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Episode 7: Go A Day Without Wanting To Die

The Little Things

27:19 min | 11 months ago

Episode 7: Go A Day Without Wanting To Die

"How many people do we encounter on a daily basis. Have you ever taken the time to consider what those people are going through. The dreams aspirations nations fears and challenges that are faced each day make every individual unique in our understanding or interactions with these individuals. Help them overcome become the mountains that are faced each and every day. We think so because it's the little thinks that can make a big difference. And here's Mitch and Jake welcome to the little things with Mitch. Jake Jake episode seven. I think we've got a doozy on her hands. Here should be. I don't WanNa say good one one but a very indepth a lot of different perspectives on it. I think we can get a lot from this. How you doing doing Great Mitch? A Happy Sunday It's beautiful out. The Vikings played great today. And we're going to have a deep and meaningful discussion here today. So really looking forward to how you doing. I'm doing just great. You gotta like Sunday's it's relaxed. We got homecoming week coming up this week. Kids are excited Teachers there are excited but a different type of excited so I'm excited to to get started with that week. I got a great group of kids and staff in Florence and just really enjoy. Enjoy my time. They're going to have a float in the parade. No not me nope. I'll just make sure none of them breakdown. And if they do I'll call someone to fix it because I'm not really that Kinda guy either but hey jake we've had quite a few people that have reached out to us. How can we get people a little more interested involved in the podcast? Yeah we've had a great following some great interactions so far and just WANNA continue to increase exposure and further the conversations conversations are email is the little things dot Mitch and Jake at G. Mail DOT COM. Please send us a note anytime And also when you're on your asks APPs whether it's android apple I tunes spotify whatever it is make sure you hit subscribe once you hit subscribe that enables whatever your App your onto onto send you notifications when we release a new episode. I know we released one on Thursday Episode six live a good life so Just don't rely on social media entirely but make sure you hit subscribe and you'll get all the notifications and reach out to US anytime. Thanks Jake the question today. What do you want to do before you die? The answer to that question. Go a day without wanting to die. Jake what's your first reaction to that. My the first reaction was wow when I was reading the book and obviously came up here again and as I go through my notes and whatnot it just continues to amaze me the answers that these kids kids put together for for your project cardboard confessionals just the things that kids go through and adults but everyone's going through something and everyone. Everyone has a story they have the ups and downs throughout their journey. And it's it's sad but Powerful as well to this answer go a day okay without wanting to die. I think it's going to be a deep discussion. And hopefully we'll continue the conversation and be able to help people out. Mitch Yeah I think the AH the same wages we. We walked by so many different people in our days and they're going through. Things are dealing with mountains and adversity and challenges in their life. And I don't think by nature. We want to downplay their problems. But we're so I don't WanNa say we're selfish either but we worry about about what we've got going on in in all reality. Everyone's dealing with huge problems in their lives and there's their strong. They've got a lot of strength to be able to appreciate their strength. is going to help them overcome kind of what they've got going on. Go a day without wanting to die. I'm just trying to think of this student in their thinking. Their mindset their experiences. They've went through what Jake. What is this student thinking where they're coming from? I'm and what's going on in their life to answer that Mitch. Who knows I mean? I mean who knows what they were going through I. I'm sure when they put their answer down. Go a day without wanting to die in folded up and put it into your cardboard box. Hopefully that was sort of a release or weight off their shoulders But who knows what they they were going through. I I don't know if the student has reached out or talk to anyone about the problems it could be anything it could be issues at home. It could be issues with the parent. maybe a loved one. Maybe they lost someone in their life. Maybe they're getting bullied at school. Maybe they got scolded after the latest football loss on on a Friday. I mean who knows what they were going through. And that's kind of the the goal and and ties into some of the things that we're trying to do with the little things. PODCAST here is we never know what people are going through and we have to appreciate that everyone is going through something and we wanna open up the conversations relating to these topics. Mitch See. We're dealing with different people. Different outlooks mindsets but problems are are similar. I mean your overall problems and what I I'm very interested in is how different people deal with the same problems on a completely different approach. You have one person that might deal with a divorce force in the family that you know it might just really hurt them and it might take them down the wrong path and they make tough decisions wrong decisions citizens down that path and another person sees this as an opportunity to grow and just that different perspective that you see from two different people dealing dealing with the same problems that make sense I think perspective is the key word there. You said You know one student could look like you said a divorce There's certain certain other examples as well to through life. It can be looked at through the eyes of one individual completely opposite from what another person might be experiencing or feeling what are some other other real life examples of that. I know you mentioned divorce. But what are a few other examples that people may be able to relate to. I think death I think one way or another. Every report on this earth is going to be hit with death in many different forms as well you have one person that may have a a distant relative that that suddenly dies and it impacts them it hits them they look at it a different way and it just impacts their everyday life and they may impact them for months and then you get another person. That's been living with their spouse for years and they pass away suddenly and it almost doesn't feel like it impacts and I know it does but they go on thinking in feeling looking like it really. It doesn't impact them. I'm just very interested on how different people take. That and I know personality plays a huge role in that in the relationships. Chips that you build but that kind of stuff just interests me I mean do you. Do you got anything other than death and divorce. I mean that's an interesting take just on on your perspective right there Some people you know can grieve loss and maybe be over into two three weeks. Some people may take eight years. Maybe a lifetime. Maybe someone doesn't over loss like that. And what what I think is important so maybe touch on Mitch is just the the understanding ending that each people handles things differently and a lot of people like to show or protrude that they have tough skin that they think they they want others to think they have it all figured figured out But like I said everyone is going through something and the magnitude of that is different You mentioned the loss of someone Death Divorce Divorce You could experience maybe even small things you know for for instance these students. Maybe a loss of football game like I mentioned on a Friday night. Maybe they. They threw couple of interceptions fumbled and lost the game Maybe they move on from that. Maybe they don't you know who knows Sports play A big role slash. Maybe even more and more important role than maybe it. Should you know in high school athletics. with all the added pressure and whatnot but how all students are handling those. Those issues can can vary from students student. Yeah that's sports conversation. I'M NOT GONNA get into that because I remember growing up in that. Just being the biggest thing in the world that lose a game and it would bug me for two weeks and just the way your perceptions and your your mindset changes as you go through life and you you see kids the same way you were and you just want to grab him around the shoulder and be like it. You're going to get this figured out. I was in your shoes and and I get it but going back to kind of what we were chatting about. You talk about these people that are dealing with divorce and death and these huge tragedies that you see a school shooting suicide. There's one characteristic. There's one feeling I believe that is widespread. It's it's a characteristic of all these individuals were talking about and that's loneliness. I think all of these people are feeling a sense of loneliness to the point where they may be struggling they make tough decisions that impact them long term. And you look back at this. This confession confession go a day without wanting to die. I mean that's right up the alley of loneliness and they. They're in this whole and they feel like they can't get out jake. You WanNa share your thoughts on that. I think with the increase in anxiety and depression and suicidal rates in the country and all along the world An increase in loneliness is is even more A statement in effect as it increases in the business of the world and the day to day that we go through there. So many different distractions for us today. You have information you have social media at your fingertips she has. TV shows. Yeah friends you have going out every single week. And there's so many distractions that a lonely person can can tie themselves to or distract themselves to which which is fine and whatnot and I think he should surround yourself with people and and events to keep yourself busy but you're letting that loneliness build up because those things those events those people those weekends they don't last forever and eventually have to kind of come back home and settle down and take care of yourself and I've touched on that it's important to fill up your cup? I you need to take care Arab yourself and if you are lonely Make sure to you know it can get uncomfortable at times but be sure to reach out. Lean on the people. Will that care about you. Most you know your your close friends. You're close family members your parents even as as tough as it may be. Communication is so key and I know we've noted that many times on the little things podcast but it's important to to communicate those things see and I think loneliness is so tough because loneliness cleaness can be a mask you can have someone that says. They're lonely and they're around people all the time and it's what we have inside that that changes thing the the way we perceive our friendships and our relationships around us. If we feel like they're empty if we feel like people around us aren't I don't want to say giving us a fair shake but they're not making connections with us. I think loneliness starts playing a role. Aw and completely changes everything now. The that that's a great point just a quick note you mentioned it right there loneliness can can be Liam ask when some of the most lonely people that I have met an income to contact with I guess through a a couple of different years of my life there. They surround themselves with all this noise. And all this this who ride if you will but you know quite frankly they're they're lonely and it it's sad and and it worries me that you know. Some people have have come to that but I just wanted to note on that quickly. No absolutely talking about loneliness people make decisions and this is an example. Go Day without wanting to die but why do people in students choose death to escape their problems in I believe in education and just in life in general that we live in a society. We were asking for help is a weakness. We are in the deepest darkest hole we've ever been in in. Our Society makes us feel week when we want to ask for a helping hand. I mean think about all the self help books and the do it yourself. That's a huge. The problem and people that are already thinking this are vulnerable. They've stuck their neck out there and they feel that they haven't gotten helped they've received and is it an adequate ask for help. I don't know but to continue to reach out to ask for help. Just makes them feel less about themselves in less about their situation. They're all ready struggling. And I truly believe that's why I suicide is so big here. Is that our outlets are very very few and far far and few between but we we really struggled to have opportunities to get us out of that Hole Jake. I think that's an interesting point I think. And we've both touched on it now. Is You know there has been an increase in in anxiety depression suicidal rates etc and to me. There's there's also been an increase in the effort and awareness around it Not to tie everything into sports but you look at the national football league. They certainly have their share Arab issues. with Antonio Antonio Brown saga going on and whatnot but look what they've done to try and help Help players with you know L. With with concussion protocols life after football I know they're continuing to try and improve that I was watching some football today and each team. has A psychiatrist on board A mental health doctor and some teams or even implementing Support Animal Malls. Now I think that's awesome and that's just one example but to to to make a point again is there's also an increase in the awareness and the effort level wanted to support these individuals and support these problems that people are dealing with. And I think it's it's important even if you don't want to reach out to someone face to face that there is there is help out there. There is effort and there is people in and societies and communities. Who Really do care about you before moving going on I do want to shout out one? Eight hundred two seven three talk. It's the national suicide helpline. Anyone listening to this podcast looking for a little extra guidance. One eight hundred two seven three talk. You aren't the only one with this problem reaching out for help. Help is important and I know at times. We feel week when we do that. But making this decision will be the strongest decision you ever make again. One eight hundred two seven three talk doc. Thanks for sharing that Mitch. Mental health is quiet. Jake people who are depressed having Zaid and other mental health issues lose their tough to read they go quiet again. We talked about that they. They feel like they've already helped in that vulnerability of reaching out for help makes makes their mental health even worse your journey of anxiety depression. Have you ever been touched by the these mental health issues. Yes I have. I've had some firsthand experience with Mitch. And you mentioned that there are nailed nailed the the nail on the head. There is it's quiet. Mental health is is quiet. I've dealt with some anxiety is especially this past year year and a half and to share a little bit and My journey I made a big decision. Awhile back to kind of leave my roots and basically uplift my entire life. I I left the DAKOTAS Otas. I left a good career left. Get Support Family and friends and moved out to Colorado call it on a whim. We'll call it on a win to just is trying to expand my horizons and whatnot and it was tough for me. Menchu's tough out there and the the anxiety and stuff that came along with that I was almost embarrassed embarrassment. I was embarrassed and I didn't WANNA see people. I didn't want people to see me in a week. Setting I didn't WANNA show any weakness. I was really struggling out in Colorado The career wasn't going as I plan. The move wasn't going as I planned. I had relationships falter and stuff got really really hard for me but I kept it all in I kept it all inside and it just continued to to boil you know. Continue to boil in into get worse and worse and with with that just created a lot of anxiety and a lot of issues that I'm still trying to combat with an done a great job and I've I've learned in grown from that experience but take your question. Yeah I've I've dealt with it in in large magnitudes in you know like we've touched on here in this episode. I didn't necessarily you want to share that weakness in share that vulnerability and and failure with with anyone so I didn't talk about it with anyone. Why sure appreciate you sharing? Because I think we've got some listeners that are in the same boat. They've made a tough decision in their life. It didn't pan out and they feel almost embarrassed and embarrassment. It kind of leads to some anxiety as well. You just don't WanNa share that stuff so jake thanks for sharing that. I know there's going to be people listening. That can relate to that and appreciate your courage and strength. The I'd like to share a little bit of what I had going on as far anxiety high school college or supported. You've got people around you. You're not worried about finances. Anything like that. You get your first job out of college and no one can really teach you about the business of life and and all of the expectations that are put on one of my biggest things. Jake that I struggled with was that people rely on that relied on me. My first year out of college you know in high school and in college just rely on people to take care of the little things and get. Get stuff where you need it to be done. And this was the first year where people relied on me about that You Know Coaching Teaching for my first year. I mean I was twenty two years old teaching. Nineteen Year olds. There was just a lot brought in And I couldn't explain it. You know people would always ask like what are you nervous about. What are you so anxious about? You're just like I have no idea in and I always share that shared that with my psychology classes about anxiety about depression. Is You really can't explain it until you've witnessed it until you've had it and then you appreciate appreciate those people that deal with it on a day-to-day basis and I remember sharing that in Class in a few kids came up and they said thank you people. People just don't understand and you know we downplay it if you've never had anxiety or depression before you downplay it and you're just like we'll do something that makes a happy. Just forget about the things that are upset and you go to movie once in a while. Watch TV GO OUT FOR A run. He'll be fine but really downplaying that insane and saying that is making their anxiety depression worse because it is a problem and we don't feel like it's easily overcome and when someone says something like that it makes your mountain. It makes your challenge even harder and I just say anyone listening. Depression and anxiety is tough and the people that are dealing with it or a huge hole in their life and downplaying. Their problems isn't helping anything at all so I guess that's kind kind of where I'm at with that Jake. I appreciate you sharing that story Mitch. That's definitely a big part of your journey and unsure. The listeners agree. Thank thank you for sharing your story. I WanNa make a good point about that That story that you brought up you know when when you said that you were dealing with anxiety and people looking up to you and whatnot and you've short few shared that with classes you've shared that with students and they've come up to you afterwards and said thank you You know thanks for sharing I've been going on with. I've been having this go on and have had these problems as well too. I think that's awesome. Because you're almost setting an an example and setting a platform for students and for individuals of all ages to be able to reach out and have the conversations and seek help. Hope you were. You were vulnerable and you'd let Out a part of your story and student saw that they saw that you know courage in you and from a position of of you as as a leader and a teacher and a role model I think it may be opened the door for them to share some of their experiences experiences and and let them get the weight off their chest so I definitely applaud you for that. I think that's Awesome Mitch. Well Jake before the the end of our podcast we revisit past episodes and included reviews and questions from our audience. I would like to shout out to people that shared our post post in just kind of gave us a nice word on facebook Andrea gap and Randy Hills both of the summit area. Sure appreciate your support. Along the way it's it's it's really been nice. You've seen people come out of the woodworks to support kind of what you and I are doing Jake and Andrew Randy thank you. Thank you for your time Jake you he kinda had one that you'd like to share a little bit. Yeah I do I appreciate the the person who reached out. This was sent in a text message. regarding guarding our episode a few episodes back love someone and I had a friend reach out to me who is going through a divorce right now and she's been and following our podcast and listen to the episode specifically called Love Someone and she just felt like it was almost like she needed to hear that message right at that time Divorce is hard you know ending. Relationships is hard. And we've touched on it mentioned some of our episodes But this individual is going through a divorce and by listening listening to our podcast and some of the points that we brought up in the conversation that we created. She realized that this was a tough time. And this you know was definitely a valley but it's part of her journey and she realized that maybe the love she thought she had Wasn't necessarily there because because of some of the conversations and the realizations that she had and that some of the conversations are episode Helped her I. I guess realized that so she gave us a really really nice shout out through text message. on our on our episode. Love someone and I know I've talked with you about that but just just wanted to say thanks for being brave in sharing your story. Jeez I mean that's kind of good to hear those things. Because it kind of gives us purpose and fulfilment fulfillment in what we're doing you know I've really enjoyed this journey so far getting to reconnect with you jake but getting some of that stuff back really kind of gives us a purpose this and why we sit down each night and talk about these. Things do Outlines in kind of spend about two three hours of our night going through this because this stuff does matter and it's great to hear that would love to hear from other people as all that can connect with some of the stories that we we have. Jake you WANNA shoot that email one one more time for us again just to relieve your point. Mitch thank you so much for all the interactions and the conversations that we have had We're really enjoying this. podcast asked in and the journey that we're on and the interactions that we've had so please continue to reach out. Our email is the little things dot Mitch and Jacob gmail.com again the little all things dot Mitch and Jake at gmail.com really have enjoyed it so far and reach out to US anytime. Well Hey I'm GONNA give my last comments on this jake. Do you got a book around right now for our next episode. I don't I don't have my book Handy Right now. So if you want to track that down I'll shoot out some last common to this and we'll we'll give our listeners. Some context into what we got going Our next podcast. This has been an absolute pleasure doing this. One I've really enjoyed it was deep. I Know Jake you and I were nervous before we got going on this one just because you have no idea the listeners listeners in what they are going through but I think the last thing we want to say about this is you're not alone. We've shared that suicide helpline which I'll do one more time. I'm one eight hundred two seven three talk. You're not alone and we feel as a society that asking for help is a sense of weakness. It's it's not it's actually not. It's one of the hardest things that you can do in by asking for help to get out of a hole. You're actually showing how strong you are so that would that's what I challenge. Alan Jara listeners. To do if you're if you're dealing with something and you could use some help. Just take that step and show how strong you are actually ask for help. Thanks for Sharing Sharing Mitch. I have our next episode here. Are you ready. I am the next episode. What is one thing you want to do before you die the answer to that question and write a song for someone I love who've deliver? Let's go you hear about writing. I don't know I might be Able Loretta. There's no way I'd sing it. Maybe that's what we'll do next podcast. You can sing a little A little Jive Jive Karaoke session. I'm sure our listeners. I would love that so write a song for someone you love. Thanks again for joining me today and listeners. I appreciate it this is Mitch fanning

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Hour 1 - Joe Thomas (09-11-19)

The Dan Patrick Show

50:17 min | 11 months ago

Hour 1 - Joe Thomas (09-11-19)

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That's ADT real production brought to you by farmer's insurance knows the difference difference between a car hitting your bumper and a clown car hitting your out that because we covered it clicked for more offers a although underwritten by farmer's truck fire insurance exchanges and affiliates products on available in every state broadcasting from the Mercedes pancakes people call divas and all of that but really we're just complex complex. This is Dan Patrick. Welcome to the program our one Dan and the Danettes Dan Patrick show a lot of topics to dive into. I don't know if it's breaking King News but we have news on tiree kill. That's just been reported by Ian Rappaport. He's expected to miss four to six weeks. Kansas City Eddie does not plan to put him on the are as of now he will be monitored in Rehab and they'll find out how quickly he progresses and determine if it's more or less than six weeks so that's news that just breaking right now on tyreek hill who left the game over the weekend against Jacksonville pill and that injured shoulder all right eight seven seven three. DP show email address GPS Dan Patrick dot com twitter handle at DP show. We'll talk about Antonio Antonio Brown coming up in a moment. Mike Florio on loan from profootballtalk will give us his perspective on this Joe Thomas the former browns all pro tackle now working for the NFL L. Network. He'll assess what he saw with the Cleveland Browns in that opening. We can joe going to the hall of fame as a former offensive. Lineman probably have have some thoughts on just how bad that offensive line is with Cleveland Sean Salisbury always great to talk to Shawn he will check in in the final hour of the program Cygan good morning to our radio and TV partners. They say the clothes make the man in Odell Beckham Junior's case. Maybe it's the watch because he wore that watch that's worth a couple hundred thousand dollars and he was wearing a during the game in the loss to Tennessee. I'm GONNA guess the. NFL is not going to let him wear it. I'm support prize that the officials because he didn't hide the fact he was wearing this watch in warm ups and there were reports that he was wearing this watch. That's worth two two hundred thousand dollars. Maybe more why didn't officials say you can't wear a hard object like that because of safety reasons. Why didn't they say you either. Take Take it off or you don't play. He played in the game with the watch on now. I'm GONNA guess that he's going to continue to do this and here's a guy who's as much a brand in some ways. An icon is he is a football player. You got the hair the style the smile the personality and the watches part of everything that Beckham that Kim is all about and if you're over thirty you probably go oh boy. This guy's a diva if you're under if you're a kid you probably say. I love this and I don't know well how big a story this gets. There's uniform violations every single week in the NFL. This is different than hey. I'm not going to have my socks pulled up the way they should. I'm gonNA wear these shoes. This is about safety and I don't imagine that the browns or the NFL WANNA make a bigger deal out of this. Here's the the thing that I would probably say if I'm ready kitchens. Hey you better not be late for a meeting. Because you don't have an excuse you got to watch on Okay Day but this is Dell Beckham junior and this is not what you want. You just got blown out by thirty against Tennessee at home. Let's put the distractions to the side. How about we wait until we're we're winning. We're doing well so then people aren't taking potshots at US but oh. BJ'S GONNA wear and I'm not I'm not surprised. I'm surprised the NFL is they allowed him to wear it in the game. Why didn't an official just walk up and say hey even if you didn't notice that he had it on somebody eventually did and why didn't the NFL say for for safety reasons you take off the watcher. You don't play yes mclovin so how's it. GonNa work though because he said he's still gonNA wear are they physically remove it from his wrists or just what what if he just takes a fine you just don't let him in the game. Yeah you say to your coach Freddie Kitchens Freddie. You cannot let him play in this game now. I don't know if if they they penalized the Cleveland browns but just safety wise. You have to take a stand with something like this. This isn't about a fashion accessory. This is about about a safety issue. Odell Beckham did try to compare it to the hard edges that players have a knee braces but the knee braces serve a purpose. Yes you have to wear knee brace of some type. Yes I understand. I don't understand that logic on his part like hey. You allow us to wear knee braces. That's different. That's a football accessory. Yes mclovin guys wear hard cast. That always feels weird to me yeah but that that that's something that's. I think that they have to alive. Ah but I think they have to soften. You know it's a soft cast like you can have a weapon out there. Now you might use it as weapon but you know this is. It's not a big deal but it could become a bigger deal and you're the browns you know. How about we win a game. I don't before we go out there and make fashion statements. They're all right the Antonio Brown situation. He is facing sexual assault rape charges. This is a civil suit. Actually he's is being sued. He's not facing charges. He's being sued. It's a civil suit here no criminal charges and I. I'm not here to try this case yes. I think it's dangerous to go down the road and assume that we know what's going on with this. We're not experts on sexual assault. Were not lawyers. This is what I WANNA know. How does this affect him on the football field. Is He gonNA play this week. Can can you play in this weekend against Miami. What's the. Nfl Do the NFL's got involved in this now the NFL said that they're going to be investigating the NFL should say they're monitoring this. Let's just monitor because we've been involved then this before and the NFL did not do a good job but this is. That's what we're doing. We're monitoring this. I'm not reading too much into it. I have a lot of questions here a lot of questions but I wanNA know. When do we start getting answers. What's that mean for him as a football player. I'm not here to judge him as a person. I'm here to judge him as a football player. This is a former trainer. I'm not reading too much into what their relationship was or wasn't that she came to his house. She continued to come to his house. You continue to train him. It's a civil suit. Not a criminal suit and you know that so. There's a lot of things that we want to jump out jump into and then I feel like that. We got a better understanding on this. It's a it's a sports story to me. It's on the field the NFL's hired experts before on sexual sold after the ray rice case and once again. They're going to earn their money here but I look at. This is just somebody who hosts the show. Now we can factor in that. You know we're fathers. Were people but I don't have the information here and that's not we're supposed to do because it's dangerous to do it and try to figure all of this out. I do love that. Sports allows us to have the platform to talk about social issues that we may not talk about publicly otherwise but you know the reality is we we shouldn't and we won't when it comes to this story. Now I just want to know and that's why I'm having Mike Florio on. He's a lawyer. I want to ask him about this. I believe there's going to be a countersuit against Antonio Brown's former trainer but we're not going to get answers today. The answer that I want to know is the commissioner's exemplified going to be in play. What if Antonio Brown is found not guilty. What if I take him off the field for a month. How long does this take. How long will this take to be heard or dismissed. List or a verdict has found. If there is a verdict found for you know the plaintiff is they're going to be then a criminal lawsuit is is there going to be charges brought against. Tony Brown lot of questions and that's why I say on this show. I'M NOT GONNA try to try this case. I've I'm just GONNA look at it from the football perspective of what are the Patriots do what's the. NFL DO is Antonio Brown on the field because remember Adrian Peterson Persson and the abuse against his his son child abuse the NFL didn't want somebody out there who there was there were pictures news of the abuse for his little boy you don't want him out there on national TV the NFL is a business right. This isn't due process the NFL fellows running a business. The last thing they want is someone who's out on. The field and people are cheering the NFL does not want in my opinion and have Tom Brady high fiving Antonio Brown after touchdown in Miami this weekend. Now the image over fairness and look it's a business. It's not fair and the NFL is probably as we speak going. What do we do. Do we allow him out there. Commissioners exemplify simplest. Do we go and hide him. It's like when you have something ugly on your front yard and then you just put it in the garage. It doesn't go away. It's still there richest in the garage. That's what the NFL is looking at with Antonio Brown. The apple I had the official definition exemplifies the exemplifies a special player status available able to clubs only an unusual circumstances the list includes those players who have been declared by the commissioner to be temporarily exempt from being on the active list only the commissioner has the authority to place and take someone off the commissioners list the clubs have no authority to place them on or take them off and also the commissioner has no timetable to return a player from the commissioners list. He has no no one answer to there is no recourse for a player and if he was if he's found innocent and then he has a countersuit you take him off the field for a month. If you're Antonio Oh Brown and you lose a month. You lose those paychecks. Are you suing the NFL like I know down the road on this but I you know I'm just looking at the football football part of this if you take him off the Field Yeah Pauline appears that you still get paid on the commissioner will get picked up here. Is that way it doesn't say so in the definition but in the the past players have gotten paid so the the team loses the player and still has the pay them which is even tougher your glove at the NFL part of is protecting the team from having the discipline their own players. I would imagine yeah. I wonder if the Patriots would discipline him. Here's Tom Brady talking about Antonio. Neo Brown he was on his radio show his appearance on W. E. E. I this is yesterday and he's just talking about Antonio Brown the football player. I don't believe he was aware of any the of these possible charges that could be brought against Antonio Brown. This is just a civil suit there no criminal charges that had been fired. Here's filed. Here's Tom Brady. I'm not judging anything before you know I've had a chance to go out and practice in prepare and I've had so many great teammates over the years and you know Antonio medium today and I really enjoyed being around him. He's very the very smart. Football player knows how to play the game. He's been extremely productive and thing that I know what we can do is to go out there and work at it to meet into communicate to get on the practice field and go through things. It's Tom Brady. It's courtesy of W E E. This program brought to you in part by TRUECAR car. Shopping can be confusing terms like dealer price list price invoice truecar art shows you what other people paid for the car you want so you can recognize a good price when you're ready to buy a new or used car visit truecar to enjoy more confident car buying experience once again. I I opened the phone lines to talk and talk sports. I don't want to try this case. Okay this is in court TV. This isn't court radio. I don't WanNa do that because it's not fair to either party here. If something happened you know then hopefully the evidence comes out and we'll react to that but I I react in a sports manner. At least I try to and that's what we're trying to do here with Antonio Brown it you know some of the things that he's accused of a really ugly but I want to be fair to both sides due process. What's the NFL do would the Patriots do does Antonio Brown play on Sunday as we go forward with this so those are just some of the things that I'm looking at and when Mike Florio joins US next hour? That's so you know those are the lines that I'm going to be trying to stay in between all right. We'll come up with the poll question and email address teepee. Dan Patrick dot com twitter handle at DP show so when we come back we'll talk to Joe Thomas. He's the former Cleveland browns offensive lineman. What's he think of Odell Beckham wearing this watch. What did he make of that. 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I don't know if this is a must win situation for the panthers but it's pretty close. I try not to use that too often but it feels like in that division. You can't afford to lose this. One against the Tampa Bay buccaneers Joe joins us now is is it a must win situation for the panthers Thursday night show. I believe it is only two out of twelve teams made the playoffs last year that started to and you look at that. NFC South Division the Saints Looking Pretty Good. We kind of expect that they're gonNA make the playoffs this year and I'm not exactly sure that a wildcard team is going to come out of the NFC south this this yourself to fall behind on to for the panthers would be a little bit more of what we saw from them at the end of last season and they definitely don't want to be the same team that they were to finish the season last here. I have concerns about how they use Christian McCaffrey because it it doesn't feel like Cam is one hundred percent and it feels like when all else fails just just give the ball or throw the ball to Christian McCaffrey. How how concerned would you be of overuse of Christian McCaffrey. We got to be a little concerned. He added almost thirty touches last week and the reason they keep giving them the football because he seems to be their only big time playmaker on offense especially as cam can't really run the football right now like he usually does because of that foot injury that he got in the preseason and they're trying to take some hits off of him but for a guy. That's not a huge player physically like Christian McCaffrey to get thirty touches is not exactly sustainable for the long term. You know he's done a great job avoiding injury so far in his career but you gotta be a little concerned if that's all you have and that's always going to be your safety valve on offense because it is a physical sport in the NFL and you're not thinking at this is a guy that can survive that many touches week in and week out why did the NFL allow. Why did the game officials allow. Odell Beckham to where that watching the game well. It's a good question I think Odell came out and said he's read the rules and you're allowed to wear jewelry and I guess the the refs deemed jewelry because it's not exactly something they see on a daily basis seeing guys come out wearing watches since not exactly a requisite part of your uniform so maybe they were. I'm just thinking Oh we'll let it slide because we can kind of see that it's probably jewelry yeah but it's a watch and now you have something hard that you're wearing. There's there's a safety issue here. I mean it's not like a wearing a knee brace or a necklace. I'm not I'm not arguing for wearing a watch got to see that wearing a watch help you in any manner on a football field other than maybe looking good when it's all said and done in your touchdown pictures but clearly clearly this is kind of a gray area that wraps probably never encountered before since like I mentioned watches are not exactly part of catching or throwing a football or blocking even so this this might be something that will see the nfl look into and obviously hey odell doesn't want it to be a storyline but it is when you wear two hundred thousand dollar watch on a Sunday okay deal even if he's wearing a timex. It still doesn't matter how much it costs but if you're his teammate. Are you bothered by this. I would say if you're a team mate. You're thinking just take the watch off like why does it matter. It's not helping you catch the football. It's not helping you run faster. Run better routes so if it becomes a distraction if it becomes something that we have to talk about if it's not helping you become a better football player. Let's just do the easy thing and just not where it would. It bother you that. Would you say something to if you were playing well. I think the first week I people probably didn't notice honestly I didn't really notice until it became a big deal on social media because it is a nice looking watch it kind of blends in with the Jersey he he is right. It does look really nice but what what did did you find out that it costs more than most people's house then you're thinking well that seems a little unnecessary and then you dig into the rules and it's Kinda destroy area well. It is a hard object but you're allowed to wear jewelry so is it allowed isn't in the loud and then it just becomes a distraction. Odell throughout his career when he was with the giants at a lot there's distractions and they were not related to his performance on the field but I think he would be smart and maybe his teammates might nudge him in the right direction love hey. Why don't we just turn over a new leaf. You're in Cleveland and just try to avoid doing the things that don't help us win on Sunday that we have to talk about Sunday after the game that have nothing to do with football. Yeah I know where during warmups if you want to but not during the game you know you go. This is what I'm concerned about with the browns. I got a guy who's never ever been a head coach and I got odal there. I got guys who were brands now. I I don't have high expectations for the browns. I don't have the making the playoffs in. This isn't an overreaction to week one. I just think it's hard to piece it all together and you know they got blown out at home by Tennessee that offensive line nine look spotty right now for me Joe. If I'm a browns fan. What did you see that it. It concerns you more not just a week one overreaction but this is something to keep an eye on the rest of the season. The thing that concerned me was the penalties they at eight hundred two hundred yards and they're a team that talked all training camp about discipline and accountability and we're going to be different BROWNS team. Freddie kitchens is a bill parcells disciple. He's he's a guy that believes in toughness and then you go out and you have that many mistakes and you have that much sloppiness. It looks like a team that hadn't played together before which they were not a team. That really has played together. They've added a lot of pieces and that's why they were so hyped and that's why I was so excited about this season but now that weak one they look like they they were inexperienced and they got beaten by a Titan theme that didn't have as much talent but had played together before and had that experience so I think moving enforce they gotta prove that yes we have all these talented pieces but also yes we can play together and play football because football's a team sport and the best teams win in the best teams that play together so that's going to be their goal going into the Monday night game against the jets. I brought up the Commissioner's exempt list. We've seen it a couple of times most notably notably with Adrian Peterson. I don't know Antonio Brown ends up on that. Commissioner's exempt list. What are the players think of the commissioners exemplifies the players. There's probably don't like it overall but I do think it is a good useful tool for the NFL to be able to do something with somebody while they at least go through some of the investigation. Obviously it's GonNa take a lot of time for all of this stuff with Antonio Brown to play out and that's what happens with the legal system. It's very slow it takes a long time to find out innocent or guilty and so Roger and the NFL clearly they wanna be able to address something before the courts come to decision to maybe three years later so I think the exemption list is something that's reasonable put the guy on there for the short term let the NFL investigators at least find out if he's clearly innocent or clearly guilty and and then at that point then they can decide what they want to do. In the short term until the legal process kinda finds its way through. What's the way. Would you win now. Oh that's kind of a personal over the summer there was a few too many beverages consumed many barbecues eating so no. I've actually trying to get back down a little bit for my big Thursday night football career here this fall so I'm about to fifty five right now. What are you mention hopefully over to fifty five and not working out too. You know what I'll I'll throw three replaces the bar today and I'll give you an update Joe. The camera ads fifteen pounds so right now. You're about to seventy. I guess I'm not eating until till Friday morning. Given me a complex a good to talk to. You have fun on Thursday night great to catch up with you. Thanks a lot Dan I appreciate it and that's Joe Thomas Thomas Works for the NFL network and he'll be there Thursday night. NFL Game Day kickoff as you have the panthers against the buccaneers and I think this is a big game. I'm for Carolina. There's no real room for error. I think Atlanta is still going to be dangerous and then you have the you know you had the saints here now. Don't expect much out out of the buccaneers but Carolina got win these games losing home. You lose at home to the end granted you know the rams were favored in in this game but cameras not one hundred percent and you're going to rely on Christian McCaffrey and maybe rely on him too much. Yes mclovin. Don't you get the feeling this Bucks Panthers Thursday night. Game is going to be sloppy. I mean we early season Thursday night. We always come Friday and just ripped the game. Yes probably will be if you missed any of our interviews this week or any week from the Mercedes G. Man Cave go to the Dan Patrick Show App you can watch and listen from inside the Mercedes aim G. Man Cave Mercedes' Say Gee driving performance. I asked mclovin love and I gave them a homework assignment. Can you give me an idea of the number of teams who have lost by thirty or more points opening week at home and gone on to make the playoffs. mclovin has come back with an answer to his homework assignment. Just two teams all time have lost by at least thirty points at home in week one and gone on to make the playoffs the nineteen eighty-nine steelers in the nineteen ninety-seven steelers in one thousand nine hundred ninety seven the steelers lost thirty seven seven to Dallas. They won the Division at eleven five. I think in nineteen ninety nine I'm not I know I don't know if this is is accurate or not but they got blown out in week. One against the browns fifty one to nothing and then week two they were blown outage outed Cincinnati forty one to ten they finish nine and seven made the playoffs but that's why I was curious about the Cleveland browns. You get blown out by thirty points at home opening week. And how do you respond so interesting to see how the browns who the browns have coming up. They have Pittsburgh the jets on Monday night. That's right who was on the nine thousand nine hundred eighty nine hundred dealers. I just googled it up and the quarterback according to Bobby Brister what Bubby brister had an era with that was post Bradshaw. I guess right yes. It was very well. You had a few guys who after Brad show you know Mark Malone their name clip out the good quarterback name. Though how does he not have a beer cliffs doubt yeah man he write that name. He should have been up pro bowler cliffs doubt Hey. What's your name cliffs doubt. What do you do quarterback cliffs doubt. Do you think when he went to grade school practice. He's like seven and he told his name nyquil year. Playing quarterback had no skills whatsoever. Do you think he just said cliffs doubt he'd ever said cliff. He just said cliffs doubt he took over for Bradshaw then you had mark Bologne Bubby Brister Brister Neil O'Donnell Mike Tomczak Kordell Stewart Tommy Maddox who then Ben Roth Accord L. Medics were pretty good for times. Yeah Hodge Merrill Hajjah Eight touchdowns in nineteen eighty nine for the steelers. Oh I didn't know he was that good. I don't remember him was was he was he a blocking back at six hundred twenty one rushing yards and eight touchdowns. I Miss Yeah. He was a fullback. Who's listening full full backs used to run again yeah now. It's one of those where you know John. Kyun would come in for the packers and everybody would yell that. He was in the game. There was no surprise that he was in the game and usually it'll be a goal line situation. We needed one yard. Everybody knew John Kuhn was going to get the ball. Yes kordell Stewart in two thousand one. He made the pro bowl in a season season where he threw for fourteen touchdowns. That's a different era. He made the pro bowl fourteen and eleven he he he get cut. Thanks Josh Rosen fourteen eleven eleven. Do you have a poll question mclovin today. Well we can go serious serious which you want to start with. Let me go unserious a start to watch questions okay a I want to put out the audience. Do you wear a watch. What percentage of our audience still wears what we were saying over here. You have it on your cell phone so it's almost purely ornamental at this point the time you have the time on your cell phone jewelry. It's jury and the second question if you're going to over over invest something. Would it be a ridiculously nice pair of shoes and shoot a nice watch. Maybe jewelry like earrings or maybe a car. Where would you over that that once again. These are the non serious desert okay yeah. We have a we we have a real tour of a Antonio Brown poll slash topic discussion like really what should the Patriots do boy location should the Patriots Release Antonio Brown. Should they keep him should they put him on the Commissioner's stirs exempt list make him inactive week two against Miami play them and let the NFL deal with it. You WanNa go with that one thing too. We we know what the Patriots no because they presumably have access information. We don't that's one or maybe I'm foolish. Maybe they did. They know exactly where we know I. I'm not sure if Antonio Brown is going to be forthcoming with them. I don't I don't know I have no idea yes. It seems like everybody including the the League was blindsided yeah this. I mean I I would imagine everybody is sort of scrambling for information right now unless you you know you bring him in the front office you you know. Robert Kraft brings him in and says all right. Tell me what I need to know so I can keep you on the football field. I I need to know so. We don't look bad here you now what because he's GonNa WanNa play. He's from Miami. He grew up in. You know thirty minutes away from the stadium but I I don't know like does his attorney. Let him do that. Does the Players Association get involved in Yes. Who is there. A timeline for civil suits I how long did they. They typically take to wrap up. Is it GONNA be a year and a half or is it a couple of months. Is it two weeks. There should be depositions this go on a long time it would. It's unlikely that it would be finished finish during the regular season. Yes mclovin yeah. I saw US Daniel Wile who's a sports lawyer who who we've had on before said it could be years before this resolves itself. Multiple Years Yup only one of the things I think at the Patriots. Let's say hypothetically. The Patriots said we don't need him. We don't want this baggage. We would pull abandoned and cut him. They may be on the hook for the entire hire signing bonus. If he's in a special he's innocent because they would have no reason to cut the nets nine million dollars that signing bonus but if you make this as simple colas will Antonio Brown should he be on the field this weekend yes or no now we wanna see him as as football fans but you gotta look look at this from the Patriots Perspective and certainly the NFL the NFL is running a business and as I said to start to show the last thing you want is Antonio Brown in high fiving Tom. Brady after a touchdown and social media runs with that yeah mclovin. Yeah I was GONNA ask about legacy you know the Patriots. Are This great dynasty. Will we remember them for all the winds or Aaron Hernandez Robert Kraft spy gate deflate gate. It's do they do. They not want to add Antonio Brown. B.'s what if what would happen if Antonio Brown a deterrent worst case scenario they put him on the field and then he's sort of found guilty only if I guess if they know that he's guilty of this and and then they decided to put him on the field but I think right now this might be the Brown a patriots saying we'd rather not know and let the Commissioner Commissioner handled the I you know the. NFL says they're investigating. You know you gotTa Monitor this. I I don't know and I know that you know. The police aren't involved in this right now so I'm trying to figure out what are the Patriots do because you can put the blame on the NFL and say hey. They wanted to take him off the field until they got more information. I don't think the Patriots are going to self report anything or they're going to discipline Antonio Brown but you know it. This is a fluid situation here because they got a game coming up this Sunday Yopal Apple. You know this. I think this is a lot different acquisition by the Patriots. I listened at W. E. I another networks and I have friends or patriots fans. This isn't like when they got married anymore. We got rain losses unbelievable believable. There's a lot of hardcore patriots fans who before Antonio Brown had the civil suit against him didn't like the signing like we don't need this guy. It wasn't Koumba Ya when he got signed and by Patriots fans a lot of people in the media and more so on w if you listen they're not happy about it before this obviously this being nine eleven and and we're approaching the time when you know that first tower was hit and it's not lost on us. You know never forget we I. I'll never forget. There's a lot of other things that I never forget not just nine eleven. Never forget those who were there. The Patriots who were there on the ground you know at the pile is what the you know. The Fire Department called it and having my brothers in law they're no we won't forget so I know people are saying and sending it in you. You Know Hey Hashtag never for. We won't forget can't forget. I hope we don't forget about those who did go in there that day. Who ran into those buildings like like those are the people health issues that they're dealing with and you know. Kudos to Jon Stewart going in front of Congress to say. Don't forget about them now. It seems crazy that that we would. That's that's where you say never forget when it comes to those brave brave men and women and I'll never forget that day took my kids out of school and just sat down and said hey this is because the they were really young and they can't process that and we just sat all four of our kids down and just talk to him and even then we didn't know what exactly happened like who would fly a plane into do that building to one of the twin towers and then another one and you're going what is going on. 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Express can help express nose jobs get to know express fine and express office at Expresspros Dot COM com on the express jobs APP as well. That's our play of the day the dodgers have clinched their division and Christian Yelich is has gone broke his kneecap and he's done for the season he was going neck and neck with cody bellinger for MVP and does he have enough. How's that resume look. mclovin is who's going to win this. MVP Yeah. I don't know what it is to timber. Eleven eleven so there's twenty games on that's GONNA kill he's at three twenty ninety four th and hitting now in a League which could end up making him first but his power numbers are so crazy he was in triple Crown Maria. I know but we care about these numbers at all. I think we're a little more numb to them. You know if you're flirting with the triple crown then that's one something but if like my trout hitting forty five or fifty home runs you know it just doesn't stand out the way at once did so. I think we're uh-huh to it. I don't think there's a staff that you look at and you go wow anymore. Guy Strikeout pitchers strike out a lot of guys. You know win. Total would be interesting but you don't see you can win the Cy Young. You don't have to win twenty used to be you had to win twenty games now that doesn't matter yeah. Paulie if yellow geologist's stats as is our MVP stats but it seems like bellinger could sneak by with just an average month and winning the division being the best team in the National League that'll it'll probably carry a little weight there but and it just some of the baseball stuff but this fouled off a pitch and fractured his knee kneecap. Yehiel didn't Mark Maguire had the rookie record for home runs as for record for home runs as a rookie with forty nine forty eight or forty nine is still the record is Pete Alonso's a sitting at forty seven for the mets. I just I thought he was at forty. Two forty seven yeah I I think that might still be the record is McGuire and what was that back in nineteen eighty nine or something shocking mclovin but one thing about Ronald Kuni Junior. I know he's sort of on the fringe. MVP repeat. He's unbelievable in the field. I don't know this highlights are ridiculous. Raj Home Run yeah I mean there's so many great players like that. Who is the guy we were talking about today that I barely knew what the net reknown with the net and knowing Aaron unbelievable. We don't even pay attention yeah. They got Soto with the the nats too. I mean there's a lot of a young talent out there. It's just I I said this before. ESPN used to be the place where you went and you saw the highlights. They embraced it like they've watered down baseball Paul tonight. You got a Sunday night game. It's just they they they lost their spot you know they were the national pastime and then all of a sudden football blue by by the NBA became far more interesting and baseball sort of was stationary and caught up with him efforts. Aaron judge had fifty two you home Ronald there. You go thank you thank you. Peter Lonzo needs fight a time. Yeah we just showed Rob Gronkowski on the live look in in Gronk whenever he holds a press conference people think. Oh you know we could ask him about coming back and playing. GRONK holds a press conference because he's got a new product something about CBD. I mean he'll probably probably have a couple of press conferences this year. He's doing both flexible do WWe E and then people will ask him and he had a tweet yesterday where people were reading into it that maybe GRONK is coming back. I would be surprised if he does come back. It just like Andrew Luck. You know what the reason why you're retiring. You don't want to go back to the reason why you're retiring like hey. This game isn't fun. I'm injured. I have surgery all the time yeah. Andrew Luck is going to go back. He's only twenty nine or Gronk. What is he thirty one. Oh yeah he'll go back. No that the reason why he's in the situation is because of the game you don't. WanNa go back to the reason why you wanted to retire in the first place I'm also looking at the Patriots here with or without until Neo Brown so they're big favorites against the dolphins and then they've got New York. The got the jets then they got the bills. They got Washington then. They got the giants then the jets again. That's a that's a pretty good opening schedule there the first couple months of the season where you go on it. They might be double digit favorites in all of those games. Maybe not at buffalo maybe not but the jets the giants what now at Washington they may maybe double digit favorite their Cleveland well who knows what Cleveland's GonNa be like when they host Cleveland but I'm curious about that is the line still eighteen dies eighteen. Yes it last night so it's probably going to stay there well. I don't know if if Antonio Brown doesn't play does that affect the line probably probably not not much but what about this history of Tom Brady struggling in Miami. I know I would take eighteen but I don't gamble we can call a guy on your behalf yeah but I there's so many times when I go. Oh Gosh this. This is easy but a so again blur usually tells you when he does well. It's rare when the gambler goes. Hey I got roughed up today. I want one for seven yeah point yeah. I had a bet last week that I won and trumpeted here and I I. I made a little bit on army to cover the other day but that's that I was going to make a big bet on the Patriots to not cover over against the steelers patriots are notorious for starting slow in September and I didn't think the steelers are GonNa win but I thought they were going to cover and I was going to put a sizable bet and I didn't but that's it's terrible. I was going to bomb that one. You don't WanNa go down that road. You don't you don't yes. I think we to is a tough week to bat tubes week. We we all everything we learned week. One was an aberration right. Did you tell us all things never work out the way they do week one. Well you think you've got your team. Everybody wants to figure figure out their team or somebody else's team after week one like I don't. I don't know what to expect from Cleveland. I don't know what to expect from Tennessee. I don't know what to expect from the raiders. 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Greg Olson / Raiders sign Richie Incognito

Vegas Nation - Raiders Football

25:40 min | 1 year ago

Greg Olson / Raiders sign Richie Incognito

"Like i said to bring a right kind of people here. We think that can build championship football in the most loyal fans in the world and i know it hurts that we might not be the oakland raiders forever but we are still raider nation. I think it's going to be a a <hes>. He'll get an army coming into las vegas. It's time for the vigorous nation podcast with your host heidi fangs and michael balcon. Everyone it's time for another edition. The vegas nation podcast brought to you by s. t. and sports mobile stations casino right now. It is a tuesday and we are here at the raiders headquarters in alameda where there was some big news here with the team today in this o._t. A session with the signing of richie incognito and we're gonna get into all of that and more but first it's time to welcome adam hill to the podcast joining michael belkin and myself to the vegas nation podcast adam great to have you along with us for the right but welcome to the beat. Oh thank you it's a it's going to be out here and <hes> good 'antonio brown as we talked about earlier to you know we'll have his speaking to the media debut at the o._t. As this year after missing one session last week and i it was big news even though it was kind of a minor deal but yeah very recorded out here look forward to join you guys on on the on the podcast on the beat and on raiders governor general should be very cool and <hes> this big season before they get into vegas. It's kind of already looking at him as our team and this tuesday day we're talking. Now is the perfect example. I think of what you can expect adam that the raiders we don't know when a loss what it's gonna it'd be but they are never boring and the signing of regime cognitive to a one year contract from football standpoint certainly understand why the raiders did what they did. I mean he's as a as you mentioned a four time. Pro bowler heidi someone who immediately joins the mix to start at left guard which was really the one area on the raiders starting offensive line. That was a question mark and he's probably the favourite to start their identity. Oh good he's the one who has been seen work with the ones prior to incognito arrival but <hes> do an injury. It doesn't sound to be overly serious a good it was not at practice on tuesday so incognito despite having just been signed this morning corning was working with the first team unit <hes> but of course as it relates to incognito is not just about football you go back to his time at nebraska. There are multiple incidences. This is where he was suspended. Do behavioral issues and it's <hes> over the course of time. I think we have a better sense of exactly what those issues are and it's. It's not just someone acting out. There's a real mental health situation there for which he has sought treatment and he was out of football entirely in two thousand eighteen while getting some of the help that he felt he needed in certainly many felt he needed <hes> and now that he's with the raiders. They believe he's in the right mental state. He's in the right. Physical condition really impressed team at a workout earlier this month in now. It's about a having a plan in place. Mike mayock says a plan in place to make sure after that in god neto is accessible not just on the field but probably more importantly probably more importantly off the field because incognito isn't getting the help instructor that he needs leads away from the field. You'll never be able to contribute to society or on field really anywhere else and just be who can be off the field as was on so that's kind and where this move is not just about the football player it's about the human and the raiders <hes> signed up for it all by adding incognito adam we know that he has a chequered passes michael's mentioned and we were talking a little bit about the hard knock show and how perhaps with this cast and the signings they've had that maybe <hes> this is the team to feature on hard knocks h._b._o. What do you make of that. Do you think that right now what michael was the leading to all of the issues that incognito has been through and his mental state of mind that this is going to be any way beneficial for that team to have richie incognito featured on hard hard knocks we'll. I think it's going to find out if they're actually going to to pick them. I think the raiders would certainly prefer to be on their next year. <hes> use it as an introduction to vegas. I think the the league would almost prefer that happens next year. I think is intriguing. The raiders are and being one of five teams that can't say no and hard knocks wants them. They kind of have to <hes> accept it. I i just feel there's going to be so much work done to try to make sure it happens next year as opposed to this year but this certainly does make the more interesting and i think he cognitive. I think we have to get into all of the factors that go into you know whether you're signing or not and whether it's beneficial for him to be playing football again whether they are enabling him to <hes> to you know to do whatever he's going to do and and i don't know if it's better to be playing football. I don't know i've i think it's a very complex in deep issue <hes> but i think the first thing even talk about him as a football player <hes> because i think the mental stuff and the off the field stuff is more important which is strictly from a football perspective and i certainly were michael's take on this. Where is he because he made the pro bowl last time he played in buffalo live two years ago two thousand seventeen but he was clearly better in two thousand sixteen. I thought he tailed off significantly in two thousand seventeen and then didn't play at all last year. I don't know the warriors football player. If you've listened to today you heard mike mayock say hey everybody here watched him for you. Know basically you know to rapson was like yet go. He's good we can sign him. He's in good shape but i just don't know a guy that that you know was already starting to to kind of hit. The downside sat out a year had everything go wrong mentally italy off the field and then now trying to play again. I just don't know where he is is football player especially if they're gonna count on him to be an impactful player yeah they're entirely different players but i can't help but think of marshawn lynch who he was hit a year away from football he was retired than the raiders suddenly acquired them and then it was the same question of what are you getting as a football player and marshawn ended up having to really productive seasons certainly when healthy he was fantastic he had construction finally games of his initial season with the club and then last last year he had the october groin injury but overall he was very productive incognito a year away from football as well obviously very different reasons but you know can he come back fresher sure now that he's away from it. I think it's key to point out. He's thirty five years old. He turns thirty six here shortly. This is a guy who has a tough the meter about him. I mean he's been the trenches a lot and he's taken bumps along the way he adds toughness to the raiders offense align. But how much are you able to get out of him in the raiders. Do you need sixteen games. I've been called mediocre. There's a chance he suspended for the first four over how many games to start the year and so you have them in your system now if the n._f._l. Decides do pass incidences incidents that they're going to suspend him well. Maybe now we're only talking about twelve games ten games and maybe they're comfortable about <unk> how his body will be able to sustain over the you know just a wear and tear that would come with that so <hes> i think it remains to be seen you look great here on a tuesday for a guy who was just signed hours earlier but no pads on until training camp and i don't think the raiders are gonna be able to answer that question themselves adam until things get rolling rolling in july and august and the preseason as things pick up from there. Will we have the chance also to speak with greg olsen the offensive coordinator for the raiders and and i'm very curious to hear what he had to say about incognito we will get to that interview a bit later here in the show but switching gears <hes> wide receiver antonio antonio brown. He's somebody that we got to see today out on the field working out and i think that the offensive wide receiver the outlook for this team right now. It's huge. You have guys like trent brown. Now you know richie. Incognito starts at the guard position. You have a solid offensive line. If you look at the the people who could be the starter is potentially as well as the addition tyrone williams that we've talked about and just some of the draft picks like josh jacobs. The offense is really shaping up so i'm very intrigued to hear what greg olsen had to say with you michael but what are you guys make about antonio brown coming out and i kind of look at him really working out with the full team here at the o._t. As i think you can have a lot of questions about this offense or this team but until you browns not really one of them <hes> as much as themes ended the way they ended in pittsburgh who uses a football player of the type of physical condition that we expected on tuesday seem in. I think it was all as anticipated anticipated and i think he fits the bill. You look at the way he set the tempo from a work ethic standpoint as obviously as reporters we only have so much of a window to that we're not in meetings meetings and we're not in the weight room and those sorts of things but by all accounts he's setting that tempo and guys are following his lead and so he wants to be great and he has been great and when you have someone in your locker room who just carries himself that way it can have a pretty profound influence in the locker room and so i will see over the course of the coming months but i think on tuesday you know you see him just after a play even if he didn't catch surpass he's talking to the d._b.'s. Let them know that he was open loan. He's going to still become an and then just being friendly with them camaraderie. It's all coming from a good place and certainly his tone was very welcoming to all his teammates and so just a small snippet because this is the first time we've seen him practices media even though he's been a regular participant throughout this voluntary workout program tuesday oce last week aside when he was absent. I thought he looked pretty good. I bet you yeah. I mean i thought listen. There's no question about antonio brown. It's a player like you know when he's on the field. He's gonna make plays. He's gonna he's gonna be an impactful guy even if he's not involved in the actual play like he's gonna draw defense. He's going to be fantastic as as a player. I i think the questions go kind of off the field that we were talking about incognito. We've seen off the field issues. Antonio brown has been more. How is he in the locker room like it seemed like his teammates really enjoyed him so far but of course he's only been here a little while <hes> and you can look at the situation in pittsburgh say was it him was it rothlisburger and i think everybody has their opinions about where that went. But how much of a distraction does he be calmer or if there are things that are going on in the locker room. Does it become an issue and now you start to look look at the mix and when you have guys like incognito antonio brown <hes>. There's like this whole dynamic. Of how do they all fit together. <hes> does incognito coming in become a problem the tony brown not that they're you know relating all the time they can stay away from each other. It's a big locker room but i think all those factors come into play here. So far you know you watch off the field. We had had the media session with antonio brown today his teammates walking by they're kind of you know messing with them a little bit making sounds and they're kind of shout back each other that looks good and that's encouraging and i think that's fine line but again it's very early in this process and everybody's figuring each other out and where they stand. It's easy for him car to have a great relationship right now because because it's not as and it's off season. They haven't lost a game yet. How does that all work together. I think that's that's where the question comes into play and i think it all ties back in. I wanted to go back incognito with this. A little bit is how much does bring in a guy like that. In impact this process of of forming the team. They've talked so much about character and foundation everything else then you have guys like in the draft. Hey we're taking these guys because we believe in them as people as characters as everything else building what we want to build here but then you bring an incognito. It's it's like well. Where is where does that stand is. He may be just like the sandpaper to kind of get everything going. Is that what they believe and is antonio brown that same kind of character and how to all those those pieces fit together that that i think is the big question you know you don't really have answers on that yet but you're starting to see some of the you know the formation of all of those things right now and it's a it's a lot of questions to answer in and it really won't play out until we see it on the field but <hes> a lot of interesting mix kind of going on with this team right now. I think keeping within tonio brown is he was in pittsburgh burke for nine years and so it wasn't like he joined. This team made a pro bowl and things just blew up because he was the type of guy who just couldn't didn't get along well with teammates. I mean he was there for almost a decade in iran's course very clearly and very publicly into ugliest where the end but it's a couple of months in and i i think based on what we've seen from antonio brown and how derek carr i think does a good job of handling different personalities. I don't think this is going to be a problem and if it is a problem. I don't think it will be a you're one. I think this thing a three year contract. I very easily could see both sides going through this will arrangement this contract and coming out clean on their side <hes> from interpersonal standpoint and as it relates to incognito can team. He will be guys in the past obviously not everyone. I jonathan martin road but you know he's he's dealt with what he's dealt with but he's also a guy who was voted media good guy one year for the miami miami dolphins i mean he's the guy who assert teammates swear by and so we often vilify those who have dealt with very public issues. I think as media as fans culture there and i don't think we should vilify tonio brown. We vilify incognito and you know we'll see the about perfect and we'll go down the list and i'm not making guy but there's <hes> there's there's a chance here that these guys are going to be great teammates with each other and all of this falls on jon gruden his ability to make it work to keep these light to keep guys in the same room together and it sounds like he's done that. I think peter eighteen spoke to jon gruden recently mcewen a peer keenum now n._b._c. sports and there was a family feud game that that gruden created for certain players to participate in. I believe perfect <unk> brown might have been on the same team but just finding creative ways to have everyone one gel. I think we're seeing that continue to see that. So i'm a bit of an optimist i think there's a relates to some aspects of its early antonio brown like complexity to it when we start talking about camilo in perfect but again. We'll just see how it goes. I think i'm the same page with you adam. I don't think hamanaka's come into the raiders this year. Next next year is more likely but we can all agree that all the raiders might not be cast for it. They had the characters. This would be an interesting program and fortunately only if h._b._o. Is a following it we will in. I remember the golden knights when said that they were like a band of misfits they came together and that's what kind of field their team in some respects respects i can look at the raiders right now and look at this roster and say yeah that's almost the same kind of fuel here that misfit fuel but maybe they're not necessarily people with chips on their shoulders but they are people who do have something to prove especially coming off a foreign twelve season the the raiders had last year and gruden with the big payday and the ten year contract and everybody kind of saying well what happened in the first year will now. We have the new era of mike mayock here and <hes>. I think that this will definitely be telling season for the raiders. You had the chance today michael to sit down with the offensive coordinator greg olsen. I'd love to hear his take take on some of these big names coming to the team. What can you tell us about your interview with greg olsen and what did he have to say particularly about incognito as today yeah we kinda bounced around on different topics but what makes olson a good person to speak to on tuesday the day the raider signing cognito is that he's coached incognito you know with the saint louis rams from oso seven olson was offense coordinator and this is very early in in cognitive n._f._l. Career but still you know he's known him for a really long time. He mentioned in the interview in a little bit of a scam report what to expect and he and i kinda bounced around on with other players on his offense. Sir including running back josh jacobs tight end aaron waller and then also just talk about life a little bit because he was the raiders up into coordinator in two thousand thirteen in fourteen so he and his family lived in the bay area and then olsson gets dismissed goes to jacksonville jaguars to be there. Oh see he's for two seasons <unk> join the l._a. Rams as quarterbacks coach for a year then he comes back to oakland so i asked him just a little bit about family dynamic of being one place it's moving as a coach returning and so again also nice big lot. We start with incognito when he's a very good football player and he has been for for a long time. I've personally known ritchie for thirteen years now and i've seen the ups and downs of his career and but we've always stayed in contact always touches other teams. I've been with a reach out and try to bring him on those teams because i have a belief in ritchie and i believe khalid with right coaching can be very productive player in this league in a very good team rank so you know we we saw the opportunity area having having worked workforce did a nice job in his workout. He's <hes> recommitted. He's gotten help that. He needs works. I'd have him on the team. Maybe the a play from the day of two days not as practice on seven seven win. Derek carr threw a deep pass darren waller free tight window. He's able to bring it in an and it felt like a play. We've seen jerk. Make over the years and obviously cooks production. It's difficult to replace but what struck you. Maybe about that play but the bigger picture released waller. He's gonna lead athlete. You of those guys that you're fortunate to have on the team when we think he's one of those players at the tight end. What's the yeah the uh-huh off the the the the product right trump working hard to get the job jacob. Somebody who workload in alabama's probably went eto. Coach wants to see where it was run to the ground by any stretch of imagination. There's a lot of tread on the tires that remain obviously you have some debt backfield assault jalen what he did last season andrei and doug and all that but that being said what do you hope from to ask if you'd be able to ask from the rookie in his first season well. We're still a long ways away from playing her first game but <hes> certainly based on where you draft the play. We'd draft him in the first round so there's high expectations expectations for <hes> from us. There's high expectations. He has himself and we're going to try and get acclimated to our offense as quickly as possible and the more he's able to take on and certainly the more responsibility will give him and again. We're a long ways away from playing at first game so we'll know when we get through the training camp and we get through those four preseason games just where he's at whether or not he's he's ready to be the number one back and be able to take on a bigger workload. You're less with the raiders before being hired in two thousand eighteen in two thousand fourteen dirks rookie season and there's a few year period there where you're elsewhere than obviously coming back to this area <hes> what was that dynamic like for you and your family just to be fear than to go and then to return. Are you guys live in the same neighborhood good same houses before what's what does that boil on very fortunate. You know i'm fortunate to the oakland raiders organization and mark davis and really reggie mckenzie jon gruden the the people let me brought me back here <hes> than that very often <hes> i've been fortunate. I've been with three teams now. Twice on on two different stints with three teams teams and again that was offensive coordinator greg olson with our own michael. Elkin are raiders beat writer. You can find all of the articles that michael rights and that atom rights says well now on review journal dot com look for that raiders n._f._l. Tab and you'll find all of the stories and also imprint so we will always come to you with all the best s. interviews exclusives that will try to get here for you as the campaign off season progresses a next step for us. There's another o._t. Session but after that there will be the mandatory mandatory minicamp and <hes> we will hope to get here for that as well in person and bring you all video and photos and everything up to date but as we wrap things up here. I just wanted to get your take on. Maybe adam something that really stood out to you today from the off season training yeah i mean i think <hes> you know just being out here and for me first time out here so that was kinda cool just kind of experience. <hes> you know what it's gonna be like here. Go covering the raiders and be up in in alameda but certainly for me. All eyes were on antonio brown. I just wanted to see what he looked like. There and you know we saw what we expected. I think from him. He's he's such a dynamic playmaker. You can see even without without the pads and just kind of going through the motions how good he could be made a nice way one handed catch during early portion of of the session today and to see how he kind of fit in and <hes> <hes> just seeing how everything kind of starting to blend together and how things are coming together for this raiders team a long way to go and <hes> you know that's what off seasons about and we'll see how <hes> how thinks formulate but i was watching a lot of antonio brown during the session. Today i know michalski to be watching every single guy all the time so i know you saw some things as well yeah i really weird and so i was looking a lot of the backup offensive lineman just the versatility. That's their that's going to be critical. Injuries almost always happen happen over for those for that group and ideally you're not gonna need a reserve to step in and start <hes> but chances are you might and certainly step yep in on a moment's notice in take the field and were be able to work with the starters and we saw brand parker <hes> someone who the raiders draft in the third round last year on north carolina anti was thrown in the fire really unfair to ask him to start twelve games but he did it at his struggles was benched against the niners he was allowing three consecutive of sacks of a second of three consecutive place in the baltimore ravens and just took his lumps but you see him on the field tuesday and he rotates them with the ones where where he sees a rep at right tackle spelling trent brown and the next snap. He's flipping sides any spelling colton miller there at left tackle and we'll see how he gets comfortable in that role. Uh i think that's gonna be prudent. You know it's gonna be a great importance to see if he's able to be that swing tackle and then likewise jordan davy a former kansas city chiefs use veteran interior offensive linemen. We saw him on tuesday work at center. We saw him work at reicher. We saw him work at left guard. He's going to be this year's john fleece yano somebody who when interior linemen goes down davey is capable of stepping right in and so how these get comfortable in his offense rick especially the center center handling just the mental drying that comes with that obviously rodney hudson is fantastic and he's been a rock. The raiders haven't needed a backup center really a but baby. It's on him to be ready for that. Opportunity should arrive and just seeing him be so versatile on tuesday. I think was a great all right well. That'll do it for us here. On the vegas biggest nation podcast again you can find us on apple podcasts review journal dot com slash podcast and anywhere else you subscribe to your podcast. 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Shy gyn done reveal too much but <hes> he has the law to things in that book to talk about. We'll check in with him. A little bit later on you like get in touch with the program. You can variety of ways email us dp. Dan patrick dot com twitter handle a d._p. Show phone number eight seven seven three d._p. Show and we say good morning to our radio and t._v. Partners the n._f._l. Kicked off its one hundred season with a game where the offense is look like the sport from a century ago. Packers and bears didn't do much green bay came out on top ten three kind of resembled a preseason game which is no accident because both of these head coaches sat there ofensive starters for most of the actual preseason so instead of a higher scoring affair that we were hoping for for got a lotta punts. We got a lot of penalties and don't be surprised if you see a few more of these games coming up this weekend and on monday night teams aren't getting quite used to that contact during the preseason so takes a little while get the timing down. Keep in mind that you're gonna have a couple of outliers remember last year. The buccaneers beat the saints in new orleans forty eight to forty opening weekend. Don't read too much into it. Sometimes we do we overreact already got bears fans ends jumping off the mitchell trubisky boat that didn't take long and <hes> you know these games may not look like they're gonna look in a couple of weeks but it is is still week one of the n._f._l. Season and the games count you can lose a preseason game where you don't look that good and it's the preseason bears lost a big game. Um you lost at home. You lost to the packers and questions about mitchell. Trubisky are going to linger here for a little while but keep this in mind. We love to overreact. That's why on monday. It's overreaction monday during the n._f._l. Last year mitchell trubisky twenty three thirty five one hundred seventy one yards. It's no touchdowns sacked four times week. One this year twenty six of forty five to one hundred twenty eight yards touchdowns sacked five times both losses to the packers. Let's slow our roll here just a little bit with mitchell trubisky because i think aaron rodgers didn't look great last night. Yes mclovin yeah. Trubisky was bad last year and he's going to be bad this year. Those numbers are correspondent overall bad. He was bad less sure. I will be bottom ten in the league dodi through for thirty two hundred yards in two thousand eighteen n._f._l. I mean his best skill is to stay out of the way and let the the bears defense get a bunch of interceptions and they didn't do it last night and they lost the game okay. It's only one game. Though are we overreact aaron. Rodgers didn't look great. I mean he threw a touchdown pass to jimmy graham that easily could have been intercepted yeah. Actually i was. I talk about overreaction to dries. Packers get sacked a lot. Twitter was firing being matt leflore about fifteen minutes a game last night. Packers fewest points allowed in a road game since twenty fifteen so if i'm a packers fan and you assume rodgers will be rogers. She'll be great working some of those new receivers in <hes> but the defense is what stood out you know. The defence is much much-improved and if you go back to win. Aaron rodgers won a super bowl. He had a top ten defense. You you have to have that in. Today's game may not be the best defense but you gotta have a competitive defense and they put one on the field last night. Ya'll just check the stats of packers. Currently the number one ranked defense in the n._f._l. Oh after one one game currently yeah. I would think the bears are bright. They're ranked on bears. Bears are second in the n._f._l. Until terrified by the way yeah do khalil max awesome. Yeah did look good. Dan patrick show brought to you by truecar they show you what other people paid for the car you want so you can recognize a good price when you're ready to buy a new or used car visit truecar and enjoy more competent competent car buying experience some of the reaction from last night. Here's aaron rodgers. He's happy for his rookie. Coach matt leflore after last kneel down a held on that ball because i wanted to give it to matt <hes> and like i said you know it's a big deal when your first n._f._l. Game as a head coach. I'm happy for him to see a lot of fun working with them. I told him i'm going to be a lot better forward but <hes> i'm excited about the season. I'm excited about these guys all right. Everything's good after a victory like that. <hes> it was i thought it was a little the playcalling looked a little dicey there i think after awhile roger sort of almost got up to speed and how fast the bears were on defense and then he started to change a little bit more of his philosophy there yeah paulie so now aaron rodgers handing out game balls head coach usually handles those they getting underway but now that's spinning green bay press gazette or whatever wow yeah whose team is this. It's errands tie like that. It's almost like watching watching it. As thinking that leflore was calling the plays at first and they did absolutely not the and then rogers was like buddy. Let me just yeah. I got this okay. Let me let me help you out here and that's swear you both put up. You know one of those <hes> those programs right to your mouth to say you did okay to start. I mean it look you're new to this. Let me take it over from here. Here's the coach okay all right. Okay all right. Thank you thank you thank you so very much disaster. Aaron did talk about the great defense last night as well. Obviously i hold myself to high standard standard and i didn't play great tonight but the watch defense like that. Mana gives you a lot of confidence about where this team can go in a game that most people thought we were going to get probably trounced to have them klay that well into winning a tough environment against the reigning n._f._c. nor champs. That's gonna be fun. Slain ride okay. I don't think everybody thought you were going to get trounced. Three point weeds spread there. I've got you win. The division. Nobody believes shocked the world. Wow wow i didn't know aaron rodgers the greatest quarterback of all times an underdog able to corral wral mitch trubisky train yeah unless you yeah yes mclovin yeah plucky little air rogers and by the way today only two hundred thirteen a yard last night yeah the last place offense last year was the cardinals a two hundred forty yards per game. They were terrible as their offense did nothing well. I have to give credit to what might be the best defense in the n._f._l. Yet the bears yes. They're really good. Yes so i'm they're gonna shut down a lot of quarterbacks this year. There was a criticism criticism of the bears coming the season. A lot of people said they will revert back to normal turnover rate and won't be able to win and they didn't get any last year sure. They got so many turnovers that i feel like they need. Those defensive plays to win game. Well you also need mitchell trubisky to complete some big passes there. They have have incredible running backs. They're like you have four or five running backs. It feels like alan. Robinson was pretty good last night. He was open. I think a lot more than <hes> <hes> you know the receptions will show it's trubisky is going to have to figure this out and i think there is that adjustment period of you don't play the preseason and then you go into live action in there and you have a pretty stout secondary that green bay secondary's good really good chance to be great. Here's the bears head coach matt nagy not on the fans in their reaction last night like i said to to our to our fans <hes> they have every bill every right to bill so we get it the way they showed up tonight and how crazy rowdy they were and how supportive they were of our team yeah and then they started to boo you that was after two quarters. They started to boo booing almost immediately. Oh michael is gone. The birds of showed up thank god their field. Goal kicker made that kick. He's legit well. I think he might be a legit from forty yards in he should retire yeah. That's a walk off their. I've never ever i've never been more nervous for somebody given that situation after the double drink last year and eddie panero bread gets out there and and <hes> nails his field goal and then you just see him on the sidelines. He's got thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you yeah mclovin then they had a fourth inten later in the game and would have been a fifty one yard untapped yeah. They weren't bringing him out. There was no way no. We're not going to subject you to that. Yes how awesome is having in a i in forty though in a game that had one last night yes time he's gotta be tougher. Someone that's called offensive grew to have to admit after the opening game at at home against their arch-rivals that their performance was unacceptable and that's the word he used in the press press conference. Yeah was unacceptable yeah. Everybody is just waiting to see a rare success is tied to mitchell trubisky. That defense can be great. You know if you hold aaron rodgers to ten points. You think that you're going to be green bay. You should be it green bay at home so that would be my big concern with that. How comfortable did he look the one thing that he wanted to work on the off season was to make sure were that you went through your progressions and you didn't just take off and run because he's very athletic quarterback but to be great at that position you have to fight that urge ed steve young had to fight that urge that you look not their go mitch ran on his first drop. I drop back last night. He ran and almost got. I at all right. The raiders situation is fluid. We don't know what's going to happen with antonio brown. I think you have a good cop. Bad cop situation jon gruden good cop a. ebi come here. You know we're in business together mike mayock. He's got to be the bad cop here. I'm going to be shocked. If the raiders suspend antonio antonio brown i might be in the minority here but if jon gruden has any hopes of being successful. It's tied antonio brown. I only need you on sunday. Mike mayock i. I don't think it was handled. Well on either side antonio brown. You know who he is. Mike mike mayock doesn't need to challenge him in front of other people a month ago is when you challenge him two weeks ago you challenge him but you do that privately and maybe he did but to do it in front of his teammates and that's the problem mike knox job is to put talent on the field not not take talent off the field and you're going to have a good cop bad cop here. It feels like this is when jon gruden as gotta be a._b._c.'s big big brother. He's got to be as advisor. He's got to help him through this. Whatever antonio brown is dealing with now. I still believe that he bought into a brand. He's he's not antonio brown around anymore that great underdogs storing. He's a brand and he thinks he's bigger than what he really is and i think that's a concern here with the raiders. We need you to play by. Why are rules. People are watching how we handle you. We can't have fifty two guys that have one set of rules and then you. I mean we can be a little more lax with you. Your personality finality understanding the injuries. We get it but helmet okay. It feels like a lot of this is contrived by him and mike mayock did not handle this. Well you know who he is. In that personality mike mayock yesterday talking about not talking about antonio brown. Antonio neil brown's not in the building. Today won't be practicing <hes>. I don't have any more information for you right now and when i have some and it becomes appropriate you guys all all get. I promise you but that's it for today. No he does have information. He just chose not to share it. You're you're the only one who has that information. Here's jon gruden. Wouldn't he's not going to comment on antonio brown. I'm not gonna get into all this. If you wanna ask about the raiders i i i've been talking about. I've been talking about the same guy. Every day is the first time i've seen yeah but like i said i don't have. I don't have much to give you other than he's not here today. I won't get an opportunity to get some more information. We will yeah you do have information mation. These are two informer media guys. You can't sit there and go yeah. We're not gonna comment. That's all you did is comment on other people other other players other situations. Tell me what your role is in this john. Can you salvage this. How do you salvage this. Who's in charge here because it's still john gruden's team. Not mike mayock steam. Here is jon gruden talking about his emotions about antonio brown. I'm emotional abiding hope. You hope you understand why. I think a lot of this guy and they antonio is a great great receiver and i think deep down. He's a really good guy so i'm frustrated. I'm not gonna say any more about it. Hope it all works out it better it better because he is extremely valuable to him. You cannot be surprised if you're the raiders you cannot mike may. I can't be surprised jon. Gruden can't be surprised. You knew this was not a matter of if but when you would have another issue with antonio brown and when it first started i cautioned shouldn't everybody. This is a pattern here. This is who he is. That's what happened with the steelers. They allowed him until they couldn't anymore but if you say how how did you get to this point here what are what are some of the conversations you had with him because mike mayock doc challenging antonio brown granted antonio brown was wrong to put it out there and show the world. I'm sure they probably had a private conversation to say. Look look. We're finding you know we're going to find you and we have to find you. Then you wanna put it out there. Publicly you can't then go public blake with antonio brown because then you're you got to maintain some decorum here. You're the general manager and antonio brown challenging ellen ging mike mayock to a fight in whatever he said okay. He doesn't have to see mike mayock. He only has to see jon gruden. That's the key and jon gruden can tolerate this put up with this not lose. The rest of his team than antonio brown is going to be playing for the raiders and i think playing waiting for the raiders probably monday night against denver. You're not that good. The team's not that good you need everybody there and you certainly need read into neo brown. We'll come up with the poll question here. We'll check in with the raiders. Rich eisen will join us a little bit later on as well eight seven seven three d._p. Show it's seventeen seventeen after the hour. This is the dan patrick show. Everybody's got it to do this. I get one for my wife. 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Sail university can take classes on the web or you can be on campus as well. Dan patrick sportscasting go to full sail dot e._d._u. Slash dan patrick. I had a couple of a numbers here. Police got the ratings for last night as well. The thirteen combined points scored by the packers and bears last night fewest in the n._f._l. In a season opening thursday night kickoff game since the format began in two two thousand two. So what kind of ratings do you think you had for packers bears last night. I didn't like the match up. I think the rest of the country wasn't wasn't interested in the bears the packers rivalry here. I know the one hundredth anniversary. I needed to see the patriots last night. Do you think the ratings do you guys all. Oh you guys think the ratings for the n._f._l. Opener up or down from the previous year last year. What was the game andrew eagles falcons. I believe i'm gonna say this was down up up slightly. I'm gonna say up based on police setup correct exactly that's exactly right according to john of sports business journal their way up the overnights for n._b._c. They're up fifteen point three. They got a fifteen point three overnight rating <hes> up about fourteen to fifteen percent from last season one of the biggest jumps in in a long time now what what do you think is the main reason for this because it wasn't the matchup according to john orient <hes> nothing else on betting. He said he believes legalize. Sports betting is now enacted much more than it was. It was being legalized last year this time now's legalized and a lot of states online betting you can do it from your phone. Amongst the markets where the ratings were way up pittsburgh plus twenty three percent rating from last year providence rhode island up thirty six percent to margaret's that have statewide mobile betting. You don't have to go somewhere. You can do it on your phone. John is crediting part of the big increased betting. I think you have ten states. Who've legalized this and nine more in the on deck circle local that are going to do this. I mean it's it's a matter of time here before. It's just going to be prevalent relevant to the game where the broadcasters are going to be talking about this more overtly overtly al michaels will occasionally do that later in the game where the over under maybe but you know a lot of these networks are having courage courage there broadcasters to not acknowledge betting but it's coming. It's going to be opened the door and let everybody in on this. It's interesting interesting that if if i if we announced that <hes> john and around so that the ratings were down fifteen percent and that'd be the entire topic this week on sports media the n._f._l. Is suffering. I'm whatever reason whatever reason crates reasons but no one's gonna talk about ratings being up fifteen percent. No i think if the ratings were down i would say see i told you the bears and packers occurs. Don't play around the country and i don't. I still don't think it was a great match for thursday night. I wanted to see the defending champs. I wanted to have the ring ceremony. You know the the you know the bells and whistles they're with the patriots and you could had them playing against kansas city. I mean you could have had a monster game. Yes mclovin is is it possible to air roger so because i found him slightly captivating last night and he's he is probably one of the two or three most popular players yeah the mustache a new code. I don't think it makes tuning in because there's a new coach while not if aaron rodgers fights fights with day there everyone was geared for that yeah. Maybe that's just sort of insiders. Probably i don't i don't i mean i. I was watching leflore just because i wanted to see how he was reacting when aaron rodgers was getting sacked and what kind of play calling there would be what kind of relationship that they had you know. Were they communicating with each other. Did they hang out on the sideline. You don't tune into a game to go. I oh i can't wait to see the quarterback and coach on the sunlit yup. I think they chose the bears. Packers based on history and the hundred is obvious but one hundred of the n._f._l. Nate ignored the fact that pat homesh be in that game. Patrick mahomes is big draw in football right now and you think if it wasn't one hundredth anniversary of the n._f._l. They would not have gone bears packers. Yes mclovin. I still think roger's bigger tiger. I personally think he's a bigger draw. Really he's a superstar yeah. I think aaron rodgers a big deal. I know mahomes is a big star but i think it takes time to establish. I think more people people be curious. Patrick mahomes and aaron rodgers actual fan so eh rogers like my wife goes. We know what to expect from aaron rodgers. We're we were wild by patrick moment. When's the last time you were wild. Byron rogers the most talented quarterback in n._f._l. History so we've been told you mean because we've seen before i mean i know aaron. Rodgers is great but i don't know if you go wow like the throat jimmy graham. You didn't go but there's no other quarterback and make that throw patrick. Mahomes still doing things that we haven't seen or haven't seen seen in a long time and there's a curiosity there plus. I think most people look at kansas city and say they are going to the super bowl. I don't know if many people are saying green unbased going to the super bowl plus. You have great offense there with kansas city and people wanna see offense green bay's offense. You still not sure what it's going to be the bears offense if you're not sure what it's going to be kansas city's offense you know what it's going to be. I think they're speaking from like a real. You're like an n._f._l. Insider yeah all that's true but i think to the casual normal fan aaron rodgers has been at the top of the game for eight years like i think it takes a little wide of establish that i could be totally wrong but i don't know that like everybody knows mahomes yeah. He's great but aaron. Rodgers has been an institution on t._v. For a decade i know but you're not tune. If you tune in to see the patriots you're either fascinated by them or you're hoping they lose one way or another. They're polarizing. Packers aren't polarizing aaron rodgers. You watch him say all right. I guess i unless unless you watch and you go. He's supposed to be the greatest quarterback who ever played the game. The curiosity is with patrick mahomes because what he did last year kenny do it but this year. What's this offense going to be like. He's young and hot. I mean that's what people wanna see. We've seen what rodgers can do now. Is there tune-in factor. Yes with most of these quarterbacks but i don't know of people outside of the midwest went. I gotta watch aaron rodgers tonight. I think roger's there's very national. He's not amid nothing about him. Is this rivalry. The rest of the country is not concerned about bears and packers right but like you said gambling fantasy. There's no local n._f._l. Games people in in atlanta care about a jacksonville game. They have something riding on it. Okay i know the gambling aspect. I mean mean fantasy and gambling is huge. I mean i used to watch games that i gambled on just because i gambled on them. How many times have you been around somebody who says i got to put puts up on this game or i'm not gonna watch it that happens all the time yes see well and plus since they started carving out games on their own separate night right where there's monday night football on sunday night football and thursday night football that makes every team national that makes every team because you're just wanna watch football and now well. It's just these two guys on instead of my i taste. Just watch them. Because normally you know in a previous generation. You weren't seeing all of these teams and now everybody gets their opportunity. You can you can tune in to watch your team and you might get a chance to be on sunday night or monday night or thursday night. Yes for. I can appreciate what you're saying. With the well fact i i would have much rather have seen mahomes after what he did last year like the changing hands to convert a third down play on monday night football you know when you see things like that and you that unpredictable about the different things he can do his body. The chiefs would have been a good way to go at the browns would have been that the brown would have been my choice now. If you're going to do thursday they night opening up. I would've had cleveland and then at that allows you to still keep a great match up on sunday night but bears packers. I get it the one one hundred serie. I understand. I understand the timing yes he. Don't you feel like the browns though are going to be terrible in their first game sort of like every team is like last night. Both of those teams teams were awful and probably because none of their stars had played yet so that was all there. I look at getting actual real football action. Every team is going to be terrible week. Once you might as well just burn this one but i also i think people are going to tune into watch the browns to either see them be great or self employed and the media is in love with they can't get enough of the cleveland browns. Yes mclovin mclovin. Do the networks go to save these games. Though like doesn't like fox c._b._s. We want the browns a week. One or n._b._c. says we want to steal patriots. Ah succeed mercedes or something strategic well. We'll burn this game and then we'll get the big rating on sunday with the patriots steelers yeah paul i think he may have a point because i was looking at the browns scheduled date they start with the titans which is not a good national matchup except for the browns part of it but then the next two weeks at the jets monday night football and then at home versus the rams sunday eh to primetime games in a row and a third primetime game so the the browns have three prime time national games before mid october and then the patriots in a four o'clock game week eight see. I thought that it would be the patriots in brown's thursday night. All i thought that that that would be the great matchup. I'd be curious what those ratings would've been compared to last night. They would have been monsters that that would have been no no offense to the monsters at midway. Hey by the way they brought back some a bunch of members at eighty five bears last night. It's about time they got there. Do they are not on scholarship in that town after her roger's got sacked a couple of times police sends a text he goes <hes> this bears defense is reminding me of something i go all god. We can't start this early. I was talking with that one because everyone else was saying in reality yeah yes. I put up a poll on twitter which which title annoys you most in your chicago friends talk about the eighty five bears. The sixteen cubs or the jordan bulls just to get it all. It's definitely the bear oh yeah yeah. It's the most over cover title of all time shuffle. Those guys are still on scholarship. None of those guys have bought a beer in that town probably not eighty. The no need to is good to see jim mcmahon. No he'll great great. I'm happy for him. 'cause he went through some really really dark times there and he didn't come back for all that stuff back in the day. They do all these reunions autograph. Signings mcmahon was notoriously absent. He kinda got back in and when they did that documentary a few years ago and then with his health issues he's been coming back to things mc love and you've got a poll question. Yeah <hes> op will antonio brown play for the raiders okay. Let's put it out. See what people say okay. I expect around fifty fifty because you make case but then people might say you know. It's too little too late or something well. Can you put up with this is really what it comes down to his talent. You know there's that ratio of how much we're gonna put up with within how good you are any other player. They're not putting up with this antonio brown. They have to put up with this and i thought about this when when when i saw that adam schefter said he could possibly be suspended. It took me back to board. The steelers got ripped off by the raiders. They only got a third round in a fifth round pick and then i looked at it again i go god. They stole that from the raiders. They got a third and fifth round. Pick franconia brown like it didn't take long before we flip. I bet yeah paulie. I have one more thing on the ratings last night last night. The the bears packers got a fifteen point three. That's the estimating the bears packers earned a higher overnight rating than every n._f._l. Not every non n._f._l. Sporting event of two thousand nineteen everything that's going on so far the n._b._a. Finals the college football national title game did a fourteen point six clemson alabama season oprah n._f._l. Did fifteen point three. I'm wondering if you combine the world series stories with the n._b._a. Finals all of it did that surpass last night's rating for the bears and the packers but you know it comes down to college football gambling ruling the n._f._l. Gambling fantasy. It's all it's all tied in there together yarmuk levin and that's the most popular sport a two drives the <hes> the middle of the week all fritzy. You know what's coming. You sure you want to do this but does that. Mean it's it's mock mock headlines off last night's game okay as a friend the sit this one out as a friend i would so you're not exactly selling it for me here. I know they didn't find anything remotely interesting. Oh they started the theme music academy here you go mari the headlines off last night's bears packers game. Here's taught fritz false bisky steady true false bisque. Okay ooh dear. I know i don't know if i've scares. This team doesn't remind me of all team stack. Let him go mitch slapped. I don't like them. Return of the slack khalil was good but that's about it returned to the slack return of the mack song recording okay okay what else that was offensive often tariq sauce bears cohen wrong direction like week sauce sauce sauce bears cohen and wrong direction right. I couldn't bear to watch. I thought the preseason season was over last week okay. That's that's one salvageable one. What does it. I don't think that a headline or is this statement. It's a statement statement. Headline fatema headline state line why that one was a choice not to have comedy leflore is the limit for chicago sky's the limit. Now i got i flow dole jura field off it. Being dodger fields pretty boring game sounds funny that the older field and i'll put everybody out additive misery with the last one lambeau sleep pack win snooze fest opener lamba on second thought. I think the bears packers was an entertaining game compared to those mock headlines ambos sleep. Now i got it but it wasn't at lambeau. Dull driffield false lost both bisky. 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Buying experience got a couple of college football games this weekend that are interesting am clemson dan. That's good spicy recruits. Yeah big early tests for clemson yeah. I'm interested in army against michigan u._s._c. against stanford with both teams with backup quarterbacks. They're army gave oklahoma tough time. Lash took them to overtime in that was in norman. Yes natural was amazing about that. Yes mclovin. There were some n._f._l. Writer types wait wait. We're tanking for travel lawrence. He didn't look good in week one so maybe the trevor lawrence trainer slowdown well. Nobody's tanking for trevor lawrence this year. They're tanking for two right right. They're losing for lawrence losing lawrence for to a two year tank all right derrick rose will join us a little bit later on. He's written a book. We'll check back in the raiders rich eisen from the n._f._l. Network will join us not only talk about last night games this weekend but <hes> fortieth anniversary of sportscenter got a big to to do on campus today at the mothership danettes are invited. Everybody's sort of dressed up pretty. How old is that shirt you have on this got to be mid nineties or something like that so it's a black polo e._s._p._n. Yeah i was working out like ninety four to ninety seven's. I'm just guessing for said usually from the mid ninety now. Why would you say that shirt. I was my first job at e._s._p._n. L._a. and i had a lot of great experiences in medal kinds of i've athletes and celebrities and got a chance to work with roy firestone who one of the best interviews in the business and once again. Why would you keep that. I just thought it'd be cool. Shirt hang onto have all kinds of stuff from previous places that i've worked and somethings i've thrown up at this was like the one up close item i had and i was able to squeeze into it this morning at a mike. You know we're gonna go over there for the fortieth anniversary with the townhall me everything i haven't been on campus in twelve years at that'd be kind of fun slash silly to where my old up closer. We'll thank you john. What what are you wearing is yet to wear jacket and tie a suit what's going on l. Pan is gonna be business casual. Okay i mean business but i'm going to be casual casual. When i go up there on a panel with robin roberts chris berman mike shariq oh and bobby i think so it's sort of this town hall all that we're having on the campus of the mother ship and i don't. I guess we're just talking or we get questions. Nobody's told me what we're doing. There's a moderator. I guess going gonna ask you. All there is yeah. You're not hosting. You're the guest oh okay moderator. Update the poll results. They're mclovin willie early. Antonio brown play a game for the raiders fifty. Four percent say no right now. I'm going to say yes. I'm sure that i'm going to be in the minority as the day goes on but i get the feeling there will be detente between antonio brown and mike mayock and it'll be basically jon gruden saying let me handle this. You know mike mayock shouldn't be there at practice. <hes> getting involved in antonio brown situation like you did because you're taking it personal. Your job is to put the best. I product out there and if you have to swallow and say all right. I'm not happy member mailbox the one who said you got to decide if you're all in all out i mean you gotta decide did that. Drawing a line in the sand with antonio brown is is not gonna work out with either side here. It's just not this is from mike tannenbaum. He's a former front office exempt with the jets few other teams. The significance of suspension is that it would void his twenty nine million dollars in contract guarantee so if he suspended that's twenty nine million if he is on the active roster on opening opening day or night his fourteen thousand six hundred fourteen million six hundred thousand dollars salary becomes guaranteed because he's a veteran there so you got a deadline here coming up if he's going to be on the roster and if you said i can see him on the patriots. You're not alone. It's the first thing i said that. I actually talked to fritzy yesterday and i said for some reason if he leaves i see antonio brown and the patriot way. Come on in you know the apple. So this makes more sense now that there's business involved that they can if they were going to dump him they have to suspend them for game one and they have actual proof of him of contra conduct detrimental to the team releasing company info a private company letter whatever he did his suspension letter his letter if they want to get out of antonio brown financially financially. This is the only way to do it. Yeah it makes more sense. Yes i mean this is a big decision. This is huge and you know people say well. Who's going to employ. Who's going to bring an antonio brown like like a are you kidding me. You'll have twenty teams waiting to bring him in l._a. Teams really i would say three at most three at the most host. I mean yeah if you're if you don't think you're a super bowl contender. You wouldn't bring him in and bring him in. I don't have to pay him thirty million dollars. I can bunk yes at the deal. I don't know if the deal is voided then. I can just bring you in and say. Do you wanna play for us and plus. Here's another thing to the raiders want to be tied up in litigation with this if if you if you decide that you're going to suspend him you avoid the contract. It feels like there might be you might have to negotiate a settlement here with antonio brown because drew rosenhaus is not going to let antonio brown walk away empty-handed here. I can't imagine that into the raiders in this season there last year in oakland wannabe mired in mediocrity on the field and in litigation off the field. It feels like that there would be a settlement but i i still feel oh like jon. Gruden will salvage this. Yes mclovin the thing that i wonder about brown's so he's skipping practices and he did it with pittsburgh is is that something that happens in the n._f._l. Players just don't show up for practice. I thought you came ten minutes early like tom coughlin dime. That seems like a big transgression me but if you knew he he was like this like you can't be surprised if you're oakland you can't be and i don't care how much of a hard liner mike mayock is. Jon gruden is old school in today's n._f._l. This is this is part of what goes on this is what you deal with you've got. You've got guys who it's not divas anymore. They become come brands. I mean it's even larger than that more ego driven more narcissistic. Hey i'm a brand here. Okay 'antonio brown down probably feels like hey you know what if you guys don't want me. Somebody else will and the n._f._l. Players association will step in and probably it's their job to be able to defend antonio brown and that's why it just doesn't go away unless you cut him and he signed with somebody else but if you're new england throw in a variety of teams here what are you gonna pay tonio brown. What do you have to pay antonio brown so i think that there's there's some mitigating factors here but it certainly going to be interesting. You know he's on the clock. Yes sometimes i feel like watching hard knocks and then hearing the stories away from it. They don't match up. No you know because watching hard knocks. You're like all right. Look antonio brown's working the whole time what do you i don't understand and and the team when he's walking with gruden's. You're a brand man. These guys don't understand you. You gotta take care of everybody here. We your unicorn. You know all this stuff and like that's not the way it's presented right now. Reality shows aren't reality right but neither media reports reports. Media reports aren't reality either yeah paul but i see what seton saying it feels like a music video hardbacks. All these pretty shots. He's cool cuts these these these videos of them out fishing but there's no real like thin tonio brown story is one of the best story most compelling stories in sports ugly whatever you wanna call and they had had a documentary film crew there for the entire time and they got basically nothing but jon gruden and mike mayock have final say already editing which is terrible yes which means. It's not a real show. Yes yes mclovin dad one line that caught a lot of people's attention where gruden's has antonio brown. Make sure you catch a plane. Antonio and i was like wait what he's like. He apparently wasn't going where he was supposed to and they never said it but he had not one line like oh no young for a lot of people said that made a big deal and they posted the video on social media. They caught this one pass from derek got a car the other day and he ran into the fire the football in anger at the fence and like was supposed to read into that too that just heating or something. We have a poll question do you. You think antonio brown plays monday night against denver right now. Fifty four percent of the voters think that he will not play down to fifty fifty already yeah man. There's a lot riding on this really is with may aachen gruden antonio brown and there's a whole lot of money at stake as well. We'll check in with rich eisen from the n._f._l. Network coming up here. Dan patrick show football season is around the corner and podcast one sports net has shown to help you build the best fantasy team in the league breakdown all of the latest this n._f._l. News on pro football focus fantasy football podcast vince up some picks with ross tucker fantasy. Feast understanding is ridiculous in real life. Let alone ridiculous in fantasy fantasy football take a spin with the fancy record or rise above with the underdog sports fantasy our just when you think this guy's gonna come into a season fully healthy. 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Antonio Brown Signed with the Patriots! What it means for the NFL and More!

