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Mac OS Ken: 10.14.2020

Mac OS Ken

25:44 min | 5 months ago

Mac OS Ken: 10.14.2020

"Is, Mac Os Ken meet pumpad many five G. Hits the IPHONE line and what's not in various boxes. It's Wednesday the Fourteenth Tober twenty twenty. I, Ken Ray and this is news from Mac. Os. Ken brought to you by yours truly and sponsored by simply simplisafe the right way to protect your home. Get a free HD camera when you sign up now at simplisafe dot com slash Mac os Cam. This show is also sponsored by better health online counseling. It's there for you. When the pandemic drove most of US inside earlier this year created a lot of disruption. A lot of people had to learn new ways to do work and do school. Such was not the case for better help. They were already ready to match people with licensed professional counselors in ways both secure and comfortable. You mean through the better help APPS for your computer tablet smartphone. Text audio video. Whatever way is most comfortable for you As for what you work on Well that's up to you. Whether what's bothering you is the Hashtag new normal her stuff you've been carrying around for years. Better help is waiting. Want to try it out. As a listener, you'll get ten percent off your first month by visiting better help dot com slash Moco West Ken. Join over one million people taking charge of their mental health. Again that is better help H. E. L. P.. BETTER HELP DOT COM SLASH MAC west Ken. One more time. It's better help dot com slash Mecca. West Ken. And a big thanks to better help for sponsoring today's show. Few huge surprises at apple's high speed event though. There were some unexpected bits. Did. Anybody. See The verizon thing coming? Did we have any idea what? MAG SAFE WAS GONNA turn out to be. There we'll get to those. Most of today's presentation is drawn from a couple of viewings of the Apple Park presentation. We'll also pull from the usual suspects doing their usual bang-up jobs. Tuesday's high-speed event presentation started with Apple CEO Tim Cook welcoming viewers back to Apple Park than throwing the presentation almost immediately to others to give the INS and outs of home pod. Many. Bob Board richer's apple VP worldwide product marketing listed the company's desires for home pod. Wanting. The device to have amazing sound to act as an intelligent assistant to serve as a smart home hub all while protecting the privacy and security of the user. This, they say they do in a smaller spherical unit that costs less than one third of the original home pods original asking price. On the amazing sound side company bragged on the devices ro properties as well as how well it plays with others. Others being other apple devices. Users can apparently sink home pod many's either a stereo pairs or to play the same audio throughout the home. The. Inclusion of apples you one processor makes handoff easier to handle according to the company. For what it'll play. Well, there's the usual stuff apple music, apple podcasts, iheartradio radio DOT COM tuned in with Pandora and Amazon music on the way in the coming months. As for the smart part Home Pod, many will handle or interact with messages. Calendar phone calls maps music because. The. Weather reminders and find my feature. There was also an interesting demo where users ask for personal updates and got them. personalized. So he you know multiple voice recognition is key. Now. One new feature mentioned and de Mode was intercom. This is basically what it sounds like. You tell home pod to deliver a message to everybody and the various apple devices in the house including other home pods, iphones, apple watches air pods, and even carplay units play or display the message. I have heard entercom will work with the original home pods as well though not seeing that confirmed. Addressing. It's smart home hub nece home pod many integrates with apple's home APP that lets control home connected accessories said scenes and stuff like that. Covering User Privacy Apple, says no word spoken to Home Pod, leave your home until you touch home pod many or say he. S I are. So, yes, it is always listening but what it here's goes nowhere until you give it the command. Request. A home pot or not associated with apple ID. You choose whether recordings are saved by apple personal requests only work when the associated iphone is home with you. And communications with smart home accessories used strong encryption according to the company. Now I, said earlier that the unit is spiritual. If you've seen a home pod, there is no mistaking what this thing is. Same sort of light up display on the top same mesh wrapping it's roundedness and the same white and space grey options as the original home pod. Coming soon to flat surface near you. Orders for home pod many began on the sixth of November unit, start, shipping the week of the sixteenth of November. Not Price, to beat an echo but not a device that will break the bank. Home Pod many will sell. For, Ninety, nine bucks. Okay. I pretend to hear you say but I'm worried about breaking my home pause many. Not sure why but better to be safe in your case. To that end apple care plus we'll be available for home pod. Many. A piece from macrumors says, that will run buyers fifteen bucks. When Tim Cook was back on camera, he took a moment to Brag on iphones past noting the iphone eleven has been the number one smartphone in the world since its launch and that I phone has led the industry in customer satisfaction every year since it's Get ready to hate all of them as the iphone twelve line makes the scene bringing with it five G. Connectivity. Which one? All of them. Had Been Rumored Apple announced four iphone phone twelve models and has had also been rumored. Each can support five G.. Cook says, five G. Brings A new level of performance for downloads UPLOADS, higher quality video streaming, more responsive gaming, real time interactivity, and more. The CEO says five Jia superfast, which he actually pitched as a security feature speeds are so good. He says you'll be less tempted to sign on the public WIFI limiting exposure to the dangers that lurk there. Every decade brings new technology that provides a step change in what we can do with iphone said Cook. Today. A new era begins for iphone. Today we're bringing by G. to phone. Then began the verizon commercial. Hans Fest Berg Chairman and CEO. Verizon took to the stage talk about big reds five G. offering. Verizon's by ultra wideband with large quantities of millimeter wave access will be live and sixty cities across the US by the end of this year. In ideal conditions, Best Burg says the carriers seen four gigabits down and two hundred megabits up. The four gigabits is kind of funny own Antonio Guy says an ideal conditions. Well it doesn't sound like you're getting four GIGA beds but we'll get, him. The other thing best Burger announced was flipping the switch on Verizon's extensive five gene nationwide network. That apparently went live yesterday. Boy would I like to know the terms of the deal worked out between, that bill and Verizon? Emphasis on particular carrier. I did not see coming. Now I said iphone twelve comes in four models here the rumor mill rang true. The phones are iphone twelve iphone twelve many iphone twelve pro and iphone twelve pro, Max. Starting with iphone twelve, remember the squared off edges of iphone Four. The new design returns us to that. Squared edges that meet flush with the devices front and back glass the front classes something special though. Working with corning delay, this display is protected by what apple. Calls Ceramic. Shield. It is said by the company to be tougher than any other smartphone class with four times better dropped performance than iphone eleven. The display it's protecting is apple custom Ole ed providing truer blacks, better contrast and two times the pixels iphone eleven or four, hundred, sixty pixels per inch. While that displays the same six point one inches iphone eleven, apple shrank the surrounding enough to make iphone. Eleven percent than her fifteen percent smaller and sixteen percent lighter than iphone. Eleven Choice of colors is not huge but they are pretty. With options and black. White Product Red Green. And blue that. Does things for me. I shouldn't talk about in mixed company. The candy coating is nice. Let's talk about. It's Chewy. Chocolate center starting with the phones five Genus Apple says, iphone twelve has the most five G. bands of any smartphone for better performance in more places. Additionally the company's silicon, the software approach. Let's apple make the best use of available five G. including choosing to not use five. G.. It sounds like iphone defaults to lt e tapping into five G. when it's both necessary and available. That is great for power consumption according to the company. Apples tested the new phones on over one hundred carriers and over thirty regions. In ideal conditions iphone twelve gets up to three point five gigabits on. which is what makes the Brian Bragging about four gigabytes down kind of funny yesterday. It does support millimeter wave those so. got that going for it. As, for the phones on workings iphone twelve powered by apple's a fourteen bionic, the first phone powered by the five nanometer processor technology packing eleven point eight billion transistors roughly forty percent more than eight thirteen. A six core CPU that's up to fifty percent faster than last year's phone and a four core GPU graphics that are up to fifty percent faster than last year's model. Machine learning also gets a boost iphone, twelve packs of sixteen coordinator and Gen that's up to eighty percent faster than iphone eleven capable of eleven, trillion operations per second. Company bragged on Games claiming console quality for the phone. To Demonstrate and executive from riot games showed off League of legends wild rift a mobile, only game due out later this year. Well phone twelve is not the phone photographers would choose. There's plenty of improvement and it's cameras. Apple says the phone has a twelve megapixel ultra wide camera and twelve megapixel wide camera. It said the sport, the fastest aperture yet it also features a seven element lens that apple says offers twenty-seven percent improvement in low light performance. Mag Save is an internal thing. Rather than a name for a connector is in days of old MAG. Safe today is a collection of magnets and charging elements that help line up the phone for proper charging. When it's not charging those magnets go to work holding on cases and wallets and third party stuff. Apple expects a thriving ecosystem of third party doodads take advantage of the newly introduced MAG. Safe. Ness. Mag Safety. Safe thing. Anyway. It's a thing built into iphone twelve. Every model in the line. Now's probably phone twelve many. Except for the size, you can take everything I've said so far about iphone twelve and play it back. iphone twelve many has the same specs as iphone twelve though in a slightly smaller size. The company says the mini is smaller and lighter than four point seven inch models like iphone eight but with a bigger five point four inch display. Apple says, this one is the smallest thinnest and lightest five G. phone. In the world. Talking about last night with Frederik, Van Johnson, and a few other folks on Chuck joiners Mac. Voices. We came to the conclusion that the pro phones for two groups, people who wanna spend as much money as they can afford. Or people who really care about the camera. There's nothing wrong with the camera functionality and the iphone twelve or iphone twelve many. Unless you count they're not being as high end as the camera on the high end. No I'm not a high end photo guy. So there was a lot set around iphone twelve pro, an iphone twelve pro Max that escapes me. The camera on iphone twelve pro boxes said by apple to have a sixty five millimeter focal length from fifty two millimeter focal length and last year's counterpart. It's got five times optical zoom range and the set to support an eighty seven percent improvement in low light versus last year's top of the pro line. I do know enough to be impressed by one thing. The pro line can shoot an apple pro raw. or it will be able to with a software update. Later, this year photographers will also be able to edit those images. Directly, in the photos APP. The pros can also handle. HD are video recording catching seven hundred million colors. Sixty Times, the number they could capture before. Apple, said they also sport the first smartphone camera that'll record in dolby vision hd are. And just like the apple pro raw functionality users will be able to edit the dobie vision HDR video in the photos APP. Finally the light are rumors were finely true the twelve pro and twelve pro Mac speech or a world facing light detection and ranging scanner. That let folks scan and modeled their surroundings. Apples Demos showed that put to use for placing objects in an augmented reality environment performing improved autofocus and low light and improving camera that perception in low light for night moat. Working our way out of these phones, Greg, Joswiak, apple's newly minted senior. VP Worldwide Marketing talked about a few of the pro lines features. It's got mad safe. It's got ceramic shield. It's got a Super Ratna FDR display. As for sizes iphone twelve pro gets bumped from five point eight inch display display size of six point one inches the pro Max meanwhile goes six point five inch display to a display size of six point seven. All of it is bound by the same squared off edges as iphone twelve, the with a couple of distinctions. I. The outer band is stainless steel on the pro line and second the colors are a bit more refined. Coming in silver graphite a gold that looks seriously golden. And the Pacific. Blue that doesn't do as much for me as the blue on the IPHONE twelve. Not that I'd turn it down. If cost is your primary concern. Here is what you're looking at across the whole line of iphones. iphone se. Start Three, hundred, ninety, nine dollars iphone ten are starts at four ninety, nine iphone eleven starts at five, ninety, nine iphone many starts at hundred ninety, nine dollars iphone twelve starts at seven ninety, nine, iphone twelve pro starts at nine, ninety nine. An iphone Pro Max starts at one, thousand, ninety, nine dollars. For the new phones though those prices are only Kinda SORTA true. Peace, from the Mac Observer says iphone twelve many an iphone twelve do start at six, ninety, nine and seven, ninety nine if you buy them as a t and T or verizon phones if you buy one is either a sprint or t mobile phone or as an unlocked phone. The starting prices are seven, twenty, nine, and eight, twenty nine. With no indication as to why. While it's great that ceramic shield means less of a chance of broken display. The chance is still there. If that bugs, you apple care pluses there for all of them. macrumors says, two years of coverage will run one, hundred, forty, nine dollars for iphone and twelve mini. Adding loss or theft protection will up that price to to nineteen buyers can get ongoing coverage for seven, ninety, nine per month or eleven dollars and forty nine cents with loss and theft added. As for the higher end phones, the pizzas, two years of Apple Care Plus will cost one, nine, thousand, nine or nine dollars ninety nine cents per month. Theft. And loss coverage bumps that price to two, hundred, sixty, nine dollars or thirteen dollars and forty nine cents per month. Ongoing. As for availability, apple is starting in the middle. And working out. Would owners can order iphone twelve and iphone twelve pro this Friday the sixteenth. October. They'll be delivered the following Friday the twenty third. If you're targeting either end of the range. iphone twelve, many an iphone twelve pro Max will go up for order on the sixth of November. Delivery should hit the following Friday the thirteenth of November. Barring incident which I have to say because. Friday the thirteenth. Coming up, we will talk about something that is not in the various iphone boxes. Some things that is, but I a word from simplisafe the right way to protect your home. One of the things that makes simply safe the right way. Is the control that it gives you. You choose the setup that's right for you and you install it yourself. For me placing the sensors and key pad. Couldn't have been simpler just peel and stick the centers exactly where you need them. No technician required. At the other end professional monitoring keeps watch day and night ready the sun police fire or medical help if there's an emergency. Of course homes come in all shapes and sizes the perfect system for me may not be the perfect system for you. Again, you take control picking from one of their ready made packages or building the package. That's right for you. With monitoring starting at fifteen bucks a month. All. That plus free shipping free returns. And even a sixty day money back guarantee. Head to simplisafe dot com slash Moco West Ken and get a free hd camera four Mac os Ken listeners. That's S. I m. p. l. i.. SIMPLISAFE DOT. com slash. Mac Os Ken to make sure they know you heard about it here? SIMPLY SAFE DOT com slash Monaco West can. And a big thanks to simply safe for sponsoring today's show. We'll wrap the day with what you don't get with the newly announced bones no ear pods and no charging adapter. A lot of people like the part in the presentation when they introduced iphone twelve many. They did a of James Bond thing opening a steel briefcase to reveal a smaller steel briefcase opening that one to reveal yet another smaller steel briefcase before finally revealing the relatively small phone. For me though the best part was when Lisa Jackson apples. Environment Policy and social initiatives said no air pods and no power adapter. I didn't like it because she was saying no. I liked it because she was saying it standing on the roof of Apple Park. By herself. I WanNa, do that. Anyway. She's spun the lack of accessories a green thing. First of all giving people stop, they may not need eliminates waste. According to Jackson and also let's apple reduce the size of the boxes used to ship the phones. Thing can get more of those boxes on a pallet meaning fewer pallets needed for shipping meaning viewership men's meaning a serious reduction in carbon emissions according to Jackson. Says the whole of the reduction cuts over two million metric tons of carbon emissions a year the equivalent of taking four hundred, fifty, thousand cars off the road annually. Of that makes you mad. There is still a cord for which you may have no use in the box. Each new phone will ship with a USB. Cable Great. If you've got a relatively recent MAC laptop. If you need one of the old peripherals though other no longer included getting one is not as expensive as it was last week. Apple insider says, apple has not ten dollars off the price of ear pods bring them from twenty nine to nineteen bucks. Additionally the says a new twenty-one, USB sea wall charger, which stands already replacement for the eighteen watt charger that came with the iphone eleven. Models receives the same price reduction to sell for nineteen bucks. Wanted to see the Whiz Bang for yourself the James Bond Mini intro Lisa Jackson up on the roof. The whole event is available to watch. Now, you can catch it on youtube you can catch on apple's events page, and of course, it is available as video podcast as well. Coming up in a few minutes. I forgot to call anybody to be on the show with me today. So it's just me. RUMINATING ON TUESDAYS EVENT I'll tell you about a thing that I've been doing to. Give it a listen in a few minutes wherever you get podcasts or on my youtube channel. Youtube Dot. com? Slash Ken Ray. Mac Os can. Brought to you by me. and. Sponsored by better help get ten percent off your first month at better health dot com slash Mac os can. 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Hour 3: Mike Griffith

The Paul Finebaum Show

37:50 min | 5 months ago

Hour 3: Mike Griffith

"Dead More time to listen to yours, truly by going to shell and getting three things done at once I. Fill up with Shell v power plus then save up with the fuel rewards program finally, snack up to save even more at the pump make the most of the stop you need to make with Shell. Pride. Passion and pageantry of college football. Leaves here. Paul Finebaum show our we podcast. Back. The second half of the program is live and we are talking to my preferred here. In a couple of minutes, we already had colle- Franks on. We'll talk about we'll muschamp's future. In Columbia and Lane Kiffin. We'll talk about his future and past later in the program let's get back to the calls and check in with Gregg who is in Alabama. Hey. How you doing today all we are really doing. Well, thank you. You know I really need you on Saturday there You're you're definitely your insights to make a difference. Thank you very much Miss doing the show but I appreciate you you mentioned that. Maybe, you could do a guest appearance on the SEC shores there. That would be that's about mashpee these days. What you know with your spouse being in the medical field? What What do y'all think about these quarterbacks watched quite a few of them. They'll lick their fingers prior to taking a snap. I will try not to be a I would not do that. Yeah I've seen that a few times I. It is fairly cringe worthy to watch but hopefully. They've either had it or. Or not going to get it but that's that would be that would be high on the list of things not to do. Definitely. So with Georgia? Assaulting Auburn every which way this we past weekend. Do. You think that Kevin and Chen Moore's is gonna be able to pull through for Arkansas I do I i. Think Auburn is corner bounce back and certainly they should. in you know nothing against Arkansas, but you compare these rosters or not it's not exactly a fair five. What thanks appreciate you say say thank you really great to hear from you Let's continue. Larry is in Virginia Hey Larry you're on the air go right ahead. Hi Paul thanks for taking my call. Thank you just by way of background I'm a converted southern or From Chicago Illinois. my family and I left in nineteen seventy five to go to a small town in Alabama that nobody ever heard of before called Dimopoulos but anyway I'm by the way, I. I've been there. Oh. Okay Great. Anyway, I. I became an Auburn Fan and because we were drafted by some family down there from from the southern. So anyway, the question I have though is why Would you bring Chad Moore's to Auburn with a record he had in Arkansas I. I just don't understand that. Attempt to explain And I don't WanNa pile on. But I'm speaking the truth he was a disaster at Arkansas as a head coach. But if you go back. He is a very good offensive minded coach. Gus. Malzahn. Is Close friends with him, which may may set up the first flare. Should you hire your friends? But he he wanted someone to come in. And try to open up Auburn's offense. Gus Malzahn is a very run oriented coach and it has worked for him. Within reason. throughout his career. So it surprised a lot of people not that he brought him in as a consultant or somebody to bounce ideas off surprised people that he came in and let. Chad Marx called the place because mouths on his tried that before and there's always relented. On that theory. So I would say in fairness tomorrow's. Yes, he was four and eighteen at Auburn Arkansas, but you can't use that against him. He was just a lousy head coach and it doesn't mean he's a bad coordinator. Okay Well, see your point in I appreciate you love your show by the way I think it's great and you do a great job but I'll keep watching and I'll try keep calling. I don't know if I'll still be defending Malzahn here in a couple of days but. That is the explanation. Appreciate it. Let's talk to. Sally. Who is in Tennessee Hello Sally? How you doing there. Just, a couple of things I. Love Football I enjoy Tennessee football, and we're on our way back. But the main thing I guess I'm calling about day is poor mealy. I hadn't heard from her for a long time what's going on? No. For those who millions millions a woman in her seventies. who calls the show or has scrawled the show from Missouri and Not a sports fan but just became friends with a lot of people on the program she she called in about. Six or eight weeks ago but we have not heard from her since So I, hope she's OK. Also allows one about. I listen a lot. My husband does, and so I'm right here listen to and we enjoy you we we look forward to it every day and. Just won't tell you that we really enjoy. It will thank you. Thank you very much and we will talk to you soon and hopefully milly we'll call It really doesn't call. Then we're going to get cat daddy to give her a call. Maybe maybe get her some moonshine to get her back on on track daddy what's up? Hello. Everybody you're looking live at fans Ville College Football Utopia. With a rivers flow with ice cold Dr Pepper. Where every day is Saturday in everyone's fan even babies. And the season's never changed because the only season is college football season get a taste defense bill this fall during college football game near you Dr Peppers the official drake of fans. Ville grab some today. The week marks the sixth annual KPMG Women's PGA. Championship at Iran. Golf club October. Eighth through eleventh in Newtown Square Pennsylvania as the first ever partnership between the LPGA tour the PGA of America and KPMG KPMG Women's PGA. Championship brings together the best LPGA players from around the world to compete for one of the most coveted major championships in golf competing on championship caliber courses. The Kpmg Women's Pga Championship has elevated the women's game to new heights and. Plus the LPGA players in the national spotlight and the KPMG Women's Leadership Summit L. The week of the championship invest in rising women's leaders aspiring to reach the C. Suite by providing thoughtful content tools and networking opportunities together, they service catalysts to empower women both on and off the golf course. KPMG continuing its commitment to the next generation of women, leaders, and proud sponsor of the Kpmg Women's PGA Championship to learn more visit kpmg. DOT, com slash, wins leadership. I got CAYDEN. Okay. y'All my chat Mars. A lot of folks have forgotten. He was up there with Davos Weenie. Click. On the Net Book Couple Years Carolina Folks Clinton was sad to see him league. Yeah, he he was there at a very important time. For. Clemson. As that program was ascending and he recruited recruited to Shawn Watson. He did and he was doing a good job up there. That's what I got to offer the head coaching job. So he I don't know how you did work overhead. I. Mean he was a he was a good coach at Smu but I, just think people a lot of people have failed at Arkansas. and. It didn't work and he he was trying to sell Arkansas people sizzle and and they wanted to stake. Where remember Abraham Lincoln Firms, twelve cases it became. So. Sad. And I say, and you're right and Lincoln remains I guess Might be the best president we've ever had and that could change. You're going to be talking to. Curry. Out. Charleston. Mr Months County right yeah. Jeans back Get his name right eventually spectacles A. You do you say what? Do you know Jean. You do you'll clean it up. Oh. No, I don't know about. That's a hard a hard name say after a couple of glasses of wine cat daddy. I hear that. I don't know him personally but I always a good. Georiga, his he really is I'm a big Fan. Yeah. I'm a big. I just got. It's five o'clock I just to have a sip of something here can't Daddy. It'd be said anyway, we'll be out get inside on what's happening but much capless every day around here people talking negative negative negative about it. Well. That's why we to ask gene. Hey, thanks for the call. Appreciate it. We are going to take a break. You know you never know how things go but this become one of the most watched and listened to segments of the week because you never know what our next guest is going to say. To say, he's all over the map would. Be a disservice to maps. Mike Griffith is next. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. Our next guest. Hard to find a better guest and Mike. Griffith who's become an appointment viewing here every Thursday afternoon and Mica before we get going here I need to talk to you about last week. And we don't often do this, but we are going to ask you. to apologize to the audience because you were wrong, you promise that. Georgia would win by ten to fourteen points and we all know they won by twenty one. Yeah I was I was off on that I expected more from that Auburn offense I mean Kevin Steele's making two point five, million dollars. I didn't see a two point five, Million Dollar Defensive Game Plan didn't expect Georgia to be up twenty, four, three, a have whatever it was. That was an ugly football game Auburn. It's not who we thought we were who we thought they were Paul. I'll have to give you credit because. You were talking about the past and. I said, well, what does that have to do with the future and it had everything to do with the future in that game? So credit goes to you and we appreciate you being with us. So let's flip the switch and the page to this weekend and give us the the week leading up. What's it been like leading up to Tennessee on Saturday Sunday a pretty big game. Yeah it is a big game. You Know Kirby Smart? Obviously, Jeremy Pruitt not a lot of love loss after this whole cade maze off season toxic environment week, right? That's what they accused Georgia of having when they were trying to get cade as eligible lot of war words going on over the summer from Tennessee gotta give Jeremy Pruitt the fan base, the attorney they hired Congressman Birgit they put a lot of pressure on the SEC to get this emergency voting get these kids all a blanket waiver within the conference. So I think that's just the start of it. Though you know the last two games, I I know what the final scores said. But Jeremy PRUITT has put a competitive game plan on the field I mean last year it's a fourteen to thirteen game with two minutes left in the second quarter. The year before Tennessee was the only team that Jake from didn't throw a touchdown pass against. So with Jim Chaney and Jeremy Pruitt I think these guys that they can give you the XS and the Os and now we're gonNA find out if they've got the talent to match up with Georgia in Sanford Stadium Saturday afternoon. And let me go to Tennessee side for a minute my because most of our viewers and listeners know you cover that program for a number of years and not that you're there now but you certainly keep up with it Let's talk about what you've seen from Jeremy PRUITT now in his third year. Yeah. I. Think the staff gotten better. You know he's only got two guys left on his original staff three when he got hired now there's been a lot of turnover there I think Phillip Fulmer helped getting some former involved back like Jay Graham t Martin I think these guys have helped elevate the offensive staff I like the Derek Ansley higher. This is a Guy Jeremy Coach with at Alabama one Bama won their last national championship of years ago. So I think. The staff is improved I also think the culture has changed. This is a very physical football team and you look at the starters and still two thirds of guys that were recruited by Butch Jones but but that offensive line is so much more physical now and I, think the defense plays with the different attitudes certainly a different attitude than the previous staff. So I think the culture has changed and Jeremy's done a really good job coaching with some guys that he inherited. Talking to my griffith. So Mike. Everyone's looking for ways for Tennessee to win this game It seems like it's it. They'll. They'll need help what about the weather I've read some things at the weather is not going to be good Realize you're not a meteorologist, but you probably can keep up with it. Well. It's funny. That is the first question lobby blast when they tendency have a chance because inclement weather is obviously an equaliser that would indeed help Tennessee out if there was inclement weather I mean if Tennessee can get into a big push match shoving match a rock fight as they call it that would favor Tennessee I believe you know I think the key for Tennessee though scoring early you know I look these stats up. Kirby smarts eight and seven when the opponent scores I and seven and eight. When he trails at halftime, you know the key is, how do you get ahead because this Georgia defense? Paul twenty-five opponent series only one has ended in a touchdown. They've done a really nice job keeping teams out of the end zone we talked about that last week I think. Tennessee is going to be challenged. The differences is Tennessee has a much better offensive line. They also haven't experienced quarterback jared Gannon time I mean this this guy's a senior, and if you look at the number of combined starts something like one hundred, eighty something this is going to be a very experienced and poise Tennessee offense that Jim, Chaney has to work with. It's such an interesting. Part on the. Spot on the schedule Mike and you alluded to it the other day. But we all know Alabama's next week Auburn was last week nobody's acute. Nobody's concerned about this being a trap game there may be games later on but. It is still early though do you think at this juncture schedule matters very much? No the the first two weeks of the season I can't draw too many conclusions. I mean we don't know who Arkansas is, and as I said, Auburn was nothing close to a top ten team I mean you could be looking at a coaching change there by the end of the year who knows if things keep going bad for the Tigers there at Auburn I, I don't think it's a trap game because the Georgia Tennessee, robbery stands on its own there's bad blood. There's a lot of animosity you go back and look at the history this robbery it's been bloodletting. Unfortunately there's been some very serious injuries in this game and and the teams don't hold back. I can guarantee you Jeremy, Pruitt is not hold back. He is going to press that George offense. He is going to try to get to that former walk on junior college quarterback and get in his head. Maybe they kind of own one you remember last year stokes came in there and absolutely blitz that tendency freshman Brian Miler I mean that was late in the game Tennessee was still rolling. Some Kirby was still blitzen i. mean there's a Cold Air Jeremy broke it. So Kirby brought the corner blitz again no love loss. I expect a very physical game with a lot of big plays on both sides. It's just a matter whose band is going to be planned. I WanNa to talk about that. No love lost because Jeremy PRUITT had A. Fairly, colorful and controversial tenure when he was at you but you mentioned cade maze and and that is not a story that Going away anytime soon, for someone who covered it Is there a way to Chisel, that down and make it simple to the viewer who maybe wasn't as deeply in the weeds as Georgia and Tennessee fans? It starts with K being longtime Tennessee commit and then Butch Jones goes down the tubes. So he commits and then he goes on a visit and his dad gets his pinky cut off in a folding chair and yes, I just said his dad got his finger cut off in a folding chair but cade went ahead and signed with Georgia anyway plays two years sixteen, seventeen plays all these. Different positions freshman. All American and decides he wants to go home and they claimed there was a toxic environment it was it was just most curious thing That's kind of where we add there's a lawsuit right now pending against University of Georgia three, million dollar lawsuit I don't know about you Paul often asked myself what I cut off half of my pinky for three point one, million dollars. I'm not sure what they could get my kid back home to Knoxville to play with his brothers that were three million dollars I. I don't know the Pinky lawsuit is part of this ludicrous. This thing God. I don't know why it's George's Fault I. Mean You saw that that my that that the gift out there that the Georgia the Tennessee Fan San, we got cade maids, and then the cat saying we got folding chairs. So I mean that thing just took on. A life of its own But but seriously, between the lines, you wonder how is came as going to do against his former teammates and how jacked up with that Georgia front seven beat because all they've heard about is how great this Tennessee offensive line is, and there are. There's there's three five star guys on this line. I mean Jim Chaney has really put together a big physical unit and they've got the leading rusher in the SEC in the backfield and tie Chandler to. Before you go mike. You've covered this league. So well, and and a couple of different places obviously in Alabama many years ago and in Tennessee and Georgia I would like thought. So you mentioned the Auburn situation. And someone who covered Auburn and Alabama back years ago. What what what do you make at? The rumblings about Gus Malzahn especially after having seen that program last week. Yeah. The only reason he's still there is these beaten Alabama to out of the last three years in Alabama and one one of the last couple of titles. Maybe it's a tough job. You know that you you were the writer there at the Birmingham Post Herald and then in mobile you know what a tough job it is to be Auburn your your number to the shadow of the Crimson tide you know ivory tower it's all over you and you're all burning gotta be the team that that tries harder that finds and they have been. Game I give the Auburn Fan base in the Auburn, program. So much credit I did not like it when Gus Malzahn hired Chad to be offensive coordinator. I think gus is himself a great play caller in an offensive line I think about Steve Spurrier and he never handed over those play calling duties I. Don't know why Gusts did that if he did it as an installation blanket I, think maybe he needs to take that back before the end of the they better get it turned around. That's all I got to say because the folks at Auburn. They WANNA win championships in. Alabama's not going anywhere and that Auburn team that I saw last Saturday they didn't have any fight in them. It was sad because they've got a great quarterback at great receivers. I thought they got a great running back as well better I I like they're running back better than Samir Wider Zamir White Guy that's been plotting along one hundred ten carries still doesn't have a thirty yard carry for Georgia Auburn had better turn it around quickly or I think this is going to be it professionals on the season. And So we get a lot of calls here about will muschamp you've covered will to. What I realized, you haven't seen them yet maybe on TV but what is your assessment of them? Yeah I like this guy he's got a lot of charisma at South Carolina's put cities around on your they want to compete. They've got Clemson in state I know he's got a really gifted quarterback committed I. think that helps but I look at the South Carolina scheduling. It's scary. I thought that Tennessee game was a really big one for will must champ he's another guy you know you hate to talk about the drums beating and programs not having patients would coaches but you know you look at the salaries and what these guys are making and it's going to be tough. You know obviously a game. That South Carolina has to win this weekend but but that Auburn game could we'd be looking at a South Carolina Auburn game a hot seat game their taxes saying right fans at Texas am aren't real happy. They spent over seventy million dollars for a coach at the top five team in a while at old miss all the sudden lane kiffin his put some teeth into that program. You would hope they beat Missouri and then those last two games to close I mean that this is a really difficult scheduled for Scalp Carolina and if they can finish five hundred in the SEC, I would be surprised. Yeah well, they're already in deep trouble and you mentioned Jimbo Fisher because that's that's the other call we get and I realized they've only lost to Alabama. Yes. By twenty points that's not unusual but they have a huge game this week against your friends, the gators and the gators favored on the road at at. Kyle. Field. In Saint M.'s another one of those schools with one of those two, million dollar defensive coordinators I mean if you're going to pay that kind of money, I mean listen I don't like to see coaches get fired there real people with real families. But when you command those salaries, those schools aren't paying those salaries for you to finish with eight wins or seven wins or nine wins. They expect championships, Paul that's what makes the SEC. So special everybody believe every maybe everybody but vanderbilt and they don't care all you gotta do is look at. Their stadium tell that but everybody expects to compete in the SEC CNN. We know that simple math tells us that can't happen in especially this year when it's conference games only you don't have those by games against those poor one AA teams or the law where you can kind of Padua record a little bit all this whole medicine and four. Well, you know four wins came against nobody right? Those winds aren't there and I think that's GONNA turn the pressure cooker up especially now that you see these schools with these budget constraints, right? COVID. Nineteen. In the pocket book you look around and see those empty stadiums. It doesn't just it's not just an eyesore that's money coming out of the pocket of that program they count on that gate in those ticket donors to fill that stadium and all the sudden. Now you're down forty, fifty million dollars and you're looking at a coach with the contractors, make it six or seven million. Probably guaranteed Jimmy sexton dozens homework. But I, think this this could really change things I these coaching contracts especially, the coordinators, these two million dollars coordinators, not sure how much more we're going to see that. But I do think it raises the temperature in the room for a lot of these coaches with big salaries. Very a very interesting point before you go give us. Give us a preview. Saturday is a close game or is this one? The Georgia puts away early? Yeah I. Don't think they put it away early like I said last year it's a fourteen thirteen game with two minutes left in the second quarter. Jim Chaney is is a great offensive coordinators at one point five, million, dollar guy one of the higher paid guys. He earns his checks Jeremy's got a great offensive line and Jeremy can scheme on defense they're going to test sets and Bennett Out I think this is. A game that Tennessee keep close for a while I expect Georgia to win, but I don't expect them to pull away until late I'm GonNa Take Georgia in this game. Paul thirty, one to thirteen. But that's with a second-half surge. I think Tennessee is going to battle and I think they're gonNa make things really tough on Georgia Make Kirby smart make some tough decisions maybe even see a guy named Kenny Macintosh in the Backfield Thirty one thirteen griff gave the salary of literally everybody. Under the sun other than Marquee Biak Dave Abrams and me. Thank goodness. Griff thank you very much and we will see you next week. Breezy. Hit a ball. And and and and the three of us together would add up to the. The waterboy on the Georgia team anyway quick break more calm or your phone calls at eight, five, five, two, four, two, seven to a five lane kiffin an hour from now we hope you'll stick around. Listening to the Paul Finebaum Show podcast and the Paul. WHO's up next in Arkansas Hi Paul. Yes I just wanted to comment on On, The coach you know the coordinator at Auburn He. was at Arkansas. He's recruited really well Nine some the players are that recruited aren't still allow Arkansas but there's some that still are at Arkansas. I mean he may not be a good head coach that as far as a recruiter he was you know is pretty decent guy because we got some, you know four stars and whenever he was here so. You know I don't know why everybody's beaten up on the guy I mean his his last his last recruiting class at Arkansas was the best had a while I think. Yeah and I think you're right if he does state at. SMU. I think he would add a better record as far as being a coach He just I think he got in over his head when he came up here, Anti. All the problem of guys. I. mean he he was a salesman and when you try to sell people something and don't deliver and then you doubled down on it, you come off looking disingenuous which he did John is up next also in Arkansas Hello John. first time caller here I really enjoy your show. Thank you for taking my call. I i. also, I just wanted to comment real quickly on the on the Auburn chat more things well, I. Personally, I don't really think that it's personal against Chad Morris. That could just be me I'm just glad to have him gone I agree with what you said to a previous caller. I will say there's always been. A little bit of discontents with Gus. Malzahn. Simply. Because I remember watching him through Springdale High, go to offensive coordinator at Arkansas and we all kind of hope that eventually he'd be head coach one day and. Then he went to Auburn and we thought well, maybe he'd come back and then he kinda just use it to get more money is what I felt like to me. So I've always had a little bit of discontent there but that was really my only comment. John I've always thought that was a mistake by Malzahn and. because. I think there's a ceiling at Auburn and and even I think he's done at credible job. It just seemed like maybe that was the time to go back home where even though there were some conflict ing feelings. But I mean, he really blew that bridge up the last time around. I did that one question for you Paul. I know every time everybody is asking about the upcoming game. This weekend, it seems to be kind of dismissed Auburn. You Know Auburn's going to allow the win and I. Totally understand why most that he has no respect for us and honestly I didn't think we win a game this season but. The and has right now with very ODEM coming in and we've got the number seven. Red Zone defense in the nation number two. In DC number eighteen and third down conversion percentage number seventeen turnovers name and number twenty in rush defense i. feel like it's going to be a little bit closer. What do you think? Yeah I do too and this has been fascinating couple of days talking Arkansas fans and the Arkansas fans have always been there I've always believed that they were one of the most passionate and great fan bases in America and I'm just glad they have something positive to talk about because They deserve it great fans tyler. Is in Little Rock Tyler Hey Paul what's going on? We're doing well, thank you mad. I hate to beat a dead horse here but Talk, about more a little bit. I just want to add a little bit of content to it. Why maybe? Kind of some fans have you know some? Some. Disgruntled Feeling, towards them. just Kinda. The way he treated the players and not necessarily the player she recruited, but the players that were there when he got there. You know. That's that's a part of your team too and when you're taking over a program, you've got to have those guys buy in and there's kind of a couple examples even like in his opening speech to the teams. One of the things he said was I'm here because you and I kinda initially took that as I'm here for you which seems to be the way Pittman is but really I think looking back on it what he meant was I'm here because you have not performed. Tyler you've just identified a very difficult thing I've I've talked coaches who've come into programs who have told me I would have liked to have gotten rid of eighty percent of the players, but you can't do that because you end up losing. Your momentum but you never insult the people that I mean, it's not their fault. It was the head coach's fault and his staff that they didn't win. The players are these are college football players. Exactly exactly and I mean you know? Another thing kind of becoming from high school background and kind of treated some of these kids from I said some of this is rare merged and there was also like an article local written with. Some unnamed sources of course but. said. You know trying to just treat them like they were adolescent boys as opposed to you know eighteen to twenty, two, year twenty, two year old young man. and. Another thing too that was interesting to me is that One of the ecstatic out calling an excuse that he used to use for football and say, well, you know we've only installed about twenty thirty percent of the off. And when Tim O'Brien got here, they asked him early in you know halfway through camp you know how much of the offense do you expect to have installed by the first game and he kind of laughed and said, well, I hope all of it. To me, you tell her I I always felt that Morrison I. Do that well, you know you interview coach around them a couple times a year. I mean he just always seemed like he was at one speed and had one song. Like even like you said like he was just trying to sell and the second year. Any. You know it was all about. Well, we you know we we almost did this and we all mean nobody wants to hear that the second time I actually bought into him the first year because I kind of an energizing. Exciting. I. Talked about. Talked about Clemson to Shawn Watson this. but after a while you get tired of that and I think they made the right move getting rid of them. I mean bringing him back would have been a disaster and look where they are. Regardless of what happens now, for San Pittman, he's got the fan base ready to. Fight for him in a gutter. Hey, thanks for the call. Appreciate it. We will talk to Lane Kiffin in the next hour and we will include your phone calls coming up right after this. You're listening to the Paul Finebaum show podcast. We welcome you back about thirty minutes ago. One of the. Friendliest callers in this shows history Matt from San Antonio Guy. Everybody's a little brother called out. One of the baddest dude on the show legend from Birmingham legend. I don't know if you've heard it but but I'm sure you've heard about it. Man I'm shaking Paul. I don't know what to do. Oh, no. No No. Blessing little haw little. Mattie Mattie get up the blessings. Little Heart. I mean, that's like the braves calling out. I mean the marlins called out the brave they'd have thaw. No hitters. Yeah. No. Pitching. Or No, KITCHEN Hitting and pitching I like the braves. Dodgers the. Old Times Oh, times. I'll tell you complain the AM teams, the Marlins I think that's proper. Cause I am definitely a bottom feeder. Will always be a bottom feeder. But I'd say that's the little Mattie plus your heart's on. But poll for your team the League, you'll win and games. One of these years it won't be this year. And I can't wait for Florida to beat them by thirty on. Saturday. Pau can't wait for that. That's that's all be I've I've just done a cheer that I just can't wait for the pollinator say this I don't like Mike. Griffin. Okay. Why Not Legend I don't like about homer. He's a he's a home. Paul. He's got whatever the glasses on and let me just say the Mike Griffin next week. I'll be fighting and you'll buys grow. And we'll see then if the buffalo bills of college football. Got To win they're ready to graduate. In you'll face white griffin that's where I'll be next weekend costs I don't like to do and I look forward to putting my foot in your but next weekend. Hey. Already got the lanes trade on eighty eight lane dropping by. Let me say something to the lane trained to. Put Some Day on respect and Your Voice When you talk about Nick Sabin. Causing one for Nick. Saving, you'll sorry, but they'll be on that pile that he grew you all. News ago. Cost before then lane trying. Lane. Lane caboose. That's what you was. Do you had no intact date you had no respect among coaches you ethics value at some of the greatest college then professional programs in football, his St Nick Sabin, Kick Joe Sorry. But of the ask and talk you have some integrity and respect healed though, and it's the only reason. Do you have a job in the SEC today? So when you call him elderly again, remember he's Twenty and Oh against his assistant and he will be putting mud mudhole and you'll but come Saturday night plus some damn respect and your boys when you talk about Nick Sabin Buddy. Palmer, tell you guilt Tennessee a chance on Saturday or meditate you better believe it. Left Tackle Trey Smith. Definite top five draft. Pick in the NFL draft. Next year. Love having an end Annapolis next. Thank you mark Quinton Nelson from Notre Dame. Guy Is. Mammoth gives a great the best left tackle in the game in college football, and again I mean, he'll tell c. a real test because pills Georgia's bills starting quarterback I mean. They got a real chance. To, know, I'm pulling pig Luzzi made to. The Cut. Please Auburn and here's about thinking I. Rather Have Rights Than Bonet postponement says, well, backwards ball knob forward. Love your. Legend out. Thank you very much Let me get. Let me Okay a little bit of news coming up from Brett mcmurphy The bay, or athletic. Department has suspended all football related activities. For further evaluation of recent positive tests and completion of close contact. Tracing they have this week, which is good. They have Oklahoma state next week, which is huge huge game. So that's a story that will deserve some pretty close monitoring. It had been a very quiet week, cove it why hurricanes had been the bigger story but that is certainly a big one coming out of Waco we'll take a break final hour lane. Is, thirty minutes away Gene Savak off from Charleston on the future of will mush champ. He is coming up next.

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 1

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 1

"That's messed up. That's a mess up way to start everybody. I mean, you're not raw. What are you gonna do? House. Weaking is good. Good good. Not bad. It was a no rain. Really? I mean rain a little bit. But that didn't happen. It was good good weekend. I must say I had the opportunity to visit the international of toxic hall of fame house. That was actually really amazed. When I'm a nerd anyway. So museums and things of that nature. I could spend hours in awareness. It's actually right outside of Verona, New York. I was there for design fight casino. Their work minutes away to hall of fame. I got a chance to hang out with Sugar Ray as looking at his artifacts. Also, they're almost exact day of the fight of the century and Madison Square Garden actually have the actual cold rain and the hall of fame. Like that big like that. Yeah. It's pretty cool. You Iraqi hall of fame visiting type of person, no disrespect intended to Verona New York. Why is it? They're great stories. So apparently, the it's only thirty nine years old. I believe three nine forty nine years old place. It is an odd place. That's why I was wondering. Fame's are in places though. That is true. Yeah. That is. Yeah. I mean, we're started by really Pash hands with cheap land, right? Like the buildings and really passionate people. Remember the college football used to be in south being they moved into the now. Yeah. Bill at least got you know. South in Atlanta, make more sense than Verona no south being south being Indiana. No way. No. But you don't put it. No, one wants to go to south being Indiana. We'll ask Loor. That's why. That's a fair. Nobody wants to go here to to it is it's not necessarily Notre Dame game. You're probably just keep moving right on exam. Eggs. What happened it happened? It happened a little bit later than we thought Antonio Brown. Did get traded to the Oakland Raiders for v. Fifth round pick which ki- you mentioned that they were not going to get a first round Amari Cooper, get your first round pick. But in Tokyo Brown gets you three to five. Yeah. I mean, but that's that's the league in itself though. And a lot of people really don't understand because he such a terrific player. You know, certainly hall of fame with incites in his career, and you would say, well, how could that be? But that's just the lead the league will not they're not gonna get a guy who's a six round pick and all of a sudden hit and then moving at thirty years old for one. It's just not this is not what they do. If you're a wise is age more than anything. It's a little bit. I think it's a little bit of both but more. So where he was drafted. They just don't it's almost like a meeting your fault when you passed on teams, don't, you know, people like I'm not gonna mitt that we missed on him. Now all of a sudden now years later, we give up first round pick for him. We should have did that years ago. They don't wanna do that. No. But we'll give you a three and a five we'll give you four and a five we'll give you five six to three. I mean, they could they'll do that all day long. It Tony around says that he's happy to be in Oakland. The right of maybe. Raider baby. Will be my family right now. We are my current. We just Madonna got me this cool hat so must be like in the pool or hanging out doing whatever it is in Tokyo Brown does he's happy. So every should be happy though in look when you look at the deal as a whole Travis and ills z it's a two year deal. That's a sensually. What it is. I mean, we could say three years whatever it's a two year deal. He parlayed that thirty plus million dollars that was left on a three year deal got two years out of the raiders a guarantee money when it was no guaranteed money coming out of Oakland. I mean coming out of Pittsburgh, which was a plus for him and his family. That's all it is a two year deal. And if you can get a two year deal, if you would a guy like Antonio, and whatever the future holds beyond those two years, you take you accept the thirty is not guaranteed. So Pittsburgh's problem is their franchise that don't guarantee contracts beyond with the signing. Bonuses are right. They're willing to. Give you a signing bonus in that. But they're not willing to guarantee anything in the contract. And that's where all fell apart it fell apart for them. When Antonio look that those last three years of his deal himself will wait a minute. I'm thirty years old. I'm still at the top of the game. There's no guarantee money if he would have been quiet said nothing just play good guy. He still got that money in September would no problem. But there's no chance there's not there wouldn't have been a chance for him to get the next year this year, he would have gotten which was about thirteen million even gotten f- for sure let me let me be let me take Jon Gruden side here for saying can I make this case because we've been hard on him. We've been critical of his decision making we've been critical of the way that they moved Khalil Mack and Marc Cooper and everything else. But let me results have been hard on them too. They have record terrible. They took Amari Cooper and got in Tonio Brown in that spun Antonio Brown better football player than more Cooper. Maybe it's not a huge margin. But he's he's had at least he's had. More more kind of success more consistent and in the process. They turned a three and a five new number one pick. So they got the better player in the higher pick. Can you not arguing that Jon Gruden at least in this particular scenario at that position? With those picks. He won that deal. What I was say is this if you telling me, this was all part of John gruden's master plan. They'll be like, oh my God. He's a genius that sees beyond all of us think he stumbled into it, you know, he's stumbled into it. So I don't like to give people credit from some sort of overseeing sort of perspective when you and I all know that he didn't plan on any of this. You can't plan for this. This was pure luck. He benefited from it. But I am more willing to give credit to a GM that you see it's playing chess as as opposed to somebody who is one of the diets just hit. Well, he look he here's the here's what it all boils down to man, they ever you want to look at it. They gave up Amari Cooper who. Who's young at twenty something years old more Cooper's going to get more money than Antonio guy? He's gonna get more money than that over longer. Periods of time. There's no question about it. You look at it at third around picking this call it third round the five that's just a if the five makes great if he doesn't no big deal. Third round picks usually make the teams they gave up with three to get an Tonio for two years. That's what they did. And they gave him thirty million dollars of guaranteed money that he would have he would have made with Pittsburgh unguaranteed. But he would have made the roster two more years. There's no question about it. So at the end of the day, John grooten looks great may I looks great look like they they robbed them without a mask on in. No question. No question about it. But where are they going? What what what what's the endgame is? This all of a sudden gonna take them in make them this. Great Super Bowl contender will. That's question. Isn't it that is this just a one off is this just something that they're going to do? And because as Z said that they kind of stumbled into the good fortune of a we can get in Tonio Brown. And we don't have to give up a lot to do it. Or is this the beginning of them doing something that's gonna make them a better football team in the very very short term. And they might not be done in that respect here. What other Pro Bowl or maybe on their way to Oakland as well? We'll tell you who that is. That is coming up next. Happy guy. Chris. No, happy birthday, L z. We missed you guys. Thank you. Where'd you calming complainers? Chelsea l z is fifty two years old. Brought to you. Oh, no, sixty to convert the Jaguar Land Rover of Newport Beach off the Seventy-three towards the sea. Visit Land Rover Newport Beach dot com. Land Rover above and beyond for Z. So guys, you know, I still got it how so our graduates. So how did that as you know? I was covering a fight. Yes. The fight lasted roughly about midnight. Right. So when we're done with broadcast flip. It's my birthday the design team goes as your perfectly. Let's go drinking sounds like let's say regard with drinking drinking drinking drinking two o'clock hits two o'clock is actually three o'clock now. All right. Yes. Because daylight savings time. My fried said five, oh, no you didn't. So I just wrote straight from the bar with upstairs stuffed closer to suitcase right to the hotel took a nap on the initial flight stayed up the whole flight over when out drank some more below Atlanta here. Yeah, I'm like functional who knows like six hours over two days. Birthday celebrations. God you gotta last night. I got in guiding yesterday. But I didn't the entire night is kinda looked like you were involved in boxing match. I was gonna ask couple times where you know. I got it. But it's it's got some stores. So yesterday was your birthday. Oh, so we all collectively misty yesterday. No, the people who actually care in love me remembered, nobody on this show. I did I asked you when you got in, you know. What have but I'm quite Birkdale. So thank you. Thank you, very much feel a little a little bad as where you should. All right. So November we got plenty of time. I missed. Everybody missing a few times apparently down look. Okay. The raiders have in Tonio Brown. They got that. We knew we suspected that that might be getting done. Now. Maybe that was just kind of the first move in what they're doing kind of rebuild this whole thing. Now, they're speculation that Levy on bell. Couldn't could go to the raiders as offer the offer him a similar contract to the one that they did for a be Derek Carr. Started following bell on Twitter after the got AB done. And we know that Derek Carr. Remember, he had those comments about ABC. And hey, you know, we really like him. We'd love to add great player. And maybe this is another telco. You said that once he started saying, hey, you know, we we love good players. Could this be the same thing? It could be. I mean, a BI obviously, there's some history with the raiders in Pittsburgh in terms of Intel and understanding what type of players that the getting Mike Tomlin worked under John Gruden when he was a defensive back coach. When Tony Dungy hired him. So Tomlin certainly could speak to labiancas is a person all those are things to get some familiarity in conference level with them. Plus the rate has got a lot of cap space. Yeah. Terms of money to spend in lady, I'm Bill is obviously looking for similar deal if not better than tie girlies, the raiders need a running back in the west coast system, lady I'm Bill fits good because he's a guy who could catch the ball out of the backfield as well as run the ball between the tackles. So you know, you you look at that. And that means it if it's me, I'm certainly going to go all in in trying to get it done. We're lady I'm Bill, but I'm Bill. What is it that lady? I'm Bill is looking for you looking for just the money. Are you looking for the money and championship kind of like a Bryce Harper situation baseball where he can get the money now is there a opportunity to play for team that's going to pay you and have a chance to go to the. Well, that's the question is which of those two things are the raiders are. The raiders just a team that has some money available, and they can throw it around and give it to somebody that is good player like levian bell. Or are they team that has some money that they can throw it around? And they're on the cusp of becoming a good football team. Here's Adam Schefter, talking about the Reiter base and how they're prepared for the future gotta rebuild that roster. Right now, there were massive holes created by the departures of Amari Cooper, and Khalil Mack. They've now gone out and acquired in Tonio Brown, which I think it's fair to say they filled the whole of wide receiver. They're positioned in this stress in a spot where they might be able to come up with a pass rusher though. It's hard to come up with somebody as good as Khalil Mack. And I think that moving into this new stadium in Las Vegas in twenty twenty there. I'm the future they're trying to build towards that. And look when you get a player like new brand is going to be thirty one years old Nick season. You take a major step towards making the offense more salvageable? Now, again, they still have a lot of work to do. But I think that they believe this is a. Major step in the right way. So let's play it out for second. They get levian Bill. Okay. Did Jon Gruden again. It's kind of the same question. It was Jon Gruden plank chess, or is this just the residue of some really Joaquin stuff that he did that turned out to be. Okay, they go back to VM barrels already available. He was available. Now, they can go get him and Tonio Brown age of quarterback that we've seen his played at a decent enough level that he can be your guy. I go back and it hasn't worked out. Exactly. Right. And we'll get to this down the road. But when at the end of the Kobe time when the Lakers kind of tried to put something together with Kobe give him one last shot and at the same time kind of tried to put together a Rosser they're really couldn't win. And they didn't either. They did neither thing. Well, they weren't bad enough. But they still kept getting the second ping pong ball. They still kept getting that number two. But I don't think that was by design. I think that was just more the residue of it, which one do the the raiders fall in design or just kind of fortunate that things are breaking their way. Well, let's start with this. When Jon Gruden was hired. Did you think that they were headed for the Super Bowl? No, okay. When Jon Gruden started meet making knows that you think he was going to the Super Bowl. All right. When you hear John gruden's name, do you think oh look out for this coach does he's putting them together when Jon Gruden calls you on the phone. You're the opposing team. Are you nervous about doing dealings with them? No. Then I would say based upon your series of knows that this was luck. Because to me when Bill Belichick calls you on the phone and says, hey, I got a trade idea you're nervous because you're worried that you're going to get out smarter. Right. When you hear certain coaches, a certain GM's are making phone calls or involved with something you are nervous because they have demonstrated a level of competency that always makes them look as if they're coming out on top when Jon Gruden calls with John groups names involve you really start to spurt because you had stiffly fake. He's. I do too stupid. So I don't think key that someone whose name when you hear breeze. No confidence in terms of long-term winning that you will look at what's happened with the Oakland Raiders. And think this was part of a plan. Will he is? Here's what I'm saying. It's not it wasn't part of a plan. But what I could say in all of this is for Johnny. Boy, he's a very bad talent evaluator as far as picking players draft any free agency. Are it's bad talent valuator? Doesn't mean that he made enough put people around him to evaluate talent. We don't know anybody could evaluate and Tony Brown. It's not hard. I mean, I. Oh, yeah. He's really I'll take him. It's easy to do that. I'm smart. It's gonna be hard for them or for him to find those other pieces to go around them to make them competitive. Those two guys if he was to get both of them. It's easy. That's a home run. Thirty other teams in the league take him. No question. But what are they going to do beyond that? Or can they valuate the third receiver the second receiver the defensive backs of pass rate specialists that they missed on when they didn't sign Khalil Mack. And now all of a sudden it had thirteen sacks to out the year. The this the next closest team was at thirty two. I believe they had thirteen the next closest team was thirty two you see that gap. Can they feel that gap with players to go get the quarterback to evaluate that will a missile? No sorties. That's the key. The key is not the big names. Anybody could we can go pick out of. Von Miller Hort, Donald not hard. Can we find us a guy who in the third round that's going to be an all pro? Can we find that guy? Can we Negga? That's the thing. He is not done. Well, but I'm not a Jon Gruden guy. But it's like even less now with me here. Well, that's probably true. That's probably true. You've educated wake up bras, come on, man. I think energy. I think what's interesting is that you look at it. And at the beginning of last season when he started doing what he's doing. We're like wouldn't the hell is he good? What's he puts trying to get done and fast forward the beginning of this season. And if Antonio Brown and Levy on Beller on this team. And maybe he picks you keep in mind. They got three first round draft picks to if they hit on a couple of those. I even if they miss on one, but hit onto all of a sudden a year later that's looking far far different than I think a lot of people would have imagined. It would they not gonna miss off three first round keep them. They go hit a one of somebody's gonna come out of. All right. So Jeff Van Gundy has some advice for the Lakers this upcoming off season. And what he suggested is pretty shocking here it next. Have you guys? Watching Indian Wells know what movie is. Well done well done if I miss anything speedy recovery. Serena Williams, she retired during her matches for illness. So speedy recovery. Compton zone. Yes. Local local, right. Yeah. It sounded this. We should move on from that. All right, Lakers. They lost to the the Celtics on Saturday night. And not a huge surprise. They're playing incredibly short handed, but Japan, Gundy, said something during the telecast that was interesting and seems like incredibly aggressive reaction to the fact that the Lakers have had a bad year. Here's Van Gundy during the game, and look I think in the off season. They have to rebuild this roskin. Right. Into me. It could be a trade with. Anthony Davis, or I think need to sport trading the Braun for getting this much as they can what are you doing? What are you doing? No. You gotta get on the right time. If I I'm going to say if I could trade in for the clippers into cap space, which would give me a better chance to get Durant or collide, Leonard would I not do that the broad James not get trading? Okay. Do you to put everything on? You. Can't I hear from the players? It's business. Everything is business. It's business than I have to do what festive my business. I'm not saying you deathly trade him saying everything's on the table to get this team better. Everything it will. He certainly will not be the next hick. You can take Jeff Van Gundy off the list of potential candidates. But look, I I'm not in the business of agreeing with Mark Jackson typically, but I'm with Mark Jackson still put doing they're not. They're not going to get LeBron James and then have a bad season, which they're in the midst of having and then turn around and trade him for what might be coming down the road. Lebron James is still one of the very best players in this league. You have to understand when you're in the midst of covering alive event in clearly, you know, this especially during Jeff Fisher's first season. That you have to come up with different angles and conversations because visually get tired of saying this team sucks. Yeah. Eventually get tired of saying, you know, this team's not accompany the disappointed sees like you can't keep saying to safety over and over again. And so you come up with different theories that can be just good fodder to compensate about. This is one is good fodder. You know, oh, if you would've trained abroad Jj, you could get Anthony Davis and a three team deal, and you can get like this guy like a whole bunch of first round, pigs, blah, blah, blah. That's true. You could probably do that. But this isn't this isn't Herschel Walker. We're talking. No, where if you trade the games best player has no impact. Cut you off. But you mentioned Herschel Walker that worked out pretty well. The cowboys. In that case that now wait hold on a second. Maybe I wanted. Herschel Walker because one no-show long was never to give you the equivalence Lia. What the rate with Dallas Cowboys got Herschel Walker not LeBron James. So let's stop that. I mean, it sound good because you sitting there going, okay? That one year experiment didn't work. So let's move on. But it was never a one year deal. No, this was you know, they they looked at the next year and the Knicks she and the next year not this one year. So why would you try to guy that you put all this into that still can play steal the top dude in the NBA to do? What you you you still need multiple players to come to LA the play. Okay. Again. Let me be clear as I can with this. I'm not advocating for this. But if I'm reading Jeff Van Gundy, what he said key what you said like us at trade LeBron for what well trade him because having the Braun is not the answer to my problems having LeBron does not get me pass, Golden State. It hasn't even gotten. Into the playoffs. Now, there are some extenuating circumstances, obviously. But you could be saying that this is not going to get better moving forward. It. Maybe it'll get slightly better. Maybe instead of him missing eighteen games, miss twelve or ten or whatever it is. But I don't have what I need. What I need is more talent. What I can get is more picks more space more this that in the next push it off another five years. Well, no what I'm doing is. I'm exceleron the line because I might be pushing it off for three or four more years anyway with LeBron and I don't have the assets that I could get coming back. You you look incompetent if you move heaven and earth in your first year to accommodate for LeBron. And then you flip them, you know, they did you think about how quickly they did to move people out in order to the cap space to make any of this conversation possible. It was all with the one goal of trying to be able to sign a brand chains. You got your first goal when you got hired you said as a three to four year plan. All right. This is. Season one of that plan. If you try to flip him, you look like you've panicking, right and no one wants to go to a panicky organization. That's just trading for the sake of trades. So for the simple fact that you need to stabilize your credibility. You can't even think about trying to flip him because your initial plan was to get him. And now you're banning it without actually implementing it. I think that's as good of an argument for to not do it as anything else that you need to stay the course for a little bit. Now, the other word van to us at the very beginning of that is that they need to rebuild the team. So does that mean that they rebuild that LeBron is the piece that you have and everything else is open for discussion. And that he's the one piece that you're gonna bring back or does the rebuild mean you rebuild the Rondo piece. Stevenson piece McGee and everything else is gonna stay. You have to you have to do it. Anyway, there ought to win your deals. I didn't make myself clear what I'm talking about. Lonzo Ingram Coosa heart or all those guys part of a quote unquote, rebuild in in the sense that look everybody's undervaluation with the exception of number twenty three. But remember that's always been the case. That was the case coming into wasn't key. It wasn't to the year was this year. But keep in mind, they decided not to get Paul George because they were in on Brandon Ingram, though. Some of these guys were not available. Well, Brandon Ingram they still like, and they still in branding doesn't mean that because we see ran the erased something they see something totally different now, obviously just got hurt. And so that changes he's a little bit. But the last two months would have months he's been terrific. He has riff, but that's what I'm talking about who's available who's not what does the rebuild look like that's what the Lakers need to figure out and what they're going to do for the last fifteen up. It's a new more shutdown. What does it mean? That's next. Wait a minute. But. It is his birthday. But this is this is a. Well, what did you? What did you say Chris is it not what is bigger hits? Whose heads tippling gonna play this for Timbo? I am this is one of those check with me moment, you should have checked asleep. So okay. Exactly. Right. You know, tiptoes got his old stuff. I know. But this was not a big hit. We'll do better later. This was a big hit was not a very. Let's not even over to Q. Later. Did this jimbo's birthday? Well, again, guys big hit. Oh boy. Geico do Rosh. I I still have no idea what you guys are talking about. Here. I'll help you. I don't know. That was never mind. I'm gonna. Unpack that wrong. And then it'll be a whole different thing. We'll we'll we'll circle back to it. Brandon Ingram out for the year. Lonzo ball out for the year. We've got guys that are very important to the future of the Laker presumably that there were not going to see over the course of the last fifteen or sixteen games of the season. So I mean, what do do you just you just pack it in I know that LeBron's going to play under a minutes. Limit. I know that he's probably he played Celtics played pretty well. Lebron game. But do you just have a Bronco out there? Get his triple double or near that. And Louis minute. Minute ping pong balls. Just play basketball. Whatever happens happens that you. You know, you just play whatever you have you you play the last ten games so season, and whatever it is that you have out on the floor. That's what you do. I mean, people say pack in it's like it's already packed in. What else can you do packing it in? But I mean, do you just literally go out there and take the wrong word because that sounds bad? But do you just do you know that there's no chance for anything? So these last sixteen games. Do you go out of your way to make sure that you try to lose his many of the sixteen as you can because like it's not likely, but the more ping pong balls. You throw into that the more likely maybe you get a Zion Williamson bounce. Yes. Go ahead. Do play hard at the five. Legible run the point. You know, that's what we do. Here's LeBron tug about the ball. Ingram injury news and just the the mess. It's been this season more important than just the you put everything in perspective ended out when we played a game that we love and our our leagues all about wins and losses, and that's what it's all about. But you know, when you have something like that happen, you able to put in perspective and understand how for knows things are as well. And then own flipside, you just don't take an opportunity for granted. When you do get on the floor because it can be taken away from you in your UC's can be shut down. I like. And those since their cases of obviously, we wish the best of health not only to be. I always well. So Brandon Ingram has a DVD which is a deep vein. Thrombosis? It is a blood clot issue, which can be really serious if it's not treated if you get treated, you should be fine. This is something that they can treat. But this was not just a, you know, he twisted his ankle. So let's shut him down for the rest of the season. This was a real medical event. Right. Right. When and as well as he's playing in obviously, very disappointing because you wanted to see him the season's lost. But was not laws is your opportunity t- valuate you opportunity to grow. If you're young play Brandon Ingram, and from sake your opportunity to showcase what this is. In case you want to try to include it for something else to any off-season all that get slightly derailed. But I think Brandon Ingram put together enough when Canada flipped over you guys that if his name is mentioned, his value is values up because. Together, a nice run there in which you can look at that. And if you say, hey, man, I wanna flip that for Anthony Davis not on sending the new GM from New Orleans. Not going not trashy. They're gonna go going. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I can use that piece done that now. In my opinion. He's also done enough that you don't necessarily rush throw his name into the trade head again. The name is. For magic and rob. Anyway, as a hold on him if they can't, but when anti-daewoo comes up, and they mention him as part of the package because Anthony Davis is such a strong player in this league. You certainly would look to move in. But you would wanna hold you back. If something else came up, you're not gonna you won't throw him in the deal for Dame. Lillard? Are you all throw in the deal for you, know, know, you want? No. Three years. They've missed the playoffs. All three years. I know he's getting better. But I this idea that he's untouchable guy just. Better. But this idea that everything I can hold him back. No. If there's a Dane Lillard is an NBA all star who's a difference maker just about every single night. I'm taking that guy. I'm taking that. Listen, all I was saying was is that remember I would say around November December we were all sort of what I won't be for key asserting traveling. We were kind of going, you know, that's that's just a guy. You can go ahead move that. I don't care knows more than just now. I feel differently about it. Now, I'm like going, you know, what honestly since y'all since the Kaunda flip. But definitely after the all star break, he's been straight balling. And you could see why magic and rob like going we can keep him and at Paul George and then have the Brown. We'll be nice you see now what they're talking about. Because Brandon Ingram has been consistent. He's always shown flashes. But this stretch has been consistent. And that's the reason why I wouldn't hold them back for Anthony Davis. But if it comes to like. Daimler would I consider more of a tier two all-star talent? When it comes to those guys tier two all star talent better than a no all-star talent. Yes. But if you have Brandon Ingram, but you have to pay Daimler money and have similar production. That's what I'm talking about. I look Brandon Ingram. I'm with you. I've come back to the point where I think he's a very good player. I think he's a guy that if he's on your team, you're happy to have him that he's a valuable valuable guy. I also think that if I can get a guy that's an all star that that is a guy that is more of a I don't need to project quite as much as to what it is. But what rather what it is right now, I'm going to do it. The lakers. I think have gotten into a little bit of trouble constantly doing the. Let's wait and see what this looks like. And then it doesn't really look like anything that is. I gotta have it. I mean, and then the guys that they do move turn into be other guys. Now, maybe this is a conversation. That's a little bit different that are they moving the right guys. Or is it just the fact that they're moving out is what kind of freeze them up. You look at Julius Randle enough. Orleans. You look at the Angelo Russell in Brooklyn. Both of those guys are arguably having the best years of their careers, and it was their first years away from this team. Yeah. But but because of their the only thing on those teams though, I mean, if you really look at it they date shot. They would not that with the Lakers Lakers trying to do something with multiple players. Will you look at Brooklyn? I mean, he's the main focus you look at the pelicans now, Randall's the main focus AD out so in random had a good year last year. We I mean, he really did it Russell has some bright spots here near he was overshadowed by talking by doing. Yeah. Basically by snitching in doing some of the Rosh type stuff. Wake-up rows me. I haven't heard you. Well, it's funny. You mentioned that Keyshawn because if you have the key word from Saturday's Laker game. Make sure you listen during the seven AM our for key shots you to call. We'll have a chance to win sweet passes to the Lakers game on April the seven as right say listen Lakers versus bull game tomorrow night for another keyword here. Is that better that is better? That was nice rich. Yeah. Voice has a little suffering. It does had a rough weekend. See win last night. Oh, really? Yeah. Good times. Lots christian. Who's that player with not gallons? Went to the game. And he did. Well, yes. Yes. China's He did for him. We'll do some world call later in about an hour, but went to the game and lots of people were asking about. Whereas e because they're to seeing you there and Travis they even asked about you. You're gonna make it to a game this year. I'd love to. Okay. You should come on out. I wanna see Christian play. All right. I just did not seem think. Yeah. I like going to games I like going to see fun stuff. You're not working. So you get to come to a tailgate. You get with me this time. Absolutely. Not we put down a whole big thing to kill max. I don't wanna hang out with you. Oh, that's okay. Feeling good. We'll see. No, I definitely want to go. All right. So the Rams they added a couple of players over the weekend. Another first round pick as well. We'll tell you who it is.

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"Don't let a hangover slow you down fight it with goodies hangover pain relief at the speed of powder. Saying over is the first hangover offering from analgesics brand. It temporarily relieves minor pains due to hangover headache and even handles muscle aches go hangover comes in tasty berry citrus boost flavor, and includes about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee to help restore mental alertness when experiencing fatigue drowsiness associated with the hangover simply toss it back or mix with water or juice. It's that easy. Cody sang over real medicine for real hangovers available on Amazon in Walmart and at your local convenience store. Pride, Passion Than Pageantry of College football leaves here. The Paul. Finebaum. Show our three podcast. We all welcome back to the Paul Finebaum show. As you can tell from the voice in the hair, it does not. Paul Finebaum. I'm Peter Burns that is Rome in harbour policy having a little technical difficulties that we're getting back to him. He's not pixellated as we see the feed Paul he's there be looks like one of those Al Dial up connections right now. So was. Bombing was good when you get the disk from the blockbuster was it was great You know what? Back in the day I used to I used to go to blockbusters and that was right around the same time. He used to have this guy the next guest on our show on my show back at tickets sixty San. Antonio. Guy Rick Horo who joins the show. Every single week. So Rick, I I didn't I don't know if we thought that you and I were going to be talking today we weren't scheduled. You were scheduled to talk to Paul, but it's great to catch up with you man and my goodness what a busy time in the sports business world is with college football. Heck being what a couple of days away now. First of all I'm, GONNA RETREAT IN. Maine. And I was excited about talking to Paul but I. Will Live Paul Become Wally. Pipped you think Oh, get his job back Y- trust me as bad as I am at this show there's no doubt. This is the best thing to happen to Paul Finebaum is me hosting because then they realized how talented? That finebaum actually you that that's gratuitous but I'll accept it listen. I get the fact that you look at the college schedule my buddies and I were talking today and you realize that come what? Next Thursday or even a couple of days from now we'll college football. Again, we're conference play. We still have certainty the back end about the PAC twelve and big ten but. The back end is you know spring that's a long time from now. So how many fans how you? GonNa pay for it what's name image and likeness? How do you support the smaller sports? What happens with title nine? All of those issues pale in comparison to we finally get our wish about college football and all we have is a worldwide pandemic between us and crowds. Hey we're this is Roman. Harper. Question for me is that how big of opportunities the XFL missing out on if they would've stayed afloat all the college campuses cancelling the big ten all like being able to recruit these young players to say, Hey, if they don't WanNa let you play. You can come play here for us and we'll pay you for. Roman. That's a really good question in the bottom line is that you know there was a a method behind Vince McMahon's madness of declaring bankruptcy. You know now the rocks got the issue I. Understand they missed a little bit of this but at the end of the day, the bottom line is that they were going to figure out how to capture the market. Now they're not GonNa Start, in twenty, twenty one I, don't think I mean who knows. But if they started twenty twenty two, they're going to have a whole. Lot of time to deal with this issue of is eligibility out what are you gonNa do with it what's going to happen with the fall guys and probably there's more questions than answers I still am not a way rate waving the white flag on the on the xfl by the way because we don't know if spring football works or not they had one half a year to prove and really the jury still out the Great Ricardo joining Peter Burns Roman Harper, Fillon into right now is ball's having a little technical difficulty. You talked about having fans and I think it's it's so intriguing as we've seen throughout the traditional, you're looking at around twenty to twenty five percent of attendance figures that they hoped to have when the Games are being played. Let's spend it a couple of years for do you think that now we're talking about building stadiums in a different way to prepare for something like this or going to smaller venues and increasing ticket prices what's the big picture effect of all of this? Money money and money they need money everybody needs money. So here's the thought of we're going to go from weird categories and they're really mean the waterfront of this. You realize that University of Texas just cut a deal with a company called germ logic to be the official German control provider of Youtube Texas world. So Texas Longhorn Stadium. Yeah. silly. But maybe how about this about alcohol sales over twenty one in college stadium never thought about that what about? Gambling those issues what about naming rights deals like university Georgia Tech just Georgia state just cut with what used to be Turner field. All of those things would have been relatively unheard of short-term this time it's a real deal because otherwise how you to pay for the smaller sports, the title, nine sports, and all of the rest of it it is going to be a very difficult time and athletic directors are going to earn their money like never before. We talking to rick all right now, sports business analyst. You can follow him on twitter at Ricardo. Rick when you look at what this is going to do because obviously entertainment is at a premium bright in college football is always at the forefront of that. What will this do to broadcast rights as well too is when we see the NBA and the NFL of course is in for their deal coming up in a couple of years they wanNA have something hammered out astronomical or is this going to cut everybody's ask down a whole lot? Man Other. Question. Paul better start worrying a little bit. Here's the deal to deal is it cuts both ways obviously television important everybody thought that there would be a real problem of watching games fans not the issue the ratings have gone through the roof. Twenty five to thirty, five percent above with everything. Now have that streaming you really streaming has gone up about forty percents including twenty seven percent of from US old geezers fifty five and over we were accused of being too old to stream. We didn't know how to do. Well, we do and when you look all of this stuff, what it means is that the right should be more expensive than. Ever before take a look at advertising, just really quickly, you realize that the NBA Nhl have had four hundred, seventy, two different brands and hundred sixty, eight, million dollars in advertising and seventy five hundred commercials aired just as the playoffs started. So the point is more and more creativity being poured into every kind of media. Why? Because that's really the Savior of sports during this turbulent period of twenty twenty. Rick. So maybe help draw this picture for me and other fans when when we actually allow these fans into the stadium, is it going to be like plexiglass all over the place or are they going to be able to freely just go to the bathroom? Are you gonna be able to save your sex in a? Are you gonNA mingle with section B how they're going to break whole thing? Let's go honey. No no bathroom breaks you can't go. Listen there are a lot. There are a lot of things that are happening. That architects driven and the Miami Dolphins came out with a prototype three months ago, and now they're one of the teams that's going to allow fans. You'RE GONNA HAVE A. Social. DISTANCING BETWEEN SEATS YOU'RE GONNA have concessions order digitally and delivered or picked up digitally you're going to have social distancing from parking. You're going to have temperature tests when you get into the Games you're GonNa have enough spacing where you're gonNA have lottery for tickets. Many people have chosen to roll over their tickets not for this year and use them for next year. So lot of creativity and marketing. But here here's the most important thing four months ago Seton Hall. Did A survey saying seventy, two percent of people even avid sports fans would not go to A. Game unless there was vaccine, that's probably not the case. Now obviously 'cause lot of these stays are opening up, but there is a perception that if there's not safety and if there's one or two positive tests, that's GonNa kill it for the future. So you better be darn sure that it's a safe environment or people are just going to watch it home. There's zero doubt about that. Hey, thank you so much great to catch up with you again and always great to have you here on the Paul Finebaum show even having technical difficulties and you stuck with Roman me. My fate intellectually in the Paul Finebaum show has been restored. There is. 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Are you ready hit the Bun? Hello. I'm Anne how are you sir? Peter Burns Peter Burns Peter. Burns how you doing. have been great to hear your. Voice. I may let's talk to betty. Tell you what we've been covert and masked is since last time I talked to you and I'm glad to see you do it. Well, I've walked through the dinner we have then we don't have main caving and no, there ain't no plastic on the couch. But as walking through the day and the hard you zone there and and then I heard, you said you had a co host tweets and I thought you had who's at that that also Roland Martin I thought you that fishermen on there 'cause I was fixing to call and raise hell about a bunch of helicopter Lewis I bought at three thirty in the morning. And I thought I had a secret weapon I ended up throwing thirty five dollars worth of helicopters in the dam. Lake? Hey you know I. Mean I'm more of a Bill Martin Guy Anyway Bill Dance. I'm sorry more of a bill dance. He's a big fan so I would have been that way too. But yeah, I'm hanging out with Roman Harper. He's alleged come on well yeah. Years and he's a football player I mean. He's an Alabama football player. You gotTa love that part of the into south of criminal from. Oh. You all. How about that? We're only. I probably I probably missed some your family over there working I'm in I'm pretty sure that. I work all over the place have trunk will travel. Air, have you have air when I leave your house. With yeah, I work all over. Pratt. Well, we don't be bet you know where L. More is to of course, I do twenty, nine of course you do. Some of the worst drivers in Alabama twenty nine. But about thirteen people in that little community, but they divorced drivers. And they live off the back of millbrook. I'm what are you talking about? He know here we are looking at the beginning of the season and I did after I realized that wasn't roller. Martin. You know because he does favorite Greg Norman. WHO Kind of lost a few things in his life but I was I was looking at scrolling thing said, the victim parents were calling off to meet with commissioner? Well, hell reconciled talk about. That's a done deal and what what let me ask you burn in. Rome. What is it with these people calling up? The decisions have been made they're not gonNA change the schedule The nobody else is GonNa play if anything that's GONNA people be people it's not gonNA play. Is Is that fair statement I I think it's about it's a frustration people want and I listened upset man if my son in wanted to play and they felt listen big ten big ten right now there are schools Ohio state sent an email out yesterday Roman, talking about playing intramural football right purdue has record-breaking freshman enrollment on campus and at the same time you're going to be like, right. So these guys can play these guys can play intramural football, but just in fields is he always? Call of duty right now, he's not able to play like that. That's gotta be Russia. It has to be a dad but as a player spring semester when I did not have football that's when I. Hang out the most with the regular student body and now that you're saying in the fall, we're not gonNA have football. So what am I going to do? I'm not going to sit on my thumbs. I'm going to go hang out and have a good time like any other twenty year old kid would do now you. Most to do. What you're supposed to do. Live live live I have you know you gotta? When you get older Jim Cusco. So you have to cherish these moments when you're in your twenties because they go by so fast and you gotta be you gotTa remember when you were. When you work competitive when you could hit a baseball when you could tackle a guy when you can actually reach the pedals of the card put on both gas and brakes and then you know it, it's just frustrating to hear all these people. This is not the hot. There's doctors for that you know and all these kids. This is a fair statement. Would you agree with Roman? We play football year round down here we grow up on grass you in that in that straight and get tackled he'll take you all get tackled and straighten hit the neighbor's car you. You will hit the neighbor's car and then they would run off with a bicycle too but we're outdoors people we don't get snowed in in one of the snow we do get guess what we go there, barefoot anyway. Peter Burns Burns Burns and not rolling Martin Roman hot. Day More Dan legal. Levy Buddy. Romo I want to take what I'm talking on. He says he's happy that SEC is playing. I'm GonNa take a serious moment here in something I I was out last week and my brother passed away and strong and it was it was a tough situation for a whole family and we were five years apart and one of the things about me, my brothers that while we never shared the same friends growing up, we never went to the same classes but one thing that brought us together. Was Football one thing that brought us together was sec football specifically LSU football right? We would tax tune in you know we might not talk to each other for a month and a half or something he'd be like, Hey, man, Joe, borough look with the Tigers did and in that connection and I couldn't help. But think about how much of this mental aspect it means two people to have something in their life that they can hold onto right now in this. Uncertainty, right now, college football has always been therefore that's why we're fighting so hard to have it because mean when I had family around this weekend, it was tough time when they were awkward moments, you know what people said, Hey, you think they're gonNa play what do you think I'm going to Florida or what do you think Alabama's GonNa look like is Mack Jones and it was a conversation. You can have and it made it made that chaotic in really sad moment a whole lot easier and I needed in my life. I think you need an alive and I know if you're watching us on on we all needed in her life, some type of return to normalcy, and I hope we get that with college. Yeah and the biggest thing that we continue to try and take for granted. You know the fact that how many people are losing jobs right now how many people out of work? How many people have been furloughed over this that and I that takes me back to New Orleans in two thousand six as asked when I got drafted there right after. Hurricane. Katrina seeing all the displacement there in New Orleans where people had fema trailers in and then actually being able to. Go Watch a saints game on a Sunday it was just normalcy today and that's that was a break from all the heartache, all the pain, this getaway and how much it meant to them to actually just be able to watch, US, play a game and how many people come up and thank just for a moment that. All right why appreciate these three or four hours that I'd some normalcy back? To what I really enjoy in life before I have to go back in his trailer Oh, go back to heartache or something that's not normal or comfortable for me and my family we always talk about how it is about how you got to care for the student athletes and care about this and I think I think these decisions are being made on behalf of student athletes as well I. Can say this just just working and love what I do host and television radio, and you do this now with this is like I felt empty over the last six months not be able to do something I love and not just be covering the sport. I can't imagine be an eighteen year old nineteen year old twenty year old kid that that's all they've known man the and that's their passion. I think we lose sight a lot of times that we think these college football players are NFL and their paycheck and this the maybe they just like playing and it's clear. Their voices have been heard that they wanNA play football at eighteen years old and nineteen. All you want to do is play the game that you love you grew up playing. It's given you every opportunity that you have in. Your. In a short time, you have it and you have you just WanNa play you just love this game. You don't WanNa, take it away from you not because of injury now because of bad grades, not because of my own doing, it's because of something on the outside and not only that. But when you get to look down the road and see that Alabama's playing or the SEC's plan the. Plan and you like will what about us? Why don't we get to play? What did we do wrong and that's so that's so hard as a parent to look at your child see all the work that they put in and look up in like Babe I don't have that answer for you. I, can't give that to you and as parents that's why I miss talk with all the hotline calls all the parents because you messing with their kids they're going to be ready to strike and when you can't give him an answer, a consistent answer at that that is. Where all the questions and the heartache and all the motions are starting to really pile in well an, and again, people are frustrated their pent up and you know and luckily I mean in a credit to what Paul is built on. This show is Paul has been one of the things that it was the first thing back on air allowing us to have that frustration and allowing us to Kinda. Share that with this collective group, we appreciate that eight, five, five, two, four, two Paul well I, guess you go from I man to another legend got Jim in Tuscaloosa. He actually created you're going through the only and other other guys are complete. Gupta Louise No food re written off my back and I think Roland Harper, no one football when I was talking football he was playing. I. Was talking I quit talking football because. I the reason but anyway, the guys are he's GonNa be he's a delusional moron that's what he is He Calls Me Oh I'm not older. I'm not near as old as he is. I'm not old, but you know why does that because you apart my image because? I was the star of the show and have been everything's he started calling the show and you know the fact later I wanted Roman for the wreck for the record I will tell you this whenever Roman sat down. He was like we're going to hear from just the stars. Jim and Tuscaloosa so. You. Don't make me answer that live on every guest. Rushmore Jim Taylor pair. You you need. You need to tell the audience to Nathan, under delusional others who I man and another guy for the last four or five years after. These guys are idiots because they got nothing get am I bringing it now. Oh, all they do their frogs. Are Frogs and their phonies because they've got you nuts and they don't know game but don't know the game that never played the game. You know I played the game till I. Got Her. Is there anything wrong getting hurt Roman? It happens if you play the Game Jim, can you tell me what exactly a frog is for a new to this frog frog. Ron. phonies, phonies, you know. Sony's you know they they weren't reputation and they've gotten and I have one I had one before collar show. That's why I was going on shelter and you were doing. Is Just Hey, he's a hater. He hates somebody. That's that's. Making making something and he's not. So he calls a show. You know it reminds Roman. You know this guy this dim dim with this this Joe Biden talking about Oh get hides in his basement. That's what I meant is he has in his base any people think he's a slum buddy he's a nobody and one day. He hates me got college. Hey Man don't Jim 'cause you ain't him. The man miss the lesson from. Joe Mixon. Said about. What happened to you brother? I didn't know that. Yeah just recently passed away and that's what we were talking about about how listen like you can hate I man in column fraud and all of this later he hates meath. Well. Regardless I'm just saying but what I do love is I miss this community I told Roman so. We're doing. SEC now at seven o'clock today I was like this. This could not. Better of an appetizer to do. More, second, let me change them that. It is don't call me Sir got. We've been through that. Peter you remember we been through that. You believe you believe these food you must believe me here's a Israel. This this nasty. Oh man I meant didn't like point yesterday on the show and he may. Here's the point. I. Don't know if you're the show when I was hot on the shell of others besides him, he wasn't show he just badger everybody in bothered the show because he won't be part of it. He wasn't he never part of well, here's what he did. Say That was true. He said what we need now find on there's more conversations like there used to be, which is what made the show. So famous, that's what made the show. Famous if Peter was when we had it was you gonNa Change to great guy he passed away bright guy loved and we talked out there every day and then we got our air and we were the headlines of the show. We'd love the show we were the cabinet show. Are you there? Yeah. No I hear you and you're right. I think listen Jim I. Think you're you're hitting something that's huge about we need more conversation rather than yelling I listen. We need conversations between people that have some sense that are not going just cloud down your throat 'cause they hate you you know. Joe Biden type people this guy i. Pretend I'm not old like trump but pretend I'm trump the famous president and this Guy Biden is just trashing him every. Option would meet. I'm up against the break, but I'm so thankful that you called it is good to hear from you, and again we'll take that message. Show good to talk to you about both there there is Jim in Tuscaloosa joining us. I. Told You the Puck Love Man I'm an engineer and this is why I'm here who this is. Why here Can we drink. Finebaum show. Thank you for listening to the Paul Finebaum Show podcast the Paul Finebaum show airs weekdays on the SEC network beginning at three Easter. Speaking and I need you to do me a couple of favors I could get that blueberry that rolled under the fridge last week it's throwing my functions way off sec anything bundle your home and car insurance with Geico it's easy and we could save money lastly I know you're thinking of painting the nursery back to off white but I'm actually feeling this baby blue didn't think it was my color but I m pulling it off Geico for bundling made easy go to GEICO DOT com today. Right now, making informed decisions is more important than ever especially when deciding when to return to the workplace and how to do it safely. 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Paul is the phone number. Let's Let's take some phone calls right now hold in from Texas thanks for joining Peter Burns and Roman Harper. What's up man? Hey. How are you? Good good. All right though for Auburn going to Alabama and Georgia this year how do y'all feel about that with the fan? You know I it's interesting because you know now and thank you for the phone call Olen. How much different is that going to be because Chris during and I were talking about on the show. This morning is that a benefit for the senior laden teams that can create their own juice or an opportunity for teams that like Auburn maybe they don't have quite as much talent as Georgia Order Alabama this year, but then they can catch them without. Fans going crazy. I, think for the way team does help in I. Always. We always talked about this. When I play defense was you you took advantage of the home crowd. So whenever you at the home crowd and it was so loud that it will allow our defense line and get a really good jump on the snap because they couldn't go. On second sound everybody had gone silent count. So defensively, you had an advantage, you take that out of the way now. So now everybody has to use hand signals. We've got to be able to communicate, and we saw the college teams that use all the all the kind of different signs and everything like that. It's a lot different type of game but. I do think that it. You lose advantage of the home crowd but overall Auburn's just not as they are so far when it comes to talent when it comes to Alabama Georgia this year it is interesting. The reason why you say that is that because of losing brown losing all the guys on on on the on the front. On. The front end on both sides offensive line and Defensive Line I. Mean Auburn had gained changes upfront last year, and now you look J. Britain. The middle is now Able to get to that second level. Excuse me and block him. Are they GONNA NOT GONNA be able to run free because everybody took you know Brown took two guys all day long I mean listen they played what it was like Marlon Davidson another guy that took one or two guys. To. Shoot the biggest game of last year because they played that three seven one, they were able to get that pressure in in float everybody back into coverage as opposed to just having to play a normal almost everybody else's play. lsu and nickel and diamond Joe burrowed may millions often yeah. Just eaten them up and look Joe Offense last year you can't say enough things about this a no, we're really focused on. Auburn but Joe Burnett that offense was absolutely amazing. Any knew where to. Go with the football he was so smart and that's why I'm interested to see what Miles Brennan. is going to be able to do for the lsu tigers. We'll talk about that a little bit more those of Your Voice I, listen I think everybody wants a write off Lsu right now but I'm like you got to Belinda cough award winner and Jomar Chase you got terrence Marshall still there you have Eric Gilbert the the guys like seven foot nine they said he is. He's a boss and you still got great running backs that you've seen before, and now you're adding Bopha on defense think everybody's sleeping on Lsu a little bit this year including you i. Am I'm totally sleep on them totally like I'll wake. You know we'll get their sleep. Like. I said, I'm going to say. You're the guy who played. NFL for this and I'm the Guy Peter Burns it'd be like, don't worry. I'll tell you what's going. Over on the is there a team right now go into this next hour that that you circling you're like I'm intrigued I don't really know what they're gonNa do right now but this is the most intriguing team. Kentucky wildcats because they have a quarterback Terry Wilson is explosive with the football. I think he would be an improved passer and he has a big play waiting to happen lightning in a bottle and if he gets through the secondary, it's gone. So that would good solid defense. They got a great secondary They're always been tough upfront offensively and defensively. They're just a hard nose team and it's GONNA be tough. They're gonNa make you everything and you got a lot of guys that have played a lot of ball there in that matters especially with no crowds listen landed that office of line is going GonNa be. Great. Touchdown Terry Wilson is going to be fantastic. I cannot wait to get in touch with him we in fact, he's going to be on on air with us a little bit later today and we're going to have them at the top of the hour and about in about five minutes for overall debt mentality that Mark Stoops has brought to Kentucky I almost felt like the first couple of years and when he got there is a lot of that air raid offense. It almost felt like, hey, I need to trick people to win and If I go out I'M GONNA, go out my own way in. That's going to be kind of just tough bully ball. You know get athletic they did that would Benny Snell they did that with Josh Allen on the defense side and I think that is starting to make people responded this I. think that is the game plan going forward for Kentucky you gotTa Get, Big Physical Muller's upfront and you're going to really try and fourche an impose your will on guys and doing. It the other way you can't sit up here spread people out and all these other things especially with the quarterback situation that you have. Until you get the quarterback to run that type of offense, you have to know what's works for you and nothing Kentucky does a great job of that I was. So looking forward to seeing Terry Wilson last year, and we saw him play two games and guess what he is waving the camera you're joining the Paul Finebaum show coming up next. Listening to. Paul. FINEBAUM show podcast.

