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Episode 22 - GUEST Mike Spivey, Favorite foods, Arco Arena and 2008 US Open

The Spivey Special Podcast

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Episode 22 - GUEST Mike Spivey, Favorite foods, Arco Arena and 2008 US Open

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We Have Papa Spivey. Mike Spivey is here with us on the PODCAST. How exciting hey. How's it going guys grab a beer first? Podcast I bid on was the first podcast. We've done so pretty exciting. It was our first guest of many. Hopefully people ever respond to our emails. But we're going to talk about food. We're GonNa talk about all our normal topics. Except now we have all Michael Allen Spivey Jordan the crew. We get a third spy with this. There's a little too many spy I think at this point. But we're GONNA see how it goes now dad. We always ask each other what we did this week. What did you have on this week's docket? Well I built a playhouse for the kids now. Is it for the kids or was it for you and mom actually? It's for Weston. It's Roseville. I'm going to rent it for sixteen hundred a month. Perfect finally get three rooms of stairs. Put him out where the turtles were probably GonNa need a roommate to afford that thing outside. I know I might get him a bell ring. It and we'll we'll hear from up in our room. Yeah those coyotes might go attack in the playoffs but I like it now. That's great you guys ready to get going to do it. I we're GONNA take a quick break and we were comeback with Fuqua files all rise. It's time for the food court files all right this week for food court files. We're GONNA do a little Q. And A. With Papa Spivey here and ask them about some of his favorite foods now. This is a first for us. Usually worthy one's talking about all the healthy foods and all that but now we're going to add our dad's perspective. Here go ahead. Shoot Dad the first question all right. What is your favorite Non Alcoholic? Drink while I have several of them but I would say number one. It'd have to be coffee full-strength starbucks black coffee black coffee right. Yeah Sugar high-octane Whatever. Can Jack me up and get me out of first gear. Just get that. Coffee was get it. Pop it and let's just get the crowd into what else you got for. Non Alcoholic. You can have one more. We'll let you probably diet coke. Same reason caffeine. Is there caffeine indict? Go Yes when I was in college. I didn't drink coffee it in like coffee so when I would cram for exams where you have to stay up to one or two to get everything in. I used to drink six packs sometimes eight diet cokes with the caffeine just to keep me up to cram. Now why diet coke regular coke or like Dr Pepper or mountain dew the calories. Of course I just want the caffeine not the calories. Exactly eight eighty one times one hundred sixty calories. That's over one thousand calories just to get your coffee replacement you gotTa Start Looking at all right now that we've done non alcoholic drinks dad. Hit us with your favorite alcoholic. Drink are you gonna be beer white red wine? Which what are you GonNa go with triple? Apa please now. There are certain one that you like. There are certain brewery or anything like that. I like them all very true. I like them. Hazy. Or whatever kind they are. I'm pretty sure every single time we go to a brewery you just look and you're like Oh what is that forty six percent. Yeah try that one. What I can't see through it all right. Let's try that. He goes to the alcohol by volume content or they eighty the like a cheap date would go through the prices at a fancy restaurant. Yeah I'll get the fifty dollar steak anything. Of course I will all right dead long day at work. All right. Mom doesn't WanNa Cook. You'RE GONNA stop at fast food on the way home for you and her. Where are you stopping? And what are you getting? Well I'd have to say normally it'd be Chick-fil-a I'll get the chicken club sandwich with fries. awful fries are really there. What's your dip that you get? What your choice. Nothing fancy just a little ones in the package. The honey Whatever they call it honey mustard. You get it up at the counter. You don't need the it's nothing fancy one now. I know you pretty well known you since. Let's see I was born. You're missing a pretty big fast food place mom love. Why AREN'T WE STOPPING AT DEL TACO? All yeah jail now but yeah DEL TACO. I love dill talker. Well there's probably chick-fil-a closer than del Taco. Probably on your way home. Yeah Yeah it's usually a little healthier to lowering Colorado. Yeah those fries it their the Dash Diet Coke your club sandwich with Mayonnaise or whatever it was on. That's okay it's all you said after a long day brain calories all right so it's your birthday you get to pick where you're going for dinner where you going well. I'd probably say 'cause I want to invite a lot of people probably Lucille's is pretty good because everyone likes that stuff thinking order they have fabulous barbecue. Now what is your order? Don't be ribs two kinds of ribs. Now what are your side's Gonna? Because that's my favorite world. Yeah usually baked beans and I forget. I forget all the other ones mashed potatoes. Baked Potato Baked potato. Probably yeah all right all right now. I see. You didn't say macaroni and cheese. Why do you hate macaroni? And Cheese gives the full rundown. Okay because you made the claim a couple years ago that you've never had macaroni and cheese reason. I don't like macaroni and cheese is because when I was a kid we used to go fishing up at big bear lake after they planted all the trout. All you had to do is put a piece of alvidi cheese on a hook and throw it eight feet off the shore. You could catch a fish every time so I've always thought VELVEETA. Cheese is macaroni and cheese in its fish bait and I don't eat fish bait same thing with Sushi Sushi fish bait that that raw stuff you put on a hook and you can't the sand shark with now. So do you put when you're at a Sushi restaurant? Do you ask for Velveeta cheese. Put It on a fishing pole than throw it at the Sushi. No but I always try to get chicken all right well. It's still your birthday all right. We're not going to go out this time. We're going to have a home cooked meal. You do the menu and you let us know what we're GONNA make well. My favorite home-cooked bill is chicken. Broccoli baked potatoes and we'd have angel food cake for the birth ticket like it. We've talked about cake a lot on the rocky road ice cream. Oh yeah that's a really good one really soaks up. And if mom had to make brownies we could throw a couple of those in there too. Why NOT SOMETIMES ONE DESSERTS? Just not enough now. What's the weirdest thing you've ever eaten? I've had weird things but probably frog legs would be weird. I up. Where did you have frog? Legs Frog legs. I had it. I was skiing up at Tahoe and we went to some fancy restaurant after skiing and this fancy restaurant had frog legs but I only will you order those just because this when we just throw down the credit card getting anything we wanted. Those are just appetizers or frog legs. Then we'd have steak and lobster. After I was really hoping that you said you went to a random pawn and through in some. They'll need a cheese. That's how you got the frog legs. But all right. I thought off off the POD. You said that you also had alligator. Where did you have? This alligator alligator would've been with my Stepdad Kelly. He used to eat all kinds of weird stuff. So that would have been at one meal that we had and that was on the menu and I probably didn't order it but I remember trying it. He he always ate really weird stuff he try anything once. I've had alligators fantastic. Yeah well you always you always get like the boar or anything that you're not supposed to order but they have it on there just for you. Kangaroo Jin Laurel Chinchilla whatever. Love a good porcupine. That's how he really good the crowd into it. Just find the cutest animal and give it to stick. That's long as it's not good for you. It's a healthy bunny pass is if there's like a vegetable squirrel pass now. Don't say squirrel. That's dad's favorite animal. No yeah all right. My favorite words the fanciest place you've ever eaten. What did you get? Probably Morton steakhouse went there San Diego and here in Sacramento usually always get a steak lobster and the whole works. We take our sales teams to the one here in Sacramento and get the. We'd have a private room in the back. With all the top producers. I remember our bills would be like four or five thousand dollars and we got out because they have anything and I was limited per person. They could only have two bottles of wine each person. That was the limit. It's amazing. This company doesn't exist anymore. Yeah no right now. We've got a few more questions for you for food because that's our favorite subject but what's the Best Taco you've ever had well? I'm I'm just going to go with Jim boy tacos. They're my favorite now. What's the thing about Jim? Boyce TACO? The really just peaks your interest. I love the shell. It's nice good flavor. And it's good for you. That's actually chicken tacos have low calories. Yeah the Parmesan cheese and Greece. They put on the show. That's have the grease it's healthy grease grease grease in your stomach. It helps slides down. I think they do that the fourth of July. When they eat the hotdogs they just dip the moist hot water. It's good for your teeth like charcoal and you total strength. Yeah all right now growing up with grandma early you probably eight some different things but what was the one thing you remember eating growing up that you don't eat any more than adult hamburger helper. That was our go to. We had always once a week but haven't had mom doesn't make hamburger helper warming now. I know you recently learned that it wasn't actually a vegetable. But what was the one vegetable you ate growing up? It was called cream corn and then I got into college and I took a nutrition class and found out that corn grain missing for nine hundred years my life. How did you make in one thousand nine years without eating ritual had cell with Bob's blue cheese dressing there you go? That's the healthy version of salad. Lots I did a boot with big boy. Blue Cheese dressing. I think you have the the boop boop cheese dressing on it all right. I think that's always got for food court files. We're GONNA take a quick break and we're gonNA come back with remember that thing. Let's take a quick Capri Sun in Orange slice break to talk about our sponsor popcorn? Look to the person on your left. Now look to the person on your right. Statistically both of these people have a podcast. Here's some cool stuff about pod cornell that can help you grow your show number one. They helped podcasters connect with sponsors for host read ads interview segments or Games. Or whatever. Fun Ideas you can come up with number two. You get to keep the rights to your show pod. Corn also helps make sure you're protected and compensated number. Three sounds like popcorn and we love popcorn. Click the link in the show notes to sign up for pod corn and start browsing sponsorship opportunities today. Hey remember that thing. The Moon Landing Jazz trapper keepers manners. Alf Sunny D. Yeah I remember those things all right for this week we are talking about Arco arena another Sacramento favourite another iconic stadium. That is no longer with us. Yeah no matter what I mean they tell me that the new ones called golden one by just call them all argo even when it changed the sleep train. It's just Arco to me. I always refer to it. As Power Balance Pavilion. That was my favorite terrible. And you're not very powerful so I'm GonNa say that's not right but let's go ahead and get in and dad you the only one of those three because neither of us were born. Did you go to the original ARCO ARENA? Yeah you sure did in nineteen eighty six. When Reggie theus that? He became the coach play. There I mean was playing. There is up here Interviewing for some jobs went to the game and it was really nice now. Not only that so. That was like a temporary stadium whether ability our go because yeah they moved in eighty five. It was like my high school stadium. I mean it was very personal but it was cool because you know it was really super loud and well the cool thing to probably about it was it was new. You're in a new city. The crowds just probably going nuts. Even though I don't think we were that good actually. That team wasn't too bad either. I remember like the baby blue short shorts of Reggie. Theus all those guys. I was worried that you were say. That's what you wore to the game. I'm glad it was on Reggie. Now also you also in that state and you also worked in that stadium. Yeah after they moved to the ARCO Arena Bat Old Arco Arena became a business complex and I worked for the money store there for a couple years remember. We drove by on the way back from a kings game and I was like. Why is there so many street lights? Parking lot is like Oh yeah. That's old Arco like what you would never know. I was thinking to myself. That's a lot of employees parking for that business. All right all right dad now Arco Arena. Memory what was the favorite game that you went to see because of you. That didn't know we had. Our family had two season tickets for almost ten years there at the ARCO Arena. What was a fair game you went to? I'd they had been game seven kings. I the Lakers. I mean we that year we were the second best team in the NBA and we were jettisoned. Its away from beating the Lakers. I mean Game Six. Coulda DID IT DOWN IN L. A. And then up there took them all the way to the over time and they had. Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe Bryant and we were like David Against Goliath. You know we were always this awesome game now. We went to a lot of games but we look back at those stats that game. You're talking about the Kings. Were Two of twenty three. That's ridiculous and they still made it to overtime. How crazy how close. Hopefully one day kings get back there. Yeah I think. The fans helped kept him. In that game it was so loud. The decibel level was like a Harley Davidson motorcycle. Ravin THEIR INS in the whole way. And when you look down on the court I swear you could see what the waves of the everyone yellen. It was like you could see the air movement. It was just. It was just the craziest so it was historic and we haven't even got close to that since then so now's Akkad. I went to quite a few games together but ZAC. What's your favorite memory of when we would go to games? Besides you dominating the whole thing and Nachos not share those are my Nachos. You picked pizza. My my favorite memory is when when we will. We would yell either way but when we had the lower level tickets which was later on once they became available. You and I would yell as loud as we could. Whenever there was a quiet moment in the game towards the bench to that they would try to bring in jerold walls. You gotTa Bring Joe Wallis. Said you'll be the saddest thing when we lost him to. What was it the bobcats doubt in the mask? Those one of the best mascots. I think we've probably ever had. Maybe the best mascot ever originals Lampson. I think the cool thing to about those tickets is they'd always drop. I don't know if you remember this dad. They'd always drop the thunder sticks. You get a bang those behind because we were behind the hoop. Yeah that was pretty cool thing all right dad one other game that you would mom went to then. Let's go to probably because you paid for the tickets was the first game ever for Lebron James. Now tell us a little bit about that game and did you know that. Lebron was going to be one of the best ever. Well I'll tell you what he dominated when he when he had the when he had the ball he could he would just come down and take one or two dribbles over half court and jump up and do a jump shot over everybody swish it for three points or if they tried to come out on him he just dribble right around and dunk Amman. I mean he was just so he was just so much better than all the other guys you could just tell he's going to be a star. I think my favorite play from that game is he has the wide open fastbreak dunk but he stops any. Throws the ball back to Ricky Davis who just like the big windmill dunk. It's like an iconic play from his first game. Well that's the cool thing about. Lebron is a lot of people. Say He gives up the big moments but at that age to have that much court awareness. Were I came average? You can go and probably do like a nine eighty or something. Dunk it but you're going to give it the old bear navis. I think that's pretty cool. Ricky Davis Baron and the guy was only what nineteen because he came out of high school and if that was his first was neat team he was eighteen. So here's an eighteen year old guy running down like the toughest man in the history of the world one dribble across half court jump shot over. Everybody Bom he could hit it from anywhere. Yeah Lebron he's good now. What's your favorite food? I know you're not too adventurous when we would go to the ARCO Arena. But what was your favorite food. Their Dad and Zach. I just get the biggest beer I could. And the biggest thing of popcorn was my. That was my Go-to 'cause I usually ate at del Taco on the way there or your favorite Taco ever Jim boy yeah. I think that I would think I would always get NACHOS. That was my Go-to and that's like your nacho liquid cheese and chips and then some you get some Jalapenos in the Nacho cheese and it was simple but it was great you put it on. A hug catch fish. My thing was the old personal pizza. I think it was round table or maybe square table. I don't know which one it was but also when we were upstairs when we were up by clap which we'll talk about in a minute we're right by the old garlic fries and we'd venture over those and one other thing I remember is the Diet. Coke just always seemed better there. I don't know what it was is probably because it was like forty eight dollars new enjoy better enjoy realize no ice day and don't spill a spill any of it. It's a buck worth now. There is a lot of things that happen at Arco Arena. Because that was really the only place in town for things to happen. What was your favorite non kings game memory there at our arena for me. It would have been. I went to a lot of different concerts and stuff but we went mom and I to see Eric Clapton and Eric Clapton is such A. I mean. He's such an expert guitar player and musician but I mean it was like He. He's a super. He's a superstar. Shot the share of did not shoot deputy but that guy could play guitar like nobody's business cocaine and Layla. Oh my gosh that guy just hit after. Hit that guy. What was your favorite? I think it was one we went to wrestling. And we got to see sting come down from the rafters because Argos an old school steam that has like the actual rafters at the top. There's only a few of those left where you can do that now. I have a lot of different ones. We actually played. There is a middle schooler a sellout crowd. There's like seventeen or eighteen people there but everyone got sick courtside which was pretty cool and one thing. I always remember is my best buddy Jordan. He was a ball boy for the Sacramento Knights. Kinda like he was for our basketball team in elementary school middle school. So I remember going to a lot of Sacramento Knights Games Zach. Tell us about clapping and signed guy. One of these people signed guy is like a staple of our arena. If you've been to enough kings games back in the day. He make these custom signs that he was hitting the top deck in the front row and he put him over the plexiglas. They're during like timeouts and stuff Now the signs. They didn't always make sense. He would try to rhyme it or something but he was like the worst poet in the history of the world. It's pretty pretty accurate. And then he he had a dispute with ARCO ARENA. Like he thought he was a staple of the stadium like try to get free tickets out of them and then they just like didn't renew his tickets. Now have signed. Girl sits like the same SPA. It's like a spin off. It's like boy meets world now. What is it girl meets boy? Or that's basically where we're sitting at. Now we went to a lot of events at Arco but dad tell them where we parked we parked in one spot. Always we pulled. We did a poll through where all I had to do is take sharp left and then. I'm out of the parking lot and down towards the freeway. So we're never in traffic now spivey's we don't move very quick but when that final Buzzer Bluey kings games. I think dad you might be the fastest Fast Walker I've ever met in my life also another thing that we did as we were walking now no matter meters me and mom or whoever went between the four of us is as we're walking out it'd be so packed on the Concourse Dad. Todd is the mood like we're cattle. So everyone's quiet walking out and all of a sudden a random move. That's another memory. I have old Arco Arena. A would have another memory of walking out dad and I went to the game. We did our possession math into the game. Without the king's we're going to loose they were down like eight with thirty seconds left or something. We'll get in the car and turn on the Radio. And they cut it to. And we're like no they're still gonNA lose and we started driving away and the game goes to overtime. We were too far to come back to grab. Would they even let you back in at that point? I don't know that they would. They ended up losing in overtime. So I don't feel bad about as you know that's why I remember. During that time there was one time we did the same thing. Mom and I. It went into double overtime. We got home and watch the end of the game. That's one thing about spivey's if you notice we're really good losers. We always stay no matter what the end of the game. I think. That's all we have on our Korean Zakar Dad. Do you have anything else that we didn't talk about cloudy. Oh Yeah don't don't dismiss the cloudy so there was a gentleman. We we sat up stairs to twenty two to twenty row K. And think sixteen. Seventeen something like that. I'll seats so there's this this mom this son and there's a the sun is clapping. He was the one of the best he would dance. They'd put signs up. That say stopped when we were on Defense. And all these different things but clapping. He was a staple ARCO Arena. His name was not clapping back because he's always cloud else. Refer to him as clapping except us. Well Bursar fake name so it lasts forever and the last Kings Game Maman high or watching Jerry Reynolds and I had a clap e signing citing he came right there and I pause even have it on my phone I showed you. It was like eleven o'clock at night or some. You're sending this clap your but he was a true fan club. Great Fan every game. They were there a lot of good memories in that stadium. We haven't really gone to golden one as much as we should. I still mad at the teams. I've only been there a couple of games into one. I think it's just different downtown. I mean the good thing about Arcos out in the middle of nowhere. You actually had a parking lot. You want to go into parking garage and all that the cross of two giant freeways out but we'll eventually get back there at. King's you're playing real good right now. I think they've won nine of the less thirteen or something like that helps if you make the playoffs and you're not always talking about. Oh I hope the number eight seed we lose five games. We get like four three or four or two seat or something like that. I think is something you always say. You got to be asleep to dream system slash long. Yeah from that. I think we're dreaming right now. All right I think that's all we got an ARCO Arena. We're GONNA take a quick break and come back with sports job. Sports job with the SPIVEY BROTHERS CUBS. Good get the ball to big country. Generic soccer take all right. That's enough I'm out of breath all right this week for sports jog. We're talking about another one of our favorite sports memories and that is the two thousand eight. Us Open the Gulf One. Not Tennis. We don't watch tennis. And this took place at Torrey Pines in San Diego now. This is a little less painful than the Robert Ory shot. So we're able to talk about and we won't be crying about it afterwards but Zac Dad you to tell me about the US Open in two thousand eight at Torrey Pines because you both were their dad. What are your thoughts on the course? That course is tight if you have a wayward drive you're in a bunker. The rough is nasty. I mean you have to be so strong to get the ball out of there whether it's on the ocean you think. Oh Sunny San Diego but man when that in the afternoon when the breeze I mean we were. We'd love to have jackets. I mean it got really cold but I mean that's a that course is long old school raf the Greens are all kind of elevated. So you've gotta hit the Green. Greens really weren't that big. And if you miss them you get them into bunkers. I mean it's one of the tougher the par-five coming back in the tea boxes up over by the cliff where you're overlooking the beach. The tee box that they added for the US Open is the furthest back. I've ever seen a t six fifteen. Yeah it were five in insane it was like eighty yards back from the next closest T. They like there's a hill we're going to put a new. T. Box and you had to hit it. Carey was to sixty over the Branko. Or you ever in the junk so you better get your game going now. Those of you listening. You're like Oh what are they talking about? The two thousand eight. Us Open for well. We're going to get there but this is the one. The Tiger Woods limped to and eventually one after ninety one holes. But just so you guys know. That's the one that we're talking about and up until last year of could've been tigers last major. Yeah that's right. This was right before the the incident with the car crash in the all the other stuff all the shenanigans so I was thinking man. I'm I'M A guy. Saw the last major for Tiger Woods. It was what eleven years and then he finally won another major. Now another cool thing about this memory for me is this was so we went to the. Us Open with Grammar Erlin. Kelly where I did a lot. I think I went to four five with them. This was the last one that we went with them though. Right Now you were saying that. They probably they win every year. Almost I think they kept going. I just had a job. I couldn't yes they did now. Zac We have Downer notes. Hang Glider guys. Why don't you tell the crowd a little bit about what hang glider guys men's so there's two really weird things about the golf course that sticks on Dad tells the story about the other one. One of them is overlooking. We'll both of them are overlooking the cliff. The first one is that right next to one of the holes. I think it's on the front nine. You see the guys come in with their cars in their hang gliding year and they just get a running start and jump off this cliff over the ocean and then they're just hang gliding around and they land on the beach right over the golf course and really unique. You don't see I've never seen it at a golf course before for sure. Now your favorite part dad you were telling us there in La Hoya there. There's a little beach called black speech and it's a Nudie beach so if you WanNa get Uber noculars and look down and Giggle a little bit. You can't earl is probably like what are you bringing ocular? But the only problem is there's not supermodels at the beach check. These are all people with alligators skin. You don't WanNa look at it. No it's kind of like looking at Zack. And as you're gonNA pass on now what can you do? Once they're about sixty. They have enough guts to go nude you know. And that's what you get right so now back to the two thousand eight. Us Open here. You guys went to two practice rounds in the first two rounds of Golf. Turmeric gives us a little field of those four rounds. You guys went to the practice rounds. Were really fun now. What we would go. Those are the most fun times the players the most relaxed. There's not as many people there they are the Lychee. Get RIGHT UP. Close you get autographs but you can see how they practice to. Which is Kinda crazy watching? Tiger Woods will throw like a hundred golf balls in a sand trap and his cat. He'll come over and he'll step on them and he'll practice like that kind of weird next level stuff that you don't see people do got some cool autographs. I think Western was there with us and he was young enough for US getting all of them. That was at Olympia fields. Western got Ken. Perry's ball autograph ball and one and then one thing you know people on TV watching TV. And they're going all the guys in the Roth. We took a full swing and all he got three feet but when we go to the US Open we watch these guys hit twenty of them out of rough. That's a foot thing in the practice area so they practice it every day of their lives so to us. It's like Oh man. How do you pull that off? But we know how he does it because they practiced doing it. S A cool thing. I mean you look at the caddies in those huge books. They have like well. How do they have all these books? For one practice rounds in for to all the different times that caddies been at that course they have. All the yard is all this all that. Did you go to the gym this morning? Yeah you did okay. Well then you should a seven hundred and eight or something like that. It's crazy the business. One of the best Times there at Torrey Pines the putting green. Us spectator can come up and watch the PROS. Get pretty close and I used to watch tiger woods. He would do this one hand with his right hand putting thing where he only uses right hand and do these putts eight-footers like not one or two like fifty of them and make like forty nine out of him so always at US Open. See how they're practicing. Then I'd go home on my putting green and I would do the same little techniques that they do and it. It helped a little bit. Yeah that's why we all love. Y'All I'm still a handicap it. Hey probably all call you tiger woods all right so this. Us Open two thousand and is probably one of the most memorable US opens in at least my memory. But KINDA ZACH. We break down how this two thousand eight ended to get two extra time. So it's kind of a weird ending to it like tigers in the hunt. You just assume that he's going to run away with it but the course was playing so hard. On that Sunday there was only a couple tigers knees busted. He's like hobbling around and can barely walk. So you should be running away with now is just trying to survive through the end of the round. He's limping away with it. Yeah if he was a football player they would have pulled about the game and wouldn't have led to played on Sunday or Monday. He'd be in the medical tent. Put it in the medical tent normally when you see a final couple of groups of Rocco mediate and Lee Westwood and Tiger Woods. You're like I'm not even going to watch this because it's over but tigers hobbling around. He's he's barely going to make it through this thing. Rocco mediate has a pretty good stretch down the end. He finishes the group ahead. He's got a one shot lead going into eighteen which was a par-five which we've been watching all week because that was the best whole. Sit at now. You guys are at home at this point because what you guys did. Is You sold the tickets for round three and Ford pay basically for your whole trip so you went for four days and you paid for nothing because you sold the round three and four. So we're sitting in the Living Room at Dad's house and you guys were watching this on. Tv whole eighteen one-stroke difference between the top three players in this tournament. Yeah so it's Lee Westwood in Tiger in the final group. They're both on and regulation. They both have less than twenty foot Birdie putts and we're saying what are we going to do of one of them makes it because of the? Us Open? It's not like we're GONNA play one playoff hole for some of the major three plath. Us Open's like not we're playing a whole nother round and it's the next day so Lee. Westwood Miss His hip his PUTT. I tiger comes up. Thirteen foot or nails. It in the crowd. Goes Wild Dad? What's your reaction because we are holding onto the Monday tickets because you can't sell the Monday tickets because they're not worth anything unless there's a tie all I know is I looked around the room and I said I got by Monday tickets but the problem in two thousand eight. It was a tough time. It was like the mortgage meltdown. Nobody was making any money. So I- everyone's looking around Chris and the other people said I don't care about anything just google. You'll regret this if you don't go you had the tickets you're guys are gone. So we got the earliest flight out of Sacramento. It was I think like five thirty. Luckily I've been there to the course so I knew how to you know to park. Get in and all that so we get there. I get a rental car. We get up there. I think they started around. Nine o'clock we got there and it was awesome night. We walked every hall. One thousand nine holes. It was awesome. Now it's crazy. It's extra holes eighteen extra holes but then it goes to a nineteenth but the way it got there was pretty crazy. Zack so zack. I'll kind of tell it. So Rocco media gets a one-stroke early in the match and then we hit the turn after nine holes of these extra eighteen tigers up three. And you're like little flip game over this just done. Let's just turn it off and look somewhere else and here comes old man. Rocco just playing out of his mind. So we're through seventeen holes. Rocco's up by one so in eight holes. He gained four strokes on tiger and he is just feeling good. And then we're going into eighteen tigers down one. This is pretty similar to how it was in round. Four Tiger gets to eighteen Rocco Pars all tiger has to do is Birdie and he comes up and he birdies it so eighteen extra holes. We're already ninety holes in this tournament. Broad tight again. So now we're GonNa go to whole seven par for Dad. What happened all Rocco Gut? He hooked into the bunker got in the bunker and didn't get it anyway. It was all over. Once he got into the bunkers tiger. Just probably hit a two iron striped it. Right down the middle. And but that I'm telling you those nineteen holes like there were two groups of people. There were the tiger fans and the guys forty and over. That was me so all of us old guys we wanted Rocco it was like a Rocco thing and we were all charged up like through the eighth the ninth hole and they kept it. He got three down. We were all kind of depressed. And we're following him. And then all of a sudden Bomi Wins one hole where we get more encouraged and another one. Another one he goes eight was just. It was just was just so much fun. Never you'll never forget that it was so much fun. Talk to us about what it's like being on a golf course. Watching two people play golf. And there's twenty thousand people there watching these two people playing golf well. Luckily I was there for four days with you you and I we walk that whole chorus probably two or three times so I knew the advantage points that I could go to to see it. I mean with twenty thousand people. It's sixty six deep. I'm six feet. But a Lotta guys watch it. If they're even taller than me all the guy you went to Burg. What was he like five to if he jumped now. He said he was five seven. But I measured in my office. I had a ruler up there. He didn't know I'm there. That's very surprised at your last name. Should be Michael Scott Michael Spivey. Okay keep going. Yeah so you're at this. You're like five six rows deep so I knew where to run up to like you know like the one seventy mark or whatever. So I'd say Brian Come on man. Next whole we'd run up ahead and we get to where we just be one or two deep because a lot of five six deep those guys really did know where the little tern points were and where you could do it so the whole thing I mean. We got to solve the tee shots. Come we got to see him. Hit Him. We knew where to run and get the advantage to watch the whole now of all the golf tournaments you've been to this has to rank number one. All that was. Yeah that bad nine thousand nine hole. Play-off I'll never. Yeah I'll never forget that. Plus I've played Torrey Pines south a couple times and I heard that if you played tiger you would've won because you birdied seventeen and Marie. Yeah Double Bogeyed. Every other hole birdie seventeen and eighteen. The last time I played their Scott one hand practice Putz tagger. That's why you got there all right. I think that's all we got for the. Us Open any final thoughts. I think that's all I know. That's I mean that kind of wraps it up it will also what a memory though I mean at that point after everything that happened tiger. You're thinking that's the last major. He's ever going to win but again I don't think he's human so he comes back. Wins one eleven years later. But we think he's GonNa get knee surgery and he's going to miss a month or two and then he's GonNa come back and keeping tiger and any surgery back surgery girlfriend problems all kinds of things waffle house girls everything good syrup all right. I think that's all we got. We're GONNA take a quick break. We're going to do a quick ask a spivey since we have a third spivey with this week and then we're going to wrap up. Do you like the sweet taste amount do. Do you like your vodka to be both inexpensive and flavored like melons. Then we got a beverage for you. From the minds of the host of the wildly popular podcast that shares. Its name we bring you the Spivey special one part mountain dew. Three to four parts Burnett's watermelon one hundred Percent Fund. Drink one at your next party or at three. Am playing halo three please enjoy responsibly. You've got questions. We've got man boobs directly from our listeners. We bring you ask a spivey all right we're bringing back. Ask us by or just going to do a couple of quick questions just to Kinda round out the show. So we're GONNA start out with this one. Serve with you dad. What was the best concert that you've been to? I know you've been to a lot of really awesome. Once I'd have to say number one would've been in the late seventies at the La Forum. I saw led Zeppelin and it was awesome. Maybe it was. That was a cool ban during my time but still what I hear was led Zeppelin songs. The new kids they can't they can't even compete with him. I mean when they perform it was so dramatic it was just oh man. It was good. It was really awesome. How good was stairway to heaven? It was just. It was awesome because as a kid younger than that. Those that's like the when you're at the dance stairway to heaven that's like the slow song dance the thirteen fourteen year old girls and everything. So it's a very long slow dance. Yeah I but anyway. It was led Zeppelin. I mean I. You probably can't see him now back in those days. They've done a concert in like in the late seventies man. That was a prime concert. It was unreal now ZAC. What's your best concert? Only been to four and I don't know that I've seen anyone in their prime. We'll go through all four and I'll tell you what my favorite is so first concert. I went to Nick. Fogel and his mom we saw Casey in the sunshine. Bannon Lake Tahoe. Only Casey is the remaining band member of the whole sunshine. You don't need the Sunshine Band because Yeah Casey looks like he ate Casey from the Seventies. So you could relate. Yes perfect yes. I had my boogie shoes going. I saw earth wind and fire fantastic. Probably the best concert that I've been to best bass player. All of them were still there all the more still live. It was before the lead singer died a few years ago. So fantastic concert. Their Bass player is I could just watch him. Just do things like go to. The supermarket would probably be entertaining. I saw journey. But that was Steve. Perry was with the guy. That's the little Asian Guy. That sounds like Steve Perry. He's good thick thick. Nineteen Eighty Steve Perez Gates uncanny. Good concert and then I saw kiss ever really field. I'm sure dad is also seen kiss. I don't know that they had a prime because I don't think anybody five I don't think they're music's very good but it was super entertaining to watch other people at the kiss concert now for me. I've been to two concert unless you count the one. That's in the fountains really good seventies band. There had some jacker Ba- needs beforehand. I saw Koby Calais as a little bubbly but I mean what can you do we were in the VIP out there? The rush part got pretty wild. The other one I went to thankfully my best friend Jordan. These tickets for his girlfriend then they broke up. I'm pretty sure and we ended up being the DVD's result babysitter at Gwen Stefani and a con. So that was pretty wild. Those are the only two. I've really been to Sarah. I know we plan on going to a lot more soon. Yeah I don't know why we haven't been to more concerts like well. You can hear the ones that thunder from your backyard. Oh that is true. I did when we first moved into her house. You can during the summer. They had the outdoor concerts so that sound travels pretty well. I don't know if you guys can hear it at your house. I think it travels more towards my house but we were. We're outside. We just got home. Anals like WHO'S LISTENING TO FIESTA? By R Kelly at this level. We're KINDA WEIRD. Party is this and then we. We realize we went back inside. It was actually R. Kelly appointed thunder by all right. So let's move on to the second question here for the old. Ask Us by the DAD. You raised three boys but you are a little bit younger. You're twenty five when you had accu and mom. She was younger than that. But twenty two. What was the biggest change in your life when you I have a kid? I think the biggest Changes your priorities change. At the time I was kind of Gulf Hall I Played Golf. Work and play golf. There was only a few courses. He had to get down there at four in the morning to get on the list play. I played it. Ansell Hoffman once. You have a kid. I mean your priorities. Change so Gulf wasn't such a top thing you know it was it drops down and I think you're a as you have kids you become a father grandfather. Whatever everything changes where you put the family up above your own things like golf and now Zac. You and I both have young kids. What was the biggest change when you have the heart bounce stor? I think it's the same thing it's really aligning. What your priorities are your weekends change like. He said we're not playing golf every week anymore. Somehow I'm getting better golf when we only played three times a year though. I don't understand how that works. I just think because you're in peak physical condition that can't be but yeah I think it's just you do things for the kids. Go to fish hatchery and you go to whatever weird things that you can go to for the kids instead of like. Hey let's go on a dude's fishing trip this weekend or whatever I just think having a little one just kind of opens your eyes to like kind of like you guys said I mean you would basically do anything to see that little one smile or have a good time. You're doing crazy things like watching baby shark on replay for sixty straight minutes and join it and singing it the whole way and just you find this energy that you never thought you had you come home from a hard day at work and you're playing peekaboo for ninety straight minutes just because you watch your little one laugh and I think the thing about being a parent that a lot of people don't get until you actually have. The kid is just the way they make you feel and how you WanNa act around them just kinda changes who you are and I think makes you a better person in the long run and you have a little person there that appreciates the weird faces that you make yourself in the mirror. Just try to make yourself laugh in the morning when you're getting ready. Maybe that's just me but you have a little person that appreciates those weird faces and funny things that you do are dancing in a weird way that you only do watching. This little person thinks it's hilarious weird face. I think that's just your face. That's what I like about young people is they think I'm funny. Everybody else does it big. Oh God there was a bad joke but the little kiss cracking up. I'm being goofy. That's very true. You Wanna go ahead and shoot out the last question here. So there's all kinds of crazy stuff going on right now with the economy. Now one thing I do here is the rates. Are Crazy low right. Now you've been doing it forever. Talk US through this tax through for radio well. The way rates work A ten year Treasury note is an index so when that index goes up and down interest rates. Go Up and down this crazy ten year treasury with the corona virus. And all this other stuff you was at around one point seven. It's usually around two one point. It's at one point two right now. The interest rates are historic lows. I mean I'm blocking Jumbo LOANS THREE POINT. Two five on thirty year fixes. I've never seen it. I've been doing mortgage for thirty plus years so I mean if you're going to buy a house or refinance a house I mean now's the time to do it when the ten year the ten year treasury notes so low because you're going to get the lowest rates in lock in those low rates for a long time. I know you mentioned this to me and Sarah. We just honestly we just refinance. I think we dropped almost a whole percentage point. Maybe a percentage point a half on our refi so definitely now is the time if you're Lookin' and the mortgage game is hot right now. So get out there and go ahead and refi if they want to get in contact with you. What number do they need to reach out to nine one six nine one five two nine seven five now? That's Michael Spivey with safe credit union. His banks out in Folsom but it doesn't matter where he is because he'll be able to help you out absolutely. I think that's all we got for. Ask US by. We're going to go home and wrap up the show. We had a fun time with our. I live in studio guest. We've got a little editing to do. Because he likes to talk with his hands slash shadow box with the microphone. Yeah Mike Tyson be like well. That's some good form. You have there Mike Spivey. What can you do also go ahead and follow us at Spivey special on Instagram facebook twitter. We're just out there and we're waiting for you guys to follow us. Yeah Chat while the new episode posted here pretty soon. But you're listening to it so you know that it's there. We have a live show planned for next week. We have some other guests lined up. We're going to post those on our social media's let you know who got coming into town it's GonNa be hard to follow the old Mike Spivey but we're going to do our best to try to find someone who can all right. I Got Yeah Zach. You're fat you're fat. You're both fad later.

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EP. 421 - Power Project Stoicism

Mark Bell's Power Project

1:32:15 hr | 11 months ago

EP. 421 - Power Project Stoicism

"Hey everybody. Welcome back to mark Bells Power Project PODCAST hosted by Mark Bell Co hosted by seeing himself. Andrew Zaragoza this episodes recorded on August twenty fourth and it is with just the power project crew in today's episode in preparation for Ryan Holiday which we have on the upcoming episode the actually episode following this one Ryan holiday of course, is an author and has. Written and done a bunch of stuff on stoicism. Awesome prep for that. We actually talked all about stoicism today a couple of STOIC quotes that we like a couple of things that we implement every single day and just overall the impact that stoicism has had on us and what it can have on you guys. So short and sweet today. So without further. Ado. Ladies. And Gentlemen please into this episode with Mark. Bell ENCIMA. Yang. Myself. Andrew Zaragoza talking all about stoicism right now as athletic like Lebron right or. Any of these other crazy dudes, but he just has such amazing fundamental since he's been playing pro for. So long right he's crushing everybody I'm happy that the that there's some sports going on now like I'm not I'm not too caught up in what it says on the court and what people are wearing and stuff. I just don't I, don't really care I'm just pump that there's some basketball on male I like watching sports. And then frustrated because the kings passed on Luca know yeah he's a be. That's okay. We got Marvin Bagley alway he's always hurt. Food the Kings have bad. Mojo, they really knew. You Pass on that he's going to be one of the greatest players of all time. He really will be hindsight's always twenty twenty Joe Klein over Karl Malone I mean the list goes on and on Bobby Hurley and number seven th pick. Lionel Simmons. Had opted with your heart. Yeah. These are all picks that I had high hopes for that ended up being. ANYWAYS, Bobby. Hurley got like he got hurt or something like something horrible. Happened to me might motorcycle. That's different kings player note that So I think because he was amazing. Yeah he was extremely great in college, and then when he got to the pros he he's showed a lot of promise but back in those days at Arco Arena before NATO miss before that whole area was just like dirt roads and something happened to where he ended up like upside down in a ditch and there was water inside ditch, and so he only like almost didn't make it and then after that, he was never the same player again. Unfortunately, it wasn't it kind of confusing back then because wasn't her black Jason Williamson White Jason Williams so. There was a there is Jason Williams at played for the nets and then our Jason Williams. and. The Jason Williams played for the Kings was like eminem kind of. Yeah. And then and then one of the Jayson Williams I think he ended up dying unfortunately the I think he had a motorcycle accident something like that to right and look that one of I'm not sure. I don't really super confused on what happened all these something happened to him. I WanNa say like maybe he got in trouble with the law to I'm not one hundred percent sure. I'M GONNA pray for Tom After his podcast this imagine that there is too much motorcycles. Yes. True. Is a black and white mark. Bell. Or Black and white insieme. Saudi. Multi versus probably I mean the name Mark Bell. Black Mark I could I could Google search on facebook Too. Yeah There's a few female encinas. Is there a black mark bell and powerlifting though I guess I be question right now might be that'd be hard goods common. Yeah. Please right in right out mark. Appreciate it. There might be yeah like a couple but like if you google search them. Mark Bell powerlifting matter where They're way too far down in the search result guys remember the Black Tom Cruise on instagram yes. Sounds familiar. He was Shit who is he? He was lifting now in New, York with Larry. Larry Wheels. Yeah. Yeah beyond my wife was like his look Tom Cruise. I'm like, no, his name. His. Actual name is Tom Cruise. She's like, oh She's like, but Tom, cruise's name isn't really. I know, Oh, Tom Cruise his name he's got some weird name I think. Jaakko willing name isn't actually Jaakko I thought it was John. I. Thought that forever to, but then I yeah, more recently somebody who's telling me. What is his name James? Some something I don't know starts at the J. though I I just I'm sure he's Super Nice but like he seems terrifying, right? John Brennan. Willing. There you go. John. Britton willink. That's yeah that's a good. I mean he's big and he knows everything about like fighting and war and I mean, he seems intimidate and he seems really freaking smart to yeah. He really is he rougerie's now week? No I know Rogin talks about how the? Broke somebody's neck. Rolling or something like that people were like, yeah the he. They're like don't just don't roll with him. He's like he's like he's like a solid to forty something again I'm sure he's Berry de seems like he's very nice I guess. Don't roll. Them. Literally. He can kill you in many different ways like he's adept with dazzling. That's not good. Now. Ron Panic and kill people in a bunch of different ways to, but he's just not as big and menacing. He's menacing in certain ways when you speak to him. He he's super cool. But you get this feeling like he's thinking things like, yeah of all the ways he can hurt me he's thinking he wanted to kill you. That was weird. When he's talking about flexibility. Blow your brains super. Flexible. Why don't we gotTA kill insieme for the demonstration I don't understand. That was pretty crazy. Do you remember when necessary do you remember when Phil Heath? Phil Yeah though he looked at me and he thought he was GonNa kill me that was really scary. What happened you were like taking video he was I. I won't take too much. We're just. Him and mark we're working out me and Chris were doing media. And then I think we're just talking about fans how like sometimes they dislike won't get it and he like he he's like sometimes after turn and look at them and you know his freaking bright green eyes he's like say listen and he puts his hand on and I'm like Oh shit he's really going into character. I. Shook up because here's this. Shit. Marcotte it right away to he starts laughing house like oh There's nothing I, can do. Yeah. His eyes get wide before person. So that like two feet from your face, like why me what did I do wasn't? Maybe. My flashes bothering him. Yeah. I've done that with some fighters before just to kind of like see like all Cisco like toe to toe like doing the pictures. nope. Yeah. It's a bad idea they stay right into your soul. Burn a hole in it and it's like, oh no. I shouldn't have done that. What am I doing? They're gonNA kill me. Kick me upside my head. Yeah. Thanks. Sick. They everybody for checking out the the livestream today Bono's is in the house. Yeah Godwin. Chat. Out To those people's. But what you guys have your minds today but we got Ryan holiday coming up. So and brought up that we should maybe talk a little bit about stoicism kind of. Elite into that. I think later this week actually the next day I think we have Lane Norton and And we got shoot missing missing his first name Feldman. Is I know the cholesterol guy name will pop up in my head at some point? but be a great podcast as well because we can talk a lot about damn Dave fell Venero we could talk a lot about You know how much influence it has if he don't overeat on impacting your health impacting your your lipids because Dave knows pretty much everything about. US everything about lipids I mean just about. So I think he'll give us some really good information. He's done all kinds of weird tests where he's like eating bread for five six days straight or eaten like not just bread, but he's eaten like a lot of bread. Like a few thousand calories worth of bread leading into a lipid profile and it just it can throw away off from what I remember I. Think his cholesterol goes way down. And So he just tries to show how how jacked up it can be. Your cholesterol can be really jacked up if you're fasted adverse if you're not fasted so he can give us all the details I know he's also eaten like. Four hundred grams of fat for five or six days. Straight kind of see what the impact was on his he's had he's had his own blood work done like I don't know two, hundred, three, hundred times. So, and then also he he he's not just doing that but he's a researcher and he has like a he and other colleagues or like research and some stuff. So I think it'd be really cool because I think it's just such a misunderstood category. And maybe we can find out what the hell means. That self experimentation. So it's really interesting like every individual has their own reactions to stuff like that like people respond very differently but it's still useful in and of itself had you know if he's done like big group research like what I know that? So I know like He'll be able to answer a lot of this when he's on the show. So I know that he encourages people to do stuff with him. And they do Whether or not it's like clinical and like really you know subject to a lot of criticism in terms of People being held accountable for the exact protocol of they're following and so forth I'm not sure but I know like going into like a A seminar symposium type thing these low carb events that he goes to he'll say like a doing this for the next twenty days like who's in who wants to join in and he'll just collect as much data as he can. Even, if it's like you know maybe it's not. maybe it's not the greatest way to collect some data, but he he does. So through some of that as well. So. Yeah I. Think it's I. Think it's GonNa be really interesting. We've got Lane Norton kind of on the other side of things where you know lane obviously is. Insanely. Intelligent knows ton about nutrition and his The Lane that he is enormously is usually in reference to caloric intake, and so it'd be cool to know you know if we. If we're not going over calories which I think it would be really hard if we try to do that with junk food but if we weren't going over our calories how much damage how how dangerous is it? Really you know? Is it really dangerous thing or is it really I? Don't even know if any if either one of these guys I actually would like bet my life on it that neither one of them have the actual answer because we just don't really we don't really know. but I would assume that it probably just not that it doesn't matter but it's probably There's probably so many factors involved in that that it'd be hard to really tell or safer. Sure. Any which way. But I think we'll learn a lot and then yeah, having Ryen holiday on I think is going to be great because we hear a lot of people talking about stoicism and philosophy in. How to approach and deal with things a little bit better. in this day and age, and I think I want to say that I, I would have to credit my buddy. Just because I'm impartial. But I'd half the credit tim ferriss whether they think pop the ball up in the air. That's where I heard it. Kinda Kinda I he now like a couple years back and then Ryan holiday, and there's been a bunch of other people to. The Ted talks, I mean Ted if you guys haven't listened to some Ted talks. I really suggest that you do. So I mean just you know honestly just look up just go onto youtube and type in stoicism. And washed the first two or three videos of pop-up it'll either be some sort of Ted talk or Ted Education type thing, and it's great videos gives great insight. Sometimes, they're only just a couple minutes sometimes, it's a speaker. Like Ryan holiday but. Yeah I'm excited to talk to Ryan holiday I think maybe one of the one, one of the fun things get into is what are some of the Maybe things that people are missing when a hear about stoicism because. Stoicism is to represent kind of an kind of more even mind. that you everything is open to how you interpret it how you how you take it in. So nothing is really necessarily good or bad. We can make sense of that and we can say, yes, there are is good and bad you know but. It's it's ultimately what you end up dealing with whatever this information is the IGA or whatever it is. That has happened to you. Because we know people that have been abused as children. and. We know that they have. ended up in drug and alcohol facilities we know that they've or maybe they repeated the same thing but we also know people that are. Movie Stars based off of that experience or they're just You know they live live a normal life. They're super happy. They're super content with everything that's going on in their life, and so it's all everything that happens to us. Whether is whether you've viewed as good or bad It's your own mindset that. MAKES IT SO No like when you mentioned temperatures name that's why I heard from to initially from one of his podcasts and then I started trying to dig in on it and I think you know when you mentioned having that even mind one thing that. When I initially started trying to learn about it. I got wrong about it initially was not just being kind of even Keel but almost I ended up going on the side of just not letting things affect me in a way. So I I ended up going towards the colder out bright and that's not necessarily how it's supposed to be. It's not supposed to be that you're cold and indifferent your stone block and nothing ever gets you or whatever, but it's just. Allowing yourself to feel certain ways but not necessarily I. Guess Reacting and judging yourself for these feelings coming up more. So being aware like did something when someone says something did it How did it make you feel and what's your reaction? Could it be because it's your reaction to that that matters? Okay. You're. What your your significant other says something to you. You might feel a little bit angry about it might make you feel something initially. But how are you going to respond? Are you going to respond in a massively over the top emotional way? Are you going to let it sit and try to respond intelligently to the situation trying to see exactly what happened here and respond accordingly So I took I took that initially in the route of just not carry which you're not supposed to do. Yes. Can you don't WanNA stuff down emotion In a lot of studies that they've done over the years on emotions and the role of emotions I mean people still don't really know. There's so much stuff that we don't know about our own minds and stuff it's hard to figure it out but. seems like that without emotions, it'd be really hard to make decisions. and. So it's it's kind of an interesting thing because of decisions that we make are based on emotions, but emotions can be. they. Can. Be. I mean some people would go as far to say that all emotions are irrational but. I don't know if I'd go that far because I think that there can be some rationality to the emotion because it can be based off of previous information that you had. Like A computer you're kinda reading it and you're interpreting it and you're like, this is my best interest. So I'm going to decide to do this and then there's even some people that you know going beyond the scope of this podcast that will say you don't have free will control over any of it, which is another topic probably for another day with a much smarter guests than anybody that we have in the room. But Anyway, you know that's that is the role of emotions as they they without them you stuff them down too much Maybe you're missing out on life and maybe you're missing out on the part that makes us human because that's that is the part that we don't know. We don't know for sure about animals That's that's another topic for another day probably but it seems like like it it appears that humans have more. Choices than animals though, yeah and see my can real quick to pull the mic from a little bit closer to you because I moved everything around got. Yeah. But along the lines of what you're saying you know about like not necessarily caring less but as somebody who. I've been anxious before I have dealt with that, but have also been very pessimistic. So I would look at things sort of like all the Internet's probably GonNa go down today and the livestream streams can get cut blow like whatever it may be. Now it's like because of stoicism it's like, okay. The Internet's probably going to go down how can we fix that the conversation you know whatever might go this direction which I'm not very familiar in. So maybe I'll prepare for that so. It's sort of like I can't exactly put it into perfect words but kind of like expecting the unexpected but expecting the worst of all things so that we can deal with that and prep for that, and then when it doesn't go that bad, it's like Oh, shit that wasn't as tricky as I thought it was gonna be yeah or having no expectations. Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Too I. think that's that's that's one big thing of that's really helped me out with that because. Especially, like from people right from people close to you. Sometimes when you hold somebody close to you in high regard, you may have very very high expectations that individual and then when they don't meet those expectations you become, it's somehow affects you become disappointed in how how can you do that? Why didn't you do that or how could you do this? Because you held all these expectations? Well, people are fallible will make mistakes you make mistakes and to have all these expectations which a lot of them will not be met. Like why put that y let that happen I think that's one big thing. I took wake us that there were people that I had very high expectation or. Expectations from they weren't met and it did affect me. But why just Kinda like go of that idea you know. It makes a big difference. There's people who utilize stoicism over the years to help with many atrocities that. We've faced throughout human history Nelson, Mandela one of them Viktor Frankl being other one Nelson Mandela was imprisoned for like twenty seven years or something like that. And I wish I could find like where I heard this. I don't even know true. But, they asked him about being completely isolated. They asked him like his thoughts on that. And There were like how did you feel being like in solitary confinement being completely being completely by yourself for so long and he said I was by myself. You know that's whether he whether he really believed that or not. That's a good fuck. You'd everybody you know what I mean like this not even not even acknowledging that he's going to even that he's GonNa even let that enter into his system and supposedly the room he was in he could put his arms out and touch the wall. So when he was in that fucking box for that long, it's pretty it's pretty crazy story and then victim breakthrough Frankel was in now see Germany and he was in concentration camp. And so I mean these people are in the worst scenarios ever and just try to think how can I think? Can I think about this a little bit better? Can I think about this a little bit differently and? I don't know if I would be able to but shit, they were they were they were able to they're able to find a a better route and I think on a much smaller scale. you had plans to do something outside for a particular day and it's now it's raining or here in. California. Everything's on fire and it's it's really smoky outside and. You don't want to be outside can't breathe and so. You can make a huge deal of that. The you know. You can say, fuck like can't believe you know why is this happening to me whatever Or you can just realize that being really mad about it being really. Just isn't going to change the news at all. Going to change the fact that it's raining outside. even if you were to spill your protein shake in the morning, which can be really frustrating you might. let out. A few cuss words or something but again, it doesn't help. It doesn't actually change anything. Maybe, somebody argue that pound their fists on a table or something for a quick second to let let something out. is is kind of human and natural and. Maybe. Maybe blocking that I don't know I don't know what the answer is that it may be blocking. That's not the best thing to do. but you know what? If what if instead of pounding your fists you hit somebody because you were angry or you threw something across the room now you're now it's now it's fairly obvious that. That's irrational or at least I would think that most people would agree that that starts to become irrational really quick. You know I wonder though with in situations like that feel like. exercise is great. I mean you know some people they use the gym to to let out that anger for me. It's like it's not letting anger, but it's letting out energy like I noticed that when I don't have the gym, I have all this excess energy and things can get to me a little bit easier right when I when I don't have just a way to exert myself so. I think that that is part of it. When you don't have a way to exert yourself, you don't do things in that way. I think you might end up being a little bit more wired up I would assume though you worked through some of that though through training like when you're younger, you may be trained with a little bit of. A little bit of a chip on your shoulder or did you maybe not even like necessarily? But were you like? I am going to like kind of stick it to myself today I am going to make today as I'm going to put myself in like a living hell in a sense to realize that it's exercise and that. We get to do it I understand that but. Just, kind of just bomb yourself. Yeah Yeah No. then. Now, I don't. I don't approach my exercise with a lot of like crazy motions or donatus lot. Yeah. You don't need it anymore and maybe back then maybe kind of get you started or go on you did yeah I that's. That's very, very true but like you know back to now your big though too. So it's all right. It's like you're not. You know maybe maybe you were like. Prove myself. I'm going to get big I'm GonNa get a strong I'm going to get jacked, and now you know most of us can agree that your big strong jacked. By the gals relating to your the pounding of the table type thing like you know the. The Gym Kinda does do that even if you're not expecting it to you know even if that's not your intention getting getting some exercise like all those intense walks and stuff you do that's gotTa do something for your just emotional level, right? Yeah helps I mean it's called. It's called working out. You're working shit out right I. Mean you're you're working it out I think I think it has improved on the way that we think about stuff and and maybe. Maybe, it just makes it a little more tired for other things. So I mean how many bodybuilders and powerlifters do we know that? You could tell him just about anything and they don't want to waste energy on anything else other than their exercise right I mean how about the bodybuilders have to park super close to the gym I mean Flex, wheeler talked about he talked about waiting for half an hour. for a for a spot right in front, of Gold's gym when he could have just easily parked across and across the street at Gold's gym is. It's only a couple hundred feet and like it's not it's not a couple of football fields lengths away that you'd have to park. And these guys they don't want to spend energy on anything and so they'd rather just. I. Mean I know a lot of people that live there. Really Chill I'm not saying that lifting makes everyone jokes I know a lot of maniacs to. it seems to work pretty well and a lot of times the bigger the person is and more accomplished. They are a lot of times the the calmer they are, but again, their career probably didn't really start there. It probably started with a little more intensity and a little bit of you know. A little bit of a chip on your shoulder when you're younger. You said that with a lot of people that fight to you know people that learn how to fight the tends to be the least confrontational individuals you know what I mean like you'll see that a lot from boxers, Jujitsu, guys, etc. They know what to do. You don't see them getting themselves thinking drives, people crazy George Saint Piero he says, he hates fighting. He's like he he's like I hate it. He's just like training for fun and then you know destroy anybody but he's like, I, hate the actual fight he's like I'm scared to fight using I don't WanNA fight terrified. Doesn't look like you're terrify looks like you're a savage. Truly understands first off the amount of harm he can do to another into, and then the amount of harmon end of another individual could do to him like when you understand like that, it's hard to WanNa do that like for example, if you were to get in a fight with somebody and you're on the street and you know, Jujitsu, you know the. The what can happen if you take somebody down their head hits the concrete by somebody that doesn't really fight doesn't understand that if they bash the hound, the concrete something bad could really happen and you're not gonNA like you're not GonNa get him in a hold and break their arm and then get up and break their other arm. No, I mean like. You might break arm because they might not stop doing whatever they were trying to do. So you might say, Hey, like you know I got to kind of go through with this but you're not gonNA. Yeah you need it's actually really interesting. You need like a willing participant that can be competitive with you otherwise he really and maybe that's part of what because he's is very talented, oh? Yeah. But I do remember was one of the brothers Jabs somebody to death and that was a hard fight to watch because remember that no, not literally death but but just jabbed them into the ground he jab jab somebody the whole fight and the guy's entire faces just. You know legendary and other legendary. You have guy he was just he just completely destroyed him like. Damn looks like he kinda likes bite me. I've heard him talk about stoves before too. Yeah. That's something a lot of fighters a lot of athletes a lot of. NFL Coaches I've heard have really tried to impart that to their athletes It really does it it it it makes a big difference especially like if you're an athlete. You tend to look at your progress emotional way for not progressing the way you want to you get angry messes with the way you approach things and if you just have like somewhat of a an indifference, he just do what you need to do daily and not let against the. Not Let. The outcomes affect you emotionally it can that can help with your progress drastically you know that's a big thing I mean even if we're gonNA, take that to the idea of trying to lose weight a lot of people get discouraged on their journey because things just aren't moving the way they expect them to or they want them to there may be. Progress that's actually being made, but it's not at the speed that they're looking for, and then it'll disheartened them they'll quit and then they'll come back later. But if you look at things through that lens of not having expectations, the doing the things needs to do day in and day out. No matter what ends up happening it helps everything run in a much smoother fashion. I think we have a tendency to. Use, the words should could and would. You know us we ought to do this I should do that. And then what happens when don't you know when you don't do that thing then you end up in a You end up in a predicament I, mean, just think about. Think about stuff that you think about things that you haven't liked in your life that you were forced to do. That never really turned out that never really ended up. Favorable for me school you know. So if I think a school. school is one thing that at least in this country you're. Completely forced to do most that most other things in this country you don't you're not forced to do much of anything. unless you're going after one thing then to have the opportunity to do that thing, then sometimes you need to do another like you're forced to like get insurance if you want to drive your car Those. Those sort of things but you have to you have to go to school. And when I think about the Forceful nature of that. And how it doesn't really work. The white worked for some people. but I don't think it works as well as wanting to do something maybe why college would be. Better for for a lot of people just because they get to kind of pick their courses, they get to pick a an agenda, they pick an interest or trade school. You get this. You know I'm GonNa go to a trade school to be an auto mechanic. Well, that sounds dope because I love cars you know or whatever. Whatever. The thing is that you're really attracted to but I think the sheds and woods and coulds that we might try to maybe be careful with saying to other people we set ourselves all the time, and then when you don't follow through on something, you feel like shit about it and what I always go back to. What I think is maybe more accurate is that it has to do with your interest level and it's Ok that if you're it's OK that you don't come flying out of the gate and get something right the first time. Anyway because. All knowledge always comes from error correction. and. Every time every time you solve a problem for yourself, you're not really solving a problem necessarily you're making your problems smaller, but I also believe that's where all forms of happiness come from they come from solving problems so. You have to maybe just understand like this whole thing's GonNa. Take Time you're trying to lose weight. Trying to be in better shape, you're trying to do a bodybuilding show. You're trying to do a power to meet. You have to understand that this stuff is going to take time and when you don't do it, it's just simply a lack of interest and it's going to take time for you to be more interested in it the more that you lean into it and the more that you better understand it the more you. Can make a decision on how much you actually like it or love it, and you could start to make a better decision better choice towards that. Maybe like you did with bodybuilding maybe like he did with powerlifting like he did with. Jujitsu as you do it, you know you're like, I'm to do this twice a week and do it twice week and you get twice week results and you're like twice a week results doesn't work. and then I don't know you do it for. Three Months Maybe the instructor tells you have a lot of promise and you're like. Look around the room and you're like that guy said he's a black belt said he's black belt like I did seven years eight years I think I. I think I have pretty good genetics. I'm young I'm hungry to do this. If I come five six days a week at six days a week I can do this and five six years in that kind of thing I. think that's The then like even even if you do mess up along the way. You don't get yourself. So bummed out about it now like Oh should we go to practice today even though my knee hurts like. You're like now is this process. I gave myself couple years and I was there already four times this week I don't need to freak out just need to get back in there as soon as the next opportunity comes my way. Yeah. I think that that's again what you just mentioned there. That's a that's a big tenant of the whole thing in terms of the things that you. Control quote unquote and one of the big things that you control is not just the react to things but the decisions in the choices you make about certain things. So of the first things that I think I grabbed from the whole idea from stoves and because when I when I learned about it a few years ago I, came from it from the viewpoint of I want to have more control over things. So it was more like I want to have controller things not the best way to come at it but that was my initial idea and that whole idea of you know you can't control the decisions the people make you can't control the things that people do. But you can't control yourself. You can control your decisions you can control your reactions and in and of that self that's a big power. If you can realize that and just understanding that I can control the choices decision I make towards the things I do was even though it's obvious like when you say that out loud anybody's like Duh, you would eat philosophy four but when you really think about it, it, it kind of helps clarify. Your Direction you know it helps clarify even the way you look at a when other people in your life helps clarify like the the effect that these people can have on you in terms of your direction no can really stop you. You know nothing. Anybody, says or anybody does to an extent can really stop. You just depends on the choices you make the decisions you make and how you go about doing that yourself. Because as it pertains to your relationship with other people I've heard so many people. Over, the years say I couldn't do that. My parents would kill me or and these are people that are like. You know they're adults the our they're getting close to an adult and here like. You know you'RE GONNA have to lose that at some point so you know. When To shake that is is ultimately up to you I mean third the. We. Don't really have to be forced to do. Shit, you don't WanNa do especially as you become older I think it just gets to be. Really interesting when you start to try to think about all the different things that happened in your day and how you you have agency over how you think about your thoughts kind of all the time. Now, there are mentioned this many times our thoughts pop in your head random. We don't have a lot of control over those. You might think seventy thousand thoughts in a given day and. You don't have control over all those things. A lot of thoughts that never even really come to the surface they never even really get get up there in terms of their priority. But when something does pop in your head as priority, you're allowed to think about that you're allowed to take your time with that. And That's what I would suggest. The most is who really just think about it like. Why when they said that that I get so anxious why when I thought about that thing that I just Like I felt paralyzed I thought about that public speaking event that I had and I started to. get nervous as if it's actually happening happening at that moment I started I, mean some people get really crippled by it. And so it's something to think about like what? Why do I feel that way and then also? What are some actions might be able take to not feel that way? You know I remember being fat Little Kid Getting Ready for for football and you know like. Running, and doing all this stuff that we did for a practice and just not being in very good shape and the next year that I went out for the team. Know all during the train all during the off season I was like I'm never gonNa feel that way again like I love football football's fun by didn't really. I. Was Kid I didn't know what it took. You know and so I was like well, I can do some of that run around and I can probably get more used to it because once the season started I was fine but in training camp and stuff like that it was it was tough. And so I was like I'm just never gonNA fill it wegener and every single year I tried to get in a little bit better shape. I was like you know I'd be like in the middle of the pack running with some of the other like linebackers linemen or whatever, and the next year I, was like I want to be like towards the front with the receivers and the running backs like I I know I can do that I just need to work harder and I was interested in that so I would work hard to try to. you know be more fit and being better shape so that so that it was easy that way I could have fun at practice rather practice being like Oh my God we got to do all this stuff and I got to go against this guy again and that kind of stuff and it brought down it crushed the anxiety because I like lifted I got strong and. It. Wasn't a it wasn't a thing. I was probably making other people anxious to go against me rather than vice versa. Mark you've been really good at this like even when we were talking about You know the virus like how you said that you've already come to like grass with idea of losing family members and stuff, and that goes back to like Memento Mori. Right like you're GonNa die everyone around who's going to die. How have you been able to get? So I don't WanNa say like extremely comfortable with it but the way said it it came off as like I already like I've dreamed that they're going to die and I've moved on very lived with that outcome I'm okay with it. So when you were talking about it, I was like Oh shit like dude I can't do that right now. How have you been able to build up like the the the capacity to do something like that. Well I experienced it. So hopefully, other people need to go through it to get there but. my dad my dad died basically I mean he he died a couple of times when he was in hospital in New York, city couple years ago and I you know. I wrote him letters you know I you know I said goodbye to him on the phone even I mean, we thought he was. We thought he was done. You know I told him. I was like dad you did everything I need. You know I know how to be a man because of you you can like if you need to go. Though for you know, don't be hanging on for me because I don't want you to be around and and be week and be in pain and so if you need to. If needed to go I'm good. You know and I I didn't even know he heard of that. But when he came awake and we we talked and stuff and he was just in tears and he's like, I always worried about you the most because you're the baby of the family and I was like Holy Shit. I was like, why are you worried about me? I'm good. I know what to do you know but You know I had unfortunately had kind of. Walked down that road before and having my brother die and stuff like that too and almost losing my brother. Chris. Life Life can be. Human beings are amazing because we can take a crazy amount of punishment anything take crazy crazy shit can happen to us but then we're also so fragile you know like your temperature, right? It's like ninety eight point six point seven. What does it whatever it is? And if that's off by two degrees, you're like, you're really fucking sick you're. Like. None of us would be in this room like if if I had one hundred or one hundred and one fever just to two or three ticks up. I'm calling you guys saying, Hey, man or a mom probably, not even going to call you I'm GonNa have my wife text you guys or something? No I'm going to be like I'm shop can't even get to the phone. So we're very like you know we're very fragile I. think maybe it's understanding that. We can all be in compromising positions at some point or another, and then maybe On, maybe even more of A. More general thing is like. You don't WanNa ever looked down at anybody due to their position. You know you see homeless people on the street and you like those people are those people are crazy those people. Date it's. It's easy to say that it's it's easier just to say that and to say, Oh, you know get a job. You know these bombs you know they they need to go. They need to go do something for themselves. Why? Why am I gonNA GIVE THEM MONEY? They're just going to go get drugs or they're gonNA go to to whatever with it you know I I may have even used to think that way to some degree because it's hard to understand when you see people living that way. But as I got older like I'm forty three years old so you just grow up at a certain point. And I understand that that could be me. That could be my children. You know that that could that could happen to anybody nobody wants mental health disease. You know nobody nobody wants to be addicted to drugs or alcohol and have it get clinched throat of their life every single day and Like they're they don't want people don't want to do fucking heroin and crack maybe at first they are interested in some way. Maybe they're like, Hey, man I need something to get through my day, right? Yeah but I don't think they WANNA be hooked on it and then I don't think they wanNA. Give birth to a trial that's hooked on and so forth and so. I've tried to just kind of in more general terms just. Just know like that. You aren't shit I ain't shit. I'm I'm nothing I'm on the same as everybody we're all we're all very we're all very level and some of these people that you might look down upon. that might be on the streets. Some of these fucking people are actually really happy. You know I pass by every day Davis I say I don't say what's up. He's like good morning how you doing today you know he's all fired up he's all excited. I don't know what he's got on, but he to be one of the happier people that I encounter on a daily basis. So. kind of walking through the steps of death, and then also just kind of recognizing that I. Guess You. If. I don't like if I don't amplify an overvalue what have going on then it allows me to. Part ways with easier. So what I have a bunch of stuff. You know what I mean. That's society determine that that's a level success. I didn't make that up. You know somebody else did. I. Just happen to have a bunch of it. Yeah I. Think that answers the next question I had for you but on the the most recent episode of Saturday school. The question that I had posed was like, okay. If if you're not being if you're not successful yet and you've been grinding nonstop and this is not happening you said like one just get better but also you have to believe in yourself and then just to Kinda, you know throw it out there and be devil's advocate. You just said right now like you have to realize that you ain't shit either. So it's almost like they're conflicting. So how the hell can somebody balance those two thought processes. I think we're all like you know walking contradicts contradictions you know. The way we feel in one moment is not the same as the next there's A. Old saying that I like the says. Shit now, I'm starting to forget it, but it basically says something the effect of no-man's steps in the same river twice basically meaning that because you will be a different person. The next time you step into the river and the water beneath, you will be different everything about it be different. At least that's my interpretation of it, and so I think you know we change a lot and so. If you ask me the same question tomorrow, I'll probably give I'd probably give you a different answer. It just kind of depends on your your mood and your mode and how you're interpreting everything but I would say that You know sometimes some of these questions to their hard to answer because I think people need to recognize that there. My answer you know in my answer might not have anything to do with they are answer. So, many listeners could be eighteen years old you know. By the way we have a lot of lady listeners 'cause I. Saw when I was in Utah. There was some chick listeners they're like, yeah. Listen to podcasts of like damn. Say We're blowing up. Wow. What was the question again the for? The the how you're contradicting yourself a little. Can't sound very extra, but it was between between what two things. But your success, right? Yeah you ain't shit but. Believe in yourself. Yeah. Yeah you have to be after I, mean you have to you have to believe in yourself and the only way that you're going to believe in yourself as do stuff. what that stuff actually is. That will increase over a long period of time. It'll take a long time for to for to grow and for you to get better at these things but. in order to. In order to like. Be. Somebody. In this world, you have to just simply believe that you are, but you can't fake later falsely believe that you are. Doesn't work that way. I can't look at myself in the mirror and tell myself I'm beautiful unless I actually really think it or allowed unless I think I have some beautiful attributes that the world could use the only way that I'm GonNa actually believe that is to actually do that stuff to actually provide for the world. To say, Hey, what you did the other day it was beautiful. That was great. You know that was cool. I, if I could if I can actually say the sentence and without stuttering and believing it fully that I'm GonNa feel fucking amazing about myself. I. Guess Maybe something people need to understand to. I could be buried right now and I'd be totally happy like I. Feel like I. Feel like I've already lived a great life. I feel like there's still so much more life to live. There's still so much more for me to teach. My children are still so much more for me to. Pass on but if If got shot leaving this building because the east coast west coast. Rap Battle goes off again. If that happens again, I, I get I get I get mobbed down like that mowed down like that. Then you know that's just that's just the way it is but like I have a bunch of stuff. That will live on forever or live on until until is not there any longer and then if you're not putting in a putting a lot of way on material things or like the bank account stuff like as if that all goes away he said you'd still be happy. But how can someone find happiness then if that doesn't matter then what is it that they're striving for like how? What's that thing at the end of the road that they're working their ass off for because they think that it's GonNa make them. Happy. my belief in is that it's It's annoying to hear it, but it's it's always in the process. It's always in the journey is not in the actual attainment of stuff. When ENCIMA GETS HIS BLACK BELT? He's not even going to like we'll see on Instagram, but it's not even going to say anything. He's not gonNA come in and be like Yo. You guys remember like I've been talking about this ship for he's GonNa come in wearing his black belt. Like how like that would be so gross right? He comes in you. No Right. There'd be a little bit less girl. Cringe you mean like yeah. That'd be so girls I met like you're just going to be just wearing that that'd be fine I'd show that party. Yeah. It just reminded me I used to, I, used to work with the guy he did like a half marathon came to work wearing like the metal that everyone gets no man though so bad. Did He have a desk next to that? Bitch. Sue. This was an office prior to. Yeah. Just reminded me of that anyway. Yeah. I think a lot of fulfillment will come from the journey and it's my belief that happiness just come from continuing to solve problems and the only way you can solve problem the only way you can create knowledge to be able to solve a problem in the first place as the mets up. This understand that messing up as part of the process back to dieting you know is used dieting as thing people like how do I get back on track? Well. You should not have a track that you're ever off. You know like there's no, there's no off like, yes, we call it cheating and yes, we make jokes about it and we have fun about it. But I'm sorry peanut butter cups are part of the equation. Ice Cream Ben and Jerry's stuff we talk about pizzas cereal. All this stuff is it's part of the equation. It's part of it's part of the journey. It's it's. Maybe. It's a detour you know but you're not really getting off you look at it as as if you like fallen off the wagon. Well. That sounds terrible like, yeah. How are you going to get back on how you going to get? High. Are you gonNA figure it out to pick yourself up and and get yourself. But you didn't really that bad. You just ate a bad meal or two or maybe even three or maybe a bad weekend or whatever. But. That's all part of it. You know why went from three thirty down to I'm about to thirty right now it took me that was twelve years ago that I weighed three thirty. So it, it didn't take me necessarily twelve years to do it but. It's been a long process and I still go on and off you know it. You know if you WANNA Kinda. Say it that way but I don't I don't view it that way I view it as if I'm just. Kind of on this longer journeys I think I'll just try to always get in better shape until I can't anymore. I mean look at Marxist and he's like sixty two or some thunder sixty one looks amazing crazy or look at Every time Stan efforting comes around he's in better and better shape like he's a leanest I've ever really seen I mean. Obviously like he He got a pro card you know in my time of knowing him in bodybuilding so. He most likely will not ever be that big in lean ever again, but he's pretty much as lean. As I've ever seen him the last time I saw many looks he looks healthy. Looks Great. Sorry to will come back. What's the paper Towel Guy? Come. One hearing, he has one airing mister clean. Whatever yeah? About. Mister. Clean, immediately, think of Mr Clinton. He he might have to start to clean the place when he comes here next time. Yeah. She just next time he comes you just wear very like very tight white t shirt maybe a fake earring if he doesn't brings already. But also the person that I know. The beyond smokey. That's a skill. That's what I said. But okay. Now, coming back to what we were talking about Your like that. But that all again leads back to like interpretation like when Andrew asked the question what How do you get to happiness? It's your interpretation of the situation that you're actually in. You know you could look at all of the bad things that are currently happening to you. And I know some situations are much much much worse than others but then there's also a lot of underlying good. A lot of things that are there that are very positive for you even like when when you're looking at. Goals you want to achieve or something that you haven't done just yet the whole thing of like you ain't shit. That could be seen as like a good thing because a lot of people When they're trying to go toward something, they give it all of this power and like they make it bigger than it actually is. But if you realize that you know first off, people have done it before that's one thing but number two it. What you're doing isn't necessarily the biggest deal I could. No, one's going to be greatly hurt greatly I. It's not GonNa do anything crazy right if you if you don't get it or if you achieve it, it's not going. Nothing crazy is going to happen if you break announced the most simple aspects of it. So then just Go towards it. Mo. We used to think that Earth was the only thing that was here. You know we used to think that our civilizations the only thing the here, and now it just seems completely. Ludicrous to think that even though we don't have as much proof. as maybe we would like we. We learned planets and they're like, oh, there's like seven or eight planets right? And then we learn okay well at least the earth is in like the center of the universe. And turns out. That's not true either and it turns out that and I'm like, okay well. We're the only. We're the only planet that has a son. Turns out that Sinead true either turns out there something called the Milky Way and it turns out that there's billions. Billions of sons. There's billions of planets. Solar systems may go on like in like we don't even we don't have any way of knowing. You know so I think when you start to, there's actually Think it's called like humility is on Youtube. I'll give you the link. IS A. Thing, but it kind of describes all that describes. You know how we're just this Pale blue dot you know in in the grand scheme of things when you if you've us from. Zoom, out on stuff and you were to think. If. You were to see like a short video of the last couple of weeks or months that you had. and. Let's say the last couple of weeks or months you had are just horrific but say that they're really really bad. He got divorced you lost your job like you can't even you can't even like. Write a script to make it any worse, right. Now imagine if you saw. If zoomed out and you know you're watching your TV but you trade places with somebody else's to watch their video. And you see that they lost a child. You see that they their dad guy hit by a car. Then you just see like all this just crazy shit that happened maybe they grew up in a different country maybe didn't have access to books or maybe the access the school and you just start you start to watch all this shit and then you move on to the next person and that one's worse you move on the next person that one's worse. And now you're like Oh shit. You know it's not just me that has suffering. Most of the most of what happens in humanity is. Is there's a lot of suffering with some happiness sprinkled in. Periodically most most of the world most of the universe is just space. There's like nothing there it's nothingness. Most of America as populated as America is most America's nothing, there's not there's nothing there's just like Buchan fields. You know across America and you'll see there's like Like wow this is really fucking huge but compared to what compared to the whole entire landscape. It's nothing you know it's all. So I just I. Guess. My point is just perspective. You know you start to have per se applicant thing started time perspective on all this stuff that we're just like this little. Little Blip I I love campaigns campaign says you know no one cares keep hammering No one cares keep. Hamra like just shut the fuck up and just keep going because no one gives a shit anyway but it's important for you to do it because you know that it's GonNa. Make you feel good. That's all you're trying to do. Is Try and make yourself feel good. So, does that answer this question? It's from Matthew Balcony. He's how do you come to terms with trying and failing? How do you make yourself focus on growing instead of failure itself Ninety professor. Part of. That's part of the problem like like you said, you know that track it's part of the track so. You don't even necessarily need to look at as a failure as fair like if you're being realistic. Okay, you didn't. which wants to achieve but you learned from that. which will help you continue moving towards whatever it is you're trying to do you know you haven't stopped you don't have to stop. It's your choice it's within your power to continue to try to move forward so. I don't see that as. I don't see that as a problem. I don't even know like. The failure I think is like. You know you can view it as a loss but it. Rather than like the l word for a loss, I would turn into like learn like you just learn from it. You just I just I just learned something new. You Maybe maybe you went in jamming, you try to dead lift three plates. Just learn that you're not quite ready for it because your hip shot up a little bit earlier in your background did over we'll now like. Can you live three plates? While you didn't right but can I do you possess the ability to lift those three plates? Yeah of course you do It a could have been just a rough day maybe enough sleep there could be a bunch of things like that but you could also just analyze and you can reframe you know maybe. Maybe, you go back and you paint a different picture of what your training's going to look like so that you can So. You can figure out what was the kind of weak link in the whole thing what what am I missing? You know? How do I make this? How do I make these problems that I have with lifting three hundred and fifteen pounds? How do I make them smaller? and. So you go to lift three, fifteen, three, four weeks later after you did forty five degree back raises holding some way and after you did some maybe ABC training and after you just home in your form and technique a little bit better maybe had maybe had someone else give you some criticism because criticism is going to criticism and conjecture is going to help really help you to gain more knowledge in the more questions that you ask in the more. Off The beaten path that you go with those questions, the quicker you're you're GonNa get to your solutions. So you get to your solution as quickly as you can through a lot of trial and error the error. Is Not really a failure it's life I think is is just about Eric Correction I think that's really all that were. You know the meaning of life gets to be really complicated but I think that I think. Maybe. The meaning of life is just simply the journey of life to continue to solve problems for yourself and to Pasa- information on other people so that we can just be happy so we can just get through this life. Because if you sit around and think about it a lot, you could end up. Being saddened depressed anxious, and those kinds of things know what man does it seem to Doesn't seem to others I should use a more pg word for this I'm sugar coating things too much thinking that we shouldn't even really use that word because we can. We can reframe the idea of failure but when you think about failure, right, it's so just like negative zad like it it's it's just it just really sucks because when you really think about. Failure or the idea of failure You know they're they're. Usually. If you just continue trying to move in the same direction that you've been, it doesn't lead to anything negative usually leads to a positive. Right. Because like like, for example. Had the goal of doing certain things as far. Strength is concerned but then I started doing Jitsu and love that and now I'm just I'm so much in a much better place focusing on that. Did I fail at that that thing in terms of powerlifting like you know when you decided to leave your job and do stuff here did you from the Elektra last job or? What Right, like I mean. It's like whenever we whenever people usually talk about failure. It's always like Oh. This is the end it's drab it's Glenn and it just it feels like we shouldn't even be looking at failure in that way it's not necessarily a bad thing. Yeah I guess perception like you know you talk about how people? Like in your family like like you're supposed to be a doctor all he he failed at being a doctor he just talks to into a microphone like. Maybe some might see that as a failure but yeah, no, some some people do see that as those scared automobile group we'll see that as a failure yeah, I know mark has said like turn your L.'s into. Lessons or something like that in the past and it's it's totally true. That's how I've been feeling for a really long time now. Yeah. Like there's like no such thing as a bad experience because you're gonNa take something from it. No matter what you exactly. Yeah. So yeah, I think perception Realizing what you can learn and Keep pushing forward. So I got a chance to talk this weekend and at this BITCON thing that was run by Robin Dalen Bailey, and the muscle, and it was it was a lot of fun I was on stage with the Muscle Mike Rasheed, Rob Bailey, and Matt Vincent, and we were talking about like building business, and this kind of thing and I mentioned in in my. Portion of it that I was in I was in I was an inventor. And I mentioned how I struggled in school and kind of told my story and so on. Afterwards this little kid came up to me and he said I'm an adventure to. And I was like that's awesome and his dad was explaining to me like a you know he he really struggles with school. You know he's got attention deficit disorder and. you know these kinds of things and So I got talking to this little kid and it was really funny because he was like What did it? He's like, what did it take to? Get your first invention going and is kind of funny because I mean he must have been like eight or something you know. Wow and I was like well, I was like it really just took. Just like just making it happen. Just like just. kind of taking that first step and actually doing it, and then he's like. He goes well, what lessons did you learn along the way you know he he's like a little kid. So I'm like completely blown away and so I explained to the kid you know like all you know I I had to fail a little bit. I had messed up a couple times but the first creation of it because it didn't come out right and And then I landed on something that worked and that provided for people and then people were excited and then the kid kind of like he kind of got behind his dad he was kind of messed around doing some other stuff and I told Dad I was like you ain't got nothing to worry about this kid I'm like he's clearly like really like intelligent in. The fact that he has the ability to communicate with people and the fact that he has kind of like an emotional intelligence about him that might be far superior than a lot of the stuff that he may. Not Pick up in school and things of that nature but. I like seem as point right there I. Think. Failure is a human word you know A A computer. Error Error Right can't compute. but like you know your your computer when you go, if you go to search for something in it, like doesn't find it or something you computer doesn't like put Oh fuck on the screen or or leave me alone like that's annoying or he doesn't get frustrated at you if you had a computer that was I don't know if you had a robot that was like, I dunno squeezing you orange juice or something if it like man stop, it wouldn't have a feeling one way or the other like let's say it was learning how to make orange juice for you wouldn't have a feeling one way or the other it'd be like, okay. Error like I I I S- mashed the. the orange and I squeezed it. But then a bunch of Orange Peel landed in the cup and computed that was wrong and it would like keep trying trying trying until until it started to get it right but it wouldn't feel one way or the other about it wouldn't be like Oh that was a failure it would be like well, that's just not the correct way. You think about, why is it so difficult to teach your son, how to throw a football or to teach your daughter, how to catch a football or throw a baseball or Whatever it is, and it's because. When you point out an error to them? They think that they're doing something wrong they think it's a failure. and. Then they get sad and they wander into the house and you're like. Like fuck man is just trying to. Like then you like was I too aggressive. I mean I'm really just trying to teach them throw the damn ball. Then you don't know what you did, but that's human right that's very and plus they're five years old. So they're they're really really delicate who the hell knows what they're thinking Normally. Normally, kid will like you know they'll. They'll play with stuff and they WANNA play with it their way, and we've talked about this before they kind of like start to make their own rules especially once they lose some in something, they start kind of make their own rules but I think a great way to just look at stuff in general. Is this really look like? I got a lot of errors to correct, and if I can correct these errors affecting correct these maybe they maybe they've turned into kind of long-term flaws and long-term habits that you have but everyone's got him. Everybody has everyone has. Just, look around, you will not find what you'll never find one person you never find one human being that is as perfect everyone has advice. Go, go out to eat some time. You know whenever that is the thing again. Go out to eat some time and and look at how many people have fried food on their table. Look at how many people are eating a bunch of bread and butter. Look how many people are having drinks you know maybe that's just a one offer them maybe catching them on a weird day like they might be catching you on a weird day having a drink or eating whatever but. Even just with our food I mean that's just one tiny category of everything that we do. It's just the were have errors all over the place and then you just try to. Think about those errors and you mature and you turn into somebody who's like you know what? I can't believe I. Wow, I'm actually really ashamed that I used that these. I can't believe I used to do that Damn I wish I wish I didn't have that against me, but it happened and they but you corrected it you may switch gears you moved over doing something slightly different. Yeah. As an adult, you have a tough job is many of us were raised by individuals who are also raised by individuals who when you see failure or when you when when that happens, it's you got very negative reaction like as a kid like when I would throw away my Kumaon packets which a learning center or whatever I would do bad on something right? My mother always wanted me to do better. So whenever like I would? Fail at something like you. Do you do you want to end up like this? All? Right so you become scared of that. But the thing is like if if a child learns when they're failing as a kid that. Happens you can just learn about this and you'll be like if that continues to be drilled into them, like that won't be an effect as an adult like that. That's just part of the whole process but myself and millions of other people right. As adults Y- you have to kind of rewire yourself not to look at failure in that way I'm still going through that whole process because it's still stings a little bit when or there's still this this a little bit of fear to do certain things. Because of that failure but you gotta continue to understand that that is just a part of the process and I need to make sure that when I do have children I need to teach them that failure is not necessarily failure as we see it. I, think that's the biggest thing because you mentioned like you're talking about kids and whatever, and I just think that's such a big deal to just have help kids have that mindset of growth and failing through everything and that's okay. That's just part of an all. I it does it. It's really good for kids because like I've been this sounds messed up but I've been trying to figure out how to. Find ways for my daughter to lose because when she does lose at like even just like whatever we're doing playing like wiffle ball or something, she gets really frustrated on my wool like we're supposed to be having fun. So little things like that but we're we're co-parenting. So sometimes, it's really difficult when I'm like, Hey, like if you get a D. minus or an F. I. Legit don't care. Whereas the other house is like, no, you're you need to get straight as and you're going to college. whole `nother situation. But yeah, I think it's yeah. It's ingrained in US right like or maybe it's part of like are being humans like Oh, we can't. We can't not go get the freaking Gazelle because we feed our family or whatever it is what people eat back in the day but yeah. Yeah, my my. Nephews and Yeah I was talking about Monday about like school and stuff like that and. He was my nephew ham bone he was like Hamish. Said A. I'm going to I'm going to go to college. I'm going to do this I'm going to do that and And then he said something about how he had like I don't I mentioned something else to him and he then he said he had to go to college i. And I was like Oh okay I was like You don't really you don't actually have to go to college for what you're talking about. he's like, no, no, no. A half to go to college because Dad. My Dad said I have go to college I said Oh that's different. You know that you don't you don't actually have to go to college. But. You know in your case, you're saying that your dad, you know saying that you need to go or whatever. He's like. He's like I have to go to college like what do you want me to be a loser? Jeeze. I told him I was like well, I said I said, who's GonNa to at Your Dad's gone to college right in and he's like, yeah and I was like and he said he's like my mom went to college and Andy went to college and. He's like it goes to college noten. He's he's is kind of lit up news like, oh. I. Don't I don't feel like a loser. I was like, but maybe you're right. He started laughing meanwhile your brother-in-law's like, what are you doing? Exactly what else speaking about like what the Hell is? Dad Thinking right now it's so funny here we're. We're around each other a lot and with With My niece it's kind of the same way too because she loves to like bake and stuff, and they're like, Hey, you need to go to be. And I. Actually think that's a great idea because a lot of times people are passionate about cooking food and they make great food but you ever go to a restaurant where you're like there's something off about this place. This place as having hasn't figured it out. They don't have good service or some as like you're like, I kind of enjoy displace food's pretty good. But something's weird about those are people that are probably foodies that never learned the business side of it. So I think sometimes, it can be really beneficial to like You know as we as we saw in that bill and Ted Clip. Know that you don't know anything. We're know that you don't know enough and try to figure out what you can learn. No. Before the podcast started I showed Encima bill and Ted's excellent adventure we're talking about. So crates. Socrates and that's kind of where a lot of this stuff stemmed from I. Don't know how much further back it goes but. Socrates. I. Believe was from Ancient Greece and then I think we'll actually actually stoicism was made famous by Zeno And I think he was he was from Greece's well but I I'm losing track of WH-. What who did what but Anyway. I think that Zeno was the one who popularized he made it. He made it famous. He's the one who kind of read different books on it, and then he started to teach it outwardly and it kind of grew from there and know what was called before that but I should probably look that up and we'll figure it out theodore MINET before. Yeah. Let's see. I I'm going to try to pronounce this Agua. Oh Man H. L. A. N. Z. E. L. A. from south. Africa. Brings up my favorite STOIC but mark you had you had mentioned stuff about like Oh go when you go out to dinner whenever that happens again Whether or not restaurants opened up is out of our control. What good does it do to be so frustrated about that I'm not really frustrated about I I actually have been able to still eating because you can still eat but still eat at restaurants because you can eat out you can also order out and now I don't. I, don't if I sounded frustration I. No, no, No. I was just trying to bring a general thing that somebody might be. I can't travel to Europe right now like getting all upset I just think. Yeah I just think. That, we are just giant babies. You know we have like. There's so many like. Is Is. As annoying as it is to see that there's like such different views on this pandemic in that, we can't come to a more clear resolution. There's information on one side and then there's information that's completely opposite and so from the very beginning I've been like all right just kind of. Confused on what on why that is and then in having some people on the podcast explain some of it a little bit further you know it it. It started to make a little bit more sense, but in general Our lives are our lights are still really good. Lot of people have their jobs and. they're frustrated but again, I think there's still a lot of people being protected from you know collecting unemployment and from stimulus packages and. Like the United States still rocks you know like still like the I from from my vantage point, you know maybe other have different vantage point they don't feel the same win. That's. That's totally fine. You're entitled to Your Own Opinion, but I think in general I think things are still really good. I think things are still like I still feel good about everything and even if things were worse. I would. Still. Do my best to try to choose feel good about the situation that I would do. What I fell is in my control exercise, take care of my brain, take care of my family and still trying to figure out a way to feel good every day. Yeah. So this all started from the question. Well, the quote you know from the last of the five good emperors except what you can control let go where you cannot control Marcus Aurelius Nat for me especially recently with like you know the buying and selling a house. That's been huge in the probably the best thing about learning this was helping my sister go through the same situation she was super stressed out. You know like, Oh, I don't know when we're GONNA sign I don't know when people are going to move in when we're GONNA be homeless and edited until we get the new spot and just kept telling her kind of the same thing over and over like, okay. What can you control like? Okay can do X. Y. and Z. do that. What can't you? Okay don't worry about it. Then I know it's impossible because you're stressed out but for somebody again like I said earlier like, I, I have dealt with me like some sanctions about certain things. Understanding this concept has helped me. Man More than any kind of antidepressant, anti anxiety medicine whether being natural or not like this right here like that's been super beneficial for me. You know our our boy that we have coming on the PODCAST MR I in holiday It's in his book the obstacles in the way there's this chapter on questioning yourself. I haven't read individuals by the way obstacles the way egos, the enemy and Johnson the great books and then there's the daily stock I. Think you also have that one row really dope read it to my son everyday it's like a Bible. Everyday but anyway, but I was going to say was there's this chapter on questioning yourself and it's like a really good thing to like attacked right If something does happen and you feel angry, you can I say okay. What I feel angry because it happened. That helping me right now no what can help me right now doing this as this happens to other people before. Yes. Are they alive? Yes. Are they doing okay. Yeah. Like you can legit just question the whole thing down to it really doesn't matter like the it's things are fine. You don't have to be you know. Or Angrier whatever about this, you can literally question the whole thing and you'll be okay and it's it's I know it sounds like super I. Guess Simplistic because like Oh you're gonNA question yourself every time you get mad about something or sad about something but really that can solve a lot of if you just questioned down, it's absolute simplest form. In the start it's it might be like this is going to be weird like tracking your macro like I'm not GonNa do that every time, but eventually you get really good at it to where you don't have to. Yeah. So you you speed through. So when you question literally everything, it's like royalty. At first but then. Starts to make sense and you start to Kinda just kind of handle yourself that way a little bit better. Yeah. I mean, what if you're someone who's just explain to you? You could just. Go through the rest of your life being undisturbed by pretty much anything. Anyone ever says. you can go the rest of your life without really bothering to argue with people because doesn't really ever I mean you do need to sometimes speak your mind and you speak up for yourself either like sometimes defense sometimes needed defend yourself. but you need is just understand like I dunno or or about how valuable is that? When it comes to like on, you know being doing something online you know doing something on the Internet like is there Arguing. It somebody on the Internet that's fourteen. You know. Get listen yeah like. Does yeah. and Y Y. You know what's the arguing four? Are you trying to create your own like Echo Chamber he wanna make sure that you comment back on everything that someone says about your diet or about your clothes or whatever it is that you can make sure that they understand that they're wrong and that you're right I mean the anxiety, the emotion that's created by just that. One thing I believe can be eliminated almost completely from a lot of people if you work on it. There's a word that I really liked that I haven't heard many people say before but it's a word as called equanimity and I talked about it on my own YouTube channel before but I have the definition right here and it's having. Says having an even mind is a state of. Psychological state of psychological stability and composure, which is undisturbed by experience of or exposure of emotions. Pain or other phenomena that may cause others to lose the balance of their mind. Now, you're not going to be able to do that all the time. You're not going to be able to be undisturbed from every single thing. That you hear you're not going to be able to. The you know it'd be. Read nearly impossible to have that much composure to where. You know you. You just don't. You don't care you know That's what separates us out from other animals I. I I. So I think. If you're thinking about. A SLAUGHTERHOUSE THAT HAS CATTLE If we are being slaughtered in a similar way and insieme was in front of me. I'd be crying, it'd be screaming I'd be like it. You know I I try to run away. I tried to get him with me and we try to escape right the animals they don't even if they were to see the other one you know they don't they just don't think that way. They don't they don't maybe they don't have the ability to. You know but we but we do and we have the ability to think about. Every single thing that happens to you everything. Every single thing that has ever been the said about you. Everything. Has Been said about you. If it's It doesn't necessarily have to be a truth through that's up to you to on whether you want to wear that and carry that around with you. but a really weird interesting thing is the you that you think you are isn't even real isn't even it's barely real. It's only real in your own exists in your own mind because encinas view of me is different than my own perspective of me. And I'm in the same room with you guys all the time. But Andrews view of means different. My view of you is different than your girlfriend's view of you your mom's view of you like it's just and so I think you know when you try to start to. He starts to think about all this kind of weird. Weird stuff that being human being can really be they just try to figure out how do I just I just live the best life I can live. How do I occupy my time? OCCUPY MY MIND WITH With Feeling feeling good about myself because if I can feel good about myself, hopefully I can make others feel good about being in my presence and being around me and hopefully, I kinda bring those people up because if I can bring you up and I can bring you up. And I'm I'm already up. I'm already excited than the whole room is lifted, and if you're thinking similar thoughts and if you're thinking similar thoughts then right now are now our audience is listening to our conversation. Now they're brought up and that's Kinda of gets passed around I mean it doesn't always have to be about. positively and that kind of stuff but. Why not choose that? It's feels better. Heels much better. Yeah. Then, my the other. Like super just. Probably the second biggest like impact that stoicism has had on me is marcus released talking about waking up early. Oh. That's huge because I'm I'm just like a lot of a lot of people like ice to hate waking up early it started with mark getting my ass up early to come train and then I started realizing do there something different about being up at four like it's? There's some special. What did he say about we? Mark or? A. Hey. There you go. I can find the exact quote but. Basically. He's just like like why would you stay in bed like where you meant to sleep under the covers all day long you meant to go out and do what you're supposed to what you were put on this planet for that. Short. I'll get the exact quotes because I just butchered it but it makes so much sense 'cause like. Am I put on this planet to hit the snooze button and to stay in my saying my bed and do nothing or am I put on this planet to get out this conversation to as many people as possible. Secure, that's why I've got up really early train and then get here on time to make sure that. Everything runs smooth possible. I'm not meant to just not do anything today and so because of that like, yeah, waking up early, it's just something new every day now weekends doesn't matter although this Saturday was a little bit tongue because I I didn't get home 'til midnight how it comes out hails so that like that day we found out in on vitamin C in. Eighteen. Love. I, inject it. That way. Creating injected, you're not supposed to. Claim, natty just why even bother. In, meet. That Mexican meet something weird. Going on. Yeah that's anyways. That's cleanse. What's Use all the Mexican fighters, boxers and stuff they'll get it Clinton. No. You don't understand in Mexico. It's in the beef like that's just the way it is. In no wait what. How did that get? To follow up while you're saying about waking up early I, think it's just about you know being respon- responsible. And, and maybe not necessarily waking up. Early for each person, I just want to specify can be a little different for you. Don't necessarily have to wake up early to be really successful. my father in law was a good example that he wouldn't get to work until like eleven. He'd wake up like nine thirty. He just didn't. He didn't like going to bed early. So stay up a little bit later. It's important that you make sure that you get. You know proper amount of sleep but what I would suggest for people is to work on earlier. So just like you know if you're used to waking up at like nine. And Your Day is kind of you know by eleven o'clock you just haven't got an a lot of stuff done. I would suggest if you have the capability to go to bed a little bit. Get. Your Butt in bed a little bit earlier because I've talked about this before on this podcast but. Normally, it's the cascade disciplines that ends up being the most important thing because there's a bunch of other things that surround that. So when you go when you have to wake up. or maybe half twos not the great word for it but like when you feel the need to wake up early. You will start to feel the need to get to bed earlier because we know we talk about health nutrition and sleep on this podcast all the time that we need a certain amount of hours sleep. So don't. Don't feel like you need to really sacrifice your sleep. they need only sleep five hours every night you know just to try to get ahead. That's going to be tough and that's going to be putting yourself in that category of the woods and should and could send your policing yourself too strongly to too hard Your success isn't going to happen from one particular day anyway and so you know get your rest, get your sleep in, but maybe you can start to. Hear Andrew Said and say Interest talking about four am that's a little crazy. First of all, I would suggest trying that at some point just as just as see how you feel with it you might feel like total crap, but try try it a couple times but I'd also just mainly recommend just trial earlier. That's what that's what's worked really well for me over the years it just Kinda got earlier and earlier and earlier the point where it got ridiculous when training with o'hearn I was up at like three forty five every morning and I was eating breakfast and it was. Like I just had a time perfectly because when you train with him if you don't have food in your stomach, you're gonNA feel like you're GonNa die if you have too much food in your stomach puke everywhere. So It was a tough thing to to figure out but find your sweet spot is all. I'm really saying you know wake up might be a good idea to wake up a little earlier than what you're used to. If you kind of feel like your little sluggish in the morning So the quote is at dawn when you have when you when you have trouble getting out of bed, tell yourself I have to go to work as a human being what do I have to complain of? If I'm going to do what I was born for the things I was brought into this world to do. Or is this what I was created. Was this created for to huddle under the blankets and stay. Warm. That does feel good though it feels amazing. Warm blanket especially when it's all three of us. Remember that yesterday. Feet are cold sometimes all the time man that's one thing. That's why. We're socks. I should start wearing socks again, the ones that you got. Cold feet on me. Got Me. And you make it hard to breathe. Covered with blankets don't like it. Oh Okay I'll fix. You don't always have to be in the middle, but that's usually where you let's not get too crazy. What do you mean like the Middle Okay Good? Good. Good knowing that. Not want ever want you to be uncomfortable. That's weird when I told him to get get us a bed. He got us a twin bed. kind of small but not really just allows us to really use our our heat I guess it just depends on how you interpret it. All depends on the bed might be huge. At least this podcast ticket detour went right down the toilet. Hey, there's a lot of people that would love to have a twin bed to share between three people. See. Bam brought it back. All right and you WANNA, take us on out of here. Absolutely they everybody for taking out this especially those on the livestream. If he has did catch this live please make sure you guys come back tomorrow because we have Ryan holiday on and then if you're listening to this on itunes side check our youtube channel right away because of maybe we're live currently but please make sure you're following the podcast at Mark Mills Power Project on Instagram at MB power project on twitter linked in facebook youtube. was at Andruzzi insieme, where you at NC Maniac on Instagram and Youtube and union tokens with mark. I WanNa, give a shout out to my boy Sean provost from Dutch. You know we had him on the podcast many many times. And he good friend of mine but. So what happened was he's the person that sent me that documentary of the WAS IT Lawley if I think I saw hopefully it's off from fat Lawley to six pack Lawley area. So he's the one who sent me that documentary in watching that documentary. I, was like well. You he he paid to have people with him, live with him, and he paid for people to train with him and all these different things. And but the person sending over to me with Sean and so when I? When I thought about it a little bit later on I was like. Actually know someone that can do that for Sean. So. Mike I'm just going to set him up. So I sat are Boy Sean with George Lockhart Oh Shit and George Lockhart and staff are going to go and like just give sean the full treatment and I think it's great because I think it's very brave of him to step into those waters of just saying like Hey, you know I'm GONNA turn my nutrition I'm GonNa turn my fitness somebody else and let them let the professionals handle it and let them come through and let them Them help me out is lighting. It's great. It's great. It could be you know super beneficial for the whole family and I think it's i. think it's awesome. So I just wanted to give. Michelle. Thousands I I admire that I think that's a that's great and then with awesome is actually Wayne had tagged all of us and the podcast on I believe his name's Anthony Lollies Post one m saying like, oh. Yes. You GotTa get him on Mark Wells Power Project, and then he responded and so we're we're working on scheduling him so. Shout out to Shawn's Co host Wayne, Jensen who actually set that all up our boys got our backs and so hopefully, we can return the favor and get him does know about these secret message day morning workouts they have over there at the hangar at the Dutch bros. hanger. They got this secret workout going on I got a Selfie from Wayne with your brother in the background I'm like, Whoa like, Hey, what's going on here? Yeah. They built their own gender there and everything we gotta go over and check it out sometime. Yeah it's pretty sick. Very cool. All right I'm at. Bell strength has never a week this week this never strength Catchall Ada.

