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Peaky Blinders S1E6
"Welcome to previously about caceres created to help you. Through some of the most complex complex william television ever made biki blind disease mormon episode six. We begin with mr campbell paying a visit to mr jiang's brothel. Y'all could tell zanga knows the true. Nature of the business being run their elsewhere. Thomas is doing the rounds informing the gang that today's the day they take billy kimber down paulie praise they will see if the days still breathing campbell glenn join the company of a prostitute zang's ruffle grace visits the museum expecting to see him. She's instead met by sergeant matsu places. A letter in her hand calls her a hole and leaves. They'll charm the letter from campbell states that she's committed treason by sleeping with thomas shelby and that a father would be disgusted back in the brothel campbell gets rough rough with the young prostitutes seemingly ashamed immediately afterwards thomas araj zang's brothel cum launderette to collect suit and his informed campbell is there he ventures behind the scenes to see him campbell reveals meeting winston churchill that very day to be congratulated him retrieving the guns laughing. Thomas still has no idea how he found them. Toma toma suggesting a lucky to which campbell drops a pretty big bread crumb of a hin blindfolding thomas he will have his heart broken by the day's end. Just zero own waugh's polyolefins up to eight a how she had her own children celine michael taken away from it by place she tells eight it's forgive thomas and that's something she should know about today cut to freddie in his cell being told his to be a freeman seaman churchill meets with campbell stating. He's putting forward for the new year on his list. He asks about grace and whether she to deserves commendation campbell says she does when asked about the peaky blinders campbell states trials would be a bad idea and that he's got his own plans fordham that meeting thomas goes through his plan to dethrone kimba kimba they will head to worcester races under the premise of protection for kinsmen from the league clint instead though the blind is in the lease take him his men out as the meeting comes to a close polly opens a door and welcomes eder and a new baby call back into the family fold eighty three gives thomas for what happened to freddie on the road from the prison freddie spring by donnie whizbang whizbang much to his surprise as he thought he was dead at the garrison. Thomas tells gray she may be the next family meeting and comfortable she tries to explain about betrayal but is interrupted interrupted. When would arrives the bitty kinsmen route a frantic thompson polly realized grace's betrayed them as she was the new pos knew about the plan to hit kimba police stopped grace in the garrison and informs. They know who she is. Grace pulls a gun declaring herself. An agent of the crown. Only use force polly doesn't move polly paints a picture of who she believes grace to be resulting in greater offering her fistfight. Instead polly tells it to pull them both a drink. She lets us know that although thomas make sector into the family one solis says over she never will adding she caesar again she'll killer on the streets outside the peaky blinders prepared for a showdown thomas delivers a halt don't felt speech that they defend the garrison despite being outnumbered three to one that the police station sergeant moss's told by campbell offices nearby be stood down and the approaching vehicles it was bailout to pass kimble's men's dry down the street led by billy kimber himself thomas leads the blind is to meet them. Thomas says it doesn't have to be this way but but kimber is unwavering q. freddie striding out behind the group carrying the last mri machine got an embiid to even the playing field a tat the gang raise weapons in a standoff the tensions broken when i push baby call in his prime between the two groups. She tells everyone present. That'll have family waiting for after the bloodshed is over and to think about those people standing in no-man's-land. She declares she and a baby will not move came surprisingly admits she's rides. All these men should not die. It should only be those who have caused this. He pulls a pistol and shoots. Thomas putting a second bullet doney whizbang <unk> dashed forward to protect his friend as kimber offices menace celebrates your smile. Thomas steps forward raises pistol and puts a bullet into his head killing him. Everyone lowest guns as thomas declared the one on one battle is over grace visits campbell at the police station looking for answers campbell admits. He told thomas about her back the garrison. A bullet is pulled from mrs shoulder. Everyone stands over the body of danny whizbang raising a toast to him. The man who died i twice elsewhere solder. Moss breaks the news to campbell that kimber has been found dead and freddie thorne at escape thinks the peaky blinders he states that as the police were stood down that we know witnesses campbell remained silent. He laid to coach churchill declaring. He's made a decision about his future. Thomas visits grace's flat she asto. They're great tells him she's in love with him but his told there is no chance she hands him in addressing london and tells into joyner there when his business in birmingham is complete later the garrison thomas reveals to polly that it was easy for the leeman to take the pitches from kimber in worcester as his men were engaged here he has the shelby brothers ltd and now the third biggest legal racetrack abrasion in the country only shadowed by darby sabina alfred solomon's. Why could this beheading. Thomas pens a letter to grace revealing. He'll will give her decision about their future and three time at the station grace's met on the platform by kimbal. He pulled a pistol on a gunshot rings out and we cut up to black. Thanks for listening in hope. It's been helpful listen. If you've enjoyed this. I would love subscribe got loads more shows where this came from with lovey to joins a five star review review wherever you get your podcast from also be absolutely fantastic if you've got any feedback or ideas for show that we should be covering a luma suddenly be doing the big ones but you never know. Maybe there's that we've missed. Let us know i'd love to hear from you over on twitter. You can find his at previous podcast. We'll just emails. Hello previously dot co u._k. Previously previously presented by jamie miss deaf doors production. It's a new season. Antonio brown is on the raiders. Levin bell is with the jets odell. Beckham is in cleveland. Mybookie is the place to bet on football l. every weekend with better bonuses and more prop bets than any other sports book period and this season. 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Rons Haunted Garage
"The Ron burgundy podcast is a production of heart radio podcast network and funnier die a especial. Thanks to all three of our sponsors fair. Sharman and safe auto. Recently. I've been looking for ways to save money the podcast game doesn't pay out quite what I had anticipated. I've even had to sell off some of my finest Vilvorde suits to be Frank the tickets, I've been getting for uninsured driving are really piling up. So I signed up for safe auto and for the first time ever. I can now drive the streets of my beloved Santiago without being a criminal. It's a good feeling. Although the feeling of doing something wrong is also a good feeling. They're both good feelings. What am I talking about? I'm not in touch with my feelings at all, in fact, ignore everything I just said about feelings. Rumba any? This is Ron burgundy. You are listening to the Ron burgundy podcast. Today's topic is a lightning rod for so many people, and I have wanted to have a discussion on it for years. So I'm very excited today. We will have an enlightening and spirited debate on the subject of guys in the military. But before we dive in I want to alert our audience to technical situation, we are dealing with today for the past few weeks or so the podcast studio has been under construction. In fact, it has been turned into a crime scene while repairing some insulation workers discovered a human skull inside one of the walls, and as I know from experience anytime you discover human remains you must call the authorities. No exceptions, no matter how tempted you may be to collect human bones. Whether they be found in an antique trunk or storage unit or out on hike. You have to call the police or at least the ranger station. Not under any circumstances. Hold onto a skull that you found because you think it would make a cool paperweight in your study. I mean think about it that was someone's head for cripes sake. Anyway, since the studio has been closed we have been recording the podcast from my living room, which has been fine outside. The fact that the crew it's everything in my fridge and Dafur, I repeat never flushes. Adapt. Toilet disgusting. Well, today, we are having to accord this show for Mike Araj because my living room flooded last night. Yes, I forgot to turn off the bath tub again. So I just want to alert you listener that we have a location change. However, this will not affect the quality of the broadcast in any way. Thank you for indulging me with that extensive explanation. But I I feel I owe to you to display the utmost integrity about every facet of the broadcast run. Why are you whispering? I'm not whispering. I'm using what's referred to in the theater as a stage whisper, it is a more projected whisper, whatever why are you doing? We're why are you stage whispering just tried to protect my vocal chords since they are? They're currently inflamed. Yes. Yes. I haven't flamed vocal chords. You haven't flamed FOCA. Course, I have inflamed vocal chords. They're they are fully inflamed. I had a too much. Verity sauce on my car. Nita's burrito. Last night bird my vocal cords, and it gave me their Genelius. Okay. I don't believe you on. We spoke this morning in your voices fine. Trust me is bad large. Nita? I think your voices fine. Okay. Fine. You got me. You got me. Yeah. I don't I don't have laryngitis. Okay. Well, the reason why was whispering is because my garage where we are broadcasting from right now is on it. Mike Rogers haunted, and I was whispering. Because I'm afraid of waking goes there. I said it what a relief. Your garage is really haunted hundred percent absolutely haunted. I have seen things that will make your head spin. And why we had to do today's show at midnight is beyond me the show to later because you said you couldn't sleep last night and didn't get up until three pm. I didn't sleep because I was worried sick about the fact that we were going to record the show in my haunted garage. Just say you didn't want record in the garage because no one would believe me if I told them that the garage was haunted. Okay. Well, you could've just left that out and said the garage was too messy or something. Hold on. Hold on one second Carolina. Right. Of course on my street might trash removal is it night. I really can't think of a worse place or time. We've lobbied the city and how many petitions we put in front of their fat faces. It will listen to the taxpayer. So many trash cans on. It's just cruel to the garbage man that of course, our street. We still have old metal trash cans. We don't have the plastic once they make. That's why it's so this making so much noise. It's so much. The diesel smell. It comes right through that door. I'm just gonna breathe for me. Okay. Nick, we good now. Are you still hearing the trash? No. I think we're clear we would have recorded somewhere else. I wasn't thinking. Let's just do the show. And I'm sure it'll be fine. Okay, fine. Yeah. As long as the ice jackal doesn't show. We'll be right. Never mind. Okay. All right. When we think of the military. There is one issue that I feel is a non issue. You guessed it. I'm talking guys in the military. Why it comes up year after year is it Zossen? L friend. Pay. No, attention Carolina. Let's just keep doing the show. What you didn't hear that? You're what I'm gonna spank? Your fanny make your girlfriend watch. You will do. No such thing. You leave us alone. Did you not hear that? I'm not hearing anything is are you gonna go s-? Yes. And frankly, it's chilling. I'm glad you can't hear what the spirit is saying God, oh, we can do is continue. As I was saying, the military is one of our more evolved institution when it comes to race and gender equality. The military is working for the first baby with putting women in combat roles baby. No, I'm not on my baby. I am not going on ES your you might pay the REM not your baby stop. It is the ghosts saying that you're it's baby. Yes. In a chilling. I'm gonna put a diaper on uniqueness suck on my nipple. No, I won't. I won't do it. Especially not all night long. I'm gonna push in Strother never gonna compliment you on hope. Bacon. Plump you'll know wrote cooperate. I won't ride in a stroller. Okay. It's the coast going to push around a stroller now. Yes. But I won't do it. I'm going to take you on a slide in you're gonna go. We never voted joy the slide run if we just ignore it. Maybe it'll just go away. Carolina. You have no idea. He's telling me that he's going to push me around in a stroller. And then I guess take me to a park because he's going to he's going to take me on a slide. These all sound like really nice things to do. And I'm gonna go we maybe a fun activity, but I'm not a baby. Well, of course, not. But I mean, I don't know the chilling is it what's the put me on a slide? And let me is that the worst thing that could happen. It's not like he's trying to kill you or anything. Maybe just wants to have a fun day at the park keeps asking me if I'm his baby over and over again, it's hard. I mean, I never dealt with a situation like this before you can't hear him. Honestly. No, I the creepiest high pitched voice. Why did we do this admit I well, I wish you had woken up earlier the repeat him? I know because I couldn't didn't get enough sleep slept until three we just shouldn't have done it today. It's also just shag carpet in mostly pictures of you and my liver, Shirley, pinball machine, right Horner. Yeah. Just priceless. It's intense. Everyone in the crew keeps asking me how much I want for it. I'm like, there's no price. You can't name a price. I don't make those things anymore. Yeah. Penny Marshall in the other lady. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So if we just ignore it. It'll just go away. Yeah. Just sort of like ignoring bully at school. You know, sticks and stones. Yep. That's it. All right. Are you a why do you keep asking me if I'm your baby? Of course, I like trucks baby Electra like trucks, but I'm not your baby. No baby did not go, boo. Are you all my baby? One need to change your pants in public. You will not change pants public. The baby I'm not your baby baby grows up. Maybe wants to be a fireman. You're my baby. No to say, baby. And I promise I won't chin the ice jackal said the ice jackal is he sending an ice shackle. Not a is that he's my baby just say, Ron, wait. Wait, you can hear the ghosts? No. I honestly could hear it the whole time. I just wanted to see how it would play out. No, no, okay. Okay. Okay. I'm your baby there. I said it I knew my baby. No. Shirley pinball machine. You said you wouldn't sit him. Nothing. There's no telephone to defeat this creature. Don't look at too is the ice jackal ever went out quick. Let's take. Let's take a break out. Ron burgundy here. I know you're thinking a lot of stuff doesn't make sense in the world today. Cabbage for one is an unusual plant. It looks like a head of lettuce but weighs three times as much and tastes like socks where to jazz music, go. How come I've never been able to beat my dog Baxter in a game of checkers who decides? Which animals get to live where why are there? No elephants in California. Or no Bengal Tigers outside of Bengal cats. Eat fish and Fisher frayed of cat. So who's the guy who thought of a catfish? Do we really need twenty different types of mustard every month should have thirty days. Why does it have to be so confusing? Someone needs to explain to me the difference between the internet and radio the world is one big smoke field mystery as far as I can tell and nothing makes sense. But here's something that does safe auto the insurance company that never asked you to pay more than you have to. At least that makes sense. Hey, guys back for the run burgundy podcasts. It's just me and naked miles of the crew Ron ran out of the room. So we're just looking through the house for him right now. We're in his rec room. Of just to describe. It's a poster of Fawcett and shelties on the wall Atari game set up mostly a lot of animal hides some knives. Thrown into the wall sign that says no girls allowed, which is really mature. Maksim top one hundred list ripped out with Xs next some names, Ryan. I just this is a really unprofessional episode. And I apologize for that. Okay. Let's go this bedroom. This is a place. I promised my therapist. I would never go. Hi baxter. Okay. We're looking at a four poster bed mostly furs, some erotic Japanese art on the wall a mere on the ceiling inexplicably. There's a leather horse settle on the floor of his room. Let's just walked past that we don't really need to investigate. Ron. Is that Baxter? Ron. Is that? Okay. I think we got him. Run. Hey, buddy. Hates everyone. You look pretty in it right now. Yes. Your house is beautiful. Captured. The golden. Yes. Gone that. We'll have to just. Guys rundown in the market by couple of garlic will have to boil that. To the sunrise fell the early protective tell us. We can do that. We we'll send our underwear. That's okay. This is happened. And this happens to many people, maybe we just get dressed. I'm gonna pull some clothes. No, we have we have. So the whole crews here. Okay. All right. Okay. What what's just go? Let's leave him. He's taking a shower now. So let's go to the bedroom to record the rest of that. But let's just take another break. Folks, your friend Ron is obsessed with a catchy new GM and believe it or not it's from the fine folks over charman, I play the song all the time at cookouts and pool parties wherever and if it's okay with you. I'd like to share it with you now. So great. What? Sure, it's an ad. But that's also a boat. If I'd hit for me. It's right up there with jailhouse rock, or let's get physical from the musical missile gone. What I like most about this song? The message Sharman ultra soft is the best. And if anyone knows where I can get this on eight track. Please let me know imagine hitting the freeway with Sharman booties smile blasting out the speakers. That's how I roll. So pick up a roll of Sharman ultra soft. It's the T P that inspired this this summer. God. Welcome back to burgundy podcasts. Those of you that are still listening and haven't. Turn this off because it was so frightening. This is this is Ron burgundy approximately one hour ago, myself Carolina and our crew barely escaped from my garage to the guest room in our haste to save ourselves from the ice jackal received a gash above my right eye. But that is nothing compared to what could have happened if we had stayed in that forsaken room just walked out of the room. You're the one who rented the side of the door, you people foolishly strolled out of the room. Right. We had a Whitman stuff. Well, don't worry because we don't have to worry about that room ever again tomorrow morning. I will commence having my garage permanently sealed off from the outside world. I will have it. Cemented end because no one should have to live through that. Again. You're just gonna fill the garage of cement Philip full of cement, some no one no one can go in there again and experience. That awful awful demon. It'll be I don't know how long before I we'll be rid of the images of that crazed jackal caked in blood and ice. Some of us will be burdened for a lifetime. I mean, not some of I never saw or heard it. Yes on nothing. No one's on anything. No. It was just a weird garage. You felt it. No. You feel to cool presence. No. It's actually warm in there because there's no it was an eight foot ice jackal. Okay. Ron. I mean, no one saw anything. Denial is a much easier path to take when you've witness something beyond recognition. Something your soul will never process. All right. Maybe let's go. The fact check eight foot ice jackal made it no one sought. We can't really address that in the fact check. But. So for fact, check today, we did pretty well. You had you had learned Jarvis. By the way, under the circumstances. I don't see why you're putting me through fact check I just like to keep the podcast on track as much as we can. There's been still shaking legal is really on us. All right laryngitis. You said we had Laron ler Genelius now it's Lange Itis, which you didn't have which we talked about though, I didn't have it. Right. But when you do you'll know it's laryngitis if you do I pretty sure there is another condition called learn Geneva. So. May be more of like a psoriasis. Okay. I don't think it's the rises of the vocal chords letter Geneva's. I don't even know what that would look like, but no you'd have to do a probe inside your throat. Okay. That jackal is usually from a dry climate. Well, I know what I saw it was a jackal. It was an ice jackal whose caked, ice and blood. And it wasn't about get. It wasn't a big game cat wasn't a bear. It wasn't a hyena. It was a jackal. Okay. Okay. So great, Cindy Williams is the other is Shirley cracked. She's wonderful. She was my favorite. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm glad you have a pinball machine. How much did that run? You will bought it retail. Okay. Seventy five hundred bucks. Wow. Good to know. I hope you get that out of a grudge. Well, it's going to be sealed off. So that'll be that will be just a tomb. Ceiling my car in there as well. You should just take all this. I don't wanna go back in there. Okay. I'll give you the keys, would you mind? Backing it out. No problem, make you. Oh. And then you wanted to keep our subject today was supposed to be guys in the military -tary, which is once it's kind of a stupefy. Why isn't even an issue? I mean, you guys have been in the military since the beginning. And why people get so up in arms. Did you is this a typo was this supposed to be gays in the military? Yes. Oh, that was that confusion. Okay. Yeah. Guys in the middle guy in the military for a really long time. Yes. And that's why I was just like, okay. Well, I'm happy to talk about right? You know, me I want to tackle hard hitting topics. You've always been vital shy away from any of that stuff. And okay, so gays in the military, maybe for another episode. Maybe we'll yeah, we're a little emotionally. Depleted over here for now. Guys in the military. No big deal. They're already in the military, but gays in the military still a big issue. Well, yeah. I mean, don't ask don't tell that was repealed by the Obama administration. So now, you can say it. Yeah. Great is this dated topic a little bit? It sounds like it's dated topic. Maybe we should take. Let's take that off the the big dry erase board. Okay. And the end maybe that bestowed where you in courage women to vote for the first time that can go off to because we've had that. Right. Okay. Yeah. No. I know that. Okay. Great. Of course. I knew that. Yeah. We'll modern human. Here are my final thoughts. Whether you've seen a ghost or had to admit to a ghost that you are the ghost baby. There's only one thing that matters in life. And that's that. No one is going to stop to wipe your. You're just going to have to wipe your own with a smile. This is Ron burgundy saying, no one, and I repeat no one puts is jackal in the corner. Thank you for listening. I'm Ron burgundy Ryan burger deep. Stay tuned for seems for the next episode of the Ron burgundy podcast. Hi, folks, I'm Ron burgundy here to talk about Sharman toilet paper. Now, I love this product. But it's not the easiest thing to talk about. They say you shouldn't discuss going to the bathroom in an ad. But if you do do it hoops, okay? There's two dues here in the script. It sounds like I'm saying doodoo boy. Due to the middle of about about Sharman toilet Baber. I didn't mean to seriously that stuff happens sometimes even do the broS. But guys, we gotta get these scripts lockdown. Oh, gosh. Saying things on gingerly can be considered. Great fun. Okay. Right to get it. Get through the spot. The sponsor is really counting on us. Sharman the softest and strongest toilet paper on the market doodoo. Unbelievable on the next Ron burgundy podcast the note, you're handing me says today's topic is poetry, right? No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. This is actually exciting. You got Mr Peter Dinka JR. Yes. He's Chang's impersonal poetry. Holy. So okay. Let's just leave. Let's just leave the. Sound machine? Okay. The I thought with the flow. Science. I. Imagine with the poet you have it all it was more NPR that. Yeah. No exactly anything that was the that we going to go for today. So I think we're just gonna unplug the machine for a second totally unplugged. I've taken it off put it away. Okay. Great be reels from about about with his furry coat and his Ghazi wing now in a Cup. And now betting it just. Carolina. I I'm not going to say, I told you so but this poetry episode was never gonna work out. The Ron burgundy podcasts is a production of I heart radio podcast network. And funnier I'm Ron burgundy I'm the host writer and executive producer Carolina Barlow is my co host writer producer, the show is also produced by Whitney Hodak, Jack, O'Brien miles gray and Nick step. Our executive producer is Mike Farren are consulting producer is Andrew. Stevens are associated producer is on Aho's. Ni writer is Jacob our production. Supervisor is Colin macdougall. This episode was engineered mixed ended by Nick, stump CNN, Thursday on the Ron burgundy. I'm not a man that likes to play by the rules. A real wild guard a loose cannon. And when I was told that I was required to have car insurance. I was furious. But I called safe auto. There are different kind of insurance company. They don't confuse you with a bunch of stuff. You don't need, and they can get you insured and on the road about three minutes. Oops. I think I said three minutes instead of thirty minutes. Sorry. Oh, it is three minutes. Well, that seems impossible. Hey, it's their company. All right. Three minutes. Sounds like a lie. Edit the stuff out.
Crisis Conversations: The (Virtual?) Future of Medicine
"Welcome, everyone to another edition of crisis conversations live from the better life lab. Here we gather to share stories and try to understand as the pandemic and now widespread racial justice. Protests are unfolding across the country to try to understand what's happening, but also try to learn what's being exposed. That isn't working that we can learn from so today. We're going to be talking about the future of medicine really looking at telemedicine so excited that we have this amazing panel today. We've got Amanda Williams. WHO's an Obgyn and the physician maternity director for Kaiser Permanente and We've got lucy. McBride. She's a primary care physician who writes a daily newsletter on covid and physical and mental health, which is excellent and i. read it every day, and we've also got been Araj. She's an incoming assistant professor at the University of Illinois or banish campaign who researchers family caregiving and health and information technology. So I'd like to start with you. Amanda and I have to be perfectly honest. When I was first talking with Lucy and she said we really should do something on telemedicine and the future of medicine I just thought well. We look at work and care issues. We look at family as shoes gender equality equity across racing classes well. What does telemedicine have to deal with any of this? So let me turn it over to you Amanda and make the case. Why is this so critical for equity and work in? In Care Systems, this is a subject that is berry near, and dear to my heart. Both someone is committed to racial justice, and in particular with in the area of medicine and shrinking health disparities. It's my body of work, so what I'm doing is trying to redesign prenatal care for as a permanent in northern California where we deliver forty five thousand babies a year, so it's exciting we try to have. What are they? Cow Path moments in private and I'd like to think of this as one of them. Because we have to do more virtual care, prenatal care particular in women's health in general is a time when people come into the office a lot, so we have to ask ourselves what can be done remotely? What can't be done? And what are the factors that are impacting women's ability to have those appointments do they have broadband high speed Internet at their house. Do they have smartphones? do they have any place private to talk about? Their issues were very concerned about family violence, child abuse Yeah, in this era, also so there could be the risk associated with tele-medicine. Flip side there can be huge benefits. People don't have to take time off of work. They don't have to come in and commute and park. They don't have to find child care for their children. Even though China work and care of your children, your doctor of the same kind of tough, but we don't know which way this is point because we have to be really conscious every step of the way we're designing our care delivery in the telehealth space. What is the impact to be on a marginalized patients and the race and ethnic divide you staying with you Amanda? What do we know I? Mean it's it's. It's it's still a fairly new kind of thing right. So what do we know about how it impacts equity or patient, care or working family systems? Do we know much about it, or is it still so new? We don't know a whole lot yet. What we don't know a whole lot yet and in particular we don't know much about the race ethnicity side inside of Kaiser Permanente because we're closed system what we will know a lot because we do have that demographic data about our patients, and then in the maternal house based. We have no babies being born yet because this is all very new. So we don't know about our longer term. Outcomes with the key is as we're doing this design because Kobe is not going away tomorrow, we're going to really have to think about these systems. We have to keep that consciousness around. What is this point? Do in terms of Eray. So, let me turn to you, Lucy. This is something that we've had really some very interesting discussions about, and you've also had some incredibly intense experiences around telehealth and telemedicine during the pandemic, and not just around physical health, but also mental health. Can you talk a little bit more about that? Yes, as you know and many of your listeners now this is a mental health crisis as As, much as it is a physical health, prices Americans are suffering collectively with grief and loss and trauma to varying degrees, and so because our mental health effects, not only how he'll day today, but it directly affects medical outcomes. There's no shortage of data the show that are motion health, and our behavioral health, and of course, layered on top of that a social determinants of health. Effects are medical albums in very real ways. It's essential that primary care. Doctors and doctors in general understand that intersection. And for many people in the pandemic for my musicians. telehealth lifeline. Has as Dr, Williams said, it's not a panacea, not everyone has access to a smartphone or Internet access, but for people who need support physically and mentally is offered a new avenue. I think it's going to be here to stay. I don't think it's ever going to replace individual. One on one faced base care, and actually as Dr. Williams and I know the foundation of my work rotations the relationship, the relationship between patient is crucial, and so that is not going be replaced by virtual care hover. augments existing care for example I have a patient who lost her husband to Kobe during the pandemic. have been able to have the end of conversation. I did with that family from their home. Pre pandemic, because now we have these virtual platforms address. How are loosening regulations allowed visits to be paid for similar to what they would be in person, and then this patient of mine who is going through natural wraith and trauma, losing her husband on top of the pandemic, if able to for the first one axles agreed counselor remotely, and that is something that is not only important for her to. Feeling, but it's it's going to directly affect your medical outcomes, and that is what gives me hope for our future, we. What was that conversation like? You know a pre covert? How would that have gone? And how did that change? Or how was that? I was at different having to having to have such a such an intimate conversation over a kind of a technology platform. Well, it is interesting I mean first of all the patient who is at the end of his life could not have made it physically into my office. But I was able to have an hour long conversation with him on a virtual platform, and his family surrounded by his bedside and talk about very important decision making that pre pandemic. Wouldn't have been covered by insurance now. I probably would have had that conversation anyway, but you know doctors to get paid for their services and mental health providers need to get paid for their service and free. Corona virus insurance wouldn't reimburse for care wasn't face to face and for new incremental health issues. You had to have little morbidity so in other words. If you had an addiction I, Can Apple Addiction? Your therapists would only get paid if you also had diabetes. Those things need to change this change here on out. So I want to get to you in a minute, but Amanda if I can go back to you. Let's stay with that systems question. We've had this technology. You know we've had kind of the ability to connect virtually for some time, so has it really been an insurance issue that this hasn't really taken off before now well I will take a step back and say that I. Do work inside of Kaiser Permanent Day and so our. Models are different than in most of the fee for service. World but. Yes, part of the story is reimbursement, and then it's also familiarity and comfort both on a addition signed, and also on the issue as McBride knives off the about with existing patients people who you know, people, you have a relationship. The transition to virtual visits has been very smooth but for new patients. It's a little harder to make that connection nipping. That's why video is critically important because you'd get to see people's faces, you get to see their is. is their expressions actually highly suspected clamps? Yes, beer location of end of pregnancy on a video visit because I saw other, the pieces face was very swollen Oh. Wow, and it made me wonder you know. What is your blood pressure? What is going on about this fluid retention and so I brought her into the hospital for assessment when I was just doing a video visit at home. Wow, no Medicare has recently just said that they will start now, reimbursing or video. And so that's a big pair for us and for much of the country, and so I think that will helped shift the perspective, and then people are using it for their work. So as folks are more comfortable using distance work in general, they can then apply that with their health is now so let me turn over to you now. mcclatchy Raj. You've been doing some really interesting research it looking at this intersection of telemedicine, virtual care and family caregivers and aging populations. Can you tell us a little bit about your research and what you're finding particularly now in the pandemic, so my research has really driven by the fact that emily caregivers. Caregivers are becoming more involved in a wider scope of activities and intensity of those responsibilities for carrying especially for older adults They're increasingly involved in medication. Manage man, healthcare visits making decisions with or on behalf of their older relatives, and so my questions that I ask in my research. Are you know related to? How do we better involve family caregivers and integrate them into the healthcare setting so that we can alleviate what we've been calling caregiver burden. I think we call it burden, and it's really something negative, but I find an asking caregivers. What does it mean to be a caregiver that they actually see it as an honor, they see it as love. They see it as the right thing to do and so held information technology like telemedicine is a great opportunity to involve family caregivers. So how do. Do we make that happen. What are some of the policies that we need to put in place? And what are some of the practices that physicians and other clinicians may need to adapt you in order to invite a caregiver to a healthcare visit? What is that look like and so in the past few months I have fielded a survey statewide in. In Michigan to family caregivers of adults sixty, and over in a one story that stands out to me was You know she? She comes home from the grocery. Store is a caregiver for her partner and whites down the floor of the garage. Once he enters wiped on every item that she gets from the grocery store brings in Whitestone the entire house, all the floors in order to keep her partner safe. Well I also hear experiences of caregivers from different households that haven't been able to see their care recipient or their older relatives for months, and they have no idea what's going on and for them. Being able to participate in healthcare visits would be comforting and it would also help them. Zip and other practitioners to provide better care to their older relatives. You know I'm wondering. You know you're talking about the role of the family caregiver. We've also explored a home health, and so I'm wondering you know you talk about that. Caregiver burden once it moves into a virtual setting telemedicine setting. Does that make things easier or better I'm just thinking about my dad who was bedridden for so many years you know couldn't at. Do you know have to transport him? You know in a in an ambulance to get to the hospital So can you talk a little bit about kind of the tune ity than that that being able to connect virtually you know what are the benefits then for people who are trying to have care? Care at home, and how could family caregivers involved in that one of the biggest barriers to telemedicine is that their older relatives in a different household don't necessarily know how to use the technology, or they're frustrated by the fact that they can't establish a relationship with their doctor in the same way that they would, if they were able to go in person, and so I have a couple of caregivers who have driven one hundred and fifty miles to get to their relatives house in order to set up the technology. Wow, and and it's unclear after that on this that you know I wasn't really sure if I was invited to be a part of this healthcare visit Caregivers are likely to have an extended period of concern about transmitting the virus to their older relatives and I think they're likely to keep social or physical and distancing from their older relatives in order to keep their relatives safe. For that reason what we call, the digital divide might persist even longer so Amanda. Can you talk a little bit I? See you kind of shaking your head. Talk about the sort of this virtual experience in the. Of Space, so there's been lots of restrictions around the visitor. Policies and birth tends to be a time. That's immunity family engagement, and we've had to severely limit in New York actually for a while. There were no visitors at all, not even parts. That actually went away But we do now even on my own. A hospital system only have one person. allowed to be there and so people have to make that hard choice. Who Do I want my partner, my mother, my partner. Dula and you know I'm not gonNA, comment on right and wrong choices of in who might actually be helpful, but that's tough, and that's not what we want. That is not ideal for birth, but being able to engage be both through using a different technologies especially grandparents. In parents plump to be there, and they are the most at risk and so fine to have you know zoom set up in a prenatal appointment or doing face time. At the time of birth that the grandparents can get there. I think it definitely helps, but it's not ideal and for in the future, though for long distance relatives I think it's fantastic. We have the ability with our video visits to get a third person in, and so we use it for interpreters, but you can also use it for. My mother who lives in New Jersey, it'd be on at the same time as the pregnant patient. Partner, so it is a really nice opportunity for the future but we'll be able to have folks back in the. Absolutely I can't imagine how lonely that's got to be for so many patients who've had to go through such an incredible. You know life transitions like you say birth is so joyful, or in Lucy's case death. which is you know again an important time for families to come together? A very painful kind of way, but so important to have that community lucid. You were talking about the the importance of having some kind of like a medical home or a hub. Can you talk about what you mean by that? Sure I mean as you know, and it's nice to hear my fellow panelists, agreeing that that health care reform which held center stage before the pandemic is even more of an urgent issue. Now we're seeing. Seeing that the problems, the fragility and fragmented nature of our health system has been laid bare and so you know, of course, the wreckage on you know people's health and emotional health, and the economy is is huge, but we can also use this moment to re envision what healthcare should look like and you know. Telemedicine offers a wonderful potentially it's again. Not a fantasy offers this opportunity to meet people where they are I mean. Part of the problem with Primary Care Obgyn is care, pediatrics, primary care, which I am and Patrick's our primary care. They are the first line of defense for outpatients or people who are not hospitalize. People come to me I for their. You know everything from their heart, disease, diabetes and their depression. We need primate here to work for patients and patients need a medical home, a hub for problem solving, and not just keeping, and so if the home the medical home and there's no shortage of research on numerous studies have shown that states with a higher ratio primary care. Doctors tend to do better other countries that fire ties the integration of. Behavioral? S Social. Workers in pieces working together do better and save money. What I hope is that. Primary Care in in various areas of people's lives whether it's GonNa deatrich, or internal medicine will be a place where families can be a part of the decision making where social workers can be a part of the decision making, and where geriatric care manager to be a brother, the decision making us offers a way to great all those voices to best care for the patient I mean. And this is our moment. This is the moment to think about change to think about all the flaws and all the barriers people who need care from you know access to payment, but also you know just treating our whole person so many of my patients by the time they're eighty doctor for everybody now is talking to my job is really great, right? It's like you have a foot, doctor and arm doctor. Fungus doctor and my job is to integrate. Those people communicate with patient communicate with a family communicate with all the relevant stakeholders. And that's what here is I think before they get anything else with health care pharmacy. You GotTa think about what is care. What does it mean as really treating the whole person? And again you can never replace face to face interaction with a human being that is the foundation of our work, but if you can augment care by looping in other other people in that person's life, and we all have families and homes and lives and social determinants that very very importantly inform our our health and our health outcomes that need to in Amanda. You're saying that teams are essential. Yeah, I love that idea that we've got a specialists for every. Every body part when we talk about the future of medicine. What what kind of role does that play and that's really the direction think we need to go and Lucy certainly alluding to it, we aren't islets, so we need to have not just the position, but the physician then needs the associated health, educator or social worker or behavioral medicine specialist, so it's not just a gate ebbing to referrals. It's actually the ability to work as a collaborative team is see more of the whole patient so that you don't end up as she was saying a doctor for for everybody parts as opposed to what we need to fix their illness. Really big mental framework shift, but this might be a moment. Take advantage of where people are and shift our. I love that idea. Let me ask a question. We've got a question from Heather One of the participants she asked. Can you address how working family? Caregivers need different types of support from their own employers now and as we move through Cova, and what would you ask if employers to support their employees who are caregivers? That's a great question. I think Rosalyn. Carter said we're all some sort of caregiver. Point. We received care and at some point be care for someone else employers I. Think can begin to recognize that caregiving looks different. Depending on who you are or where you are, you might be advocating for your relative, or you might be helping with language if you're older relative. Relative or any adult relative receives a recommendation that they don't really understand because of a language barrier, and the other thing is to recognize that caregiver held is intertwined with care recipient help. Many of these family caregivers are so stressed physically mentally emotionally. We need to realize that their responsibilities as a caregiver often have implications for their own health. We're coming down on time, so I want to go to some closing thoughts, but I want to keep a couple of things in mind Lucy. You talked about we've you know this is a real? Easy. Amanda, you as as well that this is an opportunity to really redesign. Rethink not only how we think about care, but medicine and medical systems and I think we can't possibly talk about the future of work without talking about the fact that tens of millions of Americans have now lost their jobs, and as such because of our system tying healthcare, two jobs now are out of health insurance. So how can we move forward? Forward really redesigning health and medicine top to bottom and the other question. We've got from Zayas Julianne. Who is our wonderful program assistant? Get what role telemedicine play in addressing racial health disparities, and how can address some of the structural and social determinants and barriers that health outcomes so I know that's a that's a lot for closing thought, but you know we'd try to cram a lot into these half hour conversation so. Amanda icy laughing. You've got all the answers, so tell us where we go from here. So I talk about that for about half a day. I know. That's a little a little troubling but I would say this one when designing any kind of program or policy. Every single time. Ask Yourself, and that's a collective. You am I going to worsen. Health disparities across racial ethnic five. We know that they exist everything you do. Keep that in mind. Next to think about how telemedicine might be helpful. Though to be help, patients get set up if they don't have broadband Internet. Let them know where there is rewind Fi, you wanna lend somebody an IPAD for their pregnancy to get through their appointment if they don't have it, you want to provide blood pressure as opposed to hoping that they'll go by the pharmacy. think about what do we need to help? Facilitate, and then lastly, I hope that we all keep working on these racial justice issues even when they stopped trending on twitter. We work terribly hard. In this country to control diabetes control high blood pressure to get early prenatal care, because we know that it's associated with meal health outcome. This injustice is not just a political issue, our social issue. This is a public health crisis that kills. If our job as caretakers and has physicians to save lives, we must address. He'd be using that. Public Health land as we advocate that this is not talking politics at work. This is helping. People live their best lives. Which is what we're supposed to be playing Meena what are your thoughts? How do we move forward? I actually had exactly the same thoughts. Dr Williams not so eloquently said, but I think we really need to understand what these inequities look like, and where they're coming from and the upstream solutions to them we need to think of public health and healthcare, as as being handed hand and complementary, so lucy since this episode was brought on by our conversation initially I'm going to give you the last word. Okay? Wow, that's nice. My husband would love to hear someone else say that. I agree with what my other two panelists upset. I think that as a man is at the disparities along racial lines at along gender lines in the pandemic are atrocious, and yet this is not a new issue I'm talking to my black patients, and hearing about their distress over the statistics, and the fact that they have the the higher tendency to have the diabetes, high blood, pressure and heart disease that make them even at higher risk for negative outcomes from covid. So. Then you add on the trauma, they are experiencing have experienced again. Not just this was trending on twitter, but for for the since the beginning of time unfortunately and so my message is really and I hope for the future of medicine that mental health history co equal with physical health that we address the very real trauma that the black community is feeling right now that. that. People are feeling in general, but particularly the black community of course right now, and that we that conversation about trauma, acute and chronic, because it affects the very underlying conditions that he what higher risk for Covid, so we have a lot of work to do. We a lot of feeling away the layers of the onion to get it causes, and we need to address. Address. People in a holistic way all right well. We'll leave it there. There lots more to talk about lots more to fix, but thank you so much to Lucy McBride Amanda Williams. Mirage thank you so much for coming and being part of this discussion today. I WANNA thank new. America events team the better life lab team David Shannon our producer so We're going to take. Take a break next week, and then we'll be back with more episodes of crisis conversations where we're going to be exploring pregnancy discrimination much more about child care much more about how the next bailout should really focus on within communities of Color, so thank you so much for being part of this conversation. Wash your hands. Stay safe and we'll see you in two weeks.
