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Show sample for 4/12/21: DEATH TO THE NINES

Ground Zero Media

12:20 min | Last week

Show sample for 4/12/21: DEATH TO THE NINES

"I'm clyde lewis. You're listening to a sample of today's ground. Zero show lewis and this is ground zero the numbers to call tonight. Five zero three two five zero eight sixty five zero three two five zero eight sixty coming to you live across the country. Thanks to gab. Networks in some broadcasting also independently on aftermath dot. Fm talk stream live dot com member of. You don't get a chance to hear the show. You want to repeat performance or play one and two convenient time sign up aftermath dot media. That's after media. Find out what payment plan works for you and it supports the show and it also provides for you all kinds of information used to research from news aggregated to library books videos to study halls. Some of your favorite conspiracy theorist and other and that's all available aftermath dot. fm that's aftermath dot fm. You listen in the aftermath dot media to sign up for a sign of for the libraries. It's available now defined weekend. I had An opportunity to do a lot of studying a lot of this weekend and A lot of things. Lot of synchronicity. That happened First of all there was a video that was broadcast here in portland. talk pediatrics. Rpd talk and it was a video that i did back in two thousand seven at the ground zero lounge Fourteen years ago. I was on stage and i was talking about cove. Nineteen believe it or not. I was talking about a contagion that I was talking all the way down to the idea that they'd get us to wash our hands and to Avoid each other and I didn't know the got in so much detail. Because i don't i put in so much work in to the shows and i do them every day and i sometimes don't have the opportunity to to see some of my work here my work performed or what have you I don't i don't go back and listen to my show that i'm listening to me unless i'm doing research but It was amazing that fourteen years ago the audience of ground zero lounge that Had a chance to watch it the watched it now. Got to see how you know. Ground zero. the show has been around for so many years and every time we've come on the air we've tried to provide you with show that would give you insight as to what's happening in the future and we've been pretty accurate you know you know. It's not easy to get everything down to the t. But using history as your guide and using numbers and using. I don't know there are all kinds of resources. You can use to try and figure out what's coming it's on the map it's all in the it's all in the patterns. It's all in for example on april eighth. There was a curious article that was published. I saw it on page six. And i saw it In the guardian which is a british tabloids and it was all about prince harry and meghan markle it said in the headline were called to prince. Harry meghan markle's Southern california home nine times nine months. That was a headline that the police were called to harry and megan's house nine times in nine months so once a month they get a phone call f for the house Harry megan in california. That was april. The eighth and on april ninth. It was announced that prince. Philip duke of edinburgh died at the age of ninety nine on april ninth which was ninety nine days into the year. April ninth twenty twenty one digital. Es four nine twenty twenty one now if you add that together for plus nine plus to plus zero plus two plus one it equals eighteen. Now when you do numbers like this you have to reduce it down so you reduce down one. Plus eight is nine. Four plus dine plus to plus zero plus two plus one eagles eighteen oneplus. Eight is nine. So april ninth ninety nine hundred hundred a year. Prince william i mean sorry. Prince phillip was ninety. Nine years old digitally. The date reduced down was nine and it was interesting because no matter what is done through the most complex multiplication of nine by any other number in the end the final question is nine and nine stands for for example a lesson civil multiplication shows that when we multiply by nine the answer would reduce will always be nine nine times one nine. Nine times two is eighteen. Oneplus eight t oneplus eight eagles nine nine times three is twenty seven two seven nine nine times four. His thirty six three equals nine. Nine times i was forty five. Four plus five is nine nine. Nine six is fifty four. Five plus four is nine nine times seven sixty three six plus three is nine all the way down to nine times. Eleven which is ninety nine. Nine plus nine is eighteen. Oneplus eight is nine and then of course nine times twelve one hundred eight one. Zero eight equals nine. One plus zero plus eight equals nine. So it's written in the bible that jesus died at the ninth. Our the number nine is also known. The bible is the number of also nine generations from adam to noah and also from noah to abraham lincoln in the bible that abram was ninety nine years old the moment when he got the name abraham and when he received the covenant from god. It is also said in the bible that cornelius. Who was the century and of rome. Had a vision on the ninth hour of the day and he was told that he should contact the apostle. Peter is also important to say there were nine groups. Who used to practice sorcery. And they were mentioned in the old testament. Nine is a mystical number. Nine in numerology is a portent number prince. Philip's death discharged it. Uncanny coincidence a trip listrik numbers nine nine nine so a numbers triple like this. It means there's a major event in the works so something big is supposed to go down as was mentioned during the time we were working the itc white circle technology. When we had guns florida on the program talking about these asked. god's the voices came forward saying something big was going to happen and some saying that it had to be. The bloodline will that it was probably something to do with Something to do with prince philip. We didn't know because we had no idea that prince film was going to die. But you you. You follow the pattern of nines right. We may see some significant changes I think April the eighteenth be looking for some significant stuff. Going down or april the twenty third. You may want to keep those on your calendar because these are two dates that stick out in my mind is being multiples of nine. So these things can be one big coincidence. I will admit but they still fascinating the nine nine nine symbolism has been debated in around the internet. I mean there have been a lot of people who somehow determine that the number nine is the inverted six six six and has to be. Somehow the number of meaning is the opposite of. You know what i'm saying. It's a i. I don't know how they come up with that i i. It's a misconception. Okay we need to open up the numeric flash in the psych and understand that the number nine applied to the end of the numeric line. It's important that that is what it is remember. I was talking about during the ides of march. The no nece the known as are the end days nine known a means nine. No nine no. It's negative it. Means the end of one timeline or the end of one numeric line and many people while you read some you know lighthearted you know flash anomaly flashy getting you know kinda the the fluffy New age stuff. They'll say nine is a great number for this. This this this this reason. But if you read the satanic bible and you read anton levay you find that anton levin and many others satanic orders councils but mind you. They think that the number nine is the devils number. And there's a symbol is a symbol that both forward and backward six six six nine nine nine is the number of evil it has been given a sinister nature again by anton. The vague church of satan the number of the forces of destruction when you look at the number of forces destruction. It's always nine in book of inuk. An apocryphal book in the was supposed to be in. The bible was written that god asks ten angels to oversee the creation of the earth but one had turned away leaving nine. Who was the angel that turned away. Yeah it was then. The number of nine became the number of rebellion. Nine applies to the rebellious angel. And who was the rebellious angel lucifer. Nine is the number of the ego nine always returns into itself. That's why i did this. Multiplication tables nine will always turn unto itself when multiplied when nine is used in magic. It creates chaos. When you triple any power number you increase its value. And many people put a great deal of significance in numeric sequences. Because there are many who understand that god and the devil always speak in numbers and there are many inscriptions denote goodness and wholeness while others are tricky and deceitful. The number nine has always remained a mystery number that mesmerizes people in many times. We are aware of the power of numbers upon the collective consciousness. Having nine nine nine or the number nine nine nine vigilant publicity showing up in public consciousness in the past has indicated that chaos is underway or about to take place. Now you remember. Prince died before what is going. On in minnesota to the young man forte. Right was shot by a police officer. And now there's curfews. In minnesota there are riots in minnesota. And we know anything about the triple kitted numbers. This is going to get worse before it gets better like i say. Be looking for april. Eighteenth april twenty third. I'm sure there are other dates. But we have this window. Eighteen th through the twenty third and there may be other windows beyond but be prepared. April is the cruellest month. Five zero three two two five zero eight sixty at five zero three two five zero eight sixty. I'm clyde lewis. You're listening to ground zero and we'll be back. I'm played lewis. And you've just listened to a segment of ground zero in order to access. The complete archive shows podcasts. You must sign up on our secured server at aftermath dot media. It's only four ninety. Nine a month for the archive shows podcasts. Or you want access to the ground zero online library which includes videos audio clips e books documents a social media platform plus the archives shows podcasts. It's nine ninety nine among again. That's aftermath dot media at aftermath dot media. Thanks for supporting ground zero.

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Crimes of Passion Bites: Satanism

Crimes of Passion

17:26 min | 10 months ago

Crimes of Passion Bites: Satanism

"Welcome to podcast crime bites. He wanted to give our listeners some additional compensate to help them dive even deeper into the true crime world. Every week in addition to your normal crimes of passion episode, we're exploring the most fascinating true crime. Themes covered across the podcast network. We've collected short clips from some of our most popular podcast originals to help explore ideas like motivation, method and madness and show how interconnected the true crime road really is, you can find the original episodes for free on spotify over every you listen to podcasts. A list of episodes that we used will be posted in the episode description. Today, we're discussing satanism. What kind of influence has satanism had on crime and society? American society at large I became aware of satanism in the nineteen sixties, when a series of murders committed by the Manson family in were attributed to satanism and the cult. That same decade Anton La- Bay published the Satanic Bible which became the basis text for the Church of Satan. The occult Ben made its way into the entertainment world, giving way for films such as Rosemary's baby in nineteen, sixty, eight and the exorcist in nineteen seventy-three. The nineteen seventies and eighties saw trend of serial killings committed by self-proclaimed Satanists, including Richard Ramirez who had a Pentagram drawn at his Palm and David Berkowitz Aka son of Sam, who claimed he committed his murders as part of a satanic death cult, the stereotypes and fear seem to culminate in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s and early ninety S. when the United States went through mass media, scare known as the Satanic Panic. The panic stemmed from a series of false allegations of ritual. Sexual Abuse of children in day cares. Today's clips will feature some crimes associated with satanism and the impact of this association. OUR FIRST CLIP is from serial killers and highlights David Berkowitz also known as son of Sam David Berkowitz sent terror through New York City during the summer of Nineteen, seventy, six, killing six people and wounding seven others. The. Murders caused a media storm Berkowitz sent taunting letters to the new. York Police Department and gave himself nicknames in a letter sent to the Daily News. Berkowitz was suffering from schizophrenia which brings on an inability to distinguish fantasy from reality. It Berkowitz's fantasies. He assigned demons to the people and animals in his life. Well, despite admitting to killing the women out of hatred, David Continued his studies of Occult Imagery and Deem Analogy, he expressed a particular interest in an alleged. Celtic Deity someone. Someone became the center of David's demonic fantasy. He read as much as he could. About the demon in order to feed into his demon fantasy story, he bought books on black magic cultism, and even satanism for him. These books and images provided a further outlet for sinister urges. Soon Sawan became a symbol of his darker more sinister impulses and hatred towards women. Through sow when he prayed for more opportunities to hurt women. So, what is this? OWAN AC some kind of Satanic Deity well. That's the interesting thing while some people may argue that someone is an ancient Celtic Deity, most historians observed sow in as an ancient holiday, the precursor to All Saints Day the day of the dead and even Halloween. Wait what? Someone is actually a holiday or festival, representing the end of the harvest season, and the start of winter usually celebrated around October. Thirty first been ancient times people would dress up light bonfires and celebrate the end of the harvest with a big festival in some cases, people even carved faces in gourds and dressed up as spirits going door to door to get food interesting. Interesting, so how did he get a demon from a holiday? Most likely during his obsession with the occult, he found a book referenced Sawan as the Celtic God of death, which is now recognized, doesn't misconception of the holiday and its meaning that's fascinating will wrong or not David began to pray, and even make offerings to sell it to further feed into his control fantasy. A, like in his previous apartment, he began to scribble and right, strange and disturbing phrases all over his apartment walls. He even started to write poetry with one of his favorite pieces, being the mother of Satan. David was building a new persona around his fascination with the occult and this fictional sow win character, a persona that had control of others. And Pretty Soon David was going to pull all of New York into his control fantasy. In that clip from serial killers, we heard David Berkowitz embracing a deep fascination with satanism and the cult. Following Berkowitz's arrest in August nineteen, seventy, seven. He confessed to police his satanists beliefs. Berkowitz claimed he'd been plagued by the box of his next door. Neighbor's dog Sam Berkowitz believed that San was possessed by a demon who was giving him orders to kill. Later after Berkowitz was convicted, he admitted at the dog story was a hoax. Berkowitz perpetuated his own Satanic Myth. What what happens when the public accuses someone of being a satanist. Coming up, we'll discuss the purported satanic murder of Jeannette Depalma. Chew Crime Fans, you're going to want to hear this to commemorate our fourth anniversary podcast and the team behind unsolved murders are a closer look at what it takes to catch a killer. It's a thrilling new show that you can only find on spotify, and it's called salt murders true crime mysteries. Every Wednesday, you'll follow the clues and uncover the missing pieces to some of history's most gripping cases. Join host Carter and Wendy well as an ensemble cast of voice actors, as they explore the days months, and even years leading up to a killer being caught. Each episode of solved murders. Please out like a classic murder mystery where the final reveal is nearly as shocking as the murderer itself. From the butcher of Plainfield, avenue. To America's for serial killer H H. Holmes these accounts are all real, all riveting and only available on spotify. Not Every story has a happy ending, but at least they have an ending. Follow soft murders, true crime mysteries free and only on spotify. Now back to the show. The mysterious nature of Satanism makes it ripe for a public interest when a crime is attributed to the occult. Sometimes that claim is brought on by the killer himself such as in the case of David Berkowitz, but sometimes the media starts the rumor. In our next clip from park has original. Murders we cover the nineteen seventy-two murder of sixteen-year-old Jeannette Depalma whose remains were found an cliff in New Jersey. Because the case is still unsolved, the motive for the murder is unknown, but accusations that she was the victim of satanic ritual gain traction. Several newspapers reported the killing as an occult sacrifice. Soon the accusations turned to jeanette herself. Some Springfield Township residents even started to wonder if Ginette had brought her death upon herself. Well I heard she was a witch. Or hung around with a crowd that was into that stuff. Yeah, totally I heard she had some occult books in her bedroom or something. Maybe she wanted to sacrifice herself. I saw some kids out at watchung reservation, decapitating pigeons awhile back and I heard there was a goat sacrifice around there at some point to. The stories about witchcraft, Springfield Township and the surrounding Union county usually stories, featuring teenagers weren't limited to the DEPALMA story the Elizabeth, daily. Journal ran an article entitled Do Pupils Pray To the devil on October fourth, nineteen, seventy two. It cited a high school sophomores testimony that teenagers were hosting seances and occult rituals in the woods. There were whispers of the witches are reported Satanic Group operating in the area. There is evidence that local residents believe there was a real a presence in Union county in the Nineteen Seventies. Though these kinds of claims were routinely used to demonize culture groups, the changing social norms in views of drug usage of many nineteen seventies, teens probably lead peers in adult members of the community to blow any strange behavior out of proportion into something much larger than it was. When even the hairstyles and clothing choices of some of these young people looked so strange. It's not hard to see how anti normative behavior might have been framed as Anti-christian occult practices, but it's also worth pointing out that led which was found in very high levels. Internet's body is commonly used in occult rituals. According to some a cultists, it's considered the medal of Resurrection in transformation, and is sometimes used in rituals involving communication with the underworld engine. It was found on a rock called devils teeth. It sounded like the kind of place where Satanists would commit a ritual sacrifice. That clip from loved murders highlighted the rumors swirling around the murderer up, Ginette Depalma, in addition to the lead evidence, and the discovery of the body on doubles teeth. Some news sources reported that you nets body had been surrounded by strange occult like objects, and that her corpse was laid upon a Pentagram the police denied any existence of a Pentagram or occult objects, surrounding the body. But the police statements did not quell the rumors. Weird NJ articles published in early two thousands ramped up the rumors once again. The articles included anonymous statements from residents, claiming to know about the satanic cult that committed the murder and accusing Springfield police of covering up the satanic nature of the crime. Both of the clips played so far have detailed crimes attributed to Satanism, but next we'll hear about the man who literally wrote the book on Satanism. Our final clip is from colts and details, the life of Anton Levay, who founded a Church of Satan in nineteen, sixty six, and wrote it central religious text the Satanic Bible. In, the late nineteen sixties, Levin immersed himself in the Hollywood crowd, rubbing elbows with the likes of Jayne, Mansfield and liberace. It was during this time that he would meet a future household name in her own right Susan Atkins. During this period Anton Levin came into contact with someone else of note future. Manson family member Susan Atkins. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, seven Anton, was curated event called the topless witches review at a San. Francisco, nightspot in north, Beach Atkins was working as a stripper at the club when the vase saw her perform, he approached her boss Mr Garnett about hiring her to perform in the show. Her role was a topless vampire who emerges from a coffin and dances around the stage in a Cape. She was immediately struck by particularly his physical appearance, Atkin said quote. The man seemed to be dressed entirely in black, his face, and the top of his bald head were extraordinarily Pale White. The intensity of the strangers black is deepened. As he watched my movements in quote in reflecting on this time Anton remembered her as just another haight street out. Levy said quote she'd beg off for her Cels, saying she had a fever of one hundred eight, but in the end she made a fine vampire and quote. levay invited pins back to the black house for gatherings and rituals, and the pair became very close for a short time. During the same period Atkins spiraled into an endless cycle of alcohol drugs and casual sex. Her boyfriend at the time expressed concern that being in the bay show was negatively affecting. Her skin's was not yet involved with the notorious cult leader Charles Manson. It would be two years until she and three other members of the Manson, family murdered five in one bloody night, but in her nineteen seventy seven book child of. Of Satan Child of God Atkins singles outlive Aa as the catalyst for her downfall. She wrote quote. The show was a smash it along. The Strip Garnett had scored big, but the witch's Sabbath and might total sell out to LSD. Marijuana and hashish and to sex with virtually any attractive man landed me in the hospital in four months I was half dead from Ghana and had a complete physical breakdown and quote. In that clip, we heard Church of Satan Founder Anton Lamaze short-lived interactions with Susan Atkins two years after this meeting Susan, Atkins and Family members committed several murders including Sharon tate's. Susan. Atkins wasn't obeys only connection to the Manson family filmmaker Kenneth Anger, who was godfather to live as children allowed Bobby Beausoleil to move in with him, and cast him in one of his films in the role of Lucifer. But relations between anger and Beausoleil soured and Beausoleil moved out of the home and allegedly stole the film. Just a year later in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thousand nine. Bolsa Soleil Charles Manson killed Gary Hinman the first death in the series of killings. That Manson. hoped would spark helter skelter. Today's crime bites highlighted three cases associated with satanism. Any crime related to satanism provokes a media firestorm of rumors and speculation. This was displayed in the clip from unsolved murders in which murder victim Jeannette Depalma was rumored to be involved in her own satanic ritual murder. In serial killers David Berkowitz played off fear and misunderstanding around the cult to craft an elaborate hoax about his neighbors possessed dog, and in colts we heard from the man who started the Church of Satan himself Anton Bay, who had loose connections to members of the murderous Manson family Manson took the threads of ideas and twisted them into a dark spree of death. Before he murdered Sharon Tate. What of Manson's followers proclaimed I'm the devil I'm here to do the devil's business. Thanks for tuning into podcast crime bites. We hope you enjoyed this episode on Satanism. We'll be back next week with a new episode on isolation. Criminals sequestered their victims. And how does it affect them? If you like to listen to the codes. Discuss today in full simply search for our park has to original shows, serial killers, unsolved murders or cults on spotify. spotify already have all your favorite music, but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals for free from your phone, desktop or smart speaker. I'll see you next time. If you love the. Tales told in crimes of passion. You're going to want to check out the new park. Ass Series solved murders true crime mysteries. It's from the team that brought you unsolved murders in an explosive days months, and even years leading up to a killer, being caught new episodes premiere every Wednesday follow soft murders, true crime mysteries free and only on spotify.