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Episode 38 - Guest Victor Rodriguez - Baseball, Chicken Sandwiches and the NBA Bubble

The Spivey Special Podcast

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Episode 38 - Guest Victor Rodriguez - Baseball, Chicken Sandwiches and the NBA Bubble

"Today's podcast is presented by pod. Go PUTT. Go is the easiest way for you to monetize your podcast providing podcast with flat rate for ADS base. You always know how much you get when you include an ad from pot go. We recently just joined as members, and you can't to apply today to become a member and immediately connected with advertisers that fit your audience. That's pod. Dot Co at Peo de go DOT Co.. Welcome to episode thirty eight the spivey special podcast. Do we have a thirty eight. I've Kwami Brown. I think that's what we look at the lesson. It was very good, so we might just just A. It's number thirty eight. We'd need a good thirty eight in this world I. think that's what's going wrong. I think that we should train our children in both. Make them more thirty eight. Yeah I don't know you can wear one and sumo wrestling now. Put the number, my little sumo, wrestle diaper. I hope you're the coach. It's all. Sumo wrestle coach yeah. Am I like Mr? miaki sumo wrestling. You just look like a guy who's probably good at making rice. Signed the trainer. I'm the Dietitian yeah okay you like the model. How do we get this guy? To fit in this Jane deeper. Zach onboard. Yeah, you change diapers and you probably look like they do in diapers, so it's like a come up. I don't know if Kirkland makes them that big though. You have the up your membership to like platinum. All right I heard. You went to a tea party. Today was me about that. With three. Boston though no I do it. Three year old birthday party wild. It was on. Every was dresses and doing makeup, and then our sent him on other son was there, and they gotta play with swords and dinosaurs, which was cool. Cucumber sandwiches and fruit. You got your choice between a lemonade apple, so it was pretty raging. I'm a little tired from it today, but it was fun. Did they get the cops? Call them at this one. Yeah. I called them. And the party. That's ridiculous. Cucumber Salad on whole thirty cucumber. Sandwich Sandwich. Cucumbers on either of what I think. It was cucumber more cucumbers cucumber in the middle of cream cheese bread. Oh, cream cheese now! I think it was cream cheese. I'd kill for cream cheese right now. I'm on Day seven team what? Data's October, it feels like October up. On whole thirty. Had ice cream that was sweetened with dates today, and that was the highlight of my week eating food, so man you day thirty one year at the puts away back. We're not gonNA. Recognize really make it twenty seven because Vo's Bachelor Parties on Day, twenty seven, so. Where you guys gone, we're golfing in the morning and then we're going to k. one indoor kart racing. We're doing axe throwing, and then we're going to Morton's wow that a full day. Day was nice. You don't have to travel which I don't. We can't really do much of right now anyways. And I'm not driving the whole day, so no pro. Exit to go Kart I guess. Probably a golf cart. Kinda sucks as you can't really drink during golf down if you're going to do that afterwards. Why not! I don't know the rules. Don't know how good your fake go-cart insurances. WOULD NOT BE. Okay We have another person sitting at the table with us. We it'd probably be a good idea to introduce them. This is Kinda weird. He's just out of all right. Let's. Take a break and we will introduce our guests. The spivey brothers are always here, but who is joining them today. Who Is it who is? Sit Back and let's find out together with get to know your guest all right, troy, would you like to introduce our guest I? Would love to he's the man, the myth and the legend, and then also Victor Rodriguez here well. What's up, guys? It is an honor to be here and I'm super excited. Victor and I have known each other. Gosh. Thirteen years fourteen years something like doing the math. I think it's thirteen fourteen minutes I guess. It's been a while. Let's just put it that way. He's about to join the Club of being a dad to a boy Oh. Boy, Dad, yes, very excited coming in October Don't think my wife was excited as I was, but I am thrilled. Does get as many catnaps and long INS and whatever you can in now. That's kind of what everyone's telling me to get my sleep in now. If you look around the table right now, a lot of bags under the is I've only had like four cups of coffee today, so I'm doing pretty good. Is, I. Don't do coffee so I need either figure that out or do something because I can't be drinking. Energy drinks all the time. Why not! You you can. A lot of things are bad for you. They said smiling was at one point. WHO said. It was on the. Internet. All right well, our favorite Scuba Tabuk BOP BOP all right. We're GONNA. Jump In. We've got five not is normal questions as we gave to the character combine. Duo last week, but victor. We got five questions for you for get to know your guests now. We're going to ask you not going to be Spitfire like it has been in the past. He didn't listen last week, but we're GONNA ask you five questions. Okay. You'RE GONNA answering, take your time and just explain your answers to the listeners. Right Victor Number One professional athlete. Okay. What sport are you playing and what position? Alright so can I ask a follow up now? My follow up would be. Is this supposed to be realistic or is just like what I would love to do you do anything you want. You're not going to be professional athletes. That's very true. You're correct. There's nothing really realistic about question now that I think about it. I would go baseball player. I was left handed, and I was breathing and used to pitch, so I feel like that would be the thing that would be a lane that I could go through. I am not six five athletic, so I think basketball's out of the question I wouldn't play football because I want to get hit like that and hockey just seems way too hard. I think baseball with my best bet, I think pitching. You would kind of be. We're go restart coming out of the specialist. You closer question. I have left specialist written all over me. Don't expect me to get fifteen to eighteen outs consistently, but I can get in there and and get some junk going. Get a lefty out maybe. Doctors Real quick. What would you do? That would be professional curler. And I would be the sweeper or the guy that no initial the initial pusher guy I could see, and then I thought we were going main major sports I. Think if we're going like off brand bowling would be my best shot being. Now I'm just saying curling I. Think would be the most fun because it looks like those guys just get drunken they. Run on the ice I'd be an NBA center like the guys that won the gold medal head just started doing a couple of years. Look like the three of us just went out there and start playing girling, so we had a professional curler. We got a lefty specialist and we've got an MBA center. That's pretty good. You picked. Yeah, okay, so I'm not. Not Gonna I'M GONNA. Get my three point shooting down, but I'm just going to be a guy gets. REBOUNDS CLOGS UP THE PAINT I've played in of basketball. Troy to know that is definitely his Mo in a game is get down low. He may not have the size, but you can't question the heart. Just give me an extra foot and I'll be fine. All right we're. GonNa. Go to question number two. If you could have any superpower, what would it be? And what would your name be? This is a really really tough one for me. I try to take it from like A. What am I good at real life kind of standpoint and I think the things that I'm Alita are like texting and communication, so I would have to be some sort of like incredibly smart, super powerful person. It's really hard for me to answer, but I'm really trying to think through this right now. Obviously my name would be tastic or something along those lines, just because it's kind of my name, an like tastic or big tech stick. ooh, that's really texting. That might what if you're like professor x, but you can only use your powers for sending texts telepathically. That's actually incredible. I wish. I had thought of that. So are we going Professor v? New Professor Very. Okay I'm actually in on. That I mean 'cause that seemed like the most realistic thing on the fact that we're talking superpowers, and I don't know why I'm taking everything realistically, but I think that's the best one you must not listen to the show. Often be I mean I know you both, so I should know that, but yeah. I think that's great professor V. That's where we're going. I think I. would probably be the specimen and I would be invisible. So I would go that. I think I would be. I think I would pick flying. That's the most realistic. But not like a bird, or like superman more like a blimp. Probably if we're going to be, we'll find realistic game if I'm flying. It's like the Goodyear Blimp. Let's just say I. Do not want to be. The Guy Tried to hold you the macy's parade I'll tell you that right now. WE'RE GONNA go to question three favorite all time desert. that. I get a lot of heat in the with my laws for not being the biggest dessert person I don't really do like cake or pie very often. I'm more of a plane like ice cream. Kinda guy in general, but I will say my favorite dessert of all time is actually in Roseville at Tahoe. Joe's my old roommate. Brian worked there, so I'd go there all the time and they have a seasonal apple pie that is literally to die for like every time. I thought it was in season. I would go probably once a week. It's it's really good. I highly recommend it. What is the season so that I can go and give us? That's the best part I. Don't even know to this day. He would just come home from work and be like hey. It's in and I would just be running to the door. But I want to say it's like a fall winter e type seasonal thing. I. Don't know how many apples are coming out in the winter I. Don't know how that works. I'm not going to be able to do the podcast. I'm just going to be thinking about season. Apple Pie I think I also very well could been wrong, and it could be a summer thing I honestly don't knows it was actually a McDonald's Apple Pie at this point. It's just a memory that I. always think about because there's no Tahoe. Joe's by our house. All Right? What is the best sporting event that you've been to one particular game? Okay I've been to a lot of sporting events. I think that there's really no comparison to game seven against. The Vegas Golden Knights in the San, Jose Sharks action with a former podcast. Guests of Yours Kevin Winner. Taking the! He came with me there my season tickets, but that's a flex for me. we had a great time. The game was awesome. Ten minutes left down three nothing or captain. Joe Belsky. Gets, hurt and I'm like. Oh, the season's over. This is brutal. We always lose the game. Five minute power play the sharks for four goals and I've never honestly felt the electricity that I felt in that stretch like. I'm jumping were hugging the people around us. I'm pretty sure I heard Kevin Swear, which was like the first thing I've ever time. I've ever heard that It was out of excitement. It was awesome. Just the best. That was the best single game ever been to you. Guys Know My sports. History teams don't really win that often, so not even winning a championship being at that game that was that was top of the mountain for me. I remember that Game Wild. Oh. My Gosh again sharks SIA and then. Five minute you're like that just changed. That's the shot in the arm that we needed. Sometimes you gotta say yeah, the way they rallied behind publicity, getting hurt was incredible and ivory watched it like four or five times now on television every time I still get chills and I. Remind myself like you were in the building that night. So that's I? Don't think there's a close second for me. At this point for best sporting event have been to live. All, right last question. If you could be the owner of one company which would be. Great question, there's a lot of companies I would love to own but I think. I would want to own a professional sports team. Does that count as a company? I think just owning owning a piece of a baseball team. Maybe not right now in the season they're in but baseball team or basketball team, just owning team, and knowing that that's my team, and how passionate about sports? I think that would be my dream company down. How about you I would definitely own the cubs. Or whatever team play the dodgers in the playoffs so I knew we would win. That I, think I would own Wendy's could get frosties whenever I want. You can just come down and get it and. Shipped into my outs. Maybe get the machine in my house. Nice just have a restaurant in your garage. Our talk think it'd be friends with whoever runs that twitter account because that's one of my favorites. They're very good at what they do. It will blow you up in a heartbeat. All Right? I think that's how we got. I'm excited for the show. We've got a lot of fun. Things talk about today, so we're GONNA. Take a quick break and come back with court. All rise. It's time for the food court. All right this week for food court files. We're going to be covering couple of topics this time We have a subject matter expert here to help settle a debate. That society is having right now. Nothing really serious like all the crazy stuff going on, but It's still just as heated on twitter. Think anything else. We're GONNA be talking about the wool Popeye's versus chick-fil-a debate. And we have two sides here. We've got troy with the Chick-fil-a side and we have. Vic with the Popeye side. Maybe, both. Were in start with VIC. Tell me about this Popeye Sandwich. I haven't had a chance to try it. Okay. pod I'm stuck in my stupid diet, and I wanted to try it, but if I'm being honest. The Popeye's chicken sandwich has been kind of a passion project for me since it came out. I've made it a point to just tell everyone I know how incredible it is and I've started heated debates within friends within coworkers. CHICK-FIL-A has a huge passionate following, and it's a good sandwich. I am just of the belief that the Popeye's chicken sandwich is completely better in every single way, and and here's why. I will say this and we're taking service out of the equation, because a lot of the arguments I've had said that the chick-fil-a service is better than the Popeye Service, and that's fine, but we're talking taste taste only here so what I like to say is that. The chick-fil-a sandwich is like the tyree Evans coming out of the draft for sports analysis. Where you knew what you were GONNA get. It's very consistent. It's repeatable. The Popeye rookie of the year is you. That's fine. But the Popeye's chicken sandwich is your steph curry huge ceiling, but also people were worried about that floor right, but it's so elite that it gets passed. All of those other things that you're worried about, and you should take the high end high value. Steph curry pick. They're like the warriors did so. The Popeye's chicken sandwich separates itself in the Juicy Nisa the Bun. Bun because it has a Brioche Bun I think that's the word Brioche It's already pre buttered, so it just adds the sweetness to the bond that you just don't get with a chicken sandwich. And the chicken itself is just. If you put them side by side, it's juicier. It's bigger and honestly like I would choose a Popeye Sandwich every single time with that, said though triplets sandwiches fine, but I don't think it's necessarily even close. See I. Think the thing about the chick-fil-a sandwich. You know you're going to come in there. You'RE GONNA. Get the consistency. You know what you're GONNA get every time roll into chick fillet. They have really good sauce choices that you can add to your chicken sandwich and I think that that's the kind of the most important thing because when you have. You know a consistent average sandwich like you, said the chick-fil-a sandwiches when you can mix it up with the different sauces and just Bam Emerald. Kick it up a notch. I think that that's very important and like you said. chick-fil-a services a lot better I. don't even think that's that's not a question now. I would never argue that for a second. I have had some really rough experiences with Popeye, service but chick-fil-a always top notch. I will also give them the edge in their chick-fil-a sauce. The chick-fil-a sauce my favorite. Put on the fries, the Sandwich whatever I'm just very adamant that if you actually care. Care about just the chicken tastes and the with the bundies and the overall experience of having chicken sandwich. I think the Popeye's wins every single time there are very very loyal chick-fil-a Sandwich people who won't even discuss it, but at the end of the day it is hotly contested. Go on Instagram, twitter, wherever search it, it's it's very contested. I just think that it's definitely Popeye's. I think I'm Kinda jaded because I've been to the south where they have chicken restaurants everywhere and they have like Zach spy's and canes and. Whole Bunch of other ones that are just really really really good. We don't have that here, so I have a CO worker from South Carolina who swears that I would love Zach's B.'s because fast food. Chicken sandwiches are my go-to like whether it's I'll even have Wendy's. There's a place in the bay area. I don't know if they have it here called jolly that. That also makes a really good chicken sandwich That's kind of my Mount Rushmore of fast food. If you're in a rush, you can get a McDonald's or burger, King. Chicken Sandwich those are not going to be appealing I. think that the two that have separated themselves in the fast food in California at least four chicken sandwiches Popeye's and chick flavor single time. Carl's junior has a decent one I mean. It's not great, but for fast food. They throw together a decent product. I think that they're better rbq chicken. Yeah, I, think that that's better than the McDonald's one. I think the problem there is. That the Western Bacon Burger called. Junior is so good. That I would never consider even trying chicken sandwich there. So I can't even say that I've tried that. Why just looked up the menu for this topic I've never I always get the western Bake in two with Chris cut fries. West Bacon is is very very good. That's not a chicken sandwich. Yeah I'm always getting burgers. Aging. Yeah this is kind of awkward for us to talk about. Hey, let's move on to our next topic. Pretty excited about this one. I don't know that we've even talked about this on the podcast. Yet think we've maybe like the first episode touched maybe here and there. So we're. GonNa talk about going a catered event. Let's say a wedding or graduation party retirement party bar. Mitzvah Kingston era. I get. You in. All right so. First things first. You're you just got their? Ceremonies, over. We're going to wait for picture our or whatever? What are we hoping? Is there for appetizers? What are your favorites? That's a great question. I went to a wedding recently, that had gay Oser pot stickers and I don't think it actually been to an event that had one before. Or had those before, and it made me so happy, so I would say that is my all time. Favorite appetizer I've ever had I also love. Bersheva is that the word for Shutt-? Yeah, I love Shutt- and then anything with egg rolls. Those are always great appetizers for me. Now I've been a lot of these events probably like twenty thirty weddings in my adult career in I've had a lot of really good appetizers. been to one where they had deep fried macaroni and cheese balls that came on a stick that was amazing. The case of DEA and they come around, and you can just have a little plate with cases and salsas. Meat skewers just like beef on a stick chicken honest. And they come around the Teriyaki sauce for you. Dip It in. It gets kind of wild anything with bacon wrapped around something, cheese, and crackers or easy and I went to one where they came with sliders to start the game, and that was a game changer sliders. Awesome sliders good. Yeah I'm looking for anything. Bacon wrapped shrimp. More Bacon whatever it is, that's kind of my Go-to for that You touched on all the other ones. Now we had one. At the Wedding that we went to at. Apple Apple Hill. We'll go any further into that We had a little mini tacos. Those were so good I don't know what they are. Where they came from or how they got into our life, but I didn't want that. Experienced in I could eat like forty eight thousand of those, I think you eight forty seven, so you almost got there. Maybe that's why I can't find him anymore. Because I ate them all our there. I. Also this is not what you were talking about at all, but lobster dip. Here's a webster dip. Stuff's incredible. I've been couple weddings that have had that. A lot of APPS. Actually went to a wedding in. It was like half baseball themed, and I think they had like corn, dogs, or like kettle, corn or something and I was like this Mike New Favorite wedding. This is pretty read. It just really depends. We went to a breakfast wedding and they didn't have any appetizers, but we'll get to that later, but the food itself was so good. So like a fish hatchery. Different kind of wedding move so much fun I need to hear this story. Okay, so we're getting to our main course. Are we hoping for buffet or plate served vic? It's a great question or does it depend on the menu for both I think it depends on the menu. The main thing I always wanted at a wedding is tried tip. I think tried to purchase so good that it's always going to make me happy wherever it is so I generally hope for tri tip, if not I kind of like a pasta, so whether that's Fettuccini or something like that those are kind of my go-to main entree. kind of things but yeah, if the buffet is going to have three or four grade options I'm always down for that. My problem is like. I. Don't know I want chicken for months. You know I, don't know Hong feel on that day I like to show up at the game. I don't know if I'M GONNA drop thirty or forty in the first quarter and I I gotTA. Have options. You know what I mean so I. Like the Buffet. I like to be able to go up there. You know diagram the plate, the way one and just make sure I execute that plan to perfection. Plated when I go to the wedding, I, WanNa know what I'm getting into ahead of time. I WanNa know what I'm looking forward to I got plan. How many appetizers I'm going to eat? How many disguises I need a break so I keep getting more shadows. And I also have to plan accordingly for how much GonNa Drink, and all the different things that go along with that also when you get plated, you usually get a higher quality food so rather than a mass produced. Try Tap or something which can be good. We get more options now. We're getting like we're going to. Winning is going to have lobster lobster buffet. That's the old debate. The quality over quantity and I think you're onto something there knowing in advance. Bite off so to speak during the actual meal. Definitely helps you plan the rest of your day better than kind of a buffet where it's. We're just adapting on the fly and we're seeing what happened so I. Think you're onto something there. But you always find one good thing above buffet just played that up. Good. So, what is the entree that you're looking for and you said? Try Tip and fit Cini those are those are my two favorite I've been to plenty of weddings have have both. But. I think my Go-to is always tried to. And I know you're not as high on it as I am I, think it's something that's easy to eat at a dinner while also maintaining the ability to dance and get up and you're not feeling too way down. And, let me unless you have seventeen slices. But if you had a good portion of it, you can still get up. Enjoy the dance floor. Have a few beers. You're getting yourself ready or adult beverages I. Don't know if you talk about peers on here. Seventeen too many! Tri Tip tonight. You lost me to here, the last said. For Me Entree wise I'm steak or chicken? Those are usually going to be with fish at the end of the buffet. I'm going to make sure I get a couple of those. You can do different things you know. You Got Chicken Parmesan Barbecue Chicken and there's a lot of different things you can do with the chicken. Even put it on a sandwich chick-fil-a. I like I. Like Pasta you know you throw a big thing. LASAGNA at the end of the buffet I may or may not raise the roof. Chicken Parmesan CH- shrimp. Fettucini that Victor's mom actually does a little bit of catering. She throws together. That is a top tier meal right there for entree. Wise, Zach! I'm hoping for a seafood like a salmon, or maybe some shrimp or I know you don't like it as much but shrimps okay I just say. I, what I like about is if they are willing to make salmon for enough people at the wedding. You know it's going to be higher quality. Yeah, I'm also a big seafood guy, so I have no problem with sex picks right there. Those are those are great picks. AGO along with it kind of sets the stage for what kind of food all around it's going to be if that's an option, we're doing pretty good was jump into the sides. If you guys don't mind, what are your two sides, you can talk about all of them. Depending what entree pair him with? But what are your sides? I love mashed potatoes. I'M GONNA. Go with those every single time if they're there. If a wedding venue or wedding is going to have MAC and cheese. Always grab that. Green beans things like those are just for me on my sides for sure. See if I'm going to talion with my Lasagna I'm raising the roof with. I'm going to like a good garlic, bread and salad to pair with that. If I'm going with the other stuff like you said like bacon mashed potatoes. Fully loaded them if I'm GONNA put them on my plate. Actually a salads, not terrible with some croutons. You gotTa have croutons unhealthy dressing. If it's healthy I, send it back. Mac and cheese. Yeah, I like a good rice to pair with my chicken steak or tried tip at the end of the meal, too, so if you've got a good like rice, Pilaf he can even mix in some carrots or other vegetables with my rice I'm okay with. You you covered most of them. I want garlic garlic mashed potatoes. If we're GONNA, get him. Not just regular ones I want some sort of differentiator between them, and I want not necessarily garlic bread with like a dinner roll with like a big old thing butter that I can put on there where it's just like a big old glob and one of those weird flat, little spreader things those I hate those butter squares because like you gotta go get one. Put in your pocket dance, a couple songs, and then come back to the table, so it's not enough to put on the butter square like a big old bowl of it like Danny. Noonan has in Kennedy Shack and I want to choose how much butter I get and be spreadable. That is a dangerous game. You're playing there with Chacho. Good roles are also dangerous. Eat three or four those your full, all of a sudden, and you're missing out a lot of your meal, but they're great for making sandwiches out of the food that you have I. Love a good rice. Pilaf Sandwich you're right. Right so we're all full. We dance around a little bit now. We're going. Victor touched a little bit on his favorite dessert. What mass produced desert. Are we going to have at the end of this? Party. I think if you're talking weddings. You're usually GONNA get some sort of cake, right? It's going to be whether chocolate vanilla. I think those are is the easiest for a big group of people so most weddings. I've gone to have seen that, I I know that I've also gone to like donut parties, and the always creamy your wedding and my would. Selfish plug right there, but yes I know that those are really create and popular super easy to make them. Everyone just grabs her own doughnuts. You're cutting into things, but yeah. Those are kind of Twos I. I'm very biased to to donate situation there. I want cheesecake. That's what I'm looking for any meal of. We're going to have dessert. Is usually not a super huge piece, though because it's made for everybody, and there's usually if we're at a wedding, there's also wedding wedding cakes like the least thing that I want to have. We the Candy Bar at our wedding, which was nice. We just like been big bins of candy that you can feel see. It depends even with the meal entre. We talked about the number of people at the party with what kind of dessert you're going to be able to get I like US smaller, more intimate thing where maybe I can get a Brownie Sundae or something like that for dessert I don't know how they're gonNA make it. If I gotta go in the back, I'll go in the back. Usually wear a vest right look like one of the service as they won't know I'm there so that's what I want. Something like that or if you have if you want, invite me, do a party and like half Tros. That's if you've listened to the show. You know that were big big. Tro Guys. Big Big. Yeah! Whether the rest of that. All right one more thing. We didn't talk about yet. What is the plan for an open bar? Those are the two best words that you can hear when you get to the wedding. What's Your Game Plan? For me I think it really kind of depends on the environment of the wedding and what my vibe is. If I'm having a good casual time, want to have a few beers to get loose. Before the dance floor eight Oh five coors light very like standard beer guy. If I'm trying to in my early twenties, I should say. I probably wouldn't do this anymore with. Rage and party I used to be a vodka red bull guy for sure I've kind of switch that up. A Jameson seven up. Or if I'm really trying to class up that I'm an old fashioned guy, so it really just depends on like what lane I'm. GonNa in kind of in that night, you know. I usually try to pace myself. We'll start with maybe a beer to Kinda the key is to make friends with the bartender. That's their one so that I can get extra, but I'm not supposed to get extra drinks. Maybe tip the first couple kind of forget the rest of the night. I like I. Like Whiskey sours. And I like a spivey special. They'll make it. Happen you gotTa Bring? Your own mountain do. You GotTa Bring Your. Own Mountain dew for that. It just really like Victor said. It depends on the party at you Kinda got get the vibe during the ceremony and everything like. If you're going to end your role in the wedding, Oh yeah! People, don't know you. You might want to kind of go a little bit low brow I just to get to feel, but if you're in the wedding, and you're not like one of the main parts, just go for a while the guy at the end of the row. Go for it. Your groomsmen sixteen. I. The one rule about the open bar is you can never be drug so never beat the drunk at the party. You can be the second drunk. Just don't beat the druggist. My game plan is I like to go vodka cranberry early and often like Zach said you tip. Ten Twenty Bucks on the first couple of drinks. Just in case you forget as the night goes on, and usually you don't have changed anyways, so you know you can flex a little bit during those first couple of drinks. And then usually I'll switch over to beer usually blue moon. They have an orange. Put it if not I'll go out to the orchard and pick one start cutting the table. I don't care. It's a lot of calories of going too many beers. Ten fifteen beers deep, it's. Like, a week's worth of calories right there. Like I said just don't be. Don't be the junk one there and just. Don't take advantage too much of the open bar. especially as we're getting older early twenty s US three different story, but early thirties us. Yeah I'm good I. I'm not waking up with a I. had in the morning. It definitely hits different in your thirties and it. Doesn't you early twenties? That's something I've learned I have the option of sleeping for twelve hours the next day, so I'm going to be joining that soon with my child coming so I. I'm GonNa. Feel that soon. You have to keep that in consideration that you're going to get like six hours asleep like best case and not in a row. I Three Beers I'm hung over for two days. All right I think that's all we got. We'll take a quick break. We're going to go heavy on sports jog today, so we're GONNA. Take a quick break and we'll be right back. Do you like the sweet taste amount do do you like your vodka to both inexpensive and flavored like melons? Beverage for you. 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They're still shooting super low, though I think the leaders like thirteen hundred golden tomorrow. I don't think they're playing very hard course. They're not gonNA bite like a US Open style course with no fan I love the. bethpage and I wanted to have to hit out of the FESCUE. That hasn't been not down. With, only one spider, so it takes like ten minutes to find the ball, and they have play it back from the T and take a penalty stroke on a lost ball. I want that I've been watching golf this weekend and I haven't really noticed that much of a difference like obviously you notice. People aren't there, but golf is very conducive to not having fans. It's almost like the three of us went down HD camera and And recorded around I mean they have state good shots that we don't take, but it just feels very true. You know there's not people they're spotting everything for himself and your announcers aren't anywhere near where the Gulf is so a lot of. It wouldn't feel too much, and it's really you don't get the big energy until the final days, so it's it's The Sunday round where it's just gonNa feel weird. Come down the stretch. Big One. One the news chain all the time. We have NBA playoffs. We're starting to get hard dates. Looks like July thirty first will be the first day of Games. They moved it up. It's on my birthday July thirty th now according to watch, it's GonNa Change Fifteen Times before that, but I think it's weird to have the Kings in this conversation. How long has it been since we're like kings, the best part is all of us. Kings fans, like Oh the kings are coming back and they still might not make the playoffs. No, we might get like. Two weeks out of them. We get an extra eight game so good for us right? All right so we have so in the Western Conference, which is where we had the kings. We have five teams fighting for the last spot. They eat see so we've got the grizzlies. They're currently. They're pretty far out in front. There's three and a half ahead of most of the teams, but we have. We have some teams that are holding on to hope like. If we had finished out the season, we're going to make a run. Yes, especially, because the grizzlies were hot, cause Diane came back Portland finally figured it out because somehow Carmelo was helping them. It doesn't make any sense, but they started started. Play better. Lillard started playing like MVP level. The kings figured it out. If any, if anybody I helped with the quarantine is the kings who were like the least healthy team that I know of. And they got him all back there. Healthy now never played together and they're all young I. don't know what's going to happen, but they're in the hunt. The Spurs are in the hunt which anytime they're in. They're going to be trouble Popovich with some weird. And then the Sun Surges. They're just they're. They're sons. You come out awry, move. So of these five teams, does anyone have a shot of being lakers? Because that's who you play to beat the Lakers. No? The Lakers. I mean. Is this all in vain? It's going GonNa be fun. It's GonNa. Be Exciting. I really hope that we I hope that we get that plan. I hope that one of these teams finishes closer than four games to the. I. Mean People Forget that? The Grizzlies were decimated by injuries at the end they were just like the Kings. They had a ton of injuries. They were going the wrong way I thought that they were going to slip, but they also had three months off to get healthy, so I hope that someone gets within four games because I would love to see if you know, someone can win two in a row against image. Be Fun to see a play, and it's something we haven't seen. Lebron Anthony. Davis just meshed so well in that Rosser so deep. Pains me to say because I. Don't think there's a team in any sport that I hate more than the Lakers, but I I mean you're basically playing to get four, maybe five extra games of the playoffs, and as brutal for the owners, because if they make it, they think the revenue from having a sold out golden one center. If the Kings do sneak in for those two playoff games, so. Yeah you're right. They're playing to get in and get. Basically they're the brakes. beat off of by by the Lakers so go ahead and break down for those who don't know and haven't been following on NBA twitter and all the podcasts that you guys listens to. How is it, GonNa work with this play in game. Yes so everyone who came back was within six games of a playoff spot, which is why the sons got invited and how it works is the grizzlies are currently the seed. They're three and a half games up on the blazers, the Pelicans and the Kings, and then their four games up on the spurs spurs just had lamarcus Aldridge have surgery last week so I think they're kind of already thinking about next season, but. If anyone is within four games of the grizzlies by the time, the season ends, which is eight more games. They'll have a plan now. If two teams are tied or more teams are tied. They're doing win percentage as tiebreaker to get into that playoff, because the blazers of played two games more than everyone else, so their percentage is technically higher right now than us and the puck the Pelicans as well. But yeah. If you get into that, play the game. You have to beat the current eight seed twice in a row to take their spot, so the grizzlies technically can get in there lose the first game win the second. They're still in so if you're the nine, CJ got to beat the eight seed twice in a row to basically take their spot, so it's basically like adults off Yadda. Go double double. It's absolutely a double dip situation. I Love I just I just love that it's different. It's new. It's GonNa. Be Fun now. Let's talk about these eight, so it's with eight game season that they're adding on so after the eight games. That's when you have the four games even qualify, and it's just the one team that has the best record of the ones within four games that gets those match. It won't be a two or three team mini. Mini tournaments if currently there's three teams within four games, but it's only one that get that shot, so if the blazers the Pelicans and the kings all go four and four, the rest of the way, and the grizzlies go four and four, and the playoffs start with the standings right now. The Blazers would technically because they're win. Percentage is the highest point a one or something now. The kicker to this is that. You're only playing. Teams are invited to thing which is just the twenty two potential playoff teams, so this is like a murderer's row schedule last eight games. Let's talk about the king schedule okay. I want to see how many games of these you think they can win. Because realistically, they need to win like. I would say at least five. There's no shot if they if they go four and four, I don't think there's a shot that they finish it within four games. I was like the Pelicans and. The Blazers. You'd think that one of them would go over four and four, so that's kind of where I'm at with that. Okay let's talk about the game so first game Pelicans. They actually played the Pelicans. Twice go pelicans, nets. Mavericks Rockets. Magic Pelicans again and they finished with Pacers, Spurs. Now Spurs as your last game. That's best case scenario because it doesn't sound like they're gonNa have I. I would say the Spurs Win I would say you split. The PELICANS sets to and one. I think the nets with no Korean, Kevin Durant winnable game winnable I'm not saying the win, but just for kicks. Let's say that's a win. So there are three and one. You said Rockets Mavericks Okay Mavericks. That's a loss. Look, Don such. My favorite heavy seen pictures of Luca I did, but he was do a little cardio. He'll be fine. He's got a four month and a half to get back shod cardio. I mean he does look out of shape for sure he's. He's not implying shape, but the day they announced it. That's going to be over a month for him to just fully go into longer than an MBA training camp. Anyway, you remember being that age. I don't even. Think. He's twenty right twenty or twenty author. Speaking of that. Have you seen what Yoga looks like? He is shredded. He yoked. Yeah, the NBA is in trouble if he's actually in shape because he's always kind of in a bigger yeah. Like if he's in good shape, that might be different now. He might not get to play the same way because he's not thrown all the way around like Barclay used to, but. He might be in good shape. You might last a little bit longer. It'd be interesting. that. I know we like to sidebar from time to time, but let's get back to what we're talking about. I think with the Mavericks and the Rockets. It could be interesting to see. Because, they might already be slotted into their. Spot so we don't know what I know. They WANNA play those eight games as full as they can to get back to where they were but I. Mean it could be to the point where they're not playing the full game. Right obviously when you get to the second half of these games, you might be locked into where you're at. I think you're totally right. I just don't think at any point I'm going to put a rockets game as an expected win. I know we've played. Played tough this year. Be Elites, a hit that game winner we can beat them, but anytime James Harden is being guarded by the Kings I'm expecting forty five to fifty points, and I won't predict a win, but winnable games they can beat them average. They've proven it I just I would put that as quickly playing their same style of just chuck threes. They're just not good at it so with those with the two Texas teams. Got Us at three three three right now. We've got a couple more. All right, so we got the magic that we are to count the magic. No, but I'll put that as a win I think we're better than the maverick four three. We need one more Pelicans Louis did that when you both. Of them. And then Pacers Spurs. We did this difference. I begin to win on that. We didn't so the one of the Pacers, and I think the pace. Let crushes the first time we played them. They're tough match-up for us. They've got really good bigs Depot got time to get healthy to my my my my heart says we're GONNA. Lose that and go four and four, but I mean I would love to say we win the IT'S GONNA be. It's GonNa. Be Really close like it's going to be tough and this all depends on how the other teams in our positions are like. Do I think that the thing that the kings have going for them is that they're a young team and this is almost kind of like AAU tournament where they're just going. Hey, we're going on vacation to Orlando for tournament. They're like all right. We did this last year. Let's do I think that they can get hot. They can run. They can hit their shots and empty arenas. They could be dangerous to go to five games with the lake, so that's why. It's just eight games. There streaky EST team ever couple of get hot buddy gets hot. They can beat anybody I will say counterpoint though you need like two of them to get hot. You need a couple of hot, and I also feel like I mean the kings aren't necessarily a young team? It's kind of false advertisement, but I feel like just watching kings games that they really thrive on the home crowd more than a lot of other teams, and not having a crowd like. The NBA is so momentum driven that like, do we? How does how is it gonNA look when there's no fan so like get players juices going you know I'm super intrigued by it. I've seen so many NBA. Games optima sideline where it's clear as day where the momentum is and I'm really interested to see how it is without fans. You know that you're going to struggle. Harry Giles that guy. He plays off the crowd just every game that guy he does. One good thing gets a crowd into it. Then get seven thousand. That's come out of the game, but that guy loves to play off the crowd. Harry Giles has to be one of the ultimate fan favorites right now. We all love him the energy he brings. I really hope they can figure out a way to keep him long term I know that the contract stuff is a key and it doesn't look good as far as keeping him, but Sacramento Loves Harry Giles. All right, let's talk about. Let's get more into King sock because we finally get kings back. They're gonNA play in some sort of. Almost playoff situation. Now we have a lot of question marks for team that is within three and a half of this aid seed I've got three positions written down I. Don't know who the starter is now. Deer Fox GonNa Start a point. Guard I think. Olbermann that he better or Luke might not be the. WHO STARTING AT SHOOTING GUARD! You Got Buddy or bogey. Who who would you put as a starting? So my question for you would be. Can't I start them? Both I'm very? Small Ball? I'm very small ball so. In a perfect world for me, I think I go, and I don't know if this necessarily works because I. do think that buddy has been way more efficient off the bench but I love the idea of a Fox bogey, buddy, Harrison, barnes, and Rashawn, starting five, because that's still leaves you scoring off the bench in be leads. Marvin Bagley hopefully is going to come back and a couple other guys, but I think that gives you four guys who can score and shoot the ball and spread the floor, also keeping your big man who? I know Rashawn at Holmes isn't a big name, but in Sacramento. We've realized he's super underrated, and he does all the little things. Carry the able I think that's probably the lineup. You'RE GONNA. See like late in the fourth quarter, but I don't think starting the game with that. It's going to be good because I think it's nice to give buddy rhythm early when he comes in off the bench I, think he gets that because he's the Alpha dog on that second. Second, squad, so he gets a lot of looks and a lot of shots when he comes into the game. Yeah, if you're not going small and just going your traditional five I think I'm still leaning bogey over buddy in the five. Because like you said. I think he's buddy is super efficient off the bench. You Have Barnes, the three and then be Alita as a four who can extend the floor and shoot the three, and you still have homes at the five. Obviously everyone wants Marvin Bagley. The number two pick to get a lot of playing time and be this big transcendent person since we pass on Luca Johnson for him, but at this point he's he's not there yet. He could get there, but he needs to be brought in slowly. He's so much time with injury. So Bagley gotta be the face of your bench with buddy, which honestly a lot of teams would kill to have a buddy Bagley lead bench. Yes. You got so powerful was the other one had so we've got we've got. Beata, you've got Harry Giles and you've got Marvin Bagley. And of that group. B. Elite, so it'd be the one that I. Want in their. Alex Len for me, but Yeah why not even home Twin Towers? Let's do Alex Len is the choice by. Centers. The five of them are the five center power orders. They're kind of interchangeable like you can match any of these ones. So you go, be billy to len or you go. Oh, you Glenn All. Kidding about Len. No I was a little bit, but I think with bringing Bagley back, probably going to knock off the roster. You're not going. Have that many big guys especially in. We're GONNA. Talk about roster size and a little bit so not today's NBA. Yeah, I don't think you cut lynn necessarily by definitely think his minutes he's. Hurt secondly he has been, he's been great for us since we got him him and Ken as more for those traits really helped us when we sent Trevor Rees out and cleared up some cap space long-term i. mean those have been really great person. It's almost to a T.. We got those guys. The season Kinda turned around. Yeah, that's when they got hot. Yeah I. Think be elites an go ago homes I want my traditional team. That's when their best Barnes's point pretty good defense on the wing. The really bad defensively when bogin buddy are both at the same time and I think they're shot is. Good team defense. And you say good team defense in the kings that's. Just wanted to confirm I'd thought I heard something. They don't play it, but they're capable of doing it especially, if bays more gets minutes off the bench, they I mean. They have people that can do it when when homes is out there when Lynn is out there when Joseph's out there like the second unit can do. Do. Good things defensively now. The starters aren't super great at it, so they gotta just hit all their threes, but. I think they can if they can hold their own defense, a lot of these teams in the West are just. Trying to his many threes as possible, so yeah king, starting five can score with anyone. Can Play Defense and the bench can play defense and can score a little bit I like I said I I really liked. The can bays more acquisition. I think he's really. That's why I want buddy coming off the bench because they need the score in the second unit. I agree I am just very all in on small basketball. I think the rockets are fun to watch the five guards. I like the shooting running up and down, so that's why I would be privy to going four smaller guys, but I. Definitely see the value in having two bigs. You can get rebounds and play will defense in the post. and I think also still extends the floor which helps. WHO's guarding Zion. Pre question no-one. no-one into. That's let him get his points and then just try to stop everybody. Else's at the game plan. All right I think that I think that wraps up kings. I think they can make a run. We'll see what happens. Sui Really Fun. Everyone's going to be rusty. They had already don't have a lot of minutes together, so we'll see how it goes, but I'm excited to watch it. I just want basketball back so bad. Nobody knows what's going to happen. Anything kings could go eight. No sweep the Lakers. That sounds ridiculous, but we don't know Lebron could show up. Get Corona. He gets sent home, you know. Could. No one knows is the day by day week by week. Thing going on right now. We don't even know if it's actually going to happen July thirtieth. Yeah, there's been a lot of pushback from the players in the last couple of days as far as not feeling safe and wanting to be. Aware of the social climate that we're in with what we're dealing with and. It's GonNa. Be Really interesting to see if they do come back, but if they do come back like you said, it's GonNa. Be a daily like. Instead of health updates. Instead of injury updates literally going to be health updates like everyone pass their temperature tech today. Everyone is clear of grow virus. Let's test again in three days. You know I could just see the Vegas. Guys peak it in the temperature readings each morning. Oh, that line jumped eight points. You're literally just guessing okay. This line moved astronomical amount. So who is going to be announced with corona virus. isolates. Let's talk about some of these roles and the bubble, so we've been talking about the bubble on the PODCAST. Just because that's what's there, so they're going to be playing in Orlando at the. Ball Disneyworld right Disney world resort that they have their It's basically just the players their families. The refs. A, handful of media like it's a really short list. But they're there. They can't leave. don't forget all the Disney world employees. I'm sure they're gonNA. Have to get tested to where they all these tests, but they have enough to test everybody every day. Not Doing the. I think they're just doing the mouth swabs I think they were pretty adamant about not shoving the one of their brain and doing that one as miserable, but they're testing every day if they do test positive. You're immediately out for seven days. Regardless of radic the NBA. Finals Lebron gets corona. He's out for seven days so you might miss a whole round if you get it so like them sticking with the the bubble, which I have my doubts about them, bringing people in like. They were saying that family WANNA join. They have to like preemptively quarantine as well right well, everybody does so before they even get there before they can get into the bubble situation. Everyone's on like a seven day lockdown. they're allowed bigger rosters because of the automatic seven days missed so instead of your twelve man roster. The normally have you get fifteen? on the roster and you're able like the player pool just widened pretty significantly on who you can sign like right now normally this late in the season. You couldn't but. boogies out there. Jeff Smith's out there. Jamal Crawford out there. There's names are some players they can help. That wouldn't normally be available like right now. Which is Kinda neat, but. It's confusing on how you do it because if you want to sign these people, you either do it before it starts and add them to your fifteen team roster. Or if you wait until, say be elites gets corona and you want to replace him with. Boogie 'cause it'd be hilarious. He has to wait seven days before he can play. So it's like you got a load up now I. They should have gone the UFC route and just bought an island, and just moved them all there for a couple of months like. It's just really tough. You know in in where we're at tell vs adults. You can't leave the Disneyland resort. You're stuck here for this long, you know. Everybody Yeah. I have the media. People are talking about like I. Don't know if I want to go the whole two and a half months I might wait till the second or third round before I go, it's going to be really interesting to see how it goes, and and I've heard that stories of like players being able to opt out if they don't feel safe and. It's just there's so many moving parts to this. It's GonNa be really interesting to see how it is, but I know that the sports world is desperate to get sports back so. It'll be really interesting to see what happens. Yeah, if I'm on the sons. I'm like guys I'm good. We don't have a very good chance. I'm just GonNa stay at home i. Am Carmelo's like. I. Don't know if it's worth it yeah, it was I was reading that it was basically Carmelo and Kyrie. Irving kind of who we're taking the role of of what are we doing here on their on their call yesterday so? Like I was saying, there's just so many moving parts. And it seemed like a week ago. We were good because the players unanimously voted to go ahead with this plan. And now it seems like twenty five percent of the League is questioning it, so I'm really interested to see what happens, so not only do. We have the coronavirus going on, but we have like the black lives matter protests going on, and a bunch of these people want to be involved in that and they're just like. Is this worth it? Yeah, and they're questioning like. Playing basketball. Is the message going to change from? Let's get changes in our culture and society to basketball's back. We aren't thinking about that anymore I i. totally get that so and they're locked in Orlando, so they don't have the same voice that they normally would have. But I think one of the main things that's GonNa come into play, though is is the CBA and their paychecks, because if they canceled the playoffs, I was reading that there is a loophole that the owners can just shred the CBA and work on something new, and if they get quote, unquote screwed out of having their playoff. You know money come in. They might not want to give the players the same piece of the Pie. They gave him in the last CBS so I don't. Really tough to see them not coming back in some capacity for money reasons, or they could base the salary cap based on revenue including this season. Really screw the players if they wanted to. So I think they have to play. I think all the top players in the NBA were on that call Lebron's not getting younger. He's not gonNA skip the playoffs. He only does this one. Make sure the Lakers are there. Yeah, he knows as one of his best chances to get another ring, so they might be the only team there, but the Lakers are going. Lakers three other teams. He will drag them all their. Every team backs out on the bronze like hey. Hey Orlando Magic come and play in the NBA finals with this. It's just the two of us. We have we have five guys, so we technically way. My Ring. As crazy, so I'm looking forward to basketball, though we actually were starting to get hard dates for getting. Report dates for getting the first game will be July thirtieth or July thirty first all with the capability of things back if Some things don't fall into place. Playing into like October. They're gonNA be going against football if football comes back which? I! It's really quiet on that, but I think they're just kinda waiting. 'cause they can wait at this point. Yeah, and I think another like Cabbie to. That is the NBA was already discussing changing their calendar to a more like December schedule because they wanted to kind of avoid a lot of that, NFL Competition and I think they wanted to go more into the summer because they knew they could beat Major. League Baseball and so I, think that was kind of their plan anyway, so this kind of giving them an opportunity to to just organically shift that calendar, instead of a regular season, ending in June and then being like okay cool. We'll see you in December so I. Think the NBA obviously doesn't like having the coronavirus here, but I think this might make that plan for them. A little easier to go with if they win like December to September that's fits them a lot better because that June to. To September month. If you're not a big baseball guy, that's probably one of the most July's like one of the most boring sports months I thought. It was weird that they're trying to go against NHL playoffs anyway. It's not good for either of them. They run basically concurrently now they've always run at the exact same time, so which is weird and hurts the ratings for both of them like hockey. Get a big boost if their playoffs going on during the regular season for basketball, yeah, if the NBA were to shift their schedule, you'd literally have all four major sports having their playoffs at different times which. In theory should help them all. It isn't help me when I'm going to the sportsbook. Gamble and that's for sure. Just Give Me March madness next year at all I ask for. All Right! Let's talk about baseball. What is going on with baseball? We were supposed to have baseball a long time ago. It's a sport where nobody standing next to each other. Anyway, this should have been a done deal. Just take the fans out. I literally was thinking the minute this all happened I was like thinking. Baseball will be the one. Yeah Baseball Baseball will come back. You know and golf make sense. Baseball makes sense. The one thing we do know is. We're going to have baseball this season. It just might be ridiculously Improv to like fifty games even so. They're just going back and forth. They look really bad. They're negotiating in the media. It's just really ugly. It's one of those things where the owners come back with three offers, and they don't think that we know how to do math because they give a new offer. That is the same percentage just different games and it's like. Guys. This is simple math like we figured this out. You're not actually offering the players anything new offering them different amounts of games in the same amount of pay that said it's just. It's that time of our in our society where it's really hard to feel for people who are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year like it's different for minor league players who are not getting a lot of money like I genuinely feel for them, but these big leaguers who are making hundreds of thousands like. I get that. They are not getting a great deal, but at the same time like it would be really good for our society to be able to like watch baseball and enjoy it. But again it's not the most important thing There's a lot of important things going on in society, but baseball just a really bad luck right now all going back and forth in the media, not being able to come up with any kind of compromise. I think it's tough for baseball. Because it's, it's a regional, you don't have revenue sharing you have teams like the dodgers and the Yankees, other huge TV contracts, or whatever we've got the money and then like. The as which is like, go away. Don't do that to me. That's my team. The Miami Marlins go away. Go Away like they're barely holding on as it is, you can't lose the season and they can't afford to overpay the players. Even the base can barely afford to pay them as it is now with a full season, but we are going to have a season that's already been established man for the Commissioner has the ability to just assign amount of at the players have to play now they can opt out and if they're not someone who has at risk there. They're going to basically forfeit their money, but they don't have to play, but they're going to be a season. It's just a matter of how many games they're going to assign and. It's just interesting. How much validity is there to a forty eight game season? Really you know. I it's just really ugly, and it sets US up for after next year. Just an ugly lockout 'cause they couldn't negotiate this in a time where we all hoped that they could do it like and they haven't got any closer so I. I feel like the hard feelings are really going to stick through these next negotiations after the twenty twenty one season. Well the thing that's hard I don't think baseball's looking at. If you look at the big picture, Baseball's getting passed up all the other major sports. I think hockey's even getting close to their numbers and. If. You would have said that you know twenty thirty years ago. You'd be like man. You're crazy, but baseball. It's going to the back burner and things like this I mean you would think baseball would wanNA come back. I kind of like the UFC did. They would be the only major sport going right now. You're getting everyone looking at you. All these talented young players that I don't think that they promote very well, but let's not get started on that, but they don't do a good job like the NBA does like football does with promotion and all the stuff that they do for. The MLB is lessening a lot of people younger than us. They're not gonNA. Watch baseball because it's not sexy. I just don't think baseball is in a healthy enough place to be out of the limelight for eighteen months if they don't if they didn't play this season at all. It would just be catastrophic and. The whole thing just looks really really bad on every level, and obviously my wife works in Major League Baseball, so we're always thinking like next like if this doesn't if if things don't turn around like what is going to mean for her job, if revenue doesn't start coming in, so it's just the whole thing sketchy right now, and we're just as big baseball fans. Really hoping there's a season. If if man going to assign a number, I'm hoping it's going to be around seventy because I can at least swallow seventy under fifty would just be crazy. You're not even a five man rotation. You're getting ten starts ace for a full season like that's unheard of well I mean anybody can be good for a month and a half. I mean not the orioles, but like most teams can be good for them because you look at most of the time. Two months in the person in first place is isn't GonNa Usually Win The division? 'cause those best teams. The best team is usually the division winner after one hundred sixty two. You can't fake it. It for one hundred and sixty two games. Yeah, just Kinda go with the as an example the last two months they've been well under five hundred two months into season. They get hot mid to late run of the season. They've won ninety seven games two straight years so with this schedule. If it's that Short, those teams aren't going to have a chance to turn around, so it really is going to make the beginning of the year so much more important, and if they report next week, they're going to have what a three week second spring training. I'm very interested to see how already pitchers are. Starters can even go five innings. It's going to be. It's GonNa. Be Really interesting to see. What do you miss the most about baseball right now? Let's get away from our disappointment in their ability to actually play games. What do you miss the most I just love going to the Coliseum I. Know It's an ugly ballpark. This is actually my first year getting season tickets, so it was a great year to join the as season ticket club, but just being at the game whether it's with your dad, or with my wife or with a buddy, just hanging out watching a game, it's the most casual sport to watch, so you don't have to really like. Be Super focused all the time. Like it is with like an NBA game or a hockey game. You can kind of zone out have great conversation. I missed my tradition of seventh-inning roundtable at the coliseum. Like these are things that I do every time I go to a ball game and I miss coming home at night from work or finishing work. Knowing that ball games are on and I can just turn the TV on and and I know that these like I said these things in life right now. That are super important like what was going on in our country is important when you to follow it, but I also sometimes just like to turn it off and watch a baseball game and have some sports to distract us, so those are the things that I think I missed the absolute mouse. I would agree with that I. mean after a Long Day of work. You come home knowing that your team's Pyner even okay I'm GonNa Watch the royals play the angels tonight I. Care Less about the scam and have it on his background noise. The eight to one run game, but see what the these bandages do. Let's see if we can just hit off the moon. Those kind of things that I'm miss. It's just the game itself and all the little things that you don't think about the managers do with. And I was excited about the new rules with the relievers. How wasn't they have to face three guys now? Yeah, unless they ended an inning before the third batter. Then they come out, but it was supposed to be a pace of play rule. I dismiss it. It'd be we put it on during dinner. And it's just like relaxing in the background. Soothing voices from your announcing like the first half of the game doesn't really matter in most cases. We didn't all listen Vin scully for most of our lives. We were we were spoiled with Vin the new announcers are good, but it's not the same. But Yeah, just relaxing with that. You Watch the game. It's June if it's good, you stay up, if not, you go to bed. If you've got a team in the west coast, it depends how much money you got on the game. It's the seven and a half you know. Run spread the first few innings. Do Matter. You GotTa get some runs early. You know little crooked number and the first fueling good I mean this doesn't. This doesn't actually relate to troy because he roots for a team in the central, but like could you imagine with how much you love? The dodgers like moving to the East Coast and having all their game start at ten P., M.. So, we visited heathers parents they they lived in the South and North Carolina for a while, and we went back there and we We landed. It was late. We got in for flight. It was like eight o'clock. We had like late dinner. Look at the TV and it was Monday night football and I was like the Games just starting. It's dark outside. What's going on why the light on the TV, this is weird and we got there. We got settled. And it was the first game the NBA Season House or I. Don't watch the Lakers I. WanNa, see these I want to see I think it was like Lonzo or somebody. Back there homeless first game. has like. The game starts at like. Eleven o'clock at night am I really GonNa stay until two o'clock in the morning to watch the Lakers lose to whoever this. visit! A Boston go to my buddy's wedding that we've talked about a few times and. We go to the rehearsal dinner then we go back to the hotel. We. Go to the restaurant and the same parking lot. And it's late. We made it to halftime before we're ready for bed. I mean it was probably one of the most boring is the first football game in the season to? The bears they're hackers. It was like nine to eight or something stupid I used to visit my cousins in New Jersey like every summer and. I was a fan for as long as I can remember and I my days would just start so much later over there, because I was committed to staying up until one o'clock to watch the game where there's on my ipad or my laptop. I had to watch the Games. I would just think to myself like. How do these these people can't? This is why east coast. Bias is thing. These people aren't staying up to a one to watch west coast sports like every night. It's just not happening I think it'd be harder to have a nine five in Hawaii, though. Like you, get off at five lies here and the East Coast is starting at eleven in the morning. Yeah Yeah Bailey and I went to Europe late. Late breakfast and like the cubs are on. It's amazing yet. Bailey and I went to Europe last year and it wasn't like it was in September as or in the in the stretch run. We're trying to win the division. We didn't win the division just a little spoiler alert. But like the as games were starting at three in the morning, and I would be like. What do you think about me setting my alarm to catch the game and she'd be like. Don't even think about it like. It's just wild times under for sports. Pacific is definitely the best time sports fan. We have it best no matter what wake up on a Sunday morning. Roll out of bed. You got football at ten. You have to wait till one o'clock that happened to me. I went to visit my cousin, and we were going to a redskins game, and it was Skins Eagles one o'clock game time. And I'm like wait. What do we do until one o'clock and he's like well. We get drunk obviously and I'm like you can't. The game starts one. This is crazy like I'm supposed to have a MIMOSA and watch the game in the morning like this is wild. Drunk by ten either. I. Think what I'm most mad about with the MLB right now is. We're missing out on precious. Astros hating time right now. I've already signed a petition. The two thousand and twenty one will be the year that we get the Astros back. How many? How many like? I'm blown away by how easy the Astros are getting off with this whole thing like the GM and the and the coach. You get kicked out for a year. What Aj Hinch is GonNa Miss Fifty Games of coaching. Cool. He can come back like the players were anticipating. Getting booed relentlessly every city they went to, and now they're gonNA. Play in front of. Of No fans, and then now there's this thing that saying that Texas might allow fifty percent capacity at stadiums and I read, baseball might allow it so like we went from thinking. The Astros were only inning at boot all year to now the only people that are going to be able to say anything to them or their own fan, so it's like. I as as fan. I hate the Astros I didn't think anything of them until recently and obviously them being good changes your perspective on it, but what they did and. How they have not been sorry at all about the entire thing, it's more like I'm sorry. You're upset kind of a situation. It's just rub me the completely wrong way. I'm sorry that we got caught. Yeah, exactly, it's not only Gosh. We really really bad and like hurt the validity of the game like obviously I'm contractually obligated with my wife working for the giants to be happy that the dodgers didn't win the world series because of it, but at the end of the day like that a huge impact on that series. I like to call them. The buffalo bills the L. be, but that's just. How come the Red Sox aren't getting the same heat that the Astros are. For doing basically the same thing, and then also winning a world series, was it the same, though I know that they were I know they were deciphering stuff off of cameras and such but. Most to get the report we run. Maybe they submitted it when we are all not paying attention I know that they came out with it, because obviously, Cora got suspended for a year from what I've been told or heard before the report. Was that okay red? Sox were just like he got his for the Astros. They that's. The Red Sox report like within the last month. Paying it what I? What I been under the impression was they were deciphering stuff in the Dugout, but they weren't beating trash. Can on every single pitch, so they knew exactly what was coming. It was more of like. This is. For the second base runners transport i. mean they very well could have been doing things that I didn't know about from what I was under. The impression of the Astros was pitch by pitch. We're being in a camera tour. The cat trash can twice for breaking ball wants. Nothing for a fastball to the red sox were just deciphering their in their clubhouse. It's just kind of a bad look to the last three. World Series Champs. Cheating. Zach right. Who won last year? My team. Not The national yeah, the nationals beat the Astros. Knowing that they were cheating and they had like seventeen sets assigns or something like that that they would change over every batter like they knew there. In the last four years, the dodgers have lost to the eventual world series champs. He got to beat the best to be the best right. Yeah. Isn't that True Yeah Sixteen? To sure. That's right. It makes you feel any better I would much rather lose now I. Don't know it might be hard for you, but I losing in the wild card game every year is really frustrating, winning ninety seven games, and then one and done. It's pretty a game seven against the Astros because they're stealing the signs and waiting on sliders, and just hitting them to the moon for the first couple innings. Until we figure out what's going on, and then it starts to even out again. It's pretty frustrating. Teams are never good enough. Go to the championship, so wouldn't know what that's like but I. Imagine it's pretty rough. All Right? Let's move on from baseball because I'm certain against that over here again. Maybe I don't want baseball to come back. Crush me again. So you got to work in the locker room with the Kings. One of the coolest jobs that you can have. Yeah, as a as a young twenty year old. It was the coolest job. I think six or seven seasons. I'm I forget now, but I did it for a really long time. Ballboy would be my unofficial title official title Locker Room attendant. But yeah, some really cool moments got to see a lot of really bad basketball up close, but. You couldn't beat my seat. So the first couple of years I was the kid on the floor with the towels when they'd come off hand in the towel. And then the last four years I was there. I was the guy behind the bench who did drink so became gatorade specialist, a water specialist I knew who wanted what kinds of bubble gum. Who wanted a heat pack at each time out so I, knew all the INS and outs of who wanted what Certain guys wanted special drinks had a couple of guys who were half gatorade half water. Some guys were like a quarter. GATORADE three-quarters water so faint. Yeah. Yeah, so there were a lot of different things, and it was a lot of fun. You got to know all the coaches. The players were more to themselves a lot of times. There were some really cool, but. Still really cool experience working for them. You can't beat the seats. That's pretty cool. Could you like when you're sitting back? Bobby Boucher in it. Could you see the court that well though? It depended who was on the bench. Honestly, if the seven footers were sitting on the bench like when Boogie came out, I'd have to like a myself. just because they're so big. It's hard to see over them. But most of the time could see it for sure. It was so cool like I. There's A. Gift or Jeff. How're you say of demarcus cousins on the bench celebrating and I'm like in the back of just sitting there, so I like jokingly Senate to people all the time and say hey, this is a gift of me Boogie and they're like it's more like Boogie, but it's pretty fun. To put that on social. Oh. We definitely will. Got, any fun stories that you're allowed to share a no. You're on like some suit. Double secret probation I mean a lot of it is just stuff that you. You can't really share, but like there were a lot of really fun stuff. There was some really cool dudes. The can't came through I think Costa Pufus. One of the coolest guys that came through Sacramento is King just a tunnel like movie knowledge super down to Earth a lot of them. Aren't that way if I'm just being a hundred dollars with you, but? With Francisco Garcia one time He was at half court and he was like Hey Vick GonNa make I'm GonNa. Make this shot and you know they're an NBA player and you know they're just really good, but like making a half court shot still seems really hard, and he goes if I, miss it, I'll give you one hundred bucks, and if I make it, you have to do one hundred push ups, and I was like twenty three I was like. Yeah, this sounds great I'm you'RE NOT GONNA? Make this shot, so I made the bet. And I kid you not. The most perfect Swish I've ever seen in my life, and then he tells me he doesn't want them all right there, which was a good thing because I probably couldn't have done hundred right there. And he wanted them in increments of fifteen, so for the rest of the season. It was kind of like. If you watched how I met your mother, the slap bet it was kind of like that. Every game for the rest of the season I would go, and it'd be like. Is this day that he's going to ask me for fifteen pushups slaps giving. We'll say spoiler. He actually forgot at some point 'cause. I only ended up doing like fifty of them. It was sixty because it's bad nath on Times fifteen. I did like sixty of them, and then he like forgot the rest of the season, but it was one of the funnier moments because all the ball boys were there, and they were looking at it with me and they're like. Take the take the pay a hundred bucks. I did not get one hundred bucks. What kind of math is Francisco doing dividing one hundred fifteen. Don't know it was weird I. Mean I think he would have forgotten there, but I mean. He clearly forgot it, but he was went to Louisville. Yeah, six and two-thirds. Yeah, he definitely did not make me do all hundred, so that's good. Who who who's your favorite came to hang out with us. It goes to Kufa's I. Mean he was the coolest in the locker room? For sure we didn't hang out with them much outside of the game. We'd get there early. We do whatever the equipment manager needed so whether that's setting up the locker room. Getting stuff from the practice over to through the court. Or just setting up the floor itself or rebounding all sorts of stuff pre-game with them, and then post game. They kind of just win with their families and stuff, but I would say my top three kings of all time. That I really liked. Costa for sure is up there. I really liked to do can vary under the radar very cool, dude, and then. He gets a lot of hate because he is in the greatest coaches I guess, but regime Rondo was awesome with me. super cool a lot of them. When you're a ballboy, don't take the time to learn your name. He was the first day like what's up. Man Regime. Nice to meet you. What's your name say? It's Victor and then expected them to never remember it and then every day a bit. Go Man. He'd ask you about your life, which was like unheard of when you're like a twenty three year old an MBA. Guys asking you what you're up to. So I think those are my top three. That I really really liked. Now, looking at us, you know that we like food. Do you have any good food stories? Like what do they eat in the locker room? Compared like what normal do like. Let's say to the Kings. Get like a group meal or they all kind of eat separately. Yeah, so staff and all of us. There's a media lounge where you can go eat. So that was one of the fringe benefits of being on the on the team. We go eating there with like all the reporters. And he peers, and all of them were in there, eating before the game players before the Games would have like they had a Dietitian who would like make their meals and stuff for the game, but afterwards they always had an incredible spread, so was always usually cooked in-house for the home team. The visiting team would have like our staff. People go get them stuff whether it was like in and out or something like that but after an NBA game they eat really really well, so there was a a family room connected to the locker room at the ARCO. Arena, 'cause my last year was there last year there, so I never went to golden one center. I like to say I retired with the old stadium but there was like a family room right next to the thing and there would always be. Girlfriends, friends family, whatever waiting after the game for a lot of the guys after they took their showers, and did their media, responsibilities and they always had great spreads so every once in a while before they kind of changed the rules. We would take so long to get ready at the end or get done with our work that we would actually get to take the leftovers home as well so. We ate really well generally on game days I would like skip lunch at work. My regular job knowing that I would probably have to meals at the kings game one before the game, and then one of leftovers afterwards. Don't even pay me. Yeah, I mean it sounds like the food love honestly worth it was awesome. That's just cool to be in there with the guys. You probably saw. No, you can't talk about it. You probably saw some pretty cool stuff that yeah I mean. I was in the locker room for the famous George. Karl demarcus cousins thing so. That was an eye opening. Moment I was like. Wow, this is happening right now, and it's one of those things where you're in it and you know that this is going to get out to the media, and it's going to be a huge story and. I think boogie gets a bad rap I. think he's really funny like him and aren't like friends or anything like that. He would probably never remember if he saw me he'd be like. Who are you and I would tell him and he'd be like Oh. Yeah, okay, but I think he's really funny. super competitive obviously can be tough on teammates. I've seen some of that. Just you know, he's a real guy. He's not GonNa be faked with you if he's not happy with you. Is GonNa let you own if he's? Going to let you know so. Those are just little things that I noticed about him in my years behind the bench that you know just a little little guy. He doesn't even realize as they are most of the time, but you can. You can hear some pretty crazy stuff, but I met a lot of really cool people in the organization. A lot are still there, and they're awesome people and. Hoping that the team can figure it out and give them a winner to like work for you know. I think that's what the fans deserve to. One of the best fan bases in the NBA. We're just waiting him. We don't even care. We're happy with the nine seed. Would kill the play in game even if they lose the first one to the grizzlies that'd be like account that one. We had a somewhat playoff type game in Sacramento or four Sacramento in Orlando Yeah in Orlando the grizzlies with no fans. Are Anything we're going to wrap up sports. We went long. I had a feeling we're going to, but that was a good one, so we're gonNA, take a quick break. We're GONNA. Do a quick recommendation time we're in rap ship. Have you seen this show? Best Tacos ever. This book I just read. Getting its recommendation to right where you're going to do a quick recommendation, time or to start with VIC. Name something book probably not a book something show food. Okay! I got this Eighty trees saw somewhere my wife and I actually. Big, Shout Bailey. We just finished watching the apple TV plus. Defending Jacob mini series eight episodes. It had literally on the edge of my seat and I am generally a TV movie person who spends most of the time like on twitter and texting, and just kind of like like side I watching the show. And this show had me literally phoned my side face down vibrate, so I didn't know stuff was coming in to me and I was fascinated by the show. Just really good. It's based off a book. I. Think I want to add the book to my my little plan for the next few months of of reading, but the show itself is incredible. Can you give us just a basis of the show comedy drama? Ritz man it's definitely a drama. Suspense drama so to speak Chris Evans is like the assistant. DA IN BOSTON In his son is charged with murdering a classmate at school, so the entire is kind of. Taking you into how the parents handle it. Is The son guilty or not? While also just being very very very suspenseful same time. Any other recommendations you got anymore more shows or Currently watching, Arrow, and the flash I'm not really ready to recommend them, but I'm on that journey right now. In the they call the air over so. We're also watching Veronica Mars. This corona virus. Time is watching a lot of random stuff. And I know you. Guys actually talked about space force once already, but we watch through that and it was really funny, so. Just an ECLECTIC group of shows that I've been watching lately, but I would highly recommend defending Jacob and Space Force for sure. Zach? What do you recommend in this week, anything? Sleep I don't know if you guys have heard of it. No, I was able to get a night of sleep almost the other day, and it was the It was one of the best days of one time. Actually knew it was going on. My eyes were all the way open? It was pretty good. Nothing that I would recommend. We need to laugh, so get on spotify or wherever you listen to music. Let's stand up comedy. I would recommend Mitch Hedberg. Or Rodney Dangerfield, those are my to go to's and they all once Absolutely love I Love I love Mitch Hedberg and I love. I love old school comics. Give them a chance. For some reason through my facebook feed I get a lot of videos of comedy and I always watched like the three to four minute clips, and there's a lot of talented talented comedians. facebook wants me to watch every roast. That's ever existed, metoo. What's that one gal that does them? Nikki Glazer's laser, she that's the only video I get that and then jumps selves. Other comedians for my recommendation this week I have a deep trek song that I think you guys should all listen to. It's called holding on by Gregory Porter featuring one of my favorite artists Kemp's. If you haven't listened to that song, holding on by Gregory reporter featuring Cam. It's it's just the Banger he got to listen to it. Another semi deep track anniversary by Tony Tony Tony. On the way over here today, just today's going to be a special day, not just any day. Just really really good song. And then I have a couple weird food combos for you guys I don't know if we've talked about it on the shows, but if you've ever had. Spaghetti. And I've heard of Spaghetti. It's this new invention. I like to put ranch dressing in Parmesan cheese on my spaghetti. If you've never had it, you should try it. The reason it came up with because I used to not like sauce. The salad dressing would sneak off the salad on this Spaghetti and Mike. This goods I just. Cut Out the middleman, and my last Weird Food Combo that I. Think you guys should try I like to put cheese. It's on Cinnamon Graham crackers, so just put those together. It's got this weird, just delicious taste. I don't know the cheese in the cinnamon they like. Get together and they throw this party that you're gonNA. Think that it's nineteen ninety nine. It's a pretty good mix that they have together so. More recommendation. Now I thought it already that. Don't hold thirty and I normally. Don't enjoy eating foods that are on this and I'm very depressed for thirty days, but I ended up being thinner, so it works out. Heather made. Like Fried Rice. But with I considered rice. It was like Broccoli and carrots and. Cauliflower raised up, but with like eggs in Brown beef, and she just threw it altogether, so you should find her on social media and ask her how she made it, so it becomes public so that we can all eat it. It was it was fantastic. Sexiest just wants her to make it again and once you tell her because of. He tells her she won't make it again. Basically, that's what. I want her to recreate it, so she knows because I think she just made it off the top of her head and I need her to be laser focused on writing down the direction, so we can have exactly how it was today. All right before we jump into the wrap up of the show. Victory got anything else you wanNA tell your fans. I just think that I have one more recommendation now that I would think about this food wise My wife and I have been doing hellofresh lately, and they have a lot of really cool deals when you first sign up, and it's super easy, and the meals are incredible so for us. It's been really great in this current virus, and not have to worry about ordering out or figuring out how one of us is going to cook, because it's got all the directions and all the recipe stuff already done for you so hellofresh free advertisement. Sorry, you're not supposed to do free ads. But that is something that I. Recommend you guys in here's Victor's referral code. Zach hit us with the rap Oh. All right. I think that's all we got for the show today. Thank you to vic. What was your your twitter handle or whatever? Oh hit twitter at Victor Underscore Rod and the number six ooh. I love it foam on twitter. He's very active on MBA and. Most. Are Cast stuff and I enjoy it. It's great time. I'm all for it. Make sure that you follow us on. Social Media's will add spivey special. Basically everywhere do that I do that I that it's way more important. We would like to thank our sponsor pod go. Another pod go at this week very happy. That were part of that team getting those ads sent directly to us a lot less work. We enjoy that. Good Platform makes you check that out especially if you have a podcast. Super Cool to work with. Check out our website. SPIVEY special podcast. Bomb find about next week's guest. 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MadTrio Podcast - Episode 094

MadTrio Podcast

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MadTrio Podcast - Episode 094

