20 Episode results for "Arfan"

World Week Night Quiz

Chompers

03:08 min | 1 year ago

World Week Night Quiz

"Chompers is produced by Gillet and sponsored by oral B. Welcome back. It's time for chompers your morning and night tooth brushing show. Start brushing on the top of your mouth and brush the inside outside and chewing side of each tooth three. It's world week every day this week Arfan jasmine will be talking to someone from a different part of the world. But tonight, we've got the answer to the quiz. From this morning. The question was how many languages are there in the world is it more than sixty more than six hundred or more than six thousand ready for the answer. I switched rushing to the other side of the top of your mouth and give me a drum roll by stumping your feet. The answer is more than six thousand. Now. That's right English Spanish Chinese Tagalog. Check ice landed Korean Farsi there. Just a few of the thousands of languages that people all over the world, speak and lots of people can speak more than one language if you can speak to languages, it's called being BI lingual. So what you're brushing to the bottom of your mouth and Bush the molars in the way back to if you can speak a lot of differently, which is it's called being multi lingual people who speak more than one language. Sometimes learn it from the grownups at home, sometimes they learn a new language at school, and sometimes people learn new languages when they moved to a new country. Like, if you move to France, you might wanna learn to speak French, that's the language most people speak there. That's how you say. Hello in French. It's what you're rushing to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and give your tongue brush to. It's never too late to learn a new language, but scientists think the best time to learn any language is when you're a kid. That's because kid brains are great at learning. Lots of new things like the stuff you learn at school. If you have a friend who speaks another language asked them to teach you some new words, then you can be multi-lingual too. That's a for chompers tonight come back tomorrow. And we'll learn a little French until then. Chompers is a production of Gimblett media. Jumpers is brought to you by oral B grownups with thanksgiving on the way, there's plenty to be thankful for like strong, healthy teeth and gums with dentists recommended toothbrushes and toothpastes oral B helps parents empower their kids to take care of their teeth for life. And that's something we can all be thankful for oral B. Strong teeth makes strong kits.

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Sounds Week Morning Interview (2-11-2020)

Chompers

03:19 min | 6 months ago

Sounds Week Morning Interview (2-11-2020)

"Good morning it's time for your morning and night tooth brushing show today Arfan. Jasmine is here with a special interview. jasmine take it away. Mix Start brushing on the top of your mouth on one side and make sure to get the molars all the way in the bathroom. Three a two one. It sounds week so today. We're talking to someone who knows a lot about sound. Marcus yes hi I'm Markus and I'm the audio engineer for Chompers and what is an audio engineer. Do An audio engineer is someone who works with recorded. Sounds sounds so We're talking about trumpers. I take all of the sounds that make up an episode of choppers so the switch bells and all the talking and all all the farts music and I put it all together and kind of get it ready so that when you listen to it at home it sounds the way that it does switch to the other side of the top of your mouth and don't brush too hard. What are some of the different ways that you play with? Sounds so sometimes in trumpers we want to change the way that the voices sound to sort of suggest a space so if you WANNA make it sound like somebody's in a big cave we use this effect that called weaver. It sounds like this so it sounds like my voice is going off the walls and it makes me sound like I'm GonNA K- Eh switch to the bottom of your mouth make sure you're brushing the inside outside and chewing side of each. Okay okay so you said that you take all of the heart sounds and bells and stuff. So what are those sounds called so those sounds are called sound effects and we use sound sound effects to help tell the story right so if the story that we're telling takes place at a baseball game we want to find a sound that'll put the baseball game. So maybe we take you know the sound of the ball hitting the bat and then a crowd clapping and those sounds make you feel like you're out of baseball game switch to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and give your tongue a brush rush to so marcus you make a lot of the music that we use. Why do we even use music on chompers sue US music to help bring the story to life and help you feel what the story is about? So if we're telling a story that's really happy. We might have happy music great mighty music. That's really fast and exciting. Maybe something like this and if we're telling a story about a mystery maybe we'd put spooky music helping you feel the story That's chompers today. A comeback tonight when our friend Marcus helps us make music with sounds that you hear every day until well then chompers production of Gimblett media.

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Book Club Episode 2 - Abigail Mann

The Yanis Mix Monthly

48:06 min | 2 weeks ago

Book Club Episode 2 - Abigail Mann

"You're listening to concert from the youngest mix. If you like this, check all the Yannis. Mix Dot Komando became more. Joint base is the Yanna's Mesa with an exclusive interview with Abigail Mind. Listen to the honest mix on ice. Arfan and joining us today is Abigail. Mine had Arbi. So lovely to be talking with you going. Youtube right, so You are an author. You are here for Book Club episode to how exciting a right so tell us about yourself. Okay and so I like you said the an author is still a word that sounds strange in my mouth because it's been. New a new thing for me. On, my book came out in. E book form in May and the payback is coming out in a few months time, and so, yes, who still very fresh in because this also happened in lockdown I've. been out in the real world is all very saw. It feels like a bit of a secret identity stuck at home. Authoring instead. But yeah. I've been writing now. I say properly writing. Every day and seriously full a couple of years now, and before that I was an English teacher, a secondary school up in Sheffield and before that I was the teacher Dane in London. So that's a that's to me and the. For, say an East Anglia way right. What did YOU WANNA? Be when you were younger. Did you have your heart set? On being an author, or did being teacher so of an English teacher. Sway you into that. And, I had a really fixed compete something completely different actually I had a really fixed I did I wanted to be a that that was always to be growing up so completely. Something completely different and then I. Don't know if they still do it now in school, but I did work experience in year, ten and everyone everyone did what experience and I went to a vet me surgery. I did two weeks and it completes which may off. I'm not sure why it was in particular an. ICON put my finger on. What was in particular switch me away from being of that. It was possibly the idea of having to go to university for such a long time. It being very science, savvy and science was never like my best subject school English always was so I started leaning in towards things that I was. Naturally good at and the other thing being. Really like animals. Being there is possibly the not the ideal job because animals really do not like you. They come in to the vets and they. They're terrified of the vet, so I was like This is probably not gonNA scratch that each so to speak and so I did a few different internships and things after I left university. and. Coming in English teacher sent something that came to so east switched around law I. Don't think I have thought seriously about. Coming author because I didn't know anyone who was doing that already and everyone in my family. Doing different types of jobs, but nothing that was in the creative arts I just wouldn't have a clue how you even go about doing something like that, so it's something that came later after listening to love podcast reading on books. I actually saw. The confidence to. Yeah, that's what she something. I could easily make good attempts doing. All this never. Never assure that they can successfully common. An but. was something that. was. I GONNA. Give this good to really make good attempt at at least at the end of the year I can say tried and luckily has gone the right way. Did being an English teacher help you build confidence and being an author then. Yeah definitely and I have my students to thank that I think and. I think he was my third year of being a teacher. And in my students crave writing tasks today and we'd recently had some training in school about how it was awesome, quite important that if you're setting a big task, law students that you also do at the same time rather than. I would have done. Go and make a coffee. were. The from just sit and watch everybody or make sure everyone wasn't talking actually doing the tasks as well so I'd get into fifteen minutes. I'd scribble away the front and the. With built from there and I realized I forgot how much fun it is to just write. Anything that comes into your head all right for a particular type of reason at particular prompt, and and so then I just started writing more and more and more, and then, when I told my students. I I was leaving the school. Anyway I was I was leaving because I was always going to be in my book book, and they will really enthusiastic can. They didn't think of the the barriers. For of so they were really great to. My students were reading achingly onto to do it i. think it's Nice that. You learn. By teaching. Students as well. Yeah and I think good teachers. Do. Do Not saying the is an excellent excellent teacher. Think I was okay. But. I think is one of those things where when you're teaching, and then you're learning at the same time this all. News everything on. Perhaps more. Useful way than if you would just. Getting them to do something and then spending that time we sell. Yeah! So you stop teaching and gave Selfie Gear, drought. Your Book Yet the scored the lonely for heater. The book. Yes, sure, I'm so when I like. You said I. Up Teaching I gave myself a year book it. Wasn't the book that I intended to write an I've always been obsessed with. Historical Fiction and period dramas on TV, specifically soft Victorian periods early Tori period. So I had planned this book to be, historical. Sold of magical realism. I spent. My last year teaching in my spare time planning it, and then the first couple of months after I left school I was starting to try and rights book, and it just wasn't working. I could not write. It was like waiting through. Trickle in every page was painful. It just wasn't working. So I asked if you people. What do you think is something that would be more natural for me to write. A few people suggested comedy so I I started scribbling just without any real intention, just trying to see what my name. Writing Voice was and it came out with something that was but more contemporary. It more. Funny in a first person protagonist inside their head, and you're hearing this autzen their observations on people around them and things like that. That fell a little easier, and I thought a why I'm fighting it. I'm just going to try and write create a new book, a new storyline that suits they instead and so the lonely. FAJITA came out without. and. It's about a woman who's in her mid twenties. WHO's living in London? And she's still trying to find out like what hurt. proper career is. So. She's in a flat share with a number of people and he. She doesn't really go that well. She gets every sort of. Breaks up with her boyfriend very anticlimactic way. And finds herself onerous and also still on the payroll of work, because she's doing a free APP unpaid internship, and that sees her becoming the housemate eighty three year, old women cooled Anne who she's acting as a home companion for. In exchange for free rent and free bills, and so she does that, and she moves in with this in London and not spend the rest of the Looney Fajita is. Well, let's think about her. Being like a little less lonely as time goes on, and the Anne has also got a number of an issues with isolation and things that they both share, really both character share, and so throughout the books they they work on finding mortal, fulfilling way to live their lives. Feel, good stories and Yeah I think so and Stephanie. It definitely made me made me feel good. When I was writing it I mean obviously not not all the time. I'm sure if you spoke to a few. Other officers, the everyday they write is pleasurable. Sometimes, it's really. Difficult. Pushed. But. I definitely happier writing this book than I did when I was trying to write my previous book, which was quite dark and the historical novel. So I thought if I'm spending most of my time. Doing this one thing. I should feel good and happy doing it, so that's another thing that may made my decision as to write. Home early instead of right. In historical. Yeah well it is. As you say is a comedy wedged. You get your your ideas from this. Do you base some of the stories on your own experiences or do you completely make up? An! Combination of both really and I think they first book An. APSE it was. To do with this position I am in the same age as my protagonist. And when I was speaking, told my friends on with me up and coffee and things that. They. Tell you about that is will oh. This awful posted were will friend if using this terrible relationship eastwood. Internalize vase things they into the back of your brain, so I think when I was coming up with an idea for this book disparate. Main storyline of somebody's desperately trying to make their life successful in London, but can't really afford it. And that was something that I experienced and not something that all my friends who've experienced tons of young people experience so I kind of I would say it's. Thirty percent me that. People I know and then the rest of it is either exaggerated or completely made up. With my second book I'm writing at the minute. It's sort of a step further away from that distancing myself a little more. Perhaps, it's to do with confidence and. Confident, you're writing and more confidence stepping away from your inexperienced, but definitely fest one it did who'll on days, an direct experiences a lot more, and and the idea so with doing townships. You don't get paid for because you're just desperately hoping that you're going to be added onto the payroll at some point if you were impressive enough. That is something unfortunately I experienced. Was Some of these experiences? Daren't sound very. Positive degree some positive Bor. The book is comedy. So how'd you manage to turn one of these negative situations into something that's going to make someone laugh as a really good question and I've spoken a lot to to other people. I know he right. He write comedy as well. And about how actually works and I, think it's because comedy relies on conflict and conflict obviously is the. Driving Force of every narrative really but differences to what makes it just as PA regularity than what makes it funny is. Is that conflict as sort of ridiculous? It could be all as embarrassing as it could be. Because people love laughing at other people's misfortune. Not, a nasty way the in like thank goodness I was experiencing that myself in almost like a relief so a lot of comedy. That I have in my books and. Comes from exactly that being incredibly late to a doctor's appointment. And what happens when you're rushing over to the appointment and Various things that happen there and. Calling up your boss to explain why lay and not realizing that you are an answer to the whole company, so it's taking a situation. Would otherwise be embarrassing and thinking. How could this be worse? And then that. Dwarf is. The comedy elements come from it. And then quite often is those characters can be quite funny and the way. Is Set in person reacts to something. That can be an a good. Place to work in some comedies well certain ways that they speak. The comedy I think has to rely on elements of light and dark. And something is like continuously an. Upbeat. You don't have the moments of relief in pulls. The jerks to come through so yet has to be shades of light and dark, and I think some of the best. Of the best comedy does that way it's. something. That's actually quite. Depressing is impose. A difficult difficult periods of people's lives and difficult situations, and then flipping on its head, and it's womb is the relief of being out of that situation that makes people get relief a sigh of and the stock. Laughter come from, so it's quite complicated. It's I suppose it's a bit of psychology in there as well. You know how people react to difficult scenarios. Difficult situation. Is it when when you're writing this this book? Is it a think about odd people going to laugh to this or they not gonna find it funny. Is that something that you Put in the center when you write the book? Definitely and and I try not to think about it too much. Because you're right, you do think about it and but. And this isn't necessarily a way that it works unfortunately for sometimes. The, best, the best timed to think like that and think is this actually is this relending is in the second draft in the first draft. You kind of have to just get all out. Not Think about that too much. Because you can think yourself into a corner you can see the same sentence. E thought was quite funny. Comparison for instance. Like you're describing a character in a way that is quite funny by using like an interesting metaphor or Simile, and you can read that line ten times, and you have read all the funny out with it, and then you don't have a clue whatsoever. What's funny and what's not anymore, so it's useful to do in the second round and in the first round I often think to myself. If, I was this has happened to me and I was explaining this to my friends. I've met with an having coffee thing. How would I describe it to you in the way? That was the funniest. Always trying to make them laugh, how would I phrase it? And then. I will try and put into my writing an and. oftentimes that that works and sometimes. Are. A little bit too much like it's screenplay and I'm thinking too much about very subtle facial expressions that. Communicate so well. In a novel form, and sometimes I have to strip those out because they. Just at work in the form of a novel, but they might work if it was a screenplay, but they don't novel so I have to take those out sometimes, then we'll obstruct. The more abstract Jake's hops. They often get taken out. Did. You have to test on your friends. yeah, so I sent over. The, I entered the the the novel way into a competition before it was published, I entered the lonely Fajita into A. Comedy Writing Petition. And you have to submit the I I think. It was five thousand words, so I worked really hard on that First Section I round. All of my friends and we were on a shared Google doc, so I could see he was reading anyone time, and and they were adding comments in, and I was asking him to help me out, really because I was on a bit tight deadline, and they would committee on things like I. Think a comb. It needs to go in here. But also I asked if they could write out. Which bits made them laugh, so I kept seeing these little comments saying. Appear often down the. Often down the document and that was really helpful for me tonight. It's not just not just funny in my head. Of People Finding this funny to that's must be quite relief. Yeah, definitely, 'cause I mean. Somebody said. To me, recently a will. If if if you're writing comedy that mean that you want to do, stand up like new. Absolutely don't. Because it's a complete different discipline, I felt to write something and you essentially waiting, untie for someone to laugh at jokes. He made whereas with stunned stunned up committee. Immediate feedback, which I can imagine can be really useful, but also completely terrify so I prefer to solve. E Cal the joke, and then the laughter can come much later, but I still do need to know at some point that someone has left. Stand up. Comedy is very different of course especially. Stand up comedies a bit. If someone doesn't laugh. Then you're in trouble. If people don't long, then you're gonNA look quiets weighed that standing on stage. No one's laughing in a book. It's not as direct xactly and I yeah I prefer not having. That terrifying meet defeat back an and being told in a slightly more. Sensitive Way. Instead so yeah, you're completely Ryan I. Think Stand Up Comedians have. So much guts to do what they do and base is slightly different in narrative and I. Think you can. You can get away with different things as well like you can. Stand up comedy. Perhaps they rely less on and building up scenes in terms of an environment and an atmosphere where you can do that in a book, So alo- is restrictive and some. Writing out in in an oval and building in really tense scene an. You could do that much more faculty with I issue when you are writing long-form fiction instead here. Well I think one thing comedy writers hold in common with Comedians. Is You know what makes people laugh? What makes people smile on? What gets a good reaction? I not probably quite important when writing comedy. Yeah exactly an enjoy one finds the same things funny, enough fine and. Of course you know, people have seen different sense of sense of humor, and it can also be a generational thing an. Is A lot of people? Of My age, who around and twenty five to thirty five, and they really relate to a author, the humor in the book or situations that they quite funny a some. Older readers just wouldn't get in the same way, and just you know like my parents find A. Situational comedy, a proper old school sitcoms with a on TV that have an audience in the background, the laughing, every now and again. And how did you find that? So stop very very funny, and it's just because. They grew up with us what they like and. They would try and watch something like I don't know if you've ever seen the mighty Bouche. Haven't heard of it, but that's like a Yet I said that's something that was big. When I was a teenager. The I think older. My parents were like a this is terrible I. Don't understand it, and it's not funny. So you know it's. It's so subjective, so that is something that you have to accept. I think when you write. Novels that you're intending to funny and your attention can be that, but not everyone is GonNa find it funny, and some people will find it hilarious I suppose style of comedy has to be in the person's comfort zone. If you grew up with the nuts, what you're comfortable with, that's what you're used to. Undo. These different styles is knowing your comfort zone. You won't find funny. Yeah exactly and and situations as well. You know, I think the the landscape for. Young people trying to find the way that way in the world is very different now than what it was a twenty thirty years ago, so whereas I find it quite. Situation you know my main releaser in the only Fajita? Shea is. Desperately trying to find some wet live. Because, she's a terrible flatmate and have don't want her around anymore. And her trying to find somewhere else to live with any money, even though she's she's, she's called good education. She's very very clever intelligent, and yet she still struggling, and that's a situation. I think a lot of people. In, my generation can relate to and older people will not so much because it wasn't necessarily an issue so much when they were growing up. So it's kind of like you know what you've experienced as well can feed into what you'd recognize as related. Will he yeah knocking him? I can imagine I can imagine. moving on to the title of goes on the book, the Lonely Fajita. What does that mean? And so. It's a strange one because. And when you come up with a book title, and you have to submit it to an agent fast and then you agent. Then sends out to publishers and to see you. He wants to buy it and usually. You agent will change the title of your book to suit trends into suit genre. And they often have a better idea of thought than what you would do, and then also, when it gets to a publishes added, and they will probably change it again because they have a two year in advance, knowledge of what's going to be on the shelves in for instance you know twenty, twenty, two as L. Train again and. Mind was very very unusual, because I submitted it into a comedy woman imprint prize as the learning Fajita, and that was because I had two hours left to submit my entry, and they had a box on the form submission and. How Asterix next to it to said for quiet, so I was like I didn't have a title for at once I. Still I'll just leave empty and someone will change at some point anyway, so just leave empty for now by couldn't submit it without putting something in that box. So I had a couple of hours to come up with something. So, Whoever's round my? Brother's house because I used to go invite around his. He has a dog I didn't have a dog, so I mean that was the main reason. I went on and we try to come up with title the book so I. Shocked him the first few chapters read that just trying to think of anything, and so the title comes from a sentence that an pays, and what was the first chapters is now a little bit further into the book, but it's An. Eliza my main character he's talking to a work of has about. The facts that she is now single again and one of the things that she's. Not Looking forward to the most is. Cooking her favorite foods, which is the heaters and it being having nothing sadder than construction, a Fajita on your own because Fajitas by their very nature like a communal food. Right you. You have oil balls. Ulcer and everything and you will sit around the table and you'll spoon stuff in in when you're doing that by yourself. It just sort of emphasizes how lonely you are because. There's no one around to share a communal food with you, so she's reflecting with her with her friend and stay all. There's nothing soured of in constructing the heater on your own, and so we kind of took that line. And turned into the he as to be on us. It was just a big joke because we thought. My brother nine. Well is to change anyway, and it's silly enough there. It might make the judges pause ball thirty seconds and think okay. What's this about that? And so I? Never thought it would stick, and then when ice go through the competition I can run up and then when I sent it off. and. I thought now gonNA live again. Because is weird enough to I think. Make someone stop and sometimes if you bought yourself another three seconds. Some agents they get. Thirty submissions a day. And I thought if I've not got very big chance to capture wounds attention in the INBOX. I'm just going to make my title wit, so the mix installed. Yeah, and I think that worked. And then it worked again with the with the publisher, and they managed to work with the cover the coverage scope, my main character like wrapped up in a do they like. She's a human FAJITA and. Lacks stock yeah. So hitters. Do they also my faith? I took anything I wish and it did come from a guy. That's not students as well and my partner was working in London and I was still up in field so. I was a Friday night and I was like oh I'm going to cheer myself up by making my favorite food so I made these heaters. Inside the table, o'mara and watching the violent, making these the heaters and How this is super, lonely. So I? Should attend again like you. You were mentioning earlier. Doesn't sound funny. In fact, it sounds incredibly sought. But you turn, take something dark, and you bring it into the light, and then that's where you get at committee coming through, so it's thought balance of of light and book row now. That's that's really interesting, quite an original name. But Yeah I think I'M GONNA. Be Able to. I. It was a one time thing. I'm not sure. I'm, GonNa, be able to do that again. Maybe it was the. Maybe it was the pressure. that. Come up the idea. Yeah I think you might be right there and. Deadlines are always really good for source squeezing those last bits of creativity out. All I say creativity. That's a making it sound. Is. I think more accurately would be say shit desperation. So am I saying okay. I've deadline after this. Let's get now and to be honest. It's original is unique. I think it makes you want to pick it up and see what it's all about. So yeah, are they just? Tried to. Thank you very much choose. I appreciate that. Yeah exactly that's. If you if you've peaked someone's interest and curiosity and Then maybe you'll commission to read the blurb and they want to read the blog. Maybe I'll actually think about buying it, so that was the that was the. Really. Well we're going to take a small pause again. Play a song. Break Up, and then we are going to carry on talking straight afterwards. Now spoke about this earlier I'll be going. What's your favorite song? My favorite song is Whitney Houston I wanNA dance with somebody it's. Real, it's old. It's just perfect in every way. Classic. Right then here is will keep on talking straight afterwards K.. Is the makes with an exclusive interview with Abigail Whitney. Huston with I WANNA dance with somebody, you listen to the honest mix on ICR FM today. We are joined by Abigail Man for book club episode to Heather Abigail. Hello So you are the author of the learning Fajita a comedy. Can you please give us a bit of a recap on the book for anyone who has just joined and doesn't know what it's about. and, so learning to eat is the story of an Evans. Who is a twenty six year old? Person Living in London and they are working on free internship, so they're not getting paid, and they find themselves and on the verge of homelessness when they're flat, share comes to an end. And so through desperation, and Lisa decides to become a live in home companion to an elderly woman called Anne. Who Lives in hampsted? They're free and her an Anne ordeal in similar situations of `isolation and loneliness, and then through the course of the book they. Out to live a more fulfilling life. Together. It's a comedy. And it's a committee. Yup, very funny so riled. I would like to talk about an ice award that you've achieved your runner-up in the comedy woman in print awards now. What was that about? And so the. IMPRINT PRICE! This was our last year. They, the whole idea of the awards was to try and celebrate Munich women's. Writing and they're all. There is a price. Already the PG would house. Prize is a is a comedy writing prize, but up until the comedy imprint avoid started I. Think it was twenty three out with poss- twenty five winners. And had been mailed office and. This is whistle figured doesn't quite stuck up because the majority of. Writing is written by women and is wet by women and so. It was a question of Doesn't seem to make sense so rather than just trying to keep. Piquing the interest hearts or getting the attention of the big literary establishments and community PG woodhouse prize. Just. Make our own prize instead so heading lettera. He's a comedian and author and she was in like absolutely fabulous. She done a huge amount of stand up and things she created up. The price has self an hours. Two parts of the award. One of them is full published writers, and he already books out, and then the other part of the award WHO's full unpublished writers, so you could submit. Manuscripts that you didn't have a publishable. And the prize is was a publishing deal and runners up prize which one I got. And with your mentor ship then very quickly after that I also got publishing deal, so that was. I came runner up in that and we had over very glitzy. Award Ceremony in London intact the summer of last year. I think it was. Almost exactly a year ago, actually and and that felt very strange, going to an actual awards ceremony an very. It was very very cool, very exciting I can imagine. Is that happening this year. Probably not yes, they have the yet is happening. The they've had this pushback on dates for it so. Shortlist is at the moment and and the. Actual ended. The winners. Event is in September instead of July, so they've just got their fingers crossed. I think I'm waiting for you to see what happens in. Lockdown and code, and all of that stuff. So what happens I think there will be. Would will be awarded. With our is online or in person I. Don't know, but we're all hoping for in person namely because. I mean. Office navigate to go out. So if it means an exclusive like at chip on Human Normal People craves and. Into into the public. I think everyone's looking for an excuse to do that to be honest crossed. Fingers crossed now. You say that don't really get to go out quite an isolated job. Yeah definitely and. When you're sort of. When, you're right I. Suppose it depends is isolated. You didn't have to be in isolation. I suppose I should say. Really notion lockdown. Going and writing in cafes, public spaces in and I like doing that. To first draft especially I like to be around other people, but not necessarily engaging with other people use have just A. Like a little shadow in the corner of Cafe, just quietly observing everyone around. I'm obviously since since lockdown not been able to do that so much but. Yet you on necessarily have a reason to talk to anybody. Really an issue are doing research, or you're talking with you an agent or an editor, which doesn't that doesn't really need to do that very much either. You are in your own head. End Your main companions the. Cactus you make so is quite an an isolating job in you just of eight nine ten hours a day. Well. This is just me I'm talking about. Some writers could need to write for three or four hours in the morning and then. They just very efficient whereas. I get distracted by. Basically everything, and so, what could have been done for quite often ends up taking a. So, yeah, he's he's quite isolating. AN ICING JOE. When I suppose being around other people in cafes and stuff can help in the sense that you you suitcase snapshots of all these different conversations around you and it sort of reminds you about. The people who your voice in the book for. Yeah. That's a really good point. Is. It's quite often. Little snapshots of conversations. Sometimes what way into dialogue or You might spot somebody who just picture tension for some reason on. Windows into a cafe. You start speculating about their life without their houses like. Who they meaning of leave the cafe in. So if you're stuck in a bit of wraps initial way your stories going next, it can be really useful to to be around the people in perhaps not talking to the MS even better because then it just allows you imagination to go wild and imagine all sorts about. It's probably incredibly unfair. That is very useful for that reason. Yeah, what's? What are the things you get to do? After the books out to the world, people can read it, and it's published. Not what the things you do then. Perhaps perhaps my experience is not typical and everyone I. Think he had a book out in the last few months. Again is probably not in. Two eight new many like an, but when my but came out in May. Of Asli I knew I had known for wild. It was gonNA. Be Coming out in lockdown and in May we were in like full lockdown button, hardcore lockdown, and so I shifted my idea of an event online so I had. A instagram live launch party where my editor popped up to talk to me and had a Nejra who founded the quick prize popped up and then a few other. Lovely book bloggers who'd been re supportive, we spoke and and I also did of a big zoom party with some friends and family, and we all make heaters. On zoomed together an eight and If he feeds. Zoom Party. It was very strange. had. Ten people in different kitchens are on the country's making the same time, so that was quite. Appropriate, isn't it yeah, I, think. You can't throw the WED, Fajita ensure teisal, and then not follow through with that, and so that was good fun, and and then off the day after that I did an instagram takeover. My publishes feed again. Little stuff that was. Done at high in an enriching need, the plan was to. Go around little locations that pop in Blanquita so I was going to go to. Ditch at my main character. Eliza works and I was GonNa go to help. Students Walk Around Hampstead and visit different locations there and explain. Bits on in on instagram. Feed I'm being to do. So it was all, yeah, we appropriate full. For the climate, and then hopefully, when the payback comes out in a few months, and can be going round bookshops around the country so hopefully things of fanny box normal point I'll still get to to do that. That he is very strange. I think the? Most nervous. I I was the put being ill was. Actually came out so the early reviews that were coming in and. You're speculating about it's going to be like after it's out in the world, and then after that I just chilled out of it based on a bit less. Neurotic about the whole thing in just thought. Okay, that's definitely I definitely have managed to get the book out this. This is not be unpublished now. I think up until that point. There's always a little bit new head thinks. Is A bit. Everything's a bit too good to be true and. It's going to be snatched away at some point, but when it then he's out, is post publication date? You can just. Chill out a open in an enjoy it whereas before I was maybe nervous afterwards mainly enjoyed it. That's nice. It does seem to have good reviews. Yes. It's. Very obsessed with looking at reviews and everyone quite literally, everybody was like. She's probably just not read them. And I thought I know everyone is saying to me but I feel like I should read them, and which was. Not Apple. Because you always look for. The reviews confirm. Your worst fears and I think think that's the same with any sort of creative job or anything where people bounce to Hamas subjective opinion on it. You always look for things that confirmed the reasons why you'll batting broth than reasons while you're good at it so. That took a few weeks. I would say if being like. Soap listening to. Voice, in your head, that says. He could never do it in the first place which I think, everybody has to an extent and just focusing on. The really nice. The good ones of which the majority are A. Really Really Nice breeze. Focusing on the bits that they relate pete readers relate to. And the bits that make them laugh, and even some people have like identifies favorite quotes. There's in the book and that's really cool to read. See which parts people really resonate with, and that's that. Again is perhaps it's to do with publication thing as well. It shifted from being point of worry to now when I look at reviews. A point of pride now rather than a point of worry say that's been a good thing for me to solve. Shift mental shift. Perhaps they'll always be people who. People as you say, who don't enjoy it. Oh! Yes, because it's as you say, it's every. Every person finds the same things funny, so it's absolutely. Normal that people aren't going to find it as funny as they thought it was gonna be. But in some people are yeah, know there's always it's always people. I mean I of some committees that I. Absolutely love! Books as well I. Absolutely do the Comedy Series Governors, daisy and I have met people who had like I just really couldn't get into it, and I think what planet you ever understand how you call funny, but as is the case with everything. But yet it has, it has gone down. It has gone down really well. It's always. Time and you get rubies vet. Yeah I. Think this is, it's been. Largely. Positive, which is always good, I'm glad to hear it. So you have the experience. eaten coup yourself inexperienced author now. Title. Are you working on an expert? Yes. In fact, we could even call this interview. Procrastinations from the exact same thing I should be doing. And I am working on him. My second novel now, and it's in the structural edit phase which is. The worst phase because you in the whole thing out. And then you have to basically fix it and make it make sense by shifting chapters around revising certain bits. Making sure that all your plotlines sends so this is like. Having all the bits of the jigsaw puzzle only table and you've got to make little bits fit together. That's that's the current stage. The the in with my second, my second book, which is also another comedy, but this one is. Set up in Scottish Thailand's on them, instead of in a tech startup in London, so properly couldn't be more different intensification. Not Be quite interesting then. Is it. Out Outside your comfort zone. On I wouldn't say I grew. I grew up. Spending my his own Afam. In Harrison in Scotland and then went on a research trip just before lockdown up to the Shannon's, so I got that in just before just before the pandemic it, and so that was useful and. He's been really really nice. Being stuck. In London lockdown, but being able to write about a foam in this goes shines. Escapism muchly most of them. What would it forward to it? I don't know. When do you think it would be ready to go? How long did it take you to fully prepare them early FAJITA? and. I started in September of Eighteen, and I finished it in March of two thousand and nineteen, so that was about six months. And that was quite quick, but I was working on every day of the week. Now I'M GONNA, get to write three or four days a week, so it has taken me a year to right this second one. which makes sense I, suppose because it's. Yet twice the time that it took me to write the lenny. Feta, and this one is a little bit more complicated. In terms of which I think is is taken a little bit more time as well so we've all the edits and everything. I think it'll be will have been about seven months writing the first draft and then another. By months of edits before it is then ready exciting. And that will be much of next year. Yeah, awesome! We'll have to look out for it. So where can we by the lonely heater? So, learn if he is out in E-book at movement and that's. Kindle through Amazon. Kobo all apple boxes. It's all over the place their. Payback comes out in January of next year. I'm Anne garrels obese? Unusual of what stance website all affair retailers, and hopefully some lovely independent bookshops as well, and it also should be an audio book coming out. In the next month or so I think again. We're GONNA record that and then we went into lockdown, so we'll be recording studios. Shut Down, say we've just been able to recoup Jaber now. Be Out in the next month will say okay. Evoke is out audiobook coming and pay back also. and not as the learning. Back in January GEICO last lonely, Fajita, by Abigail Mine, and what's your social media if we want to find out more? Yes, so I do love instagram so on instagram ion at Abigail. Non with two N.'s and saying on twitter at Yale man with two from Tosca. We're GONNA. End It there. We're running out of time. And it's been fantastic speaking today. Yeah, thank you so much for having me are very honest to be to be hit talking to you. Know. It was a pleasure that was book club episode to with Abigail, mind on the mix. Thank you very much. See. I. This is the Janas mate was an exclusive interview with Abigail Mind. You've been listening to consent from the Yannis Mix on Dimond for more head to the Yannis. Mic Stop Code Can. You later.

