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The Merry Widow of Windy Nook

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19:38 min | 11 months ago

The Merry Widow of Windy Nook

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Daniel tucker chamberlain was driving ninety five miles per hour when his car slammed into a vehicle driven by lisa white in the passenger seat was her husband fifty nine year old tyrone white father of james white and captain with the miami dade county police department tyrone was killed officials say lisa white was seriously injured but is recovering chamberlin of hollywood florida surrendered himself last week and was being held in the broward county jail. He is charged with the hickey. Homicide reckless driving and speeding a court. Appearance is set for friday. A racine man has been charged with murder in green bay homicide case that dates back more than three decades sixty five year old new archie griffin has been charged with first degree intentional homicide in the strangulation. Death of lisa hall said in august of nineteen eighty six. The body of the twenty two year old single mother was found in a swamp in green bay. Nature reserve holstead was strangled with an item of her own clothing. In november of nineteen eighty-one griffin had been convicted of second degree child sexual assaults and sentenced to nine years in prison. He served five of those years. At the green bay correctional institute and was released on parole on may twentieth nineteen eighty-six investigators say that at bat time griffin was living within a few miles of where the victim's body was found. Police haven't yet said exactly what led them to griffin a criminal complaint says that investigators trailed griffin in racine last month and obtained dna from a couple of beer cans and a cigarette of forty. Say it came back. As a match to dna found on halstead's body griffin's bond has been set at one million dollars cash in brown county circuit court. Three people in springfield have been charged with killing a south missouri. Man during a burglary twenty five year old riley. Call your is charged in greene county with first degree murder in the october twentieth killing a thirty nine year old stanley simon. The other two suspects forty year. Old michael staffer and eighteen year old patricia davis face a lesser charge of second degree murder court documents. Say that the three went to stanley simon's residence that night to burglarize his home. After the homicide they allegedly stole simon's truck a dirt bike and to chainsaws collier faces. The more serious charge because authorities believe it. He was the one who pulled the trigger. Those your true crime headlines up next the merry widow of windy nook but first a quick break. This episode is brought to you by magic spoon as a kid. I loved cereal and so did my mom. It was the fastest way to get us kids to feed ourselves and get out the door to school every morning. 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Get the new natural healthy way to feel better at feels dot com slash m. Welcome back to murder minute. Mary elizabeth cassidy was born on june eleventh eighteen. Eighty nine in. Durham england and crisp on june thirtieth at our blessed lady and saint joseph twenty five years later in november of nineteen fourteen. She married her first husband. John knowles. Mary and john moved into a house. In windy nook gateshead the couple would go on to have three sons and three daughters together. Two children died in infancy decades later. When mary and john took in a lodger at their windy nook home a painter named john russell. Mary began having an affair with him in nineteen fifty five after forty one years of marriage. Mary's husband john knowles died the following year. Her lover john russell also died seemingly of natural causes mary now in her mid sixties inherited forty two pounds between them worth roughly one thousand one hundred pounds today a year later in june of nineteen fifty seven. Mary married her second husband retired. Estate agent oliver leonard. Twelve days later he too was dead from one to be heart failure and pneumonia. Mary inherited fifty pounds from oliver steph or thirteen hundred pounds today by now. People started noticing that. Mary's husbands seemed to be dropping like flies. Mary even joked to the undertaker that she should receive a trade discount because of the amount of work she was sending nevertheless four months after oliver was buried in october of nineteen fifty seven. Mary mary her third husband. Seventy six year old retired engineer. Ernest lawrence wilson a cheerful well educated man who was well liked in the community. His estate was worth twice as much as oliver's plus a bungalow and life insurance on the day of her third wedding when. Mary was asked what she was going to do with all the leftover party sandwiches and cake. Mary joked that they should keep them for the funeral. Earnest and their wedding guests laughed two weeks later on november twelfth nineteen fifty seven. Mary wilson called the doctor to inform him that her husband was gravely ill. He wasn't fact already dead since ernest had been receiving treatment for heart problems for many years. The doctor listed his cause of death. This heart failure. This time mary didn't even bother to attend the funeral and her absence did not go. Unnoticed police ordered the bodies of ernest. Wilson and mary second husband all over. Leonard exhumed a pathologist confirmed that both had died from phosphorus poisoning. I am not worried about what they are saying. Mary told us sunday some reporter the day after her husband's bodies were exhumed. I can go to the blessed sacrament. I am a catholic. Tomorrow i take no notice of the tiddle rattle. It is all jealousy. I am not worried at all about what's going on. But when her former lodger john russell and her first husband john knowles were zoomed. They too were found to contain high levels of phosphorus. Mary attempted to play the innocent old woman but it wasn't working anymore. The papers dubbed her. The merry widow of windy nook a title that mary didn't appreciate. She continued to protest her innocence. I have nothing to fear. She told the news of the world people are saying i caused the deaths of four men three of them. My husband's the fourth my lover. It's all lies. i've never harmed any man in my life. They can't made the merry widow of windy nook rubbish. I am sixty six years old. And all i have to live on his two pound a week old age pension. How can people be so cruel. In march of nineteen fifty eight mary. Wilson was tried for the murders of her second and third husband's oliver leonard and ernest wilson. Mary's defense was that how husbands were taking sexual stimulation pills which were known to. Sometimes contain phosphorus. The crown's case was that mary murdered her husband's with phosphorus found in beetle poison and disguised it as pills after six day trial and ninety minutes deliberation. The jury returned their verdict guilty. You have been convicted of murder. The clerk of the court hugh radcliffe said. What have you of yourself to say. Why sentence of death should not be passed upon you. According to law. Mary stood silently in the dock. The judge put on his black cap and sentenced her to death by hanging but due to her age and her gender. Mary was given clemency in may of nineteen fifty eight. Mary sentence was commuted to life imprisonment and she was sent to holloway women's prison four and a half years later on december fifth nineteen sixty two. Mary wilson died in prison at the age of seventy. Mary was the last woman in england to be sentenced to death by hanging. This has been murder minute for true crime anytime. Download the murder minute app or follow us on instagram at murder minute.

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Phil Steele Talks Texas A&M, Houston And All Things College Football

The Sean Salisbury Show

17:15 min | 3 weeks ago

Phil Steele Talks Texas A&M, Houston And All Things College Football

"I got shot homemade. Avail quarterback john renshaw cells. Very this is the sean salisbury. Show sportstalk seven ninety. What a thrill this is and when you think college football for years and years and years and still do. This is the name highschoolers college they know all about it and we got him now. College football expert and author of phil steele's college. Football preview joins us. Here on the sean sows. She'll fill always great to talk to you. My friend thanks for thanks for coming out. Let let me ask you this. I go back and we'll get right to college football. Why did you start doing this. Because it's turned into an amazing success. You know sean. That's a great question About thirty years ago. I was writing a football newsletter. And we'd go out and buy every single. Preseason magazine was on the market back then as you know. There's like twenty two magazines. And so i would get my notebook out and i would start compiling all the information from all the magazines and i get done and there were teams. I could barely even compile a one deep on so i start compiling the information myself I need to get to complete rosters. Forty on every team and i started putting it on the pages and one day. Somebody walked him off. Once you put that into a magazine so i did The first year was black and white. It was on newsprint. Twenty seven years ago and But once somebody got a hold of it it's so much more information everybody else that they became a lifetime reader at that point and it just keeps growing. We actually went to full color after like five years. It took to get the full color in the magazine but now twenty seven years later Quite a difference phenomenal phenomenal run and you have so many people that want to get your opinion and we we hang on every week. Come out phil. I can't wait till that magazine comes out. And it's been like that damn near three decades for all of us. And you can find that at barnes and noble nationally. Okay with that. For instance on a saturday morning. Gimme gimme an idea of what a saturday morning looks like or a friday night heading into saturday just what time your day starts and college football. What's a day like for you on saturday. I got i got twelve. Tv's in front of me sean. So i'm watching twelve games all day long. I've got diet mountain dew drinking it just down in it all day. Long trying to stay sharp and I'm focusing on twelve games all day long and my biggest gripe right now in college football sean is fact. These games take too long. So there's a lot of these twelve o'clock games that are still going on at three thirty when the next batch is starting. I wish they'd speed the games up a little bit maybe Have the incomplete passes get. The clock started again because too many games are running into each other but Yeah all the way up through that. Three o'clock hawaii game in the morning when that thing finally ends and i had to bed but It's it's a long day on saturdays. Yeah but you know nobody. Does it better because of how much you've got to cover in and always a head of the curve now so with that do you when when you're watching it. Are you taking notes the whole time or is it just all socked away in your memory Most of it is memory but definitely there's some key notes i'll be like. oh wow. That was a huge play. Was the you know third. Or they're at the one yard line about the score. And it was a ninety eight yard fumble return for a touchdown. Note things like that but for the most part. Yeah i'm just Keeping it in my head and that's actually one thing. I've got good re recall on. Sean is that. I can tell you about a game in the third quarter for maybe three four or five years ago or even ten years ago Anything else so in life. If you said put me in a grocery store and said go find. The bread is clueless but I at least i. I'm tuned into college. Football one of the best. There is one of the foremost and most accurate college. Football analysts over the last three decades. He's a committee member of voter of fifteen different college. Football awards including the heisman. And we all wait for his college football season preview book. That comes out every single year. Phil steele joins us here. On seven ninety. Sean sows reshow. Okay so then. Won't before i get into some of the surprises improve teams in what you're looking at this college football season do you. What did you like. What do you like more. Did you like eighties. Football nineties football. Is it a better game now to you with all the passing and spread or are you a little more old school and you thought process about if you were picking what was better football for you. Yeah you know. I think you always like the past better than the present And you know going back to wishbone. Football nebraska oklahoma. Remember greg pruitt johnny rodgers players like that Bear bryant at alabama walk in the sidelines. i think now with the there's just so much passing into game but you have to adapt and that's what teams are doing. And it's going to be sick. Cyclical sean Talk i talked to one hundred ten to one hundred thirty head coaches this year and a lot of them are gonna use more too tight ends. Because now everybody's taking out that third linebacker making a more safety personnel getting lighter at that in the front seven than in the past. And i think you're gonna see teams exploited that way and we'll get back to teams using two tight ends to explain the way the defenses are set up to come back to spread so a lot of the stuff is sick with sickle. But yeah i'm an old school guy. I go back in Remember the The old offenses and the old game and probably a little bit more fond on that. But i think that's why everybody is in life. Greatest football play. You saw play college football there has been. Yeah i mean just one that maybe or to that you say man. That's the guy. Yeah i i you know you have to think Just watching herschel walker play and they impact. He had as a true freshman was phenomenal. But you know look at earl campbell. And the what he did back in the seventies so But and you know. I grew up in ohio. Archie griffin was a two time heisman. trophy winner. i wouldn't put him in the greatest ever. I put him in a guy that wants to heisman trophies. So i'd go herschel walker and earl campbell is probably the top two and some old school names on defense back in the day rich glover. Is you know. Nebraska leroy salman. So there's been some great ones. I love to reminisce account one of these times. I got to get you on and talk to you for like three hours about this. Because i get fired somebody. Who's your surprise. Got a surprise team or two for this twenty. I mean we really kicked it in last week but this week one. That was weak. Zero sum games on thursday night. Who's your biggest surprise team or two in college football this year. Yeah let me give you my top two surprise teams this year. Sean and a surprise team by the way is a non top ten team that i think can contend for the playoffs. And we've got a pretty good track record you back to two thousand and sixteen. I had washington. That's my number. One surprise team in washington actually made the playoffs that year. In two thousand eighteen notre dame was not in the preseason top town. They were my number one surprise team. They made the playoffs and last year. I had texas a and i'm coming off a five law season. That's my number one surprise team. There was selection sunday. They almost made. It is between them and ohio states. That playoff spot up my two big surprise teams this year. Number two would be wisconsin They've got a tough test here in the opener against penn state. But when you look at them last year. The only average three point nine yards per carry. Now that's atypical for wisconsin. They usually average five six yards per carry They didn't really have a feature back last year. And now they've got four of what i call are very highly touted running backs running behind the big offensive line. They'll get that fixed. They also have a quarterback in grand merz who had twenty out of twenty one passes in the opener last year then got covert missed. A couple of weeks of practice wasn't the same after that you put them both together. They've got a potent offense. They've got the defense and then look at their schedule if they get past penn state in the opener therefore big ten road games. They're all against teams. That had losing records last year. Their toughest road test of the year is notre dame where they're actually a slight favorite. You might see wisconsin favored in all twelve games this year yet. They're not anywhere near the top ten. They have a shot at making the plan. Especially if the fact the last two big ten title games they played against ohio state and both seventeen and nineteen. They gave ohio state a game both times. So keep your eyes on wisconsin but my number one surprise team is really a surprise because this washington huskies. And when you look at washington. They've got that big offensive line. Three hundred twenty eight pounds per man. They're they're running backs. Go five. Deep sean They've got to veteran quarterbacks. They've got a good tight end room with k. Dot and and defensively. Jimmy lake always does a great job. They've had just two and six returning starters last two years this year. They've got eight starters back on defense and then their scheduled. I absolutely love they. Avoid usc and utah out of the south. The two top teams and their toughest two games all year our oregon and arizona state and they get them both at home and i feel field that just going to be huge this year because fans are deprived to going to the games last year. They're gonna return in large numbers. They're gonna return very loud. So i actually have washington favorite in all twelve games. And they don't even know if they're in the top twenty this year So keep your eyes on the washington. Huskies or a big time surprise. Still still as good as it gets. It gets three hundred and fifty two pages. The twenty twenty one college football been doing it for three decades and his as good as joins us here for all our college football stuff on the. Sean sows berry. Show on. I'm glad my trojans don't have to deal with washington oregon. So they should be. They should have a really good chance and ucla. Maybe a surprise to them. How if i ask you three years from now phil what will we be saying about. Texas and steve sarkisian. What would your answer be I think you'll get them back there and keep up by texas. Last year wasn't far off from being there You look at their losses. The tcu game. They fumble at the goal line at the end of the game. Down two points. They could easily have won that game. The oklahoma game goes four overtimes. Change one play. They win that one. The i was thinking they let almost start to finish. I was took their first lead of the game with two minutes. Left in the game. One by three were actually three. Plays away from being undefeated. Last year tom. Herman would have been crowned king of texas they would have been in the big twelve title game Taking on oklahoma or iowa state and it would have been a completely different season. And when i talked to coach turkeys and this year he liked the talent. He inherited the biggest question mark. Who's going to replace the quarterback. Sam allender i think hudson carter do well but he liked the talent they inherited and his expectations are high and he pointed out to me that they were three plays away from being undefeated which was my thought process coming in so i think texas will be closer to being back than they are now. I'm not gonna officially say it until it happens so sean too many times. It's been said these last five ten years. Yeah no doubt about it. Now fill you add mentioned in your most improved teams. You had university at houston at five. Why well you know you. You take a look at dana hoeger. Sin for two years he's had here at houston Neither one of those years were normal his first year. He's got the air king quarterback things are going. Okay at the start of the year and then all of a sudden they decided to redshirt a good portion of the team including king and they were short handed the rest of the year last year. They're all set and ready to play. The opening game of the season postponed. Second game postpone third game. Postponed fourth game postponed Player sat out and it was a tough three and five season but look at talent they have. There's a lot of good players a lot. Nfl caliber town defensive. Front seven clayton tune is now inexperienced quarterback. There deepen the running back corps with mova car to john henry. They've got the offensive line. It'll be improved this year. I looking at houston. I only have my true underdog against also. I've got a couple of up games. Texas tech at two lane or tossup games. But i think they go from winning just seven games to hold her since i two years to winning eight nine potentially even ten games this year. I think they're are very talented team. And it'll be the first real season for dana. Hoeger sohn they houston the great seal steal one of the best in college. Football giving us a preview. You can also find his magazine. Barnes and noble. His book is preview. Twenty twenty one college football preview. And it's there and phil working to get it online. Is it phil steele dot com. Yeah feel dot com. You can get it online and if you get the hard copy you can also get the digital copy for just ten bucks and the digital copy. This year sean will include everything that's happened since the magazine went out any players that are lost for the season or transferred. We'll have them circle and anybody that's been added to the teams. We'll have added to the digital pages. So it's really a a nice thing to have the hard copy but also the digital the up jay you get that hard copy and then with this transfer portal thing man you to be online to to say there's eighty thousand of these guys float around and that the great thing about digital up to date to the minute which is awesome. All right couple ask. Questions is obviously the safe pick. It would seem for the heisman. Spencer rattler lincoln riley offense. They've been there before. And this kids really good. Is there one after him that you say sneaky pick and could win this thing in your top five. Yeah i don't know if they're overly sneaky but the three new quarterbacks for the national title contenders 'cause if you're the quarterback for an undefeated team and you're surrounded by talent. You're gonna put up good stats. You'll be a heisman contender. So c. j. stroud of ohio state has got a shot at being there at the end of the year even though ohio state for the first time since nineteen fifty two has zero career pass attempts to qb went surprise. Me trouser heisman. Finalists this year. Dj younger lali of clemson got into starts last year. Look pretty good. He's got a great supporting cast. And then of course. Bryce young of alabama once again tremendous supporting cast. The guy hasn't started a game yet but at least he got his feet wet last year. I think three of those three untested quarterbacks all have a shot at being in new york at the end of the year man. We got some good young players at that position illegal k. phil. I don't even know if you've got this out yet in your but in your mind is ringing off. Everybody that people don't know and giving us such good insight though when it comes to the final four. Are you going chalk with the with the way it is or if there's a legitimate non the guys that aren't in the top four like the is texas. Am cannell a team like iowa state sneak in you gave us your surprise teams but are the four that we think ohio state clemson alabama oklahoma. Is that it or as a georgia or somebody else. Got a chance to sneak in there. Yeah those are the four that i put on the cover. Those of the four i projected but i do like to teams chances Texas and you touched on them sean. here's a team. That had the best defense in the sec. Last year they've got nine starters back defensively and offensively they lose four starters on the offensive line but i talked to coach jimbo fisher at the end of last year and he told me then. I feel that this year's upcoming offensive line phil will be more talented than this year's offensive line and they were joel moore award finalist so i asked him after spring practice when it went through the team with them. Would you still feel the same way. He said yes. In fact you know the four offense lineman they lost only one got drafted and he feels all five of these offense lineman this year our nfl. Draftable guys. so i think texas and then we'll be fine defensively if you watch their game against alabama last year. I know they lost by twenty eight but watch the first half closely. It was like three or four place. Difference through the three or four place really turned the outcome of the game. They get him at home in college station october the night. They've got six five games to get that offensive line and hangs up to speed. I think an could upset alabama and then the other one would be georgia. And when you look at georgia they play clemson in the opener win or lose that game. There's still a contender. There'll be favored and all the rest of their games. They only have three true. Sec road games this year and they come against teams at all. have first year. Head coaches auburn tennessee. Vanderbilt the meanwhile they play florida. The neutral site against the rest of the teams at home georgia will be favored. And they're finding eleven games most likely all of them. By maybe a touchdown or more and then you get to the championship if they play alabama remember the last two times they played alabama and the postseason georgia's trailed alabama grand total of two minutes in those two games. They came up with two losses so they know they can play with them. I think texas georgia legitimate threats. This year all starts for the most part this week because really the nebraska was never gonna win anything for. That's for another day. The great phil steele the recall is better than anybody in the country. It's unbelievable college. Football expert and author of phil steele's college football preview. Been doing it for almost three decades and man. I hope you'll join us again. Great stuff and we're always here in. We'll we'll call on you because quite frankly we need somebody with this expertise and we appreciate you. Fill thank you keep it up. Always good talking to you sean. Thanks for having me on today. Good luck this football season. Thank you it should be a blast and hopefully we get it all in phil thank you my man appreciate you. He is phenomenal man. His recall guys is through the roof. We'll come back and discuss. He loves am and why not jimbo. Fisher's unbelievable job sports talk seven ninety chance south ratio.

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Hour 3: 6/24/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

00:00 sec | 2 years ago

Hour 3: 6/24/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the Capital, One sabre card earned four percent cash back on dining and entertainment, two percent of grocery stores, and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. The fried passion than patterns re of college football leaves Keer. The is no Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast. We walk on the back to the program. Glad you're here a busy I two hours. Let's continue. More phone calls in more guests already. And let's go right back to the calls and James is in Fort Worth. James. Thank you. Good afternoon. Hey, it's so good to talk to you. I'm always so flattered to be able to get through to you. I thank you very much, but smoke respect for you. You're also. Earliest morning got up. And I was looking on Google and believe me, who you had had a scuffle with a very Trammell. Yeah. Berries of big sports writer out, in Oklahoma and talk show. And you had told him that you didn't think that Jalen hurts with a long shot for Heisman. And I wanted I wanted to touch on that one. I'm sooner fan. So, and I think that, that's a great blessing for him to come. No call. But let, let me ask you this. If this say Jalen had the greatest year of any college quarterback ever and a week before the announced the Heisman. Oklahoma's undefeated? Do you believe that the voters would hold it against him, simply because I did not want Oklahoma have three in a row. No. I don't. And listen. I, I, I look at it a couple of different ways number one, as a Heisman, voter of many years. And number two. And someone who talks to Heisman voters all the time. And, and it's June. We know that, but, but right now I would vote for him even on a close call. And I think most of my college, which people genuinely light Jalen hurts. And that that's not a reason to vote or not vote for someone for the Heisman Trophy. But I do think it gives them a leg up, and if it's a close call, then I think, I think he ties we'll go to him. I don't I don't look at it as a this is three in a row. This your freshmen voted for Johnny Manziel, it didn't faze me one iota that, that he was a freshman. The one, the one that I think has been interesting is, is, is Tibo trying to win it a second time or I think it was met line or a lot of people to this day regret that Archie Griffin one back to back Heisman trophies. But you know what? That's it's an. It's a it's an individual word based on that year not on your career. Yeah. I was gonna touch base on Archie Griffin thing. But and I, I was just a kid at the time. But, you know, even looking back I had no problem when twice. I think that's awesome. Again, I'm a sooner fan, but you know he was a. Buckeye? But I you know, the voters can d- fickle. So again, I wonder if they'd hold that against. Yeah. And I think. I think if, if Oklahoma's undefeated he's had a big year, I don't think it would be close. Now I think the more dangerous circumstances for him would be if it's really a muddled field, and you got Trevor Lawrence over here, and you have to and, and. Sam etlinger or someone else, but, but right now I mean, Jalen is, is one of the more positive stories in, in the sport. And I think that's that's really helpful. I don't I don't look at him as an Oklahoma quarterback an Oklahoma quarterback who's transferred. He's the most unique graduate transfer we've ever seen, and I think he is going to be the poster child for what the graduate transfer rule was supposed to be about. But don't when you say that do you believe was Kyle Murray? The transfer is will need just follow in his footsteps. Yeah. Cairo Murray was different for this reason. I mean you look at collar Murray more as. A guy who could have been playing baseball, but, but who stuck around and just emerged, and had the most amazing year ever maker Mayfield with somebody who earned it no doubt about that. But I just don't I don't I don't feel a Heisman carryover from year to year. I don't really think about what happened the previous year. I I've said this a million times, and I'll say it again. You talk about it every year all all year long. And then you come down to whatever day it is Saturday night, Sunday morning, when you when you send your ballot in, and that's all that matters is what's on my mind. That day, thank you. Very very much. Really, really interesting question. They're good to have you on. Let's check in with Chris in Alabama. Hey, Chris, go right ahead. Yangpu. Hey, they're as good to see married talk to you. It's been a minute, I've tried to get in your guys has been really good to me. Of course we've run out of time. Thank you. I'm glad you made it. Yeah. May tell you it's, it's almost like it's how throat but I tried to is. We really are excited about your show. It looks it's does really well that's getting hurt going to say this. I think as a class act, I'm an Auburn fan, but I will say this for they were lucky to have him on his team. There's no question that. But what I wanted to talk to you about first office the Auburn quarterback situation, which I'm sure you've heard a lot of what do you think about would or Meeks, you know, I don't I, I would just be throwing something up against the wall and hoping it sticks to try to tell you that I know more than anyone else. I don't. Yeah, I don't know much about Gatewood. I do know Knicks only because I, I covered his dad and know his dad, but. I think it's a good. I think it's a good problem for Gus malzahn to have. And I don't think it will be hard to figure that out. Once you get to Joe. August ecstatic about. Because this is the way I'd say he got somebody dad played there. That's the top person we need playing quarterback offer. We don't need this one one year transfer guy in there. You know, don't get me wrong. I like said them but it just finished off. You'd never really. I mean he had some good moments but overall it. It seemed like a waste of time. I agree. Yeah. Absolutely. And got one out on like for the gym from Tennessee LUSA. Yeah. I can comments about rednecks, this rednecks net. Well, I got news for mama redneck. You know, we, we prime houses on a construction company, my next radio, I worked for soon everyday, but for him to sit there and criticize people, and then he don't even know he might want to watch that mouth or bringing up here, down the Bama in north Alabama. Getting two five six ashville. Chris, I'm with you. I'm gonna pass that along the gym. Okay. Hey now, in, I'm sorry. You had to talk with somebody like that. But Warragul brother, you got the Jim has been promised a two five six that's area code in north Alabama. But I don't quit. Chris is big enough for a man enough to do it a little puck. He's a puck with a big mouth. And I didn't I. Yeah, that's rednecks on here. And he sounds like he has one too. So that's good. Chris expose yourself as thinking, redneck. People that aren't an honest living, Jim. No, I didn't say that. You know, I'm talking about the people who call it a Riddick that he heard me. Call are rednecks. That's what they are. And, and Chris said he was one and I agree with it. He's one two and I don't give a better watch the look. I don't wanna get into that, because that can that could be big time, heavy sip. So you better watch his thinking about, call caller about though, Paul. Can you know me they said, you, you had you go fat ugly. Keith freak trashing me about an hour ago. I didn't hear but, you know, Greg, his name Greg from Athens, sub your own, Greg, you'll Pat ugly. Nobody none non compelling any as you all. I like your show is now. Jim what kind of question is that? Kind that you always avoid. That's what you do in your, you never come on, never answering quest. You're the you're the guy that won't answer honest question when you shows on the rocks right now. Okay. What was the question again? How good you have bad. How competitive or noncompetitive he's like you show is now. Jim, I point you know, damn well, I can fuck his press that button. And with my booth in I can bring these show into something. Always have always will if I'm only here. That's what I got. That's my talent. That's my ability. You know, I got it. You're the one that wrote it in the book, but you get these damn oh, minnow here. Like Greg, calling me on old man, which is a stinking lie. And I'm just telling you fall for taffy. You say you not me for trying to help the show today with all with, with, with Nick and his wife that to me was pretty good stuff to get the people, you know, a down or the used to do some of that. And the shell was compelling in because you had people like me and Jane, and Bobby, who works his thing, Paul. You can't work well with somebody that you ain't got that ain't got no Bill and, you know, Greg ain't got the ability to work. Will you even even my enemy laugh and Shelby said, you and GM Paul are good together why you running him all? That's, that's that makes sense to me. Because you, you can't work. Well unless you've got somebody to work with. It's a team game Paul. And when you have these dumb ass and rednecks only show every day with a dullness DRAM nothing. Oh, excitement. No way. No energy. No compelling. This, no snipe is exactly no nothing exciting ball. And you go work with him. So you just sit down and take their questions and go the hell out of a and more, the hell out of us, and I still have a what occasionally listen to clap. I and I'll be honest. We all as God in heaven out of trying to help your show and you the other day with just so stupid. You can't you ain't got the scientist the understand what was going on. Well, clearly and everything I say as I usually do you know that? Well, I do appreciate you trying to help us out. Well, I'm not now but I was of a day when you criticise me with Greg, and his wife, though. She's like I think is why probably got a kick out of that. And I think other women got a kick out of that. I think you're right. A lot of tweets complementing the whole situation. Yeah. I mean you know what it wasn't destroying? Somebody like I put you on because that's all I thought it was going to be a good segment. That was my instinct when it wasn't a bad segment fall. No, no. Listen to compared to some of the stuff. You're right. It was, I was intere- -taining that's the whole point. And you tell Greg, they say you told Greg. Yeah, that was the worst columnist for the show. Well, sometimes kid. Sometimes you, you, you, you are familiar with with hyperbole. Are you not gone from me with lies? Oh, very much. So live. I mean that was a line. You know, why don't you minute, Paul? And by the way, like I said, you need help you, you need all the legends Daryl's and jams and you don't need the Greg's and. Is your best? I mean when you need help, what, what does that mean? That means show is teetering. No, I asked catering hall. It's just bad go. And until you get somebody like Lee or Shane lazy. I wish it could be paying. We saw that. Or even Darryl. Is it gets? Excitement going. He gets energy gets the blood going Paul. I get the bug going. You, jim. You know, I appreciate that. That's why I mentioned you on page, fifty four of the New York Times bestselling book, you just Mitch and you told the truth, lie, you told me many times before that you told me chain till you many times, we'll when I I'm not here to brag, but you do need somebody to work with in a call again. We keep you tell me we have to go to a break, and take you to get back this noise, she four and a half. We got back Danny brands in the studio. I'm just sitting back enjoying this. Jim continue on no break. Nece going. Timberlake. They were making funny, Jim. Hey, what we're up against a break, whether we need whether or not, we are going to one more of your phone calls, and we'll try to get the show back to where it used to be. We'll try to make this show great. Again after this. But pride passion than pageantry of college football leaves Keer, the Paul finebaum show, our three podcast, welcome back in jail, with let's continue trying to make this show, great again with Columbus Ohio, and talk to shop. What's off with Jeff? I hope you able to hear gyms call. I tell you what, you know what he even mentioned Conal Paul that sometimes of enemies, like Larry agree with one hundred percent and, you know, Jim and I have had our battles before. So we buy considering other enemy, but I agree with Jim one hundred percent. And he's set my call up perfectly first of all, I wanted to think Danny brands I don't know if he can get along. But I wanna thank him for last week. I saw somewhere. He took me as a third pick in the long. Voyage in six overall. Jan? Yeah. I appreciate that data and you can face Glock up a tree and round three because I noticed I was up against Paul pick boring. Greg from from Athens. Alabama ram grail man at guidance, sir twenty years in a submarine. It's not like he was at say, give credit for service with the guys founded society, his, Leslie paint dry. Come on now. Would you like to be a how would you like to be twenty thousand leagues under the safer twenty years? I honestly couldn't do it, but it might have affected humor up. I appreciate a service. But I think in affected as humor and Tim spot on, I may talk about it non compelling. Non poignant caller. I mean that's the definition. Okay. Anyone else that you don't like. No, I just wouldn't let Danny pre-empts that we have great draft head to head. And I bought storm, Greg in the coal head to head if we had to go that route. But that's not even why called I just wanted to give him props for this for further analysis. I think he was spot on. And we've got Jim. Eight drafting her. Hey Paul horrible dot going to take up your real after they met now. He runs faster be. They talk about it. He was era the player running around making, you know, bets or whatever you know claims about games and stuff. He's Mr. run his mouth. But as soon as somebody stands up to him the guy. Never accept the challenge. I mean when he accept the challenge, he's been of Michigan. I mean he couldn't stand up to it was a it was a friendly. I mean you see these bets all the time and this was not like it to stand on your head or anything. It was just a fun bed. By the way, I'm the one who is going to have to go to Ann Arbor, Michigan. If you didn't have to show up there, will you please stop and Columbus, Mike activities, the pieces of information, and maybe some highest state here. You can leave on campus up there. That'd be nice. I mean I could give you a little Buckeye to take up there. Give Jimmy and see what he wants. A lot but he listened you've got ninety minutes. Don't want to write him off yet. It could be busy right now doing whatever Jim Harbaugh died, June. And I gotta be worn about this college World Series. I mean, we're not like the SEC fan base is run sit up here chant, big ten Michigan win. Hello. What Michigan win anything? I mean. So we're a little different in that regard. But I will have to MIT. I'm a little side of they got into the finals. 'cause I'm so tired of the boring argument that northern schools and the schools Cantu. It's a good story, too. I did for Michigan throughout this playoff. Yeah. But don't you agree it gets? I mean, I think a lot of coaches in the big ten and the door the schools, they use it almost as a crutch and their goal is only to win their conference type ships and like warm weather sports baseball softball tennis. Whatever I mean but if you get the right coach in there, you can win at any. Sport in any location. I mean that's been proven time-to-time again with the right coach. I mean Michigan's one national titles on the four and baseball. I think they won softball. You know if if it's about getting the right coach in there that's grasses, and that wants to win national titles and not conference title. That's the one thing that does sometimes, and I think that's what urban brought to the to the big ten don't you agree? Totally completely agree. Listen, great stuff. Do you have as always, we'll talk to you soon, which check in next with? I'm anne. And a good afternoon. Paul finebaum good every station with Jeff there. Let's back up for a second. I e ESPN partnered with the SEC network, and therefore the SEC network has all the teams all the games and have your program and Peter burns and Dr Nokia and couple of guys. And as far as programs go, but in meat kind of looking at this, I don't think your numbers, really matter. Well, listen. I they don't. And I don't mean that in a in a way any way other than we are a standalone product here. Exactly. And angry and you're the best standalone product that they've got outside of a few games a year in the different sports. Well, I mean that was listen, you, you, you know, more than anyone because you were there at the beginning about the hiring of, of this program, and why was put on. On. And there were a lot of skeptics, you know, with less skeptics around, where I was where I was didn't think it would work, and I had my doubts for quite frankly, but it, it's worth because it's a it is a community that represents what this network is supposed to, to stand for. And that's a collection of fan bases from various places me. Because it was easier to hire you than it was to compete against you. You were the voice of the south and you've who was a perfect fit and ESPN hit home. Run by partner in with SEC and from my understanding this, he's seeing that work is doing better than all the other networks. They've partnered with right. But the SEC the SEC network have been unbelievable success. I mean and so. And so when somebody comes on here and says they're trying to save your show and save your numbers, what kind of idiot moron would that person be? Because your numbers don't matter you track the best program on on the network. They hired you for raising they would have to compete against you and they hit it out of the ballpark. Well, yeah, you're right. I if this program if we weren't here, somebody else would be, and we would still be doing what we were doing be doing what you were doing, and you would still be successful. Yeah. I mean and by now. We probably would have had a television component. I don't think there's any question about that. There's too many television networks out there with with nothing on in the afternoon, and they and there's a lot of people that have disappeared in the last ten years to, to maybe a second tier whereas you have advanced to the top tier and you are all over ESPN. You are all oversee the various networks. So nobody is coming in here. Worrying about your numbers, and if they are to you, I guess, to make them to make this simple for the rest of the audience, I'm calling Jim and dumb ass as. Yeah. I just wanted to make sure I think you and our own same page in it. Eight fifty four have a great day. I'm in coming in. We'll take a break. Yeah. We still have guests coming up here. I think what, what's our next subject? Jeff fours L talking about conference realignment later on about an hour from now. We'll talk about the Auburn conundrum with Brandon Marcello that's at six thirty. Jeff is coming up right after this. Tried passion, and pageantry of college football leaves here. The Paul finebaum show, our three podcast guys, we end up villa joins me if we've been talking about this news over the weekend about realignment, we have had so little on that subject that I think a lot of people have jumped up and down and trying to and try to figure out what it meant you. Thank you very much for the time. You you've been hard work at this for a couple of days. Can you help us understand? First of all, what's going on here? And then why? Well, I mean right now it seems like we're on track for an announcement an official announcement later this week. The board of trustees at uconn are vote Wednesday the biggest presence reportedly approve yukons invitation to join the league today. And so if there's an expectation there's going to be some sort of official nounce than later this week. There is the question of ten million dollars exit fee, but you can't hoping to negotiate that down because if not in the bylaws technically they would act to stay for they would have to give twenty seven months notice, which would not allow them to join in time for the twenty twenty season. But it seems like there's optimism that that's going to be worked out too. There could be announced later this week. So what led to this moment? I think that you kind of wanted to get back to the I think they got lost in the stuff a little bit during realignment a few years ago. They went big on football, and it didn't work out. I mean, there's just it's hard for a program in the northeast to really get a foothold in college football, especially when they became a full-time SVS program in two thousand two so it's not like there's been a ton of tradition at the division one level. And so you can find that with they haven't been good in, in, I think, seven or eight years now they lost some of their regional rivals. I mean back when they used for football they can count on playing Pittsburgh and Rutgers and Syracuse those have been replaced by south Florida East Carolina SMU. So I just think that the regional aspect of it has gone. And at the end of the day, this is the basketball school in men's basketball, women's basketball, men's women's basketball program in the country, men's basketball. It was one of the best programs under Jim Calhoun. And I think going back to the big east to play against Saint John villanovan teams like that, again, I just think that bring. Back some of the sort of what built up you thought of Korean back in the nineties. And if it goes through Yukon is gone army has been mentioned as a possible replacement is that accurate and who else? Yeah. I think that, that army is a logical option. And if you don't go with one of those, it was you don't go with arm. You can look at Charlotte, or Georgia state, North, Texas, Louisiana, tech, I just think those, those types of schools, at least would be the most most legitimate options just I it sort of fits with what the footprint of the league is so far in terms of, you know, he's either and up and coming program. It's, you know, recruiting hotbed type places that have it with the league's, some media markets, so they can build on, like a Charlotte. And so I just think those types of schools would fit with what they had. Now, I've see army would match the with mesh navy in the league and give him a logical travel partner and rival beyond this, and Jeff you're on the front line. All those of us few rose removed or trying to figure out, what is it? Mean so does it say anything about today's world of intercollegiate athletics? And if so what? I mean I, I don't know if this is going to suddenly bring bring on a another. I guess stretch of realignment talks like we had several years ago where, you know, there was a ton of reliant was with schools, moving conferences, every few months team. I don't know if we're going to bring about that. I do think that, you know. I don't know if this is specific to calm, but I think it, you know, sticking to what built up the program is in some cases, I think, that's what's most important in schools for, and you kind of like I said, it's a basketball school, and they tried going big and football, and it's just not working, and I think that they've realized that I think that, like, I think they got lost in the shuffle a little bit during reliant. I think their basketball program took a hit prestige wise, women's basketball, they, they got some seedings in the NCAA tournament that they thought were, it was a little low men's basketball has fallen back and whether that was just natural because they won four titles in twenty years. That's not going to happen, regardless of what the there in. So I think that was part of it. But I do think that they realize, hey, football going big in football, these fourteen and conferences, to, you know, help build the football program is not the way to go. And I think that the fan base is it's the best ball fan base. And I think the fans want to play, you know. Villanovan providence teams like that, as opposed to playing south Florida. And he's Carolina. Jeff many. Thanks for it. Look forward to following this story closely. Thank you. You gotta Jeff wears L from ESPN. Let's grab Ron here in Texas of next. Ron you're on the air. Go right ahead. Oh, hey. They're good afternoon. Did afternoon. Thanks for taking my call for ball. Thanks to Danny Bram for his list. He is an kind music person. He he's pretty short. Does he know? No sympathy from the devil. Who's? Album that is on. What's the name of the album is Dave Ramsey? You know, the answer to that, that beggars banquet. It is back with dad. Well, I tell you what you restore my fate. I Fe I could have been here for the next hundred years. And I wouldn't have gotten that question, right? Well, second of all. It's seventy degrees in central Texas today. And I know both you and Danny had been in Texas in June. How are you? What jill's me worse than that is the fact. That the California legislature. Could have an effect. On the college football championship. They ruined their state. They're beginning to ruin my state. What do you think about that? Well, we had a conversation about earlier, I'm still not sure. If this is going to trickle down. I understand with the NCW is thinking. I, I don't understand the California. Legislator. I do understand the issue though. And I don't think it's, it's really that simple. I happened to be in favor of athletes being able to capitalize over off of their lightness. I have no problem with that. But, but I do have a problem, and I'm like, I know you do when, when, when, when state state legislatures getting involved in things of which they know nothing about this is one of them. It's a big deal. You know, a great deal I thank you very much for the call. We are heading to a break. More more, guess Brandon Marcello in about forty five minutes on what the ouster of Steve leaf president of Auburn means to Gus malzahn that is in our final thirty minutes tonight. More of your phone calls coming up next. The fried passion. Then patron tree of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show. Our three podcast over by glad you are with us and checkout. Dan, in larva here on a Monday afternoon. Dan? Hey, how are you? Oh, we're doing well. Thank you. Good. I just been listening in on just a person that worked from university of Michigan for fifteen years. I don't know about her body. I don't know what he the he's got going for him. But I don't think he's going to answer you what we never mind. We were just having some fun. We thought if the guy had a sense of humor, which we knew he, doesn't if he had any ability to have fun which we know he never shown that he would he would call us. But. It's not a big deal. We're just celebrate my gut Andrew belt playing against Michigan. And I think Michigan is a great team. I'm not who am I talking to who would you like to talk to Dan, boy, just well doesn't matter? I talked to find on, but I don't need to. I've been listening for years, or whatever it is. Yeah. Well, anyway, my your tone. Well, hold on. You're talking to Paul finebaum. Oh am. Yeah. That's usually the way it works here. When you call the final show you talk to the fish, and I I'm I ever called in and I, you know, I listened. I got I I'm seventy nine years old, and I get home. I still were young, by the way. Yeah. Yang. And so I try to get on with five three o'clock. So I could see far shape that, well, I'm glad you got in. I was just kidding. You about who you were talking to. But let me see it anyway. 'cause you don't sound like Paul. But anyway, Mike, my thing would sweet. Impostures here's we here's my proposal. Okay. Because I am retired somewhat. But I still work. I would an probably not enough, but I would say if crawl would we're Michigan's shirt. During his program after that we'll series is over maybe gonna win. And if they lose 'cause I like, I, I like Vanderbilt, a lot, one of my best friends has passed away with a very big band villes supporter in all of Justice kids played for Bill. I give dollars advantage athletic club. Didn't they won so that, Dan? That's nice of you about by the way, I ball in tier to go up to Michigan. And where sure jersey, so I, I all he had to do is accept it and say you're on. There's no, we made it pretty pretty simple for him. But again, I'm. It was a friendly bet. We thought we would make I usually would lead usually when somebody if he had challenged us, we would have gladly accepted. This is not I'm not I'm not asking to meet Jim Harbaugh did dual by the Hudson river. I mean this is just a, a friendly conversation. Eight thank you, Dan. Appreciate you calling. I really wasn't nicer. The Bryant is in Nashville, you're next. April. How's it going today? It is going great. Thank you. I'm enjoying the conversation about Harbaugh that being. I'm Vanderbilt alum. This I'm, I'm really enjoying the conversation about fall about far of all their I thank you, for, unfortunately. I don't think he's going to call in, but I was one of the call it in about a week ago about the kidney. Oh, yeah. Thank you. I think we should try to get into any after maybe even go for trying to be a living donor. Maybe maybe that, that they could at the end that were you may. He might he might accept because that involves pain and listen, I, I would never ask. We have an hour in. I think it pretty much has to be done before the game starts tonight. Otherwise, it's but, but if he wants to wait, that's fine. By the way. How are you doing? Doing really, well, I've actually talked to talk to one of your callers a couple of times leeann of Indiana, and he has started the process of Vanderbilt. So, so I had to call in guest in regards to her about possibly doing that as well for possibly local Michigan resident or something. That is good news to here. We're, we're certainly pulling for you. And we obviously want to keep in keep in touch. I did have one other question regards the World Series. Did you happen to say the game on Friday night little versus Vanderbilt? Yes. Is there anything else in the media in regards to the pitcher kinda mouthing at the camera and the eighth inning towards the Vancouver player? Yeah. There was a lot. But, hey, that would have been mean, certainly the guy was pitching the, the game of his career until he opened his mouth. And he may never get his foot out. Yeah, that's, that's what came out the next day that he maybe spoke a little bit to sin. And then Vandenbroucke kind of tied up the score on him. So I'm just curious anything. No, I'm glad you called Ryan and a lot was made out of it. But I it's, it's dissipated since they are long gone. Frank is in Chattanooga. You're on the air. You're next up. Hey, Mr. finebaum. Frank die from the unruly dies in Georgia. I hear you. Question. I'm change it. I want to talk about JJ holliman in Georgia. Let's limit has kid this, because I've been watching the show, wandering coach horrible recruit right now, instead of watch the finebaum show. I think he is recruiting. I mean I'm I I mean they're getting commitments as we speak. This is a big recruiting time as you probably know we'll, yes, sir. Yes, sir. But I, I just kind of find it funny that he's wasting his effort on a tweet with Mr. finebaum would save in data in curvy or probably in jets, and helicopters. Well, listen. I you're forcing me to defend Harbaugh I probably will say he's out there recruiting as we speak. But when one thing about recruiting you're never that far from your phone. There. You go. Okay. Okay. Good friend of mine, high school and collar. Edge with Alabama player missing John clay that, you know. I called him on the phone shocked about JJ Solomon. And I'm glad he's gone. You hit a girl you're gone. I'm not defending hill, but that happened in like your earlier caller tag. I agree. I this happened at the top of every hour, but we get we run right into the top of the.

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The Tie that Wasn't

"Hello this is. ESPN senior writer. Ivan mizzle today Wednesday November. Six is the One hundred fiftieth anniversary of the first first college. Football game ever rutgers beat Princeton Sixty four and trust me pretty much. Nothing that happened that day looks like today's game except the rutgers players wore scarlet as part of ESPN's coverage of the One hundred fiftieth anniversary of college football. We're proud to bring you the down and distance podcast. Yes with eight stories illustrating how college football has impacted and reflected American culture over the course of one hundred fifty years. Here's an episode from the series. And we encourage you to listen and subscribe the down and distance wherever you get your podcasts. Over the course of one hundred fifty years of college football. No pair of head coaches are joined together. Quite like Woody Hayes Bo Shen Boeckler. It is impossible to think. Think of one without the other for exactly a decade. They faced one another in one of the Games. Great rivalries as it Ohio State Sham Boeckler at at Michigan their games were so closely fought so fraught with local tension and national import that they are known collectively as the ten year. Your war from nineteen sixty nine through nineteen seventy eight. Ohio state and Michigan played every year with a share of the big ten Conference Title L. At stake for at least one of them every year. The stories of the ten year war are told and retold in the lower of the two programs handed handed down from generation to generation for shock. There was nineteen. sixty-nine when Chen Boeckler and his first Michigan team had to play number one Ohio state date which at one twenty two straight games. The buckeyes needed only to beat the wolverines to claim a second consecutive national championship instead. Chen Boeckler led Michigan to a twenty-four twelve. Upset and woody never forgave bow for that one for controversy. There was one thousand nine hundred seventy one when the decision in by officials not to call pass interference on a game sealing interception by Michigan sent Hayes into one of his most infamous sideline tantrums. But if you want shock and controversy not to mention political intrigue outrage lasting acrimony and dissatisfaction and so large that college football changed its entire postseason than pull up a chair in Nineteen seventy-three Ohio State and Michigan played into a ten ten. Finish a tie in name. Only who won the tie who lost it depended on Wednesday you asked welcome to down and distance a podcast about the history of college football part of ESPN's college football one fifty commemorating getting the One Hundred Fiftieth Anniversary of sport. I'm your host Ivan Mozelle. Today's show the tie that wasn't will tell the story of the one game. In and the ten year war that embodied everything mythic about the greatest period in the history of one of the Games. 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B. to get fifty dollars off your first job. Post host terms and conditions apply. I have a story to tell you a small interaction that has stuck with me for more than a decade. The tell you the truth truth. It's really the reason. I chose the subject for down in distance. It was a chilly gray. November Monday Ann Arbor in two thousand six in five days number two Michigan would travel three hours south. The play number one Ohio state. This rivalry is always played at a fever. Pitch which but this particular year the fever bordered on delirium archrivals had been ranked one and two for five weeks the build up the game had been incessant unrelenting always with an air of inevitability and now game. We arrived this game was so so big that the coaches Monday press conference was felt like a playoff event. Michigan put on a show. They had the usual suspects head coach. Lloyd Loyd car spoke in several players spoke but the most captivating wolverine was a seventy seven year old man three weeks removed from having a defibrillator later implanted in his chest Ocean Boeckler no longer radiated energy and combust ability the way he did when he prowled. The Michigan sideline as a young head head coach. He walked slowly. Age had rounded his sharp edges. He no longer hid has affinity for people behind a gruff exterior. Don't get me wrong. Both still had his growl in. His blue is still blazed with the competitive fire. That one hundred and thirty four games with the Wolverines for the most part Bo resembled a softened kindly old coach until one subject came up the end of the nineteen seventy-three season When undefeated number four Michigan played undefeated number one Ohio state to a ten ten tie and did not get the big ten rose bowl bid on this chilly gray November Monday in two thousand six ocean Boeckler had four days left on this earth? He died that Friday morning the day before. The Ohio State Michigan game but on that Monday when I saw him is inner fire still roared word at least on the subject of nineteen seventy-three. I asked Bo a straight question about that game assuming that maybe the passage of more than three decades seconds in the perspective of an elderly man might have cooled his anger. nope not a chance. They literally screwed us out of the Rosebowl and I mean it just exactly the way I set it. As if anyone within earshot could doubting Schimdt Boeckler called it the greatest disappointment point of his four decades in coaching a decision that went against him. Because of as Bo put it political bullshit in nineteen seventy three was year five of the ten year war archrivals had split the first four games and in doing so had made the renewal all of the rivalry and national holiday on the college football. Calendar the Games then and now felt less like football games than epic contest. We'll and brute force Archie Griffin one two heisman trophies at Ohio state. He started at tailback for the Buckeyes and four games during the ten year war. Four years later he looked back on his career and said I can think of at least three of those games. If we had to play the next week I probably wouldn't have been able able to play the hitting was just that hard. That was the football that Woody Hayes. Griffin's head coach believed in Hayes coined the phrase. It's three yards and a cloud of dust. He saw football as a measure of strength determination of who was the better man. Forget deception trickery. Sorry Hayes remained skeptical of the forward. Pass this playbook was more like a pamphlet. He didn't care whether the defense knew what play was coming as believe leave that his players were bigger stronger and ran the play to perfection. The defense couldn't stop them anyway. Hayes was a conservative on the football field. Actually he was a conservative off the football field he counted among his friends the incumbent President Richard Nixon. Who No kidding tried to the interest as and becoming head of the Peace Corps? Woody Hayes coach assaulted a news photographer. One year at the Rose Bowl. Who and fury destroyed a down marker head of the Peace Corps? You can't make that up Poche or may not have been quite as volcanic as Hayes but his lava ran hot to jam. Boeckler also worshipped in the church of three yards and a cloud of dust. That's because Bowe had been raised in college football off by. Woody began his head coach and player at Miami of Ohio regime. boeckler played on the line for Hayes Redskins that was Miami's nickname nickname. Those insensitive times. They continued together for more than a decade. His head coach and assistant at Ohio state until nineteen sixty three. When Kim Boeckler left to return to Miami as head coach five years later Ohio State won the nineteen sixty eight national championship ending? It's regular season with a fifty two fourteen rout of the archrival. That Hayes detested the Michigan Wolverines late in the game. The buckeyes scored a touchdown to take take a forty eight to fourteen lead with the game safely in hand Hayes rubbed Michigan's facing the loss instead of kicking the extra point. He kept his offense on the field to go for two points asked after the game. Why would he gave one of the most famous answers of his hall of fame career because they wouldn't let me go for three? That one thousand nine hundred sixty eight Buckeye team may have been the best ever to play in Columbus. That was no excuse. It Michigan Change needed to be made a few weeks later. Ocean Boeckler took over at Michigan a few months later after Bose Wolverine Stage that nineteen sixty nine upset. The number one. Buck is a team that would he thought was the best ever to play in Columbus the tenure warhead. It's Fort Sumter everything. Woody and Bo did three hundred sixty five days. A year pointed toward beating the other one on a Saturday in late November. Cornelius Green played quarterback for Ohio state in the Mid Nineteen Seventies. His teammates called him corny years after his career. pointy green told an interviewer. There's nothing like a Michigan game. We practice for Michigan spraying the summer. The fall I remember. We Played Indiana one year and we practiced for Michigan on Monday Tuesday and Wednesday. We practiced for Indiana on Thursday and Friday Green was a sophomore in nineteen. Seventy three the year of the tie. That wasn't so as Michigan's quarterback Dennis Franklin light green a slick runner but also a more accomplished passer. Franklin light green embrace the pressures and expectations that came with such such a high profile job and there were a lot of both in nineteen. Seventy three it would be the fourth consecutive season that Michigan came into its season ending game against against Ohio state with an undefeated record. Add to that the fact that Schimdt Boeckler in five years at Michigan at a record of Seventeen in Oh in big ten games at the big house better known as Michigan Stadium and one more thing. The home team had won the last six games in this rivalry all the data pointed to the wolverines yet. They were three and a half point. Underdogs to the Buckeyes undefeated Ohio Estate Number One Ohio State and Ohio state that had been groundbreaking if not ground shaking in. Its first nine games after a state opened the season with fifty six seven victory over Minnesota gophers coach cal. stoll said of the Buckeyes. They're no longer three the yards and a cloud of dust. Now they're twelve yards in a massive humanity. Ohio state had won every game by at least twenty four points Michigan in one all of its games at least fourteen points for the defense so good that it wants went fifteen consecutive quarters without allowing a point the winner would go to the Rose Bowl per usual but this season two winner would rake in more chips from the pot. A victory would provide the inside track in an unusually crowded routed national championship race. Ohio State Notre Dame Alabama in Michigan. All entered Thanksgiving weekend with an unblemished record. Oklahoma Oklahoma was unbeaten with a tie in that pack. A victory over. An unbeaten top four team would provide separation going into the bowls. What no one knew is game? We dawned is that state had a problem. Specifically Sophomore quarterback Corny Green had a problem yet chipped the bone in the farm on his throwing hand which had swelled somewhere south of melon but somewhere north of where he could grip the ball. Well enough the throat. You didn't even practice the first two days of the week. Would he said something. The buckeye writers on Monday about green having a knee the injury it really was his thumb. And you really did have trouble gripping the ball well enough to throw it not that green through a lot barely even through a little eleven games that season green through forty six passes but his inability to throw would come into play on that Saturday Eh. You know who works hard rookies. Sure they make mistakes but no one's got more to prove knowing knowing each day is another opportunity to outworked them all and earned the respect. They deserve that's why after one hundred thirty years car heart's still approaches each day with the Passion Ashen and work ethic of a company. That's one hundred thirty years young. Same hunger same determination. Same giant chip on the shoulder and in the same way Rookie needs to work. Hard to earn the respect of their peers. Everything car heart makes has to keep earning the respect of the hardworking people who wear it. That's why car heart still l.. Works like a rookie. And why Carl Hart will keep working them all for the next one hundred thirty years to visit car heart dot com forward slash. CFP to learn learn more and shop. This season's hardest working gear Game Day dawn with a chilly rain. The Faucet turned off by game. Tom Tom but it was cold. It was raw. It was just what we've come to expect when Ohio state plays Michigan. What we didn't expect was what Ohio state did when it ran out of the tunnel onto the field at Michigan Stadium? The buckeyes ran directly toward the famous M. Club banner the one that the wolverines sprint under when they take take the field in the Buckeyes tore the banner down a defiant gesture on the opponent's home field is if this game needed tone to be set became clear in the first quarter that this game would be different for both teams Ohio State. The twelve yards in a mass S. of humanity. Ohio state didn't make a first down on. Its first three possessions. Michigan wasn't making any progress either but then on the first play of the second. Quarter the Buckeyes beginning to make things happen Archie Griffin broker on for thirty eight yards. I freshman fullback Pete Johnson a nineteen year old two hundred and forty seven pound pile. Mover punished Michigan inside. State kicked a field goal in the final minute of the half scored a touchdown. They play grown-up our guys. The officials had not put up there. Are you the Buckeyes. Punched down. Says the lights. Archie ran five times for forty one yards on that drive. The buckeyes led ten to nothing at half time setting the stage take advantage of Michigan in defence that in the second half Shirley would put more people at the line of scrimmage to stop the Ohio state running game and in the chess match of Football Ohio state state would respond by throwing over. That's how football strategy works. That's not how Woody Hayes worked as we have seen by the stats. That would he didn't have much use for the past is team had gotten attended nothing lead by running the ball and that by God was that after all is quarterback had a bad throwing hand. So Hayes kept running. Archie Griffin between the tackles Michigan. Put men on the line of Scrimmage Michigan. Put nine nine men. On the line of Scrimmage Ocean Boecklin knew how his mentor thought. He knew what he wouldn't throw the ball and he was right. The Ohio state they play caller and the press box would call a pass. Woody listening on the headphones scream obscenities. Archie would run the ball into the line again allows state running back coach. Ed Furka me said after the game no matter how good you are. You can't beat a good team not varying your attack. We played it to Dan Conservative in his book. Buckeye a study of Hayes during that nineteen seventy three season author Robert VIR quoted in Ohio State Offensive Lineman on his head coach. Woody choked on us. He got so tidy. Wouldn't let us play our game. We blew him out that second quarter with Johnson in there. So what would he do. He takes pete out in the third quarter. Why because pizza? Freshmen in a freshman might make a mistake and freshman had been eligible to play college football for only three years. As we have established as didn't like change yen quite I bought into freshman year before the inserted Freshman Archie Griffin into the opening game and sure enough Griffin fumbled. Is I carry woody. What he didn't put him back into the game? Archie believed the first carry of his Ohio. State career might have been his last the next week Hayes did give him another chance Griffin rush for two hundred thirty nine yards a school record. That was the second game of the season. This was Michigan with everything riding on it another player told there we could have scored on them easy. If we'd thrown the ball or mixed it up a little would he not only has to beat a team gene yesterday. Beat them down yesterday. Brutalized the other team. That's what he thinks. Football is all about it. Wounds Pride to pass its admitting weakness and what might would have done. What his former apprentice Bo did he took advantage of a defense set up for the run with the score? tend tend to three in the fourth quarter. The wolverines had a fourth and one at the Buckeye ten yard line Dennis. Franklin the quarterback faked a handoff into the line put the ball on his hip hip and went around the end into the end zone. Untouched workout. This scoreboard Said said the game was tied but the momentum all tilted to the home team the big house was roaring. How would you like to tired like kissing your mother Matt on one play all the momentum stop the the seeds of a controversy that with invalid? This game we're planted Michigan offensive. Line blue an assignment. An Ohio State Defensive Lineman by by the name of Van Decree when unblock creed crashed into Franklin sack him and broke. Franklin's collarbone fare. Went to Michigan offense. The end of a game became an offensive comedy with one minute. One second to play the score is still tied. Woody bound to reality that he might need to complete some passes to win the game. He sent in his backup quarterback greg hair hair a better passer than corn green. Even when Greens hand wasn't swollen but hair had sat for fifty nine minutes. He went in cold in Michigan intercepted. His first attempt in Ohio. State Territory Michigan Kicker. Greg Landry's forty four yard game. Winning Field Goal Went Wide Ohio. Hi State tried. Three more. Desperation passes in the game. Didn't so much end as Peter out this nineteen seventy-three twenty-three years before or the institution of Overtime Final Score Michigan Ten Ohio State. Ten consensus feeling on both sides on both sides was that Michigan. We get the Rosebowl bed after the game. When he hayes is face fallen his hand trembling said? We knew we had to win to go in. We didn't the loss was in Ohio. State tragedy a number one team shoved aside because of the coaches unwillingness to trust his coaches and players know bowl game. No chance to win the national title and then one day later. The tragedy switch sidelines every college football season. It takes a lot of effort to get each team properly equipped and ready to hit the field as efficient playing machine gene. Same for Your Business. For more than ninety years. CINTAS has worked to help businesses big and small more professional and run more smoothly and efficiently. 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That would take hold of the big ten was a self inflicted wound for one thing unlike the SEC the and the Southwest Conference in the ACC in the big eight the big ten allowed only one team to play in a bowl game. It's not as if the rosebowl needed the protection. I mean it's the Rose Bowl but that was the rule in big ten coaches not named woody and Bo we're sick and tired of it. Illinois coach coach Bob Blackman heard about it when he recruited against schools and other conferences in nineteen seventy three six teams from the SEC. In three from the big eight went to ball games. If a kid goes to big eight school Blackman told sports illustrated. He has a fifty fifty chance of going to a big bowl in the big ten years. A ten percent chance but in one thousand nine hundred seventy three the decision to break a tie was totally. In the hands of the League's ten athletic directors rush. They would vote and their decision would stand here again. Michigan seemed to have an edge. Five of the ten days at played at Michigan. Ohio state had gone the year before. I know that wasn't a rule any longer. But that's how people thought those are commonsense incense reasons but in this story this is roughly where common sense went on Sabbatical Branston common sense would dictate that someone either. Big Ten commissioner Wayne Duke or one of the eight voting athletic directors. Who didn't have a dog in the hunt would've called Michigan to inquire to the condition of Dennis Franklin in his broken collar bone on in our modern age when news travels at four G. Speed and the media thinks in terms of right now instead of the next morning's paper sportscenter would've I've had hourly updates but in one thousand nine hundred seventy three? No one called. Well do call the Michigan Stadium. Press box when he arrived the Detroit airport after the game Saturday night but no one ever talked to the Michigan trainer to find out if there was a chance that Franklin might be available for the Rose Bowl. Here's what the big ten athletic directors knew. They knew that the big ten it lost four rose bowls in a row. They knew they wanted in the street. And they I knew that Michigan might not have its quarterback and so on Sunday morning. They voted woody. Hayes awoke Sunday morning and the disappointment he felt the day before had not lifted. If anything you felt worse that morning the thirty-seven-year-old team aim trainer. Al Heart died after a long bout with cancer and would he face facts. He knew he wasn't beloved in the League. You never tried to be like never needed it. I thought he would say directors would vote for them in motion Boeckler. tackler coach of them of Michigan caught a ride with a sports information director on Sunday into Detroit record his TV show in those days is when teams were on TV. Only once or twice a year coaches had a weekly TV show in which they would show the coaches film discussed the Game Bowen has sid the chatted on the way in about the trip to California talked about making sure. The team enjoyed the trip about not working them. Too hard tar pulled into the parking lot at W. W. J. T. V. Pasol of writers and TV guys awaited them. Detroit News reporter approached. Bow and said. Did you hear the news what news. They voted Ohio state to go to the Rosebowl in his autobiography ghosted. By the Great Mitch. Mitch Albom both said. He stalked away from the media went into the TV studio and began kicking. Everything inside trash cans chairs. I have have never been so angry in my life. Winnie Hayes got a phone call. Tipping him off as to the result was sworn to secrecy so he called home home when his wife answered. It began humming California. Here we come o n tore up his concession speech. The final vote was six to four in favor of Ohio state. So who turned on Michigan. There were more suspects. I've been an Agatha Christie novel. Hathaway may have gone to Michigan but it was a good bet that none of them had much use for Don Canham the Michigan ad more to the point. He had little use for them. Most of that time were former players or coaches kicked upstairs when they got tired of coaching or when coaching got tired of them Canham was a promoter a businessman his first priority was to put butts in the big house seats. He thought like a salesman salesman he knew if he brought high school bands from all over the area to play at halftime. Then the parents would come and buy tickets. CANHAM thought progressively really thought like coaches Canham. Once called him a bunch of donkeys Wayne Duke. The Conference Commissioner never released the results of the vote. I WANNA count the envelope containing the votes was destroyed. Chen Boeckler told the Michigan Student newspaper newspaper Athletic Directors and Duke. were running scared after. Losing four straight rose bowls. They needed a win to help their prestige. Well the big ten has lost any prestige it ever had. I'm disillusioned with the administration of College. Football this is why kids are losing respect for America. Yeah he went there. Both sided with the pot-smoking longhaired Vietnam War protesting counterculture. Woody does mentor. Responded bows attitude. What he said was typical of today? Where every decision was questioned? The problem today is we don't accept decisions. I've always always accepted decisions. That would come as news to the big ten officiating. Crews but we digress. Sham Boeckler accused Duke of engineering. The vote in his book. Bo said he got see-saw Coleman of Illinois to change his vote and influence fluence. Some of the others. He'll tell you it's not true but it is and I will never forgive him. Coleman said he would have voted for Michigan and Franklin were healthy in that era before email. Bo got hundreds of letters. So did the big ten office at Sherman Covered College football for the Chicago Tribune for many years. He's just written an official history of the League in the book. Sherman quotes some of the letter sent to do a man in Chicago wrote since when is a whole team victimized because one player was injured another letter began dear little ten commissioner and my favorite written is the country was caught in the throes of political scandal in Washington. A new Watergate. It has arisen in a once proud and upright conference has sunk to new depths of mediocrity and immorality. That one was signed in the Lord's Service Service Always Robert F.. Pastor Trinity Evangelical Lutheran Church Hammond. Indiana Bo oh didn't stop attacking Wayne Duke. Not In the days following the decision. Not After the commissioner put the Michigan Coach Years Probation and not as we said at the top of the podcast thirty three years later. Four days before Schimdt Boeckler died in one sense athletic directors were right. They sent Ohio state to the rose. Bowl in the buckeyes broke that four game conference. Losing Streak Pummeling humbling. USC Forty Two to twenty one. If there was any consolation for Michigan any at all the Thai prevented Ohio state from winning the National Championship in a battle of unbeatens in the sugarbowl Notre Dame defeated Alabama twenty four to twenty three. The Irish were voted number one but in another sense the big ten athletic directors were wrong or at least. Their reason for rejecting Michigan was wrong on New Year's Day. A news photographer visited Franklin. The quarterback who's broken collarbone was supposed reason for not sending the wolverines West Franklin said he was paying free three to prove it as the photographer recorded it. Franklin threw a snowball judging by the actions of the conference Wayne Endure in the big ten athletic directors wanted no part of the spotlight that trained on them at the end of the nineteen seventy-three season. I nineteen seventy-five illeg had put into into new rules. One in case of a tie the Rose Bowl. Berth would be awarded to the team that gone the longest since its last trip to Pasadena and two more important. The League relaxed its restrictions against allowing only one team to play in a bowl that legacy is Bo Sham Bekker's gift gift the big ten into all of college football think of all the big schools in the big ten of all those big alumni bases who live in the Upper Midwest West where the holiday season is frigid. Think of all those snowbird alums who make their way to Florida into the desert. The bowl business. Sure thought of him. From eleven bowls in nineteen seventy four. The last year of champions only in the big ten the number of balls increased to fifteen in nineteen seventy eight double the twenty two by nineteen ninety eight and has almost doubled again in two thousand eighteen eight. Big Ten teams went to Ball Games. Of course there are now fourteen teams in the big ten. But that's a story for another podcast. Ohio state fired Woody Hayes in December nineteen seventy eight the day after the gator bowl when Hayes slugged Clinton linebacker who had the temerity to intercept the Buckeye Guy Pass. I don't know if it was a punch heard round the football world but it is the punch that ended the ten year war no offense to haze his successor. Earle Bruce or to any other coach in this rivalry. Just isn't a war without woody and Bo in those ten years Bo. One Five Games. What he won four and there was one time Hazen? Sham bealer renewed their friendship once they didn't coach against each other. Jim Boeckler even invited Hayes to speak to his Michigan team. Jim Bachelor's Autobiography Chapter Entitled Woody and Me Begins Ends. I loved what he has. I'm not ashamed to say it for down in distance. I'm Evan Mizzou down. In distance as part of ESPN's spins college football one fifty commemorating the one hundred fiftieth anniversary of the sport. If you like this episode please subscribe on Itunes or wherever are you. Get Your podcast down in distance is produced by Nina earnest. With help from Scott's Sabers Ryan Intel and Jodi arrogant our engineer is Josh macrey special. Thanks to Alexandria Cooper and gay by saying the executive producer of Espn College. Football one. Fifty is this John. Dall am Ivan Mazel on our next episode. I'll tell you the story of how college football and the deep South was integrated in the nineteen fifty-six sugar bolt and believe me you'll be surprised at