"Welcome to the matt trio podcast. This week we'll the california pariah. Jonathan charney james the fatman stevens rob the old guy. Who's drop seriously just disappeared again. These days well maybe fun. Dropping drop does drops drop. I know this is so talk about something that won't be dropped. Drooping soon erectile dysfunction drug mix up with depression. Medication causes nationwide product recall. It's a tennessee. Based pharmacological company announced wednesday that that is volunteering recalling two drugs one that treats ed and the other depression after product a product. Mix up the results in the medication being inadvertently packaged together. When they were bobbled by a third party facility a russian roulette you can either be passed with an erection. Yeah it's spin the wheel. What are you gonna get that makes for an awkward evening. could be especially. If they're sitting there with your pastor and you talk about your impression sir can you just. That might turn your back to me. I really very uncomfortable. Oh boy so we talking before the show. Something that i thought was interesting. That i thought would be worth the discussion and Something james mentioning. So i'm gonna james europe were discussing. Beforehand was the fact that the restaurant industry is basically in the death rows Because of all these shutdowns. And the fact that i mean we don't know what we can do half the time we can open up and it's like one minute opened up. Yeah and then four or five days later we have to close down possibly due to go orders. And so i mean the thing about the restaurant. Industry is consistency. Is how you sell. If people don't know what to expect they're not gonna show up. They don't know if you're going to be open to. They're not gonna show up either. So it's just it's really screwing all these little tiny mom and pop places. Because as far as i can tell it doesn't seem to really be affecting fast food joints except for the fact that fast food joints are getting more Probably doing a lot more revenue than they used to. Because that's about all that's open. If you want to grab something quick that you don't have to cook yourself well. It seems like you need a drive through so if you have a business. It's a food related business and you drive through. That's your only answer. I was looking at the few the Drive through businesses in our area. And they they all seem to be booming where unfortunately the smaller restaurants the boutique style restaurants. That i prefer to go to You know. I can't blame them some days. They're closed when you want them to be open and you go and they're not there and so that doesn't help and then only thing you can do. Is you know Pickup take out. Whatever you wanna call it. And i drove by in and out on the way home Last week and this is about seven seven thirty at night and there were like thirty cars in line now is just been in our areas. It's been going crazy i did. I don't know how many people know this. There used to be something called an automatic. Basically it was kind of it was basically fast. Food basically we. Yeah but the. The the traditional like classical twenties automatic was basically walk in a building put in a couple of into the machine. Lift up the door and pop it out and so i think the vending machine like japan may end up being. You think that would end up replacing to some degree. Because i don't know. I mean as far as i know those have never really been popular The never really see them much anymore in. I mean i at least fifteen years. Everything i've seen on. I know been granted. This is youtube. So everything i've seen on youtube. That's newer current. Or or maybe. It's just westerners because you'll see a lot of westerners going onto all these We'll go visit japan. And they go to automats like these grouping or buildings of vending machines and there's all these wacky products. There's all these standard food items. So they they seem to be all over the place but the one thing i don't know is how common is that everybody everyday people use these. There's an old my favorite youtube video. There's an old guy who has a hot curry vending machine and he'd grows on rice and take damn now. We want curry well. I you know who knows what the what the pictures look like. Down the road here here. You know this is gonna lead from. We're going for the business angle lead into this vaccine that supposedly is going to be the great savior of the world. Which i think still has a lot of questions about it and of course probably get a fair amount of heat mail once we start bringing up the fact that hey. I still not sure that this is a tried and true vaccine no matter what they say. I've got a doctor going. I have a doctor friend that i just talked to hussein. Hey you know. I'm being forced to take this vaccine. Because i'm you know i'm first responder. I'm a doctor working in a hospital. I have to take vaccines. But i don't really wanna take this vaccine. There's a number of reasons you know. Well i mean first of all. This is the first time i type of vaccine of its kind ever formulated and put together completely different than anything else number two is he starts talking about one of the problems with the vaccines that we have now is that they're either Full of full of the either have some mercury or now. The newer vaccines are all preserved. He says another metal. You don't really want you know so so there's another issue that's that people aren't talking about and so we've got a lot of unanswered questions going on with this and jump back to the food inches industry. What neural are we going to do to be able to get the food industry back when you have a governor estate in our case california. Who does says they'd do what i say. Not as i do right. He was caught eating out at a restaurant after telling all of us that we couldn't do it. He's bopping around everywhere getting his ten minutes of fame on television standing there you know standing there. I looked at an image of him as arms crossed standing there and watching the i suppose Nurse in the state of california getting her vaccine with the healthy doing that could be. You know his his. That could be construed to play. The devil's advocate would that be would be construed as him being leader being doing the the president and he s. You're right that's his two minutes of fame and everybody wants to get every five minutes. I mean every governor and every president wants their third time to shine. But i think this is the time and i heard a guy on television today. Talk about if you wanna make me feel better about getting the vaccine. Then you damn well better have. Movie stars politicians everybody. They're lined up with their sleeves. Rolled up getting those vaccines first. And then let me see what happens to them. I wanna see. Carter get it. And the only reason why. because he's the he's the oldest. I think he's one of the oldest living president or you. The old is not one. I wasn't sure if he was or not but if he does it and he's fine and carter. I've actually more impressed with card granted. I wasn't alive during his presidency. I'm more impressed. I'm more impressed by the man now than reading about his presidency. Yeah jimmy was a very nice person there was. You could not say one bad thing about i. He was a horrible president. So you're fat cousin when you're trying to hook them up with somebody you go. It's a really nice guy you now. Let's you know there's this little problem. Don't worry about it. You're going to need the flatbed to pick him up. He's a wonderful person. I did want to mention so. I heard that the art the vaccine was an rn. A vaccine or an m. r. n. A. messenger ornate vaccine wikipedia the bashing all knowledge so mileage may vary after hours. So is it type of vaccine that uses a man made copy of the natural chemical called messenger. Rna to produce an immune response the vaccine trends transfix molecules of the synthetic aren't human cells once inside the cells. Vaccines aren't a function. As a causing cells to build foreign protein that would normally be produced by passengers. Pathogen such virus or cancer cells It's an interesting bit. i don't wanna read the whole thing. Because to be completely honest. I don't completely understand it. The type rna. The wikipedia on comes on there. There's actually a bit the talks about efficiency of vaccines for coat. And in nineteen a says it's unclear. Why the novel covid vaccine for mightier Maija and biotech have shown potential rates of ninety to ninety five percents. So there is more information on there So i as as rob was saying you know it. It's untested this one. The first ones of its kind and annot potential to use this for fighting cancer and other things i got. This is the perfect zombie. movie leading. that i've ever heard lets. Everybody take this vaccine detergent zombie. I've seen so many means out there. And you know. I gotta say the interesting thing about the living in the twenty nine twenty twenty is you can really tell the thought process of a lot of people now by just a means they get pumped out now and what i keep seeing now. Are all these ones about that if you take the vaccine you're more looking at us on auto funny thing because i feel like country. Yeah it just feels like all those movies and books leads starts in with everybody's got to get this shot so now they say that i'm thinking about a couple of things either meal. Yoke of it shows up in a red dress. You've got will smith or your or you got a a redneck wearing. Hi sean. Like the daisy dukes. Drinking moonshine shot trauma. I keep saying a lot of the i am. Legend ones The will smith movie of people are taking this back pain. And that's what's going to happen so interesting thing that i haven't seen i've also seen it as a rainbow being the ones that are delivering the vaccine and that's Demilio of its one for people who don't know what would be funny interesting thing that exactly. What a lot of people are thinking. Is that what it's going to end up being. I know i can't help it. I just that's just the way my brain's going on. No you know. I don't know but you know we were back to the to the restaurants in in the whole situation screwed up for a lot of people i mean. We're really only running. Basically two to three people in the restaurant to to cover the shift. And i'm even looking at how much we're making a day and i'm like it's not covering overheads. Yeah that's really what a lot of people are gonna think of is. I mean out of being open seven days a week last weekend. We might cover overhead. Maybe four four out of the seven days. And that's a that's a tough thing. And i and i don't blame are my boss for even having to think like can i even financially do this so i know it breaks her heart to think like that but you know i think of it as an employee i think of it all the time you know can can. Is this financially stable for her to do this. 'cause i mean at my job i know. But you're right. Because look at all your your. Your restaurant is not is not alone. I mean in our area. We have a lot of small boutique. Rescue boss five restaurant this year. We oh wow. I didn't know so. Does this mean walker shoppers. The most recently all really the one. They're gone. They are closed for good. Now that's what killed it. Wow damn if they had a dedicated following believe it or not. I eat there For a couple of years at least once or twice a month. I would eat there and i mean they weren't the best but you know for a waffle place. They were pretty decent. They did okay. They made it okay. Well for a couple of eggs. It's not that difficult. So no i agree. I used to you know when i was going over the facility. It's down the street from them. I would stop it in the mornings and quitting done. That's too bad. I'm sorry to hear that. So i i. i have a question. 'cause i just thought about this. You know when they rebooted Pizza hut they basically were these little tiny takeout style restaurants. You know were no dining facilities like they were back in in our youth. Do you think that's going to be something. This more. Small format more cookie cutter lower. The overhead is the only way you're going to survive. I mean it might be. That might be what comes back. But i just to say it's a sad thing they're thinking of how many actual restaurants are gone or in their death. Throes right now. Because of this and i mean it's just a tough situation because we also have to look at it up. I mean fucked for this whole social distancing thing but you know yeah so even even chain restaurants aren't immune to this because Did i not just read the other day that olive garden is completely gone. Well damn so. Mc basically said they're going to run out a cash soon and that's one of the reasons why they were and it's not a restaurant but i know they were bitching because of Of warner brothers. So at this is so. I don't know because you know. Shut down every movie theater. They they did that weeks ago. three or four weeks ago. And just you know. I don't know what they're gonna are the. How long can they just sit there. With the reds. Let's still do every month. So here's now here's a question. I guess if you had six seventy you twenty million dollars after covid was over one business. Do you think would make it. Because here's my thought. And here's kind of what i think. We should base it off as is various harry. Cumby give me a million dollars. Put it on red as ride the red line. Watch out for seven lions one. I think with people staying home. Now it's going to be. I don't think it's going to be his much now. I work but i do think it's more common. People are going to be allowed to go to work. So you're gonna have a decrease in certain things you know whether around businesses food places i think with less restaurants and other things are going to be a unavailable. Maybe less entertainment options. So i think it's going to be a lot more based around home so i think places like that ride sharing food service. I think is definitely going to stay around for a while. i think it'll don't think it'll. I don't think it'll be as big but i do think it's going to be there for the long term because i think once you get people used to things they're going to do. I like uber uber. Exactly i have not personally done either of those so i have no house up here. I think we have hubs grubhub. Yeah there's another one. They do that up where i'm from. They got people from around where we were looking at that this week it at the restaurant is getting on one of those and i think it was the post. Whatever post may have been the name. Yeah i think that one is available in this area but nothing so what i heard heard about them at least now. I don't know which which one of them but they take thirty percent of the ticket they do. I mean what's left so now you've got gotta raise your price so high that people are not to work. That was i think. I think that's what's going to happen though. In some ways until somebody figures out about or Super shitty example. Excuse me like applebee's makes her own service. She of appleby delivered. Yeah you know. i think that's or you do. Maybe like amazon does have a locked box outside. It's warm locked boxer. You have. I could see that. That's a clever idea. Go ahead put your pizza. The lock bucks over there in safeway on boxes. It's warm and you know you have to just enter the combination. Richard a warm cubicle though right exactly put it in that that the refrigerated one. Now they're gonna put that light over roast beef that's for forever right Get some more rubber chicken gun. I think I mean i think my beyond or something with the that i mean. There's gotta be something like that where you have somebody who provides a service to the restaurants to get to the customer and that's really what has to be sex because that's gotta it's going to up the prices of everything. Yeah you know. I mean that's the one thing they teach you when you go through culinary schools the more hands that touch your food through the process more processing it goes through the more expensive. It's going to be at the end makes sense. Sorry but it's just another thing that's going to have to happen. And i think in that sense it's gonna continue to deteriorate the desire for going out to eat and maybe right. The the only reason why. I'm hoping among because they have another idea is the fact that there's still this. There's still a need to go out. So i still think there's that desire to leave your house because a guy who maybe got out once a month i miss that like because right now all i do is work homework home and people need that little break. Whether it's the movies going out. So i guess the question is what's going to and if it was twenty years ago it say okay Drive ins are going to make a comeback but woodland being as expensive as it is. I don't see that coming. I see pop-ups being more popular. But i don't see dedicated dress coming around and it may be you may be right about that I don't want driving back. Yeah i think. I think would be nice but i don't know i think john's right at me appear more. Yeah it may be worse. Pompously pop-ups speak a lot of sense to me versus sure. I mean if they don't have to spend a lot of money on infrastructure that's the whole idea of a pop up right. Is you know you're not spending a ton of money to be able to make some money. So yeah i mean field somewhere or or like an old rena like arco arena out in sacramento or. Let's now a medical facility. Is it still thought. They abandoned that they opened the backup search happening. Well perfect they have an audience. I between all the respirators sounds. That's here's this movie. I'm sorry no. I was gonna make a joke with as bad as an acoustic arco arena. Everybody's gonna be death I don't know anyway. It's it's so part of this is going to sound funny but a lot of times with my wife and i we call it the because we have Home cooking fatigue. You guitar to cooking you know and you just want i i completely understand. Yeah and it's like mechanic. Most of the time you know heard so many of her mechanic saying when you're when you're off work you don't wanna go home and work on caller. I wanna do. When i get when i get off. Work is come home and often. Just go right back in the kitchen. And it's you know russel's kinda way to get out. It was a way to socialize. It was a way to you know because we we hit all small restaurants. The smaller places. We didn't once in awhile. We'd go to applebees not my favorite place but but you know it's You know you try to find a nice boutiques by the way in. This won't be for anybody unless you're in our local area one thing. I didn't understand recently. And maybe a listener can tell me the starbucks on broadway you know where the starbucks and broadway yep. It's cloudy it's close close closed permanently. Well went lights are off signs in the door. Nobody in the way that is the that had his drive through is always backed up always busy. I know i'm acquaintances with somebody who are friends with somebody who works at who has worked for the bucks in the past. I'll have to see if they know. I don't get it. I went by there not a month ago and they were they were closed and i looked at it and it said that they were just temporary. I wonder if it's become permanent. Leads along temporary. Because it's i just thought today's ago so i don't know i don't i. Don't it surprised. The heck out of me because i mean there's no. They're not franchises. So it's not like maybe the one the one with Over the missouri. Flat lake kind of shut him down. You know what it probably is. Now that i'm thinking about it and it just just might be up. This might be true or may not now. That starbucks is everywhere. It's in the your local grocery store it's in there. Maybe because so much contraction in the amount of people going out and buying coffee and pastries that those things were starting to really eat their lunch. As long as it's drive through. I don't understand. I never saw that starbucks lawyer slow every ever and no forget. That's on the other side of town so yes going somewhere off of you know the safeway shopping center where you have a big starbucks all by itself starbucks within safeway across the street you have starbucks in the target. I mean you know. Yeah okay so you got three starbucks right there Yeah that's just crazy to me. That have i know unbelievable to when we say i don't win. Rob roy took my my sister night to canada for family vacation. I remember was an airport or mall. I don't remember but it was literally it was. It reminded me of telegraph avenue in berkeley. Except when head shop and food places it was starbucks and thomas kincaid galleries because like all four corners. That's what you saw. It's like so. Apparently canadians really love thomas kincaid. Because i don't know a whole lot of people personally liked the guy and the the thing about starbucks especially if you go in the seattle area is the joke was there is literally a starbucks on every corner and when you worked in downtown seattle. That literally was the truth. I don't know how they did it. But i don't know it's weird you know. That's the thing is like Southern california when i was down there is. I mean yeah. There was literally starbucks and everywhere everywhere. I keep brothers is gonna see. That's the benefit where i live. There's two of them within like twenty feet alma. We don't have one. Am you tried the lovebirds from no. I haven't have you. They're actually pretty good all right. I'll have to go. I really enjoyed their Chris breakfast sandwiches. They actually get baked. Croissants or baked locally. Wow so i was actually pretty impressed by those a. I wanna try. Is they have a blueberry cheese. Danish to wears this brief single time. I've tried to order it. They're out must be popular as one of the things. I wanna try. They're just see why they're constantly out of hm interesting. Yeah i isn't making them I don't wanna get up at six. Am in the morning. we'll good idea. I have to get up early tomorrow. Maybe i'll hit them first thing. I'm morning that then. I'll tell you. Let me let me serve you on it. i will. I want to shift back a little bit. We're going to get i wanted to. I got two stories sitting on for a couple of weeks because jaundice keeps on raining and continually going on and on and on and on and never stopping and all or even taking a break debris are cbo thereby tori has gone. We've talked about that. Is that amazing on that one. Yeah from gold. Knife yet is sad. But no they're They're cables snapped. That held their their center cloned they're focusing coil. It got damaged during the earthquake. Oh really i thought it was a typhoon. Tell ya the and then they said that there was a crack that came along from like a shift Which would be an earthquake to me. Yeah yeah so it got damaged from that and then just the hasn't been used for a few years because of the damage to it and then it just yes. He said the cables finally gave way they only had people there basically monitoring see when it was finally gonna go. There's a video by the way of the of the of the video you can watch it. Just it's a shame. I mean it's interesting because a few years ago they had the engineers they had all the plans. I can't remember what university united states is involved with it but They had plans of trying to keep it going and updating it and all that and they had engineers come and take a look at the cable system. it was so bad apparently. The engineers ran fleeing from the area. Franey they were afraid that it was going to go at any moment. I guess i guess. They didn't do maintenance on it for a long time. If those cables actually snapped nearby no yeah no anywhere near the. I thought they decided that smaller. Antennas were Larger portion smaller. Antennas were bigger than a better than a bigger one. Well they're supposedly things that the the larger china bill one you know they they they did. And it's apparently consider larger than than that one and There are certain things that it's able to reach in deep space better than than multiple dishes. That was he said he used it for a while but then they said he figured out that more in tennessee smaller. Antennas piled together better. But so with this much. Empty alaska like the weather center up in alaska. That kind of what they're thinking kind of. There's there's all these arms yeah. There's all these satellite farms throughout. There's some in nevada desert some arizona desert some of these big wide open areas in the middle of nowhere or will the position fifty and tennis and they're able to concentrate fifty smaller. Antennas better than one. Oh shoot out reminds me charlie sheen movie and it's It's not first contact anyways. I do you think they're gonna say bill one because as much empty land masses of as the united states has was done in united states. Well i know that was a foreign country say perico. It's a foreign country country. Okay it just happens to be one that we own protective so if you want to be true. Threats protect it. It's not really a state but it's not. It's an entity protected by america. It's you know. I don't care what you want to call it. Whatever you want this fine go ahead. You just can't argue had point. i just don't know what it is. Wow i think. I'm just gonna ask i'll cheese. I mean so you think if it's important enough that how big of a deal it was. We have so much landmass. United states is not being used as. It's something that we could do here or do you think because a lot of these third third world countries have less laws. It would be easy to do. I'm not sure it's regulatory issue. I think it's a fine financial issue more than anything else. In most of these things run by universities and we know that universities are doing really well right now either so it wouldn't be something that would be done in the next decade. I don't think trying to pay off your loan thin. Yeah really So i i don't know who knows. Yeah i did was sorry one more james. I wanted to step back an interesting conversation. James just keeps dragging things on. Come on that's just sensitive today. Germany just talking strap about y'all upset thought. My response was funnier. So the ninth circuit court actually did something great. Can you believe that. No what those jokers. Well they actually said that a former police officer who had his private collection of a of a few hundred firearms. I got melted down by the los angeles police department. The ninth circuit court granted him the ability to sue them Why did this so did bold on active. I mean sorry now. Detective james edward back in two thousand and four team to a court order to destroy more than three hundred gun from former. Lapd officer collection now. They see it because they were under the impression that he had some guns that re legal the obtained a quarter went and sees the guns held them. The former police officer got all of those charges dropped but they did not return his property. I don't think they now this police officer detective james edwards obtained a quarter or melting down. And so the the former police officer was trying to get them back and found out they all got melted down and now he got to the right to sue the lapd over so this may not. This is probably here near there. Do you know he's Is he a person of color as a white guy. I didn't say in the article because i'll be honest. I'm hoping he's a person of color. Yeah just because. I thought that would be a better court case. Another earning to thing. He got the whole thing overturned. You know all the charges dropped overturned. And we're trying to get property back and come to find out that It all got melted down after four. Point eight million dollars The lawsuit against the city and Officers named on the on the indictment actually really surprised at the ninth circuit court told him that he has the right to sue. Well the good news on the ninth circuit is that we've been able to see a couple of points of more conservative judges and i think that's gonna help lead them to decisions like just. What was the guy's name again. Which i just closed it on was i was. I wanted to write down the court cases. I wanted to look more into it Just use calcium. I don't know probably just aren't tagging. So do you think that's why it's because of the the recent appointees of more conservative absolutely the number both the cpa and geo c. and Calgon organizations are all saying that More likely some decisions regarding second amendment issues may may actually be heard finally Properly so it'll be interesting to see. I don't know who knows. I don't know but maybe i can finally legally be able to buy that fifty. Pm j. wanted except they'd have to come up with fifteen thousand zero. You guys want the bummer part of all of this. Did you hear biden. Said he's going to do now so text. Oh thanks biden's going to go ahead and He claimed on his very first day. Sworn in he's gonna make executive orders banning ar fifteen. Oh i did hear that now. Generally try to talk not talk about politics but this does provide me with an interesting question. I wanted to put out to people out there who listen. You always have an rob. Who's an expert at anything usually firearm related. You always hear talking about a particular political party wanting to confiscate things particular firearms. No legally the the police and other things can confiscate personal property. sell it and use said gains from that for them. That was the case. That was found unconstitutional. So i saw that. So i guess the question is could they legally compensate something confiscate. Something that's actually legally protecting the constitution cars a home all that stuff isn't isn't actually regulated by the constitution isn't say you know right after the fifth minutes say. Oh yeah you're guaranteed a two car. Garage ford mustang. Now you know right so executive orders. Are these funny things that sit out there. That presidents have the ability to just say. Hey you know what. I don't like the color blue anymore. I'm going to write a law saying no cars can be blue. I mean literally. They can do that. And i don't know constitutionally were were were that would stand and it's the same thing with you know biden basically coming out and saying what he said and okay fine. But you're you're talking about something that's protected by the second amendment of the united states constitution slightly different than just making arbitrary laws which they all tend to do. I mean a bomb of wrote tons of them a push wrote tons of them. Some of gotten the pushbacks i know. The one regarding the obamacare got a pretty heavy duty pushback because of the way they did it now. It was kind of a roundabout way to do the pushback versus versus the way. I think they should do it. So you're talking to the bomb curious you because i don't know i'm saying because of the not saying they're all bad. Well i was kind. There are terrible the fact that they're not they're not evergreen. I gosh you know. Maybe we need to have an attorney. Constitutional attorney sometime to talk more in depth about these issues can be you know. Keep us in line here. But i have a little bit of trouble with these executive orders that the presence able to do and i don't care whose office it means. We can't just call them all executive orders. I think we did this. Discussion at at one point. Because they'll bomber actually did less executive orders then bush but what he did do were referred to us presidential memorandum so we actually have to bring that up okay sure so but those are finding no those are but they all have the same power as executive orders. That's the problem. Well so i discussed this with you on the show discussed what you know. Hey it's a small world we keep coming back so so we do kind of have to bring some distinction into that because we're going to have some jackass who pops on here. Who brings up what i just said what. Obama did left executive orders. Then bush wonder if that was our the presidential memorandum. I wonder if that actually. So here's something so another wikipedia. Another wikipedia thing is a presidential men. Random memorandum is type of directive issued by the present united states to manage and govern the actions practices and policies of various departments and agencies found on the under the executive branch in the united states. It has the force of line usually and is usually used to delegate task tasks direct specific government agencies to do something or to start a regulatory regulatory process there are three types of presidential memorandum memoranda presidential determination president presidential findings memorandum and disapproval or. Okay so now. That i retract. What i said about The obamacare so that's what he did to get some of these things he was pushing back. I didn't i that now. The problem is i think it was actually who started using them Quite frequently who wrote an obama carried that in and then we even have trump who was also using them quite frequently. You know who wrote me. I don't know how. Many trump us in comparison but also trump has had years versus obama and bush having a true. And then. here's here's here's the the top of the list. so far bill clinton. Yeah i i don't know how many he is but i don't think it was as many as buster obama. According to wikipedia. Bill clinton wrote three hundred sixty four. George bush lower up two hundred ninety one. I thought i more okay bomber to seventy six so far now. I don't know what the data's we'll have to see the date but trump's just at around two hundred really. Wow four years in two hundred. Yeah cadmus gracious. Yeah so where everybody else had eight years so yeah Trump has they are. They are all made public record the moment they are signed. Or they're things that are kept Well i'm i looked into these. I will read that. It was not as regulated as executive orders. So i don't know how the how they're kept track of so that that's the thing i don't know so i was under the impression they weren't as regulated as president memory is give orders but so no. I don't know enough about him to really go into depth. Do any of you know if they are evergreen until a particular president goes against it or can congress and or the supreme court actually. Because i'm not hurt not informed on. Let's assume we need to constitutional attorney. I mean y- so many in law school at at least talk about this. Because i'm gonna kind saying something different in this assist. So yeah that's the problem is that there's no real definition on these things but they carry about as as much weight from what i understand as much weight and power as president's order. That's the scary thing is that there's so much money that you know it's it's a swamp. Oh that hurt that. I can now that that. Thanks for that james. Just what i wanted to hear smog. Elizabeth people are welcomed the research this because right. Now i've seen something that just makes no sense. The biggest problem with the internet is finding like the truth. It's it's it's amazing. How difficult it is to google things like. How much stuff is source from other sites source mother other sites pedia where we're kapiti assorted off some site that was on geo cities. This is some site that supposedly gather statistics. It doesn't make any sense to me because right now. It's saying that. Franklin roosevelt is really the leader of all of them all. Well really waiting not. He is franklin roosevelt. Yeah supposedly. I was wilson and then calvin coolidge. Roosevelt was the new deal guy. Though i could see that because you have you have four years in office. Private annual average supposedly had an annual average of three hundred and seven executive orders. See that makes sense. Though he was trying love wasn't he trying to get everything going on. Yeah but bill. Clinton had an annual this to make a difference. Bill clinton's annual averages. Forty six so in franklin roosevelt's was three hundred seven. Wow no kidding. That's an incredible difference. Wow i mean so this presidency to see exactly what he was up against to really make a making a decision as to whether or not. I'm okay with that. We know the other thing. I wanna know i wanna know. The supreme court has made decisions on these executive orders in basically say no. Sorry you can read. What your wife. But i mean i don't understand. Where does that fall it. If it's attached to a law than it would have to look. It can't if i remember correctly and this is this was twenty two if this was planned twenty plus years ago that they can he can add like modify laws with the presidential order. Something that can't create new laws but can modify laws. I thought so like you could. If there's a law say banning this you can say okay. You should be able to write into the law. Yuki banning you know. Maybe i'm like. I said right now i feel like i hit a stupid moment. I do not understand. Don't even understand understand it anymore. You're welcome guys. Thank you Now you know where. I've been out for a while with these things like what is going on here. Yeah so that's that's your opinion and transit transit stance. I really. oh boy you sure did stand ta tion traffic rental Executive orders one or one. Are they out. Gotta re i gotta go back to school government head. Yeah one on one to find out what the heck is an executive order. You know now. The thing i gotta say is i think i learned about prison presidential orders and i know i did not learn about presidential men from earned the presidential memorandum's in high school. Yeah i teach it in government all right. So here's the definition of an executive order. It is a directive for the president that has as much of the same power as a federal law. That is my understanding so he could actually make it a lot of make it illegal to wear white after labor. What was my point talked about blue. I mean you know if he wants to okay so including one supreme court decision that okay hold on Okay much power. As a federal law several landmark moments in american history come about directly from the use of executive orders issued from the white house deaths including one supreme court decision that limited a presidential executive order issued by harry truman so president trump's cases executive order on obama carols federal agencies to take all actions insistent with law to minimize the unwarranted economic and regulatory burdens of the affordable. Care act. okay. This is getting too muddled for me. Okay so this will be how homer for another episode way too much reading in this to talk presidential member. I disorder speak thirty across the i could see the white light. Of course there's a giant led solo abraham. Lincoln apparently suspended the rid of habeas corpus during the civil war using an executive order. Really so did he retracted Well i think he died before that happened. I started or did. I guess i should say that's true. He just he. Just you know hostas head had kinda too soon too soon as right home i. We're still not over that. We're not done healing traber. Blinken i mean. If you won't opinion the southern you talk about the southern personal south arise again. that was good So did you hear the nettle things. Peachy keen with howard stern show. I thought he got a five year. Newell oh either but apparently what. I read slightly this morning. Is there's a lot of past employees are saying he's not mr all roses anybody. He had to have an orgasm chair. There's he's a jock lets you know. It is amazing that i hadn't really heard of any lawsuits are payouts. Or whatever may have been from his past behavior on his shows But apparently now there are former employees of howard. Stern howard. Stern shows are saying it's a hostile work environment. Oh it's like ellen degeneres. Dr not surprised that would been surprised. Me either we'll take that that makes sense because ellen degeneres show apparently now is officially taking all the news coming out. how how such an evil Is that old news. I think he's got re upped. Everything's back nurse. Shows are last time. I heard recently a reading. Her shows not doing really well number wise. Well i mean could she do shows now. It's all virtual. So i mean you can't even go to a taping. You still everybody's tanking if you go by that matrix well see the only problem. Is that if you like if you like ellen you're gonna watch ellen promise a her. There's so many people that there have been so much stuff. Said putt badly about her. That her audiences retracting yeah. I'm you know it's it's because when you watch a show you're you're watching for. I think every one of these stars get premadonna moment in their lives where they start believing their own publicity. Be honest with you. Know anderson exactly and I i mean what the heck i mean. She's she was everywhere and every popular and everybody loved her. And i think she believed it i can. I can totally see that. Because especially the richard dean anderson was a joke. But i know two people one sitting in front of me who have run into him over the years. The other one was a guy. I used to work with a big box store. His friend ran into him and basically said the the thing that the old guy said is richard. Dean anderson is his biggest fan. Re richard. Really love themself. I will the poor guy so it was so it was self love. Yeah he literally. Richard really loved himself. He was just you know wonder what he's doing. Now trying to find the pleasure in everyday life. There must be you know. Hopefully he's well. Last time i saw amir looked like the goodyear blimp. According to the pictures. I saw the guy to be. I mean i. I liked his roles. Let's put it this way. The last The what's the thing with him lantis. I forgot the series. Oh stargate stargate. Yeah on stargate but you know you bring up an interesting thing like he was. He was a giant thing in the eighties with macgyver. Just like hulk. Hogan mr t. He was a cultural icon. Who died at just about as fast like careerwise. Yeah but Actually no actually. He had pretty good longevity. I just don't think stargate lasted long in the popular stargate was wrong. I think like seasons as longer than that or while but with him. Now i thought it was a the hold on it's Check it out because you know he. He didn't end up he he. He got booted off than show at the towards the ending to. If on the mistaken. I may be wrong. I'm not a tv aficionado. it's not working I'm having issues Flooded us down. You know it's funny i. It's just the difference between media. I can type insane the fastnet keyboard. Gimme that stupid scream. And i'm like six all over again trying to learn type. It's it's i don't know how anybody types fast on a screen. It just does not work for me. So what's the what's the latest generation. Now 'cause there's lemmings in genetics and some other things right. I don't. I don't even know what they're called. I think aren't james james's son and my son. I think you're in the same generations. Good question the only resembling that of there was some tv show. We watched the other night and they were. There was a younger person making fun of people years and james age here. They had she one of the things she says. You guys probably have facebook pages and we really really digging this person your age. And i just edison beco laughing because i thought it was funny. You guys adele. Officially old made me look. I'd john. Google obviously is working. And according to what i've found is richard dean anderson is the vitamins time between vancouver british columbia angeles in minnesota and from all reports. He's retired good for him. Yeah yeah. I saw that picture of him there so i mean his net worth is thirty million us. I mean that's good enough to retire on his fine. He's doing fine. He's yeah there's one picture of him heavy in. I'm not gonna make fun of fat. Because i had pictures of me. That looked like that too saw. I'm only slightly poking fun. Know i wish you the best i really like. I said other than the fact that i had some run ins with him. Focus was his own. Best friend with this so i was. I've always was big fan. So let's see so stargate so it was from ninety seven to two thousand six nine years. I was only off by says ten years. Which i swear it was on longer than that but i guess not and he didn't end up being at the. I don't think the last two seasons said was that He went to be with his daughter. I forgot the other guys though. Anyway i guess james words is considered a jenny. Gen z. okay the society. And how old is james. He is just turned seven though. That can that does so. There's a little hyphen between two twenty. Twelve and twenty fifteen so he falls into the twenty fifteen section right in there so considered jim z. So i guess that's ninety seven to twenty fifteen jansy birthday years. They say nineteen ninety five to two thousand nineteen currently age four to twenty four was gen z. Yeah and john. And i fall in by that. Were more jedinak because technically technically remained leno's james assists sister actor posted something facebook years ago Which i thought was a perfect description of us would be szanyo because we were close enough to the gen x. but we're millennials. through were. The wife were the last generation who went outside to play and came back. The lights came on except if you lived around here. You're listening to mountain lions blockbuster video you know basically the the last people live in an analog world so the way i see it explains should i prob- goldfish not remembered since i look away from the screen. But it's boomers gen x. gen ys than gen z. Okay yeah and i'm a. I'm the boomer in the group. Y- he was there when the cuban missile crisis happened was he remembers the alamo. I don't remember that. I still remember going under my desk for some kind of funny tested. The toms are going to come. And that was gonna save you. He actually knows what remember. The main was about perjury later. We have refrigerators but those handles locked you so you went into refrigerator before getting out. Yeah they didn't have a safety net. It's funny you mentioned that. There's an episode tasty. There's an episode dragon was dragged. It could be it's either. it's either. Dragnet adam twelve where the sky had one of those old school. Refrigerators in the car and they said you're going to take that apart because kids can and get stuck the moment. Yeah that that was a big. Psa thing then 'cause if you watch tv shows when there's this odd thing that kinda doesn't fit that's why you know it's yeah. No that was a real thing. Unfortunately many children not many. Some children died because of that and finally dawned on people that we don't need to make refrigerated lockable. I i however. I there have been instances of my of my life. I'm thinking if i had a lockable. Refrigerator would definitely save me money. Well but it wasn't like it was a padlock. It was more like your front door where it just closed and it locked. But she couldn't didn't have a knob on the other side to open up so it'd be for you. John you go in your house and you never leave man so we're coming up to a close eye on now we're coming up to a close. Christmas is coming up soon. Restless and i was kinda thinking is listening christmas music. Yes a little bit. I haven't either yet night. Good so johns elise listening. That's good will. Mike my well my wife james. Aren't you giving james and education on christmas. Music is jimmy. Playing christmas line. It's a oh good music out there too. Well i you'd have to get somewhere. I you have to get james to celebrate christmas in called internet. I tunes well. I guess i wanted to is because this year is this twenty twenties. Just been bitch and in every aspect of the word. I wanted to say the c word but considering how you know starts but it's okay but that's okay nice i was gonna say it's it's how australian say. Hello but i know enough women who listen to the show. I might get a lot of dirty and matt emails. We don't want to be Fisher jelly bellies in your fanny pack. This is south african-led he was gonna throw threatened to stab the knitting needle now Is there anything that you remember christmas that you were like grateful for shock for any president present. You're just like that you remember still to me. It was a tv was a magnavox tv. I still remember because. I remember the advertisement because the advertisement was your marshalls too loud. Hit this button. We normalize all audio and all it did was turn everything down. So if you're if you're commercials allowed you if you're commercials are quite couldn't hear the tv the show so your question was. I'm sorry i missed it. There's something christmas that we are fond of. You remember onto memory. can you tell i'm gonna episodes. Gotta get pulled you better pas that okay. Play some christmas music So there is there any christmas christmas gift or memory. Something that that for me. It was like a gift. It's one of the things. I remember this a few other things but i. But it's like that gift i remember. Who isn't that sad. You know. I remember as a as a child being excited about christmas. Almost overly excited about christmas But i think there is still of stage of wonderment. Shouldn't say that. Because i think you guys probably had pretty decent houston christmases or hannukah's whatever it may have been I don't have any one that stands out. Because i've got too many sorry james thinks of the. Here's i got when. I would say you know laker media was. I enjoyed visiting my grandparents. My mom's side of the family. My dad's say we never really went to on christmas very often. But my gra- my mom's grant my mom's parents grandparents there. We would go there every year and chose trees. You give us some money. You know and presents and stuff and going as goal for me visiting them but yeah. That's a good memory. He and my grandpa get cranky. Sometimes but my grandma was always tweet. Nice and my grandpa had his moments of having fun with everything. But it's getting old james volga cranky. I know The other thing for me. That i remember is for a while there. I was buying christmas dinner. I remember every christmas dinner. I've ever purchased Mortimore that was your gift more than any more than but you don't more than gifts What's it part of. It is just growing up in the church and it was that atmosphere of as much as i make fun of baptists is because they're they're wonderful people it's that that atmosphere of dinner of communion of fellowship that you get in there in holidays you may not get regularly. It's the sharing a meal. That's just just is really ba- in big it to me that i remember that that gift of food. Yeah you know. it's the old. It's the old joke and it was probably true of me. You know my dad could have bought me a seven thousand dollar present. I just wanted the box and my son kind of the same way. So it's in the wonder buying your seven thousand dollar box. Yes don't tell. Laura i wanted that gun It's a big gun. It's it's the one thing. I love about having a little kid. Is that sense of joy. That i thoroughly miss. Because i remember loving christmas. I remember being excited. I remember my sister and i All the enough finding killer clowns from outer space on television every christmas and watching it And i miss his children. Children in that was same thing for us. As far as i'm concerned when you guys were children it was. It was all about that. As i think it's kits for children now. I'm not saying that you know adults can enjoy too. But it really makes other james's and so i and there are little traditions. I mean my family had which i look back at now thinking about. Why never figured this out but we had a christmas morning. Tradition of bagels lox bagels and cream cheese. Every christmas morning. Mess with my mom does. Yeah and and But you gotta understand. That was happening before. I knew i was jewish. Raised catholic remember. Oh it was a little strange. I look back at that now. Not the brightest bulb could sorry so if anybody's actually listening to this no matter the year the time or or the month. You're listening to this. I hope you all actually answer that question. Is there a gift. A christmas. Or a memory of christmas Now because i posted on a website of mine. That's no longer around. Like the important part of christmas is also remembering those you don't have and the memories you had with them and that that food and the family and togetherness and i've got a a number of people who i miss gratefully that i wish that i had one more chance to share a cup of coffee with or something so i'm gonna leave you this on this on this note. Is i hope you guys if you can whether by facetime or in person tick a chance to tell that person you haven't seen in a while i love you because it's amazing how much those three words can change anybody's life and from the california pariah the fatman and an old guy as always thank you for listening.

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Shaq's listeners lift him up with messages and voicemails, plus a preview of the 2020 Borderline Bracket and game contestants failing Kincade on The Big Podcast with Shaq

The Big Podcast With Shaq

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Shaq's listeners lift him up with messages and voicemails, plus a preview of the 2020 Borderline Bracket and game contestants failing Kincade on The Big Podcast with Shaq

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one production now available on spotify apple podcasts. podcast one dot com in anywhere else. You get your podcasts. This is an exclusive presentation of podcast one sports Shaquille O'Neal Suchet podcast. This is Sharon cast of Dj Drop Back. It is the big podcast with Shack John. Kincaid beat beat off Brandon Harper. Shaquille O'Neal. My Name is Rob Jenner's I'm the producer of this program and for the first time in the history of this show. I'm sitting in a studio by myself trying to gather some thoughts and approach to how we talk to you guys this week now shack is not with us you probably have seen him back on. TNT's Kinda China starting to get back to his normal schedule but as you know shack cast were big family so we wanted to give Shaquille couple more days to get his head right. He's going to be back with us on Monday the tenth so so Monday night. We're GONNA have a brand new cast for you hopefully full of laughs borderlines. We're GONNA play black crime white crime to kind of get a spirit back and I think it's going to be a great show now this week. I wanted to bring you something to try and make you smile. Usually we bring you a show. That's about shack while this week. Everybody in our family including all of you banded together to produce a show Oh that was four shack big man needs a smile he needs a little uplifting. So that's what we're going to do this week. I'm going to start with a little bit of a different spin on deer shack. We asked you guys to send in some messages videos. Voice recordings anything you can put together the Tel Shack Hayfield where your head's at. I have assembled of no less than thousands of emails tweets facebook messages. You name it and I'm going to send those all along the shack kind of one big thread. Of course. We're still reeling one from Kobe. If you haven't heard the tribute episode you can go back and listen to what was released on Monday. The twenty seventh. And you guys. The outpouring of support has been nothing short of amazing so like shack needs to hear from you guys. Someone let you guys speak to the big man for a minute. We're GONNA start with our old friend. Calvin and his son in Cameron Kushtia. Kobe and I hope you feel better too. I Love Love Him and you notice. He calls him uncle shack in there. That's how our kids know shack uncle shack. We got this as well from Daniel Smith Shack. I've been a huge fan of yours for as long as I can remember and not just a fan of yours on the court but a fan of yours off the court as well I just I wanNA say big fella. I know that you've been hard on yourself about things. You wish you had said wish you had done a lot of Woulda Coulda shoulda stuff and I just want to encourage you and say that I feel like you more than almost anybody I know are somebody who loves on people so well you go out of your way to make people feel special wherever you go. You could be in a random best. Buy I or random hospital and you always doing things that some people would never think to do. So keep your head up just want to hear that brother. Hope you're doing well hanging there big man and this one from an old old friend of the show Caleb who was on match game last week him and his wife expecting their first child congratulations. He brought this message and this classic clip of Shaq and Kobe as part. The guys just wanted to say thank you every Monday. You guys get together and released this. PODCAST I know takes a lot of work Than just four guys that we hear her podcast one. Thank you guys. This is the best podcasts out there and just as little as little kids growing up so many good memories come with you know the guy playing basketball against each other now. I'm Jay here. Kobe your shack on Akeem. We play these stupid fantasy games on a good memories and we thank you for that. Probably my favorite memory or my favorite story. You guys it has to be this even Arco Arena will be when we got there. Were mooning us. So I'll tell the game Some of the windows. We wound up. They got wrote. That was my favorite favorite moment hilarious. Thank you Caleb and Shane and Lucas Brown. have this for Shaquille shocking. Can the BIG PODCAST Creek. Just one till ego as we thinking of you especially Philip you might. It's China Lucas from Brisbane in Australia. He just wanted to positive awesome. Everybody's wishes shack you're GONNA Learn Harvey Chicken alert might save that and you said again all right big. Now we've got a few few more for you Raphael Gomez go ahead. Thank you so much for all the smiles and last every Monday Thank you so much. ACCO we're praying few down down here in San Antonio we love you and thank you so much sir. We love you and we'll do this one from narrow goes out to you shack on using your sister to cancer sir also lost one of my sister to cancer and also Kobe Bryant. You're one of the greatest human beings that I know the celebrity. You're all around person. Stay strong strong. I'm a big Jordan Fan and always said that you and Cobi will take Jordan. Pippen got a couple more. Lift a big man up trying to give them some positive vibes. This one comes comes in from Justin. What's up Shack Jon? Robin P dog. You guys are hilarious. Gets me through work every week. I just wanted to say keep keep your head up shack. You and Kobe. Legends grew up born and raised in San Antonio. Was a big diehard spurs fan. You guys killed my team all those years back in the two thousands late nineties those were great classic battles but had the utmost respect for for you and Kobe and what you guys did on the court and what. Oh you guys brought to the game just wanted to say keep doing what y'all doing and thanks for making us laugh and giving us great material every week love I love. y'All take care and we got this nice one for Mike just wanted to take a minute and let you know how much girlfriend Nubia and I love you. Oh and how would you mean to us and the entire world we believe in you since day. One and Yo- provided us with so many any laughs all these years. You help us through good times and you've helped us through hard times and you truly are a pillar of inspiration inspiration to the entire world. We Love Rob and John Emburey dog all the same sending you lots of hugs. He's from Chicago Man. Be Strong love you guys and well rounded out with a member of our family. Our good friend has been Willa since day. One imagine hopefully. Hopefully a lot of these people here have been our man borderline detective. A Neil wants to just send us love the big man. Hey this is borderline. Detective Neal so just wanted to send my love to you and your family. I know these past few months have very very difficult for you but I know that you're very strong. Individual not only only physically but mentally and emotionally. I just WanNa say thank you so much to you for letting me be a part of the family you know Shaq cast is not only a podcast. It's a family. And I know that we all are thinking of you and want to send our love positively to you so big diesel. Hope you take care of Yourself L. and I can't wait to see you soon so Just the chance for you guys to kind of send some kind words and thoughts on the shack. If you have any more you WanNa send on the big podcast with Shack at g mail dot com is our email. Send them in again. Like I said I'm putting this all together and forwarding it to the big man but I'm not going to bring your show. That's all reflective and heartfelt in look. Look we're trying to get back to normal right. We're trying to laugh well. Guess what's right around the corner. The borderline bracket twenty twenty. So here's what we're going to do now. Shack needs needs a smile. We're going to bring you a recap of some of the top seeds that are going to be heading into the bracket this year. Yes the bracket believe it or not is already on. Its Way to being finished. Here is a preview of some of the top seeds from the twenty twenty borderline bracket. Enjoy This is a classic when the news station gets pranked. Okay which is our favorite. I loved I sent you this one. You did so. Let's let's go to the birthday list. Shot check wish a very happy birthday to this young woman birthdays and anniversaries. In the meantime happy eightieth birthday. T- enormous tits. I hope you have a wonderful norma stints e norma sits on the board board and she reads it. Let's hear it again all right. Let's take a look at birthdays and anniversaries. In the meantime happy eightieth birthday to e enormous tits. Happy Birthday to you enor- enormously. No for our camera. Not No but the guy who's on camera with her turns his head when he hears her say e even that is just awesome. Chang Wong Yeah now we to love me and Bang Out Holy Phuc Given it away but bang being al come on. How did you fall for that? First thing reminded me of you. Happy Birthday Miss Norma. We got the audio thanks to be dog for tracking this one down of Charles Barkley after you just live him up in that water gun fight on TNT. The other night and I went. Oh Gangsta Mr by the way. Yeah you you're awesome shack. I WanNa play paintball sometime with you with shack. Yeah like Shanti. Because I'll tell you this shack Jack would be gangster would and awesome gold. Also say well after he got chuck in the face a little bit later we got. We got this one. I don't know you know you have to pull the last night I would you pull the trigger. I thought I was getting him to. WHOA WHOA? Whoa what's already says? I'm not sure the proper spot is they were good. I'll say it again. Say it again. A shadow because because you guys are just fools his fun. I'm telling you this you guys. That's why that's why that show if anyone else. I understand why that show wins. EMMYS or it's because people get moments like that and it's not well let's break down the circuit you guys last night. We're so oh damn funny. Oh my God. If you're watching this you don't have any life. You don't have a life watching these games. Christina goes on your own own cross going they're gonNA they're gonNA get called into the office tomorrow. She's she is he tells us. Is Charles telling them turn the channel. They'RE GONNA get in trouble for this. I said honey this is the show John crapping on. Do not that. I said that's why they win. The Emmy she my wife's it's literally going wait a minute. They're telling them to turn the channel that this is crap. Yeah they do and America's watching they're going to win an emmy for it. Oh my gosh. Aw that is hilarious. Oh it's so funny. That is funny all right and then finally thanks to Michael on twitter for this one is from a warriors kings game earlier. This season as Steph. Curry does that step back and pull up jumper catches the color commentator off guard here grand. Brings it out raise up. That's exactly exactly what that raise up here. That's what that feels like. It's slipping the whole. It was this grand brings out raise up rats attack. Raise up with the noise. That's what that feels like. The guy like that okay. It's tough sledding. Goal with a guy like that. That's even better the house. It was like my gosh. We appreciate Sonny. Curtis g mail for sending our favorite skipping Shannon are just our favorites. This is coli mcquay after the Eastern Conference finals and they chose a weird way to start this topic. I don't know how impressive it was Hawaii. No L. me this was is tell me lay it on thick long. Wait a minute now. If you just if you just put in there the noises they're making and then the and then the thing that the lay it on thick off the time off similar row. That's Bob's in Dick's all over. I know Oh oh oh ooh lay it on all right one one more quick one. This is a little out of context but I love it. It's undisputed detective Matthew with skipping Shannon they're negotiating how they're going to go out of conversation and it just sounds so oh borderline slow go to the short. Oh my gosh. What should we do it in reverse stop at skip? Not But oh early do it in reverse people sent this one in including dwayne on facebook. Catch it into Wayne Matt Hat and a number of others. It was done if you heard this Chicago. Bears head coach Matt Navy. Got To sing. Take me out to the ball game at Wrigley Field which is in a very long-standing Trish Wrigley since since skip Harry Carey Carey Carey Carey. And then everyone comes up they sing. Take me out to the ball game. Well here's bears head coach. Matt Nagy He may have missed a word here I'll AH which by the way in Chicago. You can find on that gun talk. Oh my gosh well I understand. He really does appreciate a good tight end crash. I can understand if you missed the word that that was a hundred percent intention. Was it not I think he said Penis purposely. Buy Me me some penis Ukraine peanuts and cracker. Jacks you want me some Crag Gregson what's in store I hate. I Hate Crasher Jack. I never ate them. Oh my God my my wife my wife who is also record tax and she got it at the she got it it at the braids game and hated it. She said there's no They didn't have any peanut Senate. She was looking for the peanuts. See them to to the dumbest prize. I used to always want. Yeah and it was always too little cartoon Bull Ring Stupid This came to us us from era. This man's name is Eric May and according to doctors he's the world's worst starter. Here you go to step veteran and so I was four has had a positive that Eh negative see now. Everybody in the room is laughing quietly into their shirts. You guys are all aces' asses 'cause I used to be a starter so that yeah the that connecting editor. So you know this is totally wrong with me and close the deal. The road Over I'm a criminal under that Mohammed. I heard the invested think. Oh Man oh you're going through you laugh at over two or more around doc gates. It hurts my chest hurts hurts burning in my chest right now from rob just keep it going for like two minutes all right there you go. Some of our top seated finishers heading into the borderline bracket twenty twenty on the big podcast with shack. It is Jenner's here here with you blind solo this week as we're waiting for the big man to return which he will do on Monday the tenth we all the shiny new funny show for you. Then I want to remind I knew that if you stick around after today's episode. You're going to get a clip of the Dan. Patrick show one of our favorite people on the planet. We Love Dan. We love the Danettes some of the best interviews in the business. Snus some of the biggest guests. You're ever GonNa find of course you can get Dan's show through podcast one. So if you don't have the chance to listen to live you can always go back and get Dan's podcast version through podcast. One DOT com. Wherever you find your podcasts and stick around at the end of the show? We're going to bring you a clip from the Dan Patrick Show and again Dan and the Danettes all good friends. Some some of our favorite people on the planet. And you know what again here with us even though football season's officially come to a close. That doesn't mean that there isn't a lot going on with our friends at bed online. We've got got a basketball coming up hockey. UFC I mean really the NBA playoffs are going to sneak up on us here soon if you go to bed online and you use the Promo Code podcast odd cast one you spell it out podcast one you get a fifty percent sign up bonus you can kind of get in on the action. Look we got some good stuff philly Miami coming up in the NBA. San Antonio at the Lakers Miami at the clippers should be a pretty decent game looking forward to Houston at the Lakers. So there's a lot of action out there you can kind of get in on of course. UFC Two forty seven coming up this weekend and hey college basketball starting to matter again is why we were preview in the playoffs are borderline that bracket for March madness is going to sneak up on us to go to bed online line. Use that Promo Code podcast one and get your fifty percent sign up bonus he throwing one hundred bucks. They're gonNA throw extra fifty if you use the Promo Code. podcast one one and you spell it out. Bet online are online sportsbook experts. All right wanted to give you a couple things here at the end to really make you laugh as you know we end and each show with a game shack is super competitive. As was our man Kobe Bryant but John is the one who continually has problems with teammates. In fact it's become a recurring theme on the show that Kincaid. We'll get screwed by a caller every chance he gets so I wanted to revisit some of our all time I'm favourite kincaid. Get screwed by his partner moments on this show and they are absolutely epic. We're going to start with Donald from episode seventy two during the SHACK CASTS ASP pyramid. This guy wasn't Alzheimer. Rockies my contestant go ahead and say hello to Donald Donald How are you donald do a good how you doing Johnny Donald where you from. Where are you from? Donald is that that's Donald Duck Donald Duck. I thought he was having a seizure. Donna where you from Man. Yeah look quite Atlanta questions are going to get done a good job from semester. Live in Hinesville. I used to live in Hinesville. Awesome are exactly was alright so all right here we go. Pyramid is going to start with Kincaid. kincaid is going to have to get you to guess items items off of his list and then we'll turn it around and you have to get him to guess items off a your list so this topic is called Kincaid bust and it's things that are associated with with Las Vegas things that are associated with Las Vegas thirty seconds and go. It's a card game and it's twenty one. Blackjack Jack. It's a card game with five cards. Go on You put your money. You put her. Yeah Okay yes you put your money in it and you pull the lever by gag no slot. Okay there's plenty NIA places. Where do you go out to eat again? Where do you go out to eat three my gosh so again? Oh Man all right all right what do you put your money to blackjack. Oh my Gosh Hi. I'm getting very good all right here. We got less time less time. Guy Did his diet he did. It'd have a seizure. What are we go all right? Donald do you have your list. I do okay so this one is going to be called mind in your own business home. Things that are associated with Phil sounds like I'm holdings associated Adelphia are here we go all right. Donald Thrice since and go eagles football. Okay hold on Don in twelve. We got three six nine sat. Sorry about that. He's got it now he's got it now. You're right here we go rob come on. Let's try it again. Let's try to get. Let's get that one though. High Jenner's I'm telling you another Jacob Kid Jacobs the best. Are you ready. Let's try it again. Faced with Reading Stig in the guy. You ready don't say even name here. We go John here. We go walk doc and go football the eagles the whole gosh medal. uh-huh okay I appreciate your. I appreciate you dry. Donald Play Music Blade finds that was sabotaged. The John John's man all I know is can i. Now listen I answer the first two tweets the put out dwells in the first two people that I guess I'm on into play. The game are the people that I picked. There was no meaning process. Obviously no seriously I two people. Oh my in your blue chips I would all right. So in an effort of redemption we played buzzer. Her beat her. In episode eighty-five John was partnered with a guy named gnaws another classic failure. All right so let's bring John's listener. John Say hi Tanaz. Nah It's what's up my man now. We're killing them aren't we. Playing buzzer beater so John's got a list of topics here in front any of it. He's got to try to get you to guests in sixty seconds. He can't say the name of them so he's going to have to give you clues to them so since this shock the monkey nonsense will not seem to stop on. This show will not go away. John's category is songs about animals. Okay songs about animals the with sixty seconds on the clock and you guys will. We'll see how many you can get you guys ready ready all right here. We go sixty seconds on the clock. Whenever you're ready John Go Ted nugent? It's a little furry thing in your house that comes into your lap and you pet it. Now she's been through the desert on a I've been through. I WanNa Campbell in one of the rocky movies. It's the blank of the blank. It's the raw my gosh okay. They have a daughter all my gosh seriously you've been. The kids. Were rocket in bopping to the Elton. John Song they arrived. Bob Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. It's not an alligator core book. I want to hear my song twice. Well black tobacco. My job can score two thousand seventeen. The Astra game started over again Score got the donut he got the crispy cream seriously. Ridiculous deeper neuro head tell shook up the world America Guru in the same contest. Play the game in Philadelphia is the same one and this contestant from episode. One eighty-three our man. Dave gave one of the most iconic and classic answers in the history of games on this show. You'll know it when you hear it. John and Charleston Austin was a contestant on and you just wondering what short bus route fem. Mike Hey I want you to let them know that when he comes onto his I would like to now welcome in. I don't go down that road man not going down that road. Hey Hey Dave. Hey Hey David Back Jack and Rob and John. That'd be ready to win Dave. Hey mom talking to talking to stack mom. I'm with my mom. Would the hospital. Let me talk to her. He moved it up to talk to you. Mobile Dave Dave Christmas really Dave. Come on talk to your mom Dave my mom. She's hey mom wants to talk the comedy. Where do you find my house? Hello mom this is GonNa save here in the hospital. Get well so and we love you. You and we're praying for you. Okay mom thank you. I think she's like yes. How old are you? I'm thirty one thirty two. I'm GONNA play a contestants man my mom. I put you on speaker phone on Speaker Right. You'RE GONNA win. You'RE GONNA possible. Oh Oh no no no I'm not GonNa Look Carson Wentz before we get this so dave where are you from Texas Tech Okay. What Part Odessa? Okay ooh yeah sure football to all right. Let's get the Game Pat all right all right so here we go. John has a category. He's got seven things from the category. You get thirty seconds of guests as many as you can. Okay you gotTa then we'll turn it around and you can do your category right so this category called. Okay John we get it since. Kincaid likes to show off his knowledge. Things is that you show off okay they show off Jonky Katie. You got thirty seconds go go. This is where you live and has a roof on how It's not your wife but it's your spouse no on the side that bitch what are you. What did you try to the hospital? What are you wearing right now? Shirts and pants and everything. What do they call those? Yeah what about a ring or necklace. What do they call blame more? Really what about how you look style of. God I swear to God I swear I saw the play with me. We need we go okay. We need six now. It'd be damned good close. Wait a minute you set that up because you went not your wife but your what exchange piece you definitely couldn't say opposite friend. Okay no you. You can't say use that would have been but you could either. I'm ready to win now. We're getting sick at least time doing. I can't believe it Dave. Do you have your category ready Dave. I'm out yeah. Yeah I'm getting my category ready because of all our matches I'm legally blind so give me a second ready ready ready at things that we're competing you say fake. Yeah okay. So give the category. So it's Wikipedia said so since John on had fake wikipedia entry things that are fake things that already put thirty seconds. Hold on Dave and when you're ready go got on your hair you put them in your mouth you know girl girl girl pay to get them done. ABC's people people get a manicure manicures they put clothes on them in the store you quote. ABC Fake News time interesting teeth on the same thing. Yeah yeah got thanks all right. Thanks Dave thank you hung up on my God. What is that? What are the odds of that literally? I'm not even kidding. I've read us a great to play. Yes you're good yes. I'm totally happy to do it excited to do it. What the hell and he's blind? He's diker now laughing at it but what I'm saying is is that I emailed it probably I would imagine Dave has has reading. An email is not as easy for Dave because he probably asked to have some device to do it with and everything like that. Besides yeah. There's the opening next week shows. The shack wins again. God just try to make you guys laugh a little bit here. We get back to normal. And that's we're going to call it a week here. Thank you guys so much again for all your love and support these last couple of weeks. Lord knows we've needed it like I said at the beginning of the show shack back with us on Monday. You can get this show and all of the shows now from podcast one on spotify so another way to get your hands on the big podcast shock you can now listen through specified. Maybe already are. We appreciate you we. We are back with the big man on Monday. And we'll talk to you then. Owner this the top to bottom everybody got the west coast in. This is not the oppose the project daddy just like basically Katie station. It's race John lassie gate. JOPPA stop stop it for days. I prayed Graham bottom line when you call them bone surreal topped by anybody. Okay okay so that's it. Great Ball of the guys on twitter at Shack at John. Kincaid at Rob Jenner's or get more clips and nonsense on instagram and facebook book at the big podcast with shack. This has been an exclusive presentation of podcast one sports with new episodes every week at podcast. 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We spend a day with With Patrick Handy and you know one of the things like I told Patrick trigge. I see the comparison in in some respects. I said but the difference is in the same thing with Baker Mayfield. I've heard the comparisons percents as well The difference is They're more polished. And what I mean by that. is they food for more yards arch in college. And we're in you know much bigger games and settings In in coming from college to pro is is not really a step up as far as an offensive Playbook you know where I came out of college. I started all four years up to fifty two touchdowns and all all all four years combined guys. Though that in the season you know easily in reading defenses and You know just how you change protections and all that stuff. I didn't really get that until my tenth year in the N._F._l. And of course the game changed evolved to that where nowadays. It's it's a passing friendly league.

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Full Episode: Friday, April 10, 2020

Perspective

37:43 min | 1 year ago

Full Episode: Friday, April 10, 2020

"From ABC News this is perspective a closer look at the week's top stories and some of the stories. You may have missed. I'm Sherry Preston. Coming up millions of Americans out of work as the corona virus death toll climbs but health experts say were beginning to see a flattening of the curve. That's blue news now. I can relax. You can't relax. Why minority communities are being hit particularly hard by cove nineteen? This shows. The lack of the equity this exposes the structural deficits that we've are known about and how family members are caring for those with special needs during the pandemic. We are trying to get therapies but we just cannot replicate what they can do at squad all ahead on perspective keeping the curve flat. It's something we've heard over. And over since the beginning of the pandemic and something we saw happening in some parts of the country including New York City or the milestone reached. This week was a Gremlin. You look at the numbers on the death toll it has been going steadily up and it reached a new height places like New Orleans. Washington DC Baltimore and Detroit are all experiencing spikes in cases and are working hard to flatten that curve. Abc Senior Investigative Reporter. Aaron Katersky is leading our corona virus coverage here as host of the podcast covert. Nineteen what you need to know. He's been reporting on the numbers all week across the US. Last time we talked with a couple of weeks ago and we were talking about New York. So let's begin there and talk about the fight against this. This has been a really really rough week but are we starting to turn a corner. It sure looks like that Sherry. The numbers have been good. And although the governor has said they're not conclusive he's certainly hopeful that the curve is beginning to flatten and he is credited everybody staying home and all the social distancing and work from home policies. That have been in place here for a number of weeks now and it does make the days all kind of blend together in a sort of groundhog day fashion but it does appear to be making a difference and now the experts say we can't let up because as soon as we do the fear is that the curve would go straight up again but even if it is flattening it is flattening at it incredibly high rate in the hospital system is still stressed and stretched thin and the rate of death has just been incredible. You've been talking to doctors here in New York. What are they saying? Critical patients and people that are coming into the hospital in dire straits. In the heartbreaking part Sherry is that sometimes they'll come into the hospital they will be instantly ripped away from their families because visitors are not allowed and in some cases that separation is permanent and it has taken a real toll on families. The isolation inside the hospital for patients can be terrifying and for families. The guilt can be overwhelming. And it's been left to nurses and doctors and hospital chaplains to be at the bedside of these patients and the problem is a nurse. Can't be with any individual patient for very long there. Just isn't the time another state that you've been reporting on is Michigan and their situation there. You've got thousands of healthcare workers who have been diagnosed with corona virus or have come down with symptoms that are that they believe is is covert nineteen. What's the situation there especially around the Detroit area? Detroit has become a hotspot in the country and it believed that it happened because of the autoworkers. it was in auto plants early and factories early. They finally closed down. But but not before a number of people had been exposed and it ballooned from there and it's moved around the state not only in Detroit but there are new concerns now about flint a community that just keeps taking it on the chin. In every kind of way I was talking to The the director of infectious diseases for for the Beaumont health system and he says his main concern now is for staff they had at last check about fifteen hundred healthcare workers who were showing symptoms and there just aren't enough tests to confirm all of them field. Hospital is opening up in Detroit and more are coming in fact Sherry some of the field hospitals that opened early in in places like Washington state are now closing down packing up operations and moving to areas that are becoming more critical but the one problem. Is that some of these? Places are becoming hotspots so quickly. The Army Corps of Engineers says they're running out of time to actually build new field hospitals. Aaron you and your family have been taking part every night in opening up windows going out on balconies in New York City and banging pots and pans and cheering for the healthcare workers. How do you feel when you do that? And do you think that the the doctors and nurses know what's going on there is so much `isolation in this time that for just a few minutes every night at seven PM Eastern to be connected neighbors that we can see out of windows across. The street is a nice bit of connectedness. New York always likes to feet. It's heroes of be the firefighters and policemen after nine eleven the US women's soccer team after the World Cup and now doctors and nurses fighting an unseen virus so this moment of sustained ovation where people lean out of windows step onto balconies stop at street corners and cheer together is one that. I think is quintessential New York. But it's also been repeated around the world great Aaron. Thank you so much for reporting from your apartment. We appreciate it. We know it's crowded there. We know you've been Distanced for a while but keep it up. Okay stay well. Sherri thanks in California. They implemented stay at home. Orders bid four New York and before the virus really took off cases. There have been lower and early. Social distancing could be one reason why there might be other reasons to including something called herd immunity. We talked about that and about what? California is doing differently than other. Parts of the country with Christina Mendonca Co host of the Morning News at our affiliate K. F. B. K. in Sacramento. It seems like what's been happening in. California is what is supposed to be happening. You guys are doing it right. Does it seem that way to you? Well we are flattening the curve for sure we were the earliest state in the country to institute the stay at home orders. And the distancing orders and it has enabled us to flatten the curve. But we're going to have an infection rate. That rolls out a bit longer. At least according to Gavin. Newsom the governor. He says he expects our peak infection rate to hit about mid May so the state is prepping about fifty thousand additional hospital beds putting them up in kind of triage hospital. Centers I think the old Arco Arena were the Sacramento Kings used. To play is going to be at three hundred fifty bed hospital so they are preparing to go a little bit longer with the infection rate again. With the P kidding about mid-may so what about staying inside. I mean that's one of the things that you guys implemented early on. Keep it inside our people to do that for another month. Month and a half. Well we've have had a significant at least in northern California amount of rain and kind of cool weather th relative of course compared to the rest of the country which gets hard winners but people have been heading outside and county by county. They've been kind of cracking down. On some of the state parks those have been closed. counties or are even closing their local parks and playgrounds and that sort of thing and kind of monitoring those to make sure people aren't congregating but people are getting outside. I mean the bike. Trails are pretty busy every weekend. And even during the week as well as the neighborhood trail so people are getting outside. They are trying to keep their social distance and in some areas like L. A. They're now requiring face coverings for everyone. Who's out about so? Tell me more about the people in California. I mean you're in the capital city there. How ARE PEOPLE HOLDING UP? The numbers are lower than they are in the east coast. But how are people doing it? The social distancing helps I mean California just by nature is a state where more people are alone in their cars. Mass transit isn't a big thing here like it is on the East Coast so people. Are you know socially distanced just as a natural way of living a little bit more than perhaps on the East Coast? It's not so condensed we did get some new numbers from the governor. That I thought were interesting. He released who is getting the virus. this was the state's healthcare office and it looks like about fifty percent of those coming down with the virus in. California are either African American Asian. Latino of the governor says those numbers maybe not a reflection of the virus targeting populations but just the state's demographic We also found out about ten percent of those getting the virus or frontline healthcare workers. So we're starting to see the virus show up more as people had into the hospital so a smaller role out perhaps of infection rate. But it's going to go longer for us. What about the homeless population in California? We are looking for Places to put the homeless population so that they can self quarantine a mass transit down in southern California. It's been recommended that be shut down because most of the people writing now or homeless folks trying to get out of the elements or or find a place to sleep for a little while. Seven Thousand Hotel rooms is what we were supposed to have roll out for homeless populations as well as some fema trailers that have been moved in to fairgrounds within areas of the state to be honest. We really haven't seen them being able to get a lot of homes people off the street for the most part. We still have a lot of homeless population out. There mixing one other interesting study. I wanted to bring up Stanford is running a study about thirty. Five hundred people have collected blood samples. And they're looking for antibodies. This is happening in the bay area and the hypothesis is that the virus was here in California as early as last fall we do have the highest population of Chinese nationals. That both visit our state and have immigrated to our state and they're if maybe herd immunity is partially why. We're seeing California's number so low. That would mean that the virus was perhaps circulating and so many people caught it last. May or at least were exposed to at last. May that their bodies were able to build up these. Antibodies this immunity to the virus. And we're expecting that. Study those numbers to be released within about two or three weeks out of Stanford. Really interesting stuff. Thank you so much. Stay safe stay healthy and stay inside if you can. Okay you do the same Sherri. Thank you coming up. Essential workers affected by the corona virus. And why race is playing a role and WHO's infected on perspective. After this on Thursday we found out another six and a half million Americans at filed for first time unemployment benefits this past week that means in the past three weeks. Nearly seventeen million people have found themselves laid off or furloughed and the numbers. Don't take into account those who couldn't get through to state unemployment offices gig workers contract workers and they also don't include those whose companies have reduced their hours or pay but not enough for them to file for unemployment. Abc's chief business correspondent. Rebecca Jarvis unemployment insurance system for many Americans as they've been applying has been shutting down. Hasn't been working for a lot of people. The money is there. And so you have to do that. You have to apply for it. In order to get it. The money is there when we talk about small businesses those thirty million small businesses which employ about forty seven percent of the US workforce. They in particular are struggling right now because a GP. Morgan just came out with this research. They have about fifteen days worth of cash on hand that means after two weeks. They're out open. Nineteen has hit minority communities especially hard in terms of jobs and in terms of their health as the country begins testing. More people were finding help. There is a racial disparity in Cova nineteen positive cases and deaths caused by complications. Steve Olson Saami has more on the reasons why from the moment to corona virus outbreak began. Health officials have preached that Cope in nineteen doesn't discriminate that it's an equal opportunity killer but new reports strongly suggest that race still matters look at Louisiana of the more than five hundred people whose final breaths were stolen by this disease. The state says that more than two thirds of them were black in Chicago. The numbers fall the same. Most of the people who've gotten sick or died people of Color in Milwaukee County Wisconsin. We're black Americans are just twenty six percent of the population. They're more than seventy percent of the deaths from the corona virus. The reports are startling and North Carolina Connecticut and Michigan to the end. Acp held a virtual news conference sounding the alarm. These are shocking. Numbers put an accelerate lack of corona virus in the midst of African American art disparately impacted the shows the lack of inequity. This exposes the structural deficits that we are known about. There are few places in America that are keeping close track of how Kobe nineteen is impacting communities of color and there are some familiar explanations for what's happening higher rates of diabetes high blood pressure and other conditions that make it more difficult for someone to fight off the new disease. There's something else that's happening in the middle of what's becoming a nationwide economic pause. We're seeing reports of black and Latino service providers who are taking calculated risks to keep working because the social distancing isn't paying their bills among American families of color there's also a skepticism of public health authorities dates back to the experiments that began in the nineteen thirties into ski Alabama. Where black men who thought they were being treated for syphilis warrant rebel people's as a teacher in Brooklyn who says he doesn't trust the government with his health and it I thought code nineteen when it comes to the American government and the media I never really trust what's being said or what's being projected and I always feel like there is capitalist stick intentions behind everything so when I started to see that the economy was being affected in seemingly a negative way. That's when I started to realize that. Okay maybe there is. Actually something going on this doctrine. An urgent care in New York City says that when people of Color do get sick the medical facilities in black and Brown neighborhoods are often unable to provide the type of care of these patients. Need so we know that in Black Brown communities that typically these I'm hospitals that are called minority serving hospitals and different studies that have shown this tend to offer poor quality care and we also know that they may not have the resources to deal with very sick Kobe. Nineteen patients and then just even thinking about the vulnerability of these communities before this pandemic even happened. It's harder for these families to weather. The ECONOMIC STORM OF COVERT NINETEEN EXPERTS. Underlined that black and Latino workers are over represented in the restaurant and hotel industries for example which are nearly entirely shutdown policy experts. Say that the racial wealth gap in this country explains both why people of Color are more likely to get sick and why they have more to fear from the shutdowns so what to do about this. It turns out that some of the suggestions help everyone putting a hold on fictions for example in Atlanta. The mayor put out this notice announcing available rent reductions at all public housing and she's prepared to keep those reductions going into June but health officials. Say That addressing. The problem requires I seeing it and there are calls for the federal government to start counting the impacts to people of Color. Steve talked about the social dynamics and more as well as his personal experience with. Abc's Brad Mielke our daily podcast start here. Here's part of that conversation. Shutting down small businesses these communities. I mean that can be life and death in a way as well. Oh yeah a lot of these people who are still working are more exposed to this. Who had issues before they're only being magnified? You know some examples that I know of with certain families. They don't have a home that they can refinance get money from. They don't have relatives. Who can help them out? And I'm going to speak personally I. I am a child of the big recession in the eighties. I remember it. Vividly vividly remember. Both of my parents were out of work. We were on public assistance I remember coming home and the Lights. Not Being on and doing homework with my flashlight. Night you you can't see it right now but I'm sitting at my desk in my office and to This Day. I keep a flashlight on my desk. At arm's reach at all times because of that. That's how significant that economic impact then was for me now when the lights go out. I get nervous. There is a nation of children who are dealing with this right now and most of them are black and Brown. Data shows the social distancing works. Please pay attention stay home. Save lives Lori lightfoot Mayor Chicago. She's a good example. She put out a PSA. Debbie get here route. Stun is not essential essentially telling people. Now's not the time to get your hair done. Now's not the time to get your nails. Did it's cold. Nobody's GonNa see your toes. Even she posted a photo online of her and her hairdresser after her hairdresser did her hair like in person. Yes and the mayor explain that she's in the public eye and has to take care of these things. But you know what the mayor didn't say which was also probably part of what was going on. Is that you know her hairdressers and important person to her in the same way that my barbers important person to me. There's something different in the black community about that relationship. That's interestingly it's not just a vanity thing no no the masks. There's a great example. It's these two men so we were in Walmart and what's ever and we'll river Illinois this officer writer behind us just just bought in a store you just. They were at a Walmart to black men. Young black man wearing face masks were sort of the hospital surgical masks. There's a presidential order. There's a state order and they were kicked out of that Walmart by a police officer after customers complained because people were afraid. Were being asked to lead for me safe and the police chief. He issued a statement siding with the two young men saying essentially that is officer was wrong. Corona viruses real. This police also just put us off of Warren Mass. Trying to stay safe and I will share that four black men in this country the feeling is. Do I wear a face mask to stay safe or do I not wear a face mask to stay safe? I personally don't feel comfortable wearing face masks as a black man because it hides my smile and that's one tool that I have long used to disarm people who might fear me. It's such a good point. I feel like how we're talking as if we're all going through this together and kind of this great big American experiment but shared and yet you do have to remember that people from community to can be going from very different experiences as well. Thank you Steve. You're welcome in a matter of just a few days British prime minister. Boris Johnson went from experiencing slight symptoms of the corona virus testing positive to being placed in intensive care for treatment raised alarm bells around the world during an already tense time and personally for Johnson himself. His fiancee carries Simmons had been experiencing corona virus symptoms of her own. And she's pregnant. She's not alone. Millions of women around the world are pregnant may be experiencing a lot of anxiety related to staying healthy and possibly giving birth alone hospital. Learn more about that. We spoke with Dr Brennan. She's a maternal fetal medicine specialist and associate professor at Duke University out. Boris Johnson of course is a world leader but what he and his girlfriend are going through is not all that different from couples all over. I mean you can't imagine anything scarier other than you or a family member being infected with corona virus than being pregnant at this time. What are you telling expectant MOMS? Who At this time? It's supposed to be one of those joyous times their life. It's it's really scary cautious reassurance. That's our and pregnancy. We have not seen that. Women tend to do worse than other people in the population who get the virus that said that's based mostly on data from China and it's very limited data so we're very cautiously watching pregnant population here in the US. We know that covert is bad for anyone. Obviously in even young healthy people can get very very ill from this and we have seen pregnant. Women get quite ill but in terms of on a population level. We haven't seen as significant of ownership among pregnant women as we have in past outbreaks for example in each one Enron back in two thousand nine whether or not about a month of the disease spreading. It became very clear that women did much worse than the general population. And we're now at over a million cove infections across the globe. We haven't seen that level of concern as of yet. We do worry about the fact that the American population may have more underlying medical illnesses than some other populations across the world. And so like. I said we're cautiously watching but us. Far cautiously reassuring. What about a mom? Who has tested positive Transferring it to the baby and it's a great question. Similarly we have not seen any clear evidence of transmission to the baby. While mom is pregnant there are a couple of reports that have raised a little bit of concern. They've shown some survey markers of infection or inflammation in babies who are born after mom's were pivot positive but best far. We haven't seen that. There is any clear illness related to that. How about this idea that A mom goes to deliver the baby and you know contracts it and then has to be separated from her newborn for the very earliest parts of the life. That's something that's really scary to a lot of expectant MOMS sure and a very understandably scary one thing that will say is that the CDC has softened their recommendation language. A bit on this in that it is not a mandate that moms be separated from their newborn infants but that is be a shared decision making process with the hospital staff of physicians and the patient in that women who may be particularly ill maybe shedding a lot of virus may choose to have their infant's separated potentially more so than women who have recovered for example and are doing well. It really is recommended that this via case by case decision. I've got a friend whose daughter is expecting. And she wants to go there and be with her. A lot of husbands and partners have said the same thing. What are you recommending for those people I mean for in in her instance? She's in New York. Her daughter is in Atlanta Should she go and be be self quarantining now The same for a husband. I mean it's just so confusing for a lot of people. They don't know what to do. The recommendations in general are the people not travel. They stay home if they are able to. And if they can not go from city to city to decrease the risk of carrying this virus from city to city in people who are already living in a shared space the recommendations really vary from place to place as we know that we should limit visitors as much as possible on labor and delivery units Most labor and delivery units if they are allowing visitors are allowing one support person to help moms. Do you have anything that you would like to add? You know words of encouragement for expectant MOMS and you know everybody anybody else. Who's you know? Just obviously high levels of anxiety I mean. Does that stress out the baby as well. I think that the important thing for us to remember is that the vast majority of people who get this infection even if they get the infection do well they tend to recover? There's a small very small proportion that ends up very ill things that we are all doing. Thus far really appear to be working so the continuing to social distance for as long as possible Minnesota Berry by municipality as long as they continue to do the things that are recommended they will likely do very well and their babies will likely be very healthy and as I said the the reassuring nature of the information that we have in pregnancy. Thus far shouldn't give moms some general peace of mind. We actually have one piece of good news at the silver lining around this infection for for MOMS Abby thank you so much. I think it's gotTa be reassuring for a lot of pregnant women out there and take care and stay safe and stay healthy. Thank you so much you to families who took care of loved ones with special needs face unique challenges the covert nineteen outbreak. They're left without all the support that they have come to rely on AIDS therapists teachers and people often juggling work while providing care is also a concern about how children will adapt socially when they do return to school. Abc's Devon Dwyer sat down with a few families across the country to discuss some of the challenges they're facing how long for ten year old Miranda Wind chills who has autism and down syndrome. Life under quarantine is anything but routine do you want. Let's go show your schedule like many parents these days. Mariah's are trying to keep learning on track. Mom Melissa points out the science experiments growing yeast by the Board Games living room now home to Mariah cardboard rocket ship in sentence diagrams. How concerned are you that her development her socialization is going to be set back in a big way. I'm really concerned for parents. With special needs children life in a pandemic comes without many of the usual supports those home health aides therapists coaches teachers and most of all routine. A lot of our routines have changed. You guys are clearly stressed. A lot of anxiety. Single Dad Rob Gorski of Canton. Ohio says he's been overwhelmed on my dad to three autistic kids and my oldest is medically fragile. Also one of the things that he has right now is compromised. Immune system twenty year old son Gavin shows off his pump for gene infusions to boost his immunity. It's pretty stressful worrying about trying to keep him healthy and safe by not exposing him to anything really. The Gorski haven't left the house for thirty days testing their patients with each other and their communication skills to stay locks com. Stick with your parents. We stick with our dad and he's the best stab could ever have issue right. Now Flushing I. How good your good do you miss your friends? Y Yeah Single Mother. Opal Foster of southern Maryland also worries about the impact of isolation on her son Jeremiah. Who has down syndrome? There's a lot of things that a team that they're not gonNA be getting or working on. Kind OF GETTING ZIMMER. At meeting together so that you guys see each other and after losing her job at a printing company last month foster now wonders whether they'll stay financially afloat. I love to say that Everything will go back to normal tomorrow. Snap our fingers and everything. It'd be back just the way that it was but it won't another glimpse of the new challenges around dining room table in Washington. Dc Danny is medically fragile so the virus itself would be pretty devastating to him. Megan scully and Chris Dot fulltime caregivers for their four year old son. Danny who has a rare brain disorder putting an increased risk from cove in nineteen? One of the the fights for us is keeping the frontline for us here at home instead of possibly having to go to the hospital as we talk outside. Danny's two year old brother Elliott inside keeping that distance as older brother. Sam tells us he's worried. Are you afraid of the disease? Because like what if Dini catches it like or what if I catch it? If I catch it I would probably have to stay in my room all day. Maybe kill weeks and like I wouldn't get to see him. That'll danny was just beginning to learn how to communicate when the pandemic close to school. We are home-schooling second grader. And we are trying to get Danny's therapies in To the best that we can but we just cannot replicate what they can do at school. And you're holding down two fulltime jobs. Yes yes so. We're ending the three hour shift here. I'm switching off Orion. I wrote a story same from Melissa Windchill Tongling between daycare and her day job a fulltime university professor still lecturing grading papers in advising hundreds of students among them now Mariah. Who's still struggling to understand all that loss of normalcy. Greek almost feels fresh. Tavon every day. Almost like they're experiencing it all over for the first time so we're having a lot of you know just daily crying. How have you explained to her? What pan-demic is taught her the Word Corona virus? She knows that word Kobe. Nineteen it's to the point now that she calls it. Stupid Corona Virus Distress many parents say is relentless. I am on the couch for the second time because I am just so tired often exhausted but still resilient I think this sense that nothing is permanent so fragile to see we'll be snow and I think that's the wisdom that we're bringing into the experience of quarantine and into corporate this week Jewish families around the world who would normally spend. Passover together gathered around computer screens instead to take part in virtual sater's some called them zoom overs at the end of the meal when you'd normally say next year in Jerusalem people said next year in person later this month. Muslims will start Ramadan and of course this is Easter weekend. Abc News producer. Dana Schaefer talk with both religious leaders and business owners about how celebrating this year is unlike any other with Easter sneaking up on so many of us Sunday and as one of the first holidays fully taken over by this new way of life big question is how will we celebrate when so many things have changed things I think people will realize how much they missed. Physically being present at the Mass Monsignor Richie from Saint Patrick's Cathedral in New York City has never experienced an event like this before the Cathedral only closing one other time during its one hundred forty years service to the community. You're only a couple of people presence. We have an organised and a singer and the priest himself or in the case of the cardinal cardinal and a couple of other priests with the Cathedral would have echoed with over a thousand voices filling the holy place with song in prayer now will be filled with just a handful of priests streaming over the Internet. We've been live streaming our masses for at least ten years So this is nothing new. Do every single day during the crisis. Obviously we can't have immature. The way worshipers celebrate Easter will be different this year due to Cova nineteen of Virtual Palm Sunday celebrated recently gives a preview of what Easter Sunday is predicted to be like as it turns out that thousands of people are rushing and connecting on the live stream. So that we've had were having a good effect on a lot of people throughout the country. Staying connected may be difficult and the distance tough to process. I think holidays are going to be very different. Even our family itself would normally go to church on Sunday morning as a family and then go to a Nice Easter dinner afterwards and celebrate the end of our busy holiday season. We are not going to be able to do that this year. In New Jersey. A local chocolate shop has been learning new ways to prepare for the holiday. Easter is our biggest holiday of the year. Ginny monk is the third generation owner Brahmos Chocolates in Woodland Park New Jersey and says while it's been difficult for business. They're grateful for the outpouring of support. Customers have been thrilled to now that we are still able to provide them their Easter chocolates and keep their Easter traditions alive and that their kids will not feel like the Easter bunny wasn't able to visit them. We are ensuring that that will happen. Speaking of Candy we travel to Bethlehem Pennsylvania to speak to David Yale President and CEO of just born quality confections maker of the iconic peeps brand marshmallow. Candy is funny story when just born decided to suspend production due to the pandemic. It wasn't taken lightly. This is the first time the factory has closed. Its doors in. Its Eighty eight year history. We just fell that we wanted to be a real stalwart community oriented citizen making that into account and we felt that it would be in the best interest to help. Flatten occur producing over five point. Five million colorful sugar coated chicks and bunnies a day. David says there's really no concern of a shortage. The colorful candies have already been produced and shipped to retailers for the Easter Holiday. Candy plays a role in people's emotional wellbeing. They play a role in helping people feel better about themselves and whatever they're going through most importantly as just born continues to support their employees during the production hall. The company is giving back to the community donating fifteen thousand pairs of gloves to meals on wheels and local Lehigh valley hospitals as well as our total availability of one hundred twenty five and s ninety five masks. That were also donating to local hospitals. 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All-Star Gripes and Glories, Kevin Garnetts Rocky Relationship With the Timberwolves, and Blake Griffin Signs With the Nets | Real Ones

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All-Star Gripes and Glories, Kevin Garnetts Rocky Relationship With the Timberwolves, and Blake Griffin Signs With the Nets | Real Ones

