4 Burst results for "Antonio Giovinazzi"
Box of Neutrals
"antonio giovinazzi" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"Fact that he said it's a realistic knowing the rumor is that he could be going to Mercedes that it's a realistic thing that he might become a reserve driver there. Makes me think it must be possible. Now he could become reserved on it elsewhere theoretically Ferrari is also a top team and who is their reserve driver, Antonio giovinazzi, maybe not so exciting, all he's doing some tests this year, maybe could be on the grid next year, but it's pretty unlikely. And then Robert Schwartzman, who I don't think is racing anything this year. And he's still a junior driver, hasn't raced four months. And maybe it could be that you've heard it here first, the rumor could be fry, or even wackier, maybe he'll become reserved by her Red Bull. Can you bloody imagine that? That'll be hilarious. A Mercedes Mercedes is the rumor is that the French media have reported that these in deep talks with Mercedes as well. And it would still be really weird. It would still be so uncomfortable. But the aim is that if Lewis Hamilton retire or theoretically if George Russell would leave, but I think that's going to happen. If Lewis Hamilton were to retire, and the only situation I could see that happening is to be wins the championship next year. Then he might suddenly be the front of the queue, but Lewis has already talked about going for 5 more years. He can't be reserve driver for 5 years. And if he's not going to go to Mercedes, pretty much your only teams with seats next year available are the same ones that have them available this year. So it's a huge role of the dice at the moment that I think, unless you know something we don't, which could be very well possible, has way more risk than the chance of paying off, in my opinion. Yeah, that's true. And he's turned down IndyCar formula a NASCAR. He doesn't want to do any of that because he wants a happy sight on F one. And let's face it, there is precedence. We have quite frankly, if Nico hulkenberg is in talk for a third stint in Formula One. And surely Daniel Ricciardo can one day be that conversation. Kimi Räikkönen had to come back Fernando Alonso had a comeback. It's possible. It's entirely possible. And remember, roster dramas earlier in the year said, a sabbatical might actually do him some good. So I'm still of the belief that, you know, one of these daisy bay yet end up back in Formula One in some kind of capacity. This may be it for him. So I'm hoping because I think it would be a shame for his career to end in the way that it has done. So far. There are two things I think that can happen here. I don't think he's going to, he could end up in Mercedes reserve driver. I'm not rolling that out, but I don't think he's going to end up in the 80s in 2024. I just think it's too unlikely. If that's the case, the only other three seats are off the top of my head Haas, Sauber, Williams again, all of those things in rather. House with him Salva tower, that's not going to happen. So get rid of that forget about avatar. I can understand the logic of not taking a seat at Alfa Romeo's now. We'll be saddled by the end of next year, or maybe Adi. We'll be out eventually. We're pretty sure. Or has this year, because both have been, I mean, has been very inconsistent with you. They have their highs have been really good, but some races they rock up and they absolutely know where. See how this started really strongly and has been slipping down as other teams have caught up. As distinct from when he signed up for McLaren in particular, made it sort of a bit of a win made it without being able to go to the factory because we were going to think of COVID. No one sounded a weird, maybe that's too extreme, but it couldn't go to see the factory because of COVID, sort of had to make the promise the commitment based on promises didn't even get to really drive the Renault car he was going to drive that year to know whether it was bad or good turned out it was actually probably better than he was expecting. These are the complete opposite scenario, is that he's not going to jump into a heart and he said this quite open and he's not going to just sign the first thing in front of him as perhaps in brackets you could say like he did with McLaren. Based on the form this year, but by giving himself another year, he can say, well, we'll ask actually consolidate and become with well, because then I can understand that American connection does kind of make sense. Or does Salva continue to consolidate? Because if he would assign theoretically a three year deal from 2024, the last year of that deal would be as the Addy works team, which suddenly wow, what a win that seems like, plus there will be investment over the course of years. So I can kind of understand the idea that now he's swung in the opposite direction, give himself a year. I think both Haas and Seattle or Alfa Romeo Audi would probably go for him still even after you were out like he's still such a big brand. Correct. So I can see that working out, but that bottom line is that he's still going backwards in the grid, almost certainly. After 2024 and that's sort of the concerning thing. Yeah. Yeah. He may yet miss the boat. And there's also the F two backlog as well. So Daniel Ricciardo, he's very lucky that he knows how to be chief of optimism. Telecommunications company that I have to now change my driver's Los number four. And he's wide in basketball interest. On Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and the others. 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The Autosport Podcast