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The Devil is In the Details

Nighttide

53:20 min | 1 year ago

The Devil is In the Details

"In the darkness yawn the railed wealth and the pleasures of the material world which many spiritual leaders hypocritically say is our pleasure and wealth on Halloween those clad in its likeness delight and the rebel it's a symbol of free thinking the freedom from oppressive beliefs aunt a vehicle for self in power easily as it creates it's this version of the devil which gets the most impassioned reactions S. nature of the costume symbolically empowered by the ultimate taboo it often represents on Valentine's Day written mystique and power it's a symbol whose true meaning likes to hide about in plain sight its presence an often has a certain element of playfulness about it tempting us with treats its ambitious smile we'll you're one which can exist both on the spiritual and physical plane one which destroys as e ornaments there are others who believe it's an energy oppress its likeness can be found on everything from chocolates to Alcoholic Beverages Lord Sin for some it represents the release of inhibitions and the game of personal power horned ambitious figure with a two pronged fork over the years it has been a symbol of rebellion it's a piece of imagery that has popular around Halloween and Valentine's Day the red often lost in the details the devil is a creature which throughout most of history then we may think there are secrets waiting to be heard secrets that are only whispered during the night tide the adversarial type one which is the antithesis of morality it often represents the desire for power has been deeply rooted in the folklore and belief systems of much of the Western world it is commonly seen as it it's a symbol of the more carnal elements of our nature those which throughout history society has pressured US tour that it's not just a mere force but an entity one which bodes a dark chaotic in destructive power there are many who the humidity believe you that it is a truth threat to humanity a Predator who feasts on Seoul's rather than flesh a Predator which has been on the parral since time itself you rescued me tapped into manipulated and used to bring up about personal gain they're even those who believed peers unanimously nominated theophilus for the position now while this may have seen like an answer when your deepest desire all it requires is a small payment your soul Chery it seems to have all begun around the year five thirty eight C. with a Roman cleric no for others it is seen as an ends to a means and for a fee it will help you and bring into fruition listen one which also allowed him to dip into the collections box to avoid this fired a considerable amount of responsibility and an exhaustive public display of piety his prayers in actuality the office had no interest in becoming a bishop it was a position that require and after some years had managed to make quite a name for himself when the church was in need of a new bishop his during the next few weeks the office made known and what he thought was around about yet humble way ability he humbly turned the position down stating that his rival will be a far greater and holier man for the job he put on quite the performance playing the role of the pious cleric in what he thought would be an admirable display thus locking poor theophilus in the role of lowly cleric Theophilus was enraged ask of helping him contact the devil it's unknown exactly how the Necker Manser went about helping the contagious position and he soon saw the entire church as a corrupt institution that was purposely trying to the latter has been a classic cautionary tale in folklore and legends and can be traced all the way back to the sixth sense destroy his future thirsty for revenge the office sought out necker mansor and hired him for the the other man quickly accepted and the office was certain that his humble and pious act would put him in good you as the Palace of Dana the obelisk was ambitious cleric who was working his way up the church ranks laid out his demand he wanted to see the current bishop in ruin and also one of the position of Bishop that he felt called to the position of archdeacon feeling certain that the new bishop out of gratitude would grant him the Louis contact the devil but whatever the method the attempt was apparently successful devil appeared and the Palace one humble request the Philis was absolutely shocked when the Bishop assigned another man to the position unwanted and cumbersome position of Bishop the Palace devised a plan when offered the position before his peers the awfulness must keep the contract safely hidden away if any effort were made to destroy it the Philis of his actions and their true consequences had suddenly come into realisation worried for his soul the awfulness of his place within the church a week later the peers had once again unanimously elected would perish the devil was true to his word and within days it came to light that the bishop had been immediately sprung into action he told the awfulness the thieves contracts are not always permanent and if he was true instead the Philis had his sights on the position of Arc Deacon a far more comfortable position early repentant the kind and merciful God would forgive him but the most important thing to do was to destroy thus the deal was sealed the devil told him that he would collect his debt in due time but until then Lee Trinity and pledge his soul to him the aphoristic read and the devil presented him with a contract this incident and saw this as an act of betrayal he soon regretted ever giving this horrible man such an ad using his powers and the scandal in uproar caused led to not only the loss of his position but the loss the other thing if the contract was destroyed the awfulest would die or himself the devil agreed and said all would be so as long as the office agree to denounce the whole contract if either the signer or the devil destroys the contract it will become null and void six and material for fire the priests consecrated the ground with holy water carefully piled the sticks. Am for Bishop this time he graciously accepted though he sought out the position of Bishop solely for based on fathomable talent those whose compositions and performances outshone the rest those the Ovallis has intently held out the contract as if he was fearful of what was about to happen but then and a pen with a sharpened tip the awful is pricked his finger with a pen and signed the contract in his own blood full and astonishingly complex piece of classical music the piece is so difficult to perform then the awful listen the priests clutch crucifixes and said a prayer together after the prayer was finished whose musical range was unequal to anything which had come before or after their appearance on stage national purposes the awful soon found himself haunted by the dark deal he had made it was as if the severity the awful is smiled in raised his hands up into the air and said to his friend I've been forgiven oh sing prayer and then lit the fire the wood was nice and dry and the flames rose quickly later that evening the Polis and the priest found a private spot in the churchyard and work together to gather seek a deal with the devil do so for fame and it seems that in many of these tales the devil seems to have a soft gathered his strength and tossed it into the flames the flames rapidly rose and as this happened uh after which the office collapsed to the ground it seems the devil was true to his word about one confessed his actions to a friend who was also a priest the priest who is genuinely fearful for his friend's soul discovered something called the difference tone the dictionary definition of it is a tone whose frequency is equal to the spy for musicians history is filled with stories of musicians with all difference between the frequencies of two tones generating it to break down an easier terms it's a lower tone that is heard time is not only being an incredibly gifted violinist but also as being a brilliant mathematician in his brilliance suddenly took center stage for many composers of his time there was often a notable Koos ticks all based on his love of Algebra and Geometry Tur- teeny is the one who is to their fame with Kartini it just seemed as if suddenly you were there this beautiful enigma graces with the new bishop and the awfulest is is the man owed him a debt of gratitude other explanation for how this brilliance could have taken the musical world as suddenly as dead now while the trill is more than just a striking piece of music it's also an interesting story the devil's trill was all the while increasing the tempo it's enough to put most fingers in knots he not only composed hundreds of complex violin pieces he also contributed to the science of arrange it requires the violinist often requiring them to play simultaneously onto adjacent strings notion may seem rather silly Tarquini shared that during his life this was perhaps the case not all of these stories a such packs in with regret and rejection of the deal there are those who displayed curious as to if the devil himself could play Tur- teeny handed his violin it is sad to be one of if not the most difficult pieces to play on the violin post as if he was this brilliant light that seemed to have appeared out of nowhere it was as if without warning this man one which very few can play accurately it's known as the Devil's trill a sixteen minute long hauntingly beautiful there are many at the time who believed that Kartini must have made a deal with the devil there was no -opoly make such packs in trade for the fruition of their dreams and desires and fact most of those who tortilla knees rendition is magnificent he often lamented that it was rubbish compared to the composition he eight and told him that he can make his dreams of becoming the best and most wealthiest violinist of his time a reality related complexity that created a sound that seemed to grab as very being after he awoke and the devil gifted him with the skill and musical knowledge far beyond that of which any violinist before him had ever in part at least the impression of my dream in vain the music which I at this time composed is indeed when to higher notes are played with steady intensity once Kartini discovered this it became a signature heard or thought possible the composition was beautiful it went from subdued the frenzy in such cal post around seventeen thirteen by Italian composer goose separate Kartini Kartini was well known during his I heard the devil play that night Antarctic ozone words he said of the event one night ah the devil ran the bow across the strings and produced the most exquisite musical piece Kartini had ever heard the best I ever wrote and I still call it the devil's trill but the difference between it and that which moved me chanted by breath failed me and I awoke I immediately grasped my violin in order to retain Tortellini and his devil's trill is where dot originated from the devil told her teeny that he could give him fame wealth and all the earthly delights that come with it in seventeen thirteen Tarquini had a most peculiar dream he dreamt the he had awoken in his bed compound something which set him apart from all the rest during his time Tur- teeny seemed is full of twists deceit and often provides no better example of the folly of mayor hey how great was my astonishment on hearing a Santana so wonderful and so beautiful played with such sales or see images in which the devil is portrayed yielding fiddle or violin this particular tale Kartini immediately began trying to compose and replicate that haunting performance you'd heard and in the year seventeen thirteen I dreamed I'd made a pact with the devil for my soul everything went as I wished I've without the enjoyment it affords me if you've ever wondered why are we often hear Ed defined the devil standing next to him in the dream the devil told him that he had heard Kartini desperate thoughts that night lenient religion Zoroastrianism Zoroastrianism is one of the oldest continuously practice religions according to him it was how his most famous composition the devil's trill came into fruition great art and intelligence is I had never even conceived in my boldest flights of fantasy I felt enraptured transported over to the beastly looking creature before him and asked if you play him a song to Tortilla knees utter dismay in the world and it predates sixth century B C e Zoroastrianism was formed by the Zoroaster now along with creating this religion Zoroaster is also known as being the teacher of Pythagoras the benevolent creator which represents the forces of good and the destructive anger brilliant Iranian religious reformer Zarathoustra or more commonly known by the Greek form of his name all Tartan had to do was renounced his religion and pledge his soul to the devil thirteen agreed to the pact however the devil is quite fascinating history and the way this character has evolved throughout time and how our attitude the devil is an interesting character one who has often been portrayed as the artists Muse way we know it today like the beast itself the origin of the devil is quite a tricky one to pursue it religions their concept of Heaven Hell in the battling forces between God and the devil we're heavily influenced the devil you know today is primarily a Christian construct with ancient by Zoroastrianism Judaism Christianity and Islam all have roots in Jainism and the long whipping tale of a lion and Zoroastrianism there is an ever-present battle between the Benun much of the attributes imagery that we associate with the devil came from Zoroastrianism 's Angara alive free of the temptations of Sen will enter heaven living in eternal happiness with their creator to Zoroastrianism also gave the devil another one of its important attributes its origin story it's towards it have changed makes for quite an interesting tale in of itself the devil certainly didn't start out the the story of Zeus casting out the monstrous winged typhon was another bit of Lee monotheistic religion which incorporates dualistic elements in Zoroastrianism there are two main deities zoroaster was a brilliant mathematician amongst many other things Zoroastrianism is a most we're the idea came from of the double making you rich by buying your soul the integration of Greek culture in so great that I would have destroyed my instrument and have said farewell to music forever if it had been possible remedial live were the imagery of the devil sitting on a black throat wielding a two pronged fork came from the integration talk with the head of the man capped with sharpened goat horns the body of a black stallion the wings of an Eagle Haiti's into the character on Ramon you gave the devil another characteristic as well Haiti's rainy in Greek and Roman influences r-maine associations with the devil comes from the ancient Irish last minute survey and -ticipant my every desire among other things ah gave him my violin to see if he could normalcy mysteries waiting to be uncovered mysteries at suggest that there is more lurking in the darkness on you who represents the chaotic forces of evil on Karamanou is said to be a terrifying creature to behold god of the underworld gets incorporated into ceramics jainism merging his attributes with anger menu this was not just the morose God of the underworld he was also the god of wealth and abundance this menu when Alexander the great conquered the Persians and three thirty one BC Haiti's the however those who are tempted by the evil ways the anger mon you will have to go to darkened underworld forced minutes. It's believed that those who dutifully worship the benevolent creator God a Horror Mazda and Lee spend the rest of the attorney being tortured never to know the love of the Divine Creator and Abraham allege a horror Mazda and the destructive on German you as the forces of good and evil are always battling for dom a culture that got absorbed into ceramics Jainism in this story typhon was a giant weaned sir unlike monster that rose up against Zeus attempting to overthrow the God thus making himself supreme ruler ace or centers would burn for all eternity so gehenna the combustible rubbish heap from old Salaam was essentially the inspiration behind the imagery and the tortures of hell the demons by the first century see the devil Jerusalem it was called Gehenna Gehenna was a disgusting smoldering rubbish heap in by eternal burning in his fiery dominion. Have you ever been curious as to how the flames Agana execution was seen as the harshest punishment as it was a humiliating Daf as it fit well with that embattled duality between he and her Mazda in this new rendition in out of Heaven along with all of the surly angel followers thus giving us the devil and his minions over time it became a metaphor for punishment in over the years gained a more Supernatural Association by the Second Century the devils imagery gets another update large bat like or Dragon Mike Wings and fact for centuries afterwards dragons in illustrations and stories symbolize metaphor for good triumphing over evil are in this case God triumphing over Satan passes it would release during decomposition the heap was known to COMBUST SMOLDER and burn for weeks at a time during the defeated and cast down into the dark shadow world of hell centuries later this story would be adapt burning bodies made it into the devil story believe it or not it comes from real life place in old hotter days of the year the stench that permeated from this rubbish pile would make the surrounding area almost unbearable to be the here Gehenna was also a place where criminals would be taken to be executed and left to burn has evolved into a dark and powerful figure who reigns over a fiery underworld torturing those damn to be in his presence the devil so when you hear those tales of Gallant Knights pure of heart slaying the Horrid Dragon it's essentially list lowest region of the underworld this got incorporated into the story of Angra Mon you to defend Christianity with the Christian God casting the rebellious Angel We know today is Lucifer or Satan quickly and socially they become obsessed with keeping it and all the luxuries that went along with the thunder bolt into typhon the defeated typhon was then cast into Taras the deepest darkest Eamon they began illustrating the devil with pants most notable features the devil then and begins two-wheeled new power as the Roman bishops gain real power and influence both genucel lem it was a place for the area's waste was disposed of including human waste due to the gas in the fires of Hanna became the fate which awaited the wicked in the afterlife a dark and foul smelling pan was so high in those days that the bishops of the Roman Church felt threatened fearful of losing their power keep a tight control over the thoughts and practices of the general public since Pan Nation a platform for sin and thus punishment by the time the Middle Ages roll around the mighty battle the power hungry on Ramon you attempts to overthrow the mighty a horror Mazda but he that the idea of the devil begins to evolve a little more it's at this point the devil gets another makeover for the bishops decided that they needed to find a way to unify the people under the state religion and were particularly vulnerable for this sort of possession and that some may even be purposely seeking it out areas repercussions from that on the devil was everywhere and the world was nothing more than temptation those accused of heresy would be tortured until confession was rendered and then would be put to death gods and goddesses of the old religion had deceived them and that they were really the Devils Legion of Demons Dan the horned goat like God of nature and good times in fact the popularity the people were told that they worshipped any of the old gods or revered nature that they were in league with the devil which he claimed was none other than the devil itself the Church was happy to execute coach has successfully convinced it's followers that the devil in all of its evils is real and not only that but which made them not only an enemy of the church but an enemy of the state a charge which would have to worship the gods of old during three twenty three Ce the most popular and celebrated of those gods was show features and a furred lower-half like pan the church sold the deal I telling the P and becomes a cloven footed half man half goat like beast with large sharpened horns upon his head menacing is there most serious threat the bishops decided to turn the lovable nature guide into a go legged D uh while Christianity was the official religion of Rome at that time most of the population still the decree as they too had been unhappy with the Knights templar tumblers at this time have been front of the wrong faith or anyone who dared to speak out against or question the authority of the church to make matters worse the criteria for heretic was incredibly vague and essentially encompassed anyone who was deaf who's who performed any type of witchcraft sorcery or Necker Mansi not even priests were spared it would sued progress even further and the heretic hysteria was often a tool used for political gain want so on Friday October thirteenth of thirteen o seven the nights were hunted down and King Philip the fair had grown envious and even threatened by the wealth and power of the Knights templar to read executed this is also how Friday the thirteenth became associated with bad luck and evil forces we're all around summoning the devil and plaguing the land with its dark forces caused witch hunt fever tempting peace negotiations with the Muslims an effort to put the long war at end something the Church did not the devil is incredibly powerful now double doesn't just tempt you with sin it can inhabit role in the devil magic and then she was burnt at the stake this campaign self this past he formally accuses them of heresy stating that they had been seen worshiping a goat headed idol you're very body and force you to send because women were now viewed as the weaker sex it was believed that they and with it new interest in science people began pushing superstitions aside and focusing on what can out fear that sorcerers Neckermann answers witches and even renegade priests as it was believed that those who performed extra systems might very well be inviting the devil in rather than casting it the inquisition happened in thirteen twenty four in Ireland the woman's name was Alice and she was there were even those who summoned the devil to do its bidding to confront these growing threats the inquisition was told the target though once grew to alarming levels no one was safe from its grasps and it seemed that in every village there's stop mother was a witch and that she had killed their father with the help of the devil now an hour three twenty three Ce Christianity became the official religion of Rome and it's during this time in exchange for your soul all you need to do is ask it's from this time period that many as was the case with the death of the Knights templar in thirteen o seven Francis title that nature all of its worldly delights is controlled by the devil the also informed the people that the guy the material world specifically in the areas of wealth power and sex it's during the eighteen hundreds to purge the world of devil worshipping witches lasted three hundred years and killed around sixty two three hundred thousand lucky she was captured and tried in Alice's place the poor woman was brutally tortured until she confessed her this caught wind of what was going on she immediately escaped and fled to England however her lady servant wasn't so Satan becomes a tragic hero and becomes a leader for rebellions he is portrayed an art as a beautiful angel once again evolved in undergone yet another change no longer powerful or beautiful the devil the devil during this time period is often featured as tall well dressed individual he is the controller of uh in the thirteen hundred's before there were the witch hunts there was the hunt for heretics the well-known stories of packs and deals with the devil come from the early to mid eighteen hundreds also brings house and innocent people by the eighteen hundreds the age of modernism had begun breaking up the smothering power of the monarchs and empowering the People by the twentieth century the devil has hours begin to wane he's no longer a fearsome beast and becomes more human like in appearance shorter than humans with its new associations with mischief and fon advertisers `Bout Romanticism period which gets us yet another view of the devil during this period to officially began the first case of a devil conspiring which Kat leading his army in the fight against unjust dominant forces or some he is a symbol of social reform Camila stations the devil now is often considerably smaller as well often being depicted as being far begin using images of the devil to sell all matter of things including beer and chocolate approvable by science it's during this time the devil seems to lose his grip on the world and is evil accused of dealings with the devil by her stepchildren she in her step children were in a heated dispute over an inheritance increase sales. The image of the devil added in essence of alluring temptation and decadence and fun this version of the devil is not fearsome but is a rather impish looking fellow often wielding a mischievous grin rejection of the theocracy Anton Levay born Howard Stanton levay founded both the step children angered of this already wealthy woman was trying to keep their father's land from them all of the church human behaviors that the church for so many centuries at sought out to oppress all of those traits that were a half goat cloven footed creature that is associated with fine food abundance and drink Elliot's figure of the Romanticism period comes back into play and at once again becomes a symbol of uprising against unjustified adding a dancing impish devil to packaging or adverts was a way that older brands could rejuvenate their image and op believe in or worship a literal Satan it seems to be more about embracing those natural the devil has been ever changing evolving and morphing to fit the needs beliefs and attitudes of the times associated with and said to be influenced by the devil such as design higher materialism heading one's own self I first and taking part in earthly pleasure for them the double in this sense is more symbolic uh-huh a figure of just it now once again in bodies more of pans attributes a horned half man the highest reverence in value given to the self through history the concept already and that and nine hundred sixty six the devil takes another turn the Church of Satan and the religion of Lavalin satanism now while the vein Satan is sixties the Devil's path takes another turn and it once again becomes a symbol of revolution the beautiful awesome does make use of ritual magic it is very important to note that Levine satanism and its followers do thank you for listening to this episode and hope you enjoyed finding the devil in the details You can