Men in Blazers 02/03/20: Judge Ivor Bennett Special
"This is Rebecca Lowe will rebecca if you listen to sub optimal radio and you on this thing to men in Blazers on the NBC sports network. Aw you pulled version of Shakira Dave. My My Bowl J.. Lo is on vacation in a place without digital communication. So we're GonNa take something special today really special as we recover from last nights super bowl little hungover my Lord. The Game Somehow still magnificent even a Mike. Dean was not in it this podcast. It's really something that I've wanted a day for a long time. Conversation between me and my Dad Judge Iva as you know him really two-man demand who've watched invincible Liverpool and Phil victory after Victory Smile opponent after opponent and I found the whole thing and Oakdale. It's been psychologically. Psychologically emotionally physically so very hard to very grueling. Omay harder still when I discovered recently the my biography perfect. My Dad had told me that I come from a multigenerational line of unions. I found out I was slightly misinformed and then my dad has the kid used to watch baked Liverpool inevitable home games as was very common in the Post War British era and king claims so agonizingly close to pledging pledging himself and firstly unborn Raj to the Red Soit of Merseyside which would have made me completely different. Raj Araj the wins. More on that in a Mo- I A second ought to on the weekend that we all just survived the big game. Tell them hearts Petit Manchester the city. Now the three most charismatically powerful men in football collided PAP JOE say might dean to be honest list. I would have preferred if instead. Send the out there. Squads to play a game of football pep and Joe's aid just dropped gloves at the Center Circle Hockey goalies Battle of Alberta Style. I if you slap VAT on pay per view you would be printing money this game now. Pretty bloody good. It was like a fast and furious movie trailer. More than the football match city city tour at an idea. Respite has really told them apart. Penalties were maced crosses role which is in front of agonisingly close attacking feet beat shots not taken even though the goal was wide open right in front of them. Let's just say Manchester City's finishing probably best described as Chelsea. Ask Mike Deane side so hard to throw down the assist and then he just took to booking plans to increase his own camera time the most might Venus crap the ever Mike Dean and the game turned in the sixty first minute. When one of those yellows landed on a hapless in chiang-cho it was his second of the game and he was sent off? City not have thirteen shots. Before this moment spurs non to that point but I K- minutes later debutante Steven Burg wine plucked the ball. ooh Out of the air with his chest tattoos then smacked it into the far corner from the edge of the area his first show ever in Persia and I go. What a moment? What human joy muster surged through his veins? All of it proof that football is bonkers and wonderful whole city should have been two or three goals clan. They should have been somehow they were down. Kids will be doing the bug. Wine folded fingers face. Eliane school yards all northland than delirious moment a symbol of pure Merino ball spurs deep. Soak up the pressure then surgery as they did against Liverpool. And we'll say I still root botch La Celso. Chance as much as any spurs fan the end of that Liverpool Game Amazing Stat taught them of taking five shots against Manchester City this season and scored four goals city of had forty auty four shots forty four shots against spurs and found the back of the net just twice and so it goes facility this season there six loss us of the campaign. It's wild to watch them so sloppy and with thirteen games to go. No whiff of title chase no real chance of finishing anything but second. The scored seem bewildered. I mean they are built to Alpha's and it ceased to exist with so many games to play that are essentially dead rubbers trend to off road in a Lumbini PEP squad adjust not built for this purpose as gop at Robie. Elman summed. Up Pep has been rendered powerless without his hood. Again city with different prospect altogether. Yes they are thinking about. The role net broke in other games. Lester in Chelsea played out a two two drew white Manchester City Chelsea created chance after chance about taking them. I will say if some Caribbean starting for Chelsea fragment pods team would have been three nil up early but who needs a strike or when you got a Ruediger to and fantastic dunks from the German saved a point after some dodgy caballero walk around decision making it handed Leicester at two one lead Franklin Pot. God Love Him. Cutting frustrated Vega Ah made his displeasure pretty clear after the transfer window closed without bringing added firepower to his squad. Nokia Vani notaries. Mertens barely a smile to be seen on. Frank's lips the gap to faith now. Just four points with Manchester United and Spurs up next. I mentioned heated. They they continue to miss. Marcus Rush Vard's goals a zero zero draw with a suddenly shattered looking wolves. Rush beans decided to rehab his injury by wondering around around Miami at the Super Bowl new arrival Bruno Fernandez was a bright spark satellite for lovers of snuff videos. No sniff of shock desperation sewing thirty year old. Journeyman striker Donegal astonishing optics you were serviceable. A what a couple of seasons ago good enough for us. It's now further proof of a lack of strategy. The lies all above lagan socio now just signing players because that piano playing is of sufficient standard to pass muster on the transfer announcement video. It's all that matters also against Burnley another zero zero Snow Gonzaga Stats Manteaux. Mead captured the agony and ecstasy of Oslo's campaign that shield a thirty one points I'll lowest total ever at this stage of a premier league season. This is the tweet. Only runaway leaders has Liverpool of loss fewer primarily games and ask the list season only bottom two sides. What for the Norwich of one fewer primarily games arsenal this season? He's an abso season like nineteen seventies progr concept album and that concept is mid table mediocrity rounding out the Games of no huge wins for Sheffield United Sorry Fifth Play Sheffield United. Let's never normalize the length and breadth of that achievement. Magnificent they are less Crystal Palace Wall nail clean sheet of the season astonishing three huge points and breathing space for ball mirth. The Cherries Bonus. Board and fully anti Corona Virus Mass with the club's logo on them should be immediately relegated. In my opinion. I'll I'll be dealing with Everton's shocking ninety minutes. Glory and vague gesture towards happiness in a moment but first Liverpool at hoped that the loss of their magical cellist nice the game in hand would have to address the changing fortunes this week and takes with Dash. They didn't come to pass another game another dominant performance a four four nil homeward this one against Ralph Hampton their twentieth consecutive victory and field. Sometimes you can eat too much chocolate Jordan Henderson Henderson again. Magnificent this victory means at Liverpool of taken this is. This is unbelievable. This is a human nightmare. A hundred points for no last available. Two in the Premier League eight twenty two point lead the greatest lead of all time to me a livable primarily title it was meant to be the footballing equivalent. Villa Jorge Jara Martin. Six game of thrones book something that we all talked about someone we all yearn for million for it even though we all know. It's it's not really going to happen. The final whistle the COP. Sangu it going to win the League and win the League they will. The only suspense left now is not will they. They went but went. Many prognosticators are pointing to the data of March sixteenth. Twenty twenty the Merseyside Darby at Goodison Park Doc thought which is almost impossible for me. To Contemplate March sixteenth. My brother nights the reds birthday March sixteenth date. The men in Blazers have been scheduled for live television. Show right after the game. Unbearable Taylor thoughts of Everton's stopping Liverpool from winning the title at Goodison. We'll be the closest to get to winning a trophy themselves. Unless club chooses to fill these under-fives you feel powerless to stop it. This whole stream of thought to remind the well at first thought this undefeated season Liverpool wonder was woven from Reds Ed's fans collective dreams the fact that might clinch the title at Goodison Park proved the whole thing is actually being etched out of Everton fans. Dark has nightmares. It's it's the stuff of sadistic twisted horror that even Eli Roth couldn't invent all the way to begets question. Look I was born and bred in Liverpool the time when Liverpool Football Club with the best team in the world the late seventies and eighties they won league titles European Trophies Cup up of the Cup by routine right they used to parade them right at the end of my rate at the end of every season on an open top bus. How how how to become a believe how they fe maybe what the theme endless hope thirsty for glory that was forever out of reach? Happiness itself a footballing job. A human who's greatest joy was at Liverpool so weren't winning. The League sad had a joy which has now turned into ashes in my mouth as whole Jiafu peas. Now I've always thought I came from three generations of proud of Italians for we told myself my granddad was a blue. My Dad was a play. I'm a play heads. My kids will all be similarly blighted with the blue mark of Cain but the truth is like all familiar stories. That's be honest this one turns out to be a bit more complicated and there's Liverpool real off this season of unprecedented wonder and the title along coveted within touching distance. I Sat with my Dad Judge Roy and asked him how we did. Our family become Evertonians in the first place. Brace yourself so you can revel in in some sitting here and say that I always through the I was in emphasis fan. You inevitably firm. My grandfather was nafta fluid in our blood and then recently I found out a very different telling the truth. Shocked me to my core. Just tell me the story of how you became evident fund and I was born in Nineteen thirty seven. When I first got interested in football this would be in in the nineteen forty s when I would be probably about nine the Games then non television? There's very few televisions. In fact it didn't have a television station was close enough to Liverpool until nineteen fifty. I just relied on and reports. I always took the local newspaper. which was the Liverpool echo instill going and but they used on a Saturday night to produce a pink copy with all the football results in because it wasn't on television because of entertainment people would go and what Jefferson one we and people would go watch Liverpool the next week it was very commons ago and support both teams when they're in town? That's right who didn't get the rivalry which is intense nowadays so you go up in this football month. Place teams are a popular you kind of leaning towards Liverpool Way and. Tell me what happens. One day. I happened to be in a road. Call Smith's this down road in Liverpool and there was a shop called basketball comes busting sold a lot of cheap stuff. It sold older loss of secondhand used comics to particular Mama's the wizard and the other was the hotspur yet. Ed Mighty every English child. Laser still sells a lot of crap. But Yeah Young Kid and emporium of wonder absolutely name Him Walk Young that window and they had a badge of football woah with a red shirt and white shorts and I thought that would be lovely to have and live so I went into the shop. I said could I buy that by Jin the window and the man behind the counter said. I'm sorry that is for display a that not for sale so I said do not have anything and he said well I can offer you this and he showed me a similar. Ah Badge blue. Sure this part of the story I come believe it and I thought to myself. I've got have football. ooh Banja can't leave the show without wall. So you've been drawn into this show because of the Red Liverpool affiliated bags with cement your relationship for football club you get the bad news. They sold out. They only have the one in the wind day but he offers you one of copious supply Everton badges. He has maybe a more mature child would have said so remade. When will you became more in? But you said got to be be now going to be satisfied here and they're absolutely and you said what did he say. So I said well okay. Ah I was a simple child but I thought well I'll have the blue badge. Judge on my jumper fell fantastic land. I was a blue no longer a red one important day. This is in you know from these are so you walk in you and your little parachutes you school cap on your breast for the first time. Is he blew of Everton. Did you feel that you walk a little taller. Not Defillo I tell me life. Everything Falls Mickley right with the world. I just found I have a football budgen. It happens to be blue do so. Of course the simple Everson. Yeah I think you feel good if I say it was a po- of you that loved you wish. Maybe it was red now. I decided I would have a chain mish blue shirt yen ball on my jumper. I've got to support EPA so from that point on you again evidence season-ticket season ticket. You go watch the blues. I started to go sometimes the friend sometimes on my own in those days. It's quite right safe to go because the football supporters will always always very generous in the to help their assistance one of my favorite stories. The lab after look after one of our favorite stories of yours is when he used to go when you in legal training meaning and you take the handkerchief we're gonNA wear for the week ahead in your breast pocket and the crowds will be so dense so patently crescent perfectly. I can remember birth when you talk about being pressed going with a friend of mine called Alstom and we went to watch Britain and I watched from the gladys this street and I stood there. Were Seventy two thousand at this match so he says a wonderful teams teams full players. You Watch the Holy Trinity You Watch Kendall and my idol was an Everton. Goalkeeper called Ted Sega. A legend ginned S. A. G. Ted. Sega always loved to see him home for me to believe now Latchford score thirty hold on mom. Aw Mom mom just picking you up. Can you just give me two minutes and then I will be in in everyone. I keep picking you up on. I love you you even with me Bob. Latchford score thirty goals we saw titles were together. Yes we've seen a lot of darkness August despondency. We've had a lot of long winters. Yes that we thought would never end had loaned the times when I could not find the friend. And here's what one I if in your news agent if in the emporium bus if you baskin's and you'd said can I have a red badge and the mannered said shoe and up a Liverpool Fan Do you ever think about that. It's all a matter of fate and depending on the type of person you were okay. I was a kid I needed to have something thing now. I didn't want to be waiting. I didn't WanNA wallow skinny questions. I came in for Red Football Badge a a window with a blue one. You went out with a different way of living at different set beliefs. A different outlook on life with Tabu person. Unwittingly do you ever think how life would have been different if he had made take the red pin from the window. You won't be a Liverpool Fan you you would watch dog leash you would Keegan. You would've thought Ian Rush. You would have watched Luis Suarez Light. What Louis Shari's he would have been sad goi-? DVD slept with a broken. Your heart instead of made you laugh you also would have won things. We would have won the league title after the title in the nineteen the seventies and eighties. You would have one champions. The watched Istanbul and it would have been one of the great days if you live as opposed to just the normal. What was it Wednesday? Do you ever think how life would have been different. If you were a Liverpool Fan. I look at life. It's as a matter of fate. There are certain things that happen and may be strange. They may make you want to do something or something may arise Where you do change your allegiance your interest your pursuit a do look life and saying Oh? If I hadn't hadn't done that it must have been such and such or because I did this. That's what happened to me because I think if I was a Liverpool Dan. I think it'd be a completely different person. Because of that badge I am who I am the badge that did work out with. It's a rude not taken. I do often think if I was a little. I think it'd be unbearable that well Roger F I have caused you to be a supporter supporter of what's now the moment. Anyway I hope it will change when the winner sadly kind. Yeah I'm when I like to say what's the other would for a non winner. I hate that if you if you made me the support of a winner. That's it but then you know you have to pantalone in life you always have everything on. The plate gives golden go to struggle sometimes and you get real greatest his faction when you've had to struggle and get the result that makes you you happy. I couldn't agree more by the way being Everton. Fan is not just an allegiance to a team but it is an approach to life. Which is why you walking out with badge the blue badge and other red badges just a quirk of fate but is one? That's been so definitive. My life being evident fan is to teach you. The the life is an incredible grinding brutal challenge life is nasty brutal insured suffering. Israel does a tenacity timothy in the face of the stool. And when you do have a brief happy moment score a goal against Leicester City you have to sell the pay them and seize upon them if life is just one easy way you do not appreciate the times when things go well. I think supporting Everton is a lesson in life. We appreciate. Those moments are sadly moments. But you know I just wonder now if you supporting a team that wins every week every we feel sorry for your comes in the boreal. Sorry yeah I'd like to work out things. I'm still working hard a supporting Everton. We suffer but then we appreciate those moments. I'm still waiting for a few of them but we appreciate that and yes I do look back and say. Isn't it strange. That's how I became became an Evertonian but in fairness I have stayed true to them ever since announce what seventy years of suffering all moment to help it. Ed Thanks Dad and if you want more of 'em checkout visit Britain series. It's on twitter and instagram. Right now. Loss we debuted an episode of Premier League weekend to electric boo blue content content in which my dad judge. I've the man you've just listened to took a ferry cross the Mersey with me and discuss all great about the city of Liverpool city. He loves more than anyone neck. And today we released my visit to the Sulfate Lads Club conic institution that's been at the center of Manchester's chested music seed. And that was the setting for the Smith album cover image for the queen is dead shakeups favor I can tell you. My Dad was in Giddy form this weekend of shock. Three T win at Walford shot. Well I because it was a win but more than that a combat with Everton grinding their way lower having gone to kneel down with ten men and Theo Bloody Wolcott scoring a ninetieth minute winner. What is this world twister D- Jeff? APN Jacob Pastor Eighteen tweeted. I'm used to giving away a two nil lead seconds and I'm not sure what to do right now being the team. That does it to someone else. You weren't alone. Jacob Happiness and Everton or in Congress this is Bill Belichick and grunk speech party. I'm worried now to be honest. We just use up a whole season's allotment of joy and the course of one game probably really a chunk of next season's too but this is a win that proves anything in life is possible to be honest difficult and football can actually make you feel happy. My moment of the match day was when Walford fans sang in the second half. We told you eat crap we told you he's Crap Marco Silva Uh we told you ease crap and the efforts and funds clap back in agreement it was just reassuring that in these polarize division that human beings can still come together and unite around some basic truths. That's it for the men in Blazers. Judge Iva Bennett special. Have you enjoyed it as much as I genuinely. Love making this show. It's fascinating when you find out a new truth that the stories you tell yourself about yourself not what you want so we will be back with a regular pod next week and a few other pieces of men in Blazers News Alex Caruso special special fresh that MBA here. He's Manchester City remarkable human being. We delayed the show respect to the Lakers in their time of mourning. It's now airing Friday February fourteenth at five PM Eastern time on NBC. To be on this. 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Claire Varley and Bridie Jabour
"Thanks for downloading a podcast. Three CR is an independent community radio station based in Melbourne, Australia. We need your financial support to keep going, go to WWW dot three, CR dot org dot you for more information and to donate online. Now, stay tuned for your three Sierra podcast. Another week. Another show. Another author. I don't get to ask a general question. Do you write a diary? Not really not regularly. Well, now I do, and sometimes it's just about what I did in the day. Sometimes people I made, but I don't put in too much of that emotional stuff. So you know, how truthful can you be in Dari? Clare valley has a number of characters writing about themselves in the book of ordinary people? Well, combat Clint been a couple of years. It has. He's nine months for having me. I'm very happy to be okay. We'll these people to writing about themselves rather than the traditional written Dari. What are the other ways people can write about bad ourselves these days? And I think it comes very much through debate. What does he do? So day-by-day. Like a lot of people. He has a back and forth Amol relationship with one of his friends who have you. He's growing up. We then is living on the other side of the world, and they share with each other, what they're doing and all their milestones in line honesty about those. And it's a very carefully curated version of his life that that he talks about with his friend because it's the the version that he thinks he should be telling them, then. Well, then perhaps not completely honest, but there are times we have to, will he go tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing, but the truth, that's a different type of honesty. Absolutely. And I think I'm, you know, the idea of truth or the truth that that we can tell about our selves is a really fascinating ID because at the end of the day, the version of ourselves that we put out into the world is is often the version that that we want people to know about. So it might be our truth and, but it's also our truth then in there when we rining and with all the baggage around how we'd like people to put save us. Yeah. And then it's how we, how we perceive ourselves, isn't it? Because sometimes telling the truth can do so much hurt to ourselves that would prefer to not. Absolutely. And I often think about the fact that you know many of us when we were angsty teenage is right out diaries and the diaries that we wrote were full of our. Promotions and how people didn't understand us and how we were meant for these great things. But the world was tying down and then you know, many years later when you come back to them, there's there's the sense of harassment or you know, you just want to give yourself a giant katelyn and have a good hot talk about about the world. So it's fascinating how how we see ourselves, but how that changes over time. So as an individual, we learned to road distort truth for particular raider. But this does this happen when someone is telling the story of someone else. I think it's such an important thing for us to keep him on. When we tell other people stories because you know, no matter how much research we do about other people or how much we engage with them. At the end of the day, if you're telling someone else's star, it still you who's telling it, so you'll still deciding how you frame it all what you put in and what you don't put in. And there are so many ways. You know, you can do that in a way that that responsible. Respectful, but, but you still riding it from your from your standpoint. So I think it's a really interesting thing to to look at in fiction in particular around how how people right are the characters Dory's how people want their stories to be told. And the tensions that sometimes come up and the emotion that somebody puts Araj puts into somebody else's life. You know, if it's a purse, if you know the person like and you're rotting memoir, that's quite different to a journalist who doesn't know you, but once the story, but once the person. Absolutely absolutely. And at the end of the day, every time anybody seats down to write about someone, they doing it for a raisin and and there's something that I wanna say, oh, do with their writing. So so that intention is also always sitting behind how we tell stories and and how we frame PayPal and the emotions that we include all the empathy that we try and build. Sorry. To build a real person which have fiction writer, does you have to use those skills? And Clave is just on repeat in the book of ordinary people every morning. Look, we get up to traffic reports, so a gridlock in suburban Melbourne is not out of the question, but it gives them moment in time for you to introduce five characters in this book as different as anything, but they all share a sort of similarity because they all leave in an area. Absolutely. And you know, I think familiar in particular, we naar how we may be very different people from very different walks of life, but it does a traffic jam and we're all stuck in it. That's that binding us together. All right. So this has been the pri- log of the book. He they are these unremarkable strangers court in a moment of steps before the everyday continues. Evangelina chorus sits in her car stuck in reservoirs high straight children, bickering from the backseat about trivial nonce and and a head pounding with the promise of a headache. She watches a woman attempt to escape the traffic zigzagging little hatchback in one hundred point ten that bumps in grades as apoe the curb nearby bumper and Evangeline mutters under her breath in the Clifton hill pool debut on old swims. He'd regular morning labs. He's head in the clouds and he's hot and his mouth oblivious to both the traffic jam around him and the ting ting ting of the increasing the front straighted ticks from us increasingly frustrated what who were the first period Ye nine. He streak laws and the child to dealing. These Kasey we'll twice be light. This blustering leafy morning on the south meringue line. Ida Abadi has tissue into a thousand pieces. Somewhere between Thomas town and Layla anxious. She will miss her appointment with had casework and have to. I now the procession of weeks for the next each pace. Forget it self as piles onto her lap. She is waiting always waiting in his boxy Thornberry apartment. The failed hack pulls the blanket over his head to drown out the angry horns bleeding from the street outside and turns to the wall wide eyed and weary from yet another night on slept and influ resident lit, CB office, bright eyed and copied Nelson's had missed the entire thing because she's been here since seven thirty. Tapping away at cable as another day begins its cruel towards the end time passes emergency response vehicles. We've toward the freeway and the north has no choice, but to white white. That's what a lot of them have to do is white. So that was the pro prologue in power. One of the book we learned that they'll all writing about themselves or others. For purpose while we started with evangelism do not. So what's her reason very Bengali I is. She wants to write her her mother story. She is in the midst of the period of mourning to him, others pasta away, and she she wants to tell him this story because she, she feels that it's an important story to tell, but she just can't work out how to tell it because like many women mother was pot all the generation who migrated to astrology from from Europe, who who spent her life surrounded by caring for her family and Hyman who community in Lear struggling to to work out what parts of the story are exceptional, or extrordinary or twenty. She's doing all of this, but and we'll incomplete contrast. It Nells writing. Now. She's she's at atop rod of ETA capable very early in the morning. Making her legal notes, more readable and her job. So Nell is a young lawyer who is working in a commercial law firm in the city. It's her first job end and she's finding that she's battling with. With how you work within the legal as world of how things need to be framed. Like, I love this. She came across this word, hygienic regulation, and she said, it doesn't really describe one child urinating at the top of a of a slide, causing another one to sleep. It's all of this. So that all writing for one purpose or another part, two of the book sets up the weird and wonderful connections between these people. The law firm does some pro Bono work while Nells mother, Carol decides to teach a writing course on biography published book is looking for women in history who history has inaudible and this all of this wonderful connections. And then Ida goes to work at eventually, there's husbands shop and just how you've got them connected and wreak gets a TV job on a story. Now he is something that's happened to his loss story. That's that's driven human depression. But this whole story also goes very wrong too. So catastrophe, eight thousand and you know, I was really interested in this idea of how we can take all these characters who have very, very different people who are living. Thing in very close proximity in one geographic area an but have very, very different things going on for them, but also showing how their lives intersecting connect in little ways and in big ways. Any intentional. Why is an unintentional wise? And then we get the next part of why they don't want to talk. You know, Ida doesn't want to talk about who background she and Evangelina doesn't want to talk to assist because no sisters sort of doing the cultural thing with with and she wants to do the traditional thing. Although his sister seems to be doing beta at least her children, dancing Greek and playing the best Luca, but not her and just this subsume many things going wrong until you give us the complete story of Madeline and that emotional break-up in they marriage, that was just that was hot, felt that was terrible. It was. And I think you know one of the things in we talked about this earlier, but with the challenge of stories that in telling people stories is that you know, we're all very complex whole people who have so many different dimensions and often the stories that we pull out about people, the whatever purpose we're telling them. So whether eats in, you know, in a newspaper report or television report, or whether it's legal document that needs to capture somebody's story in a very legalistic way, all those things limit how much we can actually put people's full identity into a story and the impact that can have on the people who who you're telling the story about, because you need to pigeonhole them into a particular version of themselves to get across whatever it is you're trying to tell people and that can be really damaging frustrating for people that that the version of himself that's out in the world. And especially if they don't look like a victim. Absolutely. And you know, I worked in the community sector for a very long time. You know what? In the family violence sick done the volunteer women sector. And you know, one of the things that he's really difficult for us is we had these ideas about what a victim looks like or what it perpetrate. It looks like, and it can be really, really difficult because that doesn't necessarily match up with with the complexity of who we are as people who who moved through the world and can be really challenging full papal who who have experienced something because the expectation is that as a victim, you're gonna look a certain way and you're going to act a certain way and your behavior is going to to feed us in patent, and you know, you're going to be grateful for the support you receive, and you know you're going to be humble, Oko quiet, oh, you're going to evacuate innocent and why. And we know that that that not the reality of of how people work and Thurs I d. As of trying to force people into a particular mode can be started damaging. And you know, we know from the media that he can have, you know, really, really be great. The cautions, the paper and a lot of backlash well with one of the Sodom Seca we see that because she she wants to give them a big story. And of course, then that backfires on her which is just so sad, I absolutely must happen. And of course, Ida story starts with her writing about her pass because she studied journalism in Iran and she has got the most beautiful family stories. So you think, why is she here and the rest of a family back in Iran, so she doesn't want to tell her story at all. Anyway, we finally get a lot of it as well as we as Persian fairy stories, and we get dragons and and they confusion about tooth varies. It's just lovely. Look, I just thought this this story Claire Vollers story has interconnected five strangers in the book of ordinary people who by telling hearing their own or other stories, they learn more about themselves. Just a fabulous rate. Fabius Feb gets as well as the last book you in here the bidding between which also hear you talking about how to write biography and you're not, but you've got characters doing it. There you're talking about the problems of rushing and book, and I still love this quote from Oliver from your previous book. He wanted this book to be everything, a brilliant, literary masterpiece, a commercial success. Comedy tragedy. An instant classic though on days like today, he just would just settle foot finished or even started. It is, sorry, difficult to write stories and compelling story in Clave Ali, I just congratulate you on this one. This is a lovely book. Put this one. Dan raiders out there is a very, very good. To raid your, go around the world with it, and you finish back in Melbourne, possibly the Melbourne Cup. We'll loyal. It's a prerecord Brady Jabbour and her book was the way things should be, which was about family. And this family is gathering for a wedding and the chaos that ensues as a perfect family. Well, in raiding Brighty Jabbour novel, the white things should be. You will come across a perfect storm of dysfunction. That for many families is quite normal. So Brighty welcome to three c- crazy to be here. We do have a perfect storm here. One of the daughters, Claudia is the perfectly average age to do such a perfectly everage thing. What is Claudia? In fact, contemplating. He married and he's not just contemplating marriage. Actually, he's go, he's going to get married. She's supposed to be getting married. A wake. The book starts off at the the wake before marriage, and here turns to at her town for it, and her siblings all serve return. And so they the load of regression at a perfect storm of chaos as you mentioned before, but there's also a lot of questions that she's still having about marriage despite at army bane a few days away. Raises that whole notion of tradition. So it is traditional for families to meet but also the contemporary world about how we look at marriage and so and Thibout with a marriage has a place in the contemporary world. That's certainly one of the issues that I support in the book that why are people still getting married in two thousand seventy two thousand eighteen. You know, we can leave without hotness with my judgment. That's very easy. You can be legally recognized someone's of his uncle. His aren't would be just anymore. A lot of us, especially millennials have grown up with parents who have we'd up, they've divorced. And so I thought it was a very interesting question to be exploring about the spot all of these marriage rights to quite solid, the fresh views. It's almost subversive. Certainly, Claudia wants to be that it's almost see for her to be getting married that to put your face in someone to put your faith in an institution, but it's gonna work out despite everything else going on in the well, despite the thing stacked against you for it to end in divorce, despite the world, Bain, maybe on the brink of a nuclear will be darned. If no nuclear role in climate change might be destroying the world to get married supreme MAC of optimism and is Claudia likes to think he could be quite severity, but is it? Is it a radical thing. You've got all of these personalities involved. There's Rachel despite being in her sixties, Rachel remained a very attractive woman. What is Rachel's idea of motherly assistance weren't right. You're struggling leaks is the fep in agrarian up and they evolved and he hasn't quite a vote with an she skill wants them to see cook commission thinks and despite them all being in the mid to late twenties, she he works into Oscar from we should before they do things, and she wants to tell them what to do and she wants him to bus around basically do what she wants, which isn't the way most don't relate to their parents and a healthy way. But I also think that it's quite a normal thing. So I think there is a struggle they to let are and let your child be there in person. It's definitely a struggled at right to his having again in the contemporary world, parents are living longer, shall we say. And therefore still facing this struggle of Wendy, let the children go. And for that matter, children are staying home longer. Let's not exactly copied in my book, but another very interesting issue about growing up in the noughties is that you can still be leaving with your parents and be fully realized adult. So how is it relationship meant to then because they can't really be telling you what to do or expect to be giving you permission to set an ethics of your life, but you are still living under the roof. So I guess I whole other dimension to the struggle of how to deal with you. I don't get it and how to parent your adult children. 'cause I don't think anyone ever still parenting Mitchell. Adult children in this story is Zoe is always stood outside of the door and raised a fist when she put it back down. Again, a casual observer would see an expensive looking woman trying to convince us off to knock on a loves door. Zoe had the right clothes to be sophisticated, but something wasn't quite right. She wanted talion brogues handmade litter, beautiful. But she wore them because she had seen Amal Clooney wearing a pair in a pepperoni shot. An admittedly bought them online despite the fact that they were four hundred dollars. Exactly has a problem that he is. I think that she's like an many other insecure limited there will he's still trying to figure out who she is. She's figuring out here. She is apart from her family, and she's tried very hard to put distance, but physical and emotional between herself and her family, and he's being dragged back into it by being brought hard for the week before the wedding. So that's sort of the conflict that tees having in the story how she keeps trying to be herself and they earn person while also returning to a place where her whole identity is Iman by her relationships with other people informing era identity on leaving home. We simply conform to another set of expectations in many ways. What upon us by society. Exactly. And so you, you can leave Ramat thing that you'll find in your in Ryan. You know, I'm not so oldest anymore, and I'm not so his daughter anymore just by aren't person, but I really, I person. Or are you just the person that has been projected on. Hugh by the media, so she'll made your into Tiki lie, and she's still very much figuring that we have fins will the brother. He takes the keys to his mother's BMW if she really didn't want me to take the car, I want to drive, she would have slept with those under the pillow. So he's an undercurrent working through the story, and you've also got puppy, and I found puppy to be one of the more complex characters in many ways. Struggling with her identity much more than the other things we have had had to because she's a queer woman. She's also the youngest. She's very baby by everyone, and you know the things of monies to get jobs, and you know, to degrade making their way in the world and she is practically, she's feeling very stock like she's treading water. You know, he's being asked to do internships for free. She can't find fulltime work. He's still gigging. And on top of all of that, he struggling to mental health issues as well is raised. Here is popey as you say, she had a bachelor's degree and was owning three dollars more an ad than she had when she was nineteen years old and scanning groceries at the checkout. She was slightly comforted that none of her high school nights was doing much better than everyone had a shitty job, and it's the whole modern era where we've got very well qualified graduates, but they can't find work. Yeah, it's a casualization. Of the workforce, but it's also it's technology evolve the and very brought to us. It's also about jobs being lost in the because why? What's taking my role or technologies taking over as an aide, fuel people. And what sort of had a collision of these two things for the United generation where most of workers, right? By also using a lot of jobs and property, he's very much of the generation that he's bearing the brunt of that, and it's very, it's very much not an uncommon story and also then being accepted in your family with that new role, but you have to lead in society. So what you've got here is a very amusing situation, a very traditional situation with families coming back together, you add to the hilarity or the the humor. If it is such because Claudia's best friend, Nora, who's not kind of be the maid of honor because Claudia doesn't want to mind on. Has just broken up with her boyfriend, but you've got George Claudia's father separated from Rachel, but he's not talking to his brother meek, but Mary is Rachel. Sister is dieting, meek, Georgia's brother, and so you've got all of these potential this potential chaos emerging. Are they all going to meet at the wedding? Exactly. Eight kindling for the fry. It sounds like there was a little going on there is a lot going on, but it you said at the beginning, it's a lot of dysfunction that's actually quite normal for a lot of families, but then that whole land of the social roles, like what pulpy is facing, which perhaps the greatest challenge of knowing what to do in society, how to play, you'll roll today. Our relationship speech about, you know, especially fame, female relationships. Our relationships with that sisters are relationships that mothers relationships, daughters, and related to that best friends. It's also about how we relate to each other and regression. We go back to our town and we'll be forced to be without family again. But certainly the next layer in the book is it's about millennials and how millennials are leaving today and how they of finding their identity today and what the world looks like for them and how they think it should particularly when they're approaching a nightmare. All these kinds renaming too, late twenties thirties, not far away, and I'm sure they will have an ID when they were younger. They live with book like it thirty. And so none of them. It's not turning out the way at all. I just think that changing side quickly around them. One of the last points I wanted to touch on, he used the style. You actually have text messages sent to each other. But one thing I do want to do, he's read chapter twenty four. Rachel walked into the living room where her sister was sprawled across the ridiculous green velvet couch, ridiculous and fantastic. She load book one one stocking leg over the side. So she could have sit up something to redo Mary said she propped herself up on her elbow and thumbed through the book, Rachel, goodbye, get Helen Ghana's name on the front. Here. It is a crime novelist spoke at a conference about the unsuitability of his usual sardonic tone for the war story. He was trying to write about young men with their stomachs torn open who cry all night for their mothers and then die. An old man told me after he had been heart surgery, but he award full of other men. He's age woke in the dark from hideous nightmares, screaming for them. Others I have never read or heard of a woman in extremists who called for her mother, Rachel walked out of the room. Now that's an entire chapter. What are you doing here? Don't you think it's a very. Don't you think it's a very caring sane or Josh. Josh, I, I, there's so much that goes on in that same about right through. Right through sister is doing to her very telling sane in the in the common tree, you're providing about social roles and attitudes and you've just sort of put it in there as an observation rather than necessarily a narrative drive to the plot. It's an observation in many ways, which is so true it is, and I think it says a lot about, you know, it was very short chapter that I didn't wanna put that those lines in the middle of Inaba chapter because I thought it stood align itself. It tells us something about how these relate to each other and the world one can be quite cool, yada everything but also has. No, he's been stuck spots. What's is he knows how to her stuff as most of us know how to hurt out. This also provides a nuance in terms of what were talking about before into hymns of what roles we play and what the expectations are and how women were late today, mothers. Whoa, and motherhood as a lot going on in that chapter about motherhood about how daughters relaxed, they've bothered, but also how mothers feel about their daughters, particularly grow older and perhaps they losing control and even relevance as well. The question reminds does Claudia. In fact, it married readers will have to investigate for themselves by reading the way things should be, and it's a release from echo publishing. So Brady, thank you very much for talking with me today. Will there you go Jan another couple of books in another couple of raise and guess what's going to happen next, wait another couple of books. Another couple. We're pretty happy here. We are all the time. Well, I was talking with Klay Bali in her book, the book of ordinary people by Penn McMillan astray. Odd, talk to Brandi Jabbour about her novel. The way things should be.