Before the Buzzer Sports Podcasts

11:45 min | 11 months ago

Antonio Brown Signed with the Patriots! What it means for the NFL and More!

"Hello guys welcome back for another episode of before the Buzzer Sports podcast. I'm Alan in. This will be a syllabus. Owed about the `Antonio Brown signing winning what it means for the NFL. What it means for your team in what it means for the future offices just a syllabus showed in in the future? We'll be back with all three of us so I yeah. Let's get get rid into it. Have you ever thought about starting your own podcast when I was trying to get this podcast off the ground idle a lot of questions. How do I record an episode? How do I get my show into all the people like to listen? How do I make money for my podcast? The answer every one of those questions is very simple. Anchor anchors a one stop shop for recording hosting and distributing your podcast. Best of all. It's one hundred percent free in ridiculously easy to use. Is it now. Anchor can match the great sponsor who want to advertise. Who would want to advertise on your podcast? That means you can get paid to podcast right away. Way In fact. That's what I'm doing right now by reading this Ed I love anchor because it just really helps me boost what I I WANNA do. Which is podcast and get my word about sports out? So if you've always wanted to start a podcast make money doing it go to anchor DOT FM FM Slash Dart it to join me and the diverse community of podcasters already using anchor that's anchor dot. FM SLASH DART. I can't wait to your or your podcast. So yeah we're going to start off with what this means for the NFL. So basically obviously adding really superstar receiver like Antonio Antonio Brown to a team like New England. Patriots is absolutely amazing The New England patriots already really good without adding a guy like Ab will just make the team way better but I think going into the NFL. Season Bill Belichick is GONNA sit down Antonio Brown be like you know. Cut To be as the drama or your games. That's what they're here to do flat out in the end And I think he's GonNa listen because I think his entire plan personally or slander a contender. I think he never wanted to play for the raiders in the he made. It seem like it So he made of Straw which is still not a great thing to do but works he got on. He got on the Patriots hits and were basically. He wants to go to a contender. He got onto a contender announced. GonNa play alongside guys like Julian Josh Gordon and catch passes from Tom Brady But obviously this makes you know a lot of other. NFL teams really question. Russian you know like Oh my Gosh Hauer GonNa. How we'RE GONNA cover Antonio Brown Julie Josh Gordon how are we gonNA cover all these guys you know. WHO ARE WE GONNA put on Element Almond 'cause? He's an amazing slot receiver who were going to put on a be. It's GonNa be hectic in me as a Patriots Fan. I'm very happy that this is going to happen Hopefully Josh Gordon gets his act around. Doesn't get suspended again. I really hope doesn't I don't think he particularly will. I think he's clean but we'll have to see we'll definitely have to see Then that's what it means for the NFL side of things. Now we're gonNA move onto what this means for the fantasies out of the book okay. So now we're going to talk about what this means for the fantasy side of things. Obviously this does bring back. Julian bring down. Sorry Julia Donaldson and Josh Gordon. Because obviously those are going to be the top two targets. ABC's there and I think Tom Brady will be looking for a be more. Never so I think Jewish an-and will definitely his fantasy numbers project. Officially numbers will drop down a bit but obviously his first week. I think go pretty much. Be The same slated between Josh Gordon and we I don't even know maybe in later seasons of the week this may be might even bring them down even more because who knows maybe the big man gronk will be back. Who knows You know so you never really know this fantasy type stuff but obviously Juliette on Got Josh Gordon. Obviously it will be going down. Josh born probably a little bit more than Delman But probably not by much just because Tom Brady is really good at spreading the game out and finding open targets on but ah for. Tom Brady his finished. Numbers about skyrocket up. So if Tom Brady's available in your league he's definitely not available on all my leaks. He's obviously my favorite player not always draft them but if he's available in your leagues go snack. SNAP SNACK HIM UP. I'm I'm stuttering today. Like crazy I'm sorry. Go snatch him up in your league league. He's if he's available you won't regret it on. Maybe see how he plays a week then go ahead and start him. Obviously in Sleeper Dynasty Leagues. There is a flex option. Where you can play quarterbacks so you can even do that But Yeah for the fantasize things does shake up the entire patriots offense but I don't think it would too much on in. Oh yeah also for Sony Michelle Sony. Michelle probably won't go down that much. I still think they're going to run. The football. James White will definitely be taking a hit so if you did if you are Sir James Way. I suggest he's GonNa take a huge hit with the US already gonNA take a huge on an with this Taken you a bigger one so Ya just don't don't use James White us. I not really worth it. You can have on your bench though. See how he performs. Maybe he's like you know if you listen to like Matthew Berry or whatever you know see what he says but I don't think if you have James White. Starting I suggest not to see how he plays for a couple of weeks and then make your decision whether to start him or not but I know definitely do not stardom stardom week two week three patriots officer. Just GonNa get used to having Antonio Brown in the offense and obviously to marry Thomas will be taking a huge huge. Aren't even think he'll play all that much. Maybe on some sub packages whatever someone gets injured he might come in Myers I don't think he's is GonNa be that big of an impact this season Nicole. Harry's obviously gonNA come back later this year so we'll have to see how this all plays out with fantasy wise but obviously football wise allies. NFL wise decisions can be dangerous and scary. And I definitely with this move. If Antonio Brown I think Antonio Brown and put them over the edge so yes now we're GonNa talk about what this means for you know just an outlook of the NFL will look like with Antonio Neo Brown on the Patriots also talked about what it meant for the Patriots. Obviously what I said what it means to the NFL. I kinda meant what it meant for the Patriots our GonNa say what it means for the NFL But I am a Patriots Fan so obviously I love this move. I think a visa great player. I think you know he can obviously fix this personal stuff. But let's take a look. Look at you know like what is division you know people look like. Obviously you have the New York jets with his former triple B member Bells on the jets. Now you have the buffalo bills which is almost traded to March. I was kind of funny. Is On was traded. Their March Obviously he said notes that deal on basically quickly sneaking the buffalo bills like he did the Oakland Raiders who Anonymously Miami Dolphins who are absolutely getting shellacked by the Ravens Evans Right now. The dolphins will start Antonio Brown. If on your fantasy team against the dolphins because next week in Tokyo Bronson absolutely go Nutso Nutso on the dolphins because they suck. They're so bad this year. Any who on obviously for the AFC rivals the chiefs. I think that'd be a fun match up to watch. Obviously both DIV. Obviously Patriots defense is a average. Their defense is pretty good. It's pretty average. Obviously obviously with coach. Bela check it's going to be above average but as far as the town goes is pretty average chiefs defenses lackluster unlocking talking. I'm not GonNa you know sugar. Kota Devin are gonNA sugar coated Chief the events. It's very very very lacklustre. But their offense is absolutely amazing. Patrick Mahomes is amazing. quarterback absolutely amazing quarterback probably one of the greatest old time when it's all said and done title kills in amazing receiver. I would have known you what's happening right now. He just went out of the game with a shoulder injury so we have no idea what's happening with him right now but Sammy Watkins showing up right now. Obviously this offense is going to be a lot to handle sean. McCoy's there now. So we have no idea you know if the chiefs offense obviously we will have an idea if the chiefs offense can overtake the chiefs defense bullied or no if it can. I mean I'm out I'm singer now anyways but the Jacksonville Jaguars Also has really chance at going up against the Patriots. 'cause obviously they have Jalen Ramsey Egypt way they can easily clamp bob on they can easily clamp up Tony Brown join Ireland when needed Their front sevens amazing. They can probably stuff Sony. Michelle the Jacksonville. Jaguars have a pretty good chance opposite. FOLGER's came into the game overnight to see if Gartner meant you can step up but if it falls this is only one game thing I think is scenic foles. Also obviously he lit up to Patriots before I think can do it again. I think they're legitimate threat or announced. The Patriots is the Jacksonville Jaguars and the chiefs are the Texans. His defense has fallen apart But their offense is really good now they still. Jj Watt but. I don't think there's anyone who can particularly cover in Tonio Brown around Jewish settlements and Josh Gordon. I don't think there's anything that can handle them by those are two. AFC South Jags in the Texans and And then you also have. The chargers chargers are a legitimate threat to the patriots waived or without a B. chargers probably the best team in the AFC talent wise on. They just have to put it together. I think they could easily win the AFC this year. We'll just have to see if they can beat the chiefs. I think they can easily beat the chiefs because of the defense and how Ostrov charges defenses. But she's offense as too much to handle So yeah but I think in the end of the day I think you see. The Patriots headed to another Super Bowl world championship. Aby If he if maybe who knows maybe he's going to be a bad you know maybe he's going to be a good fit but we'll we'll see we'll see how it all plays out will see how it goes but obviously it's only one of the season he's not even GonNa play tonight against the steelers which is former team. We'll see how things go we'll see we'll see we'll see we'll see that's all we can say at this point in time we'll see we'll see we'll see so Yeah so yeah There is a be featured episode. Thank you guys for listening to this episode of the buzzers force fat cast. Make sure to keep up with everything that's going on with us. Obviously right now. We're pretty busy as a school. Era just started obviously zero eighth grade so we can't post you know consistently but we try our best to do so we can't guarantee anything for at least the next couple of months but if we do do something can guarantee that it will be a good product on so thank you guys for listening to this podcast We appreciate your support. Allots a really helps us out So thank you guys and hopefully soon by base.

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Season Preview Spectacular: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Drew Brees, Freddie Kitchens, and Peter's predictions

The MMQB Podcast with Peter King

1:05:07 hr | 11 months ago

Season Preview Spectacular: JuJu Smith-Schuster, Drew Brees, Freddie Kitchens, and Peter's predictions

"<music> welcome to the peter king podcast and this is a special two thousand nineteen n._f._l. Season preview spectacular podcast just assertive invented that name but i think you're gonna find out that this is pretty spectacular this week because i've got three guests and i've got all of my season unpicks and a cool announcement for you but i my guest this week n- orleans saints quarterback drew brees holder or of all records all major records mostly by the <hes> by n._f._l. Quarterbacks i had a good conversation sation with him. At training camp in metairie louisiana in august also free kitchens the head coach of the cleveland browns and i talked to kitchens at training camp also in berea ohio and i think he is much more of an interesting and an offensive grew type guy then everybody would give him credit for we're going to talk about that and and then finally i'm going to have juju smith schuster who for my money is one of the most interesting characters in football today and one of the most interesting people in sports in an era when it is so important to have your social profile your your social media profile expanding out in the world will talk about that and we'll talk about the steelers without antonio brown so so those are my three of my favorite conversations from my training camp trip and you're going to hear them all today's you get fired up for the start of the n._f._l.'s dell's one hundredth season now a couple of things before we get going. I made my picks for the two thousand nineteen gene season and i basically picked the two losers of the a._f._c. and n._f._c. Championship games last year to meet for for super bowl fifty four in miami on february second. I've got kansas city beating new orleans in in the super bowl. Come february not a lot of really deep and dark reasons why because so much can happen during the course of the season season and injuries obviously will tell a big tail. I just don't see the rest of the n._f._l. Very quickly catching up up with patrick poems. I think he's going to have a superior year. He has so much speed now that they've added mccoll hardman to <hes> a they've got three receivers probably who will be in the game simultaneously pretty often this year <hes> <hes> in sammy watkins mccoll hartman and tyreek hill three receivers who run under four point three five forties ladies so i really like them. I think their defense is going to be good enough. I think steve spagnolo being the new defensive coordinator. I i think they're gonna miss justin houston. Don't get me wrong but i do think that adding frank clark is going to take some of the sting away from the houston thin and deformed losses <hes> i i like kansas city in the a._f._c. and i like new orleans and i wrote in my column. I'm that obviously they they were job in the in the in the n._f._c. championship game by the non pass interference durance call but i just think now the new orleans defense is more than capable of holding its own in holding teams to twenty a two twenty four points a game consistently in the n._f._l. This year and what that means to me i believe is that this is not going to just us be a team where drew brees is going to have to score outscore people with thirty five thirty eight points every game. I think the defense is going to be. He needs an equal partner with the saints this year. My division picks obviously. I'm going to pick kansas city in the west. I'm picking taking indianapolis. I think jacoby perset will be a more than adequate for the colts in succeeding andrew luck as quarterback quarterback. I like pittsburgh a._f._c. north. I like new england obviously in the a._f._c. east. I like the chargers in houston stint as the fifth and sixth playoff seeds in the n._f._c. I like new orleans to win the n._f._c. south like philadelphia to win. The east green bay the north in an upset over chicago and i like the rams to win the west. <hes> <hes> probably my playoff upset pick. I've got chicago. The fifth seed and my playoff upset pick is going to be san francisco getting the sixth succeed over dallas in seattle and it isn't that. I don't like dallas in seattle. It's just that i really think this year that jimmy garoppolo below is finally going to show he's a top ten n._f._l. Quarterback and <hes> the forty niners are going to break through in year three of kyle ohio shanahan so those are my playoff picks just a couple other thoughts in the news at a couple of other thoughts. It's about what has happened in a very very busy weekend that transpired on the last weekend before the start of the season you know an awful lot has been said about the acquisition of laremy tunsil the left tackle by the houston texans and by the texans jettisoning davey and cloudy to the seattle seahawks for a couple of players in in the third round draft choice. Obviously i don't think that they got significant compensation for davey and cloudy but where this was lost ost was before july fifteenth when if you see that you're not going to be able to sign cloudy that is the time where the texans should have made significant efforts to trade him and to try to get somewhere close to fair market value for a bright right young pass rusher. Now i am not in the among those who think that davey and clowney is a top five. You know no weapon in the n._f._l. On defense he's been a good but not great pass rusher. He has not had a ten sack season yet in his career and i'm not saying that he won't turn out to be a great player but i think he is been good to very good player and not a great great one and i think that hurt houston trying to get fair market value for him at any point before or july fifteenth about the trade that sent laremy tunsil from miami to houston the thing that bothers me about this is not the compensation asian. Everybody is going crazy over the fact that the the texans traded two first round picks and a second to get tonsil and to get tunsil and kenny stills the wide receiver just remember two things about about this number one where the texans will be picking is likely going to be in the middle of the round or lower so let's just say that they're going pick twentieth in the first round each of the next two years i will tell you that if i'm general manager of a team and i could trade two first round picks in the twenty s for a twenty five year old left tackle. Who's gonna play for your team theoretically only for the next ten years. I would do it in a second kenny stills. Essentially plus is a plus in this because he is a guy who in six n._f._l. Seasons is only missed two games due to injury. I think that is being lost in in this forgotten in this. I think he's a reliable good not great n._f._l. Receiver but a good second or third receiver on most teams in the n._f._l. So i think it is ben. I would disagree with those who say that this an awful trade great where i don't like the trade is the fact that houston could have said the agent for laremy tunsil. Hey you have to give us. You have to let us negotiate a new contract and we need to sign this guy for five years or else. We're not. I'm gonna make this deal. What i'm hearing is that the houston texans did not do this and it can be a cliche that they did never general manager so they didn't get this done but in my opinion without having a general manager to alert them for such things. This was a major faux paw pau by houston but this is a team that is going to be better opening night in new orleans on monday because they've got laremy tunsil at left tackle. It's significant upgrade for the texans whose biggest weakness had been the offensive line so those are a few thoughts there <hes> i would just make two other very quick announcements for you before we get into our conversations leading off the n._f._l. Phil season. I would strongly recommend that you listen to chris. Simms unbuttoned podcast this week. He's going to pick all of his playoff. Teams on this podcast and i've got a little bit of a surprise for you. I'm going to tell you more about this at the end of this podcast but every monday at five fifteen a m eastern i'm going to drop a mini podcast a mini football morning in america podcasts sort of a cliff's notes version of my football morning in america podcast and it'll be dropped at n._b._c. Sports dot com all tweeted out from my account at peter underscore king and it'll be tweeted out from the n._b._c. Sports sports twitter handles so i'll tell you a little bit more about that as we get to the end of the podcast but i did want to just tell you that i'm really excited about sort of expanding what i do in <hes> you know on monday mornings and hopefully you'll be able to listen to that in addition into <hes> reading football morning in america every monday so let's start this week's pod with a conversation. I hadn't met her louisiana with drew brees. The quarterback of the new orleans saints really happy to be joined by drew brees who is entering the fifth decade of his life looking like he may one day enter the six decade of his life playing football but drew. We're we're sitting here at your training facility on a day at at training camp and i have to tell you no different than you look the first day i ever saw oh you in san diego throwing a football. I appreciate that i think i have a little bit less hair than back then but i i feel i feel relatively the same. Maybe a bit more experienced. Maybe a little more wisdom but about the same yeah so do you you sir watch brady. I asked matt ryan the other day in atlanta how how much more we play d._u. Dealer get yourself like brady and breeze and he said i will play until they take me off the field and he goes what is so good for us. Now is the way the game is being officiated. Did they understand. We really want the quarterbacks to play sixteen weeks. When you think of the longevity of your position d. i think that that has been a big factor over recent history. I'm sure it has. I'm sure it has we we still we still get hit but but we don't get hit quite like guys did back back before the favorable rule changes. You know <hes> i think i think the league has done a very good job over the last few years of making the necessary changes to make this game safer just really to to protect the guys that are not in positions to protect themselves right which quarterbacks being back there in the pocket we're in that position receivers devers running across the middle or in that position so in light of the head and neck injuries and things that we've seen from former players. I think that we recognize is that part of the game that we we need to make sure that we change for the better for the safer to allow for i think the longevity and also for the comfort level for a lot of young kids coming up to to feel comfortable being able to transition to the game at some point to do you think this off season you added anything to your regimen for either physical fitness slash longevity anything for sort of a positive physical addition to you okay you're. You'll like this one yeah yeah. I spent this entire offseason playing with my kids in the backyard okay so you asked asked me so what does that have to do with the question that you asked me sitting there throwing wiffle balls and my kids throwing tennis balls to my kids running around playing soccer with them. Just you know throwing them in the pool every which way right <hes>. How old are your kids now. They're ten eight six sir. My boys and my little girl is four k. That's pretty good symmetry. It is we end up my wife nurse for a year and then she got pregnant nursing so that's pretty much the way it went for all of them but just just maintaining those types of skill sets. When i was a kid i played every sport okay every sport football basketball baseball soccer track tennis you name it. I feel like all playing all those sports. As a kid has helped a tribute i attribute that to my ability to play quarterback this long their skill sets that i developed playing all those sports that that i utilize on this football field playing the quarterback position and i could spend hours sitting here going through every one of them but still doing those things is now with my kids. It's kind of like i'm going back to being a kid again myself and i'm just i'm just pulling. All those skill sets right from all those different. Did you do this consciously well. I did it because just being a father to my kids right right. Just want to be out there doing it with him but i recognize that by doing that. I truly feel like i'm helping my career. I feel like that is part of the longevity. Piece is just continuing to draw from the skill. You'll sets from all the other sports that i've played my whole life and how it applies to make me a better quarterback. That's really really interesting. Do you find yourself at the end of the day because i know there have been studies for parents who stay at home with your kids. At the end of the day people have figured out how much they've run how much which they've moved getting up going down and how strenuous it is to spend a day chasing your kids around. Do you believe that that helped you in all physical fitness kind of way and all the different movements i. I'm not one that sits there and count my steps absurd right. My calories are doing anything like i'm conscious with what i eat. I'm conscious with how i sleep how i recover after a tough training regimen but i'm i'm really in tune with my body and so i know when it's time to push and i know when it's time to shut it down right and recover and just call that you know nineteen years of professional sports where i just i just know my body that will do you think that the care and feeding of your body and of quite a few older quarterbacks is changing to the point point where it's quite possible that you could play to your forty five years old at high level absolutely i do i do <hes> i think obviously what brady has been able to accomplish and what he just turned forty two forty two forty two right. I mean look at his resume. Resume alien. You don't need to look any further and certainly the way that he's continuing to play too high level. I i feel like there's i i don't. I don't know exactly the things at times doing but i do know that he approaches is very much the same way that i do. I believe and call it. Call it the information that we have now that. Maybe we didn't have ten years ago or twenty years ago. Obviously that plays a big role into it. Listen sleep nutrition and recovery place hachi huge role. What's your sleep. This is the thing that is changing so much over the last three or four years. Yeah tell me about your sleep habits. Well i i. There's some people that need more sleep than others right. I mean so you gotta know your body but i i've kind kinda got that down. Seven seven hours of sleep at night and i'm good i. I really don't need more than that. You know with justin verlander says he's preaching the gospel of ten hour sleep nights the the houston astros so so maybe maybe that works for him and some guys i think do need that right but for me i feel like this the it's almost like the the harder i train and the better that i do work on my recovery as a result of that training and then the better that i eat the less sleep i need so i feel like those things work hand in hand. I think there's a balance there but i'm programmed. I'm like a clock like i. I start getting tired at the same time every night and then my body gets me up at the same time every morning and it's just a routine. It's just the structure it's routine and that's that's the way i've programmed my body when you realize that you have thrown for more yards than any quarterback back in the history of the national football league and the league is one hundred years old when you hear that do you say oh. Oh my god i am not worthy or do you just say oh my god. This is incredible. What do you think yeah. I don't even know if i fully absorbed that yet. You know even though that happened almost a year ago i really don't i fully absorbed that yet. I i just i can still i can still remember walking into miami's joe robbie stadium at the time in my very first season my very first preseason game in two thousand one and looking at dan marino's statistics in the ring of honor and that was truly the the first n._f._l. Stating that i'd walked into in about to play and to see all of those statistics at the time he had all those records and just sit there and go oh my goodness. How do you play that long. How do you even sniff those numbers like that's crazy you know at the time i'm just hoping that someday i can be a starting quarterback in this league and he just you just put your head down and you play and you play because you love it and you have fun and enjoy the camaraderie and the teammates and you love to compete and then you know the years just kinda start to stack and you have it makes us in succession makes pro bowls you make the playoffs maybe go in the super bowl and then all of a sudden they're talking about. You're about to go out and break. One of those records and you're like how how did this happen. Did we get here. I don't know it's it's almost like you've enjoyed the process so much. If you ever really kind of sit back and think does it really do any good. I mean does that help. You accomplish the next thing especially because you're all about the next thing yeah i i really. I really especially in this stage of my crew. I really just try to stay in the moment. Yeah i mean go hi. There was a period of time up until about three years ago where i just i didn't even think about the end. I felt like it was going to last forever. You know you just kind of went from one season to the next <hes> and maybe they all just kinda ran together either a little bit but about three years ago i begin to realize okay. I'm closer to the end than i am the beginning and i just when i walk away from the game i don't want to have any regrets i wanna move onto the next chapter and just man approach that with the same type of passion and energy and enthusiasm cem as i have my football career but i don't wanna look back and say man. I wish i would have enjoyed it a little more. I wish i would <hes> so. I said you know what i am truly going to just live in the moment an enjoy each and every day and each and every road trip and each and every opportunity locker room. Maybe laugh a little bit more. Maybe enjoyed a little bit more just man. I i wanna enjoy every second and i feel like by taking that approach. I just heightened my level of appreciation that my sense sense of urgency my overall enjoyment and the success i mean look at the games taken that approach and so i like that approach it works as you continue to take until i hang it up who who who can argue with you. I got to other things things. Will there ever be a senator drew brees. I don't know i don't know i'm i'm not gonna close the door on anything and we'll see because you care about a lot of things i very active in. The in the been very active at times is in the n._f._l. You speak out when you see injustice so i i just wonder about that. I was strongly. Consider something like that. You said politics takes i would i would i would strongly consider politics at some point. I feel like there's there's benchmarks. There's things in my life that i want to accomplish and so many of them our our personal development type things their challenges that i see that i say to myself i i. I want to accomplish that. I wanna work towards that because i feel like that that's part of my own personal development. That's gonna make me a better person in some way. Maybe it's something that i really don't know a whole lot about but i feel like i need to know more about that so i need to pursue that. I need to accomplish that. I got a couple of these things in my mind i wanna continue to to work towards in my next chapter and then we'll see where that takes me but i'm i'm but you think it's still multiple years down the road you you. Would you like to play for two three four however many more you that you can. I'm anticipating that is taking a year at a time. When i was in jets cam. I talked to sam. I'm donald and we finished and he said peter. I really enjoy when you do on your podcast. The quarterback conversations you have you know i went back and i listen to all of your quarterback conversations and so i just started to think when i talked to quarterbacks on this trip i'm going to say sam darnold twenty two years old so it's sort sort of like what advice would you give to your younger self. What advice would you give to sam darnold when he listens to this podcast to so so much of our league is about the results right <hes> we are in a results driven business but truly it is about the process. If if you focus on the process the result takes care of itself and so just simply that developed what your processes focus on that process in too many times we get frustrated or we get down on ourselves or we begin to press because the result didn't match up with the process but if you just focus on the process eventually you get the point where good process will consistently will good result will end with this people say to me sometimes. Hey what does that guy drew brees breeze like and tell them about a story that i once went reported a story of you for h._b._o. Oh sports for inside the n._f._l. This eight or ten years ago you were here. You're doing great everybody you were playing well and i was gonna take a walk with you in audubon park with your dog and we were walking and all of a sudden your dog poops right there on the ground and we went to pick it up my producer bentley wine and we were going to pick it up. You said no no. That's not gonna happen. I'll take care of this. I take care of my own dog so i said this is a guy who insists on cleaning up after his dog. I kind of think it's an apocryphal apocryphal story. You'll take care of yourself in a totally weird way the strangest question you've had as a quarterback in the n._f._l. What does that story say about you well. It's i it. It makes me feel like that. Was that's the way i'm raised and that's the way i'm that's what i'm trying to impart on my kids as well. Is that you you know you if you break it. You fix visit right. If you mess it up you clean it up right you. You be solutions per person per person. Don't be a problems person right always if if i if it's my mess i'm going to clean up and even if it's not my message but it's something that needs to be done then i'll be the one to do it right and so i don't know maybe that's just a a bit of an assertive mentality or a just do the right thing. That's just that's you remember telling us to get out of the way yeah yeah. That was hilarious. Yeah my that producer bentley weiner's still at h._b._o. When i talked to her occasionally said remember that time when breeze had to clean up after after his dog wouldn't let us do it anyway. We'll try to get my kids to clean up the dog poop and they won't do it so that's a constant battle as a whole. Nother story drew brees. Thanks a lot have a great year. Hope you have five more that you my thanks drew brees and now let's move to berea ohio for the rookie head coach the surprising rookie head coach of the cleveland and browns freddie kitchens. I have to ask you where here at your training facility in berea ohio is it at all still weird to be introduced as an n._f._l. Head coach after all your years where you wanted to be that so much and now it finally happened. I wouldn't say it's weird. It's <hes> definitely <hes> catch yourself. Sometimes realizing that you know hey i've gotta make decisions on the parking lot or the seating chart on the plane. So those moments you know <hes> but the cleveland browns have been nothing but great <hes> from the standpoint everybody here is wanting to support me the coaching style in anything they can do for the players <hes> to enable us the big <unk> successful. You're you're a guy who loves football history and i wonder. Do you realize what a great coach paul brown was and all of the stuff that he did for the future of the game in the history of the game in the one hundred season of professional football heavy studied him at all. Do you know anything about paul brown in his history. Will i know he <hes> how he ended up in a no he started ohio state and <hes> one or championship championship or the house state came here won championships and then <hes>. I don't know if i should say there's not but for whatever reason ended up in cincinnati i leaving it that <hes> i love the fedora a love this coat. Wouldn't you love to wear regular clothes on the sidelines like suit with a fedora and look tom landry <hes> i love the look but applied for gene stalling so he were coat and tie on the sidelines on so i'm kind of used to that but <hes> i'd have to worry too much about fitting into excel so freddie a couple of things about your history that really interest tryst me. You're a grad assistant in the year. Two thousand on nick saban's coaching staff. What do you remember about that season what d- remember and and what lessons do you take from nick sabin well. There's a lot i could take from nick saban <hes> that i did take from saving but <hes> i think the organizational associational skills that he has is like unprecedented <hes> he knows what's going on in every aspect of his program <hes> there's never going to be a surprise to him and if there is it's gonna get rectified <hes> so you know having a grasp now that's different than having control are of course. He has control but that's different than <hes>. I don't mean by not letting people do their job bob. He does that <hes> he just wants to know. What's going on and so that kind of woke me up of house. Significant the role is in general <hes> how you're kind of responsible for everything and you know i think he's one of the best kind of managing <hes> different personalities personalities and in different <hes> situations. <hes> you know the now that again. That was the first experience i had with it so <hes> it was definitely great one but the succession of kosher coaches that i had i think was critical at the time period that i had them <hes>. I don't don't think i would have gotten as much safe from sylvester croom. If i'd had <hes> coach croon i you know but i gathered things from him. Mississippi state state that i knew what to look for a new. What good leadership was i knew what good people skills were <hes> and then going from there articles for sales just so for pieces of action in two thousand six you coach for bill parcells and you coach tight ends. You had a young tight end named jason witten so you not only got the experience with parcells but you also saw what it was like to work and be graded as as a tight end ah no doubt and i tell people all the time that <hes> you know learning from coach parcells was great as far as learning how to handle different people you've got people from all over the country <hes> with different backgrounds and you have to be able to talk to each one of them to get to know them to earn their our trust to ask them to do difficult things in difficult situations all right or they're not gonna do it successfully unless you earn their trust but from jason witten i i tell people all the time. I learned more from him than i could ever think about teaching someone. He taught me what an n._f._l. Player looks like he taught may <unk> n._f._l. Player prepares <hes> and i'm forever in that form we became friends of course and all that kind of stuff but <hes> the the value system that he taught me that a player has <hes> was unheard of i i. I covered the new york giants for newspaper newspaper for four years in the eighties so i watch parcels. The interesting thing about ourselves is that i had a great coaching staff. He had ron erhardt offense was really alien underrated defensive guy and he had bill belichick on defense so he used to think that one of his most valuable times of day was about maybe seven thirty thirty to eight fifteen in the morning when he could go in the locker room and find out exactly what was going on. He goes from film mcconnell to find out what's going on over there. Mark bavaro harry carson andy head phil simms any feels like by the time he goes back up to his office. He's got a good handle. Okay here my problems today. Here's my situations today and i always thought that that is really an underrated part of coaching. You don't want to be their friend which you wanna find out exactly what's going going on. A limited. I mean trust is a big deal in our business. This is a people business <hes>. They have to trust me for made. I asked him to do things they may not want to do. <hes> one piece of advice he gave me is bit assessable be around be around in a weight room when are working working out. Make sure they know how important they may not know how important it is for you for the for them to be working out unless they see you down there. Are they see me the special team meetings. They see me in the weight room with them. They see me around so be accessible for you can talk to anybody. You have to be accessible not me ever did he ever talk to you about the temperature that it ought to be in the trainers her <hes> i know it's supposed to be cold hanging around the temperature probably get that information with one phone call but <hes> i think we might need to turn the temperature down here with freddie kitchens head coach of the cleveland browns so i wanna ask you a couple of things about last year k is we could've sat here a a year ago. At this time you would have been the most anonymous guy in this building. The running backs coach hired by todd haley the offensive coordinator in hugh jackson. You come in here and you're just a run of the mill average position coach with everybody else. No one has really has any idea that much about about who you are or anything and then when the upheaval happens in you get the job in my opinion. I'll tell you what really lee surprise me. You talk almost like you're kind of a southern drawl good old boy <hes> i'm a football coach from alabama and i'm gonna coach like football coaches from alabama three yards and a cloud of dust and maybe i'll. I'll run heavy more than anybody else in football but i remember when you got the job is coordinator. I look up one day and you run this the weirdest formation. I saw all season in in the n._f._l. You ran a quarterback in shotgun and three running backs in bunch in the backfield. I think it was against atlanta atlanta but i forget who was it who is it. Did it a couple of times. We did against cincinnati atlanta but you the time talking about. I think you against just atlanta. Hey i think he ran at three plays in a row. If i'm not mistaken but it ended up on <hes> interception i think nine six six hundred seventeen yards right right and so i said to myself well. Maybe we got the wrong freddie kitchens here or maybe you know we just were you. I don't wanna make <hes> you don't want to assume because it makes an asset of you and me. Just tell me a little bit. I want to know about that and then about about how your offensive offensive mind works a little bit well. I think the first thing says <unk> just because you've never seen it doesn't mean it doesn't work doc. You just have to have well. I don't know what i can say what. I can't say here but yours have to have the guts to call it. You have to have a good so you have a you have to have the <hes> the lack of fear to call it and do it and you have to be able to teach it. You have to have answers for those guys that are actually going out and doing it. <hes> <hes> so fear has never been like in my vocabulary. I don't think so <hes> you know. We thought it was a good idea did you also as i recall i forget what game was you ran thirteen personnel like five fifteen times or something or a bunch of snaps and that's three tight end system which hardly anybody i mean maybe on the goal line you might see it with a couple of big body tight ends but so you i don't wanna put words around the you're probably not not really afraid of doing anything in terms of scheme wise i like to i like to gain yards because yards main points <hes>. If you convert your good situational channel football so <hes> whatever will get us down the field just a little bit further i'll do <hes>. It doesn't matter to me if somebody's seen it or somebody thinks i'm crazy. I don't care. I know i'm crazy so over the years here. Influences were all over the board on offense. Is that fair to say say. It's definitely fair to say you know. I was with the jimbo fisher at l._s._u. I was with <hes> daryl dickey. Which if you want to figure out how to run the ball talked to darrell dickey at north texas and and then i went with sylvester croom at mississippi state now we weren't offensive juggernaut at mississippi state <hes> then what the dallas and was around so a great great coaching staff in dallas and in the late tony verano todd haley mike zimmer ethnic land todd bowles all these guys are on the staff there <hes> and then went with ken whisenhunt in arizona and then bruce arians and now i'm here so i had some good mentors along the way but again the succession accession that i had those mentors was key i think i thought it was really interesting last year. After you beat denver we had a conversation on the saturday night game <hes> and beat him and i said why. Do you think you have been <hes> you in baker have been good together and he was struggling in the first half of the season. Obviously so what have you found about him. In the first words out of your mouth is was baker is starved for knowledge so tell tell me about working with him in how does that. How does that show itself in the course of a day in the course of a week well when someone asked questions that that means means they're <hes> they're not comfortable with their knowledge or they're wanting more knowledge <hes> and he is he's excellent that on a day in and day out basis. He's always looking to get better <hes> and you feel very happy and very <hes> rewarded to coach people like that. I want to ask you just a little bit about you. Approaching this season with this tremendous mendes <hes> explosion of attention onto the cleveland browns. You know they haven't been good for so long and now all of all of a sudden he trade for odell beckham junior. You got baker. Mayfield you know in his second year and i i just i'm curious. What about the attention part of the job and the the the lights on you every day as i said you know a year ago. You were just guy going to work every day. So how has his that aspect of the job ben for you well when you pull through the gate out front here it has a statement that says out of yourself into the team all right so if everybody would do that in recognize the fact that all that high and all those expectations will not determine our success or our failure it's going to be determined by the guys in that locker room and the coaching staff putting those guys in good situations and then them going out and executing shooting but the accountability that they have between each other will determine <hes> the expectations not outside world yeah i. I also wanted to ask you about the statement you made during training camp basically that we will not have any leaks in this building. Now we are shutting it up. If i find out you're leaking you're gone and a what prompted that what caused that and why do you feel so strongly about that. Well i wouldn't care to elaborate on what caused that <hes> but i know this that everything we do here is going to be built on trust loyalty and respect and if you're doing that. I don't know if i have any of those three <hes> could have been in the past could be prevented for the future. <hes> could be president. Even i guess but it doesn't matter win. If that happens <hes> i don't think you can you can't get to where you wanna. Go and how things like that happen. You can't tell me <hes>. Give me an example of the people in your building. That are doing things like that and you're successful. You can't do so because i don't trust. They don't respect and they don't have any loyalty to anybody. Nobody if they're doing that will end with this. Give me one example that you have seen and that may be america hasn't seen of odell beckham junior why you're glad he's on the team. You didn't just sit. I missed it. What now how many came in and did some kind of run out the door. There was doing some on a split thing or something. I think it's one of their new age dances or something but yeah you mean you know not in the building. <hes> i would say this <hes> peter i don't i try not to judge people off what other people say i judged on what i see <hes> and he's a prime example of that. He hasn't done anything except work his ass off here and <hes> in the book on the field in the weight room in the training room. You know so that's what i'm going off of. I don't care what anybody else says about him. He's a who's a cleveland brown now. So that's is what we're going to judge him off of is what he's done here. <hes> nothing else nothing else matters. You know we're going to air. This interview. View the wednesday before the regular season in sort of a special podcast. I'm doing so people n._b._c. asked me. Let's talk about the people on your training camp triple. You're going to talk to and who you wanna get on your big podcast before the season and i said i wanna christian mccaffrey because i think he's a totally fascinating donating guy and he might be the future of offensive football. I said i wanna get drew brees because he's always really interesting and i think the saints might win. The super bowl and i wanna get freddie kitchens because there isn't a more interesting story in two thousand nineteen than freddie kitchens and the cleveland browns so i guess i'll just say good luck to you and hope it all works out well. I appreciate it appreciate. I hope this broad as much luck. Is that denver <hes> talk. We had we did freddie. Thanks select. I appreciate it better. Okay some enlightening stuff there from the the new coach of the cleveland browns freddie kitchens and our thanks thanks to him and now let's go to latrobe pennsylvania where i spent about a half hour one day in training camp with juju smith schuster who's really one of the compelling stories in the n._f._l. This year it's going to be really really fun to watch him grow as a player and off the field in his all of his various social media platforms here is juju smith schuster and we're sitting here juju smith schuster now. I'd steelers training camp. You're gonna hear some noise and that's because about every every fifteen seconds. A golf cart is going to drive by with players on it. So that's what's called ambient sound we apologize but it certainly gives you a feel of what it sounds like in latrobe pennsylvania during camp coming off a one hundred and eleven catch season the steelers most valuable player. I believe the age of twenty two. You did all this. Does it ever get to you and do you ever does it ever occur to you holy cow. I'm just a kid. I just caught two hundred and eleven balls in the n._f._l. <hes> i mean you know growing up i was planning n._f._l. And i had the opportunity to do that. I didn't look at my also today. I didn't see this coming. You know i never expect me to be how this this much success at a young age but in over the guys on my i team and you know playing with ben. You know dreams come true. He you know you make those eleven hundred eleven catches and a lot more. I'll tell you the most impressed i i was with you. Last year. It was when you dropped the ball in new orleans and after the game either the day after that night you wrote wrote this tweet because that ball that you dropped was in a crucial point of the game. The saints won the game if you'd caught the ball pretty good chance the steelers won that the game here's what you tweeted after the game when i'm at my lowest point i'm not going to hide. I'm sorry that loss was on me. I let let everyone down. It won't happen again. Tell me about that moment in your life and why he responded the way you did. I mean obviously you do you think about so many players out there. I mean the great players you know. It's adversity <unk> through some stuff or whether we could you know won the game or lose lose the game for the team at at that moment. You know i didn't want to hide her. You know didn't want to not posters just hide from the media or the people you know i own to to my action and that's something i need to work on. Balls curious day added that play really good ball security so <hes> i wanted to let everyone know that like i wasn't wasn't wasn't happy with the situation but you know when things happen like that you know you step up to the problem having ownership to it and i just wanna let the people know that what. Where do you think you learn that. I mean at a moment like that. I'm not saying every player but a lot of players would not have done what you did. I mean would have basically no commented got outta the locker room in hid for a couple of days. So where do you think sermon you i mean i think it was just for myself. Just like something everyone should do. You know i mean <hes> like i said we're not. All people are like that. Some people go in labrum they hide don't don't come out for a couple of days or they don't post were couple of days and <hes> does pass by myself. You know on the people that's that's definitely wanna see how you're gonna react the act you know like. When are you gonna react i hot. What kind of guy is he. You know and i wonder if the people know that i'm not the kinda guy to go hide and run away on the guy's going to step up into ownership into the situation in high cost how much looking back at last year and odd way the season ended and then how the team moved on from antonio antonio brown. How strange was that. You're watching it in real time and then it's over antonio brown's on the raiders yeah. I mean it's situation like that. <hes> i mean obviously you you talked about. You know great player you know a._b. The way he is i mean i've learned a lot you. I just paying with him and had the opportunity to do that. <hes> obviously you know he had other interests and <hes> you know to to his favor so for myself if i may be the youngest team i you know twenty two in our in our receiver room but i'll probably have the most experienced in that room so that's for myself to be a leader to more vocal so it's pretty cool to have the opportunity to bring that self now myself <hes> for my guys to d think you will be able to be friends with antonio antonio brown in your life. Oh yeah most definitely i mean honestly. I don't have no grudge. No hey nobody i mean he's doing what's best for him. I'm doing what's best for myself. Hand forever ever in the same room are on the same field. I mean he's he's grown. I'm grown man respect the game man. You know just move from the past. I want to talk talk a little bit about how will your you were suited for kind of being kind of modern sports star in part because you're so open you know your life seems to be kind of an open book. You have a dog named bucci a poodle right around a french bulldog grunge virtual so buji has his own instagram account as do you and on father's day buji posted the following a <hes> on instagram happy father's day to the most <unk> dad on earth puji sounds like he's a cool dog knives very very cool show. I love them alive. He's he's my son but you know i treat him. Spoil him so much but at the same time he he's very proud things i do and he came out to training training camp yeah he was here. A couple of days and many people love their man. He's i mean he's. He doesn't love dogs. You know any small tool so he doesn't carson awesome wants drama and he listened so he's awesome. <hes> you also recently you saw a kid in greater pittsburgh who didn't have date for prom. Yes i want you to explain how you found that out and then what you did about it also run time a lot a lot of <hes> you know students <unk> prom dates. I get a lot of the ems from females and <hes> you you know it's always the same response i hate you. You probably don't have a date this kid. He told me in his the said i act to my best friend i wanted to take. This girl died like i was talking to. His best friend goes behind his back in take cigarette. He likes and he was and ask so it. Kinda turned back on him so kind of backfire so the way i thought it it was like y'all got to respond in a great way so i made the kiss off is going with him to be his prom date. Got him a party bus with all his friends. Friends got a suit and you went you went in twin suits. Yeah yeah yeah cool man awesome so we pretty much like restore tonight so the kid who had his heart broken might have the night of his life. Yeah i mean he. It had a great time just because i was there in a circle dancing so i made it was pretty cool. Yeah why do you do that. I'm hearing from our salvage as i i have much to do also have a youtube channel so it was kind of like a muscle. Just knock it out twice. You know with the doing this for a kid. Having i'm fine also making a youtube video and the semi personalities i am. What do you think it would have been like if you were lynn swann john stallworth and there was no youtube. There's no instagram. There's no twitter. There's no social media media. There's none of these connections with fans and if you have a dog you have a dog but the dog is not a star note. I think obviously the bike night without another that it's has much. How much can you do <unk> within the city because all you have is you know newspapers news <unk> yeah so you you feel like you're more suited for this era of football for sure <hes> more so like the whole social media side in the whole like that that that broadcasts casten also just learning how to response to you know adversity situations in problems in right way. Yeah it has anybody with the steelers has ever told you to tone down your act on on any of these platforms. No cause everything i put out. I make sure it's good you know with my mom tom and everybody and if his girl you know i would never do anything i would hurt. My brand are distorted brand because you know in this league n._f._l. Shoe so not only only represent yourself where you've representing coach teammates <hes> the steelers organization and everyone else around you when you first heard you were coming to the steelers. They're one of the most traditional by the book organizations in pro sports not just in the n._f._l. When you came here did did you know a lot about the tradition and did you know how straight laced they were and all that oh for sure you know when i i mean as long beach poly sandwiches tradition everything and i went the u._s._c. The trojans were tradition so coming here. It was pretty much tradition. I think the only the end i was out i was really missing from the same was like the like having fun like everyone being happy like playing like playing the game because it's fun to do you know like having like those enjoyment or those excitement moments of you know those celebrations nations that you know we just started n._f._l. Bringing out to <hes> when i like this as very strict on nobody books but it isn't only you're not just doing it for our programming or anything that you're doing it because you like doing it. I mean one hour before we sat down to speak you posted a video of you dancing to who at drake song room and and so i mean you almost like live that yes kinda like <hes> yeah i i live by. I don't really do it just 'cause i. I do it. I do it because it's for myself. You know my own pleasure to find <hes> you know. I would make funny videos. I come out here and cash touchdowns and go back in and making plenty of videos. Can i get your cash also yesterday between yes. I'm studying plays and stuff. You can deathly on the phone off pill at the same time on sundays before the game. I'm playing fortnight an iguana <unk> scoring touchdowns and win the game and it companies for nights sunday morning your hotel as my way meditation. Just get my mind off. Oh just you know getting away from football. Come back to it and it's like fresh to me yeah. I wonder i want you to think back into your past me. No maybe with somebody very close to you. D do you know why you became this person. Who is in a robot and who has fun and also is empathetic toward other people who feels tells you saw that kid and you knew that that kid was really having a bad day and even though it was going to be something cool for you to do so you could put it out. You want to help that kid. What is it about your life in your past that made you the way you are. The growing up like <hes> <hes> my stepdad ashi caught died. He saw how highlight how hard he worked to put like to take care of us in our family and that means the sea like he would. We will drop them off at the bus. He'll bus he'll take like two buses and then we'll have on he'll have on the metro and he'll walk like a good like half a mile so that he will do that for about a year or two years and i saw how much it's an item so for a living <hes> so obviously has a car now but he works at a fire department. He does like paperwork and stuff like that for hazard and stuff like that so it's that's what i saw that i was like man like i will never want to have him do that. So obviously i worked hard to get a car. Take care of him as much as possible and and that's what i did you know i've seen how much she took care of me. <hes> i'm a big fan of him and see how much power he had to take care of found so donald ads i get to the part where i i care so much about other. People like i would do any if i'm able to do it. I'm gonna do it. You know if i'm able to pay for <hes> something that you need a computer. I'm gonna do it because i know i got it. If i wasn't able to all the i i wouldn't do it to a certain extent but in my heart i just feel like the more you can give without nothing in return. That's what it's all about. You know like meeting n._f._l. Twenty two years old i have so much power and influence to so many younger kids because how young i am and i can relate to culture too like dirk heads even to adults to like screaming on hand to i can relate to them to who <hes> it just makes the game a lot easier and <unk> fun and just doing life so for myself. It's like i get the enjoyment out of the other people happy instead of getting anything in return. Is that why you pick that fan who got the tattoo had the tattoo. The steelers field yeah on his head. Yeah pick that fan and it'd be i. I don't know the full story. You've got to tell the story. He will always use a guy. You know regular pattern comes out to latrobe and he has he on the side of his head. He has on the right side. He asked distiller logo so harassed cool. You know he's like he's like time. I had and i was go. Find your head. He was like get a tattoo and i was i young if you decide to. I will give you season tickets this year for every every game he got it tattooed while as cool so he came back and showed you the tattoo he posted on social media and everyone obviously when it goes on pittsburgh news show in just went everywhere and so now you're gonna get him season tickets. You're okay with it yeah. I'm fine with that. Yeah and it's funny now some other guy <unk> having tied to his wrist if you are just doing pronoun as a as crazy man fancy are amazing too yeah yeah the steeler fans. My wife is from pittsburgh and i oh sweet you know so when she was growing up and i started to date or in college. I used to go to her house. Oh center father would have a terrible towel and in those days no cable tv 'cause i'm ancient and so he had an antenna on his t._v. and so he would have the terrible towel draped over the antenna and if he forgot to do it or whatever the steelers would throw an interception or they would lose. If if there was bad car there would be bad karma karma if he forgot to put the terrible towel up there while that's the steeler fan crazy were you from. I'm from connecticut originally but i met my wife at ohio university so you pittsburgh. I i appreciate the steelers. I'm not a fan of anybody. 'cause i gotta cover everybody. You know very true yeah. Hey last question this year your team. This is really turned into sort of a weird division now because of the cleveland browns though you look at the cleveland browns they gotta odell l. and jarvis catching balls nick chub and they're going to have a lot. They're going to be a real force so wonder stat how do you how do you look at your division and particularly what the browns have done to. This division images may very very interesting. <hes> you talk about me talk about baltimore. You talked about the cleveland even like you got to young quarterbacks who can who can scramble out of the pocket and make plays on the run. You talked about the browns <unk> how often this <hes> even under defense vint cerf pretty solid even so that division is i. It's it used to be like ciller. Dominates does dominate <unk> up for grabs his everyone. Everyone's no one's good. You know yeah and you know you talk about. The cincinnati bengals like you can't see them. 'cause it's always a close game in our division <hes> so the bengals to the people live in cincinnati yeah because i once did when they play the steelers. It's the superbowl oh for sure. They hate dealers. Wanna see the physical game. I've ever played in his at where is home or away. It's it's a fight arguments very tough but playing against <unk> they go all out and it's like it's like you said it's the super bowl. Juju smith schuster have a great year really appreciate you sharing your philosophy about life. Thank you thank you i appreciate it my thanks to drew brees breeze freddie kitchens juju smith schuster and that is one heck of a season preview spectacular right here on the peter king podcast cast so i did want to tell you just a couple more things about the podcast that i have coming every monday during the football season season. Just what america needs another football podcast. This is going to be a different kind of podcast. It's basically going going to be a short form version of my football morning in america column every monday morning at about four fifteen eastern time starting this coming monday september nine i will be recording a twelve thirteen fifteen minute podcast at most and when you get up in the morning you can download it. It'll have highlights from my football morning in america column and and it's basically as i say a cliff notes version of that column that you can digest either in the shower or on the treadmill on on your morning run. Maybe on your commute to work. Put it on your headphones when you're on the subway. If you live like me in new york and then of course you'll spend your first. I thirty minutes at work with your boss convinced that you're devoting all of your time to getting a head start on that workday when in reality you're really wasting time reading my column and i appreciate that but let let that be just our secret secret between me and you see your boss never finds out but anyway i look forward to delivering that to you every monday by five fifteen fifteen eastern time get it where you get your podcasts and i will give you more information on that starting in my column on on monday. Thanks again for listening to buy season preview. A peter king podcast and i look forward to talking to you every wednesday winston during the season.

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Hour 2 - Guest Host Chris Mannix and Adrian Wojnarowski (01-24-20)

The Dan Patrick Show

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Hour 2 - Guest Host Chris Mannix and Adrian Wojnarowski (01-24-20)

"Thank you for listening to this. podcast one sports net production available on apple podcast and podcast one. It's the greatest time of the year. You're in sports. Nfl College football MLB NBA and NHL. What else can a sports fan as for? All the action you want is every day at fun place and one place only online dot. Ag Sign up today for a free account at online DOT AG. Use Promo Code podcast. One for your fifty percent or not welcome. Bonus don't sit on the sidelines anymore. Get in on all this incredible Actionaid Bet online dot. Ag That's Bet online dot ag your online sportsbook experts like women accuracy and charisma. Dan Patrick successfully avoided Chris Mannix. What are your expectations for state? This year depending on how klay comes back really could but the debts. Let's get on board with this really talk. They're holding down the Mercedes men cave. While Dan is preparing our super bowl shows in Miami. We have tickets. They're free. You go online to Dan in M. A. Capital M. I A. Dot Com for Dan. Patrick this is Chris Mannix on the Dan. Patrick Show our two of the program. Dan Patrick Show Chris Mannix sports illustrated s dot com filling in for DP. Dan is on the way to Miami. The boys will be there next week but we can show setup already promised mail it incompletely stick around for that all week long. I mean did kind of suggested that South beach would be more in his plans than we'll get around to show at some point. four-week of algebraic onset radio lock and load my man breer. Yeah one guaranteed thing is Todd will be out in the Miami Hot Sun at some point during the week without sunblock on and get a raging sunburn healing sky. He'll be like I should've put on sunscreen. He'll say and it. It's like groundhog's Day thing. Scalding sunscreen. Helped help does not look good. Without the sunblock prediction will be tied. Sitting poolside. Sitting back is closed facing the sun directly with jeans on an end to hat on sleeveless shirt and then the sunburn is going to be the outline of the hat with the circle right here because it was backwards that is. That's my prediction addiction for Tuesday Thursday. And how right away medium pepperoni sausage pizza with a big two liter. Mountain dew mega chip. Todd likes to go to suit. uh-huh great international towns like Miami and go to chain food restaurants in order Chinese food. You give me some pens express at a Jamba juice out okay. Well let's Timbuktu totally you like. Steve like Steve Carell in the office where I went to this great new Italian restaurant in New York so borrow to go like what are you. What the joke got pretty good? Ziti show will be down there all week looking forward to that down in Miami some NFL news not related to Miami. Antonio Brown arrested did recently for an incident at his house in South Florida. He was granted bail today after a lengthy Hearing in that area his bond was one hundred thousand dollars you'll be tried tried to get. GPS monitoring releases passport and guns go through drug and alcohol testing and a mental health evaluation. So this saga continues in use for Antonio Brown. I guess it could be a good thing for Brown to undergo mental health evaluation. You saw his agent drew Rosenhaus say he was stepping back from representing Antonio Brown Brown. Got Some help recently. No Brown's best chance of employment has been in boxing. Now there's been a lot of talk about a potential exhibition she match. Or maybe I guess technically professional fight between Antonio Brown and Logan Paul. Who's the Youtube Star? That recently fought on zone against another youtube star and that the fight was something that I know. Some of the works for zone is something they really wanted to make for the first quarter of this year. Maybe sometime in April may be right around the NFL draft craft as a potential so everyone or bad effects Antonio Brown's bill to make some money because he would have made millions to fight Logan. Paul like that's a big time event not a great boxing match but Antonio Brown was pencilled in to have that kind of fight you go back to August when he did all the stuff on hard Knox and was given the raiders hard time enforcing the hand get rid of. Dan even hinted that there's something wrong with the skaggs. We met the couple years ago and he was surprisingly low key. The an easy going and nice to everybody getting. He's performing his onset but Dan. Dan was mentioning in August. Saying there's something not right with this person. Because he's got fifteen million do just if he sits on the raiders and does nothing. He's got to back fifteen million dollar seasons and to to blow that up intentionally without a backup plan is it. I'm not making fun of it nuts. It's it's felt nuts at the time. Yeah look as you said. If he had just kept his mouth shut showed up to practices. He would have gotten his guarantees. This isn't like Levy Bell. who was angling for a long term deal trying to negotiate and gave up a year salary? And there's an agent was concocted and was about a long term plan about the wear and tear in love and lost a lot of money to a point. But this felt the opposite this felt like just sabotage absolutely self sabotage by Tony Brown and the money lost their next stuff. Came in New England. And you could tell how. It was working in New England when he was facing the media in the Patriots Locker Room. He was following the Patriots. Blueprint he was saying the things that you hear a lot a patriot players up and say but then all the other stuff came out with the text messages and stuff he was saying to women and then it just kind of went downhill from there Erin social media. It's been Antonio Brown's It's been his Achilles heel if social media wasn't route of AB was off social media media. He's still the same problems but he probably wouldn't be in the kind of predicament that he's in right now at least not financially so one hundred thousand dollars bail for Antonio Brown. We'll see what comes of it. I would imagine pearl if you're more plugged in on this but I would imagine there's is. NFL career is over right it. We reached the point of no return. We Antonio Brown I would assume so I mean he could get a unless he had a drug problem he got completely schober and cleaned up for two years. But I don't even know if that's the case 'cause you can rehabilitate pretty much. Anything might various. Yeah I mean back. The receivers don't have that much of a career length though true but the lat Antonio Brown last seen was arguably top five receiver in football certainly top oversee pursuing football arguably the best in football so there might be a team. I could see like the Las Vegas Raiders. Taking a shot on him like give it a try. See what you're totally right. Yeah Paulie but the sentiment on Antonio Brown change if he gets a psychiatric psychiatric evaluation found out he has an affliction has a disease of some sort and it comes out it's public and he embraces races and people talk about it then it's difficult for the NFL to bar him from the League if he's diagnosed bipolar or some type of disorder. Absolutely does one interview. He says he's taking medication. Now he will get another opportunity in the NFL. Because I don't think he's crossed the line in a way that makes him radioactive for NFL NFL teams. You don't you've got some stuff you got some stuff involving women but you don't have you don't have that one maybe big big thing. That would make him really early radioactive. You've certainly got some stuff involving. You Know Robert Kraft and said about ownership but that's not enough to keep mightily. I think there's just no wiggle room for a handful of teams teams to take a flyer on Antonio Brown as receiver if he as you said. Bali gets the help that He clearly seems to need that accusation. Didn't happen right after he signed with the Patriots not could still be a Patriot today. Who knows where he'd be meltdown wise but that the timing of the accusations against him was I think a day and a half after we signed my Patriot three days after her very soon after? Yep Ral yeah. He'll turn thirty two in July. That's GONNA start so it's not a huge window where he can get back now. That's true it. Look there's a trickle down effect to Antonio Antonio Brown he doesn't get cut by the Patriots might be having a different conversation about Tom. Brady right now and the future of something I want to get into a little bit later in the show as well but I orange the hour with with something I saw last week and Jimmy Garoppolo just this past week when talking about his acl injury from last season he called it a blessing in disguise. That was interesting interesting to me. Because his point was while he tore up his knee and the niners went four in twelve a year ago that season resulted in San Francisco. Getting the number two taking the drop which became Joey Bosa which is a big reason why the niners are here right now playing in Super Bowl next week. It got me thinking because a comp to that situation relation is what's happening right now golden state with the warriors. The warriors have been ravaged by injury. They have the worst record in basketball. It's bad bad out there. In Golden State they have a tough time beating and competing really with any team in the league. But just like with the forty niners. There could be a big time. Pay off down the line. Golden State could have the number one pick in the draft. They're going to have Klay Thompson back next year at thirty one years old. They're going to have steph curry curry back next year. At thirty two years old without doing anything nothing to that roster. They're probably going to be a conference contender but so with all this happening right now. They have the ability to do something big. Let's say that pick is number one no guarantee with the new lottery rules rules but let's say it is number one. The warriors lead that pick and they will have the Ngelo Russell and all star level guard. Early Twenty s three years left on his contract. They can package Russell and that picked together. And that's one of the better trade packages that I can remember and all star player on a manageable contract track for the type of player that he is potentially the number one pick in the draft. You can take and Anthony Edwards out of Georgia Lamelo Ball if you WANNA take a flyer on him. James There's Weisman who looked like a potential topic before things went South Rim in Memphis. They can go big game hunting with that package now. Let's say in this hypothetical Milwaukee gets stunned in the first round they play Brooklyn and again hypothetical Brooklyn brings that Kevin Durant and all of a sudden they're playing Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving and they could beat in the first round. Let's say because of that yawns decides not to sign that supermax extension this summer when player doesn't sign the supermax extension. It is the equivalent of a trade demand we saw with Anthony Davis a little bit before the season ended that. What's called the problem in Orleans last year? We saw with Kawhi Leonard in San Antonio it has the same effect as saying trade with me so now Milwaukee's in a position where they have to look around and say we gotta make a move. Why wouldn't they look Golden State and the package they have? Let's say the sixers Pearl off after this year. Say they decided to move off a Ben. Simmons there's a reasonable argument even without the result of the playoffs. That Ben Simmons and Joel Embiid are not built to play together absolute strong of that. How good would simmons look in that Golden State lineup? I I don't know that's my question. I think he looked good. I think you look good. The draymond on steroids kind of like a new version of draymond. You'd have a guy that can effectively guard four positions who takes the ball handling responsibilities. Go Away from Steph Curry. Who can rebound who do a whole bunch stuff? There's only like twenty five years old. So that's some place that you could look if you were Philadelphia. Serbia the team that interesting the most though and I've written this a little bit in the past but our bring it back here for a second and I get mocked all the time for this one of my takes that usually reserve for this show that I could slapped around with Houston Rockets. The rockets right now. Middle of the playoff picture in the western conference but you can easily see Houston in getting beaten. The first round the West carden pairing knock great you can see them getting beaten the first route and if they do would the rockets consider hitter trading James Harden would they look at that as a potential possibility. I get it sounds. Totally nuts hardened unbelievable offensive player. Darryl Maury says all the time into Hardin is a better offensive player than Michael Jordan and there are times watching him and seeing the things he can do but you can see it you can believe it. He's averaging thirty-seven a game. He's going to win his third straight scoring title he's leaving the NBA right now in minutes played you build around guys like that I get it. You don't trade them. Harden was twenty five twenty. Six years old. I'd agree with you but he's thirty. He'll be thirty one before the start of next season. He's logged a lot of miles down in Houston. If the rockets were positioned to get better via trade or be players in free agency. I'd agree with you. But they gave up some picks in that Westbrook deal they give some fixed there and the hardened westbrook contracts have kind of landlocked them a little bit. You can't make a lot of significant deals or be players free agency with two guys that will make eighty two million dollars combined next season. They're under contract through two thousand twenty three the last last year both their deals. I think it's like forty seven million dollars. Now let's say Golden State Offers Russell. The top pick that kind of package they want more they can throw in some pieces his to make the money work and they can offer every possible draft pick they can for the next five seasons their first swap writes all of it. Do you think about it if you're Houston. You can carry on with harden and still be an annual contender hall of Famer. No question and I think his game is probably GonNa age pretty well. The way plays I think he'll be effective in his mid to late thirties. Certainly more affected than Westbrook. Whose game is predicated? Almost entirely on speed speed Neth lettuces them but as is it the name of the game. Winning championships isn't that what we're all here for. And if you can't see a path to a championship being chip is being proactive. Better than being reactive I'll expect people used to be receptive. This fans fans of a team. Love what they have. I mean you suggest the Portland like Trade Hassan whiteside for Kevin love and your twitter. Timeline blows up with how much Kevin Love Stinks defense. You get attacked in Boston nowadays. Oh days for even suggesting Trey Marcus. Smart but being proactive to me it makes sense Boston. Did it when they traded away. Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce. I know it's not the same situation but look where the Celtics are because of that the thunder last summer when they traded Paul George Russell Westbrook. They're not a contender right now. But Shakeel Goes Alexander is excellent and they've got like one hundred seven draft picks over the next five years to rebuild. That team in a different way. I wouldn't shop. James Harden Arden if I was the rockets but at the pieces fall in place with the warriors. Don't you have to at least have that kind of conversation. Yeah Paulie the rockets have sold out all their games for the past three years and they haven't done that in a long time because James Harden the regular season. They're all set from a basketball standpoint doesn't hard and make the least sense for the Golden State Warriors Style Pass Pass Pass share share share for that. But here's my argument against that. Harden is an elite passer. He's consistently only one of the better. Assist men drill dry passing. Isn't he okay. But what was Kevin Durant. When he got there? That was another isolation heavy player. He was a great player but he also hurt their offensive style. He didn't fit their offense style didn't fit his great to championships yeah. His greatness overcame that he did not fit the Steve Kerr style l. of like a soccer offense worth past the only where I argued. The harden would be problematic in gold safe basketball perspective. Because just defense like Kevin Durant is a high level defensive player. That's something people. Don't talk about durant enough. James Harden is not and probably never going to be but the same reasons I brought up. Ben Simmons offensively harden terrific ball hand-rolled playmaker and hardened plays the way he plays because Houston tells him to play that way. They saw a window where we've got a player with the skill set of James Harden. We're going to build a team around that skill set. I know it feels like a lifetime ago. But in Oklahoma City James Harden was a sixth man. James Harden Willingly and happily accepted a role opposite westbrook and Kevin Durant. The two stars of the team team went to a finals. Like that. And you can't tell me the James Harden at thirty years old almost thirty one years old this summer at some point is head goes I gotTa Win Man Like I've won MVP. I've won three scoring. Titles I can tailor my game around these guys if it means winning championship I believe that I don't I believe James Harden Jordan is selfless enough from a basketball perspective to make something like that work. Yep All going back to the Golden State Warriors if they get thrown picking this draft. That's something they didn't expect. But it's not like when in San Antonio got it because Dave Robinson was hurt and Tim Duncan played four years at wake and came in as a sure thing great player. There's no doubts or paint man and gets hurt and they get Andrew. lucked out of the deal. which is one of the gifts of all time because of the peyton injury? If you're golden state you have to trade. That wouldn't you go everything you need to do to get Y- honest because he's still we'll way young international player in international city and is getting to be a better three point shooter by the minute absolutely and certainly if Janas turns down that extension much more obtainable. If you're Milwaukee do you think to yourself okay. We got we may have to trade this guy we may have to. Let's what's the best we can get and a young star. College player still gets buzz in the city of Milwaukee for a mid level players know. You've got to go with the best package that will get you back to that level. The fastest the unfortunate part for any team acquiring a top strap is that the strength. The top just isn't there there or isn't a Dunkin like you're talking about Paul Lebron at the top of the draft. You've got most mocks. I see Anthony Edwards Georgia match. Lamelo Ball Weisman Weisman who knows some international players. That are interesting but no Luca Danni in that mix. It's not the best draft in terms of finding a surefire franchise player. But if you Milwaukee beggars can't be choosers you cannot go into the next season unless jaanus is sign to a Max level contract but that'd be the full five years signed shorter-term deals but unless he signed to a three type of three year. Deal with the bucks. You cannot go into next season with him on the roster you have to make a deal for him and looking at what the team like a golden says to offer a point guard well before his prime years in the league and a potential top draft. Pick the foundation for that type of deal. It's not going to get much better than that. Are Eight seven seven three D. The phone number email address DP at Dan Patrick Dot com when we come back eight or morten Hausky senior. NBA insider over at ESPN. We'll talk to wage but a lot of things going on down to Orleans for Zion's debut the trade deadline in just two weeks away lots of teams out there thinking. They're in championship contention. How does that affect everything going on out there? We'll talk to next coming up on twenty minutes past the hour. This is the Dan Patrick Show. Hey it's Paulie paps for the Dan Patrick Show. We've got an awesome podcast to tell you about today. It's the big podcast with shack. 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Yes they're everywhere. How does one get a job with the Celtics being Apollo you've never explained the process My understanding is that my boss at that time liked having police officers kids work on his staff because everyone a lot of the people on the staff were son's a police officers. I don't know exactly what the purpose of that was but That was part of it. I believe yes I grew up in Chicago and obviously bears fan the bears of the biggest the town I went to a school called Marian Catholic in. There's a kid a year younger than us in. He was a ball boy for the bears and got to go to training camp Some of the practices and on Sundays. Who'd on the sidelines? Feeding the balls into the quarterbacks and so forth there is no hire former jealousy than the position. This kid held on the south side of Chicago back in the eighties. Like it was the coolest coolest thing you could be and he wore it on sleep. You know what I mean. I mean he was also the greatest college job you could ever have been. I walked out of every game with one hundred dollars in my pocket and mcclair like from the water tipped off in the locker room. And you know you you can make extra bucks from players. Some of them big tippers. I do believe like hypothetically all star guard on the east asks you to fill their hotel room with alcohol for after the game a lot of money hypothetically hypothetically you could do that not not hypothetically Scottie Pippen allows me money hundred nineteen dollars hundred nineteen dollars so as OC money no tip and Pippin took my took. The we went across the street the fours at wound up getting burned on that one. Forget what I got. It must've sandwiches. It was always sample sandwich or some kind or some kind of meal for a bunch of players and I got a hose on that one to the tune of one hundred nineteen dollars that stuck with me for a long time just kind of the way it is eight seven seven three. DP show is the phone email. Anders Dan Patrick dot COM stranger origin Hausky. NBA INSIDER ESPN pod terrific writer. I won't hi Chris how are you. Can you get my money. Back from Scottie Pippen. Yeah I'll I'll try. I'll check on that. Maybe I'll see him in studio studio here. Hundred nineteen dollars nineteen dollars. I mean you you made it back hundred nineteen dollars though for a college kid. That's at least one hundred fifteen beers if you that's right if you factor in very low level tips on that one woes. NBA All star teams. Were announced last night. I guess the only quibble I had with any of them was trae a young in that starting slot. I bought for Kyle. Lowry Ben Simmons certainly in the mix when you when you think about. WHO's all star? WHO's not? How much does team success? Assess factor in for someone like you. Yeah I think that's the hardest. That's the hardest measure because you know. Bradley appeals another player. Like in not necessarily would would Not as him as a starter but you know. He's on that wizards team team that You you know. He made that decision to stay in resigned but this is an elite player in the league. I think the coaches certainly You know I think. That's as much of a factor for them is anyone. I think they liked to reward players on winning teams that I think you see that You know with with you'll see with the reserves but Listen at the end of the day to me all NBA. Is What really matters when you wanted to find When you sort of put your mark in history of really was the best player in that season I think it's more measured by all? NBA The all Star Games Exhibition Exhibition. And if people WANNA see trae young dribble the ball through people's legs and and and and making thirty five footers to let people see trae young. That's how live you it because it's just an exhibition game. That by the way is we've seen like a Lotta guys will do what they can't get named and then get out of the. I have no problem with that. In fact if that's the case I'd go back to one hundred percent of the fan voting and let them get at them. Some of false start. It's fine you know I I agree. Listen listen to me. There is not much that is left just for the fans that anymore. I have no problem with it. Being one hundred percent fan voting Let people see who the want to see if they WANNA see Alan Iverson play. Until he's thirty eight years old and the All Star game. Let them see I play. They wanted to see McGrady play so the end of his career even when he wasn't an all star. Let them soon play. Yeah I'm with you on that when you were in New Orleans on Wednesday night for Zion's debut had him on your podcast afterwards your impressions impressions of your first appearance. I mean it was that three four minute stretch in the fourth with quarter and was it was electrifying. I mean that building I mean I thought the roof was gonNA come off and you know it's pretty rare when you know when when a moment lives up to there was so much anticipation for that For that debut into see him you know. Get a stretch of time they're scoring seventeen straight and And reminding people why you know this. This was a player. Who is the number one overall pick I? I thought You know he's just different and he said it to me after the game like I'm one of one I've unique and The body body type and how he looks. I think you have to train your eyes a little bit for something. That is different than anything we've seen before. and You I know in Alvin Gentry said to me after I asked him. You know four comparable when he's putting an offense and he's trying to figure out how to use this player our to you know to maximize that team you mentioned Barkley is like the one comparison. Now don't really play You Know Barkley became a better shooter. as time went on but I I just think this is a winning player. This is a guy who saw it in college which is just a preseason But you know you could see the way he can get to the rim. He can finish And this is is GonNa be a player who overtime would that young core. They have in New Orleans That has a chance to be a pretty good team when you talk to the Pelicans Lukens Front Office people how concerning is it that he has so much weight at his upper body and at some point there's only so much you can do to kind of prevent that type of weight from coming crashing down on those knees or that the in particular every single time goes above the rim. Well you know. I think it's part of the regimen. Jamin they put him through while he was out which was changing the way changing the way he landed changing the way he he runs an and I think for him. There's no question he's gotTa keep that way down and it was probably and you looked at him the other night. He's probably around. I I think just under three hundred I know I think they've listened to eighty five more than that. And but you know it's again. He is a player. Who you there have been great players in this league who've carried A lot of weight. And there's there's no question about it it's just it's a different body type and But there's no question should for the War Orleans you know keeping trying to find a program and a regimen that keeps him on the floor that keeps them healthy as you. You know. That's kind of paramount to what they've been trying to do and And and it's part of why he was out so long. I mean I think the knee meniscus was healed and healthy healthy and they wanted to make sure that when they put them back on the floor. he was going to be positioned be able to stay on the floor major SKI ESPN NBA insider host of the woods. pod joining us here. Dan Dan Patrick Show about two weeks away woge from the trade deadline in the NBA. Give me the most interesting team or player that you're tracking the closest right now. Well I listen I I I think that you know New Orleans is going back to them will be interesting. I mean drew holidays a player who listen. They may revisit something again with him. Between now in February sex I think now they're trying to see what the CBA looks like with I on There would be a great deal. A great deal of interest in holiday around The League but he's under contract for multiple years. I don't have to do anything with them. And New Orleans plan has been to just play a few games here with Zion. See see see what it looks like You know I think the market is especially for I mean Guys who've been all stars liked Kevin Love's and the Andrei Drums I think the market lean for them. I I don't get a sense. There's a great appetite with giving away really good first round picks for players in this In this grouping I think you see a lot of stuff around the edges Chris I. I don't think there's going to be you know there. You know how it is on February six like between you know noon and three PM nine to twelve trades or ten to fourteen trades. And I think a lot of them are going to be Around the edges and Andrei with dollars still out there and you know. We've got him in studio on Friday. tonight At ESPN countdown. And I think Memphis is believed all along they would find a deal for him And I think they've talked to that. They've certainly talked to teams in both conferences. But if he gets past February sixth and they get a buyout you know that becomes releasing Vallat market could be potentially very interesting Derek Collison. Who is is a free agent not a buyout player You know he has been strongly considering returning to play A.. And Carlson's been focused on doing that. You know way in both the Lakers and clippers would love to have him. Yeah watching the Lakers last night. The Game in Boston notwithstanding they're playing good basketball Lebron's playing at a high level. Anthony Davis back in the lineup. But the question of Kyle Kuzma still lingers out there. If he's the right fit alongside Lebron and in that kind of third star type role. What do you gather the Lakers position on? Kyle coups both the next couple of weeks. I think they'd been listening for quite a while on him. But Chris the hard part of trading him and you know this he makes two million dollars a year. And you've gotTA stack up contracts to make numbers because we assume if you're trading him for an established player who you think can help you win right now and the Lakers are absolutely in win now mode with this over the next couple of years. It's a player. WHO's making a Lotta money? Whether it's you know twelve sixteen eighteen twenty and and how much of your desk you have to try to way to make the money work on the deal you know. You have demarcus cousins contract sitting there You you you can look the roster and look at some of the names what they make and and try to figure out a way to stack up contracts to meet the money of the player. You're bringing being back and I think that's as much as anything the hard part of trading. WHO's no because he has A? He hasn't signed his rookie extension yet. Four let's go. I'm watching the trailblazers play last night. And look they lose the Dallas and it's kind of a red alert for Portland because they get the next eight games against playoff teams the ninth inning trip to the New Orleans to play Zion. And the PELICANS been disappointing. All season for a Portland if that's an injury issues. But do you get the sense. They're gonNa Kinda ride this whole thing out. And try. Try To reboot it next year or could they be active going into next week from Thursday. Yeah I don't know if there's I don't think there's a hey let's save our season move to the blazers. I don't think that makes sense for them. especially if they have to sacrifice something long term and you said listener pitches practicing again. They expect to have him back and you know I I think getting You know listen they had so much size In the preseason right and then the injury their coach goes down You know they lose You know they lost a lot of front court size and talent and it became all of a sudden. You know a really really small team but this is a team who next year you bring. Everybody back You know the the the young group of Simon's little or a year older I think this is still a core. That you know can you know can be really competitive in the western conference difference but I I just think that the the injuries have devastated them this year. But what you do have to admire about the organization and certainly Dame Lillard its top is is like. They don't WanNa take a Mulligan on it like he wants to. He wants to do everything he can to try to get that eight seat. I don't think there but it's a very competitive organization they've been in the playoffs now for You know how many years is it Chris. Seventy seven hundred years. They've been in the postseason so uh-huh dark many of that there aren't many streets like that around the league anymore no question. ESPN NBA insider pot former editor of the vertical. To can you get. ESPN two thirty for thirty on the vertical. That's would love to do that. The highlights could be you know bobby marks waving in front of a touchscreen and Tom Crean saying tyler lied. Stinks like we can just pull that out. There always good to talk to. You won't appreciate the time they start you said as Agent Orange in ASCII NBA The insider over at Espn Yali. You worked with BOJ for a while when you're with him. Does he have two phones in hand as he completely ignore you when he gets a tip taxed a source that calls like the Adam Schefter type no one thing about. What would when you're working with him? He's very inclusive. I mean he's very locked in when things happening In that moment but is very into into. He's a great teammate. Let's put it. That way is for sports. Perspective is an unbelievable teammate. And I learn more from him in three years then I learned from anyone else in the business. Yes I do. Love the insider breaking news guy props of three phones in their hands at all times. I never understood that breaking so many schools right. I've got three phones in my hand on it goes back to that. Are a goal thing entourage. He had to have two phones going. You know he said this after he got to ESPN. He said the Schefter one that told him to have two phones on different plans. Just in case you wind up in a cell area where one of your plans doesn't work. It's the same number I think. But it's two phones on different plans. which makes sense if you're in Vermont or something like that where service is not always at the finest might maple syrup though Manfred? It is awesome. All right we're brought to you by the Mercedes Mercedes. Am Be prepared for whatever comes your way in the all new. Gt Four door coupe because life is a race. Visit your local dealership for a test. Drive today if you missed any of our celebrity interviews this week from the Mercedes. AM G. Man Cave. Just go to Dan. Patrick APP go to the Dan Patrick APP where you can watch and listen from inside the Mercedes. Amd Man Cave Mercedes. AM G driving performance. When we come back Seton get some problems on super bowl Sunday? Get a little live a dilemma. That he's dealing with we're GONNA talk them through it. We come back from the break forty two minutes past the hour. This is the Dan. 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Thank you for downloading subscribing at of course supporting and now back to the show lots of getting the third hour. I WANNA bring back the conversation we were having having an athlete. Compensation Bark Emirate head of the. NCAA had some comments yesterday. We'll talk about that a little bit later in the show Pearl off poll question. We haven't really we do. We did the Eastern Conference all star Russian so by choices. Were Kyle lowry. I didn't poetry trae on there. I do not put Kemba Walker Ben Simmons or Bradley beal who didn't really mention but he's I looked at all sorts. Subsidies Alice Alice so trae young gets forty five percent of what I know he made it then. Ben Simmons then Kyle lowry and then Bradley Beal Opole like that more often than not. You're going to see the most likeable player the most aesthetically pleasing player get the most votes all star game. Well that's not what it's supposed to be. The All Star game name was strictly a popularity contest. Open it up one hundred percent fan void. They don't do that. Because what was it Zaza Pachulia. Few Years Years Back was getting all the votes and wind up as a starter in the All Star game international players get an over sized amount of the votes because an entire country is voting for them so they had to divvied up a little bit but on merit. You're not gonna be able to convince me that trae young deserves it more than Kyle lowry. Are- Ben Simmons Yeah Pirlo. I put a second poll on my twitter feed. Who would you rather have on your team? Kemba Walker Ben Simmons Care to get a result to that. Of course. You're going to vote. Ben Simmons now now sixty five percent gamma as you predicted. Oh I thought like a again. A poll like that would look younger player. Yeah as versatile that maybe I thought my twitter feed. I had my philly friend on their Ben. Simmons does have a likability problem like he's incredibly hard worker. I've been around a little bit incredibly hard worker but he does have bit of likability Elodie problem wise. NBA Fans. Maybe it's because he won't shoot like in just seems like indifferent to the idea of it. Maybe that rubs people a little bit the wrong way so now at least least. I'm right on one of your poll questions. I have all the polls on the Dan Patrick dot com twitter account at. DP Show so you guys are headed to Miami tomorrow coming back Friday or Saturday depending on what motel six. You can check into on Friday night seat. You've got a bit of a conflict on Sunday don't you. Yeah this is so this is one of those Thi this is a parental conflict right like one of those things you have to deal with as the parent a young child correct correct yeah. My son plays A lot out of soccer. He plays on Saturdays and Sundays through the winter. And I just was looking ahead at his schedule for this weekend next weekend and I just see on February February second. He's got a game at five o'clock. PM which is just horrendous. Timing who schedules. A who schedules a soccer game at five o'clock Super Bowl Sunday not a football fan Tang for sure. I have a theory on this on a soccer team. I could imagine Po- seen possibly a lot of the parents are from international backgrounds and maybe maybe the NFL's not their biggest thing. Is that fair very fair. Okay and they may have never two months ago thought for a second about the. NFL Playoffs and that that time of year is possible. It's possible it's your son. Seton old enough in aware enough to understand that football is more important than a soccer game. Yeah he he's GonNa be. He doesn't know about this yet. I don't think that he's looking at the schedule but I know he's GonNa be annoyed because he he loves football. I mean he plays soccer soccer and watches and it's probably second favorite sport but he absolutely loves it. So why isn't bailing out on the table for one game because you you spend and all of your time as a parent trying to preach like consistency and accountability. And if you signed up for this then you have to be. Their new team is counting on you all that stuff. This is more of a you. You think that you're saying if given his druthers your son would say I'm I'm good. I'm going to watch the football game. No not necessarily know he might be like well. No My team needs me. But that's because we're trying to drill that kind of accountability into his head. Well put it this way Paulie kickoff. Six eighteen isn't it about six twenty kickoff so seen could be in his chair for kickoff. But you want the whole ramp up you wanna be in your comfy seat by four o'clock for a six thirty kickoff and I think we're trying to have people over a and do like thing. I have a question for seeing. Do you think you should Ari considering sending a group note. Hey in case you missed the scheduled. The Super Bowl is one hour after gametime any chance. We could bump up kickoff kickoff to two o'clock well my guess is when they went over the schedules. Because all of the coaches have to approve these things from all of the teams that somebody was like this guy's snoozing because he's the only one that doesn't mind playing five o'clock on Sunday so I think that maybe our coach just wasn't paying attention should super bowl Sunday be listed as a national holiday. I mean there's been talk of that anyway right like the people not going in on Monday because they're up late watching the super bowl having a good time watching. It should not be something that like as you're making the schedule in advance you say right. That is basically a holiday. That game has to be at noon or earlier for it's actually happened but holidays are usually in sports when you play more games true. That's when you have a tournament and you're playing three three games that day instead of one non playing holiday will just how about just scheduling mcgahee two hours earlier. I think they'll play right. There is a there is a group text and and another APP that we all use to talk to each other. I think these things. I think you have to do it. Now though. You've nine days if you start getting in the next week and forgetting it could be too late Johnny. What kind of delays Seton to put put a button on this? What kind of delay would be enough for you to say all right? We're leaving like is it twenty minutes if the game doesn't start your game then start to five twenty five thirty. They're they're walkaway point. That happens to and even if the game started right at five they do two twenty five minute halves with a little break in between. So you're looking at. It's going to be six o'clock doc before the game's over anyway because you if it goes late you run. The risk of the potential like Patrick Mahomes could have two touchdowns in the first five minutes. You could sit down and be like Oh man the other way. Garoppolo saying tougher stick. I have to have a half an hour cut off by thirty. We're going home. Keep behind the story. Update you next week. Lot More to get you in the final hour stick around. This is the Dan Patrick Show as promised. Here's a clip from the big podcast with Shek. I've never ever seen this early though. That's what I'm saying. Difference the first couple of weeks Caesar. So it's it's it's too on that one you think you're so okay that that you can let guys sit out. You don't care about your position in the playoff. You're going to win no matter what it's a it's a really tough gamble really tough. I've I did it so I'm not going to criticize whenever especially when I got older. One Guy said take a special that my God they're filled with look at the standings and I don't know how he did it. He kept away from Utah and he kept away from on and say the rockets all the time. He just kept us away so he would come and say I take these two games. I'll be like maybe celebri- need a ride a bike like he would just know and you know his thing was. We needed some type of homegrown vantage preferably the number one spot. But it's been going on for years so so you know it's a gamble I feel a feel for the fans when you pay your money to see certain play. He doesn't play I. I do feel go for that but this is chess not shook you wanna championship where you want a guy to come play game and possibly get hurt on those some Utah to think about. But he can't happen. I can't knock it because I've done it. Just I just notice a gamble and I feel both sides.