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I feel like one of the characters from the chapelle show player haters ball. Skit like i get the most fan bases or annoying as hell a lot. Like i understand the knicks fans. Delong narrow category narrowly beaten out. Like the cowboys fans lakers fans. I'm looking at you logan. And sasha yankee fans in ohio state fans all y'all in your own little group but expands way up at the top all right now things on the top. This may be exacerbated. By the fact that i live in brooklyn and i hear people talking outside my window about the knicks. All day i'm tired of and my bitter that they have my favorite teams old coach and about to a my favorite former bulls from his century. Yet like i get it the The knicks are legitimately good. They got a top three. Are their top team on deepens. Got over five hundred record and they got a real steel Quickly but they also got l. Payton reggie bullet. Rj berry. julie's ran will mitchell routes all right. Let's let's call down and frankie smokes. Look good but he not looking good enough to be going viral every day. All right don't be going on twitter. talking me about. Julius randle is better than chris. Bosh was shut the hell up. Y'all don't know what you're talking about. There have been some real real stupid tweets in the past month on nba twitter. Panetta's is a top too stupid tweet. I i don't need to see y'all massless celebrate now. Msg seventeen to seventeen relax. You five hundred common down. Your team hasn't made the playoffs. Since mike woodson was the coach i was reading a story on new york post today. The knicks fans are blowing hundreds of dollars on last minute cova tests so that they could get into the arena. Which doesn't seem like a great idea. Considering we're still on the dampness soleil. I feel like maybe everybody just take a little chill pill you know what i'm saying like the poll says An embassy spokesperson told them. You need a pcr tests which basically means you need a test in the past three days. Whatever to get in but again saga onto the arena. Let your team get like real good. You know what i'm saying. Like let shaw get into the play offs. Not talking about the playing games like let y'all get really really into the playoffs and host a playoff game and then y'all be out here hopefully vaccinated celebrating any streets until they shut the hell up ho ho sympathize listening so let me let me happening here real quick as the resonant knicks fan son. And just talk to you. Take some game okay. We are sitting firmly at nine thousand nine hundred eighteen in a garden sign. We are to mecca a basketball. The number one team in the eastern conference is only add. twenty two thousand twelve. We are whisker behind in terms of our julius randle. Julius randle is five times better than that boy they used to play in. Toronto went down a became relegated to a three point shooter in in in in miami. All right. he's carrying a franchise right now to hopes of a whole damn city the big apple and never sleeps his own minnesota and he's delivering left and right. We can't help it if the end of our benches square. We got some time to get rid of that. We can work on. That's my arguments. And that's why i met. But y'all not even the best team in a ten mile radius. And you talk about you. The best team in east rolex talk to that man kevin durant then get compensation Record right now. We're we're we're coming in hot right now. We're ready to go. Hey man mic. Check one two one two. Let's he's i'm recording right. Now go drake. Drake was the biggest. The biggest artists the biggest artists i made. I can't make a mistake right now. Asked asking i'm not hating. I'm a big drake fan. The question is is the best. And that's what i thought you. Were just launching them. He is the biggest and the best in the game right now. Yes at this very moment. yes i'll defer. i'm not a hip hop. Hey look. I'm not into this generation of hip hop the same awka. Okay appreciate it. I think he's like like to say or now. There are now you should know when new stuff comes out bro. You need to follow more than eighteen people. I feel i feel like i'm i feel like i'm lost without an iphone in the twitter landscape. Like i can't get where i'm trying to go like. I know where. I wanna go with my twitter gay but i can't get there like i don i needed. I need a tutor or some shit. Like i'm bad are and i got into a the other day on twitter like only into the show show. Go use all that sasha. That's a cold open right there anyway. That's called it's called radio anyway was five in ruins. Logan murdoch here with raja bill rogers coming in hot today. You good bro. How you doing man no. I'm not i'm not. i'm gonna just keep it up telling his son. I was like boom like got a pot in an hour. I tell the kids a daddy's gonna go get himself ready. You've got a pod. If you need me i'm in the office like you guys can handle your school on your own so i mean the mirror like and it's been a while right like i. I looked at myself for a good hard. Like ten or fifteen seconds. And i'm like damn dog. Cove has really taken a toll on your boy like hairline even further back than it was gray in my in my lightweight. Little scraggly beard and shit like depressed. I'm not gonna keep it a buck. I looked cove. It is not nice to mind broder. Did you like did you do the let me see let me see. Let me see you already look old but did you a quick quick black guy on your house. Well i'm actually like. I've been blessed in that regard like that. I'm not all the way. Because i got friends. Who are but i guess. My point is like pre covid. You could barely see any. And now when i look the mirror like icy patches of it and so it's because you were you were bald during throughout the whole time. He was keeping his schedule. When you're getting your haircut now bro you don't even know david can in any care anymore. While i really don't like today for some reason. I did and i just it was. It hurt my feelings. Man i can. I can feel like. I'm supposed to be a robot initiate i'm supposed to be. I mean you know ruins ruins and get hurt. My feelings were hurt lake earlier. This week on twitter we listen man. Some cat was in that she'd gone an calling me like the virus in utah. Shit like that bro. I again. I don't know what's appropriate for twitter but felt myself context really quickly. We've context really quickly. I was looking on twitter the other day. It says after the darren williams episode hits. And i see raja just i see one response to our cool. He's a central in response to a fan cool or a listener. I don't know if he's a fan but a listener right and go all right. I'm not even thinking anything. I picked the phone back up. There are five more responses to this dude. One response roger. You got a lotta shit off your chest bro. You got a lotta shit off your chest on twitter. You like really date. I did so. That's basically this is why i needed a tutor for twitter right. Like that's not the platform for that. I guess It's probably why. I shouldn't be on twitter in the first place but like unless i'm not out here for like if you would call me al out for like factual shit and slander. Be cool. but you ain't gonna be sitting here calling me out of my name though ain't going to do that. Rouser raza. what's funny is the first one. Probably the second thing. I thought of when i saw the first one was like what the fuck is doing. The second thing i thought of was roger matured now. He's a little older. I can only imagine what he would be doing. He was in his twenties and had twitter. Because you are going to end with like six responses you probably would have found do's address and just pulled up on them if you would have at. This was twenty twenty five year old riser. It confirmed for me. That like twitter is too much personal access. Both both for me and for other people. I have no business. Being in the landscape it's entertaining times like not can dig. Why you need to do is bring out respond to that. Because you get much like you just get way too much stuff man and also you have a platform right here to where it's a bigger platform. You currently have right now on the twit. So you filming. If you wanna get a chance you do right here. Like i never shy away from getting it off. I'm just saying. I felt like the income. I was engaged. Like you know like the the access to just fire off commute or any good good friends you if that was a whoever whatever his name is if that was like what you were if you were really trolling trying to elicit that response competency bro. Well sick he got seventeen responses from you and he got a shot on the pod. He got exactly what he wanted. Just now. that's the that's the world we live in see. This is my old curmudgeon. That's the world we're right like. Yeah that now everybody going to hit you and your mentioned for the cloud just so they can get on real ones and ain't gonna happen. It's the last time not shutting. Shit down you. Have you ever wanted to verify. Devour to shut down. I go bad though. I do i go about that. Let's see if i could get birthday or no. You know what you know. What let me give it a buck. Jomie for the show you make it happen social team joe me jump jomie looking right at you. I'm looking riots. You player anyway Who gets this shit's this is after the. That was nice. Little warm of been warned dog woof anyway. All star game yesterday. Yeah thoughts and that's what boss rouser would you think my stance on the league not like needing to not do. It may have changed. I don't think they needed to do it. But i'm glad that they did. I think they navigated it. Pretty well could have been a catastrophic thing with what ben simmons and joel embiid dell like dodged. Bullet went up. Listen sitting there as a fan with my kids last night. Watching watching it was fine like appreciate it. A roger atlanta is in shambles abro see atlanta like the all star game was great and itself. Right all star game was a fun. Time stefan Three point shootout duncan was eh. We'll get to any second It was entertaining game by all accounts but was our guy mark stein times so that the nba had to send out to over two hundred cease and desist letter cities parties because they were affiliated themselves with the nba during a raging pandemic. I saw somebody's on broke. When nobody wearing a mask was fights it was so lit in these these atlanta clubs brown. It was retained was relegated. I i mean. I don't know what it's like where you are but this is our normal here. Like i'm i'm out like no one in florida's wearing a mask outside in public like no one you know when you're going into the store they are but i. I've been multiple places over the last week. Or so where i'm like. Oh so this is just how we're doing this. Now this is. I mean i'm not i'm not gonna be about all that but i wasn't as surprised me because i see california california's different. We live in his bubble bro. Like there. I mean there are some people that don't wear masks. But for the most part by and large they wear masks out here and braquet tell you the last time i saw a flier for a day party club. None of that out here. I don't even know what that is. But i'm just saying like all-star landless dog. Yeah yeah. I never been i. You know. I've been to one all star weekend. I was when it was out here. Oakland in two thousand and six and me and my mom did the thing where there was this low. There was all all star. James back in a day or they still do it with all star jam and it was It was a one of those tapes where you can commentate on some of your favorite iconic nba moments. And my mom's did the Michael jordan last shot in utah was was that one right. That was the beginning of my journalism for right there. That was when i was like oh state. I'm gonna do this. I was like six. So that sat out to the all star weekend in oakland for that The game was cool. You some some gripes about a certain Type of player. That should not be in the all star game though roger here trying to set me up and i know you did this. This is your fault. Why you mad. You really mad this morning. Not i'm mad four a segment of the nba population. Big men have no place in all star games. They have no place in them. Like unless you're honest and you're able to push it on apple go ahead not you could call it like i feel bad for them because clearly there all stars and they deserve to be in the game but the way the game has the way the game has changed like i just feel bad. They're stuck in the middle like there no real touches for a big middle every now and again. Last night rudy gobert got the obligatory lay. Hey let me give you this. Dunk down low big fella but other than that. She was like at a place the entire game. I felt bad. Yeah no they absolutely deserve to be in the all star game you talk shack for olympic. Talk let's talk about what i said though bro and we talk bro though for damn near a decade and a half shack made the all star game. Hello fun man. You know what. I mean all you just need you just need these big manage to be showman. You need to take them out of the game. You need them. Just do fun stuff. Like joel embiid. Who would have been great for the all star game. Because he's talking shit. He's putting his fist up in the air. He's just he's millie rock and he's doing whatever he can get under people's skin that's what you need man. You don't need just some guys stand around you need. Entertainment is all it is. I don't think discriminating against the big man. That's why david was used to elbow you bro. You're hate on a big man. Can i speak now. Yeah go ahead because you completely took what i said in twisted. I did not say that they did not deserve to be in the game. Nor did i ever say. I did not want them in the game. I said i felt bad for them. Because there's no place in the game for them. Game is played the prepaid meeting and it kind of alluded to that. You're not you're not living. You're wraps be but you're not listening man like you're you're ready to talk before you're listening bro. And when like i i'm with you And that's why y- honest. I actually thought joel embiid would have been a good fit as a big in that game nickel not bad but vosa vich and and rudy gobert. Their style of play isn't really conducive to being like hella fun to watch in an all star game and it's okay like i still think they deserve to be there. I just felt bad. 'cause like you're a big you're there. You have a certain skill set. It doesn't match the game it's like unfolding and you're left. Condo lake was shit. I can't get off in this type of environment. And i felt bad. Okay okay so you're not excluding anyone from now hell no like look man and joel embiid right now. I think bigs deserve to be there. The game and i thought it was great like i loved watching if these shoot. Logan like yeah. Did you see the way they were shooting. The ball bro. I did i was. It was funny because i was a psych. Damn stephan like for a second. I was like steph dame together on one team somehow. We need to make this happen right. I was just like some. They're chucking from three point. Range man like they are. They're they're they're buddy buddy man. I just was like we need to see to habit. And also to see lebron and steph on the same team and also more than anything to see steph back in an all star. Weekend was great just to see that like we. We were like we weren't able to see steph in last year's all star game because he was injured and it was just good to see that man what excitement he brings to the game. You know because one thing we're going to get to sure as the dunk contest and how it wasn't how how wasn't good by all accounts. It wasn't good. But i think part of that is because we didn't really have any stars we didn't have anybody to like really be invested into watch that now you take that to the three point contest. We have a bona fide top five player in the league just killing in the three point contest. That was really good to see that to see someone win the all star weekend like that. I believe just a play. Really good in all star game didn't get the mvp but to also but to get an award like the three point shooting Competition so fun thing to see this weekend So wanna take it back to my original comment about kind of change in my opinion on whether the nba should have done the all star. The when i started to really shift the way i felt was when i saw staff and a couple other players specifically and the emotion that they had and they were having a good time. I think steph led the charge with like you could see how happy he was to be there and how he was enjoying himself and so that spoke volumes to me as a former player. Like if they're having this much fun. And i'm sitting here with my family watching and enjoying it then it's probably the right thing to do. I'm with you and now you need stars to compete in some of these things To to kind of drive interest in steph the three point shootout was was the best of the of the competitions for me. It was because you had steph. But you know mike mike conley. You had bigger names across the board in terms of jason tatum and and donovan. Mitchell and jalen brown across the board. You had bigger names. Like even if steph is not in the conversation. I still think it's a better product. 'cause you have bigger bigger names you know. Yeah for sure. I think that An historic with over the last decade last few years. The three point contest is ben by alarms. The the Event it's especially with what the rise of the three point shot. It is the event now. And i did growing up by not thing that the three point contest with over think the contest and it absolutely has kinda honestly been three point skills than dunk contests and maybe there was a couple years in which we talked about. The zach levine. Dunk contest was great The others act levine with with With the aaron. Gordon was great. Yep and then you have like a couple in between like jason. Richardson was but over. The last few years it's been i the dot com has been all right but it's more so of like no one wants to know one of reverence other than like dwight howard wants to go into the dunk contest. And it's like okay. Well then i don't wanna watch this. I don't wanna watch such i don. I never heard of these players. Want some place. So i missed today. Where like no you're mj's and your your your nominee weeks and guys like that. I mean i. I don't i don't know that it ever goes back to that. So you just got to kind of you got to wrap your mind around it but i do think the league has to do and maybe this year was a different set of circumstances because you were trying to reduce the amount of people they were going to be you know in in that bubble so to speak down there so you didn't want to have but there you can get a more. I have no problem with the three doctors. Were in it none at all but but you can have a more comprehensive field. Do you know what. I mean you you can have me. Yeah you know what i mean. Like that helps drawn up more interest. The rules were super shady like that. You know. maybe you're just trying to squeeze it in a half time. I'm not even going to bite my tongue or mince words with that. It was shitty like that. You know like it was it just had no. There was no drama. There was no build up it was to the game correct correct so it didn't do him any favors but they need to have three people out there. Logan yeah i mean. I think that that's more has to do. With the fact that they just need a dunk contest but at halftime that i think that's also what it was for the next year Hopefully next year that they have you know the world is totally different in. They're able to have a full all star weekend I think it's the salt lake city is gonna be cold But yeah i think it'll be. I think it can be better but it has to be buying from from the From the superstars But it was overall was by the court. Product was really. I mean it was good. It was a good thing to see a lot of people. Happy was a lot of it was a good thing to You know the only thing that was that was different was it was it was it was played alongside oprah's big time interview with megan markle that was messy but And see that i do. I do know that there was a sequence right. Before half time where i think dame caught a caught hoop then maybe a couple of plays took place and then from an atom balanced play steph curry back doored from the right wing and caught a pretty nice to hand banger. Like that's not an easy catch. Don't you know what i mean like. That's and so and then came right back down the other end and steph to alaba. Cpi three you got three relatively small guards all catching lobs in the first half. And then i can't who can't jump you use short dues. Uk jumble love them week. Dunks don't you guys love those little ducks short came down. Why you putting you lumping me in that. Yeah i see what what was your doctor. I wasn't a dunker in the lebron. I went forty. I'll give you. I've forty on avert. I give you whatever. Don't you want us between. We'll win legs. We weren't doing between the legs. Dunks when i came back and mass mass was not. I never seen no lousy roger from nash. That was not how i played in the nba like but in college and in a cba. That's what i did and it speaks to when you get somewhere and you kind of figure out your role and you know it's it takes too much to go in there and try to dunk remember. Trended don't go into combat matombo one of my first practices with the sixers Come straight outta the cba. like yo. i will crack on anybody and he did not block it but the foul that took place and we have to like pick myself up off the floor and make sure that my bones weren't broken. I was like oh oh no no no no city give you the finger afterwards. Did he do after. I didn't get it because he didn't. He didn't like cleanly blocked a shot. It was just a lot of connie. Did he do that in practice to now. I wasn't a finger waiver in practice but but the point was like. That's just not what i did but don't be sleeping on my bounce. Start disrespectful and i let you get away with a lot of loose rat but we do that. Okay all right all right. It's like okay. Whatever you could sitting noted we do that. We got my camera right now looking at. I'm right here. i'm reading here roy. Tough on the phone nephew. He got me like whoever that was on. Twitter byles already. Let's take a quick break man. Let's talk about some stuff has piqued my interest and minnesota barf. If you have thirty minutes you never have to worry about a break in at home ever again. That is how quick and easy it is to set up a security system from simply say it's the kind of thing that is so easy that you can do it during a netflix. Spins watching the game or listening to a certain podcast. 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Wolves most notably cajun relation with timber. Wolves owner glen taylor who he's long had like a simmering low beef wit. You know what i mean over the years you call them Calling a few names. I'll say that called him. A snake A few times. i'll let let's make this picture really quickly. So cagey face of the timber. Wolves that is on a salable unequivocal. Everything that you want to say. He is the timber wolves right. So you know has timber. Career goes to the boston celtics. goes to the brooklyn nets comes back to the minnesota timberwolves Believe in twenty fifteen And according to him the plan was for him to you. Know groom. Karl anthony towns. Groom this young team and then retire and then get an Either an ownership stake or work towards owning the timber. Wolves at some point in time and a group that featured Flip saunders flip. Saunders passes cagey says that The initial talks were then. Put off the table by glenn taylor and then ever. Since then it's been a war of words between the two and then recently You know. I recently about in july of last year. Cagey says you know. I'm back in the bidding ready to bid. Because glenn taylor is about to sell the tape right and and this story by the athletic when taylor says that there will never know bid and cagey in cagey announced. He's no longer in the bidding process. But when taylor says there has been no bid whatsoever there was no he a series group. There was nothing. I don't know who i believe in this raja But i do know this Over the years the timber wolves have not been have not been great to keiji just in general they have not. They haven't even retired the man's jersey it do from your vantage point do the wolves. Oh cagey a stake. In the franchise at the very least at the most owning the franchise do they do. They owe them no. Do you owe it to him to retire jersey. Yup do you owe it to him to bring him back into the fold and try to mend fences. As as the best player ever in franchise history have him around and have him involved in that. Yeah but i don't. I don't know that anyone owns it anywhere else. A piece of their business just for having been the best employee there. I don't i. Don't i don't subscribe to that now. There's nothing wrong with that. If you chose to do that like i think it would be a great look for minnesota If if glen taylor was to do that and to somehow get kevin garnett involved like you. Referenced the lakers and magic in some capacity right like i think that would be great but the question is do they owe it to him and the answer to that for me is no. I agree with that. I can't agree with that. Because i mean nba. An nba franchises are oneness. A business in light. Yo glencoe to ever he wants now. I don't know the back door conversations that they had that hasn't been you know fully publicized basically. He says he said this is what happened. Mind scenes for whatever reason k. g. feels like there was a deal in place now. There was a deal in place and there was an understanding in place. And i would feel cagey right. I feel for my s different But even then like unless it's in writing you notice as it being in business like there's been any writing and it don't mean yes. Hand the handshake the handshake deal over a scotch or bourbon. Like that's because that does boil down to. He says she says like or he said he said like you. You have to have that in writing. There's a contract in place a deal anything short of that and you're not out anything and that's unfortunate but that's the way it is. How should teams treat their star players. Then because even with the ownership beef. I don't believe that the wolves have treated cagey well all during his time. So ownership aside like what is a good way to treat a star player. Who is a cornerstone player. In your franchise history i. I think it's important that that a team. Let's let's just for the sake arguments. Say that the stars difficult and there's like a contentious relationship with ownership or something like that. He's there but he's able to do things in a franchise that no one else has ever done. In the best player clearly franchise. history. I think the franchise franchisee to the player to separate the two once he's retired and there's been some time you know Between the the situation and and the ability to maybe retire his jersey so those have to be separate conversations like i might not have loved said player while he was here but he lived and breathed what we did. He was the face of the franchise we got. We did what we did. His jersey needs to be retired. That's fair you have to be able to separate the emotion and celebrate him that you have in the arena. It keeps a connection to the past with your franchise all of that's important now if that owners still in place and that player wants to be back around the franchise and those fences haven't been mended. That could be difficult thing. Logan and i'm going to go back again and say like you don't owe them anything in that regard because you know it's your business you can run it how you see fit. I don't think it's the prudent way to run your business. You white links to pass success. Best players in franchise history to have relationships with the new guys right and to be around as a resource. Not just to them but to fans and so on and so forth so. I don't think it's great but you could choose not to do that. I think again organizations need to understand like the retiring but jersey and the celebration of player. That did what they did for your franchise is is has to be separate from like who that person was behind closed doors in arguments with you over contracts and so on and so forth the biggest thing that you that we have to realize this is. It's not just about cagey is not just about glenn. Taylor's is not about the timber wolves. it's a collective and this sets president for future players in who wanna come there and who what they think about that organization optics general from a player's standpoint. You know a player sees with. Glenn taylor is doing and best player of all time not getting treated you know right from a player's standpoint. People see that you know. That's why coby coby got like a big contract when he clearly was injured and things like that. That's why magic. It's an ownership stake. That's why when kevin durant leaves your franchise and golden state. You say no one else is gonna wear jersey number. This is this simple stuff like that right just to show not just a player that is affecting but showing future players like you know if i want to come to this franchise how will i be treated mean so team sleep on that. It's a good point like team sleep on how important it is. You know we talk about his players every time you go out on the court. You're auditioning for for potential employer right and those employees being the other teams in the nba. But it's important that franchises keep that in mind too because players are watching right and i would take it a step further. Even in terms of lake on our last darren talked about people not wanting to come to utah right like you know i. I didn't really experience that. But once i had gotten because i didn't ask anyone to play with me right. I kind of player but the point is i had been to to dallas I then went to phoenix. And i was in other places so when i went back to utah i could see from some of the date. The dating of what was going on behind closed doors that like in terms of like you know not not really having food available to players after games in a city where it's going to be impossible to get a meal once you leave there because everything shuts down his salt lake at a certain time. So they're families are at the game and there's no food prep right and you've got millions and millions and millions of dollars invested in in in said player and he got to go to mcdonald's and get a meal because there's nothing available to him like you know i would have these conversations with kevin o'connell hey we think about getting you know like i don't know just get some caters so you can grab a plate on the way out stuff stuff like that behind closed doors. That weren't necessarily at that time. Meeting the standards of what was going on around the league that speaks to players trying to get them to come there. And you're not you're not keeping up with the rest and so it speaks to what you're talking about right like if you're not going to be a team that's taking care of players. Other guys are watching that they understand that. Yeah i remember when When the kings got bought sacramento kings got bought by vivek in his big ownership group. One of the first things they did they were still in our corinna. You remember how that that You remember how that visiting locker room wasn't arco arena. Oh it was tough But one of the things he did was before he got the new the new arena was he really He renovated at new locker room and arco arena. And the reason why he did it was he said one of the things that i was hearing was. He said those are potential free agents. Those are free agents and now than that other locker room and ed to take that a few years later and golden state when they have chased center. They have one of the best visitor's locker rooms in the league. You know there's a were pool of a pool. Inara hot a hot a hot pool a cold a cold tub. You know what i mean. There's a state of the art. It looks like you know all school home locker rooms. You know what i mean. But that's that's the impression that you give when you you know you want eight. Because that's their first introduction to how you guys operate you know like you know the war is gonna wars has what i've seen first hand practice facility in the arena so even if an opposing player wants to get shots up and don't want to see fans like bom here right here Want to lift weights boom right here. You know what. I mean so short. That's that's the standard you're trying to set when you know you you are an organization especially when you're an organization that's trying to facelift right. That's trying to You know you are seeing that in phoenix your old stomping grounds right now right where they're having this change and how people perceive them And how they perceive their organization but it starts with Taking care of your star player and star players Historically great players and kevin garnett at least make the appearance that you support him. Because it's not about either one about how you wanna keep building your business in how you're showing how you treat people who help built that business that you have created or your have vested in two zero one percent correct but we you know we talk about. I say it all the time like you know. There's a reason franchises. Some of them are stuck where they are. It's not the players. It's not like you're the talent. It's come through some of those organizations and have worn those uniforms. In some instances good as other places tonight they might not have had the megastar. Maybe they should have won a championship. But the reason they are stuck where they are as a franchise generally is a bigger problem than the players wearing the uniforms. Can you dig what i'm saying. Yeah for sure. I mean and also like ownership in front office on necessarily gotta like these great players but they dance. Got a fake it. You know what i mean. 'cause that's that's how you get more talent you know. Don't matter how you fell behind the scenes but at least front facing you should take care of your guys so Hope that fit gets figured out man so me too but again i mean i think logan i'd say it again. If you wanna be a hard headed dude and cut off your nose to spite your face. You don't technically by the letter of the law owe anyone anything. It's your business you can run. You can run it into shambles if you'd like right to you. Can't i. mean what. What organization are we talking about right now roger. I'm talking about like if you if you choose to hold onto a grudge and not have. Kevin garnett is part of of what's going on in minnesota. Just because there's something going on like that's your right to do so and and it's a shame because minnesota has some pieces man like anthony. Edwards is great. I really like watching him. Play karl anthony towns. He's a great player. It's i'm just pausing because it's like man you know everything that he's gone through over the last years it's like it's heartbreaking but they got some pieces there and just for to have the story of them not being the up and coming team but more so of how there's strife within ownership and off the greatest player in franchise history is tough man especially when you're trying to build something right now yep agree so yeah man. Well we'll take another quick break. We're gonna have a talk about a team that is near and dear to your heart. 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Rigo bear a point in this instance. you know that i'm not afraid to take the bait when it comes to rash and whether or not i i will take that. Big gladly Yes for them. You take the bait. Not even for them. You just gotta get stuff off a year chest about the reps. This has nothing to do with the players involved but go ahead. It doesn't but i will. I will elaborate on. Why i think it is fair in there is i just. I know rushing to be an imperfect science. I know refs make mistakes. And i've voiced my opinion as to why it irks me sometimes in this particular instance as donovan mitchell and rudy bear. I think it's fair that that you can play. But i think you have to realize kind of who you are in the equation and i mean. No shade with this superstars are getting these calls right. They're the ones that get the benefit of the doubt and i can feel the frustration because you're the best team in the in the nba. Right right like you have the best record in the nba. So with that you expect and you've been conditioned to think that you're going to get calls. But like i was in the front office with the cleveland. Cavaliers the year that atlanta had the best record in the east and they had four all stars but no superstars and when we face them as lebron james and the cleveland cavaliers. We got the benefit of the doubt. Because we had lebron james like. So you don't do you know what i mean. The stars are white generate the calls not necessarily the team's success and so while it's certainly not fair to donna mitchell and rudy gobert. You gotta understand. That's the way this game is played like just because you're really team that you roll your eyes and i get it took people here but it's facts you haven't done enough yet to warrant getting the benefit of the doubt unequivocally gino i was gonna just ask you about that because utah. Jazz are the best team in the league right now. Unequivocally they are the best team in the last row basketball association however they still new money. They still way new money. No one has consistently been the top team in the league for. They haven't been this. Good since karl malone and john stockton labor when a sixty games back to you they have this good right sure so what i mean by that. Is they still got some dues to pay grade. They still need to play. Still how playoff success to have right. They still got beat. They still gotta get to the finals right. They still have to do. They have to finish the job and in order to do that. They still have to pay their dues and a lot of ways in my opinion What i will ask you though like what does that balance with the refs right because yeah man you could say to rouse got me. Messed up dotted. i The like this back calls every day. Be right but how often before it gets the message. Just gets diluted right where this like. Okay donovan and rudy and draymond steve kerr and everybody wanna call are just being like they're just yelling at the refs and then it just doesn't help them at the end of the day right because these reps have feelings too right one way or another. Sometimes they'll be sympathetic to your calls and be like bad. I messed up. I will very very few instances of that. Okay roger. we know that you're scorned right now. We get no what i'm saying that happens. If you're not a star that happens way less frequent. But what i'm saying is does what is the balance in always balancing talking about refereeing versus just being like okay. I'm gonna play through. What is what is the balance that you have to have as an mba player. There's no balance. There's no ballots. you can't win you can't you can't win by talking about the referees. It's a no win situation. Now visit getting your head when you do talk about in the refs ninety by worried about. Don't know damn rest like it's cathartic. Sometimes they get up there and say your piece right like me on twitter this week like it was cathartic like i got it off my chest. It doesn't mean anything to anyone the rest care that you're sitting up there. Talking about the nba is going to love you. They're fine. you've already calculated that as a player you know when you go into that press conference. I don't give a shit if i defined five thousand dollars right now because i'm getting this off my chest. Is it going to change anything. No but it's going to be cathartic. I want to get it off my chest and so you for yourself. You feel better. After you you sent those seven tweets absolutely okay. Absolutely now there are times. Logan and i don't wear in a playoff series as an organization. You can complain from the top like from a head coach. You know maybe even general manager reaching out to the league in regards plays that happens in the playoffs all the time and you can see refs come out in the next game with a different appreciation for the type of play that you've complained about or they brought talents in that too though roz because you can't be like the houston rockets and just do like of a powerpoint in the middle of the playoffs and try to get a game back like there's balancing their to their what you're talking about. You're talking about life overkill anything and expect the result come asking. That's why i'm asking if there's balance that you have to have is player organization from an organizational standpoint yeah from a player's standpoint. When it's dealing with the media in calling out rests there is no balance because it never is going to change the outcome of a call for you. There's there's nothing that you complaining and getting a fine. There's no impacted it's going to have on the way your wrath now where you can make your hey as a player with rests is in the relationships. Did you have with them. Like if if you can personally you know have conversations that don't get heated and you're able to keep cool and it's and you can approach them in a way where you know. They're not automatically put on the defensive. You can gain some traction with them you know relationship wise but once you get to a podium and say something about their inability to do the job or them costing you something that's not changing your fortunes in the future did you. Did you get to a place with greg willard after you call him out called greg willard out when when you I remember when it was a when you when you clothesline kobe. You like you guys stuff off your chest because he was elbowing. You pretty sure you said by name. I could bring up the clip. But i don't know if i i don't know if i sent him by name. I know there was no there was no rest. Didn't give you the benefit of the doubt. Because so i. I don't want do this but we're going to go the rest. They're not really accountable to anyone other than their their Above the boss in terms of how many calls you get right versus. How many you get wrong like. There's no real accountability -bility in terms of like like the last two mini report. Where they asked him. What were they put a pool reporter in there and they asked him a question about what did you think about this call like. Why did you pull this accountability. Now do you think it's had any effect on on Do you i. don't i mean there. There's more accountability by definition and there would be if you didn't have the two minute report but do you think it's made a difference in the way like some of these guys approach their job. I mean it makes them a bit more. I would say. I would human nature. I would say human nature would make you a bit more on edge if you have to talk about every bad. Call that she made and that there's a last minute report that is public emory game. What if you had to come out and defend the reason why you kick. Jj redick a game for passing the ball to you. Wouldn't there be more accountability. Then that what if you ref had to sit up there and explain why you kick. Jj out of a game and you were. You were grilled with questions about like the same way. Lebron james is grilled with questions as to why he deferred in two thousand and four on a shot that he should have by the public's estimation shot like my point. Is i know it will never get like that but in two. So you're saying you're the refs are to protected in what they do like even care. I don't care. But i'm just saying like there's nothing that you're really going to be able to do to change the way. They conduct themselves or the business that they do because there is no one that they answer to other than themselves. So it's just not changing so from a player's perspective. You can get mad. I got mad plenty of times. You can yell and scream at a rooftops but it ain't change anything you just got to be willing to take your find and keep it moving now for the utah. Jazz continued offer dog. Continue to win. Continue to double down on you being the best team in the nba. Donovan mitchell. Continue to take that next step into stardom and you will start to get the benefit of the doubt with some of those some of those because that's the way it works. Are you okay with the the disrespect that we're seeing to the utah jazz like like during the The all-star draft where lebron says he needs size and goes and picks a bonus over go bayer and then goes well. I don't nobody ever play with utah. Jazz game we'll never repair but like relax fair or come on. No look you go with some bonus. I came off the top and said that rudy gobert looked out of place in all star game right. Like lebron's nice stupid. How many all star games does he played in. He knows if you get yourself a big value on the defensive side of the ball mostly center that he's going to be pretty much null and void in a game that doesn't have any defence being played in it right so like i'm not mad that he doesn't pick rudy gobert when he says he needs size he needs size. They can do other things that game's not going to be played in the shade. It was real. Yeah so i just left it at that. He he could've now. Donovan should probably make the argument. He should have been picked already. Like i don't know why he was sitting there but but What he said was true. Like most people outside of utah weren't playing you to k with the jazz like they. Just they just weren't okay. I remember my player. Onto k guy draft about jazz. And i you know i play with jasmine. Because you're my player. Got drafted their dog. You weren't you weren't like and i don't mean anything. I don't mean no shade. Like i have this is in a shady dame like i'm just did he have to throw the shade. No right did not have to do that but there was no was there was there truth in it though. I mean like. I'm trying to be fair to everybody. Was there truth in that. Yeah i don't. I don't know that my kid my kids play to k. I don't think anyone's ever played with jazz in this house. And it's not because they don't like the jazz. It's just for one reason or another jazz. Don't ring bells. You ain't never just watch your kids like but i played for the jazz. You like daddy would have played a jazz jazz. My kids don't even make kids ain't worried about me. No damn video game. I just you know. I think it's pretty sure they're not. You could correct me if i'm wrong. Sure utah jazz fans will. It's a great brand. But it's it's it's not a national brand like it's more of a of of regional right. So i'm gonna say donna. Mitchell gets a buckets to say he gets a bug as into guys all. I'm saying you could get it nice low sixty burner from donovan mitchell on the right night onto k. I'm just saying it's a really good team. I'd i'd play with the jazz onto k i. Would they got a good team right now. You said i would did you. I have not gotten to k to k one listening. Don't do not. I haven't i asked you a pointed question you said i would play with the jets. I'll say this team. Have you played old. How old are you twenty seven. You're twenty seven years old in your twenty seven years. I would imagine at least twenty of them playing video games. Maybe eighteen of them. Have you ever played with jazz. Just sat down. And said hey. I'm gonna blow to jazz today. No because i was a laker fan. And i hated jets but oh man so look again. I think we can do both. I hope we can do both. This is no shade at the jazz. Like it's not like i lost by so messy chat right now all castes. She put an all caps daddy. Well like i don't know man. I take that back and you know where i play with jasmine. Nba james stockton and malone two player game playing chess player. Yeah you could mess with With the lakers. Two man game on engaging but it's cool nartay. Kobe shaq not no no no no no not at kobe shack shack and penny really opinion. Anyway you're back. This fact is a my point was i. Don't have the new two k. Right now you know to k. Was up on it right now. And i can't play with this roster this year's rosser it was this year's so i'll play with it's all i'm saying it's on okay. So maybe maybe the point that. Maybe what i'm taking away from. The conversation is stockton malone old jazz pre like to k video game type of stuff so they're dullness as a team would not have been able to be experienced online playing with them and beating people with them and in between that. Maybe they haven't necessarily risen to the level where you know. They're the best team in the nba. And people wanna play with them. Now i think you're darren williams was nice onto k. Was nice. i'm not saying. Darren was and i'm not saying they're teams weren't but i'm just saying maybe they didn't rise to the level of national profile where people when like i'm going to. I'm going to hop onto jazz. And maybe browne brown was trying to get a little on as all he was fair to that. That's all he was doing arbiter. Let's the buyout market right now. Blake griffin on the nets initial thoughts. And i mean. I like i like it. Like your brooklyn unique frontcourt depth. You don't even throw your defense well in a perfect world. you need front court depth. That is defense. But in an imperfect world where they're not a lot of candidates out there for you to scoop up and blake griffin is just kind of sitting around looking for a home. I think you're going to take the de logan and maybe you can continue to address front court defense but like we do say notably griffin sitting around like small ball five. You don't need them every night to be. You know two thirds of himself you only. You probably need them a handful of games to really have moments. So i like it. I don't know that it moves the needle a ton but it's insurance and that's what you're looking for. I don't know man. I get it. There's no really anybody else on the market right now. It just i just a lot of things on time on boy is on its name but blake is on the on the brooklyn nets and it's like oh man. Injuries have been not been good to guy. You know what i mean and is you know is. He's not as explosive as he once was. You know what i mean. And i think there's a lot of things that would would have been better address if you know somebody else's on the table but that's assuming someone else was on the sable and speaking of on the table a potentially on the table andre drummond. They're looking to try. The cavs are looking to trade him. But if they can't they Will buy him out in the leading candidate. He bought out as the los angeles lakers trouble. That would be tough. That would be trouble That would be trouble like you give. I mean that's how they won last year right in today's era of small ball and they did have to go small but they were continually coming in there at times with double bigs on you bro. They were double big. And you like until you're forced them to match down right. Listen if they can get that. I don't know if they can necessarily go as small as they did last season. Just 'cause like if you put a transit the five. He just said defensive defensively. He's just doesn't have it right. I really like how deep this lakers seem including tresors a great guy off the bench for you. Man really really good bro. i really love that pickup. But in terms of defense. I would love to get in the mix man that'll be great to have him with with marcus saul trouble. We'll see we'll see what happens with With anthony davis. But i just. I would be a great pickup. Cannot let me do this real quick. Just go back to blake russian right. Because i i think we both feel like initial reaction was to blake onto the brooklyn nets me defend. Blake for a second okay. Blake blake is on a team right now with jeremy grand kellyanne hayes. Josh jackson deep bay say khuda mboya isaiah. Stuart mesa employees. Dhillon ri- rodney mcgruder gelo. The list goes on and on and people that you'd be like okay. So i say that to say that his inability to really produce is because at least in some part to the fact that he is what you're trying to take away out there logan you put him on a team where he's the fourth or fifth option The matchup becomes much more favorable for him. Do you know what i'm saying. So like i do think in that role where nobody look into. Scout blake griffin on scout report with the nets. Like i think there's some value there for them. That's that would just be my defense. That's fair that's fair. That's fair where he just has to get ten points a game if the ten and five is fine and as the opposition would be like okay. Fine whatever but it's gonna it'll be huge for brooklyn as as a as a theoretically a backup coming in being able to do that like that's big. That's big minutes. That's those are championship. You name me a team. Have a guy come off the bench and the championship series like It's getting production like that out of a backup five. They're gonna take that all the time. No i feel that man. We'll see I don't know man i. I think we'll see what happens. Brooklyn is still. i mean. he doesn't change. Fill about brooklyn at all like they're still my picked a commodity east so doesn't matter You know we'll see what happens. But that has been another edition of the real ones. I'm loading murdoch. That is raja bell. Also man happy international women's day do shirt on right now shut out the happy international women's day What else we got. You can check out the ruins. 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Episode 261: Ask Bruce Anything

Something to Wrestle with Bruce Prichard

1:33:25 hr | 4 months ago

Episode 261: Ask Bruce Anything

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Hey it's conrad thompson and you won't believe it whereas fucking princeton's here what's going on man. How are you who has well. We used to know each other longtime ago. Used to come down. You'd hang out here at the conrad's and you had the brother. Love's sweet man. It was a good time. But then you hear the broncos lead is is is going away yeah it is indeed going away. We're pretty proud of that I guess it'll be probably the summer and we'll have a a fulltime some summer summer. That's the song. I made for mini. You thought like like like the cars. Just mysteriously entered into the atmosphere for which it is that we exist within this existence. Kim's i saw at only will site i got shit my throat man gotta get it out bam move records places not now not in any way addicts. Hey hey this is when you're that next level tired and you just punch drunk right how to rob between your genes. I have made the dow jo- so you're not as crazy. But i read it really the words so that song. That's the thirtieth enough. Oh oh yeah. Definitely words like You know let the ac Down on a muffin shelby. Changing ways cheer leader was real young. Need all the times. I could reminisce but the best things levels sister and cousin started with little kids lack this. Yeah listen man you gotta listen because light at the end of the tunnel maybe you. I don't know what's going on. But i'm really glad that you're here. You know why got the right key baby but the wrong key ho yo. Oh yeah okay so now. You're getting into rap. Bruce alike it listen. We're excited that you're here. We've had to play a couple of remix. of course it's wrestlemainia season but we're back at it and i can't believe it but of all the topics because i ran you through said. Hey man we can do this. Why don't we do that. One awaken to this one and he said now. Let's do the q one because we did ask for questions and we got hundreds of them. But i'm curious. Why did you to do acute. I episode today. Well i mean. I i i hear that you do all the time and i figured you could at least do one this entertaining every now and then. You don't think aren't shows good. I've never heard it. Well go listen. Check it out for us. It's at the orange show on twitter or just look up on its onto. You don't have tom. I'm just saying some folks listening can listen to acumen. I seriously though We are going to try to get back on track. You've been a little busy. So fair to say bruce. That'd be fair. Say a little bit little bit little bit here a little bit. They're gonna get even busier and then just go back to normal. Whatever normal is whatever that means but our plan is to drop a couple wrestlemanias on before. This year's wrestlemainia bruce. I know we don't talk about current stuff but how excited you that there's going to be wrestling in front of a live crowd again. Oh god very much. So i i can hardly wait. You know you you spend you spend your entire life working for that reaction from an audience and that instantaneous reaction you have a focus group every single night and that focus group hasn't been there so yeah i'm excited you know be Be a wonderful thing and we'll be a wonderful thing. We're all excited and even your dogs are excited. I hear him in the background and they sound healthy. Thanks to our friends. A solid gold. But that's a story for another time. Would they can't go yell at him. I mean you're going to yell at them either way so. Let's let the audience here yell at the dogs. It'd be fun. Shadow listened to each mccain's i love you. Did a vince to the dogs is just the habit now you this year like vantage even know rents show now. We did your vince impression to yale. Now that's that's doggy dog. Oh okay see. I thought this puppy dog. He's a good guy. Dan combine. Let me pet you Do you think. Vince dougie talks. You've seen it. He's over there revenue all that shit. The fuck man. He speaks dog. he's fucking dog grandson. Speak dog you got speak our language. You can't expect them learn fucking for them to speak human. I love it. I mean dodger does. But hey i'm rick oh boy. I'm recording this. So we can clip it out but we said dog. I want to mention It's come out just this morning as you. And our recording. Great friend of the show road dog had a bit of a health scare. His wife is asking for some Thoughts and prayers. We probably wouldn't put their family at the top of our list this weekend. Doing not absolutely much loved road dog. I'm feeling for you man and I'm going to give them a call soon as we hang up. Here let's Let's jump into it. Bruce in the mood do acuna. Gets you a couple of wrestlemainia episodes. If you're curious or definitely going to do wrestlemania twelve. Because that is a show that is near. And dear to bruce and it's on the docket interested twenty two as well acts me some questions. I'll tell you some lines. Excellent also is it is it is now. I didn't know that that was okay. I mean i believe you. What i do man i learn you. I learned you every day. man. I've been teaching you and shit you hang around the learning tree you get learned. Hey do want to mention before we get going. I know you're ready for. And i keep teasing it but it came out a couple of days ago as we're recording here. The cane is joining the is rightful place in the In the hall of fame. And you and i have talked a lot about cain just yesterday on the main feed we did a remix of the cane debut all these years later. That's still one of your very favorite storylines and characters in the history of wrestling. So i'm sure you're thrill for your free. England jacobs getting in the hall of fame. Oh my son. Cain oh he's great house gonna say i missed a lot like you. Yes extremely extremely happy for him. And i'm very proud. Because that's one of those creations and talents and characters in his lasted several several Manifesto got just everything. He's he's great. Alumna death glenn jacobs humane in the character and characters in which he is portrayed even love katie beck. Much word caveat. Nancy you know these this these times you gotta remember. Give up okay. Let's up into a. Dvd junkie says a ribbing war. Who does bruce think would win. Owen hart or mr fuji and why owen would win. Because he's more fun and more creative fuji could be a little brutal at times and betty. Betty zuhdi. Cystic own respond. Is it true. That fuji once fed a guys on dog. That's you know. I've heard that legend. I don't know anybody that can actually confirm it. But you know that. I really think that that may be just old wives tales. That grew that people. You know if you've grown. I was there i eight foot told me. It will only was a chicken wing. It look just like a chicken wing tastes like chicken wing. Saying i know you just yelled at your dogs. What else feld you dodger. Fed you dodger. Eat their ass. yeah they'd be dead. I mean you'd show him while you were time karate. Black belt hall of famer now man. Don't mess with dogs are you okay. Seawall say that. So don't mess with dogs. Have you seen this really fucked up thing on On one of those streaming services Don't fuck with cats. Oh my god. I came out a year or two ago and it is unbelievable dude. I couldn't i got into about four minutes into it and i was done. Your oh to bertel yea. I can't do this shit. You don't fuck with old people women in dogs or animals general. Jeff wants to know had yokozuna lost. The weight needed to continue working with. Wb what would have been the plans for him. I think yoga could have had a just a long fucking career being that monster heal up and down and being someone that you could plug in any time that you needed somebody to gobble someone up. Now we wouldn't longed gobble somebody up in by eight put more weight so we've just had guzzled. How's that if he did gobble them he'd probably dip as i m right dan. Barilla's says bruce won't you want said quote. Jr's he'll in real life on a previous something to wrestle can expand on that Jr's he'll in real life. Apparently that's something you said. I think you were just busting balls. Well he'll real-life. Oh i know you are when you live for the heat. And even get your. He'll real life. I am folks. Conrad is a heel in real life. Would you like for me to go on and lists numerous ways in which he is a heel. You can list our list a few then. I'll come out of a too far. Your mean say. I play a baby face on the show you do. Yeah but i mean. Give me an example. I don't think i can thank you very much. Lindsay says why is brock listener. Just vader of the new millennium agree with that. We've heard that comparison. God now i actually. I would disagree so much to that. I think that You know vader a beta was a monster of the day. Yep and vader was a pretty damn good character but you know. Brock was machine brought rockets some Who's trained in a physical specimen that unlike anything that i think i've ever seen lindsay has another follow up. I'm double down the lindsay questions. Because you know we've got like twelve female listeners. So let's do some of those downlands come on. How would you rate vincit commentating. And who would you say. His favorite commentary partner. And why was it jerry. Lawler god not say was just insure was was the best with vents and I look. Vince was terrible. Thence events never called shadow that from yokosuka barbara dow the benches cliches would take you on a ride however a bo shen wise. I think it would be hard pressed to find anybody that could match the emotional roller coaster. The vince would take you on. Sometimes it was hyped up a little bit over the top but it was i this day i i still do know what anytime or just just there because it was there were there. Were a lot of instances back in the day over. I hope sometimes. I just want to imagine just lot me. Tell me. this is the case as you're seated next events these days in guerrilla. You both got the headsets on your both watching the monitor that you just break out into one doing. Oh no he didn't steal got got that shit out trying to watch the match. I did that probably got down. That's good shit. Only they could do that and i don't. I don't think that vince ever fassi himself. A great play by necessity. Do you think just in terms of he knows what we're trying to sell better than anyone so wanna have him do it in the beginning without a doubt it was out of necessity because his dad's play by play man just walked off the job. One day wow so. Yeah that that was. That was why vince had to do that. Job never having done it before. And then later on it was he was the guy he was the face that had done it for so long but he continued to do it when i came in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven the probably the very first or second month that i was there there was always a search for that next play by play guy you know even then in eighty seven it was like he didn't wanna do it he he wanted to find the right guy to come in and do play by play a still another one here. When wrap things up with lindsay she says who do you think was the last great territory guy. This is become a talking point of the last week. Or so bruce because when we asked jim ross that he thought it was maybe stone cold some other people online said maybe it was more the undertaker. I've always thought it's probably gotta be and i could be wrong on this ric flair because ric flair like the last traveling. Nwa champion what would your answer be the last great territory guy. I think it would have to be flare okay. And here's why you know for for steve. Steve worked memphis on that. Dallas thing with jerry jarrett and then steve work wcw and wwe for taker pretty much. The same thing take a work. Dallas take work. Tennessee take work. Wcw and then came here so they didn't go out and work the donald territories The charlottesville florida's mid south's and air everywhere else in between so as far as territory guys. Flair was in a different territory. Different town every night have nine is champion. Still one from Through landry says what do you think is hulk. Hogan's best match well in the. There's there's two of them really well three and it's it's a three way. Tie one wrestlemainia. Three with andrei. Probably the most famous match will go down as most historic matching wrestling history. bar none to resumes six with ultimate warrior in which thought hall category performance got the most out of warrior than anybody could get and his last. Great match was rock on toronto wrestlemainia. That was the in what i mean. By that is it was the epitome of hulk in hulkamania and what that character was and just how good he was at it. Pasta mania brother says spruce having a good memories of trung guard rod trodden opteron yard here in the boston garden. Along with lord alfred hayes. Art how you doing. Good to see rod tron guard was a radio guy add minneapolis. I believe and had that. That trump guard. Hey how you doing bruce. Good to see good to see you. We're going to have a cocktail later on tonight. Maybe get some of that vodka. You're gonna have a beer. I know you like your beer. I like beer too. A rod was had a face for radio he. His face looked like leather just wrinkled leather but had a fucking great voice man. He had a booming radio voice and was a character on top of it. I thought that rodr on garner was a really good play by play guy. He was a horrible on camera. Guy he would come on camera. Who's shit. holy cow man. Don't they'll show that dude again. I think he's wanted for murder in about eight states But a wonderful wonderful guy. And i had the pleasure working with rod for about two years. He came in and he did a lot of our cable. Things like the new england sports network the boston prison stuff. The la stuff the Square garden network and rob would work with alfred hayes. He had superstar. Billy graham but after a while i think that rod just didn't want to travel anymore and it was again. We were looking for someone that also didn't scare people camera but great guy. I mean a fun fun fun. Good posture manny brother. Says bruce having a good todd pettingill stories did get to see him when he came back for the inex- t in your house. Todd pettingill think was okay. Another radio guy exist must be a radio guy. Pasta makia ohio it's pettingill. I thought was the most natural to slide into the role that he did. As far as interviewer and host todd was a great host very very talented and he was a natural. Todd did need a lot of producing todd. Knew what to do. Knew how to do it and felt very natural doing it so i thought that he was great. Wonderful wonderful guy hard. Working great work ethic he would do radio show in the morning and then come to our stuff. Never never bitch and complain. Never a problem. One and Just got to the point where he was. He was too busy and had other opportunities. But you go back and you look at one of the slamming awards where todd pettingill came out and sang and did a deal like billy crystal had done at the oscars and todd came out. Did that for us. And it was absolutely fabulous. I don't remember which one it was. But just go back and look at top pettingill. Slamming open highly entertaining. I think it was ninety. S ninety seven in chicago. I could be wrong We had a bunch of questions about vince. And i think this one might be laugh. the most. How do you think vince would do on the show. The price is right philip. It's been a long time since been like events. I guess what a fucking thing of costs per gallon of milk like this is not grocery shop. He doesn't know everything's a dollar. God damn i dunno or it's like one hundred dollars. Yes how did you get that. Got dab you understand pal and also his round up right right. What's the smallest. I had the fuck am i do. I don't know it just tickles me. The idea of events on the price is right fortunate gamma quadrant events. I like to buy all the vowels. Give all to me x. Y. and z. Kurt angle told the story once on the plane ride from hell Vince wanted to test him. He wanted to wrestle. Kurt angle so he keeps trying to take down kurt. Whether it's you know from behind your whatever just whatever he wanted to wrestle curt well supposedly. They were annoying the pilot and the pilot. Sin a stewardess back to say. Hey the pilot says if you don't return your season stop wrestling in the al. He's going to land the plane and advance. Who had a little bit of wine that day. Sad fought to pile on obama. Goddamn the idea that he's on prices right. Like how much for a gallon of milk eighty dollars. I don't fucking now. Well you know. I'm trying to because i was on the flight the curtain. I think people get confused with the plane ride from hell. I don't get that one the same flight. Okay either way though. It's funny to imagine fence on a game. Show trying to guess what a block of cheese costs. I don't know it just tickles me. All or it's it's this is a hoover vacuum cleaner. Write gets up our focus. I've got a made. Hell do we need this for phone a friend. The answer. Timber says joe rogan's podcast. The undertaker confirmed he thought he was going to be egged. Man he also said. Vince had the gimmick for some time. Waiting for the right guy. I don't think timber was watching the same episode but Did you see rogin and the undertaker's conversation. Would you think of his conversation about eg man i did. I know marks paranoia about that. Which was kind of funny which was one of the reasons that we just gotta let him think that for a while. But i've heard this this theory events always had this undertaker gimmick and maybe did when you look at the character and how it came and that was. What am i going to do with this guy. And i was being very selfish and my end looking for someone to manage and really wanting to manage mean market. The dime events came up with character. Name the undertaker vince. You know the look. And all that shit other than i wanted him all black So definitely a collaborative effort. And i heard you. Black bart talk about how you are supposed. Ridge undertaker dash it down. Make more money working sport story on wednesday night. I don't think that happened. Yeah it's hard to imagine that that being a thing. Charlie thrower has a good question. They says mr pitcher. Did you get to work with judah. Smith ceus said that wrong aka ricky bandera during your run and tna. Don't you think he ever got a shot and wwe. It feels like vince mcmahon would've loved him. I didn't. I did not work with ricky in tna to ricky in puerto rico and mexico Even japan i will. I believe with victor king as Rookie was a guy that victor got booked all over the world and great great guy. We brought ricky in for a couple of tryouts and just didn't really you know different style. Let's put it that way a completely different style and a different philosophy and how they would go about the business but you know you look at the stuff that he's done now go hey good for him. You wanna laugh at one verse now. I don't wanna laugh. Damn dammit has had time to work on his book since he went back to work for us. The funny you're supposed to talk about. curse. I was talking about the book last night. really i. if you ever take a vacation you'll start working on some of it. No you don't what. I ever take a vacation which i booked last night what i did i did. I just said fuck it in. I booked a airline tickets last night. Just said fuck it. We're going. May i seventh for yan. I knew that. If i bumped tickets that i with the kids and everybody in everything that i would force me to do and then after i did it. A summation You know we got like three people on vacation that friday as it. Hey will bummer for one. Yama the fuckers. I love that Advanced not gone with brad as the next big face of the company during the nineties. Who else do you think would have slid into that role. You know there was discussion about tito wonder you know. Had we had our backs against the ball whether or not we would have just said. Let's go shawn to sean creep. You know john was creeping up there and Maybe we had gone. We might have gone with sean at that time. We not going with brett one of my favorite brother. Love's segments was with jimmy snuka and the discussion of his. I love you. Hands-on for honky blasted them with a guitar. Mr pritchard can you share anything about this particular segment lovely brighter. Jimmy's not a man of many words and so to try. And get your jimmy. Didn't read or write and try to get jimmy to do promos and things like that could could be somewhat difficult and just had to do something very simple. Form- i mean the i love you brought up and that was jimmy. That was real so just going out there. Some words in his mouth and Stan here jimmy. Gay guitars coming from over there. Just here look good and it was. It was good speaking of hockey. Top man have you seen the The picture that he posted in the last week or so on social media holy. So i saw the picture kept staring at it because look at going another man. I know this guy. Yeah and for me. Going back to rock and roll away in paris right. That's where i went on now. God damn and then when honky tonk man is a son of a bitch then all the even more the rock and roll wayne farris came out but i think he looks pretty good like that. It's an interesting look. It looks like kenny rogers album. What's that we look at the grizzly adams. I could go. That looks kind of like larry thompson. He's got longer hair than larry thompson. Bathing too far away. I know right Here's a follow up from a previous episode. Charlie wants to know bruce. Did you ever learn about baby billy. Of course we're talking about the rights as gemstones. Do you remember that character. Shortage shuffled back. Step love it so great. What he wasn't really love it when you're on the plane and everybody's asleep and you've got quiet time. Have you watched wa. Texting takes me at one of the morning. Like fat boy talk to me. I'm bored of way. Lights are dim talking to me. Just turkey sandwich. They have attorney marie l. Chat me up. Are you watching anything. You like these days in your free in your twelve minutes of right down awake. We got a few minutes or something. I tell you you know what you know what there was something on. God damn it. I can't even. I can't even tell you how i got it. But it was some guy doing thing on your buddy The guy out in california the makes up things and writes down and talks about punches runs. Great now dan soder. He was in new york now. No no neither neither one of them just make up shit and they make up stuff and make us laugh and they're entertaining and good good human beings. Are you talking about wrestling. Yeah and so this this But this guy rips on Some some Holier than thou Person it was hilarious. It was good. It was about two minute little piece about. Just you're talking about chernoff. Josh chernoff did a whole thing ripping on a tweet. That meltzer sent out talking about. Yeah i like josh runoff. But i wish you would have done that. Pinder jay says was true was golden is hurt during the back lot. Raw at wrestlemania twelve My i love event and many years was the following month. That in your house. Good friends better enemies. And he was supposed to wrestle the undertaker. I'm sure he was. There was some real physicality in that he had to come out of that. With some bumps and bruises and scrapes shit. We went to the media went to the hospital. After everything was checked. Piper's risks was broken. Told us was Yeah it was great and then we went to that famous. Jewish deli in hollywood Berries or something. I don't know but everybody in hollywood will probably correct me. Both my friends there will say. Now you dumb ass but it was it was it was great could dustin piper me and vents and. We're sitting there eating whatever. Yeah and lots of ball soup kevin. Darren says whether any stars who debuted when you weren't with the wbf who didn't have vignettes that you would have liked to created vignettes four for better worst bruce. You've sort of become known amongst wrestling fans online as the vignette guy because you did the mr perfect ones and the ones etc etc. Was there a character that popped up or you weren't around the thought man. I could've did something cool with that. Food probably Would be one Back you know back in the day in. I don't know. I didn't you know i don't know it was. It was fringe washed watching the time not really studying. Hi ken brzezinski says if the boss will still around the day who are some of the guys he would've liked and maybe not liked I think that the boss would have talking about andrei here a I don't know. I don't know that andrea would've liked too much about you. Know the the the the business or the boys today from were barca no monster monster friday dad but vodka in. It's better. He wouldn't have liked bray wyatt or the faint you throw fire. You're bad man. Maybe no i think he actually. You probably would've liked brave because of his lineage. I stuck my sum up your grandfather. But he would like that he would. He would reign yordan right. I stuck my show up your garage. Kabwe shy fart on him from the rest of them. I think will We don't we don't go out and party like they used to man i just you know nobody does. I would have liked ziglar ziggler out to have a good time human-like ziegler maybe a little bit flare flare. Still around all these years later he'd have fun with that. Yeah can you imagine the trouble that would have been that. That's a sitcom right there. If under still around the day drinking with flair at an airport bar pre covid that writes itself Luke from eastern iowa says any professor. Tohru tanaka stories i saw him in three ninjas and the running man he always seemed pretty intimidating georgia tanaka very first time that i ever announced it was fourteen years old and sam houston coliseum very first match involved towards tanaka so both participants in the match would make their way walk down to the ring they get in the ring ms ring now starwood get in the ring and i would would welcome the audience and you ask them to stand for the play tomorrow national anthem and i get in the ring and of course this my first time fourteen years old and they're the recording everything and i asked her once good evening. Welcome to sam houston coliseum. A we get things under way if you will please stand for the plane of art natural anthem. Gosh so isn't national anthems plane. I realized that. I said natural anthem and of course heard that from everybody until the end of time. But then i get to announce toro tanaka who i watched since i was a very small kid and said in the blue corner wayne in a two hundred and sixty five pounds from jaka homa japan. Toru tanaka it's not yucca home. it's yokohama. Yeah and i kind of fucked up. So was the first person. Ira got to introduce his ring now. Answer and i completely fucked up his introduction but he was a very very very nice man very gentle. Really nice sweetheart guy. I got a quick question. What if you could save over seven thousand dollars a year. Seven thousand dollars a year. Jonathan monroe connecticut. Just did that at save with conrad dot com and enough to survive star review. Had this saying a really appreciate. Jimmy's communication throughout the process. He always followed up emails with a text. My wife and i making sure we didn't miss anything. We twenty seven years left on our mortgage. Jimmy help us knocked two years off and we still save six hundred dollars a month. Big thank you to everyone at first family mortgage the paying their house off two years faster how much that is enough to the penny. What your mortgages multiply that by twenty four and that's how much they say just by putting those two years off more importantly six hundred bucks a month are you kidding. Wow what you do this. You can get out of debt faster and do it with cheaper. Monthly payments are no. It sounds too good to be true but let me run the numbers for you. It's no cost no obligation. We're routinely helping wrestling fans around the country just like you save tens of thousands of dollars. How much can you save. Find out right now for free at saved with conrad dot com analyst number six five zero four equal housing lender. John save more than seven grand a year. What are you waiting for. Even skip your next two house payments at save with conrad dot com Josh says what character is closer to the real personality of vince. Mcmahon the mr mcmahon character or vincent man the commentator and host. Oh god mr mcmahon carreno miss s. How character hank go vince. This guy did this. Go do what you would do it right to self josh. Rada says. I'd love to know what went into deciding to do away with the traditional survivor. Series style matches that happened in nineteen ninety-two hated it. in ninety two. I wasn't there whether yeah you had just come back. Come back but the deal. Is you know you moved away. From teams of five. Strive to survive. There's this elimination thing and blah blah blah and. You just started to do away with that process slowly but surely the feeling was was that attractions. What are what cell and personal issues and to get back to the championship matches and they haven't feature match. The feeling was by marketing and promotions. And vince and everybody. That union unanimously. With the exception of patent myself. They felt we needed more than just this concept and so we started doing matches i would. I would say until you know until the very end. Pat like the concept matches as did i. Here's an interesting one that i don't guess there's a wrong answer but you're probably going to get criticized either way mcclay says who do you think was a bigger star for kids. In general hulk hogan are john. Cena big are better. I mean the question is bigger. I think that it Both both own their. I think that that's that's a tossup because you know completely different eras it wasn't like okay hogan finishes up. His run here comes sina. It was completely different generations that are never even in many ways even been exposed to hold cogan by the time john cena came along johnson was only thing but a whole cogan was the first and man. Hulk was a maniac. The that that kid audience loved them. Sina never broke that audience. Kids loved him. Hustle loyalty respect and that was that was his mantra prayer. Say ride train folks. It's they were different in a different times. But they own their eras. Let's talk a little bit about sting for a moment. This is a great question. We've probably talked about this before. But it's worth revisiting. Union jack says was the wbf ever close to signing staying away from wcw and if so. When was that happening. Well we had. We had talks in eighty eight. We had talks at different times about a steve. Would you be interested in coming over that. Just never they never got further than talks and they never really materialized beyond that. It's the same time we had warrior. And i believe that. Vince looked at it as well. I've got lawyer. What do i need another warrior for And i think that stain kind of looked at it like that when warriors do in our gimmick up there. I'll do it down here and there was a comfort was a comfort comfort with wcw instinct. Mike whitaker says you invents walk into a bar. What's everyone drinking. Depends on what what diners back in the day. I'm drinking Cores lightning's drinking doers. These days you're drinking wine. Are you drinking. Turned into a wino- yeah little pinot noir. Human the chief shit this fun from james e boy says what's your favorite commercial starring a wwe superstar hands down the miller lite commercial the super bowl with the ukraine everybody and john madden and they take the mask off. Yeah that was. That was my favorite about tattoos. Joe ziya says what has been stink of tattoos as he forum or against him. You re remember there. Ever being an instance where a superstar getting tattoos deterred their push. Yeah undertaker man. I told him from day. They got that first. Big tech to mark. Stop going to ruin your career and now is not limit yourself very bad for your career. Do get your push. His stopped right. Now i'm gonna stop pushing you know. Part of that is one hundred percent true. They advised that. I don't ever gonna do. I don't know there have been some that. It was probably gone. What the hell the hell do. Why did you do that. But especially now in the two thousands where tattoos. Don't have the same stigma that they had in the seventies and eighties different. Yeah this one from like okay like the tattoos you have. I don't have it now. It's me nobody's listening. Okay okay your tattoos right you know younger. So we're not only a few people have seen that speaking of me. Joseph wants to know what is. Hey it's conrad's most annoying habit saying. Hey it's conrad come or you give them one. I'm sure there's something what the most annoying. Yeah what's most annoying habit chap me up but that's cute. Yeah well especially since. I knew that you guys Started having fun with it. So i've turned it into a thing now whenever you put me on speaker. Jeremy turned hogan he'll what a warrior hogan rematch at recipe was fucking it is. There's no matter what the goddamn fucking everything can be crumbling all around you and this mother fucker will just sit. There could be worse. Hey you won't watch this movie that that eternal happiness bullshit. It does annoy you. It does bombing hail look around. We're dying there okay. Cool what do you for lunch to. She up man. We can't get the turkey in january right now because arcane game and sold out the tornado picked them up and supplement. But i mean we can look out some shit. My fly here. Well let's see what we got a grownup and and let me give you this other little insight. Oh here we go go you know how when you use those little food. Services in grab hubs Shuttle world. Well this motherfucker like he. He goes direct. Like he does the grub thing but like restaurants column go. Hey mister thompson sorry. We're closed but we saw your order. Come through your requests. So what would you like. Oh yeah we're out. We're out of ribs but on the side. I'll put them in. The bag did happen once. I think somebody called and said they were more than once. And then i got it done but again. Here's the thing if you're catering for the office all the time that they start to get used to your name and you're good to go. How privileges may all rich people. Okay there we go. Grant cameron says a ferry bischoff. Hypothetically win the monday night war. What would the title of vincent podcasts with conrad. Be hey pal like that. Pals ago when michael wants is dense mcmahon and conrad thomson. Hey is conrad. Hey pal. Michael reveal says why did it take so long for the women to get a royal rumble. Match was the lack of the roster numbers back in the day. Yeah you probably didn't have thirty women on the roster until the last few years right shane. Guys yeah. Mike wants to know. What's the madness. Bruce has ever been at conrad. I'm prepared to clip all this out. List personally professionally of in the conrad radisson out on the conra- addison driving to the conrad hilton Not picking me up at the airport while placing pickles in my room. Radison that was a good one you'd have to admit that was the only real by the hang on. Hang on wait a minute. Wait a minute wait a minute wearing. I'm flying in the connor. Addison and it was championship game. Right was taking place at night. Or anytime i i'll mama okay and mcclain's getting in late stellato homes get and okay great. But it wasn't that late. It was like ten thirty. So i asked us. Yeah man. i'm not feeling real good. Everything is you know. Maybe just uber taxi. That's not how it happened or this is how it happened but it is not is now. I said you were sick. I was sick and it kept getting delayed. And you said. I'll just get a rod and i said you offered and i'd say you said you uber taxi us. Yeah can newburgh taxes. Just talkin easy. Well here's the thing though. I assume that. I'm in a god damned falling city major metropolis in the united states of america and arriving ten thirty at night in huntsville alabama apparently is after fucking hours it this because there wasn't the to to taxi services yep in town. We're closed sir. The uber in huntsville is closed over. What at the time was not allowed to pick up at the airport. That's true too. We didn't know that we found out that night. Not one person would come pick me up. We'll man no taxis dachsie What am i supposed to do. So i'm going to go rent a car. There's one car one car sure. Let it the one desk clean in their six people in line and the guy that gets car walking away and i said hey man look. I've been trying to get a taxi driver. Get an uber I don't know what to do. And he says where you're going so pull up comrades little map there i said here is conrad said yes. Oh god well. Because i can also you can see it from the airport stop. Basically i pointed. Stop it so. I won't up there on the on top of that giant mountain at there. Yeah lights yeah no no. It's not a country club. It's it's a house just as congress goes carlson. It's comfortable right basically so i had to find a stranger. I got a car with a stranger not bags. Stir and putting conrad's address and we made our way to counter radisson. And then when i got there. There're pickles all over everything. I'm being quiet. i can me tremendous church mouse. Just quiet as i can be. And i get up in. There's booking pickles everywhere. There's pickles on my pillow their pickles in the bathroom. There's pickle in the toilet. There are pickles on the nightstand. Their pickles looking everywhere in my god. Damn elevator balloon up pickles everywhere. Mr sick too sick to come pick me up at the fucking tampa is down at the bottom of the stairs on the phone. He's on the executive level. The owner sweep level. I'm up stairs. Love sweet and i hear him laughing so he's not too sick to get out of fucking ben fact that i had to ride with a gun. Amsterdam impede the stranger half of his rental car so to get that ride. So hey man. I forgot that bart. Yeah it was like hey man. I'll pay half half let rental car for day. If you'll just give me a ryan do conrad literally to the penny geoghan like one of those change makers Hey man y'all be another nickel three six cents here here. Here's his but keep it. Yeah so that's the maddest that's up there. Maybe there's some and what the fuck mad about martin ramirez says. The children have any chocolate cake with zeus during his time with the company. Don't understand the question that must be one y'all's little left-handed cigarettes says what people your age used to call them. That is either marijuana pills as bill. Watts called it a dube adjoining A blunt ah bong. We'd yes mary jane. yeah. I don't think i don't remember if we did or not. 'cause he traveled separately. And yeah i yeah. I don't think we did ross. Wants to know. What is bruce saying. When he doesn't impression of pack it sounds like he sang at a pace or something. That's a cases. I babysit jase. But what are that. Can you spell that by day's like if you had a text that to me. What would you write your phone mckay said. Jj case okay. That's probably a boost to my goodness. Mick wants to any tony timmel story so feel like he gets overlooked because of how much we all love howard finkel but he was a mainstay during the attitude era. You know maybe ever have a chance to have john bradshaw layfield jask Asca bradshaw about tony. Joel hey lives to give channel ship. Yes he does. Have if fred flintstone were to be a human is channeled it would be timmel. You mean example. I just they just look alike. And they're loud in there in canada On very little self awareness chihuahuas awesome. How many timmel star was it was one of joey. Morella buddies and and from philadelphia in that kind of crew with with gorilla and worked his way up through the company and busted his ass. Man wanted. Jim was one of those guys that we need. Something done tim o. Would get it done hard working guy. Just a good dude. Joe dangerously says. What was mr perfect best match. You know There were a lot of them. But i would go back in our say the summer slam with on ninety one with Brett yup i sorta like one of the greatest matches of ever remember seeing agree. Carl hey says what is your favorite breakfast meal to make it home. Are you a burrito type. Okay if i'm making it. It's going to be eggs turkey and cheese all scrambled up very well done if my wife is making it. Are you familiar with craps like the bell. Yes okay. We'll like she makes she liked. Makes elaborate shit yeah. I know that she'll she'll make crunch wraps and shit and they'll be you know perfectly folded over and everything and she'll have like salsa and sour cream and all that out there and yeah now ever the other day. My daughter made me a bacon a little bit of cheese in egg. Sandwich was tremendous. Kevin durant says you previously mentioned that you could have gone farther with papa. Go quote if he were there. Can you elaborate. Did you have any cool ideas own. God you know it was. I would laugh and do the buddhist shit anybody gilligan's island fan when the Tribal chief and the boudou guy came on the island and made dolls out of all. The seven castaways. I wanted to do shit like that. I wanted i wasn't there. I'm just. I was just laughing. Go i wanted them to do like voodoo doll of whoever he was working with. And have the guy take bulbs and shit here hate ave go ever touching him and stuff like that Wanted to do the the stick pin in the blue and then have warrior start puking and shit. But i wanna see all that. Yeah you know what i mean and Sorry about that folks. I was my hand on the microphone. Because i'd move around and talk with my hands lottie the you can't see me commands ads. Hair done this morning but Stuff like that. Just really hokey all shit on now. I love that. Well you just laid out with tremendous Kevin duran says was never considered to have bruce as one events is screen stooges during the attitude era. Now what do you think i. Don't you know pat. Jerry and sarge were like official types. I wasn't so i think that for them in that role. Not on camera roll. They fit that beautifully hug. Plex twenty says. Have you been able to dig through your houston wrestling stuff lately. Of course that became a topic online. Because i don't know several weeks back now It looked like there was a paul bosch estate sale and there was some wrestling stuff that was listed there and now some of it has started a pop up on ebay but most of us who listen to this show thought you got all that have you had you know. I got his personal His personal office in everything in it. I don't know why that stuff was left out looking back going. Wait a minute. Shouldn't that have been part of of that. Look is what it is and I'm glad i was able to help the family. And i'm glad i got stuff that i got. I have liked to have had some stuff that i've seen online absolutely but i got. Yeah i've gone through it. There's some some really really cool shit in there They may wants a pair of wool. I have from nineteen. It's gotta be nineteen thirty a wool long island new york lifeguard two pairs like once the looks like a singlet the lifeguard logo on it and then the other one is just a pair of shorts with lifeguard lawn because paul was the chief lifeguard on long island in new york. And i've got. I've got both of his swim trunks. All of his swim trophies and stuff like that which is kinda cool man that a wall made out of wool. Wow slight swim. Stuff was wearing a sweater all over your body right to go under the water. Hard to imagine how hard to imagine. That's the thing. Yeah and and it's in his in freak damn good condition. I mean as far as that kinda shit goes this interesting stuff like that in history things and in his war stuff Have him his hand written battle plans in in the battle of her forest. Interesting shit like that. There's some pretty cool stuff that for the relationship. I had with paul growing up as a kid. That means something to me. I would like to have the other shit that apparently was left out. But hey that's life anamar says does bruce ever get to Or has he ever gotten to head to foxwoods or mohegan sun. if so any fun stories. Those are casinos in connecticut. By the way. Bruce you've lived up there on and off for a long long time. You ever hit those casinos and have some fun stories. I am with you and bischoff when in two thousand and nineteen. We did our our show up there and that was an awful lot of fun but i other than work. No never did the the guy that was first of all. He was a athletic commission in the state of new york. randy gordon. He was also with the magazine inside wrestling in. The wrestler may have been an editor or something like that but he was the first entertainment and sports sports and entertainment director of a believe mohegan sun back in the day. Here's one. I don't think we've ever talked about it. Adam leeson says what's bruce's favorite wrestling match of all time. Well just for history. Say probably jack brisco and harley race lead twentieth nineteen seventy-three sam houston coliseum. Check brisco defeated harley race in the third fall that liu says press to win the nwa world heavyweight championship. What about a wwe era. One not not current stuff. But let's say you're i ruin one. That really sticks out to him. I was the one game for different reasons. I you know. I look back and i think that that Warrior hogan match was so significant at the time. Yeah that was pretty cool. And i remember you know that was one of the first matches in first times that i've ever been a part of hey laying out a match ahead of time when when those guys would get together and and just start talking about this match and i thought that was really cool so for me again for different reasons. I don't know that it was a classic that you're gonna go. Oh my god. This is raise match of all time at the time for the story in the significance of it. Huge match. Weird question here. Dismal abysmal wants to know who i think was a bigger hothead randy savage seem pong see. I've never got the hot end. Sian peng either. I never saw that or heard of it. I you know i. I never experienced that. So the nod would have to go to randy savage just based on that but again depending upon who you were and how you dealt with randy you got very degrees of it. You probably got the worst of it at times. Did you not did because we were friends andy fell. He can vent. You wouldn't be as bad as many defense. So i would encourage him vent to me first before invented this right i think. Jr thing was Converse don't confront when it comes to. Vince is that good advice. Yes very wrestle. Maniac says whose idea was it to bring greg gone as a road agent in. Oh six. And his. Bruce thing by six the ganja still held resentment towards vance for the handling of hogan leaving the awa and any three. I can't speak for what. The gun is fell. greg came in and help on the creative team and that was a stephanie call. Steffi new greg and looked at him as a wrestling voice and a wrestling had to be involved in the creative process. It just wasn't in greg's head. I think greg was all just about the wrestling. Not about the story and As a has a trib tremendous head for the business. But i don't know a lot of it hasn't passed in by in some ways. Jack says how did bam bam bigelow end up in the movie. Major payne did the movie studio consult with the wwe and ask you guys to send someone or did he reach out to them directly or do you recall i the way i remember. It was that this opportunity they were looking for. You know big nasty looking guy and we offered up bam bam. That's the way. I remember it and it could have been different but i remember Coblets guys name Wayans others damon and marlin the to. You're thinking of and who's who's the like the producer. One damon is the one who was hit was the star of that movie that his brother was like the kind of the brains. You're thinking about keenan. I'm thinking matt keenan. So i believe it was keenan who reached out and Just one of those creative types that you could sit to talk to forever as far as a bright bright. Bright guy and my recollection. That's out happen Christopher wheeler says what's the one town back when you were making towns across the country that you hated going to and why boston well 'cause becau because it was just so difficult to get around okay. Boston is just constantly under construction. I say it was so hard to get around rest. Papaya is going to ask a question that you're going to be annoyed with but i want to add some context at the end aces bruce. You're aware that awa. The new japan currently have a working agreement. Please explain why the wwe will never be part of a working co op. Here's the thing you guys had that going with. W you hadn't gone. Smokey mountain you had to go with the nwa. I i don't think that's fair to say that you never will have before. What's your stance on that bruce. It's been done before right. You guys have done that. We've done it plenty of time. Plenty of companies. Yeah so that's a little. Ill informed. that's kind of like one of those things that you probably read in a dirty from california. Ian says what was the last time. Vince mcmahon had a vacation had a what vacation vacated. What a vacation i. I couldn't even begin to guess. I mean he. His vacation at this point is probably going to the shows right well. That's his relaxation. Yes his follow up. What's bruce's favorite place to go on vacation. A beach also be truth. No one around private beach where they just bring you drinks in the water and feed you and no one talks to you know phones. no nothing. here's the most weird question last today. Roy says bruce g shave your armpits. Currently no but always did. Yeah right why did you. I'll god much cleaner much nicer when it gets to the summer. I'll say i got the winter for all now. The back tommy. In pits will go wait. You shave your stomach to will be living guest shave your gas shave tummy. Health it slim view gotta hands vessels make you loot slap and fast the shave and i'm looking to dream more but i did it. I still look sloppy and fat. But i gotta fucking smooth belly. Chris wants to has bruce. Saint cobra cast season three. Yes a lot of people online at some of the best quote unquote wrestling. Storytelling around. what did you think of cover. I thought it was excellent. Absolutely excellent. And i don't want dan. Is vince big soft teddy bear around his grandkids. Yes laxman grandfather. What was the contingency. If any you've had for the ninety four royal rumble if brats feet did hit i well. We had it covered camera wise. If they didn't they would have The released could've been controversy. we just would had. We wouldn't have shown the shots But from our vantage point had a lot of faith in breath brand nailed it. That was all umbrella. Kevin wants to know. Do you think of brother love. Character could work in today's environment. Normally i would say no but maybe you never know. I think that it would be have to be tweaked considerably but there could be room for that type of character interesting question. Why did summerslam choose to be on monday. Just young yet. We add saturday night. Pay per views to thursday wednesday nights tuesday night. Then we just lawn sunday night as pay per view. Night was that based on. Some sort of study was based on a request from the The cable providers. Or were you guys just doing old school a in be testing and saw. That's where it performed best in the act like they're testing shit. No like maybe. The building was available on monday night. I got you garden. The garden ran on monday night. That towel ran on monday night. It it there wasn't a whole lot of rhyme or reason or let's get this study didn't do that back then. Lee says why did it take so long. Have a british world champion of course. He's talking about drew mcintyre. I'm sure the only other person who may be had a sniff at it before was the british bulldog right. Well i always. That's just funny to me Drew scottish. I guess united kingdom. He's not british. But i well. Here's the follow up. I guess he's really asking. Will the u k ever host one of the big four pay per views again. I know you weren't there for summer. Slam ninety two. And i know the story summerslam ninety two did not do well on paper view and a lot of people think that's because of the tape delay. Is that really the primary reason that we we didn't see more international pay per views like there wasn't a wrestlemainia in london so to speak Expense you gotta get everybody over there right quite expensive. You've got travel. You've got equipment. You have technology differences and they the that expense when you look at no time change and everything else. If live is a big selling point for pay per view yes it is and if you're doing something at noon on sunday that you used to get in at six or seven in the evening there's going to be less by just in general and the cost is definitely just a lot higher keith. Wants to know. What's your favorite vignette. You ever help reduce I had so much fun. Doing the dusty vignettes in the mr perfect vignettes They got off on Big boss in yet. So jesus christ we went into the danbury prison which was full of prisoners and they took the prisoners from one cellblock and moved them like the entire cellblock and move them out so that we could shoot in there but they could still see us from where they were and it was It was interesting it was interesting and so those were fun and interesting and kind of put you on edge a little bit be being in the the lowest floor of the cobb cownie president being surrounded by prisoners and shit was a little little kabuki shen and a little crazy but they were often. I mean i can't look at any of them go. Jesus christ hated that. Well actually i can. Let's go that way. The to talk shit. Up in the foothills of south dakota was absolutely painstakingly brutal while i was a brutal it was brutal from from a crew standpoint and from different things going on in the company that there was process and procedure put in. That made no sense that was put in by people that actually have to go out and do things so where i'm used to i. Would i would walk onto set or i would walk onto shoot I'm in charge. So i pretty much tell everybody what to do. Talent the crew everything and that was set up in a way that the there was a like a crew boss. There was a director. there was a dp Which is cameraman for you and me and all other shit and it. I'm talking to talent directly telling talent what to do and how to do it. And then i started talking to the camera man who got upset that i said. What's your what's cameraman's ain't. I'm not a cameraman. I'm a dp the fox at dp. So she'll soon as tough getting through and it just wasn't fun you do that. Shit man you gotta have fun. Jason says in hindsight would you re book wrestlemainia ten for myself. I would have done advertise main event. Well i thought that with the way that we did it. Had it had people guessing and you didn't know what we were going to do. But i think it was interesting enough that you wanted to tune in to see what we would do not agree with that This is one that. I know you're gonna have fun with eighties wrestling fans i was at the arco arena on november sixteenth nineteen eighty-eight when you debuted in the ring with hulk vs or hulking can slick or the reaction of the boys in the back to your performance B brian blair was reportedly fired that night and dawn. Morocco was also fired around that Memories of them or event. I remember the event very well because i was terrified. Taken that bump over the top. I m being handcuffed so when we first it we did it with regular handcuffs and i had nowhere to go. Because i couldn't hang herself. It was gonna break my wrist. And i got to the top and i caught myself on the apron on. Yeah this this isn't gonna work and so we went to the shackles which adds chain and everything. So that i can at least get all the way to the floor Still damn near broke my wrist. But i remember mardi janetti take me out to the ring and marty show me how to take the bump easy with with alk and just just did it but you talk about first of all. I think it was. One of the first events ever arco arena. It was one of those rain as it went straight up so when you were in the middle of the ring felt like the audience was right on top of you. And that's that's just magic when you're a performer. In the middle of the ring because they reacted everything hogan was the first one to get his hands on me and touch me in any way so that was a had. I had some heat going into that and it was electric in in one of the high points of my career. It is the highpoint. Probably my performing career. Aaron cheek says any good stories from syndicated. Tv voiceover sessions. You had us. Oh god You know the the most fun a lot of times is just especially with gorilla. And bobby is what are they gonna come up with. And the the the funny thing about it is is people would think that so much of that was written. And what have you they rehearsed and the beauty of it was. We would sit down. We will talk about the stories. We talk about what points we want to get across and then the talent did their job and monsoon. Heynen were fabulous. Doing that. there wasn't a lot of say this say that or go here okay guys. It's a reminder of the story and they would go out and do it but you would just be double over in laughter with some of the things that will come out of Monsoon and heenan with dense and jesse and bruno a lot of times. It was massaging bruno. Because bruno did jesse was making fun of him or not and thought. Sometimes we were feeding jesse shit and didn't get. Hey it's a work. This is the dynamic here bruno. The jesse's going to fuck with you. But bruno was always gentlemen and it was. It was good but never Later on john philip. Kelly came in and wanted more say in things in there was a voice voiceover one time that honky tonk man and roddy piper worthy to analyst and color and piper called hockey agrees ball and flip got very accept because he felt it was a derogatory term towards. Italians and fivers looked at goes. He's not italian right. He's as i can't do that because derogatory goes take a look at him. I mean look at him. What did you call the guy that looked like that in the fifties which is what. He's portraying a guy from the fifties. Yeah he's a grease ball and that was an argument that that we lost because it was one of flip's first times in there you know so you had to kind of put him over. Okay you win okay. I won't say baseball sir. But i i agreed. I said he was italian. Wouldn't even enter the conversation but yeah shit like that. Ron says a frozen reversed and the deputy had to sell the wcw back in the day. What are the chances. We would have. Seen vince on tnt. Eventually you never say never. But i don't think that would have happened. John says had red heart never left. D think mcmahon austin would have been as big as it came to be possibly possibly but i don't think that that character would of would have made its way onto tv. Mr mcmahon the mcmahon character was formed out of that interview. jr great question About piper for mister chair here. He says when he came in roddy was already a face was never really a he'll again for the remainder of his career. Will there ever any plans to turn heel again. I know people loved him but he seemed to get so much heat as a heel and the heat draws the money right. Well we tried to get rowdy is a he'll when he came back with szanto hair and had roddy cutting as roddy piper. He'll promos and what have you and nobody wanted to roddy we. He was hard. It was hard to hate is to entertain entertaining. Mike kelly says what's the story about morocco's firing and eighty eight. I don't know you said that you know talking about sacramento. I had absolutely no idea. Correy says who. Bruce enjoy working with more lisa wolf or fantasia ones dragon lady in the other one damn near burn me up. I'll go with one the damn burn me up. You'd rather work with that guy. Yeah i'd rather work with guy that set the small place on fire which had no escape from then man in the ninety says. What are your memories of announcing for memphis championship wrestling in two thousand and dealing with teary golden as a promoter. Wow okay. There's something going on here because i had this question asked me last night really. That's that's really really really funny Terri alden was a a good promoter. A good guy and he did well by us and in my opinion. And then you know we kinda retied things with the jerry lawler and everybody and made that change again but You know it was. It was fun. it was an outlet. But you know it's one of those things where you're allowed to go out and just do whatever you wanna do in play with no supervision and that's what it was like there during that time being a character for a few weeks on their show the to more than wrap things up. Wbz fan says if four you're in flare both stick around and hogan doesn't come back. What do you think the rumble in ninety three in manny and nine wound up looking like this sort of interesting so thank no hug into running in the end and you've got warrior and flair on the roster minded of look like if he had to fantasy book real fast. God i don't think i would have ever wanted to see Flaring warrior. that's for sure of course. Not but you got another flare and brett. That would have been interesting. And i guess warrior yoko. If you really wanted to pass the torch to yoko now what your yoga would have been very interesting. That that definitely would have been very interesting We you know by the time. I'd gotten back and everything happened. Everything got blown up at it survivor series. I don't know that we it even discussed at that point. What would have been. What the hell wrestlemainia nine was going to be. Because we hadn't even made the decision on yoko yet right last one. Who's the person you feel was really before their time. The person that wasn't on top of their era but would be a multiple time world champion and a subsequent era Well i've always said yeah. You know the this may not answer the question but gino hernandez i think gino hernandez had he lived and been able to go to. Wwe think would have been one of the biggest stars in the world. Yes yes off off. His personality and is is workability is well Wow i think diesel. Ten years earlier would've would've been a megastar because he had the size of the look and the charisma so diesel in like eighty four eighty five instead of ninety four hundred five. Yeah yeah that's a good idea. We'll all right boys and girls. That'll do it for us this week on. Ask bruce anything special bonus edition little saturday drop. Our plan is to be back next week. Talk about wrestlemania twelve. What do you think we'll talk about next week. Bruce well may twelve was very special to me because it was the wrestlemainia than i out. And then i got married The april third the wednesday after it. I think that's right timing but it was definitely after us me and twelve but it was iron man match was all about brett and sean and i think an incredible ironman match. No you didn't like it. But i thought it was excellent and we can also talk about undertaker diesel. In just so much of the controversies. We lead into that. Wrestlemainia warriors return with triple h mark merrill. The wild man. Marc mero in the first time that we ever saw sable all on that card And of course you know not dimension piper and the hollywood backlot brawl and what could have been holy shit. There's so many stories so much drama around wrestlemainia. Twelve that We'll dig into that pretty deep and have some fun with it. See there you go. Bruce is ready to record. We just got find the time and we're going to try to do at this weekend if we can't we'll try to steal a few minutes during the week but we look forward to being back with you next week right here talk about wrestlemainia twelve right here on something wrestle with actually rock anything beat good customer service. I mean i mean sometimes we have a really great experience at a restaurant or delivery experience or contractor house. Nothing beats great consumer service and we know that that save with conrad dot com. Check this out. John in houston texas left us a five star review and had this site. I the great experience with first family. They made me feel like i was their only customer to what a great compliment. That isn't that the goal wanted. Just feel like you're number. How about this. Here's a great one from brett and pelly florida. 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Sacramento Kings Doug Christie

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Sacramento Kings Doug Christie

"Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of affordable. Eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at any dot com slash p r. The bull forty eight. I'm Howard Beck. Senior NBA writer for Bleacher report. My guest today is a four time member of the NBA's all defensive teams. But more importantly, he's a member of I think one of the most entertaining teams that I have had the pleasure of witnessing in person in my NBA beat writing and even podcasting career that is the Sacramento Kings. And he is Doug Christie, Doug. Of course. Now a color commentator with Grint Napier on the king's local broadcasts for my money. One of the best local broadcast teams in the NBA if you're a Sacramento fan, or if you're a league, passive Scribner, you know, it they're they're fun. They're inciteful. They they enjoy it. They really engage the viewer. I love listening to those two guys grants always been one of my all time favorites, and Doug as I say somebody who I watched a lot because it my Laker beat writing days, Lakers and kings mixed it up quite a bit back then and Doug was part of those legendary battles. He was the guy. Night in night out trying to check Kobe Bryant when they were facing each other in the postseason and Doug Doug's tough dove. Doug made Kobe work. No one's going to be Kobe Bryant back in his prime. But Doug gave it all. He had and also mixed it up, of course, famously with Rick Fox in a preseason fight. Yes. Folks in the NBA we used to have preseason fights. Of course, I I had to ask Doug about that. So we discussed his legendary kings teams from the early two thousands. Chris Webber devotes pages stock of it's that whole group. They were a ton of fun. Then of course, we discussed decrepit kings who after a very very long playoff drought. I think the longest active drought in the NBA. These kings are on the verge of something. They may not make the playoffs. They faded a little bit. They're sitting at five hundred his I record this but the kings. I'm gonna use the word fun again entertaining. They're funded entertaining. Again, Darren FOX buddy he'll bogdonovich. This is a good crew. Marvin bagley. They've shown a lot of promise. And Doug tells me he saw something in this group early in the season that told him they were ready for this breakthrough. That frankly is a head of schedule. Even if they don't make the playoffs. These guys are ahead of schedule their up and coming. They're great to watch. And it's great to listen to Doug. And grant called her games. You can you can kind of see something special in the making Sacramento. So we will get to that in just a second my weekly plug, please subscribe. If you haven't already own apple podcasts on Spotify on any number of Android platforms. 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And with that we will get to my interview with Doug Christie. I'm now joined live from an undisclosed location in midtown Manhattan by Doug Christie. Thank you for joining me, Doug or thank you for having me to join you. We are in your let's just say modestly sized hotel room here in midtown Manhattan with a makeshift studio here, but it's convict it works. I mean, you know, it's different. When you're the TV guy is when you're a player, you don't you? Don't get the biggest room you're gonna say motel. Just not the biggest rooms. Yeah. You got you got you got the sweets when you're Algo. That's even there's a pecking order they're like when back in the day. I'm sure see web probably have different size room. Then maybe you Patia. Yeah. You know in a lot of times, it just depends on the player because if you do want a sweet, they will get you sweet. But you have to pay the extra for the suite. So they pay your regular room rate. And then if you wanna sweet you can bump up to a sweet if that's. What you so choose. But if you're the star of the team just kind of takes care of that. Yeah. You know, what that's a good question. I think they charge you. But you never know in. There's always a pecking order and everything. I don't know how that functions or how that plays into the salary cap either. Right. Like, how many how many suites can you bump the star up before it becomes a cap? Is there an exception? They're sweet exception. Never know. So so you guys got into recording us on a Friday morning. You guys got in Thursday night. You were saying that you you just kind of stayed in this time, watch them NBA. What's your usual? New York routine. You've been traveling for a long time as a player now broadcaster you played here actually for a brief time as well. Do you? Do you have a New York routine? Do you have Goto spots that not not really I last time. I was here. I went to a really nice restaurant with grant we went out and eight and we stopped at a cigar bar. And but not not not really because this is my second year come into New York. So normally in any city. If pages with us if grant obviously grants with us. Bobby Jackson's now assistant coach, we'll we'll go out and get a bite to eat kind of hang out and talk basketball, and what have you and just kind of relaxed. Normally would would what happens. So as you guys arrive the kings. This has been I just did did what we call our spotlight videos a week ago on this about you guys being the kings being one of the feel good stories of the season. This has been this has been so much fun to see this team merged. But as you arrive in New York for the start of what could be very critical and difficult road trip for these guys. They're five hundred I think three games back in the loss column from a playoff spot that a couple of weeks ago was looking pretty good, right? How you feeling right now about what you're seeing from this kings team and their potential to end this very long drought. You know, it's going to it's going to be tough. It's going to be close more than anything. What I've been saying because you know, grant Napier who. Who is the play by play for the kings? We do a radio show as well from three to seven weekdays. And when I'm talking to the fans or when they call in and we talk about the kings. What I say is listen to the kings are probably year ahead of where they're supposed to be. And if they make the playoffs that would put them two years ahead of where they're supposed to be the fans are like, oh, why don't understand? And I'm saying there's a it's a learning curve that you have to go through in sometimes it's very painful. So when I look at the kings this year, a lot of the losses are painful losses. But they are also it's necessary for them to understand the sense of urgency that goes into being ready at the beginning of the game closing quarters starting this third quarter with the bang and not a kind of falling into it. And those are painful losses that sometimes the other night versus the Boston Celtics. It comes down. And Gordon Hayward hits a big shot and then buddy hits three. Free throws end up hitting the game winner in the game's over and you walk away going. Oh my God. How did that? And then you lose to the Phoenix Suns. So I think that it's it's still a possibility, but they're going to have to play to a level that they haven't played or if they have played it's been sporadic. They played sometimes up to the level of their competition, minus two versus the Denver Nuggets right before the all star break, minus two versus goes day. Warriors coming out of all state all-star break, then beating okay see right after that. That's a level that they can play to but to play their consistently is difficult. Yeah. And this is one of those kind of immutable laws of the NBA, Doug. And I say this all the time to to fans, and it's something I learned over time of covering this league. The youth thing it matters that the experience it matters in a few weeks ago before the Lakers just completely face planted. One of the reasons I was still bullish on the making the playoffs. I said listen the teams ahead of them the clippers traded away their best player Tobias Harris. Maybe they're not try try-. They're certainly trying on the court, but structurally, they weren't. And I said in the king's nothing against them. This is not a knock at all young. They're really young. They've never been in this position before and it wouldn't surprise me as a young team if they faded and that wasn't a criticism. It's just this is one of the immutable laws of the NBA. And it it comes into play in the playoffs. When you're having experience versus inexperience tell me you've went through this as a player, you a young player once and then an older player working with younger players isn't just about the pressure of it or not having been in situations. Like when you see this team start to falter here at a key time when yes, it's right there, the playoff berth is right there for the taking what are you seeing happening with youth in that pressure? Cooker, you know. When you talk about you give you a couple of examples, for instance, during FOX's now in his second year. And if you think about it the earned FOX was in highschool fantastic high school player in Texas. And then he goes to Kentucky. He's a very months that's pretty much what he's at Kentucky for incredible environment. Probably more fans in the stands and most NBA cities, but in CA run in an asset and he's into into the NBA. So what it took for him to get to that level was a lot of it was his hard work. But a lot of it is also God given talent meaning that in highschool. He's able to dominate because he's faster in I've been in that situation more athletic. I'm just crushing guys. Just because of that. Now, I'm also good. I got skills. Then you make it to college in something. Similar for him. And Marvin Bagley similar. He was able to bulldog and take people. In the post inches dominate them. And he did that in high school. He did that in college. He gets to the NBA. But a guy who six six who understands leverage who doesn't way as much as him. He's not able to move them the same way. So now he has to understand reverse pivots in different things like that. And it's a process of understanding in. It's also the MBA guys coming in earlier in the fundamentals not being fully developed, in my opinion, that is something that you have to go through. Also, you take into consideration away that the kings play. They play extremely fast the pace of the game is very quick. So some of the chace that you would settle for early on when it's a high leverage moment. It's not that you don't shoot them. It's maybe you create that shot as opposed to taking net shot and the difference in that is ACA walk into three pointer or I could dribble drive create help. Now, someone gets a wide open three pointer. It's a small difference. But in the NBA. That's the difference in winning and losing in being elite team in being a youthful team and understanding time and score. And that's that gap. They still have to kind of bridge. Right. That's the next step is not just winning on their talents or on their chemistry, which I think is fantastic. So you can see this as a team with really good chemistry. But that they've got to actually understand like certain fundamentals and dealing with teams that that really know how to take away their straits. And with that being said our dis guys are learning so fast. That's why I got really good kid. Incredible incredible talent DR in is is learning net. Fast in Marvin is learning fast. And I use those two because last year like in a preseason deer and goes up in. He goes to the basket normally probably like he would and he gets hit. And he lands on his back, and I never seen that happen to a McGinn in reason is he understood that now I have to go in at an angle that when I hit somebody at squares. Me up and I land how I wanna land. And I just it blew me away because I said to myself. Wow, that's on the job training. And I said the same thing for Marvin Bagley we played after his injury. We played the Golden State Warriors right after the break. He gets the ball first possession. Andrea Dallas strip second time. He gets it. A Kevin Durant strip second third time. Kevin Durant strip fourth time. Kevin Durant strip the fifth time that he gets the basketball he reversed pivot. He sees. Kevin Durant arms goes underneath them draws a foul and goes to the free throw line and Kevin starts to laugh, and he walks up to him in pats on the chest. And I said to myself like for just the Laban fan. You don't realize what you just witness us witness at this level? This is the highest level of basketball in this is the best team in basketball, a young kid who is just bursting with talent. And learn right before your eyes. That's why the kings are your head because these guys are learning. So. Fast tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Our friends at Xeni optical offer, a huge variety of high quality stylish frames and state of the art optics starting at just six ninety five. You can get multiple frames with this great pricing for less than one pair. Elsewhere start building your eyewear wardrobe from the comfort of your own home at Xeni dot com. 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When you look at where they are. Now was there point in the season where you thought all right? This is for real like I like a month in. It's like, oh, this is nice. But you expect him to fade they've hung in this whole time. What is it that is has made this a defining kind of breakthrough season for them? And and when did you recognize that it was it was real and sustainable, you know, for me Howard? I recognized early on you know, when we were pronounced Keeton and talking about the season. I said. This is probably around the time two kings need to start trending towards forty people are like quad or forty wins. Yeah. Forty wins. And they're like what you know biggest has about twenty five and a half some of the people around here think we're only gonna win sixteen. We just got beat by Golden State Warriors in preseason Christie. You're crazy. But being our team when I played with Lada impatient. All those guys was and makes and people didn't see that happening. But what you threw the ball out there. You say, oh, okay. I get it. And I saw something similar in my opinion with this team, obviously lot leading and understanding and the talent base. I'm a big earn FOX guy. And I think that into days basketball, the point guard is like it's huge because if you think about the point ours and Western Conference, you about some of these point guards in Eastern Conference kyri got Steph, you've got I mean, you can just keep going down the line and the one thing about the earned. Fox's he plays both into the floor. You pair that with Bogue novel. None of it's it can shoot the ball high leverage situations from winning in Europe, but he healed in incredible shooter. And I was really high are Marvin Bagley because I think that he is one of those players that you don't know what he can be. He's six ten he's athletic as anyone in the NBA. He can dribble a little bit you can shoot it a little bit. You put it in a block. Either hand incredibly beautiful, touch and his motor is is first class. So with all that being said. Probably right after ten games for me personally died early in the reason is I was standing out. I can remember the moment. And I'm standing there with grant. And you know, how we do our hits before the game were standing there waiting to go on. And I always look at one end of the court now watch guys warm up, and then I look at the other court, and I kept saying to him I'm going we could be distinct because as a player, you're going through the layup lines, and I would look down, and I'm like, okay kinda see some matchups in. Yeah. All right. We got this now with the kings, wouldn't wow was playing. It was different. We felt that way every single time on course. But and then we would start playing in the style of basketball lend to the fact where you would see guy start grabbing their shorts in in. Like, he's guys are tired like, okay. We could actually beat this team in it. It was a consistent narrative that started happening. And I think. Probably grandma always says after about twenty twenty five games for him. He realizes if a team is real or not. And I think that it even took people probably another ten probably after about thirty games for for me. I was personally. And I was scorned a little bit by by people because they're like, you know, it's great to be optimistic Christie. But you know, what I'm saying basketball is it's a it's interesting game. It's not always that you have the quote unquote best looking players the best players. It's the mix of the jazz music gets the Gumbo. It's does it. Does it taste, right? Does it feel right in one thing that we have is we got we have a locker room from when I'm around them. They enjoy being around each other. They enjoy a being in the gym in working in those are a lot of the similarities that I saw an art team that allowed us to be successful sounds like some of this was just by feel like a little bit of body language. Like, you just saw something in this group that that spoke to you that was beyond. Okay. Which positions are we strongest do we have enough shooting? Do we have obviously those things are there. But there's always that kind of alchemy of about it too. And it sounds like that's what you saw. Well, that's similar if you watch because it would I started the job I was doing radio pre and post in. So the my first year was the first year that Golden State one and not knowing saw that coming. They some good, and I talked to Steve Kerr the very first game was played the kings. So, you know, I'm the new guy. So I'm figuring I'll go into in. You know, maybe ask the question. I I didn't hadn't had a Kahane's asked the question. So I'll wait until he was done. And I said, hey, Steve, you know, you know, what's different this year than you know, market than previously any K, Doug, you know, oddly enough, you you're the guy who's asking me this question. Other people weren't around. It was just me and him. And he goes we Andrew bogut it. And he said we're going to do a lot of the things that you guys did. We're going to pass to him into high post. We're going to cut off of him continuous motion. And we're gonna shoot basketball in thought to myself. Wow. Okay. Because I I always thought that our team was so far ahead of the curb that we've seen a lot of teams copy that Golden State. I even thought who got credited for beautiful basketball was San Antonio Spurs when we played against them their style of basketball wasn't beautiful. But when I watched them Golden State, it was the outcome e it was like, okay. You got shooters out here. You gotta defender. You got a guy who can do, you know Harrison Barnes who we now have kind of that guy who does a little bit of everything, and it just fit bang, and I kind of see something similar with the Sacramento Kings. It's interesting, and I I always think these are the most enjoyable snapshot moments for teams is when they're on the cusp, right? Young team that all of a sudden the town was always there, and you never know in this league can go. Either way and talent doesn't always equal wins. And talent doesn't always equal understanding how to win period like it. There's there's talented others winning basketball. Yes. And to see team that kind of where it all kind of snaps into play. All right. So is that next leap though, right? Whether whether they make the playoffs or not there's that next step. Do you look at this team and see? Okay. It's just now a matter of like internal growth teams that just it's just a matter of guys taking those that natural progression. There's enough talent there or is this a team where you're thinking like, you know, what they're going to lot is going to have to work some magic. And and put some guys around them. What's what do you? What do you think they're outlook is at this moment? You know, I think that the poor of this group, and I consider the core to be Deering, buddy. Bogue done Marvin hairy Harrison. Left anybody out? I think that's about a think that's about the the bowl of it. I think that that is a really really good core. Are there a move or two that you may need to make? Yeah. But I think it's also based upon the pain that they have to go through this year to see who takes that next step as individual players. Harry jowls is taken a step right now this kid man, I could see how he could have been number one overall pick. If he wouldn't have got hurt because he can do you reminds me of C web on court. He grabbed the ball, and he's pomegranate, and he's looking for cutters. The so you pair that with Marvin Bagley if this is what he's doing in step one. He fast forward a year ahead and high school. So he go to college. He's supposed to be a freshman college this year and to watch this kid grow. Then I haven't even got to who I feel is the best player in that is the earned FOX. I mean, he he is special man. I watch him play. I see how he's. Learning how to get buddy. Involve get bold gun involved find their shots for them. But also still be aggressive enough. So when you pair all of that together, we don't know what their next step is going to be. So the delicate situation in I only the TV guy, but died just dig this stuff. I'm a nerd for. It is how far or who. Do you bring in that make sure that their personality does not mess with the continual growth of these guys? I thought Harrison Barnes was an incredible pickup because I think he's exactly what you need. He gives you defense and in in link at the three position, but you can move him around a little bit. But he doesn't need the ball in a way that some players need the ball that could stunt the growth of some of these players. So I thought incredible pickup. So to answer your question. It's this is the delicate part that's hard to say who takes it in. How do they take? Into the summertime, but he'll took into the summertime this guy. I don't know if he ever came out at the gym. He is one of the hardest workers I've ever seen. So I don't think a lot of people saw, but Heald's growth this way. But if you ever see him work out, you'd think in okay, damn this guy can shoot a basketball like nobody's business, and he doesn't leave the gym. And he's trying on defense and he's improving so. That's a good question. Our in that is the Gumbo. That is the thing that you. It's like how do you do it in? I personally out of all the teammates I've ever had. I've said this many times blahdy, it'd be the guy that I would choose to lead them because of his sheared demeanor. And how he goes about it, you you don't know what that big guy knows you think he's using. I know that he uses his his language bear to his advantage. Jesus. Sees a smart one. Yes. He's he's Lois onto a false sense. Joe? Well, listen, I've been you know, a lot of people I have been critical of Laudi in the past. I think it was a little bumpy early on a notes your old teammate. It was bumpy early up down where some missteps, yeah. But they've straightened us out. And they've made some very smart moves of the last couple of years, and I like Harrison Barnes straight as well. That was the right move at the that's a move that if you'd made a year ago, it would have been what are you doing? Yes. This moment. It's that stabilizing force with some experience. Really smart thoughtful player was the right move at the right time. Like, they're they're making good moves now. And now is that question are how much do we just kind of let it kind of Joe and see where it goes. And how much do you, you know, keep working around the edges of it? Where does Dave fit into this in terms of just like he's I feel like he's on the fringes of this coach of the year. There's always like six seven guys for the year. And I feel like he's got to be in that conversation. Given this big lead foam made is there one thing you've noticed about him. We were talking about this before we started recording. You go to a lot of practices. Not every broadcaster. Does that? So you're serving can you get a sense of like, you know, some guys it's just great with the basic schematics. Some guys are personality guys. Some guys are you know, it's the way that they communicate its defining roles. There's all these different coaches at the check Dodd different boxes and not every coach checks all of them. What is it is the one thing about Yeager that you've noticed that has been been a key part of this this leap that made. You know, coach allows me to come to practice, and I truly appreciate it. Because I think that it helps me do what I do. Plus, I just love being in a gym. So I be I don't know be doing if I couldn't go to the gym. But watching him I so we were in Milwaukee. And it was the first time we played the bucks this year. And they just beat the brakes off of us. And we just lost on the other night by a Lhasa by one by last second shot, and that was at home the first one when we lost them was in Milwaukee, and we had been playing really good, and we were trending kind of where people are kind of going. Okay. What's his team going to do? So we go and get beat. But the day before coaching has one of the most incredible practices that I've seen the energy was just and that's part of what he does as I as I've watched him. He he runs incredible practices there. They have a really nice energy to them. He his schematics of drawing up plays and different things. Like that is is fantastic. And I think that as you mentioned certain coaches have certain things in one of the things that I think has been fantastic. Nick has been the the practices because when I when I watch these young players, they're they're searching in looking and of the practice that I've been to have been they've been great. Then I watch coach in his staff in the game talk about some of the same things that I just saw the day before. And I just go. Wow. Okay. Okay. I see how that worked and I see where that came into play in those are just special times for a guy like me who just digs basketball. Yeah. Because he's not a big personality Yeager. He's kind of understated, and you guys still smaller market Kingsmill get quite as much run. You know, he's not getting a lot of attention right now should because if you look at this ballclub, I mean, it's it's come out of nowhere. And that's in oddly enough, similar to what you just said is the kings also fighting for the same type of respect is. Okay. Maybe understated in Sacramento. But when we come to town and something that I've said on air as well is I when I first got back kings haven't been good in some people were like, well, what do you think I said, you know, oddly enough in as I look at them this year, I said when I've been around and kings. They've always been good except for for a couple of years. I said, but the narrative changes when you star smacking people around that's only that's how this game is respected at this level. You can have the best players in name might get respect. But as a team as an organization, you have to go out, and you have to put your foot on people's neck, and you have to do it at a consistent basis. You have to do it when you're supposed to do it. Meaning do you beat the teams that you're supposed to be in? These step up against teams when it's houses game going to go, and you beat those teams as well. Yeah. And you're right. I mean, it's, you know, the respect desert, so you they're kings are getting people's attention. Now, they'll get more if they make a plus or kings fans, you know, I feel like they're probably like, they're so, you know, just beaten down by by a years of bad basketball. And just you know, hope that that vanished before the rise in various times, and it just it just been tough. It's been it's been a tough run. That's really passionate fan base. I know because of all the times that I was there covering the Lakers when they were playing your kings back in the day, like ARCO was rocking. Like that is a phenomenal fan base. But but it's up any fan base is going to wither a little bit during long drought. What is your sense of our fans going to be crushed if they don't make the plants even though they I agree with you there head of schedule right now, but they can kind of taste it right now. So is there a little bit of tension there about well, if they don't make it now, suddenly it's? Disappointments real, you're you're but you get another pick out of that. I think they have their. Oh, they actually not pick his out this right because no no reason not to make. No, I don't think that there is a bit of greediness in. That's good greediness. Because you know, it's like, okay, we're here. Okay. Let's go. And from the fans, I told I totally get that. Which means that. Now, the the hope the the bar has moved. So since the bar has moved now. The expectations are higher and the fact that there's expectations put on the kings. I think is a really good thing. And a lot of the fan base. First of all, they're incredible. It was a little different at the beginning of the season. Because now with the new arena, there's so many different things to watch in this new arena. I mean, golden one center is incredible. So when you go in, you know, you're there for basketball, but he you wanna walk around and see this guy, restaurants and all these different things. And it's something that I'm experiencing throughout the NBA is when the ball jumps not everyone's in their seats will go I in ARCO arena, when we ran out at a tunnel that was the show, and it would explode, and it would be that way until the end of the game will now it's a little different and write about this almost like an LA fan base back in the day. You know, how they would kind of come in. And before you know, it the place will be full and then at half time in about the third quarter. Okay to places full again. And. That's kind of what you experienced. But it's more because of the building the fan base. I think has has the right feel about them. I can I'm going around and community again, I can kind of feel that that sense of urgency net excitement about it everything is kings. When I walk in someplace they wanna talk about the kings and as opposed to earlier on like last year. It was like, hey doing you. Remember when you guys played, you know, they were good. Yeah. And that's okay because that's earn thing. And I think this team is first of all running the fan base is trust they've earned their respect by going out. And losing understand losing some of these games. Meaning that he got to go through the heartbreak it's part of the process that you go through where you get really close. And it pains you so much as a player, and I'm going to add to fans in here that you go away in the summertime, and you do all the things that you're supposed to do to take that next step in. A fan base has to go through that same pain. Because then they that's where the passion comes in. 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But nothing like I mean, we haven't even in. This is what I tell them that these young guys want to talk to them. It's like, you don't really know yet. You're getting close. I I don't remember the game. But the other night, I I wasn't on because Jerry Reynolds who took over the job the legend. Yes. The legend himself. He does ten home games. So I went back to my old job. And I was doing pre imposed on television. And I sit up on perch at the main entrance, and I can kind of look down bird's eye view over the floor. And I don't remember the game. But there was a bucket a steel embody. He'll get ready to shoot at three. And I went oh boy. Oh, boy, I could feel it. They were just on the press. Of just absolute they were gonna explode. He missed the shot. And I said to myself because Jamestown was sitting next to me who is the kings inside or and I said did you feel there? And he was like, wow. Yeah. It's it's not there yet. They're getting near the learning how to use the building because that's another thing of young team. They don't know quite how to how do we use our fan base? How how how do they help us? And that's a that's a thing as well. It's a it's a small thing. But for the team, it's a huge thing. And it when that happens, in my opinion, I think the cow Bill comes back. Hold on the there's a cow bell app. I only read there's an app China. Also know it's like so what I o. Oh, you know, what I saw is someone with their phone, and there's a picture of a cowboy, and when you know when you shake the phone or or. Yeah. E pivoted like cow Bill. Yeah. Yeah. I believe that a kings fan actually invented that. It's not just like some farmer in. That's too disrespectful for me, there certain things that you just don't you? Okay. You don't go over the cowbell. That's one thing you, you gotta go, and you gotta buy your cow Bill, and you gotta bring it defense. Technology's great it is. I know that the phone is a lot less heavy than actual cowbell. Those things are heavy doesn't matter. You got to gotta to bring it back in the day. When you guys were at you peak and Arca was rocking. And those cowbells were out the average fan the viewers hearing them on TV, right? Yeah. That's how they're hearing. It. Maybe there's a shot, you know, ESPN cameras are NBC cameras probably turning them showing them. Here's what people didn't realize the biggest contingent of people with cowbells were the ones who were sitting behind the visitors bench. Yes. And the media seating at that time for the visiting media was right next to the visitor's benched. Right. So when they were all leaning forward as of noxious Lee as possible try to rattle the Lakers with their cowbells knows. That was over my head. Yeah. Yeah. So we got the full effect of it. And it was like it's annoying up there to to work. But, but it was awesome. It was there was there was nothing else. Like in the league. They're allowed crowds Portland back in the day. The rose garden rocked. Utah rocked Seattle the garden, of course, there there are places that you knew where the loudest arenas, but ARCO had a unique feel partially because it was a Bandbox this tiny as old arena. Like be this be clear as a facility it was pretty poor. But as a five as an environment, it was incredible. And the cowbells gave it its own unique sense to it. And so like, I I enjoyed that. I probably didn't enjoy in the moment. Right. But nostalgia. So so let's talk about back in the day a little bit before before. I let you go. You were acquired by the kings in two thousand writing the Lakers of just come off their first championship with shack and Kobe, and I remember there was a period of time when the Lakers had Shagged where initially all the Western Conference rivals were loading up on big because they needed extra fouls or guys who could just deal with him. Typically, right, right. And then there was a wave of teams, grabbing what was we didn't call. There was no sitting no such thing as three and d back then like that wasn't a term, right. But that's kind of what it was. So the Spurs gotta go out and get Boeing, and I think that's when the blazers got Ruben Patterson and kings, get you do did you was that the inter standing when you got there like we need somebody who can who can deal with Kobe, Brian not stop. There's only the only Kobe stopper, Ruben Patterson and Patterson, but that was you had some battles. And that was that was kind of your your job for for a lot of obviously not the whole season. But did you think that was a big part of of your acquisition? You know? You no to be honest with you. I I kind of in. This was the this is that goes back to the thing that we're talking about about the vibe and understanding I could score the basketball. But as I as I sat back, and I looked at our team. I said that's not really what we need. We'll need it on nights offense. Exactly. So, you know, some nice I get thirty so nice. I'd get twenty most nights at get about sixteen points. But where I would use the most is I would say, okay, I'm gonna lock up my guy, whichever it's going to be two or three on defensive in in in a lot of times. Once we got Mike. I'm also run offense. So on offense sometimes arrest that was that was, you know, take bring the ball down. Go through a little something passed the ball. You know, set a handout dribble. Handoff her. And so it was. Wasn't understood in that way. But it was understood for me because all I wanna do is win. So once I saw the formula for us to win. I was all in. I said, okay. This makes total sense to me. You know, I'm gonna guard the best point guard or I'm Bogarde the best two or three dead matter. Whoever it is. That's going to be my guy. You guys were I like our younger listeners here. You know, if you have if you don't if you didn't see the kings of that era, and you don't know about them like go find it on YouTube. You guys were the most enjoyable team of that era. I felt like covered shacking Kobe for seven years. And obviously, I watched a lot of really great basketball. Right. But you guys at that time were what we think of the warriors to an extent. Now, the Phoenix Suns of the mid to thousands. You guys were all about pace you're about the ball moving. You talked about, you know, see Weber or Vlada Byan, you know. You know in the high post and moving the ball, and that was a beautiful offense that was fun. And you guys the Lakers were the most team with you guys were the most enjoyable team of the air. Did you did you feel that did you know, it like this was like that you guys were it's funny because I look back your pace was definitely as high as I remember it relative to the rest of the league. I think he has led the league in pace. But I thought I remember you guys me more of a three point shooting team. And you guys actually turns out we're kind of middle of the pack. But you know, you guys would launch the pull up three which back then was still kind of shunned shot. Right. And that happened that I think probably more often with you guys than team was it as much fun as it was from the outside. Did you guys really? Did you cognizant of how different you words than the rest of league? A yeah. Actually, we were because when you travel with vodka divas pays covets and hito Turkoglu every city that you go in as like a rock band coming because they had a contingent of Turkish fans of. Serbian fans when we come to New York the upper bowl will be full in VI. I mean, just like, wow. You know, we pull out or pull in and they are lying on each side. So from that standpoint when you hit the floor, it was it was interesting mix all of a sudden the ball was star hopping around, and it was start moving in to kind of bring it to today as well as when I talked to people about the kings pace, I say there are many ways to play with pace one is to do it the way the kings are doing that is just a forced down because you have Lamborghini in the air and files, but you can also play with pace by the ball moving around. Meaning that Vlada wasn't the fastest guy running. Chris wasn't a fast guy run. But we played with pace because it's kind of like soccer like you make you make a pass. But then there's a quick second pass. And then the third passes the guy that was on the other side of court, but he's moving already. So there's a flow invive to it. But when we got out there on the floor. It was just it was it was special. It was something. And we what we would. Say is that the king show is coming down? And when it came to town a lot of people were excited to see an excited to watch. We don't get as much credit because we didn't win a championship. That's why I say, you know, Spurs with beautiful basketball. And I'm thinking come up, really, you know, I mean, add some great players. But the our style of basketball was the forefather of a lot of what we see dude. Look, you mentioned the the sons, you know, they were the get it up and down shoot the three ball and a lot of things, but they never got past us. And when you we talk about Golden State Steve Kerr said his much to me, but they implemented in my opinion, three ball in a way, different fashion than we ever did. But if you watch them, they're always trying to get layups that was something similar that. We did especially when we played the Mavericks in the playoffs. We'd go in there practicing. They had banners on the wall. It said how many layups that we got because it made them that mad be. Because is coach career who is the great coach from from Princeton in one of our assistant coaches would always say, you know, watched the guy in front of you. He'll tell you what to do. And if he tells you go back door, go back door, son. And that's how you get a lot of layups when you got passing big guys meaning that every single person on our team could pass dribble shooting pivot, everyone now some in certain areas to a different extent. No one shot the ball like Pasia the post game and a pivot game of Latvian Chris was different than some of our guards. But everybody could do everything which changed the whole complexion of the game. He didn't see a lot of big is grab the rebound and take two or three dribbles to start to break. It was always you grabbed a ball to guard comes back. He gets the basketball. That's slows us now. Will if Chris grabbed a basketball and takes two dribbles needs saying don't wait Doug run by the time. He hits me I'm on top of the other guy. And now that leads to a trill jumps. For Chris or Vlada or whatever. So it was we I think we had understanding a Sports Illustrated cover probably help that and help people understand the greatest show on court. But it was mighty mighty about a fun. Yeah. No. And it was a blast to watch as well. And yes, the Sports Illustrated cover people should go back and read that one too because I I remember that that was the that that they captured you guys. Yes, they did. Was random thought I didn't get going through notes. Just like reminiscing. A while. I putting notes together about your air and everything else. Do we think? Plotting might be the last special time smoker to have played in the NBA. That's a good question. Right. Last time. I came across a player who actually like most likely. Yeah. I would say that's a I mean, it's all charter stink tion culture different era a lot of. Yeah. You could be right. Yeah. Most definitely. Yeah. He's not still as quick by. I don't know. That's a good question. I don't hang out with him. When I see I never did. Even even when we played I just remember because me, and blah they've been together since he was in the Lakers when I was rookies, right? Yes. I've known. Yeah. We go back a long time. You're disavow those kings teams not to dredge up bad memories. But I mean that we think of the Lakers being the dominant team of the because they won three in a row. So there are a dynasty. They won three in a row. That's legit. That's that's just how these things go. But I always bring up to people how close it was to being one instead of three because in year one of their therefore lampien ship. Yeah. They're down fifteen points in fourth quarter of game seven in the Western Conference finals to Portland amazing comeback. They absolutely of course, earned it. They win that one day roll year to and then your year Western Conference finals, obviously there's the much disputed disgust debated. Controversial game. Six with officiating issues, and it goes to game seven, and you guys have a chance in overtime of games. I mean, it goes to overtime at ARCO arena. So two things about that one was about had the the thin line between dynasty and just a title or maybe two instead of three because they could have easily lost that one. You guys could have easily been the one in the finals beaten up on the nets. But to it's how we perceive both the Portland team and your team because that Parlanti stacked. We're team was stacked. And you're right like when you said a few minutes ago that you guys don't really get the credit in retrospect, you probably deserve because you didn't have tattled behind it. But you guys went like I jotted down last night. I mean, it went a forty four wins and a first round loss to fifty five wins the next year and then swept by the Lakers in the second round sixty one and sixty one in a one zero two when you lose in the conference finals to them. And you guys were freaking good. You know, it's so the the second year when we. We were swept by them, which is your first year in we when we go sixty one. So you in competition. It's it's weird. Whether you win or lose sometimes doesn't mean what it would it mean to means. That's the finality. That's what the fancy, but when you competing, you know, you know, when you look across you know, and I think they knew we were better team. We didn't beat them. But in my opinion, we were better team. I think if they were honest with themselves, they would they would say as much because if you look at the this Amaki Walker game, I think that was game three is at the half court. He had to have for he didn't account and that was the derogatory shot at the end of the game. We think we are by twenty and a first quarter. I mean, just sheared domination. Just I mean, there's not it's old school basketball compared to this new school basketball, but we weren't able to to close the doors a lot of different reasons. In ways that the I sit around and still to this day because I studied basketball, so I try to figure out different things. But that's the one thing that that. I always that always say to myself is the you know because in different situations. I knew like manna team is really good. They're coming. But I always thought our team that particular team was better than than we just didn't win on paper. Doug. And I've said this before too, and I've written this you used to do those old in the newspapers you would always have for playoff matchups. Do you go up Severson center? You check the box who has the advantage would do by position. And then you would coach you do bench tangible. Check by shack. Check by Kobe. Check by Phil Jackson. He's fill every check would go to you guys and in Portland series. Every check went to Portland that wasn't shot Koby fill the Lakers. I mean, look that's supporting cast was phenomenal in the way they fit around. Those guys Rick Fox Robert ory, Fisher, Brian Shaw, those guys, but talent wise what you guys had him. Again, what Portland had reported part of to this depth and advantages at so many other positions. You're right. Like, I if somebody said the kings were the better team, though, they lost. I wouldn't argue it like it's a legit debate. Right. You guys were that good. All right. So tell me if I'm if I'm wrong to have this particular interpretation of things like obviously covering the Lakers back, then I'm covering more of their side of it. It doesn't it's not a bias. But it is when you're immersed in. It writes, a little you see more of the team that you're you're near everyday, right? Then the team. So I think my views could be colored a little bit by that again not. On. I don't care what the Lakers won or lost. If they lost. I get to go home earlier and take my vacation. In fact, you're one of that run. I missed what am I close friends, weddings because they went fineness, and I was counting on them losing as they were down fifteen in game seven, right? And as I explained to have the conversation with Rick Fox at one of those years where I said, this is not the personal man when you guys are done. I'm done like, I don't I don't need to cover the finals. It's fine. So it's not that. But here's what I've always said about two thousand to whatever people say about the efficient in game six I haven't gone back and watched but you had a game seven at home the end. It went overtime. I think patient Chris might have both been a little bit banged up. And so there was there was something to that too. In terms of just like your your offense wasn't there? But but guys you had the chance of so my feeling is always this whatever happened in game six whatever people want to say about game six, and no I'm not even going to the place of conspiracies and all that stuff. If you think it was there was something wrong fine. There was a chance. Game seven at home. Is it is fair for me to say, listen, whatever, you think the kings still had their chance, and they blew it. Absolutely. We missed free throws. If that game if you ever go back and look at the free, those I want to say, we miss fourteen then we go to double overtime overtime, or whatever. I mean, we we had multiple opportunities. I think pays you had a shot in a corner as well. I had a even heave at the buzzer. Listen, that's it. That's why they're the champions. They figured out a way to make it happen in what you have to listen to. If you go back and look at all championship teams. There's a moment where things could go the other way down fifteen to Portland at home for quarter. It happens. Overtime sacramento. Chris banged up. Pasia myself doesn't matter you're on court. That's what champions do they figure out a way to make it happen where we a better team. Yeah. I'll always say that in. That's the one thing about competition when you're honest with yourself, and you look across from you. And before that, we were not they beat us in a beat a soundly, and we kept tweaking in making things in all of a sudden, we started to gain the confidence in different things in oddly enough when you win a championship, and I did not. But I watched how many teams do it like a Golden State even the Lakers once they win one. They usually win a couple because the confidence goes to another level and all of a sudden, although Shasta Steph was taken now they're starting to go in Kobe's next level shacks just dominant and one goes to three. And Golden State goes from one to four and five years, whatever you, you know, in that's and it's not just the competence of the star. It's also the confidence of all the people that are around them that they've been in the moment in a moment. And I think even for us as a team it went from you know, winning in the first round too beating Utah in coming into our building in winning the first game. But looking at each other and going, you know, we're really good. Let's go in and beating them consistently beating Dallas, and those that gives you confidence. But to take that that next step that it's hard one today. Yeah. You guys still talk about it? I mean, you've got a lot of you mentioned earlier Bobby Jackson's around and a lot of and pays your front office and see webs doing TNC. And so guys are like this. Is it still thing is that is it not really no not too much. You know, we're a lot of fans will say something. So we'll we'll talk about ends now. Yeah. You know, the like for you. I don't go back and watch. It's be, you know, on top of the fact, it's hard for me to watch myself. And now as I've trained and I've looked at basketball differently. There's so many different things that I think that I would have done different that I find that difficult to watch too. Now, that's I can imagine those. I mean, I do it in my own career. You know, like, I think about that era that maybe I didn't properly appreciate what I was covering as I was interesting. Oh, I totally get you. And yeah, I like, I, you know, I it's it's a natural thing. And I'm working on some other stuff on the side to where I'm reflecting back on that era and of basketball and get I mean, it's the same like, I'll go I cringed stories I've written so right? I can only imagine if you're watching replays on YouTube that are there for the. I see. What are you doing? Yeah. All right before I let you go. Actually, I should bring up the one cringe worthy moment that I meant to ask you about you've versus Rick Fox at a preseason game. It was season. So again, folks, it's it's on YouTube actually comes up. It's like the first hit. If you do Doug Christie Rick Fox fight a preseason game. They brawled in a preseason game at Staples Center because that's what rivalries were actually backed or like back to the glorify violence. I read saying I don't want to be one of those guys who says it was better back in the day when everybody could beat up on each other. But it tits speak to the intensity of how much those teams hated each other. And it also spoke to this which was that the off the court you and Rick Fox or both like two of the best guys anybody could meet and the average fan of walked up to you. But on the court you for different Rick particular, Rick at a bit of an edge there. So the fight happens. You guys started to court, and then you run to the back hallway, and it continues in the in the back hallways of Staples. And your wife Jackie gets into it with her parse. Yeah. Yeah. What do you remember that, you know, oddly enough, I so like central New York, this is where I learned that toughness of the NBA because I was with Pat Riley with the Knicks and back. Remember, you'd get fined if you picked a teammate up or opponent up off the floor. Like you knock them down. They're down. Let's go would this us versus you. And that is a little bit lost in today's game. There needs to be a little bit of disdain for one another to take in my opinion in in crush the opponent. That is a must. So when you say preseason game people go preseason. Yeah. It was preseason that was that was the year after the overtime loss. And there were a lot of things said in different stuff. And as you mentioned a really nice guy but chippy on court. I'm the I'm the same way. Once I step inside. Those lines competitions going to go. To the next level. And I feel that that's the way that it should be afterwards. We can be friends if you want to that's fine most times, probably not. But the point is it's there we can go out and have a glass of wine and what eat, but once that went to that level. I was getting ready to go to fans are booing. They're going crazy. And I'm getting ready to run off to court in Bobby Jackson those here. Now, he says Doug watch out. You know, he he, you know, Rick took off running. So to me, you know, coming from the inner city, you you like, okay, if he's running you start multiplying. He's probably running around, you know. So I go from running to stop and walk. So by the time, you know, now, we're the reason that they put those covers over the tunnels because people were throwing stuff at us. So, you know, I it went to the back and all of a sudden, I never saw my wife. I saw that on the ball post game for but. You know once that happened. It got so aggressive in there. She was sitting so close that I looked at her. I said, you know, come to the back because I'm thinking, you know, I'm done, you know, we're going to be getting ready to go here. So that that's kind of how that happened shack around around, and he pushed Vlada, and it, you know, it was it was intense. But I mean for something as Epoca's people saw the previous year game seven, you know, Sacramento versus LA big city small city, you know, team versus superstars all those different things. I think it all spilled to that moment, which was unfortunate. Because you don't you know, it doesn't necessarily need to get to that point. But the point is it meant so much. It was so much that you're willing to go that far and Nova science kids, but you know, that that's that's that's. It's all it's all part of the game in. I I've talked to Rick on a radio interview a sense. And it was it was all good. Yeah. You you Rick. You're you're cool with it. And I have never seen. I've never seen him. We were. I did. I did an interview for the NBA at not last year year before his all star break, they called me. And we're like we'd love to interview you, and I was like, oh, yes. Sure. It is at one caveat. You know, Rick Fox is one of the guys interviewing the, okay, I said, yeah, I'm okay. If he's okay. So we got on and we laughed and talked, and, you know, whatever, it's, you know, it's part of the lower and all the different things that come along with great rivalries in in battles. Yeah. No doubt. It was it was fun back. Then it was it was a little chippy at times. Interesting controversial hard feelings. But but but never boring. No it was. Yeah. No, it was it was a lot of fun. Loved like, I say love covering those series Lakers against your teams. Loved watching your teams it was it was a blast. And I'm looking forward to seeing this young crew that the kings have now get to that level. In fact, here's my northern California by kicking in as a barrier. Kid who also went to school at UC Davis down the road from the king's like to see a first round of kings warriors, which has never happened would be just be now granted the kings are not ready for that. Now. But still that would matter that would be a blast notice respect to the clippers anybody else fighting for the, but I kind of, you know, for entertainment purposes, and just say, my my nor Cal roots kicking in for a moment. Sacramento versus Golden State would be a lot of fun. And also because you know, as the kings are on the rise. Here the words are kinda tipsy stage. So we don't know where they're heading. And so the potential for that to become a real thing in the next few years that could be a lot of fun. Yeah. It would be it would be special to to imagine. That's never happened would be justed. That's nut. So but also similar to we had to go through with the Lakers. There's a championship team. Here's a team knit is dominant is you'll get. You gotta go through them. And you got to figure out the recipe and the intensity and all the different things that go along with it that would just be next level and bring back to cowbells and not cowbell apps folks, if I get to go to one center, eventually if I see any any cowbell apps, I'm going to scorn, you I won't go Rick Fox on you because I don't have the Rick box most back up. I don't believe in violence. I want to see real cowbells Sacramento when I get back there. Doug christie. Thank you so much for taking the time to speak. Great times.

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MadTrio Podcast - Episode 095

MadTrio Podcast

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MadTrio Podcast - Episode 095

"Welcome to the mad trio podcast. This week we have the california pariah. Jonathan charney james. The fat man. Stevens and rob. The old guy goes here. Unfortunately this week we are missing the creepy edition ryan. Preston is not here. hopefully he'll join us next week. After our small hiatus hiatus close enough. This is something completely said. That's enough in twenty fifteen british filmmaker charlie. Lynn l. y. n. e. made the british film board watch a ten plus hour long video of white paint drying on a wall. This was done by him as a protest against the mandatory fee of six thousand pounds. That all filmmakers have to submit to get a rating from the board before releasing it to the general public. Okay let's britain. Yeah that's britain britain. That's why i said. Sit there and watch paint dry. They had to watch it to make sure they could get a appropriate rating for it had to have enough hours of viewership. Which is i thought that the ultimate act of ood militias compliance was forcing them to you. Know watch something by their rules k. James okay. I agree with them. It's like how much were they paid. Six thousand pounds which is probably twelve thousand. I'm assuming it's at least it's in between twelve thousand and eight thousand dollars. Us now go back. How many hours did they watch this a ten hour do it. I mean yeah. I mean as long as you can look at your phone or do something else why you actually have to sit there and watch paint dr a dirt. The screen guy. Who told me that he would buy me Sushi if i sat down and watched a star wars christmas special from start to finish without getting up without going to the bathroom without eating anything without playing my phone without any interruption for the entirety of the stores christmas special and not turn it off. Were you allowed to do whatever you laugh or pay attention. You're paying attention because not laughing to pay attention. Not laughing would be impossible and i. He he He obviously had a buy me sushi. But apparently i was the first person he put this challenge to. Who actually did it. But i'm just like yes. It was absolutely terrible. Lucas doesn't even put his name do it anymore. It's as i the star wars fans. It's the one that shall never be named mark. Hamill hates it. Everybody hates it. But i mean it's terrible. It was free food. You know for you that that's perfectly fine. Yeah i was like okay you. I've seen worse true. That's what i told him. I have seen worse. This is not the worst thing that i've sat for only remember how long the stars christmas specialists like ninety minutes herself. I can vouch for james. Seeing worse. he watched all seven phantasm Seventy two hours. Probably what seventy two hours. But whatever speaking of stores christmas special. So did you see the season. Finale of the mandalorian. Yes yes. I know what happened on. I know what happens. Because he knows what happens. He's spoiler. He's mr king read. Spoilers actually social media. I ran into going crap. You ran into so now. Yeah go ahead. Marc hamel posted tweets about how is very happy to see fans reactions and all this stuff about it and that he was really Grateful to to the you know the directors and producers and everything about. But i mean voice. It wasn't like he was actually there. Well i mean obviously full-blown cgi because he couldn't have looked at young no matter what he tried skinny man bod by the way nothing nothing wrong with it. He just could not get that skinny alley. So yeah i you know. I don't know how i feel about that. We are because they looked at that there. Was you know i had another problem with the whole you know Mando wanting to you know it took off his helmet for that whole fan and it's like but did anybody see him. Yes of course. Everybody's saw and they've been doing that. They were the couple episodes leading up to it. He was taking it off more and more and it must because actor through a pissy fit. Apparently well he did. I mean you were totally wrong with that assumption. He apparently said he he. He's the main character in this whole thing and nobody knows that he looks like he's not the voice actor. I i know right no he. He's not the voice actor either. Is it no. He's the voice actor that's him. Yeah and so he really in his you know towards the end. There's i need to get my face. Seen and no offense to him but you know he's he's not a model so good lucky a little bit like yeah right. I do question though. How did they do it in the universe. Because the universe for remember correctly there are allowed to take their helmet if nobody else sees him if nobody else zim or he's with his own okay they all have to be the man learnings together. Yeah how branch of mandalorian did he do. It around over never took off his. I mean never it was never taken off so it was like so the reason i'm saying that is because within the story it fits or did they just remove it around a bunch of people and everybody saw his face. 'cause then that would piss me off and you know About at the end. That's why he took it off before. I can't think of his name right now. Grow goo or something. And why did he die. No the actually has a name. Oh going going with luke so he was leaving the mandalorian. but it's star wars. Did you ever know who what anthony daniels look like. No kenny baker. No peterman no now making want to know right that was all part of the mystique of the whole thing is. I'm like dude people at least your name because it's in the credits as the star right so be happy with that. They want to know what you look like. There's this thing called the internet. I am surprised that like how he throw a hissy fit and my favorite part is somewhere i read last year. He said he's going to quit if he doesn't get his face. Shown in my thought was. It's a win for the studio. They could fire you. Replace you and still. Nobody knows who you are. Well we know the voice pretty well now and toys. They could write off. Got a cold crush true i there. There's always ways to its star wars universe. There's so many ways that you can go with it. You could go with one of those things that people put on their tricks voice box because they have the star wars universe guys. Do any of you guys know who bob. Bob wilkins is well. There's probably a ton of bob wilkins as well. In in the in the northern california region there was something called bob's wilkins creature feature. Which is this isn't something. I heard about until a couple of days ago so it was a tv show so it was like back in the day like after a certain point of time around sacramento california where in northern california After the news creature feature turned on okay And this is they showed the old fashioned You know the the mummy creature the versus black lagoon. And i was thinking. 'cause this wasn't around that i remember as a kid and james might have experienced. This was this something that was around when when you were younger in in southern california where they these creature features type late night shows. Sure absolutely midnight the most favor the most famous elvira mistress of the dark. Okay so yeah. Absolutely and You know you look at Oh god danny danny koker yeh cola. He played count. Cool rider there in las vegas. Every area had their like you call the creature feature midnight. Whatever for you know for us for me. When i was a kid. Ira i mean you know it Which i i'm barely i knew of. I can't say i watched it. I mean obviously as i'm looking this up it seemed the creature features which you're talking about stopped in eighty three so i was only two. It was not something i was telling you. Oh lord that big old and so this sky sky and i were talking about. Why couldn't they do that now. I said well they do that with mystery. Science a rift tracks. But that's more making fun of it. You know and he said so. What about just doing regular like doing it off like a streaming service. I said you had issues with rights. But i am surprised. That hasn't been. Nobody's done that at least in our area or in some sort of cable brings back these old so par part of the probe. I think one is is that. But what the heck are you going to show you know. What are you gonna now modern. Today everything is lightened guts and gore and aqui. And i mean the nice thing about creature feature style type things things vira did. The ad gogarty did things that you know. These were so so be class horror movies that none of them were any extreme violence or everything was Made to further your imagination tugging cheek to cheek that some of it you know i. I remember one of the one of the things. I we look forward to. So exciting about was the birds. When alfred hitchcock's the birds going to be on television and In black and white house. I remember how. Hey gotta stay up to watch this this cool. It's the birds now. Ask me how disappointed i was after the. That's a different story but the fun part was got the girlfriend to come over and watch it with and so that that made it all worth it i i see. I think they could still do it. But i think you're right. I don't think the audience will be there but yeah it seems like we have gone so extreme with everything now all the slasher movies and i think you could do from if you really wanted to do it. When have about the same level of like relevance. I think you could go from late to mid eighties. And back and have some of the same campinas even mid. I said like ninety three and back because you still have like trauma you have all these guys doing. These super b rated super questionable movies Yeah right. I'm a big fan of black and white. That's the only reason. I wish this stuff was still around but i just thought it was awesome that that that was something that everybody had. 'cause i've never heard of bob wilkins. Apparently he broadcast it off of K. sierra and the local sacramento market and somewhere off the bay area. I don't know. I mean i found him but i mean i just i think it'd be some kind of cool but i you know it's just one of those i can't see it being that big of a hit. I mean it'd be. I would like it to be but it doesn't. I doubt it no doubt. I think it would get panned because i don't think the the Gen xers and all. I don't think they'd understand what it is. We were trying to do this. Whole thing i i get. I think maybe i'm wrong. They only giving him the credit. But i just. I think if you did it off a twitch stream or one of these streaming services. I think you could do because they would be able to find their market. I think if you pick your alphabet network in a market like los angeles or even here. I don't think it would make i think online. Would it would totally work if you could give somebody if the studios will that somebody have the rights to do it. I think it would make it Now you're so we're going to switch to. We have a victim of the covid allegedly. Who's we and we as a society are morning this particular celebrity and unfortunately she is not a survivor. Gilligan's island actress. Don wells passed away from covid along allegedly with tanya roberts. I just read she's alive. Yeah i just read that just a second ago. Yeah tony roberts is alive was really sad about communication and that was even on. Imdb that was you know jumped on it in. Nobody vetted rebel relatives went. Wait a minute. She's very much alive and I don't know if anybody's going to know this. Unless you're a fan of this particular series of movies break in star shabu died. Shannen do- Breaking in electric blue was a break dancing movie. If you've never seen it it's it's quite it's hilarious. So i like it. It's a good movie but it was just sad to hear like so many celebrities and people who enjoyed growing up passing away especially doing this year. It yeah it. Doesn't you know it hasn't helped anything with just put it this way. Being in a covid year as as it is unfortunately some of these people that are not very healthy. End up with it as well and then and they go away and they're going away anyway so sorry. I'm just glad that. Tony roberts this toll yeah. I was kind of surprised. Because she's she's a she she's not really in the limelight and the last roll i saw her in was That seventy show apparently pretty much the last thing she really did. But that doesn't matter. I mean appointed. She's sixty eight. She looks amazing. For that age she looks great and so she my age That's not that old. I go by the old guy. Oh right here this is. This is a story. That i i i particularly was saving Oh good this is saved one. Just because i think they're slash. I wish there was. We had a lady. Guest hosts man gives wife and your annual review grading her performance including bedroom skills and this is off the mirror. Dot co dot uk. Go back to england again so a husband has gone viral after take taking his wife a fourteen years on a christmas. Do and giving her an annual review. Chris stairs took full time. Chris stairs took fulltime mom sophie out for a pub lunch where he presented her with two page document grading on her performance and their marriage as if he were her employer so i i said on facebook. Every woman i know would have laid out for this even jokingly. I don't know any woman at these women would have been acceptable of this. I actually this is not the first time This kind of thing is come across star. News readers and Anyway it doesn't usually go very well unless you've got a good sense of humor about it. The father of five wrapped up his job popping the father of five okay then her skills in one area kathy so bad. He's not complaining. Yeah exactly Father five wrapped up his jaw dropping review with a performance improvement plan which encourages wife to acknowledge that sometimes husbands are right after this one pal. Thirty eight has since joke that her partner was wise to do the review in public. She continued to say that she was flattered. That been graded excellent uncertain topics. Chris thirty nine didn't go into too much detail about their view but reveal it. He was very complimentary of his wife's skills in bed I thought it was hilarious. Just because it's like this this can't be real right yeah. I think it's interesting. Move smartest move and i don't. I wouldn't suspect that he would be Mary much longer. Well apparently she must have a pretty good sense of humor. So i do love the comment. He was wise to do it in public because they could see him going into work the next day. The said a black eye are you. Okay no no. don't please. don't mention it. he'd be lucky if he just got a blackout. You know here in this is off the topic. Exactly 'cause there's only so much that we can say about it. There is a Discovery show that Paul and i have been binging. It's called escape to the chateau and funding headlines. Skim across my phone Anyway it's called escape from the chateau this these this british couple and the kind of eclectic retired Irish military officer lieutenant colonel. I think he's retired is some kind of engineer and his wife was a designer a french chateau Which was basically just ready to fall down everywhere and they decided okay. We're going to pick up and move to france and we're gonna do. We're going to try to revive the chateau and it's forty some rooms and it's you know it's pretty big. They got a lot of ground in. I i gotta tell ya its binge worthy. I mean it's that they're so eclectic and funny that you can't help but enjoy the show. So i i guess my question is what type of reality show style is like american reality style with. They're always arguments in or is it actually kind of documentary. Where they're they're fun and doing stuff both. Yeah they don't really argue they there i. I don't know how long they've been married. I don't very very long. But they have a couple of younger kids. He's older than she is. But anyway yeah and A looks good place. I pulled it up on. Imdb pictures of the chateau. It looks really nice area. So she's i gotta tell you her ability to come up with ideas on designs and her taste is very eclectic but fantastic. She comes up with things like going i. I would never think to do something she likes. She's a little bit different. She likes taxidermy. so she's you know. And there's a lot of taxidermy in europe common thing and so she does a lot of things. Everyone does usually gotta stuff something she. She's a rednecks dream. I tell you what. I'm absolutely in love with this couple. I mean they are. They are hysterical. He's got the best sense of humor. I mean he. She comes off with the crazy. We gotta do this and he just around a look right into the camera. You know you'll this give this look like okay go. Yes dear. i'll do whatever it is you wished to do. And it's it's funny it's binge worthy if you guys just want something to watch it's fun and and no cova stuff. Nothing you know. This is all before that Just kinda watch. How different the this couple is and how much effort they're putting into restore this shut that it's it's forty bedrooms and two bathrooms pretty close You're pretty close. yeah So one of the things they did i thought was great. I had seen this elevator before. Have you ever seen vacuum elevator. Pneumatics pneumatic a- elevator. I've heard of them. But i'm seeing them. The first time i ever saw one was one. What is it is to you. Does that remodel. tv show I think it is ice tea. Vanilla ice does one allies. I'm sorry not ice tea. It's the ding ding. did it. sorry. I'm got the wrong. Everything was wrong about that holidays anyway. It's elevator in. They make a big enough for three people. Now that it's it's basically a plexiglass tube that you go into and to get up to the next floor starts vacuum and it just four next keeps going. In the way that they put in the chateau goes up three stories g. It's pretty genius. it really is. Apparently they're treating like a piece of mail but what happens if the suck doesn't just. I don't know it's a good question. Safety features built into the the guy that On the show. He demonstrated pneumatic tube. Works and he's got a clear plastic tube and got his vacuum cleaner and he stuck this piece of paper there. This is how it works at these. Basically what we're going to be. And i'll be darned deduct. The things work really well and i guess pretty safe so anyway so we could have ryan's dad on about because he works. He worked on thirty. We'll have to move to pull that up and see if he wants to talk about the elevators. If there's one of the few things that sucking is exactly so anyway that's my little two minutes for it because it's fun. It's just fun to watch. And i'm just. I am so impressed with their skills He's obviously an engineer. He does everything like an engineer would do stuff. So he approaches it from that angle. And so it's it's a lot to see. I think it's how eclectic between you and i are. I've been watching old british. It's called british pathway. Path on youtube. And they have this cup this the restaurants and this was taken probably back in the sixties because it's color color film newsreel back in the day and these guys will take their beer or wine get hot poker and stick it in the beer. Wine heated up to heat up a little bit of it. And i don't know it sounds gross watching it. You must know the reason. I'm assuming back in the day it was an thing looks grow. Let's warm up or warm beer or wine. Yeah or and like the cool thing about this thing on this one episode. They had like a butcher shops. You could actually. I want this piece this piece in this piece. And the the guy actually ways it with the old school low weights and measure right man back in the day. The all these really neat kind of restaurants. There was a restaurant in san francisco that pollen. I would go to occasionally pretty much. Did the same thing the first thing you walk into as a butcher counter and you select academy pork you know whatever. I mean whatever you want you. It's right there and you select the cut if you want them to cut it special as they would Man i'll tell you what they were. They were ruth. chris. Before ruth chris's with ruth chris sense that same kind of idea I think it was called filler. Filler stake three in san francisco. I don't know that there's there anymore. But i'll tell you what one of the best experience areas just like. You're explaining up to counter i. I think that is really neat. I love the fact that you know back in the day. They weren't an applebee's in every corner. Is you get meets that you don't see everyday you know you could lamb. You could go You know there were different cuts of meats that you don't see every day on on the commercial restaurant menus couldn't they couldn't afford to have all this stuff round. Wasn't such a boutique restaurant right. I think that's pretty bad ass. I really do. I really need to give all these restaurants plug sitter. Can't you can't go into or they're or they're closed already. Excuse me. that's my kobe. So i got a bunch of stories. It's i'm just trying to figure out which one i wanna do. There's one that i thought was fascinating Who was okay. I'm never going to get this guy's name right so there's a guy that called. The tampon king in india was trying to figure out how to make fairly inexpensive lady products. Because apparently the price you could either get these products or feed your family for a month. So this guy figured out after his his his area Shunning him even his wife kicked him out of the house for a while because she thought it was weird but fourteen years later her forty year old Never the man never finished school has fear grad says award winning a products produced on simple machines on groups of rural india so basically figured out how to make these products super heard about this guy using manual equipment and actually provided people away to make money and he's being praised for now this is from the independent dot coda. uk Should be praised for thought this. I thought this was awesome to figure out exactly what the machines were but there is a hell of a lot of pop ups on this site for some reason Just something. I thought i. I thought deserved a shoutout. Because it's not something here about a in rural india in parts of apparently parts of africa wanting his machines that make How clean products for and stuff like that. The gun on him. I hear go and five or seven year. Effort was recognised when he when he handed the nationalization foundation award by president. Patil p p. a. t. i l. He then quickly. This machine which costs between eight hundred and fifty and thirty four hundred pounds is capable of producing one hundred twenty pads now. An hour were companies as procter gamble produced products. The south thirty rupees are thirty. Three p a pack so apparently the the part that caught me the most was the expense of it like in art and the article. That talks about that. You can either feed the family or by those products Good good friend of mine. Goes down to nicaragua a couple of times a year. He hasn't done it this year. Thankfully because he's he's he's he's he's up there in age and he mentioned to me at one point in time he said you know one hundred dollars can feed a family a fairly large family for quite a bit of money. Try that again for quite a bit of money hundred dollars. Yeah a hundred dollars rewind. I need that sound effect up so a one hundred dollars can feed a fairly large family from month. Get basic you know you're not eating like taco bell but it's you know rice beans some meat maybe So the the the reason why this drew my a the. I was just the price of things and i always find it interesting because if you read about third world countries and i would countries is the difference in products. The difference in prices even medication medication here. For some reason the costs a fortune. Sometimes those areas are cheaper because all the rnd is done here and paid for year. Yeah so. I just thought that was was interesting. Jamie got something nothing rear. there's nothing we really see. We prepare for their show hours. Getting ready. I read something. But i wanted to brian around for it. Okay well and since he's a flake really need something next week. So you hold. You can hold that. I'll talk about So i recently was able to find an xbox series s x. excuse me if you don't know the s is the all digital requires a bandwidth. There's no cd drive. The x has the the cd dvd drive Through you didn't want the dvd. I wanted i wanted the. dvd drought. Oops i got the wrong one. It's nine point six pounds. You told me how heavy is now. What do you mean you got the wrong one. I mean what. He's said the wrong one. Oh xbox series x is the one they wanted because because on comcast and i don't currently pay for the unlimited data plan going will you have unlimited data right because i've hit the but it's a fortune and i don't get your speeds. Why would rather not be paying up to one hundred dollars for going over my my limit. True so ridiculous so i still like purchasing games plus effect. I actually enjoy selling them back. It's not something. I wanna keep them back anymore. Game stop the still around. What's going to happen after game. Stop is a curious. I'm not sure. I guess i would have to do a or yeah or get one of those Amazon accounts so i bought cyberpunk twenty seven to twenty seventy seven the one that the keanu reeves they the big highlight was. Ken arrives in it. And it's partially an advertisement of them because one of the characters drives An arc motorcycle. Which is his motorcycle. Company arch arch arch motorcycles. That's his company. John always a big norton motorcycle fan. He has look it up on youtube. He has a motorcycle. It's called arch. Motorcycles arch mortar. Sports something like that and they're completely bespoke motorcycles. I think they're like seventy five to eighty grand a piece but they're made per the person well tell you what he's been running motorcycles this whole life and If i took as many bad spills he's done riding my bike still he may be on one like mine soon that'd be funny so sad keno on one of those man. He's supposed to be a nice guy. He supposedly one of the nicer guys in hollywood But the funniest thing about this game as you keep hearing hearing glitchy was and i haven't had any funny glitches but there are some weird experiences. Apparently you can have sex in this game. Which i accidentally found. Oh yeah no no seriously look at this little no. It was more like kids asleep more. Like what the fuck. What happened is i walked up. The person is a box click and they just kept hitting ecstasy. Would happen the next thing. I know there's flunkies like fuck. No no no no and this is the same game that when you're setting up the character you can keep getting are covering. His sons is knows. Actually what happened like i. He came walking up. I actually had the turned the game off and in this game. When you're sitting up the character you can give your character cheviots gray so like the crying games game. Seen what's this god. But it's it's a fun game. Because i've been screwing around with it but i do recommend if anybody has an xbox one. Don't get it unless you like two to five minute loading times the loading times insane. It's a lot of fun. I actually think if you ever get a series x you'd enjoy it just because i've been slaughtering gang members like i haven't really gone to the plot just been screwing around killing people because it actually tells you like there's little things above the people's heads and let you know who's okay to kill without getting in trouble but i thought it was funny because i after the fact i was laughing the fact i had a gte moment. I didn't know it existed in the game. Because i remember. Gte come out. That was the thing that everybody's said was on the third one. Dude you can have sex with hookers and then you can rob their money from them you gave him. I was not expecting this. Like i was expecting that. Yeah i don't know i. i think i'm kinda burned out on it. I just there's been like no games. That i'm jumping at the bit to be playing these days. Yeah i can see that. I mean i still love. I still love gaming so and so for me. It was a couple of reasons it came with like an hd. What do you call it. What's the four cake. It comes with the u. hd. Dr i forgot the actual name of it. What's the name of the four k desks. Is it still blu ray. Yeah i think it is. It's high definition. Blu ray And so whatever's four k nowadays. Yeah well you. hd. I guess that's because there's there's yeah. Because there's hd which is high definition and there's you hd ultra high definition and allegedly there's more than that but ultra ultra high definition I enjoy allegedly. There's going to be coming allegedly i just saw teaser. For a new elder scrolls. Hopefully it's not an online game because when sucked so rob yes a ryan just said that he did just get out of a meeting. Yeah that was about the lack of storage for all those goddamn cova bullshit. Oh it's a quote from ryan so they're in a meeting discussing it gonna do. Yeah so. I don't think they have a plan yet. Boy they're they're. It's not good down there right now. It's not so. I wonder if there's like a crystal ice cream factory or something down there that's not really producing much if they're just gonna start sticking in professional freezers and i'm being legit. What i hear is is probably going to happen is the military is going to be bringing in refrigeration trucks and just start bringing them in as much as they can and unfortunately for shirt times anyway. Let's hope it's sure times that the bodies are going to have to be stored there. I wonder if they're just going fast track processing. And just say okay. You know these are being. And i don't know how you would actually get away with it. Here's the problem. I mean not only do we have the storage would say immediately die. But there's all the question is how long do they stay. I think ryan talked about it. How long do they stay contagious. After their death You know how hard the bodies having to be handled. How fast can mortuary handle you know if these are people that have plans. I'm going to be buried. Or i'm gonna there's that problem but that's what i'm wondering if fasttrack and say okay all these everybody here is being cremated and you'd have some legal framework and issues to go round legally but i wonder if they're going to say okay after cove it if it's a garrett if it's an actual cova not one of these allegedly covid cases that you've been hearing about this last year though just going to say okay you're going to go straight from from here be to the. I've never problem with that. People want to be buried. That's the right that's a decision. You know you take that away. you know. i've got it in my will i. I don't know how they would do it. But it's the only thing i could. I could see or it would have to be something that the family upfront from the hospital to say. Okay what is it if something happens you know. They're going to have to know right away so they can fast track the people that want to be cremated. I don't know what's going to happen in heaven forbid you know things get any worse as it is down there You know maybe finally people are gonna take this seriously and go. Hey you know. Maybe this will be the wake-up call that the nation needs a little bit. you know. yeah you're right but at some point in time i mean story came across the day. I wanted to bring that up. I forgot all about it was talking about I guess it was a hospital. Christmas party hospital mind. You nurses doctors medical professionals. Apparently they all group together down there and forty five of them. All of a sudden all came down with cove it you know and the and apparently it came down to a some kind of inflatable santa claus or something. People were hugging and it was like. Are you guys kidding me. I mean your medical professionals in u. u. in distilled. But you're telling everybody else not to do and there was a big party. There was a big news. eve party. somewhere in sacramento or one of the outlying areas that apparently bay a giant party with issues. Well we don't know what's gonna come up this but exactly what. The doctors were talking about between thanksgiving and christmas that we're going to see a spike in cases because families are just ignoring the rule. So here's here's actually something that worries me. I recently saw something. That one of the laws got past was boorda supervisor Recently state of california minute. The sony for kelly A mortar supervisors can override or watch sheriffs. So i wonder if there's something now that between that and the state is going to go kate okay sheriff's if you're not willing to enforce the laws were going to do a b and c which include removing your your. They could do something like that. So that's the one law enforcement entity in the country that is constitutionally protected the sheriff's they are elected they're elected officials and the do not Answer to anybody about themselves now. Where does a board supervisors have power with a sheriff's department with the purse strings. The budget is always controlled by a board of supervisors. So that is an area where they can say. Hey you know if you don't do xyz funding for you know whatever else it may be. I suppose that's always a possibility but Other than that they cannot force a a sheriff to start dislike our sheriff here in the county he just. He says we're not mask police. We're not party police We want our citizens to do everything. That's right so we might advise him but they're not gonna go round and any kind of fines tickets a couple of things one What what could the governor do kid heated cra- declare like a true state of emergency. I forgot what the actual term is that the president can. The basic gives superseded powers I think it's called stood emergencies. what's it. There's we've got the term but they always say the president can declare this and then can become permanent dictator because he said about trump. They said about obama. I just forgot the word you remember. James can be permanent dictator. We basically it says it's like it's a certain word you declaring a state of emergency. Yeah i forgot the exact word so he basically can supersede constitutional coup constitutional not constitutional time. I i i've drawn a mental blank to you know i mean i know exactly. So could he declared that martial law could could the new some declare martial law and say okay for the next month. Nobody's allowed to leave their house. Everybody you know and and do basically italy. Did you find out who. Yeah and and so yeah. I believe he can In things could as crazy in the rest of the state is down there it could. It could very well happen but so then the question is who's going to enforce it and the national guard. You can't really have troops correct. You would have to be in the national guard and the california highway patrol through the state police. So now we control so. I'm just kinda wondering if that's what do now i don't know i don't know if california governor newsom would do it or not. I believe you do it in a heartbeat of got to that point. You think. I think he would know how bad you think how bad james are arrived. You think it would have to get before he. He he did that. You have to get worse now. Do you think this is like a couple of you know. Or i mean what. What do you think it would take say. Let's let's let's look at worst case scenario so we got a a a new strain of the virus in and everybody knew there was gonna be mutations of this virus and viruses mutate. It's just a fact of life and the way it is. So let's say this new strain is is highly contagious. Which apparently when it was first detected in britain that was what they were saying. It was that it's considerably more contagious. Which is not a good thing So where you get. Your medical facilities are so strained at such a level that they cannot keep up with the intake of people and that could be statewide. We we'd have a major problem. Are we at that point getting close now. So if you look at the way the state of california's handling the different zones today. They've broken yeah tears zones. Whatever you wanna call him in california So yes there are certain hot spots that seem to have Problems however i was reading today especially when it comes to things like ventilators hearing about there's not enough ventilators. Well that that apparently is not true. We've currently have tens of thousands of excess ventilator. Sitting around waiting cases happens and certain areas like if you take the sacramento area. They've opened up. I believe it's still open. Things like the old arco arena Sleep train arena and they it into a big covid facility in. It's sitting there just waiting For intakes and so. I think throughout the state you have numerous different locations like that ready to go in case things get really out of hand and it could i mean i hate to say it because you know we still have the deniers out there. We still have people not doing what they need to the. I still go go shopping for food. I i mean i. I'm paying attention to the stay at home order as much as i can go shopping for food going grocery store. And there's still people running around without masks on and i kind of like okay. Well the mass thing kind of surprises me 'cause Like even if you don't believe it's that big of a deal. I don't understand the inconvenience of masks. And i'm saying this guy is somebody who's an asthmatic. Who the masks do actually affect to some degree. so i'm that kind of surprises me I i double mask i wear. I wear a buff. We're a normal cloth masks. Because i can't find a massive. It's my fucking face. The same problem with the masks. So there's only certain ones The fit comfortably. And then don't steam up your glasses to right and then so yeah. So we have a local hardware store that i go to occasionally which. I'm not going to as much as i used to. Because literally the whole store every employee not one wears the mask. My one. you don't have to you. Don't want to so i'm sure. Many of the employees feel a little bit of pressure because there other employees aren't wearing masks and They're going to be one of these businesses. It's all it's gonna take as one person walking in cove and the whole thing you know they're all gonna get it see that that surprises me to some degree. May because i've never really cared like you couldn't pressure me not to wear a mask like you could pressure me to wear a mask but i just. The whole thing is kind of blows me especially at a business. I know the whole thing surpri but it's a little bit like an in james doses for says little bit like the restaurants that aren't taking it seriously either. Have any you have any of you guys heard if any of those restaurants that have have have done that and gotten caught to alcohol ended The licensing of said body decide to remove that license so apparently the the apple bistro in camino in this is a worldwide show but little our low area The abc was going to serve a warrant on to this deal. I think we talked about this. But did they. Did they remove license at all because they don't need to actually show up revoke the license. So apparently there is some stipulations. Were the actually have to come and serve a warrant to shut you down. Oh wow that. I've seen that in person so yeah so with that happening Get the came to the sheriff's department and said okay. We need to service warrant. We want you to your deputies. Serve it nap. Sorry we're not gonna do it. They will they finally came to They got down. The california highway patrol asked him to come up and serve this warrant. They apparently got there and felt In the officers felt that. There's something wrong about this. And they didn't serve the warrant so why does doesn't doesn't the alcoholic beverage. Control have their own enforcement about they do so and i have. I've actually seen this person. Because i didn't know it was a requirement so it's basically like serving a warrant or read or whatever so this is the story. I remember there used to be a coffee shop Niro used to live that. I loved and this this guy would list little tiny red aqap badge. It was literally like maybe an inch and a half to two inches wide by an inch and a half to two inches wide and he said as of this point time at this day and yada yada yada officially no longer allowed to serve alcohol. Yada yada give it all now and i. The thing i remember. Is this this little girl because she may be might have turned. Eighteen was was freaked out and the manager came to the rescue and took all the wine home and but i didn't realize that they had to do that. I thought they could say you know do like the insurance does with it with fire insurance. I know a number of people have gotten a dear dear john letter entirely different. Oh wow yeah so so. Basically any restaurant that the that goes against these orders in order to remove the least their liquor licenses after be. What about the restaurant license for the business license or can they pull any of that without that and so that comes down to the county health departments and so the question also was as you know the county health departments. I'm not sure when a force level they have the issue the issue you a health a licensed to operate They've been inspected by the health department and they meet the standards now can they. Can they do something other than what their mandate is like. Oh okay you're not wearing masks or you're you're serving indoor. I don't think they can james anything. I mean you're you're in the industry or anything that they could do on a state or federal level to a restaurant not really now. I as far as what i know is that it has come from the county health inspector. The health inspector come down and they can remove the licenses and that's it but but but but they can't for instance. There's nothing that i know of in california law for the health health and welfare or whatever they they work under his county health inspector goes covers a pandemic or covers mask. Cluttered covers is really nothing that they can do. You can just say that we can revoke your health. That's all they can do. But even still with that. It's like the can't just come down to shut the restaurant down. Could could they do it. Could they declare cannot do that. Could they declare it like a blight or one of those like one of those like loss. Weird way you know you can find out if you could find an attorney to do anything at all right so comes down to county council I suppose very county that might say you know what we're going to enforce some weird law that was put in eighteen ninety seven. That's at says we have the do i but really the health departments. They don't have there's nothing in it that covers a pandemic as far as i know. So if there's rat droppings cockroaches area where it's a different story so the only way really to do it somehow and this'll be on a federal level would be via the irs would have to figure out how to find you'd have to make the laws because there's basically this so far out of anything anybody ever thought of trust to they would have to create new laws but then i mean the rebecca retroactive. Yeah that. I don't know it'd be such a mess to enforce this stuff. It's it's terrible and that's the problem there is there. People have got to take responsibility for themselves. And yeah i mean if things keep getting worse and worse and worse and we actually. You're seeing some real problems that can't be handled Don't like we talked about the governor. Might have you know. Declare a state of emergency martial law. Whatever you wanna call it in in. Maybe there'll be National guard troops out trying to enforce stuff. I guess i don't know. I i have to say though. I hope it doesn't get to that point. Because i don't think it's going to end well if someone not if some of the stuff i'm seeing out there in the ether but some of these people saying i'm not quite sure if it's gonna go well on look at anyway. Here's one of the things don't i i am personally really worried about. We are because of these orders. In i i have seen and been in restaurants that Before the the complete lockdown order put in with that i felt were actually very safe to eat in because it was every other table there. Plastic shields and things put around people were disinfecting and cleaning. Everything's much as possible. Yeah is it more problematic to be inside a building than outside possibly But i felt fairly safe eating in these places in one of the things. That really worries me. Is that unless we keep small business running. What are we. What's gonna happen to the economy. I you know we keep printing money and we keep giving stimulus checks and we keep doing all of this. And i don't care how bad it gets. There's got to be a point where we still keep construction. We still have to go to the stores and get our get our food that means the truckers in all the warehouse. Workers have to keep working. We have to keep everything going. I mean if we get to a point where it gets so bad that we're declaring emergencies and we're doing all these things. There won't be any economy we're going to come into a depression like hasn't been seen almost ever sec the old adage which i a cure or the disease exactly. It's not going to be good. I mean people have to start taking responsibility to do the right thing. Let's keep the country running still I think and i don't mean to cut you off at one of the things i've been either. I've been thinking about this. Is i think one of the. I think this was handled poorly from the start in. No this is my thought on. That is this. it's such negative tones. And i think the reason the reason and i'm mr negative here usually doesn't bother me Was the fact you had people in charge saying super negative stuff and then you'd hear him say don't wear masks and don't wear that instead of like you know. I think if they did the moment of hope type of thing if you had the president whoever say look this is going to be a long hard road like what one of the things i got. Praise obama for a may not a big fan of his policies but as an orator he had an amazing ability to draw the audience wrestling one. Oh one Type of stuff so if you had somebody say this is a long hard road we can do it but you very positive very loving but very very this that and then was transparent about the masks at i. They said oh. You don't need a mask. And the reason why allegedly was because we were short and nanny fi because of shenanigans so instead of saying don't buy and ninety five and level three masks because of blank there was no transparency. There was no hopeful message and then all of a sudden at some point they said. Oh we're going to give you a stimulus. It's going to be great and it's just like no no won't be great because now you're robbing peter to pay paul without any sort of positive message. You're just telling me to go out and fucking spend because you think it's gonna make me feel better by some random retail therapy out of an item. I don't need or i'm paying my fucking bills with it. I got a car payment. Do i haven't i haven't had a job in six months. I think the new some. I thought did a decent job with the bidding getting because i thought he was doing his best to be hopeful. Listen someone's early stuff mike. I don't like the guy but he's doing a good job now. I think it's all political talking points. I think it's gone past the we that we the people that we the democrats. We the republicans in the pisses me off the most. Is you have no fucking hopeful message and you. You can be hopeful and real at the same time. I don't i i don't think you can. I think you can tell people the truth and be honest about it but be fireside chats type of thing. Well you know we kind of danced around this issue before and we'll still keep it because we don't wanna get too political on this whole thing but we can say it's the air it's You know it's the era of the rule. It's the era of trump. Were whether you like the guy or not with a good thing or bad thing. Everything trump was was bad so even if he did something good by the way i think he royally fuck this up and if you think i'm wrong fuck you. I don't actually care. I know why he did it the way he did it. He just personally think almost everybody in the country for the most part agree that he went about the wrong way he was trying to say. Let's not panic. let's not you know. Stop the economy. Let's not you know. And so i understand the direction was going in. But you're right. He handled it completely wrong. And and the and you know what i mean into this point still these denying the fact that they lost the election. Come on guys this. You know you're fired. I'm sorry just lakers show. And i think the other thing and this is this is this is a holistic. This is a holistic. Everybody up is the problem with trump. The most amazing thing about trump. And something legitimately think they're going to teach classes about in. The future is his ability to control. The narrative was masterful and literally amazing. He could control the media cycle by saying one thing and he could do whatever he wanted and nobody would ever pay attention. I'm waiting for ten years now. To see what he actually did wasn't for twitter would probably know anything and the the the negative side is the the democrats even if he did good. And it's bad and so you heard that narrative so you had all these forces happened at once during a really bad time and you even had the democrats going to do the steps now because we really want this election cycle this was. This was politics this american politics one on one. You had a bunch of greedy people who instead of wanting to do what's right. Die on their sword and saying okay. We're gonna we're gonna lose this election. Let's make sure we can help the country out. And that's my honest opinion. I think we got fucked by the people. Vote for. And i've been that most of the people i've met four and didn't like most of them met for you voted for. Yeah i've met four voted for obvious pissed off this whole thing that pisses me off in the reason. I'm pissed off as you've got a high rate of suicide in children. There was a local kid around here. That may that killed himself and made a youtube video about it. You this this this whole thing. The kids ladies and gentlemen are going to be paying for this for hundred years. If it's not for the giant stimulus it's going to be for the effect that it has on their education for the mental wellbeing. This is gonna fuck the future up all because our congressmen were too busy following responses instead of doing the fucking right thing budget glad-handing bastards that come on top that locks on top it. I can't you know. I'm not talking something. I'm just good for you. John come on top it. I dare you james. James doesn't disagree with either. But i mean what do you say what. What am i supposed to sam wrong into now. You know it was. It was handled so poorly way. And it still politics. you know. it's just unbelievable The way politics in this country you know it just is not the way the founding fathers expected to turn out and we're seeing the reason we're seeing professional politicians playing the game in you know it. It's very disappointing. It's it's disappointing in the whole process. I game when they shouldn't be playing exactly right. That's the issue. And i also think and i could be wrong here but i don't believe i am. We're in a post forgiveness world where everybody at least in america. Everybody is supposed to die on their sins constantly. They're always supposed to bring it up they're supposed to be woke about it constantly guilty And i think that doesn't help because now everybody has that mindset the okay this dude fucked up we keep moving keep moving you know and i just i don't know i just think the society we have now is just in trouble if we survive it because when i was a kid james contest this the old guy can is when you said you. Sorry it's buried. You know you you if you love somebody who fight with them and you fight for them in instead. It's you don't do that you you you you you keep bringing their sins up and make sure they feel guilty so you know they can ever move forward i were. I was really hoping to do a very positive show. But i'm so pissed off it this year. And i'm usually the one that most of the talking so i think we got your point so anybody have any Happy things to say. Let's end this and a happy thought. Domon rob you first. Okay james somebody come on you know. We talked about By my happy was talking about escape to the chateau gay james. What's your happy thought or. Did you lose your marbles tom coming. Yeah we're waiting. We're waiting to see what's going to happen with the second dose now on the vaccine. That's being out in the. Let's see if the walking dead comes. True where set. My happy thought is grab a bottle of vermouth and simple syrup and dash of angostura bidders. And i hope you have a wonderful evening as always. Thank you for listening.