"Welcome to the Polly gun show. I'm smooth arose for and I'm joined today by Lakewood, Frank those sheltie start Collo and Ashley. Oh, hello. I was doing like half of spooky voice for that. Because this week. We're talking about spooky things just really relaxed just chill. Don't also cool. Well, might not sound spooky. But I know that this is my spooky voice. So like sounds like I'm about to get a massage. Spook? I was just outside speaking, massages. And there was this guy carrying this gigantic like pack like just a huge bag. I guess and I was just like I need ask. What what the heck he's carrying? So I was like hi can. I just ask you what you're carrying news like massage will like don't you have one in your office? That's not a normal thing. And then he was I think hitting on me because he offered to give me massage. And you were like, yeah. Take it out. Put it down right here in the middle of stone Stonestreet. I'm ready baby. Oh, look at my back. Got some hot stones in there. I will love that. Well, now, I'm miserable. So. Yeah. You should discipline of spooky you missed free massage. Anyone would be sad about that? Today. We're going to be talking about many things from scary movies, two games. Like, Dokie Dokie literature club end PT. But first Ashleigh, it's me. I just had a question for you guys. Yeah. What is all of your respective favorite? Fall foods. Sorry. Preparation. It's a pretty big question. I think I know. No, yes. Ok p campaign by he can go to say it like that. I know a lot of people have had issue with the way we say pecan instead of pecan, I usually say pecan, but I thought that you guys would be you know, it's I con do. That's fine. It's a pecan or pecan. No. I think he can is definitely a southern what are you really? 'cause I remember we talked about this before. Of course, a previous episode somebody commented, and they're like, I can't believe these people are saying pecan and not pecan. Yeah. But I don't know. I feel like both are correct. Shall we get Ross in here as a Georgia resident because I feel like it's a good question. I mean, that's the thing. I like every word that has a location variant is there's no way to be right about it. And maybe I get heated because I can't pronounce bagel the way that everyone. Yeah. You did it you really? Oh, yes. Someone was people were gently chiding you in the New York City. We're video that you did backed Clayton. And I shot that video or are Spiderman New York City locations video, and I was like, I know this is the one place where I will not be able to defend myself for saying bagel the way that I usually say it usually say they will bagels sounds like Klay battle vaguely. Yeah. Kinda pedal. Yeah. Bagel anyway. So I was like, okay. I'm going to say this one time I'm going to make a concession Chelsea literally just hit the table so hard. She heard her hand, I'm making a concession to the people of the world, and I'm going to say, bagel bagel. And I every single take me did so many takes not because of this. But just because of like city noise and getting it, right, and whatever they goal bagel bagel the one fuck and take ended up in the video was the one where I did not say it. Directly correctly. Correct air quotes. There's no correct way to say that damn word eagle. You tell him Simone. I I'll fight for the people who say pecan pecan. I don't care anymore. It's all occasional dialect anyway. So what if you say naked that's wrong? But so you're saying bagels are not your favorite fall, though. No, unless they're pumpkin spice bagels in which case hill. Yeah. I think it might be mulligan. Tony soup, pumpkin spice feeble. From where? I'm pretty sure. Yeah, actually. Yeah. No. So this is before I moved to New York City where they you know, have like real bagels. But that brand the grocery store brand makes pumpkin spice bagels, and they're really good. Ashley is recoiling microphone upset so many people that I I will continue to do. So your favorite fall food was. Okay. Wait. Oh, let's get a nice lovely. Yeah. Everything's great Chelsea would've. Oh, you okay. I like pumpkin bread specifically of nostalgic feeling chocolate chip, pumpkin. Something my mom used to make it. I'm this. I should make pumpkin muffins. What about you, Ashley? Well, after what was it now year that we've been doing this podcast, a Marie calendar's? Wow. I actually have been hankering for a pot pie recently. And I've been watching a lot of again baking show. British frigging joke, and there's just I wanna I wanna make them. All I wanna make a pot pie. I wanna make you know, they had a Bedfordshire clanger, and it's a very complicated. Name for what's basically a large hot pocket. I would love to eat a large. No, we don't get me wrong. But like, I saw it was so complicated and feelings complicated. But like I looked at it was like this is just like a big hot pocket. I eat that nothing is better than like a pocket of meat. Yeah. I really I love savory pies pies. You inspired me. I think I might I might need to to make Popeye. Gnashing show up if you as soon as the chimes actually will be your door. Hello. We should bring in slash make all of our favorable. God have a fall food party. Yes. On the show. Yeah. Yes. Yes. All this. We've talked about podcasting and eat and come on people want our mouth sounds. You guys. Got so mad at me when I made that thirsty north. At blocked it up. Was it last week? You were you may have been gone, but it was definitely horrifying because I had a very dry mouth. I'm. I've completely blocked this. Oh. All right. Let's talk about speaking of horrible things. You've you've heard Allegra deeply she's hurt more people than just a lake looker. I'm stamping take it out on don't. Well, maybe someone who think it's Mon instead. Oh, no. Can't get away with it this time she'll see not today. That is a good time to transition into talking about horrible things. That are scary. So actually tell us what you've been up to this week. I have been also I was sick last week. And so that means I had a lot of time to watch things not play things because I just you know, you don't feel up to it. So I've been doing this process for about maybe like a month or two now where I'm slowly trying to adjust myself in terms of like being able to watch a scary movie. Because when I was child my cousin, my older cousins were very mean. And they like I have to say these scarred me pretty badly by making me watch poltergeist when I was four four. Yeah. And then like there were other like interview with the vampire isn't necessarily scary movie. But it's fucking scary. When you're five like, you don't so I was like terrified for like three months that vampires would fly up to. My window and kill me. Yeah. I developed like a very unique blink system for like as if this would shield me from the vampires as you when you're a kid you're like, obviously, this is safe. So I like I made like it was my version of cove where I would take the blanket, and then I would sort of like wrap it around myself. But have it sort of be like a little taller than me? So like, it's almost like you have a skylight of thing with your blanket. And the thing is that I could only open it like a crack, and I wasn't I couldn't really breathe properly. But I was like this is the price you pay for being safe from vampire this Ashley blanket to Kito. Yeah. Kinda kinda. Yeah. It was like me sweating and scared of getting my throat ripped open. Nightmare on elm street. Also way too young, and I had a very similar blanket system because that's another thing where it's like FREDDY Krueger's gonna come and get you when you sleep so so convenient so naturally just blanket will be an iron shield an iron field and also to pillows around your head a so that was your blanket system was two pillows around the head. No, just like put one. I'd be like, okay, I'm hiding so you didn't know him here myself. Yeah. I try to puff off the blanket and take it make myself as flat as possible. So they wouldn't be lumps under the. So if they came in they would know I was covers Allegra what did you watch too young? Well, I watched being John Malkovich. Sure. Okay. It is weird. Going inside of a person who doesn't love that. I mean, and then John Malkovich goes inside himself that is. That is. Been you. Because particular episode of the teenage mutant ninja turtles cartoon, really fucked. With me when I was a kid because it was about getting your brain, drain, and I was like terrified that was going to happen. Like all of your memories and thoughts were stolen by Krang. The little weird brain from Trang. Yeah. So much more family friendly. It scared me I was league legit clarified. Pretty scary. Looking like he was pretty gross. He was gross brain that had a weird body that he rove around with as little brain tentacle. Yeah. It was weird. But ironically, I would I would give anything for a brain drain though right now. Anyway. Sorry this. And ask what it means to grow up. But it is. So anyway, I've been trying to watch these scary movies because I don't know there are some kind of bigger ones. Right. That everyone is seen like, for example, like the Babu crate, and I was like, I don't know if I could ever watch that. I think that's too scary. For me. Like, for example, even though I'm watching scary movies. Now, I think I'm at the point where I would still never see the ring or the woman. I don't think I ever I'm not interested in it. And I don't want to. And it's quite frankly, an effort even to get me to watch Rosemary's baby which I haven't yet. But I'm thinking about it. I'm seeing a pattern here. And I think all of those movies involved children. It's what you. What do you like? Yeah. Ring as a little girl omen that's about Damian. Right. And then Rosemary's baby like changing or quickly in horn. Are you afraid of children? Yes. But that was signed the point. I'm actually terrified of children. But like that's different wasn't the grudge. Also, there was a little boy in the growing refused to see that as well. Okay. Okay. I don't like that. Oh, yeah. And then okay. Chelsea you asked me a couple of weeks ago in slack Chelsea ass in the entertainment or she's like, Ashley wait, I want to know why you're saying devil's advocate scarred. You as a child? What about that movie was scary? And I was like Chelsea it was so scary. So actually that same day. I saw it was on Netflix. And I was like fucking do it. Conquer my fear, and I'm gonna tell Chelsea exactly what scared me watch shit. They're actually about two scenes that are really scary. And then the rest really, but as it trialed being like, a horrible tense terrifying. Experience because they the the scary parts were like, you know, like when there's like a flash of a demon face or whatever a hate that stuff. Catches me off guard. But yeah, I watched it, and I was like this just a bunch of lawyers out Pacino. L E cheese. And then I almost to shame to go back to Chelsea was like, you know, I don't know. It's like you watch specific time. I'm not really judge you. It was just funny. Well, also, though, I mean, Charlie's they're in very graphically slices her neck open. So scary to watch as a trial about that part. Sorry. CG hold up like all of the weird moving angels. And creepy demon facing, I didn't know what that was about. But I want one of those in my room. This big sculpture looks like a stone slab and all of these like, it's girl whatever the stones up, then all these people start moving, and they have black eyes. And I think that's scared me as kid. They're all these. I don't let the demonic like angel demon stuff. I think that's what me freaked out by religious stuff. I hate that stuff. I'll never watch. None stresses. Oh god. I just what did I do? The exorcist. I am obsessed with reading about I just watched a video the other day about why? It's so scary. I was looking for why the music is so scary because the music's. The blue how to talk how to make words come out of the mouth, the Bowery boys podcast, which is a history podcast about New York City. Specifically does a Halloween episode every year, and I love to listen to podcast in the shower. And I started listening to the Halloween episode. And they played exorcist music is the intro, and I was just like. I can't hear this while I'm like trapped in my small hot box full of water so vulnerable, which is what I call the shower. All hot fog full of water water. Sounds like you're hot boxing in a car. But it's like, you're. Can we stop Simone from vaping? Now. No one does vaping. I'm facing right now. The extra very good movie. Is it though? Yeah. Yeah. It is like as a film. It's very good to stick. Craze, you doesn't she? She's like stabbing herself. But her face is all at rotting off. And she's like. And then there's like some like vomit coming. I don't clai stairs. Worse. I hate the body contortions stuff. I don't like seeing that. So what is okay? What is the theme of all things besides children that really scares you settles the religious thing possession demonic stuff. Release scares me that stuff like who's the I can't touch it with the ten foot pole, and then like two or degree like, you know, scary ghost stuff. But you know, I feel like that's been softened with watching American horror story. That's like it's like scary. But it's like, it's still TV. So it's still okay. He can't hurt you. Well, I mean there still some really disturbing things from that show. But I find that the best way to use at least for me myself into the horror genre is actually using psychological thrillers as a gateway because a lot of the times like logical thrillers and mysteries. Like we'll have like horror like elements, but they won't lean too far. Into like showing really jump scare stuff to you ever a common Dacian for one that would be psychological or gateway. I just finished watching tabula Ross on flicks. It's a Belgian mystery thrillers like one limited series was ten episodes. And it's just this woman who has like she got into an accident couple years ago, and she has like short term memory loss. So she keeps forgetting things, but she remembers everything before the accident. And then you know, what happens is that. She's like implicated in this like this guy disappeared and everyone's like, you did it air are that's what they like. And then you know, she's committed in a psych ward. And she's trying to remember this stuff. So they'll split time between her in the psych ward. And then like four three or two months before the disappearance where she moves into this like huge houses to beer, dead grandfather's house, and you think like oh my God. Yeah. I was just like oh my God. This is haunted house. I can't wash this. I can't wash. His really haunted house stuff. Fine. Okay. Okay. Okay. Still a child though. You should definitely never watch the Terry. I did remember. Only one for you. Yeah. That was on my before me, we talked. I think it's because I liked I don't know like the technical art stuff about it. Art stuff. Listen to me. I'm such a smart person, you know, they Sinophile, but like cinematography editing, and like the way they lined it up with certain like sounds. I just thought that that artistically was cool except for you know, when she climbed that wall. Okay. You should never watch mother. Have you seen? Yes. A horror movie. It's not scary trying to recommend things. I actually knew that she saw folk music. Blacks in all I am like the girl across. Let's talk about some games. First of all do spooky games. I so Chelsea you just play Dokie Dokie literature club did. And my question for you, which I warned you. I was going to ask is everyone always says you can't talk about what happens in Dokie Dokie literature club. How are you going to make this podcast material? I'm going to just sell people on playing because I feel like a lot of people slept on this came came at last year. And but and it seems like poly on ourselves slept on it. Hey, we got a story up about it. One person less. Julia. It was Victoria toria. That doesn't mean we didn't sleep on it saying like a lot of people were like, why didn't you include? This aren't your best fifty games of the year. And honestly played it. I would push for it. Because I think it was very good say Matala night. But that's neither here nor there. So like what I find really interesting in. It is a free game on steam. You can play it on your. I didn't know it was free. Sorry carry on. See that's something that some people didn't know. Yeah. We shoulda flagged that immediately spree free. Nothing else. You say matters. It's free, and it it is eight like three hundred Meg download. So your MAC book air could definitely run it, Ashley good. Wow. This targeted advertising is really getting out of hand. I know. Hard to get Ashley. But honestly, no sorry. Go ahead. Okay. It didn't also takes about five hours to play all damn girl. Come on. Let me live. I am. I mean, I'm letting all of you live. There is a lot of I will say this is not a spoiler. She's a lot of wind up before it gets poopie, and I was not expecting that much wind up. But you you it does it's really good getting on your skin. Honestly, this is a game. I will not forget both for its like written words, and it's visual imagery, and also the there's a content warning on the front that is not a joke that. I was not expecting the things that would happen. I it took turns that I didn't expect somebody wants to DM me and talk more about it. I want to talk does the wind up. Make the spooky nece spookier. Isn't that kind of thing? Yeah. I think so because I think the I honestly like because I was like I knew this was a spooky game. It didn't come from the directions. Because you're always in your mind. You're like is this where it's going to get scary. Is this where it's scary. It didn't do it surprised me with where it was going. Okay. So that was one of the things that was really is definitely worth like reading and paying attention through all the preamble like to notice things, but it's gonna surprise you is it visual novel or it is of full on visual. Okay. I wasn't sure. If like it changes direction, the it you make you make choices and that's about it. Okay. It, but like an actually I was talking to a couple people about this. They were like, I'm so impressed that the whole community is so passionate about this game has never like they're so tight on spoilers. So I'm gonna honor that code now that I've like part of it in. It's frigging scary. Are there multiple endings in that game or? No, yes. But you like the main thrust really circles all of them, honestly. So like, I guess. Like, if I have a lot I tend to have a lot of anxiety behind like choice based games because I'm very indecisive. And I'm like is this going to throw off the rest of the game and give me a bed ending 'cause I'm bad at using answers. Answering your questions spoiler. Okay. I'm just trying to be cool. Yeah. I I honestly like I just was blown away at how an like the steam reviews said this is like you're not paying for this came with your money. You're paying with like these sanity. Okay. Very good. That's I know just wanted to I would say like how lean it's pre Halloween weekend. It's gonna be cold in New York might be cold other places as a good. Maybe I'll do I did with haunting at hill house and play it now that I played hunting it hill house. I read that book, but only read it outside of my home because I didn't wanna corrupt my home, and it's oral. So maybe we'll be us going to take your laptop to shopping today. Screaming will I scream oh God you won't scream. But yeah, I learned something very valuable from reading the emails that people sent in for today's spooky episode, which is that all of our listeners are lovely sweet babies who play games that are scary. But that aren't. Horror games. I think that applies to me as well. And a a few people mentioned Zelda games. One person said the scariest thing of the game was when the monsters were frozen in time below the wind waker another person pointed out seeing the moon for the first time in majority mass God and Allegra you're playing majorities mask. I ever frayed of return to majeure AM never playing doors mask ever again. So that's your spookiest game. Yeah. I totally agree. Zelda freaks me the freak out. No, offense old breath wild great. So. So I bought when I was in middle or high school the Zelda like master collection for game who had offering time at George mask. Beasley had like all the classics Elda games because I'd never play Zelda. And I was superstores like, I gotta do this, man. Finally. So I decided in sub starting with autumn time I want to start with mentors mass. We seemed like really interesting with the whole time mechanic of like, okay. If you don't like finish the thing for the world ends got to start over. And I thought that's interesting binging interesting is restful. I hate it. Really stressful much the time limit is horrible. It's horrible. So first of all I'm going in like timed on the first day. It's cool. I meet tangle tingles really gross in this game like sympathetic toward tangle disgusting. Let's say. No shaming. Sorry tingle. But I I saw tangle. And I'm like, I don't know about this actually before even saw tangle before you get into the town. There's like this shopkeeper person. I'm looking at you, Chelsea, you know, what I'm talking. Yeah. Yeah. There's a shopkeeper prison, and you talk to them that part's really creepy because it's like why are you in this random tunnel? What is going? Yeah. Whether it's like the whole intro to that game. I'm not it's not a spoiler game is twenty years old. Yeah. But like, you know, you get transformed into a monster. Yeah. It's like very like there's kind of like the you'll looking fairies floating around. Yeah. That keeps us really sinister. Yeah. Like your just every different person that Lincoln turn into. Oh, creepy the transformation sections where you put the mass. Yeah. I was gonna say I played majority on the three D S port. And then when he first puts the Decca mask on I was actually taken aback because I forgot about the noise in the screen. When he puts it on. And it actually really scared it again Rian just like the decorated sell. This so scary looking God. So yeah, when you get to that part of the transformation for someone with what f is going on Lincoln's was be acute ass. Boy, I have a picture of him in my locker. This is not my link. Which actually did anyway. So he's like a little thing that spits out of his like little weird his mouth Narang goalmouth. Yeah. So I get to the first like dungeon and on this at this point. I have like what twenty four hours left or something? And I go in the dungeon night just kind of look around. I'm like, I don't know what to do what is going on. I I have no idea. So that I'm kind of just running around for like twenty four hours. And then, you know, the time report up when things are like really about end like it's just like, we're very where of okay, you have a minute or five minutes or whatever left before the world ends. And so I finally rushing rushing rushing because I was like, okay, I need to like travel back in time to save. And I'm rushing to like get this thing. So I can keep the dungeon open and then travel back in time. And I finally get the thing. But I have ten seconds left on the clock. And I'm like oh God. I don't know if I can pull up the song of time fast enough. Oh god. So I. Quick saved. And every time you reload the Quincy too. So I was like I'm never opening this again, I just I've never ever ever ever opening this because I have ten seconds on that clock. I'm not gonna be able to create a curse file I'm not going to be able to like go back in time fast enough and put what if okay what if you practiced that like not? But not on that file, right? You practiced it got really adept at doing that. And then you hype yourself up listen to some music, and then you drink a lot of coffee, and then you have someone ideally me in the room with you and turn on the button. I'm like, okay. And I'm wearing a tracks. Like, okay. Let's do this. Let's do this. And they turn it on. Then you punch it. You can do it doing just. You do. I feel like I could I don't know. I've I've thought about that. Sometimes I'm like, I could go back and pungent and really quick. And then I'll say my game, and I'll be able to start over. But I don't know. I just don't know they released here. Google the song of time. You can do they believe in you? Food is coming and you can. Can do it. If you just just practice your button, mashing. Just think if if anything will motivate you it's hell lame the actual villain in that game is like it's not the moon. It's the the little weird guy controlling the moon. What? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I was just trying to make you feel. But you can beat the lame guy is he in the moon. No, why is the moon of face because I don't know Hirose Horo Ono. He's not even Jairo. He went to some other weird land whatever that land is still someone else's moon. No, okay. That should be your motivation. Your motivation is the rocky training sequence at we're going to do your file. Needlessly running upstairs. Well, tiger came keep control. While boil pressing the sequence I'm gonna come up behind you with the stick and be like faster faster. Like you were often. You again started win. Did you do this? I was in maybe ninth or tenth grade. Like. Still have that finding my friends. I saw the file, but I don't have the game. But I do have the file so someone got me the game. Again. I have the game. We have to do it. I'm actually getting really sweaty good. So I have the game. Ashley has the tracksuit yet hand ready. Well, I don't have the traffic, but I can get the tracks. No worry about that. As a whistle. You do send my face. All right. Well, that's very spooky. Allegra. I think Ashley though has done something even more frightening than play matures mask or Donna tracksuit enforcer Franklin. Only according to Simone you've done nationally. I started playing in crossing Puckett Cam. Well, I was very sick. I was trapped in my bed. I didn't wanna play any of my regular games. Also watching a horror movie so in an attempt to not be that scared. I was like I wanna do a maintenance game. Maybe I should. I didn't like starting valley. I think I just didn't understand it. I know that sounds weird. But I just don't think I something did not connect. Okay. Not that. What is like a good maintenance game that you can just check up on and then pulled away and a moat crossing packet Cam remember how angry was when it was like, wait. So these characters have requirements for furniture before they come over to my house. And then in return, they give you some would stupid gave me like two pieces of paper. Fuck you. Anyway. I don't know why I think I was too sick to be angry fine. I'll just do. Do it. And then I I turned it on. And in addition to it softening the blow of a very scary tense movie really into it. I forgot that there is like an easy thing going on. And then I was playing it was like fuck it all just do some fruit. Harvesting? It's very easy. I just needed a nice comforting relaxing game. And then I made more friends, and I was like, wow. I like these friends they're really cool. They're so cute, except you know, when I feel like some of them may be us like these pet names. And I don't know if it's translation, but it comes off very condescending to some of them. I don't like because I'm like, how dare you? What's pet names are upsetting? You. I don't know. You know, they they call you like some of them like referred to you like there this big star. And like, I don't even remember I blocked him out of so angry. Is this a personality type the ones that I like a big star? I can't remember. But yeah, that's weird. It is a weird thing enamel crossing like in the main one someone will come up with a nickname for you. And then suddenly it infects the whole town. Oh god. Like someone will be like can I call you sh- Mukhi, and then you're like trying to press. No. And then you accidentally press the us, and they're like, okay, sh movie. And then you go around town in everyone's calling you smoothie, I would delete the town that I would pack up. I don't like I also was mad that some things took like one minute to craft. And then I crafted this other thing and they're like five hours. I was like what I mean. It was ideal since I was watching it was like fine. I'll check in after two more scary movies. But what the hell? Gave me something to look forward to your best friend in pocket best friend. I think is Apollo. I love Apollo. I also like Dodd even though she's really weird. Like, really, I it's the bunny, right? And it's it's it's just every time I talked to Dadi. And what what what are you saying? I. Oh, yeah. Daddy. And I just like the fruits. Look, really good. The really big SRI big really do. Love the fruits. Yeah. The fruits. I like the people are set to pick. I thought the furniture owes like, I guess I'll be bored. But no, they kind of keep giving you options as you level up. I didn't know that. Now, you can craft this stuff. I was like. Wow. And then it was like, well, this is going to be sort of boring. I don't wanna craft like five different rugs. Some of them wanna read rub, but I don't have enough cotton. But then I was looking at you can coffeemaker annals like, that's so cool. Coffeemaker is what sold meals how you can make that. I wanna play this game. Oh my God toilet or? No, molly. An animal crossing showed me Allegra. There were so many toilets. And I'm pretty sure it his animal crossing. Well, I knew in Maine animal crossing you have toilets. Yeah. But I have never seen one pocket camp was happy home designer. I mean in all of them, but just me civic one that she's talking, but I feel like I don't know. But I remember where I think someone had a whole room of toiling new leaf toilets curse one of them was gold. Yeah. Yes. We'll be right back with more video games and other spooky things after this brief advertiser segment from betterment about how void the anxiety. That comes with managing your finances. Do you know the emotion most often associated with money anxiety? Right. We've all felt that. 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This one was next to my head. And I was pretty discos back to hating PT. Because I think that the game is haunted and do not like it. And I do not want it on any consuls in my home accidents happen around you. Well when it was on. Yeah. Our apartments Ardy. So our apartment is a railroad. So it's very long narrow hallway in the bathroom is all way the other end from the bedroom. So it's just dark and spooky and we've had like definitely weird ghost esque things old building. Like what just like things that move are like, yeah. And also we keep seeing a phantom cat lately. That's no didn't someone die and your building. Yes. Someone did die in our building. Well, back up to the fence. We. Well, we don't hear the human. I want to hear about the human. So we can't be like, oh, look Vegas right there. And then we'll see Vegas the other side of the room. And we're like, well, what was the thing that just brushed my leg. And that's gonna both, Sean. And I. You just felt it. No, we see a cat in the corner of our I and they're like, oh Vegas is right there. And then we'll Vegas two rooms over like sitting on the couch asleep, and I'm like, well, that's the phantom cat and Shauna both seen it. So it's not. Oh, yes. Same coloring? Like a dark grey cat. Cool. Okay. What about the other person? Sad. This is sad. An older older person died in our building. And his body wasn't discovered for several. It was really it was really sad. And also really not smelling. Great were you? So you were living there living there. I walked into my hallway. And I was like someone didn't take or someone took some trash put it in the hallway or something. This is my my thing that reassures me will reassure me for the rest of my life. Is that I will migrate a sphere is being scared by finding a dead body. And it's never going to happen because I know I will smell it first. And then I will just turn and I will walk away. Yeah. No, what it smells like I do. Now. I don't personally know. But I'm pretty sure that I could be I would definitely questioned the smell like you'd be like that's not trash. Anyways, by he sounds sounds peaceful like despite the neglect. Yes, despite click he's probably not haunting you could be fine. It could be not haunting us or maybe multiple people lived in an apartment since phantom cat family, phantom, cats, never seen a person just like a cat. No never seen a person. Thank god. I think I would move. I let like rent stabilized, and I would still be out of there by if I ever saw anything like that. No, no, just the cats. But so anyway, this is all goes back to PT. I I am very guilty of having a very overactive imagination, Shannon. I played P T together in that game. Like stayed in my mind, there's from from everything from that talking bag of entrails. It's like there's just like a Brown bag the middle game at talks to you. And it says like what's the thing is like, I don't I know how do you know that the real you is you account? Remember, oh, there's also the jump scares with the ghost and all just like, so many creepy things. But the whole point is that my apartment feels like the same shape as PD ho. Yeah. Very long hallway. So you're just like, oh, yeah. I don't like this. So frayed that you'll boot up your PlayStation one day and find that instead of the PT apart. There's a perfect recreation of your own. Oh, cool. Well, and I like since I played this game. And then that night I woke up at two AM and could not go back to sleep. I was like it's not happening. My brain is like just fully. Yeah. I read a book for three hours on my kindle. But then Shawn's parents Kim Townley this was almost two years later, and he was telling them about PT and also how much it scared me. They were like we wanna play. So I had to relive PT. Oh my God. What did they think they loved it? I mean, they thought it was they thought like like tore movies, and they really enjoyed it. And they were like oh the school. We didn't go all the way to the end with like getting all the pieces hearing like because the end of that is not necessarily a satisfying thing. But it's like the whole all the buildup is so strong demo view watch the play. I did. But I the part where I knew that the ghost was gonna come down. I was like I gotta go do something in the kitchen just mysteriously something, and they they were making ridiculous amounts of fun of me. And I'm sorry. But that don't know why that game is just because it because I think it is like that really good game engine. And it does look like a real place, and it's just like so unsettling. Yeah. I think I remember that you know that I conduct. I'm sure like that screen grab rate of like you see a person standing all the way at the end the light shining on them. And I think I remember I played it for polyglot. Maybe we're streaming or something. I remember like up yet. There was. I remember there's no choice but to literally walk forward. And I remember being like I don't want to. And then Allegra jeffer- like you literally can't progress through the game unless you walk for it. I was like I don't not to the. That's exactly like I was just like I'm putting the controller down. I'm not touching the controller like, Sean, and I were passing back and forth. Eventually I was like I can't touch this controller because that means I m moving. Yeah. Yeah. No. That's the the frigging worse things. Like, I have a choice here. I just stop. And I don't wanna go on the thing with the radio also becomes spooky in like weird things happen to it. Like, you know, it's like a that voice that comes through the the normal broadcast. And then it's like look behind you. I'm not gonna why would I turn around? I think the part that scares me. So I think that game is brilliant imperfect. And you guys know I love Kojima, but I am very anxious about bathrooms like if a bathroom is like gross like, oh, I wanna die like when I go to people's houses. And there's like grout and stuff. I'm like, I'm sorry. Can't poop in your house. But in. About slow growth. That's the worst part for me reroute. Disgusting that bathroom is. You mean, just the normal bath the pather PAT, really gross. And also full of spooky sounds. There was like a baby. Yeah. I was like is that the gross part of the baby. This thing with bathrooms at scare me is it's the mirror thing. The bathroom mirror, and it also has the shower too. So there's there's definitely things could hide in the shower things can peer in the mirror. It's like definitely most spooky room in your house. Yeah. Yeah. Silently agree kitchen, but I really legitimately love. And I think PT fascinated by how much it scares me. But also totally scared by it that. Yeah. Yeah. Video on Pauley on YouTube channel where is John? I just made a video about why it's the scariest horror game of all time. And or the best horror game of all time. And it always will be check it out and like Dr. Yeah. Wow. Thank you. You know, what I edited that story? And then I didn't watch the video because I. Yeah. I know, you know, what I'll give give polygon views on every other video resounding endorsement for not the cursed ones. No curse videos. I'll give you anything else. We have some cursed stories ourselves here in these emails. Did you guys like to hear some cursed stories? Yeah. Wow. The resounding silence. I was there was this the controlling blocking for Ashley was drinking coke zero and it prevented her from wanting my spook stories. All right. So this I E mail is from Ryan from California Ryan starts off Email by clarifying that they're spooky story is somewhat tame. But no, no. You know, what Ryan we're going for it? When I was a kid. I found a legend of Zelda oracle of seasons. Cartridge in Mike Araj by our washing machine. I was the only kid in the house with a GameBoy at the time. And definitely wasn't Mike game. I also hadn't had any guests over recently enough to have it be something dropped by my cousins who also didn't have game boys as far as I recall the card had a save file at the very end of the game with just the final boss to go. I ag- nor that in favor of playing through it on my own until the game corrupted and was unplayable. Maybe it went through the wash. I still have no idea. How it got there who had really belonged to? But I got quite a few hours a fun too. Thanks for reading this nonsense. Ryan, California spooked Ryan, are you? Sure. It wasn't like one of your parents playing your game. Fucked up and fell out of the. Wash. Their hats or Ryan steals things in his sleep. And he forgot she never game loving thief in the house fief, and then the sif was like, oh, no a fellow game lover lives here. I better get out of here quickly. And they dropped a cartridge ghost voice. Why fellow game? What Chelsea no? I just. Where's your sense of mystery? Dammit. The parents thank to robber, not the robber. Will maybe the robber was a child those try what if it was he crawled into the washing machine? Was he almost beat the game? But then he like put it down and the wash cycle. Start washing machine washable start at somehow he fell it. He went to narnia washing machine. And he'll never be the legend of Zelda or seasons and who haunt that house forever. And also he was mad because Ryan played the game. And then the ghosts corrupted the cartridge disarm Ryan from beating the game. Yeah. No, no one was allowed to beat that game. Never again in that house in California. Right. California. As only one Ryan though. All right. Do you want another spooky story? Yeah. This is from Heather. Dear Polly gun show since coming to university a couple of years ago. I picked myself up a new three D S and got back into a lot of DS games. New and old when I was younger. I had that seems to DS game, you know, the one that was like no other SIMS game to exist. I wouldn't describe it as spooky exactly, but it is extremely cursed. You get given a hotel in the desert to manage just because your car broke down in front of it and the management of this hotel included such normal activities as fighting off aliens with a water gun and collecting nuclear fuel from the desert to keep the power running. What? Anyway, I had vivid memories of this game. And I kept asking friends if any of them remembered it, but no one did I was beginning to think I'd imagined it until one day we were in town and on a whim either the to take a couple of friends into C E X. Our local secondhand game shop to look around and there it was it was on its own shelf slightly separated from the rest of the DS three s games at I level. It was the only copy and it was waiting for me. Of course. I bought it and played it through completely in the next couple of weeks. It was just as cursed as I remember so cursed that my friend decided to buy it to experience it for herself. She found one on EBay and ordered it. But around the same time hers arrived, I lost mine. I think the game is some kind of curse it object, which of which only one can exist at any time because it's honestly wild am I curse? Now. Heather smiley face. No, I'm sorry. But Heather what the this the hotel management. Why we this is the SIMS? Apparently, I've never heard of it. I guess so it sounds it. Sounds like psycho the game. Definitely psycho the game. And also cursed the SIMS you can't have hotel. I don't think right or they're aliens in this. Yes. Yes. Wow. There's a lot of death in aliens in the really, yeah. There's a deep Lor. Mama's. They're always really like all the sim world games. Always had a fascination with aliens coming or. Yeah. You get up -ducted. Yeah. New game feature. You could get up. But usually like all that stuff like going to work, you don't at least in the in the older games since two three. I think you didn't actually do work. You're just sent your sim to work, and then they did work. So the idea of running hotel that is very different cool possibly curse. It's like the shining. Yeah. A mix of the shining, and psycho and hotel, California. Yes. Wow. Seems to hotel California expansion pack. Man. Thank you so much for these cursed emails they're very good and enjoyable. Thank you so much Heather and Ryan, well, this has been another episode of the polygon show. And I'm going to tell you what we're gonna talk about next week as soon as I pull up the list. Aren't you guys? Glad that. I'm so good at my job. Yes. Yes. The answer is nothing because we don't have forever. Well, we'll talk about that. When the time comes thank you for listening to the polygon show. I hope that you enjoyed it as much as we do. I guess look out on Twitter, right? Yeah. Got onto I'll probably post a question on Twitter. If we do decide to theme for next week, which will will be recording on Halloween. So that's part of why we decided to move the spooky episode to this week for. So you can listen to it before the Halloween season is over. Yes. After November on November first you cannot be spooked again. Yeah. Be scary. No. You can watch the exorcist now watching the exercises watch it and eat Turkey. Also, Mike keeps pressuring me to watch Jacob's ladder and everything about that sounds like everything I would hate. So if anyone has thoughts on that movie, please tell me so I know what I'm watching next episode. It's about Jacob or another episode. I'm lyn. If you have any questions unrelated to whatever topic actually questions related to Jacob's ladder. Repaving today cups Lodder scary. Let me know. Ashley, Polly Gonda. Yes. Email all questions of statements about Jacob's ladder. And any questions about Jacob plotter to polygon show dot com. And then any other Jacob's ladder? Archie can tweet at poly. Gosh, oh, we'd love to see fan art of Jacob's ladder. Yeah. It's really happy. No. It doesn't. I don't even know what. An old block game. That's what I thought too. But apparently, this is like a psychological horror movie, it's not daring our NAS key. Is it my thinking just by just by? Cool. Yeah. We're gonna end up. So I'm gonna read this article on birth movies. Death called purgatory PTSD Jacob's ladder by Adrian Lyne line line. Anyway is the director of that. Wow. We're talking about. Hot lean everybody. This has been the Tali gun show. If you stay tuned after the show, you'll hear about vox is new awesome podcast called feature. Perfect which is all about how we can make the world a better place. The news today seems really grim, and it's sometimes focuses more on problems than on solutions. I'm Lyn Matthews. The host to future perfect show about possible solutions. Solutions that are a little weird a little wild. 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Honoring A Legend Part 1: C.V.S. 1K
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It's special because we are celebrating one thousand career coaching victories for c Vivian stringer. That's right coach stringer joined the one K club on Tuesday night. And this is actually a two part podcast. So right now, you're listening to part one which features players of coach stringer. We've got Matija von played at Rutgers and a final four essence Carson who played at Rutgers in the final four Cappon dex to Tom WNBA champion keirin pie. Drawn who actually was a starting point guard for coach stringer at Cheney state and Katie Abramson Henderson who's the current head coach at UCF but also played for coach stringer at Iowa. So this is part one. But we have two parts the other part of our. Podcast is going to feature. John chainey who is one of the mentors for coach Vivian stringer when she was at Cheney state. He was the head coach there for a long time. Joe let law says the coach at Rutgers when they went to the final four is now at South Carolina, but also played for coach stringer in Iowa Marianne Stanley who has been a guest on our show who was an assistant at Rutgers as well when they went to the final four, and then Dr Christine grant, who is a legend. Especially round advocacy for title nine who was a longtime administrator at Iowa in hired coach Vivian stringer. Lots of stories to tell lots of things to share in particular. You know, I I often reflect on coach Stringer's time at Iowa. Because I remember story. Someone told me about how they were recruited by Iowa. And you got to think of this African American woman head coach, which there weren't a lot around at the time. She started in nineteen seventy two at Cheney state. There was a little slippery rock before then. But you know, there weren't any a lot of African Americans at all in Iowa. And here it was coach stringer Araj the head coach. Dr grant bull flecked a little bit on that decision. But and then had to recruit other African American women to come and play in Iowa. I mean magic going on your visit and just from a cultural standpoint what that was like and then coach stringer also talks about how when she got to Iowa. There were probably a hundred fans in the stains. And I believe she quoted twenty two thousand at one point at a game in Iowa. So she's well known for what she did there. But anyway, we're going to be celebrating coach stringer on this podcast. She's the head coach at Rutgers currently, but as I mentioned previous stops at Cheney state in Iowa, she became the fifth division one head coach and women's bass college basketball history to reach one K winds joining Pat summitt tar Vander veer, Gino Oriana, Sylvia Hatchimal. If you have not heard those episodes where we gave some love to those coaches for their one K, please do so we also interviewed division to Barbara Stevens who hit one K last season as head coach Ed Bill university. So you can pull up one K if you're feeling fruity if you were watching the game the one K game on the big ten network last night. What a time it was. I mean, the victory again came against central Connecticut at. The rack, but it was just a job. Well done by everyone on the broadcast. Production crew administrators at Rutgers. The crowd was full of so many people that love co stringer her family dawn Staley was there. Don, obviously, one of only two African American women to win a. National championship at the division one level college women's basketball. Joining Carolyn peck, Teresa Edwards was in the crowd. Carol stiff of ESPN, Daniel Donahue, so many faces and so many people in lives that coach stringer touched. They had paintings and giveaways and videos of Kobe Bryant giving love to coach stringer Whoopi Goldberg, the NBA TNT crew, those guys gave coast trigger some love. So it was just a well done shot out to the administrators at Rutgers everyone who had something to do with putting that celebration together very well done. But I think the thing that sticks with me personally, let me just say this. She did get a tweet from Hillary Clinton as well. I don't know if you saw Rica that. That. Tweet Hillary Clinton. But the one thing that stands out to me personally is just that coach stringer started coaching forty six years ago in what she's done for African American women, and she was very good friends with Pat summitt, and at someone who she speaks very highly of in terms of her as a mentor as a friend just how close they were. But you know, you think about what these women sacrificed, and how they were the first and how they push and how they pioneered for us to have everything we have for the sport of basketball right now. But for me, just Vivian coach, Vivian Stringer's life was not easy. Just the amount of adversity that she had to face almost seems unfair. You probably know about the death of her husband, Mr. Bill stringer who was near and dear to her who was a driving force in her life. You know, her daughter fell ill, and, you know, just tremendous hurdles to overcome with her care in those kind of things it just the number of things she's had to. To persevere through our tremendous. And you'll just hear the impact on this podcast that that strength hat on. So many people across the board. She's just inspired me so much. I get emotional just thinking about it. I don't know what you would say she meant to you. But to me, she is one of the most impactful figures of our time. I think that to me she embodies what it means to be a strong African American woman in times where that strength isn't always recognized by everyone what sticks out most to me is remembering what happened in the two thousand eight thousand sorry, the two thousand seven two thousand eight these in win her teen was publicly ridiculed by a radio host in the way that she was able to stand up and stand for her team. And basically say, you know, to the world where I should be celebrating something that I've been working almost thirty years to have. I'm here having to defend the honor of my team, and I'm willing to do that because we're worth it. And you know, just being able to to see her go to bat for her not only her team, but for all of us for every young black girl who's ever been in a situation where? You know, they were stereotyped or looked at less than what they were. I think she embodied what that what it means to be able to to stare to stare not necessarily danger. But just to be able to look amongst the crowd and say this is who we are. This is what we're about. And this is what we're gonna do. And whether you like it or not we're here, and I love that. Absolutely loved it. I mean, it it's it's. When you have you responsible for a nation of women, right because she is impacted not just her players, but people it's just widespread. I could just think about Oprah. You know, she was on Oprah Oprah say about her Oprah with an offer like her impact has been tremendous. But then the personal tragedy, the the rejection, you know, she talks about not making the cheerleading team or first time trying out, you know, I it just so many things that happened in in even especially during those times in the sixties and seventies civil rights and title nine coaching before title nine even a came into play. So we, you know to reconized aren't going to spoil the greats of this podcast. But we just wanted to thankfully, hall, Allen, first and foremost food is one of the great orders in my opinion of our game. I mean, if you've never heard her speak. She just she's magic that's really the way. I describe her that she's technic-. The presidency. Oh, fleecy hall. Allen associates. He played for coach stringer from eighty seven to ninety one. But polices impact on the game is widespread from her work with coaches from a step up, which is a assisted in head coach training program that she has every may where she just pours into the future of our game. She worked once worked at Nike this growing that aspect of the game for women's basketball. She is a lawyer would I always wanted to be a lawyer both least is much smaller than smarter than I am. But she's a coach is agent. She just touches our game, so many ways, but I just want to reconized are going to do more of is let more people have a voice on this podcast. Like, I love being the host. And I wanna talk to connect with our fans. It's Rica does as well. But it was just fitting for police having played for coach stringer having known her. So well for her to be the voice of this podcast and the hosted and we're going to do more of that we actually are looking at having some WNBA players come in wholesome around. The rim during college season and possibly direct and help with content. So we want more people to be involved with with what this podcast looks like. And how shaped so I'll shut up now because the was going to say I'm talking too much for an intro. We hope you please check out part one and two. But now, let's please celebrate coach c Vivian stringer. Hi, my name is Felicia ho Ellen only my closest friends. Call me and sodas coach. Co stringer when I was just. A young woman with a dream. And when I'm at co-starring, and she talked to me about her dream. Of winning national championships. And she said to me, she said is if you buy into monitoring. Nothing will prevent me from going into yours, and I will do everything humanly possible to help. Make your dream. Come true. When she said in my home, or hold is it I said I wanted to be attorney and co-starring or made sure that that happened. I had to do the work, but she made a phone call to the law school and said, look, I have a student athlete who has well over three point O GPA. She's been active and student life on campus and on the homecoming cooler than in a sorority, and she wants to be an attorney. What do we need to do to make that happen? When I got my job at Nike coast during there was the one who talk to Levin at nineteen and our twice at Nike about me being a part of the staff after that fast left to go on to be the executive director of the WBZ. A and after six years, I got the job co-starring pushed all the way. And then when I got to run a WNBA teen. She was my biggest cheerleader that was my dream job. And then when I met my husband, Johnny she said to me that I had found my complimented life that Johnny reminded her a lot of Mr. stringer and for everything great that happened in my life. For my graduation of all schools to being there on my wedding day. Not just being there for the graduation from law school, but hosting a party at her home. And I remember when my grandmother passed away who had been the most significant seeking