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Hour 1: Black Eye For Basketball

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Hour 1: Black Eye For Basketball

"So God's ear everything's a little sluggish January. Maybe it's the cold weather the holiday hangover or the end of football season. Whatever the reason everything slow in the wintertime including your vehicle's battery battery so think ahead stop by your local events auto parts as soon as you can? They'll test your battery for free movement necessary if you need a new one. They'll install it plus enter the code Dan Twenty when you buy online twenty percent of your battery purchase advance auto parts. They go ahead they could vance. Stugatz has gone through all of the Antonio. O.`Neil Brown takes that you will find anywhere in sports media and on the Internet and he has found the one no one else taking we will get to that in a second he has exclusive. You'll only hear it here opinion on the Antonio Brown the latest Antonio Brown incident but but before we get to that we have to thank Kansas and Kansas State. For giving a something on a slow Wednesday there was a fight. Someone grabbed a stool stool and then everyone started panicking and worrying about America's children and again about what an honor and a privilege to play college basketball. So if you did did not see it last night. Evidently it escalated with four seconds left in a blow out. Everybody was just watching the normal twenty twenty point loss by Kansas State against Kansas and it lasts four seconds of the game a kid. I've Kansas state steals the ball. That's considered unsportsmanlike the kid from in Kansas. Because he's a lot better runs back blocks the shot stands over him and taunts him. And next thing you know there's a brawl spilling into the stands and guys grabbing having a stool. All of it made worse by the stool grabbing by the way once. You've got one kind of menace which just fists but then once the stool is grabbed right eight objects a stool. We have been doing this in some form or another. See if you guys could come up with something earlier than this. Since Alan Iverson was in high school the fight in the bowling alley that looked a lot like that usually. We don't have the video but when we have the video when we have the video of the fight then next thing you know Alan. Iverson is being railroaded. Hill wrote it because it's terrifying. There was a giant person swinging until a stool. That's always horrify. Yes has that always escalates. The situation. Everyone everyone was rabid and crazy. Now Bill self is going. After his own home players Bruce Weber site kind of less. Sure Bruce Weber. Bruce Weber is not doing what bill self is. Here's bill self has to say were in the wrong sand both parties born in the wrong but I know that we were in the wrong bell south. Some accountability wow. You'd think he'd be wigging out Defended the joke. So this is ridiculous as you guys may know Seth Greenberg Org is a protector of the Cathedral stands outside front up front and allows people in or out depending on their behavior and where it is that they're partaking speaking in blasphemous behaviour. Seth Greenberg had the response of much of fish shaking finger-wagging America me when you put on that uniform you represent present. Everyone would walk before you. And it's a privilege to put on that uniform not a rite of passage and you embarrassed who are in our history and because of that I bet you know this is a black eye on everything and anyone who's ever played at this institution and this type of behavior is unacceptable. Wow like I for Danny Manning Sherman. Douglas is sitting here saying. Wait a minute what do you mean justice uniform to do with him. Turning over over in his grave source of shame for anyone who has ever college basketball woke up this morning and felt ashamed because somebody was angrily swinging a stool nella funds L. is gets caught up in the air though. Here's to God's where he is coming down very hard on the kids as you must right. You don't want these fights these are it. We can all agree. It is wrong to resort tool swinging menace. We can not do that although television will profit greatly today after. Ah taking all of that video and showing you again and again scared customers fleeing like cockroaches. When you've turned on the kitchen light like scared customers got into the way of the stool swinger but funds? O Ellis's here to castigate the players. And then he pivot now. I'm not proud of it but actually shocked the point guard from Butler. When I was in college at Notre Taming through a cheap elbow on my guard and being the big man I was supposed to protect my Gar and all my teammates ran the pool? Me Away from him. The disappointing thing about the video here here. Where would the Kansas players where the leaders on that team coming and pulling their teammates away? Three dudes actually ran in there and participated in the process. I feel like the leader was swinging stool. I feel like the Fonz was proud of it. It does let's hear that sound again and put on the podium at Lebatardshow was L- Affonso. Actually Shirley proud of it. I'm not proud of it but actually showed the point guard from Butler. When I was in college at Notre Dame he threw his elbow guard and being the big man I was supposed to protect my guard? He's laughing at me right. I think you might be right. Lonzo is indeed a proud of it. So what else is there to say about this subject. Don't don't do that. You're going to make America wring. Its hands and scare people. Bill South is flipping his LID. Why won't Got To have a system in place to prevent this Wonder what kind of treatment he's given the players he wears a toupee. That's a joke. That's a joke is making again and again BILLION MIGRA arguing in this morning. They were upset because a fake playlist or playlets for the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl's in town a lot of people on the street staying in hotels. It didn't know where bad wearing very nice suits and walking with briefcases. The Super Bowl is getting here. Slowly there are a lot of people on the street. Your where normally their bathing suits are a lot of suits walking toward money without naming any places Jason specifically oftentimes when people come in from out of town and they want to travel to a big game near the stadium. They'll start looking for hotels near the area and Dan. They'll say wow. This hotel is right next to the stadium and then you just sit back and delight in the yelp reviews. That's still called the nope we don't need to get into what it's called but locals now and we will all appreciate the yelp reviews just because your hotel is on the beach down here does not mean. Your hotel is nice. I mean I'm sorry. There are certain Iraq they're going to wreck There are some bad decisions that can be made on the Internet as we all know whether it's in dating or in in choosing BNB's based on the photographs. Be careful all of you are wondering wow this seems cheap and close to the beach. Why would I not do this? Why is it so cheap? I got a bargain no you didn't. I'm sorry for what the rest of your life is going to look but it has gardens in the name. It must be so nice of driving fake aac of all the players who have played for Kansas Kansas State and the player who cares the least about having a black guy. This morning I think Michael Beasley. It's funny that you should say that because I didn't realize in doing Danny Manning that you are doing Kansas and Kansas State when I did Sherman Douglas. I was just doing the shame on all college basketball. Anyone who has ever worn a uniform. Bill Walton should be ashamed today. Because Seth Greenberg says look this is a black guy for everybody involved. I've got a black guy. You've got a black guy. Anyone who watches cares about college basketball has black guy anyone's coach college basketball has blackout anyone. Who's been federally wiretapped doing illegal? Things has a black black eye. Anyone who has cheated anyone who has had fourteen seconds of sex in a restaurant has black guy. Everyone's got a black guy to me when you put on that uniform you represent represent everyone who's walked before you and it's a privilege to put on that uniform not a rite of passage and you embarrassed who we are and our history and because of Evatt. This is a black eye on everything and anyone who's ever played at this institution and this type of behavior is unacceptable will chamberlain went to Kansas and they got a black eye. Well didn't Seth Greenberg coached at Virginia Tech. So I don't feel like anyone who's put on that uniform. Inform has a reason to feel the shame. Today isn't bill self being investigated. Yes he's one of the many being investigated but this is the black guy. This is the black. Not The federal wiretaps this swinging of a stool with menace. Put It on the Pole Guillermo at Lebatardshow what is worse. Swinging a stool with menace or or federal wiretaps. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance drivers switch and save pay an average of seven hundred ninety six dollars less per year. Here's here's your sportscenter. Update Derek jeter. Larry Walker will be inducted into the baseball hall of fame. JEETER was one vote. Shy that unanimous selection. Ted Simmons Simmons seriously and former Brad Penny got a vote. No he didn't Brad Penny got a vote horse. I think Ted Sentences in though Ted Simmons and former Players Association leader Marvin Miller also be inducted through the modern era committee. How many committees do they have? I'd put Brad Penny the hall of fame just for the conversation. I had with him before. Pitching against the Yankees in the world series in which his entire staff was telling him quit trying to throw. Oh Ninety eight quit. China's throw ninety eight and then I asked him. What are you going to do? And he's like throw ninety nine. The Hollywood Police Department in Florida is investigating Antonio Antonio Brown and his trainer after allegations of them. Battering the driver of a moving companies truck outside of Brown Brown has not been arrested as of yet hat while the trainers been booked on felony burglary and battery charges. This sport center's brought to you by advance auto parts. 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He already thinking about what he's going to do after football with acting. Is it going to be an action star. ARS scenario he is going to be hosting Saturday night live. I have no idea how that would go. I think that that would go stiffly but maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm totally wrong. Maybe he would He's so good around the cameras and he's been around the cameras so often that he'll be good at any time this time of year. Download the vivid seats APP and enter Promo Code the SPF twenty-five at checkout to get ten percent off your next door. Don't buy just any seat. Get a vivid seat Mike. You seem to light up at the idea of. Jj Watt hosting a Saturday night live. Jj Watt I think. That's an inspired choice. I always enjoy when they get the sports star to Ho Saturday night. Live just physically. There's a lot of funny funny things to do there. I also hope that he can make it through the full show without hurting his shoulder. So what were you guys arguing about or talking about as it relates adds to the set list for the Super Bowl because the super bowl is arriving in town now. And because we've got it's a it's going to be distinctly Miami Latin experience variance that is how J. Lo and Chikira end up. Getting chosen are guesses that Pitt Bull and Rick. Ross and a whole bunch of other people will be thrown in To the mix six what happened with With the settlers though is there People were titter on twitter. I guess there is a leaked image. It doesn't look very official if you ask men but this is what they did Dan. So it's a piece of paper that could say anything on it and now that I'm looking at it doesn't even look like things like line properly. Doesn't it matter because it looks like it was crumpled up slightly and people had stepped on it like it was on the floor so someone came across what could or could not have been elite. Set List that was left behind during a possible rehearsal or practice. Someone definitely stepped on this at least one time. Which makes you think you know what this is probably legitimate? Even though the kind of the papers facing this way in the words are facing that way so like why would these things not be alive but it doesn't matter you know what Dan I'm just GonNa in a review said leaked settlers and tell me what you think because you're going to get excited all right so but before before we go down this path where you guys initially excited and then realized is it was fake. Did you get caught on the gossip train of like somebody thought it was real as you know Yesterday in a way that caused me great shame that allowed my fiance laugh in my face. My wife excuse me when we got home look going home today East again. I used a I got I got divorced and reengaged. It's good for those. That had the laughed in my face because I came home despondent and how I had been fooled by the Internet yesterday. Yeah and so. How did you guys feel initially well? Here's the thing Dan you say that it's fake but I mean it seems to be credited to spirit America which means Good Morning America America would actually means get up America and we have a show called up so this seems like a legitimate thing. This right this is super fake. Nowhere to huge red flags known enough sat. Let's just go down the list. All right things are going to get started with J.. Lo performing get right then we're GONNA move onto j.lo's singing waiting for tonight and then by J. Lo and then Dan Dan things get juicy so Jaylo is then going to perform. I'm real J. F. Medley with John Rule Red Flag number one. What what why? He's not going to be. A part of the Cheryl has to be part of the Super Bowl. Then secure comes out making her grand entrance to. She will remember that Song Dan and then she'll continue singing powerful and someone named named. NSM IS GONNA come out. I don't know who that is. Who is that Mike? And am I not Mexico or something. She's got a new song with on Willow. Oh no this is an then chantale. Hay Duda on me. You're GONNA come out. With a Gustav Madly then beautiful liar by Shakira and Dan beyond say biggest flag of the mall. Why you're going to be there beyond just going to grace the sage for one song insecure cure in jail are going to be totally cool with beyond say getting on the stage and totally stealing the show and beyond say just going to be like all right guys you go ahead and bring on pit bull book your mind on Jay z's helping out with these halftime show they go roy so that makes us even more legit but why would they allow beyond said totally steal their show? Laughter BioNIC comes. Then then we're GONNA go to. Whenever whatever slash belly dance medley by Shakira and accents? Then this is actually well-crafted get lit as they got outlive. The belly dance medley. I think yeah we just got let us look official. Because they have like the choreograph numbers on things start getting lit and then on the floor. Jalen pit bull and then we're going to kind of calm things down and actually you know what we're ending on a high note hips don't lie by Shakira and Wycliffe John cameos meals aplenty. Yeah probably the biggest song of both of their catalogs makes sense one starts the other one closes and you really have Shakira closing bunny biggest. Get Song but it's there's no way. John Rule. Fresh off of the fire fest controversy is going to be anywhere doing like a tax. Isn't he involved with some sort of tax. The situation now. I'm not saying in his personal life. I'm saying as a business plan that he I it seems like terrible idea. I have not heard of rule. Yes no no way. That's going to be. So what are you saying Andrew from night Al Cookies would put out something. That's not legit. The as a tax preparation company come on man. Ah Trust Jar rule who came on the poll at Lebatardshow. Is there anyone you trust less with your taxes than Jarrell. Keep in mind and you can play some entertainment purposes offices all around this halftime. It's a betting bonanza and if this were legit you can get the jump on some great odds but do you think it's real do. Do you really think the NFL. And Jay Z are allowed jowl rule around this moreover. Do you think secure and Jaylo are goodell. Albion's anywhere near that stage. It's going to be an entertainment extravaganza. I don't think any of us can deny that and pre-game Dan DJ called- concert on the field before the game even started and pit bulls having a concert at some other states. Somewhere more than I need to figure out where that is so that I can get to that. So are they going to have people do a pre game concert part of which will be aired on Fox and then come back out for the halftime show. I don't know. Oh He's GonNa be their jobs. Copy US does credit repair. I'm curious one hundred dollars off through the door. That's what jaws promoting one hundred dollars just for walking through the doors and of payroll taxes. We'll take care of credit. The entire Miami experience of what it is that they are trying to do here. I think it has to be glossy and superficial and I also think J Lo's music demands it does it not. I really don't even mean that as an indictment I mean it more as a catalog in twenty twenty. It's going to be difficult to have Jaylo musically sustained by herself the Headline Act. Well it's GONNA be. It's GonNa be heavy on the choreography. If you've seen Jaylo performed lately it's always superheavy. She's in terms of entertainment. Probably probably stronger of a dancer vocalist putting putting him politely. What you don't like about this list is i? Don't see it rods name on here. Yeah Yeah and he absolutely needs at least four dedicated minutes to inspire it looks like in two thousand and eleven job pled guilty for failing to file tax tax returns. This show aim free time for some ads. He served his time fine. Let them do the halftime show. He's real like to go. I was perfectly comfortable on my casper mattress. Unfortunately I had to get off fit and come in here to stand next to God's but I will be back to my beloved Casper soon. To God's tell them why we love Casper Yeah. It's winter during scary outside so usually be staying in with Casper from award-winning mattresses. Pillows sheets and do Vase Casper transforms the way we sleep and Dan keeps US cozy all sees it. The Casper Mattress is award-winning balance of comfort and support from Betty. Bed frames and even a dog bed. Casper's everything you you need to build a bed of your dreams start waking up on the right side of the bed gets empty off any purchase with a mattress today at Casper Dot Com and use code cozy. That's Casper Dot com code cozy for ten percent off terms and conditions apply see casper dot com slash terror valet. You're listening to the Dan Le Batard show on ESPN RADIO ESPN. Radio is presented by Progressive Insurance guests on the Dan Le Batard show appear via the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Protect your engine. This winter use pennzoil synthetics motor royal made from natural gas crude oil. Here's your sports center. Update Derek jeter and Larry Walker will be inducted into the baseball hall of fame. Jeeter one vote shy of a unanimous selection Ted Simmons and former players association leader. Marvin Miller will also be inducted through the modern era committee. The Hollywood Police Department Florida's investigating Antonio Brown and his trainer after allegations of them battering. The driver of a moving company truck outside the Browns Home Brown has not been arrested as of yet while the trainers has been booked on felony burglary and battery and finally the National Weather Service in Miami has issued an unofficial warning for following a guavas on Tuesday night due to the unusual cold cold snap. That's hit the Sunshine Sunshine State. This isn't something we usually forecasts. But don't be surprised if you see a guavas falling from the trees tonight. As lows those drop into the thirties and forties the weather service tweeted a guavas or cold-blooded they slow down or become mobile. When temps drop into the forties? They may hey fall from trees but they are not dead. The Weather Service said if you love natural valley sweet and salty bars ars and who doesn't you'll love the new love him. What did I just say natural I am I eat one every morning? I'm so sorry that's embarrassing. Actually if you love the nature valley sweet and salty bars and who does. It's you'll love the sweet and salty minis. It's all the indulgent savory. Goodness you know now in a smaller size at one hundred calories snacking has never been so sweet my apologies for all the latest headlines and information tune the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day. That Outta Guana thing is something that many people in South Florida have to learn the hard way that happened to Pat Riley. One time came out and yard or a bunch of Ghana's in the backyard that seemed like they were dead so buried them those they were dead murderer. Murderous Pat Riley just accused him of a crime an accidental crime on the radio and then he told us the very next morning. There were holes in the ground they got out and live happily ever after attempted murder murderer. They had better lives afterward. We're warm when they were buried but it stands to reason if an Iguana falls out of tree frozen that it's that I mean most people Volvo. Obviously they've that okay. Put It on the Pole Guillermo at Lebatardshow if an Iguana falls out of a tree in thirty degree weather is it dead. Or is it not The reason that this kind of stuff is a bit of news to us. These weather forecasters got it all wrong. We are never prepared in south Florida for anything that resembles a cold snap. We laugh every year when the temperature dips into the high fifties. Were like Whoa. This winter is brutal But all of us today were surprised that it dipped into the thirties last night. Out of nowhere Dan every now and then Mother Nature likes to let you know that she's still here. I had to turn the heat on last tonight. And when you turn the heat on you have turned the heat on in a while and your house. It smells like your house is on fire like oh I don't know what to do when the heat side I get very nervous. I can't go to sleep with the heat on. None of us have any chance right now. The rest of the country is like really guys these really boohoo. But let's just explain to you how ill-equipped well equipped all of us are for winter. And it seems to have just dawned on Mike and Roy that babies need winter winter clothes that it's not something we normally need around here. Dan Babies grow quite quickly especially early on. So you're not GonNa if you're going to spend money on a war Joe that she's probably GonNa wear once or twice in her lifetime. You're not planning for thirty degree weather down in south Florida so I woke up woefully underprepared and my baby's wearing plenty of layers and is bundled up appropriately. Roy has a slightly older child the two year old and he took a totally different approach. He did he really did. And I just saw the pictures and it was. You know they say in In invention attention is What is it is it? Necessity is the mother of invention is the mother of necessity. Whatever that's the So what is it that you invent it We invented a Halloween costume. That's what we did. We dressed up in a halloween costume. You know that book and subsequent movie where the wild things are. She dressed up as the king of beasts. Basically you know and that's made for boy kick piece. Did you keep the crown on the cost that was attached was sold on. So yes but you had a warm. You had a warm Claire. Yes she looked at me funny but yes. She was warm participant at Lebatardshow on twitter. Roy's Halloween costume as winter gear shameful or efficient resourcefulness resourcefulness. Hattie play down here yet they improvise. You do gotTa do what you gotTa do it. We are not people they were equipped for this Whether what is it. The what's the video you keep playing there of Kyle Shanahan that you're obsessed with. It's amazing this is This is against the packers game game and he is standing against the packers and he is standing right next to the referee. He calls a play and I believe he calls the play to dry penalty. Flag Zoe standing the next to the referee is a play drawn up to throw it to to grab to George Kibble and he tells the referee before the play starts. Hey He's GonNa start inside and try to go outside they're not going to let them go outside their holds him like he knew it. He knew exactly what was going to happen. They snapped the ball. He drives to go inside bounce back outside. They hold them to penalty flags he called that place specifically to get the whole thing call all because if they don't hold their Dan he is wide open. Now no no no. I think he chewed that. Play up specifically to only get penalties called hold on the other team because if you watch that play that was actually controversial call because George kiddle initiates all the contact to the point. That defender has no choice but to hold George George kiddle because he is shoving him off and yes. He's going to be open. Because George kiddle is initiating the contact I think I'll change hand designs that play and as part of that play design. It's called Shanahan laying the seeds planting the seeds with the referee. Saying Watch out for holding here Maybe you're right I just love it. I love that. He's standing right next to the referee. You hear the sound. He is telling them exactly. What's going to happen? And to the referees credit he's listening it's smart. Yeah that's smart because we have it's cliche how much we hear you could call holding on every play. Okay so so let me draw up a play in which we can sort of draw some fifty fifty contact and if I tell the referee to look specifically for this other player holding my player and I make it seem team is oh that's actually happening. Boom I down huge play. He's very good with tendencies. Some of these guys are so sophisticated with this stuff. You've heard the stories of like Greg. maddox telling his teammates. In the dugout three pitches beforehand. A pay attention. There's GonNa be a foul ball rocketed in here On third and eight early in that game when it was zero zero third and eight Based on everything he knew about how Green Bay plays defense. He called a run play out of nowhere that went for a touchdown of like twenty or thirty yards. That would it's one was at one. Yeah the first one. I one That would have been the call would have been criticized because third. Nate's you don't get a lot of conservative draw plays but it couldn't have worked more flawlessly. You alluded to this yesterday. I Know You hate the coaching carousel and not many of these guys. Make a difference Air France. It appears the niners found a guy who is smart. who absolutely makes a dent? Well it's hard to dispute based on his resume what he did with. Rg Three The way the Atlanta Falcons looked as an offense that Matt Ryan hasn't looked that way since I would say another thing. That is hard to argue. Hugh is these players are not very special going into that system. George Kettle had had fewer than fifty catches at I wa MOSTAERT is waived. My seventeen. Garoppolo is fine as a quarterback back but like what they're doing offensively sort of get your attention because you're asking yourself well. Who are the special guys out here? Who are the guys like? Where's Julio Jones am I believe that seven? NFL teams are just flat out insanely dumb for not giving most shirt one carry or do I wait against. Maybe there's something to this scheme. I'm not disputing that. kiddle is great. I'm not I'm just saying. There were no indications that he was great before it is that he ended up there on all sides golf. Yeah sorry about that to dance point though. And that's he can't I can't hear I can't hear and hopefully I have money on me today here. Let's move it along on. Come on I I was home point. Let's go let's go to fuel itself was making the point. 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Wednesday January twenty nine th through Friday January thirty first from six eight hundred six P.. It's all happening Golick and Wingo the Dale Archer wits. To God's I take your take and the well cage show we'll be live on. ESPN RADIO AND ESPN news. From Radio and here right many of those people will be through here. PT is going to be here. I take is going to be here and staying here. Yeah I think they're just promoting the radioside. The television shows will DB be right here tune into here. Great Conversation Incredible guests and lots of fun by from Miami Beach It's presented presented by progressive and Grainger. I used to love that. NFL that edge NFL. Matchup show I really did learn a lot and I think that Dan Lobski. WHO's GonNa join us here? Is the air apparent that our network to rendre war ski and Merril Hodge when it comes to explaining football in a way that the layman in can understand. Because you know that what we're watching on. Sundays is just like you just like you showed us that video that Kyle Shanahan seeing things that we can't possibly see out there while watching and it's the commentators job very often to explain it to us but I feel like over time they've done a really poor job of it all across all all of our networks explaining to us in a way what we're watching. That makes Tony Romo. Stand out when he arrives. And he's like here's what you're watching. This is what you're watching and our loft offs. Does that who who rivals are Lobski right now at the network in terms of just simply being able to explain football to you in ways that allow you to learn something almost every any time. You're watching I think Ryan Clark does an exceptional job of exploiting what is that you're seeing or maybe not see and that's really the important part. What don't you see Eh and I think Ryan Clark does an exceptional job of the so anyway? That's not the part that we're extending here. We are accenting. That are lofty. Got Into a brawl with Stephen. A Smith Smith seem naismith. You might have seen has been training for his time in Miami. He is sending out on Instagram Clips of him boxing. He's got a bit of a a left Hook that would just crush a toddler Just toddler would just get. It'd be a body blow to toddler. Because he was going to the left side. So Orlovsky and Stephen a Smith Smith get into it back and forth and this is how that goes when Stephen Smith Says Yeah Alex Smith would also be in the super bowl with the chiefs are has a weapons. The reason why I Patrick Mahomes is so great courses. I'm looking at a guy like Patrick mahomes and saying excuse me. I'm not denying the fact that you are great. The flip side I too is that is great as you look. It has also helped because unlike basketball. You can't just put the ball in the hole. You patch holes. You need those brothers to get open. You need to run the right right. You need them to be as effective as they've been and I'm telling you this. These brothers are elite and that helps along the way now. Do I think the Alex Smith could have gone to the Super Bowl Bowl this year with that crew to Stephen just do twenty four. We find out. I'm for sure who said get lost. It's really That that expression I miss it. It's it feels. Like get lost is gone from the American lexicon wrong about this Ad. scrammed a good screen but get lost so much stronger than you imagined. Dan Lobski told Stephen a Smith to skram. uh-huh who said get lost. Was it loss gear with seven minutes all right so our scheme GONNA end up joining us. Here it's twenty four. Nothing or was twenty reporting. Sounds like such a test rate cry at the album and because because we all know it's as efficiently as he could have said. We all know that Alex Smith isn't really the best that coming back from twenty four. Nothing yes I just I just I just I do the twenty four. I mean it's it is a cry for help. He is wailing for help. Says Stephen Ace dob plea applete Stephen Jessop do there. Is something there musically not just with the yes. I do but the very end of that listening to Steven A.. At the very end of that because there are musical notes being hit there by remote merely sounds like his breath. Yes to Stephen Talk to it is it. Is that what he's repeating again. And foghorn Stephen Dan on Lonski is gonNA join US next U._S._A.. Easy on E._S._P._N. radio.

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"The Dan Le Batard Woodstock Gotcha podcast is brought to you by the capital one saver card or four percent cashback on dining and entertainment Ju- percent grocery stores of one percent on all of the purchases now when you go out you can't Jim what's in your wallet terms of plot so there's another phase of this whole Antonio Brown saga as we learn last night one. That's slightly more difficult to talk about and laugh about yeah. The scales done yeah. The Fun. Yeah is a genus united genius scales done so many people full-text texted me last night. It's over like I. We're not going to be able to make fun of this anymore. Yeah the the fun has officially stopping you know I was able to look past the murder and Josh Gordon Violating League's Substance Abuse Policies but now I'm beginning to think that the Patriots treats own have the special ability to just stop this nonsense altogether. Well this happened before he was a Patriot league. This isn't something happened on. The Patriots washes happened in two thousand seventeen anything anything no. I understand an Aaron Hernandez dirtbag before he got to the Patriots and Josh. Gordon had his mess ups before he got to the Patriots. It's just like we always just assume from that. Everything's GonNa break right and now. I think that there's enough recent history here to say that that's probably an inaccurate cliche. At this point I think though that as it relates the Patriots the only way that it's fair to analyze it is does he control it on the field. Does he control it in the locker room. Does he control it on premises I don't know that you can necessarily know that you are welcoming a murderer in Aaron Hernandez Anandas into your huddle because he was in a lot of huddles before we realize that he was that and so I don't know how fair it is to put that on the Patriots you just know before. He's played a game now. Some of the stuff around him follows him there as well that part. They've got no control in fairness. This also only an accusation and it's a loss like like this is not legally like something. That's confirmed that happened. Now you see the tax and obviously there's past behavior in here and there's details in the laws who but it is just a lawsuit you're right. You're right what about that but the details of that lawsuit whether you believe the crime of it or not those text messages are a smear patriots creates organization and I would ask you this question seriously like is that still welcome and just sells home like when those because I know wouldn't be in mind you're talking about. The reports that Tom Brady says that Antonio Brown can save is House. Yes thank you for the clarification but the text messages that came out yesterday which I don't know whether you found them believable or not but I found those text messages believable and angry as this descends the he said she said and now his attorneys counter-attacked her attack because it's what you must do. Even if you're if you're not guilty or if you're guilty it's what lawyers do well even even the stuff that he's admitted to uh-huh by saying that he's had this consensual sexual relationship while that's someone that's not his wife and the stuff that he admitted to over text which is the self pleasure while the person's in the room unbeknownst to them. I mean that's what got Louis C. K. et well even though they knew that it was going on like even the stuff that's already out. There is crazy. Roese unseemly for the Patriots now have this air and I should clarify I just sort of is just sorta roll my eyes at the whole i Patriot culture and all that Jeff because it. It's really no different there than it is. Any place have no control over any of that. Sodas Bella check though belichick actually answered one time when asked about the Patriots sways like I've never. I don't think I've ever used that expression. I don't know what that is is. What belichick said to it but this stuff. I don't know how you can control this stuff and I'm dead serious about having the conversation. Antonio Brown was staying in. Tom Brady's house. There were pictures on social media that made it feel. You're like a buddy cop movie here. They come perfect season and now these details not. He said she said not civil suit the details on what is being said in those text messages. Do you believe that Yoursel wants that in her house. Do you believe that Antonio Antonio Brown is still going to stay. Tom Brady's out. I mean the fact that it's just I mean we can discuss any wife really no no but there's a reason I'm specifically specifically making it. GENUCEL is because she it's not Tom. Brady you watch the inner workings of Tom. Brady's life what he's willing to show you. there aren't questions about whether sal is in charge. They're not as the breadwinner just Tom. Brady loves her that way and you would understand how a hugely powerful woman but any woman obviously but a hugely powerful woman who has been empowered and doesn't have to deal with this kind of stuff in her life anymore how she'd feel about having in her house even at this wasn't Antonio Brown if this was a personal friend Tom Brady for the past twenty years who is known in college in this happens visit him. Of course they're not gonNA welcome in her house. Absolutely now at anybody react to Oh. You've just met this person and roughly twenty four hours. After there's this story in you have children in your house like and the fact that it's just who is a public figure in a post me to world. The optics of all of this is bad. I don't know how much of that was hyperbole. and how much of it is it. Is He actually saying in this house. I don't know if they were just joking around in the media media but if he is actually saying in the House that's that's quite the dynamic in the conversation that that married couple needs to. I'm sure it's a big house. I'm sure there's a guesthouse. How's that you know. Wes Welker told us about those warm toilets. I'm sure you could probably go months walking around the Brady House one of the Brady houses without ever ever running into Antonio Brown or hearing of him unless it's the echo through the cavernous bowling alley what I what I'm most interested obviously because this happened before the Patriots Watch but now it's their situation right and we saw how they dealt with the Aaron Hernandez thing which was Kinda weird because they just cut it off and they didn't really answer any sort of direct win. That's how they always always handle everything though Mike that's how they handle every single thing just shut up and don't say anything right and they bought so much capital with the media and fans because of their success and we just sort of accepted it which is really bizarre where I think any other team would be held to a higher standard of accountability at least in terms of like talking into a microphone. This is an active player now. There hasn't been any reports that they were interested in porting ways just yet. It'll be curious to see if that's a path that they decide to take now so this is your problem. It's become your problem regardless of whether it happened on your watch or not. How do you respond. You think. There's a possibility that they let him go. I don't I don't I dude dude with this story over the last week. Nothing surprises me anymore. Nothing the twists and turns it would not surprise me if he plays on Sunday and post two hundred yards and three touchdowns and WanNa prize me at all if he's a healthy scratch or if they decide to cut 'em today nothing really this whole dog. I'd be I'd be surprised I'd be surprised because it's a civil suit because it still in accusation form because you don't even know how the NFL can react to it. You don't I know that because of the civil nature of it you don't know the way the NFL will react to it. I would be surprised Mike if they if they let him go without benefit of the doubt allowing to at you know at least help them in their self interest they could use benefit of the doubt as well. We need to get him understood in prior into this very serious allegation. What's your inviting with. Antonio Brown is the circus and we all assumed they can handle the circus. Regardless of the the accusations are not what's already out. There is Circassian what's been admitted to in texts is pretty crazy already that what's what's out. There already needs public addressing. It's it is something if those texts are accurate. Okay what it is. Antonio Brown has showed you you a good deal of his life. If those texts are accurate that is something as a side of him that none of us have seen and it is demeaning saying it is bullying it is you know jealous rage type stuff and if it's true some of it seems to indicate gate illegal like some of it is incriminating if the texts are true yet and it's a things can get lost in translation when you look at print but it does seem like rage judge and I'm sure there's probably already been discussions between the Patriots and the Commissioner's officers very real possibility Antonio Brown might just end up on the Commissioner's exempt list as they all figure this one out because we keep learning with all this the NFL keeps trying case by case set a template of some source the details on every single one of these are different an and this is an mean Antonio Brown finds a way to make things X. Radio Brian Mike. I think I honestly think there is the possibility here that it the NFL simply looked or considers putting him on that list just because of the general behavior that is doing this staining paining of the League. This is in terms of final drops in a bucket. You put this one in there. That's felonious legal that we're talking about. If it's you know if it's a conviction conviction were talking about a crime that's sizable with with a penalty just out of concern for what the Hell is going on in. Antonio Brown's head right now literally in a league that has questions about what's going on in the heads of their players I gotta gotTa think that those conversations might even be being had right now because of the way he's dominating the news stream with stuff. That's not favourable before this always fairly it. It was fairly benign before it is it was the door on the couch off of his balcony in south beach so there was a passage almost striking somebody that was a lawsuit involved there and now you look at that incident when you see the rage filled texts that are now out on social media and things start to correlate a little bit and Tony Brown quite honestly I think is I think his career is on the line because if the Patriots decided to move on from him I I know that there was a slight bidding war and the browns and Seahawks were reported to be interested in them the if the Patriots cut bait less than a week into this experiment. I really don't see who invites this into their locker room considering the week that we've seen all but mike nothing has actually changed in the last week about the person that Antonio Brown is all that the Patriots have endured right now not unlike the raiders is sort of the bad timing of when things happen before games have been played. We're also assuming that they didn't. I didn't know this was going on now. I don't know that you'd sign Antonio Brown without looking into everything that's going on around him so it's very possible that they knew this was a possibility possibility and still it's a good question. I wonder that's a good question. I wonder how thoroughly those things. I know that their security teams for all. NFL teams those guys could the best books in the League all of them because of the things that they have to do in the shadows but given what we've seen of the Patriots in general. I'm not sure how good their background checking is. You consider some of the things that they've invited into the locker room. I would say I'd be very surprised if they knew about it not just knowing that this would be in the news stream relatively soon normally that stuff would leak out if someone were on the open market by one team remember the thirty two the teams that are doing their due diligence and the raiders as it would seem as the documentarian that joined us earlier in the week. The raiders were already worked in the media and putting their own spin on on this. This is something that would drive. Somebody's value down if the Patriots were in on that the story being out there and so interested in bringing them in in might actually be beneficial because it would drive as market value down so. I don't think any team knew about. Let me ask you guys this question. Though is it possible it say because this is one of the reasons is that it's very difficult for the NFL to get involved with this kind of unseemly stuff if the Patriots got a whiff of hey a civil suit might becoming. Can you envision a scenario where they go to him and they're like hey. What is this give us more information about a civil suit also with the knowledge that these guys. NFL players athletes whatever this place they live has a lot of this kind of stuff in it where a woman is saying acts and a man is saying. That's not what what it is and so. Where do you go for your information on that. If the civil suit hasn't actually been filed yet do you do you put it on the Patriots. I guess I'm asking you if this is out there somewhere and the civil suit hasn't been filed. Do you put it on the Patriots. It is their responsibility to find the woman and talk to her if they get had a whiff of this because fifteen years ago that is not something that was the patriots responsibility but since the NFL has taken on itself the the idea of being the morals morals police as well. I don't know whether you put that responsibility on them or not. I could see a situation where they ask about this and they said what's going on here and he says she's is tried to extort me in the past. This is an ongoing thing nothing ever comes of it and then maybe they say okay fine. This is just something that happens and will move on and now of a the civil lawsuit has been filed again. This is all just conjecture but they in a vacuum they might have known a of some civil suit and but the details and the tax ax messages regardless of how good security team is they probably don't know about that and now this is playing out in public. I don't think that the lawyers for her for the alleged victim are going to the Patriots with an information. Why would you you go to the Patriots with that. Information or the raiders are the steelers what ends up happening is you run the risk of those those teams that are using their power against you to never get it in public yet now. What you have is a lot of naysayers saying well. There's the timing and what I would say is while there's a lot of people that are not familiar with this. Imagine fewer victim of something like that. Antonio Brown has absolutely absolutely dominated the news stream their people that they're victims that try to put these things behind them all of a sudden some splattered through the news stream and then your mind just starts arch going back to those those points of the allegations and I think the timing of well a lot of people dismiss it. There's a rational explanation for the lawyers lawyers. I would say that the lawyers are always looking for wherever and whenever they can put on a rape Defense WanNa one and she wants money. She wants attention. She wants fame I don't think there is a path that lawyers are more likely to go to in fact they've already started. They've already we started. This is why so many women don't come forward with this stuff because they've already started the initial statement to say look this woman's a gold digger and there's been a gold digger for a long time that she's they start now smearing her back there smearing somebody's taking up failed businesses all all the stuff you mean to dig up so that you can start the reverse smear campaign. It's it's an ugly ugly business. You're watching it happen now. In pop culture with a book that just came out with the New York Times and the Weinstein's that makes you wince and cringe how powerful organizations can make some of this stuff go away and how they can influence influence and how they can bury women and the the the lawyers and some of the people involved with the defending of Weinstein over the year years ears are having to apologize for their actions like this is the reason women don't come forward because it's not it's now the fame of Antonio Brown the power and the money come to bear as the Patriots also want to protect this investment that they have an it's just this woman going up against the entire machine and if she's his if she's eighty percent right they will find the twenty percents that makes it look like the eighty percent isn't right and if eighty percent accurate on on how it is her depictions of things are man. This stuff is complicated why the NFL should never gotten involved with the trying to police of this stuff because they lose they loot every time the league gets mayor. The players get smeared. It ain't ever anything good for the League and you've got a woman in the shadows that nobody knows coming coming out into the light with something that feels horrific invulnerable to her and now she's got to endure as maybe maybe just one hundred percent of a victim more victim stu gods here after hearing me talk about butcher box for months if you haven't taken advantage of their amazing offers. You need to listen up every month. Put your box delivers you mainly raise one hundred percent grass-fed beef free range organic chicken heritage bread pork and wild caught. 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You Sound surprised by that because it's been hard times daddy it's been hard times but the biggest star in the world is linked to a sporting team down here and there seems to be fired where the smoke is but we'll get to that in a second because we have big breaking news and it's important to the local our one of our favorite callers. Hefei is are sort of Disneyworld correspondent and there was just delivered to me. The News that club cool close billy yeah club cool for those of you who don't know we talked about with half in the past is like the the coke around the world tasting station. Epcot Center and they closed this past weekend. I think I don't even know that. Hefei knows I mean I'm assuming he knows because he's there a lot but this is not why he called Hefei. You're on the air model almost on I look forward to how you start a call every week. Dude actually I think really hard about what Spanish word I'm GonNa say and I'm almost running out of mcabe Larry so you're going to hear some repeat coming up and let's get into it. You want me to talk about club. Coolio may talk about what I came here to talk much about club call to be honest with you knew so much about club cool just a couple of weeks ago. Did you know that it was closing yeah. I knew only because when you guys brought brought it up I checked the wikipedia page and it said it was closing on September fifth or September ninth or something like that so i. I knew that there was only like a couple more chances to check it out. I swung by last week when I was at Epcot and you know it was. It was pretty cool. Check it out but yeah unfortunately it's closing. I think they're moving the coke products elsewhere throughout the parks but I'm not exactly sure where they're putting them but yeah. I think it's a sad day but it's you know it's opening up new Horizon Clark all right. Let's talk about what you wanted to talk about. Hefei six so I got two things as usual. I got a take about when someone is opening the door for you and then I got a question about saying hi to people. What do you guys want to start with. Open the door okay so let's say you're walking into a building it could be your office could be a starbucks and your outlay. Whatever and you're behind a person who's walking in front of you. They think they're going to be polite right. They go to hold the door open but if I'm more than seven steps away. I don't want you hold the door for me because then I got to do that thing where I do that awkward kind of jog talking about that little jog moves. We've all been there yeah. It sucks honestly like opening a door. Isn't that hard so if you just close the door. I'm not gonNA think you're rude. You're actually doing the savior because you're saving me a little bit of like breath because I don't have to run and all open the door myself so conversely that also goes for when I'm opening the door for someone if they're more than seven steps away from me. I'm just going to spare for them. The the hassle and I'm GONNA keep walking. Go about my day and you know nothing's GonNa Change so happy. Seven step rule is something. I think everyone should live by but if you're doing. There's a restaurant. That's means that the person's going in is going to get to the line before the person holding the door so you get the line faster good point. I point point good point so you're yeah. I think that also the little shuffle that you do is awkward but it also causes you to sing. Thank you because you have such a long distance to say. Thank thank you for holding a door. It's like Oh thank you can get to extend it because there's like awkward time. How are you arriving at seven steps as opposed to six eight ten. Like where are you. Did it in the studio. Seven is a bit short. I think ten is closer. I mean also I have longer steps than other people so I guess it depends right. It's different if you saying bolt also is waiting for a door strides absolutely matter. I think seven is is my rule for when I'm walking like if I'm seven steps away from the door just GonNa give you that little wave and be like go ahead no worries. Maybe I'll pretend I'm on my phone so I don't have to run but you know I. I guess you guys could be right when you're the the one holding the door. Maybe you give them that. Ten step grace period and then they can decide if they WANNA wave you offer not but I feel like more people need to realize that opening a door. Isn't that hard like you just frigging open it. You know what I mean. It's not like ten thousand pound door. You just open it. You Walk and you go about Your Day to Roy's point though if you're at a restaurant or somewhere where art I want to hold this door for you but I wanna be here before you. You do the thing where you walk in and you're fully in and you hold the door so it's like look come and grab this door so I can continue attend you moving but you still have to grab the door whereas if you're not in a hurry you do the thing where you pull the door and you- you're behind the door and you allow them in. I write whenever there's a queue you establish your place in line while holding the door open for the other person but it's a nonverbal thing. They understand that your first in line. You guys had this thing at restaurants. Were you arrive at the same time as someone and you want to be very subtle about how you're trying to walk faster than them to get ahead of them in to the hostess stand so it's like you can't be obvious about it. You can't start shuffling but you have to just look act like you're talking to your wife but start walking really fast. It's like the NFL. It's all about angles that you take you have to be efficient with Eh. I love the idea of talking to your wife. Creswell sprinting next to both of you sprinting next to each other thinking you're subtle. What's the second question heavy so my second question is when you're talking to your buddy or whatever and they say yo. Tell Dan I say higher. Tell whoever I say hi. How often are you. You actually going to deliver that message. And how often are you not going to deliver that message. Never I've got a better person. I've got one for you though I've got one for you. Do you know that the single thing that I hear the most is tell poppy said hi just random person like driving past asked me and I'd be like Okay Guy Redcar. I'll tell him in to your credit you do every time every time they highly questionable symbol you go through a list of at least seventeen people and there was this dude at Publix that was at the checkout and he told me to tell you hi. There was a guy in the red car that told me to tell you say by the guy at the brothel guy. There was the guy at the crack. Dan owned dealer and says your light this week. how how do you handle it so my take is if I'm personally with the person and someone's like Oh you're with Justin Justin. I say hi I'll be like Joe. Justin was Asia's high right but if I'm not with that person and it's something that after a member there's absolutely no way that that message is getting to you and I'll crawley. I won't be honest about it. I'll be like yeah sure deliver the message but you know that that's that's staying with me. I'm not I'm not passing that message along unless that person's name comes up in conversation I'll be like Oh dude. I was talking to Jose the other day. He's home to tell you he said I just realized that I did this over the weekend without like so it was Dan's dad's birthday parties birthday this weekend and his mom had texts me a couple days before because ever since I said the thing about all trees look alike. I'll share this with you know the audience. Dan's mom every every two or three days. We'll send me a picture of different looking tree to prove to me that all trees that look alike so I'm constantly getting pictures of trees sent to me by Dan's mom so I responded to her. As Oh tell poppy that I say happy birthday because it was his birthday and now I realized that I put her in a spot where like if he wasn't around does she wait eight and then say oh billy said happy birthday and then if that's the case like what did she say okay. Tell Them I say thank you so. I didn't realize this but I'm not going to text directly because I you know I don't want to bother him. You should sean someone's birthday. You should attack. I think this is a millennial thing like I think Dan's mom hundred percent actually that message for sure whereas us today. We're just like yeah but now I realize that I may have put her in an uncomfortable spot now obviously delivering happy birthday messages. Someone should never be uncomfortable but you know like what if you know bobby did something and he was was angry and then she's like well. You know we're fighting right now but at least said happy birthday so I'm going to have to do it. I think happy birthday is different than high though that's like like something that I think you should probably pass along because that's that's important highs. Whatever all right as always it's been a pleasure dude appreciate it by the way tell poppy essay excited about today's local hours still got a lot of really good calls on the board from the topic bar that I see we. We have the sports story that I'll I'll just sort of get into right now. I don't know if you guys have seen. The reports got injured out for the season. I wanted to talk to you about that too. That was a real bummer and you know what it's cool. The Z. Marlins twitter local sports fans down here be really sad about that Christian Yelich no one's rooting against them everyone had liked the dude from his time here in south Florida and even though he tried to force his way out of the Miami marlins organization none of that really stuck to him and he's still sort of beloved yeah he's. He's a likable guy. He's someone that down here we watched grow up unfortunately we didn't see him become the MVP that he became in Milwaukee but it's not fun to see someone get injured and missed the remainder of the season especially when he's in the middle of what could could be a second. MVP sees and now this is interesting about the interesting thing we should say fractured his kneecap found the ball off of his his own cabinet fractured and he's out for the rest is the season here's the interesting thing about the MVP race so there's three weeks left in the season. Give or take right so it's it's strange because you're kind of wondering alright well. There's three weeks left in the season his numbers now wa- not get any better. He's done for the year so this should hinder his. MVP campaign pain right but if his team falls off completely without him does that make his case stronger. I mean it's all up to the voters. I would think if I was a voter. I'd go with the person that has the better numbers to get their team into the postseason but if his team completely falls off you could see how valuable he actually is to the team so I would think that may get him some more votes but I don't think it's going to be enough to get probably gets now right yeah yeah I would say the dodgers are ridiculous running away with it though so I don't know the brewers right now our game out of the second wildcard spot just so they're in contention for the play offs now again if they completely fall out of it like within a week or two is that something that will hinder or help his case for MVP. I know you mentioned. It was a fractured kneecap. Yeah what a fluke injury obviously obviously guys often wear stuff on their shins and their feet because that's common this was. I mean it was a sick pitch by the Hernandez guy the slider I mean I think that had to do with the angle of the pitch it happening down here. It happened against the Miami Marlins his former team mate head it just it wasn't like it was like oh directly off his persona so painful. I know what I mean. It's so rare you see a lot of foul balls off the body but it never is the angle for its directly onto the KNEECAP. I I don't know if I've ever heard a fractured kneecap he can. I've seen people who have the takeaway well. He's a bony slender kid. I'm like no one has muscle on their kneecap dog like that that hurts. Have you guys seen the reports sports. Oh sorry fix it a fractured kneecap like what is again 'cause you don't play Canary. I don't think that you put a cast over your kneecap you do so your leg doesn't move how down has a fractured elbows people like they have it stationary for awhile you need the bones actually they come back together and then slowly but surely rebuild with very slight mobility. Have you guys ever worried about hurting your kneecap. Oh shouldn't surprise you. I've I've been afraid that I broke my kneecap interesting adding having a two year old obviously doesn't crawl anymore because she's up and running she they can crawl like crazy and as a pair you. WanNa get down on your knees. She's almost do but when do you start walking. Should she. Walking shoes walk. That's why so nice. She runs. That's my point. Is that like you know. She's still every once in a while. We'll crawl around but like months back when she was only Crawley Raleigh. I like you know as a parent you. WanNa get on your knees and crawl with her. Do these kids have some. They don't have like the feeling in their knees. Adults you right now if you got on all fours and tried to crawl around the hurts. It's painful thing for your knees yeah. I'm telling you raise. Its don't have the feeling that they can like sprint. Crawl bones are also soft yeah but it has I'm jealous. I see her crawling and she can do without pain and I try to do it because it looks fun. It's very painful. It has to be horrifying at least at the beginning. I mean I'm sure now you guys. Don't think it's a big deal at all when your baby cries but like baby can't speak like I see sometimes babies like infants with glasses like how do you know that baby can't see like how is that communicated like if a baby gets hurt and they break their knee or something. How do you know that that's what's going on and notches the baby poop themselves a constant airing. I think I think and as as you get to know the baby there's different cries so there's no the I broke my eyes cries when they want something and then there's cries when it looks like they're in pain like you could just tell by the cry explained that I have no idea what you're talking about. You could tell it your baby is thing by the way your baby is crying example of an hundred crimes. I'm just saying there's a different just cried like I. I didn't know what it meant. They will just crying. Maybe I'm using the context clues of every situation but there are times where she's just sitting in her high chair and she wants the milk. It's not time for milk yet and she's blabbering and there's times where she falls down and she gets hundred holding her hand crying and it's just a different crowd. I don't know maybe I don't know I don't I know because I had knee surgery when I was in seventh grade right and the reason I had knee surgeries because I had an extra bone chip like on my knee. It almost looks like a hook right and the doctor doctor that I went to see that discovered it through an X-ray because I had an extra bump on my Nia was like it was weird looking and they said what probably happened. was you broke your knee when you were younger and it just healed itself so now. I'm wondering was I crying as a baby and parents didn't know and they're like he's just hungry. You're hungry. That's what I'm saying. So what are the different Christ sound like like. Give me an example of what your baby sounds like. She's hungry because I'm not certain. The crowds are different. I just think situations are different. Feel like the Christ. You're just assuming you're babies. Baby baby pooped itself because that's what babies back me up on. This price sound like I want to hear a beep no no. I'm not saying that you'll be backing me up on. I'm not saying that you're wrong but when you're hot texts clues right when the baby sitting the High Chair and she's crying or he's crying it's probably because he or she is hungry so you know that because we're sitting in the high chair where she holds her hand up ads and is crying. You would assume that her hands hurt their time. Cry just different motions. That's Tom. There's times when you can tell the kids I mean I guess you're right because obviously she didn't just fall so I know that she's just turning on this guy. There's Times where they can turn it on man these kids right but you want examples of the cries bill yeah. I'd like to hear what the different cries sound like if possible. Roy Guests is gonNA give us now a demonstration of crying. I'm not giving you free attention. Christ food cries for pain you know the difference is obviously a difference but I know about that. The ultra grapevine baby cries. You know your kid but if your baby crawls into something it starts. It's crying right. Just it's the same cry. You just know why they're crying yeah. What if you're turned around when your baby fell and turn back around like Oh that's the that's the hungry cry right right now and it's like no the baby fell and you just missed it well. It's a hold on give us those three cries again for attention. Let's Chris you sound like what does that sound like. I am not playing mimic. Decide you see the cry and you can tell now there are times when she's crying. Let her go because she's just crying because she wants. You know a you. You know something that I don't want to give her. I don't know what this is like without the exam. That's what I'm saying. It's paw like it's very easy to say. I know the difference between the three cries and I'm going to come out and say say I don't know the difference. I'm not experienced. I don't know what they sound like. So if I'm going to have a drought in the future I'd like to know what the cries sound like so I think demonstration from two experts here might help with that. What a cry for pain free easy thing the one initial cry. What does that sound like. We need to hear the crime. There's an initial burst. This is not a real conversation anymore. Yeah just want us to make crying knowing your game. If you are serious what the hungry cried sounds like here's what the woman they hurt their toe guys happy dinosaur noise babies. Christ right. I don't believe it the cry for pain the initial one cry long get inhale. Okay Min- the pain that kick in but then you need the big inhale. You're out here. Asking for example is so how does that differ from the other cries is what I'm asking a cry cry for attention more like a whimper and yeah and the cry but here's the thing and been those are. Those are only three situations that you're familiar with. What's the broken knee. Christ sound like that can't be the I am hungry Chri CA. We don't really know when someone's hurting I think you know I think you know the sound. messy is coming in Miami. Oh God that's the story so this comes from reports from Barcelona and this is irrefutable. SC has a provision in his contract that in the summer of twenty twenty one he could leave leave on a free transfer anywhere anywhere now. He's thirty two years old right now. Still playing at a high level. Barcelona's Dr Sologne is offered him a lifetime contract. He has said in the media several times that he doesn't WanNa play for any other teams in Europe. Although many players have said that and ended up playing for other teams in Europe there have been reports that David Beckham has been in contact with messy throwing out crazy money offers and that in Miami is obviously obviously interested in messy now. I have done some talking around town. Oh Wow before. This report even came out. I'm talking months ago. There is the thought around owned that club that they have a very real shot at messy a couple seasons into this project now everyone's looking at the summer of twenty twenty one because he can leave on a free transfer because obviously if messy hits an open market inter. Miami is not going to be able to compete with the likes of Hell. Even China like Chinese clubs that have visa astonishing transfer budgets. He's going to the only way messy comes. Here is obviously for bigger money. MLS has ever seen for a player goes it goes without saying and the fact that he wants to be in America which we've seen in the past are reports that he wants to be down here and also Emma's has this bizarre sponsorship partnership ship with Adidas Who Messy is the biggest athlete that has ever been sponsored by Dita's so they can make up some of the money there too so this would be a business opportunity for messy. All tell you is the facts of the story he can leave on a free transfer which is optimal for team like Inter Miami. Beckham has been in constant contact with them. Messy was part of that premier video that into Miami put out when they announced their brand and and there is some sort of mutual interest already comic hold on a second years from now is he gonNA WANNA leave. You've playing wherever he's playing celona Barcelona to play in the Minor League stadium in Fort Lauderdale well. There's not going to be a stadium. Fort Lauderdale Fort Lauderdale's tails obviously a big part of this equation. I can't possibly answer that question. I do know that that the only team that's ever really been linked with messy in sort of. MLS OX has been this Miami Project but Yeah Fort Lauderdale when you put it that way leaving Barcelona in the Camp Nou for Lockhart Stadium seems a bit odd but at that age this is something different with his career possibly does he have this every year or just just in two thousand twenty one but two thousand twenty one is the only year in his contract and I don't know how much longer is left on that contract. It's not a lifetime deal but he has a provision in his is contract would look it up twenty twenty one he can leave on a free transfer okay but if the stadiums not building twenty twenty one and it's going to be ready in twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three does. Hispanic dispel doubt then the well. That's the only opportunities thirty three thirty four years old at that point yeah but you're GONNA get him at thirty three thirty four thirty eighty five. You're not going to get them now. When you say free transfer does that mean he gets to choose where he goes yeah like houses. It's agent yeah so usually a team seemed like a team that bids the most the team gets so if he can leave on a free transfer normally if they don't have a free transfer. The club and the player have to agree to terms. If it's a free transfer the club have have no say in where he can go so it's really the player that's coming just two financial terms how much money the team gets for him. No no it's a free transfer. The club hasn't got any money yeah. Why would they ever agree to that just to get him to sign more like because he had to leverage average when he hit an open market or his contract was expiring. You very rarely see a player just hit an open market and become a free agent unless they're much older in their career. Event is actually does a really good job of with their business. Getting players on free transfers and expiring appeals their their Club knows how to leverage certain agents say hey never renegotiate but you rarely ever see a player reach an expiring deal just because a club likes recoup some of the money on some of these things even if they're excited yeah. It's cool buzz does that mean soccer is alive. If messy comes to somewhere close to your house eh soccer's Ed. We're getting them at the age of thirty four. I mean yes this. Brad car right at ours locker from my house. I mean a lot closer. No Sir Than Freedom Park would be. I guess that wasn't going to be called. I think so yeah to put this in perspective. Say Messy ever won anything yes plenty what name it Champions League World Cup no. He hasn't won the super. Both you're being. I just want to know what we could have said about this. Inter Miami the team that would have had you guys like billions guys say this. I can't do better than messy at thirty four by the way he's locked on is dominating. MLS MLS and he's thirty seven years saying Michael Jordan wants to come here years but it's also saying like Michael. Jordan wants to come to the heat today like well. Why would he come to the heat today. The same thing brought up on saying Lebron. James wants to come to the today in Lebron James. I believe is approaching thirty four so discounting the fact that there's no Oh stadium and there's no incentive for him to play in Fort Lauderdale like what's going on with the soil. When is this going to be done like these. Are reasonable questions assume oh no. Hey maybe maybe the best player in soccer might think this isn't optimal for me to come to the MLS when they can't figure out there's too messy agreed to come here that Lockhart would be so many people would be willing to travel to fill it up. Hold on hold on. It's not gonNA fill up anyway just because soccer's that they've done really well in terms terms of season ticket sales without any sort of infrastructure just yet. Here's what I will say. I understand where billy is coming from being dismissive missive Lockhart Stadium and why would he come to be in Fort Lauderdale. We don't know Jack. Shit about what that experience is going to be. It's not even built yet. We don't know what I understand understand that and you can have conversations and I'm sure if they're talking about any sort of future. They're giving him bloop a blueprint and and more details and we even even have outside of a three d graphic and probably freedom park as a part of that. It's probably more of a business play than anything else. I don't really think the stadium really matters as long as it's branded Inter Miami and he gets do business things here stateside through Adidas and getting to pick his club of choice down here in MLS. I think that's that's what's most important. It's really theater of the mind I mean. I just wonder if he's the best in the world why he'd come to an LS now when the stadium situation isn't done when he can do it later on like MLS will always be an option twenty-one not to it's twenty twenty one twenty twenty one. There's obviously going to be more details we would hope on Freedom Park and by then naturally. There's going to be an existing stadium in Fort Lauderdale. Even though it's I think I wonder how much of the stadium is being built off-site actually because if you're looking at yeah yeah but saying like we're four months away from twenty twenty stadiums don't take a year to build and they haven't even broken ground. Actually that's not true. MLS There's examples in Vancouver where stadiums were built offsite and imported in there were turned around within nine months. You'd think the stadium next to the airport will be built in nine. I'm not talking ever goes. I'm sorry I'm talking. Strictly Lock Arts they all but I'm saying if the plan the big the future is mls in Miami and the stadium. They haven't been broken ground yet right. That's so four months away. There's there's a soil xactly yeah. You're wondering why messy would WANNA come to. I'm wondering wondering why he'd want to come here with that. Being a situation that's debut. Here's about the market and you're acting like if they're playing in Fort. Lauderdale still not Miami like macy's not making money in Miami Massey's an international star. You don't think that he's making money in the US right now what matters I really think were you in particular is over blowing the idea of like freedom park being this massive draw compared to Fort Lauderdale. He's going to live wherever I know but why would you WanNa play in Fort Lauderdale in a smaller stadium as opposed to Barcelona with a big team in a bigger brand yeah but that's GonNa be that he's GonNa. He's GonNa have that drop off regardless where wherever he goes in MLS. It's like you say why would he want to do that. I don't know I don't know is saying this is the biggest drop off in terms of you're going from Barcelona to a stadium. That's really not your stadium but if you look look at all bunch of players like Beckham did it and now he can do this when it's set up is what I'm saying he doesn't need to do it. At thirty. Three Freedom Freedom even park isn't going to be this hundred thousand seat stadium. It's not even going to be comparable. The camp no like an inner. Miami yeah if he wants anything comparable honestly he should go to Atlanta united which plays the Falcons play and they get like sixty thousand people a game and it's on across the world in terms of club attendance. Atlan united is top ten across the world if people four and like the actual state of the art facility matter to him. I'd say go there. Why come to Fort Lauderdale playing Fort Lauderdale because it's branded in Miami now South American superstar. Why do it now now when he can do it when it's already set up and he doesn't have to go through all this stuff you guys. WanNa still be decent. Doesn't WANNA forty but wait a minute. He's GonNa WanNa get if you wanted to do this for money and business go to China because they'll throw all kinds of money at him with not China which is a lot different than south Florida okay but I'm saying MLS Miami. We'll always be option for messy will and not always okay even when he's like forty five so why would he do it at thirty three versus when he could do it at thirty seven when everything's already set out everything right because it's a great point. Barcelona is a bigger brand worldwide inner. Miami will be yes or no yes messy. Messy himself is a bigger brand than MLS. So why would he do it. At thirty wants to create his own lane in the belly saying there might be a few more stops before he exotic on down here look obviously obviously if he comes here. I'll get a few more intriguing stops along the way it's great it is great for Miami is great for MLS. It would be incredible. I'm just saying logically. Why would he do it with somebody. The mayor no the money that's being offered to him. It's reportedly big money. Money might be a draw marketing opportunities the fact that he actually just wants to be in south. Florida relationship with Beckham Plan right relationship with Beckham whose Adidas second-biggest athlete behind him and he's realizing I'm messy. I can create my own lane and you know how every guy comes over now wants to play in the galaxy because that's what Beckham did. He's starting then he's like. I want to go to a new team and start my own path and go to and build this team from the ground up and now hopefully he's thinking once. I go to Miami now. Maybe other people. I don't know why he wants to do it. In the summer of two thousand twenty one caney negotiate other free transfers and his contract because he has leverage bridge absolutely I can't speak to the motivation would billie is saying is the rational play. Wait till I can actually play in Miami and I'm still playing at a high level in which I'm considered a top five player in the world why not I can't speak to what is being put in front of him and what his motivations are but these are the reports coming out of reputable places in Barcelona that they're at least in conversations uh-huh and he's not really linked to any other clubs. Is that the norm though in soccer's lots on plane that well the age of thirty seven is that norm. There's nothing normal about slot on at at all in terms of blame welcome. MLS is not as good Lord tell you you will find this good if he played in the premier league whereas it's the same with messy like if messy comes here with dominant yeah zooming he dominated mls when he's thirty six years old yeah messy so dominating. Lita at his age right now so people people are aging we see in tennis all the time the elite soccer players are aging much better than they used to and MLS has a lot of Roddy Keane scored at a very a high level for La Galaxy well into his mid to late thirties so I I think Messi being the best talent single talent ever come into that league at the height Lonzo very nice player and that is absolute best. He was considered. Maybe top five in the world. There's a gulf between one and between the top two as we know and everybody else I think Messi would be spectacular ornelas obviously and you could probably be spectacular into his forties which actually to Billy's point is why not do it then to which I can't answer sir or maybe he will. That's exciting for Miami the fact that he might come here sooner. It's exciting for Miami. You're in these conversations but I I we're getting to the point where are a lot of people might take the stand said I think billy's just sort of there's a lot of talk and bluster. They don't have a stadium. There's poisonous soil at their at their stadium site there. They don't actually have a stadium. It might be prefab construction. Who knows the playing in Fort Lauderdale. There have been a lot of very public losses and just a lot of this BS. Es which is Louis Warez is interested ooh mess. He's interested. Who are they going to get Cavani or not and that's really all you have you have to put your faith and Beckham has a brand the relationships with Adidas and the fact that you live in one of the more beautiful places in the world. It's a messy aw I know we. WanNa get some callers here but I just want to get this report by Armando Saga about the dolphins when they drafted Minka last year you know I I don. I forget who was like nine. Eleven in that range reportedly Stephen Ross wanted to trade back and potentially get Lamar Jackson and Chris Greer said at the time he told Ross he was Chris Geer said I'm picking Fitzpatrick and if the owner wanted to fire him then he can fire him he told Ross I'm taking fitzpatrick and you can fire me. If you want to fire me really saying they could've traded up to get him also like their second round. Pick didn't eagle thirtieth or something I think like the last so the very end of the first strategy could've traded and got and both of them if they wanted to pick Minka then traded back and then gotten him at the end of the first round. Can you just turn around and like on a delay say okay. I'll fire are you now struggled to get onto the field of what Lamar Jackson Wakes up at number eleven that dre yeah. I just found it interesting because now the reports from this year's draft that greer was kind of giving way to floor is and kind of like you know being a team player saying you know more of a group conversation as as opposed to making it himself but then last year it just found it interesting that greer. It's like totally one eighty. Turn from all you can fire me. I'm taking me to anyone you want Florida's before we get get into college. I'm curious what you think what you guys think of what's happening with Minkah Fitzpatrick. He thought he played pretty well. Last year. He was a sure tackler was proved himself to be versatile and you saw that this this guy had potential and something happened camp with the new regime in which they realize or at least the thought is they realized this guy's not really good at anything. Yeah I mean I mean like last year. It was a strength that he could play anywhere on defense and now the reports are essence. He he plays everywhere okay. He's not really great anywhere and who knows man. It's early in this season. He looked bad on that one deep ball but he was going into one of the fastest dudes. They all look bad man yeah but that Brown dude is one of the fastest dudes in the league so it's like I mean who knows I guess. We'll figure it out with him. Did anyone overreacting and take them in fantasy because I put him on watchlist who how Hollywood Brown well. I think I have is available. It was the guy that people would nuts. We've got thirty side that Guy John Ross right John Ross. I saw up there. Eh I saw in a couple of my leaves bottom bill fast guys number two running back behind Gurley was available on a couple of leagues. I picked the wrong one on the rams rookie draft taking the carries them touchdowns last week. Brown right Yeah Yeah Malcolm Brown. Yes I've picked up REX burkhead. He's available at that's another one but way too much money on them but he's buying the dolphins this wing figure in two touchdowns at the very lazy to last week. Patriots Defense Pence also available a couple of weeks. I got the niners today that I absolutely on that sustainable do you now. I want to try. It's called show and tell if you guys would I would like to participate show and tell all right guys. I just gotTa my bag an advertisement that I got in the mail. It's for North America's number one selling failing walk in Tub and they have a celebrity pitchman. Who Do you think the celebrity pitchman is for first off North America's number one selling walk into so. Is this a shower. The walk is North America's number one selling walk into with an athlete endorser okay so I'm GonNa say this is probably geared towards older people people I'm going to say Joe Name Tommy Tub reveal who a good one. It's terrible. It's a perfect Tapie Smith. Oh Wow toby's miss I have until the end the second bit idiot perfect orser. It's the perfect person to endorse this and it also got me thinking who would be today's endorser in the future like what athlete today would be the one that forty years years from now would be pitching the North America's number one top selling walk in Tub. Do you guys want to just know who I guess no okay it is Surrey's on Brad Terry Bradshaw Ferguson for North America's number one selling walk into which I'm assuming is very expensive because there's no price on here which is usually a sign that something is very expensive. Isn't this just a shower. No it's not look at you know it's basically it's a shower but it has like waist-high describing because nobody can see this because we're doing this not on TV. It has waist high a wall and a door that opens up up and then you sit down in the portion and then that fills up with water. I don't know how they figure this out but that fills up with water and you can also get showered so it's for. I guess older people that can't stand standup Yup in the shower. WanNa sit but they can't go all the way down and there's a handle on it right. I mean the doors you don't you don't hop it. No no no it's. It's the little baby step that you get in. It's basically like you know I was so close in age in quarterback benching quarterback. I want one of those right. I feel like it's going to be like twenty thousand dollars. It looks like the water can go up to your shoulder yeah. That's that's the thing it's basically a tub. Now your water bills probably super high when you get one of these things right because it's basically twice the height of would a normal tub would be. I don't mean to sound like Silky at any point here but water bills. How can it be like. I've had like an expensive month and it goes up to drive you crazy but it sort of stays consistent ten years saying you know what you're a much better bigger house. I guess my my water bill like if it fluctuates fluctuates like two bucks tonight that fifty dollar range every three months fifty bucks which by the way becoming an adult and realizing that you don't pay water bill monthly. I was like Whoa Whoa they Denver told me this my alone in that or do your water bills fluctuate obviously obviously so does mine stays pool. I do have a couple of dollars to all right so if you have a pool you can anticipate it being a lot. I feel like we shouldn't be paying for water order. Be Honest with you. Okay water. I mean you'll like it should be for free but how much how much does your water bill because your pool it just the thousand dollars it's not. It's a lot of money. It's too much money. I'll tell you fifty bucks. I love my fluctuates a lot man. It really does like like a couple of hundred dollars lers like I'll let me give him up. It does because sometimes we'll just turn the pool off for the month right like the kids are away a little just turn it off so this is me not having a pool and being naive about at this. I didn't know that a pool means that much your water. I'm wondering why doesn't the pool just kind of rotate the same water over and over again yeah but we don't but if you turn it off it's not using it's not using as much water pumps into the pool so we're not using water is it. I think it's Bob new water. You need to turn water in their interesting. Trust me your body will thank you. That's Terry Bradshaw House quote on the the walk in so who is the Modern Day Guy Athlete that will be endorsing that you know thirty thirty years from now Dwight Howard. That's a pretty good drew brees. Maybe I feel like I don't know why in terms of body type and Rothlisberger has type but he's not someone that I see along along someone that you like not that he's unlikable but I don't see him being like the sweetheart down the road but look George Foreman wasn't loved at his time right now he started selling Jon congruent could be or was it law until the grill. That's what I'm saying so wow. That's another question who someone that's dislike now that it's going to take a turn at like old age and you're like. I love that we've already seen it to kneel. Medvedev Birdie turn you think money mayweather will have a turn off off and considering the news I think Antonio Brown might have been in the conversation but we can write that one off to is Teo having a turn right now he he is. I think a lot of people although I thought Odell Beckham was going to make this turn by simply not being in Tonio Brown and realizing the things that we got mad at him are ridiculous and now that he's on my team. I just realized we just do this without l. Beckham Duquesne wear a watch without being like a huge negative story. Don't really understand that I mean I love how he's making. People are coming after I I know wearing a two hundred thousand dollar. Watch people like like you catch be swinging stuff around like sick. It's not plastic that watches I know. He said that's plastic. There's no way if you're paying looks plan one hundred thousand dollars for watch me to plastic urine idiot de want something expensive inside a two hundred thousand dollar watch. I want the finest witnessed of metal. It is if you look inside. It looks very complex and expensive. I imagine it's like Rolex which it doesn't need a battery. I don't know about this particular. Taylor brand. I'm learning about it speaks his ability to be swiped. Friends does not need batteries because they charge up emotion really yeah now. How's he put it down for like if you put it down for like seventy two hours you're going to need a pump it to make sure or you can get a hold or if you're if you're big watch collector and you have a wad in your collection? Can you can buy these these cases that will actually rotate the watch occasionally my Lord to charge it back up again. That's part of why rolexes are so expensive. What does that mean. They don't on a bit no like it'll be the case. Oh pump it. Yeah like you have a like you. pull the pin out and you can pump it like a basketball sort. I like that yeah where you just like charged up a reserve so you priming your watch. Why do you know so much about watch. Watch say this job of a Rolex Rolex. Now okay okay. I say this half jokingly but what if Odell Beckham Junior was going for a stiff arm and he like Mrs on the I would always be checking the state of of my watch. I don't care how much money I have made. How much money making if I have a two hundred thousand Dollar Watch on Chris. I think this is where you were headed. I would catch a ball and be like Whoa is the watch scratched. If AH THOUSAND DOLLAR WATCH HAVE IT in a safety deposit box also like the reports were that it was like two hundred thousand dollars and two hundred and fifty I saw and I think the most this recent thing because the company came on spoke on it. It's a hundred and thirty nine thousand. That's it the tall distraction but but he but the thing is like we're making this big deal about Beckham realize how small time he comes off like compared to the dolls who who's out there with an eight hundred thousand dollar watch same brand by the way different model Auteuil obviously but Nidal's out here like big time in all of you and no one talks but it has to do with like it's a it's a safety. It's ridiculous Gladys Edis. NFL's now like that's only two hundred thousand dollars. You can't wear that fifty hazard. It's a plastic watch due to have training dolls on the side of a court by himself. He's swinging swing a racket. He can't hurt anyone with the why you're playing in small spaces trying to tackle me and I have a watch on. I try to stiff army. Would if I miss your shoulder and I scrape you along the neck with right to happen. It could right and you. Gav Your wrist broken tax and then I dropped the ball because I'm more concerned about the watch ran the football and if the book was pops the ball concerned about fumble the interesting thing is everyone just assumed this was an endorsement thing. Odell Beckham said I'm just a customer. Watch yeah by the week which we do you guys think start getting tired of a backup junior and I just love Ha- L. Dell's man the league will leave me alone. It's like dude. You're wearing a half a million dollar. Watching what are you talking about. You're saying look at me. Yeah what's happening though wearing something for ten minutes saying. Why is everyone paying attention. He wants the League to bother him. I'm totally with Chris US asking for this trip like no mass wears a watch wall playing football one person Reggie Roby Uber Expensive Watch while playing Reggie Robie people notice and then he's talking about this. I wonder WHO's a cool little poor Jay cool ooh it looks cool but when the League says hey we can't do that like that's what it makes sense. Do you say that and say you know what what doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to me is like like in the NBA did this with the the Ninja band which Pablo correctly took exception to that because that's not an interest style right I they. They say it's a safety issue. I'LL CBS safety issue. They're wearing helmets. The pads are harder than what's on. This wash like this is a dangerous. The sport is frigging dangerous. How is that more ordained what he's wearing on his wrist. How's that more dangerous than what someone's wearing on their head. Every day. What Ahead Bank and get loosen covey is well? Now you blind that was way. NBA Ninja band or like it's too loose and it could someone can slip on it and tear their ACM like what what the people that wear this lousy waren it because he's a taste pacemaker. He's an influence. It's the same reason why he wears different cleats in pre-game. He's like look good play good. I gotTA drip. Why but you have to wear cleats the play football. You don't need to wear a watch yeah. I think it's cool. I feel like you can't be a taker and influence or if you're wearing things that nobody can buy like if he's going out there. The watch the city bought at Walmart. That's readily available to the masses and it's like wow look o b j bought this watch and I WANNA wear it. I can do that now. Oh people just getting people can buy that. I guarantee you look doc. Thousand Dollar Watches doll alone. I mean the only one we know goodbye. That is Dan. I saw lake on. I watch is our incredible investments because you got the right watch not only retain. It's value. They often appreciate in their value so it's like the next time you want to get a watch. You just sort of take off. Your watch handed over to them. End Switch watches especially if you have the right watch and you invested properly so it's actually actually a pretty smart investment. I don't think that watch companies are taking watches. It Odell Beckham scratch playing football. Oh back can make a million dollars on that. Watch a game used used. Jamie is what I watch. I will say that nothing bigger has ever happened to this company than Odell Beckham doing it and they have arguably the greatest men's tennis player as an endorser endorser and you had no idea no idea. When did you become a watch expert. When I bought my watch and I've noticed notice that people only ask you about they they only compliment you on your watch to get a compliment in return very like It's like a secret society eighty because from the outside like nobody really knows about risk where I couldn't tell you what an expensive watch or it's a cheap watch outside of just a certain brand name but it's got its own little hive. Glad I'm not a part of it. Let's go out to calls. Wait hold on your time by the Magic Castle on line. Six has magic castle information which is like another secret society in woke him aboard. Hey guys what's going on. How you doing good morning good morning guys so yeah. I was GonNa tell Mike about the magic agit. Catholics like a serious thing. It really is because at a buddy who lives in. La is like a musician but he knows so inside. I had the magic castle. There's this room was like a magic piano and you tip and then it will play like any song you want so you. You know obviously if the guy sitting up there and my buddy knows that guy but like he wouldn't tell us this name or anything like that. He can't tell people he works there and stuff but he's the one who puts you to put us on the list and you have to like show up and like you get patted down and all this stuff. You have to suit up kind kind of thing. All of your names have to be on the list or they turn you away so I had to put together a suit last minute and apparently my Khakis or whatever I had going on 'cause. I'm not much of a guy had like a metal piece on there and he's like Oh man. I don't know about those pants and I said what and he's like. They've got a rivet on them or something and I said okay he's like. I don't think we can let you in you might have to change your Japan and so like he got on his walkie talkie and all this stuff and so he came back and he said well. It's GonNa work but you can't have your your hands in your pockets like at all. He's like we're going to be. We've got you kind of flagged and we're GONNA. Watch those he ever have your hands inside your pocket. Okay let me stop copy real quick obviously this this place is even more legit than I even suggested last week. It sounds like the most what are you talking about. This is the secret society the people who are influencers and trendsetters they go to the Magic Castle in Hollywood. That's just the truth. You can't be an influencer and it's a secret society. You can't share the secrets go there influencing people because anything that's going to so many backroom deals get magic castle. I'm telling you this is the place to the only by the elite of Hollywood it is true illuminated the magic castle whereas Mike Ryan this is person so we hold on what was going on inside the Magic Castle Secret Society well. It's a secret secret no here then. How do I know you've been there right exactly. they take your picture ashamed. They've got like a red carpet thing outside the Ron and like yeah they do yeah no go in and there's like five or six shows and it's in this old house and there's all these like secret passageways back back room like stairs and you go through everywhere and there's like three or four bars throughout the place and yeah you'll just post up and guys walk around and do magic or you can go to like specific shows but I know Chris was talking about how he likes shitty magic but it's like this is like you know that the mind stuff where they like you know like put a card in your pocket like they. It filled my guy that they filled a buddy of mine. They filled his wallet up with like fake cash kind of thing so it's like a close magic it looks. It looks pretty legit. I'm not sure if they're doing you know the rabbit out of the hat. I don't know it's supposed to the best. How did you get the best like. How did you get invited to this? Magic Castle Buddy of mine nine plays music in La and his buddy is the piano player at the Magic Castle. He plays that player piano kind of thing. Oh wait till because if someone playing the piano but you can't seem kind of thing but like you know what I mean. How much did it cost you to go to the Magic Castle. It costs like a hundred and forty bucks or something like that per person. Was it worth it. It's pretty cool I think I'm good deal. It's not a one time deal. Magic Changes Day to day. he just told. US Piano is played by his friend in another another room novelty. You're not supposed to know that it's like a novel to go in there and drank and pip and yeah you go there. Drink drink or see and be seen and see some of the best up-close magic you'll ever see in your entire life by some of the best doing these paid performers or this is just a hang our anyone can walk in and start doing magic. No no no these are paid guys like the top bill for when I was there with some guy who like made it to the finals of one of those talent shows or something like that forget which one is with the more he tells us the less. This sounds like a secret society social club in the more. It seems like a haunted house Allison Lake. I guess but yeah like you guys said you can be a member too. So there are people who who will go like three or four four times a week. I guess member. It's like an annual pass for Disneyworld but it's different. It's like the rides at Disney change every time and IAN is. I've never ever been there and I want to be there so bad but I don't think I have the means or or just like the celebrity to get you have a rolex. Perhaps I have to trade that in and even then even then but from what I gathered there's just like you're walking through the magic castle and then they'll just be this dude dude in some threshold serfaty looking guy. I WanNa see some magic and you see told you at which point I say no thank you and I walk alkaline. Let's imagine nope no. He'll just pull you side and it'll be an audience of one and he'll do like a trick for you and then you'll be on your way. Trick my fist in your face. Thank you for the call. I guess no-one no-one on this. Show outside of respect for the finer things in life so far three calls me aside. They want to see some Hari getting them fist in the super bowl. You're going. It's GonNa take your money by the way speaking a magic having a magician on stupidity this week you ride wow right. Ask Ask him about the Magic Castle. He's a magician to the stars though he doesn't like he did the Matt Nagy Chicago bears that worked. I mean okay. He did that in the preseason but he also goes goes out to Lake Tahoe and he does it for Steph Curry Getty G. It always did you get him. I like Scotts. Here's what you're going to have to do. You spend your entire broadcast career trying to get into Augusta and leveraging all these relationships. The Magic Castle is the Gusta of magic casts okay. It seems like anyone can get in there one hundred and forty dollars nine and now it's more complex than that you saw that guy. They barely let him in with his medal pants. Are you telling calling if we all walked up to the Magic Castle today no with one hundred and forty dollars per person turned away. You're not going. I don't know cool enough. It's a the magic house. None thought open to the public is what you're saying. I don't know you have to have some sort of you know like there. There's certain benchmarks that you have to hit. Physical appearance probably probably got caught by astle. I think I got well. My thirties definitely no you can get into a relationship ship to get in. I'm going to try to get Mike and that's that's. That's what I try to do in Hollywood. I'M GONNA try to get you all right so wait the next time I'm there I have no interest in going there but but you seem seemed to have just sound like the most bad ass could ever mad. Oh mom you're missing out. We go out to Ryan close. Out is the last call we're going to take on today's local our Ryan Ryan. You're on the air going doing well Ryan. Let's get into it. what you guys. I'm thinking of my favorite things the like the nineties my love playing sports games on like Nintendo Super Nintendo. NHL Ninety four five my benchmark game the greatest game of all time. Oh good EA sports talk at Sega Genesis Right. I had to have genesis like anytime before the reason I love this because going going like two thousand seven. There were still names in that game. There were still playing and still relevant. Is that the army jogger like yeah. Is that the one in swingers that they're playing where so you can make the People's head bleed when you knock him on the ground like on the ice yeah yeah yeah absolutely you couldn't get into fights fights like you could knock people down and getting the crowd pumped up a lot right and I tried to get your desk full of all time so that was what my favorite game how fast yager that Yager lemieux line how fast they Baraza was probably the best goalie in that game. They were unbeatable. The the penguins Oh yeah but like the thing about that was is that the their speed will be a certain speed but when you started playing every year will be different so sometimes yager like skate super slow cycle for your lines and see who was actually skating faster that game versus like a guy who said he was like like ninety speed and he'd be scaling the slowest on the ice. You can state that best. Okay all right is. Is there anything else that the call Ryan now that was it. That's Ryan. Would you go to the Magic Castle. Yeah I see so. It's funny that the bar I go to locally the owner of the bar usually like once a year during football season he has he has the access like gay winded up place place so he's always offering up once a year during football season fries so I wanna know I live in southern southern California. I've called you guys every every morning like four thirty and I've been I think called one hundred nine times one time just to get Peru and I broken through a couple of times and I basically had like Mike all they had to go to works. Rien Kenny confirmed that the magic castle is a place SOUCI. NBC and it's where Hollywood's elite goes to play. I think so I think you you should go because you probably could find a connection into Augusta their weight. He just hold on a second Ryan. Just said that he could go if you wanted to go but he's never gone. Obviously he knows the bar owner of the most. Oh successful bar in southern California absolutely it's called sky box and if they absolutely dive bar and I love it. He's your ticket in the owner that you've never wanted to go right. I would go with he has a magician coming in every Wednesday from the Magic Castle and does card tricks and stuff like that in the bar. There's like he did the card trick. Re throws throws on the ceiling and there's like cards all around feeling the bar because that's the magician I'm not. I'm not joking. You did that trick for the Chicago bears of serious yes.