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PART 1: Dick Powell, Brad Cox

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PART 1: Dick Powell, Brad Cox

"Sirius xm ports loons we can interview where he will do very good race fans serious to nineteen xm two oh one sports zone tonight sixty four you're listening to sirius xm online and on our website to see beck dot com i feel like myself in the family were whereabout is lucky as lucky is giving me with the wedding i because the window of of absolutely gorgeous a day's came to an and abrupt end pouring here upstate new york so over at saratoga where the main track is now open for training and of course they activities on they oklahoma and out out on the turf in the middle of the infield and only oklahoma course preparations you see daily over through saratoga yesterday and it's it's always it's always kind of fun watching everything come alive and that includes a lot a lot of yard work i saw them over on the face except in sales grounds you're getting ready to get the barnes inhabited in a few weeks it's closer than you think somebody it's scary actually pulled up the calendar started filling in things ready is like the one one after another so summer racing season the inching closer does include finishing up at at belmont can't get the andy today but mike beer is gonna join us and the belmont action tomorrow five hundred thousand dollar three day carryover if looks like a at approachable sequence so kind of looking forward to beers thoughts i gave it a run through with the peop pees on sunday night and then with further added third round figure goodness trying to get a handle on the ticket and of course you know at sunday for those there were playing the two day kerry over and a five hundred thousand dollar pot going into the nightcap and there were two tickets alive that would have split let the pot had what ended up happening of course is that greg but taste a little brother do good paul son of jack came through at a at a monster price turns back i mean just just just wins to carry the the pick six pool into tomorrow so be appeal of of the two dollar pick six will be on display the more you gotta figure width within forty eight hours thirty whatever it is sixty hours between sunday day in tomorrow got a trade they figure three and a half three and a half times probably let's let's say three and a half times which actually we had it before that he's he's he's the greatest that statistically and when it comes to the new merrick's so five hundred thousand figure another million at least a million to at least two and a half times maybe three times so it's gonna be a big pot tomorrow and it looks like approachable sequence and then of course will also be awaiting this weekend's slate of action on the when it comes to the draws but we still got plenty the wrap up from this past weekend and will do some of that this morning certainly brad cox is gonna join us i said yesterday brad was traveling so we couldn't get his feedback in reaction to owen dale's ohio derby win see what his thoughts were you know john white was asking yesterday so will talk to brad will talk the dick powell and and a look at what's going on at presque isle as well as get dick's a final reaction to everything that ask it given that we talked to him a couple of times last week so you know speaking of by the way speaking of statistics and the numbers you know yesterday to things a from it'd be opening just sort of free association thought about the the way a they meet at santa anita started and then went a in so many awful directions and then concluded a comic reviews a pre so appreciate mcgreevy joining us and then you're yesterday afternoon a year serious had asked about you know they they they said the the request if i go and pat mars patrick mars show late afternoon and then i did an if we had more they we'd we'd had less if they play specific cause and effect discussion then we did more of an esoteric a kind of a you know overview an you know one of the things i i felt compelled to the offer is the way in which so much of of what transpired in and then you know most obviously the last couple of days with jerry holland or being used as i as a scapegoat a it occurred to me that i stated that so much of you know of v discussion from outside and not just outside but particularly outside the industry is just the is being sensationalized been distorted and that includes upon further examination and i'm not done with this and i'm not a un epidemiologist or or statistician but i could i could do some simple math and it it it occurred to me after that conversation last night and then again this morning 'cause i made the suggestion yesterday and i heard this morning on the replay you know i heard one of the things that i said a about v averages about the volume of of jerry hall door for his barn ed i just started this it probably about seven o'clock and so i've got more to do but i could tell you that and i didn't even include december twenty six the opening of the meets the golden the gate and santa nita i only did this from the start of the calendar year so there's there's even some numbers i could add in from the end of last year but it's what is it five days six days not even so from january first until the end of of santa nita and there are a couple of starts in here from outside california's i told you yesterday you know the handful full of starts by brill and got laying and it's the grand in shiver me timbers at cetera maybe like ten the most outside of the two stronach tracks but jerry holland or effort has made a total they gotta go back to my notes a hundred and twenty seven different starters for the holland or for barring this we're making three hundred and seventy three starts end when these when these kinds of numbers or you know were added up you have to include the workouts because the workouts are is tony blacks the expression is they you know athletic event dead and in fact the chris rasi who does a lot of stats he he includes the workout numbers and so what a horse goes out and is gonna drill a half a mile or five eighths that that's that's like a race a fact so you start adding in the workouts of the horses official workouts and i'm i'm gonna go through all hundred and twenty seven horses an add them up but i could tell you that if you were to take the hundred and twenty seven horses and of course some of them were claimed horses that came into the barn and then worth their long but other horses left the barn and they were they were very very science if you were to assume over the five plus months january the early june that each horse worked once a week where the four times over that period that's twenty seven twenty eight hundred workouts plus almost four hundred starts so over three thousand race track exertions any industry average for the talent he says is to per thousand starts well given the volume of of horses at the holland or four trains the typically a hundred at any one time which is not it's not as big as some of the biggest barnes and it's not small somewhere in between well the three thousand efforts times to that that would be six incidents and he's had six incidents since the beginning of the year one a month i mean statistically i i don't sense sense that and i'll i'll confirmed this i'm i'm gonna go through all hundred and twenty seven horses that he started this year and add up how many workouts they've had adam to the starts but the outrage the selective outrage on so many levels about everything that's gone on is is really galling without any yeah statistical support of sixty six source so yeah six sources if they if if if two horses per thousand go wrong well three thousand efforts times to is six i it it it these exact appropriate numbers based on statistical analysis this is at least loosely and i'll i if i'm if i'm off a i'll i'll tell you tomorrow is too many things you know there's too much work here to do it i couldn't do it all this morning but it it it it kind of feels like that that that's exactly the number that you know based on the volume that you're gonna get that that's what it is industry why i but but let's pick out jerry jerry hall door for an end humiliate and impugn his reputation because it's convenient to are ongoing efforts to deflect from are own ineptitude as a racetrack management organization and i and the fact that that this is a bad but particularly irksome in all of this is the goalie and we and and they they the very quick to jump aboard mentality of any number of agenda monitors in water terriers hey eight constant reminder asterisk every single discussion about anything that's come out of the santa anita witter needs to be that the conditions were created by track management period i'll do the rest of this work i mean unfairness nothing bothers me more then people being treated unfairly nothing the music comes at a good time am i don't wanna get any more noise then i am we will work with i'm looking forward of beers visit weaken hit this pick six tomorrow that'll that'll lip everybody spirits a yeah i i tell you the the the thing that the thing that should be that should be bothering me more than anything is is the thirty to twenty i missed on hollywood girl i i did i ever i gotta send a note to the judge sheriff's though because you know what you call me see this and you know it's my fault because this is where you have the tools as you have have they the stalls the the staple male i mean stable mail you know that so many of you were so good at it when when you hear traders disgust horses nobody nobody nobody's better habits that are may have spoken joma kay ivey joe joe says screen captures after a worse wins nine months later joe joe puts on facebook or twitter his his notes from you know from from shook mcgahey saying last july but he was excited about you know whoever you know it's amazing think fans were one of the ladies secret a saturday that's my own fault for not putting hollywood girl in the stable bell 'cause even though we were coming back from the wedding i still got the better i mean they have an action race didn't go off until sometime the race go off went off at almost nine o'clock five fifty nine lead at nine o'clock of course i've actually seen it i fall asleep by nine o'clock truth be told so there we go all right we'll take a break here at we've got the power we've got brad cox this hour then mike beer and much much more to that the backup the who witnessed feedback on sirius xm radio six summer is one of the best times for serious horse players don't bet they're racist saratoga del mar are in full swing along with the other top tracks like gulfstream in laurel end express bet puts them all at your fingertips plus express bet customers can play an exclusive tournaments and promotions the summertime new customers get five hundred dollars sign on bonus visit express bet dot com today must be eighteen years or older and only one years in turn to open an account with express bet in rhythm sabres such activities legal 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dot edu slash equine where'd you need biggest stories in the apple racist cereals no no no it doesn't matter the very broad based dot com you do you want that will not i do well hey i yeah no no no backup of races twenty minutes could save some of this stuff a for a little bit and a i should mention a while i'm thinking of it even though i hit a yeah we're not gonna have any i guess i could bring it up later with a with mike beer the depending if mike played thee belmont pick a five a cross country but it it paid handsomely again and certainly it wasn't a challenge to come up with the two winters in in new york jack the cat was i guess jack the cat was a little tricky a five to one that was they they albert trendy franny at the upper twenties become he he's he's like the turf is like a church special is now a said that before but the cross country pick five paid ninety almost ninety two hundred ninety one eighty six an the seventh a peak mr philly a the one the starter for tom morley a in vint lowery racing it was it was a two to one favorite and so you know the the the monmouth races that they've made a tricky will do some more the mom if i also wanna get to canterbury 'cause the one the one set of snakes we really didn't talk about was what went on out there with the mystic lake derby and the mile and the makers ramsey kitten winter faraway kitten orlando mojica as the favorite takes the the derby but there was a nice nice set of races will talk about that happy the sierra heisman with a nice winter should reach out they have no brag just the fact that this was in the mile factor coat that from louisiana connections so couple of others to the other lady canterbury in the dark star will go over all that stuff but right now i got dick powell standing by dick the morning good morning steve i feel better i did this weekend i've done a lot yesterday and my doctor explained to me on friday that the reason why my team goes up and down is that's taken energy away from the body heal so the last few days robbing a bank but yeah the less stress the pancreas the better it's gonna hill and the better your energy level it's gonna be a column i'm kind of up and down all over the place and it's not i was normal so i'm kind of pushing pick up some level of fitness which six days and play it back about fitness and then you know i do stuff relax china get ready for upcoming they even make the puck allowed to my seat a yeah on better good good deer and well of course you know you're somebody else that i i imagine you know given at least the beginning part of the meat you'll appreciate you know the five days a you know somebody you know you up v analysis for a british that for the reason that selections and you know the six day a week is a taxing you know not not just you know it's not just six days either i mean it's invariably ten raises a day certainly certainly averaging ten races and in in many days you know eight nine ten horses a race and so it's you know it's intense and so i think that extra day free is a i keep telling everybody this dick who asked how's it going what's it gonna be like said you're gonna love it because it's gonna take you know the the fuck off of everybody's neck yeah no doubt now the racket i don't go don't selections anymore someone else how okay okay ice cream calling turn it up a notch or not but be extra day will just breathe a little bit yeah exactly and and let me let me titus some tori alaska what one thing that works great at royal ascot is sex racism day they start at two thirty they finish at five thirty you can go have lunch incumbent attract enough lunch plenty of time you watch the races you've been state after the race but it's all bad betting occurs six races a day and that results in huge feels which the better say they want but if you're gonna run eleven twelve on a weekend and and make people show up early 'cause a lot of times these people reserve table you gotta beat up by one o'clock keep the table so you their lunch and next thing you know ratings have been because of you still got three races the goal at five o'clock so i've i've never liked that and i go back to one saratoga used to open up at one thirty and people in albany state workers had plenty of time they get up there and catch entire card and it's just and tops on top of the days get longer okay that's that's a fact now to do that six days a week of just over the top so five days a week while at least give you a little bit of rats enable you the analyze the markets you can kind of take a day and go back over the previous week and see what happened then you know check things out and stuff like that so just for everyone's mental health including the backstretch workers they only get one day off and and people don't realize what racing does to the dizziness yes they're training every day you're finishing up the pen given bats doing stuff and by eleven twelve o'clock you're pretty much done launch evening keith stuff like that that tall and a so i think i think those people among everyone should be at the top of the list benefit the most from the two and a course one day the mondays and tuesdays will still be you know days of training and you still gotta look after but they will they afternoons will be that much more relaxed the so you know it's funny you talk about the one thirties start and i a i'm gonna i'm gonna guess on the time but i believe i need i need a jumper out of this for for many years monmouth started i believe at two o'clock either two or two thirty and that was so that amory haskell could play golf in the morning then google home shower here or or or shower at the club and then get to the track got plenty of time for the start of the card as so some of those start times were determined that it is very interesting reasons but i i'm pretty sure tour to thirtieth at the mamas so the name where he could could get his eighteen holes in every day at what what makes what makes it worse familias i'm the person cannot walk into a movie started thirty seconds ago that's funny i i have i have to be there before her right my major thing going on but i can't get the i just don't go to the track in the middle of the cart i don't care what the first right on that funny that's funny that is i i wish i could do that these days it's hard when i do the show from home it's almost impossible and a you know that that part a a you know has become more difficult but i completely understand that it's funny you say that about the movies it it makes tina crazy that i you know for running late i'll be like i i i'm not gonna i'm not going it like woody allen and it it is that any hall where the sorrow in the petty even though he's seen it fifty times scott what do you wanna do three hours waiting for the next show so that wasn't eddie certainly moment what the jack you're asking let's get the ask it i i had a delight at the get nickel lock into recap and you're thoughts on on what we saw in what a you took away from it well the the race thing was very ground dependence that heavy rain that started on tuesdays tuesdays continued all through wednesday just made the track number one very slow but number two it did not help horses coming from behind no my take on it yet they could not get the flooding flooding it's not like no it's not the push button type pause that settles relaxes and then the writer assets go when you ask if they go they start spinning their wheels they have to have that momentum or ready and i thought frankie obviously took advantage of those conditions better than anyone 'cause frankie was always the first one to make his move in the stretch and he just made the league gutted it out and the one racers kinda swerving all over the place but he had the lady every right to do that and and so it just shows you when when you when you think of turf racing man you better you better know next time you handicap what the ground was like and somebody influences just hated it didn't fire some thrived on a the times were extremely slow and then as the week went on and we got permanent permanent right up until saturday a the racist seemed to be a little more fair in terms of running style of being able to win so i thought that i thought that was interrupting watching all the racism saying i'm pretty close to hear what the coverage a that was a big big issue and i felt bad for you know people that ship and wesley goes all the way over putin doesn't get the ground he wants and not just scratched the american pharaoh or some stuff like that that's that's tough but that's all for paraphrasing see it on their money track the horse doesn't like it the derby said what tracks many times recently purchased if justin x factor that has a big big play on the races whatever when you think back on if you knew going in what the track what's gonna be like in terms of very testing ground will then you'd have to expect a see the stars have the big me could see the stars is a good source of stamina as anyone out there and he had to group one one is i think he had a group to wanna oh he had a spectacular accurate made as they get a layoff galileo's two groups one one is the testing ground just made it very tough a on on the riders and underwriters tactics because they had to be aggressive when you would think you'd have to be patient and save all your energy for that stretch drive a little bit up till now we enjoyed it immensely it in i know some people seem to find it a big shoulder shrug and have no interest but a i i think it's i suppose because we get to listen to the races and and do build up in and you know because we've developed a relationship with with nick walk in and other a you know others that a visit regularly the you know the have real interest in in international scene a but i you know given given what wesley wards accomplished in any interest level a to me it's it's really engaging so i don't and i i think the majority of of people that have an interest in the game enjoy it as well i i i will get your feedback i i didn't press this with the with neck maybe i should have yesterday a but i did mentioned it in passing with johnny v v accomplishment of tap and becomes the larger and larger with with each passing year as the deck i mean i the more you owe the more you think about it and and watch the international campaigners you know try to do certain things a at at this particular stand or you know others that are of the same ilk you realize that was a monumental accomplishment yes she she was just dominant other one was a lady or real you little was similar and a you know when you go and you get the right grounding and you get the circumstance not usually what's happening vantage because they break so wealth and the gay big cloud and feels works advantage and get out and avoid all that and a half and captain so spectacular she was a i i went to all the pomp and circumstance which i could care less about i liked the racing an and that's all that's all i care about don't care about anything other stuff even though they're promoting it on tv i thought they did a great job with nick and brittany selling in daring itv's breaks you got d i think that's that's the tv coverage including tremendous imagery of the horses won that race because it's not a an oval track you gotta moving cameras will start right but that put that run on the backstretch owned swimmingly bottom and seeing seeing what's going on so that that was that was just fantastic so i like that now you would ask me about the the betting an and i did some research i don't get it done before my thursday parents but i did talk to someone friday evening and and one of the things that made it a little confusing was the that's the win place and i think squint mellows what being hosted by hong kong but they wanna bring hong kong betting which is massive into the co mingled pool not confusing paul is they kept talking about american vetting pulled there was no such thing as in america medical few betting in america you will going into this worldwide thirty country combing approved co hosted by the hong kong jockey club did some of the confusion resulted in hong kong doesn't take every pet so ben separate pools for things like at least try factors is and and some of that stuff they don't pay the we take so that was part of a dish i've read different things about doesn't pay off some stuff and and i don't quite understand that other than any even money shot over there pays you know what if not no one no one pays for six dollars here to the one that pays for dollars it's just two times to without the two dollar bet we include the two dollars six dollar so what what what's the what's the price advertise can be different and i think that might have led to some of the confusion ultimately it was a big success because getting on on money into the combing a poll 'cause you gotta remember in uk the total money is maybe ten percent of the book making the bookmakers dominate the market so towed is a very small part of uk betting so in order to make it lucrative you bring in hong kong and now you got all sorts of money in the poll which makes the polls gigantic and a not not easy tibet but just just instead of the nap and small pools where a big that approx affects the price that that was a little bit of confusion some of the questions that people raise i wasn't familiar with so i i i can't answer that but that's kind of the background that no i appreciate it because it it it was it was as it was happening and it also a not just the the price disparity the one the one really a notable a price disparity on raffled prize but also the fact that there were a couple of days where nobody could bet on the fifth race where which which was yes there there at the end in fact you could even see on the tote payout of each day i would print out a expressed that you could print out the results and so a current day in and the previous day so each day i was putting them out and i think it was i think it was was it thursday i don't have in front of me right again now but i think it was there's day in friday you couldn't get a bet they're either wednesday thursday and thursday friday you couldn't get a bed in the fifth raise the there's no mutuals an end people said severe in fact i even got some notes on twitter a the people said you know i i bet before i left and i see that i've been refunded on the fifth and that was my first alert to it and then when i at the end of the day or the next morning you know when i was getting ready for the show i printed out the the numbers and and there's the fifth with no mutuals so it it something there there's a couple of little you know ghost in the machine yeah that and then the other thing was the hong kong tote conomic type twentyfour betting on trump's some of the races where they had thirty they had neutral field which is fine but then i think it was opening day that was a terrible race with a mutual field and they were good horses in the neutral field it's kind of a random in the sense trump said no one no one took all the long shots and put him in a mutual fail it just happened that these horses fell into mutual failing i thought there were some good horses and so i i thought the mitchell rapists and they basically all scratched so i'm like well why is that than they did run up thirty run a race and they had twentyfour betting and trust andrea mitchell sealed so i i think they'll get it all worked out but it was great that you could build those polls because you just need it because uk neutral betting is not what you think francis francis all para mutual nope look like so the french kinda do it right rich split it up and that's historically what they do and that's kind what everyone wants but not always good for life in the book like is that they don't willingly give that money out so purses and fresh rack operation a squeak to do that now eat eat with each passing with each passing season of of this an end of the end of world cup in the h k i r and you know any of the big international events that get pronounced exposure in a more and more with each passing year it i think it enhances a everybody's you know understanding and you know widens the appeal of the sport in and interests a of everybody and everybody keeps learning and it is eighty it it it is a game of acquired knowledge you know it's a it's like a reverse onion you keep you keep adding layers not peeling i'm away let's turn to domestic issues in a in particular a he idee presque isle downs and what's been going on i did not get chance other than other than to acknowledge what you did last tuesday when you delivered everybody a a nice winter in a nice a pricey runner up a i didn't catch reaction be on tuesdays starting to get focused on her wedding adventure with zachary in andrea and a catch us up pick up a what's what's been interacting and when you use the brits ultimate past performances and you get the track profile in the back of each race a press kyle despite being a synthetic track and everyone has the wrong things synthetic tracks and that kind of speed improv style is a very steep segment racetrack a the numbers show at the speed by as a specially going one turn five five and a half six six and a half a it's pretty much be dominant a dirty something senator warren is a bar gates wire and stuff like that out yesterday i wanna go over country gives you a lot of examples of how the racing is what is one a couple of things morale is one free is a first for yesterday so he is caught antonio guy autos of leads down enough for me progressive on a guy auto has two and a rod allen junior had to theresa connelly had two winners yesterday but she still seven behind jerry brooks was sixteen and john bork who has nine so theresa last year leading trend leading trainer a three years ago she's still trailing a has been run as many horses jerry burke but still i think show i think that'll even itself out pretty well guy auto is the leading ride is followed by morale is scott speed is winning twenty four percent a with twentythree winning so he's in third and he's winning at a good clip and you see scott with his ohio connections to do very well with a little stable and jeff rather salvage rod allen junior has seventeen mariel pino is on the scene only sixty eight ounce but fourteen one is he's winning out of twenty one percent clip and heal properly keep that going right to the end and the meat now one of the things i did from yesterday's charts one look at each one now and what was the date of the last race because i'm always saying i'll horses on on pita are healthier sound the end ken rice more and despite ages of many of these horses 'em yesterday we had horses come back unquote these little ones twelve they dress fourteen eighteen twenty eight eighteen forty twentysix twentyone an average of twenty two days since their last start which is three weeks now where in america did we see questions come back consistently on three weeks sometimes plus an end not only doing well but but anyway so it just shows you that the kingdom doesn't fit the profile of closes like other people think it did and prince charles that every year with their track profiles a older horses exceleron we have some horses courses tonight at one sixteen times twelve times just amazing when you look at these sorts predominantly prescott lawrence would they they might take the recipe austin might run a couple of turf races the tampa bay get ready but one day here at winning no matter what age adam levine you all do real well last night my combative one while it's essentially a teacher rights with english minister a nine year old gelding good old english monitor yeah what a second rights of the meat at the age of nine against against top companies is optional claim is allowance so she age of the winners as amazing amount of wins they have over the track is amazing and considering what's going on in the general though you're racing but i'm john hope michael dickinson's phone is ringing off the hook 'cause i'm not saying it's theanswer but it is an answer especially if the training tracks and things like that take wear and tear off of course so a last night's numbers kind showdown with the horses you average wanna come back on twenty two days rest which shows we don't see very often around the country even what turf racing and stuff like that so the surface continues to sell the horses that like continues i like it and they like it for a long long time which means just staying sounds enabled the race launder in their careers so tonight is to stay and i'm not a guy did he under the card so the last tree racism if you wanna play pick three go right ahead spacex we have qualified climates not want us to lifetime i'm gonna go number three ask stacey this is a drop down in the sense that a leader on the hayes got this autzen stadium to starts back off a bit of a functioning just minutes gone gay too wide going to turns came back going to turn edit lincoln's one by thirteen today she drops in class and drops in distance tonight's race of six furlongs so stacey in maryville pino look like a the controlling speed even with the term back in distance in race number six and race seven were going to turn mile seventy optional forty claim is now one of the two i'm gonna go to the round number one crown and sugar antonio guy auto riding in darien rodriguez says a lot of speech also at the fourteenth starts six wins over the surface so she's certainly a horse for the courts had been racing on turf down in florida shift up here just smith going to wire i think the race over the surface will benefit greatly and the rail on dean guy on those kind of sand and if he does propaganda be tough the catch and third third writes in that race on the seven race number eight going up at three now i'm a lunar i'm dave marr craft has three starts this year a all against a sixty five climbing level two seconds and a win last time out all going to turns turns wild guess mariel pino backer board and up pino is stuck i thought about got a late start to his writing this year but he's twenty eight percent what twentyfive rocky mountain so area of gets to relax really nice save some energy from the stretch and i think this week and keep not not close to the pace but not fall too far back specialism post three and a get the one that so raise six we liked the three seven we'd like to won the race eight we liked the trees so let's see if we can play at three one three three light at presque isle down very nice and then looking ahead to tomorrow and thursday where's dick's selections expects at presque website but the just glancing at the cards the next couple of days a very good you gotta you got some nice open company what's a racist not not enormous fields quality animals and a then you've got some you got a nice pennsylvania bread allowance feature on thursday some kind of a fun you know big bulky claiming types or the middle of the card is well on thursday so a summer racing upon us at presque isle and you know i do have to ask about they the the the funny a situation i didn't get a chance a with the somewhat short week last week but going back to the win that we discussed briefly a deck last tuesday in the car voice a i got a great piece of a little tidbits from from doug salvador add a cause i ask doug about jeff's garrett and you know the the jeff's garrett is really just started training the last year plus and he rode a user jock in in ohio and this is a horse the horse to win the steak is kind of a kind of a funny aside he he wore basically or sweatpants you had like a sweat suit outfit on because at sixteen to one he i don't think he expected at and it's funny because doug road the runner up one of the one of the jocks at the doug a has the book and less than perfect one second kevin rice it forty eight to one an when when kevin told the doug that he was gonna run in the steak and said you gotta be crazy got two lanes at forty eight to one but the doug said it was one of the funniest things he's ever seen here's jeff scaring the pair of sweat pants in the winner's circle firs her stay quiet as a traitor we always talk about trainers you know one of the at saratoga oh did did you see did you see what so and so's was wearing a tie today he never wears a tie they they expect to win others tried it like court said you gotta know what they want the day before and the day before or you just can't pick out you know they all thing used to be winning stevens wife's lucille would walk down the horse pets and then make a left and had to the fifty dollar window when whether they have that that big a lack of las vegas type screen up above and the monitors everywhere stuff and she would always walk them that someone would say well behind stevens she got foreigners and i thought well maybe that's maybe that's more everytime you don't know if that's what then are above pars you gotta you gotta follow it anyways the figure that one talk talk about anecdotal evidence you need a context exactly when i love it i love it well there there was a quick start shopping years ago there was a two year old race an i think it was eric keough scratched and todd got into the race and todd won the race so naturally everyone's so men got out the lead todd and and stuff like that and and someone i know mentioned the todd said did you see me trust in the winter circle totta jeans on you know what's not the one that usual potty and have any other horses that say it's even find out who's rice until morning so so it's like everyone's everyone's making assumptions solid pod before the right oh god doesn't like this one is not even dressed up as he was and it had nothing to do with nothing to do but everyone takes these bats thoughts threatened spreading through like a a collection of stop and i was completely wrong yeah exactly exactly it's it is only who could i think of a you might think of that was all well dominic dominic lucio dominic dominic would with with the the the pink jack at the yellow the purple the the the greener the red he had he had the greatest a sip particularly saratoga the that yeah i love it that jimmy jimmy when jimmy bond was that like royal blue yes yes yes yes actually a really good spot well and you know i wanna get to jimmy because of course he he won the yeah that crazy story with a two year old a winning that stake a on the sunday but it was also a big weekend for the bond family a which is the sons got married with the kennel i i don't know i think it's kevin at one of the two i know i skip was going skeptics name was on his way and the 'cause we were going he skipped called me and we were on her way the hamilton kept going to the wet our wedding and a with zachary in andrea and he said he was going to the bond wedding so so congratulations to the bonds there you go back a i appreciate are we talking thursday that's well all right well we have hong kong very good will do some kind chat as we wind down and of course were off next week so a we've got the are or summer or summer holiday a has worked so well all right troy vaga authors of foul everybody presque isle downs expects let's take a timeout somewhat ashley where it's pretty much a top of the hour but let me get brad cox in here next will talk about the ohio derby will find out what he thinks about coffee and and her a rather back to earth performance a a in the rocks lana on saturday and what you know what it means for the rest of the summer so look at update on that end more than my dear is gonna join us from the daily racing form will do be five hundred thousand dollar pick six sequence tomorrow at belmont and i i think i'd better check the weather to i were on the break and see what that looks like a given what we've got here today because the sequence does have whereas when i do with my set of fees that's thursday for goodness thanks i'll tell you there it is right there and the sequence in question starts in the third inning turf yeah a forty claimer then we go to the wider course for first level allowance and they resent mto there's two mto 's in that first leg then the third leg is is also turf in fact that everything but they six race is on the turf so so a let's i'm gonna take the break in and as we get into the visit with mike will see what we expect a if if this sequence sequence gets chopped up by by off the turf and a that might that might be a concern a we also gonna talk the allen forming an allen is gonna join us at eleven he's in lexington and eddie usa equestrian stream foundation a get together an allen is gonna dress like a couple of different topics most notably a older and horsemen writes a when it comes to a situation like we her have encountered over the weekend will also get a couple of other topics 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of course brad said the only jail up to this'll down an it if you didn't see the derby and i couldn't see it live 'cause we're i you know we're involved in the wedding but a started the review everything on on sunday it was a terrific race it really was was pretty entertaining might have been a little took too good to close the river river brad liking congratulations delicious i wanna say thank you very much have a good weekend for ellendale like you said as well too exciting but he he did get there is a good dinner very big effort you know five hundred thousand and i we we did remark and i i'm sure you were surprises anybody you know you you obviously review you know they opportunities when it comes to the you know these regional three year old exclusive races and have been doing it for a while now i was surprised that it just didn't attract more more bodies yeah i mean you know obviously a global campaign being a scratch took a little bit of a you know a star child the race i guess you'd say i mean i thought he was gonna be one of the top you you know he's definitely one of the top contender with him being late scratch mean it looked like a good spot for five hundred thousand dollars and you know just seems like a lot of people were pointing for a high school obviously the russians at a what the jim dandy a the travers is well so just thought this region of the country that are horse right now in a big race cindy on preakness and you know we don't feel like we have to go out there and you know having get ready i'm ready but you know just the greatest fire on all cylinders at all times and and he he you know he he ran big deal it i thought he did struggle a little bit with the track went up the box on the jock made that comment but he was able to you know shows class and get there i get it get it there when it counted coming out talk about the period of time between the preakness and now and what a you know what you look for how much the preakness effort took out of him and and you know what what the mindset is when you've got three year old at this time of year you're coming off of a classic placement and you know what kind of mechanics go into the you know the next steps of part of the previous a you know we just kind of watched in you know energy level it's wait 'em and look for all those things you know moving forward you know we entertain the idea of running back in the belmont 'em you just kinda thought actress weaker so maybe ten days or so we just thought you know where he was his training way he looks not bad you know maybe just a touch lights a back in three weeks doing a mile and a half now and then we you know obviously the next the next up spot on the counter with phil hall dark and we you know we we know and we heard it was coming up somewhat light a farce numbers go not a big deal you know we we thought we would a a a give it a shot you know surgeries back in the preakness with a decent breeze the second work back we were looking for a decent workout at the track less money and he really hatred that morning the churchill so i just kind of thought to myself you know i'm gonna wait for the slap breeze before the race and kind of see how he he he's moving how how how does it gallup's out and that we saw what we want it so so we said you know let's let's go where were they were ready in a let's see what happens in meal how there'll be some parts moving forward and you know picking a race you know you just like any other horse really a in any other division you just you know making sure you're horses moving right away good and you know the energy level i mean you know with these three year olds move shipped in you know jumping on planes get on vange moving across around the country i mean it's very stressful and then you know people say you know that it seems like every weekend another good through europe falls off the map and you know it's very very hard on him i mean you know we lost warriors charge a i'm a week or two ago a with a with a college which is you know obviously not injury but they they do they do have have trouble well of course they got me very fortunate to get through this three up to the point well taken as would be you know the stress level then the you know the shipping not you know not every horse so horses a particular earlier creatures of habit and they've got you know their their immediate environment the the there's a real sense of security and you know you talk about weight and and the stress a you know they'll they'll frat the not eat the you get that you get stall walkers when it comes to weight actually do you do you have the scale now you're just fold up i do not know now i do not always gonna try doing visually just kind of look at um you know look at him today air to after we breeze on a on the road watching jog just kinda examined their weight just a a but no i do not i do not do not wait now and the you know you can you could see a you know when when you hear when you hear paddock commentators talk about you know where's getting tucked up a leader that it's one thing the they get where's the beef fit and they got little valley a maybe over the winter when they they come off the farm but then you could also particularly you know the triple crown season you know all of a sudden you see one that the as you know not just lost weight but you know is is completely talked up i mean you could see right up underneath the and and that's i hear that the you know when when i a trainer that not it's not trained her speak it's you know it's a legitimate it's a legitimate explanation that that horses is lost too much weight needs to be backed off from right right so what do whether you're looking for it because yesterday a john white extolling the virtues of owen dale and he was all excited and he he he's listening now i'm sure and so he wants to know if you're gonna if you're gonna look at something like the haskell or if you're gonna you know basically take some more paths of less resistance but i think we're gonna step up i think are neck and neck race will be be a grade one somewhere a hassle the travers i guess we could look at the gym indiana had a great one but it should be a great one field but you know what look at one of those three i think you know just thinking out loud right now well you know in once again you know we we not got the source back to the track he seemed to bounce out of racing pre shaped so i'm happy where yet that's where we are with some short sound this goes in his physical being so you know i think well it will take a swing for the fences next time and you know you know hopefully win one of these racist it could maybe possibly making the stallion prospect a and i guess he's a stabbing prospect now but i mean if you can obviously knock out the travers haskell he would decide so it'd be something it will be big for the jump up and and you know he he's he's been declining for the last four or five years very very patient and not a much bigger job and it's a he's he's definitely seeing the awards patients with owned as winning big arming he sees a nice orson gyms a great point well that a two hundred thousand dollar you're rolling and you talk about stallion potential a these mischief he's had a burning dini near aspen light andy is everything from that standpoint is there the bigger opportunity you gotta feel for the second half of the years the makeup of the three year old champion why why is he why would you not be a candidate no absolutely you know i think he put himself in the picture and if he could knock out one you know a couple i think it take more of the morning but if you're knock out couple of great one somehow some way through the summer and the fall yeah i think he definitely be in the race the champion three road in obviously depends on what everyone else does but it's a race it looks like it's pretty wide open right now so yeah but yeah i mean i really do think this of course could be a really good for i mean i think it's gonna be better as the year goes on so that a couple of times and he just seems to really be hitting on all gears and all cylinders right now but i really do think he's a horse it's you know just starting to figure it out over the last you know for five months and you know could could get better down the road with mature he's a big strong or something there's a lot of it and he he he he definitely looks like a horse that you know what what obviously pedigree thunder team airship you better go on and on you know even as a four year maybe a bigger better stronger faster horse well the the one the one thing i mean it's hard not to marvel at a looking at at what he's done so far this year it's pretty tough not to go back to the risen star an and look at this list a war of well country house a raw land was third will and will leave it to amos the you know did get some more lauded for him that high creek council mr mr monday owing dale a even dumps the other day was was a third the in in the in the mystic lake a plus parfait people may forget that then he turned around the dubai and won a so that that that was something that you wanna talk key race brad risen star sounds like a great one right believable yeah solid group horses no doubt a crazy and i'll tell you once again i mean i think that goes back to that racetrack down there at the fairgrounds i mean it's it's a fantastic place the winter horses a single do really well down there and i mean i go back amount of money girl i mean you know the campaign she put together last year and eighteen in around all season started right there a you know it's it's a fantastic place to get a base and the foundation on a horse and i think that's just proof right there that you know just look at the risen star example well since since you brought her up i i i've gotta have asked the question is is this you're gonna make her her twenty nineteen debut in november at fairgrounds well i tell you what that as of right now i think she's gonna be back in a barn at churchill in about two weeks now i know you know as far as you know race obviously no idea no clue no no i'm very excited to get her back honestly can't wait i'm ready raw will have her her stole ready for her and start making a baby steps or getting back to the races and she'll let us know i don't think she'll take long get ready she says she lives near she's getting close to she's gonna rally ready very fact this winter when she she had her step back and give her plenty of time she looks like a million dollars and she she's a coach great still over winstar and she should be back in about two weeks so everything very very positive with her and i think hopefully will have a good for a great call is hurting you know bullet in the two thousand twenty excellent all right so modern white girl fans you start you start to get excited and start to watch a the work tab and you know maybe maybe something will say i'm not gonna make any i i i'm not gonna put words in your mouth let's talk about i guess will do this based on a level of a of a accomplishment and so let's jump rather than talk about the nice new york read when i i wanna ask you about coffee and he used seemed it seemed during the week like you were kind of a twist in between i i got i got the sense that you have the same way the jason service was was seemingly a little uncertain about running maximum security in that pegasus not then he turns out that he didn't run badly at all he got beat by a horse that was laying in wait you seemed uncertain about whether you should wait with five feet or runner now let me talk what when did the decision and then evaluate the performance the bottom line was we were pointing for the race 'em we heard him mischief tommy 'em it kinda got it off the race i mean that's what she's a great winter be marriage going seven nights a she's unbelievable mayor a mixture that is so i kinda got author writes a little bit but you know i talk without police and and you know i went back and forth with him about it as far as you know look at it you know get it on something else let's go straight to the test thought about that he knows the week when she was moving great she's doing extremely well i mean there wasn't a whole lot of wasn't gonna do anything different with hers for training are leading up to the rock salon if misusing the racer was not so i thought it would be a good opportunity to get a race center did have a little fear drawn inside which sicily's obviously drone inside i think three out of four four out of five star she's made a she's always stuck down inside it seems like how winning the race let's let's let's center i talked alex in entering a pep talk him into it but we agreed listener let's take a look at it kinda feel like if she jersey inside like i said we make scratch 'em you know and there were some concern with the race track sparse the rain we got that morning a you know i i dunno i don't regret taking the opportunity sean did a good job maybe wanna touch quick early but she was being crushed the whole way i mean it was a tough asper through europe silly run against insect group of horses are being pressed about a horse sunny outside i think he's the series series she has a serious still i don't i don't think she has a whole lot to prove what she did how mccomb what she's done in his first start mushy dinner third start a keen like she's a serious philly i think when we get her back against three year olds hopefully saratoga going seven nights in the test a you know shoot hopefully we can get a little bit softer trip up front will have a little more punch it in but she she's a nice philly and i don't regret taking the shot and very proud of her she did accept the race in great shape so so i think you know onto the trip on the half and will will see what happens very good all right they can't you could only you could only reactive to what they do what they do plenty of you know plenty of chatter that the regression shouldn't have been a surprise i mean off of an effort like we saw in baltimore yeah yeah yeah no doubt i mean you know it was it was a free grace in baltimore and think then you know she's gonna run that race every time i i i don't know you know the probably not gonna be the case she showed that on saturday but you know if he can get somewhere between what she did this past saturday in moscow a just somewhere in between there i think she's got a really big shot in try arden the test i should say things in the in the tech well and that's the big prize i mean i i know some people said oh you should go victory ride but the prize here is the test it's the great yeah that's that's another thing that went into the you know what's hurting stay would have churchill we feel comfortable having her their trainers are aligned on her there you know we would have the banner the new york finger back to churchill it's a trainer for the test is what i wanna do a that's just my comfort zone churchill in spurts bring her back back and then happy go back to new york upstate new york has another band rod another ship a i'm not a week left between racist as far as the timing goes we just thought everything was a lot easier to leave it right there on her own stock churchill as opposed going to new york twice over the next month to well in addition to the high profile winters and and in this case a third place finish in these rocks lana a you also had a nice a nice win from the new york bread a and and talk about talk about frosty is kind of a little kid is frosty and this is the stallion the series but it still seems promising yeah not see it with but it was a big effort from her she now has been very consistent all winter in new york the silly we had this philly last year after kelly metro out of dallas texas great guy great clients on another one that just kind of let you do you're saying he's just he's been good to me a yeah i mean she start last spring spring she had some issues center home scott young got her going at remington 'em and she came back to us in new york in a yeah she's been altered consistent super super pleased with her and she took to the grass and breeze you're a couple of times on the turf up there belmont you know preparing for this race we didn't really know she liked the grass but you know she took to it was great i thought it was a big big advantage a breeder a couple of times on the turf up there worked out well seem to be moving well over it so we thought we'd take a shot i read did a great job roger and they will get their little bit of a surprise and thought a m m linda silly would you know extremely tough to beat in there but we've got the jump on her answer in a big race very pleased with that so you mentioned scott young and the explain explain the the the way things transpire on a horse like this i mean here's the new york bread that that ends up you know over and over in oklahoma and yeah what what what what what's the back story i i'm i'm injury actually what what kelly metro he brings horses he's a breeder m like i said great climb out of out of the dallas area and he keeps his horses a lot of the times the young stock he'll he'll have a broken oklahoma a in a when we send her back home we actually had hurt seeming last spring training her with a bunch of other two year olds and just you know have physical she stopped on her give her the time i just think he thought you know look look keeper closer to home see if she could run a little bit she show some talent despite some ability will go to new york western that's how it worked out and thought it was a great move on his behalf hey look there's no since leaving oklahoma with a new york bread if they can't compete on the new york circuit against the new york breads obviously you know to to run his well she did against be open company she showed the she took compete what the new york red so that's what he did he decided to chipper back to us at aqua there are well aware of belmont over on at that time of year but it worked out really well and awarded she rewards in a big way on saturday on us nuts nice kid is frosty end of frost giant a that the that wins the stallion steaks and i suppose you could just take advantage of of the new york program premier absolutely i don't i think there's any doubt it'll be where she makes her money and hopefully for a couple of years the company's new york friends there you know where they got you know they they're one of the better ones that could definitely make some money there's no doubt about absolutely well let's let's hit a couple of other points in the course between churchill winding down in a guy that was part of a looming a start at saratoga as well you had explore with a nice allowance what's the other day at churchill that was also on sunday you're not yet a win from almost everywhere you you were sending him out also meadow dance allowance win that game on saturday at churchill pioneer spirit a little disappointment at evangeline mile oh yeah yeah a little bit of a rough trip i mean i don't think it's anything the jock dinner anything but just stuck brooklyn the one whole entire on the first turn he's a little bit of an in and out horse he kind of took himself out of the race around the far turn kobe kinda got after he you know he he had all opportunity really to go by their legs i just couldn't get there he's a tough hard knocking solid or so tribes every time and he's he's gonna check get her now definitely pay paid paid his way swell and speaking of the breeder owners and a some success in new york breads i saw that the ten strike marshall in in clay bread that that steam engine the other day yeah he's caught us off guard at first i thought we thought he and big and this kind of walked out of there and just never really gotten any got in position and then he he he he showed gate speedy other diaper surely size did a good job of getting out of the gate and you know just going on with no he he he he's a big effort reason i thought horsey we really thought he was gonna win first time last year at saratoga he he had a great gate work there only oklahoma training track and set up a big effort any rain back he he did run run against a nice horse voting down late and you know he's over the break is made in last you're belmont were hoping you know once again new york bread not not quite he's not stallion about new york fred stop value but being a new york red gives him an opportunity to be you know make some money over the next few years and not his style course well as we finish up at churchill and a look ahead anything you got anything this weekend you got the bash burden the debutante and the kelly's landing you involved five nothing no stakes churchill no no i think a mistake front we might be quite this weekend but then we're gonna try cranked things back up at high with the following weekend and then obviously indiana's arlington has some steaks toward the middle of april will be re hopefully a a a participating some of those who you're running in it and i were derby right wilkes a yeah we look at night ops where they are with derby and then obviously a thick exclamation point for the corn husker in a you yeah you know i think they have like six take the more you know i i can't say we're gonna have a horse in all of them but i think we have horses nominated all of 'em so we're taking a strong look at those races and hopefully be apart well excuse me 'em there was somebody else are quote what a coming out of the coming out of the two mile race what a where we gonna see are quote acts were were kinda penciled in arlington million for right now and not just kinda sums up and and i think we're gonna shortening backups amount of quarter and you know take a look taking sean look at that and then obviously credit back in kentucky downs with that cal you met up turf cup being worth a million dollars he won it last year which were seven fifty but you know obviously being worth a million dollars he has experience on the course i think that's why wasn't important thing kentucky downs at you know maybe look to defend his title down there kentucky doubts about a recall she don't get we look at diana with her she brings really well this weekend at churchill 'em in a right now i think we saw the diana saratoga see and since we talked a says we did talk about that i can't leave break even out of the conversation yeah you got a good work this weekend's she's another one we kind of were definitely points for the chat with her will see how comes up and that's that's playing right now very good i think we've we've had most of the highlights there's always there's always a few others under the surface but a the that that kept everybody busy taking notes brad day congratulations to the wraps and andy you and everybody on the nice win up at this'll down and 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Mailbag Episode: One Trade to Fix Everything; Should Kristaps Get the Ball More?; Luka & KP's Relationship; Josh Richardson + More

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Mailbag Episode: One Trade to Fix Everything; Should Kristaps Get the Ball More?; Luka & KP's Relationship; Josh Richardson + More

"Hello everyone and welcome to dallas hoops fan. Cast i'm your host sydney. And i'm here with my co host. Martin we're on the internet at dallas hoops. Cass dot com. Check out our breakdown of the second half of the mavs schedule on the site that was just posted in this episode. We're doing a listener. Mail bag episode. We were just going to do one segment but we got so many questions that were dedicating the entire episode to this. If you're listening on youtube leader questions in the comments section and i'll respond to those But for our next listener mailbag episode. If you wanna have your question in their follow me on twitter at underscore sitting myers that way. You can Respond and have your question in future episodes. But let's just go ahead and get started because we have a lot to go through. So i just thanks to everyone. Who responded these bills questions. Yeah i was. I was surprised that we did get such a good response. And some of these questions are good. And i'm really excited to talk about them so i'm going to shut up and just ask the question. The first one is from ads. Hamel go hard. The there's two questions from this person as to the first one is what is the one piece we could add to our existing roster that you guys think would make an actual make us actual contenders. Obviously you have to give up something to get something. But i'm curious to see what you think if you think whatever. This system is missing could be embodied by one player so if you had a pig one player and it sounds like he's talking about a trade since he mentions you have to give up something to get something so we'll just we'll narrow it down to traits. What's one player that you think would solve. Their problems are going to have to give a specific player. Name or type as specific player named Because there's just not. I mean there's a lot of good players out there. Obviously that would improve the team. Yeah but for me. The guy that would fit best would be klay thompson now. I know he's injured and they're not getting him. Yeah yeah so. That's why i was wondering. Is there perhaps a mold that we can build to me. They don't have a guy on the offensive end outside of luca that really puts fear into the hearts of the defense and porzingas hasn't really done that this year Really since he's been here but a person like klay thompson who you have to account for. Even joe harris honestly joe harris would have been a second alternate and much better defender. He's than he's given credit for. Its averaging fifteen points on a the guys averaging fifteen points a game on a team with kyri james harden and kevin durant so clearly. He can flat out shooting fifty one percent from three. Yeah you know. I did a piece on players maverick should target in the free agency whereas trades and joe harris was one of them and whenever you really study his game he's kind of like a poor man's klay thompson not as good but his skill set is the same. He's not as good in their skills but he has the same skills. He's does the same things. well in. And you see the loss of seth curry How it has impacted. The mavericks was such a good three point shooter that the defense has had to account for him every time he was on the court so even if he wasn't getting you fifteen twenty points just him being out there made it so much more than for the rest of the team and i think that's what they're missing this. You're hardaway is he's too. He's too streaky. You know like yeah if he gets hot off the bench. he's yeah he's green. And i don't want to be broken down that's great. Yeah so. I think a guy that puts fear into the opposing team shooting the ball. Yes oh. I think you mentioned klay thompson. We mentioned him all the time. It just anytime. We're talking about building a roster. We talked about klay thompson. Because i think he would be a perfect fit. Another guy that i think would solve a lot of their problems. Jimmy butler oh yes. Because he's also apps rape playmaker great defender. Now i know me comes to play. He's not a long range sniper but just his scoring in itself. I think is enough because you can surround them with other really good shooter. Yeah well in butler has a knack for making them when it matters. Yeah he's imply you're you don't leave but we're open yes so i would say i guess aren't available yet question realistically who is available that the mavs could put that would make this team. I think bertans is a guy that puts fear into the opposed to. I mean. i'm not saying he's an answer. I'm not saying he's klay thompson but they need a sniper from three and they don't have the sniper. Times is only a sniper though. So seth and again you see. Seth was a good playmaker. he could do that. All i'm saying is we're missing the sniper from three the guy that the opposing defenses had to account for when he was on the court. The mavericks don't have that the guys that are shooting their threes dorian maxi josh. Richardson jalen brunson. Chris and tim hardaway. So are you saying. They only need a sniper. Because in the past we've talked about how they need a playmaker. Are you saying the sniper needs. Obviously it would be great. And that's where klay thompson comes in because clay could get his own shot if you had to okay. But you're saying if you can only get one of those things it would be sniper and not playmaker is sounds like i don't know i don't know you know. The scene has so many holes has so many like obviously they need a real playmaker. But i'm just thinking about players that are actually available. Yeah where they could potentially get. They're not gonna they just don't have the pieces to get a star and a star would be jimmy butler klay thompson type of player. Yeah well okay so guys that maybe are a little more realistic. I think well okay. So jerry joe harris is signed But i did really want him to dug into his game. I was like dude. This guy he would be so great. I just want you to remember who that bug in your ear. It was me no no. It was me and i kept mentioning joe harrison. You can kiss him. And then you're like. I'm gonna do some research and then you realize joe harris was yeah so he would be a really good fit he would be the more like attainable version of the best case scenario. Yeah or we also talk. About tomorrow to rosen. Now i've heard some bad stuff about derozen. I wanna take into him little more into him and see if he really is or. Is this another. Andre drummond where it's not as good as again. I didn't mention derosier. Because i just didn't know if he was available. Yeah well i think derozen. Joe harris are more available obviously than klay thompson jimmy. Okay his so the next question that he had also do. You agree that every city edition unique. We've had so far has been total garbage. Do you think cubans the main reason the main person choosing the designs he's always had horrid tastes in my opinion Ps i've always despised. His horse. logo were long overdue for a brand refresh in general. Well okay. so i'll start. I of hated every single mavs city jersey and they've just gotten worse every year Their first year. Was i think the neon it was like just black with neon sides. In retrospect it wasn't that bad when you go from might the grief graffiti jersey. Which i hated and i looked at those. I was like you know. I didn't know how good we had it. And then the year after that they did this sort of like light. Blue logo and the grey jersey is the graffiti jersey odyssey. Everyone knows i hated that one. But i really like this year's this year's i think is one of the best in the league and i love it so i would agree that all of them have been trash except for this year. I think i'm one of the only people out there that actually liked last year's a lot of people like the graffiti wars twitter. I personally like them. And if you wanna go to war and can go to war now this is well yeah. I think the very first ones they've done where the one we had the skyline on the front was like back right. Yeah yeah yeah but anyways. Yeah i like them. They're okay none of them have been awesome and i can't really say that for any team. I haven't really liked any team. This year is has been this very definitely they are. They're awesome and it's funny because they're just simple. Yeah it's i just. I like the gold. I think they're cleaning the wings on the side. You don't like the as. Yeah the find. I'm not i can't. It's not going to be perfect. I know a lot of people do think that human is a main person behind some of the designs. And as i've heard a lot of people who want a brand refresh a lot of people want them to use their green more. But i've heard that kibben. Hey you've been doesn't like the green so he doesn't want to it. Yeah well one of the first things he did when he bought the team was getting. Yeah yeah it's still technically a part of their color pallet. i think maybe not. Because i never use it. Only when they do the retro which they only do every five years so Okay next one. This is from at risk it for d. biscuit. I hope i said that correctly. How much smoke should there be to have fire. And how much fire should there be to have smoke. That's that's the question okay. So i'm assuming we're talking about the porzingus thing and there's a lot of smoke either that or he's going to fire. I can't help you with that. But just get a fire log. Is it easy easy. But if we're talking about trade rumors with porzingis and how much smoke there is around to me. There's too much smoke. Yeah like occasionally something will come out there and it's just completely not true That story dies. Yeah but with the porzingas situation. There's just too much smoke out there and it's coming from multiple different places to me. There's a huge fire under yet all. Yeah we actually talked about that a lot in our post game road dallas whose game cast is our post game podcast last night their game against the nets how they posted up chris. Tops like twenty times and it just seemed really strange that they suddenly changed their whole philosophy and that combined with how he had been out for multiple games with like back whatever and then the rumors and then there was the thing where he didn't get the ball last night and so he was like he got upset. There were reports people that were at the game said that after kristaps got upset for not getting the ball he and carlisle went added. Had like a shouting match. Kristaps kicked a chair. Something either just like there's so many things that individual you're like calm down you know. It's nothing but you put them together. He's definitely getting traded. I don't know if he will hear. There's something there outside of luca in dirk carlisle's gonna win that. Yeah he's just he's given a free unlimited pass. He's here forever. Yes he's alive he decides he's done. Yeah and whether you agree with it or not or you agree with his coaching methods. Or whatever i i'm not gonna touch on that. The fact is second in command. Actually he is okay. Let me do so. It's cuban donny. Luca actually it's cuban. Luca danni carlisle. Yeah and then mile nothing and then it's porzingis so it's the whole situation with rondo car out. Unlike him rondos gone. Yeah i just. I do think there's too much smoke for their not to be a fighter. So yeah i. I don't wanna talk about it a ton because like i said we just spent like thirty minutes talking about it in last night's episode so you can go listen to that i'd be some subscribe to that podcast. If you wanna listen to our post game episodes okay. It sounds like you're editing that in I'd be surprised if he doesn't get traded at the trade deadline or before the trade deadline. I don't know because the mavs every year they're like we're wheeling and dealing were always opportunistic and then they do nothing because they have no well. You have nobody to treat through with the time they did have somebody to trade the gop morzine but they don't have anybody to try. Well i guess they do. Yes so okay next. This is from at oh. I can't at ads kabamba sports. This is actually a mom. Podcast will the name of the podcast is caban mavericks. Podcasts makes sense okay. The question will mavs fans apologized to. Kp get some games together and is playing great again hashtag patients. I hope so. I hope my ultimate dream is that porzingas turns into that guy. The unicorn the unicorn franchise the second star the second fiddle to luca and they become this duo. This dynamic duo and they're awesome and they win a lot of games and they're contending. That's my alternate dream. he's healthy. yeah. But i just don't see it happening. I think the way if you look at porzingas history and a lot of it is rumors around his agent brother and how they're high maintenance and to be fair like the mavericks have done a lot like. They hired his personal trainer. They brought on his His doctor his psychiatrists like all. They did everything they could. They offered him a max contract even though he hadn't been healthy. It's like what more could they do for him and yet he's still not hell well. Yeah and so in this game against the nets we gave you the ball every time down the course and then you didn't get it. Thank you for your share and yelling at like well. Good god man. Like what more do you want. Yeah and so the whole at first when the the situation with new your can come out. We blame new york because we hadn't seen that guy that new york had talked about. But we're starting to see that guy. Maybe i mean maybe he's right maybe he should be getting the ball more and you know what was crazy about that. There's a huge argument to be made that that is true because we want we've watched the mavericks and they'll go through this decision. Making where jalen and josh richardson. And tim hardaway jr and trey burke. We'll be the primary playmakers and it's like how if you're kristaps porzingis. How do you stand there and watch these guys. Turn the ball over. Shoot up a stupid shot and say hey how come. I'm not getting the ball and to be fair. He hasn't been productive when he's given the ball. But there's a huge case to be made that he should be given the ball more. Yeah i think it goes both ways. One he should get the ball and then to he needs to make the shot and really make a good play. Yeah yeah not always gonna make it but yes and sometimes neither one of those things happen. Sometimes he never gets the ball and then sometimes when he does he never makes a shot. and so it's it's both things but like like you said if he is now just great he can become that guy off all along. I want them to work it out. Yeah me too in the thing is i think. A lot of carlisle is in affecting porzingas mentally because carlyle keeps saying bad badshah badshah bad shot and every single bad shot is what porzingis does well in his mind. Yeah so every time he gets the ball and he wants to do something carlisle's in the back of his head saying no no no no and it's like that affects his play on the court now. He's just he's just he looks like he doesn't even know how to play basketball. We'll talked about how he's thinking too much. That could be why. I mean to be fair. He seven three. What is a seven three guy going to do other than an play in the post. He's not going to be running around like a guard. So i mean i can understand his side of it yes exactly. It's one hundred percent. Carlisle wants him to be a force baiser. He doesn't want to be that he wants to be in a star now again. He hasn't been great in the post. And we talked about that on the pod. Last night he was good last night but he hasn't been great in the post. However i think there are things he can do to be good there if he faces up rather than backing down. That's great but again he hasn't been consistently. I think he's better than what he shown again. I really do think carlisle his impacting him. Because when you're constantly under pressure yeah to do something that you're not really wanting to do or what. You wanted to ask instinctively. Yes and so then when you missed the shot in the the weight just gets heavier and heavier so i really do in carlisle's not an easy coach to play for. We have countless history of that. So i do think. That's impacting him. He does deserve a little bit of freedom to allow him to be who he is. Yeah i think that's just having that that little bit of freedom now luca he gets tons of freedom because he's one of the greatest players in the league. I'm not saying that. Chris tops deserves that but just maybe a little bit more and maybe if you give him freedom then he doesn't have carlisle's boys in the back of his head every time he shoots then maybe he can become that guy that we always thought and then it is productive to give him the ball on the court and let him producer. Make a play now. All that being said he has to do her. Yes he's got to deliver and he hasn't done that consistently so that is that's just melting. It's there but if he can deliver than short but that that much responsibility that comes with responsibility making those well in in. This was the point that we had talked about a long time ago about him requesting longer stretches of minutes And like you see you only get one time to request that. And at least he did deliver. Yeah there's no maybe he'll do it again but the biggest thing with me is he's got to be a star when it matters and that's what i haven't seen from him at all and now maybe if he's given a little bit of freedom and he's allowed to just be who he is maybe he'll turn back into that guy that we thought he was going to be. Okay let's move on this. One is from at alley. I'm not gonna say this right allie. Why why come i. Approach is okay. The question is merck. What are teams the mavs should be. What are the teams. The map should be avoiding in terms of first round matchups in the playoffs. I think the signs jazz blazers lakers are teams. Amass should avoid in the first round. Yeah i'm not. I don't know if they need to avoid the blazers. The mavericks have historically played well against the blazers now. Obviously if you get damian when he's having a hot series then you don't have a chance but he's only had like two of those every other series he's been trashed and he's free pass trash but anyways so i i'm not too afraid of the blazers and i'm also not afraid of the sons. I know this is beat us. But i just think that if the mavericks are fully healthy and they're clicking on all cylinders. I think they might be right up there at the same level as the sons sons are early. Enough in their roads who contention that they can still be beaten. They're not like you rarely just go from not good enough to championship. I think they could be. I just don't think. I think they're a good team. But they're just not that team like curse. Paul and devon booker are great combo. But they don't really have a whole lot of talent outside of those two and deondraye aden's okay. They have is. They can have good games. They can get in a playoff series solid. It's usually yeah it's accurate. So i i i'm okay with facing and the blazers. I'm okay with facing in the clippers. i'm okay with face. Spur of the clippers. Yeah but there. I mean they are bet. You don't think they're going to do that again. Choke in the playoffs. Lucas living out their number. He's what about the spurs they're currently now not no. I'm not afraid of the spurs at all. I don't think the spurs are very good. I know their record is is good. But i don't see them maintaining that. Yeah i would be okay with the spurs the blazers and the sun's just not the league and i'm not jazz. Yeah i'm not saying they would beat those teams. I think the mouse would probably lose. Especially if they're like a seventh or eighth seed but it's their best chance of winning. Okay next question. This is from at brent edmonson. What players do you think the mavs trade for to help us now in the future and in the future i don't know if he means like should they trade for or if he means like what's a prediction solicited. I mean it really all depends like we talked about before on the porzingas. If we're gonna assume porzingis not traded and they wanna fill their roster outside of that they have no assets. They're only main asset is jalen brunson so with brunson if another team feels like. He's a starting point guard which was great that the media is starting to hype that up. Because that's just increasing his trade value and there's a team out there that needs a point guard and has yes well but do the cooper's have any pieces that we want so it's got to be a perfect scenario. The team's gotta yeah. I mean i don't know if i'd trade brunson for a thirty two year old walker how old ivanka's and besides if you're gonna keep porzingas ivanka's kinda pointless so you would need wing depth or a secondary playmaker. That's better than brunson and can start. I was talking to a bulls guy this past week and he saw a lot of value in maxime as well as brunson. I think those two kind of had the most value to him so mattress. You maxi for zach levine. You know like it's not like they have a ton of value but just on the mass roster those two guys have the most value. What could you get for. Maxine brunson. I don't think a whole lot. But i don has more value. So what the mavericks can offer. A team is really similar to what they did. When they got porzingis they can offer a young asset. Who's actually better than dennis smith. Who and they can offer space very much of a burn. I think i don't know anyways. So they can offer a young promising player. Yeah and they can offer a whole bunch of cap space with hardaway and james johnson and josh richardson's contracts. You just got to find the perfect scenario. You gotta find the other porzingas. That's on a bad team. And they're looking to move on from them and their gm's so the problem is all the teams have players. I want they don't need cap space and they probably don't need a point guard yeah So yeah. I was talking to him. I was like well. Would you take maxine brunson for window carter junior because i think he would be a good fit and he was like now so mean guys are value but not in knowledge. Not a whole okay. Next question this is from. At lucas skywalker. Seventy seven is donnie nelson overrated by fans. Deal the front office will change. Its offseason approach from dwight tiana dwight howard to janas and all the bargain been one year contract dudes the trailed off but i mean look the whole free agency thing that they've done over the last couple of years actually since two thousand eleven has been some of the most frustrating experiences and it hasn't worked and it's embarrassing. Is it silly that they're still doing it. yes. I don't think it's donny that's poland. Those strings cuban. Yeah we just sorry go ahead. They haven't paid the luxury tax in ten years. That's not donnie. Don't care like what all that crap. i think. It has to get permission. Yeah anything that shows that cubans kind of industries and you have the example of the twenty thirteen draft. That came out and donny wanted to draft him. But cuban wanted to save five dollars and so he was hundred thousand dollars in mba. That's a nickel. Yeah you know so. He wanted to save a nickel or a dime and by saving that nickel or dime they got nobody got nobody and janas was drafted by the bucks and donny wanted him. And then in the case with luca danni had to basically forcefully according to the reports. Yeah slam his head down the tape career on. It's actually and offer the first year round. Pick for the next year because cuban wasn't really sold on a luca cuban. I love cuban. But if i really look at his history since he's bought the team he hasn't made really good decisions. The steve nash situation were never letting that no because it was the dumbest decision ever it was just dumb and then the tyson chandler situation champion on another level. Yes so. I question his decision making and he's been great and the mavericks have had a long run. But how much of that was. Just dirk cuban even said in a video. I think with g. cue that the reason they didn't draft janas was because the scouts and donny were really big on him but he was like. We didn't have hardly any footage. It was like you know these. vhs tapes in dark. jim and there was just nothing to see. And i'm like that's why you have scouts. 'cause they fly there and watch the guy and then they tell you it's like why do you pay these guys if you're not gonna listen to them. So that was ultimately his decision. He didn't listen to the people who knew what they were talking about. And again to save four hundred thousand dollars so they can go after white howard and they didn't have a chance of getting him any ways because you had nobody else on the team. Yeah so no. I think is great I think cuban has been the main culprit for the mavs failures bad decisions. I think if you give donnie nelson asks free pass. Yes no assets. He can do amazing things and before the championship when they were willing to pay the luxury tax he made moves all the time now. They didn't win a championship. But at least they were always in contention but yeah they did eventually. I mean yeah. I think donny does a great job. I just disagree with the whole free agency plan. I think it's ridiculous and hasn't worked and even if you thought it was a good idea for a few years in a row look at what point are you like. Maybe this isn't a good plan. You know yeah. I don't think that's donnie. And then do. I think that they'll move on from that plan. I just i don't. I don't know the willing to pay the luxury tax. Then that's it at some point they're going to to if they want to actually truly contain campy a good team without paid luxury tax money ball this situation and in the nba stars. You gotta have guys that make shots when they matter and get stops when they matter. You can't moneyball yes okay. Next question is from. Be truthful at being teased. Zillah guy question. I actually yesterday question. I don't doubt the mavs might be shopping. Kp only lucas truly untouchable. But is there actually a package out there that they would do it for any realistic trade targets for the mavs during the season before the deadline you had an interesting theory about the warriors. I did yes. Would you like to share it if you could remind me what that interesting so there was that whole thing where chris kristaps likes tweet by somebody who had just randomly say like welcome to the warriors because they thought he was getting traded. And he's like mine with be the warriors and chris. Tops liked that tweet and there was like video evidence. I mean it looks legit. I don't know he unliked is you can't see anymore. But he had liked it. Originally and your theory was. I think they probably had a trade ready to go. And his agent or his brother was aware of it and blah blah blah. Al came out. And then it kinda crumbled last minute and so he had to go back and unlike it. Yeah so people found out the yeah. So it's it's a theory. Now the two teams that have and i don't remember the podcasts. At wake aside inside pod. I guess they had found out or saw through. Sources that the wizards and the warriors with the main two teams at the mavericks were. Were interested in porzingus. Sense for the wizards. They're trying to keep pat bradley beal. They might be team. That will make a desperate move to keep him much like the mavericks did for luka they wanted to bring in another star So the the wizards and they have a lot of other pieces and other young and they're unproven. But it might fit for the mavericks better now the warriors. I don't know where they fit in. I don't really want andrew wiggins contract. Yeah that's what the trade. Yeah if we're in a move on from porzingas bad contract. I'd rather just start over. Start over while we still have young. Luca we still have a couple of years to rebuild. I really agree with the whole decision to get porzingas. I thought it was the right. Move to make. It just didn't work the way we wanted it to. I have no interest. In andrew wiggins warriors trade would center around andrew weakens. And he's fine. He's nine garbage. But i don't know if he really doesn't move the needle. Yeah it doesn't move the needle a wizard trade would probably send her. Well not really sent her around. Anybody think guys would be like ryuhachi. Mara mentioned in some of the somebody. That's who is mentioned on that. Which is theory yes yeah. I don't think they're getting bradley. Beal no i. Don't i don't think washington's going to move on i yeah. But if washington's desperate you might be able to gut their team and their draft picks for porzingus true and maybe turn that around for something else. Yeah you know. Unlike select thomas bryant. This year he was average detour before that he was averaging fourteen points a rise averaging thirteen i mean noth- nobody on that team really excites me. Because it's like the team sucks. Like how good can players really be. I mean even with bradley beal. I'm starting to kinda doubt a little bit because it's like they're you could make arguments stretch the argument that he's has outside of the whole porzingas stuff. You actually know it. You could make the argument. The wizards that bradley beal has a better supporting cast on luca. I mean less is better than porzingas despite all the whole noise about westbrook. Better on your court. Yeah he's just a better player and then outside of that it's a competition of dorian against rui maxi against protons. You know it's like it could go either way. I think there's a huge argument. He has a better supporting cast. And now maybe some of these guys would work. Better with luca. I don't know yeah so outside of those two teams. I just don't know yeah. I mean that's the thing like the maps are really tight lipped like we really have no idea who they've been talking now. We've heard the warriors and the wizards but other team. I would look into would be the hornets in davonte. Graham terry rozier because lamelo the way he's kind of become a pretty good player in maybe even a future star and so maybe they want to move on from rozier and porzingas kind of helps out. I would like to take rozier off their hands if they wanted to give him away. So yeah i mean. I don't know if they would. I don't know i mean why. Why would they want like if they got their their new. Maybe rose years part of those plans Yeah it's like. I said that you never really hear anything about the mavs. So any says they are a top notch. But like anything that we guess which spe- guesses like there's no rumors at this point other than that. They've talked to other teams i. I would say that if pausing doesn't play the next game due to quote unquote back tightness. Resurgence whatever i think. The whole brooklyn game was kind of a showcase game. Yeah the trade is in play. Were just waiting on something and and one thing that the guy mentioned on that pod was batons isn't eligible for trade until like march something. Oh yeah and maybe that's what they would be waiting for okay. The next question is from mark schindler from premium hoops at m schindler. Nba He has okay one or two. I don't know what are your thoughts on jay. Riches season josh richardson. Obviously he has struggled from the outside and underwhelmed offensively. He has a player option this summer. And it's just kind of murky what his future is in dallas if there is if there is one from either party Josh richardson. I think i was talking to somebody else. I don't know in lake. He's been a little disappointing. He's averaging less than thirteen points this season or maybe right at thirteen points this season. He has flashes where he can be playmaker. But it's clearly not him like that is not what he does not his skill set. His individual defense is pretty good again. You know kind of like sometimes. It's they're locked down and sometimes it's just okay. Really josh richardson. I couldn't care less what they do with him. I've been really underwhelmed as a whole. And i just i think at that guard spot. You really need that second guy that everybody talks about for the mavs and so he's just taken up that spot and saw whatever i couldn't carry out i mean. Richardson is the fifth guy. If it starter like he's really. He's the tony allen type guy. That's out there for good team for the celtics. Tony allen was her defensive lockdown guy. Yeah but that's really it like. He doesn't move the needle much. And if i had known the season was going to go the way. It's going now. I would prefer to have just kept seth. Yeah not that. Seth is like seth is only averaging. I think fifteen points but it's different kinds of points and i don't know if the defense is that much of a drop off But to be fair the maverick's defense has shown signs that it can be really good in the last four games. They've been number one in the league and sensor many all all-star break that they got for you know due to the weather here and i think he's had a huge part of that because he i know it doesn't get a lot of box score you know kind of. I can't think it doesn't get a lot of attention. But i think he's having an impact on the defensive side of the court. Yeah i think first of all just. The trade was a good idea aggressive bing. It hasn't really worked out. Obviously if i could go back in time. I would do the tree but i'm not upset that they did it. They took a good risk. And i'm okay with it now. I am upset that i think ultimately their underlying motivation was because richardson has the player option. And so is theoretically cap space. I hate that motivates all of their decisions. But if you're just looking at the the players. I you know the trade made sense. And then yeah i you know again. I just think that second that guard spot would be where you put that kind of second playmaker but you know it could also be at the wing spot where you put that second. I don't know maybe he's still fits. I don't know if we're really that's important where that guy is because once you get past. All those guys are kind of interchangeable. Yeah yeah you're right about that so But still just because he hasn't been great. I am like i'm indifferent to what they do with him. Now do i think do you think that he'll opt in to his player option. This doubt it like even if he if he just continues to have the season he's having he's still so young. You're you're going to get more money long term than you would get on this last year. Which i think would only be like ten million eleven. Yeah so i think he opts out no matter what interesting. Yeah okay okay. At mavs main did not have a two part to his. Oh yeah but the second part wasn't actually a question was i've had this on my radar for a bit from an outsider perspective. Love him as a player and locker room presence definitely interested to get your thoughts. It just hasn't had the impact. Yeah that we that we wanted and we were expecting based on based on what he thought. That's who thought we were getting. Yeah like same. Seems like a really great guy. he's always goes and plays a lot of trouble. Gives it his all. He's just not a very good player. Yeah okay okay. So this one is from at mavs. Maniac eighty four chris lopez. Mfl his question is who's on the trade bloc this time around and i responded i was like am. I picking up on some sarcasm because we're always putting people on the trade bloc but you know just assuming. This is a legit question everybody outside of luca and not not that lake. Everyone is actually being shopped. But yeah they're basically they're available. A teams can call and ask about them and say hey were willing to do this or this and the mavericks and say. Yeah but i think every single player outside of lucas available including krista abs. Yes yeah if they get the right package but one of the things that on the jump. They had marcus spears. Were marc spears. It's marcus mark. Marc spears either way Spears was on and he had mentioned that. It wasn't just the defensive problems or the injury history. It was the fact that porzingas high maintenance. And i guess he has gotten sources saying that. That's part of the reason why the mavericks were willing to move on. Because he's such high maintenance and we saw in that brooklyn's game like in order to get him involved in the offense. You have to stop everything you're doing. And just bloop gave him the ball. Let him go to work. Yes yeah so. I heard that that report was totally bogus. Who said that cuban i. Maybe somebody said that. They think that's just somebody from new york putting that out there because they're still salty. I mean i mean that's just what i heard. I think new york has a whole new brass. I think they're done. They moved on from that whole situation. Okay the next one is from ads the k. King the question is thoughts on trade options involving powell and bobin i mean i i would prefer for what you're going to get back for bo bon. You're better off. Just keeping them just for his locker room presence. Yeah his friendship with luca his joy. You wouldn't get anything back for him. That would make it were. Yeah well powell. You want to get rid of at this point because i mean no. I don't mean that a main getting ten million dollars a year the next two years. So you got i will take a second round pick for wipe i would take cash Nothing for i will give you cash to take two white powell. I think for the from the mavericks point of view. Having him in the locker room is worth more than a second round pick. It's worth ten million dollars a year. I mean you wanna talk about him contracts. Yeah because he doesn't ever Yeah you know after the achilles just before the achilleas. I hate how people are putting that anecdote asterik. Before the achilles he was a non player in this league. I was like i feel like now all the dwight powell lovers are just using that as an excuse. It's like this is what he was like before. I mean he can't jump for the. But oh god dad now you know whatever whatever i don't want to bash powell again i. I don't think they would get anything for power. I don't think there's any team out interested in him likewise with on. I think you'd better off just keeping them just for his locker room presence. Yeah i don't think either one of them have value. Okay love to get terry rozier for them. But it's not gonna happen. Um next one is from at direct show ten. The question is how much value in a trade do expiring contracts of james johnson and tim hardaway junior have at the nba trade deadline. I mean depends on the team. I know it's no. It does not what i was gonna say. It kind of depends on the team. That is what their decision is. What their plan is for the future. Is that team. That you're trading them to wanting cass base like new york when you did the whole cap dump for them. Yeah they were wanting to sign max guys. They thought because they were new york. They'd be able to do that. So you would have to find the right scenario. I don't know if tim hardaway like has a lot of value like tim. Hardaway's value is for a contending team. Like he would be the final piece that a contending team like the clippers say for example they just need one more schuler warrior or the warriors. Well they're not really contending. But the top near milwaukee. They need one more shooter you know so those kinds of teams. Yes exactly so they would. They would have a wad value for tim hardaway. But if they could guarantee that they're gonna he's gonna resign. Yeah unless you're going win now mode oh yeah so yeah outside of that. I mean it really just kind of depends on the team that you're dealing with because they may have a lot of value depending on the team or they may not have any value basically. It's really just about the record like a a really bad team. Generally doesn't care about cap space because free agent destination. True like the mavericks young. But i mean yeah if if region destination yeah but for the most part aband- bad team is not going to lure a lot of free agents. That cost a lot of money. Or i guess maybe they might overpay but generally cap spaces for the bigger teams the really good teams that have a guy they know they can sign him or they need to add a couple pieces they just need to throw the money out there and they get them that those teams i think i really think would or or it's in the has like a super bad contract. Yes yeah i really do think a trade centerpiece much like the one they did. When they got porzingis were centered around brunson and the expiring deals. They might be able to pull the trigger on a guy out there. I just don't know who that guy is. Yeah and you know that really kind of is the only thing that would prevent them is is that guy out there in his at ti wanting to move on. So i definitely think expiring contracts have a lot of value but only for certain teams like for a team like the bulls. It has no value but for a team that would ever that team is needs it. Then yeah it has a ton of value okay. Next question is from at san antonio smart it is if the mavericks by some people make the playoffs. Who are they replacing. So let me give you the current nba standings so we can see who they who is placed. They might take so currently in the west. It is a jazz lakers. Clippers suns spurs blazers warriors. Nuggets the are currently ninth. They're a game and a half behind the nuggets for eighth and two games out of sixth and seventh. Yeah so first of all. I don't think it's a miracle for them to make the playoffs. I think that if you take away that whole cova situation this team has been pretty good. They haven't been there not contenders but they've been pretty good but this this last stretch where they've gone like seven and two or whatever that a lot of that was really those were really bad teams so i mean the record still seven into like what happens when they play normal teams. Like five hundred. I how that's how you win in this leeann is the teams are supposed to be. You have a really high record in teams. That are really good. You have a decent record against them. Yeah so i think. I'm not convinced of san antonio. And i know that guys san antonio guy. Well his his name is big d and then he's at san antonio's smart. Okay so i mean it's what area he again supporting. But i don't see san antonio maintaining their record and i am not sold on portland. I think the warriors have a better chance of falling out than portland or the spurs. I think those three teams are the teams that the mavericks would really fighting for and and one of those three would be the team's a fall out. I know portland. Had that nice little run where they were eighteen and ten. I think the record is a little misleading like every year. Any time portland wins. Four games in a row star. Wars portland's always the dark dark before they got willard when the mavericks played them in two thousand eleven they were projected to beat them average portland. I just don't think they're that good. They're sixty four of their last ten. They've four in a row. I think since they beat the mavericks. They've lost four in a row. So yeah golden. State san antonio portland. I can't see denver staying at eighth but you never know like denver's lost a lot of people. Did over the last couple of years and michael porter. Jr. he can put up some stats. But he doesn't impact winning losses when wins and losses. I wouldn't be surprised if they ship porter somewhere Would you want him now. He's too much of a liability on defense. okay yeah. I agree i think the warriors have the biggest chance but i guess i could see the blazers were the spurs pulling up. The spurs are really. I mean they're seventeen twelve. I think they're staying. Might not remain the fifth. See but i think they're staying next This is from accident. Show ten again. What's luca in capeeze. Chemistry off court best buds. I have not seen that. I don't know i mean. I talked to luca three days ago. I don't have any sources or any context insults. How do you think we have a podcast where we trash everybody team. I'm there's one video that Always comes into my mind. When i think about their relationship off the court and that was in the bubble in the bubble there is this video of all the euro guys It was yokich. It was luca vucevic All of them they were all gomez. Yes they were all hanging out like. They were best buds. Pausing wasn't there well. Maybe he had a date in the bubble. Oh it was in the bubble. He couldn't go anywhere maybe he had a haircut. Okay whatever excuse. The fact is he wasn't there and everybody else was like hanging out and he wasn't and i feel like he's kind of a Not aloof. I don't know if i want to say that word but was with the introvert. Yeah i think he's an intro. So yeah i mean that up to yeah. I don't mean it in a negative way. But i don't think him luka quite gel on the court you ain't friends court. I don't think they hate each other. I think no. I don't think they do. I think they just sometimes you click with the person and sometimes you don't but that doesn't mean you hate them. It just means you don't click your best friend but you. You don't have a problem with them. You like them. You respect them. Whatever but you just your best buds. And i think they have that kind of religion and i think ultimately we just don't know but i have not seen them hanging out outside of yeah i i don't think that they're super close friends now but i think they like each other and they're all that and i don't okay. Next question is from ads. Real ish podcast. Should we tone down the k. P. trae talk should we or should the mavs. We may be mad as i mean. First of all trades are exciting any year. so that kind of gets everybody chooses. going in. porzingas is kind of a hot topic right now because of there's the side that love. Kp there's aside. That's done with them. And i don't think it's going to stop until the trade deadline's over. Until then i think it's just gonna continue to to have rumors and woes or zach lowe will come out and say there's something going on and of course. They may do that. Whether there's something going on or not. Just to irk cuban because cuban attack low. And they're going to get them back and all that stuff. I think that things just keep happening. You know there was the rumors. And then there was that he was out and then there was the nets game and things. Just keep happening that kind of worship yet. We'll just keep stoking the fires as long as those things keep happening. It will continue to be talked about. And again i still maintain that. It's not that they're not shopping him. I think they just. They were looking for his vow. Maybe maybe they are shopping. Hates it here. I don't know. I think he requested the trade. I dunno bro. okay One this is from at ethan. Are you buying all the kp. I guess we just answer this. Yeah definitely think. The rumors were legit. Yeah next question at larue. J. j. j. at this point was the. Kp trade still a win. Oh yes yes. It was because one ninety nine percent of draft picks. Turn out to do nothing in the league absolutely nothing. So it's the mavericks weren't gonna have a top round pick. They weren't gonna keep dennis smith anyways. Dennis smith has turned out to be a non player in the league. He's not good. Yeah he had his best year his rookie year and then has just steadily declined. And now he's i don't even know if he's playing in detroit he is and he had a really good dunk. The other new he needs to be let loose. He needs to be free free. Dennis smith dennis smith is not a good player for u-turn. Dennis smith and wes matthews and andre jordan those expiring contracts into porzingis and hardaway. You almost won the trade just with hardaway alone. Yeah so yes. They definitely won. The trade here was the full trade. the mavericks traded away deondraye jordan. Wesley matthews dennis smith junior. A twenty twenty one first round pick and a twenty twenty three first round. Pick top ten protected so two first round picks in those guys they guides. Kristaps trae berg. Tim hardaway junior. And courtney lee so. I think it was a win because like you said they got tim hardaway junior. Who's been key whether he leaves her not. It doesn't matter for the years that they had him he's been key. Trey burke has been all right you know we got that alone makes it. He's done things. Okay deal and we got rid of wesley matthews okay. That was the biggest win. And regardless of what those players have done for the mavericks. Regardless of what you think of lee your hardware burke or even kristaps. The fact is that none of those players that they traded to the knicks. Are there any more deondraye jordan. Wesley matthews smith junior. They're not even there anymore so that valued at that you gave them. You don't have that. They're not doing anything whereas the mavericks are still getting production from their guys. Now the two first round picks. That's obviously it remains to be seen. Who knows but at this point. I still think they won. I think first round pigs are just completely overvalued in the nba. It's so tough. It's not like in the nfl where these guys played college football for four years they come in ready to contribute on a super bowl team in the nba. There are so many busts. You don't know what you've all like every draft. There's maybe five guys that are actually in the league. Yeah every one of them all the other ones have just follow the fifteenth guy. And so the cia. Look josh green. Everybody was so high tyler bay everybody was flipping out about these guys and i was like these guys suck like. I don't understand why you guys think these guys are going to be any good in the nba. Their second round picks. There's been like four in history. Second round picks at turned out to be good draymond manage nobly and i can't think of two others There's another one okay. That's my point so to think that these second round picks that the map may be jalen is one of the goods sector around. That's a good example. But it's like these guys aren't any good and unless you have a top five. Pick the chances of anybody outside the top five being any good are so remote for you to get that guy is. The chances are so low. It's not worth it. Trade the pick. I am not a bad draft guy. I think like so obviously every nba player was drafted so including the really good ones is not true there have been a lot of undrafted yes every. Nba player was drafted. So it's not like not true. It's not like you can't get good players in the draft. Obviously that's where they come from. But i think the you're the kind of guy that would play the odds and the odds are that you're with your one pick. Are you going to get the guy. Those odds might not be as high as if you're trading for a guy that's already you already whiz. You know he's good in all ready seen you know that his game in college translated to the nba. Yeah i am better with that now. If it's a top five pick. I might keep it and i might take my chances but that man open for business okay. This is the last question from at nba. Seventeen seventeen one. Or maybe it's one seventy spend twenty minutes numbers. Their last question does luca win player of the month for february. Ooh that's actually a good question because their record has been pretty good and his numbers. I think he does i. I do i think he does. I'm gonna look at look. look up. Look up his splits for february. He has averaged thirty points. A game come back. I think it was thirty. Eight and eight thirty points. Seven rebounds eight assists he shot. Where's his shooting. Percentage forty forty eight percent overall forty-three percent on three pointers. And the record. I think is what Good eight or something. So yeah i. I do think he wins player of the month now like i don't know what anybody else did. So willard's lost four in a row. Maybe he should be star. Yeah i mean that freaking like ob top. It went off or something. It's east and west. Yeah yeah you're right. You're right. And obi top and really. He was his name. A lot on the twits. So the twitter's yes. Thank you for finishing that off. I was about say we should edit that out. But you do so yes. Those are all the questions. Thank you guys. That was pretty fun. Like i said if you're listening on youtube leave your questions and then all answered those and we can do that there Those are really good questions. We're really gonna see ninety percent of them were about. Kp and i get it because you know it's huge topic. If you've heard me from a longtime now i've been saying move on from porzingis. Yeah so again. I would encourage you guys to listen to last science post game. 'cause that's we talked about how it's just a cloud hanging over everything so we can't even talk about the game or this or that it's always just this cloud of what's going on with that And just general if you wanna listen to our post game pods. That's dallas hoops game casts. It's a separate pod. You can search for it wherever you listen to podcasts and subscriber follow but that's it for this episode. Thank you guys so much for listening or for watching if you're on youtube and see you guys next sunday or after the next game if you listen to our post game pod We'll see guys later. Bye he gonna say by. I never do. Okay my thing wow.