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The Tie that Wasn't

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The Tie that Wasn't

"Hey College football fans. This is Ivan is though I wanted to share with you an episode from my narrative podcasts down in distance which touches on some of the stories that have defined one hundred fifty years of college football. This one is about the fiercest battle in the ten year war between Woody Hayes is Ohio State Buckeyes and both Comeback Michigan wolverines over reigns the ten ten tie in nineteen seventy-three change the big ten and the bowl business forever the tie that wasn't hope you enjoy it you you can find the rest of the episodes wherever you download your podcast over the course of one hundred fifty years of college football no pair of head coaches are joined together are quite like Woody Hayes and Boashan Boeckler. It is impossible to think of one without the other for exactly a decade. Did they faced one another in one games great rivalries Hayes at Ohio State Shem Boeckler at Michigan. Their games were so closely fought fought so fraught with local tension and national import that they are known collectively as the ten year war from one thousand nine hundred sixty nine through nineteen eighteen seventy eight. Ohio state and Michigan played every year with a share of the big ten conference title at stake for at least one of them every year in the stories of the ten year war are told and retold in the lower of the two programs handed down from generation to generation for shock. There was one thousand nine hundred sixty nine when Chen Boeckler in his first Michigan team had to play number one. Ohio state which at one twenty two straight games the Buckeyes is needed only to beat the wolverines to claim a second consecutive national championship instead Jumba led Michigan to a twenty four to twelve upset and and woody never forgave bow for that one for controversy there was nineteen seventy one when the decision by officials not to call pass interference on a game sealing ealing interception by Michigan sent Hayes into one of his most infamous sideline tantrums but if you want shock and controversy varsity not to mention political intrigue outrage lasting acrimony and dissatisfaction so large that college football changed its entire post. Oh season then pull up a chair in one thousand nine hundred seventy three. Ohio State and Michigan played to attend ten finish a tie in name only who won the tie who lost it it depended on Wednesday you asked welcome to down in distance distance a podcast about the history of college football art of ESPN's College football one fifty commemorating the One hundred fiftieth anniversary of the sport. I'm your host Ivan Mozelle. Today's show the tie that wasn't we'll tell the story of the one game in the ten year war that embodied everything mythic about the greatest period in the history of one of the Games great rivalries building winning team is it's all about finding the right people for the job. That's why college coaches all over. The country spent so much time recruiting players they need on the field and when it comes to hiring for your business there's no better tool than Lincoln link. Dan provides a vast array of recommended job candidates. All in one Organiz place over six hundred million members birds visit linked in to make connections learn and grow as professionals and discover new job opportunities. That's how I make sure your job. Post gets in front of people with the right hard skills and soft skills to meet your row requirements. Things like collaboration work ethic adaptability. Lincoln does the Legwork to match you to the most qualified candidates so you can focus on hiring the person who will transform your business to get fifty dollars off your first job post go to Lincoln. Dot Com slash. CFP that's linked in dot com slash C. F. B. to get fifty dollars off your first job post terms and conditions apply. I have a story to tell you a small interaction that has stuck with me for more than a decade to tell you the truth. It's really the reason I chose this subject for down in distance. It was a chilly gray November Monday in Ann Arbor in two thousand six in five days number two Michigan would travel all three hours south the play number one Ohio state. This rivalry is always played at a fever pitch but this particular year the fever bordered ordered on delirium archrivals had been ranked one and two for five weeks the build up to the game had been incessant unrelenting always with of an air of inevitability and now game we had arrived. This game was so big that the coaches Monday press conferences felt like a playoff event. Michigan put on a show. They had the usual suspects head coach. Lloyd Carr spoke in several players spoke but the most captivating wolverine was a seventy seven year old man three weeks removed from having a defibrillator implanted in his chest. Sham Bachelor no longer radiated energy combustive -bility the way he did when he prowled the Michigan sideline as a young head coach he walked slowly aged surrounded his sharp edges. No longer hid has affinity for people behind gruff exterior. Don't get me wrong both still had his growl in his blue is still blazed with the competitive fire that one two hundred and thirty four games with the Wolverines for the most part Bo resembled a softened kindly kindly old coach until one subject came up the end of the nineteen seventy-three season when undefeated number four Michigan played undefeated number one Ohio state to a ten ten tie and did not get the big ten's rose bowl bid on this chilly gray November November Monday in two thousand six ocean Boeckler had four days left on this earth. He died that Friday morning the day before the Ohio State Michigan game but on that Monday when I saw him is inter fires still roared at least on the subject of nineteen seventy-three I asked Bo a straight question about that game assuming that maybe the passage of more than three decades in the perspective of an elderly man might have cool does anger nope not a chance they literally screwed us out of the Rose Bowl and I mean it just exactly the way I said it is if anyone within earshot could doubt him Schimdt Boeckler called it the greatest disappointment of his four decades and coaching a decision Asian that went against him because of as Bo put it political bullshit nineteen seventy-three was year five five of the ten year war archrivals had split the first four games in doing so had made the renewal of the rivalry and national holiday on the College Football Calendar Islander the Games then an now felt less like football games than epic contest of will and Brute Force Archie Griffin one onto heisman trophies at Ohio state. He started at tailback for the Buckeyes and four games. During the ten year war years later he looked back on his career career and said I can think of at least three of those games that if we had to play the next week I probably wouldn't have been able to play the hitting was just that hard. That was the football that Woody Hayes Griffin's head coach believed in Hayes coined the phrase three yards and a cloud of dust he saw football. Paul is a measure of strength determination of who was the better man forget deception and trickery. Hayes remained skeptical of the forward pass Doc. His playbook was more like a pamphlet. He didn't care whether the defense knew what was coming as believed that his players were bigger stronger and ran the play to perfection. The defense couldn't stop them anyway. Hayes was a conservative on the football field. Actually he was a conservative off the football field. He counted among his friends. The incumbent President Richard Nixon who no kidding tried to interest as and becoming head of the Peace Corps Woody Hayes as the coach who assaulted a news photographer one year at the Rose Bowl who and fury destroyed a down marker head of the Peace Corps. You can't make like VAT up potion. Boeckler may not have been quite as volcanic has hayes but his lava ran hot too. Chen the bachelor also worshipped in the Church of three yards and a cloud of dust. That's because Bowe had been raised in college football by woody. They began his head coach and player earlier at Miami of Ohio where Schindler played on the line for Hayes Redskins. That was Miami's nickname those insensitive times they continued and you're together for more than a decade is head coach and assistant at Ohio state until nineteen sixty three when left to return to Miami as head coach five years later. Ohio state won the nineteen sixty eight national championship ending its regular season with a fifty two fourteen rout of the archrival level that Hayes detested the Michigan Wolverines late in the game. The buckeyes scored a touchdown to take a forty eight fourteen lead with the game safely alien hand. Hayes rubbed Michigan's face in the loss instead of kicking the extra point. He kept his offense on the field to go for. Two points asked after have a game. Why would he gave one of the most famous answers of his hall of fame career because they wouldn't let me go for three that nineteen sixty eight. Buckeye team may have been the best ever to play in Columbus. That was no excuse it. Michigan change needed had to be made a few weeks later. Beauchemin Boeckler took over at Michigan a few months later after Bose Wolverine Stage that one thousand nine hundred sixty nine nine upset of the number one buckeyes a team that witty thought was the best ever to play in Columbus. The ten year war had its Fort Sumter. Everything Woody and bowed did three hundred sixty five days a year pointed toward beating the other one on a Saturday in late November. Cornelius Green played quarterback back for Ohio state in the Mid Nineteen Seventies. His teammates called him corny years after his career. pointy green told an interviewer. There's nothing like a Michigan game. We practice for Michigan in the spring. The summer the fall I remember we played Indiana one year and we practiced for Michigan on Monday. Tuesday and Wednesday we practiced for Indiana on Thursday and Friday a green was a sophomore in nineteen seventy three the year of the tie that wasn't so as Michigan's quarterback Dennis Franklin Light Green Slick runner but also more accomplished passer Franklin Light Green embraced the pressures and expectations that came with such a high profile job and there were a lot of both the nineteen seventy-three it would be the fourth consecutive season that Michigan came into its season ending game against Ohio state with an undefeated record add add to that the fact that Kim Boeckler in five years at Michigan at a record of Seventeen and oh in big ten games at the big house better known as Michigan Stadium mm-hmm and one more thing the home team had won the last six games in this rivalry all the data pointed to the wolverines yet they were three and a half point underdogs to the Buckeyes undefeated. Ohio State Number One Ohio state in Ohio state that had been groundbreaking if not ground shaking in its first nine games after Ohio state opened the season with a fifty six seven victory over Minnesota gophers coach Cal stoll said of the Buckeyes. They're no longer three yards in a cloud of dust now. They're twelve yards ars in mass of humanity. Ohio state had won every game by at least twenty four points Michigan won all of its games by at least fourteen points while the a defense so good that it wants went fifteen consecutive quarters without allowing a point the winner would go to the Rose Bowl per usual but this season the winner would rake in more chips from the pot. A victory would provide the inside track in an unusually crowded national championship race. Ohio state Notre Dame Alabama in Michigan all entered Thanksgiving weekend with an unblemished record. Oklahoma was unbeaten with a tie in that pack. Pick a victory over an unbeaten top. Four team would provide separation going into the bowls. What what no one knew is game week dawned is that Ohio state had a problem specifically sophomore quarterback corn green had a problem yet chipped the bone in the farm owners throwing hand which had swelled somewhere south of melon somewhere north of where he could grip the ball well enough the throat. You didn't even practice actress the first two days of the week would he said something to the buckeye writers on Monday about green having a knee injury it really really was his thumb and he really did have trouble gripping the ball well enough to throw it not that green through a lot barely even throw a little eleven games games that season green through forty six passes but his inability to throw would come into play on that Saturday. You know who works hard rookies sure they make mistakes but no one's got more to prove knowing each as another opportunity to outworked them all earned the respect they deserve. That's why after one hundred thirty years car heart still approaches each day with the passion and work ethic of a company that's one hundred thirty years young same hunger same determination same giant chip on the shoulder and in the same way a rookie needs to work hard earned the respect of their peers. Everything Carl Hart makes has to keep earning the respect of the hardworking people who wear it. That's why car heart still works like a rookie why Carl Hart will keep working them all for the next one hundred thirty years to visit car heart dot com forward slash. CFP to learn more and shop this season's hardest working gear Game Day dawn with a chilly rain. The Faucet turned off by game time but it was cold it was raw and it was was just what we've come to expect when Ohio State Place Michigan what we didn't expect was what Ohio state did when it ran out of the tunnel onto the field at Michigan stadium the Buckeyes ran directly toward the famous M. Club banner the one that the wolverines sprint under when they take the field in the Buckeyes tore the banner down on a defiant gesture on the opponent's home field as if this game needed a tone to be set became clear in the first quarter that this game would be different for both teams. Ohio state the twelve yards and a mass of humanity. Ohio state didn't make a first down on its first three possessions. Michigan wasn't making any progress either but then on the first play of the second quarter. The buckeyes began to make things things happen Archie Griffin broker on for thirty eight yards. I gotta by the Freshman fullback Pete Johnson in one thousand nine year old two hundred and forty seven pound pile mover punished Michigan inside state kicked a field goal in the final minute of the half scored a touchdown guys. The guys puch down says Archie ran five times for forty one yards on that drive the buckeyes led ten to nothing at halftime setting the stage to take advantage of a Michigan defense that in the second half surely would put more people people at the line of scrimmage to stop the Ohio state running game in chess match your football. Ohio state would respond by throwing over. That's how football strategy strategy works. That's not how Woody Hayes worked as we have seen by the stats would he didn't have much use for the pass is team had gotten a ten to nothing lead by running the ball and that by God was that after all this quarterback had a bad throwing hand so hayes kept running Archie Griffin between the tackles Michigan put eight men on the line of Scrimmage Michigan put nine men on the line of Scrimmage Ocean Mbeki knew how his mentor thought he knew what he wouldn't throw the ball and he was right. Ohio state play collar in the press box would call a pass woody. You're listening on the headphones would scream obscenities in archie would run the ball into the line again. Ohio state running back coach Ed Farkas said after the game and no matter how good you are. You can't beat a good team. Not varying your attack. We played it to Dan Conservative in his book. Buckeye a study study of Hayes during that nineteen seventy three season author Robert VIR quoted an Ohio State Offensive Lineman on his head coach woody choked on us. He got so tied. He wouldn't let us play our game. We blew him out that second quarter with Pete Johnson in there. So what is would he do. He takes pete out in the third quarter quarter. Why because pizza freshmen in a freshman might make a mistake freshman had been eligible to play college football for only three years as we have established woody. Hayes didn't like change yen quite bought into freshman year before the the inserted Freshman Archie Griffin into the opening game and sure enough. Griffin fumbled as I carry would. He didn't put him back into the game. Archie believed the first I carry of his Ohio state career might have been his last the next week. Hayes did give him another chance rippin rush for two hundred and thirty nine yards a school record. That was the second game of the season. This was Michigan with everything riding on it. Another player told there where we could have scored on them easy. If we'd thrown the ball or mixed it up a little woody not only has to beat a team yes to beat them down yesterday brutalize the the other team. That's what he thinks. Football is all about it wounds his pride to pass its admitting weakness. What might would he have done what his former apprentice. Bo Did he took advantage of a defense set up for the run with the score ten to three in the fourth quarter. The wolverines had a fourth and one at the Buckeye ten yard line. Franklin quarterback faked a handoff into the line put the ball on its hip and went around the end into the end zone untouched workout. This scoreboard said the game was time but the momentum had all tilted to the home team. The big house was roaring gamble. The Gopher two times like kissing in your mother-in-law main on one play all the momentum's stop in the seeds of controversy that with envelope this game were planted. Michigan Offensive Line Blue and assignment in Ohio State Defensive Lineman by the name of Van Decree went on block cre- he crashed into Franklin Sakhnin and broke Franklin's collarbone fare went the Michigan offense. The end of the game became an offensive comedy with one minute. One second to play in the score is still tied woody bound to reality -ality that he might need to complete some passes to win the game. He sent in his backup. quarterback greg hair a better passer than corny green. Even when Greenspan wasn't swollen but hair had sat for fifty nine minutes he went in cold in Michigan intercepted his first attempt in Ohio State Territory Tori Michigan Kicker Greg Landry's forty four yard game winning field goal. Went Wide Ohio state tried three more desperation passes in the game didn't so much end as Peter out this one thousand nine hundred seventy three twenty three years before the institution of Overtime Final Score Michigan Michigan ten Ohio state ten consensus feeling on both sides on both with sides was that Michigan we get the Rosebowl bed after the game woody Hayes is face. Fallen is hand trembling said we knew we had to win to go in we didn't the loss was an. Ohio state tragedy a number one team shoved aside because the coaches unwillingness unwillingness to trust his coaches and players know bowl game no chance to win the national title and then one day later the tragedy switch sidelines every college football season. 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Learn how wow CINTAS can help get your business ready it. CENTAS DOT COM the controversy versus that would take hold of the big ten was a self inflicted wound for one thing unlike the SEC in the Southwest Conference in the ACC and the big eight. The big ten allowed only one team to play in a bowl game. It's not as if the rosebowl needed the protection. I mean it's the Rose Bowl but that was the rule in big ten coaches not named woody and Bo. We're sick and tired of it eleanor coach Bob Blackman heard about it when he recruited against schools and other conferences differences in one thousand nine hundred seventy three six teams from the SEC in three from the big eight went to ball games. If a kid goes to big eight school Blackman told sports illustrated he has a fifty fifty chance of going to a big bowl in the big ten years a ten percent chance but in nineteen nineteen seventy-three the decision to break a tie was totally in the hands of the League's ten athletic directors they would vote and their decision would stand and here again. Michigan seem to have an edge five of the ten days it played at Michigan Ohio State had gone the year before. I know that wasn't a rule any longer but that's how people thought those are common sense reasons but in this story this is roughly where common commonsense went on Sabbatical Branston common sense would dictate that someone either big ten commissioner Wayne Duke or one of the eight voting athletic directors who didn't have a dog in the hunt would called Michigan to inquire as to the condition of Dennis Franklin in his broken collar bone in our modern age when news travels travels four G. Speed and the media thinks in terms of right now instead of the next morning's paper sportscenter would have had hourly updates but in one thousand nine hundred seventy beneath three no one called well do call the Michigan Stadium press box when he arrived at the Detroit airport after the game Saturday night but no no one ever talked to the Michigan trainer to find out if there was a chance that Franklin might be available for the Rosebowl. Here's what the big ten athletic directors knew. They knew that the big ten had lost four rose bowls and ro they knew they wanted in the street and they knew that Michigan might not have its quarterback and so on Sunday morning they voted as awoke Sunday morning and the disappointment he felt the day before or had not lifted if anything he felt worse that morning the thirty-seven-year-old team trainer. Al Heart died after a long bout with cancer and what he face facts he knew he wasn't beloved in the League. He never tried to be like never needed it. I thought he would say the directors would vote for them in motion Boeckler coach of them of Michigan caught arrive with a sports information director on Sunday into Detroit record his TV show in those days when teams on TV only once or twice a year coaches had a weekly TV show in which they would show the coaches film and discussed the game chatted on the way in about the trip to California. Komo talked about making sure. The team enjoyed the trip about not working them too hard car pulled into the parking lot at W. W. J. TV capacity of writers and TV guys awaited them. Detroit News reporter approached bow and said. Did you hear the news what news they voted. Ohio state to go to the Rose Bowl in his autobiography ghosted by the Great Mitch Albom. Bo said he stalked away from the media went into the TV studio and began kicking everything inside trash cans chairs. I have never been so angry in my life. Woody Hayes got a phone call tipping him off as to the result was sworn to secrecy so he called home when his wife answered it began humming California. AH -FORNIA here we come. Oh and he tore up his concession speech. The final vote was six to four in favor favor of Ohio state so who turned on Michigan there were more suspects than Christie novel Hathaway as as may have gone to Michigan but it was a good bet that none of them had much use for Don Canham the Michigan. Ad More to the point he had little use for them. Most of that time were former players or coaches kicked upstairs when they got tired of coaching or when coaching got tired of them can. I'm was a promoter a businessman. His first priority was to put butts in the big house seats. He thought like a salesman he knew that if he brought high school bands from all over the area to play at halftime in the parents would come and buy tickets canham thought progressively the other eighties thought like coaches. Canham wants called them a bunch of donkeys Wayne Duke. The Conference Commissioner never released the results of the vote. I I want to count the envelope. Containing votes was destroyed. Schindler told the Michigan Student newspaper Athletic Directors and Duke were running scared after losing four straight rose bowls. They needed a winner to help their prestige well. The big ten has lost any prestigious ever had I'm disillusioned and with the administration of College Football. This is why kids are losing respect for America. Yeah he went there both sided with the pot-smoking longhaired longhaired. Vietnam War protesting counterculture and woody does mentor responded those attitude. What he said was typical. Live today where every decision was questioned the problem today. Is We don't accept decisions. I've always accepted decisions that would come as news lose to the big ten officiating crews but we digress. Shinseki accused Duke of engineering the vote in his book. Bo said he got see-saw Coleman of Illinois to changes vote and influence some of the others he'll tell you it's not true but it it is and I will never forgive him. Coleman said he would have voted for Michigan. A Franklin were healthy in that era before email. Bo got hundreds of letters so did the big ten office at Sherman Covered College football for the Chicago Tribune for many years. Here's here's just written official history of the League in the Book Sherman quotes. Some of the letters sent to do a man in Chicago wrote since when is a whole team victimized because one player was injured another letter began dear little ten commissioner and my favorite favorite written as the country was caught in the throes of political scandal in Washington a new Watergate has arisen once proud decent and upright conference it has sunk to new depths of mediocrity and immorality that one was signed in the Lord's Service always Robert F Heft Pastor Trinity Evangelical Lutheran Church Hammond Indiana. Bo didn't stop attacking Wayne Duke Not in the days following knowing the decision not after the commissioner put the Michigan Coach on a year's probation not as we said at the top of the podcast thirty three years later four four days before Schimdt Boeckler died in one sense athletic directors were right right they sent Ohio state to the Rose Bowl in the buckeyes broke that four game conference losing streak pummeling. USC Forty Two to twenty one. If there was any consolation for Michigan any at all the Thai prevented Ohio state from winning the National Championship in a battle of unbeatens in the Sugar Bowl Notre Dame defeated Alabama twenty four to twenty three the Irish were voted number one but in another sense the big ten athletic directors were wrong or at least their reason for rejecting Michigan was wrong on New Year's Day a news photographer visited Franklin the quarterback Acoust- broken collarbone was the supposed reason for not sending the Wolverines West. Franklin said he was pain free to prove it as the photographer recorded it it Franklin threw a snowball judging by the actions of a conference Wayne Duke in the big ten athletic directors wanted no part of the spotlight the trained on them at the end of the nineteen seventy three season by nineteen seventy-five illeg had put in to new rules one in case of a a tie the rose bowl berth would be awarded to the team that had gone the longest since its last trip to Pasadena and two more important the league relaxed its restrictions against allowing only one team to play in a bowl that legacy is both checklist gift to the big ten into Olive College football think of all the big schools in the big ten make of all those big alumni basis who live in the upper midwest where the holiday season is frigid think of all all those snowbird alums who make their way to Florida into the desert the bowl business sure thought of him from eleven bowls in nineteen seventy four the last cheer of Champions only in the big ten the number of balls increased fifteen nineteen seventy eight double the twenty two by Nineteen Ninety eight and has almost those doubled again in two thousand eighteen eight big ten teams went to Bowl Games of course there now fourteen teams in the big ten but that's a story for another podcast. Ohio state fired Woody Hayes in December nineteen seventy seventy eight the day after the gator bowl when Hayes slugged Clemson linebacker who had the temerity to intercept the Buckeye Pass. I don't know if it was a punch heard round the football world but it is the punch that ended the ten year war no offense to haze his successor Earl Bruce or to any other coach in this rivalry just isn't a war without woody and Bo in those ten years. Bo One five games what he won four and there was one time Hazen. Sham Boeckler renewed their friendship once they didn't coach against each other. SCHIMDT Boeckler even invited Hayes to speak to his Michigan team. Jim Bachelor's autobiography a chapter entitled. Woody and me begins. I loved Whitney Hayes. I'm not not ashamed to say it down in distance. I'm Evan Ms L. Down in distance as part of ESPN's college football one fifty commemorating the one hundred fiftieth anniversary of the sport. 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Locker Room Livestream Replay: The Eagles must draft DeVonta Smith

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Locker Room Livestream Replay: The Eagles must draft DeVonta Smith

"What's going on leading nation. This is brandon lee young from bleeding relation and bt and radio of course here with you today to give little preface for today's locker room. Show that we do weekly on the locker room billable on devices. Make sure you download it if you don't have it already. And he actually go in that app. Gimme a follow search. My name's braden on there and if you do you'll get notified whenever these tax go live so it's always a fun time to be in the chat. I mean fun listening back to which presumably you are. If you're hearing this by if you actually want to be involved in the conversation get up on stage and talk with famous nine or actually like a little text chat feature within the app that you can kinda discount comment below sometimes will read the comments from there. There's some time some fun discussions. That aren't necessarily part of the show. It's time for conversation going on so that's cool too so make sure you do that. Also obviously want to tell you that Well i tell you that this episode. We talked about the draft. We talk about smith a lot as you might see in the title of this episode and a lot of other things. So it's wanna give you a little preference there but also telling you that bijan radio is brought to you by renaissance craft tricky. Go to right to sell. dot com. Discount began fifteen for fifteen percent. Actually read a user review from someone who found right. This songcraft tricky. Through at the end of this podcast. So that could be you. You really love that product in might give it a try also wild nature pet dot com if you have dogged high high-quality dog snacks for your pet again same discount code and fifteen for fifteen percent off at while. Nature pet dot com. So go do all that got a good conversation coming up for you today. On this locker room replay have a lot more content coming down the pipeline. The nfl draft this week. A lot of good things coming your way obviously new. Bgn radio that dropped out the above the nest with racial recapping last week a lot of good stuff on the nation podcast feed also make sure you subscribe the fbi Nfl show benjamin so lacking kissed my guest. I should say yes than select show reunited for a little bit on a draft Special that they did on that feed a lot of good draft contact coming your way beyond the eagles like national perspective but you also included two within their so. Go check that out as well. Those are all the plugs. I think i have for now yet which you might be skipping through understandably so let's get the conversation here on your nations locker room livestream replay. All right. we got people happened in here. Now noel yet. Nick sean guys sameness is here. Let's get him up of course as young chain coffee. good man. The you know the name of the room says it all locked in. I couldn't be more you myself wanting dug in the chat down there soccer course through the signing to this on the replay. Then there is a tat that you're not able to see who do not join us live so rectify that in the future by actually joining us live on the locker room app. Something available for right now. But you know. We don't an iphone though. I mean maybe of a tablet something so Julian hurter kelsey. Also taking in the chat. Saint couldn't agree more of the title of this room which is eagles must draft devante. Smith's i'm not dead man like here. We are less than a week. Away from the jacked and i just. I couldn't care less about him. Weighing one hundred and sixty six towns there is a line. I heard a podcast. I don't want to stole it. 'cause it's not my original thought. It was a quote. They found from archie griffin. The old ohio state running back the guy went to heisinge said about him specifically. But if you're good enough you're big enough I mean here's the thing like you. can i get. He's the outlier in the exception. And typically i don't like to bet on that. In general as a general principle but austat last night i think that came up from wwlp that was like you know there hasn't been a thousand yard receiver under one hundred seventy pounds since like nineteen something and i'm just like i just don't care because we can talk about his weight but where the conclusion from that is like oh. His weight is a big concern. Well has it been a big concern for him to this point like how is how is his weight like manifested into something. That hasn't been good. It hasn't right. It'd be different if you If he saw the way that jalen waddell has bounced back from after missing a bunch of time last year i know he did come back from the champions for the championship game but that was devante smith. I feel like you having an entirely different conversation about him. Being this guy who while he's exciting and shift looks like he can do everything with the ball in his hands and get open and tastic route on air if he had just suffered that type of injury being plugging him with the injury prone label and he'd be slotted even further in the drafting people originally thinking right. Now that's my biggest thing like he people keep saying. Oh in other worrying about the durability. I mean like he hasn't been hurt really though the finger thing last year in the like the in the playoffs or something but that's not like because he's thin like a football injury that happened to literally anybody no matter what they are and like. That's it and also it this whole thing about oh. We can't get off press coverage. He laid the top five grade by late. Pf effort whatever in terms of like getting press coverage not only last year but like two thousand nineteen as well and he was the best receiver on a team. That had jerry. Jeudy henry ruggs and deal model like he out produced them in terms of receiving yards and touchdowns. When they're on the team they get they. Just don't over think it. That's my biggest thing. This guy If you're talking to yourself out of him. I think you're making a mistake yet. It's a situation where that team has. We talked about the eagles. Don't try bevan players. Are they target this specific type of college archetypal but one thing you could bag. On the same way. I think of clemson wide receivers or linebackers from the big ten. I think about the receivers at alabama's produced in the last two years including this year and last year they will have produced four first round picks up wide receiver. All guys who are really good guys. At some point. I would have dreamed and love to have on the eagles. Smith isn't the best of all. Yeah and the other thing with smith is like the eagles goal should be. We've talked about this before seeing some new territory between you and i but like they're going to be elite passing offense. I don't like i don't so here's my thing. If they take a corner at twelve. And if smith is off the boards then obviously that becomes more palatable but like if they pass on smith to take a quarter. I mean like. I was thinking earlier this morning. Like what has the team done this offseason. To address their offense they signed joe flacco and nothing else like nothing else right. If you count the coaching change right sure but like you know just personnel wise. Now it's just been on defense. It's been anthony. Harris and eric wilson and andrew adams if you want to include him there Which is fine. I think those are fine editions. But like you're also gonna spend your first round pick to on defense like what are we doing. What just putting all their resources into defence all the sudden like i already think the defense this year has the second highest the caspi sleep dedicated to it or something. Like it's up there. I don't the slight thing everything up and then clocks in hargrave. It's it's a weird situation where they have a couple pretty good to great players on defense. But they're just on the wrong side of the aging curve. Then are you have a situation when sleigh where you know. The team really shouldn't have acquired him. He's good but he's not a lead and now he's moving he's in aging man. Oh man corner who's gonna be playing a lot more practice. You're baking think like a sixteen million dollar cap. Sorry if i'm wrong on that number specifically but you know it's not a slight on sleigh as much as it is on the organization that brought him here and put him into the situation and that's the thing where we have Hargrave coming in last year after they know just i'm leak jackson and nothing hargrave played pretty decently down the stretch on anticipating in having a healthy start the twenty twenty one season. I think he can be good. And know that hub spa fletcher cox and make his life a little bit easier. Hopefully he has a little more gracefully. because of that of but there's there's issues all over the defense but now we've harness a ton of the you know the number one edict for football. I think in the the twentieth century the easiest way sustained success is a great passing offense. Yes right absolutely. I mean yes. Of course yeah. And i'm excited to see what jonathan getting do and i agree and also i'm not saying nor the defense but like like don't are the offense. That's my problem. You know like if if they don't go to let's say they don't receiver at twelve. They basically have to thirty seven right. Like what are you gonna do. Spend your first two picks some defense to like. I know it's not about renton train. Back up by trade backup and it's not about like are they going gonna be screwed this year. I'm not saying it from that perspective because this doesn't matter it's not about that to me. It's just about like trying to build an offense and it doesn't have to be. I'll be done in one. The air. But i i would be pretty disappointed because you want to see what you have in. Jalen hurts to evaluate him further in. How're you doing that with the current group of wide. Receivers the roster. Like you can't like i. I think people are like. Oh well maybe. They can accelerate the new coaching staff. Like maybe but also just as possible that they're all terrible they can't play in the nfl or at least you know. Be very good. So i did want to note. That cameron glover pointed out. That they did sign jordan howard. Do i guess i forgot about. That's your other offense addition jordan. Howard might not make the team dill flacco so great rebuilding six twenty sixteen Jeremy stewart here in the The chat saying first time using the app so welcome jermaine any hope. Can't wait for the trashing on how to commence same you saw the. I'm sure you saw. Reverend saw. Roseman saw the fire. How a chance down at citizens bank park on monday or tuesday night and the thing i thought from that was like this team is not ready. They don't understand what the link it's gonna be like this year like. I i just don't i don't think they have like a pulse on that as someone as the most disease the you'll see on there is seen yourself and like you know being the the you know. You're gonna routed typical guy. Are you familiar with you. Follow soccer at all. Not a hardcore fan but i see some stuff in the news agency and stop with soccer league recently with the super league. Yeah yeah yeah. So for those who don't know the the top teams in europe whether they're no english clubs a couple of years clubs a couple of spanish clubs wouldn't go together and leave their current leagues these leagues that have centuries long story tradition these these great rivalries and they wanna form the biggest conference. It's like if clemson and alabama in ohio state and michigan and like argued just made their own conference and left the respective no pac twelve. Sec stuff just kind of give a comparison and those fans went ballistic. There was like i say like riots. It's not like that would just parading through the street like fireworks all this crazy stuff that you would kind of associate with like a political protests much to compare the severity of those two things ima slightest people mobile highs to the streets had to show at demonstrator. This pleasure for what was happening for these teams that are so ingrained into themselves and other communities and their families and their friendships. All those different things the same way. I kind of a huge soccer guy myself by do respects soccer fans or football fans on the other side of the pond because of how dedicated they are. How rapidly are how much they like. They like want blood every game and stuff like that. So i empathize there but situation. What would it take for people to have like. I say like a riot. Or just like you know. Standing outside the novacare what some like you know a megaphone and some sides and stuff like that. What are we going to get into that territory. I mean the pressure is on clearly. I mean when you're getting people at a phillies game and like pretty loudly to ten. Wasn't you know just like a a week thing pretty loud and went viral. He's he's aware happened. There's no way he's not aware it happens. I can't lie. You know someone who even as been a big you know maybe one of the if not the biggest critics of howie roseman felt something about. It felt like dad or not bad but like like wrong. Just because like kind of does feel like a little ungrateful right. I mean like yeah i get. I get frustrated. I don't disagree with that but like the fire stuff was just like it. Hurt me a little bit. He's human being too and like an eye but at the same time. I'm not gonna blame anyone who's frustrated so but my my takeaway was just that like i think the link is going to be frigging nuts. This year like a full capacity. Oh yeah it's it's going to be insane because it really like the the phillies game. That's him on earlier. This week showed me that like this frustration. Pent up like people weren't at the games last year for the most part you donate a little attendance for a little bit but you know obviously wasn't the seen the real thing like once this thing gets live and if this team gets off to a slow start which is very conceivable given the lack of talent you know. Obviously the uncertainty quarterback first year head coach very fresh new coaching staff as a potentially ugly man and a I mean we talk about all the time. like how. how safe is how he's job. I mean it's not safe. He's not lasting the season. I feel like if it's every week like we're seeing how he chance. And i don't think we're gonna see that. I don't need to be that bad society but if it is i think that point like leary. That's when he listens. I wrote about this little bit this week in my newsletter talking about the fans the fans the phillies game freak out at zoos bank park and the white frame that was that like like you said the pendle frustration is a great way to say it because the entire season disastrous. Four eleven in one season. I've said for the twenty one or so years. I've been a fan. Since i was two thousand two thousand one when i was growing up That was that was the most embarrassing season the worst season the most hopeless season of my time as an eagles fan and fans of the game would have been going wild with everything that was going on boone. The crap out of them said all this pen of frustration and they're fun the allowed to go with sporting event like sunday i want my first phillies game but it was awesome awesome time. They won. aaron nola complete game shutout bryce harper. Two run home run. you know. That's that's the dream for you. Know a philly's sunday afternoon but anyway It was great to just be outside of the sporting event against the longest. I've gone in my life. Since i started going to philadelphia sports games that i went without one. And i understand if you're like out there and you're you know you're having a drink and you're sitting in the sun on at a sporting event in the back of your brain. All you want to say his could chain or complain about eagles. Eagles i guy knows eagles town i get that. So just like no get out of their system right now like i feel bad for the phillies a little bit. They were losing that game so if they really wanted people to not do that they could have just poor foreign better. But you know what i'm saying. It's just. I think that he is like it's just going to be on like i. Just if it's like that again every week or the if we're seeing that a lot during the season like i just think no that's gonna force larry's hand like if you have a whole friggin stadium. Do you think apathy then Think like to see stadium a stadium. That's not even completely folk. I think that would be later on. I think again going back to the pent-up frustration. I think people are just going to have the energy out of the gate Excitement and the naked also and it can be looking at this from the bright side. It can be a great thing could be. It could manifest itself in a positive way. I think you know the off to a good start towns. It'll be everyone. It'll be hyped up. their back. Eagles game was like life. It's back to. The eagles are playing well better than expected like it could go on a great way but it also could go really. It's probably one of the two extremes. There i just think Depends obviously how they do. Doug michael sane in the chat doesn't the trade back signal that how he is a rope and i've said that definitely definitely he's bikes more time. I know it's great value in a vacuum beal. G and i've talked about this not the guy you want to see making that move because of this history of the last years we had them. I think that definitely is a hey. We're kicking the can doubt give me another year to set things up because if things don't go well this year mike. Hey this is actually the end of the super bowl ever were rebuilding and restocking next year. We have at least four picks first two rounds probably three first round picks mike counters. That would be that like if it just gets so ugly again. You have these chance you. Have you know the team looking like disaster. It's also a time where you can hire an attractive new. Gm in theory right. It's like hey new. Gm we have all these picks to work with. You can cut let you in theory. You might have the desk. Gm opening just because of the assets that you have to work with so that might be the time Where they can pivot if especially if there's like no really what this would like compared to but let's say you know there's a daryl morey equivalent like out there i i don't know about the guy that joe douglas guy maybe andrew berry rounds Maybe i don't know like in my head i just. I honestly don't have a good name. I'm thinking like maybe they could make a run at kevin colbert from the st louis. I doubt it. But i'm gonna say someone lorries spent. I'm not there are situations in the the the sixers they've been courting murray for a while they leave leaving twenty seven they they asked to interview him and they did and it just happened where we went back to houston. Got a salary like double because Sixers head on with like an f. You offer either money or you're gonna like get the money from your current team that Have done that with coaches before. In terms of like sean payton. John harbaugh like they've even when it's been like those guys have been under contract but when they've had an opening like they've been out there like they've been interested so it was never like realistically i love you in that i love that and lincoln riley to even just this offseason like it's yeah it's not like it's probably not going to happen but they they don't limit themselves like they have these like big ideas and they're probably not going to be land the big fish but but That's that's i guess like disol- very infix potentially but i'm just want to say Open the requests to speak of anyone. Hasn't he takes takes because we've heard from anyone yet. But if you don't i mean we don't foresee here but but would like to hear from listeners. Visiting to say what else is on your mind. Shame less than a week for the draft and the media. Not moral comment this after my first unwound movie theater and forever. I know it's on. Hbo mexican watch at home. But it seems like a good movie to see some pretty excited. I saw the The i don't onus flu anything pretty by saw the trailer for that and it looked interesting. I think zero where their guy though like games as a kid will probably do. I feel like by the way. Like maybe i'm psych softer something here. But i feel like mortal kombat got to decide the newer ones. I can't do them. i can't i'm not. i'm though like once you're over the age of like twenty four. You can't like gamer more than well. It's just like the grabbed the how graphic they are. I'm just. I'm not that kind of guy guy i it's cool order. Yeah it was on the you know the older stuff just because You know it's not like the imagination it's like eight bit or it's terrible graphics against it's goofy but now it's almost like really odd man like this isn't the mike thing. So what's your what's your dream day one and day two like you say like the wall like we're not doing trade smith a twelve seven seventy eighty four. What's for you. I think it's kind of chalk here but it's devante twelfth and i think this a decent chance he's going to be there because like the lions are like a threat to take him in theory but like are they really going to spend as you know. I'm not concerned about the weight. But i'm pretty sure people in the nfl. Are they really gonna spend the seventh overall. Pick on him. I don't know the giants have been linked to him too. I i think they're gonna take parsons citing that's the direction they're going to go in. I don't think they're going to go. Receiver so devante. I guess like. I don't wanna say sante to. How could you not want him on the eagles. How could he not. We won't ball skills. That's my thing. I think we've talked about that. That's my number one priority to get like a game record type. Present talked about it on from the bleachers. This week ahead. Great benjamin so like on draft. I'll haven't listened to that definitely. Check it out. But that's what. I'm prioritizing in a defensive. Back in fell is ball skills and be able to create turnovers. And we're talking about a guy like samuel given his pedigree a guy you just take the ball but you know. Give it the other way once. We know it's funny. You say that. Because that's that's a big reason why i'm not like l. The must get dc horn who i examined man or even. Certainly those guys stats. I think it's i forgot the top of my head but they don't have like a ton of inserts. Have word horn has two or three yes. I think you're right. That was my head. I think it's four. I or three for horn or something like that in the past is defense. You know the the pb us like they're fine. They're not like exceptionally high or anything. And that's not that's not everything you know. Those those numbers are noisy too like they don't always have context like you could have less because they're not throwing your way every but still like you know i just. I don't see these owners as like can't miss kind of corners to me. So i'm doing smith. Twelve samuel junior at thirty seven. Seventy the guy. I'm really ensue. Milton williams defensive lineman louisiana tech. Have you looked at him at all. No his number one measurable comp on draft Mock draftable is aaron. Dialed number. three's atkins all right. All in absolute beast like i hate. We say athletic freak every five seconds when talking prospects that guy actually does he long arms and stuff too or no. that's under caste. We have short arms. So that he he would probably be like a first round talent. Otherwise i remember. I think it was on espionage and nfl show. I forget who they were talking about been. Pf for but have been selected. They're talking about One of these defensive end prospects. Who's like he short but he's really long arms and stuff so it's like kind of like a great combination because he's you know you don't want to be too tall because then you're gonna have loman wins than fell you have leveraged and everything but then like he has the lake of a taller person so leeds those arms to kind of help keep the offense tackles off of them and stuff so i forget exactly who that was. Not great really worthless mentioned that guy enough to remember his name. Yeah right right but Week that's the best case scenario. Why don't we over worse. Case scenario which i think is could he pay for me at number twelve. I just i just don't get how you look i i. I can't see how he's the best player on the board. This is a guy one force fumble in college. He's like twenty three twenty three in his rookie season. So he's on the older side for ricky. I know devante semesters like similar but is also like proven reproductive productive. Why he's arrived like quit quit. He pays like you're picking him because of a side. Please twenty three so it's not the same kind of thing they're chiro. I love that. I really just i. I'm so fearful like they would actually do that. What about you. What's your worst case going to guard. Like i talked about rashawn slater a little bit and that was kind of the main focus of the podcast did with sollac and so projects in more as an offensive tackle than most people seem to me and something we'll have as a one But there could be you know line of thought that he's better as a guard at the pro level. I'm ready about this my newsletter next week but to take an interior offense of lyman on day. One this early with a top. Pick coming off a four eleven and one season. That's on a premium position. The way we you offense attack or quarterback arrive receivers or defensive ends and to get a guy like that you know and not even have him start likely. In year one is just a complete misallocation of resources. Like we've seen guards come in that. Were drafted early. Quit nelson zack. Marin those guys made first team all pro selections as rookie not just on their rookie contract on the rookie. Year is slater to do that is you. Don't even be playing in. Starting the maybe they move away from brandon brooks chore but is better situation re comes in automatically and he's starting he's making at least pennsylvan- for two bowls miserably contract. I don't really like that that same situation if they were to. You know trae down a couple of slots and pick up a bear hugger from usc guy who played Some tackle as a senior but it might be more of a guard at the next level to get a dany rogers up here. He's going on up. Danny doing a beautiful day up here. Boston's enough nice. Great steady other demos loved the survey. So there's actually a a nice little eagle sports bar up here. That runs every sunday lot. Fun and Yes up here on legal sunday. What's it call on but my question. The bar attic jussia down through the code A guy named joe had blank on his last name right now but he runs a group called the philadelphia. Eagles fans of boston makes a cool shades every year. All that so There's facebook groups will find me barclay center. I'm very nice. Yeah my question for you. All is what round view addition address. Backup running back for sanders tower. Kind of getting up there and it seems like boston. Scott water utility back To love the question. I think day three. I think the earliest should go is probably the fourth round. Maybe you take a guy like kyle held there. I think it might be more realistic. The fifth or sixth round guys like that. Roger shuba hubbard from oklahoma state. You have khalil. Herbert from virginia tech. Those guys i think in day three could be in the mix for the birds bill. Look at the running backs. That's something 'cause it's a juicy position for me. Oh backup running back. That's because we see no miles sanders didn't play you know. Isn't the most durable player. We've seen him no miss some time before We'd like to see more of as a pass catcher than we did as a sophomore. Not a little bit of a win situation there but no you wanna dynamic backup is seen in the past. It wasn't really twenty twenty but we saw in twenty nine. How much of a game changer. No boston scott have been at a couple of different times in the season. Yeah something we've touched on before. But i feel like miles enters a low key. Lower key should be disappointing year. I thought he was gonna be like a pro bowl. I thought we were looking at the guy who's making a pro bowl team before. Maybe that's the case. He's only going into his third year. Rookie contract and a new offensive system. We've seen a mixture yonhap success with running backs in indianapolis so that's not not the right mafia. But i was a little disappointing last year too. Yeah you technically did make the pro bowl. What you're right. Oh it's like it was like a maddened fans or something like that doesn't count. It does not like the real pro bowl selection. But i'm any because for as much as a home run hitter like pass protection. The agreed that was one of the worst pack was passed protecting running backs. Last year was a big deal and something. He had an issue with a penn state and seem to be better in his rookie year. I don't know how you regress there. But then he regressed do as a pass catcher in a big way. I think part of that was once whence clearly just isn't like the best quarterback not big on the five yard passes. Yeah like i mean what running back has really like thrives with carson wentz. You know as you know throwing the ball to mean. I guess like corey clement. For a little bit but like you know on clement. Had the but they live in better one fox for one night. Yeah so. I like hubbard. You know i think even just based on the alone and that's how would you not all three of those in great running back stakes. Yeah so I definitely think. I mean look. There was sock day. And i think they were taken. They would've taken jeremy tin they wouldn't have taken What's his name. The guy who went to the ravens from yeah. I don't think they've taken him but there's there but there was talk like i think he you've probably high in their boy there. Let's say maybe ten wasn't there and they didn't really go dobbins since so. I think the running backs pretty much like it is pretty realistically in play. Because i mean like howard by not even make the ideally howard. Doesn't make the team. I don't want that deal. Looks like him as a person. Just nothing personal a flyer. Someone else. who's not older. Doesn't have this this mileage on like let's try to see guy he does a little bit. Maybe something twenty twenty two instead and a guy who's under team control for more years like we're to be free to get next year like you get you. Dfa he's under contract for like multiple years. Do you have anyone dating at you like are you just asking the sorry. Mother knows muted No i i really don't know anything about the running back does much graphics exousia so just wondering i'll but thanks again i'll hop off the stage. They're coop They say any Yeah this year. I feel like it's been tougher for me just like you know. She's usually visits usually we. Have you know a lot of hype around combine. we have while we actually have combine Produce and everything. And then. I actually do that. Draft interest tracker. Which i'll be putting together for bleeding nation dot com this week and i kind of like to see You know who really showing interest in. Sometimes it's useful last year. I mean like regular was like pretty much narrowed in the at the guy at that point so he kinda can't tell sometimes But this year without visits in without the combine without everything. It's just like you don't even have the same kind of way to narrow in on who they might be looking at who they are looking at day three and everything join wants to get up on states here. Let's get him up julian. How's it going man. You guys emmy. Yeah we got to first of all to say really like your work g shammas. I've been the following you liberty bars ballers crew since high school sir. Thank you awesome. Actually i once wrote a fan post. I got a amount of traffic. It was a breakdown of jakarta. Samson's jump shot love that real good use of a twenty five hundred words so yeah okay my quick question. You guys was since it such a strong receiver class but more so india more busy slot role. What would you guys think about taking a. I know you guys like 'certain on the who's the guy out of out of That second warm south carolina. Yeah so seeing as maybe like sleigh being your one on the outside but you wanna play more zone scheme maybe a. Maybe a 'certain would be a good fit but at jc cornyn. Would you guys think about taking a you know hoping that one of one of those small shifty slog guys a rondell more eric darius tony onto thirty seven so maybe having fog at the x ray playing from the z and then got one of those shifty slot guys. I really like allies. Were from from ole miss it. They go cornerback. Were non receiver in round. When i think they definitely need to take a rec- read thirty seven or do a little mini trade up back into the end of the first round to get their guy but for that slot. Top guy i think allies more. It'd be that guy maybe does maybe doesn't even last thirty seven. I think i've seen some mocks rico's late late in the first round. But i think he'd be the ideal modern slot. You want that shifty type of god not the way we thought. Justin jefferson was lock last year style. Yeah i mean the reason that i know. It's really it's really tough. I was looking back yet Posted for last year and it was like making the case for just davison as the eagles thick in like tall article at smith. Nah that means you're not. I know i know i know but i want to put it out there because then you know if they don't like each second year in a row guys like come on dislike. I'm probably wrong all the time. Don't listen to me. But like i'm saying maybe sometimes do just like it's not even about listening to me. It's like doing the obvious thing. I'm not even are not like arguing for something that is like you know like crazy complicated or it's just like do the obvious thing that makes sense. That was justice. Doesn't everson last year. It smith this year to your question. Julian i think a big reason why want smith is because i legitimately believe you can use them anywhere like i think we we saw that like like. He's not a prototypical. Nfl x receiver. But watch him play and also he's like i was looking at you. Know his spider graph measurements and stuff and he is like sixty six percentile arms. And you can see that like you can go up in. Get the ball and he can also put them in the slot. 'cause he's like smooth shifty and he can also plays for you like you can do everything. So that's another big reason for him To me is this having the yeah could not agree more. Honestly when i watched monty smith like he just screams like uk doesn't have the size but he's just an alpha thoroughly like you see him. Yes mac jones like throw it to me and do like he's playing. Sec corners like these are all going to. These guys are all going to end up in the nfl one way or another like. He's doing it against nfl nfl corners already. One hundred percent agree alpha's the perfect words ram and. That's really what i think in theory like an x receiver is thank is not just about the size. It's about like the personality. It's about how they win. And like just what like business can separate. He's a really good route runner. Like i absolutely disowning things about him. That it's just like where i if if you don't like him i just feel like you're looking for reasons not to like him. No as opposed to like taking things. He's actually really good. At what is a lot of different things a lot of things. That are encouraging. And you're trying to tell talk yourself out of that. And i just don't see why don't do that. Don't don't try to make him worse than your is like. Look at how good he is. He's the heisman like it's that simple the death any end for good reason. He dominated the sec. Like it's in so obvious to me. That should be the pig like to do it. And also i don't wanna hear that like a receiver is valuable position like it's about it's about the objective of taking a receiver which is still retain retaining arena. Secretary audit. I was told. I have seen it. I don't want to say names. I have seen it out there From like you know just like regular were also seen it on like wip. So like you know. I i've seen the conversation is out there like they should take a quarter. That's i've seen the like. This is taking quarter. They should take in theory like all thing if there was an offensive line prospect that i felt urge defensive end. Let say there's a defensive end prospect who was like the version of devante v. I would probably want that guy over. Devante smith because edge rusher. I think was probably more tactful. But that guy doesn't exist i and also like maybe it's not the best way to think about it like the eagles having like hit on a first pick in quite a bit and i just feel like you look smith profile like that guy's not going to be a boston me. Maybe you think he is of the weight. I don't think he is. I use a safe pick. But i also think he is upside. He seems like high floor high ceiling. Absolutely and that's that was my argument with jefferson too. I think for some reason people started to say. Jefferson didn't have a high ceiling just because he had a high up like those things. Don't always go hand in hand. It's not always like our. He is a high of floor is a low ceiling. Like that's not always the case it can be the case that he has a high end is ealing and i think you know i think jefferson is a superior prospect to be clear than devante just because like he checks a lot more boxes like justin jefferson tested. Well easy younger. He was only like twenty time. He was drafted like. There's things that you know work better in jefferson's favor. I felt like he was even more of a no brainer. Picks than smith is now like the weight is concerned by comparison like it's staff and then the age by comparison but man. I can talk about this all day. Sides believe in him so much and real quick last thing guys. I wasn't like everyone had against. It was like oh. He's a slot guy he's a slot guy like at the end of the day. You watch that guy play and he just gets open and catches everything and makes plays just need the outside a lot minnesota. He wasn't just a slot guy there. I'm like he comes in the nfl and he dominates. We just need a guy who can make a play the honestly the eagles talked about it. Like why they didn't jacked up. Persson is because they had this idea of like fit in their mind in terms of like. I think one of the things that was talked about at least inside the organization was like what we have is accurate. And he's like our target hog. Well first of all like obviously not great foresight accurate. Probably not going to be on the team here. Great so you're not going to draft the guy because of a guy who might be off the team and receive ably a year later. It wasn't like this is a surprise. That's accurate like wasn't going to be around for much longer because his contract was coming up anyone stance in the eagles clearly weren't keen. Hang him and the other thing will jefferson near kind of getting at julian. Is this like it's obvious it's dislike. Don't over think it don't make despite complicated than it has to be. And then less than. I'll say the difference in like he played on the outside by the way when he was a so the year before. Finally eric at college when he was only like nineteen in the sec. Any divine you'd like eight hundred yards year. Whenever like he wasn't a star like he was in his final season. But this is still good so like are they not watching. That like what's the deal. He didn't think he was only not resist like he didn't even like watch him. Because i wasn't the laura. Thank you guys. Beck's actual bomb point. Yeah that's awesome. I feel like. I'm watching samson in the summer league and i was like there might be something would sky the i feel like i saw a song flash a little bit now. Obviously he's not like it's not actually like a good player right. mba player he's nba player. But not like you know like you know not positive. Yeah yeah Cameron governor in the chat says things will see more middle of the field throws this year. Doug was calling a lot of outbreaking routes interesting thing to think about cameron. Because i think the quarterback down her. It's like that's not a strength. Yeah like that's that's gonna be interesting to see and that's also a big reason. Why like the kyle. Fits thing was weird to me. Is like you're going to build like an offense. Not that hurt. Should be like you know like like enamored as the feature franchise quarterback from global we. We can't draft this guy because it hurts though it'd be done but like i know of a weird fit though because we didn't really see him you know and i think there's there's reasons for that in terms of like being shorter can not necessarily being able to see the field. Well no over the middle where that was the strength of carson wentz. You know he's a big guy and he likes to like when he was at his best like he did. Work the middle of the field. Well it's probably on the best he did. He did while we combine the two of them. Yeah if you could if you could do that then you'd be set. I mean if you can if you can take carson wentz his talent but like dealing like work ethic offie. Yeah in like This mentality that them yeah. I don't wanna say work. Hard is very hard. But i think also started. His own terms was something. I've talked about before. Like he's not necessarily doing what it should take everything that something that might be uncomfortable doing whereas hurts like literally doesn't care he just wants to use a sponge like soak up anything whereas carson wentz's not sponge wants to do what he does very selectively But yes. I think it'll be interesting to see how the offense looks different. I mean we. We gotta head coach juice. There's no doubt about that else coach. The rock paper scissors things. We haven't talked about that specifically okay. Yeah sure what's your take on it to jimmy. And i doing kamsky and i talked about this on radio. Podcast more to get to listen to the whole thing. A wonder how many dubbed things are reared things are strange things teams asked prospects to do in person that we have no idea about And i think is it that weird is is it. Like is the whole crux of their evaluation and their interview like oh loss at rock paper scissors or he thought it was weird. Can't draft him. We don't know the context could have been something you know. Playful icebreaker you're on zoom. Call with you know a twenty one year old. You've never met before it. You don't know exactly how to how to go about things to get the conversation on. I don't think it's that weird what i said. The jimmy is an hour repeated. Here is just like i think. The eagles goal is one hundred percent. Correct like what they're getting at with trying to gauge a prospects. Competitiveness is that matters the hundred percent matters because we talk about it with big winner energy in big lose energy here all the time like i think they need more guys who hate to lose. They need more talented players to yet to marry those things together. You don't just want a bunch of try hearts but like you need talented guys who also just wanna frigging win. And that's another reason by the way to take devante smith because that dude is locked in just wants to win so i don't know it. Rock paper scissors is like the best method. Do that. i'm not a psychologist. I don't know. I don't really know if there's value in that school though it's simple it's simple it. You know if you get that response you want outside. The prospect of fits. The new organizational philosophy. They're having in this post. Doug postcards in postal roll era serbia. Like i'm not saying they should stop it or i don't know how accurate that is. The only thing. I can't i don't know i haven't done enough. Trial runs and testing. I think it's fair if your criticism is like is that even effective. I think that's but i think they should like what they are trying to accomplish with. That goal is absolutely correct. So i'm not gonna fault them for that. I'm not gonna say like they shouldn't care. No they should care like this is what they're trying. The measure is important. I don't know if they're actually measuring effectively. That's i don't know but they're trying at least i will. I will give them the credit for that. Nick ruined points out here. Alabama receivers used to play rock paper scissors to determine routes who incidents we saw. We saw clip of that. Yeah it was great. It was a was waddell and smith right. It was i don smith. Yeah where he comes in he. He did the meeting with us. Smith or wild. The meeting syrian. He came in ready to rock it out. Best two out of three twenty two. Like i think i think saw what a win in that clip mean actually lost as much as screaming for heavy locks on that matter. Which just you get llano. Yeah he he'd lost best you out of three this guy. Get him off yes. That's the tiebreaker. it's like. They have literally like exact same grades on him. It's like either. Lost a half. Corey wilson the very long comment here in the chat. Says i've been thinking all morning about the draft. Would any buddy be upset. Trading back to the twenty taking killer farley and double dipping in taking asante samuel similar always lido in sheldon heck with those moves they could even maybe package zakar to get back up high and pursue another second rounder in tears. Marshall that'd be the dream scenario for corey wilson so to me corey Earlier on the show. I was like man like if they're taking a quarter with their first round pick. It's like they've barely even done anything to address offense this offseason to begin with and now like double dipping like that then. You're not getting receiver until you're saying here. You know they treat up for one in the second marshall still But there's some stuff that's come out about. Marshall i think like right like injury wise. There's some kind of concern. And then there is with farley to you. Farley's had multiple back surgeries. Yeah i don't love that. Yeah before house talking about european soccer. I like their their ability to just like go out in scream in the streets about their they were outside the their team stadiums screaming and wanting a new ownership. You know trading down again for the second time after originally had the six pick after disastrous. Four eleven in one season and they're taking a had multiple back surgeries and kayla farley. That's a situation. Where i wanna be outside the novacare screaming. Yeah it's the back stuff is just like thirty seven. I would double dip in the second round. Cornerback took a samuel and you know. Thirty seven maybe Large molin slot from washington falls to seventy or positive debo from stanford is there or i fought and follow syracuse tre williams from syracuse. That's fine. I don't wanna trade back for farley specifically and do that Yeah i just. The farley injury thing makes me comfortable about harley specifically than the whole philosophy around quarterbacks. I mean that they take a cornerback twelve. They still need quarterback calva. They took another one at seventy four. It's understandable David rose checking in the chat when you say must responding to. Eagles must have to on his methods. Eagles had a choice between any other. Cevers pits cockpits martinez don smith or jalen. Waddell smith is the top choice for the eagles. This is david rose asking me. I mean for the eagles. If we're talking about the eagles specifically i mean do marches is probably the guy number one i just think the profile is even better than smith. But you know we're talking about you know. I don't think he's going to be there. I don't think it's realistic role. Realistic options yeah. I think at smith is a although i will say like when the eagles were at six i think it was like a a fair conversation. I think it's a fair conversation to say between devante. And i think that's that can be had. I think you can make your if you really love. Devante i think i do. I think you can say like the gap. Isn't that big. I would say for me. Chase smith pits waddell. Okay i know a little bit lower on pinson some other people so i understand what we're talking about specifically to. Yeah that's rhonda. I'm not talking about just the draft. Diagnostically i mean for the specifically. Those would be the way. I write the top. Four pass catchers in talking about like agnostic team. I think i'm putting pitswon support for this. Episode comes from locker room the app. That's changing the way we talk. Sports locker room is a sports fans. Dream come true. It's alive audio platform that lets you connect with other fans experts. And even the athletes themselves locker room makes it easy to start your own conversations. Talk about the latest rumors takes news and teams you care about most join massive watch parties for all of your friends to react together in real time as you celebrate a buzzer beater or suffer the agony of a crucial bricks. 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Well if they don't believe in jail would saying it's because he had a poor season you know the rest of the roster around him isn't that great so they'd probably be picking up pretty high to begin with would think biaggi's so if they're picking again you're the top six pick and they don't maybe they are even worse than have the fourth or fifth pick I think could be a situation where you're there in position to get a good quarterback next year whether it's a guy falling to them at their selection where they use one of those other two first rounders move up there. I don't think right now. I don't like the conversation where like. Oh it's a bad cornerback. Class we don't know that you don't no one knows borough was the first overall pick to go. Zappala xactly overall pick last year. We don't know that yes. I don't know who's gonna be available. Necessarily you know for better or worse. Like in the veteran trademark who saw stafford getting treated this offseason. Maybe it's worth maybe russell wilson against traded next year. Or let's say that i. I know the just watson things just like you can't even who knows my board. But i mean. The eagles have been rumored to be interested in them. I'm not gonna say it's impossible so like that's in play There's guys out there who could become available that you don't think would be right now. I mean aaron rodgers could become available. Like you know you just don't like to and that's part of why to how he's credit and what he said this week about like flexibility creates opportunity. He's right like having the having the assets for anything that could pop up. That could be unexpected is part of a strategy and i'll give him credit for that and i think that's some of the appeal to the trade down but to answer your question. Jeremy i'm i'm thinking something like water gun to my head first initial pressing these. I think like a six and eleven record. Is i think where they're going to be at what about you. What do you think they're going this year I mean i'm like y'all. I'm i'm trying to lower my ex. That's even just. Because i mean not. Only just the drafts that we've had in the past but also like injury bug issues. Yep and just what seems to be like a cultural problem within the organization. Now that's come to light. It's just really hard for me to to narrow it down. But i'd probably agree with you on the six eleven. Yeah we're not. we're not going good. The discharging time to be an eagles fan. It is what about you saying. What are you thinking record was well. The what's the vegas over under six. And a half. I think so like seven sappington eight nine just over two hurts plays okay and division stinks and then ill schedule is easy to and they have. I think by strength of schedule the easiest schedule which i mean think the cowboys are of the second easiest schedule. So it isn't a huge difference in terms of the nfc standings. I don't believe other than the washington has a tougher schedule. Certainly situation where it's like last year where they're kind of a middling team but neither they do make the playoffs and then you're kind of like the land right Dug in the chat says this is a bad team bed roster in a brand new coaches to go into be bad in a position to take a guy regardless of quarterback he has them for twelve and one another tied dear. God i do not wanna see another tie anytime soon. The got ties in the preseason or ties overtime. Yeah so there will be ties in the preseason. Now which is that no over. time the yet that's just ridiculous I want to read this from james gregory. Our good friend down in the chat. Who says he doesn't see the downside of the monty smith receivers in the. Nfl are protected even more these days in his physicality is not hindered him in the sec. His ability to recognize coverage glide through his routes and a ferocious desire to win. Seems like a no brainer to me. If he doesn't work out francis he will. Would anyone really be upset. I don't think so. Yeah i think that is incredibly well said james like that is how could you feel bad about taking devante smith. I guess the scenario is like he comes into the nfl any literally is just like donald humphrey in. It's just like oh too small. But like i just don't see i just don't see that i really don't see that happening is not pumped by pompous awful like Solex boy pump racked up stats in like what was that like mountain west football whatever. Whatever the anything's pac. Twelve whatever in san diego state. Yeah yeah like like this is like a different level of football we're talking about also like donald trump free like kinda hard with Devante 'cause we don't know exactly how he tested a kind of would like to see those numbers at a little bit better by did i just like to have all that info. But like puffery didn't test well at all like he ran fast forty. I think that was it. He had no like agility chart. Look a mike yes. I kind of look it up. It's not good. It's like he's fast like in a straight line. No doubt but like is no legal and you need to have that as a running back right like how often is running back. Are you literally just running in a straight line down. The field does not. It's not really good. Looking great to say i triangle and i think The huge short to to meet like he's like especially short end small Nine percentile height one percentile. Wait three priya armed Three percents tile arm lengths four percentile hand size. Zero tile benchpress nelson percentile is forty yard dash. Nellie let's look up devante by comparison pre surely. It's not that bad guys in here Devante thirty five percentile. He's only two percentile weight. So nsf one seventy barred by the jarvis over here but Each forty percentile hand size forty-five arm lanes and sixty six. Like you said earlier. Wingspan so he actually has a long wingspan and he watch him play again like he plays bigger than the size. Like assist the case like and it's not like he's taking advantage of you know like dad players in college so ridiculous to me. He's dominating and i think something that a like i was thinking about more like so a lot of people talk about al waddell had even bigger numbers than smith. And certainly that's true. I don't dislike waddell as a prospect of smith. It's off the board. I think motto would be reasonable pick at twelve. But i kind of a little concerned about the injury stuff but i think going back to like why this matter to alabama like waddell got hurt and devante was the clear number one in that offense and they can stop him. You know what. I mean like teams were like. That's i that's like the biggest thing teams had to care about once lotto gets hurt is like how do we stop the monty smith. Let's lock in on that. And they couldn't they couldn't do it. And that was like that should have been the primary objective epilepsy chase. Yeah just stayed at six. I get the optionality. The more we've gotten away from the train the initial anger dislike. What is it doing. We south through the season. We want the highest possible to eliminate the margin for error when landing. You know hopefully elite talent right away contribute both immediately and for the next several several years. That is still where most both guys could begun. I mean i think. I think smith is going to be do you and your heart of hearts twelve. Yes i do. I really do. I do think he's going to be there. I think they would have been there at at at six. I mean as yeah graft has gotten closer and closer. I feel as if you know the the need for. Qb has has escalated. And you know all of those first. Five picks are going to end up. You know mainly all being quarterback in in ten soul as is going to be there at cincinnati and. I just don't know how they if they dropped the ball on on getting somebody to protect him. I don't understand why chase would be there. If we were still at six could situation. They stayed at six. They could have gotten soul to if they took chase right earlier through. Lake malaga. I like we. I know we all like story. But you know it's a great way to a you know. Ignite the offense beyond just a wide receiver. Talent showing up the the offensive tackle situation especially going forward with jaws getting older and no increasingly injury prone melodic still card. We saw some nice strides. this year you now Only get bernard up on stage. Here bernard that's pretty damn close. Brennan tried bernie for sure With rumors of wanting to trade back up is there. What i see. is there someone. They're hoping maybe slips. Is there someone in mind. You think they would really like to or is that just getting ahead of the cowboys and giants seems like conjecture to me. But what do i know in a situation like why value and saying like. Oh they got a first round pick extra four trading from six to twelve they move up to eight and just part with like pick seventy and picks in one thousand nine. That's right value. And i get that. That's a situation. Y i'm just thinking minimize the error. Just take your guy at six forgotten. They trade back off for. I don't think they would trade off for one of the receivers and terms of smith Maybe if it's chased chase fall in that far maybe of swale falls. I don't know i don't know what to believe. I don't have a read on how the organization feels about cockpits. I'm sure every team's enamored with things. He's going to be awesome I don't know if he's the exact trade off target to me. i think i don't think they're going to trade up that's just my guess And if they did. I feel like it only makes sense to go. As high as nine dislike to get ahead of dallas and the giants. If there's a player you really want And also if the cost. Isn't you know that it's not too late. So going by the draft pick guy chart it would take a late third to move up from twelve to nine now again. That doesn't necessarily mean. That's the cost because the precedent there's the the market for that pick if other teams are trying to get there. I just think nine could be available because my theory is like the broncos could. Maybe you wanna get a quarterback and then let's say the panthers trade down from a now quarterback on so now. The broncos are okay with trading down. But like i said deals really should be trading up in syria to right because they're not like one player way like they need to build this thing and if any like they need to get more picks in theory i don't love the idea of moving down your jested. It's like when does it stop when like okay. The training down people are like. Oh you're gonna trade down the spoke at one point. Do you actually like sit there. And make the tick- i would like to stay at twelve to stay there. If they do move up like logically distant looking at the board. I feel like you would have to be a corner. Just because i i not do that to be clear i do not think that's a good idea but i think like if they're making the move up you're getting ahead of dallas in theory and they're probably gonna unless you're training up for an office environment. It's either offensive lineman or quarter. I guess if you're trading up because or if you think dallas is going to trade down at ten which is possible. There's talk about the cardinals trade up. And maybe they're trying to get demonte smith so they would have devante and hopkins and that'd be great would really love that should have been eagles receivers team that can be like the new income bolden styles. You know those cardinals receivers like we all on the eagles so What about you bernie. Like what do you think the they might be. Targeting where should be talking about. Hell no clue. I why. I've like you say sit twelve Trading back in the sense of right maybe it is all. Qb's maybe those alignment or something if they felt like we could move back and still get guy x or whatever we're looking for but Yeah i don't. I don't see why you trade back up after trade back and I just thought maybe there's someone in mind if this guy slips and i love you guys had a few on on one specific guide navy fallen like you said eight or nine or something. I guess it would have to be like. It's right or something like or something like that. Just totally like shocking or sewell. I guess i think so. It could have been there at six during that part of the you know. That's that's the issue where we're trying to make sense of the move so far ahead of Draft right yeah for sure so seems like a tough sell for me. Just i mean. They don't know what we got. Dillard i mean. I think we're all assuming this point not much but you know my ladas interesting I mean i guess maybe more sure. I guess but i feel like pretty comfortable especially on that left side is plan both or how. How do we feel about swollen industries. I think it would start day. One at left tackle. Just plug man. Yeah and melodic your swing guy. Z's display He's played both left. Tackle right tackle. Nazis succeeded a super well both position but is more so a better fit at the backup swing. Tackle position them. Andre dillard well. Yeah dillard exactly. I think just spent so bream right. It's like well coaching backup. He definitely has that coach ability. And how good some good times you could easily just say we're permanently moving uterit- we're gonna coach up from there. I think yeah he be successful there to just dillard obviously was not on the field when he was at right tackle i would be okay kind of with offensive. Line is a trade now. But i don't love it at twelve pending on the board shakes out of course is they trade that and if they get a good offer to trade back i prefer obviously sticking at twelve. I went devante sniff. Let's say he's off the board and there's also a possibility both owners should be off the board by. I don't i'm going to guess one of them is still there. But it's not like impossible that they can both go. I wouldn't necessarily hate A trade back even if one of the corner is still on the board essentially where you're moving to. Let's say like fifteen essentially because the patriots pick there so you're moving back a couple of spots might pick up like what their their third or their second. I don't know exactly what that would be a third costly to go from twelve to nine but That's that's where i'm kind of okay with women in a trade back but not really the most exciting scenario. It's the taking the logical thing out of it for a second what the team should do as actually objectively good. I mean i'd offense aligning or defensive linemen in this year's first round pick that's a sucks like for the excitement level. This is not fun off. it's is not the right. Think about taking if they trade back. Is there a tackle that you'd like they're another attack was projected to go later in the first round are you. You're are you in on various tucker as guard and think he played played tackle. The i i'd be in on tucker as a Like a guy who might be able to do both like maybe like you'd think he can play tackle for you and if not they tried. That left tackle this year. And if he doesn't really work replaces brandon brooks next year. He plays i've left garbage with kicking inside. Yeah or maybe you just feel like he can play all four spots Like you feel that you'd have to feel like he could play pretty much everything sub center and going to be encrypted garrison all got a big man by the way have you seen him now like well like maybe it was just the picture but i was. I was doing a Was posting the the right up for kherson there saw in the indian community mock draft for huge. Like this guy's like a monster. Look up his spider graph. So do that Feel free to riff for me. Do that. On this wider graph. Now i gotcha chief percentile height but seven three one percentile and wingspan fifty percentile with He compares some guys dramatic brown or compares to our boy jeremiah brown board. He goes to mom brown eagles. Best pass rusher last year eagles legend but the browns ronnie brown jamaa brown. Those guys are linked to my head of the like the most like w. two f. plays in the last fifteen years for the. Do you remember why. John brown got caught last year. What was the specific reason. I feel like c. I ask because. I feel like i forgot this. But for some reason i went and looked back yet some articles semester and actually got like cut for contract conduct detrimental to the team. It was it was before the green bay game. I think to there in green bay in. I don't know exactly what he did but he did. Something stupid and played for the other team sean. But that's just like it was some stupid thing like that's what really frustrated me not the only thing but like there was a lot of frustration last year like they couldn't even get the little things right like why were the keeping him on the team at all when like he clearly was trash and they literally could've brought in like any other sprinting. Like so then a guy in camp last year. I can't remember the name off the top of my head but he was like a union unify like bring him in. Because you suck your horrible team. Like brown is terrible upbringing. A guy who is cheaper and younger and like might in theory have more upside than this guy who clearly sucks and then he gets cut anyway. Because he's a bonehead like this team couldn't do the easy things right last year. But keep casey to on the team. Because you're team sucks internet boa freaking out about that. I agree two thousand percent with it. Wasn't about casey to hell. Yeah as player. It was about the process took philosophy. Yes hundred percent and to that point talking about the draft like you see a lot of articles or tweet sort of around this time of year. I think in from robert mays. I'm not trying to shade. Robert means he does a lot of good work but like he said something recently about how the draft is a crafts. You and i'm like it is sure or like no one to drafting some truth to that but there are teams that are definitely like that drafting and like make bad decisions and that was the case with some of these picks legals made clearly in the process in that building. Like it's not like it's not like pick player who everything said about this player. He was going to be good and he just didn't work out. That was the case. I feel like for as much as we're fans and we can be irrational. I think we all look at that and be like well. Okay like they tried Justin jefferson if they took him he sucked. I would not be mad at the eagles. It'd be like well. Everything said about this player us to be good for some reason. I guess he just wasn't it just didn't work out for him but that's not the case here. They're they're picking these players like even just going back to jalen reagor. Last year. i was reading the the bleeding. Grenades dot com post. That i wrote for like the generator. Pick in that Post was scouting report from gil. Brandt that talked about here. Let me find it. Let me find it for you. Because i think it's really like yeah like this wasn't a surprise like this stuff was known brand with yeah I wanna read it here. So i'm gonna pull it up to find it One elijah vera talkers. Mock draft page. Okay cancelled trade down. Target if i could. I could read some of this off Together height sixty i percents. Oh this is just for offensive guards. There isn't an option for him to be amongst offense tapping you do guard or offense on a roll for guards. Sixty first percent down. Thirty fourth percentile. Then test is test extremely well. Athletically ninety first percent vertical jump eighty second percentile and forty yard dash sixty seven percent thailand ten yards split eighty eight percent tile in benchpress. Big strong powerful man. I found the regular thing so just to note as a preface daniel jeremiah. Gil brandt both didn't even have regular in their top fifty prospects and here's the quote. I think it's actually from a scouting you'll bryant but it's the quotas is two thousand. Nineteen tape does raise some concerns even when taking into account. The abysmal quarterback play at tcu. Regular didn't seem committed to selling decoy routes blocking or squeezing every yard out of his opportunities after the cats that last concern came up in olympics as average yards after the catch job considerably over the last three years from seven point. Eight five point nine down to three point. Eight n only broke. A total of five tackles in two thousand nineteen. You can explain some of that way. Arguing poor ball placement but too many times. Reagan was in self preservation mode inside out the sidelines. Guess what. We saw in dylan raiders rookie season last year. Basically all of those concerns like this wasn't like something new. This isn't like oh regular only look that bad last year like no these concerns for their lay translated to the nfl. It's not a surprise. One play from him than sticks out my mind. And i don't want to season the saints game. He how he battled through some injuries wentz. Ozzy wasn't great hurts. Flash little bit was tough. Little smother parts that saints game where they have opened in the middle of fear on the tv screen. There is literally no one on this other than him. He looked like he was running in slow motion. And that's that's the first thing i think of him. Whenever i think of him as a player now is is that play against the saints. Where if he was. This nova rocked up steve. Smith's like you know athletic person that we not that. He's not athletic. You get this buber athlete. He thought he could be it just as harden. I'm also pretty sure you ran out of bounds on that play. Great like think so at the end of the run like he just runs out of bounds. And that like okay. I you know. I think there's a fine line there. There's being smart and not taking dumb hits but out of bounds. It just seemed like a different receiver of doesn't allow pedigree. It should have been you know a forty five yard gain or something like that or a touchdown. He does that quite a bit. 'cause i remember i remember michael kissed even saying that last year when kiss was bad would be gm and doing his our sold out for before he sold out and became a big shot He i remember him saying that like before. He goes even draft jalen rigorous man. I see regularly run out of balance a lot and again i think some of the time make sense but like if it becomes like a feature not a bug a. yet becomes like like a lot of people you know. This is becoming a trend a theme apparent than like. It's happening too much. And i think it is with him and all that is to say like i wasn't trying to i wasn't even trying to be down on. I was talking about like the flaws with the eagles draft process in general Going back to the devante smith of at all like the player you're really excited about was good traits and also you're not trying to explain away like his flaws. I think that's important because you know the regular thing was like oh well. He had a bad quarterback. So we'll actually be good and he ran a four point five at the combine but then he ran a four point two at the protest so he's actually stopped like like you know making these excuses like just pick a player who produces like smith does want to make excuses for him. I want good wide receiver. Man i feel like an idiot. I am bullying things down to the simplest of terms in. Its you know. I feel like i'm gas like myself in. It would be nice. I've said it literally never drafted and developed wide receiver under how it's they have not done. It was bestmark Season since two thousand and four to sean thousand eight given like the entire contributions special teams in mod receiver Maybe it just doesn't thousand eight or two thousand thirteen. I i would argue to sean two thousand thirteen news so good. That you're was like almost underrated. Maybe in hindsight like underrated a- bunks eagles fans given the the messiness of the first departure. The completely underwhelming and disappointing train. Recchi's second tenure here the a shady got all the love for that season because he was the nfl's leading rusher and rightfully so but also guests. Who like probably was facing some of the latest boxes in the league because xactly there was a deep threat. You know best of all time. Yeah is allies. More poor man's devante. Smith is coming from jeremy in the chat. You take okay again if they go corner or non receiver. I'm on him. Thirty seven for word even be interested in a little trade off the problem again. Going back to this is where i was out with it last year like there was some talk last year like oh. The eagles don't need the fairly need to go receiver in the first round because it's such a deep draft and i'm kind of hearing that again this year like the problem with that is though like if you don't take receiver at with your first round pick. It's so obvious. I think you kind of talked about this earlier. She like so obvious. That you're gonna take one with your second round pick right and then if that's obvious to all of us all the other teams know that too and they're going to be like there's probably gonna be a run on receivers before your pick or another team is going to trade up to make sure they get that guy and that's happened to the eagles before that happened with a miko hardman right like yeah. So they wanted and they ended up air tight. They got scooped. The teams traded up right before they picked. Now that's not to say eagles necessarily had to take receiver in what was that like two thousand and nineteen. But i'm saying like when you forecast your needs like that. There could be consequences. That comes out of that. So we go on for over an hour If anyone without the one last request anyone has anything to say or forever. Hold your peace. Jeremy stewart said macklin yet. Macklin was really good in twenty four. But i don't think you had this this juice or are around him. Yeah and like He was a very good eagle. At some good seasons rows. Ten was good and he had maybe the best season of his career in twenty fourteen. But i don't think it was this transformative presence on the team. The way to sean felt those two years in sterling. Not the way te'o out for bad you like manner wasn't wasn't a specific shade to him or anything. Yeah yeah big big. Jimmy method fan Think he's been eagles hall of fame. That's question for a different. Okay matt ryan good guy from from everything i know about them. I did a higher profile on him and the work. He does with the adoption community. When i was interning at the daily news back in the day college very nice to talk to. yeah. I remember like he man. I forget exactly what happened this. He like followed me appoint someone was like crapping on him and i kind of like defended. Well it was like they tag. It was tagged thing image. Tagging is the worst thing in the world but it was like it wasn't even sniffed tagging. Hate i hate tied in there. And i'm like well first of all. Why am i even included in this and defended him And he saw the defy the followed me a little bit early any deny me or something school. It was just like little nice little thing night. Guy from all by all accounts That was a so of our locker room chat. i guess same. Maybe we'll do another one before the draft. I don't know what to do next week. I'm gonna have a many from the bleachers. Come out on wednesday just kind of like you know draft exciting. What are you gonna do for the draft. You know connie your preparation thing. But i'm definitely down to do something going to be. Maybe something during the day on tuesday or wednesday. I think something that would work for me but will schedule that aalyah scenes all right jeremy in the one. We'll try to figure that out this week. It'd be crazy. I don't even know not my schedule. Know scott yet. it's gonna big that yes. 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Friday Conversation: Debbie Antonelli, Broadcaster Extraordinaire