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Full Show (Week 1 NFL recap, AB in New England, Cowboys' Super Bowl chances, Tyreek Hill injury)

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Full Show (Week 1 NFL recap, AB in New England, Cowboys' Super Bowl chances, Tyreek Hill injury)

"Good morning welcome to first things for some general. That's the hall of Famer Chris Carter and like look at. What are you talking of? Now the desktop starting to look like you're all talk. All that stuff is the pay that I'm Charlie is scheduled for next year spring training. We just add one hundred numbers rundown. Yeah Joe Got Everything Organiz Organiz. Let's go. We're having three different conversation. Let's go different confident. You're dressed looks lovely. Thank you so much. I love both of your suits. Thank you so we finally finally have football to talk about football. That happened big Monday show for you so baker and the browns have got off to a rough start. Dakyns Zeke got off to a great great start with the cowboys. When we gotTA start with the game the basically just ended a few hours ago with a team that made the biggest headlines All weekend Sunday night football steelers and the newly minted six times Super Bowl champion Patriots? We'll get to the newest Patriot in a second but the game itself this was all New England forty two year old. Tom Brady threw threw for three hundred forty one yards and three touchdowns against the steelers to touchdowns to fill up door set one to Josh Gordon blowing out Pittsburgh thirty thirty three to three to open the season. Here's more now from Tom. Brady big plays really helped us tonight and they'll help us every week if we keep making <hes> <hes> but I think it's got to be different things every weekend. Sometimes it's big play. Sometimes it's more methodical drives and you know whatever they're going to defend. We've got to figure out how out execute against so that's what we'll get back to work again. It's the first game of the year so there's a lot to learn from a lot of new players out there. We're GONNA try to build on tonight eight and try to get to to know Tom. Fonzie Brady the Nice postgame luck at forty two years old see how impressive where the Patriots last night against the steelers very impressive impressive very impressive with them with all the distractions as far as unveil in new banner they're six championship facing the only team in the NFL. It's got six championships. The Pittsburgh steelers Pittsburgh steelers have the whole off season to get ready for this. They're they're talking about their overall chemistry man. It's a everyone in the organization's aces got a breath of fresh air but when you don't have talent I don't care how much air you got care much chemistry. You got in in in in the locker room but this was they were totally holy outclass from the beginning. We didn't New England's going to do offensively. We didn't know what their wide receiver crew. The last couple of weeks of the preseason didn't know who was going to play but a day decided that are skilled guys are better than your skilled guys and offensive line did a great job as far as protecting them but they decided I'm going to attack their secondary specially Gresley their safeties in the middle of the field and that's what Tom Brady did. It's a I. I'm not going to overreact a week number one but I'm just going to everyone. AFC is planned Liam for second place and it's just a matter. How many games are Tom Brady and the Patriots? If he stays healthy they're going to win at least fourteen games like they don't even have a contest until Oh at least the middle of the season so we typically say if you're going to beat the pats get them early leader now. Oh you're not gonna be able to do that because we saw what they did. The Pittsburgh going to go down to Miami next week destroyed them then they're going to go through the AMC ESPN buffalo and the jets and then they go get some of the giants. I mean they don't have anyone in the browns like week number eight so fourteen and two generals so you're super bowl pick like they will be home field advantage. Yeah I know Kansas City played stay but they keep Tom Brady healthy and and and they're the only team that got better yesterday even though they played the game because they're going to sign a player today that only enhances everything else they do nick. They don't play a playoff team to your your point until week a playoff team from last year until week nine at Baltimore Week eight Cleveland. They obviously didn't make the Playoffs Week Nine Baltimore. We said when we looked at their schedule something I love to do if they get through Pittsburgh seven Oh six and one at a minimum looks likely through seven weeks and they looked great last night and the deepens was spectacular and the offensive line was good even though it dealt with another injury but I want to start with the Guy Right in the center stage there and Tom Brady. I don't want us to be numb to what Brady's just did last night. At Age forty two became the first player that age throw three touchdown passes in a game since a guy named George Blanda George Blanda who was a kicker and a quarterback played in the fifties sixties and then into the very early nineteen seventies it was quite literally a a different era almost literally different sport the last time we saw someone at this age have that type of game. The closest we'd seen is a forty one and a half half year old Warren Moon who say might be the best athlete to ever play the position of quarterback one of the greatest most skilled quarterbacks we've ever seen in Warren born moon and Tom Brady did it and made it look easy and Tom Brady just continued his domination over what is supposed to be his biggest rivals levels since he's been in the League how Philip rivers that's a potential future all of fame quarterback on our team that has consistently been good during Brady zero yeah he he's Never Law Stan how about Andrew Luck who was supposed to be the guy who took the torch from ready. He never lost to him. And how about the steelers the Second Best Team GonNa Conference this era in that building yeah. He's never lost to them six. No now eighteen touchdowns a one twenty five quarterback rating and averaging thirty six points per game like maybe we were surprised by the three in the thirty three to three for Pittsburgh but no one should be surprised a prize that Tom Brady carved them up because in that building. That's what he's been doing his entire career against that team well. It certainly helps that he had people to throw to. I'm hi. I'm old enough to remember a conversation. We had it was last week <hes> that they might not have enough weapons whether it's the receiving core whether it's replacing Rob Gronkowski they haven't even gotten Antonio Brown yet and they look like they're going to be just fine. How much better does ab now make the team that you saw out there last night and realize Pittsburgh hadn't had a top ten defense in a long time? That's not a top ten defense. That's definitely not a top ten secondary so yes. They're second. They're wide receivers. They work question mark. Why because we didn't see element at broke his thumb in training camp missed a lot of camp? We've seen Philip door set. We know that he is not a consistent starter. Josh conversation about ability. It's about availability in various not only was coming recovering from Achilles beyond thirty but he also has a bad hamstring and we haven't seen him play good football in and several years so it's not as if those questions weren't legitimate but when you don't have a pass rush you only Tom Brady five times you get one sack. He's GonNa Carve view up. I don't care who the wide receivers are. In their wide receivers the group of them look at the plays because outside of Josh's catch and run the plays as they run the guys. were running wide open so that's by design so yes. We give Tom Brady credit. He's playing in Lee level steel but they have more than enough weapons and they're getting a weapon that at everything that they do Josh Gordon everything that he does is a football player. There's nothing he does better than. AB besides is be big if you want to run quick slants with Josh run deep ends. Ab is better at that than him Philip Dorset. He's a better speed receiver game speed than Philip Dorset Dorsett. He's a better route runner in the slot than element. He's got more speed than him now. Does he know more football. Play the game smarter don't know that but their lack of depth on the offensive line lack of having equality tied in it will be hidden because of the wide receivers now being a strength just like their defense in the Defensive Secondary Antonio Brown on the field is the perfect fit for New England because of what Chris said he can play all three positions COMPLA- them at incredibly credibly high level I. I don't know if he can learn all three I don't I don't know that he's played in Pittsburgh system his whole career. I wouldn't give him credit for that yet. Well what we the point system has slowed down a bunch of wide receivers now randy. Moss is a football savant. I knew he would adapt Zap two it and he sucked it up. That's why he had an immediate impact and he had offseason and training him. AB is coming no training camp no two OTA okay so they got to try to find a position for him that he can play fast in before he can play all of them but y y with agreed but with all that said the point I'm making is he's a guy who has in his time in Pittsburgh played all three wide receiver positions into Chris's point played them all at an incredibly high level on the field. He's he's ideal once he gets an understanding of the offense once he gets in the flow of things to question is and we will get to find this out in real time was Antonio Antonio Brown intentionally sabotaging his way out of Oakland in order to get to New England. If that's the case then he probably will work any any probably will last or did Antonio Brown sabotage himself out of Oakland not intentionally in which case. Why on Earth do we think a guy who who couldn't take a fine for skipping practice is GonNa take criticism in meetings? Why do we think a guy who was scrolling bank balances in meetings is going to work well in the New England the system if now if he just simply decided few months in Oakland a few weeks ago whenever I want to get out of here and drew told my agent told me if they do cut me got a soft landing in New England so I'm GonNa keep upping the ante? I'M GONNA threaten to fight the coach. That's not enough are threatened fight the GM. I'm going okay. I'm going to record the coach or that's not enough or I'm just GonNa flatly lightly say released me until you finally do it. Then that's one thing and that could create other issues about how people feel about that but it's really thinks he was the wronged party in Oakland and that he just could not deal with the structure of Oakland then this will be short lived in New England but for New England it's enormous reward no risk because they don't need them and they will. Oh cut him like that and not let it become an issue. That is what I'm excited to see once you become a member of the team later today all right so he wasn't available to play last night against the steelers steelers he will be available most likely for the Patriots next week against the Miami dolphins modern on that game there. We'll talk much more about this but coming up. Let's talk some Baker Mayfield and the browns and their disappointing week one loss. That's next on this one. You can always check us out on the Fox sports channel on Sirius. 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It looked like we might be in the midst of an enormous week one upset Washington jumping out seventeen points vernon in Davis playing with a heavy heart through the passing of a family member that was I mean just the hurdle was great then he finishes off at the touchdown see always been one of the best athletes and man he was out there definitely playing with a heavy heart tremendous play though all right colts chargers Philip rivers thinks he's got an easy touchdown me Hoeger flies in at the last minute for the Nice pick who you call him a hook. I see that leak straight from Ohio another Buckeye right their health both been his only bugaboo yes ability but this play. I will watch this game in real time. Cultural plus six appreciate that I thought it was going to break it up. The catch was unreal. Ravens offense pressed in Princeton score touchdowns in the back of the endzone tap and both feet in bounds man. We gotta be all new show in America. I'm boycotting this that skit now dolphins highlight in Miami. They're skipping over it. I mean Dan unrolls has got a really good football team. I think that was the seventh touchdown of the day the problems for six by Baltimore bunny onto Baker Mayfield and the browns all right on paper one of the more talented teams in the League the preseason darlings the favorites to win their division for the first time since one thousand nine hundred ninety nine or is that on paper on the field squad a different story bakers struggled throwing three picks all in the fourth quarter and getting sacked five times getting destroyed by Tennessee forty three to thirteen thirteen yesterday a thirty point drubbing to open the season. Everybody's GonNa throw some the trash. I think that's good. I know what that meant we have in this is locker room and quite frankly early Dan what happens on the outside. I know how we're GONNA react. I know what we're GONNA do how we're going to bounce back and we got Monday night game coming up so <hes> we don't don't really care. Where did you go say? Some of this was because you guys nobody says so. Don't actually question could lack of playing time in the preseason. It's something to it is no question that we done very bitter locker room after a very very big loss by the Cleveland browns see. Would you make of this team La- Yesterday they didn't play well they they didn't play well in one of the things in trying to put a team together and especially when team has a young players that aren't used to winning in the pros and most of the veterans that they brought there aren't used to winning so so you have a young culture brings in other players that aren't used to winning and under this name of prime time game but Tennessee's underrated is a franchise raval <unk> had those boys ready to play fundamentally and they're very very physical one the question Marxist from a team going forward with the browns how good with their offensive line V last last year they were a pleasant surprise. Freddie kitchen took over their ability to be able to run the ball. How balance on offense that's what they were able to do but not immature as a football team you could see with the penalties not that many penalties sister raiders in two thousand sixteen eighteen penalties one hundred eighty yards? It's impossible to win a football game so if you have that many penalties who pin that on the coach not getting the team ready or not not being known but that's just an excuse anyone who blames the coach because say say they're instant. They're left tackle cameras and he kicks a guy. It's not the coach's fault that will in the heat of battle. A Guy Kicks another guy. No that's not the coach's fault that's him he doesn't and have any type of discipline. I'm sure that they'll have a bunch of these clips together as a team bill learn from it but no we shouldn't blame Freddie kitchens but it shows that when you bring together a bunch of kids who have not won an NFL and guys from other teams to live Vernon he hadn't won with the giants owe. BJ Hadn't one where he's been Sheldon Richardson. He hadn't won on a big big level where he's been so now. You have these end with all the guys who've been there that have been loser so it's Def- we talked about them when they have a bad mouth. How would they respond? Well here. We go the first month is all and they're not doing well as you can see in interviews and they definitely didn't do well in the most important thing to football game yesterday. How do you lose games in the NFL turn the ball over? That's usually the best way to lose games Baker through threw three fourth quarter picks how about third and fourth down efficiencies well. The browns were miserable. They were one of twelve on third and fourth downs you mentioned the penalties most in the NFL in three three or four years the most and Brown team history. I mean eighteen penalties Vernon. Hundred eighty yards is laughable one other way to lose. Get Your quarterback hit. A bunch of Ah way to do that is heavier left. Tackle is not that good to begin with get kicked out of the Game Greg Robinson for kicking somebody who should have been kicked out of the game. That was obviously intentional. I know watching the game. There was some question. Did he mean to eat to my eye into the rough cy he clearly meant to and the now of those four things. The one that is most concerning to me is the last one baker getting hit because when we were doing the tale of the tape on paper about Cleveland the least proven part of their team. The least talented part of their team was their offensive line. Maybe their best offensive lineman from last year Kevin Zeitler he now plays for the New York giants. He was part of the Olivier Vernon trade. We knew Greg Robinson <music> who they're left tackle. The Guy got kicked out of the game he they waived him before the start of the year for salary cap reasons knowing they could bring him back. If you're left tackles in a position where you could put them available to all league and you're like don't worry we'll get you back. Well that shows you the position that you're in with all that said this is a fifteen thirteen game with seventeen minutes left and then the wheels fell off right after the browns had their first good drive since their first drive of the game the very next play Derrick Henry seventy five yard screen pass that fooled every single member of the browns defense after that the browns of the next four possessions turn it over on downs wants wants and Baker threw three interceptions including pick six so if you didn't watch this game this wasn't a blowout from start to finish is it two point game with two minutes left in the third quarter and then the browns Brown's some adversity and the absolutely lay down it doesn't change my opinion on them for the season but this is a terrible way for their season to start. I know you've been really high. Hi on Tennessee's offense coming in you like them a lot but what surprised you more about Cleveland their offense or their defense well. I was surprised defensively that that they didn't get to the quarterback. I thought they would be able to put more pressure on the quarterback. As Nick said I've watched this whole game. It was a tight game going back and forth you would expect Tennessee to be be in a twenty one twenty game 2017 game. They made a couple of big plays and they had already outclassed Cleveland. They were more physical the known at the point of attack. They kept their head their composure but at the end when Baker just tried to force the ball which he tried to try to bring them back. That's how you get the three interceptions so the three interceptions are a little misleading Baker was not accurate like he typically is but some of that came from the hits that he absorbed earlier in the game and that's why he had to get an x Ray. I believe something was wrong with his right arm. He got sacked earlier in the game and you could see his right arm kind of went numb or he lost a filling in that I believe it because two of interceptions was all accuracy guys open in the ball didn't go where he was amen and you could see it when he left. The Stadium was in soft rock and listen. They said their x rays were negative but I agree. Obviously something happened there but this is where the lack of a veteran who to Chris's point has done some winning and I think showed up in the fourth quarter where it was it was an absolute stomach punched that team that after they had fought back to get it to a two point game thirty seconds later later one play later Derek restrained on the sidelines for seventy five yard touchdown to scores again but even then you're down nine with sixteen and a half minutes left the game is far or from over and the browns unraveled from that point forward. I listen the team that if you're not picking the Browning most people picking the steelers to win the division they also lost despite thirty points this week and now the ravens looked unbelievable and we'll talk more about them later. I wouldn't bury the browns just yet to say the least but obviously week week one went terribly in every way it could have baker got hit. They turn the ball over. They couldn't convert third or fourth thousands and the penalties are that'll probably be the most penalties any team committed any game name. All two hundred and fifty six games played league this year not a great debut for Freddie Kitchens in the new-look Brown's. Here's why sometimes it's good to see what a team looks like before we anoint wean them coming up. We discussed Prescott Distort Week one performance. That's next on first things first. Are you ready for what's ahead. You can't always predict the future but you can gain plan for it. 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BJ Finney got the snap count wrong and the referee called a false start on all the linemen except for the center for you guys the the referee didn't do him any favors there and he was holding back a smile when he said it the entire offense of line moved except for the center pouncey and just gone out with an injury this is the backup centers I snap of the game and you saw him turn to Big Ben and like I thought we were on to everyone went donald one who was actually one of the steelers better plays of the day oddly enough because it was only negative five yards a tough tough moment for BJ Finney coming in your the first professional play no not not a bad look. It's amazing. When you get nervous? How you can't hear or you can or can't harm yeah? He was and he was just standing there. He was like no everyone's wrong but I'm GonNa tell you what he what he wasn't. In a rush to place and we started out see limped off this kid's was like Oh my God all right time for stores to start your morning sponsored by Gillette Clear Gel yesterday. The Patriots raised their sixth Super Bowl banner before destroying the steelers the aforementioned aforementioned steelers by thirty points. Tom Brady improving to six zero and his career at home against Pittsburgh mccown press for the pats last night in all phases they they were extraordinarily. They got some new punt returner. I never heard of Cattlemans job. Every time he got the ball. You went for twelve yards. Their fifth wide receiver Jacoby Myers undrafted. He had one pass thrown in that that was great. Stefan Gilmore was great again but the story to me. Is Tom Brady at age forty two doing something only one person is age has ever done in the history of the League in that George Blanda who who is the NFL's all time scoring leader at one point because he played quarterback and kicker who sells Longo. We played a time where your quarterback could also be canker Brady's now passing those guys in the record books the defending Champs look unbelievable. There hadn't been easier time to throw the ball Nicholas if you don't hit the quarterback then we're Tom Brady's playing. I'm with Tom. Why would I quit? WHOA hand and keep giving me the answers to the test couple play action big place Tom Good but New England look like well? The preseason port what about those doing practices that they went went through older important. Oh check know something about football. NFL WATCH OUT FOUR YEARS IN A row PATS TWO SUKHOI MIAMI AFC. y'All might as well just laughable allowed overreaction week one Monday does give them the conference already. Get onboard get war market down moving moving on down. Lamar Jackson had quite a Sunday lit up the dolphins posts in a franchise record five touchdowns again. It was the dolphins but still l. A. Great Win after the Game Lamar joke that his performance was quote not bad for a running back and neck what Jamaica Lamar season debut I mean it was perfect. I perfect passer rating his stat. Line was one that precisely had never been put up in the history of football. I know the dolphins are terrible. I don't think they're going to be the worst team ever and he played as well as you can. Play Twenty Pass Tim's three hundred and twenty yards only three incompletions by the way Miami. I know you don't have a ton of talent right now. Did did you not get the memo that Hollywood Brown Fast Hollywood browns running past them to start the game. Lamar was great. Season couldn't start out any better. I love what Baltimore's doing with him. As far whereas they've added some speed Hollywood Brown another Florida guy they've added and him and Lamar haven't had a lot of reps together so to see them hook up a couple of times in game action. It's it's only promising but I liked the fact we're going to start with the run at some little play actually got a couple of good athletes at tied in so it should be exciting for Baltimore. I'm glad glad to see him progressing as a thrower the only team in their division with a win yesterday our number one overall Pick Kyle Murray did not win his first game but he didn't. He didn't lose his first game. Either Kerr debut ended in a twenty seven twenty seven tie against the Detroit Lions cuyler brought the cardinals back from an eighteen point deficit in the fourth quarter threw for two touchdowns and three hundred eight yards see. What was your biggest takeaway from pro debut? It's really hard to come back from an awful star. In this offense. Oh man they were bad for the first three quarters of the game. They were awful. If you could throw a towel mic would've thrown a towel and stop the fight but but it takes some stuff on inside for a young player to respond the way he did in the fourth quarter and overtime really accurate he does have a big time arm needs time in front of him to throw I believe that that defensive faced with <hes> with the Detroit is one of the worst defense in NFL and put any pressure asser couldn't cover anyone late in the game see you mentioned all the time people coach with the Patriots they the Patriots and they start doing everything the opposite of the patriotic glowing eighteen point fourth quarter lead to a rookie quarterback rookie head coach. It's indefensible. I was on a team out of took that pistol stuck at isn't it okay but on the it's not sharp either the on Cuyler side of things he started the game nine of twenty nine I seventy yards as poorly as you can start to recover the way he did and that usually ties or bittersweet for the cardinals yesterday. That tie feels like a win that was a great game great finish for them all right the reigning. NFL NFL MVP Patrick mahomes picked up where he left off last season carved up the Jaguars for three hundred seventy eight yards three touchdowns forty points however his star wideout Tyreek Hill suffered a collarbone injury and is expected to miss a couple of weeks nick. Would you take away from the chiefs week. One performance much like the ninety nine rams to the two thousand rams the number one offense in football one year is going to be the number one offense and football the next year I mean tyree kill with the most potent potent weapon the chiefs have went out after not doing much and they did not miss a beat. Hey Sammy Watkins. That's Clemson. Sammy Watkins Nine for a Buck Ninety eight and and three touchdowns and they did this in a stadium that was the hardest place to score and all the football last year Jacksonville at home allowed less than sixteen points per game. The chiefs scored on their first eight consecutive possessions Patrick Mahomes got dinged up in the game because Jacksonville foot is Ankle Jacksonville acts and bill is going to create a pass rush didn't matter that now the chiefs defense on the other hand same as ever before again Gardner Menchu came out there Gartner Menchu a in winter junior college to Eastern Carolina some school in Washington State and just twenty two a twenty-five dyson people up so the defense going to be a problem but the offense it was as good as it was last year even with tyreek missing for two and a half three quarters of the game defence. I gotTa Start With the defense because the defense Stevens I it's it's going to be bad again and Patty mahomes glad to see that he came out of the game healthy they got after Jacksonville does have have a good rush but Sammy Watkins. I'm very happy for him. New England's getting a star receiver I'd call Nick yesterday and said Kansas City Garden of a star receiver and Sammy Watkins is as healthy and as good advice seen him play a game since he left. He got a couple of games there in buffalo earlier in his career but he hadn't been on to be healthy and this off season he changed his whole training. Resume Regiment and Andy Reid said it couldn't happen to a nicer guy he works hard doesn't say anything is low maintenance maintenance. Get him back up to the talent level. They thought that they when they went out in signed him to that. Big Contract that was to me was the most exciting thing to see because to me. Sammy Watkins career was going to be well. What if we'll man if he could have ever stayed healthy but he's phenome- as big got really strong hands runs great routes and he is fast and you could see that Andy Reid did a great job designing plays? They're going to be unstoppable. Offensively Travis Kelsey Shady McCoy Roy added to that eight yards a carry for shady eighty is nice especially with Andy. Andy knows exactly how to be able to use them so the firepower we'll be there on their offense but but their defense I believe gave up another four hundred yard game with him scoring as much they score they don't give up a lotta yards but to have the backup quarterback come in and start carver them up the way key carbon started ten of ten you can't I can't avoid they'd be nice. Sit around and talk about their offense all day but that defense no whole team has ever won a super bowl with a historic bad defense like Kansas City. You got five new starters on Devonshire of new defensive coordinator so obviously the defense is going to be a work in progress had asi better than it was last in was yesterday but if you go to Jacksonville score forty Jacksonville leaving in a down year was top five deepens last year and again number one home defense as far as points points allowed the chiefs look like a team that can set the all time scoring record last year they were the third highest scoring team in football yesterday against an excellent defense without their best offensive player other than the court quartet office lines got to play better than that absolute but they're also not gonNA play pass rushes as potent as Jacksonville each and every week I mean he was getting hit every single google play and now we don't even know going into week. Number two is Patrick mahomes because they're not going to be break the scoring wrecker if he's not if he can't scrap he's not a and yesterday today was great for him in the pocket. You're absolutely right so many of his great plays are broken plays scrambling around now luckily next week they have Oakland but they're not gonNA have tyreek Hill until middle of October to I think longer than that I think middle of October at the earliest so they're going to have to make do without him but this seems a lot like last year chief team a great great offense and defense. That's holding on for dear life and we should mention a tough afternoon for Nick foles didn't even make it out of the first quarter. He's known for this season. Which is why Gardner okay moving onto the cowboys? Now hosting the New York giants after Tumultuous Ultra Precise Zeke or won't play Z. play but it was Zeke's quarterback Dak Prescott who was the star last night deck tossing four touchdowns throwing for over four hundred yards he also finished with a perfect passer rating also still waiting for a contract for Jerry. Jones says that's imminent at this point. Here's Jack after after the game it's about talent. This offense is full of it. You said it it's fun. It's fun to be a part of it is fun to be the quarterback of group to be able to go out there and lead these these guys all -fensive line the way they played the receivers making plays. The backs obviously is just great to be a part of this group artsy. I'll start with you. What were you impressions of? The cowboys have DAK Prescott leading this cowboys team to a good win. My my conversation would have to be around deck in his ability to throw the ball it. It's hard in this league to develop as a quarterback now because if we don't see instant results from you in some form or fashion and or if you win gains but you don't throw roll the ball like we criticize quarterback so much in fact being on the Dallas cowboys he is under the spotlight since he took over for Tony Romo and I had said that he would grow as a passer it takes time your arm gets stronger. The more you can anticipate the more you start becoming accurate the more you can hit guys in Astrid and that's what we saw we saw a young quarterback who's got a lot of experience and now the passing game part of his development is really starting to take shape shape but they added some other players Michael Gallup and his second year yeah. He's going to have a breakout year. They've added more speed Randall COBB. He's much better slot receiver than than what they've had and is a more conflict wide receiver. Amari Cooper is going to only continue to get better. Jargon is going to give them a threat. As far as tightening can run down the field also Dak Prescott in the threat of them have the run the ball with Zeke into Atlanta scream. He's they play action in his ability now to be able to sit back three receivers four four receivers and just drop back and throw the ball that was the most impressive thing that I saw yesterday in the NFL his overall development as a passer. I knew he was a great great leader. I knew he was the voice in this locker room. I knew that the Dallas cowboys teammates love him but ultimately you're games got to build a speak for itself and that's what you could see in yesterday's game against the giants his ability to throw the ball down the field. I'm Tomo Pearson the ball through the defence hidden guys in stride stride so that they can get yards after the catch. It was one of the things that I've seen all day. All we can UNIFIL week one so tough because what are we seeing in. Why are we seeing it? The giants last year struggled mightily on defense. They lose laverne landon concentrate snacks Harrison meteor so at the end of the year we're going to look back and say the giants one of the worst defenses inches and football the more offensive coordinator that looked very different than what they were running a lot of last year. We're GONNA come back and say man Kellen. Moore is the next sky that's going to be talked about as a head coach young offense of mind or at the end of the year we're GONNA come back and say Mandak Prescott took an enormous leap in your in year four or the final option options that week one was an aberration here I was skeptical of the cowboys ability to make the playoffs stacked. NFC because of my skepticism about Dak Prescott if if Dako is anything close to the player was yesterday then of course they can make the playoffs they can make the super bowl like they. They didn't need Zeke or Tony Pollard yesterday they they needed the threat of them to a degree for play action but guys Dak was delivering strikes. Guys were running open. I mean to me that's the best football game Dacca's has played since the playoff game against Green Bay and I know they lost that game but when he went toe to toe in the second half comeback with Aaron Rodgers rookie season when I thought he was going to be a star in this league now what he did yesterday though it's only been done four times. NFL history that many passing yards that many touchdowns in a perfect passer rating he was there is no holes to poke at that game. Yesterday he distributed the Ball Great Amari was mario had a bunch of catches like Gallup at a bunch of catches Jason Wind getting the actual and the very short touchdown. Everything Dak checked every box to start a season yesterday well. He certainly did enough to earn the contract that is probably coming his way any day they now according to Jerry Jones but we talked so much about how the cowboys we're GONNA use Zeke and his first game. What did you think of? I think thirty eight snaps he had but what did you think of the way the cowboys used him. He got the the right amount of touches he was able to get some game conditioning. You could see early in the game. He tried to bounce outside and you can see he didn't have his game day legs. He couldn't break is is many tackles but you could see as the game went on. He got stronger. I don't believe they did damage to him long-term. It was nice how they fit him. In to the new system <music> sometimes had Zeke start out in the slot and that's what you call it just window-dressing just so you can see where the defense is a starting slot and then they brought him into the backfield so the workload work load it was very good but they relied on on Dax ability to build a throw the ball and nick from what I saw a lot of the things that duplicate kw number one thing they play action pass where he faked into line of scrimmage look to safety off to his left in to a bb down all right his accuracy courtesy if he can keep his accuracy up. I don't see why he can't duplicate some of the things he was frightened the ball he's got another seven games in Texas state in the Jerry World World. Were this perfect conditions like I don't know why he wouldn't build a duplicate the performance on a regular basis because that's what younger players when they get when that light turns on and they get that game success because he's had a lot of team success. He's tried a lot of experience the only thing that he hadn't had was would what if they take us out of our running game and just dropped back and throw the ball so it's not a matter of who to defenders were if you give him free lanes if you bump and run one of his wide receivers on the outside side he'll look to safety all and you'll find Amari Cooper with a nice pattern. All those things to me are promising signs and the duplicate able and it is overreaction in Monday. I get that but you said something before the show that I thought about and I think it's interesting this group of wide receivers that we saw take the field yesterday for them in Cooper Cobb Bob Gallup. That's the best group group of wide receivers core of wide receivers. The cowboys have had sense what Tom a decade two decades as far as time <noise> their ability Gallup can be your speed threat Cooper your do everything guy that also as speed and we know that Randall cobb even if Green Bay wanted to move on he as an upgrade over Cole Beasley with respect to Beasley so all you don't have to get no respect toby man. I hate when people say all respect well what I I don't know if that decent game in buffalo yes four five catches forty yards. Not The point point is deck is in the best position he's been he's got all three of his offensive Lineman Lyman. The drama with Zeke is now over. He seems to have a more than competent receiving core of Chris's right that he can't duplicate not these numbers but this type of performance the cowboys absolutely can compete with the Eagles for that division and be a dangerous playoff team. I need to see it a little more than just week wanting into the giants money. Amari Mark Cooper looked really good yesterday. Think Jon Gruden would like to have that wide receiver comment up what went so wrong for the steelers last night eight. That's next on first things I talk about group. I'm ready to fire them. Beck here first things first with Super Bowl champion Chris Ken t hey Chris Hey doing good you looking awfully colorful this morning on. It makes me feel good when they do that. Role swear coming off the first full week in football bean things sir you want me to start yes. I'll go to the refrigerator when y'all do back auto talks on Sunday night football Kenny last night the Patriots showed up to play while the steelers just sort of showed up Pittsburgh scored only three points big bang completed aided dress twenty-seven of forty seven passes no touchdowns and pick his biggest target. Antonio Brown now plays for the team who beat him last night. So what do you make of the steelers season debut. Here's head coach Mike Tomlin no need to sugar coat it man. We weren't ready for prime time tonight. All of us not not a good enough plan not good enough execution of that plan. You gotta tip your cap those guys it's humbling it sucks but that's national football league. <hes> it won't define us if we don't let it and that's what we talked about in their we own it we chew it. It sucks. We can't have that and be varsity. We can't have that in be competitive but we had it tonight so that's why I said what I said. We're not ready for Primetime Chris Kenny. How do you excuse that how do you excuse an organization like the steelers not being ready eighty for the New England patriots not being ready for the first game of the season? There is no excuse but I think we do have an explanation for what happened. Yesterday I mean you you talk about what the Pittsburgh steelers wanted to do this offseason they wanted to eliminate all of the distractions all it annoys you know when you had. Ab Situation Levian Bell Ben Rothlisberger Burke of making headlines with his radio interview during the two thousand eighteen football season and so I thought they were trying to put to bed all of those distractions but the reality is that it wasn't addition awesome by subtraction when you talk about losing arguably the best wide receiver in the National Football League and arguably the best running back in the national football league levy on bell like understand that building play for them last this year but you had Antonio Brown out there and he does make a difference he is a player that can dictate front coverage and make the picture cleaner for Ben Rothlisberger and you saw yesterday against against that New England secondary which is one of the best if not the best in the national football league. Those receivers couldn't get any separation Juju Smith Schuster James Washington. I mean you run down Dante Moncrieff moncrieff they couldn't separate from the defenders in the back seven of the New England Patriots Defense and the reality was it made it a lot harder for that that steelers offense to be able to put points on the board you look at their first five possessions in the game the first half I mean you had a situation where you went three and out three consecutive times. Sometimes we call that a killed nick. I know your numbers guy analytics. The probability scale says that three consecutive nights is the equivalent of a turnover in a game in terms of being able to help you win and then you ended up with a turnover on downs so it shows you how incredibly inefficient that offense was an and of course Ben Rothlisberger not being able to push the ball law down the field only having only completing two of twelve attempts of ten yards downfield in the first three quarters of football when you can't push the ball down to feel like that and makes it hard hard to keep up with the New England patriots often so all in all it was a situation where the steelers went out there and they couldn't have played worst and when you're one dimensional they ran for one first down and by the way James Connor after is really great first half of last season start to his career has fallen back to the pack a little bit you saw last night why despite the fact that Antonio Brown is Damn near certifiably crazy. The owner went to visit him to try to fix the relationship lasted. They need them because email. Maybe it is sometimes it's addition by subtraction. Sometimes it's subtraction by subtraction. Sometimes you're a thirteen win team last year you had. Ab and then later on doesn't in play year and you missed the playoffs and now you're not going to be on or a B and we'll see if you go from being alive to the playoffs in week. Seventeen were last year to a team that is fighting to be five hundred because that's what the team looked like last year the defense which thought it's rookie linebacker was going to all of a sudden fix things in week one obviously did not they were starting one of the eight players that made the league from the what was the afl the aml he started for them in the secondary yesterday due to injuries in their secondary it didn't take long for New England find him and his band of course like I mean they knew that was out there and they scouted it and New England after the first half dozen plays of the game made. It look like Oh we're GONNA run. We're GONNA run. We're GONNA run. No words going to dice you up but the biggest absence was clearly Antonio Brown all of a sudden Dante Moncrieff is heavily involved. All all of a sudden Juju is getting those coverages. Ab used to get and not the beneficial coverages he got last year this what they're not gonNA look like that every week obviously but their limitations -tations on offense given their lack of talent on offense is the biggest reason that I'm so skeptical of there being better this year than last year despite the fewer distractions because the talent is going to matter and yesterday they beat a team or they lawsuit team by the way that they've never beaten in that building they their own six now in Gillette since that stadiums existed wouldn't Tom Brady plays but it shouldn't be surprising that the offense struggled moving the football against what adding soon be a top five defense with no with their best to weapons in the last five years gone yeah this is not a elbow this is not about. Ab Canoeing the Patriots of manhandled the Pittsburgh steelers for years Mike this is not new. They've embarrassed Pittsburgh for a number of years even Pittsburgh when we thought that they were perfect match up New England is always as the class in in that game this game of matchups you would think their secondary in New England which I believe is the best in the league going against the young white receiving core to me. I've never seen a good wide receiver core be led by twenty two year old now Juju Smith Schuster. That's his that's what his responsibility is at twenty two years old. He's he's got lead that y receiving core and I do believe that he can feel devoid of a number one guy but let me tell you something. They don't have a number two. James Watson is not a number two if moncrieff issue number two you've got a problem I've seen enough football with him in the Indianapolis in last year in Jacksonville when they were desperate for wide receiver so Oh to think that oh ABC's going no it's not about a just by himself. It's about that two three and four spot and you could see last night New England forced into your only matchups are going to be low percentage throws deep down the field and they weren't able to connect on a bunch of those the offensive offensive line of Pittsburgh didn't show up. They are dominant underrated offensive line. That's why they couldn't run the ball. We should mention them and I thought one of the great things that you said it wasn't whatnot obvious to me because I never heard it. Nick said it was obvious I'd never heard it in all my years of football when you go three and out three times it's just like a turnover. I had never heard that so. That was something that I'll always be watching for. This was a dominant performance New England. Tom Brady if you don't get to him you're not going to have a chance this Pittsburgh defense and Devin Bush in the middle he is the answer to the injury and the gaping hole but they isolated him put him in man to man coverage and they took advantage of his youth. We talk a lot about teams identity sanity. You love the I mean we talked about the identity of the Eagles and who they are now. The steelers had an identity when they had the three BS there. We knew what you were. You knew what you were going to get from them. You knew where their strengths were. They last night a little loss like they didn't really know which direction they were going in like. They didn't have an identity did you did you feel the same way felt the same exact way because they couldn't couldn't get anything going on offense particularly in the first half and when you're struggling like that as a team you're looking for the guys that are force multipliers guys that can elevate the play of everybody around on them and of course in the middle of that has to Ben Rothlisberger he supposed to be the guy that's able to put the team on his back and be able to make the place to get the team back in the game he just wasn't able to do that and of course on the defensive side of the ball the steelers didn't have any answers for what the pats were trying to do too a lot of the times when the steelers match-up against the Patriots you see a lot of zone coverage in the back ended entity up defense last night they tried unveil so man covered all you trick them up and Tom Brady dice them apart. We get them closer routes and all of that type of stuff. You saw it on that. Josh Gordon touched out where you caught. The ball. Shallow over the middle took it to the house I mean the Pittsburgh steelers just didn't have any answers in terms of being able to slow down there patriots offense but if you listen to the Patriots Players Post Game You can understand why the game was so one sided when you hear Doron harm and talk about the expectations for this team coming into this year and knowing what they're trying to accomplish knowing that no team has gone back to back since the past three Oh four that's what this team has on their mind and understand that you have to prepare where each and every week and you can't take any opponent for granted so CC. I hear you when you say it's not about an A. B. or Levian belt in this particular game the outcome didn't surprise me with the game look like did surprise me but a long time since I've seen the Pittsburgh steelers get manhandled in a very long time since the steelers didn't get into the end zone this this is the first Game Ben Rothlisberger has gone without a touchdown pass since October of twenty seventeen. Yes the Patriots did some of that but his own lack of personnel did some of that as as well and I it's not the story today but I think the whether or not the Pittsburgh steelers have a legitimate running game with James Connor is going to be a big part of of this season because bins not going to be able to throw for five thousand yards like he was last year. That's not going to exist without Antonio Brown and James Connor since week ten of last year giving you forty five yards per game on the ground probably not going to get it done for them. All right. We gotta take a break Chris. Stick around coming up. Are The browns going to be the most disappointing team in the league this season. Let's overreact react to one game next on first things first back here first things first with Chris Canty we are going viral yesterday to Sean Jackson played his first game back with the Eagles and had a day eight catches one hundred fifty four yards two touchdowns and before the Game Jax were cleats in honor of his longtime friend the late nipsy Russell the two grew up together in Los Angeles. <hes> Angeles Jackson says he'll auction a pair of these each week this season with proceeds going to Nipsy hustles Kant's. That's awesome and Sean on obviously I mean. He Got Eagles back in the game but this is the most important thing he did yesterday. That's really cool and I can't believe it's been since March. Cincinnati was killed. We we saw it across sports. Russell Westbrook did the had the twenty twenty twenty game a lot of guys that knew him from south. La That's that's an awesome thing to Sean Jackson. Dan Z jackets always he's done things right there in south central. La He's always been connected him when his mom they've always given back so good start coming back to Philadelphia and Matt. We've been bragging about Oh man. He's the best elitist sixty yards so I'm also nice from fifty and a nice win for the eagles to boot right onto the Cleveland Cleveland browns now Cleveland did not exactly make good on all the hype this preseason losing by thirty points to the Titans Baker Mayfield look shaky through in three picks getting getting hit seven times sacked five times Odell Beckham was relatively quiet by his pro bowl standards as well. Here's Baker Mayfield after the game. Everybody's GonNa throw it in the trash. I think that's good. I know what that meant. We have in the locker room and quite frankly. I don't really give a damn what happens on the outside. I know how we're GONNA react. I know what we're going to do. Do how we're going to bounce back and we've got a Monday night game coming up so <hes> we don't really care. Where did you go say? Some of this was because you guys about nobody. Eddie says so don't ask that question could lack of playing time in the preseason have something to do is no question that Chris. Kane is a lot of talented team. We talked about how they would handle themselves if they go in a string of losses obviously after this I lost. They weren't great in the locker room but it is coming off your first game in your first loss. What you make of the browns yesterday it was bad and this is one of the things that we worried about this Brown's team because you have so many young guys is a part of that core that are outspoken when you hit that adversity? What is this team going to Freddie? Kids has talked about it in a post game yesterday you know either. You're gonNA come together as a team where you're going to run away from each other. We got a bunch of guys that are gonNA come together where we're gonNA find out because I mean this team is not did not play up to the expectations that we set for them this off-season when you lose the turnover battle three to nothing you have eighteen penalties and the other team scores without a touchdown without their offense being on the field. That's about as bad as it gets. I don't know what the the odds are but I'm pretty sure that you're not going to win a football game and so when you start your season at your home opener with all the expectations that we have in Lebron's coming into this season in that fashion listen. I don't know how you couldn't be disappointed but then listening to Baker Mayfield at the podium after the game see see that probably bother me just as much as the performance that he had in the game and I'll I'll tell you why when you stand up there after a game like that and you don't accept responsibility for with happened and you talk about what people are going to talk about the naysayers all of that stuff when when you focus on that rather than focusing on trying to improve your team's execution when you make that story to me. That's the problem you got to recognize. When you're a quarterback you are responsible? Ah for setting the agenda for the locker room and yesterday I think Baker Mayfield missed an opportunity after the game now listen predicates right about one thing it only counts as one game and the season's not over but your quarterback is responsible for setting the tone and I thought Baker missed an opportunity to do that. They did everything you can do to lose a game. You mentioned that if you have eighteen penalties is in three turnovers aniela defensive score you don't you probably know teams ever won a game like that if you do any of those things it's damn difficult to win a game eighteen. Penalties is the most in franchise history one of twelve to boot on third and fourth downs meaning every drive was ending prematurely and the offensive line in which was when we were doing the tale of the tape on this team pros and cons the cons were questions about the coach because he was inexperienced overall lack of experience on the team name but the one unit that we're worried about was the offensive line and helping one of your offense alarming gets kicked out the game for kicking a guy clearly intentionally with all that said there's a fifteen thirteen game with two minutes left in the third quarter and then the very first play after the browns and finally clawed themselves back into it Derrick Eric Henry takes a screen pass seventy five yards for a touchdown at right on this playwright here and in the wheels officially fell off the next four drives ended without a kick for the browns but all with the ball being the titans hands three turnovers and one turnover on downs those turnovers all by Baker. That's a recipe to get blown out in a game you you really weren't blown out in until the very end I it doesn't change my opinion. This should be the best team in the division but this was they got punched in the mouth as badly has anybody in the league this this week in this of Miami and we'll see how they respond next weekend against the jets gender. You are correct that one of the things we were going to be concerned about what they have a bad month whether they have a bad stretch absent of what about the offensive line because they were surprised last year also as a football team you have to learn how to win but also you have to learn how to lose and that's what can't he's talking about as far as Baker at the press conference. You can't tell me in one breath. You don't care what people say say but then you give people all the power to throw you into the trash like where would you care. Why would you care where you're with people anyway? What's important and candy is our past protections? What are good runs what are good throws in the mistakes that I made because there's nothing worth worse as a pro canty? You'll bill vouch for this when you go out. There and you look like you ain't been practised like you are totally embarrassed as a professional. You're like all these people came to us. When you play at home man they spent spent their hard earned money and we did not give them the type of a format to live up to the hype so how they respond is going to be very very critical in that Monday night game name? Let's see how they come from the start but for Freddie Kitchens it's important did he gets this young team attention because you've got a lot of kids on that team haven't haven't won anything and the guys who came from other. NFL teams they haven't won anything so you want the winning streak to build a stop at one but it starts with having a good practice on Wednesday and Thursday making those corrections and next time you put that product on the field you wanted to be a much improved version we more concerned with how their offense played or how their defense played because as we hyped up both sides of the ball this off season I was concerned about both sides of particularly both lines the offensive line and defensive lines. I didn't think they played particularly well on on the defensive side of the ball I thought that the browns would be able to generate a little more pressure. Keep in mind that titans were missing two starters on that offensive line one section and one for injury so I I know that that that we were making excuses for Baker Mayfield about not having Greg Robinson after he got ejected but I mean Marcus Mariota was able to do without his the starting left tackle so I mean at some point you have to be able to make up for the deficiencies or the lack of having personnel availa available to you and I just I didn't see Baker Mayfield Dude. I mean to have three interceptions in the fourth quarter. You can't do that as a quarterback and try to put your team in situations where you WanNa win. Denzel Ward another guy that I thought underperformed yesterday. Aj Brown had a day on gave up too big gave up too big plays and then of course he gave up the defensive holding penalties both the which led to touchdown all drives for the Tennessee titans so you can't do those types of things as a football team. You expect to have a chance to be able to win games especially when you talk about games that are late into the third fourth quarter and should be clear. I'm not excusing Baker's performance because left tackle got kicked out at all especially because his Greg Robinson is not a demonstrably better player than the player player who backs up Craig Robinson Greg Robson. There's a reason that he has not lived up to the high draft billing and he's bounced around the League a bit but teach your question Gina On for more disappointed with the offense than the defense the defensively I mean again with two minutes left in the game. The defense allowed thirteen points now the titans had fifteen. That's because two of them came on a safety that the offense gave up and often could not move the football except for the first drive of the game and then that drive I mentioned in the third quarter. The offense is had the lion share. Those penalties leagues the offense obviously at all the turnovers the offense was the reason that this team to me got stuck in the mud the defense I think will play better and I don't think Bakers GonNa have this bad of the game at again this season but the offense in my mind was the most concerning part of it. I know you see forty three points allowed but safety pick six short fields because of the turnovers that's not all on the defense all right someone say the browns get a bit of reprieve next week they'll face the jets Monday night who they themselves are coming on as to the the time dependence off loss Kenny. We'll see later in the show up. Antonio Brown is heading to New England but do they even really need him. That's next on first things. First I neve- we'll get to Antonio Brown in just a second but first Washington philly Vernon Davis does a little bit of everything on this play catches hurdles runs beats defenders Oh and scores a touchdown great way to start kicked kicked off one hundred season for the NFL this one the first big highlights Vernon Davis makes a great individual play and that you buddy to safety their number forty two nick what used to play for your chiefs. No no all wait. Yes yes starring either someone else that is him. Yes No skylar Alar. Murray has all day to throw before finding Larry legend deep for diving catch. It took him a long time but they finally hooked. Larry Fitzgerald helped bring them back in overtime man. This was a ugly definitely will not go on the Archives of football the first three quarters of what the air raid off them rallying though to get even tie was impressive Russell not as impressive as well it rivers thinks he's got an easy touchdown but me hooker flies in at the last minute for the one hand overreaction week one Monday I declare that this will well into the season as the best defensive play we see all year. I know this was spectacular play but it won't be the best of the year great catch one hand and he's got unbelievable hands. You got to build a stay healthy promising safety thornley thing. That's your house right has been his inability. Stay on the field all right just when you thought the Antonio Brown ounce ogle was as crazy as crazy comes. ABC will now be catching balls from Tom Brady over the weekend the raiders finally released him and in what seemed to be just minutes later later patriots picked him up. He agreed happily to a one year fifteen million dollar deal including a nine million dollar signing bonus. He posted this on instagram. I am with the caption man the Patriot way. Here's Tom Brady on his new receiver. I think you know like anything else. You know whether it was Josh last year or Philip when he got here a few years ago late and then you know this year Antonio. How much can you learn and process and get in here and we're all gonna work hard and try to get up to speed as fast as possible but we haven't had a training camp together or that so it's you know you got to force a lot information and <hes> you know we're all excited? The happened always I could say is we're just gonNa work as hard as we possibly can to get up to speed as quickly as possible. You will forgive me if I need to see it to believe believe it after what has transpired the last couple of weeks with Antonio Brown all right Gabe the pats workout. It's GONNA work out. It's it's going to work out. It's going to be amazing how much commonsense he's going to get in that flight from Oakland to when he arrives at Foxboro and goes inside their facility sued he's GonNa make a bunch of phone calls. He knows some guys on the team. Philip Dorsett grew up in south Florida. ABC Been One of his heroes. They've worked out together other. He's got some other people. He's familiar with on the team but it's remarkable and I've seen it year after year. When Bella check is there to the craziest guys what happens to them they go there and straighten up Corey Dillon? You wouldn't believe the stories coming out of the Cincinnati bengals locker room about Corey Dillon. He was typically own the milk. L. Carton is one of the worst people in the NFL. Oh he goes there. Albert hangings work now. It didn't work out because it worked out like this. He didn't do it we told him to do. We got rid of well. That's the thing Randy Wendy Malls on day. One running have no type of problems with Bill Belichick. He loves the Football Laboratory. He loves learning football so I knew Randi with thrive there but doc Ocho Cinco people thought he thrived there but the football xs knows got in the way of him not being able to learn not bill to play a variety of positions but I'm just going to tell you I I learned this. When I lived in Minnesota for a long time I was going over some people's houses and my wife at the time told me you take shoes off and you get there? I was like I'm not taking my shoes officemate line initially when she was a clean up when you get there you know what happens you get to. The door is the moment of truth. Do you WANNA come in our don't. Do you WANNA play football. Oh I want. I got my own life. No no you don't have no life it is the Patriot way twenty four seven and if you don't they will get rid of it's only only money it's only money it's been they'll draft. Pick for you so ain't got no tolerance for you. You got one strike and going to be out and Bella tests going to let them know that navy is is not going to have a problem. Watch how it works. Well okay so I WANNA make sure I understand what you're saying are you. You're saying it won't be a problem because if he is a problem fueled just immediately be gone or won't be a problem because he won't ABC and a half commonsense this year. He's going to be there for one year okay well. That's exactly what I said. If that's the case then what Antonio Brown did over the last ten to fifteen days is premeditated for this exact result because he appeared to be someone no no. I don't think it was premeditated and the reason why because there were a number of teams that had a great deal of interest in there he was trying to make it work in Oakland until he realized they find him when they finding that became a different ballgame because then his guarantees were in jeopardy now what happened after that it was a lot of premeditation but before that no he was trying to work everything out in Oakland and get that thirty million dollars guaranteed okay but then what he did that them vim finding him the first time did not void his guarantees. It only set the table for those guarantees to be avoided if he continued to act out and he acted like someone pardon me who could not control himself. He acted like someone who would repeatedly work against his own best interests. He acted like someone who was irrational. Who who was impulsive who was someone you could not rely on a plane right does not changed so the only way if he does make it the whole season in New England then then the whole thing? The last week in Oakland was a long gone. It was all I want to leave. His agent has a great relationship with New England. Maybe through somehow I know you're not supposed to through the little butterflies year day man just so you know New England who tried to trade a first round pick for you when Pittsburgh was moving you they'd still take you and so we just kept upping the ante on getting released he kept upping the ante on Ole threatened to fight the coach that won't work or the gym I will but even if that was true nick anything that he was doing don't make sense him going into England maybe somewhere else like because he doesn't have the type of personality that would suit going orange unless he knew that New England was going to be waiting for him Chris. I don't know how we this is. This is what I do know knit. We make phone calls around the League and New England there were we're a bunch of teams waiting for yes and somehow this thing got done. In two hours bunch of teams waiting for him. Bunch of teams can offer them contracts and if we're GONNA take long negotiate a contract attract but if you gotta give you we'll give you ten million guaranteed. Would that move you to the front of the line of course you gotTa Hall of Fame quarterback that keep you in the front of the line right agreed Chris. The point that I'm making is is very simple what we have seen in Tokyo Brown do is irrational erratic behavior that has hurt him. Financially Ashley hurt him publicly hurt him in every way possible unless it was all in pursuit of this if it wasn't if this is it's just happy coincidence then. Why will he change then? Why will all of a sudden well? This is what I just. I just don't bill belichick influence belches influence makes people change does a guy out there named Steve Harvey writes this book how to get a man's that every woman there's a man out there that will do everything right for that. One woman and Bella check is the coach I would have loved to have played for him. I don't know how we're going but I would have loved to have done it and their players in the league that you know something they'll straighten up for him because they respect them and that happens as soon as they get the phone call or as soon is the <hes> as soon as the transaction as soon as they talk to their friends and realize hey man this is a different story here but two seconds after he agrees to go to the Patriots he puts out an instagram post the Patriot way with the money just in that post alone leads me to believe. I don't think he really is committed to change. We're GONNA SEE DIFFERENT ANTONIO. Do you think he's on the roster at the end the season I do I know but I just don't I mean I somehow WanNa. I believe that he's going to actually make it work because he found new seasons on the team. Nick didn't things I do not think he is because I've seen the influence of Bill Bella check. I think what the Patriots have going for them by the way why is I didn't answer the question why I think this is a smart move for them is because they are maybe the only only team in the league that if he starts to act like Antonio Brown they will not let it metastasized they will instantly cut ties. He will only be nine million dollars dollars. They've got the CAP space anyway because they don't have a single bad contract on the roster eighties no risk and the reward is of all the receivers in the league may be the one who's skillset fits the Patriots the best because he can play every position he can play a Julio. Maybe you'd say better fine. Okay then second-best whatever it is the reward is the best receiver Brady has had since Randy Moss to risk new England's been trying to get a good receiver for the last three. They were so desperate that it's been a first round pick on these first time for twenty five years. They keep holding onto Josh Gordon so I give away the did it. I support the fact that they did it because there there is no risk any in the idea of why didn't other team to it other teams. Don't have I think the stomach to the first time he acts out caught it. I'm just the raiders could of course like did you use Krizan algae. The raiders also had a no shoes policy and Antonio that I'm not taking them off and they're like okay. We'll walk slater assertively lately and then stopped around in the mud and coming back in and they're like don't tell mom but the Patriots won't do that and I just don't think a guy who scroll bank balances during meetings through it bad kids want discipline a right and they react to it when they do get it quashed. What's going to happen okay? I don't think he makes it. The year we'll say coming up the other side of the Patriots game what went wrong for the steelers last night that's next on first things first time now for stores to start your morning sponsored by Gillette Clear Gel Lamar Jackson lit up the dolphins different story same five touchdowns posting a perfect passer rating after the game he joe finish performance was quote not bad for a running back saying what did you make of Lamar season debut. I was really excited for him. He's from south Florida going back there him in Hollywood brown hand connected without no off off-season because Hollywood Brown had that Liz Frank on his foot there in Oklahoma and the championship in the playoffs there so I was happy and I'm happy the way Baltimore is grooming. I mean to be a quarterback. They had US coming out thinking amen. He's still going to run a little bit you know man against the JV which happens to be the Miami Dolphins for Dolphins Fans yes you guys are GonNa going to be awful all year. He carved him very very happy for him now. Just I gotta put my brakes a little bit. How many throws do we have next week? He goes against cuyler numbered cast tonight gaming sites. That'll be awesome. Listen our friend Warren Sharp. One of the smarter people writing about football was saying anyone who'd listen he was better as a passer as rookie than people gave name credit for he was extraordinary. The numbers did lie Yup raining. NFL MVP Patty mahomes picked up where he left off last season carving up the Jaguars for three hundred hundred seventy eight yards three touchdowns and forty points however his star wide out sorry kill suffered a collarbone injury and is expected to miss some time now nick. Would you take away from the chiefs a week one performance the twenty nine thousand nine chiefs offense is going to be the best offense the NFL's seen since the Oh seven Patriots and I know the Oh seven Patriots patriots got outscored by the 2013 dolphins but I think that this is the level of offense this chiefs team is going to have when you can lose tyreek Hill and not miss so beat against the number one scoring defense at home last year Jacksonville it. They are going to be hanging thirty five every week which is good because that deepens Gardner Partner Minhsiu looked like a hall of fame quarterback when no one had heard of him two hours before kickoff so the defense is going to be bad. The offense is going to be the best in the League ho-hum. Everything's the same in Kansas City except Sammy Watkins and they're going to need him to be number. One for several weeks that to me was the most exciting thing Andy Reid did a great job. A defense has that made him made the the the offense look pretty mundane last year he came up with some creative ideas creative play call earlier and they are mismatch nightmare Kelsey. Sammy Watkins run by Shady McCoy making a contribution going to be exciting for that offense in Kansas City in nineteen all right onto some Sunday night football now now last night the Patriots showed up to play while the steelers just sort of showed up Pittsburgh scored only three points Big Ben completing just twenty seven forty seven seven passes no touchdowns and pick and is once biggest target. Antonio Brown now plays for the team who beat them last night. Here's steelers head coach. Mike Tomlin no need to sugar coat. It and we weren't ready for prime time tonight. <hes> all of us not a good enough plan not good enough execution of that plan. You gotta tip your Cap. Those guys is humbling. It sucks but that's national football league <HES> definers if we don't let it and that's what we talked about in their we own it we chew it. It sucks. We can't have that and be varsity. We can't have that and be competitive but we had it tonight and so that's why I said what I said. We were not ready for prime time see. How is that even possible how you not ready for your season opener? It's it's hard week number one. This is the oddest week of any of the weeks aches and I know the Pittsburgh steelers when they left Pittsburgh on Saturday they left again. They had a good offensive game plan. They left there and they had a good defensive game plan but once you get into the game and with New England you didn't know what they were going to do. Do we think they're gonNA pick up from the playoff New England or do we think because they're wide receiving corps with element and and Josh Gordon being healthy different a stretch field they did a little combination of both they were a little suspect that an offensive line so they helped him out by trying to run the ball early when they couldn't run the ball they went to that play action quick passing game they start running a lot of picks and got Pittsburgh out of their man forced him in his own and then Tom Brady start carbon carbon apart in that zone Pittsburgh. How talented are they? I don't believe they're one of the most talented rosters I knew that they still had a talent problem compared to <music> all our locker rooms that much better we'll tell you what you do. Give me a talented team with a bad locker room and compared to a good locker room with less town well listen. You can't can't live with your actions live with your words all the damn time they knew everything they knew about Antonio Brown and the owner flew to see him to try to repair the relationship shipped to try to get into comeback. You know why because they need him as crazy as he is is radical is all of a sudden every receiver on their team got worse without Juju. Juju might be a better player this year than he was last year he should be since he's what twenty two years old came into the League twenty. He's he is actually better better but he won't be better this year on paper or on the field because all the coverage is skewing towards him James Washington who could have been a nice story. Oh in year two and number KNBR through seaver now. He's got to be a number two receiver and Dante Moncrieff who probably should be a number two receiver in the XFL is now a number two receiver in the NFL and didn't go well for him last last night and Ben Rothlisberger the does not have right now. It looks like a running game to lean on James Connor after he came out of the gate great last year last half dozen games for him since every game. He's played basically since week ten last year. He's giving you forty five yards per game on the ground last last night. They had one rushing I down. That's no way to beat the Patriots so yes I. The story to me was more about how great the Patriots were. Then how bad the steelers were but everyone's going to quote Baker Mayfield. Everyone's GonNa throw the browns sounds in the trash today because they lost by thirty the steelers lost by thirty in a different way and looked just as bad albeit against a far tougher opponent Cillers have real problems and Mike Tomlin's never had a losing season. There's the coach of the steelers you look at them after week one a new wonder and you're worried does that streak into this year. Are you worried read though about the steelers moving forward or was this okay we weren't prepared. It was against the Patriots. Now we move on and get back on the steelers track number one. I do think they they were prepared dismissed because you don't perform well doesn't mean you're not prepared. They're well coached as a staff. Mike Tomlin does a good job but yes. It's a great question. I I am concerned and you know the reason why Cincinnati's better offensively we saw them in Seattle. The third new coach looks like he knows how to design some place. We know Cleveland's GonNa GonNa be better in Baltimore. Offensively is going to be better so I'm concerned about the lack of rush. I'm concerned about the safeties in the middle of the field their lack of ability cover people so yes going forward. I am concerned. I'm not concerned about their offensive line because their offensive line is one of the top five in the league bill. Get that running game going James Caan is lack of productivity is not his own last season. He might have gotten a little bit tired but that offensive line the last half of the season was not as good and in last night's game name they were not as good so I believe once they get that running game going it will allow these young receivers to grow and Juju. I do believe is number one but when you put someone on him like Stefan off on Gilmore and gives them a little bit of help he is not going to get you the same productivity that we've seen when they've put those type of people in Aby all right. Let's take a break coming up are the cowboys the best team in the NFC east after the performance they had yesterday. We discuss next on first things first back here Chris Candy. We're going viral last night. Tom Brady and the Patriots opened the season with a blowout win over the Pittsburgh steelers before the game they raised their six super bowl banner and check these out. The pads had custom air force ones made by nineteen celebrate the occasion. I feel like you can get a pair of those C- <hes> of course GRONK was in the building with zoll teammates. I he posted this flexing same with the caption six trophies six APPs one then he'd been working on that one for a while doing it for the ground yeah evidently life former patriots shoes though I feel like you with your Robert Kraft connections you guys vacation together in Israel all these things I feel like you could get a pair of those sneakers. Yeah can't be bragging about being with craft everywhere I go. I didn't win the Super Bowl this awareness I I can wear crafts own personal from Nike but I can't wear the suit balloons and I got a limit visibility right at all right now my uh-huh yeah don't worry about it onto the cowboys. After Malta's preseason thin waiting on Zee Dak Prescott was the Star on Sunday four touchdowns and over four hundred yards good enough for a perfect passer rating and Kenny what were your impressions of Daqing The cowboys after their blow out against the giants we talk so much about how this Zeke's team and what we're GONNA expect from Dak Kresa how much they need him if they are gonNA play deep into the playoffs. Would you think now I was impressed by would Dak Prescott did yesterday. I mean he's clearly taking a step forward. In his fourth season. You can tell the maturation that that's going on development and his overall game he was decisive with his with his decision making recognizing the coverages and being able to get the football out of his hands. I was was really impressed by that. I mean he was the beneficiary of the giants running a lot of split safety coverages and then he was able to attack the middle of the field they utilize plaques and with Zeke Elliot in the Backfield got Alec otros giants linebackers to bite up and then you were able to make some completions down the field in the middle of the field Michael Gallup Blake Charleston with a touchdown down so I mean a lot of the things that you saw that cowboys office doing yesterday I mean there was sort of it was because you had number twenty one in the backfield but the execution for Dak Prescott I was off the charts I mean on third down in the red zone. He was outstanding and that's where quarterbacks typically make their money. Dak Prescott yesterday was five or seven on third down passing one hundred and twenty a two yards and a touchdown and then of course his team was perfect in the red area so it was their biggest issue last job was their biggest issue. They were twenty nine in red zone efficiency last year they were perfect if it yesterday so you see that the quarterback has developed and they've cleaned up some of the overall issues that they had on the offensive side of the ball from a year ago but a lot of that has to do with Dak Prescott being able to take his game to another level. This was the best game DAK Prescott has played since the playoff game against green bay his rookie season where even though they lost I thought he was spectacular especially mostly for player in his first ever playoff game going toe to toe with Aaron Rodgers bringing his team back only to lose on a field goal at the very end dactyl everything that I have questioned in his ability to do he was precise he was on time he was looking. He was looking all not even necessarily going to his second rate. He was doing that as well but there were times where he he knew what is read was but he was looking as if there was a different read just to move the safety over and then he was delivering strikes. If Dak plays like this the cowboys and go to the Super Bowl now I don't know if that can play like this more than two or three times a season but I wouldn't have expected him even against the giants to play like this one time and so it was statistically a game that only has happened four times and Info history that many yards that many touchdowns and a perfect passer rating and we can't go without mentioning Kellen Moore his his first game is an offensive coordinator. He dialed up play after play that took advantage of what the giants were allowing. You guys mentioned the split. SAFETIES does real quick if if I may ask you this way troy was talking about it on the T- on TV it was as if well why would you ever play split safeties. Obviously it's right down the middle. There has to be a way to defend what was doing but the giants couldn't adjust to it. The giants couldn't make the adjustments to what can the cowboys offense redoing and it led to the cowboys offense to me making almost no mistakes. Yeah can't be was right. The giants thought that they could take Dallas or negate their running game by playing cover to the minimum amount of people in the box. Zeke is not up to speed not packed a box and that's how we're going to end throwing against five six defenders in the secondary typically young quarterbacks. It's going to give them more problems compared to you. I'm getting out there. Blitzer man to man they make the reads easier so that was the reason why that cover too but that play action linebackers they can't play the mold Oldfield and get sucked up on the run with the rent responsibility so not only Kelly Moore the play calling but some of the window dressing some of the pre snap stuff where where for instance if they were going to line up a bunch formation last year they were lined up in a bunch for Mason Bunch right toss right this year what they did was they line the wide receiver up outside bring him in motion and they might start Zeke in the slot bring him in motion so the different things that they set their players in and to build identify where the defense was are they playing man in zone they gave back a little indicator and give them a little head start on where the ball's going to go but the reason why I like what he did was because I think it's duplicative Ren- defense is clearly looking off safeties. Those are things you can duplicate weekend and week out how young quarterbacks don't WanNa let the ball go into areas. You could see him doing that and the number one thing that I thought was the most promising was he was driving live in the football down the field and you don't see that unless guys got confidence you could see 'em loaded up on his back leg stride into it and we're the ball was hitting people. It wasn't down on by their shoelaces. He was hitting people either in their numbers are up in their face masks and that's where I like to build a judge quarterbacks and knowing their accuracy can a guy catch it and and do something with it. That was a big difference on the deck. I've seen in the first three years no CC. You're right with all of those points. Another thing that I thought was encouraging was to see Dak Prescott uses legs. Thanks to be able to extend plays or to be able to scramble to keep you on pick up first downs when the defense had everything you know out there executed to a T. DAK Prescott was the X. factor he was able to be that guy that defenses can account for there is no defense for quarterback run. You just don't have it. The defense doesn't have enough numbers and Dak Prescott Trescott you saw him early in that game show enough in the run game being able to get first downs where you keep the defense honest and now you keep the offense continuing to move to change and get more opportunity -tunities so I I just I was impressed overall with what Dak was able to do. I was also impressed with Michael Gallup two young boys being able to one hundred and fifty yards receiving yesterday seven catches on seven targets to it was unbelievable just seeing what he was able to do catching the ball in Traffic Amari cooper no he went over one hundred yards receiving what he also had a heck of a Croat block on that run for a touchdown for Ezekiel Elliott orange peppers the giant strong safety so when you have everybody buying in and everybody sacrificing awesome for one another that puts the team in a really good spot and I mean I think the quarterback is a part of setting the tone for the team in terms of being able to do those little things that lead to winning one thing Colin cowherd talks about is that might not be one of the best stores but you give them thirty or forty million just because he's an adult voice in the room. He's a good leader. He's GonNa do all and say all the right things imagine playing a football game with over one hundred million and guarantees that you've turned down and going out there guys getting hurt like you know they played in the League game. Guys got hurt in that first game knicks old house collar. How do you remain calm when I haven't signed this deal? I know it's own on the table. I know it's over one hundred main guarantees to me that says something about Dak Prescott that the money's not going to change him and have that composure. I thought we should mention that now. Imagine taking a team that you saw yesterday with the way Dacca's running the offense and adding one hundred percent of Ezekiel Elliott to it and you have to imagine this. Could it'd be a super bowl. Listen to the what we have on the bottom of the screen. The second ago was if tackles like this is this team on the fast track to the Super Bowl the answer would be yes if Dak plays like this if deck plays like one of the three or four best quarterbacks in the whole league then apple. Yes I think your point of playing without fear despite knowing that what that was the biggest gamble DAK stake in his entire life was taken the field yesterday before signing that contract even if they are at the finish line is Jerry put it. I think that's a great point one. I hadn't considered and so no now is it do Qabail can he do it again. We'll see but that was as good a start for the cowboys as you can possibly have the thank you for listening to the