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Anton LeVay

"Because it's supposed to be a pop culture reference. I feel like that dates. The episodes Harambee. Everybody's GonNa love her MB jokes. All Lean Mary. Only. Talk I forgot. This. Is the clock. Yeah? The stonework is a nice touch Tom Eli. I'll bite. What are you doing? And why is he's tied to a plinth in the center of the room? What's Yes, thank you see so I quit this so many times. Okay? All right I very obviously. That's an alter. That's that's not that doesn't. Word? Second. What does it look like we're doing okay? We're obviously starting at Satanic call. You could see though. Have you read this week's SAC. Slow girls money all the heath week and eat guys. Guys Know Anton Levy the entire essay was about how full of fucking shit he was. Wait. Why did he was I? Told you guys that I said that the whole time isn't listen. Why would I listen to you? Yes. He did almost none of the things he said he did. He was just a fucking con man. That's it okay, but he was a conman with. Millions of dollars right. Wait. Really millions like millions millions. I'm pretty sure millions. I mean are we allowed to Su Vida? Looks a little tough. We weren't gonNA. I don't see why not I mean I. got a really big vacuum bag. Okay, Nice Nice, okay, are you guys GonNa Finish me though gross heath I meant eating me. Did you. Now I didn't think so. The Pan low-end welcome, the citation needed the podcast where we choose a subject read a single article about it on Wikipedia and pretend we're experts, because this is the Internet and that's how it works now I'm Eli Bosnich and I'll be leading these lambs to the slaughter but I. I'll need some wolves in sheep's clothing. I up to men who saw Satan play with twenty other people in someone's garage? No. Yeah. No, he was going by the artist formerly known as the Prince of darkness. Even in his early days, you could tell he was gonna be a morning. Star And also joining US tonight, two men who soul Satan had at the rest of this snickers bar. It's fun size. Off. I'm tired of people snickering when they see me how I don't blame him. I'm just I'm tired. So tell us see so, what person place thing concept phenomenon or event will we be talking about today? What is going to skip over the Patriots? Okay Yeah No. We're going to be talking about half cat fester Antonova. Delved deep into the dark secrets of. NERD are you ready to tell us how? He waved his hands and did nothing. Ready. Alright so. Who Was Anton Levay? Anton. levay was an author musician and professional occultist who founded the Church of Satan and the religion of LE`veon's Satanism, and he's also evil universe me in like every way. Hated religion, but he he did that wrong. He looks like Superman Villain, but in a bad way in an awesome way, and his entire life is based on line, but again in a bad not like. The only difference is that unlike me Lavelli leaned all the way into it and became a millionaire, and he got to have a sex call, so I guess he's Smart University touches. They'll know. He had a sense call. We have ten thousand people who email to inform us that. We meant to say Non Avian Dinosaurs Potato I. Can Go fuck themselves. Guys, a sex cult sounds good, but. Given the Hygiene Standards Post Pandemic I'M GONNA soft. Pass on yeah, right. All right, so tell us he was Levinas first big lie. Well according to his interview with Rolling Stone magazine, he was born in Nineteen, thirty as Anton Zander Levay and his parents were Joseph and Augusta Lavar. So lying starts at moment zero with his birth actually. Howard Stanton Levy. Gertrude Levy. People Argon join a cult. Leader guy is some dude named fuck and how we. For Yourself, I'll join any I want thank you. Also is grandma is not a magical Romani person from Transylvania taught him ancient witchcraft, also just for the record that rolling stone article is amazing and a Houston a lot. It's written by Lawrence Right and right could obviously tell that levine was lying about almost every single thing he ever says. A whole bunch of debunking happened in the final copy of article. V was furious when it came out. Pretty much. The entire article goes back and forth between a paragraph about. Telling a ridiculous lie, and then a paragraph explaining exactly how easy it was to check that lie. I Two, biggest sources were that article and a nine page fact sheet released by Levinas daughter Zina right after he died that listed twenty-six giant lies along with twenty six. What actually happens segments? Not a great sign when your kid works harder on your slopes page than they do on your eulogy. What happened, so Levy family moved to San, Francisco when how he was a baby, and that's where he grew up his biggest interest as a kid was music, and he focused especially on nightmare, themed instruments like the pipe organ and the client. Also learned the oboe, and according to his authorized biography written binz girlfriend. At, age, fifteen, he was the second. For the San Francisco Ballet Orchestra. which is an orchestra that never existed and. Second Oh he was Michigan Man of the year. I'm sorry who lies to make themselves second oboe. Girlfriend lives in Canada. You never met her, but she has feet for hands it's. Lies about brags about oboe at all it's. Club his I would oppose a mad I the added. To the campus of Oberlin and I, always getting so much and mouth, and Pussy and whatever. During that interview. Rolling stone that he had a subjective childhood, one of the exact words pretentious asshole according to. During his. non-objective childhood. Fuck. That means much like many Satanists. If he was bullied when asked about the details, you just mentioned that his face was kind of weird looking like a gap to. It's weird face and that's when Lawrence Right. The journalists started flipping through vase biography and said Okay I. Just thought you might mention something about this part right here. Does. He had a tail. The what's. Up. Yeah I. Did I had it removed when I was either thirteen or fourteen. Very painful circumstance. So let me just say there are some things you chase that you're not meant. I had the tail removed right after my kids went into remission. Before the oboe. Propagated actually remove it. They just docked it so that he had to go through the rest of his life with those little cocker Spaniel wagging penis. Horrible it's like trying to wag it, but there's nothing. Button the action. According to. Attended High School until he was sixteen, and then dropped out to join the Clyde, beatty circus and also flee from the law. He started as a roused about at the circus, which is just the guy who does whatever the Carnival Guy in charge tells you to do, and that means at some point. You're going to tell you to be a cage boy for the meth head. Tiger guy that's inevitable. So pretty soon. Levay was handling eight Nubian lions, and or Bengal Tigers in a cage all at once, and this is when he really learned about magic. If he got knocked down, was was about to get mauled by twelve giant cats. You'd send out gamma rays to penetrate their brains This was his only use of gamma rays that he ever. Overuse. I'm sure I'm not the first person point the south. There's a tiger slash crazy liar. Criminal Correlation here that science needs to. Yes, right also speaking of science to explore things further. It's entirely possible that the world was was home to a satanic tiger. Hulk and we need his story. Remember just going to gloss over the fled the law for reasons just like a minute ago, he was second. Like. How did he fall so far from gratis? was a magical lion wrangler for awhile, but then he realized that his Murray Creepy fucking childhood collide the interest. Paid off perfectly and he became the circus. Calliope. That's real word. and. That's when he first became cynical about religion. You notice that the same men who were going to the X. rated shows on Saturday night would also attend the religious tent revival meetings on Sunday morning, when he eventually wrote the Satanic Bible, he mentioned this moral double standard origin of his quest to defy Christianity. And just one of their detail on that. There's absolutely no evidence that ever worked at a circus or carnival in any. But what he did have a Joe Joe in Japan. Is Very confused about how making up. Stories works like like I. Get the Lion, Taming. Bad Ass, but like the detail of later getting promoted to call lion player that seems like a step of the wrong. Well here's how you can tell nobody who actually worked for a circus brags about. So? I hope we get to end of this story and he's and he's a one man band. Elbow, so he's playing. The gohi-bi the drums. Oboe like Bob Dylan Harmonic. It's so. Career in the circus collided business and probably being serial killer. Because that's what fucking collide P players. After Lewis started working as an organist in bars and nightclubs, and this included a regular gig as part of a burlesque show in Los Angeles at the Mayan Theater while he was working there, he had an affair with Marilyn Monroe don't come when she was dancer Mayan before getting famous. Don't do. Somebody should've pointed out into Levin. Biography going to intersect with someone. Maybe don't choose one of the most famous and well documented women and all of modern. Man also just one other little detail on that. There's absolutely no chance. He had an affair with Marilyn Monroe. You know manager of the Mayans said she was never a dancer there and also pointed out that they never used the theater as a burlesque house also just fucking. To I took the trouble to like, look up his picture at this point, and he looks like fucking Danny trae oh, after seven months in chemotherapy. And also has there ever been more shadow side? The cameras portraits taken of one person we get. Sluki dude down. What Allen more have a contest. Go Kit Easy Howie. Right so long time in the music business and his time having an affair with the biggest sex symbol in American history. So probably just more serial killing clown music. To San Francisco and met his future wife, Carol Lansing got married in Nineteen fifty one when she was. Fifteen years old, wow! That's good. And Carol gave birth to their daughter Carla a year later. This is win. Anton got a job with the SAN. Francisco Police Department as a photographer and also psychic investigator. Means he would use magic powers his speak with murder victims and helped the homicide detectives. or Eat. Spoke directly with the murder victims that he murdered while playing the client. Or, maybe he was claiming he was an investigator of psychics. It's not clear. I'm sure all of those interpretations are equally. Wrecked speaking of which just one other little detail on that there are absolutely no records at the San Francisco Police. Department of hiring a psychic investigator named Anton Levay or how he levy. Also know investigators of psychics. To be there for that interview though. So anyway I can talk to the dead people or for the dead people also I can read the minds of bad guys if you like I'm I'm not picky. UK Great Well Mr Levy. Lavallee. No, no, it is not We've got your resume. Of you know that's real parchment. Great. We'll let you know if we need your help. Anton are Yarmuth Dan. You all set honey. Oh, this is be your daughter. No, that's my wife Yikes. Right. Seasons Christ. So segue out of that during. Nineteen sixties. levay became a local celebrity in San Francisco as a musician, paranormal, expert and professional. Proto hipster, obnoxious guy especially noticeable was when he walked around town with his pet, lack leopard named Zoltan. Eventually, Zoltan got run over by a car. Because you know, it's a leopard walking around a major city sure. avai replaced Zoltan with a lion named Garay okay. What city quickly made a law? Pretty sure just for him, that said okay, no having lions and tigers, or up no also not leopards as a house pet, regardless of gamma, rays, or anything else like that and just you can't have them, so who Garay got sent to. I, Experience when I say, there's nothing better than a city ordinance that is very clearly just directed at you. I, think all of black. America would beg to differ. Can't. Yeah, this is when avai started using his local fame to build the early stages of a cult. It started with his Friday night lectures on dark rituals and the occult. It became pretty popular, and he opened them up to the public, charging two dollars a person to hear him teach about stuff like love, potions and monkey glands or magical cannibalism on Cannibal night, actually got a human thigh from a doctor friend unserved it to the guests magical cannibalism. All cannibalism is magical if you share it with the right person. saw. WHIZ can we wanted this back a little bit heat? This is every doctor have a human thigh just laying around to share. This is I have more questions than I have answers. Most of them have at least. Right. That's a great question. Number they boneless skinless dies or. A lot of questions. It wasn't clear. He served some human. Though so he's lecture. Events went really well, and of course taxation is theft, so lavar decided to start a religion. And it all became official on April thirtieth nineteen, sixty six. Also, known as Saint while purchase night oh. What's his celebration of the German? Of Protection against witchcraft, rabies and on. The twenty first anniversary of Hitler. That day okay. Apparently, those are both very important to Anton levay. So that night he ritualistically shaved his head, explaining how this was the tradition of ancient executioners from the devil worshipping Yazidi tribe, and he declared the Church of Satan to be open for business. You also proclaimed that nineteen, sixty six was now called year one in the age of Satan, or no Satana one. Oh I see. That makes everything you did before that day. BE S right. This good. I will go ahead and say it. Though of all the ways that religions of us to try to hide male pattern baldness, his might be the least. I wonder how the Fuck you shave your head ritualistically like we. Use A. Razor and like sage sentence so. You. Very secular way to do that also Tom that some people do. And one other detail on all that. Pretty much that whole thing was made up after the fact. In the summer of sixty six, well after the first night of Ano- say Thomas a newspaper wrote an article about Levy that called Him High Priest of the devils church, and that's when he clearly made up a story using the things in his head at that very moment, which were rabies, cough and Hitler. Family that he actually shaved his head after losing a bet. Just made up the ancient executioner thing as a cover. there's actually a bit more to the story of as very intentional physical appearance overhaul at this point, and this is one of my favorite details. It's very likely that he stole his entire Demon look from a TV show called the wild wild west. All. On March twenty fifth of Nineteen, sixty six, they had an episode featuring a satanic cult leader played by Don rickles. The character Anton. For himself on month later. I mean Jeff Sessions Graduated College, and started his career and created look a year after the Keebler Elf was created, so there are no coincidences. Coincidences all right well, I, think it's pretty obvious that Anton Levay is about to win his way into Frank Sinatra's heart. I believe we're doing this. Don't worry. Don't worry. You'll be an adventure. Greetings, mortals well Gordon to the Church of Satan new school. Right right cool, so you must be Mr Levy. It's it's. Not No. It's not no, it's not anyway. This is the fountain of Blood South from it and live forever move. Hey, Howie What should I do with all these cool eight bottles? Recycling I'm kind of in the middle of the thing these. Right. Come to the charge should say on really sorry. Sorry, sorry, sorry super. Beta delivery Sorry boss wouldn't let me quote. Mash it up, so it looks like blood and stuff. He's a Doug June. Oh, okay, well, then you just put it in the back, then cool. Hey Mister I gotta say is Church seems to be. Well, if I'm being honest kind of phony, yeah, can you give us any reason to stay? Away less rape e than all the other churches so. Something you guys want some czar. Don't cords are? And we're back when we left off Anton. levay, new several women who didn't care about labels what happens? All right so with the Church of Satan in full swing levay started writing books about his belief system starting with the Satanic Bible. And the belief system is called. Atheism end of system. That doesn't make called happn very well, so he added a bunch of magic and a bunch of thinly-veiled eugenics to really make it pop. His major influences according to him included p.t Barnum Rasputin. I N- ran. Lemay unabashedly described his version of Satanism as quote I in Rand's philosophy with ceremony and ritual. Austin. Religion great that makes sense I mean. The Republicans ritually gut every social program. The marketing for this thing must have been fucking amazing right like. You're on your own now. Fifty percent more incense. and. Let me get a little more incensed. That's about right, and not surprisingly levies target demographic was over privileged whiny white men. Oh No, where will he find some? Found him. And, of course, the call also had the women that those over privilege whiny white men would pressure into being topless during the rituals because female nipples are magical and. According to the FBI, the average satanist is a white male in his twenty s found satanism in his late teens just like the average on Tuesday. Actually Oh, Keith. I just feel like it's unfair to compare the two groups. One is a literal vampiric cult that worships the cause of all evil, and the others are just satanists. Ask. Equally rooted in fact so. High. So basic tenets of Levin Satanism are found at the beginning of the Satanic Bible. One major part is called the nine satanic statements, and another is called eleven satanic rules of the Earth. and. Some of them are actually pretty good ideas, and and a bunch of stupid ideas are still delightfully entertaining, because Anton a clearly wrote a mall being mad at a very specific annoying friend. Here's your. Some of the highlights starting with statement one. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence, and that's where lots people stopped reading and joined regnier. Number two and three. They basically just say science is better than being stupid, so that's good. He's a naturalist satanist. Cool and here's statement number four Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates. fucking Dave. Dave number four read it Dave. Better next up statement number five Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek, and I just wanted to. Spite is part of the religion. Number six was yawn at Dave some more for talking too much seriously number seven eight, basically a plug for Social Darwinism. You know do whatever you want. And the market solution is perfect for rich white people, so rate and finally statement number nine. Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had. He's kept it in business all these years, which is pretty solid Yeah, Steve. MNUCHIN is common for that spot, right? At this point. And that brings us to the eleven satanic rules of the Earth. And again, it's a lot of Dave stuff the first to rule czar, don't give opinions unless you're asked and stop whining. Little number three is. Seriously stopped showing my house. Is a follow up to that. It says if a guest in your home and noise you treat him cruelly and without mercy. You can only do that if he goes asleep I when you're all drinking? Next up. We have rule number five, which may or may not involve Dave, but it's super important either way. Don't make sexual advances unless you get the mating signal. Honestly I think. Switching to a spotlight Batman system might be for the best that this administration can just. Make that official. It was just no. He's still going to be looking at a giant h clouds going. So put eager sign up sideways. well either way solid rule I would have liked to see the word consent in there, but this is like nineteen sixty six closest. You're going to get to that so something good in there anyway moving onto rule number six don't steal rule number. Seven magic is real. If it works so, don't question your cult leader number eight shut up. Warm little children yeah, unless she's fifteen and you want to impregnate her. Yeah, yeah! Yeah sure. Number and don't kill animals unless they attack you or for food. Okay, that's most of the animal killing. Dressing what? Doing, YEEZUS! And Rule number eleven when walking in open territory. Bother no one if someone bothers you. Ask Him to stop if he does not stop. Destroy them. Quickly now we call that standing your ground. Christian. Yeah so that's LE`veon's Satan is. Those the tenants. She's I'm surprised that one of the rules wasn't I was in the circus? Dave so. In the late sixties and early seventies, the church got a pretty big following. Levin put together some publicity stunts, including a satanic baptism of his daughter and got plenty of news coverage is that? Do you just drier out I, don't. Into A ballpit of those. Things Wrinkled do not eat honey honey. Do not eat it, says it. Just told her first. So they got a bunch of attention, and they set up grotto's all over the country, even got Surata his followers including Sammy Davis Junior and Jayne Mansfield. May Actually had an affair with Mansfield. No, he didn't. Right after she died in a car crash, coincidentally, which he said was the result of a curse that he put on her boyfriend. Well they did a lot of marketing. They also had a two for one curse night and a flippy Air Satan outside the headquarters. People in. Horns that are flap and that'd be great. One other big event for the Church of Satan during its early years was the big success of Roman Polanski, horror film Rosemary's baby in nine, hundred and sixty eight, which was about a satanic cult, and Louvain made a big deal about being the technical advisor and playing the credited role of the devil in that movie, but You. Know he's. He's obviously lying snug. Verifiable an obvious also. Just a heads up. You probably don't want me as a celebrity. And maybe I just don't. Are Fighting like this. They have so much in common. Honestly all the Polanski's experiences with satanic cult leaders. This was going to be among the most. Mass one best one. yeah, so the church kept growing and by Nineteen seventy-two. They had hundreds of thousands of members. Or possibly a mailing list of about three hundred people, and we have many of those being as personal friends who were getting pamphlets. Somewhere in that range that. Either way this is when they started having a schism. Bunch of the followers thought atheism. Was Kinda fucking boring? And they wanted to actually worship, the real demon name, Satan and by nineteen seventy five several groups had split off to start their own brand, and just by coincidence levay happened to change the rules that year and announced okay. You can't learn about the high. Level Atheist Satan magic unless you donate real estate or expensive. And Hold on, let me just check the spells real quick. Yet money works to if it's a lot, that's. The also disbanded all the grotto's. Spite, because everyone was doing the atheists Satan worship songs off fast rated, and that's when levesque. Michael, Aquino started a theistic splinter group called the Temple of set, which was it was the same thing as the Church of Satan, but you weren't allowed to be ironic about. Nails theses televised Dora says, but for Real Z's though. So. The end of Nineteen Seventy Five Churches Satan pretty much only existed on paper, but the idea of satanism kept going strong and during the eighties. Entire country got whipped up into a moral panic about satanic ritual abuse known as the Satanic Panic. What was actually happening was a bunch of nerdy white guys combining gothic. Down? At all the Christian people decided that everyone they didn't like was secretly fucking little kids eating I'm under a Chucky Jones and this actually brought levay back into the spotlight. He started doing big interviews again got more celebrities on board and reinstated the grotto system. Presumably with people who heard on like Phil Donahue and Maury Povich. That pedophile Cannibal Magic was back in style and they got excited about. Used to be a Catholic, but what I like about satanism is the honesty. He's just to be clear. They successfully rebranded after being conflicted with imaginary ritualistic. Religion is awesome. That's good. So the whole satanic panic thing, it sounds like stupid, but it was actually super, horrible and tragic. It was stupid to. Silly, stupid, horrible and Geriatric as well. It wasn't just crazy Christian people throwing around ridiculous gossip in a panic they were going to the police and accusing people of sexually abusing kids with nothing, but magical evidence to back it up, and it turns out. The police are mostly crazy, Christian people in a panic, so a bunch of innocent people went to jail for bunch of years. Even the FBI was taken it seriously at one point. Yes, the I heard about a satanic murder plot against Ted Kennedy, so they interviewed Levay Open. He could like teach him dark magic counter spell. Murder. which I really fucking Hopi she's. IRA when I used to think adults were in charge of important stuff. When they told us we didn't need masks. Adults were never in charge of that though. Yeah they were though so Levin kept going with group of thousands. Dozens or whatever it was, but most of the national attention eventually dried up again, and despite the millions or dozens of dollars he made. On money from his parents and public assistance on the end of his life. died on Halloween of nineteen ninety-seven. Except, that's actually allied to. What all is. He just wanted to be spooky somehow. Date now away in got illegally snuck onto his death certificate. We actually I'd. That's an awkward deathbed request though right. Vanden Tanta my closest confidante. Do me this favor in my final hours. Leash. Change, my death certificate shows it. It says I tied. On Halloween. Absolute. Why? Oh It'd be Shoe I. I'm sorry, Super Spooky. Everybody'll be like. You Hear Anti. died on Halloween. How Satan E and other people like? That's so spooky. Will they? Though you think? We. Hurry Mr Levy he got it. Yeah, it's it's Lemay. No, it's not it's not. A, Four, we wrap it up. I just have a couple more details about Anton. levay from that rolling stone article they did some of the interview at La's house known as the Black House. because. He painted black. House was actually owned by Mary Ellen pleasant. The nineteenth century, real estate, mogul, land, therapist, abolitionist, and owner of famous mansion brothel. Except none of that were they got my parents. It's not even close to a mansion. Mary unpleasant did not have. That it checks out. Was the house even painted. I. Don't want you night. Hold on a second. Shaded like all his face shots. To facts. and. Here's the description of Anton live as living room from the article quote beside. The couch was an antique examination table with Stirrup side. Next to the exam table was chair stacked full with La's various black hats God just. It did wartime above that was a framed sign. It said my worst enemies are those who presumed me to be harmless. It cannot imagine how much I resent end disdain them or just how great a threat would face if I could get at them some day with the help of time space and circumstance I will be able to humiliate them properly, not in a manner they would enjoy playing a style calculated up to make them wish they had never been. Definitely someone's twitter bio. Guaranteed I just WANNA say. It's nice that Noah decided to podcast. Good Olympic cult. One last thing Anton L- Avai. Pretty fucking cool. He is a pioneer of Fuck Rodney eyles. We leave. That's right, but he was a big fan of mannequins, and he had them all over the house. In terrifying little scenes, he had like a drunk at a bar with like a pool of urine under. Weird stuff and he spent years tinkering with android prototypes, and predicting that the science of robotics would be advanced enough to create an AI fuck doll. He called this forbidden industry, and described it as quote, polite, sophisticated and technologically feasible slavery poon nuts like. In a good way, it's nice that he decided to podcast. I wouldn't said last thing and. Most of his mannequins had the heads sawed off and replaced with latex impressions of his friends face. So, so at some point. Journalists Rolling Stone was like. All right man I gotta ask. You fucking those dolls? Which Point Lavar. Started to Yell Action Figures Man. Long claws and responded. I tried to. My Greatest Heston, but just as I was entering her, the damn room started shaking. Earthquake hit I figured it was God's way of trying to tell me something. So I ceased my activities, and then he added. Okay when I said God just now just figure. You, and if you had to summarize what you learned in one, sentence, he, what would it be? And on the Vei was born. And died. Alright! Are you ready for the quiz? Quiz all right. When fifteen year old aspiring Satanists Noah. Got His hands on a copy of the Satanic Bible by the Antonova hard to do, and you live in a small town, and all the bookstores are Christian bookstores, and he read the trait bullshit that Levine was passing office. Tannock statements. It would remain the most disappointing moment in his life until a. The Star Wars prequels be. He realized that paying the pizza delivery guy was sex with just a vehicle to move porn along. He saw how quickly the majority of Americans got behind the idea of a preemptive war or d. he read the eleven satanic rules that came immediately after. Wow, that's I. Mean I feel like they? All kind of tied until e twenty twenty there. You go hack correct. A long series of disappointment since alright heath of all of Anton Levinas lies, which was the least impressive? All of his lies. Be Seriously, even if everything he said was true. Not even the mannequins well fuck them see. He got rejected by a mannequin. Jesus Movies Manneken that guy gets to fuck the. True. Well he was an act of God not really God. It wasn't he didn't get. Reject I wouldn't say reject. But a all of his lies I believe. That's that's pretty true. It's inherently true. It's weird when it's a all of the below, but yeah. I think. What we learned from the combination of levay end allaster cruelly stories. Hey, someone says they can do magic. They're trying to fuck you. The Bible sucks so hard. Crazy pedophile constantly make better moral codes than it she's. got. No matter how funky and goats bloody your cult starts out at always ends with infighting over parking spaces. All of the above. Wow, well, I mean A. Yots, try to do a lot of magic for ceases to that tracks. But, so did the other ones. It's gotta be d all the above right. Yes Oh. All right I know you're a fan of music heat. So what's the most famously starts in club, music? Seriously even. Collide inspired musical. Hell Dali. Abyss, Saigon See. Abba Don Giovanni. Oh Hem. Be Big. Daddy Don Modine's truck de though Lobato Weymouth. Is, incorrect I'm sorry was Abba Don Giovanni. Very close considering that all right you stumped in that means this week's winner is see Sel some well. Let's get a Noah Essay next week. When you say all right if you insist all right well for Tom Noah and he I'm alive Bosnian. Thank you for hanging out with us today. We'll be back next week and by then no one will be an expert on something else to now then I'll be in a never ending cycle of changing my son's diaper normal stock up on a cheerful a hats secial. Really Cook a leg if you ask him, Tom will eat C. sales lagging. One hundred percent finish that. To help, keep the show going. You can make a purpose. 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THE GHOST WITH NO MOUTH & YOUR POLTERGEIST TALES!!!