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Lena Dunham

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

2:04:00 hr | 1 year ago

Lena Dunham

"Hello. Hello. Hello are welcomed. Armchair expert. I'm your host. Mr. Dax gonna have great episode today. Barry, powerful woman. Beautiful woman. Smart tell Jin dedica- woman created a show called girls. Love girls. I'm here to Wanaka you here. You're one of the girls. I love. Yeah. Well, now, I'm gonna now I'm gonna break out. So I wanna be sincere about Lena. Okay. So you did it good. Okay. Not to my liking. But I did it. Now, let me get into the second thing. I wanted to get into k which was. Be outta we because now we're forty eight hours away. Could you have done him doing that hollowing say say happy Halloween? Oh, yeah. That's good Drake are trae smell, mafia eight. Drako trae smell my fake. Give me something. Good to eight as knickers bars, Twix bars. A luck nougat a like a baby a baby out baby Graham, what is it monitor grand honored? Ryan yet. A love Honda grain. Also, Brit baby Ruth also looked Kayla. Love gala and Turk Trie smell fate. It's nice to have you here from you something that Stacy. Orlina? She deserves a better intro than being than me having to do a character. And then new a Halloween. Greetings, third billing too. She has an hour. She has a long time to be on this episode. Matthew can be on for a few minutes us, right? That's right. Thank you. Thank you so much Mr. Dax, so Lena Dunham is here today, which is we felt like a very big get time. Yeah. That wing. We were elated when she said, yes, she was so fun in person. Boy, we could not even get into the studio because we started chatting outside when she arrived in the driveway and that could turn into its own three hour conversation. So personable, very personable. Very smart. Very funny. She's fantastic. You know, she created and starred and directed girls on HBO. She has a new show her new show camping his out. Yes. And it stars. Mr. McKenna high. Now, it doesn't it's as may in Leinna and were trialling around though. This is the part that you probably wouldn't want to happen. Yeah. Wouldn't want me all sin formation who would Moulmein star on their show camping? Well, that's true. He'd be great for minute. Just a great show wanted to start it. Well us because I'm in the show camping alongside Lena Dunham her for me to look miserable. On for a long time. 'cause I gotta put my tongue in a weird spot. Is that what it is? Can you describe what physically album that so disturbing? Had to put your finger on it. But trigger on took a trait which on a part of it has to do with your eye contact. Yeah. It's really intense severe now shop window. What is this intro? I'm sorry. All right. Lena Dunham clean a- Donham. We love her. She delivered. Please enjoy Lena Dunham. We are supported with kindness and love by squarespace. If you listen to this show. You know that we built our website armchair expert pod dot com by we. I mean wabi wa built it on squarespace. Monica doesn't our website get your motor running. That's brad. But I do think it's the best website on earth in the business and the cool thing about square spaces. There's beautiful templates that are created by world class designers. They make it so easy to build your own website. You could show. Oh, case, your work blog or published content sell products and services of all kinds of we won't even ask what services you're providing promote your physical or online business announcing upcoming event or special project in more. It's incredibly easy. It's a world class website that can be designed at squarespace dot com. Head to squarespace dot com slash Dax for a free trial. And when you're ready to launch us the offer code Dax to save ten percent off your first purchase of a website. Or no main that squarespacEcom Dax enter code day x. So happy. I'm so happy looking. Doorless bathroom. I don't believe we've met in real life. I've seen you out events. Okay. Never engaged. We've never engaged in as I see. You know, how this happens we both meet famous people. Yup. In generally, they fall into one of two categories where they're more attractive in real life or they're less attractive in real life in looking at your face. I'm overwhelmed with how cute it is. Not that. I didn't think your onscreen presence wasn't. But I'm really enjoying this real life version of Japanese so much because I mean firstly I pulled up, and I was like, oh when you came out in your overall like this it down to his do Coty, motorcycles, this is a gentleman with an enormous amount of swagger. We knew you were a moment slack here from Celtics on, but that means a lot to me actually because I don't think a ton about the looks thing. Like, I've been going to a bit of a I've been going to a bit of a phase where I've been feeling old down on my son. I texted my best friend Scotty the other night and told her that I couldn't leave the house because I was I said, I'm I'm I look like a piece of dough. Okay. Sure. And she had a great answer. She was like she was like, you know, what she's very pregnant. She's a better excuse to feel like a piece of dough. Which is like she was like, I'm a piece of dough right now. And I'm a piece of piece of dough next. But probably I've been not a piece of dough before and I won't be one in two years. But right now, I'm just kind of owning it. And so since let that dole bake in the sun, one nice, that's nice because you know, what's what's tricky is. It's tempting many things can be happening simultaneously. So you can be embracing who you are. Right. And learn. The love that person. And and that's healthy and wonderful, and we should all spire to do that. And then yet, you're also just an animal or a human being in. You wanna look your best whatever the the the the zone of that is that you've come to like except about yourself. You kind of want wanna be hitting the top of that zone or at least. I of course. Yeah. It's especially, you know, our line of work you cannot help. But think about your looks. No. And you can't help. But think about it, and you also can't help. But think like I have this thought sometimes some like, okay? So I came into this job being you know, I don't have. I'm not I'm not the archetypal like actress lady, but people have accepted that I look a certain way. But then I'm like if I go even more that way, like as you get older, sometimes you gain five or seven or ten pounds or your Happel ISM changes or you go or you go on steroids for a little bit. Or whatever happens not from. Muscle-building Ryan vanish, and they don't take the muscle building kind nor do I. But I want to so bad. And it is occurred to me my my fantasy was always. Well, maybe I'll end up in one of those super hero movies, and I'll have an excuse to do it for like six months as an experiment and just how it feels like walk around lies a big log like just to experience that feeling are you interested in the also like the fact that when you took steroids you'd be like speedy out of your mind and convinced your God will that is the part that is potentially. I can't do it. Yes. I have had friends who've done steroids, and there's many different kinds in some of them. Don't give you that. And then some of them. Yes, I've had friends is like you you couldn't do this. I feel like I've done one line of coke all day long. Yeah. Hundred percents. So that's a deal breaker for me fate. Yes. It would be a deal breaker for me too. But it's eight some, but when I take the stories from LeMay because I have an autoimmune illness. Sometimes do you do you have? Sorry, attic arthritis him. So so. To get two Horning. Very sexy disease psoriatic arthritis. I don't wanna flip you out. But I have a combination of undifferentiated mixed connective tissue disorder and alert. Dan, low syndromes side of endometriosis Ayler, Dan, lows syndrome is a hard to diagnose and fairly rare genetic mutation few different varieties of it shadows. Dr Howard Levy at at Johns Hopkins to help you find out about this. It basically means you don't have enough collagen in your connective tissue. And so that's the version. I have I don't have the vascular version, and so it means like some of the symptoms would be like increased flexibility, but also like deal increased flexibility, and mobility, but decreased strength and joint pain. And there's also other weird stuff like sensitivity to cold. And he didn't are you. Inordinately flexible. I'm gonna show you something they'll tell the viewers at home. Okay. I'm. Oh my goodness. So what Lena has done is basically full ded up her thumb like a wallet. And put it behind her hand on the top of her hand on the palm side. I can't even. Okay. So my arthritis targets there. Yeah. Can't even get it behind that finger there. That's maxed out. What do you do? I'm so how long have you had it? And what do you do to take care of it? So what's interesting is I've had it for going on nine years. But for four or five of those years, I had no idea. It was that. I just thought oh my feet are swelled up that must be motorcycle injury related. And then I was like, oh, I need knee surgery. All these things were happening that felt like injuries. I guess and also the inflammation from arthritis will settle in injuries previous injuries. So I go this makes sense this knee hurts, I got whatever. And then I had a dermatologist who knew I was kind of kept going all these different joint doctors. And he said, you know, I think he might have sorry added arthritis which will rheumatologist he looked at me for. Five seconds looked at my fingernails. He's like you have at all run test. But I can tell you right now, you have it. And then that then I started a different course of treatment. But I'm curious if you think like I do in that I think we're all allergic in this is kind of a lefty thing too. Yeah. But I think in general we eat so many different kinds of foods and met were all allergic to different foods. We don't know where logic to and that in the symptom can be sorry at occur threat. Is it can be your condition? It can be all these different autoimmune conditions. I really believe that there is some reason I carry around guilt and shame is because yes, I'm sick. I also really serious endometriosis head to get hysterectomy last year. Like, I've been through the wringer, health wise. And so I'm like, yeah, I'm sick. That's a thing that just happens to somebody's doesn't happen to others. But I am convinced that I if I were to be just like a slightly more. I want to be a personal slightly more like a willpower and force of energy that like I would be I would feel maybe like forty seven percent better. And so every time I crawl into bed. I have like a haze a blanket of guilt. Sure, the apps me me too. And just in general are you prone to guilt? I'm like, I it's my tastiest addiction is feeling shitty. About myself. I feel shitty about myself. I feel I literally the only time I feel relief in life is when I get for the three seconds after I get attacks from someone. That's like, it's okay. Don't worry about it. And it's like that feeling of someone being like or like, no, no, you didn't do anything wrong or please. Thank you so much for checking in, but it's not an issue. Yes. In. This condition. Lied to you creating elaborate theories, and why people are upset at you or. Yes. But what said should? Yes. One hundred percent, but what sort of become complicated in my life. Is that I was always incredibly guilty and obsessed with the idea of the different people had issues with me and didn't like me. But now that I'm a public person lots of people, I don't know have issues with me and don't like me. Yeah. And some of it for things that I totally new would be provocative in strange. So now I have to deal with the duality. And also the part of it that is like a total self-fulfilling prophecy and created by me, and that's information. None of us really wants about herself. Yes. I do think at all. Like there are many times where I think like, oh, this job of mine has been this crazy blessing. It's almost like immersion therapy, right? Where if like, you're a germaphobe they've making jump in a dumpster, whatever. So I have a lot of codependency things in this job has. Is forced me? You can't have this job. And not learn to set boundaries or you'll die. Andrea percent. When you realize no one else, actually cares. What happens to you girl on such told me a story? She was like twenty two and we were barefoot onset, and it was getting hot. And she said. The last movie I was on. I was barefoot, and it was in a really dirty dangerous place. They just coated the bottoms of my feet with superglue. It was like he did what those those like if you don't say no coat the fucking vase super glow. Absolutely. And then also then in in public. So the way I had to confront this whole thing was like if I'm with my kids, and I'm at the airport. I'm not very friendly. I don't want to interact with people because I don't that's their time. And I feel bad that they have to share me with other people, whatever. So in general, I'm pretty direct before out is a family dislike. Hey, this is our time nice to meet you. But I gotta keep it moving and many times people walk away, and they're like that guy's a fucking asshole. And I've had to just get comfortable with the notion that you know, what there are going to be a lot of people on this planet think you're an asshole. But I have to prioritize my family, my friends, and I also have to remind myself in those moments where I feel shitty. Do any of my friends think I'm a fuck and hassle is anyone that really knows me think I'm a fucking asshole. And I I don't think so so. So, but that's your nose. You. I've been hearing about you for years like, you know, back when when seventy two percent of gnome data Shepard we had a friend in common, Leslie Arfan, Leslie are fan s she's the greatest, and so she would talk about you. And like, I couldn't believe that. There was a famous person who was so nice. And it's like she'd always be like, oh, yeah. I was stressed. So I called Dax you called dad's like I didn't think that I figured you were like on a yacht somewhere with like Giselle bunging sitting on your face. No sure wish I had had that experience prior to shutting it all down eleven that could get me through some lonely nights. And that's I thought it was really cool. I don't think any of your friends think you're an asshole maybe one. But I haven't met them. Sure. Sure. Go ahead on the day. Sometimes Monica thinks I'm an asshole. But she comes back pretty quickly and a lot see a lot of sides. That's true. All assholes all the facets. Yeah. Though. That's also true back to Leslie really quick. Do you know how we met? You know, that story is it at the maritime hotel, can you detail it for me, though? Yes. It's one of my favorite ways to have met someone. So I was there in New York shooting baby, mama. So I was at that hotel guests six weeks. You're really good. Maybe mama. Thank you so much. I that's work. You're proud of o- hundred percent. But you know, it's great about that is like occasionally, you do something for entirely the right reason. Which was I just wanted to be around Tina name Amy being funny. That's it. I zero aspirations for myself in that movie. I was just. Only got gotta get to go watch those to do their thing. They're gonna write me a check on Friday, mazing amazing. So I'm staying at the maritime hotel and every morning I liked to drink coffee. So I got to order coffee from room service, but there's no room service at the maritime hotel. You have to call the operator and the operator, I guess relays. The message to the kitchen I had at this point talk to Leslie Arfan on the phone probably forty two times. And so one morning morning every morning, and I call up, and I go, hey, so I've loved the by the way, I just want to add I think this is complete horsh it that you have to bright down my order and relay it they should just let me give it to them. So you don't have to deal with this. And she goes, oh, well, that's just the tip of the horse shit iceberg of what's going on down here. And I go, oh what's going on down there? She goes. Well, first of all I am in a basement. Do you know when you talk to me, I'm in a basement, I'm like, oh my God. They've got you in a basement. So we start talking for probably twenty minutes. Like, I'm his laying in bed talking with this. Gale a find her super interesting. All funny. He's so funny. She goes. A listen. I want to take my cigarette break. So I'm gonna go out front, and I go great. I'll meet you down there. So I get on my clothes. I meet her on the sidewalk we talk for another thirty minutes. We discover we're both in the in a similar program, which is now ship immediately bonding, and then she goes, oh, I I wrote this book, and I'm like, oh, wow. You've written a book. I want wanna read it. So she gets me a copy of dear diary, I read it so fast. I love it. Incredible. A give it to Amy Poehler onset. You'll love this book. Well, haulers are fans favorite favorite favorite. Yes. Favorite favorite? And then so polar reads, it loves it writes, her a little note, I think give it to our fen this develops into this friendship or she ended up coming out to LA and was taking manager means, and I kinda was like to think somewhat of a mentor to her because I remember she felt very guy didn't even state your house at some point maybe on your couch for a night. The so possible I helped her get more like she didn't know how to get a car. I helped. Her car, she attacks you got a car amounted one night, and I had to drive her to go get her car something grey zone ice. There's something about her. I just really was rooting for so much, but in then you played a really huge role in her life. And let's talk about this because this goes directly into girls, which is didn't you? Discover her first writing job was on girls. It didn't you discover her through Twitter. Yeah. I thought she was so funny on Twitter. I thought she was so smart and interesting and weird. And like she gives us like a really negative review to a snack food. Like, it was just like the person. You're like, oh, yeah. No. I wanna be watching to you this person immediate Mente. And so when we were trying to come up with writers for the show, she and I had been DM ING as the kids say shar and asked her to meet me at aroma coffee on how Ston street why we can't know. I really was obsessed for a summer. There was a summer where like my major vice was like eating these really insane cheese sandwiches at aroma coffee, like eight or nine and a day sitting in. Watching him pass. That sounds heavenly to me kinda was great like I would feel pretty bad about myself at the end of the day. But well, it was happening. I was like I'm an adult and part of being an adult is you need as many cheese sandwiches. You want in a one twenty four hour period. So Leslie kind of came to my office in aroma. And we chatted which clubhouse may see cheese sandwich clubhouse, and we chatted and I just loved her. And we've had some of the great experiences of life together and something I love about our friendship is that she wrote on the first two seasons of the show. She went off to do other things and my life, and I bet you can relate to this. As it got really big while it's of career opportunities. Whatever it also got released small like, I my personal life as the world expanded. I made my personally for lead tiny. I was very scared, and I also didn't create a lot of space. My day was divided into like working or like lying with a pillow on my face. I didn't understand another mode. So looking back I can recognize that in probably a lot of people who were really important to my life. I forgot to include. And I forgot to check in on them in so Leslie, and I had a long period where you know, we would check in with each other. But we didn't really spend time together in that time. She got married I was lucky enough to be at her wedding. And oh, so then I would have seen you. There. I saw you at her wedding. Right. Awesome wedding that coolest wedding, rusty's speech. I left by the way. Oh, yeah. Check in with your therapist all entertain the listeners just want you guys to know that I'm just gonna let Dr John know what's going on. Hi, found free therapy on armchair expert. So so I don't have to. Take a pass today to go rainy, literally everyone in my life is like Sosa. I've been working on this not to brag I've been working on a Quinter in movie. But I wanted to know we can get if you're allowed to say that you say because there was a hop. Razzi? Picture of me showing Brad Pitt my underwear. So my mom was horrified. But she was she wasn't happy for you. My mom thinks I'm really funny, but she's in a private way, but she wishes that there was less like she wishes that I like kept it fun at Christmas. But that there was like a little less like a public sheriff aspect to it. My mom's like, Alexa. She's an artist. But she's like a nice Jewish girl from Long Island who thinks like underwear should be kept to the person who's wearing them. Does. She think it's indulgent of you hundred percent. Yeah. She would say a lot to me when I was growing up like a lot of like, well, at least you think you're funny thing like, my mom. Or she'll savings every time. She's been interviewed. She's like, I always thought Lena was actually I, you know, I just always thought she was trying all kinds of things and they didn't work. But if other people think he's funny. That's great. Okay. But would she can't or maybe what she's not realizing is you're just doing your thing at the Christmas party? But there are just people around taking pictures of you're not asking for it to be public. No, I do other things that are for sure. Asking to be public. But I did not know when I showed Brad Pitt my under that that was was that in a scene or just real life real life. Oh, that's great. But it was that he asked what a cute doll was. And I happen to have one tattooed on my side. So I thought I'm to you know, I've got the 'lustration reunion. My body. You could spend the next ten minutes describing an orally or just let his eyes gaze upon my thigh. Yeah. And that's just I bet he enjoyed that. You know, what I wanna believe like he probably doesn't have that many people just going like sure, you whatever it's. Yeah. I'll show you my underwear life. I figure there's not a lot of just like good. Stidham New England. Why birth New England's not showing him their underwear? So like this this circles beautifully back, which is I I think people underestimate how isolating success is in. It's so counterintuitive, but I have friends that are, you know, infinitely more successful than myself. And I've seen it. It just gets very isolating unless you you got a really a fight against it and have a game plan. It's just going to naturally happen. So let's talk about just the experience of I guess, maybe at being an outsider looking in feeling like, you're an outcast in a misfit, and that being kind of your persona you like rock, right? Yeah. I love punk rock in the U. We liked Leslie 'cause she's punk rock. Right. Lesley's definition of punk rock. Leslie is the most punk rock person. I've ever met like, yeah. And she's so punk rock that when she does mean, it's nerdy. She just like owns it. And makes it Blake. I were we drove around L A. We were both new to L A. Just like drive around and get a hotdog and sing along to the rent soundtrack. Yeah. Which I if I did it in high school. I'd want to shoot myself in the face, you're Leslie made it seem cool to do it. Right. Or like lessee be like, yeah. Where your pajamas to this premier like who gives a shit? Like, right. Also, what was cool about Leslie? She's doing all that. And she's sober like I like someone who's a lunatic. I feel that way. Which is like it doesn't take drugs to make me a lunatic. Like, right. The only reason I ever took drugs was to be less of alone attack. But it's interesting when you have a little bit of an identity where you feel like I'm an outsider misfit or I'm punk rock or all these things. And then you get kind of accepted by the popular people. It can be a weird transition. Right. You can kind of either a feel fraudulent or be distrust, the people who are now accepting new. There's like all these insecurities that arise right? All of it. And also I used to have a feeling like I don't think what I do is for everyone. Like, I don't think my story is for everyone. I don't think. My experiences for everyone. So sometimes I'd be having these people express appreciation of what I did or like act as though they related to me. And I would have thought which is probably not very generous for. I'd be like you can't possibly get it, which means that we're having a false interaction, which means entire thing is bullshit. And like, then you turn into that. Like eighth grade kid who's like don't like green day anymore because everyone likes green day. Yes. But I felt that way about myself myself was green day in a we have this expression called them. We also from terminal uniqueness. It's one of my favorite expansions think Rizova can unique at work favored expression, my favorite thing that my mom knows is like all tell her something that my fair piss told me, and she'll love it. And then a week later. I'll figure out that she's using it one hundred percent wrong. Unlike some more moral theories about her sounds like I told her the expression terminal unique this, I think Leslie told it to me and I loved it. And I was like, you know, dad's offers from a real case of terminal uniqueness. And then later she's like I was saying about an. I also suffer from terminal uniqueness just being so unique that your entire life. No one gets set. You was not in on the joke. Now, he also wants that to me. This is a favourite. My therapist is big into accountability. Let's accountability. It means everyone has to be accountable to me. This is right. This is there's a couple little clues of just maybe some light narcissism is in the mix. They're just little. No, we're not going to label her that. But. Administered about my mom. She's like my Piero. But like, I think as she's gotten older, she's she would tell you this. She's going to be sixty nine tomorrow. Okay. And sexy sixty nine but she looks good. And something about almost as she's gotten older her capacity to like endure anyone else's bullshit. She's just a steamroller steaming through the world, and she's just like, especially because she's a female artists, and she like really duked it out in the seventies. And eighties to do what? She does. Yes. Now. She's just kind of settled into like eccentric glamour puss with a jewel on her shoe. And it's like a really it really works for her. Oh, that's great. I earned the right to just kind of one hundred percent the vibe, can I just say that this is an incredibly soothing room. And that like, my friend told me recently that if you attuned to another person for twenty minutes that it can have the same effect as like taking down or like, your body your nervous system, your CNS, your central nervous system, just like taps into a. A new mode, and I really feel like I came in here. A little jangled looking at my week, not taking it moment by moment. But taking it day by day in stressed out way. And you have just like landed the plane. Oh, wonderful. That's fantastic. Thank you for that. No one will go back to. So you you directed a movie tiny furniture, and that's what opened up the door for girls. Yep. And you start getting recognized in getting attention. And it's just very tricky to navigate. Yeah. I was twenty five I had just turned twenty five when we start shooting the first season. I turned twenty six exactly a month after girls came out. But I was a young twenty six I lived with my parents still I'd never had a real boyfriend. Like, I got my first real boyfriend that year before that I'd just sort of like dated people, but I'd never had like a true relationship partnership. I was extremely suspicious of that person. Was that part of any of this? I had aspects of maturity, but I was like pretty stunted like fearful little person when I. Finally, met my long term boyfriend, Jack still a close friend of mine we broke up last year. And it was just like a fun ball of neuroses and talent enjoy but he was in a similar moment. His band had like the number one hit in America. So it was like that's all we are young that you couldn't escape for an entire summer. And now never again. And so we were sort of like in a similar mode. And so we kind of just grabbed each other like liferafts style and went for it. Yeah. So I was really like a I wasn't like a worldly twenty six who. I was like a freaked out twenty six right? Yeah. It was a lot. And you don't wanna be the presumes like ooh, getting famous was so scary. But I was I had a lot of trauma that I had it worked through. I was a super stressed out. I had like a serious, physical illness. That hasn't been diagnosed yet. So it wasn't like exactly prime. It wasn't like she's got a good physical fitness regime. She gets great amounts of sleep ready to go like rose like this is a person who could be knocked over by the wind at any moment. And I had this weird. And again, this is up thousand percent projection Lavaux in look, I'm trapped in my own experience. Which is usually said, I saw you on girls. And I immediately had the same reaction. I think many people had which was like I'm so into the fact that she's this confident getting bare naked all the time. And it's so refreshing in. It's definitely I've not seen. It minimally was only that like oh shit. It's rare that I don't I see something news. So you already I'm already excited and titillated by the whole thing because I've not seen it. But then the projector in me, I had this kind of theory about it. And I'm just curious if it's at all true at love to hear. Okay. So when I was in junior high and high school, and I fell like we'll fuck I can't do the feathered hairstyle that everyone's doing, and I'm not pulling off the look with those jeans in that thing, I feel like I can't compete in that. And that's why punk rock appealed to me. So I was like, you know, what fuck that. I'm having a mohawk. I can't do that hairstyle with love to. But I have colleagues, and I can't do the side part and all the stuff. So I feel so insecure trying to do this thing I don't seem to be succeeding that than I I'm going to yell. Fuck you I'm taking myself out of this game. This is my declaration that I don't care about your judgment. Of course, I did a lot. But it was my way of going. Fuck you. I'm not playing your game. So you can judge meal you want. But then ironically, those looks worked for me and close I chose worked for me. And I think people around me saw it as like, oh that kids so brave. He's like he's wearing size fifty two pants and a four x champion sweatshirt and his dreadlocks. He he's so confident, but we really it was a reaction to going like, I don't feel like I can do the cookie cutter version. So I'm going to reject it. And I just wondered was your thing just going like, I feel judged by you. So I'm going to out do you one hundred percent? My thing was always like I'm gonna make it. I'm gonna hit the punchline before you, can you know, when we have those experiences inform. Years of not being seen the way we want to be seen like a big memory of mine is like, you know, in the summer before you start school. You like you're like, I'm remaking my identity this summer, and I'm so I would think about my first day of school outfit. Every minute of every day. I would fantasize it. I would talk about if to my therapist, my mom, and I would game it out. She was great at doing that. With means. My mom is like a real Queen of like finding like like I'd be like, listen, I can't go back to school without Kate Spade. Bag and she'd be like, well, we can't afford that. But I'm gonna figure it out. And we're gonna like my mom was a person like found a tomah Gottschee somewhere on the day. No one could tell g she's just a Queen. So I remember clueless had just come out and I was obsessed with clueless. And so my mom was like civic character share. Okay. The whole the whole thing was credible. And I was at of the asleep. But I wanted to share we all wanted to share, and none of us were share. And none of those are one year apart, by the way is gonna sit he'll thirty one love thirty two killing it. Yeah. Six eighty seven. Love. Thank you so much for. Yeah. It's so we were in the same moment where clueless happen a huge deal. So my mom was like we found a mini backpack. Got the sketchers that had a he'll. We saw skirt you get her pigtails. And then I'm like the first day of you know, you have your real backpack. And then the mini backpack is a fashion thing. And I was like I'm going back to school in. Everyone's gonna fucking flip out. I'm certainly going to be super popular 'cause I'm gonna end then I got back to school literally somehow no one had seen clueless yet. And the first thing they did is they were like, we're not doing classes morning like to like bond all the fourth graders were doing dodgeball Anza. Suddenly, I'm like in dodgeball in my high heeled sneakers and my mini backpack. And I just remember feeling of like painting myself to the wall as tight as you could possibly fucking go to avoid the ball. And just being like, this is hell life is held at is so tied. It's so tough. If he is asked again, a Allen dot while. But like for me that was a thing of trying and expectations versus the outcome. That's a big, and those are my favorite kinds of characters to write are people whose perception of themselves and the world's perception themselves. Crazy gap like those and those are those fun characters to play. Yeah. A golf exists between the perceived self and the present himself one hundred percent, it's a joy and employer. Tune for four armchair. There. We are supported by me young as we are supported, my Mia knees. That's a new take on the ma'am Unum. These names on they never asked me to write. And I did anyway. And you give a little twist Monica. Yeah. Are saw a spring in your step last week? I said what's going on? Why are you in such a good mood? 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And I understand that you in Jemima had this. Did you change your life? One hundred percent because she thought I was cool, and I wasn't cool and Jemima was cool dramatic Oklahoma's right shocking. Like, she has her own intense pain and challenges as she would tell you an issue would tell the world, but like she was just a personal link. If she wore like a giant t shirt from the Miami airport. So then Lee everyone wanted a giant t shirt on the Miami airport like she's just she didn't follow any trend or any. She never had a thing that looked like another person staying like she was so fucking cool on when she got I knew who she was we had met and then she switched schools to my school. She was a ninth grader I was in eighth grader or not that usual for a high school or to talk to a middle schooler and one day. Was like sitting on the stairs. And she was like come here. And like I remember the feeling of her like patting the stairs by her meeting. I'm allowed to sit here. And then it was just like it was on. And it took me time to realize that like she wasn't about to play a prank on like Dumbo pig's blood over your head at the dance. But she's end living. That's amazing mentors. Like, she literally remembers the name like I remember everyone went to high school with. I remember how they looked at me. I remember when I game the whole thing out Jemima literally can't look if I there we had the exact same school experience. If I say to her like, Becky robes. Yeah. She would never have no clue she hasn't remember single fucking person from our high school. She's remember people she made out with they probably have very little power over her. She somehow had this crazy compass right or like two months of school year like the most miserable days for me were the days that insane BART's her psych. Her life was so fucking. He wants called me. And was like I remember I was my like landline rang, and it was on. She was like if we're going to Saint parts if you get a ticket. We not gonna have to pay for anything and Gwen to my parents. And I was like something amazing happened if we can get a ticket to save my parents you've school tomorrow, we're not buying you fucking ticket to Saint farts. Are you in your what on earth was? This was a two year old is allowed to buy a ticket to Saint Barbara hang out with Russian oligarchs pop in like February. On a school day. But Jemima win. Yeah. Jim I always somewhere. She was always like choose like, she's like a character include this. I wish share she's a full Sherry. I mean, it's like she's a share. She's eighty Cedric. She's all the things also the weirdest detail about your mind. She's always early. Oh, interesting donor intuitive. I'm like an anxious guilty like the studios person who's late to everything and Jemima's like a person who like seems not to give a shit, and it was like never missed an appointment in her life. She's always surpr-. She's always swerving is Aaron weekly still your best friend. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's coming this weekend with his kid, and we're going to hardy. That's so nice. You see a punk? Yeah. We were. We were punks. He was one of the toughest kids in all detroi-, sweetest guy nicest smile, also could not guys out who messed with us. It was I it was I felt very safe. We both have very fucked up childhoods, Wayne and have males around us. We snuggled is kids. My mom thought we were gave for a while. Like we were each other's mail presence were Ye kind of Aaron weekly in you kinda dad at each other up big time and repainted each other yen. I won't ever love a human being in my life. Like, I love air weekly. I mean, I just were fused on a cellular level. Really nice. So does Jemima give you a confidence that then you may be build the whole house on is that the foundation or my overstating now, it's pretty big the Jemima things pretty big. And she's such a big part of like like, you know, she's a big part of everything I've ever done professionally which is not an accident that I was like you come with me. Like it made me feel like I could make a movie. Was there when we feel like I could make a show that she was there. It still makes me feel like I can do like and she didn't necessarily want to act correct. When you put around girls it was like she tried to quit like three times tried to quit after the first season tried to quit after the second season. Finally after the fourth season. She was like, I think I'm staying full good because you signed a contract for six years. He could be is like didn't give a shit. And now she's like now, I really wanna make more things with her in them. And I think we're figuring out what they are. But she's also a painter, and she has two kids. She's someone who is a very rich lifelike she'll go on some kick and she'll Louis by like nineteen vintage baby shirts. She does not currently have a baby she'll buy like nineteen vintage baby shirts with like Disney characters on them from the forties. Should be like a curator at a super fancy boutique in his shoes. I'm wearing today. She had them at my house. And I just thought they were so cool. I said can I have them into? Yeah. They were five dollars. And I'm like, they're the most beautiful thing. I've ever they are still every time and a lot of. Times. I'll say can I have it about a thing. And it'll be really fancy and she'll say, yeah, I like, she'll I'm looking for a diamond earring of hers that she lent me that I now can't locate sure which is rude. Yeah. But if someone lends you enough diamond earrings, you're just will they'll stop eventually. That's when you'll know she's actually pisses you'll ask her to borrow something. She'll say, I can't you can't do it. I'm done is an unhealthy relationship. Our whole dynamic like for years. She's been like, you know, like a big thing was I was sick for a long time. So we'd make plan because I really wanna do it. And then I'd be like, I'm sick and she'd be like fine. And I know that that meant she was mad, and then I call her and she just be like, I don't know if I can do this again, I don't wanna make plays funeral at. Then really what she wanted was for me to be like, I'm sorry. I love you. Or do you wanna come over? I'd say do you wanna come over? And then she'd go, no. But like she wanted to be asked like I've learned I've leaned into more like what her languages and now he don't fight. It I roll with it. And that feels better it is hard to know win, especially when you're younger, you have all these definitions of what it means for you to love somebody. So I've had friends like this where they just kept failing me in my mind because they were doing. The thing that if I did it would be a real loud declaration that. I don't care about you. But then you gotta remember like everyone's weird family values. Some other aspects of mine values like loyalty in being there for each other. So if somebody in my opinion, demonstrated the lack of loyalty bet was you might as well, tell me fuck you. I don't care about you. But in their families probably something else, and I'm probably triggering those things. It's all very confusing. Right. It is. And you have to realize like learning to show up for people the way, they want you to it's taken me a while to be like, oh, you learn more the longer you're on this planet. Like, you're not born knowing how to show up for everyone until your twenties like mine tire twenties for lots of reasons I felt like I was fucking up all the time. And I've been like why are my thirties easier? I'm like, oh, maybe I like, no more things are and can avoid situation. I felt I felt like my twenty s were me constantly walking into situations and going how did this suddenly become a disaster? Right. And I did a lot of houses happening to me. And. Now, I think a lot more about like, how am I happen to this? Yes. Yes. What would what people don't seem to recognize again as pretty good appointing. This Al that self-aggrandizement is equal in every way to self pity. Yep. It's they're both eagle maniacal narcissistic places to think that either you're so important or that your the victim of some grand universe conspiracy. You've made yourself way too important in both. Well, I hear the term narcissist. They often think it means somebody who like has a really great huge sense of themselves. But I think some of the biggest nurses, I know are some of the most self hating depressed tragic figures because they have a sense that like all of the universes wrongs are in reaction to them. Right will. Yeah. Another thing. Again. I'm on my eighth a slogan. My favorite one is. I'm not much, but I'm all I think about. I like someone told me about when an alcoholic family member goes into alanon. Great and others to people thinking about you all the time. Will they already wore? That's why you were a good man, totally. But you don't you don't have any negative qualities or I do do. I do get candidate for it. You said you had trauma. You know? I'm told me what it was. But generally, there's a lot of trauma. There's a lot of anxiety. There's a lot of this feels like actually a safe place to say this. I wasn't going to and you'll tell me what you think because I think it's such a kind of it's such as something I will talk about more. And I'm writing about now which has been really interesting, but I was thinking as I came here. I was like do. I mean, I was gonna tell you privately. But I was like do I say this joy, not because it's such a like, you don't want to sort of advertise it and seem like you're so proud of yourself, but I've been sober for six months. I have gray. I was can I guess what happened? Yeah. This could be a fun. Guess can't wait. So you have anxiety really bad the biggest epidemic. No one talks about everyone knows about the opioid epidemic. Love where you're going with this. But what people don't recognize that the the benzoate. Epidemic is equally is rampant. You've hit the nail on that. It's a great great tool at the beginning of it. If you have Xanax is great advance Craig can operate in the world. Yes. But it is. Klina pin? Okay. Kalana Pimm, but it's very diminished returns answer to that problem. As is our opiates. So is that it was Bente percent Quanta pin? It is a rough hang on a pen and say the one of the hardest things the detox from has been zones. It's shocking. It's shocking. What it feels like? And it was a real slow. I mean, I've had experience I've had my share fair share of opiate experience because I've been so sick at times I've had like ten abdominal surgeries in the last three years. So while so I know what that looks like and I've had to take opiates for extended periods of time three two three weeks. Getting them doesn't feel great. Great great. You've got a, you know, you've got a pretty hard core. Twenty four to forty six hours twenty four to forty eight hours. I know how many hours are in two days. But the thing about lot of time on the toilet to lot of toilet a lot of time like like like loudly you to lot of time to read a magazine, but you don't want to. I know what that feels like the Benza thing is crazy because it's also firstly. Let's just say it is the most normalize, especially in our industry. Everyone's gotta fuck in pill in their purse a thing in their bag. I wanna make sure I have it with me because I'm going to this event. I'm gonna take half of zanex. I haven't really clawing fly a lot half. An I was a real just like my I remember my mom saying to me this is not me blame her when I was a kid. She was like there's no reason to ever suffer. There's no reason to ever suffer. And when my anxiety was really bad as a kid. She'd say we're going to get you on medication because there's no reason to ever suffer. Sure. And she's right. There's no reason to put your you don't need to be a hero about things, but I really took that to heart. And when I was having crazy anxiety having to show up for things that I didn't feel equipped to show up for. I was like there's no reason for me to ever suffer and at the beginning, or you're also probably evaluating will I can't do that things with without some help. So I just won't be doing it. But I know I need. To do it. I know you need to do it. And when I take a cop in I can do it. Suddenly I felt the thing everybody talks about in the rooms everybody talks about writing. Which is I feel like the person I was supposed to be yet. For me. I'll go hall. This guy were friends with Gordon Keith. He said a best was like, we're all born to beers away from being happy so good, and it was gonna and away from being. Yeah. And it wasn't just happy. It was like it was like suddenly I felt like the part of me that I knew was there was like freed up to do her thing right yet. It it quiets the monster upstairs enough that you can be your best self, and I didn't have any trouble getting a doctor to tell me. No, you've got serious anxiety issues. You should be doing that. You should be taking this. This is what how you should be existing. Right. So it stopped being I take them when I fly and it started being like, I take one when I'm awake rut rusher is open. Yeah. And then I was like sudden when you build up a tolerance pretty quick to Benza. Very fast. So I took them on and off. And then I had I was diagnosed with pretty serious PTSD after my I have like a no of few sexual traumas in my past than I had all these injuries than I had my hysterectomy after a period of really extreme pain. And I was diagnosed with PTSD, and I was basically it stop feeling if I had panic attacks. It started Vilnai was a living panic attack. I just the only thing that was notable were the moments in the day where I didn't feel like I was going to barf in faint. And so at that point. And the reason I talk about this because I think that I know deeply that I'm not alone during that time, you know, and by the way, I was taking medication, and it was I was taking on a pin in at that point. It wasn't making it better. But I just thought if I don't take this. How much worse will it get will? That's the thing is I I'm happy for people to do anything that as you say prevent suffering in the David harbour was on here. And he he has the best grasp of all this way better than I understand it because he knows depression, really, really well. Well, he has a great take on it for what that's worth you want here. So I'm out of my depth when I say, but disin- general I don't think you you should suffer. But the reason I'll come out on the side of it is it'd be great. If it really works. If it doesn't just like for me. I'll call it worked for a decade. But then it does stop working in at that point. Now, you're double fucked 'cause the thing that did work doesn't work in Milwaukee more anxious, and you're having crazy rebounding Zion throughout the day and something I feel really blessed about is it stopped working and within. I mean, if I look back there was a solid three years where I was to put it lightly. Misusing sure benzoate even though it was all quote, unquote, doctor prescribed, and I had convinced somebody to tell me that this was the way I can recognize now the way that my own like manipulation played a part. Sure, there's a lot to be on a that said I had a back problem for eight years old. I got so were the back problem when? Totally. Yeah. Well, I just thought my thought was like I'm not in being because I take pills. I take pills because I'm in pain, and I'm not anxious because I take pills. I take pills because I'm anxious. Suddenly realized that entire thing is turn on its Ted and the doctor who helped me detox off of Benzes, which is like, by the way, like the one. Again, the reason I talk about this isn't just to be like look at me. I did it. It's to be like people should know. Like, nobody. I know who is prescribed these medications is told by the way when you try to get off this it's gonna be like the most hellacious acid trip you've ever had where you're fucking clutching the walls, and your hair is blowing off your head. And you can't believe you found yourself in this situation. Like now, the literal smell of the inside of pill bottles makes me wanna throw up like we say the amount of trauma. I have just around that. And I still feel like my brain is recalibrating itself to be able to experiencing Ziobro. But even though the peaks of joy that I've experienced in my six months as righty are. There's nothing else. Like it on this planet. Yeah. People don't recognize pills and booze. And all that stuff. Does vary. Affectively help you deal with the lows, but it also then lops off the highs it let us start living in a very finite zone of basically, no feelings, no feelings, and I look back at who. I thought that medication was allowing me to be more myself. And I actually see I can see all of the things that sort of the world wrought upon me. I don't blame myself for my illness. I don't blame myself for my for the sexual abuse. I experienced I don't blame myself for the physical abuse. I experience I don't blame myself for the challenges of being a woman in this world and an anxious woman in this world and living in this body. But I do see the way that I medicate it myself negatively impacted people around me and decimated my decision making and hurt my creativity. And so I just feel literally like on my knees grateful every single day at mom. My worst moment in my life. I mean, yes, really hard things had happened to me. And I'm able to more clearly now see what they were. And like how they were turning points in my life, and like, I always thought might whole life. I thought I'm going to work my ass off. And then I'm going when I'm thirty. I'm going to get pregnant, and that's going to slow me down on a mobile. And then when I was thirty I literally that part of my body revolted, I had ten certain nine surgeries to try to be able to keep my uterus. Ultimately, couldn't and it was the deepest grief. I've ever had in my life. But before that at my lowest point, I was in a relationship with a really amazing loving person. I'd want a couple of Golden Globes won a couple of golden gloves. I had an incredible career. I had a family that loved me. I owned three houses. And I felt like I would go outside and like trees would look like they were menacing may like it was so dark, and the thing that I think is so scary about and really what I care about. Now. Like, I spent a lot of time. Oh, twenty twenty. What is? My cause because I care about everything I care about human rights and Justice. So it's like it's easy for me to throw my name behind a billion liberal causes. That are meaningful to me. But the thing that I care the most about is the intersection for women of trauma, mental health and addiction because I just think that in that nexus is like I can see how I would have been lost to the kind of like gravitational pull of my own pain and drowning out and I think we lose so many good women. We talk a lot about like, what are things that are holding women back and one of the things that I think is holding when MAC besides, you know, we know it's societal by as we know that it's, you know, there's a pay gap. We know, but also like the lack of resources around like tons of women have experienced trauma. We think PTSD is like reserved for Iraqi soldiers or whatever, but tons of women are experiencing incredible amounts of trauma as this past week with Cavanaugh showed us like the rain hotline went down because so many women were retraumatize. By listening to that testimony. And so I feel like my job having survived, and, you know, by the grace of God surviving every day and staying lean and staying in the world, but I feel like my job is to try to give a voice to that story. Now as up followed you over the years, what is infuriated me several times in where you and I- diverge, and you're so much more Volvo than I am is you are very liberal your outspoken proponent for a lot of meaningful change. And yet you've been devoured by the left like five or six times. Yes in the always fuck it infuriates me. It's one of my complaints about our site. Is that we just can't wait devour one another, and you just don't see that on the right as much aid definitely figured out. How to keep the cross talk to a minimum. So to speak like, they are really like their instep with each other. Even if they privately fucking despise each other. You're like I one time stupid. Unle referred to Rizza med on Ellen as be Indian. And a he is Pakistani. Visit turns out I mean, he's lived in England. So he's neither. But I did that in. I got you know, several hundred people calling me a racist on Twitter, and my knee jerk reaction was like you could be tweeting David Duke, you're you're you're choosing to use that energy on me. It just feels like it Arthur bigger fish to fry than me sane that it why is that where your energy is going, and I get defensive, but I've seen you in the face of that like apologized people when I personally would have either been incapable. I just don't didn't think they deserved an apology. You seem to have this really benevolent like it doesn't it's not gonna kill you or paying you to just ignore that they're hurt and keep it moving. How do you? How do you go through those? And what what happens when those things happen to you? I for sure made mistakes I've made big mistakes. And it's funny because I was never a drinker. I was never a pot smoker. I never did quote, unquote, recreational drugs. So it never occurred to me that my judgment could be impaired in any way. 'cause I was like I'm just taking the medication. I need to be alive. Right. And now, I look, and I'm like, no all my senses weren't intact. And maybe I wasn't being as sensitive or as self aware as I could have been. I'm not saying I mean, there are plenty of times that I did things people didn't like where I was stone cold in Zion, easy ridden sober. But there were also times like I think my judgment was generally impaired by my obsessive desire to escape my own pain. And I think that the thing about apologizing now there's a whole narrative like all Lena Dunham ever does get into shit and apologize for it. But I'm like, it's not our job, isn't that any long-term relationship is just like a fucking series of Apollo the nice of going to be much easier for you. Most people what he wants my apology sitting there like the. New thing is I'm like, how do I because I am such an obsessive apologize or like someone like crashes into me? And I say, I'm sorry. Like, I can't my dad used to make a rule he'd say. No more saying, I'm sorry today in no more saying, I love you because it would be like I'd wake up and I'd be like sorry LMU. Sorry, everything. And he was like, no, John. So like had a meaningfully apologized, and how to apologize to people in the way that they wanna be apologized to like I want a super verbose apology in which you explain to me what a wonderful person. I am and how I've changed your life. Somebody else may just want you to fuck in shelf for their birthday party in shut the fuck up. Right. Writes about yourself for five fucking. I don't wanna talk about it. Can we just go get sushi, and you can be the fuck quiet is like, yeah. Yeah. So I'm working men's for a living a living amends so to speak. Yeah. Was there one though that was harder for you. Where you were like, I'm about to apologize to somebody that I don't feel like deserves an apology a couple public apologies where I've been like, I can't fucking believe. I have to say this right now. Like, I cannot believe I'm trying to think if there's any ones that really stand out to me right now, there's a few where I've been like, maybe this is a good point. But the person who brought this up as a fucking asshole ri-. I can't like like I'll look at their Twitter, and I'll be like this person's called out seventy two celebrities in the last thirty two hours, so helpful to occasionally look at people's timelines. Then when it's called just go look at Britney Spears, you're tois, and I'm like, oh, you're not regulating your emotions at all. No in the night quickly realized like, oh, this person is in the hunt of prestige in a call out culture in the most generic way possible in like, I don't need to be fodder for this person at whatever I use let blow pass me, but it is weird because we have access to too many people. Here from too many people just no matter what it's hard to know of what you said was ninety eight percent. Received an imprint she wanted or if what you said is actually offensive to forty percent of people. It's almost impossible to know. It's kind of like when you have a great meal rarely to someone call the manager over to say like, hey, just want to let you know. My my server was awesome. And the food was great. But if you find a toenail in your steak, you're gonna and tell them yet, it's up is a much bigger motivator. So it's hard to know what your message, whether you know, alternately in a utilitarian sense. It was a win. Or if it was a blunder right hundred percent. And it's also just like at a certain point. And this has been a big part of the last. I keep saying the last six months, and that is six months ago is when I was like, no more substances that could alter my mind or going into my body. But the last six months are also when I was like, I need to take care of myself, or I'm never going to be able to make anything again like I had to look at my life and me like I want to be an old lady like my favorite filmmakers Agnes far done. She's French and she's in her late eighties. Early nineties, and she was just on the cover of interview magazine. She's a Sheik bitch. I wanna be fucking eighty eight and waking up at four in the morning to like write my magnum opus. I don't wanna be thirty four and like withering away in my own guest house. Yeah. So it's like you have to just really than at certain point. You have to go like, okay. There's here's where the rubber hits the road. Like, I'm going to start taking care of myself because it's no longer glamorous for me to stay up all night, drinking bottled, Starbucks and like pounding through this and then like a withering away with anxiety tomorrow. And so a big part of my last six months has also been like, how am I going to be cool with the gap as Ribot gap in perception between how the public sees me. And who I know I am. Yeah. It's not even about how I see myself. It's like when I close my eyes, and I meditate like the warm like light of my own like essential being is like indirect opposition to the picture. That's been painted of me. And like, how am I going to be okay with that? And it turns out the answer is just like minute by minute hour by hour like try. Stay connected to that feeling is how you're going to be okay with it. You can for more armchair expert. 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Sign up at armchair dot robinhood dot com. That's armchair dot Robin, Hood dot com. So I've only hung out with Jemima once or twice I think Chris knows her and she came over one time to our house. I said to her like, hey, can I talk to you on the side here about something? I do the movie with Adam driver, and I loved him from girls, I was excited to meet him. And it turns out were he's from a little town in Michigan right next to where my grandparents owned a motel now way. And we're going to get on famously. And I was like oh my God. You're from water like my grandparents hotels in Sturgis. And he's like, oh, okay. And I was like oh really do that. That's that. And that that was that. And then we had to promote this movie together. I tried. Yup. Yup. And I tried maybe three other times to connect with him. Never door was never cracked a kept knocking on it. So I said to Jemima is said to me, and she goes, no, no. He was kind of like that. An intro all of us. Craziest girls at house like what a superpower he's smart enough to just not give any we were. All I have to say this to is that we were nuts for Adam Dr because gives it in dribs and drabs. He's not mean right is just coming in. He's doing his job. So well, he's not looking like gab with you about your cat craft service. A key is doing his fucking job. And I think you can tell when he does press like Adam is there to like do the best version of the fucking thing and get out, and I definitely like as a especially before I was like a little more like emotionally regulated as like an like a people pleasing site Ville, Jonker approval junkie. I was constantly putting myself. In the path of Adam driver, if you're listening. I'm sorry about how many times you're just looking at your screen, and I was standing in front of you present you with two different apples and asking which one you might like to eat like I was just and then if I couldn't get it. I'd be like did I do something. Is there something like atoms behavior? It was a great example of like Minar schism was me being like Adam seems a little tired today. I don't know what I did. And it's like, maybe you just like he was like working on his lines like, but yes, it's a superpower. And ladies go crazy frat offer. A he had me on the run. I I got no business with him. We're not gonna Faulk. Here's Adam he's like the coolest and in every sense of the word like I always the definition of like, a cool cool person is like they kind of don't seem like they're like Leuven on your time clock. But I have never known a pro or man, and he's so good on SNL. I didn't see it yet. But I'm curious always great at it. Because it's an interesting thing, which is like he's you know, like when you meet him quite of quite a serious, focus, gentlemen. But he's he's down to clown in the right context. He's down to clown. He's a deeply supportive person to do a scene with like, even if he just put your hand on your shoulder. You're like, oh like he is all about making the work work out. I'm really the only time I've ever really felt like I was like an actor is acting without him. 'cause I'm like, oh because he can make like a fucking rock feel like they're going to win an Oscar because. Yeah. So good. And he's delivering you your thing. Like on a platter? That's how I felt was Peter Krause I was like, oh, he's sucking me into his. Oh, yeah. That makes Mueller special little world. Yes. Like he is so trained in so skilled that he would create a reality for both of us. He'd suck me news little bubble. When you did that on girls, you did this punk rock thing in your new. And you did all this stuff it then you inadvertently became like the face of bravery was that like what I didn't mean to do that. I didn't mean to become the face of anything. And then I had a while where I bought into my own mythology. And I was like okay was made the face of this thing. So I better do this thing and something I've really been enjoying. We're now living in a time. Like when I first started piping up about stuff like a lot of celebrities wooden say who they were voting for. They wouldn't talk about politics. They wouldn't talk about abortion. Like, it wasn't now that we're living in a house gape people are talking about it a lot of people are talking about it. And suddenly I've been doing this where I'm like. Okay. A lot of very cool women have this covered. I did it for a while nine gonna hang back. So I talk about things if I think it's very very important or have a particular. Her take on it. Or I try to offer my support where it's needed. But I don't think of myself like, I'm just like, okay. I'm off in my cave writing. Yeah. Do you have a type of guy you have a dream type great mass gin, and it makes me feel good to be asked type of guy. I mean, it's changed over time. When I was younger, I was like I've always liked to musician. We did you have a favorite heartthrob from childhood. This isn't really where yet I have a couple. But like, I mean, I was obsessed with in order to Capri. Oh when everybody else was, but it was like like a sickening love like I was sick over had it for note Campbell or my stomach hurt so bad when I'd watch party of five. But then the person who I felt an I've told him this. He knows in high school the person who I like wanted to shoot myself over. Yes, I shouldn't be using gun metaphors time in history of I'll give person I wanted to like OSA better. If you want to slit, your karate Geyer artery, sometimes on people on Twitter will be like like. Like, I'll be like off you're being so casual about mental illness. It's like at a certain point him link. I'm so mentally ill. I happen. My whole life. Yeah. I also feel like you don't own the world like when you've dealt with trauma. Like the last thing you need is to have your approach to managing it. You're healthy approach to managing which is humor. I would argue humor's the healthiest way around these issues. Like, I'll apologize for a lot of shit. But I'm not gonna apologize for leaky using humor to get through my life. So that I don't roll off. It's like when you have a parent die the shit you and your siblings joke about like stuff, my brother, and I were joking about while. My dad was day was horrific. Anyone that would you'd it? But man, it helped us so much. It's so fun and funny when it's happening all my grandma was dying the best time with my cousin. We love our grandma. We were. So it was horrible the women were around her. And it was like, you know, it was peaceful ish, but it was really stressful, and we were in the room with her and my cousin, and I kept doing this posed likely were Japanese. You know, when you see those pictures online, and it's like a tourist, and they don't realize they're in front of like a car accident. I thought it was funny to kinda stand in front of our grandma and like flash apiece. Sign and smile to each other. And then my cousin was like, we do this. I could lose my job. And I was like we're in a room alone. Making us feel better. And grandma would want us to feel good Emma likes jokes. I just just in a Marais is shared this in Toronto last weekend. Which was I even had I s nurse to take the photo of me. And I held a pillow over my dad's face while he was sleeping, and I sent it to my brother and said just tying things up here in Detroit. Misery thick. But he and I are both. It was so funny to us, of course. And it's like, and by the way, the nurses know that you need it the amount of jokes. I made when I was in the I was in the hospital for eleven days last fall for my it'll it'll be a year since I had my hysterectomy November. And I was in the hospital for eleven days leading up Russa, my mom had it when we were kids. That's the only time I've ever seen her taken out. Oh, it was so rough. And like I was sick to the core of my being and I held up this sign. I this made me and I've never shared this picture. But it makes me so happy. It's me in my hospital. Gown standing up like, you know, when you have to take your done like IV stand to the bathroom, and I'm holding up a small sign that someone gave me his Trump loves rape. It's my favorite protests picture. Mom had been I'm gonna take it. But don't post it. Host in or poor. Parents that have had to go along with all my mom took like the most beautiful picture of me in the hospital. And she was like you if you're gonna post anything post this. It was like like me sleep land. This is disgusting. An embarrassing Whitby never finished your sentence. Who you we're gonna shoot yourself over Jimmy Fallon? It was illness inducing how much I loved him. I thought about all the time. I literally thought about them all the time. And I've told him that. I mean, I was sprung a Jimmy Fallon. Naval was the moment when you got to tell him where you like, I want us talk show. I told him before I was just like place action. Yeah. It is just tell them in a hallway. He's does a lot of wiggle room. But if it's a talk show, it's like there's the in inborn boundary of the talk show. And he was so nice about it. And you know, he's like an adult man with kids in the whole thing. He's not like, you know, like a twenty four year old and a giant sweater. Like, that's us. Mary guys with kids. We live off of those comments. It can get us through a lot just to even know someone felt that way about horse. And like if I hear someone things literally anyone becomes attractive to me when I hear they think I'm attractive off me do. You'd be off my feel truly the opposite. I'm like, oh, there's something wrong with you. But but yeah. But then that's nice. I love having crashes. Hat on me. Anyone can become appealing. Yeah. Again, I should be more evolved in this. But in fact, I've said this on here, you could say anything about me. And I mean, it you could go Dax is the dumbest fucking idiot in his nose is so gross. I wanna fuck him. I'm so good. I'm like, I didn't even I'm no longer heard the first thing you just hers on how those gross things about me. Make you horny for me. And now every life is out the window. That's out the window. Well, this stay your office forever. Sadly, this is getting torn down. But I'm game on buildings humping right behind us. That will become this new. That's so cool. Are you hear all the time? Monica. I he here all the time. Yeah. So cool twain her pain him and Kristen, yeah. You'll hear all the time. Yeah. We're in a lifestyle. It's a lifestyle. I love it. Now. I'm really socked in to telling stories like it's really where I wanna be where my energy is going and the idea of nailing, my public persona or like killing it in my public life has really become like something. That was interesting for me that happened last week. Like, I did a big long interview for a profile. That's coming out around my new show. And I for the first time it was like, I didn't say anything funny, and I don't care. Yeah. I was so not funny. I was just like, yeah. I have PTSD. I didn't feel good last year. It was horrible year. I like to be at home with my cats. I'd like to watercolor. This is my show. Like, it was just like, yeah. They'll let desire to present because the desire to be funny in the desire to be liked and the desire to present has actually got me in a lot of trouble in the past. Yeah. Oh me over oh, I've gone away. Too far in it. I've gone too far. It has not been good. It has not been a good scene or I made a joke. I'm going to you've done, obviously, Hollywood Foreign Press stuff. I just did this week and. For those who don't understand what Holly Hollywood Foreign Press is they're basically they've left their country of origin. And they are international journalists that cover a an area their country, Croatia whatever, but they live here in Hollywood in you, do these kind of big interviews where there's like thirty of them. And then they disseminate that to their home country, and it gets out around the world. Well, because they're all foreign in humor in comedy is pretty regional. You can get into hot water pretty easy making jokes in front of them, which I did one time we were doing parenthood panel in the question was like we will notice. Crosby has a black child us with a black woman. But you never talk about is she she is black. Whether you know, he's trying to ask like, why aren't we ever address the fact that we're an interracial relationship, and I know Kate hymns as like doesn't really want to handle this question. So I'm like I'm going to let him off the hook. Yeah. Oh, he goes. Why why did you choose to have? That's what it was. Why did you choose to put Crosby internet racial relationship? And why don't you talk about? And I said, Well, I I got this. You know, the the show's based on the moving in the movie my character had a half black child. And once you have half black child will be honest. We were just painted into a corner. And I see all these people either writing in there with their pens this direct quote or typing my direct, quote, not a single chuckle, and I realize, oh, this was not obvious to them that I was being funny and sarcastic they're gonna you're gonna read in Croatia. They were painted in cornered at a higher. And also the other thing, that's amazing. Once you've have like child, your pain into corner has also an amazing thing because you're like you're like, I'm also clearly making fun of you for asking question, which is thing that doesn't come off. Totally. You're like, I'm mocking you for even bring another big enough. Dick to say to you. That's a stupid question. We shouldn't have to say that they can just be in a fucking relationship without doing an episode, of course. But I'm not gonna say that. So yes, I'm trying to do with by a joke. And it's like I've had the app in a bunch of times and also my desire to make everybody feel comfortable. Like, that's a big thing. I had to face this year. When I was thinking about all these issues of sexual harassment height is that sometimes men would do things that crossed my boundaries. And I was uncomfortable with and I'd be so uncomfortable that I would like rise to meet them where they were. So it's like if someone made like a sexual joke to me, I would almost like be so scared that they were going to be in. Fairest and like I win project into their embarrassment. But like I'd be like making a sexual joke back to someone who just made my skin crawl and made me want to quit my job. And so then something you're like, I'm playing along with this thing that I don't wanna be playing along with in by the way. This is why the whole issue is about a trillion times more complicated than we're giving it credit for because there's something like that. Right. Like, so I can make a pervy joke and make a lot of pervy jokes. I like to think I know when people are up for that or not their thing. That's nice those year. I've been noticing actually on this podcast is that your pervy jokes. Are usually directed at yourself and their self effacing. Like, you're not here to make anybody else feel and I've noticed this when I've listened you're not here to like project onto anybody else's sexuality or make them feel like you're making assumptions about who they are sexually emotionally I try not to. But I I certainly fuck up by the way that you know, a moment not batting a thousand percent. But this is why I think it's so much more complicated than we recognize. We were watching. Thing. I wanna say it was sixty minutes in they were talking about the sexual harassment. That's been happening with chefs around, and they they detailed a few different examples. But one of them was I believe it was someone either managed or work that spotted pig which is one of my favorite restaurants in this manager or owner owners spotted pick on a lot of trouble. In one of the examples was he leaned over in a car and kiss this employee of his and she didn't say anything to him. So let me just I want to be very delicate about how I explain this. I was watching it. And what happened was he he went in and he kissed her in the maybe grabbed do not even sure what all happened. But when she was talking about the experience, she was paralysed. She was absolutely paralyzed. When it started happening, and what has never heard to me as a guy in which should occur to me. Because I read a great book called on killing talks about that. We think that humans have two mechanisms fight or. Flight reality ninety percent of the way animals deal with things is posture and submit we have way more hard wiring for a guy to go. Fuck you you fucking pussy. And then the guy just goes kind of blank like all right? I'm not gonna do anything. I'm not gonna say sorry Nora. I'm going to submit your posturing, I'm going to submit. That's why guys didn't fire back when soldiers were storming them shooting at them, your brain registered, that's a posture. I'm going to submit do nothing. I'm not gonna fire back or do anything. I'm just gonna go paralyze. So it's weird for me as a guy trapped in my own view and worldview, if a guy leaned over and tried to kiss me, I would go. Oh, I don't want to do that in. So I stupidly assume anyone that doesn't wanna kiss me. If I lean over will tell me, oh, I don't wanna kiss you. I'm never thinking that the person might actually feel paralyzed by my approach and give me no signals and that that could be happening. That's where it's like it's just like in. Inborn power structures where like everybody has to kind of go. Okay. This person's not gonna tell me. No. So I'm going to understand that I'm not supposed to lean over and try to kiss anyone who I have basic power over like if I'm your boss even little things. Like, if I'm a lot more wealthy than you. When you don't have a job. And you think I might help leads like if you're the service provider, and I'm the customer like there's just all kinds of dynamics in which it's even harder to assert yourself. So what you're saying is like any woman being kissed by any man might freeze up. But especially a woman who's being kissed by save the owner of the restaurants that she is then gonna have all these let's go through this person gives me my income. This person could tell other people in the business that I did something this person could hurt my career this because I still have a thing like I can make a lot of choices about my own career. I have as much power as I personally need. And if I think I've offended or pissed off or step on the toes of someone who seemingly has more power or more money or more prestige than me my first. Thought is like they're gonna take everything from me. Yeah. 'cause that's always my thought about everything if that is going to get taken from me yen weirdly think that the way out of all of this or through all of this is going to be like we're going to have to amp up our communication about a bazillion percent. Because again, what that guy did was wrong. There's no question. But also that story needs to be shared. So that us guys who only know how we would deal with that. And we're never even comprehending that some of my not say anything, we need to know that that's the thing. And we'd probably need to ask like I'd like to kiss you or whatever there's just we're going to have to amp up every quite up bar communication. And that's how I feel about. Like, I wanna amp up my communication with everybody. And unless somebody directly says to me like I don't want to talk about this. I'm gonna keep trying to about it. But what's interesting is again, you have to Lena Dunham has a huge mallet that you probably don't even know you have an. A second by second basis. Which is you have a ton of power. But I can't imagine you walk around feeling like you have a ton of power rial, so powerless. And I think some of that is just I think that there's a sense of powerlessness that comes with being a woman, especially women at this time in I mean, a woman at every time in history. But right now, we've had this regression into into like power that we thought we had is gone. But also, I think like all of our trauma gives us a sense of powerlessness. So many of us walk around feeling like the person that we were in some way on our internally feeling the person we were in some way on our worst today even on our best day. And then it's weird because I always feel like if I do realize I have power like flex it at the wrong moment or the way. Like, it's like I say, yes. And I say, yes. And I say, yes. And like I experienced this week. I was working on this movie. This Quentin Tarantino movie, I'm honored to be on it. It's an amazing experience. It's a dream. But like because of my autoimmune stuff it's hard for me to be in exposed in the sun for really long time gets my gets my. Shake going. And I know if I if that I'm gonna feel sick later. Yeah. And so there was a shot that like where I was probably in the deep background and we're out in the sun for a long time. And you know, they were being nice in everyone was being nice, and we got sunscreen, we've got umbrellas, but suddenly like, my brain starts go after a full, you know, two months of thinking I'm garbage in garbage on Mike beverage. My brands like I'm a very busy woman have seventeen jobs, but my son like this in the crowd excuse me like Sunday. It's like it never comes out at the moment that it would be useful to me. Gore's always comes out at the moment where it's like garbage bratty nece and to do anything with it would be offensive at like, not what am I gonna do storm out of the Shah? And I'm already in established in literally at this moment, or I texted my agent. And I was like listen if they're gonna have me in the deep background of the scene, we should get a double what she got. She got. And then I'm like, oh, I'm older than these other girls. I should advocate for them. Unlike and they should get doubles for the other girls, but not just entails putting more girls. Getting a mile so long getting paid and we have like umbrellas and sunscreen Maguire, am I being this way? Everything's alternately just me plotting to get back to bed, right? My whole life is a slow crawl band. Yovany to force yourself to remember him. When you first saw Pulp Fiction the first time. What limb you would have cut off to have been a part of that literally? And that's how I every single day. I would then like I would like aunt myself up. It'd be like grow your Quentin your Quentin Tarantino nothing you in a buck and Quinton. Offline a fucking Tino motherfucker deer has like the most fascinating person to watch work. So when I got to be close to that. I was but when he was like way up at you know, he doesn't have video village, which is so cool. But when he was way up at the lake top of a hill. And I was at the bottom of a hill in the deep background of a shot, you can better. And also, my friend Margaret who was in the scene with me. She was doing an impression of me. 'cause like I'd be like, hey is this the last shot and the and the like second aid? You would be like, no, we've got three more. We're gonna go. Great. Great. Great. Great. Great great. Yeah. Right. And she was like the way you're saying the meanest thing I've ever this is such a blessing. I looked at my like life the other day. I was telling my Janet who runs my company, I was like, I just took a look at sort of my ledger. My as my grandma would call my income ledger and not one thing that is like supporting my life or the lives of people that I love or my employees or the charities. I care about comes from me having to be anywhere. On anyone else's time. And that to me is the greatest blessing in the world. And that is actually something that's come to me in the last six months like like like, I was like, okay, it's gonna take a little while for the gifts of like getting off of medication and being in my life, and like the joys of it all to appear and actually there's been like an incredibly light. There's in Lincoln incredible. As I've like figured out what my next phase looks like like, it's been I've been able to make some extremely authentic choices will. And I just want to clarify because I think it could be seen as either era gate or ungrateful. But I would argue that it's incredibly healthy. Because I now look at situations where all hear what this shooting of the Leonardo movie the revenue was like I have crew members from my movie had been on that movie. And I hear about that experience. And I I now I'm of the opinion. No, I would not be willing to suffer for six months and be miserable. So that nothing I was in would be heralded his. Great. And I think it's healthy. 'cause I now recognize like, oh, that's my eagle eagle wants to be in something that everyone looked up to. But but and then of may my life miserable just to validate, my egos. So it's not healthy for me. When I think that's one of the reasons that like people like why are actor so bummed out all the time because they are have this amazing job in it's their dream. They're finally achieving their dream. But I think there's this thing that happens where it's like. You're a performer in high school in you love being in plays in it's super fun. And you put on plays with your friends, and you were hearse after school, you found a place. That's you. Then you get into the movie industry in your literally like, your body's of prop the studio tells you to lose weight, they add hair your hair, your like kinda like, you know, ruffled over Lee kinda feel like a little bit over touched and degraded and made into something. So obviously there's much harder jobs own Audra strating things. But it's like, it's not the thing that gave you all this joy. And like, I always try to have a lot of empathy like if an actors real bitch onset, and I'm not saying bitch about a woman like I mean, like a guy girl, whoever an asshole asshole someone's a fucking asshole about their seen in. They're trying to change their lines of they're asking you why they're doing something that is in many ways on this particular project, their only source of power, and we all wanna feel powerful in our lives are I think a lot of. It's just fear of giving started hundred images star a quite often. Nearly as bad as you thought. It was going to be in being a person is tiring. And it's scary. And it's scary. No matter where you are. And there's very few people in the world that I can't muster something, resembling empathy for although there's certainly a couple sure. But I've also had to realize we come into our careers thinking that as you said like I had a lot of thoughts. Like, if I could only, you know, host SNL one time and go to you know, one party where my my dress has a train. I'm never gonna feel mess. Ball host us anelle on then. And I'll be approved. I am valuable. Yeah. But my thought was always in then I can get in bed forever. Right. Right. Or the ultimate fantasy was just to to just be done. Yeah. I relate to that. And I have got a really police myself on that. Because I because when you do that or when I do that what I what I realize is. I'm forgetting that the process is so fun. And I'm looking only at the results, and then I want to do nothing, but that's a bizarre fantasy to have. Yeah. Like being productive in itself is a value and gives you self esteem, the thing that I learned joyful I ever since when I'm making something, and I don't know if people are going to like it or if they're not gonna like it or connect to it if they're not going to connect to it like what a pleasure. The thing though, that I think is helpful in this writer, Don Roose. I don't know if you know who he is. But he's a wonderful, man. I look up to him so much. But he one time told me like, you know, when you say my career that your ego when you say, my work, that's healthy. So like stop thinking about like this project is blank for my career. That's that's a story. That's like something you think's going to be evaluated. But my job is to sit down and write on a computer, something like careers, just my activity. I knew he is to drive me crazy 'cause I would say to my dad like, I'm so sick. But I have to go do this. Thing. And he's like what is half. Do. You mean? And I'm like, I'm going to be in a ton of trouble. If I don't and what has trouble mean. And I'd be like it's going to be terrible. Like, I'm not gonna be able to do the things I want to in the future, and he'd be is that true. And he would just be asking the questions, and I'd be like, you don't get it. You don't get anything. Was actually saying like there's almost nothing, and I've learned that actually one of the great gifts of being sick has been sometimes I just have to stop and listen to my body, and there's truly almost nothing like do. I regret being sick. And missing one barmitzvah. Like any daughter is not mitzvah. I would've done anything to be there. Right. The rest of it. Like, yeah. Is fine Vel with all that said the remaining thing that could get me very horny would be to be an tarintino movie that lets me is like a zero s rations left book. Fuck and af I could be in one of those ten movies. He's going to make I would love to watch him work. I would just. Yeah. So you get a call or did you audition? You got a call. Right. I had a meeting with him, and we talked and I've been a, Hugh, I love the female characters that he writes. I care a lot about his work. It's been very formative for me, I expressed that and then. I got to go to the set. And the first day I called up my friend Mary on the way home from set. And I was squealing like a kid who went to DisneyWorld. But I just couldn't believe you know, he doesn't have cell phones on his set. Really is everybody leave their cell phone in. It's not some crazy. Like, I'm afraid you're gonna leak my thing. It's like he's just like be present. He's just like being here. So everyone's doing their job. No one's like checking their fantasy football. No one's reading an e book. It's like so cool as you're traveling back to like ninety eight I couldn't believe it. And I was like everyone is so focused. I made friends I was excited. Vinnie stood for having a cellphone, did you witness that seen it? Although I did at one point ask a PI was take Brad Pitt soft away. So. Yeah, it was like, Nope. But I never saw pull it out while he's smart enough not to pull it out. He so fuck as Bayard Jesus Christ died. I mean, he's everything that you would hope that he would be I saw him once in his this morning. Actually, I don't want to brag on. I only saw him in constume the day. He wasn't in his constume. And I was like where do you even get a white t shirt? Look all thank you. Maybe he just wears everything that westall look is just so cool. And he's so nice. He's nice to everyone knew remembers. Everybody's name. Like, you're like others reason, you get to be a movie star. Yes. You're better at things in the average process. A little I've learned a really cool trick from a a camera operator a Scorpio Afrikaner. Oh, he taught me this really cool trick. Which is he had read that you learn people's names better when you need something from them if you need something from a person you will remember their name. So what he does because the camera, but here's more than anyone. They got remember like the standings name, the the the person who's just guest starring that day because he's going to have to say, Michael will you step here Stipe there. So what he does is. He hangs out at crafty in the morning, and he's just kind of sitting there with his coffee when that person comes up introduced himself, many says, oh, Michael will you hand me a sugar. He creates a task in. I need. So that he needs something from them for one moment. And that's how he doesn't. I was like, that's brilliant. I'm so bad at it. And I had to have I had the worst realization ever as like, oh, I'm so bad at names. I don't remember everyone's name, then I had to admit to myself. Oh, I know the producer's name another director's name. I know everyone above me's name. That's really good. You grappled with it and got all it's disgusting. I know everyone that's above me's name. But it kind of answered he later answer that question is I need something from those people or I want something from those behind. So then I've learned their name. But what I found is when I direct and everyone's name every person on the cruise name because again, I need stuff from them. I neon you know, the prop master to get this thing. Jeffrey Johnson one hundred percent I had an antagonistic relationship with the prop master one season as an actress or a show Senate show runner. But like, you know, when you kind of make somebody I don't know if you ever do this like the joking, but of your constant rage. And I am. Direct. I felt comfortable directing it all at this white man whose name is Glen. And I'd like to hear apologized to Glenn who didn't deserve. I wasn't like bean to him. But anytime there was a problem onset. I'd be like is on Glenn like, I was like sassy, and you know, what the root of it was one time. I was supposed to be drinking coffee in a scene, and Glenn did something really insane unforgettable. Yeah. He poured Pepsi in a Cup. And then added milk. I guess you liked didn't have coffee at that minute or at happens, which I get. But like, I was like, well, aren't you really trying to get me to take a sip of Pepsi and milk in this scene? Like, what do you think gonna happen? I'm not this good in actor Pitt. Could do it. I can't do it would derail you you didn't finish Tarantino. So you had a meeting with him. Are you loud to even you probably not say anything is or no. Or no get genres known movies about Hollywood in the late. Sixties awesome. It's amazing is the title known called once upon a time in Hollywood, okay grin. And so you have a great mandates known that I play a Manson girl. Manson. Blue is public knowledge. And there has been a photo of me, and my costume ten showing your underwear ratatouille Mandorf, Brad Pitt. And so I wear a kind of fun Linney slash crocheted kind of moot. Dress her and kind of an an a kind of big you Asli ethnic earring rings situation, and some hair extensively owns the Manson stuff is so much more interesting than I had originally known the guy wrote a really detailed book, and he was on MPR or something I heard like the fact e- like he was preparing for a race war. He's trying to instigate a race war China instigate a race war. Because what he thought was going to happen was that his people were gonna find a city under the desert go into it. When it was going to be a race war instigated by them instigated by them black people were going to win. But then lackey wouldn't be used to running the country. So in whatever number of years, it will be in shambles. And then they'd crawl out from under the desert and laid Cueva waiting game there for a minute. But they were in-depth like like we. Of them. They I think they were into paying goes where they were generally, you know, they were generally hanging out in Chatsworth. Oh in Chatsworth grey. Yeah. Which is where we've been filming. Okay. And he also unbeknownst to me is he was an aspiring musician. Right. Most desperately wanted to earn nail lable on the internet mirror. Terrible. They're not not a good singer. He's not like a hot talent that everyone's looking by. And what is and he was using those Gaels originally to sleep with record, executives and stuff. So that he would get his foot in the door. It's so weird because he had two very different messages. What was like is going to be apocalypse and race war and then side project, I need to become a popular. Hang on the whole interesting about the Manson story to me is like I feel like we have such a cultural obsession with it with him and with the girls and with what was that dynamic? But the thing I feel like we don't say, and what was interesting to me in playing this. And in researching the only part of ever like researched for right is like what it really is a story about sexual abuse is a story about sexual abuse. The wait how did he people like how did he get all those women was he so charismatic now what he did was the same thing that pimps do which is who are gonna which is zero in on women who already had an enormous amount of trauma figure out how to make them feel temporarily special then dominate them in exactly the way that they were used to being dominated. So it was like a retraumatize Asian and perpetuation of their sexual shame and fear and humiliation and mixed with probably Stockholm syndrome. That's part of a two, right? I'm one hundred percent. Sure. And now there's like women who have spoken about it since. And what the experience? Is like, but like, you know, I think we all like to think like oh my God. These people are crazy. But we don't like to think is like a lot of us. Yeah. Because of our different shit would be. I mean, I've had a few kind of like experiences where I've like gotten a little too into like, you know, an LA health guru or whatever and then suddenly gone link own now like it's just yeah. Oh, my God, my friend Russell took a picture of me the other day wearing multiple layers of rust colored clothing than did a more better between Sheila, I I felt really cool. I'm obsessed in so in love with Ma non Sheila, she's my number one. She's your hall pass Falk in a I told Monica I get a time machine making two stops her grandma when she was eighteen sexiest woman I've ever seen in my life. L Monica's mad grandma is the hottest woman that's ever walked planet or oh my God. She's she is a smoke show. Holy shit. You're going to stop it Monica's, grandma, then straight Tamang on when she's billed net city. What a powerful lady she. I know we'll she would. Good to win. She fuck you up in shack. And then she says you out the whole ride. I'd be of love it. It'd be so sorry feel so and also because you're like a person with a lot of energy and intensity. Like, it'd be nice to free almost you just be shut down. My she'll love it's like those like those powerful businessmen who are submissive and they go get their asses. Heaven heaven heaven. Yeah. Like, just check all my alpha bullshit at the door on March me around for me up and down the flagpole die for it. So when you when you actually you got a call and said, you're in this movie when I found out I was really really really excited. And then I went for a costume fitting. I went for another costume fitting. I kept thinking like something was going to happen at every phase right where they were. The clerical mistake would be noticed. Andrea percent. You're gonna get fired after the first. After my first shot. I was like that probably isn't what they wanted. So today this morning before I came here when I wrapped and they said that's a wrap on Lena Dunham, like even though everyone was so nice. There was a part of me that was like it are they like okay now if figure out how to how to Pat her out. Amazing. You you still feel like you're going to get fired on the first day or cut like that net. Never goes away ever goes. Brad Pitt's insecure. And some of those this movie, I promise I mean, he has an he's so good at acting. Cool Brad Pitt's so good at doing cool stuff. Did you see him with his shirt off at all? Did you know, but I had this thing which is like sometimes when there's someone who's very like traditionally attractive, technically attractive, although I think red has radical him has something more transcends, his he transcends his good looks and redefines them, but it's almost like I have a more paternal feeling towards him wanting to care for him and wanting to to put him back inside my mum, but might sexual this is Monica 's thing too. I haven't I have at the army ring sexual sexuality proclivity fantasy so cool. Yeah. And I think you know, what my diagnosed in Monica as is you've figured out a way to make yourself essential to the person. And like everyone else is offering this. But I've got this Mitch thing I can do that's gonna make me special in their eyes. And they're gonna know that they can't get this with anybody else. My thing is like I'll be his only date that can his motorcycle breaks. He can rise safely on the back of mind. One hundred percent. How this very few people he could trust. Now. He wouldn't be on the back of a motorcycle with. He's got children. He knows that ride your motorcycle a lot. Yup. Yup. Nonstop. So you'll ride gets your way of getting places. I say it's my superpower couple days ago. We were all on a plane together leaving Toronto we get off the plane. He has his motorcycle or like by I step into Uber line. And I got a text from him home. Spiegel's Scott Elliott man yet. It's a superpower feel like teleport places because of the motorcycle does Belva ride on the back. She's not scared. She has the weirdest thing. She could give a shit. I took her. There's this racetrack in Germany, call the Nurburgring, and it's the longest race track in the world. It's a seventeen mile lap. I rent this Porsche from APIs rental car. You're not supposed to take it on the track. Do anyways the backstretch were going hundred ninety five miles an hour. I look over at her. She's like thumbing through a magazine ish does even look up to see that. We're doing. Thing. It's like it's not like she's game. She just doesn't care. Oh, yeah. Okay. So yeah, it's a pretty gangster of her. She's really gangs. You guys have been ten or eleven years now so impressive. So you guys got together. You were you were like thirty two or something. Great fast, man. My age my age, I was thirty two. She was twenty seven. And here's the question. How would ruin you got sober twenty nine twenty nights? You had a couple of twenty nine C would like three years under your belt of good, solid work. Yes. And we're like a much different version of me than other people who are entering into the relationship from thoughtful place. Yes. And not just the sobriety. But also, recognizing my sex addiction, and my love addiction, and all these kind of things that are all external things to regulate. My internal emotion hundred percent. I love you. I'm so flattered you came to see you. I really am when I reached out to you. I was like I can't believe she saying. Yeah, I love you. And I also shared a lot in this situation that I'd have. Shared in other places in it felt really some as you gotta go with your gut and it felt really right safe. Thoughtful understanding yet you urge people to be better. Oh, well, thank you. So I wish everyone could see his overall he is Katie. And now my favorite part of the show. The back check with my soul mate. Monica Padma n-. Gee was bland it by the facts read, the lag deuce new the runner, and that blonded by the facts Shionogi gonna fund the truth. She gonna make it through. Again. The the end is not there beginning is they're getting is definitely there. It's a rive. And sometimes you're going to settle for the beginning. Yeah. That's the thing that the the last teen minutes, you, no kidding. It's fine. It's day was coming right. What we jobs. Yes. I'm pretty dependable. Pretty dependable fifty five zones in whatever for on this on this show on the show. I'm pretty dependable not today. You know, we were wondering when I'd have one of those days where I could just barely do this on the day that we need to really barrel because to give you a little peek behind the curtain or leave in Krakow asks in the morning. The sand dune save a place place on planet earth in there. So much to do and I was out of town yesterday and this morning and now there's three vehicles at need fuel. There's a lot of stuff. I gotta make a lot of spaghetti. What do you gotta do? And I got a pack that much to pack. What am I what should I pack packing mckanie? No, okay. Pasties no mega J A ninety. No. Is it going to be cold? They're very warm. It is gonna be about ninety in the daytime sixty seven at night yet can be hot a Shia. So don't bring snowsuit moon boots. Although bring moon boots has virtually what clogs are gloves. We wear eggs out there in the dunes says a nice wide footprint in it helps keep you on top of the sand. I don't wear unfortunately, why not I wear so embarrassing. I can't even talk you're saying glasses at night. No. I heard that song other day. Did you get so excited? Oh, wonderful. I don't have a I have age Naric version. Unlike Ukel trusted brand from high school. Oh my goodness. They're very old yet because I don't wear and life trust him into what a high quality product is that the rubber has disintegrated. Not if you're right. That's the best way. But I don't wear them. Only were the last of the sand is warm high school shar. Yeah. Even then it was sad. It's sad. It was a rip off of the thing. That was my whole life. I hear you. That's why I have things that are not rip off versions. Now's right. Because you really want him as a kid. You didn't get him. He actually goes back fact jagged again, she's run in round in round you go back. Check do it again that steely, Dan, you know, I love barely nine. Okay. So you talk about rusty's speech, that's Paul rust. That's right. Paul Russ star of love star of love, which we love. Yeah. We watched the first season, Paul Rosser, so cute. Oh, he so cute like him so much unique. He is. And he comes from the UC beep. And he wrote a very nice speech that made you feel all teary really did man. He was talking about Leslie made them feel cool. That's. It's really nice amoral part of their speech publicly. Being super complementary because you're also not like verbatim. You're just saying why the full speech went you made me feel so cool. Because normally I don't feel cool because I don't have any testicles. Oh, tail do you think I'm saying anything he would object to? He doesn't care people know his Tanel people pretty much already know that about him. Okay. Good K another person that we don't give last. We don't give Flonase Jemima Jemima Kirk gray from girls. That's right. She's from girl. She's from girl. She's from tiny furniture. She's from narcotic family share. I wanna get down to the beginning of all people knew it was Jemima Kirk. But just in K, if you wanna look her up, she so pretty big round is I generally like there was a conversation about how to love somebody like giving them what they need versus what you you are expecting, you know, Matt of love or what you need out of love might not coincide with what they need. We talked about that. And then that made me think of the love languages, and then I wonder did we already talk about love languages before. And who's a matter? I know that can recycle here. We can I've needed to hear many concepts multiple times before I got them that this is one that so abstract that requires repeating we can't set an expectation for selves that were never gonna everything as can be new on her will die will die then ourselves. No, don't I might love languages languages five of them. Do you know what they are gift-giving sane love you or affirmations formation linking people food acts of service of translated all of these in disarming L. That's so funny. Okay. Have done three of the five. I don't think I have the other two. I don't even know that I had the first three. But well, I think you kind of are one of the ones you haven't said one of maybe dying. Lover physical touch. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And is that is one and quality time is the fifth. So what do you think you are? What do you think you give sometimes at the same? I mean, again, probably wrong. I think physical touch and quality time or things that I value very highly try to you know, I think you'll when you come into the house. I don't just go like high and my walk past you. I stop what I'm doing. And look at you. And I say how are you doing what's going on? Yeah. If we're going to interact. I wanted to be present and quality. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's one always groping you too. As you would tossed off the same time. It's like how are you all through until VO? Tune in Tokyo. No. I don't know what any tune in Tokyo ally. No. Because you just did a hand gesture, but I've never heard them. John Hughes movie sixteen candles. I think there's something about they wanna play. Tune in Tokyo, it's like high school kids, and they wanna like and people. Yeah, I'm putting both hands in front of me with my fingers, splayed twisty my hands like twisting knobs on a radio to tune in Tokyo's like operating a ham radio. That's what the young boys wanted to do to set it breasts onto tune in Tokyo. Yeah. Wow. Never tuned in her tone. You know, we'll be clear reach Tokyo. Oh, I wasn't finished talking about that love languages languages. We got really distracted by physical touch one ears gift-giving. Yeah. Forgiving though, not really receiving don't like for you in order to feel loved you. Don't need to be receiving thoughtful gifts now, but mom gives you thoughtful gifts all the time when she does. How does that few? Kristen. Oh, my mom, your mom. Mom, your mom. Your mom. Not your mom when my mom gives me, the generally crazy thought gifts, I love it yet. You feel super loved I two I do feel like someone's hearing me try. Yeah. Paying attention to our you know, it's weird. Like, I think maybe it's because I'm good at that that when somebody else's good at it too through it. No, I says nothing deceit there. It's all wonderful. And it is so thoughtful a nice, but I'm not like, I don't I don't think I feel it in the same way. So I agree with you in that. I'm not a crazy thoughtful gift giver? So then when I receive a gift that was crazy thoughtful, you've given me some Christmas giving me some it's extra powerful because it's it's outta my skills stack this person really did something I can't even do for me. Eggs actly. Yeah. Yeah. I also not unlike when I tune in your Tokyo. I can't tune in Tokyo hope y'all on here. Yeah. I give gifts for sure. And I think I need. All of them all of them. Okay. But now, I think I need really hard. I really do kind of feel like I like all I need all of them. I mean, everyone needs all of them. That's why they're there. But it's like, what do you respond to the most you know, what I don't really need acts of service. Well, that's a bummer 'cause that's merrily homes in you that love you is. I'm not going. Well, no, yes. Well, it's one in with the truck to pick out a bed. I know I love that. I want that. And then I go to the best buy and pick out a TV was actually, Costco. But a Costco, pick out some TV's with you put him up in your house. Actually, I'm wrong. I do love that. I do need it. I I do all the loves. Yeah. Anyway, I just think I think it's interesting because I think other people are better at diagnosing, sometimes better at diagnosing your stuff than you. Oh, I think most of the time they are. But also, I think the I think the most important thing about the love language thought process isn't to say like what you do or don't love or whatever. But it's more importantly to go like, oh, this is something I value ton. So then when the person doesn't do it back to me, I'm assuming they have the same right wine would so I'm assuming they don't love me in you, probably missing some other way, they're demonstrating their love for you. But it's not the one that you give. So you kinda miss it. Yeah. I mean, that's that's like half. Right. And then the other half is. So what is the thing that they respond to an I can try to be better about giving that. Yup. Yup. Absolutely. Okay. I don't want Chris to stop giving gifts. Okay. 'cause I. I really like those won't you like that. We talk a lot about mental health on this episode of Wadi lot too much now. Okay. Good amount. You allots? Was it was it was a lot. It was. But in a great is great. It's good to talk about it. And that's what we talk about. Always. But I remembered when I was listening back I remembered one time, I was listening to this panel of the mad men cast one of the actors on there is French. I wanna say he's European and he don't know how they on the subject, but they started talking about happiness, and he was like Americans are so obsessed with happiness as a destination my paraphrasing better happiness as a destination and the French. I think it was the French don't see it like that. They see happiness as like n another emotion, that's transient that you come in and out of and it's in so you there's a lot less depression because depression comes from not achieving this permanent level of happiness on Maddox PEC patients xactly, but really that's not no one can do that. It's not. Permanent. Stay leading feeling. Exactly. You're right. I find myself striving for all happiness. Yeah. Yeah. I the best you can strive for his content nece Neapolis sustainable, the Neo little peaks of happiness little valleys of sadness. Fujii's over there in Tokyo. Tune in see what they're saying. You know? Yeah. Yeah. And it all informs the other sadness informs happiness number one time. I told you I'm not afraid to be sad. I told you that. I don't know if it's still true. But she's in this new movie Manson's, so interesting. Oh, the Quentin Tarantino film once upon a time in Hollywood. That's what it's called for Natalie would now who knows his tend to stick as true. He has titles. Literally the best titles of any writer ever get ones. I wanna see I'm so obsessed with the Manson murders. Really? Yeah. Which is kind of a cliche like everyone's obsessive. They're like the most really I'm so into Disneyland. I'm so into talk let so strange. It's so rare the worst thing about me. But when I get a huge paycheck. I'm like love it feels good. I don't know why. But I love a huge when I say this. But okay. Yeah. But anyway, so it's interesting to me is interesting to you, the Manson's incredibly. Yeah. What fascinates me about is the is the primate aspect like the power of the group the power of a leader of the power of status. The power of all these things that kind of bring often on here and see it at its zenith where it's like, you actually convince people to go murder other people because of your mindset point of view and the tools used to become that cult of personality. It's so interesting that we as an animal are susceptible to that. And even people that would imagine they're not would probably be shocked, you know, like Stockholm syndrome. That's fascinating to me that you start sympathizing with your captors and all these different things that are. I think are all weird vessel group animal. Yeah behaviors. Yeah. I know I always always surprised when people are so indignant to end a judgmental about people who get like, quote, unquote, sucked into these colts. Because I'm like, I think everyone is capable of being sucked in yet. Yeah. I think I really am. Woah, Jim, certainly, there's probably a spectrum of how susceptible people are. Yeah. But, but then you have to you have to imagine circumstance. So you have to go like okay now, imagine me on my worst day feeling. The worst about myself in the most directionless I've ever seen. Then I meet one of the most charismatic people of all time happens to coincide with that. And then the sky's the limit. Well, that's I think it's just it's it's whatever, they're whatever. Vulnerability that particular cult is preying on. You know, you get you are more or less susceptible, but they happen all over the place. Absolutely their on air in plain sight. Raj nations were on some level. Very I mean, they were in a coal. Pretty cool call, but regardless it was a Colt. Yeah. Yeah. Do you think you've ever been under the power of somebody? Yeah. You do you don't say that. I hate when I know you don't like save at. So you should you hate it. I thought you didn't use that word. Yeah. One time dachshund I use the word hate all the time. And I haven't said since. Which goes to show that I'm in your call. No, I don't I don't like it. How about that? I don't like. No. Which is so funny that you get like really weirded out by that. Do do is it because you have this podcast. And you get nervous that you really are doing that. No. If it would make your liking me disingenuous. It would mean the thing that we share is mind control and cults first and not just like a genuine friendship. I don't think that's true. I don't think I'm in your call that see some days, I do someday. I don't think I'm in your call disagree with the cult leader quite a bit. I wouldn't call very very outspoken if you really measured like there's an outsider or computer program that was monitoring our conversations the vast majority of Marv disagreements I never that. I keep coming back. I keep going Zoot who's coming back. That's true. Okay. So there's four says five tricks to being better at names. Remembering name Forbes does. Yeah. Great. I four citing. I probably be that we talked about earlier. Yeah. Okay. One meat, and repeat that's an obvious one. Sure mean repeat to spell it out. Oh, does it. I o n o c o a. Sell it out three associate so Joan from jersey. Ooh, little alliteration. I think Anthony does this all the time Monica from make. But you're not from George doesn't have to be factual. But it's better if it is and you can remember two things something about them and their name, right? Yeah. In anthony. Does this all the time? All the time. He always has like a qualifier before the name know, what mine is canasta. I'm okay. I'll report back. I don't think he probably has one for you. Because he probably didn't have a hard time learning your name because it's so unique. Yeah. Okay. For because I'm a co leader. Oh, you said it not me. Okay. Number four make connections. So another way association can be helpless to make a connection between the person you're talking to end someone else. You know, what the same name? I try this all the time. Yes. Because there's a lot of dudes that float in and out of my meaning. Yeah. Then they'll be sitting there on the couch and I'm staring at their face on a Mike. What friend did I connect them to? They don't look like anyone. I know. It's always the weird that is hard. Yeah. More frustrated train. Remember the person? I connected them to then. I would just be. Yeah. Backfire sometime K, but in my work for other people. Okay. And five is really. I mean, this is what all boils down to choose to care. I don't buy that one. I do you can make yourself care. Well, I mean can you make yourself care? Well, what happens for me? I find the reason I'm not good at it. Because I'm good at remembering I'm not good at hearing it the first time because I. I'm too in my head during the introduction that I don't hear their name. And then I won't ask again. Right. I feel too ashamed ashamed. Yep. To save. What was your name again? Oh, I can't do it. So then I just never know. I'm surprised the thing I brought up was in there because I just in my own experience. I would have said I was incapable of learning a hundred people's names a month. But when I was directing and I needed something from every person. Boy, I've never had easier time. Yeah. What blows me away his teachers? They don't need shit from those kids, and I'll walk in these classrooms day to in these teachers know all the kids names, I'm blown away. 'cause if no status thing there, you can't do anything for them other than I guess they got to get them to behave. Hey, fuck, whatever with red hair. All whatever. Your name is great great t shirt stubby glue may because you do need to you need you need to Carl on them. So you do also there's a repetition and you get used rather. Also all sitting in the exact same spot every day. So the visual you hope that's true. They can they can pull. Yeah. That's it that we also talked put the Nuremberg ring been there really put who cares hairs. That's all. Yeah. That's all. Okay. Great while I love you. And I can't wait to hit the road with you tomorrow knee. Either will get to listen to some podcasts. That's my favorite part about driving to the dunes. Is we get to see what else is going on fun? Yeah. All right. Love you.

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Schools Closing? Kids At Home? Try This Great Educational Trick!

Ron Paul Liberty Report

08:12 min | 5 months ago

Schools Closing? Kids At Home? Try This Great Educational Trick!

"Hello everybody and thank you for tuning in today. I'd like to talk a little bit about homeschooling and some of the crisis that we're facing in our school system throughout this country the schools are being closed down. I they're over reacting. There's a historian going on metairie closing down. That kids are at home and who knows how long this will be in. The college is closed down. I have a grandson to can't graduate because of a suspension of of classes and the graduation ceremony. So I think is very serious. Course take the position that I don't think the The Corona virus is nearly as serious as some of the complications but With me today is Damian Adams. Who of course you know? Because he's our co host but he's also some Hayes had some personal experience with home school and he's not worried of his school closing down. He has got kids and they're getting home school. And that's what we want to talk about. Of course I've been involved in home schooling for awhile and we want to visit with you shortly Daniel. Yeah you know what I'm seeing off to. Paul people are worried am seeing on facebook and other social media. Parents are feeling anxiety because the kids are home. They may have center kids off to school and not really thought about lesson. Plans and education. Funding kids are probably watching a lot of cartoons. Whatever THEY DO VIDEO Games appearance are getting tired of it? They do understand that. The kids need to start studying but they really don't know how to go about it. That's why we kind of had the idea that maybe there's something that we can do to help. Take some of the anxiety out of having your kids home. Yeah and In the program. It's nothing I really believe in because I want to do this long term because I've never been very happy with our government school system but really there's a lot of other people aren't very happy with the government system to because they would agree with us in many ways that this might be over. He'll as far as causing on everything. Because the argument of Haciendas The Corona Var is still still up for discussion that anyway the New People are frightened about what to do. And I I started the The program the homeschooling program up the home run off curriculum shortly after other congress and Tom Woods and accurate north or very instrumental in. Isn't they have a have a good program? So I'm very pleased with that and We have a significant number of people. They got the thinking. Under these circumstances there might be some other people I think will. Home scoring is is the way to at least consider unlearn about it. And that's what I wanted to visit with you on because there's so many disadvantages of what we're going through now. Of course the disadvantages. You had jerk this being home-schooled long time before you had to have the corona virus and you are. I think interested in more academically of what was happening and getting getting a good education for for your kids. So this is this is something. That's not going to get better fast. I thought you should have never occurred to this extent because the Koran of ours has not proven to be Anything compared to influenza. You know as far as the danger go. But you know this program Is Unique is lower. Little bit different. There's a lot of videos to watch. It's it's Something that students can operate on their own They don't need a whole lot of supervision from from the pair and it's been very popular you know for the people have used it and that's that's one of the good things to offer folks when they have their own they don't know what to do. Wrong Hawker Hurricane. Lem The thing that we we have used it to us at long the things. That's that's do the great things about it the first of all it's scalable. It's not all in or all out in on for our son. For example we use it as a supplement in his other education. He took some courses at the college. He did some courses with his mother. Any did some Ron Paul curriculum courses. So it's very scalable is very good thing but in the second thing is especially when the kids get a little older not even that much older. It's ninety eight percent self taught so the parents. My wife was busy teaching our younger two. She didn't have to worry about lesson plans. And all of this with with our son because it self taught in kids are so used to youtube videos. These days that it's very easy for them to get into an a tell you what. My son was very reluctant to start writing soon as he started studying with Gary North and Tom Woods to great masters really great educators. He was writing. He was off the off the rails riding constantly so it does help students a lot. And that's why we really want to visit the audience and tell them this might be something you want to look into and who knows you might want to do it permanently. That's right you know A few months ago yes it is now that I did a couple of aren't you? It was very excellent students. Not as very pleased will because I I don't deal with the students on a day-to-day basis. And I did a couple interviews. I will make them available so after we finish here. They clipped on the oral CDs interviews. There were one young man and while you're young lady and I'll tell you what they were really good you know. What are the concerns? I hand at what two about home schooling before I knew about it was one socially they'll never adjust and I found out as I was on the campaign trail it was the home. School kids were very well adjusted. I stand up and ask questions like adult and the other thing. That Arfan was very much into sports. I think oh you're willing. They'll never meet other kids. They won't do anything politically. Your kids actually get out and do athletic things and they INSA corporations. It's a different image. I ever had the first time I came cross home school. It was in the eighties. They were trying to close it down in still fear that too. And that's why the program that I wanted was one that was designed not for a religious narrow essays but a message of liberty. We're everybody could have a home schooling with a what. So they know and understand the freedom philosophy economic policy the Federal Reserve the foreign policy. And so it's it's very generalize in that sense but not narrow but that doesn't rule out and we don't think people should want to have have a home school that teaches much more narrow. Since that's the way the schools originally started you know in early history. They had a religious connotation to it and they were small groups and one room schoolhouses and it was quite a bit different so I I do hope that as we finish that People will click on especially watch some of these interviews and I think that the program that you mentioned that There's quite a few lessons that you can take. If you're interested to see what lessons lichner forty seven suggestion programs in there. Yeah you know you didn't really interesting things that there's nothing stopping you from forming. Skoko off using the Ron Paul Kurkim. After you know people that do that so you can join together with the kids and so we would just encourage people. Just Click on one Paul Curriculum Dot com have a look have a look at what's offered look at how much they have on sampled and try out and is Dr Paul Mention. There's a very special program. Rpc STUDY SKILLS DOT com. And we'll have listen the description to these and to the to the top the pulse but the RPC study skills. Dot Com will is is a series of forty seven lessons to help teach kids how to study in how to read in this completely free. So what what are you have to lose? Give it to try right right. Very good at Daniela's nice visiting with you because you had experienced that too. I have to tell you that There was a time when outswing it didn't exist when I was raising our kids and all but I'm a strong believer in it and something WanNa promote and something. That is very long lasting. I WANNA thank everybody the tune in today for this a special review of homeschooling and the conditions that we're facing today in our educational system. Please come back soon.

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ICYMI - Malcolm Jenkins on Leading the Eagles on and off the Field

The Daily Show with Trevor Noah: Ears Edition

09:19 min | 1 year ago

ICYMI - Malcolm Jenkins on Leading the Eagles on and off the Field

"You're listening to comedy central. Please welcome malcolm jenkins to the show for the first. Thanks i congratulations to times super bowl champion sir that doesn't amazing achievements have as a human being and you did it two teams that were winning and for the first time i was watching the game tom brady was all most people think about your on the defense right you seeing tom. Brady is is the myth as frightening as the man or you just like uh-huh this now you gotta get over the facade. You know if you wanna be tom brady. A lot of people fall for the trick but i've had the pleasure of playing against tom a lot in the whole year was we didn't care who lined up against. We're gonna do you know whatever we do. We might show up have fun talking tires <hes> and they win games. You know no matter who is on the field. Obviously we've got a lot of respect for him. He's he's by far. The greatest quarterback never played a game. The mini can't get beat right. Yeah you win the super bowl and then you watching the fans celebrate in the streets by burning burning philadelphia down. You want to be like you guys know we one are you like. Did you not so right after the game. I'm on feel cameras on your face and you know what do you want to say the eagles fan. I'm just trying to get back to phillies. I know the city is literally on fire by the time we got to the locker room. The pictures are rolling in couches cars <hes> but you know it's been a long time. Coming and phillies owes us celebrate how we want to sell hoffman in your business. It's it has been a really momentous year for your team for yourself in particular because what's been really interesting in following your story is not just what you'd be doing on the field but what you'd be doing off the field as well the name malcolm malcolm jenkins has become associated with activism that has really been moving forward. You've been making progress in the game. You protested <hes> during the national anthem by raising a fist and people were like what is different to taking taking a knee. What what will you protesting about. The biggest thing was is the same topics is colin kaepernick and what he start about. We're talking about police. Brutality sys systematic as the matic pressing oppression like criminal justice system <hes> the unequal education all these things that played black and brown communities <hes> the the reason i chose to raise my fist is because i saw what happened with collins protested immediately got turned into protests against the anthem right military because nobody really new gesture men interesting but when you look at history <hes> tommie smith and john carlos everybody understands what the fists me right and what what type of issues we're talking about so just keep things on subject and not allow my narrative to be in a misconstrued right. That's why i chose that that <hes> gesture over anything and and and you you went out and you did something you know which is which is interesting to see so many n._f._l. Players have come together and said we're going to do beyond just talking. You said you would title hashtags ashed tags. You were just talking about it so you set about creating the players coalition with your fellow n._f._l. Players and you got to commit from committing from the n._f._l. For one hundred million dollars to help grassroots movements in black and brown communities and underserved communities. That's that's an amazing achievement. How did you figure out where you wanted the money to go and what you i needed to do on the ground. The big thing is we have been doing work. You know long before this. The protests started in in even simultaneously and so once once we got to this past summer twenty seventeen <hes> we had an opportunity to sit down with league officials in show them what we've been doing. This was our plan and this is what we're trying to get accomplished and invited them to come and see what it is that we've been making so much noise about right we have roger goodell come to philly along with owner jeffrey lurie and we took them around. I spoke with the police. We went to bail hearings and just watched howard criminal. Just system works. We talk to the public. Defenders went to germantown in philadelphia. Elvia sat with a group of grassroots organizers and got to hear these stories face to face and got the show them. This is what we've been. We've been talking about <hes> in and through those conversations and having other guys join and being organized we were able to sit down at a table and really shocked the league as far as our prepare pair news and commitment. They've kind of come to the table as well. We committing dollars as well as a platform for us to to really amplify voices not only with the money because the money is cool but money's never changed anything right we want to we really wanted their platform to be able to educate our fan base. We really wanted their legislative. <hes> help to be able to push you know on on the people that actually have control over the change that we wanna see and this really was a three sixty approach because i ah like that you didn't just talk to people who were <hes> victims of criminal justice system that is oppressed them. You also spoke to police you you engage with police and talk to to them about how to get involved with the community on grassroots level you you were working with people who cannot afford to pay bail and haven't committed a crime but have been you know held up in the system them for a long time when you look at the progress that you've made the wrist a long way to go but what are some of the things you've looked at and gone. Oh wow i company that we've done this as much this journey or the biggest thing the most proud thing for me i think most proud about is being able to activate so many mini athletes. We've seen one offs in the password one guys kind of standing on a mantle right by myself but you know we we've been engaging with over sixty current and former n._f._l. So players that are all in some fashion been engaged in these issues and we're able to not only talk about it on a national standpoint from a local standpoint and so we're able to focus on you know district attorneys races all over the country you got boston. Dallas san diego san antonio all have raises this year and so when we talk about changing our our bill system casteel system we're five hundred thousand people any given night are in jail not because they committed a crime but because there are too poor to get out right they can't buy their freedom change changed that and you talk about mass incarceration juvenile sentencing. We're still treating kids like adults right in a lot of states and so the fastest way to approach i added to to pay attention to the district attorney's racist and now we have guys and all of these different markets who can speak to their fan base who can mobilize their fan base and talk about these these things talk about the stories and the people that impact and a lot of times we c._d.'s is black and brown issues right. They are but most of them affect everybody. They cost tax dollars. One in every three people over age eighteen in this country has some kind of criminal record whether we arrest record law record and that's black or white is not matter who you are and so those things costing us you know as a society is not making any saver is not is not improving anything so i think holistically as we continue to teach until these stories <hes> hopefully we can activate arfan basin and really gets a movement wow. It's amazing work that you're doing about <hes> when you look at the super bowl is one thing that comes with its <hes> when you're a champion and that is you are meant to get an invite to make the president of the united states at the white house. Now the eagles have yet to receive the official invitation but you you have said that you you would not go to the white house to meet the president's so so the reason i said and for me. I've won the super bowl before so i i kind of know what that is like. <hes> it's a celebratory event. You know you go. We're we're in a big role. In the president comes in you shake his hand. We take a few pictures. They leave rights all right. I'm not interested in a photo personally but what i've always been open to what we've been doing. We've taken multiple chips to the hill <hes> to speak be you know to people who want help with criminal justice reform and all the different things that we've been fighting for that. I'm interested in so if the president said come to the white house malcolm jenkins and then we can have a discussion on criminal justice reform such. Would you go if it was serious in nature than yeah you even have a piece of paper and a malcolm jenkins. I hear you thanks so much for being on the show more check out the nothing jason dot org nothing jake the daily show with kurbanov yours addition watching the show weeknights at eleven ten central on comedy the central and the comedy central watchable episodes and videos at the daily show dot com follow us on facebook twitter instagram and subscribe to the daily show on youtube the two four exclusive and this has been a comedy central podcast.

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Sounds Week Morning Interview

Chompers

04:20 min | 1 year ago

Sounds Week Morning Interview

"Chompers is produced by Gimblett and sponsored by crest and oral B. Good morning. It's time for chompers your morning in nineteenth brushing show today. Arfan jasmine is here with a special interview. He jasmine take it away. Mix. Start brushing in the top of your mouth on one side and make sure to get the molars all the way in the bathroom three to one. It sounds week. So today, we're talking to someone who knows a lot about sound, Marcus. Hi, I'm Markus. And I'm the audio engineer for chompers. And what is an audio engineer? Do an audio engineer is someone who works with recorded sounds. So if we're talking about Trumpers, I take all of the sounds that make up an episode of choppers. So the switch bells and all the talking and all the farts towns. Music, and I put it all together and kind of get it ready. So that when you listen to it at home. It sounds the way that it does. Switch to the other side of the top of your mouth and don't brush to hard. What are some of the different ways that you play with sounds? So sometimes in chompers, we want to change the way that the voices sound to sort of suggest a space. So if you wanna make it sound like somebody's in a big cave. We'd use this affect that's called Weaver. And it sounds like this. So it sounds like my voice is echoing off walls. And it makes me sound like I'm going to. Switch to the bottom of your mouth and make sure you're brushing the inside outside and chewing side of each. Okay. So you said that you take all of the parts sounds and bells and stuff. So what are those sounds called? So those sounds are called the sound effects, and we use sound effects to help tell the story. Right. So if the story that were telling takes place at a baseball game we want to find a sound that'll put you out of baseball game. So maybe we take you know, the sound of the ball hitting the back. And then a crowd clapping. Those sounds make you feel like you're out of baseball game. Switch to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and give your tongue brush to. So Mark is you make a lot of the music that we use. Why do we even use music on chompers sui use music to help bring the story to life and help you feel what the story is about? So if we're telling a story, that's really happy. We might want have happy music, right? Might be music. That's really fast and exciting. Maybe something like this. And if we're telling a story about a mystery, maybe we'd put spooky music. It's helping you feel the story. That's chompers today. A comeback tonight. When our friend Marcus helps us make music with sounds that you hear every day until then three. Three two one. Chompers is a production of Gimblett media. Hey champions. Are you a poet? But you don't even know it come up with your own poem and ask your grownup to send it to us at chompers dot dental. We might use your poem on an upcoming episode of chompers grownups. That's chompers dot dental jumpers is brought to you by crest and oral B. Grownups Valentine's Day is upon us. So what that means grabbing cards for your little ones classroom crush. And of course, all that candy lots of candy. That's why it's so important for kids to develop good oral care habits to stop sugar and its tracks with dentist recommended brushes and toothpastes and flavors kids. Love like strawberry and bubble. Gum. Your kids can embrace that sweet tooth while brushing away the bad stuff. No, one loves cavities. So this Valentine's Day, protect your kids. Healthy smiles with crest and oral B.