"antonio giovinazzi" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"I wrote a column on the FIO and how they really didn't handle Austria well, and they actually tweeted once during that weekend and it's been forgotten about since this VAR thing is up and running. It's a room in Geneva and basically it's purposes. And I think the direct quote is to give an extra data stream and that's it. So it's not here to influence, but that's ludicrous, but I want to go back and actually Martin forgive me for doing this, but I don't think you read up the most important thing in the statement from the FIA. Nevertheless, we took into count the wet conditions in the difficulties highlighted by pros as mitigate circumstances. Obviously, derivation of the word mitigation. And so the reason it's so frustrating is that I understand Eduardo freight tests and shares FIA being French. English isn't their first language. I'm a journalist. I'm particularly precious about the way certain language is used, but they're saying mitigating circumstances. It is serious. This is exceptional, and then the previous paragraph is we do not accept the conditions were serious or made it an exception that Perez couldn't control. So it's one or the other, and you know, to go back to the stewards now, what we're expecting, it's nothing new that we've now had in the past 18 races. We've had three race directors and two operating. This is what you get, you get, you get inconsistency, and then you look at this specific infringement right, which is the ten safety car links. So it was I think Mathieu bonato said, are we fully expect it to be a 5 second penalty? Because Antonio giovinazzi got one in 2020, which is fine, but in Vettel in Canada didn't get one for the same infringement because I think they said he closed up by the end of safety car period. That's fine. And basically loads of other drivers today. That was exactly it, wasn't it? Back in June, the FIA said, we've looked at the evidence. We looked at the GPS, Vettel and the safety car fell back more than ten car lengths from the car. He was following, but then reclosed the gap and maintained the ten car lengths until the race resumed. The stewards also noted that there were other drivers who did the same thing, therefore, no harm no foul. This is me being a bit flip, but going, oh, there's that means there's a lot of work to assess who's done what, so let's leave it. And that's not a penalty, but if you're just slam dunk codified rule, then you fall foul of it or you don't. So if Perez gets a penalty, fine, but then Vettel has to, and all the other drivers. You go on, it's like, you know, I'm a massive football fan. I will never complain about VAR taking three and a half minutes to decide a penalty. If it's two and a half hours for a race for something that is a rule break, or it's not, it's not like, you know, doing those 2D lines on a 3D shape to find out someone's shoelaces offside. This is a lot more clear cut. And when you're imposing to race, what do you expect, of course, you're going to get inconsistency, let's play, but I just can not find them. And I think maybe I'm adding one and one and getting 5 here, whatever. But there's look at context. The FIA, yes, we all and the wider audience of F one thinks are a bit of a shambles at the minute for how they've come back after Abu Dhabi and whatever. It's also not just us. It's their relationship with F one, which is an all time low. And if I could take one point, D F one calendar for 2023, F one's works are, you know, it's got Vegas and Saudi Arabian Qatar. Where do you agree with any of those races? It's F one success story. The FIA announced it with the 2023 calendar, they jumped the gun. So if you look actually on the timed stamps on Twitter, it took F one 92 minutes to get a statement from domenico to announce their own calendar because the FIA jumped it, jumped the gun. Because the relationship is so poor now. There's infighting and they're going around each other just to try and one up each other and look better in the public domain. So you've got that. So we're at a point where it's like focus fees are spec war between them and that's not hyperbole. I think if you were to stick a neat whisky down Stephanie de Medicare and let him go off the record, the stuff he would say at the minute is superheated. So this is doing nothing to help the public perception or what is going on between the comms department of the FI and F one. And again, without going too far, but whether it's okay, there's been a new change of president since Jean Todd into MBS, but the outright defense of their own decision making, and I understand as well like justice said, we don't have team principles barking on the radio. But what Massey like him or hate him, what he used to do after every single race, no matter the pressure he used to front up to meet her and go, I will now talk through my decision process or I'll speak on behalf of the stuarts, obviously got different things there. The FIA don't do that anymore. And you can argue that's good. It's less of a distraction. But now there's just no transparency. So we can sit here and I can go up an octave because I'm a bit angry about it. And whatever, but we don't have there right to reply, we get we don't we don't have that transparent process. And so when you've got the president and his tact and the statements he's been given to the media and he isn't particularly popular, we as fans and commentators on sport, then the teams or your investors, your commercial partners, whatever. Where's the faith coming from? Because it's really baffling. The process is slow and inconsistent. Okay, fine, take two and a half hours by the letter of the law, which you can argue they have done in this case, but then what does that say, you know, the aforementioned case study of Vettel or the fact that they contradict themselves in their own definition and outcome, which is fantastic. Or if you're going to be inconsistent, at least be quick. So that Martin Brundle and Paul diresta can argue both sides of it on Sky Sports F one. We've had neither. This is the worst outcome. It's just like the FIA okay, you've had a new boss now and you've had time to settle in. But it would be, again, it would be fine if, okay, the decision making and the outcomes were bad, but now you've got this like school ground politics where, oh, I'm going to announce your calendar an hour and a half before you, which is unplanned, but we get a leg up. What Zach Brown would call, it's a horrible phrase, but the optics of it always is really bad. I'm talking of optics. What could the FIA