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I've I've got that answer and much more as we get up with US starting right now third verse same as the first or at least the second third edition of the College football rankings last last night entire top seven unchanged so it's cleansing Lsu Ohio state and Georgia excuse me at Lsu Ohio State clan Georgia in that order with the inside track. You see it on the screen. The the third edition puts Alabama's still at number five. It is just the second time that Bama has been outside the top four in consecutive weeks. The question is do they have a path to moving up at least one spot. PAC twelve has two teams right on the cusp with Oregon. Coming in at six and Utah at seven. The PAC twelve hasn't had a team reach the playoffs since two thousand sixteen beat. Don't forget about Penn state sitting at eight with this huge road game at Ohio state. This week a win would give Penn state. The third highest percent chance to reach the playoff loss would all but eliminate them. There's The allstate playoff predictor still giving Alabama the fourth best chance to get their ahead of Georgia and ahead of both one in-laws PAC twelve teams. Of course we still have two weeks. Left of regular season play then the conference championship games. And then we'll go from there so there's so many different areas that we could take the conversation here one of the things though that I didn't get to bring up with you yesterday. I could not believe I was not in this segment. But I I listen to you and Marcus spears except slander slander of Lsu. That I could not believe so the conversation that anything may happen that would knock. Lsu from number one this season short of them losing strikes makes me as insane. They've beaten four teams that were ranked in the top ten when they did they beat Alabama. WHO HAVE THE PEOPLE I know are trying to make an argument still belong in the top? Four when it's all said and done they went it into their house and beat them. What on Earth could happen? I'll ask you pollock that should knock. Lsu from number one at any point this year they don't lose. I think it would be a loss that would knock career. That's fair but how about if they don't if they don't lose they're probably not going to get knocked but just forget the first class committee when they came out and even with that body of work to Lsu had over Ohio state who was number one want Ohio state was hot. LSU Hadn't played Alabama. Yeah I know but they were still number one and I think they. The committee still looked at Ohio state because they looked at the level of dominance every game has been about twenty four points or more like. It's not it's not even close. You're watching chase young. It's it's pretty obviously a really really good but if LSU beats number four in the SEC championship game there's no way LSU won't be number one for the committees in the committee's out there is nothing that can knock them out of it. LSU has four top ten wins. That's the first time that's happened in thirty years in college football. They've had to do it on the road and awesome had to go the road to to Tuscaloosa and pull out that win. There's no chance it doesn't matter what will have so. Why do we have to explain this to Mr Mike Conferences? Better than your con- for over there. I wish you hadn't used the word slander. A couple of relatives in Chicago. August asked me if I needed representation. I just I like LSU Don't make don't be a hater. Here Maria became such thing as an absolute salute. Right now because this thing moves every single week and I'm going to argue that after this coming week with Penn state and then Michigan and they ultimately the big big ten championship game or how states can move up because their resumes GonNa look good too. And they don't have the forty fourth best defense in the nation. And they have the time they leave the nation in scoring defense. I think that's the difference. They're basically saying that. LSU Is not a complete football team their offense is great they under deepens is terrible. They gave up the syndergaards to almost thirty seven points. I I offense is terrible. They're often through twelve team right. And it's unbelievable to see the transfer their defense almost still running still still running okay so so. You're talking about a game that they played the week after they won the Super Bowl right so they go to Alabama and this is a game that has marcus spears practically dancing on my table. Ryan Clark is screaming screaming and yelling. editors Ron eating a ham sandwich and chips. And you WanNa talk about style points the following week. They won the super bowl the weeks. Okay okay. We'll we'll take that one out About daily scoring points about Texas scoring points. How about everybody? They play scoring eighteen points. This is not a good defense. It's a defense. That's pretty decent against the run. But they've given up too many points too many big place by the way. Welcome to the world of the big twelve when your offense place fast and explosive plays. You're on the field. More Nick Savings had the balances with his defense with quick strike scores. Defense right back on the field. The defense is an Achilles heel for them. That's the reason why stay and not just Ohio state. Hey by the way I think Clemson will be. It will beat them to I. Think both of those teams can be shutting. Bolton Louis teams are better knows you I was GONNA say. And by the way Alabama's defense hasn't looked as good as it has in past years so we're almost almost a regression of that. SEC defense from what. We've known in the past. I think it's just the evolution of the season Greenie and I mean we're we're through week twelve and things change in in by the way the Super Bowl's in February and listen. I can't believe I'm the one saying this but I got people on my said all this telling me you know. Ohio state and Clemson are actually the two best teams in the country. Where did the Anti Sec by has come from what we get accused of is having he buys now all of a sudden everyone is downplaying an SEC team? That has done everything team can possibly do. Ohio State Buckeyes look very sec sec like with chase young and company and the impact players in the defensive runs Egli Thompson hungry SEC graduates here but we're liberated when we come to them and so now we're going to do more as we continue to have a whole conversation about to Tonga by allowed to come so that's on the way meantime I wanna get into the NFL. Because there's a couple of things I WANNA to get into Dak Prescott for four hundred forty four yards and three touchdowns Sunday against the Lions Ezekiel Elliott scored two touchdowns in the game but had just eighteen touchdowns yesterday yesterday. Jerry Jones had some interesting thoughts on that. I'M GONNA be real clear about something. Zeke is one of the best football players in the national national football league and it makes no sense not to be trying to get the ball to Zeke or get the plays in and around Z.. so What we do is Do both I could listen to Jerry on forever just the way. He says things Yes so on Zeke. And by the way as that was playing I was told in my ear Dak Prescott was just named the NFC offensive player of the week coming that performance. But when you hear Jerry Jones say hey we need to make sure. Zeke Elliott is more involved coming up a week where he had eighteen touchdowns and threw for four forty four. What does that mean? Jerry's one hundred percent right and listen. You don't say that often about Jerry like half the time you don't know if it's real if it's not real the he is dead right why the cowboys have to play complementary football right you want to run the football so that you can increase your time of possession there twain the league this the first time opponents of out possess them sits twenty thirteen and Dak Prescott. The whole we'll deal right. Ultimately this team succeeds and totality because they can balance the two. That's what Jerry saying. It's not it's not or it's not or Dak or Zeke. It's both an you need them both but you got to be able to get the ball to one of the best players in the NFL and by the way he didn't have a training camp so he's just kind of grew into sees him as he's going. This is a guy you wanna continue to feature in the run game and the pass game and allow that offense to keep that I feel the soft zone off the. I don't disagree with you but you know what really kills. Time possession three and outs and you know when you can't run the ball and you keep trying to run the ball. You get three and outs and then you're putting it away. Dak Doc is the guy who's moving the ball for them he's put. His team wanted back the criticism before a lot. Like Russell Wilson. Everyone said well. He's been carried by a much better team. Does the same thing we said about that about Russell. We're saying about that now but Dacca's carrying this team so I'm with you if you can run the ball but to be fair Jerry. Get him the ball. So maybe that's the passing game other options. But let's not just buckle down on this time possession thing we're just going to run the ball because if you can't run the ball you don't get to possess the ball you gotta put it away. Do you agree with the general point here that one of the reasons that defense has looked so bad is that they've been on the field much more than we're accustomed to. Oh Yeah I think. That's an arguable. I think that the Ravens defense is a lot better because they possess the ball a lot so then jeff let me turn to you as as has the offensive Lineman in this conversation the cowboys are supposed to have one of the best offensive line. Football do they are. They have not played that way. I mean the bottom line is names on on the Jersey would think that's the case. But they have not played to that degree and Elliott has always when he gets past line of scrimmage and. This isn't a whole eight-man boxing. It's not like teams are just packed in the boxes. I don't mean that way. They just haven't been efficient and running the ball but ultimately more touches that creates more. You begin to wear defenses down. You only get fifteen. Touches opposed to twenty-five touch. I don't care what anybody says. The last ten are the most crucial. Because there's third and fourth quarters. Those games away. The first quarters are always going to be tough tough sledding but ultimately has games and. I'm not taking away from Dan and Dad taught. But you've never sounded more like a offense lineman in the history of your life and I. We're going to wear them now. Bag who keep banging it out. You can move the ball about throwing throat and thanks couple of the things I want from you. Guys talk about odds. The Patriots are now nine in one with a win over the Eagles in Philadelphia. They sit atop the latest power rankings on ESPN DOT com the Ravens niners seahawks and packers round out the top five. That's what the power rankings. Say let's talk about what Las Vegas says. New England is plus one hundred ten to win in conference per Caesar's that is the best odds odds to win either conference by any team in the league. Actually if Vegas were to make the prediction right now it would be new England and New Orleans in the Super Bowl so I'm gonNA run a quick hurry up with you here. Dominic Foxworth if the playoffs were to start right now. Who which do things are being the Super Bowl I think saints chiefs I think the saints are very impressive? And what's most impressive about them. It's not their their defense is better. It's they're so resilient is that they came back from this and still put up a great season. They came back from Minneapolis. Miracle and put up a great season which is impressive. The president then. Also obviously I think the chiefs defense is much better than they were last year. They aren't good but they're better and practically mahomes is GonNa Cook what he does. Saturday your super bowl if it started. I'm going the forty niners and Ravens takes to outside the box. I like Volcker here forty Niner Shanahan. He just does so many things well he gets his best players the ball and allows them to do what they do. And then we talked about Lamar Jackson meet showed friend of impeachable. Plays about Lamar Jackson. which again you will their defense? Because they're fresh they eight play better. They knocked off the Patriots of starting today. That's where I'm going. Okay and did you notice neither one of you in the AFC picked the Patriots. So let's stay there. Let's talk about Antonio Antonio Brown but yesterday took to twitter to offer an apology to the Patriots team. Owner Robert Kraft read Mr Crap. I Apologize sincerely to you and your organization. All I wanted to be was an asset to the organization. Sorry for the bad media and the drama. Thank you sincerely. A I ask you Dominic Foxworth do you. You see any way we can keep talking about. The broncos need an offensive weapon. Anyway that happens I don't I don't know I feel like you are closer to Robert Kraft in any of us. You might be able to get into his head more than I but I think they need a playmaker. I think Tom Brady. It appeared that Tom Brady was one of the people who is upset that they got rid of them. I think it's probably unlikely that they bring them back but they need somebody that defenses have to account for in order to open up the rest of that offense pay no chance the Patriots are bringing back into not chance. I think it's hard for any team to bring him back in all honesty. I think you saw him. Go to the raiders and infant. What two months? He had run himself out. You get to a bad team. Can he look because he's always been with contenders. The steelers obviously going with the Patriots. But when you're looking at a guy is he gonNa Care Your Locker Room. He's got a lot to prove in my opinion patriots. Listen Tom the sentence he wants all of that stuff. You want to be a no line hater. It all starts on elephants blunt. Too much. Tom Brady getting hit you. You begin to solidify that protection. All of a sudden Tom Brady Brady is going to make things happen. Hey I love off of lyman but I do. I do think that Tom Brady's does have some polling organization. I mean was gone but I do think that it's probably unlikely that he ends up there. But I don't think it's crazy to think that he'll be on a team at the beginning of next season. Somebody might give them a chance. But he's not going to change his stripes. I don't think anyone's read that tweet. We know the brand new now. We've got a new man. I would take it a step further. I think that that tweet yesterday was a cautionary tale for young people. Paying attention anywhere who are originated in any field of endeavor. Burning Bridges is a terrible idea. Antonio Brown didn't just burn a bridge with the Patriots and directly with the man who owns the team and ultimately really it makes the decisions. They're in Robert Kraft. He burned to the ground. He went back. What else can you do bridge? Exactly whatever you whatever you will do exactly i. I do think that also that burning the bridge. I think they're this. Every business is about relationships and there around the league and I think it'd be hard for an owner to sign a B. Me and then walk into those owners means and Robert Kraft after AB disrespected him in the way that he did. I agree in the past things that he wanted to be buried. And we're still talking about. Got It in part because Abe won't let that is a conversation I can tell you I don't want to I if I'm anyone with Bob Kraft there any number number of reasons why I feel that way. Let onto something next year and that is this. I told you in my tease to the hour. Something is going to change here. We're less than a week from. I'm this extraordinarily dramatic moment. Where myles Garrett Hits Mason Rudolph the Helmet Garrett today? We'll be in person at. His appeals. Hearing with Appeals Officer James Thrash we had Jeremy Fowler. WHO's covering all of this with us a little earlier this morning here on get up? Walgreen him being in New York is significant. I'm told he wanted to make a first impression in a lot of times. These appeals happen over the phone but Garrett wanted to show. I'm a high character guy. I'm a player of the browns. Don't have to worry about off the field. It's just I had a slip. That's my fault and so he wants to show that kind of remorse in-person now. The browns cannot help him with this appeal. But I'm told they are at least hopeful that the way Garrett was provoked provoked in the situation particularly potentially taking a shot in his groin area from Mason Rudolph. They're hoping that that helps Garrett's situation today. Garrett will likely likely argue as such so. That was the latest and Jeremy Foul. Let me very quickly clear up what I mean when I say there's no way the suspension as it is currently placed. We'll stand there is no room for an indefinite suspension in the collective bargaining agreement. Both of you guys were heavily involved in the NFL PA.. So that's GonNa Change One way or another. They're going to attach a number of games. How many do you believe it should be well? I think they take it down to enough that he gets back in the League because again the precedent the league win. This sees this that he plays again so you were in six games if they don't I think if they don't put him back in it's about Pr. And I think that the process is not about. That shouldn't be at least if they keep modest because they don't want this attention not because he's earned this penalty necessarily at least based on past penalties that have been applied guys who've done similar accents and maybe they are punching him four. How big a deal became because we're was on a Thursday night and we all saw this to be completely honest? It's not the first time we've Seen Gossiping in. That guy. Got Four Games now. The First Guy First Time we've seen a guy do something extremely violent open up thirty gas ended up thirty stitches because stopped on the guy's face and that guy got four games. What are the you know? I think it goes to the season. I don't think he comes back through the season and the playoffs at the Brown to make it. Here's the situation. You might be right but I wanNA know why like what's the justification other than it's we are not trying to be fair air. We're trying to protect our business. Which is fine? I think I think you're right. You protect the business right. This thing became a disaster right from an optics perspective. Not only he does he and listen to situation was my groins been grabbed. My eyes have been gouged. I've been in plenty of fights on a football field. I understand what all this is for somebody to say. I Just Lost Austin I. It was over to cash. Got Him everything as Rudolph comes back in. You know the helmets in your hand. You know he didn't have someone on you and I both know you really thinking thinking at that moment. I actually don't I'm not myles Garrett and I'm not I've never been in that place and I don't think I would do something like that but I don't know I've never felt like okay. But here's the thing even if he's remorseful more spoiled that doesn't change the consequences you ultimately you got to sit at the pound situation after. How bad does all that look for? Two of the most the the best players in our gang. We have to leave it there. But there's also something in playing the result of these things. If that helmet is turned a little differently we could be having an entirely different conversation. Okay we'll see what wants a punishment to we'll talk about it more. That's another topic that we can get to in the meantime. Where do we go from here? Let's have a conversation about two time of Loa Greenie. The last time we draft rankings have been released and there's no surprise to a has fallen mcshea had him ranked second before the injury. But now listen at thirteen behind quarterback Joe Borough. Oh and Oregon's Justin Herbert complete rankings. Were released this morning and the number. Two is the heisman favorite right now. LSU's Joe Borough and the defensive players the top five. I hail from Ohio State which David Pollack loves you can do the entire top thirty two on. ESPN DOT COM. But let's go back to the conversation about two obviously. He's undergoing successful hip surgery and we know that he could make a full recovery but he won't be able to do anything as far as throwing a ball are being obese. Show an NFL scout. Anything for the next at least six to eight weeks. So how far do you think he really would fall if he decided to go into the draft. His health will determine that you can't say well. Oh he's he's throwing the football and it looks great and you can't judge a lot of the things you can still judge the intangibles which is one of the most important thing about a quarterback. You still have plenty taping though. He's a baller. But how's the HIP GONNA hold up houses. His body get a hold of Maria. This guy that at four surgeries in college. He's consistently been banged up. So that is a key concern. That's part of when you invest in something you I'm GonNa give you millions of dollars Alabama investment to be on the field so that'll be important parts of that debate. Yeah I think so. Remarkable is when we saw this image on Saturday. A lot of wondered woody ever play again. I'm encouraged encouraged by the results of the surgery and by the projections. But I don't think we're going to know David you've been through a lot of people have been through it when when when you're a quarterback in the NFL you have to be examined by everyone's teams position. Go back to nick. Saban at Miami. He wanted to bring in drew brees. His doctor said he couldn't you ended up with Dante culpepper. Leaving look at the rest of the world but the injuries suffered he did have a broken finger wants those two ankles surgeries obviously the hip and remember. He dealt with the knee before he had to wear that knee. Brace so you're talking about him being fragile. So what does he have up to show. Or what does he have to prove. 'cause I think longevity and the NFL is not something that we can guarantee that there's now well look at that last play by the way when he gets hurt. I think it's important to note you watch that. I play exactly two as a chance to get rid of the football magic. It's like Aaron Rodgers. He makes that magic and he's going to buy their own away a second earlier as soon as somebody who's beaten down in two and wants to make a great play and he wants to make that homeland plight sometimes just got to throw the football away. I think that's something that he'll have to learn they might not see that again but NFL teams. We'll talk to him about the department that you noted okay to on board Justin Herbert on the board. Who are you taking to club which the hip injury? They didn't even close the accuracy from two in every game he showed is better than Herbert's ever had. Okay well that's the answer basically that all the NFL scouts in organizations going to have to decide the NFL. Let's talk about who we're GONNA talk about coming up on get up Dak Prescott. Tom Brady they face off a huge game Sunday. And we'll tell you why neither of these these guys will be the most important players on the field and with two of falling down the draft wars after that hip injury. We'll ask our experts of what we should learn about. Nick Davis decision to keep them on the field. So everyone feast your eyes on his viral moment from last night the Lakers Maria. We had. That's getting girl. He looked back at agreed. So I'm told there's Rob Gronkowski Ed Popica- Hobby. Oh One and guess who else was then one more star was there last night. James Corden does that all he did he did that. You can't really as we continue. Jeff Saturday in our next half hour. We'll look ahead to the biggest games of the weekend this Sunday. We'll answer the question who is to blame for the injury the to if anyone is and Jalen will be here with his thoughts. I'm Carmelo Anthony's return all that and more as we roll out get up. ESPN are you still wearing your button. Downs on talked and hoping for the best. Then stop it seriously. Seriously because traditional shirts weren't meant to be worn untucked and honestly it shows untuckit believes in helping guys is look sharp and feel casual. That's why their shirts followed the perfect length and were designed for guys of all shapes and sizes taller short slim athletic build untuckit has the perfect fit because everyone deserves a shirt. That looks great untucked. And you shouldn't have to go to a Taylor to get one with untuckit. 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'CAUSE THEY WANNA play soft zone behind it ultimately can brady get the ball out to running running back and let them go after the cowboys and their linebackers. That's what I'm looking for right there. That's going to be the highest rated football game of the season that's GonNa Seahawks Eagles which is a huge food games. Eagles on Lane Johnson getting banged up. We come back and if so can nate protect Carson Wentz. Let's talk about the eagles being a great offensive line. Cloudy coming out party against San Francisco last week. Re Does the same thing these guys get after it can. The Eagles Front give went enough time to complete passes and not take sat and then one more more in a huge NFC showdown packers forty. Niners what do you love. This was a forty niners. Best Defense in the League. Aaron Rodgers incredible pre snap using the cadence to get tips on. How San Francisco wants to play? And can he go. And take advantage of it. He doesn't good a job. As any quarterback I've ever seen US pre snap read using cadence to be able to take advantage of defenses. That's going to be fun to watch. And that is Saturday on Sunday in the meantime let's change it up now. Who Saturday on Thursday canoeing huge game on Thursday night Texans Colts very big game in the AFC? South Jeff. Saturday what are you keeping an eye on. Hi Frank Right just came out and talked about his defense being legit we always talk about their own line but in these defense has played lights out. Here's the thing to Shawn Watson against cover two is is the twenty third rated quarterback. What does indy run the most? NFL cover two. They had two picks against the Shawn Watson before. This is a tough match-up for the shot. He got to be patient. Chink you gotTa have hole throes yet. They have all those kinds of things. Can he be patient against against the colts defense. It's GonNa be fun to watch. He's coming off. Obviously what was a really against against Baltimore last week I I. I'm not giving up under Shawn Watson is my MVP but it's not looking good right now. Do you buy either of these teams long-term as we look at the AFC. Everyone likes New England. Everyone everyone loves Baltimore. I are either of these teams legit super bowl teams. I've probably not super bowl but if I had to pick one as much as you are going to disagree with it. I go with the colts. I think the colts have been. I'm not going to disagree. This Guy Shawn Watson but the colts have been a solid team that you can count on Berries Linen on that defense and healthy such different make difference maker because in part that cover or to put a lot of pressure on Mike linebacker you have to be speedy athletic and also big and physical and he manages to do it all he is the key to that deepens as long as healthy think the defense can play. Well the offense this is Frank Reich. He should coach of the year. Top also I the reason I give them credit. They are playing really well on deepest but oh line they set the tone. Would that offense fits of London. It'd be physical there no matter what price it's backed by rotation jacoby percent has been fantastic. Everybody's bought into these guys. You think about Andrew retiring on them. You're right before the season. It has not derailed this team at all. They're just getting better as the season goes on big game to show you. It is but that's watching the impressive. Because they went from last last season having their head coach quit on them and still having a great season two. This season having their franchise quarterback quit on them and still have a fantastic job that have been going to the hall of fame but there were a couple of makeable kicks away right now from having a very different record and a very different narrative speaking of narratives. I WanNa talk about something else. I WANNA go back to two Tongo. Ah this came up pretty beginning of the show today. He got hurt of course during the wind. Saturday against Mississippi State is going to miss. The rest of the season suffered a dislocated hip with carted off recovering. Looks looks to be about three months for him. I WANNA show you right before we went on the air this morning sky. This is something that has a lot of people from a lot of different walks of life talking. I found this tweet from Chris. Spa Obviously an NBA star so different sports but he tweeted tuition not have been on the Field Alabama and all the adults out there. Where were you when Tua said he wanted to play and Chris Bosh is by no means the only person that I've heard giving sort of a similar thought so I wanted to bring all of our football people in here together various different ways covering this? He's already been Chris. Ross is an interesting person to say that because he didn't want to play with his heart condition and the adults in the room. Say No so. I just think it's interesting. I think they have Chris Bosh in particular. I didn't know if you were going to say well. I hadn't thought of it but it is probably as a good idea to bring that into the conversation. He had a variety of issues and they didn't let him apply. They took his helmet away. If you will to use football terminology David should. There have been an adult that didn't allow to on the field that day. I first of all I god. That's a tough decision. Making you have to be in the locker room to make that decision. I wouldn't have played I wouldn't have. I said that on Saturday on Game Day and I stand behind the border starving part part to me is when you're up thirty five to seven Mississippi state who can't score they can't score okay. They can't at some point. You look at each other and you're like that dude hasn't been healthy. I need to take him out of the game. We this game isn't hand that is. That's the bigger question. I'm fine if he played them. But once you got up twenty one twenty eight and the first half. I think you have to shut him down. You have to get him off the Field Jeff this morning interesting. Yeah I disagree I mean. Here's the thing. Nick Sabin has a way of doing things. Every coach does every head coach has a way of doing it right. He played the week before is GonNa come back. He's GonNa play this week. You do have a huge lead. I agree with that ultimately. You're going to play in the first half. You can work on a number of different things I played. What Peyton Manning? For a longtime franchise Teheran Rogers very rarely if ever that we come out before how we were going to run a two minute drill or a couple of four minute drill. We're going to try to do something even against lesser competition and to get better at our craft. He you're going into game play him. You're not thinking about taking chill out before the half. I'm just saying he never wore but he really really wasn't at Lsu. I'm with you like then it makes sense but you did play him and then you played them the next week so picking lay it all on saving and that decision. It's it's much deeper than that if the if the if the medical staff cleared him and he played that week and he's playing this week. I think it's hard to go at one guy about. Hey should he have. Because you're never going to think the hit man like I. This is awful. He's a fantastic football player. I wish him the you're never gonNA think of hip at that moment. We bring you in here because you've covered so much of of this and so many of his games all that you made the observation today to has really almost never been healthy. Yeah and he's never had time to come back from an injury. I keep saying that I mean after the ankle Injury had about twenty five days until he had to play in the college football playoffs and the same thing happened returning in time for Lsu now that being said. I think absolutely no one is to blame. I think the Alabama uh-huh Athletic Training Staff does an amazing job a phenomenal job of making sure that their athletes are healthy. And these are some of the things you can't avoid Dylan. Moses haven't been able to play all season he's missing his junior season because he tore his ACL ACL in practice. But I think what we have to remember in this moment is when we start having conversations at the end of the season about guys not playing in bowl games or people not wanting to do this and that the this is why because there's millions of dollars on the line and it could happen at any polling here. Well what are you hearing from from the folks who live and die with this first of all. Let's not act like Nick. Sabin been drove up to the hospital in rip this guy out of a hospital room and put him in the game. He didn't couple of people had to sign off on this. The medical staff. Maria said Nick Sabin. And I'm told that Nick Saban wants to two of them mornings at can you play and I know every player says yes but but he gave. He made it to us. Decision and two of made the decision to play the second part of it I think is interesting. Why was he in the game? You answered that. So there there are no peeping point about him him saying can you play. He said yes no player has ever say no even. If they don't WanNa play you have to say that coaches will take that and think he's it doesn't break so I I don't give just getting their narrative on what I'm not someone who's GonNa Blame Nick Saban necessarily but I do think that it's unfortunate if we think about about this in the broader context that he's even having surgery for high ankle. sprains like to me like an unnecessary thing to do. I had a high ankle sprain. I sat for four weeks and then I got got back out there. Nobody was gonna cut me open torn ligament so we can go back to that but if he's going to play in that game I think it's hard. There's no way to predict an ankle. Injury Lit Hippos. Go can't blame favorite because one thing that you can look at with two of this trend to is a guy that makes plays in hold onto the football consistently so what is going to happen. He is going to to be at risk. The Ad Tight road surgery he got rolled up in the LSU games his so many opportunities throughout his career to get rid of the football time and time again he wants to extend in and make plays Jeff as they coach. I have to protect this player against himself. And he did it in the Mississippi state game he didn't Lsu game you have to be able to throw the Y. Whoa you got hurt was holding onto the football so I have to protect him from him? Yeah I was just GonNa say that we've seen it happen time and time again to athletes were an injury compounds in bigger when we saw it with Kevin Durant in the finals. I mean it's just something that happens your body's trying to compensate and you end up doing something much more strenuous much worse when you're out there because he didn't want to fall on his ankle career. Usually you break your ankle now. He falls on his hip and things get worse. So much of this has to be remembered in the context of to being the number one per potential number one pick in the draft and the notion that maybe he was too fragile before this happened. Maybe there was pressure on him in his own. Mind to be on that Field Paul so that. NFL teams didn't look at him as I. I think there's some of that coming from the family but let's not forget who the head coach it. I don't want anybody to get the wrong idea that Nick Sabin is nice guy. Nick Sabin cares about one thing. Winning the football ballgame and unfortunately this case too was the victim of that. I mean fortunately at least four hundred in this case we have is because it's too there's so many other guy many have have so much less power and influence and situation that are putting themselves in these situations and maybe they don't go to the NFL but they are dealing with these long term health issues without healthcare going forward because technically take the first guy. That's been bigger than nick to you. Say to it. Alabama it carries weight. He's always been nick dude over. The last couple of years has been a big big deal quarterback. He's ever had any if you know anything about college football but I'll teach break but we will have on ABC. Maria will be there number six Oregon trying to keep their playoff hopes alive against against Herman and The Sun Devils. It's Saturday night seven thirty eastern on. ABC and you can see it live on the ESPN meanwhile to the hoop we go next. Carmelo Anthony back back last night for the Blazers. What are reasonable expectations? Jalen will be here with that Lord next get up on ESPN We're back on. Get up and here's a statistic. I found fascinating the San Francisco Forty Forty niners are right now about to play the toughest three game stretch in the history of football. This late in the season no team has ever played three straight games needs against teams with an eight hundred plus winning percentage at least in the Super Bowl era. It is the toughest schedule at this point of the season of any team in the Super Bowl era has ever had in this little three game stretch as we look at where everything stands in the NFC. It's important because right now this is essentially an eighteen race for six spots. And if you are you take a look at where all these teams sort of fallen all of that. You could do the math. It is jammed packed. So Dominic Foxworth. I'm going to turn to you. You see the eight names on the screen as well as I do. Only six six of them can make it. who were the two who are not gonNA get invited to this party? I think the seahawks and the eagles I know the seahawks have a very high probability of getting in but I am. I've watched nice to see US play a lot and they win a lot of close games at the end. That's time that luck has run out on them and I think Russell Wilson is fantastic and he certainly should be the MVP conversation behind my mail. Lamar Jackson but the rest of the team is not all that good at deepest is pretty force. They put up some good games and I think the forty niners gave away that game in that situation but I thank they fall apart as the season wears on. Because you can't keep getting that lucky in the Eagles frankly I just don't I don't trust them I don't trust Carson Wentz off. It's of line is weaker. The secondary secondary not good. And they don't have anybody who can stretch feel as far as receivers are concerned. It makes it very difficult for them to move the ball and scored two things. I find really interesting about that. One of them as you have the rams in and I don't hear you were a lot of people who believe in them second and this is the one I want to focus on with Jeff. He has the eagles out. The Eagles were a team. A lot of people were talking about the Super Bowl for began and Carson Wentz this is the MVP. What do you see in Philadelphia? Yeah not going to happen. I agree with Fox. There's no way they're gonNA make the playoffs here. Here's the thing ultimately for them to get in. They gotTa beat the cowboys late and I don't think they're going to beat the cowboys that's ultimately the game. Everybody talks about tell people donning Dungy lied to me about winning right like if they don't all the boys the big game they gotta get it but to Fox's this point there's nothing. The Eagles are doing that. You want to hang your hat on. They don't run the ball effectively. Well they can't protect the passer wins doesn't give you a great accuracy week after we can consistency in play. His numbers look better than the Games in the screw. or so as you're as you're looking at the way this football team plays now the defense. The defense of wine is getting healthy. So they'll help this team get back on track a little bit. I just don't see them scaring anybody and to your point offense when you can't stretch the fueled fueled vertically. It becomes a much shorter. Feel almost like you're playing the red zone every series which is very different. Can we talk specifically about the quarterback because Carson wentz comes in we all know where he was drafted. We all know how well he was trending before he got hurt people talking. MVP before the season began and he got paid are you not buying into Carson Person. Wants no I mean. I'm not selling him necessarily but I don't think that. He has proven himself to be a consistent elite quarterback. I think a lot of I remember his rookie. Year is very first. Game Eh. Had An awesome game. I remember breaking down that game and it was all about the game being made easy for him and setting things up for him. I'm saying that he's grown pat but he hasn't grown to the point where he can put a team that that is severely under talented is what they are on his back. Quick Final Word agree or disagree. Couldn't agree more I think ultimately he hasn't done anything to tell you. I separate my team team because of my play yet. He's gotTa get to that point. I'll say this if the eagles do indeed miss the playoffs that will be one of the biggest disappointments of this. NFL season alright an NBA. A superstar came back yesterday and our own. NBA Superstars either talk about them. Let's go we gotta give the people what they want the new. Yeah and if YOU IF MR O.. Lebron James Taken on the Oklahoma City thunder remember. They've won eleven of their last twelve and LBJ with the deal and he's going to have a hoop but at the end of this to daily bronze as has been fantastic this season career distributive scoring leading all around dominant. And I just like they look back at it before he went up. Just come get me. Try Under fifteen fifteen seconds left and the Brian again get now fill the lane. That's what happens when you haven't played meaningful basketball. Since April two one James is on a mission Russian not only dominate ship. This year seventeen season I think not looking like a young buck out there all right. He's got a double double already. He needs a couple of minutes. Six eighty takes care of that when he had a game high thirty four points and then one more a synthesis nice little pocket trash you sort of pick and roll action. You saw the flare basically to the free time mcdonagh jump shots. Jalen Lebron the first player ever to have a triple double every team in the door work especially since I played thirteen year and a half triple double. Oh that's making history to record mega to Carmelo Anthony. Let's make a record for the first time in over a year and he's going to play a a game jalen back little curl hatching misses his first jump shock. But I like this a flare right here open for three knocks down after kind of actually. He's he's going to get involved with Daimler. Turn exactly dame's out remember back spasms in Anthony again creating a little bit of space for himself getting the step back. The loss. Harvard et rain. Bring it back mellow. Bring everything mellow back. Save Mellow and again look at them. Cutting to the basket tries to jam it. This is when there's no country three policemen. Yeah that was nineteen years old This is a seventy tears mellow after the game with Marc Spears performed tonight that was cool. I'll just happy to be out there. Is You know plan and get number down. According and putting the uniform back on is is. It was an experience that I won't Never Forget. So what did you learn about yourself in the NBA over this past year. I think how how I'm able to motivate people right. I think overall the way that I stay strong in five like I stayed I stayed stay. Did Burn Burn and all I stayed there right so I never I never wavered. I'll stay there. Stay strong and I hope that's motivation. Everybody else I think it's motivation for sure. I before we even get to the game itself. What was it like to Jesse Mellow back on the court again? For the first time over I was really enthusiastic to see it because he's a future. Joe Hall of Famer Maria and I like to see great players like that in particular. Go out on their own terms so now all of a sudden he goes back to Denver when he comes back to New York he's going to be celebrated celebrated as a player and I appreciate it. I know I wanted to see the tour for mellow too. Because he's been in the game so long and done so many great things and in career scoring it's Lebron and it's mellow and now we get to see him playing again. Ten points four or fourteen shooting had four rebounds. What can the trailblazers expect to get from him? Throughout this little stretch for you WanNa get some scoring Upfront Dame Lillard Lurton. CJ mccollum do a lot of pick and roll action. A lot of dribble handoff action. Carmelo Anthony's gotta can knock down a three point shot. Play me range post up against smaller. Matchups he's not. I'm going to be a defensive stopper got that I don't have a lot of heat. Check is so. He's kind of like you on the court like we ain't out here to play. Yes okay does does it. Make him a liability though on defense when he's out there on the floor I don't think is GonNa make him a liability. That's why you got Hassan whiteside to rebound into block shots. Lots of cover up all of the errors that happened on a perimeter. You Will Lamelo to be a score. Portland is five in tune right now. That's their worst start in almost ten years so they need some office. Hopefully mellow can provide Yeah hopefully we see dame back on the court again soon. Mellow was a starter in this matchup. And it's been good to see him play and again i. The late show is the greatest show on earth for most people. Meanwhile on planet Earth daily just take a look at these fans challenges. Good night all man. Like version of low management. Me Right there you gotta take some okay. That's not the first first time though Jalen that he's actually taking a nap. Want you to know yes. I can't front. That's how I am when I go to the movies every single time. It's dark okay. Have comfortable seats but they now serve adult beverages. You can tell he's had a couple different things you pay. What thirteen bucks for that movie ticket? Think he pays face to be sitting right behind the basket at a Lakers falling asleep at the game. You Ain't paying you're right that's what I believe or you're a billionaire. None of those things. That's most certainly happened. Jalen Ellen roadwork and they catch US Jalen tell them NBA countdown. Make sure you check us out this Friday night. We appreciate the law. We are got Stephen a Smith tonight. Yeah Nine we've got some games coming your way Stephen a Smith. We'll get you all set tonight at seven eastern and then after that. You're going to see the Dawn Luca you're GonNa the warriors and you're going to see whether or not he can put up another forty point triple double that's coming tonight We've got an amazing matchup for NBA Wednesday and again. We will see you you on Friday at seven eastern on NBA countdown. Another game. Another record for Lebron James and there is country for old men who on First Aid tells you why a change in the kings game is making the Lakers nearly undefeatable they get up is brought to you by. 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He's tried his dad. Yeah I've got before everybody else does bang to what we're doing and look I mean. I said it before the season started. Lebron James is a a scorched earth tour to remind everybody remember all those arguments you were having last spring. Yeah Buddy the best player in the world is he's he's remembered all that Jeff. Saturday was great to have you here in the bill. Do that again some time Paul. I hope that we gave you some fodder for the phone calls. Today everything will be well and Ryan Clark. We missed you R._C.. My man we will see a lot of today. Thanks for getting up with us. We'll see you tomorrow. The Fun continues with now.

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Hour 1: Michael Eaves filling in

"This is this evening smith show podcast today and we welcome to the stephen a smith show on thursday michael leaves infra stephen today e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. U. sirius x._m. Channel eighty and the e._s._p._n. App wherever you are listening or watching us today. Thank you so much for joining us. Were set to kick off the one hundred n._f._l. Season later tonight with the packers taking on the bears when the most storied franchises excuse me rivalries in all of professional sports. We've got breaking news and adam schefter n._f._l. Insider joins us here right now on e._s._p._n. Radio with the very latest adam your reporting that there's drama in oakland between between the raiders and antonio brown rookie you tell us at this hour basically michael raiders general manager mike mac and wide receiver antonio brown's got into it had to be separated competed word. She's exchanged. Antonio brown's been sent home. The team is planning to spend him. It's the latest chapter in a summer full of them with him and basically burning the speed and the cryotherapy chamber him going through the helmet ordeal him missing meetings and going away from the teams and finding a helmet and now i'm getting into an exchange with mike mag that looks like it's going to lead to him being suspended for at least monday night's game against the broncos maybe longer and of course we saw the social social media post by antonio brown with mike mayock sent antonio brown an official letter <hes> outlining another find that he received in some of the comments and then tonio brown <hes> then posted to that letter on social media and you say they got into it at him. I assume as some type of heated argument. Do you know if it was face to face michael. We are trying to piece this together. The news is just coming on here recently and again. I'm getting what i know. They got into it. They had to be separated their heated words. He's going to be suspended and basically we're gonna see how this shakes out but it's it's obviously very testy situation <hes> the latest drama to a long line of them a long line of them to say the least adam schefter appreciate the time and there. You're still working on the story. We should pay attention to adam on twitter also throughout the day because he's going to be pretty much every show. We have today a as this news unfolds again. Antonio brown gets into it with general manager. Mike mayock they have the broncos coming up on monday night football but according to adam schefter antonio brown has been sent home and the team as of right now is planning to suspend him whether it's just for that one game or maybe multiple games but more drama in the oakland time now for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless so again another chapter in the antonio brown saga that is his his tenure in oakland literally has not gotten to the first game without the potential of not even playing for his new team now through the years in pittsburgh. Antonio brown was always a character right and because he was so successful on the field people enjoyed enjoyed that character that he portrayed whether it's a show or that's who he truly is from a personal -ality standpoint people enjoyed -joyed the antonio brown character because the things he would say how he would play the things he would do but eventually as he became became more successful and became more emboldened within that steals organization he started to do some things that turned off some of his teammates some of his coaches just some of the fans and even people in the media that who that is who antonio brown has been through his career and now you have a continuation of that behavior in oakland the difference in oakland versus pittsburgh and people will tell oh you that the reason that got out of control in pittsburgh is because it didn't get checked and it didn't get checked early enough. It was too late by the time mike tomlin and the organization. Some of the teammates tried to rein in antonio brown trying to change some of his behavior. He was to emboldened in popular. He'd made too much money. You couldn't tell them anything so now. It's time for him to leave pittsburgh but he wants to get paid so he does all this stuff raising all this noise to get out of pittsburgh to go to a team that he'd rather play for the given the money he can be the star he wants to be an all of a sudden boom you get the raiders willing to do it because she got jon bruna second year as a head coach trying to come back and relive that glory. He had his a super bowl winning coach. Mike mayock come out of the t._v. booth to become general manager in the n._f._l. For the first time both of those men trying to make a splash the organization itself there in oakland with mark davis about to leave the bay area to a new use stadium and a new market in las vegas. They needed a marquee player. They needed a star. They needed someone to bring attention because as presently constructed no one believes this team is likely we're gonna make the playoffs right. So what do you have that gonna make us talk about this season and get us hyped about the next season. It's antonio brown. It's the best receiver in the n._f._l. N._f._l. He is a star on the field and he can be a star in the media because of where he plays the game and so you take those two things and and you overlook the potential headaches you overlook the potential potholes you overlook the potential problems that could derail everything when you're trying to accomplish by bringing him there in the first place you wanted him to help your quarterback become a franchise quarterback but if he's not playing how's that gonna help derek carr in week one if he's not practicing enough during the preseason training camp. How is that helping derek carr and your offense. The helmet issue made a big fuss. Just people talk about them. Then he was an ideologue into a crowd the chamber cryotherapy chamber with no socks or shoes on all that leads to him missing practices and work as oh easy oh he's he's a pro bowl. He's an all pro. He doesn't need all those workouts and stuff man. He knows what these do. I got the the best work ethics and all the football that is true but it is they pattern of behavior that tells you something else is involved and that's ego and as being told you can do whatever you want to do for the most part of your professional career and now it's become an issue so we're all going to sit here today. You're gonna call into this evening. Smith show today eight say e._s._p._n. E._s._p._n. eight eight eight seven nine three seven seven six or you're gonna hit me on twitter at michael using you're gonna say we all knew this was happening. We all knew this was going to happen. Who didn't see this coming arken. Jon gruden the mark davis not realize what they were signing with antonio brown. How do they not know right. Everyone's going to say that so clearly. They did know clearly they did know but they thought they could change him or they thought this situation would be different or even beyond that that they had a greater goal in mind and they were willing to put up with a minor headaches what they probably didn't anticipate is that those those headaches would be migraines and they would be constant they would be ongoing and just when you thought they started to dissipate another were the behind it and it would be even bigger than the last one that is what on tonio brown has become for the raiders a never ending migraine headache aac. If you've had a migraine headache you know how it could be. It affects everything you do. It affects your ability a to drive your ability to see your ability to even talk to people right. Antonio brown is a migraine gene for the raiders right now and mike max like yo. We need to do something about it so he is going to prescribe his entire team team medication and that medication is suspending antonio brown. It's to get him away from from the team through the weekend. Most likely maybe we too. We don't know adam schefter against just already to report this news. Just learned it moments moments ago before we came on the air that after that social media post by antonio brown where he posted a picture of the letter that mike mayock sent him outlining second fine nine that the team had handed down to tony brown ex- excess of fifty nine thousand dollars or fifty three thousand dollars. Pardon me and then antonio brown goes over the top like oh. This is how you're trying to treat me the devil july everybody gotta pay blah blah blah blah basically acting like a child a spoiled child who doesn't like being disciplined because how often has he been disciplined. How often has he been checked. How often has he been reminded of what is expected behavior of a professional athlete in a working environment now. It's not the same environment you and i work in. We have different rules rules. Clearly professional athletes have way more leeway in terms of the things they do because of what they do on the field and how much paid the whole thing okay it's different but even in that world there are rules there are expectations and if you are the raiders and you're trying to build a culture a winning culture get back to it one that you had for decades you have an idea of how it should be done and you want it done a certain way and if the guy is not living up to those expectations. You have to take action now. Let's go back though the raiders they you were standing by antonio brown all the way through right with the helmet. Jon gruden came out publicly saying a man personal choice. Guys wanna feel comfortable. We're supporting. He's behind him. He said all the right things even when it came to the feet even when it came aim to frostbite on antonio brown's feat that occurred not because he was doing some off season extertion climbing mount everest because he went to a cryotherapy chamber without socks or shoes or anything covering feet jon gruden went public and said that wasn't even his fault that is how far jon gruden was willing to go publicly to support antonio brown and what did that get jon. Gruden got him a suspended receiver by the name of the same guy he was supporting him and tonio brown. That's what he was doing. He was supporting his guy publicly saying all the right things because he knew the value that antonio brown would bring into his team and jon. Gruden is all about wins and losses right now. That's what he's about wins and losses to quit. He wins the better. It is for his ego. He's got the money it's not the money if he fails coach a network would hire him in a heartbeat he would be on e._s._p._n. Two days after he was fired or decided to retired whatever so it's not about the money for him it is literally about his legacy and his ego. He's about winning. He knows antonio brown can help them do that. But eventually it got to do a cost and mike mayock back on was it august eighteenth sixteenth seventeenth something like that was like he was starting to get fed open antonio brown exact gotta be all in one of the two right and all of a sudden you get a series of events after that boom he gets fined boom all of a sudden it comes out publicly boom antonio brown around says something publicly about that fine and all of a sudden he's starting to isolate himself from the team and things of that nature and then finally mike mayock says no can't do it. There are fifty two other guys here. We're trying to look after we've got to nip this in the bud right now and so going into week one the raiders may not have their best player their best player not even a question. Their best player may not be able to even play week one with his new team. That's where the raiders are right now after going <unk> through all that drama and offseason to get him away from the steelers depend that thirty million guaranteed speaking of the thirty million guaranteed gonna take your phone calls eight eight eight seven nine three seven seven six hit me on twitter at michael filling in for the stephen a. filling in for stephen eight today steven a. smith show if he is find excuse me fia suspended for conduct detrimental to the thima that could put his guaranteed money in the balance. Yes the way contracts are constructed the could be that the suspension would void the guarantees and so the raiders honestly would be able to potentially cut him at any point in oh him nothing nothing further if it is indeed suspension for conduct detrimental to the team now you could go back and say well. How do you prove conduct detrimental to the team who couldn't make that case right now. A freshman law student can make that case right now. Hell a bartender could make that case right now. An accountant an uber driver anybody can make the case then. Antonio brown has been detrimental to his team through conduct over the last four four weeks. Anybody could make that so he goes through all that trouble to get out of pittsburgh to go get new money from another team and a fresh start and the whole deal and he acts a fool and it could cost him his money could cost. Tim is money because he could be suspended for conduct detrimental which would void the guarantees in his contract. I mean they can they can literally do it right now. They say you know what forget the suspension were cutting him in. He would get like a million dollars i think. Is it worth it. If you're the raiders. Is it worth just go ahead and cut them. Because aren't you concerned how he might respond after the suspension or if you're mike mayock jon gruden company mark davis the owner. Are you willing to say you know what he's never really been checked before. He's never really had the discipline that he probably deserved in the past so let's give him that wakeup call and see how he responds. If you respond to the right way it was worth that one game if he doesn't then we know what we can do. We can literally cut him and it won't cost us anything. Maybe like a million dollars but my question to you is. Do you think this wakeup call. We'll work for antonio brown. Do you think this is the thing that makes him. Wake up now. Where you grew up. I'm going to go out on a limb and say there was one person a new either classmate friend family member that was just my momma would say hard headed couldn't tell nothing right. They had to who experience something for themselves. Despite numerous people telling them otherwise joe this is how it should be. This is where you messing up. Stop tripping. Get your stuff together or you're going to be out of something out of a job out of this house out of the school what heavy right just a straight up. Knucklehead hard head can't tell them anything. Antonio brown is a hard head. He's hardheaded. You can't tell them anything because everything in his life that he's overcome told him he you wouldn't be successful right where he grew up there in the miami area how he grew up there in the miami area and all of a sudden he's a multimillionaire right so so all the things in his life that told him he couldn't do something he couldn't do something he overcame those things then. Why would he necessarily listen to someone telling him what he can't do. Because sometimes you can't tell the difference between criticism and hate sometimes. You can't tell the difference between criticism and support. Antonio brown is hard headed. You can't tell him anything. He has to experience it for himself. He has to experience it for himself. Is this suspension the wakeup call that he needs and also the wake up call that will work again adam schefter on the program moments ago saying that mike mayock got into it with antonio brown and that the team is thinking about suspending bending him for this first game source tells e._s._p._n.'s you'll see an anderson that brown got into an argument during wednesday's practice and it happened in front of the team team so this wasn't just in the office somewhere on a corner of locker room on the training room sequestered some place away practice in front of the whole team now again. We don't know how long this suspension will be one one game two games three games but here's some context for you. According to the n._f._l.'s collective bargaining agreement player can be suspended a maximum four weeks for conduct detrimental to the a team so it's up to the league to determine gives me up to the team to determine how long a player should be out based on conduct that is detrimental to the team so i asked if this suspension is the wakeup call that antonio brown needs is one game enough should be two games. Should it be three games. What do you think antonio brown needs to change his act and if you are the raiders raiders. What are you willing to do to get to that point where he is the player that you needed and wanted in your organization. That's straight talk wireless everything for less only at walmart so i wanna take your phone calls. Eighty eight say e._s._p._n. That's eight seven to nine three seven seven six and also you can hit me on twitter at michael ease but also coming up today on the stephen a smith show damian what is going to join us a little bit later. Get his take on antonio brown of course but also some other things run the n._f._l. Because we're we're supposed to be talking about gains today but here we are dealing with antonio brown nonsense right. That's what's happening right now so we're going to get back to some n._f._l. N._f._l. stuff but we're also going to be joined by derrick rose n._b._a. Player force former rookie of the year former league m._v._p. Went through two devastating knee injuries injuries and some other issues during his life but still love the game so much that he's willing to play it in any role for team that will have them right now and be successful successful in that role derrick rose is going to join us next here on the stephen a smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. U. michalis stephen today. That's coming up. I want to hear your take on the n._f._l. I want your favorites for the upcoming season. I want all of that today and i know you have stuff to say about antonio brown. We're gonna get to it. I promise you but i don't wanna focus on antonio brown too much today because we're we're supposed to be talking about good stuff in here. He is with his behavior once again. Sabotaging well should be a fun day for a lot of n._f._l. Fans sabotaging this radio meal show 'cause we have plans to do other stuff today but here we are talking about in tonio brands as what we have to do positive stuff about the n._f._l. Fell today throughout this. We're going to get damien woody. I promise you on that. I want from you as well and also derrick rose. We're gonna bring some enlightenment to the show and some other guards. We're not talking about antonio antonio brown. That's all coming up. Stephen a smith show here in e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. You hey folks if you're sending your kid off to college this fall. Remember that there's one thing college students need more than books or pencils or instant noodles awesome. 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The ease i get to some of those comments at a moment going to be joined by derrick rose momentarily talk about his new book and also some other basketball related topics but i do want to take you back to the news of the moment right right now and that is the raiders planning to suspend antonio brown prior to their week one game against the broncos monday night football adam schefter joined on his own on the stephanie smith show ravensdale manager mike mac and wide receiver antonio brown's got into it had to be separated heated words. She's exchanged. Antonio lebron's been sent home. The team is planning to suspend him. It's the latest chapter in a summer cold them with him basically burning the speed and the cryotherapy chamber him. I'm going through the helmet ordeal missing meetings in going away from the teams and finding a helmet and now getting into an exchange with mike mac. That looks like it's going to lead to on spending for release monday night's game against the broncos maybe longer that was adam schefter join us here on the stephen smith show just moments ago whoa justin anderson also reporting that the confrontation the argument between mayock antonio brown actually happened on the practice field in front of the the entire team more on that story coming up later here on e._s._p._n. Radio and e._s._p._n. News the stephen a smith show but join us now for n._b._a. Rookie of the year and also former n._b._a. Most valuable valuable player and he's got a new book out route right now that you can get on amazon and other fine book retailers. I'll show you derrick rose georgia's here on e._s._p._n. Radio and e._s._p._n. New york what's up man how you doing it was so good. Thanks for having me on your platform. Hey no problem man when i was told that you were putting a book out derek. I have to say hey. My first response was that i was surprised because you have been a very low key guy your entire career both both professionally and personally and to write a really compelling book. You have to be expressive and you have to share things. You probably weren't comfortable sharing in the past. So what compelled you right this particular book you know i wanted to tell my story in my own wirt <hes> in the past. I felt like i was too young. I wasn't mature gra at the time to actually tell the story that my story the way that i wanted to or to combat the criticism that i was getting at the time like i wasn't within ready for that at the time but now <hes> now that i'm in your twelve and i see that i have a huge <hes> fan base and they all just just want to hand side on <hes> things do on everyday basis or whatever it is <hes>. That's why i wanted to put out the documentary like a couple of months ago and and now <hes> i'll put out a book out of nowhere some that i just wanted to add to my resume among portfolio. You'll have not read the entire book derek. I'll i'll admit that but i've read some snippets bits from it and one of the things i noticed that that you talked about is telling your own story and you felt as if at times the media maybe especially the media in chicago wasn't not only only telling your story but also leading fans to believe a certain narrative about you that you felt was not true. Let me ask you this. Though how much do you think that had to do with the fact that you you were pretty introverted introverted throughout your career and you didn't share about yourself with the media and fans and they were able to think about you. They want it now that true but at the same time i knew that i was gonna have is day or a day. They're always going to be able to tell my story my way and ended up being twelve years later <hes> <hes>. I think that i had time to really think about everything reflect on just my life the situation that are in that i was in early on in my career and <hes> just learned from like i felt like a mandate. All the relationships have like from chicago able to if i really wanted to <hes> to go oh back there and work out there and they're facility because they have the best facility in chicago <hes> and new york. I still have a good friendship with a relationship with the meals my agent an tarp them all the time <hes> cleveland after they cut me me and my friend was in a gym that same night after they released me because the team was on the road and they were on the roof like five days we were up there the four four out of the five days and so they came back then we move cleveland state and kobe do this so i felt like i did a great job <hes> with men in all those relationships even <hes> through the ups and downs and <hes> again got me to wearing right now derrick rose former n._b._a. Most valuable player join us here on the stephen. A smith show e._s._p._n. Radio michalis linda for steven a. Today you mentioned a couple teams teams there derek were you got cut and you were a three-time all-star m._v._p. You had the bulls in the eastern conference finals a chance to go to the n._b._a. Finals you had a devastating injury. You had another knee injury. You've had four surgeries in a very short period of time and you get cut by teams. You're on the ascension derek to be a hall all of famer. I mean that is not how that is and i'm sure you knew that as well and then all of a sudden you have these injuries in these heartbreaks and these personal or should say professional fashionable failures getting cut by the respective teams going through all of that derek ya. What were those moments like for you and did some of those days become really dark. <hes> of course <hes> i felt very motion you could think of but <hes> to talk on the hall of fame thing <hes> i am a hall of famer and and not everybody is but to the people that i grew up with my guy made it executed. I got to where i was at. I ban having these same expectations. I have so now they were throwing them in sixth grade. I teased all get through all that <hes> imagine like being twelve or thirteen and and everywhere you go people are like putting like their burdens on you like man you were going to be the one to make it. You know you have like you going to be the one sure to you. The one like what like when i was younger i used to always like prayer light because when people used to say things like that i felt like they were jinxing me and <hes> it was just it's a weird position than being and now looking back at it. I'm just happy that i had a the the mentors i had <hes>. I was open at all knowable enough not to talk to people when it was uncomfortable and i got through it. What did it take you to get to that point derek that you were comfortable talking about things that previously easily made you uncomfortable to discuss <hes>. I think my mom like my mom like being around her. <hes> we tend to like we're very independent and when we have time we'll go through times. We shut everybody. Oh oh and we we feel like we can handle everything ourselves and i think i got that from her where <hes> during that time. I never worried read about basketball my problems. We're always like off. The court like white friendships right like i had one of my friends. Tell me that he had to step away from me because of off like the because we're in the hoc- that the time and at the time i didn't feel are then like i couldn't cover hand now. I couldn't understand it because it was like grow. We got this bar like with like through to know. We get this far why you stepping away now but those were the things that i was worried about ni- i basketball derrick rose has a new book out called. I'll show you you can get it on amazon and other fine book retailers right now former m._v._p. With the bulls goals and play for several different teams throughout his career especially as of late so what makes you still want to keep playing basketball at this point <hes> you know i had to change my perspective on perception like <hes> of course i love the game <hes> when you when you're in a game and you learn a business for someone like the way that i grew grew up. <hes> you learn the business side. I like draw back a little bit because you start to see that you just see the business side of it and <hes> my perspective has changed because i had to change from it had to go from me. Actually lie purely just loved the game to understand the game to our right. I'm so solely only doing for my kids like <hes> like during the time that i was thinking about return <hes> i thought about my my son and i thought about how he wouldn't be able to like come to the games before like to shoot around with me to work out with me before <music> games like i was taking that away from him and i was being selfish and <hes> i had to grow up basically and just stick it through what was rock the bottom for you <hes> rock bottom. I will have to say like i say i never worried about basketball. It was always just friendships and and <hes> friendships going through turmoil with <hes> just being in chicago going places people talking there. It was just a lot to go during allentown. I'm gonna ask you a little perspective and advice for someone else. <hes> dwight howard just redid the lakers for a second time and he recently said head that he hit rock bottom and that changed his perspective on things and when you say that term it can mean so many different things for different people with his career wise personalized. What have you for years e._s. For derek <hes> for derrick rose hitting rock bottom and continuing on in pursuit of still playing basketball or being the spores family. What advice would you give dwight howard. Who's now in a somewhat similar position trying to do the same thing basketball wise there in los angeles. I will have to say <hes> be patient derek. How how hard is it to be patient and senator who you work or are you are pardon me i'm saying everybody's different though to each his own bomb samper for me my advice to someone someone knows my or i didn't know at the time i was gonna do everything that my my biggest like. Blessing was my calmness amnesty like i was always wonder like man like minutes profession. I have to be an extrovert have to be social. I have to do all this stuff because this is required. I'm thinking this was required from me right but little did i know is i know like be who you are. You're quiet. I didn't know what it was until i was like in my twenties this whole time. I didn't know i had to go back to my room and recharge. I'm thinking everybody had to do this or everybody's fatigued the way as little things that you know so. That's why that's why i say maturing like. I didn't know nothing about that are very burst of like low. Things like that helped me. A long way understand who i was as a person as a man and one is a black man. What does this book do for you in terms of writing it and be able to express yourself and get certain certain things out. What did this moment do for you. It was solely for my fans. You know i'll have a huge fan base everywhere i go. I have people that relate to me or just get a feeling or vibe from me from some way somehow and i never opened up to anyone like the way that i did <hes> or like. I'm doing all right now and <hes> this is just a little insight on who i am as a person. I feel like i'm very complex person. You could put everything in the book about wanting to give you a visual. That's put out the documentary. I'm giving you a book so you'll be able to read it and you never know what the future may hold because i have a lot of content derrick rose host. The name of the book is i'll show you he has documentary called poo which people in the neighborhood. That's what they've called him. Since he was a kid. You can go to amazon right now and pick it up and also <hes> some other fine retailers around the country. I'll show you by derrick rose. Derek appreciate the time. Thanks for hanging out with us on the stephanie. Smith show in better luck next season. Thanks for having only on your on your platform. I appreciate it man. <hes> stephen a smith show e._s._p._n. Radio e._s._p._n. You you can join the conversation eight eight eight say e._s._p._n. Eight hundred eight seven ninety nine three seven seven six. We will get back to you antonio brown discussion. Adam schefter was on with us earlier. The team is thinking about suspending him going into week one. They opened up monday night. Football the second game of our double header on e._s._p._n. Against the broncos and adam schefter is also reporting that there's a thought prevalent around the league right now that the writers could even go as far as cutting antonio brown because they could do it based on conduct detrimental to the team and they would not be on the hook for that thirty million dollars ars in guaranteed money. That's all coming up next on the stephen smith show when it comes to hiring you don't have time to waste. You need help getting to your shortlist of qualified candidates fast vast. That's why you need indeed. 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Mike you're on the stephen smith show michael how you doing i'm and also shot off stephen name the show every day yeah okay so hey is this an episode of last chance you like. That's that's how i feel with a._b. And i think he's an incredible talent but do you do. You have the potential to make so much money. Be humble. Sit down man be cool. You know what i mean. How you gonna prove yourself with big ben. I feel like there's a lot of pressure on mike appreciate the call <hes>. Here's what you have to understand sitting down and being humble is not what has made antonio brown successful okay. That's not what made antonio brown <hes> an all pro receiver. That's not what made antonio brown a potential hall of famer. That's not what made antonio brown who came from very poor conditions a multimillionaire. It makes sense but i'm telling you if you didn't grow up that way if that's not what made you successful. That's typically not to how it's gonna play out. Hey folks be sure to prep your engine for winter with pennzoil synthetic motor oil the first motor oil made from natural gas not crude oil. The proof is in the pennzoil. Mike tanenbaum former n._f._l. G._m. one of our colleagues here now at e._s._p._n. We're talking about the potential that the raiders could not just suspend antonio antonio brown but cut him entirely not oh him at thirty million dollars in guarantees so here's the deal the significance of the suspension according to tanenbaum and also some of the language we were discussing earlier. Here is that twenty nine plus million dollars in contract guarantees. If he's on the active roster on opening day his fourteen point six million dollar nineteen twenty nineteen eighteen salary becomes guaranteed because he's a veteran okay now here's the difference they could suspend him and then release him and then that way they would owe him nothing in terms of guaranteed money the raiders in all likelihood according to mike tannenbaum will probably try to recoup that one million dollars signing bonus as well so all this stuff from antonio brown could literally cost him all the money that he fought so hard to get by trying to get out of pittsburgh all that money could be gone john because he's been a knucklehead because he's hard headed because you can't tell them anything because he's gonna do things antonio brown's way even if the flies in the face of the organization that paid the money to begin with and that's why so many people have such a hard time rooting for antonio brown coming coming to his defense in any regards because of these things right here because of what he did in pittsburgh to get out and how his career in oakland was starting and it may not even start because of those antics coming up next damien woody joins us here in the stephanie smith show and also still taking your phone calls eight say e._s._p._n. 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Hour 3: Back In My Day

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Hour 3: Back In My Day

"To God's ear. February isn't just about one supersized football game on Spotify. There's thousands of free sports podcasts. That agonize over the preseason off seasons in plano, regular seasons of nearly every sport imaginable, basketball, baseball, hockey, soccer, curling, and even hurling. Yes. That is a real sport. Now. It's so easy to stay updated with the latest trade. Rumors predictions and scorching hot takes from some of your favorite games. Biggest names so take in one episode at a time and get one hundred ten percent of your attention to the thousands of free sports podcasts on Spotify. Because the best offense is a good podcast. I don't think that we've had quite. As strange and distorted a symbol for the modern age of social media in sports, then Antonio Brown and his inability to stay off it Antonio Brown. Eliminating any need for media by making his own announcements on things on social media. He has now broken the news that in the Rooney's met, and that they've agreed to part ways. All the news. We're getting about Antonio Brown is coming from Antonio Brown spent the weekend taking out Ben Rothlisberger while saying look respect. But I was tired of the owners mentality where he was calling me out for everything. And what I wanted to ask you guys as it relates to Antonio Brown. He's turning thirty one here during next season. And given the nature of his trouble where he's making this public mass where you know begins. I guess sort of with Mike Tomlin saying no one's to be on social media. Next thing, you know, in the locker room Antonio Brown is doing something live wild Tom Lennon's talking about that. And he's he's doing a lot of different stuff on social media. He clearly craves fame Stu got. Because you've seen him on on the Dan shows was he on mass singer Billy was on mass like he clearly craves fame. And the thing I wanted to ask you guys is this for all the analysis that you hear on your Brown and diva and whose fault is it Ben Ben or him or lady on or what's the matter with the Steelers. I put I pose you guys this question because this is the almost the greatest distortion of diva that we've seen since Terrel Owens at this position and terro, and do, you know, the backstory there's God he was raised by his grandmother's grandmother was often drinking. He. Caged in his front yard. He learned who has sister was one day when he developed a crush on the girl across the street, and he was told you cannot have a crush on her. She is your sister from that childhood came guy who enjoyed only Sundays in the end zone and wanted to be a male model and Tonio Brown was homeless in Miami at sixteen I've talked to him a couple of times about it. He's uncomfortable talking about some of the details. He's shut it down talking about some of the details. He refuses to talk about it with me anymore. And I asked you guys this question when someone's coming from that background where it sixteen your unloved. You're homeless your unloved. How much of this stuff is him? Just looking for love in the places in the ways that he discerns it with attention with you know, carving his own message. I know I'm going pop psychology on you. But there are a lot of guys in the NFL who've had rough backgrounds there aren't a lot who were homeless at fifteen. Right. I mean, I'm sure it factors in I have. I have no doubt that that factors. AM him looking for some sort of. Yes. Some love for people to respect him for people to want to have him in their huddle. This is a tricky one because he has acted in a way that he should not be acting. And regardless of all the things that have led up to this day. He should know better than to do some of the things that he's done here. Whether it's taking up band or better, these homeless who'd be teaching it. No better. But then when my Tomlin saying, hey, no, social media. And while he saying it you're on social media whether you are homeless or not at the age of sixteen. That's just hey, my boss is asking me. No, social media is my Tomlin's boss. Antonio Brown makes twice what his boss does it year three times what his boss does the year is Mike Tomlin, actually, his boss or is. He has his administrative assistant. I think he's probably the boss. I mean, I mean is he though because I think he's about all I know is that he wanted someone to play games seventeen game sixteen and that person didn't play boss I came on very badly for someone to play at the end of the season wasn't playing. So right. Antonio brown. Didn't play Antonio Brown, regardless of everything that's happened in his life. It still showed up for that raised. It's as unprofessional thing as you'll ever see. But I'm thinking that he doesn't think of Mike Tomlin is his boss when he's refusing his order there to show up for the game. But Tomlin does have the power to also bench him to to not. Doesn't have that power though. That's what's funny. He has the power, but he'd never use right, drew. So it's not a real power. I it's leverage. It's not a real power. How many times vengeance on you Brown on the last game season most recent executive he did he bench him or didn't Tonio Brown just stopped showing up for work today. Antonio Brown leave him. No choices probably another debate. But yeah, it's it's his decision as head coach. He runs the football operations. You know, the decisions I understand. But does it feel right now? Like Antonio Brown thinks Mike Tomlin is in any way. His boss doesn't seem like he's answering. Anybody at this moment Antonio Brown. I think it's interesting two things. Number one. What's his market value at age thirty one? And I'm not sure if he merits high first round draft pick. I I don't know that the market is going to be as great as he hope he's he's a great contract at twelve million a year, and he just he just led the NFL this past season and touch catch and a year ago the team according to I think it was Chris Simms. I read over the weekend. End of the team that was most aggressive in pursuing Antonio Brown was Bill. Ballot. Check in the patriots. He he wasn't great contract. That's the correction here. Because typically when someone does this this is a financial play. But Antonio Brown got his money. So a lot of people were struggling to figure out what the smell. He wants more money once more he wants more guaranteed money, and he wants to change his nickname to make Mr. big chest. That's what he's saying on social media. And he's coming off six hundred yard catch seasons hundred catch seasons in a row. So he he's in his prime right now. Even at thirty one. I'm also fascinated by the psychology of all I really think that with a lot of people for various reasons social media is a psychological addiction. We see coming out of the White House, and we see a trickling down to athletes, and in this case, you mentioned the homeless factor when he was a kid, I think that absolutely factors in you know, he's got an unfiltered platform to say, whatever he wants. And that's powerful. We have audio of Mike Tomlin sort of explaining walking the media through. Through the decision to not play in Tonio Brown. The final week of the regular season woke up Sunday morning and got a call from his agent. Drew Rosenhaus drool express that he was feeling better. And that he will potentially be able to participate outlined the drew that decisions were made like that. But I would be interested in visiting with him in person that stadium prior to the game. But playing on the menu. Okay. So Mike Tomlin decided that. And let me ask you guys this question because this is in Tony Brown being afflicted by watching all of this basketball player movement player empowerment, and realizing that he's a bit of a star and wants to be more of a star. Because I understand what you guys are doing. They're telling me that Mike Tomlin is Antonio Brown's boss, but is Alvin gentry Anthony Davis boss because I just want to know where you guys draw the line on this is Luke Walton LeBron James's boss like where do I have to put Antonio Brown? Wants that basketball power. He's making the basketball mess. Right. He's getting himself traded when they don't actually want to trade him. So where is the line on how good someone has to be before you guys are willing to accept that? They are acting as administrative assistance for the business of LeBron James, Anthony Davis or whomever else that basically after games if they haven't played well, Anthony Davis should make Alvin gentry run the sprints. The different sport. Right. Where one guy has more power. And that's Boorda means more in that sport that in any other sport. But Antonio Antonio Brown is clearly he's clearly being influenced by the idea of wait a minute. I have power here. Tom Brady's doing the same thing in forty realizing. Wait, I have actual power. And the Steelers saying, no, we have the power go. Elsewhere will win with juju Smith Schuster. That's what the Steelers are saying. I mean, well, the difference with Antonio Brown to and LeBron James LeBron James had problems with his coaches Antonio Brown seems to have the problem with Ben Rothlisberger. And he's on good terms with ownership to the point that they're meeting with each other, which is the main difference. I guess between LeBron wanting to run a team and Antonio just saying, listen, I'm out of here in unlike in the NBA Antonio Brown doesn't have the power to get together with a couple of buddies and former super team he's he's just more of a a solitary man, but he has the power to make enough of a mess that the Steelers are trading a very valuable piece under good contract that they don't wanna trade possibly for below market value. You cannot tell me. That that's not real power. You guys can tell me all you want about the constructs how they're different between, football and basketball. You will not convince me that he has not seen. What's happening in basketball knows that his money is guaranteed and can do whatever the bleep he want including wreck the Steelers season at the end. But does he have the power to demand? What team he is traded to? That's a key question. I mean. Yeah, he said if your team's got guaranteed money. So that seems so yes. But if he's if he's traded to buffalo he's another right now he can do right now. If I I'd be careful with nothing you can do right now. Given what lady I'm bell? Just didn't. I'd be careful with nothing. He could do right now. Twenty seven I mean Antonio Brown's thirty one he's got a few years left with this kind of earning power. He can also do a bunch of stuff in his free time like dancing with the stars and make some money because he's been willing to do that before. So God's ears. Nice to have a helping hand especially when it's act season. And that hand is attached to a licensed tax professional, but turbo tax live you talk to real CPA's. And e as on-demand who can reveal your return with you before you file and make sure you're getting your maximum refund. That's very very important. They can even check your work line by line. So you could be confident it's done, right. Who knew confidence and peace of mind could be synonymous with taxes. Turbo. Tax live would CPA's in e as on-demand. See details at turbo tax dot com. Donlevatar you gonna get real stugatz. I'll get. Real these live at our show with his two guys on ESPN radio, Greg Cote. He's back in my day in fifteen minutes need to preface what I'm about to say with a very Stu Godsey, and I have not read anything in this article. So I don't know anything more than the headline. I'm reading to you. But I do think it's emblematic of where we've arrived in two thousand and nineteen and how it is that we teach people about American history. I am reading a headline from simply celebrity that says John Wayne's nineteen seventy-one playboy interview draws heat. And I'm trying to figure out who's more dead playboy or John Wayne. Wow. I like honest to God, we're resurrecting a nineteen seventy-one interview on John Wayne was a was a was a racist. Elvis was a hero to most. But he never meant bleep to me. All Africa headline out of you straight up racist that sucker was. Simple and plain mother bought to believe him and John wait. Like, I mean public enemy was thinking about this long time ago, and we're reser how long ago to John Wayne dot. Second on it, Greg. This is your wheelhouse. If as ago, I was a young man when John Wayne, John Wayne. It left us in one thousand nine hundred seventy nine. Doing my Tom Cruise days. I wanna read to you guys. Here Darren reveal such a bad job by you, man, Tom Cruise days, you're calling back joke you or making from two hours ago when people had you looking like Tom Cruise in your youth. And we realized that you weren't young at the same time Tom Cruise was shot. E worse. So this is from Darren rebels got right? Sl cover ten years ago today. It's a rod on sports Illustrated's cover, and the headline is the latest and greatest to fall. And you remember this story, right? There was the awkward interview with Peter gammons. I remember hearing about this story. Yeah. I certainly did read it. And so what Darren rebel is saying is that he is not sure the sports world has seen a greater comeback ever than than Alex Rodriguez. And I'm not sure how he's measuring comeback is getting on ESPN the comeback. Because Cody does that he's not worth a bleep like what what what is the comeback for era that he's dating J lo and he's allowed to not be persecuted figure anymore. I mean, we kind of the boat sailed on that. Right. Like Barry Bonds was Mark Maguire they work in baseball or they have worked in baseball. It all starts with jaylo. Okay. Let's be very clear. It starts with dating jaylo. That's that's where his popularity starts. But Dan, he's he's like a lot of people aren't doing a rod as a punchline is a joke anymore. They are taking him seriously reason, they're not doing that. As. Because they've stopped caring about steroids. We we we wore them out on the steroid front. We only care about steroids. And evidently as it applies the Lance Armstrong now, right? But plus he's dating J lo he's doing Sunday night baseball. He's doing some other interesting stuff. Then you get social media with him teaching kids play stickball in a park. I mean, it's cute. I mean run he is turned Kim. It's amazing. And he's become cuddly in a way that Barry Bonds doesn't have that same amount of cuddly 'nice, Mark McGwire? Sammy sosa. Yeah. They all have varying degrees of reintegration into society, but they're not being celebrated in a way that Iran is way more likable now than he was even before the steroids say Charles Barkley says this all the time because he's been hosting SNL here for a while. And he's well past his prime as as both a broadcaster, and an athlete, right? Like the prime years of Barclay being shocking. And he's like he's just talking about the idea of the way people respect them. And they're like people are weird about television. You put you put endeared ORF on television. Boom. Let's get him in the hall of fame. You put John Madden on television. Boom. Let's build a video game empire around. Like television is weird in terms of the stickiness. It has on people. And maybe it is a Rod's greatest comeback merely that ESPN will employ him. But I mean. I mean, come on. What can all the people waiting? Why we employ a whole lot of people. He is really he's really dreamy though, and charming. I think it's that. All right. Put it on the poll at lebatardshow is a rod cuddly. And then follow up question is a rod dreaming to me. It's it's a bigger comeback. Because a rod was a convicted steroid user much more than than Clemens and bonds ever were convicted by band for years from the sport. Right. Well, that my baseball that part is fairly amazing. I mean, the the movie that Billy Corgan is doing I don't know when it's going to appear it's going to be soon. Good God is it going to make you laugh about what a clown show baseball and Miami work together and how Ryan Braun and Manny Ramirez and era and all of these guys were doing something like through the the bogus here. Like just how ridiculous it was that these two hundred million dollar contracts. We're going to people who were who were behaving. In clown car behavior. And it's just a rod saying, according to this. I'm not going to say any more. You could watch the movie it's called screwball. And I I was fairly amazed by what it is that they were able to do with it. Because all of this are able to sixty homers while they were able to do it through drug dealers at a tanning salon in polka like. That's correct. Baseball was never healthier. Steroids were medicine. Everybody was becoming Browner through a tanning salon in Boca cody's back in my day. Next. Gyco presents unhelpful home improvement. How To's a slippery bathroom floor can result in expensive hospital bills? So today, I'll show you how to cook a serious fall by filling your bathroom with thousands of plastic balls. Just now a piece of plywood across the doorway and dump in two thousand multicolored plastic balls, you could try to protect yourself with a bathroom full of plastic balls or you could get liability coverage through the Geico insurance agency. Visit Geico dot com and see how a forcible renter's insurance can be done. Lebatardshow? Am I holding Cody back because we get this all the time when cody's on corn is a show when he's outside the lines when he's on Mike and Mike he gets a lot of response. Wait a minute. You are a journalist. You're good at this to God's. Well. I think of myself as a professional chameleon if I'm in a blue room. I turn blue if I'm. If I'm in technicolor room. I looked like the Jeff Gordon logo. If Kornheiser wants to ask me a really serious question. I'm going to answer in kind if I'm on with somebody who wants a young and up I'm gonna put on a party hat. You know saying? Live at our show with Stu gods on ESPN radio. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Guests on the Dan lebatardshow appear via the shell Pennzoil performance line. Here's your sports center update ESPN's Jeff passan is reporting that Manny Machado has agreed to a deal with the San Diego Padres. No terms have been announced name and other Padre dairy. Those numbers matter. The the news is one thing Machado to the Padres is one thing the number. I'd be curious as Ps and Caesar there and free agency has has shut down. Discover Hoffman's still flip the butters. We can have some fun naming that entire team. I feel like we could go back and do nag it Eddie. Cotonou king of steroids. That guy I taught Consejo. The English Football League has fine lead United Georgia thousand pounds for spying on Darby counties training sessions. Therby though, this dog whatever and finally in nineteen year old name Budweiser was placed under arrest for trespassing at the Budweiser brewery at Saint Louis, it's wiser it's not wiser it's Wieser. Police say wiser entered a secured area at the brewery at after six pm on Thursday security officers told them to leave and he called police after an altercation wise, it was taken into police custody. There over four hundred crush decimated in pulverized, grapes. Cram the each bottle of Welch's grape juice, which pretty much leaves no room for anything else. No added sugars, no added flavors and definitely no mercy. The world's toughest antioxidants. Welches toughest grapes for all the way to headlines information during the sportscenter on ESPN radio all throughout the day. We have talked precious little capper Nic around here for the better part of eighteen months. But you folks who are climbing out of the woodwork saying that you demand more martyrdom from him that he shouldn't cash in any way, he's got to be more of a martyr and then when he actually becomes an actual martyr. You guys will move the goalposts then to why didn't he die better? Like, I don't know what you guys are doing. He got the bag of money. He shamed. The NFL that went after Tom Brady with zeal to destroy his heroism, and he made it look to all like he has been blackballed. Literally blackballed from the league in a way that the owners were scared of him and thought they were going to either lose that collusion case or that they were gonna get embarrassed when the depositions became public. I don't see how anyone could look at this as a win for the NFL. It's like people wanna capture knit together remainder of his life without earning. A cent. But border on their behalf. It's one thing to spend other people's money. It's another thing entirely demand. They become martyrs for you. More mortars for you total victory for camper. Nick, lawyers have told me and one of them are married to collusion is one of the hardest things to prove it would have been very difficult. But yet the NFL settles in a way that left capper Nick smiling when it's not a total victory unless he's allowed to play again, because I know many of you are not satisfied with this form of martyrdom. You're not allowing for the fact that it kinda had to hurt to have two years of your prime in athletics. Ism right taken. When to all the collusion case could have been proven just by bringing Nathan Peterman into the courtroom the way that they brought those airmen into a few good men seems like an open and shut case. Ken Rosenthal is reporting ten years three hundred million. Wow. Audra? That concludes our analysis of this while while Padres, I mean, we could make that a song right there. That is Greg Cody and Stu got jumping into action to react to the news while while Padre. What's that twenty five million a year time now for Greg cody's back in my day? Now in these to take the menorah lane. Here's your guy. Rick could he with back in my day? Men's socks. Back in my day. You basically had a couple of basic types of men's socks white athletic socks with two stripes on top for sneakers and black socks for dress shoes. Have you noticed a trend and socks? Now. Everything is about excessive variety. So boutique sought companies bloom across the landscape, the only thing in America. We haven't found a way to really reinvent the wheel after learning that experimental square and triangular tires that much lower mileage men socks have been reinvented as fashion statements or other bizarre reflections of personality. I did a quick search. This is all true. You can buy George H W Bush tribute socks socks promoting Alzheimer's awareness and other causes bright yellow socks with Cheetos logo, one company offers would have caused the scientists sock pack with designs, including rocket ships and constellations, the hipster Ville pack includes socks featuring silhouettes of handlebar moustache. Another company specializes in crazy print designs operates under the slogan. Socks can be so much more, which I reply. Yeah. But why do they need to be their socks? It seems a little odd to want to make a statement at something very few people. See if you're wearing long pants who notices sucks. It's like having a tattoo on your ass. How many people get to enjoy that? Really? It was bad enough. Having to choose among styles of socks. No-shows ox ankle socks. Calf socks therapeutic Nissan's cotton or nylon or blends? But at least the problem was black or white now with all the myriad colors designs and statements one needs an entire walk in closet. Just for his damn socks. I'm a salesman less. We lost them. Gila Cutty account was late for a big meeting. Paralyzed by sock indecision weeping in my bedroom. Folks, if your feet could talk that tell you don't over think it. Nope. Get back to basics when you're not around your shoes are talking among themselves saying the same thing they want to run and hide when you fill out those socks student with wine glasses and cigars honor your feet and shoes treat, right? The old dogs that have carried to your whole life slip on. Pair of old school black socks and revel is people look at you admiringly and say if you couldn't taller I'm Greg Cody, and that's how it was back in my day. Well, done wasn't. Villi? Can you put up the poll there? He is. He's done for the show, which is. Thing and waving like a prom going the rest of the show up. Just put it on the poll is Bryce Harper going for three hundred million and one cent. Like he's going to he's going to get a little more than Manny Machado Phillies. Right. The reports where it was three ten right for the Phillies. I mean, Philly's got a seal that up, right? See obey. Because just because I mean enough rice Arbor you wanted over three hundred million dollars. We've offered you three ten the nationals off three hundred c obese on it with each passing hour workday could five million off the deal about that. How old is Michelle is he twenty twenty six how old is he because this is not the pools contract. They gave ten years to pools, and it was two hundred million then two hundred twenty twenty six so Machado was twenty six years old. This is a slight market correction in that for a while there. The baseball was giving those giant contracts to Kevin Brown's two guys who are in their thirties that doesn't seem like it's going to happen much anymore where you're giving one of these guys like pools is still lumbering around as their phase angels. Yeah. It's pretty amazing that the Padres landed free agent light this, right? It's usually the Yankees the cubs. The dodgers the Red Sox who are spending. They were to be in play for both Machado and Harper. They clearly have they have some money over there. But they've got don't they have similar ballpark issues over there in San Diego where they're fighting over the ballpark. I like this thing that's going on with baseball is interesting the way that it is. That under Manfred tutelage. It's basically the thread holding everything together is well baseball's pretty random, and you might be able to win something with your minor. Leaguers the way Houston did the way Chicago did the way Atlanta got better. And so we're we continually count on baseball being random. And you've got half the teams in the league not trying to win like how many how Billy what is the number? What is the number of teams that would come out and say what we're trying to win? We're trying to win with prospects. But they're not actually trying to win is it is it more than a third of the league that isn't making any effort whatsoever to actually win baseball games. I mean, that's a problem. Another problem that you have with sole contract situation is the fact that like Adam Wainwright came out and said that baseball might strike and baseball striking over. This would be terrible. Because I don't know how how do you survive that like also would anyone even notice if baseball was missing for half a season because who would notice baseball fans would notice, but it's become a bit of a niche sport in that regard as opposed to just everyone in sports loving sports is available. Baseball has become something that is catered to only baseball fans and not young ones. You can make the argument that some teams can't afford to try to win though. Hey, like, there's so many small markets that just can't afford to give out these big what Manfred we'll hold up and he did again over the weekend is here. Three teams who didn't spend a lot of money. The raise being one of them. And a couple of other teams where they had very good seasons. And they didn't spend a ton of money. I know wouldn't that? We're just Marlins counting on baseball. That's not a business plan that actually uses the other one what I should say is it is only a business plan. That's not a baseball plan to hope that the young people become a good because you can't afford to spend because your business is broken. And all you care about is making profit that the priority is profit. And the pro that's not the case in football, man. It's not they've got everything under control in terms of their salary where yes, they all tend to profit. But there aren't teams out there that you're looking at and saying outside of the Bengals they're not trying that teams not trying. How often do you think that every Sunday watching the jets donlevatar, Greg Cody of the Miami Herald has announced that we are the biggest and best radio show in America on? Tuesday's. Stugatz. You're welcome. These libertas show with stugatz on ESPN radio. If you missed any of our interviews, go check out the entire interview on demand, and he Dan Lovett to our podcast brought to you by capital on capitol. One is reimagining banking. Offering unless you. Bless you. I mean, I don't know. It was just I I lost ended. I says please he's just recoiled from the my phone because he's mortified and how terrible he is. I want to send him out to walk out to the ocean. Again. I'm not even kidding. You. Can you just play that sound back at your earliest, John? I think it's one of his worst ever the again, I feel like he was punched in the stomach while stugotz was reading. 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Here is Kirk cousins saying the most controversial thing he has said since he hissed you'll like that after a comeback victory. He has tweeted in two thousand and ten I was mad at LeBron James for leaving Cleveland, but I've been in Miami for a total of five minutes. And now, I totally understand. See what happens is you start to wonder and get mad at the for going back to Cleveland after spending four years down here. You're mad that he left leave on came here. Then you come here and realize, wow, this is a really nice place. Why do you ever go back? That's not what Kirk cousins said. Yeah. But I guarantee you he's thinking he said the opposite. I understand that. Now, he's thinking it was off. How do you ever go back to that place where he came from? Greg knows what I'm saying. Very cryptic. What he said. Yeah. Doesn't very cryptic. What do you mean? It's crypt next month. Hidden meaning one what is the hidden? Meaning he says in two thousand and ten I was mad at LeBron James for leaving Cleveland, but I've been in Miami for a total of five minutes. And now, I totally understand. What's cryptic about that have asked that Kurt Kurt cousins? Yeah. You do or just be able to read it, you know? I mean, can you help me here? Trouble with that phrase half to ask I apologize. It's tough. Yeah. Anyway, what he's doing their dance? You say he's wondering aloud what he's really doing. There is how do you ever go back to Cleveland of just I'm telling you need to bring in a mean. I'm just telling you what Chris I don't know how you're not totally ashamed of your father at every turn and worried about him and mortified I just need to know where you're going to be okay. Like, do you have plans to go? See a doctor you following up. Like, what is going to happen here in more doctors lately that you never know?