Locked On Women’s Basketball

33:22 min | 10 months ago

Friday Conversation: Debbie Antonelli, Broadcaster Extraordinaire

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They'll go has one point finance packages they'd help you break through your physical or mental wall to built go dot com and use the promo code locked and twenty percent off your next order. The promo code locked gets you twenty percent off your next order at built. Go dot com. And i'm here to talk for a second time. you guys. you didn't hear it for the first time but for the second time this weird so i'm extra privileged to talk to debbie elliott technical difficulties that lost our first conversation to history forever. Debbie am i remembering right that we were sharon with the listeners. The meaning of life we provided the meaning of life in that in that broadcasts that sadly lost right the same that no one will ever get to hear that. Because i think we solved every issue in america. Remember world. Peace to write. Let's not forget world peace of twenty minute mark. Very very disappointing. But the upside. Is you guys. Get debbie antonelli today and with the added benefit of having seen syracuse. Miami when she called last night in syracuse to my mind is one of the most compelling teams in this country not just because of some of the storylines underlying but because of the tower. So just take me through what did see last night. That particularly stood out to you. Well i mean i've had syracuse very high in my poll them at number eleven or twelve I think they're really good. I think talented. they're young. They have some big game experience. They have some in the positions that they need to keep continue to evolve. You know tiana monica. He is one of the best stories and sport not just in basketball and she continues to press a little bit. You know the tian that left At the end of her junior year is not the tiana that we have right now. And there's good reason having battled breast cancer for a year and coming back to play just incredibly amazing so she's a winner every time she laces them up which is pressing a little bit. She's trying to make things for things to happen. I kept saying last night. She's going for home runs hitting for singles and they're they're athletic. They're long when hills. Matt has never had this kind of size on his back row. They're talented. they're going to be really good and they will put it together. That style of play Over forty minutes can wear teams down and they have a lot of so. It's gonna be fun to watch them. Evolve what's interesting to me. You talked about the size and cardozo. Not just that she sit seven but she's so polished relative to age to be doing this as a freshman a really strikes me as an impressive and potentially game changing weapon for them heading into ac conference play. Do you see her something that gives them. Even advantage over. I think back to that twenty sixteen amid the run all the way to the championship game before falling to brand steward yukon and humid size. But they didn't have somebody like cardozo right now. You're absolutely right and you know her. And priscilla williams the other highly touted freshman. The two of them So when he puts priscilla williams at the top of his one. Three one pressure. That's long athletic. Tips deflections and a three point threat. It's like three and d wing is which what we talk about the carmella and the back row Cordoso who is learning how to play through the contact. She's going to be fine. The acc will prepare her for everything that she will need. When we get to the postseason. I i really liked their team. And i know. Donna is going to turn the corner with Turning the ball over. That's not going to be the way she's gonna play in february. But i think you know quentin hilson. Style is a wear down factor over forty minutes. And you've got to play. you know. Sometimes he says they got trust their way into game shape. And i think that's what they're doing right now when you look at someone like tina. She's not just somebody who's put a point guard numbers that are elite. She's put up point guard numbers nobody ever has. I've written about this over at five. Thirty eight that her assists percentage her first full season in syracuse was over sixty percent. Which nobody's ever done. I mean as long as they've measured the stat over the past half decade. No one's ever done that. And the only other person who's had fifty or higher is in her second year at sears. So it's still an inability to find people that isn't just among the best but it's something very few of ever seen now. I know her twin knowles for twenty twenty one or to play for australia. The olympics and to be called her name called in the first round of the two thousand twenty one wnba draft. Do you think it is simply a question of endurance. Where do you think there's other aspects of dame that needs to return or improve in order for her to get to where she wants to be by next spring well first of all. How are you know. I love it when you throw the analytics out and i'm sure you've got those from her stats. Have a great admiration for aaron. And what he's done over there with giving our game some other measures of measurement and analytic to really quantify how good these players are That that's that's really amazing When i when i think about tiana and you know i often talk about the three ws of a good point guard who to get the ball to win and where to answer your question. I think she has that skill. I think it's an endurance and conditioning factor right. Now it's getting your body back after all that she's been through in the last year. I mean when you think about eight. Chemotherapy radiation plus a double mastectomy and reconstruction and to be able to come back and play college basketball. And she's twenty five. I mean she's she's a an college player. I think she is remarkable. I think she will play in the wnba. I don't know how sandy brondello will keep her off the australian national team just because they're so talented and i think she can add And so i think by the time we get february. We have this conversation again. I think we'll see a different player. What did you get out of miami. And you not myers program is one that draws some interesting talents but will. We haven't really seen her do in. That program do is breakthrough we haven't seen for all the inherent advantages. The miami has miami playing in the second weekend of the ncaa tournament. is this team. That has the opportunity to do so. We talked about another year. Where miami's necessarily reaching into the level of the blue bloods A lot of people think the program ought to be our valuate coaches this way. Can they recruit. Can they plan and prepare and practicing game plan and then can adjust katie checks. The boxes on all of those coach meyer and her team is smaller. Quick and athletic very versatile and the way they play and they play hard and you can guarantee that every time they step on the floor. You're going to get the best. That miami can give you now. Miami is missing my kia gray. Who was their starting point guard for three years. Who had an acl injury who's not available this year. That changes a lot of dynamics because now that one person out requires everyone else to change their role and some players playing out of position. So that's an adjustment that takes some time coach. Meyer was able to adjust last year without beatrice mon premier who is out most of the year with an injury and I think She'll justice year. Syracuse is interesting because they opened up the floor of their long and athletic. And they're just not a good matchup for miami has for miami will be fine. I'm not really worried about them. It's interesting the point. You make about mom premier because that program for the past. Several years has been so built around her talents. And so it's not an advantage not to have beatrice mom premier but knowing you don't have are in being able to plan your program. Accordingly has to give you a bit of a leg up just from a planning perspective. I would say to you. Know all good coaches practice without their best player on the floor at times game in case they get in foul trouble or they do have an injury. You have to think in repair through every scenario. And i think you know coach meyer with her sixteen year. Experience at miami in twenty plus years on the sideline is gonna figure it out and You know she's got some veteran guards in the back court last night. It was a matter of making shots. Not getting shot. And you know you gotta make shot to syracuse because of the tempo because you go three empty possessions than they come down and they hit a three and they get a steal off their press and all of a sudden the momentum shifts very quickly so you know they didn't make shots in the second half did miami and i think that was probably the sort of the third quarter where they probably lost again. No question boy. it's just interesting. You think about this miami team. They're going to struggle and this is not a reflection on their own talent but to end up in the top. Half of this as you see which is just so sad with talented is a year that i certainly hope as closely approximates and we were talking about this yesterday. Right as closely approximates a real years possible with the understanding. It's not going to. That's not what we've got in a time figuring out how to play safely around twelve nineteen and as close as we can get to a real years possible has been a really allow us to see this talent shakeout and something that i know. We're both very hopeful about. It also brings out the reality. That is your workload in a given week. Plus and and and even the stays lesson given week you called syracuse miami. Last night thursday night. Our listeners. Today on friday. You're palling tennessee. Texas on sunday. And then you're calling baylor texas tag on monday. I mean it's just there's this consistent and constant ability to be able to go from game to game and broadcast it i just. I wonder how much that's a helpful thing for you Just to get through a difficult year for all of us to be able to engage in. These dame's day after day. Well howard since we've spoken yesterday. My schedule is already changed so just like players and coaches trying to be fluid inflexible Now I will stay on the tennessee texas game on sunday on espn. But i will be moved off the monday game at baylor because i'm going out to the university of pacific to do the stanford pacific game for taurus potential win over pacific and which would Pass pat summits all time. Winningest record so That would be a Tuesday game out on the west coast. And i have a wednesday men's game at home against seal issue men and then i have a louisville women on thursday and then i have pumps in south carolina man on saturday and then i have been women on sunday so some of that is travel. Some of that is home with the home broadcast kit but it's awesome You know. I love that pace. I love that schedule. and I've been doing that kind of pace. I was doing that pace for for years Almost a game every night And it and it's really fun. And i really enjoyed it and i think a lot of people question the sanity of it but When you love it. Like i do and espn asks you to do those games. I'm not saying no. I'm figuring out a way to say yes i you know i. It's not so it's a question of the sanity is. It's just a grateful nation. Thank you. I mean i go back to be going over dame fill and i've got my dvr set. And i did to hear you quality name and just you know it brightens the experience and we talked a little bit about this yesterday. But i i want to share this with our listeners. I want them to know about an experience that that you and i had where i went down to south carolina versus mississippi state Down in starkville and going to an unfamiliar town and you go to a story. And i get to the airport and i did off the plane and you are there at the airport and you're always friendly greeting and made me feel at home right away into this place that you know is is neither of our home but the the road being like a home to you i think Played a pardon it and it was. Just. i'm here to do this story. I'm very excited about in endeavors years where i need to be so that you have been that consistent figure and you've done it throughout your career. You've created a lot of this infrastructure. And i had the risk of asking you to repeat this story i i i wanted talk about and i want to make sure everybody knows what you did at ohio state does that ohio state. The reason why people were able to watch the great katie smith fifth all-time and wind shares in history of the wnba. But before that a great at ohio state and a great ab l. is because of uw. Can you tell that story. Oh i love to tell this story howard thank you for asking me I started my broadcasts. Curious career at the university of kentucky thirty plus years ago and i spent four years as the director of marketing at kentucky. When i got the job at ohio state i was twenty seven and i was the director of marketing in the athletic department at the time the largest athletic department thirty one sports and back in the early nineties. Our budget was like thirty three million. I think ohio states like three hundred and thirty three million now but I my four years at ohio state coincided with katie smith State nancy dr smith. She rest in peace was a great recruiter and signed the number one high school player in the country. I had known katie from. I've seen her player. So i knew how good she was and i went to. We live in a world of fees airline hotels food delivery and especially car dealers. Charge excessive last minute fees. When you want something badly enough it feels like your only choices to pay up. But what if you had a choice to take a stand instead at carbon. We believe in treating you better with zero getting. Ps you can drive off without feeling rippon. that's what it means to live. Feelingly carmona the local cable company in columbus. Ohio and i asked them if they could produce some women's basketball games. They said they didn't know. I said we'll see if you can figure it out and if you can tell me what it would cost and asked the director of marketing at ohio state. I will go out and sell the inventory. Which i did. It was around fifty thousand dollars worth of inventory so i sold fifty thousand dollars of advertising so we could do eight women's basketball games. And it allowed me selfishly. Stay on my parallel track do Being athletic director one day but also a fuel this passion. I have for basketball. So i was able to stay in my lane doing my job as director of marketing and i also was able to create an opportunity where i could continue to stay on the air calling games so we sold that package I worked in reported directly to archie griffin. The only two time heisman. Trophy winner at ohio state whose name may arguably be right. Up there with jack nicklaus I think You know taking archie. On some of those sales calls made it really easy to get people to say yes because nobody says no to archie griffin columbus and It it actually added an opportunity for faint. John arena at the time and for ohio. State women's basketball to continue to grow and howard. That's not the only thing i did. I created this tv network. There's another piece of the story two more pieces of it. We'll give you all the detail. But i did give away a car at halftime of a game somebody was gonna leave the arena with a car. And there's a wonderful story behind how i put that promotion together. I also created corporate hospitality opportunities in In our indoor practice facility that was attached to saint john arena at at ohio. State was Opportunity for me to sell what. I call like tailgate experience at women's basketball i had white picket fence catering and i would go to companies and i would sell you know. Here's two hundred tickets biden plus catering. Here's a menu and you can take your client and entertain them before women's basketball and then we have the super secret tunnel underneath from french fieldhouse. Who say john arena. It's going to bring us up right by the women's basketball locker rooms when the team runs out and then you're going to be a gift coaching and on the bench and we're gonna package all this together. That was another thing that i get. Try to get corporations in columbus which there are a lot that have their headquarters in columbus ohio to try to entertain their clients. That women's basketball young thing. I did too is. Wb ns. radio was our flagship affiliate for ohio state. Sports and i was responsible for those contracts and those affiliate contracts through our affiliate relationship program who wins at that time at ohio. State mrs in the early nineties if you wanted to be an affiliate girl higher fake for fallen carry the buckeyes regionally on your local in lima ohio or in cleveland. Ohio in sandusky. Ohio or athens ohio wherever the affiliate was you were required in your contract to take half the men's basketball schedule if you wanted to be an affiliate through ohio state football you had to carry heart medicare half but when i got in there i said well wait a second. What about half the women get. Why aren't the women involved in contract contracts as they expired started asking affiliates to take half the women scheduling. I didn't care which games you pick. You could take whatever inventory you want. I wasn't gonna micromanage that part of it. Make whatever you want whatever you can sell now of course. A lot of them took the bigger big ten games that you know would have some more appeal to them. And i created a fifty five nate wide radio network for ohio state when this basketball often football in it it wasn't as hard as it sounds. It was somewhat of an easy fix so today. Having done all those things in the early nineties which i'm really proud of because the corporate hospitality the ability to give away a car creating television network and a radio statewide radio network all during katie smith. Time really allowed to push and promote women's basketball's the highest level in the big ten. Which at that. Time the league this year too but it was really good back then also tend. I'm really proud of those efforts. Cowards because you know i that's the lens through which i see products and so if i may you know the floor he Marketing product price. Promotion play. this is why i feel so strongly about pushing our game forward on the offense gate because that's how our product needs to be sold. It needs to be named through an often seemed like it's exciting and needs to be effective efficient productive high scoring if you go into a grocery store and you have an end cap and it has a product on it and you have a two for one price on the product for you have a lower price on the promotion and the product is indivisible spot where you can't miss it where you walk into the store. Debt product is not any good. You are not going to buy it. So i don't die. Best practices for strategic plans or white papers anymore in our game. I was doing those things in the mid ninety and right now we have a great product of the women and we have got to figure out the right economic model in the right way to push our game forward to sell it. If i was doing those things in the ninety with before we had social media and the visibility of the tv and the things that we do have today. There's no reason why those things can't be happening in other places and they are happening in other places there are places where look what south carolina has done. Look what oregon has done in boosting their attendance support for did mississippi state. I mean there are places besides uconn in tennessee that if you know over history has somewhat carry the attendance base of our game. I think that you know there are things that people need to do. Anything start working to do it. You can't just go to the civic club be and that's important but you've got to be created you've got to find ways to create inventory that people are interested in and then you can sell it and that's why i feel so strongly about often because that would sell so a couple. I mean. there's a lot to unpack there and at the risk of denigrating yesterday's show which was hall of fame level. Shown will live on in our memories forever but you got into even greater detail today about what you did and it matters because it systematic right. I mean the reason why what you've done for the women's game is so important is because you attack it in this systematic way and so i just want to unpack a few of those things as we're thinking about them because like you said there are some places where this is happening now but that was twenty five thirty years ago and it's the exception rather than the rule in the women's day and there's a lot of different reasons for that both look at what you've done at ohio state back then and what it means. Now you're looking at things not just from. Do we have a product in the women's game. That is exciting is something to people wanted to see. You're connecting you're providing the connective tissue between the broadcast between the program themselves. And your saying right. Why not the women's names you introduce talking about the women's team into that conversation. And then we're leveraging what is existing sports relationships and properties whether it's an archie griffin in somebody you know extraordinarily well known who is able to lend his name in leverage dat whether you're talking in terms of the product themselves. Everyone knows the ohio state. Football inventory and suddenly you attach women's basketball to it and people are introduced to the product is well. You're providing a service. Where are everyone wants to come there. And they're seeing the businesses and the local businesses as well and you're providing that extra while factor of all-mandarin people can come win a car in the process entertainment excitement and then most of all you built it around some lady. Katie smith who people wanted to see people ended smith to this day. I remember we were out the final four hundred investor couple years ago and katie smith was. She's the mayor of that town. Whatever she wants to be the mayor of columbus but part of that happens because of what the work that you did to make sure that everyone is able to see her on television was able to hear her on the radio across the state and so all of which is to say. There's not a magic formula to to promote the women's name and to make sure that people understand the quality of the women's name any different than there is on the same other than to make sure that you said that people see it and use your supermarket analogy. We know the product is something people want to see. It's just a matter of getting those end caps and making sure that they are there. And so i i say that by way of looking at some things that you are doing even at the moment that i think reflects that there are two things i want to spotlight and one of them. The fact that i said. Sign your own time through your own work. You are creating these minute. Loan promos effectively for players and so one of them is play. Your call the dame four on sunday and showed collier someone who we both think very highly of an both. I didn't see a significant entertainment factor in the way in which she plays. There's no question howard. I'm the the one minute. Video clips are edits. That i put together i On broadcast love to tell us straight. I think it's one of my favorite things inside. A game is to teach and to show and highlight the skill set. The i q the work ethic to read all those things that players do at a very high level in the women's game. And you know my efforts are always about trying to promote the game so Brian mckay my producer on my podcast. Also is The person who edits all my cliffs who does all the painting through coach fate as phenomenal job of working with me. And what i'm trying to do is essentially. It's it's what. I call hashtag ticket-selling selling player. Would you buy a ticket you know. In a normal year you would buy a ticket to go see this player. Play lose players exciting. They have an often skill. Set that you wanna see. It's entertaining and it's fun. They play inside a concept usually in their team that helps their team win and You use the term wind shares. You know we like to say plus minus There's a lot of ways you can evaluate a measure. But basically what i'm doing is trying to promote our game through the players that are essentially the ones that Make the game exciting. I mean it is the players that make the game exciting and and breaking down there. Clips is something. That's fun for me to do and i'm going to. I'm my goal is to do over one hundred players this year. And you know honestly. I've had some coaches hit me up with when you're going to do my player and i'm like you're on the list. I will do your player for sure. Because i wanted to grow like that where people start seeing and i've got a an end game in mind for all these clips and we'll see if i can pull that off but I'm excited to do. And i appreciate you recognize it and i know the players appreciate it. Of course you have an endgame for of course there's again. It's always the way you do things so i'm not surprised but obviously really excited about it and the other thing i'm really excited about today is the fact that you've you're back in the podcast name and just you know by by means of contexts. I've been at this for a few years now. But i am conscious. I'm aware of those who have paved the way and have opened up this space. And before lockdown women's basketball you had the podcast. Was beth mullins. That is extremely popular. And so the fact that you're back with a new podcast is something in a year where we've had a is taken away. This is something that's been given to us at some. I cannot stress enough. If you listen to this podcast go listen to a beggar. Podcast which is ws five out but nobody tell tell people why and how and it's just i. It's just such a thrill to see that happening once more. I really really the coaches and the players in our game and it's three sixty five all year round. Twenty four seven here from a It's my career and my passion. You know raising my three boys in an environment where i've been able to live out my career calling games. All across the country is just been absolutely amazing. And i am grateful for all the opportunity and the people that have believed in me especially my management team at espn and then you know my opportunity to work for cbs on the men's tournament as well. But it's specifically to the podcast I beth moans and i had a five-year run. We had a great run. It was really fun and one of the two of the things that are really missed from. The podcast were The live show. We had at the final four and we had four years of a live. Show bars in the back. Eight hundred two thousand fans run of show with coaches players all american skits videos. You know we. We had a blast. It was exactly what you would think it would be was just really fun. Entertainment party kinda like or or show kind of like jimmy. Kimmel or jimmy fallon doodoo. You would say our show is like. And then i missed the after party because we always threw a big party afterwards. Just like you would expect when you go to a show. You have the after party and we called it the step over the newspaper party and that was because in my younger days at the final four i literally sometimes would be networking in the lobby so long. That might step over my newspaper that was delivered at my hotel door on my way back into my room. So it would. Just be the labor of love for a long time. But i really think again highlighting the personalities the iq the work ethic of the people in our game and how they fit Inside our game and taking a deeper dive into some teams some personalities and i had a young broadcaster say to me. You know that this person he remembered. Shoot around with nothing. Debbie and he. He always enjoyed listening because he gained some information about teams. Because we talked about breaking down the game and He he said he he sort of missed it. Because he didn't feel like there was a place that he could get that kind of information and that sorta was the final straw for me to decide to give it a go. And so i'm giving it a try you know. I don't want it to be a long drawn out podcast. I don't want it to be a lot of you know only just me talking i. I liked the interview from people in our game. And i've had some interesting people on so far and i'm just going to keep working and we come. It's very exciting. And it's an opportunity to listen to you as well which you know again. I say this. I speed from obviously the bias of having a you know a lot of affection for you anyway but anybody knows who spend any time with you to listen to you about the dame is to learn about the game and so i know all of us are grateful for the additional opportunity to be able to do that. And for all of the time that you put in a systemic level to change and grow this game so Thank you and again. I just think it's symptomatic of who you are that we recorded this podcast. There's technical difficulties. Let's do it again. And so as busy as you are few to take the time really means a lot at wwdc. No really thank you for everything. Howard thank you for inviting me. Thank you for always thinking about me. Appreciate your kind words and you know. We're all trying to push the game forward to doing. You've heard all-stars rejecting the screen. You've heard hall of fame journalists on rejecting the screen. 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Heartland Newsfeed Radio Network