life that morning, I get a phone call from co straighter too. She's more than a coach to me. Coach stringer in everything that I've always wanted to be and then some. And feel grateful that it has been her honor and privilege to be a stepping stone and to be someone who elevates of. So that their dreams can come true. She I I would say that it would be selfish that the the you know, that it's all about a national championship. But I think that coast during their. Her win sparring feed what she's done on the basketball court because for every young woman that she's coached from Cheney to Iowa to Rutgers. She won and all of our lives, but not just our lives. But in the lives of the people that we all have gone on to touch. And so we always say three teen one family one CBS family, and when she was inducted into the Naismith hall of fame, we had a three teams one family calibration to honor her and she bought the Naismith trophy and she had everybody to come in touch the trophy. And she said that a piece of it belong to all of because we all made that happen. Her husband Bill stringers made me believe that there were men in the universe. Who could love a strong black woman a strong woman with a vision in a dream. In clarity. And who could lead. Her children have been selfless and her family, her brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews are all part of the extended CVS basketball family Br grunting jour- hired her at record. Dr Christine grant, higher toured Iowa. I'm not sure who hired her Cheney. But what I do know that all of them positioned her on her sinement because coaching has been more than just a game. It's changed a lot of people's lives, and maybe in stringer changed the trajectory of my life. And that's why when let China called and to Rica, and I would moderate this park. I was honored. So I hope that the stories and the message is that everyone has an opportunity to hear about co stringer and coach Raymond my shell that we're and can't be pundits. Who considered herself feature before it was a change that we would even get to see her as a future? I mean, camping and tasha porno, Linda mounds, and there's so many names that could be called if any Schuler. So Newton one of her favorites. And I've been just so looney co-starring is touch so many lives court date, locking Herber and Andrea harm and. I mean, there's just so many people we all consider ourselves sisters, and though coach is not our mother. I would say that we all proud to call her coach. I'm really excited to share that we have matere on on the phone WNBA player. He has played with the Washington mystics, and what the Atlanta dream. And who knows I could be missing the team. But what I do know is that wherever she was playing. She was competing because competing is what co- stringer always required and Matiz one of the most talented players that ever come out of the state of New Jersey. And I know that coach was really excited. Joe let with recruiting coach wall was recruiting Matiu and not help lead Rutgers too. I think final four right? Correct. And in essence shit. And the national championship game. So. My good job Martinez. You know, what I would want to know from you. This is kind of a fun question. Okay. Based on what you know about co stringer. If Costa here was a superhero fantasy superhero, and she has superpower. What she in terms of superhero in what superpowers do you think she would have? I thought she would. Okay. What tell me about this superhero that you know, and the superpower that she has. I think she's wonder woman. I think she's every superhero, superman, male or female. She's that amazing Cochrane, then a little. Person. And I think a lot of our careers when it comes to, you know, competing, and, you know, being a pro she thought of that at an early thing, they're not saying something that follows the brokers girl. Fact, I would agree with you completely. And so I remember when you guys went to the final four in Cleveland, and we had that situation went down. I'm as an Oprah Winfrey. I remember coach being Oprah. And at the end of the interview with Oprah Winfrey over say Toco stringer Vivian, you make me proud to call myself W O eight and I was like you better say Oprah. But it was a like you said that was a big moment and co-starring or gave you guys a boy, she gave you ladies of wouldn't you think coaching Todd you all in that moment about Joe boy. Had the same. She said never settled for from never let anyone, you know, make you feel mediocre. Never undermine. Yeah. So always feel as if your it. And when you think, oh, shrink or walk. She walks like, she she talks like she's it. And she. Yeah. She you know, she's kinda pet that down to the players and as young females. So she was a, you know, a great role model for myself. She helped me into the first nine AM today will love to give back and also never do anything without it being a hundred percent so emperor. Sure, never better phone. So I definitely gotta thank Australia for that whole myself high center. I absolutely love that. And I think you're right. She forces us all to live at a higher standard. I think that my Angelo and her poem. Phenomenal woman says she walks like she has gold mine pumping in her bed yard. You you're absolutely right about that. How what was it about coach stringer that major want to stay home and play at Rutgers? I think she would that hearing, you know, even get girls that didn't work from New Jersey. You know, they always family family atmosphere. She's like our second mom, and you know, even though she will run us to death. She always cared. And I think that's what brings to the table is what, you know, Rutgers straight. So I'm proud to say, I'm the scarlet Knight. I love that. What is your favorite? Scarlet Knight moment, like your favorite moment as a starlit night. What what was that day? What was that moment? It's been many. But I think the one that are really remember was when we beat it was tournament time. And oh seven when we we beat a Duke, we'd be Duke and great North Carolina. We were to Greenville reason. And I remember do beating us about forty earlier that season December that season. I was coming from a major injury and that Tom Cochrane too. She was probably I mean, we were probably the worst thing she ever coach in her life and. From. Going to laugh over in. We couldn't do anything and. You know, it's about forty and then come in during the incidental as when it was one of the most important games of our lives at the moment and beating them by one off of misery with like, you know, that was like one of the most memorable moments of my life. That was probably one of the biggest kinda rials that they had ever seen. And they probably had it was a setup a setup a failure considering how badly the team lost in the way that you all came back, and that was actually the elite eight that was the game. That took you out to the final four. I think. Yeah. Yeah. Man. No. It was on that would be what's that was that this week sixteen that was the I believe that was a Sweet Sixteen but it doesn't wound tournament though that set the tone. We we knew because we got over them at forty point men. Nobody was touching. Whoa. That is. So like that that that's just so special. That's so special. I think my next question for you. Let's see what the 'cause you are one of the modern players and in terms of this scene, Vivian stringer era. My question what being coaches had a lot of players to play in the WNBA. Why do you think you all have been so successful in the WNBA having played for co stringer? Oh, 'cause I meant to Tokyo, we know how to withstand whatever obstacle comes with. You know, we think that, you know, I'm situation, for example, where it was probably one of the most important women's about odds and to have that very important moment taking away from us. We couldn't you know, we couldn't. It was something that couldn't be taken away from us. So you know, we just had the moving from it. And you know, the, hey professionals at a young age, and you know, that's what I said. That's what coach Ryan big Nakada in the us. And and mental toughness is one of those things that she instilled she demanded, and I feel you know, I still whether in life right now, we still. Are able to withstand situation as matter. Talk a little bit about the whole team anything that's something that she's carried from Cheney to Iowa and Rutgers. What does team unity mean to you? I mean, everything because at the end of the day, you know, this is visited the woman you're spending most time with you're going through battles. You know? We'll see everyone at their ups and downs. It's a sisterhood. So 'cause we're always that's that to us, and we embrace it at at a even during that fun. What we embrace it took a lot of world politics. So realize that that's the only way we would win. And once she was able to get that to to us or we believe in it. There was no going back. So. Everything and Cochrane, you know, she did a great job making that disarming. What? I love that. I also would say that Justin and David and Nina made a lot of sacrifices for us with their mom and sharing their mom with a if you could say anything to just to Dave it just and Anina from her players. What would you want to say to them? Man. For one thing God for creating a special woman like coach friend, you know, they have a very they have angel and she will forever be remembered that that into the game of basketball, and to, you know, the young women that she made a different in their. So, you know, all I can tell you their mom their mom is phenomenal enough said your mom is phenomenal. And I'm like you. I think God that we were fortunate enough to be able to say that she was not only our coach. But she was like a second mom to a and I wanna thank you for your time today and for your insight about who co stringer has been to you and for you. So you take care of yourself, sweetie. And I hope to see you soon. Thank you. Thanks for having. We have with the Karen pie drawn to played on coach Stringer's team at Cheney state university. We've talked to several players but pie is one of co stringers players who got to know her when coach was just a few years older than the players that she was actually coaching. So coach has gotten heard legs under her. She's figured the coaching thing out, and she's the head coach at Cheney state top ten program when you come in and your group those to the final four twice you play in the first in a national championship game. Tell us a little bit about Bibi stringer the coach maybe in stringer the mentor talked to. Us about who. She was. So pumping recruited, you know, spending countless number of hours been recruited talking to the phone and stuff like that. And at that time, I believe David think they was born like especially like she highschool and she's being being created. So we pretty much came up with Justin. I'm David Nina. And and of course, Mr. saying, so she's very thin on still is. But in terms of coaching in at that time, I believe she was teaching as well as Mr. stringer. Yeah. Let's just say that I've stayed away from their clashes because I didn't change they were they did between the two of them talk really really bad and really in. According to some of the players that did have to take classes that'd be prepared. When she walked in. Would it be classroom city indoor on the basketball court show? I stayed on the basketball court, and that was it. But she was very. Thanks. That was my real close school understanding of how to breakdown basketball in terms of not necessarily watching video anything like that. But as a point guard ships eating lead in you would have what we call classroom shedding and stuff like that in depending upon number of plays. He will respond to before you had your breakdown every position not by just talking. But you also have demonstrate that five-way, oh, you know, throw on each play on what the options worries don't like that show you had to understand. And know what she wanted to get out, you know, each plan. So that's that's when she was. You know, what I really like about what you just said is that in order to be an effective coach you have to be an effective teacher. And it sounds like teaching was at the core of her coaching philosophy. Yeah. And on the needed students. I mean, you know, that they're not in in some regards. I mean once you point your finger, just okay? And this is what she's trying to get coffee. Yeah. You know? I think what I love is that in addition to teaching us plays. She told us so many other things just about just so many other things about how to be a woman if you wanted to get an idea of what it looked like to be a wife and a mother, and what it looked like to be a sister, and a friend. I mean, she was always teaching so many lessons. What what was the moment? You knew that having coach stringer as your coach was going to change your life. It wasn't necessarily a particular moment. But it was really then cooling process. You know, we wanted somebody to sort of like hope you be away from home love the game that you play in. But it was a will fit for me in terms of size of the school. But because you were leaving your family, you went to family, and once you have a family, they helped shape and mold you. So when she was recruited me and wasn't always about basketball, and to be honest with you, it was not really about about basketball at all. I mean religious, call just talk, and so developing real close friendship, and you just feel comfortable, and that's how I mean. That's why I wanted to go. And and it was only little thing. Whether she was, you know, putting together a table and student whatever. About on songs that were installation relation to host just talking about hosting brains. And when she went to school just watching her relationship with Mr. strenuous show on in her family, so she made us opponent. And she hoped moves in the better people. I would agree with the, you know, Cheney is where coach started slippery walk and Cheney kinda where she got her start. What is it that you think you and your teammates would? Would want us to know about the time spent at Cheney because you owe overcame a lunch. To with out that experience at Cheney and all of the hurdles that she had to jump. I think that. That's the coach that we would have today would be, you know, very different. But I think that those experiences early on. I had a lot to do with. The perseverance that we see today. What do you think about going higher agree that that, you know, you tune, you know, overcome obstacles, but everything is relative? So what they have seen impossible back. Then you're within your current time playing you looking at any deal with it. And you carry you on things from the past into the teacher into the president, and he learned to to to change in the debt. So her only teaching she bought some of those to us. But at the same time, it was current state, and that's what we've had to deal with and so on so you don't get the past. But you take a little bit. You mean move forward? And that's absolutely what she has done in this strength that she has shown and all of that. I thought it was so beautiful last night. So Cheney state alumni and the players were there, and it looked like, you know, where about twenty Strom or twenty beep and just smiles on everybody say it felt like they should have been playing in the background. I don't know if it's an OJ who it is that things that Li reunion because it really felt like a family reunion with three teen and one family, and she took the time to have the players from each of those respective teams. She brought out front last night after the game. And she spoke to each group of people. And then we all took a picture together kind of bringing together the thing. Three teen one CVS family wanted that mean to you to be connected with so many. Any exceptional women who coach had an opportunity to touch even those that you don't know like you, and I don't know each other. But I always feel connected to you. When I see you. I think it's it's it's sort of like a family trade. So have the person to mentor, and you have to the Twee foods that are you know, of that tree, and we'll all from one person and it's the game of basketball game of life. And each time. She may bring somebody back from one school or a pass play over the talk to that struggle kids trying to get to someplace better ways than you know, you know, canyon. No, no, don't give up each one teach one, and I always reached out to the point guards because that was my position. And just last night. I talked to a point guard was I had heard of play that chain y got exchange. Phone numbers with her last night because she lives in Connecticut that I'm going to call go have lunch, then I reached out to tasha and seeing television while talk about both in remember being treated me being there, especially at Rutgers and going over and having lunch mccone in talking about what she was going to experience. And then each and every time I did see her place. I would have a little conversation with her not necessarily about basketball behind you doing. And so when stick together, and I think that we coach each other. I think that's what to strenuous trying to get each one of us to do not that one team it's better than any other. But it's this game of basketball is just games. And we just wanna share you know, what we can in other from chain. You know, that's interesting too because the Cheney players called her mystery ner and then by the time she gets to Iowa we were calling coach stringer. So even that wasn't evolution in. Time. I think I'm I'm kind of consumed with with this person with this woman with this coach with this teacher and one of the things that in watching in taking everything in last night. What was your takeaway from that entire experience? Her capturing her one thousand win and the confetti all over the place and southlands of people in the building you said you got home around two thirty this morning. And I think I got back to South Carolina little bit after three this morning, and I woke up with this incredible feeling I'm just being consumed with lows and gratefulness. What was it that you walked away from last night? Sara Mony and experienced feeling. Well, it was somewhat opens only because I all you got to come together with former players from all these schools, whether you played with them or not introduced have everybody. They're ready to celebrate this one help guide us college student game with basketball at Bolton through life. You only need to see the bachelor her. She only wants the best for lunch. So the fact that we can get there. Sure. A couple of stories I wrote down with to to alumni from uh Chaney to guys who wanted to also experiences that when and so it wasn't just about the players. But it was about the community that she's involved with wanting to see her just well in. And I often tell them things about a think about the championship game that we did lose. And it's only be plays back in mind. If I'd only done this. You know, did that case might be. She probably would have got you at one thousand probably the day. What case might be? So you sort of think about those kinds of things and you just want the best for her. And it was a a wonderful feeling again just to see everybody there. You're looking saying, hey, that's close in place, but had school whatever that's going such because she tells the one stories about the different players that system. Yeah. I mean, he put it all well, this person did that or whatever. It anybody. But you hear the different stories. I don't know how she does it. But she does. I don't know how she does it either. In one of the things she always would say to us at the end of a game. If we lost the game. It was never really about. Whether we wanna loss, but how we played the game. She always focused on how we played the game. And how that was a standard that we had to hold ourselves of two. And it was just so special to see so many people who have who made the choice to whole themselves to a different standard and who were fortunate enough to have an opportunity to call the Vivian stringer coat, and that was really special pension see a coach in the video the tribute video that I know that she has been really fortunate and blessed to have had an opportunity to work with at Cheney say, and that was coach John Chaney and anything you like to say about their relationship. Oh my God. Just wanting again again by call the two guys last night. We're talking about that. And king j Keith Johnson. He was one of coach fees players using also coach and back. Then what we did was we would all the men and women's team would actually practice different drills together. And of course, you know, they would oftentimes cook bullish. So their relationship was found. I'm I'm thinking possibly that between the two of them. Probably just talking exiting olds all over the place. Strategize and stuff like that. But the fact that we were practiced together. Was phenomenal. And. It was just amazing because what you had were too great coaches, but the ability to speak in the storytelling, you just sit there and be mesmerized into. Okay. I can I can find little to train. I can't I cannot know. That's what you got on a day-to-day basis working with the two of them. And when they got together to scaly a beautiful thing. So it was great. And I think I read I really like about that is how co stringer is a very strong woman in her own, right. But I really love that we had an opportunity to witness her demonstrating respect for for men. She demonstrated a tremendous amount of respect for John chainey. But the respect she had adoration and love displayed for her husband, Mr. William Bill stringer is something that I will always cherish for the rest of my entire life. I don't know if there's. Another husband to a college basketball coach to was so at peace and supporting and loving and elevating his wife. So I'm I'm excited that you got to see Mr. stringer and co stringer on the front end of their relationship. And I got to see it on the back end. And it just was confirmation of what love really is. So I wanna thank you Karen pie. John for your time. And all of the ladies that Cheney state university who got this thing started along with the ladies at slippery rock, and I'm grateful for the lady said I played with at Iowa. And those who were there it was all guys and for the ladies from workers university coats, it at her one thousand wins or combination of the hard work that. We all put in. And so we are all grateful and bliss to have been witnesses and to be participants experience and the journey to one thousand wins. I hope that you all have a fantastic day. And thank you for enjoying and being a part of this podcast. Thank you very much. Was fortunate at the time that I was coaching where the mindset of the NCAA is was if you wanna be this. You have to play the best is fittingly. They were no the business. You can play division between three hundred snoozing this one and truly resume Cheney. Who was we're effort as we had what the two thousand business and playing you know, Tennessee and Verron 'cause they all the rest of because what we knew is it really isn't that where you come from it. It is where you know, you're going to do with what you have. And all they have got five and they've got a ball out there. That officials. Play. I can't believe it. Let Philip brought his little brother on our mission into orbit. How long until we get there alone till we get there. I'll get there. No. I can't believe how easy it was to save hundreds of dollars on my car insurance with Geico. What's this button downs? What's this? What's this button? Do this. Gyco. Goodson you fifteen percent or more on car insurance. I am excited to have Kathy conduct's there who was the self proclaimed future of the WNBA while she was still in high school in Chicago at Marsh. Oh, playing for a hall of fame coach in her own, right? Dorothy Gators, it's with me now and essence Carson who is a native of the state the Garden State of New Jersey and decided who stay home and create help to ensure shore up from the bait that Rutgers would remain a topic, our and women's basketball, so essence happy thank you so much for joining us. Both are WNBA all stars in their own, right and competed and won WNBA championship. So thank you all for. For being here to record sinus. So thank you. And also found out that both are residing in Los Angeles, though, LA is lucky to have two of the best to ever play the game calling at home still lady. My first question her you is. When co string or came to recruit you. What was it that made you decide that this should be the coach that you should send your talent invest your talents with in New Brunswick? What made you decide that? This was the coach that I should spend the next four years playing for in pursuit of NCAA championships and big east championships. For me. It was you know, it gave up the whole family atmosphere. You know, it was she was very family oriented, not I like that little workers wasn't too far from home. But at the same time, I was going to be heading into new phase of life, and you know, do much walking in to a totally new family. You know, what it was the team and I needed to feel comfortable, especially at that time where I was just super introverted and didn't really a lot. I just needed to be around people and around someone that can totally trust, you know, outside of basketball. And then, you know, on the court, she was you know, at that point. She was already one of the greatest ever, you know, coast again with basketball. So I need that. I can get the best outta my game. If I went there, you know, I can learn the most you know, from her. Thank you essence, Kathy. Same question. I mean, you know, like for me, my experience is so unique because like I was considered a high school fee nom coming out of Chicago back, then you know, like, I was heavily recruited by Yukon. So in my mind, that's what we're always going. And then my bench are at the time tasha pointer, she had decided to go to Rutgers which turned into me meeting coach LA because you know, I was around tasha every evening playing basketball. So when I met coach laws like young, she's like, she's so cool. You know, and then after that happened, and I had experienced USA basketball. All of a sudden Rutgers is in a picture now, you know, and it's and it's and it was truly because the coach stringer, you know, her infectious of energy and vibe that I got from her just from the the moment. I got on the phone where the moment that I saw her at my high school games, my Ayu games to her taking a home. Visit. I was just like, you know, what like this this woman, especially no don't even have to say many words, you feel her energy you feel her love her gene was spirit right away. And I think from that moment, you know, I just knew that that's where I was meant to be to be under her arms to be taught by her because my mom is the same way. And it just resonated. I just like it's the perfect place to be, you know, no questions about it. You know, a lot of people gave me a lot of backlash to not going to calm. But I think at the end of the day and this moment of time. They're the guy report me to go to Rutgers. And how special or is? Cathy. I think that you cutting out of set it better when coach stringer walks into a room for anyone important walks into a room there or consumed that space, and you know, that they are important than so I wouldn't even read what you completely. So you know, based on what you all both just shared. What do you think is co string or strongest personal quality because both of you talked about things that she has shared with you things you've learned from her. But when you think about her until tally. What do you think is strong as personal quality? Wow. I mean, ability the person there's definitely for strongest in my life. You know, she's been through so many things throughout their entire life. That you would think a woman a woman, and her profession would probably step away from the game on the shelf some time, and you know, except with me being completely, but she actually use each of those events that happen, you know, throughout her lifetime to to motivate her and just dressed her even further into greatness, you know, whether it's battling cancer and nothing worried about it. But still showing about practice showing up the games, you know, you know, right after driving a couple of hours to the daily for treatment. And what you know, you know, you know, usually someone asks you step away from the game and. Take time all you know, so undergo treatment, she's staying with it, you know. And then also with the death of her husband at all, you know, we should point career. That, you know, her daughter. There's so many things that you can you know. Talk about the guards spender that you you just look at it like, wow, it's women's definitely decide to persevere she made it through and she still managed to be, you know, a bright lights shining light and world that sometimes sees the guard, and you know, she's definitely motivate. You know, people wanted to do the same didn't give up and no matter what situation you come from or situation. You're in. That's awesome. Her ability to persevere, she is absolutely resilient essence. That's so well said, Cathy, what is co stringer strong as personal quality from your point of view. I think it's kinda tough to pinpoint one, you know, essence made a great point of her perseverance. But for me, I think I think she was just born the birth of nation of young women. I think she was born to do that. Because the type of women that come into her life that she raised from eighteen to twenty one. I mean, it's just we've all turned into something special. And I think God has given her that purpose specifically designed for her, and nobody would be able to handle the girls that she's handled and still managed to being their lives after fifteen twenty years, not even planning more. So for me that's been quality and just her ability to to raise him women. You know on last night they had the ceremony for coach stringer following the one thousand victories and the video included the the guys from TNT shack. Kenny Smith Charles Barkley, Ernie Johnson. And then the coaches who are already in the one thousand win club. Kobe Bryant pops up Whoopie Goldberg hub, the you know, the governor of the state of New Jersey. Is there the former, you know, athletic directors Bob McKay who made her a million dollars coach is there. It was just an unbelievable moment. Best bands. The former executive director of the WBZ a was there and Daniel Donahue from the WBZ a and care of different ESPN Rene around from the WNBA. It was done Staley and her staff was. There. Former coaches like Gillette law and Marianne Freeman. And it was absolutely incredible Angie Lee from Iowa just one of the most beautiful sites that one could see and Kathy you NS and folks have alluded to it. But for coach it's always been about more than just a win. And you could see the relationships and the people who treasure her than she treasures them. What are you all treasure most about your your relationship with co stringer like when people say, hey, that's my coach what makes that relationship with her? So special more than that just the basketball coach, can you help people to kind of see the essence of who she is. And what she means to you. Maybe there's a story you have the share about your relation. Ship. And when you knew that, it was truly an authentic relationships. That would withstand the test of time. Man. Wow. I mean, we all you know to go to. Talking a notch traditional route with the she love music. I was trained. And. What she did was. She said, you know, I come there if she learned how to play like the first movement of like, my Tanada, and I'm thinking that that's no way. Like, it's never gonna happen travel so much no time if something that you sit down. At once. I I went on my ficials. Visit she. Here. No. And she asked me play personal, and I was just ladies series. So she's dedicated once she religion or something. She you know, she she comes through. She threw with a word, and that myself that many realize that someone could trust and from that point on I knew that she would always have my back. I was about my grandparents, and you know, they both have passed on and going on. And you know, she made sure she was there at both homegrown going services. Even after I had already never program, and you know, well into my w NBA career, you know, she always leads that connection family connection. I really appreciate that about her because she's like mother, and you know, I think a lot more athletes need that in their lives. It's not only by the game of basketball. But it is about the game lifetime love that. Thank you essence capi. What are you most treasure? And is there a story or something related that keeps you connected to her? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I think about my junior year on my cousin was murdered in Chicago. And I was very devastated, you know, because he was like a brother to me, and I didn't I didn't know how to function in life after that for a long period of time. And I was gonna dark space. You know, I didn't care about school. I didn't care about basketball. I was just totally confused on why you know, such a great person was murdered and. I got kicked out of school because of stop doing my schoolwork and coach stringer. I I was literally going back to go back to Chicago and probably do nothing. No. Because I was I was that. I was I was especially in the dark place at a young age and just remember co stringer calling my mom, Kathy is not coming home. Happy going to get a job cap was going to be reinstated back in school. And I'm gonna make sure it happened. You know, my mind, I'm not thinking, I'm I'm being you know, young teenagers. I mean, a young adult at this time. And I'm just like no coach like, I really don't care, you know, like, I don't even care anymore and just her love that she poured only for the next month in combat all never ever forget. 'cause it was a moment where my mom wasn't able to be there for me because she living in Chicago. So. Not just remember the people that she constantly put around me to make sure that I was focused on getting back into school. And I just remember. Just her checking in when the every single day making sure I was okay. Make sure I got some food. Make sure I was working out this prepare myself to come back in school. And I just remember that being like when I came back. I remember it was so cool filling because we worked so hard in the short period of time that I was there that we were able to make us assessable end of the season going into the final four or whatever, you know, opposition wasn't NC double A tournament. But I just remember her just shooting me with so much love, you know, the love that the kinda love that. I need it from my mom, but it was hurt. Wow. Camping. I'm almost in tears listening. Here's talking about it all the time. That is like incredible. I have a picture on my wall. Of a guy a painting of a guy reaching over the wall. Like a hand pulling up another person. And you can't see faith is all you can see a hand. I think the United way also has like the thing that says people aren't asking looking for a handout just a hand. But the title of this pitcher the caption it says he ain't heavy like Gilbert young. And for me that's kind of what co stringer has represented. She's been pulling all of us up. And what's crazy is it's not just one of us. She's pulling up, but if all of and that's all that we have not been too heavy for her to give all of herself to us. And she says day after day. You know, she ain't having we ain't happy. You're not heavy. I got you. And I think we all love her so much for that. What do you think about at the end of the national championship game? They SPN interview or regain on Goma wa and she said if you wanna come to Notre Dame you wanna win championships come to Notre Dame. If you wanna win championship, you know, if you if you go to play for co stringer. What are you win? What do you gain? What are you earn? So much. You know, just you know, what I earlier just the the tangles like, you know, what it goes fast ball. Of course, we all love again back in about it one thing that has all the that life is bigger than sport that what you're gonna do for the next year. Birth. Exit. So if you wanna learn Bill characters learn how to win in life dental and life at. To be whether it's being above what we know. Sister'd on the you know. She definitely gets you. How to do that in another way? And and not only that. But also be able to export your town. Thanks on that. Doc any other program in the country at all it just you know, it's just a little bit of hey likely points that you know, we aren't that ball basketball players. You know, we play basketball. But that's not what we are doing. I, you know. And I think that we especially in a state that we are in at decided is very intricate. I mean, it's very, you know, important for us to learn how to be better who'd be and I love that. I love that. I love that. I'm thinking that you know, basketball is not a basketball is not a game. It's life. Let me show you the way let me show you how to play because I think with everything that coaches done. She's shown us how to not just play the game of life. But how to win at it? They kathy. This is the question like you. To answer. And then and then we'll wrap up, but I would love to know, maybe both of you. 'cause you're in the entertainer in that LA face last question, if there was a movie written about coach, or a film, if Oprah Tyler Perry did a movie about Stringer's life, who do you think should play the starring role of the Vivian stringer, and what might be things on? Oh, that's that's hard. That's too bad. You know, one answer either one who might play her starring role in essence in the music. So essence, you might tell me who what might be the things on. So Cathy, my place even being stringer in a movie. I probably have to go with y'all y'all right now because she's like young. And you know, she she's respecting the coaster in terms of like if you just I looking at her. So I would say, yeah. Yeah. Some of t-. She's she was on top model, but then she moved into the space of x acting. So now, I I would definitely go with her. But they music I let essence acid that. But I mean, I don't know. I think if she was have a movie about her life. It would it would definitely change so many people live. It was inspired so many people, and I think I'm glad we put that in the air because she deserves it. That thinks so too, and I see Angela Bassett playing her and her kind of later years, and I can't even imagine who would be able to get it done in those early years with so many people out there. Hey, what what you think what would be our things on? Well, one of his favorite song and dance dining McLaughlin. I've been dented probably finish out the movie beginning Roby, we thinking about like a soundtrack, you know, like some Stevie Wonder like his earlier days because those are things are, and you know, artists that she that she loves, and I like you said, I'm glad that we're putting into the air and into the universe and hopefully with the manifest some good energy, and it actually happens. But yeah, I'm gonna have to go with Johnny mclagan for things, but she his life that and then with her book the baby stringer the book about her life story. It's called standing tall, and it still available on Amazon and in any place where you can buy a book like Barnes and nobles. And so that that would be that would be great. I like that stand and. I agree with you both. It would be a story that would be well told and have been your careers have been willfully, and I know that co-starring stringer loves you both dearly and that just want to thank you for your time for your love. And for your dedication and commitment to the game. You both have been incredible role models. And I love you. Thank you. Katie Abraham Henderson at someone that I had an opportunity to play with my freshman year, and I and payday had transferred back in from the university of Georgia. She's home grown from the state of Iowa. And because of that you can understand why she would want to get away from the snow, but I am really grateful that payday the side of the come back, and it's funny. She didn't just get away from this. No now living in Orlando, Florida with Mickey and Minnie and coaching at the university of central Florida. But today, I want to ask you, Katie when you beside it to leave Georgia, you could have gone anywhere in the country that you wanted to go you were just that. Well, thought of and highly sought after as a player what made you decide to come back home and play because stringer. The university of Iowa. Yeah. I mean, it's such a, you know, the recruiting processes is it's a lot. And so at the time, you know, I thought in my head of the person that I wanted to leave home and actually coach stringer head just got the job on the tail end of me making my college decision. So I didn't know a whole lot about her. And I as a young person, I thought I wanna get away from home, you know, and that was what I really thought. And then I left home. And then I realize when my heart and my family and everything, and and so I spent you know, some really good years at Georgia to George had a lot of client experience, but it was more. So I was just so far from my family that was really big. And so having Bill coach stringer and Marianna Freeman was is coach there, and and knowing my family was closed and no one string. There was a family person. And you know, obviously, she had the the program had built up after two years, and it was still. A great program. And so, you know, I was very very lucky that coach during was willing to take me back and we actually had played into AA tournament. Georgia play the NC double A tournament Iowa. They're there at a different playing in the in a different game. So all the I coaches, so again, and you know, everybody was just awesome. So after that year, I decided no maybe I wanted to go back home until very grateful that coach during her and her coaches took me back. Katie. I also ask you that. I felt like there were so many lessons that we learned along the way, and you're not both had the pleasure of playing what Michelle Edwards when she was the national player of the year. And there were some core lessons that coach stringer. I think the pot make you know, deposited into a I'm not sure. But is there anything that you have taken from your experience as a player with her that you now attempt to transfer or make deposits into your own players at central Florida as well. And you know, all any or southeast Missouri today you've been at this for a while. But what is it that? You've carried with you. Yeah. I think there are you know, I've I've been very less to play for two hall of fame coaches and work with some hall of fame coaches to and I feel like I've taken some from everyone and from coach stringer. I think two of the. Biggest things for me that I still in still in my players here at UCF in Albany. And you know, wherever I've been is family. I I mean that was something that was coach stringer, and that's not our family. That's basketball failure the athletic department family. You know, our our teammates are sisterhood coaches everything. I mean, that's family thing. I mean, I have family up on my wall. You're my office that UCF I have family with one of our pillars for the programs Macree, ding. So I think that's I think the second biggest one is coach during uses different words, but mine is empowering young with it. I mean, and that she doesn't want her women to feel less and on the basketball court, but also in the life that is one of her biggest thing she's just coach stringer just does not want any woman to feel like they're less in the world. And so she really instilled that in me, she still. Instill doesn't news all of our players that no basketball is to end. And so when you prepare yourself for life. I don't want you to feel less got empower themselves. We got empower you as strong young women to go out in the world and be great be great. And whatever you choose to do. And I think that word in use power all the time. I think that's something that she really instilled in b and she really instilled in everybody else. I like that. If you had to make the team unity thing was really big for us as players, and we didn't just say the words, we live those words and even till today. I think that we all know that if we needed each other we count on one another what would you say in your opinion will be co string legacy now as a coach as a very successful coach who you have let your team to conference championships, you wanna WN IT championship. And you understand and you get it that winning is important. But I think he said a moment ago. It's not everything. What do you think? In your opinion will be co stringers legacy to the game. I think a great leader, great room mater, great fighter for women score. It's a great fighter for diversity in in in close in women scores. I mean holy smoke. I mean, all the things over the years. I mean, she started out coaching at chaining where we get paid. And for women. They are offer. There's an offer everything. And then she came to Iowa those fought for us and everything we did and being that role model, energy or minute you watching their feet washing. Her be watching wife and be watching mother he watching her going through struggles. But still staying long and never letting your failures define her just, you know, tough times never loud, but tough Goud that with her and so such a great role model in our is watching her. And so when we saw her, you know, some struggles, and she didn't really bring it to us that much. But we saw it would made us strong made us wanna fight for her. You know? And I think she's done that Iraq was to all the things that that she's been there. And there's other things she's been through that. She probably didn't tell a lot of us, but she's such a fighter, and she's such a strong young strong strong human being that I think as young women of every race every nationality every up in the city that you look to somebody like that as a role model 'cause women don't have a lot of strong role models in the world today. And so that's what I look at her as like a really strong role model, and you can you could be any race nationality, ethnicity, whatever, and you can find something about her that she you wanna be like her because there's just so many positive, and she's just so strong. She's you know, anybody woman, but she's just so at least I like wrong, I never it'd be. We got never saw her. Down. I never saw her when he of those things, and so she was such a great role model to all of us and still is still is when here speak. You just you just you just get him feel empowered. Because as a woman you wanna be that in life and not let anybody make you feel less. I think that is an incredible or sponsor that is a really good which bonds, you talk about coaching or being a fighter and not wanting us to always even know what she was dealing with when she was battling breast cancer while head coach at Rutgers her staff even know she was leaving the state to go and get her treatment. And they just thought she changed her hairstyle like black women. Do we kind of transformed into all of these different people based on our hair? But I love I think India are- had phone. I am not my hair and stringer Pugh proved that even though she's very genteel and very professional and very classy and very lady like then I'm thinking like hair whatnot defined her or her look because her look and her beauty always resonated from the inside out, and I just like the choice of the word. Biter because she's a survivor and Katie you've been surviving as well. And I'm just so proud, and I know that co-starring or proud of the job that you're doing and that you chose to enter the profession that she made her life assignment. Thank you for taking time away from practice. Is there anything else you would want to say that maybe we didn't capture? Yeah. I mean, I think there's there's not a lot of because I'm the head coach and his business, and there's not a lot of people left that is that are gonna reach a thousand wins. I mean, that's crazy. That's a remarkable feat. And I don't think in this business anymore. That coaches are going to be have that staying power. I mean, she has big time staying power because he knows what she's doing. But more importantly, she has a lot of staying power because you really is fighting for women and equality for women in in in the sport in in in an. I think that a thousand wins. I mean, that's that's a hall of fame coach that that's very hard to come by. I don't even know what mine is maybe four hundred. I will definitely might make it thousand that's a long way away. No, I'm getting older. So what she's done is remarkable all the places she's been to be able to get two thousand. That's that's just amazing. I would agree with they lack in Kurt. I could occur. Babe. You on your way to at least get into five hundred and the next two years. So now that all of your devious sisters are rooting you on that. I love you. You have a great day at practice. So thank you. Love it too. We just wanna send a huge thank you to Felici hall. Alan in all of the guests who have made this podcast so special. We hope the fans enjoyed it. We hope you now have a better idea of the impact of coach c Vivian stringer. Congratulations to coach stringer on one k good luck to Rutgers do the rest of the season. And we hope that you will continue to download listen to around the rim podcast. You can find us on the ESPN app or whenever podcast at you used just go in search around the rim. You can find us on Twitter at around the rim. Pied you can Email us at around the rim podcast at g mail dot com. On twitter. I am at la-. China Robinson to Rica is at she knows sports underscore. So he does up with comments ideas thoughts suggestions shares. But thank you so much. But before we go you've been hearing snippets of an interview that coach finger head with our J hem of ESPN, and we're gonna finish off this podcast with the rest of that interview. We are grateful today into coach stringer for the sharing. And we hope that you pick up even more nuggets than you already have throughout this podcast. So we hope you enjoyed the interview we will see next week. General night on ESPN radio. I'm Jay Reynolds. Joined now by coach c Vivian stringer who picked up career win number one thousand earlier tonight, as you know, becoming just the fifth coach in women's basketball history. Six d one night overall coach what does this achievement mean to you? Well, it means that that I've lived them of had two minutes people that into ministry, supportive and goddess allows me to be surrounded with people that really believe in the visit that I've been it was this year, and I'm grateful. I'm truly grateful. You're talking about the people who have been supportive there were there was some note worthy people in the stands tonight. The governor South Carolina coached on Staley. What does that say to you? Well, you know, what I I feel fortunate. I wonder while you know, they appreciate that. Anyone would take the time as that'd be the thing that came out. So many of of my coaches that that I was a part of that came in from Iowa City and players that came from Iowa City recognize on my sisters and brothers came from everywhere. I had a player that flew in from Hawaii. It's like, oh, I mean, that's me know that you know, maybe I'm doing some things. Right. People cared enough to to wanna smile and celebrate it I am so four, and I appreciate that that they did that. And you know, sometimes, you know, they say, well, you can never know what you need until something happens. But I'm grateful that everybody says they their love and who to what they think of me now, and I can never thank you. And all the people who've get me that that three benefits as. Mutters beating central Connecticut state earlier tonight giving coach c Vivian stringer win number one thousand we mentioned there's not a lot of coaches who have come in their win total. What do you remember about win number one? Anybody asked me, and I really honest to goodness cannot tell you because I don't know. I really don't I was still excited. I was so if I did fortunate, but but I honestly never win number one. If I had known that we were gonna be dismissed, and then I would have to it end point of difference. You know, what when you think about this whole incident, you know, I, but I really didn't know we have never schools play. But I think that as you know, with a fortunate at the time that I was coaching where the mindset of the NCAA is was if you wanna be this. You have to play the best is certainly it wouldn't know the business you can play division. You can be three hundred Susan for this one and truly. I mean Cheney who was where I I saw it as we had but two three thousand students and playing you know, Tennessee, and Maryland and Penn State and all the rest of because what we knew is it really getting that where you come from it. It is where you know, we're going what you do with what you have. And as long as they have five we've got five and they've got a ball every fficials display, and that's been on this been a mindset, and you know, as long as we can continue. You too for some people like that. What got same mindset and not mine about, you know, money's anything equipment nothing. That's just play that. I feel very fortunate to do because of game that I love so much truly has progressed in developed over the course of the years, but you mentioned the mindset of the players and and giving their age, they're human beings. How is coaching a game like this where there's a milestone outside pressure. How does coaching change for you and keeping the players focused. Well, you know, there are a lot of a lot more things that have on television war attraction that is of tribe's player. It's the play the next level. There's parents that are involved in life. You know, take children to training camps and helping them become more specialised than and what they do with an eye toward playing at the next level. I like it better when you just play for sake appoint it's all pray for the sake of plane. That's it. Coach Vivian stringer picking up career win number one thousand tonight with the win over central Connecticut. Coach graduations, thanks for joining us here on ESPN radio so much so much that. Like that. Listening to round the checkout more podcasts from ESPN on the ESPN. Geico presents eyewitness interviews with inanimate objects. This is Belinda Collins live on the scene of a recent hailstorm here to describe the events of all, bro. I was just hanging on the roof. When this gnarly storm starts dropping baseball sized hail. The singles got beat up if you windows broken was savage. Did you do anything to help membre? I was in survival mother football can't help you when a hailstorm, but the gun go insurance agency can help you get covered for personal property damage. Gyco to see our Ford -able homeowners insurance can be.