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NBA Lottery Mock Draft

Warriors Off-Court

42:32 min | 4 months ago

NBA Lottery Mock Draft

"Today answers matter more than ever before. That's why ibm is helping. Businesses manage customer. Questions with watson assistant. It's conversational ai. Designed to work for any industry. Let's put smart to work visit. Ibm dot com slash watson assistant welcome to warriors awkward the san francisco chronicle's nba podcast. I'm your host connor. Letourneau the damn joined by west goldberg host of the popular locked on warriors. Podcast during our conversation we did a mock draft the lottery picking the first fourteen picks as if we were nba general managers west. Thank you so much for joining me. Back on the podcast. I feel like i've been leaning on you super heavily. But you know you're the most consistent reliable coast. I've had on here probably so i really. I really appreciate it The election is still unfolding. Obviously i think some people hope that that would be decided last night but here we are wednesday morning and it's still very much being decided you're actually in florida which is Which was somewhat of a swing state. This year ended up going. Red ended up going for trump but What was it like for you being in a state that is so hotly contested like that. Yeah it's it's kind of a culture shock after being in california at feels like everybody's kind of on the same team you know in the san francisco bay area. Where in florida. I mean you really get a sense of the polarization that is Kind of striking this country right now. i mean i. I was up in the tampa bay. Saint pete area which was one of the swing counties in florida a few weeks ago And it was. It was pretty jarring just to see how many you know trunks pence signs there were up. How many people were just refusing to wear masks. You go to publix you know here in like you know miami and broward county and you know you got eros directing you wear. You're able to walk and everybody's wearing masks and you've got people on the front of the store like wiping down the carts and doing all this stuff and take the necessary precautions against virus and then you go up there and like kind of trump country and everybody's like this thing's a hoax note like you know politically just standing up like you go into a public shopping center and you've got a bunch of trump signs hanging off of like ford f one fifty s And go walk into walk into the store and you. You're counting like you know it's it's much split. Fifty fifty people with masks without. So i mean it is. It's pretty wild. Just kind of go from county to county and see the differences of of the people who were casting votes in selection. I bet and i'll be honest man. And i'm sure that a lot of people in the bay area of his way too but i was just pleasantly surprised to see that it was even up for debate in florida. I mean i think i have this this mindset of just florida being berry read and i know that florida has been a swing state in the past. I thought they'd be all in on trump And i think that's probably an unfair assumption. That i've that i've drawn just From a lot of the stuff that comes out in the news from florida It was interesting to me that it was a swing state I we. We're getting closer here to the nba dravid's november fourth. As we're talking right now. The draft is november eighteen. So we're looking at We're looking at about two weeks To draft and It's it's been so long at this point that i feel like we've analyzed it from every possible angle but what we haven't done on this podcast is we have not done actual mock draft so i thought given all the until we have given the fact that i think both of us have a pretty good idea of what the warriors are thinking at this point. it it's worth going through and doing the lotteries to do in the first fourteen. Picks of the draft What we'll do is. We'll take turns so i think you we talked before the podcast. You're gonna you're gonna start with minnesota number one to kind of set the tone for the rest of the draft. And then i'll go golden state at number two and then we'll switch off from there So are there any. Are there any thoughts. You think you need out there before we jump into this about this drafter about new intel. You're getting now not really. I think you know based on a lot of stuff that we're hearing now After these in person interviews it feels like james wiseman and anthony edwards have sort of Solidified their status lose consensus top. Guys were lamelo ball at least those reports out there. Now that he might be falling. I don't think you and i are surprised by that. We were part of the media interviews with him during the draft. Combine and suffice to say They were not as impressive as some of these other prospects so you could see why that might be hurting him You just doesn't strike me as a good interviewer whether or not that's fair or not. He's just not good at really doing these interview things but if he's falling the net could switch things up a little bit at the top of the draft. But i just. I saw intimate really shaking things up that much and so with minnesota here number one. I think that they would open this thing to trades The the scuttle over the last few weeks was maybe charlotte one move up to number one. I just don't really. I don't know how realistic that's gonna be unless the hornets are just desperately in love with james. Wiseman there's going to be other guys. There can always get on yucca. Kong woo at number three. The could probably get lamelo ball there and number three if they wanna kinda get this franchise point guard. There's going to be enough guys would star potential there where i think minnesota ends up just keeping this pick and going with anthony edwards at the top. Pick in the draft. So you're getting you're getting right into it okay. You think they're gonna keep it simple and just keep edwards. I think they would like to move back. And maybe that's an option further down where i dunno isn't lanta in position take an ob top or something at number six. Maybe they can work something out later. But i just think when they're actually on the clock for number one i just don't know how motivated teams are going to be to move up For a wise or edwards. Lamelo ball or something like that i. There's there's just not that much separation between those guys and some of these other guys that i think minnesota's gonna end up just taking taking the best player available and that's edwards yet. And i feel. I would feel a little bit bad for edward which is funny to say like i feel bad for this guy going number one but I just don't think that's an awesome situation for him I think he needs to be an environment where he encouraged to play defense. I think he needs to be an environment where he has Guys who aren't so ball dominant around him I think he needs to take most motion system. He could help them though. I think he would be a really good influence. Almost on guys like the angeles anthony towns who de ngelo russell. You covered him long enough. We know that he's definitely competitive. But he's not competitive in that outwardly showy way You know he's very chill crawling towns very much the same kinda guy. Anthony edwards like uber competitor. Guy and i think you would. He's not gonna be like jimmy butler for example but he has a little bit of that that edged him. I think that would be welcome just from a locker room set. But you're right. I as far as like. I mean if you're anthony edwards. There's no doubt if you're anybody. You radin drafts. Golden state and minnesota but I do think minnesota ends up going direction. I think the only way that that they moved this pick. Charlotte does make sense As far as if you if you give minnesota number three and a twenty twenty one first round picks that they can replace the one that they sent to golden state. That would make sense. But again i just think the hornets will be happy enough. Just saying let's keep our twenty twenty one pits supposed to be a good draft and there's going to be somebody that we like number three yeah and And i've been saying this forever. And i still believe if edwards is available number two i do think the warriors the Pola trigger. i know they just saw him recently. in everything that i heard out a warrior's camp was that they were very impressed. That physically he lives up to the hype. And i think they look at edwards as like a ball of clay He's still he just turned nineteen years old he was. He played his entire freshman season. Eighteen he actually started focusing on the game. Relatively wait he football player and he was not surrounded by a ton of talent in college or high school. And so i think they look at him as a guy who does a lot to learn but he has such a great base to work with physically that the the floor is pretty high for him. I think i felt confident. Saint edwards is going to be a quality nba starter for a long time. And i think he has the potential to be a perennial all star I mean in. He doesn't lack for confidence and actually liked that from these top guys you know. He went out and said that he wants to be dwayne wade and he thinks he can be better than dwayne wade. which i think. Most people look at dwayne wade as the absolute ceiling. That anthony edwards could reach um which dwayne. Wade's had an incredible career. He's not going to be dwayne wade. But you'd be sixty percent of dwayne wade. That's a home run with the guy. The thing is that he had just physically has shaved dwayne wade. I think it's easy to draw that comparison just because he played for the same college. Coaches dwayne wade. And i know they're they're friendly and through that connection but yeah he's i don't seem dwayne wade but i seem being more of an andrew wiggins and i know people are super downunder wiggins but Indoor we still going to be a player. And i think he's like a borderline all star caliber guy. That's not a bad career. Indians of the andrew wiggins act like the donovan mitchell comparison. He's just got this crazy first. Step in this leaping ability and stuff that if you could just put together I think you could have a very similar Kind of start to his career as donovan mitchell and look he does the one thing that nobody else in the strath does and that that screen is on shop. He has an ability to create his own. Shot that is unrivaled by anybody else in this draft. Yeah and out along. We have seen over and over and over again how important that is As a skill from your top guys and how dramatically that can increase players ceiling. So i'm with you if he's there at number two like if i'm the warriors i'm rooting for charlotte's move up to number one and take james wiseman that they're number two i think that would be a slam dunk pick for them but unfortunately in stress and smock drop. That didn't happen of the moyer's wants to go another direction. Yeah so i to double down on what you're saying if a edwardsville number two i think it's a no brainer for the warriors. Obviously there's things that there's flaws there's things to work on. But i think going into golden state. It'd be the perfect situation alarm behind someone draymond green who's going to push him and and staff in clay i have. I have no doubt that he would end up feeling aurora away and an avid chance to be a go to and a few years. So if he's not there it's much more up for debate You know the warriors obviously have been open to potentially trading back. But everything. I've heard and i think you have to is that it would have to be a very very compelling offer. I'm still not convinced they're going to get that offers of for the sake of this. Mock draft. let's say to keep the number two pick late late there. Though we've heard james wiseman hyped for the same thing you're we're talking to people and organization they likewise but i know that they're completely sold on wiseman and it does strike me as a little bit of smoke maybe a little positioning a little Gamesmanship here like i'm not gonna. I'm not getting nowhere. The reporting i've had for months which is that. I don't see them drafting wise. I still don't feel that they're gonna drive wise. Wiseman i'm not gonna just do this about face just because he had one decent workout The the warriors were impressed by that workout but the people i talked to said that he he physically is very gifted which is something they already knew but they're still they still have tons of questions about him and i don't. I don't think that they're going to pull the trigger at number two on a big man in the modern nba. Who's going to be making ten million dollars a year for them potentially Who they don't aren't confident can create his own offense who they aren't confident Is is has high basketball. Iq or has a great motor. I mean those are major questions I think he's gonna end up being like a better version of jail mcgee And that's not someone you want to be taken at number two I know there's been a lot of hype around him. 'specially recently i think partly because of that workout He'd in credit to him. He did get completely jack in offseason but I still just don't see that happening And if look if i have dirt on my face come come draft there. You can laugh at me and joke about it. But i happen it. You're you're talking. You're not making stuff up. And i'm not making stuff up and that's i think you and i kind of Get attacked on this a little bit from twitter and stuff. This is an opinion. This is just what were hearing from people who work for the warriors and look. I've heard the same stuff that you've heard we've talked about it enough on your podcast on my podcast written. We both written about it. I will say that the people that i've talked to about athletes all the personal work out. It did it did Up new stock a little bit in their minds. But i still do believe that They're split As far as what they wanna do with wiseman i think he's very much in the mix at number two but i don't think that he's by any stretch. The lead candidate at number town i would i would agree with that. Look are they considering him. Yes they are As they could Just from a talent level they should definitely consider him but There's talking like gets a lock that he's gonna go number two. I don't. i don't agree with that. So the smoke. That's been building up too so if the hornets are scared that the warriors you can go ahead and take wiseman i i don't think it's out of the realm of possibility that the warriors can move back like everybody these trade back scenarios back the number ten and grab kelly oubre crazy stuff. What he did was moved back one spot with the hornets that they got to. They're gonna take wise men and the hornets felt like they had to move up with them. And maybe it. All you get is a future first-round pick in twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two. Maybe you're able to nab like a miles bridges or something that from charlotte. Would you be open to that. If you were picking for the warriors i would for sure especially since we know that they would be trading up to get wiseman and you don't necessarily you're not necessarily sold on wise man So you're effectively going to be able to drop the same guy who were gonna draft anyway and also get an asset for sure. Let's do that. I love that just for fun. Actually let's Let's say they do that. Let's say the warriors but say the warriors do that trade I liked the miles bridges idea today. They get miles bridges in option on and miles bridges. Six million miles bridges. I think is a guy who hasn't been able to realize his potential because he hasn't been in very stable environments And i and the guy who beat air castle out for the rising stars mvp award. Yeah yeah Let's which which. I which by the way past robbed on that one but but yeah no. I think he could be a helpful player. Like an eighth ninth guy. Potentially love more of my conversation with west goldberg support for this podcast comes from. Cdw on dell technologies bet cdw g we get the migrating your agency to a hyper converged. Infrastructure is challenging decaf. Gotta do a. don't wanna do it do it slowdown friend. Cdw jeez experts can help simplify your transition from legacy to hyper converged infrastructure with dell emc solutions that offer speed and agility do. Have you done it. is it done yet. Why isn't it onion. Aren't your consideration by cdw. People who get it find out more at cdw dot com slash dell emc so obviously charlotte now with which is going to be your pick. But i guess we've decided charlotte's going to be james wiseman And i know. I've said this many times on the pod but i still the i've talked to a couple of people recently within the organization about any who. They have now seen multiple times in recent weeks. they will just saw him again the other day and they love him They are in. I think borderline infatuated with him They just love his potential. They also think he has a pretty high floor They just love his skill level. Now still has. He's nineteen years old. He's allowed to work on his not. Luka dodgers by any stretch of the imagination that is not the word expectation for him. I think they see much more like Nari type I think that he has that type of Ceiling and potential. Which i you know the knows a great player. And i think he i think he's a perfect fit for what the warriors are trying to do but the warriors one of their big offseason needs is a secondary bar ball handler. And i think any could come in from day one and be that So and he's the only guy i know of that. They have seen twice within the past week week and a half That that means something to me. So i i'm going to say i'm gonna say denny at number two for Dinnie number three because the warriors traded down and it sounds like i saw a report yesterday that any is making it well known that he wants to go to the warriors Of any team in the top of the lottery. Which makes sense i mean. I think it'd be a win win for both of them. I mean. join the club any every everyone. These guys wanna play lawyers but look. I've been hearing the same stuff that you've been hearing. The warriors have been looking at any since february right. I mean they know that. Right before the pandemic really hit bob myers and and Some of these other top executives win overseas to go look at any This is a guy that they've been looking at prevailed so at the previous year to right. They've been it's been on their radar and so Look i. I'm hearing the same stuff i think they really like. Danny this trade this this trade. We just did positions themselves to basically say look. We got this. We got this great player and miles bridges to move back so wars fans. Don't be upset that we didn't get wiseman so from a pr standpoint playoff. they're not that necessarily matters. But it might you get who really want. And then he had via and then in in sort of one. Who've you've addressed the wing position pretty fully. Where you've got andrew against you've got eric past. We've got dream on green. You got klay thompson coming back and now. It's that group added Danny idea and and miles bridges like you've added size and athleticism and upside to this position. All the things that you've been looking for you mentioned the danilo gallinari comparison. That's an okay one to me. I know it's been made From people in the league and who kind of analyze the draft. I really liked. Joe ingles Comparison that's what i've made on my podcast months ago And and look people are like odd job. Ingleside a great player. That's a really good player. Where where is the love to have. Joe ingles though. The warriors love joe. I've talked to a lot of people who would love to join the warriors to But this is a guy who plays a point four type of position. I think you can see any come in and kind of reprise andre iguodala allah roll andrew sale and provide that ball handling off the bench. He's a versatile defender. He's so strong he gets to the rim fouls. He does all the things that they would like it. If you were going to replace andrea dollar the guy you would do with would be joe ingles and if you can get a joke most type then it'd be a with more upside than joe ingles and that's a that's a home run. I think he could be anywhere between you know. Joe ingles and paul george. I really think that's where his upside is. And and that's a good player to get. I think yeah. I think i think he's a guy who If i if. I had if i had to guess right now. I could see him being an all-star at least like once or twice in his career and it would be a situation where if he was on a team like the warriors he'd be like the third or fourth all star on like a a championship caliber team And you know that's that's a pretty good grab. I also think the warriors really like who he is a person. They love his story. They love his his His mix of confidence but also modesty. He's not he doesn't have an ego He takes direction. Well and he's he's been in a situation where he's he's he's been on pro for three years and so he's gonna come in more mature and more ready than your average nineteen year old because he's already seen the he's already been to the rodeo. I mean the euroleague is in some ways more intense than the nba. At least in the regular season they take their their regular season games. Very seriously So i think he's a he's he's he's very mature for his age so moving on so number four to kogyo. This is when things are really are like a in there at this point So you still have. You still have a mellow ball available. the question here would be you know how high or those really on kobe white Do i mean. Kobe had a decent year last year. definitely showed some promise. But i'm not. I'm not sure if he showed enough for you to be convinced that he's your guy i mean. You only shot thirty nine percent from the field Made a lotta mistakes yes. He's a rookie point guard. Yes he's young. But i'm not sold on him. I'm not sure the bulls. Are i think that you pull the trigger on the mellow here. And then figure out something with kobe. Maybe complained together a little bit Maybe maybe you you can trade koby for for an asset But i personally would rather have lamelo ball than cobian and the bulls are very much in rebuild mode. I think you just need to stack assets So i i said take lamelo at four. I think that's actually a pretty easy pick. Kobe white also projects is a great off. Ball shooter like you mentioned you. Only shot thirty nine. He's going gonna get better. You would think. And so if that's the case could play off ball you play lamelo on the ball. Multiple ball handlers. No reason for chicago right now to draft for need just draft who you think the best player available is an all. The ports are that they're high on on the stress point guards and lamelo ball probably the top of their list. So that puts me at number. Five of cleveland Her reports recently. That they're really high on ob topping. Yeah but is macoris. Also been on their board For quite a while. And so. I'm gonna make it easy here the cavaliers really defense. They really need size. They need somebody to play small forward for them as a really easy plug and play. Fit there I think they'd like is upside and what he brings to the table. You you figure. You're getting enough offense from guys like cohn. Sexton darius garland school heading to get the lockdown defender draft a coral. If you're cleveland number five. They're they're super high on kevin porter jr. and they do bit position but I can understand the reasoning behind. A is a big. I'll be honest man. I don't really trust that front office. i'm not gonna make the smartest move Which is part of why. I think they might take obi i don't think. Ob would be the best. Pick their for them Especially when you have kevin love maybe maybe kevin. Love's days are numbered at this point but Yeah i so. You're you're saying oh curl at number five cavs op. Stuff is a little bit more recent. Where the core of stuff's been there for a long time. And i think that that's what they're they're they're just gonna go in and grabbed the they've like all along okay So next step you have atlanta There's there's a lot of things atlantic do here with this pick. The atlanta to me is a really interesting situation because they actually have a lot of talent young For just for whatever reason it has not been meshing And they only had twenty wins last season So they they need to figure things out. I think they could use another solid wing defender. i think they could use Someone who doesn't have a huge learning curve. Someone who's pretty much ready made I can come in and be helpful from day one so for them actually going to go with I'm gonna go devon basle Who i know united talked a lot about. I think he's a guy who can come in and be one of their goto guys defensively from day one but also helps space the floor. And you know complement kevin herder and and trae young can also play multiple positions and give them some versatility and when they have so much kind of inflex with that with that roster. I think it's nice having someone who can put pled multiple holes. So i'm gonna go basil out of florida state at number six atlanta So that taliban on the board for detroit at number seven which i think would be an easy enough pick to make The one thing about the pistons lead by troy weaver now who comes from oklahoma city and they have a reputation. Oklahoma city for dropping young really big wings. Who can't really shoot and hers alone at all. He can shoot doesn't happen doesn't project have so i'm gonna as as the pistons. I'm going to call you as the celtics sending their number fourteen. I'm gonna see if you're interested in moving up From fourteen to seven and boston has the fourteenth tech twenty six in the thirties. Picking this first round. Because an yucca congress on the board and i think you'd be a great fit for boston right All right i'll pull the trigger on that as the gm of the boston celtics. I'll pull the trigger on that. Especially since they have multiple first round picks Is who you end up. Taking account on yekeh at seven four boston and detroit now down at fourteen. Yup i think naked fits what they're trying to do. I think they need another skilled big man to doesn't need the ball. They saw bam adebayo did to them in the eastern conference finals. They wanna find an answer to that is the best possible guy that they can probably get in the draft. Warren free agency right okay. So now that puts you back the clock again well. No that's i guess. I guess we put me back in regard. Because i'm doing the even number so number number eight new york. We've talked a lot about new york. Because i think that they're in love with a couple of guys that they would need to trade out for especially the mall ball But let's say they ended up staying at number eight He's not lamelo ball in terms of just the excitement factor but i actually think that tires halliburton is a better player. At least right now I think that he could come in from day. One and be their starting point guard Also played other positions for them when they need him too So i actually think that if they kind of into taking tires albert they should feel very good about that And maybe you know it. Almost be a good thing for them. If they can't pull off a trade to move up and take lamelo. Because i personally think terese halliburton to be better. And also they need then guys who can kind of be spokesman for the franchise and guys who can you know. Do all the postgame pressures and represent the franchise and respectable way natural That guy but halliburton definitely could be even in a market as demanding as new york. So i'm gonna say new york takes halliburton at eight. And i personally think that'd be a great pick for them. Yeah and you can project it pretty easily him. Playing next rj barrett both. Those guys can handle the ball as ones but they could also take off the ball halliburton because he's able to space floor Rj barrett because of his ability to cut to the basket and finished through contacts and playing space. I think that would be a home. Run for them. I wonder if they would be more likely to take killian hayes there at number eight because of his reported upside. I'm with. I love halliburton's upside. I think he's the best point in the straps. I have in my personal top five and so I didn't that's a home run for the next If they end up taking halliburton eight which puts me on the clock With shington at number nine there in a really interesting situation because kellyanne hayes. Is there on the board. You don't really know. John wall's going to look like coming back. You don't really know how many more days bradley beal has in washington. Dc but you also have a need At powerful word at center possibly I think you know all the reports are that they're interested in. Maybe drafting a big man. The congo out and or off the board wiseman obviously off the board. The only real big is topping. But i think that's a good fit for them. The can you scoring from different areas You have top in. If they bring back office birds hands you can have both of those guys space the floor from your forward positions And you can really opened things up. So i think i'm just gonna go ahead and make easy pick here from washington and take ob topping. Yeah i like that And like ob tompkins. A guy who. I feel very confident is going to be a very good player in this league It'd be interesting to see how he plays alongside rulli But i think that's a really saw value pick and nine taking top and so ten phoenix phoenix. Is you know really making some nice progress. They made they made waves in the bubble Playing around they did. The they went. They went undefeated right. They they really. It seems like they're starting to kind of find their their identity in rhythm under monty williams i think is a great coach So to me. They need to kind of bolster few few aspects of the roster One thing about them is that they've been in search of a true point. Guard a true starting caliber point guard for a long time. Now in ricky rubio has been you know adequate Maybe even better than adequate has been been pretty good for them as their starting point guard But he is in his thirties. Now i think he's he's he's gonna hitting the back of this prime and i think if you bring someone in to learn from him from a little bit and then and then you know hopefully after a year to kinda take over the reins that'd be a pretty ideal situation for young point guard so I'm gonna go with killian hayes here I like that fit. I think he's a really good passer. Who is pretty crafty. Offensively and i think as shown enough potential to to not hurt you defensively So i'm gonna go. With kevin hayes at number ten phoenix. That's a steal for them. I mean they get a guy that kind of number ten. It doesn't work out. It's not the worst case scenario like you said there's a lot of young guys that they can build on build with and there and they are You've got rubio there for another year. You can let clan hayes. Come in easily gonna be your score or off the bench Doesn't need to handle the ball. All the time in running offense like you would with like the knicks for example where. I think halliburton being adult. That he is is a little bit more Ready for to run an nba offense and clean. Hayes might need a little bit more time so hold on pick for phoenix and i think are really good. Fit killing hayes too because it can get you know. There's some places where if i'm killing hayes. I don't wanna go. Phoenix would be a nice spot from So that puts me on the board of san antonio at number eleven. This is a great spots in the spurs one of the guys. I love in the stress. Connor patrick williams out of state. I can do is ridiculous. He's one of the youngest players in this draft on his instincts on defense are second to none in the stress And he he flashes ability to to Get into passing lanes and create steals. And he's also really rim-protector. I think he's just your next. Let like kind of next generation forward in the strap and when you look at but he just needs you know you need around out the finer parts of his game. He needs to continue to develop as a shooter into a continue to develop a develop game off the dribble. And you look at a team like san antonio which is routinely done that with guys and everybody's gonna make the quite leonard You know comparison but even a guy. Jonathan simmons like guys like they've just routinely gone out and found wings johnson this last year. Who needed a little bit more You know polishing and they've done that within a matter of a year over and over again. I think it'd be a perfect fit for them and they go ahead and get their ford of the future. Patrick williams yeah. I love that he also just seems very much. Like a like a san antonio guy he makes a lotta sense. A guy guy i think also makes sense for them as to the bay But that that number eleven spot probably makes a little bit more sense just in terms of the range for for someone like patrick williams who has probably considerably more upset than sitting back So next sacramento sacramento. So he's hard to predict sacramento is gonna do Because they just they always either way of surprising us This is franchise that took. Marvin bagley over luca danni entry young so It's it'll be interesting to see what they do. I actually i liked the pieces. They're putting together I think i think they have some really nice building. Blocks the aaron fox I really liked bogdan. Donna which You know harrison. Barnes as an older guy has been a good for them so I think but. I do think that this team that could use more shooting and one guy. I really like a lot. And i think you like them to air nasmyth out of Vanderbilt he. He didn't play a ton of games last year because he got injured in the game she played he was as good of a shooter. Anyone in college basketball. And i think that's gonna translate and i think they could use that that extra floor spacing to help free up guys like Help free up guys like aaron and the shaun homes of the world. So i'm gonna say they take aaron nezmet out of vanderbilt with the twelfth pick. Yeah i think that's a that's a great pick especially if you're projecting that that they'll lose buddy heald's if they do g. trade him. You know you kind of replace that skill set with somebody with a higher upside defensively I think that makes a lotta sense. That's kind of what. I've been mocking in my my personal macho as well Which puts me on the board with new orleans at number thirteen I think when you're when you're building around Zion williamson and brandon ingram and lonzo ball. Which seem that. That's going to be there courtroom going forward you want more shooting around them and and versatile defense but there's reports recently that they might be shopping drew holiday so if that's the case they may need to replace him you've got you know. Jj right there but you might want to continue bringing him off the bench. If you're stan van gundy but we also need really values stretch fours and stuff like that. Cdc based on the board. You'll get a guy. Like jalen. Smith from maryland. Who's also on the board I think either one of those guys would make a ton of sense for new orleans if they want to try to replace Drew holiday. Thank you go with like a cure. Lewis out of alabama or tyree smacks kentucky would make a lot of sense for them to but I'm gonna go ahead and slot in probably sadique bay here for them at number thirteen. Just a guy who can stand in the corner shoot shots kind of play that hito turkey role that we know stan van gundy likes and just get a guy who could play right away from them at number thirteen. Yeah i like that. I like that So i'm doing Forty now we did the trade With boss me number fourteen. What that makes me number fourteen. Since i'm detroit right so you're so who do you think detroit is taking at fourteen. While i'm gonna call the spurs now at this number fourteen. Pick and offer the spurs number fourteen and some salary filler for damore tourism. And they take it. I don't think so. I better case in the marta rosa. It's gonna happen. And then i go ahead. And take rj hampton. They need a ball handler. They passed up on guys clean. As entire halliburton they can move down and get more picks But in canton not necessarily my cup of tea but i eat does seem like a troy. Weaver type guy again just crazy size ball handling ability shaky jump shot but projects versatile defender. I'm just a whole lot of and whom are bus. Pick for sure He thundered through project. I think he's at least two years away from being able to help him team Let he's so freakish athletically And look detroit is a team looking at this roster. They're a team. That really needs something to get fans excited. I mean lake griffin has had to be a career. But he's not necessarily the guy you want leading an mba franchise and then beyond beyond him. You have an aging derrick rose and then a bunch of kind of known nance and so. I think that they just need someone that's gonna get fans in the seats. That's going to get people excited And i think. Rj hampton has the potential to be that. I think another guy that they look is cole. Anthony guy who can come in from day one and just fill it up So i i just. I'm so underwhelmed by the roster. They just need something to get you interested in them because they've become irrelevant national. Yeah and they don't play a fun style. I mean blake griffin. Started shooting threes. That was kind of interesting christian would has been a nice development for them. I think your banking on that front court kind of just locking things. Down and then rj hamptons developing into that guy. Yeah so i think i think we're down west. I think we just You know there's no need for for fans to tune into the draft november eighteenth because we basically just outlining but no. I think i think we did a good job of of kinda putting things in context of where we're at two weeks from the draft. I think hopefully the listener your takeaway from this is that things are going to be very fluid. There's going to be at least a couple of trades And there's gonna be. There's going to be movement. I mean guys that you're you might be assuming are going to be going early in the draft might fall. I wouldn't be surprised if a wiseman or ball or ball fell a little bit And then you're going to have some guys that you never thought would be going top five top ten and merging in that range so it's gonna be fascinating to watch in honest really going to be fascinating to watch. What the wars number. Two i mean you and i have an idea of what their thought processes. But you know anything could happen still so it's gonna be really interesting. Yeah i think the end look one thing to keep in mind soon with these trades and if the warriors do end up making the trade towers those things tend to materialize right as the draft is happening. It's just like the nba trade deadline. You're not going to get people's best offers until you know you have to write until they have to make their best offers known And so i think you're gonna see that with the warriors and maybe some other teams here in the lottery west. Thank you so much for joining me and you know what this is. I think this might be our last pod together before the draft Because i believe on you so heavily the past few weeks i really appreciate it all the way from florida. All the from you know one of the one of the more interesting states in this election. Thank you so much. Of course our thanks. For joining me on the podcast. That was a lot of fun doing a mock draft with him. 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ESPN's Dan Le Batard

"Everyone Zach this episode is all about the legacy of the great early two thousand ten's Ami Heat and how they've been overlooked. I think a little bit in decade retrospective coverage. If you enjoy you're listening to this podcast. Please take a minute to rate to show in Lever Review before we get to today's episode. I want to remind you about another great. Mba podcast the hoop collective with friend of the program. Brian Brian Windhorst Brian. Jackie macmullan the hall of Famer to McMahon and others. Get together twice a week to bring you the latest news insights developments from around the league. You can find the hoop collective wherever you get your podcasts. And now alone has welcome to the low post. podcasts live from the Dan lebatardshow studios and South Beach. Where to me at the Cleveland or hotel? This looks like an insane amount of shenanigans going on and I'm told this is just the normal Friday in south beach and I am thrilled to be joined by the King of Miami and maybe the King of all sports media the One and only Dan Laboratory. How are you Zach? You think that out there is crazy. You think that what's happening out there Crazy just a lot of people having fun Yes yes but that is Miami that is what is my favorite city. This is a great city. You know what what I was the guy when I was like twenty nine twenty eight psycho. I'm like it's too cheesy for me. It's to clube like it's just. It's not my kind of town now living here here. I don't know I'd have to experiment with it but I have gone completely the other way. The city is awesome. The food is awesome. The weather's always good just had. You just had your first coffee though. You've I've never had. Oh you've never had that crack cocaine coffee. That's Cuban before so that We we we're happy to take your virginity. I'm a thrill I expected it to taste bad. It actually actually tasted great. Yes this is a lot of sugar. It's sugar diesel and crack and I'm told do not mess around. Do not do not have my toe in. Don't think I can go all in well. It is something that will give you a great deal of energy so you have to be careful with that especially if you have any heart ailments why I wanted to have you on other than your. You're Dan Laboratory amid Miami was all this decade retrospective coverage just happened in the NBA. WHO's the team of the decade? WHO's the player of the decade? And I look I didn't read all of it but I read a lot of it in India jesting it. I kept feeling like the Lebron Wade. Bosh heat are not coming up in this discussion. As much as I thought. Part of that is just simply. It was the beginning of the decade. And we're all stupid and hardwired. Remember what just happened. Part of it is what just happened was the warriors and connected to that. Lebron Ron went another place and championship. It made four finals in a row as he did in Miami however I do think a. They haven't received as much attention as I thought. Considering and you wrote lovingly about it how much of an an event they were for four years and two I do think there is it is is indicative of there is some sort of grappling going on with like how to reckon with what they accomplished. Where do they rank on the all time scale what what happened at? What do we think of it but I wanna go to like have you haven't read all this coverage at same neither have I but do you get that feeling that we've kind of like it's Mike? We've moved on from that team almost well. They started the trend and then the trend got more fascinating because Lebron went from if you watch the arc of it. He went from totally popular to that mysterious last game in Cleveland and then he much to his surprise becomes unpopular all of a sudden and then makes the the star turn later the way tiger woods does of back to popular again. It's the way it's the best way to go to fame famous infamous and then more famous and so they were doing that at At the beginning with great controversy and that team was one shot away from being a tremendous underachiever given how they came out of the box at the start of the decade because people were really mad that they came out of the boxes if they'd want a bunch of championship simply because at the last minute the heat rush them on stage age they were still signing the contracts and the bows of the arena and then they come up for that Ridiculous PEP rally. That was very Miami. That was not there was not unlike the thing that you liked outside here. The Cleveland or hotel. We're good at the party. And that team is a party for four years The Not one. Not Two Blah Blah Blah. Yeah there it was a pep rally as if they had one champion. WHO's a mistake? I wonder if they knew as soon as Lebron said it. Right it was Lebron's words saying to not one not two. Yeah I think it was him saying I wonder if as those words came. Come out his mouth he he realized this is now going to haunt me. No matter what happens oh I think he just injected Miami fissile like just injected. I'm here and all it look at this look at what is greeted us because imagine I remember it was very funny to think back on it but they came up on this stage in the three of them had their back a to what they were coming up to so they couldn't be totally sure. What was behind them and when the three of them turned around? Wade's like this is my city. This feels cool. Lebron gets blown back a little like oh I love being here and Bosch is stunned by the whole thing like he starts flexing and roaring and going all over the place as as if he'd actually done something in a game because it was just yeah they just injected from right there they. They injected you from Miami to the United States and that what was going to be back and forth and Miami. The best sports experience Miami's ever had was those renegade hurricane teams at urinated all over sportsmanship and it was an and and an us against them was a very real thing. I was like the stupid six to eight year old in the eighties when the hurricanes were doing that WHO. I don't know why maybe because my father father is a coach. That's not that's not a nice to do. That's right. I was a little bit America Rossnowlagh. It wasn't just you. That was all of America now like now. They're cool. ooh Yeah so it's really cool. By the time the fad five came along I was a teenager and smart enough to realize they're cool. I don't care what kind of cheating is going on there. Cool right. How is Lebron? So this there's always Wade's town. It's always going to be weighed down. Lebron is now in Kobe down. So he's GonNa be Kobe's down but Lebron left here and as you wrote very I was reading some of your stuff this morning when when he left You wrote about. It did not end with good feelings. Between Lebron the organization what is he regarded as here is he. He's not quite like like beloved. I don't think right. I just a wonderful mercenary. Who brought us four years like I I there weren't burning jerseys here? Whatever anger there was was in the heat organization organization because they were hurt by the fact that they were surprised? The same way that Dan Gilbert was but while you never liked to have the feel you'll good taken away Miami wasn't it didn't feel like unreasonably angry toward Lebron not in a way like we weren't they. They lost him the same way that they got him. They lost him in exactly the same way that they got him and so I don't see how you could be at him but he's not he also wasn't here long enough for the field good to be like like echoing enduring where you develop emotional attachment to him the way that you would to Duane. Wait what is it. I haven't been to Lebron return game here. I don't think what is it like when he comes back. Well most people are in the bathrooms doing blow but five after the video tributes or whatever You know there's some indifferent Booing and not now not at this point is gone. I feel like I feel like Lebron returning doesn't mean anything because he's had a couple of pitstops elsewhere so But the first time back. You're Ma- how you remember what it was like. When he returned to Cleveland with the Miami Heat the watched? TV into people. who were there? Say It's the the worst thing they've ever seen it's crazy like they were so bad to him on returning to Cleveland. Miami wasn't anything like that. It's interesting also. That Bosch has has become Miami and that he that he's the last one like even wade is in La. Now Bosch is it's it's and he's at the Games all the time every time I come here. He's at the game and he gets introduced and people love him. It's interesting how he became you. Described imperfectly like the third wheel. Who's like what was happening? Here what have I got myself into. In his first season really his first two seasons I mean there were rocky rocky emotional moments for him and now it now this is his town. It's very interesting. He's really loved here He is loved here he was always. I used to always after talking to Chris Chris Bosh I would always thank him with like sincere probably over the top appreciation for just the way that he is in terms of treating people he got here So clear on what it is that he wanted like he came here. And he's like I want kids. I want to have a family. He wasn't here for the for the parts of Miami that are fun for the single. NBA Player That's not what he was here for. he was here to to make a family and make this his home. And it's what he did and he of course is came back after Lebron left It is Is Interesting to go back and relive that summer with the plane tracking and the the meeting in Vegas is that I don't even remember when it got reported their meeting in Vegas and how short the meeting was and then you look like they've really thought he was going back. They drafted napier. Then they got Josh mccown Robertson. Danny granger who were going to be like the veteran guys who could fit with Lebron I mean they really built a team for Lebron. The one away They were surprised prized by it in ways that they probably shouldn't have been and I yeah and I remember at the time How upset Pat Riley L. E. was and He is fortunate that he didn't get too emotional publicly because it would have been bad on staining some of the end if he had You know if the anger of the moment the flash of the moment had been something that he decided to protect it is ego with because if you remember some of the details on that back and forth it felt a bit like Pat Riley was taken over Vegas as a showpiece as Chesapeake and so in the room. When he's in there with Lebron and maverick and random When he's in the room with them they they barely would? They wouldn't look look away from the World Cup or they would turn the sound down on it like he's sitting there. He's pitching them. 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The heat is a disappointment I think they are just spectacularly Miami in every way they were loud like a disappointment yes they probably should have one more than two. If you're putting together that star power to get the heat but we also how hard it was. The reason people are still mad. Kevin Durant is because we saw how easy it was when he played on that team. Lebron gets here. They do that. Pep Rally we think it's going to be easy for them. And then we saw that it wasn't any kind of easy for for them. So begrudgingly they end up taking our respect. I'm with you though that. If if Dwayne Wade had been able to remain healthy you know you've heard Pat Riley say that he was looking for a decade team. He wanted he thought when Lebron left he thought a decade went out the window. One of those decade teams. We've by by the end and I think I have no idea if they're perceived disappointment I don't want to speak in the passive voice like people perceive them. I don't know if they are. I just their lack of coverage in this particular window struck me if if they are I think one of the I'm not saying it's right. I'll get to my opinion if they are. I think one of the reasons is that they went out with such a whimper against the enemy. Tonio did just rolled off my floor. That happens so fast if you go back to that series Miami almost won both games in San Antonio it was one one coming back here for three and then San Antonio put together the best stretch of basketball. I've ever seen a team put together over three games where they even bosh was saying like it was bewildering wilderness lodge lashes spokane lovingly of those themes. But it was. It happened in three games. The whole thing ended in three games like which may be part of the the reason that the Miami Heat weren't prepared for it But I I don't know if I've mentioned this to you before but The Miami Heat had The feeling that over the way that series fell apart that Lebron wasn't totally present. That and there's nothing in the stat. Atlanta disagreed with people in the organization about this. There's nothing in the stat line that would suggest for a moment that Lebron wasn't trying maximum hard but those results. Also were so inept defensively for the Miami Heat that they've been some folks have been left to wonder within the organization if just because Lebron Ken Dan camouflage his interest on defense. I think I think it's so fascinating because I think last year you would look at the stats say is lebrons. Twenty seven seven twenty eight eight legs having a great year and you watch games like he's not there the way he is and the Saint. That Cleveland game where he checked out in the late day west rumors and all this stats. Were good I mean it. It was a shooting well but it's not like he was too for eight and with four assists the set. He has the ability. He's so good that he is going to put up juggernaut numbers just by having in the ball being on the court as far as that series goes I just remember I remember game five in San Antonio They Clinton San Antonio Miami was up like seventeen in the first half but so you knew like we were talking in the pressroom. Here's how the game's GonNa go Lebron's GonNa come out like a house afire. The heat are going to get a lead. The Spurs are going to chip away. And then they're just GonNa roll over and die and that's just like by the end. It was a party. The four was a party. It's exactly how it happened. And that's how and that's how it ended but it was fun. It's when I'm telling you about it being very Miami like I don't no no you WanNa talk about man. Maybe it's excellent. Maybe it's mediocre. Maybe it under cheap but yeah we had a good time like everybody was dancing and it was loud and it was just a big Miami team but if if one show if a free throw goes differently if Leonard or Manu Ginobili make a free. Throw Miami Amy Winds one title and I think that team is a lot closer to being Something that's that's funny instead of Remembered at all so the case taste for them being. It's not a disappointment Sean. But so they go to the finals the first year and we'll talk about that Dallas series all time but it's okay to say disappointment it's a disappointment. In the same way that shacks career was a disappointment. You know what I mean like. You're looking at it and you're saying well. He's bigger stronger faster than everybody should he win. All the titles every year shouldn't be will chamberlain but but checks career is assuming you could call it a disappointment but there's nothing numerically that would adjust access to closer to being a top five player than he is being the tenth Bessler in the NBA Shack is ridiculous And by the way your point about the warriors actually think the warriors run is an argument for the heat. Not being at this point for for this reason they had durant for three seasons. That team with durant should be as close to an automatic championship. As you can get did no one should be able to beat them. They win the first twenty Houston almost beat them. The second time up three to Chris Paul gets injured. I don't care if the chemistry was they were having a bad series. Durant was doing too much there. There was some stuff going on with the. That's called sports. That's what happens. Like Houston foisted upon them push them and they didn't respond well until Chris. Paul got hurt. And they responded like gangbusters and then they actually lost so like if that team can come somewhat close to win one for three. I think that shows you just how hard it is to win once in the NBA. and to me that's the ultimate argument. For why why. They're not a disappointment. Is that it's just. It's no matter who you. It's really hard to win sack. It is amazing just to look back at that warriors team You would think as is easy as it was easy in quote marks as it was for them to win the title because they had by far the most talented team every time they were out there for them to be just fundamentally physically broken mentally physically and not wanting to be around each other anymore. Like that should tell you how difficult it is to like those guys. I should've been hogging championships for the decade. They should have been just sitting there playing together. If it was about winning and only winning to enjoy themselves for ten they would have been the Celtics of red Dr back so he lose the first year. Twenty twelve and twenty thirteen. They win twenty thirteen. Is there best team. It's the team that won. Twenty seven games in a row. Oh they were forty five in three over. Forty Games going into the pace of series which was the conference finals? And then twenty four team. We just talked about twenty twelve seven. Twenty thirteen are not like super convincing playoff runs. Twenty twelve is the Boston series in the conference finals. Where they're down around three to Boston? Reels off three straight. Paul Pierce Hits a three year in game five and jaws at the whole world blueprint. I'm convinced was on the line there like what I was. Go to game. Six and Lebron plays what most people within the heat would say is the most consequential game of his career in Boston. I think he was nineteen of twenty six at forty. Something points was just. It's came out and it was the all time we are not losing I am single handedly. Winning the game perform one of the most bad ass performances of ever seen seen across sport. Yeah that Boston team was not like was not. That was the lockout year I think they were. I'M GONNA look it up right now. Sort of a sagging veteran tired dynasty worth nine thirty nine inch twenty-seven they were the fourth seat that's not That great the injury today are sold at that point right. That weren't they weren't wasn't it like at that time. None of those guys would play back to backs at that time. The Celtics have already thought if we held onto him too long. They they've already had that discussion internally that we missed the boat on trading these guys were screwed And the broader point is that Derrick. Rose's injury really took away what should have been Miami's rival for the full stretch of their championship. So choose one of their run so two thousand twelve. They barely Eke by a Boston team. That's that's what I was GONNA ask you if they lose that game. Do we have any idea what happens. I don't think they break apart the way Lebron thing but I do think that the Miami Heat might get get engulfed now. They've said otherwise we'll never know right because they've said otherwise publicly. Nah I wouldn't have broken up. I thought there was so much pressure at that point and and the noise was so loud and they were being covered in such an unprecedented fashion. Like where Wendy. When do you remember? ESPN covering anything that way. Where would be a proper Miami Heat reporter to just follow the team around like they engulfed? ESPN because they were polarizing team. And I I just thought the heat of the noise of that was so loud at that point an another off season laughing at the Miami Heat. Another offseason after Lebron had already like like gone. Tom Hanks in castaway because he couldn't post up. Jj Berea in the surprising finals. Like that would have. I believe the pressure of that would have made them. They wouldn't have come back for a third year as I don't know what I believe except for this no matter what they say publicly. I don't think they know. I don't think they know how they will respond to exactly the situation. You just described. Because it would have been hysteria it would have been hysteria and Bosch had already suffered not suffered had already bared his soul like multiple times by that point and I don't know if he becomes if it starts getting speculated that are they gonNA move him. I'm like I don't know what happened. I don't know if there's coming back from that. That game and once they won that game you know. They're winning game seven at once. They get to the thunder. Well they were. They were an underdog against the thunder were favored in that series. The Thunder I at that point there it had been such a Labor had been such a struggle that team was totally. There's revisionist history there. That team was an underdog I picked thunder in the finite GRANTLAND DOT COM. I picked the thunder would win the next five titles because they had I mean they had all those guys under twenty five years old hardened Westbrook durant in a Bacha. You know depending on what you believe about a box birth certificate during that playoff run one of the the things that makes it a little better than it looks in twenty was at Bosch was injured. Bosch was injured during game. One of the Pacers was just the second round. The first of three straight Indiana Miami series and missed the first. I four games of the Boston series. The first five back I was that team was so doubted. During all that time I went on the radio and I- nationally had an an argument with Stephen a Smith where I was indignant that he would take. Tim Duncan as the guy he would face Lebron with instead of what I was is nominating Roy. Hibbert Roy Hibbert because he terrified Lebron so much any fouled up everything that was happening with the heat so much that they I was taking Roy. Hibbert game changing center only to stop a bother Lebron James. He walked into a practice facility during that series and Lebron was taking baby Abi Hooks and stuff trying to work on some. And they're like are you really going to invent. You're going to invent a new part of your game for this This this Yeah scarecrow who soon to be out of the League A Bosch Got Hurt in twelve playoff. Run it in doing so. Miami accidentally stumbles into the way that it figures out. It should play which is Lebron at the four are bad yet before they start Badea and then Bosch Place Center and they've now found their identity that's why they should play the next year. They just as year they go crazy they went. Twenty Ninety seven erode. They're totally blitzing. The whole league they finished sixty six and sixteen. It's a humiliation. It's embarrassing the whole dirt so much better than everyone else. Then they get to the Pacers in the conference finals. The the Pacers in twenty twelve thirteen I believe were forty nine and thirty two like Whoop de freaking do The the heat were forty five in three going into the series and they took him to seven because the hibbard. What do you think made me so crazy arguing with Stephen? A Smith hibberd made them crazy. Hibbert was heavier. Was the scariest thing in that entire for year. Run because everyone could see that Lebron didn't know what to do. Against the seven three scarecrow that was the series game one is when they take Hibbert out and Lebron hits delay up at the Buzzer to win the game name and he had an end one before a layup before that would like twelve seconds left to put them up by two or three an wanted to put them up three Paul George and gets fouled shooting a three. I think makes all three whatever a classic all time classic game some things. I forgot from that series and from that season I just got through saying that. They revolutionized their own identity in the League by starting adding Bosch at center and playing small. You DONNAS HAS LEM started fifty nine games in two thousand twelve thirteen and started. I think every playoff game until the finals in the middle of the series and they flipped him out for my head. One big game against the pig somewhere where all of a sudden they they called it has lemming right where to lay off of somebody somebody to just let someone shoot. I was at the Phoenix Suns. Somebody called it has looming. It was the game plan. And in that game. They has lumped by just letting him shoot jumpers and he he didn't he made him. I think it was game to now. I don't remember when it was getting the previous series against the Pacers in two thousand twelve. He had also had a big game. And that's the series when you remember that they're down in in two thousand twelve thirty down to one to the Pacers in Lebron Wade had may be their most synergistic game together in gas for seventy points. Come but let me ask you this. If you're doing sort of their place in history a- As as a guy who knows this part of the evolution The position list stuff like that's the mark on how basketball changed throughout out this decade. Right the fact that they decided to play with a team that didn't have a center because back then at the time. We were having legitimate arguments about. Would you start a team. I'm a few years earlier Lebron James Dwight Howard that was something that was light and then the the whole sport caged right there. Yeah and and Lebron moving to the for a movie had resisted for a long time I think in surrounding him with shooting Ambassad Center in the way they let's pick and rolls into like my point and bring up Hasim awesome was they've still played big. A fair amount with two traditional bigs or Bosch is not really traditional but you get what I'm saying. They would still play Bosch Center a lot part of what happened. His they discovered how good they are with Bosch at center and part of what happened. Is that Wade in the Brown. Just got more comfortable playing together and you could see it in. Just the way they moved the ball started to change. They would just have these possessions sessions like five six seven boom boom boom screen. Give go and it was like legitimately two thousand thirteen was legitimately beautiful basketball until that Pacers series where it got a little ugly hip. I'm telling you if hevert going in there fouled up. He made me crazy. Zaki made me crazy. I argued you gotTa Take Roy Hibbert over. Tim Duncan If you're facing Lebron in a playoff series it's an argument. I mean let's face it. Most New Year's resolutions Are Hard to keep getting more exercise. Save more money well. 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Rose gets injured and all of these sort of like the pacers sort of rise up into this like semi void in the East and like in the big picture. They're just there that back like they were the third seed that you're the knicks. Were the second seat. They're a good team. They matched up well with the heat but they they were a good team. That was inflated flavor. By how bad the east was top to bottom. and like in the macro sense there's no metric that screams like this is a legitimately dislike championship caliber eighteen and the heat limped by them. But as you said they were a really good matchup for Miami. They defended the hell out of them. Paul George was like exploding onto the scene. Those are fun. Series is is your larger point though that one of the reasons that perhaps Miami gets overlooked for that four year period is because there wasn't excellence to meet them. There wasn't enough excellent missile in the east guide. Great once Lebron left and all the other teams like okay. Now we can win or Jaanus Yonathan. The sixers sort of naturally emerged into their prime. But the east was just I. It was really really bad. I I'd have to really study it. The East might have been better during his time in. Cleveland was during his time in Miami. The competition to get out of the East might have been better and you can say if you were looking to diminish what it is that they accomplish that what was coming to meet them in the finals of from the Western Conference it had been a great attrition. Right when you go from James Harden Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook together to all of a sudden the Popovich Spurs the Dallas Mavericks. Those are all very different teams. You know what I mean and you didn't know who the hell was gonNA come out of. That's why the argument that the their one shot away from going one in three. It's interesting but you could do that to allow the teams that won championships. If not for this than this if not for this and this and it's not persuasive so much to me also because those two spurs teams were awesome historically awesome teams the team that beat them in the finals. The Spurs team of two thousand fourteen. The revenge team I at the time I think had the best scoring margin in through the playoffs of any team ever in the history of the NBA. They destroyed everybody including the heat. The thunder were the only team that push them will actually get Dallas. took him to seven random in the first round but the bottom line is they. They were unbelievable team to split against that team. That's that's a nice outcome. I don't care if it took a crazy ray Allen show you were at that game I assume right yes. I was not at that again. What are your memories from? Where are you are you still in your proper seat when I was Still in my seat yes As I recall we were making fun. John of Stugatz because he had left the the arena and was trying to get back in the he one of those guys yes yes he went and he was like Banging banging on the door and I remember being Bothered that everything that team had been through. That people were so many people were leaving so fast Just because I thought that team deserve better as somebody who I mean they came I. I hadn't been writing about sports. It had been many many years since I've written about sports and there was that that team that electricity that connection to the city that vibrant I Yeah I was working that night as I was many of those nights writing and I was just sort of stupefied I sat there. I didn't process all of it the way that you normally would. If you were just just watching a game I was confused like did that just happen. Wait a minute because the size of it. That so much had built up to that moment over three years Three years right. Was it three years. That are third year together. Yeah that yeah it was it. It just sort of felt like it mattered in a really unusual way and I I was in that moment Not a not much of a professional. Well Hey look that I mean. I don't know what I did on my pro. I was not probably fell off my couch in astonishment. That that that that had happened It's the greatest shot ever. I think it's I think it's better than the Kyrie Irving shared. Better is the wrong word. But I I think it's the greatest shot ever and that's why they signed Ray Allen. That's why hi Fred Allen went there and and you know they're they're. It's not an accident that he hit that precision of it is not though when you think when you go back and you know you know how meticulous ray was like the number of things that have to be coordinated for him to know the spacing on the floor you know you know how obsessive compulsive he was about preparation right and so if you could deconstruct like the steps. He had to take to know where he was for them not to have to go to replay to find out whether or not he was actually behind behind the three point. Line or not Yeah that was pretty cool. Cool moment I gotta go back and read. Did you write a game story like a column from the game or something. I gotta go back and to see that I just remember reading some of the details. This was afterward just it. This would require some reporting on. Just how many years of preparation went and into the specifics of Ray Allen knowing how to get to that corner that way because that that situation was not unique damn because of the number of times in practice I mean I. I don't know if I did have OCD. But the way that he was proud would practice would be kind of OCD and so he just sort of knew the dimensions the court by feel and then of course they go onto win game seven. It's actually when you think about the emotional gut punch it's to disperse credit. That game seven was as close as it was in required. A couple of big defensive plays in in a big Lebron jumper to win the game and that was that was a tight game. All the way through is that the one where Dunkin missed the layup that was like two minutes left they almost lost game seven. What are the only times you will ever see? Tim Duncan this show frustration on the fleece. I believe he slapped the floor. I was really angry with himself. Ephraim stetch dot and then for the Spurs and the Spurs were out for blood the whole next year day regrouped from that. I'm not sure any team has ever regrouped from gut and that's not even a gut punch that's like your guts are literally ripped out and thrown. That is stunning though. Isn't it that that team just didn't break at that. That point that somehow that all those guys would come back at that age and and put on that particular onslaught where they ended the Miami Heat and et with with a total whimper. That that entire experiment ended the wrong way. All that loud noise ends at the end with with a whimper. Because of just how good San Antone tone with with the spurs passing circles around them engine nobly on an injured leg dunking on Bosch in the last game in San Antonio and Ginobili didn't dunk all that much by it by that point in his career. Sometimes we're inspiration. You just have to look up for more than sixty years. The Goodyear Blimp is fueled greatness on the Gridiron by providing aerial real coverage of some of the most legendary moments in college football history when the Goodyear Blimp rises above a stadium and inspires players to reach higher and rise to the challenge of the game's biggest moments. It's now it's your turn to go. Further with goodyear discovered tires made to rise above the rest. Learn more at goodyear dot com goodyear more driven to me. What are the Games always remember? Might be one of my top ten games ever have just from Lake. Since I've been doing this professionally was game. Six of the Spurs Thunder Conference Finals to get into the finals. It in twenty. ooh I remember watching that game in a bar. That game was crazy. So that's so that series went and remember that the thunder in two thousand twelve had upset the spurs burs. Who had won twenty in a row in to get to the finals that the thunder were a bad match? Up for the Spurs and the Spurs into it a Missed the first two games because they were so much younger like it just felt like all fast twitch muscle visor arms everywhere arms and dudes jumping in my face enough spurs geezers or like yeah. We're smart we can pass but like these arms. There's allow arms all around me right now. It's like the athletic guys that the Y.. Playing against the dad who's forty five years old but has played for a long time and he's got like the roly-poly pudgy moves and stuff and once athletic is figuring without a little bit del guys in a little bit more trouble than he thinks. Baca misses the first Games Spurs. Go Up to a thunder roar back to to win. backend returns through Spurs game five at home three two game six and okay see Tony. Parker gets hurt in the first half they throw cory. Joseph in WHO's like an unknown seldom use any scores a couple of baskets plays well and I think it's closer tied or something at halftime and then close the entire second half it goes to overtime. Quite Leonard has an insane scene chase down block of Russell Westbrook somewhere. That's series was. That was the has I think once the Spurs got by that. I've never really talked with them about that. I'd I'd bet they viewed that as like we respect the heat but I think they were pretty confident in that series against the heat that they were going to win that series. I think Oklahoma City was almost as much of a Bugaboo Kabuki. them the spurs can feel pretty good about the idea. I know it's looked back on as the warriors doing it. But the spurs in some ways can feel pretty good about out ending both the Miami thing and the o'casey thing because the o'casey thing was supposed to be a lot bigger and better than it was and San Antonio with its ability to who'd old man their way Pass that Oh Casey team like I don't I don't know if Westbrook and durant relationship ever recovered from it because you remember during that series series it was all. I think that's where it started. Hey this westbrook's inefficient like he's I felt like that was the series where that began. I might be wrong about that. It was already going on before them but I maybe it exploded in that series. Like me shield. He's the Meat Shield for Durant durant. Never gets any criticism. It's all Russell Westbrook's fall. Even if he scores forty five. I felt like it started. During that series my recollection might be run but you are ahead of the game mathematically then you you were doing more efficiency analysis before then you might have been talked. Maybe I don't I've I've never been a huge rust guy. My is a great players sides. Think he's a little right. That's all inefficiency that. Yeah it's hard to. He shoots really poorly snow snow around it. One of the worst three point shooters by volume in the history of the the worst. The worst I just know the spurs when that series was tied to the thunder they were really really worried that From talking to people in that team they were there was there was a moment where they were like. Does this team just have our number is this is this are we. It's all we've worked for. Is that looming. Imagine being an old Guy Kevin Kevin durant specimen an extraterrestrial that didn't exist in the league before he brought like that where it's a seven footer. WHO's GonNa he's it's a guy who under another time in America would have been asked to be Dunkin? He's coming down the court playing playing against Dunkin. I think Dunkin was already looking old by that series wasn't he had yet better playoff runs and people remember them but it was it was I mean he retired two years later so it was. It was her two or three three years later. I know but it was coming Yes Stephen Adams on my podcast last week and we talked about how he was on the bench during that game six who's a rookie. And he remembers thinking and this is a privilege to watch like to watch the level of basketball I'll end with this ultimately. Actually I don't think the heater disappointment. I don't buy that just because of a disabled before it's too hard to win. You Win two titles and four years yet. Didn't last as long as you want it. You didn't get a six seven. I mean ask you this question though. If one free throw goes differently is your answer. Different to that question if one free throw in the San Antonio gave praise unavoidably probably is If they lose if they're one and three in the finals I think there's no there's a I'm sorry to discipline. That's funny to say that it's weird. That's that's the line that you're an analytic sky. You're a a guy who knows knows how to measure greatness in in sports and value in sports and one free throw by San Antonio Guy Make. Can you seemed dumb. No it's no. But that's that's the conundrum of it. That's why it's not clear. Cut about what. That team was winning half the time because when they got up on that stage agent jumped around and did the parade. IT WASN'T A. Hey we're GONNA win half of them like that's not what they were doing as much as I've written about this sometimes before as much as you're right right about now analytics and big picture trends and and you know the flip of a coin and the whatever the flap of butterfly wing it still about winning. You got to win and I don't care like it's like the warriors seventy three win season. They were disappointed by merit. They want seventy three games. They gotTa Win. Unlike at some point you've got to win. If the warriors won two titles in five years given the personnel they had instead of three. Is it fair. To say that's a disappointment prob may be. I don't know it was like at some point. All the excuses. All the randomness. All the luck. All the bounces the ball. If you're there long enough that stuff is going to even out and like you just gotTa to win you gotTa Win and like the rally shot was lucky that the spurs Mr free-throw sure I guess was it lucky that the rebound bounce right to Bosch Bosch Newark. I guess but they they were close enough to still be within striking distance and like the great teams. That's what they do. They dig deep and they find a way to take advantage of a bouncer. Whatever and like Ray Allen Chris Bosh made an all time great play and they won the series and then they had to win game seven and they won game seven so I don't it is funny to think that way but the bottom line is they one and two championships championships? And four years the longevity of it is a disappointment but that for your team you know. I don't know we'll see that it's not. Even the warriors were the same in terms of the level of coverage in terms of fun. I'm trying to think and your career and your over your lifetime because that is the most fun team I've ever covered in Miami sports and that's going back to the eighties In Your Lifetime in this sport fun teams. I mean it's showtime Lakers are. Before your time right. I'm a kid an eleven ten years old so Yeah when you think of fun teams because I feel like. They brought a resurgence of interest by getting together. Because they were this weirdly famous car dash into saying the decision is the biggest. Is there a bigger sports media. Event in the last ten years in the decision Yeah it'd be hard to come by then a guy announcing his free agency and from there announcing right a change in the sport that turns into what it is today today that none of us could have seen coming where everyone all of a sudden figures out that one of the shots has more value than the other one worth three one three. Everyone figures out the three that is more than two all of a sudden Yeah that television show signaled Lebron James Owning the decade. How man? He's turned our network into an infomercial. INFOMERCIAL for him like he's that's crazy that we didn't cover Michael Jordan this way at ESPN APP. It was cute that the New York Times gave player of the decade Steph Curry. It's also wrong and I don't care if you like I love Steffi. Revolution has game all that but problems in the finals. Eight years in a row and the first team to revolutionize the NBA as a business entity in in this decade was the Miami Heat because of how he came here and because of the star power and they were they were fun to your point because they were villainous and vulnerable at the same time like you could by the time. They made the playoffs. You could talk yourself into like. Oh they can be beaten and Boyd every neutral. We WanNA see them lose. The warriors were only villainous when they were essentially unbeatable or they only lost when they had so many guys hurt that the words were popular. The the the He'd were villains and it's just fun it's fun to have a villain. I feel like there were legitimate reasons to doubt them at every place along the path and when most of the people you're listening to this I'm thinking aren't going to remember that the heat were an underdog in that final series again. You will now remember that. Okay See Because of the the size of the doubt around everything that was happening around that team and people people will remember nine and eight which was their record after Seventeen Games and when Lebron bumped SPO- underway off the court. Short SPO is like disagrees veteran. Now he was in his third year as head coach. When that bump happen he was a baby? A baby entrusted. I don't mean that pejoratively I'm just saying as in the he was Luke Walton. He was a kid as a coach. entrusted to that. That's a crazy easy story in and of itself it is and it speaks. I mean you know about what the Miami Heat culture is and I'm not talking about the way that they use it as sports athletic cliche. I'm talking about. They've got so many loyal loafers loyalists in the organization like people who have never worked for anybody else People who only know you leave Riley side and you're no longer his friend or you work for him for an eternity and and SPO was one of those guys who came up through the the bowels of the arena from the video room and they they worked with him and it was. He had quite the support system because Lebron couldn't nuke his coach but like couldn't do it even though I mean think about what we're talking about a third year coach against the size is of Lebron James. You couldn't do it. Because he couldn't go at Riley that way but over the next few years culminating with him breaking up with Riley in a way that left. Briley are broken. Lebron did they'd realize hey. Wait a minute Phil Jackson. Parral don't need to be the governor of me anymore. I'm going to be the governor of me and I'm going to hire my friends and empower them to support what it is that I'm doing the next next thing you know Phil Jackson's out the door calling his crew apostasy as they trade as they take over the holy and by the way you wrote about this had happened. That's powerful people do and Lebron was painted as a villain again for wanting to exercise that level of power. But anybody with that level of power will try to exercise it. That's what what they do and you and you had a you had a piece on your com- that I was reading about everyone. Here is the other sore feelings. That Lebron Flu Pat Riley out to Vegas as a showpiece to to show the cavs. Is it yeah. Miami is possible and you Cleveland. Better give me everything I want. But if the heat flew some marginal player from wherever to Miami to cut him we wouldn't say boo. And that's what you wrote in Your coverage of it in retrospect was very fair very prescient presient prescient routes About like trade demands trade requests. All the stuff it's just players Zeev. Its players evening the scales it's not players tipping them out about his players saying hey wait a second. I've got power to and I'm going to use it what he's realized what's clear that he's realized and win. Horses book is it out. It's been out about about the business. Yes Oh good of Lebron James He realized somewhere within there. And and maybe it was when he said no no. I'm not taking less anymore. Max Contract period was the first thing you heard reported accurately when he came out. It's going to be the Max contracts. He realized somewhere in this that he is dramatically underpaid when Garrett Cole is getting three hundred twenty four million dollars guaranteed Lebron James in Los Angeles is getting one hundred hundred fifty million dollars because his sport happens to be salary cap. Four Years Lakers are getting Lebron James for four years at one hundred fifty million dollars he realized somewhere within that no there have to be other ways for me to make giant money and use my power and get my influence and he's realized all those things. Well thank you for taking some time I just I just. It's just a general feeling. I had that we've moved onto quickly from those teams and I wanted to talk about them and I was in Miami. I couldn't think of anything anyone better to talk about them. I love those teams man. I loved everything about what they what they did for this city. I mean it was a really cool time and just the the they were just a monster at entertainment take monster who won two championships and they have been a little overshadowed. So thank you for Dan Laboratory for coming on and and and taking us through what they were just trying to scam a trip to South Beach in January for you and your family so you can be an eighty degrees. That's all you were trying to do. Did I time. He'd related story or the reporting around it for the winter winter. Maybe am I going to regret that I am not going. You're not gonNA regret I am telling everyone at Espn Zach. Lowe's simply did this decided whether or not that he team from two thousand and ten was or wasn't a disappointment that he built that around his entire family calendars schedules because he wanted to get to the beach. And don't comment Dan. Lebanon's are no comment. Thank you sir. You all know Dan Le Batard find all over the place. He's the best in the business. Thank you thank you buddy.