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THE GHOST WITH NO MOUTH & YOUR POLTERGEIST TALES!!!

"From a girl. Talk about goals with governors I us dear brethren. I hope you're all well Was it the famous ancient philosopher Sheryl Crow. WHO said a change? I I think a change would do you good. I think it was long story short. I sought some advice from podcasting professionals and they review the show. The comax me with some ideas. I may have mentioned this last week and I mentioned it also on the Patriot. PODCAST book the basically said that the way I present the stories. He's very good Blah Blah Blah. However when I go off on tangents which I tend to do as you know sometimes it can be hard to decipher where the story ends? And where I I little snippety. Bits come in so as was preceded last weekend preceded. That's not the right word as talked about last weekend. This episode is a change change in format and this is how it will be going forward so we are going to have slight music in the background of the stories which will then stop when I interject with my alleged witticisms. 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We need to talk about ghosts and thank you ever so all of our patrons literally keep the show alive now we need to move on and because it is a changed episode. We moving forward with this new format ain't nothing we can do about it so before we go into the list stories which makes is the lifeblood of the show basically We have got a new segment of the show. Yes we have on. Its Jingle a yes we can we it with a funky jingle in the background langer. I will read your weird news story from this week. The proved we live in a very strange and spooky world of first up. We have the forty one year. Old Man from Hampshire who'd be Maryland sheep in the new forest and an called way. Yes indeed. I didn't time time now. The data come in that book it just worked so anyway it all started when she was found killed. And sprayed with occult symbols on the twenty th of November while several cows were wounded in the Woodland Woodland Hampshire than an early January. Police discovered an you. E W e you in Cotonou which stopped to death with a cross made of Hay and a broken oh can pitch for placed next to it then a few weeks later police investigated three more sheep deaths in the area. Also the parent links to the occult spookier. Well no not really you balance. You're not a wizard. You're not GANDALF. The grey you're not Anton Levay that rhymed united of those things you just a sad man who abuses animals in forrest I hope you get shot. And Jeb Bush was the statement that made me laugh. And it's from the Spokesman of the new forest who said like many rural areas. We have a historical association with witchcraft. So that draws some people in some of the local shops trade on that but normally it's all about the fairies he eh baby all about the fairies raced anyway that brings us to the end of the first of many we can we. It would and what about the partake in some amazing listeners. Stories you remember last week when we are back on I was written out I read out two of the three stories provided to me by Trish. Who is the mother of a colleague of mine and I'm going to read out story three right now? He'll live while it's not like I. Can you downloaded this story is called a very strange range thing. If you believe in the afterlife and spirits then you will understand that same phenomenon is taken to be a sign of either. The presence of a spirit ord one of his spirit trying to communicate moments. Wells were illness when I found out that she had been diagnosed with vascular dementia some ten years earlier that had looked after then and and then he got sick a minor stroke that he would recover from but he needed a lot of help. So WanNa wrote a basis me and my sister would take turns to help out but especially in putting Monta bad and getting off of a morning. God bless you. I remember the start of the significant changes. Women had a bad day and it started to show signs of aggression aggression which was a worsening of her condition. It was my tend to put it to bed too as part of the established routine. I would go up in advance and Foley sheets back and put a step for getting thing into bed in place and turn on the bedside lamp this one night about a week before her death I was getting the bedroom ready. I joined the cat and switched on the lamp and it was just folding back. The bed sheets when Arava log drop of water fell onto the back of my hand. I can almost hear the PLOP it made. It was so big I remember it being visible just sitting there perfectly formed big. I was both stunned and confused. And remember thinking what the dot dot dot. I looked up but the ceiling is the relief. That's all we need a leak right above MOMS pillow. I can't do anything about it now. I look back at my hand with the world is still sat there but I thought nothing Govett on white my hand on my jeans I went downstairs to collect moment and said to my husband. Will you go into the loft in the morning. I think there's a leak directly above mom's ahead the next day we got the loudest out to go into the loft. I my even looked at the bedroom. Ceiling it's not wet. He said a no sign of anything from yeah yeah so open to the lofty went up my insistence. I remember shouts and Gupta Him with directions to where mom would be. It's just driza bone up here. He said there's the league he shouted down. I was confused. No leak but with a big drop of water landing on me from the ceiling. How can not be possible? cavs GONNA theory we on that and it's to do with water and poltergeist but we'll come back to that by the end of the week moment being admitted to hospital it was Friday. The twenty ninth November two thousand thirteen a team but a condition deteriorated so much that by Sunday the first of December she was semi conscious and not responsive Popley out then. The strangest thing happened. I remember the following week getting up during the Patio curtains and the living room and seeing the outline of the number four written on the patio glass a large greasy mark walk very visible and written on the inside of the patio glass. I remember thinking to myself. Who's done that? WHO's been putting their greasy fingers on the glass us when my husband came into the living room we both just stared at it puzzled? Only two of us live in the house. So how have the governor who was dawning on. Why the number four uh-huh so many questions? The fact that the four had been made on the inside of the gloss baffled us three days later mom passed away in hospital on December. The fourth two thousand thirty Now in all Trish Bleed always tinged with sadness. These stories aren't they. I mean as is going to be the case. When he talked about dying relatives book a Wonderful Story? And I will say this. And I'll say no more I will say quite a bit. which is how a podcast works? Really pools of water mysteriously appearing are common common frequent occurrence in politics cases. You will hear about them if you read about the Enfield Poltergeist. You've read about Amazon and things like that. There's often pools of water just appeared and Drops just applauding as we found out that means just appearing materializing amid AH AH porting out of nowhere yeah. Two drops of water do have some weird significance with spooky paranormal stuff. So the copy that but the number four is well. Let's served interested in it. Especially God bless her that she then passed away on the fourth. So what are bloody amazing story. Thank you so much Trish and I think I have emailed you to say I. Police are more in. Because you're right such spooky story. I think we can all agree anyway. She we have another. This one comes in from the lovely Cleo Robinson who centre center stories and before and it's called Mike Collection of ghosts. The stories are never ending recently. My House has been quiet and any paranormal activity. Eh has significantly subsided but at work. It's a different story. My whack a popular MBA has always been creepy when it's quiet but even even on busy nights when the atmosphere is amazing. There's a tinge of something called. were no GAL staff and almost all of us have agreed that the feeling of being watched haunts the back. DOC groups there has been many events of the top turning on and off by themselves and does slamming. Well as you know we've had the top ten off and on upstairs by itself but Bekker's convinced it's pressure whatever. I'm we all seem to be able to ignore these events due to their frequency but things have gotten worse. I did my first shift alone a few weeks ago in the morning it was a bright day and nothing seemed to be out of place or going wrong in the back. I sell to do some paperwork. Whilst customers mooched around the shop to look at our collection in brackets we sell alcohol as a bar and sell it off. The shelves to only one man was left when I decided to clean the bathroom through I turned around and so what I thought was a man. Walk into the back in brackets. I assume to use the LOO. I stood looking at the door waiting for him to leave before before I cleaned after awhile past the man didn't leave and I noticed the other man had left from the front of the shop. That's when a hit me that the toilet it was empty if the show was not the mound from the front of the store because no one left the toilet and I never saw him leave. A my attention. Didn't move from the door. I ran around the back trying to find a person somewhere but it was empty. So many walk into the back and then disappeared. The back door couldn't have been used as it was locked. Act Easy to say my for Solo shift was chilling. I've mentioned this to colleagues I feel closest to one of the persons experienced this to to at least are bars attracting a wide range of people law good I like that yes spirits and the dead and devils get out of there the old the young young and the deceased although it's scary to think that the spirit in our stock aren't the only ones around the shock I'm still happy wagging they're and I'm sure more stories will be on the way. Thanks thanks CLEO. No thank you CLEO. Please make sure you send your wines and spirits of both kinds onto the show. What an amazing story? I do like the idea. There's a really illegal actually remember to read it or where a head but it was off like Gal who goes into a police station and the policeman sees sees the scale sat down and shoe. She's waiting for someone to come out. Egos back to comes out. And she disappeared. Checks the cameras and she never came in in the first place bump empire comparison of stories like that. Don't forget guys if you've got a story that you want me to read out. Send it on to contact at talk about ghosts dot com. That's contact at talk about ghosts dot com while while we well as much as things change as much as they say the same. That's not to say the more things change the more they stay the same. So let's have a mid points hurrah okay points. I'm guys I'm going to do rogue thank you listen to this can you that. What's that you may ask? We'll I'll tell you right now. It is of course the Sunday it is Chinese. And he's New Year and we unlivable have the oldest European Chinese community and we live in Chinatown or just on the outskirts of Chinatown. And so that means you here they say look out of my Liverpool apartment. Window is a massive Orange Dragon and about maybe a thousand people go past the flats with drums donnas and all that sort of stuff. Let's have a listen. Maybe thinking let me show. You may be thinking. Why aren't you out there enjoying that? We've been out this firm on. Yes we have out some. We've both some SUNAI and oriental delicacies. We've had a bit of a bowl. We got some fortune cookies minded. You need to expand your business. Is that racist. Not sure ought to check accents. And Becker said you'll younger heart. which is surprising because like she's only like thirty so yeah so happy Chinese New Year? I don't the actual word for it and I'm not gonNA tempted because that would definitely be racist but yes happy Chinese New Year one and all the things have been taken place in our lives. Well I'm satisfied Satay with one I No actually when I do have both is but one I has an ulcer in the eye. How horrible does that sound? I'll tell you how horrible bloody awful so I do. Have A corneal ulcer. It's cut me off work for Bekker's of being photo phobic which I learned in hospital mean sensitive to light yes so I've gotten a patch on as we speak which made me look like a weird pirates hovering out of the window. Looking giants are in Dragon. And no I've not been taken drugs some so we're not as being all changed this week for the show. This is the format going forward. Now what you've had this fall so I like it seems a little bit more professional took on advice from professional podcasters. I also you'll have heard if you're found of many paranormal podcasts. You'll have had I've now I'm supplying pieces. Some small pieces of music for the amazing talented go story guys. You know the Brennan Iranian The Canadian podcast. Great guys. Great guys great guys but I'm now supplying the music Semitic Because the great and I really. I'm a big fan of there so it's kind of like a bit of a fan boy thing for me to do as well to be doing that. But if you're not already onto the ghost thirty guys which I'm sure you are then going. Give them listen. Make sure you do because of wonderful so yeah all change. Let me know what you think getting such as always contact at the ghost. uh-huh story guys dumps because you'll get them contact at talk about ghosts dot com. That's email address. You need if you want to send a story on if you WANNA say hello if you WanNa give me most suggestions by all means do contact at talk about ghosts dot com and other guy if you were to become a wonderful patron go to Patriot dot com forward slash. We need need to talk about ghosts. Yes so that's basically all it's happened this week Oh we also yesterday because I said I need to get out the house because of being cut moved of not being looking at any light so yesterday because I've got to go back to work Monday regardless so We decided added that. We'd scale a mountain as you do so we went to a place called mobile phone in north Wales declined to the top of it climbed it's more a very very steep incline. So we walked to the top of this mountain. I mean we went with a couple that were friendly with and yeah and these Regular mountaineering types and the guy. John is very lovely guy and he says he kept saying like see the top there. That's that's the top now and we get to the top and the being no the peak about about like an hour off a mile away half a mile off and I was like. Oh what are you doing. And because of that peak peak and after about four and honest to God I could've threw off off except he's bigger than me. I'm GONNA throw me off instead but yet we got to the top of it was like when you get to. This is going to feel like you've achieved something you're GONNA fit your endorphins released in your brain and I. It didn't just hope to post go very cold and nearly cried. A needless to say coffee. Malek's this morning so yeah that's a that's a week in the life of a podcast ESTA. Yes but I do hope you all wonderful them well and let me know if you're not and God knows where I'll do about it but I'll at least empathize. Anyway she we get back to some more amazing Englishness admitted stories. I think we showed because that's the point of the Shah. Oh Okay let's do this Okay so that was the midpoint. Yes indeed and we're GONNA go back to more listeners. Stories yes we. We are coup spooky music. Our next story comes in from the new Patriot. Gabrielle Monteverdi on it's cold haunted tales from the eighties. Taylor Hi Kevin. Hi Look the show so much thank you. I listen every week with my oldest kid Lil who's fourteen however my youngest who is twelve Josie refuses to have the podcast on in the car. Because she's completely terrified. You'll actually recall a couple of weeks ago. Gave them a shoutout to say age. OC Don't be scared. Ed but the spookiest noise ever made sorry about that Josie. Anyway I continue thoughts. I would send a long story to which you may enjoy. I grew up on the North Shaw of Boston in a typical New England Cape Style home which was purchased by my parents when it was newly built when my much older brother and sister moved out of the House. I was fortunate enough to have two large upstairs rooms to myself while for my bedroom amount for a TV slash studying area. As much as I loved having lots of room all to myself during the day at night I hate to be alone upstairs and always slept with the lights on. I sleep with the lights on all the time. If I'm alone don't worry about it. I can recall many nights when I would wake up terrified late at night insisting to my parents that there were ghosts upstairs. They always laugh me off and insisted that my upset was just loneliness now that my siblings often out of the house. The Dad's mother passed away was when I vividly recall strange occurrences starting to happen fairly frequently. One night my father and and I were in the kitchen making a late night. Supper and chatting on one side of the kitchen was the stove and on the opposite side the sink. My father was on the sink side of the kitchen slicing up some lemons to put into our ice tea. I was at the stove keeping an eye on the eggs. My Dad came over to give me a hand at the stove and after a moment asked me to go back over to the counter by the missing to get the lemon when I tend around to get the lemon it was gone. There was nothing on the cutting board. Even though he had just finished slice and gets up I was immediately staw old and then more shocked to see the slices of lemon scattered