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Sen. Chris Murphy on why America's Syria failure goes beyond Trump

Worldly

31:18 min | 10 months ago

Sen. Chris Murphy on why America's Syria failure goes beyond Trump

"Our show today is sponsored by babble the language learning APP that will get you speaking a new language quickly and with confidence babble offers fourteen different language courses with Venus lessons that are only ten to fifteen minutes long and if your worldly listener you probably want something like this learning new languages is well worldly and because you ah detainment but also we take our foot off of the proverbial paddle when it comes to the Anti Isis offensive it's all bad news for us in the region right now and in the long run it ruins our credibility as a partner who was GONNA be willing to sign up to fight terrorism with the United States if there Russia and Iran and the three of them will be empowered along with Isis who will be allowed to reconstitute as fighters escape talking about Syria trump's move what the senator thinks about it and then how all of this might even tie in to progressive foreign policy sanctions that the trump administration has already begun to implement we are going to push Turkey further into an access with can foreign policy history the aftermath of this is hard to understand obviously we have humanitarian catas- subject to this kind of treatment and of course it's all so tragic because it was avoidable I mean trump has been telegraphing he wanted to take our troops out for years she playing out in front of our eyes right now we've pushed the Kurds into the hands of bizarre Al Assad and if Congress moves forward with hey everyone it's Alex Ward I'm the not Jen Zach member of the worldly trio and here were in a way that Turkey could live with that was difficult but not impossible in the fact that the trump administration didn't even try to work out a political solution troops from Syria and the aftermath that we've seen it's absolutely diabolical I don't know that we've seen a double cross like this at least in recent part of the Fox media podcast network we're doing a series on progressive foreign policy. I was scheduled to speak with Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut He's a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and a major champion makes this moment so hard to comprehend so just in your mind removing troops in of itself was not necessarily a wrong so let's not Belabor the point anymore let's get right to my interview with the Senator Senator just right off the top your thoughts on trump's decision to withdraw that's B. A. B. B. L. Dot Com and enter Promo Code worldly for six full free month's babble speaking new language with Governor and you're going to love the second season of Fox's Netflix show the show's called explained in every episode is a fifteen to twenty minutes deep dive into one important topic Syria Turkey started to come in our allies against Isis. The Kurds Allenwood Syrian President Bashar Assad northward and it's a mess so we started off Ian of defining what progressive policy looks like and then Syria happened in case you haven't been following you need to know is president trump withdrew American troops from north so this week the topic is costs I got an early preview and watching it made me think about colds a lot more in a new way it's it's a must watch episode of digs am to members of Jonestown the most provocative things it's connection to religion as Ostlund says the episode Colt Plus Time Equals Religion and it's narrated by the actor leaky stand into the way that they lure people in how you can get regular people to do horrible things when they join cults it features numerous former cult numbers from next revisionist history at some point we need to have a real reckoning with policy that has gone wrong under both Democratic and Republican Administration has concerns were addressed but again what is so difficult to stomach is that trump didn't really try to work out those concerns he didn't try and if that was the case then he should have been doing the diplomatic and political work in northeast Syria to try to come up with a governance structure in which you could have Kurdish control of that region Alyce many people could disagree on that but for some folks that's a fine thing to do but it's the way in which it was done and not trying to make some sort of diplomatic solution or agreement while troops were there air as leverage for us to try to work out a political solution so our Kurdish partners were protected and that the legit covert sometimes overt support to the Syrian rebels was to just prolong the misery prolong the civil war and then in northeast area while I think we were smart to not throw tens of thousands of American troops at Isis and rely instead on our Kurdish partners even during the Obama Administration we sometimes only had it's really the the sin in your mind yeah I'll do that anyone envisioned America having two thousand troops in Syria for the next twenty years they were there such crippling sanctions on Turkey that we effectively end our security partnership with them we do have a security partnership with them we have at the foreign policy establishment that is trying to pretend right now that everything was going great in Syria until trump pulled are two thousand troops out and that is all twos pretty damn great make sure you check it out by searching for explained or Vauxhall nut likes going straight to net flix dot com slash explained that's Netflix dot com slash explained a dollars and forces to NATO missions so there are important strategic alliances between us but I would rather us be able to step limit security concerns of Turkey about the interactions that the Kurds in Syria have with the PK this terrorist group that very powerful weapons that are at our disposal inside Turkey we do cooperate on many anti-terrorism initiatives they do contribute we have always been under the belief that half measures in Turkey could work we gave just enough support over the course of the last four running for their lives and everyone that is our adversary in and around that region has benefiting was trump this point so I think that's a question we have to ask right now and one of my worries is that in our anger hi to fix the political problem in northeast Syria and he pulled a American support with absolutely no warning to anyone so that our troops are run walk an optional battery to keep your charge I have used all of those features my away suitcases yes that is away suitcases plural because I love away so much ended in all fairness perhaps a difficult hand here I mean of course Syria by itself was complex but also President Obama did follow a strategy there are plenty of times in which American policy has been at odds with other NATO allies right there are other members of this alliance that have not followed US long run but he didn't get handed a really good set of cards here and before we talk about possible other foreign policy approaches and alternatives I do want to ask over what trump did to the Kurds we are going to essentially answer that question by default by leveling can directed question at us do sit on Senate foreign relations obviously Turkey is a NATO member and ally but is it really an ally of the United States allies with the Kurds which of course was always going to rankle Turkey and so this sort of withdrawal was never really going to be that clean to begin with so I think there's an eight years to the Syrian rebels that they could keep the fight up against Assad but never enough support that they could actually win and so the result of our sometime is never one in which you have to unconditionally agree with the United States' position on every issue the Turks have gotten pretty far afield at this point which requires us into battle overseas that have openly disagreed with the decisions that we've made unimportant strategic questions to the United States and so we have to admit that the alliance one single State Department representative in that portion of the country thus essentially guaranteeing that we're never going to be able to come up with a political settlement are Syria Policies Jack and make a decision thoughtfully about whether Turkey should be inside or outside of NATO rather than making that decision because we are angry flash broadly and use Promo Code worldly at checkout this is advertiser contact not really at trump and Turkey at the same time but just to be clear you at least think Turkey's status as an ally or not as a NATO ally but just as an American with new technology workers can inspect underground pipes at nearly microscopic levels teams can use drones equipped with imaging cameras or smart sensors this is leading the world and producing natural gas and oil while reducing emissions at the same time in some cases production grew by triple digits while emissions fell by four broken for a really long time what trump has done is to wrap up our physical presence there in a way that is going to do grave damage to our national security interests in the law forty to seventy percent so why is that innovative industry-driven technology take inspections a crucial part of managing the supply chain step back and ask some tougher questions this episode is sponsored by away traveling is an amazing way to experience the world great for twenty dollars off the suitcase visit away travel dot com slash worldly and use Promo Code worldly at checkout again for twenty dollars off the suitcase visit away travel dot com thanks to technology it's now safer cleaner and easier your world world explained today the together data even in the most remote locations data scientists can then use the data to make predictive models for simulate real world experiences ally is a questionable it is questionable and it's more questionable than anyone else in the NATO alliance but we also have to admit that the train and equip program for others inside that coalition bits of humanitarian aid here and there none of it worked it all just served so issues can be caught before they have all of this helps make the industry safer and more sustainable learn more about how the natural gas and intervention there and so they proposed these half-measures a little bit of covert support for Syrian rebel a Defense Department run actually work out when you implement them and Syria to me is this perfect example in which the foreign policy establishment just could not mart people are paid money in this town to propose American led interventions plans that often look decent on paper but don't and I do want to chat with you now because you've been very vocal for quite some time that not just on Syria but on multiple issues that America has been going about foreign policy through which the United States can have impact and you know sometimes they're not wrong there are lots of problems around the world that do have an American solution the best out of your travel experience having a battery in your suitcase when you're constantly low and phone charged it's really really really useful with a one hundred day trial go back and forth between the public sector and the private sector who make a living off of concocting interventions around the World Arfan of the show Babbel has a special offer for you sign up for three months and they'll give you an additional three months for free just use Promo Code worldly at Babbel Dot Com so imagine you're inspecting an oil pipeline the terrain is rugged roads nonexistent and the pipe goes on for miles to difficult job oil industry is working towards responsibly developing the nation's resources at power past impossible dot org ain't is a policy and it's hard I think for many people who work in foreign policy in the United States to get their head wrapped around that why have this which there are exceptions I just think it has to be about deploying different kind of assets other than the United States military right now that's the only card Dan for the idea that the United States couldn't fix what was going wrong in Syria and yet they knew the American public wouldn't support a massive military the the main characteristics and then we can start digging deep into that so it was an icy progressive foreign policy as anchored in the idea that America does have and a limited lifetime warranty you also can try away suitcase risk free and if you decide it's not for you which I don't think you will to clear you can return for a full refund or replace are strong they're useful they're big they're size so you can carry them on in some cases and they really really efficiently allowed often when we throw around that weight it does more harm than good and so tell me then how you came to not only just start critiquing the the establishment I mean you mentioned of course Middle East Policy I'm sure there are other examples but then maybe start to define how you view what you say is a progressive foreign policy all wrong you did mention early on when we're talking Turkey you mentioned there's this thing called the foreign policy establishment can you find that for me what is this establishment that you seemed but there are plenty of problems especially political ones in the Middle East that don't have a solution that's led by the United States and yet very prolong that conflict and so I do worry that there is this hubris leftover about what America can achieve in the Middle East sometimes restrain massive national security infrastructure a military intelligence budgets that's twenty times that of most other nations if you're not gonNA use if you're not going to throw it around the not all too pleased about you know well there's there is a a a group of think tanks in this town a group of individuals have a role to play for good in the world so progressive our policy is not about drawing back and is not about seeing restraint as the rule we have to play in most places around the world I and so what I've argued for and I wrote this down on a piece for the Atlantic a couple of weeks when it comes to suitcases away has taught everything their carry-ons coming to size and shell options and have ingenious features the laundry bag a built-in TSA proved Combo go is that a Democratic presidential candidates especially those who fancy themselves as progressive need not just talking about a different philosophy than that's who either can protect themselves or have protection attached to them who could be in conflict zones actually working out the political problems on the ground in a way that trump needs to be talking about different capabilities Take for instance Syria what we're missing is this hybrid class of diplomat Warriors Diplomat Fox dot com slash twenty twenty podcasts. That's vox dot com slash twenty twenty podcasts of pro democracy pro human rights tools around the world that we simply don't have today and then allowing a democratic and progressive regardless of WHO's president regardless of WHO's running American foreign policy the United States doesn't have the necessary toolkit to deal with any problems whether it be Syria China China right we don't have any way to countenance what China is doing to use its technology exports as a way to gain a national security foothold throughout the globe so to do it we're spending four billion dollars on putting troops in eastern Europe if we spent half of that money actually developing interconnections to we don't have a single classification in our foreign service dedicated to fighting corruption the the guy that's fighting corruption in eastern had we asked them back at the late stages of the Obama Administration so I think it's all about more rigorous test for military action developing a sweet the president to be internationalised but just with different options to play different cards to play other than brigades so this from what you just said it seems fact that we have to test for military action that it'd be done through over rather than covert means that it'd be only done with Congressional humanitarian disasters whatever it may be that the US just doesn't have an infrastructure to deal with foreign policy issues of the day we're just not in the game right and I own a Ford by the way so I was I was what are the cards that Russia's really playing around the world today they're involved in old fashioned bribery graft and intimidation they're involved in sophisticated information second guess what you're kind of getting at and I do WanNa get into the ten it's a bit but what you're getting at is that the United States is just not non-russian energy sources for countries in and around their periphery we'd get much better payoff than we are simply investing troop deployments and I could go through the same argument warfare and they're using their oil resources in a gas resources as a political chip we don't really have any capacities to meet those three threats to go to a point you made last September at the council form relations when you said that and I want to make sure I get this right the levers that the president can press to try to protect and advance our interests recite and approval that we know if we're putting military resources on the ground that we're solving a military problem not a political problem all tests that we would have failed in Syria European countries I it probably has six other things that he's doing so we need to have a we've needed to massively upscale anticorruption efforts all around the world if I were Russia's doing has fought the whole way and then we need to not just be giving advice to countries about how to avoid dependency on Russian gas and oil we should actually be putting money on the table I think that's been borne out by the slide away from democracy and human rights protections that we've seen just in the last three and a half years and what's important we need to have real information encounter propaganda resources that we don't today Senator Portman I've been trying to develop a new center in the State Department but trump we just have to staff up these nonmilitary capabilities in a way that we aren't today and if we do we'll be able to fight fire with fire these won't be asymmetric wars any laws rod is basically a one thousand nine eight four tourists on a road that is crowded with shiny new Tesla's an landrovers First of all I don't know what you have against four tauruses years American military intervention around the world but you're calling for almost America's non-military intervention around the world promoting human rights pushing against corruption I mean this would involve sustained the religion they choose this is about self interest as well because places that have more democracies tend to be more stable tend to have carriers they're doing it with non-military capabilities so it almost sounds like what you're calling for is a not necessarily the the past involvement in multiple countries around the world I mean this would be quite a massive effort and lift that ended in a way requires provide less quarter to terrorist organizations as human rights abuses are are more easily perpetuated overseas it becomes more likely that a would be demagogue in the United States will get away with perpetrating those same abuses here at home so if progressives want care about protecting American democracy want to protect Europe because we will have symmetry we will have suite of tools that meets the tools that countries like China and Russia using but they are not frankly winning these battles they are not gaining influence with AIRCR minority rights here at home than we have to fight those battles overseas if we lose them there we're GONNA eventually lose them here and I think I can make the case ultimately the vision that I have for American the only maligning that specific Ford Model Not Ford's Gotcha got but so yeah we're just not in the game right so let's take Russia for example member is that you know this isn't just about our altruistic belief in others having the ability to access self-determination or free speech or the right to practice around the world are trying to get societies to back American policies in certain ways then this is really kind of American say wait a minute this may not be military globalism to use the president's term but this is globalism and everything else right if you're trying to empower The folks who believed a different form of American leadership is that kind of what you're aiming for I I am I mean I'm a believer that the United States needs to be a global presence and and primacy on steroids just without the military component. Listen you cannot isolate yourself today the world is interconnected on a military that doesn't seem to be solving a lot of problems around the world and so we could probably getting be getting a lot better bang for our buck surely you're getting criticism from folks we all know that and so there is no strategy if you're simply only worry about your own country's survival through which you wall yourself off other nations and I also don't think it's an all or nothing proposition I'm not saying that the United States should push human rights everywhere and if nation away from this progressive foreign policy vision that you have is this is America somewhat leading an ideological struggle right democracy versus anti-democratic who say this is the way forward this is the way the world could be better and you can actually get there through less than military means in small d democracy in Russia Aaron China if you are or if you are pushing against corruption in multiple countries if you are making all kinds of deals internal You know the the World Wide Nationalist Movement is interconnected just look at the way that Steve Bannon moves accuracy in human rights a front burner issue with more countries even if we don't win every single argument part of what seems to be sort of the macro taste things that we do business with don't adopt our notion of civil liberties that we cut off relations with them no I'm just saying that it's gotta be a preservation of our American way of life so then just to be clear because there are people who have a misunderstanding foreign policies this really a new from the problems that exist other places in the connections that exist other nations and so I think we have no choice but to be actively engaged in these other in these seamlessly between the nationalist xenophobic movements in Europe and his handpicked presidential candidate in the United States and so if we aren't ultimate S. four deployment is much more cost effective than the one that we have today we're not getting a really good return on our investment right now we're spending six hundred billion dollars a year Europe then we're frankly I would argue making a lot easier for those kind of organizations to then take root and grow to even greater strength in from which we cannot remove ourselves when you're playing with American troops once they're in complicated theater it is difficult avail his own people if we don't create a alternative technologies don't allow for nations or political leaders to be able to steal I it is and I also think we have to see the ways in which these threats that looked to be external are connected to the threats that your information off of the Five G. infrastructure so again I I if you wanna look at this throughout terrific lenses you can but I would also argue that it's essential for the global leader is to dramatically plus up our democracy promotion tools are human rights tools our energy independence tools our anti-corruption tools are anti remove them without telegraphing enormous weakness if you're talking about anti-corruption tools if you're talking about funding for independent media groups take a step back and reassess and go a different route I I think we need to remain a global leader and I think the only way that we remain a forward looking in present conversation in all of our bilateral relationships will win some will lose some but we're better off making tapped back but didn't have to be number one but you're saying that there's a way for the US to remain number one and it's actually this aggressive foreign policy framework instead of actually need we you know helping the Germans fight off the rise of the Neo Nazi party which by the way just commanded nearly thirty percent of the vote in local elections in eastern says that this is not not to say that it's equivalent to the Cold War because it's not but what it is is the United States picking up the man of democracy and and trying to who way for for American global leadership because there are some who would say it's actually way too costly for the United States to lead in the world that actually be more beneficial if the US not necessarily housed in the military too I would dramatically scaled-back our covert military programs the secret training of rebel armies and the Z. decisions using this progressive foreign policy framework. What are the first three you make so I double the non-military national security budget a budget that's not we should do it in a different way that we are today and I think the tools I'm talking about are also much more nimble and much less likely to get the United States involved into quagmires is lateralism just like we invest in humanitarian multi-lateralism and so I would put sort of life back in in NATO and look to open it to the United States the the the pro autocrat technology tools that are being developed today by the Chinese will be there for the taking by an American leader who wants to see in places I think it allows you to more easily throttle up investment and

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40: Vector? I Hardly Know Her!, I Whiz (by Poo Poo Dolls)

"Ignorant Vaudeville fails back up right. Your host Gordon. Let me show you the shape of my heart this week on Pod Bill Vector. I hardly know our and the first ever music house selection selection Welcome to pod Ville. Thanks for joining us for this family. Friendly Variety show. It's been around for a whole year. You're happy anniversary to end me. Indus- together and to everyone who's been listening to us for a year. Our this four man with everyone who's been listening to us for a year here. You know other formats I guess. Hey we've been making this podcast for a holding year. Yeah and by William. It's really it's you uh-huh I talked on it but that's pretty much. Put Your Voice into the little sound hole and we need it do. It's not hope into the microphone as goals in it if he's zoom in close enough and isn't that the case with everything doing close enough there's little holes in it you're gonNA freak out people's whatever phobia be about holes concept that brings the whole world together all the halls trip before any a- that's the fear of Turkey's Oh no trip to fanny fell asleep so much Turkey happy anniversary. It's the most most important anniversary in our whole family. And we were thinking about doing something really special and putting in a lot of effort and time And then decided that that would not be the pod Ville way so regular episode that involves a normal amount of effort. Yeah that's how that means zero. F Yeah I love writing coat-tails I love it. Well we are all pumped up. We were listening to some backstreet boys to get ready and let me tell you those boy bands back in the days. Their songs really slapped. They had it going on even before. Slapping was a thing that we knew songs could do this. Latest discovery of music. How World Ah? I haven't basis always slapped not always not back in the Stone Age Times. All they did was crack boss crack also we are prepared because our low baby is sleeping right now reportedly eh. I mean she's at least far tucked far enough away. No one can hear her scream. We'll see she's asleep. It's been in a bit of a fun adventure the last couple of weeks because everyone here was sick for a while and Our baby forgot how to sleep. Well she forgot how to sleep before that when you are gone. That's true. She just met me so much. She's like I Miss Daddy. I need to stay up until two. Am Yes and so. We're getting her back on track. And what we've discovered is we just need a pumper full of food before bedtime. So she eats up and gets all on their stop and then we plot formula and fill in all the rest of the cracks and gaps inside of her and then she goes into a mill coma and it worked last night it did. We'll see if it works tonight. Yeah that'd be great to two nights of adequate sleep in a row who's ever dreamed of such a thing. Yeah so we're hoping that this This food things the silver bullet so I'm willing to try anything uh-huh extremely willing for extreme measures. Another fun thing that happened recently. Is that our oldest son. Theo turned eight years old. Oh my little boy. To everyone's shock and surprise we managed to keep that boy live for eight years. Ah which is great because this year has been great. He's his ear. I know I for one peaked at the age of Eight. I'm looking forward to this being a great year. And just everything going downhill for the rest of that boys knife you. That's not true you didn't meet me till way later. I'm the best thing of your life. It's true but did you see my golden locks and buff Tan arms. No you didn't didn't you. Were there so you know. They'll be but theo looks like me when I was eight so and win am I. I'm just getting better veteran better. Yeah you're you're you pick the day you die. Yeah grand finale go. That was like well. This is the best they ever. I'll choose I'll choose when I have my a heart attack. It takes me out. This was just the best day ever here. I go go to sleep goodbye world. I'm done so. Theo thought that he might like a sleepover party for his birthday. But I said Nah dog. Let's just do it. We have a little baby. who like asleep over every night? Because nobody ever sleeps on sleepover. It always being in their pants our so instead. We had a late night right where the kids came over and we had dinner and a k kids being a handful of friends. Yeah I guess so. Yeah the kids. Are there too and your kids. Were there and your kids were here. I mean the friends parents parents are in the room right now. So they're always here while we record. They're very supportive and so creepy so the friends came over. We did party things. And then we played the switch until their parents came and picked them up and the last about dawn. Oh boy it felt like the last kid didn't Get picked up until after ten and Theo and his friend. Miles were quite Zombie. Ready to be done well I mean emotionally. They could've should've been done but like mentally they're like no we could go on forever forever forever having so's your good time it's off my gosh all the fighting all of fighting about what games we're going to be played who's GonNa play them and just trying to really say this is a party. You can't just play a one player game or a two player game. Play the Party Games. The friend Ezekiel. Who's like let's play Mario Odyssey like but only two people can play that? That's okay all play it and someone else can play it we. How would you feel if you couldn't play it? That's okay I'll just play it just not willing to engage in my hypothetical and then his other sweet friend Malik just reading reading a book to himself while other kids ran around just doing his own thing and everyone was having a great time. It's fun to see the kids that Theo chooses to like hang around width and seeing them and being like. Oh yes this makes sense in that. There's such different kids from each other but all of them like match up well with an aspect of Ah that's true who does Sara's it was like a whirlwind when when all the kids were there. Wow and then you didn't come home till after the party had been Kenna in full swing for awhile so imagine just started with into but it was great. We had a fun time and now lewke started talking about his birthday. That's coming up in three months. He wants a surprise Pajama Party. We can make that happen for a four year old now. Oh It's GonNa be fun. His Guy Yeah something about mushrooms joke. You'RE GONNA adult. My witty remarks joke joke insert joke here. Not GonNa Bother formulating one for or you. What that sound means? Oh Oh game-time Jayme Time Kathleen this hour hour. We do it very much on our regular schedule and this time we have a brand new game for the very first time ever in the whole world. It's when no one has ever played before you are probably probably because we made it up and we just cannot get away from this naming scheme of games although it is as of a theme like it makes sense that the name this given the game play features which we will describe to you after describing. Its name which is factor. I hardly know her. He so this is along with other versions of this game that we've done previously previously which include Easter. I hardly know her and Thanksgiving. I hardly know her this time. It's vector I hardly know her. What's what's vector at the holiday? Happy Vector had factor well. He's such a Nerd Rain Hail Anyway so those other times we would read the title of Kids Book and we would explain to each other what it was about here. I'm going to read you a list of math and ECON terms. Oh boy and you could explain to us what they mean. I'm going to try my best and then I can tell you what they really are if you want to leave it a mystery or just accept my definition at face value. I'll just tell if it's correct or not. Okay ready and as we all know when it comes to the series of. I hardly know her games. There's no wrong answers. Only boring answers wrong answers so no. I'm so boring well. Let's talk about math then. Well isn't at the same rule with math. There's no wrong answers uh-huh Yup Yup. That's how mathworks and that's why I did so well in all my math classes. It's like it's all this math problem. I'd like to tell you a story. I would prefer to tell all someone story than do math all of your math answers. They're just like a short story. Their story problems. I can story answer. Awesome perfect all right. So the best place to start I think would be with vector. What's a vector Julie? Okay vector to me. What does it mean in your heart? It's an Arrow okay. And some factors point in different directions and some factors are longer than other eros direction magnitude agony Tude. Those are math words that match the word factor. I think yeah. Yeah you're correct. I knew it great great. Yeah so that that's like the physics version of what a vector is and so it's an Arrow Matt size of the tells you the the magnitude in the direction. The era toes either direction liked by physics class. It's probably why I remember that. So the way that I usually use factor is that it's just like a list of numbers And so the vector that you're thinking like a three dimensional vector but then you can do it in n dimensions now. Thanks and UM nobody really cares. Let's move on and for all right when I drop an economics on you already. 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We're likely took a photograph and like drew. Like Ciller is is it somehow got to show them colors. If you're into con artistry. Yeah I wonder we'd have to lay should ask our friend Jordan Reed whose Primo saxophonist how he would feel about one of these colorful con saxophone. How do you feel about colorful instruments? Depends on the instrument. Feel like it was like a saxophone or like something that's like a classic classic type in like a stand up Bass for instance in the corner of our room. This instant I'd prefer dislike have like the the material speak for itself trying to be like too fancy electric guitar all the colors of the rainbow. Maybe I like like if I were to go see big band Kinda situation. Lots of brass instruments. I'd like to see a little color splashed in them. We'll do it. Depends like if all of like the whole section had like different colors. That would be cool if it's like all brass and then like one that's just like some like random color all right all right all right trying to what are you trying to prove. How do you feel about conductors abductors batons and all kinds of colors? Oh if only I mean the the the white stick part in the booby wouldn't put number two woody counterweight handle Dole Dole Messiah was directed with a technicolor. One I'm sure Monte tons and I think you'd be wrong. It's not my job to be right at least in this this area we write about some stuff. Unfortunately yes well. If you're interested in impressing your friends and and being far too ostentatious Get get one of these boys call this number except that have numbers they were sent for more information and there's an address and address for each different the city you can send it to the most relevant one would be most relevant one. Let's see we got one and and New York got in DETROIT WITH OUR NEW ORLEANS IN CLEVELAND CHICAGO SEATTLE AND PORTLAND ONE IN ATLANTA. He's he's out of a now. We have to fight. Let's fight about math. Not about geography. Okay back to all right Julie. What's a matrix? The paychecks checks guys. You can't see it right now but I'm bending completely backwards slowly flailing my arms and I'm shooting tons of bullets. Yeah I'm very impressed. And that makes my gunshots are not murdering you right now. Okay here's OUGHTA matrixes I in my mind. I see a box with lots of little cells in and there's numbers in the cells else and the numbers are related to each other somehow. But I don't remember how you you do things with matrices that I don't remember you. ooh matrices I could say that a multiple oehler mount more multiple multiple flicker way of saying the word Matrix Multiples And isn't there like a symbol for Matrix like. Hey here's the number and do a matrix with this thing. Yes my calculator or matrix operations. Is it like a sideways M. There's I don't know what you're talking about we're talking about. I don't know what I'm talking about. Obviously but yeah. It's really a matrix as just like a you said F numbers like it's like a two by two table of numbers and it can mean all sorts of things and be used for all sorts of things I mean if furthest game you could give me the word set and I wouldn't even know what you're talking about and match. What does this game? I Love double-fault other. Tennis words town is ready for another. Yeah Julie Yes. What's a hyperbole hopeful? No noble well then there's not an Oval Pergola. Okay I see my graphing calculator calculator. I see me trying to make purple on. See me get a grill mad. Because I don't know how to do through it. See My teacher Mister. Simpson disappoint Mr Simpson was Algebra was trigonometry. Who was that who was disappointed in me and triggered who is disappointed in me and sophomore year instead of eighth grade? Uh Okay are you. Sure it's not an oval. Yeah what is it per blah is. It's kind of like a whip. It's it's essentially like some sort of shape and it's if you think of if you had a cylinder and sliced it the shape that it would make doc if you sliced through the so you have the top flat on the top and you slice through in the way that you sliced. It went through that part. Okay the shape that it would make on the side kind of you shape hyper well not not a cylinder a cone cone. That's one that's like. I don't know what you're talking about. Sorry either recently Sections off a conical bit and then those hyperbole okay so let me get from can take cone. What okay take that can take one? uh-huh tells the title point now and now I don't know but you've really intimidated. Whoever saw you squish that candidate Cohn what's important? I just feel like I can. I trust you anymore. Okay take a cone slice it thing out of it and then look at the thing. Okay encountering is three three-dimensional there are lots of ways to slice that baby however you slice it. I think this way this way this way this way. I think however you slice a cone the Cross section of it went up being a lot unless you slice it in so that as a circle. Yeah Yeah so do it. One of the Non Circle ways. That's why you let me see okay. I'm GONNA ask Google Myself. I can't I can't nor should you. What do I know I'm no doctor? I mean at least I did make jerk about Jerking Komo slip much. Joke joke about hyper believe and make a joke joke you big jerk okay. Here's the definition of hyperbole. A smooth symmetrical curve with two branches produced by the section of conical surface. My definition says a symmetrical open curve formed by the intersection of a circular cone with a plane at a smaller angle with its axis then the side of the cone okay. So that's what I said. And then there's some more rules more rules. Keep you from doing this at the circle circle anyway. Essentially it's like any way you can cut a cone that doesn't make a circle in the cross section. Okay Julie. Math breath has rules. Sorry sorry sorry. Upset you big jerk and sorry cones aren't cans. Unless you try real hard you gotta get got room for a few more. Yeah okay about full yet. Hit me hit me with it. All right fractional ooh okay fractional. Yeah break and stuff up into fractions superhero squad situation. Oh no sorry. It's not a gem that can come together and cause destruction shouldn't stuff. Yeah I mean. I know that you studied math at the school of Superhero Squad Superhero high place to be. Everyone's very attractive. That's why I went there super attractive. Fr- ACTA fractions shins. Bits bits of something BITs numbers. Bits and bobs bits of Math things all broken up down at facto rock they there is another day down at facto rock. Uh Dole's I rest my case. Well I for one and moved so Facto is a any self repeating geometric shape that maintains the same shape no matter how far easy men and it's based on a function that is iterative in some way. Some sort of cursive function swirl. Yeah so anything like if you have it just like a function that determines the shape of a thing That you can just plug in any amount of number just goes infinitely in any direction. Infinity your favorite. So like you're saying you could plug in some numbers and it would be small but the same shape you plug in some other numbers and it would be big in the same shape. Yes yes I think that's right doctor. I'm not a fractional doctor. Here we're here. Here's a definition a frontal from something. That's not my brain is a self similar geometric shape one that appears similar at all levels of magnification produced by inequality that undergoes repeated iterative steps or recurs. Well okay in my mind. This is like you hold up to me a can or a cone and you say look at this and then you pull out a microscope and look at it but it just looks exactly the same. I don't get it no. It's it's a more complex. It's Kinda like looking at like a snowflake all the different things However you zoom in? It's the same pattern intern pattern. He say you look at some practice. After this membrane I'll explode go find a new wife. Sounds like a plan. All right sounds good. We're all onboard. Are you ready for the last one. Yeah yes you're ready to be put me out of my misery can be one more all right. Hey Julie what's an identity. It's just it's just who you are inside you know thanks Moulin Identity. I mean was whatever it is it is you know yes. I'm right I'm one hundred percent right yes us. Not Any wrongs about it. So identity is a thing that if you operate on it it returns. The thing that that you're operating with my job is derived so the additive identity is zero zero to anything you get that thing. The multiplicative identity is one. 'cause you multiply one by anything you get that thing. That's something that you can use an operation with an return that same something and so in like addition multiplication. It's very simple but if you have a matrix of a bunch of numbers than it's not as obvious what but the identity would be in that case where you multiply two matrices together and you get that same matrix ends up being really straightforward thing where it's just ones down the diagonal and Zeros on the off diagonals. So up did Matrix. Wow the identity matrix needs to be something. In some like SCI FI. Ah The retrieve the identity matrix so that we can all know. Be Robots anymore. Yep that's what it needs to be instead of what it actually is. I made it better. I clearly nearly made it better agreeing with you. Yeah we're in agreement. Yeah that's yes. Yes yes so we can move the segment and Say Thank you all to make Ted Talk. Exhaust all vector. I hardly know her. The citizens of pod Ville musicale selection selection were. There was no so this time around. I have not written a song chosen the song but earlier today on twitter. I put out a thing saying hey if you give me a topic and a musical style. Maybe I'll turn it into a song. Maybe if you're lucky a key maybe if I want to think I could do it in a short amount of time and so we're going to go through those suggest Yonis and we're going to choose one and that's could be the one that I do this week. Good all right we'll start with some of our nearest and dearest loved ones. That are far away and so your sister. Holly Flanagan after jokingly Submitting a topic and musical style of Song that we had already done. She say she said topic pausing game genre new age ELECTRICA. Good one postgame all right And so I guess her son. Jack had a suggestion and her daughter. Lucy had a suggestion. Combine the two. That's what I immediately did. So Jack suggestion was topic. Cows musical style country K.. And Lucy suggestion was the topic puppies style pop and then I immediately thought of. I'm a little bit country cow. I'm a little bit pop puppy pop puppy it's pretty good. Country cow is renowned pop up. Yeah exactly it's literally Ash. They're like they need to be a team team of some kind. Yeah Country Cowan puppy saving the world through music and dance dance. Is that part of the musicale selection this week. Yeah which means that. It's just like a normal music house election but like I'm breathing heavy in singing very badly. And and that's threes selection of Department. I so doing the doppler thing but also like double doing it so I don't know it's probably great mine is going to sound awesome all right so that was from holly in next. We have a topic from our friends. The Spooky spouses love them topic peeing. Somebody else's pants style. Dolls Iris Sir. Okay now familiar with that to which I responded. Don't work the word C. Peeing someone else's. Hey Oh man the guys who did it. It's Great Jordan Lindsey. Yes so that was very good. I don't know we've never done like a straight up like parody parody of like here's this song and change lyrics maybe not the time. It's yet to be decided truth. All right other friends at just zoo of us. podcast have had their topic was Wales. Musical style was blues sue blue. It'd be some other GONNA will release. You've which actually responded the blues band the Blue Whales in their single the blue whale blues. He's proud of yourself even did a little whale mortgage God loves boots so you know that the whales happy. I'll sing in the blue. It's technically a blue whale. Aweil blue all right other suggestions at mild vanilla suggested topic not wanting to get Out of bed style. Folk you love folk music and I love not getting out of bed. So that's a real possibility. It also is very similar to three music house elections ago of our song. Too Tired Very brand for us that you're GONNA say those of three other songs and it's like we've done three songs about being tired. I can't remember I'm so tired at logged into my memory. I can't log into my own brain logged into my ram all right. Here's a suggestion from amazing wildlife podcast. ooh another park go. Friend Topic Falcons musical style. which I thought Jazz Falcons Skins US jazz elkins or all right? Next suggested by James Anderson Jason our friend from various things including blink. And you'll miss it and kids on bikes and offerings are near neighbor. Who have yet to meet? Its right we need to have them over which party anyway. His topic was Polka his musical style pop punk the punk. Aw that's too low hanging fruit for me. I want to stretch myself. Keep it in the pot for the future but I could make it up. That'd be great art here's One From at Dando sixty four. That's good name. Who's Dan he's on a lot of scavengers network podcast he was the GM for kids on bikes? Before it met an untimely end Mike Brigade they rebranded and then stopped stopped doing things and then no branded unbranded alright. His topic was an Arctic musical style. Electro swing or if not that just normal swing is fine which is a really great style. I don't even know what electric swing with sound unlike electro swing. Maybe we should find out by doing us on. Arctic electro swing running in in the running all right. Then the last one was by Daryl Teague at Teague Daryl who suggested Mermaid Dub step up Dragon Emoji dub step have like weird six it can instrument it was like a like. I don't know about like pure step which is just a very noisy and crazy things things. But essentially like elements of dub step was all the rage in pop music for a long time. So you couldn't have any without a Wa Wa wa Wa wa Wa Bomani base dead that I've already started it John Ducks so I guess it doesn't even have to have we're exit. Could just be inspired by mermaids Yes a mermaid the siren brin thoughts mental dub step maids. Yup so that's that's our list to work from you get to choose. Julie has opinions about. What's on among those? Do you want to be the world in the next couple of days. Okay I mean my heart is giving me a clear winner my heart. I mean. This doesn't mean I don't have any of the other ones. We Love them all equally but one is just the best and we can do all the rest of them on other weeks. We doing the show. Keep eating ideas and I'm running running plum out after a year Yeah I hope. I hope that you do make all of these songs happen someday. But I think q should start off with Ping someone else's job to do it directly we just like Google Iris like straight up parody. Style Do that. It doesn't have to be that if that's GonNa be what you WanNa do then I would listen to it and enjoy it art. We'll see what happens. I will take that as my suggestion. And then we'll greatly musica selection which right now. We're we're recording this in the past in the future I will have done that song. And we'll pop it right in and so we can listen to it right now In our ever go coz my bladder field real fulsome awesome. How close to Burston that Ever be but a dome bathroom right now now like in here now is. HR call it out to make warm Levin. They slowly start the were. Don't mind me as UH as well. Now aw I just try out. Can't fight the P because it's coming towards the ball if you fly everything feel so really we just rely As a no hey there. How's it going great? I I really like your pants. These thanks there. boot-cut how do you know. I had a pair of those back in ninety eight to find him around these days. I wish I had a pair right now. We are you okay. He's dancing around a little bit. They're just slow excited about your pants. Oh that's so nice nice you ever had one of those big gulp struck seven eleven Yeah Yeah I just had about five of them. Oh that is impressive in away pay the heck is in. What is there? Something over there turnaround. Look at it you you have to turn all the way around to see it so you can't so you're not facing me anything but it is making me feel warm. Somehow it makes me feel good in a way to know. Look what happened here beautiful jeans. Oh no what wh- what happened. I've no idea I I think maybe I saw a dog run by you. Just now this is the weirdest night of my life. No Food Arches after aw done it again Wanna get. It's nothing all right all right all right. We've done it again. Wasn't that song. Great it it was so good I loved listening to it in real time right now. Yeah I'm still looking at high purple as over here. Get Your Act together. Yep So another great episode year of great episodes. Maybe one of these days. We'll do something special an anniversary. Are- E R Pablo recommends week is another one of our great pot of Congo buddies. The lucky go podcast that do all kinds of things they have a variety Heidi show element which we support as fellow variety. Show men and women show people show people variety show people we have the greatest show people anyway so they do All kinds of things. The their core truest deepest down EST parts of them are The role playing games in playing a role playing games together as a as a family but they also recently been doing some more audio drama type stuff which we might be taking part in the next look audio drama bit we may have been cast in some parts so may have been or actually have been. I don't know I mean yes we've yes. I think we have parts. I mean I don't know like I don't know it's done writing. There's no contract but Daniel said yeah and so there you go global contract. advil should go to all their social media's V. Like Yo give Julian Corbett all the best parts. Yeah Anyway Anyway. So the other wrapping up a couple of holiday. ARC's there's like a holiday audio drama called Charlie Saves Christmas and they also had a cute little story. RPG game they're playing. They're cute little animals else in the realm of nature which is an offshoot of ice in which is where the gigantic adventures of Jeff and Simon is set. Okay yes I got their information talk connected man so check about Outta. aww They're add at the end of this seeking listen to it and then go and see what they're all about and enjoy it as well Oh another piece of business is just today. We had our latest Member of the citizens the citizens podvig. -ducted yes Paul are. Are Paul the Fan Fan Fan. Pau Arfan Paul which is like so on point because he also did the suggestion for this week at all up in it. He's yard number one fan other than family members. I think he's been listening through. He's he's catching up on so he's not gonNa hear this for who knows how long right because he's going chronologically. He's getting there. He's not playing on posting regular he'll get everybody gets to it. Okay but he needs a position in the municipal government of pod Ville and so I know today he was out out doing a survey of trees in the woods like for his job. real-life doing his name is Paul Flowers. So Oh look at you go living your life. My first inclination would be to have him be. The Minister of foliage are boreal Boreal Minister Minister of Foliage Boreal Minister of foliage. Let's make it harder to say the rural or Boreal Minister of fall foliage. I can't say once you try and say once I don't remember all the words. A rural are Borio. Minister of Foliage Cheryl are boreal minister of foliage. Well that's the best title we've ever come up Welcome Paul now get to work. WHAT'S HE GONNA DO survey? Al Arteries pod Ville. Yeah these at least the the rural parts of pod Ville bill contains multitudes. I didn't know it's a bustling city and farm and and one for all the things all the other things in between suburbs. That's the only herbs got suburbs. We got rurals. We got it all. Paul we need you. Obviously tell us what we are Paul. Anyway welcome if you want to be a citizen of advil You can submit your application by reaching out to us on social media and saying hey bill and then if your application is accepted we will respond with Joe and by accepted we mean seen yes observed acknowledged Anyway are musicale selection. This week was as always always provided by our house band music music calculation makers and Havers Superhero Sandwich. I can't say words words good and suggested this week by the spooky spouses you can check out to cast. We'll recommend them to uh we'll maybe we'll put their little ADIAN. Oh there's a spooky but mostly sleep just fine. 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FYBY: For You, By You (Reading Glasses, Ask Minority Korner Anything, Us, LatinX, Digital Blackface, South Africa, Appropriation, Book Recommendations)

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FYBY: For You, By You (Reading Glasses, Ask Minority Korner Anything, Us, LatinX, Digital Blackface, South Africa, Appropriation, Book Recommendations)

"Welcome to minority coroner with an gay and James, the wonder twins Apolo casting. Learn laugh play. It's like blues. Clues only it's more black queer and lady lies. This week on minority corner. It is up Assode one seventy four seventy three one seventy s I'm the and it is me flying today. And we actually it's me a new credence episode together for us by us. And we're going to you all asked us anything, and we're going to answer it. So we're going to dip into the mail bag and together you, and I are going to listen to the ask and answer these questions, and we also will actually get naked on the show. She didn't and she was on reading glasses. And we're going to hear her on that with an amazing book recommendations how to recommend recommend books to other people and find the right books for you. Just a wealth of information loves it. She so amazing, so wonderful. So let's get into the episode. Welcome to minority corner. And it is just me James Arthur flying solo today. This'll be great flying Selo Willoughby great. We'll find out what happens when this is the true story of James pick to be on a podcast in. But find out if when he stops getting polite and starts getting real this is the real James on minority corner as you can see it's just mean things are about to get weird. Let's get weird and talking to just you never just you because you're a fabulous and wonderful and amazing. But there is no other co host today and partly because you know, we just got done with a maximum fund drive. And thank you, first and foremost, everybody who participated, it was such a wonderful maximum fund drive, and so much support and so much loud. So big thanks to all of those new and upgrading members. And those of you who are already members who were able to upgrade your membership. This Sierra I wanna thank you as well. We minority corner maximum. Fun. I wanna thank you as well. Because honestly, we can't do show without you. So we love you. And those who are also not able to be participating members. Thank you for listening later in the show, and that is going to join back in she's actually going to be coming back to the show and not next week, but the week after a super excited because her and I gotta get together. Because I'm here in the bay area. I've been in the bay shooting shit champagne with Stephen LeMay who we had on last week, and it's been fabulous. I've also been shooting a pilot for NBC, I'm not here in San Francisco. I can't fully talk about it. But I will say I got to work on the production side of things it was very eye opening experience, and they also got to be in it for a hot hot second, really cool project Ave excited about this more to come on that later, and yeah, but anyways to see a Nike very soon. Her end the babies will have a lot to report on with that. But anyways, back to you, the listeners in this episode in particular. So what he wanted to do is we often are like, hey, ask us anything and will respond and yellowfin really good at that. And then you've been asking us anything, and we've not giving you any responses, partly because your questions get cut for time on if you notice, but we like to say ramble. I don't like that word, but we like to to chat J chat chat chat about all the important things that we feel we need to chat about so your questions tend to get cut for time. So what I wanted to do this two week this today. This now is read some of your wonderful sort of questions or responses that we've gotten in the mail, and you only get a hair half of minority corners thoughts and opinions, but a lot of it's actually just really great stuff that you yourselves have posted. And so I wanted to give some love and attention to that before we get into that. So nobody's seen us. Did you all see us who've terrifying? His talk right on my God. Wow. There's no where else I go with that. So usually the person I'm talking to would be like, oh, yeah. I saw us. And I was scared or why didn't see it. But what were you? What were your thoughts or let's make fun Tange about on? Becky, but I don't have any of that. Anyways. I digress. Why saw us? It was I was screamed the loudest in the theater. I don't do. I don't do well with horror movies as much like, I just I'm very vocal when I watch these movies. They they really they really get to me also filmed in Santa Cruz were both naked night. Both hail from who would nine thinking about it. And I'm getting scared because I'm just sitting here. Talking by myself is this me or my Doppler Gaiger scraping? Okay. So let's get into your questions because all stoppings creeped out. So let's get into it. Our first question or I ask us anything this one. I'm going to give I we're big fans of Eminem. Ity is that the word. That word or we're gonna use that. Because I also didn't get full permission for many of you all to read this. But usually if you don't want us to read this at all, it's a private thought usually will type that. So I'm I'm going to read these and hopefully, you're not alarmed by it. But this is what's happening. So this comes from. I'm just going to say it was the title of this Email. So this I will say this from os- os- is writing in an odd says hi James in the neck. Thanks for the awesome show. I feel smarter and more enlighten. Every time. I listen all the research you both do is on point. Okay. You that's my little. I'm also going to give feedback as I read these letters. That's awesome. Continuing back to the letter is also says my ask me anything question is this. What is the defense between Latina Latino and Latin necks? I have heard it a lot in different media lately. And I feel like I should know what it means and feel silly that I don't, but I knew it ask you to you. Thanks for being such a welcoming and inclusive sources of education happy almost new year. See these letters are dated I told you y'all we have the what is it a grab bag of fan letters that. We just haven't had ever -tunities to fully answer. But that's what does that pesetas four. And then also said happy almost new year. Already knew that part. Then he also says PS congrats on that gay last year. Someone gave my daughter this book everywhere babies by Susan Mayer's, the variety of families and parenting styles included, anyways, it's some helpful parenting advice to a naked I'll tend to that. But apparently if you were also expecting everywhere babies by Susan Meyers is a great recommendation, so ause thank you for that. And I will try to remember to link that in the show notes, I'm make no back to your question. So the difference between Latina Latino and Latin next now, I am not a librarian, which means I did not do my due diligence to maybe fully research. This even though you give us points about our amazing research skills, and I'm just going to say j I did not do it. I did not do my homework. Okay. I'm not on trial here. It's been long y'all shooting pilot sixteen hour days, and then shooting a feature it's a lot. But I'm here. I'm doing the best that I can't. And I bought myself. Okay. Okay. Got me slim slack and losing my mind as I'm in this cave talking to myself, low lows when there's in the middle listening, mama. Can you hear me mama's that you back to your question so us, so I don't know hundred and ten percent. But here is my hunch. This is what I believe why folks are using an axe that Tina and Latino is very like if you are studying like Spanish, and a lot of these I'm going to a Latin languages they have like masculine and feminine. And so the Latin ax is the idea to not give it any sort of a specific sort of gender. And turns of like the Latino community says the lat next community because it just encompassing of all and moving away from gender rising in entire community in a specific way, which I would say ten to probably leans towards more so masculine like most people would say like the Latino community, and then they want to be specific about the. Female group. They'll say Latina, but they also would use Latino to encompass like, everyone, male and female, and that's skewing towards one specific, you know, male patriarchy sort of society. And so my what I understand what I have heard it as the Latin x is to move towards non gender ising that group and community. That's what if I'm wrong. Please tweet at me. Again, I said I'm just giving hunches here during the best I can here, folks. I don't have my our librarian here. So that's that one. So thank you moving on to our next one. This one comes from Rando plants, and they wrote this is says things for the inspirations or we're just doing fan mail. This is just a crab bag of fan mail. Thank yous questions all the things that we have not gotten around to and we're gonna make time to do them. So they said Hello nj high. That's me saying hi, remember, I told you I'm gonna give you commentaries I read this. So you might confuse them with the letter in which was me, I'll try to let you know back to random plans his letter. I love listening to your show. Oh and keeping up with the community on base by there was an episode of minority corner. Awhile back where you both were trying to inspire the corner kids to go out and make content. I had been wanting to make a podcast for a while. But was held back by not being able to afford hosting. But then one of you mentioned that soundcloud has free hosting and I've been making three to five minute. Experimental episodes sporadically Pozniak Shen love your choice. Other words sporadically where were you? When you for this is me, this is not the letter. This is James talking question for you listeners win where were you? When you first heard the word sporadic Li I imagined ninety five percent of you probably heard it from clueless. Brittany Murphy recipes as tie said I hope not sporadically trying to increase it for cabbie late. So anyways, thank you for the wonderful clueless. Flashbacks one of my favorite movies of all time passes, the letter experimental episodes sporadically over the last four months. Awesome. This and they were others back in November. So maybe they're still doing it. In fact, actually, they are. And I'll tell you how I know this so back to the letter this. We figure out why I really. I wanna focus on botany and making a varied chill com. Experience for listeners. And now if I only got my schedule set up to create regularly here. Oh, and there's a link. Here's the latest episode. If you liked to listen it stars a scarecrow puppet character. I already had and is the second and what should be a long series of episodes on different types of squash. There's a link to the sound cloud. And they also said thank you for giving information inspiration out to anyone who takes the time to listen, you're making living in this current political climate just a little better, and then they little heart shape. Aw. Thank you so much to that random plants. I love this. And I love thank you for sharing out your podcasts to those. We've had other folks who've also reached out about like how to start a podcast and whatnot. And I think with anything that you all wanna do I feel like with nowadays? There's no excuse like, if you wanna make movies make movies, if you want to be an actor go make being actor if you wanna be a songwriter write songs. There's so many great ways for us to building gap our content out there that there's really no excuse in the hardest part is just to get up and in love that you made time sometimes you have to make schedule a or just make time to do it. I'm alleged that you did it. I made a link your podcasts out there. I listen to a few seconds. It's a little spooky for me as I was sitting here by myself in this beautiful house in remember. I just said that I saw us. So I'm like creeped out y'all like I in fact, I only like say my name us anymore because they start thinking about it. Oh, I'm doing it. I'm scared. But I love that. You're doing your podcast fully support you in whatever they in love about the world of podcasting. Is you really can find your niche on there's a community for everything and everything out there? I've firm believer that you have a dream or an idea you have it for a reason. And the only thing is just to execute everyone. James Nolan was on here a over a year ago and his success formula is ideas plus plan plus execute. Action equals success. And you only wanna spend five percent of your time in the ideas. Space five percent of your time in the plan space in ninety percent in your excecutions base. And just execute create. I don't failure to me means learning. So learn stumbling just get out there and create and just do it. So congrats Rando plants. I love that. You're out there doing it. And yeah, let us know if you all have been inspired through listening to minority corner. I'm or other shows, and what you have been able to create through this. So if you've gotta show team. All right. Let's move onto our next one. This one comes from wool stay Reuben p Rueben p wrote this one. Ooh, I love this one. This is back in January. So look we're moving through we're getting through. It's almost like we get one asked me anything a month. Will you be this month's asthma Newton corner anything we'll find out. So they were Hello James. My name is Rueben, and I've been a fan and subscribe to the podcast since you. Join max von okay. Hello that Iran because we've been max. Fun for a you might know better than I do of. I want to say three years because we're coming up on our maybe it's been four years. The year's start to blur together. I have to tell you people you folks, it's how you folks that I used to be so good about knowing what happened in what year I just found out. There's a few my best gay friends here in San Francisco. We've known each other for ten years. I did not realize it been that long. I did not I thought maybe like eight nine eight or something biz been ten so anyways. So I have no idea how a maximum fun. But thank you for listening over the years. We appreciate that in you back to the letter. I don't know if either of you listen to the making gay history podcast. I don't but that tons lovely. I feel like I should be a guest on it. I know I love history in his Ricketts gay. This is me talking not them back to Rubens letter. Okay. But but making gay history by gas, but they just played a recorded interview with Byron. Rushton for the Washington laid I'm meal. Emailing you this because the show this show they're talking about minority corner. This show I introduced me to buy and his work. So it's exciting that we can hear him in his own words talking about being gay black Nanan activists. I'd also like to recommend the podcast making gay history. Because it's Eric Marcus playing the recorded interviews that he used for the book making gay history. Also since I'm emailing Yaw, I was super excited to hear a naked on reading glasses. Oh, that's a little teaser for what could be happening in the episode later. It will see, oh, this is me saying this not them in their letter. So they did ask a question for listeners about how to get new bit book recommendations, and I Email them saying that your show has a great diverse book recommendations, I got so excited when they emailed me back. So they're going to book you on the show. I think it's fun. When max von podcasters go on each other's shows. It's like a crossover. Ooh. And Ruben also has a record. The nation because this is great. We're crowdsourcing this episode y'all's. This is great. So thank you Ruben. Here's your recommendation Ruben recommends California a history by Kevin star star has written a lot about California's history. But this is kind of a good gateway at initially gets a hard side. I because it's a straight white male author under four hundred pages and ends in these shorts nigger era era sidebar side. Now, the man who signed both a net gain is all of our degrees since he was governor. I have two degrees from San UC Santa Cruz in he assigned them both. And the naked got all the degrees because you've got the master's, she got those undergrads, and she's got Watson Iger out bomb back to the letter. But the first chapters are about pre-state, California in the first chapter brings up Queen Khalif. Is probably the most widely available history book that discusses more than just white history. Thank you for a great show Rubin. Thank you. Ruben. I also just love to hear that. There is a book a history book written by some straight white, dude. Kevin Starr, sidebar tweet at me. I don't know. This is this the cabin star. Not there's so many Kevin stars. I feel like there's a few Kevin starts isn't there? A Kevin Starr who used to write Melrose place. Oh, that's Darren star. That's Darren style. The stars are very stars. Coming out tonight starts very very important famous. People live their loved writing by thought Kevin Starr was wasn't. He the guy that was also leading the case against Bill Clinton during the Monica Lewinsky era, also sidebar lot of great documentaries about or it was a documentary about Monica Lewinsky out right now, I haven't seen it. I wanna watch it. It's been really fascinating to revisit all these things. I feel like we're in a different era. Revisiting all these different things like. Lorraine Bob as well this documentary about her in that like, you know, these people who were jokes at the time because we're so fucking deep in the patriarchy at the time and the way that we view things now just so so different. So highly recommend the documentaries and recommending it to myself because I haven't seen it, and I should probably see. But thank you for these recommendations. Oh, what was I saying quickly? If I just love the like, I love that quickly has getting these mentions. I'm just waiting for her movie to drop, but it's really legitimizes it for me because I feel like there was some folks who recite I'm home tire Queen Khalifa two part episode that we did. And I really enjoyed it. I love the myth the history. We don't know. But why not be able to just share the story that may or may not have happened? And I love that. It's there. And now, I really do. I mean, I want I believe in queens Khalifa. But now since one of the stars are writing that she was a real thing think it is folks. Okay. So this letter actually meant to read. Last because it's a segue into our next segment with a neck AA. But there goes the beans they've been spoiled and spelt, we will actually be listening to an ks interview or chitchat with the folks over at reading glasses. That's coming in labor little plug pod plug, but let's get back to a few more of these ladders. So this is title ask you, anything you say dot dot dot question. Mark this is coming from Anya so on your wrote so Anakin James, congratulations. And by the way, this in March look Rin March. Now, there's no on your road. So I do have a question for you is it racist to use a gif of black girls. When I am white. The is saying you got this with two black girls, and they're expressing their expression fits perfectly with my inner emotions for you got this that I'm sending then there's a backstory backstory, this is sort of a spin off of digital black face question in the teen vogue article about that. I'm. Eastern European immigrant grew up here poor. But when when to college, and hence, I learned a lot I want to be the best human citizen that I can be by also find that navigating race politics is complicated. I appreciate your podcast there as I appreciate your podcast is a very valuable resource. I enjoyed learning with you for a bit of time. Now. Thank you for your time and insight on you. Learn let them play Linlin blame on. Yeah. Great question. And I think first of all you're asking the question. I always appreciate when people stop and just ask questions. So that's great and Gad navigating race in politics is incredibly complicated. All of it is complicated. It's complicated. Because we haven't talked about it for years. And it's okay that it's complicated to k- that we don't know the answers to things, and I'm just get to give my opinion about this. And it's just my opinion because someone else could also have it a different opinion as well. I think it's like a case by case thing, I'm just kind of thinking like if I were to receive this. From friend is depends on how often like if I had a friend who's only using gifts climbing gifts, they're not Jeff's upon them gifts because they stand for something that starts with a g I don't know people Google at but the near the audio click of the Google to tell you, I know tell you I think it depends like if I had a friend who was only sending me gifts with black girls in there like a white girl or white person. I start to feel like a little k- Rachel dollars, Al calm down. Right. But I believe it was like a once in a while thing. I wanted see like the problem in that. Especially if you're saying, it's fitting, what your moment the night exact moment. Sure. Give it a speed limit a little bit. You know, it's a little bit of appreciation anything and also helps because then you're not just sending you know, the white gifts all the time. So it's balanced. Just don't overuse it. Because then you're gonna get some I, you know, and I also does feel and this is my own personal feeling. I don't think that you necessarily have to. Explain like, I've sometimes like for people who may be passed as white Smith's like they have to explain away their whiteness, and I don't like you have to do that. Like if you feel like you have to you don't enough like you have to. But then again, maybe it's part of your restore. So maybe that's why it is that you're doing it. And I don't know. I just want you to feel like you have to like explain your whiteness of that makes any sense like. But it's part of your story. So I got it. But you know, there's no shame in. I don't have to explain I don't choose not to explain away like my male privilege, I own it. And then do something about it to help uplift. And it's hard. You don't have another co host. I don't know what I'm saying. If it makes any sense and it's late, and I have a have a call time tomorrow, folks, you know, my call time to be onset. Tomorrow's four thirty in the morning who man. Yeah, I should be going to bed. But I want to do this episode for you. All okay. So we got two more and their disease. So this one is coming from. I'm not gonna say their name. But it's from a. Someone who identifies as white and gain they live in South Africa. And I'm not going to go through this whole entire. The beautifully written. So I'm not gonna read the whole entire thing. But they talk about how they pretty much were born after the apartheid in South Africa, which some of the things we should really have dived to deepen here on the podcast, and they feel like I'd really love to a little bit more. You know, they talk about how that South Africa where same sex marriage has been legal since nineteen eighty four when Mandela became president yet, the queer communities still faces tremendous discrimination because of traditions, culture and religion talks about South Africa being majority. Black demographic seems like it'd be pretty chill with racism, but the apartheid only ended about twenty five years ago. And so folks of color is still struggling. Even though they've never been con- compensated for centuries a borderline save race. It's really interesting to think about you know, like, they're kind of you know, I mean, we're still trucking along on our civil rights journey as well. But it's like, you know, it's very very fresh in South Africa, even fresher than where we are. You know? So very interesting to think about. They talk about just sort of their upbringing in that when they were growing up. They had gone to predominantly wasn't till they went to university when they went from a school of ninety nine percent white folks that they went to then a university with sixty percent black people and just wanted to change this readers this writers world, and I feel like getting from their letter could be guessing at this. But. They pretty much. I don't think they were they themselves were racist. But you know, growing up getting outside into the outside world and getting to the university just really really blew up in their mind which allowed diversity for everybody. Just totally makes the world go round and outside. They also about during their time in university, the became a lot more aware of sort of transgender issues and spend hours and hours listening to trans people tell their stories and share their stories which made them a lot more sensitive to the trans community. And so that's gonna come back later to their point in. As they said in their letter. It's very very nicely written into beautiful while written letter in. So they talk about how when they went to the university this as they said this was all just four play. This is just setting up the scene of where they are. And who they are. And I was just let this letter because it's from a different part of the world. That's really interesting. So the talked about how they surround themselves with people who they consider to be woke that aren't racist that aren't classes that aren't misogynistic aren't queer phobic. And unfortunately, most of them are white and straight so not a problem for them. But they respect that, you know, they respect POC queer folk and women as equal human beings. However into the read the straight from the letter, a white says hetero upper class guide told me about an episode of Atlanta by Donald Glover JAL, y'all know and be watching seen the first season. So this might be a little bit of a spoiler for me where they have an eighteen year old black transracial trends transit gist character as a proxy for a trans person. I spoke out about how I think that wasn't okay. Because it trivializes trans experiences making a joke for trans people and not joking through transpeople, and they SIS people should have either not touched on transphobia because it's not their story or done it properly with a real trans character. After a long aggravating argument. His conclusion was that minorities shouldn't be upset that people invalid them because discrimination should happen. In order for progress. I near damn lost my mind, I was so upset after that encounter. The I went into a deep depression about the state of progress. I thought he was woke but said minorities are too sensitive. So the struggle is not real the next day. I was sold oppressed and mad af as far back. We can cuss here at this Thuat. Okay. All right. Well, I'm gonna shake my finger at you reader, you know, don't rent and call someone that's what but went on for reasons that I'm sure. You're aware of. And here's the beautiful thing. You're proving in this letter that you yourself are also not perfect. You know, we all have our different shortcomings. So there's just a little more, you know, right there, but went on with my usual routine. Listen to podcasts. I then realized the reason he couldn't comprehend the impacts of satire on a community minorities is because he was never at the receiving end of discrimination. And this was while your podcast was helping me calm down and cheer up because both of you are delightful and fun to have in my ears. And then out he says after the essay of a white ks experience in South Africa and want you to know that what you were doing is incredibly valuable in wonderful. And I am sorry. Cheeto Trump is your president. Thank you for enlightening me ever more about my fucked up, colonial ancestors, and spreading the wonders of diversity, you opened up my eyes to my own ignorance on issues. Thank you for your service. Your fan. Arfan from South Africa wonderful, and so many levels one that our podcast is on a global scale. And thank you for listening to this. It's a very long letter. I wish I could read it all to all of you all, but I'm not going to for time purposes. And yeah, I had some thoughts on this. But they just can't win out of my head and ensure those of you who are listening to and I think that we are an interesting space of who gets talk who stories in this is generally, they why I have a while to stop listening to south parking. You know, those of you know, issues with the book of Mormon because they don't feel like it's those guys story to tau anything that we not say that you can't tell the people stories, but there's a grace in a way to do it properly because I really do challenge people that if you are a euro straight white, dude, you can tell other stories. In fact, you'll probably have more privileged than opportunities to tell stories of other, folks. But if you're going to do it there's actual you gotta really do the work in really. Get in there like green book, I think that it could have been done a little bit better. But yeah, Octavia Spencer was a producer on that. So I love me some Martavis Spencer. Have you seen the trailer for that new movie where she was called in may of getting creeped out just thinking about it? It's really creepy. It's really fucking creepy. It's like a really bad pot experience like pot high. Like, it reminds me of like, ooh, anyways. Go check out that trailer. But you know, what I think what's great is that you what I loved in. This letter is that you found compassion for this other person. I think that's kind of the thing that what I challenge myself with is finding compassion for someone else and not getting so like judgy like, they don't get it. And they're just you know, they're not woke because I think we can get so superior about that Americans were none of us are perfect. Like, you yourself in your letter use the t word in that's using a woman's like genitals to downgrade someone right? So. We're all learning and growing falling short in certain areas and just growing. So I think it's having that compassion for other people is so incredibly key always comes back to one of my favorite statements that I get from Oprah Winfrey. What is here to teach me? And like you found it you found out what that was to to teach. Sometimes it's just our job to sort of listened to other people on do you wanna be right or do you want to be happy? You might not convince someone about. The way that it needs to you know, that we feel like everyone has to think exactly the way that we think in. That's it's bananas. That's just not gonna happen in. We have to accept people where they are uncertain moments in not say not the fight for the right to other people. But anyway as long as we long keep fighting the good fight. I love like you have power and privilege as even though you are gay, man. Sounds like gays were doing kind of okay in South Africa. Why don't know? We'll put a pin in that lane. Love to hear more. I should do some research on it. But you are white in South Africa, which means that you have privileged with that in. So keep doing the work. Keep keep doing. What's right? That's what I will say. I'm careful not to get people like who had for lidge like why people like too many snaps because like you're doing the right things. I just say keep going keep doing it. All right. This is our very last one before we kick it over to a net game is going to be issued does a wonderful job in reading glasses. She's got some great book recommendations, and it was so great and wonderful. So this win is a recent one on. So they wrote. Aaron road first things first all the best to a Nike hope she and her Sprogoe doing. Well, I don't think I've actually ever heard that. I hope that. I hope it's an appropriate word for me to say after all that twad talk. Lou, I do not like that word. I'm sorry that unlike it see myself African friend you got me on the crazy train. I hope you and your Sprogoe doing well, happy healthy and getting whatever sleeve they can listening to James and gas host Theresa at ttrij member her. She was here and a few thoughts occur to me. No surprise that happens a bunch with your show, a ha- she talked about her mother being accused of code switching because of her name coming in conflict with expectations because of her race will online I often have my image. Not be a person because of my name and to put their name out there or what are us or when a student aim is most frequently a day of the week or concept specifically because of a sumptious people make about what side of an argument. I'm supposed to be. The on. It's very interesting to see attitudes change mid argument when someone who has Sumed I am a woman find out, otherwise if I bothered to tell them at all anyway, I wanted to know her opinion Theresa's an yours of using names from other races significant other, and I talked about if we had kids. What would we name them? We both like solid for girl named for famed general philosophers solid den Saladdin Latin looks like slot and she likes EV veggie VG bunching possible. Baby names, if a Guinea EV G E N Y just tweet at me tweet at me, what it is for a boy envisioning while I like to Musian the original name of Genghis Khan. Okay. Once a powerful name. We're both y news Russian. She's british. I'm era. Mutt? So is this appropriation isn't a proper. Vision is it appropriation to our two are the names of specific people, not common cultural names in one is outside of our culture. But not supposedly. But not supposedly I raise I think that's the question. She brought up. The also think there's gonna bet Theresa. She also brought up the treatment of Asians in California. When she talked about white folks, not wanting criminals to come into the country thought of the number of people I hear why people especially who. Brag about ancestors who were highway men or pirates or murderers or robbers or barons all of the rest of that. So the descendants of the use of murderers, also be kicked out of the country. I'll say it would be empty out pretty quick I'll say that and for not letting Asian people become naturalized citizens. It's the same story as always they want the work. Not the worker could point ironically, making the US Mexico border harder to cross they have stopped. What used to be an easy and common practice of migrants coming north for seasonal work in back home with their families now for the sake of fee? Fear mongering in some votes. The US is getting neither the work north worker, nor the work. I miss gay. But James is holding the fort in finding cool folks talk too. So it ain't so bad before to the next one wonderful, wonderful wonderful. I'm this is a great question. I'd actually probably revisit this when a neck as bags, maybe I shouldn't have read it. But I wanted to clear out our in box of ask you anything's great question. And again, like I mean, I don't know there's any clear answered everything I think it would come balance. I think I'd be very uncomfortable. If there is a white family, and they had like eight white children, and they all had like very African the aims again. Rachel dolar Zhao. I think that's the great barometer of like my going to Rachel Zhao with this. It's a great promise. And at the same time. I do think it is important to get away from just white eurocentric name. So I'm kind of four that like I feel like if other cultures were the more. I think about this often like had, you know, an Asian culture. Or in African nation taken not taken over. But like, Ben the more dominant culture like you would, you know, black the Wallabies are so different. You know, like black skin would automatically be the, you know, moniker for for beauty. You know, we have to be unpacking all of the stuff for like black hair would be the one like Lee hair to be sought after. And why people will be trying to like, I don't know like get their hair light black people's hair, which Landau radio down. I'm so I think that this is I think it's a great question. I think balance and also like a for some of you who are being pioneers with us like you might get some side is and I think if you're okay with that. And that's fine. And you know, I it is that you're doing. But I do think it is important. I would love to see people actually branching out away from white eurocentric names. And it's because you're going to be pioneers. It's gonna be a little uncomfortable. Little bit awkward at first because that's what happens to the pioneers. But maybe it will be breaking down something else. I don't know. It's an experiment. Your. Kidding? How they feel about twenty years now when they're through therapy, and we'll figure it all out not a real answer. But I love the question. And I'm sure a lot of you do as well. Great thinking for you on that. All right. Well, they have somehow managed to fill up a good amounts episode. I wanna kick it over to a net gain in reading glasses. Yes. Everybody key fan. Stratton host go factor yourself a live game show here in the maximum fund network. Make sure to listen to our next episode of go factor self with guests, curt Brown aller-, I did a show in flagstaff Arizona, where the venue just didn't list that the show existed. Amazing. And I end it is the smallest crowd that I've ever done a full hour of stand up for it was three people. And Sara Schaefer, I love crafting. It's my hobby. I have a craft nook in my home. You do it. Do it has all of my supplies, displayed an adorable manner. Oh. Yes. Applause for. That's go fact yourself here at maximum fund dot org or wherever you get podcasts. So here we are with podcast or librarian in neck, if it's Clark, and I thank you so much for joining us. Yay. Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be on reading glasses. This is the best. So what are you reading right now? Currently I am reading David sedaris says new book calypso, I've been slowly pedaling my way through that book, which should be normally a quick read. But I'm just been like a mess lately. So I'm reading that. Will you are in the middle of the California fires so yeah. Yeah. You know, we're all masked up in taken her time. And now, I mean, I'm I'm kinda sequestered indoors. So I have more excuses to re which is exciting. Yeah. Exactly. I actually just joined a book club. I got kind of inducted into an awesome women's coven book club. And they're kind of making me a little bit cooler because the book is. Is going to be is heart berries by Theresa Marie Mel hot. And I believe it's a memoir about a woman who is native American and kind of I think it deals with addiction and those deep issue some excited to get into that as I am so jealous of like a book club coven. That's amazing. I know. I mean, I'm really excited. I hope that they're not disappointed with me with my, you know, you're inking is. But I feel is you're a librarian you're like automatically the coolest person in the book club. So can you tell us about your show minority corner Corey so this is like the best maximum phone crossover ever right now. So I am the co host of minority corner with my other co host is James Arthur, we met in college the show, basically, the tagline is it's Blue's clues. But black queer in ladylike, which I mean at this point. It's almost a little reductive because we talk so much more about things. But generally, we keep it around clear issues feminist issues than intersection -ality, which is like the huge main keyword where we like to talk about how raise in gender and age and economic status disabilities all intersect in kind of in a beautiful, pop culture. Crazy bag of goodness. I guess that is awesome. That is awesome of definite interest to reading glasses fans. So this whole show is is about the art of giving book recommendations, and as we were just talking about before we started recording one of the reasons we really wanted to have you on is we got fan mail about how great your book recommendations are. So as both a host of minority corner and ally Brian do you have tips on recommending books like the art of recommending? Totally. I mean, I mean, honestly, I kind of miss recommending books I used to be a public librarian. And that's when you do a lot of recommending books now, I'm an academic librarian. So I work in university. And I just kinda help people not Google sources for their thesis. But. But I I love recommending books. I I guess the biggest hit in combining my two hats would be to one. I you have to listen to the person. Like, you have to understand what they like to read. What what section of the bookstore? They going to go to I. And if you don't want to like, you know, tip off that you're going to give them a book or like, whatever recommend them a book, you kind of asked like, oh, what newspaper section. Do you go to do go to like world politics? Do you go the arts section? Do you kind of see which area they dabble in there? And then with my other hat of like minority corner. I like to say push it a little bit. So if they like, you know, like, let's say like science fiction, and you kind of like, okay. Well, let's find an author of color to recommend to you that you would. Normally read, you know, or somebody new lake I have to plug my friend Bethany Morrow, she just wrote this book called meme, which is this beautiful science fiction book about memory and kinda duplicates of ourselves in. What we choose to. Remember what we want to forget? So I would recommend that to somebody who's like I like science fiction, but you know, I don't wanna push it a little bit because you want somebody to experience something different something exciting when they're reading instead of just kind of. Trump in the same old pool. If that makes sense doesn't make sense. Yeah. No. I think that's a great suggestion. Also, I loved them. And we had we had bet that audio. Yes. She is fantastic. But I love the idea of finding out what section of the newspaper. They go to a very smart way to think about it. Because because people know that answer, you know. Exactly like, my I I liked trash. So I go to the arts section. And like look at reality show people, you know, so I'm going to read like a reality show memoir because why not you know, like, that's the other thing that I think as a librarian I wanna like cut down the the myth of like read, whatever you want to read, you know, like if you want to read about the bachelor expose go right ahead read about that bachelor expose like I read about a while ago. One of the Hugh Hefner's girlfriends or whatever wrote a book, and I was like shirt why not read that like there's highbrow lowbrow. But as long as you're reading and getting engaged in something. That's awesome. Yeah. We totally agree on this show. So are there any two thousand eighteen releases that you've recommended to people besides men men was was this year? Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Definitely your. I'm just so excited that you guys. Love Bethany is book I've known Bethany for like a hundred years. So it's, you know, it's really exciting. Kinda see your friends succeed in Steph. So I just knew that that really made me happy. Let's see. So I did some digging because I always loved to do a little digging because I wish I could do more reading. So generally, it'd be a librarian I like to kind of have an arsenal books. Just in my backhand, even though I haven't read them that just might sound interesting. So I like to look at book, riot dot com. Or, you know, BuzzFeed has a lot of good list, or you know, other places like that. So I found a few books from this year that I really liked that sounded interesting this one book called love hate in other filters by Samir, a med. So this one's kind of more of like a y a books running teenager kind of growing up and the whole growing pains. But with the twist of living in Chicago and dealing with cultural divide kind of like, I think she's dealing with her identity as being Asian American in Chicago, which is really fascinating. And also just kind of the normal thing of preparing for college. So that came out in two thousand eighteen I think. It'd be great, especially if you're like into why a or, you know, a teenager that might want. You know, something that's more relatable. I always liked to kind of pump. Why books that feature women of color or queer women because that's unusual. Why you know? Another book. Oh, this one has been getting a lot of buzz. I wanna read it. I haven't read it a lot of my friends love it. It's called the wedding date by jasmin goule, ROY. It's super fluff supposedly has some like sexy sex scenes in it, which is always fun. I think it surrounds a black woman, and she ends up meeting a white guy. And it's kind of like interracial kind of love story. I think there's like more in the series that are supposedly coming out next year in later this year, but it's like a sexy fluffy kind of thing kind of in the vein of crazy riches, Asians. So a lot of my friends have been really into that. What else? Let's see. Ooh. This one is super local to me. I'm I'm really into this one angers a gift by Marco Shiro. It's kind of talking about police brutality, especially Oakland police brutality. One of the the lead. Character's father gets shot by the Oakland police in kind of dealing with panic attacks that have ricocheted off of that in then years later, I think a racially kind of heated action happens at the main characters high school in having to confront the duality of the past events and current events happening and the bay area's such an interesting place right now with all the tech companies moving here. But also the existing people that have lived here had made the Oakland in the surrounding cities. So enriching. That I wanna there's a lot of movies coming out about Oakland right now. I want more books to be about Oakland. And that really kind of highlight the different voices that are around here in coming from different people who are here because a lot of times. Traditionally the authors that come out of the bay area. Michael Chaban are not from the communities that I think more people wanna hear from so angers a gift is another one. Those are great suggestions on of course. So what do you say to the person who asks you? So I don't really read very often. What books should I read? Did you have like a Swiss army recommendation? That's great for like getting hooking people who don't normally read. See I can't the librarian me just can't give individual like I have to give specialized book recommendations so for someone and I get this question a lot and they're just like mean. And I go. Okay. Well, what movies? Do you watch? Ooh, that's smart 'cause everybody watches movies. You know? And I think there's a disconnect from people who say that. They don't read between. Going to the movies and book like there's they're literally the same thing. Like, a book is just a way for your brain to create a movie, you know, so I don't have a Swiss army knife book because you know, I feel like people have such individual tastes. And I wanna make sure that I can tap into that. So if they let's say they're like, oh, I'm really into. Like kind of like a horror movie, but I love historical horror movie than I might like suggest something like what is that devil in the White City? Eric Larsen, you know, more like, I really like a. Like in. The funny thing is a lot of times people will suggest movies that were books. We'll be like, oh, it really gone girl. I'll be like, whoa. But I try to stay away from the, but that's inspired by the movie. So if somebody says like gone girl, then I'll be like, maybe you should read something by Tanner, French, you know. Oh, yeah. Try something different. So I I really try to stick with. What they're gonna is. And then figure out a book that falls into place of their movie genre because then that's gonna pique their interest. And that's going to get them really fascinated with the action of reading in see how it's comparable basically, like when I was a high school Iberian. I would get that question a ton. So graphic novels always are excellent places to start to with people who are super visual because there's so many different types of graphic novels. You know, you guys know. So you could you could pick a quiet graphic novel action, you know, horror all of that. So it's that's kind of my recommendation. I mean, I don't have like necessarily a specific book. But just I love asking what type of movies, they watch because it really gives me a good idea of which direction to go for them. So tell us about your reading life. Do you have any reading works? You wanna share? Yeah. I mean, my whole life is just like a giant quirk? I feel like. Oh. I love this is kind of shameful. This is like my dirty librarian secret. I actually really enjoy buying books, which is, you know, don't tell the library community. I will go to a bookstore. And I will just buy a ton of like right now, I have a stack of books out in my living room that I don't know if I'm going to get to. So that's kind of like a big quirk of mine is to just buy a bunch of books that I think are fascinating. And then slowly through years get to them whittle them down. Another corker mind is I love short stories. So because I love short stories I will read like in theology is that are so cheesy like the best American short story in theology of read that since I was like fourteen I also like literary journals. It sounds so boozy, but that it's. Quick and easy. And if I want like a nice quick short story. I'll go into I can't even pronounce it. But we have it at my library. So I pick it up. It's it's a San Francisco journal in its Z Y Z Y VA, which I believe is the the last word in the dictionary. Check it out and you should go to your library. They probably have it there. And they have a ton of up and coming authors established authors that have these beautiful short stories in them. So I really suggest checking out that the New Yorker. Of course, always has great short stories ploughshares glimmer train is a little cheesy. But sometimes I dip into that. So that's kind of like, I would I would say my quirkiest habits is buying too many books in lake not tackling it in also reading a lot of short stories, and like the tackiest quirk is if it has a really bright beautiful cover. I'm like a moth to a flame. We don't that. It's okay. I think we're all guilty of that. Yes. So it's like a wine bottle. You know, it's like really sophisticated then I'm like this. You know, we we are there with you do not you're not alone. So that makes me feel supported so where can we find you online? Yeah. Let's see I'm on Twitter. Ms Fizi, I believe it's m I z z fits FIT Z. 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REShow: Jeff Passan. Hour 1 (04-30-20)