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"Ooh, thousand words has lost ground. He's five lengths off. Thought that has the field church from honor APS coming after authentic authentic, the leader honor, a p. chasing with determination that storm the court there in the final furlong, and it's authentic, who's still very strong on the front end, and he pulls away whether authority authentic is undefeated as he will romp in San Felipe a very easy two and a half legs honore PIA solid Comeback Storm, the court, third thousand words but for. Now here's Anthony still and Bobby Newman. Good evening, everyone welcome to the weekend. Stakes preview resent the by Nyerere Bets here on the Horse, racing radio network on the big aunt, and needs to be all I am in Saratoga down in south. Florida's my an Bobby Newman, our producer Neil. Jackson is in our. Lexington Kentucky Studios Eleven races in all first grade. One of the Saratoga meet. As well as the grade one haskell now at Monmouth Park. What's happening bobby? Same Old, same old buddy, looking forward to a big weekend of racing for. Short ashore and hopefully can cash a few tickets. You want to catch those tickets over at naira. Bets head on over to open an account HR in twenty. Is the Promo Code. BET, you hundred get two hundred to sign up bonus for new accounts. For Two hundred bucks four hundred bucks I two weeks after the deposit to deposit to bet for. The to back into your account at the end of two weeks at the naira, becks dot com for more details cross country. Pick five this weekend. As always Lots of good action. And of Course Hospital Day Down at Monmouth Park Bobby. Always a big day of course last year it was an odd Haskell Day. It was so hot there that they they ran two races than basically took about four or five hours off and came back. With the stake races in about six six thirty evening. Hopefully we'll get. More of a fluid Haskell Day tomorrow, and it's certainly a big card as we get to see authentic, who we last saw finishing second honorary p in the Senator Derby. He's the heavy favorite on the morning line. He's going to have to face Dr. Post, who was second in the Belmont stakes to Tis the law. You know we'll have all six of the Monmouth Park. Stakes spoke no cross country. Pick five this week. No I did not speak mom park race ten. Monmouth Park race eleven. Race nine from Woodbine the royal north. The, Haskell! At monmouth, and the CCA oak, so we're going to cover all of those racist for you right now. to tonight here on this weekend. Stakes review presented by naira bets. Of course you can watch Saratoga live on Fox sports and local affiliates. Check your local listening to check NYRA. Dot Com for details on program. Information all right. Let's get into it will. Have the first grade one of the Saratoga meet this weekend. Normally it's the Diana, but it's a different kind of the. She'll be the coach Claude American before they run the. CCA, oaks the National Museum of Racing Hall of fame. Goes as. Race three. It's early on the card grey to. Field of six on the turf is one main track only. Entered now we're recording the show Friday afternoon. We took a couple of raise off the turf here in Saratoga today, two of the five races came off the tariff on Friday. Supposed to be a beautiful day from about four o'clock on and tomorrow's supposed to be nice. It's supposed to get really really hot. In the high eighties low nineties tomorrow Sunday supposed to be ninety six degrees. people say the humidity is going to be low. Ninety six degrees is ninety-six degrees. Folks So I would assume, we're going to be fast and firm. On Saturday and Sunday for sure at Saratoga to field of six on the turf, entered to from Christoph Lamont. You have the favourite on the morning line. Even money decorated invaders very little wrong six race career. He also has golfo. Who just won the Kent a couple of weeks ago on wonder of Cuff Oh was entered into this race just to make sure they had enough to make it go Chad Brown represented by the number one domestic, spending their the three that are going to take the bulk of the action here. And I actually think it's a shot for number one domestic spending to step up and beat some of these more accomplished runners and I think we'll get every bit of that seventy two morning line despite the fact that it's Chad Brown in Iran Ortiz. Sources look very good in both of his career starts a maiden win Tampa. Bay downs, and then and even more impressive allowance win last time out at Belmont Park. Looks like to me the further they go, the better for him. He's by kingman out of Crimea. So he's bread to run all day. It's got the advantage to the inside post and I don't see any reason. He can't continue to move forward and to be honest. I. Don't think he has to move forward all that much. To be the one to beat in this spot, and he will not be favored so I think domestic spending is is a good play at that three three and a half to one clip, and I think the ones that you mentioned the to Clermont trainees decorate, invader and goof are the ones that you'd have to use with a decorated invader. He deserves to be the favourite. He's never run. A bad race. In six career tries including a couple of graded stakes win. You've wins. He won the summer stakes last year would a two year old, and he won the Pine Ridge last time out very impressively. Goes from the inside post last time to the outside post tomorrow and I think this is a tougher field. Actually what he saw on the Pine Ridge so I I wouldn't take too short of a price on him. In questions with tougher field and domestic spendings wildcard broken made in a Tampa Chad Brown especially with the larva choices tends to send them over to. Tampa Bay downs the really good ones anyway in in south Florida in the winter. They usually get Tampa Bay downs trip. Domestic spending got that came back grind into a pretty slow paced to get the money last time those both races where two mile. Eighth I couldn't get past. Decorated invader ultimately gave domestic spending along. Look there. The to I'll focus in on go. Oh! I think this is getting longer especially with his running style and the way he's making up all this ground at the end of his races. He's very little wrong to. He got beat first time out. Needs rattled off foreign real I said though I really wonder if he's. GonNa, run back on the two weeks, We'll see Christoph Columba's named David Cohen to ride now. David's racist Christoph so we'll see how it shakes out, but decorated invasion domestic spending figure to dominate both the tote board and the race, the National Museum of racing and Hall of fame. The great to it goes race number, three, a mile and an eighth on. The Internet of course here, in Saratoga later on the Grade One coaching club. American oaks goes race number ten on the eleven race card, three hundred and fifty thousand on the line. Three year old fillies will go nine furlongs a field of seven in here. A French staff feel six other I'm I'll friends savvy Joseph has the number one tonal shape. She's a nine to five morning line. Favorite Roger Tease unionized. She gets a pair of blinkers boy, she six for seven in her career. She's done very very little wrong. Para blinkers go on. She was actually favored in the Gulfstream Park oaks against the skydiver She ships up here tries to get a grade one under our belt. It's Kinda strange that they're adding blinkers tour tomorrow. I mean you mentioned? She's won six out of seven starch, and she's coming off a resounding win in the Hollywood wildcat, where she was the heavy favorite last time out by almost four lengths that day, so it's odd that they would make an equipment change after all the good that she's been doing, but they do and Saffi Joseph knows what he's doing. Doing he's had a phenomenal year is out of phenomenal last several years, not only in south Florida, but wherever he sends his horses and this one showing an ice bullet work up at Saratoga since she arrived there within the last week or two that being said. I don't think it's all about tonal shape. I think it's a pretty evenly matched field, going a mile and an eighth and I'm really interested to see what number three Altaf does for Chad Brown and Joel Rosario. This one being Medaglia d'oro out of a smart strike mayor. They tried on the turf first time how she ran fair, not great, just fair, she didn't show any speed. Came, closing a little bit only beaten four lengths moved over to the main track at Churchill that one turn mile. She was far back early on blitzed the field to win going away by over five lengths, and it was almost like. Wow, you know this dirt Philly right here and we thought she was good. We thought she'd run well on the turf. We got her over to the main track. Despite her breeding, she may be better on the dirt than she is on the turf. She's only had two starts in her career and really only one where she put in a real good effort I. don't see any reason she can't continue to improve. She's going to have to pass these other ones who are a little more accomplished like Tony Lewis shape. Light Number Five Crystal Ball. But I think the sky's the limit for Altaf, and I'm going to pick her on top and use her wit, toneless shape and Antoinette. Jose I wasn't a coin flip situation here Between Altaf in the PHILLY I. Eventually put on top, and there was a lot to like about all tops, and she got a good setup that day but meant you don't win. Impressively she does, and she came with those big moves in both the turf in the dirt racing. Just think that the further they go the more distance she just. GonNa Really Thrive, and there's enough you know. Total is shape. The Blazers go on. She draws the round. She's got a thirty four and one bullet under a belt I i. don't think there's. Any mystery is so. What's go on when the bell. Rings tomorrow when the Gate Opens. I is the same for velvet crush who kinda set right off the speed last time. I need some money velvet crush last night when she got the money at Churchill downs. And Crystal. Ball comes in for Bob Baffert. HOW CASTELLANOS GONNA write so. Those three phillies have some speed. I went to the number six Paris lights. Who has been very good in her two races at Churchill downs, GonNa Mile and a sixteenth. She's another one I think. Stretch into the mile. Eighth is going to be fine. She's really just. Galloped home the final. Eighth of Mile Three sixteenths of a mile for last two starts tyler. Gaffney Leon You know having a really good season. Obviously, he's got off to a nice start and putting over a big price winner on opening dates our Toga. I think really works out the right trip I think she comes running at the speed I. I think Altaf comes running late if you. You could hold off Altaf I think she'll get the job done. I like the six powers lights over the three Altaf in race number ten, the Grade One coaching club American oaks. We have more Saratoga action for you on Sunday without at the end of the program right now we'll take our first break when we come back. We'll bring you the blood horse news. Update. And, the first three of six stakes will cover down at MONMOUTH. Park. You're listening to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by Nyerere bets. On the horse racing radio network. 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The road keen ice runs. A party continues us. Wolf home in Moscow. Second authored third competitive edge was for. This is the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets. Frank Marino Monte on the call. The two thousand fifteen haskell American Pharaoh fresh off his triple crown victory got the job done the shore. He gave Bob Baffert his eighth Haskell victory. In fifteen years. And as of now the last Haskell victory for Bob, Baffert, those authentic change that tomorrow down the shore, welcome back to the weekend, stakes preview presented by bets here on the horse racing. Radio Network before we get into that Monmouth Park Action. It's time now for the blood horse news update and a look at the top headlines from blood horse DOT COM. Derby points on the line, and a Hassle Derby points in the Peter Pan. It's Country Grammar outdoors competition in the Peter Pan, all pompa juniors country grammar made a serious move up the twenty twenty road, to the Kentucky Derby leaderboard July Sixteenth well-thought victory in the Peter Pan, stakes at Saratoga race course. was only his second effort ingred company. The son of tunnel is broke well on the jockey, RT's Union and carved out a space fourth just behind the front runners Mohawk Celtic striker. Before getting to victory Rod gave him a beautiful ride train. The Chad Brown set took advantage of his inside host. He trained that way and he's a bit of a grinder. He's a long distance horse, and we've been wanting to get him back out to a mile and eighth. He's a fighter or t says he has a great trainer, and he has something left at the end. Chad's horses finished really good. I never gave up and I was lucky. He came back. Obviously the logical thing is to point him to the travers at amount of quarter Brown, said I don't think he'll have a problem with the distance. We'll have to see if he's good enough. He hasn't run many times. There's room for improvement they are. It's a race. We hope to get them to and I'll talk to Mr Papa about. That wraps up. Tonight's this year for blurs news update download a copy of floors, magazine and tablet today from the APP store or rule play, or you could sign up. Blowers Dot. COM backslash. Digital Digital Subscriptions are also available and for a limited time digital access access subscriptions only forty nine dollars a year that dot com backslash digital. Run happy travers possible for country grammar. That was a good victory yesterday in that Peter Pan. Very impressive good stretched all between country, Grammar and Cara Carl. They were a mile. It seemingly ahead of the rest of the field, including the favourite mystic guide, thought, both horses ran very very well. Be Interesting to see what country grammar does when he faces horses like Tis the law. Yes, we'll see what happens. Just three weeks away from the grade one run. Happy Travers truly the Midsummer Derby this year, just three weeks from that travelers still sounds strange to say all right down a mama far half a dozen stakes on the Haskell card, including the Haskell the grade. Three windstar matchmaker kicks things off. This is always. Matchmaker was running Atlantic city race course. Hundred fifty thousand online as well as. Stallion seasons awarded to the top three finishers from exaggerated take charge indy enya sheet I know I'd be breeding to abby bream to yeshiva. Heartbeat Mile and an eighth out of the shoot they built for the Breeders Cup about a dozen years ago. There's eight entered now again. We're recording Friday afternoon. Xenophobia set to run in the daily rose. Earlier today at Saratoga on I believe she was on the ground. So zinoviev likely to come out of this. When Star matchmaker will leave us would've feel the seven. And that Kinda changes the patient. A little bit comes out I would think Valedictorian from her inside drawn getting some class relief quite frankly would be in front But I've been wrong before you see some Chad round here. The number five beautiful lover ships back from Santa Anita after finishing fourth in the gamely Joe Bravo's GonNa. Ride chat also has neely. who was beaten just two lengths despite finishing eighth in the Jewish Churchill downs and tap today. Antonio Guy Auto Rise Chad with three of the seven runners in this matchmaker. Not only did snow be a look to maybe press or go for the lead, but I actually thought she had a chance to win if she ran in the matchmaker. That's all right I. think she actually has a chance to win on Friday at Saratoga too so choices for her but going with the theory that she won't run in the matchmaker I. Think the favourite number. Five beautiful lover is the one to beat plane. Simply. I think she's been facing better fillies and mares than what she's going to. To see in the matchmaker, she ran in the grade. One gamely last time out was only about two lengths behind the winner keeper of the stars that day she ran in the grade to hillsborough at Tampa before that she was only a length off of winning that day she wanted monmouth in the past, and the only negative is the fact that she's kind of turned into a deep closer. She really wasn't kind of a deep closer to start her career so Joe Bravo may have to lay her a little closer. To the pace and the pace, probably as you mentioned from number one Valedictorian if she wants to get the win, but all things being equal I think beautiful lover is the best filly in the field. To to one on the morning line I think she'll be lower than that. Yeah, just the class in here, right I. mean of what's of what's left in here. She's the one that's just faced. The toughest competition, a couple of starship jubilees like you mentioned even last time he brought the stars and the other. That were in that gamely. She's supposed to She's supposed to be sources. She's one month in the past. Yeah I I would. I would think she gets the money. Rank is a little interested. In before she did not run well at all in the mint juleps, and you know what she was. Kinda bet like she wasn't going to run well. She got the race under a belt. Now Ram motion twenty percent when they have a little bit of. A of the start a under their belt, I I wouldn't be surprised if she held a bit of a better showing in this heat. Feel glorious the same thing, she kind of just ran in place, going a mile and a quarter with mean Mary and my Nat, last time I not made up some ran late Phil. Glorious did Just Kinda ran placement. We haven't seen her since December, so it wouldn't surprise me if she ran well and here, but like you tough time getting past beautiful lover see if she can get the job done in race nine, the grade, three windstar match maker race number. Ten the grade, three MONMOUTH Cup for the older horses, though though mylan eighth on the main track. We have a field of. Ten entered a lot of our old friends in here body express on the far outside bow harbor, still kicking around at the age of five just whistle another five year old Jovi of course third in the Belmont stakes last year. He's winless since his seasonal debut back in January at the big A. Favorites and number two longer Hilo, making his second start for chain or rams, I used to be in a care Jason Service. pokka Lopez Rides, the winner of the Islam last year over the track and eat one. This real easily all you. This is the best race to date for the son of K.. One King Pokka Lopez is going to ride this afternoon. Tomorrow afternoon all along the inside global campaign for Stanley huff did not have the cleanest. The trips in the blame at Churchill downs last time out blinkers. Come off this summer curling. I think they're to. They're going to take the most money in here bobby. So mananga he'll beat bowel harbor by four lengths in the Islam last year Managua. Hilo was four to one that day. Bowel harbor was two to one that day. Bow Harbor didn't have the greatest trips, but still ended up finishing second. I'm convinced that his races. Last year, many of his races would not only beat this field, but would beat this field easily I mean look the names that he has been running against and we haven't seen him. Since the end of two thousand, nineteen last race was against maximum security before that Tom's day top before that it was only beaten a half length by preservationists who was awesome in the Woodward one. He won that day. The problem with bowel, harbor is the fact that he's made a a little change as far as. His trainer is now. He goes from Todd. Pletcher to Great Sakho. Greg Sakho doesn't train as many horses as Todd Pletcher, and over the years hasn't been as high a percentage trainer as Todd pletcher although Greg Sakho is a regular trainer for owner and Breeder Red Oak stable. Who of course, the people that owned hialeah or may still own hialeah. So I. Don't know what to do with Bowel Harbor in making that change I would certainly use them, but because of that I'm probably GONNA. Put Number one global campaign on top. This is a horse that I think Stan huff and his team have always had high hopes for very impressive. I two wins of his career. He's actually won four of seven. He's ors. We really don't hear much of and you know that's kind strange horse. That won the Peter Pan just last year. He's made two starts this year. An Impressive Sprint Win Against Allowance folks, and then a disappointing effort last time out as the favorite in the blame at Churchill downs. I like the fact that he's drawn inside. They try to take the blinkers off maybe to try to settle them a little bit, and you get Jorges Vargas aboard this afternoon or tomorrow afternoon rather. Better price than normal to global campaigns, usually two to one or less is nine two on the morning. Lion I think is good. Races are about as good as anyone else save for bowel harbors, good races. Yeah, I mean he I wonder. If, he's truly a to turn Kinda horse. I know he's run well enough to turn. I wonder if he's a two turnovers I like went on the Hill I. Think this horse neither race. Last time he caught a wet track. He has not run particularly well on tracks. It was his first offer Chad Brown. It was one turn weighing its code of honor and endorsed. Now he goes to a place where he's one of the past I know his record of my lineages in great But you know he got beat. a lengthened. Agree Three Excelsior Akwa. The neck down at at Laurel. He got beat neck a half length in Queens County. you know he's got some racist here and he's. He's faster than he was last night. I really think the wet track would got him last time I'm GONNA turn traumatology. He'll see if he can rebound off a subpar effort in that Westchester and get the money in the grade. Three MONMOUTH Cup it goes race number ten race eleven before we go to break. To. Raid Ones on the car tomorrow. This one's on the turf. It's the grade one United Nations a mile and three eighths on the turf. You see are Clo- in here. He just ran in the elk horn didn't run that well in. The in the Oakland last time out. He's the five or morning line favorite Mike Smith. WHO's in Toronto authentic. WHO'S GONNA ride? Browde Kocsis said he's coming back and seven days. He's running in six days rather. He's running tomorrow afternoon. He's the five morning line favorite standard deviations right next door. He seventh to on the morning line. This is not the. This is not the toughest United Nations we are ever going to see bobby new. It's not the toughest and especially if you think that arc low is. Vulnerable on that five days rest which I think he it almost half do don't you I mean? I know he's the best horse in the race and I know I will use him, but I can't keep him on top just because of that that just seems like such an odd move and it's not something you normally see from Brad Cox either so. You, he knows his horses better than we do, but it's still you know we're. We're allowed to better our money. The way we want to bet our money and I'm going to use our clue, but I'm not GonNa Kim. I'm GONNA key number. Five aqua phobia for might maker. and. and. I'm I'm not one hundred percent convinced that aqua phobia wants to go this far a mile and three eighths. He's been very good in and around mile, and a sixteenth mile and an eighth, and even when he's not winning, he's been very consistent. Including a separate last time out where he was only beaten a length and a half in the grade to wise Dan. I finished fourth in the Muniz both behind factor this earlier this year. He ran well in his lone. Try It. Monmouth Park, finishing second, and I just think that this is the spot. Where if he can handle this distance, things might play in his favor so I think aqua phobia is the one I like on top I'll use arklow. Use a huge longshot number seven Oh Diane Isis for Cyril Murphy and Victor. Carrasco this was A. Son of Bodey Meister that was formally trained by Gary Capuano and has proven well at these extended races on the turf. Moose from a trainer who trains a lot of horses to trainer who hasn't send out that many runners so I don't know what that means either way, but at the price of twenty two one I'm willing to at least throw him in. Y- see! I'm with you. It's hard to trust arklow. And it sounds weird because. If I would have show you this race. And Arco ran three and a half weeks ago. He'd probably be the naira bets best better five two on the morning line. Right. We'd be fighting over them. Are, I thought Arkansas was the only horse that had any chance of beating Zulu. Alpha last weekend so I. I know I know he's a very very good horse. It's just this seems like a weird turnaround I. Think you need an you've done so obviously with Odiaum dyonissis I have a little bit of a weird. I have a fuzzy and. The number eight Corelli. WHO's a five year? Old Yelled at some point Andrew spent his career. Up until last time overseas for Augustine stable, George Shaw Strawberry Junior. Of course. He runs over there. He's got. He's two for two on synthetic, which bothers me a little bit better on the sin than it is on the dirt on the turf, but he all his races, so this horse went a mile and seventy yards in his debut as a two year old November. Of twenty seventeen, he came back in ten days a mile and three sixteenths in one on the all weather. He went. Off of a long of November to May layoff, he wins at a mile and seven sixteenths. fragging the Tori's rudeness source of Lot, too so this horse obviously John Gosden had him over in Europe. You know they thought enough of this source to reach out for Frankie to ride him, and he said mixed results, but you know three for eleven with three seconds of third. Earn a lot of money so obviously he wasn't running in the best places over there, but I'm going to say this. Three a quarter lengths last time. He had a little bit of a strange start. Go the Tiller over on Park and now George Jonathan. Thomas hits them with a little kitchen. Sink puts the lasix on. He puts the blinkers on. and He puts a new writer. Danny's intent on now. Obviously the rider guys can't travel guys and gals travel. You look at this work tab before he ran. Khanna quiet worked one dirt. More the not. He gets that race under his belt on the Tiller. Fifty and four on the training turf on the training track. Excuse me last three works on the turf and I'm going to assume this minimum equipment changes bullet forty eight to forty, nine and too easy, Blah the other day and fifty and three. Wars like Piret rights was outside. It was probably GonNa go to lead. I would be surprised a this horse didn't run that he ran well enough listen. We gotTA Ninety Five Year. He improves off that effort. He's GonNa. Be Right there. Who's going to be right there? Whether or not close shows up or not? He's going to be right there. I think the source is very very sneaky. Tomorrow night. The he's in the win. The one United Nations, the number eight Carelli for me tomorrow on the turf down the shore. All right, we'll take a break. Come Back Rob Rap. The monmouth action including the grade one hassle. You're listening to weekend. Stakes preview presented by naira bats here on HR in. And locked the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with Nyra bets sign up for narrow today and take advantage of your perks with the best live racing minster replays in hd, exclusive promotions and earn points on every bet, sign up for Niagara Bets today with the Promo. Code H. R. N. Twenty and under a deposit match bonus of up to two hundred dollars again. That's H. R., N. twenty with Nyerere batch. You vent any track anywhere anytime. Head over to an IRA DOT COM. Mark. Your calendars for the biggest night of racing in Charlestown history for the first time. The great to Charlestown Classic Great Three Charlestown Oaks will be run on the same night Friday. 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Laurel Park Santa Anita and more hr in is your home for racing's biggest events visit our website horse racing radio dot net to see our complete summer and fall schedule. This is the horse racing radio network your home for racing's biggest events. Bachelor, Belmont. A JAR stuck down in the final furlong by Bennie Franko. To late lead Dr posed has moved up on the outside of the second new Manica the, but it is but. Chas. Many Franko don't winds up bowel stacks. They took it by fort legs to the. Doctor was the second best player was third. New Medic was fourth. The fight time brilliant, one, forty, six point five, three, second total celebrate. This is the weekend stakes preview presented by Nyerere bets. Who will join his aw on the road to the Kentucky Derby. Haskell. Tomorrow at monmouth welcome back to the weekend stakes purity presented by naira bats here on H. R. N. on the big, and needs to be on Saratoga Bobby Humans in south Florida. Produce Neil. Jackson down in Lexington Kentucky in our studios. Don't forget. You want to open a new account HR and twenties. The Promo Code over at naira bets. BET, two hundred get two hundred had over for more details across country. Pick five lots going on tomorrow. On of those Monmouth, Park racers couple of woodbine racist to get to as well that coaching club American homes. We talked about earlier. Are All on the docket? Let's wrap up the MONMOUTH coverage. We got three more stakes including the big one of kicks it off. The twelfth race is the grade one haskell. My own eighth four three year, million dollars on the line plenty of Kentucky Derby points as well one, hundred, forty, twenty, ten, the breakdown first through fourth field of seven in here all eyes on authentic. Bob Baffert. At his three race win streak snapped in the sanity. The Derby honoree P got the job done at the Great Race Place Dr, postal second to. tis The law, and that Belmont stakes last time out. Back around to turns. He's a perfect one for one. He won the umbrella Kofu Park. He's your five second choice on the morning line which Bravo far outside New York Traffic Pakalitha, Saffy Joseph, junior have the New York red zone across traffic. Always seems to be a bridesmaid, but not a bride as of yet. And I don't think that's going to change tomorrow I. Think the two favorites kind of have this race to themselves as far as who has a chance to win and authentic. I think is the best of the runners in the race, and he's four to five on the morning line. He'll probably about three to five at post time. Biggest question I have for authentic is what kind of trip is going to get. He's a horse who either wants to be on the lead. Lead or close to the pace, and there is other speed in this race. You have a sprinter and number four ancient warrior. He's able to go twenty one and change sprinting I would assume that he's going to be sent out to lead the number. Six legged number seven New York traffic. They don't WanNa be too far out of its on Mike Smith. Who has never ridden authentic is going to have to figure out a way to not get caught in some sort of. Know. Speed battle with two or three other runners in the race. I think if authentic can get one of them. He's better than this field. I think if he can sit just in behind. The speed is better than this field and I think Dr Post is the one who's going to try to run them down and if authentic gets a decent trip I don't think you will. So It's not a very creative way of saying it, but I think authentic is easily the one to beat I thought the Santa Anita Derby from the racist. I've seen thus far I. thought the Santa. Anita Derby was the race. I would rate the highest as far as. Performances by a three year old I thought honorary p. was awesome that day you and I both liked them to beat authentic. That afternoon and honorary p got the right trip and authentic didn't an honorary p. won very impressively I thought the second place finish by authentic was still very good. He's capable of even better than that. By all accounts, he's training great coming into the Haskell and Dr Post who looked very good, running second Tis, the law last time out, really was not much of a threat to the law that day, and he's facing another big one in authentic Saturday. I think there's GonNa. Be Some pace on an. Ancient Warrior coming out of sprints. I think the plan is going to be to try to be aggressive with him I think lab the. Is Plenty fast. I think there's going to be some pace on here. Paco Lopez road new. York traffic for the first time last time. I think. He got the normal little bit. He ran a bang up second behind Max feel! In front of a worse pneumatic you. Both high on you certainly been. Singing his praises for Awhile and he ran for either a good fourth on steaks. He's going to be okay still. I think tomorrow's New York traffic's. I really do I think he's. The one who have the blinkers certainly helped and I think by process of elimination. He's going to be the one to the right trip. I think some of these other horses just have to go and I'm not sold on authentic, wanting the mile and an eighth. He didn't get the right set-up last time, but he looked like a tired horse I feel like even to starts back when he won the San Felipe Bay. Honoree P. You know was definitely in need of a race. Whereas authentic had run in November and January you. He had the race under his bell south, and then I'll repeat whoop them last time I don't know. I'm sold on Authentic I. Really don't know if I am like you said. Doctos Kinda just came along for second when the when the chasers and the speed Kinda flattened out and lane of the BELMONT STAKES THAT ONE TURN BELMONT STAKES! I've got a funny feeling new. York, traffic and get the money tomorrow. These are GONNA. Get the right trip on the Paco. I think he gets the money. The number seven traffic for me mile an eighth grade, one Haskell, million dollars hundred forty twenty ten derby points as well. It goes race number twelve at Monmouth Park race thirteen, the Wolf Hill, five and a half furlongs on the turf. These are usually. Wide, open races not so much the case in my opinion, we get a field of thirteen. One of them's a even. My boy shaky Shabazz. Is here the number nine for trainer Christoph Lamont? I start from Jason Service increased often to take over the handling of the son of Cape. Blanco bought after winning twenty five thousand dollars claimer up here at Saratoga. Last year went on to win lucky coin at Saratoga Second St Hundred fifty thousand dollars on turf sprint third in the Breeders Cup. He's been good now. He's burned some money. In his last two fourth in the world that trouble at Gulfstream at one to six, the silks run at Gulfstream. As three to five favorite. You know I'd say something. Bobby is one that crown race at. Gulfstream Park. I wonder if this horse didn't handle from Park. It is possible, and it is also possible that he's just better in front than he is stalking. I know that he won that claiming crown as you mentioned from just off the pace as you mentioned, that's kind of against former climbers and not pure state runners. There's a lot of speed in the race tomorrow. American sailor is loaded with speed shaky. Shabazz fast sing. Another song is very quick snow. Day is pretty fast. This is a race Anthony I think we both agree that the two best runners in the race shaky. Shabazz an arch dust. At least that's what they are on the morning line, the two, the two favorites both coming from. The trainers in John. Serve Rather Jason Service and Jorge Navarro who've gotten in trouble few months ago. Going from those really really high percentage trainers to arguably. Higher regarded trainers in Christoph Clermont and Steve Asmussen. Is that a fair way to put that? You know that the win at the clip that Navarro and service were winning, but they may be more highly regarded. In the grand scheme of things training way. Off. Have some. It's a tough way to go because. You know you're. They're coming off these trainers or whether you WANNA call them super trainers. Trainers who. Got Caught doing something that they weren't supposed to be doing in their horses. Have come back and some of them from well. Most of them have not run well. For their new barnes at least first time out so it, Kinda makes you think we'll do check Shabazz an dust. They certainly look like the best horses in the race. If they won the races that they were running, you know earlier this year the end of last year I'm gonNA use both of them, but just because of that little bit of uncertainty in the fact that I think it's going to be a rocket ship pace I'm gonNA. Put number five do beanie on topper Cathy, Massey and Paco Lopez. He's won three times out of four career starts on the turf at Monmouth Park does very well at this distance last time out Iran in a money allowance race at Churchill downs that was basically a stake race where Lester was second well abled was third, they both came back and won in their next starts and I just think do beanie might have the right situation to beat horses that on paper, look slightly better than him. I know he's going to get the right pace to run at six whether or not, he gets a clean trips I'm use all of 'em in my in my horizontal, the five six nine, but I'll put number five do on top. Five new beanie Bobby Newman. Own Voice Shaky. Christoph Clermont. Does a sensational job I. Know You know and source from Jason Service I get I do. Absolutely do, but this source is found the home on the turf. Two, hundred, seventy, two thousand, if only somebody would acclaim them for twenty, five thousand in July of last year. Only somebody would acclaim them quarter of a million in the bank already we'll see if he can make his first Christoph Clermont a winning one tomorrow down at Monmouth park thirteen goes as the Wolf ill-will. Wrap the MONMOUTH card and this segment with greed three molly picture. You know the molly pitcher. Was the first sporting event shown in color on television? I did not know that. CBS I want to say nineteen fifty one from mistaken. I also don't know who won that year so I I don't either Mile Sixteen Grade Three Molly pitcher. She's Julie comes in off a grade. One Win beat me for a score. When she got her nose in front of point of honor in that grade one Noggin Phipps for hall of Famer Steve. asmussen Jose for epic, the Mount Royal flagships down ships up from Churchill down three race win streak for chain of Chad Ran Pokka Lopez, knowing to ride those two phillies drawn one and two five two two n three to one on the morning line. Mike Smith picks up the call on vault for Brad Cox Number Five Those your favorite serology makes her first stop for hall of Famer. Bill mock her last who starts tale of two cities Charan well on the apple blossom bat trip, and then she was walked off, pulled up in the Santa Maria now he's here for Bravo outside draw in the molly pitcher. She returns to Monmouth a perfect four for four down the shore, my friend. I think she has to be used because Ramana with record and I think you can draw a line through her last race. If there was something really wrong, Bill wouldn't be running in the Molly Pitcher, so I think harass has to be used I. Think Vault has to be used because of a running style. She closes, and there looks like there's plenty of pace in here. I think number two royal flag. Though is the way to go. She's won three races in a row against softer fields them what she's. She's going to see in the molly pitcher but I like the way she's doing it. She's one who could sit not too far off. The pace seems to be improving trainer Chad Brown and I think Pokka Lopez. Put Her in the right spot I am against. She's Julian the molly pitcher. She will not be on any of my tickets well. I think she ran the best race of her career easily last time out when she beat you and everybody else in the Ogden Phipps, and more often than not. I try to play Phillies to regress a little bit off those kind of efforts so fact that she's favored on the morning line. I'm going to take a stand against. I'll take the horse for course Englewood. His first time for Belmont I'll use a little vault on. I'll use a little royal flag I like your style, dude? We'll try and get. She's Julie Addidas number tomorrow. Corologis for me over royal flag. Involved, race number fourteen goes. Is the great three molly. Pitcher all right one more break when we come back. A couple of races north of the border would mind. The Sunday stakes race here at Saratoga. 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Junior previews Haskell and CONESA club American oaks, contenders, Tom Jewelry, junior looks back on his first career graded stakes winner last Saturday's blue grass stakes would collector jocky agent. Derek Lawson discusses the impact of Covid, nineteen on the southern California riding colony. What's being? Was Our industry starved the week presented by Stuart. Morris Equine Forum tomorrow morning, eight to ten am eastern time serious to nineteen excellent to a one stream it live horse racing radio. Dot. Net all right up at woodbine couple of stakes, races, tomorrow, Mile, and a sixteenth greed, three trillium on the all weather up there We. Get a field of eight phillies and mass. To Go The eight and a half furlongs. This was a tough one. I thought body. There's a lot of wage going here. Yeah I'M GONNA take a little bit of stab here. I'm I'm wondering. If number one super escape can steal this race. To me. It looks like she's the only true speed in the field. Maybe number seven another time WHO's shown. Very moderate speed at times, but I think if they break evenly. Super Escape is faster. She's been sprinting. Relax too I think she's better routing than she is sprinting. In fact, she's two for two on non turf surfaces. Atta Mile and a sixteenth including one for one on the all weather at Woodbine. She's got the inside post I think she's going to get out and go and her good racers good as anyone else. She's ten to one on the morning line one. I'd be most afraid of is number. Three art of almost Herat Field Emma Jayne Wilson Mason last time out. On the turf at Woodbine and She's run well on turf, or on the all weather axes been in the money, all four starts on the all weather at Woodbine, so I would expect art of almost to be the one who's closing most at super escape. I'm an both of them, but super escape at ten to one interesting. Nice price is price even better prices being at home The Keep in mind by the way the seven another time cross entered in the royal north, so we'll see where trainer Barbara minshull decides to run her daughter of money. She's cross entered in the very next race. That will talk about a minute or so here Like you I wanted to go a little bit of a different direction here I'm GonNa take the six painting for Josie Carroll. Who stretching out of for the first time old for races have been sprints. She's closed nicely. And all those Frenchies by distorted humor out of an AP in the mayor can't imagine a stretch out. It's GonNa hurt her 'cause probably bring her into the race a little earlier as well I I I thought she was a little interesting in he I. Don't know why she hasn't been lot that bugs me. All know why she hasn't been long yet in her career, but I will I'll try and get painting turns Josie. Carroll trains dollar store. Store, Jim, the six painting from me in the trillium race number nine grade to royal north six furlongs. On the turf, the outer EP Taylor Turf Course. Again. We'll see what another time does she to one in the trillium? She's five one of the morning line in this royal north we had a field of nine depending on graduates. And I leaned a number five sister peacock once again thought she might be the speed of the speed. She's got a win. Third Place Finisher tour credit in two tries on the turf at Woodbine. She's never been out of the money ever on the turf one win two seconds. Two thirds from five career tries has a lot of speed figures to be forwardly placed seventy two on the morning line I think she can get out and go. Says the Peacock Stewart Simon. Emma Jayne Wilson team up With this daughter of real solution. Yes, she could win if another time runs she when summer Sunday defending, champion is back in here. She had the race on the all weather in the whimsical Stewart Simon under our belt. Last time out I went here I. Think I mean there's the only? Turf was in that royal northwest, taking them so long to get her back. I'm going to try her the number three summer, Sunday. In recent number nine degree to royal north. Ramp turn our attention to Sunday grade to lake placid. Eighth on the inner turf course it's for the three year old fillies. Field, of Eight. Another wide open heat up at the SPA. And another race where it's hard to figure out who's GonNa, make the lead most of these are stalkers or closers, so it could be just a half a mile sprint home with them, just crawling around there for the first part of the race. All things being equal I like the way that number. Eight cats pajamas looked in her to starts on turf at Churchill one at Belmont and I don't see any reason to. You can't handle the step up in class against a graded stakes competition for the first time tomorrow in fact most of the competition. She's facing kind of in the same boat as her. Her. They don't. They don't have an overload of experience. Against graded stakes field, so think cat's pajamas found a good spot for her stakes debut and I would also use the five key Biscayne. She had trouble. She had a lot of trouble at the start of her last race. When favored at Gulfstream. She's capable of better than that and Manny Franko tries his hand. I like a worse in this lake placid that it's a wide open race and I. Speak to me of summer. was to to on the turf last year. Paths off from November until the day and when she ran in the wonder. Five horsfield dominated on the front end by Sweet Malania, who just? Around the racetrack on the front and nobody was able to come close to her Man She looks like a horse that needed race now Christoph gave her the. Last time out. And there's two schools of thought you want to get accustomed to the blinkers. You want to run them for you. WanNa run them after they get race onto their belt. Christoph does a good job with both. I think she. is going to benefit from the race under about I also think the mile, an eighth star stocks to become a little bit of an equaliser. for these sources so I like her a lot. Speak to me of summer. The other Philly I thought was interesting because of the lack of paces cat's pajamas. John Velazquez going to break this daughter street sense from the outside post number eight. You know maybe he schemed goes. won't be surprised if they can get a shower either the gate if she chose a little speed, even blame debbie with Jose Ortiz. Again I don't think there's going to be a wicked pace in here, but I I can I can see there being some pace on. I think the two phillies don't want the mile and an eighth or speak to me a summer. And Cat's pajamas who's been good at a mile and a sixteenth both overstock, so I'll put the one over the eight and make the top picks speak to me of summer race. Nine on Sunday goes the to lake placid. Alright all eleven in the books time now for the Naira Bets Best Bet. Bobby Newman. Who We want to go to the. Fourteenth and final race on Haskell Bay at Monmouth, Park Degrade Three Molly Pitcher, and I think number. Two royal flag is going to get the right trip and continue her winning way. She is the second choice on the morning line three to one. She is my naira. Bets Best Bet very nice. She's going to be a square price I I would think she's the. I would think she's the third choice. Listen I'm going to go back to Monmouth as well, but I'm. GonNa Chalk California Winstar Matchmaker I. Just think beautiful water has those phillies over a barrel. She's got. A ton of class relief coming in. She has a win at Monmouth Park under Joe Bravo she should get a good setup. Beautiful Lover, the number five and resigned the Windstar matchmaker for me. My Nyerere Bets Best Bet Big Day of racing tomorrow first grade one of the year at Saratoga coach American Oaks Haskell day down the shore, as well should be a good one. All your action over narrow vets equine form tomorrow morning here on the horse racing. Radio Network Bobby Great Job as always good job all week. We'll do it again on Wednesday. Have a great weekend, my fan make some money. You as well. Thanks to the and for all four hours a day. Thanks to our producer. Neil, Jackson, four bobby and meal on the big, Anthony's Anthony, be, I'll be lucky out went. All of your photo finishes joy fantastic weekend of racing. We'll talk to you soon. Char admission.

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #60: Game Night

Rob Has a Podcast

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Rob & Akiva Need a Podcast #60: Game Night