Box of Neutrals
"antonio giovinazzi" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"He doesn't have the same high per se Oscar pierce who does in terms of so a year or two or three Williams isn't the worst thing in the world for him. So I don't think he's going to be sing out on much. So at least he's in the system and then you know he can grow and develop and he could be like the Daniel Ricciardo sort of effect where he was good in the junior formulae but F one. It was the category that clicked for him really at least when he was a Red Bull drive. So it could be, yeah, it could be the right place for our time for old Jack, so that would be someone who really, you know, in terms of it's always nice to have two Aussies on the grid. Would be nice to have three. Let's not get gravy, though, because yeah, that could be, that could be 2024. Well, let's just start with two for now. I mean, we're at the moment, we really only got one. It's one in one out. It's like a clock. Like a really awful club. So we don't know what's going to happen. But it would be interesting for Jack because Williams is still keen on Logan sergeant. If you can't race next year, they want him to race the following year, assuming he has a good F two season, maybe even wins the thing. Yeah. So then that would maybe mean Jack's there on a one year deal. The question mark then is over who Alpine actually gets, it's a weakened situation. I don't know if you sort of feel the same way, but on the one hand it feels like they actually isn't that much talent out there to feel safe. You got a couple of two guys. Yeah. You've got your other random character like Nick to raise a sort of inserted himself here and that's pretty good. But then like we're still talking about Nico hulkenberg, who don't get me wrong, had a great career, but had a great career. It's happened. It's finished, but we're still talking about drivers like that. Even Antonio giovinazzi, who I liked and think he actually deserved a bit of a longer opportunity, but you know, it's not like he was making such a great case that he absolutely should be back on the Formula One grid either. So on the one hand, you sort of got a weak field, but on the other hand, if you did have someone like Jack do and rock up at Williams, there's every chance you might only get one year and then not find another seat because there are enough like average drivers making a good enough case for themselves that there aren't enough seats. True, but then if Jack uses that opportunity to go, well, this is how good I'm bloody am. You'd be mad not to keep me or to or to poach me. So he's got to be in the system. It's just like, it's like an IFL coach. I think James heard there's more. I think he's even on the Alpine wish list of potential candidates to fill that state. And if you're talking about there's not enough depth in the junior formula, which I disagree with. I'm actually very surprised that lame Lawson is not in the mix. For AlphaTauri, graduation, for example. So that surprises me a little bit. But yeah, I think there's enough talent on the grid to be filled by your F two types. And look, I'm not going to discredit IndyCar, right? I think that you could easily get all other drivers of higher stock on board. Yeah, I just found a bizarre is more eligible for super license points that Colton heard but he's not even in anyone's right up. And I think he's progression into IndyCar has been far more impressive, but nevertheless, yeah. It's an interesting, interesting time. It is interesting, isn't it? And it does make you wonder the Nick devries thing. Now he's another driver we should talk about here because he's on everyone's list all of a sudden he's on Williams lists. He's on Alpine's list. He's now apparently the favorite to go to alpha tauri replaced Pierre gasly. But he's kind of broken the business model a little bit because he's not come immediately up through F two. Obviously he's an F two champion a couple of years ago, but he's gone by formula E and he's a driver that realistically was written off. Before this year there was no chance he's getting to Formula One he had a shot at Williams and at Alfa Romeo for this season and Williams went for Alex Albon and Alfa Romeo and for Joe grand you in both of them worked out obviously. So that's no knock on that decision making. But all of a sudden is injected himself into the conversation for good reason because he had a great race in Italy. A great race on debut sudden race on debut. But it does make you wonder, every time we hear someone say, oh, like the F two greeted schnitzel very impressive, it's very weak greed, all these kinds of things. How seriously can we take it? Because as you sort of said earlier, sometimes drivers do click in formula and you can't take a punt on a driver happening to get all of a sudden much better and if one. But it does make you wonder whether actually we're bypassing too many drivers because sort of the vibe of the greed in F two. He's not so good. Reading, yeah, reading too many articles. I don't say we don't respect you, but in your posture, but I don't. Yeah, just yeah, you can't be riding off drivers in the press. And yeah, it's very strange that people get sucked into this vortex of if they've got good headlines around them, therefore they're going to be stand at driver