The Rich Eisen Show

58:19 min | 3 months ago

REShow: Jeff Passan. Hour 1 (04-30-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. Podcast one production available on. Spotify up a podcast. Podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You podcasts anywhere. This is the rich Eisen. Show now. Richeisenshow APP that can be hard to face gasps. Espn baseball insider. Jeff Passan Las Vegas Raiders. Major Mike May off retired. Forty niners offensive Lineman Joe Staley Football Hall of Famer Dion Sanders Plus a Kademi award winning actor Matthew mcconaughey. Hey and how rich is Paul? Yeah that's a great way to start our show as TJ Jefferson. Rich Eisen show Social Media Grand. Maistre just did. I'm wearing a black of V neck sweater with a with a French blue shirt kind of matches the color scheme or the rich. Eisen show Logo that's behind me. I'm feeling good about myself about this program today. That's our coming on dot com slash rich. Eisen show the the lids tightened which is a rarity these days. That's Brockman. That's del. Tufo Rich to see you gentlemen and hello to our listeners. Siriusxm Channel Two eleven. Dan Patrick Radio DP radio. Everybody always still to come on the air here after DP in the Danettes or done what? They're fantastic three hours. And then we join you hear all the way up to three eastern time and we say hello to our youtube viewers YouTube dot com slash rich. Eisen show all the four five fours in the rich Eisen. Show Youtube worm. Oh We're appreciative of their and all of your support and man we've got another full House today Jeff Passan of ESPN MLB coverage he's an MLB. Insider is what? We are hearing. What potentially somebody I'm looking at right. Now is involved in dropping all sorts of bread crumbs on his twitter feed and he's talking to people about an impending baseball sees should be talking about that mic. Drop drop a little bit about it. It's going to be pretty cool. Dead Baseball is really thinking of gearing. Back up yeah and July. A apparently I July is is the the time that they're pegging. And if that's the case when we're going to start hearing about I mean this is it. It's going to have to be go time. Certainly if we're GONNA if if they're going to have to quarantine probably and this will talk about what Jeff Passan would've what do you think about fifty man roster sixty man roster you? GotTa? I mean if you're if you've got five guys on on an active roster supposedly and then usually teams that have a particular rash of injuries which you have to feel is going to come right with. I mean talk about players who need to be routinization more than anybody else. It's it's probably baseball players and you know spring training is now going to be. Maybe summer training and and the fall classic will literally be Fall Classic. And we'll see how it all does play out but you gotta you gotTa start quarantining. A whole bunch of people like yeah toot sweet and so we'll talk to Jeff Passan about all of that and then we have got a lot of football on the mind is always Mike. Mayock the general manager of Your Las Vegas Raiders will be joining us on this program and I appreciate Mike doing this. He doesn't do this a lot anymore. But as you know we go way back Joe Staley will be joining us. He is the recently retired all pro tackle from the offensive line of your NFC champion defending champion San Francisco Forty niners and there is conversation that Staley will be up for consideration for the pro football fan one day where Dion Sanders currently resides with his bust his Bandana and Sanders Claus. I look at that flow and beard on screen right there. Look at that out right away. Cooper did say that to me. Say Dad. What's with Dion Beard? He did he did so. I'm going to basically go there. I think that's how you know. And then we have an Academy Award Winner Matthew mcconaughey. On this program on Tuesday Matthew mcconaughey and Canelo Alvarez took part in a PSA that launched a that is targeted at the Spanish speaking community. To if you can stay at home stay at home and if not wear a mask and Matthew is fluent in the languages you will see the. Psa can it with Canelo Alvarez and That'll be later on. We'll catch up with the die hard redskins fan from the state of Texas. Who's the ambassador of quantum there for the University of Texas? And so that'll be later on. I think this is. This is fourth or fifth appearance on the show he did. We made one. I think he made to here in person and one in New York deserved four. I think this is for. He's never phoned and he's only been in person which we always appreciate right and I do believe we do have some Some hard alcohol that he dropped here we just. We haven't opened it yet. We have not been disappointing. But I don't know so maybe we'll pop that out later on not on. Korkut just want the NBC folks understand. We're we're sober silver when we do this partner okay. So you had. And it's five o'clock somewhere and as I tweeted out the other day that sensation of it's five o'clock somewhere appears to be done on earlier and earlier on the clock every single weekend. You know. You're only human. I'm only human. Hey you know. Some news got Maine around these parts. Sure did yesterday. I don't what's the lead story what what Forbes said about Rogers? Yesterday or the fact that the potential quarterback of the New England Patriots Future Future just popped out on the free agent market. That's not ap too. I just want high register on honesty. They don't have the cap space. They have a million dollars free and capture them right now. I don't think any signing Janus lint free so so then did did the next quarterback of the Jacksonville Jaguars part makes most sense. And that's what everyone's connecting. The doctor betray grew and grew offensive coordinator there in Cincinnati under Jay. Jay groome was the offensive coordinator there. An- Dalton is a good guy who deserves a shot. It's been to the playoffs. Four Times I know isn't one yet. But we all time touchdown pass leader in the history of the Cincinnati Bengals. Andy Dalton. That's true yes sir fat more than boomer boomer wow Andy Dalton okay for steam steam hair look at field yates field. Yates backing me up. So as Don Buoy and the rest of the rich Eisen show crew having that tweet up there all time passing leader in passing touchdowns second passing yards most fourth quarter comebacks game winning drives for your Cincinnati Bengals as a role. Those are all leading the pack. All right three PRO BOWLS. Five playoff appearances then of course field. Yates just adds at the very end. Real solid run. Now look really. We're going to do that. Hold on hold on hold on. Let me just say this. The word solid is a great word. When you're referring to something that you can bang on right or when you need the opposite of liquid or cancer or a great slang word for favor do me a solid solid. Got It but when you refer to. Somebody's work solid. You said sodomy rich. I'm done when you refer to. Somebody's work is solid. It's it's it's a second tier compliment. We'll sell it a Chris the job you're doing so solid real solid. Yeah I wouldn't take that now I'd be right. Hey del Tufo saw real solid real saul workout you for Andy Dalton and the Cincinnati bengals. That's more than solid. That's more than solid. Certainly since the free football world points the finger of blame which always comes out in the metroplex that's where the finger of blame always POPs POPs loose mostly in the NFL Dallas but the dreaded finger of blame is mostly point it. Marvin Lewis and and Andy Dalton doing what he didn't Cincinnati look at that. That's very solid just like that. The release of Andy Dalton. That's how much comes off of the CAP. Now you could say Christopher you're patriots. Don't have room for him. What the Jameis Winston sign after leading the League in passing yards? What do you think Andy? Dalton is going to sit there and and command salary that that the Patriots can't meet by figuring something out. Come on now come on one. Seven million in cabarets. Guess how much they could pay. Andy Dalton Handy. Do you WANNA be the starting quarterback or compete for a starting job with. Brian couldn't make a first down for his life. Hoyer last year and Jarret Stidham. James has just signed for one point one million bays zones better than James Winston Andy Jameis Winston just signed for a one point one million base to be a backup and you could say Andy. How would you like to come to the New England? Patriots your coaches bill. Check your offensive. Coordinator's Josh mcdaniels. The issue is is. You've gotTa make about one point five and we will load it with incentives. Come on now come on now. They can figure that out. They can figure that out if they want. That'd be wonderful. That'd be wonderful. It would be wonderful because I think Andy Dalton deserves the shot. I think Andy Dalton is More than solid. I think it would be a more than solid move for. You're doing the Patriots. Christopher and on top of it all I would just love to see the verbal and mental gymnastics that all patriots nation would have to go through talking themselves. Andy Dalton yes to talk yourself into Andy. Dalton is a very good alternative to Tom. Brady you know what most of New England would say about that idea solid solid. That's a solid idea. You want to make that the poll. What's more solid? Who would you rather have Winston Dole for twenty twenty? Who would you rather have Winston Dalton? That's it that's it that's it that's all we're GONNA say that's it. You could even go shorter. Would you rather question mark? Great no no. No I don't know. I think Winston would win that poll right rightfully so the guy. That's Kinda like a league in passing last year. They had to though there are losing every game they had to. We didn't have to. He led the League in passing last year. Two of his receivers went to the pro bowl. Last person is to to quarterback that was Kurt Warner. Any don't is a much better quarterback Jameis Winston and. I'm not just saying that because our first guest on Emma on NBC s and tomorrow is Jameis Winston and. He's agreed to come on the show. We've we've asked them and we've been and he's he's coming on is first nationally broadcast interview since joining the saints but dude how many people in the NFL would how many quarterbacks we get credit for having to pro bowl wide receivers. They would all get anywhere. Except for Jameis Winston arriens. It's the offense. Oh look at Evans. Really Good Godwin. He was he was on the UP. I think Winston would win that pole. You don't think so. Should we add Cam Newton to this? I can't within winner to you because you've been saying for months now that he's banged up but he's GonNa prove that he's healthy. I haven't said that he's got a proven that Cam Newton tomorrow. If I'm the Los Angeles chargers I would have done that but instead they had a plan. They're going to get this rookie and they're gonNA start. I guess sacrificing winds on the altar of getting better for the long term right. So we've came off. I don't know man. Let's we got we got. We got we got. We got some time. I sort of want to add nick foles. He's the same type of player. Andy and Winston go for Chris. See how it works. Eight four four two four riches the number to dial Jeff. Passan'S GONNA join us to talk a little baseball in about seven minutes time and let's get to the story. I'm seen it all over the place right now although I'm seeing on screen right there without the rich. Eisen show courtesy What talk about this Jody of on somebody just had taken. It sucked somebody's having to take right now is not right and what sucks about. It is the full screen in it. Didn't say richeisenshow verbally said okay. Epic while I mean rich. Eisen show is more than three syllables right. A ruler now richeisenshow. It needs to be poor so tough. Tough visit at any rate Our country friend Brett Farve came on yesterday and And does what he always does. Which is Spit Truth and just tell us what's on his mind and it was interesting how he said That he had spoken to Roger's GonNa leave it alone but then he did term Rogers a little surprised at the selection of Jordan love and added this about Rogers and the immediate future through the prism of long term future for the Guy who replaced Brett there so expertly. That is the envy of so many other franchises to go from one such quarterback to another so rare. This is what Brett farve had to say yesterday green. Bay's not going anywhere without Aaron Rodgers and the next year. If he plays like we expected play. They got a shot with or without a first female receiver. He's that good so I would do all I could to not burn that bridge I I don't think that they did that. I think they burned a bridge. That can be hard to overcome at some point. I think it will rear its ugly head now. When Bret said that I thought he meant to three years down the road because Jordan love. That's how long it's GonNa take at least that's what the evaluation of him was. Get Jordan Lov let him sit behind somebody and eventually he'll get out there with mahomes type ability. We even talked about that with Jordan love two Thursdays ago when he joined us on the morning of his drafting by Green Bay to trade up to coquette him which far even pointed out. Many times was the crawl that that's what sticks in your crawl. The most is they traded off to go get him. It's not like the situation with him and Aaron Rodgers where Rogers dropped to them but no he said there's GonNa could ugly head and twenty twenty from a relationship standpoint. It sends the wrong message and I think when adversity hits this year old three of bad games or whatever that is career. It's likely hit. And you know the daggers are going to be out now. That was the thing that surprised me. I A little Birdie told me Keep an eye peeled for the schedule. Next week okay and as you know I'm I'm familiar with those birds and there's no schedule announcement unless this bird actually starts so talking from studio to desk left position and the rich Eisen Got a Home Office if you need me to. Zoom in I'm available. I'll let you know. Thanks but I mean I won't Gotcha solid. I'll let you know. Hey I we'll have to see the schedules That'd be surprising starring three and even then I think what his point is is that there's going to be enough drama. Built up when a microphone is put in front of Aaron Rodgers or when he decides to maybe frontloaded by appearing on a show similar to this one if not one that rhymes with such Sizon but I. I'd be surprised if it's this year. That was one of the things that Bret said that that caused me to say I. I would disagree with you on that I do not see an Owen three start and I do not see anything but there would be enough people that you know that are out there already talking about. How Rogers isn't the proper fit for this system. We're starting to hear that. I mean we heard that towards the end of the McCarthy era McCarthy goes this guy comes in and we're thinking hey how's he going to learn to change his spots for somebody who's his age who's never done it before? Well he did and they almost went to the super bowl and they were almost the one seed and yet everybody watches. All twenty. Two film came out and re tweeted video earlier this week. That hit our show feed because it was on this show right at this time. Two Days Ago Greg. Cosell said on the film and Rogers leaving the Tana throws out on the field and he's leaving a ton of throws out there in the middle of the field which is exactly where Matt leflore wants to attack and Rogers is going to the hall of fame and he's going to hall of fame because he makes tons of plays that he shouldn't have to make because he's not making the plays he should make. Does that make sense? Essentially that's essentially what Greg Cosell said in a ton of packers observers said you know what this is not a bad. Take you know what this is an interesting take? You know what listen to this take and Brett Farve when I brought that up to him yesterday said I don't disagree. And then his answer came from the point of view. I'm sure Rogers has because he's a first ballot hall of Famer Like Brett. Farve turned out to be and farthest essentially saying guess. What even if he did leave some throws out on the field. They almost made the Super Bowl. Didn't they? And I'm thinking when they lost the San Francisco. Forty niners the plays that were left out on the field. That we're still talking about is remastered hitting his head on the goalpost against that defense that they could have shored up with Patrick Queen and I think when we're he most was the last player guest draft a thon live. He joined me two minutes before the end of the broadcast on Saturday. Yeah I checked as he checked in just to see if his forehead was okay because he had just hit on the goal post five minutes before. That's how he ran against that team. So the worst Aaron Rogers ever started three years in a row. Two thousand twelve thirteen fourteen. He started one too so again. I don't see it happening this year I do see it playing out to quote unquote rear. Its ugly head. When his contract starts out of guaranteed money and the packers start running out of patience to try and figure out what Jordan love is to either flip them like a Rob Lowe like the Patriots did or more to pay him. Pick UP A fifth year option that they earned by trading up to make sure they got him in the first round. That's when I think this thing is going to come to. Its if you will ugly head and the way that that rodgers can. Sheath those daggers from coming out is to do a pretty did go to superbowl winning. He wins it. He brings another title and title town. He could sit back. Put his feet up on a desk. Like Red Auerbach like the cigar and say how. How how'd you like that first round selection greenback? You're GonNa let go now. You're gonNA trade meeting let me walk. You'RE GONNA turn me in a far meter show UP IN MINNESOTA. Because the vikings are done paying kirk cousins like a baseball player just on that all out there we'll talk about it with Dion. Sanders layer definitely would agree with Forbes. Supposition that he made yesterday that it's not rodgers job to mentor Jordan. Love and Joe Staley from the San Francisco Forty niners of Mike Mayock as a just one of an alliterative double M.'s. Matthew mcconaughey will be our final guest today. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico DOT COM. Today that's GEIKO DOT com. Gi Co Dot Com. What I turn to our phone lines right now. Eight four four two four richer our guests phone line but turned to are a pardon me. Arfan phone line our guest phone line from ESPN MLB insider extraordinary. Our friend Jeff. Passan returns the program. How are you jeff? What a lustrous company. I'm keeping today. Rich Jeff Jeff. I only I only know one speed. But you're in the Ricky Henderson Slot Henderson so now I just here's what you do you can knock it over the fence or you can reach base in and wind up on third by the By two minutes into this conversation. That's either one. You could do either one if you Ricky Henderson. So Ricky Ricky we get really nostalgic these days right and I look back on players of my youth and I think Ricky Henderson was probably the best player I saw growing up. He was just. I would love to see Ricky. Play these days where it's okay to pimp a home run. Do all of the things that Ricky did anyway when it wasn't okay. Because he was ricky snatch catch. Don't don't forget the snatch catch. Don't forget I mean Ricki. Ricki talked in the third person when when talking in the third person was was Third Person's actually always frowned again. They're frowned upon. Like if someone were to talk about their first needs as we'd be like what are you doing talking in the third person you know ricky would still do it Ricky Care Ricki you Howard Bryant My good friend who works admitted. Espn is doing a Ricky Henderson tasks and let me tell you man. I had not wait neither. Can I two things first? Jeff only called the show. You've never physically been here to our Los Angeles richeisenshow studios and we look forward to the day that you can make it. But I would introduce you to my audio executive Mike Del Tufo who refers to himself as del Tufo. So that's right so you are the king of our third person third person. I mean I mean. Are we talking like Del Tufo is going to get lunch when I don't think so but yes. It's a lot of self congratulatory self-congratulatory. Yeah that's number one and then before we move on from the subject I love the fact that we stumbled into this to start The story of Ricky Henderson reaching base telling John Olerud who wore a helmet in the field because of His you know his head injury that he had or was it surgery. Something like that that that he told John to play with the guy used to wear a helmet playing first base old returned to him and say that was me. Ricky is a true story. Did that really happen? That's true story are just thought that that was the what the one the one that I don't know. Yes if it's true or not imported of the book To See this because I'm sure Howard we'll talk about it is like deep into his career. there was there was a cease that was open at the front of the bus. And somebody told Ricky to sit there and Ricky's like why do you want me to sit here and someone said to him. Because you've got tenure and ricky looked at him and this is just. I don't know if this isn't a full story or if it's true ricky looked at him and said I don't have and your rapper twenties. He's telling telling the story is Ricky's been around for twenty years. Yes right. He used the third person did he. Did which one do you? WanNa bring up Chris. There's a story that Richard Guy Ricky Gallagher million dollar bonus check or something and he framed it instead of cashing it would be. Here's the thing ricky like I don't know if they make them like ricky anymore because you hear stories about him and you believe all of them are true because because they are they are they are so ridiculous but the ones that have actually been confirmed as real are just ridiculous. So if you're dealing with the ridiculous person why is he going to act normal or rational? It goes against tight zebra stripes. See this story alone. Jeff you're on base batting leadoff man. See and now. You're just you're now need to keep an eye on you because you're about to take second and then third. I just loved it. I just loved when when Ricky was a Yankee was so amazing it was so glorious and obviously the as and we go on and on but let's get to I guess The story at Hand Jeff Passan of of Espn here on the rich Eisen. Show while we're on the subject because what's real and what's Ron not. This is real right. Major League Baseball intends to play baseball in twenty twenty. This is a real conversation. A real possibility. Jeff yes this. This is a very real that I think most of the stakeholders around the game and we're talking people in the Commissioner's Office for talking players. We're talking executives were talking Those who have the ability to make that decision. I think together. They're all on board with the idea of playing here now. There are still hurdles. They're going to be hurdles. And you know I said this. Yesterday I was on a I was on Adrian Margin Oscar. Podcast it was me him and Adam Schefter and we were just talking about the different sort of states of affair with our sports. And what it's going to be like to get them back and the point that I made was. They're going to be catastrophic screw ups along the way because we are just dealing with the complete unknown and not only the complete unknown but something that has the ability to change direction like Barry Sanders. I mean it could be looking great one day and all of a sudden you know two minutes later It's like we're going backward and we have to. I think as a society and the sports themselves be willing to accept that there may be failures. There may be bad decisions that are made but ultimately along the way so long as they are keeping health and safety before front of their minds rather than money and Prophet so long as they're doing this judiciously with health and safety not just of the players. The coaches managers everybody involved and the American public in mind. I think there's room rich for sports right now and I think that the room is complemented by appetite for it. No question about that Jeff. There's no doubt about that when you say that the public and everyone else has to understand that there could be a monumental screw up and that that wouldn't be we're opening a human error or the fault of of lack of planning or incompetence it's just again. The virus acts on its own time and it acts in its own way and acts in a way that that that experts and scientists science based individuals are still trying to figure out so the question is the players by with the players by into armor quarantine from month away from wife kids or can. I bring wife kids or are certain teams. You know knocking allow wife kids and the other teams are. I mean. Know what I'm saying like they're already were. Were twisting Rubik's cube right here. What about the players? Jeff Yeah listen. Were twisting a Rubik's cube rich but as I can attest my my twelve year old can solve a Rubik's cube in about twenty seconds that's probably by Yanking the pieces out and putting them back together. That's what I did when I was now. He's not. He's not one of those kids. Who SWITCHES THE STICKERS? GonNa have to send you a video when we're off the air here you're going to. You're going to see this is your first reaction is going to be passing that cannot possibly. I look forward to that right. We'll we'll put a pre- it's pretty. It's pretty spectacular Here's here's the thing about the players They hold power here you know. They don't hold all the cards but they can very easily say if we don't feel safe if we don't feel confident in this we're not going to play. The the issue is right now. A lot of the concern on the players side is financial in. That is totally understandable. Rich I think in a vacuum if you feel like you signed a contract and agreed to deal with Major League Baseball which the Players Association did that guarantees you and your mind. Particular amounts of money for services rendered and now owners are saying. Oh wait hold on a second. We're probably not GONNA HAVE FANS IN THE STANDS. We're not gonNA have the revenues that we thought we were going to so you might need to take a little haircut. That's not going to sit well with players And I get my my hope in this situation. Is that all the parties involved recognize that this is about more than what an individual whether it is a player or an owner is doing financially This is a and I hate to make it bigger than it actually is because look talking about games. We're talking about sports but I think this is a potentially important thing for the country and and something that people really can and should look forward to Just to have the Games back but to have that sliver of normalcy and and it's going to be an abnormal normal rich. It's going to be games. Played at the beginning without fans in the stands a probably in a number of cases in either minor league or college parks. Like it's GonNa be a little discounting at the beginning. But but the the comfortable part we're going to have Are Are the sounds. Are The actions Are the things that we with which we've grown familiar throughout the years? And that to me. Symbolized summer for us and that's just watching a ballgame regardless of where it is regardless of how it's being played. It's baseball if it's back that is better than it not be no doubt about it Jeff. Passan here on the rich Eisen show so walk me through. I know about the ten team divisions I get it but yeah we came. Divisions is not real that was okay. It was incorrect. Okay so what what is correct. And what a lot of there are a lot of plans going on okay And there there are a lot of things that are being considered that particular one. The details of it just weren't right but there could be a scenario in which I think of of all the likely ones. This is just me You know I'm not saying guessing. This is kind of educated guessing but it's also trying to be logical about it to me. The two plans that seemed to work best or the idea of three Three city hubs and five city hubs and then the three city plan. You wouldn't necessarily have a ten team division but you could have you know actual Al West and West Gathering in Phoenix and the Al Central Ns Central Gathering in Dallas Metropolitan area in the alias and the NFL east gathering down in Tampa. And you can have You know four Intra Division Games every day and one interleague Game in complex. I guess at a complex where there wasn't even necessarily so. Let's look at in in Phoenix for example You know you have at least one game probably to played at chase field And then you would have three in spring training park surrounding that whether it's in San Francisco whether it's at camelback ranch you know. Maybe they do home games because all the teams in the NFL and Al West have spring training in Phoenix. So they would have their their home parks that they can play in In Dallas you could have one team playing at the new Globe Life Park You could have T- game played at. Tcu You could have game at Dallas Baptist In my dreamworld rich Jerry Jones opens up Jerry World and we have baseball there. Now freaking cool. Would that be to see a baseball game? Played at Gerry where I agree. I plea. I would love that. No DOUBT ABOUT THAT. And and and and you know somebody would have to sign a liability form when the ball hits the jumbotron. I mean if a F- a punter can hit the bottom of that thing you know baseball academy that would make that would make what I guess. What the the catacombs over the rafters in Tampo look like nothing exactly. And I'm glad you bring up Tampa. You know you could play. At Tropicana field. The Blue Jays and Dunedin have their Spring Training Facility phillies in clearwater. Have there's the Yankees signed field? You have Al Anfield. They're they're just enough possibilities to make those work and you also could do. You also could do five cities you ask. Houston in Miami to the mix and You have sixteen needs place now. How you split those sixteen that becomes a little more complicated because you're not sticking within the division but at this point it's like we can figure out those logistical things. And if they don't make sense oh well. Nothing makes sense right now like literally. Nothing makes sense about the world these days. So why don't we just in brace that lack of sense and and go on being happy with the fact that hopefully people are working to get baseball back on the field and do so in the safest manner possible and in terms of the Jeff Passan senior. Mlb insider let's get a little bit more granular than F- because let's say The the Yankees and the Red Sox dupleix game in Tampa right. It's not like they give Aaron judge the key and he opens up and then you know Jd Martinez brings his bats for everybody. It's there's going to be a whole huge staff that has to operate the game and operate the facility. How many people are baseball? Ready to quarantine. How many people was baseball? Ready to put You know in quarantine for a month. Well the big question rich I I think is not. How many people are they willing to quarantine? It's are they going to quarantine that right now is is part of this and I think the fact that they're looking at Arizona Texas and Florida is not by accident There are going to be stay at home orders that are listed if if not have already been lifted in each of the states and the idea that they are going to be opened up. I think appeals in some way to baseball because I think the notion of quarantine in In places away from their home was just a nonstarter for too many players. And in when you're just going to roll the dice that that that everybody's healthy walking in I mean like let's here's here's how it would work. I think you order to make this work You're going to need to start with the spring training. I think the spring training is going to be Spring Training. Two Point I've been calling. I think it's going to be at least three weeks. I thought it was going to be a little less. But players seem pretty Gung Ho that they need three plus weeks especially pitchers Taran backup and during the during those three weeks I think there's probably going to be A quarantine period there where players are going to get tested pretty consistently where if anybody show signs. Who'S GOING TO BE Quarantined away from everybody else. And where you're essentially going to get your baseline right there I think once they go to the pods if that is in fact how they do it. It's probably going to be one of those situations. Where yes you stay at the hotel. Yes you go to the ballpark. But I don't think they're going to have any anyone outside checking where players are going at night for example. I don't think they're going to be severe restrictions in place. I think they're going to say to them. Be Smart I think. They're going to adhere to social distancing protocols especially like you're not going to have guys hanging out and clubhouses for hours before games you're gonNA have coaches especially the ones who were in their sixties or managers who were in their sixties or seventies separated from players pretty significantly like they have to be judicious about something like that because while the while the math tells us and while the statistics tell us that the players who are twenty to forty years old and Typically in good shape and without pre existing conditions. Run a fairly low not a fairly low very low chance of having something really deeply affect them. the same can't be said for for the older men who are going to be involved here for for the more vulnerable ones and that is something you have to take into account. I mean dusty. Baker he's seventy plus I mean so yup Joe Madden. What if what if a player says no what for players like you know what honestly what if what if what if Garrett Cole and his three hundred million dollars says I don't want to do it at Clayton Kershaw Carlos Correa catches. However you know I mean honestly Garrett Cole. I don't think it's going to happen acquaintances. I just use somebody who's really famous and well paid necessary for time to win. It is bad it is bound to happen with someone and I think that if if a player is concerned about his health Than it is more than reasonable for him to say. No but I think the policy that's being enacted around the country right now. Is that if you're back to work and then you're expected to be at work. It's a it's a really hard thing. for workers though to hear that and I don't envy the player who Is going to have to fight to get his money if he tries to stay at home and it may may well end up being a losing battle. So what do you think jeff timeframe it for me because if we're talking July second you're talking three weeks of spring training you're talking about Tests I mean they're gonNA have to test the. Oh my God I got to test the you know. The testing is a huge part of this. You can have everything in place rich. You can have a plan from the league. You can have support from the owners. You can have an agreement with the players. You can have facilities ready. You can have a schedule in place if you do not have testing not just testing for the players but noth- testing throughout the country. Where if Major League baseball is is running through thousands of tests a week maybe even more. That doesn't look like they're being taken from those who really are in need of it. If you don't have that testing in that level of testing the whole thing falls apart Jeff. I appreciate the time man from the conversation about Ricky which is a a wonderful I guess worm hole for us to go up be pulled into two. I'm obviously we can go for another half an hour about the possibilities of all this stuff but but it's going to have to be right now right like literally mid-may announcement will have to be made. And we're we're going right to prepare to get July second. I think that the third and let's put it this way. There will be an announcement if something's happening. There's going to be an announcement in. May and if there is not an announcement in May what we're looking at is a late season World Cup style tournament. Okay thanks for the call. Jeff you take care of yourself and your family. And I want that Rubik's cube video will put it on our our social media feeds. Please if you're up for that I will. I will do that. I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA go bugging and see how fast he can solve it right. No pressure no pressure Jeff. I honestly don't want that. This homeschooling involved quarantining vol. Just WANNA make sure everybody's fine in the past and household. Okay now. No I'm I'm going to be like the whiplash tempos. What you start screaming. When he's trying to do the Rubik's Cube you take Care Yourself Jeff father of the you're there you go right there. You're on the rich Eisen. Show do you own or rent your home. Sure you do and I bet it can be hard work you know what's easy bundling policies with GEICO GEICO makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go TO GEICO DOT COM. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's GEICO easy. Visit GEICO DOT com. Today that's Geiko DOT COM G. I. C. O. DOT COM but how about him with a wo- Jenner house-key in Schefter together. Whoa WHOA John Tomorrow. Show as the NBA supposedly is telling teams Okita. Open your facilities up if you're in a city that says it's OK additive. And then there's again they're going to have to if they're saying they're not quarantining and they were just. GonNa let the guys guys and just understand that. You need to be smart. Somebody's not going to be smart as not. Somebody's not going to be smart. You know it going to go out and bring it in and blow up like I mean. Wow that one kind of surprise me. Yeah the quarantining. Just kind of a nonstarter. Well guess what. I'm not coming in right now. Show I wouldn't. I mean some players are coming off of serious illnesses. Like you know beating Cancer Leukemia Carlos. Carrasco right wow dow kind of surprise me and then you're GonNa have to 'cause to me you're GonNa have to quarantine AAA players to to make sure that if they're caught up ready to be placed into your pod community and then what do you designate a few prospects in AA possibly. I don't know we know AA guys get caught up all the time. I don't know or just not GonNa do that this year. Sorry there's just no minor league Baldur's no or what do you cancel the whole minor league season? And then just have these guys already with also. I don't know you basically have a huge roster fifty sixty guys yeah like Ross and you tell some and you tell some guy who's who's been waiting for his chance in the show quarantine it may come and then you've got like somebody who sits around in quarantine never gets the call. You like the crash Davis of quarantining or you get the call and you never and you never and you never get and you get your one shot and you never get or. You're the moonlight. Graham safe was on last night I was GonNa say that right you've been sitting there. Crash Davis of coordinating great. Fantasy is it crash. Crash Davis a quarantine. You know what I I. I'm serious like this. Is They got a quarantine. There's no way but you're saying again. What can you tell us come? What can you tell us and talk live microphone? I can say he's involved in getting prepared for the possibility of games correct. I gotta see there's facilities that have multiple fields here like in Los Angeles now in in the United States okay. United States many almost all of their spring training facilities have multiple fields. See that everywhere. That's the idea is you've got you've got it. You've got a base. That's why said complex. They're all set up for broadcasting because they do the spring training. Course there's one place in Arizona you guys right. That has way way more than enough fields for you to do multiple games per day. Now everything and it'd be like the first couple rounds of the US Open. Let's let's go to field for field five exactly like court eighteen. Let's go when these guys were kids. Blank some law where. You're just Monterey on a random field. There's a little bleacher for ten fans and you're just buying if I'm a sixty five year old seven-year-old first base coach or whatever. I'm asking up that's what I well. I'm going up to the first base you know. I'm first base coach and I'm trying to tell somebody when they reach. I like look for this. Look for that. Messed up like the production staff can be far apart from each other camera. Operators are waiting for their way they way far apart by the way umpires they. Can't I mean right there at the b they have to be just like the batter has to be right there too and then when you when you go to like you can't be again? I'm I'm being serious. I'm being serious. I'm being I know. This might come across facetious. But I'm being deadly serious. Is there an argument box? Where the where where the the manager wants to talk to the umpire plexiglass in between out of plexiglas. But it's like a box like the they draw in and the manager cannot get closer than six feet argue and you could still say the magic word get ojected. Yup I'm serious honestly baseball's the only game. They actually baseball is the only game where the coach slash manager. He's allowed on the field of play to go base to face with the arbiter nose to nose with the arbiter and argue. Call the only sport imagine. Imagine in football. If Bill Belichick was allowed to run out to the middle of the field and go face to face with Tony Caridi. Tell him he he. He blew the call. They always have to call them over the sideline and the it's up to the the raft to give that moment to the coach right. Certainly if they blew the call and they know it they'll let the goat Vang in their face. Call them all sorts of names and then Pirouette and go. There's no technical foul in football. There is a fifteen yard penalty. Which I think is particularly more punitive than one free throw but could you imagine again if if Gregg Popovich was allowed to run right up to the Raff who just blue blue on his team face to face baseball. It's honestly it's real. It's weird in the same way that you're allowed to fight in hockey. Yeah okay. That's that's understandable. Fight it out boys you know what I mean. Could you imagine if the just basically said fight it out guys and then we'll separate and it's okay and you just sit out a couple of plays? I honestly baseball allows its managers to go out of the dugout and yell faced in the face of the person who just made a call that they disagree with. And if you don't say the magic word it's fine we're just as it clips. Spit come on. Will there be socially distance. Yeah demand we're still going to allow you the ability to come out of your dugout to argue a call buck if you're gonNa tell the empire that your players are savages. It has to be with at least six feet away of the umpire's face. I know it may sound like facetious but these are things that need to be. Set up because an a manager just feels. It's okay to go right up to an umpire not yet not to vaccinated but away. Wait till a player in this is coming. Didn't joke of George say this tennis? Wait till the Lakers were talking about. What if a player doesn't want to wait until the player doesn't want to get vaccinated? They'll be they'll be out of the sport. I'll tell you what it's comedy chunk of. Its wants to be number one in men's tennis. Guess what it's taken a needle. You can go play tennis with anybody else who doesn't WANNA be vaccinated for covert nineteen that is going to be a mandatory. That's GonNa be mandatory for entry into the sport for. We're talking about right now. Wait till that comes. That's coming down the road some point and we're in a new world we are. It's crazy which is I think Passan's point of saying what anybody is suggesting. Don't call it crazy. Don't say that's not just what's here it out. Let's figure it out and I'm looking at my phone to see if there's anybody that has actually busy. He hasn't texted me that he is not texted me. Anything yet is working on his kid with the Rubik's cube by the way I would always pop. I would stick stick's hop the pieces on. Yeah right from the Middle Easy. It was quick. You learned away after a while if you did at one or two or three times pop first time though it was really difficult second time not too difficult third time it was like butter and then you show friends but I did I did. I did it through it. My Dad my mom saw throat okay. Great Mike There's no way you did. So you're cheating it something as simple and basic as Rubik's cube. What else are you not a slippery slow? Do Not Stop. It is not a window into my. I'M NOT GONNA lie. Shame self at that point in the same way. My overrating is not a window into my soul. Okay we're starting to see a little correlation new poll question. Have we decided what our poll is right? Now it's up it's up it's up and it's is it glorious it's rather have for twenty twenty. Andy Dalton Jameis Winston Okay and you are in the James Camp. Yeah Okay Dude. I'm just saying you better put your thumb on the scale. By as you're losing through two for five million yards lasts. Rita stop six. He was lucky touchdowns. I get that. He was a turnover machine. They damn near still made the playoffs. The reason why they didn't make the playoffs mostly in my belief last year for the Tampa. Bay buccaneers. I'll say that I'll save it. I mean hit the RT and put your thumb on that guy. We'll do it. You're losing right now. Okay monitor their. It is eight four four two zero four rich. I'm getting direct messages from people that my stuff is being used all over the place and not getting credit who else let me tell you something right now. No no no no. I know he could have verbally given credit. But there was just a full screen playing Sambas Straight pliant soundbites out to sea playing soundbites without even saying no kern. Let's get I'm guessing them all now while we got so much. Courtesy at Frank Panja just just direct message me. We've been this business a long time. Use whatever you want just throw a question is do I treat this like spider? 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All-Decade Team

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All-Decade Team

"Welcome to the job of giordano filling in for our fearless leader rachel nichols alongside our insiders insiders today maliki andrews and jonathan voni e._s._p._n. N._b._a. draft insider coming up. We'll look back at this. Year's draft and jonathan will give us his thoughts on who has all-star potential in this rookie class but first yesterday n._b._a. Dot com released their all decade team for the tens the two thousand ten whatever we want to call it and of course there was raging debate on social media media talk shows about who was left out who shouldn't have been on the list to begin with and we're guys were slotted in general so basically just the normal day on m._b._a. Twin here's here's a list of the three alday teams the first team steph curry james harden lebron james kevin durant kawhi leonard hard to argue there. Now we go on to the second team. <music> chris russell westbrook anthony davis blake griffin and carmelo anthony and then the third team d. wade kobe paul george lamarcus aldridge and yawns so melita which players selected were you most surprised i find it interesting. That will mark solitaire. The users jersey in that graphic and lamarcus aldridge was a little bit surprising for me and that's because his games never been all that sexy right. I mean he was <hes> in in portland. He was an inker there and he had a lot of hype around <hes> whether or not he was going to re sign with the blazers and then he went down down to san antonio and since then it's sort it's been like he hasn't been <hes> this big name main attraction so for me when i saw that he was sick ranked six in total points scored. That was a little bit surprising young. I forgot about that so with a list of hard to to make it was him yeah. It was about buckets basically for lamarcus <hes> jonathan where we thought it was the biggest surprise i guess for you carmelo anthony any i think on the second team i think that's a little bit question where we're going to get into some of the guys stood of ahead of him but <hes> you know the fact connell. Anthony is sitting at home right now. There's not a team in the envy that wants him. It's twenty nine thousand nine. We're still in this decade that to me has to count for something when you look at some of the names that were not on the second team and blake griffin little bit to but not always the main one for me. Yeah i thought mellow was probably a bit too high and again. We'll kind of get into the specifics here in a bid but lamarcus aldridge was the one because again you've mentioned not a sexy game in portland oakland and then basically less sexy. I guess in san antonio in a lot of ways so yeah. I think that there are some guys that probably could have been left off. You can make the case that some guys could have been a little higher where in some cases which will do shortly. I could make the case if it's just based on championships to maybe dwayne wage should be higher than the third team considering his impact and by the way he walked away last year at thirty seven years old still being a very good player in this league so there's a lot of different ways. I guess we can go with this but let's turn our attention to the guys is who were left off the list. I think one of the biggest emissions from this list was klay thompson two time all n._b._a. Guy obviously three championships melinda. What do you make of clay being left the list he was. He is one that i listed as as a little bit <hes> surprising to not see on there too but for me when when i'm thinking about championships combined with just consistency klay has been such a consistent <hes> contributor to the golden state warriors they have become one of the most dominant teams in sports sports so that was surprising for me and the two others i had were kyri and actually dirk because just the continued excellence excellence there for both of them was just a little bit surprising to see carmelo make that list and and not those two dirk nowitzki is the greatest international basketball player of all time. There's is no question that he needed to be here on this list ahead lamarcus aldridge ahead of blake griffin great carmelo anthony <hes>. I also think that kevin garnett is the guy that we could be talking about out here. Steve nash. I know that that is kind of the end of their career. The early two thousand ten th section there but steve nash was still all n._b._a. Two thousand ten all all star in two thousand twelve led the twentieth eleven. Steve nash deserves to be on here. Yeah i mean the thing i think it's because again it was early in the decade right like you you could make the argument against it even though i'd be with you right like i'm not arguing against you. The dirk stuff is fascinating to me because he won a championship. Obviously in that scenario he still average up until two seasons ago about eighteen points a game or more in the decades so there's certainly room for him to be on there and in that championship he might have had arguably the biggest upset. We've had an n._b._a. Finals history or at least at in that conversation and you add two thousand eleven finals m._v._p. Shortlist he was a five-time all-star. He averaged twenty <hes> ah twenty point eight points and six rebounds for games in seven seasons of that decade and so when we're talking. I realize this might sound silly but ten years is a long time soon you split that decade into to our first five years second five years you end up coming up with a lot more names of who could be on that list list but for the guys on the first team what they all have in common steph lebron those types of guys is they were they've been dominant for a very long time and and so it's hard for ten years to be able to consistently keep that level of play and these guys are just in a league of their own. Let me ask you how about yawn is on the third team. Is there another body of work to put you on this on this list already well. Here's the thing yes i think there is but the reason that there is up on the screen making the third team is because his breakout has really been over the last two seasons income a player that we've said wow that is a unique skill set. His body has kind of of caught up with his length. He's filled out. He's had his his basketball i._q. Increase in he is an intensely committed worker that being said i think he's it's only gonna move up on this list and he's going to be one of those players that we could see in the all star game for the next five ten years and and so i think he will eventually made his way up to that that first team jaanus is going to be in that first team and we look at the next decade clearly and so i mean he's so young <hes> he just you know really kind of emerged in the last two three years as one of the top five n._b._a. Players in the n._b._a. And so i i see the argument from being thirteen. I would not put him behind <hes> blake griffin carmelo anthony but i i understand what they were doing here because if you look at the sheer number of points scored i mean those guys have more so. Let me ask you about that. Blake griffin carmelo anthony i. I don't have a problem with them. Necessarily being on i one of the three teams i just don't know second team was where i would have slotted those two guys jonathan jonathan. Let's start with you. What are your thoughts. I mean no carmelo but your thoughts on blake. I wouldn't have him second team over him and i think even the ana says it has strong case there and like i said some of those older guys like like k. G. right like nash klay thompson for me. Deffee should be a second guy and so i don't i don't see an argument for blake griffin ahead of those guys. I took the words right out of my mouth. I completely agree with that and i i think it's interesting to see just how much that body of work you were talking about plays into <hes> who is considered on what list because you know if if you were just looking at you know the the m._v._p. Donald this would be higher but we're not we're looking at a stretch of time in so blake. Just has a lot on his resume over that period of time all right. Let's get to the polarizing here. We had this the topic for last otherwise the entire segment probably would have been hijacked but how do we feel about kobe. Being on the thirteenth. Jonathan kobe should should be on the second team <hes> to put mellow over kobe. I mean i don't see any argument for that whatsoever. If you're looking at points you're looking at championships. You're looking at m._v._p.'s. He's the mean kobe. Bryant is far and away a better player than melo had a much better career and so he needed to be on that second team pretty clearly to me. If we're looking comparatively sadly i think that there are some people that he could have edged out to be on that second team. That being said <hes>. I took a a small. I waited into the anger on twitter this morning. Look at what people were saying. They were. They were up in arms. Were angry with a wide spectrum by the way not just because he was on the third team verb for both people saying he was too high too low and too hot and to call this is the goldilocks syndrome coming in here that being said kobe for the first half of this past decade was incredibly dominant and then obviously the achilles injury happened and he wasn't the same player and so because of that. I do see why why he was moved down the list. It's only when you look at who else was then on that second team that i see reasons to move him up if it had been dirk or some some of these other guys if we weren't going by position in each of those five <hes> slots then maybe he would truly belong on the thirteen the only reason i'm willing to move him up like jonathan swap out someone carmelo. I think plays a factor you're right. I mean he certainly wasn't the same player after that injury and he missed a big chunk of time and only played the first six seasons of the decade so i think that all kind of factors in right that makes sense yeah i mean kobe bryant for me as a top five player of all time right yeah. He's that good yeah and just impacted. He had on the league on on basketball so i think <hes> i think he needed to be on contain yeah. Here's the sixty point game the finale <hes> yeah i mean listen. I think that i've seen really good arguments for moving him up to second team. Mm-hmm i two yesterday this came out while i was on my radio show and i thought yeah second team was kind of a good spot for him because i was moving guys up and down or whatever but i saw some compelling in cases for because of the injury and because of the way the career ended even not necessarily having because of guys like dirk or or clay or guys who maybe were a little more deserving this this particular decade but man it just was great raging debate for august. Were six come on man. You can't get any better than that when it comes to him yeah but anyway let's move on vince carter heading back to the hawks play a record setting twenty second season in the league after the break. We're going to run back vince his top three dunks four his t. You may trae young was even board so stick around air on the jump having a safe place as to play and learn can foster positive relationship with sports. 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At least the mountain right next miss reality seventeen-year-old artists malachi writing recreated iverson stepping over toronto with office characters. The also did a cool recreation of the iconic wade lebron image but use soy story maliki. What do you think i'm all in. I wanna see i wanna see some lion king re-creations. I wanna see some <hes> snow white re-creations. I love it. I'm partial to stepping over shams personally but i do like this. Only moving on makes box scores today's david robinson's fifty four th birthday so we can flash back to quadruple double back in one thousand nine hundred four thirty four points ten boards ten genesis and ten blocks belika. You think we'll ever see this again by hoops hoof. I i'm going to say we're going to see this again and a quadruple double man i mean maybe maybe <hes> these ions going to be doing this next season. Maybe lebron wants to do more before he goes out but that's. I don't know if we're ever going to see that again. That's spent lebron's probably the one guy right. I could see honest man. Maybe i mean we got the rolling rolling up next. We got miss subtlety drake at giant larry o'brien trophy built and put on stage <hes> put on stage during the last jedi districts still think he plays ring. I mean drake is the toronto raptors he i mean he helped with them on the mapping and i think he he had some hard work in massaging nick nurse there in the finals me so i think he deserves everything. I don't blame him. I would do the same thing for him. Is the ambassador yeah. I was thinking. Can can i get one of those to be put in my living room. Somehow is that some sort of decoration. I can implement i. I think that he does still think he plays for this team. Yeah i'm not. I'm gonna tell him he's wrong. I mean look at its commitment. Jacket is commitment is really is up something out all right. Welcome back to the jump giordano. Maliki andrews jonathan cavani with you here. E._s._p._n.'s age awards and ask reports that forty two year old vince carter is running it back with the hawks. He'll play his record breaking twenty second and last season with atlanta. Brian horse reported that the hawks held an open roster spot throughout free agency with the intent of getting quarterback vince carter was drafted in june of nineteen thousand nine hundred sixty one active give n._b._a. Players were not born by the time carter joined the league including four hawks teammate cam british young kevin hurt her and bruno fernando nando so let's run it back here vince carter's top dunks before trae young was even born all at u._n._c. of course number three nine hundred ninety eight completely effortless rootless windmill with no running head start. That's pretty awesome being yeah pretty incredible stuff. Let's see it right here. Oh my god that's that's gusting. That's nasty oil filter slag at the number two also ninety eight heels out running vince packs it over the defender with two hands breath get out of the way the freight train asked glasses. I like that yeah. We'll antoine carr the number one a._c._c. tournament nineteen ninety-six vince goes out for the low rebound. They're back yeah my gosh. I just shoulder blade company. Get that far back mike. The thing is you can still do some of these same dunks now which that's what makes him so special forty a two years old yeah athletes yeah yeah. It's pretty incredible. I got a chance to kind of work with him a little bit better summer league this year and just the stories. He's got to tell i mean it's just incredible all stuff <hes> but yeah he certainly can impact team. I'm glad he's going back with that. Hawks team they. They're good young team. They they could use some veterans in the locker room to continue to help them be professionals. They've done a nice job of that this far so let's take a look at this hawks team. What do you guys think possible for. This hawks team. Maliki will start. They are a bubble playoff team. They could potentially be the eighth seed but you know there are a lot of teams in the east that are jockeying for that sort of spot that being said <hes>. I like some of the pieces that the hawks have. I like john collins lot. I think he is a really talented young. Big who is dynamic. Look larry. Gary is yeah i i just love the way him trae young play off of each other and i think that trays just gonna continue to improve and to use his body as an undersized guard that being said having been on this team just like you said that veteran presence can't be understated that knowing what it takes to win that having been there that preparing his his teammates both on and off the court is really important and vince knows his limits. I remember last season. I was in milwaukee when the hawks were playing the bucks and the the bucks were up by twenty or so in the crowd is chanting we want vince we want vince right 'cause he hasn't played yet that game and lloyd pierce head coach walks on the bench. You wanna go in and and and vince said no. I think i'm good. I don't really i don't really want i want to go in at this time and lloyd said and the chance and he says he knows when he wants to come in audie right and knowing that those limits it was it was it was kind of a fun cool moment to kind of witness that going back and forth because afterwards loyd says yeah. I know he just didn't wanna this time. We're yeah so <hes> having that second coach in in the locker room can be a good thing sometimes john. What do you think about the hawks this upcoming season. The hawks are fun. I think there are a year away but i i do believe that they're going to be in the mix for that seven or eight seed. We'll see what kind of jumped trae young makes. That's going to be the big thing was see kind of how their wing depth comes together. It's a little bit uncertain. What's gonna what happened with her. At the three and four spots the adage abbari per parker they drafted the andre hunter and cam reddish. They still have alan crab and you know the remembering the mix there are so not quite the experience that the depth that you're looking forward to maybe last eighty two game season but <hes> really a fun team to watch on a league past and i think that they will be you know you look like a month before the season ends. They'll be in the mix. They're not gonna be you know one of those five to seven worst worst teams in the n._b._a. League pass alert bird teams hawks and pelicans this year. That's that's all you need to be. Keep your eyes on during the during the season but it is going to be fascinating fascinating because you're right. I mean trey young. What kind of step can he take but here's the other thing now. It's teams know what he's potential potentially capable of same thing with john collins can and those young guys develop like what do you think of hunter and reddish specifically like what are their skill sets and how do they fit around. Maybe trae collins. They fit how the hawks wanna play the hawks. Wanna wanna have multi-positional forward wings at the two through four spots and want to switch on everything they wanna stretch the floor. They wanna give trae young a lot of space to operate great <hes> behind the three point line but i mean i do think that you know any rookie entering the n._b._a. Especially someone like that and there's going to be transition. There's going to be ups and downs <hes> you know registered and have a summer league. Had surgery missed a lot of m._b._a. Pre-draft process so i think that <hes> they'll be some moments there. I think of excitement to to show you what the potential is but we're not going to know what they are before their second or third season n._b._a. All right coming up next on the jump. Steve kerr says the russell all fit right in with the warriors that real talker bs stick around to find out what we think here on take the ball desserts on the crowd after book move like that. I just thought it was awesome. It's time for our favorite game here on the job. He s a real talk aw team u._s._a. Open practice in las vegas on monday assistant coach steve kerr was asked about his newest player on the warriors the ngelo russell. Let's take a listen to steve kerr. I'm excited to coach him. Always a great great young talent. I think he's gonna fit right in with our group and we're going to need them. Desperately without clay okay especially. We need the angelo scoring and it's up to us to staff to figure out how best to to use them and to shape the team shape. The offense awesome curse says dealer will fit right in bs talk to what it's okay all right. I'm just so excited about my take. I think that this is a genuine from steve kerr and he they have a history mystery of being able to embrace players bring them in and be able to have their culture absorb these guys and i know that de ngelo russell has not only are there questions with him and his a bit on the court. You know a will he be <hes> as good of a two way player. As klay thompson was for them probably not he doesn't have the size he does as a defender and and then also in the locker room this is a war for the most part mature group and how will this younger person common fit in there but steve saying this is on us to be able to bring bring everybody in. I think that that is one hundred percent genuine john. They're going to need him so i think this is real. Talk because of that right and because look he's a very skilled offensive players so i think it's on really steve kerr to try to make it work with him. He's not used to the motion offense type stuff. He's more of a pick and roll type player. But can you find a balance between those two games. If you're steve kerr i think they have to like. You said they lost a lot this off season. They don't have a lot of guard depth and you don't want to really ride steph curry eighty two games asthma score thirty points a game. He's he's not gonna have anything left in the tank. By the time the playoffs comes around and so you you need the ngelo russell to be an all star for you need him soaking up a lot of possessions playing a lot of pick and roll scoring twenty twenty to twenty five points a game for you to competitive to you know to to maybe try and get homecourt advantage you. Can you know not too far. You know five six seed because otherwise it's going to be really difficult especially especially if clay doesn't come back by the playoffs who's gonna have to adapt more will be russell or will it be curtain. I think he's gonna have to change things. You know not having that safety devolving just putting the ball and in katie's hand saying go to work for me or bringing klay thompson author stagger screens like we've seen all the dribble handoffs that's going to be an adjustment and so he's going to have to change things because a lot of the offense last year went through draymond you know he was the main facilitator in the half court and so now you have the angela who doesn't really isn't re- is used to playing without the ball as you know as maybe you need them to be and so. I think they're gonna have to make some tweaks to the offense malacca. Do you think that de ngelo can take another step not just as versus versus games concern but do you think he's still has room to grow just ruined maturity standpoint being around these guys absolutely i mean we saw the angelo just to get a breath of fresh air. When he went from los angeles to brooklyn he was able to take a step back. He grew a lot. He it seems so has learned a lot from being on that team and now he's gonna be surrounded by a lot of mature guys who've been there who have experienced winning and he's joining this group in an interesting time right because they they are just moving on past the katie hey d- era and so it will be interesting <hes> to to jonathan's point to see what steve kerr does with this group because remember steve kerr inherited andrea gonzala in that group that had already been together and this is the first time we're seeing some real shakeups happening in his tenure so he is going to have to be making those adjustments and that's not the angelo specific dick. That's more of a a larger <hes> thing that the warriors are reckoning with right now all right. Let's move onto the next topic u._s._a. Camp is underway but the conversation remains on the players players not in las vegas so c. J. mccollum is among the top players who turned down the chance to play in the world cup when asked why on the pod c._j. Had an interesting take. Let's listen if it was moved up earlier if it wasn't so much travelling between if it wasn't so close to the september thirty deadline a lot of guys would have been more likely to do it but i think the other thing that changes the state of the n._b._a. Is different than it's been in a long time. There's a lot of teams competing. Were championship. Now you know every year it's different based on. Who's the favorite favorite what's open was not open team movement roster movement etc but i think everybody feels like they have a chance all right so here we go b s a real talk in three three to what i'm gonna go. Real taco had jonathan you start. I just don't think n._b._a. Teams want their players playing in the world cup. I mean you look at janas honest winter. It's such a long season with the bucks. Now needs to join the greek national team august one pretend going with september fifteenth then going straight straight into the n._b._a. Preseason that's crazy long season for a guy like that who plays with the amount of force that he does who carries such a heavy load and so oh you know jaanus feel obligation. I think degree to do it because in years past he didn't and i think that there's some you know there's the bucks would probably rather you know. He stood out a couple of these exhibition games. Maybe janas isn't wired that way. So that's the reason you're seeing seeing ben. Simmons inks and extension and the next day pours out of the australian national team. I just don't think n._b._a. Teams want their players playing in this and then not to mention. You know a guy like i on goes to the u._s._a. Basketball and is around though these guys they start talking about super team stuff. I'm not sure if that's what all these teams want their young guys talking about right now well out of the ashes of win miami. The miami heat big three dissolved rose the golden state warriors and now the golden state warriors big three has dissolved or been injured or a little bit of both and so for the first time since that happened the league fields wide open and everybody feeling feeling like they have a chance certainly not every chances created equally that being said there is a real vacancy that a lot of teams that they have a chance to to fill and load management was a term that we heard a lot last season and that was just talking about the n._b._a. Season that's not to mention the summer workout <unk> out then they schedule and all of that so if teams are already doing loge management during the summer they want their guys taking the summer off because these still have to they've whole season to play and a title run to make an so. It's going to be a trend that i think we see continue. I couldn't agree with you more. If you really look at it i did this show a couple of weeks ago here on the jump where how many teams had a realistic chance or what we call the punchers chance at winning a championship. I had eight okay at six in the western conference the to l._a. Teams the denver nuggets the utah jazz. The <hes> who am i missing <hes> the houston rockets and the warriors the warriors and what i'll add another one how about the blazers potentially sleep in that scenario and then the two east teams with milwaukee and philadelphia so that's actually nine teams. I think that have at least a punchers chance at winning a championship so i'm one hundred percent with with you on that but johnson. Let's get back team u._s._a. Then who could push the u._s. in this scenario like who's a team that you think the u._s. should absolutely be keeping their eyes on the vegas. Says serbia are the favorites after u._s. and i have to agree with them. We're talking about sticks n._b._a. Players on their roster with nikolay yokich bogdan bogdonovich nehemiah the money beat beaubrun mariano vich michio dosage and marco qadura just joined the memphis grizzlies and not to mention some michio who is waiting in the wings for the seventy sixers. Might i join them at some point so that's a loaded roster. Guys have played together. They know each other from a very young age. They're very well coach. They've got pictures of like that is going to give the u._s. A run for their money. I mean look at that. That's that's just pure serbia's. The great is is a great team and they have their whole roster stor and they're coming for the us. I don't think it's going to happen personally. I think this is going to win. Every game by double digits clear favor okay still but it's going to be fun. I mean there's gonna me some real good games in the group stage. You know what happened with australia. Canada lithuania the group a death <hes>. It's gonna be fascinating. Who's in the u._s. Is group for those that don't know no greece has actually i'm not sure that that's going to be a cakewalk for him and the group b. is australia canada lithuania waniek senegal right. That's really tough group because you know senegal takes game off somebody all of a sudden. You're you're out of it. Altogether canada thinks that you know maybe their her medal contenders and they might not even make it out and you know they lose jamal murray shaimaa exander. That's that's pretty tough for them. No doubt kyle lowry. He's still recovering from his thumb injury in the from the playoffs but still plans to play for team u._s._a. In september sports illustrated ask kyle about defending the raptors n._b._a. Title without kawhi leonard here's what we're still gonna be able to read it back with the champions trying to defend our title. I'm confident with our team so malacca. You're ready three. Did you want b._s._n. Talk yeah. I'm with you. Go ahead. It's okay i. I believe that he believes that okay. Yes that was the question would be onto championship or even go deep in the playoffs. What do you think about that. I mean i. I think they're they make it to the first round. I mean maybe to the second. I don't see them boston milwaukee philly. They'll either just too strong for them but i mean there. There are a tough team. I mean they still have lower event fleet. Pasko siaka is going to make a big jump marcus. Don't discount the experiences. It garnered over that championship run but losing kawai. That's that's that's a heartbreaker. Get them being able to run it back as something that's that's where my my c._b._s. Oh meter go off but you know it kind of raises genuine guy saying the right things and are they going to try to you. Defend our title for parsing across words then yeah they're going to cry. Will they be successful. In that endeavor. I mean vegas says snow. Probably you know it's going to be it would be a very challenging uphill battle and it's going to be interesting to see the ramifications of what happens to this team now so if they they won this championship being chip with quiet quiet and now it's okay so kyle lowry is going to be coming up pretty soon in free agency and what are the ramifications of how they do this year. How will that affect everything going forward so they're in sort of an interesting time because of that. They've got proud guys on this team right like kyle particularly markelle sole right you mentioned competitors competitors yeah the ascension of pascal siaka vanfleet all those guys i think they will be solidly in the playoff mix barring catastrophic injuries but yeah just getting past ask that first round. I think maybe that could be doable but getting past. That might be really tough for them. I think i have any tricks up his trade. He's anyone done that for sure after last season so coming up next since we've got our draft expert here in the house with jonathan. We're talking rookies. Who's most likely likely become an all star. Rookie will have the biggest impact in the playoffs this year but i the jump recommends this check out our buddy windy windhorst on the southbound southbound sessions podcast with dan. Le batard and friends levies a great interviewer and him and wendy together. Just gonna be fantastic so take a listen e._s._p._n. N._a._t._o. Show is back for the third year lawn mower racing cherry pit spinning the acrobatic pizza trials and the live world cornpone championships are just some of the events you'll see on e._s._p._n. Eight the ocho all day tomorrow on e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. What we're going to take advantage of our draft guru here. Jonathan jones appearance on the set today by previewing this year's n._b._a. Rookie class. I i've jonathan which are most likely to become all stars in the near future in addition designs. I think john on a rant r._j. Barrett probably the next year of guys after zion zion is immaterial his own and then dairy garland. I think is also going to be in the mix there. <hes> really small synthesize. We only the five college games but i do think that you know had he played a full season of college. We'll be we'd be talking about him in that same breath as r._j. And josh miranda after that honesty a lot of role players not not the best class from my perspective with garland because he didn't play so much in college i think he was kind of the great unknown coming into this what leads you to believe that he could be an impact player just watching them in highschool scouting him at the data zero camping treviso. I'm seeing them at u._s._a. Basketball events now going to the nike hoop summit practices the mcdonalds the jordan brand in watching him in a you all the different settings where he was an elite player in his feel for the game ability shoot off the dribble pick and roll <hes>. He's still growing into his frame. He's still he's still a baby and so i think you know and then the intangibles of being a son of an n._b._a. Player i think helps a lot so i think he's going to be really interesting to watch with collins sex in cleveland and i know you said that that zion diana's obviously in a class of his own that being said how soon do you visit him being able to be and also. Is that going to happen. This year or are arfan going to have to wait. I'd be surprised if it happened this year just because the west is so deep especially his position and you just very rarely see rookies. He's have the type of impact needed and he's got some good players on his team too so. I don't think that they're going to really ask him to be the number. One score i mean they have jrue holiday lonzo ball. Well brandon ingram j._j. Rettig i do think that they're going to bring them along a little bit slow yeah. I think we're gonna see flashes of all star potential but i'm not sure it's going to happen for him. In year one i want to get to john john moran but a quick one on there was a lot of talk obviously about his <hes> physical <hes> i guess his weight. Let's just call it right and what his physique certainly. It's summer league even coach. K. made comments about that. He thought that since he was on the trophy circuit that maybe he shouldn't have played it summer league. What do you think about what you saw at some relief as far as his his weight is concerned his body. That's what we've always feed from zion. He's hide wild weight fluctuations. I mean you'll see him one week and the next week he's ten pounds. He's ten pounds heavier and so that's something he's gonna have to manage right his career. <hes> you know he has such a unique frame. <hes> and i do think that they wanted him to you to rest a little bit. This summer only played a half of summer league and so i i do think that takes you out of the competitive groove of being an n._b._a. A player you know be working out every single day. I think he'll he'll be fine once. Regular season starts so we've heard all sorts of like crazy comps right. We've heard the earned fox. We've verd- russell westbrook. We've heard i've heard combination of both like what is he russell fox. Yes i think the earned fox is a pretty good comprehensive athletically really they're definitely similar. <hes> just in terms of the open court speed the ability to play above the rim changing speeds passionate with both hands <hes> you know he's in a league of his own honesty physically in this class of rookies after after his diane so he's going to be really exciting. Guy memphis is building being a very very exciting team. I know that it's not a top five pick but i i just have to throw out and i'm curious your opinion on this jonathan then i sort of see rui hachi mora as potentially emerging as someone who could be a surprise all-star at some point because does he has this huge japanese fan base behind him and we know that fan vote counts for quite a bit when we are all stars and and so because of that and because he has all of japan behind him and when you watch him go through <hes> games. There's this whole cheering section of fans holding up japanese beneath flags. You have this just huge media conglomerate from japan they are following him and because of all that hype no other rookie has that. Do you think that could potentially translate. I think he's going to have the fan base. I don't know if he's gonna have the production needed to push him over the top <hes> you know he's basketball i._q. I think is going to have to improve substantially over what we saw in college. <hes> he's three point shooting. He was not a three point shooter at all really in college and so i think he has the physical tools that i mentioned the athleticism the aggressiveness people compare them to like japanese carmelo anthony. I mean that's kind of his game and you know. Is that really what you look for in twenty nine thousand nine right. That's my question great question. I really yeah absolutely all right. Let's move on a couple of seasons ago. Donovan mitchell played huge playoff minutes for the jazz after being selected thirteenth overall aw in the two thousand seventeen draft so jonathan which rookies are most likely to play significant playoff minutes. This upcoming season with tyler herro is a guy that i'm really looking forward to seeing. You're speaking my language cavani miami miami out. They need shooting dion. Waiters is played one hundred and twenty games in the last three. I give me more era barely played last year. You have jimmy who's going to handle the ball quite a bit and then he's the perfect guy honestly to complement jimmy because he's a great shooter can come off screens. You can also play pick and roll we can you can handle it he can he can move it and i mean he's confidence is not lack. Oh my god he's crazy swagger this kid it's funny. He should have been like a nineteen eighties or nineties. Hurricane is what he should be like a football player with the kind of swagger michael irvin would be proud of that kid fromm into a playoff game. I could see him knocking down three or four threes and just you know making the crowd go crazy and so i think he's a guy that if he do make it i mean they're going to have to stay healthy right. We'll be interesting racing to watch other than him. Grant williams alike route williams yeah look at the boston celtics roster. They don't have a single power forward out there and they're going to play a lot of gordon hayward at the four for jason. Tatum was the four maybe brown at the four but grant williams might be. They're starting power cord right now. They said that he's looking great right now. In in training camp they had. I can't really he's basketball i._q. So high physically he's ready. You know he's experience. He was one of the best players in college basketball the last two years. He's only twenty years old so the guy they're really excited about in boston low key. I like their draft. I think carson edwards actually is an n._b._a. Player i think more of a second unit type player but i like him as well yeah and romeo link for their lottery pick again so i don't forget about the great taco fall right right right. He had guys lily dressed in taco outfits yeah for sure it lets it back to the college ranks of this last topic jonathan which college freshman is most likely to fill zion's huge shoots yeah. I don't see anybody. Honestly i mean zion once in a generation player <hes> a guy like that. You just can't expect it to happen year after year but with that said i think there are a if you guys that are going to be very interesting to keep an eye on james wiseman number one player in our mock draft right now planet memphis seven one athletic freak incredible frame can step out can shoot three's <hes> runs the floor. Pick and roll finisher can also protect the rim. I mean physically dominant player after him call anthony and he's he's going to put up huge numbers. We talked about kobe white did roy. Williams system is here in north carolina. He's going to be you know they always going to be in its hands and he's going to be asked to do quite a bit for them. <hes> you know he he's going to be an a._c._c. player and potentially a top three pick him <hes> red mamba from arizona another another fun guy anthony edwards from georgia looking forward to seeing him play kind of an heir gordon type freak athlete <hes> can really shoot off the dribble and then you have the international players tail aladin denny ogden not college basketball but it's going to be a funny year this year because a lot of the most interesting guys are not playing college. Why do you think that is. Why do you think the do you have so many european guys in that <hes> higher tier prospects with the last two years have been where you week for international players other than you know. There wasn't a single lottery. Pick the past two seasons on the only like four first round picks at a europe. That's like historically low <hes> and so i think this is the year that the kind of the pendulum swings back and we're seeing a really strong generation of european players in your starting with model don and denny who are both important players already at the highest level of european basketball ascot ball and then you see the guys that flocked australia r._j. Hampton lamelo ball. I mean these are players. That would be faces of college basketball team right. Now i mean ah lamelo ball would be watch t._v. Every night if you were on an playing college basketball unfortunately not going to happen. We're going to have to tune into you know wherever wherever at three o'clock in the morning to to watch him play with the illawarra hawks but i mean metal ball is a guy that n._b._a. Is going to be traveling across the globe to watch what what do you have for the mobile. I mean people compared to his brother. Obviously you feel better score than his brother doesn't he. Potentially i mean we'll see how the jump shot trains as we saw the drulic stuff here <hes> it's yet to be seen you know how that funky kind of going to work for him at the pro level but i mean he's basketball cubing seventy play pick and roll and passed away. I mean that's special. You're awesome dude. Why your draft ex all right up next. We've got some breaking news. Who's from my hometown team the heat so stay tuned for that we back here on the jump pablo. We're here in a few minutes to discuss whether we will see ezekiel elliott and the cowboys uniform this year. Is it time to worry about team. Usa's chancellor. I got add to his legacy twenty second season and a grandfather embarrassing his grandson in one on what stay tuned sounds like the story of pablo tori. Thanks bone pablo sportscenter tonight after the basketball tournament with boot chin zubin. They'll be breaking down zach. I i start with the astros sportscenter eleven p._m. Eastern on the e._s._p._n. App and of course on e._s._p._n. Thursday our w._n._b._a. Game of the week is sparks mercury at ten eastern seven pacific on e._s._p._n. Two and e._s._p._n. App it's crunch time here on the jump. My guy you don has has limits. Returning for seventeen season with the heat has is the only player besides de way to have won all three titles with the franchise melito. Are you here for a has them. Farewell tour i you. We know how i feel about the farewell tours. I think that he should ride off into the sunset. I mean we we are. We're we're. We're almost certain businesses last season. We yeah so. I mean no i i can't i can't support it. It's not personal. I can't support it. I mean what a career this guy had drafted got a florida. He had to go to europe. You worked his way into incredible shape and any six for seventeen years in the n._b._a. Wins championship. I mean or the farewells incredible career for you d and had big moments. Obviously the first championship was a big part of it and even the second job. Jobs has a role player had some big games in the conference finals against indiana china and even against in the finals and some of those so thanks to jonathan thanks to melita. We're oughta time. Jump is back on monday from disneyworld so make sure you tune in for that. We'll talk to you.