"Wow the wait till the needle. Yeah that's right Rob Akiva Nita podcast episode number sixty. Here we are Dr. It's game night and here. We are with my podcast co host to join me for now the sixtieth time here on Robin Akiva Anita podcast. After a hundred eighty plus times on the Seinfeld Post show recap and even ten times to talk about curb your enthusiasm here is is the Great Kiva Winokur Akiva. How're you wait? Two Hundred Fiftieth podcast together. Something it's it's probably more than that. Oh Yeah it's more because we did other side right things and I don't yeah it's probably more. Yes Kita. How was your thanksgiving? It was great. I'm I'm a big Thanksgiving guy. I I probably Thanksgiving giving is you sit down to eat and I'm a pig and like I'll just eat everything I want in the first six minutes and then I'm done I'm just completely at a gas. If like six minutes and then two hours later back now Hungary and then the food's all already been brought back to the kitchen can bet you. How was your thanksgiving? It was pretty brutal. It was just me and my the kids for the day my wife was wearing working. Yeah and then I had to get everything ready and it was very simple. Like got like Cosco thanksgiving but I thought the chicken was already cooked Turkey and it turned out it was raw and it was like my kids were really tired appeared in every everybody was cranky looking looking ahead all right well we still have chronic. I know you're excited. Yeah well well I would be I would be very excited for Hannukah so but I'm very excited for game night here today. Akiva the winner of the poll was a close. Both of the People's choice. No so we did a poll. Last week listeners. Choice was between game night. Robin Akiva Nito Third Wheel and Mount Rushmore uh-huh and I thought third wheel had a chance but the listeners did not. It came in with Batman percent and Mount Rushmore which I thought that no shot at a decent showing thirty percent but game night got sixty percent got the majority of the vote for episode number sixty. Perfect yeah here. We are for game night right and we are on the heels of our golden girls episode. Like nobody really cared for golden girls. Yeah no bad feedback no battery but now a lot of good feedback just sort of happen. people are distracted with all their Turkey. Prep but not won't be the case today. So who do we have joining us for game night. I figured I figured we'd shake it up and get some new people to be there. It is Thanksgiving weekend. Yes I sent out a lot of feelers and I guess you know. Hey you've never been on the show before your eyes should be podcast. There would love to have you on but you know yeah. Yeah well ghosted by some people I got I got some some hard knows who are busy so I guess the people we have on today like they're the People's family cares about them the least among now in some cases they're just Canadian. I have no idea why they're available. I guess it's already two days after Thanksgiving. Okay all right so tell us who do we have with us today. A Akiva what. It's a game podcast and I figured if we're ever GONNA play you know we might do this podcast ten times. It's a hit. This could be the last launch of its bad but I figured let's start by taking off the head of the beasts the other game podcast on the RTP network so we have the BNB. Mike Bloom and Leona bars. You're to play against me and you Mike in Liana are here. And they're playing some games definition of the meaning. Hard No AKIVA. So that's why Liacouras sensually am. I can't say no to a podcast. They think is just like it's legally not a thing that could happen. You know the definition of that word. I assume that we were onto because I think the only two pairs in the network whose names scan perfectly with our opposite theme songs that makes sense like we can sing Robin Akiva playing some games or you can sing Mike and Leon Anita podcast and it's like there's no difference or your mic and Leon Anita comcast either the other way one or the other we on. I'm especially excited to have you here with us. And Not Elena Kagan for this episode of the PODCAST. I mean that was probably one of the people that had a hard no to Kiva into her own. podcast it's cold this laney okay. They tried to explain this whole Elena Kagan Liana thing to my family and they were like wait. Isn't she. On the supreme she has a podcast so very confusing thing to explain right and then we need host for game night. Now we're good. Hi Kid I can't i. Yeah we're bringing back. People like the people like the takeoff so much John Roberts available bowl. Yeah I just got it was the most I guess. WHO's the deciding? Vote on the Supreme Court. They should be the one to decide the game. Yeah I mean the Truth Clarence. Thomas is available. We're like no. We're good no thanks. Yeah so we're we're really bring back the whole crew from from the take a few weeks ago. We just add a little Mike Bloomfield occasion. So Kirsten McGinnis Canada's finest because here to host the these five games with us. Hello yes I'm here. Yes Kirsten welcome back. Thank you always love to be on on NAP. Mike can't say no to any PODCAST. I it's GonNa be in the Constitution. Kirsten cannot say no to a recap invitation so okay in fairness the hot take off got a few self-praise from the audience Akiva. Yeah Yeah I did a great job and the truth is I like episodes like this because some weeks we have to watch a long movie or I have to do some work but then a week like this. I mean I still do somewhere but I just send the host like all right. Here's the do here's like five people that are helping you with it and Kirsten I am like show always tie it together. She'll she's wanted to put in the work and she's really prepared. These games. 'cause I can't make the questions for these games or else you'll be cheated. Okay okay well excited to have everybody here today and hoping for another positive feedback of for listening to this podcast broadcast because really as goes. My mental health goes my twitter mentioned so that's Hoping for another hit no boy. What a pressure on people uh-huh and also the patron facebook group so this is related to barometers of my mental health social media? Have you heard of the Sun Rob. It might be good for you have to yeah. They're not good for my mental health. Either okay all right. How are how's the game? Nights GonNA worked. Kirsten should I defer to you. Yeah Yeah so basically we. Have you know five. Different Games is that we can play. You'll be competing in your podcast teams and the first team to win. Three Games wins game night so we might not. What do all five games we might have to do? All that games. Okay we mean to. We'll just have to decide which team chooses first. And then you get to choose of the Games which ones you want to do. So you don't want to start and it's like Oh yeah. We did celebrity net worth so. We can't do win loser user Bra so okay so can you tell us what games have you brought with us today Carson. So we've gotTa John John Presents. One must go tyler. Perry credited items did John John to be cancelled forever. John John is to listeners. Who might not know John John? No no no. No no introduction needed some urged people in that in that body of water and see if they can acclimate. Sir John John is they need to grow up and figure it out. Okay that's fair then. The next thing is the celebrity net worth so I will give you two celebrities and you will guess who is worth more. We've got the chain game so you'll be given. The option of of two chains could be restaurants stores or rappers GonNa be government departments. And you just have to guess who has more. You're more locations in the United States. Okay that we have the IMDB best roles while where you have to guess would IMDB considers the four featured roles of some actors and then finally when loser brower. You'll have to guess the price. Ace the ghosts of Hannes Shapiro reverberate through this podcast. Right now yes and felt Hannah. Shapiro chose the bras that you will be guessing the prices of okay. So that's her contribution there which is very welcome and exciting. I guess are are all of the Games where it's each team goes one or is it like that like I pick a game and then Akiva and I play it and if we win we get the point. If we lose Mike Leon against point no you guys will be going Kinda head to head for some of them like the celebrity net worth. It'll be where one of you will just go first. And then you'll take turns on different pairs. Okay Bronx Karadzic come in Pairs. We've met a lot of education needs to go into that when we played this. Are we working being together or is this like a fast money situation. Where we we choose a champion from our team to play? You can work together not timed or anything like I think except except the IMDB game because there's four answers. I think we're working together but were each answering separately. I think what we said right. Sure Okay Attorney Fair Enough Akiva and I have worked well together on the mass for Napper. Yes we did and we we were able to avoid having to watch scum But we have to. I have to ask you how what should the stakes be. Remind you taking on Mike and Liana. Today we have few listener submitted option. Okay what what are they not really well this the options. which is the loser has to watch a certain amount of scum which is the Norwegian Degrassi for people who are just tuning in for the first time? Yes order we have the wife Jeannie but only three of the four players have a wife so I'm not sure what Genie Liana would need to do. He just in Cat Jamie. I wasn't going to say it was mean ownership and then if you wanted how did you catch any. We will do that. And then I believe Mike Bloom also suggested Laurent in Jeanie so that would be then. Yana has to grant whatever ever wishes. Or whatever that's just owning a cat you already do that all the time. I don't speak cat. I mean I'm fine with it because I don't understand how this usable and there's Hello Liana granting wishes for well you are in the sense that you don't have to do the wife Jeannie win. I guess so we are. We are at a major disadvantage in the BRA price guessing game in on on our team I feel like could we get a a phone of friends for that. I wonder Kirsten no no. Okay text our lives or something. I think you should let let me call my wife just for the comedy value. Yes we'll do that. We could do that your wife Yes. I'll allow it some other options that you could do though for steaks you could have would ever team wins. They could maybe get to mess with the wheel a little bit tonight. Maybe they could say you know what this week. Few sponsor down to zero. That could be a steak and you could do where listeners are not gonna like that yeah the listeners. Get worse than you're angry. Emails do roll up and get over and then you could also do where air if Meghan Liana win. They get money in the bank pass And then if they lose you can be who the money but as take more of a punishment for us we have to do this. And then we have to come sounds worse than Jeannie. You Okay so you lose money in the bank impact on the one that I suggested to Akiva was. Was this idea of a book report. Where if there's a particular piece of television or if there's a particular dealer movie that we find maybe not fitting for the wheel but something that would be juicy to discuss? The losing team would have to indulge said piece of Pop culture and then talk about better on the next mail bag not dedicated an entire podcast but like hey if we have to watch Santa Summer House to talk about it on the next bail because we lost game night. Yeah that's not a bad idea. I'm only on board if it's the movie into that. No I just think that that would be funny since you didn't WanNa talk about it so badly we'll still. We could watch that next week or odd. Cast anything about when you said Book Report Mike. I thought you meant. We don't get along right eight like twitter book report on now not read about but like the. Let's say you you assigned the other person a random season three episode seven episode of a show of your choosing so like Charles and charge us after watch Charles and George Susan through episode seven and then write a twitter book report about the episode. It's GonNa it'd be a threat or is it down to one hundred forty cares Rodney tap guys come on longer yeah. It's one of those like apology apology. Things things and I kind of feel like that. Is anybody getting anything out of that. Is that the general eager here. Here's my proposal the F.. If we lose then we have to go on. Some sort of a a predetermined cameo shopping spree for Mike and Liana with with celebrities telling Mike Ileana how Robin mckeever are Dumb Idiots. That is okay. I love that yes and then if you guys win or we win. We don't have to do that. Yeah play for money. Look let's you know. Let's make things fair. We'll do the same to you guys. And so now we have to lose money by coming on this on this. This is this is just saying you should've left with the patio. The would be that you guys you guys get cameos of of of celebrity saying Robin Akiva are dumb idiots if we lose and then if we win or we don't have to spend money on Cameos I'm I'm with you okay. That's good yeah that's fine. That's fine I mean you know. We'll see if if we end up losing. Maybe maybe Mike and I can can wrangle up. Cameo often only ten win with Matt Hoffman. You can get the COMEDIANS. We might be able to go on and then also Matt Hoffman. Can describe what we look like the people who might not exactly superpower. You're not as good as Hannah's suggestion that the losing team by her. The most expensive Bra brought by abounds. Okay she does think I believe that that is the you know that is the answer here so okay all right. We'll see how expensive okay look. How do we start art? Do you think our guests should be allowed to pick the I am. I think that's that's fine. All Right Mike what do you think what do you WanNa go with okay. I don't remember half the the I don't either but I'm partial to the John John One. Let's things off on the John. John No I been so intrigued league by one must go. Apparently there's an audio element involved. Let's try to hook people in right now or possibly turn them away with this initial game. Okay okay perfect so John John Presents once go so I if you're not familiar with one Moscow posts on facebook. I'm jealous of you uh-huh so you'll be given four options in a category You'll have to guess which one John John Thanks. Thanks must go. We will alternate like for the first one. It'll be you know Mike Mike and Liana start the second one Robin Akiba Start. See I guess one of the before. If the other team thinks that you've guessed wrong. They can choose one of the remaining three options. If they're right they only get half a point for that. Okay whatever I whoa. Is there a penalty for the wrong guests on the the second. Guess Yeah and it would be at least half a point. Zero negative important. Yeah Yeah I mean yes. That's right the score is going to be all combined from all five of the games or it's just like you know it's a win. It's it's like a baseball game. Well why wouldn't we do two points and one point that instead of two. I just want to be fun to have some decimal points the decimal points in five games one and two. It's fine. I just thought it would be funnier if it was point. Can I ask. Yes the BLEEP. We non sports fans with us. Yes so we're playing a best of five game series today. Could Mike Leon or cursed I in a name. The one of the four major North American sports that has the five series one of the four four major North American sports. We ought to have a high. I would say I'm like hockey. Yeah you sure Liana. What are the four major North American sports? Okay Football Paul Base Jason and hockey. Okay you nailed it fine before has best of five. Well that's a great question. Akiva it well. Baseball is definitely not foot long is definitely not so. We've narrowed it down to hockey and basketball and cursing says it's not a hockey so we'll go with basketball now. It's not a bad gas. Best Ball used to have a best of five. It's it's Baseball okay. What yeah? Yeah the I n the NFL DS alias. Specify okay all right mets have never have the mets ever lost the DS Rub. They have now. I know only wild card games. Okay all right. Let's get to India as exciting. Sports Trivia is the panel. Let's get to very exciting John. John Presents One Moscow. Let's go okay. So the first category is Ben and Jerry's flavours. I think that we need to give a little bit of I know grow up John but John John is a long time Rob Was podcast fan patron. He loves memes. James Loves Viral facebook posts and post many or off topic facebook group of four things. And then you. The facebook commenter mentor gets to decide. One must go here today. We have taken these. Are these from facebook or these are originals. I believe that they are original because they are very tailored to recap and John John. Okay all right so we are trying to guess what a John John John. The poster of many one must go means actually thinks should go. Yes what is he canceling forever. Yes yes all right okay. So the first one is going to be Ben and Jerry's flavours mainly on I guess I the options are triple Carmel. Monk Fish food half-baked or cookie dough. This is a terrible game. Choice idea. The cut this idea aimed preferences for a listener. Actually all the different options are ice ice cream flavors. Now I'm kidding okay so John. John Calls into facebook Fridays from hockey games. Yup Okay what do we know about John John. He lives was in Florida. What do we think Floridians like in terms of ice cream? Flavors do we think we're going to chocolate route. I personally think that Florida is funky. But I don't know if back to that Hunky for Oh yes OK fish food or choke chocolate fish food options. half-baked was one. I think so. It was triple Carmel. Chunk fish food half-baked or cookie dough seems too simple to my left to Google fish. Food to see what Within the ice cream tournament. I think that you're allowed to Google. Should Triple Carmel. Chunk sounds good. Wait one must go. Oh right it's what he doesn't like the not using references it's the opposite of a preference I'm thinking Sonam looking fish. Food swirled Chewy we marshmallow in Gooey Caramel and chocolate ice cream. So I guess the question is does he like marshmallow because that's essentially the difference between fish food double chocolate caramel surprise. Or whatever the I also WanNa Wanna add that we have five games to get through all right. I give them. This game is going to be the longest one in the others will be shortage. Yeah we'll see we'll say okay Robin Akiva. Would you like to hold on. Hold oh I think I I feel like I can strategy so weak if we guess right can we. They're right for point. No no okay. All right What was the what was the other the other one in the middle of a triple caramel fish food? What was the other two half baked cookie down half baked cookie dough? I feel like that. He's he doesn't Love half-baked but I oh I don't feel super strong about it. I mean it's a one in four chance and we're risking a full point. It doesn't make sense the guy that's fine that's made sense because you've been on the wing half in math. I did they lose it do Mike and Liana lose anything if they wrong now. That's that's okay. Okay Fair enough okay. Good next question please. All right should I hit the question number one. Okay no one must go is triple caramel chunk. Sorry just know play bureau Calomel Sorry Chester Wow. This sounds like a Colby Donaldson s confessional. Where Chester? There's Jerry. Nancy Caramel ice cream. Yeah okay all right no points on the road. Nobody here listened to the ice cream tournament. Sounds like yeah maybe maybe not. Maybe not started listening to it. No spoilers okay all right round two and number two Rahman Akiva. This is renee rejected baby names which one must go so so the options are are low Milo Emerson or reese Keeps you take. Yeah take I read a book. Last night I read the whole book in one sitting. You're right and like it was the picture. Was that a picture book. The story is the main blurb on the book is like Reese Witherspoon saying the same thing that she picked up the book and then and then she read the whole book in One night. I finished it and she's executive producing the TV show for this book is like that's false. Advertising Witherspoon lying about this book for maybe she says the book and loved it so much as give me the option on this both. It's possible but I feel like it's it's John Show relevant. I don't think I think you said reese and I don't think reese is it. That was what I was trying to say. I think are low must go. I might be Emerson okay. Why are low and Milo are kind of similar off of them okay? Let's do Persson okay. ALL RIGHT WE'RE GONNA go to Emerson. Okay Make Leon alternate alternate take. See the only thing I think recess too much like Greece wonder John. John would not want that. Makes you believe the time and career musical. I don't know how to John John is with Thomas. You WanNa Yeah No. It's not risk. It won't risk it for the beasts. Kit okay. Perfect Brondby play number two. Please go Sorry I realize Everson Emerson is how many of these are their cars to eight ten twelve round the Lord. Let's go to we can. We can do if that's what you guys are under to correct answer in this game. Maybe for a first team to to right. Oh no longer than twelve you. ooh Okay. I guess we'll go right into number three. Which is essential holidays? I think they mean non-essential the holidays because the options are Arbor Day groundhog day flag. Day Or four twenty John. John have like a hatred return for trees. I believe that John John is a veteran so I do not think he would cancel flag day so I guess what does he like more trees trees or whatever the second one will just true applicable on multiple choice both for twenty torty really an official holiday to cancel. I I mean I didn't do these flag day. What was the one that might caretaker? They still get my mailbox groundhog day. I feel like I feel like it's groundhog day. Personally I had that gut feeling to Mike. I don't know. Oh how much of a Bill Murray Fan he is like. That's the only connection that really anybody has to it. He lives in south of the Mason Dixon. Line which doesn't use the PUCK. Itani fill things so I feel alight. You'd want to scrap groundhog day. I don't know why or why feel this way but I feel like John John does have some sort of like hatred for groundhog's trees. I'M GONNA YEAH WE'RE GONNA pay for people who don't know him. We're painting a very clear picture of this. I've met him once twice. John Jonah's mirror you see really truly a reflection on who you are. What were the choices again? Arbor Day groundhog Hajime Flag Day. Or four twenty yeah. I think John John would cancel four twenty. I think so too but is it such. It's such a risk rob to go for a point and maybe be be losing. Yeah Okay do you WanNa do it though. I mean it's a really okay. All right so let's see number three please. The holiday dumb must go groundhog day. Danu the new. It's crappy groundhog days. In the movie like Deja ooh that much he doesn't like deja Vu that much. Oh Oh my I love the fact that he did not because of the actual holiday but because of the movie that contains the same name as the holiday that he's never seen you said it has all the all anybody knows background as the movie Okay Okay so two zero Mike. In Leon Zero Leona been to to negative one. We had gone faster on. How Fun one would that be though? Just so much okay. So the next one is jolly be side. Dishes Jolly is a Filipino. Fast Food Restaurant loves and has talked about in the past list so the options are a buttered corn mashed potato jolly crispy fries or creamy. macaroni soup Hm Oh yeah that that cream. macaroni soup sounds so bad but this is not a Kiva Moscow I know but what is John for sure I'm Who doesn't like fries? Yeah I'm sure. He likes the fries now. John John People should know has some strange eating habits. Famously Yeah Right. He Likes Shrimp With Yogurt every night. Yeah there's always usually there's usually. Yeah Kirsten there is. Oh you're not a super fan of John Aja. Yeah there's always yogurt and there's always been honest John Yard. How dare you racked Agneta Shrimp Ring? Yeah the shrimping and shrimp nothing to me. I've never eaten it. I don't even know what it is really and if you did. You probably wouldn't have it with a yogurt. I wouldn't have it with yogurt. That is true. I I rob. I really think we have to go with the soup the soup zones. What what were the first two options again? A buttered Corn Mashed Potato Jolly crispy fries or creamy macaroni. Any soup fine. We'll go. We'll go with the soup but I I have a feeling that it is. He gets rid of something. That's more the the traditional fares will say pick the choices though there was already a mean one must go jollibee side dish Akiva. No I'm I'm saying he. Johnston didn't pick the four a listener. Pick the four and sent that sent is I had this work interesting rate all. I'm sorry and I thought that was clear. No Jonjo didn't pick okay. Oh make sure it to hear who thought for twenty should be a non essential holiday well but they wrote essential holiday equal. Most these games were from listeners. Fee So all right. Let's go with the macaroni soup. Okay Mic Leon. Would you like to take a guess. We'll get some miracle. We have to point to sit on this golden egg until it has negative points. So it's a good strategy algae for the end if someone's losing okay all right Brady to hear gas number four please this I must go the creamy macaroni suit and a nice. I don't really terrible suit when it comes to Bass boot. But who knows. Maybe the Dan Ryan crease because he likes hot soon all right just anybody was a dentist reference. I initially of like well. Dentists Turlov soup not going to be. We'd stuff in it. That's right okay. It's all tied to to to. Oh Man Okay was IT I. I seem to to correct responses right. No I thought we say eight questions rose by how our for feeling. Macaroni soup would fly through. Someone's digestive system. Mike you get out of here grow your own so now okay. So the fifth one is of a Keita's nicknames which one must let's go so we've got we all keiv Uncle Eddy or Weiner Kerr has it should be three for. What is that? What's cleaner that's my last name Weiner and then that's my name it out? I don't know I didn't make this wrote these machines. Ashby from Israel or Israel the crater in spirit pod. Oh I really wanted to be canceling his last name. They can only go by one name names on out. I see these nicknames except three knicker should be in there instead of Weiner written down for car. Alright Liana what are you thinking here. We've got keiv uncle key wheels and a Weiner Khor I mean the first three are actual nicknames. I've heard before Oh but again. It's you know John John Not so I would say the last one. Which is justice Cuba's last name? But I don't know I feel like the Weiner aspect of it has some I'd like to it the Weiner aspect this is something that's new fun is something that like. I rolls around the tug a bit more even on TV or over. We don't need to hear what would be your guests than Mike. What are you got kind of I? I don't know why I'm thinking uncle TV. I feel John will respond be like I'm not related to you so I'm not calling you uncle. TV or something like that. I wouldn't care. Yeah all right. We're going to Robert People. Would you like to counter make a make a getting. I think they're probably right. You do you think you think they were key. My why I refer to myself as uncle. TV sometimes in my house. And my wife's like I don't have cable onset. So what do you think you'd go with wheels. I think he'd go with. Oh okay. I don't want to try and steal I. I fear that they're right uncle. Okay all right hang number five row. Roll that tape. t-bone nicknamed Moscow when the space is sometimes last names as nickname as the not is not original for me. Okay nicknames were it would be insane if your nickname nickname with sister Nina. That'd be but I feel like if my nickname with mckiness i.. B. Okay McGinnis famously. Okay all right around six around six so this one option for TV show. I think I think we might get a TV show. I think Reese Witherspoon one John. John's one must go. It was based on Shit. My Dad says so this excellent is renowned episodes. Okay they are can spare a pod royal rumble. Aw Oregon trail or the master napper winless there. Now he was mad. He wasn't on the Oregon trail with US famously. He wanted to be he wanted to be on the trail. He does that mean that was canceled. I think so. He wasn't in the rumble. Well he did he wanted to be in the rumble. Being though so conspiracy pod was so well received but maybe not maybe not by John. John Maybe doesn't like right. Here's C. theories theories With one the mass rapper mass Ronca not like that Maybe they didn't like the singing does he. Not like shut up Tim oh he might not good. I feel like maybe some astronaut ever yeah. He's got no connection to that when he's got a connection the other I don't know they consider it. I think it's either conspiracy pod or the Yes for. I think you're right. Maybe it's been like so far you know like it's it's been so far gone. Maybe it's out of sight. Maybe he he might not be a big Antonio Guy. Oh everyone's a big Antonio guy does he. I think you're right. I think it's probably conspiracy pod Yeah I don't think he's got a person's Tonio podcasts. Bella scripted shows on the scripted shows. Let's go with conspiracy. Okay let's okay Conspiracy pod okay mic Liana. Would you like to take a guess. I have no strong feelings either way so I I mean I think it's just such a big risk. Yeah I don't think so. I agree that it's between those two concerns he made a number of royal rumbles after the main event I think that unless he's really just a feeling like he wants to participate in the G. He wouldn't want to cancel that. I do agree that I think it's between in spirit. pod Mass Rapper and I dunno metronome is just so much which one maybe the darker material of Conspiracy Potus. I drove him away so I I would agree with their answer. Oh No okay. Well then we can play number six hundred. If they're they're not gonNa take the net must go. Well I'm sorry if independence you but I would say Conspiracy Pod who I mean royal rumble. I how I was laughing so hard specially contests there was wrong and I deeply apologize to Jenny and Akiba or you know doing cannibalism. So I guess we're why. Why are you doing John? Apologizing for cannibalism was an AKIVA. Yeah I don't know there was no cannibalism do not apologize for cannibalism. You stand by your opinions. Are you deserve that. Then he should go on conspiracy. Yeah I think I think maybe he did his own where we got eaten war. Maybe he bought like two dollars worth of food I think when he did a AH yeah. He played the Oregon trail but he only bought a few dollars worth of food. So he ran out. Three out of thousand Ben and Jerry's yeah okay all right. We're up for to the Mike and the honor in big trouble. Yeah we get that okay okay. They missed this they lose. This was the one we had to have this game. Yeah we had to have it and we got got it and so since we're only doing eight total we're going to skip number seven because I feel like you would need images for that. I'm intrigue play the playboy listed. What was the question? Yeah but what number. Seven is Tampa Bay. Sports team mascots. Oh Okay Yeah yes. We'll skip. Thanks Mike Okay Anyway so this next one is run APP OPS ups okay which vocab must go candace Bergen. MP I'd her Ryan or baby ruin thought Chesapeake in this yeah. There's no baby ghosts. Child of Roman technically I notably. We've ever made a baby our ops. No I did say the baby was robbed Nixed it. We should not be that. This is not a good. Look for Russ grown men. Have a baby our OPS. But it's not even real baby. Yeah but even the idea of where we stand Kate Radi probaby gravy leaving grow and change your name. Grow our baby-friendly podcasts. Okay makes me feel like we have a baby friendly John John as well. I don't know if he would choose baby row win. I don't know how political slash Canadian Lee Savvy. He is so if I'm feeling Candice Bergen. MP I'm not sure about the other Chamu leaning the same way so I think we just go well. Let's go for broke. Let's go for Kenneth Because I feel like Ryan and who is is the other one of course no Johnson. Bob's the classic hit show rob with an upside down exclamation point exclamation summation not. WanNa we'll go with candace Bergen Rob Akiva do I think. I think we'RE GONNA win this game right now. We're up. Yeah I think I think it's for sure baby ruin you think it'd be rowing. I order view has a good chance. They have like ninety percent equity those. Yeah Okay so you're saying so. You feel good because the Mike and Liana raw. Yeah all right good. So we'll stand pat. Okay I play number eight. Please the OPS OPS now must go is between Ryan and baby rolling. I am GonNa go baby ruin because really you. You guys worked Harper and to be different OPS for the regular baby bruins parents ensue should be. We should not be ops with baby. Yeah we've been canceled a baby rub. I liked that we are so inside. We're so inside John John's head that we knew both of his. And so yeah I mean this will make up for win loser Bra. Yeah that is true. We're in big trouble in that game which we should not all right. So is it John and John John Presents one must go and teamer nap. Took that one is Kirsten. Is there one that must that must go into the podcast is there. Is there one left. You feel like that we have to here. I got to admit him curious to hear which bottom tier fruit John. Okay all right so it's between cantaloupe red delicious apples pears and figs which I don't think all cheer yeah. I think I think Santa Rope. Everyone needs I'm going fix. Yeah okay. That means I'm betting on on pairs and so that's number nine. Please okay free. Who kills this this crucially zoom that he doesn't like kind of routes look for me is big because I never had it? Maybe it's a pomegranate. Who knows the next could steer his pot are the biggest credits are figuring? Honestly I feel like we could just play all their mazo boy. I Oh my God I think the ultimate one must go. Apparently Alexander. Chester has made at least three cracks at him over that maybe John John is earned a spot on roast dais for feel sick Burns for Chester at the on January. Seventeen Abbott. Do you want him to turn that to you. Know I can. Do you want to hear John Too. You know old when he started pocket pomegranate and now he's a Should we also just do the Thanksgiving food one because it is a holiday. Yeah so that's number eleven and it's between cranberry sauce stuffing offing Turkey or Pumpkin Pie. Maybe cranberry sauce doesn't he hasn't liked pomegranates. I the similar to the family. Yeah I would agree. I would always say maybe Turkey. Because I feel like you'd go for like a different type of bird. Heard but I could feel cranberries. Yes I so. I saw his instagram post yesterday. And he said he had Ham Turkey at Thanksgiving so maybe he hates Turkey. It could be the Turkey. Let's see the Nice giving Putin must go is cranberry sauce. Because I don't think it's the food is probably like a like a condiment argument from why for hey calls it a confident this even right. Yeah yeah put that on the the second census Taylor cotter is cranberry sauce. A condiment corey question. Should it be sent to Armageddon up IOS do do we send the e mail bag ideas that we don't like to Kia. He's not a bad idea. I will be answering. Don't key I won't be answering to Wean Weiner also Weiner is one month ago making a a strong run for being added to the wheel. Yeah I'm I'm up. Let's see what people think John. John did a great job here. No I like the idea much. Like John. John Least Favorite Bend Jerry's flavours half-baked needs a bit. More time to flush it out great job. John John Their house. How are you my okay? So all right so Robin Akiva moved one step closer to not having to buy cameos for Mike in Liana a rob Ya the. There's no way we're going to pick win-lose Brosseau cursing. What are the other three choices? So your options are celebrity net worth the chain game or sure I m D best roles You have a strong feeling Weiner Ker the pretty similar. I think we're pretty fifty fifty here with the with in all three games. I M D be best roles. I think we should say well. I think that Mike is hired gun on that. One I'm I'm concerned I. That's probably true. Where are you implying? I can be mercenary. Yeah I think so the man to Laurean fry. MTV Parallel yes. I also think rob that we you did instruct. I do not know if he followed. But you did instruct. Whoever made this game two weeks ago? the celebrity net worth part of it to to make it relate all right. Let's do celebrity Networth okay. Perfect so celebrity net worth of very very simple. There are just five you've rounds clean and then there's one bonus if we ended up with a I guess we have to just do the bonus because then you'd each each Schimmel do three and then over the Mo- straight. When's Yep that makes sense because what is what's the range that we can get within so all of the numbers are in? Millions of dollars is multiple choice and there will be. It'll be two celebrities and you just have to guess who is worth more okay. It's who is worth more. Okay what can I make a suggestion for this game. Usually these games are ten. Five is pretty quick Can we can we Each guess is there a way we could each guests. I think it makes more sense for or each guessing. All the five. Yes how do we WANNA. How did that one team goes goes first and then the other team goes? It's just because like Komo honest. If if Mike and Liana say that they you know somebody's worth more we might think the the other way. Yeah okay fine but we both could get a point where you could miss right okay. Fine I think that's I think that's fine okay. So we'll go I this this game perfect so the first matchup is At Rob Schneider or Nicholas Cage. ooh Nicholas Cage is net worth is in the negatives right. Wasn't he bankrupt. Basically like doc. I guess that this will be an interesting test case this like career. EARNINGS NICHOLAS CAGE is way out of our Rob Schneider. But how much did he spend How much debt does he have? Schneider probably has more the bank than cage. Cage is literally probably as a negative amount of money But they don't know what's in their bank. I almost think you have to go with cage here. Okay all right. Let's let's we'll say well locking with cage okay. So it's so now we just get the other option you could. You could agree or disagree. What do you think what did you guys say? Nick Cage Nick Cage the man. I mean yeah I guess I would probably agree right honey movies. He's done. He's done a lot of movies but like I said it's sort of digging him out of a hole. The only thing I can think about is again going back to that rob show that he was in. I don't know how long ago that was. But he did have a couple of shows maybe eighty who is able to accrue some wealth with that. And I'm not the Adam Sandler stuff like maybe there's a little bit stuff like I feel like if it's wants it's going to be close either way. I don't think it's GonNa be a blowout. Wasn't there that Nicholas Cage Festival like you guys talk about that on news. Am Now all right. Yeah yeah got him some royalties from that. Maybe that'll I don't know what I think I think it's Nicholas Cage let's just let's piggyback. What's going Nicholas Cage? Okay so again remember. This is what celebrity network dot com saying. Not necessarily the facts drill no. It is the truth. It's canonical okay. So according to that Nicholas Cage Net worth is twenty. Five million dollars and rob. Schneider's is fifteen million dollars will appoint okay very exciting perfect okay. So then. The next match-up is cal. ripken junior or Kevin Costner. So I mean I know that Keller Junior obviously was hot when he was hot hot sner has been doing some stuff. Though right confusing like he was in yellowstone like he's been a lot more populous in the twenty. Tens as opposed to cal ripken right right like what is cal. ripken junior been up to recently broadcasting some baseball games yeah. I don't know this could be a surprise prize one Do Okay well. He's baseball player right. So Mike and I know everything about sports hock yes. Thank you Mike. cocky and I don't know being a baseball player makes you a lot of money right that's true but how much is he. You like you know. He's not putting out any future work. As opposed to Kevin Costner. I mean once upon a time. He was a huge star Oscar winning director. I still feel like there's some clout and he's not in the Nicholas. Let's cage as Cole of just getting money fruitlessly. Yeah okay all right. Yeah you're right. All right so Kevin Costner. Then it's GonNa be answer. Okay where do you think I was. So what they might not have realized but they may have fallen into. I'd answer. Is that people. Players made very little money right in the in the nineties. So you'd probably never really maxed next out you know what ripken would've made in one year at his level fifteen years later he would've had more money than costs but I just don't like He. He hasn't like flashes. Money around. What does he do now? I know they have like L.. Ripken Little League which is like Yeah I don't like it's gotta be Costner. We need to over. Think IT I. I think it's Costner. Yeah Yeah Okay. Yes so. According to celebrity North Dot Com Kevin Costner has two hundred and fifty million dollars and cower. Junior has seventy five million dollars. RIPKEN's pretty well not bad. Yeah that's more than Schneider. H combined is that why ripken's wife was allegedly cheating on on him because he's like I need a real man. It was worth at least nine. Okay okay all right. That's five Schneider's they need a guy where at least five Schneider more than you rip Ono. Okay so we're still tied tied so I feel like there's a good chance that were so let's go back here so let's look that both. Get points okay okay. So don't change the rules for Aright all right so so we. Just this is just for our Weiner conner and me okay so the next one is Brent buzzed or norman foul I mean just as a corner gas. Norman fell Norman fell. I'm bracket roper. Okay who is so visit. That would be the guy who played Mr Roper. In on three's company in the South the person who is he's the Creator Warner Gas and I have to think that the corner gas empire is worth more than whatever norman fell made aide making. Three's company no. There's no money in Canadian. TV though rob like it's such a small country but what do you think Norman fell was making on. Three's company for the three seasons. He has not worked as not working on the Internet forty years I don't think he went to the alternate side at some point. Oh no wait. So his celebrity celebrity net worth and he's dead alive. Then we know that. I don't think we can you know. Close all right fine. I really don't think there's a lot of money money and like niche but there's been like seven seasons of corner gas and an animated series in a movie that's eighty Grand Canadian. Yes that's GonNa have to hear this anti Canadian talk. Kirsten knows them or Canadian. I'm allowed to say where Rob Brent but I think is print pot. Okay so yes it is Brent. But he has two million and Norman fell one one million but also did pass away in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight so pretty questionable to put them in this game pretty questionable but are only the worth so many years Mike will be gone. Yeah Brenton is worth two million dollars. After how many seasons of Corner Gas seven movie said six six season in the movie animated show. I have no desire zero guests the midst first of all. Yeah okay So then for Mike in Liana you have a Warwick Davis or Mark Linn Baker. I think they lose rob. They will lose your famous only five questions on other six constituent. Here's the six okay. Yes Mark Linn Baker. I mean he's done stuff as of late. I know he's done a bunch of he did a bunch of directing and he was in the leftovers stover's but Warwick Davis I think is the one who popped up more like wasn't that fun fact listening to you guys. Warwick Davis has been in more high profile projects. Jennifer Aniston Dinner. Something that was hot take yes I was workday. Does I mean I might Warwick Davis but yeah you know what let's let's go with. Let's hope the luck of the Leprechaun is on our side. Yes that is correct. Where Davis is worth Earth? Eight million and Mark Linn Baker is worth two million. Oh Warwick Davis does not have eight million dollars less. His parents gave me a million dollars. Wow Hey he named Schneider right. Is All the leprechaun movies. How much money do you think is getting from the leprechaun movies in like the eighties? He was in he was in. Harry Pot- playing multiple roles uh-huh star wars movie. Yeah Okay what is it day player get in those movies. Wicked you on is the debut million credits all right okay. So I would do I guess. Another question for Robin Akiva. If they get good bonus round which I guess we'll have to be tied so either way you have to go into go to Mike in Liana what not who went out right if you guys. Don't wait. How many points where we each is to to? It's due to it. Okay Yeah Okay so so at the next one is morten harket. Who is in a Ha- or your Ashcroft? A I love Richard Ashcroft's what the lead singer of the verve Vanya in brackets there. So that's a Oh Aha has more money than the verb sure The verb probably lost money. If they got two stroke got about that. Yeah and that is her worth sixty million versus three million. The first guy doesn't have three million dollars unless you became like investment bank rafter. Okay royalties from advertising. I guess commercials that remember like an article about semi sonic and they were saying like closing time. has its own accountant. Maybe the one wonders can make the money. Okay all right. This is what happens if Mike in Liana. Get this. Kirsten this is something we didn't plan for. It's just a tie here What should we have a tie or should we have a go? You go to the random celebrity on celebrity networth. Yeah I think we'll we'll go to the random celebrity and then on the random celebrity it should be that then one team makes the the The amount the other team has to guess higher or lower than inspire ever get the sense. I mean K.. Honestly I think we should just go straight to that after looking at this. Let's do it. It's not act. It's a question of fact so thanks for nothing. Basically Jonathan Taylor Thomas MacAulay Culkin both worth sixteen sixteen million apparently so. I'm going to celebrity network. Only one million more than Robertson. Were winning three two but somehow this is going to survive questions. Yeah I mean I see Israel over here on this compared to the John John Category. Yeah Yeah Okay. All right. CELEBRITY CELEBRITY NETWORK DOT COM. Who's WHO's making? Who's making the person? Kirsten the tagline for celebrity network is the website future billionaires read every day. I find that unlikely. Not so sure they do that. Want to see how much every rich and prediction it's going to say if you're reading this website you will be a billionaire. Dr One day I read it. I'll exciting okay. So I've hit random celebrity and we just skip until you get a good one. Yes someone you've I heard of it. Yeah you don't WanNa just know someone ran well. I mean random in the sense of somebody that we know not like like Frank Weiner Schnitzel. WHO's at least sixty nine million for frank? It is giving me a lot of Canadian. The Lover Yes change your VPN. I'm not turning on my. Vp Liberty Net worth dot ca actually at celebrity network dot. Gov All right. I'm just trying to include saves for Kia. This is a condiment of a game if I ever heard one okay. So this is the first one that I think. The people who is guessing the number and who's then guessing higher or lower. Let's we'll flip acquaint let me public coin flip website you can be Tuni no. It's a fake coins. Join your VPN okay. Making Liana heads or tails heads. It was health kick arresting and get to decide if you want to guess the number. If you WANNA I guess the higher or lower the number Keiv. We should probably make the final decision. All right fine they can just the number okay so we will go now. The thankfully we've got someone faster Francis Ford Coppola. Okay ooh Coppola Blah. I guess the Godfather I feel like it's still raking it into this day. You know I feel like it's gotta be at least in the triple digits with the million you. That's how much the movie made or do you think that's how much he netted from the movie. You see that's the thing to question different questions because because I feel like I mean his daughters doing stuff like I'm assuming his estate get stuff whenever godfather merchandises made or anything like that. Okay what what'd you say for the UH I said at least one hundred million maybe maybe a little bit lower i. I don't know I could be more. You wanted to say one hundred million. Well here's the thing all right. Let's go off because I recall at one point. Somebody said David. Bory honest is worth thirty million. Do we think he's worth more. I sure more the godfather right like apocalypse now and others of us let Google this Liana. No I only we know that movie and others because the white a friend WHO's a really big film boss but I do one hundred million. Maybe I don't have a good. We just go with that. Yeah we'll go with one hundred million all right. What do you think Weiner Khor I wanNA? I WanNa hear your your opinion. I think I'd take the over on that. Oh Oh really I was going to go. I was GONNA pound the under first of all what we've seen from these five questions. Rob Is the site. Does skew. Very high Right you've got people who ooh like can't pay their bills or three million dollars. Yeah but what is it. A couple of doesn't have like a franchise. There's no godfather backpacks out there. Hundred one hundred million just seems like I think is the only how many DVD box sets. They sell it out of the Godfather again a lot but he get all them. He doesn't like own the movie. Yeah now probably got us into real estate. That had a ton of money in the seventies probably all that Francis Ford Coppola is has one hundred injured million dollars. I don't know is it tough. One hundred is pushed. I can't even holding more. It has sixteen sixteen million dollars yet. Makoko Rob Schneider's book what is Coppola Don in the era word where people could actually make like insane phase worth two billion dollars. I know but rub. He was making probably made like a million dollars from directing the Godfather. Okay look what was the salary feel strongly I will take on there. I don't I you've made a decent case but I want I over one hundred seems insane Mhm I WANNA go under. If Costner's at seventy five Costner's more modern movie Guy than than. Oh okay. Let's go under under under. It was a big mistake because Lebron or he's worth three hundred million. That's absurd Ou- Francis Ford Coppola. Does that three hundred million dollars. I'm calling up his account. Okay so so the game is only tied. We didn't lose on that. Is that true. Yeah question but we wasn't tied up. There were five questions there was no bonus question. And that's how we got this pretty no. We answered all the questions correctly. So just you answering your questions correctly. Rob was fine with being a tiebreaker and deciding the game until they lost and now we're tied now but it's three questions right and we answer three questions right. Rob Dakota Popular Film. That's worth three hundred million dollars made you. An offer refused griffey. We can move move on but I don't know how that was worse. That question was worth two points. We had said it was the tie-break. Okay we shouldn't shouldn't have. We should have pushed been pushed around so easily that we should have made them all right all right. So we've lost the celebrity Networth game. I came done canal moving on John. John Game The should we. You think we should pull out the win loser Bra here so I feel like this is being discussed like I have some sort of magical inside now and just how much bras I mean. I've purchased bras before so I could. Maybe give us a ballpark. But we definitely know more collectively Mike at more than Robin Akiva. So let's just go ahead. Let's go for it. Let's do when loser broth very okay. There's a powerpoint presentation associated with wind loser Bra. Shall we should. Can we make this available to the listeners. Rob Has a website dot com slash Bra. Yeah that's okay just make sure you're searching incognito mode or searching. I just wanted you guys to see the pictures or we have to be open to be opened the powerpoint presentation. Yeah Police Open powerpoint presentations. Go ahead I don't get it doesn't like there's not like the prices word answer all right okay. The answer answer is all right so all right. How does win loser Bra work? So we have five bras Because Mike and Leon choosing the game they can choose if they want to go first or second. Basically you will guess the price of the Bra and the other team will say if you are over or under over under the Bra. I think it's more. Oh I think it's more challenging to set the price. I think it's easier to go higher or lower so we'll if we go. Yeah I like that. Yeah Okay and so then there is one one other option. So you can. When you're guessing you can guess if you think they're like if you think they're like way off the new can that get double points on few thing defined way off course than McGinnis like but if you think they're more than twenty five percent off the price of the Brown okay so we have to do math to figure out? You're asking US do a lot of math here. Twenty five hundred percent off bras this as we go to robby commerce. We scrap that just. Because it's okay what let's grab that part of it just because it's going to confuse everyone. Fine Okay South takes its decision so then Robin Akiva. You'll be setting the price on the first Bra that you see on that powerpoint so you can see the explain explain to you guys on explain it arrived so it's a second to realize is what's going on here. This is a two toned brassiere. I thought it was at first. I thought those were just like extra straps but I believe it's actually tone but it is the one it is a flesh tone and I thought she was a very pale. Yes Then black on the bottom and then the interesting part here is on the back. Is that it bragging to the Dragon. The Dragon Bro. Yeah Uh with what would you was that lattice is that is that even a word. This is absolutely worth the price of admission already lavoix very fine stitchwork there on the back seems to fancy very fancy inexpensive. You've brought to me especially if you're a woman who wants to go out and then Wearing something backless in showing off the Dragon. I don't think it's like a first date or like I like you. You you go home and some woman you see a dragon brought I duNNo. I duNno if you're concerned. Yeah and you know to the surprise of few view. I would not need the first place to attempt to get in this off all all dragons. Have a weak point in their underside. Yeah yeah so the only thing I know about brought prices Hannah said it usually costs author sixty dollars. Yeah yeah I thought that's a good starting point for for this brassiere. And she she did pick all of these bras so like cheese maybe shopping the expensive vile. Yeah This seems like this is probably her style. uh-huh I will say yeah. I feel like about sixty five dollars. I feel like seems right for this. Okay okay. So here's the deal. The kind of like lace decorative nonsense. That's going on. I'm sorry the loudest nonsense going on in the back is for some reason crazy expensive so I think it's more I would go with that. So we'll say over for the girl with the Dragon Rock. Yes so mike and Leon and got the point this is the Victoria's secret dragon lace plunge Bra and it retails for nine thousand nine. uh-huh okay man all right but now over or under the Bra into the second brought and Mike and Liana will set the price for this one bill. Okay yeah so this is describing This this undergarment appears to the IT'S DEJA EH. Again there's some lacework see-through but even gold go on sorry colored Garl- not they colored. I took yes maybe up guys. It's not for for a a modest woman peers. I really I really concealing Friday Friday more for support than for skating. Anything goes Sort of like around the middle under under wire that would wrap it around. I should go and on here also looks expensive right. Yeah and just if you would like to call your wife to ask you uh-huh Yes yes we get to call you one time and ask her for help with a pre and they'd rather just lose the game please you. You said you'd call her call Nicole and just narrate to us what the BRA is while you also talk with her and see how she reacts I I think she has this one and maybe I'll check. Well that's it's expensive. Okay all right and I. I think this is pretty expensive like I mean. I'm assuming I mean look. If you think it's gold or beige or cream. I feel like the color sort of gives us a luke image to it so yeah I definitely think it's up there. Yeah and again with the the inlay. The the work it's done on the Barat also rob sounds a little bit like David attenborough describing also ask judge like the stink bug. Those words going dirty. Doug I also is that this could be like three hundred four hundred dollars not expensive. Yeah I mean I feel like it's at least two hundred. It's a good place to start. Also the actual cups themselves look like a Rohrschack test like their shapes in them and I can't stop staring at them. I'm seeing different. So it's this. Yeah this is why I chose an image where there's no one wearing the BRA Class right so my they want to go at least that high I okay. Sure Yeah I two hundred or three hundred. Let's split the difference. Go to take a look at us on T.. None why can't Rob Akiva over or under fifty it's gotTa be under uh-huh Bras out there. Basically you're paying five dollars per thread on his Tigra Even obvious let's go on there right but we'll go. We'll go under if there was a model this game would be the NSF. W Okay so mike and Leon and get the point again. This bras from a company called La Perla. It is four hundred forty five dollars. uh-huh oh my God had this throw in some out liars in the movie. There's a range. Yeah we miss the twenty-five percent they're also butts worth like five of these bronze into spread could cash out pick these babies. I should start a company. That's where the money is. Apparently okay what to call Weiner curb bras plus. It's so then the next Bra it needs it needs to be uncle. TV's TV's Braun poor am because shop. Name I feel like that's where you go and all would have is like the bras in boxes and like a like a huge display. Just where it's like loose bras in a been where it's like you try and find her side. Good luck okay. Hey It's the next Bra Robin Kiva will be setting the price. Yeah so this one here real real basic. Yeah it's like it's like generic Bra right the most generic raw mike. Can I say this one is Beige. I would say so okay and it looks like I mean the only thing that looks at least somewhat interesting here is that There appears to be some sort of like a the EH. I don't know what you would call it. The str- the structured like a with aware it's connected looks like there's a little more of a a sturdy housing there zigzag take if the last one was you know Lifestyles of the rich and famous. I think that this is. We're at the CHEAPO depot here Yeah I yeah I feel like this is like twenty twenty bucks. I mean this looks like a maiden form Bra I feel like I have a little bit of expertise. I'm sure you agree with that. We go a little bit higher. Would feel like it's very hard to go under twenty four bucks. Yeah let's go twenty four ninety nine. They actually could be really close to the price Mike. I might be slightly over. You know you think it's slightly over. I think about about it like I feel like this bombing factor if I'm going to put my mind in the nine of a factory like you're paying some high-quality money for these laws even if it's made out of sheet material we're still gonNA try to squeeze you out of every penny you have. Yeah so that even the cheap bras at Victoria while Chee Brazil basic bras. At Victoria's secret are still expensive. And they're just t shirt bras and they look like this so there is beauty in simplicity. Like I feel like there's a minimalist aspect to this brassiere that someone might want to try to slap a high price tag on by trucking up artistic integrity it's not a macro Macarena. It's got all the accessories housing structure charging. But so I think I think though. Yeah I don't know Mike it could also be made informants. It's could be under but we'll go you want to go over. Let's go over. Let's fly okay so this was from target and it is currently on sale for ten forty nine so Robin the Point Mike Nice job not listening listening to Liana on what would she. Yeah well wait a talk from target. Yeah you just might stop talking A. We're back okay. So as of right now. It's two points for Mike and Liana one point for Robin Akiva still anyone's game so next it will be setting the price. Yeah all right well next up is this appears to be a sports sports Bra For the first time here in this game and we have Basically like a horizontal pinstripe. Here kind of a a mid-riff anything else. That's exciting about this sports bra. Yeah the sports basic crawling around here. Yeah Yeah Okay. So here's the thing like sports bras. If you it's it's a similar deal you can get them from Lululemon crazy expensive. I mean because there's nothing particularly exciting about this one that I can see so this could easily easily be fourteen dollars. I could also easily see it being fifty five sort of similar to the last one in that regard apart from the fact that it's a sports bra so Mike what are you. What are you feeling Hondo? Oh no no no for that one. So you said what's like a general range that you would say because do you think we're going for the do you think they went to the Cheapo Deepa once more or do you think this is more of the doors. Yeah well you know we. We Make Games Mike and so is this a trick. You know. You're trying to get into the mind of the quiz maker now. Did they try to get to you. Cheap oh deep in a row or is this like a surprise one where it's like. Oh my gosh that's crazy. It's you know it's really expensive. I don't know I'm I'M GONNA go. I will probably go with twenty bucks. I think it's nice deeply in the middle. Make them debate it twenty six twenty s okay. Twenty six dollars okay. Uncle Key You have a thought on this. I just maybe she threw in like a really cheap one. This can be really really cheap. Really cheap one. I'm I'm all in on over okay. So let's go over and just to talk this through. Yeah I think that this is more of the Lululemon variety right. I feel like that the model is also wearing what looks like maybe yoga pants yell. It looks like Yoga Pants. I I think that this is this is an over. Yeah let's go over I this game okay and it is all tied up because this is from Lululemon Lululemon fifty eight dollars even like it could cost you basically said like you could cost fifty five dollars gasped when she said it. I think no cursing. Okay all right great boy now. It comes down to the tiebreakers. So so are setting the price Weiner Kerr Kudos for getting to the final question. Yea Loser Bra we just WanNa play meaningful games. We did so to set up. What's going on here? You see this young woman. It looks like that she is wearing a neon green a Furry cop over each side with with like there's like some leather I strap in the formation of a double the they're also add that the woman also appears to be wearing glitter later I do not believe that is included with the BRA. I feel like that this is some sort of like you know. adult adult novelty Bra. And Not really for everyday work or a function well. You don't. You probably wouldn't shoot hoops in this. One Yeah I. I don't think it's ridiculously expensive that I feel like that. The the woman with the big budget is Buying number two. This is more of a woman with about you. Know Forty Dollars Suspend I. I think we gotta go higher up. I'm just saying like she picked this very weird looking like bad picture. ABROA- for a reason. Yeah because he's here because it's a it's a neon green furry but she had to like almost like did you just google you know raw images midges and come up with five or is there something unique. It's here because it looks it. Looks Crazy and it's funny to talk about. It's not because I really wish we could. We could bet under here as I have such what what are you. What do you think it would be? I don't WanNa say I don't want to help Mike and Leon well. What are you feeling you feeling your tire? I think it's Ir you're you're then I think there's no value in forty. You know what I mean. I mean I could see this also being you know twenty two dollars also so we could be. I really. Don't think this is a very expensive. It looks it looks very cheap and tawdry and it's just it's the novelty it's not. It's not a real bra. Aw Okay we fifty. It's like something to wear to the avian awards that might be expensive. It's not hi. How do you know about the awards you heard about them? I've heard about them. Okay I will say fifty dollars. Yeah I really wish we're guessing here but yes let's do fifty dollars fifty dollars. This is like some sort of Rave Bra kind of thing you would wear to like a music festival or something something like that running at night going to reflect the light of the car is I think it's I think it's under fifty. I I would. I mean it. Looks like someone's doing like fem. Bot 'cause play from Austin powers I I really feel like honestly it's the further that brings the price down because like cost of materials like you're getting a few muppets to put this thing together does feel demonstrably cheaper than something like the Gold Laddis. I think it's cheaper than fifty fifty. All right let's do wonder okay. I thought you guys win because it was thirty dollars plus shipping at from. FC is a rave festival type taper off so great job on win loser Bra. Ah Hannah's final comments after sending it was. I think I sent you a fun range. You have crazy expensive crazy tape a furry bra a sports Bra anamour average one the reasoning behind all those brought all right has spirit. Thank you so much for all of your health and in for for all your hard work we will be sending you the Furry Bra Around cost as as per your request quest. She said no one. which is the La Perla us? Four hundred forty five dollars. I don't think that and you should probably outside of my bra budget for women. I'm not married to okay all right. So we are in a must-win win situation. Yeah yeah all hands on deadline for all right. What a hold on before we get to game number four then let me do one one the piece of business here before we move on and let me take a moment and thank one of our sponsors for this episode of the podcast and those are good friends over at CBS? CBS All access. Who have a series? Tell me a story. Everybody Remembers Their favorite fairy tales rowing up. Mikey the are you reading any fairy tales at bedtime these days. 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Yeah it's our turn to pick the guy with our lives on the line We've got the chain dam or the IMDB after all well we have to win both of them so it really doesn't matter you WANNA save the chain game Akiva. I think we should play it because you said I am. Mike is just such incredible pop culture knowledge it has an advantage advantage tiebreaker in Jinks Mike although we thought he had a pop-up knowledge now but then it sounded like he was just googling those people and he didn't really put a secret fast fingers. Okay well all right. Let's let's play the chain game so chain game. We have about a million different for ones here. But I think I two eight points wins. Why points I'm choking calmed down? Grow up guys and grow up okay. So we're going to go like each team is just GonNa Guess. It's not going to be both people people guessing because I gave us how many how many questions that he's sending. He sent a million. We do not have to do all of them. There's one two for five six seven sixteen. We don't need to do sixteen of these. I won the five points rob. Should we do that. Okay sure now I think I think this is fair so then because you guys chose the game Robert and Keith. That get to go first. The first matchup which of these he's chain restaurants has more locations in the United States starbucks or McDonald's Yeah I think these are probably the two with the most rob right. I think that subway somehow is actually the most I know but they closed allow. You Might WanNa sit down. Have something really. I feel like it's starbucks because I feel like that. There's like a starbucks in every hotel. I know McDonald's has a big head start but I think I'd say starbucks. Yeah let's go starbucks. Hey nine is correct starbucks as when I was sent these numbers. Add fourteen thousand. Three hundred and McDonald's had thirteen thousand eight hundred eighty four. Close one okay perfect okay. So then Mike in Liana the when you get is crispy cream or Tim Horton and in the US just to be in the US. I feel like it's grisly. Because Tim Horan has been a recent advent advent to the east coast but previously it was only really in the Midwest. Yeah I mean. I've only seen it in Canada which doesn't count right so crowns Canadian listeners accounts for this game of course yes yes we'll go with crispy cream. Hey on his incorrect. A nine hundred fifty five locations I guess and two more eight hundred him for really I mean according to what see sent me okay now that might include Canada. Let's Google it and keep going AKIVA. Absolutely does not include Canada on in my university campus. There were four. Tim Hortons yet but was university campus. One hundredth of the entire nation. Maybe now okay good to know. Fast Finger Bloom googling. How many important candidate? Because that's the most insane thing I've ever heard heard the small country. Kirsten now our home nation is is very proud school okay so at the end of I twenty eighteen. There were four thousand three hundred in Canada so I guess thirty two hundred closed the Canadian conversion also and twenty Lisa there as an eight hundred twenty three. So let's just keep moving one thing Robin Akiva. I just I enough and now you're right you're right you're right under free but there's a lot of them okay. So then Robin Kiva Eh you got Taco Bell or Wendy's is pretty close to the point where we're almost flipping a coin with some of them. You have a strong feeling. I feel like it's it's I with the Taco Bell You're YOU'RE GONNA have you know some Taco Bell. KFC's right so so. I feel like there's more like Like Taco Bell Express and stuff like totally. There's no when these express. Yeah I've never been in either of these these restaurant okay all right I'm a much bigger Wendy's guy but I think the answer is Taco Bell. I feel like I'm a big win. These guys to even though again. I've never been there like get your. Yeah I would love Windy. Yeah make a Kosher Wendy somebody let's keep it being like perspective fan of things because he's actually. Yeah it into indulgent. I'm a fan of restaurants that I've never been to the prospective stand bracket. That's an idea the wheel okay. I've always we saw if the if I ever stop keeping kosher like where's the first place I would go and Wendy's might be high in the list if this don't in-and-out nearby or something. Yeah Okay we're going to go with Taco Bell. Hey that is incorrect. Do so Taco Bell had five thousand six hundred four and Wendy's had five thousand eight hundred. And Oh hi. This is Mike Flipping living here last guy. Yeah I didn't make the game again. There's no Harrier right right. Give a minus one for that. Kirsten if you if we don't see I don't know it'd be in the know. Nobody the point one. Nothing Robin Akiva Nature Point. Because you don't like to not going. Hey It is now Chili's Chili's or Applebee's ooh the Christmas choice. I feel like there's the same number is corruption trick third option. Oh Man God this is tough like I would not be surprised if there was a difference of like ten. You know okay so I can only speak from my personal experience so I knew of Applebee's before I knew of Chile's so I don't know what that says but it may mean that there are more more applebee's all right. Let's slumdog millionaire this. Leon I will go with Applebee's not is correct there are you're one thousand two hundred and seventy applebee's and one thousand two hundred forty two jellies. How Big One? They also put just for comparison. There are eight hundred sixty six olive garden's okay back to Robin Akiva. H At one right now one. Yeah Yeah we might have to if we end up going all sixteen of these little. Just whoever's most point okay so you have pizza hut and Domino's what's your first thought here. I kind of feel at first. I was like well. There's more like Pizza Hut Taco bells. Yeah but then I feel like this is not a lot of domino's stores cover a lot of ground that I feel like that might be pizza. Pizza that is correct. Pizza has a seven thousand. Four hundred ninety. Six dominoes has five thousand. Eight hundred and seventy-six seventy six right. No come okay. So we've given the recent news anyways the case so thinking Leon I get target and bed bath and beyond Oh target stores is now yeah. I think it's gotta be target. Triple B is something that I've experienced but I feel like it's not a popular around the country as much as the death and beyond coupon nukes. So but I think it's target you're confirming targeting target. It is in fact they have just over eight hundred more stores in bed bath and beyond eighteen. That's also that I would think yes. Have you guys considered adding a beyond to the Bloomberg. Borough Boris podcast. That's where Mike the Beyond I think. Yeah I think what the should probably go to be to get some new battering Heo. Although I hear I control the point so Robin Akiva. You get a Sam's club or Costco. If there's more Sam's Club Cosco's then I don't want to be on this planet. Say the Costco. I've never been to Sam's Club Sam's Club Costco a lot. Yeah me too. Everyone's been the Arab just went to Costco. Get thanksgiving I did I really comer summer around on a one eighty on Cosco from when we were debating standing in the stands ornament standing. You think twenty twenty we could stand COSCO I'm standing in two thousand nine hundred about officially I'll say more COSCO THAN SAM slow but I but I I to be honest. I have no idea what's going on. Why is he asking this? Maybe it's it's like Oh you think it's Cosco so Sam's Club like Sam's Club Cou could be you know way more in the south or something banquets. Yeah it's Sir middle of the country. I'LL SAY COSTCO And it is very close but it is actually Sam's Club Sam's Club has has five hundred and ninety. Three and Costco has five hundred. Thirty Nine High Weird right to to to to to to okay making the ankle Bra emporiums there. One is all the new starbucks one on every corner. God so phone Barnes and noble or the Apple Store ooh Barnes and noble this it does still exist right the defensive up Orangeville nobles like my my own stock of where I always go when I need to waste time I feel like Apple. Stores is more of like a one percent. Can't type A store and Barnes and over a little bit more of like the. You know the Joey Hockey player that type of like blue collar. Well who is the only one percenters go to the apple store and Joey hockey player goes to Barnes and noble you know the average man. Njit you're going to read a book you know. How much is the average Joe? Hockey player loves reading books. I was thinking of a Joe. The plumber is not what Sarah Palin came up with it for some reason Joey on a real guy I don't think he's just. She came up with him he was like I guess. The question of debate prefers we'll go to barnes and noble. I am not as correct correct. There are Twenty Earns Noval and only two hundred seventy two apples Murray Gordon. Yes Joey the hockey player can be. You've been next. Proprietor of one must go when he played player presents. One must club all those one percents percents at the apple store can suck elitist lead just apple store not okay okay. So it's now three Jeff. Minimalist matchbooks froze its simplicity as beauty so now it is three meals tonight tonight. Robin Akiva you get dollar tree or dollar general Wow I think that dollar general I think is actually is on the the stock market. Not Sure I'll tree. You do own shares. I uh did hear. It was a recession proof. Stock I wanted was dollar. Don't know anything about. I'll see dollar general all right. Let's do it and that's correct. Nice I up again. Dollar General has sixteen thousand one. Eighty seven dollar tree has fifteen thousand two hundred thirty seven a lot more than McDonald's and starbucks. Yeah yeah same. Dollar Tree. Tree is on the nesting. Yeah Fun fact. Dollar related a family dollar earlier. which could have been this conversation? Had A CEELO named Mike Limb. Oh ooh okay did. Did they take you on facebook. Also Yes let's like that. One New York are times reporter Mike Bloomberg And tag you. Oh Okay Okay I mike in Liana. You've got best Western or motel six. Oh I've stayed in and more best Western's okay. Let's Petro Report. I'm one of those elitist one percent or is that the apple store and from the apple store and you'd go to your your best Western's there's no there's no one percenters in either these places. This probably more motel six fixes. I mean I guess we have to think about like the open country you know like I. You're right I think there might be more motel six's readily really available like if you if you drive down a highway in the middle of Kansas. You're probably more likely to see a motel six right. Yeah I guess so all right. Let's go with Bud L. Six can't you shut have slumped on slumdog millionaire yet. Best Western has two thousand. Motorbikes has thirteen hundred wow AH doors open open so the ironically named Best Western actually makes i. I really hoping Kia is one of these Chains exactly how many ideas there. I just want to save David for q three three show three two three. It's now Jeeva and used to I would pick I keel over whatever else it was up against okay. I Love Ikea. So you guys post offices or banks what Shane. Hey I mean I feel like. There's one post office per city in several banks several bags. I'd say many cities have have like at least three or four bet. Yeah Type of bank bank. We'll say bank branches is this like us. Gover what banks is this. That doesn't make any sense train. There's probably more Citibank's than like than post office and that's just one bank banks. I'm really sorry. I cannot provide information trick trick bowls. We'll say banks you want with banks. It is a trick. Apparently they are thirty. One Thousand Three hundred twenty eighty four post offices but only forty seven o eight banks which seems wrong to me but numbers there must have been some sort of. Yeah yes there can only be forty seven hundred banks. This four banks Kirsten's college. How many pizza huts were there grace? Yeah what's the Pizza Hut per bank. CHAPA I don't even know where the post office is where I grew up and I can think of like ten banks. I'd have to walk s to get there okay. If if I knew way we're counting mailboxes. Be I don't know I so three to three so I can put the box. It's like a mini post office stamps. ABS- dot Com accounts also. Yeah any any home can be opposed statute stamps dot com at so again. It is still all tied up. I only have four more. One goes so gotten there Mike and the lightning round though here chain you were almost police departments or fire departments lease. I'll go with that. Is Fire Department hum by like ten thousand ish. Okay Robin movie theaters. Walmart's Phillips's You know at least a movie theater or two in every city and I feel like that but this isn't screens this. Is I think a lot of movie theaters have gone by the wayside. That's my fear but the problem is there. Aren't that many walmarts. 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA like to Walmart's near me. I thought and movie theaters I. I'm going to be annoying. I really I've been wrong every single. Go with the keys elite with Weiner Ker. Let's go walmart's wrong incorrect. I've been waiting all day like go out. Okay again. Still all tied up one of you need Santa Question. 'cause I don't know what to do. So then. I U S area codes or New York City. Subway stops you on this anymore. This is not a lot area. Codes are there more feathers on of bird or toes on a tortoise indigo feather. It's the courage graded toes on a tortoise. So I feel like there are apparently like a hundred subway stops or so a maybe just a Manhattan Alot but I feel like there's gotta be more than one hundred area codes right okay. Area codes in subway stops Ah One hundred and seventy two subway stops Mike nerd city I very codes in the US. Okay all right for the game now yeah so now. I'm trying to think like how do we have an idea of an idea. Okay please all right. You're going to ask the question and we're each gonNA guess we'll go first. They could disagree if we each agree. Then I think we have. Let's say it's like post office wherever we have to pick a number and whoever's closest with the number will win okay how what you have one question left of things. Yeah yeah all right so just pick one of them and then we'll do the. Let's just do the higher or lower game okay. Perfect is does that sound. Is that okay for everybody. Perfect Okay and our our guessing or are we saying higher or lower or we're gonNA pull out the old coin flip again. That's how I make decisions in this World K.. Rob Heads or tails heads and has had so you can choose if you WANNA guess or if you want to do the over and we would like to do the over-under okay mic in Liana. How many ZIP codes do you think there are in the United States? Zip Codes Okay so I guess we should compare them to area codes right because there were three three hundred area codes not be at least in the hundreds. It's it's got to be more than that because in new haven the city of new haven which is super super tiny. There's like eight area codes or ZIP codes. I'm we're at least in the five digits. You Okay so far. Yeah okay all right. Yeah I would agree with that. Let's say like twenty thousand glares. I want to go even higher. Yeah like forty two thousand. Yeah Forty two thousand sixty nine nine. Hey that's my zipcode. Would've don't turn off this podcast. We just include your lease essential holiday in there. You can we phone on the mailman real quick notion he retired anymore. We probably made him forget. Yeah I would say it's higher acuity. Yeah this is. This is tricky because basically the question is is every zip code taken. Yeah because there's there's there's so many hero but you also need a lot of places that they've had it to add another four digits so they need more zip codes so you think that but I don't think they're taking because I think it's like let's say it's something that starts like New York the starts with one zero zero But a lot of places like they. You don't feel alright. New Jersey has whatever it is they do have zero also. So it's not it's not just Man I I don't know this is tough. I'd say there's either like every single ones taken or it's not even close it's ten thousand. I guess because I've been wrong every I say I say it's higher. Okay run or are you are you. Are you on board. Let's just do. I don't even want to speak lower but you know I just think like there. There's no there's no zero zero zero zero. Oh you know what I mean. There's no like zero one. It just seems like a lot of the options probably aren't taken but forty two thousand seems like so are there forty two thousand but then like they were sort of saying like my small neighborhood. There's six area you know they're six zip codes so like every single. What do you want to be? Oh Oh man. Let's go onto okay. Lo Let's say let's say over three Holloway. Wait hold on. I'm dying right now are you okay. Yeah just needed some rob. I can't decide you and uh-huh I say it's higher all right. Let's go higher. Kirsten are we going to a game. Five which rob is probably trying to get this who lost also. Yeah we are. You're not going to a car. Are Forty two thousand zip code. What they guessed it on the number? That's crazy yeah well so yeah alright. So sixty-nine nine but let's go to Mike in Leon winner of the first inaugural game night. Yeah you don't WanNa play one one round of the IMDB game. I think we need to get to the mail bag for work in about forty five minutes a Unless we want to do a new segment on the show where my wife comes up here and yells at me that she needs to go to work but if she does that we could ask her some prices. So let's it might be an apologist described the bras that we talk about what helpless situation so all right. Let's start to Segue to tailback. Is Anybody staying for the mail bag. I I'm I'm leaving. Leon is not staying for the mailbag have the life. How yes I've I've got dinner with Elena Kagan later go all right well? Congratulations on any questions for a cameo. ooh No. I don't but I hope that it is satisfying Lee humiliating. And I'm very much looking forward to it. There's a rural no mark McGrath McGrath. That's one hundred dollars and you'll have whoever's news I'm afraid framing get a message from him. McGrath raised rates. A Lot. Also probably got this week. We'll get them which they are later. Okay all right i Mike Mike are you staying or going I don. I don't think I've ever been on mailbag before. Kirsten all stick around because again illegally can't say no Liana thank you again for joining us. Thank you very much. It was a pleasure being here and let's remember. Save it for Ikea. Fry Up all right. Alright let's get into the mail Mike. You started watching pepe pig yet no I have not. I've heard like horrible things about its. I've tried to far away away from it. I will also say send. It always noticed listening to the mailbox and I haven't had the opportunity to speak about it. That clip has a very brief second of pepe speaking or but but it sounds like she's always trying to but in and you just cut promptly before you get into the mailbox that yeah exactly okay pepe all right we get to the mailbag. Let me just take a moment. Thank our other sponsor for this podcast. Those are friends over. I bet online nine dot. AG The presenting sponsor of the podcast one sports net challenge. where I am taking on the podcast? One hosts in a weekly contest to award. I five thousand dollars to the winners charity of choice. 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We Watch an episode of storage wars episode of parking wars was an episode of Flip. Wars wars is a thing walking like fighting over a parking spot or like management of parking garage as I think probably parking garages says anyway I'm sure we could. We could decide which wars the choose who could do like world war storage wars and flip wars. I don't Anyway and we watch those shows shows and we talk about a war. What is it good for? I feel like that's just trying to take. TLC shows or trashes spot as the next our trash MHM decided to go on the wheel. I feel I feel like there is something I back in the day used to spend hours on Saturday nights watching storage wars with my friends in this story are in different ways Particularly behold I do love heff particularly how staged staged in characterized shows are. I have not checked out the parking wars or the Phil. Moore's or whatever the third one was of any variety but I feel like if you're into checking out like really Schlitz see reality television at least from a storage perspective. This has lakes. I want to hear more about these Saturday nights with Mike Bloom and his friends watching storage storage wars. Yeah what's obsolete rubs pretty pretty damp. We're very dank. Thank you don't think you're using that right so I've looked sharking. Wars and a guest viewers get behind the scenes on the street perspective perspective as employees of the Philadelphia Parking Authority go on their daily rounds. Frequently dealing with ice meter maid workers issue citations Cited for this idea of dollars. Then dollar would be a series following the ticket writers in Bouterse of Detroit's municipal parking department as well so that's more bouterse the bouterse listeners about irs all my God an all right I pass for me to wait for the best of. Yeah yeah fine okay. Rob's passing fair enough. I don't think it's a fun idea. Hitch but I don't know if anybody's excited for the week cute name but the actual like who's who's really excited you know. This is seasonal and we already have the The wheel becoming a dribble movement diverse order. Yes it is yes it's very sad How about this? It's called Robin Akiva. CELEBRATE FESTIVUS for the rest of us. Okay and this is ideal sentence from Amara and she says listeners would would submit voicemails and would be airing of grievances there would be feats of strength and maybe some festivus miracles even how would we do feats of strength on a podcast. I'm not sure maybe aby we'd have to figure that out the wall. I think the main thing it would be the airing of grievances listeners would air their grievances they would call in and air. Their grievances is unknown. Listening we could air grievances Yeah I guess could listeners send us videos of their feats of strength like can somebody buddy send us a video of them like powerlifting. Four hundred pounds or sure. Sure and then we'll hit by a car but then bouncing right back on your listenership. ooh feels to Nettie listens while they're working out. Yeah you feel too negative. Mike says yeah especially around the positive show guys. Bring a sense of positivity I feel like that's sort of what the world in the podcast community Right now I don't necessarily rolling. No if an hour and a half of people. Complaining is going to be very well now Cherie Zag when other people are digging though you guys could do it as like a ten minute segment on. If there's a happy holiday man how about this. What about the week of festivus? Why don't we have an airing of grievances that may maybe not in lieu of the MAILBAG? But maybe in conjunction with the MAILBAG. Okay want to air their grievances. And festivus week airing their accents. Kirsten icy here in the dropbox folder. That there is a John. John submitted mailbag idea. That is right. I would love if you play the hat ask okay all right like I already like. I'm endorsing it to go on the wheel Weiner permission to play the John. John Mailbag Idea John we favour. Let's play it okay. Robin not dusty tassell bracket basically is simple. Oh Robert you cancel cancel bracket cancelled Okay we bracket the old castle stuff that we can't silt basically Leonard Guest to submit topics or trans or boots or anything that the cancelled and explain why and maybe the winner gets a spot in the mail bag like. Hopefully I get wants to wait so he wants to be cancelled so go to win. That should be cancelled. And whoever chooses you know winning slash losing thing that get Dan Lever suggested that we get a male spot and what. He's much like John. John who also hates deja Vu Akiva. Didn't we have we already done this. We can't we have a canceled bracket now you mean we suggested it. I don't think we went very far down the road of doing this or maybe putting it on the wheel we talked about that. I said I didn't like the idea of cancelling things because I don't want to one day be cancelled. I don't want a cancellor and Oh wait oh wait you just get guess what you were the chancellor now you're cancel objection cancer. I just think that like it's too messy because like people are being cancelled pulled for like real things but then we're canceling like Yoyos or like silly things that doesn't you know I don't know I I it's it's a little tricky and it's it's hard to you you know. Stick one toe in that pool and they were talking about this is. This is cancel than than winning. We're being glib about other things that are cancelled. You know what he thinks. I think we have to cancel stuff I mean I don't have a problem with stuff. Getting cancelled canceled. No I wanNA talk about then. That's you know. That's your personal decision that you are like me. Let me take the idea of cancelling and turn this into a completely different concept Oh Yeah you can you do a reboot bracket where maybe we take some canceled. Television shows that don't currently you have reboots in the process. And you guys figure out what's the one to reboot out of. All of them on that side isn't doesn't that combined with an idea idea that already exists. Yeah they re booty camper whatever the other thing too is like if you wanted to do. Do the cancel bracket. It could be done in like more of a tongue in cheek way. You could do it of like suggesting like condiment to be cancelled or like catch like figs. Are They pomegranate. And I don't know so it could be like the light cancellation bracket Kobe option Cancelation bracket yeah. I think it needs work. Ah We're not close enough right now. The other thing rob is I know in that John John Filed. There's a bonus clip like. I don't know what it is. There was no bonus one John John John John Bonus love it if we can listen to and I have not listened to it. Yeah okay all right well. Let's go away. Okay you might get canceled crappy movie not much go Kazam like why not the. We'll be still all the other movies check. You didn't do. Steel destroyed. Take the shack. He doesn't like damn being in there he wants to steal my IMDB expert. What is the plot plot of steel steel as a superhero movie in which shack plays the lead Superhero? I'm just so confused because I didn't have the bonus. One question was an onus. I think that was his eric. Have Agreements Bonus Bonus Plaza out of steel is a military. Scientists takes to the streets as a high tech crusader when his work on. A formidable weapon is hijack when a version of his weapon which neutralizes neutralizes enemies without killing them starts appearing in the outside world he dons a special suit in transformed himself into a cartoon style. Superhero budget aged sixteen million. How much did steal make at the box office AKIVA? I'm GonNa Guess Five Point One Matt one point seven million. Oh Man God that that's why do indoors so many things barely roper. Yeah and he's thinks thinks that the podcast one sportsman challenge. I guess that was. I guess that was the end of his movie career because he right he stars in blue chip is actually good and then Kazam and then stealing after steal. I don't think he's He really started anything and he you know he plays himself as a Amnio type person a lot. Okay all all right. Can we get shack on the mailbag cameo. It'll be a lot of money. I think we'll see all right so so I'm adding steel. I don't know why we have to lose Kazam. Yeah well we don't need to check movies because it needs to be Zam. Shaquille O'Neal is yeah. I that's that's selling enough. Yeah in which movie or show Zambrano we always forget. I thought the idea was originally elite. Shut up Tim wanted to pitch shack attack. And it was about all the Shaquille O'Neal movies. Yeah but we're not going to watch. Are you willing to watch Wasim. And and and steel and blue chips like. I don't think you'll also talk about grownups to where he played officer just to. Maybe be tried to tie this all together What if we don't watch any Shaquille O'Neal movies and then the We go back to sort of like the shack attack idea and we're taking a quiz quiz about the things that happened in the Shaquille O'Neal movies You have the shock expert. Show up Tim. He doesn't fall sports quarts. How much of a shack expert does he have to be to watch them? Shaquille O'Neal films and television things that he's appearing I'm looking through his. IMDB MVP right now. And I've seen a good majority of this. Oh Oh people are gonNA be so mad if we take Kazan out of the crabby movie diaper and had a trivia contest hosted a more robust idea. I think you're fine. Yeah just because you don't want to talk they will be mad. Limits are always mad at us. Yeah listeners who listeners. Who would be mad about KAZAAM coming out of the crappy movie diaper and then being part of a Mike Bloom hosted Shack Trivia movie contest? Please let us know. Let us and let us know if you would be one of those people. Yeah and grow up and grow grow all right rob. It's episode sixty so we usually like to look back. Ah At the last ten or twenty episodes and see if there's anything that could be turned into a sequel and we'll have two suggestions here. Okay okay one is Australian. Israelian shows are trash. It's the same thing as Canadian shows her trash but from the other country where we have a lot of lists Adam. I'm watching shows that I don't love the more shows are Trash really you were out on. Our shows are trash. I'm not saying we're out. I'm saying that I have a little blank. Shows are trash fatigue. Okay so you think it's too soon. Yes okay fine. Here's the other one. So you liked robin the murder right okay. What if we're GONNA keep yourself another murder? Yeah on so okay. So it's instead of New York where we solved the first murder. It's criminal minds. It's not three upset. Seven season four episode eight. It's Jason Alexander in Insane White Wig. I just sent it to you or a grey wig. Yes and he is a serial killer criminal minds without me. I will physically fight you. Why criminal minds used to be? You might favourite show. I would watch it in. I would just binge it and sit and watch criminal minds. I've seen the first probably five seasons many many times and I had to just give up the show entirely. When I went to university that I would do my readings four criminal mine? Are you sad that it's ending this year. I I don't think I've I'm glad as long as I can go and I can watch all of them and then now finally know how it ends okay. Well I'm surprised because I feel that the knock on criminal minds means is that it's a little bit like You know a broadcast television torture porn. I mean maybe your girl loves crime and also that episode is wild. Yeah right now. He looks like he's in the Dharma. Initiative like mathematician. I Yeah I wanNA watch Jason Alexander's killer. That's fine. I feel like there but I thought that most people were kind of criminal minds because it the whole show is like Watch a new lady be tortured. Everybody's yeah but RUB. They don't have to episode. We do You don't really see the crimes that much that one. That's a really strong episode. I think the first couple of seasons are really really good and then it kind of fell off. There's also a two part episode. Where James Vanderbeek It's the criminal which is riveting television. Okay people are wondering why Curses on seven times already and it's because she threatens ends the beat me up if we don't put her on an epic okay. She learned from you. Get Two people so rob. Should we solve a murder her again. I think that's fine. No you gotta be more to ask that. Are you going to be reading putting this on the you want to sleep on it for sleep on it and then if people will say that if there's no objections can go on the wheel okay One more quickey from walt read. It's called kids choice. Robin Akiva Watch. Whatever their kids pick Disney plus? This got a lot of lakes on twitter but are we not watching the same things like we are. We're watching the same thing. Maybe each each of our kids gets one pick or something. Okay that's fine. That's fine all right so then so we aren't GonNa ask what just one of my kids. You GotTa pick your favorite one. Yeah okay no pick pick dominik because our sons are the same age. Okay and I'll ask him. Why do I watch it with him and worship Russian with them you watch you watch the one he picked with your son and I watched the one? We'll each we both won with your son. I guess that's that that sounds good. Mike enjoying the Disney plus. I am immensely. We've been able to show some old school Disney stuff without you know meaning to get burnt a hole in our pockets with Amanda. Laurie and I just finished catching up on high school. Musical the musical this series. It is a show I've watched you. Don't you could blame your kids for which you're not at that stage yet unless your baby. So that's what my love for high school musical is something I wear with a badge of honor and so I I'd check out anything within the larger universe curse. I knew you commented on I posted about my my kids. were making me. Watch something with some horrifying mannequins but you said that you are a fan of this fun and fancy free. Yeah when I was probably like six ish my two movies that I kept watching were fancy free and the wind in the willows. Mike do you know this is fun and fancy free. I think it's one of those old school Disney films as an they feature like Angela Lansbury and some random man actor and they're they're sorta like things the animated people. No I think is like some really like horrifying like Disney stuff like the seventies and. I think that this is one of them. And then there's the puppet Charlie McCarthy and it's like they're telling the story to a girl and it's kind of like an anthology of of a couple of different things that it seemed like. They might the headline around and they tried to do record. A wrap around the Disney hotdog. Different Parts squished together. Turn just that not one have the no the one with echo by saying that there and then then basically Mickey and the beanstalk doc is like the second time I've seen it as a standalone Mickey and the beanstalk because I remember the scene where they were slicing the bread super thin and it looked like look like the Bra from the second. Yeah in Lucid. My my kids describe it as dad. We want to watch the show where Donald Duck tries to kill a cow as what. What are you talking about? Yeah harder a chow. I think your kids shouldn't know what murderers yet watch criminal the mind. I didn't watch their favorite episode of criminal minds do also does have some math knowledge allege sell. It could be used Akiva also wanted to get your take. I know that you have been off line. Most of the prior twenty. We're our did you get any of the return of E. T. O.. Jeffrey Epstein. I don't know it was like a Big New York Times article. They're sort of weird horizon commercial. Where they see Jeffrey? That's what was your question. Et came back. What does that mean? They're doing a reboot movie. Now they did like it's super. We're we're on Thanksgiving. Day almost became like a second super bowl where they premiered all these Christmas commercials but one of them which is from the Super Bowl is Mike but the commercial here in the US. I think it's a different company in a other. Otherwise around the world but like it's a reemergence of e t not where it doesn't even say like I'll always be here and he points to the phone instead of his heart. I didn't catch that. I was to overcome by grief when Et came back and broke me out. But I kind of what to keep the scary no. He's not scary air. He's great I don't know you made you cry my kids. Are you crying dad. Now you're let your kids watch too many murders there so like I don't know what is going on assessor Nino household but I think we need some Oversight I want. These children are watching Kirsten now once over set on the wheel and on your parenting just what the oversight would be a control freak. I Tony Basically anything that they both agree on that they will watch. That is not an adult playing video games on Youtube. I'm okay with if they both are on the same page that they wanNA watch it and they're not gonNA fight. I'm okay that's worried about all this murder. Yeah all right rob all right so we got two things that maybe we'll put next week. The kids choice Disney plus shows and Robin Akiva. saw another murder reminds yes. I can't be on the criminal minds opposite anyway because I know the Like the macram. My hands the right questions for us to discuss quiz. Is that the end. Just all right so have. We officially transitioned into shack attack. Do I need to start start writing. I don't think that's official. People want us to do his Amer Kazan out roar. We'll see the hour lines shack. Yeah it's GonNa be fine since like maybe just make watching the movie part of the thing like you still have to watch the movie before you could do the quiz or something like as long as it's combined into a more robust ad so it'd be like Shack wink instead of shark week or some- yeah I love that. Shot that okay for more. Mike Bloom on a podcast by the way this is the one year anniversary. I think there's only your second full episode appearance right. Yeah I was thinking about it when the last time I was on here and yeah I believe you know. We're recording this thanksgiving. Thanks giving weekend and we did. The exact same recording last year was when we did the rich a brain stay thirty day today. Happy Anniversary of your brands. The appearance. Yeah Mike What have you been doing for the last year. We've been up to we heard from you other than singing on the Mashburn hamper oil alert. Say Well I went from I. Guess La pure there of the GATT advice to a dad myself. That's probably the biggest transition but some other stuff here and there and watch high school musical musical series of the probably might so what was the highlight of. You're we're having a child or watching high school musical. The musical the series one is more annoying than the other one More singing and I will say Astra's not learn to sing yet so yes SAM. T. M. T. S. as that above him at least bombs addicted but I think he wins at the end Rob Rob yes. Yes I do either of our guest. By the way have any quick pitches as we probably have to spin the wheel now. Oh yeah well couple of a couple of them you guys have already. I've been dating on like I. Definitely give Robin mckeever Robin Akiva become a hallmark. Where you have someone come on and talk you through the hallmark movies but it looks like that's our goal which you Illini? We need to add a crazy nights to the great all because yeah that's probably the most annoying. Adam Sandler voice in his multi decade career is Rod Schneider in eight crazy nights. I think he is actually okay. There is there's a there's a great long long profile of Adam Sandler and New York Times this week and it lists like how many times he's put people in his movies and there's a guy who's been in every single thing Sandler's ever been in his personal assistant Then like Schneider's got like forty seven appearances and sandler movies and saint basically like once. He likes he wants Dan. Patrick's fifteen different Salem. If satellites symbol like so you're automatically in the movie Rob Schneider plays both is a real dual start turning eight crazy nights as the narrative and Mr Chang A. China. Uh Yeah Oh no ono anything to pitch now. I'm still very hung over power. You're hung over other rain and you haven't noticed. The last three hours been whispering no telling us the pipe. They don't have a voice because I got so drunk last night that I smoked a cigarette. What was the last night as May Work Holiday Party? Alright UH early for a holiday party I gotta say Denver Holiday is from last year. Did they forget to have it. Now it's the twenty nineteen Very professional way before everybody goes on vacation guests should fast before they come under nap not get hung up. That's what I think. Young the unprepared. Yeah that's going to be the constitution ideas but I had Because of your love or simultaneous hatred for Eddie at a podcast Making whoppi where someone come on a bunch of quizzes with you about the life and times of Whoopi Goldberg. Just in general The the other idea I had was for season three episode seven because I feel like the thing with s three e seven. Is that a need weird shows. I think it's Humphry to talk about friends friends in the golden girls but like I feel like the meat on the bone is more so talk about weird stuff on these shows. So I'd like to propose third rock from the sun is by far the weirdest. You're discounting an Emmy Award winning primetime. NBC show that. I've ever heard right now again back into fish from. Oh Yeah we had we had a vote And I think we like death threats basically but the the winner was the winner was boy meets. World knocked out sex in the city. What's who yeah boy? Meets World One with sixty four. I've not Geoghegan threaten people. Beat them up hurson style but yes oh boy meets world back in. We might use veto in two thousand nine hundred twenty twenty and it just upset or it could come up now. We're screwed But yeah that's in so the next time something comes out maybe third rock from the sun can have a challenge. It could challenge another show trial. Boy We're the show my mother the car. It just sounds funny. Just the thing I think the Weiner you guys go with the concept more there is terrific on dinosaurs was a great one because it's anthropomorphic dinosaur the best one yeah. I'm excited Ed for our house. What Oh yeah yeah? I don't really the best one. Come on let's get it was pretty wild whack whack a doodle Illinois. That's what you want to go for these. Yeah No that is true. Riverdale was great. merrick yielded small. Wonder still in the FISHBOWL. Yeah that'll be good one. Okay all right so did nothing officially got added today. We're getting close on some things but nothing got added added. Okay all right so then you. You'll remind us for next week. Anything new has to get added absolute. Okay all right so let's talk about what's coming up here on the we. Actually we just give you a couple of quick ones that people people pitch me on ideas during the week. I'm Robyn Akiva on the street. Yeah travel nightmares. That we could get we get the listeners. Send us in their worst travel horror stories. I feel like it's like a buzzfeed article more. Okay what are we at. He jumped the shark where we talk about win. Various things Jump the shark not necessarily TV shows. Let's get suggestions. We've wait robinhood person. Having to keep it trump. The shag jumped the shack. Well we can send in things that jumped the shark. If there's enough then we can. We can talk about a free trade chocolate very tall. Yeah he's not just but I don't WanNa do. TV shows that that's already covered by shark. But we're like when and did Different friend or save. Jump the shark. Jump the shark. Nine thousand nine hundred km jumped the shark when they came at that weird like Black Walker King. What about the king for the for the actual Burger King? Yeah that when they had the king commercials the scary one okay. Oh that's when they jump the shark king. And we watch the Fonzie jump jumping the shark. Happy days episode. I don't think we need to now. We probably don't need. Yeah I get pitched on Robin Akiva get lit but some sort of a tournament about where we have to read a book Whether spoon is ready to go look for the month club so we could read whatever it is and we have to read the book of whatever wins the tournament. All right. I like that. Actually how about this Stephen Fishbach will come on this podcast on and now are then the we me like a really good guest. Okay we have the right guest. I would wonder percent through that but I would only listen to an audio book. That's fine that's reading. Yeah all right season. Three three episode seven is on the wheel up to two spots now once once. Okay I'll by the way AKIVA. I saw a lot of momentum for for the Robin Akiva ratified the Constitution. No it's happening. It is happening. I have read the Constitution. Oh my God you've bread nap constitution. Yeah yes she gets the seat on the Muslim how did it. They added Kirsten Constitute Healing. Really what can I get an update on this. No we update next week. What's happening people are working on a constitution? They said they sent us. They sent us the one point. Oh okay all right yes okay. It's next week. We will finalise when we're going to do but people wanted to be a whole episode. I I'm oxen. Yeah I'm a hundred percent it can be. It would be insane. No it could be. It could be the mailbag when we know Asian insane idea. It'd be a full episode Kipa. Okay if I was sponsor and I was on the Constitution episode. I would demand my money. You Mike what do you make of should the Robin catered ratified the the Constitution. The connect- hold a episode or is that a mailbag feature Sam torn because on the one hand it highlights. What is really like the sterling sterling aspect of this podcast which the two of you arguing back and forth like? That's the pure thing. Maybe we can do is combine it with Jason Curse. Rivera's musical idea idea. I make it more like seventeen. Seventy six musical where intersperse the constitution while there's also songs while you guys are coming up with the Constitution Hamilton. Okay okay. Jay's occurs Rivera Update has not gonNA waste my veto. He's he has written the constitution. He has written the musical he just needs to put you know the music took to it with all the songs are written. He said all right. Here's where we're at season three episode seven one spot coin flip. Where in the world is Carmen Sandy? Where are the world's conversation with Eric? Stein Ryan Crappy Movie Diaper Radel this month. Okay drill. Is it getting eight spots. But I think it can't can't ineligible this week because the movie's not out this week arm. We WanNA see Rushmore. People's choice is the people's choice off the wheel or is that fine. I think it's fine third wheel tournament. Game night is off the wheel. King of MATT'S WE'LL or no wheel. Robin Akiva the smarter than a sixth grader. And the sleepover oral history. Have you heard that Kirsten I wish someone I know people who've heard it. I'm I'm shocked that you're such an end that you haven't heard you get everything ahead ahead of the podcast. Yeah Right. It's literally just this one. One thing that I get early. Just ready to beat up Lindsey Wilson. And she'll send you the sleepover pod. Never beat up Lindsey. Will we send the management Rene episodes early to the Rene critics. It's not a bad we should send out maybe seventy five dollars. Patriots should get a day earlier I mean and the Dan Fienberg episode sixty two. Yeah if there were any rap reviewers I think we would send the episodes out ahead of time but they have to now oil anything. Yeah no spoilers and also also a lot of times. It's like a six hour turnaround so I don't know how early they're getting it sometimes. It's a dare Mike. Let us know. Parade Dot Com is interested in rene-paul. Can you imagine what rocket might make them owners. We'll give you guys we'll do interviews with you over email. It's a decompressing. We'll do a post rap. Snap episode number sixty one. No ASTERISK Coming up Mike. Do you have a pick. What would you hope it comes up on a wheel? It's interesting See I you know with no guarantee of a winter. BBC's I kinda feel like Kevin love at least a taste of you and Stein together. Some sort of feeling wearing the world is Carmen. Sandiego wheeler. No wheels a fun idea. But I also I I mean this sleepover has been hanging over everybody's head. Since the summer. This might be the time as seasons. Change to finally hear the story of what happened that fateful night. Okay all right. Look we need the sleepover. Let's see what comes up. Okay here. We go episode number sixty one. Mike did you get that Astra stroke. Yes okay okay here is what's coming up AKIVA. It is the king of the. Aw Matt's veto you have a you have a best friend veto where you do half and I would do the other half. Yeah but if you do half don't then you lose it and then and then it's gone so you're not gonNA really four weeks left at a year right. Yeah but but I don't know who knows what happened. Tell me again. We got the premise. For King of the mats it is going to be given a listener actually had a little twist to it or we're going to be given given the name about twenty different mats and we have to rank them and choose the king of all the mound. We rank them. It's not a tournament. It's not like a break so it can be a tourney Puerto listeners. I said you wants to the podcast with Gordon homes. Many years ago. Yeah I think it was. Maybe must see TV. NBC shows or something like that. Yes you were you were given one at a time and you sort of rank think that higher or lower. So let's let's let's say was a king of the Mikes so somebody would have You know Mike Bloom. But then there'd be Mike Bloomberg's short Google document I and they will be slotting. The nats in as we guess okay and the King of the mats also gets a spot on on on a makeup soda the Ma- The Matt that wins wants to be on it. The Matt Leblanc or whoever okay. Sure sure. Is there a guest or now. I think it's me and you and I think anybody I think the I'm in the world is very weird rob. I'm a DM chat with a bunch of guys. They met me a bunch of Matt's planning that bracket so I if Matt at Geoghegan and Matla Gory and Matt Stewart WanNa come on with us for the MAILBAG. They can come on next week so we have three people on the on the mail bag. I know well. I'm sure it's just one of them will will be avail- it was a five male voices all talking at once most bit literally the majority of them named Matt. Yeah you think that's too. How many mats too many math is just a little containing cute nickname so they can identify themselves by their last names like Weiner okay all right? Kirsten and Mike Bloom. Thank you so much for coming on to talk with us here today and spending so much time. Thank goodness. We're not paying Kirsten by the hour here on because we uh-huh you get incredible amount of money your money so no. I'm kidding I'm kidding okay. Grow Up Okay Rob Rob with your name all over it these now. No all right and Mike Bloom appreciate you coming on and playing some games with us and then you don't get enough of that on a Saturday. I know this is great. You Know Leon and I actually inside baseball or hockey. We climbed the media a hockey player. Joey and we We gave some games to Amman Edwin on the BBC Nicer. Have the roles reverse given receipt. And Yeah and I always love coming onto her in any way shape or fronts. Hopefully it will not be another three hundred sixty five days before it happens again. Okay sounds like a threat. Also okay there you you go all right Kiva anything else now. Thirty two fans to fans patriot. Robert Kevin New podcast. That's this okay. All right all right great work all around. Thanks again to Liana everybody that worked on making all these Games today to Mr John. John Johnston for all of his contributions and Suzuki anybody else Akiva a hand Shapiro Shapiro as well. Yeah so thanks. Thanks for all the help. We'll be back with our matt bracket next time to see who is going to be ultimately the king of the Matt's next time on Robin Akiva need a podcast down. Then in band are checked until you this might seem assured you section believe me. 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Mason and Ireland (HR 3)

Mason & Ireland

1:06:25 hr | 1 year ago

Mason and Ireland (HR 3)

"Okay it's time for fasttrack questions for ramona. She's got him for me. We do this every day. Fasttrack is brought to you by dr grant stevens. Get your body eddie back on track fast. Get rid of those unwanted inches freeze the fat with dr grant and his team at marina plastic surgery check them out at freeze the fat dot com we always start with a ceremonial coin flip and so we'll make it about antonio brown ramona heads antonio brown comes through his senses finds a helmet and no more drama after this tales that goes off the rails again. Call it in the air tales tales yeah. I'm afraid of the same something ramona you wanna go first. You want me to go okay go for so right now. Steve mason is on vacation and croatia and he is visiting in some of the sites where game of thrones films croatia is the capital courageous job is to do which is landing the west western <hes>. I actually did the kings. I actually did the game of thrones tour a couple years ago. I went to a bunch of the sites where the filming took money asia because he'd fill dementia in northern ireland so my question to you is what show movie or anything else in the media. Would you go on a destination the nation vacation to visit sites where it was filmed. Wow that's a good question okay so like the bachelor in paradise hotel. Hell would you go on vacation. Just so you could see that it depends who which bachelorettes would be at the hotel at this at at the time i would certainly consider it i think think are you ever see the remake of the italian job mark wahlberg in those they start in venice a really cool part of venezuela. They steal a safe on the venice canals then they drive. I think through switzerland and they come back through l._a. Visit all the spots on that. I think it would it would probably be a good one. My favorite show of all time is the west wing so i've been i've had a tour of the white house <hes> but those are the two maybe the godfather part to tobacco old italy and be fun to see those spots. What would it be for you. Okay so i've been on a couple of days. I like those dan brown books. <hes> they have the code davinci code they have angels and demons right that was on rome <hes> the first one davinci code his <hes> paris right in rome <hes> and so i've been on a couple of those really have like the walking tours and they'll take you some of the sites that they referencing the books but i think my favorite favorite was the game of thrones. My second favorite was eat. Pray love when that's in italy right italy bali india so i've done you get the three cami me. They're eating italy. You pray in india and you love and bali. That's the that's the eat pray love and if i did the finding nemo tour all those different spots in australia. It should be part of this right. Ramona went on. I was on vacation c._n._n. Anchor chris cuomo got into an argument with a man who called him afraid. Oh yeah mama was so mad about this. He threatened to throw the man down a flight of stairs. Cuomo claims that calling an italian man frago is the equivalent of calling him the n word two questions here. I'm married to an italian and i didn't even know this. This was that offensive is it. I did neither like i. I've never heard that is the i know. That's an offensive term but i don't think it's on par with general general race might say chinese italian. I would call him freighter. Would he punch me. I mean just the godfather reference brother yeah you know but i've never thought it was like even in the santa league as the n. word. Isn't there another italian slur. That's just as that's even. I would think yeah but the but freight oh to me never registered he. Did you see off. Yes loses flew in a lot of people are defending him saying you know he was out of this family. You know bubba. He just absolutely absolutely is okay secondly all right. Is there another fictional movie character who equals a huge jin salt. If you just invoke okay in other words like if you like if i referred to a girl as you don't want to be around her she's regina george okay. I i mean we always mean girls yeah. I use the term voldemort a lot from harry potter c._n._n. Recite okay so so voldemort is the evil guy and harry potter that you're not supposed to even mention his name. He's that evil so you're literally if you like to be honest donald sterling and a lot of ways voldemort like don't even speak his name anymore. It's like just pretend he didn't exist. I was thinking maybe darth vader. That's abedin so yeah what what that's why we're so surprised. Is there another fictional movie character. They i mean it's fictional <hes> <hes> you know it. It just seems so weird yeah that he would lose it over a fictional character. Radio corleones does not exist. They made him up yeah yeah but this guy said you can't call me frail. It's like it's felt like misplaced. Anger felt like he was really angry about something else and he was just gonna unload on. This guy got him in the room now the thing that got him but he i actually thought cuomo is the one who really escalated the fight to tape. It was like he was mad. Okay sure if he's mad about the insult assault but he's the one who said you want to take this outside. You want to fight about it right like if you call someone kaiser so that just means that they have a revenge streak in them yeah i i'd like clean at us as if you can think of like a fictional movie character that you could seriously insult someone me hannibal lecter okay i uh-huh he's a cannibal. He actually comes across in that movie as a very anthony hopkins one on one tons of awards for that chas seem. It seem weird to me okay so this morning apple plus released a trailer for the morning show so let's talk unclear any it is a show about it's a fictional show about like it's a show about a fictional morning television show. I think it seems based on the today show right because hey carol basically place matt lauer okay and jennifer aniston's. The lead anchor in reese witherspoon tries to come in and take jennifer aniston shop crack. That's what you you can tell by. This one run the trailer so my question to you is what is your best story about. The dog eat dog nature of this business wherein okay well t._v. News is very ruthless and and the one thing that happens is on the air all these television stations try and sell you as pretty early in the morning which is why i think apple decided to go in the morning show. They try to sell you as this is your t._v. News family they were all family you welcome us into your homes and they show you doing a whole bunch of different stuff and nothing could be further from the truth because as soon as is your contract's up if they wanna get rid of you. It's like don't even speak of this person. They will cut you in a heartbeat. They're not your family emily t._v. News people are working job. It's not untrue in this business like thinking about early afternoon. Panel like one day like kelvin great guy one down. They just fire boom so we're not talking about kelvin anymore. Marcellus leaves and goes to fox like they mad at us. If we talk about marcellus mason i have enough tenure in the business where nobody can really tell tell us not to talk about something the one thing you can't talk about right now the s._p._n. Is politics and we'll get pulled off the air. Dan lewis got away with it but he's an eight hundred pound gorilla like they've issued in a pretty strong edict. They don't want to get in political but it's funny to me that as soon as they let somebody somebody go it's like they never existed so the best one is probably the late night talk show shows right with letterman and johnny carson and how letterman kinda got his way in there in him and jay leno how they battled it out for the tonight show. That's i think probably my favorite example <hes>. I've obviously see seen some as well in since we've been in the business right <hes>. Have you ever been in one of those where you know somebody is about to either be let go and you're the one who has to fill in for them no but mason they put it in a really tough spot. They told me saying that they were adding rid of me and told mason not to tell me and he didn't and we were we were at odds for long time. We finally got over it because they put them in the even more. They told dave singer to singer. <unk> decided not to tell me yeah so i got surprised by it but the then those guys all get fired and they put the show back together but the you know we've we've worked for probably fifteen different bosses and i understand their predicament. It is because a lot of it's contractual and they can't get rid of people but you just feel bad the people that that are going <hes> it. It just seems it's it's not it's they say it's it's not show friends. It's show business. That's a line from jerry maguire but that that's true. It's soon as your contracts if they don't like you. They'll just get rid of you and not care about you person. Whatever you have going on personally. They don't care so what's the i remember. What was that report at the daily news <hes> i was a local columnists. I'd find like worked there for a long time. I was finally getting a few breaks. You know they gave me a local columns. I'd write about the high schools and i work my way up. It was like seven years covering high schools and then finally the last couple of years. I was getting to the lakers the clippers you know but i was in addition to all the other high school stuff. I saw one time they they have a round of layoffs and one of the guys got who got who who got laid off and i didn't know about it before i knew about it like the day of okay. It happened like they told him he was out and within an hour they're calling me saying okay and you're the new person and this guy was a friend of mine right. Steve dill back like new you didn't you didn't know no not in advance but afterwards and i was like wait. What's what what like. That's not how i want to get that job right but that's the reality is the reality of the business and it was so i was like i wish you wouldn't have told me today. I'd like i would have waited a week but they like needed to call him yeah. It was evans jars so i think they're going to cover all this morning by the way this is going to be part of apple a-plus this is going to be a new basically competitor for net flicks and i based on that one minute trailer. I'm signing up for apple plus that that i'm it. It looks really really good. Chat all right ramon. We've been talking about antonio brown a lot lately the arrival in the hot air balloon the cryotherapy feedstuff stuff the the helmet all of it so here's my question. Is it possible even possible that all of us are getting played. He's been talked about more than any other player. We did to whole segments on him today. He doesn't really need training camp. He's perfect for hard. Knocks didn't do stuff like this terrel owens. Is it possible in this world of social media that all of this is calculated may accent on it gruden's in on it and tony ranting on it week one. He's going to be one hundred percent and playing and they did this to draw interest to the raiders. Is it pots like this is the wag the dog story for training camps. I hope so. I really hope that's what's going on. I think it is possible jay crasher huge raider fan. Is it possible. We're all getting played here. Not at all. It's typical raiders. That's a dream. I a harsh it's possible but i wouldn't have happened like as a coordinated thing it would have happened as something that started and then instead of just letting it go and resolving they just kind of are keeping this going because is there laughing at us right like maybe they're just. Maybe they're just doing it for the ratings for the show. I that would actually be my favorite outcome. I don't think that's what's happening. You drive it actually would show a tremendous amount of camaraderie and working and and and the fact that antonio brown just played all of us would would be very funny. If he comes out he goes guys. I play in this all six months ago. The feet thing was all makeup the cranberry everything never happened. I didn't really care about the helmet. We just did it for because i was the lead story on every talk show not possible percentage percentage chip one not a dumb. Larry is a national level. I don't think he would like fake. His feet being burned in the ground their <music> next level rank <hes> but i do think that they could be extending this helmet thing a little bit just for just to buy some time to heal from the foot thing thing if it if it turns out to be true i want some credit all right more yeah more fast drinking two minutes remote information e._s._p._n. L._a. i right in the middle of fast track ramona. It's you check so i love this. I i always say john. Which one would you like next. You wanna game of thrones question. The british royals already did a game of thrones related questions so give me the roy okay. So here's the royals <hes> this is a headline in the daily mail eko lecturers megan megan markle and prince harry for their private jet with baby archie for for a fourth gas guzzling flight in just eleven days as they leave the as they leave the south of france after visiting elton john's eighteen million dollar mansion on a three day john obviously this has been covered quite extensively in growing in the in the british press well elton john has now said that i am deeply distressed by today's distorted and malicious account in the press surrounding the duke and duchess of sussex six private. Stay at my home in these last week. Prince harry's mother diana of wales was one of my dearest friends. I feel a profound sense of obligation to the family to to protect them from unnecessary press intrusion after a hectic year continuing their hard work and dedication to charity david and i wanted the young family and have a private holiday holiday inside the safety and tranquillity of our home to maintain the high level of security we provided them with a private jet and to support prince harry's commitment to the environment. Don't we ensured their flight was carbon neutral by making the appropriate contribution to carbon footprint my question to you. John is what's wrong. The british press well first of all. I just cracks me up. What prince harry and meghan markle can't fly commercial. Are you people crazy. It would cause a friggin riot a little four month old baby. I mean if you can afford it. I have zero problem with people having a private plane plane. I have zero problem with people who have a hummer carbon footprint aspect of it. I actually think that's probably overkill. I'm not anti environment. I hope that all our cars ours are tesla's in ten years and that we do something but no i'm not gonna guilt trip anybody who takes the private plane. I take private planes. When i fly with the lakers to all these games it makes the league more efficient i- environmentalist wackos are going to find a reason to criticize anything thing and also be responsible for your own carbon footprint do what you can but if you get invited to elton john's house on a private jet no you you don't have to turn it down because you're you're on what they call a gas guzzling flight no jets are gonna fly whether you take them or not. Relax lacks so i i understand and i think we're in a different place with the carbon footprint of it all <hes> in the states as they are in europe. I think it's a much bigger deal in in europe about jet travel and carbon carbon footprint and equaling things out because like when i booked flights that go overseas. There's like an option sometimes to donate to offset your carbon footprint. That's part of the booking process and i think that's a much bigger deal overseas so you know harry and megan have been very three very public about supporting environmentalism and i think it's great that they do that but i do explain this like young family. That clearly needs to take a primary no yeah they need to fly private. Trust me if you've ever been around one of those royals when the public goes nuts. That's a baby would never get out of it. I'm just wondering hey you got the baby to flip to to fly so serenely four times at eleven days. Ed has been on a cross country yeah jaguar. We can even go on the freeway without losing his mind jack on his first one six months old. We flew him to boston and he did great. He hung in there all right <hes> the let me do this. One dennis dodd from c._b._s. Sports recently tried to name an all time college football team at best s. players at each position in the history of the sport his first team quarterback was nebraska's tommie frazier second team was tim tebow honorable mention it was roger staubach john elway cam newton and steve mcnair. I would argue. He left off the guy. That should have been first team ahead of frazier. Let alone not in the top six. It's somebody you saw play probably in person any idea who i'm talking about liner correct matt liner in three years as a starter order was thirty seven and two he completed sixty five percent of his passes almost never throw interceptions. He threw for ten thousand thousand yards and ninety nine touchdowns. He won a national championship. The heisman trophy the roseville v._p. The orangeville m._v._p. And almost most every other award a quarterback can win. Can i not make the argument that he had the best college. Career of quarterback has ever had yeah. I think he can make that all those do because he he was three years. He won twenty four games in a row. I mean how many tivo go to career. He wants to go but one one heisman like liner did he but but the problem with depot was he didn't throw like matt's right. Yeah i mean you know they had reggie bush yeah but i think that match definitely be on that list. Just just in terms of long most most college quarterbacks don't have like four great years right yeh squandered to plead sophomore junior senior but for him to have three years like that certainty seven and two the other one's charlie ward. How many have you only one one liner did finish third in the heisman voting always playing yeah but he didn't go thirty seven now. Yeah minor minor should be on that list. I it just doesn't make any sense fast track all right. You got one more okay <hes> okay. I had two questions. I'll skip the game of thrones. Okay skip that one. There was a georgia are martin quote in the guardian came by his finishing his books but right now. I like to go on twitter sometimes and see what things is your trending. The biggest things that is trending is hashtag kids things. I still enjoy okay so kids. Things i still enjoy are making macaroni and cheese and putting ketchup all over it bouncing on a trampoline. I do all of these things now with daniel guys. I have a little baby. We want our hashtag kid things. I still enjoy i when it comes to mind today for lunch at a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Yeah i cannot get enough of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches so i still do that all the time. <hes> on this like hot fudge sundaes. Yeah can't get enough of them. You put a hud sunday in front of me. I don't care on a diet. I don't care where i am. I'm going for the hot fudge sundae <hes> i still like riding a bicycle which which is a yeah. That's a bike allred the bike to the beach rather than the car. What else would like sampling's sure can't get enough of 'em swings. If i if a little kid like if you gave me daniel if you get a little bit older but i could probably put him in one of those swings where where you can put his feet through holes and he strapped in right and go back and forth slides slides fleet we go on a water says yes that <hes> trying to think what other kids things frisbee raised me so. I think i could come up with a pretty long. I'll read did you a few that are trending right now. Naptime kidnaps her fantastic cards with money in them excellent idea coloring books school supplies get excited about that. I gotta get for my son. We'll start jumping in rain puddles. Yes not bad slip inside slide so besides your excellent except for they put a stain on the lawn now that i have to actually worry about the lawn running after the ice cream truck kellyanne <hes> let's see watching saturday morning cartoons in my pajamas not bad but did he still have saturday morning cartoons. I think so but they run on the networks in the outings animated shows some summer good blowing bubbles. I'm not good that i can blow small one big want and juice boxes. I think in my garage right now i have because we have a block party. Every year. Lease always tries to accommodate everybody boxes. Let's see tom and jerry can't get enough. Tom and jerry's always good yeah. Those are all those are all pretty good looking all right so monday. People got to feel good right now ramon well. You've done very well on the birthday and you're the only fill in hosts. We haven't play. We're gonna put a twist of the birthday game okay i. I have a list of ten people who have birthdays in august. You and i are going to play password. Oh i'll give you the clues but we only get two clues. If if i can't get you to say the name the full name of the person okay in to clue. It's a miss. Usually you can't anyway i. I think we're going to get nine out of ten fun chumming. Do you think we're going to get ramona nine eight or ten corrales which are about eight all right right remodel. Let's see all right number one patriots. You can guess tom brady. Good it one for one time. I thought you were going to keep going. No no no no. It's not it's not time. We're okay president obama to for to you must know that. He says he has an august birthday. Okay i did actually k. car dashing ashington and remember i can't i know who's a financial. Now you in another if you want it warmer former clip youngest kylie. That's the wanted to where you're gonna miss. Okay gonna sing this client. Okay holiday. Oh i got it <hes> madonna for four that's okay. I don't know if it's legal say that's all just do this. <laughter> lakers magic johnson the very last week last week all right that's easy. This only works if you've seen it okay so let's see caddishness sadness. Oh yeah the hunger games so let's see <hes> actress jennifer lawrence boom okay yep a thriller michael jackson all right four more next to kinda hard all right here we we can do it prime dion sanders. Should you get at this all right. It's the way you said it too garner jennifer garner ex. Oh ben ben affleck tell you nothing ben affleck hillary's bill clinton. I was gonna say husband all right last one right stilt wilt chamberlain broadmoor for ted allegory excellent that was good all right that wraps up faster and easier than birthday because at the time pressure coming next did you hear did you watch. Did you see what the rams did. During the game in hawaii in the second second half <hes> it was fantastic. We'll explain it coming up next ramona information c._s._p._a._n. L._a. highly underrated song mason and ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. Ramona shelburne information ramona's podcast series drops tomorrow the sterling affairs. We talked a lot about that last hour but make sure you subscribe to it. What is the how do you subscribe ramona thirty for thirty podcast. Dot com slash early so everywheres podcasts are vallon apple podcast spotify on saturday saying that on saturday night the rams and cowboys play a game in hawaii preseason game now the rams preseason games are are unusual in the sense that knowing that plainy starters some some of the starters didn't even travel air. Donald did go over there. I didn't see jared goff curly went but what was fascinating was the game was on channel. Two and this year andr cecilia no and maurice jones drew and meena meena who helps out sometimes are doing the game so they somehow convinced sean mcveigh the head coach of the rams true takeoff his coaching headset amazing and put on a broadcast the headset while the game was going on and the results were really interesting. Here is mcveigh with the crew initially top. I tend to seven. Here's the third i said we had a four man crew. We actually have a five man crew. Joining field is ram's head coach. Sean mcveigh's goes. His defense is on the high coach how we doing how are you doing. I'm doing great depends on how we do on this first down man thirty four hundred eighth structure right here. Okay see how we do. We've been good on these early downs. After that first i drive so you want to call the plane or i'd see what the offense is going. Short motions slot looks like it might be a little bluff stutter- action quota therre man. We recognize gar downhill for too long about him from texas tech to pick tie stop. He's made plays today. Trick has made plays today today as well local. Once whoa has made plays you gotta like all three good man great games at a fixed up cutlass last series so this is big at any time you can get these offenses in these get back on track down. That's always good for us. Defensively we can kind of get into attack mode a little bit all right my first reaction to that if sean mcveigh hey everyone wants to get out of coaching. He'll get a job in tv tomorrow. How good is this is. This is wall. The game is going on. I i was fascinated and you know what you know. What's great about. It is our thing we know basketball pretty. Well you and me right you. You're the play by play voice of the lakers but we don't know basketball like a coach basketball. We don't know what is happening at every second of every play like him saying that the real coach coach jargon in their winning and calling the plays. Here's more from mcveigh during their keep in mind. He's on the sidelines coaching the game yeah topic down the field here. He is wearing a headset and coaching talk. Let's see rematch. College forests great job by various williams man. He just keeps showing up. That's a great player right. They're mansard down. Thirteen is not a play not down as an offensive coach. I'll let you call those plays andrew none. What are you joe joe bearing weight phillips clinical defensively. I think we'll probably play his own. Keep things in front of us was single high falls on the headset. I could tell you exactly but i'm talking to you guys. That's awesome bay. This seems like there's so much young talent on this rosser guys or ballot positions the some people some people say competition breeds greatest. You see guys step in their airplay up every week. That's exactly what you wanna see. I went to split safety match. I'm going to get a hold from elbow georgia. The holy also back up. That's good great job anytime you can do that. We're in good shape. I just so impressed with how this guy can multitask and he's answering questions and he's watching what's happening on the field. Here's here's some more see if we can get off the grass here third down in twenty three. Keep things in front of us and then get the ball back to the offense. The structure forest the top down troy reader getting eleven half off the job. That's good though back inside job right there so you're pretty good at this street. I wanna stick around do this. When the offense is on the field outdoor with the offense do really house the ground who critique wolters play connect connect for those that don't know shane walgreens calling all four games this summer heat. He actually had a first thing he did his birthdays today he's turning forty today and in and he got up on stage last night at the luau in a grass skirt. It was impressive yet. Some good rhythm and i was impressed. He was shaking and he was a good sport with it as well as austin austin forward so mcveigh they were only supposed to have them for defense because he normally the tweet phillips sharma's fun so he just said all right. I'll stick with it and that led to this coverage here with rams head coach sean mcveigh down on the sideline. The only gonna join us on the headset when the defense is on the field. We're going to get one play here with the offense. What do we got here. It's been a good <hes> good day. It'd be able to change the launch appoint a little bit. I think we're going to start out with the little bootleg baked too wide zone and and keeping a slot formation right here sorting fake to the left right ear. We're gonna keep back to the short field field if we can get something to pop or some of these crossing routes through their emotion over here to create a one back slot look fake hard to the left right here. Keep back to the short field all right. We got bread pressure outstanding job by brandon allen right. They're finding a way to get out of that. John get a fishy yards. We'll right right on track where we wanna be. That was the top plate execute when you get that pressure. The great job by brand gets yards john. We cannot thank you enough for doing this doing it for the week one in carolina we know the answer to that so sean mcveigh from the sidelines in honolulu all yeah i thought that was it was really cool thing like that's one of the things that you don't realize when you're watching game especially a football unit preseason game like how many things are are happening on one play all the hell facet happens in him just like calling out that a great job guys getting separation on that and the like. I can't even but he's i can't even approximated out because there were twelve things that he just said that. He's noticing in that one little play right and i still think these preseason games are. They're too many of them. They i think they should cut him to to <hes> <hes> or even eliminating college football doesn't have them and the rams are playing any any of their starters so i think preceding years although last night that game in seattle i thought was you know was in minnesota minnesota vikings and minnesota but i think they both teams played their starters. It was actually kind of interesting but i think if more teams are going to copy with the rams are doing rams. Don't even play their starters in the preseason everybody does that. You know you don't want to charge people for those games. I mean if you go to the laker games in preseason unleashes as you see lebron. At least you see anthony davis. At least you see those guys. The rams aren't even dressing jared goff and aaron donald todd gurley. It's a completely different animal issue just scrimmage in that and and they do that during the week you know so so these inch interesting by the way adam schefter reported earlier today that during james the great safety for the chargers is going to be out for four months and that's going to be a huge story in in charger land just because he was so good last year and and i'm thinking that james the he had a screw in his foot put in when he was a freshman at florida state dr stinky bent the screw last week at practice they could get him back right before christmas. Allah question is can they make the playoffs like what they did last year without derwin james and this would be <hes> you know joey bosa would would argue v their most important defensive player but james would be one a <hes> you know he he he was that good last year so this is a huge deal for the chargers. I saw one person who i follow that covers the chargers. You're saying other than philip rivers. This was the guy that they could least afford to lose right so i mean that's gonna be a big story for them. I think that that that division division is chargers. Chiefs win it. Broncos will be a little better with vic fangio head coaching and then there's a raiders how many win in steve project for the raiders this year six. Maybe i'm going corrales. What do you think have you seen that schedule. Get help and five wait a minute. Did you see see the way we absolutely dominated the mighty arizona cardinals intaking twenty-six nothing lead eight wins of course. I'll claim they have sixteen wins by the the end of the season we along. We're coming up top of the hour cross. Talk remote is information. I'm john ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. saying john ireland playlists. I love it. You'll get to here for a couple of weeks. Mason's gallivanting across europe ramona's information. We began the show talking about this reported accorded rumor and you reported on it over the weekend that the lakers who got that horrible news that de demarcus cousins had torn his feel so bad for him that i thought that was a great signing by the lakers and that he really at a chance in a contract year to make a huge difference he you know he would have been at best the third best player on the lakers which meant you couldn't defend your your elite big. Man has to guard anthony davis anthony davis that good so we're really would've left left an opening for bogey and he and davis played well together when they played on the same pelicans team in new orleans but now with the tornado hail he'll probably miss most of if not all the season and the names that were coming up as rumored replacements for him were joachim noah kenneth for read and the one that drew the most attention that had my phone blowing up your phone on blowing up. I'm sure the phone ringing at the laker offices because everyone seems to have an opinion on it was dwight howard and you did some reporting on it over the weekend again. What do you think the chances are that dwight howard ends up coming back to a very small chance <hes> i think there early in the process of deciding adding what they're gonna do about it they may not even fill that spot right away because you have to kinda see how the rest of the league shakes out the rest of the roster but <hes> i think it was the grizzlies have given permission to dwight and his camp to talk to other teams so it was more dwight's people calling the lakers and lakers saying thanks sure we'll take the call then which is the way we're really after tweet howard which is what the lakers should do. Rob pelinka has said on this show before that he'll take any recall. He'll take any shit if one hundred ninety nine of them are bad. It's worth it to get the one goodwin yeah and that's what the agency to it's like. That's your job like when to to find your client and other job so i think that dwight's going to have some options. The lakers will have a lot of options like this is. It's just because of their history that it's a fun little story right and and i actually think that of those three names the one that's the most intriguing to me is kenneth for regan. Who does everything well. He's a really these nicknamed from the manual because he is flying around getting rebounds and blocking shot he. He's not a score but i'm not sure lakers need a score. I don't think so i think they just i need someone defensively and the reason why like anthony davis would be your five but he doesn't wanna guard fives all year like that takes a lot of him physically the time he gets hurt art. He wants to be a power forward. He wants to defend other power forwards and so you need a big guy who can play that five spot so that eighty doesn't have to i'm trying to think of who would a deep defend on the clippers on opening night when they probably mantras harrell yeah i would say or zoo botch if zeus starts yeah <hes> anthony anthony davis had a fifty six point game against the clippers last year and remember when the season starts the clippers want paul george. They'll have kawhi leonard. They'll have lou williams. <music> have patrick beverley but they won't have paul george who had shoulder surgery on both shoulders this summer. When do you expect george might be back. I've heard anywhere anywhere from a couple of weeks of missing the season to like six weeks. I mean it's all kind of depends on how well this last phase. His rehab goes and also how aggressive if they're gonna be in trying to get him back like i would assume they'll err on the side of caution with him. Somebody asked me who i thought would have the number one seed in the west and while i think either either the lakers or the clippers will probably be the team that comes out of the west. I'm not sure so sure denver or utah doesn't finish up with the number one seat because those are built be really really good regular season teams. Who do you think's going to have the number one seed in the west. When the playoffs so denver was right there last year and i think they got better <hes> so i would say i think that's your sort of by default per team think the lakers and clippers are really good and they probably have the best team altogether but it sometimes it takes a while for those new teams to gel whereas denver sort of they're already good. They're utah. I like alcohol. I was just gonna say the rockets and the warriors ears both win fifty games. Yes however i have to do the math right if we start giving sixteen winning fifty game. Is that possible job. When you're eighteen team scam okay <hes> one year when when the lakers and oklahoma city was the eight th they were the aid at fifty and thirty two because i'm one of those who still thinks the warriors are like really good and i wouldn't be shocked if they go back to the finals. I think a lot depends on dangelo. D. ngelo russell fits into their system and interestingly lake clay comes back yeah michael who by the way we'll see you tomorrow michael's filling in for mason tomorrow michael says he while he would love clay to come back sooner he's envisioning after the all star break for it makes sense so could be sooner but he michael's thinking late february early march <hes> but but if they get everybody back if they have steph clay draymond <hes> remember that was that the team that basically wants seventy three games for losing to lebron o'brien in finance it harrison barnes on that team and they'd dollar who are both gone now but the core that team was draymond clay and steph with steve kerr as the coach so yeah houston's the biggest anomaly. I don't know what they are. I don't know what harden and westbrook look like together. I know they played together in oklahoma city but now they both have m._v._p.'s belt a one of them has to give up the ball and i think it has to be russ as as much as i love westwood hardens been too good the last two years to ask him to sacrifice think it has to be russ question is willing to do it and if it doesn't go well right out of the gates. Hey it's how did they each react darryl would trade his mother daryl maury. Would i sure he'll deal with it. If that happens all right coming up next a little crosstalk i think i think it's andy cheminant ski kirk morrison mike trudell. I definitely saw kirk morrison walking through. He's definitely here so we'll we'll get their thoughts kurt. The kirk the former raider. I wonder if he ever refused to play with a given helmet we can. We can find out for man. That's coming up next e._s._p._n. L._a. Hey hey hey it's time for purgatory regulatory. Yeah new as purgatory don't get stuck in mortgage loan purgatory call h._m._s. capital. They compete to win you. The best home loan rates call eight three the three to five five fifty six ninety eight or visit h._m._s. Capital dot com andy cabinet skis here kirk morrison here. Let me get you guys to weigh in on uh-huh ramon and i were just talking sandy. I know you wrote about this for the athletic. Brian did did about dwight howard okay good idea or bad idea in your opinion if they bring him back as a minimum backup andy i would explore other options i. I don't think it's the end of the world if they do it. He would not be my first choice kirk. What do you think i don't want no part of the white howard. I wouldn't bring him onto what we're building to me. He is the link to the old. He's not a part of what we're doing now and to me. It's more of a distraction than i think <hes> valuable minutes that he can provide. I think this is more other. There's other options out there. If you ask me well i like kenneth read a lot but but i disagree with you guys went to white in this regard. You're not bringing him in here to be one of your main guys you'd be bringing them into play fifteen minutes as a backup and if you and i think there's i don't know about i think you're going to start but i- marcus cousins was going to be like a twenty five minute night guy there's that you replacing and there's and and there's here's some other names. Let me toss him out. Okay ause pachulia marsin gourds hut solemn heree. Marsin gortana has a pet pig. I just for that reason alone. I think honestly i maybe i'm wrong but to me as an outsider i hear dwight howard's name and it's just a name. It's not a guy who's gonna give me the quality minutes that i it it. Just what you hear oh dwight howard and you think of the old seawall here's here dwight two years ago. He played seventy four games and was a double double guy which are hard to find ironically. Demarcus demarcus cousins the honest honest real quick for what team i don't know what the two years two years ago era despite for six teams in seven years on the wizards last year but he had a nine games the that's the concern learn about the other guy for charlotte though by the way yeah well talk kim noah and dwight the issue with either would be can they stay stay healthy enough to help you. I i mean and that's actually something you have to take a new county and beyond all the baggage that white brings with him particularly among the laker fan base you still have to try to account for depth and it's a little bit dicey when you're trying to account for death by bringing in a guy that's coming off a nine game season. I mean i i recognize that he's not far far removed from basically eighty two games or close but he is coming off an injury that that was significant that he basically missed the season. It also says something that the wizards moved him as quickly as they could and we know this because tommy sheppard their new g._m. Said on the record that was the fastest trade we've ever made ooh and this is coming off. You know several seasons where atlanta moved him as fast as they could. Charlotte moved them as fast as it could. The wizards move them as fast as it make a difference their smoke to wait nude but does it make a difference to you because it does to me that he admits he has been completely humbled. He's admitted this before when every story with jenkins and it was all about how <hes> yeah. I just think when a guy has been like i think carmelo anthony botched this never basically acquiescing to what he's what his career was now which was a role player. He's he he. He won't admit it. He thinks he should be starting. He thinks he should be run the offense room and carmelo's out of the league i don't think do i thinks that but i mean but here's the thing though dwight clearly and you listen to k._f._i. In los angeles he grates on people like it's obvious is that even if he's not trying to even if it's not because he considers himself still a focal point player. That should be the number one option on team. It's obvious that he grates on teammates and he grates on a locker room because again he keeps getting shipped out after productive seasons. There's no other reason to do that other than locker. Uh-huh can't stand him. He's just all named all name. He doesn't even fit in the kind of thing that we were talking about. I don't know if you brought this up. John guys in my group chat. We were just talking about the joke him noah aspect because at one point he's saying those guys are hollywood is hell when he was talking about lebron de way all those guys at miami when he was a part of chicago bulls all right and now bringing him on and say you know nobody wants to go hang out in cleveland. I don't wanna hang on years. He's coming. He's coming to hollywood possibly like you. It was it was one of those things that was brought up and it was really had me kind of like man so so way back in with this land stevenson blue lebron's ear and they were teammates last year the land stevenson kind of respected that it was like to me that was part of the reason why he was on the team like the same way member matt barnes and kobe with the with the the ball in orlando like matt throws the ball right in his face and like kobe doesn't flinch and like kobe kind of tough the three of us john ramona we cover hover. We covered kobe. The dirty little secret about him is he liked it yeah when you go back at him like he wanted gears and i'm talking reporters to like. If you kobe tried to blow off a question of mine i'd follow it up and be like no answer the question and i think he respected that. Yeah you take that mamba. When i think a tough questions i think andy cam and that's michael thompson the bahamian grill ah so kirk. I wanted to ask you the game last night. Yes seattle minnesota late in the game. Paxton lynch is in a quarterback back in and he gets hit head to head helmet hit dejected defender. I thought at that point paxton lynch had become a runner and that he actually had the ball law and lowered his head. Do you agree with the ejection. I agree with the ejection because that's part of what the n._f._l. Wants to get rid of its it also goes back to college and you know i do college college football for e._s._p._n. Show whenever we go through every single year. I get this list of rules and we went over to again with you. Know the the rules committee but if i'm tackling you and your bigger than me the and you've got your head down i am i. How do i avoid your head. It's always see what you hit and the defender couldn't see what hit he lowered his helmet. When you see those signs of and locker room see them over the urinal by the vice though by the way applies at the urinal right exactly you wanna see what your excellent point always the argue hydrated picture right all different colors of urine. I feel like that's like one of those days like when you're potty training your kid that's like a good saying yes see what you and i've got to think about one day patriot annual. That's a good way. Trust me we have we we have gone in my home. It was the old cheerio. Go hit the cheerio in vermont it. Here's my advice about training. He'll get it eventually. Freak out over. It like potty trained kids eight yeah. She's eight and just checking. She was all worried he was never going to figure it out and then one day just happened stone over don't over stress about about body yesterday where my my sister-in-law and her her daughter olivia here and there visiting so she's like five and we're all swimming in the pool right and so i take daniel in the pool and i kinda just hold them up and we didn't really get his head under the water yet he just kicks a little bit and splashes around and he always wants to try to drink the water. You know because he's the baby maybe just want something like oh. Let me tell them not to do that and so libya and blake my sister-in-law this song and they go don't drink the water that you're driving around. You're not going to be able to <hes> get that out of their head. Now that's great. I'm totally when he learned to speak going to sing that song my daughter who's three karaoke night tomorrow told take john water that your buds and when we were going through the process of potty training my daughter i remember his around four or so like she was getting the hanging out and then apparently this happens a lot with kids. They regress stop. They stopped liking it and they stop cooperating and her preschool that had basically all these different like eastern european china and russia and teachers instruction instructors one day her teach which is like bring underwear sitting around founder and i mean we're just like okay and we just brought in some underwear and she was ready and they basically drilled it in your head like the next day. She was potty the train like they didn't screw around kirk. The the raiders have been the talk of the day because mike mayock yesterday just showed up and called reporters over and said this <hes>. You'll know that a. b. Not ear today so here's the bottomline he's upset about the helmet issue. We have supported that we appreciate that at this point. We've pretty much exhausted all avenues of relief so from our perspective. It's time for him to be all in. We're all out kirk. What is antonio brown doing. He's being antonio brown and the thing about it is he's one one of the most powerful people and organization. No one wants to say it. The raiders need antonio brown. More than antonio brown needs the raiders okay but i'm be remote. Run it organisation. They need antonio brown and he knows it right. He knows it so. Is that what this is. Is this just a flex. I think this is a flex because the raiders saying we want to get him out there. They're trying to back him on this hill helmet issue and i think i heard john talking about a little bit earlier. John is different with tom. Brady like tom. Brady just was like forget it because tom brady's tried to fight the n._f._l. On a different way he's already won talk seriously. Tom brady is not gonna win a case it. Would you go suspended for four games again okay. Let's do a train. You let me deflate the footballs. Give the helmet so like i it's honestly like it is a flex by antonio brown and i've said this before many times that when you look at the raiders right now they actually this is a blessing in disguise what's going on with antonio antonio brown because they have some dean underlying issues within the team that i think that they're just not a good team yet but people all what's going on antonio brown. That's the question that's what mike mayock first time general manager yeah. He's not in a booth anymore right. He's not in the studio so he's tired of hearing the questions. I know his wife probably ask what's what's going on with the antonio guy his brother what's going like that's the only question the first time gerrymander comes in because when i hear what you say hey look. I'm not gonna take any questions. I'm just going to tell you straight up. Ah tonio brown he's not here. He's better be all in. That's frustration on the part that everyone asking him that same question and he's tired of answering it. How does it end. I mean i tell you what we were. Abroad will be ready week. One dimmer burma bronco monday night. He'll be ready to go. This will all be forgotten. He goes out and gets one twenty five to one fifty two touchdowns and we're gonna forget about august nineteenth talking about whereas antonio brown. I honestly say you. You're his teammate. Though are you getting annoyed to get annoyed because you don't want an answer that question you know what i mean. You just don't want to answer and that that's the point where guys like look man but at the end of the day i i had guys like randy moss charles woodson. I had some strong character guys at my locker room and they did things and i'm like man. I was a young player some light that do just to get away with a lot but then all of a sudden sunday cain and i'm like i see why because he can do things that not a lot of other players tony. Here's a here's my word you brought up thousand. You brought up randy moss right randy. Moss was spectacular in minnesota. Absolutely came to the raiders didn't hit went to the patriots was spectacular in as a raider fan. I'm worried in tonio. Brown round was spectacular in pittsburgh. What makes me think that this isn't randy. Macho well first of all you were there. Why randy moss work with the raiders well for the for the first season it worked. It was great first season second season. I mean they got an offensive coordinator who was running a bed and breakfast for the previous five years. We went to one to two thousand fourteen for a reason john and look we already knew from training camp. The wheels already fallen off. It was like oh here we go but i think it really comes to. The foundation at jon gruden has put in derek carr has put in. They've got some pieces around. I just think that when i watch them antonio brown is going to make derek carr. Be a better quarterback antonio brown. He can beat double triple. Whatever coverage you put out there and he searches field. I mean just him on the field alone. As a defensive coordinator i gotta nowheres eighty four at at all times. Gotta find out where that dude is because when he scores is not just a touchdown right we got a warrior fan when steph shoots and hits a three three that deflates teams right people can get a dunk and it's like oh. It's a dunk with steph shoots the three boom. It's like oh here. Come the floodgate. When antonio brown scores it turned into a spectacle spectacle because you know he's gonna dance. He can do all that and now you've got guys over there pointing at each other on the sideline if you're a decent so why not just do that like while the drama yeah but that's my question. Is this a flex over the helmet or is it a flex just to flex. I think it's a flex over the helmet to first of all he's. He's got you know. Countless amounts of money thirty million guaranteed now but i think is to for him to kinda prove a point that okay. You can't wear this helmet because you gotta find one and that's within ten years. You know being manufacturer. Oh well okay. I'll do that so he's found two helmets that have been made within the last year and now the n._f._l. Is saying well. We still got tested tested. I mean to me. I think it's a bigger issue just because i really believed that the n._f._l. Is trying to get away from the whole concussion lawsuit that hey we told players to do for this. We don't have to pay things out anymore. I actually wore the same helmet that he wore. It is actually the most comfortable helmet by the way air shut advantage helmet by far the one he wants to wants to wear i wore it was a popular helmet in n._f._l. Circles but when i got when i signed with the buffalo bills they actually as a team decided not to go out and buy that particular model in helmet anymore so i was forced to change until different like i will go out and go by my helmet. We're talking. I'm like i'm not buying a helmet. You just give me what you you know what i mean. Somebody could difference is. It didn't think about it. I feel like it's like i used different helmets. I've have used different gloves. Cleats like that kind of stuff does affect you. Can you adjust eulogised ramona. This is very easy for you on in this way. There's a glove that you've always had yet and when you put that glove on you just know it. You just feel like everything you like. Oh yeah i catch everything now. Someone we'll just say ultimate brawl glove. You put it on us like i. I can't do anything. It's the same thing with his helmet. He's like he's worn a particular helmet for his first nine years in the n._f._l. He he doesn't want to switch and it does make a difference and remember just because he gets a new helmet doesn't mean he's you know doesn't is not concussion susceptible. You're still can get concussions in the n._f._l. N._f._l. We saw paxton lynch last night. You talk about the hidden john that hit the helmets not saving them from a concussion. Yeah that that that i highdown purgatory. That's ran one in the books back with brown to next e._s._p._n. L._a. all right mason and ireland purgatory role in on kirk over the weekend really big story. Jay z. signs a partnership with the n._f._l. And there were people that did not like it. Here's eric reed of the panthers. Jesse claim to be a support column wars jersey. Tell people not to perform the treatment that n._f._l. And now he's gonna be and so kind of despicable air greet. It says the jay z. Wants a supporter of calling copper. Knicks enters a agreement with the n._f._l. To run basically entertainment n._f._l. Entertainment out of rock nation. What did you think of all of it. I think it's <hes> it's about time <hes> obviously that the n._f._l. Is finally showing their awareness on social justice issues. You know social injustice. This is what is really to me. All about people going to focus on what what about cabinet. He still hasn't done that but i think the time is now past. It's been three years colin. Kaepernick is just not going to play in the n._f._l. Anymore so that that ship has already been has sailed but now it's about okay. How do we get past it <music>. How do we not allow that to happen again and the olive branch that you lend to is jay z. Jay z is a guy who is about business business he he's not about. You know messing around. I don't know what he's done with. I think meek mill and he's done a lot within the community as well too. I think bring more awareness and so for the n._f._l. To bring him along. I think to me the n._f._l. Wanted this they they they sought after jay z like okay. We gotta do this and i think just listening to me just from what i've read their certain influential owners in the n._f._l. To me the two most influential owners are two guys. I think they're really running the n._f._l. If you ask me is robert kraft jerry jones those two guys run. Jerry handles the business. I think robert handles the e._r. p._r. So yeah and i think think this was full on robert. Kraft say we need this guy to for just for our public image of the n._f._l. All right to your point jay z. was asked. How can you make a deal deal with the n._f._l. When you've been so pro capture nick this whole time and capture knicks still doesn't have a job. Here's what jay z. said okay. I think we passed kneeling. I think it's time to go into actionable items. I think everyone knows what the issue is. It was done with that we we. Everyone knows what we issue. Is you know why we're nearly okay the issue the issue yes. We all know issue now. Okay necks where we move in on next and i'm not again so to be clear but room. I'm not minimizing that part of it because that has to happen. That's a necessary part of the process but now we all know what's going on. What are we going to do. How are we gonna stop because the kneeling was not about a job. It was about injustice. Let me bring attention to justice assist. Everyone's saying wow you going forward and there's an average up. This wasn't about him having a job andy. What do you think i mean. I think there's a big time onus now on jay z. to show sincerity when it comes to the social justice initiatives and show exactly why he's partnering with the n._f._l. Along these lines because he's got the the reach reach to work with anybody along these lines if he wanted to so the idea that he's not just selling out jay z or the i mean not selling out colin kaepernick that he is serious about this and is not purely about just creating inroads as reported to own a team. There is a big time onus on jay z having said that though my concern right now the way a lot of this is getting talked about is that con- capital ends up becoming a paralyzing agent in terms of the n._f._l. If you think they can do anything along these lines or if you think somebody like jay z can hold their feet to the fire and force them to do something that colin kaepernick ends up an agent of paralysis where you can't do anything because he's not in the league and like kirk said he's never going to be in the league and the reasons that he's not going to be in the league are staying on the n._f._l. And it's going to be part of their legacy and they have to live with it but at the same time if if for nothing else if jay z. is now in a position where he can forced the league's forced the league's hand into doing some initiatives that they otherwise may not have you have to find a way of moving forward and you don't don't want cabinet to get in the way of that so my big issue with the whole jay z. coming into give them some street cred okay they wouldn't is <hes> is that a lot of the capital has just one issue and jay z's right in saying that it's not just about <hes>. It's it's like now now. Let's get a seat in the room with let's talk. Let's now i can at least influence them but so much of the way the n._f._l. Is setup feels disenfranchising two black doc players okay. It's just feels that it's not just capper nick. It's the way that players get cut after injuries. It's the lack of guaranteed contracts. It's the it's like more more than any other. League players are treated as as you say okay as property as as sort of it has that vibe of love when they try when players tried to protest and take a knee like there was this you know the bob mcnair quote about mates in the aside. I mean that's the there's there's so much more than that. I don't think jay z would have any influence on. I don't think it would be made you a not. I i don't literally the way the league is right. It's the wait is and you know. There are some players who talked about it before. It's like a what they call a <hes>. You know the slave owner mentality plantation mentality so you know well. I think the bigger thing though to the texans referred him as mr yes mr it doesn't get much more than that literally have that out the respect i did call al davis mr canadian by you mr mr davis <hes> but i honestly think that now <hes> today's point though that everyone knows what the what kneeling now means like they understand in it like before it was like why why in the thing about it is we still haven't heard from president trump and that's the bigger issue. You know what i mean. I think think when once he starts to get in on it that's when the n._f._l. Is like okay because they had to wait till he stopped talking about it before they can introduce jay z. right right 'cause last year if we always look at my notes from where we were a year ago that was the hot button topic last year was about who's going to kneel. Are they going to continue and member number. This is where donald trump still doing president trump was still doing the same things and enlighten that fire this year. He's moved away from each other. Things going on and that's so i think the n._f._l. Has said look. We understand our players. We hear you. We know what it's all about but it's a little hard to market certain players if you're not listening to what they're saying especially with their their ventures off the field as well all right. I wanna remind everybody that tomorrow morning. Early ramona's podcasters drops ramona word. How do people subscribe thirty for thirty podcasts cast sterling. Thank you remote thirty thirty dot com for thirty podcasts dot com. Anywhere podcasts are found. I've heard the whole thing kurkin andy it is spectacular. I've said i've said a few times the show i think it's the best work ramona's ever done and i think it's really really good and i think it's going to lead to play a little yeah is it is it is it a coincidence stole ramona that these steve yano is getting back active on instagram at the last few days i saw interesting to her many many times and friends of hers and her lawyer declined and it was oh it was really interesting to me that she started resurfacing servicing over social media. I was like come on now. Where were you what i know. I know i think about this through where we are right now in the n._b._a. In los angeles with these two teams hopefully set up to just have this basketball mecca. None of that happens with viana like these bianco created created l. a. basketball. It's a truth yeah very interesting so so make sure you subscribe to that ramona. Thank you good luck with zero. It's going to be a big day for you. Mauri the way too much of me. 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The Last Dance, Re-living the Demise of the 90s Bulls, and the NBAs Quarantine Bubble With Bill Simmons | The Mismatch