Friday Before Labor Day Show Start
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Relocating threatened koalas to New Zealand
"This is a CBC podcast. Matt Galloway This podcast from January sixteenth edition of the current. Put them in the blanket and bring it breaks your heart there. The Australian animal lovers rescuing doing a badly burned Koala just one of the many videos showing injured animals and habitat destroyed by those devastating bushfires this week the Australian government pledged something like fifty million dollars to rescue and protect wildlife affected by these fires and that includes Koalas are at risk of being classified as endangered in neighboring New Zealand. And people want to help by bringing the coal is there a petition started by a group calling itself the Koala Relocation Society already has more than eleven thousand signatures. Yes and it's growing Andrea Byrom ecologist and director of New Zealand's Biological Heritage National Science Challenge. We've restoring Christ's church Andrew. Good Morning. Good morning when you heard of this idea. What was your initial reaction ahead? An interesting reaction isn't a columnist. I completely understand where people are coming from the images images as you see it on your introduction have been gut wrenching and Har flying in just like the Knicks Person I was really quite horrified. Refunded magnitude in the devastation of defies in Australia. And we will want to do something to help. But on Nari from experience and and from my personal race itch bringing spacey's to other count- trace and introducing them to places where they haven't been previously is never gonNA the idea. People have suggested in light of this petition that if you introduce Koalas to New Zealand in area that they're not native to they could become an invasive species is is that your understanding it's always had product how weighing in with an animal or introduced as spacey's will become an invasive advice of spacey's sometimes they aren't answered by definition advice to cause problems for humans or for other pots what's of the front of Flora and fauna in the acre system. And we don't really know how bad that unpicked would be in debt part of the problem a load out of J.. Diligence would need to be done on something like that. New Zealand has very strict regulations about bringing a new space. Is One of the strictest regimes James by security regimes in the world because we have a lot of things that we want to critique. Have there been issues in past where species have been introduced an I'm and created and caused problems. Yes we've had lots of spacey's here in New Zealand To the introduction all's out particularly mammals that our problem in this country but not in other countries for example in New Zealand way that she got Australian brushed out possums that were introduced joist here in the eighteen hundreds of the industry and likewise we actually have weasals and starts from from Canada from Europe. We also hey numerous other spacey's Retz Masaryk she invasive here in this country New Zealand Three species of bets as night of memos on our lands. But apart from that we didn't have any night of mammals birds hang in we want to critique the what you came from Canada what what what animal came from Canna. Well actually you'll weasals have come here and so we Beautiful animals Canadian ways altogether word for it that absolutely wonderful little predecessor end Canada really respect them but unfortunately I hear that. Become a problem. Nate it lots and lots of Not Leonide of booths votto cy. Beautiful Lizards and insects as well. Some of our big insects are actually actually quite a clinic in the rush. How would the weasel get from Canada to New Zealand? That's a long way. They were introduced by humans again in the icing. Hundreds and people thought thought to do this partly for fear industry in the case of the Mastella family which we are in the raisins. Were that by the idea. Yeah behind that was that perhaps I could control the rabbit population which had been introduced from Europe and already become a problem here. Said people have tried. They sorta ecological experiments in the past few lack. Neither gone well if you those are all very serious issues if you put them decide if you can. Do you think that the Koalas could potentially survive in New Zealand. Well it's very hard to know. The constitute Christian like damage New Zealand Does Not Have Eucalyptus Trace or spacey's which has the mind of the Koala is a native spacey's but what we do have is introduced. You look just for the forest received Petition is aiming for us to bring the Koalas Wallace to New Zealand's. Two dollars trace so I would say the chances would be reasonably good if the situation with the quality and Australia were to get worse And people have talked about the possibility that if these fires continue and and people are worried about the fires on the the habitat of if the quality's in addition to the quality's themselves and that they could wipe out their food supply. If that were to get worse T- think that New Zealand should seriously consider this proposal. Even though there are those potential problems that you've laid out I mean obviously if it came to the really critical stage that's where the the Zorro Zorro seek Zeke Dude does come into play sorry for example that you get to the point where you have to make the decision to bring animals into captivity. Eighty in Nets Neva. Good it's got to be a last-ditch decision on Migrating Ama- personal viewers that we should be focusing on rehabilitating systems in Australia in sitting up policies and practices that enable Australians to do this The Araj these bang alleging amount of habitat lost in Australia. We should all be worried about it. Not only for the quality actually but because humans are dependent on these systems to and I think. That's the harsh reality. It's really hitting high in Australia right now. But it should be hitting home for Louis which should be critiqued in rehabilitating systems systems in putting funding into the age and such a way that Koalas can live in the natural habitat. I mentioned there. Are something like ten thousand signatures already on this petition and people have left comments as well. I just want to read a couple of them for you. One is do the right thing and bring them to New Zealand. It would be devastating to lose the Koala and other one. Koalas are too precious to become extinct. We have the resources. So let's how help. RC brothers out. It's worth a try. Do you think that we can gets and you could get too hung up on the idea of the species being invasive and that in the grand fights that's people in Australia and right now That that is a distraction from trying to save the species. I mean that's a really good question human judgments about spacey's end with allowed way. They live and with our invasive will not is always gonna be exactly that just a human judgement but again I keep coming back to. I came more. I think about the Koalas harm and the whole system. We should care a badge. All of the spacey's in systems. Not It just the Koala because as a whole system. That's what supports the Koala. It never goes well when you salacious Spacey's away from its whole ecosystem Chris System so to my mind I think that the the papal main well and it's always really important to acknowledge alleged People want to try and do something to help. But if h of these people that have signed the petition just are knighted. The process for example of a cup of coffee. I think it would make a huge difference to rehabilitation a log wildlife species in Australia new natural harm. So you're right. It's humans we can get a little bit too hung up on some concerts but at the same time the concepts that we should be focusing on his ecosystem rehabilitation part out of this about the fact that they are really cute animal. And it's easier in some ways to focus on that then to your point focusing on the larger systemic issues. Yes indefinitely definitely isn't a college. I always feel it like on the one hand Get a little bit frustrated when I say that. Because I I always say spacey's He's is part of a whole system but on the other hand. I think it's great that people here in a second. If the COA is a flagship for the other all the problems that this whole situation his highlighted the nets really good thing. We should be sitting up paying attention to the plight of the Koala in ooh other animals and the plants aimed will that the functional pot solicit them that we think about like the soil productivity and so on the hit they impacted in this terrible situation. Y just want to end their. We're on the other side of the world in watching this for us has been has been awful and heart wrenching and devastating. What does it like for you? This is this is your work and To See this closer than we are I mean. Obviously you're not right next door but closer than we are. What is it like for you to see the scale of these fires fires and and what they're doing isn't a college Est.. It's horrified because I think it's really important linked to make it between green climate change in body versity loss at we were personally a impact on a New Zealand as well. She had a lot of smoke from the Australian. Bushfires us at its affected the light and the SUMMA headquarters Orange Lodge. We've had some sunsets that way would rather not have hit thinking about the devastation across the ditch. Is We cool it. I appreciate you talking to us about this. It's it's so personal for so many people in and that's why I guess when people are signing this petition asking for For greater efforts to try and save this population Andrew. Thank you so much. You're welcome. Thank you Andrew. Byrom is Nicola. GIST director of New Zealand's Biological Heritage National Science Challenge. She was in Christchurch for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS GO TO C._B._C. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts.
#5 Breath (Binaural Remix)
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Thanks so much for being here, though, strictly speaking, I'm not by true form exists on a pen, dimensional spiritual terrific. Now, there's a lot going around these days about air pollution. But you say you found the answer. That's right. Most of us are so full of toxins that we can't even leave the house without a mask and an oxygen tank, but I send but it's monks who live in lanes and they meditate in open air unprotected they breathe so scarcely their hearts beat so slowly that they can survive outdoors for eight or nine hours, and they taught you. These method. Yes, they would take me out into the cornfield guide. My breathing. I didn't realize there were cornfields in the Himalayas. Oh, I met them at a conference in peaks video which is a deeply spiritual. Let Swami air pollution causes heart disease lung cancer. Well, now, let's not get ahead of ourselves. I'm not saying I have the cure for cancer. What I am saying, however said if you use my methods, your cancer will go away. Well, Swami such Araj niche. It's such a pleasure. Would you like to lead our studio audience in quick meditation happy to and if you're watching at home, please find a comfortable sitting or lying position free from distractions? Now, close your eyes and begin to breathe with men. And. Rosenberg come on in 'cause it or would you Mr. garrison? It's so great to meet us Wayne have. Have. So tests masters nineteen in a PHD at twenty four which would all be impressive. If I gave shit. This interview will consist of exactly one question. Tell me tests. What is a corporation? What is I don't know if you've ever met a CEO before? But you should know that there's two things we C E O's hate paid family leave and repeating ourselves. I'm sorry bygones. But listen, real careful this time, what is a corporation. I don't think I understand people. Don't lots of people think corporations a person, and there we are in a sense collective organism. Like, an ant. 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Can iPad Pro Replace Your Laptop Now?
"Okay. So when I first reviewed the ipad, pro last November, I focused on the seriously amped up hardware design, I figured the IRS twelve software story hadn't really changed. So there was no point in revisiting it. Many of you, of course, allowed yourselves to retort and you were. Right. So two weeks later, I redid my review, I went over why I felt the ipad pro was less laptop replacement and more laptop alternative. And then I went through a few of the ways I was hoping apple what improve the software in the future to take better advantage of all that new hardware. Well, that future is now I O S thirteen and ipad, west yes, the ipad still runs thirteen with just the beginnings of some ipad differentiation. They offer some major enhancements to the ipads capabilities. I'm not going to review it or review. It now all the new software is still all up in beta. So it wouldn't just be premature, it would be downright silly, ever. Everything from performance. Just ability to implementations can and will change over the next couple of months. This fall though, once apple ships all the new bids game on instead, what I'm gonna do right now, in this video is go down my previous list from that previous video everything I said, I needed to make the ipad pro in specific, but any modern ipad in general, my main machine and see at least in theory, how far it's all come hit. Subscribe three touch away. No long press that bell, mostly don't miss any of the videos. I have coming your way all of this week, and then let's do this. I'm Rene Ritchie. And this is vector. Apple solved photo in video access in the early days of with the image picker and photos at it took them years to solve it for anything else though with document picker and the files app. Likewise, we've had the ability to import photos, videos over USB SD card for a while now. But with thirteen. You can now do it with any file it safer, and more secure than how a MAC or PC works because ignores, execute Ables. Sorry, still no side loading. It focuses only on data and that means there's way, less of a surface area for malware to attack plug USB straighten or breakout, your favorite Dongo for USPA SD or lightning, and your files will just show up. You can even mount samba shares to get your networking on apple also created an entirely new security, first USB stack to support it, it sandbox, of course, supports only files. No execute Ables and should be hardened against any current juice. Jack or other malware attacks, it works on every ipad, USB pros, and traditional lightning alike, and on, I phone at ipod touch as well, literally anything that runs thirteen and because photo still has to win you can now images and videos directly into editing apps as well. No preloading necessary everything. For and more. Yes, it was born with this giant multi touch screen just begging to be multi touch d-. But sometimes it's just not Ergen. Amac convenient or optimal. I O S thirteen offers much better. Keyboard support, both for shortcuts and for navigation while I'm going to have to play around with some more. Apple says we should be able to navigate completely fully just with the keyboard, which is honestly again, more than I hoped for also, though they didn't build off something like the apple TV, focus, you, I and used a cyst of touch instead they've managed to provide a form of mouse and track pads support as well. It's not really a pointer system since I o s was never built with that gooey concept in mind, but it's kind of like a targeting system. You put the crosshairs where you want them and had any interactive element. You want apple sees it as an accessible feature, and that's where you'll find that in settings. But as apple and many of us have said repeatedly excess ability really is for everyone anytime, if you. Add-in voice control, which I covered in my previous ipad, video apple has made it so you can control your ipad using whatever interaction method is better few in any given moment, not by grafting it to a MAC or PC paradigm, but by making it more capable unto itself. This is all also available to phone ipad, touch any I o s thirteen device. And again when more time way more than I expected load read it or YouTube, or any, Google site on your Pat and prior to last week. What did you get chances are the iphone optimized version of the page stretched out mockingly across a big ipad screen? It was part legacy. With ipad, presenting mobile safari, and supporting more mobile than desktop browser features part laziness with even the big companies failing to do the media calls necessary to distinguish the tablet from phone, or putting any extra work at all into supporting the bigger screen while all I was hoping for was the ability to set get desktop version on a per site, basis, like. Apple added a while back for reader mode. What we got was so much more full on MAC class. Safari for pad. Now, as far as I know, those websites didn't do anything to help here, but apple a ton of heavy lifting, including adding support for specific web application programming interfaces like visual of you port that would make even G suite just work. Apple also, added support for pointer events which abstract away the difference between mouse or track tight interactions, and touching her actions for websites that have adopted them, and hopefully this will encourage a lot more websites, especially the deeper and more complex websites to do just that balancing showing a full desktop site with making everything legible on sometimes much smaller. Ipad screen was also considered especially when it comes to many, and side by side or slide over safari views there, it'll still default to the mobile version, if when that makes more sense, all of this is also available in the safari web controller so that any. That embeds web, you will get all of this goodness for quote unquote free. There's also a download manager thirty of your favorite keyboard shortcuts. The ability to save tab sets control tech size, which is great for excess ability and adjust settings per site. And more, I wish I had done this years ago, but equity original ipad pro shift, but I'm really glad they put in the time and polish to do it now. Now apple did kinda sorta gimme a couple other things I asked for in my future of video linked below, including at least the potential for theme kit with semantic dynamic colors. And while we didn't get a font kit, we did get fonts as apps, which could end up being worse, better, or just different, but solves a whole bunch of other problems. But one of the things I asked for, but still haven't gotten is the ability to handle more complex workflows, specifically in my case podcasting on the MAC, I can fire up communication. Software like FaceTime, or Skype recording software like audio hijack. Call recorder even QuickTime record my aunt record all ends and end up with the tracks. I need to edit together show on the ipad, even running, I O S thirteen and ipad. Wes, it's still doesn't look like I can do that locally on a single device. Even an audio recorder the way we get a screen recorder would be great, providing apple could push a warning to other IOS devices at the audio is being recorded anything that could make that workflow work would go a long way to making the ipad, just work for growing swath of audio professionals apple surprised, a lot of people, including especially developers by announcing swift UI their new declared of interface builder for X code. It's part of Apple's ongoing efforts from s to the swift language to reinvent their foundational technologies without having to rip and replace the entire stack all at once like they did almost two decades ago with next what apple didn't do, though, was bring any. Any of that to the ipad? No ex- code for pad. No swift, you I designed tools for. I Pat no nothing. At least not yet, when apple launched the I Pat, it launched amazingly creative and productive tools with it. And following it like Araj ban. I'm movie and the I work. Sweet since then other companies have made amazing apps like fair for podcast, editing affinity for photo editing. Luma fusion for video editing. Python Easter for development but adobe still hasn't been able to ship. Photoshop and apple still hasn't said anything about logic, pro ten final cut protests or. Yeah. Ex code. It's possible like adobe. Apple is wrestling with the memory and screen size constraints of the ipad, no eight or sixteen gigabytes much less. One point five terabytes of ram and no sixteen twenty seven or thirty two inch display options. At least not natively not unless you plug the latest ipad pro into an external USB display. But maybe also with the nature of ipad versions themselves. Adobe is careful to say they're bringing real. Oto shop to the ipad real not full. That means it's built using real adobe Photoshop code, but it's not providing the full set of features Photoshop has grown pay bloated to support over the last few decades. So for some workflows and may be nearly full for others. Not nearly hit all for Photoshop and likely for final cut protest, logic pretend and yeah. Ex code. What should be brought over? And what can be brought over needs to be figured out before the ipad can take that next big step forward. We finally gotten multi user on IOS, but only for apple TV and home pot. Depending on your needs and point of view that either makes perfect sense because of the more family oriented nature of those living room devices or it's yet another Shambo in your wishlist, oaths and dreams. I'm personally lean towards the latter because apple does provide a form of multi user for Pat already one that predates both apple TV and home pot. But only for schools, I realize it's way easier to implement on streaming boxes and manage devices, which is. Why those are probably the ones that have already been implemented, but everything from guest board. So I can just lend might vice to someone at a conference who just wants to check something out on the web, or a school board so kids can be locked to approve set of absent capabilities like guided access. But from more than one thing at a time to the ability to switch account if the ipad is the family, computer would still be great. Of course. My big ask going back almost five years was for ipad s and. Wow. Did I did all of us get that this year, including not just all the quote unquote, if you can drag it, you can drop into its own window multi instant multitasking, but a new denser home screen that even lets you do something else, I asked for have the minus one home. Screen widgets available on home screen prime. And yeah it's all shades of ironic ipad today on the home screen the same year dashboard was finally killed off. Completely on the MAC live on his spirit. Little widgets, apple has even melded three touch with long press not just cigar. Difficultly reducing interactive complexity and collision, but it's made things like home screen shortcuts. Work on the ipad now as well. It might just be mostly name for now. But like I said, in my last video the power of the ipad OS name is exactly what the ipad has always needed. Now, if you wanna be ready to take full advantage of all the new capability and productivity. Checkout skill share. Skill share is an online learning community over twenty five thousand classes in video audio business in more premium membership gives you unlimited access to high-quality classes on must know topics. So you can improve your skills unlock new opportunities and do the work you love checkout. Thomas Frank of YouTube, and college info, geek, he offers the productivity masterclass learn to create a simple customize productivity system that will transform your personal and professional life, allowing you to go after your dreams and achieve your goals. Join the millions of students already learning on skill share today and get two months of unlimited. It'd access to over twenty five thousand classes for free to sign up, visit Lincoln, the description and start learning today. Thanks, go here. Thanks to all of you for supporting the show. So with Iowa's thirteen an ipad can the ipad pro finally replace your laptop trick question. It always good for some people and still can't for others just like asking, if a MAC book and replace your MAC. It depends entirely on what you want need to do with it. It's why apple still makes both still announces new versions of both at the very same events and why some people like me still use both with thirteen and I had a west. The Snyder has definitely moved far closer to yes. For far more people is becoming less about what you wanna do and more about how you wanna do it. I'll dive deeper into all of this in my, I thirteen and ipad previews and a couple of weeks and my full on reviews, this fall for now hit like if you do hit subscribe, if you haven't already and then hit up the comments and let me know what did I, Pat, a west cross off your wishlist, and what still remain. Thank you so much for watching and see an expert.
Hour 1: Who's On The Board?
"US is weekly spot celebrity prognosticator at twelve thirty a new celebrity prognosticator L. hasn't is in studio leads art is back this is the Dan Le Batard show with Stugatz podcasts same Gurjin eleven o'clock he will join we've we've been living in a in a world that isn't supposed to exist so it's been five years and he just sounds beaten up fifteen years the warriors have dominated this sport here Steve Granted agape this is more of the reality of the NBA then the last five years last decade they've ruled the sport the last decade after six years seven years a decade let's leave it at a decade okay the last few the even though we think that stars can wave a magic wand and make all the problems disappear but the warriors have serious systemic issues particularly on the defensive end five hundred I feel like it was six years I feel like it was six six or seven probably the last decade let's call it the last decade let's just okay good two fronts Westbrook and Hardin and you're gloating ready I walked in this morning I mean gloating and he's gloating about the no his gloating Mike He is gloating about the aim one he sounds like it's game seven of the finals at that voice I've had a rough couple of weeks is this the new norm for the Golden State Out Avoid Okay we know the answers a mean has been gloating where do you WanNa start here because you were right onto fronts I said on around the horn yesterday the the it's a it's a daily thing yeah right yeah they've switched the breakfast on the hotel premises it used to be at the hotel property next door and three weeks ago they moved it over here three weeks it's after the game kind of listen to the Golden State Warriors have ruled the sport now for what six years I guess five years five six years at so Steve Kerr Russian was how long would it take for Westbrook to get sick of James Harden I said by the end of tonight I was wrong it was by the end of the first half you are right on in state warriors yeah he is because I said hey this team could still make it to the NBA finals and maybe they will and I said no way last night they were blown out by the clippers and again I'm not talking about the stars to know where to go where to be at all times and that they'll figure it out the new normal is this is what what he's saying is this is what the real NBA is like how would they know that you're not saying are staying here we are the longest tenured hotel goes to hotel guests that I would have it I don't know Sam Darnold and that I don't think they have the personnel to figure out your beating the warriors by twenty points nineteen points libbers without Paul George Yeah crazy right I I can't blame them like how exciting come upstairs delightful buffet I feel like that buffet has been here the entire week you just haven't seen it like is there I think it's every morning we're guys that aren't basketball genius when guys who aren't instinctive and with a wealth of experience to lean on where you have to teach and Yell and control and remind Whoa on the rockets front you said by the end of the night I said by nine fifteen eastern and even I was wrong I give them too much time but but from the warriors do this over and over again that's what a regular NBA team has like right at the high end they don't have the kind of evolved pass that for Golden State they've only known that as far as Steve Kerr knows he's only known having brilliant people in his locker room I I was watching that game and I was stunned at how few players I even knew that you're getting considerable playing time for the Golden State Warriors first off just you've swapped out Kevin Durant for Glen Robinson the third that's tremendous is this is the conversation we had yesterday it's nice out three stars I'm not saying three stars is a bad thing I'm just saying guys four through fifteen matter to even though we don't want to having what's the matter with you Chris you have definitely grabbed some bagels right I know I have I'm sorry I don't feel right speaking on this comment because he can't guard anybody yeah and that's the big difference between your your Grandad's warriors whether you want to call them and these warriors now Steve Kerr had some interesting common so I feel like there's no way I could ignore the smell of burning Bagel kind of feel like you get here have you guys grabbed any of that getting it from Damian Lee they weren't getting it from Jacob Evans they weren't getting getting it from Eric Paschall something tells me we're not going to be seeing a lot of games teno run by himself but these are some of the names like Eric Paschall Scowl thirty one minutes whatever I mean I never heard of it where he's getting carried the normal isn't getting killed by by twenty the new normal is that you can't just expect the players that you have on the roster exits here in his ivory tower judging these names while yesterday he told me that Kendrick Nunn is the type of talent that teams tank for he looks like I heard his name and don't like US Josh Hearts name as if that's like Oh yeah the Josh Heart Controversies Nice player is a big deal you can do he's on the hot seat yes I know there's always listen there's only so much you can do but you still have steph curry draymond green and de Ngelo Russell is it is it for US stores it for the people saying definitely not for hotel guests but I've given thought how would they stop you right you didn't even notice that I made up Kyle grant a R I was too busy trying to point out the dailies Kevin Billy put it on the poll Kevin Durant Watch every second of last night's warriors game and a bit of irony draymond green a minus thirty five yes minus cabindans Jordan Pool Damian Lee Gray Damian League brother-in-law Bowman brother-in-law Maury Spelman a list so ridiculous occurs brother-in-law. Thanks stuff flexing your knowledge show man minute push shawl scowl it's loss in Steve Kerr's career as coach playoffs included he does run the risk of being exposed this year I mean it's not exposed it's there's only so much off you have his dad playing for you it was I was shocked by that as well it was supposed to be the Angelo Russell though right I mean he plays healthy Russell actually played kind of well like he wanted rookie you'd be satisfied after tank job job well done and they could've used Kendrick Nunn in his twenty four points in his NBA debut because they were Shaw now Jacob Bevan's Jordan Paul Kyw Bamut who are these people Amari spelman for him he's the no not exactly defensive stalwart how much how much of a difference would clay make for this team defensively because he is one of the best defensive players in the NBA massive difference a master weird it sounds like what you're saying Steve Kerr finally has to coach let me out forbid let's get a get exposed this year isn't it before we get to that let me just point out that much you look like a create a player Stu gods here it seems car battery struggle in every season and summer they're hot winter they're called advance auto parts we'll test you affordable prices and hence makes it extra affordable you pay just thirty bucks for a month supply and right now get your first on my doctor's visit totally free when you go to forums dot com slash last season Markey's Chris also a member of the other that's the guy that you thought was going to be salvaged way overnight show the one that there's a big controversy that Josh Hartson he wasn't in shape and then he got caught feelings no I don't remember that at all those jarred my memory seen this person eight police in lathrop California say suspected shoplifter dragging entire six pack of beer inside a target dressing room officers say that the woman took her car battery for free in any season and install new one if you need it this October say fifteen dollars by mail in rebate when you purchase a gold series battery or save ten dollars terms prescriptions appropriate subscription required see what type full details important safety information hey guys canoes the outrageously expensive little blue pill is now generic which means you can get the prescription medication to treat e slash espn five for your free online visit F. 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ESPN five that's right free zero co pay no expensive appointments no awkward face to face conversations to get your prescription hymns connects you the doctors online who can oh you and if appropriate prescribe your ed medication and a pharmacy since it right to your door hems makes it affordable private incredibly easy nobody likes dealing with D. now thanks different because one of those names that might just rattled off isn't playing anymore right who is that guy the guy that doesn't play if clay is healthy is at Robinson twitter is this Steve Kerr's first years had coach they just throw up a stat on Believe that this was the fourth wire to wire homeless or a coverage begins at three PM Eastern on ESPN radio and the ESPN APP belly put it on the poll at Lebatardshow hats on ESPN radio tune in for College Football Action Tomorrow as Lsu host Auburn presented by Dr Pepper Yeah so the Angelo gloating after a game you got this right but this on the poll as well let's art show okay you can ask our television producer Bruce Question as well in my said that set of Mike so Bruises on the Board Mike is off the Board Roy Tony you better than that but they can't stop a billion dudes drive into the hole and then threes like that's that's the reality right okay you just name three guys Brian Chris Bell on board me I mean onboard Bruce got it Mike Mike no Bruce doesn't work Friday's Bruce's out mail in rebate with the Platinum series swing by today and they'll help you power through the seasons advance auto parts think ahead advance physician consultation are only available at the physician six four five six four eight three seven this is who is who is on the board sort try saying that me a mean that Chris Roy and a six pack of Stella or towing stugatz man Stella's Roy what did I say stellan nicely or anyone in the shipping container seven eight six four five six four eight three seven the real reason I'm doing this is because yes I want you to ask a means basketball questions but I have a feeling you're gonna ask me in the Shipping and Oh Yeah Okay Roy on the board always GonNa ask me questions you never know Roy I mean you're on the board I guess I gotTa Be Tony on the board even though you're not by a microphone is on board. Hey Chris Billy Tony Mike you see Luzio Bruce Maybe Chino Danny what about your word draymond green drawn a place dromedary emotional I'm very emotional after the game Kevin Durant who enjoyed that the most Kevin Durant last in maybe HQ's Danny Danny and Chino on the board both or just one I think Mike just not on the Board Lucille the makeup artists Roy Billy Chris Tony and Mike we're all onboard okay we go out to Robert who has a question for Roy Okay I got wanting Roy Hey Roy two part question should we bring back very melrose once a month or hockey interviews number two WHO's GonNa Win Burma's off the board off the grid we can conference him in a really is there anyone else Chino sure doug got so okay Chino Still Board Danny Still Onboard Mike always upward always got also you got me Stella Glass that's what I said what did I say before he read that if he gets the name is Stella Artois most people just say Stella there's so much better than northeast Pacific that's so boring metro that's a that's a division I could get behind really yeah okay so division it's looking like the penguins might win the Metro and Yes to rose can appoint out I love hockey division names okay there we go Lucille the makeup artist is on the board that's it why don't we just get to whatever we're getting recounting her your recap what's the number the number seventy eh belly Tony Lucia Mike off the Board Bob Bruce at Bruce perhaps on the phone gene out of the Board Change Your Life it made me look exports in a different way really yeah have you watched a hockey game since yes did such a liar on ask you which one allison's off to Allison's off the board Mikey see is saying I'm on board he has just stepped me he is he is on the board in Bristol eight or more questions I'm not taking questions okay no questions for you know okay so mike is off the board billy's on the Board Billy on the board sure okay back Rachelle aboard Mike you see is on board okay so now you have Mikey say he's GonNa get all the questions right Mikey sees br I think he's GonNa get all the questions so me you roy new gear my how do you feel about that no don't why not just here's the thing Oh God let's go out to let's see your hold on all this is a question for billion let's go to Jake Jake you're on ESPN radio question for bill a salad dressing I wanNA talion I want ranch but took the dollar off ripped it off the Italian and I used it for the ranch my wife says that St really good question are you on the call this weekend bill or what's happening ESPN plus this week I think that was a one done maybe next year maybe I'll be back but that was like become united I am also game changed my life but Utah which one and one in L. 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A couple of years change your loud they do it right they do it right but how did hi Jack to actually clean up the mess in DC but do you think they could cleaning up within the next two three years two years no it's GonNa take longer than that only one off the boards still off the balloon that is fair that's fine it is you're right to not take phone calls seven eight six four five six four eight three seven you could also ask Bruce a question really now because they'll have cost certainty teams won't be worried that when you trey Bradley beal he might leave after a year let's go to Paul Paul go ahead you're on ESPN radio but I think they're kind of headed in the right direction I think the Bradley beal extension isn't so that Bradley beal be a wizard for life just makes it a little easier to trade him a year from now but this week our Middle Tennessee state but that was one thing I mean I have F- I you obviously beating Marshall and let's see Western Kentucky was I have a question for you and the shipping container and really for the poll that the supermarket I was at the supermarket and there was a dollar off coupon on Italians those on board guys like a Billy Marshall F o you who you got and he thinks he conference USA champion is this year wow if you're saying let's do your table everyone yeah just don't do it should be done I'd say don't is that is that the the roles you lived right now on the board of Change License Laborde does that mean that this is out so bruce's off the board now be a foam okay Lucille still on Orange USA all right all right Western Kentucky there it is let's go to Jason He has a question I mean it means on board Jason Go ahead you're on ESPN radio AME Our makeup artist is on board did you go ahead yeah it was calling to see who is the most diva getting ready all right Lucille I love when a plan comes together billy why are you shaking your head that was fun good I have fun for a minute please stop talking in a month from the honeymoon before now he's eating there's a buffet ousted though to be fair there's never buffet when I walk into work here today there was a buffet yeah if I say you don't do it why live a quarter of a mile at a time and then my second album let's go to TJ TJ has a question for Lucy gays asking in terms of the people that you put makeup on who is the biggest diva of all the people that have been through this These studios Lucia. Who Do you got the most diva Yeah Robinson got monster minutes okay perhaps Jordan pool join if you say so what do you think I think I had he play I really do a good job Outta here we are soulmates by Chris how do you feel about that you got to do it Mike I'm a he's off the board Bruce via phone got it okay we'll try to connects you through patches bruce all right I got you with this time to play for another stool sows taking 'cause the tires ooh wizards fan and you see everything that's going on in the DC area as far as the Nass in the mistakes and I wanNA know I know it's going to be a big big big big big big they asked me for Stella Artois punched in the face get our twat these libertas show with this too okay well the most are you Dan if the physician determines the prescription is appropriate see website for details information one of the scariest things that can happen to a guy is that first morning you wake up you look in the mirror and you start to realize you're going thin up top two weeks it feels like a mother you were there prescription products required online physician consultation only one stop shop or hair loss skin care sexual wellness for men prescription solutions backed by science written by a doctor delivered to your door thanks to science baldness can be and now your sports update the Astros have fired assistant general manager Brandon Todman it some senator right after he was attacked by a deer he believed he had shot dead three neuro theme dear introduced plus premium gasoline now four levels of defense against gunk where corrosion and friction guests on our show up here by the Shell Pennzoil performance line in daily podcast takes you deeper into the stories of the moment from minor to major uncovered two covered exclusive access investigative leadership insider perspective Zimbabwe Cisco by Robert Because he strikes me as someone who's not a nickname guy like I'm surprised he's not Robert Middle initial cost US whenever he does reports can you imagine not long clevelander so these are the things opposed to do I asked him a couple of days ago if a man they were struggling with me walking in is part of the odds Araj into the octagon and mafia dial into the octagon Saturday night at Madison Square Garden? 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F. on the planet but this is I think conspiracy theory than eat meat this has been part of his legacy who he is and he doesn't feel comfortable with the fact that there is something out there that may suggest that he cheated because he doesn't believe that he cheated tainted supplements a very much a part of the athletic community and so there's a chance that he may just remove himself from this until he figures out what's going on as well the you've seen everyone involved is very hopeful all draws to walk and go to competitors such that they are okay and he has is a big draw that's what I was at this is the most highly anticipated. UFC card a me made a face when area called them Nathan Ds yes I thought that was a nice touch he also made a face when he mentioned only taking St a possible positive for another drug test but my the UFC is saying the fight is still on and Nathan Diaz is saying to fight his off he has a contract though that fights on bulls because typically when something like this happens it's either you Sada or the athletic commission the UFC that makes the announcement but here's Nathan is getting ahead of it and the screen cap of a notepad and it was a bit of an adventure however what it sort of boils down to is sort of saying I'm out on this because there was a false positive on a test it's not that I did that whole foods will do they would never sell you anything it's just that the different of governing bodies have lists of items that regular people can take that aren't really it really would I think about it all the people who love you watch people can't stand you will also watch amazing yes but like why do you have a murdering me that's a little his wall Mazda I'll fight somebody if this doesn't let me tell you something if on the off chance that this doesn't happen with the as I can doesn't get paid for it but I mean he could essentially decide to retire and you can't really do anything okay you ask him if he does that was a punitive measure is in Waco put them in easily this year and it'll be really interesting to see the drawing power poor hey Mazda all now that he's sort of broken through right and become more of a mainstream sport star a question the world know that something is up as of right this moment the UFC two forty four main event between eighth and Muslims is not off it is not cancelled and as is just a way to drum up more interest for this headed into it and right now the fight is salon but here's ESPN's aerial Halawani further explaining the situation is rather fascinating on many bad for you but they've just decided that you can't take a because of several reasons one of them which you know in the case of younger eight in the NBA he took a diuretic to mask because he might have he has language in his contract that gives them additional money for how many buys their armed people may be out on the pay per view would have bought it if Nathan says why am I calling him Nathan he is he's always been to me if Nathan deal is is in the main event that obviously means more pay per view buys all right it's all part of a way next week regardless thing and have the contract language that you have some money tied into buys guaranty trust me okay you're guarantee and if there was a bonus for every ten seconds I survive in the octagon hey you're fighting and he says no I'm not okay so I'm kind of with you he's trying to interest in the but then what would happen with him in terms of his standing inside the UFC within the white uh hold on a second what do you think I would get in terms of a flat fee just to do the fight show up at stand there and let the husband I'll kill me well you'll sell the fight because I think you'll do the smart the fight down the road because he sells fights yeah okay I didn't know that I wasn't aware that he's over it he's the whites allowed fighters bell rings you reach out like you're going let's let's get a little prefight in bump and then just keep like keeping that going for six I think yeah I like that like Mas Vidal yes I love that order I if you were offered a hundred grand to just get one hit on him but you have to suffer the consequences of that hit would you hit him when you go to shake hands no says the replacement for Nathan is horry Mazda I'll just murders you in the middle of that would sell tickets there's listen the longer you keep me up the more money we get fifty fifty split of that's so when people go into the fight tapa gloves and the UFC tap hands three more than one hundred grant two hundred grand little higher seven hundred and fifty grand that's a lot higher thinking I mean listen how long do you think I could survive in the octagon like if there's a tense like every ten seconds I get let's just say a fifty grand bonus and others trying to run around if you don't know me it's probably because I'm not famous but I did start a men's grooming company called Harry's the idea for Harry's came out of a frustrating experience I had buying razor blades most brands were him fight longer than five seconds because he he ran abhor hey and that's why he got the right right so you guys are going to run in the opposite direction every ten seconds he's really have what do you think I would get in terms of this is crazy hypothetical I just came out Austin Bob Q. 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Rod Stewarts BLONDES HAVE MORE FUN 40 years later with Carmine Appice