because it's not always been the case. Not always been the case, but yeah, I think many seasons before it was written off too many drivers. Drivers of hung around for too long as well. So there's talent if you look hard enough and just ignore the hype and look at the raw facts and the raw data. This is why maybe this is why I'm anti anti hero because I just don't, if I look at the data, if I don't believe the headlines, if I don't say Lee diffie screaming about how good Colton herder is and every IndyCar driver just having Carlton's back. Very admirable. But if I'm looking at the data, I don't see it. I just don't bloody say it and I'm not going to get sucked in for it either. I'm not going for the popular route. Now is the time for the king to take his rightful place thrown in the Hall of Fame. Sit on his king of Thrones. I'm KB. That's my time. Books of neutrals. This break is brought to you by liquor land. And we've got a special promo code for loyal listeners of box of neutrals when you
Motor Sport Magazine Podcast
"antonio giovinazzi" Discussed on Motor Sport Magazine Podcast
"But I guess it taught me to be more resilient and taught me to work hard and look at things from a different angle in a different perspective because you're not always going to be in a scenario that you've got the opportunity to win. And I guess that also helped when I joined Williams, these two years of experience when I didn't win, helped me to accept the struggles of 2019 because I knew it's just a phase and I knew that those years wouldn't define me negatively if anything. They will mold me into a better driver. You responded well at Williams to that sort of situation. But in 2013, when you're much younger, did you respond well then? I'd say in 2013 with barrel I responded fine but potentially with a bit of arrogance that I would blame in the equipment. Which then hindered me when I got into F three with Carlin because I then 2014 I moved to formula four, I won formula four did some form of runner races European Championship one to race there. So the winning ways were back. And then I went to Carlin in formula three, one of the very first round of a field of 35 cars. And then I was off to pace. And I was blaming the equipment rather than looking at myself. So they were two quite different seasons. And I guess, in a way, because I knew in 2013, the equipment wasn't the best. I was quite at ease because I was outperforming my teammates quite drastically and then I guess also equally at Williams in 2019. I knew that we didn't have a car that was even close to being able to score points. So maybe one way I could have been a one tenth behind my optimal. You don't really recognize that. You don't really know that. But when you're really in the thick of it and fighting for it. And that one tenth of missing. That's where it becomes really difficult. And that was me to be honest during the 2015 F three season. I was teammates with Antonio giovinazzi, who was in his third year of former three. He was one of the favorites to win the championship. And for the first half of the year, I was a tenth and a half, two times behind. And I just did not understand why. And that naivety of saying must be car car car as opposed to what can I do to improve to maybe I haven't gone slower as a driver, but I needed to work harder to get more out of the car and my team and the end of the day you are one big package together. And that's where that was probably the killer year for me. That really helped me be years after. You mentioned 15. It was an incredible failed looking at it. I've got the list here. So Felix, Rosenthal won the title from Antonio from your teammate. You're talking like you really, really didn't perform well at all. But then it was in terms of rookies. Charles was fourth, lancet, you self sick, and Alex was 7th. So, I mean, that's a pretty strong field and strong set of results for everyone in that top 7. Did you know the talent around you at that point were you looking at these guys and going these are people I could end up if I can reach F one soaking these guys. You can say no, if not, I think you don't even recognize it during your younger days because, for example, with Charles or even max and ocon, you're racing these guys for all of your carton days. That was just for level. So we knew nothing else. This was just the level. And if you wanted to win, you had to beat these guys. As you went through the ranks, that just felt like that was the level. I guess it's only now, we are in Formula One. We look back. That was quite a grid drive as we were racing against and how we're obviously performing in Formula One today. So, but again, I think even for a number of us, it was tough because we went into a field, I think Felix Rodriguez was in his 5th or 6th season of formula three, Antonio was in his third season of Jay Dennis was there also in his third season. He's a guy who's had so much experience. We were young kids coming in. And we weren't with the top team who was prema were the team to be with. If you're in a primer, you got a good chance of winning. And so I think that was tricky for all of us and if anything, we probably performed worse throughout the mid part of the season because we weren't used to not being able to win every single week. And because we as human kids and trying to understand how to deal with this difficulty for us, they actually hold us back for quite a bit whereas if I went in with a mentality saying right. I am going up against guys who have been here for 6 years, 5 years, four years, who are probably in slightly superior cost to us. Driven actually for me was the man to beat that year for me. He was the best driver of the season, but I don't believe the Carlin car was anywhere close to the performance of the prema car. So I'm going up against the guy who was at the top of his game in a formula.