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The Last Dance, Re-living the Demise of the 90s Bulls, and the NBAs Quarantine Bubble With Bill Simmons | The Mismatch

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The money goes directly to world central kitchen in its charitable donation once again. That's the ringer dot com slash W. C. K. And now time for the mismatch welcome to bring NBA show. I'm Chris Vernon join me every Tuesday from the ringer dot com. It's Kevin O'Connor AK Kevin Obama Kevin Concert Kevin O. Climber Kevin O. Controversy Kevin O. Comment Caravan. What's going on Chris. We get a special guest. Don't we we do have a very special guest big boss? Bill Simmons has dropped in for today's ringer. Mba show. Hello Bill. What an honor so proud to be here so happy froude honored bill all right we have to start with like everybody in the free world. Watch the last dance the other night. It appears Draymond. Green did too and draymond green went on a podcast yesterday. uninterrupted W RT s after. Show party with Paul Rivera and Maverick Carter. No less And he likened their last season with Kevin Durant the warriors to what he had just watched on. Tv with the last season of the Bulls and he didn't hold back and he said one of the things from watching it. Was that what you saw? Is everybody kind of set it up like this is going to be the last year and so there was none of that elephant in the room hanging out there for their team That last warriors team with Durant and said that you know. Steve tried to deal with it but Kevin was asked about it every day. Dream on saying I want to be a warrior for Life Klay say and I want to be a warrior for life and then there was this elephant in the room the entire year and it was almost as if he watched the last dance and thought Jeez They handled that a lot. Better like hanging out there the whole year. Everybody knew that was going to be the end and so they just treated it that way the whole year. What you guys think. I mean ownership didn't handle it better. The player of the players may have the players may have handled it at worst. And Scottie Pippen you know getting the surgery when he did wanting out you know Jordan thinking was selfish but ownership on the warriors side of things. At least their goal is building with sustainability. They WANNA keep steph curry and Klay Thompson and continue winning. Reisen Dorf in Krause and the Bulls were ready to pull the plug after the first three championships. Trying to trade pippen for camp granted that still a win but then after it it's about China. Tear Down Arriba. I don't see that from the warriors now but it is fascinating. How much history has repeated in some ways with the disease of more and whatnot that manifested with Katie? Always being jealous of steph curry in the spotlight that he received and you look at what the Bulls went through in the nineties. I it is hard to see the parallels from the players side. We think I didn't see it. I just think Jerry mind was a I think he was a little narcissistic with it is totally different situation. Durant in that situation is basically the Rodman character. Rodman was on the Bulls for three years. Durant shows up for three years pushes him to another level but other I mean the bulls thing was so different Jordan and pippen were together for you know twelve years and there were Phil Jackson for. I don't know it was at least nine or whatever and everything was the same and they were just going going going and they had all these different ups and downs and that warriors thing you know they durant was on that team for blip was if you add up when when he actually showed up and then when he left. It's less than three years. It's like thirty months It's not a perfect comparable for for either team. But I do think you know the players you know seeking that attention. Wanting what's there's at I think with that aspect there's some similarities but overall though I mean I'm with you in the sense that ownership in front office objectives here are far different in what the Bulls wanted to do in the nineties with Crowson. Reisen Dorf is far different than what the warriors are trying to do with Myers and and warriors ownership. Now right I mean the differences with the warriors thing. It was one person undermining the whole thing. Durant yeah the Bulls thing it was. It was like a bad marriage with you. Know eight nine different people. All knowing like the marriage is ending and I think with the warriors they kept trying to pull durant back in that second season when he was there was when it started to fall apart in the third season. I still feel like they felt like it might be salvageable until they had that clippers game and then after that I think there are some similarities with the chemistry. Let's say let's say this. Let's say draymond. His way would have played out the way he wanted to write like. I don't buy for one second. If Kevin Durant started that season said this is my last year with the warriors it still would have been a problem like the right here the whole year by the way. He should have done that though. That's how he should have handled it and I think part of the problem is he didn't handle it that way. And you know the players and the team new organization. They knew he was leaving. They knew about all the New York stuff they thought it was gonna be the Knicks but they knew he was leaving. It was by especially by February march ever in the league new so I think from that standpoint underminded what's the elephant in the room. That draymond talking about that. You know what I'm saying if they all had this understanding Kevin. Ain't going to be with US after this year. Then why is he acting like it was a problem throughout the entire year? That Kevin was just saying Oh. I don't know we'll see we'll because I think Kevin probably agree with this. I think there was still hope that he might do a one eighty. You know I I think that. And honestly with the with the ninety eight balls and you're gonNA find out in the tenth part it came a lot closer to everybody coming back except for Rodman I I think they knew Rodman was done but I think once they actually won. I think there was a moment there where they were like Holy Shit. What are we doing? We gotTA defend this again. I think with the warriors they were always trying to pull durant back and even if you think about the playoffs before he got hurt remember how credible he was A. I mean the first rounded half like this guy is clearly the best player in the League and then he gets hurt. I still wonder if they had won the title with him. Kevin do you think he leaves? They win the title. Do you think he's like all right guys. I'll see you later. Part of be still wonders if that actually happens but you know. That was part of the reason it went. Well maybe they always had that hope like you said I mean everybody knew everybody was talking about it as you mentioned that. Katie was likely leaving for people thought the Knicks of the time. And that's more in the back seat. It seemed until he actually made that decision. But I mean you just don't know sometimes when it comes to hearing what players are thinking in hearing players designs. Arcadi or anybody else sometimes. It's dangerous to ride that wave. 'cause you know one week it's one thing the next week at something else because that's what it is for players. They changed their mind. Just like any other people do so especially hit war yes especially Katie and so for the warriors it would make sense not to assume a hundred percent. Katie's leaving despite everything that's happening right now and for them obviously. It didn't work out but they want to titles of them It was great to have him and moving forward for that team. At least they're trying to continue winning and I mean they're going to be right there at the top championship contention as soon as basketball resumes. Chris I I will say this. I think if you put that kind of ninety three to ninety eight stretch of the Bulls in the modern era with twitter and the way we cover basketball. Now I don't I don't think it survived until nineteen ninety eight especially the pip and stuff you think about like 'cause we knew believe me. I was there for all of this. We knew what PIPPA was doing at the time when he got his surgery and it was a story but it just basketball wasn't covered the same way he almost left out in the dock like he almost got traded to the Celtics Ninety seven and that was a that was a big draft. A thing where it was going to be the number three and six pick in the nineteen ninety eight number. One Pippen. Patino is trying to do that as his first big move and by all accounts almost happen. You think about that trade. It would have been chauncey. Billups was Ron Mercer. Could've been T- MAC. Could take a t max six. And then the ninety eight first. Rounder is Paul Pierce that that so thank God for the Celtics. That didn't happen but you know. He was in trade rumors for that. He was in trade rumors for Shawn. Kemp I think him specifically making as little money as he was making. That deal went along I I think that would create. I think the Internet and just the day to day of it. He would've gone crazy. Why didn't they try them? They almost did. They did. Did REINSDORF step in on that? Because you've got a guy who clearly said. I play my last game in a bulls uniform and then they say that he you know He. Requests a trade. You know that cross wants to trade him. Why did it Trae does not happen? It was Jordan right. Well it's a little Jordan but I think ultimately They should have made the celtic straight. I mean honestly they if you think about that trade where you're getting a third pick six pack and a future unprotected number one the following year for guy who can leave in a year like it's almost like kind of criminal. They didn't do that the other one. When they almost did the Shawn Kemp trade which I can't remember what year that was but camp hadn't had any problems yet like he was still like it looked like he was a Carl Malone type guy and I think that was earlier that might have even been in the early nineties I'M GONNA look it up after Kevin starts talking but But I remember that one that would have been a really fun one too because I think Jordan could have changed the trajectory of Kemp's career. You know Kemp Kemp was the guy who ended up having a lot of problems In Jordan had this knack of either he brought the best out of you or he discarded you. You know somebody camp who was just so talented. One of things I love about. This. Doc is just. I feel like Kevin's generation. I'm I'm GonNa Throw Kevin on the bus. The Kevin Generation like they just weren't there for Jordan and I don't mean to be like the I was there guy but it was really interesting watching the reactions where people are like Holy Shit Jordan had sixty three against the Celtics stuff that I've just known my whole life and I just forget sometimes that if you're under thirty why would you know this. Why would you have a Jordan opinion? You know and the other thing is you and I Bill We grew up. And you'd Watch the O. Clips and you're like. Yeah Right Bob. Cousy dribbling around with one hand. He's probably not scoring now. There's no way you could watch all those Jordan highlights and think that doesn't translate to what we watch each scoring now. It's not like our our group would watch old highlights and it seemed like a distant memory And you watch those guys and you go. They would get swallowed up in a league now whereas there's nobody that can't watch that and like he's he says what is anybody. That's in the League today. I mean you watch you watch pippen highlights and today thinking about Ooh Magin him in today's league five position versatility in the defensive van he'd be a big point forward running the show greater the average like six seven assists during the nineties. Three as you probably be empowered to be the full time point guards. I mean there's a difference in that aspect for sure I mean I've said this before. I've said it's hard for me as someone who was born in nineteen ninety two when comes to the goat debate. You Know Lebron and Michael Jordan whoever else you want to throw in that Corinne debate. It's hard for me to be part of that as someone who didn't live through Michael Jordan. I've said that before and I think it's nice to have this documentary for people my age or younger much younger. That weren't even able to experience Jordan while it was happening even a little bit producer. Bobby's producing this podcast. He probably thinks like Steph. Curry is the greatest of all time. Twenty four already ever heard of Michael Jordan slowed down a little bit. I had hardwood classics. Have Gone Back and watch what point of playing basketball in high school to just go back and watch all the Jordan finals rounds but that was about it. You're right I didn't live through it day today so I didn't really understand like the mentality of the players. He was going against which I know is obviously a big thing that people use in the argument for Jordan. Just nobody ever thought they were going to win. So the biggest thing now. I feel like I missed out on young on this Chris. The it's not. The thing is not a debate. The only way Lebron is even in the consideration is just for the duration of how long he's played but I think by the time people finish this ten parts. They're just gonNA feel stupid. Jordan took out every every single rival. He had for an entire decade he vanquished of them and he was the best at everything and you know especially some of the younger people are like well. You know he look in his three point. Shooting percentage or whatever say it's like if Jordan had known three pointers we're GONNA be as important as they became in two thousand twenty. Guess what he would have been the best three point shooter. He just would've shot a million of them and he was shot forty five percent from three. He was athletically like perfect. And you watch you. What you'll see is this thing. Goes along his footwork? His athleticism his intelligence the way he could breakdowns of like Kirk. Goldsboro had peace with the shot charts from the last two years. He is by far the best mid range shooter. Ever you know this was a guy with people play in real defense on them. Who would make like fifty five percent of his seventeen eighteen footers? There's never anything like it. Even Kobe who was doing a Jordan impersonation like just was not on the same level. So I'm excited. That people actually are like really realizing how good he was. Lebron's career is still being written. Though not over yet there could be more championships to come. There can be no more. Who knows but it's still being written and that's another reason why. I think it is a bit hard to compare the two when when Lasagna well and it comes down to twenty five years of Lebron verse fourteen years or whatever and and at some point it just keeps playing and playing say like he had a greater career but I. I don't think you could say he was a greater player. He just wasn't you. Were talking about the media coverage and how much different it is now. And I know you've seen this footage you in fact said with Ryan you got to look at this years ago when you were trying to put together a Horton Doc. I wonder everybody now. Every kid your kids. My kids they Kevin for that matter. They grow up with a camera in their face right. They know how to act on camera. I'm interested in what this footage is going to show and being that you have already seen what we are going to see going forward. Is there any chance? Another team would allow a camera crew to be embedded as this one was once upon a time for answer that the draft night nineteen ninety four. It was pippen for Shawn Kemp Ricky Pierce. And they swapped first round picks. Wow and that was like the Bulls. Try and rebuild. Because they didn't know if they're gonNA have Jordan back so that happens they're getting camp right is he's becoming like Karl Malone basically Yes so with that footage and stuff you say the the second half of this documentary. The last five episodes really starts diving into that ninety eight season in the playoffs and all that stuff and The thing I loved about it was it was like the weathering Jordan that I'd always heard about and I remember the. Oh Six all star game. I wrote a whole piece about just randomly sitting at the table next to him at the four seasons when he showed up with his friends and started playing cards and was like bullying people. And just being like cocky competitive Jordan and it was like. Oh this is the guy that everyone wrote about. And I think there's pieces of that in the dock and I people are going to really like it. It's not a hundred percent. Flattering for him. Either and I I I give him credit for being like fucking put it out there But for for the camera crew thing so Kobe I know. Kobe recorded like the last two years of his career and had a camera crew going everywhere and there was a famous story about That I am. I'm sure is true. I don't know if it's public but says the fucking aggregate are going to get in this but De Ngelo Russell apologizing to the team for the Nick Young thing and the whole teams in there and he's like all motion and then like halfway through. Kobe showed up with this camera. Crew was like what the fuck you guys doing starts making fun of A. He's actually like has the carers taping it but That footage is is starting to take on a life of its own to for people like oh I something. I'll tell you what would be the same as this but now that what happened with Kobe I think there will be some mystique with it. Was it was so set up because I was at a game. Where is Kobe's last season and he came here and there's a TV timeout right? So like you're nobody that you have to be the in the arena to see this and I'm not kidding you at the time out there over by the Lakers bench. A camera crew runs out. I'm talking with lights. And the whole thing and he and he brings the ref over like Bill Kennedy or somebody and he's talking. I'm like they are filming a fucking movie. See Yeah in the middle of this game. I'm like this is sanity. I've never I what is happening here. Another example was in the summer. Two thousand ten and weighed and by film their whole free agency thing and this was pitched us as a thirty for thirty. Wow but the funniest thing is. They didn't realize they had to get permission from the different teams and most of the teams were like. No fuck you taping our free agent pitch so they ended up. I think I think Ironically Daryl Morey was the only one who signs so there's video of Daryl Warriors Free Agency pitch with Chris. Bosh Ringer Doc. Yeah so those guys have had that forever. And I don't know if Dwayne Wade in putting it in his team but they had this. That was the era Kaz. Thirty thirty had already happened. And that was the the first year when athletes were like. Oh I can control my own narrative and the content. That's when Lebron does the decision that's the only way to have a camera crew sudden and then it kind of evolves to where we are now with these guys. I I just think were there. Were too familiar with these guys now. I don't think it would have the same kind of SPA. I would always feel like it was an infomercial. You know like Libron had a camera crew out. Oh is be like well. Why is he doing this? What are we are we seeing the real Lebron or like what? He wants us to see what I liked about this Jordan from ninety eight was it's the real Jordan and you see you're going to see in future episodes like the thing that struck me. Eleven years ago was Kinda how weird his life was where he couldn't go anywhere and he's just hanging out these four security guards and he's in a hotel suite at the Games he's hiding in the officials room a here. He has no human interactions. He was so famous way more famous than any athlete. We have now is so he was like the Beatles. He couldn't do anything so that was what his life was like. And I think that's why he would retired anyway debates for most valuable player and focusing on player analytics like the Greek Freak. Pr taken a back seat. 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We're GONNA talk about some of the things that we that we didn't know in the dock or that we took away from the dock and I am always most interested in people personally and like how became how they became and there was one thing that I didn't know that stood out to me probably the most that I I always feel this way when I'm reading a book and I'm like Oh that's why he's that way and it's this clip and it's not one that got played a lot of play but his dad is talking about. He basically says these got the older brother. His Dad favors the older brother. And Michael is the kind of kid that if you ask them for a Phillips head screwdriver he might give you a pair of pliers. I say go hang out with your mom and then you have this moment. Where older Jordan is saying like traumatic to grow up that way and that he was always trying to prove to his father or Dane. His father's attention and it's interesting because all three of US had sports dad's there some element of what drove us to what we like. Is that our it signifies moments with our father and our father pay pays attention to us because we're so involved in sports so we're not athletes but you always try to figure out like why is he like this. Why does he work harder than everybody? Why is he wired like this? And I don't even have to be like some kind of pop psychologist just watching that. I'm thinking like this whole this whole idea of father's approval which has been around since the beginning of time and I never thought I'd hear Michael Jordan say something about his childhood traumatic and yet here it is. He's talking about rolling up in his house fighting with his brothers and fighting for attention. And you do kind of get a window into. Oh that's why he wants to rip your heart out you know. He's been doing that since he was a little kid. It was crazy to me shows. How much personality in in our childhood shapes who we become. I mean Michael Jordan's. They mentioned both. My parents always taught hard. Work gave him hard lessons competitive family overall and that essentially activated and shaped him to become one of the most competitive men in history. And then you have Scottie Pippen. Who had his father and his brother who were confined to wheelchairs. And he's from intense poverty and that helped make him into the competitor who he wasn't shaped some of the choices he made like we saw. What signing the salary to in order to support his family it shows. How much background is needed when it comes to draft decisions when it comes to personnel decisions and it makes us all of us as people who are backgrounds. I definitely think. Kfc in his eighty seven draft guide would have loved pippen. Kfc was minus seven years old. I think he fucking loves. He loves him. Look rebuil- my story of like in the same thing that there with Rodman episode three these guys that are six one six two and they go to college and then they grow five. Six seven inches. Pippen grew five inches in college. Yeah but they're so they have point guards bodies and then all of a sudden go from six one two six seven and they keep all the skills which is the same thing that happened to Rodman. Rodman went from like five nine. Two six eight in a year and a half pippen thing is insane. And I don't think and I think this is because when you're robbing your story doesn't get told as much. I don't think that that's got enough. Play that the kid went to. He wasn't even he didn't. I always thought he went to Central Arkansas to play basketball and he wasn't. That good coming out is school. And that's why he went to Central Arkansas. He wasn't even on the team right he was. I mean for a kid and now that I went to a school it is the most important thing in the world to somebody from an NA AA school could go number five. I mean it would never happen again. Ever you would get some division one power five school would find out about you and by your sophomore year you would have transferred somewhere but Scottie Pippen going from not a player but in equipment manager on an Noaa school to the number five pick in the NBA draft might be the most incredible thing ever. Well the other thing with that. I don't know if the if the DOC I it's really good I don't know if it totally captures in the first two parts were Jordan. Meant to kids and teenagers. Because I was. Yeah Obviously Diehard Boston Fan I love Jordan and Jordan was like our guy you know we'd always heard about Dr J. and Connie Hawkins Eligibility for these guys Jordan was like. Oh this is our guy. His posters were cool. He had ads here. He had all these things and by the time. We got to the eighty-seven draft. Everybody wanted him to have better teammates. 'cause the Celtics Day it's glossed over this dark but the Celtics killed them for two straight years. They they won all six playoff games too so when they were all right a lot of blow outs when they took pippen and they traded up and it was like they had the eighth pick. Seattle the fifth pick but it was a good draft. We knew it was a good draft. And you look back at it like we thought Dennis Hopson was going to be good. He wasn't but Reggie Williams was Georgetown Guy. Thought he was going to be good Scottie. Pippen Kenny Smith Kevin Johnson Horace Grant Reggie Miller and it was like I really hope the Bulls get somebody good and they took pippen and it was like what the fuck this Guy Central Arkansas like showing the clips of them and it looked. You know like the Jaanus Greek. Ymca clips where you just like. What is this is that and it was also a time when you know everybody. Really Watch college basketball the same way. Like Casey's like one of five people have to watch his college basketball obsessively in eighty seven. We all knew who all the guys. We're we're watching everything. And when they when they ended up with him it was like motherfuckers. Like why are you fucking around with Jordan? And like you gotta get gotTa get him. Somebody good and we had no idea and it was early. It was apparent that first year it was like Oh shit you know he was so athletic? You could just see you knew he was going to be something. Even as a rookie does cross deserve more credit than it seemed. He got in those first two parts of the documentary for Building. This thing out into the team that it was. There's no question I think. So there's no question I mean look. Those are bold moves now. You took a kid from NASA school and traded up to take a kid from school that if that doesn't work out and you passed on somebody like bill that's on TV and everybody is aware of that is obviously fireable. You've got he trades Jordan's best friend which I thought it was very fascinating for Jordan. Yeah it made us a better team. Yeah that was a big deal at the time because oak was better than cartwright right. The trade date in one hundred percent makes sense when it happened because Oakley was like twenty four twenty five and was really good. Here's one thing that wasn't explained. Either that stood out to me was I had no idea how Jerry Krause got that job but they just gloss over the fact that Jerry. Krause is a baseball scout. Who OBVIOUSLY SCULPTURE JERRY? Reinsdorf and goes. I want to be the general manager of the Bulls. And it's like okay and that's how we got the job like what was it about it's ten episodes. It's forty nine minutes and episodes so you can't do everything and I'm with you. Like the craft stuff crested a really good job like the. Ku Coach pick and him coveting coach during a time. When foreign guys either Serena Marshall Onus was the first foreign guy that even came into the league that was like nineteen eighty nine? Maybe something like that. And Petra Vick was coming and divide showed up on the Lakers. But it's still pretty early to be like I'm all in on this coach. Guy And it's funny. How much they they'll go into this in a later episode but Jordan and pippen like really resented the coach saying they really tried to like destroy him the at the Olympics and meanwhile this is like the perfect guy to play with them he could play three positions that he can handle the ball. But I'm with you. I think cross was just a really petty asshole you know and I think a baseball scout get an NBA GM job when rival the owner. Because you know it's it's it's worse than that. It was the eighties. Like crazy stuff happens you go back and you look at you. Had owners like Ted steapy and the Cleveland cavs owner. They traded so many first round pick. Said so like. Make a rule. You'd Sterling Sterling like moving the clippers from San Diego to La and getting alone from Jerry Buss and one of the things that I I didn't hear anybody bring up those fascinating to me as you're watching it and part of the reason that this guy get kicked around so much is a weird dude anyway. But he's the short fat guy who never played any sports and the players. I must tell you the. Nba Now is littered with the Non Athletes Yameen. He's really ahead of his time in Yang. The Guy who's not just some dopey former athlete. Who was given the job In order to in order to put together team obviously we've had great guys that are built championship teams Joe Dumars Jerry West on and on former players. That were great at the job. There's also a lot of former players who were not great at the job but you have that data element of that a lot. Yeah you have that whole element of the players like resenting a guy or just not respecting a guy at all that does exist now you have to really earn it by being very smart and earned players trust when you are not a former player and now the league is filled with non former players as GM. There's not many that are Phil. Phil had something to do with that. Though I I think I don't know how I can't remember. How much goes into this during the during the show but You know it's like if your parents are in a divorce. The parents can turn the kids against the other parent right. Everybody all the Bulls Love Phil. And if he hates Jerry Krause and they're not talking he's subtle different ways to to really turn them against crafts. And I and I think it goes into the pippen part and the second episode. It went too far the PIP and stuff. And if you read the book by Halberstam goes really into him. Just like Berating Krause and the bus in like a really ugly way where like Holy Shit we have to trade this guy but I think with the crowd stuff. You know. The the thing that he didn't get enough credit for was the Phil Jackson move where Collins was doing well like that team was competing in the playoffs. He was only there a couple of years and he. He saw something and moving fill in when he did. I think aloud at least that ninety one title. I thought that was a ballsy move like. Kfc would have written a huge piece about that if they did that. Now is the equivalent of even know. Whoever successful coach is spooked? And that guy. Everybody was like what they're firing. Doug Collins was surprising I think the last one is when they kept going to the Eastern Conference finals the Pistons and then they moved off a carlisle and hired Larry Brown. Yeah Good Point True. Probably like something like that. Kfc what else stood out. Well Phil Jackson. Though to that point I mean he was. He was coaching a team called the Albany protrudes from eighty to eighty seven when he got hired as a bowls assistant and rising. Dorf did mention. That Krause deserves credit for giving Jackson an opportunity. And I mean I brought up krause because I feel like Reisen. Dorf sort of has evaded. Blame the way we've talked about this show since since then within the documentary itself. I mean he's the guy who he himself said he was told. Don't touch krause. He has a way of alienating people but he said I wasn't hiring someone to win a personality contest. I wanted somebody who truly believes in building a team the way I wanted them to and Kraus was that guy and he let this chaos develop over the years. I mean at some point. He made the choice between Krause. And Phil and Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen I think Reisen Dorf at that time. Probably should have pulled the plug on Jerry. Krause hired someone else into that job and move forward with Phil Jackson Michael Jordan. And maybe Scottie Pippen and it makes me wonder though how much of it from rising doors perspective was. I don't want to pay Phil Jackson the money he wants. I don't WANNA pay Scotty. Pippin THE MONEY. He wants his rise. North over the years has been notoriously cheaper owner after winning five championships. Was that part of it when it came to his decisions at the time that really pushed krause to change everything I mean. Carlson obviously deserves blamed for you know the petty things that he did and for the way he was. But it's just a little odd to me that rise endorphin sort of you know scooted by here without any blame. Chris should we correct cassie? And how he's saying Ransdorf's name or no. I was GONNA go. I wanted. I wanted to go the whole episode. I like Risa Dorf though. Because it feels Ryan stores talking about can feel better that thing with the thing with Phil Jackson. When they actually made him the coach he was like the guy in the Knicks. Who was the hippie? Who had long hair? Who wrote a book called Maverick? That's one of the ten most unbelievable. Mba books like talks a lot about drug use and things like that. It's great you can't even find it on Ebay And and it just kinda seemed him even when he became an assistant coach. Phil Jackson's assistant coach like he just had this reputation as being this kind of Zen hippy. Guy It's crazy. What happened but you look at the relationships. He had over the years. You know he he. He's kind of drama Queen. You know you put him in the situation. Look at all the stuff that happened. Within the Lakers he quit the Lakers. He came back a year later. D- are then it ends up quitting again and you know. I think he kind of fed off this stuff too so you put him Rodman Pippen Jordan. Kraus Reisen Dorf of you could give them historical perspective to this. Because it's not really broached in that in the episodes that we have seen so far maybe it will as it goes forward but there is a we know as the years went on. The there wasn't impending lockout like add happened. And how much is that in the calculus of what happens with this thing being brave enough hundred percent in the calculus I? It was like I'm trying to think of modern be times when this happened. I guess two thousand eleven was like this because if I remember I was writing about a lot in two thousand ten and eleven for ESPN and great land especially the two thousand eleven playoffs. Were you'd knew something bad was going to happen. And then something bad happened In this case the League was out of Control The rookie contracts people being able to opt data deals and the CAP was outta whack like MJ. Mid Thirty three million his last year in. I don't even really know how that worked with the CAP or I. I don't understand why they couldn't have fixed. Pippen contract things like that The other thing that they didn't really go into enough I I didn't feel like in the dock just explaining the pippen contract which is fine because you only have so much time but like pippen's real screw up was he had a six year rookie deal and after year four year allowed to sign an extension which he did because he wanted to save guaranteed money but the extension at which I think was a five year extension. So people are saying seventy or eighty million dollar deal. It actually wasn't. He had two years left on his rookie deal. And then you added the five-year extension after it. So when he was playing in the ninety one ninety two ninety two ninety three seasons under his rookie. Contract didn't get the new money at and the extension hasn't even kicked in versus. If he had just ridden a now he would have been a free agent after the ninety three season and he would have made like you know five times as much money as he lays out in the dock he just wanted to security because he had to take care of all these people back in Arkansas and that was the part. That really sucked. Because I wasn't stupid for him do that. He was trying to lock down enough money to take care of these people. He didn't care about nine hundred ninety eight but then is your in the contract. You're like Oh what did I do well and this is crazy because I didn't. I didn't remember this until I saw somebody mentioned it. The other night his agent actually lives not far from me. I see him all the time. It's Jimmy Sexton is he. Runs College football now right nick. Saban's agent he's everybody's agent and Jimmy was very very young because he's Jimmy had he. He went to college at Tennessee and he had a started. The whole thing with one client. And that was reggie white a and so we had reggie white and he started this Athletic Resource Management Out of Memphis Tennessee. No less and then he got this kid from Arkansas. Scottie Pippen so I mean. He was very young agent at the time. I need to find out how that all played out. Because I think it's easy for us to watch that. In retrospect and be like man. That was so dumb but like look man you got to frigging people in your own house in a wheelchair like yes. It is no way that you don't constantly have this feeling of it. Could all be taken away from me any day I better? I better get this while I can. You know. Got Him back apprising as much as it did either. I mean it was what seventeen million dollar cap when he signed the deal and it was like forty forty five million when when he signed the next one as you said bill he did. Make it back with the the new deal. The Portland contract. He signed was ridiculous. Amedee made he ended up making more money than Jordan. Did as a as a player but then the funny thing is he goes back to Jay talks about this. He goes back to the Bulls after his Portland Contract and Oh three and science. Two years ten million. And he's just done he's like this and I'm getting these fuckers back. And he plays twenty three games for the Bulls. It makes ten million bucks which was like half of what he made for them the entire time but yet if he had been a free agent in in ninety three I have you done really well and he would have been that that could have been the end of the Bulls Dynasty right there so in a weird the fact that he signed that goofy extension probably enabled the last titles. You didn't see the Pippen's wife tweet the other night. When everybody was lamenting how chronically underpaid he was she tweeted out a pitcher of Scottie. Pippen and said thanks for your concern. Scotty did okay. And then it says career earnings a hundred ninety nine dollars. Oh I wrote a piece two years ago about when it looked. Lebron might not have a team to go to after eighteen about how Jordan's last season he kinda didn't have anywhere to go. That was one of the reasons he retired. She go back and you look at that. Ninety nine lockout ends. Everybody has more money to spend was only like seven contenders had cap space. And the rockets were one of the seven. And in retrospect if Jordan had wanted to play again he's friends with Barkley Barkley Hakeem. They had the money. Give Pippen that contract. It would have been interesting. If Jordan's Ike I want I don't WanNa stop playing. I'll go to the rockets and play with Barclay for Barclay and Keam. I'll do a one year deal. Whatever PIPPA go somewhere else. There's a lot of what ifs from that lockout because one of the things that happened all the sudden it got solved and it was like this ten day free for all that was a little bit like member and To December two thousand eleven when the lockout ended and all hell broke loose. And it was like the Chris Paltry it's happening and guys are signing left and right. It was a lot like that and you know I. I'm sure that's going to happen again. When is the next potential cow? Kfc Twenty twenty four. However I mean with everything happening now. They're opening up for could open up. Cba negotiations sooner. So we'll see if that twenty twenty four days. Yeah because I mean how could we even know what basketball related income is this year? Well that's the part that I haven't and there's no way to write about it but what happens to the salary cap next year that the teams are already talking about that? 'cause you know the southern caps cut and dried based on revenue and if between all the revenue they lost in China the regular season games they lost and if the playoffs come back in July. There's GonNa be abbreviated playoffs. There's going to be ad revenue that they lose the cap for next season could go down by twenty five million bucks twenty million. I don't know I don't even know what the exact number as and you look at a team like Golden State and they have curry Klay Thompson and wiggins just those three make like a hundred billion dollars next year. I have no idea how this is gonNA work. I don't know if it'll drop by that much. But it's going to drop at least some amount and that's going to change the whole equation for what we've been talking about this this past year and all that when it comes to teams are going to have maxed out of space. We talk about the Knicks. Having Double Max slots in twenty twenty one. They may not have one or they'll have maybe only one and not much else to do. And it's GonNa change the whole equation. Kfc The might almost have to do some weird formula with it right where it's like the salary cap. It's really eighty boat. Let's pretend it's a hundred so we can have more maneuver bet late? They might have to create some formula to make it more competitive because it's GonNa favor the teams that have the contracts locked in already in. That's the weird thing about you know so everybody's talking about players. Salaries are getting with health. And I think the way that's been perceived by the public that owners or keeping the money from the players on this but that's not the way it is it's the Bri basketball rated income that split fifty one percent for players for nine percent to the team so the share remains the same. You know a player a player whether he gives back money in his paycheck now or gives it back in August or September is making the same amount no matter what. And it's a bit interesting that you know. Revenue is what's determining the percent of the players receiving yet with the salary cap. It still counts. As that exact number players rating thirty million he counts as against a cap is thirty million. Even though because of everything happening he might only actually make twenty five million and so I wonder if maybe moving forward it should be. Maybe percentage of the salary cap. You know that's what a player makes. Yeah I think what you laid out is probably going to happen but there's GonNa be some ramifications because the the MAC salary just won't be as high and if you go back to ninety nine member K. G. signed that member. Chris what was it like one hundred twenty five million for six years something like that. He's making twenty million a year but then but then it switched. They put in the new cap after the lockout. And the Max Guy could only the most you could sign for was six years I think one and Marbury Marbury was pissed off about is cagey teammate. And he could. He could only make like sixty percent. What Cagey was any? Couldn't get over and was like I need to be a franchise guy on my own team. I think I bet we see that with some MBA guys. You're going to have situations where somebody's banking thirty. Five billion and Jason Tatum. It's time for his Max deal and he can only make twenty two million as a Mac sky. It's going to be an issue. Well it might happen with the guys who are already signed extensions to bayside ahead of time. They're getting twenty five percent. Some of these rookie. Max Extensions about twenty five percent is going to be way lower than what we hope for. Chris ally like why Paul George where they have the Blair options player options. They can opt into this huge number that if they went in the free agent market. They're looking at sixty percent of it. If the CAP goes down a ladder a little whatever so it around Gatien's it's always the guys that people feel like don't deserve it getting paid an extraordinary amount like it's hard to explain cagey wasn't K. G. When he signed that deal but I remember. Oh basketball executive telling me it's not Kevin Garnett has contract that aft- up the League. It was big countries because every other guy around the league looked at that and said big country makes this. I deserve to make this right and I do think guys did a reasonable job with the understanding that that one year that the cap went up. And you had all those guys from you know Ken Bays More to Mike Conley on Kit. Chandler Parsons Allan CRABB. A Lotta guys. I think were pretty good about understanding. That was an outlier. And that's I can't be sitting there. Going CAN BIZ. More makes twenty million dollars. I make more than him back in the day. Like when you're talking about what the KGB stuff when you had very young players you even had even prior to that draft picks Glen Robinson comes out. And he's he's got eighty million dollars in his pocket or whatever. It is Kenny. Anderson's yeah there was like seven for sixty million and play the game right. That's why the decade there is so many disappointing guys. They all were making a ton of money. That hadn't even done anything yet and I think they realized that. That's that's not great. We gotta at least make these guys play for their first big contract and Kinda learn a work ethic and habits now now though because of the rookie scale contract you're GONNA have the number one. Pick making about twelve million dollars. Annually and any Arrow with a salary cap could be declining so like salaries have risen. Seek that go down though like could the rookie scale actually is that tied to the I. Those are those are set. I believe. Here's a here's a business side of things questions that you could answer bill that we couldn't as someone who's in charge of a business right so one of the terms that we've all been forced to learn through this pandemic is this Forced Missouri Right. Yeah that's an all these contracts which basically says so if I have a massive sponsor that has signed a year long contract like there's all these clauses and all these contract basically saying if there is a a a natural catastrophe if there is a pandemic if there is all this stuff. Here's what happens and that's why you have a million lawyers around the table. That's how we don't know about basketball related income so to that point like right now. They are not providing games. Say let's just take. Espn that's the biggest one. Right do you think is the NBA? Still is ESPN still cutting edge check to the NBA. Despite the fact that there is no product being produced on air right now my my understanding is yes and I think they also have the option maybe to back out or cut or stop or whatever but the thing is you're still in a relationship with the league and you when when everything gets better you want to be in a good relationship with the league so you don't want to jeopardize things that that the force majeure thing like it could be interpreted any way you want but if this if this whole event doesn't qualify for that. I don't know what does I mean right. I would say. Pandemic Earthquake Massive fire all that stuff I still feel like they're going to figure out this July tournament thing. I really think it's going to happen. I think they're waiting for baseball to come back first. And then they'll jump on it but I think it's GonNa be Vegas. La Orlando. They're going to figure out the bubble thing and they're just GonNa do it. There's too much money at stake and Whether I there might not even be media loud. There might just be players. People directly related to the Games people directly rated to filming Games And that's it but it's for this reason like there's so much money at stake from something for players owners. Tv networks. They all need to actually play basketball. That's why I think it's going to happen. I'm with you I would. I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't happen. Because who knows what's going to happen moving forward however That's their full speed ahead or line. They make this happen. Which made the Adam Silver Conference call last week that I was on when he talked to the media after the Board of governors meeting he more than any other time that I can remember him speaking publicly about this whether it was with Rachel Nichols on the job or Ernie Johnson on the twitter? Nba Live thing they did. He was more cautious with the things that he was saying about playing this past week then any other time. That can remember with him. However everything I've heard is what what you've just said bill that they their their intentions are fully two games going in in July and Adam silver was more like no. We're just listening to ideas. I don't think that's true. That's not true. There's a real reason. He played it that way. If I had to analyze it It's coming right off trump having the meeting or whatever he did zoom meeting with all the commissioners and a couple of different owners. I think Adam is being really sensitive about the perception of his players with how he handles it. Especially with the trump part of it. Because you think like I'm GonNa go out on a limb and say that Most of the player demographic is not in the trump camp just in general and I think that that's a delicate line to be like the players know. He's talking to the president. The players thinking trump's forcing him to come back or whatever and I just think they're trying to kind of navigate it. I don't think they WANNA BE I. That's what I keep hearing. They don't want to be the first league back and they're really kinda waiting for golf baseball and a couple of other things to get going. But I was saying this two weeks ago. I think it's GonNa be like a seven eight week run In starting July third lifeforce somewhere like that bubble system you do to La. Live Dude in Vegas at one casino or you do it in Orlando and you just you have everybody come into needs to be there. And nobody's allowed to leave and nobody else's ladder come in any test everybody and just kinda go and that's it who as a novel. Virus pandemic escalates in the United States. Public health officials are encouraging those who are experiencing signs or something so Cova nineteen coughing fever to seek medical guidance. For moly if you or a loved one are feeling sick or feeling worried. 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How how much different do you think what we're going through right now is? If it's David Stern still run in the league instead of Adam Stern Stern would be much more available. Present and kind of owning the real estate of an atom. Is that like stern had a little bit of a trump side to him where it's like here. I'm going to have another press conference today here. My thoughts you know like He. In Times of crisis he was very very available and president. And I think Adam is a little more behind the scenes Try and the interesting thing to me. And I'm just starting to find out details of this but just like coups emerging as the powerbrokers for driving this. If it actually does happen. Who's against it. Whose four things like that. Because I've heard some stuff about You know like at least one owner who who really felt like it should still be in the arenas if they came back and enough teams find back and forth and I think the debate is a lot more robust and and and heated then maybe has come out so far. Have you heard that Kevin? Yeah I mean there's a lot of this agreement for sure I mean. I think that's probably another reason. Why Adam Silver to take the stance that he did for the reason you mentioned but also you know there is nothing that has been set in stone yet here. I'm sure there are certain ideas that he's taking more seriously than others. And that is obviously the bubble idea just a matter of where you do in and whether you have one or two of them. I think the I think what Keith Smith wrote on. Yahoo makes a lot of sense. Disneyworld is already essentially a bubble. That is a place that already has the hotel infrastructure and has already. It's not a city like Los Angeles or Las Vegas where people can could theoretically go there and you know and try to sneak into a place. Disneyworld already has closed doors. Well there's also a tie in with your your biggest business partner right choke yep of course so it. Two thousand eleven. When they had that lockout and there it became a half have not staying with the owners and some owners kind of emerged as the powerful voice reason owners. I remember at the time like Peter. Holt was like San Antonio Guy became kind of the guy and like the conciliatory for the owners. And the conduit. I think Cuban was very important. Wit Gross back from the Celtics was important Clay Bennett from Oklahoma City was kind of the small market guy. And you had these different little file oems and they're all trying to figure it out but everybody has an agenda. I haven't heard enough yet about what the agendas are this time. Run and no Cuban is really active golden state the those owners and the Celtics owners and then you know obviously the thing is the owners that they have now are much more successful incompetent than the owners they had. Certainly you know twenty plus years ago and even in the two thousand eleven a lot of the guys that have bought into teams. Dour are really successful businessman. Who who care about what people think about them. So I think that's gotta be driving to that like the worst case scenario. You do this bubble thing it's going and then during round one Chris Middleton comes down with the Corona virus or whoever? And you're like Oh shit. Do we stop what happens. And I think that's the thing that they they're trying to figure out if we do this. Can we be a hundred percent? Sure we can start from a position of zero people have this and then they're in the bubble and there's all these different models if you do the bubble thing correctly. Nobody has it that nobody can give it to each other so the question is well. How do we know if somebody e-e-e-e-no is as symptomatic? And I know this is all the stuff they're talking about every day one thing. That is good or better than it once was is an you know this bill. These guys are way They're much more rich than they were before. And so these losses. It's not as big a deal when this happened even ten years ago. There's a lot of guys they'd like. You know the the amount of money that they may be losing right now. It can be tax. Write off its ashtray. Money to some of these guys honestly whereas because they got ten fifteen billion dollars seven billion dollars in some cases are so many guys that are so much more rich that own these teams then used to. You didn't have to be like crazy rich to own a basketball team even ten years ago. Yeah but I'll put that around the other way. There's people that became rich. Basically you know look at look at the Houston owner. He's a restaurants hotels Guy Right now. That's fair. Would you WANNA have investments at restaurants and hotels right now so? I do wonder if there's GONNA be some key. At least a couple of teams that keeps dragging on are. GonNa WanNa try to sell just to you know Jay because they need the money or whatever we were in a situation really the last two three years i. I don't even think there was really more than two teams ever legitimately for sale right. Kevin was like Minnesota. We'd heard rumors about other than that. I don't even know if there was a it was thirty owners who don't in their teams and they weren't for sale. Was there anyone Kevin none come to mind? I mean obviously Knicks fans would hope James Dolan would sell for five billion dollars or whatever the next will be valued at but even he's not not I guess I guess Brooklyn Cats but everyone he was trying to Brooklyn for a few years and the the key lost a lot of his fortune. So yeah I think you know whenever this whenever we come out of this and God knows what it's going to look like the League's going to be drastically. Different caps are going to be different. There's going to be new owners you're GonNa have a situation where the guys who got their salaries in Over the last three years are just going to have a higher Max number than the guys that are coming after a couple of quick things before we get out of here today all right so for both of you I for for Bill. You read every single book about this bull stuff you were. You wanted to make your own documentary on it. You lived through it right but you watched. Let's just take the first two hours? Which is what everybody. What did you not know that was in the first two episodes? I What K-. Oc you better say you didn't know something he's GonNa he said he's GonNa say he knew everything. Now I really did I you know. Not only did I live through it but when I wrote my book I read every book. And there's just nothing that was in this that I didn't know their stuff in the later episodes that I didn't know but these I two. They were set up big picture stuff. Even the stories on these guys like about pal. Joanne and I think a lot of us and playing for keeps a lot of yeah caves some of a lot of the NBA. Business stuff is in breaks to the game Jordan rules. They there's a lot of Jordan books like he was the first modern basketball player. Who is really covered in a real way where? I felt like I did not know anything saying I tell you this. I knew nothing about his brother's like I told you about how important that family stuff was. When I was I didn't know his mom was alive for that matter. She looks unbelievable. Yeah she's in her seventies for goodness sakes but the brother stopped and then somebody texted me yesterday. Like you know You know his brothers and executive for the Hornets and I was like wait. What one of. His brothers is an executive for the Hornets. Now I mean I've never even. It was weird. 'cause I when he's talking about it and again I'm sure it'll change. His time goes on but even when he talked brothers. It was all like bad stuff. I mean I had these brothers and I fought with them and it wasn't like I really looked up to my brother early. You know none of that stuff at Berkeley we. We're just so familiar with everybody. I everybody knows everyone of Lebron's kids. Everybody knows every everything about all these guys and now it's all these years later. The most famous athlete in the world and there was a lot of the family stuff that I didn't I didn't realize about Jordan. I mean just just overall I sort of take away Ryan's I thought on your Pod Bill. I thought it was pretty motivating. And there's some good life lessons in there. I thought the scene with Michael Jordan when he was a rookie with the Bulls and eat opened the door. And this people doing cocaine and everything. And he's like you know what this I'm not going to let this derail me I thought that was a really really cool. Part of the episode of me as funny. You know thinking about that team going from what he went to that but it was also sort of you know this is a guy who his whole life sort of knew what he wanted and he worked as hard as he possibly could every step of the way to achieve what he wanted to achieve. I I sort of felt the same way as Ryan on your pod. Bill to your point Kev on the guy didn't know about a you understand how it shapes him right that he was like. I'm I'm not going to be going out to the clubs or not doing whatever but it's different like even nowadays covering these guys like they go out is teams and they go out when they go out on the road or whatever but like how traumatic it must have been the open up a hotel room and there's chicks and cocaine and all the like you good like throw everything away. Nobody's throwing anything away from going to the Club in Miami when you know when these guys go out now but it's just so hard to even comprehend you know if you open up a door it any of us you open up a door and there's a bunch of people doing cocaine you're like damn if I'm a part of this I could. I could lose everything like nobody has that they should to make any more. But I mean honestly that was a huge factor with the league. He was going into. It's the height of the cocaine era. And you know it's not just destroying the NBA it's destroying the NFL and MLB to some degree and Hollywood there's so many comedians and actors and directors who got who nobody knew it. Was you know that debilitating from from seventy six all the way through? Then people started dying but if you go back in I I wrote about this in my book a little bit. The drug thing was was the dominant topic in the NBA. Other than bird magic for the first part of the eighties and we were losing guys left and right guys careers again cut short that was when stern he he put in the big the drug testing and the whole suspension thing that goes in and like eighty two eighty three and it all Crestwood. Len Bias. Eighty six when the lend bias thing happened and right after that the rockets who had made the finals Lewis. Lloyd Mitchell wiggins. They both had cocaine suspensions and this was the biggest problem in the league and it was interesting. He ended up on a team that I think it was probably a little worse off with that stuff than most. If you go back and look at the basketball reference You could probably figure out who a couple of guys were but yeah like what if he goes in there and he's like all right. I'll try one. You know like I bias is the Great Celtics would if my life and he was somebody that I think you know had a lot of Jordan and I. I don't think it's inconceivable that he could have been as good or better than Charles. Barkley or Karl Malone Fade. Come into the League. And he's you know he would. He was at least worst case. Scenario the Celtics version of James Worthy and he starts partying a little bit his last year Maryland and all of a sudden. Od's you know so. I I think the dangers that were in place for these guys really can't be overstated. People didn't know any better and and they were doing dumb stuff it's like it's like The episode nine or episode aid of Better Call Saul season five. When Mike Talking about bad choice road you make choices that lead up to where you are on your life. You make some good choices along the way you make some bad choices along the way. You can't do anything about that. She's about what you do. Move Forward. Chris I remember We'd huge Ringer Party cocaine women. Kfc We just hired kacie opens. The door looks and he's like I don't want that guys I did. We restroom at any. This is they. Don't have that but you do. Judge me for saying the bullshit of tanked eighty six season. Right he's read. Kfc's right one hundred percent rate. No Chris the lottery that year was seven teams. Everybody had the same odds. If you're the service with the same person and that was a really good draft. They absolutely should have thanked. I would've sat down would Jordan. The owner have sat down Jordan. Eighty six Jordan and the player. I bet he would have. I don't know you know he look even now running frigging they win thirty something games every year right potato anyway while I mean he could bottom out he has an charlotte. I do think he really believes that that there is an integrity to the game. And what the fuck away doing here go out and win. Your main explains a lot of explains a lot of the Hornets contracts. The last ten years their team that's obsessed with getting the six or seven seed getting to playoff games. Maybe three and that's called. It is on the sixty million bucks. Brassieres had a pretty good deal but not a sixty million dollars year were they bidding against. You're right all right two days away from the NFL draft. Both pats guys who do you want. And do you want to come away with a quarterback would you trade up for bill? Let's he falls out check just that he just doesn't do that. How many times does he traded up in twenty years? That's been like twice. He turned up in the high tower draft. When he loves a player he's willing to trade up it's very rare and we and we haven't seen him in a situation in which he needs a quarterback. I'm just saying there's a theoretical. If he were to fall well and I say benzes Guy Sapien. This guy if he you know he knows what he be getting into a better than anyone. I am all in on And Cam Newton or Janus. Oh try to load up on the draft genius for the fun of last year also throws thirty three thirty big to had five surgeries already. I know I know I know second line. There's a lot a red flags. They're scary. Big Curious I. I'm not sure if I WOULD WANNA trade up for him with all the injuries and the major surgeries that he's had. It's just something that I've thought about. What the potential scenario and Thursday would I want the Patriots do that yeah? Look I'll play on cams a good dude great player but I can't see him walking in and a frigging little Bo peep bonnet and a Polka dots scarf in a patriots press conference. I won't last with Bill Belichick. Let's get serious. Chris. We're not the super bowl. Run IS OVER I. I'm for like a fun patriots team. I know we're not winning the superbowl next year with it. Eight nine hundred eighty nine. Nfl draft was on last site. Which of course I watch three hours and it was during the height. It was during the height of when the Patriots were just awful and this is a draft. That had four hall of famers in the first five picks. Then Andre Rise in Thurman Thomas All these guys. And the PATS TOOK. Hartley dykes who played two years. Who got in a bar fight with? Every friar hurt his own fractures kneecap was out of the League in two years. But as you watch in this draft they're like Oh you know physical receivers speed You know some off field stuff but maybe going to New England to be better firm and it just took me back to this. Ptsd patron pre BLEDSOE. When it seemed like they were GONNA move every year. They fucked up everything and now. I feel like we're heading back there to that place. Where and wait so it's is done. Wow we haven't had a good draft. We haven't had a good draft since two thousand fourteen. This team's not going to be good next year. So the two of thing I it's like what what even the point out. Just more fun than that is more fun than Jay. Janus jeered still. This is not fun Cam. Newton Fun Jameis Winston. Not Fun on also. Jalen Jalen hurts as well. I'm very intrigued by jalen hurts. Jay Leno Oh wow nice I like this year. We made nine Super Bowl that we won six in twenty years. It's ever happening again. We had our what era What are you don't hope Come out of draft night with a quarterback. That's not eat central to you. You who melkite brands you taking Zach. Bon A white linebacker from Wisconsin is perfect. Fit Right Chris. Can I tell you where I'm at with to Please I'm deep down. Hoping he falls to twenty three okay. I do think there's a lot of medical questions and everyone's doing this on zoom. Nobody's been able to actually work them out and there may be a chance like all right maybe he just starts falling i. It's select the thir thirteen fourteen range. I'd start to. Get excited. You know. I always complain about the group thing. That goes along with drafts Li. I tweeted about this last night. The all these. Nfl analyst changing their tune on the kid from Oregon is embarrassing to me. Like Bro you spent the last month telling me that this guy ain't that good and you're not that high on him and there's there's there's a burrow into a and then a drop off and they all get word that all these teams at the top like him that he might go in the top five and so now they. They're all talking up. Justin harbored. GimMe a break. What do I hear? This satis satisfy conversation. I've had in the last three weeks about sports. I'm talking about dad the other day and I'm telling him I think there's a chance they're gonNA play the NBA this season and maybe have twelve. Playoff teams not sixteen may be four four buys for the top four. Maybe just a playoff teams. I'm laying it all out from. There's a pause. My Dad goes. Does that MEAN OUR MEMPHIS team Memphis pick could be the lottery. I'm like my dad. That shit assailed that picks doc and end up in the lottery. No matter what playoff system they have. He's so heartbroken. Pick turned into a top five pick. He can't get over it. So Larry is that. That's what you say because as you are laying that out. I'm like Oh F- that that's their way so that they can justify the fine. We'RE NOT GOING TO MEMPHIS instead of Zay on. We can't figure out a way to get in there so we're just going to cut it off at six so we don't have to deal with it. Oh F- that yeah. No no no start preparing. Now start preparing. Mostly no they're gonNA cut it off as team playoffs. That's terrible well it it does a couple of things the other thing it does is if. Katie and career. Ready to come back all the set in Brooklyn as the seven seed. That actually has these two guys that could play and ruined everything. You don't want that either. Yeah you don't want that either so I think you either do eighteen or twelve. Kfc What do you think eighteen twelve? So I mean I've heard like look everything's Spin. Turn around you know would playoff playoff playing tournaments but would this theoretical six team in each conference playoff system. You would still have a plan right to determine some of these final seeds. So I guess Brooklyn's could still get in men's could still get in. What do you make a plan? I thought it was GONNA be twelve teams. The top two seeds in each conference. Don't plan round one. And he fired his six four. I think you do three verse. Six four verse five. We don't there's no games you cut it off right now. What the standard right now. Rageh regular season's done. That's that's not happening. What's funny though is that they'll keep our money. Though this whole time there's GonNa be no regular season refund for the season ticket holders. They'll do that like at the tail end but teams teams. Do WanNa get to that seventy mark. I mean they're not going to get the seventy but maybe if you do have the like of you have some type of playing tournament that count toward counts towards regular season revenue. That could be used to determine the playoff seeds. Though I mean it could get funky. I'd inside so you see them. Cutting off twelve teams. Yeah top sixty did SO DALLAS MEMPHIS ARE OUT? That is out. Oh Yeah No Luca. No Job Mirant. Great just don't see it. I think you're GonNa see those guys play again. I hope I surprise. Bills Games being played. I think you're gonna see those guys playing. I hope have by the way. Can we talk about trades? That people wouldn't have done if they knew. A massive pandemic was coming three weeks later. You gotTA start with Miami for Andre. With dollar right. They gave up justice winslow and they do this whole move to load up and then what two and a half weeks later. This season's over two and a half weeks later. Feeling good about that trade Chris Manda I mean the fact that they got anything for Andrea Goodell is unbelievable after the way that all played out that was crazy was crazy the way that all played out and then the other one that's nuts now is the is the Wiggins Russell trade where gold say has a top three protected. Two Thousand Twenty one pick for Minnesota. I would say that's a top five team. I WOULD WANNA top five unprotected. Pick from top three. I'm telling you that was a great trade agree the most important question so since you brought up the fact that the pandemic hit and all these NBA players you know. Would you go back and make different moves. Whatever who is going to come back the most out of shape this is almost like a lockout scenario. You'd spend a LOTTA DOUBT TALKING ABOUT SEAN. Camp. He is the famous had. Lockout came back. Oh my God what happened here right. Inevitably like a lot of these guys. I talked to a couple of players yesterday. I'm not kidding you. They went to frigging Dicks to buy a basketball goals for their house. They don't a basketball. They don't even have goals at their house much less. I mean they're running around. I know I'm with. You never consider it right like if you're Jason Tatum. Why would you ever basketball hoop anytime? You WanNa play basketball. You just go to the practice right. So they so. These guys are underrated. Fat Lockout Guy Was Antoine Walker. Because he came back he had signed a Max Contract. He was like twenty two years old. All of a sudden is seventy one million dollar with nothing with them. I personally liked him but the Boston fans it was a little iffy with him and he shows up and he's good fifteen pounds heavier than he was the season before. And I remember my Dad. Like what the how what's he been doing? There will definitely be at least a couple of guys like that. I do think it's easier to stay in shape in two thousand twenty the maybe it was in nineteen ninety nine. 'cause you do give by fucking Peleton or do you know. There's things you can do at home. Would we agree? There is a reasonable chance Zionist. Three eighty when he comes back already three. Oh five to two guys. I'm most worried about her. Zion and bead beads. Another one that I feel I can beat spin on the fringe for awhile And I do. I do worry about whether you'd look. I put my favorite part of this. Is Chris Really? Wants Zion not to work out like he. He'll never say public but at the job the job reds I it's like back three real crispy walking around his house like I love watching Zay on but we need to find out if he stayed in New Orleans because there's no way if he stayed in New Orleans that he you can't I mean I I go for their for a weekend. I gained sixteen pounds. There'll be therapy one center. The centers have the trouble one like just coming back from your Yokich. Got Poor Yogesh. Yokich is any chance that he has gotten on a treadmill or a by or run around the neighborhood or no way. There is no way with if you told you. If you're not making him hell he doesn't WanNa run during the Games. He wasn't in shape for the first. Two months of this is in in really. Have a pandemic yeah. I don't know the want one like serious note on this topic though it's like there is a legitimate concern for player conditioning. What's happening midseason? And I wonder will there be any guys for being who were going to say. I'm not gonNA play well. Anybody just sit out entirely Andrea. Who's Out Yeah J. O? One more one more out of shape guy possibility. Luca's gotta be on the list right. Luke has been like he was borderline for the last couple of years. He was my first pick in the NBA DESKTOP BMI drafts. So No no now unfulfilled promise. Because of a pandemic would've ever there will inevitably be some of these guys that are. I hate to say that but are not the same after this and there is great risk of injury because being inactive for this amount of time you know what I mean like I. It just anybody. You can't go from being inactive and I don't know how many of these guys are staying. You know mega active. Certainly nothing like what it takes to be an NBA shape. It's tough embiid anxiety. I think would be my top draft picks bill. Thanks for coming on with US TODAY. Man. It's been great to see you guys. KFC your beard. Looks Fantastic Chris? I'm glad you're well you really. I mean look at that thing. It is really filled in. Looks like a civil war general at that stage right now. I'm GonNa win ago Kevin. I know he's the Buzzer bust. His ass look at is yeah. He's I acted later. You're dominating him in the beard game well a two year I heard. Yeah I started in December and he's also like following all these. You don't know this. But he's following all these guys on instagram. He's putting like exotic oils in it and shit no true hymns what happened. Here's what happened. I thought true. What did happen was I mentioned a beard video that I watch on Youtube trimmed beard. Or whatever and someone someone who owns that beard brand listens to this show. Hey the guy you mentioned the fifty five year old attractive dude with the beard but looks like a normal without the beard works for us and sent a couple of oils and the shampoo. So that's not exotic stuff. It's just normal. Like Shampoo type of products keeps it soft man? Do you have Special Shampoo Bill? This is unbelievable when is the KFC spear getting an Instagram or twitter? Crazy fan right. That's great I'm all in on that Bobby for producing as always thanks. Bill Kevin. I'll talk to you on Friday occupied icus. Thanks for listening another episode of the mismatch. We'll talk to you on Friday.