on the kitchen table at the back of the kitchen. I couldn't move dad. I couldn't say anything else. I just just pointed to the table low. What happened? My Dad stopped and just looked at me. I started laughing nervously. Do you think it was Nana. My dot smiled and told only the he'd recently noticed some small things going missing like his glasses case which he always placed in a drawer in the kitchen when he came home from work and had later found out. It's in the open as though it had been playfully hidden and then returned in the summer of Nineteen eighty-eight. I had a friend over and we were listening to inaccessible. Kick which is is an amazing album. Stop listening to this. Go listen to in excess kick. It's blow degraded anyway. I digress on cassette on my stereo. We were in the TV room room and my stereo was in the bedroom. We listen to the whole album and the tape stopped. We just kept shouting after about ten minutes later we heard music coming from my room. The tape tape it somehow rewound and started playing again. We bolted downstairs almost tripping down the staircase this was just completely baffling. The Stereo was very old and did not have any order rewind feature. I was going to say. Actually we just sat downstairs for little bit just catching our breath and wondering what could have possibly caused. That's a happen. We stayed downstairs until a tape played all the way through and then we cautiously made our way back upstairs. This time the tape. It just stopped and did not come on again we instead the machine for several minutes. Then I hit Jack and we grab the tape. We switch tape to ten thousand maniacs to see if the same thing might happen this time. The tape just stopped and did not replay. If felt as though now I was just making yourself known in brackets. And Hey who doesn't love a little extra dose of in excess good Nanna in the next few weeks. I play the same inaccessible many times but it never started by itself again now. That is weird. I must admit I did think was an in order to rewind feature because I used to have stereo as many people my age did and did get to the end of the tape. It would then rewind and play the follow inside but if it didn't have the feature you know it could have only been some ghostly hand sale thin car won't listen to truer strived belonged can. It was a gummy ghost. I grant you yeah thank you. What an amazing story? And it's not the last because she continues yes one more story for today. This one is more paranormal than ghostly. But I thought you would appreciate it in the summer of two thousand nine. I was in my bedroom alone listening to the radio. It was about ten o'clock at night. My parents were already asleep so the house. This was very quiet. I was startled to hear the phone in the kitchen ringing. I was very surprised by a call so late at night. I did not want the call to wake my mom and dad. I got up quickly and went downstairs for just a few seconds as I was running down the stairs I can literally see myself three die mentally in a way I can only describe scribes out of my body to this day. I can vividly see each detail of this view of myself the expression on my face. My hair flying in the nightgown I I was wearing flowing as I moved. It was as though I was looking at myself from the bottom of the stairs. The second I hit the bottom step with my feet it was over i. I was moving toward the phone in the kitchen. And by the time I picked it up there was no one there. I was totally shaken by what happened but somehow it felt as though for a moment I tapped into a sick sense. I've never again had a repeat of this experience. Thank you so much. I hope you enjoy these little vignettes. I really hope you BECCA can make your way here to visit Massachusetts pseudo. Why that would be amazing? Yes I lived and worked in Salem Massachusetts for many years and as I'm sure you know Salem is home. I'm to the notorious witch trials and also the birthplace of Nathaniel Hawthorne. I do know that indeed and I'd love to come over and I would guaranteed plot myself everywhere. We went my best to you BECCA. Thank you for giving us a smile on a good Screech Week Gabrielle Monteverdi Danvers Massachusetts. Wow Wow thank you. Gabriel that's an amazing series of stories there and obviously as an avid listeners. To the show will no I will be a complete one hundred ten percent believer in your little body experience. They're having experienced myself when I was seventeen or sixteen even for those who don't have the story are quickly regurgitated. And that is I read a book on astral projection. How to do it made actually stole it from bookshop for me? Because that's the scallops were and I skipped to the chapter that said how do it read it. It said that you need to meditate and you bad fall asleep now fall asleep. Focus on the spot on the ceiling. Closure is try still visualizes visualizes spot repeat repeat repeat so did about three in the afternoon opened me is looked at this spot on the ceiling. Closed me is is and how the sergeant pepper album on repeat One afternoon anyway fell asleep. And then Madonna came into the room and basically said in no uncertain terms. You're lazy busted. You should go out and get a job. Assorted things stop sleeping in the afternoon. I told him where to go. Put me back on the pillow and the moments I put me back on the pillow like that just clicked me fingers. I was settled and I thought on. I haven't actually before I could say moved. I was laying back down in bed and I couldn't move. Yes I'd sleep paralysis and then slowly but surely I got tangled all of me like pins and needles and I've could very slowly move and I've never experienced pins and needles all over me buddy but you know when you get that much coach and you know I can't explain what happened to be there but it was a sincere visceral things so yeah I completely believe that Gabrielle. Thank you very much for sharing it now. We have our final story of the show are. We'll be back next week with more rags. Don't worry about him so our next story comes in from Diana bands. She sent it over twitter and her story is called do it do it do it. I love your goofy voices and how how you best into Song you remind me of myself which worries me because I had no idea how annoying I am. Hello that's do. You WanNa rephrase that and send it back in. I'm not gonNA read. I am I am I joke by thank you. I'm glad to a toupee and apart I continue. I have been a lifelong lover of horror movies. Mysteries mysteries ghost stories and the unexplained in general. However I do not go out of my wake? have any supernatural experiences. I just like hearing about them. Aside it from the stories I'm about to share. I have not had any other spooky or unexplained occurrences in the early two thousands. My husband and I moved into a small bungalow style house house. I have attached to Pitcher of the house which to say guys are on the facebook. Page if you WANNA go over there just search we need to talk about. Goes up on there anyway. The the House of built in the Nineteen Thirties and had lots of original woodwork built in cabinets and draws and a lovely enclosed front porch. The had French doors the the home was small but very cute and had lots of character. Some things that were noticed but not really given much of a thought or than this is an old house with the icy spots. What's and the French doors popping open and slowly swinging wide open? Both toward explained is being drafts. Due to the House Age by two thousand six we have three children and my husband began spending more time away from home and eventually begin a relationship with another woman. The AL didn't expect that San but anyway anyway. Six months after youngest child was born in January two thousand eleven. He moved out and we got a divorce after my divorce when my children will go to bed my evenings evenings with very quiet times alone watching TV reading doing chores or hobbies I like solitary time so this was fine for me after working fulltime and being a single mom to three small children. It was nice to have some alone time. The punters I like the quiet and did not feel uncomfortable at toll. I don't know if it was my husband leaving Omi being a bit roar insensitive from all divorce or what but this is about the time I began to think that this was maybe more than characteristics of an old house. This is not really a story mode of a recount of some of the things happen to experience. Aside from the French stores popping open slowly on several occasions I notice them swing close a latch short. As if someone was passing through the room I would literally just turn the other away and not even acknowledge it. I could not come to say out loud. What I saw ignore ignore ignore south like the best thing to be fair because I would absolutely doc in mine who anyway? This continued to happen occasionally until I moved out years later or the people saw the doors move and I would just brush it off because I didn't want to talk about it as I mentioned before there would also be very cold spots all times. You just felt an extreme chill but it will pass about the time. My oldest child was four or five years old. I felt the cold chill in the night. It woke me up and I just decided to get up. Check the Thermostat a look in on the children. When I got my daughter's room it fell freezing and unnoticed? H- he bent was closed. I opened it up ten the heat up and back. It's a bed in the morning when my daughter woke up I told it to. Please stop closing the heath bent because it gets to Chile. She plays day like it was the most ordinary things assay said. I closed at at night. Because if I don't little ghosts come out of it. Little ghosts calm. Oh my God and and she listens says Oh my God that's horrific. Oh God can you get these kids adopted. Oh my Lord. That's awful inside inside and dying but I just can't say oh okay that's fine then. We never really talked about it again. What are you crazy woman? Oh my Lord get a priest get an old. Oh priest gotta young priests get a Bible. Jesus wept another feature of the house was a laundry. Shoot in the bathroom. It looked like a little square door in the wall and it was a wonderful convenience as it drops the laundry down right near the Washer and dryer. The kids and myself always dropped our dirty laundry down the chute. It was a phone way for the wants to help with chores because they liked look down. Shoot I'm watches. They drop stuff down there on occasion might two boys withdraw toys down the chutes and then hoot and and Hala to have me go down to the basement to retrieve said toy. This became an annoying nuisance and I started to give the boys a time out for doing it. They stopped doing for the most part but one time my youngest son who was about two or three at the time began crying because his favourite trained toy was down the chute. While this could could have totally been my son for sure but it was the first time I heard about lally. Od at God. What the Hell is our lally? I think we're about to find out. He claimed that lally put the train down. The Chute lally was also to blame for dropping a toy in the total. At one time I was just like whatever I'm not buying the lally business with the boys shared a bedroom and parts of bedtime routine was making sure the closet was closed because lally was in the honest to God. This is getting scary now. Got A chill right down my backside and spine of course Jesus. I will just nonchalantly acknowledge it because I did not want to make a thing of this lally but I would make sure the closet was close. Tie for the boys so they would not feel scared now. This next thing was the only time I ever full on acknowledged lally and it was about the same time the boy we stopped mentioning him. My youngest son was walking towards me and he just launched forward a fell flat on his face he immediately started crying and I rushed over to comforts puts him and make sure he was okay as I was consoling him. I said something. Like oh my what happened. And he said that lally pushed him. It did look like he sure does something but he was also clumsy toddler. So take this as you will. I felt so bad for my son so I shouted out Lawley. Don't you ever bother my kid again. An or you'll be sorry. That made myself feel better and we just went on with whatever we were doing. I never really heard much about lally after that but once I made my somewhat look like and he said he looked like a face with goggles on bought no mouth. Oh Jeez I've got to try and sleep tonight after all our listeners. What the hell? I do hope that this ends well. But judging by this like faceless entity with goggles and no mouth I generally generally don't think that's going to be the case but you never know. Let's see that was about the scariest thing I ever heard but I just nodded and kept my cool like that was ordinary. My last experience involve me being slightly drunk. So take it as you will. The Kit spent the weekend with Dad. I was alone for the whole weekend. I went out with friends and awesome cocktails. After the For nights out I returned home a made it to bed and completely passed out. I was woken up in the night. By the extreme cold. I was killed up in such a way to have my arms under my body and because it was so cold I did not want to reach them out to pull the blankets around me still feeling a little drunk and being cold and tired I yelled no doubt if you are a ghost making it so cold then can you at least cova me up with a blanket. I swear to God I felt the blanket slowly. pull up around me to the shoulders. I was terrified. I just close my eyes tightly and said thank you. Now Go away. I'll tell you why you're braver than me. I mean if if it goes pulled the blankets up around my shoulders. I think I think I wouldn't say thank you and go away. I think I'd say can you kindly my father tell him to make haste and bring some holy the water that is terrifying. Oh my God I can't believe it or not. That's amazing well done you and just lay there as still as possible until I eventually fell l.. Back Asleep was having drunken hallucination. I don't know I just remember waking up in the morning thinking what the hell happened last night. I was very shook up after that one and began the process of moving shortly after not surprised I have not had any were experiences since and I hope I don't again. Wow that is is worn. Hal of a group of experiences kagyu cursed you. Were you born under lookie star. was you born with a call across your face because because that's terrifying Diana I honest to God I would Get your entire family history researched I would. It's fought as a necklace and Yeah I'd probably seek out that guy's being killen sheep in England and say please protect me Gandalf. That is utterly terrifying. I can't believe that you go through that because I certainly wouldn't survive mentally physically or emotionally while while we while well guys if you've got story as good as that Senate in contact I talk about ghosts. I'll read out. Maybe with Rebecca may be on my own who knows who doth north Yeah and You'll scare the living Jesus out to meet like those stories of today. and just to say from next week as well we've obviously got a website. WWW dot he of course worldwide web. Don't you know. Www dot talk about ghosts. I DOT COM and on their from next week. We're going to start having story of the week so we're GONNA have a bit of a wall of fame over there where I'm going to put up the best story of that we show show and the story will be up their freedom to read throughout the leisure the idea being at the end of the year we should have like fifty two stories on which I think it'd be good for anyone just looking through but a spooky research and we'll get into a spook on Halloween or whatever so yes so do send them in. You'LL MUKTA wall of fame fame fame fame. Speaking of people get into as well. We've that's lovely early reviews and I think we're going to read them out to say thank you so the first one comes in from died. Detroit by Apple podcasts from the US survey and she says fivestarsoap US phony and some good spooky stuff. Kevin has a delightful Liverpool accent and clever wit. So it's almost like listening to a Beatles cartoon with ghost thrown in the Beatles. Meet Scooby Doo podcast spooky listeners. Stories sandwiched between amusing commentary and occasionally his skeptical partner. Becka make for ghostly on thank you very much Di. That's it's very nice of you to say the next one is from haunt babe from the. US Survey Five Stars subscribe is the title of this one. This is Kevin has stock not only the original interesting content but also humor that makes him so lovable. ooh and easy to come back to less. Thanks haunt babe and finally we got one from Our Name. I recognize one of our new patriots. Whether was a wou which is this is brilliant? Five stars just discovered this. I'm basically listen to two years worth four days. Wow It's brilliant. Thank you Kevin is hilarious. Thank you Vega which makes me laugh out loud at my desk. When I shouldn't be listening to podcasts so I'm trying to convince it's my boss? I have actually developed giggled. Rats that's a good thing. Yeah I don't think he's buying it but I also started thinking in a scouse accent. You to Liverpudlians unsown overload anyway. Highly recommend great giggle good stories and deadbeat August stars. What more can you want in life? Nothing why thanks Weser was a whoo. And he's from Great Britain or she's from Great Britain. I just don't know what they're from. Great Britain we just never know. So thank you for those lovely reviews and if you WANNA leave a review it does help the show. You can leave it wherever you want. Apple podcast stitcher. 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S04E06: Pressing In for Pressing On