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S2 E1 :  Todd Purves - The Consultant

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S2 E1 : Todd Purves - The Consultant

"This podcast is brought to you. By guerrilla podcast syndicate powered by kangaroo furring medialab kangaroo. Irt is trout independent video and podcast management agency with the mission to help individuals and then trapping yours to start their own podcast and harness the power of podcasting book now via www dot kangaroo for dot com a kangaroo and production syndicate every time the extra extra extra session with kiko melik everything about the world of sports especially the one close to their host art basketball things. This kasha larry. Vacation named extra session has extra extra extra session with kiko favors battles and get them away. Bobble okay good day. Everyone and welcome to season two episode. One of your favorite sports off gas extra session with gigamon victim here. Andrew apart gas indicate the philippines overall this episode. Thirty of this gassing. I would like to say thank you to. Everyone was supported this show since the beginning so happen to any twenty-one all is well despite the continued presence of the growth writer so today we are very fortunate to have with us a renowned coach and he has been in the basketball circus. Drought the world specially here in southeast asia. You guys that the nation wired's essien and basketball league championship back into any twelve and handled several teams Including saturday buddha macau Will greer's and then he was also an active consultant off the petron. Sandy goatee team being. He also had an nba experience under his belt wearing he was Video intern and video. Board neater ford sacramento kings sports and free seasons and he was also a national head coach for the vietnam basketball team. Ladies and gentlemen coach dot birt's coach. Good they dig up. Thank you so much for having me brother. I appreciate you and Yeah i'm just blessed to be on here with you. So how are you doing right. The hope what all is. What's keeping coach todd. Birds you my spirit's feel-good kiko spirit. Good i'm out here in california as many of your viewers will know this corona virus has got things pretty rough out here So we're grinding through it. But it's fortunate time that i could spend some family. And i can't wait to get back out to asia of southeast asia and get to compete back some basketball. In the meantime. I'm trying to like everyone else. Mitigate the the events that we're going through okay so let's go back to the beginning. So how did basketball became part of your life where you a player or you actually ventured immediately into coaching. You know. I was a player. And i wasn't a particularly great player guy only about. I'm a five eight. Do about. And but i love the game and so i competed now like to be physical. I played mostly american football growing up own and the american basketball and in baseball but So going into it. I just loved competing playing sports. Unfortunate for mean. God did not bless me with the abilities. You'd wanna have to be a professional toll guy. i'm not an athletic guy I just love it. And so i learned to be a good player when i was a young man and quite frankly he got the gun new in high school. I was going to be a coach or a to be a coach because knew. I didn't have those attributes to really be a legit claire on a high level. So who are your basketball idol. When grow oh you. When i was a real young man Model was doctor jay. Hey in the early days different type of style to the game. That i thought was real cool solves. This young man A kid and watching falling in love with the game. Dr jay was was a big influence on me. I watched larry bird and magic. Johnson compete in my early days and then once i a reached about junior high school will michael jordan came on board and that changed everything so when mike came on we it was different. You watched up akeem olajuwon and some of the rockets teams compete a little bit but basically when mike born to be in the nba. He was just gonna stack chips. And so yeah. I was there to watch short shorts. Go two long shorts. I was there to watch the jordan once. Become a cool basketball shoe. And i fell in love with A really did so. Yeah after a new well. I'm not a great athlete. But i might be able to coach. I don't know so you know Looking at your coaching resume. How started you know one thing that you know the caught that tension my bench option was were the you became part of the nba an nba. Which is near sacramento kings. How were you able to get into. Nba it's very hard to be part of empty. I'll share the story with you man Here's what happened. We had a facility manager. I don't wanna put his name up there. But he was in charge of the facilities when i was coaching at sacramento state. University segment of state is considered a mid major. Because i think they don't have any quote low majors otherwise were low major division one second little state where i coached at did not have a great deal of success in terms of wins and losses also went to school. It's the truth nonetheless. I had an opportunity to cope. Stared mama modder later. We got a little bit better but we did a fellow who was in charge of silicates. And this is a lesson that i'd like to share with your viewers or anyone else about is just how you treat the next man and This this man was in charge of turning on things like the heat and the lights and make sure the court simplicity's were always available for practice time or for game time in those types of things and so we've had a few experiences. He and i did where things were. Your podcast journey starts here. Take the first step on your side hustle with us. It starts we a great domain gap. Your podcast web hosts with beard and coffee at www dot b. yard and coffee dot com dot au or find us at facebook as prepared as i'd hoped they would be and it trickles down. I was the low man on the totem pole and the coaching staff. So i'm the one that gets yelled at when it weren't repaired. Maybe weren't prepared. What the facilities guy was the one in charge. And i always respected him and i always knew working hard even though mistakes might have been made here in there so i never really got to upset at him. Will coincidentally would i didn't realize Is also the facilities manager for the sacramento kings in so He was also making sure that arco arena at the time was set up for the nba games and all and There were times where he and. I could've maybe had disagreements but you want to make sure that it's a grown man you keep all of your emotions kind of in check and even mistakes. We managed to work things out together. And i got a call one afternoon. I was having some sushi at my favorite sushi spot. Yeah with my uncle. And i got a call from this gentleman. Who said you know coach on this but also the facilities guy for the sacramento kings. They need somebody to come in and be hit video. Scout told me you might be able to do it so That was the beginning for me. In a the reason. I told you this story brother was because there were a number of times where i felt frustrated with this particular individual and Would he'd done. But i never lost my temper with it. I i always knew that. If i had to buy. Take the brunt of the gym not being ready. I was willing to do that. But i always treat him with. Respect and There were times where i was frustrated. Which still the next man with respect. And so. Eventually i got that phone call from this man who had watched out for me and i've known guess at that point that thank god i never really snapped or got. Hey got angry at this man. Because he looked out for me in the end and he me an opportunity to go interview with sacramento kings. And that was the beginning for me just getting a foot in the door in it came absolutely from the guy who opens the gym takes out the trash and does all the grinding things that she'd have done and so he gave me that opportunity and i respect him always and you describe to me. What does a coordinator to how what's the main job that's due in. It is a wonderful job kiko. It sounds like you're the guy. I realize finance. It may sound like the guy who puts The video clips that you see highlights and that's nothing about what it does. The video scout does and I went from being both the color. Video I was in an advanced scout. The goes on the road to see things scout us where i really feel like. I got my education basketball. I had already been division coach. I had learned the basics of how to teach offense defense at that level. But when i got to the nba was the real revelation in terms of the nuance differences. How quickly can recognize a defensive coverages or offensive sex When you have a thirty five second shot clock like the. Us does in college. Things took a longer time to develop any nba. You get down there in two or three seconds. They're already in the action that you want to get to. Whereas at the university level it may take them fifteen twenty seconds to get to that same action. So i felt like when i first went from the collegiate level or university level to the nba. It was moving so fast. It was tough for me to recognize and was a little bit intimidated. If i'm honest humana now of course you through the video scouting your time. Who was about a or the land or a defense. Hey i'll tell you right now. This is a real easy call for me. And you think your viewers won't expect what i'm going to say because you'd think listen. Kobe bryant kicked our ass. More times than i can even no coverage for a lebron james. When you're that good yeah. Some of these guys are so good but in terms of the meeting. So in coaches are getting together and discussing what type of coverages you want to use the most difficult player to prepare for dirk. Nowitzki dirk nowitzki Was a seven foot player. So i mean. He wasn't the tallest player in the league at the. But it's one of the toast any might have been the best shooter in the game. So when you're talking about a guy that at that size and that shooting ability in terms of coaching the way you decide to guard it changes everything and so we know it. Kobe's gonna do you know what lebron's going to do you know you can't guard him if they've got the ball in their hand and they're gonna take someone off the dribble every when he's the head toward them but when you're dealing with a guy who's seven foot one and the best shooter a whole nother issue of defensive principles you have to think about and so yeah crazy to your viewers but i've been in those meetings and deciding do your shown a pick and roll to your switch. Do you go under. stay with him. Those type of coverages. That coaches are thinking through and dirk. Is this impossible because when the tallest guy on the floor is the best shooter on the floor. The coverage that you have to choose to do can be tricky coaching perspective. And it's different. Like i said you can't guard lebron card. Toby because that's who they are as players but in terms of preparation known was worse than dirk to prepare for. Because there's nothing you can do with a seven foot one guy who should threes that way so that and being what made you decide to go to the other side of the world which is asia. Was it a hard decision for you. Just expression you are already in the nba and of course was a hard adjustment so i think there's a couple of questions there in terms of making a decision i really love my time and enjoyed my time in the nba. I had started out as the assistant video. A scout. become the video scout Advance scout where you travel before. The team does to watch the team. You're gonna play in a couple of days. And i'd be happy to break that down for us. Well but but that was. That was the first part Is is developing that skill set deciding to leave. The nba wasn't I was looking for a new adventure. I'm open was always open to see some of parts of the world and to go to indonesia from the nba. It did sound like a bit of a crazy move And i've spoken guys that. I really trusted at the time There was an owner of the philadelphia. Seventy sixers who assume indonesia as well as a mentor of mine Who is one of the assistant owners of the philadelphia. Seventy sixers team and We work together to try and kind of build something in so heading out there. I was scared to death I've seen things on the news in coming from america at had a all all the apprehensions you can imagine i really had those and I was just mistaken. I got indonesia and Mild was treated kindness and was treated with respect in their obviously some Cultural religious than every other kind of different you can imagine but my experience there was a highest level. And i'm very appreciative of fans. People i see and then Like you said you handle the. And then eat the indonesia warriors or the end you guided them to an nba ab l. championship. Will i mean how getting you know was it. Do you believe it was just or you. Consider your team a strong one. I suppose it's always going to be a combination of bills to I was very fortunate man. My first year. I had I had a team that was able to win the championship abroad in a veteran. Steve thomas who was really the anchor of our team he is. He's become one of my best friends in life so outside of basketball fans are with steven. Talk all the time. We mostly talk about barbecuing not about basketball. But i love the fact that we could talk about those times too and we share those times together. I was nervous. And i just did as best i could at the time But when i didn't understand is this. I think i knew the game of basketball. Kiko but i didn't know was The culture of southeast asia. So i went there thinking. Okay this is going to be right in. My wheelhouse. And i was entirely mistaken so i went. There realized i've got to do a whole lot of adjusting as a man has a human being and Understand that i'm going to different culture and respect their culture outside of trying to beat my opponents and so there was a combination of a things to navigate at that point in. I think some guys were able to do it in for some guys. It's too uncomfortable to be outside of that comfort zone. I see now. When when indonesia warriors won the championship you know it started. You know your name suddenly burst into the basketball scene In southeast asia and then this was the time you know you were asked to go to the philippines right. How how did you know who. And how were you able to enter the philippine basketball. So i'll be real honestly and we're talk about some things right now for your viewers that can can be maybe but they should receive as sensitive because it was. It was a good time for me in a difficult time in some way so I was contacted by the philippines after at one my first idiot championship in my first year as a head coach Did we went into philippines. And we'd be dead team. They're bigger san. Miguel bearman coached by bobby park senior. A friend of mine Rest in peace. He was a wonderful man. Wonderful competitor and He and were friends for a limited time but had had a real respect and appreciate him and his son very much. So outreach shocked the to do enforce juniors well let him know. Are you a podcast. Who's getting frustrated because her show results are not in your favor. Are you losing hope. Because you feel like podcasting doesn't help generate income. Are you a podcast service provider. Who is struggling to meet your client's expectations if yes head onto. Www dot pods dot com book a call with a founder podcast media villanueva and that clear and proven strategies to earn through podcasting to let him know my thoughts on his pops as well. Manny was just a wonderful dude and competitive so that first year We competed. I was just lucky. We probably stole the championship. there And i was able to Yes start off my career on a good nope i had really Players were playing. For me. In steve thomas in evan brock in we acquired a player named stamp. Rangel who you might be familiar with found him. And certainly that. Behoove gus in first year two. And what do you think when during your time. What do you think about you know. What do you think are philippine basketball in gen. Unbelievable is so wonderful for me. i come from a country that loved sports as you know here in the us we just love to compete American football might be the most popular. But we'd love basketball and basically we love it all is so we just real competitors The philippines when i moved to manila it was the first time i think i'd lived in a country. That basketball was their favorite sport. It i'll say hold on. Let me take a step back for your brother. Because when i was coaching in indonesia with the indonesia warriors went to play at the time to philippine patriots. Zoo era in the philippines. And we've taken a cab taxicab and while we're taking a cab me and a player with steve tops. And the taxi cab driver looked back at me in the philippines. Mind you and he said hey. You're the coach of the indonesia warriors and people. Indonesian didn't know that people in the philippines did it was because that's how popular basketball was there. And i eat. The guy caught me. Totally off. guard was like yeah. You're right but it was. Because that's how much basketball philippines dude knew who. I was for the other team and people in that country didn't know who i was so it was it i remember. We laughed about a good while we got back but he knew exactly. We knew the philippine people were serious about basketball and it was absolutely wonderful. It really was so you. You handled the sending killer thron wound up missing. What was the during that time. How how prepared to where you especially. You entered the team. That was kinda you know. Having some problems camera streetwise. That was an interesting endeavor for me. So i had been head coach for two years. I'd left the nba. I've been head coach for two years with indonesia had some some relative success however you want to quantify five that but And then the philippines Brought me over there. San miguel specifically. I think felt listen. Indonesia does never win here and we did so. I was approached by san miguel corporation at that. Going about joining them They were very professional. I let them know that the might that. I had a contract indonesia It was done and then they approached me and they were very professional I don't know exactly what the rules are specifically now Relative to before. But you couldn't have foreign coaches. I think as the head coach they brought me in As a consultant and Treated really well. I really worked so i. I have so much appreciation for san miguel corporation in how they treated me the dynamic of of having to be a consultant as opposed to the coach was a little bit tricky for me. It was the first time i've ever dealt with that type of dynamic. I was lucky to deal with the gi. Neil out francis chew up And i became good pals. When i was there. I don't know if you knew a l. That will wonderful guy and he. And i spent some time together. We didn't get to work on the same team. Used kind of working with. Never when i was working the what was patrolling the time and we bounce back to san miguel be wonderful guy and eight. Maybe live gives a chance to work together later. But i thought the world of him but the world of gm neela Ramon who was. Who was the president. And see the of the. Sami guilt team. I was really treated professionally there and absolutely loved. I wanted nothing more than to bring them a championship. Where you pressured when you entered the some when you enter the pba. Feel any pressure. At the time. I think you know when you're when you're a competitive. Nobody really puts more pressure on you than yourself and so i'm relentlessly on myself about what mistakes i made. I can come home after a win. And i you hear something. I've gotten good at it is. I don't read any media at all after my so i'll read it late But i don't read media in terms of what happened in our game. I evaluate that. I'll talk to other coaches. And such. But i would stay away from social media because that has a lot of people's feelings and i love those feelings after respect them but i also know that If you wanna be a professional sports coach you better be thick skin. Able to make your own decisions on. What you believe is best. And what's best for those guys i philippines. Get better at that for sure if you were given a chance to your stint in Broadly in the p how would you grade. Wow you know to create a would be a real interesting question bro. I i would say this. I wouldn't want to go into it being my third year as a head coach. yes The philippines has had such a a wonderful league such a league with history. I if i'm not if i'm not mistaken. It's the second oldest ligo the nba festival basketball league and it has so many fans that i love so much. I wish i would had maybe a little more experience of embiid a little bit older soup to deal with the social dynamics and some of the other parts that is the man. I wasn't as familiar with the basketball side is probably pretty cool on but I wish i could have been a little more experience as a human being to enjoy everything. I had around me to to accept that pressure in and to do my best at it. I look back at it with such wonderful memories. People that met the lessons. I learned credible It's you can't find league like the pba in this world you just can't and passionate have is immeasurable. And i'm so thankful for. A bush is a little more experienced. So i could navigate some things better. That's part of learning to be a coach. Yes and i take that. After the philippines you refer resurface. Greg may find wrong in vietnam As the national d. Met coach and of course for the hanoi befollows greg brick. So what were the challenges that you face when you were given the task to handle it those things. So why continue very specifically. I'll be honest. we go up. When i left the philippines i anticipated. I was I'm tight with a a a an ownership group here in the states. The we anticipated was about to purchase an nba team and Added respective them. I don't want good too many details but we thought was a done deal on more than one team is the backup plan second team. That was part of my departure in the philippines was very amicable with up Mr among with with all those guys who running is we. I thought i had something going. And it didn't come to fruition and so there was another a ownership group bought that team. And so i wait a little bit and i've got a couple of mentors out here. The whose advice. I rely on getting old men on pushing fifty at forty eight to the mentor. At this point. I was probably rely on. Also cats to give me some advice and they said listen. Eat it if it doesn't work out right now the you're gonna be a member of the nba's front office management. We wanna get your name back out there. So i had some context that he actually hit me up the were in the ap l. before so the current Current ceo connor win and he was The general manager of the saigon heat at the time. Okay so we knew one another when they were building a league out there He reached out to me and I i thought hey. This would be a real a cool endeavour to help build basketball in in vietnam now. Now inaba kiko. It was the least experience level. I've ever coached. So you want to start to podcasts. Or perhaps you've already started one but your sealant clear on how you can actually make this podcasting work no worries that's why we're here for you. We are guerilla. Podcast syndicate powered by kangaroo for media lab. Join our network. Contact us at info at kangaroo for dot com because rare stronger together so they didn't have the experience with the teaching that was normally familiar with but update what those fans were fired and they didn't know a thing about basketball and they were cheering their asses off and i really appreciated them. They were going nuts even though they really didn't know the nuances and i fell in love with so it was. It was a wonderful experience. It wasn't An elite level experience for basketball. But i love those people and those fans so if you were given a chance to be part you know off the teams that you handle before. Which team do you want to handle again. I mean hey man. That's a loaded question guilt team. One eighty-seven straight championships. Since i left could say that i wouldn't go june mar ardo ross and arwen sunk house. Sin yeah i think we were probably a couple of months away from doing some special but hey the man in me could not be happier for those guts and chris. Rawson i talk. I brought him there to semi gill when he was with another team and thought defense wins championships. And at the time i thought well this chris ross can't shoot a lick but he'll defend anybody on the court is my kind of guy now so yeah brought him over and now he can score he just do some scoring now and he and i remained friends for a long time but he's not the only one i love respect. Those guys They've had success that I'm so happy for guys. Like g avenue ila. Happy for leo. Who was an assistant coach for one. Year we've competed against one another There's a number of guys on that staff and team. That i'm just so i i can't wipe the small my face for as just the way. It is a for example. You were given another chance a site from san diego beer which deemed the be that you would love the end. Oh so here's the thing. As a coach. I guess when you do a podcast on struse's that i've been a hell of a lot better coach at bringing low level teams to the play offs competing for championship. Then i have as a coach. Who's coaching the most talented team. I think i probably had the most talented team there. In san miguel and We competed we. Were a couple of minutes away from a championship or two and immature. And so that's something that i've always known as a coach. I'm not. I need to get better at and i'll continue to work on that But i've looked at some of these other teams in the pda. Who i think. Have a player. two's good. But they may not be one of those big name teams. And i feel i feel for their fans and you and i both know. There's a certain group of teams tend to win an awful lot in peoria for me if i do it again or do something different. I would want to work with the team that never had those opportunities. The didn't necessarily have those resources and warned to come from. Maybe one of the teams have have won lesser games to be team that could compete is more in my neighborhood so basically you know looking back. I was wondering whoa yet. It was coach. Todd planted the seeds there. Remember designed mcgill due to rise above once again right well. I don't take that type of credit man. I think before when i took him over the previous year. They've gone about five hundred. Um we were able to to to to win some games but to be honest. We weren't able to get over the top until leo austria took over lee was able to get that team over the top and he deserves all the credit for because Yet you have to do the things it takes to win championships. And that's what he was able to do now If you're lb you know battling with international basketball now if you will be battling. The philippines are facing the philippines their national basketball which you have What would be your strategy against the team. Philippines have of during teams in a couple of different styles The last time i was in the philippines i was there with the wolf warriors. We managed to steal the win And it felt good for me. Because i got to see all my pals in the philippines and they at least knew that i still knew one or two things about basketball compete In the philippines was point they're really taken exponential steps above other southeast asian countries to be the dominant basketball team there They've got a number players who who were competing overseas and so. I'm not even sure that you look at it in those terms. You don't look at. How do i beat the philippines. I always look at it as how do we get better in if we get close to where the philippine team is. I'll decide how we try. And knock off a player or two here and there but at this point no the the the philippines in terms of southeast asian basketball are so inundated with talent relative to their competition. They don't think it. I think it's silly to try and figure out how you beat them. Maybe thailand's got a couple of good players You know vietnam. Gotten better. But still certainly the the philippines shoulders in terms of talent of the other southeast asian countries. It might have been. What do you think should the philippines do to improve it standing in asia. Well like what you said. Their head and shoulders above the competition in In southeast asia. But god they're drying or they're having our vendor like in the top stop by teams in asia. And of course you know you. You know what happened in the world championships. So what do you think. Should the philippines do to improve. Its performance in world basketball. So through a feel comfortable telling telling you this Just just we are independent podcast network. We are real podcasts syndicate. Would you like to hear your brand while supporting quality. Podcast contact us now at advertise at guerrilla podcast syndicate dot com coach. Two coach amanda minutes. You have to put your pride to the side and you have too many entities in the philippines that are pulling the best players in different directions. The philippines has the town. The fans have the passion. They've got the coaching skill. Set there to compete. On the highest level would would minor standing has been as that you have different entities pulling the best players in different wretches whether it's toward the national team whether it's toward a professional team that's owned by one set of owners or professional team it's owned by another set of owners. The bottom line is these these people in i think that have all the influence have to set their pride aside and say we want the best philippine players to compete for our country. And we don't give a darn of it. Means our local or professional teams suffers this year or next year we want to philippines be represented with the best filipino players. And i think when that happens and you get everyone on board in the same way they're going to be some other countries realize the proficiency and skill filipino basketball. Because it's a whole shitload. Talent is the whole bunch of passion and once all those best players in those coaches kind of come together You're going to have a whole 'nother level of product pitch putting out against the rest of the world. And i've just seen it. Sometimes i think you have. A couple of players aren't able to participate here. They're more coaches. who doesn't contribute because different factions. So get those things squared away. Sky's the limit row. Now before we we do have some questions you know just fast questions the that comes to your mind. It just You know say it. So who do you consider the best filipino. Blair right now. Aside from june mark fard took the word of mouth. You know i wanna say jordan clarkson zephyr ya. He has some blood so favorite sacramento kings player. When you were with the team before francisco garcia. He's the coolest dude you ever wanted. Me guys don't know about him. As much he controlled the locker room. He was the leader. He was funny. And it's one of those guys don't know behind the scenes is really the man. Francisco garcia favorite coach do match wits swim favorite coach through. You know the coach that would motivate you if you see his name esteem off. I want to look. Let me say first of all. I loved competing against tim cone. Who got the best of me He beat me in a championship series. We both had good teams. I think the world of his ability to coach And so i enjoy competing against him and respect him so much that being said my favorite guy to compete against a guy named kevin is because he is my good friend and we go out until the strokes. And i'm trying to kill me. Kill me have beards afterward and talks to each other and he. He's my favorite compete against. Although i wanna make sure that the filipino fans no in terms of competing against come i knew i was competing against illegal level coach the p. player that you have had a hard time planning for a defense build. A wii belco would pick in pop with our hearts. We'd have jamal june mar and loved june but both bill would pick and pop to the top of the key which meant i had to come up with a coverage that could make jumar so on a pick and roll and get back to bo and i swear to god by the shot thirty percent against every other team but fell. He shot seventy percent against us from three point range. He busted our ass and i hated coaching against him. Because he picking up any histories and it drove me nuts and easy coke and then he has this tendency you know to do. Have this pump fake. Who looked like it was slow motion all room and lay it up and it hurt my feelings so much respect to both belga and and and man he he kicked my ass and i respected so we have nba questions here. So i'm not sure if you've seen this This neem before beginning your three players you choose. Who will you blame. Who will you bench. Who will you cut. Kevin garnett john s or. Go line. evan. Garnett or go. I leonard orca. Why well tough. But think kevin garnett is a he's won championships. he's seven feet he's He's got those leadership type skills to so he's going to bring a little more table. Kawhi leonard is a ferocious defensive player. and i love defense. So certainly he ranks up there high but Any has won a championship. But there was something about kevin garnett. Now one of my best friends who coaches. now's name was rex. Calamian is the head assistant sacramento kings. He's he's with with the the clippers before that we doc rivers and you'll hear his name rex claiming as an nba head coach near in the next couple of years and he share with me some special memories about kevin garnett and a type of player that he was but more than that type of man that he was in the locker room and what he did for other players and so i guess. I'm a little bit biased. That having him share that with me. I know kind of what would have did for him. And that means something. Now jonah a hell of a player. They call him the greek freak for reason. But you gotta win. You have to win some things Before i'm gonna go ahead and put your net corner so yeah i'm gonna go guys who've won in because i've heard a couple of things i would slightly say garden on So it would be guard. netflix bench. Go i and got janice corrupt this. So let me tell you when i had when kawai came out coli was coming out of Sending state university. He was a power forward so he was a straightforward man. He was not didn't play on the wing in college. We brought him in for a workout. When i was in the nba. We worked him out and i really misjudged him. I'll be straight with thought. Well these a four man whose under-sized so he had not shutting any ability to play the perimeter. The way we the way he does now in pro obviously it appears a guy named gregg popovich thought that he could and knew more than i did so yeah. He ended up doing some things. But at the time we worked him out. We brought them in sacramento. I watched him over an nba workout and thought well. This guy is a good player but he just seems like an undersized four and i'm not too sure can play the perimeter. I was mistaken buddy. I was mistaken but is Russell shock or wilt. Well yeah i'm going with will you can't score hundred points. Yeah so i'll take well. I'll put shack engine out. Cut russ on that and unlike rust You know a story. A quick story about ross. Is that when i i had worked for. A coach named paul westphal own west of the paul was a mentor to me in the nba and he had coach charles. Barkley kevin johnson and dan marino's guys when they lost jordan in the finals and He was a mentor to me and so he was someone i really respected in. You'd mentioned before when he coached in college. Russell westbrook committed to come play for him. I wanna say it was pepper. Nine or lola marymount. It was the west coast school. And but that's the way the recruiting process works. Ucla had a guy who dropped out at the last minute rush. then left. Paul west falls commitment went to ucla. Instead that he made a play with. Darren collison as some real good players. But i'm paul was He was always sore about it because he's like an nba. Mvp come into play from the big west conference. But it didn't quite work out. Okay ray allen. Reggie miller steph curry. Yes steph steph. Just he's too much man he's off the triple. He almost changed. I i like i like reggie miller. He talked a lot of shipping. I enjoyed. he'll give it to the fans. He gave the choke to spike lee. That was look tainting. Yeah and and allen's hit big shots multiple teams. He with was the seattle supersonics back in day with the miami heat when he hit that shot in the corner. He's done so many things. But you know. I'm a northern california dude so steph curry's alleged out here and i think the world heaven you know i'll tell you. Another quick story is when we brought steph curry workout with sacramento kings. We into all yet. We brought a new with a number of other good guards. We brought a bunch of other good point guards in at the time. And including i believe week evans at the top and tyreek was too big for those gaps. So he was able to kind of use his size To blow to get to the rim and all and it didn't look as good for steph curry at the time but again you have to take those individual workouts the way you do with game film with a grain of salt and put them all together certainly steph. Curry was a lot better than we realized during an individual workout and ambassador for basketball. He's been i think the world of a c. so it would be blamed for curry. Will you bench rule where you come. Yeah probably cutting ray allen on that one. I dance man you know. Take it back. I think i'd keep reality. Cut reggie miller. Reggie miller would talk some trash to me. Outside as he left the left the building but Realities made too many. So i'd have to take verbal abuse from reggie miller and cut him okay About karl malone. Tim duncan and kevin garnett your tim. Duncan i'm a big. Tim duncan guy not only is he fundamental but his leadership skills. I've mentioned cagey earlier before some other personal context but Tim duncan was someone that i always looked up to at the time so it would be played for team. Who will you. Will you bench like what you hear so far. Make sure you never miss an episode by clicking on the subscribe button. Now this podcast is possible by listeners. Like you thank you for your support now back to the show. We'll keep tim probably put Cagey on the bench to ag funded. Have to listen to curse out from the bench that might be adjustment. I had to make okay so About this have the point guards. So abbas steph curry steve nash. Jason kidd that took. I used to watch jason kidd when i was a kid. So i'm out here in california. Jason kidd played up here in oakland california. The point guard was dumping. On god's so i watched him. I got a couple of years on but not too much. I watched him in high school. just be a monster at the point guard. Position sills really cool. Bet being said. Nobody made the game easier for teammates and more fun to watch than steve nash. In my opinion he was a nightmare to prepare for the nba. He made every player around him better. Those guys left. The phoenix suns teams to go make huge salaries somewhere else. All portion of it. The steve nash to up their numbers before they sign those contracts. Because those teams used to beat the hell out of us when i was in sacramento and steve. Nash was the reason bro. And that good. So it would be played for nash. Will you bench. Who was your gun. Gertie or kim. Oh my word torture. I guess i i guess to say you'd bench. Jason kidd makes me a fool. But i guess that's where i'd have a bench and shoot. Yeah as provide the way. I go okay so we have lasso odd. Lebron kobe michael jordan lebron james to me and i know i'm an older dude so a bunch of dudes going gonna tell me. Count your traitor. 'cause 'cause jordan was the man and he didn't look and i feel i really do but a athletes these days get bigger faster stronger. More athletic more knowledgeable. They just do. So while. I love michael jordan and he was the ultimate competitor. Michael jordan i think was about six six to twenty five. Yes sixty s. Those are ozone basketball measurements. Which means you're six five to fifteen. Do you know how we like to exaggerate. Those measurements lebron james. About six eight to seventy and. I've spoken with players. Try to guard him. Who just toby. He's just too big and strong to athletic. So at this point as big a fan of michael jordan and you can't you say a guy who goes six for six championships finished second. I just think today's athlete is better than yesterday's athlete and So yeah lebron james to me is the ultimate eeking guard all five positions. He could play off. I've he could lead the league in assistant. Wanted to quite frankly. I think if he really put his mind to score the lead the league in rebounds you have type of player. I think he is and so. Yeah i give the nod to lebron james. That doesn't mean a new school guy part right now in the nba. Has you know restart do Started last december What do you think will win the nba championship for twenty twenty. Twenty one will It's gonna be tough the lakers. I would assume go back. And you know brooklyn just made a trade. So they've got some real superstars on that team. But i don't think that's That's how you win. So i i think someone else comes from the east other than brooklyn despite their superstars. I think you'd be looking at maybe. The lakers against the celtics I look at team. I think the celtics did with i look at teams. We're gonna play defense. Ultimately i think brad stevens is a big defensive coach I know people talking about milwaukee of. They're certainly talented name. Put up points but be careful teams. Who locked down on defense in the postseason. It's why the toronto raptors lung because the toronto raptors had like five all defensive guys on the prize when they won and i was telling mother. Coaching friends like this is no surprise. We keep saying defense wins championships. But if you don't really believe it then it is what it is so when toronto raptors and kawhi leonard insurgent baca in Arkansas tuna blank on the point. Guards name Top lowry kyle lowry. You talking about guys. Who the best defensive players in their position and ultimately i think that's what gives you an opportunity to to win championships in the defensive side of the ball. So i mean. Do you plan to do to go to the nba as part of the coaching staff or front office or your focus right now in you know In coaching in asia should not necessarily to go back to the nba. Of my time. There i got to experience everything that the that the coach is doing works and it was a great part of my coaching experience. If i were to go back to the nba at this point i would want to be in a management position in a scouting position in a position to actually brings international player In helps develop it in a global sense for an nba team. I would. I don't have interest in necessarily coaching nba. I would prefer to do that overseas. So i like. I like a head coach. I like being able to be in charge of the personnel. Because i think that's really important for ed coach especially overseas To be in charge of the personnel is a big deal so My aspirations are to continue. Enjoy this ride. And i wish it was a little more Specific or direct than that for you man. But i don't know what the next thing brings. I've been contacted by some other pouches about being the national team. Head coach coaches on countries. Been too so. I'm just gonna ride the wave as best can in trying to create the relationships that have been beneficial to me in life. 'cause i don't remember the wins and losses nearly as much as i remember the guys that that i grinded with. Okay so one last question before the message. Your orders Of course you know. The basketball is somehow religion in the philippines and of course they're still dreaming That one day. A pure bred a pure filipino Full blooded we'll be able to play in the nba and of course right now we do have one in nba. Ge richest guide saw What do you think should guide due to be able to go to be able to play in the nba. Because as far as i know he's standing seven three and then but he has slim brain or his. So what should i do to improve or to be able to play in the nba. You start at the nail on the head. Peco's number one. His frame is to slip. He has to commit to a physical sense to the game. If you want to be able to compete with guys on on the highest level in anything in the world you better be willing to sacrifice some of the things. I talked about with my players. Sacrifice means doing the shit that you don't want to do so the things that you like are cool to get better but if you really want to become a better player gotta do the things that you may not enjoy as much and so he needs to get into weight room. He's getting the weight room. He needs to gives nutrition right. And and i think that's part of it so being seven three and skilled like years is wonderful. I man's got some skill and he can do some things he has to commit to getting his body right whether he likes it or not whether whether they're lifting weights makes you feel uncomfortable with eating certain types of food. You don't care for as much you have to sacrifice to get your body right. And then i think he has to get his mind right as well and getting your mind right if you're going to compete in the nba or higher level means almost putting chip on your shoulder. You need to come in with the mentality. this aggressive that is Unflappable that you know. I belong here. I'm a professional player or anyone. Who's in my way in. Just catch it. I'll give them thirty him in the mouth with an elbow. I'll do what it takes in. So i think now that being said i've seen that mentality and filippini's that is not a mentality lacking amongst my filipino. Forensics these cats love a physical brand of basketball. I remember having conversations with our one son tells about physical basketball and my man was right on the edge. He was up to hit anyone anywhere. If it meant getting extra rebound. And i love that about him. I respect that about him. So i think chinese to take on a little bit more filipino. Mentality about what it takes to be grimy would it takes to be physical and that will So those are the two things he certainly skilled enough. He's got the size enough. I'd say committing to his nutritional weight room in more specifically taking on new orleans santos filipino grimy mentality. That says whomever. I'm on court with might get hit in the neck if i have to get rebound. That's the way guys in. Nba gonna respect him Even if they're the ones who get hit in the neck they're going to be the ones that respect him. 'cause this can't go in soft brother. You can't go in expecting anyone to give anything to you so he needs to give a little thicker a little more physical. And he's the call arkansas about some tricks so Before the end the message supporters and the people who look up to you. You know defected. You'd even say there were some fans. When he looked up to me. i loved him with all my heart. I appreciate the filipino fans. So much gave me so much love. When i was there the the way i speak about filipino basketball when i'm talking here in the nba or the guys heaters that anyone. Here's i talked to knows. How much of the filipino. People appreciate basketball competed in. It's a real honor and a pleasure to have ever performed in front of them And i appreciate you too. 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The NBA from Andy Bernstein's Viewfinder

The Showtime Podcast with Lakers Legend Coop

53:56 min | 1 year ago

The NBA from Andy Bernstein's Viewfinder

"Coop you looking good man. I Never Ari I know this guy for thirty years. That never changes how he looks. At Hair Bet Online dot. L.! Welcome to Joe's time with. Insight for BS with my Laker teammates, an NBA friends and today we have somebody. Come try to cover all sides of of the NBA. By very beer special to me. Andrew Bernstein and I'm to read a little bit about 'cause Andrew doing my background. Working I found out a lot about you. Good Looking Guy and Craig travel. Substance to you man and grew up in. Brooklyn New York. Was the average sports fan. And one thing I love about you got to the Art Center College of Design in Pasadena California your hometown. There was something that I loved about. Some of his A. Non Commercial, projects, he worked on with Pepsi coca-cola reeboks. Adidas icy hot when you were shocked when he's doing that. So I love that and his first, and let you get into yourself a little bit, and do some laying the groundwork for you. His first NBA job was shooting a nineteen eighty three all star game number one Marvin Gaye sang the national anthem exactly. Yes, fouls, yeah! Welcome welcome, welcome everybody. The Great Andrew Birth. You probably have seen his work Pat Piper plastered over. Everything has to do with the NBA Welcome and book before we get started. How are you in the families on? Hey, you know what cooper. Hanging man, it you know this pandemic has. been tough on everybody. have a twelve year old at home, and her sixth grade got interrupted and I haven't taken a picture since March eleventh. Saddam Do it, but my wife's been able to work from home and other kids are good, so thank God. I'm not going on. Would you know you know that everybody's healthy and? We're going to get through this and ride out the storm. You mean you're not like chasing your kids around the house taking pictures of them with your cavity lights and. No it's funny, because my my daughter. My twelve year old is. Has actually taken up photography and she's taken a class the next two weeks, and she's learning it and a really taken to. It must be something DNA I don't know, but. The one thing I've said about this covert situation we're going through is very. Happened, but always trying to find the silver lining and things and I think to our busy day and schedule and work before this hit. We were worried about the you know. I'm doing my job as far as coaching. My wife was working at fair plaques. My son was going to school, so it's very rare that we had opportunity to see each other even. Even if it was for dinner and I. Think what this thing has done is brought more sense of family back to us. You get to see your kid. You get to spend time with you get to talk to. You got to have dinner with a in some cases you wake up in the morning. Have Breakfast you get to go to church or Or religious beliefs whatever it is, it gets to be done as a family. I think that's the most important thing that I've tried to grasp on this whole craziness. Yes, CRAZY COOP! I mean I am never home this time. A year I mean thirty eight years in a row I've been you know from the middle of April to the middle of June I've. I've been on the road or God willing. If the Lakers were in, you know as long run in the playoffs, a drought for a while, but you know home for a little bit, but you know my mind and my whole attention is on my nba work, you know the playoffs are long haul. You remember to two solid months of playoffs and. So my wife looked over me like sometime. You know the end of April early May. She said you still home. Supposed to be like in. Houston or someplace yellow. Yeah And one more horn through for you. If Andrew has been the team photographer for ten professional teams, with which has one championship basketball the Lakers. Eighty, seven, eighty, eight, two, thousand, two, thousand, one, two, thousand to two, thousand, nine, two, thousand, ten, with the dodgers in nineteen, Eighty, eight, with the as in two, thousand, twelve, two, thousand fourteen. How many how where do you put all your championship rings? I got home, very. Bill Russell impression I'm kidding I. Only got a few rings. Cope I didn't get any rings back with you or play it and. Get a rain. We got a gripe for genie. Bustan. You GotTa Get your rings, man. I respect it, and in fact that you know you need to be an employee, and then on the payroll, and all that stuff I get it. And but the one that sticks in my cry got to be honest with his I didn't get a dodger in eighty eight net. Bother me man because. We Ne- and John Su. Who My friend who you you know? We worked our tails off season and. Anyway! That would have been Nice but I. I got rings from From, the first Shack Kobe three peat. You know and then I think I got a ring from two, thousand, nine or ten so? And you grow Brooklyn and your family was dodgers. Fans right, so I mean right right the whole eighty-eight thing. Probably it was probably bigger, too because I'm sure your family was like. Where's your regular like I? Get One! Yeah, I know it was kind of a crazy like Phil. Jackson full circle thing because they would die hard Brooklyn dodger. Fans I, mean insane. I wasn't even allowed as a kid and I collected baseball cards like we all probably did right I wasn't allowed to bring a Yankee baseball card in my house. Now, this is a true. Tuesday tell you this story. I never told the story in public. So my dad great, you know huge, sports fan. Probably eight or nine years old about nineteen, sixty, four, sixty, five I'm collecting cards like crazy. I had traded half of my collection for a Mickey Mantle Card Right. And I go. excited. I go in the House and said. I got this incredible cargoes. Yeah, really who's on it. I said I said Mickey Mail. TRADE HALF BY CLICKING GOES REALLY CAPRI PENALTY. Let me see that and he looks at it and he goes. Oh. He goes. Don't ever blink. Bring anything with that expletive logo in my house ever again. True Story Ju- story. A! Sports Fan, so that's the next move for you I. Mean What what brought you to? Photography you know coop, I started doing it in high school I had a good friend who had a darkroom in his basement and the first time I saw a picture of print develop in the solution. It just blew. My mind is really a magic trick. Honestly and I was hooked and Mike High School into big high school in Brooklyn. I did a lot of photography. They're always had a camera with me. That was kind of the thing that anyone saw me i. had a camera attached to me? You know so I was shooting for the we had a newspaper. We had a yearbook. All that stuff the theater department whatever Athletic Department then went the University of Massachusetts and went to umass where Dr J. played by the way, and we were a division one AA. We're not very good, but it was a great place to kind of test. The waters of being a photo journalist because we had a daily newspaper there and it was a very prestigious college paper, actually and I learned. Learned everything about covering assignments ended up being the photo editor, giving out assignments and working on deadline and all different aspects you know news feature sports, whatever and but I wasn't learning like the craft of photography and the real science. I ended up going to pass to Pasadena Pack my bags. Middle of the seventy eight blizzard back in coast ended up in La. This eighty four degrees I said I've never go back and. was, started. Arts Center in. The Spring of seventy eight. And from there I was introduced to some great sports illustrated photographers, guys who shot you you in the guys back in the showtime era and I learned this technique of a putting these big strobe units in the ceiling into the catwalk at especially at the forum, and had some Brooklyn Moxie You know a little bit of I knew how to work the system, and they got my foot in the door with the foreign people all the same people that you remember coup and Jeannie took me under her wing and shooting all the other sports for her. The the indoor soccer and We had roller hockey and and tennis and volleyball and stuff. But the stroke-technique really got me in the door, and cut the attention of the NBA and my first Gig was the eighty-three all star game at the form that was my first Gig for the NBA nabbed in Thirty Eight All Star game since thirty eight VINYLS I. Helped create NBA Photos in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, six and couple years ago, they decided somehow to stick me in the hall of fame. I. Don't know why, but you know. It's been a slow slow year, but. It's been a great run. You know and it all started way back in high school when I just saw the magic of what I would, I could create a my head. Be Really come out through my camera and then come out as print or a photograph, which really just blew my mind. Get talking about that little stroke thing. You said Mike Number Printer broke, so I'm going to show you. A wife, but are you talking about something like that? Yeah, yeah, there. You could get that high above the air shot right. Yeah, this is this is one of my favorite hockey. Shots that was. The Two Thousand Twelve Cup final kings against New Jersey we are actually in new, Jersey and I do these crazy angles as you know all over the place, and for hockey that straight down into the crease areas, always super cool and that's fired by remote, but that I have, and it's a pretty involved intricate system, but when you get a shot like that Jonathan Quick spread-eagle and all. Action going on. That's the kind of that's the money shot I love that picture. That's what I was going to ask. How how do you get that money shot I mean. have to position yourself, or are you just pushing it? And letting the cameras shoot shoot, shoot shoot, and and then you go through and look at that one well. No, because because of this strobe system that I use I'm limited only be able to take one picture every four seconds I can't have a motor drive. I can't look at a sequence of pictures in this. Pick one out of the middle. You know you're going up for a coupon loop. Time that to be at the apex of when you're going to catch it or dunk it right magic coming down. You know doing fifteen moves before you even know what's going to happen. It's going to pass over here. He's GONNA, look! They're past their. Who knows go straight to the RIM, so you have to learn? The tendencies of all the players that you that you shoot all the time. It takes some time obviously and and you have to time it and you have to be lucky. Sometimes you have to get the moment you know and and really anticipated. Be maybe a millisecond ahead in your mind. So going from way above to wait. This No. Shot this is the craziest show I ever did. Coop so I was working for Reebok doing a lot by the way a lot by this. Is that you ever? Hear this story. I'm working for Reebok. Shooting all of shacks endorsement stuff was great or Landau in his early years and continued into L. A.. and. My job is is to sort of piggyback on a big commercial production. You know it's a big video production and is still part of it when I do which is important because they have to. They have to get a national print campaign out of what I produce, and sometimes I comes from doing production stills like shooting, as they're shooting the commercial, but I always have like a backdrop set off on the side and tried to grab the athlete, Shack you know it was not easy to get. 'cause shack had the downtime between a shot being set up or at lunch, you know. Know he he wanted to chill. You didn't want to have to do something else so I'd have to grab him of the socio producers, somebody and I'd get five minutes with them. You know so the idea behind this was they wanted this shot from underneath showing the the shoes, the gigantic -ness of the shoes, and then shack as well, and of course the Reebok logo, so we built this very elaborate stage that was about four feet off the ground, and the top of the stage was a four inch thick piece of plexiglass. Right, so I am position under I'm laying down under. Super Wide Angle Lens. It's all lit from from all over the place, the exact way about three sixty right? Yeah, exactly so the the sky thing was put in later because the whole background was just a white background, and anyway so he walks up, and he looks at the thing, and you know shack I mean he's GonNa. Look for something right and laying under there, and he gets up on the stage, and I position him again him how I want and I had assistant helping me, and he goes you ready I. Said Yeah I'm ready, man. He goes okay. Get this and he started jumping. Three hundred and sixty pounds, man and my life was like flashing in front of me. We're they get like I. I must term like white as a sheet of the. He's laughing and. Ed Keep in mind. I got like five minutes to do this. This is important. I just flipped out and I started screaming. And then afterwards I, Got the, picture, and the whole thing and. I dude weighed. Scare the shit out of me like that. Because because I know I can't. Andy. You know what that's. What made it even more amazing, Scott, where the size twenty four Oh my God to be able to. Finish face Internet shot. and. It's crazy when you do issue like that. You have to have a stand in. You have to have a model who is the same basically the same size same skin tone. But you can't find anybody with size twenty three twenty four shoes. Possible so I had the stand in who is probably was probably about six ten, maybe was maybe two, eighty, five, three hundred. You know we did the best we could, but he put those actual shoes on so I would be able to frame the picture and know that when shack on in there. At least the shoes would be right, but then there's the whole issue of having everything in focus you know and the lighting being right and it was. It was quite the. Experience Oh. and He. You shot so many people. Is there anybody that you have not photograph that you wish you could? Yeah. There's a lot of people man I i. never got to shoot Tiger Woods. I never got to shoot Michael Phelps. I never got the Derek jeeter when he played because I. Interesting to you from our that Kimberlin's well. These are the icons of of each of those sports, so as a photographer and a young photographer I I always wanted to get like the greats would travel in just to get pictures of Reggie Jackson. You know or John elway go to Denver. Just so I knew I had John elway pictures, and I was selling pictures back then sort of a mini stock agency. But but you know these guys have that sort of Mamba mentality like Kobe. Had you know they? They have that sort of. Next level of greatness, and as a photographer as a journalist, you just want to kind of be in that world, and be able to record it and have that as part of your archive. Great. Shock that I love talking about this one here Andy. This is a fun assignment. Man This was. yao-ming. His rookie year I signed by ESPN magazine to follow him for two weeks just to be a fly on the wall. The assigned a writer who you might know ric. Bucher was the writer and for two weeks. Just basically live with Yao. Redid what and it was early in the in the season, it was like December. Something and he was great. Super Gracious one of the nicest guys I've ever met. And this was a similar situation to. He was filming a cell phone commercial for Chinese Cell Phone Company. We're of course tagging along. And I'm just shooting behind the scenes who went ever and it was in a gym that had a balcony that what around it like a track kind of thing? Balcony like the old New York Athletic Club colleague? So I went up there to just get some straight down sort of looking above shots, and I saw this rim, and then I i. See I see how and I'm thinking. If I position him just right I could get him in the in the rim, and they already had the lighting setup from the commercial, so I yelled out to, but he was in between shots and a kind of. A out a turn around. And he's like what. Turned around and he saw what I was trying to do. So I brought him in position and got that shot, and he loves that shot by the way he told me and the Do you have whenever you working with anybody per there there? Do you have that shot in your mind's eye? That you WANNA? Get that shot down I mean. Are you seeing that what you want to see before the actual shot yet? Most of the time in a situation like this? Yes, I mean I definitely saw this I didn't see how dramatic it would actually be there. This is not been retouched in any way shape or form that lighting on his face was perfect. How the way the rim kind of falls off and focus and the lighting, and you know with the threads going through You know photographic -ly. This thing just lays out so well and Yeah I'm super proud of that, but yes, in in most cases coup by half to be because God bless you guys I. Love you guys, but you guys have no patience right so. And you want to hear me. Really really, good. I remember a couple of sparks photo shoots where you're like man. Let's call. We got stuff to do. Women so that kind of. Women. Yeah, that's probably true, although Lisa always needed to have her makeup, right? We've ever that yeah. I love her for that I. Do but I learned very quickly, guys that. Had, magic, the very first thing I, did with magic off the court, and he was doing a converse Ed saint same thing he's doing a commercial. They bring me in to be the still guy, and then I have to produce a poster of him. You know which they knew what they wanted. And I had the whole thing set up, York director was there and magic comes in in between. They would like resetting cameras and stuff and he you know magic is super friendly and back in the day in order to see what our lighting was like and the positioning, and what the end result would be, we would take a polaroid as you remember. Recoup and I go to take polaroid. Imagine? What are you doing and I said I'm taking a polaroid he goes. When I come in, you said you don't do Polaroid's. You'll be ready. Oh swear to God. I looked at he goes. Yeah, you'll be ready. Okay, was he serious I swear to? God never took a polaroid of him again. Ever serious. He was serious. Yeah, he thought that that was wasted. Take sixty seconds with the polaroid to develop. And he will concur with he and I talked about this podcast right and he laughed because yeah us, either you're ready. You're not ready and if you're not ready, don't waste my time. Were you with them or in that scene with him and birds? They got together and you know how that commercial. Pictures were you available? I wish that is like one of the few me earlier. You know who I hadn't shot athlete wise. That's one of the shoots I wish. I had been on I i. knew about that shoot. You know is done in French lick, so they sent somebody from the East Coast, but if I I really should have pushed to be on that because that was. Such a historic legendary shoot would have loved to have been part of that. And you obviously covered the Dream Team to Did you know I was that. For you your greatest memory, and did you know at the time? Just how incredible that that how influential that moment would be in terms of basketball. Yeah, I think we all felt it because that team was announced. And you saw the personalities on that team and the quality of talent. Is Truly I mean I? Don't know if there's a word beyond Dream Team, but it was like the pinnacle is like a hall of fame. Dream Team. Future Hall of Famers so I. Knew is going to be a a great assignment. I didn't know it'd be that. Great of an assignment honestly was seven weeks with these guys from day, one and training camp in San Diego. up to the tournament. America's in Portland and then Monaco for training camp, and then of course, the Olympics in Barcelona, so I was with them every single day and I always say that you know if it was a different time in my life and career, I would have retired after that assignment because it never got better than honestly, it was such a great experience and just to be. Be a fly on the wall with these guys and be part of this historic moment and the way it elevated the NBA in the world. You Know Rick Welts who help to create that whole experience and be part of elevating everything at the NBA said that the NBA grew ten years in that one summer it did because it catapulted the NBA throughout the world to be what it became. So they? Could you tell your wife that being around that Dream Team? You know they had those very well talked about poker nights. 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No I never played in those, but I got to tell you we. We did stay in a hotel in Monte Carlo Lowes Hotel, which was a beautiful elegant hotel in Monaco. And had a casino obviously in it. And I sitting down, my dad was with me. I brought my dad and my dad had taught me how to play Blackjack, and we're sitting at a table that look over news Patrick. Ewing on my left. Is Charles by right Michael Coke sits out, and my dad's like we right table. It was hilarious because Patrick God blessed Patrick is playing the minimum rate Charles. Charles has a stack of chips like this. Right and Michael just asking for markers tonight. Buddy. The craziest thing ever. Most was gambling on that the Dream Team. Magic? Well No! No I gotTA. Tell you story about magic. He again. We talked about this, so we're in this elegant casino. Right? I mean. It's like out of James Bond. The dealers are in Tuxedos. They have the servers. All the waitresses are in evening gowns. You have to you have be an jacket entitled the in there. It's not like Vegas where you hear slot machines and hooping, and hollering, going on at craps, tables and stuff, and they had one crap table, and maybe maybe like six blackjack, tables and docker. docker on stuff. I didn't understand right and we're in there, and it's super late at night must have been about one thirty two o'clock in the morning, and we hear behind us at Blackjack with my dad, and we hear behind us the crap table. People are hooting and hollering right which you don't hear in this place, and we turn around, and they are like six people deep at this crap table all elegantly dress and his little old lady right beautifully. Attired with jewelry and she's rollet numbers after at hidden points, coming out with sevens and people are making money, so somebody must have called magic. This is not true story. Somebody must have call magic dude comes down from his room in his bathrobe. Right to this casino gets a marker. Bets with the lady. Collects whatever he got goes back goes back to bed. Never touches the dice. Never never puts money at the table was the craziest seed ever? And I can attest to that because remember how we saw the Exhibition Games in Vegas Yeah one one night we were down magic because I can't guys who are going to go down and we're GONNA. Do the dice. Would near Magic Byron I was there I think Danes where they couple of other people and some people from the other team. We were there. We won twenty settled I one twenty seven hundred money. I've ever won. In Vegas Shares Twenty, seven hundred magic must want about ten thousand all the crap table, and he only tests the dice one time. Yeah, I mean all. Magical and lucky this guy is that's what it is called magic. This guy whatever he touches turns to go when. I left because. God bless bed to have that kind of run. That was that was legendary legendary. Shooting let's go back to the eighties real quick. Tell me something some of your best shots, and I don't have any, but tell me some of the best moments of shooting at Boston laker rival man you know coop. We all live for that, and I mean to see you. Guys suited up against the hated Celtics and I hated to sell I. Shouldn't I can't say that in any other? Even my own podcast, but I hated him to. You know I was. Saying go ahead. I was supposed to be somewhat impartial. You know yes. The Lakers quote unquote team photographer, but it's working for the League. So you know you gotta be impartial, but then Everything was so different. You go into Boston Garden. It's a dump you know, and they don't have any air conditioning in his rats in the catwalk truth, another true story got chased by a rat in the catwalk there all the locker the roadblock. The I'd love this shot. And, but the rivalry was just off the chart I mean every game every play. Even the regular season games when you guys only played each other twice once in the forum you know, we all circled that in rid you know in the calendar came out. The schedule came out in August. Is always like the second Sunday in February that you guys played each other right at the forum, but it was amazing. I mean. I have to give a lot of credit to. The NBA for trusting me and putting me in the position as a young photographer to document that whole era, but also to pat. Riley for a lot of confidence in need, be around the team and Gary. who? Was the gatekeeper as you know I mean you know Gary. Gary's Locker Room Gary Training Room. If he didn't allow me in there. You know I would have been on the outside looking in so always be grateful to Gary and then just just the story lines the story every single I. mean the Guy Behind you. Korean begins parish. You know of course Magic Against Bird, but you and your defensive. You know if we if they didn't say we if they didn't have you, you know they wouldn't have won any titles in eighty, five or eighty seven because. No because everybody knew that you know and. Everybody had their role and PAT. You know I know I'm preaching to the choir, but. Pat Really that was his skill his. He knew what each of you brought to the table. He guys to buy in on the team concept and It wasn't like. Leave your egos at the door. He was like bring your egos in, but putting them together in this big bowl because we're GONNA kick some S. You're great. Next one is the Lakers at a year was the late ninety two now the Lakers versus the Sacramento Kings Oh. Yeah, yeah, that was great series because he had also had blahdy on the other side right and Sacramento was insane place to to play I'm sure but for me to work. It was it was a glorified like High School Gym. I mean the place was horrible. Terrible member that they built an Arco Arena. You know first of all the king's moved from Kansas City to Sacramento. Build this arena, which was like a warehouse right in the in the middle of the Cornfield. Know where? They decide like ten years in you know at this place isn't so great to build another one. They built one. That was worse. I mean like the second. Arco Rita was worse than the first one. Is Right next door didn't make any sense, but I remember Phil Jackson. There was no coaches like office and he would have to go underneath the stands like do this little trap door a couple of minutes to himself. There was no training room. What dump that was, but the rivalry was great, right? It really was and. You know. I think shack calling them the Queen's right. I love that. Those. Arab Chris Webber I mean who else was on that team and Bobby Kersee in those days Doug Christie. That was a good run. When the Lakers and the celtics come back all way around with pen, and Garnett and players like that. Yeah, well, I mean. I felt like I was reliving history in a way because the rivalry never never died I mean you know the last time the teams played each other was eighty seven, but the rivalry was always there of course and. Kobe Kobe was. Had A lot on his shoulders. I mean yeah, this picture two thousand eight This is two thousand nine finals and he. He knew that he was carrying the team. You know shack it left. A lot has been written about him. even his own coach wrote about him about being uncomfortable and. There's a lot riding on it. He was not particularly healthy that season you remember. And but he took the team on his back and was committed in that in two thousand eight. This is two thousand eight You know to beat the Celtics. They didn't beat the Celtics It was, it was tragic, reminded me a little bit coop of eighty four. Where Ha it could. They could have beaten them, but they didn't. They just didn't have enough in the. Celtics had the big three. And they seem to be sort of destined to win that final but I remember after that Kobe talked about how he just couldn't retire until he beat the Celtics in the finals. I mean guy would probably play another ten years. Into his fifties. And then they got the shot in two, thousand, ten, and and he he was true. His word you know they. He went out and. They got it done, and that was his fifth title of all the players you would relationships with over the years is Kobe. The guy you were closest with and I hope you'll share the story when he met Kobe. Yeah! I think so I think Probably because I was around him the most but also because there was, there was a lot of synergy between us I mean. I met him as a young kid? You just turned eighteen years old. You know you've got drafted when he was seventeen, he comes on my set. As a rookie and like any other rookie. On Media Day I go introduce myself and I, you guys probably heard the story, but I like I delegate scrum and I go in the set, and before I start shooting, I put my hand out I say beyond I'm Andy. Burns him your Lakers team. Photography looks me straight in the eye and he goes lies. Still shake my hand. He goes. He says yeah. I know who you are. And I'm thinking I'm talking to. One of my kids is kind of smart as you know like. I said no I. Don't think so because we never met. He goes yeah, but I had all your posters in my room up. Wow, and right there and he had me in that second. Because I'm thinking who on Earth looks at the photo credit on a poster. Only other photographers look at. You can't even read a photo credit unless you have like a magnifying glasses, something and you know this is a guy who broke down. The Pixel every inch of a poster and studied it. You know of all the grades Jordan Magic and and Dominique and Isaiah, and all the guys that he you know he wanted to be like so we and I saw in him on twenty years older, but I saw a lot in him at that age eighteen and nineteen and twenty that that reminded me of myself at that age incredibly driven. Somewhat arrogant. Won't take no for an answer pushing the envelope and. You know Kobe had a great saying. It's very publicly said that he said that. If you're not obsessed with what you do, we don't speak the same language you know. And we talked about this much later when we did our book that that we were speaking the same language from the beginning to completely different upbringings and the whole thing, but but we were just as obsessed with what we did, and that's kind of what brought us together. Love that story and Worth the point now. The show I have what I call couth lightning rounds. We can put you get. You cooped up. Oh, boy, I give you some names. And just give me of one word or a little little bit about the names of. Don't throw at you. Okay? Yeah, for sure. This first one is Burg Magic. The first word is rivalry. But. It's also use a few words visit definition of an era I mean David Stern himself told me that that picture you showed helped define that era of the NBA. You know, and for your boss like your alternate boss to tell you that was the ultimate compliment. Really so that that would be my two two part answer to that would wow. You stole my next person and I was GONNA. Say David Stern. Mentor. David was tough to work for sometimes because he was, he demanded greatness. He demanded a relentless. Just being at at the top level of what you did, and I took that very personally. You know in a good way. It motivated me. Push me I love being part of what the NBA was creating in the eighties and nineties and He was always recognized effort. You know he he would always reach out. And sometimes you get a personal note in the mail. You know after the finals now it would be an email, but he would literally send notes in the mail and You know it was always on pins and needles when I had to be assigned to be with David, only because he didn't WANNA screw up. But you know back in the early days, guys. We used to literally call him. Uncle David I mean it was a small little family. The NBA back then back in the early mid eighties when he became commissioner and it grew like crazy, but I stopped calling David started calling him Mr Commissioner. But I'd never lost that feeling that and very familiar. Very friendly You know almost a family atmosphere at continued throughout his whole career there. You know what I knew Mr Stern. Not, well as you did, but he kind of reminds me of like pat, Riley attention to detail He wanted that that kind of focusing on play people around him. Yeah, and he was not shy about Colin. People out. You know when they weren't living up to what his standards would be There's still a lot of famous stories about that. And as a boss. He's running a giant corporation. By the time it grew to be what it was worldwide, and he had put people in place that he and he was a great evaluator of talent You know look at the people around him. Rick, welts. You Know Russ. Granik Gary Bettman. Brian McIntyre Terry Lines of all these people that you know Don sperling. NBA Entertainment, and then our our core group of videographers, some photographers, and then you know there's a reason why a lot of us are still there. It really was because of what David and his vision wasn't when he created. K. And I've done my homework on you. I N Pierce. Wait say it again Ryan Pierce Ryan. Photographer Oh man. I don't know Ryan peers. I do not know right years. I know a lot of photographers. Really okay all right. You cooped up now renamed. Martin! Bob Martin is fantastic photographer. Mostly Forget in sports illustrated right I don't know Bob personally the outlet, but his work speaks for itself and a long long history of of being the top of his profession. I don't personally if it's like Google. And last, but not least, and and as I say bird magic. You can't say these two young men without almost putting them together Jordan Kobe. I would say the word is relentless. Could both of them really I mean? We just saw in the last dance. How insanely relentless Michael Jordan was right almost to a fault some some cases but You, know He. He never stopped. Wanting to be great and achieving. Better than he was case in point when when the Bulls were getting, beat up by DETROIT, every year right, and then he just decided. You know what I gotta get bigger and stronger, so he brings Tim Grover in he. His body completely changes that summer man and comes back. You know ripped and ready to go and look what happened. They made it to the finals at year. Kobe the same way I mean. They both have like shared sort of a of of this sort of intangible. Mamba thing you know And what was so poignant, was when Michael spoke at Kobe's memorial and you could. You could just see the connection between the two of them. Oh yeah that whole experience I gotTa. Tell you I mean I had photograph that and they had offered to photograph it I. Actually was was offered to me to just be part of the audience. Like I had in that situation. I had to photograph it, and that would keep my sort of emotions at bay if I'm behind the camera, just concentrating on work, but when he got up. To speak and all of them actually but especially when Vanessa got up to speak. I I don't think any of none of us knew twenty thousand people in the arena and millions watching. No one knew she was going to speak. I've known her over the years I've never heard her speak. Publicly like in a long period like that and the strength that that took man. Wow, and she and she admitted very openly that she got that strength from him. She learned that from him and how you know his relentlessness You know permeated all over from off the court to their family You know nothing will ever come close to the the shock and grief of that January and we still all carry it with us, but we're very fortunate really to have lived in his world for at least that brief time. One last thing for me. This picture here and. Yeah, that picture they're talking about that one. Well a lot of people coop asked me like. If you know you had one picture to be remembered, for, which would it be in? My answer is always well have four kids. I can't really choose one of them I. Mean Sometimes I one. Choose one over the other quite frankly but. But in terms of photos that would be the one I mean. That was such an incredible moment and I'm sorry. It came at the expense of of you. Guys in the Lakers but that was Jordan winning first title and ninety one. Yeah, and it took him seven years to get to that mountain top. And He's got his dad next to him, and we all know the story of his dad. Tragically. You know passing away getting murdered. and Michael Will. It's interesting because there's a Lotta backstories here. Michael's Dad. James and my dad got to know each other during the whole Dream Team experience. Michael had this thing with his dad. I had this thing with mine I was just like an unsaid kind of back story. But this was such a crazy moment and I'll tell you about it. 'cause you know. Coop will remember this. You know like it was yesterday, but the forum. The visitor's locker room in the form was literally like a glorified closet I. Mean it was tiny, terrible tyranny now trying to fit like twelve full grown men in that room like impossible right so back in the day before the NBA and the network did the trophy presentation on court they would do it in the locker room, right in the visitor's locker room and the home locker room and champagnes flying all over the place. HOOPLA's going on. You've got people coming into places jam. You can't move and they're doing a live trophy presentation right so I'm the first guy in getting the champagne flying and everything and the only vantage point I could get is to jump up on a bridge table you the table in the middle of the of the locker room where the gum and the tickets and all that stuff out. And I jump up on. There's at least I could see stuff, and they do the trophy presentation with the whole team. The network goes to commercial. They're gonNA. Come right back and they're gonNA. Want they want interview Michael? One on one and nobody can find Michael. And I. See people like Frantic and something in my head I don't know what it was just said. Look to your left and I! Look over here and right. Maybe two feet from me is Michael in this locker. Hugging that trophy with his dad, he took the trophy from the presentation to the locker. Just to get some moment you know, and it's pure emotion, absolute pure emotion, and it's a beautiful father son moment of yes. I. Would I always said that you know I would have to ask Michael this one day that if he could have played that whole season for free just for that moment, he probably would've done it. It wasn't about the money was because that this whole that Larry O'Brien trumpy? I'm curious just overall in terms of photography Andy like the technology has changed so dramatically over the years. But was smartphones. Do you think there's an element of? I. Don't WanNa say. Photography's become more disposable, but. There's these iconic photos. Families have that have? Generations that's like the one photo they have of grandparents. I I have two kids under five. I have thousands of photos of the my phone on a daily basis. Have we reduced the importance of photography in that sense because it used to be a finite amount of film you had now you don't. It's infinite. No, I would say the opposite area I would say that we've elevated photography because now. Everybody's got a camera in their pocket. Everybody's got a camera in their pocket. But does it made it more? disposables right word, but in a sense of like I. It's hard to sort of look back on those photos because there's so many of them well. Yes, and no I mean. I still say that we professional photographers like this a lot of guys playing hoops. You know in schoolyards and backyards, but there's only a handful of guys like Michael Cooper could play it at that level right so in my world. It's kind of the same thing. There's you know there's US professionals who? Do what we do and record history and are. Part of of that, but it's wonderful. That photography has been elevated to this commonplace every day thing and that it's not so unusual for like three year old to take an amazing picture. You Know I. Think it's wonderful. By twelve year old is now taking a photography class because she wants to learn it. She and I can't really teach it at that level because I. don't really understand how all digital stuff works, just do it. But, just like the short shorts got longer, you know. That change I mean we went from film to digital. You know things change, but but the craft really stays the same you know. I still approach my work and my my photography I still approach covering a game the same way that a game tonight. I would approach it the same way. I would back when Kook played. This is the same same thing if he came to. If you started playing again, couve you. If you in like a pickup game tonight, you would. Would have that same mentality. Exactly you would prepare yourself. You would study your opponent whatever you gotTa. Do Right, and your moves would be. The same might be teeny bit slower. You know, but you know what I mean, but you would still approach it the same way, and you still the same person you still have that drive in and and competitiveness and I'm in a very competitive business, and that kind of feels it as well I, love coming coming back with. You know a picture. Maybe somebody else just didn't get that night. That kind of fuels it a little bit for the next time. And you know what? You are in a competitive feel, but you are truly one of the best and I'm assuming one last picture open. 'cause I love shot so much. Okay, but man. This here just symbolizes one defense, but how you're able to get that picture. I love this picture man. Just picked. Yeah look at the determination on Michael. Jordan is and and him ready to play, and you know what A. Guy That is at the top of his field man. Yeah, well, I mean first of all. What a thrill! It must have been for you to play against Michael. He played look at all the players. You played agains. You actually guarded yourself. You know I mean him Larry and then going up against Karl Malone and all these Barkley, and all these guys David Robinson, but that particular picture I I love that picture because it's very rare to get wa a defensive shot like that where? A guy is just that locked in I. Mean it looks like this is like laser beams, coming out of his is but magic. Look Bajic I mean. He is just totally like gauged with with what's going on with serious. Yeah. He's like. Do you look whatever you gotTa do? But I'll pass this over your head behind you. As what I loved about magic, because nothing ever daunted him i. mean you played side by side with him for so long? Did you ever see him rattled? Did you ever see him nervous? Scared beer nothing even after eighty four about the tragic ending the eighty four finals. He just it just motivated him. Yeah, moped around, and he talks about that a little bit for the summer, but just view them to be better and get it back the next season which they did. Well, you know one of the things I love about this picture. That's greatness gone again against greatness, and you have one of the best offensive players and Jordan as off as. As as great as he was offensively, he has one of the best defensive players in the League to and I really enjoy that picture Andy. Wrap this thing up. Man. Anything what's going on? Well as you can see sort of plugging. My my platform legends of Sport we're in our third season of our podcast, and they look forward to talking to you. Coop down the road. Legends Sport is is a digital platform that we have a new podcast partnership and production partnership with the Los. Angeles Times so starting next week we will be on their their podcasts platform as well as everybody else's. You know apple in spotify, and whatever so we're getting a kick this off with a sixteen week block of shows that are all about the NBA restart so I'll be doing the first seven or eight shows from La then I take the show on the road when I actually have to go to the bubble in Orlando and we'll be talking about what's going on in the bubble, the the uniqueness of the season It's going to be uncharted waters for everybody, but then we're going to be talking about legendary matchups in rivalries and finals and coaches, and all that stays true to our our legends of sport. Mantra and you know very active on Instagram at legends of Sport, our Youtube Channel Legends of Sport, so you know I'm not quitting my day job per se, the NBA photographer, but I have loved doing this legends of sport work, because it really is is keeping the conversation alive and and going. About errors and athletes like you cou, people love, and they still want to talk to and talk about and hear from you, so that's why we exist in when it keep it going. FANTASTIC ANDY! If I haven't told you this, I love you man I. Love You to love you I love. You Man, you've on. This guy shows up by sixtieth birthday. Right we. We have a disco party at the CONGA. Ru Ed. Coupe was the star of the show that I mean I've never forget cousy how how wonderful you were! Helping the usher in this crazy sixty decade I can't even believe that I'm that old. You met me when I was probably twenty I was probably twenty, six or twenty five. Both of US had hair. Hair is overrated. And he listed. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Stay safe, and if you need me I, I would love to come on the legend so for you up. Call man absolutely restated. He been listening to showtime with coop at one of my favorite people in the World Andy Bernstein.

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The Sedano Show: Is it panic time in LA?

"Alan DEMARCO far filling in for George Sodano. What's going on DEMARCO? Same old stuff man then and messed up what do you what do you let us on the radio. It's okay you're six. PM Yeah what do you do what what happens now when you are so i. I'm still crying about not being in the postseason. I'm still sad by the way how how you know walking into this sure obviously with with Get into the Super Bowl last season. How shocking did this season play out for you just to be sitting here right now and not be prepping for a game and everything else? How the biggest shocks me in the NFL? I mean I think I've seen just about everything win. The cheerleaders were on the field when the REF said ready for play. Okay that was it that means I have seen everything in this league so nothing shocks me but you know. I'm a little disappointed in how the season went. But when you think about what. This team went through in the secondary on the offensive line to come out with a winning record. I mean that's exemplary. The problem is you were just in the Super Bowl and you're out of the playoffs so it doesn't look great. It's a bad look but I think Sean McVeigh did a hell of a job. Getting this team the nine wins. Yeah it is interesting because you know from a fan base perspective. We look so much at. Did you win or do not win the game you know the La are you in the playoffs. Are you not in the playoffs like that. We simplify it that much fan base in general. They don't WanNa hear the well. This happened and that happened happened likely. Some bad fan bases. I mean they're just opened for eight wins. They're just hoping for through an eight. See absolutely no. They're just little postseason berth. I mean but this this is going to set that bar. And that's what they said in Atlanta The night they showed up when remember the when the rams showed up and they walk down the ramp and it it was all prestigious. It was great. Well that's what they kind of promise. This is what it's going to be like if you come to. La Every single free agent so that was then this is now that was fantasy. See this is reality. You're and you're on the outside looking in It kind of makes me think of last season. So the Lakers. I mean we'll talk. Obviously about with the Lakers doing now but it on Christmas. Lebron goes down with that injury Two christmases ago right. Yeah goes on that injury. The Golden State Warriors. At that time Lakers were Roland. There were six games. Above five hundred franchise has made the playoffs in five years. And the brand of the Los Angeles Lakers the expectation is always all right. We're competing for an NBA championship shipped. We're at least gonNA make the playoffs right you you you build that Reputation and that kind of mindset for your fan base the rams in a very very short period of time went from okay. We got no chance to make the playoffs. I think we're pretty damn good team to not making the postseason where you felt not like one win if you if you got one extra win if you win that game against the cowboys or if you beat Seattle you make the field goal then Seattle you know if you call call the game a little differently in Pittsburgh a game you should have one forty niner game came right down. Oh my God I mean look There are a lot of games that it could have gone either way and and you had the brakes last year this year. The brakes went against you. So you hope those breaks don't break you you know what I mean. Of course. It's it's hard to stay on top. I think Tom Brady and the Patriots kind of changed. Everybody's thinking that you can be in contention for ten straight twelve straight years. It's tough to do every single year especially asleep when you're everybody's big game especially in the NFL. I so I WANNA I wanNA start off the show and we That's it wait a minute. The Mike leave all all the lights go out to market the lights. The mics aren't even other workers. Run on the board podcast right. Oh my God yesterday Obviously the big news around the Los Angeles Lakers were Was Anthony Davis. And the this isn't GonNa go anywhere. We kind of talked about it briefly by John Ireland but eighty yesterday. This is the this is the proper way for me to describe it. It's the gluteus maximus contusion. That's what he has had that. Mri I came back negative listed as questionable against the Dallas Mavericks So it's obviously big. Big News for the Lakers. That it's not worse than that but uh when I just heard you kind of describing. You've had a similar injury I. I didn't like the way that sounded especially. If you're anti Davis you're trying to run up and down the court thirty five thirty eight minutes and now. He didn't break the tailbone which is great. I mean that's what could happen. I mean this could be a serious injury. It's kind of funny. You gluteus maximus. Would you call it. gluteus maximus contusion. But Bruce News. Yeah I mean it sounds funny but I mean your body. Is Everything in sport right. I mean it's your power plant and when that's compromise. There's some things that you can't do or you try to overcompensate paid for and you start to hurt yourself and other ways but it's GonNa be sore for a while but it's something that can go away once it stop. Once it starts being so angry you can get back out there and play sooner than later but I did. I thought they got very lucky. The way he hit the deck. Usually you break the tailbone. And then you've got issues. I've seen this happen thousand times and football funny angles running backs go over the top and they land but I and we all laugh but they can't get up from it. You know what I mean. Or they're out the next day so it can be a serious injury but I think they got lucky but this is something you can't come back from sooner than later. Yeah Lakers Data should be. Yeah by the way they got lucky for a number of reasons I mean just the way he fell where there was no nothing stopping him right and he's going down on hardwood. It's not even grass or turf for what cases even though he doesn't really really have a lot of back end or bubble to begin with hundred percents lender guy hundred percent but there is something back there so if you land on like wrestlers I know when they do the leg drop they wanna land on the they call it the meaty eighty part of your but if you get too far over like he did and you land on that unprotected part is just bone in floor or mat and boom. You're hurt and they. He got to finish the match like that. Or how about him trying to go down and trying to stop. Sometimes somebody will break their wrist. Like any of that kind of stuff can happen. So I think the Lakers there's Getting they got lucky. Let let me just kind of simplify. Sounds like they got lucky. But your injury you said when you had it it wasn't something that you came back from a couple of days later doesn't sound falls different. You got to go out and play. And there's no excuse for but bruce you can't miss a practice and let alone a game if you WANNA make a million million bucks you you can't you have to play with it but it's I mean going to the restroom is going to be tough. Driving in a car is going to be hard. So I'm sure Anthony Davis could compensate or or have a driver or have people help him. But it's going to affect everything you're gonna like if you're a guy that sleeps on his back if that's how you get your rest no no not at all. You'RE GONNA have to change now. Yeah I'm a little surprised because he is going to make the trip to Dallas so they played Dallas on Friday Dallas actually taken on the Denver Nuggets. That's right now I'm a little surprised. Ah Get your thoughts when we come back on this What can I say one thing? Of course Lebron had a great block where he went straight up and the Nice block he had last night. Yeah okay that's that's how to play professional defense in the NBA. I think that's a message. Eighty Standard Control Man. You thought it was reckless it alone on the defensive end. But you can't be hurting yourself. You don't mean stay under control out there. That's that's the one thing I was doing the post game show yes. Let's do this when we come back how much I guess in the flow of a game. There's certain things you can control. There's certain things you can't control callers calling in yesterday saying you know so We got to play him less. There's there's that conversation everything else. There's certain things you can do certain things you can't we'll keep talking about. Ad We come back. Stay right here. This is the Sodano show Allen honestly when demarco far filling in for George. ESPN seven ten. ALYCE DEMARCO far filling in for George Sodano on the show. ESPN LA seven ten so demarco usually. Yeah I'm giving my daughter a bath right right now fun. How old is she? She's four. He'll be five this year. It's crazy so so so that's what you do in the season yours. I'm I'm dead. I'm Super Dad. What happens this weekend? Two Games on Saturday. Two Games on Sunday are you employed at my brother's house right in front of his TV talking trash all day absolutely absolutely. You know why I have a ring and he doesn't win that's it you. Yes right there before we went to break And we talked a little about talk a little bit about it off the air as well so you. There's something about control that you were trying to make mention of and when you are a caliber player of Anthony and he Davis what you're saying is Your two important to do certain things is kind of the message air. Your body is more important or it doesn't belong to you it belongs to us. That's how I feel about quarterbacks. You know when they try to scramble and get all brave no body doesn't belong to you belongs thus Tha- that's Javale McGee territory. When Julius randle was going that you like a freight train I expect him to throw his body in the way or getting caught in situations like that? I don't expect that out of a D. I don't even want that Outta you really I mean. Can you imagine if view lost. Anthony Davis to a an injury that happened on the defensive side. We thought about it for the past eighteen hours. How mad would you be if he's out here because I mean that's that's avoidable and you saw what Lebron did that textbook professional block professional defense? This is how you play and this is how you stay healthy. This is how you stay active for your for your club your team there's there's kind of a there's a balance here in the league right in in any of these sports right there's a balance of It's actually kind of funny. Use this as an example. If you ever go play pick up basketball and you just look on the basketball court you can tell like okay. That guy could be a problem because he's all over the place like he's an injury injury waiting to happen somebody else. That just happens to be out of control. Dude divorced and by the way think about Julius randle. Randall is not the most controlled player in the league right. Randall wants contact yesterday when he went up against. Anthony Davis Eighty one looking for contact. Randall was looking for contact. Took took off of his feet. Injuries can can happen at any time but there is There is something to this for the Lakers. There is no you lose one of these two guys. It's a wrap. I mean that that's and I know you you could say that about if James Harden is out or K. D. Miss some time with the warriors you know obviously during their finals run. I know we could say that. But the Lakers are beyond top-heavy you know if if they're if they're teams at our top heavy Lebron are another level for the Los Angeles Lakers. I actually think with LBJ. Because he's such such a facilitator and he does literally make everybody on the court better If a D. misses some time I think they can hold their own Where if Anthony Davis if LBJ missed some time? I don't think the Lakers can hold their own. And that's just me talking more from watching these games on a night out basis. But that's how key. Both of these guys the Lakers. You mean like a five seat if you lose. Ad And if you lose Lebron you're an eighth seed possibly out of the playoffs like that deep. No not like that but they they they. They're very fortunate to have this cushioned right now in the western conference right and I think that might not sound important right right now but as you start getting into March each and they want to be a little bit more strategic which I think they will be just make sure Lebron. FDR healthy for that playoff run. You have a four and a half game cushion right now in the western conference If you lost Lebron James I think. LBJ has been the best player in the world this season. That's my personal opinion. Get a chance to see what he does on a night in night. Out Basis is for the Lakers. DEMARCO go see when he subs out. What happens to the Lakers? Oh I see it. Especially when Rondo substance and that's that's another part of it is an like Rondo But but that's another part of it they don't have it's not like Lou. Williams is on the bench right there. Isn't this player. That's why coups get so much attention because everytime LBJ it goes to the bench. It's a completely different team for the Los Angeles Lakers and there are a lot of teams that are top. Heavy like that Lakers next level. That's next level. No doubt yeah. I think there's an opportunity there for somebody like Kyle Kuzma to you could form your own niche here with the Lakers. You could be that guy but it seems like he's a little too inconsistent so there is some other guys that might be available like Mason said that would fit better in that role that have a better idea of what that that role is about and what their role is on this on this team with Lebron. When you're out you're on the floor you are the captain you run the? I guess you're the captain of the twos. It like Shaun Livingston was the warriors I mean there was no drop off so I could see a guy like that. Here for the Lakers. I would love it to be Kyle Kuzma I just. I don't have a lot of trust with him right now do you. I mean it's I hate to say dressed but now trust trust actually good word. That's I think that's the right word. I still hold my breath on the floor I I think coups this is. This is my thought process on coups. I don't know if he's ready for that role. It's as simple as that. I don't know if he's ready for that role and that it doesn't mean you know Lonzo and be i. Last year weren't ready probably for their role with Lebron James. I it's just where are you in your career. Yeah right I saw thought with Taylor up the safety for the Rams That's a tough situation to be. I mean you're expected to be one thing and then you lose a guy and now you have to start at safety now. Everybody's coming after you. You know what I mean so you may not be ready for the role but it's the role you have. You GotTa do it. You know. What's funny is you know? Look back in some of the Laker days. Shaq DOC in. Kobe took them four years playing with each other to finally win an NBA. Championship and took Phil Jackson to come in two thousand. And I'm not making the comparison because for the Lakers. It's it's not a you go. You already have your Cobian shack right you already have your POW Gusau and your And your Kobe Bryant Right. Those guys are already established. Coups more falls more into the the best cop I think I got from the offset or Ripe for the started Michael Thompson. We compare. Can it be Robert Ori Kennedy Robert or a young Robert Ory when he was actually winning in Houston okay. Would you actually ask that to Robert Ory. Like if he were in this room all oriented compound. Robert would not be happy with that comparison. I think he would walk out. And he would stand up take the mic off walkout unrepresentative but the thought process. This was Robert. Ory Was Germain player. Who's player and you know when I say sometimes it's it's unfair for coups Ma? It's nothing against coups who's Lakers are just in a spot where it's a necessity right. You have to have that position be productive this this you know specifically typically this season because of the position that the Lakers are in if they don't get consistent productivity from Kyle Kuzma that could be the difference of winning a championship and losing the championship. Or unless does she get ironman. Lebron James and even Iron Lebron James at like concerns because he's already iron. That's what I mean right now. You can't come out period even Even what he has been doing all the season and it's not just on coups their rondos got to play better. We talked a little bit about that. Danny Green Scott to play better. I mean there's other wolf players for the the Lakers that have to play better. KCPT man Casey piece Graham case by the way KCPT got so much heat early on and And ended up You know obviously kind of turning his season around it was. It was really early on. Let's do this. I'm not those names at you when we come back bald. Eagle Oh dave come on. I'm going to throw some names when we come back some other potential players that could fit into that role that we're talking about in regards to not just calculate these can be players in a buyout. Whoever the cases? We'll do that coming up next. Stay right here. This is the Sodano show demarco far. Fill in for George on. ESPN LA seven ten. All right now. We're we're I George Sodano. I think he's doing the game right now by the way one. Oh six one zero five Dallas with a one point lead over with the Denver Nuggets The Mark I've gone way too far in this is in Too much of a surprise down the Lakers rabbit hole where now. I'm I'm watching games like this. In January hoping Denver Loses to give us a five game cushioned in the Western Conference. I'm already that far. What were you doing before I it was doing that as well? All like okay to be doing it now where it's just in January it's pretty kind of comical. You got a four and a half game lead in the Western from conference again greedy. Well I think that's just being smart right or`Sir gotta get greedy like a feeling of impending doom sometimes You know I take joy in watching the clippers lose kind of that you know I'm just saying is going to hurt you. I have not been careful. It's GonNa hurt you it already. has there been too against the clippers. That's GonNa suck if there are like you know if they become champion and going down the same parade route you know what. Let me let me say it could happen. Of course it can. We know honestly where we sit today. The reason we're having conversations about coups and we're having conversations about Lakers eating a bench and so forth because of the clippers. You know I'm I'm not worried about any other team in the West or even in the Eastern Conference and I'm not saying Lakers can't lose in seven games set against any of those teams. But I'll take my chances but what I have seen in. Two Games against the Clippers Clippers one without Paul George in one and then on Christmas night. It's a Lakers home game. Ninety nine point nine percent of that fan base is obviously Lakers at staple center and you choked away a fifteen point lead in the second half. You choked away a lead late in the fourth. Quarter and the clippers are two zero against you so When I take joy in watching clippers lose to the Memphis Grizzlies in the back of my mind? Part of that joy is the mere fact that I know the clips got US already onto no no doubt at Uber. Watch the discovery channel like Animal Planet Course and you watch like a Predator. An Apex Predator chase down his prey and their their blood. The pressure doesn't change. This is normal. This is what I do. That's what I see what I see. Koala wonder play The guy's got no heart. He doesn't care he's an assassin. So I think the clippers could be holding at least from their perspective. A mental edge over the Lakers. You Know Pat babs seems to go to a different level. He's always aggressive. But he's more aggressive and violence and elbows knees when he plays against the Lakers. I'll throw this out there. I was talking to one of our Promo guys On January twenty eighth is the next chance Lakers have against the clippers. You said they have a mental edge right now. You surprised if Kawai doesn't play on that Game January twenty eighth. ooh Mine Game. I can see all stink. You know what I mean like I. I can see the Lakers circling that went on the calendar Laker fans. I'm doing the pre game with MTV. I keep bringing up January twenty eighth him and I keep talking about it. And he's in a suit. I can see oh I would do that. That's that's that's pure doc rivers. I would the idea that off the radio. I don't want anybody again. You Suck. Oh yes. That's the way they've played the season. He's yeah right. It's not wouldn't be a shocker to me and there has been something. There's two different strategies right. Now between the Lakers and the clippers and their polar opposite strategies Lakers are it. Seems like playing for the number one seed in the West. 'cause why would lebron playing every single night. Why would a DB plane every single night playing thirty five minutes? Plus Anthony Davis after that injury. He's on a plane going to Dallas right now. We're going tomorrow. Whenever the cases they're gonNA play on Friday? That means something to the Lakers Lakers want that number one seed or they wouldn't be in the position that they're in clippers are fourth fifth seed. Because they don't care about the regular season that that's been my perception so far. Both of these franchises have one goal. But how they get there are completely different. I think the Lakers I do. There is something about the Lakers. Getting some good chemistry right now playing with these players night in and night out you know exactly. What Vale is what Dwight is? These guys are gaining that continuity two new ity. Maybe this comeback comes back to haunt the clippers that every single night one guys in one day is not one stars playing once stars. Not We'll have to wait and see but the both teams are completely. The the approaches is one hundred percent different. I mean why wouldn't clippers. Go for the one seat I mean. Is there a benefit to be in the one seed you get the easier. Draw in in the postseason. Right or the clippers are. We don't care who we play. I think there's a first round okay that and I think they're saying to themselves and the Lakers do well. I think the Lakers. I'll use this as an example Kobe and shack when they were winning. I think there was any team. They could have beaten a seven game set. But if the Lakers didn't have home court against the Portland Trailblazers in game seven at Staples Center where they were down sixteen. They probably don't come back and win that game. I think two years later they they face the Sacramento Kings up in Sacramento for game. Seven well Lakers went to Sacramento. And they won that game at Arco Arena. I guess at different times. Maybe after the Lakers got a couple of championships under the under their belt they felt like we can go in anywhere the clippers. I'm assuming think in their mind. We can go take one one road game from any team that we play to to steal back home court that makes sense. I mean I would think the Lakers could do the exact same thing because of Lebron ad as long as you have both guys healthy But you know just maybe Kawhi Leonard Changes. They're thinking because like you said have defense have great. Offense will travel but I thought the Lakers are in the same mode. But maybe you have to think differently. Because like you said Lebron's gotTa Lotta Miles and eighty and Lebron are still working this thing out and the other three guys. The other five guys are seven guys. You're gonNA play are still working this thing out. There's more work to be done for the Lakers. In pursuit of that one seat that makes more sense. You'RE LISTENING TO K. Espn Los Angeles. I I think the Lakers also they do not have that luxury right now where they can take some games off like if Lebron misses a game. This is the best example I could give Lakers played at Denver on December Third K.. Lebron played in that Game Lakers won by nine about two and a half weeks later. DENVER COMES TO STAPLE Center. Lebron doesn't play in that game. They lost by twenty four right about about. I mean there is a good team. Denver's got the second best record in the Western Conference actually just won the game over Dallas so that one away unfortunately Dallas gave it away. But you win by nine with Lebron in Denver you come home play home game. Lebron doesn't play. They lose by twenty. Four wow lakers. Don't have have the luxury and I say that as actually a compliment to what the clippers do have they got. Lou Williams mantras herald that. Come off the bench Lakers. Don't have that off the bench yet yet. I hope yet. Yeah the is the best way to say J.. Jalen rose by the way on Jalen and Jacoby. They do their show obviously but she every weekday Jalen had some thoughts on coups Ma and the Ad Andrey. I WanNa play that role quick. He's GonNa miss some games but the key person that this is going to impact. Oh because when you hear your name and trade rumors that works two ways take it betrayed a couple of times and actually a couple of times. I was happy happy when I got traded. They always a bad thing. He now gets to play his value for the Lakers to potentially shop him and for him him to be ready to go somewhere else reading about that. Holy Shit Up. Why not man turn it loose? It may not be here. This may not be the role for you but you could be more important for this team on a different team. That's just the way it goes absolutely I'm with Derrick. Rose I I mean I'm with Jalen rose traded for Derrick rose. Basketball's Weird Madam. You could be in like in in one uniform and then walk into the locker room and your plan for the other team just like that. You know what I mean. That's that's crazy but absolutely I would. Just start filling it up. You can start to see these guys that are about to get moved at the deadline and how they pick it up all of a sudden Chris Chris Paul starts the ball out like Oh. Yeah so I mean yeah it's time for Kyle Kuzma either here or someplace else to play your value men up your value. What what do you think So February six as a trade deadline. Yeah what do you think happens. Do you think the Laker stand pat. No I don't buy you. Can I think they gotta do something. Something's gotTa have I'm with Humana think it's all in time. It's never going to be better than what it is right now. You're not going to get a better. Lebron James says you know it's actually funny a couple of weeks ago Doing a show Kirk Morrison right. Yeah doing the same thing. Fill in for the Donna. And I'm telling Kirk this stuck with me. I'm trying to make the point. I'm like this is it. You have a two year window and he stops me. He's like you don't do not think of next year. He's like just right but now you Lebron could be a different player a year from now you know what what Lbj has done has been remarkable. What he's done but it kind of made me close that window even more and say forget two years from now or I'm sorry? Forget next season. Just worry about this year because this could be your best shot shot to win an NBA championship. It could be in this little pocket in this window that you're in right now and I think that's what you're referencing as well. This is a man I mean really you I. If you don't go for for now it's probably not going to happen with group. I mean think about it. It's not going to get any much better than what it is right now. Lebron's not GonNa get younger or healthier. You know what I mean I mean can you can. Can you actually play even better than what he's playing right now giving you more than what he's giving you right now. I thought Lebron was hurt after the Christmas Day. Game are really did. I thought he was banged up. I thought that I did too. I think there's a reason why it took twelve three pointers. He was taken. He stopped driving the ball. I think there's something to that. But he's still filling it up. He's still finding ways to get it done even if via's banged up so you need to take advantage of this and appreciate that and supplement that right now that that would be my approach. I Lake offense. I'm going to throw this out. delake offense degree. Do you agree with DEMARCO. Far that the Lakers half to do something before the trade deadline because this roster stir ask constructed. It's too risky right like the contract or the The players that you have right now. It's a good team. We know their thirty seven. We know they're atop the Western Conference only a A. I think a one loss difference between the bucks and the Lakers bucks have six losses. We have seven losses but at the same time. It's too risky risky to roll the dice and say we're GONNA take our chances with this team. So do you agree with DEMARCO far. Do you think this team as constructed can actually win a championship. The way it is phone. Number's eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN let's take a quick Jim in La wants to hop on. Jim You're on the Sodano. She'll go ahead buddy. Hey thanks for taking my call on love you you and your show appreciate it thank you. You're welcome so just for a second I WanNa back up to where you were talking about about the seating eating. You're saying the clips don't care about the number one seed with the Lakers to care about it but I would say there's another Variant there the Lebron was injured last year. And he's back. He tells he wants to prove to everyone that he can play eighty games. ABC's now here's a Laker. He wants to show everyone. They're not thinking about load man's that they're thinking about. Let's put the very best product to play the best we can as a team and then I really focused on seeding. But they're also not thinking about low bands and like the clips are. Do you know what it's GonNa be tough for us to get that number one see okay. Let's just lay in the weeds a little bit and I do agree that let's have a little bit of an edge on mentally. I'd love to see a victim at least once in the regular season but so I don't think the Lakers are focused on the the number one east so much worried about homecourt advantage. There just like excited to play together. Lebron they do so much fun and because they can't Jim I appreciate the call you know you know it's funny DeMarco is sick alot y you know they. They've taken load management to a different level right and clubs of liquors and then look they. They're gonNA do their strategy. That's the strategy. That's what they're gonNA do. It is what it is But you know something that Kinda has struck with me couple times. These Lakers practices. And you look Lebron James in the eyes and you say hey what what do you think of load management. You're going to take some time off or you're gonNA take some of these games off and he's going to give you a very professional answer in the professional answer is going to be if I'm not injured third. I'm going to play you. Know he'll look right in the eyes and stare into your soul and tell you that if I can go I'm going. Anthony Davis Davis same thing. Ad Actually brought up something. This was maybe Maybe towards the beginning of the season he talked about how many games he missed when he was in New Orleans. He said I'm twenty twenty six years old right. He's like I'm not the Load Management Guy. I I'm I haven't had these long playoff runs. I haven't played eighty eighty two games in my first seven years of my career every every year right up eighty two and then twenty games in the postseason and I'm just twenty six years old. Why are you guys talking talking to me about load management? Both of these guys in my opinion sent a very clear message. If they can go. They're going and it doesn't have anything to do with the standings doesn't doesn't have anything to do with who they're playing or this backyard strategy if I can play basketball I'm GONNA play unless I'm injured. that's been kind of their mindset so far for this year have you heard anything about load management coming out of Dallas with Luca. Now Yeah It's it seems like we're only talking about that here because Lebron I get. There's a lot of mileage there. Maybe Kawai because I mean he had the injury deal. But I mean if you're young enough to play then go play. Hey if you're healthy enough to play then go play But if you think you can get an edge down the road by resting a guy. I don't blame. Doc Rivers for sitting out Kawhi Leonard in the game. That doesn't matter her but when it does matter and you can go go. You know what I mean you'd better you're gonNA become you think that's By the way Mt Michael Thompson was talking sauce about you know you ever hear the old school load management. What's that old school load management? He talked about when it's great story back in the eighties when it was the showtime era and Lakers. We're going to take on a team that they knew they were going to smack down right. They knew they were gonNA handle business against that team He tells the story of their load owed manager back in the days when magic would gather everybody together and say listen. We're going to handle business. We're GONNA take care of this team as fast as we can and by halftime or third quarter at the latest. I'm going to be in. Kareem is going to be sitting. You Know James. We're going to be sending his load management was you blow out teams because you're that much much better and we're GONNA be chilling on the bench for the final quarter and a half that was version of load management. Remember Grant Wistrom at all no. He was our defensive end. We'll be won the superbowl. The ball came from Nebraska. I think they won two national championships while he was there out of like three years of being a starting defensive end I think he played in two fourth quarters. You you know what I mean. Because they're blowing people out and he's out of the game by the third quarter so that to me is what load management should be when the game is over. And you've got it in hand. Get your starters orders out rest but not to start the game if he's healthy. Yeah I think that does more to your chemistry Ti- times have changed. If there's one thing I think Lakers have a little bit more than most teams names out there is. There are building some chemistry some continuity because they are playing all the time together. So hopefully. That's one advantage for the Lakers lesser. This we come back. I know a couple of callers want to get on a a phone number is eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN we'll start transitioning a little bit. I'LL WANNA talk. You got some questions to you about the Los Angeles Rams this off season Some some things that you think. They should do what they're missing. How do they get back in that NFC Fi- Obviously that they missed out on this upcoming postseason. We'll do that coming up next. Stay stay right here. This is the Sodano show on demarco far filling in for George on ESPN LA seven ten. This is Donald Show Allen C. One DEMARCO far filling in for For George Warrior stunk. Yes delays seven ten tonight. I'm a big warriors fan again. That's my team tonight. You're a big warriors or your them to win absolutely why. Because they're playing Milwaukee Bucks Bucks get seven losses. Sitting at six Lakers in the bucks are tied for the best record in the NBA. And what they do. I'm telling you saw got bad. You won't see them until championships. It's got bad. Wow like if if if Golden State wins tonight my goal to the bay area this weekend and just enjoy my time up that you wouldn't do that. They're hurting right now to go that far On I want to take a couple. Let's let's get some lake offense to kind of interact here phone. Number's eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN who was the guy that you were cussing. Jesse was doing some work. Jesse was doing some work over there. I'd Andrew in L. A.. Talking about Andrew you're on the Sodano showdown tomorrow far. Go ahead bud. A first of all really appreciate she ate you taking my call. But here's my take iming. Lebron James is one of the biggest hypocrites when it comes to load management current by because back when he was in the cavaliers. What did you do in the middle of the season? Two weeks off was he hurt. No he took two weeks off to recuperate. He's went out of his way to say he shut himself down not the coach he himself shut himself down for two weeks that he can get ready for the playoffs. That's not a little management. I don't know what the hell would management is. What do you want Andrew? What do you want him to do this year? Do you want him to have a different strategy. Because right now so far. This season in the Western Conference Lakers got the best record in the NBA. Obviously competing for an MBA champion. A big difference between the two conferences the east and the West. Do you want him to take that same strategy that he had in Cleveland. Or you don't want that. I mean look. This is what I want from the brunt I I want honesty I want him to be honest about the fact that for the past five six years of his career that he did management and that for him all of a sudden busier to be like. Oh now it's like okay. Now I don't I'M NOT GONNA do loan management now because like I don't care if I'm hurt I'm gonNA keep playing like I think that's a load of nonsense and it's convenient for him to do that this year because who's doing load management. It's quite WanNa Championship last year. It's cool why right so honored. So his his let let me throw a couple numbers at you go had his last year. In Cleveland do not many games. He played I do not care. Played Eighty two games yet year. Your prior to that. He played seventy four year before that he played seventy six. Okay these are all added eighty two games and let me remind you all those years. What was is he doing in the postseason? He was playing the maximum by the way. Forget that he was playing the maximum amount of games that you can play in the postseason. So there's something to what you're saying. It doesn't all align he's playing seventy five plus games every year out of eighty two and then he is giving you twenty to the twenty five games on top of that in the postseason man. You can't play anymore games in that in a season but look like now you're you're like mincing words like because the whole point of thing like like. Oh I'm not going to be I'm not GONNA do. Management is is to say like. Oh I'm tough I'm like you know I'm hard core. I love that bomb. Like powering through it. But that's not not with Lebron is but that's what he's done see Lebron fan what he did after he sold out he on the Lakers went on on the fan. And you know I'm pissed at the Lakers spent because he quit on me. Andrew Bondra Andhra. Are you a Laker fine are you. Are you a Laker Fan Andrew. Are you a Laker Fan. Yeah I grew up in the Lakers family. Okay let let me let me tell you some anyway Tauber on the way let let me just tell you something. Let me say something you hate. Lebron Mesnier Andrew. You you very very well in a few months from now could be tied with the Boston Celtics for seventeen NBA Championships. And you know how you're gonNA get number seventeen. I'm not even going to say a D. I'm not going to say any other prey on this roster. I'M NOT GONNA say Palanca I'm not GonNa say Magic you would tie. You tied the Boston Celtics because of one player. LBJ Show some respect to Lebron. James look I understand and maybe I've been spoiled by Kobe right and I think this one. This is one of the reasons. The Rue we found the room. When you found the rule can keep going on? This is one of the reasons why there's a little bit of tension attention between Lebron coming to La. Because I think for me as a Laker hardcore basketball fan. Right like I'm using what Kobe brought. He brought it every game. Aim whether he was hurt or not right like that. Why considered him him an all time? Great because he quit on me last year. How can I consider him an all time? Great all concretes. Don't quit your off. I appreciate listen. I appreciate you calling into the show but I I disagree. Kobi shut it down in the playoffs and in Arizona in Phoenix years ago. I'm not one that game seven I do not Absolutely but let me say this. You know DEMARCO I. This is where I get confused sometimes with Laker fans. Don't tell me Your Laker fan and then bring up Kobe. Like if you're a Laker fan how how are you not watching every single night right now. You haven't made the playoffs in six years. Lebron James Single handedly changed your organization station around and you got a shot at an NBA championship. Lebron's never going to be Kobe in. La He doesn't have to be. That's not the comparison all lake offensive looking. Can you get one chip Lebron Lebron before. He's gone sure. Kobe played twenty years with the Los Angeles Lakers. Kobe stepped up to the free. Throw line with with a torn Achilles to no doubt throws there's things this Kobe Bryant no one could ever compare to but don't compare LBJ. and Kobe appreciate what. LBJ's doing in the moment. Almost kind of sort of like the Lakers with Kevin Durant you get credit right but you don't you know what I mean because Kevin Durant came there and help you. He made a great team even better so it may not be an another laker championship. This will be another Lebron Championship in a Laker uniform. There might be a little bit different from people like him. But this is the difference and this is the thing that I'll always say when you know. LBJ LBJ came to one of the most popular brands and sports in the world. Manchester United The New York Yankees The Dallas Cowboys. There's only a few of these Ryan the world world. LBJ before you got here Lakers were winning championships LBJ. When he leaves the brand is still going to be? The Los Angeles Lakers. It was just the perfect perfect marriage but I get I get upset sometimes when I I don't know I kind of sometimes I wonder. How does it happen where LBJ? He gets criticism you it. Lebron gets a ton of criticism. This is it could have been when he went to Miami. Whatever the case was but here he is in La Rock and the purple and the gold and the teams winning meaning? You know what I mean like that. Yeah and you know what's going to happen if they don't win an NBA championship and Lbj. Missed some key free throws that I'm going to be on the Mike saying the same thing. How did he miss? Those was Fritos. We had a chance to win an NBA championship. But at least in the moment. Look where. You're franchises You know the rumor. Tom Brady may become a town to play for the charges right. What if the chargers went to super bowl with brady is it? They're super bowl or is it is it. Is You WANNA know why. Because he's bigger than that brand. I think that's the problem with Lebron for some Laker fans. You know what I mean but LBJ bigger than just different like you guys. Were so desperate to win a championship. You had to go out and get it. Lebron the do it. You'll lose a little bit in the Barbara but just a little bit but superstars is how the Lakers have always done it. You Know Kareem came from another team a little little bit different I. It's not as it's on TV. Saying I'm taking my talents to Miami. You know what I mean by shack signed as a free agent true. They don't have to be homegrown players. Some of them have been. Kobe was drafted. Even though they came out of a trade magic was technically he was drafted but it was a trade to get the pick. Nick there are there are homegrown talent. That's that's come through the Lakers. But Pao Kareem abdul-jabbar. There's other players that got help Kobe. And it's I usually when people go crazy about LBJ being here. It's usually Kobe centered. It's never shack centered or anyone else center Ashley. Kobe senator. Because has he started here. You know what I mean. I just don't think at the end of the day and we're going to a quick commercial break. We come back when keep hitting on this and by the way I know the phone lines lit up appreciate appreciate Andrew for calling in and kind of held on that But I I hate to try and make comparisons to Lebron and coby. I hate it because Kobe did what he did. Did for twenty years in the purple and gold. Lebron's not coming here in two. Three years is GonNa Change in you know all Lebron can do try and win an NBA championship in the purple and gold and you'll have three NBA championships with three different teams. And if he's finals. Mvp let's say Lakers win the series file finals MVP. He'll be the only player to have won finals. MVP on three different teams. That's a goal in itself but it has a branch to do with the Lakers. His career is not. The Los Angeles Lakers go undefeated regular loose season postseason when a championship. You'll never eclipse Kobe. Here you know what I mean. Of course yeah. It just won't happen. That's just the era were in but like you said one more championship Utai Boston. I think it's all that matters. That's all the credit bureau fan base. That's all that matters. That's all matters I'd stay right here. This is a sodano show Allen Sleep demarco far filling in for George on E._S._p._N.. L._A. Seven ten.