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"What's going on everybody? I'm Molly Karen rose. And you're listening to the first. Take podcast when it comes to home and auto insurance state farm is the real deal for starters. They fit seamlessly into Your Life. Easily manager coverage. Pay Your Bill and even file a claim with state farm mobile APP which was awarded Best Insurance Mobile APP. Twenty nineteen and they really get to know you. Thanks to a network of nineteen thousand agents. You'll have someone local to talk you through options that fit your personal needs when you want the real deal like a good neighbor state farm. Is there robbed or in a long time? Nba Executive. Who played a key? Role in assembling. That Dream Team explained that he never talked to Michael Jordan about Isiah before the break. We just heard Stephen. A. And Jay Williams say that magic played a key role in Isaiah. Not Being on the Dream Team next Kellerman. The floor is yours. Well there are two things one. I said really what this comes down to the late news inclusion on the team because they chose to take a collegiate athlete and later was the most famous and most successful of the collegiate players at the time. That's really who Isaiah should've gone instead of you. Guys are just insisting that that. There's no competition. No comparison between Isaiah in Stockton. In fact that's very close now. Ultimately I agree with you by a hair that it's Zeya 'cause I think his peak he was a little closer to a dominant superstar. You could build a team around Isaiah little I prefer Stockton at a much longer. Career at his peak was nearly as good any many more great seasons than Isaiah did so at doubling his assist total guard. Carl Malone Scorer. Okay but I had guys come in the Pistons team. Would you compare that Karl Malone that that's not the point just having another superstar player is not going to inflate your assist totals by one hundred percent? In addition he was a much more efficient scorer and a better defender by you know he was he was all MBA. I defense team a lot of times. I say yeah. It wasn't the point is this and also all the ATM. Stockton made many more. But the point is this Stockton Isaiah ultimately. I've I'd have to also go with Isaiah by air. The issue with Jordan magic versus Jordan is what has also been reported. Is that Michael Jordan at the sign off on the final roster so however you get there and again later instead of Isaiah really. That's the one on swap out Jordan at the side off on the final roster so if he's signing no one and not on the team ultimately what is that of the Max you know On the case and please give Michael Jordan. I WANNA feel a camera for this. I want to be on camera for this. You know when we talk about boxing. I know what thing too about boxing but I also noticed step to hell back when Mac starts talking boxes because they are levels to this okay and when you sit up there and you just want to summarily ignore the fact that a vast majority of Stockton success as a point guard. Nba is primarily. Because Karl Malone and J Briggs up. There was no calm alone. Under Detroit Pistons Offensively. There was a pick and roll being run to that degree with a John Stockton -fensive proficiency was directly related to calm alone. You just want to ignore that this is moments when I feel your basketball court should be strapped and you should be putting a vote in locked away until the basketball season's over stuff like that. That's not point. Would you argue with that? That the president to Actually League Max Max. We let you speak. We did let you speak the only making off the only reason we brought up stockton with Isaiah. We know that what you said about Christian late we get that. Nobody's disputing that. Max but you brought up stockton compared to ask Zia. Anybody were to honor. Those is yours. I can't believe you missed it with those beetlejuice is. I can't believe that you could sit up here saying buy stock style. Stock this Jay. I'll give it to her. Shot Stockton Shoot Wide. Open jump shots. Stockton was not looking to pass almost all the time so a lot of times people laid off him. He got a lot more open and uncontested shots than you would realize because people were stuck descending upon Carl Malone. All of those things factor. I've never had that luxury. Never had that luxury but that would be bad there are other talk not not there are addicting role partners with superstars in the NBA in history. I understand where you would inflate it a little bit. By the way ultimately I'll take Isaiah by a little but that does not literally eleven all. Nba League that does not explain all NBA defensive selection. That does not explain open jumped out. There does not explain that much more proficient. Go Ahead J. Shooting the ball and to that a few if you want hold on hold on hold on. Stockton was averaging cable half decade. Go ahead Jack's good. Where where would you rank? Where would you rank? Karl Malone as release a greatest all NBA players. Would it be top? Twenty five top fifty five power. He's a top five power forward. Say for me. I think he's more than five. I think he's through okay Tim so he's tough. Talk about how important Kevin McHale. Okay I kept McKay and let me explain. Arkley and melodious close Novitsky Garnett milona closed a Lotta guys close okay. I'm not going out direction. A when I'm saying to you is from somebody who's played the position. Do you know how hard that was? And that wasn't the way guys player now. We see a ton of PR. Every single possession the best combination at that was stocked alone. Because why because Carl Malone can knock down at fifteen twenty footer like that so I was on the block. He forced double teams and elbow every single time so every time every time. John came off that screen the big was. You have to stay with Carmelo. You couldn't just help. I'm not saying that that that doesn't take away from how Rafik John Stockton is John. Stockton is Great. Jonathan's great all fame like Isaiah. Thomas had Karl Malone on his team to run that set every single time you'd be talking about a different stats for as he was doing it without one of the top. Three top five greatest power to ever play the game to sit there and say that. That's a little bit of plain agree. Board Little Hood did Isaiah. Thomas have a great coaching great teammates. Yes or NO DENNIS FROM YEAH. It was a great hustler player. Joe Dumars was up. Big Time Guy Defensive player knocking on nobody in that team. Compared to Carl Malone wire nobody came compared with one. Excuse me that is one player. Guys that does not describe fourteen tossed describe. It also doesn't describe just one great player teammate. Multiple Sixty win seasons finals appearances back to that. They took the bull six games at a time. Where the bold talk knowing looks better to go round you guys talking about Utah you what are you talking about? The fact that a matter is you. Don't I'm walking? It's four game against the Utah Jazz match. We we let you speak and you want to Basketball Gardens and we let you do. Most of the talking and John Stockton was the was the office. I just finished telling you when it comes to boxing. I'll lay off did not. I did say that in other words. What I'm saying is often every time you open your mouth about basketball. It's clear this. Hr expertise talking about all right. I've been Carmello the office between those two. That's what their offense was predicated on They had Thomas add. It wasn't about them offensively Thomas Office. It was stopped. The two Maloney Uta Isaiah. Thomas was surrounded by a bunch of defenders Hustle. Guys rough riders. And what have you? He was the face of that franchise and the face of the office. He was the number one option. There has never been a game let alone a season where John Stockton was the number one option. It's ridiculous or giving the evidence you are giving the evidence for Isaiah Thomas which I subscribed to ultimately got him by the hair he was lying. And how you guys are acting like Stockton's not in the conversation. Why was it stockton made five all NBA first teams defensively averaging three steals a game? That also Karl Malone he was shooting by the way stockton could shoot Code Pink. Let me it. Somebody's telling you. How Great Lead. Franson elite elite steals players one of the elite steals players in the NBA. Was Alan Iverson. Alan Iverson will be the first to tell you he could guard anybody. He had to take chances still in the boss still act. You know the perfect implication of what five minutes. There's a first teams. He was always all all defensive. I say these sales leader we couldn't do. We didn't play deal where we talk about with thing. They had some it there. Thomas was leaked offenders. One by Molly's a better off place. So Max v idea talented. You think Max Max one question Max answering questions. You need a guy to leave your team. You don't have another superstar team who you take. Isaiah Thomas or you take John Stockton Isaiah Thomas but this is not that question thank you thank you thank you. Thank you super debate. Jank you Isaiah Thomas Molly not the guy you need for Super Molly compared to a guy plays defense and everybody knows everybody know up with ESPN. I'm not complaining about my paycheck. Okay but I want to announce to the world. I should get extra for having the listen to this dribble from Max. Kellerman paid extra believable. Unbelievable unbelievable wouldn't let me predetermined player on the Dream Team and that's why they had later. If anyone can hear me I watch a lot. Nba Games as you know and you know the cables Michael. Because he's such a class Completely steers away from trying to compare themselves to the Bronx Kobe or anybody else. That's the fast. But if you ask me watching all these games would virtually zero defense. Dole had checked I think if Jordan played today if he was in his prime in today's rules. I think you'd average between fifty and sixty game seventy seventy five percent from before you could be completely stopping. Wow that was Dan. Mj's longtime agent. You heard of drought fifty to sixty is Jay Williams back here with us even how much would MJ punish in today's game? Well he would have destroyed all all competition. I don't think there's any question about that. But he wouldn't have averaged fifty and shot seventy five percent from the field. That's definitely hyperbolic on David. Fos Bar one of if not the agent of his time and still Isn't bill big time? As far as I'm concerned he really knows what the hell he's doing. But let me be very very clear. I think Michael Jordan would have averaged about forty. I think his rival in terms of scoring would have been exactly who it should be. James Harden today's rules off. But I think that Jordan would have had an edge because of what Jordan did on the defensive side of the ball is well James Harden just destroys you off the dribble step back. Three point shots and get to the whole gets free throw line. I think that Georgia would have done that primarily from a two point rates. He thought he would have developed a better three point game but I think he would really made his bones with steals defending locking down opponents. And I think the thing that's not mentioned everytime J. that people talk about Jordan. They always talk about. How many points scored a high? He would have destroyed the competition because of what he did offensively. I think that people don't realize in the the you know the heart transplants. He would have forced or he would have just snatch dudes hearts all around the league. He would have taken them out. They would've wanted no part of him because that was Jordan specialty. He wasn't about just beating you molly MACs J. He was about demoralizing. You taking your heart away from you and making sure you knew you could mess with him at all that you want. No part of him. It wasn't enough to him to walk off. The court. Victoria literally wanted to snatch your heart out of your chest and that's one of the things that you don't see much of in the Modern Day Game. That's the difference. And that's I think he would have averaged his forty he would've shot fifty percent from the field and more importantly a lot of the damage would have been done on the defensive end floor because of his ability to shut people down. That's where he would've just annihilated. Do this is not that hard to figure out. Of course David. Falk is being ridiculous. I originally said a couple of days ago Jordan would average forty easy and the reason I said that is as follows. First of all in this day and age left to Jordan's up in this day and age you don't just plug a guy out of his prime drop okay. What kind of game does he have? Because the game evolves the rules change. Anyone coming up nowadays is shooting the three. If you play on the perimeter you're shooting the three you're coming up shooting the three so then the question is does that player the capacity to really become a good three point shooter Jordan. When he started shooting the three shot thirty seven percent one year forty almost three percent one year in the second half of his career indicating he had the ability to be a very good three point shooter so when he talks about shooting percentage seventy five percent of course not in fact his field goal presented probably would have fallen because he'd be taking more lower percentage shots however he would have hit a lot of them he would have been one of the better three point shooters in the league. Because if that's what he's worked would've happened as evidenced by the fact that he did you average forty percent over two seasons for the so so you that way up and you say is true. Shooting percentage probably rises especially in this scoring Dan age where the primary ball handler can. Maybe it's not as much eyeso- Babacan really monopolize the usage of the ball. You look at Jordan. Said if PIPPA didn't have the Migraine in game seven against the Pistons First Time Jordan had another all star. He'd beaten them Jordan. Took twenty seven shots hit thirteen. They're all two point. There's only taking mid range shots. He had almost fifty percent of them. Dropped thirty something had a bunch of assists and rebounds. The whole thing the only other guy who did anything horace grant dropped ten points shot like three of Seventeen. Jordan was keeping teams in Games. Two by counting to one and two at a time. You add the three point. Game and an increase percentage shot from three Jordan's averaging easily forty game his true shooting percentage probably goes up and by the way when guys leave the League nowadays and scoring its point to Jordan when he was young was not leading the League in scoring by a point or two later in his career. He beat Carl Malone by a couple points later in his career early in his career. He was smoking. Dominique Wilkins. Five six seven points more per average per game on average so when you look at the distance between him in second place and you look at guys. Averaging close to thirty five nowadays Jordan clearly going to be up over forty points a game as a great two way player. He's the greatest player of all time for a reason so couple of things number one. The forty fifty. Maybe maybe seventy five percents from the field. I don't think about that. That's a little bit embellishment but the forty fifty and both guy said maybe not. I'm sitting here saying maybe because we think about Michael Jordan and tribal system from somebody's played in that system. The amount of passes in thirty three cuts for every damn pass. Trust me. It took me a whole season to figure out the blueprint of how the offense works right and I was a point guard not even played it the two position where he gets the ball pinch post. But if you're talking about the Michael Jordan with Doug Collins Jordan that was able that ball in his hands the push the ball down the court to do whatever he wants to play at a fast pace can get to that. I mean Alan Iverson was able to get to the free throw line like nine ten times a game throughout his career. Because you know you hit them you go the free delighted Michael Jordan. Were in that age in this age were. That's a foul like back in day. Are The ball you guys even guys Rick Lewis shots like this. You'll have to shoot that ball. They're not calling it. That's this is the found now so I'm kind of I don't know I'm sitting there. Thinking maybe could average forty and fifty if he had the green shoot the ball as much as James Harden and he was playing at the pace at Doug Collins allowed him to play the pace that is in today's game in age. He might be able to do that. Stephen he might be able to get that one done back in the day when they had you mug. Jude beat you up. Beach down as they showed during the pistons the bad boy going against Jordan and the Jordan rules considering what the how the game called today back in the day the y'all realized that Jordan averaged a career eight point two free throws or game eight point two at the very least that would double in today's game and we he'd get every call by the rules alone. We're not even taking into account the fact that he's Jordan he would be the star and you're trying to protect them. Remember what John. Salley said on the last dance episode four. It was like we had to get him before he took flight. Because you know he's not human right and then he talked about that and he talked about what he brings to the table. And what have you what they did to beat him up? Rodman alluded to what the rule was Nakas behind down. Do what you gotTa do etc. He's still got to the free throw line eight times and they talked about how they wanted Jordan the face of the League to ascend and we the Pistons. Gotten away at that we were like Nah. We're GONNA RUIN THIS. Ain't it ain't his tom yet and that was when the League was pushed it for him to be that dude. In today's Day and age with these sorts of Scott nell tissue rules. Excuse me Jordan and got a free throw line. Eighteen to twenty game in mind the three point shot and how he would have taken advantage of that you have stars shooting six seven threes. A Game Jordan would have been as he was in the second half of his career in a leak. Three point shooting was the best in the league. Among we take a lot of them and people don't understand they said well. The modern athlete Roy Williams recently said they put they they ran Jordan in the forty at UNC. Because they wanted to chart his year-by-year progress he ran a four three eight. They thought it was wrong. They did it again. He ran it again. A four three eight forty two forty eight inch vert. So he's like when you look at what hardening these guys doing. They're not nearly as athletic as Jordan was. And you add that to the work ethic and the three point shooting in the second half of his career the guy would be the reason. He was even in the game when he was saying well. Now with the angle. We're not going to be. I'm not going to be reading the League scored and he did. He averaged thirty three and led the League in scoring first year in the triangle. Max Max spinola access very quickly because I know we have to go to break but you said something critical when you give your mentioned the first time you said you would have to assume. That Jordan grew up in this age. Where two three ball was way more developed. Can't you make that same conversation applicable to Lebron James and both of you guys up here and killed Lebron James? About him not being able to handle the physicality of the game back in the ninety percent that that's that's you know that's not what we said. No no no I was so so you don't think so. You don't think Lebron would have the kind of success that he's having now if he played back in that era. I give you putting him. What is he makes the Pistons? A lot better depending upon the team. What I said about Lebron was that Lebron will get his same numbers because he's a physical specimen in and of itself. I said the big moments that he has folded in in the past. He would've not graduated where he was able to overcome that. Because that era would snap panel. That's what I said. That's not fair though Stephen. Guy He along the way we assume that Lebron if we assume that Lebron James grew up in this era then he will be playing a different level of county and has many ways. Mentality is today. People have gotta go today. New problems need new thinking with. Ibm retailers are turning to the cloud to restock shelves more quickly. Teachers are working with the I to rethink the classroom. Let's put smart to work see how. Ibm is helping at IBM DOT COM Slash Kovic. 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Chain did really connect to what you were you out strategize out by just a superior coach and I hope you took some lessons away from this and yeah you really meltdown. Right check out. That flint melted down. Snap now at. This is the Dow's just the end of it And millions of people saw it Guy Fieri tried to compromise you when read the clown and it was just it was bad look overall. Yeah well I mean it was rigged All your cargo Chicago and Y'all and Y'all they gave all the players they rigged it will bond you know. He's the hometown hero. He had gotten inducted into the hall of fame that day that day the morning of what the afternoon of the game he was a he was elected into the hall of fame. You guys all Chicago's you common and all of that stuff. I hear y'all CHIRP. I got bad news. Feed your better. You better hope that does not at all star weekend where the fans could be in attendance or whatever because next year I might play and I assure you I swear. F- y'all on the team again. I hope all y'all that will on will gone Steve this year or near the next time we play. I'll see y'all in personally. I Ain't GonNa be coaching alright. I'm against I'm against open it because it was rigged it was ray. Assert that back now if you want. But YOU'RE GONNA be in that hospital bed we're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA be on the show. You're not missing work for that. This is your right isn't that I'm not missing working. I'm all good good CBA barefoot barefoot on ESPN and like a UFC fighter. This is a mason ally too bad because of these circumstances but the comfort levels are amazing at Hannibal. What do you think? What do you think trips daughter for the last dance on was? What do you think of the last dance? So far Jordan duck so far the last dance last desperate a great you know I grew up in Chicago so when I was I was a kid. Earn the run so I appreciate. It was amazing experience but to see this perspective of in-depth coverage is really amazed. Thuja is awesome so related to see everything kinda covered in detail just because sports journalism wasn't the same in the nineties and just sort of see it now as an adult and having put perspective and is is really awesome. No question enhanced by the guys will want to dive into more basketball with you but since you mentioned. Mma I'm also a big UFC fan. And I know you are as well. What are your thoughts about fights returning less than two weeks? I think that you know if it's done safely everyone's tested it's all good. People WANNA sit. We wanted to see her time and enjoy. So as long as nobody's putting danger I with it. What were your thoughts watching the last dance of what were your thoughts about the whole Jordan versus the Detroit Pistons Angle? I know you said you were young. So you know what you might not have seen much of it but watching these docu series. What are your thoughts about what you're seeing as it pertained the Michael Jordan and what he had to go through to become you know just to just to be revered as he is particularly against the Pistons. What are your thoughts about that? I don't I don't blame. I say a Thomason them that much because you know getting swept after you want. Championship spread a tough. I might want to get out of here to yes. We used to beat him after. Is there something you learned? You said you were just a kid at the time. Is there something that you've learned from the dock that that has stayed with you like that that that surprised you the level of intensity it was it was just? It made me. I was inspired by. I was inspired by the dedication and the focus. Actually I'm GonNa Skip College and I'm going to go straight to the G. League because I've been inspired by the last stop. So thank you all for having me on. I hate to announce that plan for the G. League congratulations thank you. Are you one of the players? That's GONNA get about a half million terms undisclosed molly molly. Molly hold off a second a panel. Hannibal what are You Doing? You want to take home. How many jackets jacket you put on your docket as the segment allows. I'm at home. Stop my backdrop mom. Please the backtrack on assist Green. Up here looks weird. Hannibal really appreciate you being on the show. I'm glad you're just so comfortable here on live television on. Espn and on. I take you really brought to you. And congratulations on making the G. League following that trend skipping college you'll be the oldest player in the G. League but that's okay you know Bye Hannibal Thank You. Kindly be safe. We appreciate our guy. I mean we think No one thinks more Dak Prescott than Jerry Jones and myself No Mike When he signed on for Hardaway signed on was back. Prescott and You know it's just getting it done. I mean the bigger these deals get hearing all of always found that to be the case in business. The bigger the dollars get the harder they get. We believe in our track record or getting player signed. I totally believe. We'll get doc signed at the right number. That's good for Dak. Good for the cowboys. Good for this team right. That was Stephen Jones with sap. Last night emphatic. That a deal will get done with doc. Louis riddick joins US Louis. Great to see you but southern Steve. I'm starting with you here because you're cowboys are saying all the right things but they're still no deal happening. So what's really going on? Well what's really going on Molly and Louis and Max Kelvin's that these guys? I'm talking about Jerry. Stephen Jones have engaged in conduct business practices that have made them successful monetarily speaking certainly in marketing and obviously overall business but when it comes to winning football games these are the kind of things that have gotten in their way repeatedly and this is just the latest example of their foolhardiness. Now let's analyze this situation for what it is Louis Riddick. 'cause I understand that? You're keenly aware of these things even more so than. I am last time I checked in. The world is the quarterback position. You don't pay that guy yet but to play the running back ahead problems in the past gave your bad salacious headlines. Compromised Dallas Cowboy brand that we know love what happens you give him. Fifty million guaranteed nine five million dollar contract all depend demarcus Lawrence. You Got Him. All right. You Pay Jalen Smith. I'm not opposed to any of that stuff. You took care of him. Yup Grad cornerback position. Your side a bunch of dudes but to take care of everybody but the quarterback. Oh by the way. Got Rid of that head coach. Who played the role in his ineffectiveness? Arrived you WANNA point to what it did. Last year. I mean group of forty nine hundred two yards through for third touchdown. Just eleven interceptors career-wise complete sixty five point eight percent of his bats and he's taking it to the playoffs two years out of the walk. He's got a winning record. All right and by the way the season before that allows sticks games. If I remember correctly I believe that particular season that was about fifty six times. I remember correctly somehow someway Jerry Jones and Steven Jones continue to ask this young man for the house. This man continues to show up. He's a leader. He's a model citizen. He represents the Franchisees. The face of the franchise the whole Colin Kaepernick situation. He marched locks that with Jerry Jones when that could have been a dicey situation. He didn't sit up there and disrupt in it. Think this man has been a model citizen. He has before it hasn't been as that. The defense didn't show up. You GotTa Rookie Offense Coordinator last year the previous year. You got him sex with a six dollars Tom. Tommy you have asked this young man to step up and represent this credit todd and then all of a sudden you come to us and you say you're gonNA take care of him. Damage your might do it but should have been taken care of them. And as far as I'm concerned about them Dak Prescott. I gotTA modifying attitude with you for the future. I don't know how good I- relationship is going to be moving so it but I think I think he'll get over it eventually. Once that check comes in was that check the. Da Patrick Mahomes. But he wants to get paid like. He's Patrick Mahomes. But that creaking sound you're hearing is the cowboys getting ready to fold lettuces. I told you this is going to happen if you look at the Joneses. What is Jerry Jones said about? Every every one of the best deals he ever made. He said all of my best deals. I was told overpaid at the time. He didn't say I was told I over paid at the time. Because Jerry Jones does not make his money on the margins he will fold in that kind of scenario. He makes his money with pink. When you buy the Dallas cowboys and takes a big imagination. Not like Chintzy on the margins so so I always. And that's why they folded all these player negotiations. I keep bringing up Zeke. You spent the fourth overall pick in the draft on them. That's an investment of resources for sure. And then he if anything outperformed where you draft him at least at least matched where you drafted gave you a premium of other other. Guys were drafted later. Lived up to it. We're running your offense through them for a while then. It came time to pay him. They didn't want to because it really wasn't time to pay him yet. Even Z can hold held out when it's still he couldn't have by the rules of the. Nfl GOTTEN HIS Co. So the cowboys come out and say playing hard ball right. We do not intend to reset was stephen drills. We do not intend to reset the market. We're not going to be set. The market with Ezekiel Elliott. Within a week they reset the market with Ezekiel Elliott. They folded so they've come all the way to the to the one yard line right there. There first thing goal on the one and now they're going to hold it up over some small language about when he can become a free agent three years down the road. No the reason it still hasn't gotten done because at this point with the economy shrinking. And maybe that affecting players the psychology of players and their emotional state about how they feel about coming into a lot of money on certainty about the future. Everything maybe they figure. Look the worst that can happen right now. Is We'll save a few dollars by waiting because we've already basically folded all the way. My prediction is they. Won't they'll still fold before they should give back all the money. Look this is an old fashioned. I shouldn't say old-fashioned this is in a lesson in leverage. And when you have it you may only have it a few times in your career but if you do have it you recognize you have it in the case of Dak Prescott he recognizes. He's he has wielded. You use it. You exercise it. Whatever verve you WANNA put on it? That's what you do and Dacca's no hurt. That has until July. The Fifteenth Dallas Cowboys have until July the fifteenth. This is a situation where he understands exactly where he has. Dallas and to make a deal remember. It takes two to tango and we don't know exactly what is asking for. But my guess would be this if I'm sitting there and I'm Dak Prescott and I'm looking at the backup quarterbacks on my roster and I'm looking at the landscape with which I am negotiating in right now and the fact that we're not getting together anytime soon I'm not GonNa you know I don't need. I don't need to show up for mini cans. I don't have to do anything I'm sitting pat and I'm telling my representation. Let's this whole because you know what I'm GonNa take the Max Kellerman approach. They will fold because they have nowhere else to go. They had nowhere else to turn and look how this team is set up. Do you really think they want to do all this work. All this work to get this team to where it's gotten to and they're not gonNA pay me. They're not they're going to risk me not showing up. They're going to bring their new head coach. Mike McCarthy not having me not going to do it and you know what they're going to give me the terms I want. They're going to give me a shorter deal. They're going to let me get another crack at this sooner. Rather than later as far as coming back to the table and cash in in again. So if I'm Dak Prescott I'm telling you what I don't care if I'm Dak Prescott. Whatever business is we know this? We know that our job. You're negotiating on behalf of yourself. His maximize cash to me. I'm not worried about your cap. I'm not worried about what kind of straight and put you under. I'm talking about maximizing cash to me and if I'm Dak I'm sitting like this and I'm waiting and I'M GONNA I'm GonNa get I can get out of this deal. Well Louis Riddick I think I let me say this to you buddy that you got the time everything like they look like Mr Chippendales today. I appreciate that that's number one number two. I think it's important. I'd love to tell you that Iraq you ride but uncle challenge that in this and this particular secret. I am not debate in the reality that the Dallas cowboys going to retain the services of that Prescott. We know that. But there's such a thing as their male ego molly speaks to. The Molly knows this. Every woman on the planet knows this about the male ego because the bottom line is one thing that gets in our way and when you take into consideration the male ego and that male ego was permeating the situation to the point where Jerry Jones knowing. He's not getting any younger more. Dust is being collected by that birth certificate. And you got the son Steven Jones rightaid echoing Estelle newsmax. Kelman's words parody in that speech. You so eloquently disseminate to the masses. We can't ignore the reality of the comet impact that could potentially having your quarterback never use ago. The Dallas Cowboys won the Super Bowl and they decided to negotiate hardball tactics with Emmett Smith. Their great great former running back for the Dallas cowboys and they lost first. Two Games of the season and Jimmy. Johnson came up in front of the press and he was just speechless and then they find it. Saen Emmett Smith and he showed up to that press conference look in Hong ticked off at that Jerry Jones. Because he says all. You're going to play hardball with is GonNa be me. He was appalled. He couldn't blame it. And when you look at that Press Guy Right now at some point in time you gotta worry about the reality that your quarterback might sit there knowing these. Don't get no needs. Don't get paid. Nobody's GonNa make considerably more than a two point one dollars. He may last season. He's going to sit up and say you made me way all these people you took care of and you let me dangling in the wind now. We currently exit X. Relationships and stuff like that when you got that kind of stuff in your brains and then you Hawk any particularly when you're in there's going to be brass that's GonNa be paid at some point. You word you know like the saying goes though money changes everything it'll change your mind to and when that gets is easy to get his he'll get before July fifteenth. I'll tell you what I will remember this speech though because this has been eloquent Stephen or whatever your name is right now I don't know I don't know what character right now but I'm GonNa tell you this days money no state income taxes no state income and they're beautiful state of Texas. I didn't forget that either. There is the port because their money. Go along bring up way I clearly. That's when I know it goes from southern Steve to the real stephen a the one who focus on the southern Steve took soon. Louis stay. Say thank you so much GEICO. Gets you access to licensed agents twenty four seven which means that Geico is always therefore you if only everyone was always there for you like your wife when you forget your keys at work? I am looking for the spare house key. Maybe I can get through. The window turns out the alarm works. Works fast you should probably call me. Neck Geico always there for you with savings and twenty four seven access to licensed agents. Sorry to depress you guys Maxon Steven A. But it's been fifty days now officially since we've last had NBA basketball and obviously due to this hiatus. We don't know what it will return We would be in the middle of the playoffs right now. I know that's pretty disappointing to think about but Stephen. I'll start with you here. Who Do you think's going to benefit the most from this layoff assuming that we do have a season well I think that ultimately The Brooklyn Nets are going to benefit. Because you know at thirty and thirty four as a seventh seed in the Eastern Conference when the season ended Which is looking at a situation where the season is is awash to some degree with everything that has transpired that has caused the suspension of the season. What have you so many people have lost out on this but the Brooklyn Nets were still paying career still paying Kevin Durant. And when you look at what's going on with them right now Kevin Durant ultimately we'll be back healthy And in all likelihood we're GONNA find ourselves having an NBA season that may ultimately be delayed. Won't start until December assuming that there's a postseason in July going into August. I don't think they're gonNA start the season as they traditionally do in in mid to late October. I think it's going to be a bit late in that. That gives Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant even more time to be to go for next season with this season. Being truncated with this season being compromised even if there was a champion and it's great to have closure is still going to have a huge asterisk next to it because of all that transpired and so you move on from here and moving forward from here Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving both expected to be ready to go and the Brooklyn Nets will go from a bottom Seven or eighth seed in the Eastern Conference to one of if not de Topsy in the Eastern Conference the second dose to or on the floor together. I think that they've benefited tremendously from this. The Nets are great. Pick but I think the answer is the Golden State Warriors. You can lose the championship and still consider that part of the dynasty. If you're making a deep playoff run. The warriors lost in the finals to a team that was fully loaded when they didn't have K. D. and then they had an injured clay then Katie lease. But they still got steph and clay draymond green except Claes out for the season and Steph gets hurt. So they're like a bottom feeding kind of team Steven. They could wind up with the first overall pick in the draft and this season if they don't finish the season and. I think it's actually unlikely that we get team sports for the rest of this. I think it's less likely that we get baseball football more that we get the NBA. Nevertheless still say it's under fifty fifty and if that's the case then this season goes by and in a way it's like it didn't happen in the sense that there was no playoffs for the warriors to Miss Anyway but they wind up with a number one overall pick Klay Thompson. Walking around Michael Thompsons reportedly saying he felt like they don't know yet to clear the warriors doctors and all those things but he's he's okay he seems okay. We'll see by next year. If Claes back healthy steps healthy dreams healthy plus you have a top draft pick and then Stephen. They got the following season. The T. Wolves top three protective of its number four. They got it plus role draft pick. And if if it is top three so they don't have the thought to be protected. The next season twenty twenty two they get an unprotected so if the walls don't have a good season for the first pick again the warriors are setup so lovely going forward and in the meantime didn't have to deal with this season and get their crew back next year. This really helps them. Well Max the reason I bring up the warriors because that was this situation. Pre Corona Virus Not just now So that's the only reason that I didn't pick the warriors I love that. Pick what you're saying about them because of the return of Klay Thompson. The fully healthy steph curry had already returned anyway But I I get where you're coming from. I was just looking at it. Feeding directly off of the corona virus forcing the suspension of the season. What you highlighted about. The Golden State Warriors was applicable to this situation whether there was a suspension of the season or not in the case of the Brooklyn Nets. The fact that the season has been suspended. You'RE THIRTY AND THIRTY FOUR. Everybody's recognizes very conspicuous that Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving on not there and available to you in this particular instance. The season the suspended there would be an asterisk next to the season in the event that it continued and by the way. I'm very confident I call it what you want. But I'm I'm not as confident in the M A major league baseball and other sports Max but I'm very confident that from two four two month period could be basketball this summer. Yes I am. I'm very happy about that. And my confidence is elevating my competences elevating more and more each day only as it pertains to the NBA. Having said all of that. If you're the Brooklyn Nets and Kevin Durant and Carby. Irvine get to have additional time to get healthy. They return combined with the fact that this season is definitely compromised for those lower wrong teams right now. Here might be a priority for the LAKERS CLIPPERS. Denver teams like that Milwaukee etc before the low around teams. This season is awash so with that as a reality really helps Brooklyn with Syrian Kevin. Durant no doubt it does. I mean the two teams it helps the most obviously because of injury or the nets or the warriors. The reason I favor the warriors is Jerry West arranged it so that the Lakers had the number one overall pick they already have magic and Kareem may also wound up with James Worthy or the Spurs. They have this powerhouse team with David Robinson but because of injury they wanted number one overall pick it's Tim Duncan Robinson Doug and that's what the warriors remind me of right now except that unlike the spurs the season that they would have to suffer through to get that pick. They don't even have to play it. It may not even know what your list of Max but Max you know what I think. You're missing missing. The evaluation process that you customarily go through that has now been compromised because of lack of access due to the CORONA VIRUS. So in other words you've got a top pick and you. WanNa make sure you utilize that top pick effectively and make the right decision. I'm not questioning that. The warriors capable they're listed there. Go to the gold standard right now. But I also think it's important to highlight the fact that how the corona viruses compromised the whole evaluation process. If they were worried about that with the NFL imagine how worried about that. They would basketball because of all of this as it pertains to the draft and making sure you you make the right selection all right. Let's leave it there guys. Let's go to New Orleans to talk a little football here. Jameis Winston officially a part of WHO DAT nation after signing a one year. Deal with the saints and he will be backing up. Drew brees with tastes. Inhale Jamie spoke to the media yesterday about his new mindset on a day there's GonNa be no is that I'm not the gap myself. I'm still the Guy I'm gonNA approach every day like like I'm the guy and I think that's what the quarterback room breeds of like when you when you see what happened last year with with the amount of playtime tastes on the Teddy Dot. I'm not saying that I'M GONNA speak that this year but those guys were prepared and in destler. I'm looking I'M GONNA be prepared for whatever Max and my vantage point. He's saying the right things. There are Jameis Winston days as a starting quarterback officially over. I do think they are and I think the reason you see so many other backup quarterbacks who are not very good paid more than him. It's not the upside. That people know Winston has big upside as a backup. You can put him in. Maybe you can win some games for US instead of giving the game away. But how can you rely on? A guy was not. He wasn't playing for some for for a great coach. How can you rely on with weapons? How can rely on? A guy throws thirty interceptions one hundred twelve points to the other team. So he's going to have to earn that chance to be a starter. I suspect he's going to get a pretty quick hook if he starts throwing interceptions and given his game and this goes back to college for as many spectacular things that he does he does spectacular things for the other team to I. I don't mean like you'll never start another game. I mean sustain at least the full season is someone starter. I don't see it. Well I disagree with you. I think he has a chance to start. I think number one by default Max because I think there are a few questionable quarterbacks in the national football league who are starting for respective teams. I think there's a flute is a few teams that are looking for legitimate. Starters secondly throwing thirty interceptions we all know how I feel about James how he should be the defensive player of the year because of the thirty interceptions from a quarterback position but he also to fifty one hundred yards plus and thirty three touchdowns. And I think that you can't ignore that thirdly I think he's learned from the error of his ways. I actually think that he's a much much better person. And he should be given the benefit of the doubt that regard humility ultimately can drop us. All let's give him an opportunity to showcase that and last but not least. I cannot emphasize enough. What a Fan I am of drew brees. I'm not talking about just. The greatness of drew brees is a quarterback. I'm talking about as a person. He's a leader. He's highly intelligent. He knows the game of football inside and out. He's the conduct guy capable of making you want to listen to him. He has that kind of personality. And that kind of affect on people and I think James Whitson being around that can be the sponge that he needs to be and learn how to be so much better in so many ways as a quarterback and as a person playing behind drew brees and I think James Winston will benefit from that. I liked the breeze point. I don't know if that saves his career but I liked that point and Steven at you made a good point before that guys like Jim Thorpe Dion Sanders. Great two way players. Why can't Jameis Winston also one day be in the hall of fame as a great two way player thirty touchdowns for your team and the other team? That's one of the great players of all time. Let me give you this really quick. You're unbelieveable Arfan tweeted the day. This is from flight snowfield. Who Does James Benefit more from? Isn't Sean Payton or drew brees Stephen a debris for the reasons that I just thought related. Respect profoundly Sean Payton. Don't get me wrong. But it's drew brees and his direct personal relationship with James. Believe he will develop. That is going to take the reins back. We agree about that. I'd say it's breeze. Only because Janus Winstons had coaching and weapons. In the past. It has not been great but he hasn't been the understudy to a future hall of Famer. Who Still Great and willing to mentor. That's what he's got now. All right thank you play snowfields for sending that in have a good one guys. We'll see all tomorrow.

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May 24, 2020: Ben Smith on his scrutiny of Ronan Farrow's reporting; Dan Abrams on decision to publish column by Matt Lauer

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May 24, 2020: Ben Smith on his scrutiny of Ronan Farrow's reporting; Dan Abrams on decision to publish column by Matt Lauer

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Close a story that has the media were buzzing a New York Times column. Taking on Ronan Farrow. The Times columnist. Ben Smith will be here to explain what he found and later media hype founder. Abrahams will be here as well. He's GONNA share it why he decided to publish a new column by Matt. Lauer lower went and reinvestigated some of the accusations against him all that and more coming up in the next few minutes. But let's begin by looking to the future. What will historians say about this moment? How will history books record this time? Nobody knows for sure. But I think we've already seen heroes emerge and also some villains in the midst of this pandemic this weekend the New York Times which likes to think of itself as the first rough draft of history is trying to fight coronavirus fatigue and pay proper tribute to those. We've lost today's from page to see it. There is a list of American covid nineteen victims and it goes on and on for three more pages names and brief descriptions of thousand lives lost and the total here. The thousand is just one percent of the nearly one hundred thousand confirmed dead in America. I think the history bucks decades from now. We'll grapple with a lot. They're going to grapple with the differing death rates from country to country. The deadly differences between early safety measures and delayed responses. The unequal treatment of vulnerable populations like nursing home residence. Historians are to look back at late. February and early March. And they're going to say what were they thinking. Who was in charge? They will sift through all tweets and they will see who was in charge they will see president trump. They will see. The trump waited deeper and deeper into disinformation distraction as the death. Toll rose the history books will show that the president modeled worst practices instead of best practices. He flouted safety guidelines this week and refused to keep his mask on. Even Adam Manufacturing plant where it was required the only photos of trump model two masked were taken by anonymous sources and like kind of out to the press. Historians will show that. The president undermined his own government by downplaying the threat and hyping unproven solutions. They will note the thrill in his voice. When he said he was taking hydrated. Hydroxy chloroquine despite mounting evidence. It doesn't work against cove in nineteen and could in fact be harmful this story. Books will also note his obsession with the press like when he said I was just waiting to see her eyes light up when he said he was taking and his comment that he didn't WanNa give the press. The pleasure of seeing him with the mask on historians will also let note. Americans didn't know what to believe Americans who were confused by the presence conduct who were distracted by his deep stay conspiracy rhetoric. They will note that. The president had entire propaganda networks added disposal to help him change the subject. They will note how sad it was that everything. Even doctors and researchers were placed on a pro-trump or anti-trump spectrum you're there pro-trump or anti-trump and I think historians also address why so many Republican leaders to sit there silently while the president's conduct went from alarming to appalling and beyond maybe this doesn't belong in a history book. Maybe it's pathetic. The president trump is continuing to accuse. Msnbc's Joe Scarborough of being a murderer and this weekend trump is urging people to investigate it. This claim was investigated and debunked twenty years ago. But he's out there sharing it just like sharing magazine via twitter posts balking. Nc Policies face and Stacey Abrams weight and Hillary Clinton so on Friday night. The president called New York Times editor. Dean became one of the great lines of journalism. One of the dumbest men in journalism. No there's nothing about putting these names on the front page. It's pretty smart. It's a nod to history because we don't have to wait twenty or thirty years to read this three deep down inside. We know the story right now so we shouldn't mince words when we talk about it. I think it helps to take a list to make list to take stock of all of the Aber into behavior. That happens day to day because incredible leaders have risen up from this tragedy. Think about the past two to three months of this pandemic and the leaders. We've seen emerge some have risen while others have sunk to new lows historian. Someday we'll say everyone had to decide for themselves. How low would they go to? What would they sink? What about you accusing people in murder isn't too low? What is the Balancing Act for? The press is that we have to document leadership failures in the face of a crisis to be very clear about it but not lower ourselves and fail the audience in on that front. You should hold us accountable with me. Now is the chairman of the Renewed Democracy Initiative an author and former world chess champion Garry Kasparov Gary. This three year long situation where the president says something new outrageous every day. You predicted this at the very outset of the trump presidency. You said there will be a crisis every day. Are there more or fewer crises than you expected. No more no less exactly the expect because that's the wife off the to do was a crisis is to come up with a new crisis and just to make you forget you previous law. So that's why said crisis almost every week? The problem trump is was now is ninety two big to distract. And that's why he's getting crazy and crazy. Gary you wrote on twitter this week that the president's doing is lowering the bar for all for everyone. Can you tell me more about that again? It's typical you know I'm bad but everybody's back we'll all back so biden. All of a sudden is corrupt in Ukraine to cover a trance worldwide. Corruption Obama is incompetent to cover trump's incompetence. So that's that's typical technique and and it's all about destruction. It's all about lowering bars and it has been working for trump for for quite a while but now he's dealing with the virus that doesn't go away so he could blow up. He could distract attention for every crisis but he cannot blob the virus. And that's why I think things could get even worse because if crazy tweets do not work crazy. Actions will follow warnings about the election about mail in ballots being rigged all of this nonsense. The runs counter to the facts. It's going to be a very long six months. Between now and November. He's going to try to de-legitimize the election ahead of time and I predict it will if numbers on the looking good for in and so far. It's not working. The way expected he will. He will be getting crazy and crazy. And that's why I think this election will will be very unorthodox and so we should expect the worst and dealing with people like trump. You should prepare for the loss if it can happen. Warped as if it's happened. Let me ask you about his. Treatment of pro trump media seemed to give up the game a few days ago by tweeting out to the world about Fox News saying contrary to what a lot of you think Fox News is not helping me when reelection and then he went on to criticize some of the Democratic guests anchors. He doesn't like on Fox called one Williams and dummies name calling. But this idea that he's basically saying I think Fox News is in my camp. They're just not doing a good enough job. It's kind of. It's making the the quiet part out loud. Isn't it yes? But he's he's getting more and more desperate because he's typical. Tactic is no longer working. Gary thank you so much for being here. Great to see you. Follow Gary on twitter great tweets from Gary as well. I want to show you one more thing from the White House. Press briefing that took place the other day because this was absolutely sinful. This was White House. Press Secretary Kaley. Mcenaney trying to deflect reporters questions about safety by suggesting reporters don't care about religion. They don't want to go to church. They don't care about worshiping and that's why they were questioning or challenging the president's comments about opening up the churches. Let's watch what Kelly said boy? It's interesting to be in a room that desperately wants to seem to see these churches and houses of worship stay close president yes gas the a church. I'm dying to go through the questions that we're asking. You would like to ask the President and Dr Earth. Is it safe? Thank you Jeff Mason. For saying what so many were thinking in that moment and as for Keighley mcenaney. She's going to stay in this job and have any respect from the press corps. She can't question the faith of the people she works with Let's turn to some front pages and some television news segments now about Memorial Day weekend and about this some front pages or featuring beachgoers. Boogie borders while at the same time. Others are carrying warnings like this one hospital officials say in the cove. Nineteen crisis is far from over. These are the tensions and contradictions of this Memorial Day weekend. You've got FDA Commissioner Steven Hahn tweeting a reminder that the virus is not yet contained. He says social distancing hand and wearing masks protect us all. He's they're saying that on twitter but of course he is president does what his boss does. President trump doesn't always match that messaging my questions about the media's coverage this weekend to the boardwalk scenes and the beach scenes represent. What's really happening for these out liars because there's a lot to be praised about how people have adapted to this crisis. We see gatherings in cars instead of him buildings. We see socially distanced graduation ceremonies. Were seeing drive in cinemas opening up instead of regular theaters so on and so on. Americans and people all around the world are proven to be very adaptable in the midst of this pandemic. But let's make sure the cameras on that as well. Let's discuss this. With staff. Writer for the Atlantic. Ayaan out with a big news story about the Patchwork Pandemic and your times. Thomas Jennifer. Senor is here as well. For the Atlantic. This patchwork pandemic can you tell me what that means so different parts of the US are experiencing this pandemic in very different ways In some places like New York famously. The virus struck really hard but currently waning. In other places it is only just taking off so people are getting this really district experience. And that is it's leading to These discrepancies in what we're seeing in the news where some people are still staying at home. Others flocking to the outdoors again. And I think we need to be really mindful of that when we think about the coverage All of the virus The Americans are actually strangely. United in their attitudes ended behaviors opinion. Polls and other shove as shown that upwards of seventy percent of people support measures like social distancing mask-wearing you can't get seventy percent of Americans to agree on anything but a Lotta Margaret on this and that stands in stark contrast to these views of people to breaking a public health advice going out and being in cautious that disparity in spectacle is one hundred politics but it to me is is contributing to a different view a standing of the pandemic right like A. It seems like my neighbors are all going to the Bates so maybe I should go to the beach. But you're saying that these scenes on television. This weekend are apparently the exception. I think it's obvious. One being covered and much more talent genyk much more compelling to show someone flocking out into a public space than to show for example me sitting at home following guidelines and yet the latter is probably more apart more reflective of what most Americans are actually doing and I think that that discrepancy between what is actually the majority and what is more more. More telegenic is is a problem. Well I'll I'll do this for fifteen seconds. I'll be part of the problem. Here is a viral social media video from the ozarks from Missouri. All of these partygoers playing in the pool. I've seen this spreading on twitter this weekend with the lottery actions very differing reactions to these sorts of scenes because obviously they are not abiding by what health officials are sane but these videos are going to circulate head and I guess it's incumbent on everybody on twitter on social media and TV newsrooms to keep it in perspective right and not overreacting. Is that fair? That's exactly I think providing the context that's necessary to Interpret all of this breaking stuff is going to be crucially important not just now but as we go onto further months of this pandemic. This problem isn't just going to be over by Memorial Day. It's going to be with Much of the rest of the year and I think we need to adopt our practices dealing with the crisis that is persistent and lingering and patchworked Jennifer senior. You've been reading about the president. In his handling of this patchwork pandemic I wonder what you make of mask engage these sorts of moments where he runs contrary to public health officials recommendations. What do I make of it? I I mean I think that on some level it's a it's a sign of the fact that trump. There's this compromise is the kind of image that he wants to project. He wants to just run. He sees a on some level. It seems to me slightly emasculating. To wear a mask. He likes him. He looks behind his resolute desk. I think that there is also some strange part of trump. That doesn't quite believe things he can't see his whole kind of attitude toward the beginning has been one since the beginning has been slightly puzzling to me in that he'll say well if it becomes a problem will deal with it and the second thing is visibly a problem. It's too late to deal with it. So there is some part of me that thinks that any kind of prophylactic measure at all to him doesn't compute in a weird way interesting Antezana. Yeah Yeah and I think that generally this is a larger obstacle when we look at the media coverage I mean and was just talking about exactly this idea you know. We've been hampered from the beginning by what we can see and what we can't see general in this pandemic. It's very seductive to cover a group of people protesting outside the State or party United Beach and not an and it's very until Genyk to sit there and to watch me in my pajamas making cakes for my kid and not going out. And it's it's the same way that you can't capture the full breadth of what's going on in hospital during this pandemic either because you're using valuable because you're running afoul of privacy laws so you're not giving everybody the full measure of just had I are. It is and what the timescale of and suffering looks like which is also happening inside homes. He can't see so trump sort of walking out naked into the war part of the strange cognitive inability of ours to sort of like go with what we can't what we can't harms literally to this day are not registering to you word. A month ago saying Impreza Pessimism. Why sometimes it helps to expect the worst in a moment like this but that was a month ago. Are you still pretty pessimistic today? Yeah I was curious advocate Ed as a science writer. You're studying this every day. Where are you on the optimism pessimism scale the think the facts of the matter forces to be but I think that's a matter of political will right I think it some? It's a question of whether or leaders can rise to the challenge. Now as I wrote in the Petro Pandemic a lot of local leaders are doing their best and doing good job but that is an evenly distributed a request federal coordination on not optimistic. That we're going to get it but like if you want me to say something optimistic about this. This is not some really super weird impossible to do with disease. We've seen measures that work in different places and they are the standard public health repertoire. That people have been dealing with for over a century testing tracing isolating. It's not rocket science and also like social interventions. That can do a lot of good paint. Sick leave hazard pay. All of these things can make a huge difference store ability to fight the virus. We really just need to pull to get our act together and ramp these things up like the. The endgame shouldn't be impossible. It's on pessimism stems from fake and weather out political system can rise to the challenge adequately Ayaan Jennifer senior. Thank you both very much a quick plug here for our nightly newsletter. You can find their work and so much more if you sign up for our free night the newsletter at CNN dot slash reliable You can get all the latest from the media. World delivered your inbox every night. Coming up next you're reliable sources why the old adage about crossing your ts and dotting. Your is is so important. And Why New York Times Media Com has been Smith is now questioning. Ronin Farrow's reporting here from Ben Smith in a moment. We expect a lot from our homes. They're more than a place to hang your hat. Your home is where you try your handed gardening and new recipes rest and recharge work and play. And that's why at home advisor were committed to keeping your home up and running no matter what from the projects that creep up on you like appliance repairs Gutter cleanings and Fox and fixes to the ones you look forward to like creating your very own backyard. Retreat worthy of a summer staycationing. We'll find a local pros to help you get the job done right. Use the home advisor APP day or night to get matched with the best pros for your projects. 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What does that mean with me? Now to talk about is the forementioned media columnist Ben Smith who started the New York Times a few months ago. A formerly the editor in chief of Buzzfeed News. Then what is resistance journalism? Think it's something that every reporter feels to some degree which is that there are these incredibly powerful narratives many of them. I think broadly true that kind of drive the media conversation drive social media and that. There's a strong impulse to to to play to them in every case to always sort of fulfill that expectation. I mean the story. I begin with in peace this week and in this is certainly not something that is running pharaohs. The only person who does and I think probably every reporter feels this gravitational pull in some ways but the story I began with was was about a story about sort of suggestion of a cover up the Department of Treasury of sensitive files regarding Michael Co and the headline was that missing files had motivated this this high profile leak of Michael Collins Financial Information and the story just turned out not to be true at all it was a Michael Albany. Hit Gotten this guy. Abyss Junior Junior Analyst who is his defense lawyer put it was too much cable news to To leave him some files and and it got spun into sort of recognizable sympathetic narrative in a way that was a huge splash on the internet. But just kind of dissolved. It turned out that the missing it all they were. They were restricted at somebody. Who'd went looking for them. Hit a notice that basically said if you need these call Graham so perhaps they source or several sources lead fairer. Straying doesn't that happened. Everybody absolutely happens to everyone. And I think and I was actually surprised that that wasn't New Yorkers defensive that story which is what we we you know we got it wrong the but I think if you read the writing of the story there is a caveat you know maybe this could just be that. They were restricted. But even in that case Anonymous sources indicate. That would be a bombshell. And you know that every every piece of ends toward confirming sort of people's expectations by the way not wrong and torch in spirit of your main critiques of Eras Book Catching Kill is that he suggests conspiracy but it doesn't always prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there is a conspiracy. But you know doesn't know fares arguments. He presents the evidence. What's the reader decide? And he says that's good enough that he doesn't go beyond the facts. I think that's I think if I'm not sure he actually quite said that but I think that is actually like jobs. I think he'd reading catching field but again. This isn't something specific to his work. Maybe he's just the highest profile practitioner for Instance Hillary Clinton's spokesman calls him And he describes it as ominous later says it was an instance of power protecting power justice. Hillary Clinton is you know taking Harvey Weinstein side. And there's just really no evidence that that happened at all the theory that many many Americans are very eager to believe that. There are these conspiracies of powerful people against them by the way. That's quite true. But it's it's gotta prove you can't just sort of imply at and then and then when called on your implication say hey I never literally said it and to take legalistic defenses. There are a lot of people including people who really admire Ronan Farrow and. I want to be clear. You're saying he's on a fabulous is not making stuff up. You just seem to be saying. Sometimes he doesn't Cross T.'s and dotted is. That's essentially your critique. Is that right I mean? That's a quote from from Canada. Who's I think of a friend in mentor of Rodents? And I think in the case for him is that to the degree he contributed to the follow up Harvey Weinstein. Who is a monster? That was a great service and I wouldn't ever WanNa take that away from her and there are other stories as well but he broke wide open that he added important reporting on Let Me Show. Ronin tweet in response to some of this New Yorker supported him express support for him and Ferrero tweeted out with a simple. I stand by my reporting. Do you think there is a lesson for journalism students or aspiring journalists? In in what you've looked at the last week you know I'm not. I'm not trying to professor here talking then. I mean from my perspective and this is an argument we you and I had for a long time and is probably. I probably don't totally agree with the New York. Times on all the all these things but you just you should are on the side of transparency. Should write what you know and what you don't know you should show the readers to the degree you can what you've got. I think this has come up around the Tara Reid story in a certain way to I just think that audiences look so closely at us in enter examining not just what we find but how we find it so intensely that that that you shouldn't try to spend people let me give you an example involving your paper that incredible front page this morning with a thousand names of covid. Nineteen victims. Some sluice on the Internet found. That one of the thousand names died of a homicide not of covid nineteen and then always trolls on twitter. Tried to act like the entire thing was discredited that it was all fake news now. Of course shame on them for trying to take one error and smearing the entire in times with it. But that's the world we live in isn't it? They have these bad faith. Actors the take good reporting good but flawed reporting and try to smear with it. I'm not sure about good faith. In bad faith I think all reporting. It's going to be flawed. It's always the best we can do. It's always we're trying to get you the as much as we know when we know it and I think to the degree that we pretend otherwise that sets us up for kind of criticism when you know every every journalistic project has errors. Sometimes you get things totally wrong. Often you get things a little raw in the best you can do is correct them as fast as you can. I think we ought to be straight with. Our audience is about that but my concerns. We live in an environment where any errors turned into a conspiracy and turned into a proof of a plot. And that's damaging. I just don't know how to fight back against that though. I don't know how to show folks. The journalists are mostly in good faith and I do think that there is broadly this moment when people in this unbelievably disoriented kind of moment are looking for wheels within wheels in one of the really strange things to me for over working for the New York Times where I just arrived but also about this stories that everything you write is interpreted through these kind of institutional motives and it was incredibly widely shared tweet suggesting I do not think Ronin believes the Serbs against it at all but that that Smith must have written this because Pharaoh has something coming about the New York Times this is a sort of institutional defensive maneuver in on one hand. I mean I think for someone WHO's not paying. You know you can see why that has a certain logic to it. And why and how compelling logic is and I think we kind of have to resist that kind of Deduction Ben. Thank you for being here. It turns out that former tastes host Matt. Lauer had also been scrutinizing Pharaohs Work and when Smith's column came out lower then came out with a column of Zone saying Pharaoh betrayed the truth to accomplish his quote activist goals. How does lower back up his claims? And why did media publishes called Media Founder? Dan Abrahams of his next. How do you date during a global pandemic seriously? How do you do it? I'm poppy harlow. And this week on boss files. I talk with Whitney. Wolford heard the founder and CEO of the dating APP bumble. Her Company has had to totally rethink their approach to facilitating human connection. As I dates move online we get into how they're adding new features in the APP developing their own health and safety recommendations and whether or not virtual dating is here to stay. Listen to our conversation on the latest episode of Boss Files. Wherever you get your podcasts. That Ben's mecom in the New York Times about Ronan Farrow prompted kind of a response of sorts from former. Nbc's Today Show Anchor. Matt Lauer. Lower of course was fired in November. Twenty Seventeen For what the network said at the time was inappropriate sexual behavior with a colleague that colleague later told Pharaoh in the book catch and kill. That lower raped her. During the Sochi Olympics in Russia in two thousand fourteen lower has admitted to wrongdoing but his absolutely denied any rape allegation any unwanted sexual contact and he has spoken out in a column that was published. This week by mediate Ben Smith's column said is Ronan Farrow. Too GOOD TO BE TRUE. Lower says yes. Farrow is indeed too good to be true. Let's more about this with Dan. Abrams the founder of Media Light Dan. Your correspondent legal analyst. Abc News founder of the and Crime Network and host of the Dan Abrahams show on Sirius. Xm So you think about these legal and media all the time. Dan and I WANNA know why you thought it was appropriate to publish the column because media critic Tom Jones for example the poynter institute said he would welcome a chance to interview lower for the didn't think it was appropriate just to publish lowers column. Why did you think it was? Yeah so this was definitely a controversial piece. But I'm not convinced that the decision to publish was was that controversial. I run a a media site we cover media critique and what Matt Lauer did is he reached out to four different witnesses who were cited in Ronin Farrow's book and checked with them as to whether Ronan Farrow talk to them and whether the accounts that were described in Farrow's book we're accurate and according to all four of them they weren't Ronan Farrow hadn't them And these were critical pieces to the story about what Ronan Farrow was telling about. What happened to Matt Lauer Now? That doesn't mean that by publishing somehow a defense of math. Lower it simply saying that this is news worthy. This was fact checked with regard to the four people that not lower said that he spoke to and we felt that it was certainly worthy of publication. That Matt Lauer should be able to defend himself. But that doesn't mean that Ronan Farrow loses any of the credit that he deserves. He deserves enormous credit of the work that he's done but I also think that he's got question to answer in connection with what not lower has been saying. Look Pharaoh didn't take down Matt Lauer Matt Lauer took down himself essentially and fairer then followed up with additional reporting with interview Brooke Nevels the Accuser. Who described this alleged rape for example? Here's what lower focuses in on the column he says you know. According to catch and kill Neville says that she broke up with her boyfriend over her anguish about the encounter with lower but according to lower fair did not call that ex-boyfriend and talk to the ex boyfriend. So those are the sorts of issues. That lower is raising media your site. Then follow it up with these individuals like the ex boyfriend so you all essentially fact. Checked lowers re reporting. Is that right right? Louie treated it the way we would any opinion piece where someone makes these sorts of allegations. Right he's citing four conversations that he claimed he had with critical people that undermine Ronan Farrow's reporting we weren't just going to publish it and take Matt Lauer's word for it. They spoke to these people so before publishing they reached out to these four individuals. These four witnesses who are cited Enron's book to find out if not lowers account was accurate and they said that it was against that doesn't answer the ultimate question here but from the media critique perspective. I think that there's no question that it was worthy of publication and adds more grays to the to the black white. I suppose what I wonder is. Are we heading into a world where men who have been accused in this me too movement are going to re report? The stories and in some cases were poured on their accusers. I mean look. This is this. I don't think can be compared for example people have said to me the main critique. I've gotten this. Why did you want to published Matt Lauer Story at all? I don't WanNa hear from that lower. The only thing I would say to those people is I would. I would ask that. You read it first before you critique it because this isn't just like publishing piece by Harvey Weinstein thing. I didn't do it. This is a media important I think. Media Critique of what was the essential and key allegation against Matt Lauer? And he's saying look about the reporting on this about the witnesses who are cited to bolster the account. They didn't say what the book suggests that they said or this didn't happen as the book suggest that had happened. And if you care about accuracy and you care about journalism I think that's important and again I'll say it you know Ronan Farrow's done a terrific job of amplifying important voices here but I think it's for that same reason that he ought to at least respond to the specific of lowers of response. And also the more of the specifics. The guard defense and for the record affair tweeted this about the column by Matt. Lauer said we put it up on screen as well. He said I'll have to say is Matt Lauer just wrong catch and kill was thoroughly reported in fact including with Matt. Lauer himself but as I said Dan he didn't address those other questions about who he didn't call because they didn't call for the story. He it interest any of the specifics and by the way we wrote a separate pee. On Pharaohs denial. We did a whole piece of what is published thing etc. So it's not as if we're we're trying to pick aside here is just about doing media critique in media now then you can find it on media DOT COM. Dan Thank you very much coming up here on. The program is president. Trump's dream of actually state run TV coming true we will impact the president's pick to lead an obscure That spends your tax dollars and this week. He got one step closer to the job for champions United for Kobe. Nineteen Relief Tiger Woods in Peyton manning versus Phil Mickelson and Tom Brady. Capra ones the match champions for charity may twenty four th at three PM on TNT. Boys of America is funded by the American government but it's probably independent president. Trump doesn't seem to like that he seems to be trying to gain control of and he took a step in that direction this week. Cnn someone's body has the story for us. Presidents nominee conservative filmmaker. Michael Pack friend a former trump strategist and right wing lightning Rod Steve Bannon president trump's nominee to lead the US Agency for global media which oversees the VOA packs nomination is moving forward on Capitol Hill. Even as new questions are being raised over his finances. The DC Attorney General. Now investigating the nonprofit run by pack for possible misuse of funds. According to Senator Menendez why are we voting on a nominee who is the subject of an investigation for unlawful self-enrichment? This really the person you want running a US government agency with a budget of almost a billion dollars. Cnn's calls to pack have not been returned. It's just the latest development in a nomination that has languished for two years. I feel called back to international broadcasting. America's adversaries has stepped up their propaganda and disinformation efforts. But now as trump focus his his. Ira Increasingly on the view. Way Voice of America is run in a terrible manner terrible. They're not the voice of America. The opposite of the Voice of America the White House website even accusing via way of spreading Chinese propaganda. It's coronavirus coverage so to has president. Trump focused his sites on getting pack into the position and he's been sucking committee for two years preventing us for managing the Voice of America. Very important. And if you heard what's coming out of the Voice of America it's disgusting with fears. That trump might try to convert the video way into a megaphone for his policies abroad. Democrats are concerned about packs independent. I guess it comes down to. We need to say no when you get a call from a political person telling journalists what to do but I will look for ways to make sure saying you know I think so I have said No. Before on Capitol Hill. These political dynamics spilling out into a contentious meeting Thursday of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee with Republicans pushing forward on pack nomination the Chairman. Holding the meeting off camera. Democrats leader releasing their own. Video of the meeting was the chair. Please don't interrupt right and made repeated attempts to block a vote in the committee Mr Chairman. I moved to postpone the committee. Vote on Michael Pack. The committee ultimately voting along party lines to advance packs nomination out of the committee. Now just one step away from final confirmation in the full Senate. The Republican majority of the Foreign Relations Committee is turning the cameras off so the press and the public can't see what they're doing giving promotion to St Bannon's business partner in the middle of a health crisis and sources within the view. As tell me that there's a sense of apprehension about what comes next and adding to that concern. Michael Pack would potentially have unilateral control over the agency. There were some changes made in the final few months of the Obama Administration. They actually disbanded a bipartisan. Report replace that with an advisory board it was all meant to make things move more efficiency efficiently within the agency but it also means that there will be less of a firewall. If Unlikely and Michael Pack is confirmed Brian and someone do we know. How long do we know when that Senate but will happen as of now Brian? The Senate is on recess. Next Week. He was pushed through the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on Thursday. Senate Majority Leader Mitch. Mcconnell has been mum so far as to win he will take that final confirmation for vote in the floor of the Senate right got it. Thank you so much. Matt Armstrong is a former governor from the broadcasting board of governors now known as the US Agency for Global Media. That's the federal agency that oversees funding for the Voice of America and other american-backed broadcasting outlets around the world. Thanks for joining me. Tell me about why you're so concerned about Michael. Michael Packs appointment his nomination and now is through the Senate committee on the way to take over the. Us agents have a global media. Thanks so they concerns here. The AGM is one of the largest global media companies. There is it's operating in something around fifty eight languages and over a hundred countries in every medium you can think of whether it's Radio Internet book On the web and Social Media Internet At everything the issue here is that the CEO has complete control over the hiring and firing of the presidents of radio. Free Europe Radio Liberty Radio Free Asia Middle East broadcast networks using the sister agencies to be away and via ways Director the head of the away is higher bull and fireable by offense personal management. Last time I checked the directors non-career Senior Executive Service is action which is bureaucratic speak for. They serve at the pleasure of opium which is a executive branch agency. So if you have a leader here that is not connected to journalism in. It does not believe in be away and his sister networks to be The the voice for these countries that they operated which are countries that commercial media cannot or will not go to and do not report from they may broadcast to but not on the ground. This is going to Hinder this agency the whole purpose of the agencies to be what we might call foreign internal defense. That's a military concept but this is to provide the local the people on the ground understanding of what democratic principles our accountability of Government. Good Governance Justice and that requires freedom of the press requires the freedom to listen in the freedom to speak. And that's the away and its sister. Properties provide to these these audiences. And you're coming out this as a former board member and as a Republican former board member of this organization so with all this mind is this the president trying to have actually state run TV. Actually STATE RUN. Tv can control as I think. What's going on here behind the scenes? I think there's a little bit of that I this whole conversation is because the Paseo Went behind the boards. Back misrepresented the board and misrepresentative boards position to lobby foreign successively. Eliminate Aboard Board. If we still had the broadcasting board of governors which was which was an organization that didn't need to be reformed the C O would not be a political appointee by the White House the intent of hot of creating the central. Ceo Position was that they would be hired and fired by the board and that would provide the political insulation from the White House and prevent this this entire conversation from happening So this is a firewall issue. That's a real problem. I don't know if this is really a situation where the White House wants to create this entity that as you framed it and the reason why I that is because pack was I the announcement to intend to nominate him. Came in twenty seventeen. He was he was nominated. The first time in twenty eighteen there was a real lack of interest to push through. The Senate has confirmed a whole number. Great number of people and they haven't pushed him through through his nomination to do some other things. There's just not a lot of interest and so the reason why I'm not sure I think the White House is just in it for the fight. Because as I said they could fire the V away director at their at their pleasure and they could if they really were serious they could have pushed through a a nominee as a push through plenty of other nominees to head this agency but they have not so. I think this is just blown up recently. Because somebody's calling in a favor rushing toward the end of the administration. I see that's interesting. It's strange how these things play out. And what the actual motivations are. Because then you've got all of these journalists that are worried about what's going to happen and ultimately that's what matters whether there should be. They should be. I think they should be worried. Because this is a tone that the town tom the The away defenders will cite the video a charter which is enshrined in law. But the charter is a set of principles it sends that in the in the in the legislation these are operating principles There are all sorts of manners matter in ways that the the away director can influence the operations of the away. One thing I wanNA point out is that this this attack from the White House on the away is aimed at via away. English and the English service is a relatively small service in does not represent the great number of services at via way or the other languages at the other at the sister networks and these operated in their own own way. Some of them are absolutely terrific. I WANNA point out that the respect for these services. Great or example be away that Ukrainian reporter men reporter she was asked by Ukraine to To moderate a presidential debate back when not too long ago so these reporters are from live in in are deeply engaged with these These countries in the services that they operated so think of it as a problem in the US of the elimination of local reporting the local beat reporter. That's what a v. way are the our L. Arfan that that's what they provide to these countries that we deem important to our foreign policy to our national security and the CEO who has the absolute Ability to hire and fire the presidents of our our our offense and can influence a higher on fire of the away director and office Cuban broadcasting this they can really shape how the agency reports and. Let's keep in mind here too that there's a real lack oversight from Congress. So there's I experienced that when I was on board and understand finding out as well as my previous roles. There's just not a lot of interest and a lot of attention. Some members are deeply interested in highly is wonderful but there aren't enough and so this is a as you opened up before this is an obscure agency it. Should it be critically important to our national security? I agree with you. It should not be obscure. I'm glad you're here to to help us explain it. We're out of time here on TV. But we want to remind you about our weekly podcast Special programming on our podcast. This week's guest is NPR's head of News Nancy Barnes s VP of news editorial directly director. Npr here about how her organization is covering the pandemic It quickly a reminder as well for an interesting event happening later today on some of CNN. Sister Channels Tiger Woods peyton manning Phil Mickelson and Tom Brady are playing. Capital One's the match champions for charity at three. 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E31: Honey Bee cocktail, Vanessa Honey Malone, and Ira Einhorn aka The Unicorn Killer

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E31: Honey Bee cocktail, Vanessa Honey Malone, and Ira Einhorn aka The Unicorn Killer

"Hey, guys. You are listening to killer cocktails where the drinks are stiff, but the bodies are stiffer. This is a casual true crime podcast where two friends get drunk and talk about gruesome murders each week. We pick a different drink whose name or ingredients set the tone for our stories. Hey, guys, this Dreyer this Jackie. We are coming back for another episode killer. Cocktail you can't bring us down. No. I don't know that anyone try. No, no, one has Euler so nice. So this week we are drinking kind of a weird combination of drinks redoing. You know, how so hybrid is kind of the word oh hybrid between two different drinks. And it made me think of how there are hybrid B's. Will they don't know what we're drinking at Jackie O wanting to? Okay. So we are drinking a hybrid of the king be and the honeybee convenience us Janke. Would you like to continue with your thought that was kind of the end of? Okay. I I knew the title of bees. And so I made a hybrid beach memo and killer bees was like killer bees. All yeah. A hybrid be that was Jackie much smoke much ABI smoke. We're going to be the end of bees. Now. I know we're the oh our generation people are gonna be endangered KAI Aina who open up right now. Do I was driving with my sister. We were coming up from Bishop California headed up three ninety five we were on our way to Reno to cut over and get back to the bay. And we're driving think my mom's little Mazda protege a little tiny silly car Amer driving along. And then just all the sudden like. The whole windshield covered. Can't see anything. I mean like pullover. We had driving down the highway hit a swarm of bees that was traveling on its way. Yeah. We held win those down like bees were in the car these wrong windshield. It was beat down USA. And we were both scared of the b we pulled them like come Ronald way from the car fees was like top black sheep, Tommy one of those movies. But then it settles in that. You you killed a whole swarm of bees couldn't. Yeah. Swerve away from swarming fees. But they do pollinate crops that goes on my life. If I kill one Bs kill now, an accident car new don't do that faith that was on the voice back from Big Sur, don't you? Do that face. I for that my face very that was the big one back to drink. Because that's why y'all are here you here for booze and murder stories. Another Tuesday night. All right. So Monday night for them. Monday. You know, you don't know actually Wednesday for us. He's alive. It's not Tuesday. Okay. So what we did was we looked at the king be and we're like the drink are like your earth as coming up. We should do an Earth Day drink. So we're like cool pick something. She's like boom king be like love it. So I went to go pick up everything and got the London. Dry gin, boom got the fresh lemon the Honey stir up. And then there's this beautiful thing called Saint George basil in Dubai and is job. Thank you. I those probably completely wrong. But there you and I went to this is the big liquor short town the good one, they got everything in their amazing. They a little tall. I love them. In who I go there. And they're like, we don't have that. We have all this other stuff. And this is in the absence family apparently infused with basil because at that earthy kind of tone to it, but it went in and they had other Georgia's, and they were all sixty five in up a bottle spendy, George. I love y'all. But there's no way I'm going to spend that much on a ball liquor. So we then turn to the honeybee recipe, and this one is dark room Honey syrup, and lemon, and we tried that. And that was like all right, then we're like, we have this Basil's still we out that basil though, we put them basil in there, and that was Alicia, so this is a honeybee with some basil. Yeah. This is a king bee and honeybee and they had a baby. Yeah. Baby for Earth Day, which can I so what when is say it's today for them listening. But it's April twenty second. No, that's wrong. No, it is Earth Day is every day. Oh my God. Here the worst. I am. Yes. Jackie every day every day. So quickly back to the cocktail. How do you like this cocktail? I really like it. Ooh. That like very Hinton basil Basil's, a good addition. And you guys I'm not big Honey fan, but this is Honey syrup. So you do three two one two water. You are not a Honey drop. It Beth intense flavor. We never got back to your story about spices. We'll talk about that. Like, listen when I order a hamburger. I just want me bun and catch up. I'm okay, I'm not gonna shit. Let us off my. I'm not going to give you a hard time about it. Because you're talking to someone who teenager, no j I get it. And I ordered burgers that way for like I didn't want to catch ups and intense flavor at the catch up in there. I want to catch up the meat. Off the me, Patty cheese. But like because everything else is detracting from the flavor of me. So I get where your head's Ailey. I'm bout. No, I still I still will order in and out now I'll order the way you're supposed to. But every once in a while. I you supposed to with all the stuff on. Yeah. But every it'll attention, I love good plain cheeseburger. I know that makes me a child, but I I hear you have about I hear you clicking big chicken. And I'm there when we came back from the work event in Washington Aileen cooled over like, it was crazy. I pulled up with everybody, and we went to lunch together. Hin? I ordered a burger annals like listen. I just wanna need you guys did not get static about this. You know, this cheeseburger with bacon, I want this cheese burger with bacon without cheese. Then I want you to hold all the vegetables, and she's like, so you just want the meet the bacon in the bun and Jake just looks at me. I mean, it sounds good. What the fuck do like, dude? This is what I want. Yeah. Don't judge me until we I can handle the other stuff from peer pressure standpoint. But I respect that order. I'm just and I know even on the plate, and I know we're ridiculous. But I respect it. Thank you. All right. So overall, I would highly recommend this cocktail I would too don't do the Saint George while Papa booted just leave that for another. You know, what if you're made money, and you know, gold Doubloon Zor banging around in your pocket. Go for it. Do it. Give us everyday phot-. Let's hang out. So that was the cocktail lemme tell you about Earth Day 'cause you guys the reason why we picked this cocktail laws prize me with these apprised facts about the day. I'm excited to learn about her they which is technically every day. All right. All right. So the first Earth Day celebrations took place in nineteen seventy I was gonna guess in the seventies. It's the Senate is not only is it the time of the prime, but it's a very earth conscious time, and it's the beginning. It's the peak. It's the tip of their of the seventies. So Earth Day celebrations, we're talking about two thousand colleges and universities roughly ten thousand primary and secondary schools and hundreds of communities across United States are participating in this first Earth Day. It's read more importantly, brought twenty million Americans out into the spring sunshine for peaceful demonstrations in favor of environmental reform. So it's Brad it is now served in one hundred ninety two countries and it's bread with spread and coordinated by the nonprofit Earth Day network in its chaired by the first Earth Day organizer Dennis Hayes, according to whom Earth Day is now the largest secular holiday in the world really rated by more than a billion people every year. I'm impressed. By its scope that rat. Yeah. Environmental groups have sought to make Earth Day into a day of action to change human behavior and provoked policy changes. I like it Jackie. What can we do? To celebrate Earth Day, we can opt out of driving our cars for the day. We can ride your bike. You can take you know, like a transportation with other people a bus. If you will we a scooter if you're so inclined off on little to me, we're going to run you can recycle. You can reinvest in re reusable coffee cups and straws. He's K cups, man. There are greener options to the cake Cup. They've got really recyclable ones. Yeah. You can just get outside and enjoy nature. You could be why grocery bag. Oh, yeah. That's a big one. And then I don't know try being a flexible -tarian and cut down on some meat consumption. So there's some there's some options out there. If you wanna help celebrate the earth and get us back to a good place. My sister was vegetarian for a little bit. And we were I think this is what I was on my sabbatical. So I knew she was going to come. So I bought a bunch of like vegetarian options like keeping the cooler for the parts that she was with me. And I was impressed by an and slowly you'll encounter more vegetarians vegans within your life, and they'll make delicious meals for your like, I'm not a vegetarian vegan. But I really appreciate that meal. So I will definitely incorporate that into all make vegetarian meals for myself and being meals for myself. You do Affleck's tasty. Yeah. Get some more veggies. And it's just good for your health. Yeah. You feel you feel like you're not only like, yeah. Accomplish something. Eight my teeth guy. So yeah that is oh. And then if you're wondering about the history of this cocktail couldn't find Jack shit about it. So it's the be lobby. It's be lobbies behind it. So just know it's tasty. Some people invetment into it. Great. I'm gonna speak out of the side of my head right now. There is an idea that if you have allergies that consuming local honeys can help curb some of the symptoms because if it's local bees that are pollinating the local stuff and you're eating that Honey somehow science that's like if. That's if you are eating local crops in meats and stuff. Yeah. 'cause like a lot of it is. Yeah. The ideas that you're getting some of that. Yeah. I don't little trick. You know, Jackie before we jump into the murder. Yeah. Kinda wanted to shadow our listeners. They're great. They're amazing shot at them. British to shout out. Sometimes our level are spike levels. Are we? Yeah. Yeah. Sorry about that guys. But we've been looking at the data, and I just kind of wanted to shout out the five top states in five top cities that have been listening to us in the United States. Can I guess if I've type still fun? Yes. Go K, California. Yes, oregon. Yes, missouri. No, why would you seri-? Actually, it's number six that will really know that 'cause I looked longtime. I saw some zuri creeping. Missouri. Thank you now, Washington. Yeah. Yeah. Texas. Yes, we'll more. Massachusetts. No, New York. All right. You guys if you're from California, Oregon, Texas, Washington, your Amazon, why not y'all are top six states listening to us. And that is RAD. Thank you so much in just 'cause I love data. We're going to go into cities. Now, do you? Yeah. Let's go for you. I'm not going to get that's hard. We got Portland. Los Angeles, bend, Oregon, San Francisco in New York. Yeah. New York in just because I want to Canada on -tario British Columbia and Cisco and see you listened to us. Thanks, man, u k east riding of Yorkshire still hold out strong. Thank you. Then we got Belfast. And then we got a crazy name. I don't even know how to say it. Of so sorry. Go closure. This Gluck to chard look at it. Okay. You lost your Shire? You know, who you are? And thank you, you cool town. You'll thank you so much for listening to us. Thank you for telling your friends about us and your family, even though they don't wanna hear true crime anymore. No. But we do so talk to us. Yeah. Come at us. Thank you guys are Jaggi murder. Speaking of murder time, you're gonna tell me about some writer. All right. So on October twenty third two thousand twelve all right recently, Vanessa Honey Malone is your has matai putting. Figure that out Vanessa Honey Malone. She gets off work or mom picks her up her mom's aim is flora flora Malone. Honey is eighteen still living at home her mom picks her up takes her back. And she's kind of talking about how tired she it like. So this is talking about how tired she is after her day at work, then she kind of abruptly like, hey, I'm going out later, which is not abnormal for her to go out at night. But her mom, it kinda struck her mom is odd. Given how she'd been talking about how tired she was. So obviously, some sort of phone call come in some sort of text she'd been alerted some capacity where she's like, hey, I'm gonna go out. Something is obviously drawing her out of the house. So then sometime later her mom, here's what she thinks is fireworks coming from the apartment complex next door. Okay. Then all the sudden there is like really hectic knocking at her front door. So the mom goes down. She answers the door. It is this guy to two men at the door. One of them is honey's ex-boyfriend. He's last night. He's to Kevin and his friend Chris to Kevin Chris or bang on the front door, the monsters the door, and they proceed to tell her that something has happened to Honey. Okay. So they go and the these two dudes live at the complex next door. So the mom calls her sister. So when all the noises, it happened her mom had called Honey and had called her sister was like, hey, hear these noises, are you girls? Okay. And that's like a normal thing for her to do when Honey didn't pick up. Our mama's like, oh, she's like with she didn't think anything of it. But then he's calm they're knocking on the door to like something happened, Honey. So then she goes over there's police everywhere. And the two guys know what happened because they were in the apartment, but it takes them until about two thirty in the morning for police to confirm the story. So they interviewed the two guys. And it's not until middle of the night that they tell the mother that Honey is died. Oh, no. And it's still not really known what happened. So this is in Georgia. This is in Stone Mountain is the name of the town. So something draws Honey over to she walks over. I guess this is not a car around picked her up from work brings her back. She gets texture phone call. She has over like marks on the street has department in that's where shoot her destination was she was like going out. No one really knows. But that's where she's found so her exit she's headed to ex-boyfriends house. His roommate friend is home. Those two story that they tell is that the house the apartment gets broken into. And there are adding three to six masked people in just ninja. Sure. Yeah. Break in and that they're being so that they're tied up being held at gunpoint tied up and that they're like in a bathroom. I think is the story and they hear a scream and gunshots in the other room, they free themselves from their ties, and they go out and they find Honey shot her body like she's dead in a closet. That's the story. Sure. They so the story is that these mass people were robbing them and had tied them up and set them in the bathroom, and that they're being robbed the store the police say they say two flora to her mom is that this was a that. Honey, had come upon a robbery in progress. And that whatever transpired that they killed her. And then they took off. But the only thing stolen is Honey cellphone nothing else in this whole apartment. No money. Not nothing. Yeah. And there's kind of two ways I think to look at that is what people are saying is either. Destroys kind of hogwash. Yeah. Or it. Also sounds like drugs are involved. Yeah. And then if you're robbing someone they're not going to say they stole all my drugs. Yeah. So they didn't take TV take everything else. But you got robbed of any cash that was lying around that you don't wanna talk about any drugs. And so both of those seem plausible to take her phone exactly unless they texted her to. And why was she so? Yeah. Like, so the police kind of consider it open, but clo- like they're kinda like not really looking it. So the family is still like I found articles that were like, hey, five years later still talking about this six years later, we're still talking about this the families really pushing and they're hoping that because some evidence some DNA evidence was found either. Like what I don't like blood droplets, or sweat droplets, or whatever it is. But they're hoping that DNA testing will catch up and be able to pheno. Type is what I was reading about that you can get certain characteristics. Like, according to this DNA that person's probably tall. They're probably brunette. They're probably all these other things the genetic testing. Yeah. Because what they're thinking is that based off of all of this. It was probably someone she knew whether it was someone. She knew if they're robbing her ex boyfriend that she still kind of in that circle or it's that if they like, okay that sounds like the export friend that sounds like they're hoping to get some information from all of that. Because otherwise, it's just this kind of far fetched story that has some credence in things that happen regularly. Yeah. Dan itself. And so having Honey Honey Malone. Well, and there's no so they're just waiting for technology to waiting to catch up there waiting for I witnesses. So if you Google if you live in Stone Mountain, Georgia, and, you know, something like, there's definitely still open pull lines to be like, hey, I heard this. I saw this. Or maybe you work with somebody now on they're saying something like things bubble up years and years later down the line. Do they not think axes a main suspect the friend had no one's been charted? No one's been charged. Didn't have any priors with drug dealing or anything like that. Nothing. I can find. Wow, I feel like I think you're right. I think it's a combination of I think it's like the drug dealing. I think they like say they were to get rob. Yeah. And then they did text Honey to come over or maybe the bad blood in there. Yeah. Wow. And then they have any guns associated with the bullets that were now like. Who are the mass like are the most people in cahoots with the expert from the roommate is everything they're saying true to their knowledge who knows well, that's crazy. In the where can people go they need? Anyone with information regarding honeys cases, urged to contact crime stoppers Atlanta at four oh, four five seven seven eight five seven seven unsolved mystery. That's thank you. Jackie. All right. We haven't really been taking breaks. I think I'm good break on through the other side. Oh, thank you. I'm here. Again, we definitely highly recommend making this cocktail tasted enjoying them with us. All right, murder time Mirjam learn a time data time sorry. So I'm going to tell you about IRAs Samuel Einhorn aka the unicorn killer Finkel finklestein horn. Okay. What's up from Ventura coup? The dolphin wondering coup. So I'm gonna tell you about ira- ira- is born on may fifteenth nineteen forty is IRA manner woman IRAs AMAN K IRAs normally a man name. Right. Cool. Yeah. I I think I got confused by Iranian. Yeah. This is different IRA. I'm gonna cut that out. I know you will not if I have to misprint pronounce things you. I'm miss gender names. Yes. Okay. So he is born into a middle class Jewish family while you're nineteen forty. But by the time he is in his twenties. He becomes a left wing radical. He becomes a symbol. It's about the time for him to becoming less. The New York he becomes a symbol. And prominent figure head of the youth driven movement in the sixties that is opposed to America's involvement in the Vietnam war is also known as KoKo Philadelphia's head hippie since he is a large burly man with electric blue eyes and has an unkept beard and rarely take showers. Yeah. However, he is a master of persuasion in he's able to network and win over many important and famous people to rally behind his cause of freedom peace. He kind of self proclaimed himself as the prince of flower power and the group guru of peace and love some of his supporters. Call him the unicorn which I kn- horn in German is the word for unicorn. Okay. Yeah. So leading in the lectures of Philadelphia in America and Meyer, respect IRAs opinion, and 'cause IRA does very well at the university of Pennsylvania, and he also becomes friends with authors. Allen Ginsberg and Jack key wreck Iraq Iraq. And he also hangs out with celebrities, including Isaac as move. Peter Gabriel in Yeary Geller. As of is a philosopher writer. Peter Peter Gabriel is a musical artists. And what was the last one year Geller Dono all right in? He also hangs out with the crowd. Call A K, the youth international party in. He also hangs out with their founders a hobnob yet hobnobbing, Tom Nevin. So he's hanging out with the founder, ABBIE. Hoffman, Jerry Rubin. He's also partaking in smoking marijuana making Semillas de it's the time and just living that free Levin lifestyle. He also loves the corporate side of things though, and they love him too. Because he has a knack for predicting future market trends and things like computer science to quantum physics to new age management, which is kinda come lip side IRAs. Consumes like a real, boomer. He's considered very intelligent. He's an avid reader. And he has this unique way of influenced influencing people he sells blueprints of the future to fortune five hundred company CEO's convincing them that their money could save the world through ecological awareness. Yeah. He is a speaker at the very first Earth Day rally air, we go in night your ties are always so scare. Oh god. It's really like, I'm amazing or something. I will give you weep battled about this many episodes ago, I will wholeheartedly concede. They your ties are far more impressive than mine. Done. Ah? Honey was good though. Mina flora to mine are mine are obvious, and yours are these hurt the obvious. No. But they're buried in the line of your store. Do you get the different? She do it. I don't know why it doesn't. Had certain going to set your head. God. How did I get into the door? Do. Here's the thing about him, a braggart, and I'm this big ridiculous personality. But if feel like the the the opposite to the the what allows for that is that I do feel like I only give genuine compliments, and I'm just also going to include myself in the compliments. Yes. Definitely. I think we've run a leave myself out, but recognize good things we both have a very healthy sense of healthy debatable. But the same time. It's like, I don't know. It's there slip sides people. Everyone should be themselves. Then we're all in Saint plane. We're all amazing. Yes. If you're listening to this. You're amazing art is kind. He was small. All right. So he's speaking at the first day in nineteen seventy in Philadelphia in he claims to everyone that will listen that he created her day. So okay. You're gonna get a picture braggadocios. But you know, other people are speeding this. Well, here's here's all say. Based off just this part of the story. He's a speaker at Earth Day. Yeah. Someone invited him to speak and speaker. Yeah. Someone invited the him to speak at this event that they preplanned you didn't invent this event. Invent this event. The Dennis Hays who still the chairman of Earth Day network with the one who created this. We've got a who lives in the class. All right. So during this time IRA is dating a woman named Holly Maddux. And they have been together for five years Ali is a short beautiful blue eyed, former cheerleader, she's a brilliant student at Brian Mauer college, and she's also very passionate about the women's liberation movement. Can so the kind in the same circles burn bras talking about trees, saving the earth. Yeah. So Holly is drawn to IRA because they're in the same circles. Yeah. For the peace of mind, charm. Yeah. His Whiteley beard. Got gotta love your stench. However, although an advocate of peace and nonviolence IRA is physically abusive towards Holly. Yeah, I'm understanding who this picture that you're painting IRA actually has a history of violence with previous women he has dated as well. He wants matched a soda can on one girlfriends head like a fool one just one he even tat like trick them into trying to crush on their own head. We've all seen those videos. Yeah, he even attempted to strangle another girlfriend, so Holly, eventually gets the courage, silly Vira, and she moved to New York, and she begins this relationship with this other man and IRA finds out and he called Holly in he demands Holly return to Philadelphia to come get all over things. Otherwise, he's going to throw it out into the street. I watch enough court shows to know that we go. Yes. You just can't go do him out. Yes. But you know, it's the seventies. So who knows so Holly leaves for Philadelphia on September ninth of nineteen seventy seven to meet with IRA. And that's the last time. I was gonna say. Enersen? Yeah. We haven't seen Holly since then. So Holly goes missing in. No one really thinks anything of it at first because IRA has many women come go out of his life constantly, even when he was with Holly for those five years. However, hollies family starts to get worried when Holly doesn't call to wish her mother. Happy birthday. Okay. So they called the police and they talk with IRA in IRAs. Like Ma I don't know. I haven't seen Holly. We wrote up we broke up in. So the case just goes cold. And after a couple of months hollies family like is like, this is an acceptable. We need answers. Yeah. They hire some private detectives. In the meantime, eighteen more months goes by Kay in ira- continues with his life. He's going on speaking tours, and you taking a semester long fellowship at Harvard's Kennedy School of government, he just out their best life. If you will however by nineteen seventy nine the private investigators get enough circumstantial evidence to give the police enough probable cause. To obtain a search warrant Irish apartment on March twenty ninth of nineteen seventy eight how many years have elapsed. It's about twenty months of. Okay. So this gets a baby. It's almost two years. A twenty month old tell me do math. This evidence includes IRA asking friends to help dispose of trunk containing said were secret documents. Iras unwillingness to cooperate with the police investigators. And would you? Eruption of Opio Scher k you've done so well, I'm trying so. It's different because we're ladies people aren't going to ask us for brute strength, very often. But let's pretend do you have a truck. Yeah. Like, let's say someone asks you to help them move something heavy, and it's super heavy and they're not moving from their apartment. It's just one piece of furniture. Yeah. Are you not questioning at all like I would make the Joe like again, we have a murder podcast who were different people got ten dead bodies. I would be making the joke, and I've kinda like in a joking fashion. You gotta open that trunk for me. I don't know. I'm joking about it. But you got to I got a new one I move to make sure I'm not a conspiracy or. Yeah. And I'd I'd make light of it. It would be all in levity. But like you're gonna open it damn or I'm not helping. All right. Well, if I ever have something to move, and that movie a body all don't. Don't crimes I'll ret you out. What if I you know, I got conned into a pyramid scheme of dildos? Is ridiculous. And I had a box of these toys the had a push on to other people like if somebody third. Dan, hold the CR Tiffany stories. But you know, what? I mean like what if I'd want to Jack white? Oh, you don't. I feel. Could if I'm helping you move you would laughingly visit a deal to ask me. I'd open that shit. I know ready for you dildos out. Yes. Okay. Any who besides box? Yes. I just that's that's my whole thing. Because that seems to come up in these stories all the time. So this evidence includes IRA asking some friends to help dispose of trunk containing what he said were secret document ridiculous IRAs unwillingness to cooperate with police investigators, you know, seems like a standard sign, and then we have a downstairs neighbor of IRAs saying that there's a dark liquid with the noble smell leaking leaking through from IRA's apartment into their kitchen. And that they had heard a blood curdling scream and several sharp the around the time of Holly. So these are three of three why were investigating IRA. So we're not knowing these. But it's twenty months later. What's the deal? What kind of shitty has landlord isn't dealing with this dork. Seeping? Yeah. I don't know. Or maybe it took twenty months for the seep to happen. Yeah. I'll allow for that and kind so detective Mike Chitwood take the lead searching Eire's apartment, and they find Holly suitcase in a wardrobe with in Baghdad driver's license and social security card in the same wardrobe. He also finds a trunk with Holly's body inside. Pause. They weren't helping him move this truck out of his apartment. No, no. I think he called them to try to. Hey, you should help me with the trunk in. Fred like nam, and I got a baseball game to go to Bob LA. I don't know. No one ever helped whenever helped him through just has his trunk in his house. Oh, oh. Uh-huh. Oh, yes. Yes. So now, I know where this drip is coming from. Yes. How in the world? Go ahead with your story question. How in the world? Do you kill someone put them in a trunk? Push it into a closet, and then continue to end, the just live your life. And he's doing he's doing tours doing speaking tours. He's doing the Harvard further alert looks just think of the standard, logistics. Yeah. It smells horrible. You have the fear of being caught. And you have the most evidence of evidence. Yes. These seem like two very strong factors to do something different than what he did. Yeah. There's a screw loose not the normal murdered someone screw loose. But like an extra screw another screw. Yeah. So let me tell you about what he did with her body. He wrapped or we don't know we don't know someone wrapped her in styrofoam newspapers and airfresheners her decomposing body is partially mummified and the remains way only thirty seven pounds, raptor styrofoam like pecking material. Yeah. And then like packed in newspaper impact in a budget bunch of airfresheners as they were going Cologne on his stinky, dude. Yes. Acts just. So a post mortem reveals that Holly had suffered trauma to the head and her school would smash in several places as result. However, the position of the body and the size of the trunk meant that she had actually been alive in my own new win placed in the trunk and had died. Trying to claw her way out. This is a twisted story. Yeah. Upon his arrest. Ira with portly shrugged indifferently and said you found what you found. Oh, he's. Allegedly. He's guilty. He was charged with murder as Pennsylvania has no degrees of murder. So they're just like we're gonna you the water state to state is interesting. Yeah. Sometimes you like good on you stayed. And another times you like what how is that? How you doing? Yeah. And this is like, I don't know it could have changed by now. But like back in the back then. Yeah. No degrees. So irate is represented by the notorious defense attorney Arlen Specter, which to me he was at notorious but back, then I guess he was he he later Arlen Specter later became a Senator any served on the infamous Warren commission in that's why he's infamous and was the author of the single assassins, lash crazy bullet theory user, explained the assassination of JFK. Spector successfully argues for bail, which is set at forty thousand dollars, which is crazy because it is unheard of for bail to be granted in a murder case. Is that true back then? Yeah. In Pennsylvania, how much is forty grand back then still good amount of fucking much. So because oppose bail, you only have to post ten percent of it in like, oh, I don't have the money. But my good friend, Barbara bro fan does who's Barbara US on tell you. She is a Montreal socialite who's married into the wealthy. Seagram's distillery family. Oh, she pays IRAs bail so Irish released on bail. And he's telling everyone that he's innocent. He starts claiming that the murder is a conspiracy by the CIA or the FBI who wanted discredit him and halt, his political activities, then on January twenty first of nineteen Eighty-one iris skips bail and on the eve of the pretrial who. Surprise disappears. Yeah. No. Oh, he's gone. Yeah. He goes daisy in the wind. I'm going to tell you thus begins this, huge international pursuit. So this isn't district attorney, Richard Benedetto. It's put onto the case and lucky for him. I release behind sixty handwritten journals about his life and the district. Attorney is just like boom. I got you IRA, and yes, I know you detailed profile in nineteen eighty-five irises guys obsessed with himself. Yes. Yes. That will be your that will be your undoing IRA is traced to Dublin Ireland where his living under the name of Ben more. However, there were no extradition papers and effects in IRA fleas Dublin once he realizes they are onto him from there IRA travels throughout the UK crossing the English channel and at some point he enters the continental Europe. So in nineteen Ninety-three, they still haven't caught IRA. So the Philadelphia coach. Sides to try IRA in apps and Tia so in the sunshine of there. So the trying him without him being there centrally which is kind of on this gray line because you wanna give people the right to defend them. Correct. But he was also he's fleeing. So because and color both sides, you could flee because you don't feel like you're gonna get a fair trial. Like, you could be innocent flea less likely, but you could be instantly. Yeah. Will you be guilty and fleet which is how everyone views it. Yeah. And so the the main push for getting through is a lot of the witnesses and evidence is about to expire climbing out people. People are starting to die like. Yeah. People and hollies family are turned it. I so IRA is convicted of murder and sense to life imprisonment while he's gone. So then in nineteen ninety the defence attorney learns that IRAs benefactor Barbara who set bail for him. Hello. Yeah. Has been financing his escape. However, Barbara gonna get in trouble for that. Yes. Yeah. She's canadian. So Mira's mad at a Canadian snow. You got this international stuff at be involved. Yeah. However, Barbara how the change of heart as she tells police IRAs doc home address, so the addresses under the name Annika folding whose iris wife, so he gets married while he's in the win on June third said press, but any of this on June thirteenth nineteen ninety seven. I r- is arrested in a mill house outside of champagne, Milton, France. Yes, a whole we. But the French courts refused to extradite him citing an extradition treaty between France and the United States says that either country may refuse extradition. If it finds that the defendant may not get a fair trial. Isn't that what's holding up? What's his face? I told you about the Sharon Tate murders, and and I can leave his damn name. He's director Roman Polanski implants ran away to France because he was facing a raping thirteen year old charges here in the US. Yes, he's famed famed director everybody thinks amazing. You have all these actors like Lee Malone. He should come back to America. But he can't come back to America and France won't extradite him. 'cause he faces very serious charges when it gets back. Yeah. I think I feel like Francis. Sometimes they are like, no. I mean, I think they're just trying to cause like they don't have the death penalty. And we do I know it's it's a it's two countries with very different different philosophies, and I understand them being like, I'm not going to send them back. If you're gonna do it in a way that we don't agree with. Yeah. Yeah. This dick to their guns about it. I give sides. So again Francis. Like, I don't think he's gonna get a for a trial. So we're not gonna send it back to you, which I think he would get a fair trial. No because he was found guilty without him being there without that. It's going to stand. Yes. So that's gonna found he is found guilty without a chance of a new trial. Do you agree with Francis? Dan, pice little bit kinda get where they're coming from. I totally get that send them back. If I'm like if he gets a trial off on them back. So. So francis. Like, we're not going to send it back because we don't agree with you. So France releases IRA back to his wife, so just six days later, and she's cool. You murdered someone you got all these ladies like, no, everything we normally. I don't care it come back with me. So just six days later, a new law passes in Pennsylvania under the law in the American fugitive caught in a country where extradition is denied on account of previous. How do you say it in essential? There you go conviction may when return to United States v granted a new trial in this law was going to be retroactively applied to Irish case. They want him. They want him back trying. They're like, okay, France. We see where you're saying. We'll do this so IRAs rearrested in France in September of nineteen ninety eight. The Bill was however criticize as being unconstitutional is it the allegation being that the legislature cannot overrule final judgment handed by a court. I don't know that that's true. I think we'll just we have different. Branches of government for a reason so attorneys tried to use this fact to get French courts to deny the extradition again on grounds that the law would be inapplicable, however on February eighteenth of nineteen ninety nine a French court agreed to extradite IRA to the US in a desperate attempt to delay his extradition on July twelfth of two thousand one IRA publicly attempts this let his throat in front of television cameras. Although he suffers little damage. Yeah. I'm not surprised by that. He used a butter knife. Yeah. I'm not surprised. Amir -tated by IRA. All right. So the trial itself is relatively straightforward. The prosecution amass a body of circumstantial evidence against ARA, including the courts found in his apartment. They also led him in cross examination to reload. Portions of his diaries which gave insight to his violent in womanizing character, the price they allowed that. But biggest because they've found it at the scene of the crime. Yeah. The defense tried to of having the trial dismissed as the I kn- horn law was unconstitutional arguing that the law violated the protection against cocoa double jeopardy. The judge refused to hear devils. Devils giving you a fair shake their arguing that he's being tried again. But what they're doing is offering a real trial for Hainan saying do overs, you get a mulligan. Yeah. Yeah. 'cause you get to be there in defend yourself. Yeah. So the judge is like I don't wanna hear that shit. We're going to it's you know. Yeah. We're just in the list. Let's play out the defense. Also, tried to introduce reasonable doubt that IRA had committed the murder claiming that he had sent out. Oh, sorry, claiming that he had been out of the apartment for several months in nineteen seventy eight and that it was possible for the body to have been sneaked in to frame their client, definitely possible. Ira happens all the time IRA when asked to enter his defense claim that he had been framed by the CIA or KGB. Oh, yeah. Because they don't like his political. Yeah. Sometimes I've ever Grazer. Air more on the side of common sense than. Yeah. Theory on this one after only four weeks on October seventeenth to to a jury found IRA guilty of the murder of Holly. He was sent to life in prison without parole. He's currently incarcerated at Holt state prison in Pennsylvania, that's murder case. You are curious Steven Levy did a study in nineteen eighty eight called the unicorn secret murder in the age of Aquarius in the Hinton's just him going through all his diaries like just going setting dove. Yes. Yes. So if you want to know about more about that, that's that. Otherwise that was Iraq. For ya. How? Yeah. Let's Suri in crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Like he flipped. He was gone for like sixteen seventeen years. Yeah. He was on the row. I mean in true fashion. He gave me many times. You guys that's been another week of killer cocktails, but before we wrap up trying to get more of a spine to this podcast. Yeah. An outline if you will we're going to talk about what we've been watching listening or reading too. So what what what's up Jackie I have? I'm very early into the one that you're gonna recommend. So let us speak to it. Okay. Because you've listened to more of it than I have. But I've enjoyed what I've heard so far. And I started watching new girl to have you never seen it. I feel I watched it a long time ago, but not a ton of it. So I'm just enjoying this little net. Flicks binge of silly show. Dude, new girl is like I love it. Nate loves it from work like he'll he can Joan like he knows all the quotes Kyle super do it like Phil super into it hits. Everybody everybody is it still. It's silly. It's very silly. The writing is amazing. They're all just really happy. Yeah. Happy show new girl Millie, and what's the podcast? You're listening to. It's the one that you're listening to go root of evil. I finished it Kim recommended this came we recommended this each insane. If you ever wanted closure on the black Dahlia case, I feel like I have closure. I think I know who did it. Now, it can be very triggering there. It's talk of incest and most Asian and rape. So definitely knew that going into it. But man, if you work at the gap don't throw it on the loudspeaker on the loudspeaker, it just get insight into various different cases all coming together. And you're like, oh my God. This is who killed the black. Dahlia you feel like they've presented enough evidence that if you were a jury that's where all do feel like I'll watch making all like watcher. Listen to podcasts or documentaries where I'm like the narrative frame didn't away. We're like this is how I feel. Yeah. But then when you talk to people, I'm always hesitant to say. Our Phil one hundred percent one way because it's different than if you were adjourned, you're presented all this information. But do you feel like they've presented in a way? What's kinda like pretty cut and dry? One hundred got a bunch of different stuff. We feel pretty confident definitely. And then just so everyone knows the black. Dahlia is the name of given to this case victim was Elizabeth short anything that should be known remembered. Definitely. Yeah. But yeah, go check out root of evil. It is binge worthy. But very intense. So kinda balance that out with new girl. Maybe sounds like a good balance. Jackie I've been watching the act and mommy, dead and dearest on HBO. I've had both those things recommended to me. I have not been in yet. So this is the case about gypsy rose and the act is kind of like a made for TV like episodic show, and it's like slowly coming out on Hulu, and that's amazing. And then I started watching the documentary on HBO the, mommy dearest in just the way the actress in the act is playing the like, she's has the choices. She's making. Yeah. Yeah. In like, even those this is based on events a lot of them coincide with each other. They're pretty through this job. And it's just like this mother who got Munchausen or Mathausen by proxy. And it's just it's intense. Like the the way like you see the love for her daughter. But the way that she's imbues abusing her daughter in that that she's like taking her to get excessive surgeries and just pretending that she has these m I. In my on base by saying much. So there's a his abuse involved every time, but it's also there's an attention seeking to it. Yes. That you're getting attention for. Yeah. Oh, you're sick kid was you. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. And then there's just like a twist at the end with gypsy and her mom, so definitely watch it either those or read more into the case, congress, it's crazy intense. And then we actually have a listener Arfan white underscore underscore rabbit. Not to be confused with white underscore rabbit on Instagram. I got permission. She has this funniest like show notes. They are hilarious. She's like we're kind of watching it together. I don't know how this happened. We started watching it together. I think she recommended it to me. And then she was like a little bit headed meets though. She would go through synopsis. He's I haven't seen any of it. And I I read it because it was sent to us. Oh, wow. Yeah. I'm trying to convince her to do a little blog or very fun. Very funny. Thank you for entertaining. Me of your notes are amazing. And yeah. So if you guys wanted more recommendations, they are check out the act. Mommy, didn't is the root of evil and new girl. Kind of balance all the devil. As always guys. Thank you for listening. And we totally appreciate you guys. We got some fun seven, and we'll check you out next week. Bye. Thanks for tuning into. This week's episode of killer cocktails as always on her talent was Jackie. Andrea be sure to check out her Instagram at cocktails podcast or stop by our website killer cocktails podcast dot com for up to date information, photos, contests and more are logos. Created by Michelle firm whose amazing art founded Michelle from designs com. Our music was created by Nikolai height loss, and we'll be back next week on hashtag burger Mondays. Hey, guys. Welcome back to another week of killer cocktails. I was breathing out. While you said that I made. I'm in a nose law. Okay. Good love. Until you got a good love. 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Ep 164: Shan Spies