Making Disciples with Robby Gallaty

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S04E06: Pressing In for Pressing On

"This is making disciples with robbie galley which is part of the replicate podcast network as a resource to equip and encourage leaders to make disciples who make disciple makers. Here's your host. Chris wings today on the podcast. We are continuing to talk through the long hollow revival. And we're going to talk about something. I'm pretty about pressing in or pressing on. We are at a point here as we continue through the story. We talked about your year of praying and seeking god for personal revival. We've talked about the amazing sunday. We had that blew our minds With ninety nine baptisms followed by a couple of days later. Eighty something baptisms on a tuesday night prayer service that we just said. Hey let's just meet together and pray that's all we're going. Do open the doors two days before christmas. Why don't we meet together and pray. No i don't think it was meet together and pray it was just. Let's open the door and see who comes to be baptized. We sent one email and one message online and that was it. That's one of the reasons. We're doing this podcast. We want to remember what god has done and celebrate. What god is continuing to do more and more portland one. Encourage you exactly. Yes you may be a pastor. Listen to some of this and thinking man. I want to do something like that. My church and i would just say if someone would have called us in november and just said. Hey god's about to do something great and you're miss. I think we wouldn't believe it. But i'm not sure we would have believed that at the level of what god is doing and honestly a couple of things to clarify. Never want you. maybe saying. Are you sure this is revival. What you mean revival because a lot of people here revive on it's a it's a mark date on the calendar you know we're going to have revival for the week and and we drew up Things for god to come here. We believe in obviously It's only the lord but we believe this is a genuine move of the lord and that is now spreading out to other churches. That's why we use the term revival because there are people now watching with the use of technology and the internet and online church services that are watching long hollow being moved in the spirit to be baptized at their own churches. Now and so we're getting reports as recently as the last two weeks right of people who have seen what's happened here and went to their pastor and said would you baptize me. But let's not get ahead of ourselves. Yes because we're going to tell those stories more in depth to and what we wanted to do today as we continue. Pass that tuesday timeframe or kind of walking through it slightly chronologically is. We had a decision to make catherine incredible sunday. Hundreds of people baptized between sunday. And tuesday and christmas is coming. And i feel like in my mind as a church leader. I was thinking may god is great. Let's see what happens in twenty twenty one versus. I think the way you were thinking of that point is got his great. And i want more. What's happening right now. Me yeah no. That's exactly what we had gotten to a place. Where after a tuesday as as you can imagine. I mean we just baptize. What one hundred and eighty people i think. One hundred eighty people over one hundred and eighty people at that point. In fact i got the exact number. Because i was documenting with the law was doing December twenty second we baptize one hundred and three december. Twenty four th so. We're going into christmas with a hundred and eighty six now. I'm gonna tell you the baptism on wednesday. That's pretty amazing. And this is really where chris started. I had known at that point. One hundred and eighty five people in december twenty third in cova. Let me just remind your couple things in kovin were online exclusively now. Bake april are barricaded sequestered in their homes. Because of the virus is tennessee is leading the country. Yeah in cases are services or not meeting in person that people in tennessee. Tennessee never thought it was a real thing anyway to begin with unfortunately some people and now it's just got some but they need that they know. Now it's a real deal and so now we're all kind of nervous and so we have everything stacked against us. Okay and so. I believe i mean like you In in three days to baptize one hundred eighty five people. If that would have been it we would have talked about those three days forever. I mean i wanna talk that for the rest of my ministry. I remember that three day period long hollow where we ties one hundred eighty. Five people eighty five percent at that time. We're adults mostly adults. Many over sixty you go back and look at the videos which you can look at those service dates many of them over sixty years old in fact. If you haven't seen the videos robert is going to link that or ad that linked to the show notes for the podcast. You can. you can watch that. Well worth watch. I was just go. Watch one of them. I dare you to try to watch it without crying. I dare you you. Can't i mean it's it's impossible to do that So anyway we're going into Christmas eve agai the day before. Christmas eve and i get an email for my sister. Actually i email on tuesday and the email is this. My mother has been watching you online that they go too long hollow but the mom is sickly and so she was in the hospital and she said mom's been watching your line since she can't come in person we are. We are faithful of long hollow. Obviously because a cova we haven't been but mom just got sent home today with hospice. And she has one dying wish slaves in her seventies late. Seventies one dying wish. Okay was that you would baptize her. Passer would you come and baptizing my mother. She sent home with hospice. This is this is tuesday afternoon. I get the email and i respond in right then. I have to say when we left the tuesday service. If you remember was so jazzed up and so fired up. We were supposed to be off okay. We were supposed to be off between the sunday before christmas. And the in the sunday. After christmas and even through new years well. And i think i keep that thought but i think it's important to remember sunday you were. You preach sunday a nine. People got baptized on sunday morning. And then you made the announcement. We're not going to meet for four weeks. It was almost like you. You went to the the altar important instead. Let's put some water on the altar. This is once again. There's not enough water but more on the would. Yeah no that's exactly right. And i hesitant. Lee said that. Like are we gonna and we're gonna talk about that in a future episode. What god is teaching us about his ministry and the move of god in the use of technology because it flies in the face of everything. You've ever read about in books and biographies for years. So get this email. On tuesday night and when i got it. I've just gotten a lecture if you will a strong encouragement from my leadership team. Which chris one of which said to me pastor. You have to take a break. I was pretty jazzed up. I was working since that. No i didn't sleep. I honestly did not sleep because baptizing during the week. I was baptizing on monday. I was baptized on tuesday. We had the tuesday night service. I was ready to meet on christmas day. You know they were hoping passer. Please do not call a christmas day. Baptism service so they looked at me and said you have got to take some days just because we were running pretty hard from august and i said okay and then that night i got the email it was from this lady and she said my mother I think her name was theresa. And she said my mother Just got sent home with hospice. And she said she has a wish that you would come baptize. Her and the first thing. I did when i read. That email was man. I'd love to do that but my staff just told me. You probably need to take a break. So i wanted to say to her. Can i push it back a day or two okay. Can i push it back till the day after christmas. Right and But something just just convicted me. Yeah and the spirit really a really spiritus really spoke to me and i thought now you have to do this now so i emailed her back and i said i'll be there tomorrow at noon can come at noon. She said yes. You can do that at noon. So i got together. Brother timber floor. You know. Tim on the podcast. Him are equipping pastor here long hollow works with replicate and i said Brother t what. We're going to go anoint. A lady now. I will say this which is pretty interesting. We went and it was the first time i had done. A baptism like this. I'm gonna give a disclaimer now about this. We're gonna talk about it after the break but it is a baptism. Unlike any that i've ever done before and it's a unique baptism. Because of the circumstances right it was it was not a situation where you can do things normally because of a medical medical condition. Yes so you had to adapt and we'll talk more about that on the other side of this break as you leave your disciple making movement. The replicate network provides ongoing practical training and community of like minded church leaders to help you and your church thrive each month. You'll get frameworks. Acute anytime with rodney gallen and access to our online forums and groups we will provide you with prayer and personal support practical resources discounts and benefits as you seek to make disciples who make disciple makers check out the replicate network today at replicate network dot com and we're back talking about pressing in or pressing on the decision we as leaders had to make and again just to follow god and what he was doing again. None of this is orchestrated by us. We didn't have a game plan. We didn't have a step by step. We weren't trying to manufacture anything. We were just like god. What you're doing is incredible and we want more of it and so we talk through Where we're at and we we talked about this lady that was really in in in the last days of her life in hospice and she had this request that you would cut. She'd been watching. What's going on at long haul. And she wanted to be baptized or so she contacted you. Got your longtime mentor. And one of our staff members are equipping. Pastor protei headed over to her house to baptize her and we talk about her medical condition and just the situation she was not allow a getting up from where she's at going full immersion emergent. Right right yeah. So we found out the scenario which was she was immovable in the bed. She was very frail. She was obviously on the on the verge of death and so tim calls me and he says what do you think we ought to do. Pastor said well let's do some research through the history of the church in through the centuries to see if there are any concessions for a person who's dying or person who is unable to get under the water into the water and so brother. Tim did some research and that morning. I had a first time meeting with dylan brown. So dylan brown and i went to pinera now. For those. Who are following dylan. Brown was the man who actually Really god really used him early on To to help spark this revival because he was the ten year former satan worship and got radically saved and I think we've talked about that story. Okay so dylan. Brown gets radically saved and So we're meeting and he's telling me his testimony. And i'm seeing their pinero and i'm telling you the hair on the back of my neck is standing up. As he said he came the long hollow. And i said well how did you come. The long hollow is a student at the school across the street. Young and he said i came along hollow and i saw a bunch of students. This is what he said. What an indictment on the church a bunch of students who were jazzed up for jesus on wednesday and then went back to school and live no different than the pagan friends that they were in class with. Yeah and he said what really drove me to satanism and this is what was full force. Drove me and he said we're the parents who knew this was happening and allowed it. He said i saw the whole thing as hypocrisy me to satanism so he told me the story about high win on the internet and search. I didn't know you could search this how to sell your soul to the devil. Did you know you could do that. I i knew. I could go on google and ask questions. That's not a question. I've ever even thought i never thought to ask ask that question. I'm telling you. I'm at panera. A sip hot coffee with a straight face. I mean it was tough and he told me how he met. He was getting a tattoo at the same time. And if you've seen pictures of dill and he's got tattoos from head to toe from that lifestyle and he said i'm getting a tattoo tattoo artist tells me hey listen i can help you with that. I'm a satan worshipper. Anton levay high priest in the movement. And i can help you. And so he says let's go out to a field they go out to a feel. They make a bonfire they Put a pentagram on the ground. They they draw blood from the sacrifice of an animal. He slits a part of his wrist. He makes a deal in repeats. This seance type ritual and he tells me these words and this is right before leaving to go baptize this lady. He said robbie. When i looked into the fire i saw the face of satan. And i said oh really and he said yep and he said from that point on for the next ten years of my life. I was successful by the world standards. He said everything. I touched a successful women. Partying money. possessions jobs. You name it drugs. I mean he. He said everything by the world standards he said. But here's the thing he said would satan did to me as he said on the outside. I'll look successful on the inside. I was hollow shell. I was empty. And he said what happened. Was i went to prison For the fourth and fifth time and he sent me made a deal with the lord he said. Try to call out to satan. He was no help. And so i decided. I remembered what i learned years ago at long hollow about the lower and cried out to the lord and i said if you're real and you get me out of jail i'll surrender my life to you fleece the obote i've seen god do greater things right and so he gets out of jail. Miraculously he comes and finds the only christian he knows. Which has danny. Who is the leader of our celebrate. Recovery recovery ministry. Here he goes to danny. And says danny i think christian danny says you need to be baptized and so that starts so i'm sitting there with with With bill and i say hey listen. And this is one of those instances where i spoke before i thought not not that i would've taken it back but you're gonna see what i'm talking about so i say hey. I'm about to go baptize a lady in her home. Because i'm always big on discipleship and taking people with me and doing ministry which was great for him. Obviously but i didn't ask the people. Before i brought dillon with me and again and again i said hey would you want to come. He said absolutely hanging with you hanger. Both tim i'm in and so as we're driving to switch cars and everybody getting one car i realize i'm about to bring a former satan worshiper touted from head to toe. Yes to the home of hospice patients of a sweet couple. Think about but then the lord or an item e. Yeah but then you have. Tim leflore former alcoholic than we. Have you a former drug addict and alcoholic dylan. A former say this is the. This is the motley crue of christianity. Right here guys. I mean this is it and so we walk into the home and as we drive there. Tim says in the dedicate which is an ancient riding back in the first second century. Which was kind of a manual if you if you know this. They founded the dead sea in the kumaon area. It was a manual on how to practice christianity. Carry out things and in the manual. There is a concession that win. there's no not enough water or there's a certain medical or situation where you can't get someone in the water you can sprinkle the head i. It's two or three times. I think you do it so we went in there. And we had to give dylan and another guy. Who was with is a disclaimer. You're going to see to baptist pastors sprinkle a lady. So let's just. Let's just get this out the way this is not the normal way to baptize. in fact baptisms always immersion always after faith and repentance just a little feel logical side note. you know. Baptism doesn't save you. We don't believe baptism save you. God is doing incredible things. You baptism a long hollow right now but it is always. After we'd counseled we talked through salvation. Salvation is is the key map peasants outward expression of salvation. Just wanna make sure as we're telling these stories people understand that. Yes the good clarification and i would say this most of the people that were baptizing because you're probably wondering what what was it that led most of the people the baptize. I was thinking about this yesterday. I think most of the people. I i would say half of the people we baptize and i get to hear most of the stories or a lot of them. I ask them what your story. Most of the people say i was christened or sprinkled catholic like you as a methodist as a presbyterian as a lutheran yeah later in life i realized i had no say in that decision. Yeah that was something that was done to me. It was not something. I had any choice in choice. In the matter it wasn't until years later high-school college adult years. That i came to faith in christ and i knew that i surrendered my life to christ and i was born again. And now. The time that's elapsed. Since that day till today has made it very difficult for me to be baptized because of my pride and say that. Because i know there are some listening or we have family members like that and you you need to understand that it becomes increasingly harder the longer. The time is elapsed between the day. You surrendered your life to christ today and you saw it. I mean you see chris. Baptized people ready for this. Who have waited sixty years to follow through about some of waited longer. I would say something even longer but sixty years i mean. Think about that so I i want you to know. Baptism doesn't save you. But i really believe. This is an outward sign of an inward desire to follow. Christ that becomes a spiritual marker. You remember the day you got baptized. I remember the day. I got baptized I it's something you never forget. Obviously and and even now so it's becoming even more impactful so we drive up to the house. The lady walks out the and keep in mind. I'd never met this couple before so they were long long hollow members but i never got the chance to meet him before and so we pull up to the house and they say hey passer. Glad you're here. And then they look over immediately. I say you. This is my friend dylan brown. I asked dylan the come with us. And she said this is crazy. Oh we know. Dylan we know. All about dylan's. She said we watch baptize. We watch him via part of the bat. We know dylan is a great and so dylan said. I'm glad to be here. And so we walk in the house and we tell them what we're gonna do. And i and i said i could probably pick her. That's tim told me on the way there. He said if you move her and she gets hurt. It could be really bad. You don't want to be the cause of her getting hurt worse so i said listen. This is not normative. However we believe that the desire of her heart right and the and the water that we're going pour over her head is going to suffice for baptism. So we go in there. Chris we go in the room and her whole families their families there she's laying she's laying in the bed and she tells me right for you walk in. This is only the lord. She says mom is not coherent. She has not been coherence since we got home. She's in Kind of a lucid state. She's not really there. I said okay. So we walk in soon as i walk in i said teresa. It's robbie galaxy. It was like a light switch went off. She turned over in the bed and she looked at me. She said pastor robbie. I'm so glad to see you totally locked in and said teresa. We're here because you requested for us to come baptize you and it is a privilege of mind to be able to do that and she said i'm so glad you came and i said great so we prayed. I got a cup of water. Put a towel under ahead ported over ahead a couple of times we prayed and thank the lord foreign the name of the lord. Jesus name of the father son and the holy spirit berry with christ raised to walk in new life with baptism. And i said wow what a joy is to do that she said. Can i ask you a question. And she began asking me questions. I think she asked me two questions. About baptism about death in about cremation. She was nervous to be put in a casket. People have different perspectives on death. I mean she had a. She had a concern of claustrophobia. This is true. And then she legitimately concerned she said. I just don't know if my body in a casket is something. I want What do you think about cremation which was interesting question. But she's really locked in. She's locked in. And so i said well i can answer questions. We talked for about ten minutes. And then tim says why. Don't we sing. Tim's always good for an old gospel on. He likes to wrap it up with a. He always does this. And i'm telling you when. Tim began to sing the power of god into that room chris. It was like we were singing with. I mean i don't wanna make too much of it but it was almost like the angels were singing with us so we began to sing. Amazing grace how sweet the sound saved a like me. And then i think we send saying final one when we've been there ten thousand years bright shining as the sun and when we finished She said thank you and when we left the daughter told us she went right back to being completely out of it it was as if the lord for that one window of time not just for us but for her family to see her knowing being secure in her salvation and us praying for i went home. We had a great time. Obviously i was so thank the lord. Allow me to do that. I got an email. I'm sorry. I got a text the next morning at six thirty. Am the tech simply was this mom has gone home to be with the lord in eighteen hours from the time we baptize in prayed for she entered the presence of jesus and i can't think of you think about that celebration. Yeah here's a woman who at the end of her life. She has one dying wish to be obedient to the lord. Jesus even to death. And i can't help but think jesus welcome her into his arms now. The cool thing is the grandson of the of the grandmother who died. Saw all this and i got an email the next week and from the parents and they said past rob. You never going to believe this. Our grandson our son watched what happened to grandma. And he wants to be baptized. so it's the ripple effect of obedience. And that's the thing. I want us to close today. When your obedient there is a ripple effect in your life where other people see your faithfulness and it stirs within them something to do the same so don't ever neglect the simple step of obedience to whatever the lord's calling to listen to that and you're saying i need to follow through baptism. Right do it. I need to apologize to someone do it. I need to surrender my life in an area do it. The greatest thing lee with as we close is obey the holy spirit. That's a good word and that is that it's been a theme for us throughout what god has been doing these last eight nine weeks and we are careful. God will continue to move. Can't wait to continue talking through story on the next episode of the podcast. If you enjoy this podcast or want to share it with someone else takes them right now. Send them a link rate us wherever you listen to podcasts. That'll help us out until next time. Bye bye thank you for joining us this episode. Take a moment to subscribe and share this. Podcast you can receive more free resources to help you make disciples in your home group or church by clicking the link in the show notes or visiting our website at replicate dot org.