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR2)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR2)

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I mean you know team. USA was playing and so I decided I was Gonna put together and Cook and send you guys a pitches and tease you Ross said no thank you to the roasted potatoes fingerlings potato the tri color he said no that was good travis. I who says noted minute Noah Bench Spinach with separate spinach with separate on the side so I eh I had occasion Salmon Salmon I had fingerling grossly potatoes tri-color all three nice organza white the blue blue in the orbital or the white purple blue it depends on which ones you get there all purple and blue and then I had the spinach and then I had a salad salad that I had fresh tomatoes avocado. There's some red onion in in Persian cucumber and my little ones little ones. My kids he had school has a form on and so what it's a form when my kids school they grow vigil is so we'd buy for neighborhood. Els The different my school Never Pharma Group A nice name. We're getting farm and the other side. It's not true when they got the former. Wherever so they have like a little farmer's market at the school in obviously they donate the money back to the school whatever so big they call it a box so every week they put the veggies and stuff in the box and bring them home and we do you know fresh onion with the whole deal army this this cool though bill so the food and I had mushrooms as you saw my son loves mushrooms and it was fun though it was a a good meal to house smell good they came to garage opened up the garage before he when he hit the door he could smell it in garage? I man smell so good that what you're cooking you know again getting down olive oil pretty big piece of salmon for one person well. I mean it was thin. It looked big but it wasn't thicky was nice and and fan look copper. steelhead steel Copper River Copper River Salmon is what it was. Have you ever caught. No never they never could fight there. Well you get a good one their big problem with me going fishing for salmon. If I catch it at the wrong time of the year I can go jill. You know that right. You can't spawning. You're not allowed to catch them. If there's something you know mainly or whatever they're doing so that was headlinin morning you listen to Caspian. Los Los Angeles good job. You've got skills ally. You've you've got Chris. I do like salmon who doesn't don't buy stuff though so what was that spice was just like out of a jar or do you like you. Put it together yourself. No no it's occasion seasoning dry. Vira look pretty joined right now by former. NFL head coach Jacquet joins us again good morning coach. How are you Kamaruddin fellas how we doing Costa del Rio all right? How did how did you feel watching week one of the NFL season and having an opportunity tuned catch some of those games and see what was out there? How did you feel about what was being presented to us? Well it was good. I was actually at the the Jaguar chiefs game I'm in Jacksonville. It was hot and it was it was a hot one chiefs role. They look even better on offense this year. obviously big balls get hurt which was a doggone shame. threw a touchdown pass and got hurt. You know got got driven into the ground but it was a good weekend all with two games on Monday night to kind of finish it out in the you know some some interesting stories coming out of week one coach coach which game had the most surprising result for you and why well I think probably ugly. The Cleveland Browns imploding at home. You know I just that game got away from him in it was such high expectations for them going in I had concerns about draft of line but I didn't think it would I didn't think they'd have a start quite like that so it'll be interesting to see how they responded to obviously playing the jets on Monday night so they're they're back in the in the spotlight mostly how they handle the spotlight second time around Jack. How do you deal with that if you're if you're in Freddie kitchen choose your team just got beat up pretty good that eighteen penalties one hundred yards lots of chatter about how they're the team the beaten that division coming into the season and they thumped? What do you say to your guys the next day well? It's going to be key that he provides the leadership. You know required right right now. I mean it's you know it's obviously their confidence has been shaken. he'll he'll need to meet the dial that in get make sure he's guys is locked in and motivated and ready to perform and obviously you know the number of penalties sloppy play they sound like they spend not too much time reading those the hype headlines and not enough time working under under game former. NFL head coach USC Trojan All American Jack Del Rio joining joining us here on the morning show Costa del Rio the raiders. Your former team went out there and took care of business against the Denver broncos was it that the raiders are a good team team in the broncos or bad team or is it just week one of the NFL season well it was a it was a great performance by the authentic line for the raiders and I think that's that's where started you know. I I know firsthand I coach Von Miller for three years. when against them for another three the division he is a special football player and you know if you go the whole game and von Miller and Bradley Chubb. Don't even touch the quarterback that that's a heck of a performance so you gotta give them credit. They they they really invested in their offensive line. You know they went out spent a big contract. Got A big contract on Trent Brown and people questioned that they put him over on the right side. Well guess what that's von Miller rush so that was important and and obviously our last year was picked in the first round so they've they've invested heavily in the big offense line and they played well. You know on Monday night coach. I'D BE REMISS IF I didn't ask you about the latest incident regarding Antonio Antonio Brown if you're a head coach of a football team and these accusations come out. What do you do to manage the situation going forward well? I think you know the biggest thing is to make sure that those process works that the investigation is had you gotta take allegations serious but at the same time you can't you know just pull the plug on your operation because there isn't allegations so I you know they're in a tough spot. Obviously you know the leagues in a tough spot they'll people people are going to need to investigate and you know get it to the bottom of it so right now I think there's a lot of information gathering going on both of the League office and and with the New England patriots trying to trying to get the bottom of and get a sense of legitimacy legitimacy and all that and if it is legitimate and then act accordingly and if it's if it's not the get get back of business do you do you play him while the investigation is happening or do you put them on ice for a little bit until the results through man. That's a good question I I don't feel qualified as a coach. You know my my thing is to tell me who my guys are. Let me get to work and and and so you know that's you know I would lean on on ownership. I would lean on you know the commissioner of the League I would I would lean on other people to help provide that answer I as a coach you know we're GonNa we're gonNA play the the best guys that can chance to win the game and and but I but I recognize the importance of of this kind of an issue in making sure what channel properly GIECO joining us on the morning show. Let's go to the Trojans Jack in they obviously have a nice win against Stanford Forty five to twenty could on slow twenty twenty eight thirty three nearly four hundred yards and three touchdowns. How difficult is it for a freshman quarterback? Kid Who's playing high school football year go to come in and perform like that in just his first the game is a starter you know we're seeing examples of that throughout the country now and it it's amazing to see you know great great job I think by the staff preparing them and then and then you know he went out and let it up played really really well so great to see the trojans come through like that against okay good Stanford Squad and and get a big blowout win we look at the way. Seo is played obviously last week against the Stanford Cardinal going up to Provo WHOA. Byu Take Twelve thirty kickoff. What is it that they need to do in Provo on the road with a young quarterback to come home with victory? Well just go in there and find a way to win. You know I mean it's all about getting that W in the end you know protect him. They've got explosive playmakers key. I mean they're wideouts that he's throwing to make plays all over the place so it's really up to the line to provide the time and the opportunity I thought the stapels Apple's had the team. Well prepared mentally physically emotionally last week. They played well now. It's onto the next week and that's a challenging environment you know. Byu's a good. It's all a game they play Utah close in in week one and and so that's you know that's a challenge. It's a good team going into face. They need to take care of business and come home you know last week. You told us that you would do anything to help the program well. The program has a job vacancy. Are you willing to help the program coach you may I as an athletic director. I'm not I'm not wired for that. I'm right Jack. I wish you on that. That's not why not why not no. That's just it's just not me. It's not it's not what I have. An interest in you know so I know they'll they'll make a good decision and and you know and go from there. So hopefully you know the baseball. -ASEBALL came can pick it up. Welcome can pick it up. You know the football teams getting back so I love to see all the programs doing well over there. Are you enjoying Ryan this time being in television and radio right now I know I know it's itching to get back on the on the sideline and coach team but but you enjoying what you're doing right now yeah I am. I have actually doing. ESPN national radio broadcast started this week with my first call up in Green Bay with a the packers and the Vikings so that'll be you know it's it's it's a child. It's a new challenge. It's exciting. keeps me around the game. Watching I've been watching Komo morning getting prepared for the Vikings in the packers so just to get a sense of of what they're doing and all that and so to keep football fresh in my mind to be able to talk ball and being around a bunch of good people you know so being able to talk with you guys each week. It's been fun so I like. I like ball. I like talking ball aw and yeah I'm enjoying it. Jackie mentioned the Trojan Baseball team. I know everybody knows that your player and head coach but I don't know if everybody knows that you are catcher on the baseball team as well and actually caught Randy Johnson I mean you played in the NFL for a long time but does anything compared to win. Randy Johnson is wild and spike in pitches coming in at one hundred ten miles an hour. Yeah Wild Spike and pitches. That's a great way to describe it. Because the the memory I have every time somebody brings up Randy Johnson. I think about the time when he crossed me up we're we were at. Ucla he crossed me up and hit my cup with a with a dog on a fastball that was supposed to be a curve and and it and it just smashed my cup and I'm laid out in front of the in front of all the thing is the hostile fans over there at Bruin Park and yeah yeah and they're all over me heckling me so that's what I think of when I think Randy Johnson. I'm just glad you're with us that that's that's good news. I had children better better. Jack del Rio joining us here. Thanks coach all right guys all requests what say off of Raja's instagram at Ross Groves Caymanian. What did it was real simple with a good vibrations marky mark and the funky bunch and speaking of good vibrations? You know Friday morning. We don't have good vibrations out at L. pescador in West Covina because the morning show take it to the people the show people start football Friday. I'll kick off to Mexican Independence Day weekend. Thanks to corona extra game on Lyman. We're GONNA HAVE CORONA COOLERS. We Mauricio t shirts for the first hundred people that show up we got the L. Pescadores shots their house brand and rams saints tickets every hour get. VIP Takes Corona Right now. Two four zero seven zero five good feels like Renmin with the people in a minute. I'm excited go back. It's been a man. I'm excited all right dodgers win their seventh consecutive nationally West title which is a remote we will end we can and we will get into the fact about the lack of world series championships but seven in a row is no joke doing a whole bunch of stuff right. Here's Clayton Kershaw after the clinching win Clayton you being one of the few members of this team. That's been part of seven consecutive championships in the how does it feel. It's fun every years ago last. This might be the coldest. One brain is literally hurting their don't put champagne on each other having a celebration well-earned well-earned well-deserved seven zero seven in New England patriots. The only difference is they are getting a super. They're not getting the world series rings like the Patriots are getting supermarine the only difference so the big difference. It's a huge difference but I'm saying that they at least winning the division well it to use the the obvious but a true you can't win a championship if you're not in the playoffs and so they keep getting into the playoffs the question is let's. Let's play this out. Let's say the dodgers do win another nationally pennant third pennant in a row which is a remarkable accomplishment but now you're getting into buffalo bills territory if it doesn't go your way you're talking about. Let's say they win the pennant. Let's say they go to the world series. Let's say that it has the same result as did against Houston in Boston the first couple of times do you have to have a conversation sation internally at least about doing something with Dave Roberts and let me let me clarify here. Dave Roberts has won four divisions in a row now. Dave Roberts is one back to back nationally pennants and and in the scenario Orlando dot that'd be three in a row okay. He's three hundred eighty one and two hundred and fifty two in his career. He's done a remarkable job as the dodgers. No one is suggesting that if the dodgers lost the world series again that it's his fault but do you have to have the conversation about changing something up because because we keep going to the world series we keep losing. Can you just keep running the same hand knowing that it's a losing hand yeah you can't because sometimes people we'll get itchy fingers right and they they wanna start to do things unnecessary. You don't have to blow it up yeah well. We're going to change it and then when you do that guess what now you're GonNa be in the back of the line right now. You're in front of the line as long as the front line. At some point time is is gonNA fall. You'RE GONNA hit. You're GonNa hit if you if you want to be in the middle of the pack in the back of the pack then that's when you start blowing things. Why would they go to the back of the pack key? If ah the roster remains relatively the same allen level is high because there's a different voice. There's a voice poor over the top yeah but now why you already at the top hot they are at the top they just didn't. They're not finishing it. The other teams are finishing it but they're at the top there at they're one of they've been for the last three years one of two teams at the end. I'm a youth. That's at the top. I'M GONNA use a quote from the great keyshawn Johnson you anyway. Don't championship you at home with me. That's true you didn't win a championship. You sound like Donald Roll my eyes and do all of that. It is true that the they they're at home with everybody else. They didn't win a championship but if you take up in you blow up something getting rid of a guy or are moving in another direction whatever you WanNa call it you then disrupt the chemistry that they've worked off a so long to get to that point. It's not like all of a sudden. There's half your roster sixty years old. No it's not that way. I think that maybe doing it makes more sense that if if there was an aging roster if the team was just I wouldn't touch that it's just guys Johnson and just Clayton Kershaw who are for closer to the end of their best years then the beginning then maybe say all right. We just let let's try one more time and maybe we catch it and maybe it works out but they're not they're really young when you look at their best players cody bellinger cory seager. These guys are young guys we saw Gavin Lux hit his first home run. We've seen will smith step in we see guys like May and gone insulin and all these guys that are really really good player. Jack Peterson is a young guy. Max Muncie is young but he's relatively fresh because he hasn't played a lot of major league baseball. This is a team that this setup to continue to the rest of the nationally west teams aren't great. You're going to be in the same position probably a year from now and you just wonder if a different message a different voice now like we said at the beginning of the show Dave Roberts is really really good at the interpersonal stuff. He's really really good at his guys knowing showing their role liking their role accepting their role and being comfortable in that clubhouse and Dave Roberts is not just good at that he's great at it but at some point if I keep keep making a recipe and it's just missing a little bit something. Don't you tweak it look. I think if you go has shown if they break out the broom that's a different story but if you losing five or six something like that are even pushing it to seven. That's different. You know you you look at approach differently. For How many many times can you hear the same voice say come on guys. We can do it before you tune it out because if you can't start if you can keep if you keep getting to the championships championships the the the finals that's different if you're just making it to the playoffs. That voice is going to change but if you if you know perfect example is news when when we were winning in Tampa Bay we we knew we were playoff team and we can win the Super Bowl but we just we get to the playoffs and get bounced. Get to the playoffs. Get Belt gets opinion in that was like it got stale entire with Dungy because that Jon gruden comes in we it wasn't going to the super bowl loser like Marv Levy we were just going to the play offs and loser and then groom comes in gives a little fresh of voice a joe we get to the Super Bowl in win. If we were going like Marv Levy to the Super Bowl every year in losing that's a different story rougher at fired him after the second one the third one no no you just keep rolling out. He got old so he retired. You can't run around. You can lose it okay. When I was going into the Super Bowl show yeah four straight times to quote the Great Keyshawn Johnson you win a championship? You thought maybe I get that but they were going to the Super Bowl. They were going to the Super Bowl. Not Irregular just wildcard game while core game is different in going through so we're getting a little bit off it but so the rams going to the Super Bowl is a thing now because before you're saying they didn't win so they didn't they didn't win but at least they got to the Super Bowl now if they just keep going to the wildcard playoffs offs in losing then we gotta hit the reset but if the dodgers keep going to the playoffs in losing the divisional round you gotta hit the reset but it'll be interesting to see yeah. They play these last sixteen games because there is a home field advantage element to this there also is a and baseball players unlike the final story Gordon. They're hugely important but they're not going to get hurt unless something weird happens. You're it's not football. You're not getting hit your go out. There and cody bellinger is standing in right right field yeah he might but that's just a fluke accident that can happen at any point. I think you keep playing your guys. I think you you you're very cautious. Pitching staff as far as innings and pitches thrown but you keep rolling this out there because playing every day is part of being a baseball player so over these last sixteen games. I just think you roll it. No you have to because you want advantage you. You want that home field advantage but if we end this season plus one hundred win seven straight division titles maybe another pennant and we don't don't have chip to not ask yourself the question of what can we do differently include Dave Roberts in that conversation. I think is malpractice travis. You should be able to get this. I do you know this one talking happy. Birthday Harry connick junior turns fifty two years old today he food y'all. What do you mean it was making it St Michael Blue Blade okay that makes sense to me Eric Junior now he foods he'd doing spoken spoken word? Johnny Carson crowd. That's what I WANNA. Do I keep telling you I want to walk into the steakhouse. See Meteor with my Tuxedo Untie uh-huh yes we should we row. I want to be she into blackbirds steakhouse with my Tuxedo bow tie undone having Martini my hands or just that it'd be very very photo suit and just sit there and act like you really saying Gee when we go down the rain and Harry's on the piano every now and then he gets now i. I'm telling you can get them. Chris Foods we can perform Montes and woodland hills. There would be a good about two minutes against Bob excited for an idea right. They've fifty two years old. His birthday is brought to you by Jaguar Land Rover Newport beach off the seventy-three seventy-three toured the C. Visit Land Rover Newport Beach Dot Com Land Rover above and beyond see. That's what I'm GonNa do stuff like that. No it's a bad idea if you're a cheat the Cheetah on the roof of a car at a Safari Cheetah a chance to not a Cougar Cheetahs are fast just lost Ross googlers. Don't do stuff like that. Let's try sprint people's hotline Palmdale and Chris. Oh you're on the morning show what's going on on on a we'll have Chris resolves also guys how you doing this morning morning. hey real quick is real quick. like I tell you me and my kids listening. You guys all the time driving on their wish my daughter Danny later happy birthday. We'll see her name again. Danny Lynn Danny Lynn Happy Birthday Danny Lynn old our old twelve man happy Thursday sparkle what up man appreciate the guys real quick on these dodgers teammate you. You've always had a lot of it in the coffin with the dodgers man like everybody gets all scared when they're losing at the beginning of the season like last year you call these other. We're GONNA make this year. Do you feel like it's different because and I'm a big Fan. Komo huge pretty excited. I was pissed when he got traded but I I think this is a year without him. I think we're GONNA do it. I think that having fun but having fun in a different way like they're not looking after not doing all those crazy antics that was doing now. They're just I. I feel like it's a family a young family and I see them winning. It all look Chris. I hope so I hope so and I I liked to. I thought it was a ton of fun. I loved watching him play. Oh in the outfield on the Pacers in the batter's box was a lot of fun but the dodgers are not a good team because PUIG has gone. The dodgers are good team because they're a good team. The might be a little bit of a better survive in the clubhouse after a game after win. After a loss the dodgers are going to win or lose the world series and it has nothing to do with WHO's playing right field. It's they're going to win or lose the world series based on their starting pitching and based on how Kenley Jansen performs. That's it if he performs if he if he's the guy that gets to the ball on the male with four outs to go if if he's not particular guy I will say though that I do think not having plea helps them in terms of trying to win the world series because when things get tough breath and situations tight or things go wrong we had a habit of Mr say not being one of the faces you WanNa look at in those moments yeah oh by that but also performed reasonably well. He's a good player and I get that he's a heavy seas because we exactly it's not they you. I just gave it up to wait it. They the way kershaw pitched into one you doors gave up game seven and then he's got smoked gossip glass here the Red Sox were better baseball count. I understand that but when you're down let's say three zero in the second and you look over trying to calm talk me and you try sounded like rally the troops and you got this. One troupe has gone yet wears on you it does but it's not the difference between them. They're not only Jansen and the reason let's try it. Let's try another one sprint people's hotline L. A. and Holiday. You're on the morning show holiday. What's going on good morning? Oh Man I've been around men. I've been working at the hotel and they had me run like a chicken with my head. Cut off the sale. Anytime you WANNA come up to the pool relax put y'all in the Cabana and we have a good time. I need a room Friday night on the Leonida Okay and the bizarre restaurant who is well if you want to come in there man. I work as a back bar back there so I can help with this because I'm come. I worked from six o'clock to dwell. Okay already told them about you. They bid we've been I've been trying to call for a year here. Man You so popular. I can't get through no more well. That's not me have just 'cause. I got through this morning Rosh complainer. We're GONNA hang up on you anyway anyway. I WANNA get his men. You spoke earlier about these. Ab Situation I know mark is visible person and I know I I just got a gut feeling that night. You alluded to earlier t the organizations had some wind about this and knowing how to patriots deal with that zero tolerance whether it's true or not. I'm not sure this person not saying you know. I don't believe or anything if the facts come out when it's true what he did maybe punished to the fullest extent. I got four daughters but that's it. I think they lead that information information just so that he can get kicked off the wing like to finally stick it to him. I`Ma go off the air and I'll tell me what you think. There's a lawsuit there. I mean you don't control the formation of a lawsuit. It's public record so I I understand what you're saying in terms of WANNA be vengeful and spiteful but you're control of when people find out about Lawson. It's public record so any beat reporter defense. You'RE GONNA find out anyway yeah. I don't think I don't think that the raiders in May I grew anybody in that organization set this up that no it's not this is the the individual the individual who is bringing this up in the claims James in the victim in the situation is somebody who feels a certain way about what transpired and took place to different stores. ABC's one thing she says another is a civil case. It's not a criminal case. The NFL is going to handle it like they would handle anything else. They're gonNA investigate aided along with the New England Patriots and I'm sure they'll get to the bottom of it to at some point in time to some degree New England has to make a decision on whether or not what he's going to be ready to play for them and they want that in locker room. It's an all request Wednesday and so of course the goal are come on our story about having a big band like an orchestra like a Lounge Act inspired our very own Janice Janice on social media this morning Janice again so the microphone so what's this group so this is those bookies elite singers Mark Dantonio. Sali's WHO's a really big Mexican singer. He's he's gone and they're all wearing Tuxedos and stuff now. This isn't quite what I think we had in mind but no my mind's eye looked different but blows bookies. You know that's big with our audience so Kenny G. Bouquets right okay. I thought she says some thought he says spooky spooky because L. Netanyahu not really white Tuxedo guy but they're wearing white Tuxedos in the video right so in this key doesn't sound like it's like music. That's playing in scarface before everything goes haywire like chills restaurant always sudden boom boom. He's just waiting. He wants to talk to him. He's waiting and waiting for him to get there. The other guy pulled up valet parking the car. are where am I Q Schon. It's all going down and messing around with some girl comes back. Get Me Kill Yeah. There's not a change of out to go on keyshawn. I'm tied up and talking to some. Why are you always tied up Chris? He likes the cell phone. Be entitled you know what else gets tied up though trial all right let's start with some breaking news team. USA losing like ten points to the French in the World Cup of Basketball NO MCLEAN USA is one hundred percent fine. This is no big deal. Take it or shake it. Take it take it because as you all explained amy this is nothing there's no big deal. The real dudes is GonNa play any Olympics so that's all it really matters I don't care about what did you call it. The Fiba World Field Feeble World Cup. I don't care about that means. Nothing it's warmer. It's it's not at all concerning the a team of French dudes beat. NBA Player because the real real gas cats will be playing coach Popovich and in those those are sitting around for the Olympics messing around with Marcus doc is smart and but if you said it there coach Popovich had some time to coach these guys and they still got beat and this wasn't a bunch of college kids these are ah professional players starters on NBA teams and they got beat in the quarterfinals by France. You lose to Spain Okay Argentina. Maybe France Yeah I mean come on listen. Shoot Argentina went off thirty points Luis Scola who's like ninety five years old so joker these I mean these guys show you the difference between chemistry and names right college football. UCLA is trying to get as as many people as they can to come to the rose bowl this week because they have oh you. It's GonNa look like an Oh you home game at the Rose Bowl on Saturday. Take it or shake it. I would say take it but ucla no one goes to the rose bowl to watch you silly playing anyway. Their dogs chip chip Kelly can't coach and is true. They beat USC last year. There's no question about it but chip Kelly has gotten him food. He's got everybody Eddie food. When you go back and you look a lot of that was Mike Bellotti teams at Oregon he recruited people that were in the pipeline already he hit he named goes to the NFL they do for a short period of time? Michael Vick comes out and looks great then all of a sudden he is run all these different players so oklahoma roles and travels well no matter where they go the the fact that a matter is UCLA last game against San Diego state might have had seventeen thousand people in his navy. Maybe right and it's so you're GONNA FILL IT UP WITH OKLAHOMA CLONE PEOPLE RE- really quickly why has ucla never gotten it right in the football program because every good good school. It's a great city. You plan a historic building building that it seems like you could win and it really doesn't happen very 'cause. They got people the people with the money okay the people with the money. Who donate does anyone on the damn football listening to other people? Tell them who to hire. They should've left Jim more sitting right there where he was at. Did it turned around you. Oh you act like you got to compete with. USC or you got to compete with Washington immediately right away like you're UCLA. Happy Eight or nine wins a year until you get to that that level the people again the people with the money who does all the donating knows nothing about football nothing they tell they do because they got a little couple people around him but at the end of the day hiring their own people people all right Dak Prescott still waiting for his new contract starting starting the season with out a new deal gives him more leverage. Take it or shake shake it leverage to do what the money's GonNa money the money's going to be with the money's GonNa be. You're not going to go from one ten to one seventy. It's not happening. Maybe goes from one ten to one twenty if you're willing to take a chance if you really think twenty million dollars lers over the life of a contract makes that big of a difference where you're talking about that type of money then you damn fool to right I mean think about it one team one twenty okay over the life of the contract. It's you put all that at risk to give it to be vying nine hundred million dollars. If there's if it has nothing to do with this play it has nothing to do with squeeze in a couple of more million per season out of this deal. Why isn't it done because they're probably not at the level of wanting to get it done to the degree that needs to be rushed the? It's you know these things come down a link which he comes down to a present value. When are you paying me what you're paying me all that go in there? I don't think it's about the total number of I need to be paid so much further out than everybody else. I don't think it's that I don't think Jerry Gulf got one ten. I don't think he said I need to get one twenty odd. It's not you know he might be need to get one eleven in Kabul Week. Think you're a ninety five guy. That's a difference because right now based on wins in golf. He is morning golf immortal wins based on where their contracts are. The Patriots made a deal yesterday they send to Mary Thomas to the jets that get a sixth round. Pick in a couple of years in return with the news news of the Antonio Brown but I love Bella check as the greatest all right because we know what we know about Antonio Brown now the Patriots regret moving to marry his Thomas Taylor shake it shake it shake shake it. I know it seems we're that they got they moved to marry his Thomas because Ab they cut to marry his Thomas at the start of trade at the at the running back at the end of preseason they whack the then brought him back in they so you can have him because we didn't think much of him anyway he was just there for an insurance policy. I'm going to get a six round. Pick out of the relatives genius. Oh is this you're not worried about just headcount headcount at some point because of Ab goes a certain way now. All of a sudden wasn't on the field anyway they they. They're leaning heavy on flash. Gordon Dorset little other dude that they got now and it's like a little fake settlement. They got another kid. No no no. It's another one it's a it's a guy I that they wacked in brought back to. He's returning punts for he looks just like element Google. He looks just like Julian Edelman anti play quarterback. They moved me receiver there depending on those guys that's all they. They depend on four receivers in his Thomas wasn't GonNa fall in that mix. Stay with the Patriots from second. Antonio Brown plays on Sunday. Take it or shake it ooh you. Tom Shake shaking a shaky because this is so fresh in new to the New England patriots they got to gather all the information as the information comes out in all all the stuff that just continues to come out more more. It's going to be too much that they're not gonNA want to deal with it. They've already dealt with so much in the past and they bring him in in at the end of the day the even know people say the Patriots will do anything to win. I think this is one where they say you know what now because in two thousand sixteen I believe it was twenty sixteen or Twenty fifteen the the the one of those years Jonathan Kraft was on television or radio talking about zero policy that they had zero tolerance policy that they have have in place for this type of behavior of domestic violence in in assaults and things of that nature so if that's true and sticking with that then I don't see where they go roll with. Ab Okay so he doesn't play this Sunday. Antonio Brown never plays with the Patriots very quickly ticket or shake it take take it. I picky never I think the Patriots in this when they go they go walk on this one and I think they can walk on it. I could be wrong. I don't know I don't have but I just have one incense. No one's text me and told me I just it. Just feels like it just feels like it because you got people with influence like Tom. Brady Brady Brady didn't want to deal with this Brady got kids just didn't want to deal with it. What if it gets cut and then he ends up back with the steelers to pick them up? Take shake shake shake you made possible by Baluchi Dot com the B. L. U. E. Dot com use the Promo Code seven ten and you're only gonNA pay five dollars shipping and then you could choose to do it they do that's right to show the people celebrate Hump Day Wednesday by giving away a pair of sweet tickets that's right you'd be up there with Travis and his folks to the Elliott versus Toronto. FC every hour now don't Miss Your chance the CDL AFC take on Toronto FC next Saturday September Twenty Fourth Art September twenty first using you've got subtract three to one at the Bank of California Stadium at seven seven thirty pm now here's how you can win call eight seven seven seven ten. ESPN and caller number seven who can answer this here. Where did ki have the rams ranked in his power? 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"I'm so glad you with us great truly special day on n._f._l. Live former steeler rocky bleier joins us in studio and unbelievable story the super bowl champion fifteen years to the day of being wounded in vietnam a teammate ways on the jerry jones ezekiel elliott standoff we we are live with the dallas cowboys and another day another twist a._b. Helmet start though we look in live to raiders practice. It's a preseason game three look at the n._f._l. Live debut for marcus spears yesterday. I think we broke the record four letter words which i love personally. I think we had a few yesterday. We're going to have to get that whole shift to saying he'll komo go rogue well. It's funny. That is a perfect segue. Okay okay. Let's talk about going rogue if you will. The cleveland browns have had plenty to say just ask them. Of course. There's a lot of high expectations this year so l._d._l. Beckham in junior who who can't seem to stop talking about his former team which is the new york giants had this to say the sports illustrated about the trade that sent him to cleveland. This wasn't wasn't no business move. This was personal. He thought they'd send me here to die. Okay strong words. There was some bad blood. I don't think anybody would dispute that no matter what he says but more because there's always a almost adjust to your current team by the way this suggests it was i mean a lot now when the there is some validity to this right when you have. I'm sure odell beckham junior had a lotta suitors for his services in the tray with serviceman would know right. That's why i looked at him. I was waiting on you to relocate other ideas that b._s._a. A._s._a. It you think about dave gettleman you think about what the new york giants were saying and how they wanted to change the culture with odell beckham being one of those pieces that they i felt needed to get rid of in order for this organization to move forward <hes> o._b. Jay still hasn't been data with new york as well so this is a two sided anything where i think the new york giants have moved on modell beckham julia still holding a grudge and i don't think he's all the way line are seen about destroys to cleave no i. I think the trade was personal. I think there was some feelings about who odell was as a person and how they felt it divided the team especially once he started to speak for the longest time odell beckham was about implosion right he will be on the sideline him against himself screaming at himself hitting being the field goal net and different things in then it started to turn into public displays right he started to turn it into going through the media talking about our quarterback talking about the play calling early and so once those things kinda came into play. It does become personally listen when you're a player. Everything is personal issue livelihood dude. It's your career is the way you plan on feeding your family so no business move. That's made whether it's not negotiating a contract that you want whether it's sending you due to cleveland which is kind of the equivalent to pittsburgh in the jackie robinson movie. Is you remember every time in a jagged robertson moving pittsburgh. I gotta go to that's what cleveland is in your own sixteen and these things happen but odell beckham junior has to move on from that and he has to move on from with his play for the cleveland browns this year. There's two things here here number one. I always felt like giants made that trade on march twelfth or march thirteenth and i always felt like cisco really wanted to make a push and they got an offer from the forty niners it was not what the giants want and i always felt like they could have gone back there and gotten more which i guess would lend some credence that it could be personal but i think it was a business this move that they made and they were going to move on from the and they're gonna get the best offer and they felt like the browns offered him the best offer at that point and they were ready to move on from the guy so i don't know about that. The other thing is is that this is the second time now that odell beckham junior's been quoted about his former team got to leave it alone and that's where i was going to go now now. Look these are interviews that are conducted in the spring that these publications i'm out to release ripe before the start of the season and labor day on purpose for maximum mm-hmm reader share this exactly and so good for them and they got a bill to say these things but my advice beckham junior ruby don't speak of the giants yeah i think moving forward here's the here's the other thing that i always liked to use to say this when i played like i'd come out and say things about roger goodell or about the n._f._l. N._f._l. In the league and i never never mike mayock did right. I never walked up to the media and say guess what today this is what i want to talk about right when you when when you get in front of the media or when you're doing doing interview they ask you questions and you answer the questions. Now you get to say no. I don't want to answer your asked us. Specific write a lot of times. It is prompted by the question that he felt they may him the poster child for the culture and i think it's also fair to say that the decision to move on from odell might have been and personal and maybe the team choice not as here's what the decision to move was certainly had a personal element was more to anything though it wasn't because they didn't believe he could it play right. They know that he played football yeah i if he says he says it wasn't about my play on the field. I think it's taken differently received differently the people this saying it's personal well. Here's the other thing that's interesting. We have odell beckham. You're talking to g q in sports illustrated. We've baker mayfield wait. Hold on. Let me go yeah. Let's say because we're not done. We're not news. We're going to put it out there. I know in an interview. This is what adams talking about and he's absolutely absolutely right. In an interview with baker mayfield made a passing comment that stirring up some controversy of bit mayfield said about the giants drafting daniel jones onto had a losing record in college at number six overall and this. I cannot believe the giants took. Daniel jones blows my mind. Some people evil a for thinking. That's where people go wrong. They forget. You've got to win this. Everybody baker mayfield in a nutshell. I i mean very go so it's uploading day on the show big so i gotta turn like cross my leg because i am so sick of the football players when other football players naming they marlboro and this this dude food is one of those culprits right. We go back to the running back situations johnson in cleveland different but he spoke on his name right. You know me know that was wrong with me more than anybody man. Don't say nothing about this dude man. What are you baker mayfield. I know everybody. This is what they do really mad. They get on television and they talk about his moxie and this is why he's so good baker mayfield. Don't get a pay s. for talking about other players layer on layer crime. They joel's has nothing to do with baker mayfield and like you said don't answer the damn question to come home. I wondered if he was basically trying to support his support. That's exactly what i saw. Aw that's all i seem like a very a very cleveland browns centric player since he's been there because i totally do not apologize i totally disagreed with the way he dealt with the huge accident situation last year and not necessarily speaking to him but his reasoning for not talking to you or for sending absolutely and so obviously i didn't agree with the duke johnson situation and here it seems like baker mayfield is trying to make a smart comment right trying to make a smart comment about why about who gets drafted and why they should be drafted when it's really none of his business and they look eh all sorts of the new york post tweeted this just a few minutes ago because you know daniel joan sustain this force and he said here's his responsible baker mayfield now. This is another either way to handle it very. Eli got mad at me later. He can throw it. I enjoy watching him. Play best ladies and gentlemen settlement is called taking the high road. That is the very definition of daniel jones response. Hold your fire. We're going to go. We're going to come back to this because we do want to get an update from shefty on antonio antonio brown he has filed a grievance against the league over not having a full calendar year grace period defined a helmet that works for him he still upset about the fact that he has to wear a helmet approved by the league and therefore opted out of practice on sunday remains to be seen what happens going forward forward. He's expected to be a practice today. They were practising at nine pacific so this should be on the practice field and my understanding is that antonio brown was going to be out there today a with this team now. He filed the grievance again with the hopes of trying to find a helmet that conforms to the n._f._l. N._f._l. p._a. Standards that will allow him to where during the season here's the issue. The raiders opened the season now twenty days on monday night football the denver broncos twenty days he he and his agent drew rosenhaus have been looking for a new helmet now or six months. They've tried fifteen different helmets. None of them have worked so far. They now have twenty more days to figure out what helmet will or won't work to get an answer on this grievance to move forward to get him back action cue imagine a player missing game for. I can't even imagine that that would happen but who would have ever thought that this drama we're turn out to be arguably the most intriguing storyline line of training camp antonio brown's only. That's what we're talking about. This is element two point. Oh on agreements so that's what we've got going on right now well we. We also have paul gutierrez who is with the raiders and paul. If you're joining us now there you are. How is all this playing out on the west coast as we talk about it here on the east catalyst yeah. I'll tell you when he it's interesting because he is in the building. They take the field here in about twenty minutes or so twenty five minutes so we'll see if he's out there. I'll all expectation in anticipation is that he will be out there. And of course everybody's going to be zooming in on the helmet to see exactly what he is wearing out there as adam just said so the mood is one of anticipation <hes> a little bit of hope <hes> and you saw it last thursday when he when he ran some pre-game routes and cotton basilan derek carr in arizona it seemed mike everything was great and then when he when he told the helmet was not good and he took off again on sunday then there was a little bit down factor there at camping napa but you know the fact that he's here. We will see exactly how it plays out. I would pans out here at the practice today all right. I wouldn't go far palm. I guess we'll need you again. Thank you uh-huh well. We revisit now are running back holdouts to notable names who are looking for new deals. We'll start with ezekiel elliott. Jerry jones may a joke after the cowboy second preseason game forty pollard played. Well and elliott's agent went on the record to say he nor z. Appreciated created the joke. Here is what you're tied to set politics. Negotiator was the polar yeah. I ah cowboys tight end jason witten. Who's back with the team after a year in the monday night football booth added this to jerry's comment he said i thought it was a beautiful comments like everybody. I hope this gets resolved and zeke zeke. They are better than later so beautiful and interesting choice worth but that's what he thinks gentlemen again. I'm amazed at this all the time time because when these holdouts happened see slumping your head into their markets so we're gonna hear from you in a moment. You'll get your say here right. Yes when these holdouts happen. They get very personal emotional. It's business did he say i'm baker. Keep the name out of another layer and so really in a case like this. I don't think it's all that different. All it is is wish zeke the best hope we see him back soon all right. Help me understand this. I can't help you understand that that i don't okay. Here's the deal didn't zeke in his asia. Just say they felt disrespected yesterday as a beautiful comment after that after that right so so here's the deal and being in the locker room and n._f._l. Let me take people in the breach of trust between in front office and coaches that occurs and guys can get over that you can deal with that right there avenues in which you deal with that the avenue in which you deal deal with that is you go back in the locker room around your guys and you talk to a a ryan clark. That's a veteran on this team or you. Talk to guys like jason witten written or guys that are supposed to be that kind of bridge between you and the front office. That's the issue with player speaking of the players it because now i'm in the locker room asking myself well. Who do i talk to from having an issue with the front office right there. There is still this sentiment in the n._f._l. That is the front office and this the coaches and the players and we pride ourselves on taking care of each other well. Well you know the biggest thing and i always say this especially. During negotiations that of all the four major sports the separation of ownership and labor in football is the biggest divide or get to me but one thing i'll speak to about marcus saying about guys in the locker room that you can talk to and how that kinda helps you helps you stay sane gene o of course most of the time because you understand that there's a gap between labor and ownership. I also know which ones eight four me right. I know the guys now. If if i'm in dallas and i think jason witten is a great man right. I think he's a hall of fame some highly so i don't want this to be misconstrued in any way i know he's he's for jerry jones in that star way more than he's for me and when jerry jones and when jason gary treat you the way they did when he retired right and then when they accept you back the way they do. It's okay to have a loyalty to them but even in that when it comes to zeke elliot and this comment in knowing that your brother feels disrespected. You don't have to say anything negative about the jones family. You don't have to say anything. Negative switzerland right not even play switzerland richland to say. It's a beautiful comment totally. Put you on the side of you think. He's as funny as jerry. Jones thinking thinks it is because that's what keeps you around around and keeps you in the circle while your brother who you're going to be blocking for supposedly hoped to be blocking for sooner than later. Here's you talk about the comment that was disrespectful to him in a loving way and this is cool for us to sit up here because we're not in that locker room for because yesterday i told you there's so sensitivity going on between zeke and his agent about jerry joking now. You can't tell people how they feel. This is different though this. This is not in house house. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say something about our c. or shifty or and then come sit with them and proceed that everything is okay at some point zeke. Gotta come back in the locker room and at some point yesterday. Somebody should've told jason witten. That didn't feel like these comments. Were beautiful right right. Here does not care too but that's my bet that the full comment though like was that the full commented we chop it up at all was like i see that common colin like he couldn't have said that's what we gonna buy. In response to listen. I think we could have that response to the baker mayfield comments or uh-huh beckham junior comments. The thing is once. You say these things there's taken has they are so hold on just a minute. Let's let's go out to dallas where we well to camp anyway. Anyway we find todd archer who's obviously listening to all of us and he's on the ground. There and i'm sure heard a lot more from these players about all this back and forth todd houses playing <music> out there. Well honestly wendy. It's kind of like what it was an oxnard. Everything's business as usual out on this field right now and jason whitten's comment the beautiful for comment. I think in mark knows better than anybody sitting in there that it's jerry being jerry and players can the agent can be disrespected and not feel feel good about that comment well. The cowboys can feel disrespected and ninety players on the contract isn't here but the cowboys now that they're back in oxnard california. They really hope to start again. These talk back in. I'm sorry and frisco are really hoping to get these talks going and raping them up but i asked jason garrett today. How long does a guy like elliot need to be ready to play okay. We want against the giants. I just think it's important for pro football players to be around pro football players. I believe that in the off season <hes> a lot of guys will workout workout on their own. <hes> there's no better environment than competing every day with with guys around your same level who play pro football and <hes> whether that's in the weight room wind sprints doing actual football stuff. That's the best environment to get better and <hes> we all know that that's why we value the off season so much. That's why evalu- training camp so much the preseason all of that. That's what helps you prepare your best for the regular season again for a lot of different reasons whether injury or business sometimes that can't be the case this so you try to create the right environment for that individual and for other individuals to get your team ready to go tied one more thing before we let you go. There is an update on demarcus lawrence. Yes you got often physically enabled perform list today went through individual drills for the first time here in the summer remember back in april after he signed his hundred five million dollar contract had to shoulder surgery so everything thing for him lining up to be ready for the giants and sean lee as well. He's back to a full padded practices for the first time since oxnard california so the cowboys defensive pieces starting come together that big offensive piece though still in kabo johnny got a twig offset when he was three and that he was hooked all he wanted to do was gulf gulf gulf. He'd be on the links before school after schools. All he ever wanted was to go pro and then one day when he was holding his grandson sunday thinking about his twelve handicap. Johnny realized it just might not happen for him but you know what did happen for him. He switched to go and saved a bunch of money on car insurance so ooh that was good and was hanging with his grandson jeff. What we understand it's great. He went back to kabul after some discussions. He's there doc is wait. I've been told is in the low twenty s the lowest. It's been since his rookie year. You're suppose he working out with a trainer there so i know that jason garo performing then environment understandable but i think if and when they are able to get this deal done that he'll come back in pretty good shape now the the issue is again as we're talking about a longer these things go on the more people speak out more feelings are hurt the more they're likely to linger feelings feelings the statements and the hold out well. It goes on in lebanon bell last year. He was planning on coming back in the offensive lineman. Start talking out the holdout lessons is they're not saying it's because of that uh there are a lot of ruffle feathers well to be continued again. Nobody's showing any real signs of panic yet but we're now moving towards the third free now grew drama all right next on n._f._l. Press covers now for e._s._p._n. Redskins reporter john kind who said this gruden said this actually there was no rush to officially officially name a starting quarterback for the season opener this after an update on voice helped that health that could limit his participation in the first month of the season the philadelphia eagles and the ravens back on the field today for their joints practice. The two teams will play their third game in the pre season against each other on saturday night. Sal paolantonio joins us from the eagles and ravens how what specifically have the eagles and carson wentz been working on during this training camp. That's different from what we've seen. In the past few years well. This is year four of doug peterson with carson wentz wendy and this is the first first time doug peterson told me this is the first time he's ever had the first team offense practice exclusively against the first team defense in training camp camp. He wants to duplicate as much as possible the preseason games and practice during the season number two three words temple temple temple bowl. They want the ball out of carson wentz his hands quickly. I asked carson wentz about that and he was his answer. Listen to this yeah. I'm i'm an operating fast as always <hes> a priority around here <hes>. I think you know especially going into this season looking at weapons we have for me. It's just distributing the ball. Quick playmakers hand make plays <hes> trust what i see and just you know make quick reaction quick decisions and so <hes> so far feel good about that you know he's getting through his reads fast faster <hes> it's part of the progression of him and his growth as a young quarterback right now and <hes> you know he's getting to the line of scrimmage. He seeing things fast. He's redirecting protection again going through progressions ball's coming out his hand quicker. <hes> all of that is part of that. What coach goes talking about and those are things that we've seen. Can you know through the spring and obviously through this this part of camp. Did you hear what doug peterson said. He said it three times carson wentz. This is getting the ball out of his hands quicker last year snap to release two point six seconds that ranked thirteenth in the national football league. They wanna chop chopped down to. Tom brady like get it under two point four seconds if he gets the ball out of his hands quickly. He's not scrambling wendy if he's not scrambling he's. He's not getting hit if he's not getting hit. He's not getting hurt. He's less than sixteen games. You got the idea so i like how you walk us through that. I think i got it all right and we need him. On the field the philadelphia the eagles need him on the field. Yes and thank you for the perfect segue. You mentioned tom brady. I'm going to mention the new england patriots because josh gordon has rejoined his patriot teammates monday falling his conditional reinstatement in the commissioner on friday for now the board has been placed on the non football injury list but with gordon back in the fold the patriots wide receiver room is improved last season gordon and edwin combined to account for one hundred and fourteen receptions and over fifteen hundred receiving yards and do not forget both cameras and maria's thomas are still on the p._u._p. List mike reese in foxborough michael. What's next for gordon and how are things shaping up at that wide receiver position. Wendy just raced back from practice and here's the theme from patriots land today. The pieces are indeed starting waiting to fall into place at that wide receiver position julian edelman back out for a second day of practice. He missed the first three weeks of camp with that some injury to marry. Thomas looks like he's getting in closer as he comes back from an achilles tear in josh gordon was warming up with his teammates but he does remain on that non football injury list. This is notable development for the patriots because up to this point wendy. It's been a revolving door at that receiver position interesting time with a lot of bodies and there's a lot of guys in and <music> out and i think that's really some some years you might have three guys set or four guys said and i think this year we haven't really had that goes out. There still a lot of a lot of people. We haven't seen actively on the field. We've seen the evan participated so to determine all. I really worry about is. How can i get better today and if i can do that every day i felt like i'd be in a place that was philip. Philip door set so reliable for the patriots last year receiver when he was asked if all these pieces starting to fall into place if maybe he needs to be worried about his own roster spot spout and wendy one other thing i want to pass along the most notable thing that i heard today being in that patriots locker room was from captain devin mccourty talking about josh gordon's return now his second day with the the team. He said he really grew to be a part of this family. They are really uplifted by his presence back with the team. Mike thank you. I knew everybody pulling for josh gordon keeping our fingers crossed no question bigger than football really listen. Let's let's talk about this patriots passing game though for just a minute because they've got an older quarterback. Obviously we talk about check game how they became a running depot right is look. I tell you what when you look at this depth chart. This passing game at least on paper is shaping up. Whoa this is kevin durant right when you edge is gordon. This is the golden state warriors adding kevin durant. We watched the new england patriots win the super bowl without josh josh gordon last year. So what did they do. In off season they went out and build pieces as if josh gordon wasn't going to be there you went out and got into q. Harry in the first round around because you needed that big outside to receiver and he was the perfect fit for it now. When you add josh gordon back to this passing game you have julian edelman coming off of injury and we know he'll be back to super bowl m._v._p. Form this is a team you don't want to face because they stacked the backfield expecting for tom brady to get older older and running backs and the run gang to have to carry this office. This is getting scary. What's shaping up in new england agree and the thing that has become synonymous with the new england patriots patriots is the ability to digest weekend and week out to to formulate their game plan based on an opponent that they're playing and to give them more pieces. We know how great tom brady is. We know how great sony michelle was in the playoff run when they decided to flip into a running football team but to have this ability especially with this type of talent that john gordon provides if he comes back into this lineup and he's available for sixteen weeks and has that ability they can play any type the football right you wanna play and that's scary fourteen. That already doesn't the highest right now. They've lost gronkowski so they lost a lot enough and so yes they get an addition. Durant rant like addition. Whatever you wanna call it but they lose an awful lot and grunk ask because that was ready to go to red zone target also block or two but what's interesting here at the wide receiver position is they've gone from having a lot of question marks having actual meaningful roster decisions to make there's a player during the preseason named jacoby myers unhinged eight. Oh two games and it's hard to imagine that you're gonna go that guy right now. So there's another wide receiver that you're gonna keep so who isn't going to make picket run that list right now. When there's all these good receivers the marriage thomas now maybe they could afford to take their time bring back. It'd be doesn't open the season on the active roster at this this boy time but all of a sudden they've been question marks having big decisions to make it a position. That certainly seems like it has some depth. They are the ultimate chameleons. This team starts with their your head. Coach bill belichick just trickles down. We talked about antonio brown earlier. Remember this team on the west coast. So there's a time difference. There were questions as to his participation in in practice. Practice is now underway. All gutierrez is there and in this particular case. Antonio brown has headed to the weight room just as the team. We've started stretching which i presumed at a means he will not participate in slower waiting to see. I was told that he's going to be there. Is there at the facility. We'll see whether or not not he can. Power rankings have been released. Here are some notable teams the patriots through you remember the super bowl champions even with the loss of several key names they still you'll reach the conference title game in each of the last eight seasons at number three number one by the way number three the saints. The highest ranked n._f._c. team and according to the f._b._i. B._i. They have the second best chance to win. The super bowl trailing only the chiefs rounding out the top ten baker odell brown. They haven't had a winning season since oh seven have it made a playoff appearance since two thousand two more on the browns in just a minute we move on down the list. We got the ravens at seventeen. The lowest of any playoff team last season baltimore hasn't made back to back playoff appearances to two thousand eleven and two thousand well and then finishing the list. Oh the miami dolphins come in at number thirty two. They have a new head coach bryan florez and they are projected to win under six games this season all right now about the browns. We touched on this just a bit earlier but we go back to what baker mayfield said he said in an article that blew his mind that the giants took daniel jones referencing for insinuating anyway that it was about his losing records now here. This is what happens now. Baker has this to say today. This is not what i said. Just so we're clear i also said i was surprised i got drafted number. One then we're talking about the flaws is an evaluating quarterbacks. Reporters and media will do anything to come up with a click bait story at lines. He means for nothing but a good things and wish nothing but the best for daniel jones okay. We all know we weren't there. He was taken out of context. I'm not sure i but if we were looking for headlines and discussion and that's what they're listening that you're going to comment on dangle jones again to use your phrase markets you. You're going to speak give another man. You're gonna say that blows my mind. I don't care what else you say that is gonna wind up in a headline especially in new york and if you don't say that about another quarterback back no matter what the context is but it in then it doesn't turn away so it rings hollow. It just does well. I think i think we've seen baker mayfield throughout his his career and his very short career sason things that we thought were questionable and that we wondered why he would speak on certain topics that don't really involve him in in that. Don't put put him in the most positive lights but what he said here. He should stand behind. You should say you know what this is what i said even if i didn't mean it this way it came out of my mouth off and i have to do better going forward but bottom line is he has to win marcus if you're gonna continue to talk very much like one player well and so we've seen great players eventually to be themselves and we stopped worrying about it right because the say a guy like gregg popovich whose the greatest basketball coach an an n._b._a. Right bill belichick greatest football coach of all the time these are guys who could be downright disrespectful downright route and we forgive it and we let it go because they win. Baker mayfield has to win and we'll forget he said any of these. I agree with you and and i'm a big proponent of earning the billing and make comments own own things right. I don't care how good you are. You should never make a comment on any other player in the n._f._l. If it's not a positive comment but all of these things that's happening and transpiring transpire with baker like we have to use your profile. All we can do is user profile. All we can do is go back to the time land of you saying things things through the lineage of who baker mayfield liz and assume that these are the type of companies that jamaica. I mean first of all. I ain't the smartest tool in the box. I i don't even understand what the hell that tweet. Were quite possible that he also said what he said a hundred hundred percent. I believe that as well he said i think is surprising. I went number one. I think hamas the hard part about also without without if he doesn't say if he doesn't say you have to win right you've got to win if it's pertaining to the fact that daniel jones wasn't a winning quarterback back at duke or is it that he doesn't think daniel jones will win going forward it changes the narrative of you just saying it boggles the mind how they evaluate wait and pick quarterbacks if you say. I didn't think i'd go one. I can't believe that joe with six and then you say okay. I understand the conversation. I was just. I can't say i can't say when do and then say well. I guess what i heard. The president kitchens didn't hear that okay or at least he doesn't care because of course now. This is is all happening in real time because people say oh here we go. This is what freddie kitchen stay when he was asked about baker scott minutes. We don't care if baker mayfield comments to d- q. you a g- i'm sorry about daniel. Jones puts a bullseye on mayfield. He's probably telling the truth to look. I mean baker is going to be baker he has he has a bullseye because of the way he conducts himself because of the way he behaves when he's on the field and what we can say about him as with all all of these things and no matter about how you feel about baker mayfield the person he steps up when the lights come on and he plays ball now he has to understand the scrutiny bruton that he will be under now because of his words because of his attitude because of some of the things that i don't agree with that. He said it's different. It's different. You'll be critiqued differently. Really i'll never forget this baker. Mayfield plan for oklahoma and georgia beat them in the college football playoff. The first i player that baker mayfield ran across from georgia sideline. You know what he's saying. You need to humble yourself. Who is the backer the backer but but then unhook telling you there is a different level respect from your peers when you jumping out here on these cliffs he could not care about us talking about right but when dudes around the lead star say you run your mouth too much well. That's an issue. I don't care how good your hair. What's entirely unfair. Is these two teams. Don't play this year. They play in two thousand twenty. I wanted to see him play this time. What that'll don't give daniel jones time to take over the job so it'll it'll be. I don't wait to see them. Play alive. Today we hope because there are still issues remaining with antonio brown and end his helmet. He did not practice on sunday after he was told he could not wear the helmet of choice. He is back with the team. You can see him stretching their the raiders are on the field as we speak this afternoon because it's earlier on the west coast they are practicing and it's a little unclear because this was actually about ten fifteen minutes ago. We're not on the field right now so adamant unclear if he's practicing if he's lifting weights or what he's doing on the practice field to open went into the weight room afterwards and if you're going to try to predict what this guy's gonna do next. You're gonna probably would have to do that so we'll just wait and see exactly what he's doing. He's active facility. That's important after mike maths challenge him this week about being all in all out we know he's there and we'll see whether or not he finds a helmet that he is wearing during practice that continues. We used to be an issue that he has not solved. I mean the story shot really though is how big number seventy seven. That's just real. That's that's all we got it. That was a big human now only thing we know so. I think you're absolutely right second day and he's all for something. Look at all we can say here is to be continued and we'll keep you posted because we don't know to adams point across the bay what we do know as although it was good to see jimmy garoppolo garoppolo back in game action the debut his first game since tearing his a._c._l. Is debut could have gone better obviously a little frustrated but unfortunately we don't get to play the whole game right now. You only get so many plays. You wish you could be out there for more so you could bounce back and everything but so you know it is what is the preseason right now so just got taken shot <hes> not much. I mean the whole offense can really get going. <hes> had one chances turnover. We had a chance as long as developing open. Rally didn't hold up on it. I think he got hit. The ball is going because it came out weird. He was going to the right spot with the ball but <hes> we kind of protect long enough the next one forty one made a good play driving on it had tips that would have been to open guys going the right spot but there are two tips and but went out for a third series got holding columnist second and sixteen led to a third and sixteen eighteen and the kind of before it started one of you use the word that jumped out at me skittish skittish in the market which yeah i think it's certainly a difference and when we saw him play last could have just been waste one preseason game it is that is that natural or how difficult is that to get over when you've had an injury in your ass. I know i've never had an a._c._o. Teheran i've also never played the quarterback position and so to know that i had to step up and drive a ball in the face of pressure. It seems like that would make me nervous especially coming off of a knee injury in this being my first game but this is a way from jimmy what the talk about jimmy g. He is making us. Miss is that bradley. Show is an absolute monster. He's playing khalil mack position his defense for vic fangio and he was unstoppable. It didn't matter who was in front of him. He put pressure on jimmy and that's the reason why you can't step in and make plays on a night like last night by the say one of them step forward digital offense or not getting beat number one but but but what you said also run you can't help but think right we all think jimmy has gone shake the rust off and become the guy that won six out of eight games when he was with san francisco and we we all think that but if he don't i mean everything's on him everything is on him so so th the cow shanahan and lynch were the darlings of the n._f._l. Shurmur they were making these moves and they signed jimmy g. to one hundred thirty seven million dollars if he doesn't back to what we thought he would be you talking about a franchise imperil. Yeah i mean go back to work and you started when you got a potential there but it's a limited body of work right now. It is a limited body of work. We haven't seen him over his legitimate ones. Yes yes it is and one that you know we'll see answered here in the next few months of press coverage now from our e._s._p._n. Poops quarter mike wells. This was the expectation but confirmed he says has andrew luck will not practice this week. The combination of full speed movement and pain threshold concerning is keeping look out colts open the season in less. It's been three weeks. They will travel to the chargers. Looks practice time has consisted of just three practices none as a full participant and that is since april rocky bleier was picked in the sixteenth round by the pittsburgh steelers in the nineteen sixty eight n._f._l. Draft he played his entire entire career all eleven seasons for pittsburgh winning that one not two not three four super bowls is three thousand eight hundred sixty five rushing yards ranks most in steelers history. There is literally no question you can put rocky bleier football resume up there with anyone's but it is his story that that sets him apart fifty years ago today the fourth and thirty first of the one hundred ninety six entry charlie company including private first class class rocky bleier was ambushed while on a mission to recover the bodies of their fellow soldiers an incredible story. We are humbled and i mean literally humbled and honor to have rocky bleier in studio. It's amazing because one year ago today you went back. You were there and walking yourself through what happened. I mean what what do you remember most fifty years ago literally today later well you know i think the they'll see in documentary tonight you know was that when i went back you know i had i'd come to terms with all my experience and in vietnam one when when i had to come back and play professional football unlike the majority of <hes> combat <hes> veterans who returned from vietnam. I got a chance to tell my story or asked nice to tell my story. Most people repress stories never had a chance to be able to maybe have a catharsis in getting rid of it and so when we went back and as i told the crew i said you know i don't know what to expect. I said because of the fact i've told this story for fifty years and i'd have any dramatic moments well all of a sudden which you'll see in the documentary henry is that we were in the rice patty and we had talked about this before when all of a sudden i had this overwhelming feeling emotional feeling knowing that i don't know where it came from of of loss and so for me. It was like well where where did that come from. After all these years what would prompted that what what took place there and i couldn't get a handle on it. It was such an extent extent that it just drained my body the energy and obviously i i'd pass out in in the race pat in then we come back act and we finish story but it gave me i had to. I had to take another day or so to realise what took place loss of what rocky well. Oh that was that was it always felt a sense of loss and then finally i only hopefully i think i put it into perspective as we were driving to hep duck to the exact spot where we were in a firefight seeing the changes that are taking place in fifty years and so no matter what culture you're in is going to change a fifty years so all of a sudden from from whatever my feelings were fifty years ago and my memory of bean jungle villages and so on all of a sudden. It's a hustle and bustle of a thriving arriving economy. There's towns irs buildings. There's people are going on the highways. There's all this kind of stuff and i as we're driving through the valley ryan all of a sudden. I'm thinking to myself and we used to sweeps through here. We used to fight the enemy through here and that no longer exists in so when i finally got to that rice patty you afterwards and we were thinking about it and i was thinking about in my sense of loss was why really why then after i'm because it's still oh vietnam communist state we got great trade relationships with vietnam but all of a sudden it was like why fifty eight thousand soldiers died for what for what reason and that was the emotional part i had never come to contact with. Maybe a roof prostrated further than i had thought but all of a sudden it came came together in that rice potty at that moment in time. Let me ask you this because you obviously a star standout at notre dame so you had a great college career. You had one year under your belt the the n._f._l. Sure a lifelong dream. Kid policy think we're headed. We're headed in the right direction and then a year after being drafted into the n._f._l. You are drafted into a far different different situation. Do you remember before you ever got on a plane before you ever left. What what were your initial thoughts about that. Change that start juxtaposition. I i think this is that it was such a stark change for me and they didn't give me a time to reflect or think about or get ready for it because i got my draft notification location to report the next morning at seven a._m. To be inducted into the into the armed services and i go what what happened here so it ultimately the i bought another twenty four hours before i had to go but it was a reaction mode so now all of a sudden you reaction shen of having to take care of your personal needs. You're going to be inducted. That's no problem <hes> you gotta go through the physical. How do we get rid of my stuff. You know those kinds of things things so you don't think about what's going to happen and then all of a sudden you get into boom. You're you're you're drafted. You're on a bus. You're going on a plane. You're flying down on a basic training. You're going through all that the training so one of the one of the comparisons are is that maybe because they didn't have to think about it. They didn't have to worry about it. It's just you react to the situation. Repress whatever feelings you have or whatever future dreams you have and not think about it and i liked to comparative perritt to every training camp that you've always gone through. It's always the same thing whether you've been in high school or college. Is that you go. You know we end so you gotta focus what you have to do through that period of time and all of a sudden. I'm in basic training. I'm not worrying about anything else except getting through the next day and the next week and so on seeing where they're going to take me in and so that was kind of the mode that i was in not necessarily reflective moulder feeling bad for myself. It was just survival so you're in vietnam and and fifty years ago today you get hit with a bullet in the left thigh with a grenade right when you think back to that day what stands out most. How did you survive have well. It's it's again. It's a it's a reactive mode and i really think that you know some extent stanton to some extent. It's like playing sports. It's like playing and never even get an injury. You gotta scrape me or get a broken and or you get a charley horse or or if you get a torn ligament in the game where you get a little more severe the football. I don't all of a sudden you go how do you what's what's your first immediate. Media reaction immediate reaction was while. I never been hit before all of a sudden you decide. Hey i've been hit so the medicare throws me attorney and he reps at around my leg and and we tie hi that tight now we're still on we're still drama and takes over in a firefight that happens in so then we retreat a little bit and then they prob- over perimeter and get close enough and then i get hit the second time with a grenade in the in the in the same way again. It's another reaction boom because we're in a firefight you know and now you you just have to figure out what you know where you're going to do and hopefully that you survived and you don't think about anything else except for that moment so you you do survive which is amazing using in of itself you eventually are recovering hospital and now comes the second wave of you talk about loss because at some point someone says football is out of the question. You will not play football all again. Yeah i do remember that emotional sure very much so because because the question on my mind is that okay i got injuries as you know how bad are the injuries and i don't know to that extent in so after i'd get to tokyo and i spent three weeks in hospital in tokyo after a couple of weeks i finally get enough courage dr leo or is my physician is like everybody else's in so a one to know how badly damaged my foot is and what the prospects of playing the game again now is. Don't worry about it you know from his perspective. You know you're going to have a normal life. You're going to have the okay you're gonna be able to walk. You're going to be able to do these things. Don't expect to get back. You just won't have the strength nor the flexibility to be running back in the n._f._l. From his perspective right or not in his diagnosis but as my authority figure it was flake food. He just sucked that little hope out sometimes in our lives. We need to have a little hope in that hope came. Maybe a couple of days later in the form of a postcard and two lines on it said rock team's not doing well. We need our rooney and you go. Oh you know somebody needed me. How were you able to come back from from something that would have ended the career of most come back to rush for thousands of yards and four super bowls from being shot down in vietnam and hamson w superhuman yeah so anyway but i think this and i think it's really a mindset in my mindset was that i didn't lose a limb. Okay i mean it didn't lose the function of a leg damaged. Yes but also you know. Is that a plane sports. You get damaged. You get hurt. You get bruisers. You get bumps. You get polls. Could tears and you learn a kind of a lesson than that. Lesson is that it heals or you see a doctor it heels you go through rehab and then you're back on plane plane in the neighborhood and maybe you're in your own lives and go okay fine my next week you're back out playing again so that kind of mentality and as i was thinking all right fine well i got everything you know you just gotta go through the process processes a feeling link process going through three operations process of rehabbing but then you finally get to a point where you say okay fine now. I have to start doing some things now. I have to start running. I've seen organize because even though i was still in the service time my impetus was to get back to play for the steelers and least in that one thousand nine hundred seventy season and so so it was just in the things olympia through runs you know going to the gym to an all the basic things that we ever did and there's a couple pull things and i think that this becomes important to i didn't have any distractions wasn't as if i had a family or i had to provide for my my wife were children oriented that i could have been very selfish at that time and think about just rocky and what needs to be done. I had a responsibility within the mccullough in the military but that was like a workday you know and so afterwards everything was on your own so you you get to do that stuff and so for two years and three for years and continues to work and hopefully things work out so i come back the first year and i go limp in through training camp and because of the family they either give me an opportunity. Take pity on me whatever it is but they put me on injured reserve. I have another operation ration- they think the doctors can fix whatever's happening. I had some shrapnel was working. Its way out of the wounds that i had before so <hes> but that bought me a year so the following year made the taxi squad or the development squad so they want me to years of an opportunity to heal and get better and get stronger so now you have to do something in one thousand nine hundred ninety two so i come back and i get a chance to make the team in playing special teams primarily so you find into niche somewhere and and i think the important thing for me was that they saw the progress it wasn't as if i went home in on came back but they were there to see the work i put in and maybe the progress that had taken place in and getting better to do that and so given me an opportunity and so that was one thousand nine hundred seventy two well. I know it's been said many times. We thank you for your service. You are an inspiration to so many use the word selfish. That's about the last word that should ever be applied to you and we cannot wait rocky to see the full documentary tonight rocky bleier story his emotional return to the same spot almost five decades later s._c. Featured presents the return on e._s._p._n. Two eight o'clock thank you again. Brownies back as well so too is our raiders reporter paul gutierrez. He is with the raiders that camp so i'm gonna let you tell us what's going on there paul. I'll tell you when he there's a little bit of something going on right. I mean he was on the field. During pre practice walk through <hes> <hes> win into the weight room when we were allowed in the media viewing window for team stretch and then he came back down to start stretching on his own two things that i did notice though was he never had a helmet at hand or on his head the entire time while the rest of the team did another thing that was interesting was he changed his shoes. It looked like he was wearing some sort of just regular sneakers when he was out on the field for walk through when he came backout for stretch he was wearing cleats though not those really colorful bright shoes at he usually wears just in basic standard shoes religious and then we were all kicked out media viewing window ended jon gruden speaks after practice so <hes> we'll get an update then exactly how much he participated if at all in terms of wearing a helmet or not wearing a helmet thank you listen. I'm not making light of what we do but in any other any other profession. This is downright comical. I mean we are monitoring who goes where with what a helmet. It's almost absurd thinking about the juxtaposition of what we've done n._f._l. Life you're talking to a man who fifty years ago today the shot in his left thigh by a grenade and the very next segment. We're talking about a man who can't play football because yeah. I was just thinking about it. So you actually have nothing to add just can't you can't not think about it and that is again. A lot at stake wants vocation at someone's feeling all of that is true but it really is hard to kind of get your mind around this in light of other things that in light of what we just heard i just it's hard here. Here's what i am for. Whatever reason we can talk about it. We joke about it. Obviously this helmet situation is important antonio brown right. I don't wanna. I don't wanna lose sight of that. I think the criticism autism is how you're handling. It is not the fact that you need a helmet that you're comfortable to play in. That's a real situation for a lot of football players players to be comfortable when you step out on the field. It's the actions that you're using in order to get this done. It just feels so much bigger than it really needs needs to be and that's why yesterday i told you guys the only conclusion that can draw as a._b._c. doesn't want to practice and training camp because i can't think of anything he's not gonna turn down the money. He loves playing the game. He loves what comes with the game but all it is over not being able to find the help. I think though it's one of those situations you mentioned it early. You can't tell people how to feel and you don't know how they internalize. They're feeling and what actions they call us so for me. I'm just trying to figure out how does it end. When does it end because we know it will thank you. We think yeah i guess we don't go in one way or another well. That's true over by now right. I would underscore what you said marcus so. Is that what you need to do but how you go about it and that's true so many so many times.

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Mason and Ireland (HR 3)

Mason & Ireland

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Mason and Ireland (HR 3)