5:01:00 hr | 2 years ago

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"Goal you're laughing through the entire time. She's getting your point across but she's got a smile on her face. <hes> and it was really a lesson in media. I mean you should take that that clip at thirty minutes and you know give it to students who are going into the media is like that is how you own a press conference right there and also a how can the United States Soccer Federation justify and even the World Federation justified the lack of equal pay for the women. When I saw the disparity I shook my head and I was angry? So how can they justify that well what U._S. offer says is most of that disparity comes from the fee for bonuses pay to U._S.. Soccer so because fee for argues and they do they make so much more money on the men's game they pay that much more money for the men's results and for the men's team to qualify for a World Cup and however they they do all that bonus on the men side is exponentially greater so what U._S. soccer says is will we're just passing on the bonuses that fee forgive us because they give so much less for the women we can't pay the women as much but with the women I'm in say is well if she had been actually promoting the game like their mission says they should as a national in government international governing body of the sport where their mission is to grow the game for all then the women's game would be making a lot more money is just that they've been neglected for so many years so they you know we. We've talked about systemic discrimination for a long time so it's it's it's going to be interesting one because clearly they have the public they have the narrative they have. They've won four of the eight World Cups and they have public opinion on their side as they go into this argument and they take it to the courts <hes> but I don't know how legally there will with so much of that fief of money coming into play and what they'll say about that fever distribution and they in the inequity and involved in that let me share with you an incident on the show I say it's and it was a discussion open lines and I had a question of do female coaches in college deserve the same thing that male coaches do and when they coached the same sport and a lot of the reaction than I got on that Julie was well. The men's sport generates more money just like what you were just saying and everything. I said I'll tell you what take two coaches and give one who take two people that are you know are plowing a field and you give one mule and you give the other one attract or which one do you think is going to do. The better job and I think you know I was aiming at. It's the same thing exactly if you're not going to give them the tools then you can't really make that argument. That's your argument for failing not their argument and that's going to be interesting because I think <hes> you know all along U._S.. Soccer there has said Hey. It's not us it's it's fee for that pays out these bonuses and the frustrating thing from the players perspective Megara Pino touched on this in this in his last press conference. I was just referencing. Is that although faith as well. We've doubled the prize money we're giving to the women you know. The winner of the World Cup of two thousand fifteen for the women got two million in the winter in two thousand nineteen gets now four million but the total prize money given to the women into the men the gap has actually expanded so although they're giving the women more they're getting them in that much more money so the gap is actually growing rather than narrowing so <hes>. I do think that U._S.. Soccer has made tremendous strides from our days when we were playing <hes> but I think now the challenges how do you get the rest of the world to start shifting that in that direction because clearly fief is not there yet and so many of the purse strings are tied up in Asia. That's going to be the next battle. One of the things that I appreciate it about this. Year's edition of the Women's national team was they really changed a lot of things did they not style wise and the way they played played the game and attack the game and I thought it was just amazing to see them. You know change everything around for this particular women's World Cup will they kept saying you know as they were the defending champions that every time you'd ask him about out coming in as defending champions they get a little bristling and they'd be like we're not offending anything. We're attacking. We're attacking this next World Cup like all right. I get that you all the defending champion. They're like no half this team that won the World Cup. We're attacking yeah. You could see it every single game. They played and talk about coming out of the game. You always WANNA start a game strong but there I actually their entire World Cup minus the final the longest took the U._S.. Team to score was twelve minutes they were coming out on their front foot and not stopping and that's the thing about this group that was so impressive is one. They were deeper than we've ever seen. A U._S. is team <hes> and clearly they had more talent more fitness more debt than any other country out there so to get through five European teams and we saw how good the European teams were in this tournament to win the World Cup <hes> art with them special. Julie Foudy is with us. I've known her for a long time respected her all along that time U._S. National Team Center fielder who was inducted into the national soccer hall of fame and she continues to give back to the sport of soccer and you're involved love with allstate all America. That's a program. Tell everybody what that program is. Well it's really cool because all stay started this America Cup where they're bringing the top forty high school boys and the top forty high school girls and they're bringing them to Orlando to play around the M._L._S. All Star game to have their all American games so there's shining a much-needed spotlight on high school sports in high school soccer which the soccer community is Turnley grateful for and then on top of that Brandy chastain my former teammate ron is you know got naked when she scored in the nineteen ninety nine World Cup. She is the coach on the other side of me so the trash doc is not stop breath. I'm going against her team and then on the men's side is Taylor twelve men and Brian McBride so <hes> for four players play at the highest level when who of all loved playing in high school as well so it's it's a real honor for us to be able to represent you know these fourteen for allstate and <hes> and support what they're doing because they literally started with. I mean they scoured the the nation two hundred fifty boys and girls they found and then they will bill that down to the eighty that are going to join us and we get to spend a few days out in Orlando so I can't wait and they're from all across the country so it's going to be great fun. We only have a minute left <hes> about the deep roots of youth soccer. How how deep are they? How much deeper are they doing? What they were say four years ago we got we have more girls and boys playing in this country and especially on the girl side? I mean that's why we've been so successful on the live inside is because we just have millions of girls playing so <hes> that has always been our biggest advantage and you know a lot of that is due to title nine and the Great Support we have in this country for girls playing sports and we see what it creates a create strong women and strong society ready so can't say enough about what we've done in this country for women's sports in about forty seconds any one memory come out of the women's World Cup that you think back about it that you'll never forget <hes> that I toss ably Ron Ron eight my way over so in other words you couldn't qualify. You couldn't qualify for the women's team because you couldn't run up. The field are yeah yeah you do not WanNa see me after month in France. I've been good living okay by me over there. I know what you mean. I've got family that are French and I've done the same thing a couple of times Julie as always your dear friend and you're welcome here anytime congratulations on this program from allstate. All America look forward Lord. It's going to be during the M._l._S. All Star Week this summer in Orlando Florida take care my friend. Thanks Julie Foudy with US again former U._S.. National Team Center midfielder WHO's been inducted into the national soccer hall all of fame and of course she's a two-time World Cup champion herself we continue across the country and around the world glad you could join us as we continue with more of you and America's sports talk show attention the business owners now is the perfect time to start saving money on your cable TV bill for Your Business we can give you packages with up to ninety gray channels and save your business at ton of Gash and if you call right now you can learn how to get free equipment and free installation. Now you have choices. 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Where else did he play while he started out in the U._S.? F. Alley came out of U._C._L._A.. Just an outstanding offensive tackle and he played with the chiefs jets rams and Falcons as well as the oilers in the N._F._l.. But he started out played three seasons in the U._S._F._l.. With The Philadelphia and Baltimore Stars and two of those years they won the league championship and then of course he jumped lived over to the national football league so we'll spend a little bit of time with Irv eat men and then right after that Archie Griffin is going to be with us the only time winner of the heisman trophy back in one thousand nine hundred seventy four seventy five he is also a member of the College Football Ball Hall of fame a all American at Ohio state and I think that Woody Hayes paid in the highest compliment and saying about Archie Griffin. He's a better young man than he is a football player and he's the best football player I've ever seen glad you join us. 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Here's Rod bar IRV even joining joining us on sports byline of course play professional football for fourteen seasons eleven those in the National Football League as an offensive tackle with the chiefs the jets the rams the Falcons and also the oilers and also he's an instructor for the football university versus and we'll be talking about the football university in a second here but you know one thing I had forgotten about your career. IRV is that it did not start in the national football. It started in the United States football league. How did you end up going there instead of the N._F._l.? First of all most of my friends just found out over thirty by you mentioning U._S._F._l.. Well I I tell you what US actually the second person asked me about that today and other person we would just casual conversation but <hes> when the U._S. Bill came along and they explain the concept to me <hes>. I thought you know this may be interesting. I mean because the situation where the season went basic from February two July so you had all your irregular holidays off <hes> you were done before it got really too too hot and hell he went training camp in Florida. So I mean <hes> I mean it was a lot of things about as appealing and plus. I like the idea I thought it had a chance to work and I and I wanted to be a part of that and I think it would have worked had had not been for a couple of people that kind of pushed league in the wrong direction but <hes> I thought it was a fabulous idea and I and I also thought if it didn't work always go back and do what I originally planned to do was an n._f._l.. You team out of U._C._L._A.. Outstanding career there you go to the Philadelphia Adelphia Baltimore's stars and you win the U._s. n._F._l.. Titles in both eighty four and eighty five and you played with a friend of mine the head coach there Jim more now. I knew Jim at the University of Washington when he was an assistant coach under Don James Up there and I and he's always been very very fiery. What was he likes his head coach in professional football well okay? I'll just give you a quick personal story. Okay herb even sounds a little late. You know I am the first round draft pick and all you know so I can do right so I've flat on a training camp and <hes> this. How do the League was? They didn't have shoes for me because you know I got big feedback seventeen eighteen or whatever so they don't have then I have shoes for me so I'm out there and my literally my seekers so it raises the day before and it's it's a mess so I'm sliding all over the place. I'm Kinda chip to it so jim wars is hey stop. Stop the whole practice he goes. Even I don't give a bleep ward round you read through draft. If you don't get going out with run your big ASS Outta here and the whole teams going you know so these are the same from that point on it set the tone what Jim what was going to be like the head coach and <hes> you know and he still still the favorite coaches I played for <hes> to this day and every time I see G._M.. Always give them big hug and and kind of reminded US story but <hes> he had to do some stuff to me and his attitude real early. You know I find it interesting because there are two ends of the spectrum as you know from when it comes to coaches Irv there is the coach that is like Jim Mora kind of in-your-face. Let you know if you're not doing it right and then there's the other end of that spectrum somebody like a bum phillips and even his son now with the Dallas cowboys cowboys who's kind of laid back and and treats players in a way in which hey you're responsible for your actions act like it which one works in which one do you find are. Do you think generally speaking professional football players appreciate and and play better for well. You know I'll I'll say I'm all school so I was raised by mom that you know you didn't do you didn't do you got hitting the mouth. That's all school now. It's like you know they send you get therapy and and all that kind of stuff so which I can't relate to but <hes> but I think as a man and as a football player you know you want someone else to push you to your limit. If you could do it yourself you wouldn't need a coach and you know and I know and plus but back in the day when guys like bomb and all that with pretty much easygoing attitude the different with bomb was first of all as far coaches like do nowadays you know and also I think players had a little different attitude about them because you you had to play to get paid and to get you know so now you don't have to play pay just have to sign the contract so you know that Renault Twenty million dollars signing bonuses in not even a real for for the most part before the new collective agreement there were no real major sonnen bosses so guys had to play in Games. They get paid so you know you'd have some longevity. They get paid but now these guys get one kicking the can eh like hey man. You know I'll be longer than you so just whatever so it's a different mentality. Now I call it the microwave and talented now everybody wants to right now <hes> and they don't WanNa do very much to get it and that's not disparage any player not because a lot of very good players that are very dedicated but I'm talking about the ones that seem to want to think it's about them and and the great thing about sports is never about you because I was always told players when I tried to look you know what if you drop dead right now that uniform wouldn't even can get dirty for somebody else so it's really never about you. That's a great thing about sports. There's always somebody else and that's what I always like about the game itself. I know you were an offensive line coach with a couple of teams in the N._F._l.. And so I can ask you this question can both as a former coach and also a former player that played double digit years. I've often wondered how the professional athlete who has already gotten into the professional football ranks and proven themselves feels about somebody who has signed guaranteed contract. That's GONNA get him thirty forty million dollars guaranteed when they haven't even proven themselves because motivation pride professional pride is really an important factor when it comes to the pro athlete well you know and I can only speak from perspective but I'll say this. I've never regretted what someone else I mean somebody wants to walk up at hand you <hes> thirty million dollars being raw bar and you haven't done anything well. Hey Rob. You know wait for you. I think as a stupid way to do business I mean because I mean you wouldn't walk into law firm as a first year <hes> attorney and they say you know but I'll tell you what we're gonNA. Give you ten million dollars right now and then you go see how many cases you win for us and then when you win thirty or forty cases. We'll do it all over again. It doesn't make sense but that's what that's what they do visit N._F._l.. And I promise you up if they took it okay yeah. I'll give it thirty million dollars but I'll give it to you and your five when you start X.. Number Games and you had performed X. number level. I give me thirty million dollars. I guarantee you attrition. Rate would be a lot lower N._F._l.. IRV Eastman with us here on sports by line. We're talking a little football with a veteran who played fourteen years in both the U._s._F._l.. And the National Football League when you take a look at the professional athlete and I made the statement a number of times on the air that there is a professional pride that one of the greatest motivation for athletes across the board now remember Michael Jordan I talking about this is the fear of failure. How does it motivate an athlete well when when when you're an athlete in particularly the professional level <hes> any low but when you're professional athletes were not only is that your ultimate challenge of physically and mentally but it's also how you earn your living okay so you so if you've got other people counting on you <hes> to be successful and you kind of yourself to be successful plus from Disa- personal standpoint always you came athlete is because he wanted to challenge yourself to be the best you can be? There's a great deal of pressure because quite quite honestly you can't fail. I mean because really everything is measured by your performance and not on a six month basis where you get a review is on the six day basis because every time you play is measure and so from one week you could be great things and it's one week in the next week you could be on the streets and I don't think really for the most part and not certainly not diminish any other job but most jobs aren't like that. Let's be let's let's be fair about most jobs in America. If you show up every day and you know keep your nose clean and every six months you know you show up your review all right. I mean for the most part less less entire business goes out of you know on there but for the most part on a personal basis if if you show up and do basically do what you're supposed to be fine <hes> and now again I I'm not looking for any kind of special. You know condolences just because it's professionally chose but that's that's a fact. There's a very difficult profession to to stay in when I take a look at H._B._O.'s hard knocks which I just love. It really gives you a feel what it's like behind the scenes in inside the game and there's such mind playing in other words trying to push the right buttons on the player to get the most out of them. I watch how now some of the young players need to be kicked in the bud or even. Some of the veterans challenged in some way it does that have to go on in order to get the most out of a player. Do you think I think as human beings. I don't think that's the problem going back. We're talking about what about the excessive <hes> bonuses ahead of time I mean before they've done anything. I don't think that you can give a human being a carrot and then go run the race. We're just not put together that way. I mean we're program to work program. I'm to survive and we're at our best pressure. We got about thirty seconds left. 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It's been awhile since we caught up with Archie Griffin and since the last time we talk with the two time heisman trophy winner has been inducted into the College Football Hall of fame and also is an associate athletic director at his Alma Mater you know as I was reading through the notes on you archie you went to high school there in Columbus Ohio that can be a boon or it can be a vein uh-huh for a kid to grow up in the town and then have to go to go to college there. What was it like you? Oh well. I certainly enjoyed <hes> my grown up here in Columbus Ohio and certainly high school <hes> a lot of fun <hes> played at East more high school here in Columbus Embassy and we've got a lot of success Eddie Spore and and after leaving each more certainly recruited by another different colleges in Ohio state being one of them and when you live in Columbus Ohio and Ohio state calls. It's Kinda hard hard to say no and I'm sure glad that I didn't say no because sure enjoyed my <hes> four years as a student athlete ahead Ohio State University and you know I I haven't fallen very far from the tree because <hes> now I'm back at Ohio State University Diversity <hes> certainly <hes> spent Mattamy Athletic Department <hes> work there for about nineteen years and and now actually I'm presidency or how University Alumni Association and so I've <hes> I guess I've come <hes> full circle and have uh spent most of my working days <hes> certainly in Columbus Ohio at Ohio State University. Thank you for updating me on that because I had read something about that sometime ago and hit forgotten because I knew you'd been in the Athletic Department for a number of years. What was that? How old were you? The first time you went into the horseshoe. When I went into the horseshoe I must have been <hes> probably about <hes> maybe thirteen years old <hes> actually even even younger than that because when I first win Horseshoe House running junior under Olympics track and and we ran that at Ohio Stadium and <hes> so I had to probably <hes> be probably eight or nine years old running junior Olympics track and <hes> and then and then that was a big big place when you eight nine years old and going to stadium <hes> that big but first time watching a football game <hes> probably somewhere around thirteen didn't get to see the whole game because I kind of hung around the stadium a little bit and and there was an opening and and <hes> couple friends walked in and salt <hes> the end of a game? I'm sure it made an impression for that place to be rocking and rolling on a Saturday afternoon as you were a kid and you looked at that and you probably did say these. Did you not R._G.. Someday I hope I the experience of running into the stadium. You say that but you think you know this is probably something that that won't happen for me but it would be nice if it would happen and Lo and behold <hes> that opportunity presented itself Ron and and you know I it's it's one of those situations where you just can't say now especially when Woody Hayes is doing recruiting I mean he thought he was a great recruiter. He was a guy that would get you saying Yes yes yes and all of a sudden he asked her. You're GonNa come the house outfit. You're still saying yes and then you and <hes> and I was glad he did that way because <hes> i. I'm glad that I went to the Ohio State University. I've talked to Lou Holtz about woody and the one thing I did not know about him is that he was a guy liked a war strategy that a lot of his game plans were based on some of the books that he had read about generals and the way they strategized for guys in particular Geno Patton. You know I think our whole goal line series <hes> what was named after George Patton Patent One through six we named him and when we would go last situation and at the land of scrimmage <hes> quarterback WANNA call automatic he'd say patent Lon Patent to always through patent six and you knew what each of those plays were and uh yeah he he he really really <hes> did a lot of his <hes> strategizing off of <hes> general I mean what he was a big military history and <hes> he knew it inside out that first game that you played played what happened on the I carry. Oh the first place that I carried the first Game Against University of our my freshman year nineteen seventy-two it was the first the freshman Welsh boy and <hes> I got a couple of minutes to go into game all excited added in thinking that was my big shot and <hes> got there was so excited that forgot to look the ball in fumbled the football and <hes> I was taken out and <hes> but thank goodness the next game <hes> was home game also also because the only reason I dress that game was because it was a home game coach as a lot of everybody's addressed but that next game was a home game against University of North Carolina and <hes> even though I didn't go to the hotel the night before with the team I got a shot in the first quarter in that game and and <hes> and ended up breaking a record rest for two hundred thirty nine yards so <hes> it was shocked me to get into game had no idea is going to get in that game but I did and I counted as a blessing and <hes> so thankful for that opportunity coming in Atlanta because that really was a springboard to my football days at your house that university now in one thousand nine seventy. If I'm not mistaken they played the T. formation at Ohio state played a lot of people mason what we all called it the robust formation when you had <hes> certainly to have accent fullback and and we basically were <hes> full-back oriented team at the time and <hes> the year that I came seventy two we put in some high formation plays Jason and that's really of where I got <hes> my my my my real starting we started running from that. I formation from not formation halfbacks responsibilities. I would mostly bought blocking responsibilities and also when I think about Pete Johnson was he was he there the last couple years when you were there pete where he was there. Three years that I was at Ohio state he was a year behind me in school yeah and the reason I say that because you guys eventually hooked up with the Cincinnati at any bengals did you not oh yeah yeah. We played together <hes> three years or House aide in another six <hes> with the bengals a lot of people don't understand but that tandem of fullback tailback is really. I think one of the most important tandems that you'll find finding sports. How did it work with you and Pete? How did you guys coalescence come together as a unit because I was watching some old film back when they showed <hes> the Michigan Michigan Ohio state rivalry it was just amazing to see you guys work together? Ah Pete night we knew each other very well and <hes> and <hes> I count on Pete and I like to feel that he could count on me and you had to count on a whole lot when he came to a blocking and he did a wonderful job of that because you you might move Pete Pete in in in college wait about two hundred fifty two hundred fifty five pounds and pull back back then I mean that's that's pretty pretty good size and and those linebackers didn't really appreciate to and fifty five pound four back <hes> running especially one that had it <hes> Pete speed because not only was p big but pete was fast and <hes> he blocked well. He carried a ball. Well I mean he really was your prototype. <hes> fullback I mean he really was outstanding. Pull back and I was fortunate to have my opportunities that Ohio state to to play <hes> with him and really you know when I when I look at the whole situation I really fortunate all the way around because we had an outstanding <hes> backfield in general and certainly smile standing guide on the line but backfield mainly consisted of Pete Johnson <hes> Canadian Screen Brand Bash Nagel and myself and all those guys <hes> had terrific games <hes> during the course of our careers at Ohio. Oh how state there were a few times if you can believe it's not that at all four of US arrest for over one hundred yards and that included the quarterback <hes> so you can just imagine <hes> the the backfield that we had if the time when I think about that Era Archie and I think of Woody Hayes I think both Sham Boeckler. I think a bear Bryant there's a commonality between those three guys and coaches that were like them even Bobby Bowden as I think of today Joe Paternal turn one. What is it about those names one of my looking for that? Is that commonality among those coaches greatness. I mean that's it in a nutshell. <hes> those guys that you named <hes> happened or still are great coaches. I mean <music> <hes> when when you look at <hes> <hes> the guys you name I think one of the characteristics that that freely is common amongst them is the fact that they all cared a great deal about the players <music> on their teams and they would do anything to help them <hes> be successful and I think that's an ingredient that that that helps make successful <hes> coaches and successful leaders and I can certainly say that about Woody Hayes I mean I I would say that he was a fabulous football coach <hes> but more importantly he was a man who cared about people and and <hes> that's what impressed me most because that's the kind of thing that made sure <hes> that I was GonNa perform him that I was GonNa bust my tell each and every play but that man because I knew that he cared about me and I think I can say that about each of those coaches that you named their players will tell you that they cared a great deal about them. <hes> not only football players but also as a young man and young man who they wanted to be successful and life as well as football. We got about forty five seconds before we have to break archie but I also think the other thing was they were great motivators. They seem to know how to punch the buttons on their players and get the most of them out about no question about that. I loved <hes> being in the locker room with with the coach as 'cause he could get you fired up. He knew how to <hes> <hes> press that but that would get you going to make sure that <hes> that that you PLO playing with all the emotion that you need to play a successful football game with he knew how to get ready to matter of fact he would practice all week long to get you ready Saturday. I mean he was saying one thing one day another thing the next day but then come times the game he pulled all those things together and have it in one speech before you go out complain that game and when he's pulled together you'd readily view be ready to knock the doors down going out on that Field Archie Griffin joins us on sports byline the two-time heisman trophy winner. We continue with bore view America's sports talk show. Are you aware that sixty six percent of men lose their hair by the age of thirty five. If you do want to keep your hair by the time you notice is starting to go. It's too late and so the solution to this is four hymns dot com a one stop shop for hair loss skin care and this one's for you Mike Sexual Wellness well-known generic equivalence name brand prescriptions which can help you keep your hair. 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Did on the great rivalry and I think that rivalry the which games I mean they're all special obviously to the people that are involved in but when you think back on them which were the ones that gave you the goosebumps even today archie the one that gave me <hes> the most goosebumps says would be the last Michigan game <hes> that I played in <hes> and it really wasn't a great game for me personally <hes> but it was a game that that comes to mind because that was a game that <hes> Michigan Michigan baby out playing most of that football games and we were down in that game fourteen seven with probably about four five minutes to go in the football game and <hes> I'll never forget how offense had not been playing well really not playing coming up to our potential but we'd needed to have drive or with the four minutes or so to go on the game and quarterback Camis Green called us together office team. When we got the football and instead let's say a prayer and we said a brief prayer and all we it was asked to Lord to have the plate to the best of our abilities and I'll never forget it? Kinda just pulled everybody together because we started moving the ball up and down up to field and ended up scoring and we tied game up fourteen the fourteen and then Michigan got desperate because if we would've tied them in that game they would've sent us back to the Rosebowl we had gone the three previous years and this would have been four straight years for us to go to the Rosebowl so Michigan didn't want us going drills both started passing and <hes> they threw a pass and my younger brother Ray picked picked it off and and ran down to about three yard line and then big P. Johnson <hes> ran it in from the three and we ended up winning game twenty one to fourteen and that's the game it really sticks out in my mind because we had to come from behind and that was at Michigan and they had a big record going at that time <hes> that they hadn't lost in a game in their stadium in about four year for maybe even five years <hes> and again they had tied with US nineteen seventy-three but they hadn't lost a game there <hes> so <hes> we broke that record <hes> that day <hes> and that stadium and they also had an accomplishment for them because that was the one hundred yard streak <hes> cease because they kept me under one hundred yards that day but that's the game that really sticks out in my mind because of the comeback <hes> victory that we had I've always found archie as I've talked with the fans about the great rivalries that their perspective of what makes great rivalry in sport is different from the athletes who actually play it so having said that <hes> knowing your teammates <hes> those that played in that great series against Michigan. What was that made that rivalry stand out in sports? Well you know for us. <hes> at the time you know a lot of Ohio players played at Michigan but you had a big part of their roster well how state Ohio <music> <hes> players from Ohio and and these were guys that <hes> <hes> you know what he wanted and certainly we had guys at bowl wanted <hes> so you know we knew each other and for me in for a lot of members of the members on my team you know there was one article that came out during the time that I play the dentist Franklin <hes> The quarterback in Michigan. He was a great quarterback in Michigan. <hes> he made a statement state <hes> he said only Goodwin's go to Michigan and <hes> you know how what he was he was thick that statement and he would put it on our bulletin board and it was their whole for years dollars. That'll how say that I can tell you that and that that that statement you know it got us fired up <hes> but the fact that that we were touching states <hes> a lot of players were from Ohio and a lot of our guys that played against some of those players in high school and then when you add that little extra about <hes> only the good ones go to Michigan <hes> that that really really makes Ravin but then you gotta add and they're also <hes> the coaches and at <hes> the time without settle house take it was at the height <hes> the the Boeing Woody era and Boeing woody were <hes> fierce competitors <hes> but also they were best to France and did not WANNA lose to each other and <hes> you could see that in the games aims that were played some of the stubbornness even in the games that were played because if you look at nineteen seventy two <hes> we won that game fourteen to eleven and and bowl was inside our are five yard line. I think three times maybe even four times if he kicked field goals he don't want it but but he was so stubborn he wanted to prove that he could score on Ohio state so he was Gonna get the test defense. Take them at the two yard line at least on two or three occasions so <hes> you know I it was just that type of game and I it was really fun game to play and and and I you know I kinda describe it as as as <hes> the type type of game that you WANNA play if you go to how State Michigan I mean these type of games would that would <hes> <hes> make you wanna go to a house data Michigan because you plan a game like that you know you played in four rose bowls you only one of them and as I thought about it I remember as a kid watching that game the various games the rose bowls on New Year's Day and how special it was but I had a friend of mine who played in some of those rose bowls not against Ohio state necessarily I said how would you characterize it. He said it was Hollywood against Hicksville he said I don't mean that in a bad way but most of the colleges were in the big ten were in these small you know kind of farm teams back then I mean farm towns back then and so the the the dichotomy of atmosphere the Hollywood the way they played football in the West Coast as compared to way they played it in the big ten in the Mid West was that one of the things that was featured in the rose bowls particularly in the four that you played in. I don't know that it would be Hollywood would certainly how would <hes> but we never consider ourselves. <hes> Hick down either <hes> we because we felt that we played a tough <hes> brand of football and we had some good <hes> games against it's those teams <hes> on the West Coast so we we won the won our first game nineteen seventy three rose bowl. <hes> southern cal beat is pretty bad and <hes> next year we came back and we beat them pretty bad and then the next next game was close. We played southern CAL third year and it was like eighteen seventeen and then we played U._c._l._A.. Nine our forth rose bowl and they beat us <hes> in that game after we had beaten them earlier in the season <hes> but I think one of the things that affect us and a lot of midwest teams that go out to the Rose Bowl. Is You know you're away from home <hes> for two weeks and the time that I was out there if the teams that we played you know they were at home. <hes> they were in the comforts of their beds and whatnot and nothing changed for them <hes> but we were out there for two weeks and we were going to Disney and all that and all that stuff was not new to them. It was new does it was it was <hes> something that <hes> you know we heard about his kids and and whatnot especially my first year I had never been the California. I have never been disneyworld. I never done any of that type of thing so you know I look forward to that and then but quite frankly that was <hes> probably distracting a bit <hes> to our team <hes> but going year after year. I think we got more used to it. <hes> but still you know being away two weeks. It can have have an impact on you especially when you're planning a home team and you play southern cal. You're playing U._C._L._A.. You're playing a home team. You played seven seasons in the N._F._l.. Taken in the first round by the Cincinnati Bengals so you stayed in state once again and you know if take a look at the N._F._l.. Draft today a lot of times <hes> the heisman trophy winners not even drafted in the N._F._l.. Draft how much pressure was on you after having won back-to-back heisman trophies. There was probably a lot of pressure but you know I probably put more pressure on myself than the than anyone else because I wanted to go into the N._F._l.. And I wanted to to to do extremely well <hes> because of what I had done <hes> at Ohio state <hes> and so I made goals and going into the N._F._l.. My goal was to gain a thousand yards <hes> season. That's what I wanted to do well when I got to the N._F._l.. And I played Cincinnati Bengals you know I realized that I was playing for passing team and <hes> you know I I didn't run the ball enough to gain a thousand jobs so I quickly <hes> after a while changed my goals from gaining a thousand yard to see them to averaging five yards. Kerry now did not average five yards to carry but I haven't over four yards carrying in house very at the very happy with the fact that I ever over four yards. Okay I think any running back would be happy to to <hes> average over four yards. Carry no matter what level <hes> they're playing at and <hes> yeah so so I put a lot of high expectations on myself and and always say that I tried to do the best I could with the opportunities that I had and I do think that I made the most of those opportunities during my time <hes> with Cincinnati I had agreed time playing they got got a Lotta Friends <hes> from my <hes> years in pro football and <hes> I wouldn't change anything for the world aren't you. Let's take a look at today's Athlete College Football Player. You know when you were playing. I'm sure maybe it was an means to an I and play in the National Football League but today that seems to be the major purpose of a lot of very talented college players the way they approached the game the the attitude that they have about college athletics today. How is that different from the attitude? You and your teammates said when you played archie but you don't even even back then I think a lot of your players. <hes> you know wanted to play professionally and certainly doing my own teams. They were a lot of pleasant wanted to play profession me personally. <hes> you know ah professional football was not the big goal I had in mind I think <hes> professional football was a byproduct of the success ahead as a college football player because my goal and playing the game of football was to be able to get a scholarship to go to college to get a college education. That's what football <hes> was GONNA do for me and it did that for me but <hes> along the way I found out that <hes> things thanks <laughter> happen <hes> good enough for me that I could play at the next level and <hes> so I count that as a bonus <hes> yeah you're right around a lot of young men today <hes> play the game <hes> and hoping that that pro football <hes> I is that carrot at the end of their college career and <hes> unfortunately <hes> it's a very small few that make it <hes> to that level. It's not easy to play wait professional football and Matt matter of fact extremely tough and that's why I think it's so important for for young men <hes> to focus on on getting good grades to focus on making sure that they have something else to fall fall back on Woody Hayes was probably the best and making sure that <hes> <hes> his players <hes> knew that hey you have to have something else fall back on you can't depend on football <hes> for your life's work and always appreciate hated that about Woody Hayes I with no question a game of football was great for me. <hes> it gave me a quick start and lack in playing professional football <hes> but it also <hes> gave me the opportunity to go to college and that that was a big thing for me because I come from fairly large family of six brothers and sister and one of the goals in my parents had for all of us was that we all attend college but there was no question at the same time about parents couldn't financially four to send eight kids to school cool football allowed a six brothers and me to go to college and get a college degree. That's how much football means to me and <hes> again. It wasn't a goal of mine to play pro but it wasn't go to go to college and Play College football and let that allow <hes> for me to get my college education. We got about forty five seconds left Archie. I know that when teams that were closed get together. I know like the Green Bay Packers and Dallas Cowboy teams. There's something about the comradeship that was shared by all. I know it was probably that way for you and your teammates when you get together. What does that moment like? Oh it. It's fabulous because when you come together and I imagine you're talking about it and things like a union in writing get togethers golf outings and things that's what it bring back a lot of Great Memories <hes> The Times that <hes> you know you you you were <hes> fighting together <hes> on the field <hes> times where you came together and and and and and and conquered your opponent <hes> all these things <hes> you know they're just fabulous memories but that camaraderie that feeling you had <hes> as member of a team. That's what really really <hes> expands out in my mind about those times when you get together you know those guys are going to be your friends for life and when you get back together I it just all comes out R._G.. I WanNa thank you very much. This has been wonderful as always please come back and visit with me again anytime here on sports byline or right Becky for having me as always I should do appreciate it and I look forward to to talk with you again. 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You're listening to heartland newsfeed radio network live twenty four seven a heartland newsfeed dot com the hoping new service newscasts for Wednesday July seventeen twenty nineteen. I might Clifford the House votes to condemn President Trump's attacks on Congress. Women of Color as racist also honored down a new report forecast big losses for some states if the A._C._A. is repealed and a corporate call to flex muscle to close the pay gap up topping our news. The House voted Tuesday to condemn as racist president trump's attacks against for congresswoman of color. The New York Tyzzer Portsea highly unusual measure passed duly along party lines to forty two. one eighty seven after one of the most polarizing exchanges on the house floor in recent times the times no totally for republicans and the houses loan independent representative justin amash michigan voted with all democrats is to condemn the president john paul stevens who was named a supreme court associate justice in nineteen seventy five has died the associated press reports stevens who stepped down for the court at twenty ten at age ninety was the second oldest justice to serve and is delayed thirty-five year tenure was the third longest of the courts history stevens was appointed by a republican president gerald ford he was also praised by democratic incumbent barack obama when he left the court court justice john paul stevens dead at the age of ninety nine a new report outlines severe consequences for hundreds of thousands of pennsylvanians if the affordable care act is repealed the trump administration wants a federal appeals court to uphold the the ruling that says the obama administration signature healthcare law is unconstitutional if the fifth circuit court of appeals agrees the cases likely to go to the supreme court a new report from the pennsylvania budget in policy center says repealing obamacare would have a devastating impact on health health care costs and jobs in the keystone state according to the center director mark steer repealing the would raise the number of people in the state with no health insurance back to where it was ten years ago four pure would leave by one point five million people without insurance fourteen point four percent of the state's population that's an increase of eight hundred fifty thousand people opponents of the law say that eliminating the penalties for not not having health insurance made the mandate that everyone must buy health insurance unconstitutional i'm envious sears reporting north carolina is making strides to support families with young children but there's plenty of room for improvement especially when it comes to such basic needs healthcare and a livable wage that's according to to policy assessments by the north carolina early childhood foundation many studies have found that children's experiences in the first three years of life are hardwired into their brains and bodies making this time critical donna white works with the smart start program one of its initiatives pairs new parents with educators who helped guide them through the first few months of life with a new baby that you have a brand new mom that can be the most frightening part of being pregnant right is when you actually have the baby in your hands and now you have to go home the home visiting inhale professionally trained parenting educator who visit family and provide some coaching and connection with other services the family may mean white says north carolina should spearhead a statewide centralized effort to help connect more young families to home visiting and parenting education programs experts let's say the state could also increase its minimum wage and expand access to medicaid to reduce family's financial and health burdens both of which have a direct impact on children's physical and emotional health i'm nadia ramleh gone and in the wake of sex trafficking charges against billionaire jeffrey epstein media outlets are taking so pete now for how they described the alleged victims are take it off explains dozens of news outlets have used the term underage women rather than girls despite bite the fact that somewhere as young as fourteen when the alleged crimes were committed head of the idaho children's trust fund roger sherman says this does a disservice to those who were harmed and obscures the issue of child abuse in this case language makes us take arm's length from that concern that it's about children and you think it's about adult women and it's not it's about children who can't give consent who are not ready to have that kind of conversation and it should never be exposed to any of this media outlets also have received criticism for using phrases like sex with the minor sherman says this appears to convey that consent was involved when minors can't legally give consent finally mary sherman tells us proctor and gamble called on the u._s. soccer soccer federation to be quote the strength of the right side of history in the fight for equal pay so policy groups are our encouraging the ohio based company tacked on his own advice p._n._g. announced to five hundred twenty nine thousand dollar donation into the us women's soccer team winners last week's world cup championship in a new york times at the company calling for equal pay for women players which hannah albert with policy matters ohio says is a welcome move she urges p._n._g. to get behind policies that make a difference such as raising the minimum wage and the ohio equal pay act it'd be great to see the author start to throw their weight around that would be a game changer if an entity like procter and gamble said this is a value that we hold for own employees jason we wanna see this for the rest of workers she notes p._n._g.'s studied pay equity among its workers and house goals for equal pay in hiring practices this is by clifford for public news service we are member listener supported ever online live at public news service dot org sports overnight america program i'm jeff rich from phoenix arizona got a lot to talk about in the world to sports let's get right into it <hes> major league baseball our getting to that nitty-gritty time we're teams a half to make a decision whether they will buy sell or state foot and staying put his the most boring option but often when your team is selling they're selling pieces that you don't want him to sell and sometimes when you team is buying they're selling selling off pieces but you don't want him to sell because you don't quite believe and not every record is created equal what i mean by that is a major league baseball you can have a winless win-loss record comparable to a team in another division or over in the other league and you do not approach the trade deadline the same way because all things are relative if you are two games back in the national league central joel you could make the decision to buy or sell you know especially if your team like pittsburgh maybe maybe saint louis doesn't feel but i very much doubted in the national league sexual add <hes> you know as far as the cubs are concerned they're they're all in all the time always until they can feel that the windows about close narrow few think that they feel that they are anywhere near that point though entering the all-star break with the game lead in the division other a lot of doubters out there earlier in the season they were calling for joe biden's head and those calls may continue depending on whether or not things go south in the second half but <hes> one thing is for shared the cubs will be probably looking to buy the they got a little conservative in the offseason i think they're going gonna get a little bit aggressive looking at los angeles and speaking of los angeles if you don't think that you can beat los angeles in the nationally playoffs then you have no business being buyers abbott deadline i'm talking to you arizona divac <hes> busy day the at the british open over in ireland <hes> we've got a lot of major league baseball to talk about <hes> gets you college football and some n._h._l. an n._b._a. notes a little bit later on mary mc mara we'll have your scores at twenty five after the hour for my name's jeff richie was the sirius x._m. channel to eleven this is the sports byline broadcast at work and this is sports overnight america will right back <music> it's summertime once again which means pull parties barbecues and relaxation but it also means home projects which aren't much fun so i'm not let homeadvisor take them 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outlast <hes> we are on c._r._n. to streaming live it's the sports overnight of erica program with be jeff rich maryland loral be with us with us in a little bit to do the scores with yet ten p._m. monday through thursday thursday nights out on the west coast ten p._m. pacific time and <hes> tonight we'll talk a little bit of major league baseball stephen strasburg big nights who hits in one inning the guest three run five r._b._i. r._b._i. five or z. <hes> for the pitcher students strasbourg who is usually <hes> you know i is usually getting accolades for what he's doing on the mound but tonight at at the plate and it gets his team the win and they bury atlanta in their own ballpark which you know don't count the washington nationals out just yet in the national league east i don't think that that division belongs to atlanta i don't think that it is as their entitlement i don't think that it is their rightful possession i think that it should be wide open <hes> phillies are winning at home against the dodgers eight you know you gotta win your own games and you've got to be the the good teams for anybody to have any faith faith in you going into the postseason postseason still a full two months plus away but i'll teams need to decide now whether they are bound bound for the postseason or valor four building for the future and yeah sometimes you can sign your player back you know you've got a good relationship with the guy you're not gonna compete this year ally the yankees in two thousand sixteen so they they unload or oldest chapman <hes> player that they end up sign re-signing in the offseason after he wins world series with the chicago cubs andrew miller goes over to the cleveland indians <hes> you know at that trade deadline they get a little richer with a young talent they pick up laboratories they pick up clinton frazier from the cleveland indians they still got the justice sheffield <hes> i believe that they reacquired atom warren god did the yankees after letting him go back to the cobs so there there there were a lot of a lot of moving parts a lot of moving parts and that's what you do <hes> when you are bound for not a world series championship i mean you know some teams are gonna look at this like you know we could make the plastic the minnesota twins can make the playoffs and the minnesota twins should be looking at it currently like they're going to win the central division cleveland indians are coming up on them rapidly but you know what the twins if they didn't take care of business in cleveland coming out of the all-star break my math rascals aren't the greatest ten o'clock at night but <hes> i believe i believe that the idiots would either be within a half game right now everything else played out the same way or the twins would be looking up at cleveland in the american league central division so <hes> you do what you gotta do when you go head to head ed wood you gotta remember <hes> an eight all about had that's only nineteen games of your season cleveland just beats up on the continues to beat up on the bums and it's not like the twins are losing to good teams swept it's what by the mets yeah they were off today so so they definitely got swept by the metropolitans and if you've been paying attention to the national league east the mets are nothing to write home about this year <hes> former matt that he is best known probably for being a new york yankee but he also pitched for the mets david cone on this day in one thousand nine hundred nine nine thousand nine hundred ninety was twenty years ago that's <hes> that's kind of a tough tilda swallow <hes> you know especially if you remember it like it was yesterday but you know we don't get as much like limp biscuit and kid rock eminem i you know i think i'm going to eminem has looked at as a performer you know when he when he first came out ninety nine i felt like he was trying to be like a rap version of weird al yankovic that's definitely proven to not be the case over the last couple of years but <hes> stephen strasburg bats because he plays in the national league and and that's that that designated hitter versus not designated hitter rule i think that we are in the home stretch of pitcher batting the national league a lot of people would like to see go the other way where the pitchers have to bat in the american league and i wish there was some way to incentivize you to not use a d. h. an irish there was some way the majorly based bucket say okay if you're pitcher hits you get to to do this and you know maybe it's just insert the designated hitter into the lineup later in the game i think that would be pretty cool especially if if you're pitcher hit and you've got a week getting position player you know a guy like michael martinez who has bounced around the league even though the all he is historically the worst hitter of all time if you could use a designated hitter in that situation where you could still take advantage of his great arm in right field by not have that liability at the plate maybe that would be something to consider i think that's kind of an extreme thing what what i see happening because designated hitters i get paid more than that <hes> designated hitter in the national league you know that guy that <hes> typically pinch hits for the the pitcher as long as the situation is right or <hes> you know is inserted <hes> via double switch sometimes he doesn't play a lot of defense ads obviously you play in the national league you've got to be capable of players you know fielding position in the field <hes> otherwise you're not gonna play a whole heck of a lot you know maybe live your life and triple area and get called up for inter league action it's not all grouped together so that's not the as simple of task anymore to be designated to play versus american league teams think they still play like y'all twenty or thirty games chiefs again against the other league maybe it's not that many but <hes> even if it was as many as thirty which again i don't think it is that's not worth it is it worth playing a player unless unless he could really could you help your guys long at aaa aaa is kind of a clearinghouse for your organization you keep backups down there in gig is at bats but the true talent that the the up and coming talent resides at the aa level you know they promoted to triple a. it's it's just kind of different experience guys that are a little closer guys maybe bend to bend to the major leagues for you get promoted right from double a. like double and triple eight don't feel like there's that gap in between anymore feels like two different levels of minor league baseball that serve different purposes and perhaps apps more readiness for the major league level comes at the at the aa level you know we'll see when you look at cross minor league baseball by the way does not employ the designated hitter so our does not employ the pitcher batting rule doesn't it hitters even for nationally affiliate teams or going to see you know we're going to see designated hitters across the board so watch interleague play it's obviously i would consider these your last opportunities to watch the pitchers hit and i think it's going to be a shift i and i think that they're going to be players that are capable aflame defense that ended up being designated hitters because there are thirty starting jobs at that position because you you need to have one one of the tools don't even need to run well if you're designated hitter expected the ball out of the ballpark maybe for a little bit average and i think that you're gonna get guys in the national league at least at y'all during the beginning of the transition you'll have some big splash free agents but for the most part you're you're gonna get guys that hit for average nationally designated hitters might that six or seven they might sign a big bopper that it's third by what you're gonna get is a universal d. h. across major 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being swept in a two-game set with the mets and the angels lost the astros sixty two over in the national league the marlins are there i walk off victory of the season beating the padres four to three a four run mm seventh lifts the phillies over the dodgers seventy six saint louis rookie tummy admin gets his first career grand slam lifting the cardinals to a seventy four win over the reds stephen strasburg since a franchise rector for a pitcher with five r._b._i.'s including waiting eight three run homer and has a great night on the mound in the nationals thirteen to four beatdown of the braves the brooke ruled into arizona and beat the diamondbacks five to one and that's a rap for us for now in the m._l._b. unless the mets and san san francisco decide they want to end it to the bottom thirteenth great now so we'll just throw it back over to jeff from till they finish all right that's very mcmorris she's always keeping score for us and you gotta stay up late with these games the mets and the giants pictures dual out there air one one bottom thirteen you know it doesn't matter that's the middle of the summer it's cold up there at eighteen yards a._t. and t. park it's oracle park now but right on the bay it's never warm up there no no that chris breeze is always just fall coming off of the bay they're encouraging to stand in line for twenty five minutes for our hot chocolate chocolate jay but they make it with that jury deli it's worth it yeah actually surprised that this game was the late game tonight all week it's been <hes> houston angels so in that game was over i was excited but here's the mets and the giants to just stall so no whether it'll is today weather cooperated in the midwest yeah everyone was good all right all right well they mary appreciate your hanging out sometimes to hang out for longer but <hes> tonight i'm going to let you skeedaddle out a little bit early and we'll catch up next week sounds good y'all have great weekend all right right on that's mary mcmartin let's get she's always keeping score for us here on sports overnight america erica and if that mets and giants game ever does go final i will i will relate that final score on the phillies in the dodgers that feels like and al caliber baseball right there are i believe the season ended today the phillies would find themselves on the outside looking in the national league the phillies would indeed be out by by about a half game so it is wide open all the nats nassar in the wildcard spot how about that i think i liked the nationals a lot going into this season i picked the phillies to win the east and as it stands right now it is the atlanta braves for the second year in a row leading that and alleys but it is close the nationals those are five and a half games the phillies are seven and a half games back i feel that the phillies will get the get themselves on the right track price harper will start to maybe not play like a four hundred million dollar man but <hes> do not be surprised if bryce harper really shows out here in the second half and you know it's either the phillies of the nationals overtake the braves the mets are a little far back <hes> to be considered starting to feel that way for the reds in in the national league central division and then the last everybody's out of it except the dodgers i mean it is very close for second place but a second place in the nationally west <hes> only gets you as far as the arizona diamondbacks who are a game and a half out of the second wildcard spot they're a team that could be sellers if they can find the right deals for robbie ray and for zach ranki if they can unload that kind of payroll i think that they've got to see the writing on the wall <hes> quetzal martinez a good player <hes> they've got some youth there played for the present tense if you can get fat and happy you can get three prospects robbie ray and you can get three prospects and unload showed the money that you wrote cranky i think the diamondbacks half to do it if they were truly injure this season paul goldschmidt would still be in arizona diamondback right now but <hes> they you know they're over achieving aw hovering right around five hundred but while in the red as far as run differential and that doesn't always mean anything i mean they they wanna game by fifteen against tech strangers the other night they don't have that doesn't get them six wins that gets them the win that they are and sometimes we do look a little deeper than wins and losses but <hes> wins and losses will tell you a lot the cleveland indians top wildcard wildcard spot in the american league they've got tampa and oakland by a game they got the red sox by two games but that's not where there is there is our on minnesota at the top of the american league sexual division if they won five straight here either their last ten and the minnesota twins are struggling now the minnesota twins had a meteoric first-half they're pitching is not a big surprise by their bats they're baths have over performed the right there right there with the yankees now did yes yourself the same question the american league if you are if you're not houston or the yankees you wonder if you are on the level with either one of those teams currently north of sixty wins apiece minnesota not far behind the cleveland at fifty five fifty five and forty about a five eighty clip yankees won sixty five percent of their games twin sixty two percent of their games and the astros sixty two percent of there's okay now you look at houston in minnesota though they have comparable records actually you know minnesota as far as i'm concerned i just look at losses because you don't get those back you you you pile those up you don't get to subtract so if you have fewer losses and heure wins as far as i'm concerned you can accumulate wins you can always be better you can never take losses away so the minnesota twins having thirty six losses houston having thirty seven it's negligible at this point in the season but i'd get the edge to minnesota paper but i don't think that they're that team houston i in his just put up with so much injury they're still that much better than the american league west they're still that much better than everybody but the yankees percentage points better than the twins but if you are tampa boston cleveland minnesota hack oakland texas they're not far behind if you're one of those teams the the angels winning record toronto baltimore the rest of the american league central the rent the seattle mariners you'll see next season what are you got what are you got what are you got the can make us better right now now that doesn't bode well for seems looking for an infielder with some pop like anthony run don't because washington nationals are <music> very much still in it might even be the favorites to some people getting how you look at the rest of the schedule i think the cubs cubs her in in the driver's seat in the national league central we they gotta beat the brewers in the cardinals had they gotta win their division games and they're gonna lose ground if if somebody from out of the division or interleague beats them up in a series now can't take asleep can't next week when you're when you're in the like this always gotta salvage game though sunday games are good to salvage typically like to win on friday or saturday night and then try to win the rubber match on sunday the mid week you know the mid week series of a little different dynamic to them default rest unless you have a getaway game you know and with with with the personal catchers with with that type of system that whole backup backup catcher on sunday you know it it's coincidental when it happens i think that if you do have a long game on on a saturday night you're gonna by default restor catcher on sunday by you never know when apple you know you never know when those subs are going to happen because you know sometimes it's your second pitcher sometimes it's your fifth pitcher they curious that personal catcher with the backup and sometimes you don't want to split your starting battery so even if it would be day that you would see your backup catcher just because who's pitching it might dictate strategize otherwise on those types of things and then again the dodgers best record the national league i think that that is almost shoe and don't forget they did have an eleven game losing streak after they already had ninety in the wind power that never happened prior in major as while glass are we're going to throw it you a break <hes> shoutouts you all the troops listing out there on the american forces network it's sports overnight barracuda i'm jeff rich going back onto soda yup or listening to sports overnight american jeff rich <music> hey travelers do you want to save money on your next flight then pick up the phone call that's right call because the best prices are not online there with smartfares seat 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graham mcdowell and addow karen clark and rory mcilroy but it's shane lowry shane lowery the the unknown this is a little like ben curtis going over there and winning the event <hes> the only reason i remember that name obscure major winner from about fifteen years ago <hes> is that he had an affiliation with kent state in fact i believe that he got married and kent ohio and played in the firestone tournament of the same weekend the same day something along those lines <hes> obscure offer that's not the fate of shane lowry you'll maybe he can hang on it'd be the local hero where rory mcilroy puts up a snowman on the first whole darren clarke with the legendary tee off but <hes> worry goes out there <hes> you know puts up the dow double bogey and he's in pretty bad shape he's in fact in worse shape than tiger woods so your local hero your ambassador to golf over over the last two decades not playing well at the british j. b. homes at five under david divall puts up a fourteen on on a single all these are professional offers i can't imagine me going out there and butchering the course up i'm gonna shoot about two hundred at saint andrews this one isn't that saint andrews by <hes> i am going to play terribly on these courses that we mock these guys playing seven and eight over i will definitely burden the stigma of being ordinary guy baby below average golfer and all i don't guys like to sit behind the microphone talk about how they play for them from the tips and talk about how they they could outplay tiger woods on his bad days he's heard he's hurting it's time it's time for the clocks fast forward to tiger woods being fifty years old and dominating the senior tour i don't the keys gonna catch jack and that that doesn't have anything to do with being in ohio guy i i personally like the air that i was able to watch you know that my parents my uncle's would say you know you through the ohio guy roof the golden bear but <hes> the glare stop playing there's nothing to root for anymore all i would be doing is rooting against tiger woods and you know what i don't i am not mercury moore's i don't have that seventies dolphins mentality about about any a little bit about ohio state being the only fourteen in football team after two thousand three but you'll boise state or race that now you've got the you know you've got the twelve game schedules as default you've got the conference championships dipped and then you've got the semi-final and a final so you could go fifteen no i'm not sure that we've seen again i think clubs into clemson took an al last year and i don't think we've had an undefeated national championship in the playoff era just yeah that's that's that's a half season more than they were playing in the sixties and seventies either with the ballgame you'd like nine game regular season you'll probably seven conference upon it's too you know to now conference still probably end up playing like six home games if you're on the big boys but i'll talk about college football a little bit later on tiger woods off seven and maybe the masters was just once i add you know what the the applause that he received fanfare that he got the the amazement the aw that he brought upon us that would be fine that would be fine if that was the last time that he ends up being a major champion not saying that he's not gonna win others and i'm not saying that he's not gonna win another major i'm just saying that at this point you know maybe the next one he wins his last one or maybe the last one that anyone a we'll be the last one that he ever wins and what i've seen it wasn't augusta we don't watch you know we're watching the u._s. open and the british and the and the championship tiger woods any tiger is a nice little added bonus you know he is is very much running parallel to even those considerably older you know like miguel cabrera miguel cabrera brera was a triple crown winner miguel cabrera was one of the best hitters that ever played the game but you're not going to see that in his age thirty eight thirty nine forty forty one seasons and this guy's making forty million dollars a year her tiger can make that kind of money still tiger tiger was never about play golf to make money in in the same respect that i would say that in the present tense lebron james 'cause isn't necessarily playing basketball to make money ron is continuing to play basketball to keep himself in the spotlight i think that that would be an interesting <hes> an interesting poll all more likely to win another championship and in the gulf sense i would have to specify major because you have four cracks at it they tiger woods wins another major lebron's and other n._b._a. championship neither or or both and if it's both who who has i i mean odds are odds are definitely tigers corner because he's not stuck with this lakers roster for this poor management he gets to manage it himself he's got that over lebron anthony davis kevin durant kyrie irving the opportunity to control when he plays where he plays how he plays who coaches him lebrons got a lot of authority on those subjects by but not autonomy like tiger woods and where's where's tigers you know we're we're we're his successor you know i think the phil mickelson near despite efforts from others i think the phil mickelson proved himself to be a worthy number two you always think about that number two for a while jordan was dominique and then with jordan it was probably kobe towards the end then with kobe was lebron and and whether lebron fans like admitted it or not kevin durant has has taken the torch now that that all gets put on old because grants on the shelf for a year so to somebody nobody else emerge sign of zion williamson not not right away not out of the gate i don't think that it's going to be jogging around i wouldn't be surprised to see a rookie i wouldn't he's been surprised if a young player ends up stepping up i mean i don't know what it would take for a guy like damian lillard maybe nikola jokic i'm trying to think of that player maybe trae young look there i say devon booker kelly oubre bay one of those guys at graduates into superstar good because the list of superstar harden its westbrook and around the same team it's durant and he's not gonna play it steph curry and he's kind of on an island there in oakland or pardon me san francisco at cisco paul george paul george why i mean you've got tandems but as far as individuals who's going to individually carry their team hardens been doing it for a couple of years west parts and do a couple years now they've teamed up again they can can you see can you see milwaukee being anything special or if they had their ceiling in the n._b._a. it's nice to have a deep list when you consider the clippers contenders can't really say anything about the nets just yet they're incomplete theme as interesting <hes> prefer for kyrie irving to get the alpha freer than i think that he's going to take step back unless strands not the same after the injury which is a possibility we know oh the knicks are going to be bad i don't think the lakers are going to be bad they're not going to be as good as the clippers but they're not going to be like next bad the next it'll be bad cleveland will be bad orlando wheel n._b._a. purgatory i don't know if i love that hock should be better wizards will be worse toronto will be worst it's raw should still be a decent decent decent basketball team though obviously they lost the the reason that they won the championship the reason they were able to elevate themselves over golden state you know put it in putting asterix next to golden state all you want for the the trials and tribulations they add to deal with in the playoffs namely playing without durant but notably playing without klay thompson playing with a with a very raw boogie cousins and steph curry game everything that he had if steph curry were able to carry a team the effort that he demonstrated would have helped carry them <unk> across the finish line for the fourth time in five years and it doesn't happen and suddenly this dynasty ends will thought and maybe the n._b._a. is is worth watching again but good luck getting everybody that left the over the last couple years back and we don't know why i mean if it came back if you ever left in the first place there was a good reason to leave kobe bryant vince carter weren't carrying this the league between jordan and the ascension of lebron james aim so really from the time that you know the clock had zero between the bowls in the jazz in ninety eight and you'll lebron and i would say two thousand seven when he played in the finals void in the n._b._a. kobe shack were interesting you know it was it was obviously great to see phil wayne what ten titles eleven titles eleven titles over the course of twenty one years for fill two and a half of those that's that's pretty remarkable eight you know you might see that from the yankees yeah and you did see it from the lakers phil winning with the bulls even though he had michael i it's a lot bigger deal than drawing shack tallied team and mobile kobe play that triangle and and put a great city there's a great supported gas around whitelaw this time in chicago you might say that he you know he wanted multiple titles with without another all-star playing but as a little bit of a skewed number just homework yourself on that back in a rehash that right eight year phil jackson eleven titles when you win half the titles and find that you're coaching there's something to be said for that all right my name's jeff rich the sports overnight america we'll be right back to wrap up the our ready for this wait a few years then he doubted need ever seen these the retirement glory ripped glory listening to sports overnight american hey travelers do you want to save money on your next flight then pick up the phone call that's right call because the best prices are not online there 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beyond san francisco across the ocean over the china china of all places where the n._h._l. is gonna do one of their <hes> goodwill tours and alexander ovechkin an asian in his own right from russia will be the n._h._l. ambassador over there you know you don't think of many asian hockey players in the n._h._l. gel or just you know playing hockey period but <hes> the games are all about growth whether it's major league baseball the n._f._l. <hes> the n._h._l. or the n._b._a. and this n._h._l. goodwill tour to china just proves that <hes> also also in n._h._l. news where the n._h._l. has not gone before ron francis the former carolina hurricane two-time stanley cup winner <hes> he will be the general manager of that new seattle organization where aways rocky ski season but no i'm excited about it the coyotes should be a much better team this year and you'll maybe this is the year that we see toronto maker little run in the playoffs us in phoenix our definitely ruined for our hometown boy austin matthews there all right i hear the music it's time for me to get out or meridian some trouble of jeffords sports overnight america this was siriusxm channel to eleven and you've been listening to the sports byline broadcast hour now stay tuned for more sports come your way next hour on sports byline broadcast network <music> <music> you're listening to the heartland newsfeed newsfeed radio network newsfeed dot com the public service kelly newscasts for wednesday july seventeen twenty nineteen i'm mike clifford the house folks to condemn president trump's attacks on congresswoman of color as racist racist also honored down a new report forecast big losses for some states if the a._c._a. is repealed and a corporate call to flex muscle to close the pay gap topping our news the u._s. house that's ford tuesday to condemn as racist president trump's attacks against for congresswoman of color the new york ties are portsea highly unusual measure passed duly along party lines to forty two one eighty seven after one of the most polarizing polarizing exchanges on the house floor in recent times the times no totally for republicans and the houses loan independent representative justin amash michigan voted with all democrats to condemn the president john on paul stevens who was named a supreme court associate justice in one thousand nine hundred seventy five has died the associated press reports stevens who stepped down for the court at twenty ten at age ninety was the second oldest justice to serve and is delayed really thirty-five year tenure was the third longest to the courts history stevens was appointed by a republican president gerald ford he was also praised by democratic incumbent barack obama when he left the court justice john paul stevens dead at at the age of ninety nine a new report outlines severe consequences for hundreds of thousands of pennsylvanians if the affordable care act is repealed the trump administration wants federal appeals court to uphold the ruling that says the obama administration signature sure healthcare law is unconstitutional if the fifth circuit court of appeals agrees the cases likely to go to the supreme court a new report from the pennsylvania budget in policy center says repealing obamacare would have a devastating impact on in health healthcare costs and jobs in the keystone state according to center director mark steer repealing the a._c._a. would raise the number of people in the state with no health insurance back to where it was ten years ago for pure they would leave by one point five million people without insurance fourteen point four percent of the state's population that's an increase of eight hundred fifty thousand people opponents of the law say that eliminating the penalties for not having health insurance made the mandate that everyone everyone must buy health insurance unconstitutional i'm envious sears reporting north carolina is making strides to support families with young children but there's plenty of room for improvement especially when it comes to such basic needs as healthcare ever livable wage that's according to to policy assessments by the north carolina early childhood foundation many studies have found that children's experiences in the first three years of life are hardwired into their brains and bodies making this time <music> i'm critical donna white works with the smart start program one of its initiatives pairs new parents with educators who helped guide them through the first few months of life with a new baby say you have a brand new mom that can be looked frightening part part of being pregnant when you actually have the baby in your hands and now you have to go home the home visiting in hell professionally trained parenting educator who visits to family and provide some coaching and connection with other services the family may mean white says north carolina should spearhead a statewide centralized effort to help connect more young families to home visiting and parenting education programs experts say the state could also increase its minimum wage age and expand access to medicaid to reduce family's financial and health burdens both of which have a direct impact on children's physical and emotional health i'm nadia ramleh gone and in the wake of sex trafficking charges against billionaire jeffrey epstein steen media outlets are taking pete now for how they've described the alleged victims are take it off explains dozens of news outlets have used the term underage women rather than girls despite the fact that somewhere as young as fourteen when the alleged alleged crimes were committed head of the idaho children's trust fund roger sherman says this does a disservice to those who were harmed and obscures the issue of child abuse in this case the language makes us take a arm's length from that concern that it's about children and you think it's about adult women and it's not it's about children who can't give consent who are not ready to have that kind of conversation and it should never be exposed to any of the media outlets also have received criticism i'm for using phrases like sex with a minor sherman says this appears to convey that consent was involved when minors can't legally give consent finally mary sherman tells us proctor and gamble called on the u._s. soccer federation to be quote the strength the right side of history in the fight for equal pay so policy groups are our encouraging the ohio based company tacked on his own advice p._n._g. announced to five hundred twenty nine thousand dollar donation to the u._s. women's soccer team winners of last week's it's world cup championship in new york times add the company calling for equal pay for women players which hannah albert with policy matters ohio says is a welcome move she urges p._n._d. to get behind policies that make a difference such as raising the minimum wage the ohio equal pay act be great to see these sponsors start to throw their weight around that would be a game changer if an entity lack proctor and gamble said this is a value that we hold for own employees and we wanna see this for the rest of ohio workers i she notes p._n._g. studied pay equity among its workers and house goals for equal pay hiring practices this is by clifford for public news service we are member listener supported ever online at public news service dot o._r._g. unwelcome welcome in for another hour of sports overnight america i'm jeff rich and happy to bring it to you <hes> we're on dates you of the british open that'll start teeing off here in a couple of minutes great thing about doing live radio late at night on the west coast is that if things are happening overseas early in the morning particularly europe asia <hes> we could be on it we could be on it live because it's happening it's it's a real pain in the rear timezone <hes> <hes> you know for those of you working on night fives on the east coast and if you're working to ninety five and listening to me two one two three you are more dedicated fan base than i ever give any of you credit for <hes> speaking of dedicated fan bases college football all back in full swing it's the media day so <hes> we're hunting for quotes were hunting for quips mac mac brown returning to the a._c._c. that the big event at a._c._c. media days how about lovey smith speared at big ten had media days <hes> you know the coach of the align i think fourth year down there in champaign urbana football team hasn't shown any signs of progress but <hes> lovey smith sticking it out with this team <hes> got a little bit of love there in illinois they haven't coached the bears into super bowl participation ribbon but <hes> you know not an o'brien they're not a out vardi trophy <hes> by any stretch of the imagination we got a marathon going on <hes> by the bay between the new york mets and and the san francisco giants that is reached the trump team thinning <hes> we will specify last i saw it was fifteen and if that game manages to go final the next hour i'll talk to you all about the also going out of college football media day <hes> you've got jim harbaugh spitting on the grave of urban meyer as urban myers first year of retirement from ohio state retirement two point oh so to speak peca talked about what a great coach wasn't how how teams could beat your teeth but how he was never away from the controversy how can never separate himself between florida and ohio state from controversy both on and off the elevated the gated all the college football all of the british show for that i ap talked about you n._b._a. notes and maybe some major league baseball this hour odd sports overnight of eric you're listening dan patrick radio sirius x._m. jail to eleven we're the sports byline broadcast network will be right back <music> if you were a loved one is suffering from physical emotional condition that is left you unable to work then listen carefully take this number down eight hundred five 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cable thirty thirty five forty left sideline to the michigan forty campbell to the thirty campbell to the sanity take sick to the house paris i campbell on a fly sweet going seventy eight yards came from left to right and ran it all the way to the north end of the stadium and just like that forty seven twenty five ohio state thirteen at ten to twenty five back back to throw pressure big chased gets out of there now he's turn it around michigan you're listening to sports overnight america with jeff rich welcome back it is sports overnight america and college football not too far away <hes> coming up here at the at the end of the month of august you know we got some actual marquis games on that the week zero and then of course <hes> plenty of game su <hes> fill the slade come week one of the college football season which is labor day weekend and you've got conference offers matchups she got some lopsided affairs he got some cupcake games but <hes> it when the season starts the season starts we all everybody is vulnerable to being eliminated from the championship <hes> pretty much wjr right right out of the gate there are very few week one losses that you can overcome unless you're playing in one of those absolute marquis games but you know if you're arizona state you lose to kent state your season you know u._c.'s it from a national championship <hes> perspective is over on the other side line look at that can't stay team you know if they come out to <hes> arizona and beat the sun devils on a hundred twenty two degree day day that will be something that they would remember forever so there's always the potential for something crazy to happen it's when you have the pedestrian matchups it's when you have a couple of let's say six and five if teams meeting up in week twelve of the season you want that to be a rivalry game so that maybe if teams aren't both six and five because you know you talked about bowl eligibility eligibility but <hes> bowl tearing mm-hmm because he can win six games get left out you probably will not by there's a chance that you win six games and you don't get a postseason just because the slots get filled they don't make sure that everybody gets chair they just make sure that all the chairs are filled so you know win seven when seven seventy usually gets yet i mean we don't you know it's going to be like northern illinois back in the day think of ten and two they beat alabama have a an maryland both the ranked at the time and <hes> they don't get invited to go bowling because they don't beat bowling green and miami in the regular season but they beat alabama and they beat maryland they be great great alabama maryland teams and you gotta kinda go fishing through history i go mining through the archives defied greer's maryland football two thousand one always say two thousand one they were the the they won the a._c._c. think we saw wake forest when the a._c._c. one year was the year that they lost to <hes> louisville saw say that that's like two thousand six you get good good football after i don't take particular interest in the sun belt and you The Big East basically and the mountain west. I would say I would put those conferences all a little bit higher I would I would almost always and we've seen it play out in bowl season. You know he's like you know mid week. December December seventeenth ballgames when you see the Mac play the mountain west. It's ugly. It's often agree. I think the MAC has had some success in up up in Boise but you're northern Illinois been crushed twice out in San Diego a you know. I don't even think they play that <hes> that game that is the precursor to the holiday bowl there at at the <hes> at the Murph. You know that was the game that I and I you lose to T._C._U.. Back when they were in the mountain West and Utah State who is a mountain west participant. I think you be in Fresno and <hes> you know I've got a connection to and I you in in my household so I pay a little bit more attention to them. Oh we might have we have a final here coming up in that the mets the giants game <hes> in the sixteenth thinning. We've got <hes> you know we've got. We've got a breaking event in that game but we'll we'll get back to that. We're talking college football this hour here on sports overnight America Jeffords here with <music> as I am Monday through Thursday a ten P._M.. Pacific Time <hes> the twitter is at Jeff rich talks and you can give me on facebook on the Jeffords talks show page basically and <hes> I got a website. I'm not ready to give out the address but you could probably figure it out <hes> back to college football it yeah it's been a clumps in Alabama invitational. Every year of you know in recent history. That should be no different this year. Georgia hopes to challenge Alabama in the S._e._C. in the A._C._C.. Floors states always looming Georgia Tech Georgia tech is fallen way off Virginia Tech. <hes> just in Wednesday's got a good program there and you know it's kind of you know maybe it's the change of pace that they needed in Blacksburg beat Miami where it was going to play Florida. I have a feeling Miami's going to enter the month of September with losses as that. I'm overwhelmed by Florida Florida's clearly behind Georgia and add. Maybe another program there in the S._e._C. and the S._e._C. West be will be competitive. Ole Miss Mississippi State Arkansas. Ah I'm going to need to see something else from them and your Jimbo Fisher has beaten the S._e._C.. Maybe he could figure things out there. I I don't know the TEX- Texas Tech saying that was even the best program in the state of taxes and I'm talking about their actual rival counterpart the Benham play anymore for stupid reasons as I bring up Texas or Texas am own a mention that they need to play each other arrogant. They need to renew that rivalry. They need to play that game on Thanksgiving. I need that game on Thanksgiving ditch the N._F._l.. Mike game get out of the way. Let the State of Texas place in college football on Thanksgiving night. We you play the Egbo on Saturday and I realized that you try to squeeze a lot of games on Friday that weekend so the Cheetah's much T._v.'s you can't out of that weekend with college football the let let the lions play let the cowboys play at and then get out of the way and may get a college football weekend through Saturday. You know you get back on Sunday and Monday N._F._l.. And he had it on Thursday yet on Thursday for two games. You don't eat three games on Thursday so Texas tech saying you know they need to play all right so there's this whole thing by about your harbaugh calling out urban Meyer and this is fine except for the fact that you know in here's the quota quarter reminders had a winning record really phenomenal record everywhere. He's been <hes> but also controversy follows everywhere. He's been and you look at Aaron Hernandez. You could look at <hes> you know I it's hard to you even pinpoint some of these things but you're placement suicide on his watch. He's had you know the Carlos. Hide was involved in an incident Carlos Hi. It's been in the in the N._F._l.. For for eons ads now it seems he's honest is on his third or fourth team now for Ya Urban Meyer does not make sure the Urban Meyer is sure to bring hey guys they can't play football. Football is a dangerous game and it brings dangerous human beings and sometimes dangerous. M._B._A.'s can't stop pilots a win the whistle pools and the game starts all right. We're throat you break week ear sports overnight America a little bit more talk about college football. I'll the other side I want to get some N._F._l.. With you as well listen everywhere four touchdown Jon Secada ten now at the seventy four wives to decide made moesha's tape tape Barbara from left to right where the frogs work across your dial second down and he's got twenty twenty five thirty split down the field there is forty Darius Twenty Darius to doc style three yards scape precarious hord products lead it now. 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That's eight hundred five seven on ninety six thirty one Georgia's the tailback cigarettes Uber Calloway the Web Guarantee Donald takes the step back platelets rose and so bad it as touchdown Tennessee Dominic would handle the junior college looks France for the back of the end zone alone Garrett's auto put it right on the panel volunteers fight six with six thirteen to go here on your list sports overnight America with Jeff rich access o'byrne irritatingly now we're back and we're talking college football eager odd sports overnight America Jeff Rich here with you. <hes> it's been awhile since Tennessee has a really been anything think of relevance on the National Stage. I mean quarry L. Out Player. The made a difference they were full of Post Peyton manning in the near the national championship the year after he leaves. They were always in the hunt for the S._e._C.. Those first couple of years under off the phone but it's been pretty lean ever since say how many coaching changes now you know. They've got the Jeremy pruitt there. I guess he's as good as any. Let's see what he could do. It will just a Wilcox finally got an opportunity out out here in the West so you know so. Let's see what happens at. I don't know that the West is going to figure it unless Oregon is out of this world this year. U._S._C. looks just so far away Ditto for U._C._l._A. But chip Kelly you'll we've seen him come onto the scene but he's over a pretty good program for Mike. BELOTTI was out ten years ago now. I think we're coming up on you. I think we're coming up on the ten year. Anniversary of the ducks being defeated sixteen to eight by by Boise state at Boise State. There's an incident after the game that had involved a player being hit and legare blunt missing most that season I think he came back for like the civil war the Rosebowl air and he had a great n._F._l.. Career. I think that it's almost forgotten it's not it's not run. Our test where it's the very first thing you think of is you know is some kind of extracurricular. I lagarde blunt has had a great n._F._l.. Could not a hall of fame career May. I'll probably not a pro career but I would say that he's had a very good career considering bed. Most of his final year of college was taken away from it ever really looked. We'll get into the PAC twelve off at later time here on the on the sports overnight America program. I really enjoy college football. You know it's about time the Phil Steals magazine is is hitting hitting the racks. I think Lindy's still puts out a publication. Look for a lot of the ones that were around when I when I was younger and I think the most of them are digital. Only you know you don't want them to your device but I still kinda. Let you know for for for reference material. I I'd rather have the the printed material then Dan you know then even a p._d._f.. 'cause I don't mind you know I could sit quietly and read. You know if I have my phone. It's different because you're accessible and you know you. Have you just have technology at your fingertips so you know you'd think about reaching out to someone while you're reading and you just you know you you put it on the back burner and you take care of it later. You've got the device in your hand. You gotTA call somebody. You know. You probably don't call them at all. He probably actually Komo tax message but he I really do like reading that stuff or I like having it for the for the airplane. I don't want to worry about having a charge my phone because I decided that I want to read up uh-huh Vanderbilt special teams this year. I was trying to always trying to name the bottom tier team in the in the conference in the S._e._C.. I it Kentucky's always a good one. Tennessee has been a good one. You get you a couple teams. In the less you know give Alabama say a struggle. They just look like they're not quite as outmanned by Alabama on the first couple of series this game the Alabama steps to get you and their their overall talent. I mean you know you try not to get let the deepest man get behind you but if they're they're bus enough nine yards run when they're on the Russian the football ball you gotta play Close Line of scrimmage and you gotta you had cheat up with those defensive backs to help out on the tackle so that you don't give stupid gate unfortunately you move with the players closer to the line of scrimmage set you up for said stupid game. You know they were on the ball. They were the ball a lot everywhere. You know the run pass. Option is the new thing R._P._O.. Waiting for for what what this year's giving is because we hear back shoulders throw one year we are run pass option the next year and you know we hear fades. We hear you know we hear slants in the talk about got it nonstop talk about something about protecting the football we give it a little give it a name and it'll become a thing that year and every announced will pick up on and it'll happen. You know what happened in college football. Sometimes the pros pick up on IT R._P._O.. Was Not exclusive to college or the national football year ago and it's it's the offense spread spread your strategies to be litter but now you've got to run the but you gotta run the football a lot that that option team that that Auburn had a couple years ago they ran the ball to the trason was Dad Dale astle James Sale. I believe that this was his stage name like Dallas. I shouldn't you know act like I'm guessing on on on this type of subject matter on talking about a rap music but year-in-year-out ear out you could put up some typical picks for the major conferences. There's been some level of fluctuation in the PAC twelve but it's been Washington's conference last couple of years Oregon the thrown from U._S._C. and then you know and Stanford's kind of thrown their hat in the ring but it's been Washington's conference last couple of years. I don't know that you feel like you have to default Washington. Is Your as your pick but let's say yes you see you're always picking Alabama and the A._C._C.. You're always picking clumps in in the big ten you might you might deviate from Ohio state of the same reason that you would deviate gate from Clump Center Alabama and the other conferences just to be different just a just a not be all chalk and amy you pick Michigan <hes>. Have you seen Nebraska's favorite I. I'm GonNa tell you just because of Jonathan Taylor. I like Wisconsin to win the West. We'll we'll see what or frost does with with that Nebraska program but I would be almost certain whether they struggle early out on the season or not I I'm going to say Wisconsin's going to end the season is the best team in the last barring injury of course and that Nebraska doesn't sniff that big ten champion. We'll play back the tape. We'll play back the tape into in December. If that ends up being case we have Nebraskan Nebraskan Michigan. What a miserable big ten championship that would be oh God all we would hear about is is the past when really but both those teams would be very fortunate to be in that spot in early December playing for ten championship with with with Wisconsin Orlando State on the outside looking in? I think the theories that because Urban Meyer is a great coach there when you subtract him from the program your program automatically becomes worse and if the only became slightly worse they would lose to Michigan and not play for a big ten championship and not be in the College Football playoff conversation but the you know I mean you're still talking about probably attendant team. He'll gladly take that in Atlanta. Dallas or Glendale Michigan ends up in the playoffs. We'll see we'll see we'll see of Michigan's in spot to beat Ohio state and go to the Big Ten championship or College Football Playoff mean cart before the horse obviously but <hes> you know if I'm Jim Harbaugh. If I'm Jim Harbaugh I'm not talking about Urban Meyer at all. I'd Rather Ryan Day not think about my program for for for the next sixteen weeks I'd rather you know I'd rather fly under the radar. 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My goal is always been to make this one that premiered most comprehensive programs in America. It has always been a goal to see it. Help trump program handed to an elite coach person to make it even better now back to sports over at America with Jeff Rich. How about you urine urine urine? There's no question the Urban Meyer Ohio state into an elite status and I think it's always bad healthy program. Welcome back to sports overnight America. We're talking college football here. <hes> Jeff rich thanks her stand up with us and I want to talk about the historically strong programs. I'm not talking about teams that are necessarily going to compete in twenty nineteen though most of them not so coincidentally will because they are again a healthy program Germany. I think that it starts with Oklahoma Ohio State Alabama and you know it's tough to not put U._S._C. in the in the conversation and I think the Utah's are very healthy program. I think that Colorado state's been shaky. New Mexico's then <hes> very stable under Bob Davey U._T._S._a. has been very good. Would you know they're still there still sending from the ashes of of nothing I mean at least Boise State had like some N._A._S._A.. Routes they're just starting at the starting their football burgum at Texas San Antonio. I believe that's the case at Georgia state as well. You know they went through some transition years now. They're they're. They're conference championship eligible bowl all eligible. I think the extent you know I think the expansion of teams that I mean we're up to one hundred thirty teams. Now you know from one hundred eighteen fifteen years ago and I liked thank you. I liked that. There's more participation top level in a place like Georgia in Alabama. You know you've got South Alabama. They've brought back the U._A._B.. Football program you got troy. There and it's five Division One division. One eight programs are Alpha bubble subdivision programs that you got Alabama Georgia Georgia Georgia tech now yet Georgia southern Georgia state E._C._U.. I in south in South Carolina's well apple. Appalachian State is in North Carolina so you have college athletics that are just tobacco road there in North Carolina Florida's huge great. You'll see at F._A._U.. Making a lot of noise on the national scene in fact you probably see them. You know I know that F._A._U.. Played Lead Michigan State a couple of years ago at Ford Field F I you got into a brawl with with the you because I don't think I know you know Lamar. Thomas was talking about getting that elevator. Go go down on the field Cy Zaira. It's it's it's funny. That's one program. Were you don't have to separate the students from the alumni. They're all the same same guy they never never change and that could be a positive thing to if you're the video game nerd at Coral Gables Florida. You're probably going to be the video game nerd later in life. Whether it's you know your your job selling insurance or maybe a short career or longer career in the N._F._l.. I just don't like that program. I you know I just historically. There's just really no incentive like jerome. Brown Brown died in a car accident while he's playing for the Eagles and you re back about the the quotes that he had the way that he presented himself the the week of that Fiesta Bowl against Penn state. You know where they came out in the fatigues Ed Vinny Testaverde Era Vinny Testaverde quarterback that team and they did not fair so well and you know that Penn State team beat them. I doing the math breath now. I'm thinking that it might have been pretty bizarre. I don't know if that's right. Though Miami Penn State to blackledge was the quarterback for for Penn State. I'm on certain of that men they'll and my still plan for <hes> out for Penn state around that time the Freemen McNeil it's a little bit before my my sports watching life Penn state's just one big blur running backs Freeman McNeil the right on through Saquon Barkley and sanders good player to man so Thomas Courtesy is he's Donald Carter of course and Penn State's at different brand afoot bombing. It's the same white jerseys you know. I knew I know the name on the back. I think that was important. I think it was important to separate themselves from Joep House program for a long time but it's James Franklin's program in and they're going to compete you know I mean they've obviously there to BA- games. They're going to be Ohio State Michigan. You know you gotTA. You know if you're one of those three teams. You've got to count on winning those three games are those two games you know for Michigan State all three of them. I don't think that Michigan State really get get gets put on the list and they don't would have an offense this year. You can be really strong on defense and they've got some you know they've got some talent on the offensive side of the ball but you who's GonNa play quarterback for them. Who's going to replace what you lost with Paris Campbell allu- they looked or Chris'll ave looked the great towards the end of the season for Ohio state last year Michigan's going to be a little bit more mature this year? It's an odd year so the Games up at the game against Ohio states up in Ann Arbor I missed the big twelve earlier. I wanted to say that you could pencil in Oklahoma the same way you pencil in Ohio State Alabama and glimpse into when their conference as four conferences you can write that down every year you will be far Arraf. I that Oklahoma I'd like a seventy five season at one point in Ohio state had that <hes> that probate year or Braxton Miller was ill was thrown into action really early and trough prior was suspended. I mean he had an opportunity to beat Michigan four times. I mean the the the J._V. team that will have state ran out last time Michigan beat them. That was one possession game late. You WANNA see somebody compete for the for the S._E._C. U._S._C. U._S._C. somebody besides Oklahoma and Texas really when it's Texas tack or Baylor Kansas State I top of the big twelve I dunno. It is quite as exciting I West Virginia would be fun more fun than T._C._U.. As far as a big twelve chappie but I think the Texas are Oklahoma has to be in the picture and that's really important because they've they play the rivalry game so early. It's the first Saturday in October the play that game saw early then it's always relevant one of those teams being unless you have you know like the Charlie's strong years were Texas five and seventeen so the two and three heading into that game sometimes usually scheduled so that both those teams are foreign water five zero headed into the Red River game rivalry shootout one of them's not politically correct at it's so not lately obvious this which one is less politically correct between shootout and rivalry that I've never cared even research it. I think I did look it up once and and if it's F- sense forgotten it and I'm not one of these guys that's it's getting you know. It's GonNa Judas Horn about how everything is to P._C.. But that is to see when I can't say one of those things and I don't know which one I can't say good good matchup though good not last game by U._S._C. and Notre Dame is often last game when his in California but they played earlier in the year when it's in Indiana. That's a good rivalry. Army Navy is good rivalry. I know that allow you're going to say you know yawn watching Komo triple option offense go back and forth but it's pretty compelling football. It's it's been. It's been worth the Saturday afternoon when you've got nothing else happening Alabama L._S._U.. That that does allow for me. Alabama Tennessee does something for me in Alabama Auburn doesn't ton for me but you know then you're getting into that last week of the season Arizona Arizona state you know I mean I think that I mentioned that Colorado new tire kind of the orphans and the PAC twelve but you have natural rivalries between Arizona Arizona State Between U._S._C. U._C._l._A.. Stanford and Cow Oregon Oregon State Washington Washington state the you know you could definitely rank those you know I put the L._A.. One at the top cal Stanford got some history to Oregon. Oregon State was fun when you're there the Apple Cups Fun when you're you're their territorial cup is interesting when you're there but none of those games really stack up I mean U._S._C. Notre. Dame is the best rivalry that the PAC twelve asked offer b._y._U.. Utah's Big Tennessee Tennessee Alabama Florida Auburn. I think is kind of cool Florida Florida's state but the last game of the season type of deal as well nobody but even on the east coast it gets progressively were specially throughout the big time once you get past Ohio state in Michigan Wisconsin Minnesota Iowa Nebraska they none of them like stack up to the pre alignment days when you were watching <hes> you know Colorado Nebraska play Oklahoma or Colorado play Nebraska those we're always awesome games to watch in the big big twelve has been completely completely corrupted another word. I'm not sure if I could say it even if it is three in the three thirty in the morning on the East Coast to forty five in the morning too late I get I get a few liberties college. Football's always wanted to discuss and I will discuss that with you. Even eight you know I I used to I used is beyond Sunday mornings and it was always great because college football was fresh by Sunday mornings. You're just so about looking forward to the N._F._l.. College football basically gets Saturday nights you relish in its own headlines by the time the Sunday papers out everybody's talking about the national football and it's fair because that's a higher cheer. It's better gate love the volume of college football but I like the knee tightness of the National Football League. I like the structure structure of the program versus the chaos and everything there's not even a straight up system for who makes the playoffs. At least it's all numbers in the N._F._l.. But I raise the chaos just just as much as I embrace the <hes> the call so to speak so fun sees it's it's worth waking up at eight thirty on Saturday morning to watch and that's a little bit easier as you get older and we're not getting any younger. It's almost time to wrap the show. We'll be right back on the other side to close everything out of Jeff rich in sports overnight America. 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The little guys just play in a different conference there and I think that the others always look at the I think that that is really on the cost of granting itself an automatic bid once again they gave it to the old big yeast and it's a lot of the same teams granted. There's there's no Louisville. Louisville is gone to the A._C._C.. There is no West Virginia. They've gone to the to the big twelve but you know you still have Cincinnati. You still have central Florida. <hes> you know you've got Houston. <hes> central Florida's crashed the party several times and the mountain West has given US Boise State and they've given us <hes> you know and before that they gave us t._C._U.. <hes> antiques you as ascended to the to the big twelve obviously but <hes> these he's mid major teams. I'm going to tell you Utah state out of the Mountain West Houston U._C._F.. Play each other in the American look for those two teams to <hes> prudentially crash the party especially Utah State if they could beat L._S. would be six. It's all right. I hear the music. It's time for me to come home. <hes> Jeffords Fence Sports overnight America Dan Patrick Radio Sirius X._M.. Channel to eleven now stay tuned for more sports next hour on these sports byline broadcast <music> <music>. You're listening to the heartland. The News Feed Radio Network Broadcasting Live sleeper seminar newsfeed service daily newscasts for Wednesday July the seventeen twenty nineteen. I'm Mike Clifford. The House folks to condemn President Trump's attacks Exxon congresswoman of color as racist also honored down a new report forecast big losses for some states if the A._C._A. is repealed and a corporate call to flex muscle to close the pay gap topping our news. The House voted Tuesday to condemn as racist president trump's attacks against for congresswoman of color. 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I'm Nadia Ramlogan and in the wake of sex trafficking taking charges against billionaire Jeffrey Epstein Media outlets are taking so pete now for how they described the alleged victims Eric Take it off explains dozens of news outlets have used the term underage women rather than girls despite the fact somewhere as young as fourteen when the alleged crimes were committed head of the Idaho Children's Trust Fund Roger Sherman says this does a disservice to those who were harmed and obscures the issue of child abuse in this case the language makes us take a arm's is length from that concern about children and you think it's about adult women and it's not about children who can't give consent who are not ready to have that kind of conversation and it should never be exposed to any of this media media outlets also have received criticism for using phrases like sex with a minor Sherman says this appears to convey that consent was involved when minors can't legally give consent finally Mary Sherman tells US proctor and gamble called on the U._S.. 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This is my Clifford for public news service. We are member enlisted supported ever online <music> at Public News Service Dot O._R._G.. It's time for the attack here on sports overnight America now live live from New York. Here's your host Bob Black will today America Works Sports Attack Bob Black. He is Scott cutting out in the west coast and this is for overnight America part of the sports byline broadcast network. You're listening on Sirius checks am channel to eleven and all around the country on the various different affiliates. We have including KS H._p.. Fourteen hundred A._M.. The strongest signal in North Las Vegas still being held hostage still just waddling back from the all you can eat buffet which is a daily thing cnet ceiling where we keep them fed we water them and we take them out for a little poop every once in a while as well <hes> at Bob Black Seventy one at sports fine line U._S._A.. We're GONNA have a lot of fun today. We have a lot to talk about the open going on over Northern Ireland and storylines that are coming out of there not the least of which is the health of one eldrick tiger woods and we will get into that a little bit talk about the future or lack thereof of the greatest Golfer or second greatest convert depending. I think on your point of view in the history of the sport <hes> got a major league baseball N._F._l.. Talk about him. You know just bouncing around. The appropriate of the world is sports. Is there no major storylines right now n._F._l.. CAMPS CAPS opening and we'll have a little bit of fun with that but <hes> amyloid take a trip to the beach as well as we do each and every day and it's just the way roles well have a little Casa Blanca. 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We'll we'll see if it goes any further four shot a seventy eight yesterday and ended up being the the overriding story line to a tournament that it was dominated at least in the first round by the weather J. B. Home sitting on top at five under lowry at four under rooks kept the machine at three under Lee Westwood Look at three hundred Westbrook at three hundred as well tiger shot a seventy eight rory shot a seventy eight. Most everybody who was just remotely in contention was sitting around even the weather just dominated it was blustery conditions to be kind. The rain was pouring down at various different points. It's it's part of playing over there. It's it's also part of links golf out for some reason on these courses where they're built the weather just sweeps in and out at random they can predict it as best they can and they did predict rough weather yesterday but it made for really scrambling golf from everybody. The projected cut right now is plus one in today's second round and there were a lot of big names that are going to have a hard time getting their Keegan Bradley Shot A to over <hes> Jim furic shot a to over Stewart cink shot at three over of these guys who have either one majors are been contention. Zach Johnson shot at three over buddy that we were talking about the defending ending champion Francesco Molinari shot at three over yesterday to shambles you out of three over <hes> it was rough and it was tough to watch it. It really was because most of these guys were hacking their way out of the header. Mickelson was five over <hes> we talked about tiger. We talked about Rory Tiger was tied. One hundred forty four Roy was tied for one hundred forty ninth former champion David Duval plus twenty. He shouted ninety one a ninety one out of a professional golfer it it too uh-huh data you feel for these guys feel for these guys and I mean no joke but the overriding story line aside from who was in contention because it comes down to it and he he muscled is Wade through the weather is Brooks Kapka who was sitting at three under and again. There's a bunch of other guys Tony for now is looking to break through on the majors. WHO's due to break through on the majors is tire and what he had to say? After the round yesterday which ran was brutal enough off was a little bit frightening of your van and a little bit predictable. No matter what your opinion of Tiger Woods Tiger Woods is eight talked about the fact that he is dealing more on a day-to-day basis with just being able to move and he talked about and it was an interesting term because he said you have to be able to especially under these conditions to be able to shape the golf ball and I guess what he means by that. Is You remember back to the glory days of Phil Mickelson worried worried pull pull shots out of his rear end and you would just wonder how did he do that and he was really an overall magician with a golf club. Most of these guys are they which is what makes them the elite golfers that they have been in their career is that they can basically make a golf ball do whatever they wanted to do and when you can't move and you're not pliable enough physically to be able to do that you're restricted as to what you can do on a golf course and in many ways you have to have pristine conditions in order to be able to play the level of golf that these guys are used to playing and with the back issues she is that Tiger Woods has it's it's on a day in day out basis their issues with him being loose enough and flexible enough the play golf that he wants to play. He just flat out said he said I'm not moving as well as I'd like and everything was left to right. I couldn't hit it. Solidly you saw Pebble Beach Because that happened happened out there too. It seems as if when the weather conditions are not ideal and we're talking about damp rainy cool conditions and he was wearing a sweater yesterday and everything else he he he has issues and he just can't do what he's capable or used to be capable of doing. I mean it's not the only this has happened to. We Watch Freddie Couples career disintegrate. We've watched other golfers have the same thing happened after they've had major injuries and there's a guy that had spinal fusion and would set afterwards you know they asked him. How disconcerting was another words wondering if it's at the point where he's going to have to walk away because everybody's waiting for that day he said look? It's just the way it is father time in some procedures I've had over the time and it's just the way it's going to be said. It's one of the reasons why I'm playing less tournaments this year and his hopefully I can prolong my career and be out there for a little while longer it. That's tough stuff I mean he won the year end tournament mm it last year. He won the masters this year two prestigious big things but for anybody who thinks at forty three years of age after multiple surgeries and specifically a spinal fusion surgery that tiger woods is going to go out there and he's GonNa play weakened weak out like tiger woods who was thirty years old. It's flat out not going to happen. I hope from the perspective above what the Guy has done for the game of Gulf that he can stay out there as long as he wants to stay out there. You know the personal stuff the the off the course stuff aside. He's not somebody I admire as a human being in any way shape shape or form as he's he's done his redemption tour and everybody seems to embrace tiger yet and that's all well and good. I have my own opinions on it frankly here. I don't care just talk about the Gulf but I don't know how long he can keep going. He's GonNa make a decision at some point in time that he he just doesn't WanNa play anymore and when that happens you're going to see him. <hes> play only the majors. I doubt he'll go onto the senior tour financially. He doesn't need it. It's a bad thing for the for the senior tour champion's tour whatever the hell call it now doc because they need marquee names but he's not going to be able to go out there and do it and I'm sure from that point on it'll be about his businesses. <hes> sure he'll be on television. I'm sure whatever the circumstances are really doesn't matter at this point in time but if he's able to get out there and at least continue playing some golf you know fifteen tournaments a year or something along those lines pick and choose the spots where he's trying to play in more warm weather sites than anything else. Maybe we'll see him out there for a little while. I'm sure part of it. We talk about the emotion that goes on after an athlete has the either a good round or a bad round and then they go in front of the cameras. I'm sure emotion had a lot to do with what he was talking about yesterday as much as anything else but tigers time is almost up and it's a reality is that the golfing world is going to have have to face. We'll talk about WHO's going to pick up the mantle right after this brief timeout on Bob's lack Scott cutty don't go anywhere waited three years. Many of you will return to glory. You're listening to sports overnight America. If you were a loved one is suffering from a physical or emotional condition that is left you unable to work then. Listen carefully. Take this number down eight hundred five nine three seven four nine one. That's eight hundred five nine three seven four or nine one. 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The bucket nation followed my heart not my head I fell short and pursuing full information because at each juncture I gave Zach Smith benefit as I reflect my loyal to to his grandfather Earl Bruce pursued my mentor like a father to me likely impacted how he treated Zach over the years. I do not know everything about sex myth which was what saks fifth was doing and I'm pleased that the report made this very clear. I did a poor job at media. It's big reason why we're here today. I was not being as complete as accurate as I should have been a day and afterward but there is no intent to mislead my role to set a good example and it's instant I do not live up to the university's standards standards now more of the sports attack with Bob Black here on sports overnight American yeah there too bad oh we'll get to urban in just Sega because him and Jim Cau- cannot set it aside at least in the case of our body has he keeps referencing him. You know we were talking Golfing Scotty and I off the Air Scott who's talking about. If if I was on the leaderboard I'd be pissed at all the attention and microphones and everything else for sitting around Tiger which is a legitimate complaint but the next person needs to step forward people thought it was going to be Jordan speed the as WANNA tournament a couple years. Here's Rory's thirty rory sitting at eight over par for the tournament. The next guy is going to be brooks. Kepco it it the muscle-bound big time hitter who has a legit get game who is not passionate about golf. He just does it for a living. The the crowd loves him and he is now one. All the majors accept this one and he's in contention at three-under if he wins this one he's in the hunt I mean he's in the hunt anyway but he's in the hunt to be the Premier Golfer on seen. He's the Best Golfer in the world right now. A little more charisma would would be good but they're going to be able to build the game around him going forward if he can stay consistent. All these guys flare up they all fall off. We'll see what happens for perks. Kepco Urban Meyer is off the seen as a coach but Jim Harbaugh did it didn't keep him from from commenting on him when it came to Urban Myers past and his legacy and everything else that goes on and he was on a radio station slash podcast and talked about the fact that controversy is always followed urban Meyer which is true. He didn't say anything. It wasn't true in E._S._P._N.. Headline they called it a dig at Urban Meyer but I think it's just being honesty at being honest and putting some honesty out there has never hidden when it comes to speaking is not a microphone and he said Urban Meyer had a winning record phenomenal record everywhere he's been but also also controversy follows him everywhere he's been in this was on the T._k.. Show PODCAST OP assuming somewhere up admission but media days are happening right now for all the major conferences and we're going to talk about that a little bit next week but here's a guy and the frustration. I'm sure had something to do with it. Michigan coaches are not judged by national championships ships Michigan coaches are not judged by appearances and the roles goal Michigan coaches are judged on how they fair against Ohio State. It's as simple as that and harbaugh went went or one four against Urban Meyer and his first four years at Ohio Ohio state so Hobart talked about it and he threw himself into the conversation he said look you welcome the accountability ability. He's all you can be judged on your record and what you record is overall. What you record is in your conference and what you record isn't head to head matchups with the other teams that you play you find right now that Ohio state is the only team that has a better record record than us a better conference record doesn't a better overall head add matchup with us so yeah sitting there being honest the guys thirty eight fourteen since he took over at Michigan and Michigan in the preseason rankings at released has been ranked as high as number one in some of the Poles but they have fallen short and he not unlike coaches that have been their previous with Michigan have not been able to get them up to that next level and it's still been about Ohio state until Meyer Step Down Alabama now clemson the defending national champion and various other teams sprinkled sprinkled mostly in the south that our top level teams? You know it it Texas. A. And M. is making inroads it it it Miami has a new coach again l._S._U.. Is Always Iraq. I you know these these teams are always around and what Jim Harbaugh has discovered and he's done a good job recruiting so he hasn't been afraid to get into the living rooms. And get his elbows dirty but he has found out in a very tough way that it's not a level playing field and it's very difficult to get guys in kids from California in Florida Texas took them up to Michigan in cold weather and play up there. It's as simple as that. The first hurdle he had to get over and this is what everybody was talking about when he first got hired as Oh we now finally have somebody that could be Ohio state. Now didn't play out that way now whether or not it changes under Ryan Day remains to be seen now he has not not beaten Ohio state yet. We're GONNA find out this year whether or not he can do it if he doesn't and goes to Owen five against Ohio state. There's going to be heat on Jim Harbaugh now macabre. We'll have the luxury of gets to the point where he doesn't WanNA put up with the stuff at Michigan. He always go back into the pros. He'd get hired in a heartbeat does it. This is a guy took Colin Kaepernick and to San Francisco Forty niners to the super bowl so he'll he'll there's no worries as far as that goes but harbaugh is a gritty no nonsense competitor and he felt the need to go after Urban Meyer to a certain point now Meyer this year and we'll see whether or not he sticks to his word because he's talking about his health and everything else but you heard that B._S.. Apology that he put out there about Zach Smith but he's going to be on Fox's college football show in the fall. He's one of the few guys E._S._p._N.. Didn't hire yeah. He won a national title with Ohio State in two thousand a fourteen e one one down in Florida and last season before he stepped out he began with the three game suspension and then he retired on December four coaches final game and the Rosebowl on New Year's Day during the three game suspension Zach Smith was able to handle the team and I believe they want all three games. If I remember correctly but you look at these programs and they all have issues news don't kid yourself but Myers programs in particular and you can start with Zach Smith because the domestic violence stuff started with Zach Smith in Florida followed to Ohio allstate but it's also with the players involved as well. You know like I said a title with Ohio State to with the gators and over the six seasons down in Florida thirty one of his players were arrested and a lot of them were on serious charges violence charges breaking and entering charges drug charges so it's not just one of those situations where this happened as an isolated incident or anything along those lines this is something that has played out over time to kind of follow him around and and now that he's off the stage. We're going to find out whether or not this is something that he really does decide not to coach anymore or if this is just I can hide shade for a little while and maybe I can come back and coach another program. He's he's never had any ambition about going to the pros. It's always been about the college game so we'll say we talked about Texas A. and M.. <hes> Jimbo's making some pretty good noise down there and they're going to be Shaker in the S._e._C.. He got the dual threat quarterback as king. He's the top quarterback could E._S._p._N.. Three hundred he's number nineteen prospect overall in the class with twenty twenty got him out of taxes and Jeb Fisher puts guys in the pros. He's he made visits is to Tennessee Auburn Duke and he has found himself at Texas A._M.. Texas has a lot of top three hundred guys so we'll stay. I let step up. We're GONNA take a trip to Casablanca. When we come back and enjoy the peach black don't go and we can older away in our opinion once? There's GonNa be down that road. Why don't you do this to it's very personal matter? A few domestic issues are a lot of. He said she said I care about people we care about people's I moved forward so after now digestion preying on goal through the typical of conversations with few people out you know whatever time of day it is. I think handled it right. This is sports overnight American imagine. This is your money and someone wants to take it from you. Who is it the I._R._S. R._S.? 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I don't buy human beings too bad. That's Casablanca's leading commodity refugees alone. We can be forty directed me for the black market as you run your business and let me remind maybe like to make a change what we do. I realize it in this world today. Isolationism is no longer practical policy fam- Ferrari wanted to work fan at the Blue Path. I like it by paying yeah but I got time to spend the money making all right. How much does not go down to attack? Would I have made out of it. I Know Scott Welcome to the attack Jack One eight hundred eight seven eight hundred eight seven eight seven five to nine siriusxm channel to eleven and around the world on the American Forces Radio Network camps are opening all football game just a couple of weeks away and one of the teams. That's being you talked about is the Denver Broncos and being a division where you had the best regular season team in the Kansas City chiefs and a couple of teams that it certainly are contenders in the chiefs and the chargers and then the mystery team in the Oakland Raiders. I do believe that the Denver Broncos are another one of those mystery teams and John Elway who no one will argue against the fact that he was one of the great quarterbacks in the history of the National Football League has done very well with free agency and drafting on defense and all that kind of fun stuff and you know it's one of those things now one of the things that we talked about and I kinda screwed up here. We got away from the the actual Casablanca forecast. I was taken so much by why the actual song that the weather in Gaza bloggers just picture perfect it is it. It's just gorgeous at seventy two for a high. It's seventy for low so they're right a middle no rain in the forecast todd detail in North Carolina eighty nine for a high. I think it's going to be higher than that. Break out the some block and all that kind of fun stuff capture open day aware and sunblock enjoy yourself in Casablanca because of the fact it's the coolest city ever and it's also no longer the coldest city ever sorry about that Scottie thank you. I was so psyched by Denver Bronco Football. I blew right past the blog update. What can I tell you but and <hes> you know you look at it and it it it's all about the quarterbacks and that's where elway has missed? elway has missed the tragedy Simians of the world and various other guys that he's trotted in and out of their Tim Tebow. was there for a while it it. He's rolling the dice one more time on a quarterback this time a guy with a proven track record who is a super bowl winning quarterback but at thirty four years of age you got to discover whether or not he has anything left and it's Joe Flacco is quote yesterday's camped open. I have a lot left but I'll put this out there as the argument and the discussion before the draft Denver traded for Baltimore understandably moving on with their kid quarterback and at thirty four years of age demanding a hard high salary. It's difficult you know Lamar Jackson is their future flacco had two hip injury last year. Lamar Jackson took the job never gave it back works out that way sometimes in football rupaul just the way it goes but the reality is is that it Joe Flacco can still spend the football. He's always shown that he'll destroy harm when he's fifty the question is in today's game Gabe where you need some mobility whether or not he's mobile enough to play that level of game and they're rolling on it. broncos have a new head football coach they already have flacco Lakos successor but he's a second rounder so you're not forced financially to play him right away and drew lock who has very similar traits to Joe flacco but here's the argument that I have and this is where if you're a denver fan you have to worry flacco head one of the best offensive lines that he was playing behind ever last last year and when you look at it stepping away from the Baltimore Raven offensive line and stepping behind the Denver Bronco Offensive Line are two different things and if he couldn't win consistently with the Ravens now you can make the argument. He didn't have a ton of weapons which is true particularly at the wide receiver Labor position and that team has never been the same since Ray Rice got bounced from the League because he was the guy that they built everything around but specifically Orlando Brown Ronnie Stanley Matt Score Marshall Janda Alex Lewis that was a front five for the ravens that was more than capable of protecting him and more than capable of providing ground cover for the running game they would just not able to get the weapons and have them produce on that level. Now you look at this Bronco team and they have weapons phillips. Lindsay is a very good running back. He had a breakout year Royce. Freeman is a very good running back. They think Portland Sutlej Sutton is he's GonNa do great things at the wide receiver position they have multiple tight ends and hoping to jake thought who's been heard since he came into the League is a breakout guy. We'll see but the offensive line Garrett Bowles is a mainstay at left tackle but they're counting on guys like Connor McGovern Joon James guys that don't don't have proven track record check and we're gonNA find out whether or not these guys can play or not. It's as simple as that like. I said they do have depth at the talent positions at the skill positions but whether or not translates into wins particularly in that division remains to be seen now again it's all early. It's all young the lack of a better as far as you know our valuations and all this kind of fun stuff but quite frankly I think with a year of film and this is where we're going to find out whether or not to Kansas the city quarterback is capable of stepping up at becoming a great quarterback. He was great last year and Patrick Mahomes. I think has a huge future in front of him but whether or not he's at that Peyton manning level Tom Brady level named the quarterback that you consider great Aaron Rodgers Philip rivers doesn't really matter on consistency level remains to be seen. You've got a years worth of film on Him. He has lost major weapons. They don't know what's going to happen with tyreek. Hill is running back has gone. The uniqueness of Andy Reed's offense will always be able to create points but this is where we talk about this all the time. This is where when you're a quarterback if you're truly elite quarterback where you put pedestrian skillset guys on your shoulders and you elevate them the same way Peyton manning did with a wide receiver record Denver when he moved over to Denver that nobody had ever heard of that had the potential but it never had the quarterback to elevate their their game paid. Manic did exactly that that took the teen who is Super Bowl won the superbowl before he went out the door last year Kansas City got stopped by the behemoth known as the New England Patriots when it mattered to the point where they completely overhauled their defensive system brought in Steve Spagnolo went from three four zero four three and it's all fluid you know they play different schemes for different different games but there were so alarmed by their defense and the fact that it was not able to keep up with their offense that they went completely drastic when it came down to that and we're going to see whether or not it plays out personally I think Patrick Mahomes is going to be one of the Alzheimer's when it comes to being a quarterback I think he showed that last year providing that is health sticks around and he doesn't suffer traumatic injuries whereas mobility is gone. He's got an arm that just very few quarterbacks have ever had in the history of the N._F._l.. I mean this is all the Jeff George level. This is on the level of guys that you know bring cannons to the party. That's the kind of army as he can make any drove from any angle to any place on the field and he can throw the ball eighty yards in the air. There's very few skillset guys that can do that level of performing but with that being said they have another year round him his skill guys are gone some of them most also the and even with Andy Reed's offense. We're going to see whether or not they were able to perform. I personally Casey's go to take a step back not just because of the reasons that I put out there but because of the fact that San Diego Oh and they will get things done with Melvin Gordon they have to because if not that with those GonNa Slam shut on them Denver and then the wildcard of Oakland again we'll break this down further further as injuries happen and we start doing n._F._l.. Previews and all that kind of fun stuff but I thought this was worth visiting just because of the fact of Denver's trying to get this done before elway has to completely retool before their defense gets old than it is starting to age and before elway himself has to step out. I mean it's it's right now. There's limited pressure on him limited pressure on him but it's starting to build a little bit and injuries always come into play disgruntled players always come into play the off the field stuff always comes into to play pretty amazing for the N._F._l.. Most of the players actually managed to stay out of trouble between the minicabs and now the camps are getting ready to open a couple of things involved usually with Dallas which is usually how plays out but for the most part everybody betty managed to stay out of jail which is a monumental achievement. <hes> broncos already had an injury Todd Davis wanted her linebacker started sixteen games and all but three games over the last three seasons is GonNa miss is three to four weeks with a partial tear and his calf muscle and got carted off Tuesday a Thursdays practice and limped in with the medical staff. They're not thinking series but they didn't take Kevin durant injury with this calf. We serious either so we'll see how plays out all right. Let's step out right now and when we come back with rabbit up here the attack black he's cutty. 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That's money now the the number one hundred dot com now more of the sports attack with Bob Black here on sports overnight American well talking about the optic field stuff to around Crawford offered with Dallas cowboys goes into a diversion program the settler charge from an incident March Barham Panama City <hes> it's a life class titled Choices Changes and chances and he's under supervised AH probation for the next six months he got bounced from a bar from the coyote ugly Saloon Panama City. He should have been an air to start out with MANDL's bars suck seriously <hes> shut up fighting with members of the security staff tyrone one that one but he lost in the big time and the other one and we've mentioned the Kansas City chiefs. Some kid got pop five hundred bucks for flashing a laser at Tom Brady. It wasn't a kid who's an old guy to Duane. Morgan Sixty four of Lee's summit Missouri faced up to a year in jail and a fine of a thousand bucks and Brady ready set after the game he was unaware of the laser being pointed at a good for the Kansas City fans for pointing this guy out. I mean you know you you look at that stuff and it's just not necessary. He went in front of the judge said he shouldn't have done it is that it wasn't going to apologize the Brady of the Patriots which is the true Kansas City fat but like the fact that the cheap fans pointed this guy out before he caused an incident on the field getting it need lightning or something along those lines that could have changed the course of the game so good good for the fans good for the city glad he got a five hundred dollar fine but you know he should apologize stupid i. That's it hope you enjoyed it opie great weekend. 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This is by Clifford for public news service. We are member enlisted through supported ever online at Public New Service Dot O._R._G.. Freedom Fest Twenty nineteen here at the Paris Hotel in Las Vegas with you in our remote studio. It's in an ARC. We've also got a special guest to kick off tonight's tonight's show. Jason cousins is with us. He's the founder and C._E._O.. Of Glint and I came across glint <hes> because a guy that I kind of work with <hes> in the the radio business I guess he's working with <hes> with you you guys in some way shape or form and he said hey you guys are going to freedom. Does the guys from Glenn you gotta You. You're going to be into this guys. Look Precious metals. You love alternative currencies and glints doing something pretty interesting from what I understand hand with gold and a debit card. Can you tell me more about it sure well we we as far as we know the first company in the world to enable physical gold lockton volt to be used as money in payments and electronic payments to the point of sale with debit card really our mission is to enable gold be uses money in every every way you could possibly imagine money would be used. I think this is a neat idea and it's not the first time I've heard of it but but you guys may be indeed the first to actually successfully do it if you're actually doing it because there was a few years ago I forget what it was. I don't know if it was an Australian company or what it was but there was some company that pitched that they were going to do this in a completely fizzled. It never really came to fruition. I wish I don't know if you were aware of that. One Yeah what I'm aware of few different companies that have tried and attempted to do it but failed so some of not got their regulatory side of things sorted out. Some people enabled you to buy physical gold but then you have to give you a debit card but you've got to Salaam I days then the Matt money goes ends up on your debit card account and you can spend whatever you've sold but right then you just spending a dollar balance or whatever I'm whatever you got in gold still sat there and gold if you want to spend that go back into your APP and then sell it right with glint and you're able to buy physical gold you to do that at a really cheap rate at zero point five percents the cheapest we can get it and you can either just hold their and save it or anytime you have the convenience of the utility belt to spend his money and you know we can do that in one hundred fifty different currencies so it's a really great apple product as well. He's suddenly charge zero point five percent. I mean this but this unreal reasons why we've done this. It's not just because it's cool to just be able to what are the recent done this well. I mean for somebody who's disrupting the financial services space. I'm not from a financial services industry. I qualified as an architect and came out of architecture university good good V._R.. The first time V._R. was cool and that was back in the early nineties and I got from that merged into e commerce and Web Dev and Multimedia Internet marketing and I had a couple of agencies doing that and <hes> there I am you know as a financial crisis on the folded. Oh Seven and eight and I'm watching banks Lehman Brothers <hes> going bust northern rock in the north of England where I'm from going bankrupt and the the realization that suddenly wow so a bank is not a safe deposit with my money was earning that isn't anymore that actually fundamentally is ceases to be yours when you put the money in the bank they lend it out to other people they put it at risk and you're supposed to get an interest rate for that and so that was set my mind going I'd spend the previous is fifteen years looking at how the digital economy the digital ecosystem and tech could be used to do things more efficiently or do things in different ways or do completely new things and suddenly see this. My mind is a problem solving mind and I'm thinking about how tech can do this so immediately started thinking what's the alternative to bang. What is a safe deposit of my money and then of course what it does it starts your mind? Once it starts going direction doesn't stop and I know a lot of your listeners pre. Il No all this stuff but it was certainly a new journey for me. you start thinking about money itself as well. Why is complicated question yeah? What is it yeah and why is it that a dollar used to buy me full chocolate bars now and he buys me one one half a chocolate box office ice and of course the financial industry is great at throwing names at that like shrink flation just to confuse us ensure and I've got a really simple view? About what money is you know if if I'm lucky enough for you you to do something for me. If I say he mark on a set up a podcast you didn't you could help me. How how am I supposed to do that? Then I oh you one and that I owe you that I have to you is a promise you know and I just look at Monday and say think of it. Simply as a is a ledger of promises between people and that should be sacrosanct should not be corruptible. It shouldn't be able to be changed. It shouldn't be worth. You'd be pretty annoyed if next year I came back to your so yeah you know that promise I gave you. I'm gonNA give you half. I shouldn't be the case why should that happen and of course all ledges well gold as I learned had been the ultimate ledger you know I it it started off two thousand years ago as it may be Elliot's been money while I suspect it was quite bitterly and it was chosen as money because it com corrupted its nature can't be changed is created when to neutron stars collide. I don't think wow you know what a perfect form of money the problem with any other a form of money. That's built or managed. WHO's nature's defined by human beings is that it can be corruptible and because the government whether it's crypto currency or whether it's a government issued currency if it's defined and if it's nature is created hit by human beings they can change that and whether it's you know bitcoin going splitting up and going for Bitcoin cash and Bitcoin classic whether it's central banks team you know demonetizing in printing money through quantitative easing all of these things it's corrupting those promises that we gave each other? It's corrupting money and it means that it's not worth people saving anymore <hes> because it's going to become worthless overtime and if you say store at someway you could lose it all. I don't necessarily agree that <hes> BITCOIN bitcoin splitting into bitcoin cash is corrupting huck crypto currency but I could see that it could make it confusing right it adds us. It adds a confusion factor to the new user what there's more than one bitcoin <hes> whereas gold doesn't split gold is just what it is and there's a certain amount of it in the earth and that's what it it's trusted all over the world but but as my friends that said to me but JAS stuck in a volt I can't use it to even by a coffee right and that was like a red rag to a bull to me is like what does that happen. That was about ten years ago obviously and took a longtime to work out how the how the payment system works. I was involved in ECOMMERCE but not the payment system and then trying to work how how to do a lot of people people told me you can't do a lot of people told me you won't be allowed to do it and we eventually I built a prototype. pull the fantastic team of people together and we built of highly scalable payments platform that lives here. It's a multi-currency platform really <hes> enables you to own gold and other currencies has it launched is a thing. Can you already life in Europe. We have tens of thousands of people in Europe who are using a putting thousands of thousands of dollars worth of if <hes> wealth into their accounts doing millions and tens of millions of pounds of transactions. It's working and we're back to bring it to the U._S._A.. Any Day now we've got beat attest running whether you're not final testing you watch this space about to go live life so I I mean one of one of the issues with gold. Is that it <hes> you have to put it in a volt right yeah and so the vault has to there's electricity involved. There's people walking around with guns. There's there's all kinds of stuff. There's cost yes to holding gold the host to say keeping in your house but if you're keeping it asks then you're not using a debit card to do it. How do you cover those costs? I mean is it an. Is there an annual cost for the card. The Debit Patriots action is just per transaction. How's that work? Yes the main fee see that we charge. Our clients is zero point five percent every time you exchange between a currency so that's for instance when you buy gold. You may be going from U._S.. Dollars into goal that's half a percent. If you own a sell your gold that's going from gold into dollars zero point five percent. We don't charge aw if you spend your gold a really yeah because we don't want you to think of go. We want gold behave like any of the currency because that's that's a disincentive right like if if if I have to pay extra to use gold I'm less likely to want Chaz right do anything on our a platform in Europe we can. We've got your euros dollars and pounds you can save into these different wallets and spend from those wallets as well as the gold will bringing the extra currency functionality here to the U._S.. As soon as we can understand following you hear you're saying that on the glint system yeah there will be different while it's within it under my account so I can have a gold balance can have a U._S. dollar balance as well and Eurobond when we launch in the U._S._A.. You'll have a U._S.. Dollar Balance and you will have a gold balance. Those things will be separate from each other. You can choose whether suspend from U._S.. Dollars or you can choose to spend from your gold okay or you can choose an APP. We've got an APP. You can go in there and you just select you know I'm using my gold for the future and every time you then use your car it takes me go balance silence and it says no gold left. You'll get declined and involved in this. Can you stay with another segment here. Jason Cousins <hes> from glint in the by the way the website glint pay dot com. 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I do WanNa let you know about local DOT Bitcoin Dot Com because we love all kinds of forms of alternative currencies. He's here on free. Talk Live and certainly bitcoin cash is one of those you can buy and sell bitcoin cash with dozens of payment methods like pay pal then Mo bank deposits remittances or even just meeting in person with cash. You don't have to show an idea indeed the site to create your account and your conversations between buyers and sellers are encrypted so get on over to local DOT BITCOIN DOT COM get started buying selling bitcoin cash there. That's local DOT BITCOIN DOT COM so Jason. You're we're telling us about your kind of your history of how you came across you know real money or better forms of money like gold and <hes> I presume you're into interested in silver to some extent as well or is it just gold well. You know I I look at the fundamentals again and I think gold is the ultimate currency I think Silva was introduced like other forms of money because some gold sometimes there's a bit inconvenient within the commercial environment you know if you wanted to pay for something in gold and it wasn't very much it was just a small thing he wanted to buy tiny services and the goal would have been to smaller piece to cut off the bar or whatever or making a coin so silver as the next best thing. I mean at the end of the day though but we've done with gold is is allow it to be used into. Do you know infinite small decimal points of a piece of gold. I mean I buy things with point zero zero two grams of gold. I mean you know piece. An atom of gold is worth the same relative as a ton of gold. It's the same same that's one of the reasons. It's his money digitally especially you know that's one of the problems with gold that <hes> we've we certainly identified like I told you earlier where longtime <hes> you know alternative currency guys here and making change with <hes> the the with hard metals is very very difficult to do. There's basically no way to do it in real life but with what you're talking about here glint and I'm definitely interested in seeing this thing you know hoping hoping that <hes> you know it launches successfully within the United States to give people the opportunity to be able to spend gold digitally and then later on if they want to they can claim it right like they could actually withdrawal at from your vault for some sort of shipping fee like how does that work yeah. That's that's right. I mean just to give an idea. I'm just looking at my act right now and we went to a cool Bar Restaurant in downtown Las Vegas last night and we bought <hes> we bought dinner for three of us with two point zero one four eight grams of gold amazing. <hes> you know I was the <hes> Four Seasons Las Vegas for one night and you know that cost me just over nine grams of goes so this is working now in the U._S.. It's just not available to people. European clients can use anywhere anywhere anywhere in fact I got here. I think <hes> British Airways <hes> I bought something whilst flying thirty five thousand feet. Can you show us the car. Can you show the physical <hes> the piece here and it's cool to be able to see the APP so glint pay dot com is <hes> is the website upset now is it a visa MasterCard branded. He's got it in another place but that's all right <hes> you can come back and show us here in a moment domestic cod. It's <hes> it's a Mexico we could. We could work conceptually with any payment card provider. We could work with Masakadza. Sorry we do with Moscow visa or one of the most difficult parts about all this. Do they even know or care what you guys are doing. How does that work difficulty with building? A company like this and tend to currency gold is being huge. We Ain't I'm very lucky to be working with the whole team of really talented people. There's the regulatory sides of it you know we didn't we wanted to make sure that governments and regulators around the world already happy with glint the payment people we integrate with because we want glint to be have immediate utility now I mean we're bringing out peer peer to peer person to person payments soon later this year but we didn't do that. I because you imagine we launched glint you become. I who clients and you go right. That's come spend our gold. You walk into the coffee. Shop down the road and say hey. I WANNA pay with glint glint. We've payment system. We'd like to pay with gold. They go sorry what you're talking about. I realized really early on the most important thing to get this off the ground with immediate utility figure to spend your gold anywhere in the world world and it didn't matter if they weren't receiving the goal right it didn't matter with Glenn you can take your glint card. You can pay for a cough asaki in Japan. You can pay for a courier Mumbai. You can buy a Burger and Texas some anywhere in the world at seventy five thousand feet. I can buy a chocolate bar with with American Airlines. I it's usable straightaway and that was the most important thing for me and that's why we've got tens and tens of thousands of people using it now now. We're about to introduce the peer to peer but that's GONNA be off. We launched into the U._S._A.. This was the most important thing for us is that we give everybody in the U._S._A.. The Opportunities Glenn because our vision is a world where everyone has the same opportunity to prosper and the first step in that in that road is give them a reliable form of money in the form of gold. We don't think that everyone is going to be able to prosper. That's up to them and Indivi- individual but everybody needs the same level playing field and I don't think the monetary system has done that for people and so this is what we're trying mind to do for the world. What's it like you know somebody opening? An account is their minimum deposit as far as purchasing a certain amount of gold to open a keg an you know if you wanNA make gold money. It's got to behave like any other form of money you can open account and he takes three minutes. Everyone's gotta go a bit of a K. Y You know your customer of tasks. Most people go through automatically on the on the application straightaway and into the at the others might need to supply a little bit of extra information but most people go through straightaway and you can literally deposit one dollar. We're in that because I want my twenty one year old son to be able to stop building some playing some money into his Europe so can I what I sent it from pay pal. How do I you can do a bank transfers? You can do a debit card tupper into your account. It would appear in U._S.. Dollar Account I and then you could just spend U._S.. Dollars if you want but that's not the you WanNa do that it's not the point is is that you can then by some gold. You've got some real sound money and you beginning to have your own personal gold standard. I went to Japan recently for the first time and you know anytime you do international travel with a credit card U._S.. Dollar denominated credit card you pull out your credit card at the restaurant you swipe it. Everything goes fine but then later you look and you see oh they hit with transfer fear international usage fee. What's that going to be like with <hes> with glint if I've got the glint card and I've gone to Japan but my normal usages in U._S. dollars am I gonNA get hit with a fee to turn it in what I mean you know when you're trying to create fatness an give everyone the same opportunity to prosper you come straight into into the exchange rate problem you go to an airport and it says fee free exchange and it's the biggest yeah it's like yeah but they've moved exchange rate out of the huge margin on right? What's that all about you know what we do at glint as we exchange gold into yen or whatever currency it is at the real interbank exchange rate that right at a moment's wait a month to find out and then we only charge you zero point five percents and I said you pay when you exchange from one currency so another other you know the whole space is is a complete so I just to clarify your point? Five percent comes in when you buy the gold or you turn the gold into something else on the system but not when you pay the point of sale not went no when you pay in your Ulker you'll currency your resident currency say for instance here if you if you buy some <hes> great British pounds yeah you pay an exchange rate to go into pounds when you land in Britain into London new pay. Don't pay anything else but if you the old one more segment all right you can you stick with us. No problem with <hes> Jason Cousins here with us from this is free talk Lavin. 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We're at Freedom Fast Twenty Nineteen Harris Hotel in Las Vegas D. and mark here in our remote studio and mark before we continue talking about paying with gold via a gold back credit card or debit card <hes> we'll we'll get deeper into that with Jason cousins from glint but I my magic mud because regardless of what you're paying with you still gotTa have clean lean teeth. Yeah oral health is important. No matter what the situation and my magic mud really isn't innovation like glint is an innovation in its particular sector my magic mud unlike the toothpaste that you buy at the grocery store or where you can read the ingredients and you're like. I don't know what any of this stuff means is. It unlike that it is made of charcoal is coconut shells in bent night play now anybody who knows anything about bent night clay. It's given to livestock you know carbon-based creatures just like we are in order to promote health. 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We're trying to communicate over here while you're doing that. <hes> there's a lot to talk about here with <hes> with Glenn I gotta say I honestly it's something that's exciting to me because this is mark and I commented while you would walk away a moment ago <hes> that you know we wanted to see this a decade ago. This is what we've been waiting on and it's finally here now. It's not just some sort of concept. You've actually you brought your <hes> your debit cards out here the the clint cards. It's this is real. You're using it. I noticed that your debit card has those little swipe. He scratches on it from getting from you so it's been it's been I mean. This is what mine looks like you know because I have to stick it at the pump of the gas station yeah so we were talking about the the fees because you know I wanna Ferret out all the fees right because a lot of times credit cards debit cards. There's always fees and they're some some not really upfront about so you've got a point five percent so half a percent fee to purchase gold through yeah lint that then you hold a balance in gold on the glint card. Yes you can then go to set eleven or the hotel or wherever it is you're eating or buying things spend it in your home country for no additional fee there that is right that's correct but if I go to Japan yes and I still spend in Japan with no additional no because you're exchanging your gold for different currency your exchange in it for Japanese yen I see so I wanted to model it in the same way with U._S.. Dollars so if you if you if you have U._S. dollars and you use your your dollars at home then doesn't cost you anything if you try. If you want to buy Japanese yen before you go on holiday <hes> he fly over there you go into when you go into yen. You pay something normally five or six percent but when you when you get there you don't have to pay anymore once. You've already bought your yen's. If you're spending out of yeah and you don't pay any more but if you travel over there with your debit card and U._C._S. U._S. dollar account you have to pay exchange it from dollar yen. That's what we're trying to model with glint. There is trying to do the same thing so if you're if you've got into if you've gone into gold when you spend in gold in your home currency. We don't want you to have to pay anything else but if you fly to London uh-huh Europe or to Tokyo then yeah you'll pay an exchange fee but it's only zero point five percent. You're saving about five percent compared to some of the banks while they would charge you when you when you travel not bad so that there is you can also redeem your gold for cash and A._T._M.. Anywhere in the world <hes> there is a charge for that though I mean varies from A._T._M.. Divided but I think you have that anyway with some of your banks here in the U._S.. As well and can one just write a check <hes> say monthly. If you WANNA use your glint glint card right you're gonNA spend on a debit card generally two thousand dollars a month and you just write a two thousand dollar check to the glint company <hes> ahead of time and every month on the first and then you've got I I've told my I bank automatically transfer. You know I think I transfer about three quarters of my paycheck into my gold every single month and you can just gets transferred by using the bank transfer mechanism. We've got now A._C._H.. Does not the same thing is writing a check back though yeah we don't accept checks in the post those people don't most people don't want US checks anymore mark. That's kind of an old I I haven't done this for a while old. Hey I've got this gold coin here. which I carry around in my wallet? Just remind us how long gold has been used as money money and that is a thing mark. That's that's an old coin credible. Where is this from? This looks like it could be Byzantium. It's actually minted in Fifty B._C.. Says over two thousand years old and it wasn't and it was minted in the north of England believe on us so by a bunch of druids got together impounded this before the Romans even that that is a very old coin as well but <hes> well. It's amazing. It's intricate an amazing yeah. <hes> thank you probably most of your listeners already know an ounce of gold two thousand years ago. The old adage goes would have bought you aroma Toga and today Gold's trading over fourteen hundred dollars an ounce and no matter what Kinda taste issue having clothing. That's going to buy you a nice and I'm telling you can pay more than that for a suit but you shouldn't have to pay. That's one of the things that we've brought that up. On the air myriad of time free talk live when when pointing out that <hes> precious metals have historically been a very good hedge against the government's inflation when the government continues to inflate the money supply inflate their Fiat currencies in whichever country we're talking about. It's precious metals that continue to hold their value. Even as the price of gold goes up. It's still holding value you compared to what you see. I look again. I look at it from my simple nonfinancial brain. I just look at it and go. Actually it isn't that the price bold is going up in price right. Gold is the only thing that is constant in this conversation. Gold is the only thing that has the test list of times does the confidence in our paper money the whether it's dollars euros pounds. It's going up and down and said look over this down. It doesn't go up yet down. I look at them if you look at the trend of the U._S. dollar of the last hundred years it's down. It's significant and I've stopped talking about the last hundred years of the last thousand years two thousand years now. I'm talking about the last in my lifetime <hes> the U._S.. Dollar has lost eighty percent of its purchasing power in the last fifty years that has to be true true for the browns sterling tests the same for the little bit worse for the pound Sterling <hes> you know and p some people who are not as educated in this there are beginning that journey about this. The first thing seems to me is why would you use gold is money and I'm like dude. Why would it why would you use anything else? I think you know as an individual was too hard until it'd be right because it was never even possible and it's and so people have being long having to live with it because what's the point and worrying arguing crying about something. You can't change here. We can change its changes right in front of you or you have to do is download the APP and Android I._O._S.. You can get going with it for the first time ever you can use gold as money now. What can somebody who's in the night United States do because it hasn't officially launched here yet while it hasn't just launched today? We're doing final testing. They're about their about hundred people out there in the U._S._A.. Now doing beat testing with the product into our final tests because we won't be right for consumers retailers but you can go to our website and there's a preregister page page there you click on that. You're very simple your name think in your email address and you'll be one of the first people to know the day we launched you can download the APP and start using it. What is the Gold Debit Card thing that you have their? It looks like a big. At least it feels like a big this is this is a prototype with something. We're going to be launching in about sixteen weeks time. I'll let you feel that <hes> this is much more substantial than a credit card yeah. This is it's Ian held at Hull. The medal is this this clearly solid gold style boats eighteen carrots because it's harder than twenty four carat gold. You want to try to end it solid. I love the feeling that you know when you feel in these any kind of gold when you put in your hand and certainly with this hard it it has a feeling that goes up through your wrist your arm and it just tells you this is something different definitely something crisis neutron stars collide. I love that saying I had no idea how they landed on our planet through meteorite since stuff and that's why it's kind of spread roughly evenly around the planet hang onto that thought here could stick with us a little bit more. Jason cousins is here from a glint pay dot com. You'll I N T pay DOT COM. This is free talk live. We're at Freedom Fest Twenty Nineteen Fellow Patriots. My name is todd savage founder of black breath a real estate dot com like you. 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Steelers Retro Show: An old school Steelers/Bengals battle in the face of a strike

Behind the Steel Curtain

36:48 min | 9 months ago

Steelers Retro Show: An old school Steelers/Bengals battle in the face of a strike