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Satanic Panic Pt. 1: Origins

Serial Killers

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Satanic Panic Pt. 1: Origins

"Due to the graphic nature of this episode listener discretion is advised. This episode features discussions of Abuse Murder Sexual. Assault and child sexual assault that some people may find disturbing. We advise extreme caution for listeners under thirteen. In the nineteen eighties, a wave of anxiety surged across the United States worries about the economy military conflicts and religious turmoil seemed to dominate public discourse and too many. It felt like the nation was losing its way looking to cast blame some pointed the finger at inept governments and amorphous foreign threats from beyond the country's borders. But others suspected there was a more insidious threat something evil in the biblical sense and this fear wasn't wholly unfounded fueled by highly sensationalized crimes. The rise of occult imagery pop culture, and the growth of Evangelical Churches Paranoia ran rampant. There was some invisible malevolent force corrupting the youth of America and tainting the moral fabric of society. Every shadow hit a monster. There was no safe harbor. And in the face of such overwhelming evil, some people reason there could only be one entity to blame Satan himself. People were convinced nate uncovered the truth about an all encompassing evil conspiracy to end life as we know it, and from that first spark of insanity the flame spread rapidly allegations emerged the devil worshippers were carrying out disturbing occult rituals all over the country in homes businesses even schools and daycares people claim to see Lucifer's influence in movies music, and on the backs of shampoo bottles in the midst of the panic, a new religious right rose up using the news media as a megaphone they stoke the flames compounding the situation in. A misguided bid to destroy Lucifer at all costs. It wasn't long before wild conspiracies, half truths and phony first person accounts of satanism blended together horrific stories that young children were being kidnapped, sexually abused and murdered by Colts Spread like Hellfire overzealous law enforcement and psychologists pursued the claims coaxing children into corroborating be outrageous allegations based on these dubious testimonies scores of daycare center employees and parents. stood trial families were torn apart businesses left in ruin reputations reduced to tatters, and when the dust settled some still didn't know what to believe. That was the satanic panic misinformation paranoia and fear ignited a firestorm across North America and the implications of this modern day witch hunt still ripple even today. Hi I'm Greg Poulsen. First episode of five part special on the satanic panic part of a crossover event between serial killers and colds. Over the next four weeks we're taking a deep dive into what sparked this modern day mass panic in America I'm here with my co host Vanessa, Richardson? Hi Everyone. You can find episodes of serial killers, cults, and all other spotify originals from podcast for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts with several decades worth of distance. It's easy to pass judgment on those who were swept up in the madness of the satanic panic, but we're going to examine exactly how. It took hold from nineteen sixties, popular culture and the rise of evangelical. Christianity to serial killers and murderers. Colts were delving into the facts that fed the falsehoods. Today were charting the origins of the satanic panic tracing its roots back to the highly publicized crimes of cults and serial murderers in the nineteen sixties and Seventies. We'll also look at how sensational reporting led to an unprecedented explosion of paranoia as the nineteen eighties rolled around next time, we'll cover the murderous rampages of three iconic serial killers who terrified their communities and look at how these criminals impacted the atmosphere of the satanic panic. We have all that and more coming up stay with us. This episode is brought to you by the National Highway, Traffic Safety Administration Forty eight states banned texting and driving. So if you do it, you're not only putting people at risk you're breaking the law remember you drive you text you pay. Detective Bob Perez could feel all the hairs on the back of his neck standing on end. It wasn't sure if it was the chill in the air or his horror over the task at hand for the last several weeks, he'd been investigating one of the most horrific abuse cases. He'd ever seen his ten year old foster daughter Donna revealed that sheep been sexually molested by nearly every adult in her life. Every time he talked to her Donna revealed more and more abusers but she didn't always know their names. She called them things like a bald guy with glasses or a fat mother with black hair detective Peres needed more information so that morning March Thirteenth Nineteen Ninety five, he drove down around the streets of Wenatchee Washington to see if she could point out the homes of her molesters, the places. where she and other children had been passed around like party favors according to Donna it was all arranged by an elaborate underground sex ring the hidden underbelly of this sleepy Pacific Northwest town as Perez turned down street after Street Donna pointed at more and more of the front doors by the end of the drive she identified twenty two houses and buildings throughout the town including a local pentecostal church. Perez was stunned. The cult of abusers was wider than he could have possibly imagined. Started to. Call them the. Circle? But Peres didn't truly appreciate the diameter of the circle not yet when he finally saw the whole picture, he'd helped bring charges against forty three adults accused of raping or molesting sixty children at least twenty, nine, thousand, seven, hundred, twenty, six times except none of it actually happened. Scenarios like the one in Wenatchee played out over and over again during the satanic panic in towns across America in the nineteen eighties and nineties, it was a time of nearly unprecedented paranoia a period where the darkest most outrageous accusations were taken seriously even by educated otherwise reasonable adults in short, it was a moral panic. And to fully grasp these events, we need to understand exactly what that means. Sociologist and criminologist Stanley Cohen writes that moral panics occur when a person or group of persons emerges to become defined as a threat to societal values and interests next warnings about the threat must be passed on by worried citizens this can happen through any number of ways but in the modern era, panic most commonly spreads through mass media according to Cohen if newscasters community leaders or other public officials can condense. The danger into a digestible easily recognized simple. It's much more likely to incite public outcry and to Christian Middle America. There is no simple more terrifying than Satan himself. Once a threat has been signified regardless of whether the panic is justified or rational authorities are pressured to do something about it. Any dissent is considered suspicious at best at worst it's a clear sign of guilt at the height of the Satanic. Panic many took disagreement as a sign of collusion with evil because no one wanted to be ostracized by their community people encouraged and embellished rumours wanting to avoid casting suspicion on themselves too many. There were only two choices guilty or innocent to believers defeating Lucifer was a caused. That was an absolute good cloaking themselves in sanctimony parents pointed to the encroaching threat of Satanism as justification for stamping out whatever offended. Them, after all the fate of their children's souls were at stake eventually, moral panics can grow powerful enough to affect actual social change and when they do. This only reinforces the original concern after law enforcement and psychologists started looking into the satanic accusations circular logic in sued for skeptics and believers. Alike, the very fact of an investigation served as evidence that the threat was real. Why else would those in power act? This process showcases the emotional minefield that surrounds any widespread moral panic or conspiracy. To those who feared that satanic cultists were invading their neighborhood but devil was the ultimate evil and his victims young children were the ultimate innocence. In this way, the collective voices of the Satanic Panic believers grew until they drowned out any reasonable debate with each additional person who bought in the threat started to seem more legitimate to those on the outside. Eventually, the masses took even the most outrageous claims seriously with life altering consequences and the bigger the scandal, the more captivating the headlines. Satanic, panics read through mass media and was influenced by modern popular culture. It followed a similar course as previous moral hysteria throughout history. From the Salem witch trials to the red scare vicious rumors and the dark side of human nature have always driven people to violence masquerading as righteous justice. Even the disturbing accusations of satanic ritual abuse have their origins in the ancient and often bloody crusades of the past stories about children being kidnapped and murdered to appease the devil can trace their roots back millennia ironically, some of the earliest of these stories targeted Christians rather than Satan as the perpetrators of evil in ancient Rome. Christians were accused of kidnapping and cannibalizing children as a relatively new religious minority. They were blamed for everything from economic hardship, two destructive fires, but as Christianity spread and became more socially. By the Middle Ages, the midst were co opted and used to advance the church's Interests Florence H. Ridley. A literary scholar found that stories of child sacrifice circulated as early as the fifth century in her article a tale told too often ridley attributes. One of these tales to socrates of Constantinople, a Christian historian not to be confused with the Greek philosopher. She writes socrates spun a tale of how it inmates star in Syria, a group of Jews tortured and murdered a Christian Child in mockery of Christ, and ever since that remo time similar stories have continued to appear in various forms in the folklore of Western Europe and eventually in America this pattern continued. As the years went on throughout the medieval period stories of innocent children who were kidnapped and tortured by smaller religious groups ran rampant in the modern era. Similar tropes were used by the Third Reich as antisemitic propaganda to indoctrinate the Hitler youth in Nazi Germany in the United States tales like these were used from the country's inception as a way to malign black people for more than a century stories of black men attacking torturing and killing white children circulated throughout the country at one time they served as excuses to justify evils like slavery. After the civil war, they were used to enact and expand Jim Crow laws that kept black people subjugated and oppressed. No matter what else changed this kind of baseless fearmongering reinforced racist policies and institutions. Though. It ratio of these vile stories differed in their particulars for over a thousand years they've demonized Volna rebel groups by using innocent children as sympathetic victims because society generally agrees across the board that crimes targeting children are senseless despicable. It's so outrageous. We don't even questioned whether these accusations are true by manipulating emotions. These stories twist the protective instincts parents into a tool for prejudice and violence. The specific group targeted by these myths always depends on the social environment of the time as the sixties turned into the seventies, a new group emerged as the target of collective fear and distrust unlike in the past the motivation for these fears seemed less rooted in hate and more anchored in a mystical paranoia. Conservative adults were frightened as they felt American culture changing and ultimately slipping out of their control. In those uncertain times they invented an enemy big enough to justify drastic action and reassert their dominance over the country. This time they blamed Satan himself. Up next the seeds of the Satanic, panic take. Root. Listeners I, ever surprising nutrient for you. You know you can find love and a bar or on an APP why not a podcast in blind dating the new spotify original from podcast we're expanding the places you can meet your match with a twist you'll never see coming. 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The one thousand nine, hundred, eighty s the satanic panic shook the United States to its core when accusations of the ritual sexual abuse of children flew in every direction. But the paranoia that spawned these claims began much earlier. The first time many Californians heard the term satanist may have been in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, six when Anton levay founded the Church of Satan in San Francisco. But though his movement had a controversial name, it didn't inspire much outrage at first he only had a few hours most considered levay to be nothing more than a harmless crank for the rest of the country. Their first frightening introduction to Satanism came two years later in nineteen, sixty eight when the horror movie Rosemary's baby was released to critical and popular acclaim. Originally, a novel Rosemary's baby told the story of a secret group of cultists who arranged for an innocent woman to be impregnated with Satan's child. The next year in nineteen, sixty, nine levay published the Satanic Bible for him. Satan was not a physical creature with A. PITCHFORK and horns instead, he was a symbol of liberty and rebellion against a prudish controlling establishment in the first part of the book called Book of Satan levay wrote in this arid wilderness of steel and stone I raise up my voice that you may here to the east and to the West I, beckon to the north and to the south I show a sign proclaiming death to the weakling wealth to the strong. But the Satanic Bible wasn't as revolutionary or controversial as it pretended to be Lavar attacked the concepts of good and evil as well as organized religion, but his critiques weren't very original or shocking the book also. The philosophy of church which borrowed from or even plagiarized concepts from social darwinism along with the writings of Ragner redbeard in line Rand Levin also argued for a hedonistic lifestyle believing that it was human nature to give into lust greed and the individual ego hardly a shocking concept at the time indeed the only thing in the book that went beyond recycled philosophy was the final section there lasvegasmoneyresource instructions for various magic spells and invocations to the devil which looked a lot more frightening and impressive than they were because Levay did not actually believe in the supernatural these were meant to read as performance art pieces. Overall much if not all of the Satanic Bible. Was Derivative of other philosophies and debunked works of alleged black magic. Some purchase. The book has a novelty, but few gave it. Any credence for now levey was largely ignored, but it wasn't long before public interest in the occult grew beyond just a money making opportunity for Authors and movie studios. In August of nineteen, sixty, nine, the same year the Satanic Bible was published stories about depraved cults became gruesome reality that month Charles Manson and his Mahim Ian followers brutally. Murdered seven people in Los. Angeles, among the victims actress, Sharon Tate who was eight and a half months pregnant at the time of her death. Immediately, the Manson murders were sensational news around the country. All of a sudden reality was more terrifying than the bloodiest horror film and at the center of it. All was Charles. Manson. Almost overnight he became one of the world's most notorious villains evil in it. He was a genuine cult leader, a man who commanded his followers to murder innocent victims including an unborn baby in the service of. Dark mystical plan. His crimes were modern proof of the ancient horror stories about satanic child murderers. Tales of the attacks were further sensationalized morbidly fascinating the nation for years to come, and in many ways Manson's family played specifically to the paranoia of white suburban Americans that an evil force was coming to take their innocent children is violent cult was composed primarily of young middle class women who were drawn in by the hippie movement of the time. Every night, the news reported more about how the women were plied with LSD and Mesmerized by bizarre evil ideology following the murders. The truth about the cult emerged Manson told his followers that there was a secret coded message hidden in the Beatles white album according to him the lyrics of helter skelter foretold an upcoming apocalyptic race war for which he and his followers had to prepare. Soon, Manson wasn't described as a horrific isolated case his violence was conflated with anything and everything the news could link him to. In this environment of rising dread things like the Satanic Bible no longer seemed like harmless novelties instead of bit of spurious hedonistic nonsense depraved devil-worship suddenly seem like a real possibility. Charles Manson made America fear a new dimension of evil and everything he was associated with from rock music to the rise of hallucinogenic drug use were all loosely lumped under the same counterculture umbrella that led directly to Satan's doorstep. The Amorphous counterculture movement had been a favorite boogeyman of conservative adults for years. Young people throughout the country sought new experimental, more tolerant lifestyles. They also fiercely criticised the establishment and the ideal of the American dream this trend combined with the burgeoning civil rights and antiwar movements in the US. Made many feel that the country was under attack after years of worry the changing nation proved to them that their fears weren't unfounded. They were very real threats in the ice of these frightened parents they're growing children were poisoned by immorality and shortsightedness. There were plenty of potential scapegoats but after the Manson family murders, a huge portion of the blame fell on the era's popular music. In a fit of bizarre hypocrisy many into Manson's claims that satanic messages really were hiding on rock albums though they decried the cult leader as an evil liar, they cherry picked his claims that supported their fears into kind of dress rehearsal for the later satanic panic accusations. Baseless rumors were repeated ad nauseam until a sizable number of people in the US gave them. Credence people started playing albums backwards searching for hidden infernal messages in reality bands like the Beatles were experimenting with. Hiding Easter eggs in their music. For example, using back masking a technique in which sound is recorded backward onto a track. The Beatles had inserted a reverse lyric in their song rain. It just wasn't satanic though there were some legitimate instances of back masking not every rumor about it rang true when people found something they thought was demonic. They played it for their friends with ample encouragement. Even skeptics could be convinced that there were devilish words hidden in the meaningless reversed sounds. As it turns out the human mind has a natural tendency to search for patterns, images, and distinct words even where none exist this psychological phenomenon is known as Peres Dalia. Looking into the sky and comparing clouds to animals or spotting gnarled faces and tree trunks are examples of visual Parrado. But this can influence our perception when listening to music as well. We don't always simply here what has played to us instead, we hear what we want to psychologists Diana Deutsch discovered that by broadcasting the same sounds through two speakers at slightly different rhythms. Listeners could be tricked into believing that phantom words or phrases were being played. She also found that the words people heard depended greatly on their mindset and thoughts at the time of the experiment. However, most people trust their senses implicitly and don't know to expect psychological tricks of the mind so in. The nineteen seventies when fearful parents heard, what they thought were demonic voices in the music, their children listen to they panicked, and for those who lead the messages were there. It wasn't a stretch to assume that the backwards words were actually corrupting their children swaying them to the side of evil part of this paranoia can be explained by a long held misunderstanding about so-called subliminal messages starting in the nineteen forties and fifties. Companies tried inserting single frame advertisements in the midst of otherwise unrelated cartoons and movies even though the conscious mind couldn't proceed the brief. Flashes advertises hope that the unconscious would be persuaded to act on the ADS. Subsequent psychological studies have largely discredited the original theories behind subliminal messages in nineteen seventy five researchers determined that flashing the words Hershey's chocolate during a student lecture did not lead to a sudden craving for chocolate for example, even when chocolate samples were readily available, that isn't to say that subliminal messages are entirely mythical. However more recent research has suggested that they can impact a person's choices though the effect is more subtle than once believed either way the idea that backwards infernal slogans. Can infect a child's mind is completely unsubstantiated. Nevertheless, it was still a theory in the early nineteen seventies and into the eighties at the time, some social psychologists and doctors argued that the brain could unconsciously perceive and internalize the secret recordings but their statements were completely baseless. Even these learned researchers have been hoodwinked by their own fears and biases. Ultimately, the truth of the claims didn't matter to concerned parents they heard what they wanted to, and for a multitude of reasons they were already looking for an excuse to declare the counterculture movement tainted or immoral. Hysteria around subliminal messages shocking books like say Tannock Bible and horrific colts like Manson's justified prejudices that parents already held but more significantly, the rumors unified a number of disparate groups. Suddenly religious groups, conservatives who resisted the social change at the time and adults who were simply wary of drug use all had common ground. The evil behind the curtain was at last revealed and too many it. All made complete sense. The youth were just rebellious and there was nothing innocent about the shifting tide of popular culture. Everything was orchestrated by a single entity who pulled the strings in the darkness. Every moral failing could be attributed to Satan and only a strident unified moral police could stop him. To, some he was influencing the music that children listened to the films they watched or possibly encouraging the use of drugs like LSD others saw that the devil was drawing young people away from Christian churches or fueling the spread of eastern religions like Buddhism. Meanwhile, for those who feared cults and serial killers like Manson Satan was violent being who craved debauchery blood and human sacrifice to those who opposed the rising tide of political and social change. Satan was instead an insidious cultural force. A seductive whisper threatened the hegemony of White middle-class Christians in the United States. No matter what. A concerned parents biggest fear chances were it could be traced back to the counterculture and bus. Lucifer. The Devil was a vague enough concept that it accommodated Christians of all stripes and it provided paranoid suburbanites. The perfect excuse to interfere wherever they liked as Anton levay wrote in the nine satanic statements of the Satanic Bible Satan has been the best friend. The Church has ever had as he has kept it in business all these years, and even after millennia the dark Lord was still giving the fears about satanic messages. Infiltrating media soon spawned a cottage industry of Christian approved paraphernalia. As rhetoric about the dangers of the devil in popular music and media multiplied churches eagerly stepped in to fill the vacuum as Satan's eternal enemy many concerned citizens felt only their pastors could. Be trusted since people still needed entertainment they turn to their religion for a safe alternatives. Contemporary Christian music was born in the late sixties and seventies as artists worked to create songs of worship with instrumentation and melody that resembled the popular music of the time. It was giving the churches stamp of approval something that was safe for children of all ages meanwhile born again, Christians wrote inspirational books about their religious journeys and as the nineteen eighties dawned, Christian television shows aimed at children dominated the airwaves but even with the explosion of Christian media, some stood out from the pack like the work of. Cartoonist Jack Chick. By the nineteen seventies, chick published a slew of short comic strips designed to inform children about the devils devious ways, and to inoculate their young minds against unholy temptations. The comics were quick and easily digestible with expressive art and heavy-handed Christian themes. They were eventually translated into over one hundred languages making them a handy tool for missionaries seeking to proselytize overseas. But as his repertoire expanded into dozens and eventually hundreds of comics, the dark side of chicks Christianity reared its head chick promoted a literal interpretation of the Bible and didn't shy away from attacking those. He saw as enemies of Christ. His comics included racist sexist homophobic, and Anti Catholic tries that born satanic conspiracies and threatened his critics with the terminal damnation despite or perhaps because of their aggressive and bigoted language, the sales of chick comics flourished during the seventies they found a fertile audience among the rising numbers of conservative Christians in the US and abroad. Though they were ultimately just comic strips. They nonetheless captured the essence of many Christian churches at the time and it wasn't a message of love peace but rather a warning against evil and a call to arms chick spelled it out loud and clear Satan was responsible for corrupting every aspect of modern life and anyone who refuse to rise up against him was doomed to spend eternity in a lake of fire while chick spread the word that only aggressive Christianity. and moral policing could stand in the way of Satan popular media at the time continued to fuel the public's paranoia more and more people came to genuinely believed that the devil really was on their doorstep the news scared them their churches scared them even comic books spread the fear by the mid Nineteen Seventies. People had been bombarded with warnings about Satan for so long that they were just waiting for him to stick his flaming pitch for through our mail slot. They were on the edge of hysteria and all it would take to set them off. Was One little spark. 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Driving is a serious problem on our roadways leading to the deaths of thousands of people and injuries in the hundreds of thousands each year. When you take your eyes off the road even for a second, it can be deadly not just for you but for others as well. It's important to know that forty eight states, Ban texting and driving. So distracted drivers are not only putting people at risk they're breaking the law. Look. It's dangerous to use your cell phone behind the wheel. It's why we have anti texting and driving laws. Remember is on the road hands on the wheel and my on driving. Remember you drive you taxed you pay. Now back to the story. During the nineteen seventies, the United States was gripped by widespread fear about demonic possession and the growing influence of the devil arising tide of moral outrage oversight Tannock imagery pop culture, as well as the highly publicized crimes of cults like the Manson Palley created a culture of paranoia. It seemed like people were more willing than ever to believe in baseless gossip and conspiracy theories especially if they played into their outlandish fears. So in Nineteen, seventy, five when a new crop of bizarre rumors spread across the nation people bought in. Dozens of mid Western rancher started reporting there. Cattle were being murdered and mutilated people suspected the devil worshippers were responsible. The cows were covered in small cuts which looked to be the work of a scalpel, a knife, or possibly some kind of ritualistic dagger cases of dead bovines popped up in Kansas Montana, and throughout the West and Midwest. Some of the animals had been mysteriously drained of their blood fueling wild conspiracy theories. It seemed like there had to be a paranormal explanation what else could account for. The fact that there were no animal tracks or footprints to be found around the animals corpses Shirley. An evil force was behind the deaths while some people blamed you up bows, government experiments or publicity hungry pranksters. The Satanic cult theory got most of the press armed citizen militias started guarding herds of Cadillac night and statewide scientific studies searched for the origin of the attacks but the results of. The investigations were what anyone expected. It turned out that most of the animals simply died of disease and other natural causes. Then small insects and other animals devoured their organs. The blood hadn't actually been drained at all. It just coagulated and thus didn't spill out of the tiny cuts made by the insects in the end ranchers were forced to confront the truth that these kinds of deaths. Have been occurring for years for decades dead Cadillac. These were considered normal casualties in fact, nothing about the incident was out of the ordinary and nothing had actually changed. But instead of accepting the truth, it spawned an even grander conspiracy now, not only did they believe that satanic cultists were slaughtering and drinking the blood of cows across the Midwest they wondered if evil people were covering it up. As, is often the case with conspiracy theories. The sensational press was aided by cynical profiteers clamoring to cash in on the drama. So, called cult experts and former Satan emerged from the woodwork eager to testify about the nature of demonic sacrifices. Even after multiple investigations failed to detect any foul play cranks and conman appeared on local news to spread misinformation about the cattle deaths, they fabricated elaborate and contradictory stories about how the supposed rituals were carried out and the profane tools. The cultists used to suck out the blood of the animals. These bogus cult experts didn't look for spots on the evening news. They also targeted churches and superstitious civilian watchdog organizations. All were eager to go into detail about their sorted satanic pasts and to warn the youth about the ever present Arcus for a price but the rumors about cultists ritually. Slaughtering cattle were just fueled by smooth-talking Synnex. They were spread by average people desperate to make sense of confusing world and there were certainly evil lurking in America at the time serial killers and even a few genuine depraved cults who committed a slew of horrific acts during the seventies and eighties. This mixture of sensationalize truth genuine mysteries misunderstood psychology and misleading conspiracy theories was difficult to sort through in some ways. It was similar to believe that a single overarching evil like the devil was deliberately pulling the strings unfortunately blaming Satan for all the world's problems allowed some bad actors to go overlooked. It also unjustly victimized innocent targets as time went on and militias stories multiplied they became even more outlandish. During the nineteen eighties the amorphous mob of conspiracy theorist, turn their sights toward one of the largest corporations in the US proctor and gamble best known for their head and shoulders. Shampoo proctor and gamble started receiving mounds of threatening letters from Anti. Satanists the messages claimed that procter and gamble's logo was the work of the Devil at the time the insignia consisted of a man's face in a moon next to thirteen stars, the stars were actually meant to represent the thirteen original American colonies but critics believed they were evidence that the company. itself with the Prince of darkness, the myth was based on a verse from the Bible Revelation Chapter Twelve verse one states, and there appeared a great wonder in heaven a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet and upon her head, a crown of twelve stars. The letter writers alleged that the logo made a mockery of that verse and was thus Satanic. They also claimed that the devils. Number six, six, six could be made if you drew lines between the stars according to conspirists that meant that proctor and gamble had signed a pact with Satan some even alleged that the company sent money to the Church of Satan, the allegations were primarily spread by a pamphlets passed out by Evangelical Churches in shopping center parking lots concerned citizens inform their neighbors that they were washing their hair with the devil shampoo. As absurd as the story was, it resulted in a genuine headache for proctor and gamble some retailers caped public pressure and stopped carrying their products in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, two, the company received more than three thousand letters a week complaining about Satanic Imagery. So they hired four full time employees who were solely devoted to answering every message every year it seemed the rumors became wilder finally in nineteen, eighty, five proctor and gamble changed their logo to quell the outrage once and for all though it may have stopped some of the criticisms moves. Like these only legitimized the absurd accusations in the minds of conspiracy theorists and the more anti satanist felt that their claims were validated the more they loaded the powder keg for the future panic. Later, our satanic panic special will explore exactly what happened when it did. But for now, remember people have been flooded with propaganda from all sides about the contrived threat of Satanism for years it was an environment were extremely vocal group of people legitimately believed they were fighting an eternal war with the devil there were no rules, but there would be casualties. Thanks again for tuning into our satanic panic special, we'll be back with part two of our cults and serial killers. Crossover event will explore the real and terrifying serial killers that fueled the satanic panic for more information on the history of the satanic panic amongst the many sources we used we found Geoffrey. Vickers, Article Satanic cult rumors as contemporary legend. Extremely. Helpful. To our research, you can find more episodes of serial killers, cults, and all other spotify rituals from podcast for free on spotify not only does spotify already have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite originals from podcast like serial killers and colts for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker. 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Con Artists Bites: Satanism