"Okay it's time for fasttrack questions for ramona. She's got him for me. We do this every day. Fasttrack is brought to you by dr grant stevens. Get your body eddie back on track fast. Get rid of those unwanted inches freeze the fat with dr grant and his team at marina plastic surgery check them out at freeze the fat dot com we always start with a ceremonial coin flip and so we'll make it about antonio brown ramona heads antonio brown comes through his senses finds a helmet and no more drama after this tales that goes off the rails again. Call it in the air tales tales yeah. I'm afraid of the same something ramona you wanna go first. You want me to go okay go for so right now. Steve mason is on vacation and croatia and he is visiting in some of the sites where game of thrones films croatia is the capital courageous job is to do which is landing the west western <hes>. I actually did the kings. I actually did the game of thrones tour a couple years ago. I went to a bunch of the sites where the filming took money asia because he'd fill dementia in northern ireland so my question to you is what show movie or anything else in the media. Would you go on a destination the nation vacation to visit sites where it was filmed. Wow that's a good question okay so like the bachelor in paradise hotel. Hell would you go on vacation. Just so you could see that it depends who which bachelorettes would be at the hotel at this at at the time i would certainly consider it i think think are you ever see the remake of the italian job mark wahlberg in those they start in venice a really cool part of venezuela. They steal a safe on the venice canals then they drive. I think through switzerland and they come back through l._a. Visit all the spots on that. I think it would it would probably be a good one. My favorite show of all time is the west wing so i've been i've had a tour of the white house <hes> but those are the two maybe the godfather part to tobacco old italy and be fun to see those spots. What would it be for you. Okay so i've been on a couple of days. I like those dan brown books. <hes> they have the code davinci code they have angels and demons right that was on rome <hes> the first one davinci code his <hes> paris right in rome <hes> and so i've been on a couple of those really have like the walking tours and they'll take you some of the sites that they referencing the books but i think my favorite favorite was the game of thrones. My second favorite was eat. Pray love when that's in italy right italy bali india so i've done you get the three cami me. They're eating italy. You pray in india and you love and bali. That's the that's the eat pray love and if i did the finding nemo tour all those different spots in australia. It should be part of this right. Ramona went on. I was on vacation c._n._n. Anchor chris cuomo got into an argument with a man who called him afraid. Oh yeah mama was so mad about this. He threatened to throw the man down a flight of stairs. Cuomo claims that calling an italian man frago is the equivalent of calling him the n word two questions here. I'm married to an italian and i didn't even know this. This was that offensive is it. I did neither like i. I've never heard that is the i know. That's an offensive term but i don't think it's on par with general general race might say chinese italian. I would call him freighter. Would he punch me. I mean just the godfather reference brother yeah you know but i've never thought it was like even in the santa league as the n. word. Isn't there another italian slur. That's just as that's even. I would think yeah but the but freight oh to me never registered he. Did you see off. Yes loses flew in a lot of people are defending him saying you know he was out of this family. You know bubba. He just absolutely absolutely is okay secondly all right. Is there another fictional movie character who equals a huge jin salt. If you just invoke okay in other words like if you like if i referred to a girl as you don't want to be around her she's regina george okay. I i mean we always mean girls yeah. I use the term voldemort a lot from harry potter c._n._n. Recite okay so so voldemort is the evil guy and harry potter that you're not supposed to even mention his name. He's that evil so you're literally if you like to be honest donald sterling and a lot of ways voldemort like don't even speak his name anymore. It's like just pretend he didn't exist. I was thinking maybe darth vader. That's abedin so yeah what what that's why we're so surprised. Is there another fictional movie character. They i mean it's fictional <hes> <hes> you know it. It just seems so weird yeah that he would lose it over a fictional character. Radio corleones does not exist. They made him up yeah yeah but this guy said you can't call me frail. It's like it's felt like misplaced. Anger felt like he was really angry about something else and he was just gonna unload on. This guy got him in the room now the thing that got him but he i actually thought cuomo is the one who really escalated the fight to tape. It was like he was mad. Okay sure if he's mad about the insult assault but he's the one who said you want to take this outside. You want to fight about it right like if you call someone kaiser so that just means that they have a revenge streak in them yeah i i'd like clean at us as if you can think of like a fictional movie character that you could seriously insult someone me hannibal lecter okay i uh-huh he's a cannibal. He actually comes across in that movie as a very anthony hopkins one on one tons of awards for that chas seem. It seem weird to me okay so this morning apple plus released a trailer for the morning show so let's talk unclear any it is a show about it's a fictional show about like it's a show about a fictional morning television show. I think it seems based on the today show right because hey carol basically place matt lauer okay and jennifer aniston's. The lead anchor in reese witherspoon tries to come in and take jennifer aniston shop crack. That's what you you can tell by. This one run the trailer so my question to you is what is your best story about. The dog eat dog nature of this business wherein okay well t._v. News is very ruthless and and the one thing that happens is on the air all these television stations try and sell you as pretty early in the morning which is why i think apple decided to go in the morning show. They try to sell you as this is your t._v. News family they were all family you welcome us into your homes and they show you doing a whole bunch of different stuff and nothing could be further from the truth because as soon as is your contract's up if they wanna get rid of you. It's like don't even speak of this person. They will cut you in a heartbeat. They're not your family emily t._v. News people are working job. It's not untrue in this business like thinking about early afternoon. Panel like one day like kelvin great guy one down. They just fire boom so we're not talking about kelvin anymore. Marcellus leaves and goes to fox like they mad at us. If we talk about marcellus mason i have enough tenure in the business where nobody can really tell tell us not to talk about something the one thing you can't talk about right now the s._p._n. Is politics and we'll get pulled off the air. Dan lewis got away with it but he's an eight hundred pound gorilla like they've issued in a pretty strong edict. They don't want to get in political but it's funny to me that as soon as they let somebody somebody go it's like they never existed so the best one is probably the late night talk show shows right with letterman and johnny carson and how letterman kinda got his way in there in him and jay leno how they battled it out for the tonight show. That's i think probably my favorite example <hes>. I've obviously see seen some as well in since we've been in the business right <hes>. Have you ever been in one of those where you know somebody is about to either be let go and you're the one who has to fill in for them no but mason they put it in a really tough spot. They told me saying that they were adding rid of me and told mason not to tell me and he didn't and we were we were at odds for long time. We finally got over it because they put them in the even more. They told dave singer to singer. <unk> decided not to tell me yeah so i got surprised by it but the then those guys all get fired and they put the show back together but the you know we've we've worked for probably fifteen different bosses and i understand their predicament. It is because a lot of it's contractual and they can't get rid of people but you just feel bad the people that that are going <hes> it. It just seems it's it's not it's they say it's it's not show friends. It's show business. That's a line from jerry maguire but that that's true. It's soon as your contracts if they don't like you. They'll just get rid of you and not care about you person. Whatever you have going on personally. They don't care so what's the i remember. What was that report at the daily news <hes> i was a local columnists. I'd find like worked there for a long time. I was finally getting a few breaks. You know they gave me a local columns. I'd write about the high schools and i work my way up. It was like seven years covering high schools and then finally the last couple of years. I was getting to the lakers the clippers you know but i was in addition to all the other high school stuff. I saw one time they they have a round of layoffs and one of the guys got who got who who got laid off and i didn't know about it before i knew about it like the day of okay. It happened like they told him he was out and within an hour they're calling me saying okay and you're the new person and this guy was a friend of mine right. Steve dill back like new you didn't you didn't know no not in advance but afterwards and i was like wait. What's what what like. That's not how i want to get that job right but that's the reality is the reality of the business and it was so i was like i wish you wouldn't have told me today. I'd like i would have waited a week but they like needed to call him yeah. It was evans jars so i think they're going to cover all this morning by the way this is going to be part of apple a-plus this is going to be a new basically competitor for net flicks and i based on that one minute trailer. I'm signing up for apple plus that that i'm it. It looks really really good. Chat all right ramon. We've been talking about antonio brown a lot lately the arrival in the hot air balloon the cryotherapy feedstuff stuff the the helmet all of it so here's my question. Is it possible even possible that all of us are getting played. He's been talked about more than any other player. We did to whole segments on him today. He doesn't really need training camp. He's perfect for hard. Knocks didn't do stuff like this terrel owens. Is it possible in this world of social media that all of this is calculated may accent on it gruden's in on it and tony ranting on it week one. He's going to be one hundred percent and playing and they did this to draw interest to the raiders. Is it pots like this is the wag the dog story for training camps. I hope so. I really hope that's what's going on. I think it is possible jay crasher huge raider fan. Is it possible. We're all getting played here. Not at all. It's typical raiders. That's a dream. I a harsh it's possible but i wouldn't have happened like as a coordinated thing it would have happened as something that started and then instead of just letting it go and resolving they just kind of are keeping this going because is there laughing at us right like maybe they're just. Maybe they're just doing it for the ratings for the show. I that would actually be my favorite outcome. I don't think that's what's happening. You drive it actually would show a tremendous amount of camaraderie and working and and and the fact that antonio brown just played all of us would would be very funny. If he comes out he goes guys. I play in this all six months ago. The feet thing was all makeup the cranberry everything never happened. I didn't really care about the helmet. We just did it for because i was the lead story on every talk show not possible percentage percentage chip one not a dumb. Larry is a national level. I don't think he would like fake. His feet being burned in the ground their <music> next level rank <hes> but i do think that they could be extending this helmet thing a little bit just for just to buy some time to heal from the foot thing thing if it if it turns out to be true i want some credit all right more yeah more fast drinking two minutes remote information e._s._p._n. L._a. i right in the middle of fast track ramona. It's you check so i love this. I i always say john. Which one would you like next. You wanna game of thrones question. The british royals already did a game of thrones related questions so give me the roy okay. So here's the royals <hes> this is a headline in the daily mail eko lecturers megan megan markle and prince harry for their private jet with baby archie for for a fourth gas guzzling flight in just eleven days as they leave the as they leave the south of france after visiting elton john's eighteen million dollar mansion on a three day john obviously this has been covered quite extensively in growing in the in the british press well elton john has now said that i am deeply distressed by today's distorted and malicious account in the press surrounding the duke and duchess of sussex six private. Stay at my home in these last week. Prince harry's mother diana of wales was one of my dearest friends. I feel a profound sense of obligation to the family to to protect them from unnecessary press intrusion after a hectic year continuing their hard work and dedication to charity david and i wanted the young family and have a private holiday holiday inside the safety and tranquillity of our home to maintain the high level of security we provided them with a private jet and to support prince harry's commitment to the environment. Don't we ensured their flight was carbon neutral by making the appropriate contribution to carbon footprint my question to you. John is what's wrong. The british press well first of all. I just cracks me up. What prince harry and meghan markle can't fly commercial. Are you people crazy. It would cause a friggin riot a little four month old baby. I mean if you can afford it. I have zero problem with people having a private plane plane. I have zero problem with people who have a hummer carbon footprint aspect of it. I actually think that's probably overkill. I'm not anti environment. I hope that all our cars ours are tesla's in ten years and that we do something but no i'm not gonna guilt trip anybody who takes the private plane. I take private planes. When i fly with the lakers to all these games it makes the league more efficient i- environmentalist wackos are going to find a reason to criticize anything thing and also be responsible for your own carbon footprint do what you can but if you get invited to elton john's house on a private jet no you you don't have to turn it down because you're you're on what they call a gas guzzling flight no jets are gonna fly whether you take them or not. Relax lacks so i i understand and i think we're in a different place with the carbon footprint of it all <hes> in the states as they are in europe. I think it's a much bigger deal in in europe about jet travel and carbon carbon footprint and equaling things out because like when i booked flights that go overseas. There's like an option sometimes to donate to offset your carbon footprint. That's part of the booking process and i think that's a much bigger deal overseas so you know harry and megan have been very three very public about supporting environmentalism and i think it's great that they do that but i do explain this like young family. That clearly needs to take a primary no yeah they need to fly private. Trust me if you've ever been around one of those royals when the public goes nuts. That's a baby would never get out of it. I'm just wondering hey you got the baby to flip to to fly so serenely four times at eleven days. Ed has been on a cross country yeah jaguar. We can even go on the freeway without losing his mind jack on his first one six months old. We flew him to boston and he did great. He hung in there all right <hes> the let me do this. One dennis dodd from c._b._s. Sports recently tried to name an all time college football team at best s. players at each position in the history of the sport his first team quarterback was nebraska's tommie frazier second team was tim tebow honorable mention it was roger staubach john elway cam newton and steve mcnair. I would argue. He left off the guy. That should have been first team ahead of frazier. Let alone not in the top six. It's somebody you saw play probably in person any idea who i'm talking about liner correct matt liner in three years as a starter order was thirty seven and two he completed sixty five percent of his passes almost never throw interceptions. He threw for ten thousand thousand yards and ninety nine touchdowns. He won a national championship. The heisman trophy the roseville v._p. The orangeville m._v._p. And almost most every other award a quarterback can win. Can i not make the argument that he had the best college. Career of quarterback has ever had yeah. I think he can make that all those do because he he was three years. He won twenty four games in a row. I mean how many tivo go to career. He wants to go but one one heisman like liner did he but but the problem with depot was he didn't throw like matt's right. Yeah i mean you know they had reggie bush yeah but i think that match definitely be on that list. Just just in terms of long most most college quarterbacks don't have like four great years right yeh squandered to plead sophomore junior senior but for him to have three years like that certainty seven and two the other one's charlie ward. How many have you only one one liner did finish third in the heisman voting always playing yeah but he didn't go thirty seven now. Yeah minor minor should be on that list. I it just doesn't make any sense fast track all right. You got one more okay <hes> okay. I had two questions. I'll skip the game of thrones. Okay skip that one. There was a georgia are martin quote in the guardian came by his finishing his books but right now. I like to go on twitter sometimes and see what things is your trending. The biggest things that is trending is hashtag kids things. I still enjoy okay so kids. Things i still enjoy are making macaroni and cheese and putting ketchup all over it bouncing on a trampoline. I do all of these things now with daniel guys. I have a little baby. We want our hashtag kid things. I still enjoy i when it comes to mind today for lunch at a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Yeah i cannot get enough of peanut butter and jelly sandwiches so i still do that all the time. <hes> on this like hot fudge sundaes. Yeah can't get enough of them. You put a hud sunday in front of me. I don't care on a diet. I don't care where i am. I'm going for the hot fudge sundae <hes> i still like riding a bicycle which which is a yeah. That's a bike allred the bike to the beach rather than the car. What else would like sampling's sure can't get enough of 'em swings. If i if a little kid like if you gave me daniel if you get a little bit older but i could probably put him in one of those swings where where you can put his feet through holes and he strapped in right and go back and forth slides slides fleet we go on a water says yes that <hes> trying to think what other kids things frisbee raised me so. I think i could come up with a pretty long. I'll read did you a few that are trending right now. Naptime kidnaps her fantastic cards with money in them excellent idea coloring books school supplies get excited about that. I gotta get for my son. We'll start jumping in rain puddles. Yes not bad slip inside slide so besides your excellent except for they put a stain on the lawn now that i have to actually worry about the lawn running after the ice cream truck kellyanne <hes> let's see watching saturday morning cartoons in my pajamas not bad but did he still have saturday morning cartoons. I think so but they run on the networks in the outings animated shows some summer good blowing bubbles. I'm not good that i can blow small one big want and juice boxes. I think in my garage right now i have because we have a block party. Every year. Lease always tries to accommodate everybody boxes. Let's see tom and jerry can't get enough. Tom and jerry's always good yeah. Those are all those are all pretty good looking all right so monday. People got to feel good right now ramon well. You've done very well on the birthday and you're the only fill in hosts. We haven't play. We're gonna put a twist of the birthday game okay i. I have a list of ten people who have birthdays in august. You and i are going to play password. Oh i'll give you the clues but we only get two clues. If if i can't get you to say the name the full name of the person okay in to clue. It's a miss. Usually you can't anyway i. I think we're going to get nine out of ten fun chumming. Do you think we're going to get ramona nine eight or ten corrales which are about eight all right right remodel. Let's see all right number one patriots. You can guess tom brady. Good it one for one time. I thought you were going to keep going. No no no no. It's not it's not time. We're okay president obama to for to you must know that. He says he has an august birthday. Okay i did actually k. car dashing ashington and remember i can't i know who's a financial. Now you in another if you want it warmer former clip youngest kylie. That's the wanted to where you're gonna miss. Okay gonna sing this client. Okay holiday. Oh i got it <hes> madonna for four that's okay. I don't know if it's legal say that's all just do this. <laughter> lakers magic johnson the very last week last week all right that's easy. This only works if you've seen it okay so let's see caddishness sadness. Oh yeah the hunger games so let's see <hes> actress jennifer lawrence boom okay yep a thriller michael jackson all right four more next to kinda hard all right here we we can do it prime dion sanders. Should you get at this all right. It's the way you said it too garner jennifer garner ex. Oh ben ben affleck tell you nothing ben affleck hillary's bill clinton. I was gonna say husband all right last one right stilt wilt chamberlain broadmoor for ted allegory excellent that was good all right that wraps up faster and easier than birthday because at the time pressure coming next did you hear did you watch. Did you see what the rams did. During the game in hawaii in the second second half <hes> it was fantastic. We'll explain it coming up next ramona information c._s._p._a._n. L._a. highly underrated song mason and ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. Ramona shelburne information ramona's podcast series drops tomorrow the sterling affairs. We talked a lot about that last hour but make sure you subscribe to it. What is the how do you subscribe ramona thirty for thirty podcast. Dot com slash early so everywheres podcasts are vallon apple podcast spotify on saturday saying that on saturday night the rams and cowboys play a game in hawaii preseason game now the rams preseason games are are unusual in the sense that knowing that plainy starters some some of the starters didn't even travel air. Donald did go over there. I didn't see jared goff curly went but what was fascinating was the game was on channel. Two and this year andr cecilia no and maurice jones drew and meena meena who helps out sometimes are doing the game so they somehow convinced sean mcveigh the head coach of the rams true takeoff his coaching headset amazing and put on a broadcast the headset while the game was going on and the results were really interesting. Here is mcveigh with the crew initially top. I tend to seven. Here's the third i said we had a four man crew. We actually have a five man crew. Joining field is ram's head coach. Sean mcveigh's goes. His defense is on the high coach how we doing how are you doing. I'm doing great depends on how we do on this first down man thirty four hundred eighth structure right here. Okay see how we do. We've been good on these early downs. After that first i drive so you want to call the plane or i'd see what the offense is going. Short motions slot looks like it might be a little bluff stutter- action quota therre man. We recognize gar downhill for too long about him from texas tech to pick tie stop. He's made plays today. Trick has made plays today today as well local. Once whoa has made plays you gotta like all three good man great games at a fixed up cutlass last series so this is big at any time you can get these offenses in these get back on track down. That's always good for us. Defensively we can kind of get into attack mode a little bit all right my first reaction to that if sean mcveigh hey everyone wants to get out of coaching. He'll get a job in tv tomorrow. How good is this is. This is wall. The game is going on. I i was fascinated and you know what you know. What's great about. It is our thing we know basketball pretty. Well you and me right you. You're the play by play voice of the lakers but we don't know basketball like a coach basketball. We don't know what is happening at every second of every play like him saying that the real coach coach jargon in their winning and calling the plays. Here's more from mcveigh during their keep in mind. He's on the sidelines coaching the game yeah topic down the field here. He is wearing a headset and coaching talk. Let's see rematch. College forests great job by various williams man. He just keeps showing up. That's a great player right. They're mansard down. Thirteen is not a play not down as an offensive coach. I'll let you call those plays andrew none. What are you joe joe bearing weight phillips clinical defensively. I think we'll probably play his own. Keep things in front of us was single high falls on the headset. I could tell you exactly but i'm talking to you guys. That's awesome bay. This seems like there's so much young talent on this rosser guys or ballot positions the some people some people say competition breeds greatest. You see guys step in their airplay up every week. That's exactly what you wanna see. I went to split safety match. I'm going to get a hold from elbow georgia. The holy also back up. That's good great job anytime you can do that. We're in good shape. I just so impressed with how this guy can multitask and he's answering questions and he's watching what's happening on the field. Here's here's some more see if we can get off the grass here third down in twenty three. Keep things in front of us and then get the ball back to the offense. The structure forest the top down troy reader getting eleven half off the job. That's good though back inside job right there so you're pretty good at this street. I wanna stick around do this. When the offense is on the field outdoor with the offense do really house the ground who critique wolters play connect connect for those that don't know shane walgreens calling all four games this summer heat. He actually had a first thing he did his birthdays today he's turning forty today and in and he got up on stage last night at the luau in a grass skirt. It was impressive yet. Some good rhythm and i was impressed. He was shaking and he was a good sport with it as well as austin austin forward so mcveigh they were only supposed to have them for defense because he normally the tweet phillips sharma's fun so he just said all right. I'll stick with it and that led to this coverage here with rams head coach sean mcveigh down on the sideline. The only gonna join us on the headset when the defense is on the field. We're going to get one play here with the offense. What do we got here. It's been a good <hes> good day. It'd be able to change the launch appoint a little bit. I think we're going to start out with the little bootleg baked too wide zone and and keeping a slot formation right here sorting fake to the left right ear. We're gonna keep back to the short field field if we can get something to pop or some of these crossing routes through their emotion over here to create a one back slot look fake hard to the left right here. Keep back to the short field all right. We got bread pressure outstanding job by brandon allen right. They're finding a way to get out of that. John get a fishy yards. We'll right right on track where we wanna be. That was the top plate execute when you get that pressure. The great job by brand gets yards john. We cannot thank you enough for doing this doing it for the week one in carolina we know the answer to that so sean mcveigh from the sidelines in honolulu all yeah i thought that was it was really cool thing like that's one of the things that you don't realize when you're watching game especially a football unit preseason game like how many things are are happening on one play all the hell facet happens in him just like calling out that a great job guys getting separation on that and the like. I can't even but he's i can't even approximated out because there were twelve things that he just said that. He's noticing in that one little play right and i still think these preseason games are. They're too many of them. They i think they should cut him to to <hes> <hes> or even eliminating college football doesn't have them and the rams are playing any any of their starters so i think preceding years although last night that game in seattle i thought was you know was in minnesota minnesota vikings and minnesota but i think they both teams played their starters. It was actually kind of interesting but i think if more teams are going to copy with the rams are doing rams. Don't even play their starters in the preseason everybody does that. You know you don't want to charge people for those games. I mean if you go to the laker games in preseason unleashes as you see lebron. At least you see anthony davis. At least you see those guys. The rams aren't even dressing jared goff and aaron donald todd gurley. It's a completely different animal issue just scrimmage in that and and they do that during the week you know so so these inch interesting by the way adam schefter reported earlier today that during james the great safety for the chargers is going to be out for four months and that's going to be a huge story in in charger land just because he was so good last year and and i'm thinking that james the he had a screw in his foot put in when he was a freshman at florida state dr stinky bent the screw last week at practice they could get him back right before christmas. Allah question is can they make the playoffs like what they did last year without derwin james and this would be <hes> you know joey bosa would would argue v their most important defensive player but james would be one a <hes> you know he he he was that good last year so this is a huge deal for the chargers. I saw one person who i follow that covers the chargers. You're saying other than philip rivers. This was the guy that they could least afford to lose right so i mean that's gonna be a big story for them. I think that that that division division is chargers. Chiefs win it. Broncos will be a little better with vic fangio head coaching and then there's a raiders how many win in steve project for the raiders this year six. Maybe i'm going corrales. What do you think have you seen that schedule. Get help and five wait a minute. Did you see see the way we absolutely dominated the mighty arizona cardinals intaking twenty-six nothing lead eight wins of course. I'll claim they have sixteen wins by the the end of the season we along. We're coming up top of the hour cross. Talk remote is information. I'm john ireland e._s._p._n. L._a. saying john ireland playlists. I love it. You'll get to here for a couple of weeks. Mason's gallivanting across europe ramona's information. We began the show talking about this reported accorded rumor and you reported on it over the weekend that the lakers who got that horrible news that de demarcus cousins had torn his feel so bad for him that i thought that was a great signing by the lakers and that he really at a chance in a contract year to make a huge difference he you know he would have been at best the third best player on the lakers which meant you couldn't defend your your elite big. Man has to guard anthony davis anthony davis that good so we're really would've left left an opening for bogey and he and davis played well together when they played on the same pelicans team in new orleans but now with the tornado hail he'll probably miss most of if not all the season and the names that were coming up as rumored replacements for him were joachim noah kenneth for read and the one that drew the most attention that had my phone blowing up your phone on blowing up. I'm sure the phone ringing at the laker offices because everyone seems to have an opinion on it was dwight howard and you did some reporting on it over the weekend again. What do you think the chances are that dwight howard ends up coming back to a very small chance <hes> i think there early in the process of deciding adding what they're gonna do about it they may not even fill that spot right away because you have to kinda see how the rest of the league shakes out the rest of the roster but <hes> i think it was the grizzlies have given permission to dwight and his camp to talk to other teams so it was more dwight's people calling the lakers and lakers saying thanks sure we'll take the call then which is the way we're really after tweet howard which is what the lakers should do. Rob pelinka has said on this show before that he'll take any recall. He'll take any shit if one hundred ninety nine of them are bad. It's worth it to get the one goodwin yeah and that's what the agency to it's like. That's your job like when to to find your client and other job so i think that dwight's going to have some options. The lakers will have a lot of options like this is. It's just because of their history that it's a fun little story right and and i actually think that of those three names the one that's the most intriguing to me is kenneth for regan. Who does everything well. He's a really these nicknamed from the manual because he is flying around getting rebounds and blocking shot he. He's not a score but i'm not sure lakers need a score. I don't think so i think they just i need someone defensively and the reason why like anthony davis would be your five but he doesn't wanna guard fives all year like that takes a lot of him physically the time he gets hurt art. He wants to be a power forward. He wants to defend other power forwards and so you need a big guy who can play that five spot so that eighty doesn't have to i'm trying to think of who would a deep defend on the clippers on opening night when they probably mantras harrell yeah i would say or zoo botch if zeus starts yeah <hes> anthony anthony davis had a fifty six point game against the clippers last year and remember when the season starts the clippers want paul george. They'll have kawhi leonard. They'll have lou williams. <music> have patrick beverley but they won't have paul george who had shoulder surgery on both shoulders this summer. When do you expect george might be back. I've heard anywhere anywhere from a couple of weeks of missing the season to like six weeks. I mean it's all kind of depends on how well this last phase. His rehab goes and also how aggressive if they're gonna be in trying to get him back like i would assume they'll err on the side of caution with him. Somebody asked me who i thought would have the number one seed in the west and while i think either either the lakers or the clippers will probably be the team that comes out of the west. I'm not sure so sure denver or utah doesn't finish up with the number one seat because those are built be really really good regular season teams. Who do you think's going to have the number one seed in the west. When the playoffs so denver was right there last year and i think they got better <hes> so i would say i think that's your sort of by default per team think the lakers and clippers are really good and they probably have the best team altogether but it sometimes it takes a while for those new teams to gel whereas denver sort of they're already good. They're utah. I like alcohol. I was just gonna say the rockets and the warriors ears both win fifty games. Yes however i have to do the math right if we start giving sixteen winning fifty game. Is that possible job. When you're eighteen team scam okay <hes> one year when when the lakers and oklahoma city was the eight th they were the aid at fifty and thirty two because i'm one of those who still thinks the warriors are like really good and i wouldn't be shocked if they go back to the finals. I think a lot depends on dangelo. D. ngelo russell fits into their system and interestingly lake clay comes back yeah michael who by the way we'll see you tomorrow michael's filling in for mason tomorrow michael says he while he would love clay to come back sooner he's envisioning after the all star break for it makes sense so could be sooner but he michael's thinking late february early march <hes> but but if they get everybody back if they have steph clay draymond <hes> remember that was that the team that basically wants seventy three games for losing to lebron o'brien in finance it harrison barnes on that team and they'd dollar who are both gone now but the core that team was draymond clay and steph with steve kerr as the coach so yeah houston's the biggest anomaly. I don't know what they are. I don't know what harden and westbrook look like together. I know they played together in oklahoma city but now they both have m._v._p.'s belt a one of them has to give up the ball and i think it has to be russ as as much as i love westwood hardens been too good the last two years to ask him to sacrifice think it has to be russ question is willing to do it and if it doesn't go well right out of the gates. Hey it's how did they each react darryl would trade his mother daryl maury. Would i sure he'll deal with it. If that happens all right coming up next a little crosstalk i think i think it's andy cheminant ski kirk morrison mike trudell. I definitely saw kirk morrison walking through. He's definitely here so we'll we'll get their thoughts kurt. The kirk the former raider. I wonder if he ever refused to play with a given helmet we can. We can find out for man. That's coming up next e._s._p._n. L._a. Hey hey hey it's time for purgatory regulatory. Yeah new as purgatory don't get stuck in mortgage loan purgatory call h._m._s. capital. They compete to win you. The best home loan rates call eight three the three to five five fifty six ninety eight or visit h._m._s. Capital dot com andy cabinet skis here kirk morrison here. Let me get you guys to weigh in on uh-huh ramon and i were just talking sandy. I know you wrote about this for the athletic. Brian did did about dwight howard okay good idea or bad idea in your opinion if they bring him back as a minimum backup andy i would explore other options i. I don't think it's the end of the world if they do it. He would not be my first choice kirk. What do you think i don't want no part of the white howard. I wouldn't bring him onto what we're building to me. He is the link to the old. He's not a part of what we're doing now and to me. It's more of a distraction than i think <hes> valuable minutes that he can provide. I think this is more other. There's other options out there. If you ask me well i like kenneth read a lot but but i disagree with you guys went to white in this regard. You're not bringing him in here to be one of your main guys you'd be bringing them into play fifteen minutes as a backup and if you and i think there's i don't know about i think you're going to start but i- marcus cousins was going to be like a twenty five minute night guy there's that you replacing and there's and and there's here's some other names. Let me toss him out. Okay ause pachulia marsin gourds hut solemn heree. Marsin gortana has a pet pig. I just for that reason alone. I think honestly i maybe i'm wrong but to me as an outsider i hear dwight howard's name and it's just a name. It's not a guy who's gonna give me the quality minutes that i it it. Just what you hear oh dwight howard and you think of the old seawall here's here dwight two years ago. He played seventy four games and was a double double guy which are hard to find ironically. Demarcus demarcus cousins the honest honest real quick for what team i don't know what the two years two years ago era despite for six teams in seven years on the wizards last year but he had a nine games the that's the concern learn about the other guy for charlotte though by the way yeah well talk kim noah and dwight the issue with either would be can they stay stay healthy enough to help you. I i mean and that's actually something you have to take a new county and beyond all the baggage that white brings with him particularly among the laker fan base you still have to try to account for depth and it's a little bit dicey when you're trying to account for death by bringing in a guy that's coming off a nine game season. I mean i i recognize that he's not far far removed from basically eighty two games or close but he is coming off an injury that that was significant that he basically missed the season. It also says something that the wizards moved him as quickly as they could and we know this because tommy sheppard their new g._m. Said on the record that was the fastest trade we've ever made ooh and this is coming off. You know several seasons where atlanta moved him as fast as they could. Charlotte moved them as fast as it could. The wizards move them as fast as it make a difference their smoke to wait nude but does it make a difference to you because it does to me that he admits he has been completely humbled. He's admitted this before when every story with jenkins and it was all about how <hes> yeah. I just think when a guy has been like i think carmelo anthony botched this never basically acquiescing to what he's what his career was now which was a role player. He's he he. He won't admit it. He thinks he should be starting. He thinks he should be run the offense room and carmelo's out of the league i don't think do i thinks that but i mean but here's the thing though dwight clearly and you listen to k._f._i. In los angeles he grates on people like it's obvious is that even if he's not trying to even if it's not because he considers himself still a focal point player. That should be the number one option on team. It's obvious that he grates on teammates and he grates on a locker room because again he keeps getting shipped out after productive seasons. There's no other reason to do that other than locker. Uh-huh can't stand him. He's just all named all name. He doesn't even fit in the kind of thing that we were talking about. I don't know if you brought this up. John guys in my group chat. We were just talking about the joke him noah aspect because at one point he's saying those guys are hollywood is hell when he was talking about lebron de way all those guys at miami when he was a part of chicago bulls all right and now bringing him on and say you know nobody wants to go hang out in cleveland. I don't wanna hang on years. He's coming. He's coming to hollywood possibly like you. It was it was one of those things that was brought up and it was really had me kind of like man so so way back in with this land stevenson blue lebron's ear and they were teammates last year the land stevenson kind of respected that it was like to me that was part of the reason why he was on the team like the same way member matt barnes and kobe with the with the the ball in orlando like matt throws the ball right in his face and like kobe doesn't flinch and like kobe kind of tough the three of us john ramona we cover hover. We covered kobe. The dirty little secret about him is he liked it yeah when you go back at him like he wanted gears and i'm talking reporters to like. If you kobe tried to blow off a question of mine i'd follow it up and be like no answer the question and i think he respected that. Yeah you take that mamba. When i think a tough questions i think andy cam and that's michael thompson the bahamian grill ah so kirk. I wanted to ask you the game last night. Yes seattle minnesota late in the game. Paxton lynch is in a quarterback back in and he gets hit head to head helmet hit dejected defender. I thought at that point paxton lynch had become a runner and that he actually had the ball law and lowered his head. Do you agree with the ejection. I agree with the ejection because that's part of what the n._f._l. Wants to get rid of its it also goes back to college and you know i do college college football for e._s._p._n. Show whenever we go through every single year. I get this list of rules and we went over to again with you. Know the the rules committee but if i'm tackling you and your bigger than me the and you've got your head down i am i. How do i avoid your head. It's always see what you hit and the defender couldn't see what hit he lowered his helmet. When you see those signs of and locker room see them over the urinal by the vice though by the way applies at the urinal right exactly you wanna see what your excellent point always the argue hydrated picture right all different colors of urine. I feel like that's like one of those days like when you're potty training your kid that's like a good saying yes see what you and i've got to think about one day patriot annual. That's a good way. Trust me we have we we have gone in my home. It was the old cheerio. Go hit the cheerio in vermont it. Here's my advice about training. He'll get it eventually. Freak out over. It like potty trained kids eight yeah. She's eight and just checking. She was all worried he was never going to figure it out and then one day just happened stone over don't over stress about about body yesterday where my my sister-in-law and her her daughter olivia here and there visiting so she's like five and we're all swimming in the pool right and so i take daniel in the pool and i kinda just hold them up and we didn't really get his head under the water yet he just kicks a little bit and splashes around and he always wants to try to drink the water. You know because he's the baby maybe just want something like oh. Let me tell them not to do that and so libya and blake my sister-in-law this song and they go don't drink the water that you're driving around. You're not going to be able to <hes> get that out of their head. Now that's great. I'm totally when he learned to speak going to sing that song my daughter who's three karaoke night tomorrow told take john water that your buds and when we were going through the process of potty training my daughter i remember his around four or so like she was getting the hanging out and then apparently this happens a lot with kids. They regress stop. They stopped liking it and they stop cooperating and her preschool that had basically all these different like eastern european china and russia and teachers instruction instructors one day her teach which is like bring underwear sitting around founder and i mean we're just like okay and we just brought in some underwear and she was ready and they basically drilled it in your head like the next day. She was potty the train like they didn't screw around kirk. The the raiders have been the talk of the day because mike mayock yesterday just showed up and called reporters over and said this <hes>. You'll know that a. b. Not ear today so here's the bottomline he's upset about the helmet issue. We have supported that we appreciate that at this point. We've pretty much exhausted all avenues of relief so from our perspective. It's time for him to be all in. We're all out kirk. What is antonio brown doing. He's being antonio brown and the thing about it is he's one one of the most powerful people and organization. No one wants to say it. The raiders need antonio brown. More than antonio brown needs the raiders okay but i'm be remote. Run it organisation. They need antonio brown and he knows it right. He knows it so. Is that what this is. Is this just a flex. I think this is a flex because the raiders saying we want to get him out there. They're trying to back him on this hill helmet issue and i think i heard john talking about a little bit earlier. John is different with tom. Brady like tom. Brady just was like forget it because tom brady's tried to fight the n._f._l. On a different way he's already won talk seriously. Tom brady is not gonna win a case it. Would you go suspended for four games again okay. Let's do a train. You let me deflate the footballs. Give the helmet so like i it's honestly like it is a flex by antonio brown and i've said this before many times that when you look at the raiders right now they actually this is a blessing in disguise what's going on with antonio antonio brown because they have some dean underlying issues within the team that i think that they're just not a good team yet but people all what's going on antonio brown. That's the question that's what mike mayock first time general manager yeah. He's not in a booth anymore right. He's not in the studio so he's tired of hearing the questions. I know his wife probably ask what's what's going on with the antonio guy his brother what's going like that's the only question the first time gerrymander comes in because when i hear what you say hey look. I'm not gonna take any questions. I'm just going to tell you straight up. Ah tonio brown he's not here. He's better be all in. That's frustration on the part that everyone asking him that same question and he's tired of answering it. How does it end. I mean i tell you what we were. Abroad will be ready week. One dimmer burma bronco monday night. He'll be ready to go. This will all be forgotten. He goes out and gets one twenty five to one fifty two touchdowns and we're gonna forget about august nineteenth talking about whereas antonio brown. I honestly say you. You're his teammate. Though are you getting annoyed to get annoyed because you don't want an answer that question you know what i mean. You just don't want to answer and that that's the point where guys like look man but at the end of the day i i had guys like randy moss charles woodson. I had some strong character guys at my locker room and they did things and i'm like man. I was a young player some light that do just to get away with a lot but then all of a sudden sunday cain and i'm like i see why because he can do things that not a lot of other players tony. Here's a here's my word you brought up thousand. You brought up randy moss right randy. Moss was spectacular in minnesota. Absolutely came to the raiders didn't hit went to the patriots was spectacular in as a raider fan. I'm worried in tonio. Brown round was spectacular in pittsburgh. What makes me think that this isn't randy. Macho well first of all you were there. Why randy moss work with the raiders well for the for the first season it worked. It was great first season second season. I mean they got an offensive coordinator who was running a bed and breakfast for the previous five years. We went to one to two thousand fourteen for a reason john and look we already knew from training camp. The wheels already fallen off. It was like oh here we go but i think it really comes to. The foundation at jon gruden has put in derek carr has put in. They've got some pieces around. I just think that when i watch them antonio brown is going to make derek carr. Be a better quarterback antonio brown. He can beat double triple. Whatever coverage you put out there and he searches field. I mean just him on the field alone. As a defensive coordinator i gotta nowheres eighty four at at all times. Gotta find out where that dude is because when he scores is not just a touchdown right we got a warrior fan when steph shoots and hits a three three that deflates teams right people can get a dunk and it's like oh. It's a dunk with steph shoots the three boom. It's like oh here. Come the floodgate. When antonio brown scores it turned into a spectacle spectacle because you know he's gonna dance. He can do all that and now you've got guys over there pointing at each other on the sideline if you're a decent so why not just do that like while the drama yeah but that's my question. Is this a flex over the helmet or is it a flex just to flex. I think it's a flex over the helmet to first of all he's. He's got you know. Countless amounts of money thirty million guaranteed now but i think is to for him to kinda prove a point that okay. You can't wear this helmet because you gotta find one and that's within ten years. You know being manufacturer. Oh well okay. I'll do that so he's found two helmets that have been made within the last year and now the n._f._l. Is saying well. We still got tested tested. I mean to me. I think it's a bigger issue just because i really believed that the n._f._l. Is trying to get away from the whole concussion lawsuit that hey we told players to do for this. We don't have to pay things out anymore. I actually wore the same helmet that he wore. It is actually the most comfortable helmet by the way air shut advantage helmet by far the one he wants to wants to wear i wore it was a popular helmet in n._f._l. Circles but when i got when i signed with the buffalo bills they actually as a team decided not to go out and buy that particular model in helmet anymore so i was forced to change until different like i will go out and go by my helmet. We're talking. I'm like i'm not buying a helmet. You just give me what you you know what i mean. Somebody could difference is. It didn't think about it. I feel like it's like i used different helmets. I've have used different gloves. Cleats like that kind of stuff does affect you. Can you adjust eulogised ramona. This is very easy for you on in this way. There's a glove that you've always had yet and when you put that glove on you just know it. You just feel like everything you like. Oh yeah i catch everything now. Someone we'll just say ultimate brawl glove. You put it on us like i. I can't do anything. It's the same thing with his helmet. He's like he's worn a particular helmet for his first nine years in the n._f._l. He he doesn't want to switch and it does make a difference and remember just because he gets a new helmet doesn't mean he's you know doesn't is not concussion susceptible. You're still can get concussions in the n._f._l. N._f._l. We saw paxton lynch last night. You talk about the hidden john that hit the helmets not saving them from a concussion. Yeah that that that i highdown purgatory. That's ran one in the books back with brown to next e._s._p._n. L._a. all right mason and ireland purgatory role in on kirk over the weekend really big story. Jay z. signs a partnership with the n._f._l. And there were people that did not like it. Here's eric reed of the panthers. Jesse claim to be a support column wars jersey. Tell people not to perform the treatment that n._f._l. And now he's gonna be and so kind of despicable air greet. It says the jay z. Wants a supporter of calling copper. Knicks enters a agreement with the n._f._l. To run basically entertainment n._f._l. Entertainment out of rock nation. What did you think of all of it. I think it's <hes> it's about time <hes> obviously that the n._f._l. Is finally showing their awareness on social justice issues. You know social injustice. This is what is really to me. All about people going to focus on what what about cabinet. He still hasn't done that but i think the time is now past. It's been three years colin. Kaepernick is just not going to play in the n._f._l. Anymore so that that ship has already been has sailed but now it's about okay. How do we get past it <music>. How do we not allow that to happen again and the olive branch that you lend to is jay z. Jay z is a guy who is about business business he he's not about. You know messing around. I don't know what he's done with. I think meek mill and he's done a lot within the community as well too. I think bring more awareness and so for the n._f._l. To bring him along. I think to me the n._f._l. Wanted this they they they sought after jay z like okay. We gotta do this and i think just listening to me just from what i've read their certain influential owners in the n._f._l. To me the two most influential owners are two guys. I think they're really running the n._f._l. If you ask me is robert kraft jerry jones those two guys run. Jerry handles the business. I think robert handles the e._r. p._r. So yeah and i think think this was full on robert. Kraft say we need this guy to for just for our public image of the n._f._l. All right to your point jay z. was asked. How can you make a deal deal with the n._f._l. When you've been so pro capture nick this whole time and capture knicks still doesn't have a job. Here's what jay z. said okay. I think we passed kneeling. I think it's time to go into actionable items. I think everyone knows what the issue is. It was done with that we we. Everyone knows what we issue. Is you know why we're nearly okay the issue the issue yes. We all know issue now. Okay necks where we move in on next and i'm not again so to be clear but room. I'm not minimizing that part of it because that has to happen. That's a necessary part of the process but now we all know what's going on. What are we going to do. How are we gonna stop because the kneeling was not about a job. It was about injustice. Let me bring attention to justice assist. Everyone's saying wow you going forward and there's an average up. This wasn't about him having a job andy. What do you think i mean. I think there's a big time onus now on jay z. to show sincerity when it comes to the social justice initiatives and show exactly why he's partnering with the n._f._l. Along these lines because he's got the the reach reach to work with anybody along these lines if he wanted to so the idea that he's not just selling out jay z or the i mean not selling out colin kaepernick that he is serious about this and is not purely about just creating inroads as reported to own a team. There is a big time onus on jay z having said that though my concern right now the way a lot of this is getting talked about is that con- capital ends up becoming a paralyzing agent in terms of the n._f._l. If you think they can do anything along these lines or if you think somebody like jay z can hold their feet to the fire and force them to do something that colin kaepernick ends up an agent of paralysis where you can't do anything because he's not in the league and like kirk said he's never going to be in the league and the reasons that he's not going to be in the league are staying on the n._f._l. And it's going to be part of their legacy and they have to live with it but at the same time if if for nothing else if jay z. is now in a position where he can forced the league's forced the league's hand into doing some initiatives that they otherwise may not have you have to find a way of moving forward and you don't don't want cabinet to get in the way of that so my big issue with the whole jay z. coming into give them some street cred okay they wouldn't is <hes> is that a lot of the capital has just one issue and jay z's right in saying that it's not just about <hes>. It's it's like now now. Let's get a seat in the room with let's talk. Let's now i can at least influence them but so much of the way the n._f._l. Is setup feels disenfranchising two black doc players okay. It's just feels that it's not just capper nick. It's the way that players get cut after injuries. It's the lack of guaranteed contracts. It's the it's like more more than any other. League players are treated as as you say okay as property as as sort of it has that vibe of love when they try when players tried to protest and take a knee like there was this you know the bob mcnair quote about mates in the aside. I mean that's the there's there's so much more than that. I don't think jay z would have any influence on. I don't think it would be made you a not. I i don't literally the way the league is right. It's the wait is and you know. There are some players who talked about it before. It's like a what they call a <hes>. You know the slave owner mentality plantation mentality so you know well. I think the bigger thing though to the texans referred him as mr yes mr it doesn't get much more than that literally have that out the respect i did call al davis mr canadian by you mr mr davis <hes> but i honestly think that now <hes> today's point though that everyone knows what the what kneeling now means like they understand in it like before it was like why why in the thing about it is we still haven't heard from president trump and that's the bigger issue. You know what i mean. I think think when once he starts to get in on it that's when the n._f._l. Is like okay because they had to wait till he stopped talking about it before they can introduce jay z. right right 'cause last year if we always look at my notes from where we were a year ago that was the hot button topic last year was about who's going to kneel. Are they going to continue and member number. This is where donald trump still doing president trump was still doing the same things and enlighten that fire this year. He's moved away from each other. Things going on and that's so i think the n._f._l. Has said look. We understand our players. We hear you. We know what it's all about but it's a little hard to market certain players if you're not listening to what they're saying especially with their their ventures off the field as well all right. I wanna remind everybody that tomorrow morning. Early ramona's podcasters drops ramona word. How do people subscribe thirty for thirty podcasts cast sterling. Thank you remote thirty thirty dot com for thirty podcasts dot com. Anywhere podcasts are found. I've heard the whole thing kurkin andy it is spectacular. I've said i've said a few times the show i think it's the best work ramona's ever done and i think it's really really good and i think it's going to lead to play a little yeah is it is it is it a coincidence stole ramona that these steve yano is getting back active on instagram at the last few days i saw interesting to her many many times and friends of hers and her lawyer declined and it was oh it was really interesting to me that she started resurfacing servicing over social media. I was like come on now. Where were you what i know. I know i think about this through where we are right now in the n._b._a. In los angeles with these two teams hopefully set up to just have this basketball mecca. None of that happens with viana like these bianco created created l. a. basketball. It's a truth yeah very interesting so so make sure you subscribe to that ramona. Thank you good luck with zero. It's going to be a big day for you. Mauri the way too much of me. 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Preseason Studs in Week 2; Rookie QB Talk with Charley Casserly

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Preseason Studs in Week 2; Rookie QB Talk with Charley Casserly

"With the n._f._l. Podcast arrives to work every day in a stroke. Welcome to another edition of the around the n._f._l. Podcast presented by sirius x._m. My name is dan hans this. I'm joined in room. That's filled with heroes. Mark sizzler chris wesseling and greg roosevelt. What what is up boys. Hey dan terry impressed by the range of fashion choices in the room today <hes> dan wearing dan sort of shirt me wearing a shirt watch done show probably five hundred times eight very fabulous looking. Let's focus on the fancy boys. West has the lakisha makeover. I have fashioned before i met my wife. Okay hold on now. You look different than not only. Did i buy this jacket myself. I bought one of our podcast listeners. Got it for me in minneapolis. I don't even know if that's legal and greg seersucker now. Now yes seersucker and there's a reason why because wes and greg went on the rich eisen. Show rich was kind enough to have you guys on and mark and i will be joining rich before kickoff in a couple of weeks to do an appearance as well and and it sounds like it went really well greg but you making a bold decision to wear seersucker on national television. Let's dig into that a little bit well. How old is it i. I thought that i would be disrespecting my father-in-law who got me this jacket white when i was visiting my family in tokyo over the summer if i windbreak it out on the rich eisen show what better place to use it for the first time well. It's the first thing i noticed when i got to the office today. When i got to the newsroom and guess what i was the only one who noticed and case you're wondering <hes> oh now in fact wearing a seersucker sport coat. I noticed i mean if i said the same same thing. Now is my father reusing material if he's going to buy me i don't want to listen to her place to where it first and how do you guys really listen to our podcast by the way and just listened to the sound of your voice. I hate i rarely do. I've never gotten over that. It's fun. I like your voice. I can't deal with <music>. Sorry so is the job good soccer though my one question with the rich eisen setup u._2. Going now or is it. Did you think internally do this. Does that program view that says an appetizer dan dan and i being the main course go down. You know we're gonna they left us the choice of however we wanted people don't need to know that i do believe that's case ace but do you guys are appearing on kick on the day that n._f._l. Season starts. That's that's a more high-profile day today. They were having anyone. Annual jeremiah was on the this show so there's collecting people off the street fabs to the studio anyway so greg keep an eye in greg's fashion choices as the season goes on. You'll we'll see greg casually and n._f._l. Network perhaps different digital shows that we have <hes> greg's fashion getting more and more quirkier as he gets older and i mean that as a compliment you're you're looking to get outside the box and it's very clear to me well. The only way to do fashion is to make it your own right <hes>. That's what he's doing. Yeah i i i. I'm not even like that was again. I know the west cannot stand the concept up that he would not have reached the same place fashion wise without like he should but i do wonder where you would be from a clothes horse perspective. She had not come into your that is misrepresenting what i've said. Take the case. Her influence has been tremendous but usually when you guys pick out an outfit. It's something that i chose or i did love marx reaction there west like throughout throughout a wesleyan philosophy on fashion and it's like that's how we're here now. We're at the point now. A society where west has philosophy on well. I saw that come come and not even exaggerated changes. You're right west you have to is it what you liked. The second thing i think about is what is dan gonna say. Not the joke on the podcast or in the office like that's who i'm thinking i am action. That's true a lot to get to today all right because we are now inside side three weeks before the start of the regular season <hes> so we're really starting to wrap it up and coming up on today's show we will have bob are takeaways on friday show. We talked about some takeaways from the thursday preseason games. We'll share some more from the rest of the games that were played on friday saturday sunday. There's even even one more today and nobody will be tuned into that and also we have oh yeah jarlee casserly the great chas it has casualty is gonna join us to talk a budget things including the dallas cowboys and their contracts situations his take on what we've seen from the rookie quarterbacks and also <hes> <hes> westlake you. He has some real concerns about the pass interference rule <hes> so i think <hes> every announcer in the n._f._l. Is concerned about the past concerned -cerned and confused wreck. Let's do it what we're hearing presented by sirius x._m. Let's do some news with eagles did with the worst thing they could. Eh twenty twenty. I don't know nick foles. Come and hunt the eagles during the pomona pocket anybody please. Who was that chris was. That was the man running the food truck at a concert that kishan. I went to over the weekend recognize me he said do i know you from somewhere and i asked him if he was n._f._l. Fan and he we got around to he listened to the podcast so i asked him to you. Give me his thoughts on the eagles and that's what we got. The take is that nick foles will punish the eagles for generations to come. He thinks the eagles did nick foles wrong long but not keeping him as the number one quarterback. I disagree but you know that's what's fun about football as you can see very passionate passionate but that's all right. Let's get to the news. Oh boy you know we thought that perhaps the worst was over for the oakland raiders and the struggle with antonio brown by the end of last week he was back at the raiders facility and we were hearing positive reports about the frostbitten feet and there seems to be perhaps some movement in the positive direction on the helmet issue which has been vaccine for raiders brass <hes> but guess what antonio antonio brown disappeared again heading into this week and he did i i should say he did reappear on monday and we can get to that monday today but over the weekend then he was gone again and mike mayock the g._m. Of the raiders who i imagine has been biting his tongue entire time decided he needed to make some type type of move. He needed to make some type of statement. He needed to start taking control of the situation which had to be a tough decision because it's a volatile situation. Here's what mike said to a small group of reporters yesterday sunday. Y'all know that a._b. Not here today right so here's the bottomline he's upset set about the helmet issue <hes> we have supported that. We appreciate that okay but we've at this point. We've pretty much exhausted all all avenues of relief so from our perspective. It's time for him to be all in. We're all out okay so we're hoping he's back soon. We got eighty nine guys busting their tails. We are really excited about where this franchise is going and we hope he's going to be a big part of it starting week one against denver and the story no question <hes> i enjoyed that. I thought it was mike mayock as you said. Just someone's gotta let antonio brown know what what in the clearest way to do that is through social media. I think that's what antonio brown responded to so. I just thought it was and i'm not the first person to make this point that it was telling the raiders put that now on their twitter account immediately like they he made that statement and then they made sure that everyone possible could see it in including antonio antonio brown who has been going a little wild on his social media the last few days in over the weekend and antonio brown returned to work monday. Ah the stories over we'll training camp isn't just to get your body in shape for the season. It's to instill what may i was talking about all in it's it's it's all these guys getting together and being all in as a team and it's hard to do that when you have eighty nine guys in one place at one guy in the other and i thought the tenor of the coach and g._m. I'm so far has been they've tried to support antonio brown verbally and on hard knocks the best they can but behind the scenes it has to spe- ripping apart and it's embarrassing in the city. It feels like you have to take control of the situation. Somehow and his comments were extremely strong. I thought it was telling last week. Jon gruden and we talked about this that he he went out of his way not to be involved not to say anything inflammatory to try to keep keep this thing as under controls could possibly do and i think what happened with mayo care as they reached the point as an organization where they had to kind of roll all the days is the right word but hat do put that out there knowing full well it could create volcanic situation because brown so temperamental and so on you know he's it's hard to figure out where he's coming from next but they had to do because this is this has become greg ridiculous. I mean and the raiders are trying to get together for a season starting at a couple of weeks and their best players still pulling this helmet stuff and it is selfish and it's the reason why the steelers are lucky to have him gone. I'm sorry well. I think all the information that mike silver put on his twitter account two weeks ago really informs the mayak statement because if it was just the helmet and everything else had been honky dory over the last couple of weeks. That's one thing how many issues just bizarre i mean they he had literally used the exact. It wasn't just like the type of thelma rich eisen went through the entire scenario on his show to start out today and he had talked to someone in the league office. It was literally he's played with one helmet. The whole time like the exact same helmet hadn't been made in over ten years not even produce and they went in and they tested that one helmet and failed didn't pass it didn't pass the tasks and they don't make that helmet anymore so they're trying to find one. That's similar isherwood but it's kind of it's kind of a crazy hill the die on some of you oh i had strong comments too so of others transformation of this players personality and we don't know enough to to really comment but when it came came into the league with a good sort of chip on his shoulder because he did not feel he was drafted as high should've been in got the recognition that he was the hardest worker that he would. He would study relentlessly endlessly that his practice habits were pristine that he would hit the gym. After players have gone home every night. That's completely different from preparation angled and we'll we're getting right now to your point west that he's not mentally engaged with the rest of his teammates. He's invested like he's invested any wide receiver. I've seen since jerry rice. He's maniacal about his work ethic and and working hard and trying to find advantages and i think when you're that invested probably intensifies feelings a lot more than other people like i don't want to sound condescending gene and it's really not where this is coming from but part of my reaction to this was just like tony brown okay. Is anyone thinking about that like as c._o._o. Zero right. I think are thinking about it but i don't know what i mean like it just yeah they. They don't know where he's coming from. It's just i think a lot of concern turn ealing and and and they wonder that especially from the outside just because it does not seem like the behavior a guy that has everything <hes> in a good place mentally but man. What a mess remember. Our knocks tuesday night on h._b._o. Let's move on other wide receiver news wide receiver or josh gordon is back with new england patriots new england patriots the n._f._l. Announced that they are conditionally reinstating the veteran trend following his indefinite suspension and roger goodell released a statement goodell in gordon of formed a positive relationship over the years with during the spent like hundreds of hours together at gordon's on again off again <hes> issues with the league and substance abuse but goodell so we are rooting for justice exceed we both personally and professionally. This is a little bit of a surprise west that gordon was able to get cleared as quickly as he did. Perhaps his relationship with goodell plays a role in it but we don't know what we're gonna get from. Josh gordon still twenty eight. He made a big impact for them last year before disappearing down the wormhole substance abuse suspension and how big is this for the patriots. It's huge considering their wide receiver core and all the questions they have there and i think you asked the same question about josh gordon as you ask about the guy we talked about antonio brown in for a different reason you ask how long would last is this just for a few weeks for the whole season last last year. We thought he was going to be there all season when he came back and then late in the season. That bomb drops on the patriots. You don't have a guy who is trending towards your biggest playmaker at wide receiver. I mean it seems like they maybe they knew more than we did but their preparation going into the year to me seemed like they had no idea of gordon would be back and they prepared around. Didn't you get chilean adeline. You have josh gordon potentially jacoby. Myers has become one of the stories of patriots camps all the drama and the hand entering over new england's wide receiver room is starting to look like it's not gonna be that big of a day. Yes absolutely philip. Dorsey is nice role player as three or four. Which is what he'll be now. You have your first round picnic. He'll harry <hes>. I think the receiver position is the last of belgium's concerned. This is a team that started kimbro tompkins aaron dobson for for ten games in a season or starting jabbar gaping rochelle caldwell in the a._f._c. championship gotcha so this grew they had gronk for a lot of all all those you they did but they also have james white and like kevin faulk had those years where it's kim was just around forever but every four or five years he would just catch seventy five passes because they need him too and to me. That's james white this year. Sony michelle's reportedly looked pretty good. They got enough pat assuming that settlement is ready for week. One where we at that is that still on he suited up for practice just return for the first time today so it looks like he's trending that way. Who is i. Don may not be ready for week one. I'm not assuming that i'm not i mean yes. They have have more depth than perhaps people realize but i'm still not blown away by the group. I'm curious who's the ottoman out because i've heard <hes> hosanna sung over maurice harris of course jacoby myers tires dorset as we said the rookie harry damaris thomas i assume is in trouble now. He has not been activated in might thought would be. He'll be stashed on the p._e._p. List and see if they need him midway through the season and yeah maurice harris might be more of a special teamer but he he's heard right now could be on the bubble. I would you leave like a seventeen hundred yard wide receivers all i said was he's going to have a nice. Actually there is no bubble. There's such a what's a bubble. I think he makes the team keeps. Did you say five hundred and fifty yards over under for wide receivers but that was pretty gordon but i stand by it. <hes> let's shoot down to washington and talk about the redskins <hes> <hes> who have some quarterback decisions to make jay gruden does cult mccoy who suffered that broken leg last year. It seemed like one of those injuries were all it'll be fine the next year but now it's a situation where mccoy might not be ready until two to three weeks into the season gruden conceded <hes> according to e._s._p._n. Dot com and then you have the case of dwayne haskins. The first round rookie verses the veteran case keenum <hes> e._s._p._n.'s adam schefter reported that that this is trending towards keenum now marxist later as the starter does that make sense to you based on what we've seen so far from haskins yeah i mean i i've seen good good good stuff from haskins he to me i like his armies also not looked completely comfortable that left tackle situation like adrian peterson mentioned has has i think toyed with all these quarterbacks joe cole mccoy you know he he has the faith of of gruden and i think this is probably the closest shot. He had to starting starting a week one game in many many years and maybe ever again and what's happened with when he first broke his leg. They initially thought if i'm not mistaken the he even come back last season and in play at the end of the year he tried to try to and then it turns into this really rough situation with three additional surgeries and he's even visiting dr robert anderson who has no idea what's going on with the leg either so this can end career. It's been it. It's hard not to think about trent williams being upset at the medical staff in washington when you hear that he's had to have three follow up surgeries other j. gruden's kind of put it on colt mccoy trying to get back to soon. Can you feel bad for him. But this is a mess i mean this is going as whatever they envision for three way battle wherever they had it in their head. I think they're fairly close to a worse case scenario areo although haskins looking solid is the one positive you had you know a beautiful touchdown passes last preseason game and i i think that gruden this goes back to. We're talking to hot-button rankings on friday. He's has to walk a very fine line where gouden has to is charged with developing haskins and getting behind the rookie which makes a lot of sense. He's a first around pick but he's also got to win. Games have any chance to keep his job so you can understand why keenum might be more appetizing choice at this time <hes> so good luck to you. <unk> jay gruden moving on the philadelphia eagles have added another quarterback to their room and it is josh mccown who comes out of retirement the forty your oldest spent the last couple of seasons with the jets joins the eagles a team. That's dealing with injuries behind carson. Wentz nate sud failed. He has a broken wrist to his non. Throwing arm. Cody kessler exited their second preseason game. A concussion protocol clayton thorson was the only guy left to finish the the last game so now you bring aback josh mccown greg i as a jets fan i can tell you that there has been no shortage of thoughtful will and <hes> entertaining slash enlightening think pieces about what a great man and teammate josh mccown is but i will tell you he got a decent amount of action in the last two years of just. I don't know if he could play anymore in fact. I don't think he can play really at all and i'm just i'm surprised that this was the move that the eagles made when you have cody kessler chesler is your backup for now. I think you just look at them account as someone who would be great to help out carson wentz. They said this in new york too. He's practically just like an extra extra cubic right so i think that's the idea string guy. He's got a t._v. Future but i see him as potential n._f._l. Head coach down the road as the backup ought the backup for now until maybe when felt gets healthy. They like seinfeld bread. It's like when you have if kesslers got your back up and he's got a concussion anyway. It's like well why you're not winning any game. Ah kessler is going to be a problem anyways. Yesler and clayton thorson are gone. That's my read on the situation and you guys know mccown fan. He was cooked last year. He was done he better in two thousand seventeen. Though last year was problematic but he wasn't not throws anymore and i think south should be back by the end of september. It really likes till two. I i think he'll be the number two and maybe they keep josh mccown. Just the play that player coach ruler whatever i mean to keep going back to this well but sinn r._p._o. Offense colin l. capita doesn't get a look with this team. Who does it look with. It's a good question. I thought about that you know because as vocal progressive and owner as there is in the n._f._l. All and as vocally progressive a team <hes> locker room as there is so you're right if feed wouldn't get a sniff in this spot. It's it's probably not going to happen. Let's move on <hes> the tampa bay. Buccaneers made a move with jason light their general manager. Mike garafolo reported saturday that the buck zayn their g._m. To a five year extension through twenty twenty three steals actually worked out in january <hes> just after tampa named bruce arians begins their new head coach so they want line the g._m. And the head coach <hes> this one surprises me a little bit greg because what exactly exactly has jason light done to deserves a strong word so let's just say to get a new contract extension in tampo. This is one of the biggest most apprising news items of the entire month for me. I mean it's probably a bad sign. If you need to saturday afternoon news dump your g._m. Getting a contrast you know what i mean like your f- i honestly think that what you mean honestly think that was the strategy here was. They didn't want it to get too much attention. It seems like they ownership likes that. Light helped bring arians in because of their past relationship but what is the rush here. I i get the aligning that that makes sense and that let's find out a year in how well they worked together and jason lights record is twenty seven fifty three with a couple concerning draft picks in there. You spent a second round run a kicker that is working at a fast food restaurant right now and on top of it like i'm not totally sold on jameis winston on any level which fast food restaurant no i'll. I'll research that i'm not sure which one he's been to a few. I always think their roster looks better than the record but that record right. It's pretty spotty. I think he's gotten a lot of good media publicity for building a talented roster which you could argue for against now. That's a quarterback effect. I think that affects ownership in some way that's vote for playing the media game. I just a real news impact from this. Though is i think jameis winston a much better chance of getting a long term deal now just because lights the one that drafted him and if if he had a clean solid year which is a huge if basically almost never happens for the bucks but or winston but if that happened this year. I think they'll resign them. Injury news the seahawks are counting on decay metcalf. You have to have an instant impact for them at wide receiver the second round pick who had been getting raves from everyone inside the building about his progress <hes> the summer. You're well that progress has been halted by a knee injury suffered it <hes> and practice last week <hes> late last week and he'll be undergoing a surgery. That's let's pete carroll intimated that it wasn't a major surgery something that will cannot keep them off the off the field for too long. Maybe a scope who knows knows <hes> but the idea that he won't miss too much action but mark anytime a rookie wide receiver gets taken out of the mix when he's trying to get those valuable rapson as an playing time. It's not a good thing especially in seattle where they really need metcalf. They i mean they're wideout group. We you know we talk about new england's. I be equally concerned about seattle's battles and i know that they want to run the ball. 'til you know endlessly but jerry brown david morrissey. I like david moore but what who is your true game changing white out here tyler lock. It's good but i don't to me when you look at the seahawks. This is a perfect example. Why schedule analysis is mostly useless us. It's when you play a team and just like last september. You wanna play the seahawks early in the year really sad news out of austin in texas over the weekend former n._f._l. Running back cedric benson died in a motorcycle cycle crash. He was thirty six years old. <hes> benson and a passenger <hes> collided with a car at an intersection and <hes> benson and the passenger were pronounced dead at the scene gene benson came into the league as a high draft pick with the chicago bears. It never worked out in chicago. In fact it was as bad as poor as it can go for a guy that was as high as drastic as benson was but he ended up bouncing around the league in <hes> hanging around for for awhile including stop west with your cincinnati bengals where he had a one thousand yard seasons. I remember him having a big playoff game against the jets one year so he had some moments. Maybe didn't live up to <hes> what was expected did of him when he was drafted in the top five but <hes> cedric benson had a lot of people that thought highly of aaron rodgers to name one of them who played briefly briefly with benson said he used to sit with benson <hes> during training camp in during the season at a cafeteria table and talk about you know life sports. It's anything he's one of those guys. You could <hes> really talk about anything with so really sad to hear that cedric benson passed away at age thirty six that sort of puts it in perspective that anecdote about aaron rodgers who during his career has seen old school power backs like cedric benson become an endangered species esiason just in the span of twelve thirteen years this guy would have no chance of going in the top ten in the draft with his skill set now right that was the same draft ronnie ronnie williams and cadillac ronnie brown and cadillac williams all and cedric benson all went the top five draft. Hell i guess you could compare them to leonard for an so. Maybe ah i have to take that back. Yeah that draft change running backs reviewed but benson i mean he had a he started five or six playoff games for the bengals and had three seasons as in straight over eleven super bowl fifty yards like he had his moments. He was punched. Thomas jones. I think he would admit he had some <hes> problems with immaturity early in his career but he was always kind of a person who thought deeply about things in interviews going back to college. He's probably more legendary for his high school. Known as maybe one of the great texas high school players of all times and one of the great settings of texas longhorns of all time i'm an and everyone who talked about always always said how thoughtful and smarty was. It's the football side of it but then you know this is someone who's just lost the chance to probably be on the planet for another fifty fifty sixty years and was renowned as having an incredibly engaging personality and it would have been the post career would be just as interesting as anything ever did as a player cedric benson dead at the age of thirty six that is what is happening in the news all right. Let's check out the rest of the <hes> takeaways from preseason week to which by the way and there's always things to talk about of course <hes> but it it is becoming more and more a farce these games in terms of the coaches that are all following the sean mcveigh plan of resting not not a handful <hes> not ten some twenty of their regular players <hes> because they just don't see the value in putting out there for the risk. This is all coming to ahead. I feel like with the c._p._a. But anyway that that is a discussion for perhaps another time greg how about some takeaways from the games on friday saturday and sunday. I guess i want to start with west guy chase who oh man. I've got a whole paragraph on this go. I just want to you you go because it feels less bias talking about a patriots player well. I sent some <hes> consternation for mark and dan about the state of preseason play and if you're tired of watching the maget pier on scene unable to make anyone missing the open field. If you're tired of watching ryan griffin's pop gun arm unleashing creepers all over the field kind i find your favorite relaxing and dial up game pass for chase win pitch in the second and third quarter against the titans. This guy is a terror screaming off the edge. Almost every single play the titans are trying to get a good look at their fancy new backup quarterback ryan tannehill and win of it is single handedly dismantling their offense. It's like watching rambo. He's up in the trees. He's the cave. He's down by the water late. How many are out there and then i'm watching it on like i gotta go back and watch the first the opener so i'm fast forward gordon through here and i see the lions or i see the other team complete a pass and i'm like well can't be he's not on the field yet because they wouldn't be complete and passes with this guy out out there. It's like you. Your defense should get extra points for scoring when win on the field. You know i it's hard. It's hard for me to really get excited about turning on a game that involves the titans but i did because of what you said wes and i believe it was tyler martinez. Who is the right tackle that just had no answers for chase he it was a a grotesque clown suit being put on the man as mark once that he was fashioning multicolored clowns for this man on every play. I go back to watch the first i game. I finally find the win. He's doing the same thing against. Can we cut through the preseason malarkey and is this guy really a player or is it who's playing against then is he. Gonna have a role in the stevens. Where where are we at with well. Here's where's what we know. Your backup. Tackle has prayer against this guy. We don't know what he can do. You can starting tackles because we haven't seen it yet but he is in a different class thing than anybody's back. It's a position they really could use someone to step up and they've been talking up. <hes> <hes> derek river is a little bit and and they picked up a guy from the raiders sleek calhoun who's had a good camp <hes> but i think you'll have a absolutely have a role in this dolphins. They don't really have outside pass rushers. It's what they need more than anything and their rookie class not to be too much of a home but it's right now. They haven't had many good rookie. Classes is lately between jacoby myers who had to be taken off the field at one point during the joint practices with the titans because they wanted brady. They wanted to force brady to throw to someone one else because just to kobe myers everything and he's been great in the pre two between him. John williams looks good at cornerback and then jarrett stidham they've had they have a nice young crap which they kind of needed win. Already already has a trademark. This is my last comment on him. You talk about it all day patriots. You're passionate about keep talking well when he beat you over and over again and i'm talking like five plays in a row and this guy is shutting down your offense in beating your right tackle switch him over to left tackle beats him. Here's the trademark you just suplex him. You're tired of him. <hes> in your quarterback so you take a tight end or tackle picked the guy up suplex get called for a blatant holding penalty. At least he's getting rob dink vich comparisons from from what i've seen too but he sounds more like rodney village made out of iron goal buys lazy. I don't buy like a edge rusher type. Absolutely i thought i might be overreacting so i went to pro football focus and looked at his great for this game. It's it's in the area where you only see aaron donald j. j. great and he only played out to give it. It's really not exaggerating that. It's one of the great preseason performances i've ever seen. I don't know what that means. I no one's ever won the the vaunted preseason m._v._p. Award handed out at the end of every preseason but when one of its got. It's the greatest preseason game i've ever seen by a rookie the pass rush i get goosebumps thinking of the trophy ceremonies accent or handing it over a big trophy. That's that's fair and lakisha jackson wesseling. If you're listening to this podcast you know what to get west for christmas. Well does that dick jersey's. Not the seventy five dollar. Replicas has the two hundred dollar job. I'm not going to be wearing a jurist all right. I'll throw it out there and then greg them to become to you but i want you to actually talk about something that does not up west why we plan our just that was the most to me. It was kind of a blah preseason week building ending up to west end and there was like you know quarterback talks. We're gonna talk about charley casserly without later but there wasn't much. I didn't have a ton but i do have i i am. I'm ready okay. You're on deck. No i changed my mind. You're up okay yeah. Look at this. Let's talk tony pollard because i think that was a big takeaway from the weekend. How how about fifty scrimmage yards in that first drive that they're using the fourth round pick for the cowboys between the tackles. I think he's looked solid. He made it a a couple really nice plays yet. He's had some big holes and i think it's just interesting topic because the comment that jerry jones said about z. coup which apparently is annoyed annoyed zeke elliot and his agent. If you watch it in context it really was he wasn't trying to offend them and i don't think the cow the cowboys know that this guy probably isn't really capable of carrying the load he was the third running back in college behind their including behind darrell henderson the rams rookie and he only had what was it seventy carries last year. He's never had more than that and i don't know if he's really alvin kamara type who when he gets the n._f._l. Can actually increases workloads. I think a little bit of this pollard. Hype is a nice player to add to that offense and i think they need it to have more weapons but it'd be a totally different if you're playing in the regular season giving him twenty carries what jerry winning on the scoreboard versus zeke pretty handily right now and it's a big reason why but to me you get excited if you're the cowboys zeke will eventually be back bright and now you've got this hybrid player who's kind of half running back slot and that's what's good in the n._f._l. Right now. I want to talk about some hill who you know this. This is entry so he's been like a fun little gadget player for the saints and maybe that's just what he'll continue to be but then you see things again the preseason lies as they all say but then you see what he did against the chargers so he comes in at the half or teddy bridgewater who looked terrible but he was also six. We're gonna we're gonna give teddy a pass on this <hes> but then he'll goes off and he just lights up l._a. With his legs and with his arm comeback win the whole thing it does it makes me think that where tastes haysom ill is at a player as a player right now which is obviously exciting electrifying potentially if sean payton the offense of genius that he is that there's not a bunch of stuff rattling around in his mind about what he could possibly do to to add to his offense moving forward and that and i'm wondering what that would mean in terms of hill getting more snaps potentially drew brees getting less as a result and how that would sit with brees. If that's that's even a question if that's even something peyton would broach with drew brees but it just seems like some hills somebody that could add just yet another level to this offense beyond what we've seen the last year or i think he for me and i had the similar note dan i had i wrote the taste hill makes football fund. I loved his performance. He seems so comfortable out there. He's versatile. He's is confident and it just makes me glad that he's on a team like the saints with sean payton's mind versus him being couched on the detroit lions where we would essentially never see him again because certain teams just wouldn't know what to do with them. I got there last year to some degree of his role expanding and being such an x factor. It's a great question. How do you how do you you get more of him on the field because he's that valuable that interesting well. He's let it be known to the beat writers there in the announcers of the of the saints game he champions compared him to steve young that he might be our steve young. He keeps saying he said that and it's been a little below the radar but they've been talking about how this year has third year here. They haven't done any gadget plays at all and camp because they said we can do. We can practice. Those in the regular. Season camp is all about him as a quarterback and they think he's really made strides as a real l. quarterback in this camp i mean anybody that knows football knows what happened was steve what happened with the guy who's played behind went pretty well. Is that where this is headed. I mean gene stays listen again. He's going against all third and fourth stringers balancers and u._p._s. Drivers funny nine years old which is under the radar that is under the rate didn't realize the sean. I think sean payton thinks he has a real chance to succeed drew brees which is interesting. I think he's kind of letting that be known that he thinks he's young was around thirty years old when he finally got a chance as well mark zeltser <hes> have one guy i want to mention quickly is cleveland's mac wilson the linebacker who over two games has been a playmaking machine and it's not just in the games all camp all paul all all these practices that i've been going on. He has been raved about an. It's just it's i you know they needed someone to come in at linebacker and do what he's doing so good start for him and for all all the issues with the preseason and it is a tough product and then there's no reason for us to anyone we don't. We just be totally honest but that it needs fixes. One thing that i saw all that i would like to see more of in the preseason was having andrew. Cecilia no gets sean mcveigh on the headset during a rams defensive series and it you know it's such a covert coach culture. The coaches and you don't really get to hear what they're doing during games very often unless it's like bill parcells swearing at a ref or something but it was incredible. It was a brief segment to hear mcveigh just break down what he was seen and he was so just informative and interesting. I want like hours of that. The needs to be like a television station that offers that the entire game. We're never gonna get it because it's it's. It's they're never going to allow to happen but it wouldn't. It made football so much four interesting. I i like that too. I did tweet it out last night that i couldn't figure out who's sean mcvay sounded like and then it light bulbs frigging bon on jovi and if you know what bon jovi sounds likely talks. Check it out. If you're interested. You'll never see you'll never hear sean mcvay the same way <hes> it's exactly the same voice there are many mcveigh's as though that would be that dynamic and compelling and be able to mentally to be able to speak that well and meant i mean it wasn't credible edible to hear out quickly mentally processes from that view everything that's happening and i think most. I think most coaches probably could mentally process things but they couldn't explain blaine it. Verbally that was doing it to just loves recite we weren't we weren't learn a lot about crisis that we think we already have book on. Here's the thing though mcveigh okay i think one underrated thing about him and i noticed zack taylor's absolutely in the same old and he was under mcvay mcvay is incredibly transparent in he has has been since day one he gives you injury information and actually no one even makes a big deal like talk. He tells you who's playing. He tells you who's playing in the preseason. Who's not like like and i noticed that taylor. He's just transparent because he's confident any realizes so much of this stuff that coaches aren't transparent about doesn't matter and i love in. Here's my number one takeaway from that whole exercise who in the entire football world is capable of criticizing sean mcveigh. You watch that and you think any analyst on tv anyone writing anybody on twitter. You think you're going to criticize sean mcvay <hes> luckily no-one has he got a a little bit of it after the super bowl late in the super bowl but we don't have people at that people criticize. You know like i said because it's been all oh you know bouquets sunshine bouquet well that game though for me the rams were a little annoying me because they got good so quickly and suddenly everyone was in love. I think they're much more intriguing now because they have to show it is when you have to do the job of coach and mcvay i think it's shown from personnel oh and from an organizational standpoint how strong of a leader is <hes> <hes> one more real quick one and then we gotta go run a little a lot when maybe we'll hit on on it with charlie but i'll give my two cents and daniel johns which is that if i was a giants fan i would love what i see because he i know he's going against the second team offense not they're not <music> game plan on all this stuff but he's doing things like changing the plays changing the tempo which they did in young quarterbacks aren't necessarily that great at their rookie quarterback's where they go from mhm slow too fast and then back to slow the fast and he's doing that. He's going to his third read and it's those things you see. You don't normally see from a rookie quarterback. He just seems very together. Together into performance had to turn over stu so i'm not it's not like it was a perfect game forum by any means but man. If i was a giants fan i'd be excited <hes> <hes> real quick. I'm kind of in the same boat as you guys that. I think the bills could surprise people this year especially of josh allen develops and he looked good against the panthers. There is and keep an eye out on cole beasley p._r. Leagues you forget about that guy <hes> but e- they they have <hes> they've been targeted. He's been targeted six times in the two preseason games six six catches for about seventy yards. That could be a nice combo <hes> <hes>. I'm treating this like the preseason my own farm team and i'm trying to get jim miller job the game analyst for the chicago bears. He's also on sirius x._m. N._f._l. radio former bears steelers quarterback. This guy is fantastic. Play heus well informed. He's got a genial personality. He knows the quarterback position inside and out. He is better. He's like tuning into a game at lambeau field or mile mile high the ambiance better. When jim miller's involved he's better than all but three or four guys nationally. I'll stand car love that brian baldinger. We the obvious one that loves football. If you're watching his tape work in his breakdowns they're awesome. They're there brief enough where you can catch a few of them like the day after the games and i thought that he appropriately shredded what he saw from the detroit lions in their last outing in go and you can just go. I'll let you go watch it but he sort of goes case by case on four or five players looked completely like they're out to lunch and there are players on the ground wide receivers getting hit in the back of the ahead and even though the ball's coming their way and i realized it's the preseason but they've got josh johnson in there running bizarre college scheme stuff that will never be used again with matthew after you stafford and i just enjoyed his rant he i have questions about the lions have had for a long time. Where is your identity. What is your identity and he just went into them and i kind of liked liked it it. That's part of where like you're sitting on your starters in the preseason and this is what happens. Sometimes you lose your your pretty weak backup quarterback. Tom savage assigned jess johnson. You refuse to play matthew stafford so you play. They play josh johnson three days after he signs in a preseason game made him play like most of the game. It's like kinda like it's redskins and charging full price for those games giving break at least they they could block somebody in that game nine sacks in the first game against the patriots. The did pass protect better well yeah. Give him that positive note. The lions are wasting. Everyone's time with this preseason but that's true of several teams all right good job guys good analysis real pros pros. Let's move on all right. It's time to welcome a very special guest. Last time he was on the show he was in the studio. This time we have to settle for the phone but we're very excited sided to have him. He is a former general manager. He's got he's got three so rodents. You kidding me. We got one. We put that one in a back closet because we lost that one but we got three winters and now you know the voice now he works for n._f._l. Network is a analysts charley casserly. Welcome back to the around the n._f._l. Podcast it'd be with you guys excited about it. Yes absolutely charlie. It's great to have you on because you're on fire. You got a lot of things you want to talk about and and we want to talk about them with you so we we want to get right to it and talk a little bit about the dallas cowboys <hes> topic that obviously will always have a lot of intrigue here the america's team angle and all that and they have what they what they have a tricky situation as a former the g._m. Charlie when you look at the situation for zeke holding out dak wants money reportedly forty million and amari cooper wants his money. How do you play play this. <hes> put put us in the g._m. Shoes here well. I think what the cowboys have done. I would have done the same thing <hes> giving them. All really a good offers <hes> amari cooper somewhere. My guess is somewhere to seventeen to eighteen million <hes> because they say he's in the top five so okay <hes>. I think they did the right thing. Then he has one year to go on his contract so if he's not side and you have the free agent tag you can <hes> the franchise the franchise next ship. My god is that thing gets done <hes> on back <hes> i think they've offered him according to reports that i've been able to verify <hes> over thirty million million dollars now. We'll come back to him in the second week. They offered him number two money number. Two money can be anywhere between thirteen to fourteen million dollars apt. I understand the cowboys. They never lost the player they wanted. Jerry jones knows how to make a deal but if nobody's gonna go share with you and your other stance because nobody's doing anything you're only gonna go so far and you're going to have some room at the end and remember that the general manager there has the backing of the owner. That's crucial because juries general manager so in answer to anybody in this thing. That's gotta be unique situation so i don't see why the zeke thing doesn't get done at some point. What i was told us he did not avenue attention and reporting to training the old save your body threat here now he loses the credited season because it comes in after august fifth or sixth date is with that is important too big pictures if he does that next year. He's not a free agents. He'll will have three credits years so this is kind of the one shot to sit out <hes> but but again. I think they're close. There has to get done now. <hes> dax here's unique thing about him. All the quarterback numbers and all the big time the players <hes> who are up the threat of the franchise say causes them to get a contract not their ability causes didn't get twenty eight million sandy. L. is a year <hes> because of his ability he got it because it became a free agent but the franchise numbers kept forcing him up so his dad died he he told me estimated twenty nine million dollars if they franchise next year if he doesn't do an extension then it becomes about thirty five million dollars if he gets the third third year it becomes tricky one million dollars so the agent says for three franchise thanks. That's thirty eight million dollars a year. This is all theory now okay but this is what happens happen. See the team will look at two years twenty nine thirty five thirty two million dollar average. Most feels come in somewhere around that two year average. Maybe a little bit more now. Is this guy worth thirty million dollars. Not my opinion isn't what am out there. In the open market. He's not a thirty million dollar quarterback but the franchise tag thank forces you into heat assigning sky or finding an alternate. They don't have an alternate. The agency he's working for has a history of saying. Let's go play. Those franchise. Franchise stakes out what's gonna happen. Here has got to come in and say to the agent. I wanna get this deal done. I wanna be a cowboys. Guess what thirty plus million dollars there's enough. <hes> and i think that's kind of what's going to happen. That's my bet so going back to cowboys. Did the right thing. Aggressive offers room to work very very good choice. I mean if you had to lose. One of these guys. Wes i mean is it. Is it conceivable to have all these three. These guys is under big contracts. Is it smart business wise. I mean well. Here's your model seats cole where i wanted to do this. They had the highest. I play quarterback in football <hes> anytime he did a contract okay. They had marvin harrison dwight franey. Okay and all of them were big time. Contracts okay ed graham james. He was on a rookie contract. He was the fourth guy it was forty percent of their cap. They were able to win consistently and compete for the championship every get patriots didn't exist with bela track. They would've won a bunch of more championships so the formula zapped with a certain percentage. You'd be a cap a lot of your top players now. What has to happen here. Though is the offense has to be dynamic that demarcus lawrence britain there okay so he's he's already paid for one pass rusher colts also had franey okay. They had mathis so they had a second pass rusher. So what you have to do is decide. You're gonna win an offense rush the passer and ramp wealth for everybody we also you won't keep everybody else. Maybe a couple of workers are closer to more good players. Have we reached a point where every franchise quarterback expects expects to become the highest paid quarterback in the n._f._l. When his contract is up what happened to guys like let's say andy dalton or even kapernick five years ago. Alex smith like there was a second tier which i believe dak falls under as a player what happened to that tier. Is it nonexistent anymore. You know it. It has <hes> eliminated itself and i don't know if it comes back. <hes> i guess we'll find out if it comes back because you got <hes> mar marcus mariota james jamerson winston <hes> those guys are in the position really of jack. I mean they're going to be free. Agents did the only the the only reason i disagree with you. Charlie that i think actually made the free agent market he would get a thirty five million dollars. See that's the thing with these quarterbacks you say they're not people aren't worth it but if they actually got an open market where there's multiple teams bidding and i'm with you on not really seen doc necessarily as a top ten quarterback at all but his numbers are great that the cowboys are gonna pay. They know they're going to pay and if he got out there just the fact that enough teams are missing quarterback act somewhat as much. You're worth as much as you're going to get and i do wonder what the next c._b._a. Like that hanging out over these negotiations what impact that that has to well. I think on the next c._v._a. You're going to see a strong push for the owners to have some kind of stronger repercussions about guys under contract not showing up. I think that's that's gonna be high on their list. Now you're right when it only takes one team the pay data <hes> when you're talking teams to play the cowboys they didn't. They want the ball in the hands of that. They don't want to hand zeke elliot. The guy that beats them and and cooper is a good player <hes> there's other coopers in the league but they were lacking one and and he may have made a difference for all right. Let's stick the category of <hes> quarterbacks and <hes> you know your your what they call a real tape tape jockey charlie. You chew up that tape. No one's ever said that nickname but uh-huh anyway but you've been watching these rookie quarterbacks and i'm sure you have some real takes on we talked about earlier during our news segment about dwayne haskins in in how the redskins quarterback situation shaping up <hes>. What have you seen from him through two games. It's kind of a mixed bag. You see the highlights <hes> you you see some deep. Throw some big time arm throws. You see a little bit of everything. Positive you see some timing throws you see him. <hes> make plays outside the pocket you if you see a few reads but then you see everything else the biggest issue we had two games is an accuracy which is his footwork is working. The first game was not very good at all. It was a little bit better but he doesn't tend to step through on throws an insert with his front foot therefore sometimes he's coming off the front foot without a step he's up on its toes and the ball sales so that's one <hes> you'll see misreads like last week. He took a sock. When people were open <hes> he bailed on a pocket where people were open <hes> so it's it's a combination of inconsistency in all phases now. They're giving them the entire offense. They're not trying to find something that he can work with. They're giving them everything checks the line the long burgers right and they're giving them a lot of playtime and i think the idea is he's not going to start the season at some point what's going to happen. Okay okay keenum will start the season <hes> at some point. This guy probably will play and then you know what he what he could do and could do preseason. You'll scale it back and zero rolling on the things we can do for example. I think he's only one or two arpaio's. I would think you'll get a lotta r._p._o.'s if he has to play speaking of guys is it would be dynamic in an r._p._o. Situation cuyler murray whose <hes> a lot of people are excited about clip kingsbury and murray and arizona now he came back to earth a little bit in the second back in preseason game definitely was able to move the ball and had some issues with the clap snap charlie. Take us behind the scenes. What are people saying about that. Clap snap app. Is that a real thing to be worried about <hes> for rugged i have. I haven't called the n._f._l. Gets their version of it and <hes>. It wasn't an issue when the officials officials came into practice. It wasn't an issue in week one. It wasn't issue in week two and house interpreted when you read the rule sounds like it's totally an interpretation of of what they you see on the field. What i saw was in the first game was not. I didn't study everyone but collapsed. Snap clap snap well. You don't think the defense gets the kiss zack so <hes> <hes>. We'll have to see how they interpret it. You don't know anything to me about this guy in two games for this reason number one. I don't think they're running. The offense you see in week one man up. Everyone could have been five out of six thrown. No doubt i'll tell you about six six. It was mixed out of this guy. That's true get those feet down was outside the pocket to still to me. They're not running the offense that we're going to see the one that he knows <hes>. You got a lot of blessing this week. They weren't ready for the blitz. Okay now you have to good plays versus pressure. He misses the deep throws. I thought he was elected. By the rushie was inaccurate on a bootleg he bailed with pressure and we had an open receiver so so it was not a good performance at all again. I don't think there was obviously game planning and i'm not sure this is the offense we're going to. Let's put you on the spot then. This isn't the offense we're going to see it is kylie kylo. Murli murray more likely to do what r._g. Three and kyle shanahan did to the n._f._l. Early in the season or are is that team so oh talent deficient that they're likely to struggle coming out of the gates. It's a great question because your second half of it is the appendix to it about <hes> <hes> you know they can't stop the run so people can play ball control and keep them on the bench. <hes> and it'd be interesting because they're playing. I haven't the first two games with detroit patricia coordinator and then you go to baltimore martindale who good coordinate when i talk about talent i was coordinated because you're gonna and i have to come out and defend something that you really not sure what you're gonna. Defend bulletin is an edge but at least they'll have some film and <hes> so that's gonna be the thing there. I'm excited. I'd say i'm more excited to watch them on opening day then a game in the league. Hey now just to see what happens and i don't have a feel how it's going to go. I really don't try this. This is this is going to be. This is gonna sound sick but my colleagues my right greg rosenthal for half of his life his favorite team the patriots has had tom brady karbi coming up the n._f._l. Being rings it's a disgrace i if he asked me charlie that embarrassment of richards and then we you know you and i are going back forth and email before the show forgot what we're gonna be talking about and you've got all these positive notes jarret stidham no charlie. I can't have another good quarterback. We need a decade of stink coming from that positional room. You know what i'm saying. Okay why do stood him well. This guy's employed brady's forty two going on thirty. Two looks like like he's twenty two okay. That's suspicious at all by the way charlie yeah you're right. There is something in a joking matter now the joke i mean the guy doesn't make top dollar and he's forty two and he's still beating people. What is something here now anyway. It's next named joe. Hardy looked at that one up for you okay now. That's a joke now joe hardy. I wrote it down google. You'll be interested in research drug outy but anyway. It's a joke sports fans all right very good man. They wouldn't do it but here's a great he's. He doesn't have a contract for next year which nobody's taking that seriously because fairly he'll be back with the patriots but you never know but somehow they gotta have a guy to replace this guy at some point and stadiums the rookie so by the time brady's forty five. This guy will have some experience but i was excited about why i didn't know what i was gonna see college at talented throw but the pressure kilt. This guy was not good versus pressure. I hadn't had a lot of pressure in new england first week conservative but really played well and i did a social posts on it. He had brady outbreak bounces in the pocket and he never goes anywhere. Nobody ever touches him because he's got great says this guy kind of look. The same always make good decisions. He's been accurate with the football aw <hes> so i've been impressed with the guy now the guy had two interceptions were dropped okay last week so the stats are a little deceiving but overall poise accuracy office better surprise to me. Well greg is and you're pumping his fist. This concerns me that it would be sort of a brett farve aaron rodgers taper off too early to tell it imagine <hes> before we let you go charlie last thing you were a member of the competition committee for eight years a and this pass interference rule which we've talked about on the show there there seems to be some type internal power struggle from where we're sitting where you know the owners pass this rule after you know the trauma of the n._f._c. title game and now the officials the way they're officiating it so far in the preseason. There's an <music> obvious disconnect here. What what are your takeaways been and if you were still in the competition committee if knowing what you know now midway through august. Would you have gotten behind this. Here's what would have happened. I was the most liberal guy on the committee was yes on every <hes> instant replay vote. I didn't even hear the question. I've ordered the opposite of mike brown. Can i cut my mike and i just cancel each other out the last time it was like samuel jackson bruce willis and unbreakable. There had to be a each side of this election all right. If you wanna talk history in the national football all we get him on. It'll never come on but he's a tremendous tremendous person. Now here's the thing i would have been liberal and then i saw the tape that we we saw <hes> at our n._f._l. Network summit and i sat there and said and i sent a text to somebody is high level at the n._f._l. I said this is a mess. That's okay i it is. I would never have voted for it. We the obvious one is obvious now. We were always told one play does not change the rule you you have to have a history of it and as i sat there and i remember i i know how they think and i saw that and i said no. That's that's it and and alan. I couldn't i agree on it right. He's saying the other one all the way. The committee works is we would sit there and vote on these things and if we were getting seven one eight no which that's what it would take to change something then we would change it and tell the officials officiating. This is how you calling based on what we see now a lot of time so there was a disconnect because the officials don't wanna take that advice. Here's what i see happening now on. I'd never have this because there's too many what ifs and it's not clear okay. I think they're going to go with the clear one and everything else. They're going to stay in line and they're gonna stay where it is my gut on this thing. That's the that's what i think they've been told to do. Do i don't know that's going to happen. It's going to vary from one last thing on the redskin game last week. This is now. I'm watching it on television. Like all of us would what game there's a call offensive pass interference. The replay shows the receiver coming back for the ball. Okay nothing wrong with that. However over the flag was thrown on a twenty yards of head of it the t._b. Kudos to know that and there's no coverage on the t._v. Copy to show it so they can't overturn it so they say the call holds and everybody on television is confused. You know i texted the league and we cleared it up but i wasn't on television so so here's something that's a coach i see this. I think that's the penalty against my player coming back. I sorta flying well. Guess what it's not it. There's something on there so they lose the call there i to me too many ones that you can't be sure on that. The officials couldn't see it the same way i would never vote for this <hes> and i was a liberal all all right to charlie joe hardy whose joe hardy he's from the hardy boys right charlie not come on. You guys what what's okay lemony yankee fans. They're damn yankees but i'm not familiar with that that way. It's it's from damn yankees. Joe hardy's hardy's washington senator fan. The senators are in last place. The double comes to him and says i can give you the pennant joe. No your your soul to me. He knows his soul and then joe hardy turns into this young guy nobody ever heard of walks out walks out of the sticks like <hes> you know <hes> field of dreams in iowa and all of a sudden starts hitting home runs and drives the senators all the way and this is what i remember the punchline is he's rounding third are based on the <hes> the home run to put up in the world series and all of a sudden he turns into joe hardy again guys drinking a beer watching in a game and i don't know how it is. The devil hasn't caught up to. Tom waits a who's joe hardy jarret stidham or tom brady. I hope to brady was just brady and ask joe hardy. We've got another twenty years joke good family christian band. I'm sure charlie has to say that. I i don't okay so you choose which side you wanna believe charley casserly. You're the man n._f._l. Network follow him on twitter what does that twitter handle again charlie that host surly castellini and charlie's l. e. y. They got strong instagram game as well charlie. Gets it bottom line. Thank you man. Thank you charlie about charleena taking it up. I was in the weeds joe hardy. I got the honest with you but it makes a lot of sense to me. There's no one there's no one like charlie that mean to to me the when he said sports fans that was my yes. Hey sports fans. He keeps certain things alive like like my my uncle bill who would come to family parties and and we'd deep shooting hoops in my driveway and he'd come out and and hit ten out of ten underhanded free throws like there are people like charlie that are keeping things alive and one of them is joe hardy references to things like sports fans z. We love train west by the way you are correct one of the hardest one of the boys sleuths so the hardy boys was joe hardy also broad-shouldered. It was also an entrepreneur and the founder and c._e._o. Eighty four lumber company. I didn't know i had to go back. Further even in the hardy boys <hes> what finally found somebody on the show deeper guys. We are dennis miller announcing. Yes i get get your cha-cha all right. We'll be back on wednesday and a remember. Wednesday is yes. We got a big fish. Got a huge food. Fish real come out in. I haven't selva is getting in the boat formerly of rota world now of established the run which is a hot new website and that is a surname sound effect that we've incorporated that is a real. I get what i take your disconnected from the fray and if people don't like i like people only know evan through his twitter account i mean he is a real big fish. Just physically maybe be the largest man writing about football in these entire united states and arguably in the game. Oh yeah like nagler. I think his breath of knowledge is up there with everyone. He's got his hand in college. Football the draft analytics fantasy fifty f. s. shape watching camblain lane so when we have our annual fantasy extravaganza we get the biggest fish in the boat so we'll have on the show wednesday excited about that so with all your drafts coming up be excited and a return of course to mark's fantasy corner which i understand. There's been some gentrification. You know listen i can't i can't control the way neighborhoods grow in y'all but there has been some changes right well. We'll get to that. I'm sure on wednesdays well all right. We should all raid sullies closet for our favorite fishing sure absolutely <hes> we miss you saw all right. Let's go this is dan heads of signing off four quiet storm the mailman and the old boss rick hollywood behind the glass. Thanks again to charley casserly. Can you not wreck. I was wondering along.