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Ep 164: Shan Spies

"Hello everybody. My name is Stephanie, Tani host of a comedy advice podcast and I just wanted to say it's an honor to be in your home or in your car, or in your ears wherever you are. This. Is Not Dr Seuss podcast. I'm going to stop writing. It's just that I have such impeccable timing, but I have a very special guest for you and know her. Last name doesn't end with WHO Okay guys on. Seriously I've got a special guests for you guys today Shan speeds. She's a local phoenix comedian and she gets into how she got into comedy her podcast, and how she got into a little bit of a sugar daddy entanglement, although not an entanglement like Jada Pinkett Smith or is it I don't know you're going to have to listen to find out, but it's very saucy stuff. It's good stuff. She's a hilarious guest had a great time with her. I hope you guys to and then listener podcast follower on Instagram, support her and I O. Tired guys sorry, I'm not bringing the full energy with me today, but you know. 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What social distancing guys give me? An But. Make sure you're wearing your mask. Here yeah. Comedy Advice. PODCAST, And friends. Statement nominee to be taken literally seven complete podcast. All right guys, hello, everybody, welcome to another amazing episode of a comedy advice podcast. My name is Steph. Thin Sultani. And I'm your host. Join me. Today is special host. Eric Hughes. How are you buddy? I'll have to go a little more monotone after that. No I'm great. I'm great. Rick. I love the FALSETTO beautiful. Thank you for joining us. We are also joined by special guest today. Everybody, please welcome shanties. Like a home improvement show. The SASSY interior design. We were also going to have some music and then put a caption under your with your name so then when it goes to you like. Doing some cooking cooking noodles candidly. Shit how are you? This is our first time actually meeting, too so it's a pleasure to meet you. We want to know all about you I don't I've heard your podcast which we'll get into in just a second. But. Tell us a little bit about you. I know you're a comedian in the phoenix seen. You also work at the Tempe Improv you also I! Don't know what your sign is or your favorite color so that you could fill us in the audience in on some of those details just anything that's interesting about you. This is Kinda Greasy, but for the longest time the color was red and trust within the last couple weeks. I realized now green. I just woke up Dan I was like. Wow Color Screen! Yeah, so that's really important news. I was kind of against the rules, isn't it? It's like a sports team. You just pick one and stick with. You can't be like I. Don't like the Patriots anymore. We're going to cardinals. Pancakes so much I was like well I mean there's nothing I can do about. It now extended out loud. Elementary Color was. Did you tweet it? Did you post this story because that's official. Now okay, so you're gonNA feel really conflicted. Come, Christmas. Oh. No, you're going to see your ex and your favorite quartered. Oh! Could you be Red Green colorblind? can you do that? Look colored windows. You Develop. Catering laugh colored vision. It all blurs into a gray. Late onset color blindness. Officer. I swear I thought it was green. I'm. Well guys before we completely isolate are late onset color blindness audience here. Tell us a little bit about yourself. You're a comedian and you're relatively new one. Gotcha what what got you into it? How did the comedy bug find? Well. Hate is, GonNa. Good start! Okay, all right. Just like your like Red Oh. Maybe this is symbolism. Red was stopped the comedy and then Green. You're going forward with. But. My cops, my father's in Canadian. Hold zone issues. But one day I dislike. Woke Up, and it was quarantine didn't have a job, and so all I had to actually noses before. See? I started commonly records. What is February seventeen? Wow deliberately like. or on. I don't know. Right and actually think about it and. They did. Yes so basically. What happened is I quit my job at apple working rap for years in. The next day I was super depressing with. Friends that I just happened to be friends with a lot of local phoenix mediums just based on like Hey y'all asserted bars music that. Started, this my friend actually. Give Him. Credit for this in front precipitates. We're hat fronts. Birthday party news life. This is on so generic keeps clearly senator Beta I think friends lost in of Comedians. I. Handle? Being low comics and I was like hey I'll dot com. Are. January. Insulting. Comedian and then he was like well, maybe should strident your blood and I was just like. You know. Actually, not thought about that before, did my son. Mike and I didn't read any jokes for it was devils, and was really stressed out 'cause they quit my job and I was a cookie on the through minded in the hat, and then I got called pretty. Damn and so you had no material. You just winged it. And I. Can't recorded in like I was like Oh. Shit, laughing at me babbling about sugar, Daddy that I tried to get. Let's. Okay I think our next topic of discussion. Wow? So that's how you caught the bug, and then did perform afterwards or did everything in lockdown after your first time so. I went to more. That you really know that they wanted to do was kind of freaked out by I remember. First, I so a lot of people like in the community numb. Dad so I ended that I set by being by the way I'm Shannon Sees Modesto these fees and then a bunch of people at the Mike Relief. Oh, my God, serious joking, and like somebody's. Why would she joke about? That like. Really uncomfortable. Some egalite didn't like at A. Controversial person you know so. This this whole thing and then I felt really weird about IT A. Urban Jeans where Linda Rockers. This is my. In the middle of the day I can coffee and I was beginning time, so if the Megan coffee shop did you wake up one day and we're like I'm not vegan anymore and my favorite color is green. It was quarantine to change me. That's fair. That's fair. Okay, go on! vk. Turbine beings to get coffee with out because they're like saw by the way you remind me, your voice reminds me of that Allen, a little bit like I was listening to your voice now thinking of. Zach Allen who the hell is that? Is that not Zach Ephron. Ace immediate, so he's. He's a Montana. Montana Oh I'm not from Montana so. Your voices. inflections and stuff so you're telling me. Zach Allen on this podcast because people will be so. Sorry. Invited. Iran well, if you so curious smiley and like kind of just like nodding all the time like this. And and so I walked in there Get coffee and I had just dropped up close buffalo exchange in. I was in my PJ's I was just like. Fuck to all these people. and. I like saw that Allen in a kind of knew it seen on, says it's. Going on here and he was like. Oh! You're not. And I was like. Oh. Get coffee it's three PM. He was like Oh yeah like. Maybe you should sign up to. An. Ran Out of their house like that was terrified. Took it aside. That's terrified. The world is telling me something. I hope your journey continues like that just one day you stumble. Garden and there. What's going on oh? You're supposed to tell jokes for thousand. I guess the university telling me something. Like but since then it's been oh my God. Somebody did I did. Back in from! One of the concierge I was there i. just kind of like piggyback. Kim Tuesday night. Safe friend rose like okay. We're going to this Mike. You're there. You'll laugh at Coke's committed. Lost everything. That's why we have on podcast. Matic. So know that. They went to the woodshed soy. Everything closed once I was like I had ridden. Joe slickers Simon. Clothes and and is. Hardcore hardcore pop. Really so you've been hitting the zoom open mics. But. Up in Arizona. Survey recommendations. Art To Go back to but I. Do. Is they tend to? Oh. Nice. That's more than most people work out. So that's really good. It's flexible. INSTRUMENT THROWS A. So cool because I got to. Make friends that live in Seattle. Eric, who's one of those people I can tell. You're pretty good at it, too, because you described me. Somebody from Montana so I'm feeling hurt right now, so that's. Just kidding! Actually, I'm not fuck months. Daughter Montana. I'm joking. Meditate listeners have the best sense of humors, fifty percent of our listeners Montana Listener, so they're fine with it. They're cool. We're buds. We're tight, but anyway you roasted you like roasted. Trepelo and Get in trouble. This is a local. Oh this could be good good content for our patriotic. Went close to Home A. It's a roast. Yeah. All right moving on. You also beyond doing standup comedy. You have your podcast. Shan. That's the name of podcasts I. Just wanted to add the quest the interrogative inflection, but what was the incentive for the Genesis of the podcast? What made you laugh? Did you wake up on day and we're like podcast sounds like a good idea. For a long time want. To Apple, my job China was creative probe so like my job is to teach classes around art music the Tar. In Cody so. Just just. Like the Prophets. So a genome like technical knowledge. For hot cast, but it's not. It's far. Gorging, and then we'll go one day I said. My favorite color is cream. Cheese and I'm going to start a podcast. It's GonNa happen it looks. Like. On cast. This? creatives drink beer. As it. I all yes, and I saw. You have some cool little segments like you chug a whole beer I saw on one of the instagram. Stories I think Eric. Escobar took over our instagram. And you shared a video chugging an entire beer in two seconds. INSTAGRAM. He rose to the shit out of you. On kidding, he did not. Buy. Anyway so you chug a beer with your guests, and then you get started. Yeah Yeah, was a horrible idea people most. Nets. The only person that has been able to keep up and ears. or even a single beer was make close friends. We ended up coming three years and I ended up taking episode down because he threw up on the PODCASTS. Oh, patriotic content! Up here damn. That's. Was Thinking in the beginning ecology like a hot one style, things graded chuck beer with like higher fees as the questions harder. To. But, the thing is is I started experiencing. Technical difficulties were like grinding using garage band graphing. Would it be reported and like it would just stop recording and so I'd have to cover another ear like because. Why so? To shove another here. So that I can record it like it was. There is a point when it hasn't even episode practice three years, and we still living on recording. Nickel difficult. That's why what you gotTa do is you have to have recordings? Ready of you chugging beer? That can just put in there don't worry. We've been through it all we. Do the same. We do bags of meth when we start our episodes along. WAS IT UP? But I'm not. I've never seen breaking bad. That's something interesting I think. That's fascinating. To avoid it. Off that. Never have been situation to. Not even. Yeah it's. It took me a while to get into it to be honest with you. Because my brother, one of my brothers showed me the first episode and he's like you have to watch this. And then the first scene is a middle aged man in his tidy. Whitey's with the gun in the middle of the desert. I'm like no I. See the Shit near zone all the time. So. My Life. Ten years why do I want to talk? Then, he was like come on getting into, and then so after two or three episodes. You get real hooked. They Hook you in. kind of like math, but it's. I recommend it. Yeah, something to ponder but. Anyway Watch it. Both. It's best enjoyed doing meth so. A little. But I can binge the whole series. I. Increasingly really not that good. Off. IT WAS SOME RANDOM LADY Didn't even deny like. I literally went to the bathroom and I was. Busy. Talking to drugs and I was likely next pool. She's like. She's going to be done. It's like well. You know. She's like I have something on me. lily pulled out at the bar. Codes like now. What is it shoes mess? Is like. Yeah! Do you try. To. Sure. What before. SCARED SO I. Going in out of The bathroom I don't it'd to be a good self. Help expert here. I didn't know what to do. I said yes. No it works though so I went to the bathroom. You. So. All of a sudden after that it's the second stop, so I don't stay. At a P, luckily, I didn't have to be selected. checked out, but that I as In Q. One way deal. The hands and then I ran back to the bar, said the bar act like nothing happened, and then came back out and the girl actually really angry and she's asleep. Where did you? And I was like. Oh I forgot. That's a valid answer. Like that by the way I just came up with an idea while you were talking about that for people that say they gotta go, but then don't have to go pee. What if spotify had a playlist of P. Sounds? You could actually put that on, and then it would seem like you're peeing. Good idea I could make to. Says you call that up? By audit by. Eric we're in business together. Can you, can you be a impression? Impression! Of like. I think you have to get your your mouth as much as you re threat to be able to. Sue That just air. You gotta you gotTa. Get hydrated Dude Oh. It's dry over here. GUYS GOTTA hydrate. It's a dry heat. I can't do. All right well I'll work on it, but in the meantime your podcast I was all going back to the beer I also my favorite part was my first episode that I listen to You I. Think was Lou Moon, and then I listened to. Kelly Graham. Kenneth Graham. Kelly Sciatic I dunno somebody Libor. Oh I can't i. don't remember the name anyway. You were talking about how good the beer was a smooth taste. Everything and you're describing the bureau's like. Drink these beers while they're going through the episode and you're like well now. We're just gonNA chug it so. You should get really Nice, Nice Beers that should be enjoyed overlake. Initially wanted to host them at bars in so tap savvy in. Avondale, or whatever offer during quarantine had me come in there before opening like before they're doing there to to sales and report podcast sleep did that. The only thing is far have refrigerators in southern Illinois ice. The harming the. Well. I can give you some technical advice for how to get rid of that. After the episode, but for all those. Yeah, but anyway. Sorry. I should switch. You should switch to wine. Do an episode with wine. Chardonnay this comes from the Rhine. River region. Germany invite like US Amelia and Tell them that. You're GonNa just chug the glass. I said. My SHUG although. I. Lineup like shots. Out of A wine tasting you're allowed to do. So funny I've never been to a wine tasting. You can have six classes. Miss Talk All this talk, okay? Don't have real beer. Is that a white cloth. It's a truly. Truly I don't I've never had a truly really. Really truly. Truly Truly, it's really well. Not Everybody can be cool. So we a Chug is that what's going on here? Are you GonNa Chug Wall we get into the self help portion. Yes, perfect! Oh, amazing! Read! That's many speed. Hey Stephan here. Have you ever thought about making a podcast? It seem complicated, but anchor makes it easy. Let me explain it's free. That means you don't have to spend any of your hard-earned tschetter to get your voice out to the world. It's easy. There are creation tools that allow you to record. Edit your podcast from your phone or Computer Ankara will also distribute your podcast for you, so it can be heard on spotify apple podcasts. PODCASTS and so much more, you can also make money from your podcast with no minimum listenership. It's everything you need to make a podcast in one place. So what are you waiting for? Download the free anchor APP or go to anchor, DOT FM to get started. That's awesome all right. We're GONNA get into the self help portion of the PODCAST, but before we do with our questions. We're GONNA. Inspire ourselves with a motivational quote now Shan. We, like to ask our guests if they have any motivational quotes to get them through there. Is. My favorite, so this is a real answer. Just because I have three truthful is, there is a quo. And it is unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot. Nothing is going to get better. It's not oh my. God I just saw that movie. Is Watered Danny de Vito just has such a way with words I love it. It's like the only thing that I. Hate about Cam that his last name snead with snead and needs are the bad things that kill the trees you know. Kill the trees for. Take that up with Cam. I have another quote. That's actually I think a little bit funnier. It was my senior quote because have senior high school. I didn't go to high school from Cottonwood Arizona. We didn't have that far. But I've heard about it I heard. It's a great thing so you can go ahead. As senior quo was. Don't let the haters stop you from doing your saying. By Kevin G and that's from mean girls two. Beautiful I like the balance of Dr Seuss. mean girls. You had a nice childhood and teenage slash adulthood so far pretty predictable. At least it's good. That's great all right well. Those are good quotes. Thank you Shannon. We're going to get into a quote. This was furnished by not a person, not Dr Seuss but a robot. It's called, inspire robot, and what it does use his ai to take some of the wisest words known to man and then just. Smashes together for a beautiful inspirational code. Sorry I was a little too weird, but all right. This week's quote Arab. Would you mind reading? Inspire abouts quote this week. This week's quote. Latch onto someone who has money in their bank account, not someone who's smarter than you. Wow It sounds like it's like inspire is encouraging. Sugar daddies I thought this was a personal attack I literally or read them. And I was like excuse me. I went to your first at open MIC, Shan and I. Say, about sugar daddies. Getting. I also dislike to avoid people that are smarter than me. This. So Do I. Yeah, that's why I hang out with my brother's a lot, but anyway. That that's not true. They're way smarter than me. One of them is a mechanical engineer and the other ones that chemistry, something or other I don't fuck. Not even enough to understand what they did. Not even the title makes math in a trailer so. Really Smart. But. Anyway, do you? Do you want to share some details about the Sugar Daddy? Maybe you can deal us in on. What inspired bots thinking here because? I almost had a sugar daddy once, but it didn't pan out. and. So anyway, let's let's change the subject to you. Yeah. That's so that whole situation that inspired my first Mike basically. I on seeking arrangements, which is like a website where? Daddy! and. Yeah so I did that to try and get a sugar daddy, because it was near Christmas time and I was poor. And so. Also I should add that I was on medical. Leave from apple like I was on medical leave for my job. So I wasn't so I literally wasn't making money Oh! I mean it's not that big drinking every still like it's not like I was doing good things for my health. I guess should have been but. Here's the crazy thing. I meet this guy off the bat. He's really cool. We really get along. I haven't seen this face. I only know his initials. K. I. Just, ask really quickly what I guess. You can't see the pictures then because I was GONNA ask. What do they look like, is it? Is this a said faceless, little place where a picture should be if they WANNA put a picture, but there was no picture on this guy. You didn't even put his name. He just put a s Ooh they shouldn't even told the initials, but he was a s and. What was wild is we got along 'cause we were talking about board games fairly. Games and D. and D. like some nerdy shed. And we just we're getting along and my up. He asked me to send him a picture of just like my face, and so I was like okay, and I've never had a sugar daddy before, so it was like What would? Season sugar baby in this situation situation. I said Okay I'll send you a picture of yourself. The as you send me one hundred dollars. I'm thinking like I'm shooting hot like that's what I'm thinking. My hundred dollars for a salty instagram gets it for free like I'm making out like a bandit here. If he says yes, he says no, then it's just some random guy on this website. Raft active I was GONNA ask. You don't have your picture then. So, what do you did? You have a choice. I was stupid about it. Oh. Okay. Okay well. This is what makes it so much worse. Those details are important. Okay, so we're getting. Everything's great. He sends me a hundred dollars. To my buddy, he's like what's your. Like here's a hundred dollars, seven hundred dollars and then. I already know everybody makes fun of me for the same reason, and they should tell the actual live, but I'm not going to let you guys make fun of me as well. Then he the conversation progresses any ends up asking me for a nude and. I think about it for a moment I'm incentives and software your high school and that boy showed it to the entire football team so I'm like. Today. Do what should I do right so I'm like? Okay, but just send me another hundred dollars I. And, he does And everybody gets mad because it's like I should've charged differently for. Higher. For. At least a thousand you. Done this before everybody. Right there's no manual on how to be a good sugar baby so i. Maybe there is on Amazon. That's another we get the PISS playlist down. We'll get the how to be a good. Yeah I. Just me clear. After this situation, I have given up on that goal. Because ruined ruined. My Sugar Daddy. Dreams for life so. After I signed the Nude I. Freak out because I'm like Oh my God. Do Right. What if it's ends up on the Internet? Like my mom said you know that's what I'm thinking is the worst case scenario. I thought you were going to say what if it ends up on the Internet like my mom's and I was like just to do the same thing. But then. So I panicked so I'm really smart. Right so I use my resources just and use them in time. I go to van Mo- because I'm like who is this guy? All I know about him. His initials and I and he sent me money on bedlow. And I'm Ben Nimmo even if They don't have any information. You can see their friends list, so you can see the people that are connected to their contacts. Automatically Smart Guy detected steals. And I started looking. And I see. is to be the market leader. For the company that I worked for in this list, and I keep scrolling I. See my ex-boyfriend. WHO's a manager for? That company accused scrolling, and they see like six more managers for this company. They still worked for those medically pro. and. So I'm like okay. Long shot but I'm going to Google guys number because I had a cell phone number so google. The number and his name came up. Just like US name came up and a fucking know him, and I had worked with him before. There's manager. Can you ask for your nude back? I don't. I. Don't know what happened works that way. So after that it was actually it was kind of funny because I realized I was him, so I called him out I was like Oh my God. I know who you are like. You know who I am this whole time and you knew who I am and he was like Haha Yeah. You got me like he literally was just like so chill about it and like wasn't freaking out at all, and it was like how you're not freaking out and. He was like well. You know Like he didn't expect to get caught basically, and so he started like he certainly worrying for his his job a couple of weeks later company like we have talked for a couple of weeks. And then he started tech Siemian being like Kerry. You know. Don't tell anybody you don't say anything that anybody does. And Like I. was I forgot to mention this? He was offering me before says money. He was like offering me likes. I? Don't even remember how much money like. Fifteen hundred dollars a month or something like that to like. Go on dates with him. was. Guy Yeah, yeah, he totally was. He's still he's still but. He also has a girlfriend, and since ask since since it gets better so when quarantine happened right before quenching happened in moved into this house March first and he hit me up the day that I was moving, and he asked me need help moving and then his berry up. Follow Up, question. Why said no was? Do you want to have a threesome with me and my girlfriend? Tell me. You were not like okay for one hundred dollars no. No. No. I didn't obviously but I was I was what? It's because he had found out the owners and he reached out because you found not going to quit apple. That was the only reason reached out. I guess we'll in for the three times. And the Segue is he where he works currently above my ex boyfriend, who was also manager, and so it's just so funny and just like. So Kranji, these are some very salacious details here and this is what happens when you get into the world of sugar. Sugar People. People Sir Salt Lake Sour Patch kids, don't they call? Our Patch Daddy's sugar, daddy and sugar. Babies are existing candy as well, aren't they? ARE FIGURE BABIES YUP yes, sugar babies are smaller version. It's when to sugar. Adults love you. Kind of candy bars sugar, Sugar Daddy. It's literally pure sugar. Like. It's almost like a car. It's like a caramel kind of. It's almost like a sucker. The sugar daddies like a sucker. Carmel, it's kind of an older candy bar. It's a crude a lot of wealth, but it's a lot. It's very lonely. Feel like we're very inspired from from the story. From the quote, so we're going to move on. To the questions, we've got a question from red. It's found by our friend Arfan Fan Angie. Thank you Angie I need advice about my parakeets. I have two parakeets that I adore, but they have to stay in their cage. Because we have a cat that likes to hunt birds lately. They've been really wanting to be outside the cage and they've been screeching and pacing around back and forth I feel awful and I. Need some advice. And that's it. That's the question I mean I. I know the solution. I have two solutions. Hit US. Okay Solution Number One. Let the parakeets out. Put the cat and the cage because it'd be funny. Classic, Tom and Jerry Yeah Uh tweety bird. Yes number two you just. Let them out and let the cat kill them, and then you won't have to clean up after birds because that's the worst pet to have ever. Before, but I've seen people that have pet birds and their their cages are never cleaned. I've never seen a clean birdcage. Hit. Shit everywhere I'm going to defend the birds in this case because I feel like. Their whole house is just it's like. A little bigger than a New York apartment, but it's smaller than every other average you ask, so you have to sit and eat and do everything all in one place and so. If, maybe get the birds bigger place. Get him a big cage. Out into the wild. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, we want their pets. They belong to us, so we could be. Our happiness comes first obviously, but hey parakeet. Yeah. CHIRP, CHIRP motherfuckers. No, but I have to lovely cats, and I would not get anything that they would like. Dot My cats I love this about them. When I lived in Jersey, they would hunt mice, but not to eat them, but just to play with them, and then they end up them which gets rid of our mouths, problem fine, but. Is You. Let a bird out. It's going to get murdered by a cat so I. would say should have been faster. You could teach teach the birds of life or death lesson. Yeah, yeah, BE FAST! Eric what about you? You worked at Petsmart? So I'm sure you have experience with animals Oh. Yeah, sold a lot of parakeets and might. Get a bit got bit a lot to. Buy. Here's what you do. My parakeets yeah. They don't like it when you grab them. They're like. Nothing like this Goddamn lovebirds though. Peach, lovebirds will take a chunk out of your hand. Here's what you do. Fights get a third parakeet. Let it out first. And once the cat is preoccupied then. They'll be just fine. Parakeet I liked that. Thing I like about birds. I was just thinking about. It is like the way that their tongues come out talking about. Tiny little tongues like. That'll be the screen shot for this episode. That reminds me of Jurassic Park. Do you guys remember the first Razek Park with the triceratops and they're just They're fingerings, tongue and he's got the big. a tongue. Grossed me out that that was the part of the gross me out more than anything in the whole movie. Nightmares about that. Anyway so decoy parakeet let the parakeets out the parakeets in. Get a bigger cage. I feel like we've got a bundle of advice here for this person. So unless you guys have anything else we can move on. Moving on we're GONNA. Go to our next question. This is from red found by our fan. Alan is Zach Allen perhaps I don't know us. By the way Zach I'm totally kidding. You can come on this podcast anytime I'm talking specifically to you. If you're listening, so thank you. Maybe he won't get this far. Maybe he's like fuck this guy. Quota Montana people. All right headed to the Arctic this summer for work any suggestions for hobbies that I can do to pass the time I'm going to be staying in a field camp with no Internet minimal power, and not a lot of storage space. Anyone got any cool suggestions and things that I can do during down. Cool suggestion. Shadow puppets. Shadows up. It's like. You don't need the Internet. No power needed just a late source so. The practice makes perfect. I missed pretty. That's a good idea because there's a lot of sun in the summer in the Arctic, right or now. Is that the North Pole? Arctic North Pole. Yeah Okay Okay so they get a lot of sunlight in the summer right, isn't it? Eighteen hour days. Am I, don't they? There's a there's a period of time where the sun just doesn't set. Yes, yes, yes, okay I'm glad. I'm not dumb here, okay? Good that's good. What about the polar bears up there great? There are that there were at least. Did you just say that the Arctic is the North Pole? Like that's the same place. It's the Senate thing. Dude. Santa Claus is out there. There's so much to do. You Right? Go work on Santa's workshop. Maybe! That's why there's no Internet. Get another summer job. Yeah, go! Toys. Signed the patch of ice that used to be Santa's workshop. Just goes swimming since global warming will. Exactly I mean. You could build I. Don't know why all I can think about. It is igloos right now, yeah! Why not build a Nice Igloo? Two bedroom bath. And for the parakeets. real-life. The. Sims. In new edition. If they have a camera, they could film their own one man or one woman show. where? They play all the parts. Like. Like, nor BIB but. In the Arctic norb. Is the example you'll go with. I never saw I never saw orbit. Eddie Murphy Right. That's the name. He just plays all the parts. nutty professor Norby okay got it got it. Awesome. I mean other than that. There's not really much to do. What did we do before the Internet I'm trying to think. Gameboy I played Gameboy a lot when I was younger comic books. That was fun. I mean so can go back further than that this is. Times can masturbate can masturbate. But, but the country is GonNa Subzero temperatures. I feel like there could be a game with the come really does freeze when it comes out. I don't know I feel like that could be a game like Spiderman except from your Dick. They set up targets. They can target. But my fear is. It's going to get stuck to the end of your wreath, so I feel like. You're free to. That's what I'd be. The most afraid of is if you expose your Dick to that freezing cold France Bait frostbite also. They didn't say that they don't have an indoors like you're treating it like just gonNa be like. Out there camping in the Arctic over. True. That is a valid point. Yeah, they're not going to be out there. In the wild, they could hunt hunt polar animals. Arctic Fox this go. Clubbing up their sales. Yeah, that's good. Good nutrients to I mean if you were if you were in the Arctic and you were to go hunting. What would you hunt? I feel like seals are very cute Fox's. They're very cute penguins, but here's what are you? Angry are Antarctic. You eat bear. You would hunt polar bears. Would you though because I feel like polar bears would murder you? Yeah here week. If you're a little bit, you're anything. You're fuzzy has bit. Polar bears are like the biggest living Predator on earth okay. Yeah polar bears saved the avengers in. Has Seen Coca Cola commercials. Can say. Well, okay, that's modernization. And now polar bears suffer diabetes and obesity, and a slew of other things because Coca Cola and what they've done to the polar bear community, so that's another subject, but before that before polar bears got all relaxed and cozy, and just sat on their chairs, igloos, or whatever the fuck. They were ferocious. They were good and. So I think they can take so modern polar bears maybe not make polar bears great again. Lord I just imagined a polar bear in a Red Maga hat drinking a company. All Obese and just sit there while the while the ice melts around it. Saying I don't believe in go global warming. Halfway sinking so so fat. Spray Ted. This offensive to animal activists. Are they going to come after us for this? Gloss right over that fucked, but I never talked my Shirley. And never talked truly dice well. It's because we're saying goodbye so. Go ahead. Chuck to one for the road she was going to. Lead encouragement do jug. Cheers. Different. Solitaire Tintin. Off print off friendly curly. It's Kirkland signature sparkling water. Thank you very much. Grapefruit my favorite flavor. Watch. Don't judge me, don't you judge me? Wow I actually didn't see that because you do it one more time just for the. That's what is that your favorite thing to drink and another question when you do drink. Do you just chug like back or I mean I. SIP also usually have a sipping beer and I chugged beers. So. You have a sipping beer, and then you have a chugging beer, yeah! Go get the final this. The worst night that I had. There were many people could attest to. It was I got a Mason Jar. Got I lost my first comedy competition I won the first round, and then they lost second round. It was as comedy competition so at the one that April Walter Shied one. Mind when my rose. I, don't I. Don't know she wanted different one. But. Yeah I. I was I saying Oh, I lost the first one the first round, the loss second round, and so and then my friends were annoying because they weren't paying attention to me, and then it see me win, and then they didn't see me Lou and like. I was a bottle of wine in. This is alcoholism at its. Most fucked up and I went, and I grabbed a mason jar, and I just started. chugging truly is poor two hundred a time. And then I chunk nine. Girl Wow that's. Eight PM at night. At least it wasn't eight. Am I was thinking? That better. Oh God that is a lot of the part that I most upset about is that it's truly you should have done something else I mean that's like gas. was there you know just what was round? That's fair. I can chug anything. That's like the thing My friends have the idea that I should like. Chris Banks again back at it with great ideas. He told me day. He's like gotTA. Stop pointless like pointlessly chugging one. He's like you've gotta do for purpose so like when things opened back up, we'll go out and like I'll pretend like I'll. And I'll like walk up to you when you're talking to some guy, I'll be like Oh my God. I bet you can't chug a beer faster than this girl. She's crazy, and then, of course he'll be like Oh really and be on. No, like no, he don't listen to him, you know. And then I'll bet him twenty dollars, and then you'll win and I'll get twenty dollars. That's his idea. So you guys have got at this self help stuff I want to. Help people get sugar daddies and CON. Strangers in the giving them money come. A sooner baby and the of gritting I think. bestowed. Have you ever tried the gallon challenge. Milk oh no. There's a cat behind you. Special guest? What the name noodle noodle. saw. Making noodles. They are the noodles noodles made themselves this. Themselves and put themselves into this thing. They also made the sauce separately for themselves. Cheese as well as my roommate, my roommate. Liked. High Noodle. Eric talks can see noodle big. Is New only. He's kind of pissy Jimmy Singers Song Man. Season was your. Was your dream job to be on Broadway A Stephan and yes. Six episodes still way. It was calling you. Steffan I was calling you steffan, and then literally my friend correct me and they're like. I say Steph into, but it's Stephen. That's what he's good. No it is fair because there are a lot of Stevens with the H, but phonetically I've never seen. Stuff and that's right you definitely or Stephan. Either one I'll accept, but not Stephen. What else? What about Stepan? Then? Yes? Step Steppenwolf I will take that. Yes, I'll take all of those variations, but Stephen, refuse so. But to answer your question, yes, it is still my dream to be on Broadway continuing to use his podcast as a medium to sing all of our intros ads and throws so it is time to say good baugh. Warming up. Heating up the pipes. But thank you for noticing I appreciate that yeah, do I have what it takes I have the musical chops to be a Broadway star. Simon Cowe ten years ago would say it's a no, but I think Simon Column now on America's got talent would say yes. I seen him saying no to anyone. Wow is he not like a total asshole anymore? So, nice, it's weird. It's because. He had two kids. Yeah, you had a kid. I mean. Not Not that it's bad to have a kid, but. That was his whole thing. Wait. WHO had a kid? Did you have a kid who had a kid? Somebody had a kid Eric Etiquette. Kid. He has him still but. We still know exactly where he is. got a little ankle monitor on. TV on him. It's like we're watching. Like a high risk escape. Because then they scream lemme outta here and sometimes they try to escape once they get bigger. I've just sleep in a cage or a crib, so many parallels. This does it you don't have to. Think of this out, but I had to tell you is because I listen so many of the episodes that I was thinking. So you know how you're talking about how transformers at episode was transformers? They like come together as one same power rangers thrown. I'm talking about. I Dunno I think, but it made me think of orgies. I didn't. Power Rangers always made me think of. That's a robot orgy. Wait a second. They're putting their parts in each other's parts splitting. Are you kidding me? and. There's just one center part that just getting rammed by all of the. I'm the sword. I don't even know what parts of call in that instance I don't dibs. Yeah, but anyway you're right. It is like a big Robo or Yeah. Stephanie Your robot would be the cod piece. What's the cod piece? I? Don't even know what. I liked the beast. Pieces like the crotch armor on a suit of. Very fitting I like because essential. You don't WanNa you gotTa have it. In a battle you don't WanNa. Have, the unprotected. God Dude I was thinking about that. I don't know what I was watching. It was a yes, these are our thoughts. Go I was watching. One of those Netflix shows it was about King Edward or king, no king, Henry the eighth and there were slicing each other up in battle and I was like God. What if you just got slice in the Dick? That would feel so painful and so time out. Oh, yeah, like hey. Frenchie pause for Zach but. I wonder why they call it a cod piece. Because you, clean it with fish oil. Now, I'm kidding me. So Mike. Guys believed me for. You just throw some noodles on their pad Thai. Type. Doubles as a serving bowl. Like. Oh God eggs over easy menu item go. And with that I feel like that's the best closing statement that we can muster so. Guys it's time to say goodbye. Sadly, but Shan thank you so much for joining us. What have you got to plug what? Besides robots for a big robot. Well, I, have a podcast. He's like I. Know All about robot or We could go on for another hour about Jesus. It's like after he had a kid, and he just six those Russian. Sex Dolls. He's like yeah. Okay. ANYWAYS, yeah, I've got the PODCAST I actually. Long Story Short. My podcast is about the completely change. Because of some of builders personal advice. He gave to Bert Kreischer. Not Me, I listen to it and I'm GonNa take the advice and I'm GonNa just talk to myself. It's GonNa be a horrible podcast. I would like to ask people not to listen to it at least a year. Next year twenty twenty two. You can listen to seriously shannon and it will probably be funny by then. Solo. Yeah. I'm just going to do with Solo I may have a guest on every now and then but. This is what happened. Burt was talking to Delilah on his podcast I listen a lot of podcast. Because of the drive was so fucking long for Sacremento, Leeann he's like you know. When I started my podcast bill told me you should do it on your own. And I was like. Why like I'll be bad music? Yeah, it's supposed to be bad, but after like a year two years they'll be good, and it will make your riding really good for your state for the stage stuff. And he was like. Yeah. No I think I'm just GONNA do guests. Bert Kreischer, personality, no, but like me. I was like that sounds like a challenge to make me. Funnier and better at this I would say do it because I all. Paul Versi, who opens for Bill Burr and he has a comedy central special out I. It's Bill Burr presents. I don't remember the fucking name of it, but it was pretty fun. It was hilarious, but he also got the same advice for Bill Burr, Bill Burr is screaming from the top of the is like fuck it podcast like just you. Dog. I was practising. Practising that in the core. Bill Burton podcast and I kept on copy and Bill I. Don't know why, but I can't do it. It's it comes with lots of practice, and you gotta down more truly I think. Mark Bill Burr is more like a coors light kind of guy. A CIGAR I've gotta get like a cigar. That's GONNA. Get me in the. Butt, but Pulver Z. was telling me that you do it Solo. It really helps with your comedy as well because you just gotTa. Say what you gotTA. Say and you're GONNA fuck up. You stumble, but then you start to get more relaxed speaking your thoughts. Also, I figure like you just probably are better at coming up with random shit to talk about. You know sure yeah. Yes. I'M GONNA. Take that advice podcast. I feel like a Dick I sucked up April's episode. April Walter side effect per episode like three times now because. Just recruiter episode I'M GONNA Post. It be my last episode. Of this podcast acities. Why don't you interchange it? Why don't you guessed? Guests Solo. Can do that. It's scaring me though with. Stuff I'm scared. I'm never I don't know I wanted to just do remote. I've done that for some of them but I've had so many technical difficulties get discouraged. If you ever need help. A hundred dollars now. Happy to help any time if you take. But so you're telling people. Yeah anyways city your podcast. This is my podcasts. Like your friends on it, then definitely listen to it and that way. You can tell them that you did not lie and. You know follow me on Instagram Shantz fees I will I shore. Tell you if there's. A specially interesting episode. Had such a cool episode. That I fucked up. I WANNA shouted out. Follow Lee MC g on instagram. He is a graphic designer for us now. Oh, there's an episode with him and my audio. Ange! Bad Ass he wants to do stand up I love that. I'm using your podcast to just promote one of by guest, so they didn't get on, but he wants to do. Stand up. He told me that in the podcast and I made him commit to it, and yes, just use this time to promote him go league. That's amazing. That's that's really cool. That's really cool, so thank channel I'll have. All the links in the show notes to follow Shans guest and not her or podcast. So, that's great Eric. Do you have anything you want to say with Kovic no-shows anything but. I got nothing shutout to everyone wearing a mask. You're doing right thing. Yeah, boy, I! Like it for all of you guys listening. We've been wearing masks the whole time here, so you can't see our smiles or expressions. God. chugging bear with. Scott. Oh. Maybe we should do that. All of us one of these episodes we'll do. A horrible idea. Probably. passed. Get the bane mass yes. You do subscribe. Today JR Inspire, robot. Inspiring, okay, all right well, thank you. Sean connery with a with stuff title. Regret the day your cross. All right well? Another beautiful note to end this podcast on, so thank you Shannon thank you, Eric, thank you everybody listening. We'll talk at you next week. Bye Bye man. And stay.

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So esther any questions this question at a in a side Stanford Cristo Stole a aside censor. What are you drinking coffee coffee coffee heading drink caffeine? I get if I don't drink as you know the first question. No the first question is how do you feel about this. This is from Grin. And how do you feel about Dan. Merkley Oughta coaching strove to continue. After the second low blow in its fight with Rothwell and suggest that struve was up on the scorecards at personally found that very inappropriate think arrest only concern. Should be fiber safety. Yes okay so you there for the USC ON ESPN said car in Washington. D C Stephenson Double not kits by Ben Rothwell and he was buying on the ground. I read about that as awesome video of it. By the time I was just Lou Rolling on the ground laughing and I think that really is the the thing we need to talk about not not some roughing coaching yeah. Yeah we know he's is supposed to do that. I am a Buddhist. Would you say you've commented on us through said to stop giving Denver degrees. Because he's comment he's what refereed enough times and he's a good ref and I think there was a he picture of. He had a compromise on win and in the past Dan Merkley OUGHTA has led fight. His fights go on longer than people should. And he's one. I can't remember what the fight was. Goes leave him alone if he wasn't my reference this I'd never would've had this incredible from high winds understand. Dan was Defending yeah because uh he wasn't gonNA pull he wasn't going to. Dan shouldn't have done it. There's a lot of shouldn't have done you know in the sport you shouldn't have done on it and Yeah he he's he's supposed to you see it all the time guys get guys get kicked a nut nuts in. Hey you go to that corner because the other coaches are telling hey rest or whatever or you know no bow out or you know so. That's that's all. He should be saying she was saying how much time you got. Go to the opposite side of the cage. So you can't can't you can't Communicate with require as he should have said Noah Ngeny Steph drew said that it's not the end of the world is not like we're GonNa Mazda got him or something. Yeah it was what Because I was doing twitter reacts for that for the site like twitter reaction accident the all the fights and a lot of related wait. Did the referee just tell him that he could Shuki fighting because he can probably coast to win a lot of fighters thought it was inappropriate But steph eventually said. He didn't really care says nine. He's a nine out of ten fighters I believe Interviewed him like the next day or so. He said nine heads it's empires. Woody continued fighting anyway even if Dan Didn't give him that pep talk so at the end of the day you don't care it's unfortunate that happened But he said the rules time scrudem scrudem because it was like to low blows like that could win. Dui I guess. I'm not sure. But he said nights fighters would have to do it on even if Denmark admirably. I didn't say anything. Can you said he would fighting even standards anything. Yeah pretty much. Yeah but but I was GonNa say oh I was about I was about to. They know I'm done. I was GONNA say no moth my gun. My boss or gone or modify a weird scenario where while how many people are not arena aptitude aptitude out of ten thousand. People are cheering about your testicles not hamper chairing after booming zone in the US agents gone incredibly cruel but very funny funny. It's new me. Emma may twenty Twen Yeah. I'm I'm not. I'm not all about the nationality chance during fights but I don't know that exception. What other nationality chance to get sides is USA on there are not it's only it's only USA it's usually Sometimes not even American fight like could be Canadian versus is a Brazilian. And they'll still just like you say for the White Guy there has been You're you're in the arena more than I am. has there been no now. Brazil man head coach chance actually just saying the name of the country. No no no one. Chance really. I've never seen in and you'll see or or so okay. So but not in the regular right. It's uh-huh yeah it's it's weird. I never heard a candidate Canada or so but basically you ask about the Coaching strove and our answer is more. USA chance when When opposing fires get kicked in the boss else? That's our answer all right next question with This is from Malan Tino US make our hands with the reese. Comments Colby has made about Dana and seeing daynuss response at the previous presser. I think of Colby Lewis to Dana will cut him. He seems very mad. Colby has made more comments this week. Do you think they will release him big Fan from Australia so the question was is Kobe GonNa get Liz Carr mooched base gate lose the title fight. You're out no no no no way. Kobe Michael content is carved himself a niche. That love them or hate them. People are interested in what he has to say now like he said himself that supposedly so supposedly What was the show he was on? He did like that. Sit Down interview candidates canzone. He said that before Daniel His last night his contract and usually one cut him him They told him win. OR LOSE WE'RE GONNA CUT US and then he keeps starts to do that. Stick like where he called Brazil dirty animals of whatever you call whatever you call them. Many people call them. Racists in that gun talk in the very next fight Lozano's another Brazilian and he had that boomerang thrown by breezy over doom. So that Promo got a lot of eyeballs on this absolutely zero chance. You've actually said if you win this fight. We're still going to cut you. This is just a zero chance that happened and now now we believe everything Koby says. Kobe still selling the fight as all he's doing. I mean he even even breaks cave Mel tonight. which sucks is supposed to do that? Come on man when I when I saw that cain zones flip was talking about how like this I had i. Did this like Promo whatever all I could think of was Jail Sonnen getting upset for like what is pulling the curtain behind the business that Brandon cave so wasn't a fan of that Even Henderson Doodo of himself. Lisa Hensley who knows done that too. He's like I'm not this. I'm like cringe not trendy. This is like me turned up. I'm like don't say that. Make people believe like live the gimmick so but it was no steering so the question was Kobe get cut your loses. No no absolutely not. No he won't get cut for performance. It does now. He may say something completely wrong. Like just bad things you should not say that may happen Kevin but independent of actual punching someone. He's he's for a while. Not because there's a lot of fighters like people want to see if I mas Rudolph people want to Liam fight. Fortunately Menasian was not retired. I'm sure people WANNA see fights There's people that people who who knows that they've been at Kobe out there and they can throw some money at Ben who who the heck knows Table bins then still on earth. He's not even then leave. You know so. We said he's GonNa hip surgery and he doesn't want to coach. Mainly only may soon barbara. That's been aspirin. said he doesn't want to coach. He's I'm only he's only GonNa do wrestling is not going to be. He's not gonNA work with Rufus anything he's GonNa Coach macy barber. That's about. It begins a big bags of money. Changes your thing changes your ideal that is true that is true okay from strike taught Amex if Joe's Aldo is able to win a belt at one thirty five Fif- give the the biggest F- has ever been. That's what it says. Actually it says Bingo I that is how big is the biggest me. Change fought to like her medicine practice measly bigger. Where would that I put him in the all time greats discussion and will it help him recover from some of the damage that the connor? Ko did to his life Of the Bantamweight title it would. Certainly I already inserted jostle graceful revolt on IT industries legacy lost a fight it. That's BS everyone. Everyone lost a main type thing. Destroy destroy the next effected his legacy destroys legacy. It's like no lost like Rhonda's still like one of the greatest fired vault again and she got head had kids in the knocked out Internet distort. I think the actions after distorted legacy more than getting knocked out. Then that's not the world like Josie on the Lawson D- Didn't make can you know you know again. Destroys legacy is the fact that we're reading this question. The fact that the greatest feather way of our time is going to awake last he should not be at and he's facing using probably the second best bantamweight in the world a very violent bantamweight any spacing that guy and coming skeleton. This weekend is going to have more effect on his legacy. I think been anything as I think almost like when. BJ went down to forty five. And you know Oh sorry. Taking those horrible Feith on their those started killing his ex. It's like those continuing Those losses in different weight classes afterwards. Those are going unhurt Lexi. Despite if he gets he gets doesn't make way even if it doesn't make wiggins just gets demolished by Martin or whatever. We'll see what happens. This is much more than the connor loss would yet. I have shades of Dig Sanchez went down to featherweight. And he's like I'm GonNa reinvent myself often this and that and then he came up short Allow tried to go down the lightweight. New York Diego Point Five Kerama PSOMAS A guy. WHO's in the top five by the time like I I I just don't this is incredible? These guys he wasn't even a top five lightweight so he goes to federal way and goes even higher in the ranking. Somehow the Diego Sanchez. Yeah and so I just even the auto he loses Volkan asking who is who is ranked at the time rank. Top Five Live maybe two now. Whatever but but I but he's going down so autos going down down last and finding a guy that's arguably higher in the rankings kings than his previous opponent like now hopefully coming out of the thirty? I'm facing name a guy in the top thirty are- known. I'm Jimmy Jimmy Way to rookie. Simone know who is who ever Ricky Simone beat in third fight. UFC whoever that guy was Rania. That's going if you just letting Ronnie Ir. Yes I'll be okay. I could. I could see that as a test to from the going into Marlin. Mariah's remember Marmaris did to actually remembered the first round With pseudo the last three Title fight a He was crumbling. crumpling people just putting Melton financing people. Like if he like John Dodson abandon. I'm where I pulled up the top fifteen advancing Casey canning. I'm talking guys. Who Lower Research done talking about topics like who is ranked number thirty? Okay guys we just. I can't think the name of right now. If he saw Brian Care with someone like that I I would love to buy a strong grappler. Yahya Gallia caraway like there's so many thirty virus like a dame's living. I can't think of 'cause like there's so many you know we'll even cody statement said in your scrum with the pre. I think it was the prefight media days. Grandma he's like I think outside of one fifty five one thirty fives the divas class in. That's that's not because of talent it's just more people look at one fifty five because look the average size human one thirty fives justice. Taxes won't fifty five. I don't know if I agree with that. Hundred five pounds is the most Stack Division in the AFC federal looking real great to right now but vanoy way up there. So there's a lot to answer your question. Asian striker Amex sixty nine cage warrior. No won't affect his legacy at all. Do we know all all if he wins the was if he wins he wins the championship. Hundred thirty five pounds. He's what is he going from the top ten fighters of all time top five fighters of all time At so distant Simon. We're talking. I WanNa see if you Mitch. Wait I lost. Would this loss in this weekend could affect his legacy more than the audit as I wanNA honest I wanted more than McGregor what we said more than Aldo fit shirt. Yeah I WANNA see wait I because he's not looking. I'm grateful those. Even he makes way I WANNA see if he makes way like say he makes way in he goes. I don't know if I can do this again. Yes I'm like I like Chris. cyborg always said this Cyborg said that I can make under thirty five pounds. I just can't show up and fight like Cyborg the next day and I think all those going to make a hundred here I I doubt me. I think he's the hundred thousand five hundred thirty six but it's how he looks Saturday night walking that cage and if he fights pseudo he would one thirty five and does he have his body. audie handle five rounds after that way around fight like he is his could his body handle that one. Extra Pound GonNa want an to Morales slap questions. Pay Your sixty bucks much on. Pay Per view out Conor McGregor excited thirty five pounds heavier than him in good God. It's it's like thinking of a Charlie Brennan in Anthony. Johnson fought at light welterweight. Now one of those of light way. One of them's not fighting heavyweight might freight Franson Ghana. John Wesley you're right Mr Brooks in the chat would like to know if Holloway Loses. Does he get the immediate arena again. So I think he's wanted who especially how it depends on how. Well I guess it would depend on how it plays out I. I don't think there's one way if I can play out that war. He doesn't he wear he doesn't really gets melted. Four seconds Yahoo Rematch. Actually because he absolutely would get a rematch why why Aldo melting thirteenth. by WHO. Yeah what do you think the C. stands run you ever yes of course no yeah rematch. There's nothing I can happen. In this fight he won't get rematch unless he gets all of you. Who Do we have do? We have volume Frankin Franken Couple weeks now note. None of those more tickets are cells. Won't pay per views then Holloway rematch. Halloween grinded out for twenty five minutes. Gone along the cage he'll still get a rematch again. Knocked out in two seconds get a rematch. I think he would also because maximum undiminished access health. That's what about because remember to. UFC Two forty in Edmonton someone. Absolute when do you want to return. Because they added fuel On that Australia you goes Brain Scans I so if he gets like crossed in this fight and he is you take twelve months for rematch once. He's healthy shore. But maybe bulk amounts mutation of a flying Corey's we have Rhonda situation where volunteers to fight someone in uses in the maximum or like Yet Ron never rematched holly. She ended edifying Amanda on a return. Holly lost a mission. The Mutual Ostermann than I think the questions based in Hollywood loses with his next fight will be still. He'll still be the title unless there's some cutting issues where he goes up five or something like that but assuming all those are good. Yes I must be. Yacky might not want confederate ever again and the only reason auditing rematch of forty five is because of connor situation. Yeah in the end when hunters next by Frank Frank Lloyd again. No no concert. Getting into all the expert was used to run against Franken auto did get direct rematch. Innocent in general. Yeah Ah came you came straight back for a title shot so so It was connor. That didn't accept it. 'cause I think Honda WanNA fight. Frankie Frankie Avalon John. Connor would fall Frankie at one forty five hundred percent a hundred percent. I think that's a fight conor wishes. You haven't got one point three but that go that I I don't know I remember. They were doing like that the UFC did like it's weird thing where com this is before. Remember two hundred. Connor was there. He was standing on. Knows what I'm saying if Frankie had being Aldo left. He would've fought at one forty five again. He would franken one. forty-five Bobby. Yeah I think definitely as if you look at that. He like before even for the album fire rated like the top ten of the AFC Z.. Like what's Everyone in Frankie's He had something the ad like a promo on everyone in the top. Fifteen I'm gonNA got the franchise like what will I saved. Frankly that dude's alleged connor nate Connor and eight to to to a blouse. One Seventy Yana Connors time on jammed with so zoe fought a dentist. seaver in Boston in Aldo on men is at one eighty nine hundred lie Ou- December UC one nine four. And they're supposed to fight. After it was on one for five at one eight six. The designers fell broken footsie by NATO one seventy native Eddie wanted to five. UC to a five took. That long laugh fought mayweather in August and then took another long. Your long life in the Nevada Habib Easy President there's a lot about events. The also fought Sweden while Max in Boston because connor has a long I was looking at this like the people were like. Why does he find him surrounding? He doesn't Connor. Doesn't like find like Serono Guy will pull out right. He doesn't want 'cause he was. Do you remember who is supposed to fight instead of Max. Mass take replacement. I sent a Mac. Os Max on the Boston card. Andy Ogle useless Andy on the prelims of the first ever episode card in in twenty year old Max stepped up and then the next up for advice next up that far and for Connor and then the next next fight conor had 'cause memory blues knee out he's supposed to return those coal millet in Dublin. Then he got he had nerve damage any day over announced it and then he was supposed to fight Aldo fell out. And you're supposed to fight Fell out of context late replacements. So what you're saying is Sironi Wigan injured and he'll still show up now you if you're injured injured being shown that maybe o'connor apparently had his. ACL shredded he's still showed up. He wasn't even motivated. The focus now jeeze motivating focus. Come on his foot was a balloon. Yeah Majete as structured Camp Oreo. Oh yeah I think it was refined. Hey I'm Jason Dell right. I recently wrapped up land of the giants. The rise of Amazon. In this this podcast we examined. 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He gets an exception Goff hotter here since work out of an excel but so who does Justin H. H. E. fight next winter felder hooker. That's Justin just sit out until next year in Connor is GONNA fight. Mazar doll wins in the gauge. Could fight the winner of Habib Abib. Tony who knows but just engaged like there's really known unless he is itching to return like right now Franson. Ghana was the right from Contender heavyweight so he could sit out and pull the After kelvinside out for a year or like car lamas I think. Be Eric Coke in the sat out for year in the fall although New Jersey. He could do do that but he wants to fight he could fight. Doing are just engaging has to do everything you'll see in connor wants them to do. That's what's going to happen just engaged. You just engage you. Wants to buy title. Don't matter doesn't want to happen or Connor Beats Ceremony Connors. Getting it. It's up it's up to them. It's suggest engaging Yeah I'm not I'm not doing like a court. Of course. Justin should be should be five next of course but also the timeline just doesn't lineup 'cause like ones that fight that Habib Ferguson played his April so then caught. And then when did one was the iphone Vancouver over that September so his last September. So Antioxidant Hubby Eh hubby fight in April. You probably won't fight again until November or December. So that'd be more than a year layoff for just engaged to waste title shot. And that's if Habib winced Tony Ferguson wins. Why wouldn't they want to run that exactly like just engaging if he wants to fight like who can I don't I don't think he wants to buy? I think he wants to fight for that title. And he'll do you remember when at the dominance He says he wants to be more than he wants to fight for. The title is he wants to test himself against B. So if Talia but he's saying that under the assumption that if we if we if Tony just steamrolls Habib you think just engaged. She's GonNa get on micro. I still want the guy that got his ass kicked. No we'll what I'm saying. Is that when I am what I've unstoppable. What I'm saying is if say Tony Ferguson Visa Vive and then they wanted like Tony versus connor? Why not make age versus Beat because both of them because it's a massive because that should be gauged not gonNA take. I think that she has a little bit of pride. In that way. I have to the guy demolished. Lose it again. That guy gets in front of me. I mean let's money talks man like mine if I B which they're not. I don't know that giving give him championship money for non. If I you'll see probably not it doesn't get you're GONNA be. We might actually just get you while. That's why I think I hope not. What if it's in Russia we'll give you a lot of money to go they? Am Championship money. Yeah he's a prizefighter he's he he is a prizefighter you know he wants bags of money. That's what they're doing this for so if they pay changing money. Yeah you'll take him for all. We know that April fight could fall fall out again for the fifth time and just in case she fights in spills in for one of them. Anyway maybe he fights any for the INTERTIDAL. So that's just just engaged. She's relying on it so I'm getting. He said this career and said he would fill do a service. Backup under the right circumstances which is obviously money and this is also under the assumption. We we have no idea if he would accept defy against someone completely scientifically different. Yeah he for sure for sure like he he one hundred percent would because I remember when all that nonsense Twenty three in the Wadi Finding Allie Kingston to fight on two days. Notice he goes. If you're a good fighter you can be anywhere anytime. I don't care when Mike ponant shaped like this was when they did the press conference staredown with those who use it could've been admitted pedestal FELDER doesn't matter like if I think the best I should be able to be anyone anyway time so I don't think I think if anyone would for sure take that fuck just because he's he's done in the past one. Study Power of say I if if Habib is headlining a pay per view if Tony has hurt again and Habib's have on card in Brooklyn you think Habib's going to pull out of that Brooklyn Card no way but that dart art a win against our no way. No I'm saying like because the next way is twenty six also in Brooklyn so tony gets hurt. You think he's GonNa turn out just engaging in pull out of that car no way abuse stay on that no matter what. You don't know that I'm pretty confident if I'm wrong if you're wrong so I dunno shaved moustache them's the breaks. 'cause I'm wow okay well just one more Marcano questioning because it's in here. I don't think it makes a fighter more bad ass at all. I think it's a bad idea I don't need I don't need to train or particular. Oh no I'm I'm not saying that. It's bad astronaut. I'm saying we have. There's like something to go off of the Habib's done that in the past so there's nothing to say that he wouldn't do it again. Paladin Boza in the chat. Actually has you know has an interesting question which is does connor retire after cow if cowboy this ties no no. He's GONNA if he loses he's GonNa do the nature of the impedes near both in agreement. Because I did the repeats a few weeks ago and he said the same thing aim does cowboy boots connor. That he's GonNa Retire. Unlike no he's GonNa take the nate rematch. The nature of the both coming off losses. What other fight will obviously cars big name no matter what but that would be two losses in a row he would have lost three or four was last anime fights? Since if you're including the mayweather fight them lost four five fights at the end of the day congress a big draw we have to win and the nate fight is a big fight and they're both coming off losses and they knock him. Go ahead coming off a loss. They're not going to be titled Shop Coming off the Law. So what's the next week but you could have coming off a loss in that So I think if he loses he doesn't h he loses snaith But if you beat Keeps going on site just by just fights wherever the money is short in that nate nate if he loses obsolete the name. That's obvious one is the biggest fight he could take. Those on. One may go out of my stupid again the way my new car floyd again. Yeah Connor Connor Connor Connor outlets. Let's slip back to this week. Diego Giancarlo Camila with or crooked. I don't know I don't know if he's Brazilian or where does Leon Scott I think he means Edwards Edmonds. Yeah where does Leon Edwards fit into the title picture after Covington this get you need to fight for. Supposedly the wants to fight. A tire would Leeann main vendors in London. Battalion really doesn't want that. Well he doesn't want the fight in London and that's what he says. The guys are saying. Oh I just go to a number of occasions like that all that thing is like hey you tell me some more money. That's all that is yes so I don't. I liked that fight. We on words entire time where they had. You can make sense. But if time really doesn't take then I don't know who I'm looking at the welterweight rankings. Right now Be already failed on knows does David Doesn't have five feet of Scott hurt. Stephen Thompson broke his hand. So he's GonNa be on the show for awhile. He's not fighting at. This is going back to lightweight. Rob Lawlor this yet. He just used by Ponds Nubia Fall out of this card. The silver lawler pulled out resenting Lucas taking time off man event. That's all we're going down to thirteen in Magnesium Jeff Neal I think the only one I would like to fight is positive if the Woodley fight doesn't happen. Whatever happens Liane Edwards? He's probably he's lost shuffling. He has defend yesterday. He has to demolish someone. That's according yet he has hair. Yeah he has. He has to demolish someone is ridiculous. Shit on the MIC. And then maybe he'll get a title shot. That's I don't think he's GonNa Leapfrog anyone welterweight away unless he says ridiculous crap I guess as he just liked Colby Wins Liana was knocked out Woodley. He grabbed her American flag. Smashes is a this is for. We'll coming back. Does the what if he does it to the Cuban flag calzado because they already have three piece part of the three pieces of Soda History. I think he's more no I think he's I think if things go crazy. Mazda Edwards is more likely than not as with all mean than Edwards. Getting a title shot. Yeah I don't think Edwards is getting a towel sign time soon. No reason other than that. He doesn't he doesn't move the needle enough now he also is only fought in the. US twice. He's always on those early morning cards like he's a good fighter booking newest once right that was to thirty two L. Mendez would in time he was he had. I know you're right. I keep thinking he was on that Boise carbs Jan Mendez. Now Boise Guardia. Right I win was doing his time line video. He's never fought he's only fought in the states once. And this is first time in Vegas It's going to be as for time. Base Boise. He was on that Boise for a card. Well now Dan gains nobody. No one's there doesn't count you think I'm talking to pay per view buys on camp. They really don't you mean you didn't soon Mansa Watch. Jd as blogger. Ivankov in State Northridge Zach Auto. That was the only tune-in voyeur. Why didn't bother me is now that was the Niko price hammerfest off the back? Geez okay alright just remember. No one remembers Boise. I do. No one remembers I do say Boise Loyd Corner Wellstone that car reform on all right. Actually I look it up On his name is Leon Scott Edwards is i. I don't know if it's really his real name but like it's kind of everywhere I can't tell if it's just it's like a joke so I'm GONNA call. I think Colby call him the on Scott Carr someone some welterweight call them Leon stock as like a joke images people say when people call them are Marty. It's gonNA spend so much. Yeah I don't remember who said yes as I say people people agenda that people stop. Oh now that's called comedy. Yes yes I apparently. Apparently it's called comedy we zones name. That's not rename Yup Chacha good answer Leicester. ELC would like to know who you are picking grandma newness and Max Coconut It's hard against Amanda so I think if if if if a mandate keeps it standing then of course it's a toss up fight the mandate uses the wrestling takes your down. I think that that Sudan. Obviously it's a it's a it's a it's a higher probability to victory. I think that's I would. If I'm Abedin Man I would put Amanda by submission. Yeah I mean if you want but that's what happens but opposition on the the first fight right dude if you have you. We watch that I find. I remember watching that and I was a big JD. Arfan coming to fight Jay. There's junior and she looks so bad in that fight and or German dramatic so bad. I thought that was the last time we're ever going to see her. Fighting a high level life life. She looked she got taken down basically like she quit and she was out for almost a year and a half after that and her follow up victory I can't remember because she wanted against but she wanted Pachinko on a good prospect at the time way too young men Ese. But that's she's doing very good call right now but She came back. She basically said my mentality by training was just completely off in the past for those five different women with different person now a different fighter and I see it and so I now I believe in now but I remember coming out that Nunez The first one I was like oh cheese done I She doesn't want to be here and she met and actually I was kind of happy. Lucy admits he confirmed my suspicions. He did say a year later. Yeah I was not not in the right Performed three incense then. She's only fought once a year. She fought twenty eight fifteen one sixteen seventeen eighteen so this is her first first year with two fights since two thousand thirteen. That's why I don't know I knew. She was fairly inactive because memory when rather Denver Vice said she is On She's going through logic cry Jet Jet Broken Hands Jetty. Ice Arrange she thought she was gonNA lose her is there is a freak accident. What's your timeline? Find out what happened but yeah newness it Wen but if your main knocked her out I won't be shocked now. Germain it takes now submits Nunez. That will be very shocking. I'll ask I'll ask you this now because at UC to thirty nine a man who was fighting holly a lot of people were calling Amanullah greatest his fighter female fighter of all time leading fight. And you were very adamant that she was not there yet. You still put Rhonda Number One after the homefires. Do you put a man of the grace fighter female fighter of all time Arna. I think this version of Amanda is degraded Hussein inner cage This version Amanda now. I still have issues. Doing the whole issue issued fight about time because she's had lot Amanda lots of bad fights she's had lots of mediocre vice you sat. She's lost to mid level fighters so like But like almost different eras in amandas career but this version lasts like five six years Amanda Newness. Ns demanded as has been doing this for ten years. Now I I. It's I five years of her career. were very hit or Miss Lewis. Last four four years I think After the casting gone loss the defeated after. Yeah that that by like much like when Germain Las meninas previously. She came back different fighter that cats in Ghana loss journalist came back is 'cause 'cause before newness loss because she she got grinded out by wrestlers got taken down eventually got tired and submitted but catches decrease She full mount on. Can I first round. And then and then she got like toss in the second and third round before she got Cares monitoring the top. Yeah Yeah but since. Then she's being allotted with fighters it's the very violently to very quickly the only so I I just think man of news. This era managers is the best female fighter. We've seen at bantamweight ever the only talking about is this version still better than Rhonda when Rhonda was just we again. I don't know I think. Level of competition Fight is slightly higher than Rhonda's Level Competition During her tear through like she auguring. Yes I think I think McMahon liked him tune Fights for good I think I think they're both one a one B while I heard amandas manages Kayode Cyborg. Tko like Rousey submitted. Tate beat Valentina twice she does have the one over. Julia Budd strikeforce did you win over. NFC Women's champion Shane Bazeley. Let's another champion. She's be If you go back and watch Alexis Davis Wash it Saturday. I I like. It's kind of like. Wow you're kinda like this woman isn't the best in the world it's Kinda like Oh. She's a brawler but that's about. It wasn't yeah wasn't training New Jersey. Backbone she was in my master's which is another camp in Florida. I I think I I know Riccar Llamas. This part of them is together. I think car obviously your ats. That I'm not sure Wednesday T- might have been after the catfight. Oron generally don't know. Yeah but yeah her can't change update. DT was Definitely brought out her censor censored catfight. Decision She's adware against Valentino bouncing and one of them was split while she lost Sh. Okay I want to go one more question for this and then I wanna I wanNA actually we have gone a lot of DC questions the one who is the most likely to lose their out this weekend. Camara Yeah Kamar. Because I'm not a big tomorrow I think of all the Do that's the closest competitively. I think I I woke and is I think a real good chance of beating Max of course but I think the author and that's why I think it's great. Yeah I agree. All anyone could see three title changes like I think the last aspen is usually seventeen yard. TJ Cody the GOP. Be Being in Roseby Johanna We could see that again on Saturday but a heavy favourite going share. She was she got crushed. Those three stoppages too but I do. I do agree with you. I think I'm imagining Kalyan. That fight. I think that's like toss up for me like who wins that one and being tomorrow but but Kobe surprise me all right. Let's switch To the DC card people are asking about Franson got him since might have a jersey. Neil Rosen streep yes do you think that's going to be the next. That Hari sure hope so is furnished him oracle. I don't want that fight because because I want both those guys on both those guys have title shots. So that's the problem. We we not a more continuous other out then. You don't don't have multiple contenders. So who should they fight to. Obviously if if it just in a vacuum yeah of course when the fight every weekend but from a matchmakers point of view. I don't know how much sits that makes the top to take out to number one. Contenders may take takeout Those guys I guess the thing is diesel. DC has already said that the fight is is drilled against debate will most likely gene summer because they're both yelling up which means Francis would have had his last fight was July He would have had to wait a year and then he would have to wait another like x amount of months for a title shot if he wants to stay busy in said he wants to return March or April made when summer. Why not book that on the same car that stupid? DC because DC's pulled out fights before like just have standby for plus if DC wins and he retires steepest gum. His next fight is going to be for the vacant heavyweight away championship and then put Francis in franchising than beyond same timeline. Because they both fought on the same card I think that makes it similar to one. GSP Default Hendrix On the main card was lawler McDonald's in when he wanted vacated Hendrikse lawler fought because it bolts. Were on the same timeline. I'd like that idea. India like you said if it's a vacuum yet of course but the promise Francis is like you take pro for him. I bet in his mind he thinks. big boys a tougher fight than Bo cough. Or whoever it whoever might find for a title so it's just such a high risk fight for not that much some money and compared to a title fight. So who the 'cause junior now fighting curtis blades but Francis already be in blades twice dirt. Sheriff Loses Fighting Latifi and then after that Jersey knows the next man up Amer Volkov. They're five six. Why is there Louis? Find Your TV. Donna unlike a number five ranked heavyweight is fighting a completely unranked. He's not find like a former title challenger the finding us he's fighting a to ever Donna journeyman that is actually just makes Arabia's Maria Latifi wins he's GonNa jump up like number six right away really. TV Dame Corny beat staying Forcing a job at bustle. But I'm saying like if you WANNA make another container fight like the only one that would make sense that they're not booked Giardina win Francis or Volkov like any one of those streets because unfortunately over just while all over his loss to the St Will Harris isn't GonNa find any time soon then after that you have a bunch of fighters names that I can't pronounce Anthony Johnson and there you still got a bunch other to a fibers. Who might go up and way up there? I don't know yet. You Still Got John Jones. Just take it. They throw a bunch of money. At Him Value Rosen streak in Oregon. Oh Volkov Ron Johnson was the question. What do you think about that fight? Yeah it's cool. I actually don't think it's going to happen. It could. What if it turns into into another Lewis in Ghana where they're both like dumb? Whether it was those were a lot of it was a a series of unfortunate events that led to that that same unless both fighters coming in their injured and they literally need a paycheck then. Because that's all because people forget that. Douglas Douglas That fight was against any other heavyweight in the world outside Derek. Lewis the two win there earlier. I can't do anything more than this. And you just look tough like that. Was the reason a so there was no action. So if anyone comes out France's friends the usual so you would've woken up yet him. He wakes up. But if you're never gonNA hit him he just Kinda that was just a a series of important events led to that fully. It was a mark Monday doing Julie. So all we're down and I I still have issues with that. She can choose celebrations and they may get punishment. The celebration for Sean Celebration for people are around Mark Knopfler actually Martin. Did you spin a cam. As he's a man he's a man. Mark is a man and the fun questions and got a cluster actually will also about DC SORTA from from Louis or baby usage here. I still not seen that show. So you know. It's it's a video game video game since there's been so much talk about testicles. Getting smashed non recently what is the worst. Hit the balls. y'All have had person. You spar a lot more than me I got I got oh I got whacked in the balls before came at the Vegas Yeah. It was wrestling a single switch legs. Okay and I got. I always always workup no matter what I was like our light wrestling today. I'm going to be a little lazy. That begin thirty seconds to put my cup on of course hangovers. Ride the middle in barely man when it comes up underneath. Oh Good Lord. It's like it's it's a different feel. It's a different feel and it's one of those those you've got to take down I was Kinda I was Kinda memory. Oh you hit me my Dick and then like I was trying to play it off then it just starts hurting more and more or more and then like by about fifteen seconds later I was like oh I can't do this anymore. So it Kinda starts hearing moves. It's interesting Phil. But then once I went to actually stopped. GotTa stop it and again I was trying to rest then a guy he kinda got it fighters. They hit the Boston like they go. uh-huh go to go to the corner and they kind of sit there for a while and they start going. ooh Yet because when you stop moving that's when it Kinda starts building up I was actually told by a a fighter when you get when he told me when he got kicked in the deck. Either you take the fight the whole vibe minutes or you immediately go back out there and fight that's what you often see the fighters You can dig in there. They can't take a couple of seconds and gone to go. And you hear it. I D C Arro- take you five minutes but why talk to these guys. These guys said the only way for that to go away is a have another man trying to kill you because your body can only really concentrate on one type of pain. You know so like if I I can't work with my boss because I got fucking Pentagon about the fucking Brit my face off so Yeah I got so yesterday. That's hitting the boss a lot on language for our youth listeners. The gallon or something. That was important information. This was my TESCO. Talk that replace crystals Crystal my answer would be one of the many times I've fallen short. Soften Baseball GROWNUP during in a game or just or just building in Rhode Island. When I was coming up comedy call practice baseball? Practice passing egging Bike practice fight camp baseball practice. Okay not like you have practice every day you'll go you know baseball training Go to training camp to like work on by hitting US up like a practices like in game scenarios. We don't go fight because we're GONNA fight back this year but animates not sports entertainment so Rabin Rhode Island for baseball starts in the marksman the grass still frozen. So you get a lot of those weird skips off of frozen grass. That's the answer. Are you wearing shorts doing. I'm sure have you uh-huh okay. Yeah let's not go onto testicle talk forever at Dennis we know about I. Every van needs to get hitting the ball once to understand. You See Casey about just be like Casey. I've watched the keeps this runoff. Kick you yeah blue like like a kick in the nets and chain USA. That's the only time I'm going to do the professional wrestling. What were you just hit behind? Hit with basically the disease is going under. The Art came right up under brilliant question. Do question whatever person okay. Dennis Loris would like to know how does balance where do a welterweight tournament and have mvp not anyone from the tournament. I got building a guy backup but seriously. He's thirty two and shouldn't be considered a prospect anymore. How are we supposed to take him seriously? Fighting your local mailman have you seen the LEXI gets. He does really well. He does really well fighting. Not Nobody if I if I if I see level bullfighters skyser aren't quite for the big show but they're clearly trained martial artists and not. They're not not not explode. Fight series guys. He's fine. I find you find athletes. He's trying fighters Bob's he's not by the League guys I I was at the at the Douglas Lima fight because that was the same day the same day as the rose Just GonNa draws fight so you guys were all working that fight on builds or duty. I don't know have you watched that fight. Censored sense of humor writing about that fight so the value of the second round right. The second round Bub envy was doing was finding law success on the feet the first round in the only got taken down. He had risk control the entire time. Where even though he was on its back I still gave it to? MVP The first round like Doug Liman literally really couldn't do anything from the top like you try and because MVP's arms are so long that would go to punch and you could just grab his wrist and he was controlling of the Holy Spirit and then the second round. I asked him this. I go what happened. Why did you get off that way? Like consider rolling back. He just stood up went forward and he goes. I was finding so much success on the feet that I just got overconfident in thought I could just stand up while when get knocked down to kind of trying to go back literally really looks like he just tripped and just got was standing up from the sidewalk and then just live right hooks from L.. So he goes. If I just rolled back I could have won that fight. But that's a lot of what it is but he was looking US generally well-meant flights I got knocked out. I don't believe I believe he's on his way to losing decision decision Competitive Decision Competitive. Didn't a lot of people were against using again crossed by Douglas Lane at which he did on his because of his own mistake. Well I don't think I think if he didn't get knocked out there and it was a decision it would have been competitive that's in May may is all about who makes the first mistake. It really. Elliot's that's I'm amazed who fucks up first and that was a dyke. We're all like go. Mediterranean were always telling you get up basically you never get up like that what he did you just just I'm Kinda Kinda shocking. He got up that way. You just don't ever do. That's why that's why the knockouts look so. Incredibly Unique Zoo. Never seen that in. It's kind of high level because at a high level you just never get up off your. But also he got he got his legs kicked up monitoring and then went forward into more. And you got like that instead of their protective but down get back. Handout is like this. I WanNa see that again. I would like to see. MVP Fight Rory Or anyone else from the tournament like this comments or said like I 'cause now I'm sweating belt or Japan right guy. He's a decent journeyman guy guys. WHO's doing I'm not able to? WHO's this guy? He's a decent deal and he's like this isn't this is the guy that we fighting on a no premiums. You'll be like Oh this watches us you know. It's it's not nice grub is he's a he's a talented dude. I want to invite round Donald. And if he won't be Roy than wants to the rematch against Luma because right now. Lorenzo Larkin probably has an X.. Title Shot Against Douglas Lima but like the MVP roar who who has their neiman at Bruce Khorishkov enersen jump up to one seventy Benson Benson Benson verses. MVP sounds like that's not the fun fight on. Cajoled Dylan's seventy saucy. Could Drop Donald Seventy five now. If that was the question a Wisey by you guys environment I give some time. Oh danger was clicks. That's why you got. MVP question actually an interrupt. You Andy Williams not versus Raymond Daniels McDonald's Walter Middleweight. Actually I think he's I think he's walked away. These were but he's he's but he's been very unsuccessful in May so unless they wind kickboxing. Yeah goes one on one in a yeah. He retired from males away. He hasn't fought animation fund in May nineteen. I was first flight own. Never mind I guess. Oh he is giving it a shot for Birmingham fought in Bella tour. You're yet that's I know that he gave me. You didn't tune into watch rent primis versus Tim Wild. I'm Brooke Premise. One by Gogo plot in that do not is he on the main card. Yeah use the opener. Kale right this is probably GonNa be the last question from John. False boss rank your top three years of the decade in. Oh actually has two questions and the second question is tigers. I or Apparently hurt Oh actually question. I've heard balls us well to answer because tigers. I'd looks tired of that are using targeted by crystal on. It's a crystal to test. It's another word for testicle now. Oh yes the Tigers is crystal. That looks like would wanNA nickname my testicles so tigers crystal question because I like like how it looks like wood and you can't really tell us feel it s year Personally or like fight wise. I like to two thousand thirteen. Because that's why I got I had just graduated college. I'm telling you like the store like Rhonda fought with debuted. Read Out Kris Wider B. Anderson that year amps and broke his leg GOP came back. Fought Johny Hendricks so two thousand thirteen stands out. That's my right answer during my master. Yes let not discuss this with this. We've we've spent the entire hard dictate together. Working actually in October was our tenth year anniversary of working primarily fighting so on two thousand thirteen wasn't really good here because it also had to prove without white man as both Wiedeman Anson's Rhonda came on the scene I got I got bad memories for that person. You know who. Yeah no that was probably one of the better use you honestly. I feel like all the strong ears were Kinda early on. Those also to third scene was like last year he tain is like a dominant force because he'd be junior both times. I know two thousand thirteen at Stuck my mind to it was the last strikeforce event. Yeah that's that's another Yeah actually whatever year it was it was when strikeforce was Prior Right which I force sure got bought out by Zephyr Band County right before that era time. Twelve thirteen. Yeah that was a good year because there was also ultra John Jones beach each. Show them right. Yeah Mood Twenty. Two twenty everything after that was downhill and that was also when they had the big event in Toronto. That's also the year ends in front kick tour. And we had the gray maynard frankie the The two matches that was a good year. What year was big debt? Three F C three. I think it's not well. No she doesn't in big two thousand twelve evicted three. I'll find out for victory make department defined was in two thousand thirteen as well. Actually January four hundred thirteen I think for the decade in the three was two thousand twelve and get a four two thousand thirteen so dude hundred thirteen might be my favorite a year. Yes Open theory of us are kind of also two thousand eleven was the first ever foxfire in the first couple of years. boxcar scarred really mattered. Remember the was the second one was the second Foscari the Chicago though so I was filled. Dame's Rashad it was it was loaded on on paper. It kind of kind of being no not entertaining. But they're on pay. I is is last midway when he lost a wide yet and then he dropped down and fought what what Donald candidate one forty eight or did he fight. Eric's I can't remember or story. One of those fights. Yeah so whatever. Two Thousand Twelve two thousand thirteen after that. Actually that was kind of Iowa I think about it a lot of like it was kind of a golden age. Not Between Two thousand nine in you know basically from like one hundred to one one of whatever the Anderson fewer of the grades like Fatos still doing things. The Andrew Young John Jones was had not gone to shenanigans yet he was that was two thousand eleven though that was John Jones saving people on the streets at Paterson New Jersey App Plate and watching fights from Japan as she still had two thousand eleven Jones that I think it's like the two thousand seven. Was that pride run through that. Show them one to five yet. That was still vat for me was the greatest year for single fighter until John Jones Judas eleven and be deep baiter shogun rampage in. But you know on for all twelve months like those students like Noah's mass yet. No no yeah I agree. I agree that was. That was the best the best. And here's winning like dollar. He'd tapped crush homage. Shogun tapped baiter tax rampage. In the left Machida IPE. He sexually my last question because it's We've we've it's been our but I wanted to ask what's your favorite event of law. Second 162 was cool. That was a wineman because that had a lot of fights on that guard frank fought Charles Oliveira Tin candidate against Haji Gracie One fifty seven was fun that was Rhonda Karma Carnage for that also had like Machida Ando and they had on one is a Mac Max macro Against I guess from Udeze Thousand One I liked that boxcar was using Fox. Seven San Jose with which is Bannon Gilbert at a loss stoppages because we left because it was a west coast Oh show in the summer so Galley Arena Alec Nine. PM Get one day and then people booed Benson Henderson during his well he proposal he proposed to his girl so when he just won a very controversial decision any closes girl in his opponents hometown of home town area as kind of Mama the UC one eighty nine a lot of people. That are the main card. Ever that had conner Mendez because it had to fly knees Gunnar Nelson tapping the the greatest fighter ever is the comb event conner Mendez because that premium wasn't that great outside of the map around two means fight one floors good That was a connor Aldo. Wiedeman rob sold holloway Stevens Romero Genre Jewel vibes good. That was stacked doc. I energy card. I'd say once sixty for me just because I was like ten feet away from Madison Nafta. That was crazy to see. We've got a couple votes for one eighty nine but yes all right and I think that's it for today. We got head over to the one real quick. What do you think is the knockout of the year this year? No I mean for the decade. Because like if you think about it we got Anderson Front kick got Hollywood again. Franchi Mazar does five second knockout. We got terry getting crushed by Barboza Holly Rhonda onto the deck. And I think it's one with that and the Anderson Percents. It's one of those I I don't think Donald's over cabinet I count every factor Kaunda upset factor. Innocent was a favor. Favor are ready a pretty heavy senior going next door. That's why I don't. That's why it isn't surpass to me. Just because it was expected night expected like that but the victory was expected. Go but Hollywood is the because that that that knockout still to me changed the world changed intimate change pop culture change. Change a lot of things Ed Francis and over it. That's all our does. Our is the newsroom demeaning connor knockout although did not name pop culture and they. They did it for sure did at that. I'm going to disagree with you if I sure did. I don't think it did as much Ronda. Losing nope remember. Remember the debate. We I will say just in terms of like for It was Ronald Ronda was more pop famous at that time in the in the sense that when we got into a taxi when we got back from Australia after that knockout it was all over the radio pop radio kiss. FM or something ran like the even. The driver was like asking us about it. Those are bringing last week tonight. Remember last night they were talking about just new shows like the economy was a giant like he's a celebrity has giant sports thing like the run. The knockout was in and it didn't change everything basically tired. After that you had five. She was done then you had you know she wanted to. WWE late change so many things. What about in terms of just crazy Nakasone Korean Zombie if you just knock independent what they are right then? Yeah Guy. You're handle and has been in. School doesn't nine ten seniors right. Yeah Yeah that was the other vote. We were getting one hundred and one eighty nine where where the two one hundred all right all right. Well I think that's a side this time we gotta go to Donald Workout. Say What is a Fan Hyun a thing like any user to forty four. No one worked doubt just as the whole time so They're trying this new thing so we have to run to that so stay on Youtube Channel. And we'll get those aset or you can go hang on twitter instagram instagram. We've got all kinds of phone. Contact these have UC to forty five timelines. So watch all three of those and then were done. Watch those videos But for Jose that's Casey that's esther route this test to go talk to that way. crystal crystals.