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Yo hey howdy tony. How are you my friend. I am doing fantastic ryan. I can't wait is always talk about this game especially this game. I always remember the essence of this game. But not the i was ten years old time so i had so much fun going back and watching this watching this and seeing the little nuances of this game. I can't wait tony. And i of course are the same age. We talked about that a lot. And where you were experiencing a lot of the same things at the same time and this is a game for me that i remember very well. I remember watching it with my dad and it was a situation where we weren't gonna have football in a while so we're going to get back to that in just a little bit and explain what we're talking about with that with. This is a game that i remember from my youth and like tony said back to watch it. I didn't all the cool things and all the cool players we were going to see in this game from both sides of the ball so it was so much fun for me as well so we are going back to a time in. This game was played in pittsburgh in something. Extraordinary happened in scott foam in you know who scott foam in his tony. I have to say no. I don't well. Scott foam in was the first person to ever post a documented a motor con on the cmu carnegie mellon university bulletin board system. And it was really close. We see emojis every single day in our lives now. I never would've guessed that. That's that's actually amazing that that that kind of technology exists it back even on a limited basis. Yeah it's it's actually pretty cool absolutely and you know what's what song scott fomin was probably listening to the radio because it was number one at the time it was by chicago. Number one song was hard for me to say. I'm sorry it was had two weeks at number one. It knocked out abracadabra the very next week it was knocked out by abracadabra once again. A rare thing on the charts. That's a very good love song. tony chicago. They had a steady stream of Heads and i always get the day. We're still producing hits in the early eighties. So that's another thing. I didn't know and if you were going to the movies this was another situation. Just like the steve miller band and chicago back and forth at number one was an offer and gentleman and e t the extraterrestrial that was the summer of et. but officer and a gentleman with the great louis. Gossett junior and of course. Richard gere debra winger as well in that movie but gossip. Junior won an academy award for his performance in there So those were the two top movies at the time as well. Of course we are talking about the year. Nine hundred eighty two and we are talking about september nineteenth. So if you know where you were well we know where we were and the steelers were one in. Oh after a monday night. Football win against the dallas cowboys were. They found their new kicker gary anderson. I remember watching that game on monday night. Football and feeling pretty. Good i later. I got to meet gary anderson. I told him all about that situation. And then. I said. I told my dad. We finally got our kicker then. I got on the bus and went to sixth grade and he slapped his head. So boy made them feel old but very next week. The steelers with their new kicker. We're going to host the afc champion the defending champions from the american football conference. Kenny anderson chris collins worth and the cincinnati bengals in. That was another one. Oh team and it was a big game for another reason because the players union and the nfl. We're talking about a strike in. This was going to be the last game for a very long time. In fact the only played nine games that season in the regular season in this was the last time for football. And i remember watching this game thinking man. We might not have football for week or two and lasted so much longer. Do you remember that time tony. Yeah i remember that that Every week they were talking about it and ending and it just kept going on and on and on i was i was just getting into football back then. First couple of years Into into my phantom and it was really jonesing for a return to a nfl action and it was absolute torture for me as well. So i know exactly how you feel. I remember. they were starting to play some canadian football league action on nbc and stuff like that just to give us some sort of football on just wasn't the same. I tried so hard. I just long for it to come back and when it finally did it felt good to watch it again and never took it for granted. I'll tell you that and the next strikes weren't as bad and they learn some things with the next strike especially the next strike five years later with the replacement players I i was looking through The slate of games. And i said i was thinking tony. We can actually do a replacement player game. But that'll be boring for your in you and i probably wouldn't be but it's amazing how many players came out of that for the steelers. I think they got a few players out of that as a replacement game. So their quarterback steve bono. Yeah and he went on to have a pretty decent career for the forty niners. So yeah there were some good moments. But i think you're right it it would probably be. It'd be kinda it would be like the whole game. Who was that. Who was absolutely so. Let's go out and talk about this game so it was an exciting time in a scary time when you're talking about the strike especially when you're ten years old like you and i don't know but the steelers were coming off of retirements of greenwood and joe green. They look different. Their defense looked different. This was the very first year nineteen eighty two when they started going to three four so they have been. We know them as a three four team and we have known them since. Nineteen eighty two. In coincidentally nine hundred eighty two was the first year they started keeping track of sacks for an individual that's when it officially became a stat there's unofficial stats that you go ahead and look at saks. We can look what joe greene did already homes. And elsie greenwood. And all of that. So i follow the unofficial steelers sacks and officials steelers sex but officially james harrison is number one on both sides of the ball official and unofficial in soon-to-be. Tj watt in a couple of years. If he stays healthy and stays the seat stays a steeler. He's only about thirty away from the record. Tony but with that being said this was a team that still had a lot of steelers from the seventies. You still had jack ham playing at a high level. Jack lambert was there as well donnie. Shell was on that team john stallworth. You're nearing the end with lynn. Swann and terry bradshaw franco harris. Would they were there as well mixing in names like frank pollard. And calvin sweeney and your number one draft pick. Didn't play in this game. But walter abercrombie was there on defense. You had mike merriweather. Gary done edmund nelson. Who would play in this game. You would have a player. Rick woods returning kicks and you also had dwayne woodruff was towards the beginning of his career. He's 'bout three years in and very important to that team as well. Tony so if you were a fan of the steelers of the seventies there was a lot of carryover and the big carry over there was. There was chuck. Knoll was still there as your coach. Tony yes and it was pretty interesting. Mix of of the seventies heroes in the new guard. They they were definitely in transition but after missing. The playoffs alaska The previous two years. They were certainly looking to relive or get back to the glory days of the late seventies. Absolutely so let's get into this. We talked about gary anderson and the steelers won the toss in agreed to kick off and here comes gary anderson. He kicks a deep to david. Fuller and kenny anderson a gunslinger at the time. A really good quarterback who would turn out to be the steelers quarterbacks coach in one of their championship seasons. If i'm not mistaken he was there as well and the bengals came out and went three now. Tony but one thing i remember was a guy named dan. Ross who at the time had the super bowl record for eleven catches it was. It was since Broken but you also had. Chris collins worth on that team. A lot of people hate him on sunday night football. He's one of my favorites. Actually so that's one of the things that a lot of people disagree with me on but he was a really special receiver for the cincinnati bengals. He was a big guy a big target and we learn something about him tony that we didn't know he was he was. He was a quarterback for the university university of florida and before making the switch to receiver turned out to be a a great switch for him because he was a second round pick in nineteen eighty one and he had a really good career from wide receiver. She bring he was really into today in this period of time. And if you didn't know how good he was as a player he really was you. Watch this game and you're going to find out so let's talk about that first possession for the steelers. After the bengals went three and out there is a few russia's by frank. Pollard and franco harris. Franco really didn't get together on the ground that well but the steelers started moving the ball through the air with passes to calvin sweeney number eighty five out of usc. A first round. Pick tight and benny cunningham who we lost. I believe about a year and a half ago and a twenty five yarder to john stallworth. Then bradshaw from the fifteen yard line went back to pass and he found one of those receivers again for a touchdown who was at tony. It was it was a future hall of famer the four time superbowl winning quarterback john stallworth. Make it seven. Nothing pittsburgh. I gotta tell you now early in his career. His guy was lynn swann. And i'm talking about terry bradshaw. Then in his book he said lynn. Swann was my guy he was still my guy but my number one guy became john stallworth. Later in my career and it was never more apparent here where he would find him early and often. John stallworth was really great in the eighties. As well as the seventies and that's one of the reasons he was a hall of famer and he did it. Not just as seventy steeler. He was special in the eighties and he was special in this game. Tony that was a fifteen yard score in just like that. It was seven nothing in favor of the steelers. Then david mercer took gary anderson's kickoff from the end zone to the thirty yard line. Here comes ken anderson and he goes deeper right away donnie. Shell almost intercepted the pass. But jack lambert was called for pass interference on the play. The bengals were mixing up the pass and the run and they were doing it. Really well with guys like pete johnson and charles alexander. Those are some pretty special backs at the time. Tony in receptions. By chris collins worth who we mentioned alexander and dan. Ross tight end. The bengals took the ball all the way down to the eight yard line. But kenny anderson's next pass was tipped at the line of scrimmage by jack lambert in another hall of famer made his name in this game. Who was that. Tony with the interception. That was the now immortal donnie. Shell the safety. Who who really much like jon stewart had had a fantastic decade of the of the adc. Really his his play. Just continue to elevate after the super bowl years and he made a great play in the end zone to keep his feet in bounds. Athletic move and it looks. It looks a lot better now. That that a lot more legendary. Now that we know he's a hall of famer absolutely and it was like you said he had a tip toe in the back of the end zone and it was beautiful it was really majestic and you mentioned how i was talking about john. Stallworth been great in the eighties donnie. Shell was as well like you mentioned. And they retired both at the end of the nineteen eighty seven season that strike year that we talked about and they came in in the nineteen seventy four season so Fourteen big years for those guys. They were pretty much. They were the guys for me even more than a lot of the other players. Because i started watching them seriously. In about nineteen eighty. So those were the big is that i knew tony me too absolutely and it had to be tough for them to. They came up with all the super bowl so john star with mentioned one time. That's all we knew. We grew up with super bowls. Because that's how they knew right out of college and then to go through that transition in the eighties into still produced away. They did both star wars and shell at a testament to their talent. That's why they're both in the hall of fame so the steelers went three and out on their next possession as franco was stopped on first down and two throws to. Calvin sweeney fell incomplete. John goodson. that's the name that i really forgot about. He was from the university of texas. He came on for a forty six yard punt and the bengals came back out for their third possession of the first quarter as it came to an end so the first quarter was coming to an end and the steelers were leading seven. Nothing tony. Yeah it was a great strategy game for pittsburgh but as we're about to find out the bengals are going to are going to stay in this game and and and make a game of it bef- before before all said and done. And i tell you what we are going to talk about that right after this for the second. Half of the steelers retro show. My name's brian. Anthony davis alongside me. Is tony stick around. We're coming right back. Everybody it's elaine. Welter off and i'm hosting a new podcast built to last by american express where we will dive deep into the stories history and continued legacy of small businesses that shape american culture are debut season. 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Customers can qualify for an average of six discounts on their auto policy with progressive including discounts. Just for starting a quote online or owning multiple vehicles get your quote online at progressive dot com and see how much you could be saving national average annual car insurance savings by new customers surveyed who saved with progressive in twenty nineteen discounts vary and are not available in all states and situations. Welcome back to the steeler retro show. My name is brian. Anthony davis alongside me as always is my great friend. A road trip in the delorean with tony vio. We are going back in time to nineteen eighty two. It's the steelers it's the bengals. It was a fantastic game right before a strike in this was classic. It's certainly was. And i the bengals at that time to me. They were like the patriots have today not not that same magnitude but they were just that team that pittsburgh not beat. Were those first couple of years. I started watching watching him in the early eighties. So this this was a very special game for me. It absolutely was and i agree with you. They were that team and they had those uniforms that at that time i thought they were a little bit cool because they were different. Now i long for those boring old bengals uniforms that they had before the tiger stripes. 'cause i'm just not into them now but as a ten year old i'm like ooh that's really cool so also in this game was something that was mentioned at this point in the broadcast. The jim smith the great wide receiver. this was actually his last year in pittsburgh. He was hospitalized for headaches and he was going through tasks so he wasn't playing in this game as well so the steelers had one less weapon in this ball. Game the bengals. Tony were moving the ball. Well but the steelers were swarming on defense. They really were. They'd stops by. Gary don jack ham. Mike merriweather and keith willis on this drive on third down anderson. He had archie griffin wide open. But he fell prey to jack. Ham leaving away on a seven-man blitz and they had a punt once again after a false start by ray penny on the next drive and a three and out. Cincinnati came out with great field position of their own. They were at their own. Forty eight to start series number four for them bob. Kors there's a name from the past. Bob course dropped anderson for the sack on second in on third. And fifteen donny. Show again showed why they called him the torpedo with a huge hit. Right in front of the first down marker to force a punt and another appearance by rick woods to go ahead and receive that punt but another three and out brought goodson out again the steelers and the bengals weren't moving the ball at this point. But that's another great name to bring up. I forgot all about bob cores. He wasn't a huge name but he did some things in the eighties role player for them. A nice journeyman kind of type player and he made a great play on on that sack of kenny anderson. That's the great thing about the rhetoric show. We're going to bring up some more names like that in the show. But it's great to hear names like bob core as we mentioned calvin sweeney before rick woods. I love it because they they weren't just bums and you know what i don't think anybody. The plays in the national football league could or should be considered a bomb. But these guys had a lot of moments for this team so it's really fun to say their names again. So midfield is were. The bengals set up an anderson went for all on one play. But it's donnie. Shell again tony. What did he do he. He made a this time not not much not as that was another great and important interception second of the game and and and in where we could have been a a scoring drive for the bengals stepped in front of isaac curtis for that second interception of the game. Well that's why he's a hall of famer. It took so long for them to get in. But it's so great. And i can't wait for that induction when cope with allows it. It's going to be fantastic. I'm hoping to be there tony. 'cause donnie shell was one of my guys me too. It's going to be special when he when he gets inducted. You know i'm sure a lot of people feel. We should have been inducted a lot sooner. And i agree but but better late than never he certainly deserving you look at his stats and his overall career. He's a hall of famer right away. Bradshaw went deep with a twenty eight yard connection with his tight. End benny cunningham. What two more long balls met the turf again. A third is sweeney as well at midfield but eighty five was interfered with so the steelers seem to have new life there but ross browner. That's another name. He sacked bradshaw to knock the steelers out of range for a field goal as the steelers broad goods in and again to kick it away with less than four minutes to go in the first half anderson mixed in the run and pass very well it was johnson and alexander on the ground ross archie griffin and collins worth again getting the bengals into scoring range but a pass rush by jack ham and good coverage by rick woods on third down four cents to settle for a fifty yard field goal with one nineteen left in the quarter. It was seventy three steelers. And here's a name that we talk about all through this game tony. It's jack ham. He was near the end of his career. I'm a huge jack ham guy because he went to bishop mcchord in johnstown pennsylvania. If i would've went to catholic high school. I would have went to the same high school not at the time. Of course He would've actually the same time as my dad. Actually my dad. If he would've went to my mom and dad if they would have went to catholic high school would have been teammates. Not teammates would have been classmates of jack ham so really interesting stuff johnstone legend when he come from there and every time you say jack ham you have to say johnstown if you grew up in that area code and you know me i always do but jack ham was amazing in this game. He didn't look like that guy. That was a hall of famer. But when you just look at the guy he just looked like like a regular tall dude but when he played tony he was magic. He was so so special. So solid so seemless every everything about them which is perfect and he was so good and so consistent. He almost like he was overshadowed of all the hall of famer is not from those seventy teams. He might be the most underrated. If that's if you can believe that. I mean he certainly more Overshadowed by jack lambert not the not nearly in a personality of lambert. he was such a special outside linebacker. Innards reason why he was considered the best of all time up until lawrence taylor came along he was. He was a very special player for them. Your love jack. Ham so on the ensuing kickoff. Tony fred bohannon. He played a year in the cfl. The canadian football league he took the kick into the end zone and with help from blocked by tyrone mcgriff he ran it all the way to the cincinnati forty two yard line. That's great field position on fourth and one chuck knoll decided against a long field goal and went for the first down incomes. Russell davis number forty five not a guy that a lot of people remember because number forty five was last name davis and he became my favorite player for a little bit. He wasn't there long. But you gotta go with a surname. I never got myself. A russell davis jersey. But maybe i should turn the steelers. Go all the way down to the eight yard line after that after. Russell davis move those chains barely. But with the clock. Running out. Gary anderson had to come in and he he now a twenty five yard field goal for a ten to three steelers lead at the half. Tony yeah it would have been would have been nice to get a touchdown there right before the half it really would have swung the momentum i think but but the but the salvage three there on the on the back of the bohannon kick return late in the first. I think it was good to get three points. And as we're gonna find out every every every point in this game is a big a big point absolutely and i gotta ask you this. I did not remember fred bohannon. I should have. But i didn't. You know this is. This is one of those one of those names that i was reacquainted with. Thanks thanks to watching the game again. I did not remember this guy at all and he was good the week before in the dallas game. I remember learning his name in the dallas game. Because i did a throwback thursday on that game will be doing that someday on the retro show and i remember hearing his name an and quickly forgetting it my apologies to fred. But now i remember it in phnom gonna remember it because he was pretty good that season as a rookie. So the steelers. Get the ball back to start. The third but runs by harrison. Bradshaw weren't enough as they had a punt again. There were a lot of punts in this game. Goodson kick only about thirty four yards and then when fouere grab the ball and received. He didn't fair catch it. He was walloped immediately by a guy that i remember his name ernest french. I always thought that was a cool name number twenty ernest french absolutely crack them in a big hit on the punt again. He's another guy. I had not even thought of in thirty eight years but he did have an interesting name and great head on his play. That might have been his his biggest play as a steeler. And we're talking about it now all these years later thirteen years later. Here's the you ernest french. The bengals came out looking into given the end zone and they were aided by thirty seven yard catch and run by that guy. Again chris collins worth he was all over the place. Tony and At the end of this game he would have eleven catches for one hundred and forty four yards and that was a big chunk of it there too on third into from the twelve collins worth made his six grab to move the chains from their pizza. Johnson barely broke the of the goal line and was six forty five left in the third quarter. The score was now tied at ten. Tony p. johnson was one of those big bags from from the early eighties. That i'll always remember that he gave the steelers fits but but on this play. I didn't think watching it that he if instant replay had existed they might have challenged. It didn't look to me like he broke the plane but it was really a bad angle so it was hard to see. But we've an interesting to see what would have happened. If instant replay existed in one thousand nine hundred two that steelers defense was swarming. And i agree with you completely. I don't think he broke the plane of the goal but they gave it to him. And you can't do anything back then. The steelers were moving the ball well in their next possession with franco harris. Not catching the ball but running it then. A twenty six yard gain by bennie cunningham. Took the ball to the four yard line. Then after russell davis was stopped on first down bradshaw went back to cunningham for a four yard score with forty seconds left in the third quarter. The steelers lead the game by a score of seventeen to ten in the fourth tony. The bengals countered quickly with passes to curtis and collins worth then. P johnson rumbled in from the six to cap off a six play. Sixty seven yard drive again. It's pete johnson. It was seventeen to seventeen with thirteen eighteen left in the game. What were your thoughts as you were living. This game here tony. I thought at the time where. I can't believe how good this is. This is really a fantastic second half a lot of excitement and and and you could tell why the bengals were in the super bowl that year before they were just they were they once they turned it on. It was like it was like a flipping. A switch for them that they they had a lot of weapons on offense. They came alive on this drive and also the steelers. Were just a fantastic champion that that wanted to again. Get back to the glory days of the seventies after missing the playoffs. I thought that was a great battle. It really was bradshaw comes out. He throws deep almost gets intercepted by greg. Hawthorne it was not picked off but he was sacked on the next play by reggie williams with nine hundred seventeen remaining in the contest. The bengals get the ball back and then they started shred. The steelers defense is the steelers defense with passes to collins worth ross in johnson but a few key stops by rookie edmund nelson from auburn. Yeah the seventh. Rounder was big in this game. He forced a gym breach. Thirty five yard field goal. There's only four forty four left in the game now tony. The bengals had their first lead of the game. It's twenty to seventeen. it's looking bleak but here comes bradshaw coming out looking for either the tie or the win. And he's throwing passes to harris again. Harris was amazing. Catching the ball. He had a career. High eight yards on eleven receptions in this game which he only had six yards on the ground. He was not running the ball well at all but catching the ball. He was huge. The steelers were getting closer as bradshaw was sacked with under one minute left to play and it set up a third and seventeen at the thirty eight yard line but a pass to calvin sweeney helped get the attempt to be more manageable. A more manageable forty two yarder instead of the fifty five that they did not want anderson the half to attempt so with seconds to play in regulation. While there's about thirty five seconds left he hits it. It's tied twenty twenty. And i gotta tell ya tony. This game is close to overtime but the bengals had life with not a lot of time left. Tony yeah as. I was watching this re watching this. I'm thinking okay thirty five. I remember this game went into overtime. I always knew that so. I thought i'd just thought the final thirty five seconds of regulation but ran off but as we're about to find out that wasn't the case me too. I was thinking the exact same thing. And i was stunned so a couple of penalties including an unsportsmanlike conduct. By jack. lambert got the bengals all the way down to the twenty two yard line of pittsburgh and out came jim breach for what would be a thirty nine yard game winner. But here's a name for you. Tom beasley tony. He was able to leap and blocked the field goal to send the game into overtime. Mel blunt tried to pick it up and run with it but he was tackled. That was amazing tony. I couldn't believe it. What a thrilling. Stop to regulation here. I was stunned. I mentioned on a previous podcast rhetoric. Show how how. I i genuinely reacted to a leroy thompson touchdown. Because of the movie made. I did the exact same thing here. I could not believe it was like i was watching it live. I did not know this happen. Tom beasley blocking that field goal. It was so cool so since he wins. The all important coin toss. The rules were different. It's sudden death and you saw sudden death and you saw how this team. Moving the ball. In the form of kim anderson to chris collins worth it could have been rough here they started on their own twenty. They got the third and six from their own twenty four so they really weren't moving the ball. The bengals look to move the chains though but the steelers sent the house in incomes number fifty nine again jack. Ham broke free almost sacked kenny anderson. But it's a good thing. He didn't because kenny anderson had time to throw the ball towards mr kreider number eighty four. But what happened. dwayne woodruff. Another unsung hero from the eighties stepped in front. Y- time to perfectly step in front of the front of the receiver and intercepted the pass and returned it all the way down to the three and a huge celebration in the end zone ensued and it was really cool to see the players really giving look if love on such a huge place setting. This shows up at the three in overtime. I was going crazy. And like i said i knew what happens thirty years later and i'm watching that game earlier today and i'm like well. This is so awesome on. I go you knew it was over. I knew the final score. But i knew when bradshaw rolled right and found stallworth all alone in the end zone. The twenty six to twenty win. I knew this was one of those special games. And i couldn't wait to talk to you about tony. I and i remember this. I remember Stallworth remember roll off by from bradshaw on star with his sliding catching the end zone. And of course. I remember doing picks those are the two or three two plays. I remember from this game. And i also remember how excited i was as a kid jumping up and down in public my fist because i was so frustrated with them. Losing to the bengals all the time that it was so nice to see them. Get this win early in the year it really was. This wasn't important game because this ended up being only a nine game season. The steelers ended up going into the playoffs as the four seed. It was an eighteen tournament at the time. The bengals went in as a three seed. They both ended up losing in the first round. The bengals were upset by the jets. The steelers in a classic that we will probably relived. Sometimes on the retro show lost a classic to the san diego chargers won a game. This was though in this was the last dealer game for like. I said probably about seven weeks in it felt really good to finally get football back again and remember this as being the steelers last game before the long layoff it was too and oh the steelers in less than three months later i had my twelfth birthday. Excuse me yes. Twelve th birthday and four my twelfth birthday now. Let me rephrase. It was my eleventh birthday in four my eleventh birthday. My dad got me tickets to the steelers and the chiefs in. I went to my very first game and i saw all these players in. Who did i get to see score big touchdowns john stallworth from seventy five yard. Pass from terry bradshaw. And i remember that well. This was a special team for me. This was one of my big fandom teams the start of me really getting into it too What has turned into a fun hobby for me now. Being able to talk about these games. Tony so a really special season was that eighty sees it even with the strike even with them out early in the playoffs with this game was a huge part of that year. Tony i absolutely agree. And and one on their forget forgetting. It's a season. Never forget because it was so nice to see them. Get back on the playoff wagon so to speak after after missing for two years i mean i. I came along right at subaru super bowl fourteen and then the next two years. They missed the playoffs and it was pretty pretty Pretty sad ending pretty depressing endings. Freed seasons showed them kind of recapture that magic again in eighty two and even notice only for nine regular season games. It was a very special special year for me. Indeed was and it's special to go through all these games with you. We're going to have another classic coming up next week. But until then my friends remember you could take me away. I don't mind but you better promise me and tony that we will be back in time. We'll see ya.

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Hour 4: 3/7/19

The Paul Finebaum Show

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Hour 4: 3/7/19

"The Paul finebaum show podcast is brought to you by capital. One capital. One is reimagining banking offering account with no fees or minimums that can be opened in only five minutes Capital One. What's in your wallet, Capital One and a? Cried passion, then patron Torri of college football lives. Here is the Paul finebaum show. Our four podcast. Quarterback. It is Paul finebaum show final hour. Matt Jones and Ryan lemon who are sitting here filling in for Paul mumps and breaking news in the NFL, by the way on ESPN. Case keenum traded to the Redskins from the Broncos. What do you think about that? I know nothing about that trade. I'm gonna just take your word for it that well, that's what Adam Schefter is reported. Go good for him. For you red skins and Broncos fans there is your news eight five five two four to seven to eight five. We've course talked about the will Wade story wiretaps now show him making an offer or saying he was going to make an offer to player. Devante smart. We've talked a little Tennessee action little, Georgia, etc. I think it's time to get back to it. And I'm looking for people. I like when as a guy that fills in I know, some of the callers, but some of the others, I don't and sometimes when someone's on hold our producers will go, hey, that's a good caller at somebody to go to bring it. And I've been told that Jeff in Columbus is a guy who brings it. So Jeff, I consider it. I hope it will be brought. I'm gonna try to bring up map man, that's an honor to get that instrument. Right there. I you that rather. No problem. That's what I wasn't me. It was a poke at work here. That's good. Hey, before we get to the topic of the hour, Tennessee, I just wanted to say, I'm really bummed out. And I got a last minute invite yesterday to come down to the Florida you taking Saturday and believe it or not I had to turn it down. I'm really bummed about that that is above. But you know, what Columbus Ohio? I think is a very very good Trent chance that in. Columbus Kentucky will play their first and second round games there. So you may get to see them there. If you want that'd be good because I tell you what when I'm in person at Rupp or Indianapolis the cats are undefeated, so UK fans will want me to be there. You know what? I mean. I want you to be there. I it's go if you if you come to the games that Columbus, and you see me come introduce yourself. What are you gonna will? Definitely will. Hey, let's talk about Tennessee fans. You guys are spot on. I mean, Tennessee fans, and you need is. I thought you needed. Then outside outside the FCC footprint opinions. So that's why I wanted to dial in but Tennessee fans and Michigan saying are by far the two most delusional fan bases in the country because they don't realize like I've heard you say time and time again that that they they once were good. But it's been so long that they've been long ago they've been relevant, but they can't get in their minds. What the rest of the country is seeing that. There are no longer really that relevant. You know what I mean? And I agree. Listen, I like when people have a good working knowledge of who they are. I think it's very important in life for you to know what you're good at and what you're not. And that way you can succeed by knowing where your place is the problem for me with Tennessee is they believe they look in the mirror, and they see they may not see Alabama. But they see Auburn. They look in the mirror, and they go, I'm Auburn. When they need to look in the mirror and go, I'm the guy with the beer belly. That has lost vandy four straight times. And they don't see it. You know, they tell and really they've had some spotty great years where they're really relevant, but let's be honest and the history if you look back, I call them second tier in the SEC. I mean, there really are. I mean, you know back in the day and then the seventies and eighties. They they didn't, you know, turn the TV sets on for Tennessee. It was Georgia and whoever I mean, Alabama they've always been that second tier below the top the top shelf guys. And I you're right. You're spot on. They don't know they're they don't know their place in the pecking order, and it does get old, and that's the way Michigan. Then we gotta deal with Michigan up here. And how many years have we blown them out? I mean, you take the year take the year that fickle had to be the, you know, the the interim coach I think it's been. What fifteen sixteen straight? Here's you know, and and they still want to run their mouth like they're relevant. And that's just that's the way Tennessee is. I just don't get it. And it's it's it's very comical. I think you're spot on that. They'll win a basketball title before they would ever win a football title. I I agree with that that here. I we'll we'll see I appreciate the call. I if I get to you. I'm looking you up. Please do Jeff. Thank you very much. I, you know, listen, there's no shame in being. I again, if I'm ranking programs in the SEC in terms of how good they can be I'll ranked Tennessee seven. There's no shame in being seventh. Seventh is good. You know, there are seven wonders of the world you can be one of the seven. But you're not one of the six best. Right. You you're the if there are seven you're not in the top six. It is. Okay. I just pull up Tennessee schedule next year. All right. Let's go through this guys. Let's do you. Give me the game. I'll tell you whether or not they're going to win or lose. All right. Georgia state at home. They'll win BYU at home. That'll be a close game. But they will win Chattanooga at home. They will win. All right. They start three. No. Then it gets a little tough at Florida loss. Georgia at home loss. Mississippi State at home loss. At L Obama lost. We'll see there's four losses in a row and only one of those games. Even pause on is Mississippi State at home. That's the only one I even Paul. Yeah. All right, South Carolina in at home in Knoxville. That's at home. Yeah. I'll give it to win. Okay. Till they're four foreign four UAB in Knoxville win that's five and four. At Kentucky loss. Yep. 'cause it's 'cause it's in Alexi if it was the Knoxville Tennessee, but go ahead at Missouri, Missouri crushed alleged Missouri Kelly Bryant to yeah. And they crushed last year. And then the end up with Vanderbilt in Knoxville, they will beat vandy to get six wins into finally six and six six and six. So that's my thing is you're going to be six and six worry about getting six and then we'll start talking about playing bandy to go to a bowl game. The in the that's what you looking at Tennessee. Let's go to kid in Nashville. What's going is? There is this is his name kid or is it a kid? Hello. Are you a kid? Well, you're not there either way. It was nice talking with you Robbie in Tennessee. What's going on Robbie what's going on all during the day doing? Well, boy, I've been on hold and I've been about got to mad turn back by God. It's been fired. I like say so Robby I like a man who so mad. He can't hang up. That's my kinda get right? That's right. Look at feller called in while ago and said Pruitt would be saving. What's he going baby with a ball bat to beat him at Chequers 'cause he shows like nobody most football field. Nick, next point, I live in Tennessee, and I'm a role Todd my and I'll get that out of the way. But I live with all these crazies. They wear orange all the time. It looks like frigging hunting season year round. They ain't got no dad. Burn common sense. They think they're going to win national championship every year. Even though they get beat by Vanderbilt. All right. They should not have won the national championship and not paying ninety eight. They should have won national championship back when they lose their whatever, you know, run after the great war all that good stuff. But look they won in ninety eight Steven Spielberg could not write a script to make somebody believe the crap went down and ninety eight they they they beat Syracuse by field. Go Florida missed field. Going overtime. Clint starner's off the fricking football trying to run the bed by clock outlet laying on the ground stealing figured that one that. They play Mississippi State in SEC championship. Yeah. You heard that route Mississippi State championship how by the SEC that Mississippi State within SEC championship with eight brick and wind. I saw. I get this SEC championship. They're getting be they school two touchdowns about thirty seconds to beat new superstate who stopped and then I go to bed barn. Nash say. So means the cafe some to you to say Robbie. I am amazed for a man that's an Alabama fan. How much you remember the specifics of the Tennessee championship run? I remember everything lay it only here. One Housman coping not think thirty five Jay Berwanger Univar. No, you don't get the pick. Hey, go. You don't get to pick. The question at this on the Heisman Trophy in nineteen seventy five not paying seventy five ruining buck would have been from Oklahoma. Let's say no, aren't you Griffeth on seventy five back to back. Yup. Archie Griffin Archie Griffin. I nineteen eighty six Heisman not paying eighty six. Eighty five was Bo Jackson eighty six would be day test. Yup. As he looked you think he's looking this is pretty clear, you might have a computer. How do I know? You're not cheating. I'm walking around my house waiting on that barn supper to get cooked, man. I like, well, you did say dad burn people don't lie when they say that they talk about supper, right? Nineteen Eighty-one national champion not team eighty one national champion. Let me sorry. Alabama. Oh, I think I got him. I think he's I think he doesn't know it voted. I can't give you much more. What paying state Penn State? What are you got? Clemson. This says clips eight claim sin eighty one yet. Well, looks like you don't know everything. But you still impress me. Getting those is men's hey, I'm good at that stuff. Like, Robby, Robby, you're my favorite caller of the day. And I in anytime, I'm here. You're welcome to call. Okay. All right. I liked him. I eight five five two four two Paul eight five five two two four two seven two eight five. I've never met a person that used the word phrase, dad, burn that. I didn't like that means I'm upset, but I'm not gonna curse and that is my kind of human. We'll be right back to Paul finebaum show. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Yeah. You see you? Always you always ruined the music with REBA. You know, considering how much I like ninety country Ribas different. Much Barry, go. That's right. Because why would you get your fiddle? You get your bow and a one eyed dog and next thing, you know, you've got Louisiana Saturday night, much better. Man. What power you have you Mitch? And boom they flipped it right over this a great song. And this is this is the remake by the Kentucky headhunters. I think he's trying to get me condition for all the big road trips. We're going to March madness coming up eight five five two four two Paul eight five five two four to seven to eight are both of those songs covers. Yet. Both are. Yeah. Night. The night went down, Georgia would've. That's Vicki Lawrence. Am I has this? But there is a laundry list of songs that I am just now realizing our covers like what like those two. You didn't know either those recovers I knew the night the lights went out in Georgia was just because the lyrics it sounded like I did not know Louisiana Saturday night. Yeah. It's by guy. I can't remember who it is. But there's a guy and he sings his versions not as good that one. You played is much more upbeat his little slower. But know, turn the page was Bob Seeger song. Wait a minute. You didn't know turn the page was Seeger song. Now. I had it as a Metallica song. Oh, I forgot Metallica. Did that song? That's right. Yeah. Bob seger. Did a fun. See your did it. I I actually am more familiar with the Bob Seger Vert. Yeah. There you go. That's what I'm saying. They covered that song. I didn't know that. Yeah. There's a lot. Yeah. A lot of country music, especially in the nineties. There's a lot of covers, you know, nowadays, there's nothing to cover because the music they produced is so terrible. That nobody in the old days would have ever had a song like that. Like, Johnny cash would never have done, you know, honky tonk, but don't condone. He had his own kind of music. So it's a lot of them are more original beginning REBA fancies a cover, isn't it? I think it is. And I can't stand it. My least favorite saw fancy is. My least favorite song that has ever been sung on in music. So play dental play it for you. I will. But also didn't someone honor REBA by by singing that song and an award show within the last like, and I got angry because I was like are you're honoring person by senior song. It's not even her song. Yeah. But it's her most I think it's probably her most popular isn't that a sad commentary on us and artist if you're most popular song is not even your song. I think the sad commentary is that she did that TV show, which is the least fund and show that has ever existed. Eight five five two four two Paul. We got a lot of folks on here. Some of whom are angry. There's names on here. I really enjoy. So I gotta go through. But first BJ is in Kentucky. What's up BJ? Hey, this is TJ income. Sorry DJ. Go ahead. There's there's a lot that I may not agree with you on. But one thing that you are a hundred percent spot on that. I think the most of this audience would agree with is your taste in real country music, not run lemons, country music, but real country music. I love real country music music, country music turned the page metaphorically. Speaking about the early to mid two thousands, and it's been garbage ever since with the exception of the Chris Stapleton's. Tyler children's startled Simpson group. And that brings up those guys would probably tell you to listen to like, the unplayed lynyrd standard stuff that you've talked about this week. There's so much that you if you would and this is probably a good audience to tell you about some of the less appreciated like the every mother's son some of that stuff. But I. Another son. But as far as like things in the SEC, I know it's one thing that you want is a competitive league. Whether it's football basketball, obviously, we had this year with with football. And that's all we've ever really wanted was to be competitive. Yeah. Even basketball. I think we'd rather have a competitive I want the SEC to be good in basketball at the SEC is the best conference in sports in football. It's the best conference in baseball. It's the best conference in women's basketball. The only thing it's missing out of the major sports is men's basketball. And there's no reason it can't get there. And I wanted to. Well, I was at the LSU game. And I remember is as bad as it was and as bad as ended just sitting there thinking. Well, at least this was a competitive game. And it wasn't a blowout. I mean, don't get me wrong. I did not like the ending at all. But I mean, this has been a, you know, a fun season. Just in the sense of it's not like a runaway for for one team or another an, and I want it to be a better more competitive league that way the the other leagues that are the think they're so much better. You'd be they see see can't sit there and say, well, they get this cakewalk. I mean, I went this league. I it's gotten it's gotten much much better. Appreciate the call. Let's go to Jimmy in Chicago. Jimmy. How are you? Oh, hey, Matt what's going on you? There are a little bit better. I think than Robbie on the national championships and is on. But I've done that with you before we were talking about when we just opened up a page. Phil Steele book and asked you to name a player, and you did it. I was very impressed Yeah. And I'm probably four or five specifics about that national championship season. I thought stuff getting what when I was going to bore you with that. But hey, you know, I know you ask earlier in the show what on earth? Would you say if you were we'll wait it with the situation? He's in. Well, the first thing I would do is make sure that I would be like every other power five conference head coach. Can let somebody else do your calls and make sure you're at least two or three layers. I agree from a phone call. That's going to be tape recorded. Yeah. That's that's what's crazy. I followed it with the Louisville situation. Rick Pitino whether you believe he knew nothing or not he had plausible deniability will wait has done. Well, and in college basketball. I mean, you've got a staff of you know, three or four guys you gotta director basketball operations. And you know, the answer this question as well as anybody. What do your assistant coaches know about all these choose on this roster? You've spent all this time recruiting everything I mean. Including the process of getting them there and all that stuff. But I I know you've read I read this column at the beginning of the year when the athlete did the question and answer interview with shell. And he was absolutely hilarious because we're talking about, you know, players getting paid, and hey, it's just time to get to the point. You know, if we can do it just do it over the table, and that type thing and when Cal every answered every question, I forgot who did the Arctic buddy was great. He said cows answer. And then after CAL's answer he followed it with what Cal was really safe. Kyle. We have had been. Yeah. He he was great. And also that article he did with cals wife was awesome. And that are really good. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Jimmy, it's good to hear from you. When we when I when I do these shows if they asked me back in the summer, we'll play our little Phil Steele gaming. I ask you one question though, and a few agree real quick Matt after watching Kentucky lately about the last two or three weeks. I come to the conclusion that if you're going to beat Kentucky, I think the key to it is locking down hero. Because he when he is hitting shots it ignites everybody else on. I think I think you could be I think Kentucky can win without hero. But everybody else has to play. Well when hero is hitting shots. It gives them a lot more leeway with the other guys. So I'm with you on that. Jimmy. Thank you very much. Dr console man site them did thank you very much. You agree with that about hero. He him or kill them that wall's games. Neither one of those guys. Disappear. They can't win one of those two guys has to show up. Can't they both disappear because the one they were they did both this law. That's right. So you're well, they did lose the Tennessee game. Eight five five to four to seven two eight five eight five five two four two Paul right here on my call screen. It says Mike and Mississippi wants to blast Matt Joe's, you people have been relatively nice to me is it in the last thirty minutes, and I'm gonna have to deal with this. We'll take a break. Hey, putting down whole listen stop cleaning your house while we're doing this. Put get ready. We'll take a break. Backs. Paul finebaum show. You're listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Welcome back. What is this? It's five of this is good times bad times by God smack not exactly nineties country. No. But it is another song that I thought was God's back song, and it's a zeppelin song. Yeah. I don't have opinions about God's max oaks rarely think about it actually did you did you know of the zeppelin song. Good times bad times. I did not. But then again, this really isn't my John road music actually, eight five five two four two Paul five to four to seven to eight five Matt Jones and Ryan lemon one person writes in the texture between eight five nine three hundred thirty to sixty four I want you guys take after Alabama and Georgia amongst the four teams you think could win a tidal who will win the next title, LSU, Florida, Auburn or AM. Auburn why I still like Auburn Auburn. To me. I thought Auburn underachieved this year. I thought I was gonna have a good year this year. And then he just didn't for whatever reason couldn't find it. See I would say LSU LSU's my next one. I don't think at orange. Ron's going to win a title. But I think they're a program that can get a coach to win a title. I agree quickly. I don't think it. Oh drones. The guy though. Yeah. I mean, he's fine badly. He's great. So I would say Ed or on one day. We'll go. I don't think any of those programs are gonna wanna tell you like tomorrow, I don't either. But I think I think LSU would be mine I would rank the programs in terms of likelihood to win a title. Alabama one Georgia to LSU three Auburn four Florida five am six, and then nobody else wins. And I think it's Alabama Georgia in the very near future and the others lighter. And then the drop to LSU and Auburn, and then I think there's another drop to Florida AM, and I agree with that. Yeah. I'd agree with that. Yeah. All right. Let's go. We've got wait a minute. What happened to the guy wanted to blast me? Are you telling me the guide Mississippi f you called him, Al if you calm, it you you're telling me he got he became a chicken. That's what I was going to happen. A lot of people think they can handle going one on one. But then they can't they they actually the phone call comes. They get scared. I understand there's no shame in that. Like, you're a fan of Mississippi State. It's okay. Like, I get it. Just the cow bells ringing in your ear. But I'm sorry. You ended up chickening out. This is an inside radio, man. This is why you don't tease callers. Oh, you don't is. That is that a thing. So you never tease callers you can't count on the caller to stick through. But I if I was a caller, and I heard the host say I want to talk to him. I would be more likely to stay getting mentally ready to get my near actually makes the caller apprehensive. And or scared. I guess you're not saying anything because you got quiet. Let's go to the the kid in Nashville is back. What's up kid? Oh talk about. We'll wait situation. Okay. Looks by only see row when you know basketball was getting competitive more competitive than all, yes. And it really looks bad. You know, you know, let's see see we have a long history of some NCWA violations. And bass, we do know Kentucky Kentucky, you know. They've had their sherve problem. It's been thirty years flow. Well, we can go back fifty two. It was last SCO to get the death penalty. Kentucky Kentucky didn't get the death penalty. Well, guess they suspended the season. That's not the death penalty fifty two. It's it's considered the death penalty. It wasn't the death. You don't want to say anything negative about big blue because it was twenty eight years before I was born I hard you just hard. Eighteen. Eighteen seventy the governor of Kentucky got impeached. I'm not worried about it. Because it was a alone. Job. He he he was had to take them banners. That way they took. They weren't. They weren't. Har- Rick Pitino to clean up the Kentucky program. He did. And he played so. Yeah. Newton's a good, man. See loons mash potato, but. Patino was very clean in Lexington. Got to move on. He got corrupted. It happens it happens, and it happens everywhere. So all have stuff don't think it's not gonna happen hill for let me let me say this about county. Stop talking not hang on the code. Appreciate the call kid talk about because you won't talk. You just yell and talk over top of me. Now, if you want a response, I would say this if John Calipari was cheating Kentucky, they would. They would they would have caught him because they the NCAA hates him. So does most of the major college basketball media, and they haven't found anything in ten years. So that makes me think he has been he is actually run a clean program because they've investigated them nonstop and come up with nothing thinking ruin clean program minutes. I don't care. I that's relevant to me. I wasn't a fan of Memphis. You got to distort program Kentucky where you're going to get recruits understand that. But you know, this whole thing my whole thing on this is college basketball's a dirty game. Yes. Was college football college football is absolutely have. They both are I would agree with that. At present column. I gotta go. I gotta move on gotta move on pan and move. He's my producer here. He's got to move. All let's go to James in Florida. What's up James? Hey, what's up home in? I am such big same so yours. I'm stationed down here in Panama City, but I'm from Lexington Kentucky. I try and get to as much content as you guys have loved the bar. My personal dream is to be on the front row of Ryan limits. Pre game speeches he rips off his shirt. Well, one day. You can't be. Oh, man. So it's a really honored to talk to you guys. I wanted to talk about the we'll wait situation. Yeah. I'm your thoughts on if missed if LSU has mishandled the situation in if LSU and offer needed to stop near basketball programs right now bakery. They're not going to program. They're not gonna stop the program. Doing sorry. I know they're not gonna stop the season. Either. I would say I would need to know what the LSU administration knew. But I will say if the u administration knew what was in these phone calls that came out today in these articles, and they let him coach I think that's a mistake. I do first of all you're guaranteeing. If you knew that you're guaranteeing. The no matter what happens this year, you're going on probation and the season's getting vacated if the Joe Leyva knew this going in there, basically just saying when when the NCAA does earned based investigation every one of these games that this kid played in are probably going to have to be forfeited. That's exactly right. So I he either didn't know and you ask yourself how did he not know? But these reporters new or he knew and they basically decided to play a player that seems to almost inevitably is going to lead up being eligible. So either of those do seem like sort of odd decision. Do you? Do you feel that athletic directors across the nation, kids, Arizona and move or doing this as well are daring, the NC double A to do something to their schools and in the. I think the NCAA screwed this up with the Louisville, Missouri and North Carolina cases. And I appreciate the call. I think the lesson that came to be was Missouri and Louisville cooperated and ended up getting punished and North Carolina didn't cooperate and got nothing. Right. And I think it all I think the NCAA by their actions, basically told schools don't cooperate. Yeah. Just fight it fight. It bite it cooperating does nothing Missouri. Got no leniency for cooperating. None. So I think the sort of shot themselves in the foot, by the way, they handled those scandals Louisville in Missouri. Whatever else you wanna say about him. They cooperated and got no relief zero mobile, title, vaca- got hammered. So in North Carolina. Does nothing fights it all and gets. No punish got slap on the wrist. So let's go to. A strike Stephen in Alabama. What's up, Steven? Hey, guys. How're you doing today? Doing good. Good good. Hey, I think you guys have lost your mind. And I'll tell you why. What is hey, Tennessee hate week. I mean, I'm only I only get to listen partially. But. Opinion. You're calling hate what I'm calling facts and opinion. Okay. Fat factor. Opinions. But by the facts are Tennessee has been brutally bad for a decade. My opinion is they will never be great again. Okay. Well, let me let me that. That's the opinion part of it. But you're talking about tier one tier two relevance. It's all about coaching. You know that I mean, but the thing is you want to say. Let me hire you guys at Tennessee can't hire the me. You just you just took my point my my talking point away. And again, that's all administration and they've been terrible at it. 'cause they've hired bad a dis. But, but you talking you're talking about relevance in tier one tier two when I was living here in Alabama before Alabama went through the coaching Carrizo for ten years, and and you're talking about now, I have no problem ranking than six now. But thanks can change from years. You're talking about forever. We're in the next decade, actually. Now, I'll be honest with you, Steve Steven terms of ranking are now they wouldn't even be in the top ten. I mean, if you were matters. I appreciate you win. You just went through the list of of their scheduled for name for this year. Right. Would you take Tennessee Auburn last year? No picnic be Mickey. You went seven in your bragging about. Seriously. You just pick Mississippi State, and you and you picked Kentucky to beat Tennessee when they can do it last year in Jimmy pre first year, and you couldn't. You couldn't be bandy. What makes you think you're going to be vandy next year? That's the dumbest point I have to tell you. No offense to Steve. I know there's a Tennessee caller out there that can be more coherent and logical than that. Ryan. Because I have enough faith involve nation that they wouldn't send Steve out. There is their Representative. Now, only did they lose demanding. They barely beat Charlotte. I think it was fourteen to three at home against Charlotte. Yeah. I mean that idea of we'll we'll beat miss. We'll beat these teams because we beat them last year. Well, then that means you'll lose to all the teams you ought to. You're and you'll be five and seven yet again eight five nine perks. Eight five five to four to seven two eight five eight five five two four two Paul. We got one more segment. I'll try to get back. You know, I was grounded for most of this issue. We're now getting fired up. Well, that's what happens here on the Paul finebaum show. We'll be right back. Listening to the Paul finebaum show podcast. Paul finebaum show. Eight five five two four two Paul. We've spent three hours in forty. I don't know forty eight minutes with you. And it's been an awesome time. Matt Jones Ryan lemon thanking poll for having us here. We've had some good conversation about things we had that last segment people get a little worked up. But that's okay. Vol nation, you know, been away a lot probably time go to sleep soon. But since they're wake they get upset. I understand, but I've had a blast talking to you. Oh, we've had some really good calls. And I hope we have a couple of end that are just like that. We'll try to Thomas in Iowa Thomas. How're you? How are you doing? How are things in Iowa? Not good. It's cold. And and it keeps knowing so. But you were talking about I guess three years ago Kentucky going on probation. The funny thing is I'm actually for making Georgia you if you are in Kentucky fan, you know, is home of the famous Eric manual. Yes. Dr may make him. That's right. Yeah. Hang player, by the way, went to. And but he was part along with the Chris Mills of the downfall of Kentucky. And I wanted to say I may be wrong with this. I wanna say he ended up at I think it's like Oklahoma City or some in a school because I guess he was since he was blackballed from the NCAA. I think he ended up, but it's so funny when you talk about that because when I was growing up, they didn't really talk a lot about the panel. They just talked about well, you know, a player for making. And everyone knew who it was. But the why called was. The first thing I want to say, it's kind of interesting with this will weigh thing. I actually went to see you. And I'm curious to know, if he did this here, I'm curious to know has he done this before it is other stops. I obviously he wasn't at VCU, but maybe a year or two and then he came from there from. Remember, did he VC you? And I just don't follow it enough. To know. Did he get your ears recruit players on a level that was higher than they normally get or did he just coach players? He had eight the pricey. See here's what's happened. So when Shaq was there, we'll we know what he deals in the Holy See you. Players. I don't. But after the final four they were getting more. If you look at their Rosser, probably since the final four is a lot of national players got not necessarily like I'd say, it'd be more like three and four stars. What's interesting is obviously, I'm I'm really curious to know, if he's if if he alleges to do this here are they gonna kinda do like they were trying to do with Calipari where they're waiting all the schools. He went to you know, that I don't know. I'm not saying they will. But very interesting theater. He's actually been caught on tape doing the, you know, saying that he did pay for this player or he's going to do all this stuff. But you know, that's entering. But the other thing I was going to talk about was. Yes, I'm Tennessee fan. And I think it's kinda funny that people forget that. Okay. You know, it's been twenty years since we want an atom I point quicker. You gotta make your point there. Yeah. Yeah. Rodel? But you know, it's been forty years since Georgia won a national title. So to competitive stopping play St. Thomas, I that year competitive, you can't you know, it might be a zillion years since somebody wins the national title. But if they were in the playoff two straight years, or whatever you're going to consider him. Right. Georgia was just in the hunt for a national title. I mean, that's why we're considering him. Now where was Tennessee? They were owing eight two years ago in the SEC. Yeah, I'm not I'm not buying that. I mean, no, no offense. Like, you know, what happened twenty years ago is irrelevant? What's what's relevant is what is happening now right now. And that's what you're what you're what you're missing. And you know, but as far as like what it will way. Do I don't think anybody really cares. What he did it VCU? I don't think the NCAA is going to go back and get VCU LSU's a much bigger much bigger fish, Joe. I hope you or not. Yes, Joe, Jim who is this in from North Carolina. Jailable carolina. How you doing guys? Good. Jim. I got about a minute and a half. So make it good. Okay. I'll be quick. I don't know if I think for all about here in Asian, but I can agree with you on the point that Tennessee has been so with some bad decisions in coaching. It's gonna be a long time before they ever get back. I won't say ever. I get this guy. I'm let's see what happens two three five years down the road. We might make some noise, but like. Thank you. Jim. I think he can be a lot better. But national title, I think is out of reach dude. I'll be eighty three see that is the kind of attitude. I actually think you should have. I mean, I think that's a reasonable attitude. Jim. So I'm that's what I like I like rationality, and I like reason. Yeah. Because I schedule we put it out six and six, but you're right. Couples games could be flipped back win eight. There we go and winning wouldn't shot me if they went one eight, but I don't think people realize like Kentucky one ten but the difference between ten and a title is a massive gale a long way to go massive massive gap. I enjoyed this. I always joy filling in for Paul. He's wonderful. I think I'm going to join him for a little while in Nashville at the SEC tournament. But the reason I enjoy it as you guys have a great set of callers, all kinds of interesting personalities and usually a lot of opinions. And when I host news always breaks right before we get. On the air. Yeah. Appreciate you invite me. And that was fun flew by very nice to have you. I will see Paul. We'll be back in this seat tomorrow. You all can talk about all the things you need to do. This has been the Paul finebaum show. I'm Matt Jones. You could follow me at Kyi sports radio. See you later. 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"The show podcast has been brought to you by the capital one saver card earn four percent cashback on dining and entertainment two percent at grocery stores and one percent on all other purchases now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms terms apply pride passion then pageantry of college football leaves here is the paul finebaum show our four podcast what i already fired up because i'm sure there's only one hour to go welcome back gonna good show on this tuesday afternoon and jimmy is in chicago and you're next jimmy hey paula every time you have a tim mayon and i the michigan guy since named john bacon yes john you bacon yeah well i tell you every time you have those guys saw i mean they just they just tell you like it is they just give you're blown assessment of not only the program there covering but the big ten the coaching situation really kind of reminds me a bit of they they ls you guys who are all infamous about that they are an i i tell when the season starts i think it'd be great if you could just maybe stay in touch with those guys because i main harbaugh is a never ending story an with you know this being a season as tim mentioned and i mean if you can't beat ohio state this year under these circumstances realistically ones michigan gonna beat ohio state yeah yeah i mean i i listen i think he's if he doesn't win this year a his window is closing pretty hard because you you couldn't hear you consent and you follow college football the ryan ryan day looks like he's got it together yeah i mean offensively he did a tremendous job last year i think really selling urban meyer on the fact that we can win without a pro style quarterback who's not much of a runner because urban you know he really loves those guys that can run anthro an and they were just tremendously successful they had really good receivers and they they piled up ten pinball numbers a in the passing game but ohio states issue last the last few years and last you're especially with their defense a they made some changes and we'll see how that works but they definitely have to bolster that off if they expect you know have a you know a a shot the band they a playoff and then when they get there do some damage but but again you know which is really neat when you have when you have those guys on it's funny the previous caller you had talking about the year pat sullivan won the heisman trophy as ashley in high school and i was that tennessee auburn game at at at auburn one at like ten the nine at terry beasley about the first quarter a he got flipped he was jumping for past that was over his head and landed on his head and i think he played the rest of the game with a concussion be truthful with no he he guys ever yeah i don't think you really knew where he was at tennessee is up nine three they were at almost the edge of field goal range their own auburn's maybe thirty had thirty one and they had a good kicker guy named george hug bring an if he could've kicked a field goal that would have put him up to scores but a a a tendency ran a running play like fumbled album recover and that's when they had the game winning drive the key receiver in that series with a guy named ditch mall sutton that was the guy was thinking of a because he was the other guy played quick pass sullivan yeah and they went down scored on a guy named gardner shit going right and that was a huge win because it was that was one of those scc games that was on national tv everybody saw it and later in the year i think that auburn and georgia were both nine you know maybe an they were playing in athens an suv and those receivers had a huge game and that's the game they clinched the heisman trophy gone and then the you the end i guess i've interviewed pat and terry so many times but just think about how different life was back then jimmy you may vaguely remember this this is nineteen seventy one on i believe 'em i believe this is true the heisman was given out a week earlier it was given out i think before they alabama auburn game 'em may be totally wrong about i vaguely remember eating a or hearing now from one of those guys in yeah yeah i think that they i'm not sure how they did the same i think they call they may at towboat the miners i mean the the final four who won they do like you said before the season was over and the ceremony it would but if you remember in seventy one you had a classic we final weekend of the regular season you had one of the most famous games in college football history that by the way nobody ever talks about it anymore the game of the scenario hold on the grass cut that is on thanksgiving day on saturday you at alabama auburn i think all four were undefeated they were the top four teams in the playoff weekend in the winners of those two games mets and the national championship and the losers i think played in in the sugar bowl and of course the winners were a alabama in in in nebraska in that you may have to correct me on the score here i remember watching the game alabama lost the game so i was at thirty five the seven thirty eight six saturday night and then oklahoma just trampled all doubt and maybe something like forty one twenty two but that nebraska oklahoma game thirty five thirty one an after the game dave kindred of course the famous sports writer he was with the lana a journal constitution and then later sporting news he said after the game whether they can stop playing college football now because the perfect game is just been played any wasn't incredible gang you know johnny roger said the punt return and yeah jack kneeled you're in a i mean they a the that was the first year that oklahoma went to the national championship game to alabama yes by what thirty thirty eight six six three two points right i think so so so saving does not have the worst national championship performance ever fern alabama coach no no but i tell you what that was a oklahoma nebraska boy and that was the year paul that at after the ball games the top three teams were in nebraska oklahoma in colorado exit you're right yeah absolutely that's the that is but yeah i mean that that nebraska team i think is considered among the very best teams of maybe some said something it's the best team there there's another nebraska team that is vying for that but that that was just an unbelievable performance yeah that seventy seventy two usc's team had about twenty players track down that was a retro yeah i thought and and then of course the archie griffin came came came a couple of years later or them before seventy five yeah i know ohio a state they had some horses all know seventy four seventy five teams yeah it was a great period of college football thank you very much greg call okay fall i was a i i wasn't a temptation those a charity event couple years ago and i swear i wasn't i wasn't a car and i think the two people in the car with were archie griffin and and marcus allen going this is like a year use running past you hear a in a in a in a very in any any for one forty let's get back to the calls and bruce is up next in south carolina l a british hey paul how you doing today we're doing great thank you for taking my call and something i do remember from the past watching while world is sports saturday afternoon an l s she was playing somebody i don't remember who but it made an impression upon may apply football and it will say 'em safety own lsu's team is laugh nameless casanova tommy cashman over absolutely wearing a sweater every time he hit somebody they went backwards in watching him you're in that game gave me is that idea of doing the same all the way through my football career hours and homeowners are hard hit her like he was that made me that image i follow every game i played another easy it hold on one second before you go out do you know anything about tommy catching over a guy that's the whole point okay let me let me tell you i'm there he was a plane i must be in play my football just learning football he was on the cover of sports illustrated back in the day played what in the seventies i think he went on to play for the bengals a couple of years ago i i was i wasn't a golf course in somebody brought him over to introduce him to me and i did not i mean i listen i mean he's he came he so i don't know if you remember this guy say course all remember this guy would i didn't know about tommy casanova is he asked after his career he went on med school i believe the store i think he became an ophthalmologist there's something in a we talked to a few minutes and i was still somewhat in a a star struck because i mean he was one of the greatest players a any of us have ever seen as a as a as as in that era in he played late sixties early seventies and but but in any thought they only one there there there's a cover the guide at auburn a really good player greg car came became in a surgeon it's it's not on on on heard of it happens quite a bit 'em but it really struck me that because he was such a famous college player yeah yes we also know in in in the press upon me was issue when a pistol pete was playing somebody i don't know if they were playing you cla i i don't remember but anyway he he he had a fast break going down in the middle of the court and he throws the ball full stride white the the defenders legs out to the sidelines and the guy grabs see a basketball she'd sit and hits a three pointer the announcer just went crazy it's a while well no no i'll tell you what a if if you go back say who you know who would you like saint play again and obviously i i never saw pistol pete play on a but he would be the one guy i think i'd wanna go back a late sixties and then see him play because i don't know if there's ever been anything quite like that he thank you for the call i really do appreciate it were heading to a break and we will continue with more of your phone calls to listening to paul finebaum show podcast tommy is up next time you go right ahead a hot all how are you i'm doing well thank you better a what i wanna know is who do you think are the top five cubeys in the fcc this year 'cause i've got to a first then i got jake from joe borough killing law enforcement philippe price but there's one you yeah you know i i agree with the first two i think the first two were easy and then it becomes a complex a i think you can you could probably go monde borough borough mining i don't think would make a bit of difference you know the one the one the one question i do have in in in this is a wildcard are we not giving kelly bryant enough credit i dunno just seems like everything around him is just kind of falling the pieces as far you don't hear about in many more just kinda slip mind i guess i don't know i just don't think it's a i i'm gonna i'm gonna read you something here i just i just looked down and so i got a magazine in front of me these a quarterback rankings nationally sifi here's some familiar names to a first trevor no longer from herbert hurts patterson fields i mean you figure out what i'm getting at here you've got this is just one magazines ranking but in the top nine you have three ex pats from the fcc pretty amazing number twenty six jacob eastern i mean he is not gotten a but you know i would probably go on third overall but i i certainly am not going to argue with you well also i'm a big gainer fan up there in mississippi and i was wondering who you think is the next qb behind philippe franks there's going to be really good going into the future or do you think he's that quarterback back isn't here yet and we have a long term yeah another question a because i mean mowing feels good about what he has on the roster but i still feel like a the to lean florida the to the promised land they may need someone else is well thanks for taking my watch and dance seems like dan mullen oughta be able to land that quarterback mike is in florida you're next score at oh hey how're you involve i'm pretty good how are you this afternoon doing great thank you very much okay i'm sorry it's been a year since i've been able to talk to young i'm i'm eighty four years old and i've been sick but i hope you're better if the i've been watching your show consciously i just wonder bring up something about florida and myemma an end florida state back when bobby belt and was the coach in spurrier's coach and miami who is having their three jimmy johnson at all is the coach down there and they and then jimmy johnson said what he said i think it's harder to win the florida trio venues the national championship you may be right that was a long time ago but but do is just something that just stuck in my mind second thing i want to bring up is you remember the young lad from up in a round boston it a bit shorter list oh avenue poro what was his name a mark mark yeah i reminded it sounds to me he he needed big be brought to his attention in nineteen fifty three when i went in the service and you know during the korean war there is a boy in my outfit named jack mclaren aaron you is a little all american from buffoon cookman in in florida there and anyway one day is avalon people the past seminar played quarterback in high school and ask throwing the ball back and for throwing an then he went out for the post team and a weaker show later he came back and he said mike king said come out for the post team i said marriage just a high school player i you know i couldn't play with those voice he said we don't have a one quarterback as we need another one the to run they other offense against the first string defense but make a long story short back in those stays everybody played both ways right 'cause all the men were in korea sure we didn't have anybody they stage everyone's having a go both ways and that led this boy no there is a lot more the football back in the older days in the fifties in the forties then there is nowadays yeah i'm a i hope marco calling him he's i think he's probably a family vacation right now guard touring mount everest but 'em i hope but but i tell you what a what what did you play on the other side and on the defensive side of the ball safety gosh i mean i mean think about it and i i'm i'm familiar with this of course a but three young people to think about you're the quarterback you're high school team and you're playing safety on the other side yeah that's that's that's really something that you on there i try members right on right on up because college should everyone in collegeville they were by by both anyway their star player for our team a in in the service team who is a heisman trophy winner by the name of believe as such oh my goodness and he he was one of the meanest these players show on you're alive that is amazing known for is being announced standing off to a half back yeah sure but when when we would run against the first string days heads the mom to come to me and say don't put shouldn't be news area nine i mean every time i go out there and what kind of football and you guys playing the service oh well well we were play to forge to canada years and we played the other posts send an air force teams and things like that sound the sound fair unfair knows we'd like we'd have like say they a fort bliss texas team would come up and play us on saturday have self into the people to do because there wasn't much we could do back in those days where wherever you are wherever you station mike a well most of the time i was stationed at a when i first read it for two oklahoma right okay and then hours later transferred into the guided missiles when they started tonight he guided missile program right and i was in the first graduating class the finish their and if if not running out of time i tell you a quick story right on the head all the time you allows only corporal have my own jeep and three around the clock drivers 'cause they had the key running all between the three different silos around the baltimore washington area to make sure they roll operational wow so they kept me hours or he's running back and forth in one day one day i said hey battering gotta call again over the battery in a hurry and i went and run dashing dash and then got there and they said tomato go into this day room there were some people wanna talk to me and now bumped up and i'm looking around additional colonels in generals and everything he said yeah i said i'm workflows they said that don't matter so i went in there and had all these generals and sisters secretary army they're really asking me questions about the guided missiles but i know about wow that was that was ruining the big various times in my life is all of a sudden all these generals and colonels at everything they do is so what here's goes a little little corporal which terminal supposedly have most of my son precedent then or was it eisenhower who who do you say i'm sorry i said was trimming president eisenhower taking you never know out now okay well at least you got somebody in the white house the newest probably knew what was going on here well he knew more about who he knew we had a program yeah but nobody knew about dollars the first group they went through school no no no one no one knew anything except the manufacturers mars company they manufacture the nike guided missile that's amazing that that is quite a story what mike you call back saying i'm i'm glad you're feeling better and a stay in touch we'll i'm pretty sure hr taking my time they are pleasure great to have you know i mean that's an incredible story when you think about a not only a service a in in in a very incredible amazingly important a time but playing both ways that think about that young folks out there who are worn out point a couple of downs easy made a statement or i will take a short break back with much more you're listening to the paul finebaum show podcast now i resent another voicemail from your roommate shepherd's pie first in the basement completely flooded it anyway office i'm gonna fix it but in the meantime i think we could finally ad that indoor pool party we roll on it i got the coolest one things already oh and could you pick up some chips on your way home later the geico insurance agency could help keep your personal property but he protected like if you'll roommate isn't the brightest pool float in the flooded basement visit geico dot com to see how easy it is to switch and save on renter's insurance welcome back we're glad you are here what about brian next in nashville hey brian great to have you on hey paul how are you today oh we're doing well thank you for taking my call i'm i'm the one that called a few weeks back about the kidney search and i'm sure thing yeah how's everything going all good pretty good i have a man meet up with one of your callers from they called incident then after i did that one day am this coming weekend so kind of excited about that well i'm glad to hear that had a question about vanderbilt football you mentioned earlier in the show that salmon pretty much you've had you've had writers from all fourteen schools with optimism about the upcoming season but everything i'm hearing about vanderbilt seems to be kind of pessimistic in kind of curious as to why am i why were not looking at possibly assume i competitive season random but they have a lot of players returning from last stadium at least in the skill positions and i'm just kinda curious about the thoughts are with that yeah i i saw coach amazing about three weeks ago when we were up there and you know he he felt good a but i don't hear from the experts in and i next week will be interesting to digest because i think there's the sense is a it's a tough schedule a when you start with georgia at purdue ally shoe i mean there's a real danger of starting the season oh and three in and that's before a you get to some of the second half games i mean the schedule it's manageable to a degree but they're gonna they're gonna they they can't they can't start off owen three is my point and and then a you never know you gotta ole miss on the road you have south carolina florida in the road goes you're gonna have to turn some of those games at tennessee game is gonna be a serious revenge game do you think the majority of the neck nothing negative publicity safaris because of showers loss or yeah i think that's a big part of it and i just don't think people feel like from a recruiting standpoint the program has has kept up with everyone else i mentioned vanderbilt and is doing okay but a i just i don't have a good feeling about this year thanks for taking my call thank you stay you stay in touch brian okay thank you great to hear from you a nice call kenny is up next in west virginia kenny hey paul how you doing we are well thank you very much you know is he a i tried really hard to get through the last friday before the break there so last friday the first half when you're talking about well seem like t a major topic was what it took to be a great caller right endo so one of the great caller paul so i i made a list of some things up i just i might be helpful to all of us including me well a i i made a list of i've had a week the think about it the little research and i realize just from all the callers here to two things are easy aachen do one i used ask your opinion at i just can't do that anymore that's that's a no no an old kenny up i used ask questions because i mean don't tell my wife this but frankly i just don't know everything so i i used to do that so that's out so that's that's another check but the only thing i really have going for me is like the greg factor of us a nuke officer on submarine so i could i could check that off that's actually the easy one in the next time you talk to greg asking he'll tell you a negative those top secret clearance without anybody so that that wasn't easy one but the main thing i gotta do is i gotta kinda changed my style so i'm gonna i'm gonna start every call now one like say a gm and charles and then i'm gonna end like daryl from now on an i think was you know if i make those changes i went through a guy that's i think i could be considered a great caller in i wanna kinda try that out and see see what you think i think you're already off to a good start kenny you kept my interest which is not easy a here's here's new candy from now on and then i want you to see what you think i like it a you're you're goes let me tell you something on bump you sick i know where everything is no about football 'cause i won't scored two touchdowns in a husky football game roll todd at another thing if i didn't call in here you probably be cancelled because it shows sucks you suck eagles later bald man that guy's a great car kenny calling out jovan tuscaloosa i guess you'd call it that that usually is the secret to success on the show if you you trash jim that will get some instant instant karma we get some instant reaction ac is up next hey good afternoon how you doing very well thank you own damn i'm having can you hear me i'm here i'm traveling story but i would like i would like to offer my condolences to jared lorenzen sure thank you yeah i mean it's it's so sad what i mean exactly what do you have go through an just kids like i mentioned a lot of time daughter her father exactly what his kids are going through it's a very sad thing and i would i called joes a radio show today our bodies in motion you'll be honest i don't even know who he is i'm talking about lawrenson but to be honest with you i i wasn't sure who's just like it's an trust me i know exactly how it is i mean my prayers and condolences to his family friends i mean i like miles away i wish i could help but like i say we still be honest people they throw a lot of things that jim but that call but he made last week offer his condolences that was beautiful jim you know it was a in in in in i i get a lot of criticism ac a but i i do think i i know that that jim in in that jim was a genuine is any calls that we've ever had on this program and you know he's still took heat for it but that's he doesn't care about that does it but you shouldn't cause i don't care what anyone says about me i mean the pacers and i don't know i like i i i've i've i've tried to explain to jim anyone who just went out wasn't he feels like he had you have to answer sure a no damn thing jim dolan aims to the muslims on everybody's twitter pitch that's what they wake up every day i guess they measure which is i don't give a damn if i'm if i'm sitting just like that the past few weeks oh it's just push a button and guess what spelled out what you know what i want to i want a chance of holding every freaking day up that's the best jim we had last week misreporting ball that's the best jim and that's the we're looking i'm looking for more than i am i'm sorry a ac about this is a great call to i appreciate emotion and unfortunately or fortunately depending on what you're about to do we take a short break you'll disclosure eyes and will be right back to listening to paul finebaum show podcast score or is up next good afternoon thursday amid the job you're breaking up you're good call streak has yet to great wins in a row right there and which is pretty good show goes that's unusual that's that's hard to do moody usual but kudos those two guys but you know different things or entertaining and compelling to different listeners and in watchers i'm a listener and and when you in jimmy chicago talk i don't know i mean you might not be aware of is because you're part of it but it's it is like super computers communicating with each other i mean it's just mind boggling the facts and details both of you guys recalled from obscure games fifty years ago i mean it's i mean it's literally a mind blowing to people like me who have trouble remembering what they you know i i like calls like that because of remembering sports is it doesn't matter what the sport is if you go back to what every year it is and that's all you think about an it's stunning i mean i i i'm like you i mean they're day i mean i'm having conversations with people and i'm struggling remember the person i just talked to but if you if you say nineteen seventy eight tennessee alabama i mean i could go through the whole game for you but it's crazy jimmy can do do it to in any way yeah jimmy jimmy isn't amazing historian yeah you know he's a clinton asli which is next door where i grew up in oak ridge and and he and i talked a couple of times on the telephone and i'm just amazed at the detail that guy can remember in once they bring something up then remember but i never would have remembered it just like that auburn tennessee game on never would remember i remember that game now six six grade of thing but i would've never remember you jimmy had brought it up you know that's the great part about about sports in a it's it takes you back in in takes you back to her memory in you know you start collecting a lot of memories and it gets confusing i mean everyone now that issue as they get older but it doesn't seem interfere with that part mattel that's that's amazing people like me and you you touched on something because all we had back in the days a lot of us was supports yeah maybe right have internet we had three k for three channels on the tv you had maybe one or two football games on a week and you know so you you've collected baseball card you looked at the stats on him and think crazy things like that a you memorize the little things like the the girl i think he i think he just broke the code m nowadays in a you walk down the street street then doesn't matter where you are there no matter who you're running into or watching they're they're they're looking at their phone and we're when you're absorbing all that information it it's not like it was back then when a we know you're not remember i know you're just you're just getting it in the process and then it's gone five seconds later back then that's about all you head in and it's just it's just it's kinda sad now to be honest with you but you know things change in life goes on thanks for taking my call thank you we are a

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REShow: Geoff Schwartz. Hour 2 (05-20-19)

The Rich Eisen Show

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REShow: Geoff Schwartz. Hour 2 (05-20-19)