"Ladies and gentlemen, records retired plate spinners and millennials who want to impress their parents with their record collections. Welcome to the rhino cast podcast. Brought to you by rhino records. Get ready for new releases detracts and conversations with your favorite artists and bands and balloons for the kiddies. And now your hosts with the most which may have and Dennis the menace this week on the rhino podcast. We celebrate the fortieth anniversary of rod Stewart's blondes have more fun and talk with master drummer Carmine a piece about his career his time playing with rod and his recollections on recording and touring this classic album. Hey, rich Dennis. Well, I happen to know that today's podcast involves anniversary of an when double platinum in the US as correct? And actually that moment platinum a month and a half after its release in nineteen seventy eight. Wow. I also know that there was some amazing players on this record. And that you talked to one of them that is most definitely rock and roll royalty. Absolutely. I had a great conversation with Carmine apiece. One of the best and hardest hitting rock drummers. It's out there. He's played with a who's who of rock and roll royalty. And he was the drummer and songwriter on blondes have more fun. The Rod Stewart record that really shot rod into the stratosphere career-wise Brooklyn boy vanilla fudge cactus. Beck Bogarde apiece. Yep. Incredible. And he played by the way on four of rods albums as a matter. In fact, that's correct. He was on foot loose and fancy free blondes have more fun foolish behavior. And tonight, I'm yours and some other trivia only two solo number one hits for Rod Stewart Maggie may. And and do you think I'm sexy? That's right. And that's right. And you could not have more disparite pair of number ones. You got your Aachen role. And rod went disco blondes have more fun went to number one on the US album charts and went on to so more than fourteen million copies worldwide. Carmona piece. Welcome to the rhino podcast. Well, thank you, very much, deployed him fun album is one of my favorite albums. Well, it's fortieth anniversary. It was huge for rod. It led to the biggest tour that he'd ever had up to that point. And you're a major part of it. But you're start was with vanilla fudge. Why don't you tell us how you got hooked up with them and not going in the music, basically, my vanilla fudge trip. Started nineteen sixty six I was asked to join a group called the pigeons. They said we're going to try to make it with these big production numbers that are going on in Long Island that vagrants will doing. So that was the thing in Long Island to do arrangements. You know, so production numbers recall them as we used to be called the pigeons and honored again, when he was signing us said I hate that name we need a new name was the president chairman of the board of Atlantic and atco and all that stuff. And. Yeah. So somebody came. Up with the idea that we will like a white soul. So vanilla fudge soda fit that white soul thing. So then we became vanilla fudge. And we started doing range and because we had four vocalists and we had really four really good musicians. So that separated us a little bit from everybody else. And especially Mark Stein. Who is an amazing vocalist? You know, the only other band that was like that was going around the had a vocal of that two bands developments had Leslie west as wanted vocalist, and you had Billy Joel and house bills. But he didn't make it for another seven or eight years after that, you know, but he was as Billy Joel is a great voice in great writer and all that. So we happened to make it and the song keep me hanging on right? Was the one that broke us? We did a demo which shot him on. And he presented to almond present it on the radio to Murray K, and they played it and it contests and we kept winning. Contests and Amish sintus on that demo. Yeah. That was a huge hit for you guys to times, you know, an amazing thing about the fudges when the album came out the album went from them two hundred and number thirty three in the second week the single hanging on only went up to maybe number sixty sixty five at that time. But the album went all the way to number four that was an amazing thing back then because usually in order to get a big album like that you need to smash single everybody else always had smash singles, we didn't then smashed single came later year later, and they re released hanging on September sixty eight which was a year and two months later. And then it went to number four. And then at that time we had two other albums on the charts and the first album was still number seventy. But it brought the first album backup to top fifteen. So we have to albums in top twenty and one of them one other almond a top fifty and a top four single crushing it. Yeah. We were killing. So you were out touring people wanted to open for you. And of course, one of the interesting bands that opened for you in nineteen sixty nine was none other than Led Zeppelin actually was nineteen sixty eight December twenty six it was intended Colorado spirit vanilla fudge. It was like a. Five to seven thousand seat arena there. It was already sold out. And the agent was the same Asia we had and zeppelin had the same lawyer that we had and we knew pita grand manager. And so between the manages the lawyer and the agent day book zeppelin on already sold out show that the promoted him wanna pay fifteen hundred dollars for them because it was all ready sold out to need them. So we made a deal that vanilla fudge would pay half the fifteen hundred dollars and the Pomona would pay half. And that's how zeppelin got on I eight in America, very for showing America. Wow. That was very generous you guys. Yeah. I know I said boy how about some interesting pass back. Was it true that you got John Bonham his endorsement with Ludwig drums. I did called him up and tell them that John bottom was a great drummer, and there were new band, and I thought they were going to be big. And he wanted to set just like mine which had the two big maple twenty six bass, drums and a big floor. Tom mental too. Big Tom's on the side symbols. And hi hat and gone. He saw my kidding. Just flipped out and said man, can you help me get set like that Sisa? Yeah. When I call them said, you know, these guys are going to be big second understatement of five decades, you know? Yeah. No kidding. No kidding. What ran through your mind? The very first time you saw them play. Well, you know, we we blew a lot of bands off stage in those days. We were saying who's gonna blow us off. It was then. Once we saw them, we sit home my God. These guys are really incredible. So, you know, I'm particularly to date in blow us off on that too. But the next tour their album was out, and it was Allen was Golda ready, and they already caught up to us as far as how big we were. They were that bigger ready and six months now. So it was the second two or more of a co headlining tour was a co headlining tour. Did you ever get a chance to jam with John at all a double jumper thing? Just on sage Sanchez, Tom or anything and not full drums like like when they went on one time. We went on me. And can we went on and played how many more times in place of John Paul Jones and Bonzo, you know? Oh, really? Yeah. The middle Robert and Jimmy did speak. You know, Bo in vocal thing. And then the germs come in you, go give it David Boon that do you know right into the song again? Yeah. You know, it was sort of like, Robert elbow. Jimmy. Turn around looking. There was me Tim plan then we would play shotgun. And they would come on and play with us. John would pick up a pair of sticks and bang on the floor. Tom, Tom, symbols and stuff next to me. You know, I mean, you guys must have had a blast those would have fun days because it wasn't really a business shit. You know, right. You just there for the love of the music. Really? We were just having a great time. You know, the whole scene was different is all the groupies. Nobody was really, you know. Everybody was into partying after gigs. Now like today, you know, we're all too old for that. What led you to leave the no fudge? Well, you know, having internal problems with the Qatar player too, many drugs at one point and wanted to case we did nineteen sixty-nine before we started to let's upland to over. This was a gig with Jeff Beck group. Ten years after Jeff Beck group vanilla fudge, and we were the headliners but zeppelin went up in jammed that night, and it would just tore the house down. You know, we had a follow that. And then that night banjo told me that Jeff Beck wanted to play with me, and Tim. So he's going to be me. Rod, Jeff, and Tim originally, we're gonna call a cactus, and then Rajin wanna work with Jeff because of financial problems. And then it was me, Jeff, and Tim, and we were going to get find another singer. Then Jeff had a car wreck, you know, one of his hot rods and put him eighteen months behind in a hospital and recouping recovering. So we found. Hugh McCarty who was in Mitchell in Detroit wheels, and buddy miles. It was failing on guitar player. He was American and rusty day who is a singer for Amboise dukes. So was like a super group. It was on a on a small level without Jeff Beck and Rod Stewart so cactus did okay. And then we got another call from Jeff Beck's campaign that just wants to play with us, and he was getting ready for a summer tour, and he wanted me and Tim to join him on the summer tour. And it was Jeff Beck group featuring meet at me, Tim and Jeff so after that bogert apiece. How did you get the call to go? Join rod, well, basically, there was another band in between that took me out to the west coast to live which was a group called KGB KGB had Mike Bloomfield, Barry Goldberg, I brought regret from blind faith with me regrets a singer name Ray Kennedy, and it was like a soup. And that you know, we recorded and Mike Bloomfield, a real strange one. He wouldn't come to L A record. He said he couldn't sleep in LA crazy. Sleeping LA? So we did the tracks a session guy. And then we all had to go up to San Francisco where he lived and at the record plant up there and get Mike, you know, in the record plant and finish album came out on MCA records and got number one airplay rock airplay around the country. And we started doing interviews and Mike did an interview Robert Hilburn from the LA times might Bloomfield's telling everybody, you know, via the LA times that he would never play with me and Rick with Ray Kennedy that it's not a his Cup of tea kinda musicians. And and it was done by big management. That's the only reason why he was there. And we went crazy now record company went crazy. Anyway, we ended up throwing them out. You know? So all we threw him out we regrets tube. Because once he got some money was back on Aaron, you know, then we never got to play live digit. We played one show live now with that we had this guy, Greg Sutton and Benny shelter place. Those two guys and we went out on a tour which yo cocker and those are today's in Joe Cocker's throwing up on the side of the stage in into rubbish bin. I ran into a friend of mine Santa Genero that lived in California at the time. And I said, hey, how you doing because I just came back from an audition, we wrought to it cools. Kennedy says no didn't get it. He said, you should call them. I said okay now when we were cactus before we broke up with the original bam. We did thirty or forty shows with the faces. So we knew rod, you know. I knew Ruston Jeff Beck group. When Ron Jeff Beck group. Then we met the other guys we hung out. We tore up hotels together. And we you know, we already into that whole phase of our career of destroying each as rental car and all that stuff. You know? So I call puck Lynn who is the the good the ringleader of all that stuff. Cepeda carmine. You know, you looking for drumming left to play rod. So he said let me call Ron tell him. So he calls Ryan calls me back says, well look to ban this here or the same Germans wanted. You come down and see if you liked the band. I saw that's a switch. I'm gonna see if I like the van, okay? I took my good car up to see rod beside figured. I knew raw was a cog. I so I went to I took my pant terra with me. And then when I drove into riots house, Italy, Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and Mercedes and Porsches and everything and he had a six cog Araj. So they cleared for the cause out in the cause was sitting up in the circle drive, and I put the pan tear up Dan that went into garage, and they had the band gear set up and go beyond the garage like. Like, a pool and pool house. That's where the guys were role in their bathing suits, hanging out by the pool and join rods house, you know, rod was in London. So this is the kind of ban. I wanna be in, you know. Yeah. No kidding. Yeah. So so we played together. And it was it was great. That's Billy peak playing guitar Gary grain, she was a young guy that like she'll wall stuff. She was a, you know, an all around kind of really good Qatar player. Billy peak was just Chuck Berry expert, Phil Chen guy, John Jarvis on keyboard and me, and we play it. And it was great. We had a great time. So rod wasn't there that Todd wasn't there so pizza? What do you think? I said a like it. I would love to do this is let me call Raj. Raj says he's coming back in a couple of days. I should come back. So I came back and we played now with rod and then rod looked at me to size. It look if you want to do this, you know, a left to have you. I know you have fan. Out. There said you could do a drum solo keep you fans happy, and it was actually really fair deal considering rod was really big on his own. But on the tourist he gave the band like a percentage of the road, which was really nice of him. You know, it's very generous. Yeah. And what year was this was nineteen seventy six I think it was like August. And so what was the first thing? You guys did together. Did you start rehearsing back catalogue material? We we started rehearsing for a tour that was coming up. He had a European tour booked started in Trondheim Norway in a little feta, you know, but we rehearse for six weeks every day, you know, including weekends. We might have one day off. But I mean, you know, really rod really this was his baby coming out his own ban. We've called a Rod Stewart group. You know, we were we were like the band that he hand picked to come out. Out with you know, we rehearse some. We really tight, and we really got really good first gigs were good, and you know, got tighter and tighter. And then after that tour, I know we spent Christmas in London that year, but then we recorded the blondes fun album. You're the code rider on do you think? I'm sexy on blondes have more fun. I was about the songwriting process. Tell us about how you guys came up with that one. Well, basically rod was always looking at charts. You know and saying I want a song like that. You know, like if you listen to mighty Quing this court changes in there that we ripped and put it in your in my heart. You know? So he always did the interesting. Yeah. So so he he was like I wanna song like miss electoral stones. He told the whole band. You know, so we all went back to places, and I had a keyboard and how to Joe machine, and I I went and that came up with some changes, then I went to my buddy, Duane Hitchings house. And I put the song down in his eight track. Studio, we had a eight track tape studio, and we put it down, and we had a bridge, and we had a melody to a bridge and everything. So when I presented it to rot, it sounded pretty good. So I gave it to rod you loved it. And I said, well, why can't believe he's actually Levin my idea, and of all the ideas, he pick my idea, you know, and then then we developed it as a ban, and we had a few different arrangements of we had a really rock version of it that we liked pretend. I don't know Tom rod wanted to tone it down a little bit. It was maybe two rocky. So and then we went into studio we had few different arrangements. And finally when we hit upon the arrangement we had me three Qataris or actually mean to Qatar Qataris Creagh in Grainger, Phil Chen, David foster was on Kibo about that. And we before he was a producer. And I think John Jarvis might have been playing some some sort of keyboard on it as well. You know, and we had this guy. Uppercut shenice, which I can't remember the name of them, you know, Latin guy, and he was great. He played hung as Paulino DeCosta. Yes. I think it was pulling out. So we put the track down a bunch of times with a click track. It was only me in Paulino have to click track. Everyone else didn't. And then finally, we got it down. Then it sounded big it sound like a big rock track. Next thing we know Tom Dowd came in put up another twenty four track. Now, we got to twenty four tracks. And he put an orchestra on it before, you know, it the second twenty track was filled up. Right. When when you record whatever you put something in something, you know, takes space of something else. So we filled up one twenty four to twenty four tracks forty eight tracks. So naturally, the basic track that we have that was humongous is going to shrink inside. You know? I gotta make room sonically for everything else. Yeah. It shrunk in size and ended up the way it came out. Andy Johns was the engineer and he mixed it. I had gotten. End the John's into it. Because Andy work with me with Jeff back, you know, BB, and I thought it was amazing. We've got great drums sounds together. Yeah. So he mixed it when we heard it. We said, oh, man, it what happened to the big rock sound and Thomson. Well, we had to make room for everything else. But it sound great. And you know, who's going to argue it went to number one in every free world country. What about lyrics on that one? Did you collaborate with Ron rod to delirious, right? Always was magic with lyrics. If you listened to all his songs, they'll always everyday sayings. You know, every tells the story you're in my heart. Tonight's tonight. You know, hot legs. Do you think? I'm sexy all of his big songs passion. You know? We're all like everyday words that you would say they're not like something brand new, right, right? You know, what I think that makes it relatable? And it makes it easy for people. Exactly like, and that's what was great about rod and all his songs to his whole career. It was awesome. When it was finished heard him do vocals while we knew it was going to be a head is everything we did was a hit back. Then you know that was at the record before. I mean, Philly's and fancy free was was the number two record in the US and hot legs was a top ten single. You're my hobby was top ten single. You know? So we we knew we were going to have another big record. But the thing I'm sexy and blondes more fun took it to the next level. Well, check this out the album went platinum by the end of nineteen seventy eight it only been out a month and a half. And it does all ready platinum. Exactly. So you mentioned that Tom Dowd produced the record, he's a famous producer. He's produced so much amazing music. What was it like working with him? What was his production style? Well, he was very laid back. It was almost like he didn't produce. Listen to rod. But what he did do was when rod had an idea. Right. Yeah. If he had an idea like for something Tom would take the idea, and and tell the ban usually would rod was talking about like rod were say, well, I want to key to go up. So Thomas say, well, I want to go from you know, we're Angie shops. So let's take it up to a so so Tom would explain it musical terms. So he was good at interpreting. What rod was hearing. I think that was his really a fine point about him as well, as you know, seen a vision of the thing, I'm sexy which strings I don't think rod saw that vision. You know, I think that was Tom's vision because he wanted to miss you by the Rolling Stones result guitars, and you know, rods version of the Dan did it did it. It was due. Literally, you know. Yeah. Know he took this took like the road roadmap of that song and made it our own made it huge hit. Unbelievable. I'm gonna biggest city and a hat, and I couldn't believe it. I said I wrote the biggest rod ever have when we were in Australia and seventy nine it just hit number one in America and watch it. Oh, man the song. We wrote just hit number one. I said, wow, that's unbeliev. I can't believe it. He says so we have to buy dinner everybody tonight. And when we both in the band, it was like six or eight hundred dollars, but he saying we're going to buy dinner for everybody on the tour. So is a fifteen hundred dollar dinner. You know, and I you know, I never got a dime yet from the song. You know? I am right split in the fifteen hundred dollars dinner would rod. Yeah. But I bet it paid dividends. God it was unbelievable. Well, the second single that you guys release off the record was ain't love a bitch, which came out in January of seventy nine watch. You tell us about that one. It's another saying. Right. Lyrics is another thing. Ain't love a bitch. You know, how many times you say that you know, that one was just it wasn't recorded as a single. It was recorded as just another song on the record. You know, most of the songs were done like that. You know, there were certain songs that we recorded a single sexy was quotas single. You're my heart. Hot legs passion. But that song was it really recorded as a single. It was just a statement. You know, Araj statement lyrically, and it was supposed to be along the lines of like baggy may kind of story, you know? Still. Bench. I love a bitch went up to top twenty. It was a number eleven in the UK number twenty two in the US thought. Yeah. I didn't think it made it to top ten in England. Everything did was top fifteen. He could've fought it on a record. And we went top fifteen. But thinking about it, you know, you would think that title track would have been second single. Yeah. But it was the third single came in April cannot Naples seventy nine. We did the actual song long fun a video for it. You know, we wanted to try some different. So I had only symbols around the drums. I have like maybe four or five symbol stands holding symbols side said well, why don't we get these all these blondes around the drum set holding my symbol stands in. You know, two piece outfits and just real sexiest looking surrounding me high heels, you know, all that stuff. And and we played the song. And it was it was I had to take it easy on hidden symbols though, because you know, symbols fairly heavy. And then we had we had to also tape up the bottom of symbols. You couldn't really hear them symbols will drown out the system that's playing the track. And then you couldn't hear that too. You know, but that was really really cool. So as you guys started to go out and tour and the record kept selling and getting bigger and bigger did you have to move to larger venues, we were you saw better and bigger all years, totally when we went to a stray willia- and Japan, the far east to Arista, call as New Zealand, Australia, New Zealand, we played a stadium must have been forty thousand people time before that we played like small Vitas that small theaters maybe three thousand theaters, you know, five thousand seat theaters when we went to a stray willia- this time we played six nights in eight thousand seat place, plus a thirty five thousand seat stadium. And it was all sold out two Tokyo we played five nights at the Bhuto Khan sold out all in advance. You know, when we did the American twenty Merican was sold out in advance. And we did six nights at the form in LA five nights at the garden. Four nights at Cobo hall, four nights at the cow palace. Two nights at the Coliseum Seattle. You know, it was it was crazy. I think we did Nassau Coliseum to after the five nights to God, we might have done to nessa calcium. So I tried to talk right into doing a seven night at the form because Led Zeppelin hell record at the form of seven nights. You know, he wouldn't do it all the time. Yeah. So let's keep it. Let's keep it at six with good. We sold out six. That's good. I said, okay. Biggish wanna shows I've ever done in my life. As funny because I was just empty out. My press boxes, I'm moving my house in LA. And I found all the itinerary and schedules for the rod tours, which I still kept. I read a lot of press about the tour, and you know, about, you know, my drum solo in the tour and about the ban being wanted to best rock bands on the planet. You know? And there's good musicians, you know, in rod was the greatest, man. It was nobody like Rod Stewart in those days. It was the best that the greatest voice most unique voice. And he was all over the stage. He was just tremendous was always been like that. And it was funny. Because when I I told rod when we were going to Japan, I said, you know, I'm pretty big in Japan's I've been into music life polls, which is like a a big poll in Japan if drums in the top five for the last twenty years, so we played Fukuoka. We have to my solo rod come out and go come on drums. They were cheering so loud. He couldn't even hear himself in the monitor. So have to show he said, you know, doing Tokyo press conference, I want you to sit next to me. Because obviously, you're right. You're you do have a big following here. I said I told you I wasn't lying. You know? So then the next night we had the same reaction. Then the next day. We went to Tokyo did a press conference. I sat next to rod and sure enough the only ones that got questions in a whole ban was me rod. It was great. It was a good like he was like the captain. I was like the co captain. It was great. Let's talk a little bit about what you've got going on this year two thousand nineteen. Well, actually right now, I'm getting a release ready for January release for my complete ketosis wreckage with four brand new tracks never were released in America. I got some of the great guitar players of all time on it. In like, Brian May Neil, Sean inveigh mouse team Steve moss, pull Gilbert, Richie sambora. So you couldn't get anybody. Who knew how to play I got people couldn't play. Now. They will. They're awesome. Everybody's play. Great solos primate. Did a wa wa solo which he never does. You know? That's great. Yeah. Yeah. I got back. Wild mc. Mas Elliot eastern from the cause. Wow. Got Bob days on bass, Tony Franklin's on all the bass tracks mostly Kelly keeling playing rhythm on singing. I got Doug Pinnock doing vocal got a winner doing vocal crazy combination. Duck Pinnock and an invasion Elstein his Dougie. Angry wanted to do a track with Doug, then I got mic. Mas wanted to be on track Woodhead co-winner as crazy, you know, crazy combination and collaborations, and what's the title of that one? It's called combine a piece Qatar Zeus in what about live shows for you this year live shows got vanilla fudge shows at got shows with my brother being booked, June is supposed to be some more rascals shows too. It's like some fall, we'll Carmine. Thank you so much for taking time to tell us all these great stories and about your time playing with rod and the blondes have more fun album celebrating the fortieth anniversary this year. Yeah. And if people want him more about these kind of stories and the story to create it can get. And my book stick it my life of sex, drums, and rock and roll. You can get an Amazon they could ordered on my website, combine a piece dot com. Which I autograph in and we send it back. They could also get the ketosis record that as well. Cool. Well, thanks very much Cooman. Great to talk to you see on the road. Okay. Cheers. Well, rich. I sure did learn a lot about blondes have more fun. So now's great time to revisit this record. Of course. It's available on all of your favorite streaming platforms. Listen to Spotify, apple music, go out and listen to it where you like to listen to it and had a blast because it is a really fun record and last, but certainly not least don't forget to hit that subscribe button. So you don't miss the next rhino cast executive producers for rhino. John Hughes and Lauren Goldberg produced for rhino by pop cold enrich may hand promotions. All rights reserved.
Ep 4: Stress
"Hi, everyone and welcome back to episode four of the become your own best, friend podcast. My name is Kiara Johnson. And this is a podcast where I share advice and tips to help understanding yourself and others more effectively, this will help you improve your relationships Correa job satisfaction. And of course your own happiness. Certainly I just want to say a huge thank you to you for pressing play today. And for also the feedback that I've received so-far Mersa view of said it's like was sitting down having a Cup of coffee and chatting about life, which is exactly the result. I wanted from this podcast. I'm sorry, passionate about helping people become a better version of themselves, and really believe that if you step outside your comfort zone, then that is where the magic happens. But more. Most people are afraid to do that or during nowhere to stop. So my hope is you listening through this podcast is taking the action steps that I suggest to help you get out of your comfort zone. It's so easy to sit back and read a book goal. Listen to a podcast, but I wanna really push you by getting you to think about things differently and then of course, applying them to your own life. In today's episodes. I wanna talk about the impact of stress, and what is having on your life. I see everywhere I will Kim's pay was is, and I can see the stress behind them the main way, I used to say in people with when I was working with clients, as a personal trainer that would say to me CARA, I'm eating healthy. I'm exercising. Why can I lose weight? What's wrong with me? And usually it was those losses couple of killers, you know, those stubborn kilos that just don't leave particularly around the midsection, and I certainly saw that in many, many clients that would come to me and instead of getting them to exercise hot. All looking even looking at their diet. I would firstly osc them. Tell me about you day to day life. What's your job like what you family? You like what's your relationships like, and that sort of look at me, a bit strange as if to say, well, a came for exercise and diet, invoice, why you wondering what's going on in my in my life outside of he'll, but what we got down to in, in some of the clients is that I actually stopped them from exercising intensely and also got them to eight more. But what we really focused on more. And this is why I'm I'm doing what I'm doing today. Rather than training people is because the results that I found with so astronomical. In terms of what people could achieve when we focused on their stress management, so often. Yeah, it was the stress that they were putting on themselves. The emotional pressure. Does that sound familiar to anyone out there? So when you stress the body, you end up secreting one or two of the homelands, namely, cortisol and adrenaline, so cortisol prevents your body from utilizing fat as defense mechanism to keep stored an g intuition, and for protection of the organs. Adrenaline on the other hand stimulates every cell in your body to fire at an increased. Right. So as cells are the main active will the more active the amount of waste that is produced increases, and that has an accumulation an accumulation toxic effect on the body. We can't deny that stresses every way missing train being stuck in traffic dealing with an angry customer making a mistake, etc. It's a constant influx of stress and this is the accumulation that I was talking about before Becca ancestry days. What do you think the stress was adorned think it was the fact that they going into a stressful mating or that someone had annoyed them? I'm pretty sure that stress Mata bane, the fact that they were potentially getting eaten by a wild animal. Now that's a stressful situation. So I'll flight or fight response. I'm show. Mercy of you have heard that before. So that would kick in, and of course, give us the adrenaline that we needed to be able to run away from these wild animals. Of course, nowadays winnow getting chased by a wild animal stress some of the things that I named before like having a bad day or having a conversation with someone that leaves you be angry frustrated, however out body can't differentiate between that stress. It conto friendship between whether we're getting chased by a wild animal, or whether we're just having a bad day. So it will release the same hormones or the same chemicals in our bony. So therefore that adrenaline is released now when not usually going off and burning that at. Adrenaline. So it just actually sits in L body, and that's where we get that toxic accumulation that I was referring to before is when the cells are really active and everything's on fire, and it's all working, but it's an overload because we're not in that where Alaw is in danger. So the actual stress that our body was meant for is if we were in danger, a body would release all these chemicals so that we could escape, but now with so having those chemicals released, but it's not a life or death situation. So basically we're just constantly overloading all-body. And this is why we struggle to potentially lose white for some people. In other people. It shows up in different ways. But for a lot of my clients, this is the, the major struggle that they had, and I've certainly had an experience with stress. Yes, as I'm sure most of you have for me. It was actually working in the health and fitness industry, believe it or not that alarm getting set for four fifteen a m certainly did not agree with my body. It was K for a while. And then over the years, it just started to really get on top of me. At not mode. Have so much trouble falling asleep, because I worried that if I got into a deep sleep, I would sleep two mile long, and then my clients would be waiting for me at five thirty in the morning, or I'd stress that, you know, I'd be in a car accident on the way to work, and everyone would think I was light. But in fact, something had actually happened. And also when I used to wake up in the morning, my heart rate would be really high, and I would be having these sort of racing thoughts as well as if something was going to happen to me. So I would be say in the elevator and not be stressing that the elevator would get stock, and then I'd be like to work or that the cog Araj that I've been would get stock, and I wouldn't be able to get out, and they'll always to stays Wade things going on there. I never really had an issue with before, but it. Certainly got worse over time. And so, yeah, when I'd wake up I'd have these like that really high heart rate in the sweaty palms, and then small things started to affect me things that I usually wouldn't get worried about with starting to get me worried. And just, I guess, family and friends sodded to notice mainly my partner because we lived yellow, sir, he knows what I'm like on a general basis. And so I thought, yeah, this definitely doesn't sound like me. I'm a national what's going on? But I knew that the J paid didn't have the answer. Or if they did, it would probably be in the form of sleeping pills, or endings Audie medication or something like that, anyway, that just wasn't for me. I'm not really into taking medication for things like that. So I went and saw a netra path, which was really, really great. We focused we talked about not only my diet, but just my life in general, which is also how I used to help out other people. And when we told him particular about my schedule, she certainly made the point that L it's just not natural body clock to be waking up that ille-. So my body was in that sort of file flight responses, soon as I was waking up as I was going into that, that stress response is soon as I was waking, which, of course, was having many, many negative effects on myself and just my life. And of course in my relationships as well. I I wasn't the same. And so, yeah, this went on for quite a few months before I went to say and notch path 'cause I didn't really know what was wrong, and then yeah, I wouldn't so her, and we did some tests, and everything. And lo and behold, my cortisol levels which was the home iron. I said before that gets released when you ostracize was actually seven times. Ova. What the recommended levels are. And I remember her looking at me and saying you need to change something in os. Oh, the sound serious. And it was a matter of in that situation, if I didn't change something it was gonna lay to more of a chronic situation, for example, chronic, fatigue, or adrenal fatigue, which can be quite serious and widdly enough. A really good friend of mine had actually been diagnosed with adrenal fatigue. Only a few months before I was getting all these test results, and she's very, very similar to me. We like to burn the candle of both ends as my mom would say, and just always working and doing things and just generally being really busy. I guess, like moist of us out there, but it was coming at the detriment of specifically Al health and I know from my friend, she was forced on. Leave. She had to take a think it was two weeks off work, and then go back on a part time basis, and slowly work back up to full time again 'cause it was like a body just went into complete meltdown. And this is what the natural path was saying could certainly happen to me if I kept going the way that I was going with my levels being so hot. So I thought to myself well, I know someone close in my life that had to go through this. I've got the power to slow this. So I certainly wanted to do something. With my job. It was really challenging to change the hours. Moist people with personal training, one to exercise really early. And so it wasn't a matter of me being able to start later or if I wanted to work in the nights it meant that I would have no quality time with my partner so that certainly wasn't an option. So there was no flexibility with my work. And so I just thought you know what after ten years, I think it's time to make the big change. So that's where I changed my career. I guess, and my job, which meant that, I got to have what I call it a sleep in, in the morning. So for me sleepy into six AM was absolute bliss. I could not believe it, and it was just amazing how much time I had in the morning as well. You know, I didn't start work to nine o'clock. However, are still getting up at similar times, certainly not four fifteen because that's ridiculous to get up if you don't have to but just doing things like going for a walk. I'm doing my meditation doing a yoga class, you know, all of these things that I hadn't been able to do in the morning, and I couldn't believe how much of a difference, they actually made of course I was one that help people out with exercise before they went to work, and they fought incredible. You know, my clients wacko, I love coming to see you in the morning, you know, it really starts my day and I was like, oh, I wish I had that for myself. And now I created that for myself and I just know exactly the feeling. And so many people of notice the difference in may in that just things saying things like you know, you've got so much kala in your face. Like you just look righty and glowing. And the only thing that I've changed is getting more sleep. And of course, getting my cortisol levels back intact or back to normal levels. So I didn't even bother going back to get tested because I absolutely Nori they'll be back to normal. Nell, I feel incredible. When our wake up, I just food, so relaxed and not that those heart palpitations and those anxious thoughts as if you're something bad's, going to happen to me on the way to work. I never think that anymore and the heart racing and sweaty palms, etc. So I'm just trying to tell you the story to help you think about if stress is affecting you in a negative way and annoy for me. It was. And so I'm not telling you to quit your job. If that's the stress for me that was the, the right thing to do, and it certainly has turned my life around, and I'll never look back now. I can't even imagine now. Hell, I got through that it was almost like always was outside of my body ARCO is just zombie all the time. And it was not a great feeling at all. Whereas now I to do things for myself in the morning. Like I said, sometimes I'll just lay in bed and raid for a little bit, and then I'll get up and do some stretching and then get ready for work and have a shower and have a proper breakfast over small things that I, I guess, took for granted that I originally wasn't. Able to hell much those things actually do affect you. So I want you to think about how stress shows up in your life. And of course, you know, there's good stress and bad stress. Like we need a distress allies to help us do things like if I'd enough to be ready for work in time, for example. I'm what just start doing other sorts of things and just relaxing and taking too much time. So there's certainly is a good stress to get things done. Or if you're on a deadline for work, of course, your potentially under the pump and going to work a bit harder. The maybe if there was no deadline for that project, and you just had it could be whenever you might take your time and not be as worried about it. So certainly, sometimes them, there, is that good stress in the certainly in our bodies in the morning, we need actually a bit of quotas. Ole in our bodies to wake us. Up and to get us moving all the wise we would never get moving in the morning. What I'm referring to is when it affects you in a negative way and from a chronic point of view, so chronic being over long term, and I know for me, I felt the physiological effects of my body like feeling my heart. Right. Almost feel like it's going to be out of my chest or my palms being really sweaty and just being really peyot end. And having those anxious thoughts they were those physiological responses in my body. That was showing that simply my body was not dealing with the, the stress that it was Unda. So having a think about how stress shows up in your life. And what part of it, you can control for me. It was I could control changing my job and changing my hours. And I certainly did. And once I made that change that was right for me. Everything does turn. Turned around and my brain has thinks differently. Now, I'm so much clearer from I guess, having that extra slave in live. I'm so grateful, because I always struggled to go to bed early could never sleep. Even if I went to bed at eight thirty and would get a good night sleep. I just lay awake until about ten o'clock anyway. So for me, it was certainly that lack of sleep. And I don't have children. So I don't understand what that's like. But I certainly have many friends who do have children, who I can certainly say that, that lack of sleep absolutely affects them. And that's not something that you can change for the, the short term. At least so what I want you to think about is the stresses in your life that you can control. And what can you do about it, and it might not be as drastic as quitting your job? It might just be that the habits that you need to cry. Create which you're going to assist with your stress management, and notice how I said management there because it's not about getting rid of the stress will always going to have stresses in lives, and that's fun. That's the humans that's the way that was supposed to operate, but with certainly not supposed to operate under this chronic stress where a body is flooded with quotas all. And then it affects us in L physiology. So once we look at the things that we can control is looking at whether you eliminate that out of your life, or whether you just need to change it somehow so as said with a job, it could be changing hours, it doesn't have to be quitting your job. It could be potentially working from home, a couple of hours a week on no so many businesses as days really appreciate that work life balance. So it could be a mean if the job's not right for you than it might be quitting. Or it could be looking at ways to change your hours or just to change his schedule, which is going to fit more into your life. And then having a look at what's one habit that you could do which would assist with your stress management. So I could it be rating exercise taking a ball of meditation? What's one healthy thing that you could do, which would really have an impact on your life, and I know for me on I never did those things in the morning. I would literally just rise, outta bed and diskette dress straight away. Not have breakfast. Probably several protein shake with something, and then a breakfast bit later on. And now that I've been able to just even things I read in the morning and do my meditation. That's what's had such an impact on the day, that I'm having a really noticed that when I do those things as opposed to when I don't do them. So just I want you to write down if your got a pen and paper or just have a think about it. What's one habit that you could implement and doesn't have to be big or could be your sleep as well. How can you get more sleep if, if that's the issue? So is it going to bed Ilya or setting your alarm Ilia to be able to give you more time in the morning to create a habit? So that's what I want you to think about from this podcast is 'cause we spoke about the chronic stress in our life. What else talk about next time is actually hell way, relating to certain problems, and the stress that we are creating which I did mention in episode two, which was whereas, I'll focus when we're angry and frustrated. So hopefully, signing to get a bit of an idea nail on the things that we can control. Which is out thoughts that Steve one thing that we can control. But then, also, what are the habits that we can create which is going to really help us deal with stresses in alive? So I'd love to hear about what the habits that you change, so feel free to send me an Email at info at inside out health, wellness dot com day, you or you can find me on Facebook or Instagram inside at health wellness. Oh, also my website is WWW inside at health wellness. So I just wanna leave you wanna court now which really sums up on what I've spoken about today. Steve Marabelli said, I promise you nothing is as chaotic as it seems nothing is worth diminishing your health. Nothing is whereas poisoning yourself into stress anxiety and feel. So I just found that quote really appropriate to what I was talking about today. And if you've found this episode really helpful, I would love it, and so appreciate. If you could leave a review that really helps people find my put cost, and so that I can help more people. So if you just be able to take a couple minutes out of your day to leave a review on whatever put cost directory. You're listening to this at the moment, and I look forward to seeing you next time hope you have a wonderful day by.