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Steelers Preview: How the Steelers get their first win vs. the Seahawks in Week 2

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Steelers Preview: How the Steelers get their first win vs. the Seahawks in Week 2

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The seahawks travel across the country for a one o'clock kick-off eastern standard time and we have a lot to talk about. I I bring in Brian. Anthony Davis Bryant has gone this evening. It Really Good Jeff. I have one thing to say I am not ready for prime time either. Well not many are Dave. How about you? I've never been ready for prime time all right. Let's let's talk about this. Upcoming game because it's in this on the standard is a standard Wednesday night last night. If you haven't haven't check that out go back. Take a listen I didn't WANNA spend a Lotta time on last week. You know I mean we had the post game show myself and Lance has and Brian and Tony did a great job at the hangover and then the stat geeks still touched on it. All this stuff has taken place. I feel like let's just leave last week and last last week let's focus on that what we're supposed to this show and that's preview the upcoming match up and said before we get into anything specific. Dave wanted to start with something. That really wasn't report last week but is is important this week at nats injuries. I WanNa know what's the latest injury report now. We don't have the final injury report. That'll be Friday this record on Thursdays today's Dave why don't you give us a quick rundown of the steelers injury list and then if there's any notable names from the seahawks that are banged up as well all right so so you went to steelers injury list because because I know last week you were more worried about me and my injury. If I was going to be able to come true or not hold on hold on I want to talk about the kick. We will talk about the kick around the world. We haven't been on since I do have a Brian and I have to admit something but we'll do that later day go. I just can't believe how long it's been since this show just think of everything that's happened since the last preview my goodness. It seems it seems like I was just talking to you guys but man. There's it's just been all kinds of crazy steelers stuff but let's talk injuries. Today was yesterday was rough when you looked and you saw ten players on the injury report now one of which was Ben Rothlisberger not practicing on Wednesday as usual. I'll no I'm not I'M NOT GONNA get start holding a a holiday. Now's your chance you wrote this article for the site today. If you wanted to have your get off my lawn moment about the players getting a day off like now's your chance okay well. I was Gonna say people could just check out the article if they wanted to. It's it's it's there on behind the curtain dot com my thing is I understand Veterans Wednesdays off you know given the vets day off every once in a while an Obama basically gets every Wednesday off so he only practices on Thursday and Friday right and that's it Saturday's just a walk through when when when the coach comes out and twice in his post game press conference says we weren't ready for prime sometime he saying we're not ready and if you're not ready part of the reason you're not ready is because all these all these players. You're not having them practice so much I understand especially the season goes on yeah. Give these guys days off really help them to get recovered. Give them extra time before they have to come back and play again. You know especially if you're giving them off Wednesday so that way you play on a Sunday. You don't have to really come out and practice. 'til Thursday but this is week two after you just lost by thirty thirty points because you weren't ready to handle the New England patriots. I mean if there's ever a time to say that you need to be out there. It's now you know who you know who didn't take the day off yesterday. Tom Brady and that's after they won by thirty points and they're already favored by nineteen going into this week against what should be as completely inferior opponent which which is kind of a game that they have a tendency to sometimes struggle with in Miami but still he's not taken time off because he knows the need to prepare. That's just all I wanted to bring up. Is this the time that we really need to give guys time off. So there's my rant. There's my get off my lawn. If you really want to go in check out that article some really great discussion in the comments author throw throw some stuff in there. Let's get back to the injury so on Brian gaining to save save an old man Shakes Vista Cloud you so my little wink yeah you know what Dave I get it but there's there's two things you can count on when the steelers lose it's Ben Roethlisberger saying the quarterbacks got to play better and I'm the quarterback Blah Blah Blah. We hear that all the time and Mike Mike Tomlin sings something we weren't ready for these guys we we weren't prepared and so that's just kind of their go to answer to pull out because they're never give you anything really good here and they're gonNA give that out to you. Look we've seen these days off work before for. I remember when Choi Paula Malai was listed because of age but because of old bones or something a couple of years ago and it was it was kind of funny but when they're when they're winning it's fine but right now it's just the fact they were embarrassed because they they just were were not up to snuff that is their Kryptonite that team and we're GonNa talk about this more of the preview but I don't really think that comes into play but I get what you're saying my question only is this dave if the steelers would have played better than what they did not saying that they win the game but they played better her. Would you still have the same gripe what I still have the same gripe yeah not to this degree. My Gripe is it's such a delicate balance. I'm not because as we to. He says yeah me too is it because of the performance last week or is it because there's week two or is it instead Yada together if they'd have come out and they would have thirty point victory and they're going then what honestly would have worried hey. Are you taking things too lightly. Take for granted. I know but I mean it. It's not even just this week. It's all I mean he took every third day off in through crew training camp and the preseason which is just what they do every time a starter mrs practice it throws everything off. It's just how it is so I know some people don't like it. I'm not saying that he has to practice every practice. I'm really not and it's not that he's not out there. It's not that he's not in the film room. It's not that he's not on the field field going out with stuff but some of the biggest complaints were you. Don't have the chemistry with your receivers yet. I'm not saying needs to play more in the preseason. He threw two more passes the what Tom Brady did in the preseason. Some people try to say one but they forget Ben threw a pass on a two point conversion. That doesn't count the stat line so I'm not even saying that that's the case but it's just we just take it for granted all Benz pricing a Wednesday Benzon pricing on Wednesday. Maybe there's a kid. Maybe there's going to be a time where they need the extra work and who's to say he didn't get the extra work on the side with the receivers even though he wasn't out there in pads doing other things so it's really hard to judge. Just can be frustrating that it's just taken for granted that it doesn't matter that we weren't prepared. Let's we're not GONNA do anything different in our preparation well to me. If you ask me it comes down onto like for instance when you talk about a quarterback and that's this is the two names you brought a brady and Dan when it comes to the throwing mechanics and some of the played baseball -aseball whole life was a catcher had to take care arm a lot everyone throws a ball differently and ben his head. You know you could see as his career progresses. His throwing motion is not say as natural as Brady's in changing your throwing motion is not something you want to have to do at the professional level. I think that it's more for his arm than anything else. They just don't want. They just want to save him save. His arm. Arm is still fresh for games and later in the season because because he's talked about that before he's talked about how he doesn't throw in the Aussies that much I think breeds is more of a natural thrower can handle that workload in. It's not like any team is is doing a lot of work on Wednesdays anyways but I think that's what has more to do with it and say in his knees or anything like that. There's people in the live chat suggests it's the only weekday what the heck all preseason off and they throw a lot of footballs and training camp in so you WanNa make sure that the his his Armstrong WanNa make sure it's durable can withstand the rigors of a sixteen game season so that's my balance. I gotta get back to these injuries to two players. I did not practice yesterday or today and that is Joe Haden while technically it's three Roosevelt next. We know he's not going to be playing this week and maybe for a couple of weeks. A coach Tomlin brought that up on Tuesday his press conference. He's got an injury that could keep him out. You know P- I guess several weeks of the best way to say but Joe Haden and and Marquees pouncey neither one of them have practiced this week everyone that was limited on Wednesday came back as full participants on Thursday. Stay James Connor Zach banner were limited due to illness so that was something that you hope that they could come back from which they did T. J. Watt was back out there full full. We'll go so as Juju Smith Schuster Sean Davis was limited on on Wednesday and full on Thursday. That's positive and throw edmonds was another one who was limited yesterday but was full so he had likely I saw that there was a question was was that from the game or what did he actually. Maybe I I tell you what it is. What am I major lead but the the the most notable player for the seahawks is Tyler Lockett who is arguably their best receiver? He did not practice yesterday. He was limited today so he is progressing in the right direction but we'll see if that's good enough to to get on the field on Sunday okay guys. Let's talk about the two players that were held out of practice this on Thursday. That's Markey's pouncey. That's Joe Hayden Brian. I WanNa ask you first. Which of those two let's assume and I don't think this is a safe assumption any stretch of the imagination but let's say both I players are not going to play this Sunday at Heinz field which one concerns you more murky pouncey? He is the anchor of that line. I mean I comfortable with. BJ Phoenix coming in but pouncey is the guy that makes things happen he is Ben's main protector as far as I'm concerned you know I I would much rather have him coming out there now. I'M GONNA get slayed for this plane for this. Look I'm fine at this point with Artie Burns earns coming into fiesta come in as a third guy I think pouncey is there's just more of an upside with bouncy. There would be debuting. I think I agree with Brian. I think I mean nothing against. BJ Finney I actually I say that I think Finney plays better guard then. He does it center. Even though he was a senator in college he did a fantastic job filling in for David decastro couple of games last year when he was out with a hand injury but when he comes at center it's not quite the same now I know a lot of people gave them a hard time over the snap or the lack thereof came from it but that's wasn't that his first play in there. I'm pretty sure and I mean he turned around and said like didn't you say to you saw him hold up his finger so that was I mean that that's going to happen sometime that that's that's not that you know it's no different than the than the tackle rocking back so but I I think the biggest thing that I feel that might not be as good centers either has guard is he's having to go in for county so he's he's the guy that makes all the calls calls all the blocking assignments online. People don't realize that that it's the center calling out anything. That's going on with the blocking so that's that's Kinda like income kind of like losing your guy with the green dot on defense which I guess the steelers don't are GonNa vary that week to week anyway but it's the guy that's making your blocking. Getting calls is going to be out so but the steelers are pretty deeply offensive line so that's true very versatile group in if any does to get the start then Brian's awesome br. BJ Finney Pants will only gain in the lore of BTS's steelers Radio Youtube you too magic. You know what I might have to wear them for the game this week because I think the luck I've never actually worn them for for an actual game so maybe it's going to be the pants. I've never been thankful to Davis a field goal in my life that you have to watch. Watch the game with you all right. Let's get things started with the upcoming freeview. I want to know Roy quick because to me. I don't know a lot about the seahawks. I really don't we interviewed a brandon Scholtz last night from deal goals. He's there podcasting producer. He did a tremendous job at he's talking about is it. Is it a lance after the show. I didn't know any of these names. He's talking about 'cause it's not only the NFC's the NFC west. I mean it's the furthest away from the East Coast as possible so for me. It was one of those situations where I mean I know Tyler Lockett and I know Russell Wilson some of the players remaining on that defense but guys the steelers. What did the steelers need to do on Sunday outside of the Generic Eric Score more points answer? What do they need to do special on Sunday? They didn't do last week to make sure that they don't fall to Owen to that. They get one wanted to get to one on one and get right table. Start with you thank you. It's very simple something that I expected them to do this. Past Week that I I thought wasn't even going to be a factor and that's why I thought they could very well win. The game that they completely failed to do and that is controlled line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball the offense did not control the line of scrimmage. The defense did not control scrimmage. They've got to control the line of scrimmage. They've gotta get after it. Fire off. The big is big guys got a role. That's what they gotta do it now on both sides so they can control that line of scrimmage if they're if they're costly possibly giving the running backs two yards of push and then they can fall forward for two more yards. Even if there's no hole there you go then you give them a whole and you're talking about seven yards a carry but if you're getting pushed back yard then you're in trouble so you gotTa Control Line. What about you Brian? What what are the steelers need to Sunday? I really WANNA see James Connor. Get a lot of Carey's early and often start controlling things you opening up starting with the run to open up the pass when we get to the pass I'd like to see well. I'd like to see Dante moncrieff shackled before before player warm ups and so or maybe third or I might be illegal so so but maybe some stick them maybe he'd go back to the good old days of the seventies and some stick him but you know I'd like to see more. I'm agreeing the live chat on this more James Washington to help open up for Juju. I really think he's that dynamic playmaker. I think the ONTA- Johnson is going to be a dynamic playmaker. So those are the three core guys I wanna see go ahead mix in mixed in a guy like a moncrieff and don't let Switzer you'll leave your team in in targets. I mean sure he caught him but he's yards. Were it was like watching Jerome Bettis late in his career three touchdowns one one yard rushing. That's basically he's catching six balls but he has what seven yards receiving or something like that. I mean it was just ridiculous but on the offensive side of the ball that's what I think they need to do to control and then on the defense you know you just have to shadow Russell Wilson make sure that he doesn't and beat you all over the field with his legs and be ready for when he throws the ball. somebody mentioned watch lock it. I really want them to watch a decay metcalf. He's been overshadowed a little bit since he dropped down to the second round but I saw him on that touchdown reception the other day and I thought he looked magnificent. He's the got you really need to keep an eye on okay for me. I mean obviously Tomba two dollars. The tip jars had put this up there. He says the actually score points in the touchdown zone would would be a key for the steelers that would be a good key and I it's. It's GONNA be offensively. I think everything that you guys said is one hundred percent agreeable not not discreet all I want them to be aggressive. I when I watched the steelers patriots game from last week. Everything felt really safe. It felt really eh really safe. The play calling was safe. Ben's decision making was safe and I get it. You don't WanNa make the costly turnover but at the same time you're you're going to have to be aggressive. You're going to have to try and Seattle's GonNa do with New England did New England kept seven defenders in the box of us the entire higher game and was fine with just playing unless they went five wide in which case a-changing sub packages but they were very aggressive on the line of scrimmage dare the steelers to take shots and they ages did it in and what they did except for the one James Washington they misfired so wanted to be aggressive in on the on defense. The Defensive Front has is to win this match up because what we say last week. This is an offensive line they can exploit. This is an offense of wine. That's missing their center. This is an office of line. They had all these trades. They only had one sack and they barely touch brady the entire game so I thought. TJ wanted well especially because he was double teamed. Every single single play buddy free did not play well. He did get a sack in yes whoop de do he was stonewalled miss every single. Oh pass rush attempt so for me. Those are the two things be aggressive on offense and lastly they have to get after the quarterback with their front. They can't have to rely on the blitz all the time because Russell Wilson. If you blitz in he escapes the pressure you are going to get burned down the field in a very very the big way so it's GonNa be interesting to see go ahead. Dave I WANNA ask you a question. Was something that you said Jeff was at when's the last time the steelers were really aggressive in in week. 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That's code SB nation only draft kings minimum five dollar deposit required deposit bonus requires a twenty five times playthrough eligibility ability restrictions apply see drafting dot com for details in week one in terms of what playcalling and yeah I'll tell you the the last time I can try the game against the Cleveland Browns when they were of big at halftime and they if they went from they went polar opposites they went from super aggressive. They're just throwing the ball downfield. They're pushing the pace lady on bells breaking off runs and then all of a sudden in the second half they just pulled their foot off the gas pedal and then the browns came back. They ended up winning became still Brian. What are you going to say that twenty sixteen in Washington on opening opening Monday night football? I thought they really look dynamic that night and I think when you had talked about aggressiveness in play calling an offensive look at what the Patriots did did. That's week one aggressiveness. They earn a gadget play. You know cattleman throws it back James White to me. That's aggressive. It doesn't always work but at least you're being aggressive aggressive. They're taking their shots on the field. The steelers offense is still built around having the deep ball available in if Moncrieff is not that guy then you need to play James Washington more although that Lance and I both agree that we think that the way that they deployed Washington this past week was really really dumb. You can't have him just running. Go routes outs. He's a he's a very versatile wide receiver in terms of thinking back to the preseason all those in the post droughts that he caught he was does deep in cuts. What's he can make those plays too? They have to trust to make those plays or should I say Ben. Rothlisberger needs to trust him to make those plays so I don't I want to get too far ahead of ourselves in terms of our preview before we get to Dave Stack EEK statements. Dave you have a stack for US tonight. Oh I always have have to find something for Stat Geek except the problem is I all my good numbers tweet up between my show on Tuesday and just texting jeff random stuff enough. I text them all these things. I'm like wait a second. I got nothing left IPAD GEIC so after Brian Brian Okay Hey hey Brian Dan. I'll ask Brian because this is. We're going to eventually get to a scenario of which is kind of fun that Brian Likes to do of that was the game wear member. We'll we'll bring up. Something and we'll be like Oh yeah. That was the game where where in some of these things I was looking up. It may be triggered some digs in my mind that I want to see if we if you guys remember the same thing hey hey brian what's the record of the NFC west at Heinz field with Mike. Tomlin is the coach aw crap okay so it's been six games. They've played. They've played six. NFC West teams since Mike Tomlin took over over at home okay well. I can tell you right away that you know I'm probably going to go ahead and say six six and on this because I cannot remember I lost at home winner winner chicken dinner there Bryan Hi Nancy Davis. They're six L. Gay of course two of them. Two of those wins came against the Seattle seahawks. Do you know do you remember both of those games against Seattle something significant about both those games one was like thirty one. Nothing worth I mean was a blow blow off. You know what I believe. They were the second game of the season or the the home opener times possibly one time they were and I have that written down here the time that they were. I'm pretty sure that one was in two thousand and eleven yes. You're correct so the one in two thousand there's one that one yes two thousand eleven twenty four to nothing and the one in two thousand seven that was week three and that would be like thirty one nothing well. It was twenty one to nothing nothing. Well one was twenty four twenty one. Nothing wow so the thing that's crazy is the Seattle seahawks have never scored a point at Heinz field. Wow Yeah when Jeff talked about Brandon was Schultz. I can't name yes. Yes who came on their show last played. I actually did WANNA brandon shows within this week he was blown away by that stat he could believe that they've never skirted Heinz field so and I brought that up Tuesday night but with that I found that the steelers are six under my Tomlin against the NFC west they are right what you hope team would be they win their home games and they split their away games so they're they're six and three and three on the road now they've won three they've one on the road against the NFC West three times and I was wondering if you guys remembered those games because two of them were against against the against the Saint Louis Rams yeah they won the West Coast. It was in Saint Louis the first one of them okay go ahead. I was GONNA say the the the most recent one was two thousand fifteen and that was feel call on fire very good feel caught on fire. The steelers went to six and what was the other significant thing from that game hasn't been Rosberg got hurt and might be finished the game. They say you guys. You guys remember so that was the game at Jeff loves this too so that's really significant about the other one because it was right right before Christmas in two thousand seven. That's something really significant happened there Jeff. Do you know that you're taking my question. Okay well. We work continue. Something significant before Christmas happened basically a Thursday night game Thursday night game basically ended Willie Parker's career. He broke his leg really. I didn't have that for that game. I had something else about game. They romped they destroyed the rams that at night on twenty four but yeah late in the game too and it was it was the typical use of the running backs until builder wheels fall off and he he just got destroyed broke his leg and that was it really I mean he came back and played in the super bowl year but he wasn't never say but that that game also gave us the first and only touchdown by. I'm going to say I'M GONNA say famous Ms Stihler the only ever had one career touchdown and it was the last touchdown of that game one career touchdown. He's a famous deal MS stihler. You had one touchdown Brian Cheetan. No no no. That's the reason he only had one touchdown because it was a defensive player. Casey Hampton scored a defensive touchdown touchdown although it was he was legendary he he would've had twenty touchdowns if he could catch I Taylor I would be Taylor's. Only down of his career was in that game against Saint Louis. You know what I almost wear that Jersey tonight to that would have been good good but the the other one that steelers had on the road against the West that was in Arizona in two thousand eleven as well but I was looking back at some of the great stats that the steelers have at home against the NFC West not only do they are they six at the closest game the closest game him out of all of them was twelve points. They went by twelve points or more in all six games. That closest game was in two thousand fifteen against. That's the Arizona Cardinals where they won twenty five to thirteen. That was the game at that's not breaking doc. Landry Jones got them to win right. That was the comeback second-half by Landry Jones Martavis Bryant Davis who came in for an injured my leg hurts vic yes started because that because vic was still playing because of the field caught on fire and then got hurt against Bush and Vic was starting and Landry Jones came in and the steelers were losing halftime and Landry Jones came in and lead them back to a twelve the point victory so that's when Landry Jones for the flannel into the US chuck a press conference afterwards Oh shucks. I'm just glad to be Edward. Flannel like who is Guy Yeah you David is that all your I mean the questions I will say that out of the six Ah six games against the NFC west Heinz field three were shutouts to against Seattle and I can't find what the other one is and if it wants to make anyone feel any better her when the steelers the steelers generally start home and away or away at home they don't play either the first two games on the road or I two at home they're they split them and in Games where the steelers go on the road and lose and come back home seinfield under the under Mike Tomlin they are three of those games now. If you remember the two thousand eleven game I believe that was the same year they opened up the season and Mt Bank stadium and got their doors blown off. I have written here and it was extremely embarrassing. It was a very similar feeling to what the fan base is feeling right now. After the Patriots flew the steelers doors off go ahead Brian. What was the record that that year the two thousand seventeen with their final record do you know are you asking or the rebound and they regarded that you brought this up on your show Brian the loss to the eagles where they I think we're held to three points as well where Ben was sacked? I don't know how many times and they come back from these losses. A Lotta Times have really good season so Did you guys Dave. You probably listen to the show garnered with Brian. Did you listen to the standard last night and Brian Right and I are interview with Brandon. I'm not a team player Jeff. I know that you'd rather listen to the idiots in Pittsburgh so anyways here. There is a staff that he said that in the Russell Wilson era he is only one. I think one game in the month of September on the road in the month of September. It's incredible how slow starts they have tra- traveling to the east coast bad bad football team if he's he did win they had was in the two thousand thirteen season when they won the Super Bowl. So not you WanNa talk about the stats coming at you all over the place they're saying I'm good things for the steelers we got A. I'm not sure that I'm buying into all that but still it'll be interesting so okay good staticky Davis those good stuff Let's talk about this upcoming a little bit closer Let's talk about some X. Factors were talking about a guy that we think can be offense and defense in someone that could actually league changed the complexion of the game in one way or another Brian will serve with you. Who is your x factor or factors plural for this upcoming week the game so this week with Vance McDonald we saw what he being absent last week until the fourth quarter really did did you know if you go ahead and put him in the game plan and work work that angle as well? You know oh he's going to be more effective than you. Dinka dunks to Ryan Switzer and drop drop balls. Don't they moncrieff so I WANNA see number eighty nine nine get out there. Let's see the animal go wild obey Dave going with what could have been the x factor last week and that is one Sean Davis US coming back and playing and seeing if the problems that the steelers had on defense. It's going to be tough because no one is New England so you're not GonNa get the pure measuring stick from last week to this week but if you can if he comes back and shares that defense up I personally thought he might have been the a guy that called the place would get green dots that they made a big deal of over the about this week. TJ Watch the one that was calling the place. I thank Sean Davis might have even been that player because he's there that can do it. I think getting him back is going to be a key factor with what he can do if he can show up that secondary for the steelers. I'M GONNA go generic here. I'm going to go with a player Brian mentioned earlier and that is James Connor and they have to get him going doing early. I don't think they need to run. run run run run but they need to get him in situations with the offensive line feels that they have played. It's working. If you watch the steelers when they run the ball well will they typically have one or two plays in there's typically David decastro pulling out front or pounds he's playing him pulling out in front because they're athletic and they lead the way a they just keep running those plays until they can stop it and they need to find with that play as early. Get James Connor going in then you know see if they can. That's I still think is Ben. Rothlisberger gets older. The reliance on him needs to back off a little bit and that's why I would love to see them be. You're more of a run oriented football team but that's just not the way that the NFL is trending right now so but I would say James Connor would be my ex factor now guys. If there's one player let let's talk about Russell Wilson in particular because it's too we know the best if you're on the defensive coordinator Keith Butler in your figuring out a way to defend against it's a mobile quarterback but yet a quarterback that's not like like rg three you've he was before he got injured where he was typically a runner and didn't throw the balls ause well. Russell Wilson is a very good throw the football Brian if you're defending him. How Are you coaching this defense up to take care of that job okay? I've already used ether so I can't use. I use that anymore so let's just go ahead with these shadow the guy with who would you do. Would you spy him. I'm going with Baron or Bush idea. I mean that's I'm thinking of a fast guy in the middle that could go ahead and shadow him in and I m you're not going to get the the stats out of these guys. We're looking at stats. We're looking to get to your we all keep this guy at bay and I'd love to see a speed matching up with speed with one of these guys especially a seeing that we've seen sideline the sideline from Bush in limited time so maybe that's a that's a good way to go gave leaving. I like Brian's idea. that you know baby spy with with someone like a Devon Bush you're outside guys contain you but depre- is not gonna be able to just run the Ark and get and get taken out of play because if that's the case then Wilson's going to be able to just duck right up under go if if if the outside linebackers are going to rush in that manner that they do especially depre- then you have to spy because someone's going to have to be either for when he takes off so the question is do you WanNa have your have one of your middle linebackers. Sorry inside linebackers doing Matt Job or do you want to change the way the outside linebackers rush in order to contain. I think you definitely have to spy Russell Wilson. I wouldn't be shocked if they would even put someone Mike Cameron Sautin or Mike Helton with that job someone that is more of a defensive tackle linebacker someone they can keep up with Wilson It's GONNA be interesting. He is really the he's their Straw. That's hers drink. He's on their dangerous football team. I don't care what they look like last week against Cincinnati team in Seattle early in the season this is not going to be an easy game by any stretch of the imagination now. Let's let's talk about fantasy football for those that pay attention to Arfan Little League and I'm talking about US three two of the three finished in the top op three this week. One of US did not mention any names Brian anyways he's looking day was Victoria. He finished first in the league last week. I finished in second. You better thank your lucky stars. Larry Fitzgerald started catching fire at the end of that game going to overtime but still when you're looking at this is game from a daily fantasy football draft kings as vandal whichever service you use who are some players. I WanNa know who you WANNA start. Who You you WANNA bench in? Who's that one player? No one's talking about the year could take a flyer on his ace money well Brian. You are the loser week whatsoever radio. Hey Look Tom. Tom Petty said even the losers get lucky. Sometimes I add Lamar Jackson. I was like yes and then I just took out Sammy Watkins. I figured I I recall in here kill. Yes hurt Sammy Watkins. The rest is misery but with that being said Russell Wilson's the Guy Hi that I'm looking to start this week against the steelers the I mean I I really think that in this game he'll put up some magnificent numbers so I wouldn't say he's starting for the steelers Game Russell Wilson for the steelers game years starting a please do. That's all I'm going to say I hope review. Hey I've I've seen this movie. We're GONNA take over Brian like you guys want to jump over me Ryan. You have to send the screen shot to prove that you were playing in your fantasy league so you've gotta gotTa make sure he's into your lineup now. It comes down to the dollars if I if I like something else so go with something else but if you don't track now aw we're talking about the whole league I get it but hold on so you really like him in this matchup yeah. Do you think he's GonNa be playing. Catch up and throw a bunch sure. Do you think that he's just going to wait to see defense on fire. You know what I I remember the game just to four years ago and he they in what they scored about thirty one points on the steelers thirty nine and he was going crazy to Doug Baldwin and he just he he had an amazing game Baldwin's not there yet but you have have some talent on that team and Russell is a fantastic talent so yeah I would start Russell Wilson Awesome this week and have no problem you know t mobile has always been shaking up the industry like right now. They're gonNa let you you try. 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When you switch to get full coverage Yikes okay? It doesn't doesn't mean I'm going to. I'm sorry I just the other sometimes when somebody says something crazy we want to jump over them and only balls and things like that so that's why China here's the big difference between all started in my daily Fantasy League and saying you can nail a fifty five yard field goal. There's a huge difference. That's why I wasn't going to back off for down. WHO WOULD I start? I think Brian already hit it. I thought START DANCE MCDONALD I I met earlier on with what he was saying. I say let's let's start Vance McDonald. There's no way the steelers going to wait until inside of two minutes left in the game before they target him again. Nano part of that was the Patriots specifically. We're trying to take him away. They did a good job with their match up there but I think convent's is going to need to come out and and the steelers are going to establish something with with the Titan with the middle of the field and I think could be a good way. I think you're right Dave. I think that after watching the seahawks let Andy Dalton have a career year against them in Seattle last week. I'll take it number seven. It's Ben Rothlisberger at home is not Ben Rothlisberger on the road. He didn't play well last week. If you follow this team closely asli he typically bounces back. I'M GONNA put number seven as my quarterback I can take as many screen shots as he wants. I'll probably never seven as my quarterback gagged because when he's at home he's pretty much a safe bet to get you a couple of touches and so I think that he will be looking at advance. Donald okay so let's talk about who you're gonNA bench edge Brian. I'm sure you're benching Ben Rothlisberger half the steelers at this point so I don't have a problem with every I'm just looking at it from from the steelers every week and we're open team and so I'm like going against the defensive. I'm you've actually feeling good about this and you know I've got a fantasy role. I don't care if I lose in fantasy and as long as the steelers win so so I'm not going to root for one of my guys that I put in against the steelers. I'm just like going. It's like playing the stock market boys so here's the thing so so if we're going to go ahead in bench somebody this week. I'm thinking that you know I know I'm not allowed to go ahead and say Ryan's AH. I know you're not going to go ahead and let me do that. I'm actually GonNa Bench James Washington this week and the reason being is as much much as I think that they should go to him. I don't think they're going to. I just don't think that they're putting the stock in him that we are so I mean she's just my opinion but I really don't think that so if I have to. I think they're going to have a great great week all the way around but I'm looking James Washington to just not get the targets Dave. I'm benching Dante moncrieff increase out of principle. I agree with that. I because I don't want them to throw him the ball because you know give him. Why is it that that when somebody's struggling the steelers seem like they go out of their way to throw the ball to him? I seem to remember after someone else with mangled the hands. What do what do they do that like the first play in the playoffs? They try to go deep to them. You know things like that so they want to go out of their way to to throw it to the guy. That might be struggling. You know what it when you do that you're leaving yourself and second if you do that on first down you're leaving yourself with second. Dan and do you really want to do that. You really want to take one play like that and do that. I still think they'll look to give him the ball but I don't think he should have anywhere close to ten targets like he did the last last game and like I said he had seven yards on ten targets. I mean point seven yards target. No you know what come out ball out this week and then I'll put you back in the lineup your benched out of principle last week the steelers tried to back system and they played a lot of Jalen. Samuels and it just didn't didn't work and so for me that tells me that if you know the predictability of the steelers they're gonNA ride James Connor this week. I think a lot meaning. They're not gonNA play. Hey Jay Lynn. Samuels is much I would say don't play Jalen Samuels in this match up. You could start James Connor but I wouldn't. I wouldn't play Jalen Simmons. I think the only way he sees time is in spot duty or gadget plays or things like that or if something were to happen to connor so I would say stay away from Saint Louis Okay here. Let's let's take a break from fantasy football and let's have told Dave Avenue this Brian the USA bigger comment real quick. I mean everybody's doing the washing over moncrieff. That was a fantasy football segment and that's not that was just a comment. What I think is going to happen but I agree? That Washington is the guy and that's who I want to see. I said at the beginning of the show yes he did to you. Check the tape all right so last Friday after this show we went to a local field and Dave I give him credit eh Keita's Today for putting you know putting up three and put up or shut up as they always say he showed up and we put a tee in the ground and he taped up forty five yards hurt in he missed all three and then he tried a fourth. It was unofficial but he missed that one too. I do have to say though we've lost connection. I was going to end the show anyway. The connection ended when we were ending the show. No matter what it is the kick heard round the world and I do have to say that we then walked up ten ten yards to thirty five yarder in Dave nailed it it was in the middle and I you know I was so proud of them. In fact I wanted to see him I I. I didn't want to mock him. I wanted to see him drill one but when he moved up to thirty five he just cracked it it was it was was money in the bank is a golf terms dead nuts right in the middle and so for that I had to give Dave props because he said you'd better tell everyone on the show. Then I made that thirty five yard or he made that thirty five yarder said big props today for for putting up with our shenanigans dig Bob's Brian for wearing really really tight pants. It Has Mike Mitchell Jersey. I no problem making a fool out of myself in my wedding for goodness sake. Here's here's the Kevin Kevin writes. Let's try forty five yarder Jeff's not saying he can kickoff Geico forty-five Jeff knows that he can't kick a forty five yarder David because he said he could make a fifty five yard field goal. I'm not saying that I I know that I can't make it. If you want me to myself I can kick off a T. That's fine but I'm not gonNA make it so group group so with that said I think it's time before we answer some questions and the show to get to our prediction segment. I gave my prediction last night on the standards of standard. I will say what that is again but I'm curious what you guys thank Dave for the degenerate gamblers gambler's out there is has the line change from yesterday or earlier in the week and if so what are the numbers it changed from the initial spread God when when an article came out with that on Tuesday but if you're following along on the if you haven't had a chance to you guys should check it out on the site the bt not again bookie articles and what it is is kind of like a an informative piece on a little little bit piece of of betting. Here's we go and then I pick ten games and people vote and were we're betting fake money on these games and then we're GonNa see what we can do and of course last week. Everyone picked the steelers which because I'm like Duh you might not want to pick your team but therefore we lost that one but we won the other two that we got so well granted that was the one that had the most money so therefore we were down twenty five dollars for the week but at least we came to the other ones but but it in that article so this was the this was what we had outlined and that was that the steelers are four point favorites at home although the because of the betting has been on Seattle fifty six percent to forty four percent and the current over under is forty seven points so what was the spread again four. Oh One K. steel favored by four all right Brian. What are your thoughts on the Game Eh prediction? I think the steelers are going to win. I really think they avenged that loss. Let's go ahead and give them a score. Uh of we're going to go twenty nine to twenty one with the steelers victory and when now this is the part of the show were jeff talks about the crazy number that I just threw out but if we can go back to last week when I picked thirty three for the Patriots I think I was correct and then has not I've been brought up so I just WanNa bring that up thirty three. I was rolling on the twenty nine for the steelers but thirty three so book that twenty nine my friends since it's going to happen I wanted to tell you why say this stuff because my father who is on all sorts of boards all season. He's Don a lot of twenty nine boards and it's basically yeah you get a team. If that team has twenty nine you win the money exactly yeah. It has between twenty nine so when I see numbers like twenty nine it's just such an odd number and I I always think of my dad. Someone's hitting that at his bar this too so okay Dave. What are you thinking about this game? Yeah I've I've done. I've done twenty nine leagues before Oh yeah I mean we did it where you were assigned the same we had sixteen people you had never teams one from an NFC and they were your teams all season and if nobody wins it rolls over weak the weak and it stacks up pretty cool yeah. It's really cool it really is we just did a dollar per team per week two bucks. That's pretty cool. What am I doing unpredictable game right? Okay I do think I do think the steelers bounced back and come out with a better performance I think on both sides of the ball that they do and I'm I'm GonNa go this week. I'm going to go steelers twenty seven twenty so they're going to cover cover and unfortunately I think that puts me right on the over under doesn't it because I said it was forty-seven I'll change it to twenty eight to twenty so then that way. I'll say I'll take the over well. The early line was forty six and a half okay. You went with ad then yeah. You'd be fine I said last night I think the steelers do rebound. I think they win. This football a ballgame. I predicted the score of twenty seven to seventeen that they win by ten. I think it is going to be closed in the first half but I think in the second half the steel is going to get their act together income out and actually put up some points. I like the steelers do not GonNa hit the. I don't think they're gonNA hit that thirty point plateau but at the same time they're gonNA come close twenty seven to seventeen so right now. If you WANNA throw us your prediction in the live chat feel free that'd be awesome Dave. Do you have the information on our survivor league because there's a a lot of people that listen to the show that watch the show on youtube their inner survivor leagues. I know you put out an article updating that. Do you have that information handy. I have that information Asian exactly in front of me right now heads that leaves. I'm still in it Brian Are you early. I took the seahawks last week. Nearly I took the Ravens to beat Miami and obviously it was a big winner I didn't I watched the first plane as I get one of my game. We know Dave Victory Engla- uh-huh yeah which which is funny 'cause I got someone that just ripped ripped apart on my show Tuesday saying saying you're cheering against your team. How could you ever do that? I'm not cheering against my team because I picked the other team in survivor. I'm not even trying to win this league. I'm in this league to see someone else win this football on just in there to have a a good time. I was hoping I would lose and we'll get knocked out but Brian took the pick that was the majority of of the choices of across all six leagues and that was the sea hawks they were chosen. I think they were picked. One hundred fifty five times they were the most common selection selection in all six legs. then followed by Philadelphia wasn't the same in all six but they had the next most one hundred one and then Baltimore had ninety one on the most common incorrect choice which is something I definitely want to bring up is people that I didn't go in time to make their selection so for those of you in this league. Make sure you go ed now. You obviously can't pick the Thursday night game. it used to be that you had to do about Thursday night then everyone would get knocked out because it forget my Thursday I didn't I didn't set my fantasy land up because I forgot about there's game tonight but make sure you get that one o'clock on Sunday because you don't want to get knocked out but could you just didn't make your choice. The other choices that a lot of people made where they got knocked out was the browns who then gotta handed to him the jets and and unfortunately a lot of people had taken the lion's wow although they did not lose in order to move on they have to win people so jets to beat the bills yes there was there was one league where there was because I went through with each one and broke down. How many people eliminates there was a lot more? The people that got correct answers that aren't even listed here because I was surprised at how many people moved on week one because we usually just crushes peoper people oh in in a in a survival league but in this one they did pretty well but it was looking pretty grim for a while when Seattle was down to going going into the fourth quarter there when they were down to the bengals at home and Philadelphia was down seventeen enough that in the first half so it looks like tons of people were going to get knocked out but unfortunately unfortunately unfortunately for those of you that picked it. They didn't so out of the five hundred and ninety two entries now remember I have five live of extra those so really it's with five hundred and eighty seven people but out of the five hundred ninety two entries four hundred eighty five or still alive. We lost one hundred seven the people this past week so were moving on but you can't pick teams pick this past week Jeff. You can't pick the ravens over over the the cardinals does this week shucks and unfortunately I can't pick doing over Miami which I have a feeling. That's going to be very popular. Pick autumn. I'm not touching that game with twelve foot pole well. I'm I'll take Miami with the point man. They're giving nine nine or are we through the spread tade straight up. I mean if Miami keeps this single digits the victory. That's like a win for them. Hey Arm Spencer Hall. I'm Holly Anderson. I'm Ryan Nanny. I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avengers of college football podcast it says in the script into riff on what that means and basically what I mean is it's all spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters pro wrestling too unfashionable pants worn middle slow. We also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfashionable pants that coaches where now if you want take college football exactly as seriously as it should be taken subscribe for free on Apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP got here Brian. Here's the reason you don't pick a team like New England this week. Even though that's an easy win then they're gone. You lose them so then. You're if you're still around in week eight a week nine. You're picking a tough match-up. That might be a pick. Em Game and you're really you're really losing out there so i. I'd like to save Pittsburgh for the Miami Game. You know I would like to do something like that. I'm picking a team like Cleveland over the jets. This week has darnold out and I'm thinking I'm not gonNA lead Cleveland later. If you already make your can you go back and change your pick well. That's that's the thing you can change your pick up until okay one o'clock every Sunday. Do you want a good strategy to make sure you're not using the teams that you think are going to be better down the road you could make picks for all seventeen weeks you could go and right now and make all your picks now. You might want to change them at some point but then that way you know wait a second I don't Wanna I don't WanNA use Baltimore this week. I WANNA use them when they play well with secondary played Miami and now they're playing Arizona today. Play any other more cake teams and that probably not you know or you realize this is your best chance to to to use them because they're not gonNa have easier games so that's something that you can do but there's been a lot of fun so far. You've gotta check on on Tuesday. Every week. We will have an update of is an article on the site. where I just compile all the games that you can see what's going on in the other leagues since you only have access to your end and Dave. How did you do in our picks from last week? Have you have that right here. Yeah I already had that calculating we were it's funny. How does it how do you generally wanNA? Do you Wanna I mean when you pick games a lot of time to finish around five hundred well. You and I both kind of fish around five hundred I got you against the spread. I was eight seven while you were seven and eight but you you did much better with over unders especially especially against me. I was seven and eight with you over under your nine and six over unders took a ton of unders in week one yeah there was a lot more overs than I thought there would be. Yeah that'll be interesting. It will be interesting so okay. We have a time we've got three minutes or so. For some questions of you have some questions in the live chat at fire away will answer as many as we can before we get started. I hear there's a shootout going on right now between the panthers and buccaneers of not watching that currently a lot of people were touchdown a lot of what is the score is ten six. Oh that's a shootout alright. a lot of people picking the steelers to win someone said twenty nine overtime game wow twenty to twenty one steelers someone pick Seattle. Someone said they just don't like their the chances. It's going to be interesting to be. Can I bring up a question that was brought up a long time ago so I can't actually brings us. Is that I'm pretty sure it was Darren. Dalton Said said that about three go the whole show without mentioning the Rosie Nick Situation of him being out and what are the steelers GonNa do yeah I knew for not gonNA play fullback 'cause they didn't do in the past week anyway. That's one of the reasons why I think you know when they lost skipper which Brian I feel he brian let me ask. Are you okay because I I was literally going to a phone. Call out. Have someone come by Your House to make sure you're still okay because Deontay Johnson Johnson is starting for dinner and teaser skippers now. Remember the giants got. It was Ed Johnson. I was going to say it was the day job AIDS that Guy so anyway yeah you guys you're steeler hangovers just turning into like Memoriam of these players. It's it's well. That's that's that's true. I mean it was was very fresh. At the time it was so fresh. At least I'm not the guy and I saw this on twitter. The guy that his skipper he arrived live team. He was posing if he wants to skip. Gosh like it could away my Hodge Jersey. I think when they lost skipper via the waiver wire they signed. What's his name day? You wrote that article all right Elliot. He's a special teams guy and so I think they'll be fine in terms of special teams as rosy next excelled as for fullback. Everyone says he's going to play fullback who cares they don't use a fullback. You know Carl's as why won't they play fullback simple. They've run out the shotgun. Semi shot nutting Smith's going back. Maybe that just goes to show you what they really thought Sutton Smith on the practice squad plot or on the fifty three and they still called J Road Elliott instead of Sudden Smith Yeah since we've done a lot of questions I'll ask the last question here guys. What were your thoughts on? Joshua Joshua Dobbs being shipped to Jacksonville for a fifth round draft pick Brian. Were you happy sad. Indifferent didn't care well. I was hoping to get a A pack of lucky strikes out of him and I don't even smoke just a couple of weeks ago so you know a fifth round. Pick is is amazing. I love this guy as a person. I thought he was a fantastic. Ask Dick Guy for the community of Pittsburgh but what we're looking at here is he really did have that much of a future with the way Mason Rudolph played in the preseason isn't so getting a fifth round pick is that's a big win. Dave that is a big win. I mean yeah apparently the people were asking about Dobbs before week one but I think a lot of the trades I mean still going to have to give up anything else. I I thought maybe they get a you. Know get a sixth while giving up a seventh that famous move or get a fifth by giving up a sixth or or something like that they just flat up got a fifth round. Pick for them and some people are like but they use the fourth on him. You know what you use them. He developed per year. He was your backup for here. Can you turn around and just get one less round value forum a guy that was that was not going to suit up all season if things go right then and that's great would have been nice to have him running practice this week as pretended to be Russell Wilson but you know that's secondary will that's good would get the fifth round pick and I do think it's pretty interesting to note that this has never happened in the Mike Tomlin era and it only happened at the very beginning of Kevin Colbert era where the steelers only have two quarterbacks on the roster with the third one on the practice squad. That's interesting enough like I said this. I asked Lance what he the thought of trade last night and he has all fifth round. Pick whatever it is as mean anything now that means a lot of my opinion based on the fact that that's it's just a it's you know errors that you have you can use even you could say you want to drink. A trade is here's a second round and a fifth and fifth rounds of one that you've required via trade the same when they trade Gerald Hawkins before the season started. It's a player who's GonNa get cut. Joshua's is GONNA street clothes all year. You just got a fifth round pick for him so good trade at those really good as for the steelers to quarterbacks. If if BEN GIVES DOWN AT MASON RUDOLPH GOES DOWN in the same game the steelers are screwed anyways so a and they're they're not dressed. You're never gonNA address them for the biggest reason they keep three so no one else can sign them away but when this was the case they made the decision that they were bringing back Elliott. who had someone sitting in the live chat? Yes he led the AF is because he's no longer practice squad eligible because he's already played eight three seasons so therefore they were bringing back Elliott and hodges they couldn't put Elliot on Practice Squad so you had to put Elliot on the on the fifty three Hodgson the practice squad. I'm content with that and let's see what happens. We'll see what happens all right guys. Good show thought it was really tight. Let's hope for the best fingers crisscross regards to the steelers playing Sunday that's one pm kick-off Eastern Standard Time at Heinz field and we'll see how everything goes and hopefully you'll be talking with Lance and myself and the post game show somewhere around four thirty. PM Eastern Standard Time talking about the steelers first win of the regular season but otherwise we will see you next week for another episode

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End of Decade Special feat Bowie, Fleabag, St Vincent, Janelle Mone and more

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End of Decade Special feat Bowie, Fleabag, St Vincent, Janelle Mone and more