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Ep. 15: Brian Cage

First Match

43:00 min | 11 months ago

Ep. 15: Brian Cage

"You'RE LISTENING TO A. PODCAST network production. Hey it's Jesse cage. Welcome back to another episode of first match. This week, we've got the F. T. W. champion from W Brian Cage is jumping in that first match time machine. Before we get to the show WanNA thank one of our sponsors, boulevard Burgers on Saint, Pete Beach Dude I slammed one of those cage burgers last night and you need to do the same when you find yourself in Tampa Bay Saint Pete. Beach where the live here whether your vacation here, you've got to get out to boulevard. Burgers you at a perfect Burger Patty with a hand breaded chicken breast on top of that on top of that Bacon on top of that Chatterjee's on top. Of that more cheddar cheese then honey mustard and all the fixings on the perfect von. That's the cage. Burger. You can only get it at Boulevard burgers saint. Pete Beach when you get in there and make sure you them know that Jesse Cage Sanchia all right on with Brian Cage. Right after this I'm Ron Pitts coach Mike. Martz and we host the weekly sports podcast called run it. Again, we take you beyond the daily Sports Grind with an investigative look inside the game, the players and the business of sports. This week will break down the top NFL running backs, guys like Christian McCaffrey, Zeki Elliott and Saquon Barkley. Don't miss this week's episode of run it again. Brian Cage. My first match was an unbelievable dream come true. The first match podcast. Jost Jesse Gauge. All. Right. Well, you may have known my guest today as cage Chris Logan Brian Cage Taylor maybe Mr Gm sl but you know him best right now as the F. T. W. Champion and quite frankly a total fucking bad, ass Brian Cage welcomed to first match man. Thank you and hey, what an introduction also what a way for me to be. Clued in that I can touch on which. I had blew me on Ed Brian Heffernan and I must said Fuck thirty two times before he goes hey, man, can we cuss on this? I don't know if you know. A. Lot. This is the best part about going from radio is in radio for almost twenty five years actually I think you and I cross paths when you're. I was working for ninety eight rock and I really yeah, I came over I was doing the afternoon show the cage cult show and Steve Kern dusty. Had me come over to do some stuff? With bow and Wyndham and Damian. Sandals. So that's going to be around the same time you were W. percent argued, well, let's jump in the first match time machine. Go back to the beginning you grown up out in Cali and just of tell us where your love a pro wrestling came from and we'll go from there. Yet, so the first time. the first time I had seen wrestling with. My Mom's friends house or rent out nor mom's friend was visiting out of town hotel. The or something I was five real shaky Arab on in the background and. Little was. The. Match is my revenge being infatuated by it and just being totally like on your watch this and always been huge in the superheroes and all that stuff. So those realized superheroes on TV like, wow, what is this so super battery that and then you know. I I have three brothers boneheads to at the time And they'll watch it together. We all wrestle together real at all the games all the figures I pay per view watch was Rumble. Too I think but regardless shortly after that, we actually granted from wrestling for years because. Of the countless rows, even you know make each other cry and breaking this breaking admiral but that's it. No more. We've gotten from for a few years until we started to like sleekly watch it again like I remember Monday nights just cool into at least thirty becoming like Kinda like frozen meal dinner nights. Packages for that which worked out great for it. Could we just make it and then just kind of tiptoe into our bedroom and then shut the door almost like as we were sitting there watching porn or something. I selling Neville. and. We all quite and watching it on what time of my stepdad comes into at update and. Look to everybody will look like. Is, wrong Born and the book. Watching thought was like Oh shit busted and mom out. After toxic. Okay. Whatever he wants to get on the go. Yes. I think I give that out. So that was given us like is like punishment than like like you like grounded from that. Got It from that as we. Get in trouble. Then if you drive you renton was the worse. Yeah. I had a same thing. My mom would use wrestling against me because I just love it. It's all I wanted to do I had my L. Japan wrestlers and. Again, I'm a little bit older I'm forty three. So Saturday nights main event she would withhold that from me and one day I got in trouble. She's like you can't watch Saturday night's main event tonight and it was Hogan Orndorff in the cage I'm like I have got to watch. Hey Mom can I go to Bob's house and she goes share you can go spend a night your buddy's house. That was the easiest fucking get get. Get. Home, she goes watch wrestling. Danica Roem. Turn. It on. Doing. Shoe harbor like we're got from I think for you know how long we can watch it can. Take Away. Our Video Games of Eight. Eb. Has Wrexham related like Nope Nope Nope Damn and so that would that was funny though that guy wants more reaction than just you know than just being grounded got. You got it from wrestling. No. Real. who were your favorites at the time so came up for thought like. Out, to everyone loved Hogan, warrior, way more than Hogan I really like Sandwich and then as I got you know a little bit older like, okay. He's like more than just a fancy recipes smoke smarter just actual. You know match and skills Shawn, michaels and razor amount for sure and then and then the three that I wanted to emulate in the rain. Three Chris is Canyon then want in Jericho like my three like like really like unrated favorites. I wanted like hybrid package would be like the perfect wrestler. Well. Tell us about Canyon because I know you became friends with Chris. How did that come about? So I want you to Arco arena shown Sacramento for Monday night raw and I'd never went to those to be show a outstanding both matter of fact, I would I would wake up at five in the morning because I watched the first hour nitro. Watch raw never record night Joan every. Fucker at school with spoilers alter the next day. So I would say we have a fight in the morning on Tuesday just walked out of the nitro performance at school slowing from the tonight show like I went to both SORTA spoilt something but I never went to show because of way more pro WWF and when the lights came on, do we gotta calm and then I always a huge fan of canyon. Now going to bed at the time and. I remember to like like I stopped on it and I made it and I didn't and I were trying to leave go out I. Remember we gotTa. Make ALMANAC, come on. Brand. New. Jersey. No. Trying to make it rush the through and we jump in the car we're going on there and I'm a we fix road feet and all I wanted was to see the sign and it was awesome. Appreciation him out in the got down. But credential with milk, and before that happened someone something rating came Katie went to like one corner with going on the ropes took that opportunity only see like the little security guys. Hey. Get out on him and I'm like my kind of and he looked at me and. I think my boom. Perfect. He saw the sign that's all I wanted. You know mission accomplished the debate goes over. You know go off the air this'll be them stuff. It's it's it's fun. It's great and that just has to walk way now head back behind with Tron came back at me and just point pointing of my point that Governor Suffolk me. Oh It gives me a thumbs up. Sign, and I was like Oh the pop up picking on my brother saw it up. Yeah. Rocking back up stairs my brother I wonder if you can see him around the time chance, I looked at me. And then I look again as like almost at the top and he looks to be Canyon like walking back out on the side of the of the ramp. So what excited I'm run Back Down at Bluetooth man woman child all the way down. Actually. Right. Like the real by worksheets were and and he's like walking up to hit the safe. Follow in Texas. Oh, they can easy Katie picks it up real migo. Here we go. I. Wanted to keep this but you enjoy more and it was better off shared that he had given often that night and to give it to me. And that was awesome. Bumps for you dude. I I couldn't believe it. All went to whether cars were. And we're waiting for you know rabid marks that will wear thin and I was. Not on everyone like heard come out from out of his. Sphere for them now, there's no selling them. All it was like it was like a scene from saving private. Ryan. Where everything's quiet right You can't hear anything and just quiet quiet quiet and like building building like pressure pressure and boom I kicks in like right as. Kanye walks down all. German. His car, and if you time Oh and he comes over and he seismic sign in my shirt and I'm blabbering among freaking out you know and they just remember saying thanks because I only see twenty and. And the onset. These was appreciated. So like I was one of the moments of my life and I remember I R. I already wanted to be represented like around age ten but like that moment right there and how he felt churches so much so. How he had. Like just made that night for me as A. Position to exact same thing for somebody else because it was like like you even explain it and even it's been you know twenty years ago or whatever like it's so such an unbelievable experience I remember telling the story over and over and over again like after it happened at school and. It was it was unreal. It's so cool and I the descriptive paper about it and and posted on his. Website on the Message Board and the Webmaster afforded to him. He had emailed me and it was just like you look like you know I really appreciate again. Thanks to this. You know take care for free to like right back so. Vampire. To let me through. Free right back I think. Every single day. He's like very like dude this fucking kid. But I happen to Intervene and get a couple responded email And just happened to be at the show we returned from injury coincidentally, and then I didn't like. You from outside of when he was driving away and he saw my sign like double took him pulled over and then went up through Oh. Are you Brian Ago Oh shit he remember do I what could have the shirt on and? And Talk to more at all, you know I wouldn't normally do this but. If you want. Here's my. Number. My number is go to shows because he wasn't always there on on them. because. Iran. End to through go. So we go all the time but yeah when he's there, we we a Denny's afterwards come house an extra years later. Meridian Valley Superstars. My first thought was, how did the this? Amazing? Five Star Quality Food for free they long and then go and pay paper diddy. Right. Now, I'm like what? was better days. Weekly different guys their love times I. Don't like what? You have this whole. skillet bro You got to get that. A Grand Slam that's right away. I mean they're not pictures. You know they knew I wanted to be wrestler and everything. I. Remember Joking about you know backyard wrestling then And everyone run a h did it put a are in that timeframe too and someone came across you know like working with him I'll do an honor with him. He's like go. Yeah. Well, you know you'd have to. have a ray in the actual show and whatever and I my own little promotion called NWF and. Lived It was called a man, the townhouses. And Way back in the day and we called the the call their little backers fed in the F. is managing your Wrestling Federation and when I long afterwards became got rain gutter bins license got everything were training and everything and I got my own fed. It was called the I kept NWF just for the. It was main event Wrestling Federation and I remember Tom at that point in time to go. Hey, look we going on. Oh well, maybe maybe he's a guy told them that you know it would be possible then and One day he calls me up and he goes, Hey, you're gonNA show. You in the middle of July two five and I go no. No, we're doing a week before the week after I go why? And he goes Oh 'cause I booked in the bay area and Kelly and I was I was going to see if I could just you know basically double shot income a few. What's The hold on wait a minute a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. So you created the NWF this like backyard deal that you turned into something you got a license you did the whole thing. And Canyon. WHO's the W. of the time is going to is going to come in Russell at your fed. Well not anymore at this point in time. Okay. Well but still a WWF superstar WWe star Okay Fair Enough Yep still I mean that's that's fucking huge. It was it was great. I'm like. Me Making the show now so Do even it was. This considered my first pro match, and actually we just found out to that it was. Like fifteen years ago today when I like Russell Jon Moxley. For the title. So that's pretty a pretty. Outstanding but Yeah I remember. Airport and driving back in Chico and in a big whatever the fact that hands in my hometown. Little on promotion. Do. That I made exactly even Russell. This is unreal and. We're out there and I'm like we almost thirty minutes I just sorta link on it too much. Of that match and It's Extremely extremely green but selected today one of my top three if I probably matches in moments, just the whole experience was incredible and Actually even went back to clearwater with him for a couple of weeks. and. I started using about their jumping out with them and like it was it was so cool and then he ended up giving me an opportunity to get into deep south on. Which giving opportunities, and unfortunately it closed down and then they moved it to FCW right? And I'd had my son like six months prior to me going to go to too deep South and with the bloomer his mom to to do it. Okay. What happens all come back? So she was a close the doors on it every say Florida mcinerney you know I I've been away my family and I I would go back and forth I wasn't there for a long time maybe goes on land like nine months but are changing the blessing to come out here and like absolutely thing happens and I just moved back. So you know I'm keeping my mansion word and I went back and whatever job and started working indies again over there and. When they came into California. Do like to the tapings because they're doing to. Austria so he had to get those. and the bank, and then do their off, and I got booked as an extra Jamal three from having been out there to pay off a long run and actually Luke. Hawks who is a really good friend of mine who is a really good friend of canyons we met the actually you. Play for the toy helped put the e into with. Bill Behrens was dude some extra booking. Yeah. while also met was out there you saw and that was really the big my book which leads me ended up getting. So I go do these three extra slots with me and The first night though love me I. I'm not the shape that I am now or I'm the shape I'm up the size I am. Good shape and Jamie. Noble comes out that. Day Lou this is getting ready to wrestle, and if he can marry or I'm Jan row with them all hanging over US tonight. For sure your partner and he was the guy, the apartment and then I, want you to meet somebody and walking wounded. Knee Johnny Ace. WHO's the VP compilations and did you ever johnny ace impression like everybody does? Of course right doesn't everybody says. It's all I do. That we met each other in deep South and like. Once, but he was like A. Kid. We watch you know. Facing afterwards cousteau by me up you match. So we can talk and. I'm thinking that's a good idea. Oh, great and noble like what we'll give you signed the night. So I'm like you like I'm not even nervous. This is crazy. My dark match predominately non-labor nervous 'cause like Noah's. Feeling as pumping me up a mortgage, Shanta Moore who I know from. Canyon. Jimmy Fan of the team like. I remember like not being worried at all. At the gorilla, the little mini sized candy bars the eat sugar pumping up baby oil for bottle I'm rock and roll and I. Don't remember the else because they get knocked out in a match actress gone from my memory shit. How'd you get knocked out? I've seen it to like fake memories in my head shirk but Great killing it. It's actually in Fresno which I didn't live at the time. Then I I did some time thereafter and that's why mostly stores now three for the five nine on Wjr underground but I'm all over the place anyway. We're going to keep going forwards and backwards here you're good. so Jimmy gets hot tag I'm selling. My head because he's a huge cost body off the top and then my my armor take this other bitch. So frigging good. Here we go. Here we go. So turn around he's finally are I jump up there to meet him so high catch him he landed at high on me and come backwards like. This is my head that here it's like flips upside down in the van drive off. Out Gold, SIP, arms in the. He gets up and he peppers my partner off The Apron turns around like you know his comeback for the bump and feed. Waiting and he's weighed and he like look a but I mean like you know get the puck up kid he comes over and shoot kicks me like what are you doing and the rookie like owner he's out. We shouldn't. Even goes any piddly. Too I picked out. And the referee goes. Three. Like he's like, no no. Out. At. The auditory non Shannon more side Dan and like my partner writing size any bumps him by Kim and he picks me up on my going up with them and there was no no games. If you've already seventy eight, let's go or let's go with me and I'm up like like thirty thousand boxing on my put my dukes. Drunk to. Stop. Fall backwards and my head just goes Doo. Doo Doll, the ropes I'm say out again. And then you know the post messed is so filming and I don't know when I come to you because I, don't remember any. That's all gone for me but My face throughout their like the recording still on continents the doctor and I'm like Oh. Yeah. Final to get up I. Even look at read. My Lips. Oh, you want me to show it. I can sell it off like. I remember anything and they call it a local friend of mine was Dane with and. Backstage immersed again, number of their Tony. For the I remember that the told me I was just sitting there and it wait where am I? What happened? What time is it? Looks the right I see my joe piece of each Joe, what are you doing here? I don't know the call. Wait. AM I. On what time it was but job just like like clockwork and then? Jimmy took me back to my friend's house. We have every night. So you gotTa beat them up so you can get you know go to call mile whatever and. I come back the next day we're in Fresno for science scandals as they were to go to San Jose and I get my new gear and I go to like go to the rain like, Hey, it's still smackdown team like now Sark. Age. Not going out there and what you're can cash, you're not going to get the right now like damn it so I changed on. Like pocked man I'm just sitting there watching not doing anything and I talked to knowable became man you know your without saying it I basically like Bro, Brody's house assignment tonight and you know if he was going well, say that knocked out because you know it wasn't my plan but you don't see it happens like screw the boots of what's going on and he goes I didn't say that directly facing was trying to get to. The Egos he goes hey, don't worry. Don't all talk to as well come talk to you for nighttime. The cool were saying their goodbyes nights over noble all man I never talked to sorry about that. But you know but we have this tour and Australia for a couple of weeks but was after information and like you know we'll we'll be in touch or whatever I'm like okay. Cool. Thanks in my head like that sucks that doesn't do anything I'm like Nah forget this like. Now or never like was were they I'm So walk around. I find them from afar and looking at him like like stock in my right leg trying to act like I'm not waiting to talk to them and looking for an opening, and like this is never going to happen because everyone's like from Bardia and what left right left right to up there he's probably two or three people around him. And I walk up there and I go oh, excuse me, sir. I interrupted from a handout shake his hand and he goes you're acute. Jewish, you just turn it back to me walked away. man let you hell and. Like. Mature, we're GONNA sign you basically attitude to like get the fuck out of like oh Damn did me dirty? So you know whatever I'll you know. I'll go we'll get my hotel. Sleep get up. Come back tomorrow enjoy the catering watch Raleigh. It'll be fine with the glass half full I'm like information as long as they get booked again, I wasn't. Coming to like as long as good oppression work. The next California I'm a guy to again is a step in the right direction. Yeah. So. So we go up there and it's raw and I. Guess it's kind of. Under the bus little bit but 'cause it was Ron smackdown I guess nobody knew I. Actually. Got In the ring no problem and goes around and stuff and What which I'm glad I remember doing much primetime for people like I remember even when I went and got used are we went back to change and a couple of guys came out and ask for me just go back in the help them some moves. Okay. Well, that makes it look good then so I won't and did that I come back I change I'm the last person and literally. The. Glue area where watching the monitors. And my back into long. Back, it's wall and we'd taps on the shoulder and ace. And I'm like up. Yeah. Wasn't his office. And I think he says is a game. Today but. We do. Business which doing so as I'm like okay well, sorry, there's no no one. Go kind of showing for interrupting them they legislating show me that you're persistent. Yeah and like wine we assigned. Usually I got heat, but then it was a good thing that did it. So I never really do but. He goes. Yeah. I wanted to sign in when we saw you don't WanNa. See you know. you the rain. Good. Obviously took a hell of a bump and you know it happens but they wanna see how much wide it's I'm glad you show persistent came up to me and he just goes you wanted to go to Florida go I'm just so it was like before I, was nervous at all. I. Was Gone Home with dealing with get sinus. Awesome like, oh, she's a bed like it's all told me. Then I know he just gets them out guard and I'm just like other. and. Like Yeah Yeah. Sure. Sure because there's okay. We'll go find Toronto paperwork started and then you have your board of my. Okay walk out the door I'm like. Signed and then my second Bob was. fucking. Shared. A. Year. Know. What should I? Coming out finding whatever and then the. Paperwork signed and all man that's why we're going to ask. No, that's huge man. I've just this is. The first match this often happens we'll kind of go back and forth like you said before you're like going ahead I'm going back. This is what we do before. We continue forward I want to go back to main event when Canyon comes in and first off we just training yourself we just training with your buddies who was the guy who is So Yes. Okay. So I. I was a little self taught a lot of the You know the the hardy crew him in house and you know more stuff, but this are going to a local. Wrestling school by the name of. PC W. There's so many pieces w but pro wrestling up in Yuba city and St hundred which of Mr Prime time he was got a granite, but it was really got an old school Oliver John who is tremendous he was so good. It's such a shame. You never had like big breakouts and. Now. Phenomenal worker but trait visit but I A. Pretty. Good worker I don't deserve until decorated with trainer and my patients is very limited in like if you just get it, I thought to because. Lots of kind of came natural for me. So we can't just get what is wrong with you what are. You. At their only they're, they're pretty good at advanced intermediate like, okay I'm your guy but I move at not I'm terrible but all the was on phenomenal worker but phenomenal trainer give him credit I think Dr Thomas. Probably, the best person I've ever like trained with. But probably right underneath it would be it would be a school over John so he was tremendous I would really go down there because us there for short term for excellent amongst. All so great and then I would come back and I would like trying to there's a few of us that went and then we train everyone else but to also my. I actually call my practices we run Tuesday and Saturday mornings, and then I'd go there on Mondays and Wednesday evenings and then practices I joked about it not to about what were we thinking talking about your bump part and do like we do a warm up progressions we all do different roles and different bombs and everything. And we do some big bump. It'd be like the second world schoolboy or top this whenever, and then we're going to move and you had land every move perfectly three times in a row he messed up you gotta start over again. Wow, and we were and this is every time and it was you know body Sam suplexes back body drops. You'll this and it was so many bumps. This is also just the beginning of practices like all these roles of bombs than always lose by. Two hours in. Practice after we take him about. Feel. Great is perfect. Let's go. You'll find you know we're all young and stupid. The more the Merrier so and he had to talk with the bump card and I think about it now. I would have been there. Some Kid told me Oh. We're going to talk you my trump boxing. I'm I really even even when I was warming up after his bypass surgery coming back with my debut US wrestling I thought they. Just retraining myself I. Don't think if you bump into a couple of. Like. Other. Come on here trying to bubble bunch but So yeah so there's like. Lots of. US. You know yards if you will. Lose was being trained in and that's why I considered. So Richard having matches, but I could hurt my first throw match with because because the damn pro. And then then. Probably. I was when I really started working all the indies throughout California I've got my own. Place at enjoy shortly after that. Kind of folded and it just it just and loved it too and was like. Just days after I've done. One of my favorite things most fun things have done your related. As as my Chris, get more more It was very much a team effort is there much each wwl everyone like have. This. Fisher this. Take care of this it was. Then became more and more me became more and more me I was doing everything else for like myself a five year so like it was like, Oh, the help pay all me and then I I'm here turn to my own. Thank you. So slowly just kind of tapered down had a our main we worked from venues our main venue we had. The vets hall was like the Best One ended up getting condemned, and then We one bar, two of us can sell somebody else. We had this one of them I. We want. WanNa go there anymore. You know what just had like one big farewell like finish Oh and instead of just stopping just Gordon it just 'cause like I can see the direction was going and I'm like, yeah, I was Kinda. Helping out losing flusher I'm I'm constantly on me and I want to go you know make myself. Where I WANNA BE Just have kind of a farewell lascaux. Was So the first match with Canyon walked me through that. Are you nervous onto I mean he's your buddy, but it's canyon wrestling on your show. Where's your head at? I was super nervous. I was I was so tired sooner. We Watch the match I look like so like like all my natural and again, it was not many natural movement because I'm still pretty green but like I just see like like my face and only inter- like inbetween stuff was just so like nomin page like so nervous going on I don't WanNa move left until he moves right and so you know I remember I don't want us to something like okay I just your natural instinct or movement are all whole how would we do like like Ricky Bobby from? I know I don't know. Let's as a mascot cooking dinner. It's nerves out the window. It's great I remember to I. I wanted to every single one of his moves like I was calling is informed with all. This. Like. I meant. The, finish. I didn't want to go over and he was incessant that that he that I go over. Germantown Ball Ball I like no but you know you're like, my guy, my mentor idol actually the gala she know I should lose. You can times and then finally beat you a payment I what you're saying I love we russell a million times, and then finally we made Russell you finally get your big win it goes but I don't mean pessimistic was. Going to happen that way right I'm like, oh Look what just just take the win and like okay and flatliners flatliners me that he gives you the big lift you want the end and I will behind them, school Wyoming one-two-three and their the building was so hot. So hot there's some people there she'll get. Hot. Summer and the went out just fans like and it was and even I wasn't mad about Peta are like the It was carpet was like that. that I'll she practically kind of canvas Alibaba but because we're also sweating, it was so slippery. So as I roll him up, he's like in the reveries counting he's sliding side towards the road through up begin to the roads and we the REPTI- back accounted you know accidentally just make sure like the finishes get blown. A big celebration. Everyone comes from locker room fixing up on the shoulder. Nobody knew I tell anybody who finished nobody knew? It was such a real moment and it was it was so great and then he goes back on the Mike and then he gets a problem. He gets he got an excellent. He'll promo for match. From on the demand Brian by kind of tells. So a little bit of story that I told. I think it was back like in this character and I kinda filled up a little bit which is funding problems behind it, and then he goes you answer the question. who were the Kate are better? Who Better the canyon still the whole crowd was nobody and he has his title he brought out and he goes but maybe tonight it was UK Djing Pat on the Gilman is awesome. So yeah, it was it was great man remember man I remember I remember commentary on the DVD over it I remember Why Juggling said I felt like I was just kissed by originally except that you just trust them Rachel McAdams right I. Just basically begun and I could be done tomorrow at that point and it'd be pretty satisfied like it was such a surreal moment and i. I bring up that the sliding towards the ropes because a few months later Hurricane Katrina hit. And Candian hits me up. He goes. Hey You know I, I wanted to donate for for her patron relief and I'm watching this are match back I'm kind of thinking. The referee kind of fast counted I got Kinda. Got Screwed in a way. Why don't we do it again, we rent it back. There's some bring my own rap wild like the hill thing was big angle and get you commissioner that he's involved like not like storyline based on the super. Match base they will do do a big thing. I wanted to ask you. WanNa do that and we'll do a big thing to raise money for Red Cross with a Hurricane Katrina and wants to you know benefit show on like. Jack you had to be sold on a mass yet were. So he came back again in October was in we just match up with this show called rumble for release. And then it's so like the first maximum favorite but say much still really great but it is. kind of built in storyline aspect into it, and we do everything set up before during the show and we have the big wrath and of course that he gets down the rest comes back in nine yard doing great and then I get to go again but. I was fantastic and then then it was a probably about like. If I don't know nine months later. When I packed up and moved out to Atlanta to stay with him to come out. So Dude, incredible man, tell me what your resume match the one thing the top of your resume. Man. That's rough That matches almost like one of the most important fund me but I think for modern Brian Cage I'll give you. Want me to just one in American one a elsewhere. It'd be Mash with elegant Versi last year I really love that match especially the. injured, next been wrestling and the the what we offers great and then match. Nakajima from pro wrestling Noah is is was unbelievable. I love that match what stands out about that match. just Just like the deftly sow like is worked world s and the crowd was just so unglued for us and like sewer behind me you know he'll everything just i. felt those got like just had perfectly matched perfectly in the story and and any book that upper while people forget the big world shot I. Don't know it just it just. An had awesome. Array of like. Like striking my Julia jobs a lot of power like just talked with big You pretty much the full package of of how versatile I wasn't and every which way an elbow one is. It's obsolete because have working small Guy Checker, big powerhouse guy and I'm the baby. So I of with the NGO come the underdog, which is hard to get me in that position kind different both to different tells there and then a honorable mention. Would be my match with one really really good. Morning Brandon Bonham. It was actually my PWG debut I remember wanted Russell Bond for years. I. Wonder if everyone wants repeatedly g before I left. to developmental signed, and then afterward finally, happy exactly as Bonhams shoebridge one sound and it was. So he walked out to not as a match great I love that match but I walked out to the WHO the fuck are you chance Due to in the middle of it, you know this is awesome and then let's go. Let's go bomb them and at the end of the match in both. Everyone's. Standing. Applause and then please come back chance. So literally from the book to come back. So that was an amazing. Of winner that crowd dudes fucking bad, ass. Well, as we get ready to wind down here, looking through once we get through Cova and all this shit order I mean obviously you got plans you've got some big plans because I hope next time you come back on the show you're going to have that e w strap around your waist but with that being said, what's your plan here for the next year? Man You know I, mean I love you. Baby title Woodhams the year but I'll tell it just just stay healthy and really just have a bunch of I kick ass Max's man because been great there and I love what's going on but I talked about how much that Nakajima? Match shows versus Hillary like I really haven't even scratched the surface like there's a bunch of people who are so committed w why was going into it by? The fact that there's plenty of Noida able rank ages in the first time seeing me. and. They haven't seen a whole lot and to funding I don't I I. Don't. Think face I feel like I can brought I'm trying to get hotshot in from how I look I think to the top and I. Always. Brought into the he'll. Always such a Like a lacklustre. I don't mean like what like I? Know I'm. One of four. No, they're flames trae plan. It's just like, okay. I'm the big me head jerk boy from high school and. Just sits like a not gimmick at all my God and it's fine. But I was a wanted to Volve A and B myself wall that way I have more natural charisma reactions and so on. So on. More depth to the character you just you. Yeah, exactly Donald Trump. Go Yeah. A., and especially, the past talking for me I like the big you know. bouncer be had bully like, Hey, I'm going to beat you up like. It's fine to introduce me but I can't wait to jeff doing more. I'm looking forward to, and then you know even wash not just finding easy from of a border like out there and really really haven't some awesome matches. Pfizer matches from death matches just that that death like more depth deputy. And and just. Oh well, I. Really Really Cango Democracy match was was was fine and we did some stuff but he Was a I feel like there's Minimal Don's convertible. We could have done, which is fine. Get the slow burn. You don't want to give them everything at one. Yeah. But I I'm really looking forward to You know really coming unglued and just going one hundred miles an hour with with so we healthcare could be such a great. Lineup of talent and I haven't worked like. Any of them well, as a fan dude, it's cool to kind of see that evolution in see you develop even more and really excited to see what comes here in e w and then dude beyond because again, you're a huge talent and thanks for taking the time to come on first match brother. Workman no word. Fun Punch. Seen that's going to do it wrapping up another episode of first match. Thank you once again to Brian Cage for joining us up next week to WHO'd a Wwe Hall of Famer. I'll tell you exactly who it is here just a second, but I want to thank the official clothing, the air of first match that would be Georgia print house you WanNa first match t-shirt, of course. You do you can look into the description of this podcast and you can get a link to get hooked up one of those t shirts. But there are made by Georgia Print House teeny Jerome Promotional t-shirts taken care of they can do it the screen printing the embroideries. They can do stickers, vinyls the whole deal Georgia print house Georgia print house dot com get out on today. Jesse Cage -CENTIA. Okay. Next week one half of the rock and Roll Express. So stoked about this one man Ricky Morton jumps in the first match time machine.

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10/29/20 HOUR 2- Chris Mannix

The Dan Patrick Show

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10/29/20 HOUR 2- Chris Mannix

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You've never traveled quite like this get the vice news reports podcast on the iheartradio APP, apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox sports radio. Welcome to the program already in progress tower two on this Thursday Dan in the Danettes and Patrick Show. Not sure if baseball is going to discipline Justin Turner, they're looking into this I reached out to a source last night and I asked that question can baseball discipline Justin Turner or just the dodgers in my source said, they can discipline Turner but I think the Players Union fighted I'm guessing the dodgers and Turner will both be fine but he won't be suspended perfect ending for a pandemic season ll. Baseball's investigating this baseball needs to investigate baseball. Justin, Turner. Act We, went out on the field and celebrated and he took his mask off at one point a couple of times there. But Major League baseball security is not very secure. This isn't on the dodgers it's starts with Major League Baseball I. Hope the Commissioners Investigating Major League Baseball because once you take him out of the game where do you take? And should he have been able to stay at the stadium? Is He's sequestered should he have been taken back to a hotel room? I didn't know if he was getting his stuff together. He was still uniform the season's over but he said I am going out there. He was adamant that he was going out there. Baseball, security. What could they have done? What did they try to do? We know about Justin. Turner he wanted to be out there with his teammates I understand why you would want to be out there but it was a selfish move on his part. Major League baseball if you take him off the field, are you taking him out of the stadium and if not, why not and where do you keep him in the stadium and keep him in the room? What happens when the game ends where security go to they go onto the field do they go to protect the commissioner? And Justin Turner just sitting in a room going. Anybody here opened the doors unlocked. I'm going to go out on the field and celebrate but from what I'm told last night. Source, WHO's involved in this says? I'm guessing the dodgers and Turner will both be fine but he won't be suspended. Yes paulie. It's such an unprecedented situation because Justin Turner sitting back there. He's been totally the field by MLB and his team just one. If they lost, he'd probably go back to the hotel and do what he's going to do. But since they won the security price thinking well, he's going to stay back here and then at some point, they can't physically. Restrain them I'm guessing could not physically restraint and besides the fact, these Kobe positive the fact that I don't know if they could restrain a major league ballplayer and that's in their scope of authority and he just said. Try To stop me. That's what I WANNA know. What did Major League baseball do try to do not able to do that? Allow Justin Turner to go onto the field. Eight seven seven three DP show email address TPS. Dan Patrick. Dot Com spent a little time in the first hour. I gave an update on a Nebraska football. I told you yesterday around this time about Wisconsin football that the game against Nebraska was in doubt and that Graham merge their starting quarterback. He was participating in team activities I'll give you exactly what I said Wisconsin Update for my source Mertz in all likelihood add cova prior to the game but tested negative was at all the team activities leading up to the game. So it's spread throughout the team a significant number of. Positives this week game with Nebraska growing doubtful, and that was at ten ten eastern time yesterday, and then we found out about an hour later that the game indeed was canceled I did reach out to my source last night and I just said this is a nightmare for the big ten and he said it's not GonNa get any better great deal of trial and error, and in the end you're not in a bubble. So players will get it Nebraska wanted to schedule a non conference game this week as soon as they found out yesterday, what was happening with Wisconsin Nebraska reached out. To a couple of schools to see if they wanted to come to Lincoln Nebraska this weekend. Now, my source also said the twenty one day isolation was an overreaction to mow myocarditis and there wasn't enough data. Am I source says I can't imagine the purdue Wisconsin game will be played next week. So that's just an update on some of the things that we have been talking about. Also the Houston Chronicle is saying that the Texans should consider trading. Jj. Watt we looked at that. Now it's not a report that's just a suggestion that they should trade or lease look into trading jj watt I understand it because you're not going anywhere this year and if I can get jj watt, you know off the salary cap maybe I get something in return. I'd be looking at if I'm some of these teams like, what can I get for my? And also you know, are we rebuilding a reloading the Texans I thought we're going to rebuild a reload this year they should be rebuilding. Their teams contending teams that would probably be interested in JJ WATT and I don't want to do this and try to create something. That's not there I'm just looking at what what would be realistic. What is the possibility that this could happen? What is something that would work for both teams if you could get a late first round pick or a second round pick for Jj Watt right now, if I'm the Texans as much as a pr hit is that's going to be. I would still do it. Because you don't have fans in the stands. So the PR hit is not as powerful because they're not they're booing you they're not not showing up and you're not going anywhere with J. Watt who is an older thirty one years of age with all of his injuries. And I had ethan draw up some numbers on the teams that would need Jj Watt Ethan does stance here. The League wide average of quarterback pressures is thirty six percent of pass place here or the contending teams with the lowest pressure rate. Packers number one. Number two titans number three, colts, four cardinals, five seahawks, six seahawks just got Carlos Dunlap from the bengals. That's a nice pickup for them. I don't know if the packers and he goes back to Wisconsin would make a lot of sense feels like it would but I don't know what the packers would be willing to give up. It appears the packers might be interested in somebody else in the Texans will. Fuller their wide receiver Matt Leflore was at Notre Dame on the staff at Notre. Dame, he's the head coach the packers when will fuller was a notre dame wide receiver there's a little bit of a connection there mclovin. We have a poll question today. By the way we say, good morning to our radio and TV partner. You can watch on peacock and listen on our great radio affiliates around the country. Okay would you trade a first round pick for JJ WATT? If you're super bowl contender eighty, six percents had no well consider where that first round pick is going to be. It's not going to be probably one through twenty, three, twenty four and if I could get jj watt if I, know as healthy. Seattle gives up the twenty eighth pick in the draft for JJ Watt right now. Sure. I'd consider that it's you have the window of opportunity to win. And you have to take advantage of that. That's why I thought if I'm Kansas City. I would certainly do a drive by now. Would they trade him to the Kansas City chiefs? If I'm Kansas City I want to strengthen my team but I want to weaken your team I wanna make sure that you don't get jj watt and we do and even if I rotating out if I get him out there for you know Fifteen twenty plays. I only need him to play big in a big game in the playoffs like that's what I want, and if I could get him and I'm giving up thirty first thirty second pick in the draft. Sure I consider that yeah club I have a question about Ethan's lists by Ethan. Calming said he would have pulled Blake Snell. Okay is that Ethan? All right Who are we all contenders on the packers, bills, titans, colts, cardinals, and Seahawk. Yeah. Like our that as a team Mike the Titans or the cardinals enough. They're. They're like, Hey, it's time to go in on this. Well, the titans aren't getting anything out of JV on cloudy. And I don't know if they look at that and say, well, he's getting healthier he's improving or whatever it might be. The cardinals is it possible that they could be a contender as early as this year? Well, they lost Chandler Jones for the year and that was the only thing I thought and you're in a tough division. You'RE NOT GONNA have four teams, make the playoffs it feels like. Green Bay Seattle. Pittsburgh reunite with his brother if I'm Green Bay and I'm GonNa Trade for someone I'm going to trade a first round pick for Julio Jones he's the exact same age as J. J. J. Watt get him for first round draft pick. Okay. Let's say you were the GM of the I would take Julio Jones. Then you get the first round pick and you get the second or third pick in the draft, and now you've got some draft capital. Well if I'm if I'm Green Bay, I trade for Julio Jones, and if you're in Atlanta, you would probably do the same. I. Would need more than a first round pick for Julio. She's thirty one. He's had a very good career. He's almost always healthy early in his career he is banged up at lately the past five years he's healthy. Your they're not going anywhere in the next three years. ATLANTA. No but I need more than a first round draft pick for Julio Jones, the why would the packers want to add a receiver I? mean their offense is cooking with gas like. I think you could find a spot for Julio. Jones but you're not gonNA give up. I for an older receiver like honestly you're you're wasting the window of Aaron Rodgers. Is Born of his best years? Julio Jones there's nowhere to go up he's been nearly perfect. Yeah. Where you go up to the podium when they hand you the Super Bowl trophy while we know there's never been a number one wide receiver who's been part of a team. There's ever been a great receiver part of a super bowl team. That's not how you win look at the Patriots you know. Randy Moss ever wanted to title. I got really close though you got close but I holy never won a title like. Me had they were one or two plays away from winning, and he had one of the great catches clutch catches in Super Bowl history that went for naught people forgot about because they lost that super bowl. So if I gave you the choice back to wife who is a younger like real stud defensive end or Julio Jones like which. Have Carlos Dunlap or you can have Julio Jones down map was like a six round pick though but nobody's very good. I don't care where I don't care where you're drafted. No I'm just saying they traded a six round pick for Malecki was pretty much. Okay. Yes. Because power improved the cardinals cuyler Murray's development by adding Hopkins for a second round. Pick. Seems like seems drastic to me. and. I helped and I know that WHO Jones Different Than Hopkins, he's older maybe not as explosive put in Aaron Rodgers is good without receivers, but it seems like he could be quite a bit better. It just feels like this is how close I was to take in the packers if the packers had gotten CD lamb or one of these receivers in the first round I was GonNa take the packers to go to the Super Bowl. I thought if the packers got CD lamb. That they would be they would win the NFC. That's how close I was taking them. And, then they passed on a wide receiver, a pass on a wide receiver again and again and again. and. They took running back. Glove. They were thirteen and three last year and they're I. Think they're the Vegas favorite in the NFC. This show they're getting close they're they're awesome. But Imagine Heaven Julio Jones I don't think that's what they lack i. think Rogers is just fine with these guys. So you wouldn't make any changes. Why are they interested in will fuller? report. But I see they're passing game is awesome. The PROB they're concerned is be great on defense and to get the NFC nobody's great on defense. Suffer Pittsburgh. But if you're Green Bay who would make more of an impact Jj Water Julio Jones on bigger picture probably JJ. Because they're already Davante Adams is plainly the best receiver in the. NFL. With sick back, I would take. This is all about offense. The NFL is it's not about defense but the packers you know Mala Flora, they want to run the ball to keep the defense off the field. You know they they wanna be a mix. I know I know I understand it that'd be really hard to pounce upon Julio Jones is Julio. He's thirty one to. Feels like he's still pretty elite by way your guy CD lamb had ninety nine catches last year. CD Lamb five targets. Last week three drops. Zero catches. Yeah. He he's another one of those cowboys who disappointed he show town they're trying to Nell trade I guess Amari Cooper. Do they come to the realization that this was bad contract. Jerry. This program brought to you by Breeders, Cup November sixth and seventh world's best thoroughbreds compete in fourteen exhilarating races at the Breeders Cup World Championships Learn More Breeders Cup dot com slash twenty, twenty, catch all the action live on NBC Sport Anthony in Vegas joins US Anthony. Good morning what is on your mind? Wanted EP. Actually I got a stat of the day for this Sunday actually So according to the Elias Sports Bureau Sunday's matchup between the and Ravens Seems Mike Tomlin and Ravens John harbaugh would become the first pair of head coaches in the Super Bowl era to top twenty five times in the regular season. I. Think. That's pretty cool. All right also also Paulie I'm also watching West Wing and I'm on with the season four. So I'm not looking forward to season five I've never watched it before so And Thank you. Anthony. I never seen West Wing. I would recommend it Dan the first four seasons are great TV and it's not overly political. It's very fun. Then it kind of goes squirrelly and season five gets better season six and seven. There's so many shows that I never saw. I never saw him. So I'll go west wing over your Sopranos never sold that. You got some time now with no no compulsory week. Oh No I don't have any time I got Cobra Kai taking up all my attention. Yes. See West Wing Er feel like they could be the same show. West wing or yeah West Wing or see my David that todd I added the are. Thank you John Yes mclovin I'm applying I think west. Wings. CUT ABOVE I've been watching Yar studio saying when I WORKED SECOND SHIFT AT ESPN I missed out on all those shows because I worked at night I never saw any of those shows for what ten years I was working second shift is know fifteen years working second shift I read this great story. About. The making of the west wing and Aaron Sorkin and the producers are trying to hire these different actors and they didn't want big names. They Wanna like meat potatoes, good actors, and the network said, you need to hire some more good looking people they like you can't have all these people who are very, you know whatever they were and they go. All right. What we're going to bring in Rob Lowe to be one of the president's speechwriters like there you go. Now you're now you're getting maybe I have a problem with Aaron sorkin like subconsciously because Aaron Sorkin. He produced sportsnight. and. It was supposed to be based based on sportscenter and Keith Olbermann and myself. And, we gave all these story lines. They didn't use any of those story lines and then you'd watch the show and you go. Then that's not how it is. I'm assuming news the newsroom looks like a newsroom sounds and feels like a newsroom but watching sports night and you had a great cast. But it did not resemble sportscenter. We're telling the writers where we're sitting down tell them all the crazy stuff that goes on when you you know get ready to show and you're putting on your own makeup somebody could be sitting in the stall while you put on your makeup running down to the sets you know leak in the roof one night just over the set of sports and like all these crazy things that happen there, and then we start to watch the show and we go. This isn't a fun. Maybe I subconsciously blame Aaron, Sorkin. Yes Macleod. I think West is the Tom Petty of TV shows for Paulie now when he could fix as. Early two thousand project. Oh, my. Gosh. Aware this pause and watching West Wing lately a lot of it. Yeah. And he's been listening to a lot of Tom. Petty like two years in this is like fritzy stuck in the eighties polly stuck in the nineties here. At Tom Petty Channel. Right with probably by way late nineties early two thousands and put it in my vein. That's great. Chris Mannix is GONNA join US coming up I want to talk to him about Wendy the NBA season start because there's a real tug of war here between the owners they want Christmas Day that's a big deal and the players are not going to stand for that. They WANNA wait another month after that I also WanNa ask him you got Daryl Morey going to Philadelphia and it feels like Doc Rivers Daryl Maureen got, Elton Brand in there in the front office and you got that roster What team that's going to look like what kind of changes does he stay with those? Two Stars there. Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid. Are the clippers interested in Rajon Rondo and would they be interested in Rajon Rondo if he didn't play for the Lakers? So mannix will join us coming up top of the hour. The hall of Famer Johnny Bench is cleaning out his addict. He's selling all of his memorabilia and we'll talk to him about that as well. We'll get to more phone calls eight, seven, seven, three DP show email address tps. Dan Patrick. 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Today October twenty ninth is the anniversary of Lebron James NBA debut that was October twenty, nine, two, thousand, and three when the Braun in the cavs lost at Sacramento One oh six, ninety, two in his debut. Lebron played forty two minutes and there was a sellout crowd of seventeen thousand at Sacramento's Arco Arena eighteen days ago. Lebron played forty one minutes and went thirteen of twenty from the floor in an empty arena and the Lakers won the title so he started out. Twelve of twenty in his debut and last. Eighteen days ago was thirteen of twenty in his final game for this season. So Stephen Silence gets the call for the Houston Rockets. Yes Paul Michael Jordan never lost to the Kings in his rookie debut. Well true story. Yeah, you're right. I don't need his stats. James in Virginia. James. Oh, thanks for taking my call brother. Happy. Thursday. We Are Washington. All right. And then, I, you know I love you sit back and listen you guys. You guys chop it up like no command. Loving, man, you kinda pushing me to the edge today man with this why receiver talk first of all man Julio Jones probably is one of the best receivers in the game spilled is six foot three and four or five and catches nothing but touchdowns in hundred hundred recession. Fees. And as far as not great receiver winning the Super Bowl. I. Mean I go back to the eighties with our mums in dairy rice in the nineties Jerry Rice it Michael Irvin. You've got the greatest show on turf where charring home. Bruce I mean, it just goes on and on and came home greg receiver keyshawn Johnson like you can just keep adding them up. Now I will say you gotTa have great defense is a team oriented game and receivers don't win they're on their own. But when you can you Julio Jones on the Green Bay packers. Man I already told you I got no win in the NFC I take it all things from James. James, had a problem with you make love yes. So just to be clear James Putting San Antonio homes and Jerry Rice in the same conversation is great wide receivers. I don't essentially a homes a great receiver. Neither. It was just a system in Pittsburgh who happen to be there in the second. By Joy Jones thirty one. That's all upset. Of course. What about favorite receivers of all time but I don't know dividing never heard you say one nice thing about who Jones before I'm I'm full on Julio Jones Guy always have been. He's not a system wide receiver. Know Julio Julio Calvin. Johnson. To receiver guys I like they just score touchdown hand the ball, the official. He's now clearly the Calvin Release The star there I've been whole. You'll have a big game but you know he's thirty one isn't that for years I don't know when the the cliff usually is if you could get a first round pick for Julio Jones near the Falcons Gio. Oh, I don't think he'd get the first two rounds for oil. I mean I'd be shocked if anyone would give up a first round for Julio visit, thirty one and he's expensive. I don't know if anything happens prior the trade deadline. Every year we talk about the possibilities and then nobody gets traded. More phone calls coming up Chris Mannix, joining us and senior NBA writer for sports illustrated. Let me start with the schedule Mannix and the importance of the NBA coming back and playing these games on Christmas Day. What do you think? I mean, the NBA understands that at least for the first quarter of twenty, twenty one, it's highly unlikely that we see fans in the stadium. So to maximize their revenue, it's as simple as maximizing their games at by starting the season during Christmas week, you can squeeze in a seventy two game schedule that end sometime in late June, and that's that's equally important. Dan To this process as well. I. Mean. Adam silver has said this to me. He says, others they want to get out next year before the start of the scheduled Olympics they don't want to be playing deep into the summer and competing with Yep swimming and track and field and things that people watch during Olympic Cycle. They want to be out out a normal time sneaking reset their calendar going into twenty twenty, one, twenty, twenty, two seasons. So by starting in late December, they can get as many games as possible. They can fulfill their regional sports contract, which is important, maximize those national contracts, and at least generate as much revenue as they possibly can. But the players unions going to push back on this. The players union has push back on. This will push back on Michelle Roberts, her comments this week to the athletic in line with everything she said to other reporters including me I mean, I spoke to her back in August and aster about the specific question knowing the NBA would probably want to get back at some point December, she said to me that twenty twenty just didn't feel like a realistic possibility now here you are. A couple of months before a pencil didn't start date and Michelle Roberts is saying the exact same things. Now understand there are probably half the teams in the league that are going to be ready to go. You had eight teams that didn't go bubble of effectively been off since March you've got another half dozen teams that were done in mid August I mean there are teams out there that are ready for that start. You can't underestimate the power of one team and the power of one player Lakers and Lebron this process and I talked to a player just last night and he told me he's like if Lebron doesn't WANNA play, we're not playing so. It probably isn't as simple as that but Lebron, James will have a big influence in this process explain to me what the seventy sixers are going to look like when they take the floor this upcoming season now that you bring in Doc rivers, you Daryl Morey in there as well what kind of style and we'll have the same lineup on the floor. I mean that's the question. Right I. Mean I think the biggest the biggest question you have now is. What does this mean for Joel? Embiid Ben Simmons now before Daryl Morey was hired, it was almost mortal lock that you would see Simmons mb back with this team together. It's probably likely that you see Simmons embiid back to start next season but Daryl Morey is a free will in general manager who has not been afraid in the past to shake up his roster and make significant move and he's an general manager that basis a lot. Of his philosophies on analytics, an texting with other GM's they. They kind of said, the same thing they were like I wonder what this means for for 'em. Bean Simmons will. Daryl. Look to move one of those guys to create a more modern NBA like embiid is Great Simmons despite the fact that he can't shoot is a great player, but they don't necessarily fit the modern. NBA MVP The low post presence Simmons, a NANRI point shooter. I think it's going to bear watching in the next month two months how Daryl Morey views this roster nippy thinks that embiid and Simmons can play yet but also you have Stephen Silas Silos taking over in. HOUSTON. So no Mori, no Dan Tony and what's that mean for the style of the Houston Rockets? Well. First and foremost Stephen. Silas is an excellent coach like he has been effectively coach in waiting for the better part of the last four or five years i. mean he was considered strongly for that Houston back in two thousand sixteen before Mike Dan Tony. was hired forties been considered strongly for another handful of jobs since then he's got a great background if you go back all the way to his early days, Steph curry and Klay Thompson were two players that that worked really well with him back into Golden State. So all that being said, rockets are at almost impossible coaching job at. This point I don't think they're style of play changes simply because it can't like they're not going to go out there and suddenly have salary cap space. They're not going to be able to significantly alter their front court to add another big man I think Stephen Solid is going to have his own twist on some things but in Houston barring a substantial deal involving James Harden I don't believe you can change the way they play significantly enough to make a difference. He's Crisp sports illustrated NBA senior writer I'm looking at the clippers. There was a little chatter about maybe Chris Paul coming back. Rajon Rondo with the clippers. What kind of moves can the clippers make to counter? What's going to be an extremely strong? West again, next season stabbing their extremely limited in what they can do. They don't have the draft capital to make trade that don't really have the assets in general whether it's young players or otherwise to make a deal. What they do have are some of these salary exceptions and you can throw an exception at a Rajon Rondo and Rondo. Look his stock hasn't been this high since he left Boston simple simple data Amini the way he played in the playoffs proving once again, he's on a championship level. The clippers could certainly use something like that. When Patrick Beverley went down in the playoffs, they really missing something at that position Rondo can bring something. To that slot so I think you're going to see in Los Angeles with the clippers some nibbling around the fringes a little bit. You'll see maybe a Rondo added or other big men added, but I still think it's more likely than not that the clippers dig deep into the pocket book bring back some of the players they have as free agents whether it's mantras Harrell or Marcus Morris or Michael Green and try to run this thing back. That's kind of the message Dan they were sending when they brought in. Thai Lou Lou is an excellent coach. Also coach that can. Be Continuity that can help that team hit the ground running whenever next season starts so I think they bring this band largely back together, I couldn't help but think when Lebron was celebrating the title. The Confetti. Immediately thinking, who can I get on this roster like what are we add and there was talk about Chris Paul that can you bring in Chris Paul Jeannie Chris Paul Lebron just had an incredible season as your point guard. What are the Lakers add or subtract? While I. I don't know that there's much room for them to add or subtract a either for largely the same reasons that you know the the clippers APP with the Lakers are gonNA slightly different position in that in the summer of twenty, twenty one, they could have some pretty significant salary cap flexibility. They could make some moves where I believe they'll be right around thirty million dollars in available cap space depending on what they do with some of these contracts this off season. So bare their goal to make a significant change probably lies in the summer of Twenty Twenty one the Chris Paul You, Chris Paul makes like seventy, five, billion dollars whatever it is. One of the biggest contracts and that's an exaggeration Chris. That's an exact. Perhaps it's over the time. But if you're acquiring crispell, you've gotta basically got your team or deal a big big name player and really be wearing to roll the dice. That's why a team like Milwaukee still. Looms. Strongest candidate to extract Chris Fall from Oakland which I believe is going to happen. Yeah. They could use him more than anybody and if they had Chris Paul this past season I, think it would have been different. I think he would have meant that much to them. And you can. You can make it work in the walking you can put together a combination of Eric Bledsoe George Hill. You can sweeten the pot with Dante, even Jen's O or a draft pick you can make an appealing off her. To to a team like Oklahoma City if you're the bucks. It's a no brainer I mean worst case scenario Janas leaves after next season, you're stuck with one extra year of a big contract with Chris Paul. After the twenty, one, twenty, two season, you would wipe the book space to clean the start from scratch. So there is there is no easier move or more of a no brainer moved to make than Chris Paul going to Milwaukee before I. Let you go I know you you're not married, but you fall in love a lot when it comes to the NBA draft. Have you fallen in love with somebody? But a little bit. I'm a this recorded I'm a I'm a big James Lies Guy big. James. Wiseman. I don't know what to compare him to I. See a little bit of David. Robinson's game in him from back in the day he's a hyper athletic seven foot. One Guy who I think it'd be is drafted by Golden State with the number two pick in the draft. He's going to be a player there for a long time and he's going to be affected for that team. Almost immediately, I think whether it's a trainer Anthony Edwards. That's probably number one pick for Golden State sitting there at number two I if they don't make a deal I think James Watson's their guy I think he's One of the best player in the straps. Yes. mclovin Chris I. Know You've been the bubble for while if you've been there since one, thousand, nine, hundred, Eighty, eight, have you noticed that US senators will matter anymore? Athletic centers who can run the floral James Wiseman played for Penny Hardaway down in Memphis that I was talking to penny about this recently. Penney used to show wiseman all these tapes of Shack and Wiseman, such a young guy that he viewed shack is kind of this. The lumbering big man we saw with the Lakers he forgot and you know this and nineteen ninety s Jack ran the floor shack was one of the most athletic big men in the NBA I think wise men's down a little bit of that in a little bit of a ability to dominate and run the Oakland floor. What about my guy from? Israel. Now. Now you get into deep in the weeds for me, there Danny yes Danny. Evita. A diva. I'm not even touching that you don't even going this. I know who he is, but I don't know enough to count. He looks he he looks great. Denny. At D. Shia. Help. We're ochre rolling on this stuff to not just my I've already said it before this. Okay. Yup because but he Could. Wind up being Nicholas Keita's. Knitting, and Nicholas Skittish vealy could was just a tall guy that was it. Then you can. Then he can be dragging bender or Mario Arizona or Raphael Arroyo or any of the other international imports Dante exum. Accident Injury issues. That's why not ex didn't. Say Hold on I should say is an. Excellent Opportunity in Cleveland this year Oh yeah they're talking about him. Hey. Thank you. Chris. I appreciate your time as always. got. Chris Mannix. I don't know about this guy who's I think is parents. One of his parents is Israeli and the other Serbian is so one of them comes from the Serbian Basketball Program the Dad I think okay. So yeah, he's got an. Yeah. I don't know you hear his player and nothing really comes to mind there aren't a lot. Israeli. Player. Yeah. There are a lot of Serbian players I just and I don't know if it's the unknown probably. So but when you think of the NBA draft, this is all unknown James Wiseman played what eleven games for. MEMPHIS. got. Lamelo ball played overseas. These guys are usually one in done. So there is a a mystery to them, but this guy, I just saw some of his highlights I unlike Luca don-shik where I actually saw a couple of actual games, which is where you get a true or sense of just how good somebody is because you can piece together the highlighting of guys unbelievable. But in the flow of the game, the context of the game, that's where you saw Luca, he would take over and make big plays at big moments and it wasn't just highlights put together obviously far better than anybody thought he would I gave you. Some information from my source Nebraska as of yesterday was trying to find a replacement opponent since Wisconsin couldn't go to Nebraska due to Kovin. Well, it looks like Nebraska founded ponant. We'll talk about that coming up next year on the Dan Patrick. Show thanks for listening to the Dan Patrick Show podcast. Sure to catch US live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox sports radio, and you can find us on the iheartradio APP at Fsr or stream it live on the peacock out. What's up I am machine gun Kelly and look I know Halloween is GonNa suck this year because there's no trick or treating and all that. But. I've got a tree. Does. 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It's more phone calls I mentioned earlier in the show, my college football source told me that when Nebraska found out, Wisconsin could not get their team ready to Kovic to travel to Lincoln Nebraska. Nebraska. was on the phone yesterday morning trying to find an opponent for this weekend. Didn't hear anything yesterday but I have heard something. Today and it's being reported the University of Tennessee Chattanooga and Nebraska close to finalizing an agreement to play this Saturday. In Lincoln Nebraska the Chattanooga Times free press has learned through multiple sources. The cornhuskers game against Wisconsin canceled earlier this week the game is awaiting approval from the big ten conference, which had previously set an eight-game Conference only schedule this fault and keep in mind when all of this was going. On when Nebraska was going to go rogue and if the big ten was into playing, then Nebraska was gonNA secede from the big ten at least for a season and they got spanked by the big ten when they got back together and they decided Okay Nebraska you WanNa play football you start your season going to Ohio state I was told that they did that on purpose to punish Nebraska now Nebraska's. Trying to play a game, they need big approval and I can't imagine they're getting get big ten approval for this weekend. Pauline Dan, we have an update and you know how much I love ut Chattanooga mocks football not good news according to Adam. Written Berg. Of Espn College Football Writer. The big ten is denied Nebraska's attempt to replace its canceled game against Wisconsin with FCS team ut Chattanooga sources tell them. Chattanooga had already tested staff and players Wednesday and came back negative but the game will not happen according to Espn College football reporter. I, don't know why Nebraska doesn't go through the big ten I to save embarrassment. Because if I know that, you're trying to schedule a game through my source. I'm going to guess the big ten's going wait a minute. Are they doing this behind our back it's one of those. Hey, we would rather. Beg For forgiveness than ask for permission. Why wouldn't you just say to the big ten? Is it? OKAY IF WE SCHEDULE A game? Polling and ut Chattanooga football had planned on playing a spring schedule that allowed in the practice and they were going to run up to Lincoln handle some business and come back to Chattanooga and it looks like they're denied. They are also, it appears that they were going to be paid. Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to go to Lincoln plus travel costs. So that would have been a big boost for their athletic department. Why don't you just call? Why don't you just ask the Big Ten Ken? We do this. My weekend's ruined. I would like to have watched it but. It just I don't know. I don't know why these schools don't go you know maybe we should ask for the BRASSICA look if you don't WanNa be in the big ten than don't be in the big ten in the big ten will not miss you. But it's not like Tom Osborne's walking through that door I am hip or Mike Rozier or Johnny Rodgers. Asked. For permission. Yes Todd, you have to have a Chattanooga with the appropriate parties are these are the things that are going to happen. See what you did everybody's going to be let down and bummed solid improving time. She will. By the way Tom Brady named NFC offense who player of the year Antonio Brown hasn't soldered practicing with the Tampa Bay buccaneers but according to head coach Bruce Arians he looked fantastic. I don't like. Did he walk in and he was dressed. Nice. You look fantastic. I would think he wanted to look fantastic when he takes the football field. When does he take the football field? If we got an update on Antonio Brown I? Think I saw next week week nine. I'll double check that. So not this game because he this is still the eight game suspension. Should it count if you're not on a roster? That, you have an eight game suspension, but you're not on a roster. Yes that's about on understand I know that he sat out eight weeks, but he wasn't on a team. So what does that count as a suspension? That's what I was wondering. That's what I wondering too. Yeah. We're wondering the same thing. Yeah. Doesn't make any sense. I got some. Comment from Bo Jackson that I wanNA play for you coming up next hour where he thinks he would average three hundred and fifty yards rushing per game. Todd Gurley also was told in the huddle by Matt Ryan. Make sure you don't score a touchdown. We'll have that for you coming up as well. I don't know how that happens. Because if you say Todd Gurley in the huddle, whatever you do don't score touchdown. 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Sasha back on the board we are rather beckett brazzaville back of the building brazzaville's back very excited browser back. How are you doing man are you. It's good to be back. It's good to be allowed to get away wherever you go. Why were you gone. Why why are you gone. When did you get back. I got back last night around eleven thirty. I took my son up to the manning passing academy in louisiana. It was a very cool experience for he. And i the logan. Can i just say this. I just say this that it's been a long time since i ran into start the pie. Good ask but allowing unite. If you would louisiana's great state like we had a great time but some of my interactions at louisiana airport at new orleans airport We're less than stellar less less than like the louis armstrong airport. I just had an awful experience with the lady at a at a at a rental car. Place like she. She got sideways. All in my business. As i asked a customer service lady about car availability. She was helping another customer and asked me. Why are you speaking her. Like just got off sideways. And i tried to defuse it and be cool and she just was like insistent maybe she had a bad day but then what she did was. She pocketed my reservation and made me sit there for like thirty minutes waiting on a car till i had to go up and be like that. I am i in the wrong place. Like what's going on. And so. I realized how this was going down and in my in my older age i actually did a good. I apologized for the interaction. Even though wasn't my fault. Because i could see where this was going and you know what she did after i apologize she do. She gave him my fucking car. Wow but she was going to hold that reservation for some petty a. She wanted that apology. You want that policy. And then. I had a woman as i to approach the plane. Do you get on a plane. I or last I an appoint. Usually i get on a plane. I guy sat out shutout united. No united person. So get on. I normally i don't like to. I don't like to wait on a plane right. I don't like to be sitting on eric. Stuffy so i like to get a last right so last late last. Okay okay. I mean like i don't have nothing has got to go into overhead. It's just backpack. Like i'm gonna get on last so as we get up and get on last the woman at the gate. After she takes the two people in front of our tickets. She shuts the door interface. Like other lady's face. I'm in line. i'm the last person in the line. She shut the door in our face as to say you're not getting funny output. But it's like you're over here like what i'm like. What the fuck. And she wasn't trying to be funny she was just too long. You ain't getting on his flight. So i had her damn like they close the big the big door delay in my face logo looking looking at seizure. Like i'm like. Oh on the plane. I have my tickets right here. She's like nah so you you're you're in. You're in like the circular thing that thing. The i don't know what to call it but the thing that goes into this was the gaijin i was in the waiting. I was trying to get through the first doors to get on the jetway. Played you clay to you. So that was my experience to back out. It won't affect my ability to pied they. Let's go oh. I know it won't but tam right for show okay You know speaking of which speaking of planes the The bucks and the sons have taken a plane to milwaukee for came six but before we talk about game six. You like that roger. I didn't like that game. Five man game five In which the bucks took. I just want to say real quick You weren't here on thursday. We had the legend seared. So he on and i. I changed my pick. I picked the sons to go in to win this and six last episode after the bucks in milwaukee. I picked it for sons. I mean production six. I picked him. I said i'm going to amend by pick and the bucks showed me why in game five they won. It was a weird game. Now we're going to get into why they want all these things. But i remember to start the game. The sun's went on this incredible and they were up sixteen in the first half. And but then you texted you. Put it in the chat. Tested me and sasha mac that yet a bad feeling about this and i was like what are you talking about because i started the exchange because i texted. I texted chat devon fucking booker because devon booker dunked all over yada so and he did the did the shoulder strut he he. He was locked in. He was like i'm here. I am devon booker. I am not letting us lose this game. Look right. And then. I hit the chat. Because you know i'm real. Dental book is one of my favorite players in the league. And i was like yes. Hail yes and then you immediately take back. I have a bad feeling about this. Why did you feel why did you have that bad feeling so early in the game when it seemed like the sun's at all the mighty moments of to start you know. Sometimes you have a gut feeling you know. I got back to the hotel light missed. I like four minutes of the game. Five minutes in. But i was keeping up on my phone and when i sat down the energy and the building was fantastic. The sons were flying high. And then i looked it was sixteen but i just sort of box with the level of poise. That was concerning like no one was released. They weren't getting out of themselves. They continued to run offense. And if i'm going to keep it. A buck logan it was. They had played so well. The sons that is and shot the ball so well and they hadn't really run away because it was sixteen but then it was back eleven right and it was sixteen and then it was at nine and i was like this isn't going to this isn't going to end welfare. The sons because there is hot. There hot hottest fisheries right now like everything is right. And they're not burying the bucks the other thing that i thought i thought they came up. Really fast you expended a lot of energy up front and it's like a you know it's like a marathon right like to use one of those silly cliches like you get out sprinting. Sometimes and you run out of gas. Not all the time but i had that gut feeling about this one Going to take a little storytime russia. When i was a junior senior high school Berkeley high women's basketball team They had plated team by the name of modern day. I don't know if you know modern day where you're from modern day played bader day in the state title game Berkeley was number five in the country. At the time out today was number. One had girl going to yukon. They were legit now. We came out and we were up like eighteen to start the game at arco arena and But it did. It seem sustainable. And it was one of those leads where it seemed like. It was all rental in in wants thing settled the other team. The better team was going to win. And i sail and modern ended up winning And i sell it to say. I saw the same type of thing in this game. Five where the sons were going all adrenalin. And it did not seem sustainable. It seemed like they were feeding off the crowd but once once everybody started to lock in relax it was good and you saw that in the second quarter because in the second quarter two bucks immediately. Got bobby portis three. You got a you got a great play from zoo holiday and immediately you look and it's they're they're actually up one and i'm like what the hell the bucks are one yup did the buck and at at that point from the from the second quarter on the bucks were in complete control of the game and i didn't think that they were gonna let up even we'll get to this down the down the strikes even we got down. The stretch never seemed like the bucks. Were going to lose this game. It seemed like they were in control and they were the better team and they had everything that i said that the sons had to start on this series the poise and and the moxie down the. That's what the bucks had throughout the game. Did you see that. So that's like you come out. You know in in a boxing match and and you hit. I like knock dale bone. You think it's a wrap. He gets up off the canvas and he's unfazed and now and now you're in a slugfest right and i. The sun's looked like a deer in headlights like they thought that rally or that early adrenaline should've put the bucks to sleep. And i don't think they recovered until late in the fourth quarter from that 'cause late in the fourth quarter when desperation set in thought they actually played with some of that energy desperation sets in. It's one of those things where you it's like when it's desperation for a basketball team as a writer on deadline when the deadline is creeping up because you stop forgetting all that shit that you were all like all that timid miss that you have you say fuck it. I gotta do the best. I can what what i got. And i'm not tired of just being typically. Is that what you saw from. This team crate analogy great analogy. Yes you have at your best work right. Nothing to with your password happens. Yeah nothing to lose like we gotta get this done and so you know. I think they got you but we talked about this right. We talked about the tightness in a series right. That complexion of the series. I use that word all the time. But when you're at home as the suns team and to some degree this is what we talked about when we did that kind of pretenders like like segment when you're in a big game like that can you loose enough and i saw the sun's tighten up because you gotta get that that's a pressure pack game. If you're the sons for obvious reasons you lose that shit in a one you know. Best of three series and now milwaukee's got home court and so they got tight and they didn't loosen up until the fourth quarter. I would say a week ago. I don't think anybody really heard me. I might. i was on with greeny. And he asked me about devon booker when he was struggling and what he needed to do offensively. And i. I said his offense will come back like he's too good of a player. He has to Kind of dive into some other areas of the game and help his team in other ways and once he does that. The offense is going to be fine. But i also cautioned against devon booker becoming the forty to fifty a night player. I don't think the suns are at their best when he scores. Forty to fifty points Unless i think. I think unless it has to be a row rounded forty points. It can't just be forty points five rebounded to assist. They can't be nothing like that. It has to be like the clippers type game where he has at forty point. Triple double well yes. Clearly there are. There are different types of forty or fifty point games right and so that's a better way to put it. But when the ones where he's getting like thirty three thirty four shots and it winds up being forty and and you could tell. His focus is on scoring. And that's what he's there to do. I don't feel like they're at their best. I feel like he can have thirty. They're at their best when that balls flying around it's moving and everyone is able to contribute to that offensive productivity and he's thirty i mean i think that's honestly every superstar rouser like guess every superstar score forty but that takes one takes a lot of energy into. It's always not really sustainable when you do that. You're honestly usually when when by large players are going for forty or fifty points is because they're overcompensating for the lack of options on their team or a lot of people aren't aren't feeling it so over compass. I didn't feel that that was no. I didn't i felt you've been getting great production out of at least at home Miquel bridges cam. Johnson was giving you really good cam johnson by the way Jae crowder has been has been balling cheaply three. We'll talk about him. He's you know deandra their options there. When the ball is moving and players are moving. You know devon booker it. It's just it's what you like a devon booker's phenomenal with the ball in his hands. I would never pretend that he was anything short of that. But when when you get it in your in an ice oh situation a lot. It's not to the ball and it stops. It stops opportunities at time for other players. When balls really moving book made some incredible shots down the stretch and crame. But i just see what the suns team it just seems like. After those first two games mandate have struggled to get a rhythm and when you think about We gotta talk about jrue holiday at a point in time. His defense But i do want to talk about down the stretch of Of this game in game And game five so. Let me paint the pitcher in his game. So the the bucks go up. They finally take control of the game in the second quarter. Go into the third quarter. They're up like doubleday syrup. Eleven thirteen points going into the fourth and it seems like this is going to be easy win. And the sons battled back. They hit chris. Paul was really good. Like was it good during the game but hit two clutch threes and then tough. Tough fall away over yon- on baseline going was and then he gets a devon booker. Like i hate doing this like this comparison but it absolutely was a. Kobe shot where he gets the ball on that on that wing area beyond the arc and just shoots a desperation three inches butter. Like you know. It's going to go in when he when he shoots it you newly. They ran off at staggered. Come into his right. Yes and any hits that three and i think i think he that puts the game within three and he was like one twenty one seventeen and then she gets real then I think they hit another three to know. That's what chris. Paul heads to the floater to get it to within one. So let's fight this thing. This is what i think. Oh shit the sons might steal this game. The sun's absolutely might steal this game because they have to closers they. Have i trust chris. Paul and devon booker down the stretch. I just do is one of those things but then they get it. The sun's get a stop. And i think dan book is about his hands. Okay they're going to go up. One devon booker is one of those players to wear like he has a bone is hands down the stretch. It's like him. Chris paul k. d. staff lebron these guys that you know they know what to do down the stretch your like if you're on the other team you're like oh shit he's going to put them up one if they are on your team. You're like okay. We have this in the bag now. Devon booker tries to go in and he he tries to go to go to the cup and drew holiday makes the steel of the game and throws. And you knew it was coming. He gets the thing he's out in transition he has he has. He has the on a fast break in between him in. Jaanus between giralda andy. Honest chris paul he's helpless. He's in a position. You knew the law is coming. And then chris paul pushes yannis and you immediately sent to texts. You could say what you said as a texter you cannot say what you said you were not happy with that play and there's a dunk and one and obviously an unnecessary foul just unnecessary and my am. Is you go up three. It's still a one possession game. You do not have value honest. Let him get that. Let him get that. Let him get. Get the duck right. Yeah we have more to talk about the water you have to say about this sacred because it was really nasty. It wasn't much time secrets. How much time was on the clock. Do you remember. When i haven't i think it was like. I think it was a two for one. I think it was like thirty seconds left to all right because my initial. I didn't know the time but my initial was like it was really risky. Pass by jrue holiday like us on their you fucking path. He threw it and that's why he is who he is. And that's why is he is my. I was watching it with my son. I was like oh any converted so my my point way though i feel as soon as you shoot the man he's gonna dunk this jaanus. I actually said as soon as i saw that shit though that shit though that shit that shit i thought he was going to circle it out because but i didn't know time so i thought it was under twenty four and they were going to have to fao so but a tough one. Because as chris. Paul i would probably foul to logan like you're caught in the middle of that like you don't know what i said about that foul was. He's thirteen seconds left. Thirteen seconds left. Yeah that's what i'm saying. That was a risk risky dog. Rousse risky but yeah if jrue holiday does that assists chris. I'm chris. I'm letting him get it. I'm letting him get dunk. Why not well. You don't know that he's going to get it and it's and it's and it's the honest so like you're like if if he doesn't make it because you foul him you got jaanus at the line and you're going to have to foul anyway under thirteen seconds. So what i'm saying is. I'm not even the foul was probably going to have to take place. It was a hell of risky play for jrue holiday trust. I mean i did this. Jesse jackson ball shit. Yeah yes some balls and it worked so kudos but it. Was that thou the way. Chris paul chris. Paul had two fouls. I told you. I chris paul here two fouls you see the foul that he took on when you got it in the pain. It was a good hard foul on giannis. Had gotten it like two possessions. Prior and chris. Paul grabbed his forearm. Right he tried to dislocate that. Man's shoulder bro. If you watch that play he. He pulled down on his forearm as hard as he could. It's fine like i'm not beefing with the that particular play on the rim. If y- honest i've been the victim of that When you're awful one foot and all of your momentum going one way if you don't get enough of your hands on that rim to hold onto it as you're getting shoved the way chris. Paul shoved him. It could have been a catastrophic fall from the rim bro. Like he could a really and i was surprised at the time that they didn't go look at that because he made no play on anything other than jaanus waste. He just ran over there and tried to late with everything he actually fucking athletic savant like where he just. Did you see the pictures from net. Arousa there's pictures of him just like it's like the rim is over his head and he's underneath it and he's like this after he gets pushed. It's it's amazing any so high off the ground dog. It was incredible. I mean again. In the heat of the moment. I'm not casting any judgment on the play. I'm simply saying that that play could have wound up being really really different right. That's one of those real dangerous guy in the air running full speed if you turn and just shove him. He could wind up in a lot of places. I just feel like there's no. I feel like either way. It's a one possession game i'm not i'm not fouling either way to be a one possession game right if you let honest that dunk. It's a one possession game. If you did foul him you're potentially could be a flagrant. He could like or he could dunk. It and with thirteen seconds was a four point game instead of a three point. Game right you making it harder on yourself. That's why i'm like. I wouldn't afoul. No i know. I'm simply saying when you've when you've watched devon booker get stripped in your falling back into into trying to play a two on one and you see the lob go over your head your natural reaction is going to be to turn around and try to try to disrupt that. It's that's a. That's one of those things that's happened in in real time. It's hard shit. But i hear where you're coming from and then janas mrs both free throws they can't and then the your sons raja can't secure the aboard and drew came into tapped out. No no no not us who came and tapped that out. He tapped out to middleton. I believe i think yanna shot the free thought jerusalem the free throw yata shut the free throw then it got it got tip. Telecoms and in the final one was jaanus getting. It's a middle janas tattoo back but drew is the one that kept that alive because he came in off of the three points circle and got a tip put it in the air and that was a smart play to brody and when gravity tapped back so i didn't have to shoot again. Yeah and so That's and i think that when we talk about people who can't shoot free throws like you could still be. I think lawson that is you could still be aggressive. Yeah you don't wanna shoot the free throw but pass somebody who think who can make it. That was a great play by john and he he did it no look to he just right out. A middleton. don't even sure it's right here. Another tough one though because middleton was sliding to his left and janas tap that shift to the right and when it happened in real time i was like all we turned it over to me. It was a heavy play you. Let's let this a good time. Talk about this janas. Struggles the free throw line right and yoenis trajectory of as a player to some degree is going to be affected by whether he can get that jumper together. The nba finals are finally here in federal sportsbook has a championship offer. You don't wanna miss because during these finals new users get thirty to one odds on either the bucks or the sons to win their next game. That means you can win one hundred fifty dollars on a five dollar bet. I'm taking the sons. I think chris paul is going to bounce. Back and devon booker is going to have himself another game with van sportsbook. There are more ways to win on fan tools during the nba finals. And when you do win getting your money is a layup. 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Www dot one eight hundred gambler dot net west virginia. Here's my take on his jumper when you see on plus but paint the picture a little bit. Better roger because we. Let's let's bring like not less spring sasha into this besides to start his off so let's let's a picture of this right and we're talking about janas before the pod in the chat we're talking about janas goat potential and if this guy has all the tools yes to mvp's i honestly if he wins if they went the bucks win this he has to get finals. Mvp there's no. There's no so pisa finals. Mvp a chip at twenty six twenty seven. And i mean. I'm not gonna say he can't be the greatest of all time. I'm not gonna say he can't be in the conversation. He has at least eight more years to play if he can. He can go on a run theoretically he could. I'm one of those guys. Goat is a is a really. I mean that's he could. He could add himself into the top ten all time. I believe he could do that. He could do that and again. I think to some degree. At least it's going to you know whether he rounds out at offensive arsenal or not is gonna is gonna help with that His jump shots not broke for me to say this. It's not broken. Because i see him. He's got really nice touch on it when he's not thinking about it meaning when he's in that post shooting at one legged fall away or sometimes when he's around that elbow area and he's he's knows he's in he's going to be aggressive and he pulls up like those are bad it when he has to think about shooting a three. It looks awful. Right goes into times when he has to think about shooting. Those free throws you can tell it's uncomfortable right And it's not great. But i don't think his jump shot is a broken thing. It just seems to be something that he's to some degree comfortable with when he's on his own head about it and if you can get out of his own head about it i think he can. He can find a a jump shot. I'm getting the feeling right now with the obvious that he's just starting to see he's just starting to take that next step in his career he's just starting to take that next thing is like obviously. He's been talented dude. He's been averaging thirty and ten or close to those numbers for the last few years. But it seems like and you know. I was in milwaukee last week Shelter milwaukee and. I was like looking and i watched his game and it just seems like he's just the cliche it's slowing down for him. It's starting to right where it start starting to get to a spots and you can't fuck and stop him like i'm getting my stocks down the pain at you know what i'm doing. You know i'm doing this motherfucker spin move and you know. I'm getting insulated. Doesn't matter what you do you know. I'm in transition. And i'm doing this euro step where i literally go from the three point line to the paint and there's nothing you can do to stop it but it's becoming to be more refined right now and i could see in the next few years like he could get to thirty five percent from three like i don't you don't need them to get to forty. You don't need them to. But i you start to see that roger with the fadeaways that he's doing he's really comfortable with that fade away now to where it slot. It doesn't it seems like okay. This is his shot now. This is something that he's going to so when you think about that like the eu and sasha we're talking about this pre show like we're obviously comparing him to lebron because that is that is to go to this generation. You know we could just just point blank in my opinion And we're comparing them to and we brought the jump. Shot got brought up. And i'm like yeah. When lebron was twenty six is showers broke as fuck. It was but what did he do he puts. Mj didn't have mj was a score when he came in attacking the basket like that jump. Shot refined tie. his jump. shot wasn't a sweet is like the night. It wasn't the ninety six ninety seven supper where he was at a bag right. Nah his shop. His shot was broke but he could get it. Get it every once in a while. But she wanted jordan shoot threes then like same with lebron so i feel like we see a lot of this week. Oh my it has. I think we live in a generation where it was like. It has to be absolutes. Like you have to be this like we all see. Look we see. Lebron is a finished product. And we see jordan as a finished product and we want the honest to be something like that at twenty six bro. He's so good that he got to win. Bp's just figuring out like give them some time what you just said. There is absolutely right off the players evolve and you continue to grow every year. The great do they continue to add something to their repertoire. I think jaanus aside from jumper. Which i do believe has legs. I do believe his jumper has. He will continue to get better at a lot of those guys. What they also figure out is. It's easier sometimes to not have the ball in your hand so much and do the lion's share of the ball handling and play creating off the bounce because let's face it. They're five sets eyes glued to you there you know. Mike was able to kind of extend brilliant by getting into the mid block figuring out how to be more efficient. Less is more You know as he continues to grow as a player he's got the opportunity and the ability to get downhill. Obviously he's a frequent nature when when those guys those big on guard him. But i think you'll see him. Continue to get better on that low block with his back to the basket just just fade away. You're shooting off the dribble off one balance you shoot the same fade away with no trips You can't you catch. That also can't wait to see like the countermove of these fatal as he gets like the pump. Fake the jets gonna continue to grow man and he will be You know goat is tough. But he he could definitely he will be one. And if not already to def- defining players of this generation that is just what it is. But i just feel like even the people that we compare him to right. We're comparing him to kevin durant. Who is i think. The best player in the league right now for sure when he's healthy But you compare him to. Kevin durant kevin's in his thirties. Right now. we forget the like kevin had to get stronger back in the day like he had to figure out his game too but we look at all these work apparent in all these absolute cities players that are honestly of a different generation. Him right now even when you compare him to lebron the bras about to be out of the league in a few years. Katie has a few more years two but these guys are like then. I don't feel like honest is being compared to his contemporaries. He's compared to a generation above him so once they get out of the paint. He's going to be the best player in the league if he stays at this trajectory. No sorry hijacked run. Like i gotta turn on your comparing jaanus to lebron. Mj k. d. I gotta sit on. I sit up in the crib and listen to people. Say janas ain't even the best player on his team. Hey some of our friends that our show who we love by the way i do i do love. I do love. And there's very few times where i disagree like per se but hear me now you can miss me all that shit straight up. I'm making about this. I am here for. None of the jaanus is not the best player on that team. Jaanus is robin. Miss me with that. If anybody the invitation is opening you could come on the real ones that we could do to shape face to face. Always love right. We talk sports bra per. I not the only one. There are other people that they make that argument. And i'm here for none of that. I don't i don't you can't even support that now. You could say you know. Chris middleton closes some games. You know you could say that. And chris middleton is taking anything away from chris. Middleton i am a fan as well but you can't be telling me that he is not the the man on that team. I can't do that. I just when you go into that. And i think we're starting to see this during the postseason in finals. Man like if didn't know already you know now don't matter what any other player does on the bucks. The buck's are honest his team. It's it's janas team. It's his identity. It's what he you could see it. During the press conferences you could see during the game itself. This is your team ever. you know. Jonah's his team. Because every maker miss from the from the role players and everyone around him as a referendum every misir may make as a referendum janas game. Because what what's up. Janice team had no fucking game. Yes that's how you know it's not here for any of that. Shit you ain't got to the it's honesty. Watch a game people people. This ain't for you. It is for the people i was saying because he did. I did my best for me. But i'm just like i'm just like man. Everything revolves around yada spro. Like it's the real chris. It is on that team. We love her as middleton. We love christmas reason why he stays on. That team is because janas wants him on a team. You know why jrue holiday who's making great plays and has been one of the players of this series is on the team because kubo right like this identity and also he's gotta gotta scott and criticized. The book's got criticized for this. The reason why the team identity is because it is because yanna said. I love these players and i wanna play with them and got chris criticism when they were signed. Do we think jrue holiday was going to be as much of a difference maker. I can't say did you did did rossouw rouses of basketball aficionado. He does somebody who watches the ship for listening. That said like you actually played into trenches. You knew but by and large there was a narrative out there that like do holiday is not going to bring them over to stop. He's not chris paul. You should've got winning guy guy chris. Paul chris middleton. We know how maligned he is. We know what i've said about. Khris middleton right also raza. I don't know if you were looking. Is chris middleton a question during the colder nba finals right. See would you say so active question. I was like you know you've been mutt. I this is the question i asked said. You're probably gonna look funny. I said know you've been you know must malign throughout the postseason and out the season just for the simple fact that like you know playing alongside janas and you get the criticism but you have been playing well but to do what you did was after game four to do what she did on this sage or and in this moment does that take a weight off. Your shoulders is what i asked him right and he said he didn't like i don't i don't think he listens to ruins. I don't know. But he said i don't know real you. Don't listen to it was like. I don't care what y'all think. I don't care what anybody thinks. And it was the first time where i actually heard from a player and i believed him when he said they don't give a fuck about what he says. But that was funny with middleton. And i actually i love you. I love you christmas and i. I love you but all of this. All everything is around the honest. If you're honest didn't want anybody on the team. They wouldn't be on the team. He loves khris middleton. He loves jrue holiday and if he can win in this way. I don't think this is look at it now. If he can win with this type of team with two with middleton who. I think history will see him as a better than what i thought he was going to be but if you see him see him when with this team a team that a lot of people that he was going to win. Because there's only one generational talent on a team. I think history will look a janas a lot more fonder and look at this team a lot more fonder and next year's what you think first of all Chris nelson is is a hell of a player not only one but yeah but he's a two way player. I mean he's out there you know he's he's long Rangy defensively drew holiday inn. Somewhere in the file somebody can look back and find it. like Drew holiday is a don't know what happened earlier in the series like with confidence shooting the ball and offensively. We sent his garden chris. Paul maybe that's maybe that's all it was but he had to continue to be better for them to have a chance and he said he was tired during the during the during the i like. It was just exhausting covering chris. Paul like which is makes sense. Yeah i i can see that. He's been he's been brilliant The last few games. And you know i did think he was the type of player that could help them get over the the the the for championship now. I don't know that he's a number one option on the championship team. But that's not what he needs to do your he. He he needs to be what he was in the last couple of games So i think i think the roster is better than people give credit now. It does not have multiple generational talent but is a really talented ross. Like yeah now now you know. We live in a day and age. Where where you've got kyrie. James harden and kevin durant on a team so i see it like it's all relative right but i do think when you're talking about khris middleton andrew holiday while not generational talent Super talented all star players with jaanus. Who has two time mvp. I think they're better than people give credit. How does how do i have a question. How does this look like. How does this if they like the one at all right. They're a team that is built around one like as a generational talent. How are we gonna look at how we build rousers from now onto where you're not as you're depending on a star but you not depending on like three stars. Do you think that that's going to change how we look at how we wanna build super. Is it like. Does this spell the end of the super team era. I don't think so. But i think is a question worth asking. I i do think it. I think it's a great question. And i think people are going to have to start like it's copycat league People are gonna have to start looking looking into what their finances are. What type of flexibility you lose when you put three stars of that magnitude on a team of one hundred pressure it puts on your organization absolutely. You're in wait now mode like from one night to the next like it's just the whole without having to develop when in a normal way like throughout the years absolutely and so i i take it a step further. You have two teams doing that right now. You're finals teams right and like you say chris. Paul is a generational talent but he is at the end of that rope. some degree. Right and devon booker is not there yet like. He's he's ascending into that right like he is. He is on the rise. I love to see. Wouldn't would devon booker does next year. No and i don't mean. I hope no one takes that for for being right. Yeah he's still young. It's infrastructure ahead of schedule man so to your initial question you have two teams right now doing it without supersedes and i do think in a league where you know people look around and take note with someone else is doing to try to copycat that you are going to have people reevaluating whether it makes sense to have three three on. It's like you know what i mean. I i wonder how that is also like man. This is the nba that a lot of like criticizes in skeptics of the super teams. This is the finals that they wanted. Let's just be honest. This is the final and thank. Gosh thank god. It's great finals. This has been legitimately at great finals for for to watch in general but i think this is a dove for the people that say like oh man we were tired of watching the warriors in this in like this this influx of talent on one team. We wanted to see a more solid team with you know with role players and things like that and We wanted to see something. That's seems a bit more attainable. And i wonder i wonder how that's going to reverberate around the league in the next two years man because next year. You're going to have those super teams. Come back you're going to have the lakers come back. You're going to have brooklyn comeback with a bit more rest. You're gonna have a super team anymore. But the warriors are going to be in the mix Just going to have all these things. You're going to have all these types of things and i'm curious how the landscape is gonna gonna go because it's funny because you see even with the super teams the mortality of the super teams because of one guy goes down and i think that's one of the things one guy goes down that spells doom for the rest of the team right whereas if you see the bucks or The bucks giannis had a knee injury. They were able to weather the storm for a game. A couple of games without him. Yep and i don't like. I'm curious to see how that works out. Man i really am. Yeah it's gonna be really interesting. And i think if you're super teams bounced back next year. And and you're talking about brooklyn and the lakers in the finals. It's different conversation than we just had a second ago right because you should have won it by so the point you made a really good point about mortality and and you know one guy goes down. It's not just because it's a brilliant player that's going down and he means so much to which do what's because to keep that brilliance. You have to go out and spend less on depth right and so you don't have someone behind that. That's that's all you know at least partly capable of doing what he is. Probably you have minimum guy behind him you know and you know some of these teams are built with good debt. Like you're losing a ton going from the number one option to the number two option right like you're losing but not a time but even when like even when you think about like the warriors stuff right. They didn't have much debt. But they had andre dollar right. Yeah they had like they. They didn't have depth like that. And i'm curious to see how that's gonna who's going to be that other person for the brooklyn nets are you. I think the lakers have been more depth than that. But like you know with the brooklyn. Nets is a great case study. Because i'm i'm wondering how they are going to be when who's gonna merge the other guy they need one more other guy. Besides that the victory they need one more guy. We'll see what happens man Stick a quick break. And i want to preview this game six. Remember the feeling you got as a kid getting tuck into bed or the feeling you get now in the arms of somebody you love safe and secure. It's a feeling of security. That only comes through a human connection and that's why the people that simply safe home security are so important of course. Simply safe has an award-winning system. That has all the technology bells and whistles. You'd expect to see these days but the people are simply safe. Really take it to the next level. They're there around the clock. You need them. Whether it's a fire of burglary a medical emergency a burst. Pipe or even problem while you're setting up the system. Simplisafe has a person with the expertise. You need ready to help. Twenty four seven. 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What happens What are the ripple. I want the ripple effects of this I want to start with the sense. What are you what are the ripple effects for the sons real quick If they lose this right like they're a team that it's it's there. There are a team where they're headed schedule but they have a lot of question marks prep honestly their front court. Debt needs to improve like they can't just go another season with just aidan and then just dudes at behind him needed a legitimate beloved to see like dwight howard on that team. But what do you think happens if they lose like. Do you think that they're still in the mix next season to credit contenders next thing. Yes title contenders Not not not favorites. In my opinion to come out of the west. I wouldn't put them in that mix next year They have there are some interesting like watch. Chris got a player option next year. Is it a player option I think yeah. Yeah yeah i mean. They've got they've got decision. Chris paul bean. Probably you know what you're gonna do there as it continues to age want security for sure like i imagined him like not not picking up that option one in a contract right what do you. What do you do there And then addressing that front court. That is probably going to be the most paramount. Well chris christie is the first four votes right where you're gonna go there. Robert server like. I gave him love earlier in the playoffs. By hasn't always been willing to go out there and and opened up you know. So how's he going to operate around that. And if they get chris paul back they are. Contender gotta gotta deal with that depth in the court though. This is how you maintain like to your point about over and this is something that he hasn't necessarily done and passers rouser. You know this you played when the last time the sons were this good This is how you maintain contenders man. You gotta spend money and you gotta spend money smartly and a smart way So i just. I don't know i think they have a. I think they might have another crack at it. If they can get front court. I would like. I would love to see a backup center like dwight on on this team. You know who he basically be good. They're going to address that backup point guard too because camera pains looking to get paid one hundred percent. Do you would you. Would you take campaign if you're the sons right now like obviously campaign doing the damn thing. He's been killing him to resign him. Yeah i mean yeah somebody williams guy and those guys to me. Where like monty He's good because money was got him to a place where he's good and money is gonna wanna keep that because he's gotten the best out of them and if you're gonna if you're gonna sign you almost have to sign to people when you signed chris paul right because he can't play the amount of minutes and carry the amount of load he's carried if you're going to extend him into the twilight of his career you're gonna have to load manage and then you have to have a really good backup to him that you trust so as you sign him you're essentially signing two players him and a good backup. Pg yeah. i agree with you. Because i wouldn't be surprised if next year. Paul average like twelve and seven. And that'll be okay. That's fine biz. Long as he's get an postseason For the bucks man like if they win this title. What does that do. i don't. it's can they repeat if they win this title. I don't know i it. But it'll be great for that reason though. Like milwaukee has just been forgotten for so many years it would just be great to see it firsthand. How milwaukee Feels about that postseason. It's always fun to see a city that has like one it in the finals. You saw that. In cleveland to where they're just like they're chomping at the bit we just we just want to be on the stage How is it if they win this title. you know. because you've been around cleveland and you've been around these these these small market cities where that is that's shine and this is we're only going to get one fifteen year run and we don't know when we're gonna get this again. What does that like when they're at the stage. I mean it's a great time to be in said city. Let's start there. I mean when it is when when those towns are having success and those teams are winning. I mean it is. It just means so much to the region in the market You know and to some degree to two things that kinda dictate how long your windows open there or how how how effective you are coming back. The second year would be the franchises willingness to keep that run going. That means spending money right. I mean they're locked in they. Got the middleton lockton before bobby portis is going to be up like he'll opt out at three point eight i would imagine right and also row love bobby portis before this is so but continuing like not being satisfied with what that looks like what i mean logan by not being. It's gonna be hard to run it back with exactly the same pieces. So is there something out there where you know it makes sense. You know to do what you gotta do to continue to continue moving forward. And then how hungry is yanni's and and chris middleton is. We got a chip. We did it or good or are you able to come back to camp as you're relatively young and double down on like we wanna keep this moving. And that's not an easy thing like you know you talk to anybody who's won multiple championships. I have not talked to rip hamilton. And lebron james joe's all those dudes. It's exhausting. so you can you. Can you stay focused and stay hungry. And that ultimately deterred by the way. I saw gps in milwaukee introduce myself to gps. Did you call him jukes. What you say when you do. He said what's up. And i was like what the fuck and i was like doing. Podcast roger bell great doodo me like the show a hey phoenix phoenix suns. If your pr staff listening we need you on the pod. If you guys went orange juice on the pot in general to julie phya shutout right. Joy buys i think she's still in phoenix. I think she is the best of the best. And i've been around some really good People and been blessed after really good. Pr julius is the best word. so we need We need jobs on the show for the show. Even if it's next year we he's coming on the show But yet it wouldn't it be kind of a wild if the out of all these super teams the bucks were like the dynasty out of this. I don't think he's gonna have like if they were. They win this title here. And then like they just catch all these teams on the back just because of the back into their primes. Lebron and katie. You're just on the back and they just don't win another one. If milwaukee just sneaks in a couple titles right here crazy could be fun. That'd be fun. I've just gone just going to say this so then brooklyn nets next year. He but watch out. I'm an will this get it. Now get it. Now get it out. Whichever one you get it now. Yeah for sure because the wires are coming the brooklyn nets are coming these. They're ready to go. So that's kind of fascinating for sasha. I know these aren't too. These are two teams that like these are two teams. 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Episode 21 - Burgers, Blockbuster and Big Shot Bob