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Dak's Prescott's quest for 40, Antonio Brown's feet, and Andrew Luck's UN-luck

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Dak's Prescott's quest for 40, Antonio Brown's feet, and Andrew Luck's UN-luck

"Hey team listen up. Mattress firm is throwing a hail. Mary to the summer savings save up to six hundred dollars. When you get a king bed for a queen price. That's awesome tom or a queen for a twin price and a free adjustable base when you spend just four hundred ninety nine dollars during their labor day sale one-two-three go oh the well oiled machine of the g._m. Shuffle is back. It's adnan virk michael lombardi. We got so much talk about mike. It's great now n._f._l. Preseason is going. We're just weeks away from regular season football and we've got absolute lunacy. That's right lunacy. When i saw this headline involving the cowboys boys and dak prescott he turned down mr lombardi thirty million dollars a year because he wants forty million dollars a year and you had said to be before listen. Jerry jones will vigorous way to get this done but seriously how crazy is it. The deck was forty a year. You know what's even crazier is when people say well look at dax numbers. He's like carson wentz. No time the fuck out right carson wentz was the m._v._p. The year they won the super bowl okay. Let's just put that out. That's just make that very clear. Dak prescott is is kind of like right now maybe if he had josh mcdaniels coaching them and maybe a real offensive guy coach. Maybe we would see more but we're managing. Dak prescott got like to me. The thing is at some point at some point. You gotta say to yourself as an organization. We're going to have to find a to find somebody equal to or similar to dak like we're not paying them forty million. We can't pay them forty million like you're not you play a playoff position. That's irreplaceable but you're not irreplaceable as you said before zeke's the key or he's the balci he's the guy who ignites his entire offense and you want to sign him up long-term clearly what you had suggested before it was assigned dak short-term of big money meaning to three or whatever thirty million dollars a year in dacca saying no to that. Is there any way you can finesse this and listen. We'll give you two years at forty. We could talk yourself that know. What might you give them forty year. If it's like for two years just to try to keep the short let's try to win the super bowl the next two years you know i just just a jerry's got to figure it out but the appetite that deck has in terms of look. I think the number one thing when you do contracts in the n._f._l. Was figuring out. You'll pay the players players that you think help you win but if you're not if he's the reason why you're winning then you pay them right but to me he's not only the sole reason and while you're winning look the cowboys when they play thirty minutes or less on defense last year. They're undefeated. They're undefeated okay now. Why is that that's because z. Controls some of the third downs that's because zeke controls the clock that's because they get to play complementary football. Look i think a great player but we picked back in the fourth round like like we'll find another guy to come in there and do that. I don't think to me. I think this whole notion of well if you don't have you won't get any but no no at some point. Put the pressure on your personnel department. Put the pressure on. We're gonna find another guy. We can't eat forty million dollars of our cap into one player who in three years from now you're gonna say shit. This is horrible at this contract sucks and here's one is a guy who's been a fun office. Who's been a part of contract negotiations the rest of it do you call back and go hey. Let's go grab lunch. You know agents know oh nobody else around you made just talk and just say listen. I can't do this. Forty million is insane. What's wrong with you but i'll give you. I'll give you thirty yeah. We'll be good like time is money right so either. We do a long-term. If you want to do a long term deal at forty million okay. We'll do a long term deal at forty million a year for ten years four hundred million dollars okay but we're gonna we're gonna start off at twenty and the first two years the first three years ago to be sixty million and the rest is going to be three hundred and forty million. You know if you want to do that fine. We'll guarantee. I'll guarantee is sixty million. That's no problem you know problem. We'll do it but the reality of it is. Is you know you can't have it all. You can't have short term in forty million. You can't have long term and not give me a benefit like where do i win at some point where to why you know like how do i benefit you know and look todd francis positioning this because here's the reality of the free agent market. Would nobody seems nobody understands. When one guy gets paid it helps the next guy get paid. It helps the next guy get paid and this is where you are but that ladder that people climate you still have to evaluate the player on that ladder just because just because us some team paid a player. This doesn't mean you have to pay the player this and you say well. What are you gonna do if you don't have dak well. That's what i get paid for. That's what the g._m. Gets paid for like at some point like like somebody's got to do. Their job. Know in any negotiation is a pretty good word like no fucking way. We're doing this to me. It's an easy conversation like you know what we're not are doing it. I don't even think you're that good now. But of course the cowboys do they get cooper rush behind him. What you think you're great. If you had cooper rush plan behind you and that's the thing earlier oh you said you think dachshund great player. I don't think so i think he's a very good quarterback. Why think in the right system with a great offensive line and a great running back ezekiel elliott and a great. I received amari cooper super then yeah then i think he can produce. I'm with you. I don't think he transcends that. I don't think i can win without him. Having all these other parts therefore i'm not paying anywhere near forty million dollars a year you know what i would do. If i were jerry jones and i would get my private plane i will get the cowboy the batmobile and i would fly it over to london england and i would pick up sir alex ferguson and i would fly alex back and i would say sir sir alec. Can you explain to dak prescott. There are players that have world class moments and world-class careers now that thinks he should be paid for his world-class moment when he hasn't had a world class career. Could you explain to this young man. What it is to be have a world class player and a world class career. Let's have that conversation right but the highest level of english premier league soccer and so we can talk about david beckham and indulge and all those great stories all right now. Get the headlines speaking of honesty great entertainment a hard knocks and jon gruden episodes in and has been on fire. I mean whether or not he's i think some of the best moments might have been for me him coaching the quarterbacks and this cases backups on the field because these talking to glenn and he's talking to peterman is a caveman like dick be more of a jerk like me get feisty up. They're her like come on little two nights again there. He's trying to coach them in how to be like floor generals and leaders in the hotline interesting the way he's going to speak with the media's interesting smiling meiling and like hey. I know it's apple may be guys whatever information i promised to let you guys know and then just his emotion the way he just gets angry he just he just flips the switch sister screaming at guys. John gruden's honestly he. He's he's the emmy award winner of hard knocks which is as we thought it would be omaha hamlet he's to be or not to be. I mean he's perfect. I mean look he. Does it better than anybody buddy. I mean those faces that he makes. He knows the cameras on them right. <hes> you know he's really could win an academy award for this performance outstanding i mean it's really good and the thing is is he's playing it and i think the reality of it is to me derek carr the more i watch them the more i'm like less impressed with him as a you as a as a guy you want commanding your franchise. He's talking about proposing to his wife and being nervous commentary. He makes he says man. I don't get nervous for practice. I played in big games big games. What what was the u._s._c. Fresno state aid in the in the vegas bowl. Is that your big game because i'm mistake because you sucked in that game right like you were really shitty in that game okay like. Is that a big game. You're talking about. What big game are you talking about. You played in the year. You won ten games that you got hurt. I mean like i want to know what big game you played it seriously. Tell me like to me. The more i watch this. I mean i know gruden. I know better than any human being. I'm trauma ship if the f._b._i. F._b._i. wants to profile gruden. They're calling me up okay. I know better than anybody. I can read between every single line like that receiver that they're talking about. He's getting cut. I'm just telling you right now yeah yeah. It's a nice story for h._b._o. It ain't story for gruden right that guy's getting cut the reality of it is is the more i watch this a car. You have no juice two things. Jump out at me really clearly the raiders. It looks like i'm not sure they can protect very well. That's a and b car has has no nothing to them that you say i want to rally around when we were there in oakland first time the reason we want and it's very clear it was not jon. Gruden was rich gannett. It was rich gannon now. Gruden could take his personality and give it to rich and rich could be the dick we practice next to the oakland airport gannett to through fifty fifty passes into the airport so pissed off he would meth everybody. John doesn't have that johns nine thousand nine hundred ninety. Three is an n._f._l. Head coach in his career. He doesn't have that ability you to do that and so the problem is he's in you know. He doesn't have anybody to extol his virtues to he can't get it and it's and i think to me the more i watched car. You're the more i realized i know they're going to be neighbors in vegas but one house is going to be for sale and the other one's going to be lived in well. It's interesting about car and i'm gonna sing every n._f._l. Player mike espy the dick butkus but he certainly comes across a little bit soft and as you said he's not exactly a hard nosed that story but the wife proposing. Maybe they're putting in their civic. He's likable but but the i'm not gonna all right. This is the guy i'm going to rally. We're gonna win twelve games this guy yeah. I just don't see it. I didn't get any sense and then when he's talking about. I played in big games before. I don't worry about practice man man. You got the rams coming to town right there. The super bowl team right and the rams are coming to town. Wouldn't you say hey guys. We're going to have to bring our fucking game today man we got. We got to bring it now. Man i played a big like it's all this lackadaisical thing and look he was he was more worried about proposing to his wife that he was about the rams come. Does he know fucking eric donaldson. Gonna kick his ass like when you be worrying about aaron donald. Aren't you worried about air. Donald coming after you or dante fowler coming around the edge. Aren't you worried about colton miller trying to block. It left tackle it. He can't handle any power like seriously incognito. You could see him running around trying to block people. It's like to me. It's the biggest joke of all. It's like at some point you you gotta be able to say to yourself like der. You gotta rise to level. There's a level of performance teams have to hit and if the quarterback is in trying to get that level up. Where are you going. Where are we going along with. This thing that whole sequence is great by the way gruden was like look at this guy here. Look at donald looking off. Look at mcveigh is one of the best offensive minds go. We've got to bring a game in. We're gonna step up here man and and that's been quarterback goes out and talks about how he's not. He's not nervous about what you think. He would echo the commentary going through like he doesn't and do it like this shows you. The gruden can't do is get his personality into the team. I thought it was interesting the dynamics between mcveigh and gruden to yes those those when those guys were talking and you kind of all this is like the mentor and the student whether or not that's the right case but you think of a great young office of my like mcveigh and gruden's trying to recapture what mcvay currently has right yeah no doubt and i didn't get the sense that like mcveigh looked like he was there on a mission like he wasn't going like he didn't come up and hug gruden give lovey-dovey like he's there to get his shit done and he deferred to gruden. I the more i watched mcvay behaved impressed with a guy like the guy doesn't let it get to his teams practice hard. I know the preseason they don't give a shit and oh by the way how good was musburger though seriously oh that was the best point gruden goes. This is the reason why all these guys with the raiders because is we got brent musburger yeah and then you hear his call. You are listening live. I'm like this is the best the last time he was on e._s._p._n. Airwaves i was in studio toss to the game was a college basketball game and i was just seth greenberg. Jay williams and there are blabbing about something. They cut them off guys. I want to hear it one more time. Brent musburger the legend and he says adnan this one's for you. Buddy you are looking live like gills musburger well lodhi. Let's check out the scene at rupp arena absolute absolute legend. I'm with you on that. Let's get to the most squeamish part mike of hard knocks. That was antonio brown's feet. I haven't thought about feet this much since daniel day-lewis in my left foot but when antonio antonio brown lure looks the cameras you guys wanna see him and he took his socks off. I mean i hope you really weren't eating popcorn on the couch because like those things he'd have been burnt like it was like an an extra layer skin was peeling off and it was like cows don't like that. No one of this guy can't move that wellard cure like abbott a pedicure. I mean seriously variously and you know to me when i looked at it. I obviously it must bother him because he's a tough kid but the thing i find interesting about the antonio brown situation is the trainer is handling antonio brown. Now the raiders have the greatest trainer of all time rod mar- martin is the greatest trader of all time. He's one of the best i've ever worked with in my life. He's incredible. We'll he's good on the players. He's demanding to the players. He's really good and so when john hammer having that interaction like john's trying to to get information from h rod through antonio brown's trainer like this. We're not basketball. Fellas like that ain't what we do right. We're not basketball. It's it's like. I don't know what to tell you like you. Can't you can't have your own trainer like you can't have your own trainer. Brady has his own guy that stretches them but when he needs something medically he goes to the training room and but that divides the team it really does. I thought that was interesting especially telling a._b. Like those first clubs who was like. I know you wanna aired aired out yep. I here's your time here's this it makes a position which already feels like a pre madonna the stereotype of the wide receiver and makes him look even more isolated right even more a part of the the team. It's just me and this guy one deal with other fifty-three yeah. It's like another headache. You gotta manage right. You've got to manage this guy. Who's telling antonio what he needs to do for his conditioning meanwhile. I got eighty nine other guys. I'm trying to coach on the conditioning like seriously like that's a problem and you know that just then then he's going to tell antonio when he can go so when he can't go when he needs a break when he doesn't like. How do you manage that like. I know john's said all the right things for the camera went on we got we got an x. Year that can fly. Why were you know i get a great player but the headache that comes with being a great player is a frequent headache was speaking of headaches of course filed a grievance over the helmet and this was the tweet he said he said he followed the league lose. It says he wants to wear a certain element. They said no he says if anybody can get me a shoot air advantage adult about large helmet manufactured twenty after i will trade you a signed practice worn raiders helmets. This is what is coming down to. You guys concerned about a helmet more than his feet. It's unbelievable. I mean it's you gotta think there's some psychiatrists somewhere reading this and say and diagnosis and tony brown from afar like this is narcissism at the highest level right. I mean you can't get any more narcissistic than this right. This is this is like and how about the tweet that i thought that was fascinating was if i quit will y'all still still love me like seriously. Was that the most disgusting tweet you ever saw in your life at the country music lyric mike if i lost my dog and my truck i mean give me a break like no bro. Those raider fans want you to play and they want you to play good. I don't know about you know people go watch their practices and say they're much improved. They're faster all all that. I get it. I'll tell you what i have seen in. The print is the fourth pick overall in the draft farrell. I haven't seen him do anything when they watched all those one on ones like he wasn't beaten anybody one on one i mean i know the kids are good kid. He'll work hard all that stuff but the reality of you got the fourth pick in the draft in barring gruden's light line. I need some juice juice. A you gotta get. He khalil mack when you're watching them right like we're seeing them and they showed clips of them. Every guy who's been in the n._f._l.'s evaluate in those clips clips and they're all saying not no power not enough speed to get around. The edge can't go inside like that's like. That's the about you write that down. No speed to get the edge cat power left tackle and can't go inside. He's too small and that's the fourth pick of the draft. That's the one thing i got from watching hard knocks last yesterday that i was you got to think about now. The kid play safety abraham all that stuff that's great but we're going to find out when people put the h. Out and he's got to cover a running back what he does as you know. That's all that all this bullshit about like. I wanna hit somebody. That's great for tv but the reality of it is this is how you play in space is really what matters yeah cleland girl. I mean listen this. This is not clemson anymore. These are not a._c._c. offensive lines. You're going up against and one last hard knocks speaking at clemson one hunter renfro how about the singing karaoke and as you said gruden always knows the cameras there he gives you even that smirk the whole going crazy and gruden just smirking away in the corner and i thought hunter red fo- brought dabo sweeney into it when he said hey man just compete feet against myself every day. That's the guy i compete against like that's the clemson motto like you gotta love hunter renfro for that but i mean they all know the cameras on them like at some some point like i also this i i watched gruden when when i was there with them. He's a different group now. He's a different group. It's a different front gruden in terms of his overall intensity his i mean there's still flashes of it but it's not the same guy. It's going to be really interesting to see how all this all pa- i mean you've got ten years ten years hundred million dollars how this all works out and he is definitely to sell the us versus them right. He's gonna say listen never heard him say that he was listening. No one expected from us. This year and i'm like yeah. There's a reason why but we'll say it all the time we travel. Both of us. Go places. You gotta have the right bag. That's hard thing to do. I know everybody says it got this bag that bag but we've got somebody that does have the right bag away for luggage away creates thoughtful product designs to change how you see the world they started with the perfect perfect suitcase crafted with features that make travel more seamless and trust me. 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All this is a high ankle problem clarify but if it's hainkel spraying that can get a little more dicey. This is a guy who had a great comeback here m._v._p. Conversation i mean how concerning is this. If you're a colts fan i think it just got raised another level because here's why high ankles. There's some kind of some fracture mice. This could be a fracture in there and when you get those kind of things in your veep like you know that's a hard thing to manage and then you gotta plant what people don't realize what baseball pitchers run in the outfield because they know they any power no lower body and when you're ankle's bothering you like that and you can't drive the football. It's problematic now. They haven't really overreacted to the quarterback. They haven't gone out because look. Let's face it week one in the n._f._l. Was about the backup quarterback like what team had a good backup. Quarterback looked better like the patriot two of them. They look good the lions. We've talked about at this on g._m. Shuffle forever. They had they found out that tom savage is in any good and that a shock. We've been saying it on the g._m. Shuffled for months and they finally figured it out and we're not even watching the practices so i think you know indianapolis hasn't reacted to it yet so for me i don't want to say it's not an issue but i think it's not where maybe it could bother him in september but i don't know how far it's going to go all right like you said consider level raised on a level but we're not quite at defcon five yet. How about this carson wentz talking about about the preseason and says he doesn't have to play at all the preseason because now this is a thought from doug peterson which is that obviously this guys are franchise quarterback. He's coming off a major injury and we don't play at all awesome. I feel good either way now. I totally get it from the eagle's perspective mike if you sat on us this guy at all but then ice is an eagles fan what the hell's the point of the preseason anyways anyways that if you're not gonna is it simply to battle roster spots determine like who's my backup interior d. lineman and then that's fine but i i often notice a fan then i go why the hell watching in the preseason if i don't get to watch carson wentz at all. How do you manage that yeah. I think it's a hard one. I mean sean mc based porn it off out in los sandals. He's not playing any his guys and he does it. It's all about the practices right because of the way the collective art this is related to the collective bargaining because we can't practice the way we want to practice and so they're holding people back and the rupture getting is in these games really aren't great reps. Let's be honest. I mean i think this. I think you've got to play football to get ready for football. That's just me. I'm old school like that. Tom brady's gonna play into but if tom brady plays in a preseason maybe carson wentz should play in the press. I think you've gotta get your timing going right. You got to get a feel for the game. You got to feel the pro. You know you know you could see it. I mean look grooten scott nate peterman and mike glennon on his team to two guys who've been in the league and they and the pace to the game in the preseason was was too much for them. I mean glennon throws to shitty interceptions peterman's running around like i mean. Could you imagine telling your team. Peterman's going to be our backup quarterback seriously. Nathan's going to start this week. I love you nathan that come on seriously come on yeah. You can't find two more uninspiring names right now the mike glennon there's two guys who are the most milk toasts players i've ever seen in my life and they want you to lead the team like get some juice so i get where winston is coming from. I'm not sure it's the right thing but it's been working for teams but i think look what has to happen. Is you gotta get certain work. You know preseason. Games are like sparring matches for boxers. Here's your box certain amount around especially in the offensive line. I mean mike zimmer does it. I mean you'll see teams. John harbaugh does it teams are doing it to to me as an investor. If you're betting any of these games in the preseason your coaches not teams because there's some coaches that really want to win the preseason har- balls zimmer. They'll play it whereas some guys like mcveigh. No man the clapper he's oh and five in the last five preseason games like seriously he's oh and but now he might get one this week. Show mcveigh could care less about the game then he does the clapper one of your best nicknames by the way john. Mara says it'll be ideal a deal. If eli manning starts all sixteen games daniel jones isn't through the field. That's like saying mike it's ideal. If i could run a four minute mile it's ideal if we could have sopranos prequel. That's as good as the actual show like we don't live in idealized world okay. There's there's no way man play sixteen games. I don't even know if that is ideal for the giants because they're not going to be that good anyways choice. What's ideal is that he gets going sooner. Rather than later and dino jones get some reps and starts to play and proves that he's actually a good pick which i don't think he's going to be i. I laughed the laura quote ideal. If eli plays sixty come on it's unbelievable. They live in a dream world in new york seriously. I mean they're watching. They're watching a completely different on game than we're all watching. I mean they're talking about extending. What game are they watching seriously the guys two and fourteen over the first eight games the last two years and these eight and twenty twenty-three in the last two seasons or something like that. I mean like he's your franchise quarterback. How are you this bad and people say well. You know he's only the quarterback. No i mean like shitty. Jedi teams have great quarterbacks win right. I mean that's why dak prescott thinks. He wants forty million because he thinks he's the reason why the cowboys are winning. I mean so i i mean the giants never cease to amaze me of their inability to really realize who they are. They just really never cease to amaze me. It's ridiculous as how bad that giants. He really is and you're right. They're kind of living in the real world a couple more here for you might before we get to the gym shuffle mailbag the n._f._l. Teaming with jay z on entertainment tame and social activism the league not used jay z's roc nation to consult on its entertainment presentations including the super bowl halftime show but will work with the rapper entrepreneurs sprinter's company to strengthen community through music and the n._f._l.'s inspired change initiative was created by the league after an agreement with a coalition of players who who demonstrate during the national anthem protests social racial injustice in this country. Those demonstrations were sparked by former forty niners colin kaepernick kneeling during the national anthem in in two thousand sixteen. What do you make of this. This is a good move here the league and the players get on the same page yeah i i mean that's probably one of the best things they've done in a while right. Let somebody else handle the entertainment like really seriously that would be like saying to me lombardi. You handle the entertainment. I don't know enough about entertainment. I know okay play springsteen or billy joel and you say well. You're just some fat old white guy. You know like seriously i like. That doesn't apply. I mean look you. Gotta think it's a smart move because look they gotta grow. Keep growing this game. I mean that's the one thing they gotta find. A way to do is continue. Can you to grow the game and by connecting people into those areas. They'll keep growing the game. I think it's really one of the smarter things they've done and last one here. I don't know if it's smart or it's silly eh the school formerly known as the ohio state university seeking a trademark on the word the for use on clothing and hats according the u._s. patent and trademark office. The filing filing was made on thursday university. Spokesman chris davies confirmed the school had made trademark submission sick was necessary to protect the brand so we're going to start calling this the g._m. A._m. shuffled dipped patent that as well yeah. I think we should well. This is really al davis pissed off about this because he wanted everybody to call it. The oakland raiders he thought was like symbolic of prestige the president of the united states the oakland raiders the ohio state. I mean you gotta love you. Gotta love what they're trying to accomplish here like you. You know but i mean i get the the g._m. Shefa we should do that a we need to do sopranos right now hey speaking of the sopranos they say that gandolfini son is remarkable. Yeah he's going to be in this prequel. The sopranos moon which is currently shooting and you're right if you can't bring back jim bring me his son and apparently dead ringer for his dad honesty and they see is amazing which is surprising. I guess acting to the bloodlines of man. It's going gonna be amazing to see that guy yeah see. At least i'm looking forward to. I mean how could it be me. You get a young paulie. Can you imagine what young paulie must be like. He already has ask the white hair on the sideline. I mean you probably had it at birth right. He was speaking of the that reminds me. There's remember the one episode jackie juniors playing scrabble with meadow and the words that he can spell our ass pu m._v._p. And she was doing his homework. I was there ever like my favorite uncle junior line of all time the dumb fuck almost died in three inches of water remember as uncle junior's sitting there at the there at the vesuvius for his wake and tony comes up to them and says how you doing a good gravy today and he dip in the bread into the tomato sauce good gravy today dumb. I'm fucking almost died three inches of water. He was always a dumb. I mean at this week. Is that classic thing. I want to touch on before we go is is jay beyond cloudy contract now. They're trying so hard to trade this guy like they'll do. I know he's a franchise you can't extend his contract but they're willing to take aac forty cents on a dollar to get him out of there and then the trent williams one. My man trent williams right. Trent williams and people say are the patriots going to trade for trent williams. Let me ask ask you something. You're a smart guy when is bill belichick ever given up a high asset for a player and then compensated the player on a high asset trades randy moss for fourth reduces randy moss's contract when he gets okay so we get some four reduced rate and then reduces deal trades a one for brandin cooks and doesn't touch the contract like at some point. When do people realize like past performance is how people behave like. They're not trained for trent williams. They're not gonna give trent williams williams twenty million dollars a year and give up a one. That's not who they are like at some point. You know these people on tv. They talk about all the patriots to be the perfect landing spot. Do they understand anything about football never doing that. He's never doing that. That's not who he is like. It's never been his behavior. That would be like for him. All of a sudden wearing a asaki shoot on the sideline like come on seriously come on so you think he's going to do that. I saw you tweeting about the situation by the way which is thinking just how high historic was is. Mike coming out of college and you go my god. This is an absolute recor. He is going to terrorize opposing offensive lines of quarterbacks for decade. Now's you said you can't even get forty cents on the dollar in this guy that's amazing to me. Yeah it is cloudy. Was one of those guys that you know. I think he's really underachieved. He's not been durable. He hasn't been able to stay on the field all the time and and does he have great talent. No daddy greytown but you know it's classic. He's been spoiled his whole life and he doesn't play the game with the great passion that like people say lawrence taylor. He's large taylor would have played the game in a parking lot. Are you kidding me. You know this large taylor had passion for football this guy. I don't get the sense he has passion for football now to me trent williams. I think trillions best left tackle in football if he could stay healthy he hates the general manager like anybody who makes anything about like he don't wanna play for the redskins no way no oh how i mean and i think he'll sit out the season melvin gordon i don't like is is there a less impact the hold out that melvin gordon seriously. It's like the assist makes you if you're not here. Okay moving on. We're moving on next one like that would be like okay. That's fine no problem at some point. You gotta know who the hell you are. Alright like know who you are like. You and you're going to get paid a lot of money. Don't get me wrong but you gotta know who you are. You know and unfortunately some people just don't know who they are are are. We closed this because questions by emailing us at the g._m. Shuffle edgy mail dot com. This is from ruari who says hey mike longtime listener listener love. The new pod love the book looking seriously pursue a career in football of the game. One thing i've noticed is most coaches in front of his guys are former players at least at the college level. I've only ever played the highschool by bill the game what to be a student of it and a relentless worker. Should i offer my services an intern. Should i acquire a degree in something specific. How can i get my foot the door scouting coaching or administration best wishes to you and me. This is from ari. Well thank you. I appreciate that look. The only thing you can do is is volunteer yourself and learn as much about football you possibly can. There's a lot of guys that that played football that don't know football. There's a lot of guys that didn't play football that noah tana hana football and just because you didn't play in college doesn't mean you're you can't be a great coach like it's the same thing. You just got to study the game. Look the one thing i've learned in my career players only respect knowledge coach if you make me better. I'll listen if you can't make me better. I won't listen to that's how programs develop i mean. If if you can capture some kids attention with your knowledge you can be eighteen years old or you could be eighty and nothing to do with race. It has nothing to do with with age race ending. It's all about your knowledge and his coaches and that's why on on the daily coach. That's what we try to write about. Every day is like trying to make coaches better by doing things that i think is really important and understanding. Sometimes you can and get you can get a real perception of people like this. One on one of my favorite stories of all time is the town of paramount california. They had a bank in downtown paramount california and the bank was was robbed repeatedly repeatedly and it was the number one bank robbed in all of the united states on the f._b._i.'s most broad bank list now so okay so naturally. What do you do you typically you do. What most people do you throw money at problems. That's right you throw money at it. So you hire more security guards. You put more security cameras in there you do more things right great what happens after they did all that the number one most rob bank and it stayed that way so one day they hire a kid like this young man who sent this email when they hire him and he's walking around the office and he says and they're talking about how they're gonna solve be robbed and he says you know i live right near the police yard. They got a bunch of abandoned cars down there. Why don't we get one of those cars. Put it right in front of the parking parking lot. We'll clean it up. We'll polish. It will make it look like it's it's real and by having a right ballpark right in front of you know what happened. No more robbers boom just like that. That's what people that sometimes. If you're not always you can see things from different ways and it makes you so much better and i think that this whole notion is if you didn't play college legit pro well sometimes people that didn't might see things in a little different way just like this young man at paramount bank in california like just park a police car right on front da like it's so so obvious but nobody can figure it out right yeah. That's great man. I love. I love that idea that just because you didn't play doesn't mean you can offer something of value the next time we talk the g._m. Shuffle awful mike agonists gus blinded by the light this film about a pakistani guy in england who love spring offering the movie's opening in theaters this weekend so make some time like makes you you go see all right <hes> whether milly i've invited milly. She's got an open invitation. I haven't gone to the printers to print out the invitation yet but there's i'm okay so we're going to go. We're definitely going to go. I can't wait. We're gonna talk with blinded by the light lots of football in the words of brent musburger. You have been listing live the g._m. Shuffle god bless <music> <music>.

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Antonio Brown in New England, Tyreek Hill's injury, Browns' fading hype, Dak + Cowboys' Super Bowl chances

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Antonio Brown in New England, Tyreek Hill's injury, Browns' fading hype, Dak + Cowboys' Super Bowl chances

"Good morning welcome to first things for some general. That's the hall of Famer Chris Carter and like look at. What are you talking of? Now the desktop starting to look like you're all talk. All that stuff is the pay that I'm Charlie is scheduled for next year spring training. We just add one hundred numbers rundown. Yeah Joe Got Everything Organiz Organiz. Let's go. We're having three different conversation. Let's go different confident. You're dressed looks lovely. Thank you so much. I love both of your suits. Thank you so we finally finally have football to talk about football. That happened big Monday show for you so baker and the browns have got off to a rough start. Dakyns Zeke got off to a great great start with the cowboys. When we gotTA start with the game the basically just ended a few hours ago with a team that made the biggest headlines All weekend Sunday night football steelers and the newly minted six times Super Bowl champion Patriots? We'll get to the newest Patriot in a second but the game itself this was all New England forty two year old. Tom Brady threw threw for three hundred forty one yards and three touchdowns against the steelers to touchdowns to fill up door set one to Josh Gordon blowing out Pittsburgh thirty thirty three to three to open the season. Here's more now from Tom. Brady big plays really helped us tonight and they'll help us every week if we keep making <hes> <hes> but I think it's got to be different things every weekend. Sometimes it's big play. Sometimes it's more methodical drives and you know whatever they're going to defend. We've got to figure out how out execute against so that's what we'll get back to work again. It's the first game of the year so there's a lot to learn from a lot of new players out there. We're GONNA try to build on tonight eight and try to get to to know Tom. Fonzie Brady the Nice postgame luck at forty two years old see how impressive where the Patriots last night against the steelers very impressive impressive very impressive with them with all the distractions as far as unveil in new banner they're six championship facing the only team in the NFL. It's got six championships. The Pittsburgh steelers Pittsburgh steelers have the whole off season to get ready for this. They're they're talking about their overall chemistry man. It's a everyone in the organization's aces got a breath of fresh air but when you don't have talent I don't care how much air you got care much chemistry. You got in in in in the locker room but this was they were totally holy outclass from the beginning. We didn't New England's going to do offensively. We didn't know what their wide receiver crew. The last couple of weeks of the preseason didn't know who was going to play but a day decided that are skilled guys are better than your skilled guys and offensive line did a great job as far as protecting them but they decided I'm going to attack their secondary specially Gresley their safeties in the middle of the field and that's what Tom Brady did. It's a I. I'm not going to overreact a week number one but I'm just going to everyone. AFC is planned Liam for second place and it's just a matter. How many games are Tom Brady and the Patriots? If he stays healthy they're going to win at least fourteen games like they don't even have a contest until Oh at least the middle of the season so we typically say if you're going to beat the pats get them early leader now. Oh you're not gonna be able to do that because we saw what they did. The Pittsburgh going to go down to Miami next week destroyed them then they're going to go through the AMC ESPN buffalo and the jets and then they go get some of the giants. I mean they don't have anyone in the browns like week number eight so fourteen and two generals so you're super bowl pick like they will be home field advantage. Yeah I know Kansas City played stay but they keep Tom Brady healthy and and and they're the only team that got better yesterday even though they played the game because they're going to sign a player today that only enhances everything else they do nick. They don't play a playoff team to your your point until week a playoff team from last year until week nine at Baltimore Week eight Cleveland. They obviously didn't make the Playoffs Week Nine Baltimore. We said when we looked at their schedule something I love to do if they get through Pittsburgh seven Oh six and one at a minimum looks likely through seven weeks and they looked great last night and the deepens was spectacular and the offensive line was good even though it dealt with another injury but I want to start with the Guy Right in the center stage there and Tom Brady. I don't want us to be numb to what Brady's just did last night. At Age forty two became the first player that age throw three touchdown passes in a game since a guy named George Blanda George Blanda who was a kicker and a quarterback played in the fifties sixties and then into the very early nineteen seventies it was quite literally a a different era almost literally different sport the last time we saw someone at this age have that type of game. The closest we'd seen is a forty one and a half half year old Warren Moon who say might be the best athlete to ever play the position of quarterback one of the greatest most skilled quarterbacks we've ever seen in Warren born moon and Tom Brady did it and made it look easy and Tom Brady just continued his domination over what is supposed to be his biggest rivals levels since he's been in the League how Philip rivers that's a potential future all of fame quarterback on our team that has consistently been good during Brady zero yeah he he's Never Law Stan how about Andrew Luck who was supposed to be the guy who took the torch from ready. He never lost to him. And how about the steelers the Second Best Team GonNa Conference this era in that building yeah. He's never lost to them six. No now eighteen touchdowns a one twenty five quarterback rating and averaging thirty six points per game like maybe we were surprised by the three in the thirty three to three for Pittsburgh but no one should be surprised a prize that Tom Brady carved them up because in that building. That's what he's been doing his entire career against that team well. It certainly helps that he had people to throw to. I'm I'm old enough to remember a conversation. We had it was last week <hes> that they might not have enough weapons whether it's the receiving core whether it's replacing Rob Gronkowski they haven't even gotten Antonio Brown yet and they look like they're going to be just fine. How much better does ab now make the team that you saw out there last night and realize Pittsburgh hadn't had a top ten defense in a long time? That's not a top ten defense. That's definitely not a top ten secondary so yes. They're second. They're wide receivers. They work question mark. Why because we didn't see element at broke his thumb in training camp missed a lot of camp? We've seen Philip door set. We know that he is not a consistent starter. Josh conversation about ability. It's about availability in various not only was coming recovering from Achilles beyond thirty but he also has a bad hamstring and we haven't seen him play good football in and several years so it's not as if those questions weren't legitimate but when you don't have a pass rush you only Tom Brady five times you get one sack. He's GonNa Carve view up. I don't care who the wide receivers are. In their wide receivers the group of them look at the plays because outside of Josh's catch and run the plays as they run the guys. were running wide open so that's by design so yes. We give Tom Brady credit. He's playing in Lee level steel but they have more than enough weapons and they're getting a weapon that at everything that they do Josh Gordon everything that he does is a football player. There's nothing he does better than. AB besides is be big if you want to run quick slants with Josh run deep ends. Ab is better at that than him Philip Dorset. He's a better speed receiver game speed than Philip Dorset Dorsett. He's a better route runner in the slot than element. He's got more speed than him now. Does he know more football. Play the game smarter don't know that but their lack of depth on the offensive line lack of having equality tied in it will be hidden because of the wide receivers now being a strength just like their defense in the Defensive Secondary Antonio Brown on the field is the perfect fit for New England because of what Chris said he can play all three positions COMPLA- them at incredibly credibly high level I. I don't know if he can learn all three I don't I don't know that he's played in Pittsburgh system his whole career. I wouldn't give him credit for that yet. Well what we the point system has slowed down a bunch of wide receivers now randy. Moss is a football savant. I knew he would adapt Zap two it and he sucked it up. That's why he had an immediate impact and he had offseason and training him. AB is coming no training camp no two OTA okay so they got to try to find a position for him that he can play fast in before he can play all of them but y y with agreed but with all that said the point I'm making is he's a guy who has in his time in Pittsburgh played all three wide receiver positions into Chris's point played them all at an incredibly high level on the field. He's he's ideal once he gets an understanding of the offense once he gets in the flow of things to question is and we will get to find this out in real time was Antonio Antonio Brown intentionally sabotaging his way out of Oakland in order to get to New England. If that's the case then he probably will work any any probably will last or did Antonio Brown sabotage himself out of Oakland not intentionally in which case. Why on Earth do we think a guy who who couldn't take a fine for skipping practice is GonNa take criticism in meetings? Why do we think a guy who was scrolling bank balances in meetings is going to work well in the New England the system if now if he just simply decided few months in Oakland a few weeks ago whenever I want to get out of here and drew told my agent told me if they do cut me got a soft landing in New England so I'm GonNa keep upping the ante? I'M GONNA threaten to fight the coach. That's not enough are threatened fight the GM. I'm going okay. I'm going to record the coach or that's not enough or I'm just GonNa flatly lightly say released me until you finally do it. Then that's one thing and that could create other issues about how people feel about that but it's really thinks he was the wronged party in Oakland and that he just could not deal with the structure of Oakland then this will be short lived in New England but for New England it's enormous reward no risk because they don't need them and they will. Oh cut him like that and not let it become an issue. That is what I'm excited to see once you become a member of the team later today all right so he wasn't available to play last night against the steelers steelers he will be available most likely for the Patriots next week against the Miami dolphins modern on that game there. We'll talk much more about this but coming up. Let's talk some Baker Mayfield and the browns and their disappointing week one loss. That's next on this one. You can always check us out on the Fox sports channel on Sirius. 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It looked like we might be in the midst of an enormous week one upset Washington jumping out seventeen points vernon in Davis playing with a heavy heart through the passing of a family member that was I mean just the hurdle was great then he finishes off at the touchdown see always been one of the best athletes and man he was out there definitely playing with a heavy heart tremendous play though all right colts chargers Philip rivers thinks he's got an easy touchdown me Hoeger flies in at the last minute for the Nice pick who you call him a hook. I see that leak straight from Ohio another Buckeye right their health both been his only bugaboo yes ability but this play. I will watch this game in real time. Cultural plus six appreciate that I thought it was going to break it up. The catch was unreal. Ravens offense pressed in Princeton score touchdowns in the back of the endzone tap and both feet in bounds man. We gotta be all new show in America. I'm boycotting this that skit now dolphins highlight in Miami. They're skipping over it. I mean Dan unrolls has got a really good football team. I think that was the seventh touchdown of the day the problems for six by Baltimore bunny onto Baker Mayfield and the browns all right on paper one of the more talented teams in the League the preseason darlings the favorites to win their division for the first time since one thousand nine hundred ninety nine or is that on paper on the field squad a different story bakers struggled throwing three picks all in the fourth quarter and getting sacked five times getting destroyed by Tennessee forty three to thirteen thirteen yesterday a thirty point drubbing to open the season. Everybody's GonNa throw some the trash. I think that's good. I know what that meant we have in this is locker room and quite frankly early Dan what happens on the outside. I know how we're GONNA react. I know what we're GONNA do how we're going to bounce back and we got Monday night game coming up so <hes> we don't don't really care. Where did you go say? Some of this was because you guys nobody says so. Don't actually question could lack of playing time in the preseason. It's something to it is no question that we done very bitter locker room after a very very big loss by the Cleveland browns see. Would you make of this team La- Yesterday they didn't play well they they didn't play well in one of the things in trying to put a team together and especially when team has a young players that aren't used to winning in the pros and most of the veterans that they brought there aren't used to winning so so you have a young culture brings in other players that aren't used to winning and under this name of prime time game but Tennessee's underrated is a franchise raval. I've had those boys ready to play fundamentally and they're very very physical. One the question Marxist from a team going forward with the browns how good with their offensive line V last last year they were a pleasant surprise. Freddie kitchen took over their ability to be able to run the ball. How balance on offense that's what they were able to do but not immature as a football team you could see with the penalties not that many penalties sister raiders in two thousand sixteen eighteen penalties one hundred eighty yards? It's impossible to win a football game so if you have that many penalties who pin that on the coach not getting the team ready or not not being known but that's just an excuse anyone who blames the coach because say say they're instant. They're left tackle cameras and he kicks a guy. It's not the coach's fault that will in the heat of battle. A Guy Kicks another guy. No that's not the coach's fault that's him he doesn't and have any type of discipline. I'm sure that they'll have a bunch of these clips together as a team bill learn from it but no we shouldn't blame Freddie kitchens but it shows that when you bring together a bunch of kids who have not won an NFL and guys from other teams to live Vernon he hadn't won with the giants owe. BJ Hadn't one where he's been Sheldon Richardson. He hadn't won on a big big level where he's been so now. You have these end with all the guys who've been there that have been loser so it's Def- we talked about them when they have a bad mouth. How would they respond? Well here. We go the first month is all and they're not doing well as you can see in interviews and they definitely didn't do well in the most important thing to football game yesterday. How do you lose games in the NFL turn the ball over? That's usually the best way to lose games Baker through threw three fourth quarter picks how about third and fourth down efficiencies well. The browns were miserable. They were one of twelve on third and fourth downs you mentioned the penalties most in the NFL in three three or four years the most and Brown team history. I mean eighteen penalties Vernon. Hundred eighty yards is laughable one other way to lose. Get Your quarterback hit. A bunch of Ah way to do that is heavier left. Tackle is not that good to begin with get kicked out of the Game Greg Robinson for kicking somebody who should have been kicked out of the game. That was obviously intentional. I know watching the game. There was some question. Did he mean to eat to my eye into the rough cy he clearly meant to and the now of those four things. The one that is most concerning to me is the last one baker getting hit because when we were doing the tale of the tape on paper about Cleveland the least proven part of their team. The least talented part of their team was their offensive line. Maybe their best offensive lineman from last year Kevin Zeitler he now plays for the New York giants. He was part of the Olivier Vernon trade. We knew Greg Robinson <unk> who they're left tackle. The Guy got kicked out of the game he they waived him before the start of the year for salary cap reasons knowing they could bring him back. If you're left tackles in a position where you could put them available to all league and you're like don't worry we'll get you back. Well that shows you the position that you're in with all that said this is a fifteen thirteen game with seventeen minutes left and then the wheels fell off right after the browns had their first good drive since their first drive of the game the very next play Derrick Henry seventy five yard screen pass that fooled every single member of the browns defense after that the browns of the next four possessions turn it over on downs wants wants and Baker threw three interceptions including pick six so if you didn't watch this game this wasn't a blowout from start to finish is it two point game with two minutes left in the third quarter and then the browns Brown's some adversity and the absolutely lay down it doesn't change my opinion on them for the season but this is a terrible way for their season to start. I know you've been really high. Hi on Tennessee's offense coming in you like them a lot but what surprised you more about Cleveland their offense or their defense well. I was surprised defensively that that they didn't get to the quarterback. I thought they would be able to put more pressure on the quarterback. As Nick said I've watched this whole game. It was a tight game going back and forth you would expect Tennessee to be be in a twenty one twenty game 2017 game. They made a couple of big plays and they had already outclassed Cleveland. They were more physical the known at the point of attack. They kept their head their composure but at the end when Baker just tried to force the ball which he tried to try to bring them back. That's how you get the three interceptions so the three interceptions are a little misleading Baker was not accurate like he typically is but some of that came from the hits that he absorbed earlier in the game and that's why he had to get an x Ray. I believe something was wrong with his right arm. He got sacked earlier in the game and you could see his right arm kind of went numb or he lost a filling in that I believe it because two of interceptions was all accuracy guys open in the ball didn't go where he was amen and you could see it when he left. The Stadium was in soft rock and listen. They said their x rays were negative but I agree. Obviously something happened there but this is where the lack of a veteran who to Chris's point has done some winning and I think showed up in the fourth quarter where it was it was an absolute stomach punched that team that after they had fought back to get it to a two point game thirty seconds later later one play later Derek restrained on the sidelines for seventy five yard touchdown to scores again but even then you're down nine with sixteen and a half minutes left the game is far or from over and the browns unraveled from that point forward. I listen the team that if you're not picking the Browning most people picking the steelers to win the division they also lost despite thirty points this week and now the ravens looked unbelievable and we'll talk more about them later. I wouldn't bury the browns just yet to say the least but obviously week week one went terribly in every way it could have baker got hit. They turn the ball over. They couldn't convert third or fourth thousands and the penalties are that'll probably be the most penalties any team committed any game name. All two hundred and fifty six games played league this year not a great debut for Freddie Kitchens in the new-look Brown's. Here's why sometimes it's good to see what a team looks like before we anoint wean them coming up. We discussed Prescott Distort Week one performance. That's next on first things first. Are you ready for what's ahead. You can't always predict the future but you can gain plan for it. 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BJ Finney got the snap count wrong and the referee called a false start on all the linemen except for the center for you guys the the referee didn't do him any favors there and he was holding back a smile when he said it the entire offense of line moved except for the center pouncey and just gone out with an injury this is the backup centers I snap of the game and you saw him turn to Big Ben and like I thought we were on to everyone went donald one who was actually one of the steelers better plays of the day oddly enough because it was only negative five yards a tough tough moment for BJ Finney coming in your the first professional play no not not a bad look. It's amazing. When you get nervous? How you can't hear or you can or can't harm yeah? He was and he was just standing there. He was like no everyone's wrong but I'm GonNa tell you what he what he wasn't. In a rush to place and we started out see limped off this kid's was like Oh my God all right time for stores to start your morning sponsored by Gillette Clear Gel yesterday. The Patriots raised their sixth Super Bowl banner before destroying the steelers the aforementioned aforementioned steelers by thirty points. Tom Brady improving to six zero and his career at home against Pittsburgh mccown press for the pats last night in all phases they they were extraordinarily. They got some new punt returner. I never heard of Cattlemans job. Every time he got the ball. You went for twelve yards. Their fifth wide receiver Jacoby Myers undrafted. He had one pass thrown in that that was great. Stefan Gilmore was great again but the story to me. Is Tom Brady at age forty two doing something only one person is age has ever done in the history of the League in that George Blanda who who is the NFL's all time scoring leader at one point because he played quarterback and kicker who sells Longo. We played a time where your quarterback could also be canker Brady's now passing those guys in the record books the defending Champs look unbelievable. There hadn't been easier time to throw the ball Nicholas if you don't hit the quarterback then we're Tom Brady's playing. I'm with Tom. Why would I quit? WHOA hand and keep giving me the answers to the test couple play action big place Tom Good but New England look like well? The preseason port what about those doing practices that they went went through older important. Oh check know something about football. NFL WATCH OUT FOUR YEARS IN A row PATS TWO SUKHOI MIAMI AFC. y'All might as well just laughable allowed overreaction week one Monday does give them the conference already. Get onboard get war market down moving moving on down. Lamar Jackson had quite a Sunday lit up the dolphins posts in a franchise record five touchdowns again. It was the dolphins but still l. A. Great Win after the Game Lamar joke that his performance was quote not bad for a running back and neck what Jamaica Lamar season debut I mean it was perfect. I perfect passer rating his stat. Line was one that precisely had never been put up in the history of football. I know the dolphins are terrible. I don't think they're going to be the worst team ever and he played as well as you can. Play Twenty Pass Tim's three hundred and twenty yards only three incompletions by the way Miami. I know you don't have a ton of talent right now. Did did you not get the memo that Hollywood Brown Fast Hollywood browns running past them to start the game. Lamar was great. Season couldn't start out any better. I love what Baltimore's doing with him as far or as they added some speed Hollywood Brown another Florida guy they've added and him and Lamar haven't had a lot of reps together so to see them hook up a couple of times in game action. It's it's only promising but I liked the fact we're going to start with the run at some little play actually got a couple of good athletes at tied in so it should be exciting for Baltimore. I'm glad glad to see him progressing as a thrower the only team in their division with a win yesterday our number one overall Pick Kyle Murray did not win his first game but he didn't you didn't lose his first game. Either Kerr debut ended in a twenty seven twenty seven tie against the Detroit Lions cuyler brought the cardinals back from an eighteen point deficit in the fourth quarter threw for two touchdowns and three hundred eight yards see. What was your biggest takeaway from pro debut? It's really hard to come back from an awful star. In this offense. Oh man they were bad for the first three quarters of the game. They were awful. If you could throw a towel mic would've thrown a towel and stop the fight but but it takes some stuff on inside for a young player to respond the way he did in the fourth quarter and overtime really accurate he does have a big time arm needs time in front of him to throw I believe that that defensive faced with <hes> with the Detroit is one of the worst defense in NFL and put any pressure Asher couldn't cover anyone late in the game see you mentioned all the time people coach with the Patriots they the Patriots and they start doing everything the opposite of the patriotic glowing eighteen point fourth quarter lead to a rookie quarterback rookie head coach. It's indefensible. I was on a team out of took that pistol stuck at isn't it okay but on the it's not sharp either the on Cuyler side of things he started the game nine of twenty nine I seventy yards as poorly as you can start to recover the way he did and that usually ties or bittersweet for the cardinals yesterday. That tie feels like a win that was a great game great finish for them all right the reigning. NFL NFL MVP Patrick mahomes picked up where he left off last season carved up the Jaguars for three hundred seventy eight yards three touchdowns forty points however his star wideout Tyreek Hill suffered a collarbone injury and is expected to miss a couple of weeks nick. Would you take away from the chiefs week. One performance much like the ninety nine rams to the two thousand rams the number one offense in football one year is going to be the number one offense and football the next year I mean tyree kill with the most potent potent weapon the chiefs have went out after not doing much and they did not miss a beat. Hey Sammy Watkins. That's Clemson. Sammy Watkins Nine for a Buck Ninety eight and and three touchdowns and they did this in a stadium that was the hardest place to score and all the football last year Jacksonville at home allowed less than sixteen points per game. The chiefs scored on their first eight consecutive possessions Patrick Mahomes got dinged up in the game because Jacksonville foot is Ankle Jacksonville acts and bill is going to create a pass rush didn't matter that now the chiefs defense on the other hand same as ever before again Gardner Menchu came out there Gartner Menchu a in winter junior college to Eastern Carolina some school in Washington State and just twenty two a twenty-five dyson people up so the defense going to be a problem but the offense it was as good as it was last year even with tyreek missing for two and a half three quarters of the game defence. I gotTa Start With the defense because the defense Stevens I it's it's going to be bad again and Patty mahomes. I'm glad to see that he came out of the game healthy they got after Jacksonville does have have a good rush but Sammy Watkins. I'm very happy for him. New England's getting a star receiver I'd call Nick yesterday and said Kansas City Garden of a star receiver and Sammy Watkins is as healthy and as good advice seen him play a game since he left. He got a couple of games there in buffalo earlier in his career but he hadn't been on to be healthy and this off season he changed his whole training. Resume Regiment and Andy Reid said it couldn't happen to a nicer guy he works hard doesn't say anything is low maintenance maintenance. Get him back up to the talent level. They thought that they when they went out in signed him to that. Big Contract that was to me was the most exciting thing to see because to me. Sammy Watkins career was going to be well. What if we'll man if he could have ever stayed healthy but he's phenome- as big got really strong hands runs great routes and he is fast and you could see that Andy Reid did a great job designing plays? They're going to be unstoppable. Offensively Travis Kelsey Shady McCoy Roy added to that eight yards a carry for shady eighty is nice especially with Andy. Andy knows exactly how to be able to use them so the firepower we'll be there on their offense but but their defense I believe gave up another four hundred yard game with him scoring as much they score they don't give up a lotta yards but to have the backup quarterback come in and start carver them up the way key carbon started ten of ten you can't I can't avoid they'd be nice. Sit around and talk about their offense all day but that defense no whole team has ever won a super bowl with a historic bad defense like Kansas City. You got five new starters on Devonshire of new defensive coordinator so obviously the defense is going to be a work in progress had asi better than it was last in was yesterday but if you go to Jacksonville score forty Jacksonville leaving in a down year was top five deepens last year and again number one home defense as far as points points allowed the chiefs look like a team that can set the all time scoring record last year they were the third highest scoring team in football yesterday against an excellent defense without their best offensive player other than the court quartet office lines got to play better than that absolute but they're also not gonNA play pass rushes as potent as Jacksonville each and every week I mean he was getting hit every single google play and now we don't even know going into week. Number two is Patrick mahomes because they're not going to be break the scoring wrecker if he's not if he can't scrap he's not a and yesterday today was great for him in the pocket. You're absolutely right so many of his great plays are broken plays scrambling around now luckily next week they have Oakland but they're not gonNA have tyreek Hill until middle of October to I think longer than that I think middle of October at the earliest so they're going to have to make do without him but this seems a lot like last year chief team a great great offense and defense. That's holding on for dear life and we should mention a tough afternoon for Nick foles didn't even make it out of the first quarter. He's known for this season. Which is why Gardner all right? We'll get to Antonio Brown just a second but first Washington Philly Philly Vernon Davis does a little bit of everything on this play Catches Hurdles Bronze Beats Defenders Oh and scores touchdown great way to start kicked off one hundred season for the NFL this one the first big highlights Vernon Davis makes a great individual play and that your body to safety forty two nick what used to play for your chiefs chiefs. No no all wait. Yes yes story either dumb. Someone else like that is him. Yes no Schuyler. Murray has has all day to throw before finding Larry legend deep for the diving. Kathy took him a long time. They finally hooked up Larry Fitzgerald. Bring him back in overtime man. This was ugly. uh-huh definitely will not go on to archives of football the first three quarters of what that air-raid off them rallying though to get even tie was impressive not as impressive is this the rivers thinks he's got an easy touchdown but me hooker flies in at the last minute for the one handed overreaction week one Monday. I declare that this will end the season as the best defensive play we see all your I know this was spectacular play but it won't be the best of the year great catch one hand. He's got unbelievable hands. You got to build stay healthy promising safety thornley thing. That's new. You'll house right has been his inability to stay on the field all right just when you thought the Antonio Brown saga was crazy easiest crazy comes. Ab will now be catching balls from Tom Brady over the weekend. The raiders finally released him and in what seemed to be just minutes later patriots picked him up up. He agreed happily to a one year fifteen million dollar deal including a nine million dollar signing bonus. He posted this on instagram with the caption man the Patriot way. Here's Tom Brady on his new receiver. I think like anything else whether Josh last two year or on Philip when he got here years ago late and then you know this year Antonio you know how much can you learn and process and get in here and we're all going to work hard and try gotta get up to speed as fast as possible but we haven't had a training camp together or that so it's you know you got a four slot information and <hes> you know. We're all excited happen always I could. I'd say we're just going to work as hard as we possibly can to to get up to speed as quickly as possible. You'll forgive me if I need to see it to believe it after what has is transpired the last couple of weeks with Antonio Brown all right so you think ab in the pats workout. It's GONNA work out. It's going to work out it's going to it's going to be amazing and how much commonsense he's GonNa get in that flight from Oakland to when he arrives at Foxboro and goes inside their facility. He's GonNa make a bunch of phone calls. He knows some guys on the team. Philip Dorsett grew up in south Florida. ABC's been one of his heroes. They've worked out together. He's got some other people are familiar with on the team but it's remarkable and I've seen it year after year. When ballot check is there the craziest guys what happens to them? They go there and they straighten up Corey Dillon. You wouldn't believe the stories coming out of the Cincinnati bengals locker room about Corey Dillon. He was typically on the milk carton is one of the worst the people in the NFL. Oh he goes there. Albert hangings work now. It didn't work out because it worked out like this. He didn't do what we tell them to do. We got rid of well. That's the thing Randy Moss on day. One renting have no type of problems with Bill Belichick. He loves the Football Laboratory. He's loves learning football so I knew Randi with thrive there but Ocho Cinco Oh people thought he'd thrived there but the football xs knows got in the way of him not to learn not be able to play a variety of positions but I'm just going to tell you I I learned this. When I lived in Minnesota for a long time I was going over some people's houses and my wife at the time told me you've got to take your shoes off and you get? I'm not taking my shoes officemate line money to these shoes shoes to clean up when you get what happens you get to. The door is the moment of truth. Do you WANNA come in. Don't do you WANNA play football because not a matter era I want. I got my own life. No you don't have no life it is the Patriot way twenty four seven and if you don't they will get rid of it's only money it's only money they can spend. They'll draft pick for you so ain't got no tolerance for you. You got one strike and he going to be out and Bella tests going to let them know that navy is not going to have have a problem watch how it works okay so i WanNa make sure I understand what you're saying. You're saying it won't be a problem because if he is a problem he'll just immediately be gone or won't be a problem because he won't ABC and a half commonsense this year. He's going to be there for one year. Okay well yeah. That's exactly what if that's the case then what Antonio Tonio Brown did over the last ten to fifteen days is premeditated for this exact result because he appeared to be someone no. I don't think it was premeditated meditated and the reason why is because there were a number of teams that had a great deal of interest in there he was trying to make it work in Oakland until he realized they you find them when they finding that became a different ball game because then his guarantees were in jeopardy now what happened after that it was a lot of premeditation tation but before that no he was trying to work everything out in Oakland and get that thirty million dollars guaranteed okay but then what he did that then finding him the first this time did not void his guarantees it only set the table for those guarantees to avoid if he continued to act out and he acted like someone pardon me who could not control himself. He acted like someone who would repeatedly work against his own best interests. He acted like someone who was irrational. Who was impulsive? Live who was someone you could not rely on a plane. Ride does not change that so the only way if he does make the whole season New England then the whole thing. The last week in Oakland was a long gone. It was all I want to leave. His agent has a great relationship with New England. Maybe through somehow I know you're not supposed also through the little butterflies day man just so you know New England who tried to trade a first round pick for you when Pittsburgh was moving you they'd still take you and so we just kept upping the ante on getting released he kept upping the ante on all threaten to fight the coach work or threatened fight the GM. I will but even if that was true nick anything thing that he was doing. Don't make sense going into England. Maybe somewhere else what is it like because he doesn't have the type of personality that would suit going to unless he we knew that New England was going to be waiting for Chris. I don't know how we this is. This is what I do know. Nick we make phone calls around the League and New England there were a bunch of teams yeah waiting for him. Yes and somehow got done in two hours bunch of teams waiting for him budget teams that can offer them contracts and long negotiate a contract but if you gotta give you we'll give you ten million guaranteed. Would that movie to the front of the line of course you gotTa Hall of Fame quarterback. We'll keep you in the front of the line right agreed Chris the point that I'm making it is very simple what we have seen Antonio Brown do is irrational erratic behavior that has hurt him financially hurt him and publicly hurt him in every way possible unless it was all it in pursuit of this if it wasn't if this is just a happy coincidence since then. Why will he change then? Why will all of this is we're I just I just know Bella Ticks Influence Bella checks influence makes the people change does a guy named Steve Harvey writes this book how to get a man's at every woman? There's a man out there would do everything right for that. One woman and Bella check is the coach. I would have loved to have played for him. I don't know how we're going but I would've loved to think that I could have done it in their players in the league that you know something they'll straighten up for him because they respect them and that happens as soon as they get the phone call or assume is the as soon as the transaction Liam's extra as soon as they talk to their friends and realize hey man. This is a different story here two seconds after he agrees to go to the Patriots he puts out an instagram post the Patriot way with the money for just in that post alone leads me to believe. I don't think he really is committed to change or we're going to see a different Antonio. Do you think he's on the roster at the end of the season. I do say something I know but I just don't do or don't I mean I somehow WanNa believe that he's going to actually really make it work because he found a New Zealand the Tino Nick done I do not think he is because I've seen the influence of Bill Belichick. I think what the Patriots Druce have going for them and by the way why is I didn't answer the question why I think it's a smart move for them is because they are maybe the only team in the league that if he starts to act like Antonio Brown they will not let it metastasized they will instantly cut ties. He will only be nine million dollars. They've got the cap strays stories anyway because they don't have a single bad contract on the roster eighties no risk and the reward is of all the receivers in the league may be the one who's Skillset skillset fits the Patriots the best because you can play every position he can play coolio. Maybe you'd say well you better find okay then second-best whatever it is the reward is the best receiver Brady had since Randy Moss the risk newsletter been trying to get a good receiver for the last three. They were so desperate they spent a first round pick on a time for twenty five years they keep holding onto Josh Gordon so I give way they did it. I support the fact that they did it because there is no risk any any idea of why didn't other team to other teams. Don't have I think the stomach to the first time he acts out caught it. At least I'm just couldn't good raiders. Could I of course do use KRIZAN algae. The raiders also had a no shoes policy Antonio said I'm not taking them off and they're like okay. We'll walk slater you want lightly and then he stopped around in the mud and I'm coming back in and they're like artists. Don't tell mom and so the the but the Patriots won't do that and I just don't think a guy who's screwing bank balances during in meetings back through it. Bad kids want discipline all right and they react to it when they do get it. What's what's going to happen okay? I don't think he makes it to you're back here Chris Candy. We're going viral last night. Tom Brady and the Patriots opened opened the season with a blowout win over the Pittsburgh steelers before the game they raised their sixth Super Bowl banner and check these out. The PADS had custom air force first ones made by Nike to celebrate the occasion. I feel like you can get a pair of those C- go of course GRONK was in the building with Zoll teamates mates. I he posted this flexing with the caption six trophy six APPs One dan he'd been working on that one for a while very nice CR- right now during the grand evidently retirement is life former patriots. Can I get back to the shoes though I feel like you with your Robert Kraft connections. Did you guys vacation together in Israel. All these things feel like you could get a pair of those sneakers. Yeah can't be bragging about being with craft everywhere. You didn't win the Super Bowl so wear I can wear crafts own personal from Nike but I can't wear the suit wounds and I got a limit my visibility at arm's length right now. I'll tell you don't worry about it onto the cowboys after its multiplicity Louis season waiting on Zee Dak Prescott was the star on Sunday four touchdowns and over four hundred yards good enough for a perfect passer rating Kenny. What were your impressions of Jack in the cowboys after their blowout against the giants we talk so much about how you know if this team and what we're going to expect from Dak Prescott how much they need him if they are going to play deep into the playoffs? Would you think now I was impressed by Dak Prescott did yesterday I mean he's clearly taken can a step forward in his fourth season. You can tell the maturation that that's going on to development his overall game. He was decisive with his with his decision making recognizing the coverages ridges and being able to get the football out of his hands. I was really impressed by that. I mean he was the beneficiary of the giants running a lot of split safety coverages and then he was able to attack the middle of the a field that utilize play action with Zeke Elliot in the Backfield got Alex Ogle tree and those giants linebackers to bite up and you're able to make some completions down the field in the middle of the field Michael Gallup Blake Jar with a touchdown so I mean a lot of things that you saw that cowboys office doing yesterday I mean there was result of it was because you had number twenty one in the backfield but at the execution for Dak Prescott was off the charts I mean on third downs and in the red zone he was outstanding and that's where quarterbacks typically make their money Dak Prescott yesterday was five a seven on third down passing one hundred twenty two yards and a touchdown and then of course his team was perfect in the red area so it was their biggest issue last job was their biggest issue. They were twenty nine in red zone efficiency last year. They were perfect yesterday so you see that the quarterback has developed in they've cleaned up some of the overall issues that they had on the offensive side of the ball from a year ago but a lot of that has to do with that Prescott being able to take his game to another level. This was the best game DAK Prescott has played since the playoff game against green bay his rookie season where even though they lost I thought he was spectacular especially for player in his first ever playoff game going toe to toe with Aaron Rodgers bringing his team back only to lose on a field goal at the very end doc did everything that I have questioned his ability to do. He was precise he was on time he was looking. He was looking not even necessarily going to second read. He was doing that as well but there were times where he knew what is read was but he was looking as if there was a different read just to move the safety over and then he was delivering strikes. If doc plays like this the cowboys can go to the super bowl now I don't know of debt Compla- like this more than two or three times a season but I wouldn't have expected him even against the giants to play like this one time and so it was statistically a game that only has happened four times in NFL history that many yards that many touchdowns and a perfect passer rating and we can't can't go without mentioning Kellen Moore his first game as an offensive coordinator he dialed up play after play that took advantage of what the giants were allowing. You guys mentioned Incheon the Split safeties does real quick if I may ask you this way troy song on the T- on TV it was as if well why would you ever play split safeties like obviously obviously it's right down the middle. There has to be a way to defend what Dak was doing but the giants couldn't adjust to it the giants couldn't make the adjustments to what Dak in the cowboys we're doing and it led to the cowboys offense to me making almost no mistakes. You can't be was right. The giants thought they could take Dallas or negate running game by playing cover to the minimum amount of people. The box Zeke is not up to speed no need to pack the box and that's how we're going and throwing the five six defenders in the secondary typically young quarterbacks. It's going to give them more problems compared to. I'm getting out there. Blitz Amanda Man they make the reads easier so that was the reason why that cover too but that play action linebackers they can't play the middle of the field and get sucked up on the run with the run responsibility so not only more the play calling but some of the window dressing some of the pre snap stuff where for instance if they were going to line up in a bunch formation last year they were lined up in a bunch for Mason bunks right toss right this year what they did was they lined the wide receiver up outside bring him in motion and they might start Zeke in the slot. Bring him in motion for so the different things that they set their players in to build identify where the defense was are they playing man in zone they gave back a little indicator and give them a little head start on where the ball's going to go but the reason why I like what he did was because I think as duplicate Ren- defense is clearly looking off safeties. Those are the things you can duplicate weekend and week out in anticipation young quarterbacks. Don't WanNa let the ball go into areas. You could see him doing that and the number one thing that I thought was was the most promising was he was driving the football down the field and you don't see that unless guys got confidence you can see them load up on his back leg stride into it and we're the ball was hitting people. It wasn't down by their shoelaces. He was hitting people either in their numbers are up in their face masks and that's where I like to build a judge quarterbacks. The accuracy can a guy catch it and do something with it. That was a big difference on the deck. I've seen in the first three years. No see you're right with all of those points. Another thing that I thought was encouraging. Encouraging was to see Dak Prescott uses legs to be able to extend plays or to be able to scramble just to keep you honest you pick up first downs. I mean when the defense had everything you know out they're executing not DAK Prescott was the x factor he was able to be that guy that defenses can account for there is no defense for quarterback run. You just don't have it. The defense doesn't have enough numbers and so that Prescott you saw him early in that game show enough in the run game being able to get first downs where you keep the defense honest and now you keep the offense offense continuing to move to change and get more opportunity so I I was impressed overall with what day was able to do. I was also impressed with Michael Gallup. The youngest even for our boys has been able to develop a one hundred and fifty yards receiving yesterday seven catches on seven targets to it was unbelievable just seeing what he was able to do catching the ball in Traffic Amari Cooper I we went over one hundred yards receiving also had a heck of a Croat block on that run for a touchdown for Ezekiel Elliott orange peppers giant strong safety so when you have everybody buying in in and everybody sacrificing for one another that puts the team in a really good spot and I mean I think the quarterback is part of setting the tone for the team in terms of being being able to do those little things that lead to win. One thing Colin cowherd talks about is that might not be one of the best doors but you give them thirty or forty million just because he's an adult voice in the room. He's a good leader. He's going to do all and say all the right things imagine playing a football game with over one hundred million and guarantees that you've turned rundown and going out there guys getting hurt like you know they played in the League game. Guys got hurt in that First Game Knicks Old House collared. How do you remain calm mm-hmm when I haven't signed this deal on the table? I know it's over one hundred meaning guarantees to me that says something about Dak Prescott that the money's not going to change change him and have that composure. I thought we should mention that now. Imagine taking the team that you saw yesterday with the way Dak was running the offense and adding one hundred percent of Ezekiel Ezekiel Elliott to it and you have to imagine this could be a super bowl. Listen to the what we have on the bottom. Assume a second ago was attack like this team on the fast track to the Super Bowl. The answer would be yes if that plays like this deck plays like one of the three or four best quarterbacks in the league the Netflix I think your point of playing without fear despite fighting knowing that what that was the biggest gamble DAK stake in his entire life was taken the field yesterday before signing that contract even if they are at the finish line is Jerry put it. I think that's that's a great point one. I hadn't considered and so now is it duplicates can he do it again. We'll see but that was as good of a start for the cowboys as you can possibly have the season. Thank you for listening to the first

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Hour 1: NFL Week 1 Recap

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"Morning it is time to get up with Tom. Brady cancel the season the pats unstoppable Sunday night and now they're adding Antonio Loni. Out Brown is he the piece that puts them over the top or could he be the only person capable of bringing them down. We're all over it right off the top and then just give the man is money. Dak Prescott looked so good in his new offense. You'll hear why his new deal could be done before we see him again all that and more it's football season on get up on a Monday. Live from New York delighted to have you here and delighted to show you our Monday team or Lasky erects as usual and we welcome L. Dunkin confirmed first of all you starting to sell this is amazing. We're all just sitting here talking about all the surgeries we've undergone on during our many years of our careers. We'll keep those to ourselves. If we welcome you here and we start with the finish of Sunday night in the national football league. This was a frightening scene if you were anyone who may have to face the pats this year Tom Brady as they're putting another banner up in the building rats. Do they need a bigger stadium stadium greedy. I can't stand six screw and here we go early on. We got a little tricky tricky patriots. In the early going number was the quarterback here does James James White. He's going thirty two yards and they're in business and then it is brady and he's going to be looking for Josh Gordon. And what a weapon Josh Gordon figures to be in Josh Gordon stays healthy with this football team to so many different ways to get into football a little shallow cross and remember. He's a big boy. You'd better wrap and tackled to the ground touchdown. Pat's patriots out early and they were just getting started second quarter patriots driving again the different weapons this time it's going to be who would break free elements six catches. That's his eighty three yards on this night following play. It's Brady and yet another receiver and this time. It's still doors door said it's like are you kidding. It doesn't matter who it is. The guy's got a Patriot lower wan to get him at one of two touchdowns he would catch on the night pats out gave the steelers to seventy five to eighty. He's seven in the first half now. The steelers with a chance early in the second half Ben Rothlisberger has nowhere to go with the ball. There's nowhere to go with the football because this secondary for New England is going to be the problem for teams this year lockdown Mandolin coverage they can rush the passer. This defense is for real later in the drive third and Goal Office Burger again nowhere to go tries the floater in the corner. No not even close they kick a field goal patriots up twenty two three and then looking to answer now is not going to try to put it away and look look at this throat. Adore said unbelievable protection door sets splits the coverage blown by Pittsburgh steelers and again. If you make a mistake versus the greatest the quarterback of all time he will burn you down the middle of the field touchdown twenty four thirty six for Brady three forty one and three touchdowns patriots reids in midseason form in early September. If it seems like Brady always wins week one it's because he does with his victory over the steelers last night. Tom Brady has now won fourteen eighteen times in week one breaking a tie with peyton manning for the most victories on opening week in the Super Bowl era now that was the game all the talk leading up of course was Antonio Brown and who arrived in New England on Sunday morning on that plane and after the game last night Brady and Belichick were both asked about ABM. It was interesting what they said and and what they didn't say. I think everybody's excited to add you know great players. It helps everybody when you know you have great players that are sharing the burden of of a tough football season have any comment on the reports and the best receivers. No the timing is just spectacular. Let's start quickly with the game and then we're going to spend a lot of time on the Antonio Tonio Brown thing this morning obviously as far as the game and everything that we thought that Patriots might look like last night they did. I mean we spent the whole off season asking how how were the New England Patriots GonNa Replace Rob Gronkowski. It was never a question that they had to ask themselves. They came out and said listen. We're just going to start doing things differently twenty personnel l. to Beck's on the field three receivers no tight ends and we saw this be the identity last night for this football team. We're GONNA move one tale back out to the slot. Bring one back inside. Brady knows exactly what covering where's the matchup but this is who they're going to be off season. We asked how they're going to replace. It was never a question for the New England Patriots Rex. 'cause I wanNA talk about the steelers though because I had so many people over the course of the last three weeks telling me the steelers defense is back. They loved the traffic defense is going to be good. They got carved up lane. That locker room was together and all that we hear it all the time. Guess what they're a better football team Monday through Saturday. I've said it forever but come Sunday. They're gonna Miss Levy on Bell. They're gonNa Miss Antonio Brown say what you want but those are difference makers in you're GonNa Miss Him and you saw last night so it's a disastrous start for the steelers and a great one for the the Patriots of that there is no question and we'll spend more time talking about the game obviously as we go but we have to get to the other side of this here and that is the acquisition of Antonio Brown again we we will get deeply into all the things that happened over the weekend but just putting Antonio Brown on the field in New England uniform. Some people suggesting this is just now unstoppable unstoppable unstoppable if he conforms a little bit to their way in learns their offense and gains the trust of his quarterback. Tom Brady has really never had a receiver Zebra like a bean. I know he's had any mosque with the suddenness of the twitching isn't space you give that to a quarterback that again is surgical inside inside ten yards. That's any knows the coverage before the snap. If AB gains twelve trust good luck I mean I think he's moving into twelve's house at the time. Well good luck with that but anyway that'd be like no. This is your room but anyway when when you look at this look they don't need them. They got sick. Super Bowl trophy sitting there saying look. We don't even need you and by the way you are we recognize the talent is amazing and you're right. Dan If if he he does just hey I'm going to be a patriot. I'm going to actually be a decent teammate and be a decent human being craig now all of a sudden they are going to be unstoppable. You know I I know that he will be that know. How could you trust it. How could you trust her and you're looking at this look. I've stood on the tail for anybody. I said I could coach anybody in this early. I'd have a tough time coaching this guy right now and I know for a fact he wouldn't play for me. He wouldn't play for Mike Tomlin. He couldn't play for me. He might be able to play eight for Bill Belichick Brady coaching and that's going to be interesting because remember he left Oakland or was driven Oakland or wanted out of Oakland because he would not conform into the way that they wanted to do some things. He was not willing to change the way that he wanted to do it. That's what the Patriots are. All about. Conform is not a bad word like there is a way to go about doing things in New England if he doesn't do that. He won't last a couple of weeks what he's a great teammate. If you're on Antonio Brown's team everything's about Antonio Antonio Brown yeah. That's why I got news for you kid. They're not gonNA conform to hugh better informed this and be proud of it. You can host a super bowl trophy with the New England patriots. Everybody thinks your clown right now so to me you could prove everybody wrong and conform to this or whatever be a great great teammate like everybody else's. We'll see if that's what they're able to do. We have much more on how we got to this. As we continue to let me go back on the field here because our next game giants cowboys which of course meant the return of that Guy Zeke Elliott they'd working back slowly frankly they didn't need him quickly that Prescott all how about another welcome back Jason Whitney yeah the move down in the down near the end zone getting tacked on the move with the little slip to the flat on a fake block early points for the cowboys and they came often just over a minute to play the hat. How about this throw from Prescott to Amari run it out there and just place it in his hands. Listen Amari Cooper again changing offense you give them one on one decks. GonNa hold his is down. The Middle Battlefield. We're versus a rookie cornerback. Absolutely perfect throw early second-half wrecks. The cowboys are up twenty one ten and Dak at random cow does randall title cob. Get this open because he's playing the giants. That's how they were awful on defense yesterday. They were awful it really this was a combination of deck looking great in his offense and the giant defense looking absolutely confused here we go Dallas in the red zone and Oh yeah they still have Zeke to Dallas. Cowboys play caller all of that knows how to get your guys the ball motion hand off the Zeke and you see he's still physical find his whole little bounce on the outside of corner and a d. Tackle me finish through the end zone. You want numbers on back twenty five thirty two four hundred five yards four touchdowns Dallas a huge opening win for the game. I'm here nobody happier to have all the cowboys back deck of all the cowboys quarterbacks ever. Roger Staubach Troy Aikman et Cetera only Tony Romo and Nasdaq thrown for four hundred hundred yards and four touchdowns in a game in Franchise History Romo. Did it twice. Prescott did it yesterday against the giants and so the first thought that you had is you what I was falling when you on twitter yesterday as you watch this thing with deck yesterday was what Kellen Moore might become Dak Prescott Sean mcvay. The I've been touting Kelvin's names since he got that job but the way he utilized not only play action when he used to play action how you used the play action who we use the play action with it getting his guys the ball out in speights whether it's Randall cod down the middle of field they gave a slicer scissors action with the play action fake that holds the linebackers cobb down the middle of the field. You've got Amari Cooper okay. I'm GONNA give you one on ones. We see rental Qods again. Touchdown down the middle of field again cooper one on one Kelly knows if you're going to line up with a rookie quarterback rookie corner down in the red zone versed Amari Cooper. I'M GONNA make sure my quarterback has an option because this here's the thing that changed this plate. The line of scrimmage changed route at the line of scrimmage. You're talking about an offensive coordinator and play call giving his guys tools at the line of scrimmage. Go Win Games and play well. You know that's great and man you're you're. You're going to get this guy head coaching job because he liked twenty five coaching and I get it but he came under Scotland hand. He played for Scotland and a hand he was he did he knows Lenihan. That's it so that's great <hes> but it's the offense align the fact that that offensive line is healthy and and you got a more confident. Dak Prescott whether be because the coordinator or not and you have more weapons you get. Zeke back in their Dallas looks real but that offense alliance. It's GonNa make them look good. Can I just tell you this. You know the three words. Everyone was tweeting about deck yesterday. Pay The man no not right now. I don't think you have to be in a hurry to sign this guy. Let's see against. Let's see him when he when he plays against an outstanding defense and we'll see how he's come along. I don't think you know some of the money's Janis thrown out there. When you hear like forty million a year there's no way I'm giving the Guy Forty million but you watch yesterday? I did watch yesterday but the funny thing is I coulda had the Dan Perfect rating and listen to me the throat. You're seeing there any. NFL quarterback can make any NFL everytime and I've been saying this for a couple of weeks. If I'm deck Scott I'm not taking the contract from the cowboys because they're obviously not meeting the number that I want and that the number that I feel deserved on never been hurt so that's not a concern of mine nine. I've never played poorly if I'm back. This is the best team I've ever had around me and I've never had a play caller like all those reasons or why you should take the money. I wouldn't taste in Dallas why because playing for them. You're going to get more money off the field. All kinds of things and how much do you need. If you're making over the has been report even thirty million dollars. I'm taking thirty eight outs me. I'm betting on myself too but I'm not an idiot if I get injured. I'm not gonNA make a dime so I'm gonNA. Take that kind of money. I got to tell you this. He's GonNa Laugh at thirty million dollars by the time ends up getting sign one way or whatever it is. I'm not laughing at I'll take rex's just getting warmed up. Meanwhile L. Dunkin again is with us this morning. I'll take it away all right greedy time to run their hurry up. We start with the most intriguing me in all of football rams fans. I think we're probably panicked at first todd gurley eight a yards rushing in the first half of their one over Carolina but then in the second half he explodes for eighty nine so Dan. What does this say about how the rams plan to use them. Todd Gurley for the rams is going to be a little bit like Marianna. Oriana Rivera was for the Yankees. He's not GONNA be Andy Pettitte in the horse. That goes seven eight innings. He's going to be the closer for this football team in games and later on in the season how about chiefs receiver tyreek Hill going down in the first half with clavicle injury so it essentially paved the way for Sammy Watkins Ridiculous Day Rexy at three touchdowns in their win over the jags looks a little bit different right than when you coach them in buffalo you what I had them healthy for like five games. I thought he was going to be one of the best receivers in the league. Unfortunately he could never say healthy but if this guy is healthy oh my goodness get copied. Who Want to stop this team. It's a little bit of an embarrassment of riches is an his. NFL debut yesterday number one overall pick tyler moore struggled for most of the game through for only seventy yards in one pick in the first three quarters but then he turned it on late two touchdowns in the fourth helped his team overcome an eighteen point deficit forced overtime the game ended with a tie which no one wants to hear but Dan what were your biggest takeaways from his maiden voyage in the league well obviously the first three quarters was ugly but the reality is everyone thinks this offense is strictly about Tempo Temple Temple. It's about rhythm and they were not able to find any in a rhythm early on the first couple drives were backed up and they had some penalties and so there was no rhythm to this offense for the first quarter they played badly and then there was some tips balls does that he's going to have some completions down the field but at the end of the day once they did get an that sounds simple but they got a first down and you're the end of the game they got another first down and then he started table to throw the ball downfield because someone that rhythm and he found fits a little bit in for a young quarterback tyler. Moore's GonNa walk away going. I probably got to try and make a concerted effort to get the ball to fits more early in our football games and push the ball downfield I take away the mory is going to be everything that I hoped he would be our thought he would be coming into the NFL. It just took them three quarters to realize it because there was two questions going into this people wanted to see right away how would it an air raid offense essentially work in the NFL and would his height the issue. Did you get answers to either one of those things after week. One air raid was I would say cliff was too cute with his play calls. It can't trying to prove everybody. Here's the air raid in not relying on the people that he had and just running their system and then the second thing with the balls listen. There was like three or four of them. I'm not concerned about it. I would say that toll quarterbacks get them more than short quarterbacks again. He's going to have to learn to maneuver the pocket in the NFL no concerns he'll be everything. I thought he would be so no concern for the boys in the desert greedy. I don't know if you could say the same thing for believe land right about now at exactly right avert your eyes. If you're watching in Cleveland he was the year before as number one pick. It was data you forget for Baker Mayfield in the browns. Take on Tennessee in the fourth quarter down by nine and then this stuff starts to happen. Dan What is it that you think Baker Gra Mayfield is missing here as he threw three picks well the afternoon. This throw is just behind O B J. This is a little bit of frustration showing itself. I'm trying to force first of all and get a big completion. That's the story that game for Baker down. They come the other way Tennessee and Delaney Walker. He talked to talk all week long. We walk the walk with two touchdown catches in the second that can have a sixteen point lead and then it may feel back to throw again any is picked off again now. Logan Ryan on sitting on the the route. He knows it's third and short. You can be aggressive because they've got a lead in the fourth quarter Baker kind of telegraph that easy pick one more time. This one gets tip. This one gets picked as one goes back to the house. Mayfield's take twenty five of thirty eight to eighty five a touchdown and three picks the titans celebrating on the road tough start for Baker in the browns. Everybody's GonNa throw some trash. I think that's good. I know what that meant. We have in this locker room and quite frankly. I don't really give a damn what happens on the outside. I know how we're GONNA react. I know what we're going to do. Do how we're going to bounce back and we've got a Monday night game coming up so <hes> we don't really care they were who we thought they were. If you want to crown him crown they still got to play football. Today we show we play better football Delaney Walker Channeling Dennis Green but you heard Baker say everyone's going to throw them in the trash. Are we throwing the browns and the trash after one bad game no but we're flinch in at least I am. I expected a lot more out of this team. Look let's give the titans credit to they. They'd beat the tar out of this team when you look at what they did defensively some of Baker's throws right there. This is a great play by the safety that paid a billion dollars to buy rid or whatever Carr's name has fired but he's an amazing player and then but but you look at it they just were more physical and he just pounded the May took it to him now. Look at my embarrassed embarrassed for the way they played. Eighteen penalties get beat oh by the way by thirty points. Let's not kid ourselves. They got beat by thirty and if you think that oh no reason to be concerned. Oh you're out of your mind. You just mentioned the penalties okay eighteen penalties for one hundred eighty two yards which was seventy five more yards than the next closest team. It was their most penalties in a game since nineteen fifty one Dan. Are you shaking no first of all. I don't care if who who you're playing. You're not going to be anybody anybody when you have eighteen penalties a couple of things eighteen penalties. Why are your season over eighteen. They played a lot of stupid penalties and selfish or it's been like conduct penalties. I want to say a couple of things so watching Baker play. It almost looked like Baker was trying to prove what was said about him. In this team all off season right every single play like he was trying to hit the home run every play and we'd start. That's I play the game forcing the ball into some coverage. He held the ball way too long so this is going to be a good learning example. I said the most important thing for this football team was. How were they going to handle. When the bad stuff happened I did not expect that stuff happened happened week. One everyone going. Where's the leadership going to come from. It has baker mentioned it but let's talk about the penalties because I know that everyone's like Oh. Oh this is an indictment on Freddie kitchens and it's a reflection of your coaching last year teams that wants to the playoffs I mean Andy Reed's a phenomenal head coach worse than the NFL and Penalties Your Guy Harbor in Baltimore one of the NFL's great head coaches their bottom five penalties last year yeah but he doesn't seventeen very the seahawks. Get the benefit of always complicated. Here's trading was running back coach and they commit eighteen yesterday and they make a lot of mistakes yesterday and is but they're trying to go from zero to sixty almost literally in a year. Your confidence is shaken. Let's also talk about this in order to win football. Maybe the world is going to change completely. Everyone's gotTa have have one agenda and that is winning when you're star receiver is running around on a football field wearing a three hundred fifty thousand dollar watch for which he knows he's going to get fined and that's Odell Beckham Junior. I'm not convinced convinced everyone's agenda. First and foremost is went. No I agree and I totally disagree with the fact that it's is this reflection that coach oboe hell yes. It's a reflection on the coach. He's GonNa wish he was a quarterback coach again this week because he's going to take it but that's part of the job as being a head coach but when you get a guy undisciplined undisciplined kick somebody a player in the face gets toss out of gay eighteen penalties. Are you kidding me. It's a reflection on the very top start for the Cleveland browns very good start for us here and we're. We're just getting rolling on. Get up this morning. The Antonio Brown shells landed in New England. Do we think Fellowship Brady and company will be able to make this work or will the drama continued plus why is Carson Wentz one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. He does one thing very very well Dan. We'll tell you what that is and why. We're going to see a lot of it. It's on ESPN. 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That was door set once your door set twice twice. This is a fifty eight yard touchdown door set would finish the game four catches ninety five yards two touchdowns as he just wrongs through the defense and this one was over practically before it started hats up twenty seven three in the third quarter and REX. Here's the thing Brady can still take a hit as he does here and Finds Jazz Gordon on another the long ball and he's still he's still the best quarterback in the history of the game and he's still playing at an amazing level. He takes his shot there but Brady would finish twenty four thirty six six three forty one and three touchdown patriots role. There's an old baseball expression from twenty years ago. Chicks dig the long ball. How much do you like like thrown a deep yeah. That's a good thing you agree. We all did the long ball big log. I I don't know I feel we could have all done without that but one way or another it is time for sneaky Hembo REX. There are only two players who ever record one hundred passes in a season from Tom Brady. Can you name them while you would think could is wes Welker and Julian Edelman and but I'm a little worried because it's so obvious there's no way that's right. So what is your actual guests. That's my guess and guess what it's correct. Yeah there you go it is it is it is operatives razor. The simplest answer is generally the truth that is Welker and Julian Edelman. Brown has caught one hundred passes in each of his last six seasons. Let's see if he's able to do that as he now joins the New England patriots L. Thoughts there. Yes well okay so I want you to think about your favorite movie right and it probably has some twists and turns turns. You didn't see coming so from the edge of your seat. You probably find yourself saying wow out loud at least a couple of times. If you agree and checked every box I said I'd like to submit Antonio Brown's rounds last five months as a candidate for the Academy Award for best picture or to some maybe best performance in a horror movie either way. Here's a look back at the most bizarre the story that the NFL has ever seen a huge day for Raider nation. I am so excited. Sit next to Antonio Brown almost game too great if would-be here before making his dad grise like Antonio grounded never ends well. I expect a lot more drama from the book. It's speed on a wide receiver if on the raiders. If I'm Jon Gruden Mike May off. I'm concerned you know Dan Quayle Jon Gruden cool with a new sit down the practice because he'll have helped. It's time for him to be all in. We're all out. He's all in with the raiders. We just want a helmet. That's worked for him a general manager and a star wide receiver separate for wanting to go at one another in Tokyo browns not in the building. Today won't be practicing emotional about an opium of you understand why it's up to us. He would like to play when a Josh my teammate organization he won't keep in house stuff in house sales over the new gets fined two hundred and fifteen thousand on dollars for conduct detrimental and then hours after the raiders way Antonio Brown around thirty one year old wide receiver sign with the tree is you can't make any of this out because it would all feel to unbelievable joining us now or NFL insider Chris Mortenson. What more can you tell us more about how Antonio Brown was finally released from the raiders. Well listen we we saw the pattern of it you know he's very active on social media anyways but I know that he consulted with various advisors <hes> you calm some social media consultants but and as everything was on furling with the raiders you saw a number of tweets or facebook or Instagram <hes> messages from Swim Antonio Brown as he did in fact ask some of them how what's a good strategy to get myself out of here as quickly as possible and if you go back to last Wednesday today when he posted that letter from Mike mayock might have been the day before that he was being fine and it was I saw the phrase conduct detrimental. That's what that's what created confrontation with the next day which he created his own absence and then the emotional apology but then back when he got another letter that he was basically losing his guaranteed money that's when he went beserk and he posted that <hes> video with the grooten conversation not only Jon Gruden was upset about that one but the next day was released me and and at that point I think Mark Davis the owner Mike mayock the GM and even Jon Gruden eventually said okay this is this the circus has to end. I loved it wire-tapping <music>. You're tapping wasn't enough like that. Wasn't the final do believe L. That Jon Gruden actually found that amusing <hes> so the wiretapping did not bother Jon gruden probably bothered everybody else but I think just was a series of things that happened. I think that the raiders did not pay Antonio Brown one penny one penny since he since <hes> that took place with the Pittsburgh steelers stick by more because again Greenie. It's just an unbelievable story that continues to just have new levels and layers. We've been on the air for eighteen months. I think my new favorite phrase ever is the wiretapping being didn't bother jonkers. We've now got to where I'm just. GonNa say this quite simply. Okay Restaurant Coach for longtime. He coached a lot of big personalities. Would you want right now. Antonio Brown on your football this and it sounds crazy that I'm going to say this Greenie but no as much as I love talent and there's no way I mean look I know we'd have no respect for me. Never respected Mike Tomlin. Never respected grew nor or maybe it's something else I maybe it's not respect but he doesn't care about. Let's put it that way. He only cares about himself. Now we're going to find out do. I actually think it's going to work in New England and like this sounds crazy but he's GonNa last the season there. I can promise you why 'cause new. England wants to get that third round. Pick when somebody else makes the mistake of signing this guy to a long term deal. I'd be surprised if he lasted this season. I'll go back to two things trust one of the one of the foundations of New England's philosophy and their successes trust the same guy that quit on this football team in week seventeen last year and betrayed everybody in Oakland used everyone in Oakland. Do we think automatically going to become a different person to his whose core in a week and then also the fact of you have to be willing to go to New England and we've seen it time and time again in the great thing about new wayland is whether it's a draft pick or free agent signing if you don't they have no emotional concern about cutting ties with you. That's the difference between New England. Everyone else's this is they're willing to admit mistakes and if he doesn't go in there and again. I'll use the word conform to the way that they want to do their everyday business. They will not feel bad about this is not going to work out. You're not what's right for our football team and the best for our fifty three. We no longer need. You surprised it'd be vetoed. It really isn't trussell. Dan and I agr