"Hello and welcome to the last big mouth two thousand nineteen and the last big mouth of the entire twenty but tweens literally. Nobody is calling them yes. Was It really any ten years ago that we're all getting terribly excited about new artistes lady Gung are plan B Florence and the machine watching the social network and worrying. Whether Matt Smith make a decent doctor who. I'm wondering about exciting. New Products. From David Bowie in Prince would entertain US long into the two thousand nine hundred thousand seems like about five minutes ago anyway. I'm John Madden and I'm here with my co presenter. Under Harrison as we in our guest use our personal favorites that have kept don minds off brexit climate change and cheering for the past ten years. Hello Hello Sean how you doing. I'm very well your last chance to say this was the decade of and so what was it in the decade of this chancers the decayed of other everything. Everything fell to pieces both in good ways about ways at music. The music disintegrated and facilitates into a billion different things. So it's impossible to say this is the sound of the time that is captured. The moments that it doesn't happen anymore that everybody lives in their entire entirely sort of separates had medically sealed genre bubbles and but also I think it's a it was a time when the public realm realm the wheel. Shed sometimes finally properly replaced by million private realms. All you know create by social media bills created by your political bubbles and I it it it created a world where every body is only talking to a version of themselves. The other thing depressing sauna. Hi Sean John. Is the caving in pop culture as well as real culture et. You've gotta get used to losing all the time. There's a reason why the avengers movie were so big with A. Ah That's basically what has happened in politics as well. So it's going to be. A Weirdo. Decay Tacoma because just putting things back together again absolutely crushing stop in bed. Thousands Aglietta never bottom. We'll we'll do it together. You and I the podcast in the team will put everything back together before we start you and I went to the Arab Exhibition Super Troopers Neo tune and Lina speak. What do you make of it? I thought it was all right. I thought it was beautifully designed. I didn't think it was enough stuff in it. Buying in it's lacking in actual touchstones touchstones. It's lacking in this. Is The real guitar flocking. These are the real close because the move replicas. They went after so you kind of lead through room by room thing which is beautifully recreated created to give you the feel of individual albums. But when you're in there there's lots of fun things like appeared nineteen seventies telephone. You can pick it up and listen to sound clips on the ton of interview interview. And there's a great little hand held I pod type thing which gives you video content but the actual exhibition itself is lacking in artifacts. I wanted to feel like I was in the room with the piano. Were you know sakes all was written. I wanted to fill this recreation of this video but it just felt a villa can experience a non exhibition. So it's interesting but I think when the when your gold standard is is David Bowie is the does not see I see we. We have some guests to announce to help us with our deliberations we do and the both big mouth regulars writer broadcaster Guardian new states person. She's hot from those borders for. She's I'm an angel. Gabriel in in the local Ms Nativity. which happens in pulp? I told you this now. Look You Merry Gentlemen. The hot from the borders hot for the PLA on my twitter bio good-looking holy been an annual fundraiser. A couple of nights ago and I was steeped in tell you under Harrison. Yeah I was going to be a wise woman. I thought that was quite exciting in a good feminist statement. I'm just walking down on a hill with a woman and a man and a baby donkey do have a donkey. I've got to y'All got to read something while baby Jesus is born from the punt. showed the retired vicar in the religious tells me and I have to do this because my husband is a garden indices garden so this is the exciting archer style life. I live in on the board in in the observer pitchers of the year. Just keeping it back to bringing it down. You talked to Richard Russell records about the late Keith. Very poignant and the line the sides me was I think he would have been an amazing old. Yeah it was. It was really like to read how. How did Richard Russell Sound and talking to me was was a tough one I Observatory section is a really tough thing to put together. Because you're basically trying to marshal will people to talk about a dear friends and come in symptoms. Help ghosts might stuff. You're writing for them. And last year I did Dave about Chaz which is probably my most emotional experience the tense Richard Russell. Yeah it was It was hot and obviously it's a difficult subject because the way we wanted to get to make it absolutely correct and have helpless at the end and everything but yeah him saying that the Almond under fina rules brilliant thing. You had a big mouth year on the fans about the funeral enroll. There's an. I'm look online as well as an amazing Christmas lights tribute to Keith Flint. That's been shared on twitter that somebody the whole Arab side of the House is a tribute to him but yeah it was hard and you know. He was one of these artists that brought people together. I am not your typical prodigy. Found absolutely love them. I saw them dreading. I got very confused lost and scared but loved it and before I start your mating birthday and I still remember Brit so I it is A. It's a it's an honor to do those pieces actually so a great honor Sean. Here's the key expert panellist well. According to the Guardian. He's he's built a reputation as one of the music industry's most authoritative commentators. Watch out the music industry his book. The final days of am I sending the Peik was named one of the best books of two thousand nineteen by the Fine Nanteuil Times. No less and the Belfast Telegraph. Goodness Morality Gripping Lee recounted wanted. They said he was definitely the most beloved thing. That palomino has sent to London until they stupid barstools and buses smell of we microwave passengers it show favourite eighteen Ford. Hello Ayman favorite a massive peaceful louder sound on whether the two thousand ten's killed the album. Ah yes I'd kill the album's decades date not migrate conclusions. They reconfigured the album. I can't it so the new shape I think for certain artists. The album has always been an irrelevance and it was basically just a thing into kind of walk singles all kind of make money so the idea of the obviously you separate the album is a commercial enterprise versus. The album is an artistic enterprise so pop music never fully adapted to album as four my and that's not flow on in streaming aged that's why pulp is so preeminent because it's all about the single by think for the biggest deal interest in albums still buy albums or consume albums as we as we say yeah I don't think it's Dad I think it's very cut of a very binary thing decided that yes. The album is alive and healthy of the album. As Diet I think for certain genres. It will remain uncertain certain genres I think digital display apart. Because it wasn't that important side of the Commercial Rimet He said the album is transitioning. Because yeah absolutely is gender nonspecific the album. It's fluid beaten apple music. Well it's not quite like a dirty carbon what it had a massive head start and obviously it's model is different. Because it's got up two types of users it's got those on the ad-supported version and those pants subscriptions or rolled into family subscriptions or whatever is Apple. Lisa pure you have to pay to Subscribed to this by closing the gap. It was if we have this confrontation five years ago spoke to people wreck accompanies. It was always just marketing way. Spa Why and then go will kind of the crumbs to everybody else and absolutely have not speaks. I Rot Lop Bite Digital Morgan out of the last two years they all. Its power already. Four spot foyer on the industry absolutely treats them as one on the same But I think I think it spotify still. It'll go up a really good kind of head start on everyone. And they've been quiet. One is probably. I'm in music. I rolled into prowling leads ages. That's your proper mainstream crossover mortgage which bought fi an optimistic. If you're paying tank Whitman that you're not gonNA skip those people but if you've you've got a couple of million hit singles as part of your prime subscription that's the mainstream covered. I'm so going from my space way. Really beat it next year. Okay before we move on remember. This is our favorites of the decade. So don't be surprised. If the so-called critical favorites do not appear who trust critics eight. I'm remember we'll be back in the second week of January to give the pop culture of the roaring twenties of the same. Good going over as we've done for the two thousand teens well offer them and if he won't support us in our valuable works the best way to do it. Is the backer patron chip in a mere five pounds. A month. And you'll get the show a day early and the coveted extrovert where we stick around for more big mouse Japan. Ten and we'll send you a beautiful handled big mouth Mug to with the legend. I liked big mouth and I can not lie on it. Search patron big mouth to find out more feet feet. The podcast let us know. It's Christmas now clanging chimes of doom aside. What we're all favorite albums of the entire decayed? Can we even remember them to wet your appetite. His his a montage of what does something happened on the day. Spirit Some to this break the the secret CIA in New York without you so far. You're a few blacks dooby Solo. If you from the only city. The first impression seems to press in California low in code inside. Oh God lovely God Garage caused upon a lot of stories. You you've skull one And it's gone pretty cheap it you think I think maybe pink like the pink in August choices and modern chance to that was of course David Bowie's Blackstar as chosen by Judas. Then New York from mass production by Saint Vincent has has chosen by me. Then Courtney Bonnet with depressed and from sometimes I sit and think and sometimes I just sit the choice of Ford and finally Sharma with genome as deadly computer. We'll clean it the tracks of pink so that spray on stuff for the scream few even lifestyle seems like really Benalla points to say why is good because everybody knows is a masterpiece can can you separate the music from the kind of the way. He made theater out of his departure. And that's what I've been thinking about the way he had stay. Actually because I went back to thinking and that is my breakfast that I could soon as you question. I'm going back and listening to it without the immediacy of his death around it. It's really really great record. I think I think But is widely nostalgic. Is probably the wrong word here. But I'm thinking back to the experience of listening to it and pickiness apartments of living in in those months after he died and how weird that time was written by quite lawyer. He's a pop star. We don't we didn't know him him he was. He was disfigured. That for many people followed them in the lives in different ways. You know my first Bowie was labyrinth Bowie because I was a child of the eighties and and the Snowman Bowie when he was in the little clip the beginning of the stoneman and then in the nineties. I go into stock catalogue and then I started to get into him when I was looking at a magazine called word in the Hamptons when my first issue he was on the cover seem live and ice on the classroom. We two thousand. I saw him two thousand four. That's not spiral you go on listening to him and listening record now a I think as hard to separate it. It's not necessarily you know tons tons better than Could've the next day or the the the heathen realitic take a good records as well. Google went back. Listen to all his backups. Look a lot that Aguirre Kentucky Sixteen is funny. Could listening to in the last couple of days I think the next day is nearly up there with it as a record. There's more bang is on it but he's not pop and rock buying on as I say it's like but this one was gonna see. I thought when it came out who the interesting next year bows Myanmar's he's going to go. Leonard Cohen. Go Tom Waits. We're going to hear what you know. An eighteen year old man is because unlike and then it wasn't the beginning he was his phonology. Yeah this is this the potential within when it starts and you have the Chuck Blackstone and you have that cliffside german-based they speak only think this going to go back to his nineties periods. And I think that's probably the track one of the ones I like liste. Even though it's really instinct I could glazer still for me is just so incredible. And the way the men's and the way you can have every time I listen to Iceland here new things I love. I really love that. The the Bundy place with and just those tones to the music is just is very different in kind of looking back at his his catalog and some days monitored Johnsboro high. And and it's funny because he's never been in Bowie fan and he's not necessarily a fan of this record as well but he's got how what you mean mean for him to come into this. Just Virginia last. He's gone it rights tax haven tells us about Courtney bombers because let me miss what she's all about sex player in the ACS when she sees Uh. It's obviously very different album from a AH Bowie by eight coined. If it's obviously cut heavily influenced Bali Nirvana. But it's like Kurt. Cobain had a sense of humor and was quite funny and could see Kind of the humor in the Monday. AM So musically. It's not the most is kind of innovative album. WE'VE HAD WE'VE HIRED DOT CO selling to four by. I think combined with lyrics. 'cause he's an astonishingly sharp lyric writer. You should gained taste. Never listened to before this week singles off. She's about all right just a bit knowing she's funny is Great. She's the lyrics of really funny. Improper tongue twisters really profound. What made it? You'll live album of the decay then on the very simple basis. Though he was the most. Did you look at the data. Did you put it on your. It did come from your spotify on route. I didn't actually when it did the docket on ramp. That was by far away. That was twenty sixteen. I think That that was by far my most listened to our. It's the one that I keep coming back to on enjoy a lot. I think she's she is a force for gates. He's very funny of interviewed a couple of times on the phone and I. I'm possibly this might be the key into. I interviewed about her fever. Albums and a tour fever albums are never mind Viner Vanna and the rocky horror picture show soundtracks. That's choline deaf. If you like both of those things where you can unlock the majesty of Coney born Gnat. But she's a brilliant brilliant songwriter. A massively underrated at very funny lyricist. I did my supposedly on route to the union said listen to his liberal and slate. What was your pick of the POPs in for the twenty teams but again like aim? I went back and thought what have I listened to the most. This only a handful that you listen to on repeats G COUPLA GENO MANET. I just thought yes because I think the glorious pop nurse of it the fact is out and out shiny smooth pop album but it comes from this person who is mainly pretending to be a lesbian computer all the way through. But she's got sly stone she's got prince she's got all those elements there. There's a lot of P funk ebb the melted and something else it sounds really modern and shiny and it would sound more than in five years time. I think it's also really sexy. She's about sex all the time. And there's an amorphous nece that gives it modern stuff this so you don't always know she's addressing a man or woman you don't always know she's speaking from her point of view or from another one but it's just so glorious now had on the cans on the bus us on the way in and just you know to lift that what pop music does not good music does is just transcendence it just contained you out of that every day and you can go into that well and absolutely glorious and joyous again a force for good I think which using forces for good here have you seen her life because I saw her in some tasks US wobbly choice not the only way to describe them Velvet Pink Phidias Voltairian yes absolutely on Lots of people on stage and it was just basically ashbourne truck we played ping lead the greatest vagina they go. That will also also smash it. Anyway I took about your anyway choice also on the played it more than anything else thing. I mean it was very hard. I felt a bit of a trailer not cheesy the super collected by the boys which are both amazing but much as say. Vince has Macedonian which he did play it is Simpleton heartbreaker a banger the bringing the big sort of electronic pop productions are hair previously slightly. Left failed here no capital I indeed as a masterstroke because it sounds like an epic willed eating thing about famous sex and fair and it's funny those bills but New York and happy birthday. Johnny other boasted Berbie soundtracks decayed likes every time. They're on they absolutely absolutely Naomi. I mean some people have the of you know he's still send my way. This is what she was intended to be on. It's what I want from pop music and I'm hoping that this is not hey kind of reaching the top of the mountain and then go to governor something else. I'm hoping this is the beginning of doing this. Because basically she is the eight years our contemporary Robo Sapien and multi sexual. Kate Bush with the twenty twenties. I'm saying and they start at the decade in my she he is now. You know what I remember seeing her with David Byrne all goodness twenty thirteen twenty fourteen something like that and or visit just digging. It was one of those choreographed chose was the he does and but she was just something else I was like. Oh this is interesting and then you run guitars for poll. phonics pre was not her come. Started uh-huh Sean. Should we have some tally. That's awesome shelly. What we're favorites in the decade of my men game of thrones wind westworld and stranger things pop from accession which we did last week? See if you can walk out from these snippets out the second time and Alice de he's some into your head on in the world. Is the priest the sleep with him but I do that anymore. Why will to I do think because I spent most of my adult life easing sexy deflections streaming void inside my empty heart? Good a horrendous something home so you're talking very slack Rebecca. Why are you hiding in here? I didn't choose it guilty as charged in no. I don't believe I've had the pleasure call. I'm Rebecca's brother so you must know all the nooks and crannies of the house. Then yes I spent most of my christmases hiding in various cupboards. Waiting waiting for my little sister never could that. Could you probably meltzer laser her. She'll be or judy. What's it like this bubbly milk? Yes he's creamy on that edit tops. You know what I should know Sir Book Milk Dorothy. You'll probably milk sat. Thank you don't be sure to instruct jeff out to frothy my milk heavy par for Fiji. I can't confidence puppy milk. Every your whole life people have told you. You're a SEC back. I'll show you that. It was really just alive human race beginning to evolve the divisions were created by our government to track instead people like you and the ones. They can't control they kill and they're looking for us. I could help you rewrite the story of Your Life Challenge. Be No I. Can't you're the key to why winning the war strong. Aw that was free. Bagasse chose my dues. Ayman's favorite of the past decade inside number nine the my choice Huckabee and finally great big nerd Andrew's favourite legion. Judy marks for not going for a look at me obscure choice. fleabag considerable the best shows of the decade everywhere. Why did you? I watched the whole a second series again on the weekend. Just I'm I I want to check. This is still as great. It's sobral in the acting is amazing. The writings amazing. What is it is watching it back and spotting lot little things you didn't spot before for for example in episode the wedding of the Godmother the Amazingly Colin playing evil just the basis villainy L. L. Fiction? Yeah she's the biggest monster he's install. She absolutely is. Somebody could be slappers episode. She's introducing all her friends and there's her death friend who looks except he signed something and you don't know what he's saying basically saying I don't even know I am here. There's all these little details but there's a bit where fleabag is on sitting on the bed with her dad and she says to him you know can break to go down to the business. It'll speech about your holiness. Go down and do it and earlier in the series when you flash back to her. Mom's funeral is exactly what he says to her when they go off to her. Mom's funeral year can. So there's these little echoes the fact that his wedding. Olivia Colman has this kind of trauma robotic as the her mother's be noted for her. This is so maybe that will come up. Could he's seen the Hawks priest on another way to watch the series and you know just how absolutely messed up here is incredibly sexy and yes. I found him very attractive. Correct I like lots of women. The country the neal thing anyway even though it's you know Hashtag problematic etc etc.. That's why it's interesting. That's what these relationships are difficult as powerplays and all this kind of stuff but is interesting seeing the names the car the characters the half names as well and the characters that Deng top names you know. The father doesn't have a name that gotten a happening. Clay is probably the name mentioned the most in the series. Her sister. She's a she's a brilliant actress. Who Amazing I'm grumpy? Be Mardi Lordy face and the fact the last episode can have this. You know love actually sort of moment where she leaves the waiting to see the The guy she fantasy work was also clap the airport at this moment but it twists it really nicely and the ending is just perfect junior. The annual only got just brilliant the breaking of the third wall. All this kind of stuff on there you know. It's just fantastic. And my last thing is yeah the Hawk brace dancing to Jennifer Block in economic. Gin and tonic is one of the greatest things up. I see that's that's a good list. Feeble Bridge is now on the papers every single day. Yes what did you do that kind of connected with people. Because I went to see the Andrew Scott present laughter at the old vic and it was just full of feeble the bridge fans so imagine Scott fans she has hit a nerve. What do you think that it is? I think she's so open about facts and and feeling a bit lost and confused. But it doesn't. It's not miserable. It's funny and she just comes out with things that are so shocking but the humor is there could have. She hit his really hard truths or being incredibly funny. I think that's that's it. She's very charismatic. And compelling as well I hate all the kind of debate about Oh she's to Polish Blah Blah Blah. I think that's yes. Of course he's Parsh- but she's witness amazing thing we could have. We could start criticizing and that way I can have saw a lot of of my experiences as woman before I was married in her. With men in the way of She acts people and keep it all in in and she's just she's a joy to watch while her face her facial expressions her physical comedy actually as well as this. She's just she's incredibly the exciting an honest writer and she's bombed she streak was brought in to do stuff with bombed us. Release is side is to the camera. I hope so I hope so. I yeah clumsy tough medicine. I'm you've chosen inside number nine zero. What would you tell someone who hasn't seen it Well I pick when you said What's your favorite? TV show off the decade. I picked up because it's a favorite. TV shows of the decade. Every episode was completely different. Every opposite was completely slightly contained said the premise. If you haven't seen it eight's Everton happens in a location. A rim or highs or bailed and thought as number nine not say that's the only thing and most of them are based around a theme or Motif or genre and are completely undermine none subvert net and everyone becomes his beautifully contained. Thirty minute episode. There is a stupid ones. There's one that is done entirely really Sullivan as burglars trying to break into a heist. There is the astonishment of Asia Christine. If nobody sing laugh. What's at that will floor yet? What are the probably the best half hour off off TV? I've seen the centuries. It's genuinely astonishing. The law one. That dates was incredible one that they did the Halloween one. Yeah Oh my God. That was a nice The just the right man and the clothes on the effort that they put into just completely unfolds on every single and of every single one completely wrong food cheat. Don't know what you're going to need. Some are kind of like straightforward. They did one that was in Shakespearian verse and then they had one which looked like it was like this terrible kind of seventies drama that had probably the darkest and you've ever seen on L. S.. That's Shocker oh come. Isn't it by the Scott Family in a ski lodge and it looks like a terrible TV drama from the nineteen seventies on. It's clear the they love all these onerous because you kinda undermined or satirize or twist these honors with. I have an incredible love for them on. Incredible encyclopedic knowledge awesome. And this is what happens when you get people who were completely forward in television being allowed to make television. And it's not clever clever only climatic Mala on post modern and ironic. Where Ben? It's clear it's it's almost like a love. Latitude the history of television and they. It's just the writing is his astonishing. Every single episode is just thirty minutes of the. There isn't a bad episode. I was GONNA say they are perfectly formed. Almost your point of be fault is there is no hair out of place within the text within the shots. Everything is almost perfect. It remind me off There was a short biography biography of lavender. Who wrote I bruise? Mary's baby steps on they described him as this which the Swiss watchmaker off breath thrillers because everything supersize and think go is in inside number nine are like that as well. I'm margin those those things. Go free like fifty drafts. And it's just take the fat the fat that's extremist just get to the point undo on the dengue fever rim. They just feel perfect. Andris you've chosen something nobody else could. You'll say desperate. Be Cool what's legion. Nobody knows nowadays what. It is only affects channel in America's dealership legion. It's it's the most distance of the Marvel Universe of all. It's like a kind of distant distant outpost. The gist is it's about a mutant with mind palace and the people similar to him that at around him what it's really about it's essentially really the prisoner meet's inception makes the accent. It is visually astonishing. It's about different ways of reality. You're never quite sure whether David the central character really really is as we're told the most powerful meets on the face of the earth or whether he's just a crazy guy in a mental institution and you're never quite sure whether his friends and associates a real or if they're just figments of his imagination origination. The Character Legion comics is a multiple personality character. It's a really it's about mental health and man you're understanding of yourself and what you know. How do you owe personality? archetypes fit together the different layers of reality in it. It looks absolutely ravishing the authorities. Incredible it's got bullock's the key. The starring characters by Stevens from Downton Abbey playing a multiple personality superpower mutant gene. Smart is lighter and watchmen is in it and she's from tastic Jemaine from the conchords is in it credit seats and being immensely swath and existing inside stick with jude a giant ice cave on the astral plane yet uh-huh Definitely Plaza is in it. She's incredible my wife. Lily hates mom superheroes and she loved it. Wow acid test. Here's an luther. Astonishing thing is I never really understood what was going on and I still enjoyed it while they sort of absolute sensory overload shows. Well you never you never quite sure whether the confrontation between one of the characters in an ultimate adversary is going to be conducted by the medium of Bhandara. Drawdowns off is. It is everything existing within people's minds while they rail the his female counterpart is the calculus goal said Barrett that will give you an idea it so essentially it is like an expansion. It's it's like if you took see. Emily play as Y'all touchtone to make a fold model extravaganza misses it and it just absolutely believe my mind. All of the best ways. Can we get them. What do we do? I think it's on various plot moods get on DVD. I mean basically snuck out absolutely no publicity. Heya will the people who really really liked it. And I recommend without reservation loosens the SCHAUMBURG Honda Bay. Also Juliet Davis period drama. Hundred being missed this came out on Scotland -tic and was very difficult to see and I've had a quick check you can get on. What again sky told the popular? DVD formats is on the popular DVD format. Because I did look Amazon but it's wonderful it is set in the eighteen hundreds. It's not even that specific It's obviously based on Rebecca. It's based on all sorts of Romantic Monte fiction and no one is who they say they are. It's absolutely filthy it's hilarious. It's filmed in somewhere. That is so dark it makes. What's the favorite with via Komen? And it looked like it was. It was a nice drink. It is so murky and so strange and then wind. Bending Louis off things happened to the characters are all strange interrelated in very peculiar ways. But it's just hilarious You may have heard the phrase phrase earlier bubbly milk. You will never be the same again when you know. The story behind I I just think it's exemplary of we have raved about Judy Davis specially naming I hi And Saudi forever. But I think the delight is Julia Davis in the period weld in costume with all that pump language language though and her has never heard euphemisms lock face I saw I am a genuine. That you've never had euphemisms like this for body parts of the sexual astonishing. It is astonishing just absolutely you know wealth getting you down Christmas family. It is also very very funny it stores because it's obviously do lead but it's funny when I'll be sitting down the hall telethon to be of a Christmas joy okay before we move on giving everybody a wildcard eight one of the thing. It can be a book of film and Event Poem during in terrible piece of graffiti featuring the members of that Conservative Party cabinet as the Beatles which is around the corner from me. It's absolutely shocking. makes you bend the building jude. What was your choice of the one one of the thing of the two thousand eighteen storms? Yeah yet he's saying storms in general He was fifteen started. He's now headline Glastonbury. Last show was incredible. I love his first record and his new and pre good as well But yeah just like the idea. This guy comes along becomes this stocks as a grind modest. Become this crossover star. Incredibly Keaton given linking different things in the mainstream setup scholarship to Cambridge Bridge for sensible cookbook imprint. As trying to do things he's twenty five like when I was twenty five what was I doing is opening. Post would magazine valuable words you did I was I was going to making t but I was not handling gus bringing bringing all these things together. Yes he does things with that chair and and we who I generally detest and he does things that aren't necessarily always to my taste but what brilliant figure to do even if you don't like music catch this music. Watch that Glastonbury show. He manages to an hour and a half when he's only released a fifteen minute album he puts in things that are buyout culture culture. Grew up with the they do sweet like chocolate. They could if he does freaky. Friday brings on Dave brings on people who are artists that have grown up. You you know with kind of as a figurehead. Really even knows a couple of years between them. Whatever am it was just a brilliant show? And he's such a joyful giving guy the and I think he's amazing. Every time I've seen him talk. We always talked about the importance of his peers. In the same and then I saw him Music Managers Awards thing on the whole speech speech was about the Tamer on demand. No point does. He positioned himself as told by May. He's at all of the none of these happened with all of these people at his vary wire that. Someone's dying clues you the best things about him. He was a judge in the mercury this year. He turned up with a little rucksack in a notebook full of notes. They'll research done about the records. This is stormy when some is a busy man. Who's a busy man and on also? He did a guest editor of The Observer magazine last weekend and he came in with ideas for every single section he wanted to the Atkins sexually these everything and they want they they were talking. You just sign off a couple of ideas he he's got he's just he's involvement. His parents called him storms. He the training twitter chat with Pepe peg the other day and right have you. He went the city map. Appoint the crazy millennial you I I am. Why is that your favorite thing of the two thousand eighteen? So you gotta think by Technology People In this context cut off we we talked about the social media bubbles and all of that a lot they stuck in technologies terrible on technology is mostly brilliant and I was actually thinking about it. I probably not installed a new APP in many many years on my phone because I'm old but see map as displayed. It's it's the most a useful APP a solid off insert name of streaming music service of toys hair. or She's I'm on it's just it's it's an incredible on and also as they add in more cities I it. It knows where you are on. It makes you much more. That's experimental are mental as a tourist because traditionally have got on my God. I'm going to get lost. You know how to get home and so suddenly you can go to all of these cities and you start to feel a a lot more at home and you start to navigate the in a completely different way and that applies to how you start to navigate London as well and it's just it's the greatest bit of technology of the dockyard I think many It's just one picture and it's just a giant black hole and it says therapy Demon Sean. You chose free cycle like the crazy vegan. Jeter what we what is it. What does the best thing he got from it again is change changing the narrative batum technology? Don't it's saying that the technology do these obsolete fucking fantastic things that we couldn't have done without it. It's obviously city-based so I don't think it's particularly good. If like my father you live on a pig farm at miles away from nowhere but free cycle is where you put stuff that you don't want and you wanted him for the stuff. Oh you do. It's usually furniture abass like that but it's been a lifesaver for me. It's been a lifesaver for so many people I've met people I knew on Free cycles I know you giving stuff away. It's about trust and it's about connectivity and it's about technology and it's not a Hippie dippy thing it's just it's just such a simple good idea. There is no revenue in at all. There is nothing. You're not allowed to give someone anything for in return for what they give you. You and I just think it's not culture but I'm sure pe- people don't people give like mini. Just from Ashley could hit me all band again but I really just wanted to say you know we do get this. There is a narrative technology is going to drive US mad. Although we'll be talking about that later on is dark force but as actually just wonderful yet and I think it is example of what what what technology can do amazing for my one on. There is something you can actually read it Saga Comic Book. It's basically Romeo and Juliet in space. She's from the signs planet and she's got wings things he's from the With magic and he's got home they get together and go on the run. Everybody wants to kill him. They have a kid and from this kind of fantasy space opera premise. You actually get look really beautiful. Really truthful stories about families and friendship. That is so much better than and so much more realistic than say. I Dunno eastenders. The characters of fault fought that they they have a more truthful at a more kind of you know resonant manner bane than most of the counting card you see on television which is astonishing. It's beautifully drawn by Fiona staples in a way. That doesn't look like comic. See we'll get embarrassed by this on the bus right. It doesn't look at you right in reading man punches boundary wall. All stuff and things happened. That will hit us hard as heavy crop of dying in Coronation Street. Obviously he's a comic book. Lincoln Love Edith Ricomex. And it's the one throughout the whole decayed as sort of comic books if it's become more popular and more widely appreciates it's what I've always said to people. Give this one ago. Oh you like it. You know people who've been to see the movies we'll never really read anything and people always come back and say that they really liked the saga old people going on a cruise not about although it has actually following the story of this kid and I have to through hell and I wouldn't. I would not bet against the annual level people on a cruise because it's that thorough. I I want to read the helicopter. Comic Book Favorite Films. That we're GONNA need a montage montage montage. What's the most resilient parasite an idea a single idea from the human mind can build six? An the ninety can transform the world and rewrite all the roots which is why mm-hmm I have to steal it. There are days that define your story beyond your life. The day they arrived the first contact. The objects measure edgy coach. GT weapons backpacks at the top of everyone's everyone's list when it comes to translations by already one. What do they want? Where do you from your? You'd be working with him in the show that's what they call it a Ufo and not everyone is wired for what you're about to do so we'll see soon enough every eighteen hours donald is up and that's what we that's you jobs. Water and topple amount success undies sliding down. The you'd think wait a minute. I'm amount of top water. Trump valley this river. Slow Dark Goshi. All these jobs water the one take time you slowly their way up higher than any mountain tap. Dan was that your closest to God. Life's journey it goes round and round the closest to the beginning of a change in need relish the journey aw that was inception has chosen. My may jude's choice arrival and then I'm still here with Joaquin Phoenix which was challenged for the year. Ayman's choices Ben Wheatley. Kill List but we didn't put a trailer because all the trailer just loaded noise all the with that. So let's let's start with kill list. Even Y is kill this great what what's happening and try and do without spoiling the whole damn thing without doing any spoilers weird well I I watched two again The week ends on eight. The fourth time I think of watched out and even though I know what's Hatton hotline or about to happen eight stale absolutely unnerved. It's it's it's the kind of film that will kind of emotionally unsettling away that stays with you for a long long time it's coined of a horror film. It's kind of a war film. It's going to gangster film. It's kind of a folk horror film and it's kind of all of these things on kind of going back to what was talking about in terms of inside number nine. It's obviously someone who's obsessed fast with film on He's drawn in all these incredible influences and references and stories as quite simple. It's two you guys who were in the army together and they've not taken on that effectively Hitman for hire and then they take on the job that starts to unfold in a very very very mysterious. Why it's very similar in tombs off eight coal box Are and eight kind of use of Kinda continent soil to fourth way. A Dome Lake Nona so in the same way that Dunkel acknowle will unsettle you this baseball unsettling for similar reasons. But it's an astonishing film rating. Does stand up to repeated watch. It's only like ninety minutes long as while each gs yes perfect does feel as well like. It's a part of a lot of the car. There's been a renaissance in horror horror. Films I hate the People Are Hora Harare. Announ Right Arfan Dracula and address and Harford was thrillers and and and either action movies to a smaller extent. This this decayed has really been about being a little bit. More open open ended and a little bit more kind of settling. Yeah and this is a really good example of absurdity his coma Genre fill with a completely different vision of amid SOMOS. What that was quite similar away respects? The British stuff was one of the British stuff like lots of you know this is the same with insight. Number I knock live seventies seventies could have slight Fokker public information film on housing killers because it just sounds too scary but it's calling if done mcnally a plus the wicker man. Yes my favorite film down. Terrace was just before the the decade. Just before two thousand ten. Because that's an amazing film unwanted that it's just sweetly weekdays. Six in England. I didn't understand that pitifully shop. I didn't understand but I don't think he enjoyed them. podcast speed speed the things. You don't understand. The aliens arrive in John. Concrete lozenges arrival and Amy Adams Hawkeye from the adventures of all sorts of areas. Why is it your favorite always just so wonderful and yeah Turner unravel I think worked at one hundred it now can have? But I'M GONNA say Obviously Excess GonNa be Split Rama It Beautiful Eights Audley hopeful. It's very very very tense at some points. I was convinced this was happening. Like the design of it is stunning. You know I've always been a sucker for thoughtful slightly quiet epic films robotics quietness and peacefulness about the millions in the same. Something about these hyped applauds. The just arrived. Just there could have very strange. I know that could have The aliens Some people didn't like them because they look like Kebabs I think we might. I might be on the podcast and we talked about arrival. Actually by Amy Adams just wonderful and the whole premise. That These aliens. Nobody really knows why. And it's all about language and communication or we reach the people. It says a lot about how we as societies and cultures jump conclusions. Quite often with she knows a lot about the last accurate in other words And it's about the importance of nuance and compensation and spending time to try and work out imports experts. It's also about thing I mean. It's a great movie that absolutely busts concert genre and sort of it. I think it's been a real great decayed for science. Fiction speculative movies that step above the kind of alien invasion model where it's all wrapped up eh. The end because like the best of them like inception took aides actually about how the human mind works. Yes great things about Robyn is the soundtrack by Karl von died not long after. NFL can such a powerful piece of sound construction. Eighty beats foyer. I was very sad. And he's such a talented composer But Yeah it's another film that repeats rewatching and just thinking about lots of stuff. We've been talking about today. Is the southeast getting back to again and again together. That's been Iranian. I think in a lot of culture in twenty tens. You people want to make things for people to discuss and debate. And whether that has been facilitated by you know social media in conversations positive connotations you can hump art and culture with with people online and forums through twitter. I suspect the movie's about to react to TV. Because to come in yeah. We started out with television. Erupt into impressionist Television and now we're in kind of such granular detail in the Finnish watchman and ninety go back to the beginning of every single. Now that I understand the parameters of the show and I know that I wasn't watching the first episode correctly is going to be more in that to unpack and that in a way is kind of the movie is a two hour. Linear Watch yeah as gone above getting to be three hours three and a half hours. The last few that we've done on the search still feel short compared to standard season policy television. They go Sharm make the case for. I'm still with you. I was really hard overseas. She's think best film of the DAY IS I. I will explain. I'm still here is a pseudo bio pic of Joaquin MM PHOENIX. As he goes mad he decides not to be an actor. And he's going to become a rapper and he announces this on the David Letterman show and he announces this life. He gives gives everything up and its first thing that you see is the site of the beard growth that has got bits in it. The enormous paunch haunch. He wears a t shirt throughout. That's got stains and it gets worse and worse corduroy trousers with this shitty little trainers and he just looks a state state and it is. It's Katy Affleck and it is filmed as it's all a hand held camera follow humor following him around as he talks about his change in direction. I'm what is so good is a parody and lots of people took it seriously. I don't think it matters if you take it seriously or if you don't it's about Joaquin in saying I want to be my authentic self I wasn't before and just highlighting and showing this kind of me culture and the culture in Hollywood and personality and driving ambition or goes into this film miss an actor. He's done so many interesting as well like I needed. Picked her great which allow yes. Yes yes which again walks recently at. It's now it's because it's really terrifying 'cause this new feature an ongoing wherein it now and he's incredible in and yes you're right because he has the edge so he is totally believable Scenes with puff daddy worries going in and saying I want to make a record. He's going but you haven't bought me any money. I need money to make a record. You can convert just because I'm me you know I'm the famous this but I'm falling apart. You're watching a man fall. Apart heels. Take Lots of drugs. He Drinks Ho casino stuff. It's bad nothing thinking the similarity is Judy Davis thing. He's just really pushing it. He's putting as much in there as he can of someone really going off the rails and there's a character portrayal just magnificent essay. It's on the edge. A lot of people. People don't like that film because he's not a likable character. But that's why I like A believe yours also wanted to make a special mention for the director. Yoga's ALANTHEA's yes I I love Yoga's LYMPHOMAS and again he is out there. He is on the edge. So if you're familiar with the lobster you're familiar with the favorite but also go back and see doc tooth and see Alps ops. He's he's like the Nice Laws Andrea he rail misogyny and center behind it. He's far more interesting but his films was a far more peculiar than they appear at first sight and he's made these fantastic films these decade on. It's it's only gonNA get better. It might not but he I just think as director of the decade gopher. Yoga's going right back to the beginning For Christopher Nolan's inception it was his first one since June the Batman trilogy. And it's just like a arrival it is really ideas driven it's a heist movie. But it's driven by the idea of realities within realities a dream within a dream it captures the Khanna texture of of being in a dream perfect. It's it's it's only now or any that independence had had effects become kind of up to the task of creating that completely believable yet. Utterly Surreal Nature. When you're in a dream for me it was a movie were You know the the effects and the spectacle is absolutely intrinsic to account make you know it's not possible to do inception the three hundred stage play in. This does not work that way and yet but neither of the effects just to kind of a sprinkling of You know kind of Glycerin Garnish on top of the story. That doesn't need them it absolutely woven into it and it's completely you know. Emotional under Marquardt landed approached his family. He's great in his name. tastic everybody's talking everybody's fantastic in it. It's it's beautifully put together but again on a bit like legionnaires mentioned him in ago you never quite sure of the reality not just the the the library. It that you're in but the reality of the people you meet again speaking to all all they real other aspects of his own personality artifacts of the kind of dream environment of artificially created Pete Postlethwaite Zain. This is his last must open legitimate roles like that. The the music Hans Zimmer and Johnny Marr. We played a little bit of the top of the show. I've played that to death. It's just an absolutely passing can. Can you re watch it. They able to know we watched. Didn't we in an open-air athems so we're watching cities cities in an automobile. We can say the Acropolis you're in the middle of some kind of two thousand years time and out. Of course. It was completely rewritten for kids in the doctor. Strange movie we've got cities fold again on themselves. I just think it's fantastic. People at the time said were sniffy bout it and saying Oh. This is a form of things. piggly think clever now he genuinely clever film from clever director but the reasons the not. Because it's clever. The reason is because it's absolutely immersive and into swimming. Them only movies can do and I still like watching the I before we go so it hasn't been all fun. We asked the panel to choose the worst thing about the tweens. As I'm calling them Ayman yes. Are you said uh-huh instagram influences. And the removal of the Diana and Dhoti shrine from Harrods. Yasuo one is a general was one is a personal one. The let's Talk White Instagram influencers. Because this is basically industrialized scrounging. The these people are awful. The absolute worst people in the world have taken over instagram energy. Schilling for money they're awful. They're caught morally bankrupt. They are shameless on their absolutely filler. Themselves with nothing there and I think we're starting to see the holy of his come crushing Dina. This was discussed on the podcast. Just the other week they the the great collapse off by the quote at mother of dollars would it turns out that she was kind of running these kind of sock puppet anoints on gossip pages kind of undermine undergo. And that's the nature of the wireless is really Farrell highly competitive where there is also so There's another family that into big scandal. Coal the Ingham's in their whole was that they put up a video on Youtube. Every Diane Than The dad win on holidays got spotted by someone an end up send and massively inappropriate tax to someone who was perhaps dead nor age. This couple. Who sold the wedding before it had been sold the surprise Wedding or whatever it was this marketing. Yeah this is my body is my sister. I follow this person on not even going to mention their name because so awful but there's someone who is trying to be an influence from bombing of the from ballot under trying to influence fluency. They are like okay this is they were at the absolute bottom of all the pollen oi when someone is trying to sell their log no fence people by the the main but to try and sell this aspirational life from Ballerina in. It's awful and has also all these people. A lot of them are or hawking their children as the new Victorian. Send the children the chimney pox on all of their hoses on their children. Also them But the other more personal thing was i. I had a Christmas tradition for many many years. which would go and see the Christmas lights on Goethe Horrid and go on pay my respects at the Diana was ruthlessly riptides talks in twenty etain so I went by Actually This weekend and they basically just a giant sand van I on. It's it's the most incredible. It was the most incredible. Lay All. Fold on wonderful thing in the word because it was a picture of them channing the woven there was a such of them dancing with doty's Shirt billowing open at as a reaching up to Dav that some people thought was a pigeon but it's a dove. You've got the same species the Jonah. Yes they listen victims. It says on on also down. They they lose. This was her wine glass from the Ritz Hotel. That still has her Like Barlow Lipstick one glass or glass pyramid. Bring it back. Maybe Princess Diana from the White uh-huh right dude. You went for Amazon Alexa and its associated. World Alexis echoes. Yup The people I know oh who say Alexa and ready for Alexa. How can it do just press a button? You brain we. It's just the endpoint of the inanity of the Google. Search engine. Yes I will you know Google everything in Kvant. But he's just a lack of you do realize that by saying Alexa on radio. Yeah so you've made everybody's Alexis pulled on radio episode of South Park where they wrote an episode that was designed to get them to concentrate or converse with each other people. People had to switch off their voices because one was that they were starting to order things. It's incredible frighten me. They're weird. I know so. Many people have gotten in their bedrooms. That's where it doesn't you do things doesn't it. Listen to you the whole time. Yeah we have this. I was going to put tires one of my films of the decade but Kvant Watch her than thinking. Oh you didn't stop being so lazy is people who die of everything they need they all they drive me bonkers. I'm always say someone who works from home. And is his own their home four days a week. It's somewhat talked I with my own which is digital targeted advertising. Using which I think is the bane of everyone's life let's treat people like their commodities and sell them more commodities based on things and they're also the stuff you search for other people so if I look for my son and he needs a sweatshirt I don't want you to then try and sell me that sweatshirt back off reporter as well a million times the next two years it is just the holy most depressing thing that this commodity culture that digital world is so. That's why I chose the free cycle thing of. That's the good part of technology. This is the really sinister part. Also tying him with digital surveillance technology which is insipid and is dark and it will get us all in the end. I think we're all the time. Just why I use all these funny browsers and TUK TUK while Just give you the example of the time facebook asked me would I like to join the. BNP Yeah because clicked on a whirlwind tear page and I used to like the smiths. Nasty my my worst thing of the of the decayed. I'm going stealing Jon. Savage's theory that Brexit represents the undoing of the rock and roll era. It is the rolling back of everything that's happened since nineteen fifty eighty six on nine hundred sixty seventy the undoing of the projects where people could become themselves it used to be about everybody escaping they crappy background and now both sides of politics are socially conservative save I want to get put bucking bock. Stay where you all don't leave It's guaranteed Chrissy. The same generation benefited from all that stuff now enemies and the the next decade. The twenty twenties is going to be when we have to wait them out and try and shoot them off the board but I think it's the massively depressing sort of overpowering thing that's happened in the society across the Western World in the Twenty Thousand Back Sky Sox rock and roll needs you anyway. Let's end on a down low end. NOPE WE'RE GONNA play out favored chains of the decayed quickly. What are they and why Jude Muslim? Twenty because they cost pretty good. I'm forty one. I'm Robin Alban. Why this one robin is brilliant? This is best single the last ten years. But she's Elsa the good stuff and pop music. Brilliant Female Popstars took hers. Bay Role Model. Glenn has been so much great pop by ladies there. We go sean. Sean would be chosen glue by BICEP. Because it's about old ravers reminiscing about raving in 'em fails. They watched the video because the video is a work of art as it is a work by Ayman has cheated on his chosen to life is golden by Swayed Angled Ho by shame bit of a segue gentle Seattle is about him. Well Book Ban Start with ass looking but also both bands and their show with the song. They're phenomenal and this is Crystallizes probably the baskets I've seen if the decade from both of those bonds threatening things that latest golden is best known he's ever written. It's just like I know that the always did that every time Rem up a terrible album. Cuban returned to the last suede album genuinely return inform and Life is golden is definitely their best single since the coming up era. Bego I've gone for the Black Madonna with his voice. I hear because it's a symphonic. Bango with cello was on acid on disco and drums and all of my favorite things. That's the end of big mouth for the two thousand ten. thank you jude Rogers and Ayman Ford for coming in staying around for one more thing in the extra bit. Thanks for listening all year. We'll see in the second week of January. Thanks to producer. Alex have a great Christmas. Everyone now please. He's in joy off. The tracks of the decade or decayed is under says because he's been to university by everybody Thanks Lou aw. Yeah and Mark uh-huh uh-huh John uh-huh unconscious unknown

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She's going to be asking questions you've seen this before Donald Anthony Walker we've done with dancer. UC to forty four here. I used UNC to forty five fight. Week we can see the T. mobile arena in the wind of Highness. You Walk Camp but we can't we promise you it's their right week blog blog. We does school for May degenerate from all the for recognize this this bye week. Blog week while the G. Faces it up by HOOPLA. Well Anyway I'm Jose this is Casey. That's as there were here here for another excellent episode of the sidelines. Jaffer people just tuning in as always this is not our podcast is your podcast. You can ask questions in the comment section. He's Hashtag the a side on twitter. We'll talk about fist-fighting. Talk about black flag. We'll talk about punk music. General talking about crystals you talk about how he likes. The watchman show and I I haven't seen it yet. We'll talk about whatever you want. So esther any questions this question at a in a side Stanford Cristo Stole a aside censor. What are you drinking coffee coffee coffee heading drink caffeine? I get if I don't drink as you know the first question. No the first question is how do you feel about this. This is from Grin. And how do you feel about Dan. Merkley Oughta coaching strove to continue. After the second low blow in its fight with Rothwell and suggest that struve was up on the scorecards at personally found that very inappropriate think arrest only concern. Should be fiber safety. Yes okay so you there for the USC ON ESPN said car in Washington. D C Stephenson Double not kits by Ben Rothwell and he was buying on the ground. I read about that as awesome video of it. By the time I was just Lou Rolling on the ground laughing and I think that really is the the thing we need to talk about not not some roughing coaching yeah. Yeah we know he's is supposed to do that. I am a Buddhist. Would you say you've commented on us through said to stop giving Denver out of grief. Because he's comment he's what refereed enough times and he's a good ref and I think there was a he picture of. He had a compromise on win and in the past Dan Merkley OUGHTA has led fight. His fights go on longer than people should. And he's one. I can't remember what the fight was. Goes leave him alone if he wasn't my reference this I'd never would've had this incredible from high winds understand. Dan was Defending yeah because uh he wasn't gonNA pull he wasn't going to. Dan shouldn't have done it. There's a lot of shouldn't have done you know in the sport you shouldn't have done on it and Yeah he he's he's supposed to you see it all the time guys get guys get kicked a nut nuts in. Hey you go to that corner because the other coaches are telling hey rest or whatever or you know no bow out or you know so. That's that's all. He should be saying she was saying how much time you got. Go to the opposite side of the cage. So you can't can't you can't Communicate with require as he should have said Noah Ngeny Steph drew said that it's not the end of the world is not like we're GonNa Mazda got him or something. Yeah it was what Because I was doing twitter reacts for that for the site like twitter reaction accident the all the fights and a lot of related wait. Did the referee just tell him that he could Shuki fighting because he can probably coast to win a lot of fighters thought it was inappropriate But steph eventually said. He didn't really care says nine. He's a nine out of ten fighters I believe Interviewed him like the next day or so. He said nine heads it's empires. Woody continued fighting anyway even if Dan Didn't give him that pep talk so at the end of the day you don't care it's unfortunate that happened But he said the rules time scrudem scrudem because it was like to low blows like that could win. Dui I guess. I'm not sure. But he said nights fighters would have to do it on even if Denmark admirably. I didn't say anything. Can you said he would fighting even standards anything. Yeah pretty much. Yeah but but I was GonNa say oh I was about I was about to. They know I'm done. I was GONNA say no moth my gun. My boss or gone or modify a weird scenario where while how many people are not arena aptitude aptitude out of ten thousand. People are cheering about your testicles not hamper chairing after booming zone in the US agents gone incredibly cruel but very funny funny. It's new me. Emma may twenty Twen Yeah. I'm I'm not. I'm not all about the nationality chance during fights but I don't know that exception. What other nationality chance to get sides is USA on there are not it's only it's only USA it's usually Sometimes not even American fight like could be Canadian versus is a Brazilian. And they'll still just like you say for the White Guy there has been You're you're in the arena more than I am. has there been no now. Brazil man head coach chance actually just saying the name of the country. No no no one. Chance really I've never seen I and UFC or or so. Okay so but not in the regular right. It's Yeah it's it's weird. I never heard a candidate Canada or so but basically you ask about the Coaching strove and our answer is more. USA chance when When opposing fires get kicked in the boss else? That's our answer all right next question with This is from Malan Tino US make our hands with the reese. Comments Colby has made about Dana and seeing daynuss response at the previous presser. I think of Colby Lewis to Dana will cut him. He seems very mad. Colby has made more comments this week. Do you think they will release him big Fan from Australia so the question was is Kobe GonNa get Liz Carr mooched base gate lose the title fight. You're out no no no no way. Kobe Michael content is carved himself a niche. That love them or hate them. People are interested in what he has to say now like he said himself that supposedly so supposedly What was the show he was on? He did like that. Sit Down interview candidates canzone. He said that before Daniel His last night his contract and usually one cut him him They told him win. OR LOSE WE'RE GONNA CUT US and then he keeps starts to do that. Stick like where he called Brazil dirty animals of whatever you call whatever you call them. Many people call them. Racists in that gun talk in the very next fight Lozano's another Brazilian and he had that boomerang thrown by breezy over doom. So that Promo got a lot of eyeballs on this absolutely zero chance. You've actually said if you win this fight. We're still going to cut you. This is just a zero chance that happened and now now we believe everything Koby says. Kobe still selling the fight as all he's doing. I mean he even even breaks cave Mel tonight. which sucks is supposed to do that? Come on man when I when I saw that cain zones flip was talking about how like this I had i. Did this like Promo whatever all I could think of was Jail Sonnen getting upset for like what is pulling the curtain behind the business that Brandon cave so wasn't a fan of that Even Henderson Doodo of himself. Lisa Hensley who knows done that too. He's like I'm not this. I'm like cringe not trendy. This is like me turned up. I'm like don't say that. Make people believe like live the gimmick so but it was no steering so the question was Kobe get cut your loses. No no absolutely not. No he won't get cut for performance. It does now. He may say something completely wrong. Like just bad things you should not say that may happen Kevin but independent of actual punching someone. He's he's for a while. Not because there's a lot of fighters like people want to see if I mas Rudolph people want to Liam fight. Fortunately Menasian was not retired. I'm sure people WANNA see fights There's people that people who who knows that they've been at Kobe out there and they can throw some money at Ben who who the heck knows Table bins then still on earth. He's not even then leave. You know so. We said he's GonNa hip surgery and he doesn't want to coach. Mainly only may soon barbara. That's been aspirin. said he doesn't want to coach. He's I'm only he's only GonNa do wrestling is not going to be. He's not gonNA work with Rufus anything he's GonNa Coach macy barber. That's about. It begins a big bags of money. Changes your thing changes your ideal that is true that is true okay from strike taught Amex if Joe's Aldo is able to win a belt at one thirty five Fif- give the the biggest F- has ever been. That's what it says. Actually it says Bingo I that is how big is the biggest me. Change fought to like her medicine practice measly bigger. Where would that I put him in the all time greats discussion and will it help him recover from some of the damage that the connor? Ko did to his life Of the Bantamweight title it would. Certainly I already inserted jostle graceful revolt on IT industries legacy lost a fight it. That's BS everyone. Everyone lost a main type thing. Destroy destroy the next effected his legacy destroys legacy. It's like no lost like Rhonda's still like one of the greatest fired vault again and she got head had kids in the knocked out Internet distort. I think the actions after distorted legacy more than getting knocked out. Then that's not the world like Josie on the Lawson D- Didn't make can you know you know again. Destroys legacy is the fact that we're reading this question. The fact that the greatest feather way of our time is going to awake last he should not be at and he's facing using probably the second best bantamweight in the world a very violent bantamweight any spacing that guy and coming skeleton. This weekend is going to have more effect on his legacy. I think been anything as I think almost like when. BJ went down to forty five. And you know Oh sorry. Taking those horrible Feith on their those started killing his ex. It's like those continuing Those losses in different weight classes afterwards. Those are going unhurt Lexi. Despite if he gets he gets doesn't make way even if it doesn't make wiggins just gets demolished by Martin or whatever. We'll see what happens. This is much more than the connor loss would yet. I have shades of Dig Sanchez went down to featherweight. And he's like I'm GonNa reinvent myself often this and that and then he came up short. Galvez tried to go down. The lightweight. New York Diego Point Five Kerama. PSOMAS A guy who's in the top five by the time like I. I I just don't this is incredible these guys. He wasn't even a top five lightweight so he goes to federal way and goes even higher in the ranking. Somehow the Diego Sanchez. Yeah and so I just even the auto he loses Volkan asking who is who is ranked at the time rank. Top Five Live maybe two now. Whatever but but I but he's going down so autos going down down last and finding a guy that's arguably higher in the rankings kings than his previous opponent like now hopefully coming out of the thirty? I'm facing name a guy in the top thirty are- known. I'm Jimmy Jimmy Way to rookie. Simone know who is who ever Ricky Simone beat in third fight. UFC whoever that guy was Rania. That's going if you just letting Ronnie Ir. Yes I'll be okay. I could. I could see that as a test to from the going into Marlin. Mariah's remember Marmaris did to actually remembered the first round With pseudo the last three Title fight a He was crumbling. crumpling people just putting Melton financing people. Like if he like John Dodson abandon. I'm where I pulled up the top fifteen advancing Casey canning. I'm talking guys. Who Lower Research done talking about topics like who is ranked number thirty? Okay guys we just. I can't think the name of right now. If he saw Brian Care with someone like that I I would love to buy a strong grappler. Yahya Gallia caraway like there's so many thirty virus like a dame's living. I can't think of 'cause like there's so many you know we'll even cody statement said in your scrum with the pre. I think it was the prefight media days. Grandma he's like I think outside of one fifty five one thirty fives the divas class in. That's that's not because of talent it's just more people look at one fifty five because look the average size human one thirty fives justice. Taxes won't fifty five. I don't know if I agree with that. Hundred five pounds is the most Stack Division in the AFC federal looking real great to right now but vanoy way up there. So there's a lot to answer your question. Asian striker Amex sixty nine cage warrior. No won't affect his legacy at all. Do we know all all if he wins the was if he wins he wins the championship. Hundred thirty five pounds. He's what is he going from the top ten fighters of all time top five fighters of all time At so distant Simon. We're talking. I WanNa see if you Mitch. Wait I lost. Would this loss in this weekend could affect his legacy more than the audit as I wanNA honest I wanted more than McGregor what we said more than Aldo fit shirt. Yeah I WANNA see wait I because he's not looking. I'm grateful those. Even he makes way I WANNA see if he makes way like say he makes way in he goes. I don't know if I can do this again. Yes I'm like I like Chris. cyborg always said this Cyborg said that I can make under thirty five pounds. I just can't show up and fight like Cyborg the next day and I think all those going to make a hundred here I I doubt me. I think he's the hundred thousand five hundred thirty six but it's how he looks Saturday night walking that cage and if he fights pseudo he would one thirty five and does he have his body not handle five rounds after that way throughout fight like he is his could his body handle that one extra pound GonNa want an to Morales slap questions. Pay Your sixty bucks much on. Pay Per view out Conor McGregor excited thirty five pounds heavier than him in good God. It's it's like thinking of a Charlie Brennan in Anthony. Johnson fought at light welterweight. Now one of those of light way. One of them's not fighting heavyweight might freight Franson Ghana. John Wesley you're right Mr Brooks in the chat would like to know if Holloway Loses. Does he get the immediate arena again. So I think he's wanted who especially how it depends on how. Well I guess it would depend on how it plays out I. I don't think there's one way if I can play out that war. He doesn't he wear he doesn't really gets melted. Four seconds Yahoo Rematch. Actually because he absolutely would get a rematch why why Aldo melting thirteenth. by WHO. Yeah what do you think the C. stands run you ever yes of course no yeah rematch. There's nothing I can happen. In this fight he won't get rematch unless he gets all of you. Who Do we have do? We have volume Frankin Franken Couple weeks now note. None of those more tickets are cells. Won't pay per views then hallway rematch. Halloween grinded out for twenty five minutes. Gone along the cage he'll still get a rematch again. Knocked out in two seconds get a rematch. I think he would also because maximum undiminished access health. That's what about because remember to. UFC Two forty in Edmonton someone. Absolute when do you want to return. Because they added fuel On that Australia you goes Brain Scans I so if he gets like crossed in this fight and he is you take twelve months for rematch once. He's healthy shore but maybe bulk amounts mutation of a flood corey's we have Rhonda situation where volunteers to fight someone in uses in the maximum or like Yet Ron never rematched holly. She ended edifying Amanda on a return. Holly lost a mission. The Mutual Ostermann than I think the questions based in Hollywood loses with his next fight will be still. He'll still be the title unless there's some cutting issues where he goes up five or something like that but assuming all those are good. Yes I must be. Yacky might not want confederate ever again and the only reason auditing rematch of forty five is because of connor situation. Yeah in the end when hunters next by Frank Frank Lloyd again. No no concert. Getting into all the expert was used to run against Franken auto did get direct rematch. Innocent in general. Yeah Ah came you came straight back for a title shot so so It was connor. That didn't accept it. 'cause I think Honda WanNa Fight Frankie Frankie at one John. Connor would fall Frankie at one forty five hundred percent a hundred percent. I think that's a fight conor wishes. You haven't got one point three but that go that I I don't know I remember. They were doing like that the UFC did like it's weird thing where com this is before. Remember two hundred. Connor was there. He was standing on. Knows what I'm saying if Frankie had being Aldo left. He would've fought at one forty five again. He would franken one. forty-five Bobby. Yeah I think definitely as if you look at that. He like before even for the album fight. We did like the top ten of the AFC Z.. Like what's Everyone in Frankie's He had something the ad like a promo on everyone in the top. Fifteen I'm gonNA got the franchise like what will I saved. Frankly that dude's alleged connor nate Connor and eight to to to a blouse. One Seventy Yana Connors time on jammed with so zoe fought a dentist. seaver in Boston in Aldo on men is at one eighty nine hundred lie Ou- December UC one nine four. And they're supposed to fight. After it was on one for five at one eight six. The designers fell broken footsie by NATO one seventy native Eddie wanted to five. UC to a five took. That long laugh fought mayweather in August and then took another long. Your long life in the Nevada Habib Easy President there's a lot about events. The also fought Sweden while Max in Boston because connor has a long I was looking at this like the people were like. Why does he find him surrounding? He doesn't Connor. Doesn't like find like Serono Guy will pull out right. He doesn't want 'cause he was. Do you remember who is supposed to fight instead of Max mass take replacement Mac. Os Max on the Boston card. Andy Ogle useless Andy on the prelims of the first ever episode card in in twenty year old Max stepped up and then the next up for advice next up that far and for Connor and then the next next fight conor had 'cause memory bluesy out he's supposed to return those coal millet in Dublin. Then he got he had nerve damage any day over announced it and then he was supposed to fight Aldo fell out. And you're supposed to fight Fell out of context late replacements. So what you're saying is Sironi Wigan injured and he'll still show up now you if you're injured injured being shown that maybe o'connor apparently had his. ACL shredded he's still showed up. He wasn't even motivated. The focus now jeeze motivating focus. Come on his foot was a balloon. Yeah Majete as structured Camp Oreo. Oh yeah I think it was refined. Hey I'm Jason Dell right. I recently wrapped up land of the giants. The rise of Amazon. In this this podcast we examined. How Jeff bezos turned a small online bookseller into one of the most powerful companies in the world? We start by exploring how Amazon prime became a service with over one hundred million members and the main source of the company's power. I mean I think that's kind of what Amazon's banking on right that you're just so locked in. You're you're going to go to any other sites. 'cause I mean I don't and we end this season by pondering. The question is Amazon too big and we just don't want to be the United States of Amazon. We just really don't land of the giants has been recommended by the New York. Times axios wired and more. It's a candidate. Look at the state of Amazon today. How we we got here and what the future might look like? The entire first season is out. Now find out more and binged on apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast. I am so anyway. That's what we've got phone questions in the chat or Hey Washington. Washington would like to know Dana said Connor Connor wins. He gets an exception Goff hotter here since work with excel but so who does Justin H. H. E. fight next winter felder hooker. That's Justin just sit out until next year in Connor is GONNA fight. Mazar doll wins in the gauge. Could fight the winner of Habib Abib. Tony who knows but just engaged like there's really known unless he is itching to return like right now Franson. Ghana was the right from Contender heavyweight so he could sit out and pull the After kelvinside out for a year or like car lamas I think. Be Eric Coke in the sat out for year in the fall although New Jersey. He could do do that but he wants to fight he could fight. Doing are just engaging has to do everything you'll see in connor wants them to do. That's what's going to happen just engaged. You just engage you. Wants to buy title. Don't matter doesn't want to happen or Connor Beats Ceremony Connors. Getting it. It's up it's up to them. It's suggest engaging Yeah I'm not I'm not doing like a court. Of course. Justin should be should be five next of course but also the timeline just doesn't lineup 'cause like ones that fight that Habib Ferguson played his April so then caught. And then when did one was the iphone Vancouver over that September so his last September. So Antioxidant Hubby Eh hubby fight in April. You probably won't fight again until November or December. So that'd be more than a year layoff for just engaged to waste title shot. And that's if Habib winced Tony Ferguson wins. Why wouldn't they want to run that exactly like just engaging if he wants to fight like who can I don't I don't think he wants to buy? I think he wants to fight for that title. And he'll do you remember when at the dominance He says he wants to be more than he wants to fight for. The title is he wants to test themselves against B. So if Talia but he's saying that under the assumption that if we if we if Tony just steamrolls Habib you think just engaged. She's GonNa get on micro. I still want the guy that got his ass kicked. No we'll what I'm saying. Is that when I am what I've unstoppable. What I'm saying is if say Tony Ferguson Visa Vive and then they wanted like Tony versus connor? Why not make age versus Beat because both of them because it's a massive because that should be gauged not gonNA take. I think that she has a little bit of pride. In that way. I have to the guy demolished. Lose it again. That guy gets in front of me. I mean let's money talks man like mine if I B which they're not. I don't know that giving give him championship money for non. If I you'll see probably not it doesn't get you're GONNA be. We might actually just get you while. That's why I think I hope not. What if it's in Russia we'll give you a lot of money to go they? Am Championship money. Yeah he's a prizefighter he's he he is a prizefighter you know he wants bags of money. That's what they're doing this for so if they pay changing money. Yeah you'll take him for all. We know that April fight could fall fall out again for the fifth time and just in case she fights in spills in for one of them. Anyway maybe he fights any for the INTERTIDAL. So that's just just engaged. She's relying on it so I'm getting. He said this career and said he would fill do a service. Backup under the right circumstances which is obviously money and this is also under the assumption. We we have no idea if he would accept defy against someone completely scientifically different. Yeah he for sure for sure like he he one hundred percent would because I remember when all that nonsense Twenty three in the Wadi Finding Allie Kingston to fight on two days. Notice he goes. If you're a good fighter you can be anywhere anytime. I don't care when Mike ponant shaped like this was when they did the press conference staredown with those who use it could've been admitted pedestal FELDER doesn't matter like if I think the best I should be able to be anyone anyway time so I don't think I think if anyone would for sure take that fuck just because he's he's done in the past one. Study Power of say I if if Habib is headlining a pay per view if Tony has hurt again and Habib's have on card in Brooklyn you think Habib's going to pull out of that Brooklyn Card no way but that dart art a win against our no way. No I'm saying like because the next way is twenty six also in Brooklyn so tony gets hurt. You think he's GonNa turn out just engaging in pull out of that car no way abuse. Stay on that comment on what you don't know that I'm pretty confident if I'm wrong if you're wrong so I dunno shaved moustache them's the breaks. 'cause I'm wow okay well just one more Marcano questioning because it's in here. I don't think it makes a fighter more bad ass at all. I think it's a bad idea I don't need I don't need to train or particular. Oh no I'm I'm not saying that. It's bad astronaut. I'm saying we have. There's like something to go off of the Habib's done that in the past so there's nothing to say that he wouldn't do it again. Paladin Boza in the chat. Actually has you know has an interesting question which is does connor retire after cow if cowboy this ties no no. He's GONNA if he loses he's GonNa do the nature of the impedes near both in agreement. Because I did the repeats a few weeks ago and he said the same thing aim does cowboy boots connor. That he's GonNa Retire. Unlike no he's GonNa take the nate rematch. The nature of the both coming off losses. What other fight will obviously cars big name no matter what but that would be two losses in a row he would have lost three or four was last anime fights? Since if you're including the mayweather fight them lost four five fights at the end of the day congress a big draw we have to win and the nate fight is a big fight and they're both coming off losses and they knock him. Go ahead coming off a loss. They're not going to be titled Shop Coming off the Law. So what's the next week but you could have coming off a loss in that So I think if he loses he doesn't h he loses snaith But if you beat Keeps going on site just by easiest fights wherever the money is short in that nate nate if he loses obsolete the name. That's obvious one is the biggest fight he could take. Those on. One may go out of my stupid again the way my new car floyd again. Yeah Connor Connor Connor Connor outlets. Let's slip back to this week. Diego Giancarlo Camila with or crooked. I don't know I don't know if he's Brazilian or where does Leon Scott I think he means Edwards Edmonds. Yeah where does Leon Edwards fit into the title picture after Covington this get you need to fight for. Supposedly the wants to fight. A tire would Leeann main vendors in London. Battalion really doesn't want that. Well he doesn't want the fight in London and that's what he says. The guys are saying. Oh I just go to a number of occasions like that all that thing is like hey you tell me some more money. That's all that is yes so I don't. I liked that fight. We on words entire time where they had. You can make sense. But if time really doesn't take then I don't know who I'm looking at the welterweight rankings. Right now Be already failed on knows does David Doesn't have five feet of Scott hurt. Stephen Thompson broke his hand. So he's GonNa be on the show for awhile. He's not fighting at. This is going back to lightweight. Rob Lawlor this yet. He just used by Ponds Nubia Fall out of this card. The silver lawler pulled out resenting Lucas taking time off man event. That's all we're going down to thirteen in Magnesium Jeff Neal I think the only one I would like to fight is positive if the Woodley fight doesn't happen. Whatever happens Liane Edwards? He's probably he's lost shuffling. He has defend yesterday. He has to demolish someone. That's according yet he has hair. Yeah he has. He has to demolish someone is ridiculous. Shit on the MIC. And then maybe he'll get a title shot. That's I don't think he's GonNa Leapfrog anyone welterweight away unless he says ridiculous crap I guess as he just liked Colby Wins Liana was knocked out Woodley. He grabbed her American flag. Smashes is a this is for. We'll coming back. Does the what if he does it to the Cuban flag calzado because they already have three piece part of the three pieces of Soda History. I think he's more no I think he's I think if things go crazy. Mazda Edwards is more likely than not as with all mean than Edwards. Getting a title shot. Yeah I don't think Edwards is getting a towel sometime soon. But no reason other than that he doesn't he doesn't move the needle enough now he also is only fought in the US twice. He's always on those early morning cards like he's a good fighter booking newest once right that was to thirty two L. Mendez. Would in time he was he had. I know you're right. I keep thinking he was on that Boise carbs Jan Mendez. Now Boise Guardia. Right I win was doing his time line video. He's never fought he's only fought in the states once. And this is first time in Vegas It's going to be as for time. Base Boise. He was on that Boise for a card. Well now Dan gains nobody. No one's there doesn't count you think I'm talking to pay per view buys on camp. They really don't you mean you didn't soon Mansa Watch. Jd as blogger. Ivankov in State Northridge Zach Auto. That was the only tune-in voyeur. Why didn't bother me is now that was the Niko price hammerfest off the back? Geez okay alright just remember. No one remembers Boise. I do. No one remembers I do say Boise Loyd Corner Wellstone that car reform on all right. Actually I look it up On his name is Leon Scott Edwards is i. I don't know if it's really his real name but like it's kind of everywhere I can't tell if it's just it's like a joke so I'm GONNA call. I think Colby call him the on Scott Carr someone some welterweight call them Leon stock as like a joke Eh. Just people say when people call them are Marty. It's gonNA spend so much. Yeah I don't remember who said yes as I say people people agenda that people stop. Oh now that's called comedy. Yes yes I apparently. Apparently it's called comedy we zones name. That's not really their name Yup Chacha getting answer Leicester. ELC would like to know who you are picking grandma newness and Max Coconut It's hard against Amanda so I think if if if if a mandate keeps it standing then of course it's a toss up fight the mandate uses the wrestling takes your down. I think that that Sudan. Obviously it's a it's a it's a it's a higher probability to victory. I think that's I would. If I'm Abedin Man I would put Amanda by submission. Yeah I mean if you want but that's what happens but opposition on the the first fight right dude if you have you. We watch that I find. I remember watching that and I was a big JD. Arfan coming to fight Jay. There's junior and she looks so bad in that fight and or German dramatic so bad. I thought that was the last time we're ever going to see her. Fighting a high level life life. She looked she got taken down basically like she quit and she was out for almost a year and a half after that and her follow up victory I can't remember because she wanted against but she wanted Pachinko on a good prospect at the time way too young men Ese. But that's she's doing very good call right now but She came back. She basically said my mentality by training was just completely off in the past for those five different women with different person now a different fighter and I see it and so I now I believe in now but I remember coming out that Nunez The first one I was like oh cheese done I leads I just. She doesn't want to be here and she met and actually I was kind of happy. Lucy admits he confirmed my suspicions. He did say a year later. Yeah I was not not in the right Performed three incense then. She's only fought once a year. She fought twenty eight fifteen one sixteen seventeen eighteen so this is her first first year with two fights since two thousand thirteen. That's why I don't know I knew. She was fairly inactive because memory when rather Denver Vice said she is On She's going through logic cry Jet Jet Broken Hands Jetty. Ice Arrange she thought she was gonNA lose her is there is a freak accident. What's your timeline? Find out what happened but yeah newness it Wen but if your main knocked her out I won't be shocked now. Germain intakes now submits Nunez. That will be very shocking. I'll ask I'll ask you this now because at UC to thirty nine a man who was fighting holly a lot of people were calling Amanullah greatest his fighter female fighter of all time leading fight. And you were very adamant that she was not there yet. You still put Rhonda Number One after the homefires. Do you put a man of the grace fighter female fighter of all time Arna. I think this version of Amanda is degraded Hussein inner cage This version Amanda now. I still have issues. Doing the whole issue issued fight about time because she's had lot Amanda lots of bad fights she's had lots of mediocre vice you sat. She's lost to mid level fighters so like But like almost different eras in amandas career but this version lasts like five six years Amanda Newness. Ns demanded as has been doing this for ten years. Now I I. It's I five years of her career. were very hit or Miss Lewis last four four years I think After the casting gone loss. The yeah that that by like much like when Germain LAS meninas previously. She came back different fighter that cats in Ghana loss journalist came back is 'cause 'cause before newness loss because she she got grinded out by wrestlers got taken down eventually got tired and submitted but catches decrease She full mount on. Can I first round. And then and then she got like toss in the second and third round before she got Cares monitoring the top. Yeah Yeah but since. Then she's being allotted with fighters it's the very violently to very quickly the only so I I just think man of news. This era managers is the best female fighter. We've seen at bantamweight ever the only talking about is this version still better than Rhonda when Rhonda was just we again. I don't know I think. Level of competition Fight is slightly higher than Rhonda's Level Competition During her tear through like she auguring. Yes I think I think McMahon liked him tune Fights for good I think I think they're both one a one B while I heard amandas manages Kayode Cyborg. Tko like Rousey submitted. Tate beat Valentina twice she does have the one over. Julia Budd strikeforce did you win over. NFC Women's champion Shane Bazeley. Let's another champion. She's be If you go back and watch Alexis Davis Wash it Saturday. I I like. It's kind of like. Wow you're kinda like this woman isn't the best in the world it's Kinda like Oh. She's a brawler but that's about. It wasn't yeah wasn't training New Jersey. Backbone she was in my master's which is another camp in Florida. I I think I I know Riccar Llamas. This part of them is together. I think car obviously your ats. That I'm not sure Wednesday T- might have been after the catfight. Oron generally don't know. Yeah but yeah her can't change update. DT was Definitely brought out her censor censored catfight. Decision She's adware against Valentino bouncing and one of them was split while she lost Sh. Okay I want to go one more question for this and then I wanna I wanNA actually we have gone a lot of DC questions the one who is the most likely to lose their out this weekend. Camara Yeah Kamar. Because I'm not a big tomorrow I think of all the Do that's the closest competitively. I think I I woke and is I think a real good chance of beating Max of course but I think the author and that's why I think it's great. Yeah I agree. All anyone could see three title changes like I think the last aspen is usually seventeen yard. TJ Cody the GOP. Be Being in Roseby Johanna We could see that again on Saturday but a heavy favourite going share. She was she got crushed. Those three stoppages too but I do. I do agree with you. I think I'm imagining Kalyan. That fight. I think that's like toss up for me like who wins that one and being tomorrow but but Kobe surprise me all right. Let's switch To the DC card people are asking about Franson got him since might have a jersey. Neil Rosen streep yes do you think that's going to be the next. That Hari sure hope so is furnished him oracle. I don't want that fight because because I want both those guys on both those guys have title shots. So that's the problem. We we not a more continuous other out then. You don't don't have multiple contenders. So who should they fight to. Obviously if if it just in a vacuum yeah of course when the fight every weekend but from a matchmakers point of view. I don't know how much sits that makes the top to take out to number one. Contenders may take takeout Those guys I guess the thing is diesel. DC has already said that the fight is is drilled against debate will most likely in the summer because they're both yelling up which means Francis would have had his last fight was July He would have had to wait a year and then he would have to wait another like x amount of months for a title shot if he wants to stay busy in said he wants to return March or April made when summer. Why not book that on the same car that stupid? DC because DC's pulled out fights before like just have standby for plus if DC wins and he retires steepest gum. His next fight is going to be for the vacant heavyweight away championship and then put Francis in franchising than beyond same timeline. Because they both fought on the same card I think that makes it similar to one. GSP Default Hendrix On the main card was lawler McDonald's in when he wanted vacated Hendrikse lawler fought because it bolts. Were on the same timeline. I'd like that idea. India like you said if it's a vacuum yet of course but the promise Francis is like you take pro for him. I bet in his mind he thinks. big boys a tougher fight than Bo cough. Or whoever it whoever might find for a title so it's just such a high risk fight for not that much to money and compared to a title fight. So who the 'cause junior now fighting curtis blades but Francis already be in blades twice dirt. Sheriff Loses Fighting Latifi and then after that Jersey knows the next man up Amer Volkov. They're five six. Why is there Louis? Find Your TV. Donna unlike a number five ranked heavyweight is fighting a completely unranked. He's not finding like a former title challenger the finding us he's fighting a to ever Donna journeyman that is actually just makes Arabia's Maria Latifi wines who's GonNa jump up like number six right away really. TV Dame Corny beat staying Forcing a job at bustle. But I'm saying like if you WANNA make another container fight like the only one that would make sense that they're not booked your jar Zeno in France's or Volkov like any one of those streets because unfortunately over him just while all over his loss to the St Will Harris isn't GonNa find any time soon then after that you have a bunch of fighters names that I can't pronounce Anthony Johnson and there you still got a bunch the other two a fibers who might go up and way up there. I don't know yet. You Still Got John Jones. Just take it. They throw a bunch of money. At Him Value Rosen streak in Oregon. Oh Volkov Ron Johnson was the question. What do you think about that fight? Yeah it's cool. I actually don't think it's going to happen. It could what if it turns into to another Lewis in Ghana where they're both like dumb. Whether it was those were a lot of it was a a series of unfortunate events that led to that that same unless both fighters coming in their injured and they literally need a paycheck then. Because that's all because people forget that. Douglas Douglas That fight was against any other heavyweight in the world outside a Derek Lewis. The two win their earlier. I can't do anything more than this. And you just look tough. That was the reason a so there was no action. So if anyone comes out France's friends the usual so you would've woken up yet. Him He wakes up. But if you're never gonna hit him he just kind of that was just a a series of important events led to that fully. It was a mark Monday doing Julie. So all we're down and I I still have issues with that. She can choose celebrations and they may get punishment. The celebration for Sean Celebration for people are around Mark Knopfler actually Martin. Did you spin a cam. As he's a man he's a man mark is a man and the fun questions or cluster actually will also about DC SORTA from from Louis or baby usage here. I still not seen that show so you know. It's it's a video game video. Game since there's been so much talk about testicles getting smashed non recently what is the worst hit the balls. y'All have had person. You spar a lot more than me I got I got oh I got whacked in the balls before came at the Vegas Yeah. It was wrestling a single switch legs. Okay and I got. I always always workup no matter what I was like our light wrestling today. I'm going to be a little lazy. That begin thirty seconds to put my cup on of course hangovers. Ride the middle in barely man when it comes up underneath. Oh Good Lord. It's like it's it's a different feel. It's a different feel and it's one of those those you've got to take down I was Kinda I was Kinda memory. Oh you hit me my Dick and then like I was trying to play it off like then it just starts hurting more and more or more and then like by about fifteen seconds later I was like oh I can't do this anymore. So it Kinda starts hearing moves. It's a interesting Phil. But then once I went to actually stopped. GotTa stop it and again I was trying to rest then a guy he kinda got it fighters. They hit the Boston like they go. uh-huh go to go to the corner and they kind of sit there for a while and they start going. ooh Yet because when you stop moving that's when it Kinda starts building up I was actually told by a a fighter when you get when he told me when he got kicked in the deck. Either you take the fight the whole vibe minutes or you immediately go back out there and fight that's what you often see the fighters You can dig in there. They can't take a couple of seconds and gone to go. And you hear it. I D C Arro- take you five minutes but why talk to these guys. These guys said the only way for that to go away is a have another man trying to kill you because your body can only really concentrate on one type of pain. You know so like if I I can't work with my boss because I got fucking Pentagon about the fucking Brit my face off so Yeah I got so yesterday. That's hitting the boss a lot on language for our youth listeners. The gallon or something. That was important information. This was my TESCO. Talk that replace crystals Crystal my answer would be one of the many times shortstop in baseball GROWNUP during in a game or just or just building in Rhode Island. When I was coming up comedy call practice baseball? Practice passing egging Bike practice fight camp baseball practice. Okay not like you have practice every day you'll go you know baseball training Go to training camp to like work on by hitting US up like a practices like in game scenarios. We don't go fight because we're GONNA fight back this year but animates not sports entertainment so Rabin Rhode Island for baseball starts in the marksman the grass still frozen. So you get a lot of those weird skips off of frozen grass. That's the answer. Are you wearing shorts doing. I'm sure have you uh-huh okay. Yeah let's not go onto testicle talk forever at Dennis we know about I every van needs to get hitting the balls ones to understand Casey about Casey. I've watched the keeps this runoff. Kick you yeah blue like like a kick in the nets and chain USA. That's the only time I'm going to do the professional wrestling. What were you just hit behind? Hit with basically the disease is going under. The Art came right up under brilliant question. Do question whatever person okay. Dennis Loris would like to know how does balance where do a welterweight tournament and have. MVP Not fight anyone from the tournament. I got building a guy backup but seriously. He's thirty two and shouldn't be considered a prospect anymore. How are we supposed to take him seriously? Fighting your local mailman have you seen the LEXI gets. He does really well. He does really well fighting. Not Nobody if I if I if I see level bullfighters skyser aren't quite for the big show but they're clearly trained martial artists and not. They're not not not explode. Fight series guys. He's fine. I find you find athletes. He's trying fighters Bob's he's not by the League guys I I was at the at the Douglas Lima fight because that was the same day the same day as the rose Just GonNa draws fight so you guys were all working that fight. I was on builds or duty. I don't know have you watched that fight. Censored sense of humor writing about that fight so the value of the second round right the second round but envy was doing was finding law success on the feet the first round in the only got taken down. He had risk control the entire time. Where even though he was on its back I still gave it to? MVP The first round like Doug Liman literally really couldn't do anything from top like you try and because MVP's arms are so long that would go to punch and you could just grab his wrist and he was controlling of the Holy Spirit. And then the second round. I asked him this. I go what happened. Why did you get off that way? Like consider rolling back. He just stood up went forward and he goes. I was finding so much success on the feet that I just got overconfident in thought I could just stand up while when get knocked down to kind of trying to go back literally really looks like he just tripped and just got was standing up from the sidewalk and then just live right hooks from L.. So he goes. If I just rolled back I could have won that fight. But that's a lot of what it is but he was looking US generally well-meant flights I got knocked out. I don't believe I believe he's on his way to losing decision decision Competitive Decision Competitive. Didn't a lot of people were going to say using again crossed by Douglas. Lima which he did on his because of his own mistake well. I don't think I think if he didn't get knocked out there and it was a decision it would have been competitive. That's in May may is all about. Who makes the first mistake? It really. Elliot's that's I'm amazed who fucks up first and that was a dyke. We're all like we're always talking. You Get up basically you never get up like that what he did you just just I'm Kinda Kinda shocking. He got up that way. You just don't ever do. That's why that's why the knockouts look so. Incredibly unique zoo never seen that in in kind of high level because at a high level you just never get up off your but also he got. He got his legs kicked up monitoring and then went forward more. And you've got like that instead of their protective but down get back. Handout is like I wanna see that again. I would like to see. MVP Rory Or anyone else from the tournament like this commentator said like I 'cause now I'm sweating belt or Japan right guy he's a decent journeyman guy guys. WHO's doing onscreen? She's not able to. WHO's this guy? He's a decent deal and he's like this isn't this is the guy that we fighting on a no premiums. You'll be like Oh this watch us you know. It's it's not nice grub is. He's a he's a talented dude. I WANNA seem for Roy Donald. And if he won't be Roy than wants to the rematch against Luma because right now. Lorenzo Larkin probably has an X.. Title Shot Against Douglas Lima but like the MVP roar who who has their neiman at Bruce Khorishkov Enersen jump up to one seventy Benson Benson Benson verses. MVP sounds like that sounds like fun. Fight on. Cajoled Dylan's seventy saucy. Could Drop Donald Seventy five now. If that was the question a Wisey by this guy's environment I give some time. Oh danger was clicks. That's why you got. MVP question actually an interrupt. You Andy Williams asked not versus Raymond Daniels determined. Daniels Walter Middleweight. Actually I think he's I think he's walked away. These were but he's he's but he's been very unsuccessful in May so unless they wind kickboxing. Yeah goes one on one in a yeah he. He's retired from males away. He hasn't fought animation fund in May nineteen first flight own. Never mind I guess. Oh he is giving it a shot for Birmingham fought in Bella tour. You're yet that's I know that he gave me. You didn't tune into watch rent primis versus Tim Wild. I'm Brooke Premise. One by Gogo plot in that do not is he on the main card. Yeah use the opener. Kale right this is probably GonNa be the last question from John. False boss rank your top three years of the decade in. Oh actually has two questions and the second question is tigers. I or Apparently hurt Oh actually question. I've heard balls else well to answer because tigers. I'd looks tired of that are using targeted by crystal on. It's a crystal to test. It's another word for testicle now. Oh yes the Tigers is crystal. That looks like would wanNA nickname my testicles so tigers crystal question because I like like how it looks like wood and you can't really tell us feel it s year Personally or like fight wise. I like to two thousand thirteen. Because that's why I got I had just graduated college. I'm telling you like the store like Rhonda fought with debuted. Read Out Kris Wider B. Anderson that year amps and broke his leg GOP came back. Fought Johny Hendricks so two thousand thirteen stands out. That's my right answer during my master. Yes let not discuss this with this. We've we've spent the entire hard dictate together. Working in October was our tenth year anniversary of working primarily fighting so on two thousand thirteen wasn't really good here because it also had to prove without white man as both Wiedeman Anson's Rhonda came on the scene. I got I got bad memories for that person. You know who. Yeah no that was probably one of the better use you honestly. I feel like all the strong ears were Kinda early on those also to desert third scene was like last year we tain is like a dominant force. Because he'd be junior both times. I know until two thousand thirteen at Stuck my mind to it was the last strikeforce event. Yeah that's that's another Yeah Actually whatever year it was it was when strikeforce was Prior Right which I force sure got bought out by Zephyr Band County right before that era so time twelve thirteen. Yeah that was a good year because there was also ultra John Jones beach each. Show them right. Yeah Mood Twenty. Two twenty everything after that was downhill and that was also when they had the big event in Toronto. That's also the year ends in front kick tour. And we had the gray maynard frankie the The two matches that was a good year. What year was big debt? Three F C three. I think you not well. No she doesn't in big two thousand twelve evicted three. I'll find out for victory make department defined was in two thousand thirteen as low actually January four hundred thirteen I think for the decade in the three was two thousand twelve and get the four two thousand thirteen so dude hundred thirteen might be my favorite a year. Yes over us are kind of also two thousand eleven was the first ever foxfire. Hasn't the first couple of years boxcar cards really mattered. Remember the was the second one was the second Foscari the Chicago though. So let's fill dame's Rashad. It was it was loaded on on paper. It kind of kind of being no not entertaining. But they're on pay. I is is last midway when he lost a wide yet and then he dropped down and fought what what Donald candidate one forty eight or did he fight. Eric's I can't remember or story. One of those fights. Yeah so whatever. Two Thousand Twelve two thousand thirteen after that. Actually that was kind of Iowa I think about it a lot of like it was kind of a golden age. Not Between Two thousand nine in you know basically from like one hundred to one one of whatever the Anderson fewer of the grades like Fatos still doing things. The Andrew Young John Jones was had not gone to shenanigans yet he was that was two thousand eleven though that was John Jones saving people on the streets at Paterson New Jersey App Plate and watching fights from Japan as she still had two thousand eleven Jones that I think it's like the two thousand seven was that pride Romford that show them one to five yet. That was still vat for me was the greatest year for single fighter until John Jones Judas eleven and be deep Baiter Shogun rampage in. But you know on for all twelve months like those students like Noah's mass yet. No no yeah I agree. I agree that was. That was the best the best. And here's winning like dollar. He'd tapped crush homage. Shogun tapped baiter tax rampage. In the left Machida IPE. He sexually my last question because it's We've we've it's been our but I wanted to ask what's your favorite event of law. Second 162 was cool. That was a wineman because that had a lot of fights on that guard frank fought Charles Oliveira Tin candidate against Haji Gracie One fifty seven was fun that was Rhonda Karma Carnage for that also had like Machida and Oh and they had on one is a Mac Max macro against I guess from U. Two thousand one I liked that boxcar was using Fox. Seven San Jose with which is Bannon Gilbert at a loss stoppages because we left because it was a west coast Oh show in the summer so Galley Arena Alec Nine. PM Get one day and then people booed Benson Henderson during his well he proposal he proposed to his girl so when he just won a very controversial decision any closes girl in his opponents hometown of home town area as kind of Mama the UC one eighty nine a lot of people. That are the main card. Ever that had conner Mendez because it had to fly knees Gunnar Nelson tapping the the greatest fighter ever is the comb event conner Mendez because that premium wasn't that great outside of the map around two means fight one floors good that was a connor Aldo. Wiedeman rob sold holloway Stevens Romero Genre Joe Vibes good. That was stacked doc. I energy card. I'd say once sixty for me just because I was like ten feet away from Madison Nafta. That was crazy to see. We've got a couple votes for one eighty nine but yes all right and I think that's it for today. We got head over to the one real quick. What do you think is the knockout of the year this year? No I mean for the decade. Because like if you think about it we got Anderson Front kick got Hollywood again. Franchi Mazar does five second knockout. We got terry getting crushed by Barboza Holly Rhonda onto the deck. And I think it's one with that and the Anderson Percents. It's one of those I I don't think Donald's over cabinet I count every factor Kaunda upset factor. Innocent was a favor. Favor are ready a pretty heavy senior going next door. That's why I don't. That's why it isn't surpass to me. Just because it was expected night expected like that but the victory was expected. Go but Hollywood is the because that that that knockout still to me changed the world changed intimate change pop culture change. Change a lot of things Ed Francis and over it. That's all our does. Our is the newsroom demeaning connor knockout although did not name pop culture and they. They did it for sure did at that. I'm going to disagree with you if I sure did. I don't think it did as much Ronda. Losing nope remember remember we. I will say just in terms of like for It was Ronald. Ronda was more pop famous at that time in the in the sense that when we got into a taxi when we got back from Australia after that knockout it was all over the radio pop radio kiss. FM or something ran like the even. The driver was like asking us about it. Those are bringing last week tonight. Remember last night they were talking about just new shows like the economy was a giant like he's a celebrity has giant sports thing like the run. The knockout was in and it didn't change everything basically tired. After that you had five. She was done then you had you know she wanted to. WWE late change so many things. What about in terms of just crazy Nakasone Korean Zombie if you just knock independent what they are right then? Yeah Guy. You're handle and has been in. School doesn't nine ten seniors right. Yeah Yeah that was the other vote. We were getting one hundred and one eighty nine where where the two one hundred all right all right. Well I think that's a side this time we gotta go to Donald Workout. Say What is a Fan Hyun a thing like any user to forty four. 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