"Thank you for listening to this podcast. One sports net. Production available on apple podcasts and podcast. One. Hey, it's shaggy now that the NBA also, we can is over. It's time for the second half of the season to get underway. It's tight battle in both the western and eastern conferences, as teams vying for playoff position that I've been saying for months, there's only one place again on all the action, then online dot AG sign up today for a free account and use the promo code podcast. One. And when you make your first deposit you'll receive a fifty percent bonus that's promo code podcast. One NBA savings heating up. Don't miss out on all the fund better line dot AG online sportsbook, experts experts as we walked be suburban garden, gnome Catholic Catholic without stubbing it, he noticed that. It moves like not at all. It's inanimate and utterly without brain function. But despite that, when it got Nomi his about how gyco not only saves people money but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because yes switching to guy. Geico is a no brainer. But on second thought, maybe don't what garden gnomes to carefully, people might talk. Number two of the rich Eisen show is on the air. If you had told me, we would be talking on Monday's show about Magic Johnson. Putting the Lakers on full blast on I take he he showed up on I take this morning and it's not just any morning. It's the morning when the Lakers are going to introduce Frank Vogel, as their new head coach, which was a hiring, that had a lot of heads shaking, and head scratched in Los Angeles to begin with and enough surrounding the hiring of Frank Vogel after the firing of Luke, Walton that still took place, even though Magic Johnson said he wanted to fire him, but decided not to okay decided not to. Because from what he said he didn't have it in them. Essentially is what he said when he quit. And today he goes on, I take to say he didn't fire Luke Walton because he didn't want to or he didn't have it in him to do. He said, it's because he wasn't allowed to based on the power structure there. And the fact that it wasn't fun anymore. And he didn't have the power and on the third level he was being back stabbed and badmouthed by rob Pelinka the general manager. That's why he stepped away. And on top of it all. He said, the c o of the Lakers fella, named Tim Harris was being brought into basketball conversations which upset him. Also. Loves Jeanie Buss. She still has Queen, but he felt the need he had to say something today and of all days. He chose to do it. It's the day. Frank Vogel is introduced as head coach along with Jason Kidd as the assistant, which is the question. Many people have here has how does that work? What is vocal get only three years? Why didn't tie Lou get the job? Why does Vogel take the job with Jason Kidd? How long is the leash? What is LeBron thinking? What is the team thinking, only by the way, what was Magic Johnson saying today, all of that is on the table. An hour from now just down the road. And then there's word out of New York City. Did you hear the name that suddenly cropping up in the general manager position race for the New York Jets everyone assumes? It's Joe Douglas this fellow who's have been embedded in Philadelphia for years that gays knew from their time together, and everybody's got friendships in the NFL. That's why our buddy, Daniel, Jeremiah is being mentioned, as I guess, his VP of personnel because he goes way back with Joe for years. And they're tight. They're good friends. But now there's a new name being thrown in the mix. Rumor mill it's names Peyton Manning. Because he and Adam gates go way back. And my first thought is, well, that's certainly checks all the boxes for guy who can come in and knows talent from what he. He always would say about how teams can work and knows how to make a system work, and obviously, he knows gazes system also, you know, he knows gazes a as a coach. Case was the guy who was there when Peyton broke all the his records when he was a key coach in Denver. And also he certainly checks, the box of a culture change. One thing I think that one box I don't think he would check is the box that says will you be my general manager? Check this box. If yes, why would he want to do? I don't know. He can do whatever the hell he wants, obviously, you get out of the Monday night football job. If he snaps his fingers. I don't really he doesn't want that or profess to know exactly what he wants it all. But what I think he definitely doesn't want in on would be the general manager ship. At a spot where the owner that hires him would be doing it on behalf of a brother, who could either still be the ambassador to London. I mean blunder the, the UK in a year and a half from now or could be. Back as the new owner. Because Trump loses the election. I'm the general manager of the New York definitely not the guy I'm talking about. Right. So. Peyton Manning would take the job but the guy wires and Chris Johnson would hand the reins back to his brother in a year and a half. And what he's just gonna come back from the UK again, if he's replaced or Trump loses. And that's the guy all year. That's fine. Evan organization that changes, general managers now, three times in the last six years. It just doesn't make sense to me that he would do something like that. But that would be. Talking about Alabi a heck of a great return for the jets from the oblivion that they went into about a week ago that was well, that'd be one way to fix everything. Everyone in New York sports. Okay. But then, of course, it would be like, well, what is his, what's his experience? What's his expertise, zek strategic being Peyton Manning and say, well, look how that worked out for Magic Johnson in in Los Angeles. I just think Peyton Manning would bring a certain. A certain. Resume to the equation. The jets fans aren't used to having in their front office is work ethics unparalleled parallel to as big time, criminals Z. How the heck that would work? Big news on the NFL as well. Looks like Reuben foster who's now with the Washington Redskins as we all know he got released by the forty Niners in a no tolerance maneuver when a young lady, who the team told him to stay away from because their relationship was volatile enough for him to have been accused to have hit her. She wound up, I guess, in the hotel room on the road with him in Tampa last year. And she accused him again freshly of laying hands on her and the. Niners said, Viacom Diaz in Washington didn't even let them go through waivers. Pick them up. I added quite a bit to say about him when that happened the second chance that they were giving him cut short due to injury today. Carted off holding a knee with everybody surrounding him screaming in pain. So it looks like he, he is the first significant injury of the may workout. Portion of our calendar. Another reason why people like Levy on bell don't show up until they have to. It's pointing that one out. So that's what's going on in the NFL world setting up things with Jeff Schwartz. Do we have a poll question? We haven't gotten to that. Yeah. Yeah. We do show. It could be the one that I suggested at the end of last hour that who's having a, a worse day. Rob Pelinka the creators of game of thrones or anybody, giving a commencement address, after Robert Smith told everyone at the Morehouse college graduation that they were now student loan free up on Twitter, not the actual poll today. But who did the bigger scorching drogue on of the iron throne or magic of the Lakers? But the actual poll today, rich who's most responsible for Lakers dysfunction? Magic Johnson, rob. Pelinka Jeanie Buss, LeBron James, put LeBron on there. How's he does house? He lives up the reason for this function. He wanted his whole team traded. Okay. If you believe that people leave that sounds like magic I if that was the case magic would have thrown him under the magic school bus. That was driving around today in and I take line. I mean every that thing was just riding down the highway. So, don't you think you would have thrown the brand under a two? Or even. So Bryan, well, if he says, he likes genie loves Jeannie, thinks she's like, they're like brother and sister loves her, by the way mentioned how great Luke Walton is, is a person throwing the COO under the bus saying Harris didn't want him fired because they were friends. The crazy thing is, is if they just waning. I know the crazy thing is is that he said he was leaving. And Luke didn't get fired that night because he said he was leaving. He leaves and says he wanted him fired but was told he couldn't fire him and then he leaves and they fire him anyway. None of this makes sense in all of it is put in the lap of the organization that is now fifty minutes removed. From introducing their new coach that already has enough people wondering why he was hired in the process by which he was hard. The poll question is brought to you by truecar car shopping can be confusing terms like dealer price list, price and invoice. Truecar shows you what other people paid for the car you want so you can recognize a good price. When you're ready to buy newer us, visit truecar to enjoy more confident car buying experience. Richard here in Pomona, California. I in first up on the rich Eisen show at eight four four two four rich. What's up, sir? You bet. So I think that the timing is nothing short of. He planned this, and I don't think we should be giving him a pass, just because it's magic and you brought a New York. Patrick Ewing leaves the organization in those back and bashes them. I think New York immediately turns on him, and I feel that that's where we need to be. Well, you know, I guess I said it was just New York City. I don't know if I'd choose Ewing because he didn't win any rings. I mean, it would be somebody like, CLYDE Frazier wolf Frazier somebody from, which is unfortunately for them too far removed from it, but it would have to be somebody who so beloved that, that the doors open up the drinks are bought for them. The red carpet is rolled out. I mean, and and again, though, but CLYDE, wasn't, I guess, again, to use the analogy and thanks again, Richard. This player would had to have had a position in the front office. And then did what magic is done and here in L A. It just doesn't matter and it after he did what he did looking for Jeanie Buss on the. In the garage area. Of Staples the night that he bizarrely stepped down. She sent out a press release throwing rose petals at his feet. Thank you. Magic tweeting it out. Thank you for everything that you've done. I really wonder what she's thinking right now. Again, when she was involved in her, her inter family dispute with control of the Lakers on the line. Kobe told her he told back to me when we sat down for an interview and he she told me that when she was here as well. The Kobe told her she had to be like Khalidi and just take everybody out. I wonder if she's thinking about doing that right now. Or she's got pull Inca. She's got everything that you wants. She does believe in the coaching staff the way it is constituted. She thinks that everything is just fine. The way it is, and doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what magic says, on I take today. It just makes for a very awkward press conference today. But once you step down and turn to microphones off, it's all about July first and creating the atmosphere for anybody that laws on the outside looking in that says, I got to be part of that. And the person who is the one who can really do all that, for her is LeBron that's it to go and tell his friends in the league who he thinks are the ones that can help him the most come and join me, come, join me. I got this don't worry about what you're hearing. I like Frank. I'm good. We're good. You should join us. We're going to be great 'cause I'm not going to stand for any of this. This and, you know, me, I got to win another before I'm done playing, or at least before I'm around long enough to play with my son in about what six years from now. In the best case scenario best case, it'd be like the NBA version of the Griffey's, right? So you wanna do that who's still in the Lakers year from now. Oh, no. I think you've got a good poll question. I just don't think LeBron obviously what happened with Anthony Davis coming from the fact that it's his shared agent. Right. A lot of people point the finger at LeBron but magic how to be a willing participant, and he confirmed today that the guy who really screwed that up for the Lakers was del depths, then general manager of the pelicans opening opening up to everybody. But if you have no intention of trading Anthony Davis to the team who star player has a mutual agent of your star player who's forcing the trade. And you want to destroy the team that is trying to destroy your team. He did a great job of it. This is like game of thrones. The dragon that can melt magic statue on furnace staple center. Kobe. Toby? He's right now, did you see his daughter makes him sick? Move in, in youth sports all I know. And he's standing, I mean, we and again, we'll get to Jeff schwarzen- a second. You know, I I'm we sat down with again, Kobe few months ago, he's running his business and he's coaching his daughter's, that's what he's doing, and he's been awfully quiet. He's been awfully quiet. And you know, I mean he hasn't sat down for too many interviews, but his agent and compadres and I believe great friend, right? Is being totally maligned by Magic Johnson right now. I mean, there's no other word for it everybody in the league told me watch out for them. He was betrayed me. He backstabbed me. Telling everybody that I'm not in the office enough. You know. This is now. Kobe versus magic in that regard. I mean Kobe proxy verges versus magic. Kobe could do that. You know, magic won all those back in the day, you know what I'm some more recently right here. Meanwhile, the new head coach is being introduced down the street in forty four minutes. Soap in it up to questioning right? How are you Jeff Schwartz? Good to see over the all look book, whatever went book, you reading here on the Richardson show, set. Great Jewish great. Choose in sports, right? You have signed it. You've after someone else signed, it two bregman of your of your are you Houston? Astras sounds Franklin. First, Jewish bullfighter. Why new? Yeah. Whom I knew born in nineteen. Oh, three in Brooklyn, by the way, the portions liberal at those bullfights were amazing. And for some reason, the bullfights had to take place between four thirty and five forty five strange after that. Eight four four zero four riches the number two Jau Jeff Schwartz is going to I can make these jokes. Jeff schwartz. The eight year National Football League offensive line of veteran who's all over your televisions in your Twitter feed. We'll be joining us next on the rich Eisen show. Okay. This is a thirty second commercial and I'm going to throw a lot of numbers at you, but please stay with me. 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I can't believe it that Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit how long until it get there alone. We get there. I'll learn and get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with gyco. What's this button? Do what's this button, do what's this button do visit button? Don't believe at Geico could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. All righty is one of the finest Oregon is sent on to the next level and he's eight years of the National Football League Panthers Vikings. Chiefs giants and a little bit of a Cup of coffee with the lines before he tapped out, and he's making a name for himself in the media business, Jeff Schwartz. Get to see you so here. So can you lift up that microphone that just kind of fell down on your? There you go. There we go. Yeah. We had, we had Bogan on the other day. I mean that's, that's as big as we've ever had to put the microphone up somewhere. So maybe it could stand the stand up hasn't recovered. I don't think he's a giant human. He is John. Yeah. You kind of big yourself Jeff, but he's like another. Oh, that's true. Yes, that is absolutely true. So let's, let's get to one of the hot stories in the league right now with what happened with the New York Jets last week? I wonder what your thoughts are on all of that? Yeah. Well, I feel like they were upset the Knicks got the headline from the lottery and just had to do something New York to get attention back. So they fired their GM. The problem with the jet is what happens with a lot of teams you have a disconnect between your front office and your head coach. They don't work together and understand it has worked at times. I played it for the giants, a lotta times the decisions about player personnel were done above Tom, coffins head, and obviously, Tom Kaufman at work. I'm in other places like you mentioned Detroit where they kind of draft and pick up guys together. I think that's the best way to go as you, you bring in players that you're coaching staff can work with and that they want. Obviously. Right. So item gays doesn't want lady on bell is gonna use them obviously, but you don't want your head coach kind of resent. They're paying a player this much money, they're going to try to find a way to eventually get rid of this guy as soon as possible, because the coach doesn't like him, so they need to get in connection with what the coach wants with the front office. When this happens way too. Often the NFL, they get players, the coaches don't want the dough for the system ear for me. I didn't even fit what the giants wanna do on offense. I fit nothing with Ben mcadoo wanted to do, but they wanted me anyways, I'm glad I went there. It was happy to be a giant, but I think nothing the giants wanna do on offense, the some anyways I there's disconnected times between the front office wants with the coaching staff wants and the jets are simple. And why wouldn't Adam case one Levy, I'm Bill? I mean, plus not at that price, the value and price of what you pay a player comes into what a coach wants to do the player, obviously leaving them bell. And I love running backs. I pose agent Peterson. Jamaal Charles double, trouble and Carolina. They're awesome. They my career. Great. But the value in pay. Them is just not there in the NFL, and the word is, is that it was in ownership mandated signing you damn straight. It's and ownership mandate. First of all, they had ninety million dollars onto the okay. So the money needs to be spent to a certain floor anyway, that in terms of this franchise this franchise got the quarterback right in terms of getting it getting in there and getting them up to speed and darnold shows some excellent ability, and he's a tremendous person, and a great face front face to have out there. You got that one straightened out. You got Jamal Adams who is in the back end in that defense. And he is as my buddy Brian calls a dog. Okay. He is a dog and he culture changing individual on the back end there. And what do you need in New York City? If you're the jets and you have you that guy Levy on bell, go get him. And if you're a coach doesn't want that money to be spent on the on the running back. And he owner saying this is what I want. Then you should know which organization you signed up with this is the jets these things happen with the jets if you didn't want to do. That if you didn't want to be in a situation with this stuff gets overruled, then just know where you've signed to, you know, I understand why in the splash, the jets franchise should be sand. Donald she'll be forward facing which I think he will end up being obviously laid on bells a splash by you don't have to spend all your money. The colts have a ton of money. They didn't spend a lot in frac- the value of paying leaving on bell, especially as much as they did when it seemed to be no other bidders. Who else was bidding for lady on bell? That's part of this too, is that case looking to say who else was gonna pay Levy on bell. I know he said, look and again I like gays I think that he deserves the shot clearly he's just been hired. I mean this sort of crazy to be said. And I saw a Kenyan Drake did in his offense. I mean it was his offense is going to be very good. Good Lebanon bell and his offense with darnold doing Jeff Schwartz and you've got those lie. They receivers they have that are becoming the get the kid and noone can just wonder on over you and Robbie Anderson can take the top of the defense off and curse from the Seahawks a couple years ago. And they're putting some people together here that they have an opportunity if they don't piss Levy on bell off before even shows up for his first ta it's crazy. It's not there either well, because it's interesting to look Reuben foster in Foster's doll from I no injuries. Fortunately, I know you can't predict it. But until you're, you know, look, and here's I will say this to Jeff. You know, if I'm part of a new organization for me professionally, and they pay me a ton of money, and they and they say they say, hey, we're having an event that's kind of character building for the entire staff. We want you there, even though you don't have to. We want you there. I would be there correct? But meet showing up me showing up doesn't mean that my entire livelihood to do the job that I could be cut out from under me without me understanding, it fair knowing it injuries, don't happen as much as we think they do as far as career endings. He's, they there when they do happen. They make major news Reuben foster hopefully he's okay. They make major news. They don't happen as much as we think they do. But in this offense cases off, it's a complicated offense. I play in a version of this offense in Detroit, if a very wordy, it's multiple things happening. Multiple snap counts. Multiple formations a lot happened in the line of scrimmage bell needs to be there to learn this stuff training camp is not as intense as used to be. It's hard to cram. All this and he doesn't have to be in the field. Just be there. Talk to Sam darnold. Figure out what to do with the linemen like just being the facility. I'm not that upset about it. It's voluntary. We negotiated that I'm fine with it being the way it is. But just kind of beat it. They paid you all this money just show up and kind of team Bill with Sam darnold used to be like, you'll be close with him. You're at least there for two years. Did you hear Jeff Schwartz here? Run on the rich Eisen show. Pat Shurmur said he lies looking great. I've seen videos ally. He's, he's looking good. I mean yeah. It's off season. Most guys look good. Home. And I just I don't even know where to begin with that. I think they're gonna keep you lies long as he can stand upright. I just can't see them putting ally comes over ownership decision at the very top. We talked about that with the jets, they love you. I get it. He wants to see rules for them. I like a great guy. He's a great organ is great front facing guy for the giants organization is, I think when get them and said, they're gonna wait three years. I mean it I think until I dunno gets hurt and he's done. I get hurt. You never misses gains if he is just okay this year and the giants are eight let's say like they improve right there close the play offs. Not quite there yet. They improve to have pieces. They have parts on offense defense guide. Beget a better pass rush, and they go you need. They're not gonna play Dan Jones next year. Sure. They are they have to if they. Got one year left on his contract. Yeah. So in order for the three year plan to be done. They have to re sign him if they resign him they need to do it before he plays a snap, or if I'm alive before he plays snap this year. Correct. Because that way, if they go, you know, foreign six to start the season or they finish up eight and eight you do have to basically say, we're done here. Let's see what Daniel Jones can do and throw them in the pool. Don't you think I mean it tries to seventh up. Well, Gino Smith was they went with Gene-o Davis Webb were you on their team does not go with Davis Webb, they wouldn't have been such an uproar. They were with a guy that was not the future. Gio switch was never the future. They said Davis Webb urine. They also there's never the future either. But if they would have put him in, I'm telling you there. The giants fans don't seem as excited for Daniel Jones at drafted a guy that fans aren't really excited to see it buys them. More time with. Man, I know that Davis Webb the you hit on it partially that when they went to Davis that went to Gino Smith instead of Davis Webb they went with a guy that wasn't the future. Right. But they also went with a guy who the rest of New York City had a front row seat to know. He was not the few. So it was not even reading the room in Buren reading your own room. You weren't read right entire room of the New York City metropolitan area, and not guy over there. Brockman thinks that MAC of do is doing the organization of favor that they should do is right. The whole time he was right. The whole time I totally agree or is Asians set themselves backed by not doing the tough thing Bill bell check is always done that, right? Is always on the tough thing. Even the colts pay demanding one year hurt getting older. All right. We'll get Andrew lock move on the giants. Just don't seem at least hourly to want to do that. It's holding them back. They should have drafted donor last year. Never had this problem drafted a running back instead of a franchise quarterback makes no sense to me, Jeff Schwartz here on the rich Eisen show. And right now, as we're sitting here. The Monday before Memorial Day. I don't see a team it's going to beat the patriots this year. I just don't I on the only way that the patriots could be beaten just knowing what they've got coming back. And I know that gronk not there everyone's gonna take that cheese. Gronk, not there. To everyone is going to keep eating that cheese September and first parts of October, when they have trouble potentially on everyone's gonna keep taking that cheese. And to me, I'm not taking it because I know that Bella checks going to have this team in a certain spot by a certain week. The only thing that can hold them back is if suddenly Brady's physical attributes fall apart, just because that's what happens to people got in this more, even though you're ease Instagram ING. I'm pictures of him looking. He looked fit dynamite. Okay. And he is working out in may. That's the only way that I see tell me I'm on wrong, and I don't say that, meaning that I have to be right. But I I'm open for suggestions here. The one thing they can do it is the chiefs. We saw them lose at home last year. The difference in twenty one thousand nine hundred opinion the patriots will have home field advantage throughout the playoffs their schedules. That's perfectly twelve and four thirteen and three and to your point. I can't see anyone going to New England and winning that game. If it was back in Kansas City, learning after last records. See the chiefs doing it. My brother, obviously plays with the chiefs, I root for the chiefs, but they're gonna take a little step back of tar kills not there, obviously, you have to replace and they did last year Kareem hunt. Everything went really well for the chiefs last year defense transitioning with spags probably won't be as kind of their throughout the year of getting they improve. I to your point. New england. Look, they drafted into keel Harry to be that big possession wide receiver right? Chase winners, which I liked that pick as well all corner. And Juwan Williams, who is six three can play press can do whatever they want their defense interchangeable parts. And again, their schedule sets up great. They have their toughest games. I believe, chiefs at home, right at home Cowboys at home every at home, they're going to be thirteen and three and four have home field throughout and the only team chiefs on the only team. I think they can go to can't go to New England in late January with Pamela homes and even can compete in that game. Well, we'll see what the colts morph into, if they can maybe take even another quantum leap forward. The quantum leap that they took us you. Nobody saw coming right? If they've got another, one in them, I'm, I'm, I'm willing to see that I'm willing to see what the chargers can do. There's always a surprise team. I don't know which one it is the Steelers minus bell. I like this. And, and Brown they're going to be able to use the nobody believes in his car. Never able to us, and we got Joe manganiello coming up in studio in our number three to discuss that and thrones. You know what about the Rams? What about what we saw from the Rams that they that they couldn't score on the patriots? But if given another chance a mulligan. Yeah, with another round of McVeigh injecting his genius into the equation. What do you think here? I appreciate it McVay mitt he over prepared for that game. It was totally obvious. They just they looked like they had. They just were too confused on what's happening. I like the Cowboys in the NFC. I told you that Brockman, I wrote about this other day. I Tom that Chris, you did every day here in the NFC. There's a different team kind of out of nowhere. The the falcons the eagles. The Rams last year. We were common known quantity every year. There seems to be the Panthers and fifteen out of nowhere team comes up in the Cowboys last year. Obviously were in the playoffs. We have not had a repeat winner in the NFC since two thousand four so they're gonna have. And they're gonna have to break that trend, obviously, I think, to get back to where the want to go. But you added Randall Cobb great second way, fringy signing Amari Cooper, yet, win Travis Frederick, being back at Senator is a huge plus for them. How so last year, they had a problem the first eight weeks of the year, it really when they're off its long coaches fire to help. They just were not idea, who they were they made so many mental mistakes of not just knowing who they were working to it was mind blowing, and that can make you you're young quarterback. Look, totally confused. And also just blows up your run game, everything Frederick has back there. Helping offense align now and DeMarcus Lawrence Crawford. They have great linebackers. They have a good back end of their secondary. The giants aren't that strong eagles are going to be good. The Redskins aren't that strong in my opinion. I think the Cowboys, I if Dax can take the next step, which will see what the weapons he has. I didn't they're going to do you put a three in front of an eight figure annual salary for deck Prescott Jeff Schwartz. Oh man. Because that's, that's that. That's what the market. I know. I know this is tough. Tough. I doubt you not. I think that is not elite but the Cowboys are stuck. I mean you have to pay him and just hope you surround him with parts that helped him. Is he not elite though because he hasn't dominated like Patrick Mahomes? Did he or to that we know what I'm saying? Are we are reviewing him through the prism of other peop- other people's quarterbacks have been doing this? We've seen when his when his weapons have been limited, he has not been able to raise his play above those weapons, where other people have been able to do that as Bishop. That's why this year with Cobb there and Cooper, a hope in this offense with Kelham more. They're more aggressive. I wanna see that I wanted to offense. Seems like what thirty. It's wild. I hope they're more aggressive. I wanna see a different offense in Dallas before it completely make my judgment on Prescott telling you, I told brogden division, and you wrote about this Jeff schwarzen- SB. I don't know what their what their number is in Vegas, but I, I liked them a lot, by the way, you've got a gambling brother in arms over there. There we go. I haven't I haven't looked at the future for that look up. I mean did you who did you have like individual points in a game that you are complaining about? Yeah. Yeah. He had twenty two points, entering the fourth quarter, twenty three and a half. You didn't make me single six. Six in the fourth quarter. We wondered what happened. Now, we know and then last night, I over twenty three and a half again. It would Twenty-three misfiled shots. There's this. I don't I'm not I don't gamble. Jeff, I'm not allowed to, I would suggest you just get off the CJ McCollum bandwaggon. Plus, you're thinking tonight. He's do I. That tonight I've been pretty hot NBA. I was a three yesterday. So it was awesome curry over. I'd, I'd raptors first quarter first-half in bucks. Third quarter. What he got tonight for all of our, I have not decided on tonight. I feel like it's an in game wagering night. I don't really like anything right now under I love the live betting maybe under is played before the game. Yeah. Why do you think that? The warriors go under a lot without Kevin Durant. Okay. And the blazers and with Dan Lewis injury, just haven't been scoring as much. I think you'll be tight tonight. The question is, do they come out in the first quarter and go really hard? I'm kind of tempted to say that warriors come out fast in this game to just put an end to the series. My gosh. We'll see we have we have what we have eight hours to, to decide what, what you figure your Lakers down the street. Oh, dumpster fire. I don't think it's going to be good till genie sells the team. She's not selling the team. Itchy. No. She shouldn't tell the team five billion dollars. They can go ahead. That's why probably any general manager. They wanted to come in a fix this and just they just don't want to do what she wants to stay in house and the Rams his help. But what are the Rams has no about about foot basketball, the basketball side of this thing like actually like player development, and that type of stuff and drafting also look LeBron was supposed to bring in another player and that has not happened yet? Well, let's see July one's big to July July. One is a huge. Yes. Huge week if they fail. The lifted for the warriors, the Knicks, the Lakers, the nets the Celtics elegant just off the top of my head. The pelicans Sixers. Just off the top of my head. I just name those teams writers raptors to the clippers clippers might get or have the leader team, the Lakers because p players don't want to play for the Lakers. I'm never to have be clippers have two aces in the home three. They've got the owner coach and Jerry West that can walk in the room. The owner could basically say I am not, but I am rich and I love I love my team. And this is all I care about. Okay. And Doc Rivers can say look what I did last year, but only who call Doc Rivers, the coach of the year candidate in December give you credit right? And he's one of the three finalists, I gave you credit, okay? And Jerry West can basically say, just look, by the way, you see the logo right there, that's me. That's me. And you do you know what I do with the Lakers. Did you see what I did with my I got handed a bunch of lemons from the lemonade of a top overall pick in a draft lottery? Fourth overall. I chose my Conley. Guess what? I did with the warriors. You see that you see that up there who's the want to whisper it to Durant? Would come here Jerry West agreed. So I'm saying okay, so Espy nation is how everyone where else can we Schwartz? I have a website that's gonna be ready soon Schwartz. NFL dot com. It's getting it that's going to be my go-to says saying my Twitter handle go. They're getting up. Be should should be soon. We can have. G. E. O F S. How you spell exactly okay? Jeff schwarzer? Thanks for your in town. I'll have you on anytime. Jeff Schwartz here on the rich Eisen show. Still to come Joe Manganelli. We'll talk some thrones with one of the most die-hard Steeler fans. We know as well. He's making his way to the studio to just do exactly that, that's coming up here in the rich Eisen show. Eight four four zero four. Rich is also the member to dog, great old gen stat when we come back in regards to Brooks KEPCO in a moment. Have you checked out the big podcast with shack? Your podcast one. Yeah. 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Just shows you in golf finishing second means you're close to finishing. I that makes sense to you. Does it feel like though? And I said this yesterday, doesn't it feel like when the moment is there for the taking for Dustin Johnson? He never rises to meet that challenge and take it. He always comes so cl-. I don't. To have it, and then he hits it. He didn't immediately goes bogey-bogey, like KEPCO was falling apart at the seams daring, Dustin Johnson to just come take this championship away, and he goes, bogey-bogey, man. I mean you heard Cup could come off the course and he's just like that was a long day off four straight bogeys on the back. But we're but we're sitting here thinking ourselves this guy's on cruise control. He's fine. He's not. It's the most mental game there could be especially just holding on leave that have to have such focus. I don't have it for even one split second on the golf course. No chain. You have to have such amazing focus to put two shots together. 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"It's all about me. Dan, Patrick gas. There is more where that came from click back for new episodes all week, log from the Mercedes men cake. Here's Dan Patrick when lower on this Monday best and worst the weekend. More of your phone calls. Emails tweets. We'll check in with the chargers. Anthony Lynn the head. Coach of the chargers will join us coming up. Also check in with the Cowboys. They're great linebacker jailing. Smith will stop by as well. Eight seven seven three DP show, Email address DP, Dan, Patrick dot com. Twitter handle at DP show, say good morning to our TV partners direct TV audience network. That's channel to Thirty-nine NBC sports network and our three hundred thirty six radio Phillies around America. It'll be Tom Brady and Philip rivers. It'll be the chargers patriots. But it'll be the Thirty-seven-year-old Philip rivers taking on the forty one year old Tom Brady combined age of seventy eight the oldest ever for two starting quarterbacks in an NFL postseason game. And I'm looking. At the weather forecast. Now, obviously it can change. But they're looking at highs in the thirties. Lows around fifteen or sixteen degrees. I don't see snow in the forecast right now for New England. But if you're the chargers, you just went to Baltimore you head back home. And now, you gotta go across country to face the patriots in New England sa- great team well rounded team, and you survive Lamar Jackson, and it's not a good day to be Lamar Jackson in Baltimore. The Baltimore sun's Mike Preston as a column he asked if Lamar Jackson is the next Kyle fuller. That's mean-spirited, by the way, eight weeks ago eight weeks ago, we had questions about Lamar Jackson was he going to be able to improve his accuracy. Could he pass from the pocket? Cody win games. Could. He lied comebacks. And it feels like they're still asking those questions in Baltimore because he didn't look good yesterday. At all. Now, give the chargers a lot of credit because they came up with the defense put a lot more defensive backs in there, and you're spying on the Mark Jackson, and you're going to have him. I mean, this is no secret. You wanna more Jackson in the pocket? Okay. You came up with the defense that was able to do that until the final five six minutes of the fourth quarter. Is he Kyle Kyle bowler was turned out to be a bust. But he was a pocket quarterback. Lamar jackson. If you're committed to him as the ravens appear to be then you structure your offense you build your offense around him. And you try to take advantage of his talents. You try to cover up his faults. Can he stay healthy? Is he going to be able to improve his accuracy there? Those are things that he's got to work on. But I still look at him as a work in progress. Okay. He's he's acting more like a rookie quarterback. And that is you have faults. They find your fault. It doesn't take long for defensive coordinator to go. You know, what if we do this, and this we can take away that in that? I mean, Bella checks been doing this for his entire career. Okay. He does it as a high level and he's able to adjust quarter to quarter with his defenses. Yep. Sandiego the LA chargers. Where you go. Okay. We have a new defense. Here. We're going to do something different with Lamar Jackson, and they shut him down. What about the other teams in the other games because those defenses weren't able to do that you have to have a certain defense to be able to do it. The chargers were able to do that with Lamar Jackson sought. I I wouldn't am I committed to him they committed to him sooner because of flack owes injury. And then they started winning. And then you're not going to change. I wouldn't have changed. I'm curious. If Anthony Lynn thought that Joe flacco was coming in that game. The chargers. Head coach joins us the continental tire coaches corner. Coach, congratulations. Let me start with that question. Were you expecting Joe flacco? You know, we would Joel. And we talk about allies at one point that they might put Joe in. So if it came in a game, we'd have been ready the defense that you came up with how long was that in the works to to to being able to go against Lamar Jackson a couple of weeks prior how much of advantage was that to that defense. You know, I it it definitely gave us more looks. And and we had a chance to come up with more Tennessee's that they were showing like when you know when the more I came on the scene. It just wasn't a lot of tape on him. But the more games he played you start looking at the tape, and you see some some tendencies that they had and and it worked in our favorite because it was right on money. Not even staff that a heck of a job of dust acting that team and coming out with players what happened in the fourth quarter there in the final five minutes. Six minutes. Well, you know, this is only feel a lot, but they went to the no huddle, and they actually move the ball pretty good in Ohio and tomorrow in around, and he he made some plays with his arm. He made some plays with his legs. But no we at the same time. We could have done better Java stand on top and not giving up big plays. Like, we did have. You checked the weather forecast in New England. Not really. The us with. Okay. All right. I'm just curious. Like like, are you just? Over the last week every time we've gone east. We've gotten outstanding weather. I mean, you go to Pittsburgh in December. And you go to Kensington, December weather. It was just fine. You go to Denver and December the weather was just fine. So we've we've been blessed that way, why are you guys go on the road? Great on the road. It always we have to football team. And always we started, you know, one of the things he wanted to be was tough. And then and they guys they've they've responded Atlanta's Matt versity, they didn't complain, you know, make excuses they they stuck together and they've really resilient and gritty, and I just think those type of teams, you know, they say well road. And I was I was on one of those teams in Denver ninety seven we play well in the world year, and and it same thing throughout the playoffs. But this team is built that way. Man, they care about one another, and and I think they they kinda like going into these hostile environments. Whereas kinda like you go in back to back hoe. No having each other's back. They kind of like that. Can you name all the Philip rivers kids? Yeah. I've met them. But no. Some blessed to have a big family, and and how the resources what big fan. I think that there's never a boy moment. I can tell you that. Can you beat him in a forty yard dash? I hope so. Been a former running back at home. But he yesterday, you know, we had a kid break out on interception that they called back and I didn't section but the fumble regarded to call back in. I mean, Philip buckle. He's going to catch him. He was Humphrey Bobbi Humphrey son, and they can run now and fill those pretty good for a little while. How is that plane ride back for you guys? It was fun. It's fine. You know, as long plane ride back, you know, guys hydrated. But it was definitely fun continental tire coaches corner. Brings us Anthony land the chargers head coach I saw where you call. Todd. Haley brothers from life. Can you can you give us just a late the cliff notes version of you know, why you feel like Todd Haley is brother for life or tell you. He was for me at one of my worst moments. You know? I was out having a piece of a couple of puffs in. I I ended up any hit by drunk driver. And ball means twice the diet that night he got hit by a car going sixty miles an hour. He used three times the legal limit drunk. But also by then Thomas with me the whole time. I mean, we were friends before that. But after that night, it was it was it was it was a special bond because I just remember him confident me and telling me, I was gonna make it gonna be alright when I really didn't think was, but that was that was a special moment just the way the situation, and and you know, and after that he went through a lot, you know, 'cause he watch me get hit and fifty feet narrow and land on other side of the road. Total a Volkswagen landed on and he he saw it on and it really affected him for a long time. And you know, he had made it to me they had to get some help because you can get those visions of his head. And so we talked about this for years math. And and it just kind of made us closer. Yeah. I saw. So some reports said that you were bloodied and unconscious you woke up and Todd Haley holding your head off the ground. And then get an e thought maybe repair light. Like did did you wonder sometimes when you get injured? You don't realize how injured you are at somebody. Who's there with you to say, no, you're in trouble here? Stay down. Did you need that somebody? Thank Todd telling you are definitely new I know ideal what had happened and kept trying to get up, and I really couldn't get up, and I couldn't feel my legs, and you know, for two days, I could feel my lower body. And so, you know, and I was just holding my head up off the pavement making me as comfortable as possible into the into the animals, but I don't remember much about that night. But I do remember being that accommodate me. And that meant a lot. I love that. You're saying like, dude, why are you staring at me? He's gotta be taking how the hell are you alive? You know, we're 'cause we would be coaching meetings. And I could just feel someone to start at me. And I look at coffee table do stuff started. I mean, he's he whisper I can't believe you're alive. Well, then I mean, you can't be fearful going into New England. I mean, given what you've done who cares. Where you go to Pittsburgh, go to Denver banner. Right. No for. For a full. We'll play any anybody anywhere. And you know, it's gonna be heck of a challenge Saudi in New England in those guys they've been champions for a long time won a lot of hardware. And it's kind of, you know, there'd be no gonna win that sucker. You gotta go through them. And and we're gonna go and give it our best shot. And you know, we're going right now getting guys prepared have outstanding coaches staff. I know we will be prepared. And we'll see who executes the best you bring your Super Bowl ring out at all. You know, I don't because the team that I won the Super Bowl rings with or in the same division. So. Okay. Okay. We're. Come on. It's like it's like drop the mic just go in there. Get your Super Bowl ring and just drop it on the table. And then one out I want to help these guys get their own football rain. That's what I wanna do. And then I definitely bring it out. Well, good luck and great season, so far and safe travels. Thank you, Anthony. Or at least that's Anthony Lynn, he's the guy. I was reading the the story on that where came out of a bar with Todd Haley the great offense coordinator. And all of a sudden it's like gets hit by a car going about fifty five miles an hour. Doctors said you people don't live. Oh, they thought he was he's going to die hundred percent. You know were percent. So pretty amazing. Pretty amazing story there. So what's the big deal? I'm going to New England face Bill Belichick and Tom Brady. Continental tire coaches corner. Continental tire proud to be the exclusive tire the Dan Patrick show. No matter where you drive what you drive how you drive continental designs tires for. What you do? For more information. Visit continental tire dot com dot tire for what you do. Yeah. They thought that he was going to be paralyzed because he couldn't feel his legs. He had one hundred one hundred seventy seven career rushing yards. Philip rivers has five hundred eighty career rushing yards. So Anthony Lynn was backing up Terrell Davis with the Broncos he he bounced around. He's like a fullback. Yeah. Special teamer. He was on Denver. San francisco. A couple of years back with Denver. He had one hundred seventy seven career rushing yards. Sixty seven of the one hundred seventy seven came on one play. And he didn't score on that play. It gets them coach of the year votes, and rightfully so sneak in a phone call or two cliff in Wisconsin best and worst of the weekend. What do you have for me cliff? Good morning, this clip from Wisconsin five eight one one eighty five one here. Worst of the weekend has gotta be that, Michael Michael Dixon. Onside town that the I've seen I've seen punts. That didn't go that far. And the best of the weekend has got to be coach flory's finally receiving recognition in making the semi-final lists for the for the hall of fame the resume that coach floors. This God is impact on the first minority. Head coach in the NFL for Super Bowl rings to the head. Coach one is in the system and one is the backup quarterback to Lenny dos and for the Super Bowl for Kansas City Chiefs. He's got a winning record percentage of seven twenty against the lights that Don Shula. Coach coryell was also up this year. Chuck knoll, Tom Landry and Bill Walsh. A cumulative record of twenty three wins and nine losses. That's seven twenty winning percentage against four hall of fame. Coach. Yeah. That's good stuff cliff in in. You know, not everybody is getting in its deserved of getting in. But Tom floors is one of those names that I had to go back, and and research when I saw his name again, I went you know, what I should be fair to this situation instead of going in Tom or as we know it wasn't much of a pro quarterback. And you remember him with the raiders? And then you start to do some research, and you realize that Tom Flora's? Is a whole fame. Coach, absolutely Scott. No high. Oh before we take a break. Hi, scott. Hey, Dan, got a best worst in a worsest actually for you it. Okay. So my best is the Blackhawks beating the Bruins last night. That was pretty nice enjoyed that. Especially after my worse with the bears losing. Unfortunately, now my worst is comes up during the Blackhawks game last night and the early in the third period. One of the announcers for NBC sports. And I don't know who it was announced. But he had the audacity to where to make a comment of Parke's misfield goal. One of the Bruins players knocks one right off the goalpost of of the shot misses the shot. And then he comes up with. Oh, I bet the various fans enjoy that more than they do it. The mess kick by park you earlier about really do that just happened like two hours ago. Wait. All right. Well, thank you, Scott. I liked that Scott's best was a Blackhawks win in December over Boston. January that really makes me feel better. Yeah. Yeah. Nice. Yeah. Four three win. That's the one. I best of the weekend got to win. All right. More phone calls coming up eight seven seven three DP show. Jalen Smith, the Dallas Cowboys. Great linebacker will. Join us coming up next seventeen after the hour. This is the Dan Patrick show. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife drop off the dry cleaning pick-up, some milk figure out something to get out of the house. So I can relax. Here's an idea. Let's add save hundreds of dollars on car insurance. The good thing. 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I mean, they would dominate the big ten. They'd always have a running back would get fifteen hundred yards and be up for the Heisman Trophy Archie Griffin. They had I think Jim Otis. Trying to think who else they had -nother running back back at that time where they were just great running backs, and you know, Woody Hayes would have a big offensive line. They go out to southern Cowan all of a sudden you'd see a completely different offense there. It was almost like, oh, hi, oh state was the old NFL and USC was the old AFL, and they just opened it up and had fun. And I always looked at USC. So in my son goes, you know, I I wanna go to USC I go what four he goes to go to school, and I go why do you want to go to USC goes have you been to USC I go and come to think of it. Yeah. I understand it because he wasn't going to go to Dayton where I went my wife went to NYU. He goes, I want to go where there's a big time football program is timing wasn't great because he got out there, and they weren't very good. When he got there. Yeah. Paulie, Ohio State between I think sixty nine and seventy four played four times in a Rose Bowl. State versus USC. Yeah. Is that the wheelhouse? You remember? Oh, yeah. Just seemed like every year. Yeah. Who was the running back? He played. I think for the cardinals Kim Brockton. Now, it's Brock John John cracking too. I think or did he play for the Packers. Jim Otis played for the card yet. But I remember great Ohio State running banks for fifty Alex. But Archie Griffin. Arch winning back to back heismans there. Many went to the Bengals didn't amount to much in the pros. Oh. Let me see. We'll get some phone calls in here. Christopher in Oregon joins us. Hey, chris. What do you have for me today? It, dan. That's the weekend. The Timberwolves getting rid of Tom T-bill worse the weekend the bears lost. I thought it was going to be a bears colts Super Bowl and prince is gonna come back from the grave and do the best halftime show ever. All right. Well, I'm sorry. That didn't happen. Chris. I think there a few bears fans. I think being a bears fan you probably had to go. You know? What are we ready for this moment? Because that was the feeling I had I you know, you had a great regular season. And then I wondered were they ready for big moment. And they proved that they weren't ready for a big moment and Philadelphia once I think bears fans thought we were they would get by yesterday. Especially after tree Cohen got that kickoff return. But then next week is like at the party's probably over. Yeah. I got that same feeling. Yeah. It felt that way. The Dan Patrick show. Brought to you by the twenty eighteen Mercedes AM g class with a suite of innovative techniques. One of the most intelligent cars on the road. Go to envy, USA dot com. Visit your local dealership to schedule your test drive today. He was a hit the last time. He was on the program. Jalen smith. He Cowboys linebacker joining us after the win against the Seattle Seahawks. Hey feeling today. Sailing. Great. Very energized for for new week. Do you? Celebrate. They again, do you celebrate after win like that man? Anytime you went in the National Football League regular season postseason like you have to embrace it. Luckily, we, you know, my brother, and I we had some family in town. We had our dad and town. So we gotta Justice spend a little time with them and your brothers. Rod the backup running back on the Cowboys when you're facing Russell Wilson. Like the difference in facing Russell Wilson as opposed to other quarterbacks as what? He's so allusive he can extend plays outside of the pocket. He can even extend plays inside of the pocket in our objective was to you know, contain that as much as possible. Were you surprised that they were they continue to run the balls much as they did? No. Because you know, like muss other successful teams. It's all about establishing around. You don't wanna make your team one? I mentioned all on. So the more we could stop the run. And and you know, kinda force the Seahawks throw the ball. The better our chances for sure. Yeah. I was surprised. I thought that they would have the ball in. Russell Wilson's hands more where you guys surprised at that. No is just when when you understand this game football. It comes down to running the ball because there's so many things that you can do off of that play action mister action, you know, different type of gadget plays. So that's really the heart that it comes down to me. Even you know, you talk about all of these great quarterbacks. They want to stab her one. Because it just opens the pocket for talking to Jalen Smith. The Cowboys linebacker Notre Dame grad, by the way, how much grief did you take with the Irish getting blown out and the college playoff game? I took a lot of Greece. That my words where where it was all about revenge. Getting revenge getting back to the big the big dance, and we failed. But that's okay. You know, there's there's still Irish spirit for sure. You rope. A patriot fan. Get you grew up a New England patriot fan. I did. I did my Brava was my favorite player. But I'm all cowboy. Let me say that. Did you meet breakable? Yes. I met my senior high school of he was the because of line coast at Ohio State. So he's recruiting me. And I got a chance to meet him. And you know, do a little running around together. It was it was fun. Wait. He couldn't close you. No, we we were just working out. But you see. Okay. So you go to Notre Dame. Now, I I heard the story that you worked at a Burger King. Now did you in high school my senior year? Yup. I I worked at Burger King. But my second semester. How good were you? Then I would be leaked. I'm telling you, I was I was at a month for about three months ago. When I I really wanted to. I really want to understand you know, what people are fast restaurants renter. You know what I mean? Just understanding the different dynamics of it and one of my passions is, you know, putting a smile on people's faces. So I was able to do that a lot 'cause you're, but you're not you don't wanna put a smile on Jared Goff face this weekend. No, no, more in a. More to sad way. You know, you know, congratulations after the game and go up moving on. We definitely wanna get the win for sure did you drive through Burger King. I did it all I did. It all did you eat a lot of Burger King. Man. Those Oreo of shakes man, they were they were to death of me. You know, I'm thinking they might have lost money by having you worked there as much as you probably you did your brother work there as well. No, my brother worked at at at a YMCA his seen gear. You were smart to work at Burger King. Yeah. Well, like, I said I wanted to get the fascinating experience. It is understanding, you know, just the different. He's being on the opposite side, you know of the counter. So I I really really learned about you know, so I'm I'm thankful for for. Sure. What do you how much is it helpful helping you that you already played the Rams? Man, it helps be a little bit. Because you understand that simple. You understand the type of caliber offense that they that they run, but it's a new year. It's an new defense for us north SARS, just our personnel. And it's nasty that we play with. So we're looking forward to this this great challenge near they got seen semi league guys over there. So we're looking forward to getting up there LA. Well, congrats so far good luck going to Los Angeles there. And we appreciate your time. As always Jalen. I appreciate it. Hope you hope you're watching. Oh, I will be I will be. Thank you. Jalen. I'm just gonna at that point say that I picked the saints. But I I didn't I didn't want next time. He's on they beat the Rams that'll tell him. Now, you're going to tune into that he wasn't going to. But now I am. He convince you to name now, it's not going to be thanksgiving. Hey, wait. Wait, wait. That's this weekend. Hey, why take anything for granted? They I hope you're watching man, I know you deli listing LA is back on things to watch. But see he's going door to door. Just one viewer to time this hit the humble, he's helping the shield is what he's doing. Yes. Mclovin. I have a terrible side. Joan Smith poll question pitch. It would you rather have two hundred million dollars in the Bank or have a physique like Jalen Smith. And or maybe one hundred million while he and you get out about you, get one million. Okay. Or you get Jalen. Smith's physique. But you get his paycheck or his vizier physique. You can either have Jalen paycheck or his body. Well, I was thinking you have is body and you have a good income, but not a spectacular income. I don't think I'd want to be built like Jalen Smith unless my body was my livelihood. Because people like do you look like you could play football? And I'm a jiffy lube doing a twenty minute entire rotation. I have a couple of like fritzy's arms. Yeah. People go, man. You must have played football. I have a brother-in-law who looks like he could play defensive back in the NFL. And he is a computer graphics guy. He doesn't he types for a living, basically and use the mouse. But he's jacked but people like you play football now never played. All right. So what's the consensus? Do you wanna have his paycheck or his physique Satan? Well, if I had his paycheck could probably afford to work out a little more. So. I'm not saying that I would at least be like man, eventually I got to get off this couch and start working on something for the paycheck and try to figure out how to cut down on the Munchausen mountain dew and get to the gym. Why why would we you think that money would make you get all of us? Get rid of our bad habits of not working out and eating it feels like you would do less. Yeah. If you're gonna make that kind of money Yarmuk, mclovin. So he's on that rookie deal though. You know depends. I'm not going to get his paycheck through free agency. No, just through his rookie con. Okay. So you get back eight hundred thousand a year, that's a lot. But that man just have these year to walk into a room with those arms and just know you're the baddest person in there. I'm okay. If somebody says, boy, you look like you could play football. And I would just say, no, I'm a bodybuilder. Mike. Fritzy, fritzy looked like that what he was eighteen. Yeah. He did. They in front of doing bicep, curls. That's just your arms, though, that was the only part of you that looked like you were every picture of fritzy from high school and college looks Photoshop. I like a normal person's body. And then these gigantic he did he didn't go club arms. Head cartoon arms is important to kind of work out the entire body. You just you would just do curls in front of the mirror as I sat in a couple of those leg things. And then I got like some bad cramps. And I'm just going to stay there for the bar barbells up. And now you have like a swimsuit models legs. You have no hair on your legs. It's really strange. They're very very they look like a piano leg. Do some bench pressing and buys and tries and then blow half years nothing. Nothing going on. We know thing or two about a great beer and couldn't be happier to partner with golden road brewing golden road founded in twenty eleven and their goal was to be LA's largest craft brewery. These guys are all about bringing you the finest quality craft beer available. And we had it at the Christmas party people who don't drink beer were drinking the wolf pup session. I and we got we finished too skinny there at the Christmas party. I should have gotten a full keg. I think. So good the mango cart and the wolf pup session. IP available in all fifty states. Crafted in California golden road brewing, fresh crappier since twenty eleven. Yes, bill. I know it's been a while any drama at the Christmas party, and he no casualties and people leave because it was a little late Gano people on time. No. They did. Not know they did not you gotta get a bouncer. Like, Jalen Smith. I should. Well, I had Chad. He, but he from Schrager too nice. I know, but what happens is. So we made a calculated air here. I was saying that we should have the party from like two two six okay because then people will leave. And then they'll go home. They might go to another party. We had it from five till nine. So the later starting time was very noted on our end. I'm like, oh, this is an interesting shift in. Strategy immediately after the party because my wife will say, hey, you know, we write down some things that will change for said. Here we go the time you said here, we go. Yeah. And she goes, well, wait like four hours is not enough. I go. No, no, four four hours enough. We gotta go to two six three two seven. And that's it because it gets the nine and all of a sudden, you know, old man, Dan's going, you know, time to wrap it up here you start cleaning up around. Yes. I do. Did you spend time somewhere around three o'clock being like damn we should be an our deep right now. And we're still two hours away. Yeah. We should already be pulling goes can we show up at four I go to the garage out. Yes. So police air with his kids and it's four o'clock before. Yeah. Yeah. I asked permission though. Yeah. He and he's not the only person who showed up at four. There was another family that said can we show at four? We have to go to another party. It's we're not even ready yet. Like, I'm taking a shower. You know, it's one of those things where you go. Hey, the Pat families here the garage. He was. Yeah. Okay. And I said at nine o'clock is when the younger kids start kind of cranking. So it's eleven and I can hear them. I'm upstairs, I'm going on my. And then somebody says, hey, you know, let's go to another spot. I'm going. Yeah. And then somebody goes, why would we go we have everything here, and I'm gonna say to midnight midnight. Yeah. Poem. There is a point. I don't know maybe out of forget what time I left, but it it was maybe like, eight o'clock or something like that. And I went down stairs to go fund my son who's watching a football game. And I just looked in the bar, and it looked like delta tau Chi taken over an everybody had a cigar. There's probably fifty cigars going in there. And I was like, you know, what buddy it might be time to find. Mommy, and let's it I made a mistake in other calculated air, I put out some cigars, and so everybody it it looked like sharks in an ocean in the ashtray, which was all of these cigar sticking up that nobody they would smoke a little bit one eighth us to. Yes. And then they would put it out. And so you probably had I had three ashtrays, so totaling probably five in each ashtray. That were somebody took a couple of hits off of that was it, and I went note to self no cigars next year backward. Hats and cigars rarely mic. Yeah. And you know, you sit at the bar, and if you. No, what's behind the bar is free. You'll go. How's that Japanese whiskey there? And so you're just it all just going on. I'll let me try that to keel. I've never had that. Then he mix it with like a Dr Pepper like cranium in. Let me try some of that. Here's a blue label. Let's mix pepper that Nicole police. Yes for now. You're a great house, and you chef people out of your house. But at what point did you get the realization like these people look like they're leaving anytime soon. We're getting close to that time when we're supposed to be wrapping up truth be told I went to bed smart. I I said to my wife, I said, I'm tapping out. It's it bogging. And she goes, okay. Because it was it was around eleven eleven fifteen and then I held on. I just said, no, I I can't do it. So everybody in Pino people are all over the house too. So you got people walking into your bedroom. Is there a bathroom in here? Oh, I'm sorry. Did I wake you up Mr. Patrick? No, no. Okay. Yes. It feels like your kids are at an age to where they're all of their high school friends are still around everybody's coming home from college. And it's like, oh, let's all catch up at the Christmas party. You're right now in sort of peak attendance era, and when we ran out of the wolf pup. I like that made it even worse because I I was I committed to beer early. But you know, it was nice at Andrew brought you a six pack of wolf up by housewarming gift. Yes. Yeah. Because we got beer here. Then they send it to us. And mclovin thought it was really funny walked into goes a guy you gift any handed me, a four pack of of the people who sponsor I had been working on that guy. So proud of you just like problems, I wrote it because I was so giddy. Like, what are you doing, mclovin? Mclovin. Walks in with his wife and daughters, your daughter, your oldest daughter, very cute, where my wife has opinion where the kids get to break, the Pignon police daughter broke, the pinata. So candy comes and your daughter says to my wife, you know, next year. You can always get me close. Instead of candy. She's got a registry. Oh, she said, you know, next year. You don't have to get me candy. You can always get close and my wife. Oh, well that that's great to know gift card. Yeah. It's great to know. They had a good time of your house, by the way, if you want I think you ought to open a sort of service because I want to drop the kids off they love your hat. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Once a year is good enough. Great to see the kids. Take a break here. We'll do like a leap year party every four years. You've just big while out, and you cut it down perfect. Reggie Miller will join us on the program and Michael Irvin. The playmaker will join us as well. We'll come back last call for phone calls as we close up shop on this Monday here on the Dan Patrick show. Every car comes with its share stories, right? That Dane your bumper. When you nervously picked up a first date or maybe the luxury package, you got after a big promotion. 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You like Jalen her you've been pretty positive about him throughout the season is a real option there. Yeah. I think the question should be worded barring an injury. Does. He see the field because if to by the way, I did hear from Alabama fans about this. And you know, I I know that you tune in and you trust what I say or you wouldn't tune in. And when I do tell you something I vetted out best. I can't. So when I said to you that I had heard from a source saying that too. It was very iffy for this last game. And he had an unbelievable performance. And I heard from Alabama fan saying play imagine if he wasn't very iffy for this. I mean, look it doesn't mean he wasn't if he he played great. I stand by my source on this because this source along with two others that I have been telling you all kinds of information that is proven to be true. So the same person who was telling me about Baker Mayfield being the number one pick overall before anybody said this. I was given that information from this source. He gave me the information onto and I trust him still trust him. And you know, I I apologize to Nick Sabin or Alabama or two if I over read this or was given bad information. I still believe what I was given was given to my source in good faith, and that was three weeks before the game. When I was told that he was very so that I understand Alabama fans you're upset about it. Enjoy the win. Okay. Enjoy the game. But I stand by how I report, you know, there's nothing that we do here too sensationally something I don't do something to get hot takes. I don't there's that's not who we are. And I'll never be that. What I tell you is what I'm told it just like I'm hearing from USC fan saying, we don't want Herbin Meyer. I'm only telling you what I'm told from a source at Ohio State who said that he thinks urban coaches again and the only two. Is he could see would be USC and noted it. Okay. That's it. No agenda here. 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Old Me & Captain Corona

Marty Smith's America The Podcast

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Old Me & Captain Corona

"The Marty Smith's America podcast is presented by Ziprecruiter Ziprecruiter. The smartest way to hire. Hey Marty Smith's America podcasts volume seventy four and boys I cannot believe that we finally and that remains true today but as we've progressed people who listen to the podcast and and people make decisions about the podcast not name Travis or Mardi decided they really like when we just talk about our lives and tell our stories and share our experiences and so that's kind of what we've started to do more than more often than not and so maybe it is just a paradigm shift in I was looking through there to see if anybody had written anything about the book and this one guy wrote that he is a fan of the podcast but I've got philosophical approach to at all but I just found that to be such an interesting response and I haven't felt preachy I guess seventy-three shows ago and the whole thought process behind it for me was interviewing people about their lives in their path it's been over the past six months or so and I feel a tinge of cool beauty in the air I'm very preachy over the past six or seven whatever the past little increment right and I'm not sure exactly what preachy means yeah but see on throughout the weekend I was over there for SEC nation we were in Knoxville for the Georgia bulldogs. I mean I mean I I don't know what that means if he's a fan of the podcast and if you read your book I mean I would certainly say that there's life lessons coming to town and really just thoroughly enjoyed our time in Knoxville it's awesome town and it's a house that McGee Bill and yes and I love doing that it's by far by far by far my favorite part of this job whether regardless of the medium you know me very well and Travis obviously you know me very well and Travis you have to listen every podcast because you edit out all the mistakes how how would you guys for a minute to volunteers volunteers balled out there for a little while Medina Mash question so I just pose this he just screamed out loud the Earth is hot and that's exactly how I felt yes I'm all about some I'm all about just talking down to you in trying to tell you how things are and you're wrong and I'm right and all that stuff and I don't I don't sense that from you maybe I am very demonstrative about things I care about an impassioned about and Laney is laughing at me and the other room for is in there but I wouldn't call it preachy I want maybe maybe sermon ask points but but in a great way like preachy preachy to me means what do you think McGee to quote our boy marcus spears I remember when we did the hottest SEC nation of all time which was I just want to have to wear sleeves just two I can't I just WanNa cool off just a tiny little bit in east Tennessee this opening weekend Labor Day weekend a year ago in Charlotte and right in the middle of trying to make some point about West Virginia Tennessee. Marcus Spears stopped right on air react to somebody saying we've got preachy well I'd quote a quote the Book Deuteronomy now I'm just I don't I don't know I I don't know what that means passion for our veterans and me sharing how I believe we should approach our veterans and be appreciative of our veterans maybe that's true this is an alumnus of the Ohio State University and man he loves him some Buckeyes and so he goes to the horseshoe to watch preachy then you have been at your pulpit for a long time serve speaking of pulpits we we need travis before we came on that I'll go through my mentions on social media to safeen by written anything about my book whatnot and so I wonder if he's he is because we don't have many guests on anymore that's what he means by a and there's this more we started this journey talked to Travis about going to the rock hold mother Church that is the horseshoe in Columbus Ohio so just so y'all know Travis Monsour even since y'all have fewer guests on and I I I've known you for what twenty years and some reason maybe she's GonNa come in here and tell me that I've been preachy have been preachy okay. Lanes feedback is that she believes it's probably about any world because that's exactly what happened Travis was a ten year old meat and Mickey Mouse for the first time go well here's the other thing is I haven't been back in four years here's the last time was the two thousand Fifteen Michigan State Game Yeah that was a bad one yeah yeah so I soon as I knew I had weekends off I've never known you not to Shake veterans walk across an airport gate to shake you veterans hand into remind everybody they should probably do the same so already come to town and get breaks beat off of them by Justin fields in the boys now if y'all could I'm GonNa let Travis paint the picture of going to by somebody Mark Dantonio Ohio state and says hey when you get in town I go frightening because if you want I can give you a tour that's a stupid question mark of course I want a tour of the facility so I started my trip off Friday with that then on the field Saturday for the entire game so this past weekend was a dream come true because I've never been on the field I booked this trip I knew we had the game on radio so I was able to facilitate getting feel pass and then on Friday I get hit up Ohio state fair game how describe that experience it was awesome yeah so the only time I've ever even been on the field was when we went onto the field after our I have I have a tie that is like the UCLA looking blue and yellow gold that's like the SEC network colors those are in the stadium so what was it like to be on the field for a game and see all the speed up close and be that what what was your level of different that is probably ten years ago now when I was covering Nascar Virginia Tech Played Against Carolina in football and I had a bit with my buddy the bit was I don't remember what happened if Virginia Tech One because they lost and because they lost I had to wear a North Carolina tar heels Jason Freeman j bone who's the equipment manager for the tar heels he's a great friend of mine he's a great human being and we had a bit and get this thing off of me as fast as possible but he's he's still has like pictures of that moment where I'm doing some NASCAR report on sports blue exists what an alternate ole miss uniform other than that it's pretty much just like the UCLA colors how interesting I never considered that makes sense How did that experience how are you bringing that with you travis I mean it was just awesome I mean Colty to not overtly cheer well that was the other thing is I couldn't wear any Ohio states that because I actually was working during the game so that first of all sorts is trying to find a color that neither team has to wear I never realized that was why that was the SEC's official color? Yeah totally neutral does collars don't really I mean that that you didn't wear like an orange tie and like like T- Yoma lapels you see I'm working that's not how that works one of the hardest things and he said was in Knoxville Mawla Matar in we did the show from their same spot same game two years ago and Ktar on sportscenter and so j bone sins me this Carolina Tar heels tie and I put this thing on and I was like when he finally retired after the nine national championship game the next fall he went to a game back at his Alma Mater East Carolina and he called me from the parking lot like tailgate and he's like man this great we talking about he goes tailgate day when you were a student yeah okay and flip in the Tassell yeah right and so this was the first time to go out there the whole graduation there do so I'm trying to figure out which game this year I'm going to I'm going to attend and actually stay after it was McGee amazing you know how you feel when you go to like comecon or star wars con- whatever those things are that's how SEC nation concludes and we have all of this time before a game whether it's three thirty as long as it's not a noon kickoff right either three thirty kick or seven seven thirty kick we could stay and experience that which we don't get the team went to the locker room before the game I'm sitting there just on the bench and actually at halftime during the band's amazing McGee Pie loved at the moon landing if he uh-huh superfund right and it suddenly dawned on me he had never done it he's in his mid sixties mogollon football games literally every weekend through colors and swallow the network and I to this day it's been two years and I still get like comments from people going I can't believe beat Michigan and Oh six I did media day once and then graduation that's it so this whole like rushing the field yes and the two hundred six and one mediator yeah makes perfect sense I remember couple years ago speaking of wearing ties and and being neutral and all that I I had a bet a couple three years it was way more than green was being honored for being the Rose Hall of fame and the Rose Bowl committee was there with his trophy in the second half I went to take the guy's holding I want to take a photo of in the look closely if you look closely when the smoke is shot off I'm sitting on the bench just getting consumed by all the smoke there was not prepared for that to do very often either and in fact I can't remember the last time tailgate tailgating can y'all will travis you don't know how can we do that next year for the Mardi if it if SEC nation would have gone to baton rouge this weekend I probably would have stayed yeah more often one until like Monday afternoon of the week we're going there so that plan can be difficult intern center or whatnot wearing that tie like he got so much glee out of that and I got so much misery I still have the top by the way I don't think I ever returned it to him so great we're GonNa use it on college football live I think at some point just to be standing there you know inches oh yeah so here's another thing cornelius stability it's awesome get paid to go to the Games I'll never complain about that but but you never just kind of get to go and so that's awesome when you get no about what an SEC football games about and a bunch of Laney's friends are interested in in common see us do the SEC nation show and in which is what I'm expecting both teams are very good and it's a a great tradition and it's a great rivalry so that's what I would like to do don't like them and they don't like us either and they beat us up last year and so there's a lot of juice to that one so I would consider it I think the one I might stay and what not and then stay in an experience in college football that way so I think November second I might do that if provided we're at a cocktail party there's a like I want to experience he's never gone to an SEC experience my brothers in law have never gone to sec experience there from the northeast overseen and you walk around and see all stuff I'm fascinated by like the converted ambulances and all that stuff and I walk around and I'm just like right in front of the stadium and then we had to pivot our shot because in the fifteen minutes GonNa stop then well and that's also it's not gonNA stop and that's not even yeah and it's not just something you started doing like in the last six are more likely than than not I'll probably would have stayed because it's a top ten matchup and our boy Joey Joey football is saying you know I don't really like Florida while we were waiting to go live these guys rolled up in a pickup truck and unloaded a couple of platforms with dancing pulse four and try to drink a few beers is the cocktail party up my this is just a presumption so y'all know we don't know where we're going go back to the Alma Mater and just be fan like you know that that's something that I it was so my dad I talk about that all the time 'cause football official for forty something years polls and it wasn't thirty seconds before they were being used so we had to pivot to live shot to not have that over my shoulder while I was talking since he was in high school and had never done it before and that's that's something and now there's like Bucket List Games Ohio State Michigan Dad's gotten to go to so yeah it's the experience we go and Tailgate yeah and I'm terrible at it like there's going be a Mardian McGee pre-game show yeah hey the CO with a couple of times that I've tried think about that plan have you ever been to the cocktail party never been it is like I went for I went for the first time author they're dancing stage yeah reminds me of the Talladega infield some of the things that we've seen in the TALLADEGA infield which they're racing there this weekend got big race this weekend and you know you you just go I am where do you where where does normal Brosseau sandwiches look I'm just not good at it because I just don I've done I honestly I bet of tailgated two or three times entire life and I'm awfully do you WANNA hold it and I'll take a photo of you I'm like yes I do so archie griffin was like two feet away from me you know because it's had to go like five tiers down a more family friendly stories otherwise is probably going to be escorted what about you know whatever I was talking about so yeah and that was at certain ten fifteen in the morning again great rights passed Oh life intersect this try to write a comic here had an all new a couple of years ago with with Esi nation and I thought I kind of knew what it was but I've never seen it we should go back there and just like spin the Saturday night and party I'll come along so we had a very unique Sunday. CEO of Cafe Torre he needed a higher director of coffee for his organic coffee company but he was having a whole lot of trouble finding qualified candidates back he also used Ziprecruiter's candidate rating feature to filter his applicants so he could focus more on the relevant ones that he felt fit the job our him in sport is the Talladega infield right and McGee discussing those Oh boys pulling up into flatbed and put that's how Dylan found his new director of coffee it only took a couple of days with results like that it's no wonder four out of five employers who post on Ziprecruiter Havoc Mardi that's ziprecruiter dot com slash M. A. RT why Ziprecruiter the smartest way to hire L. D. candidate within the first day see Ziprecruiter is effective for businesses of every size try Ziprecruiter for free at our web address ziprecruiter dot com slash out the door right I mean you got you got doctors and lawyers and executives and I mean all the the everybody everybody converges in there damn to apply to your job so you get a qualified candidate almost immediately dylan posted a job on Ziprecruiter and was so impressed with how quickly he had candidates apply so he switched Ziprecruiter Ziprecruiter doesn't depend on candidates finding you it finds them for you it's technology identifies people with the right experience and all was difficult I'm getting texts from people at spotted me like you're not wearing Ohio state I'm like I can't right people don't get that it's it's just like so sec nation anything like that so so so the folks who don't know all I was doing a live shot from the parking lot in front of the Gator Bowl the stadium for the game for the SEC nation set was in an adjacent parking lot but was facing the river and I'm doing my stand up we're about to do and it goes on for weeks and it's called the Carolina Renaissance Festival and what it is my aunt it's like the freaks come out he was killing me get into that in a minute my niece still killing me and there's a thing in Charlotte called and it's ever fall and it's it's like medieval festival is that fair McGee yeah I can't I'm waiting I can't editors on the motor sports side of ESPN DOT COM and I've tried to write a column this year about Talladega Infield and they sent back to four times going you can't write these stories finally in the old nor state found something that resembles fall the humidity is not nearly as dramatic as We did spend the unique Sunday I will say I got home from Knoxville Tennessee and I was just smoked the guy just like I look around I love getting there early and walk in the parking lot like Iowa I'm still talking about tripped our year ago it was great a and we need to break this thing down but before we do you guys know that hiring can be a really slow process just ask Dylan Moskowitz he's the and everybody has the same plan let's go throw down and it's beautiful I mean I love it I miss it we should go back there man to do it I'm terrible at it like my Buddy Burgess from high school terrible at tailgating how do you not like if I'm in charge of it I'm terrible at it because I don't ever put I mean literally I've tailgated maybe two or three times in my life and even renting that can lead a tailgate you'd never done it too just like like appeals win right goes to the shoe has to be on the field and hold the Rose Bowl trophy what's cool though is that you do you did get a chance to like gene so exactly so that was starting behind us and I mean those guys they unloaded those dancing medieval costumes and jester costumes and is wide shut costumes and it's wait to hear you describe this yeah it's like a medieval festival where people wear pirate costumes and tickets for fifty minutes did you and yes and I was real hard headed about it because we had these coupons where people dressed like wizards there are elves dressed like every I mean every thing knights of the round Poudel and us a beer and I sat there and I just drink that beer just picnic table yeah I had the most unbelievable entertainment tournament because you posted the video that looked almost identical video that I posted from the other side of the arena anyway so we had to look this up for watching experience I've ever had the gross and we got there and the line man the line I think we stood in line taken with this thing you're talking about and it was it was a griffin where to look this up it's like a it's we went and took advantage of it and you couldn't get that online you couldn't use that coupon online and I was real hard headed about it so we stood there in one guy I saw the damn guy who guard the Holy Grail in Indiana Jones in the in the last crusade or whatever I'm telling you he had that Mesh all the you saw the so we were so I was there too we did not know he didn't know each other were there I'm pretty sure we were at the same jousting the very first thing I do is I look at Laney and I'm like hey I need a cold beer and I'm cool thing about the renaissance festival is like it's a neat experience you could ever fathom watch best people watching in the world it's their people dressed like ferries there because I I've said this said this. Sec Nation last week y'all know Captain America and Star Wars and all that I'm not a big wizard guy like I was are you want adult you get one adult ticket in the next one was free and Cameron and Laney and I were all adults and so Mashhud on you know on his whole whole armor and Drug Santa Claus yes Santa he's like ten feet tall and he was a tree but literally gap we saw yeah it was the single greatest forever and ever Amen and we finally get our tickets and we get in there maybe eleven thirty something like that and I go in there I tried to play Dungeons and dragons when I was a kid and it was like nope even even me I was like you know what the same for me like I'm not a big Harry Potter guy and all that it's like a it's like it's like one of these things it's like two animals mash together like it has like a a bird's body and alliance this old girl man God bless her she's in their man she's Mermaid and so hard and she's in this big old tank like it's a it's a fish tank so the the wizards and the nights stuff or not really in my wheelhouse so we had to look this up my wife was my wife's birthday so she wanted to do and Eric got her picture I really did enjoy it because I like that old school stuff like that and I go and I find the Kobe or stand and I by both of us think for all intents and purposes it probably has seven thousand gallons worth the water yeah and she's she's doing her little bit flips and the Eh yeah it is that's it and so yes so that thing was running around did you see the tree there was a guy walking around do they have it done it's like a fake me out tank where she can come up and wiggle her tail while she's getting her next breath of air right her next like fill up or loans and go back and do it again we're doing all the flips and like blowing rings in the water very talented yeah and I just started feeling sorry for man I was like she's in the in into the Mermaid Taint Pose Hell Hell of Afraid Mermaid tank and yeah and I mean on and on and on my daughter's thought it was the most magical thing ever and they thought it was so cool and the mermaid comes up and waves at Chian just the people watching the best leave this well I am laney texted me and she goes oh my gosh net counterfeits nights walking I had on I'm I'm completely misrepresented what I thought I was Tom says hi to him and stuff and then they got to take a picture with another mermaid and it was all good but but man watching chat not a chance I already got too many absence social whatever I'll post something on instagram and Laney immediately the long with sweat pants were insulated ago I had a bandanna around my forehead right and sunglasses yeah and I thought that the weather was going to be cool and overcast and it was not it was hot and very sunny yeah the forecast like seventy five degrees it was it was easily fifteen degrees hotter than it was nine easy and I had on a Hoodie. I had on an insulated hyphen daughters. My wife's birthday and my wife my daughter did like a horoscope reading with this Guy Master Alan from Atlanta and so they were sitting in this Lena my buddies including five of them from home in Paris bird text me are you jesting is that you do that what they do is they jousted each other aim at a target right that that the other ones holding and but it was still super me I just was sitting at this joust yeah because it it's so interesting to me I thought they were going knock each other off a horses that didn't happen no afternoon so we rolled in there about two o'clock you'll probably headed out by the time we were actually stayed until it closed it that's how we I will totally dress up like Captain America and go to to to the big heroes commits in Charlotte but I I draw the line at the at the magic wands in the you were not done so much stupid stuff over the last few years that people actually think that could be him yeah that's a good point 'cause my first reaction was no it wasn't him and now so sad to see you because Martin McGee for Wednesday night would have been done that's all we would have done would have been the entire I had ever body blow I don't know what it was like old like German like Saint Nicholas remain like it wasn't Yeah Oh yeah for sure and he was hammered I win I understand travis this is this is hardcore everybody all yeah no no you don't so I had I did have one a Charlotte Knights t shirt because I was like you know what thirty bucks a kid for some useless souvenir right and I'm going to allot sixty bucks to beer shopping yes I swear I think we were there for the same one I think if you looked in the background of my of your video you might be able to see me sitting there it was it was unbelievable realized that I could talk and see where I would see that but I'm GonNa tell you right now I want to get your video that you shot from your side of the jousting arena and my videos tail soup any CELANESE flags and our five bucks a piece right and it's this little old flag and five bucks a piece and we were on the press tint for like an hour I'm just standing there so I started wandering around and and taking selfies with guys like trees and I some- so walking dead when when they closed the gates at five thirty and they they all stomach out into the dark after drinking ale and meet all night it was unbelievable am I got one he liked came and then have soared Minnesota Oh my God there was blood we must have been on the same bleacher now wizards and all you have dressed up as your captain America and gone and fit right in though you know what I didn't know no superheroes Turkey snapchat do but Turkey legs laney did not bring her phone she forgot her phone will I can promise you own a Sunday Sonja Dude did you buy flag no we saw this guy we like gesture guy so on the flag he assed failure well I mean look man so they had a they had a pretty decent array of cold ones foothills brewery McCain beard and I'm going to allot fifty bucks or sixty bucks to the children's Food and whatnot right turn Marty's beer it's I don't look at mine I didn't need it that's like here take it so she put snapchat on their signs in Dan had the best time ever sending various footage to her friends from the Renaissance Fair it was awesome leave out of Nazi youth this thing I'm so mad 'cause 'cause that would have been the funniest thing of all of our and each and it was like an hour where I was just by myself because my you may know all my gosh have you got or are you guys at the festival and I was like well we we we just left by sea worthy McGee's y'all got there in the morning the

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SIISWIS: Interview with former Bengals great, Max Montoya

Cincy Jungle

29:55 min | 1 year ago

SIISWIS: Interview with former Bengals great, Max Montoya

"Geico Max Montoya. I'M DYING THE LATEST GUARD. Bengalis his wartime two time superbowl. Afc on pro. I mean this guy on in his NFL Trivia and he is on that show and we are so honored to have you on the show. Montoya Thank you joining us. Thank you nice. Thank you thank you and we also we have any Bangladesh fan with us all school bengals fan who has been following putting the team since its inception and of quarter. Sorta usual hosts Johnson and Dr Orgy the electric explaining. That's right so we have a lot to cover today. We want to talk about Max and and how he came to be such. A great player is his career trajectory. We want to talk about what he's doing now. What's about the the Bengals is now in the NFL? Now and all that kind of stuff. So I mark. I know you had some questions for the Max and about the super bowl runs things. Yeah Yeah how? Are you an actor honored to be with you today? You know you played for two completely different bengals teams while some of the personnel was the same. The Forest Greg Team in the same wise team were completely different. Squads was there one of the two styles that you preferred more. You know what I really loved the Second Super Bowl with Sam White and Bruce cazalet offense coordinator in those two guys with their minds We had a very dynamic offense as compared to the first for bowl and eighty eighty one eighty two That was more ground and pound p Johnson type of thing and and the second super bowl. There was all a lot going on. It was a lot of fun. The you actually ride into my second question because I said you know. Let's talk about the Sam Weiss team. You're talking about one of the most innovative mark In football at the time I mean most people don't realize the bills took our that blueprint and went to four super bowls with it. So everybody kinda credits marv Levy but this was all all Sam why she's innovations. How much fun was it? Playing all the different huddles and give us some insight on that like I said. It was so innovative and it just seemed like week to week. We would come up with different things. And of course Sam White and Bruce Caused Offense coordinator they. They were just so innovative. And just the sugar huddle and trying to catch the defense offsides all the time. Get a free five yards. Because they had they were changing nickel defense. And we're going try to keep them out of the nickel defense and with catching with twelve guys on field so Those five yards. Penalties was wasn't The Sugar Hoddle wasn't that initially called the Connell Hoddle and you guys date like the name of it. It was A. I don't know who came up with it. But the probably San Sam with the cuddle in more of a sugar sugar huddle were trying to get them guys. And we're always watching the sidelines. The the opposing team sideline waiting for them to switch. Their nickelback is coming in with. Maybe they're specialized pass rusher so soon as they start running on we'd we'd go on the line and it was just said Hut booming. With catch. Off Or yeah. Yeah the now you you are. One of the few people who's gotten to play in two different super bowls or two different coaches with the same team but it was still so what was the the different experiences. I think you kind of answered this. But the difference between the the chorus Greg in Michigan. Nancy the Sam Wine Florida Super Bowl experiences. Any anything notable or of the operation in the field going into the Games really the the first super bowl. I was in my third year so I was pretty young back then and and really everything was kind of new and different than you know. You're just totally different. But the second super bowl of course like I said our offense with just high-powered the first super bowl we were more ground and pound at a decent Really Good Ball control with Kenny. Anderson PINPOINT ACCURACY. Kinda passer Which made it a lot of fun. Chris Collins was think a rookie back then. Yes yeah real good wide receiver David vs and a few other guys. But we had big Pete Johnson. I think you a lot of people always remember. We got stuffed on the goal line Big Pete ran like three times and of course he can't jump so We could opt with big Pete and I think we threw a little flare up to Charles Alexander got stuffed on the goal line to so we got a shut out there. Yeah and and IT TURNS OUT. There was only ten guys on the field for the niners but they had. I think it was it. Was it hacksaw Reynolds that makes the on Alexander? That's the you have the right guy in the right place. You can have six guys out there. And they're gonNA make the tackle so it's yeah How about the field going into the game day you guys had you know nightlife before super bowl week coming in the Sam kind of let you guys enjoy more in was two totally different super bowls? One of Pontiac Michigan. There was five feet of snow up there. Of course we played inside the Pontiac Silverdome But outside it was freezing cold or snow everywhere. There's really not much to do When we're down in Miami course you have you know a beautiful sunshine just beautiful place. You're outside all time. I think we went one time to new week. We went deep sea fishing with the offense of wind. Maybe maybe boomer so stuff like that was kind of fun but then again you got gotta remember. We had a game. You got to concentrate every day that we had brasses great. Yeah Yeah I I have a question for you so you know when you look at your longevity back before we had all the modern techniques for for the players Prolonging the could I really if I if I I remember reading that you're the heart murmur. Your senior year of high school. Football career was in jeopardy. When you end and you end up marrying a pro bowl at age thirty seven I mean that's the kind of longevity I mean when you need the bengals know. It was a business decision as Stan but we keep you but but maybe like with Whitworth they think okay this guys thirty three thirty four you go on and have five more. Exited years with the Raiders. Six Games. I mean. It's incredible for that era. You know the eighties. The nineties is unheard of. So so how do you explain your your preparation because you know Tom Brady has made a lot of money off of playing into his early forties? And he's a quarterbacks athleticism in the grind of the office of back those I mean you can make a lot of money. I just want to you know if you if you share your diets secrets. Maybe in the book I I don't know what it is I think I stay pretty much. Not Injury free but but serious injury free for most of my career really only had one serious knee injury couple broken fingers or hands you know Not a whole bunch you know. I was pretty fortunate. The one bad back. You know other net. Pretty fortunate didn't have any major serious injuries and and just just working at the game and and enjoying the game not only year to year but weak the weak and you know enjoying the preparation and all that business. You know. Just being very fortunate. Yeah I know John. You wanted to ask him about Coach McNally absolutely. There's an article about your often. Line coach a couple of weeks ago and the athletic just talked about this the intricacies in the way that he was. Kinda brought up into the role of the offense line coach under Forrest Gregg. When you think of a coach mcnally what's what's really the what comes to mind in terms of justice. Coaching style his innovative ways. And as a follow up after that. What do you think impact on offense line play? Looks today really good? When I think about Jim McNally I think about number one. He's little Zany nutty little. Which makes it fun but Poetic technician You never played offensive line. He came up through. I think he was a walk on it. Buffalo University of the Lyman Little Bible Levin probably two hundred and forty two hundred fifty pound a d. Lineman so he never really played offense of line But he'd brought a lot of technicalities to us and it just intrigued him on on. How how we worked. And how. Things work as an offensive lineman and it was Kinda funny that he would actually bring a tape measure out to practice and he would kinda crawl around our feet and we'd take little steps and measure our steps and it was like a little mouse running around big elephants. You know it's amazing. They never got stepped on But you know we'd take six inch steps and if it was more than six inches. You're not doing it right or we'd take a kick step and very technical and I enjoyed that part of it too. Yeah it was. It was absolutely different. Like you know in the way that he coach. I think he kind of revolutionized the game but it it definitely it worked well with with Sam Weiss's type of offensive style in the scheme that you were type of the you're starting to run and you know in the last twenty or so years or so like the value of offense alive has increased exponentially. It's not only just about tackling more about it's about the guard subsisted that you played when you see now like the uprising value guards. You feel more valid at the because of the level of play that you had back in the day when they weren't as died as much. Do you feel jealous. That they're now starting to get paid a lot like tackles bore. No and they should be. I actually came in as an offensive tackle. I was at. Ucla played tackle was drafted out to tackle to the bengals and through some injuries. And so forth my rookie year. They PUT ME IN AT GUARD. Ever played guard before the interior and Just had a knack for it you know and I enjoyed the the aspect of pulling and trapping and and double checking linebackers blitzes. Different things that you have to do it. I really enjoyed that. I I was more pooling type guard and I was pretty good at it. I guess I wasn't real fast. But I had some good quickness absolute deter Max number of people have been asking about your restaurant. There's a lot of people didn't play their younger but they they know your presence with the the pen subs the Montoya's restaurant the you're Mexican rest. I didn't know they still open or not Open still doing it. The Gosh We. We opened that in one thousand nine hundred eighty five or something. Yeah I remember at war back then and yeah it. It's still going in and then I when I retired I knew I wanted to stay in the business so I went right into the Penn station. East Coast something that we have here in Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky were at the Philadelphia Cheese steaks. Teriyaki FRA fresh cut fries business goodness creditor. I know I know and I compare it again. No fence and I compared to Tom Brady. And they say he's never even had the strawberry but you know and again. Yeah I look at look at your lawn and I know and I really gives me encouragement about my own diets because you know I can really. You can have the cheese steak and my career is different. Not as physically demanding you know with the the hosting the show but I feel like maybe my longevity you know which is going to go a long time being a muppet. You don't look your age. Thank you know really. I haven't pretty good. Yeah I appreciate that. Would you to say when we're talking about the the restaurants I just wanted to say for my heart's you got offered. The you got a lot of money from the Los Angeles raiders to go home. You decided to keep your family in the northern Kentucky since that Area New York coming back and you're still there and you dedicated and you have been with the city with your runner for presents. I just WanNa say thank you on behalf of me and all the fans for you know your love for the city and the team thank you. He has been great. It's been a great experience and you know we we both my wife and I. We grew up in southern California and and really loved it up there. Then plan with the raiders to in L. A. And got to play in front of our our family and friends such that was a great experience. But but we just really Really enjoyed the Cincinnati Tri State area. And just a quality of that they have out here so it's been good plus we got the live next to the czar guards. Doctors are there in Villa Kentucky. So so I remember those times. Yeah I mean I remember date used to tell us about how they you know. They weren't very good that the mowing the lawn. And sometimes it could get go down the hill and they were fortunate. Enough to live next to an offensive. Lineman could drag that on lawnmower. The doctors argue was a brilliant. The doctor but he wasn't so good at gardening and cut grass and especially on the hillside and he was not interesting. Yeah I don't know if he if if you move there I a heated but maybe a strategic you know trying to move next of line. No Hewitt needs the help you know. That's right and vice versa. In being a doctor might it might help me also but the but yeah we. We had a good relationship was lot of fun to live next to. The doctors are are in the end. The boys but thank you. Hi I'm Arial Jim. Ross host of the tech podcast resets. And I'm here to tell you about some of the stories. We're following on reset this month stories about how were adapting to the pandemic with a little help from technology and science like what does teach him look like right. Now I can tell you. There's teachers right now. Who have been conducting their phone calls and check INS with students from random. Part Matz just anywhere that you can get. Why IN FOR FOLKS? Who can work from home? How is that working out now? It's my whole life is conducted via this Internet connection. Pandemic has changed what you might think of Prep Irs. The preps were at home not going to Costco and waiting for twelve hours standing next to a bunch of other sick people. So if you WANNA understand the new normal how. Science and technology are shaping the way we live during the pandemic. Listen to reset. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. Spotify or in your favorite podcast APP later nerds. I know who has a question? Yeah yes first of all Max Mr Matzah. It's such an honor to have you on the show. What the big deal for US really. I wanted to say You blocked for a lot of the great greats Archie Griffin p Johnson icky woods. You Got Your James Brooks Jackson and of course Marcus Allen. So of course. We know that most running backs you know. They need a great line to be successful but sometimes a running back can help make the line even winter. So I'm thinking about your your your Corey Dillon. For example in in one thousand ninety seven what do you what do you think? How do you frame the current situation with getting getting someone like let's say? Joe Mix back how that seems to be very important for the for. Yeah you could expand on that. Aj Green you gotTa have some some tools out there. Yeah go boroughs coming in. He's going to be Rookie that's of course heisman. Trophy winner number one pick and yet but still when you come to the NFL. It's a whole different ballgame than college and and it's great that he's got some weapons out there with the Nixon or the mixing rather Yeah and AJ Green thank goodness. He's coming back in a few other guys so hopefully they're often blind though you've got to have boys up front if you don't have an office of line. He's going to be running for his life. What what if I could follow up on that because I actually. That was my next question so I know it's hard sometimes to to take things down to one thing but if you had to essence of a great offensive line the essence one thing. What is it Boy You've gotTa have cohesiveness between the five guys. I always think of it as a fish. You know you've got five here. We go five guys and they got together like a powerful fist. And that's what make makes a great offense of wine. You don't all have to be number. One draft picks in fact we had the number one offense in the NFL in the late. Eighties I was a seventh rounder. Joe Next next to me He was I think seven or eight Bruce Kozerski Bruce Rymere's picker So yeah you just gotTa have some guys that truly love what they're doing in a heck of a coach. Jim McNally you know. Of course. Yeah thank you. Thank you very much. Yeah Max so you talking about the. Yeah you talk about offensive line. And that's true. I talk about our offensive line because the bengals management believes in them you know. Even though there is a bit of question marks you know But there's some guys that are started that we know and there's some day you know we get Johnny Williams back and that's something you guys we don't know we don't know. Michael Jordan could start that maybe. Not You know Sophie Lowe could be Fred Johnson. We to figuring it out but I want to ask you this. You played with Ken Anderson. Who was one of the top rushing for their backs a couple of years and you paid with boomer who kind with his play fakes right and blue office of the running game to you. GotTa yeah that to fool the defense with your play fakes. Yeah Yeah exactly. Yeah and Joe Borough now. This guy is just brilliant at evading would be a sacrilege and pass rushers and whatnot. He's brilliant and so even if the offense of light is not there yet. Do you think with garlic bureau. You think that would help them transition and he will not get the rattler gun shy or those kinds of things a big big question mark getting gun shy because then you start seeing goats you know you start thinking you're going to get it from one side or the other you know he might be good pointed a couple of Russia's but you can't live on on that You've got to be able to trust your people out front. Trust your your wide receivers to make the bright breaks and the be open and you gotTa have decent running game to keep the defense honest so it all goes hand in hand. You just have to have a good team to put it all together but you gotta have a great leader. And that's what I love about. Joe Boroughs. He seems to be a great leader. Now he can make things happen much like a Joe. Montana did us in the Super Bowl's in throughout his career. Just made things happen many months. So yeah and you know really we look at borough see that kind of Montana type potential and really I you know I think for you and the bengals legends. How important would it be for them to finish the job? That you guys have started using has got so close twice. I mean when they talk about Super Bowl history and the greatest games in the closest games are talking about the greatest teams. That should have won the superbowl. It's you guys. And so so champions in our hearts it's just a game and the game could go either way you know I mean the underdogs in the second one. Yes so how important. Is it for you and those banks legends? You know I'm thinking of the guys that you know. We knew when we were dead. Or you know and How important is it for you to see borough a guy like him? A true finished the job and I think he be the guy that the taken to to the world championship. But I'd like to see him. Just win a playoff game. For number one echoed stuff. But we got a with a playoff game and then advanced Because it's like two different seasons you play sixteen regular game seasons play the next season which is the play offs. And it's a game by game and it's one and done so you gotta take care of business. Yeah should guys you have more questions. I have one question if you have questions for Joe For for for for my expertise go ahead. I have one and it's just GonNa try to you know we're dealing with the fan base right now. That a big majority of them have never seen a playoff win. And I keep trying to tell people on my show. Hey this is a process. Can you draw? See the parallel. Between 'cause you were on a team that kind of ended and then rebuilt and then came back to the second super bowl in the same decade. And can you see that kind of transition going on right now with the building pieces as we move from a from Andy Joe and from a Louis to Taylor kind of regime I mean I see those pieces being built? And that's why I'm so optimistic about the future. Yeah Yeah I am optimistic to I came in to the Cincinnati Bengals. One thousand nine hundred seventy nine and that first year in seventy nine. We were Four and twelve. We were not very good in fact. We're pretty bad. The next year my second year I think we were six ten and the year after that we went to the super bowl so that I can see that progression going on with these these guys the nucleus guys in the now the addition of boroughs coming on Hope hopefully it'll be a great quarterback and lead them to a super bowl champion of the guys with the new coach and players in the old players. I gotTA BUY INTO. The New coaching style in Direction. The coach taken them. So that's why I think with that. You know it's chemistry type thing that you out And they can go. You know. I feel very optimistic about this. Okay Guys John. Any final questions Yeah just a quick one a couple years ago. The BENGALS had their fiftieth anniversary team squad. You were obviously game is one of the greatest players in franchise history. Did you come down to Cincinnati to be a part of the Festivities A in fact. It was a great thing. I wish the bengals would do more that right They did have a big celebration of the top fifty guys. I was very humbled to be forgotten. I was like number thirteen years but it was kind of Nice to be voted in there and then they had old top fifty guys there and introduced everybody and like I said the Cincinnati is a great place in. It's great the sports town in the the Bengals fans just love the players in the old guys an honor or it's exactly right like the fans want more of that recognition of past players in in legends of the team. And like you Kinda lose you I. It would be nice if the players have their recognition in itself. So I'm not trying to put you on the spot like Major anything like this but it is that like a common just like kind of a desire for four players to have Ring honorable more cases like that where you're honoring past players like that. I do like the ring of honor idea. You Know I. I think as a player as an old player you know. We gave our blood sweat and tears for for the city and and the and and for those players that that did that and excel very well in the NFL. I think it's a great thing not only for the players for the fans because The fans are fantastic. And like you guys in the people that listening to broadcasts and everything else and and the reminisce and everything It's it's a great thing. I think that it's a tradition. That should be carried on and I hate to say but but I finished my last five years with the raiders. And they're kind of like that once Raider always raider. Okay will Max I think. Do you have any final question if you don't mind eight? It's more because I want to end on really high note and I was thinking about What what Super Bowl? Twenty three minutes for a lot of us not just bengals fans but people people don't remember that Super Bowl Twenty. Three was was the beginning of really big super bowl halftime. Show talking about your Hardee's your dancers with the with the huge playing cards. Elvis Crystal. The show was broadcast in in the halftime show was broadcast in Three D. I think you mentioned once. Monthly that Your biggest memory of the game was that Diana Ross sang the national anthem. I wonder like what is the best member that you have from Super Bowl? Twenty twenty three. Wow best memory I think just my family and friends were were there in my kids. They're young at that time. There might have been five or six years old if time in just them guys enjoy all the experience of that stuff as a player. It's great to go in there and and play Especially coming up before kick-off you come out of the tunnel you know it's super bowl But I think just enjoying that with the with all your family and Francis instance a big deal. Thank you pretty cool. Yeah Yeah I just Wanna I read something on your wikipedia. Page about You'll are training courses in Hebron Kentucky is that is that true we do. I got into to driving horses actually competitively and I dunno puts all that stuff on with. Up Yeah but the yeah we we got into it. My daughter actually wrote voices of all places. She started taking lessons when we were playing for the La Raiders and she took lessons with Patti. My wife's up up there in La and then she carried that on came back to the Northern Kentucky and started writing competitively in was very successful with that. And then my wife. And I we said well you know when she goes to college and She Kinda Road For you University of Kentucky and everything and we thought well. Let's do something we can. We can. Why but I know I did not write horse. I'm too big so I thought I'd just start driving in. It's been a lot of fun. Well thank Mr Mom giving a so much of his time. Yeah it's great to see. Yeah you didn't look like when you were little kids. No we've grown in. We HAVE WE HAVE TO GET. The most is lot of a lot of hormones. But Max you by the way I mean everybody knows you look fantastic. Always I mean you know Nancy Brown Mike Brown's wife was right. I mean she. She supposedly had a poster of US trying to hide for Mike Brown. I read is infatuated. Line fine wine. That's a rumor that get also forced. Greg's wife Kinda liked the Anthony. She Oh man I just I mean I don't want to. I don't know I know you leaving the Bengals as a financial thing but I just wonder if Mike Brown was maybe jealous. I don't know what was going up. It was a very. I don't know I don't know I don't know brilliant but when you look great you know great like offense of diamond. I think the only athletes you know who gets in better shape. They BETTER SHAPE. But you know healthier for the long term and When when the NFL guys retire all the skinny good looking guys get fat in all fat ugly guys get Kinda Thin. It works out looking down again. Yeah I'M GONNA I'M GONNA stick to that Diet Max. Mary cured takes states wishing on. Toya's by the way it was fantastic restaurant when I was there authentic. The down a great service is very comfortable environment. If you haven't been to Montana is definitely gone. You will love it. You Love Experience Max. Thank you so much for your time and we hope to have again on the show possible and you when the next dynasty. Yeah we'll bring you back on the field when that happened one I think.