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"Sirius x._m. Forts raises with steve <music> becoming interviews this steve. It's very good tuesday. Race fans sirius x._m. To one sports on nights sixty four listening to siriusxm i'm online and on our website as well bick dot com and absolutely gorgeous great day to go to the fair. Did you go yesterday on your dark day. I've got i've got your day planned out for you. You're gonna you're listening to this. Show for three hours and then you can go to the fair until i don't know about five thirty then you're gonna go back to saratoga and you're gonna go to the museum because tonight night the debut the screening as it were born to rain the documentary you mentioned. We talked to jody lamp. You'll recall derby week derby week and it it was kind of quick and i wanted to get a visit in with her. Then and we gave you just the top line about the movie. The documentary that chronicles marian jack van berg and john neighbor route and actually more it pretty much nebraska centric and the american heartland the origins the the fountainhead of horsemanship that kind of a theme and every buddy that has seen it as just raved raved about it and tonight. You've got a kind of a meet and greet five thirty to six fifteen with jodie and <hes> co-producer melody dobson and then the screening of born to rain and you you should really if you're in town this strategy week. There is the draw and i know that you know it somewhat conflicts withdraw but you need. You need an invitation to the draw. I mean so if you don't have an invitation to the draw. Here's something that you don't need an invite invite for you. Just need ten dollars. That's ten dollars gets you add and it should be really really fun and there's about there's a capacity. I checked with brian. Ya this morning and we're gonna talk to jodi. We're going to talk to her in about twenty minutes but <hes> <hes> we'll give you more details but there's probably room for another three dozen people or so they've got the advance sale of seventy five eighty tickets it gets and the the theater holds about one hundred and twenty so there's room probably for another busy probably room for forty people so you don't be concerned about getting turned away. I imagine there's room for everybody at the museum today and so dark day saratoga perfect opportunity travers week if you've never been to the hall you can tour the hall at the same time earlier. You know beforehand part of the movie also it. It's really been the thanks jennifer kelly. It's been the the summer of sir barton and sir barton is actually celebrated as well because part of his post racing career. He served time in nebraska as a stallion and for the the u._s. Army at their at their stallion service station which was in crawford fort robinson so sir barton who who's been celebrated not stop thanks jennifer between her book and the hundredth anniversary three of of his triple crown and part of this as well but john narrowed and the van berg's marian and jack interviews in the film with d wayne lukas and carl nascar bill motte and of course worked for van burg gary stevens pass day featured as well baffert featured ah it the general john's son who of course a at his own successful training career before he just kind of i walked away and kind of a free spirit and unique individual so born terrain tonight this late this afternoon into the evening running at the hall. We'll talk to jodi after the first break this morning. We're going to check in with a couple with a regular reports dick powell this hour do a little preska will also get some saratoga update from dick john white this this morning catch up with john for the first time in three weeks and john doing his summer steward gig bill downs later as well from indiana catch up with indiana. We missed while we're out. We missed a an indiana report. We gotta catch up with bill andy stirling top of our three and then through the magic of digital transmission the jack whitaker interview from i'm not even sure went and frankly i. I couldn't figure that out usually put the date on the on the best of page. It's usually on there but it's at least four or five years ago and if you haven't heard it. I think you'll enjoy it. We did have remember we. I think we lost him. At some point we lost them for a minute or two and had to call him back but i think i think people will appreciate and enjoy hearing jack whitaker and the voice even at age ninety and beyond just you know so cogent and distinct and tributes really kinda. Yesterday i caught up. I was in the waiting room at the had the eye exam yesterday had the the update with the high surgeon urgent retina associates down in albany doctor falk and greenberg and so i have quite a bit of time they put drops in and then they they look at one thing then they send you out to the waiting room then they come back in so it was about a two and a half hour process i i was reading quite a bit and just absolutely beautiful tributes to to jack whitaker and from so many different sports arenas golf in particular and horseracing in a really were the two as many things as he did and he and countless and it also forgotten and i guess it technically predates you know my own personal awareness but <hes> you know part of his ascendancy in into the sports side came we came from the news division and of course that that hotbed of c._b._s. News in the fifties and even even and coming out of the war with murrow and then everybody associated with that with that hotbed of of talent and then onto the sports side but had called the jani said johnny anybody philadelphia. We'll tell you anybody buddy with a certain age association with the eagles and then the golfing golf and voice racing at forgotten he actually was was involved in two in the both of the eighties eighty four and eighty eight olympic telecasts as well but just so special so i. I think you're gonna enjoy it so the last half hour jack whitaker this morning <hes> joins us. I do it but i i will tell you a. I'll give you the update on the before before. Jody joins us since i mentioned the i think people are so nice. I gotten so many nice notes and things the good news on the it's healing absolutely in every which way they're very happy with the way the i is is healing. They say it looks terrific and once this bubble. This bubble is about still about sixty percent of the gas bubble in there is dissipates. I'll start to get some vision and i can just start to i was making out shapes and colors <hes> ah just starting on the edges the periphery of starting to be able to see things a little clearly a little bit more clearly and so it's going to be what after for another five weeks by breeders cup. I should be whatever whatever it's going to be in there. It's going to be but every time i this is the third visit since the surgery and every time you visit there's some revelation that they didn't tell you before the previous visits oh well you know you had so and so it's like meaning what well it could have been and touching go. It's like oh my god. I don't even wanna hear this so the best part was they say to me. Oh oh you you shouldn't have taken off your your emergency your warning bracelet. I said what what warning bracelet oh the green the green the green risley the medical alert bracelet. Oh you should have taken it off. I said i i never had it on. So what what do you mean the green alert bracelet. Oh from the hospital from surgery. No no no one ever put a green warning bracelet on me. I said what's it for. Oh well it. It's a medical alert that if if something happens to you if you were to pass out that a warning that you have a gas bubble in your eye and that they can't give nitrous oxide because it would blind you did it's three weeks i so you're telling me that for some reason had i passed out and they rushed me to the hospital hospital. I needed some emergency surgery. They wouldn't have been aware that i had this gas bubble in my eye they would have given me nitrous oxide and it would have blinded me. If whatever i was being service for hadn't killed me. You gotta be kidding me so so now three weeks into this fiasco i've got i've got this medical alert bracelet and it's not one of those nice silver chain link ones one of was nice sterling silver. No it's green green neon. It's actually the color of ourselves. The the warning gas bubble in can i results in blindness. It's like you gotta be kidding me. Nobody you didn't notice that. I wasn't wearing this ten days ago or the morning after the surgery so they slapped this thing on me like <hes> oh. You can't leave without that okay. It's been quite an experience. That's that's all. I'll tell you all all right on to the the exciting news around the track. I tonight at the adelphi hotel right now. It looks like a field. The twelve and bob baffert never met a traverse didn't like muccio gustavo asto with a fifty nine and to workout yesterday that put him on on the plane and there's a plane today and muccio cousteau is coming to the travers and joe talamo is gonna ride so right. Now we've got twelve does not look like does not look like we're getting spinoff unless there's a late development but yesterday the dave greenwich peace with help from j. proven in a reporting mu-chou gustavo's entry into the field did not include spin off so and i'm sure that i'm sure that dave had touch base with todd pletcher and the rest of this group that will make up for a dozen jess chief. Uh for dallas stuart. Mike smith is ending up with the call. This is alphabetical no preference code of honor as we know and i wouldn't categorize shug as a trash talker but shook seems very happy with where code of honor is johnny johnny ecorse coming back from del mar where he won three on sunday endorsed joel rosario and by the way joel rosario now on twitter and he is a a good sport and is funny and you can have fun with joel. I got the it's. I think it's i think what we do j. Rosario correo jared jockey check in a minute karen maguire course with endorsed ever fast and dale romance and martin sean the peruvian wonder kin. I suppose if you're gonna use under what's thunder candan and in spanish look that up martin john twenty four year old peruvian jack races south america and jake romans has got his book. He's been writing for dale and he's having been analyses would fine. He you know he'd been come into the u._s. Every so often drawn people are wondering oh who is this. This is the guy that's one thousand races. He's not a bug boy. I honors i for chad and louis sayas laughing fox of course ricardo santana junior. We talked to steve espersen yesterday. The other chad looking at bikinis as with heavy air castellano looking for i don't know seventeenth travers went <hes> skills was he wants one five six. The gustavo joe talamo bob baffert ad says as pressure oh and dale for orange ru for brad cox scars are cool stanley off tyler gap leone tacitus jose ortiz for bill mata course horse and danny gardens out tax. I think we're going to talk to fact. I know we're gonna talk to randy hill. On thursday randy's god god he's got orson. I think four of the stakes on saturday but what what a year and summer for for randy iran ortiz for danny goggin so there's your field well pretty good even without those headliners everybody was hoping for this is fine. This is a fun race geico to see how they line up and see if contributes to the pace scenario or out of the gate with alacrity showed a lamp to talk about born to rain screaming tonight on spooling at all back after this apple races with feedback on sirius x._m. 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Summit must be eighteen or older in twenty one states token cavalry stressed about and reside in the state where such activities legal void where prohibited national gaming support line eight hundred five hundred forty seven hundred breaking the biggest stories warmers at with scheme it in yeah mm-hmm back coming up on twenty into our one on this wednesday latigo with hot topic and the topic around saratoga gotta be the screening of born to rain tonight eight at the hall and yet so this is something i've talked to bryan about. I love the concept and the dark days are great for this and and there's really quite a few things over the last several years that would be ideal to do a screening and have a conversation and a one movie that i've not seen that i hear is just tremendous is last is train to bay meadows that chronicled the end of of bay meadows and and i hear i heard great things about at the time and we've tried. We've we talk. I'm gonna forget the the writer producer director etc that put it together and we we reached him and we were trying to get him to come to saratoga. Oh good to do the same kind of thing so this is a great concept and if you're around tonight <hes> late this afternoon the meet-and-greet and then the screening and and <hes> both melody dopson and jodi lamp the are with us jodi gamal the saratoga how you doing regular i'm great thank you so much we talked derby and we got in a a kind of some top line information about the film and you've really spent the late spring into the summer promoting and and putting the finishing touches coaches and everybody that has seen it has really been moved by and of course the van berg's and john neighborhood and even sir barton gets <hes> some time since we talked in may tell us about how things have gone well steve. It's been very exciting. We have premiered film in nebraska where john marion bamberg and gac bamberg were all from so we we wanted to tell those native nebraska's about their citizens sons in what they accomplished on national and international scene and then dan on june eleven we had a premier in douglas wyoming where sir barton is buried so they were so excited excited that someone had taken some interest in promoting some of their history and we talked to them we had about a eight hundred fifty people show up for that premiere but we've just been traveling across the state of nebraska and then reaching out to some other areas. We're going to be showing the film after after this here in saratoga springs at in some other states. We're going to be making some announcements but to be back here. In saratoga springs where johnny rude won the nineteen fifty seven travers stakes with gallant man. Wow oh what an honor and we've been. We've been so excited to just have the opportunity to come back and all the time that we spent in nebraska with john's family and the family and just the communities are going. Wow what a story what a what an amazing untold story and to bring that in now <hes> they're excited for us to be back here in saratoga so <hes> thanks so much for being such a great support to be not at all explain to everybody because even the origins of the interest in the story a to me is is worth noting which is the historic project the the origins back in nebraska that even you know sussed out the story line bringing us bring us back to that while it even goes further further than that it goes back to montana when jodi was working in her office in billings montana. That's where i met and then she she and her family moved back to mitchell nebraska. I scottsbluff but <hes> in two thousand nine she discovered the material that <hes> horses from sir barton were selling in the sales ring at the billings livestock commission so research for the whole entire film started back in two thousand nine but at the same time you might say it started a lifetime lifetime ago because johnny rudini are from the same hometown miniature nebraska and actually graduated from the same high school just <hes> i say a mere fifty six years apart but <hes> we we knew that in two thousand nineteen if we didn't come out with this story it would be for not we wanted to do you something that commemorated the one hundred year anniversary of the triple crown and when you look at johnny rude marion and jack bamberg are there they kind of have their own triple crown stories <hes> spending taylor who we interviewed in the film he works with the new york racing association russian he he clocked dr fager so when we got to interview him in in long island he was such a gentleman but they talked about johnny rude and mary ann and jack bamber like royalty and sadly they're really not you know not saying so much. The bamberg bergh's same. They came around a little later and were more well known at the track in in omaha serban but jon gruden really is not known in the home state where he was born and raised and we wanted to do something that not only commemorated sir barton time in nebraska with with the u._s. Army remount service station at fort robinson which is right near the area where john was raised but we wanted to take time in honor these three gentlemen coincidentally they all came from nebraska so that made it nice but they were every time that we ask someone if they would stop and visit with us you know when we talk to you steve during the <hes> during the derby all we had to say to bob baffert d wayne lukas philmont gary stevens pat day carl nascar is that we're doing a documentary film about johnny rude marion bamberg jack bamberg and they stopped and took times during probably one of the busiest weeks of their life. You know it's it's a little crazy on the back side during derby week there but we were really enjoying our time here in saratoga and cannot wait to premiere it in front of some of these hall of fame trainers tonight it'll be it'll be well received and you talk about some of the people involved and i i didn't realize that sonny sonny was involved at the tape the segment with him <hes> you should ask him when he clocked hindu <hes> this just kidding just kidding. He's he's been. He's been around. He's he's been around. Almost that long carl nascar course were you know worked one of the things that we talk about so often with key within wilkes carl is that that heritage that that that comes from <hes> john <hes> for those that have seen the trailer <hes> you were able to also spend time with the johnson jan jan very mercurial and and a and a unique <hes> spirit in his own right and so a lot of people people in the industry i would say the last couple of generations around the industry have really not heard much from jan so having him in there as well. There's just there's so much to this. <hes> it oh and and with the passing of course of jack we we spent a lot of time and <hes> <hes> between tom and all the various people that worked <hes> for van burg frankie brothers and there's his niece. There's these trainer trees. <hes> you know the branches of so many people not just not just exclusively to trainers leaners either. I mean the riders wayne. Catalano catalano is life a the catalano brothers. Their life was changed by jack van berg and yeah the direction of their lives. I mean the influence. The influence will go on as long as there's racing absolutely and that's one thing we wanted to do with the film is to show the history of thoroughbred horseracing and show how important the the even the backside and and the if you are american doorstop project our mission is to tell the untold and forgotten stories of american agriculture history there is a wrought of agriculture on the backside of any race track in america and you think about all the jobs that <hes> that marianne and jack and john ah help create and sustain by being successful so you know at the end of the day we say this is an american success story free. This gentleman came from really a the ordinary. If you want to say that they were not born and and raise on thoroughbred horse farms they they came from the ground up and it was their work ethic that bachmann into the top and that's what the home is really about when you when you boil it down even if they weren't from nebraska even if they didn't didn't have that in common this is an american success story and it really puts a spotlight on the entire industry humble beginnings just really show what they how they were committed to horsemanship the true value values of course mitch and that's been a delight to portray in the in the film as well and i'm sure people will see when they when they get to to view the film that the you know the last thing influence a on on every referenced riders and trainers but <hes> from the breeding side of things what what what rooted neighborhood achieved and again you can even go even wider and i i don't know if you touch on it but you know john's interest in the the surface in racing acing surfaces and his development of <unk> tartan turf and his interest then in a synthetic you know the potential for a synthetic surface whether for for training or for racing and of course his ties with tartan and with you know with mr mcknight and the opportunity to work with three m. to develop up a synthetic surface. I mean th there's no area of the industry. <hes> you know i know you you get to <hes> the founding of the breeders cup and and and what he and john gains did together when they created the top and you know john wanted to run the marketing side which he felt was going to be you know absolutely louis instrumental in the success of the cup. There's there's really no area of the industry that john nehru did not have a just comprehensive we had seven and lasting impact on absolutely and even the backside <hes> i think a health health program cam for for the workers you know when you think about the time when when gallant man was running here's john standing to sunny fitzsimmons and and and unbridled stood stud at claiborne farm you know and you so yes john on touch many lives and and is responsible for some of the breeding you know that influences that we see today still on the track when you when you look at american pharaoh unjustified they both have lineages that go back to tartan farm now <hes> john neighborhood was lucky enough to really both john and <hes> jack lucky enough to have them both on the show many times times and the conversations with nehru were always. We're we're particularly particularly fun and funny because because what what basically amounted to an institutional memory for the sport and you could you could bring up any you know any topic and he had he had experienced <hes> you know some tied to it in one shape or another and in fact back in new york this one all i always got the biggest kick out of it <hes> in new york when they tried to have the detention barn where ah you'd have to bring your horse four hours before race time and basically a controlled environment a supervised environment and when when they came up with the concept had john in close proximity to the announcement and and i said john in terms of trying to impede cheating will the barn can work and he said won't make any difference. I said well how do you know because we tried it. In one thousand nine hundred eighty six at bowie you gotta be kidding me it is that i got a i'll never forget that you know we tried it but didn't make a difference delightful pull about this whole film. Here's this gentleman who is who his lifetime is an american story. He lived through so many things he was a veteran. He he saw things and he i think from all that experience we're able to see is that he could almost see into the future and he could he could <hes> share narrative that so many of these people needed to hear needed to see and so i think that allowed him to be able going so many directions at allowed him to create this level of success well and and they they have that in common both both nee route and van burg berg. Jack had the vision and in fact. I can remember jack chiding me because i didn't. I didn't properly early acknowledged that it was actually him not wayne lukas that had the first national operation jack van berg was so far ahead of the curve when it came to creating the satellite barnes and creating a program where the assistance you know would would basically the essence jack on the ground and you know he tirelessly was was visiting each installation but jack van berg was this way ahead of the curve on that front. Oh absolutely we heard we heard that over and over again. You know the first mobile trainer and it it was so funny and what we'd like people to know to. We tried so hard to get jack before he passed away. The tiny was just not working out and right and and and right before we were scheduled to go seeing him in november of two thousand seventeen we got a call from his daughter and said dad in the hospital so we were we were already committed to come to churchill down on churchill downs during was actually breeders cup weekend when we started filmed in two thousand seventeen. Luckily tom was already there on the back side and we were able to capture his story. His is just true feelings about his father before he passed away you know and and and then he passed away <hes> about a month a a month later it was funny the last time we talked to jack on the phone i said jack. How will we find those well. You got my number. Give me a call and i said well. How will we get on the backside of churchill downs. Jackie is just comes through the gate as okay well. We're not jack bamberg. We're we're jody and melody. You know we'll tell them you said so jack. I'm sure they'll just let us in but it was he he was <hes> you know all business when we talked him on the phone to i i hope at the end of the day to the families are honored that what we what we did to feature there you know we're not grandstanding anyone or or anything about ourselves but we certainly certainly want to honor these gentlemen who made such an impact in a different than other people live well this from the the from the first moment that we heard about it. We knew it was going to be something to look forward to and for those that are in the area and you know by. I my being knocked out for two weeks. <hes> prevented giving more advanced notice for everybody but if you are in and around saratoga toga as many of you listening are or if you're on your way and you're going to be in for travers week <hes> tonight the opportunity to spend time meet jody and melody -ality five thirty to six fifteen <hes> kind of a meet and greet reception and then <hes> six thirty in the hall of fame gallery the unsettling of born to rain and the opportunity <hes> still remains for i think i'm going to guess the twenty thirty we'll call it about probably about thirty five to forty seats remain <hes> there's a seventy five or eighty seventy five or eighty already sold and and the gallery holds about one hundred and twenty so it shouldn't be a problem for those of you that haven't made arrangements yet to come to the hall and meet the jody and melody and take in <hes> this this real project that <hes> a lot of love went it into and i can't wait to see it myself and melody jody congratulations. We're so glad you're here and it should be a lot of fun tonight. Well thank you so much. We appreciate everyone's support all of our partners sponsors back in nebraska and certainly some of the hall of fame trainers that we've been working with two we. We couldn't say enough great things about them. It's just spin an honor and privilege to be this far and and to be back in saratoga springs me. We've gotten a lot of great publicity including yourself and we just really appreciate everyone's interest in support. Let me ask you to for for the for those that obviously are in the area. When and how are they going to be able to see down the road well. There's going to be several opportunities. We've been asset. It's not out on d._v._d. Yet but what we are doing is pre selling those at our screaming we have been accepted and and selected for the louisville international film festival so anyone in the louisville kentucky area. Yeah please come to the mohammed ali center on october eleventh. I think the film screens at twelve thirty one p._m. And so that's been really fun to be accepted to film festivals and so your films can't how you know how that goes we can't have it out on indymedia already to be in a film about civil but we are pre selling so that when we put that first order in we can we can have you know a bulk order ready for everyone and have something fun under your christmas tree our and your christmas shopping and i'll keep abreast of where where we're gonna be with the film at our website at warned arain rain dot com and we have quite a few places in the works that stands on tonight <hes> we're selling tickets at the door but you can go onto the brent event bright ticket system lincoln put inborn terrain or grow to the national museum website and look on their calendar and click on the born terrain link there on and today august twentieth so i'll put i'll put a link on on twitter right now as well. Thank you so much steve well. I can't thank you guys enough for being here born to rain tonight five thirty at the hall and meet the melody and jodi and look forward forward to being entertained whether you're intimately familiar with the van burg story and jon gruden sir barton whether uh it's news to you and going to be a completely new experience <hes> it's going to be well worth attending <hes> if you're in town i appreciate it melody and jodi. We'll see you soon and we'll take a timeout here. We'll come thanks so much we'll come right back because <hes> dick powell's gonna join plainest john white and a little bit as well bill downs andy serwer and jack whitaker back after this increasing the athletes with steve vic on sirius x._m. Radio all right to carry the four plus days ace got denton twenty six thousand eight hundred seventy six. What's that x. How many racist you could bet last summer. Unexpressed bet haven't signed up for an account cowgill. What are you waiting for on top. 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Education classes are taught by industry experts in state of the art facilities located in the heartland of america's equine industry the university of global equine business program when it comes to horses we mean business for more information visit business dot louisville dot e._d._u. Slash equine in the world of horse racing. This is the reasons with knee bic on zero them redo games back of the races his fifteenth at the top of the hour catching up with dick powell do a little press kyle and of course the satin xanten lace they ran monday and the prep traditional prep for the masters later on great leading for the breeders cup filly mayor sprint but we'll hit on a bunch of topics with dick as joins us <hes> good morning extinct welcome back. Thank you thank you happy to be back <hes> before we we hit on presque isle. Let me get let me get a couple of saratoga the thoughts from you. Since we spoke last i think when we spoke last my handicap and had gone southam has gone even service. No nothing nothing nothing changed. It's either i over handicap. I handicap. I try everything follow the races. You know it's not like i'm not paying the pension but it's not converting these there two weeks ago ten days and days. Excuse me it was interesting to that is the sense that there's something that that's interfering is sir. We we had a nice sorry weeks with three plus weeks without any thing off the turf. We had a good run on adron. It's decision making it's not gamba captain. I you know i get down to two horses with the wrong coupon. As long as it's the it's it's all i looked at handicap and as a battle between me and i don't blame jockeys trainers. I don't think like that if i didn't if horse one item have like questioned why didn't have it and <hes> i've been questioned. It's an awful lot. You know what's interesting about a a a meat like this for for years. When we had the six weeks there was always the you know the early the middle and the late and there was a <hes>. I suppose a much more defined flow to the meat. I mean this has been. I you know i think it's been a good meat. <hes> <hes> the the racing the racing has been eclectic <hes>. There's there's people say oh. It's not like saratoga vold. I i okay whatever the for those for those that are miffed by lower level claiming races and such that to me is offset by competitive competitive events. I mean if you've got whatever sixteen non jews and and so forth if it's a big field and it's competitive hinault. There's opportunity i i. I'm not as concerned that every race is supposed to be a steak or a you know a special or a high level allowance. I that's it's never that's never been a priority to me. I mean as long as the racing is is good and i think thank for me. It's it's <hes> i. I'm looking for something to grab onto and it's like every day every day they want. No i get ya get ya well. We'll wish you luck to you got a little bit of time left and we got the new york bred card on on friday which is always entertaining and we'll talk to andy about it <hes> our three and of course <hes> they'll draw the drivers tonight and then tomorrow the rest of what should be a a spectacular card and we touched on a couple of the highlights and some of the stars certainly with steve oscarsson. Who's who's loaded the the the performances then deck. What have you taken away a man. Who's who's impressed you and you know what part of that the can you impart. It's it's you know that's that's the problem with living here and experiencing it on a daily basis then it becomes a blur and and i'm <hes> you know i'm focused on my last race should not looking back on <hes> big events and stuff but the right direction terrific amendments thank competitive <hes> we still see some odd decisions and the stewards vote but we should be used to that by now and and <hes> you know i love the two year old and i love the person on start is. I'm is smuggled at <hes> some of that they it'd be worse. Was i've been very strong. I know the other day todd absolutely loved his horse so he was he was drawn inside. I don't remember the name of i don't know todd cult that he was very very high on and cost him run well at all and chad had one he had five and a half furlong turfs. I making its debut for class that she went off three to one. I remember this 'cause. I can't remember the name and he starts in between green. Horses looked really good 'cause when he's kinda. Deter sprints are difficult in the sense that it's all up if your stock and and if you're sitting third or fourth you really you don't have much of a chance to win. You're out there wing and in the beginning all you're coming from off the pace behind horses forces in out that winging the med pack horses have a real difficult time because there's no breather in the race. You've gone and you try to hold on or you. Take back and make the big run and <hes>. I thought chad source. I it wasn't that he was overcoming buys but he he ran a trip that you don't see a successful very often so to me. It's like find looked at the damage could powder better but it's a couple of weeks ago and i know i know chad was very high in the horse and he delivered. I think he'll be just a terrific two year old. I don't know if they'll go to canada for the great one up there but you know just right something that jack races have been very good. Castellano continues to get a lot of business and chad <hes> you know when we have great alvarado cooled off a little bit but he's had a good made him obviously not spartans dominating once again chad's you know just killing it in the train of race and nice to see clermont combat because i i miss attract us and there was a couple years clermont was top five live then he had a couple of years they fell out of the top five with only three four winners and now he's backing and they made it. They will cross outfits. We always think think of him as a distance trainer and yet you look up the number of turf sprint wednesay has fantastic and so it's accelerator sprints. Thank you know he can train all wants to go long obviously but he just does great so he's had a turn for me to angle hearts out of terrific me and orlando noda yeah. Yes third one the other day gary sacco's gary has won a couple of now. He's got both paid well and <hes> the one <hes> what are the concrete rose is going to be out the rest of the year. I mentioned it yesterday yeah. She's got a little hairline fracture and that brings up a topic. You and i talk about it and that's of course has been hard and you know that that is the kind of concerns via when you hear this kind of thing you know phil. I don't know if you've heard phil d'amato yesterday. Phil had a funny line saying about how was it phil yesterday. A day or or <hes> sadler might have been sadler meant. Yeah was sadler because <hes> we were talking about higher powers win and he said it's it's kind of a flip the flips cryptic where it's slow and heavy at del mar car and it's fast and slick here which is the complete opposite of the way it used to be you you can see we can see that a lot of cushion track that they're they're at least a third races noticeably flour our assets. I don't cut stellar somebody from the outside <hes> divorce off like three to five and <hes>. That's a toss crime on the outside. You know that you just don't see those sources when i out if that was the only that was that was yeah that was what a shame i can't remember the culture so but no there there's a tremendous to grab it at a chance this kept communist comm- incumbent and then even in deep stretch looks like it's a big fan of comedy common that was i was noticeably impossible so but the turf you you know we talked about it before and they're gonna mile or one thirty two flat which i don't think anyone ever thought they would see up here and then tuesday the second race after the first race on sunday. I'm in my simple and i work out and they're rolling mellon course mike we we had rain for a couple of days. We had listen. It's good and they're they're rolling turf course and sure enough new track question one minute point two one and then to show wasn't a fluke another race couple of races where the one in one minute point four that's obviously very arrate firm ground and and wouldn't mind it if it hadn't been chewed up by twenty something days of turf racing but conduct that course i don't think is in the greatest shape so the two days off <hes> hopefully we'll do wonders for and got good soaking to the over an inch. I think in almost an inch and a half of rain the between between sunday and monday saturday sunday that we haven't yet the last rays on my the sound you know i would have had him last race on sunday. They're they're showing the sky. They're showing the radar and it's on the main track taken off the turf and tracks our it's not sealed and then lowered says on the plan and they hit the time the rain begins so now it's raining and you can't send attractive out immediately the horses craft pull up and come back and i'm like why wasn't as tracks you know so. I don't know there's a lot of things during the course of the day you scratch gretchen well. We look forward to putting the travers field together later tonight. That's at the adelphi correct. That's going to be tremendously because the travis is always like this. This travers is reminiscent of the one that read them one. You know big sale. I think i was fifteen. Horses and you know we've had wide open competitive travel. Get the superstar and even when arrogant the one that was wide open 'cause no arrogance arrogant at that point but this this year's renewal. I think that's going to be fantastic. Boy why is far so assemblyman sources and look at the ranking speed weddings whatever it is at that pretty tight and that's going to be a real challenge as hard as it was going to get the trip and who's going to get the model a quarter and i think i think it's gonna be great. I think the betting on it's going to be spectacular and the addition of muccio gustavo really helps because the one thing the one thing that wasn't a component was the pace scenario and that was part of. I think everybody's gonna be happier. <hes> that that there's a little little bit more pace to make up this this race because tacitus benefits <hes> looking at not looking at lea- we we talked about that laughing fox he needs a pace it having if you'd had maximum security and you were assured that there was going to be somebody winging and everybody else you know that that might have had an interest in being part of you know the front end they would be forced their hands would be four somewhat to be involved with maximum security waiting for the pennsylvania derby you no you ended up as one of those scenarios dick where you were going to say to yourself well. Where's the speed going to come from and that's that's always a a a bad place to start handicapping if you if you're going to have to just speculate right from the get-go as to who might get the lead or want the lead suddenly you're not on firm footing from handicapping standpoint definitely definitely it's going to be fun gonna be. It's gonna be a race that you could spend way too much time not looking at a submissive check another from this second and then with twelve runners. <hes> money should get spread out and it'd be i'm looking forward to what the permitting knock on wood. Oh looks gorgeous. It's supposed to be supposed to be seventy. Two and sunny could it be great can't beat that not outside so well. Let's talk about what's going on out near the <hes> they had some violent weather the other day actually and i think resulted in the lay but <hes> we missed we didn't get a chance to do an advance for the the satin and lace but certainly certainly the hotshot anna it has everything has everything wind up looking ahead toward the masters won this race last year and <hes> she carried carried on june twenty pounds last year she picked up five for the masses associated to carry one hundred twenty four. She sat third kehinde dueling leaders the outside door weaken so that opened up the hall so to go up and engage the front runner who is shanghai and he took off in the lady. The chart doesn't shelby actually opened up a bigger lead than it shows at the stretch mark and then <hes> spring and the wind rally very strongly for poetry racing above us junior but you robinson has a silly spectacular form. You got a nice turf sprint tighten her at home and only part ships and here it should be back for the past masters and then hopefully not the last year. We were all excited about her going onto the breeders cup totally mess fun <hes> she didn't and <hes> hopefully this year she will because she's only seems is capable and the race post massive has a great history crosstalk rediscovered spent so how china is very very good last night time turned out to be excellent. Costa pace was forty five point two one. That's that's great but i've seen capacitor but one on one four as a as a good solid last quarter twenty exchange and i think hot shana antonio we'll be very tough coming back in the masters wrote her both times last year and <hes> belt stake races and i'm sure he'll be back this year so the satin lace and that and that kinda gets focused on the stakes races which are gonna come up pretty frequently september ninth. We have the guy a mile that closes houses on august twenty eight. That's three year olds up two hundred thousand and also that the mouth on the roads for drugs and then the following on the sixteenth running undertake raises monday night press kyle masters the mock mcdermott an enemy mrs henry xbox and p._s. Breads and <hes> go close on september fourth so those races hopefully will come up strong you notice last night. We had a lot of scratches with thirteen enter. Them and i think people entered. It's not a big <hes> you know. There's only a couple of hundred dollars to pass the entry box so people wanted and the kind of pecan contributes and obviously hotshot was common so that might have scared off a few so it only had failed to seven despite thirteen <hes> showing up in the entry page which was a good solid pro. Nothing nothing not alike and i don to fly the sad fact that's bringing the wind came in from del mar and <hes> she made a nice rally to get up perception of lincoln's added him about history again the job on that one <hes> late night how did scratch and that would have been a nice match for hotshot on it because she's she's barbara fritschi charlestown. She's multiple the greatest place on it but they scratched her. <hes> we'll see <hes> hotshot anna and four weeks. Hopefully we'll see down the road in the brenda's. It's come now and very happy that <hes> you you robertson. <hes> had a little bit of a little bit of a health fish tale so we're happy for you to be back and you know helming the operation and <hes> we'll watch a just what the look see about a figure figures out out yet for this <hes>. We'll keep an eye out. <hes> this is a serious mare and been a fan for a while so trap shot out of the holy bull mayor avalos and ball bred her original can link sean anna nice. You mentioned you mentioned luke and bob has coming in getting the the placement and she was spring and the wind was almost five clear of shanghai tariff jimmy devito. You're kind interesting to note deck. One of the things we talk about you know the comings and goings at presque this field made up of horses who last ranted arlington del mar prairie meadows saratoga laurel and and and press kyle so a field of seven that came from six different venues no and that's that's healthy and shows the the confidence in the track that the the one negative about ship into into the lesser level tracks so to speak as to the track condition. What's what's going to be like if they're gonna incorrectly. Good points like that but that's not that's not ever factor shipping in the prescott <hes> the winner the winner was antonio guy auto last night and he is he's now twenty eight percent for the me where the virtually the same amount of rides as pablo morales house antonio now ninety eight wins morality alex such eighty three so morales who is a weiner. I the last one hundred thirty five. She's pretty far behind a ardo. Jerry brooks works coast continues to dominate training stanley. Ron pots moved up to second theresa connelly third. What's interesting when you look at the train and steve is you pick pick out. People like darien rodriguez fourteen for thirty nine thirty six percent and land stokes eleven thirty one thirty five percents at some high percentage people back here leland hayes nine for twenty nine and one guy that's warming up a little bit is not you can't sues now eight thirty at twenty seven percent. He hasn't had as many starters had last year but his stay was clicking and <hes> that's always fun fun to watch which what's hot and which ones haven't used up their conditions and still have good life forces for the rest of the meat but we aren't getting them. We're or wealth past the halfway point and <hes> getting to the thicket of spacey's so that'll be fun coming up sometime but i was nice preview last night well. Let's look ahead. What are we. What are we got tonight and everything this week anything you like some item. I'm gotta go pick three to end the card. Sex is six nash following the co-lead long sprints. I like number five save. The drama kevin writes clan wind. One of five moves it back up to aid <hes> that's that's. That's not a steep jump. <hes> he's a good five in other words. He's solid five and he could have easily stayed at five but you know right so it's going to take a shot. I like the fact that he drew outside against blankets off which is just a powerful horsemen traders were moved like usually wakes horses up <unk> out returns and i think he'll be tough the rates member sex so that's number five save the djerma and then seven. We're going six zero on these optional climates sixty two thousand five hundred number five t o perico was a tremendous. I wonder at this down so dominated the thirteen ten but i think he can come back here and the shows that kind of speed again. I think he'll be very very tough. Three to one morning wine the caught up like seattle. He's having a big career rides back for jason. The kosta and if you look at your personal is the one hundred seventy four six long lists is run at the need so far thirty four percent of them were one to wire that is a big edge too early speed and <hes> i on the podcast here perico can get right out during kids if he's not on leaning we'll get involved early pace and then we'll try to be alive to the last leg which is going to go six furlongs again and we're going to go with number five another for mareo this atta mars claim this one two three four lengths and it's i try against the against eight thousand climates now drops back the five thousand so that's been allowed them. A lotta looks perfectly spotted here with made vickers and we'll also use number seven morning line favorite nope alito from the aforementioned matthew can who was a good second last time out in the south of a series of good solid sprint what she went a little bit more but <hes> he'll certainly be a threat especially with class level so pick five five life five with five seven and i was always by my in my whole hard analysis tailable on pro-child downs dot com just click on racing pop up track handicapper dick's picks so i'll give you a little bit analysis some of one-two-three isis. I ideally really you're seeing. Are you seeing it a little better at eerie than than than at the spa yeah yeah 'cause i do it on a regular basis. I do it on deadline. <hes> i'm more. I'm not saying i'm more focused but you know with saratoga. It's it's it's it's tough the best way to place i would do well. You work early. Be flexible as far as tracking vessels. Listen you can't go to the track handicap and make the cable to many people. It's striking and <hes> so what press kyle. That's the case so i'm in the same boat all the time where i over here. I i get there. I can't get the kids the grandkids current kids to watch and different things like that and then when i go i'm all excited them. I'm not believing him john neighborhood. I think once the bed they track because anyone else that's definitely true in saratoga. That'd be nice to walk out with someone well. I'm and confident that <hes> between now and labor day the score is coming. I i will attest to the fact that not i've been housebound for the most part and i did get out a little saturday and a little bit on sunday but i i've had i've had a very good season and part of it is just that topic being able to not have to deal with you know the running around around i mean the the the from the stance that to the paddock running into people and talking and getting in line and or or getting a signalled if you're going to bet on your phone i gotta tell you from from that part of it and it actually john. I touched on this yesterday it from a from a perspective of of having had this illness illness but this this is donovan injury. Whatever the incident that i've had with this i and being basically laid up for three weeks it hasn't hey it's been hard to do the work in terms of writing things up i've only done the saturday cards but in terms of betting it actually <hes> and it's been good so i know exactly i know a lot of people know that so much of our of our play is now now in an isolated basis and and playing you know in in the quiet of of our own office or are bunker then when you have a season like this at keeneland at saratoga and so forth reverting reverting to live on track action is challenging. It's a it's a different challenge than than we're used to so i get especially people like that. You want in a lot of cases as you see people that you only see during the summer. <hes> you know that you see the track and that's a big part of that's part of the appeal to i mean i've for me got so well and i want to fold in since we're out in this region looking out to the west i wanna mention debbie breed another win yesterday for winstons chance the amazing six-year-old wins the genesee valley breeders yesterday at the flakes and <hes> unbelievable job with this source <hes> ninth win now and <hes> sometimes fish tails a little bit or you faces a little better quality <hes> visual come to saratoga you know ran third and the evan shipman then returns to finger lakes and wins again so she does a nice job. Winston chang powell everybody from here. You're next week. I hope so we'll see you for certainly be there travers <hes> saturday. Let's take a break. We'll come back. 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"Starving. Thank you for listening to the Star Burns Audio podcast network. We have so many great comedy shows to add to your playlist just last week on starbucks audio on Dumb Gay Politics Julian Brandy Talk to Senate candidate Charles Booker about his moving viral video, and how his plans unseat Mitch McConnell could actually be the thing that makes America the land of opportunity for everyone. This week on boogie Monster, cal Canadian Dave Stone talking comedy clips, cops and Barbecue on that black ash show, Celebrity Drag Queen Monique Heart joins, say Sloan to talk about being a black drag queen in Hollywood, and checking in on all things, black excellence search star Burns audio on apple podcasts, spotify or any podcast platform for a full list of our shows, featuring hosts like the scholar brothers, man, seals and Paula poundstone. Don't forget. Follow us on Instagram and twitter at starbucks audio. Now enjoy the show and remember stay safe. Stay healthy and keep laughing. It's all shit. It's all just I'm gay politics America's kind, but we're not gonNA. Let it go down like that. Because we got a down game podcast, dumb gay political podcast. We probably don't have all the facts, but we got opinions and we'll probably backtrack. That's too dumb. Gay podcasts a dumb political podcast. It's ocean. Social Die. Extreme I am! A this shit is button the. This shit is trump. T- argue. Eight. Th what. I don't know. I don't. Hello everybody, welcome to dumb gay pandemic politics I'm Julie and I'm brandy, and this is the podcast where we talk about the weekend. Corona virus politics like we're talking about reality TV. And what a corona virus week it was Mamiya it really really. You know what I mean. The cases are going up. The death seem to be going down some states like eighteen states or closing their non essential businesses again. And on your birthday, we got too drunk and offended some of the people on our Patriot podcast, because we joked around about how we suck it wearing masks, happy corona virus birthday. Thank you and thank you. Thank you all. Oh, isn't it weird having a birthday? I can say that I didn't have one member in January. Yeah, so it wasn't corona virus yet. Yeah, I think for those of us who are celebrating corona birthdays. It is very very very weird, very weird. You know you just need to take in, but I know that I. Just tried to take it in perspective, and you know whatever. But certainly, the piling on of Apparently offending people. You know was was challenging on your on your bidet on my birthday, but the good thing is, is that the Patriot on our friends? And our family and Patriot made you a big old card. Yes, than there was that which was like? Oh, like it was so thoughtful and Nice. It's like a big card that people put like they signed, and they put pictures on, and it's so sweet and so nice, and and we know that you and Goldie Goldie. Ton. Olson are basically within a week of each other. I mean I feel even more than just you know. All of the geriatric such ourselves celebrating birthdays. That's really more about the real. Right of actual birth. Birth Corona but only the ones that have to do with our podcast care about. You. Don't hear about your friend who doesn't listen who had a baby? Then? No, no, no, no, no, no, no but those of those little actual babies who've been given birth to. During Corona in it's amazing, so yes, to be within the same week of Little Goldie, is very nice in the fact that it's we're actually I have birdie and you birdie a- and it's weird. Their names are actually connected to our names in some way. That's right. You know what I mean. That's right. That's exactly what it is in your family. Go Up Gold Goldman. You know what I mean. I should've named Goldie Goldman Goddamn Paris. Where were you on that Goldie Goldman? Do. Feel like that little girl is like I mean she's in our hearts. We love our. We can't wait. We got her picture up. I can't wait till she is taking care of us. We have another baby. Kate Voegele is our daughter, but we've found us on. Didn't find a son. Marco Polo. He sent you an egg maker. This is so exciting I never never never would've expected it. I didn't really honestly expect anything, so it was just such a nice surprise. Now Marco Repola sent a note, and he said Hi Julie and Brandy Happy Birthday Julie and brandy enjoy the eggs you force Julie to make for you, and which you will likely eat over the Sink Marco Polo one of the proud fourteen now. I don't know if that's his real name. Because it's just so close to Marco Polo, right? However I don't care because the name Marco is so cute. He's so cute, yeah, the AIG CAROUSEL! To Poach Soft Boyle and boyle can't wait is so fucking cute. But now Marco has become a little egg that ride around in the carousels. Yes, and he's our little baby. He's one of our Philippian too big. And we just love him. We love him. No matter what is real name is we're gonNA paint, egg. after we hard boil them and we're GONNA. Paint his face on. Maybe we'll just put his picture on ironically. Kate Voegele our other daughter are other child sent us egg decorating perfect. He's that decorating and we're going to put his face one of the eggs and put him right on the windowsill so sweet. Marco, we love you. And then what else Ma'am so Julia laying sent a sweet. Card also very. TAME to. I mean the generosity of the gift card she's on was shocking to. An alcohol website. Called Saucy, which I want you know? Julie, I did already order a couple of bottles of wine to my own. In honor of Julie's birthday, and it was not even on her birthday, but there's so much left that we've basically got our celebrations planned out until new years twenty twenty three. Exact! What a sweet so nice so generous and then! I mean our international British. Cohort! She our is Trans Atlantic. Cross it Limi-. That's not even what it is crop on to party with us, and then POPs on back I mean during the special in during this time you know she's our. Our British connection our with Gemma. Exactly An- Andy Diani. Sent a best buy gift card and we can safely say. That's been spent fifty thousand times over. Yeah, also again, very generous, unnecessary incomplete. You, and perfectly me. I mean if you were to. I don't think I'm that hard to find a gift for but I don't know has anyone. I. Mean Your parents have never done it? No must feel like I. May I've never done it? and IT'S A. That's terrific. Oh my God. I mean I could just like screens TV LCD. Computer Cell Phone. Calls supplies ensures he's a useless. Tool belt type of supply, look in this this this I can put tools in. I'm like. When would you ever here's a case? I got for all my electron. Love Cases I love cases the accoutrements at best buy I it so I'm excited about that and then. UNBEKNOWNST to me. Knock, knock knocking at the door. is a delivery of chocolate covered strawberries from Leah Motherfucker, black, Which I think this is the first birthday of yours. Since Twenty fifteen hundred. We have spent at least some period of time in the week of your birthday with all the time all the time. This is the first time we haven't gotten to see Leo. fucking bitch. December since January. We miss her so much. Yep, we usually see her. We would have already seen her on spring break and we had planned. Yeah, and she even said because I thanked her for the thing to have strawberries and texting whatever and she is just feeling it. She's missing it. She's missing us. She wants to come to La. She's like we could be having fabulous parties right now. We could be you know, and it's just like no, but we're not. We're fucking wearing masks and fucking into stop inside very dorky lives. I mean are glamour quotient. Just oh toilet she has. Literally begged us to to put every animal in the car, and and also our friend Brendan and drive cross country up and I'm like well. Brendan can rent. An RV and drive it, and it's the only way he's coming with us, but. Drive all the way to Miami and then live with her and I'm like, but are you gonNA, make us wait. Are you GonNa? Make us live in the garage for two days while you spray because we need disinfectant for two days, Oh my God, if we could park a huge RV in front of Lia's unle- as driveway and live there. Oh, he knows magic, and I'm sure she has a wraparound driveway plus a separate garage. Drives where you can put your cool cars in the front. Yeah. She has all of that she's we really really do mislead Okubo really good friend of ours. Being mean to RJ and telling him he's white privilege. And you know it's like teaching him how to like try and be humble it right? You know he's a teenager, so he's just an ass We missed Roy and talking to Roy for hours about how we can do a class action suit against instagram and him telling us. And different things it's been it's. I feel the summer I feel dumber is fun yeah I. Feel it to. You don't realize there's another another added thing with with corona, you realize. What you've been taking for granted. Yeah, you know it's. It's just like missing our family. You know all right well. Thank you all the Patriot family that signed the card. If you want to join our Patriot John. Just remember can't get over there. WWW DOT patriots dot com slash dumb gave politics. Thank you to Marco. Julie laying and IANNI and of course Leah. We love you guys Julie. Really just really sweet Julie deserves to be loved and celebrated on her birthday. And now it's time for the shitty weaken corona. God! Grab. All right we changed the name of this segment from I of the Shit storm to the Shitty Week and corona, and since changing the name, this was by far the shittiest week Corona, okay cases surge nationwide, mainly among younger people this time, and it remains to be seen whether it was because of bars and restaurants, opening up or the weeks of huge marches across the country, but whatever the reason it's real. It's happening. It's here and it's been here because it's pandemic. But with all due to the people who have lost someone know someone or who themselves suffered from covid nineteen here on this podcast, no amount of state testing statistics or fighting about masks is going to make us stop talking about the most important, and in fact, deadliest epidemic in America and that's racial inequality and injustice. Now is the time this is the fight. Dumb Gay politics is here for we're committed to it and we refused to look away. Away? Trump sucks and he's made the pandemic ten times worse than it had to be. We want everyone to stay safe. Stay home when you can and wear a mask, but turns out sweetie. We don't fucking care of Mike. Pence doesn't wear masks. We hear that he won't black lives matter. We don't fucking care if the protesters don't wear masks, we care that they're out there day in and day out marching and protesting for black lives matter. And we're so grateful that they're doing it, so we don't have to be out there. Doing this show is our black lives. Matter March, and we are marching every fucking week until November and beyond because for us, this moment is so much bigger than covid nineteen, clearly, because as of today America, is on its thirty first consecutive day of civil unrest. Every day we wake up and get scared. The marches have stopped and every day they never do, and it's so fucking awesome. We never want them to end. We want them to happen every day until November. When Joe Biden becomes president and. And Democrats in the House and the Senate, and then we want them to keep happening until they pass the sweeping police reform bill, and then pass the sweeping voter suppression bill, and then pass the sweeping antitrust bill to break up and regulate Amazon, and facebook and Google, and then pass the wealth tax bill and don't forget ratifying Roe v Wade, so the constitution to include a woman's right to choose, and then we can all throw a high five and start marching again for racial equality in public schools, infrastructure, universal basic income of one thousand dollars, a month and free fucking childcare buck yeah. That's how it's all going to go down. We've predicted here and that's how it's all Gung Ho Corona. Who will this past week took us one step closer to taking back Congress, and what makes it even more exciting? Is that a lot of the candidates that won their primaries now are black, and two of them are gay to wow now if you're new here. Or you missed our show from two weeks ago. We did interview Charles Booker he's the Senate candidate from Kentucky. Who is running against a white lady? Trump Democrat with a way bigger budget. Bigger budgets mean more commercials and people running massive campaign. Ads are very hard titu job. But, thanks in literally no part to our podcast Charles Booker's Becky neck with amy, McGrath and in certain times even out taking her by a few point. Those final results come in later tonight and we did consider waiting, but the last time we waited in a primary we were up. All night ended up daily and a dollar short crying about Elizabeth Warren. Yeah so okay well quickly because you guys need to know this crap in New York's Sixteenth district, which is like the Bronx. There had been a you know. A twenty three hundred million year incumbent Eliot Engel he's fucking whack. Julie thinks he looks like a pedophile with all. Do you look where you're going to be weird? He looks like a character out of like Charlie and the chocolate factory just a look just talking in the seventies and Jamal Bowman I mean this guy's an incumbent Democrat who who's been in that district, Jamal Bowman a black guy who's a principal. Like a junior high middle school, there was a principal at a middle school. It's an upset like. Yes, New York Shock. We are shook. He is fucking awesome. Eliot Engel is the chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. He's like. Not just been. They're sitting there for twenty three years, but he's like sitting up. He's like. Jerry Nadler. He's like. Huge huge. Asked handed to us, he didn't. He didn't shelter in place district. He stayed in his posh neighborhood in Washington. And then he got caught on a hot mike, saying begging to like get on, get on the mic at this like sort of address that the president of the City Council of the Bronx Holding and he just said look man I wouldn't even be trying to talk if it wasn't if I didn't have a primary I wouldn't be here. And people were just turned off. Guys Wack by Bitch Bobbitt's keep on sweeping out. Who's old white losers? Don't care part of you. End Up, so stoked yup so then. We Got Mondale Jones and now here's the deal. You guys aren't Seventeenth district. That's above the Bronx. So this is like a suburb leave. It's in Westchester. This guy's black. He's gay if he wins and it looks like he will. His seat was previous I mean he already won the primary, but he has to win. You know, but because his his seat was previously held by Nita Lowey, who is retiring also old, also white. If he when he gets in there in November, he'll be the first openly gay black congressman I want to let you guys know Ma'am and are going to reach out, and it is going to work, and he will be coming on the PODCAST, and we will be rocking Mon- dare Jones shirts and everybody's going to be like where the fuck did you get that and we're going to be like? We're not telling because that's how tight the should've. Yeah, we are obsessed with Montclair I mean I. WE'RE GONNA, play this campaign ad I had to leave the room and cry in come into the drug cry, which was great, because when she left I was able to have my own. So is perfect. My grandfather used to tell me a story about how when he would walk to school growing up in Virginia. That, they're white students. Who got to take the bus and they would spit on him through the school bus windows. As he was walking dirt path on his way to school. I was raised by a single mother who worked multiple jobs and we still need food stamps to get by. My grandparents helped raise. My grandfather was a janitor. My grandmother cleaned homes. I didn't come from money. I'm black, I'm gay in so I. Don't see people like me in office very often. Every day we wake up and if feels like the world is on fire. You also had people that were. A woman's right to choose on this economy is on fire. The Department of Justice is on fire. The right to be free from the epidemic of gun. Violence is on five. This is what my grandparents had to experience when they were growing up. Half a century ago and the response of Democrats in two thousand nineteen. CanNot be to compromise our values for the sake of compromise. We have got to be fighting tooth and nail for the things that we say we believe. Agreement deal Medicare for all and criminal justice reform. I've been fighting my entire life I. It was against the odds of my upbringing to make it to Stanford University to work in the Obama. Administration and then go to Harvard law. School, I've been fighting in the courtrooms on behalf of West Chester. County residents and now running to fight for the people of New York Seventeenth Congressional district. To represent the same people whose homes. I watched my grandmother clean. That is the quintessential American dream. We don't need more millionaires in Congress. We need more people of color more young people more queer people. We need more people in office who understand that experience who can speak to people who have been shut out of the political process? The stakes are too high for us to just sit out on the sidelines. My grandmother would be stoked if I want. Yeah, she's already proud of me. There was also ritchie tours who won the Democratic Primary For New York's Fifteenth District, which is the South Bronx was his all kind of in the same area. These three guys pitchy. Torres is also is gay openly gay. The gays are growing up and getting into politics. Bitch. He was the youngest person to ever be elected to legislative is in the Bronx. Bronx and the first openly gay candidate, and he's interesting because he's more. He says he's a progressive Democrat, but he's like he's trying to talk more I. Don't know really what the right word is like. He's trying to speak to moderates. He's trying to speak the language. Yes, so that that he he won't seem so scary, but he's. He's so young and. Yeah right exactly, yeah. Well. It's all exciting and great, and the there are things to just hold onto to really feel good right now because November is going to. We're going to blink in. That Shit's going to be here I mean it's already goddamn fourth of July. which is supposed to be our one week off a year, but we already took it a little while ago. We can't do it now, but the thing that's really exciting. Is that in North Carolina? Trump had endorsed he. He backed a candidate to replace Mark Meadows. WHO's a dumb piece of shit? That trump had come up to his administration, so he abandoned the seat Republican Party was pissed because they didn't want. They don't want any seats a band right because we're snatching. Every seat left and right and I. Think it's fucking clear. Yeah, so. But trump back a certain candidate and this twenty four year old motivational speaker, Republican a Madison Cawthorn who's paralyzed from the waist down. He rolled his wheelchair. Right in and be handily an easily beat trump's candidate, so that's a very very bad sign with north. Carolina went trump right, and then in Kentucky same thing there's this. Sitting Congressmen named Thomas Massie who is Republican, but he. Basically he forced a vote. Everybody was gone during coronavirus in this Guy Thomas Massie was NBC. There was a there was a vote on an economic package. The package for everybody get stimulus. Blah Blah. Rather than let people vote. 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York and meanwhile he also has like twenty other important jobs that he's doing at all times being a criminal justice, civil rights professors, probably just one of his hobby jobs that he does just to unwind. He's also the CO founder and CEO of the center for Policing Equity. Which is the number one organization on racism in policing and the entire fucking world. How incredible is that? Man is so next level everything simply hearing him, talk will make you feel. Feel like quitting your own light. I mean he probably can't even walk outside an order a coffee without flying his head from every gender identity in every direction literally I think he might have turned Rachel maddow straight. Okay, you know what I'm saying I mean I usually hate men. You know but I want to enroll in his class just so that I never have to stop hearing him. Explain things to me but lucky for us. That's exactly why he's here today. So without further ADO. It's time for police reform. SCHOO- with Dr Phillip a Tiba. Goff hi Dr Al.. All right There's no way to live up to that intro, so it's been lovely and I appreciate, but now I have to go. See you later so now just to start. There's a million different hashtags being bandied about right now and we really want you to explain. Just sort of the basic difference between institutional reform versus defunding the police versus abolishing the police. Okay. Let's start with fuck all that north okay. Hold on the. Reason you know make. All of that noise. I'm so glad to be able to talk without having to worry about whether or not. Cursing is okay. The deal is that. All of those things overlap in terms of providing better security and safety for vulnerable communities on abolition means a whole bunch of different things to different people. So, let me give you a couple of different ways that people talk about it. One is literally I mean literally fuck police. They're gone out I. Only one dude from the village people The communities can take care of themselves right I'm. There's literally no need for them. We have the ways of managing, and this is functionally what happens in a lot of incredibly secure national. Communities that had own private security that literally works for the seventeen people in the date gated community. That all you know, slop partners and get drunk with the kids on the weekend. enough money functionally you have defended the police because your security is time it's is that's a that's a level of abolition that makes sense for some folks. He said we. We need resources. We don't need armed response effects, another version of abolition, which again just get rid of the thing is to say look. We didn't have formal law enforcement in this country and a whole bunch of different cities until there was property. That had two legs and could learn to read. It was really the folks who were descended from Africa and some native folks, not talking about the Irish year is not comparable ideas. Especially when black people running away torch freedom. They said we need a full time. Employment units to chase their Ashdown while. The police is literally created. To keep black people from freedom. In some cities, there's no there's no record of a formal. Police Department until their runaway slaves. Clear even in the stage where that's not true, there's no city that has existed for any length of time. That didn't have formerly racist laws and heck has to enforce racist laws. That'd be the police that be law enforcement. So at quitting time between the time when they're like. Hey, my running away. I will pay you to catch them through. Hey, those black people in my neighborhood late at night and I want you to beat them up. Did we say hey the whole reason for this institution to Exist? That's fucked up. We should start over so what ideal abolition is! The mission was blocked from the beginning. Abolish it and then start over. The more common theme that I hear both from black communities, and for many activists that we work closely with is some version of we need to invest in black communities from which we have divested no. Social Welfare programs there. We don't have public health. We don't have mental health services. Fourteen million kids go to school with no nurse, no, no psychological services, but they got a coffin. The school right like those sets of where we take all the money out of all the social programs, and then the only thing we fund are the police that is not the Mickey's of actual public safety. Public Safety Exist what you've got a an armed unit. respond to every single face it existing. You don't have to call the police in the first ones. So. The cost of fund are frequently shrink. Of punishment grow our investment in empowerment, and you'll have safer communities that way and I want to be clear the reason why I said fuck all that noise the beginning. Is because there is no daylight between those set of demands in terms of the outcomes, and what police chiefs have been telling me for the last dozen years as the head of senator policing equity. There's no police chief that I talked to on the regular. Who says you know what I want I want from my officers to show up in schools where kids are having a meltdown and introduce a Bajic gun to high school. Kids were stay. You know what I think is the best way to respond to someone who overdosing the threat of imprisonment. Idea? So the officers don't think so, and the protesters don't think so. Now whether is a light is the protesters like I want to take your budget and it's just like well. Hold on a second there. I until I had less money, but that's ninety percent agreements between the folks who think the police should get bigger budgets in the post shouldn't exist the reason why we're having this conversation right now is because we've never had honest conversations about race, and what is owed to black subs. So that's the reason why it sounds so divisive, and some of these claims. That's lunacy. How can we possibly up to that? Know everybody who knows what they're talking about? Things that the vast majority of these demands are absolutely credible. Feasible lamentable right now they're concrete's everybody. Who knows what they're talking about, but we don't know how to talk to each other. Because race has always been the sin in the way. If you had the power to do like restructure, love, horsemen or the police in any way, you could right now. Just I don't even care if it's like we all fly. What would what would you make? How would it look? So, if flying is opting for sure. Right like why would why would you offer? Nothing Very. Quickly solve that we solved that. Thank, you can't take and take. A look this magic wand question that I get kind of all the time. How dare I be so cliche? No no the thing the reason why I get it all the time is because people are really at that moment. Where like wow, what we've been doing? But! I can't imagine what would be next. To. Tell US exactly 'cause 'cause we don't know. Here's the thing I hope people gets lots of times. Experts are supposed to come on TV or you know fabulously gave podcasts. At explain all right like the thing is, you're supposed to ask questions and I'm supposed to have answers. I absolutely am an expert and I can tell you I don't have a fucking clue. Best way is okay, and it's really important for experts to say that because the point is not that we have the answers, the point is that our guesses or going to be better informed and we're to be more responsible with the things we don't know. I'm saying that because a leasing, but because if we understood and had that healthy respect for how science fucking works, we have tens of thousands of people who would be decorative Irish Ryan. Yeah, do you think part of it is like other experts? Let's say there's other experts you think like what you're saying I. Think is actually kind of like vulnerable and honest to say I, don't I don't know I don't have the answers, but if we were to. I'll be honest with each other and go. None of us know, but we do know that this exists. This exists. This exists. This exists, and we're all GONNA come together to try to fight it. Maybe we could do that. Yeah that's exactly the way that it should work so on the issue of Matt's. If somebody had said. Hey, we don't know how well master to at the very beginning. Master going to work until a protected you. Thousand Percent Short. But while we don't have a lot of mass, let's save them for the people we know are infected and the people who are going into hospitals, and as we learn more, we'll update you if they had said that out loud, which by the way what doctors and medical professionals epidemiologists were saying been? Nobody is confused when they say everybody wear masks. We got enough right, but instead what happened is like. Oh, doctor said, don't wear masks now. They said where mass nobody knows anything. That's why it's all about our individual rights. So that's that's part of the problem. It's the same thing on policing. We have not invested in policing nearly as much as we've invested in infectious diseases, and so we know even less about the right way to produce public safety than we do about what's going over the dam rotavirus, right? But that said I can tell you. There's there are some principals at if the people who are being police the most. Don't have waste it. How the police police dumb? You're going to see pushback violence, and even sometimes uprising riots I can also tell you that if we're not focused on giving people, the resources so communities don't have to call the police in the first place and we're not focused on the right thing. We framed policing. We played public safety about the bad people out of communities as opposed to imagining that every moment of crime is the failure of that community, because the community failed by the resources that were necessary for someone to live within the restrictions of the social contract. Right, so what because we framed the problem wrong? We end up solutions that are ill fitted towards use. I don't know where to look like if and when we ever get it right, but I know that radically different approaches are necessary because what we've been doing sure as fuck has work. Is it going to be something that we try in Minneapolis and then one city at a time, or it could be reform across the board, and then how long would that take? Oh so wish we could do a reform across award, but that would require adult leadership, so don't even. Know I mean so law enforcement is set up. It's regulated by states like Alabama regulates law enforcement in Alabama and the federal government doesn't have a lot to say about how. There's not a lot of federal levers on municipal law enforcement or on state patrols. Okay, 'cause I was GONNA make controls the FBI and the FBI, and only right so they can do is they can say. Here's some things we'd like you to do, but that's called a request. They also say you don't do this. We won't give you money. which is less than five percent of your budget at at the largest which I will say, okay, so the levers are relatively slim except for litigation and you know there was a presidential candidate in the last cycle who said every shooting be investigated by DOJ and I cried I cried laughing. because. The the number of people during the Obama Administration, so this is back when we had a democracy. But deal had several lawyers who specialize in doing these kind of. Free, who managers three folks who could Leeann investigation with a thousand police ball commerce is a year for those of you attention that's around three hundred and thirty three cases per year PRA lawyer good luck fucker case a day. Holiday low. That'll reasonable way to do this. So local local places like look, you're sixty. You'RE GONNA have to do this state. You'RE GONNA have to do this and the federal government can amplify the best of what we know, but what they should be doing is trying to get the leaders to do better research and to coordinates their efforts so that instead of trying one thing that we know doesn't work like Damn Damn around just say no to drugs. That's like telling teenagers just say no to masturbation. Good luck. Right like that doesn't work and we've got decades. eviced stopped trying it. It's magical thinking what leadership could do if we had any and I hope one day we return to a world where our leaders are not just the worst among us right maybe somewhere in the middle. I would absolutely cut off a limb from see students running our government. What is the deal with? The unions are that? Is that one giant National Organization or is it separate? Is that separated by state or city? These police unions. Yes Oh who specialized police? Unions still don't know what the fuck they're doing. Because not because they're not good for because unions are real juicing, so there's a the national F-. Which is the largest police union that is set? You know federalizing in the center federated? Excuse me in the sense that there's a national brand in your local branches, but then in place like New York. There's the officers union. The Sergeants Benevolent Association on the Lieutenant's The detectives I think he's got a white dog. You get a different union. Every level has the different fucking unit. Is somewhere between forty thousand officers and two hundred thousand officers. It's huge. It's a city. So I mean it's different than all other law enforcement, but you do have different unions in different cities and remember there's eighteen thousand law enforcement agencies roughly in the US, seventy five percent of them are twenty five officers are fewer, and the thousand of them are just one do. I WANNA BE A. Guy, like an an olden day show on the ball, one smokey and the bandits sheriff's office. One you who's also on a horse was often in the back of a truck being driven by somebody. Who was the one dude at the next over? Loss United States is mostly tiny. Rewrite the numbers that are going Arou-, that means ain't got no union, but they also don't have somebody who works homicides right? They've got Steve and see the parking meters on Alternate Tuesdays does cold-case on homicide. fucking thing I mean if I ever have to dump a body I'm definitely. GonNa do it in the one horse. Yeah now? So, what is the deal with these fucking union, so they give all these Democrats and Republicans. Were full and yeah. This is the thing that unions in General Ju- unions and General become politicized. They involve themselves in a local political process, because that makes it easier for them to negotiate their contracts later people get mad at teachers, unions and cities for the same reason. It's just that they don't collect so much money. And so policing is particularly in the eighties and nineties started gathering were chests. To make sure of. It was scary to political offals that ran counter to their interests from a selfish perspective. You get that you want power, and you use power to make sure that other people give you the things that you want. The, problem is that in many cases not all, but in many cases for union leadership, their only interest is making sure that nobody on the force has bad things happen regardless of whether or not the behaviors of individual are bad for the profession or bad for the other officers but one. They built on like racial bias in the first place. Why is it of course you want your union members to make the most money Ed? To make these people above the law. Why. Yeah so it. It's easy to tell stories about this like all of this is. I would just encourage everybody resist that urge because you're GONNA end up with solutions that don't solving the problem. So absolutely are some union. Has the I have met? Who just hate the Negroes? It's real easy snowed on their breath away. They looked up and down and asked whether or not I really have a PhD like those people are obvious, but for the most part there's this perverse incentive. So, let's imagine that we're all together. In a police department and somebody has to to run for the Union. And there's two candidates. The three of us are gonNA. Go Up between these two candidates and one candidate says I am going to not support people who I think did wrong and damage our reputation in our brains, and you you like hey, that sounds good and the other person says I'm going to support you. No matter what the fuck you do because that's what we do in this, Uber. The second person always wins. It doesn't matter that we all share the same values like. Beer, the second person always wins so the union leadership isn't even always the most representative of the rest of the folks, and in fact, in many places, black and women officers tend to not vote in unions. Don't participate because they feel like their views are not well represented there, but the Union is the only group that can negotiate the contracts. By the collective bargaining is handled exclusively through the union, and that means you have even sort of roughly equal numbers of black and white. Officers, but they're all white union leadership. So in a problematic sort of let's say precinct, or whatever the word is, it is it? Is that environment setup like that because of the unions or like how much responsibility goes to the police chief? Are they usually? Better than like maybe whatever set of officers are gross assholes almost? It is often the case that. Accidents, an incompetence are bigger drivers of the problems then Mallusk. Right it is often the case, but it's also the case. The accidentally competence abets malice so in lots of departments PC. It really is just like bigoted officers. Better doing the worst of the offices are just like the ones we just saw in in Charlotte. who were fired? Who said the race wars are coming and I can't wait to go out and slaughter. Edwards like you click not be cleared. Clear in San Antonio Guy, who was speaking somebody and call him the N. word was fired, and then just got his job back, and the union said US and Edwards just as bad as the mayor saying God damn. With the words just in the words of John The lady I gotTa save like if you're arguing about the badness of words, and you won't even say one of those words. And Them and won't even say what the N. Word. No is not. Yes, so in those situations the union, but also the civil service contract, and also the way in which the the process arbitration works, and also the culture or the subculture within that precinct. All of those things conspire to say. How bad is it really how hard you really WanNa? Fight for this one. They wear it down by attrition. Yeah. Who calls an arbitrator like in the in the case of those guys in San Jose? They had like some kind of racist social media situation. One of them was fired, and then they brought in an arbitrator, and he got his job back and then got caught in like some whack facebook. Rose, facebook group. So like who is the arbitrators that from the union, so arbitration is often just a way to make sure that people don't lose their jobs, but it depends some places. They have a special arbiter who comes in and does all police work some cases to city has that to avoid other lawsuits on so basically anybody gets fired by the city. The same arbitration team that comes in and some places it is, they'll. They'll be a process in fact will be arbitration for choosing arbitrating. But in every city, the goal of is. Pay Anybody. Don't be so mad. And when somebody was using racial slurs and beating people while. I don't know that that's the best solution to our collective problem. Now right talking about our feelings in that moment doesn't seem like it's. It's ideal for solving problems of injustice. Right so it's the wrong tool for the problem that we've got and that I. Think is the core of the whole conversation police. It is the wrong tool for the problems that we've got I. Mean Police are good at stopping individuals from committing criminal violence, but they're powerless to save communities from the violence of poverty were state neglect, and the problem is that I saw them. Always follows the second set of problems, and we're using police to try and solve all of which. How hard is it to fire these guys? Like, what's the process? Does it released you go? You're fired, and then union comes in goes turns out sweetie. They're coming on back to work and everyone's like. fucking eight offs coming back to work is like what's. So. It'll depend on the city, but lots of times. What will happen is there's a process internally. Does she usually make a decision There's an arbitration process in the city or city. Attorney will take a look. were. There's a there's a lawsuit to get jobs back. And the deck is stacked in favor of law. Enforcement's that's. The longest show is hard to fire law enforcement's because their civil service and anybody's ever had a civil service. Job knows how very difficult it is to lose one. We watched you and the the hearing for the justice and policing. God I could talk to you for an hour about that and I want to go through every. Gusting. One I. To bring up Jim Jordan I'm like we don't have time for that ship. Gates Gym. The other one I can't remember his name comes, so you're one of the things that you you talked about wanting a national registry. So what? Why would that mattered like? Does the red like sex offenders matter? Would it matter how how did it help? Yeah, so? Entirely different thing. You would hope at least. And there's actually lots of reasons why the registry vendors is a problem, but. No seriously tends to target folks younger when they committed their acts. That they actually were involved in what we might consider genuinely consensual acts, but because of the ages of the people. It looks like it's a problem, but he was seventeen and she was sixteen, and that's the problem in the state will yes. Ever, I mean I. Don't ever consider it like a very valid right because someone's life is ruined because seventy year old kid has sixteen year old girl. Don't know anyone who's like. Let me refer to the sex offender registry and see what's going on. I mean I don't know anybody who does that. Who has anything like healthy functioning? But that's a different topic different podcast on the fire officer registry. It's a lot like this. If you knew the surgeon who was working on you. Had! Their licence revoked for any chili dogs over someone they were operating on state over. You'd want to know that, so you could say. I'll I'll wait for you to open me up until we have somebody WHO's not likely to each on top of WHO's not you. And in a way if there was a lawyer. Who Basically said. You're going to jail unless you give me all this money and have sex with me and then was disbarred for engaging in that behavior. You'd WANNA. Make sure that you knew that or that. They couldn't be a lawyer any more. But. That's not how we treat. Police now think about that. Doctors are given the power to take away or to restore life whereas I give the power to take away or restore liberty and freedom. Caucus can do both. Your. Natural. For the shits. The, only people who with you. We have nothing like those standards so you. We have terrible cases so. Take his career rice where you have a off. Who was about to be fired in his last job because he couldn't regulate his emotions, and he was bad at following standard use of force protocol, Fuck. I'm a quick. In Cleveland doesn't tell them that he was about to get fired. And then inside a couple of months he gets out of his car inside of two seconds, shoots and kills a year old boy. Gets on the radio and says I just shot somebody. You've probably twenty. Right they fired him from there so what I think he has now. He's a police officer. Right inside the same goddamn states. Here's. Here's the deal. If you've made the registry than states and cities and departments to say if you've been fired for these reasons, you can't get a job here and you circumvent all the problems that come up when they have the Ralph. And that's the kind of thing that like. It's just commonsense. Now. Some of this feels milk toast compared to the moment, because the moment isn't just police and you have the on because I'm an expert on racism and policing, but the reality is right now. The moment outs. The four hundred years of unpaid debts owed to black communities and policing is just the spark. That brings us here. But we can do some common sense, obvious shits, but it's GonNa. Make it at least a little bit better while we're thinking about doing the big shit and we need to do both it's everything, and this is the Improv moment for justice. It's a yes and kind of. skews you're not. Doing. That's what I wanna hear, and so what I, what I'm not interested in its people say it has to be my way because your way hasn't worked. No, no ways have worked enough, but people think that the the reform efforts that have been going down for the last quarter-century have received appropriate funding at appropriate scaling. I don't know what they're smoking, but they should share by just not a moment where it's important to tear down the things that make common sense. We should be doing both and now I'm looking at the time and you love. Ladies are wonderful, but I'm seven minutes late for my next kids so I have to let you go. Hate the movie crash. Crash should never be played ever. Tell, everyone before you go how they can find you what they can do to just your your final words to our audience to find you and also what we can all do right now. Okay, so you can follow me on twitter at Dr Phil. DRP H. I l.. Also following at policing equity, policing equity also has a facebook page and his new on the instill like the young people say, go to policing equity dot org. If you want to buy Murphy Says Justice Nerd, which is our Hashtag and is just super-slick. And you just generally follow all those. That's a thing, but the most important thing that anybody can be doing right now. Especially if you're not Rama, where in with the communities that are most directly affected is buckle the fuck up. And don't look away. There's going to be another one and we've got to climb out from underneath all of the carnage. Look at anything like light, which means you gotta get educated. Do this plus your library find out when the Union contract up for renegotiation? Look away stay engaged so that the next timer were not all as a country so stupid about what we allow for people with badges and guns to do in Our Name. Good luck with your next meeting. You'll miss this. Thank you again we're. Buckling up. We're buckling up. y'All be good, still lesbian any. Time talking okay you too okay. Stay Lesbian. He Dr Phil Okay I will. Hey Guys Jason here in whether you're working from home or working on your fitness. You want what you're listening to be. What your listening to know. We don't want to catch glimpses and a little bits of. BITs. 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Shit has hit the fan and the air hopefully will continue to be consistently an irrevocably new and fresh and see. Pigs just getting. You know what I mean. I love when you do that now. that. Let's just feels good. Even though I'm going to pop whatever blood clot, I have right now in my head and mouth, you know. It's been very interesting the last few weeks as it has felt just absolutely hopeless, but I have to say this is the first time I don't know how long where I had to decide between a few different, so there's the lights. Go to be true and I think that, and this seems to be what's up from the confederate flags, being banned to the racist or very white, leaning statues, coming a tumbling down two buildings, being renamed to glorify people who didn't oppressed enslave, or keep men down with that said this may seem trite, but I actually feel it's a huge step forward particularly in our business, where discrimination runs wild and feels like actually capitalizes on stereotypes, sexism and white privilege. It's pulling the curtain back on something that maybe you Kinda knew, but you're never really all that certain about now as you know I, love animated. Shit, yes, cartoons, comic books, animated shows, movies, anything, and I I never really stopped to wonder who is voicing what characters because. I always was wondering how many women were denied work. But it has come to our attention. That many animated shows, and a few that I watch myself have had characters who were black or some other ethnicity voiced by white actors. Now this is fucked up. You may say, but it's just the voice, and that's a cartoon, but then I would argue well does an actor or should an actor gay to play? Gay People say acting as a craft of acting acting like a certain thing I mean I'm not actually a forensics expert I'm acting like one. Are we going to hire the exact thing that the thing is supposed to be well? It's always better if you can get. Mean they let Dr Ken. Jong play, fuck in his show was about being out. That's true. But on the most part, no, we're acting pretending and true diehard fucking craft people acting whatever will always say, it's just you know. What do we always say what it's acting? Nothing more than simply pretending to act, but I also always say fucking cast a gay person in a gay rolled out of my face right now, maybe in the time of Shakespeare where they didn't even let women. Act and men played every part because women should be kept in the corner, cooking pregnant and stuck in the man's Dick and men couldn't handle women living outside the role that they created for them and needed to control well. Isn't that sort of what the white entertainment establishment has done now with roles that. That could very easily be given to that particular underserved community, rather than continually controlling and being the white self-serving dominator. Now I don't blame the actor who takes the role for the most part, but I do blame the establishment which needs to be changed. We all went crazy. brokeback mountain because Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger Played Gay my God? What heroes? What a stretch! We don't need gay guys playing gay guys. We want celebrities and acting. Why cast the gay guy when you can catch Jake Jalen Hall? WHO's probably we? Certainly Gay and transports have been more open, and it's getting better. The visibility of hot gay men who women still WanNa fuck has grown exponentially. We've seen arise guys I'd like to fuck. I know. We've seen a rise in the in the. What does that word I tried to write? Foaming I mean certainly Tom, hardy. We've seen a rise in. Man Oh. We've even seen a rise in the flaming homosexual where he's once maybe played by a straight guy. Whistle talking, and he could be our hero, saying love is love, and men are men, but I'm married and I love women, so don't worry about it, though God forbid anyone lays, is butch dyke for too long because God knows that still a thing. Seriously though the LGBT situation entertainment has come a long way, and does have quite a ways to go. I mean Khloe begets God's playing. Trans fucking! Please come on. But it doesn't end with Geisha Transit. No, and even though there's a long way to go. The level that it's gotten better has to be acknowledged. Spaghetti Bhagat's didn't do trans wasn't Khloe seventy yeah. I, think they both did only to. The rampant and egregious practice of white actors, voicing black characters is still a thing, but it looks like those days are coming to an end the animated show. The Cleveland Show is an offshoot of family guy. Cleveland Brown was Peter Griffin's black neighbor and one of his Inner Circle Guy Friends. Cleveland got his own spin off and it lasted for like seven seasons well, it was sucked and fucking. Seth Macfarlane Kentucky's fucking awesome show. that. Show is fucking a problem from the beginning right now. Cleveland is like a huge beloved character on family guy and guess what the actor who played Cleveland up until this week is white white. What the Fuck Are you? Kidding me and you even take it his wife on the on the show show I mean on the Cleveland Show Yeah. Well did he play thirteen other characters on family guy I believe so yeah. The actor who is named Mike Henry came out this week and said he's going to step down from playing. Cleveland and I love what he said he tweeted. It's been an honor to play Cleveland on family. Guy For twenty years. I love this character, but persons of color should play per characters of color. Therefore I will be stepping down from the role like I, said I. Don't blame the actors. We are suffering fools. Take any fucking job that is offered. Honestly, if someone said you need to voice a disabled black deaf veteran up until the second honestly I'd say how much and when do I start I haven't worked in a year. You worked in fuck in December. and. He did play in veteran. That's right well. We're desperate and we'll take anything and if you're an actor, you know we've all been there. However, the shifting consciousness is sorely needed and Mike. Henry has already opened the door for other actors to do the same apparently Jenny slate voiced a character on the show big mouth. Who is mixed race? She's stepping down. Kristen Bell voices a character on a show called Central Park. She's stepping down and even hank is area who voices APU. On. The Simpsons said he will be relinquishing the role. I think this is an important step for the entertainment industry and actors on the one hand. It's a sacrifice for actors to roles that are virtually impossible to come by and on the other hand. It's a huge deal for people of color to attain roles that are also impossible to come by and have been passed over because of white privilege. The plainfield needs to be evened out. Everyone needs to step back and assess their role as a player, and even more so the game itself needs a complete overhaul and I think these sacrifices by these actors will lead the way for more work for people of color so there's that. Could. 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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - January 29th 2021

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Weekend Stakes Preview Presented by NYRA Bets - January 29th 2021