The Spivey Special Podcast

54:47 min | 1 year ago

Episode 21 - Burgers, Blockbuster and Big Shot Bob

"This week on the SPIVEY special podcast. We'll be talking about burgers blockbuster and bake shop up. Welcome to episode. Twenty one of the spivey special podcast. That's one more than twenty. We're doing pretty good. That's a bike. Check yeah maybe not in California that card game. I still don't understand how that version works. I have no idea California black. That'll make no sense. We'll try it's the return of hike season Time of the year. It's the worst. Can we get some rain on Saturday and Sunday? So we can stay inside instead of going to walk. I just WANNA watch the XFL. But I don't get the chance I'd even watch cooking shows. I've watched cookie monster. Yeah he's really good very talented. Young isn't up and comer big news in the podcast game. We got her new mixer Jackpot. We that means we're going to have the capability to have a third person. In the Studio Aka my bedroom. Who who've spooky have a lot of fun. We're going to have our first in studio live guests next week. Yeah I think we kind of pimped it on the last show. But it's going to be our data Michael Spivey or families a little worried but luckily we can edit anything he says so he's GonNa get himself in too much. Trouble should be a lot of fun. And we're both looking forward to it so we've got a fun one on deck today another triple B episode or second triple b one find a new letter one bees not enough either to let's put. I think there's four today. Yeah maybe when WE WATCH COOKIE MONSTER. We should go back and learn to more letters. Other than being sesame street is a tough street to live on. Gabes people living in trash cans. And it's ridiculous. I don't trust the humans. Yeah they've got like imaginary giants Gets monsters that some people can see enough. People can't see it doesn't make any sense bird cage and I'm pretty sure that count is second people's blood. Do you gotTa do what you gotTa do on the Sesame Street. It's also a seed way to open stuff exactly okay. Let's get into our first one. We are going to start out with food court files all right. Is it time for the food court files this week? Four food court files were GONNA be doing. Another healthy ones is like ten in a row for us. We're GONNA be talking about Burgers. I think it's twenty one in a row we didn't do Veggie in there somewhere accidentally. Maybe that doesn't sound like something. The way would do all right. So we're GONNA kind of breakdown burgers. We're going to start with my favorite part of the Book Burger. Which had they're always gets mad when I say compliment. This part of the Burger and that's the Bun. I think it's a make or break. You got some Nice buns. We're going to take you all right. So let's go to some of these buns. We get sesame seed. Bun Your classic big Mac. That's a that's a really good one. I don't know what sesame seeds taste like. Now they're very bland lot like lettuce to get some sort of weird texture to it though can visit a crunch in a way which is nice. I like the potato buns as well. I'm going to be buying them from the store. And making my own really. Just reasonably priced flavorful. Soft KICKS IT UP A NOTCH. Like they're good when you put him on the grill to a little bit of butter or make them healthier with the butter Brioche. And that's when you get real fancy that's way too fancy for me. I thought you sneezed. That's like eating butter also bread. It's good to get against getting on that now. You had just sourdough bread as part of a burger like Chris Cooper called Sandwich. None none if you if you did like a Frisco Burger. I don't know just because you name it. A Burger called you burger okay. But I don't have. Why do have nice buns but in your cheesy true probably covered in. Ketchum Fighting Okay. All right About Spongebob done like in and out Burger. Good good yeah. Don't try to do too much. You don't have to if you got a good inside of your Burger. You gotTa have a really solid toppings. No thing to pull off a sponge. Yeah Pretzel Bun. They're very dangerous pretzel. Buns watch out for the review. Your mouth get you out at Chili's My dad got a Pretzel Bun Cut. His lip was bleeding the whole time. So Larry he just kept going it. That Pencil Burger though. You've got Shibata buns very good fun. I enjoy those as well. I think more of Sandwich for me though for bread. You're you're at a Tokyo Sandwich bread during that. Short little window where you could. That's my favorite memory of sex date. they were the last ones to have it. That shouldn't be my favorite experience from college. But I had really good pizza while I was at college. It's all I remember. Did ever college and breadsticks. Is You look like a breadstick. Thank you and then Hawaiian Rolls. We're getting into sliders. That might be my favorite. Why in reserve just good by themselves? They don't even need butter there so delicious. They just melt in your mouth and not in your hand. That's really hot right firm meets. You gotta be all meet. Marvel now the key to a good burger that you're going to have the right fat content. It can't be to lane. Yeah then it's gross. It can't be to fattier barbecue catch on fire. That happened to Maine. Yeah let's because you've got a little too close in your fat. As what set ablaze that did happen. That's why I wear a flame retardant suit when I barbecue emphasis on flame eating. Go the retard trying to throw you in alleyoop and you just you forgot to Joe fat guys. Can't Joan all right so for me? Now we're GONNA start with beef now war. We're doing a burger a US single Burger Double Burger. It really just depends on the Burger and what we're doing with the meat for stuff in the meat yellow need one patty but if you just it depends too much. How much produce and cheese. You're put it on yeah. I think it's a quarter pounder bigger. You can do one. I think it's like a smaller one like if they're trying to use like a junior bacon cheeseburger this throw as many patties on there is even get loaded up. I need at least a quarter pound. If we're going to be doing this right. Yeah I think he. You can't Overdo it with the meat though. Especially if good sides chicken count as Burger for you or is that chicken sandwich so he skipped chicken Bison Burgers more of a Bison Burger Kinda guy I like Bison burgers now what about. Add Bacon at the meat. Will you have to do that? If that's an option there's no even bad. Bacon is pretty good. Even like Carl's junior. Bacon Kevin Kevin Bacon. He put him on a very one. Okay are you a Veggie Burger no fair enough? You have to work really hard to find a Veggie Burger that I would enjoy. I mean I would order instead of. Yeah I mean. They're they've got pretty good taste where I've tried some Sarah's and you can't really tell too much of the taste but if you tell me it is I'm going to hate Have you had an impossible? Were you know or whatever the other ones are no? I won't do either. Bunch of hippy. Nonsense you do you think veto no. I'm vetoing net. Oh it was a verb. Yeah okay not a person veto could also be ver- I don't know wolf to think about that. Check my dictionary webster. Webster cheeses now already talked about stuffing patties full of cheese. Good move and there's only a handful of cheeses that are really that good on a burger. Yeah I've had a lot of cheeses burgers but you gotta go with the classics. Cheddar and American are both good cheeses. That's probably going to be a normal barbecue or something like that. You'RE GONNA get Cheddar or American nothing. American just melts a very pleasing way makes it kind of gooey and fantastic just looks good. It's the worst. She's by itself. It's something about it on a burger. It just makes it right now. I'm a big pepper. Jack Guy got a little kick to it. I liked that. You gotTa have the right toppings and stuff to go along with it. If you're going to do though I love Pepper Jack Bite so so yes. This is trying to do too much. If he just had like a Burger Jack Cheese I like it. Okay well I mean like to depends on what your season in your meat to. If got bland me you need to kick it up a notch lable PJ on your condiments and stuff for are you a Swiss cheese guy never been. Yeah it's GonNa be a really weird scenario where I'm getting Swiss. I would throw like a mushroom burger. I would throw string cheese on there the RELA. I put string cheese on everything. Why wouldn't you but especially not to? It just takes a long time to string it all the way across the Burger. I just go for it. And can't that's just that's argument for another day. He can't just go at a string cheese. I like to bite just a little off of it and then string it. That would make it easier to string. Yeah all right so you traditional chap toppings. They've got tomato huge tomato guy. Love IT LITTLE. Salt gives a little juice. I like the thicker cut of tomato. Don't go for and yeah. I WanNa really taste at lettuce. Are you an iceberg? Romaine SPINACH ICEBERG SHREDDED ICEBERG. Or Line. Knowing I need like a leaf only want one piece with my tomato. I CANNOT SHREDDED LETTUCE. Shredded Lettuce on a burger. I don't like it hate it while big MACs with on a big true. There's other ones that go along with it. But I like those ones onions. Yes grilled and unveiled anything with an onion. I used to the whole girl that only ended in and out of the game changer. And you should not be an onion guy but the onion gives you a little little some something like it Pickles pass hard. Pass hate pickles the pickles any kind of pickles spicy pickles regular pickles. Pickles dill pickles. Big Pickles Tommy pickles. Whatever throw it on there? I don't different flavor. Avocado put into the traditional toppings. Just because we have it so Austin might be more of a California thing though avocados delicious. Just good I mean. What can you do about a good avocado? It's just a nice little topping. Gives you a little bit more moisture in just when you bite into? It is nice seeing now if I'm going to be doing avocado I'll be doing the pepper. Jack that's one of those things that Kinda compliment again. You can't just go. Random Burger no cheese and avocado and abundant like catch up. That's weird. I wouldn't don't catch him now. What kind of weird toppings have you had a burger? I've got a list of a few that I've had. I've had a lot of Burgers in my day. You can't tell possible burgers now not impossible noun of burgers kind of like you your list. I've had pineapple sliced grilled pineapples fantastic. Yeah really really good Fried Cheese Mac and cheese in general. Yeah most take gravy gravy on a burger. If you gotta ask can't afford it. Where is that? I think I just made it. It's one of those. Leftover things got gravy and Burgers. All right have you had pulled on a bird before as like a second meat. I don't can't recall. I have if I did. It wasn't memorable enough for me to remember. Oh I had a really good burger that poll pork and add sweet baby. Ray's barbecue sauce mixed into very good. Very good are you. Have you had fried egg on a Burger before like a Royal Rob Murder? That's your gym. Though I would not I just not my favorite red robin fantastic. Didn't think I would ever like that and now I can't get it when it's an option that just adds another layer of goodness now. Another one is onion rings bacon. Absolutely you gotTa have onion rings on your Burger. I don't know if that ones that weird but on the list Jalapenos like Jalapenos on the Spice Guy. Ginger may be. I think the like Fried. Helping your rings. Sports Burger posh going. Have you had a doughnut for a Bun? Before I have a state fair no view absolutely you loved the State Fair. I love everything about the state for. I can't wait. I can't wait for July when we get to do the state for upset. That's GONNA be my favorite. I think they think of you. When they're making the menu out there the State Fair. What would Zach eat all right? Let's do it Kfc is introducing a chicken sandwich with a doughnut for the Bun. And I am very excited that I don't think KFC but I'll go for that you like KFC. Actually don't you kind of look like the colonel? Thank you. I think you look like the corner. More know anybody Mr Greybeard. It's true art condiments on your Burger. You gotta go catch up I pass with mustard but I hate mustard Mayo. I gotTa do to. It's gotta be to condiment mix for me whether it be ketchup mustard ketchup. Mayonnaise or mayonnaise mustard is like one of my favorites. And now you don't like mustard gives you a headache because your thousand island is basically ketchup and Mayo. It's pretty close. The basically your secret sauce at most places is either thousand island or it's ketchup and mayonnaise mixed together. I do like a good barbecue sauce. You can actually buy the ketchup mayonnaise mixed together in a bottle of Heinz makes it. Smart TO AMERICA WERE LAZY. Yeah. It's too much work and I think that's a better idea than like peanut butter and Jelly in the same jar. Peanut Butter Jelly time and a baseball bat. All right trade. You have a favorite burger just top of my head. I'd probably say at the factory of cheesecake. They have a really good burger and on top of it to fried Mac and cheese ball and it's just delicious now. How do you feel like if you have a really big burger? Are you ever going to cut it with a knife and eat it with a fork or go forward and just wear a bib? I would never cut burger in half. I don't I don't care I'd cut it in half I would never fun. I'd never cut it like in pieces. Anita with a fork. No that's that's what serial killers do. I ever hang out with somebody. And they're eating with the fork. I know that's that's crying out for help now. What's your favorite Burger? What's your jam to have a couple? I've got one written down on that. I just thought of another one later today. It's at squeezing. I'm if you haven't seen it. There is an episode. They went there on diners drive ins and dives sounds a double squeeze with cheese. Now when you go to squeeze in your cheeses and just like a slice of cheese. They throw the cheese on the grill with ice And turn the cheese into. It's called a cheese skirt which is like the size of a piece of binder paper and they just slap it over the top of your Burger. I like that more cheese the better though any fried an easy in fantastic and then I'll add avocado and Bacon wouldn't you? It's just fantastic. Sounds like you're going to take out a loan to pay for that totally worth. It only comes back again. I I wish the original squeeze was still open because that was one of my favorite experiences a little pink shack out there. The Love Shack. It's a little place where we can get together. If you see a faded sign on the side of the road fifteen miles to squeeze now the other Burger that I thought today called the Mad Cow Burger and it's got three third powder patties on making one pound of beef also has like four pieces of cheese or something insane. Yeah I've had that a couple of times that I'm not allowed to eat like that anymore. Weiner works. Oh the one over there on Madison Auburn. We went there once with you. They will give you an entire trayful of fries to. Why wouldn't you can't fit in the door? I weigh fat enough. You can't fit out the door on the way you just stay all right bring me Unilever man. Calmer you have any other favorites. What's your favorite Fast Food Burger? Let's say not counting in and out because we've already didn't entire episode on our love for in and out. I would probably say Jack Inbox Jack in the box all American Burger. I don't know that they even have that on the menu but it was it was simple. It was just. It was your regular Burger with lettuce tomato but it had ketchup mayonnaise and mustard which. I didn't know that was a combo that I wanted but it was. It was fantastic now for me. Wendy's they have a pretty good double cheese there. Oh yeah absolutely there square patties. Kinda throws you off. I like. That's not the right shape. I like Carl's junior western Bacon Mcdonald's big and tasty back in the day I don't know if they still have big and Tae Soo do not but those are just kinda the ones out the top of my head that I remember. I don't really like Jack in the box too much except for their Tacos have you seen the like Quad Burger Quad Chicken Sandwich. They have now I kind of want to eat that. D- just eat. Maybe you got anything else for Burgers think that's it. I mean I'm sure we'll come back touch on the Burger topic again but that's just I think we`ll. We'll probably talk about a few like individual restaurants in full news but those are just kind of the things that we're looking for in our burgers burgers are good. I love burgers stuff. The Patty's if you can if you have not done that yet we didn't talk about Blue Cheese Burger you ably cheeseburger. I like blue cheese a lot in the cheese in blue cheese burger. That's the way to do. It must mushroom Swiss also the combination. Add Mushrooms on your Burger. S- could have the right cheese for it. It's kind of weird if you like American cheese with mushrooms system work you don't care you know things and you're just go for all tastes the same way hard. I think that's all we got burgers. We're GONNA take a quick break and we're gonNA come with remember that thing. Do you like the sweet taste amount do. Do you like your vodka to be both inexpensive and flavored like melons. Then we got a beverage for you. From the minds of the host of the wildly popular podcast that shares. Its name we bring you the Spivey special one part mountain dew three to four parts. Burnett's watermelon vodka one hundred percent fund. Drink one at your next party or at three. Am playing halo three please enjoy responsibly. Hey remember that thing. The Moon Landing Jazz trapper keepers manners. South Sunny D. Yes I remember those things all right for. Remember that thing this week. We are talking about blockbuster. Oh blockbuster. That's like a release specific memory. I very kind of a short window on how long it listed try. Give a little history on blockbuster. Well they were founded in nineteen ninety five in Dallas Texas. The founder was all big. Dave Cooke David Cook if you didn't know him very well he's the guy that won American idol. Yeah great singer. Yeah they had a million stores in two thousand and four eighty four thousand three hundred employees and they started to hit their declined. Two thousand ten. They only had twenty five thousand in this past year in two thousand nineteen. They had three employees. That's a lot less than they. Were down to. One Store Bend Oregon the only one that we have left. It's dubbed the last blockbuster. I think that's what they have on their cards. They give out. Yeah that's the only one there was two left than Alaska. Those are the only two that were left sad. This has got to be some more. We terrible Internet if you're GONNA do blockbuster now if you're under fifteen twenty years old and you don't know what blockbuster is that gives us a little rundown with blockbuster actually was well Instead of going into the virtual interwebs to figure out what you wanted to watch imagine scrolling through net flicks but in a giant store that has sp- aisles and aisles and aisles of movies. Any movie that you can really think of. It was impressive. How big these stores were. But you would have your sections. You'd have new release in action and comedy and horror and adult and some locations. Those were roped off. Yeah that was like a secret Bagman You'd have all those categories laid out. You'd have your vhs tapes lined up so you can actually see what you're watching so that doesn't even matter now with Netflix. And stuff like with the front of the movie. Looks like that was what was selling you on this. There's no trailer paying. You'd have to look at the box and see what it was. Yeah what is this show about that? A pitcher Denzel Washington. All right. Let's do it. Let's try it out. He looks he's GonNa kill some on. Why not this kid word? I'm Wayne Shirt. He looks like a fun guy. That's one that's basically how the market worked on that. But so you would have your box copy on top and then behind it you would have the actual physical tape that you would take up to the Counter Toronto. Now the hard part was if you didn't get there early Friday or Saturday for those new releases you might be out of luck you might get up there and all you have those front little covers and nothing behind it. I guess what would have. They'd have a lot of copies of the new release but everyone would be trying to get it so like apollo thirteen or something came again. Diva big movie right now. That's big move right so you'd have like an entire bookshelf full of just that movie but it would just be the front cover cases. You just see like fifty five Tom. Hanks astronaut outfits. And when you've fan nothing behind them and when you first walk into they'd have a little little thing up on the wall let you know the dates of the new movies. That were coming out with their release dates. We're going to be if you really wanted to see the movie. You'd want to get there on that date to make sure that you got it. I just remember walking around the store. Like if you didn't get the movie there was there then it's game then. It's like searching through Netflix. For you just spend hours trying to figure out what you want to get in the neophyte especially with our family. Because Zach and I would have to agree on a movie and that didn't happen very often but then we'd have to agree on a movie with mom and dad too. Yeah that's true because we never. It's not like we got like ten movies while we're there on the off case that we didn't bring it back on time we're not getting a small business loan to return now. Thanks to four days late. I think there was different prices to on how many days you wanted to keep it. Yeah so depending on the time because I think they changed the plans as they went. When you rent your movie you just get it for like a night where you could get it for three nights or China or three days like you be a little bit more to rent it that way to give yourself some more time to get it like but if you didn't get it back on time major with the late fees knows were shots and apparently they're blockbuster was making all of their profit was on late fees so they'd have a certain time we'd have to return them by two and they had the little slots in the library. You stick your book in but you gotTa stick your movie in it. If you didn't get there by the time they would be sitting there just waiting. 'cause like I said a lot of their profit was on the late fees. Now the cool thing about the drop slot is say you're going to look for your movie. Nothing behind all the ones on the shelf. You GotTa go to that return. Bannon start digging through and see if you can find something good you Gotta. Cross your fingers at someone just returned that new release. Somebody got there at ten. Am and they already watched it. And they returned it because he didn't want any late fees take out a second mortgage on their house. Yeah now ZAC. What are some of the memories? You have blockbuster when we were little I have a few now. I was thinking like we rented so many movies from the movie rental places and I just. There's only a couple that I remember so You and mom went to southern California to go visit Wendy data and I were home alone. And Dad's idea was to rent a movie and we watched Quigley Down. Under starring Tom Seller love and that was like one of the first movies that was just like me and him and I I remember. That's like specifically remember that and watching the movie and him being super excited about every scene that was coming up because he had seen it before. Sounds like you guys will see the next week when we have them on the thing about blockbuster though is they also had video games. Which we towards the end blockbusters rain. Those were the things we really went for. Instead of the movies we had been renting video games in the video stores for a long time though now with the video games you got them for a couple of extra days. You'd get him for like three days but three days unless you're like all in on a three day weekend or the chicken pox or something where you know. You're going to be home for a while. Three days is not enough time to play any video game. No I mean especially if the game has story plot or something you're GonNa get to maybe like level ten of you know twenty five and you're like oh good. I saved this game but we've got to return the game and we finally found out who the bad guy is time to bring it back to store. Yeah that's Kinda got you 'cause a lot of the times we'd like really like the game and then we would just reread it. They'd get us again for the five bucks or wherever it was the rent. The video game got to the point on some of those video games. We should have just bought it. Boy Did end up buying. After we started running a few times. I think why they rented them same with movies. A lot of people bought movies more than now. It's a nobody buys movies now No one has a big old. Dvd collection anymore. That I can think I still have my giants DVD WALLET. Get it out like three times a year. Maybe yeah that's hard I leave. I don't even have the ability at home to watch a DVD. After watch it through the XBOX. I don't have my books. Hooked up right now so now. Another good thing about blockbuster is your head up to the front at checkout. They had the candy in the popcorn right there and it was kind of like the Candy. Popcorn that they had the movie theaters. So you're getting the box of Juju bees or whatever it is. You wanted to get so. It's like having that experience at home. So it's kind of like a one stop shop for everything that you needed. But the prices on obviously jacked up kind of like at the movie theater because they knew that they had you coming from a mile away. What movies do you remember? Renting I can only come up with a couple. I the only other one that I remember. We weren't supposed to watch it but Mom and dad and I must have been Tammy and John came over and they watched terminator two and I snuck out of our room and like crawled on the floor behind the couch with my head. Like peaked out of the side and watched terminator two. That's a good yeah. I was pretty young when Terminator. Two came out where they were watching it. I I want us. I know we eventually bought it but I don't know why keeps coming in my head. The Big Green. Yeah I think we own that movie we did. We did rent it. Yeah that's just the one we always rent. Those dumb nickelodeon type. Movies does not a dumb. That's actually a really good. I think Steve Gutenberg won an Oscar for that movie. I remember a lot of video games. I think IT I. We've rented Tony Hawk. Ready Crash bandicoot eventually. Sonic the HEDGEHOG. We rented snow brothers. Snowbirds jags veto. We couldn't find it anymore and bubble bobble bubble bobble. That's a really good game. Those are ones that you can play. And it didn't really matter if you had to return it in three days. You'd be dealt one real quick now with blockbuster though they were hot for so long and then they just took downward spiral. And it's because why our old friend Net flicks that son of a bee's Stinger and it wasn't it wasn't a streaming online netflix. It was the male in that flex and the reason that we liked it for two reasons. One you have to leave Your House. You just have to walk to the mailbox to no late fees. That's huge. That's huge right there. Because I mean let's say you for your spending twenty twenty five bucks out late fees sometimes if it's super late and he can't find it or something happened to it a unit having by it and they would charge you like twenty five dollars whatever. It actually costs you to buy it great now. I have a twenty five dollar copy of look. Who's talking to a lost twice? Why do we WANNA keep watching the movie? Yes so Netflix. And Red box kind of just took them out of the game. Netflix first and then red box with the blockbuster had a chance to buy a flex. But they didn't believe that it was like a long term thing and they just didn't do it which that's like your classic downfall. Yeah that's kind of a big swing and Mesler and then they tried to get into the streaming thing late to. They actually had a better service than Netflix. But I think like dish network or direct. Tv or somebody owns us all about dish about them and they try to use the brand name but at that point was way too late. Sometimes you swing and sometimes you miss you. Remember having a blockbuster membership guarding. Why don't think we I remember. Mom would take us up to blockbuster sometime let us run in with her card in like ten dollars in cash or whatever it was the rent one movie at what video game yeah but. I don't think I ever had my own blockbuster card. I don't think I didn't either. Maybe a Hollywood video card like late. Hollywood video card definitely not blockbuster though just sad that was a big Friday and Saturday night thing from argues that was the thing to do. Everybody was at the video store getting something. Yeah now they're all just vacant or furniture stores where they're just empty. That Hollywood video on sunrise has been there forever just empty and you can tell what it was like the blockbuster. She'll still have the weird blockbuster ticket sign on there and kind of know what it is just sad things. Change is just crazy that you're that high peak where you have. All these stores eighty four thousand employees. And now you have three. Yeah do you remember having you rewind your video before he returned it? Otherwise you get hit with another fee. Yeah they had you come in and go on. I'll tell you what all you did. Rewind it all the way. It's another three bucks. What I guess time is money. Do you remember the little or rewind machine? John veto had that was shaped like a car kind of remember he put it in there for Iran. That's the most useless piece of women could possibly own right now. That's pretty bad. Yep Yeah I don't. I don't think we have VHS definitely. We don't know blaming the player VCR. That's crazy memories though. Good good memories at the old blockbuster if you guys have any memories go ahead shoot him out on our social media. It's by special everywhere. I just remember walking around the store aimlessly hours. It seemed like it probably was only a few few minutes but seemed like the biggest place in the world when you're a young kid. They'll storage for ginormous. We're doing same thing now at Netflix. Though we're just sitting on the couch spending an hour trying to figure out what that's the worst thing one hour looking for something to watch and then I just watch the office again. We spend our pick a movie and it's awful. We MAKE HALF HOUR. We look at each other like we gotta finish it or anything. That's all we got per blockbuster take a quick break and we'll come back with sports. Jet Sports job with the spivey brothers cubs are good kit the ball to big country generic sucker take all right. That's enough I'm out of breath all right this week for Sports John. We'll be talking about an iconic moment in the history of the NBA especially for US Sacramento. People we'll be talking about the two thousand two Western Conference finals game. Four more specifically the last eleven seconds. Big Shot Bob. It's still very painful. In this part of Northern California to even bring up Robert Aures name. But what can you do? So we're going to kind of give you some context if you're not if you're not from around here this one might not hit for home but let me give you some context analysis so we have the Sacramento Kings. That's our home team. I was actually a Laker fan at this point because I'm a huge check checks huge. He is very huge. So Sacramento moved here in nineteen eighty five. They have been one of the most the one of the best most loyal fan bases. They've been selling out. They were selling out ARCO Arena. Even though the team had been basically hot garbage the entire time that had been here. Cow Town finally like wasn't nineteen ninety. Eight Michael W Smith and Mitch Richmond. Couple those remember Michael Animal Smith the Animal. Yeah Wayman Tisdale. That was I think it was post. Wayman Tisdale that they but that we finally made the playoffs. It was this huge deal and then everything started to click all at once. Petri had like this crazy run. They trade for Weber they dega Jason Williams they draft Pasia the trade for Laudi. And everything's just starts to click trade for Doug Christie he'd be a Hito Bobby Jackson like they have this really good team. They have his offensive system where everything is just clicking like if you think about what the warriors look like was Stephan Klay where they've got that motion events and everyone's passing ended super exciting to watch that is basically the kings offense from the early two thousands of the most exciting team to watch as time. Yes so that year the two thousand one two thousand and two season they were actually the one seed coming into the playoffs. They had sixty one wins. They haven't even had in the last four years. Combine out maybe three yeah They're the hottest team in the league. If finally looks like it's this year now for the Lakers. The team that they're playing in this series. Although the Lakers they've got the second most championships of all time. They're coming off. The two thousand one lakers. Which is the best team that I've ever seen play basketball because they have one loss in the playoffs this season before. Which is the Iverson step over game? But they're like unbeatable at this point there you look at these teams that they're playing is like oh it's the Tim. Duncan David Robinson Spurs. Yeah sweep they're just like they're rolling through everyone now but it's Phil. Jackson team does the next year. The Lakers are the three seed. Now the Lakers roster there's there's people on it Shaq and Kobe. I think that's how you say it. So probably one of the most dominant centers ever and then Kobe. Who's debatably top three all-time yet they're on the same team. With like good good people built specifically to be on the team with checking Koby like it's a super dominant team. Now they're a now. Who's on the bench during the Rock? Yeah the Rock Mitch Richmond so the Kings finally get to the series. They're finally the one seat and then on the other said looking at them. They're like the only good player that they had like in the last avenue. Gears Matron is they're just sitting there looking across now. The Lakers kinda coasted that year. Phil Jackson does not care about the regular season. Never there the three seen the edge. Fifty eight wins. It's not like they were bad but only three less than the king site. You're so we get to the playoffs and both of these teams just dominate on the way to this final like their obviously playing each other. 'cause they're playing the best basketball. The kings beat the Karl Malone. John Stockton Jazz. Three one nine nine nine close. Then they beat the Steve Nash. Dirk Nowitzki Mavericks. Four one another like another one of those teams. That should have been way better than they were like. Oh you look at the team. They have like Michael Finley. They've got a super deep team kings. Traction callum now. The Lakers on the other side Lakers played the Scottie. Pippen Rasheed Wallace Bonzi while Bonzi Wells. Really Really Deep Blazers team. That looks really good on paper. Sweep three Oh then. They play the Spurs. Tony Parker. Tim Duncan Dave Robinson. Four one like the kings and Lakers are obviously the two teams in the League. No one in the east even has a chance. No basically whoever won this was going to win. I think the Lakers went on and swept the Dennis. The Kenyon Martin Jason Kidd Richard. Richard Jefferson the big three. Anybody wherever any of these Westminster thing. So like kings and the Lakers. They finally meet the best the kings have ever been and may ever be. Hopefully not kings are up to one. They split in SAC. Which at the time seems like? Oh no we can't even own court. Then they win game three in La and they're unlike this super big high coming into this game then game for kings are just absolutely fire in the first they were up twenty after the first quarter at Dickey's looking good twenty point lead after one or any point would be for the Lakers to win. It would be the biggest comeback in the history of the play offs. To this point. Kings are looking good. You're the number one seed with twenty point lead. After the first they hang on in the second quarter they give up a couple. There's but they're up sixteen at half but at going into the half monkey walker one of my favorite names of all time so machi Walker hits like a half quarter from three and he didn't really get the shot off but they let it count because before instant replay. It was like a second and a half late in those three points. They come back huge at the end. You didn't think at Halftime Seven. Sixteen whatever sixteen point this game is over. We're moving on. We're going back to Sacramento. But no no they just slowly choke the game away the the Shack Guy. Koga there were pretty good. Robert ORGA STARTS TO GET hot. He hits a few threes. We get down to the final stretches game. He Hits a jumper from twenty one feet. He pays out this game so Hito is basically the other pasia. They had two patient. He was which was nice. Dominant this game thanks. Kiko scored like twenty one or something in this team like on a good shooting percentage to you all right so we're going to go through the last little stretch of the fourth quarter and we're going to stop a little dramatic last stretch. So Minna Fifty two. Hito hits a twenty one foot jumper. Which that's the thing that used to happen. There's no twenty one foot jumpers in the NBA. Now not kings are up six with a minute fifty two looking good rate thirty nine Robert. Ory hit the three Bob. You can just feel the air start to come here the king. Oh my Gosh Minna. Seventy no body hits another jump. I don't know how he hit the shot if you go back and look at the highlights of this game. What are you doing buddy? Oh great shot great. Shot the real five seventeen. Make your free throws in you win the game. Kobe heads one from eight feet. Though going to get that bucket. is good. Yeah heard of them three point game. Kristy Mrs at three forty seconds left up three you hack shack wanted to. This is the most effective thing that exists in basketball action at this point in the game. Twenty six seconds left Europe by three afoul shack. He makes both check. Never makes both never. I don't think he's ever made both besides this time. They actually run off fifteen seconds of clock before the Lakers can file them. Which is the perfect thing that you can do in the bonus yet. Yeah so they would have been two fouls but still fifteen seconds. It should be no seconds coming out the clock to do that. That's exactly what you're supposed to do now. Blahdy just makes both in Europe three and the Sacramento Kings Philosophy. Misses the first and you could just see everyone is like how. Oh my gosh. He makes a second though so eleven seconds left in the game and now we're going to do a little dramatic reading. I'm going to play the part of the king's fans asking to play the part of the Lakers fan. And you're gonNA hear what goes through our minds during these last eleven seconds all right gotta get a bucket please. Just one stock. Just get the ball to Kobe. GotTa Stop Kobe. You just need to get overtime. You can't give up a three year balls and I so Kobe love it. Get it out of his hand I get to the he missed it house enough foul get a rebound rebound. Shak yet. A rebound. Don't get get a rebound gut added missed a rebound lauderdale's loose some grabs o'clock even moving where he's wide open is there any time left get their Weber or the wind. I can't look big shot. How do you not get a rebound so following that? That was only game. Four of that series trae. That was the eleven seconds at you. Remember though that ball just dribbling out or it's like and he just stood there like he knew exactly. How much time was there like? He didn't go run for the ball and just shoot a quick to. He's now's coming to me. I'm GONNA have time. It looked like it was like perfectly choreographed that it's just yup big shutterbugs going to get it on top drain. Tips anywhere else anywhere. The time runs out. Or just gets the rebound because there's no one even around him when it gets it. Yeah it would have been tough rebound. But he thinks there's there. I mean Kobe Mrs Shack Mrs. There was only eleven seconds to start. There's no way there's time left on that clock. There's like one second when he tips it. So yeah I don't have been the quickest tip ever and then he gets it off still. Somehow he perfectly chose an almost gets there. Yeah he got close lesson we game four kings come to win game five now he come home win game five but then they lose the next two well under very questionable circumstances l. Let's not get into that. That's a whole nother episode. Where we're talking about the NBA NF scandal with Tim. Donnie and can't make a free throw game seven at home. They had every chance in the world in Game. Seven to win could win game five. They want game fi could have won. Game Four Yeah when over twenty after one give me a break and then the Lakers go on. They ended up winning the series. They just destroy the nets. Yeah four-game sweep and not even close kings. Would a wax them? Kings were the best team in that series against the Lakers. But what can you do? Sometimes the balls. Don't bounce your way but I think I think it's that game four-shot though is stuck with them if you win now all the Mohsen your dugout. You're up three one going home. Their whole attitude if you see all their after. Game Post Conference Oh. It was a lucky shot. All as a lucky shot win game five but then they got hosing game six. This is stuck with them though but and then from that point it's a whole new world like the team still good. They're still together for the most part I mean. They're a little bit older but decline next two years. They make it to the second round first round exits and over five. No six I think. That's like a Ron artest or Kevin Near that falls apart after that they lost to the spurs but he made that one layup that won the game at the Buzzer. No the only game. I think we want in that series and then they haven't been to the playoffs since. Oh six longest droughts in sports other than like the Seattle Mariners. Not Great not great. I'd say but I mean those eleven seconds I think to. Let's talk about what happens. If he misses the shot or time runs out and the Kings win this series. They go on and win a championship. The whole role changes point right. Yeah they start getting free agents. You don't get rid of albumin. Yeah definitely stays. I think Petri stays longer. He's still stayed a little bit longer. If he's GonNa Draft Jason Thompson again man. I'd rather get a u haul. That guy from Ryder Pie. I think like the whole world changes was a fan. I mean especially in my life until the cubs won until two thousand sixteen. I mean Ravens. I mean football's probably Might Lois. Fandom sport it goes baseball basketball for me and then hockey probably in two of my three of never won it in the only one that has the cubs so well. It's one of those things man. It's one of those moments that you remember where you were when you were watching it. I was supposed to go to a party as the only Laker Fan. There with a bunch of Kingston's. I'm glad I didn't go. I would have been bad living very awkward but I mean I remember as a freshman high school basketball practice. My coaches were huge kings fan. As was I but I'd go out there. Top of the key for two knows Robert. Ory hold that hand up is I'm backpedaling down the court it's just one of those memorable moments on good or bad you member and an economic moment in sports but especially in Sacramento. Everybody remembers that shot. That was the height and one of the biggest shots that I remember in the NBA. I think the probe that team that you're probably one of the best teams ever to not win. GotTa be the. Yeah the two thousand two kings or one of those Steve. Nash Sons Years where the Year Amari starting over the year the warriors broke the Bulls records and loss. Nba Rig that series. I think Tim was on that call to all right. I think that's all we got for that. I think any longer and troy's going to have a little panic attack talking about that shot. So we'RE GONNA move we're and move on and It's closer down closer down. It's been a long night. It's been fun. We had a good time So we are going to have our first in studio live guests next week. 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The Last Dance, Gronk Joins the Buccaneers, Fan Questions

Pull Up with CJ McCollum

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The Last Dance, Gronk Joins the Buccaneers, Fan Questions

"They seen it early on just because of explosiveness even his rookie year with the Bulls. They realized this kid is special like we. We drafted the right player in his game continued to evolve each year took leaps and leaves to the point where he was. Ashen thirty six thirty seven at night facing double teams which is crazy. Something tells me that Brady orchestrated this grant basically said something about Tom Brady. Who seems very calculated? He's smart. He wants to have as many safety blankets in weapons as possible. This revenge season for him whether he admits it or not. This is the season where he proves to himself to others that he can win without belly. We're GONNA definitely get into some fan questions. If you joy a team from any era which would it be who good one I might go to the Cath team? Net loss to the Bulls. Oh yeah that team was really good. Nineties Knicks would've been cool to the hundred and six episode club. That's right a hundred and six episodes. Hope everyone's doing well as well as it can be staying safe. Continue to practice social distancing while staying out the way actually went to Fedex. Today mask on gloves on. I was the only one in fed ex. He was a great trip. Quick in and out felt I was getting a taste of the real world again being able to drive my car. Leave the house all those things but we have a lot to discuss on this episode of the pull up pod. We have a lot to discuss from Gronk to the WNBA draft to the NFL draft. It's happening on Thursday to so much more I know. Patriots fans are definitely saddened by this news that Greg has decided to return to the NFL but only only if he can play with his pal. Tom Brady Jordan. Did you see this coming? Absolutely not so. This thing happened really fast to the reason. I'm so surprised is because like thinking about Gronk and everything that he's been doing since he retired from the NFL and obviously WWe commercials. Looks like he lost a ton away and he's obviously been through traumatic backgrounds. So I I'm surprised as anyone as you came back and was crazy to me is like he doesn't play a year and then all of a sudden it's traded is just so straits. I knew he was really hurting a new the subway from the game when he turned down a guaranteed ten million dollars. He had ten million dollars left on his deal. He decided to walk away on top and was really enjoying his life. He was doing his cruises. He's doing his fitness camps. You've got the ground. Cuff fitness working in full effect. And I think he had decided to deal with the wwe so he was in a position to really explore all of his post retirement options. Then suddenly I think the phone rang. A certain certain someone was on the other line asking begging pleading. What will it take for you to come back in? Groton basically said if we can get the Patriots to trade me. I'm in you think Brady hit them up. It was like I'm with it if you're if you're with it and Gronk was like I'm in just to Tampa. Something tells me that Brady orchestrated this for sure. There's there's something about Tom Brady. Who seems very calculated? He's smart. He wants to have as many safety blankets and weapons as possible. This revenge season for him whether he admits it or not. This is the season where he proves to himself to others that he can win without ballot check. I think we've talked about this but now I wanna hit it. Again is more pressure on ballot. Check or is the more pressure on. Tb Twelve to win this season. I think TV twelve. I think Both legacies for the record or solidified. I it is what it is but I think. Tv twelve goes to the bucks. He has all these weapons more weapons than more weapons than he's probably ever had his career from receivers to potentially a running back depending on how the draft goes. They got the fourteenth pick. They can do whatever they wanted. They can get right back in the second round. They got tight ends. They have a lot of weapons whereas the Leland. Patriots are under the radar. There's not a lot of pressure on on. This is supposed to be considered a down year thing Vegas Odds Hasim at about eight and a half. I've gone record saying I'm taking the under on that. I think this is the year they surprise people. No pressure under the radar and if they have a great season that it's it's like a New England did with New England always. Does they wind when they weren't supposed to this year for Tom. If he doesn't win games people are. What are we looking at him like He's not what he wants was and I think he understands that he knows that. There's a lot on the line which is why there's rumors that he was at a park yesterday. Tampa yeah someone say that Thirty Thousand Square Feet. Plac- hasn't Tampa wasn't enough. He needed to go to the park. To tighten up. Can you imagine like you're just walking around the park and you see Tom Brady working out? I think? Having there's gotta be hilarious site because I'm picturing him sneaking in trying to jump over the fence and go going in with his mask anywhere mask and gloves like to get in a entry like how did that go and did he think that he was going to get away with it when someone caught him but he think he was going to be able to. You know I'll give you a Jersey type of thing and if you don't say anything I don't think so I don't think so but with him anything you know you. You never rule anything out but you know what's crazy is like you think about Tampa Bay and they were seven and nine last season the bucks for an and I think if I'm not mistaken all nine of their losses were by eight points or less. Obviously Jamie's led the League in passing but he also became the first quarterback to thirty thirty and he broke the record for pick six's so if you can eliminate a third a quarter of those turnovers which Brady will then. Isn't that worth at? Least Three wins. And then you think about adding Gronk and who knows if they keep OJ Howard but they have two thousand yard receivers. They have Jones. Who's a nice young back? I'm sure they'll get another one. The only thing they really really need is a left tackle which they can address in the draft and they brought back. Jp AND CHECK BEHR led the league in sacks so they have all the pieces. Plus I think Bruce. Arians is a really good coach. And he'll Taylor the system more to Tom Brady than Sabljak. Would've yeah. I mean Lindsey the last time Tom Brady one less than nine games in the season. I can't remember it's been a long. No no so I think he. He knows what it takes to win. Obviously he has the weapons around him. They were closed with James. I think he puts them over the Hump with decision making now that. He's a better quarterback right now head to head. I think from a decision making standpoint taking care of the ball game management. Tom is a mastermind. I doing those things and I think. We'll we'll see that on full display this upcoming season like you said before they went seventy nine lost at essentially every game eight points or less. I don't see why they won't win. Three more games. Ten six seems very very fitting for Tom Brady his first year. Obviously they're gonNA have to work the kinks out. Because they're not in camp right now they would be together. You Know How. Tom is working on stuff. Thrown onto each other being able to me. Yeah being able to really understand checks. At the line of scrimmage the reads and they're missing out all of this but the only advantage they have is that the rest of the League is not together as well more pressure. I put the sign instagram. Curious to get your your taken. Twitter to the responses have been pretty varied. Is there a better chance of gronk winning Comeback Player of the year or Brady winning? Mvp Groin and comeback player here. Because there's too many there's too many lead players in the NFL who are going to put a video game numbers. Like Lamar is going to have another video. Game number type year mahomes is going to have a thing about homes. Doesn't get hurt fifty touchdowns. He's and he's gone for at least fifty touchdowns right forty fifty touchdowns low interception ratio crazy amount of passing yards. And then you have some running backs. Who'll be in that running this year? Especially have buddy from Carolina's GONNA put up crazy numbers again so I think Brady will have a good year but I think from a number standpoint. There's there's players that are going to put up numbers that you can't deny from MVP type of situation or scenario. Did you see the new uniforms? We got chargers Patriots. Falcons Brown's some pretty nice stuff. I thought that new charters uniforms where some of the cleanest I've seen in any sport any time. They had that basically paying homage to the past with a nod toward the future. They're just so unbel- they're like unbelievable to me like if I was a player I signed with the chargers. Just because off of Jersey's not not not because they're in California but you just you consider all of it I mean they play in Carson which basically is a glorified high school stadium if you haven't been there but they are in La. The got incredible uniforms alike. Anthony Lynn. Pretty Dope I liked their uniforms. I could say out of all those I think. The Falcons were underwhelming the uniforms or pre underwhelming to me yeah I think once you actually get everyone out there on the field running around and maim. My opinion may change a bit but I definitely like my browns. Jersey has seen last Last podcast I had it on. I'm a big fan of that going. Back to the retro. They look similar to to jers past years but I think that little splash with the stripes on the on the side it that give it that that flare that classic flair that we're looking for like the Bernie Kosar era. No you don't want you don't want anything. Burn you want you want Jim Brown? Hey Man Bernie was if if Baker can play perform at a level similar to Bernie will be. We'll be in great position. It's amazing as you see me wearing my blazer. Red And black it's amazing. How like how? Uniforms look good. When you're winning like it could change. If you're losing uniform slow it looks tired all of a sudden you pick up a few wins. And it's like that's kind of Nice true the jerseys that we had this past season you know. We've experimented with cream. We've done gray We've we've gone back to the nineteen seventy seven jerseys and I think they grow on right away. Some juries are just fire but sometimes it takes time for the Jersey to grow on you. You see it on. Tv It looks different. You see it on the contrast as a comparison to the other teams. You may be facing applying again. You start to grow a greater appreciation for the Jersey. So I think it's going to be cooled once. Everybody has them on you. You buy them you start going to bars and you start to see him. They'll grow on you similar to those sleeve jerseys we head back today in the NBA. They kinda grew on us. And Yeah but didn't like I remember talking about the Sleeve Jersey feeling like he was restricted like a straitjacket. And I remember in Poland Jersey all game. Yeah he's the ripped the sleeve to give them more freedom but he's he's also abnormally muscular. You know two hundred sixty two two hundred eighty pound guy wearing a t-shirt jersey just didn't seem right for him but he's still able to get through it. We have to give the update have to give a fee. Update has been doing tremendous. She's been sleeping a lot. She's been using the bathroom outside. She's destroying my grass. I come to the conclusion that Dogs peeing in grasses and great for it and it changes the color of the grass and base it makes a yellow yeah yeah and I have patches yellow patches all throughout the now which is I guess the the exchange you get for having a dog comes to the territory. But she's been doing great using a bathroom aside. We're excited about that. We've been going on walks and she's getting better she's opening up more and we're we're getting closer to that two month to month and a half a two month period to where she starts to realize this is her home now and she's happy about it and she growing fast like she's gain weight or no yes. We haven't waiter in three weeks but she looks to be at least forty pounds now at this point. She's at least forty. She was thirty three three weeks ago. So she's at least forty. I'd say forty pounds safe because she's getting heavier longer he'll be well over one hundred. Maybe if we keep feeding her like the way we are she eats a lot at night and after a walk she eats lodging salon and at night she gets hungry so we leave some food. We leave some food. Indicate for her. And she chumps on it. You know throughout the night. Well speaking of night The other night Sunday night we had the last dance parts. Wanted to and First Impressions for you were what? I was just so happy to watch something new on TV. Besides what I watch on Netflix. Excuse was involving basketball in the greatest player to ever play basketball. That was just excited like it was a game day I went to. I got a pregame workout. I bake some deep dish pizza. Shout out to the League for for setting that up. That was beautiful and the last dance. The pizza was amazing are posted on. Twitter was sensational deep dish. I had a cheese version as well as a pepperoni version. Put some peppers and onions on and it was great but I think the storytelling aspect is what I really enjoyed. Most how they set the scene early you know you have storytelling of Mike North Carolina years. How he wanted to go back to school. Aberdeen Smith made him go. Essentially a how they made him seem like a human being reading reading the letter that he wrote to his mom having his mom actually read it out loud. I basically like I only got twenty bucks left. Tell everybody can you send some stamps on those little stories? Guy People Situation in Arkansas. Where were they had bill? Clinton talk about what it was like to wash at D. to any I. I thought everything they did was a great setup. Brought all the characters back to life in in really told stories that people weren't necessarily aware of from the beginning. Yeah I love seeing the old pippen footage and I. I was struck by how vulnerable my goal became during parts of one and two. You know like the the letter when his mom's reading that letter back that was real for him like I. He probably hadn't seen her that letter in decades and so for him to experience that with his mom of all people must have been a really wonderful moment and we got to go in and feel that and feel what he felt and then take we got to visualize him writing that in his dorm and Chapel Hill and see Dean Smith who was just as wonderful man and you know legend of the four corner offense which basically changed basketball and helped with the shot clock to see Dean Smith. Tell Michael after his junior year. You gotta go. That was really really special. Yeah I thought that was nice of him and income shows you what type of person he was. I've heard a few stories like that where the coach steps in and says you have to go pro. Nejra shows you that. They're always looking out for the betterment of the player. Especially in this case when you have arguably the best player in college basketball playing you encourage him to leave a think. A mellow I've heard stories about coach cow telling players to go pro when they wanted to go back to Coach Canes Ions. Ion is another player. Who wanted to go back to school. So that Kinda shows you that you know these these coaches in some cases in circumstances they actually do care about the players and one of the things I really liked before we get into like some debating on some of the stuff they shared involving Jerry. Krause one of the things. I really liked Great Point Great Point Joe Shack at Lsu Shack. Wanted to go back to school as well so that was a good one. But I think one of the things I really liked about the story was how Jordan talked about the final play at North Carolina is freshman year. How the other team was in a zone. Georgetown's in his zone and most of their focus wasn't going to be on him. Focus was James Worthy exactly so james basically gave himself up as a decoy and Dean Smith was smart enough to say Haley. Swinging the ball around and When the ball comes back might be ready to shoot. You know you're relying on your freshman To hit arguably the biggest shot in the history of North Carolina basketball and it was a design. Play a lot of people probably didn't realize the Dow was. That was the shot that they wanted an open. Seventeen footer with Mike Shooting. Yeah. What's there's so much to unpack there for one. These Smith and I talked about the four corners. He had been criticized for so long because he couldn't win the championship. They got really close and they just kept falling short and for him to turn to Michael Jordan freshman albeit a great one. And say this is your time. Sixty five seventy thousand people in the superdome and then for James Worthy who was probably the best player in the country that season with Patrick Ewing for him to say I'm Gonna I'm GonNa give up the ball and allow Mike to hit a game winner potentially and allow him to have. This moment was incredible. The whole thing the way they set that up that one picture. Cj of him releasing the ball with the background it was magical and that was the beginning in many ways. Michael Jordan as as we know it and then to hear. Mike say that gave me the confidence to be Michael Jordan. Not Mike Jordan anymore is crazy. How those little instances and moments can shape your life in the future of your your life and what you believe. In Mike became a killer. He was still good. He was progressing. He was saying that he was going to be all these things he didn't necessarily believe in then he hits the game winner in the National Championship game and his confidence begins to rise. He begins to really believe some of the things that he's saying. I think that's important to realize there's a lot of athletes who go through that. Who Am I stage? Trying to figure out who they are as a player like in my what I think and then you start to get results in the game we work ethic in the results. Kind of a line and meet up and then you become super confident. I think that's what happened with Michael. He began to become extremely confident and abilities. And I think for James to be that selfless Kinda shows you. What type of person he was and he even said it in the beginning of the last dance show showing he said. I was buried Michael for about two weeks. Basically I seen it. I watched him play. And I say allow this this kid especially and for him a hall of Famer to to say that incumbent terms with that that early on Kinda shows you type of person he was. He didn't fight it. He embraced it. It's a great point because every player all these great players all time players all said the same thing whether it was bird and the eighty sixth series. We got to see when when Michael Average about forty four points a game on fifty one percent shooting crazy and then magic saying he's the most talented player in the league by far. They all solid before. I don't want to say before Michael Solid. But in a way maybe before he really knew just how good he could become. Yeah they they seen it early on just because of explosiveness even his rookie year with the Bulls. After a few practices they realized this kid is special like we drafted the right player in look. Jordan's numbers early on like Jordan didn't take a three-point his freshman year in College. He didn't take reporters junior year. He shot forty two percent his sophomore year. So Jordan was still kind of figuring the game out the average twelve points at thirteen points with fifteen and then or twelve fifteen nineteen or twelve. Nineteen something like that to where it wasn't a dominant score averaged. Nineteen twenty points per game goes to the NBA averages twenty eight as rookie. His his game continued to evolve. Each year took leaps and leaps to the point where he was averaging thirty six thirty seven at night facing double teams which is crazy. And when I told my friends was that in some of these Games there scoring eighty five points ninety exactly they had one hundred points one game. He had forty nine of them. He scored thirty eight out of eighty five. Forty eight eighty five that shows you lope low amount of possession as the pace is slow and he still dominating any had forty nine in sixty three in the garden with no three pointers attempted. I would be curious to see his his double nickel game when fifty five in the garden. What what the threes were in that game. Because you know what? Cj like the game if you go back and we could see it in a to a degree with highlights but if you go back and really watch basketball in the nineties and then in the eighties you know. It's it's like an entirely different game. The court is so condensed the possessions are so measured and every every bucket. Seems like? It's tough to get you know the players. Just they weren't. They weren't as talented and it's hard to score and he was. He was a magician. He was so far ahead of his time and to hear him. Also talk about what it was like coming back from that injury that ankle injury when he broke his foot his second year and the story about Reinsdorf the owner of the Bulls telling him Michael. I don't think you're understanding the danger of the situation. The magnitude right you. Hey he said if you had a headache and nine pills at ten and what occurred it but the other one would kill you. What would you do? Co. Said Defense. Al effing bad headache was that that mentality like that killer mentality and then for him to come back and drop sixty three in the Boston Garden on the world. Champion Celtics was unheard-of is crazy. All the stories little antidotes we get from this last dance basketball player basketball fan or Myra followers dream to be able to get all these small stories in one of the things before we move forward kind of debate. Some of the stuff that happened. It's crazy the detention that team had like looking back on it. I don't think I realized how fragile that situation was there. There was a lot of animosity between Jerry. Between feel between my between Scotty between ownership there was a lot going on there to the point where now we're hearing stories about how they were trying to break the team up before ninety eight before that season I think ninety four ninety five and Jerry essentially allow them to keep going but the fact that he told feel recipes because he's no longer defend themselves so it's Kinda hard to tonight get both sides but he told Phil. I don't care if you go eighty two. This'll be your last season that's crazy that's desk crazy. And I like how Phil Approach as the last dance the way he kinda shape that season. It's going to be really interesting to see like Rodman side of things. Rodman asking for a vacation in the middle of the season like just to hear some of those stories. I think this is going to make everything that much more fun to watch and enjoy them so the story. I have a couple of antidotes to add one about Robin which is going to be great. Because he's going to be the feature guy in parts three and four. I believe like ninety ninety five percent he said but Jerry we knew Jerry Krause was gonna be a focal point of the negativity in the last dance because we had heard the stories we knew he wanted to break them up. He didn't want Phil Back. Mj have made it abundantly clear. He wouldn't play for anyone but Phil. So therefore after ninety eight that was it but cj a couple of things. I I was at the ninety seven ninety six ninety seven finals in Seattle. Wish Chicago versus Sonics. And you know I was a kid. Obviously but if you would've told me or I think anybody at the time that wasn't really privy to it that they had all this inner turmoil specifically with with Scotty Michael Beacon Scotty was selfish the GM the head coach trying to hold it all together it it was like. I don't know how you function with that. Let alone thrive and win a championship. So it was. It was really interesting to see how they were able to sift through it and how Michael had to hold it all together given. That Scotty was his guy. I mean as as Rodman said and I think he was right at that point he was the second or third best player in the League. Was like Scotty Akeem Mike You know. Peyton and it was those were the guys malone. It's interesting to see how Jordan kept together. How feel kept everything together? And they kept a lot of this behind closed doors. Obviously social media has changed since the ninety eight season but the fact that there was they were they were honestly dysfunctional. They were a dysfunctional team with a lot of issues at hand to the point where Scotties cursing Algeria in public. That's a heat in public for everyone to see like it was nothing to say huge huge problem and I'm surprised honestly got through. That season Scotty demanded a trade. I knew Scotty wanted out. But I didn't know. He publicly demanded trait in the middle of the season. Refused to come back told him that. I'm getting surgery and that and I quote I'm not about to F. UP my summer for you guys. That is crazy. We were talking about that. Can you imagine like let's say you have an injury? Cj AND SEASON ENDS. And you say you know what. I need surgery. I'M GONNA wait till October to get that was calculated and now is a big. That was a big decision for him to make. It's funny. It's ironic that it came down to this because I remember you know researching after the the last dance and seeing some some insights as to what really led to that. The ownership group essentially told him. You're not going to be happy with the deal halfway through. You WanNa feel like you're underpaid. It's not a great deal for you. If I were you. I wouldn't sign it. And he basically wanted to security for his family. You know coming from a town of thirty five hundred people. It made sense for him to to look at the median salary of where he was at. You know when he signed the deal he was like what the six highest paid player in the NBA. That time he was behind Jordan and a few other guys and then the NBA landscape shifted in law and he was already locked into a seven year. Eighteen million dollar deal. So I think Scottie. At the end of the day. He was mad at the circumstances situations averaging twenty six and five just three P. Did you know so he's looking like hey? Let's just renegotiate his deal. I want to be here longer. And they're thinking like no. You agreed to this. This is contractually what you have to play for Gaza circumstances and Scotty why long-term he ended up making over one hundred million. It's funny. He made more basketball on court money than Mike did. She said Mike had interested Nike and other and other avenues. That allowed him to become a billionaire. While it was it was eighteen million over seven and he was the this is part of the dock. It was one hundred twenty second highest paid player in the League. The sixth highest paid player on the Bulls so he had every right to be upset but he should not have signed that contract given the circumstances. Yeah he can say that you could say that he shouldn't have signed it. It was a bad deal for sky to be locked in seven years. But you're talking about a kid who's coming from a situation where he was the equipment manager and you tell him eighteen million dollars guaranteed and a seven year. Deal is a long term. Deal the matter how you perform. You've got guaranteed bread. So I think he was looking back on it he probably could have. I could have probably taken a two or three year deal. But who's to say everything would have worked out. Well if he gets an injury in between that time his value definitely would have gone down. Scottie Pippen Scott PIP deaths. That's a bar. He was named Scotty Pippin. That's actually hilarious. He he had earned the name. Scotty one one more out you talked about Rodman wanting you know time to himself then I ever tell you the story and I'm pretty sure I haven't and I don't think I've ever shared this publicly but that I ever tell you the story. Cj About Rodman coming to our house and the early two thousands wanting to come back. No I don't think I don't think I remember you telling me that this story. I've kept this story pretty close to vest but there's no re. It's never going to be a better time to tell the now when when when we had when we had the team the Sonics in the early two thousands We got approached. My Dad got approach from Dennis. Rodman's int- saying Dennis was interested in coming back and playing for the Sonics so naturally we took the meeting here where I am right now and Rahman comes to the House. Okay comes up comes already. Laugh my pops is not a big Tattoo. Guy Right he remember. He turns me so so many tattoos. I said dad you just gotTa you gotTa put blinders on. He he can help us. You know Dennis Rodman and still warm. And he's still in great shape. Dennis was a relentless worker. That that's another part of this like people didn't know hardly worked. He was in great shape. Still He'd be on a league. I think he banned the League three or four years so he comes over and he says Really Interested in playing my dad's like okay. Yeah well we potentially love to have you and we think you could. Really be an enforcer for us and we need a physical presence. So what's you know? Let's let's really think about this and then it said whether only is one is one condition. Am I have what what what what is it? Dennis goes on and I. I don't know the exact terms of this because it's literally been almost two decades. So I'm I'm paraphrasing a little bit. But he says Love to play but I only do it if I can get about three months off during the season and come back before the playoffs. Ready to roll and my dad said what he wanted. You WanNA takes months off. I think it was months like two three months and he said Yeah. I'll come back. I'll be in great shape and then I can alternate games and I'll be ready to go for the playoffs. I had said that he's out this crazy months off during the season. I think he wanted months off with stipulation that like he might come back and play three or four games and then take another few weeks off a month off here and there but he wanted to play a fraction of the actual eighty two game schedule with the thought that he would be really ready to go for the postseason which was a big no and the Schultz House and I remember pleading with my dad. The and Mike Who Cares it? Sits Robin just bring them on board and he was like no? We still way we can do that. That's crazy that he actually asked for that. I think it's even crazier that he asks for. He asks for a vacation. This season with the Bulls and was granted. I'M GONNA. I'm under the impression that they gave him those. Those forty eight hours which is even crazier for them to be like Dennis. You need your time. Go Go ahead take two days off. Miss this game for personal reasons and we'll figure out how to get you like symptoms. Food like Jordan's flu game. Dennis Jordan Jordan slew game wasn't the fluid poison. If I heard he heard he was hung over. While there's that theory too but the real the theory that I've heard that my whole the most water is at at three o'clock in the morning. One is steak steak. It's delivered in his room. He's really sick sick the whole day put an IV in and. That's Kinda where like the flu thing came because he had a fever but regardless he obviously was sick he might have been hung over to. Who knows the I like it? I like it last question for me to you on this topic is if you were hung over not crazy hung over but if you were hung over could you still be affected because you still have an infective. Nba game like fifteen in four easy. You're you said it like you already done at Najd. Never done it. I don't drink during the season. I know assize wine. We're going to definitely get to some fan questions that were submitted to us on social media and the community APP. That's coming up after the break. 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Leave everything you have on the court so that when you go home you can be confident that you did your best to help the team win. Mindset mentality I think I did all those things and I wasn't worried about failing. This is a good one for you to Jordan from yeah ill. Quinton are there any purchases that have given you buyer's remorse? Yes but you go for buyer's remorse Okay this is easy so when I was when we first got the dog fi fi I was ordering cages on Amazon for her but all the cages. We're talking about a month so I ordered to. And they both came at the same time and they're huge cage is only one so buyer's remorse in a second cage. Basically I'm going to drop this cage back off at the organ dog rescue and they're going to have an extra cage. Whoever over purchases large dog? That's wonderful love that I got. I got a few one would be. When I graduated college. I went and bought a suit from for myself and I thought it was like a really cool suit. I wanted to be different because I was just getting one and I bought the suit was like it was Kinda like Brown with like silver pinstripes. Browett I I remember the time I told the guy. I want it to be like a great gatsby suit. And he said okay. Yeah and when I got it. Cj I'm ever GONNA on my watch girlfriend at the time just said No. I spent way too much on it and I think I might have worn at once and it was like Greg Glaspie so as a flash she so bad for more dinner type was terrible. I gave it away. He gave away all right another one. Best moment as a blazer. Best Mama as a blazer would be going to the Western Conference finals. I think Dow cool moment When we when we want in the on the road in game seven and then being able to play in a conference finals and be that close to playing the actual files was was cool. Where are you a fan of the Blazers? I was a huge fan of the blazers. They had a lot of guys who she'd mighty mouse. The list goes on and on a lot of a lot of players who play with flash play with swagger play with Alma Mater. Everybody everybody was you know they had their personality. No Zibo there's so many players that were a part of those great great years of technical technical fouls she'd plan in the forces. Those were some really dope moments. This is a good one for you to this is from some someone on the community APP. Who in your opinion are some of the best young players in the NBA? Obviously you got the bookers Donna. The mitchells those guys but Allied Shea He's he's good he's GonNa be. He's going to be special I like Colin Sexton. I think he played a lot better. This season's more efficient more effective. He's string together. Some Nice Games In Cleveland I'm not sure what they're gonNA do with those to keep them together or not but they're they're in a good position in terms of young talented youth. Yeah there's a lot I mean there's so many good ones are obvious. Tatum DONNCHA which I like Fox. A lot you mentioned I mean eight and played really really well for Phoenix. When he was in the lineup by he was one of the best centers in the League for basically a month so I like him a lot and him in Devon could be really interesting together we forget. I mean Zaylon Ingram yet. That that Kors is tough. Lonzo's Air We like Atlanta's young guys. Yeah trae young and all of those guys to the shooter. You got really good at hunter. You Got Reddish. They got a lot of talent. They're going to. They're going to be a problem for some years to come once they figure everything out. I think I'll do one more favorite road arena to play as a great question. I got for you. I love playing Memphis because Memphis is where I you know. I started really playing especially in the playoffs. And they They've helped they've helped my career a great deal Based on how I perform in those playoffs gave me a chance to start the next year. So I'm forever grateful and I also love playing in the garden. The gardening special atmosphere regardless of their record is always a great time and the fans are always locked in involved in the game. Where what's your favorite arena to watch? Yeah I'd be remissed by the way if I didn't mention our guy. Tyler hero friend of the show to the show for sure. Nice job. We like t h a lot favorite arenas love the garden. Barklays cool is not that loud but it's a very clean fun atmosphere Staples is fun. Portland's am I mean. I love Portland. Jumping the all. Tell you what that's really underrated. The old Arco Arena and sack. I remember going into a playoff game. There in the early two thousands and it was unreal. It wasn't very nice. It wasn't that big but it was really loud and really fun. San Antonio is not that loud but like there's a random place to have an MBA MEA team. And it's it's fun. It's a fun place. Yeah San Antonio it is unique. The river walk. You have all of that. They're and they're fans especially when they go around especially when they were. You Know Ginobili Donkin. Tony Usually get so loud in there. They were going those runs. It was it was crazy. This is a good one. If you could joy a team from any era which would it be and why Napa George one good one? Wow I might go to the cavs team. Net loss to the Bulls. Oh yeah that team was really good casting net loss to the really good team with a lot of guys poor craigie though he had just hit. Go ahead shot in that game. How about how about lawlessness in the nineties bulls? That's too obvious. Maybe maybe the nineties Knicks. They could have used another guard. You and starks ninety Nixon would have been cool Sacramento Kings baby era. I WANNA be Noah the sons with Nash Fun Sons. Nash would've been cool. So there's some situations in Arizona like I would like to play in. That area would have been cool to to go up against those guys in and go head to head. Let me follow up. With which legendary big would you rather played with shack or Kareem in this era shack in all in another Era Korean? You can't go wrong. Shack is just so big visibly imposing dunks. Everything but Kareem skill set is unmatched one more before have to go. If one retire blazer could join the current team. Who would you pick do? Oh that's tough. That is a great one. I would go out. Go Wall in or Cli- patriots the sleeper. Though I gotta sneaky one for you either Terry Porter or you said quite what about was it. Pippen of Laser Scotty was a blazing. Yeah Scottie was ablaze. He definitely would have helped cue. I got the relic. Pino CJ relic Pino from California. I send it to you and I was a gift from a from. Some friends and one of them was a small. Ea and she said it was great value. You'RE GONNA love it and we did. It was about sixty bucks seventy bucks depending on the year and they have some higher ones but man it was It was great value. I don't have my Vino APP. I don't have it in front of me so I can't give you the Tannin structure or alcohol content but are E. L. I. C. Relic Really. Good you know. That's a good one. I've been drinking soldier because my ship came in. So I'm GONNA switch over the adults Simon and switching back over to some of my local favors from the Willamette Valley. What's