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The Connecticut Sports Guys

Connecticut Sports Guys

1:59:51 hr | 1 year ago

The Connecticut Sports Guys

"Radio. you're tuned in to the Connecticut. Sports is on blog talk radio call in to join the conversation live at three, two, three, four, one, seven, six, seven, zero, one. We're live every Tuesday and Thursday night at seven. PM. Let's head into the studio right now. But Connecticut sports guys are on the air Right Sports, guys, and I'm rolling in Knoxville Schmidt Right. Now, as we get ready to get you two hours of lively sports debate on this Thursday evening, the thirtieth of July how you doing tonight, nate. I'm doing fantastic Joe Happy to be here and I am happy to be watching some LOB sports. I gotTA gotTa admit it's making my life more happy. It is it is it is I and little bit of benign. No basketball's going on tonight for the first time I'm looking forward to the weekend I actually bought the package last night. So I'm looking forward to really when that case in this weekend and basketball courts back in baseball. Even with the spending play of the Marlins and a few other things It's good at the baseball players back although this week it's kind of like it. To me even with what we've been through over the last year watching what the Yankees did to the Baltimore Orioles just. Having an extended batting practice against them and then you got Jacob degrom visiting well, just well enough to knock it a to get a no decision the Boston it looks like the New York. Teams are back in midseason for. A week on the right. Yeah I mean you know with the Graham was trying to continue his thirty one inning scoreless streak which was tied for third in franchise history. It didn't have his greatest stuff I didn't think but they let him go a little bit longer I think they'd been holding them below about sixty pitches. In his previous start but they let him throw six, eighty, eight pitches. It certainly wasn't his fault that they lost and You know it goes back to what we talked about last week I mean the Yankees have a bullpen and the mets don't and I know Alex? Loves. Lugo. But he came in and the seventh and gave up a home run to Bosca's and. Then Justin Wilson. Came came in and the aid and he didn't pitch horrible but he walked three people and then that's when those bloopers You know the bloop single that he gave up. That's that's when you get hurt when you walk a bunch of guys and then you give up a little bluebird and that gave up the lead in and dig ROMs pitching performances. wasted. So you know it's it's the exact same thing we talked about on Tuesday the bullpen of the mets was looking. Bra. But the bullpen of the Yankees. Great you know we got to see Garrett Cole pitch again and he went six in two thirds and gave up the runs but he had seven strikeouts and then the pen came in and gave up zero run. So they were able to be the the lowly oriels which you know was nice that they get to play them. I. Guess. Yeah I did I mean. By the way so people know Alex will be tuning in later on with us he's he's busy coaching across right now but anyways Yeah but you know the whole thing with the with the Yankees and maybe it's just my bias against tonight night. Admit to it I mean I mean really they are just so much better than Baltimore? It's almost unfair. It's almost four watch Any I mean even even against other teams, they have such a huge margin for error with that team. That's so loaded and as you say has the bullpen and order has apparently at least a. An ace now with a solid starting staff where everybody else is going to be the The the the narrative of the year for the mess is GonNa be the margin of error they they. They have to play their best and we talked about the other day I'm for getting guys go with younger town taking your chance Jd Davis maybe at third putting you know You know the other guys in places when letting them play everyday and establish team. But then again when they have nights where they can't big plays. Where they're not getting you're going to have those kind of. Waste. Great pitching performances like we did with the Graham and we've been doing it for now we're going on for years I mean he's won two cy young just because he's been dominant and people had to recognize it you can't look at his record on another team would have great supporting cast. You already have one hundred wins in his career and he's still thirty four victories away from having is hundred win in the major, league? That this is related aimless mazes. Not mean great pitcher and Syndergaard to He'd you know he's not throwing right now but he's a great too but he pitches her the mets and he gets no help behind him and they can't generate runs either. So it's you know they gotta get it together the season's not over they got a couple. You know they got they got some time but you know this is a shortened season that sixty games, and this is what we didn't want to see coming out of the gate was exactly what we're seeing. Any you know the whole thing is you know, I know the mets are going through transition or trying to sell the team they're trying to you know Brodie, van wagon the only been on. The job for two years. Now they've got a new manager you know they're trying to implement all kinds of changes, but you'd like to see some kind of a light in the tunnel where they're building towards something like the Yankees had you know a couple of years ago when you to going through the building, you know they still all automatically. So Gary, Sanchez takeoff, you saw Aaron Judge Take off you know bonds almost like you know he's the real deal but I mean, you'd like to see a little bit more consistency from a Conforto like import out he's very, very streaky. NEA's it's hard. Play for the you know to the bands to get behind him when he can go through a series like this where he's non-existent and all of a sudden in a week, he'll go in a seven game series go something like you know Twenty for forty two. You know you're you're sitting there going well now you know why we got him and it just WanNa see consistency from this team you WanNa see it. Generally is be able to take your business. I mean. Right now, the Red Sox aren't that much better really than the Baltimore Orioles a Lotta in a Lotta ways and the mets good. Sweep the series. And they're GONNA win three out of four whereas you know the Yankees would've taken care of business and that's that's the difference. When you sit here, I know you're banned from an, you have a passenger to mess with really is a painting. But when you're around here and you're running into defense right and left and right and left and you feel like your tv I, don't know I don't know if you get that feeling down where you are I mean I don't know if you have back in Anno inferior already complex I guess I have up here. Oh I do because my dad's a Yankees Fan. So you know I have to listen to him you know laughing at me and it you know I it just it. It hurts a little bit and I was excited about the season I mean, let's be honest. I mean can Ford does he's hitting the ball he's got seven hits Nemo hitting the ball spit is is hitting. The ball I mean we we've got some decent bats, but it's just can they put it together and can we Can we survive in the later innings? mean the this bullpen is scares me and Alex is a little more optimistic than I am but that's because I'm jets and mets fan and When you're Jetson mets, it's you know there's a lot. There's a lot of clouds. You look back at at the Yankees like we were talking about. You know they had beyond green and Christie come in and gave up zero runs, their bullpens getting done, and they don't even have Chapman Chapman. You know as we talked about it in the preview show tested positive for covert and has not yet to pitch in a game I don't believe and They're still they're still doing it and getting it done in the pen. So you know. We talked about there's probably not gonna be that many many trades They'RE GONNA have to get it done with the guys they have. But you know maybe getting another arm in there wouldn't hurt him I. Don't know I don't know what the answer is. It's kind of like a Tuesday when we were talking about the Knicks I. Don't know where to start with that roster and the mets they're going to need a little bit of help but there's just not going to be a ton of trades I don't think as you mentioned. I don't think it all. The that's that's you be little with Yankees doing but I mean, I've seen some bad pittsburgh teams. I've seen some bad Kansas City team I help scenes bad met teams but I don't know if I've ever seen a team as bad as just Baltin orienting. It's almost like no they belong in the major leagues. It's usually you look around team and even on your worst here have one or two or three maybe maybe a picture you can build on maybe a you know a couple of fielders. You can see that that are gonNA form the core of their batting order. This team is just horrendous I. Don't know have you ever seen team then this bad. I don't know I don't know. I have to admit I. watched the game was was it last night? Yeah. Last night I can't I'm getting my days confused coming back off vacation now being at work I'm running around like a crazy man trying to get caught up and I'm confused but yeah, last night. I've got to be honest I watch a lot of sports I watch a lot of baseball I'm more of a football guy is you know but I've always baseball I didn't know a lot of those guys I didn't know may only any of them I'm like where's Adam Jones whereas anybody that I've ever heard of on this orioles roster I mean who's Their Star, WHO's the guy that brings people to Camden yards I mean obviously, you can't go there right now. But I'm saying WHO's the superstar? WHO's the leader of that club I have no idea and then I looked at their pitching staff just to see if there was some guys there that I knew their pitching staff might be worse than their lineup. They may be the worst team. They're definitely the worst team in baseball in my opinion, and they've definitely got the worst lineup. Maybe they'll come together as a team in wins and games I don't know. But I definitely in my opinion going from top to bottom up and down that roster, they have the least amount of town in my opinion. And by far by far, I've never seen this team that I really, and that's why I in a way you know and not to do you know do the servicing Yankee but it's almost like it's uncertainty they have the Yankees. Game and it would be more and. More competitive for sure because what they're showing out, there is nothing we you know baseball continues deal with the fact of the Marlins and the Phillies, and you know how they're gonNA, Rearrange your schedule. If you're GONNA come back now they're talking about maybe if they have to make up games having is a double header having both games or at least a later game, the seven inning game how do you feel about that? I don't like that I don't like I mean I I've been I've been pretty open to change considering I. Am a tradition you know traditionalist as you know I like I fear change but I've been accepting of with all that's going on I've been accepting the no fans understand we gotta do we gotta do with the pandemic I've been accepting of the putting the guy on second base I get it when we don't have three you know we don't have single. Aa. Triple eight going on that we can call guys up send guys down and do all the. Normal stuff. So I kind of understand those things. But what are we doing now playing high school baseball and going seven innings? We're GONNA have coach pitch next and have these guys dads come out there and throw to him I mean give me a frigging break I. I don't really like that and I i. think we're already short in the season to sixty games from one sixty two. That's a hundred and two games difference. We've already added a guy running out there on second base I mean what are we gonNa have four outfielders I I just I. Think it's stupid. I do tuning in in the worst thing I can see it coming down to is it comes down to a team qualifying for playoffs and they get to play a seven inning game I mean we you have a team competing in nine any game you can't do that I mean you can't scenario and football and saying, okay, you only three quarters. know exactly you know we can't. You know you gotta play. Just to keep it all above board on the same page, you can't start messing around I understand we're in we're in. Uncharted territory and we don't WanNA put these guys in new farm quite as it's you know as it turned out, it was those guys going out and and breaking the social protocols they got them in trouble wasn't anything that went on in the field if they had. Done what they're supposed to do obey the rules we wouldn't be having this problem with the Mar- The marlins. So I think they got to really push the fact that these guys is you guys at three months of your life is you know you know you look around this country there are people have been sitting home because they can't afford to dinner for three months. You can. You can sit there if you really want to play baseball in, obey the rules and. Do the stuff you gotTa do to make this happen. So I have no pity for them and I. Hope I hope that they they get this thing straightened out What is your feeling about nick? Marquess you think maybe we might see a couple of other players make a decision to come back or are we still going to be like an elevator some going out some backs I'm going out some going back. What do you think about? Marquette decided to come back. I don't I don't really I'm kind of against it I know at least from what they've talked about. In the NFL if you opt out, you're done and you can't come back. You can't decide after watching two games that you want. You know you WANNA be out there and you WANNA be on. TV like these other guys are that's exactly what he said. He said he's been sitting at home watching Games on TV and he you know he just got this bad feeling in his stomach and he wanted to come out and play with his teammates well, then you should have done that from the beginning bro and it's like. I I i. opted out because a health risk. Well, guess what we're all facing health risk right now I you know I can't opt out of going to work. I have to work every day to feed my baby and you know pay for you know the bills are still coming. So I gotta you gotTa go the everyone's taking risk right now and I just I kind of feel like I liked the NFL's attitude towards it and what they've kind of worked out with the players union, they're giving these guys some time to decide. They've got a little way where they're doing the tolling, where their their contract basically tolls over to next year and they're getting three, hundred, fifty thousand if they're at risk and they're getting a hundred and fifty. Grand if they're not and they're giving these guys a choice and they're saying either decide to play or don't decide to play and I and I'm not, you know I'm not belittling anyone's decision that they make. But I I just feel like if you decide that you're not gonNA play in you opt out I. Don't think you should get to come back. A couple of. Weeks. Later, I just feel like either need to do it or not do it and I don't. I don't really understand that baseball's allowing these guys that kind of go back and forth are you? Are you aware that they have a they don't have a rule against this they're just letting guys come back if they want to or what? I think it's uncharted territories and you know you don't baseball we've seen from baseball since this whole thing began as they did not plan anything out. It was all about the money how they were going to split them money how we're GONNA get they did not look into. Well are we going to give these guys the option of look at the sitting home taking yourself or taking a leave of absence and coming back doing this I? Don't think they never sat there and put any contingency plans You know John. Wooden would say you know you know failing the planet is plays is cleaning out the anything. This is what we're finding with. The Major League baseball all the way down the road and and I think it just shows from top to bottom that they they're commissioner is kind of a rookie in. SAFE, state. So we'll see what happens but I. I mean I would in part of me would love to see some of these guys. Want to come back but I agree with you you know we don't want that either where you know you have these guys all of sudden you know in week. Eight week nine, decide well, I can play twenty games. I can go what it looks like. It looks like everything's settled down now and all of a sudden you know some of these guys get to add some. Ryan Zimmerman, comes in and becomes that player that Washington needs and prevents the mets from making a run. You know you don't want. That kind of thing happening. So yeah, I totally agree with you that. Or David Price. I mean he's as as Alex mentioned, he's not the pitcher he once was but let's say he decides to come back after the dodgers you know make the playoffs and I hate the dodgers the last thing I wanna see them getting better once they get to the postseason I mean I just I I really don't like that and I think you know you need to you need to decide and. As, we've talked about all along the MLB is just Seems to be the least prepared of any of these sports. I'm not saying that basketball's plane is imperfect and You know that they're great or at the NHL has no flaws in it or anything like that. This is all as you mentioned uncharted territory, but it seems like baseball just kind of thought about the money and then. decided well, we'll figure everything else out later and they're finding out that that's not going to be quite as easy as expected You know as they as you mentioned, these guys decide to go out to a club. They're already taking the frisked by traveling way more than these other. Guys that are you know doing the thing and the bubble or playing up in Canada like the NHL they're traveling around hopefully, you know more regionally than ever but they're and they're going out to the club and and picking up chicks that are giving them Kovin I mean absolutely ridiculous and these guys I hope they learn from this because I hope the other teams learn from this because if this continues it could be a you know I it could be a stop season real fast. For, sure you're talking to you when we're talking on the phone before about the football players I didn't see any new names come out today. Did you see any new names commander of of people opting out? I did then they still have a days. A lot of people are waiting, but there was they. They're having everybody come in for testing right now in the NFL and I guess they're just trying to get an idea of where they are but you test positive you're automatically put on the cove it I are is what they're calling it and I know for a fact that up in Detroit Kenny Gallaudet who's their? Maybe their best player, but their best wide receiver in their biggest offensive threat he he tested positive. For Kobe. So he's on the the cove it I are which I'm not the language was a little bit tricky I read it but I'm not sure if it's a three week, I think he's out maybe out for three weeks I think it's a twenty one day thing where he has to Kind of go into quarantine, and then they kind of ease them back in They also had TJ Hopkinson who's their second year tight end who's another big part of their offense he tested positive. So there's been some guys that have opted out, and then there's been some guys that have tested positive and what that does is it you know it puts everything even more kind of behind the eight ball in the sense that these guys are GonNa be. Late, getting there to the conditioning lot of camps are starting They reported reporting on the twenty eight and yesterday other teams started and today was the last day that team started. So guys are showing up getting, tested and some of them like day and Hopkinson are popping, and that's just pushing them back from getting. You know they're not going to start wearing pads hitting each other right now but with no OTA's with no off-season program with no mini camp. This is when they need to start getting into shape and it's just making it more and more difficult to try and get You know a team together to get things rolling. Now, I don't think Freeman is still out there as a free agent right now right? That's correct. what do you going down anybody trying to make a move towards him? I mean? Right now I'm here. Go ahead. No I was just GonNa say that apparently he He was offered a contract I. believe it was in Seattle. But. It wasn't the he wanted more money, and so he said and I I heard this from his agent that he's willing to sit this year out. I don't know if he's just going to opt out or if he's GonNa sit out based upon contract, but he's wanting more money than people are wanting to give him I mean the guy's been banged up for two seasons. Now are the better part in two seasons he's still a good player and I think he's got gas left in the tank but you know he he was holding out and he turned down some contracts based on that and then I did you're asking if anyone else opted out I did see that the chiefs running back Damien Williams who was a big part in their super bowl run he opted out of the season. So that was one that was probably the biggest name of the guys that I heard that opted out today. Yeah. Just wondering if you know Freeman with with people opting out if that might open up the door for him a little bit it looks like Seattle trying to put together a run. They're they're really serious. Of Atoms and things like that, I think pe- Caroline. He's getting You know he's those this team back up again to compete but I mean, he's not getting any younger. I. He's getting towards seventy or not seventy already. So have that he's he's pushing it off to the center table going all in. So might not be a bad for Freeman end up if he was willing to take some kind of an incentive, laden contract kind of Cam Newton and go up there and make money that way I mean. I don't know he's these players they a you know it seemed like when like when Bell Levy on bell sat out for a year and then you think he was gonNA end up with the jets and all of a sudden he goes back to the jets and he finds a coach that doesn't like him at all sitting out for A. Year and getting healthy may not be always the best solution the I I don't think it especially, it'd be a chance to join a championship level team like Seattle. So Freeman might might end up regretting that we'll see what happens there We'll come back to the NFL with a wild because WANNA. Go over. We had the NFL players voted on. The top one, hundred player of all time in our last half hour I wanna get to the top twenty there, which is kind of intriguing a little a little bit but we also have to get to our NCAA top twenty running back of all time and my I don't know how your list came together. Man is a lot of players. On that list, you have to go through a lot of grief running back from in NFL AARON NCAA history we got that to get to, and of course, you're GONNA, call it three, two, three, four, one, seven, six, seven, one you send over something we quick about Tennessee and their schedule. It looks like they're putting lsu old misunder scheduled this year. Yeah, I was just mentioning how the The sec they finalized their plan today to go with a ten game you know in we talked about this before that they were leaning towards this but they kind of finalize the plan they're going to start their season. The whole SEC conference is going to start their season on September twenty six and they're gonNA play ten Conference Games, and basically how they're going to do it is they're going to add two additional opponents from the opposite side. So like using the Tennessee example there in the east, they're going to add ole miss and lsu to their scheduled to make it a full ten game slate and. I mean, this is GonNa. This is GonNa make it really interesting I actually more intrigued now after hearing this I think it's GonNa. Be Kinda. Cool. I. Mean There's GonNa be no Alabama versus you know Montana state there's GonNa be no Alabama Birmingham at Auburn you know this is GonNa be Conference Games every week we already talked about in our preview segment how the SEC my opinions just gotten better I mean look at the coaches they've added. Lane Kiffin and old Miss Mike Leach. Mississippi State you got the lsu coming back You know after the national championship with Miles Brennan quarterback with Joe Borough Gone I mean this is going to be a conference game every single week for ten weeks You know battling all the way up to where they play the SEC championship. The only thing that I didn't catch in my research was how they're going to figure out who the national you know who the four teams are that go into the you know the National Championship College Football Playoff. This is what we talked about to several weeks ago when we were saying this would be a great. Time where they had an eighteen playoff, you know I mean if you took all the teams you know you've got basically five power five conferences. If you could take the best eight teams at the end of the season after they play their ten games I think it would make a really cool tournament this year but I'm not sure how they're gonNa do that as far as picking maybe they do the same thing. They always do where they they send it to the committee and let them choose You know the top four teams but I think it's Kinda interesting how this this conference schedule thing is shaping out. I totally agree with you I would love to see them expand a little bit more and have a semi final final in the conferences. Get the top. Yeah. Have I have a fourteen tournament in the conferences have a semi-final final weekend now later. The top teams are actually playing twelve games or they're playing twelve with Jit Games, and then set that up for like you said an eight-game tournament i. think that would make this a while wonderful NCAA season I think it would be phenomenal the. Could see. The ATC Clemson. On Notre Dame, North Carolina and Florida State and Alabama Auburn Lsu and you know. Named one of the other great team Georgia. I mean when to his aid a week I think that would be. I mean you could sit up into a Saturday Thursday combination uneven which would be great I. Mean I. Go ahead. No I love it. I love it. I think it'd be really cool to once again it's because we've got the NCAA still involved. is got You know these idiots in charge I mean they if we had a decent organization actually run in this thing, they could do a lot of things here and get creative and make it really cool and really fun where you know hopefully the pandemic slowed down a little bit by the time the seasons completed, and then we could do something like that and take the. Top four teams and play a semi final and then play a championship game because it's you know, what are you GonNa do at the end of this if Georgia's Teno Bama's tend to know they play in the conference. Championship. Game. Georgia wins then Alabama's out I mean I. I. I think that's ridiculous and One thing just real quick. We were talking about you were talking about Freeman he when he turned down the sea hawks offer, they immediately went in and signed Carlos High. So like Oh talked about Pete Carroll and all them, I know I didn't want to get off. Because we moved on but my my brain wasn't working at that time. But yeah, I think they're primed for run here in last year with all those injuries at running back they wanted to add one more guy. So when Freeman, turn them down they added the old Ohio. State Guy Carlos? Hyde. Ran over a yards last year for the Texas. Coincides equality back I mean even he's never gonNA. Make you you know forget about the top action in the Imia Nfl, but he definitely knows how to get things done. The other thing ACC came out I got this from Jason Bomb lose the s I. D. for Boston College and The most incredible thing is you know they are doing the same thing with their their football wins and the team I mean to get the Catholics to agree to split their money is really is really something strange and for Notre, dame to agree to ten to. Go Catholic Church and ask them for money. They're always asking for money for you come on. Really I mean. Come on tithing don't they? They must. They must increase the hiding. Take take a little something that everybody's pocket a little bit more out of their paychecks. Subway they're going to get it back for them to split their NBC money and agree to come on board and I mean I don't think any alternatives I mean it would have been ridiculous seeing Notre Dame filling out there a schedule with a bunch of mid you know mid American teams or Yukon or what are these other teams I mean maybe maybe it sets precedent would come up your high horses and You know become a real part of the ACC. I mean I'm a Notre Dame fan every note about me, but I also don't like the. Of Notre Dame with their you know we're more and more we're more. They're not more powerful than anybody anymore been a long time. Since Notre Dame has been a real legitimate. NCA football power the you know days of air procedure in you know win a national championship are long in the rear view mirror right now. So maybe if they would. Horses and join the ACC on a full-time basis. They could set up a recruiting base where they would get. Better players and get. quarterbacks like we've talked about to make del happening, and also it helps the ACC. Now to have them in the mix and you know they should. They can maybe put together a schedule where it won't be Clemson on a extended victory lap. So hopefully, it works out down because. We really want this to be a good college football season and. Without. Further Ado I. Think we should probably get into our top twenty running back for. A long time to get through because I got I got a bunch of honorable mention is well. And If you want to start out well, we start with the monorail mentioned. Go ahead. Give me your honorable mention guys. I you. meet. ME. Can you hear me out there right now? Need I duNNo. Lost you out there. Please dial back in. I think we might have lost need for a few minutes we're putting together as we been doing last few weeks the top twenty and CA list we've gone through the top defenders, and now we are in the top wide receivers. Now are running backs in i. believe we got an eight back here. Let me see. We got him. Yeah, I'm here I I was there I got kicked off but I called right back in. But I, was I was on mute or something but can you can hear me now? Right? The, I got you. That's good. Okay. Now, the other thing I was GonNa say was I was agreeing with you I think it's a win win for everybody I mean Notre Dame was already playing a six game ACC schedule I. Think they saw the writing on the wall they were GonNa get chucked out of this thing if they didn't join the conference with teams with all these teams and all these conferences only playing conference games they were in the big world of hurt 'cause they probably just get left out so and and like you said it's GonNa make the HEC stronger. Hopefully, they'll put them in the opposite division of Clemson and You know that way. It's not a ten in one or or excuse me ten to eleven clemson team against the you know eight and four Virginia like it was. Last year the year before it was Clemson Virginia Tech who was like seven and five I mean they need another team in that side but I think it'll be good. Yeah they definitely do you. WanNa start up the runback lists you start with the. Your Honorable Mentions Yeah my honorable mentions are two guys that I couldn't really actually. There's three guys that I couldn't really leave off one of them was gentlemen who just passed away recently Mr Johnny Majors I had him higher on my list, but I, you know just based upon I didn't really get to see him play I didn't WanNa take somebody else's spot but I was unbelievable football player. He was the runner up for the heisman trophy probably actually as we talked about Peyton should've winning Johnny major should win the Heisman to that was the year that your boy from Notre Dame won the heisman when they I think they were two and seven or something and They still gave it to to your boy from Notre Dame but he was a football player. Jim Around round was in that year to David Hammer Jim br ninety made. His Yeah they heisman. It's always been like that but I put johnny majors up there. I also wanted to include my boy Travis Henry from Tennessee all time leading rusher in Tennessee history he had five, hundred, fifty six carries for over three thousand yards, twenty six touchdowns, and if you think about it, the guy battled from injuries and then he also played in a. Backfield with Jamal Lewis, Shawn Bryson and Travis Stevens. So there was four NFL running backs and You had You had the guy come out being the the all time leading rusher so I had to put him in my in my honorable mention. So those those are the two that I that I included. I said, it was three but I was two guys. I'M GONNA go a little bit more extensive in my. Mentioned because I. Really had trouble poke going. Down I tried to keep it to the players I saw there's only one I I. I can't say I really saw him in college but I was you know I was a little kid when he started fleeing trophy also. But he made my my mean draw. So we'll start quickly ricky bell US's one of them for two years. I mean the guy was phenomenal seventies Darren mcdaddy with Arkansas another guy gap I almost thousand yards forty one touchdowns. Melvin Gordon with some concert. Another guy you know you talk about five thousand yards and forty five touchdowns. Through Diversity Eddie George I had to have money rb two years. thirty, three, hundred yards, thirty touchdowns. Davis of Iowa State even though he played on a terrible team, I mean Russia two thousand yards twice is pretty phenomenal. is awesome. Yeah. Cedric. Benson made my honorable mention sixty five under yards and sixty four touchdowns DeMarco Murray of Oklahoma. Thirty six, eighty, five, and fifty touchdown and then Derrick Henry that one year twenty, two, hundred yards and twenty eight touchdowns. I had to slide them in there because I go Doberman honorable mentions and believe me. I put fifty on this list they kept going for more. So if you want to start out number twenty, we can start a week and started of now. Yeah This is a guy that probably a lot of people wouldn't tap on this list because he got in zero credit. But when it was all said and done he had seven hundred and twenty five carries for forty four, hundred yards, thirty eight touchdowns. He finished sixth in the Heisman last year and he also finished second all time at Ohio State University and that's Jk Dobbins one of the best running backs I've ever seen in my life I thought he was by far the best running back in college football last year I. Think you're GonNa see I just I'm I'm pretty I'm putting my sports reputation on this guy because he is GonNa blow up for the Baltimore Ravens in the next in the next season or two and i. Just loved watching him play Ohio state he he was so strong and so relentless run the football. He could. He could get you those one or two yards on third down in one or fourth down in one but he also wants he ran over one or two people could race and you know just get past the defensive backs because he was so fast and I love watching. This guy play I'm GonNa Miss Watching him play at Ohio state as he's been there the last three years and went over a thousand yards. All three years he was at Ohio state and just ended up you know coming in second there's been a lot of great running backs up there and to to finish second all time I had to put him at number twenty online. Good. Really good choice I mean. I really I. I saw him only in the big games last year. But definitely, any definitely in the right spot in the NFL with the the Ravens and that offense and I mean he'll fall right in there and I think a very productive pro-career. My number twenty is Kind of on the wacky people the NFL over the last thirty years. But his time in labor longhorns Ricky Williams. With a productive back sixty, two, hundred yards, seventy, two touchdowns Is brokering maybe had highs and lows, and maybe the he liked to smoke the gun a little bit too much. Yeah. Definitely. More highs than lows with ricky. And all. But as far as being a productive running back in the NCAA I had to put him in my number twenty. So I'm going with Rick Quick. Yeah. No, he's. He's on my list. He's actually pretty high up on mine because he was just unbelievable and You know I I kinda misunderstood too mean. He's got a little quirks to his personality but really he's a good guy and You know I think there was a lot put on his shoulders when they saints traded away like eight players forum in their entire draft You know they just kind of expected them to win every game at running. Back and it was you know I understood why you may have had some issues with but unbelievable guy, my number nineteen is a do that is the all time leading rusher in NFL history but also had a really good career at Florida was one of the first players to come to get Florida on the map and football people forget you know Florida's been around for some years now but before spurrier got there and before they had those National Championships. To wasn't really a you know a powerhouse back in the day but Emmett. Smith. Had almost four thousand yards and thirty six touchdowns and and was just a a bad ass when he was playing for the gators. Have moved higher up I. Totally agree with you I mean they were third class citizens, men Miami was so great and win Florida state was there you had to work harder? You were a gator to get noticed so you're definitely was he was maybe the best back whoever came out of Florida and I definitely agree with you I got a little bit higher up my number nineteen I went to North East undersized croker ended unfortunately a controversy what for a guy for Scarlet Knights Ray rice a small guy almost five thousand yards where nine stands with rutgers Had A quarterback there to work with him never really had a great team around him and He was just quality college back and as good as maybe the best teams ruptured ever had were were because of him being there there centerpiece. So when we're Ray, right? Yeah my number. I think he's got to be the best player ever to come out of rutgers isn't he? I? Mean? I don't know I I can't think anybody else. I can't even I mean maybe you know somebody would argue somebody back in the late eighteen hundreds or hundreds when you know when you alison a program but not in my lifetime nobody near Rice. No he was really good player and was really good player in the. NFL to help, lead the Ravens to? The Super Bowl. They're I mean obviously. He kinda got made an example out of by by punching his fiancee in the face but you know. GotTa deal with them and we made right. There yeah exactly. I Made Up Discrimination I. Think we. I see Louis here on hold I'm going to bring him in for a quick. Shout out, and then we'll get back to our at number eighteen hold on. Let me get Louis up here. Sounds good. Louis. Is You Here. I mean nate how you doing Alex is doing some coaching McGraw's right. Now how are you doing Hey Louis? Right So you're working on the list jumped in late. So this is this. Is the top twenty NCA running back of all time. Yeah. That's A tough one. But at least we have everything coming into play you know basketball's back I'm actually watching the jazz podcast game right now. Hockey starts And don't Walk College football because I think we're onto something here. Because they found out something very interesting. which what's at? Four out of five. So called power conferences have now worked on schedule. It's like ten to eleven games of conference. Only schedule a conference only opponents but there there's still gonNA. Do it hey I got no problem with that beyond. The full cost at all. Okay. So it's not GonNa Labor Day weekend. Let's turned. That's fine. Yeah. We just we were just talking about that and We kind of think it might be interesting. You know you're not. GonNa have Alabama Plane Florida. Am this year you're going to have all conference opponents and even the lower level conference teams. They can come up and get fired up and you know maybe steal one so I think it makes a pretty good football. Well sure because you know, let's say like open please Florida. Or Texas employees like UMASS, I mean it doesn't really make for compared to football. Anyway I mean nobody wants to see that I could just see the score now Alabama eighty to. Florida. Three. Yeah. Yeah I mean there's probably wants to see that come on those. Yeah. There's always one or two of those games to start the year where you know Clemson plays Louisiana, tech, and beats him by seventy. It's like who cares play extras And bring the Conference Games on. Your we should is bringing Notre Dame in the ACC fulltime now, making them like that see and you know, I, always go. To be honest. Well I agree with you that would have been better all around. I mean, it would ideally would Maryland back seeing so You know these Catholics nowhere to go to get money and I, think they they don't want to give the ACC money for basketball tournaments. Had that kind of thing. And I was. Like super. Vantage I. was a kid nate. Remarkable to get Catholic give up half your money to play. And share that in indy money so It'll be really thing. When they ask you something before we go I mean Prediction Rangers. Re. Freund. Yeah well. I think it's a fairly even series. You know I've said I'm. GonNa see ringers. How did the islanders? Think they. Do that in four. So those survived survived the first round. I'll tell you there's a match up I'm really looking forward to is Edmund in Chicago I I think Chicago with some fresh legs might be able to get past Edmonson but we'll see what happens i. don't know if they'll have enough to get it through, but they do have a wealth of experience in three guys when the conn Smythe Trophy on that team, which is rare to have. So it's going to be All of that. Yeah exactly. So what you have going on this weekend Louis. When you're? Well. Let's just say we got the good. The Bad Oh yeah. We've got the ugly I mean the good guys We got Haagen basketball back. Hopefully football. The bad is you know with baseball ugly because you know with the Florida marlins right now it's looking really ugly and so it's not doing much better because they got they got in trouble too. I also have ridiculous I the week that I'm sure that most people in this area could agree on. How to find out what's going to be? Okay. Yeah, we'll talk. I never I don't like to play spoiler. Great. That Yeah. So it's ridiculous the week. We'll take a look at the other things, the NBA because the stays in the NBA to get that last spot is going to be very interesting. So You know I'll be discussing bad for so much on your own conclusions to that. Okay. do you ever see to the shadow of the show? The enhanced sport shows Saturday five to seven phone number? Five one, two, five, four, three, four, six, six, two. Thanks for. And we'll talk to you later. That's our boys we in. Yeah. So I mean I do the same about the way football meet. Maybe we'll finally get some some traction on the figured out. Get rid of these. Games and really get that. We're always talking about so. Good seem pages. No not and he mentioned that you know Notre Dame should have been in the big ten or whatever, and and I agree with that I mean. But you gotta you gotTa live with the now I mean the Regional Ping. Is Kinda gone I mean Tennessee's playing Texas saying them and you know rutgers and Maryland or in the big ten I mean the regional things already kind of gotten. Screwed up I mean Colorado's in the PAC twelve I mean it doesn't really make any sense anymore. So yeah. Order to get rid of the NCAA and their their dictatorship of their basically free Labor that they're making money off of if we've got to create these little Pie power conferences that have teams from all over I don't care do you gotta do to to get it right? I agree with you. All right. So who's your number eighteen? Number eighteen is actually one of the I. had him kind of high on my list because. As far as like the greatest running back ever I don't know but he's definitely one of the greatest running backs and he's one of the greatest football players ever in definitely one of the most exciting players to ever watch and that's your boy. Out of southern CAL you know four, forty, four, hundred, yards thirty, eight touchdowns won the two thousand, five heisman but he was so much more than stats I mean he was the best player on the team he could take any play to the house and was just an awesome football player and. I just love watching him play into think this is something that some people don't know. But something that I think about all the time you know he played a high school football and southern California Helix high school his quarterback in school was Alex Smith. And just think about that those two guys in high school team together. Oh. My Gosh that's a lot of talent for a high school squad. Well. My number eighteen is from the same school backed Reggie Bush has my number seventeen but this number eight times with before Reggie Bush and actually kept Marcus Allen on the bench for two years. His name was Charles White. Sixty two, hundred yards, forty nine touchdown passes where you touchdown so. the heisman trophy winner I, mean, it seems like if you played tailback at USC between nineteen, sixty, nine your own to thousands of your your. Predestined to win heisman but Charles White with a phenomenal player didn't work out in the froze. He was one of those guys who four to Cleveland where careers go to die and His his I dare but as far as college career when I'm. Yeah I just missed getting to see him play but. I've seen some tape on him. He looked pretty amazing mine number seventeen is a guy. You may have a little bit higher and probably have them low run by list just due to my bias, but I couldn't leave him off and that's Ron Dane. I mean, the guy let's he definitely had the most carries of anybody that I looked at when I was doing my research the guy carried the Rock Twelve over twelve hundred twenty times but he had over seventy one hundred yards and seventy one touchdown he won the nineteen ninety nine heisman had a decent. NFL. Career I couldn't leave Ron Dane off. I got up at nine A. Yeah. Like you said, seventy one, hundred, hundred, seventy, one touchdowns at phenomenal offensive line in front of them. You know the winning first came out with the giants he was going to be the sundered to barbers lightning but at Wisconsin, there's no, there's no putting down what he did You know the thing about about Wisconsin is I can't really think of a quarterback's is being I equal equal partner I mean it's not like he had a wider you know I don't like liner as a pro and maybe not as number of quarterback. Reggie. Bush. At least had a quarterback that could. Show some kind of a passing game Usually, what do you mean? You're not a believer Jim Sergey. No not not really maybe. Maybe maybe high school career but not his college career. So I. Mean I I don't get it all the great players that have played it Wisconsin and name me one like all big ten first team quarterback I. Don't I. Don't think they've ever had one I can't recall one. I can go back. If Teen Guy I can name you fifteen running backs that we all conference, but I'm not a quarterback. I can give you one, but it's a guy that played their early before I was even born is they run band they're telling in that's. The only reason I know that because I read a book and he was in it like when I was growing up and. I think he led Wisconsin to the Rose Bowl first time in years early in the sixties. Indianapolis actually. End Leave the time I. Don't know if you've heard of. Pollstar state needs. Beings. Yes and His team. At soldier field. And he upset the green. Bay Packers he was a quarterback for the college all stars. So. Read this that game that's only reason the sticks in my mind. So One, they have one guy in a hundred years. Yes. But it's still. Not that not that good a guy. So anyways, we know my was ready Bush. Okay. Who's your next one? what are we are? We are on sixteen. Correct. Correct. Sixteen is actually went with a guy that you had in your honorable mention list and that that was Derrick Henry Just I mean we look at him I mean the guy's just he looks like chase young I mean he's just. A physical specimen. Really when he was there. They almost every season he was there. They had at least two guys that they were kind of you know doing two guys in the backfield and I'm thinking when he was a freshman, it was mark Ingram was there and then he was sharing Kerry's sophomore and junior seasons as well. But I mean still put together over thirty eight, hundred yards and forty two touchdowns I mean the guy was just a monster and ended up going and winning the the heisman trophy. So I had to had to get their can remove boy on the list. I don't blame you a great player not like you said, I mean it. It's it's hard with some of these guys could they wait their turn in a share, the Backfield, and then all of a sudden they give their time in the in the really got really be watching him to catch them all on. So I'm going up. My next guy is going to be sixteen is Monte Ball Wisconsin. Fifty one yards, seventy seven towns, phenomenal. Wisconsin town I mean the worst thing about Wisconsin is kind of feel. You know I. It's almost like Okay Wisconsin back man had a lotta yards did this is that okay so Wisconsin did it but then he never seem to do anything more than that. It's not like they would national championships. Benji of Egypt's I on a consistent basis it's not it's just they've seen that the place where offensive linemen and running backs go to thrive and get contracts in the NFL but Monte ball quality running away while he was there and belongs on my list. I. Agree I mean I I you can't discredit what they do. I mean you can say, Oh, you know they. They don't win national championships whatever but they have won some big ten championships and when they play in the rose. Bowl you know they beat Oregon this past year I mean they always compete and they do they do what they do. You know they're going. To, run the football, you know they're gonNA hand it to Jonathan Taylor you know they're going to hand it to Monty Ball. You know they're going to Brian Calhoun. You know they're going to give it to Ron Dane whatever. But they say lineup we're GonNa do what we do. You do what you do if you can stop us and ninety nine percent of the time you can't. Number. There there they can run the damn football up there. my number fifteen is another USC guy I had to put. Marcus Allen on here. He won the heisman and eighty one like every other USC running back But you know forty, six, hundred, yards, forty, six touchdowns dude was a baller in college and in the pros and is a great guy definitely on the list for top twenty Rhinebeck. got. Marcus. A little higher. Is, up there on my list like I said, he set behind Charles White for two years you know it it was such A. Job, I was A. Young kid watching that in the seventies and it just seemed like it was tailback you and and Marcus Allen was phenomenal player thirty, nine her yards or thirty six sets them in two years. So I had making her yard one year almost need the two thousand mark too. So definitely agree with you. I got him a little bit further on up my next one is gonNA raise some eyebrows because he's so well part of he was a great player in college and he's proven out in the throes although though he's had a little controversy off the field which is affected and a little bit but he he's still eating quality running back now but the redskins and that's Adrian. Peterson. Yard touchdown. People might look at me and say it's a little bit low. But as you see, you'll seem to rest of my listed. It's it's not an insult because like I said, this one of the harder list you can come up with when you think about heisman trophy guys, they're probably relieving off I mean Mark Ingram, you brought him up I was sticking me night and I forgot to put him even in my honorable mentioned so. And Peterson's May number fifteen in I'll stick with him. Yeah he I've got him a little bit higher on mine but you know whatever you wherever you put in these guys, they're all great players. Adrian. Peterson is one of the best football players of all time. There's no doubt about it college football pro football. However, you WanNa cut it the guys what thirty, six, thirty, seven years old, and he's still running people over and if he had an offensive line in front of him, he'd be doing it even better. So Love Adrian Peterson, I've got him on my list to my number fourteen is another guy that probably should have been higher, but I just had to put them where I. Put Him and even though you played at San Diego State He ended up finishing second in the heisman trophy in nineteen, ninety two and when I was a kid which I was ninety two I loved watching this guy playing what Marshall. Faulk you know ran for over forty five, hundred yards fifty seven touchdowns. had had almost a thousand yards receiving to wasn't really a dual threat kind of guy and in college because they didn't have anybody can throw the ball but he was just unbelievable and had to put him at fourteen because I had to put them somewhere and when it was just unreal running back. Yeah. I haven't further on up I just remember him. I like you said, San Diego state the aspects I mean. Like you said, there wasn't a lot of stuff around him and. They still could stop them I mean phenomenal player ever see his senior year. There was this clip played I. Think the first three weeks you'd like to back to back to back role where I remember it was Randall Cunningham and watching him and it was like was just giving the hyper. Now he was that good talented that time but unfortunately, it didn't get the is. But. We saw the pros. He was well worth anybody's time in. The nominal player. You'll see where now I, think he's up in my top ten. So we'll get him on my nice little. Were there see my next move is going to be ended Smith. So go back to you who's your guest number thirteen? Thirteen is lt Damian Tomlinson Nine, hundred, ninety three carries. What's that? I got him there to. Do you owe. Well, then we can talk about him a little bit I mean unbelievable. He kinda put Tcu on the map nobody really knew I mean Gary Patterson's done very respect job and and TCU's been competing at a high level for the last ten or twelve years. But it all started with Thomas and he put that team on the map he made them a team. In Texas people had to account for I mean fifty, three, hundred, eighty, seven yards, six touchdowns. He finished fourth in the heisman. In two thousand. He was actually up for the house in a couple of times in the top ten but fourth was the highest guy. But I mean he was just unbelievable one of the greatest running backs of all time in college and the pro's. Say. He was Kinda get a lot of Walter Payton him. He could do everything could blocks catch passes he could run. He said he was a you know we haven't seen Diego with his best years. The worst than you could say about him is the fact that Sandiego you backup game and didn't win enough to where you really got to see him. Every time all the time unless you had to write, you know there they're red zone package or stuff like that. You see them highlight films that they would have been nicer to see him. Maybe get you know what a super bowl or Gatsby a national. The national promising desert, he got a lot a town hall of Famer without without question. He's got a lot of respect throughout football but my God when God made football Daniel Thomason. The mold. So He's right there and go my number twelve has been done away with Marcus Allen. So who's your number twelve? Twelve I have the guy you had in your on your honorable mention that Eddie George I just. I you know. What can you say about it? He George Man I mean just one of the hardest working guys. In the business i. mean he just grind it Wasn't much couldn't do from running back. He could block he could run outrun people I mean he was a huge guy but really fast for how big was and ended up finishing his career with thirty over thirty, seven, hundred yards and forty four touchdowns ran his way to the heisman in nineteen, ninety five and just one of the greatest. Ohio State Buckeyes of. All Time. All right. So you got Marcus and your next one we'd be eleven. I believe we're at eleven. Yeah Eleven. Yes sir. That was your eleven. That was my. Eddie George was my number twelve. Okay. Because we my Gun market already. Miles. Peterson. Okay. So he's done him. So I'll go with my eleven. Then comes from the same college they Adrian Peterson a little bit earlier flashy as they come baby the back of the Barry, Switzer era met Billy Sims billy sims was just a phenomenal running back at speed. To burn dramatic, feel thirty, five, hundred, yards, forty, five touchdowns in you know playing for that multiple that wish going attack of Oklahoma where he just share the ball a lot says a lot of billion I I just love watching him run when he was at Oklahoma for the sooners Even though it's hard to root for sooner various with. made it made it were my day. No doubt he was kind of a little tiny bit before my time but I've heard the stories and I've seen the tape, the guy, the guy was phenomenal and I'm not a huge. I was not a big huge Oklahoma fan back in the day. But I gotta give respect to him my number nine I think is where where are we? Right. Now. We're ten. Yeah. Ten is another guy from Texas. It seems like we're we're hitting the the old southwest conference a lot here, and that's because they just they did they had some of the best running backs and this guy was of the best running backs of all time in college and the pros, and that was Eric Dickerson from smu seven, hundred, ninety, Russia's forty, four, hundred yards forty seven touchdowns finished third in the heisman and eighty two was the number two draft pick coming out in the first round and. Just man that that team, the the Mustang's there I mean I know they were they were getting paid. Dickerson was driving around is Transam, and you know these guys were making more in college than they were in the pros but who cares I mean they were so fun to watch and he was just such an unbelievable running back. Everybody was like Oh his his upright styles never gonNA work and he's GonNa get hurt and he just kind of laughed at him and and just ran over or by anybody that tried to tackle him. and. You know he is my exact number ten. It's yourself and other thing is you got to remember his he had those yards and he had Craig James in the in the same backfield cranking out just many ours almost yes. I. Mean. You think about that I mean the Pony Express Back Heel Greg, James in an Air Dickerson I mean phenomenal running back running a phenomenal. Team unfortunately, like you said, it was Martin scandal eventually but I mean. What can you say I? Mean that's what happens in college. Sports Everybody gets a little pink somewhere along the way, but it doesn't take away from the kind of player he was. So Eric Dickerson is my number ten is well, my number nine was Ron Dane. So we'll skip right to your number nine. My number nine is Earl Campbell earl the Pearl seven, hundred, sixty, five carries forty, four, hundred yards forty touchdowns won the heisman trophy in seventy seven we've all seen the tape man, the Guys Jersey would get ripped off I mean dues would be hanging on him and earl would just keep on running unfortunately, he never seemed to go out of bounds and that's why you know he has so much trouble getting around these days but oh my gosh I he just was a powerhouse and You know when I think about Texas football I think about Earl Campbell and what he did when he was there. Before where definitely wasn't a little bit higher I list but are always an unstoppable for some. You know he was one of those guys that. You could. You could run you over your run past you. He was just a rare combination of the power and the speed, and like you said, I don't know how many shirts he went through a game but I'm sure it's a record of the SEC good and I'm sure there's there's absolutely the place right girl went home with just moved to that on. The tower roses death in a list. for my number eight. Unfortunately Right now, he's a controversial figure in American history You'll get mine for Mary's the. I really great USC. Back. For two years he would then the best running back in the history of the NFL of the NCAA A lot of people's time will tell you. Thirty. Two. OJ Simpson. when he was at USC when he's been in and actually putting John Mackay's USC on the map, he was like the Mike Garrett before, but they still were not the team they needed to be and then. McKay wanted to beat Notre Dame so bad he went out and got OJ Simpson, the top junior college runner from San Francisco in. Notre Dame would have a tough time beating. The Trojan. mctavish. O. J. Simpson, his mind number A. Yeah My number eight is staying right there in Texas and that's a ricky. Williams. I had to I had to include him. I just will never forget watching ricky, run a run ricky run I mean the dude was just unbelievable seventy, two touchdowns I mean. Broke out his freshman year that last game of the season ran for two hundred, forty something yards and just ever since then we've all remembered ricky, Williams and how great he was and you know I like we said misunderstood maybe didn't have the career that everybody thought. He should. But he had some great seasons even at the end there when he was playing for the Ravens, he's still could run the football and I will never forget watching ricky run the football and you know smoke a little grass I don't care I still like the guy and he wanted to high trophy and will always be remembered. you mean the one thing I do wish he I think he probably would even say he wished she could go back and change was the wedding dress dicap- quota. Bad. I can't get. My head now that you said that I really wish hadn't done that and I bet he wishes to. Rodman in the wedding dress. Okay. My next one Marshall Faulk with my number eight, we've done that we what was ricky or eight or seven. Ricky was eight for me. Array so We did OJ Marshall Faulk would be my next one. WHO's your number two would do. Would you number say? I'm on seven seven Tony Dorsett one of the greatest running backs in college football history hands down held the rushing record for years sixty, five, hundred, yards fifty, nine touchdowns. One, one, the seventy, six, heisman just unbelievable in the college ranks as well as for the cowboys put Pittsburgh football on the map and man I just love Tony Dorsett. Tony Little bit higher up on my list. I'll go I'll I'll give you my estimation him in a little while but as we are now we're up a number six I believe for you. Number six. Six. Tony was seven six. I've got doak Walker. smu Back in the. Di D D Walk I mean they named the you know the best football the best running back every year is called. The doak. Walker award in. That's that's for a reason I mean even as freshmen in this is back when freshman didn't get to play. But for some reason in nineteen forty, five he was able to play five games in one was able to get the. all southwest conference on honors and then played you know went to the army came back forty seven won the won the Maxwell Award and then forty eight. He won the heisman trophy I mean he was one of the first great running backs and I had to put him up there because that's that's what running backs strive to do is when the Doak Walker Award. Yeah. It's amazing when you see those guys interrupted your college career to. Serve our country and came back and still we're able to complete their careers and tyrod was in the backfield with him if I remember right and Smu a hell of the team back then I didn't using my my list. But like you said, if they named the award after you gotta be pretty good, it's like you know I think cy young with a pretty, damn good pitcher. Know Down to kick. My number six guy is you know I love this guy in the pros although I'm not I don't WanNa see overrated. But I. He he surpassed the guy a lot of credit for in the NBA actually held the rushing title Y'all rushing title for. Awhile. And he was phenomenal flashy back and. Amazing speed amazing movie opens the Barry Sanders You know that one year ran for almost three thousand yards for two touchdowns for Oklahoma state. I mean speaks volumes of the type of player he was He you know the thing about Barry Sanders was I mean I I I just I just I respect them I loved watching them play but. I. Always thought there was a bit of a better back to him. So changing my. View of him in the pros but as far as a college back, he's definitely in my top just a little bit outside the top five. Well. Yeah, and if you remember, he played behind Thurman Thomas and split carries with him and so just to think about what he didn't college having to having to sit behind Thurman and share carries with them there for a couple of years it's unbelievable and You can't really talk about You know who the best running back all time is without mentioning my number five and that's Jim Brown I mean I know I still think he's the greatest one of the greatest football players of all time and you know even though he was playing to sports at Syracuse he was an All American in nineteen, fifty, six, he ran for over nine hundred and eighty six yards in games He like you said got snubbed the heisman trophy when Paul Horneck one even though. The. Irish were had a losing rock record, but you know had that one game against colgate where he ran for one hundred and ninety seven yards and six touchdowns and lots of people don't remember. But Jim Brown was also the kicker for Syracuse and made seven extra points to score total of forty three points by himself in that game. So you can't can't talk about the greatest running backs in college without putting on the Jim. Brown there. Yeah I know I. Haven't seen them play but I mean, definitely he definitely I mean it'd be number one. You could be number one I mean to remember threes, and before he's definitely the best players ever might number five guy. Hey Bo knows. Bo Jackson Auburn forty three hundred yards forty three touchdowns. The legend of go. Oh, there's no bigger legend in the south. Didn't Bo Jackson and maybe bigger sports legend in. America. I'd say maybe Mohammed Ali and Michael Jordan. When you talk about American athletes Jim Thorpe I. mean he is mentioned in everybody's argument as the greatest athlete of all time in. American. History and bows just. What a player is it what if that gift didn't get injured in that game against Cincinnati who might have been in the hall of fame and both Canton and? Down I mean he had. He was he was probably the best players ever played those two sports at the same time. So my man was. Yeah. He was Derrick Henry before Derrick Henry, I mean just a big huge man but was also the fastest guy in the field a lot of times. So it was pretty amazing and you know I I loved watching Bo play and I actually have him as my number three number four is Barry Sanders and we already talked about him but I had to put him in my top five as well. So four as Berry. Sanders and then my number three is Bo Jackson so. Might number four, zero Campbell mind number three. Is That guy out of Georgia Herschel Walker. fifty, two, hundred, yard, forty, nine touchdowns His Freshman Sophomore year when he came when he turned the NCAA on its on its year its collective year, there was talk when he when he was a freshman of winning per heisman and. The first time. I ever saw him was a famous game against Florida where with the big passed from duck blue to Lindy Scott to win it But Herschel was the man who really put him on his back and helped them Vince Dooley get his national championship at Jordan Herschel Walker Maybe throw career didn't turn out to be the greatest thing in the world drive best known for being the centerpiece of that trade that with the Dallas cowboys back in a mess and maybe that's a good enough reason not to like. But I liked him Georgia and also like yeah. Is One of my favorite Benjamin, Franklin but blue, what's the better college football in that? You can't beat it. It's like a sore one. You cannot beat it and I actually had Herschel Walker as my number two also just because of the guy could still play. He's what like fifty six years old and he's still does five hundred push ups and five hundred sit ups a day. I mean the guy is just an absolute beast and you know they. It was like a it was like was contemplating sec per year The guy The guy knew everybody knew getting the ball, but he just was so strong and so fast and so powerful they they couldn't stop him. So I had to have Herschel Walker by number two also. Okay. My number two is GonNa make you proud and you're gonNA eat prob your number one He I mean the only two time heisman trophy winner. Archie. Griffin. phenomenal player to type is a trophy where it just seems. Crazy to be able to say that you've dominated football for two straight years and I. You know the young player are not young player as a younger. Saying back then so I know the players he was going up against and the Michigan teams and the dude teams and you know th the winning against USC I mean. The guys are playing for USC. You're there were no were no slouches either and he was dominating heisman trophy balloting and so I go with Archie Griffin might number two guy. Yeah no great pick and that is number one I made and I and obviously I'm biased. But let's be honest. There's been a lot of great guys. That have played college football and as me and you love college football. We'd love all these great players I love going through these lists and getting to hear your opinions and my opinions about these guys and just getting back to go get into, go back and watch the film and look at the stats and just sift through 'em is spun is can be for me but the thing that really jumped out for me, I mean to heisman trophies all the games that he won all the national championship he won for woody, Hayes and all of that. The one thing that really jumped out for me at at as far as Archie Griffin is the consistency, let's talk about thirty one straight games thirty one in case you folks who are out there and radio land can't hear me thirty one straight games with one hundred yards. Nobody else has ever come close to doing that, and that just shows the type of runner he was, and this was before you know the Buckeye nation started throwing the football a whole lot. They knew they were running the ball but this guy still ran for over a hundred yards and hit the century Mark Thirty one times and I had to had to put him as number one because he just. You know pro career didn't work out just exactly how maybe a lot of Buckeye fans would hope for but. Definitely one of the greatest college football players of all time in thirty one games where he ran for a hundred yards in a row. Guy, my number one you mentioned down on your list already I got to see his whole for years it it. Tony Dorsett four years over a thousand yards When he showed up on the campus pit became a national power they didn't. Yeah. I, mean, I think Billy Daniels the name of his quarterback. Thing that cabinet on May have been there for a little bit of it I mean he didn't have a lot of talent around him or say and the kid came out. Any like they used to joke used to be whenever he played at Notre Dame during for years, they wouldn't cut the grass to try and slow him down I mean. Just. Like that to direct in hosted, slowing him down because he was just so fast there was just nobody in in in any great pro-career to I mean he luckily wanted to a great team I mean he luckily got drafted by the Dallas Cowboys and one super bowl with them there, and of course, was a perennial thousand yard rusher with them but td I mean the great in the initials td that. Better than running backs Oh. My God I mean but you know the worst thing in putting together this list. I still go on and on I mean I'm proud of the list I put begin. Together. But I mean, there are there are teams we didn't I I mean I I couldn't come up with a couldn't find room for a Penn State Back Michigan back. Lay back. Notre Dame back I. Mean. There's so many great runners out there. But they're just the top twenty is is is it's if there's you've just gotta put those guys in there I'm proud of both are picks I think we we we covered it all I think so far we've been we've been hitting the mark with our fix here. So proud about that now we got to. Go. Ahead. And now we got we got some great names on here, but there's you know there's so many unbelievable running backs out there. There's dudes that we didn't even talk about that. That could be on this list I mean Anthony Thomas at Indiana I mean Indiana football not a a big history that guy won the Maxwell Award and was one of the greatest players in college football for several years and and he played at Indiana. So I mean there's guys that we didn't even mention out there but but what fun to get to go back and go through these great runners. I just saw I just got a text from Alex home it'll be changing and. Becoming on a few minutes. So we'll finish up our NCAA portion of this and bring him on for the NFL portion like store touch an top one, hundred list when he gets here. To. See Beginning score days Let's see. WE GOT NEW ORLEANS SIXTY SIXTY OVER UTAH. the Yankees. Baltimore's within a run running the Yankees five four. Oh. Oh. It's only the spending now. You. Remember that senator to nothing Boston's over the mets three to thank you mets for ruining my name. In. Kansas City Detroit are tied at two and plant leaves Tampa Bay to nothing. So that's the scoreboard so far as the NBA comes upon US along with Baseball, and looking forward to I'm I'm definitely looking forward to hockey we get as I said, I bought my package. So I, gotta see workings are going to be interesting to watch Saturday and Sunday and another reason I really look forward to I. Really WanNa see ice skating and people having to wear more than shorts and a tee shirt because I'm getting kind of sick heatwave is driving me crazy up there I'm I'm a North Eastern guy and The hotter to summer. More mid Wyoming I usually get here here that would are fans out there. So you helped you to the weather. Yeah come on down to Tennessee for a little while buddy we haven't gone below eighty seven since I can remember and you know it's eighty seven going on about one hundred forty degrees Celsius with the humidity down here and you know one of the reasons I love college football is that's when the fall bigly ends and I can start to read outside once. Again, so yeah, I'm with you I. I I just watching people skate around the ice is going to be pretty cool and I I did get we. We talked on Tuesday a little bit about my reds and they they came out last night and sunny grey pitched another gym. I mean the guy had ten strikeouts and seven innings was hitting ninety four. Ninety five and was throwing the ball exactly where he wanted to. So really nice to see the guy that me and it's talked about a little bit Nikki send zeal came up came back from having some symptoms Kobe didn't he tested negative so got to play last night and had two hits had a home run and also had a double. And drove in another run. So he played pretty good and casinos Got It. Got Another grant had a grand slam. So starting to hit the ball down in Cincinnati and with a maybe a true ace and Sunny Gray I've been just blown away by how he's been pitching in his first two starts and starting off to know is a real good sign from reds. Is, so funny when you think about sunny great how he failed with the Yankees you know you would think you know pressure would be off of Mitchell would that kind of a lineup behind you knowing mean for most of the last twenty years at least with the Yankees going back to the mid nine I mean not to put down or put on the Yankee pitchers but I mean any pet at one almost three hundred or two hundred games with a plus for five Vr, a I mean and the Yankees. Have had a line of submitted ninety that could put five or six runs up. So to see this guy grey struggling like he did in the Bronx and now finding himself. In Cincinnati where you have to pay as well. I, it just boggles my mind. is so covered too. When you think about a hitter default part related there you know. Let's. Tenders Bar hitter of ballpark. You to be so much more relaxed in the Bronx in in so much more under pressure in Cincinnati but is the exact opposite I guess maybe he's just not built to pitch in the bright lights of Broadway or appended race and I'm going to bring Alex right now he's He's chiming at the bit in the bullpen. So we'll bring him in for to be part of our closing segment as we get to talk back about NFL. Allegations. My brother. I Miss I. Miss You like no other brother Yeah. No we actually. Like to raise were brick were brand new with kids from West. Haven to Stanford we we mix it up with an ECLECTIC melting pot of players and yet we just one twelve, three against the established. Established Newark New York Yankees like we just rolled up on people. I'm so happy my my team kids were are. They worked on. It was awesome. Well, that's what makes. It doesn't make coaching fun when you see a workout on the field for you, that's great did. Someone. Young Joe in it and so much and note and You got always on point as always no no. Big shocker. Yes. Sonny. Gray man. He was not built for the Bronx. Some people don't like the spotlight. Some people don't WanNa play them as. Some people don't want to be a Yankee, thirty days. He's a very county guy he's built. For kind of a soft like not I don't recall soft but kind of a a different you know mid West five starting grades one of the top ten pitches the world. So. Yeah. I agree. got that. You know what I'm saying you know you know. I'm not gonNA miss a dirty name. Some people just aren't built to the Bronx. Hey Man, it's all about the environment here men and it's all about it's all about the mental aspect of it a lot when you're pitching but the guy's got the stuff. If you watch the game last night, I was throwing ninety four, ninety, five miles an hour exactly where he wanted to his fastball was moving his breaking ball was down around eighty, four, eighty, five. So He's dropping at ten miles an hour in breaking ball looked exactly like the fastball. So when it comes out of his hand these all these. All these cubs batters were thinking. It's a fastball and they're swinging as fast as they can the ball's not even there yet because he was mixing it up so well. So you know didn't do the greatest in New York but let's not take away from the kind of this guy has he can. He can throw Brady he's got multiple pitches. He's really good talent, and if he can keep this going the reds have data shot. You know. It doesn't make you better or someone worse a better than near you or Joe or anyone receiver anyone you know he he feels he does at home in the Mid West and never. A couple. Begs to the question is you know? Is it the Yankee fans? Is the way of doing things is you know? House to house their new. If he has a couple bad outings there to. Worry, about fans now. But when the New York press's, that's the problem I mean it's really weird that that you know you would maybe to concentrate more maybe the factory relax too much with the Yankees but it's funny and I I just I hate to to buy into the New York myth of you know the pressure of New York tearing up players because. The the pressure just to get to the major leagues and and to compete. So I. Just I decided very weird doing and when you see this contract, the guy was a star out in Oakland. Bad in the Bronx. Now, he's GonNa Start. Again since the oranges anatomy and in China makes no sense to me and it would it wouldn't hurt me to if the mets don't make it all the way through to see Sonny. Gray for a couple of shutouts and busted Yankee bubbles that would that wouldn't be bad for me I know you guys. I would take. That's a that's a great point. Show you know You, dial it back. You brought me back to reality I'm always the awesome and maybe it's not him. Maybe it's not the best place for him. Now you're right it's not these guys for royal. It's not their first high school. Dan. They've been to the show before you know you're right. He starts by New York. I but I I still I honestly honestly I'll bet she chuckle two minutes. I honestly think that guy is built for somewhere not New York so I really. That certain certain players are not built for New York. I duNNo. took. The change of scenery change of scenery you can really help guys sometimes and I think you know I think it brought him down back down to Earth a little bit just struggling a little bit in New York and it just made him focus that much more and I could tell on opening day that he wanted to prove that he was that picture that was out in Oakland Strike and people out left and right and that's always done so far since he's been thrown on the mound for the reds, he's just been striking people out and just being almost dominate out there for the what else. They started me what what money Greens contract is. He is he on lock for like three years is a one year deal. I'd have to look on that I. Think I think. It's more than one. I think they locked him up for at least three or four. Okay Before we were where we're GONNA. Look at Alex before we again because I don't know if you missed like part of the game of the show when I saw I, WanNa see anyone who cover anything before we get into. WE'RE GONNA take a quick. At the NFL top one, hundred list of top twenty players as voted by their peers just lost the last hour. We're GONNA. Do that get our opinions on that? Is there anything else you wanted to cover before we get into that? No then dies I'm the party and love like everyone. So let's take on. All right wouldn't We'll do it. Let's start from number one The MVP. So it's hard to go against him Lamar Jackson number one as voted by his. Not Surprising to me. was going to be surprising comes after that. What do you guys think about? Lamar Jackson, do you think he has the game to keep this up at this level or the flash in the PAN? An. Rg Three. Without injury I'm saying, but you think Lamar Jackson got the the game to keep getting giving some of the top of this list. Yeah I mean. The one knock on Mars you know people some people think he can't throw the football, but that's that's not true Lamar Jackson could throw the football and college and he can throw the football in the pros. The one thing that I. Kinda worried about with him was how can he read defenses Can You? Can? You can you? Go off that I second read and find the third guy that was the other thing that I worried about with Lamar. But let's be honest. Last year he was the best player on the football field for the entire sixteen games. Let the Ravens a fourteen and two record I know they struggled a little bit against the titans but the titans have a good defense and they had a really good game plan but. He's proven that he can run the ball he can run the offense he can hit the open receiver and he's just going to get better as he goes on I mean the guy's gotta live arm he can. He can throw the ball with the rest of them and if they can keep you know running running an offense that is built around his strength. I don't see any reason why he can't keep doing it. Yeah I totally I thought it was made You know you never WANNA be like. Go over that time when third and one we saw what happened Cam we saw. Him. I. Know. Eagles Eagles Lord No. You can't put up you get hurt Lamar smart and like. Athletes that. He's not just a scramble. I Joe. Player I would say he and Patrick the future I mean, that's what I got. I, I totally agree with you bows Lynette an ad issue but I mean Pat Mahomes, they got rated as number four. By his peers. Would you really? Kinda shocked me because the number two guy that got his Russell Wilson never go do anything at Russell Wilson Total respect for the guy he's shown Rum's decade that he's one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL he's got a gun he knows how to play the game he no one run. Veteran Russell Wilson little surprise it. He number two ahead of PAT. Mahomes. And that MOMS is behind him in Erin Darnold Donald So. I don't know. How you look at those three players why is happened homes? Behind those two I would put in great behind Lamar Jackson I don't know about you guys. Let me. Let me grumpy out here. We'll hear man. I I'll be from you know kids, cities, all the people that drum. Yeah I. Don't that does not make sense to me. My home is not only humble guy he's the leader. I don't know where you go if you did not get injured. He could he could be. The Best quarterback in twenty years now I don't know. No I I think he's the best he proved. He's the best player in football I mean the he led the I mean, don't get me wrong. Steve's Magnolia. Figure things out. He's a really good defensive coordinator and he made that city defense at least respectable going down the stretch I mean you don't win the Super Bowl unless you can at least stop somebody. So their defense got better but Patrick Mahomes, the reason that the chiefs you know that they want they've got a good team that got Andy Reid is the coach he's got some weapons. With tyreek Hill and Sammy Watkins and the Travis Kelsey and the boys. But let's be honest if you go back and watch those games they've won because Pat Mahomes his creativity is playmaking ability his arms, his legs he's he's the he's the total package. He's the best player in the NFL in my opinion I think Lamar Jackson had an unbelievable season. He's really good I think like I said I think he can keep doing it but pat mahomes is the real deal and he's the number one player in the NFL in anybody's list or should be. And one of the, neither of your brought would be brought up. He did most of last year on one leg. Between me and. The toughness he showed I mean that kneecap injury would have kept mostly people out six weeks and he would he we? Yes Joe Joe just to build on your point just sheer fortitude like a level of of no fear. Let's go. He was rising and rapid regular at around pain and what the next day throwing spirals I mean that guy is so tough. Strong. Guy In a player character. That's mom did. He dislocated his KNEECAP and You know he was available two weeks later I mean they they kept him out I. Think Three Games at least But he was there and stayed on the sidelines. You know two weeks later and just the fact that he did that shows that he wants to play in that he loves the game and and with his kind of talent the the sky is the limit for that guy. All right. Number five they got Michael Thomas and nobody would go against him as a wide receiver. But, The number five, the little fly from Waco. Thomas here with is there somebody else you'd expect to see a higher than him? It'll high for wide receiver Michael Thomas. May Go for Yeah no I mean he's a Buckeye. So I, I love him. But I mean wide receiver as far as wide receivers goes I think he is the best wide receiver in the game I mean setting records kidding catching passes I mean didn't matter who was back there. Is Teddy Bridgewater. It didn't matter as long as they threw the ball out somewhere near where Michael Thomas is. He got it done. I think he's a top five player in the NFL he's definitely paid like he is the only thing you could maybe you know make an argument that maybe drew brees or somebody like that could could be up ahead of and drew brees is back down there twelve. So I think I think he's a top five player and I think right behind him you know Christian McCaffrey and I think Michael Thomas and Christian McCaffrey those are definitely two guys that could be MVP's in this league and have the talent to do it. Real quick I mean my coupons. You know sexy is one way model all all the guy does show up on Sundays and catch thirteen balls run hundred, fifty yards the guy that's not drop I mean what does the elastic on and he doesn't drop a cat guys. So officiant, he's quietly incredible player, but I love that. McCaffrey agree with six? That's a good thing. But here's another one I've found controversial number seven because there's two guys I could see that are as equals and maybe better and that's George Kittles. As number seven, I mean, at Travis Chelsea. I would have put over him. I know that Alex is rated jumping 'cause boy urges them there. A little you guys attacked what do you agree with Kittles or Joe Kills in bits of at seven? Go for from about the no. I mean Georgia, great tight end and You know he may be the most complete tight end because he really is great blocker and I, like his game but I think that seven is pretty Dang high especially for Thai dead. How can you? WE'VE DERRICK HENRY DOWN AT number ten and put Georgia tiddle at seven. I mean you take George kiddle out of the lineup for the forty niners and yeah, you're going to see it is the run game going to be affected maybe is their passing. Game GonNa hurt a little bit. Yup. But if you take Derrick Henry off of that titans team, you're looking at, you know six and twelve team or a six and ten teen I mean Derrick Henry is the reason that the titans made it as far as they did Derrick Henry is the reason that the titans beat the Patriots beat the Baltimore, Ravens in Baltimore beat new. England in New England and then had a two touchdown lead on the super bowl chance in Kansas City he's. He's one of the best players in the NFL it's not. In the NFL I just think you gotta put their Ken re somewhere near the top five if not in the top five I just it right now as far as last season goes if you look at it, there Kendrick dominated even when everybody knew he was getting the ball. Brilliant I mean to build on that I mean that's a great way to look at the other day styles back looks to Wasser so like. If you take him out of office, the titans baby or her six win. Five Win No kill out. Matters are GonNa be the niners they'd beat up on assault teams out west the most of the big. So. Derrick Henry would be much more. Than, a tourist I kid overall I know Joe you you poke me I. Love You right back. Yeah I'm I'm I'm an urge Guy Decker block, it's not The world he doesn't he's not a complete tie that he he's he's he's a you know a bigger wide receiver pretty much. They hired him uncertain fourth without. He's not he's not mind walking of it. Kindle I. The best in the world is trying to tell I mean that's what I mean. Hey I'm the. I agree with you there. The next to guys wearing Travis Kelsey he what eighteen on this list I mean Y- think about things he did last year he won some games. All I'm self and You know the reason they came back and beat the Texan if you go back and watch that game when the Texans were up what twenty four To nothing Travis Kelsey was the reason that they were able to get know with with obviously Patrick Mahomes but I mean Travis Kelsey was just dominating. He's a problem for any safety to cover. He's a problem for any corner to cover and to not Travis Kelsey his do I think is ridiculous. The guy is just he's an unbelievable football player he's A. And Real quick conclusion on Travis. That guy's a Leader you know he he passes homes, wives hang out like they're like best buds. So. Crucial I mean that I Saw You know if If I, better circle or. The traffic comes about implant. Well especially, when you look at it kills in Hopkins Than Gilmore. I. Think. All of them have been dropped down I mean and then Audrey ahead of Derrick Henry I. I I'm not quite sure how nick feels about their can read kind of like waiver little. FEEL THEY I'm not afraid to admit it. I was talking talked and yell that I love Derrick Henry and if you go back and you watch the tape. Tennessee titans down the stretch and you come back and you tell me that Derrick Henry wasn't the damn reason that they won all those games. Then I'll ask you to explain why. I think about it. If you look at him the second half of the year, you could really. If you could have been the MVP two week I mean I mean. Lamar Jackson get to such a big lead earlier especially with that six touchdown game he had that he had to grow the Kinda ran away and hid, but there cannery the MVP for probably five on. So yeah I definitely agree with you there you know Julio. Jones. Couldn't do a whole lot when he was standing on the sidelines watching Derrick Henry run teammates over and step on there. As he was marching. For his two hundred plus yard and most touchdowns I mean, let's be honest you. You can't even get on the field when Derrick Henry toting the rock though. Basketball soccer off your crop. They seem more sticky all the. Henry was dominating people use he not love your team gets the ball there was a man boys. A top player come work outside. Yeah I mean. The definitely sure I mean I don't see these these picks this with either where we're list just caught my eye because I mean number eleven believe accounts no one ever take anything away from but number eleven in Germany's number twelve. Wagner number thirteen brady number fourteen Aaron Rodgers who Aaron Rodgers had a good year last year ball. He's been kind of shaky and then you put Nikko said Seventeen and Travis Kelsey and eighteen. I mean, it just makes. Sense that it takes away the liberty of this this list, those two both and Kelsey should definitely be tough tin really five pushed the other guys back down. Yeah. Tell seen I mean I like Chandler Jones out in Arizona but let's be honest they want five games and Travis Kelsey won the Super Bowl. So who is more important in this league I mean I, and also if you look at Cardio Mac I think Khalil Mack is more of a game changer than Chandler. Jones is I mean I don't I. Don't think the defense is sit up at or that offense to sit up at night worrying about Chandler Jones the way they do know Khalil Mack I mean Khalil Mack is unblocked. Right. Yeah, I mean I. Drove Joe Gimme a hot second on Air Rogers wake me up to Janika PAT to. Legal. Yeah, I, know whenever called color me whatever amodio saying no I've never weeded up at night. Worried in woke up nervous about Aaron Rodgers he never just not perform plus I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Eddie always says. Not Hey hey it's not my fault. You kind of. Grin and look I. I'm not a Airbrush Fan. I'm not an Enron stamp. And You GotTa give them the reason he's on his downside. He's under downsize career I mean but. You know go back for years ago three years ago he was a guy. He didn't want to have the ball with under three minutes left in the game because I've seen him break a lot of arts winning when you packed any doesn't have it anymore. mean. He say if you're going to look at this list, I mean the thing is we're coming down to the end of the show and I want to go over Lamar Jackson. Pat Mahomes Joey Bosa Derrick Henry I would've gone and then Russell Wilson that would have been my top five. If I was speaker with these guys got they're all younger players often do their new wave of the NFL and then like you said, maybe bring Khalil Mack into like the six slot tells people I mean I I just I look at this list and it's it's kind of like I some of it is kind of a joke I mean Michael, Thomas Top ten McCaffrey blooms top ten maybe not half can so much anymore I don't know about Stefan, Gilmore the top ten. No. Way of agreed defensive back but I mean he. You know Dionne. No I don't I. Don't think he's dirty shutdown corner. He's not a shutdown corner I? mean. He's a good cover corner but let's be honest. He looks a lot better in that in that bill belichick defense than he did playing for the bills and let's talk about Malcolm Butler I mean Greg I was he was a shutdown corner for the Patriots in that Bill Belichick defense and then you take him in, throw them on the titans and it does not look the same so. I I'm I like Stefan Gilmore. But I'm not I'm not one hundred percents sold that he's a top ten player. Where but Joe, there's no ways belongs in that on top ten. Privilege and honor there's no way that need. I'm sorry I'll take on the eagles tomorrow trust me I'll driving the airport. But I'll pick them up but like no, there's no way up cat come on. But that's where these lists you know when you. Become popularity contests I remember for years you get the MLB list and again believe me everybody knows how much I don't like the Yankees. But you have people rating Derek Jeter as the most overrated player in baseball and. Maybe say into a point that he was. I dare cheer was on a different team is this the we might not have been the star of the magnitude he was in New York. City. Because was the president for three thousand hits and everything else he did speaks for itself. So I mean a lot of these lists it's speaks against about you know professional jealousy and stuff I don't know how you feel about it but those. The. ME A lot of. Guys. You know what you know obviously I I I. I. I wake up and go to bed I live in came ask but no you you can love. And a Lotta people or things. And then I grew up and I respected. People. So Jesus someone who respects. I'M NOT GONNA I'm not, GONNA WAKE UP, in jeered jersey, but I respect. You jeeter top. To. Put. Your typical either. Do you think a top ten? I'm sorry. Three four south long time or. Overall. I mean, let's be honest the game dude I mean he had the pressure on him from day one and he loved it thrives on it. He's the opposite of Sunny. Gray you wanted to play in New York he loved playing in New York, and you know let's be honest when when it came down to it if there was a runner on and the Yankees were now you know tied. He. Would get hit and it just shows. You know like that lasts a bad hitting that home run I mean maybe the Guy Group that I. Don't know but you can't take your jeeter. Did He He had an amazing career might not be the greatest shortstop of all time but he got he did what he had to do out on the field fielding ground balls and he got the big hits when he needed to you know I'm no. Fan Overall but he did he did get it done. He's not great at is being an owner. James Dole's Jim Sullivan up. He's not authorized. All right we're coming up to the end of the game of the show. Tonight we're going into the weekend when I'm GonNa, give you Alex since you were here. Let me give you the last word we got about a minute gives a last word on what bothering you would you like it about sports and and then we'll say our goodbyes and editor weekend. Give us your your impression what you're worried about the weekend when you're looking forward to go ahead out. You know the best thing is optimistic I'm so happy you know you dress up with my bs I jumped in after big game no like you know the state of affairs is never get better. So you know. We're all going on. Right, now, so I want people I I don't know big fall out I. Want that. You know the big game. Show you know that's my little crush. I I'm just so hungry I'm so happy. That people are getting out there and perform and that's What do you got? Yeah no doubt I want to won't sports to continue I. Think it's good for this country all the stuff that's going on the bad things that have happened this year if we can have a couple of successful professional sports seasons and give people something that they can watch at night and relax and enjoy I think it can only do good things for everybody. I Ray. We're going to end it. There people everybody you tune in tonight. Louis who called in we had a great time. We got our we got through our top twenty running back tonight we did a lot of football a lot of baseball I'm looking forward to the hockey this weekend alone baseball and basketball you guy said so. Bag and is the Connecticut Sports Guys Joe Ryan Alex Azar and Nate Smith with you. All good happy weekend. We'll be back on Tuesday night at seven o'clock hey doug. Easy Bellas Talk to you over the weekend. Keep it keep it Gergen. Love Go. been. Listening to the Connecticut sports guys on blog talk radio live every Tuesday and Thursday night at seven PM. 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"The Paul finebaum show podcast has been brought to you by the Capital, One sabre card earned four percent cash back on dining and entertainment, two percent of grocery stores, and one percent on all other purchases. Now when you go out you cash in what's in your wallet terms apply. But pride passion, then patterns re of college football leaves here. This is the Paul finebaum show, our to podcast. We welcome you back. We are in the second hour and the weather here is okay. But whether out in Omaha is a little bit dicey at the moment. Auburn and Louisville playing in an elimination game four to one Louisville. They went to town on a couple of errors by Auburn seems like that has been haunting Auburn throughout this college World Series. No idea when this game is going to reconvene, but we'll certainly which, you know, and we welcome all of you who are watching. We're watching it, too. But we're doing the show as well. Let's get back to the calls at eight five five two four two seven two eight five coaches in Morristown. Tennessee coach, welcome to the show. Hey, paul. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you very much. Hey, I don't know if you remember back during Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, there was a general by name Russel Honore who catalyze. Yeah. He was. He was in charge of the relief effort and every time I hear Harry from New Orleans call. I'm just waiting for Harry to into sentence with over. He was tough guy. I remember him. Well. When you do interviews and so forth. He always end the sense with or. It's now time for you to talk. So it was funny when I hear Harry's phone calls, but hey, I wanted to call just ahead had chance to call in. And thank you for last week's tribute to Pat summitt that was one of my most enjoyable shows, and it kinda took a took on legs of its own, as you know with, with the gentleman from from Nashville with his kidney issue. But I heard you talk about starting salary's not sure people understand that when Pat took the job she was making two hundred fifty dollars a month. She kinda snuck into that their first year, and she was doing everything driving a van washing uniforms. But that was back when that was back in seventy four. I think when I think the entire budget for women's athletics, for six sports was about five or six thousand dollars to so it's funny how far we've come, you know, coach, I remember, I've told the story, I think, in the in the aftermath of her passing. But. Show. You the differ I was sports editor of the school paper, and we got the word on the wire that Tennessee had been chosen number one in the country that we and I walked over to her office in her office was no bigger than a broom closet. I kid you not. And I'm not gonna door and I thought I was taking my life in my hands because she likes screamed. What and? I mean you didn't you just literally you walked in there was no receptionist and she looked at me. And I said. I was I was shaking I said coach, I think got some good news here and then she smiled, and I told her what it wasn't as she gave me a few comments. But, but I, I mean there wasn't room in that her office for more than a desk in a basketball. Great story at hope you didn't trip over the Mont book getting in there. But yeah, I thought that I thought show last week was great. And I really appreciate you doing that. I know having coach Fulmer and Kelly onto was was a was was big also for the day, and I enjoyed listening to them, too, but keep up the good work. Enjoy the show coach. Thank you very much. Always implies you're and talk to you. And it was it really a great day paying tribute to coach some, let's continue with phone calls. And Ed is in South Carolina how ad. Hey, we're doing. Great. Thank you. It's a hot day down here, Matt. So he mentioned, the K would laugh at this not walk. Call bell. But I've got all kinds of tapes to see these just calling games. He was absolutely based no doubt about it here. I again, I don't know what it was about him. It was just a rich voice. It was it was. It was deep. It was resident it was his way he described things and I think that's what separates broadcasters. Because back then there, you know, there wasn't a lot of television and he would say, okay, now the cats, you know, quiet and blue and white moving from right to left, and they're imagining, there's always wondered when they did that did it really matter what side of the arena, they were on. You could see the game though. See it, you sit there and say, well, he was great. You really wanna call it, but you mentioned yesterday about the US open Goth coverage and stuff, and how bad it was. And you're right. It was terrible. And you're right. And they NASA CBS does the best job, though, no doubt about that. However. How do you feel about this? Moment, girl that doesn't interviews which made athlete, nothing. Don't see BS the man or not. I heard you talking about I. I don't find those interviews. Tell me anything I didn't already know. I know this is ABC script questions. And the guardrail I had a good rather. They had to ridiculed rail this man, I say, that's a waste of waste of my theory. I on those, those interviews. And I know how difficult they are because friends who do that. But just get to the question. I don't really want. It doesn't matter who you are. The answer is always going to be the same just finding way to get a question in, in the fewest possible words. Right, exactly. Exactly, it just topics total waste of. I don't know. I mean that's wrong entity though. I mean, you know, see the good look at no doubt about that. They, you know what I'm I don't know. I don't want to get into that because I, I want somebody to elicit information. I don't care which like I. And my my criticism of most of most. On the field. Reporters, not all, but most is they take too long dances question. Right. Yeah. And I was gonna say stock at tiger and say he won into rough on this how the what'd you do there, hit it? I I'm not really I, I was I was one morning. I was I was with Tom Rinaldi. We were it was it was the first year before the network started. I was a travel with game day. And I just asked him on day because he does golf, if you know, I, I said, how do you come up with these questions because he said, I'm, I'm just trying to elicit an emotion because he's interviewed tiger. A million times. You have to find a way to ask a question that doesn't leave you with a yes or no answer. And the best way to do it is, it's very simple. Tiger you just won the masters, describe your feeling. I mean you can't say great you almost, so and he's as good as I've ever heard doing that. Tries to he tries to capture a mood, and I don't even know her name, by the way, the way that you're talking about and FOX FOX out a different person year. But I just never get anything out of those interviews. I don't either. It's, it's just it's just it's just a waste time. So I'm sorry. If you're gonna ask the ask you, you know, everybody, you know, the Maria or asked a good question to save a couple of months ago and nearly got her head and into or so. We'll true. But hey, but, but that was worth, it all say, at least you got a reaction. You know, the, the idea is to get a reaction. You you're one hundred percent. Hey, thank you very much, really good stuff. We can spend all day on on that. Thank you for the call. Jordan is in Mississippi. You're on the air. Go right ahead. Hey, Bill other. All know lately, the cause World Series been going on. What do you think about Mississippi State? You think they might win it all? Yeah. I really think the winner of the college World Series will come from either Mississippi State or Vanderbilt, I think those are the those to me look like the teams to be. I what about who you think? When loses bracket, Paul? Well I mean right now. So we're we're looking at we're watching Auburn trailing. So Auburn Auburn loser. They're gone then that would put Louisville against the loser of what the game tonight. I'm trying to. Yeah. So. I don't know. I, I still think to me, there's still like Vanderbilt in Mississippi State or the best teams. What about that game? Whoa. All through that man out at first, that was cool. No all auburn's had some of the worst of possible luck in this college World Series. Gary is in Louisiana HOA. Gary go right ahead. Oh, hey, Paul. How's it going? Gary. It's going great. Thank you. Very much. Good. Hey, listen. I'm a big time Texas Longhorn fan. And I know you love the SEC, and that's great because they are super conference LSU in Texas play October seventh. I believe and I think the winner of that game has a real good chance of making the playoffs. What do you think? Yeah. I mean you're talking about LSU at Texas. I game is September seventh by the way. Oh so timbers excuse me. Yeah. No, that's a. That's a huge game major. Yeah. I agree with you. I don't think the loser is dead. But I think the winner is in superb shape, especially. If you wins that game, I think they have a game to burn quite frankly that because that would be such a big win. LSU has two top ten games on the road against against Alabama and Texas. But listen. I think with Texas. It's just another chance for them to to get back. Geez. Back, by the way. I think they're pretty close. I'm a huge. Tom Herman fan. Do I think he's one of the smartest coaches in the country? And I think they're really close. And I can't Sam Ellen is probably real close to be in the Heisman Trophy guy. Yeah. I think he I think you are. I think you're right about that. Great call. Appreciate wherever we're the break more to come on this program. Again the the game out, no Mahajan rain delay. So we'll let you know, when that goes back and being anytime soon, we'll talk more continuing to reflect back on the history of college football. We've talked to Michael Weinreb a couple of different time. Times about the forty fifties sixties and today we're gonna talk about the seventies hope you'll stick around. Talking about the seventies. That's where we are. And we welcome in our next guest. Michael Weinreb from the athlete. We've talked to Michael about pretty much every decade for a while. Michael, thanks for rejoining us feel like we're, we're, we're putting your a lot of work, but you're series is gonna ask donating, and we really appreciate you coming on. Good afternoon. It going the slow time of year. So we gotta talk about the past a little bit. Yeah. Well, I mean, there've been so many different aspects from the wartime to the fifties, and then the turbulent sixties in digging up and researching and reporting on on the seventies, what would be the best way to describe college football. Then. Well, first of all, there are a lot of great games. A lot of great teams and a lot of great players in that era. But the thing that's stood out to me was that it was kind of the era of the blue blood in the air of these, these huge programs is getting even bigger and a lot of a lot of ways manipulating the system behind the scenes so that it would stay that way, you know, if you look at for instance, the nineteen seventy three season you fly teams going to feed is one of those crazy twenty years, where impossible that she's a national championship for the teams that go undefeated are Notre Dame Ohio State, Penn State Michigan in Oklahoma. You know, so that's the kind of sort of roster of teas that dominated the nineteen seventy. And some of that was by design just been served with the way they started to manipulate the system little bit. You know, you also in our last conversation, you, we talked about the, you know, the fouth finally catching up a little bit with the entrance of African American. Players that was not such an issue in the seventies, but you did have such a name coaches. You had the kind of changing of the aero Notre Dame with air parsegian leaving. But they were still able to capture a national championship. You had Bryant resurging. And we showed the people we joke in Alabama about Alabama winning the title in seventy three thousand when the UPI poll still awarded one before the bowl game which of course, we all right? Was won by Notre Dame. Right. Exactly. Yeah. You had those situations where yeah, they, you know, some polls didn't happen until after the bowl games. It was still sort of that sense that college football was, you know, not professional sport yet. But, you know, one is story and wrote it, you know, this is kind of the air where it was still distinguishable from professional sports, but barely, so, you know, so you have this sort of recruiting ratcheting up. You had, you know, obviously once this out integrates, you know, a lot more black players coming into play. And, and also, as I mentioned, the, this, the system got manipulated by the scene so that, you know, freshmen were eligible, eventually scholarships are limited. But, you know, eligibility requirements for players were loosened so that. That, you know, a lot of gets you maybe came from poor under the forming high schools could get into school a little bit easier, which, you know, sounds like a good thing. But, but it wasn't always a good thing because then you had a lot of these schools start to manipulate those players once they were in school and put them in easier classes, maybe, you know, manipulate their grades and things. So, so it was interesting. A lot of interesting stuff happening behind the scenes, but yeah, right. The, you know, the, the headline news with that. You look at every national champion in the nineteen seventies, and it's kind of like a huge big name program to one exception is pit which one in nineteen seventy six but other than that, you know, you have Alabama and Notre Dame, Oklahoma USC. So it's just like the age of giants. Yeah. In, you know the interesting part about pick. I mean for about a five or six year period. I mean they really were at the at the at the top of the heap. Johnny majors he left? And, and he you know, he had a coaching staff that included Jackie Sherrill and, and. So many other great, great coaches, but in Tony Dorsett might not have even been the best player. During that era. I mean he had a couple of defensive players that, that are legendary. Yeah. I mean you look at Hugh green, and he might be one of the best defensive lineman of all time, at least in college football, you know. So, so, yeah, I mean, even it was sort of a blueblood at least for that period of time. And, and obviously, you know, once you Penn State started winning games under Paterno in the late sixties and early seventies. And they weren't really national power until you know, kind of the early to mid seventies, but they kind of come onto the scene, so there was a lot of different things happening regionally, you know. And obviously in the south, you had you had Alabama churches is kind of dominating things once they're, you know, once they're integrated and bears able to recruit, you know black players and, and just sort of refined is, is low Joe, I guess, over the course of that time. Yeah. And it it's like it's my colleague Brown, his sort of doing the all decade teams thinking in companion with my pieces. And doing the seventies it was really hard because you look at even just looking at like running back. It's insane. How many good running backs there were, you know, I mean, you think were set would be the best running back in the seventies. But you can make you can make a case like four or five other guys are all Campbell. Archie Archie Griffin waiting to? It's like yeah. Billy SIMS all these guys will just incredible. So, yeah, it was kind of it was mostly like a run. Heavy era, obviously. But, you know, the, the number of stars, and the number of star coaches just grew exponentially. Over the question of the decade. I'm interested as you, you. I'm sure you've already started working on a book every every decade hands off to the next one was was certain material and certain motion. What, what do you think at the end of the seventies was the hand off to the eighties before we get to that? And we'll get to that in a couple of weeks obviously. But what, what was what was the final epitaph on? The on the seventies, if you had to say, I mean, I think it is this idea of these programs just getting bigger and bigger and looking for more, money and ways to make more money. And I think this sort of peace from the seventies into the eighties that I've mentioned in the piece, is this idea of something called the college Football Association, which forms ninety seven. Yeah. Which was essentially a way of getting more football games on TV because I think a little probably a lot of your younger. Listen, should don't remember that. You know back in the seventies and early eighties, the NCW would limit how many games each team could have on TV. And so it was difficult for these schools to make the kind of money that they do now because they weren't allowed to be on TV every week. So I think that's kind of one of the big things that happened in the eighties. And then obviously, you have all this stuff that's happening the seventies with the changing of the rules and changing of eligibility requirements, and you can kind of draw direct line to all the scandals. Let's start to pop up in the eighties. SMU or some of the other ones that start to start to happen at that point. Yeah. And I don't remember when that case was filed but when it was finally judicata it in the mid eighties. It change college football forever. And that was the famous court case, I believe, brought by by Oklahoma and Georgia. Yeah, it was Oklahoma. And, and I'm gonna need to look at the year 'cause 'cause between us I haven't started writing the and Canadians yet. But, but, but yeah, I think this finally judicata in the mid nineteen eighties in that just sort of opened up everything. It's also like you have what, what you receive SPN founded nineteen seventy eight nineteen seventy nine or something like that. So, you know, it's all sort of seventy nine yeah, yeah, it's all sort of happening at the same time where you have cable TV popping up and ESPN's. Obviously, like we, we are going to televise as many cultural games as we possibly can. This is how we're going to turn ourselves into what is D is today. You know. So I think there were a lot of those market forces. Start to come together and you know, ESPN smartly realizing that people can't get enough college football, you know, and, and for better for worse that kind of how the system started to change. I don't know. Whatever happened to that idea. Weeding to stand alone networks and standalone shows, Michael, always great to catch up. I can't wait to talk to you about the eighty s and a few weeks. Sounds good. Thanks. We get Alan hunter. Here in be the guest EJ for the MTV version of that anyway, we are up against the break. More of your phone calls at eight five five two four to seven to eight five really have a fun show, so far again, rain delay out in Omaha. Auburn trailing four to one against Texas too. Glad you are with us. Good to have you on, on this. Tuesday afternoon. Greg is up next. Hey greg. They Paul thanks for taking my call. Thank you. I was just listening to the interview had concerning the seventies and. One of the things that market said, one of the brakes was, you know, merged so the high state and Michigan and all that one of the reasons why they were bigger than in the seventies because they were on TV more, you know, ABC primarily some CBS those networks, the three networks carry these games. But we didn't see a lot of southeastern conference football down here in Alabama. No, no. We saw, you know, you'd see people pulling for Ohio State, or Michigan even though there were no one had a dog in a race to them because it was something to watch. And, and when the eighties came, you started to see the emergence system, new teams, like Miami hurricanes with Howard shellenberger and, and reemergence. Some Nebraska and the nineties also brought in the state of Florida's a whole with Florida state, Florida and Miami. He battling out. And so you had more parody. I think in the nineties and that, you know people today complain about, you know, the same teams getting in well, that was the seventies, you just had three or four or five instead of, you know, one or two, and I. And I think it's just a indicative of the cycles that we go through. And so now when people are crawling for parody, they just have to look back in the nineties to see it. Well said, thank you very much cat daddy is on the air. Go ahead Kat dating. Hey, yo under the bull by the is one from you. That was a great one. You're, you're absolutely right. And you know we have South Carolina. We have wolf beach music, have a lot of tunes like it. But Bill, you don't tell the sports announcers, while a member Bob, Bob foot in over here, South Carolina, Mr. months, and updated, Joel, and John wall. They was always entertaining to him. You know they were. But let me tell you to, to funniest announces ever hotel vision or dizzy, dean and pee wee relax. I do as a kid they, they were you, I think it was CBS. They put two guys that you could not imagine. I think one was from Mississippi. The other was from Arkansas or someplace and, and I mean, they were as back in the woods, you could get. But they were funny. Yeah. Dizzy got in trouble two more women invasion because even the free that he would influence kids to miss round, the words, he'd always likes get a slid into per. He showed in the. Yeah, I don't know how long they were on. But they were funny. They were great. They would agree. Well, thank we turn. Thank you very much. Mark is in Massachusetts Marguerite. Heb. Hey. Oh, good. So you guys were just talking about the best era of college football, and I haven't really lived through I wouldn't say Ariza, but I lived I was I remembered kind of right before they switched over to the play offs. I remember the beast ended the BCS era. And I think one of the biggest issues college football is gonna face as this transfer portal 'cause I think for, for kids people, my age, we love everybody likes watching college football because it's the play is amazing. It's everything that the NFL can't do the NFL. They actually played defense in college football. There's less defense and it's it's exciting games. But it just for some people, I think they find it hard to follow because there's so many transfers while you're going from one place, the otherwise and so hard to follow. I mean for guy guy moves from one school to the next. I mean I'm not saying that I find it hard to follow, I think. On the show. But I think. Makes it more exciting. I mean, college football's more exciting this year with Jalen hurts going to Oklahoma, then hanging around Alabama being a backup way. I understand that. But I think for some other people I once again, this was me talking. This is what a lot of people. My generation feel is that a it. So okay, let me let me play along the people of your generation feel this way, as a result of feeling that way, I just think what enemy I think it's what's the predicate to the to the subject there. Wha-. What I'm saying is that the future of college football. I think there will be changed with the transfer. No, I don't think it's, listen, we disagree, but I'll leave it at that to me college football needs to do something desperately to infuse some more drama into the system. Because the, the college bowl sits sits situation is really sad in many respects. The product and the college football playoff. I don't care what Bill Hancock and the Commissioner say, has not been very exciting. I think one of the biggest issues is right now is that teams are recruiting like three quarterbacks in a class like no kidding. That's gonna there's me people going fifteen. I want you to explain to me again how that really impacts interest in college football. I think one of the great things about sports is just answering question. Do you think you think do you think people who are who are under the age of twenty really want the brand of a college to be some middle aged men in khakis, and a polo shirt? You tell me, Mark, I'm not I'm not people, I think I think people like brands which are players, and I think it's hard to have brand as a player went smart, Mark. How long have you been fallen college football? Ten years, okay? Coach football is not about individualism. It's about this. It's about the university and the local mall. No. And they're not going to say another word because, you know, more than me. And everyone else, go right ahead. But Paul, you're just following the propaganda that the president NC double A's, handing how. First of all, the instant president. He has nothing to do with college football but keep going right. He he'll talk a collectivism. You really you watch it'd be talking about college basketball talking about Alan Iverson, guys like that. You're talking about college football like I fell in love with college football because there's ten Tibo. Those are individuals. I think people they've, they find players that they wanna resemble. They find their guys that they want to resemble the collective unit. Like to be all honest. If you I don't think there's a lot of thinking into that. We've had many conversations on the air, I I've never heard you be more off on, on a subject than you are on this one. Paul. You're telling me that college football is really about the collective unit. Absolutely. So then why are there so many transfers, because you can? So then it's not a collective. Why do you why do you change your iphone every year? I don't. Okay. Well, you're, you know, Mark, listen. I don't know how I can even content contend with you. Because you, you, you seem to know how old are you? Now. Sixteen at sixteen. You seem to know more than anyone. I know. So I go Paul, Paul. I never said that I did because I want to listen more to you, you keep keep keep vamping on this subject. I don't understand why why why this. We're getting so hostile over here. I'm not I'm not being hostile. But even though I've tried to tell you the way I view it and you, you shut me down. Like I have no earthly idea. What I'm talking about. Yeah. That was not my intention attention was just to offer a. And I miss you several times Mark to explain to me, how sixteen year olds view college football, and you told me that you and your friends who live in Newton, Massachusetts, which is a very wealthy suburb outside of Boston view college football. Well, I think I think that's an important perspective. You know I pay a lot of tension to what goes down in. Telling me it's all about the brand. I'm saying that individualism is important part of the brand of college football. And I think it's harder to find rain. It is. It is one game that college basketball's about individuals. And we saw that this year. Was I on Williamson, but college football is completely a completely different game? But I, I will save my breath for someone who wants to listen. I'm an go right ahead. You're on the air union apologised listens that conversation. And I think here's the disconnect that you're young caller has we're not the Nintendo the players. You know, all these all these young kids sit around and play all these games. And they, they pick up on individuals because it's those individuals on the teams that they choose to give them the power over other teams that are on those games. But in the real world, we grew up knowing that team. And it's always been a team sport is nothing to do with no damn Brandon. That is some pe- that, that's Bs. I, I don't know. I think it's the embodiment of what college football is what it is. Because you grow up and you, you gravitate to a school and it's not only what's happening today. But it's what happened ten fifteen twenty thirty forty fifty years ago. You know, I'm not a huge baseball fan, but I can deal with the game. I love college baseball. I watched every pitch of the Auburn game the other night, and I might have watched some of the other teams. But you know what I have not watched any of the games. But, but it does this word, but come when did brand become a word. I mean th the soci- -nificant of the conversation. I mean brand replaced the word team. And that's where everything got screwed up. Everything got screwed up because some young guy decided, hey, we need to have a commercial here is check. Check soppe soppe take to take three take four. I mean TV got in the way of the game. Game and the got in the way of the day because they're trying to reduce it and sell commercials that same time. And, and when you're in the stadium and TV's involved, it's sucks, the life out of the state brand. So I'm a brand, I man, I hate to eight eight to jump off here. But we have to go to a brand a brand, of course. Coarser damn cherry, owes them slow. Important brands we need to push during the break, a course and they're not GED Chevrolet and the rail. Co the, the brands we grew up knowing have a great night. We're coming right back. I think I don't know. We may not come back, Mark. Maybe sitting here when we when we returned from the commercial. Jimmy is in Chicago. Jimmy garage head. All. Yeah. I was really interested in your conversation athletic guy gardens seventies. And I really saw the seventies as thick as part of a switch to really run heavy offense in the sixties you know, most teams friend of I said type of offense Texas was first team. I guess, to go to the wishbone, and then it's seventy one Alabama and Oklahoma. Both went to the both and that stored in just a long period of tremendous success from both those programs and after seventy and seventy one when Jim Plunkett, and Pat Sullivan won the Heisman, you didn't have another quarterback win the Heisman. I don't think so Flutie, maybe an eighty four and you. There's things that did run to wish they granted fear and, and teams at lined up in inappro- said, I guess they were in the eye and was really right over. And so I thought you really had a big change there. And again, all the heist and winters after that, we're, we're running back, but the piss team was really intriguing because back then, when Johnny features took that job shit administrators for seriously considering dropping football, and they were independent and major Scutt the job back then conference schools could have a hundred twenty five scholarships, but was an independent, and it was still limit to the number of players. They can sign and that's freshman year that brought in Tony Dorsett Ilya Walker. Randy Holloway, and all those guys they like seventy five players and it was the first year freshman real endorse. It. Freshman year with the first first team all American system forties, and, and so they took advantage of that rule. And I think not too long after I think even the conferences, limited their scholarships two hundred five then eventually eighty five. So it really resulted go in and run oriented offense this great running backs. And then I think for ignition when Howard snow bird and what the Miami that really have started a trend back with pro office is that dependent on the sport or by being a great passer 'cause after Howard got there, yet, Jim Kelly. Kozo artistic Verdy in Miami had a great running quarterbacks. And it was just a really interesting time, but against it's great football. And it was great watching the power housing so go out at put, but still though, I like everything eight it was just it was different. But always interesting. And you know that's why everybody just loves college game at least in my mind. Jimmy. I couldn't agree more in. You've you've done a really nice job of characterizing that periods. Yeah. You know, and him regarding the transfer portal. I mean I agree with you. I think it's great thing because at least I think doubling to serve some credit because for so long. All of us were crying out about the congress of coach is being able to leave at their leisure and go wherever they want and not have to wait or anything like that. But if a player who went to the that program because of that coach wanted to go he'd have to wait a year. And but, but I do think in football, though, they've done a nice. They, they done a nice little compromise before you can get automatic immediate eligiblity yet to crutch place. And I think that's that's that's good. Little aspect of it would. But you're right. So it allows players who have put their time in and, you know, maybe had the wait because they. Were just behind. Great players is someone to help another Ford wrath Jim or answer the call. We are heading to break two more hours ago.