Death Row Records vs Bad Boy Records - Hit 'Em Up | 4
"No to listeners this episode contains adult content and language. It's tuba twenty-fourth nineteen Ninety-three fans crowd, the stage at Madison Square Garden. They're about to witness one of the most legendary hip, hop performances of all time. Two bucks a coup and biggie Smalls take the stage together, they're good friends but far from equals. Safak is not yet signed to death row, but he is already sold millions of records and starred in two feature films. Hollywood is calling him. The next James Dean biggie. His still waiting to release his first album to buckets happy to lend big his stardom. They met for the first time earlier this year and quickly became friends. There isn't any east coast west coast hatred between them when biggie comes to California, he sleeps onto pox couch. And when to pop goes to New York, he rolls into biggies neighborhood limousine and invites big you'd be the opening act at his concerts now in Madison Square Garden. The friends have a chance to share the stage biggie may be a newcomer, but he knows how to hype up the hometown crowd at the garden. He takes the mic and starts to freestyle rapping off the top of his head. Onstage to pock feeds off his friends verse then launches in on his own. The crowd loves this pair to pock in big plans to team up again soon. But the friends are pulled in different directions biggie hopes to escape the violent world. He raps about to pock is drawn to the violence a year from now in New York City that violent world will come for two buck. And when it does it will rip his friendship with biggie apart. Business wars has brought to you by wicks dot com. Whether you're launching a big ambitious company or something a little more grassroots you want your website to look the best it possibly can my son came to me a few months back with a great idea. 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From wondering, I'm David Brown. And this is business wars. In our last episode. We saw death row conquer the industry. Thanks to a platinum. One two punch from Dr dre and snoop Dogg and Sean puffy combs closed. A major deal to give bad boy. New home with Aristotle records. Clearing the way for biggie. Smalls to complete his debut album ready to die now biggie Smalls takes bad boy to the top of the charts. But makes a powerful enemy into Pasha core. When to joins forces with death row. The rivalry between death row and bad. Boy turns into an all out war between east and west. This is episode for our series death row and bad. Boy records hit them up. It's nineteen ninety-five two years after big into pox conic performance at Madison Square Garden puppies on stage at a club in Manhattan, wearing a black suit white scarf fedora. He's got a microphone in one hand and a bottle of champagne and the other bad boys holding court, literally. King's throne sits next to puffy on the stage. Gold trim red velvet upholstery. The throne is for the new king of rap biggie. Smalls? Big and saunters onto the stage this huge body cloaked in a loose fitting tuxedo. He takes his seat in the throne lounging back and chewing gum like he's already gotten used to his new station in life is joyful smile on his face. He has reason to smile, and so does bad boy. Biggies debut went go, then platinum it has an outsold death row, but it's still a massive accomplishment. A shift of power back to the east after several years of domination by death row. Bad boy is a Cendant just as puffy predicted biggies album leaves the way for the rest of bad boy and puffy is right there by biggie side. He's a constant presence in the work of his artists. Dancing in their videos and ad-libbing in the background on their tracks on his way to the top biggie, married, bad, boy, R and B singer faith Evans now she's about to put out her own hit record other bad. Boy, hip hop and Rb acts are poised for similar success onstage biggie seated in his throne puffy roars into the microphone. To pox, SHA. Koor should be happy for his friend biggie after all he helped groom him for this moment. But because of bloodshed a few months prior to park now considers biggie and puffy his most bitter enemies and biggies success only makes to pock more determined to get revenge. The destruction of two pocket. Biggies friendship goes back to November thirtieth nineteen ninety four at quad studios. A recording studio in time square to pock is at a low point in his young life. He's got numerous court cases around the country. But the one that most troublesome is here in New York where he's on trial for sexually assaulting a nineteen year old who visited him in his hotel room. Vehemently denies the allegations. Eventually he will be found guilty of sexual abuse groping the woman and acquitted of weapons and sodomy charges, but the bad press dries up his acting jobs and his Bank account dwindles. He supporting his mother and much of his extended family so now to pox selling his services on the cheap. He walks into the quad studios lobby with three associates ready to record a verse for a friend of biggies in exchange for seven thousand dollars. Big is also in the studio that day, but before to pot can hit the button for the elevator. He's confronted by three men who draw nine millimeter pistols, get down on the ground instead of dropping to the floor to pop goes for the pistol. He keeps concealed his waist. He shot as many as five times drops to the floor where he's pistol whipped. He plays dead as he's robbed of the rings on his fingers. The gold chains around his neck when the assailants leave to drags himself to the elevator. And when the doors open on the next floor. He sees biggie and puffy staring at him biggie calls out to his friend. Pa pa. The next day happens to be the day to pock is supposed to hear his verdict in the sexual assault trial. He checks himself out of the hospital. Stunning. Doctors who were amazed. He still alive, and he rolls into court in a wheelchair. The jury finds him guilty of the sexual assault charge. But acquits him on other charges that could have carried a much stiffer penalty. A few months later. A judge hands down his sentence. I'm sentencing Yuda, eighteen months minimum pending appeal bail set at three million dollars courts journ. Two-pack doesn't have that kind of cash he sent to a maximum security prison in upstate New York. And while he's there he can't get that image of biggie. Standing over him out of his mind. It's too much of a coincidence that biggie and puffy were there to witness his humiliation. He's convinced it was a setup particularly because biggie releases the track who shot ya just a few months after the shooting to park has it playing on a loop in his mind, who sucks. From the the quick streets saw middle. Fuck all that picture. To goes public with the accusations against biggie and puffy when a reporter interviews him in prison. Biggie is stunned that his friend to park with think he has anything to do with the shooting, but to pock is hearing differently from his fellow inmates. Several approach him whispering that biggie had something to do with it. Now to park has a long time in jail to Stu about this betrayal and to think about his life and career. Before getting locked up to pop wasn't just famous as a gangster rapper. But as a poet of the black experience in the tradition of Langston Hughes to pop song. Dear mama tells the story of his own childhood where he grew up in extreme poverty with a mother addicted to crack cocaine he wrote songs that both captured and transcended that reality. As was the black. But in prison raging the perceived betrayal from biggie to pock decides he's done being an activist and done being a victim. He's ready to go to war. It's august. Third nineteen ninety-five at Madison Square Garden biggie. And to pop rock this stage together, two years prior. And now the biggest names in rap from across the country are gathering here for the source awards. This is the biggest night in hip-hop, the Grammys Oscars rolled into one. It's great to sell records to the masses. But that's nothing without respect from peers. And this is the night when rappers earned legitimacy and death row is hungry for that prize within the east coast. Hip hop community death row, isn't considered royalty. They're still thought of is newcomers may be flash in the pan, but Snoop's album is now one of the best selling rap albums in history, snoop and dre have a feeling that this is the night, the west coast will finally be welcomed as equals to any rapper in New York. They sit with sure. Near the stage surrounded by row after row of hip hop. Royalty should has no interest in winning over the east with a smile. He ruled by fear death row wins the award for motion picture soundtrack of the year for their work on the film above the rim. And shook takes the stage. He grabs the Mike his huge frame looming over the crowd. He's wearing his usual blood red. But NUP shirt, I should gives a shout out to to pock who still in jail. But after that he's done sending love to the fans and other rappers. He's out for blood. Anyone wanna be hard wanna stay star? We'll have to worry about the date of trying to be all in the video all on record. Should words are direct shot at puffy and everyone in the room knows what should is doing by disrespecting puffy on his home turf and publicly encouraging puffy artists to leave bad. Boy, he's saying to everyone in hip hop. You're either with death row or you're against us. Join up with a west or get out of the way. Visit chance real blood might be shed death row has armed bloods and Crips from the west coast in the building and bad boy has come prepared as well. The anger builds throughout the night. The celebrate Tori event turns into a turf war, even outcast. The atlanta. Rappers who have nothing to do with this beef get boos from both coasts when they accept their award. When puffy takes the stage later in the evening. He tries to calm things down. Made about there. Earlier Kant takes us out contrary to other people may feel I would like to say that I'm very proud of talk to trade a temporal night today, compliments. You know what I'm saying? I'm the positive Flatman, and I'll make bring together not radio all ISA west. But it's too late. The anger in the room has too much weight too much momentum a month from now a close friend of shrugs will be shot and killed at a party in Atlanta after arguing with bad boys on Araj, both shook and puffier in attendance, and should accuses puffy of being involved in the murder. The case is never solved. The war is growing and shook wants to pock by his side. Business wars is brought to you by one of my favorite companies. Peter Millar Peter Millar was founded in two thousand one with a single cashmere sweater. Now there are premium American lifestyle brand whose comfort fit quality and style are setting the standard in menswear. Look that's easy for me to say, but the more Peter Millar, clothing, Ione, frankly, the more impressed. 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Death row now has to under contract for his next three albums and the bail money is just an advance onto FOX future royalties. The limo drops to pocket ear for there's a private jet ready to deliver into the west coast. Once he arrives to pock practically lives in death rose recording studio in the San Fernando Valley dimly lit room, where there's no difference between night and day. He records versus as quickly as he can write them. Alternating? -ly furious paranoid an anguished he frequently references the prospect of his own death as he does on the track records during these sessions only God can judge me? Fantasy. Completes double album in just months. And when it's released at the beginning of nineteen Ninety-six all eyes on me is another dominant for four months for death row. The album goes by times platinum as quickly as it hits the shelves. Now that business is out of the way to turn his mind to biggie Smalls with his album still at the top of the charts to pop records, perhaps the most distilled piece of hatred ever put to verse it's called him up to pack releases. It is a single in it he threatens big puffy and everyone associated with bad boy in the most personal terms possible. Click. Quick claim to be. Some tickets. More cast pitches. Feels that he helped give biggie his stardom. Now, he wants to take it away. Soon. After hit them up is released big is playing a sold out show in Saint Louis alongside several other rappers biggies the headliner, but the organizers have asked him to go on early because they're worried about the fallout from his feud with two. This is the kind of tension that will inspire biggies track. What's b? Streets. The to pock is nowhere in sight. But his rivalry with biggie has become so ugly that even casual fans feel compelled to choose sides to supporters chant lines from hit him up while big is on stage when another part of the crowd chance back big e big e the two pot contingent responds to pock to pot two pot. Biggie has no idea how to deal with he dealt with plenty of hardship in his life. Plenty of danger plenty of animosity, but never from her friend worse to pox claims about his wife further erode biggies already faltering marriage too, bad boy singer, faith, Evans and she's pregnant with his second child. It's March twenty ninth nineteen Ninety-six at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles is the night of the soul train awards ceremony and both biggie and to Parker nominated for different awards biggie shows up in a white suit two-pack comes in full army cammo the show itself goes off without incident but afterwards with biggie and the bad boy entourage on the street outside the auditorium. To pockets should come screaming out of nowhere. In death rose latest piece of military hardware, a giant black Hummer to pox screaming at biggie and trying to jump out of the window before the car can even come to a stop. On the street biggie realizes his crew is surrounded on all sides by death row affiliates, his security draws guns. But no shots are fired. It's the first time biggie his seemed to pock face to face since that day when he was shot at quad studios. They lock eyes to pox blazing with anger biggies defiant biggie, barely recognizes the man he wants new, but if it's a war to pock wants, well biggie has a plan for how to end it. In the final episode of death row in bad. Boy, the war between the labels means that only one will remain standing after the deaths of two pocket biggie puffy. And Dr dre McGinn a rivalry for a new era. I hope you enjoyed this episode of business wars. Please subscribe on apple podcasts. Spotify Google podcast, Stitcher. 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"Hey it's Anna Maria tramonte and I'm excited to tell you about my new podcast. It's called more and I'll be talking to people. You may think you already know until you hear hear them here. We've got a little more time to explore and to probe and even to play a little so get ready for the likes of David Suzuki. Catherine O'Hara Margaret it out would and many others. You can find more with Anna Maria tramonte wherever you get your favorite podcasts. This is the CBC podcast. Hi I'm Matt Galloway. This is a podcast podcast. From February fifth edition of the current. The federal government says that about two hundred fifty Canadians trapped in parts of China affected by the corona virus. Will it'll be airlifted back soon. Question is when while here at home. A fifth case of the virus has been confirmed and there are questions as to how well the government has been handling that critical outbreak file. Well our national affairs panel is here to discuss that. We'll also talk about Justin Trudeau's trip this week to Ethiopia and Senegal where he is hoping to drum up support for Canada's bid for coveted rotating seats on the UN Security Council. Healthy Araj is Ottawa bureau chief for Huffpost Canada Meriva Stelle. Parliamentary correspondent for the d'Ivoire d'Ivoire and Melissa Kent is a producer with CBC news covering the United Nations from its headquarters in New York City. Good morning to you all. We'll I'll start with you. What do you make of Ottawa? Response US far to the corona virus outbreak specifically when it comes to helping those Canadians who are in China who want to come home and are waiting for a plane in to get them out. I think it's actually been pretty fast. I know there's been some criticism about the delay and yesterday we heard health minister and the foreign affairs minister. Come out and say well not that many Canadians had registered with The mission so we didn't actually know how many Canadians wanted to come out. And we thought because the numbers were so few we might be able to get eh extra spots on allied planes so like for example the. US is now thinking of sending another flight and there's some spots available on that plane. That's what I candidate was was looking at right now in the numbers swelled. It became obvious that they needed A different different plan and that plan has been hatched. I mean I think that sometimes Canadians don't realize that when they leave the borders of our country and go abroad. The government doesn't actually have a responsibility ready to Get them out of trouble. You know I used to work in consular affairs. I remember this one. This is an extreme example. But she called me from shoulder goal and was like I'm here. Where is the person to come pick me up Ling? But that's not what the government does the government doesn't pay your legal bills You know so this is a great thing. The government is doing this but I think there also has to be an understanding that this is not like business as usual. It's it's interesting everything is political But it doesn't seem as though there has been From the opposition parties who it's their job to to critique the government they they they haven't offered much criticism on this fault. Does that suggest that this is in some ways. An a-political issue of you. I think they don't really know what balance to strike. Strike and frankly when you look back at how the Conservatives have responded to mass evacuations dealings can think of is the Lebanon evacuation in two thousand and six and the conservative government. They're I same principle in ways. What's happening in Wuhan? But I think they were more criticized for it. Spent Ninety. Four million. Dollars evacuating about fifteen eighteen. Thousand People Back to Canada a process that took several weeks had more than sixty five. I've ships at departures from Lebanon to Cyprus Turkey and then flights back to Canada so I you know. The government's response is quite similar. I think lessons learned in two thousand six have been applied in this case. Meriva style how do you see. This is the Canadian government in the midst of a crisis. Where in some ways it's operating out of its its own control absolutely Is it doing a good job. Yep I think so. Far I agree with you that it's regarded as they're sort of doing the best they can in a very difficult situation As you say we're very much dependent on what China wants to agree And and to let us do we have to wait for them to let us land our plane there. We have to let them decide who can bring or not bring home in terms of permanent residents are dual citizens which they do not recognize. And so there's only so much you can do when your hands are tied right essentially A little bit over week to bring back. These people wouldn't seem overly long though the opposition has pointed out that other countries like the US S. France or the United Kingdom. Did it faster I. It does still seem to be deemed a reasonable amount of time. That's really the only opposition that we're hearing hearing so far that it has it it is taking too long. I think though where it could become a little more difficult for the government is well first off how this plane actually goes When is it going to leave already? Hearing it might be delayed twenty four hours how many people get on it. At least three hundred people have asked to leave. There are two hundred and fifty seats gets on that plane and five hundred. Sixty people are registered in the Wuhan region. So another two hundred or so Canadians. Could you know call up on Wednesday. I WANNA WANNA leave to and then what happens when they do need to send a second plane I think it is pretty much. acknowledged now by the government that they will need to send and a second plan that they're going to have to pay for the healthy point. I mean the government says it's going to foot the bill and there are questions as to whether that's the government's responsibility in some ways for something like this. I think though in this case also there's a recognition that it's not like they traveled to a region that was deemed. Dangerous this kind of sort of Sprung up on everyone and didn't necessarily Knowledge lead go to Wuhan knowing that something might go wrong. It's not like going to a country whether it's the travel advisory The Canadian government telling you you should go there and if something happens you're on your own. No one predicted this outbreak. But I do. I don't know if the money issue will haunt them so much from the opposition but I think if the logistics of second plane and delays for a second plane of repeat repeat trading repatriating people. Sorry I if that takes too long I think the opposition will be upset and I think people in Wuhan will their patients is going to start to be very thin. Most Account Canada has not closed. Its borders orders to travelers from China. The United States has set up these really strict restrictions What do you understand about what the World Health Organization has said about those measures and where Canada finds itself? Well the the. Who has said several times that its against travel and trade restrictions on China because of the new corona virus It says that so far. Twenty two countries pantries. Do us being one of them have imposed these restrictions But yesterday the Director General They're giving daily updates now on the outbreak. said that These types of restrictions only cause fear stigma. I have very little health benefit The director general also said he hopes the measures will be short lived and proportionate fortunate as he put it And he said the risk is high right now That the virus will become more widespread. But he says that ninety nine percent of the cases are in China Right now and that right now. It's time for countries to and I'm going to quote. Prepare not panic as he put it. In the meantime Beijing of fear has has criticized criticized the United States for imposing. These travels frictions praising Canada which is uncommon these days when it comes to the relations between Canada and China Praising candidate for its. It's restrained response to is Canada. Now in this weird awkward diplomatic position once again between the United States and China. I think that we needed something from them. And so we did not want to take a heavy handed approach but usually our travel advisories do mirror the travel advisories and the State Department of the US State Department says do not travel to this country. Usually our advisory kind of follow suit The fact that Ari says avoid all nonsense. non-essential travel I think most use Canadians are practically are not going to China to do business because there is no business really to be done at the moment. I know my employer for example Horizon Reisen like the parent. Company of post are has prevented all employees room booking travel to China and a lot of companies apple. Google have done the same in the fall of nineteen ninety eight. An elderly woman known as the Cat lady went missing. She had a very very distinctive silhouette and very recognizable. When let's say you're walking into town a handkerchief on her hair long overcoat like somebody that lived on the street? All police could find were thirty. Cats shot dead. I always knew something had happened to her disadvantage like that uncover the cat lady case from CBC CBC podcasts. That's changed here's a little bit Travel of a different sort The Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is travelling to Africa this week week. on a diplomatic adventure to try and and win supports And Win Ultimately Canada seat on the UN UN Security Council. Part of that rotating seat. What is he going to be doing their shopping for votes? My friends so basically we we got into this campaign late. Usually and I'm sure Melissa and talk about this. So we're basically competing for two slots in the Western bloc and other. It's called and when the prime minister personally announced that we were going to be competing for the slot Norway Ireland had already staked a claim on on those those slots the only slots available for Justin Trudeau at the time. We're in twenty twenty nine and twenty thirty unlikely that Trudeau liberal is still going to be in power then but he picked at a hard year to compete in In When we won the Security Council seat when Axworthy was foreign affairs minister stor We we basically one with the help of African nations the Huckaphony I don't know about the Commonwealth but Latin Latin America and the Caribbean there are fifty three votes and Africa and the Pacific and we need to get those votes if we have any shot at all of winning the seat It's going going to be really hard because European nations usually vote for one another and frankly we have not been a model. UN Player are international development. Assistant budget. is pretty low. We have not met the zero point seven threshold a little less than zero point. Three actually Arslan has a plan to get to zero point. Point seven by twenty thirty Norway already exceeds that plan where the of the three we contribute the fewest peacekeepers forty five Or is the only the number of U. N. P. C. Canaan UN peacekeepers In route we've shut down the mission. And Marlene you know our our report card. If you will does not not look good. Melissa you're at the UN or relates to the dance and are we arriving to Healthiest point not with particularly glittering reputation. I think Canada will have hurdles I can talk about more detail but yes. Canada is arriving late. And I'm you will see that over the next five months you can bet that any regional summit or conference any place in the world where leaders are gathering. Canada is going to be there pushing for a support for its bid and the EU summit is an obvious choice. The African block actually has fifty four countries. I've seen fifty three out there. People Forget Morocco but it actually has fifty work my Israel and Morocco and many of those countries don't make could decision on who to support until a few weeks before the boat which is actually It just it's switched. It's now scheduled to take place on June seventeenth for those who want to follow it. Live It had been scheduled to take place the week before but it conflicts with the oceans conference in Lisbon where I'm sure Canada will be represented at some level and even here at the UN the pushes on for the the red lanyard appeared and the campaign lapel pin to be basically seen at any you an event the so this is the start of a five-month blitz say their hurdles just briefly witter a couple of the girls. The Candida faces. Well I mentioned it It came late to the race All three are strong contenders but it came about a decade after the other two declared speaking of ambassadors They Ireland nor we have women at the head of the delegation which would play nicely into the US stated aim of gender parody. Norway's ambassador. Mona Juul is a sort of Rockstar. In in diplomatic circles she played a key role Along with her husband in that top secret meetings that culminated the nine hundred ninety three Oslo accords between Israel and the PLO. There's even a Tony Award winning play about those secret negotiations. It's called Oslo. It's great if you ever get a chance to see. It noted. Thank you and Canada. Ten years after the other two. So that means that a lot of the horse-trading or what U N diplomats like to call reciprocal agreements basically vote-swapping you vote for us from the Security Council will vote for your candidate for the Human Rights Council. The International Court of Justice for example sample many of those agreements were made by the time candidate nnounced in two thousand sixteen and that's not to say that countries can't change their minds. It's just harder and another big thing to watch. We'll be the Israel factor which that could affect hands chance for to your seat. The Palestinian cause is very very popular among UN member states. And if there's a big vote on the Middle East peace crisis this in the lead up to the election which is looking more and more likely with this Middle East peace planner deal of the century as Donald Trump calls it in Canada. We'll have a tough decision to make still white. It is Canada. Want the seat. Do you think I think it's mostly about prestige. I think in the Liberals case it might be to prove a point that Stephen Harper conservatives didn't win their seats in two thousand ten so we'll do it and we'll be better than them with. The prime minister was suing Canada's back an interesting example of that. Well it's an example of how they're trying to be back I I don't know if they will be back. I agree with MS L. C.. I think the the road ahead is not that easy I think. Canada believes that they have brought forward some initiatives that they think can be popular. There's a lot of money that's gone to education of girls in conflict zones There's promised the promised to help. Train women peacekeepers around the world. There's been a few initiatives on climate change that could help island countries so they're hoping that could sway a few votes in that matter but the molly mission was a big big disappointment. I mean the candidate was courted to participate in that mission sending peacekeepers amongst other things because we have bilingual forces and there was a lot of pressure on Justin Trudeau to send troops at first. It was promised that we would send up to six hundred peacekeepers around the world when when Justin Trudeau Liberals won the government we sent hunt. We'd we sent two hundred fifty two molly for a year. We refuse to renew that commitment. I don't think that that will be easily forgotten especially in the African continent and it remains to be seen what effort has been made and what progress has been made by the different People that the Liberal Liberal government kind of center around to help them with their campaign Behind closed doors. So we've heard that John was part of that effort former premier. Jacques Pitsea Joe Clark Mack Brown show of course are to the UN so perhaps they have been doing work that has brought progress to their cause during in the past few months. And we haven't heard about it but the government and the prime minister haven't really done that much lately granted. They've been busy with other files but they haven't visited Africa very much and now all of a sudden it's you know the main event of the year. I don't know if it's a little bit too little too late in this case I'll just let's see I was just GonNa say they've they've been there twice Just the last point on this. What happens if if all of this doesn't work out and candidate loses the seat? It's an embarrassment for. I would say the prime minister personally personally because he announced it I mean He. We kinda tend to forget about this because we got sidetracked with Donald Trump's election and renegotiating nafta but if the you know the the government has basically needs to prove that it can walk and Chew Gum at the same time and it has not been able to do so they gave Christie Freeland no explicit instruction to campaign pain for this if you looked at her mandate letter. She had no interest in this if they really wanted this they could have appointed a minister. Did basically just do this. Because a lot of the votes A lot of countries don't actually give directions to their ambassadors on how to vote a lot of invaders get to decide how they think their country should advert so a lot of that is based on personal relations. They want to know that they matter. Like what have you done for me lately and we just have kind of been missing an action from that campaign pain just before we go. I want to get your thoughts on another big story that broke this week. This is actually yesterday. The federal government won a big victory in its plan and to build the Trans Mountain pipeline. Expansion Federal Appeals Court dismissed. An appeal brought by several BBC. First nations opposed to this project have listened to what some of the indigenous indigenous leaders were saying yesterday in Vancouver. This is slave tooth chief Reuben. George and start lip first nation. Chief Don Tom. It is very clear that this federal government only interest is getting this pipeline through. It doesn't matter at what cost this decision. Today is is reckless. Listen to send said it clearly. Once indigenous peoples to remain has Canada's Indians to bathe the laws that they had set out to long long time time ago that just simply do not apply in today's world. We knew it wasn't fair but we're ready and all the people across Canada our allies all the people people around the world that support us that want clean water clean air clean land. This is not over meriva style. You can hear the anger in their voices. They say they're going to fight this all the way to the Supreme Court perhaps. What does this decision mean? Well I think it was the best scenario for the government as you said I think either way no matter how the court ruled yesterday today I believe it would have ended up in the Supreme Court but in this situation the government gets to keep Gets to see construction go ahead. The project is not stalled and and also very importantly Jason Kenney is not reigniting this this frustration and and this discussion of western Ilyushin. It's still there. I'm not denying it still there. But but it has an exacerbated those feelings and so the government can kind of say okay one more hurdle done. Let's just go get to the next one but I do think that it It certainly doesn't help on another file for the government which was indigenous reconciliation which was one of their big promises. And you can hear the anchor as you say I would not rule out the we see brought protests for this project that we see block as like we've seen on other projects and the indigenous communities are going to take this to the Supreme Court because because in the end what is being debated here is what is the response or the duty to consult of the federal government with these communities. Clearly they have different opinions on that audio. What is it is it in the remaining minute that we have? What do you think? This means to the government's efforts around reconciliation. Oh that's a good question I don't know frankly I think think the new you know. We have a minority government. I think that the Andy Peer GonNa try to squeeze embarrassed the government as best they can on this issue and say that you know they're empty words But a lack of action that being said nothing is like nothing happened yesterday. Changes Anything thus far like nothing has really moved and I agree with you. I do think that this is going to go to the Supreme Court just to have some sort of finality on that one issue. What does it mean for reconciliation? You know there's so many other issues that the government I think is going to try to focus on to try to take the spotlight off of this but it's not work. Well it's not gonNA work for like the SLEIGH which youth and squash nation and those who feel like they had skin in the game and are not being respected more on this as the story develops as as as we heard From those two chiefs nowhere near the end of it's great to speak with you. All thank you thank you. I'll theorize Ottawa bureau chief for Huffpost Canada. Reversal is the parliamentary correspondent for d'Ivoire Melissa Kent producer with CBC News Covering the United Nations from its headquarters in New York City for more C._B._C.. PODCASTS Goto C._B._C.. Dot C._A. Slash podcasts.
Voice in the Hospitality Space with Andreas Cooper
"The call for proposals for Voice Summit Twenty twenty is available now having the opportunity to speak at voice summit will be highly competitive this year. So of if you'd like the chance to be a speaker at this year's event fill out the form at voice summit DOT AI and Click on apply to speak proposals or only open until January thirty first so be sure to get yours in now. That's Voice Summit Dot A. I.. And Click on apply to speak voice isn't just in the US. And Andreas Cooper the director and founder under of Smart Voice Systems and futures is here to tell us about what's going on in the voice world in New Zealand class. How he's helping the hospitality industry with voice the stats? He seeing how he sees the industry growing high inside voice podcast listeners. This is your co host Kerry robbers and today my guest is Andre Us Cooper the director and founder of smart boy systems and futures welcome. Andreas thanks for being here. So glad to be so much so you live in New Zealand. What is the voice tech world like like there right now like which devices are people using most people using it overall? Can you give us an overview. It is a little bit sad and I think predominantly the reason within New Zealand marketing generally on a small small market. You know a Lotta people especially in the. US Don't even know Way Zealand aids. You know they often think it's a pot of Australia so you've got your your lexus bosses. They've made their way he and they're making their wage. owns the Google home device. I don't believe is officially companies needs parallel importing. It by don't think. Google is planted a flag yet a fishery easy on insane that I look across Australia. I looked at the penetration. Trey Shen into homes fold Google device and it is the at twenty five to thirty percent of homes. Have a smart device in them very close to Australia Australia. Eighties brooming and sadly it does feel like we're kind of try you blazing or we're hearing Zealander and we can see what's what's happening but the market over here just. Isn't you know way we would hope it would be a little more or less too much travel nowadays. We rates Australasia Australasia. With a wall of what we're doing so again. Nothing major going on here yet but as you can see the rest of the world is adopting a fos and it's only a matter of time and what guy you personally interested in the voice tech world world. Initially it started we'd features and so we found some product in We imported that order from our Chinese manufacturer. rebranded it on the futures and that was home. Motivations that's a home product which we brought to New Zealand got at tested to the standards and insisted on sailing and we still actively sell this automation product. Not convert open their eyes to voice. We gotTA hands on you know this about two years ago which which hole for the New Zealand is is probably the days day of add them of the US. You know you can end devices five the keys to we go and from a it was. Yeah it was like that we saw exactly what a lot of people like yourself and you know I'm working with voice in the US and the UK and around the well we saw what they saw and we saw future way. You're going to have one of these devices if not very close to that and then from there who sold some of the the decisions like Google and Amazon will making in terms of you know The corporate world or or the hospitality industry Is Real big opportunity here and in opposite of a full but he can live in a museum Australia and you can have a small amount of vision of what the rest of the world is doing. You can beat the rest of the crowd you know and you can say i. We're GONNA do this. We're going to be the first ones to bring into this market and again all the taxes have a little bit of insight would just kind of being booming and growling and Bert Roach Audit I like that a lot and your company focuses primarily in the hospitality industry. Can you tell us how voices being used in the Australasia area. Sure who's all preface we partner directly with our David Berger and his team at being setting the foundation for Boyce systems software full. The house costs down the street. Oh I believe and I think it's a I don't think it's a a false fully that flour and what they're doing in. US UK in the world is the the only if not the primary voice software for the industries. We record it software and would just find flagging Australasia. And saying we're ready you know we're we're waiting. He and even if it may take a hotel eight. You've been Amazon year. I would say be waiting for year. We're ready when you are who radio you bring in this part of the world and insane that your question these again are sadly in this part of the world they just don't have the vision for it so it does feel like in every conversation tation on having you know and every presentation I do or when I'm bringing it to hotel chains or or other businesses you really have to paint a whole patrol. Told them they don't quite see. See what we see and passionate. I think because of the harm penetration poll smart speakers. I think it takes these speakers to make it into John's wearing the US it's very high in the UK. Europe it's even higher. You're getting be smart. Speak Up Gene-o I think. Forty fifty percent harms have one of them. And I think that's what it's GonNa take and right now our Australasia. You do have Chinese or Asian equivalent speakers so you'll always have that competition of some of the key areas for US US Pacific Islands Philippines. You Know Senior Zealand and border region. You know what we're ready to bring the lower solution right now. Like I said it's minimal very few businesses I think even a focusing on it where I again I look to the US UK. And you know. I feel like I'm in the wrong part of the world. Yes that's part of the state where it's at but we're ready. We're just waiting for businesses and we have two alleged not so. Yeah I mean I think even the US in the UK you're seeing people adopted dip but there's still the element of a lot of education being needed for the average consumer or business. So it's not just you guys. Don't worry I'm glad to hear that I loved odd that you focused not just on voice assistance but also boys personalization automation. saw some of your videos. which are great rice laying how you do that so for those? That haven't seen the videos can talk about some examples of how hotels airbnb could do this. Yep He's ultimately again what using that are back in software and with that gives you customization to integrate so for. Let's go with AIRBNB. He's EB specifically HOSTS DON'T WANNA have to get questioned at all hours of the day you know Ma- maybe they travel the world lauder. Will maybe more of a passing thing for them. What would I do with the Blair? Software is we've that hosted with ABM we can customize responses specific questions that guests would ask. How do you use the stars had the washing machine? Your Voice we can program in the guest the whole story that response when a guest us out of I use the washing machine. How do I use the stove? It's GonNa Custom response specific to that property and so then that guest. He's an hounding that host with information that you know for for the host obviously Dane but when you're traveling somewhere so lonely can be foreign to you you so hitting that Smith nations. We think it's a real value add. The motivation is pretty simple. Not loaded Integration for those native Amazon integrations. You can get we know pretty much worst control of any single thing in your harm nowadays redistributing smart hit offering to all of our abm bays just because not. Because you need it just because it's a wow. Oh how factor you know if the guess those Ambien Bayan making. Boil the kettle rebel Voice of the great shots. They remember that experience. And you'd be reflected in the reviews as you know and that's why we're seeing tremendous growth and that's why we pushed the Valerie in eldest miss some things you can do outside of automation for automation lucrative. The magic the magic that you don't soon forget and if they're gonNA adding some room controls even if it's just lights aiding great blinds will. Oh curtains juice phenomenal by win against do that. And they may already have it in the home or they may not experience in the home. They're gonNA feel like you're at home because they already can do it at home if they have it or if they've never experienced the full it's going to be like oh my gosh wow and again. We're seeing that year reviews and it's reflected and hotels all about reviews airbnb being being property all about their reviews and one of the strengths of having voice in your property flows in hotels and in airbase. Yeah and like I said some of the videos as you had thought you had a really cool on where there was a wedding and so initially Axa's boys but then the wedding couple speaks as you ask them a question about. Where do I go for the wedding? What do I need a couple speaks to you and then you can like you said move the blind? I mean there's just so much that can happen and I think your video show a great mix of it. which makes it really exciting for anyone? That's traveling all the things that can be done with. Ease Charlie that wedding specific demo. It's a customized personalized recording from a Koppel and again that's put into the back end of our software and so when a guest that Araj the wedding. Let's say it's at the hotel. They arrived at the wedding. The hotel maybe even a conference or an an event old I have to say is Alexa. I'm for the wedding or maybe make it a bit more specific Alex. I'm here for the smiths wedding or the wedding and it's GonNa then throw out that. Personalized is recording from the wedding. Couple themselves to welcome them and it really adds a level of personalization necessarily example of already. We think thank hotels to really take it to the next level you know. Put in personal recordings from the hotel manager specific welcoming the guests. Maybe it's the first thing they experienced. Come on US Alexa. So again my say and that's a a personalized recording from the manager per se. And you're gonNA feel a connection to that hotel true that brain and again. We think that's going to loyalty. And that's what hotels are after and nothing's really strong very easy to do US migration with flowers office so from back in so we love it. It got my Asian to the empty agree as long as you have the imagination the hotels to do it and we can help. Yes and I your passion for it is just so wonderful. What has been the overall feedback from users or any data that you can share so far extremely positive and was seen even just the analytics in terms of how much guests using the devices ruined or not? You're looking at asked six to seven request specific to that loss you know and then we'd bet that it's the hotel sixty seven digital interactions with that guests. You know so guess to using it especially appropriate opera me in the US. Way Eh. Holden penetration again. Like I said is quite high so they understand how to use a little bit better you know again with over here in in New Zealand in the US again there the education so what we do. We don't see this collateral. We try to help them as much as we can. But it is pretty natural life when you ask a question. Overseas Union over the command is initial trigger. Forgot which I grew once. You've done that with the blouse subway. We've pretty much customizing. Any question in any barechested. How you ask that question so it's GonNa hit every time so even if asking for a cow slip is beginning to get that no matter how they ask that question? So that the daughter and the initial feedback getting of see the reviews that were saying. It's a little hard to get the exact specifics. All the reviews that they're generating revenue and that's a big one for us and big want a hotel it's L. as well as pushing guest to onslaught soon so they make requests Berlet's at cocktail or as the nearest restaurant with the best restaurant. Or what do you recommend with the hotel. We push them to the that restaurant we offer them at ten percent batch and then you know. Hotels are seeing a ten to fifteen percent increase in revenue to through those specific Beta news. That they have on side again six to seven requests. Not so you know and I asked hotel keeping track of your guests. Sixty seven more tongs day visit. Would you take and how much value would that be too. And that's kind of you know one of the big strong pitchers that we say that we think the Dodd is the reflects in revenue. And really right stuff that we can. We can do outside of those things. Yeah I mean. Roi Again always the big question. So where do you guys as long as the next phase of voice going in the hospitality industry specifically. Yeah okay I will you got the rest of the world and by me talking different dialects. Alex looks different accents. Broken English all these things so we are kind of limited to a Google and Amazon dot now into the bay support what languages they support night's eighteen Greek and then what we can integrate with. So it's already a matter of time but like I said Wiki ready quite easy go and when I'm already when hotel impossible to ready who tell and yet women waiting for at six months to a year. Let's do this so you've got the hotel industry which has got no ago. Roughly just too late fees you half a million beds or hop million and then that's just a hotel industry. You've got the whole ebb industry which we're really excited about a little bit of the scale of a little smaller property. But are we still think that you know that is revenue to be made there that you've got the whole cruise ship industry you go all of those on streaming saw about his age brings things vices he do h especially some of private ones with potentially adding impersonal. I'm accounts to H residents communicate with their their loved ones just from a simple voice come on human simple voice commands of automations that we spoke about sort of lower software and hospitality into those key sectors. Those few and again. It's only a matter of harms so much to this voice. Control make sense in terms of empowering certain industries booting revenue for some of them Helping you you know that age K.. You know improve their lot. dister small little things so the line of duty. A lot of Apply Limited by Amazon Bay saying yet. We're ready to go the by again soon as they already will be ready to six months to a year so again Exciting yes. Where can people learn more about? You talked about today on bare react on lengthy and on posting you know he's not everyday videos demonstrations so this driest Kufa on link Dean or our website. His voice systems are dodd. said yet which is going to link to videos Valera specific videos to ones. We're doing so you know you're in any part of the world and from the US the UK draws drolet. You can reach out David Muir same reach out to us. And also we can pretty much customized any solution that you want. Even if it's not an austerity ministry mystery. You know there's a lot you can do so it's exciting times voice. I'm excited to be part of the on. The first. If not in this part of the world does feel like you know anyone explaining the boy's face you know is You know an entrepreneurial trail breezy and it's real excited to be on the wave of the month and the last question we'd like to ask on this show to kind of help promote the voice as a whole is there a flash briefing scale or voice experience that you've been using a lot and really enjoying recently will for me it's actually the NFL. Oh on a pig. NFL supportive just with business. I don't often get a you know. Check it on the daily. So that's kind of one of the first ones that I say just getting updates. Yeah and it school specific. The biggest kind of that it's local weather earn sadly again some are slash three three for New Zealand Limited. Or maybe that somebody we helped with but formerly. NFL May just getting those those excites everyday. Really perfect thank you so much for sharing your energy and excitement for all that you do. Andreas knows absolute pleasure. Thanks for reaching out. Yeah I'm real excited to be on podcast. Thank you for listening to the inside voice podcast. We greatly appreciate you being part of our community and if you enjoyed this episode so you like the podcast we would love it if you would subscribe follow leg share. Leave a review of the show. If you have any questions comments feedback people you want to see on the show things you WANNA learn. Feel free to send us an email at Carey at motive dot com that's K. E. R. I at M. O. D. E. DOT COM and be sure to check us out online at Voice Summit Dot. Ai Thank you and we look forward to chatting with you next week.