"Welcome to the weekend stakes preview. On the horse racing radio network presented by naira vets play. Call put his head in front of happy farm through a half a forty six thousand four and play. Call take some past quarter bowl in front happy form tries to donald back along the inside. My boy team drafted between far outside. Stand up now. Peaks play call passes the poll like african front forgave bogus. Let's drift and now. He's straightens out standing the man a final runaround pass the sixteenth pete's play call gonna take the and he wanted to over stand the man it got type in between drafted by roy. Take final time for the six and a half furlongs. What one seventeen and three now. Here's anthony beal and bobby newman. Everyone welcome to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bats here on the horse racing radio network. I'm the big anthony to in new york. Bobby newman down in south florida producer. Lee dela pena back in our lexington kentucky studios thirteen racist for you this weekend. Lots of great action. two points. Prep races on the road to the kentucky. Derby one down at gulfstream. The holy bull. As well as bob lewis out of the great race. Place again. thirteen to get to. What's happening bobby. I'm just glad we're going to get all the race tracks running this of course Because of weather conditions in both new york and southern california santa anita an aqueduct cancelled or did not even schedule and in one case. There live racing programs on friday but both will be back in action this weekend. Of course great stakes out there and it seems like every weekend at gulfstream park during this championship meet there are big stakes looking forward to. And it's amazing that storm that cost the cancellation of the friday. Santa anita card going to develop as it makes its way west to east to the point where laurel has postponed their sunday car. 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I don't think the the biggest. I think the biggest pressures eleven dollar so head over to narrow bits dot com for more details again. Accurate racy oaklawn race five tampa race eight ecuador. Grace nine oakland ray. Six at the mayor bets dot com for more details. They just announced a brand new handicap and challenge schedule. Three thousand dollars tournaments on gotham. They would well moriel day. Find all out action out over at nyra. Dot com backslash challenge. All right. let's get into it will at ecuador's pete's play call installed as the nine to five second choice on the morning line. He just wanted to graves end. He is the second choice than the number three. She of the ride. Who is the to five morning line favorite. He ran just two weeks ago. Got beat down. Laurel in the fireplug these to figure. Take the bulk of the money. Stan the man always in the offing a little good old fashioned speed develops go seven phones and race for tomorrow. The grade three toboggan race four kicks off that mandatory payout in the empire. Six couple more days of that every day. We'll give away the empire sixty. I don't know if we're going to continue it into february. Try and let you know Next week during in race day at the very least kicks off. Tomorrow with the toboggan. Well i i think it's very evenly matched field. There's only field of five. And i actually think all five of them have a chance in the race. The the reason that number three share the ride is who i liked. The best is because he may be front of this field. The the other ones don't really look like they have quite the same early speed that share the ride. Does i know. American power went to the lead last time but he normally comes from a little bit off the pace. And i think share the ride will be able to find his way to the front under manny franco. Who who hasn't ridden in a while and to be honest isn't having quite. The acquiesced meet that i thought he was going to have. Yeah he's winning it about thirteen percent. But i thought he'd actually went a lot more races. And maybe maybe that'll start with this race on saturday. He's too good of a writer not to win more races. During the winter there at acworth share the ride. I'm not concerned with the fact he ran two weeks ago. This seems to be his pattern. Whether he's trained by tonio ariaca or miguel penalosa. They they seem to. The horse seems to run better when he doesn't have big breaks between when he works and time off he. He doesn't seem to fire his best shots. I mean this is a horse who ran three times during the month of september last year and looked like he was getting better and better. He ran november. Eighteenth november twenty ninth Now coming back as you said less than two weeks again for most horses. I wouldn't like it. Seems like for share the ride. That may be the best way of going. And it's just a pace play for me. I really don't think he's better than some of the other ones in here. But i think he's going to get to the lead. Yeah when you combine the fact that he runs off the short breaks with the fact that he he he's the speed Play call was kind of helped along last time. Happy farm who just missed in the gravesend last year it was making his first start in ten months he kind of laid upon just laid up right off. A happy farm took over on the turn was able to hold stan. The man this pace pete's play call number one. Is you have to do it from an inside. Draw from the rail on on share. The ride i went three four and here i thought she other ride was gonna bossom around the front end. I think if they're more pace on the extra half rely big. The man could run them down in here. Those are the two for me. Share the ride over stan. The man is four goes as the grade three toboggan. We'll come back to accurate. For the jimmy wingfield on sunday later on in the program five stakes all including that holy bowl with derby points on the line of gulfstream. We'll get to those now starting in race for the great three kittens joy a flat mile on the turf. That's just about once around. Seven runners set to go the eight furlongs. Todd pletcher could have a very big day at gulfstream park And they'll kick things off here. He's got the nine to five morning favorite. Never surprised the perfect two for two on. The turf hasn't run since taking the central park. This was just talking about quick turnaround for todd pletcher. This is like three days. Twenty day turnaround from the maiden win to the central park source. Beat a nicer force in hard love that day. He's nine to five on the morning. Line with junior herati just won his third consecutive eclipse award. Four top jockey. Anyone four or five races on thursday goes. I think he's got a chance to win a bunch of races on saturday as well. You know. I hate to oversimplify central fi things. But i'm going to use a term that you and i both liked when describing never surprise. I just think he's better than this group. That's all there is to it. The two races run in my mind are easily better than any race that any of the other six runners has ever run. Thus far never surprised went gate to wire last time out. I guess the only knock if there is one is the fact that the other speed of the race is just outside of a number seven kentucky pharaoh for jackson and julian leper ru. But i'm not convinced ever surprise has to have the lead. He may have just inherited the lead. They were going awfully slow in that race. I mean he got the lead going forty nine and to the half and he came from off the pace sprinting in his debut. So my guess is that if kentucky farrell wants to go i read. Ortiz will let them go with never surprise like i said i just think either one of his last two starts not only are a little bit better than the field. I think are way better than what this field can handle. He's nine to five on the morning line. If you can get nine to five on this horse you should push people out of the way to get your bed. I'll tell you what i agree with you. I think he's gonna let kentucky pharaoh. And i think original is gonna be the one to do some of the dirty work on kentucky fowler when here original has to dirt races that are abysmal and the one turf race where he went wire-to-wire adequate Over yielding course now on paper you know and if you look at raw time say yourself while he's just not as fast as kentucky kentucky. Farrell said his paces over that rock-hard gulfstream force source ran on a yielding course at accurate in the middle of the fall. I think originals. Plenty plenty fast. I got news view. I think if anybody upsets never surprised it's original but like you said. He's just his to speed figures. I used the racing form who by our numbers. You know. he's an omni fig over on the two figures they'd all have to improve leaps and bounds and he showed his versatility last time. Bobby from the seven hole kendrick kind of how to get over and then when nobody else went he just went on with it. i think. that's you know that's what you see in the ppc when twenty three and four to clear from the seven draw and then forty nine and one when basically nobody came to challenge he was just able to walk the dog on the front end so yeah he can come from off the pace. He has one of the best jockeys in the world to get horses off the patient ortiz. Junior you play in the early pick for you. Plan the early five at gulfstream. I think this is your this. Is your single. I can't get around. Never surprise getting the money and the great three kittens joy it goes race number four again and keep in mind too early post tomorrow at gulfstream park. That early post tomorrow would go from is eleven forty five so eleven forty five gulfstream in santa. Anita has early post both days this week. Twelve thirty pacific time so keep that in mind as well later on in the gulfstream park card. Last week there are a lot of two year old races a lot of three year old races dirt road races. Don't have as many this week now. Not all kinda made racist. That's what happens when they're loaded into one weekend. Obviously those were come back and more made in an allowance race later on stole a good car. The great three claiborne farm swell goes race number. Six seven furlongs out of the chute in. Yesteryear bobby newman. This was a big jumping off point for some of the best. Three year olds land. Yeah and this is a really intriguing race. I know it's just a field of six but the pay scenario and here makes us very interesting because the speed of the speed to me is number. Four poppies pride. Despite the fact he's four to one on the morning line. I don't like him even a little bit. There's other speed in the race number. Six by george was able to go wire to wire with air can sell aboard in his debut gets iran ortiz for the move down to south florida drain. The clock can be right up on or near the pace. I think pace is going to be honest. I was having a tough time deciding who i wanted to put on tap between number one likable number three ultimate badger who could be the longest shot in the field. I ended up with number one likable. I think he was just completely overmatched. After showing speed briefly in the breeders cup juvenile last time out by the way. Congratulations to essential quality. Who locked up champion. two year. Old honors lasta last night or thursday night of four with the eclipse awards but likable. Just really. He ran so poorly. It's a non effort his previous try when getting the maiden win at belmont park. I think is as good as anyone else in this field. And he's not going to be the favourite reunited with louis sayas. I think you'll be just in behind the pace and in a good position to go on with it. So i'll take likable on top to the interesting one is ultimate badger. I don't know what's happened to this horse. This was a horse who looked like he had a really bright future after his first four starts then he jumped into stakes competition. And i know he wasn't expected to do a lo- whole lot but he's done less than a whole lot. He's just been awful in the kentucky jockey club in the macho man. He's the one. I think could benefit the most from what this pace is. I don't know if he has these good races in him still but he's he's a newly turned three year old You know. I can't imagine that he stays off form for dale romans forever. Yeah he's interesting a huge hit. They could very well hit up front. I just feel like he might not be a gopher par kind horse with his running style He's gonna drop because they figure quick. And i think he's gonna drop far far out of industry left too much to do. I want the horses gonna come calling i and that's likable on the inside. And by george on the outside the christoph born is cooled off considerably. they had nowhere to go. Besides to slow down they were going at at a at a breakneck pace from the middle of june. All the way through the end of the academic meet so the cool off was to be understood and he's still hitting the war with a lot of runners. You wanna raise this sources outside all of the speed the light the problem with likeable. If any problem with likable is the that you. I worry a little bit. Anyway if speed socks to come back and he gets shuffled back on the inside. I know it's only feel the six but is likable. And by george from me. I couldn't split. If you made me make a top pick. It would be the six by george. What they're the two most logical horses in erie six goes as the claiborne farm. Swell a great three. Take a break. We'll come back. 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Oh one and streaming worldwide at horse racing radio dot net martin and you're listening to the horse racing radio network. This is the weekend stakes preview presented by nyerere bets back to third goes the rest or not of consequence with three quarters complete in one thirteen flap. They turned for home. The big favourite greatest honor tries to get dynamic got. I run on him. Greatest honor continues to close final sixteenth of a mile and greatest honor heads powered past inconvenienced around. The first turnout went anyway. Greatest honor impressive wins linked link to have dynamic. One was second another do friends third. They were well clear. Verb highway four in one. Forty three and four greatest. Donna your five to morning line. Favorite for the holy bull hall should mcgahey take down. Twenty twenty one renewal one of the steps on the road to the kentucky. Gary gulfstream park. Welcome back to the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bats here on h. r. n. 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Cbd tomorrow serious to nineteen xm to oh stream. It live tomorrow morning. Eight to eleven. am on your home. For ovation's biggest events at horse racing radio dot net back to gulfstream. Parked agreed three forward. Gal goes race number nine hundred thousand on the lines. The three year old fillies go seven furlongs to feel the eight zayas gel shadwell stable. Todd pletcher lewis sayas team up with his daughter. A street says she was unveiled. You don't see three to one on these fletcher. I go from too often. But she sat pounced and galloped home. She already one going the seven. That'd be plenty of people that would sign up for that seventy five right now including yours truly and she's very logically the one to beat. I think it's a to philly race between hell and the red hot competitive speed. Who is eight to one on the morning line. Competitive speed is actually won three races in a row against softer competition than what she's going to see tomorrow. But she's been beating those fields very very handily and i just think she's the only one who if xyzal isn't what we all expect zeile be. She's the she's the likely one to win. But zell she was so impressive in her debut. You touched on the fact that she's already one at this tough seven for a long distance. I like her post a little bit better than some of the other ones as well. Seventy five looks more like three to five and she's gonna be tough to beat now. This is dale romans. I think could be the upset. Are leaving traveler broke her maiden second time she just missed the misprint. First time she sprinted second time in one the this stretched out twice. She actually didn't run that badly in the rags-to-riches when she got beat two and a half lancs. She tried the winner on the turn. Just couldn't get past coach. Then the goldenrod. I think the goldenrod exposed this philly as far as going to distance because she could not have had a better trip in golden raji just did not fire. Maybe you can argue. They were just better horses but going you know the first time. She's two lengths from coach the next time. She's twelve links from coach. I i don't think she wants to go that far. I think this seven eighths hits right between the eyes. She had speech went wire-to-wire when she broke her maiden but she ran well from off the pace in both the rags-to-riches in an her debut. I think she's one that will benefit from From some of the other patient here can't imagine she'll be that far back. If anybody upsets it would be travel. I'm going to try and hit a cold. Seven six overlaid traveler reached number. Nine goes as the great three foreword galleries ten three swedish tenth three year. Old fillies take to the terror. Go flat mile field of eight going to post them here in. Lima is already a stakes winner. For trainer todd pletcher clip star at partners and others pokka lopez aboard when she got the ginger ruined gate to wire fashion last time over. Honey pants both back in here. Lots of attention being paid of number five white frost for belmont filling ran twice on dirt for looking real good taking a maiden especially in her turf debut at akron. There's a big difference between tomorrow's race in the sweetest chant and the ginger brew that only one last time out cohen. Lima was able to get the league very easily. Last time in factor last two starts on the turf. She's just made the lead really not going quickly at all on the gulfstream turf twenty-three and change forty seven and change on this of course that yields such quick times and she just cruise to wire-to-wire wins. I love honey pants against her last time. And honey pants second-best differences. I'm not even one hundred percent. Sure clinton lima's going to get the lead in the sweetest chant. Lioness britney looks like. She's gotta go. she's been getting to the league. Going five eighths and was pressing the pace going twenty three forty three into last time out and you also have number six domain expertise. Who's been showing a lot of speed. And her last two starts one at pimlico and wanna tampa and they're both outside of lima so at the at the least code lima's going to have company up there and company pressing her from the outer so i'm going to try to get her off the ticket. I think it's between white. Frost and honey pants. And i went to write white frost simply because i think she's going to benefit most from the hot early pace. She's also going to be a better price nine two on the morning line. I want fives and sixes. I won't white for us. You know i'm gonna make domain expertise my top. Pick chad around rumored to like this one ran into fellow Born meet editor at large and debut on closing day at saratoga. They ran really well. She came back in less than a month. She was on the lead in the selima tired over that yielding going over over a two month break. She was on a lead last time. We talked about this on race. Stay at the san antonio guy auto wins all his usual racism tampa but he's given some weird rides she dueled and she still one last time. I don't think this philly wants to be on the league. I don't know why she was not only to back. I don't know why she was on the lead last time. I guess he wanted to protect rail chooses better than those horses last time. I think this philly has a very high ceiling. I'm hoping domain expertise shows up. And you're going to catch tyler. Gaffney chad brown at a square price to going to bet kohima. They're going to bat. Honey pants back off one to finish the ginger brew. And there's a lot of steam around white frost and look. I'm using white frost and domain expertise on all of my multi-race wagers this is part of the rainbow. Six probably won't get involved in rainbow sex but lee pick four pick five tomorrow gulf from i will certainly be involved. I'm using both white frost domain expertise. I think the value in in in these sequences could come in this race. Because i think the horses that are the first two favorites are vulnerable. They're catching two horses now. In white frost and domain expertise that have a little bit more blue sky. I'm gonna try those two. I'll make domain expertise to top pick race number. Ten goes as the great three sweetest chant. Spend a extra time if we need to on this. Great three holy bull mile and a sixteenth. The derby points on the line with like to try to spend a little time on these races with the derby points. There's a field of nine entered in here quite frankly. There's not a lot of steaks experience in here positive stakes stakes experience. Anyway i know you have a winner in sitting on one the coy he came back. He wasn't very good in the breeders cup juvenile. But you don't hold that against them. My problem was he wasn't very good in the cage. Ac should he has that number seven. Greatest honor right. This is the race last year. That tis the law was in was independence hall against him last year as well coming off the the nashua and the and the jerome wins the independence independence while rand at tampa. Oh you're right. He ran he ran a tampa. But this is the race that that Tis the law was in there so far none of these look. Tis the law so far. I think it's between the two who are the morning line favorites. I'm shocked at prime factors not favored on the morning line. I can't imagine that he won't be favored over greatest honor. He just looks like a horse. Who would be favored. He's run once and won by almost nine links. Everything that's been written about this race has been written about prime factor. I haven't read anything about greatest honor coming into this race. Greatest honor took four starts finally get his maiden win Horse who fans ran second. Doom ran just fair last week in the will behind the horse who was third them another do they were well clear of everyone else. That day. the speed. I tell you the greatest honors going to have a big shot or just as much of a shot is prime factor. I would use both of them. I think prime factors going to be less than two to one in this race. And i don't think it's just those two. There are some other horses that are talented in here. I just don't know if they're going to be as talented as prime factor and greatest honor on saturday. Poppy to an awesome. Glory ran good races finishing second and third in the mutual macho man behind mujtaba beco- unfortunately Suffered a minor. Injury is off derby trail right now sitting on ongo. I don't know what to think of a. Maybe you're right. Maybe a one turn horse. Maybe he's just not as good as the essential qualities and keep me in mind of the world you know may maybe. This is a softer spot. dangerous on speed figures. But i i lean toward prime factor is my top choice. Especially if he's three to one as morning line suggests i would use greatest honor as well though right so prime factor for bobby He's taking the one that went six in the debut. Stretch out to the mile and a sixty remember short Short stretchy they use. The i finish line as well. So greatest honor is the one who has kind of racist himself into shape. A couple of sprints against a couple of nights bill maher two year old and olympiad in speakers corner last year went the mile and an eighth off. Those two seven furlong races got himself into a slugfest known agenda in in the lane And then again. Last time out got down there to gulfstream park and this is the worst who makes up ground. Ordinarily would not fit the profile of belmont for gulfstream park. Yet one anyway trip either. And he's the one that we not only seen have success around the through turn but he's by tap it. There's the the second dam it's all it's jazz and it's rags to riches there's all distance in this pedigree and obviously tap it who sired three belmont stakes winners. A couple of our ups. You know there's a lot of distance in this pedigree. You're asking the others to do something that greatest honor is already done. Can they do it. They absolutely can do it. They absolutely can do it. But i gotta i gotta side with what's tried and true already so i'm gonna pick greatest honor and yet it's not an easy race by any means i'm gonna pick greatest honor and here. I don't know how this boards shakeout now this to pleasures. They can choose from in here. I'm pretty sure one of the two top. Plus horses will be favored. I'm pretty sure of prime. Factor will be the favourite based on his a higher speed figure. He looked a little flashier. But i'll tell you what it took them a while to come to the racists. They only paid one hundred and ten thousand forum in the sale last year and took him a little bit of a while to come around. That was a big race going. Seven furlongs and to me of the to pleasures. He's the one that looks like more of a distance horse. I could be wrong here. He's the one that looks like more of a distance or so. I like greatest honor amusing amount. I'm going to use prime factor. There the three. I really make a case for any of the longer shots. And if you're if you're if you're a super affect the player maybe willie boy the number two. He was real good Last time out facing florida breads stalked. May the lead and then he grind it on the turn with a couple of rivals and then drew away from the my like when he's horses get themselves involved in in some action and get tested a little bit. He did last time. I don't know if he gonna wanna go if he's gonna want to go along with. It doesn't really have a great distance. But maybe he's the worst of hanging around for a peace. Junior alvarado is right as having a great neat down for him. So he's a long shot. But i'm gonna make the top pick greatest honor in race. Eleven the grade. Three holy bull. That wraps up the gulfstream action on the first half of the program. We'll take a break. We'll come back trip down. Oaklawn and out to santa anita from war action including the great three bob lewis which has ten more derby points on the line. The great race place listening to the weekend stakes preview presented by nyerere vets here on the horse racing radio network bet and watch the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with nyra. Sign up for nyra bets today and take advantage of from your perks with the best. Live racing minster replays in hd exclusive promotions and earn points on every. Sign up for nyra bets today with the promo code. 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Francs rock cat in the gallant bloom on our way came on for a second royal charlotte was third and the time was one minute sixteen. Second john embree call a gallon. Blue was all franks rock. Catchy tried the boys breeder's cup sprint. After that back to normal tomorrow at oaklawn she tries her hand back against the phillies in the american beauty. Welcome back to the weekend stakes preview presented by about your on. Hr and the big. And bobby newman had on hr. Hey head on over to naira pets.com to open an account the promo codes. Hr in two hundred bet you hundred gets you hundred. Ira bets dot com tomorrow. That twenty dollars to win on the last winter at aqueduct and twenty the last winter oaklawn get a twenty dollar bonus. Sunday bit fifty dollars each at oaklawn and acqueduct and get a ten dollar bonus win or lose all on the app all over at narrow bets dot com as across country. Pick five tomorrow. I'm not going to try to botch it again. Head over to nairobi. Bets dot com to get that sequence at all happens in less than an hour racists from oaklawn couple from ecuador race from tampa as well speaking of oakland the martha washington those as recent five three year old fillies flat mile short stretch of the mile. Run field of six joys rocket boy. She's been a nice one so far four for six in her career. She's worn on a sloppy main. Track the all weather up at woodbine. She's one on a fast track at keeneland. In the fairgrounds. She was fourth in the present behind day out of the office and eclipse award winner. V quest and a hard alone turf turfs to lincoln a quarter to a dynamite filling and toby's heart. She's done it all so far they're gonna ask to turns tomorrow for the first time. She draws the rails hall of famer steve asmussen and gets his main man or carlson. Hannah junior in the boot and she obviously has big shot in the race. The she's going to have to deal with number six sylvia q. in the early going sylvia q. Has never done anything but go straight to the lead in her three starts and she's run well in all three and that seems to be where joys rocket would wanna be specially since she's been showing speed in those sprint races could play into the hands of those coming from off the pace including number three coach. Maybe number four will secret. Who i'm gonna put on top will secret. Took a while to get going. But she looks to me like she's gotten better and better with each and every start finally got her maiden win going a mile and a sixteenth at the fairgrounds last time out. It was a race scheduled for the turf and moved over the main tracks. She was slightly favored that day but she won very easily won by three lengths. Despite being wide and both turns she made me last in the early going of the martha washington. But i think she's improving at the right time and i think the pace could help her. So although i think joys rocketing coach both have chances. I'll try will secret at six to one for the slight upset. I couldn't get past the two favorites. This starts delay. Pick five at oaklawn tomorrow. i'm using the trucks and i'm hoping joys rock cat you see i. I know that looks like there's other sweden here. None of them are close to as fast as joys rocket rocket. i just think santana's going to put her on a lead see how far she can take them You know she had a couple of slowish works since her fairgrounds victory last time out. Maybe steve's trying to get a to rate a little bit she's always she's never been the fastest workhorse for certainly on the racetrack and she flies. I'm gonna see if she can lead them to wanna marry chase her over coach. I'm the start of late. Pick five using the one joys rocket and the three coach joys rocket from me and raise five the martha washington later on in the caught in the form. I i said race number ten. They don't even have ten tomorrow. At oaklawn park race. Eight the american beauty this for the phillies and mayor's going six furlongs. And gotta figure she's going to be a heavy favorite franks rockets two to one francs. Rock cat is two to one on the morning. Line for hall of fame of belmont flora. Juru who is wintering at oaklawn for the first time has the call the speedy lady's island ships in for georgina. Baxter i can't imagine any of these phillies in. There's fast phillies in this race. I can't imagine any of them getting in front of a lady's island a lot of speed on here today. Tomorrow bobby lady's island naming challen amy's challenge very fast best kept secret figures to be right there as well sunny. Dale looks like she's gotta go. It's probably going to play right into the hands of france rock cat. Who although she has speed to be right there with them she shown in the past that she doesn't have to have the lead to run well in fact When she won the gallant bloom and the prior is at belmont and saratoga respectively. She came from a length and a half off of it let the speed phillies do the dirty work and then went on with that. And i think that's what flora jerus- going to do with this bill maher trainy tomorrow I think they were in a tough spot with franks rocket for the breeders cup. They were in a position where you know she needed to go. And either the fillion mayor sprint or the sprint and to be honest. I don't think she was quite good enough to beat any either of them. You know i. I don't know if they decided to go against the boys for the bigger purse or they were scared of gasoline. Turns out they should have been scared of amine because camin is probably just better as a sprinter than frank's rocket cat has been so far She was bet down probably lower than she should have been against the boys and the breeder's cup sprint and couldn't couldn't deal with the likes of whitmore and ceesay rocket and forensic far. She just didn't run her race. It's just one of those things she's had time offer. She's one well at oakland in the past. I think she's going to get the right trip and to be honest either of those races i mentioned last year in new york would be this field and i think it'd beat this field pretty easily so i think franks rock. Head is the right one and she'd be my pick five single the wow. She's the single. Yeah i mean. She's for me close to a signal. I'd like to see how it goes back. I'm gonna give you the horse. That i think is a little interesting in the another. Steve asmussen ricardo. Santana joris the number. Three magic nance started a couple of wins the two year old back in twenty nineteen copied and franks rock cat and then sporadically found her way back track trotter on a mile and a sixteenth over the scores back in march of last year. In the slop and run that well as the favourite came back in the dogwood in june at churchill. She didn't run that well gone. Another seven months. She came back and she fired and other racing incorporate fast number but she fired from just off the pace couple of the other time the dog which gotta soft involvement in a tougher speed duel. She's back that last race but like she was back at the very least pointed in the right direction. She's gonna get a lot of help on the front end in here. And i'd have to imagine she's one of the first ones to come calling. Look franks rocket shows up. She's gonna bury these sources and she's run well off breaks in the past so yeah she's probably single but if you bankroll allows you to get a little too little i with magic dance in But franks rocket looks tough race. Eight goes the american beauty out at santa. Anita san pascual goes race number five. It's a great two mile in eighth for the older horses just to feel the five here. Idle won a couple of allowance race made in recent and allowance. churchill did not get a. Id you got a great ride in the san antonio and got a half length and might have been best He's the nine to five morning line favorite right next door kingdom o- off a fourth place finish in the cigar his first efforts in the arkansas derby when he was second in the doll the tampa bay derby winner. He's two to one. The number four express train was four lengths behind charlatan in the one one. Happy malibu timeout. It's an intriguing race because the too long longest shots in this five horsfield are the to speed horses of the field specialty zestful but also number one tisza magician our good friend john white who makes the morning line at santa anita must have been confused in this race to make three horses either nine to five or two to one. I mean it's almost never see two horses at exactly two to one in a race. I think all things equal number four express train is where i want to have my money He was good enough to run. Second charlotte in the malibu He ran second to eight. Rings sprinting in his debut Back when eight rings was eight rings Between there he's come up with some nice efforts. Both riding and sprinting. And i think he's the one heading the right direction right now Juan hernandez is not a big name writer but he is winning a ton of races at santa anita right at about a twenty percent clips a writing about as good as anyone out there and i think he'll get a nice trip from a little bit off the pace walking yemo. The there was a great setup race last time the cigar mile. I also think this horse is another one where distance might be as friend to turns distance. I liked how he finished a. I thought it was arkansas. Derby was good I know we got a good setup in the tampa bay there but again he was growing away at the end. I think distances sources friend. I don't know if i can say that about the rest of them. You know going a mile and an eighth tis. His a magician ran well enough the mile and a half. But like you said you'd have to think zestful keep him company. I don't know if express train wants nine furlongs And quite frankly. I know i don't want a mile and three sixteenths at churchill downs but what did he really beat. He didn't eat much so i took him Race five goes is the sand squall later on the card race number seven. That's their derby. Prep the grade. Three bob lewis ten points on the line mile and a sixteenth at santa anita. This is an interesting race bob. You mentioned this yesterday on race day. bob baffert and doug o.'neil of one five of the last night kentucky derbies. They each have to entered in here and horse. That i've been a big fan of the number two rumba. Our is gonna make his three year old debut at some point. I'd like to see mike mccarthy. Get him out of california to run him. See for me. I'd love to see this one at the fairgrounds where we'd have an actual chance to use that league kick in the big stretch to win. It's just kinda hard for a horse like him in here. I always liked this horse. I'm not gonna make my topic because of that. I'm certainly going to use them whether land i think it's between medina spirit and hot rod charlie. I went with medina's spirit on top. Because i'm a believer in the horse. Who beat them. Life is good. They went a mile in one thirty six and three on track. That was labeled fast but it was anything but fast that day that time of one thirty six and three was more like a one thirty four and change. It was a really good effort. I don't really think he was ever gonna catch. Life is good. Even though he was only beaten three quarters of a length. Buddy was trying hard that day and he's drawn well in the robert b lewis. So i'm going to put medina spirit on top hot rod. Charlie simply put. He's getting better at the right time. This was a horse who the first three starts of his career. Two of them on turf. Were fair nothing. You know nothing to get too. Excited broke his maiden by a neck and his fourth start. Didn't look that great. He was almost one hundred to one in the breeders cup juvenile and somehow one the race and i don't know if the light is come on or doug o'neill is figured out something with hot rod charlie but the racy running ran in the breeders cup would absolutely be good enough to make a major player in the robert b lewis. None of his other four races would but he may just be a different horse now so nothing but one enforce from me with the one medina spirit. My preferred selection. I went to hot rod. Trolley here the blinkers really seem that. Turn this around That race last time you know it wasn't even like he wrote the road. The speed bias. He he mean he closed around him in essential quality move together and he almost held them off like you said that was a big effort and i think he's the one who probably has a little bit more tactical speed than some of the other than he had imagined doug o'neill's plans to have them surrounded. Wipe the slate coming. Out of the sprints. Go to lead. I would imagine that the medina spirit is a little faster this time around and a lot closer to the lead will what spielberg does from the outside. Draw parnelli shown speed. But he's probably not as fast as some of these others. I'm hoping hot rod. Charlie works out the trip. I would not be surprised from pick them up. I just think this is a horse. It's going to need not only more ground. But maybe get off these. you know. Get onto these bigger race tracks. Get onto the to get here to acworth. Get down to the fairgrounds. Get somewhere. Where that late kick could build but more potent. I'm a fan though. I think rahm bows a little bit of a sleeper. But i like hot rod. Charlie twin ray. Seven three bob lewis. We're gonna take one more break. Come back with a three sunday races to get through in about six minutes. You're listening to the weekend. Stakes preview presented by bats here on hr him and watch the races worldwide from the palm of your hand with nyra abets. Sign up for today and take advantage of from your perks with the best live racing. Minster replays in hd exclusive promotions and earn points on every. Bet sign up for nyra bets today with the promo code. Hr in two hundred and deposit match bonus one hundred dollars again nets hr in two hundred with nyra. Bet you can bet any track anywhere anytime head over to an ira. Beck's dot com sam. Houston race park. Welcome to back but twenty twenty one season. Fridays and saturdays san houston as a first post. I six forty five. Pm central if you like low takeout. Then sam houston is the bet for you. 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This is the weekend stakes preview presented by naira bets with the pros the quarter mile pole. Saron getty eppers has a race on our hands as here. Come street bad to the outside lady apple to the inside sarah getty efforts now for home at the top of the stretch street found out a set of the race track. My lady caroline lady apple at the rail eighth ago. Four of them across the racetrack. Sarah and restri- kerwood lady apple one a race lady apple. Es i get frisked lady apple gets up. Played is up a naked lady. Sarah getty up prefer second street bed and violating curling. In one minute forty four point one nine seconds chris griffin on the call last year houston ladies classic crystal during panel tomorrow on the three our brand new eight to eleven for the forum tomorrow. Present the by help network. Cd crystal join mike. Corey lanteri trainers mike mccarthy and doug o'neill thank you my brain a fried for a minute there to eleven tomorrow morning here on the network. They'll run the john connally turf cup. The houston's lady classic tomorrow we'll get to those two in just a minute. First thing on sunday rather jimmy wingfield goes as the featured race on sunday at the big field of six to go seven furlongs entry of hello hot. Rod and scotch rocks. They're they're. They're an entry because of the marriage of mccarthy in in katy davis Rule new york that married couples must be coupled in the in the wagering so We lose betting interest here. There are seven five favorite. I gotta tell you. I don't know if i like either of them now. I think this is one of the most difficult racist to handicap. Even though it's not a big field. I ended up picking return. The rings three to one on the morning line simply be put. He's run once he went wire-to-wire. It was a very impressive effort. I think he's going to be up either. Honor pressing the pace again. Horsey last time out. Subsidized came back in one in his next start. And i don't really see any reason this eddie. Barker trainee can't be better second time than he was in his debut. He looks as good as anyone else to me. So three to one a decent price and these faster than the rest of the sources I can't blame you. I love burn. I like the way burns to racist blinkers wolf. He's nine a ghost. I think it's going to be okay. I what he beat a decent the field last time. i don't think he needs to be on a waiver. I think it'll be just offer. Return the ring. I'm all about wavering. On on sunday race eight goes as jimmy wingfield so bunch of stakes down at sam houston post time. One forty five central time for the special sunday ten race. Car down in Down in sam houston bunch of stakes races. Like i said. We'll cover the two graded stakes and they houston ladies. Classic goes as race number eight mile sixteenth. The main track great three three hundred thousand on the line lady apple defending champs actually hasn't won since that houston's leads classic she's lost six consecutive starts at five different racetracks. Us try turf. She's time but maybe she'll enjoy a return. She's a millionaire already six time winner. Maybe she'll enjoy a return down to sam houston triska ships in for fausto theaters He's gonna ride this philly gallup poem in the rampart last time a three to two. She won the great three shoe via at saratoga. Last summer She's developed a little bit of a pattern. Nobody since she made her way here to the. Us via mexico followed that classical koreb back in twenty nineteen win loss. Win loss win law. I mean it's it's it's literally win-loss win loss for last nine stocks. She may just be better than this field. But the problem is is that some of those losses. She's getting clear leads. And just caving in it's not. Yeah she's getting pressure and she has excuses so i respect her. I would certainly use her. I'm picking against her. Three zhai is where. I wanna be. Just because i'm hoping lotrowska her out races and not one of her in races on sunday. Looks like she's really improving for mike maker of late. Love the way she ran close. You know staying on going a mile and an eighth in the ladies at aquidneck last time out. Her previous try winning an allowance at akwa duck against high level allowance. Type cl- runners. I think it was very very good. And if lotrowska does not run one of her good races. I think who is the logical one to beat. Steve asks was also has motion emotion in him. He's in a run for the first time. richard baltas had previously. She got beat eight and three quarter length of season when last seen in the personal incident saratoga. Miguel man is in for the ride. She's been working locally at sam. Houston so she's which steve's String down there. Half a dozen breezes since the middle of december which is going to go to the lead i think this village in a second and affliction runs one of her bad races. One of out outrages. She's gonna be the first one to inheritor. I'm not too convinced Lay the apple is in just time to be a mommy. I see what you're saying. What what she's making the ship. She only one two weeks ago. I'm gonna try motion to motion to to upset this mildly here motion motion for me race. Number eight goes to the houston ladies classic train. A mike maker is gonna look for his eighth. That's right eighth. Jami connally turf cup rate three mile and a half georgia thousand online. It goes race number nine. I'm picking against him. i think. Number ten spooky channel has just been facing so much better competition than what. He's going to see on sunday when he's not running against horses like zulu alpha instilled regarding. L'argent he wins. He's not facing those horses on sunday. I know he's not going to have trouble with the distance. He's already wanted the distance in the past. And i think this spot is just right up his alley spooky channel five to two on the morning line. I don't think they're going to beat them right spooky channel. I think that mike maker gets his victory. And i think it's going to be with the horse. Who will likely be the longest shot of the three mike maker horses and ours was being used as a bit of a rabbit for cross-border when people thought it would be the other way around this summer saratoga and the day was the rabbit in the bowling green. He got two and a quarter lengths. By sadler's roy cross water. An island sky came back in a bog. No good had a break came back up off synthetic turf turf way park. No good marzel from just off the pace album for mike maker upset special marzo from me. I'm news touch revenge as well should be the speed race nine goes as the great three john connally turf cup again. One forty five central time special post for that special sunday car all thirteen in the books time now for the naira bets best bet. This is the naira beds. Best that they get away. Bobby can a screw around with this one going to the fourth race on saturday at gulfstream park. The grade three kittens joy nine to five on the morning. Line for never surprised. I'd be very surprised if he's nine to five but he's going to win. Yeah i was thinking about Going in the same direction. But i am going to wait for sunday and i'm going to head over to the big. The jimmy winfield way. Burn jimmy jerkins jose scandal. I think he takes down the sunday feature way. Burn from me adequate. Optima jimmy field on sunday ray. Job is always my friend. We'll do it again. Wednesday for race day looking forward to that. Have a good weekend. My buddy you too. All right bobby newman philippine on the big anthrax we all reminder. Three hour forum starts tomorrow. It's presented tomorrow by help. 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ZBT #244: Kate Receives An Award From The VFW + Congressman Will Hurd

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ZBT #244: Kate Receives An Award From The VFW + Congressman Will Hurd

"One two three one two three two itself Pat do. Oh It's a Friday edition here on Zero Block thirty. We're in Washington DC and today. We have four rounds in the magazine. Round number one. We're going to a little bit of a recap because we went to a vfw event. Last night where. Kate received an award. We're going to tell you about that. She also had to give an impromptu speech. I was super proud of her because she had to follow somebody. That was in the top fifty of American idol. Who Sang a rousing? Rendition of God bless America. She also followed a congressman who was super motivating Anna senator and then she had to get up there last. I felt bad for her but she crushed it. You're going to hear that round number two pita those baby back bitches are up in arms. Because of an animal that has no arms are wrote him a tongue twister. All right round number two pitas up in arms over an animal that has no arms that our armed forces are eating when they hold it in their arms over their heads to drink their blood. Say That five times fast. No Kate I will not round number thirty. We're going to interview congressman. We'll her he's from my neck of the woods. A Little San Antonio goofing from a guy that was in the CIA. You're GonNa hear about his stories from India and Afghanistan and how he is going to be moving on from Congress after this term is over and finally round number four thick with to see soldiers are strong now according to a new study. And that's great news for the ladies out there who have a little bit of beef. They want the soldiers beef up a little bit. Kate wrote that one. I just want everybody to know today. Part allowed to say fat bitches. Be Strong soldiers. Let's get started with the show is brought to you by which is a to. C's third is what she's the only the most respectful way to say which is what I always do. Whatever I'm saying bitches I'm not using it derogatory. I'm using it as an intern of endearment. That's what I called all my marines whether they be male or female herds off is GonNa love this intro. They're not conservatives. They're going to be fine with it anyway. He's he's there's GonNa be a butcher so anyways they show's brought to you by the Barstool sports store people have been asking for Newsday. Bt GEAR THAT COMES OUT. Today we have the pirate dog that you all love and love so much. He's going to be wearing a little bit of Kevlar he's not going to be holding them like it's. Damn Easter egg basket go to the bar. Sports Store Sergio blog thirty you could see. Our hoodies are short sleeve. Hoodies hats on all kinds of stuff. Just go buy a bunch of gear and say zero. Block thirty cents. You would appreciate that. Let's get started with the show. Read One all right so the reason we are in DC this time it's not just because we have the interviews and we love to sit down with congressmen congresswomen. Because they're doing. So many things for the veteran veterans out there in the military and actively being involved one of the most important part for me of having a platform like this is to try to instill a little bit of our ideas and if we can not lobby but if we can say certain things to impressionable. People people who have Are in a position of authority and leadership. I think that helps like the we are the common man and woman voice of the military and we can go and speak to these people. We definitely want to take that on. We got the chance to do that last night whenever we came to the VFW event here in Washington D. C. Where K? You are honored with an award. What was that called? Yeah so what was the VFW annual legislative conference here in DC and it's really unique They've been doing it since. Nineteen forty nine and it gives them the opportunity so leaders from vfw from each state. They all gather here and they get to personally lobby their respective lawmakers so whatever the big deal for veterans is in their state specifically they kind of get to tailor it and go talk to their and kind of pitch them. Hey representative. Here's things. That veterans are really dealing with in your state. How can we help fix it? And then it ends when the commander in chief testifies on Capitol Hill before the House and Senate Veterans Affairs. Kennedy's energy for the VFW VFW. I'm sorry yeah Yes yes But so they get you know kind of have an end of the day in front of these big committees So it ends with a special joint hearing of the House and Senate Veterans Affairs and so they really get to have voice and get to speak so it was really nice at the end. They have this little Gala kind of thing and that was last night and they were kind enough to invite me down for the Lima Charlie loud and clear award for being an influencer and essentially. What they're saying is that you know. Thanks Zero Block thirty. I get to work in supporting a greater understanding of our military veterans through this podcast which is an awesome thing so I got to rub it in chops his face. You created the podcast. I'll take the award Jay. We'll talk about it in that context. Yeah but not only that whenever they introduced Kate. You're going to hear it in a second. But whenever they introduced kate they said Purple Heart recipient from the battle of margin in Afghanistan. Unbelievable Game A. Kate got an additional ward on top of this award because they the people before me were such impressive amazing people right and they have their BIOS Ryan. You're like Oh my God. How impressive and I was like mine is GonNa Sound so stupid but then they say jazz a little Bit Action. Therefore you yeah. How'd that make you feel when you heard purple? Took my breath away for a second. Because what do you do? How do you handle that job? You'll see the clip whenever it comes out the social club but we're both like we both like super awkward. Because I knew I knew in that moment like her first thing that she's going to have to do is correct. The record room people that I am not a privilege because I feel like Oh. Wow Wow did you really take the air out of the room? When you went up there and said that you'll just have to find out what's actually listen to enough to introduce the recipient of issues. The W Lima Charlie Award in the influence division. Kate manion leaving in the midst of completing her college degree with one semester remaining to become one of the viewing proud a United States marine this Banyan a purple heart recipient with injured during her employment to Mars Afghanistan in twenty ten after completing Marine Corps career and wanting to pursue her love for comedy. She worked at the National League playing daily show on comedy central case. Love of writing led her to Barstool sports where they wanted her to join the military podcast. Zero Block thirty. She started out doing social media for the podcast to get her foot in the door. Now she hosts zero thirty with chaps another marine and cons. A former army officer aid prides herself on the fact that while not serving in uniform. She still serves by using her talents with and on the microphone for many readers and listeners. This awarded is extremely important to us because it recognizes an individual group Organization for outstanding work using communication channel disseminating information supporting promoting and advocating a greater understanding of our military veterans and war the undying principles of our American way of life. Please join me. In welcoming the recipient of the twenty twenty vfw leaving Charlie Award or the influence or division eight were so loud and clear award influence or division in Citation Order Today Man Zero Block. Thirty in recognition in grateful appreciation advised media reporting in nationally acclaimed five deaths. Zero Lot heard that is widely popular for focusing on current events military history veterans issues in the importance of vendor standing mental and behavioral health concerns the PODCAST and it's all Iraqi F Afghanistan War Veterans. Who use their platform to connect with broad audience? Shows live side of being a we have Iran to set our hands and the official seal of the Veterans of Foreign Wars. The United States is or they are twenty twenty three by the National Council of Ministration side. Leave Doc Smith. She Kevin Jones Gentle. Well I can't sing at all but I do jazz unions for whatever that's worth good luck. Jackson's marines and jazz peanut butter and Jelly Right. That's given I do have to clarify so thankful wherever wrote that beautiful right up I am not purple heart recipient but I will still accept all your free drinks in the bar afterwards. I still take a lot so please send my. I also want to shout out to all the women in the room. There's so many incredible battery. Want to keep my shoulders back proud of my service when you don't always feel welcome as a woman. Veteran was the other women around me. The women who came before me and service and just went out there and ruined doing amazing things. I see a ton of them in the room tonight and it makes you a little bit taller. So very very grateful. Amazing out there and also to chaps. Komo's to start at zero thirty five years long verbal heart that I was still in the evening so he will also be sending free he after the record. I was a little bit. Lost wasn't quite sure what to do and I found myself working. Where the seventy sixers plant in Philadelphia doing concessions and there's nothing worse than Philadelphian feels like. They've been short on their Cheese Cup. So I've been tough. Spot didn't want to do and chaps down me. He knew that I was fellow marine. He lost his leg and now I have the drought of my dreams. I'm doing my love are of the best parts is that I get to share my military experience and their instable beings but were the best things about Zero Block. Thirty S that we get to share all the funny wonderful wonderful things about it. The friendship One of our favorite topics we asked what smell reminds me most of the military and the answers that we I can't even say some of Air Force officers part of service is the connections and the friendships that you've made and I think that's one of the best things about the VFW as well. I look around the room and I see people who are clearly clearly so close to one another and who loved each other out and we have people a place to do that through their headphones. Just people a place to do that physically and I think that is so important and I hope that our podcast we can talk about it and get people more excited tuna to do both so we are something sponsorships. We will thank you so much. It's truly an honor and everybody thank you so much. Yeah so I had zero idea that I was going to have to give. A speech was not prepared about other people had like notes. They were ready to especially the woman that went before me but I had literally nothing on my mind so I went up there and just word vomited but it was from the heart. I try at the end. I just started. I was like okay. You're talking. I don't know what I was saying kind of blacked out a little bit but yeah it was really really nice and I met afterwards. So many great veterans as like everywhere you turn. The after party is my favorite part. Yeah it just getting to chat people up and here for veterans from Hawaii Montana and all the different states and got invited to go elk hunting and we got invited to go elk hunting and all sorts of things. But that's a big deal all goes into going BELCO. Yeah as we learned. You don't just like go out on a random day and look for an elk. It's a very big process. That's very nice. You got the invite but the best part was just speaking with the women that were there because I think the vfw is. I know for a long time. I felt intimidated to go to one because it was like the feeling when I started golfing a little bit. I was afraid to go to a golf course by myself. I'm new I'm the only woman here I don't know but there was. There was a group of women there and they were wonderful and you know they don't shy away from saying yeah. It's something that it has been working on for a while and it's getting better and better and the one of the ways you can make it better is by joining and getting other women to join instead of shying away from it. These women really embraced it and became leaders in their local. Vfw's and are making a point to be unapologetic in their service. And what they did. And I'm here to my voice matters. You join lifelock joined. Yeah they got me in the ladies garment. Roz Coast Guard veteran super bad ass Trailblazer and all sorts of different ways. On the pot yes. She was awesome. She try well she did. She got she pulled the thing right out of her pocket. She's like here. This is long super easy to sign up and it's just so really excited to have made some great connections and they were just so kind and also the crabcakes our producer brand eight about fifteen of them. And he's like Vince Vaughn and by bad diarrhea Capitol Hill Laura. Anyway let's move on to you round number. Two is something that I never got to do while I was in the Marine Corps. And it's something that I always wanted to do. I did go to the Jungle Warfare Training Center in Okinawa Japan. I never got to do Cobra. Gold which is something that I really regret. I think I would have loved doing it because anything that PITA GETS UPSET. About I want to do is not super into hunting but if pita said you will never hunt. I will go by gun. Just want to spite him. Despite those mother I hate fucking side with chaps. Here the worst. Yeah I L- I like animals by all accounts and their malls chaps dog handler. They go too far in the opposite direction and shame people. If they don't follow their eggs bitch he agreed with them. I think they should leave. Punks Itani Phil alone anyways Cobra. Gold is the yeah. That's what everybody told me after I did that Cobra. Gold is an annual multinational military exercise hosted by the United States Thailand in Thailand. So this ten day exercise has been going on for a long time now and part of it involves serve jungle survival which eight pretty. It's not light and fluffy it's crazy thing pussyfooting around either. They're like getting after and so the photos that come out of that every year every year around this time when they do it all these photos come out in the news of our marines with their mouths wide open with a snake with its head cut off in their drinking snake look like. Riley retailers listeners. Please do not google that Google. I mean it's just them. From Joseph Did slurred Stars and Stripes. Cutting the heads off cobras and pouring. Their blood into the mouths of marines does not sit well with at least two constituencies cobras number one the other. I don't love it and to pita. Peter wrote the Marine Corps Commandant General David. Berger there probably isn't as Burger first of all they probably hate that General Veggie Burger. Yeah they probably do on Wednesday Black Bean. They were objecting. The crude killing of animals during the Cobra. Gold Twenty twenty military exercise the letter from Shalin Gala Pedo. Vp of the international laboratory methods sites that the British newspaper Daily Mail posted a bunch of photos that got them very upset. Seeing these photos marines killed chickens with their bare hands skin and eat live. Geckos consume live Scorpions and tarantulas and decapitate cobras and drink. Their blood was part of the very angry letter sent to Burger. It's a good thing that she doesn't just hang out in a smoke. Pit with Marines. Who literally will eat a Lizard for twenty bucks? Ninety three. Yeah media said anything about you eating anything I'll do it. Don't don't you dare me. Don't you double dare me? But yes they sent this letter The only one that I really have an issue with was sending a letter is the killing a chicken with your bare hands. I feel like that's a little much for your right Chicken Cobra this is my stance my official stance on snakes. Okay if it is a poisonous snake. Kill it automatically. I think all poisonous snakes should go extinct trust in their beady little eyes We all know Satan took the form of a snake so I'm against all snakes. Wow and also say if you're snake person you're a Weirdo. I completely agree. Yeah anybody at snake out on. I went in the House in Fort Bragg and the couple had three children three young daughters and they were all in one room one bedroom you know military housing small In the other room he was like in this bedroom for my snakes. He had a room for his name. Eggs Laurel and was like. Yeah the girls love to watch I come in here and they love to watch them eat the mice and I was like. Oh my God. He's you're reading serial killer. That was very weird weird trip. I was on my marine buddies that was in it was Christie. Has who was killed in Afghanistan. He was a big time snake. Guy And their hobbies like poisonous snake- in Japan and he brought one into the kitchen in Okinawa. Wherever we would get all the the dog food and everything like that I had only been on Okinawa for maybe maybe six months maybe a year something like that and he brought it in and it was him. It was another corporal that was with him Donaldson and they came into the thing with the Habu snake and I knew immediately. It was a hobby. Snake 'cause they put it on there and I had a sidearm. I had a pistol on my leg because I was the explosive driver that day. I was like listen. You guys can take to approach me with that snake. I I might pull my weapon here. Like don't like you're trying to attack me with the poison legitimately. I might have to shoot you. Donaldson I would freak out. I will say though. I'm a sucker for traditions especially ones that have a primitive aspect to them. Yeah so I'm all about this move by them. Rates cutting the snake and drinking the blood. I know that makes me sound like a meathead and maybe a little bit like Neanderthal. But there's just something about it. I just find that like it's cool because you know that everyone else who came before you that they did it to your kind of part of this. I'd love to do the training now. I just don't I don't know what I just Ono. I've read the fillet. Why do we have to do it guys? Why do we have to kill these snakes? What like okay. You can show me a powerpoint honestly this those appointed I if I'm ever lost in the jungle and I'm super hungry. I will kill us. Nager a chicken. I don't need to do it. It's getting pepper sprayed after. I got pepper sprayed. I was like that was unnecessary. You just had to tell me that it hurts real bad and to fight through it like you didn't have to do it to me you know. Just how many snakes are we talking like if you have a whole tapping marines for instance if we talked marines calm and you have. Let's say six cobras. I think that's worth it. This is how corona viruses get started people. No that's Fried Bat Yeah stopping so you're out on it. Would you eat a Scorpion? Yeah would you eat a Gerbil? No that feels. It's too much for sure snake. Gerbil what if I made you a Gerbil hush puppy but I think in the Navy hamsters for dinner the Court. I'm blue balls. Open up the corner on blue. It's chicken with a Gerbil on the inside wiser cedar chips in here. Well you don't WanNa know Gerbils Ben. It's true gerbils. They're Richard here. Richard Gere Big Gerbil back. The back of the school bus rumors. Wow what an all right. We're GONNA move on from that. We're going to transition into our interview with the congressman after talking about gerbils on the ass years Congressman Willard ridiculous before we get into the actual interview. We had a little bit of technical difficulties. So whenever you hear cons and Kate during the the interview. It's going to be a little bit muffled ignore that act like it's pristine quality and whatever you do don't tweet at at. Radio Brand chirp about the audio quality cheers about ethics. That about eighty. O'brien knows he's going to be on fire watts before we would get to the end of the interview. Here's the congressman from San Antonio the class. My favorite part is actually my favorite part. Yeah we Ashley. That's a lot of practice. Two hundred fifty times a practice of doing that. We know we're going to have a good show. Flap exactly the same time she usually says hot. But let's go whenever we get going today. We are down and the capital again. We're in DC because we're going to be interviewing a congressman from my neck of the woods. He's a San Antonio Guy born and raised he represents the twenty third congressional district in Texas. It is the biggest well second biggest district in the United States huge. If you've never been there it takes ten and a half hours to drive across. I WANNA start off the show because I am a guy from San Antonio. I am a guy that lives near. Hello to where you are the place that I buy my process venison shutdown shots meat market. Can you do anything for me? Congressman We we were open up a complaint and work on that. You're not the only one you're not the only one it's terrible it is and the shots are actually a good family. From from that area. I went to high school really one of them I. If he's not in the staple I mean. They have some of the best sausage in the gang. Believable Theresa's great for decades to they've they've been doing this for decades but since I'm not I'm not just in your neck of the woods. I am your congressman. I'm pretty sure no I think Castro's me is he. Yeah we do 'cause I know because I voted. I take care of all San Antonio. Yeah well he's not doing a lot for me because the whole thing shots me Martin. Obviously we're we're we're on. We're on the case you've been in Congress for a little while now and I think one people that know your story and they they watch the news you have been an up and comer in the Republican Party for a while and people identified you as somebody who might be running for President. Twenty twenty four so when you came out and said that you were running for Re Election. I think sent shockwaves especially throughout Texas. Because I envisioned you as a guy that was going to be an office for a long time. How difficult was that decision for you to not run again. What it actually wasn't a difficult decision. And just because you're not in office doesn't mean you're not gonNA stay involved and engaged in and help communities and you know. I I was in the CIA for nine and a Half Years Right. That was undercover officer. Best job on the planet. I was doing the back alleys at four o'clock in the morning collecting intelligence on our homeland. And don't worry listeners. We're GONNA get into that but it was. It was a great job but I left that job a job. I love the job. I was good at because I thought I can help the intelligence community a different way. And that's why I ran for Congress and so for me wild. I've enjoyed working in a holding one of the toughest seats in the country Working and and giving level of constituent service that this district hasn't seen in a really long time am I think I can help the country in a different way and so so the decision was simple and I actually don't believe you have to be in these positions forever? I I think they weren't not designed to be in there for thirty years. And so you don't have to die or depot be defeated to leave Congress and so Do this the right way. You have a shelf life and even when I first ran I I ran in two thousand ten in loss I said you have like six seven eight years and so I'm still going to stay involved I still for me. Trying to help rebuild and remake the Republican Party because whether you're Republican or Democrat or independent you need to have two strong parties and have a competition of ideas in November right rather than in the primaries which which which were like eighty five percent of the of the districts are the district of the dishes are decided you as you transition third around San Antonio there was a big sign going up for hurts meat market off breaking news America Breaking News and Shredded Intrepid Journalism Putting down the voter picking up the butcher knife as they always do move now so I will do something in the private sector right You know whether it's being on boards in technology and as an intersection of technology national security. I'll do something in the media as as well and and be able to continue to talk about things like technology and national security do something academia and helping build like an institute on Technology and policy. We need the next thirty years. The ten in innovation within the next thirty years is GONNA make the last thirty years look insignificant and we have to be ready to take advantage of technology before it takes advantage of us. And what I've seen up here. Legislators staff regulators understand that so keep working on those issues and then politically continue to to help can across the country. Eighty five percent of congressional districts are decided in the primary. And and you know let. Let's take Congresswoman Akhazia Cortez Twenty. Five thousand. People vote in that first primary. She got fifteen thousand votes. Won One by five thousand when I was student body President at Texas Am. I got seventeen thousand votes right. And that's that's not unique a lot. A lot of districts are that way or just being the mayor of South Bend and he only got eight thousand votes and next thing you know he's running for president he's only got eight thousand votes his life. Look a good friend of mine was literally just talking about this The the other day in so look. I know something about winning tough primaries. I know something that winning tough elections and my philosophy is this you govern up here in Washington. Dc The way you won your election right and so if we're able to help Some of these really good candidates like Wesley Hunt in Houston. Who's awesome just one? Six one percent vote earlier this week. Tony Gonzalez who I'm supporting To to for for my seat helping some of those folks you're going to change how decisions get made up here. So those are those four buckets of things that are going to be involved in. If it was left up to me I would have had everything sorted out before I made my announcement but but because of ethics rules up here in Congress I literally can't have. Nobody's following those. Now come on you know because see we used to get in trouble when we'd have these congressional interviews where we didn't push back enough. I'm going to push back that got flooding. So here's here's here's what's funny one of the things you learn by passing a national security background check right. I can say up until my time in the I have a pretty clean record or I imagine in the You have to have a clean record. And then the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has spent probably about forty million dollars over the last five years. Probing me and so I if you alone me alone. Look my election last cycle in two thousand eighteen. I think it was a thirty seven. Thirty eight million dollar race. That's both sides combined. That super PACs right so everything I do is inspected and so I've learned. Follow the rules cross every cross every T. dot every I so so literally. You can't have conversations about this in for a little context where people that don't follow Texas or National Politics that much. That was a huge race because that was beto versus crews and there was a lot of down trickled from the ballot from the Senate side that went down in your district to bet though was super popular. El Paso and I represent one of three districts. Republican is in that Hillary Clinton won in two thousand sixteen right in this cycle. You HAVE THIRTY ONE. Democrats in seats that Donald Trump one and only three Republicans and seats that Hillary Clinton won so so my district or twenty third disc. Texas is always. It always went back and forth back and forth between Republican Democrat every cycle. I'm the first to hold it in three cycles in over a decade let's hop over to some CIA stuff. Because I think for me knowing as Marine. We have a soldier here army captain. So whenever we think about deployments we know when our listeners know that whenever you go to Iraq or Afghanistan basically for the last twenty years you have a big war machine already in place you know that what the structure is going to be if your Land Corp. You're listening to your corporals and sergeants if you're private you're listening to your sardines as well. I see a officer whenever you get on the ground in an area like Pakistan or Afghanistan. What are those first days? Look like for you a first days is all about area familiarization right and so because I know one of my jobs. The what we call street craft is going to be meeting assets. These are people these are foreigners that are giving US secrets to help us. Better understand some already sound sexier than anything I've ever done. Ah Ed so so to do that. You have to do surveillance detection around right. And so depending on where you are. It's basically Spending you know three to nine to twenty hours in in the pens. What's what city you're in making sure you don't have surveillance and only way you can do that. Well is to know the surround is. Does that street actually go through to another street Is this something where my car will fit through and I was there in in the in age. It's funny I'm like dating myself. It's like pre Google maps right. So you have to do this old school with an actual map you know and and go out and case and so you first couple of days is really just understanding. I can walk into this market and come out the other side or if I do have surveillance this they will have to follow me in here because they can lose me and so that's that's literally step one step two. You're you're looking at. What is just a second before we dat seeing. You said it so nonchalantly your heart must be fluttering whenever you're going to do these case studies into the new head to Queens a neighborhood in a story where there's millions of muffin shops around. They're having you go into pretty rough neighborhoods and you're by yourself right. You aren't. Let's my first tours India. I was in India for two years based in New Delhi but travel all over the country and you have a senior case officer that kind of works with you and will maybe take you on that first that first day be like. Here's a good market. Stay away from that. One you know terrorist lists there. You know that kind of that kind of stuff and but in the end you're by yourself right We don't have necessarily an extremist element When I was in Afghanistan I will I was the actual only ca officer. That can go outside the wire by myself and and so we did have our own extremist element there in in a place like Afghanistan and then we can call in the military if we did. But you know that calls take. That's going to take awhile. I actually remember reading article about that about you where I think somebody said that the only two Americans were outside the wire by themselves. Where you and Bo Bergdahl. No no no I was involved in a couple of of helping folks that got kidnapped right but but yeah that's funny. I hadn't seen that low so I was senior. I was our senior undercover officer on the ground and then I handled a couple of sensitive cases that required a different profile. And and also look when you're operating somewhere along enough the other the bad guys are looking at you. And they're going to be like these are the kinds of cars they drive this is the footprint that they create and so part of our job is always be sneaky and sometimes when you roll heavy It's it paints a picture I like. I I still to this day. I hate like when I go on on Congressional delegation overseas. There's two police chase cars and there's one behind me and I'm just like put me in. I know put me in a freaking taxi right. You know and and I'll be fine but but yeah so so. That was an important part of the job because one of the things that frustrates me about movies about the CIA. Is you see a acts like assets? The individuals that are giving. New Secrets are expendable. It's like so far from the from the truth. My job was to protect that individual and protect that individual's family. There would be times that I knew one of my assets could answer a question but just by him asking some of those questions or trying to put would put him in such dangerous position that you're not GonNa do it right and so so all. The things that you do is built around securing that relationship and making sure that person was was saved so it was it was it was a cool gig. Ingratiate yourself be spoke survival so cute so your cover right so my I was a political officer at the State Department right and I guess what I actually did like. I think I still hold the record for the most State Department cables written by a CIA officer. And so you had your your your day job right And that's just one part of like. Sometimes I would joke and say I think I can say this Jokes like my light. Cia cover. I used to have a business card that And it was literally it was literally the golds the Golden Eagle on the seal. It's almost cards. And just my name will and sometimes oprah like hand that and maybe like the number depending on what I get. 'cause 'cause sometimes guess what rare right if somebody is looking to try to talk to somebody from the CIA. They kind of need to need to know. And you can. You can pick that up so part of when you're all business. New Business already recruited asset. That's where you use street craft right You're trying to find somebody. New like What is the plans and intentions of this organization? You have to find people that have access. And then when you find the person that has access And you start developing them. You try to understand what would be their motivations. Potentially work with you and so it's a long process of basically becoming friends is a is a lot of finesse finesse. And and it's really two different kinds of you know recruiting new spies and handling SP- Existing spies S- actually to two different Methodologies and practice and experience but both of those are equally important shirt somewhat of an imposing figure and blend in a bigger person doesn't matter now it was so it depends right so my my skin complexion. I I I can. I can blend in almost anywhere When I was in Pakistan I wore beard I would use the beard. I would craft beer different in different places because sometimes I may want to look more like an Egyptian and you narrow it down to a point a little bit more cleaner on your cheeks or a little bit bigger and when I was in Afghanistan let it grow up. I grow my hair out in dot product in it. You know Anywhere local clothes and my early was good enough that when I was wearing a shower. Camis had beard. I'd get the locals discounted the bizarre so every everybody. Everybody wanted to come by rugs with me. When when they're the discount there or the ten percent at Lowe's equally equally leave as as good right ten percent lows. It's Pretty. It's pretty good so you obviously dealt with some stressful situations being in Afghanistan. Being outside the wire by yourself. Did you feel like that served you? Well whenever you're in high profile visibility like being involved in the president's impeachment and being able to ask those questions and almost being able to calm your mind because you've been in worse situations my my threshold for stress is is different right because You know if someone is not dying or about to Die Right. I. You'RE NOT GONNA GET. I'm not going to get get worked up right. And so that experience was was absolutely critical You've learned in you. Learn to to look at one of the best things being Congress's what is truth right and that was my job in the agency and part of it was to collect information from many different people and so doing that up here in Washington to understand this and and in the end when you recognize that you know these are some important decisions that have ramifications but having previous you know been involved in high stress environments you have a different perspective and I would watch and I would laugh because during you'd see a lot of the question are so angry and then it would be like all right now. It's will hurt turning black first of all. I WANNA thank you for coming in today. You would take it down what you do for. The country is absolutely invaluable. We appreciate your time today like the the other person sitting there like I look like an ASS A. We'll look what I have learned even if you're trying to get to talk to someone one on one nobody else's watching or whether millions of people are watching on TV. You need to make the other person who's talking to feel comfortable right and this absolutely no reason to i. Think for the theatrics. I'll be honest. I've lost my cool a couple of times just because I felt like I was. I was being lied to. And so that happens but but in the end in those hearings. I'm literally trying to get information and I have five miniature. Ted would be the worst off from school is son of a bitch. My Dad is but also going to do the work beforehand right right and do the research. I've read your transcript from the hearing before right and also if five minutes right so I have five minutes to try to get some enough information for me to make a major decision end so being calm and cool is kind of. I think people appreciate that to be honest so so you mentioned earlier rebuilding the Republican Party for you. What does that look like? So the three largest growing groups of voters communities of Color Suburban Women with a college degree and people under the age of twenty nine the Republican brand with those who groups voters is terrible. And you can go back to to Ronald Reagan in eighty and eighty four and then George H W Bush in. They won the under twenty nine vote by thirty points. When I first read that stat as gotta be wrong they meant to say it's they got thirty kids freedom lane and in so so we have to take a conservative message to to to different communities. And I've been doing that for the last five and a half years. I'm Eagle Pass. The community on the border ninety two percent Latino Ninety seven percent Democrat. First Time I win was a was an afternoon party and everybody was like. Why were you here in literally? Two hundred people asking that question and my answer's 'cause I like a drink beer and eat barbecue to and people were like okay. In the second time I showed up people would shake my hand. Third Time I showed up. People would ask me a question. Four time I showed up. I'd answer it right. And so part of this is discussed engage folks and and ultimately. I'm a Republican. Because I believe the way you saw. Problems is by empowering people not the government. I believe with the way you move people up the economic ladder through free markets not socialism and what I've learned representing the truly fair. Deputy district is is independence and Democrats believe the same things and so so we need people that are willing to talk about those kinds of issues rather than demagogue on on some of these other things in so Finding other folks like that is is is important and I think it goes back to the way you know the the the United States of America. We're we're facing some generational defining challenges and the only way we're going to solve. These challenges is by doing it together. This concept of unified government where you had to have the same party and the Presidency the Senate and the House that this is really this notion as premier for the nineteen years. You can't solve problems that way because you may only have that for two years and the next year someone's GonNa try to dismantle everything done so you have to do things and solve problems together and we have to do that now because we are in a race. We are an geopolitical struggle with China. And we have to get our act together and that requires folks up here in Washington. Dc that want us all even when you have the all three branches of the government on the same side. We saw it with Obama and we saw with President trump. You still don't get the things done that you want to. And there's really no excuse at that point so if you look at Obama one signature thing done when he had the entire government. That was a obamacare big deal. Don't give me a significant thing. And under president trump it was tax tax reform right out of all the other things that were discussed. You're able only get one thing done. And the reality is there's way more agreement on on issues then than most folks will realize but but the reason. I also think a lot of things. Don't get done here. Is You win elections by creating contrast so if you want my creating contrast what do you always do create contrast Right but but my district is one of those unique ones where I get rewarded for solving problems. Now it's not easy and and it's a legit purple district to one hundred percent right. Hillary Clinton wanted by four points. Better Award Ted Cruz in this district by five points right and I continue. I continue to win now by last election. I won by nine hundred thirty one votes nine hundred thirty more votes than I needed. And so I'm good but but yeah so so so so I wish if I had a magic wand I'd make more districts fifty fifty or near fifty fifty And and that would force the competition of ideas that happened in November. There you go. We like to close out our congressional interviews with a little bit of a speed round. Kate has some speed rounds. Overprepared ready so I can only one answer one okay. Speed round used very loosely. Gotcha Congress named the most interesting back. You know top of your head that my snapple. You're in a bar useless interesting back to the most. I feel the pressure to answer quit. I'm on if you're going to and and and look. Yeah so I honestly. My team will get mad that. I said this but like when I was like fourteen or fifteen. I was a puppeteer wasn't at Church. Well my mother made puppets for a woman who would like do birthday present birthday parties and things like that and then she needed someone puppet voice. Well I didn't. I just showed emotion through motion. Okay I know but honestly I I think the most interesting things that people are the people of the stories and the fact that I spent. You know almost ten years Doing that for sure. At low there are still ongoing operations that I was involved in and help start That that happened right. And what what I love about this. This is way off you ask. The original question was what's it like on the first time they're getting there so I was twenty four years old. I ended up going doing this thing that ended up in me delivering a million dollars in the in Indian rupees To something that Who I was only person that I had met right. That was real responsibility. Real Authority that you get you know in four years old easy. Hey respect to speed round Kate Benneteau. Yeah we we're in a meeting last night in which the VFW National Conference and we heard that you are a big fuck guy. Who's you know we've got to launch? Someone talked yeah. Yeah Mason. Mason was launching an investigation being more than Seventeen magazine. Antonio drove together across the country to get back to these seeing facebook and all that better driver. Oh I am by far right. We got into this debate like it was actually the most offensive thing. He told me on that ride. We saw it was. It was thirty five hour trip thirty for thirty four hours in the car at twenty nine thirty one hours in the car. Twenty nine hours live streamed right. We talked this was right before the debate on on repeal and replace healthcare the most offensive thing he told me was he's like I can change a tire faster than you and I'm like no. You can't literally was had trained in Afghanistan to change a tire where people are shooting right. And then he's like you probably can't slide on top of the car and I was like his name for a little bit and so you know what we need to go back to the skater so I slide over the car like David Hasselhoff on Kitt Knight Rider and better literally filled out. You know so. So yes I'm away. That's probably that's probably what costumes. Race driver After the Buzzer for the next question speed around water. I'll see that's pandering. That's that's what's better better. That is so enter into the taxes audience. I thought you were above that. What would be better? I mean honestly McDonald is better than come on. Chick-fil-a yeah chick-fil-a if it's not Sunday chick-fil-a I will say this there frosted coffee at chick-fil-a is fantastic. I think it's trash. Who Are you? Kindly leave kindly? Dare you sir dare you to all of your listeners out there. I don't know how you put up with this kind of a lot of our listeners. Really big there veterans. They're they've put on some pounds off the Naval Academy. Yeah obviously people don't realize am was was originally all compulsory military academy up until like the sixties and we still in more officers than Almost as much as as the Military Academies Company Next Year Old Man. I am not topic. Put my honestly when we when we when we get done here. I'm going to review the classified documents associated with. Trust me I I. I'm pretty sure I'm going to say that. These things need to be made aware. But you know it's it's nobody everybody we should after nineteen years of war We should all be for China's solve the issues there but act like the Taliban is a reasonable partner. And when you have when you have a Arab a media talking about how this is a victory for the Taliban For all the other blood sweat and tears that have been spent To me it's it's horrific Elon by the way the Taliban has to denounce al Qaeda and Terrorism. Right it anyway. I noticed the speed round. I'm sorry he hit on a topic. Yeah topic here. There's a big traffic jam and help you need to get your vote. Scooter walk like I'm so so I have never. Yeah yeah so I'm not I have not done. I have not done the scooter. Oh these bars you know. I've done some high performance driving. You know I've done some some some quartering at high speeds right Threshold breaking a few times. Because there's so much folks here but yeah it's necessary and last thing. Can we issue out a challenge to president trump and whoever the eventual nominee from the Democratic Party? Whether it'd be sanders or Biden at this point won't they will do across the country and livestream it like you. That would that would be amazing. Owns I'll let water burger. Yeah Yeah so so so so bets. I had talked about doing a congressional cannonball run where where you had to get a and Democrat in the car and you raise from San Antonio to Washington DC. But how amazing would that way better debate? That'd be a way better the debate than any of the debates that would that would decide the presidency Yeah and looking at least at this because everybody gets to choose which vehicle right they get to choose the music right. They get to choose the how they're driving. We pass bills like if say you you have it connected to Congress to. Let's get some bipartisan bills. Through and get it done and as soon as you pass a bill then you move onto the next topic this up some power. I think you know what time of this mark this day down in history beginning to realize you made a mistake in not endorsing me for your seat. What is there so time? No I? Don't think congressman. Thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Hopefully I'll be back soon for sure. Please clap even if you don't agree with somebody politically like it's no secret that. I'm on the other side of aisle from will heard I like coming to DC and talking to people because you get their perspective a little bit more like going in and speak to them in their office and seeing them and how they actually care about the country and they care about their ideals. They're passionate about it and just coming from a different perspective. I think it's something there is something to be said for that you. You see congressman on C. Span. You see you read a press release. You don't get the human aspect of all these individuals and when you get a chance to sit down with them one on one or three on one. It's just a much more humanizing way of getting to know that person and with the two interviews that we did today very specifically with will heard who dated. Somebody would go to the high school that my daughter goes to now. I mean. Obviously it was a long time ago. He's happily married now. But he's from San Antonio and then we went to another one. Who's from Jacksonville dislike? I am same type of careers like went on to join the military went onto join the CIA. It just. It does show you that anyone in America with Mike Waltz. Growing up poor and his mom not having a lot of money and raising them. Basically on his own he went to the and became a green beret. Became lieutenant colonel. Now he's in Congress will her didn't grow up with much either. Now he's a he's a congressman and doing great things you really can rise to the highest level in our society by doing hard work and going out there and getting after it and you have to be a very special person who obviously not everybody can be will hurt her. Mike Waltz but it is refreshing to see people care even if their opinions from yours are different. Yeah and another thing. I'm going to take a slightly different direction here. Every time I come down here I don't know much about government. What's happening down here? I've I've whatever anyway. The first thing that came down here I was like you could just like walk into a representative's office talk to Him and talk to their staff. I was shocked that you can do that. And everybody's like yeah. Everybody knows that that's thing it's been always been a thing to know that. So now I delight and being able to just it's like it's like a box of chocolates. Where every chocolate is a state. And you don't know what's going to be in there and I love just seeing a flag flag seeing state and just opening the door and being like hello and so today I was just opening doors. Some guy named Steve. Excuse me can I help you? Ma'am so I was just opening doors your stuff and seeing because every single officers like the back office where the Congress was not annoying at all nor was long time was drawn out there at all. I would leave them in the hallway. Go into these offices of these representatives. I didn't see if they Republican Democrat. Didn't care all I wanted to see. Was What kind of candy they had on their welcome or snacks in general or General because almost every office has a welcoming once you go through the door to their office and if you visit DC go on in all you have to do is go through security. I thought like Oh you're hungry and you forgot your pointless literally anything. It's like a costco so I up representative will hurt who you just heard on the interview. A big thing of starbursts all whole Bushel skittles. Al Toys very polite and hand sanitizer in these Corona Virus Times. A very nice layout read did point out. There was no red starbursts in the mix. Kind of weird. That's all right. We'll allow it up next. I went into representative Ralph Norman again. No Idea Republican Democrat who knows of South Carolina. Impossible to know with a very fancy K. coverage information very fancy K. Cup trae. That looked like it was on a pineapple of logs. A peanut been. They had literally been that you could pull out those. Just like Texas roadhouse and then later which Republican from South Carolina just to bring it peanuts and eat them. Throw it down on the floor during the interview and then they're like well. It's not food but we also got this big old peach and I was like bringing out. There brought out this giant beach for me to hold my hand. Yeah I have a picture with it and then everyone knows. South Carolina took about ten minutes. They were just okay hostile demand. They were just kind then. I went into new office Representative and my wanting to go in there after you came out. Yeah this was a good one and McLean custer that representative of New Hampshire Chocolate Mousse. You're thinking it's in a bowl. Oh no no no. It's a literal chocolate Mousse with the antlers and everything on a stick a chocolate Mousse on stand. You just crushed crushed it. I ate literally right before we start this podcast. I couldn't believe it. I thought it can't possibly get better than this. We're doing all five hundred eighteen literally my favorite size the interviews. This is like my favorite thing representative. Paul Mitchell of Michigan. I was thinking. Maybe he'll have some hair products in there. No all they had a couple of small boxes of lame. Oh cereal. Hey if you're listening. Paul Mitchell together Michigan Mop Palmer for Alabama. I don't even know the full representatives name it was just. I walked into Alabama peanuts. More peanuts again. I said real original guys. It might be five thirty four check in with okay. Just there's a lot of them checked. Why Anyway Florida Representative Michael Waltz? We also interviewed Florida. Of course they had a huge fridge full of ice cold orange juice which was a delight and they also had peanuts again. I mean just before we work our way down. Can we just be done with wait? I got one more got one more fun. I thought I can't possibly get any better than what I've already seen. I had a backpack full treats at this point From going door to door I go into Las Vegas to well Nevada and I say this is going to be a fucking wild card. I was right. I go in there. Chocolate covered oreos with the state SEAL ON VANILLA ICING EMBLAZONED. But wait. There's more God Nevada shaped candy dishes with edible rocks inside of it and then baggies of chocolate covered wheat. Whatever I don't even know what it is. They look like beautiful jewels that you can eat says made in Nevada. I don't know what it means. Congratulations Vodka and representative mark and Moody. You are the champion this time. Oh so that's the state of the day. That's the stay officially. Btc of the day. Nevada I I mentioned this to you. I would like to issue any representative from the State of New Jersey. If you could have Taylor Hannigan cheese or pork and cheese. Call what you will sandwiches at the ready. Next time we come. Yeah please be prepared for our visit. I just love that if you ever visit. Dc If you're listening coming here on a trip or something go to your representatives office and they don't have good snacks demand it you deserve better clean When I was more offensive than the Gerbils in the but like my I just really enjoyed it all right. Let's move on around four talk about some thick ladies round number four in the military height and weight standards are tricky thing. Because yes. There's a general kind of rule for this stuff but everybody is really different. So there's the Marine Corps. It's the neck measurements if your neck if you don't make weight right and your neck is within standards or whatever they come up with all these weird when everyone's so different. It's kind of hard to come up with a mold that everyone's supposed to fit in and especially for women in the military. We do have a little more fat on our bodies in certain areas and we do store fat differently and all sorts of stuff like that money way. Good News News. Sorry Abuse Female Army trainees female soldiers who are taller and Heavier. Such as carrying sandbags better. They're more competitive counterparts chocolate. Mousse noise of the same sex suggesting that the army should consider amending. Its physical standards for women so ladies. If you're backing on the bounce keep going you're going to be able to carry a shutdown of sandbags. There's plenty of ladies at Lackland that our way out of you gentlemen as well but they compared to three hundred sixty. Two women soldiers trainees. They found that those with a higher. Bmi Body Mass index performed way better in so called common soldiering tasks that requires strength and Power. Such as marching with heavy packs. Dragging casualties and a couple of things are so and again the sandbox. But having a little meat on your bones I feel like especially for women. The standards were really tough. Like in the Marine Court. I there was times where I was like. I felt the fittest of my life and I felt like I was getting towards the top where I'd have to. It's almost annoying though because it's pretty. It's almost like this is common sense. You telling me the bigger stronger. Individuals will be able to do more chaotic. All right. This is probably unnecessary. Military style tea for the Marine Corps was always bullshit. Yeah I mean it was easy whenever I joined I was like one hundred fifty one hundred and sixty pounds so do twenty pull ups for me was easy whenever you had somebody. That would be much stronger than I was at could bench way more squat way more but there's no way that they could do twenty pull ups because they weighed two hundred and five pounds and what. You're dying to tell everyone own right now. Oh thank you for asking cons due to my -Tarian Diet. I'm actually down to one. Ninety seven and people were making lots of comments about how slim I looked but anyway because I feel like a lot of times people. Are they get in trouble or they're excluded from even serving because of their body type when actually they could really kick ass but but I think this is a slippery slope like I think. Be Like oh come on big one great. Hey you guys allowed me to do some soldierly types. Yes but you can be a little bit football players well. Yeah we're comparing apples and oranges. Do we really want to have a machine gun? It looks like Vince Wells for gas. We do do you imagine no. Do you want Willie Cologne and your platoon. You you bet your ass I do Willie you WANNA be. You WANNA have a Humvee with five Willie colognes in there. You're in just feels like it'd be more protected with five local. Owns Five Louis Colognes. If there's five twenty five zero one's getting out. He's not getting out of a Humvee as twenty fives. I haven't thought about that long time. That's a great point. Let's pop out five twenty five. I'm all good. I mean we had Alejandro Way. You have one of those guys in your platoon. Now don't get me wrong. If you said there'd be four dudes that look like me and cons or all three of us get into a Humvee and then we can throw Willie Cologne in the Turret. That's intimidated sure. That's super intimidating. Or just like having somebody come in breakdown doors look like Willie. I think that that's very intimidating. But whenever you're going I love Willie but doing long distance entrance into an area on foot like ten mile insert now might be a little difficult. He can do it. And he carries seven other soldiers in the process and as I actually don't doubt that was probably a terrible example because he's a freak of we're talking about a former professional athlete. I was at my biggest which was now when ninety seven before I was to thirty two to bring that up whenever I was at my biggest and Willie would give me a hug. I would feel like a tiny little infant baby. Yeah like a tiny little gerbil inside Richard but tacit call him and say about that game. I like that. Maybe they're considering looking at more than just the Cookie Cutter Standard for women and saying Oh. Let's be smart about it. Yeah I think that's great. I mean that's a great point to have because if you do have these skinny little folks like even me. I used to always think in my head when I was like. You look like a board marine. You do all these things. If I had to go at certain points in my career and carry heavy shit for a long period of time I was like skin and bones for a lot of it. And that's when the Marine Corps is like you. Look fantastic right. You have a thirty two inch waist. It's not always the healthiest thing. Chicken legs aren't really helping us in there. Yeah no that's true. Still Not Helping. My legs stink. They deal all right. Let's move on to some safe routes and alibis. I Apologize For the last round K. I can tell you know. I think he's just hollow apology apology. I should've I appreciate that. We were doing a little chevy chase in and around number four. Oh okay I I love it rounds. Alibis we'll start with you. Cons what are you got so you know. I'm looking at the photos at K. Would you like to go first? Actually listening you are beautiful you are. You are wonderful and I don't care if you're got a little extra handle mandal or lady'll whatever you labia okay gotTa Fat. Labia can't say don't say okay. We'll we'll we'll cut that out but seriously I would do anything about that meals. I think that that is as equal. Opportunity is yes. That's very can't be a super chubby dude or Super Chubby lady in his defense. Like when you know this from my world tillery world. I don't. I don't need like little do little people who can't lift very very heavy artillery rounds. I need big beefy guys. He's our unit of all people go. We're really running short mantis like five minutes walking man anyway. All right we are all over town so we have a congress person. Yeah I think we have to go the because we refrain a little bit here and so I was. I was looking at photos from from last night's event and I'll I'm gonNA exclude Brent just because I didn't see a picture of what Brennan was wearing. I'm sure you look Nice but you guys you both looked great and that really and chapter is really happy to see. You could button your suit jacket right. Make it look like that button with screaming which that's great but same suit by the way. Wow so that's a really. That's that's that's a big win for you so that gave me a lot of hope. I was like Oh keats in a nice dress chapters in a suit that fits properly. We're going to go to Capitol Hill tomorrow. And I don't have to worry that we're going to walk around. And things might look a little weird. And then we come. Today and kate has a goodwill jacket on chaps wearing a shirt that appears like he pulled it out from his bag without irony. I did iron it. Maybe you need to go back to your marines and have them teach you how to iron better. I was just very. Hopefully you'd be in a suit today. Wrinklies shoulder pad power blazer that I wear every time I'm here it's bright red. It says the bitches ballot you also whenever we are walking. You're like I can't believe nobody. Jackets hilarious literally check about inches short on my arms so I don't know joking but nobody ever says here's the thing. I don't know much about female fashion. But if you like. That's not like a wild thing that the sleeves would be shorter. I've got shoulder pads six insurance lease blaby retro the nineties coming back yeah honestly almost poked fun at it and then in the one office. I was in there was an older woman and she was going look city exact saved off and I'm like the probably whenever but anyway I just threw it over address. That doesn't make any sense so I did feel a little basic thing that we look like trash bags around if we could. We could look a little more professional. But that's just me bean fashion. You were a tie with elephants on it because we were interviewing to Republicans today you say no one sees that they keep Farraj Rocher the chocolate comey. Yeah Yeah Okay Anyway. Okay have anything to say about. This is us or you watch was on hiatus this week. Actually it'll be back on the next couple of weeks. I'm sure we'll be flowing again. Okay Kate I just every time I come down here. It almost wrist. Because you see on the news and everything and you're like our so fucked and then every time I come down here and walk the halls and go in the different offices whatever side. They're on Kinda restores faith a little bit as like they're saying you all you see in the news is the bad stuff shady stuff the wacky stuff and you don't see the greater percentage is that there are people who are good who are serving us. Who really are doing good things and trying to do actually care who actually care and And so it always kind of restores my faith a little bit enough coming down here and seeing it in person. I've slow just really. I always love down here which you'll hear. Hopefully you'll hear next week with Representative Waltz when he was talking about helping the gold star families. That's not something that makes the news. But it has significant impact on our veteran community. And it's such a great thing and also just if you if you're a staffer working in one of these offices up up the game. Yeah seriously. We're watching out of there with a little more. Hey Michigan looking at you and your lame cereal boxes. I know Kellogg's and whatnot but fix yourself. Wow all right I guess me. I'm GONNA about fire. Watch I fire watch. I hate to be a C. Brand yes see down to do all the recording stuff. Both interviews had sound issues. He knows that he's going to figure out both of these machines while he's on fire watch but I'm not going to give him a terrible shift. Just do it from Let's say twenty eight hundred two zero two zero. I don't watch therefore picks tonight I. I'm not that big of a deal. Just like six shifts a fire watch I am going to also give myself fire watch Because last night while we were at the VFW event. Am I had in my phone? I only have one alarm that set on my phone ever. It's because my older daughter. She has not been doing her homework like she shouldn alarm set for seven o'clock nineteen hundred for you military types every single night that it goes off. Kelsey bring down her computer. Pull up all of her grades online. Show me that. She has no missing no missing assignments. Nothing below an eighty and if she does then she gets to go and hang out with their friends have sleepovers or whatever right and if she doesn't keep that up for a week then she doesn't get to do all those things little incentive based training for my older daughter but at seven o'clock last night in nineteen hundred. My phone started to vibrate. I'm away from my family so I'm not thinking about that. Kate asks me. She's like she leans in and says. I'm looking at my. I'm looking at the people around me. This alarm has been going on for like over thirty seconds. And it's in the middle quiet room during a speech about like in a senator talking about older. Marie in the room who was in waste sitting bring in. Kate Leans forward to me and she's like h APPs. Is that your phone like trying to be really polite about it? Indignantly guy new like absolutely not and I was like offended that shoot even suggest that I would be that person. I was that person. I reached down to touch my phone. Felt it shaking and I was like mother of God. How did I not feel this and I pull it out? Turn it off immediately. I turn around to where I was like. I'll give myself fire that. Yeah that's it that's non integrity constantly something from that so for that I have fire watch from zero four zero five nine s watcher for tonight. I learned how to Hire No. I already know how great I look. Great well show the video people can see. This is at the end of a long day. Let's see what time on deck is. Time on deck is fifteen hundred on the dot. We've already done multiple interviews road and multiple cab rides. Look at look at him. He's off Asti. You are wrinkled shit. It's unbelievable all over. I never rankles shorter right. That's it for the show. Thanks for joining. We'll have Mike Waltz next week Until then sound the retreat

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