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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show H2  Sep 6 2021

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Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show H2 Sep 6 2021

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Podcast can make you money and spreaker is the easiest way to start a podcast. You could literally record your first episode. today speaker. Has all the tools you need to record edit publish and yeah monetize your podcast. All in one place and it's free so tell your story and make money while doing. Start your podcast for free. Now at spreaker dot com slash make money. that's s. p. r. e. a. k. a. r. dot com slash. Make money from the iheart podcast network. Welcome to today's edition of the clay travis and buck sexton show podcast back in our number two clay travis buck sexton. Show be back with me. Tomorrow is a special labor day edition of the program in the meantime and we're joined now by. Espn lead college football analyst. Also one of the co host of college game day kirk herbstreit. He's got a great new book out out of the pocket. Kirk appreciate you. Joining us. And i gotta start with this. It felt like college. Football was one hundred percent normal. I mean i really felt that. I was in knoxville for the bowling green tennessee. Game and then. I was in charlotte for clemson georgia and i watched obviously is. I know you did. What was going on in wisconsin. What was going on in virginia tech. What was going on all over. This country full stadiums. It felt like a no. We had games last year but that things were back to normal. Did you get that sense too. Yeah yeah how you doing bud. Yeah i totally agree. I mean it was for me. I saw highlights of the game in knoxville. But the i watched the ohio state minnesota game and and just to see you know a tough environment and then a full stadium. It just felt like college football. And that was kind of a kickoff to the weekend and Ah games on friday and obviously a full slate on saturday the game last night. I can't remember the last time. I saw doak campbell looking the way it did last night. That was full stadium. Energy passion. notre. Dame florida stayed into overtime. I mean it was like it was like a hollywood script with mackenzie milton. Who had a devastating career-threatening almost wondered. Is he going to be able to walk again. Type of injury in eighteen and three years later he comes back and comes in late in the game to to bring the nose back to tie game again and over time it was. It was unbelievable. So yeah it was great. We obviously all missed this last year. we had some stadiums with zero fans some with twenty percent capacity. But as you know better than anybody. I mean college football my opinion that the nfl the pageantry the tailgating the sense of community the marching bands the cheerleaders the student sections that that's college football and we finally got a taste of that this weekend. How much importance do you place upon that. For the country's normalcy. I started off the show. Today kerr arguing that the width and breadth of college football fandom is sort of the heartbeat of americana in that regardless of who you root for college football fans have a lot in common and being able to be back tailgating being able to be back in full stadiums The experience whether it was virginia tech when enter sandman comes on and the crowd goes crazy or jump around in wisconsin. I don't know if you saw the pictures the red white and blue adm that they had a texas am. You're all of it is just i think so important to getting us back to a sense of normalcy what its grassroots america. Right i mean you go to all these different communities around the country and depending on what region you're i. I've always been blown away. I grew up in the big ten region. And when i started on college game day. Nineteen ninety six my twenty sixth year. There's always so open minded intrigued to learn to see how everybody gets ready for a game. And i've just always paid attention to that and whether you're in the sec or the big twelve pac. Twelve of the acc and everywhere in between people were like. I've had his parking spot for the game since nineteen eighty two. You know yeah. It's a real sense of community. The grandparents often went to that school. The parents went now. It's their children's chance to go to the school like you are in knoxville. I it's very different than being titans fan you know and yari different from being a chargers fan. Whatever your team is it's just incredibly different I mean i love all sports. i'm open. I'm open to them all. I go to a mall watch but when you go to a tailgate. Sec game or a big ten game. It's an experience and you really will feel people you never knew. Have the same color jerseys on you that you might have especially when your teams on the road and all of a sudden there's a connection there's fellowship. Hey come on over. Yeah have a drink or have a have a sandwich. And you're just hanging out talk with people talking about the game and the anticipation and anticipation of the game. And i really feel claimed college football. All of that stuff around the game is big of an event as the game itself and Even the game people get together. They they're talking about the game. Can you believe that third down. Play and I just keep going back to community. Because i feel that more than college football than any other sport that That i that. I go and and watch in person. My co host buck sexton here. You're going to be blown away by this By this kirk he's never been to a college football game in his life. So i am going to get him down for. I believe ole miss alabama. Which i think is mind will just be blown. He's also a single guy. So i told him he's going to have to keep his head on with all the girls. But what would you say to people out there right now kirk. Who have maybe never experienced a big college football game. We have listeners. In new york city they might be giants or jets fans. They may not even be that big a sports fans. What would you tell them. They're missing by not having been to a big college football game. Well i work with a lot of people you know when when i'm up in connecticut kid work with a lot of people over the years that grew up in in the new yorker boston area wherever it might be and they're more into the red sox or they're into the yankees or they're into the jets or nba. Whatever it is and that's great. That's how they grew up and they've also then all of a sudden been assigned to work on college game day and all of a sudden they find themselves in baton rouge louisiana and all of a sudden you talk to them after the game and they're working and they're like oh my god i. I didn't know it was like this. I had no idea that it was like this. This is so great. It's so funny to watch a person who might be in their twenties or thirties or forties. And they've never been to college a big time college football experience because maybe it's the ivy league or maybe it's a small school. You know d three that they've been to the east coast and they go to a big time college football game and they're just blown away like the marching bands alone. Some of these stadiums. Or have you. You'll have chills just kind of watching that part in the way the fans respond to the marching bands. That's like like the beginning of it in the teams come out. I think the only thing. That's close in america. The european soccer like the passion that you see when you turn on a game and you you hear the chance and all the emotion is college. Football and again i've covered. Nfl been around it the playoff or or primetime like a monday night game or thursday night game. The only time. The nfl comes remotely close to what college football offers. You know on a noon game. That might be top fifteen teams going against each other. So you don't have to circle back to me and let me know how buck how he does and what his experience is like. but yeah you just. It's just a different. It's a very different passionate crowd in comparison. What you get in the nfl. You communicate with millions of people to call games and obviously they're uniquely used to your voice. It's a soundtrack in many ways of college football. How did you find it to be different and door more challenging or less challenging to write a book out of the pocket which is out now. How was that communication experience for you. Different great question When gene wilder housekeeper who is the co author approached me about the book ideas during the pandemic and it was. I just felt like a good time to reflect And there's football in the book there's broadcasting and the book kind of my journey in that world but this is a very different book. This is that the book about fatherhood. I talk a lot about my dad. My dad was my hero. He played it ohio state. He's a captain there. And i just grew up in ohio and just he would take me to the games in ohio stadium. Going the locker room. After the game it sit on. Woody hayes his lap and look through his glasses with his hat on put archie griffin helmet on. When i was five six years old and i was hooked and my parents divorced. When i was eight and i kind of lived in a neighborhood like the movie. The fan lot where you're always outside plan. We obviously have video games or the internet or like you know people my age the outside playing freeze tag or or four square big wheels. Or whatever you know. We're just outside and that will just disappeared in the blink of an eye on was my parents divorced and moved and and i ended up going to school in nine years and my both. My parents were married. Both divorced again. I just kind of bouncing around and struggling. And i'm a very Quiet shy person especially as a kid very introverted and so when you move around like that you can hold a lot in. And so just saw some stuff and didn't really ever communicate however felt. I don't really communicate in general how i feel and so to open up in a book and talk about things i've compartmentalized emotionally for over. Forty years was really a challenge for me. It's kinda like that movie. Goodwill hunting with matt damon and robin williams and they kind of sit and look at each other the first couple of it's kinda. How was for me with gene until i finally started to get more and more comfortable with him and just started to open up and so it. It's a book that i hope will resonate with some people. I hope that they'll see and hear a story that maybe they experience something that they struggled with Everybody has trials and tribulations that they've gone through Today you know you're you're always gonna have adversity in life. Know there's a saying you either in a storm you're coming out of a storm or you're heading into storm and that can be as an employee it could be as a husband or a wife. It could be a father or mother. We all deal with stuff. And instead of hiding from the stuff i've dealt with. I talk about it openly and become very vulnerable in this book and like i said my whole my whole hope is. It's not a how to book. It's more of a Here i am kind of books. And i just hope it just resonates and people will be able to relate to it in some way and it's okay to fail. It's okay to struggle. And i think sometimes we all try to avoid that right whether it's with our kids. It's really hard to watch our kids struggle. I call it the snow plow generation of parenting. Were if it's a bad teacher of talking to your kid about you gotta figure this out. We gotta work through this. It's not gonna take them in a different class. Get rid of that teacher. If it's a bad coach it's not the co. It's not the kids fault. It's the coach's fault we gotta find a new team you know and so i feel like i. It's hard for me to watch my kids go through struggles and and at the same time. They've been through a lot of them and they've they've come through it and become better for it and This like talk about a lot of different stuff regarding adversity challenges. Both as a kid and anderson doll cursory with us right now and the klay trabzon buck sexton show last last question for you kirk. If college football didn't exist you would be. Where right now i i. My family didn't have any money. When i grew up i i got a scholarship which allowed me to pay for school. That's why when we talk about name. A likeness i look a scholarship is a game changer. For me it got me started in life. I would have probably joined. The marines are gone to the army. I would guess i. I don't know. I have no idea college football. That's why i love it so much. What's what's why i'm so passionate and so grateful for the sport and it's why i get so frustrated sometimes when people just talk about what's in it for me. I only need to be paid when you have an opportunity to build a relationship with folks when you go to school and you can take advantage of the system instead of the system taking advantage of you and i'm a perfect example that i'm gonna nominally. I mean usually think about people that you watch broadcast games. You know them from their playing days there hall of famers. They won super bowls or they wanted heisman. Whatever it might be i. I was just a solid quarterback in the big ten and yet my relationship with ohio state. Open doors for me. I is a local broadcaster. And then two or three years later i caught a break and and got to to on a national level and those doors never open for me if i didn't go to ohio state so every day i'm grateful for that relationship and the fact that i went there and i i wish more players would try to look at it to that land. As opposed to the school was making money. You know the system owes me money. I think you need to flip that way of looking at it and try to figure out ways you can take advantage of of the relationships. Were lucky enough to have kirk. Fantastic stuff is always. We'll be watching all season long. Encourage people to check out your book out of the pocket and good luck tonight. Thank man always great to come on with you. Good luck with all your new endeavors congrats on everything. I appreciate that. That's curb street. When we come back we'll talk more about some of the chaos surrounding the biden administration. What else plus. Alex berenson will join us in the third hour of the program. 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All in one place and it's free so tell your story and make money while doing. Start your podcast for free. Now at spreaker dot com slash. Make money that's s. p. r. e. aka our dot com slash. Make money from the iheart podcast network. Welcome back in. Clay travis buck. Sexton show just heard from kirk herbstreet. Fantastic from him. Doesn't i mean he's the voice of college football in a way that few times are people ever able to become the voice of any particular sport. I guess john madden still for a lot of people voice of the nfl. Certainly you could say charles barkley. I would say voice of the nba. But that's rare really fine conversation with him. Encourage you to check out that book. A alex berenson going to join us at the top of the third hour of the program. Special labor day addition. Let's get back to talk to kirk there about his experience when he eventually goes on the road and sees a big major college football game and how much he's going to enjoy it but the craziness that is continuing to To spiral out of afghanistan. It's really not surprising anybody who's been listening to this program because bucket i have been breaking down where we were headed as soon as we started negotiating with the taliban right now we got hostage situations taking place all over the country. Let's listen to congressman. Michael mccall laid out on fox news sunday clearing the airplanes to depart the set at the airport for the last couple of days. these planes and they're not allowed to leave We know the reason why is because italian wants something in exchange. This is really chris turning into a hostage situation where they're not going to allow american citizens to leave until they get full recognition from the united states of america. My concern is jihad or special envoy. Who's met with the taliban. They're in talks right now. And i i worry. His recommendation to the administration will be to recognize taliban. The official government of the united states a taliban organization that as a terrorist organization. Sounds like to me. We're going to have to send them some more harshly worded letters. Because that's our everybody knows that you really make terrorists aware that you are taking them seriously. A really mean letter threatening them with you in sanctions and failure to recognize if they don't start treating people better. We big tech is in the tank for far left wing politics. But i've got an incredible example coming up for you next that. I wanna walk you through involving ivermectin. You know the drug that a lot of people including bach took to get better after cova that has turned into a major battleground. This is legitimately fake news. Twitter claims that cares about not censoring this in any way. Clay travis buck sexton. Show appreciate all of you hanging out with us on this labor day edition of the program also appreciate the crew. Come in and didn't want to Mess as less stories out there. I've been working labor day for fifteen years now. Didn't wanna miss today. Buckle back with me tomorrow going to try to get into a bunch of different stories here in the back half of this show. But i wanna start here with a rolling stone story and if you wanna go see a story that perfectly encapsulates. The fell year of big tech companies to apply a consistent and even standard of editorial management to their platforms. This is it. And i want to open up a window for you here into what happened and then tracked through. Why a story like this matters. So here's what happened. Rolling stone ran a story that claimed that gunshot victims are left. Waiting as horse de warmer doses. Overwhelm awful oklahoma hospitals. A doctor says all right. That's the headline in rolling stone. It spreads like wildfire throughout social media. This idea that ivermectin is being used and it's causing a huge number of people to have to be hospitalized. Such that gunshot victims are not able to receive medical treatment at hospitals. That's the headline. This is the headline over the weekend. Okay turns out that it's one hundred percent ally. The story is one hundred percent not true. Okay there's a difference between fact and opinion right. This is zero factual basis behind the story. In fact the the hospital that is named as the one that is overwhelmed with ivermectin patients says the doctor who was quoted. This is the official statement that is put out from this oklahoma hospital. Although dr jason moco ye is not an employee he is affiliated with a medical staffing group that provides coverage for our emergency room with that said. He's not worked at the hospital in over two months. So this doctor claims makes up a story that ivermectin is over running the hospital and then the hospital puts out a statement and says not only is the hospital not overrun with ivermectin patients. They haven't treated anybody due to complications and there have been no ivermectin overdoses at all and they say all patients who visited our emergency room. Not only are there no gunshot victims. Who are unable to be treated. They say all patients who have visited our emergency room have received appropriate medical attention. Our hospital hasn't had to turn away any patients who need emergency care and they have to put out this statement saying everybody is fine. This story is one hundred percent ally the idea that rolling stone put out there. That ivermectin is overloading a hospital. And that it's unsafe to be taken. It's one hundred percent of why i want to give credit to drew holden. Who does fantastic work. He's fought at drew holden three sixty on twitter. Encourage you to go read through his thread yourself. You can also go read about this at outkick dot com but every body picks up this rolling stone article and runs wild with it including rachel maddow. Whose tweet goes viral. She says patients overdosing on ivermectin are backing up rural oklahoma hospitals. And ambulances the scariest. One i've heard of in seen is people coming in with vision loss. This is rachel. Maddow the lead host of the most popular show on. Msnbc she tweets this story out and over ten thousand people. One hundred percent made up story over. Ten thousand people are sharing it like crazy. Msnbc executive producer who has been complaining about fake news shares like mad. It gets picked up by all the major british outlets. Newsweek new york daily news the hell they all right their own version of this story and it explodes and is everywhere on social media now. What does twitter do about this twitter band. Our guest alex berenson who were going to have in the third hour of the program. And i'll directly. Ask him about this. But they banned alex berenson for sharing actual facts about covert the co vaccine disgusting israeli data. All of its fact. These are people sharing one hundred percent inaccurate stories. that is totally made up this rolling stone story. All that matters on big tech is not truth or fiction. It's whether or not. The narrative supports the narrative that they want to be true. Joe rogan gets cove. It takes ivermectin beck buck sexton by the way did the same thing. I had kobe. But i had such a mild case. I'd have to take anything and everybody out. There goes crazy in the blue checkmark brigade even though ivermectin has been taken safely by millions of patients for decades. And even though there's evidence that suggests that it may be helpful. Joe rogan drug cocktail. Couple days. he's back to one hundred percent. This story is made up itsel lie. We know it's a lie. You know it's a lie. There's nothing on rachel. Maddow al's account about the fact that this is information that is untrue. There's no checkmark against rachel maddow for spreading a story that is one hundred percent true. There's not even a demand for rachel maddow to take down the story that she shared. That's one hundred percent false. How can you justify kicking. A guy like alex. Berenson off of your social media platform at twitter. How can you justify when buck sexton awry share data. That makes the foul shiites unhappy that there is a tab often added to our tweets that says find out more information about covert nineteen here. How can all of that be occurring and twitter does nothing to all of the left wing blue checkmark brigade members spreading this story which is a one hundred percent. Why as if it is the truth and twitter does nothing. I know we get used to hypocrisies. But i believe that you have to keep hammering home these hypocrisies for a significant reason even though it may at times feel incredibly frustrating and self defeating. Because we're not really fighting the forty percent that is going to triple mask. And they're going to stay in their basements and they're going to be triggered beyond belief by all the college football fans were fighting for the twenty percent who are reasonable the people who might be willing to look and think about the data behind masking children. The people who might recognize that england for instance is not giving the vaccine to young children. Because they're under such a limited risk from cova that it doesn't make sense to do so the fact that almost all european countries are not requiring masks on their school children because there's no basis upon which to base that scientific decision. These are the people. Were trying to win the twenty percent of reasonable people. That's how we win when we come back gavin newsom. What's going on in the california recall election. I will give you the latest updates as it pertains to that election and what is likely to happen. Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. This is a special labor day edition of the clay travis and buck sexton show. I remember making prediction. I know how resilient you are. And i know that you people don't just sit out there and take it. You're gonna do what you can overcome. You're not just going to sit there. And take the wisdom of rush now with clay travis and buck sexton on the eib network In here they are seasonal savings throughout the home depot. The you can get back out there for more doing in here at the webber spirit grill out there the dinner bell your next neighborhood cookout in here. It's a gallon of exclusive bear scuff defense paint and a lillard white vanity out there. It's a rejuvenated guest bath. Ready for guests get back for more doing storewide savings for housewife omen at the home depot. How doers get more dot back. End clay travis buck sexton show appreciate all of you hanging out with us on this labor day. Edition of the program gavin newsom. The recall election is underway. And there's a panic going on because they've even brought kamla harris out of hiding to suddenly start campaigning. For gavin newsom. And larry elder came out and said hey you know what if diane feinstein were to step down. I'd promote a republican. And you know it was starting to get really contentious in terms of the likelihood of gavin newsom. And whether or not he's going to win this recall election because all of the negative press started to rain down on. Larry elder's head. They found every person who has ever had any negative story associated with larry elder for the last fifty years of his life to suddenly right a negative article. I mean the l. a. times in one of the all time. You can't even make this headline up the babylon be couldn't even come up with this. They called larry elder the black face of white supremacy. That was their headline. Yes a black man running for governor in california they labeled him the black face of white supremacy in california. And i don't i think there's that many white supremacist in california. I've spent a decent amount of time out there. I don't think that many white supremacist period. And certainly the the idea. This is like the old Dave chapelle skit. I think clayton bixby the kkk member. Who was blind and didn't realize he was black. Which is a really hysterical one of many really hysterical chapelle show skits from back in the day but this is next level craziness and the numbers out. There are alarming for gavin newsom but the betting markets have started to swing back a little bit in his favor as the millions of dollars. Africom raining in in his favor over thirty million dollars. They're now spending in the last few days of this recall election to try to assure. That gavin newsom wins this race including lots of the big tech industry companies. And i'm counting net flicks. As tech industry company reed hastings the ceo. Of co-ceo i believe it is of netflix. Rolling in over three million dollars in his favor. Kamla harris running around campaigning for gavin. Newsom and look. I know a lot of you are listening to us right now in california and i have been hearing from a bunch of friends in california who otherwise would be democratic voters. That are so fed up with all the choices and decisions gavin. Newsom has made that. They are voting in favor of his recall. And so what i would say. Is this the likelihood of gavin newsom. Losing i think is an upset but what i would encourage all of you to be doing is even if gavin newsom wins by a slim margin which i think is probably. What's likely to end up happening. If i were having to bet on the outcome here the message that is being sent is very clear and it is this one. It's time to get back to normal all over the country. Because gavin newsom has a massive advantage in overall democrats that are registered in the state of california the fact that he is even found himself in this donnybrook in this tight election race. That is requiring him to spend tens of millions of dollars to avoid is a testament to his failure as a governor and to the failure of the one party state that is democrats in california people are abandoning the state of california in record numbers. The likes of which have never been seen since california became a state and people are abandoning california and moving in big numbers. Two states where freedom exists. Listen to this listen to the top inbound cities in twenty twenty one i was looking at this data. This is from axios. Tampa bay orlando florida. Savannah georgia dallas texas tampa. Florida austin texas nashville tennessee. My hometown here fort myers florida west palm beach. Florida fort walton beach florida charleston south carolina melbourne florida might be melbourne florida. I apologize there. Raleigh north carolina charlotte north carolina. Greenville south carolina. That's the top twenty. And i just ran through all of the southern locations where people are moving. If florida and rhonda. Santa's was really that dangerous as it pertains to covert. Do you think people would be moving to florida. In record numbers and fleeing the states in the northeast and in the west where freedoms are less significant in pouring into the states. Where freedoms are the most significant. I don't think so. And i know some people get nervous there. You're like hey californians are going to be like locusts. They're going to move the nevada. They're going to move to arizona. They're going to spread their left wing. Politics could be even worse. What i am seeing in my hometown of nashville is the people who are leaving our red voters who are fed up with the failed policies of blue states. And so i think what's going to end up happening with the kovic map as it changes in terms of where people are moving. I think the red states are gonna get redder. And i think the blue states are going to get bloor and while we gotta do is win as many of those purple voters as we possibly can and the message in california even if gavin newsom wins if he wins narrowly the message. I think is going to have to be heard and that is failed. Far left wing. Politics are destructive to your electoral chances. Even if you live in a deep blue state like california when we come back top of the third hour of a special labor day edition of the clay travis and buck sexton show. We're going to be joined by alex. Berenson alex berenson has been banned by twitter for sharing facts about cova. 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Hour 1: Heather Dinich

The Paul Finebaum Show

35:02 min | 2 months ago

Hour 1: Heather Dinich

"They fried passion than patron three of college. Football leaves here. Is the paul finebaum. Show our one podcast. good afternoon. Welcome in here on a thursday and we were often running and we can't wait to get get in with you as well on the phones before we get to the phone calls and you can call in now. Eight five five two four two seven two eight five. We have a number of guests including heather didn't show she'll be joining us in a couple of minutes breaking down the conference contenders sleepers and more. We'll talk about the cfp anything new on that and get. Heather's takes us very high on the big twelve. You may remember conversation about a week ago and get up with the two of us were. She said she thought the the big twelve had a much better. Chance of getting to in the cfp than the sec did insinuated. Georgia really didn't have that tough of schedule. We'll get in to that with her coming up here in a few minutes sports business world ricardo. Join us in a few minutes. The reaction a week later on nfl. I know it's a story we can't get away from. We'll talk about the crimson tide. Was stephen smith in about ninety minutes. Blake top meyer from usa today. Talking about lane kiffin have things changed their. What about auburn football. Can brian hartson get it going. In the right direction darren hytner. He is a well known lawyer And he has dealt with nfl very extensively. And we'll also talk to josh kendall from the athletic. I saw something earlier today. I thought i thought it was really interesting. Wanna run by. Stewart mandel in the athletic. Ask the question who which which. Which former college football player do you think would have profited the most from n. l. and we'll go back a number of decades here herschel walker who played eighties. Tim tebow who played about fifteen years ago. Reggie bush played a little bit longer than that. Johnny manziel joe nemeth. Ken stabler member really interesting names. He threw out and he decided that that he thought initially maybe tibo would have capitalized on his fame. More than anyone else however he felt tibo because of what he stands for would've ended up earmarking most of the money to his various charitable and religious endeavors. So he came up with the answer. Who has it. He says johnny football. Hey for all we know. Johnny football may have made millions playing anyway based on some of the things he said since but remember he got he got you got in trouble with With autographs and things. But i mean that's that the moniker itself. Johnny football can you. Can you imagine what that would have been worth he He recently disclosed. He made thirty three thousand dollars from those illicit autographs outings. According to stewart that the ncw looked into. I think he he was kept out of a single play. But think about it for a second. Think about it for a second. You go through time. And and i in. I think herschel walker. That's forty years ago. bo jackson. Just think about your favorite team and the most popular player We had Former sheriff of mobile yesterday call and he thought johnny musso would have done very well. And that's fifty years ago name with the sixty years ago but i tend to agree with him a little bit on johnny manziel. Yeah he he. He was not the best player to ever win the heisman trophy but he may have been the most exciting and i think. Exciting player is really. What would drive this industry. You know some are making a lot of money now. There's a story out today about olivia. Done the gymnast from lsu who may be signing a seven figure deal who knows if you can back those things up but certain players you know could zion williamson could have but he was only there for a year so i think it's really interesting to think about. I'm going to throw this out there. We have four hours to talk about it but Who would you if you had to put your ten dollars down on which college football player of any era would have done the best. I jokingly said this is somebody that they think about what different players would have done and the advertisements. Kenny stabler who was well known to frequent the bars down in gulf shores. He would He would have made a fortune alone. Just representing the floor obama. Can you imagine the commercials for the floor battle. Namus famous in college more famous out of college. Just think of you know through the seventies. The eighties nineties the various players In i'm trying to come up with somebody. Better than johnny football reggie bush would keyshawn johnson. He was a flashy player. It's not the best player. It's it's the player who had flash i mean. Can you imagine what joe borough would have done just two years ago you know. Lsu can you imagine. Can you imagine the amount of money a year like that. I'm gonna. I'm looking back over time Trying to see if some what are you. Hey go back go back sixty years you think billy. Cannon could've made some money after the the halloween night run. I think so Going through history. Oj simpson maybe not a good example archie griffin. He won the heisman twice at ohio state. He won the heisman twice. Marcus allen. Flashy guy herschel bo barry sanders going. I'm just. I'm just going through some heisman winners here. Danny werfel as popular as there has ever been peyton. Manning eli manning everybody from from the sec era. It's pretty remarkable rg three. I mean what what a name. That was lamar jackson. Baker cuyler anyway. Just some thoughts and we'll we'll play with this Throughout the afternoon. Eight five five two four to seventy eight five. I mentioned the guest list Heather dench comes up in a minute. I just had a friend of mine. frontex amigo. Who said who said the big twelve is going to get to and heather ditch said the big twelve has a better chance than the sec of getting to in your phone calls are welcomed throughout the day. Eight five five two four two seven two eight five. We'll talk about who could have profited the most from l. your phone calls and heather finish next right after this. You're listening to the paul. Finebaum show podcast. Do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. And i bet it can be hard work you know. It's easy bundling policies with geico. Geico makes it easy to bundle your homeowner's or renter's insurance along with your auto policy. It's a good thing too because you already have so much to do around your home. Go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. It's gyco easy visit. Geico dot com. Today that's geiko dot com one aplin sap we back to style up. Never beat new dry. My goes back in mystic my gut the suit backing down at mitchell. What he's at three point three messy cassie costa frame off as down the line the espn app download. Now we are back here talking about a lot of things including the upcoming college. Football season with heather sh Who of course covers the cfp. Four espn heather. Great to have you back and seems like it was just yesterday. We were talking about all these exciting things on television. How are you. Where are we as you start to break down the college football season. I'm good thanks for having me on You know what i'm excited to be talking about. Paul van we went through. We went through a week or so of supreme court. Name image likeness. cfp meetings. And all that. And i feel like media day summer camp is right around the bend and we can start talking about some ball again. Good yeah i and you break down you go. Through a number of the league's in terms of you know which teams have the best shot and certainly there's not a lot of earth shattering Predictions in because we tend to have a pretty good idea. But the win. I want to ask you about you. Know where i'm going. Here is the big twelve because a lot of a lot of folks down where i live are still Still in a mild state of shock over what you said the other day on on on get up in relation to the big twelve for those who missed it. Maybe didn't get up that early. Let's let's go over that again like it just like it never happened so well. I mean the question was wisconsin's has the best chance to get two teams into the playoffs this year. And i think it's the big twelve. And i say that because you look at oklahoma and iowa state as two teams that have the best pat right now. I think the sec can certainly do it. Obviously we've seen it before alabama georgia right. Could it happen again absolutely. Here's why i like the big twelve instead because first of all i think that they have not necessarily an easier path but the likelihood of those two teams facing each other again in the big twelve championship. It's a different scenario than what you see in. The sec is logistical. The way it plays out. They're going to face each other during the regular season and if they can get to the conference championship game with one of them and having their only loss to each other. Then you have a great chance. It makes perfect sense because the big twelve champ either undefeated or with one loss has a great chance to get in and then the runner up either with one loss with one loss right also has a great chance to get in. So it's the sheer numbers of two excellent teams but between those two teams at least on paper. I think oklahoma is better. I would rank them ahead of them in the preseason right now but man. You just can't sleep on iowa state. 'cause they have some real talent this year whether let's go over that because our my sec friends are bristling because they are so high on georgia alabama and maybe even am to a lesser degree. So let's just break down to you know best versus best and i want to push you a little bit on your on your rationale there because it comes down to a lot of things and one thing that you said the other day you were concerned. Yeah you know. Georgia plays clemson in the opener. But you you answer the court. I don't want. I don't want to answer your question but but i want you to fill to finish the thought on georgia's schedule. Oh sure yeah i mean. Look if it's if it's not for that game against clemson. I think the sec east. If it worked for georgia let me put it this way. If it weren't for georgia just like if it weren't for clemson in the atlantic division to me. The sec east has the potential to be one of the weakest divisions in college football this year. And i say that because on paper. I don't know why everyone is so excited about florida. Their defense was horrible last year. They lost two of their best players on offense coming into this year. Now by the time november rolls around is florida top twenty five team and contending for the maybe but as we sit here in july. I'm not putting them in my preseason top twenty five and i'm sorry but i'm not you know raising any banners for tenzin vanderbilt right or kentucky for that matter so georgia is an outstanding team that we should be talking about in the college football playoff race but if they don't win that game against clemson then to me they're strength. The schedule gets a thing right off the bat right but i will tell you that in regards to the big twelve conversation if iowa state doesn't beat iowa then my whole big twelve there he gets blown out of the water so i'm trying to think this through and i and i i have thought it through so they have clemson's beginning. We can't take that off the chart. You're talking specifically about the sec east. But right they also have the opportunity. And you know this to play alabama at the end so yeah. I'm still not sure if even if they lost clemson or if they beat clemson i if they book if they if they split the book and games. One was not on the schedule. How does your theory hold up. Oh they're not gonna they're not gonna have any problem getting in if they win and they well if they'd be out obviously they lose one. I if if they beat clemson than lose alabama then. They're going to be considered just like they were even considered as a two loss runner out. What was that two three years ago. Right they're going to be in the conversation. My point is your comment on get up was questioning iowa. State strength of schedule and my response was well. Yeah but if you're gonna question there's you got gotta question georgia's because the sec. East isn't very good. I mean if they beat clemson that i mean what. What else can you say. The weakest divisions in football. That's yes he is. Yeah yeah. I heard you say a couple of times. Yeah i mean look if as going into this year and because it to me. One of the biggest drops on it is because florida Lost so much and defensively. They weren't they weren't that great last. I mean why do you like florida. Do you have them as top twenty five. What's your what's your laura to ten and two. I mean they. They have two of the top five teams in the in the country on their schedule. But i think beyond that they're going to win out okay. They and they might. But when i when i look at teams and where they are right now here july i can't put them in a way as a preseason top twenty five team i will absolutely give the gators credit come november if they are what what you say. They're going to be which they wish they might like credit where to do. No listen i. I'm i'm loving listening to you through throw throw heat. I mean i'm. I'm taking a break during this conversation. One like leaving you speechless. Not you even me speechless. No not listen. I think this is so much fun because at the end of the day. Nobody knows who's gonna win these games. Right i mean. Look i put. I put miami as possible Team to keep an eye on. And i think they're gonna get crushed by alabama and how much how much longer are we talking about. My you know you know. I don't know so. Nobody knows how the season is going to play out. But i agree with you. One hundred percent that if georgia loses to clemson and beats alabama there in but if georgia loses the clemson and they lose to alabama. I can't make a case for that. No no in by the way. I wanna make sure you understand. I i am. I would agree with you on that. I'm just not. I mean i i only get paid so much. The way the sec flag. No i understand. I mean am i missing. Who else is on george schedule. Besides clemson and alabama. Well i mean that we can go back in florida Kentucky yeah yeah. No zuri the end with charleston. Southern georgia tech. You're not giving much credit. There are now not you got you got to win those games. So i mean they have wiggle room because they have a chance at alabama right. That's that's what it all boils. That's what it all boils down to you but beyond beyond those two to me. The schedule has right now. Is a shoulder shrug and we could just play tug of war. I guess south florida. We'll see what happens to the gators talking to vintage Why let me go back to the iowa state oklahoma situation. Let's talk about those Let's talk about our state because we know oklahoma. It's going to be very good. We talked about that. History will tell us more about iowa state. So i was state is good because matt campbell has stuck around and he's built a program so he's got like super seniors on his roster and they are a you know you hear cliche of where a team right. But i believe it when they say that they've got the intangible but they also have talent to go along with it they've got brees hall back. Who has the potential to be in the heisman conversation. Brock purdy their quarterback again. It has the potential to be in the heisman conversation. How many teams can you talk about. Out of the big twelve. Who has to heisman hopefuls on their rosser right and just the way he gets them to play together as team now. I'll tell you this. I talked to matt campbell this off season and he knows how difficult it is and the challenge for them is different because they're not as talented as a team like oklahoma so we have less margin for air so they have to be so disciplined and fundamentally sound and the thing is i have enough confidence in campbell as a coach that i think he can get them to do that. The question is can he get them to do it every single week against every opponent and not have those letdowns against k. state and teams that. You're supposed to win against talking to heather. Heather let's talk about the cfp No there was some news this week You know unfortunately. Rc slocum has has some illness issues. what's happening there and does it in with one coach replacing. Another does it. Does it really change the outlook. Order the most coaches think similarly when when they're in that room. I don't think it necessarily changes the outcome first of all Hopefully rc slocum is going to be okay. You know obviously There are a lot of people out there pulling for him. He's diagnosed with a form of hodgkin's lymphoma am so that he is receiving treatment for it around where he lives and tyrone willingham has replaced him and willingham was on the committee in the inaugural. I two two or three seasons of the cfp. So he's been through this before. The coaches voices are so important in the room because they do bring a different perspective right and there are just There are different ways that they look at it. Obviously as opposed to an athletic director right or a female reporter or somebody who might be more analytic in terms of their approach to it so there are times where others in the rooms will look at the coaches and say hey you know what what do you think about this and they will say. This is what we see on. Paper is what we're seeing. Some matching doesn't have conversations and the coaches are all different. I remember paul when Oh gosh The the very first year of the committee there were just some people who would really defer to some of the coaches to see what they thought about it. I mean frank. Beamer was on the committee you know. And he sends rotated off but their opinions are certainly held in high regard. But i've also been told that they don't necessarily carry more weight than others in the room. It all begins over these next two weeks with media days all over the place and we will continue as always talking to you. Thank you so much I don't think you've heard the of this audience today. It's all good fans acumen business. Keep me in business. It's all good. Love the spunk. Thanks we'll talk to you very soon. Thanks bye show bringing some serious heat. Today we'll talk about what she had to say. And more from you at eight five five two four two seven two eight five right after this. You're listening to paul. Finebaum show podcast. This is dc in our seat. I'm daniel corny. I'm gonna former two division champion. And i'm a bad mammoth jam. Yes he is. And i'm ryan clark former super bowl champ. Be sure to follow out new podcast wherever you can't. We wanna talk intimate. We're gonna talk sports life. We just have a great time. It's going to be a ton of fun is going to be fun. Our c. dc dc is ready to roll guy that's dc and rc. Nina follow wherever you listen to all your podcast welcome back. Let's get some reaction to everything that's gone on so far and we begin with chris who's up next. Hey chris how're you doing today sir. We're doing great thank you. Yes sir. i'm just going straight to the porn. okay Listen to heather dina each I know she's hired by. Espn as a expert on college football. i'm probably gonna make her mad and makes some post mad that i don't consider her in expert at what she does I don't see how she can be classified as an expert at what she does. this hurricanes and in about what she thinks this and thinks that I how. I don't see how she comes to what she comes to kenyans in about. Who she thinks will make playoff and she thinks go have two teams in in the playoffs in this net. The other absolutely made no sense anything that she was saying. And and just because. I love the sec. That's not happening. I don't to be forced into defending her. Because i i don't agree with your either but she is very knowledgeable. I understand that that that she knows for college football. Yes so it's just. I don't understand her her thinking behind our state her thinking behind. Oklahoma oklahoma has a history. We all we all. We all know Meeting somewhere and getting blown out they play. No defense and our state is nothing when when when it comes to to anywhere in college football they may have a good season but as far as being one the final four is. I just don't see her logic in me. And one of the final force in pasta going to feed or had them one one loss. Then that being better than a georgia team which i feel. It's own beat. Clemson and have a better chance of going undefeated and having a showdown with alabama in the coffee championship game in both of those teams meeting in what they did in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen. Then i'll stay in oklahoma And just about this compensation that That she has about several others In years past. I don't agree with them. A who per playoff Rhetoric that i call it On from the teas that the let she About there some of the some paths downing alabama a lot more Warning on ohio stadium all the time. It's pretty obvious that she should be fair and impartial when it comes to that kind of stuff and i know. Espn her in a in a spot to me. You know when it comes to college football playoff that she's their primary reporter and i was thinking that but as far as being an expert i i just can't call for an expert at her field. I know she. She studies college football all year round. But it missed into that to today. A report it was it was it was just sickening to make him and i personally just wished they'd have somebody else doing so. Maybe that that's that's more knowledgeable made. It's played it the mighty that under i hear Because just because you played college. Football doesn't make you a in any better than than anyone else when it comes to evaluating the overall field of the game it it does it does make you better understand the xs and os. And i've i've said that before. I didn't play college football and i don't try to argue. Xs and os with with experts. Who have been on the field. But but i think i think she is eminently qualified to study the game as a lay person in terms of who she thinks is going and who. She's not i. I've been with a lot of excellent ball players who don't know any more than somebody on the street. When it comes to predicting football correctly they may know more about designing place but I don't think that's fair to her. Appreciate the call and again. I don't mind i don't agree with her. I mean i was on national television with the other day disagreeing with her. But i i do resent when somebody says well. She doesn't have you know. I'd rather have somebody who played football I mean that that we got enough of those okay. Let's continue with more phone calls taxes up next in washington. Hey tax go right ahead paul. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you. I was very intrigued with your who in past years would have done well and name enemy jin likeness in the very first thing that popped into my head. Was vince young. And i. i was thinking about a friend of mine. Who is a professional in el paso and the walls of his office are papered with framed. sports illustrated covers. That had vince. Young on them and there were a lot of them have had And then. But then i thought about there is a texas dynamic that has grown stronger and stronger over the years in and that is everybody every every university football team in texas that is not texas the university of texas roots against them. So you ask baylor fan who. They're rooting for next saturday. They'll say i'm rooting for baylor and and four. Whoever's playing texas so in that sense. I think johnny manziel got a got a A more would have received Name image and likeness support From a broader spectrum of fans and that he was so exciting but. So is vince young. But i'll finish up by just saying I wouldn't mind have it in my pocket. The money that been shown got under needs potato. I think maybe the better. I should have said is not who would have made the money but who did make the money i you know. I had a friend who played division one basketball at a school that often goes to the nc bolaise and he just raises his eyebrows. And grins still to this day. I heard a story before you go tax about player. This is fifty years ago that School left fifty thousand dollars in cash and his driveway. And i once asked him about it many years later he didn't deny it. Oh that's a lot of money then Yeah he was a good player. I i understand well. It turned out. He may have been worth it. You know. I think those i just looking at it from pure market sense are good investments generally. Yeah i i There was a certain school that won a national championship a couple years ago with a controversial player. One of my neighbors was an alum and he said listen. I i'm i hope we don't ever have to get caught because i i really believe in integrity but if you ask me was it a good investment. Yes thank you. It's really good to hear you to take care of all. Let's check in with evan next Hello evan good afternoon. How's it going. We're doing great to And i'm sure somebody's probably brought it up before. But i believe the troll job. Newton could have done in the one year. He was at auburn. Try to sail. Laptops would have been that would have been great but the other side of it What about lsu's tiro. Matthew is the honey badger He would have done quite well. Yeah and now remember. You know he he may have he may have infringed on his earnings ability. His final year but He he. He had one of the great great nicknames of all time close that man could have sold enough security systems in the state of louisiana to never have to play pro football. I think you're right but I just wanted to throw those out there. I didn't know if anybody had but they would have done. Pretty well or Those are really good. When thank you. Marcus is up next. Hey marcus go right ahead. A politician taking my call Dog out a couple of things. I while i was listening here. I heard your first caller talking about woman. Somebody play college football to Do the shows more. And i i gotta disagree with him on that because as somebody who has a degree in broadcast journalism it aggravates me when i see guys get jobs like that just because they played football and i listened to some of them. You know not to bash anybody. I listen to some of them talking and things like that and it's like man. This guy was not for this. He wasn't trained for this. But there's a place. I frankly believe that in the booth for for a game the the analysts shoe should be a former player or coach. But i i can't tell you how many times i've sat on the desk. Espn or somewhere else with five or six people. And i'm i'm the only non player and you know. Sometimes you get the feeling as if you shouldn't even be there and there isn't fraternity and that's okay but and i understand why people think that because that's all we see but i i will. I dare say that you know someone who comes from the other side can have a in terms of projecting predicting analyzing can be just as smart And and are not colored by by their experience which doesn't always help you analyze particularly a coach. And that's i'm more talking about a coach player right and i agree with that but back to the reason i called in oil deal I have two players and like everybody else so for The first one is more of a local player on my alabama fan. So i'm thinking about somebody who could have sold in alabama town pro throw before we get hurt that year. He was having dry. And you know what i think. Even after he got hurt he he may have made so much money because they were so we all felt so terribly about it right. I mean he definitely never had to pay for a meal for at least ten years after that The other guy would have been more of a national recognition. Dion sanders on the anybody's topless. I agree with you on that. That's a that's a fantastic analysis. Hey thank you so much for the for the call in and it's it's interesting about the former players and i i don't want to this. This came about because somebody who said had their did not have the right. I'd rather hear from a former player. I think former players have great perspective but they also don't see it as a lay person sees it and especially when evaluating coaches and it doesn't mean that they don't have a good opinion Most of the time they do but sometimes they are jaded by by their own experiences. We will take a break more to come right after this. You're listening to the paul finebaum show podcast number guest to come. Let's continue getting reaction. A lot of people reacting to what heather had to say. Jason is up next. Hello jason hey how you doing. We're doing well. Thank you just about hair damages. Zehr report I think clips is the real danger. Pol if georgia do you own or rent your home. Sure you do. Fortunately geico makes it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. It's a good thing too. Because having a home is hard work go to geico dot com. Get a quote and see how much you could save. Geico dot com easy.

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