Heist | 2
"People don't realize how. Movies Affect People. and. I'd ask guys they robbed a bank fill. Where'd you learn that I watched a movie I watch them robin banking does you're influenced by it and also influenced by Guys Late Hero Zorro was a cool guy you know and handsome and all, but he wore masked. And then as influence the Bologne Ranger he did the right thing but he warned minutes. So later on in my life, put a mask wasn't a big deal to me. On the night of October twenty, ninth nineteen, Sixty, four Jack Murphy took everything he learned from the movies and from his prolific jewel thieving days in Miami and set off with his friend in partner Alan Kyun He put on his mask and set in motion a high. So brazen that it would become the basis of Hollywood motion picture just a few years later. For Jack and Allen. It was showtime. My name is Scott. I'm a reporter and editor with four the win in USA Today Sports This is the sneak. Last episode, we left off with Jack Murphy and his partner Alan, Kuhn heading to New York angry that they've been duped by a socialite who during a robbery had given them a counterfeit diamond. Well Jack and Allen did most of their work in Miami. The two weren't afraid to travel how many jobs do you think you and Alan pulled together before New York we had a couple of years of just. Let a fun but it wasn't all Miami. I mean we're somebody says well, so-and-so in Nevada meadows. Holden, there's somebody in Los Angeles is. Is. made the. Desert just don't want to stay in one place and because they know who you are heated up. So travel in and out Jack and Allen. Were used to going out on the road to get a job done. So they're trip to new. York wasn't totally out of the ordinary. Though this time, they weren't the only ones on the adventure. They had another power them Roger Clark who was Roger Clark and how did you get introduced to run Clark was one of our buddies in Miami he is one of dozens of guys it. We're all friends and we'll partied booth Roger Clark Analogy Kyun if since passed away he was from. He was Vermont. And least we're going up the coast and we're going to New York and we're GONNA do this. Flan come down to stay with you. The crew was set Jack Murphy. Alan. Kyun Roger Clark. Descended on New York. At first, they were content to party. The Yankees were in the world series and the jazz clubs and dance halls were hopping off the three young handsome and had money to burn. Then they got their eyes on something bigger. We to rain all the different museums, get galleries and going to the fashion shows and all and eaten in the fancy restaurants and we go into the museum, and we see all this this gills in their the museum was the museum, of natural, history. The. Jewels were the J. P. Morgan Gem collection which included the star of India and the Delong Ruby to gem. So large and flawless, they couldn't be valued. They are to the few things on earth that can accurately be described as priceless. So automatically, check it out check out the windows chick at the setting where we at and what's the security like in the doors are locked with chains a and locks on the doors, and you is medically check that out. Jack says they hadn't decided to rob the gyms yet but thanks to his thief's instincts he couldn't help but think about how he would do it. And he knew Allen was thinking exactly the same thing. I'm a scientist that believes the tools of science are the way to understand the natural world. One needs to be rigorous about that. But I'm also a believer in a personal, God? I'm in the Museum of Natural History in New York City I find the scientific world view and the spiritual worldview to be entirely complementary and I find it quite wonderful to be able to have both of those worldviews existing in my life be day because each eliminates. The museum is located on Manhattan's upper west side right up against. Central Park. People, sometimes. Is that evolution is just a story about the past. So it doesn't affect my life today that simply isn't true. The museum is massive and impressive even a weekday morning. There are a lot of people around school groups and such. It looks and feels like a normal museum but as I've immersed myself in this case for the past month, get a Russian here. I wonder. I've done it. A. Move alone, the museum imagining that I'm a cat burglar. Now casing the joint breaking down how would make it happen how I would slip in undetected move gracefully silently through its cavernous halls then walk out with a priceless treasure. This fantasy lasts about three minutes and then I realized that I'm totally completely lost. I walk around for over half an hour looking for the hall of gems before I checked the museum's website on my phone and a tiny note I previously missed tells me that the hall is actually closed. My jewel thief careers off to an inauspicious start. Dejected I find a tour guide to confirm this. Jim disclosed. A couple years a while. Going to do not only refurbishing a Paul rebuilding the whole back of the museum well, it was furious with myself from my lack of planning disappointed I wouldn't get to see the gems that Jack Murphy grabbed fifty six years ago. The trip wasn't offer not. I got to see the space experience it. It's undeniable that the museum is a crossroads between the past and present a grand old time machine at the heart of one of the most modern cities on earth I think it's seventeen buildings I mean if it is it's huge. It's like four city blocks. Corey Co, Gannon a reporter for the New York Times who covers the city. He interviewed Jack. October twenty one thousand nine hundred and you know, and now the world knows that museum now. Partly. Because of the night at the museum movies Ben Stiller and you know. One of those moves. So memorable is like it's like the whole world brought into a museum you got history you got dinosaurs. Nature, you got the got y'All's Jack and corey disgust among other things the technical aspects of the theft in great detail. They also talked about as the kids say the game. And that pre game routine before the heist. It really was a pre game. I mean he said he had a few beers in them. First of all, like he went out, those guys went out before that beforehand whether it was kind of like a happy hour type of thing, and they were shooting pool that drinking beer and then they went they kind of drove past it and they had their reservations about doing it. I don't care what we do in but Rogers says, no, don't don't be messing. With that stuff he said too many people were in town. He says we go to jail is too high profile and they were people kind of knew they were in town and knew they were around this wasn't the only thing they pulled off in New York City and those few weeks that they were up from Miami and they pulled up other robberies word was getting out about the handsome surf boys who were stealing things in and around New York City. And while Roger was nervous Jack, and Ellen couldn't stop thinking about the J. P. Morgan Jim Collection. They scouted the place and thought they could do. So after a few drinks Jack says they convinced Roger just drive them up there just to check things out. Okay we'll just take a look. We're just going to go down there and take a look at it. Just check it out. See what the schedule the routine of the guards are. So Araj our partner. I said man just drop us off. So he dropped us off. So we went on, we climbed up the south side of the building and according to Jack at least that was it. There were no longer checking things out. They were robbing the Museum of Natural History. You. Picture like these kind of like Suave. Jewel thieves in the movies if you know that kind of having that poison that calm and like just the being all about the highest And not not youtube bit stick on the face and run away with know with a bunch of water cash I mean this. And these guys certainly weren't that we had Irish airline bag with tools in it and all I had one hundred, twenty, five feet of rope and we went in and pull off the robbery, but to do it was real. It was it was a an a not an easy thing to do building his large bricks link big old castle type thing, and there was a little tiny narrow ladder. Thank couldn't have been more than five inches wide but we could make a whistle. We may go way up to that to a lead. So we have to go about one hundred feet down this ledge down this wing, and then we'd take a left and now we directly over. The J. P. Morgan Jim that side of the J. P. Morgan Jim Rome had these large large windows in it large windows that they kept open so that there'd be air ventilation in there. The J. P. Morgan Gem collection was so valuable. It wasn't even able to be insured. In the museum had left, the windows open the go in there go on the museum and we're in there. Were in there about four or five hours. This is what sets Jack and Allen Apart from your common smashing grab burglars, the guy's got inside right up to the gems. And then they waited the reason they have so much success with this thing was a big took their time. And they waited until the guard with know common then go and then they were and then they worked on these fuel cases in the thick glass. The gems were museum display cases and we're separated by glass. So they methodically had to break each glass pain. Then they had to wait, we would make some really then you've got to wait to see that anybody hear anything. So you just don't have you have a short time. Every hour to work jacket would smash the glass then sweep up the shards to make sure no one could see anything. Over and over, we clean it up, Allenwood watch the very gums. So the I would come up and jiggled a lock on the cage they're. Standing right there. Right next to him because anything went down. He belonged to me. Luckily for Jack and the guards on duty that night no one saw anything. So anyway we get through, we get the three stunts. We get the midnight, Sapphire, the largest black Sapphire and the world actually black with Purple Center on it. Then you've got Delong Ruby, which is the second largest star Ruby in the world then you've got the star of India, the largest. Sapphire in the world, and then in this flat case with all these stones that were emeralds and diamonds and rubies, and sapphires, aquamarine and Topaz a knowledge though I just cut a corner that case out and I had a large squeegee I found in the janitors box, and I just reach in and I squeezed everything over there with some we got all of those check size twinkle when he talks about stealing the Delong Ruby and the Star of India This is one of those moments in his life. He loves to talk about for. Jack. This was the highpoint. The newspapers people were seeking him out. That's Gordon who wrote about Jack for Vanity Fair and Twenty Fourteen for the fiftieth anniversary of the heist. There was glamour attached. No one got hurt. It was interesting to us that Merrill mentioned no one getting hurt. We heard that from several people talked to us about this crime. They told us that part of the reason it got so much. Attention was the fact there was no violence. And while that was true jacket told us something in Florida that complicated that a bit. So you said the guard would have been yours were you guys armed? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't I. Didn't go to the bathroom but go surfing without a pistol that tight as Jack, told it now, the men were just staring suave cat burglars. They were armed. And as Jack put it if a security guard came up. He belonged to me in all the accounts I read. I. Don't recall. Mentioned of gun that night. So again, I don't know but I don't recall. Anybody mentioning it maybe it doesn't change the story for you. The fact that the men were armed. But for at least one of the reporters who has dug deep into the story, it did the hair on the back of my neck is sort of standing up at this moment that sell Bono, a senior reporter for inside edition and host of inside edition's New York Gritty series that ran a profile in Jack in the heist last year. He had known the men were armed now again, only those three guys were in that room and two out of the three have since passed away. But in the accounts that they gave prior to their passing, no one was armed. So to hear about this now it's Doesn't make it an innocent story. Birth story about actually exiting the museum was found like amazing. That's Corey. Kill Gannon from the New York Times again. And he's right. In Allen's escape, it was wild. Mountain and we're in this little park and let it was the police always went in pairs. At that time of night and that area because you're right next to Central Park Jackie now and walked out and saw the cops they waited for a moment but the police didn't seem to be looking for them. So they split up made a plan to meet later I, walk into the park in as I'm walking through this little park and I don't have. But I don't have about one hundred feet to go through this bill. Trail that and here comes to policemen their were two cops come in like right towards him and he just kind of straightened up and like pretend that he was like talking to some guy, walking his dog. The dog and the dog hey, man and I'm talking to the guy and he's looking at me like I'm crazy and hey, man I'm the cops by off Syria and these two cops walk right by me said a load of them in here he has this kinda shoulder bag full of all these Julia, some of the most precious jewels on the world he's just stolen minutes earlier they made it. The Jacks night was an over. Going down to party a little bit. Because I figure we're GONNA get busted and he goes in Hausa cabin goes down like not like no not back to the hotel not to reconvene with your buddies but he goes down to some jazz club and you know stands up to the bar is still holding the bag of jewels and orders a drink and starts listening to the jazz missing was at that time. You didn't care what the hell we'd done crazy wild things and. It was just part of life. We'd done things that we should have got busted on time and time again, and we walked through it walked out of it. Jack. Hit up a few more clubs Sasa music then went back to his hotel where he found something surprising ellen sitting out on the curb. When I when I walk up there what are you doing says? He said, I don't have. You don't have a cage we just want the museum and you don't have a key. Alan. Cuny just broken into the Museum of natural history but hadn't been able to break into his own hotel room. So we go upstairs and and we get in in in our room shower and. My arm is all bandaged up here because I fell on that. In the gravel earlier. So he cleaned up and I'm measuring the stones, there was only one problem. The, jewel scale they had was only built to measure jewels that were few carrots at most. It makes sense most diamonds you might find in a wedding ring way to carrots or fewer. A massive diamond might be three or four carats. Why would you need more? So the guy's jury rigged a system using coins on one side as a counterweight figured, they can make a rough guess that way. This was how they got their measurement for the Star of India. Five, hundred, sixty, five carats gayshill still marked down we'll it is on the Kleenex. Five. SF`er. Anyway But all these jewels on the chair next to me and locked the doors like three in the morning. And it's watcher. and. Came in and he says To Go. Didn't go said they had dogs and I said we got stuck in the bushes. and. So He Said I told YOU GUYS You've wasted more time. An Allen came out and he took the tell he says, what do you think of that? Laura Look I. Think we're going to jail so. So the next morning Allen I left and he takes his girl with him. that he met their Janet Flakowitz, her name comes up in the. Janet flakowitz lived in New York and started seeing Allen right before the crime occurred. Unwittingly she became a major player in the heist, the getaway driver who was Roger Clark Roger Clark drove to Connecticut to go visit family while Allendale Koon and Murph. The SURF got on a plane and went to Miami next day. Again, this is sal bono with a girl that. Allen had. Sort of had a thing with you don't know if he was in love with her or was it a less thing or if he was trying to find an innocent bystander to use manipulate. In order to help them this this innocent vice then this woman named Janet, Florida, wits, unknowingly, mules, the jewels to Miami, so we'd go out to the airport and I have a little overnight bag a woman's overnight by there was my go fence. It was yellow with some flowers on it now. So I told Janet. I said, would you carry this? It looks a little Nellie for me to be carrying this thing this gut, all the jewels in it and all and and I'm clean. So anyway, we fly to Miami and I get off and. I get off I and I walk with my girlfriend meets me and step into bar here Jack was dating a woman at the time named Bonnie loose who terra taken her on some big robberies just big mansions. New People weren't there and we'd been in the jacuzzis in the round beds and we just took over in, but she'd been in some adventures Jack told Bonnie about the highest and she Jack Allen got to celebrating that night she and. Allen and I and we're in the room, the stars stones irrelevant. You put a flashlight on a pin light when it gets in the right position, we'll all the legs drop down the white legs they sort of explode. The Star of India gets its name because it's a star Sapphire it's Jim that when you shine light on, it displays what's called the Asteroid Sim, which is a six rates star Shimer's over the surface of the stone it is moved. If you can look it up by all means do so. It's gorgeous. Roland of Guzzler path out by just having a great time and and the next day we did something the Nukes. Newspapers came out with all of the headlines and then the day after that the we're getting ready to go out in in a boat and and all the FBI kick the Dorian and. Showtime. It hadn't taken long for the FBI to find Jack Murphy but their attempts to recover the priceless gems would be a months long ordeal. One in which lawmakers allegedly started playing is dirty as the crooks they were hunting. And in the movie of Jack's life, he finally took his starring turn becoming national folk hero in the process but even all this is still just the beginning of Jack Story. Once more, this is the voice of Cell Bono. The highest is probably the least interesting thing in the story about the heist, which is crazy because it goes from being this. Innocent Fun screwed up heist and story where again no one gets hurt to suddenly this savage and horrific thing. So yeah, when I found out that there was then later a murder. My stomach dropped because that's not where you expect these things to go that however is exactly where things went. Wrong. A. The sneak is a production of for the win in USA Today. It is written and produced by myself along with Anthony Patillo. Our field recordist is Gustavo, molar music, supervisor and audio engineer is Clare Morgan nod early. Research by Emily, 'cause video and image worked from a manual Lozano and Eliza Williams. Are Executives are Mark Highland, Scott Stein in kate gunman. Special. Thanks to the USA Today podcast squad Shannon Green and Clare Thorn and the crew wondering especially our marketing wizard Alex Carpenter. Additional. Thanks to the investigative team at the Naples daily, News for their help with reporting and the amazing team at Miami. Dade College's Wolfson archives provided our footage.
He's A Baaaaad Man (Hour 1)
"What's going on everybody welcome into I take on a Monday back in NYC hope you all had a fabulous weekend he is Max Kellerman he is Stephen a Smith I'm Molly Karen back has this I did I haven't gotten any sleep I'm still wide awake I read I read what's that he was forcing any argument is really that simple to me Russell Wilson we've been talking about a level of consistency that he had put forth okay we looked at deck are you good numbers Deshaun Watson Lamar Jackson these are all excellent? MVP candidates but much like when mahomes doc Rogers deserves that credit early in the season and over the last two weeks stephen a he's done things no one except mahomes can do and rodgers now mahomes isn't there we're talking about a one loss team so rogers like Tom Brady gets credit for his team's won loss record right well they're on three years throwing it to a spot where only the offense has a chance to make a play running the roadway across his body so Christian McCaffrey we talked about consistency that he put forth up until yesterday Patrick mahomes consistency until he went down obviously Dak Prescott fell off after the two win eventually last week because you look at how it was working out it's a one loss team who's the most likely to perform the best down the stretch considering mahomes is hurt Matt Moore and the chiefs on Sunday night football thirty one to twenty four Rogers has eight passing two zero interceptions in his last two games last night it was thirty fourth career game with three hundred healthy I'm like look it's Mahomes but what about this mahomes is just different what did I say even the only guy in mahomes category in terms of talent is needed at even if Brady's game managing he's not putting up huge numbers of really doing spectacular things but you say rightfully so he deserves credit for being the captain of the ship by Keep Russell Wilson Russell has put up numbers but in years past has an always put up eye-popping numbers but you know what he's the quarterback got a good team he's making it worse when it gets the Philadelphia Eagles are game and Thursday night football which they lost we will wondering whether or not they were going to get it together it wasn't up until Dallas that we really started seeing Aaron Rodgers guys I'm not even like I could talk about sixteen touchdowns two interceptions all that stuff stephen a I'm not even GonNa go to the numbers on this one because Russell Wilson Organza weren't even talking about him like this we will wondering whether or not him and met the flu would ultimately get their act together and Bob because the defense was basically carrying I'm not saying that he will win Mvp I'm not saying he won't deserve it once the season is over but based on their first eight games of the season I say no and here's the reason why the first this is what he'd do took a took a little part of the season to adjust to it where they almost never lost and now he's doing this he's the MVP favorite while I disagree with you position to usurp him look Russell Wilson has the best overall argument you're asking me who I would give the MVP to or who I think should be the field where Stephen as you got four or five good candidates Rogers is finally in the position where we say what would Aaron Rodgers do if he had a defense in a running game this if by the end of the season we looked at him and said okay this is the MVP but after the first eight games the first four games there were too many being is the level of consistency that has been shown from the likes of a Russell Wilson I would say that that's my favorite would Aaron Rodgers coming up the rear way the way he spread the ball around two weeks did you see the past we just showed what what once again to where it's not like just kind of hail his team now he was completing first game the only complete six percent of his best against Chicago then it was up to sixty four percent didn't went down fifty percent against Denver didn't went up to fit sixty four percent pass yards three passing San Marino Max should rodgers now be the MVP favor he should be and I thought it should be the and put the differences rodgers can do stuff wilson just can't he's going forward as great as Russell Wilson is the three games of the season with the Philadelphia Eagles Aaron Rodgers is definitely elevated himself into the conversation and it wouldn't shock me at all down interception ratio isn't what the other guys you can make that argument to Shawn Watson has that magic stuff right I get it Russell Wilson has an excellent all around case but numbers when your eyes are on the home you those other dudes can't do that that's what we're seeing from Rogers right now so in a pack of quarterbacks who all have good arguments like Lamar to me he's a poor man's Aaron Rodgers not poverty stricken but like whatever Russell Wilson can do you want your quarterback to do rodgers can do but a little bit wetter than Russell Russell Wilson is more talented than Roger that he's better than Arron Rogers what we're talking about his MVP and you're talking about the MVP it's not based on your team is based on your own individual performance in terms of the level of consistency that you may have put on display the first half of this season the first quarter of this season route and furthermore when you say mvp favorite make odds right now who would you put your money on who should be the MVP favourite at this point was right we've lauded Russell Wilson for finally getting the credit he deserves he's been a top five quarterback for half decade now right somehow people like I was arguing with Jonathan Vilma weather us wondering whether or not he was struggling to be a front runner. I'm not going to go that far four weeks I'm saying to you I'm looking at Russell Wilson and I'm saying Russell Wilson to me is the front runner chip marks about him and the flu and how they were going to get the they were going to get they were winning doesn't matter we talking at the compensation is not about the Green Bay packers winning due to loss right in fact Rogers teams is one so you're talking about Roger's inconsistency early where they're winning at this point Rogers team is one more than Brussels or not he's a hall of fame I Russell Wilson Hall of Famer if he never played another game super bowl winner the whole thing he he did all that when you look at it sixteen station by Emirati being an MVP and based on those first four games when we had so many questions even though I'm impressed with what I've seen for the last four games because it's no shock what it it wasn't the MVP favorite it was the MVP front runner right now Russell Wilson to me is the front runner think about if you're talking about Jackson does stuff with his legs that you go the other guys can't do that the Shawn Watson has that magic stuff that he can do at end of game so even if his Roger is at this point basically the same thing it's re- seventeen touchdowns one interception sixteen touchdowns two interceptions about one difference difference of one pass really dot com that's C. I. N. T. S. dot com cintas provides a wide range of products and services that enhance his customers image and it also eddie until Amer- Rogers and Leflore got it together and I'm saying they've got his autograph doing enough to live for we explain why Rogers in your changing the criteria because this is not a question about who's the most talented quarterback I've called Araj the most talented quarterback I've ever seen in my life we don't believe that he's trust Sentas to help them open their doors with confidence get sentas and get ready for the workday learn how Cintas can help your business get ready at Cintas you you explain it because you would have complaining about it that he was talking about it. Aaron Rodgers was adjusting to a new which would be held against them if they were losing Aaron Rodgers came from not even being a part of the conversation to be in at number two arguably coming up I'm saying I'm not ready to give him number one because over the mediocre this whole time the difference between him and Russell Wilson in terms of touchdowns interceptions is one pass like it's sixteen to two seventeen to one I would my retort to that there were huge questions about Arabs and metlife learn whether or not they would get things together over the last four games they have based on that rich you're right except that one the quest think about think about what you're saying though Russell Wilson we've lauded because when mahomes even healthy we were saying boy Russell Wilson's coming up on wishers and testing and training and compliance courses cintas helps customers get ready for the workday for more than ninety years the company has worked to help businesses big and small credit when he's putting up okay number but the team is winning and I think there's an argument to be made there in other words if you're keeping the ship steady because you rely on your defense whatever good quarter look more professional and run more smoothly cintas focus on the details so you can focus on keeping your business running at its best delivers everything you need to open your door homeowners and renters insurance can be there's no finger pointing going on and that's not the type of team we are so we need to be hard on ourselves you know the accountability thing is you know making sure everybody's locked in each and every play you know I can't have is on everybody every single time would you after the first few weeks you're talking about Arab Rogers and Matt Leflore just like I was so the point is is that Amer Rogers going from not being talked about at all the Cleveland browns are one of the most talked about teens this summer filled with talent on paper yet here we are halfway through the regular season Britt at this point the reason I liked mahomes even when other guys number started catching up is because when your eyes are on I mean you should appreciate this even am not going by the ask job at the first eight weeks Russell Wilson has been more of a consistent. MVP saying it's fair I'm saying this is the way I feel neither can the coaches it's gotta be within the position groups and making sure everybody's you know in the right place right time we lost the game that's not what we came here officially jumped off the bandwagon maximum no not officially maybe unofficially am looking for the lifeboat but look I said you can also check tape I wars with confidence Cintas is a proud fortune five hundred company that is involved in over four hundred charitable causes and community events gets in see them three and four worst case scenario two and five after seven games because when I looked at the schedule first of all whenever a team I comes together especially when you take a pass protection touchdowns two interceptions seventeen touchdowns one interception and they're both on one loss teams excuse me Russell Wilson how many losses do does do the seahawks half right now awesome and their numbers are almost Max play detained the more you talk the more you're incriminating yourself because nobody lamented the state of affairs and Green Bay's with green based off the steelers the bengals the cardinals who you know better than you figured they'd be but are not world leaders the Ravens is the tough draw and then the Bengals US and get your business on track I'm pretty sure newhouse might be haunted things you say that the furniture is levitating on the ghost welcome home vacs do that Aaron Rodgers ships no that's not true how that's the number we acknowledged that the defense was what was keeping mm-hmm yeah that's that's what's really scaring missing out on Gyco for help with homeowners and renters insurance gyco makes it easy to see a bunch helps keep their facilities and employs clean safe and looking their best with products and services including uniforms mats mops restroom supplies first aid and safety products fire extent good as the Patriots are no one comes close to them because other than the bills they haven't played anyone including the browns who obviously don't have their act together yet it plays an enormous part look it's I love how you try to get so slink and change the narrative I am not trying to sit up ten say let's ignored again it's a very easy schedule by NFL standards the rest of the way and if you think that doesn't play a part in how a team performs look if you can win that division with nine Games which you might be able to with nine wins they're going to have to reverse this kind of two and five go five and two over there next but I remember you talking about their talent I remember you talking about how gifted they work and how it really east one if not both to remain it like even have me on the bandwagon at all let me tell you listen to you here and it's not going to happen so we might as well say getting the MVP award all right hey hey I'm Molly Carolyn you're listening to the first take podcast more than one million businesses her you're riding that train are thought push for them would be a playoff win they'd have they had to win a playoff game for the season to be a push yeah rate you're not sticking around the bar is just getting started a week call today and see how easy they do if we don't these mistakes and we're going to be the if team or could've would've all those things oh rector you too because we talked about the squad early on you know potential Super Bowl contender Evan but I think we will be having a very different conversation in a if and when that happens they obviously cannot lose both games broncos they must win at Lee but I would have surprised me if Emma Rogers and past the rest of the way because the four games they could hold against him but you and others give Tom Brady they weren't you based off of that that doesn't mean Roger Stinks doesn't mean the waiting I say I thought well three and four was more likely four three but I couldn't see too in five but then a funny thing happens in their schedule now I want a dog I'm like everybody else's act like like then he has no potential what I'm saying you go from a position of coach to offensive coordinator to the head coach it's out of the just strength of schedule a lack thereof we all understand that the latter part of their schedule is relatively weak compared to the you know the beginning of the season going to schedule got serious questions about the fact that you've got a second year quarterback and a first year coach it was you that rave about their relationship it was you that raved about Baker Mayfield do I have a right molly ready for this he's a law addict was you now guilty. The browns are now too in five after falling to the Patriots quarterback Roni what's going on aw here we have nerve wheeler let's let's listen I notice steelers of stunk up the joint I could see the day weeks ago you open the season get shut up Freddie Kitchens is the wrong man for this child while we stopped playing the main listen in Freddie kisses watch it listen I don't WanNa be it penalties per game false start offsides timeout me us because dude on Rome Position Close Odell Beckham junior are you talking to me about this a legitimate argument could be made that the Cleveland browns play football and I don't mean literally as a talent yeah well okay I'll be okay no I'll be tired later let's get an Aaron Rodgers and the packers are now seven and one after taking down but you thought there is a shot that they could go to a super bowl I remember that you can downplay that is that is a super bowl playoff win make contended okay thank you for explaining that have you they have to play well obviously but the bronx like if you're if the Broncos and the bills are tough opponents on your schedule you've got a pretty good one then it's the steelers the Dolphin yes what happens is tame penalties thirteen penalties all season seventy you're going up against a team that got forty six hundred year you averaging ten the Laura off the offensive line that stuff takes a minute to Gel plus they had a kind of rough schedule early so I thought that you just had many sadder when I sat up here since cues me they might not see that I said I don't even have one nancy north they might not even make a wildcard spot the team let's say you call games you're doing a great job by the way doing Ed thank you play the game you're not a game I questioned get out I'm going to bet who's going to win. MVP Putting McCaffrey Addison Scott McKenzie I don't recall that F word being the one in the okay I got earning excuse me I said we won't even when they did as we wouldn't they have been rothlisberger that I okay here's the deal you got people in the NFL overweight decades for this opportunity and this do you who who do you have on you know it's okay already you I'm talking to collectively as a unit as a team legitimate argument could be made ball you talk to be going to schedule walk up saying wait a minute to know how to play together as a team don't you know the rules don't you have to know how void like remedial either see that Dan Great Insight Good Times Zohreh tough test the rest of the way the eagles have bears paths seahawks the next three weeks insight learned the turnover in guys play together rookie head coach is they had so much talent I thought it could be an eraser but if you look at it Odell Beckham has basically penalties and turnovers why sit here week eight and I'm talking about this same thing penalties and turnovers so until you proved me that you can fix those things that you get those things rectified. I can't stay on your bandwagon anymore I can't tell you in your talent anymore I look at Oh mint on third down as a head coach once you make your play call in you are starting to have the conversation with your step what's our plan on fourth down what play call wise pretty good head coach wise he was bad I look at one play that encapsulates the whole season its fourth it's a big problem if you can admit when you're wrong I was wrong about the
Al Dukes Isn't Afraid To Mix It Up A Bit (On Twitter)
"Seen some you haven't seen nothing yet your come all the smoke. Smoke map bought Steven. Jack's pass talking about life culture. We put the power in the players hand. I never told anybody this. I just want to get into good conversation. Kerry champion Stephen Way Steph Curry cry. Goodbye on over the air. Radio DOT COM all major podcast platform sees Jerry. Recco is back with US and sounds. He looks better. I think he's finally over his very infectious influenza. Good Morning Jerry. How are you? I'm good morning we're brought to you by the auto group. Hurry in for. Best Selection during the Lexus certified pre-owned Winter Collection Sales Event at Ray Katina Lexus. Lot of the sound from yesterday with the Astros and that Is that a good word. Press Conference Owner Jim craning zest about the Yankees having some things to say along the way listener comments out there You know our opinion is You know the this didn't impact the game We had a good team so a reporter said you really don't think it had any impact on the game. I I didn't say it didn't impact the game. Basically our opinion is You know this didn't impact the game. I didn't say it didn't impact the game. Far Pinon is You know th this didn't impact the game. I didn't say it didn't impact the game. He really sounded like before people were killing him online. It was like immediately as it happened here was Carlos Correa. Probably the best one to speak up. This is an eighteen. Second clip basis comes out and says we screwed up. There's no excuse to that We're wrong For everything we did doesn't seventeen He's always stand for It's not what we want to portray us an organization and We're definitely wrong about all that and we really feel really nice. There's this perception that Carlos Beltran intimidated them into doing these. Things came out strong. Means the nicest guy in the world That is not the case right so so as we ranking or ranking right. 'cause Korea wins the press conference in terms of ranking. He was the best out of all right. But that's what you wanted to hear from. Everybody sure did so. We would hurt it that way from everybody. Maybe there wouldn't have been so much blowback. Yeah I think the fact that Jim Crane kicked it off the way he just set the worst tone for everything. Let's go to Joe and Allen Down Joe. What's happening Joe? You there Gel bag doing okay. Jill. What's up? I'm glad I'm just wondering if you kind of tend to agree with me on this when these astros come in this season into pretty much any stadium now predominantly into Yankee stadium. The booze that are going to rain down on them. We're going to be absolutely at back. What do you think yeah no question? They're going to get a terrible terrible reaction from opposing teams. I think from the beginning but if the Yankees are in the midst of a heavy duty kind of like race to get to the number one spot and all this other stuff and so the Astros that will bank it even that much more intense. Sure I also think this is gonNA help ticket sales. I think when the Astros go into posing parks there's going to be more fans I wanNA show up and scream at him. I don't think that this hurts baseball. One bit no not financially. It doesn't I don't think in any way it helps it helps. I think this was the best thing to happen to baseball in years having to fight the undertaker right. Al also is that you gotTa have a bad guy right. Oh you need a bad guy just like pro wrestling. Yeah and you're like are pro wrestling guy on this show. Yeah doubt in the newsroom. Definitely not the newsroom. I'm worried about here. Okay I'm worried about you and I'm worried about Eddie. I'm worried about Bobby and Jerry and CEELO and my man to my leftover here right. Well AL is become the bad guy amongst the producers because he was killing everybody yesterday on twitter for their twitter accounts and what they tweet out and then they were lobbing shots back at him so. I didn't pick anybody out in particular. Yeah well there were some people working the thought that you were directly talking about them. Yeah give me give me give me a nation name. I'll so AL name I will. Al tweeted out that he has to start on following people because all they do is promote what guest is on. You know when they're on and then what audio that they He missed and all this stuff. It goes like this. Here's the guest that's coming on. Then here's who we have on right now. Then here's who you missed and it's just over. It's multiple accounts of the same guest. 'cause you don't you don't do that that's not your forte. Just don't care on twitter. So He's getting annoyed with that so he tweets that out. And then you got Brian Monzo Ernie Acosta the two producers here Monday through Friday guys. Who Do that a lot. Firing back at out. I love the producer tension here. Wfan so now is the bad guy. There Al is the producer villain and they are mobilizing against him under saying. Don't do it. I don't need every account doing it. That's awesome donut. And they're going to continue to do it and they're going to continue to think that they are promoting their shows. That's what they're suppose it's got a mutant on. Do you ever see something on twitter? And you're like oh my gosh I gotta go. Click on this now. Well you know what I noticed about you on our show is that it's more about you what you're doing as opposed to what we're doing right right. I will agree with that. Yeah so Al Of course now. He has decided to take on the bad guy role Of all the producers also like the way twitter works. You don't always see the tweet in real time like when people tweet during the Games. Great catch the fifteen hours later. A coup great catch. Who What where when? Why how you that talking about like if I if I end up going to bed early and then like Evan is tweeting all night about the nets game then I wake up and the first thing I see is Evan. Roberts going didn't see that coming. I'm like what happened. Did we all like did a meteor hit the earn for free? Tunnel Him during the game right. So let's say you mute Evan Seven. Pm Nets Raptors. That's too much work. Listen I gotta go back because I would be though day when you UN mute him with all those things come back into play. I don't think so. No there's your I mean you know what I love is when Al tweets out. These chips are the best. Okay so important things like that. I'm looking for a bank robbers love where Yankee hats you said the Michael. Vick thirty thirty was really well. Done controversial tweet. You also talked about how you bought a harmonica. Oh Yeah then please see looks easy to play but probably impossible. These are the things that you're tweeting out. My biggest problem is my me I. It's never us our show that I finally made it. I have my own. Wfan Jingle and then you want you put a poll out there which of these milk cream alternatives tastes best and coffee. Why am I so great? I know as a fifty year old man. I am not in the demo but I like it. I liked Lizardo. All right and you read them that way. They don't sound so excited. We get a tide stop now. What does that? What's that relation to you? Just hammering somebody else for putting something out that well that was doing the super bowl so that everyone was every time like a regular Sunday night games that that's the super bowl. That was the super bowl to know what you're thinking during the super important to follow me right then. Gina of course thought that Greg Olson looked like dexter right. He does right. The active all tweets makes his tweets. That much more interesting than everybody else. Yeah that's fair when you read them that way. I think if you gave them a little more right it's really your inflection. That's the problem. It's not your interpretation of them all right Jerry. I don't judge anyone. The only reason I am reading those is because you're complaining about what other people are doing. I'm not complaining right. I'm just reading your stuff in relation to your complaints about the other producers here and now you're creating tension where tension doesn't need to be right. It's been very harmoniously. I understand morale around here. Sucks according to The head pain in the ass so I I don't think so but now you're I think you're adding to that stirring it up he is. I mean it's been great the last couple of months there's always issues at all. There's been a villain void near really has been a total jerk. I'll just verleger cheaters. He spoke yesterday. He says he could have done something. They're understood what was what was happening. I DIDN'T I. I wish I had said more record. Follow with did you say. I'm that's between myself and my teammates. He said nothing absolutely nothing. Now I from all the clips I have found have not found a reporter asking him about anything he said in the past about steroids and cheaters. I haven't seen that I'm looking at That was just invert lander with the Yankees. You've got Aaron Boone. This is how he opened up his press conference yesterday. Sergio era known he said Sup. Yo Yo well. He's feeling good about this season. I don't blame them. Those guys out on that field. Yeah Yeah Man Beats Yo and everybody press conference so he was asked if he is discussing the astros stuff with coal. None of that came up or or has come up now. Cole was asked if he was aware of what was happening. No I wasn't. I wish I could elaborate. But no I wasn't. He says the whole thing stinks. Nobody's getting a win out of this And it doesn't look you know very good and I guess I'm just unfortunate to be able to be here with his new team and moving on in terms of his new teammates. James Paxton met the media. He had back surgery. How's he doing? Pretty good you know. I think I'm eight days out of surgery now moving around pretty well starting to test it out little by little each day It's going to be a process but It's so far the process is going well. He didn't answer the question why he waited for Serge. A lot of people said. Why didn't you do this back? In November he answer that question. I wish I had done in October. You know we just didn't know exactly what was happening But I think that I'd rather have a habit happened now than midseason miss a full three months this season this way. Hopefully I'll only ask a month and I read. He could start throwing mid-march so that's good news for the Yankees for sure. Nba acquiring a big pitcher at the trade or before the trade deadline get the JUMP ON PEOPLE NBA? All Star weekend in Chicago this evening. The Rising Stars game tomorrow the three point shootout. The Duncan says game Sunday night last night. Thunder beat Pelicans. One twenty three one. Eighteen Celtics over the clippers in double overtime. One forty one. Thirty Three Indiana beat number. Twenty One Iowa. Eighty nine seventy seven. The Rangers get a late goal winding the wild and a shootout sensiti stay locked place into the boards. Blocked by canvas laid back the Fox across the pit Aaron Chad believable and that came with the Rangers having pulled their goalie. Alexander. Goehr GAB. Who by the way was named the number two goal lead? The number one goal is Iglesias Turk in Jesse is Henrik conquest but you know. They're they're basically telling I think what they're saying. Is that look? Get Out all we man. We'd we'd like to trade and I do believe I believe my heart that Henrik would waive his no trade clause for the right team. If there's a team that sure on him like the wasps very upset with I would definitely think that Colorado would have interests and they certainly have the room to do it and they would be a team. I think that he could help. There's no question about that. The question is do they want him. And are they willing to pay for Polian? Islander Fan Poli is now under. That's why he would be upset. If you had hank no he'd be upset because he wouldn't play you. Step aside for Hank if you have to know who handles the PUCK. Worse Than Hank Raiders. Have won three in a row. Meantime the Devil's got a nice win. Here's Pablo Sokha passes in front. Put the stick of wood was tied up. Now it's dry matlock. Chico Chico Radio. Yeah on doing that we do. The game between the devils are doing what we know. You're doing that like I wouldn't bother me. You know I would not expect you to solve or one. The final devils beat the redwings. They scored all four of their goals in the third and the predators blanked the islanders. Five two nothing. I think I smoke a little too soon on Jerry Sounding look feeling better. Yeah but you were just hacking and then call into garbage coughing at towards music I did. Yeah and I the garbage Pail by your get this thing out of here now. Believe me yesterday. You guys didn't believe me yesterday when I was talking about how. Yeah Corona virus through the toilet. Lock anybody in a apartment building. They have to go to the bathroom and flush it. Where does it go? And what's in it? And what did I show yesterday? That the corona viruses in the excrement bucket out of here. Now know why Jerry. What's the matter can't be spitting in Mississippi? Hack up a disgusting human being spitting at Garbage Pail. We not well maybe during the show between five forty five and six. No maybe but I haven't seen it at all. I took it out of that That ranger highlights your Barf in up a lot. I mean can you just gotTa be struggling there real quick. But that's like the talent we're good. I'm Greg Festering Fester. That guy's number. Let's ask him if Mucus in garbage pail next to boomer. Steve could infamy. You're coughing underneath little table in fairness is wrong it was jerry. I call this way what I was doing was clearing my throat to get the stuff up. I was not coughing your way I wouldn't do that. I coughed into this spun. Anything that has a discharge to it that I don't want no kidding. The fact remains there's a Lewke in that they're using it is very true sitting there on it or something. It's not a covered garbage pail. It's IT'S A it's an open with a with a loitering lougee and you don't know what happened in the hotel the other day one of that happened so you go to the sing the drained and open another just like sat there cool. Petri dish. It's growing up. You know out of IT AND PEAT MOSS. It was pretty awful. You gotTa look at it. Nothing there I can't look at it. Dude where's your car covered? Well I just covered. It's fine. I have very very strong imagination. So when you say something. I've pictured exactly. Yeah I know exactly what it is. Where's The boomer Pretzel? A Doctor Steve. you heard the question so jerry spit a lougee into the garbage pail next to boomer. It's an open. Garbage pail does not have a cover is boomer going to get infected. He's laughing doctors. We're going to get infected by this open air lougee. He's not eating the garment. He's not he's not eating garbage. It's very close to. I think you'll be a perfectly fine. Go diving garbage camp or anything. That's one thing I will say that it's just horrific to look at. There's nothing there. I covered his made me sick to my stomach. This guy not very sanitary condition right here. Yes go into the bathroom next Andrea. Where do we go as being the bathroom? Doc You know I I told these guys that I don't care you can lock up as many people as you want in a an apartment building over wound Han China but when they go to the bathroom they gotta flush it and it's going to go into the sewer system and then yesterday outcomes story. That is the case that's happening over there so I got problems. I don't think people drinking toilet water and that's the case in the bigger problems on. I'm just saying it's going into the bigger system now right well. It's a little different here than other countries but like every other types you know every country. The water that goes into sewer systems getting filtered and sanitized and cleaned. But you know it's valid point but it's not like you know people are taking toilet water so it shouldn't be that big a deal. Yeah you're right. It does in dozen sector sewer system. Does I got two friends. Work over at the Bergen Point Facility in Suffolk County. That is their job to make sure that the poop stays out of the water. I actually don't got two free back. See those guys do a great job? Well you've met both of them they guys. Yeah you've met both. Yeah the guys that were curious. No no no not those guys. The big boxing fan then And then a big boxing fan him and then Nelson who went to Vegas with me. That's what he said they. They work on poop. Yay and they do a great job. So it's nothing to be married. Yes they both. Well one of them is yes. All right Dr Steve. We appreciate the insight and being on call. Doctor Steve Costs you nine hundred dollars right. He's going to send us an invoice. This I never hired a doctor Steve. No now we usually. We usually have orthopedist on this in. Isn't he sponsored? Dr Rouge that's right. Yes Dr Roger On. I've had a couple of HIP. Replacements is that what's going on with two of the hip hip a Ruse Araj. Iran is to talk the implant. I eat Bro. From the kids. 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