Con Artists

17:45 min | 10 months ago

Con Artists Bites: Satanism

"Welcome to podcast crime bites. We wanted to give our listeners some additional content to help them die even deeper into the true crime. Every week in addition to your normal con artists episode, we're exploring the most fascinating true crime themes carpet across the podcast network. We've collected short clips from some of our most popular podcast originals to help explore ideas like motivation, method and madness and show how interconnected the true crime road really is, you can find the original episodes for free on spotify over every you listen to podcasts. A list of episodes that we used will be posted in the episode description. Today, we're discussing satanism. What kind of influence has satanism had on crime and society? American society at large I became aware of Satanism in one thousand nine hundred sixties when a series of murders committed by the Manson family in were attributed to satanism and the cult. That same decade Anton La- Bay published the Satanic Bible, which became the basis text for the Church of Satan. The occult its way into the entertainment world, giving way for films such as Rosemary's baby in nineteen, sixty, eight and the exorcist in nineteen, seventy three. The nineteen seventies and eighties saw trend of serial killings committed by self-proclaimed Satanists including Richard Ramirez. who had a Pentagram drawn at his Palm and David Berkowitz Aka son of Sam, who claimed he committed his murders, part of a satanic death cult, the stereotypes and fear seem to culminate in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s and early ninety s when the United States went through mass media. Scare known as the Satanic Panic. The panic stemmed from a series of false allegations of ritual. Sexual Abuse of children in day cares. Today's clips will feature some crimes associated with satanism and the impact of this association. Our first. Clip is from serial killers and highlights David. Berkowitz also known as son of Sam David Berkowitz, sent terror through New York City during the summer of Nineteen, seventy, six, killing six people and wounding seven others. The murders caused a media storm Berkowitz sent taunting letters to the New York Police Department and gave himself nicknames in a letter sent to the. Daily News. Berkowitz was suffering from schizophrenia which brings on an inability to distinguish fantasy from reality. Berkowitz's fantasies. He assigned demons to the people and animals in his life. Well despite admitting to killing the women out of hatred David Continued his studies of Occult Imagery and deem analogy. He expressed a particular interest in an alleged Celtic Deity someone. Someone became the center of David's demonic fantasy. He read as much as he could. About the demon in order to feed into his demon fantasy story, he bought books on black magic cultism, and even satanism for him. These books and images provided a further outlet for sinister urges. Soon Sawan became a symbol of his darker more sinister impulses and hatred towards women. Through sow when he prayed for more opportunities to hurt women. So, what is this? Owan AC, some kind of Satanic Deity well. That's the interesting thing while some people may argue that someone is an ancient Celtic Deity. Most historians observed sow in as an ancient holiday, the precursor to All Saints Day, the day of the dead and even Halloween wait what? Someone is actually a holiday or festival, representing the end of the harvest season, and the start of winter usually celebrated around October thirty first been ancient times, people would dress up light bonfires and celebrate the end of the harvest with a big festival. In some cases, people even carved. GOURDS and dressed up as spirits going door to door to get food interesting. So how did he get a demon from a holiday? Most likely during his obsession with the occult, he found a book referenced Sawan as the Celtic God of death, which is now recognized, doesn't misconception of the holiday and its meaning that's fascinating will wrong or not David began to pray, and even make offerings to sell solid to further feed into his control fantasy. A like in his previous apartment, he began to scribble and right, strange and disturbing phrases all over his apartment walls. He even started to write poetry with one of his favorite pieces, being the mother of Satan. David was building a new persona around his fascination with the occult and this fictional sow win character, a persona that had control of others. And Pretty Soon David was going to pull all of New York into his control fantasy. In that clip from serial killers. We heard David Berkowitz embracing a deep fascination with satanism and the cult. Following Berkowitz's arrest in August nineteen, seventy seven. He confessed to police his satanists beliefs. Berkowitz claimed he'd been plagued by the box of his next door neighbor's dog. Sam Berkowitz believed that San was possessed by a demon who was giving him orders to kill. Later after Berkowitz was convicted, he admitted at the dog story was a hoax. Berkowitz perpetuated his own Satanic Myth. What? What happens when the public accuses someone of being a satanist? COMING UP! We'll discuss the purported satanic murder of Jeannette, Depalma. podcast listeners, I have a big announcement to commemorate her fourth anniversary podcast and the team behind unsolved murders taking a closer look at what it takes to catch a killer. It's a fantastic mu show that you can only find on spotify and is cold, solved murders true crime mysteries. Every Wednesday you'll follow the clues and uncovered the missing pieces to some of history's most ripping cases. Join Hosts Carter and Wendy as well as an ensemble cast of voice actors, as they explore the days months, and even years leading up to kill him being caught. Each episode of solved murders plays out like a classic murder mystery with a final reveal is nearly as shocking as the murder itself from the butcher of Plainfield Ed Geene to America's first serial killer H H Holmes. These accounts are all real over riveting and only available on spotify. Not every story. The ending, but at least they have an ending. Photos solved murders true crime mysteries free and only on spotify. Now back to the show. The. Mysterious nature of Satanism makes it ripe for a public interest when a crime is attributed to the occult. Sometimes that claim is brought on by the killer himself such as in the case of David Berkowitz, but sometimes the media starts brewer. In our next clip from podcast original. Murders we cover the nineteen seventy-two murder of sixteen year old, Genetic Palma, whose remains were found a cliff in New Jersey. Because the cases still unsolved, the motive for the murder is unknown, but accusations that she was the victim of a satanic ritual gain traction. Several newspapers reported killing as an occult sacrifice soon the accusations turn to Jeanette herself. Some Springfield Township residents even started to wonder if Ginette had brought her death upon herself well. I heard she was a witch. Or hung around with a crowd that was into that Steph. Yeah, totally I heard. She had some occult books in her bedroom or something. Maybe she wanted to sacrifice herself I saw some kids out at watching reservation decapitating pigeons awhile back and I heard there was a goat sacrifice around there at some point to. The stories about witchcraft in Springfield township and the surrounding union. County usually stories featuring teenagers weren't. To the diploma story, the Elizabeth Daily Journal ran an article. Entitled Do Pupils Pray To the devil on October Fourth Nineteen seventy-two. It cited a high school sophomores testimony that teenagers were hosting seances and occult rituals in the woods. There were whispers of the witches a reported Satanic Group operating in the area. There is evidence that local residents believed there was a real a presence in Union county in the Nineteen Seventies. Though these kinds of claims were routinely used to demonize counterculture groups, the changing social norms in views of drug usage of many nineteen seventies, teens probably lead peers and adult members of the community to blow any strange behavior out of proportion into something much larger than it was. When the hairstyles and clothing choices of some of these young people looked so strange, it's not hard to see how anti normative behavior might have been framed anti-christian occult practices, but it's also worth pointing out that led, which was found in very high levels Internet's body is commonly used in occult rituals. According to some a cultists, it's considered the medal of Resurrection and transformation, and is sometimes used in rituals involving communication with the underworld engine. It was found on a Iraq called devils teeth. It sounded like the kind of place where Satanists would commit a ritual sacrifice. That clip from. Murders highlighted the rumors swirling around the murder of Jeannette. Depalma in addition to the lead evidence, and the discovery of the body on doubles teeth. Some news sources reported that you nets body had been surrounded by strange occult like contracts, and that her corpse was laid upon a Pentagram. The police denied the existence of a Pentagram occult object surrounding the body. But the police statements did not quell the rumors weird. Nj articles published in the early two thousands ramped up the rumors once again. The articles included anonymous statements from residents, claiming to know about the satanic cult that committed the murder and accusing Springfield police of covering up the satanic nature of the crime. Both of the clips played so far have detailed crimes attributed to Satanism, but next we'll hear about the man who literally wrote the book on Satanism. Our final clip is from cults and details, the life of Anton Levay who founded the Church of Satan, in nineteen, sixty six, and wrote its central religious text the Satanic Bible. In, the late nineteen sixties, Levin immersed himself in the Hollywood crowd realm does with the likes of Jayne, Mansfield and liberace. It was during this time that he would meet a future household name in her own right Susan Atkins. During this period, Antonova came into contact with someone else of note future Manson. Family member Susan Atkins in one, thousand, nine, hundred, sixty, seven Anton was curated event called the topless which is review at a San Francisco. Nightspot North Beach. Atkins was working as a stripper at the club when the vase saw her perform. He approached her boss. Mr Garnett about hiring her to perform in the show. Her role was a topless vampire who emerges from a coffin and dances around the stage in Cape. She was immediately struck by Levay. Particularly, his physical appearance at said quote, the man seemed to be dressed entirely in black, his face, and the top of his bald head were extraordinarily Pale White. The intensity of the strangers black is deepened as he watched my movements in quote in reflecting on this time Anton remembered her as just another haight street burnout Levin, said quote. She Beg off for her Cels, saying she had a fever of one hundred eight, but in the end she made a fine vampire and quote a levay invited Atkins back to the black house for gatherings and rituals, and the pair became very close for a short time. During the same period at can spiraled into an endless cycle of alcohol, drugs and casual sex. Her boyfriend at the time expressed. that. Being in LA, based show was negatively affecting her Atkins was not yet involved with the notorious cult leader Charles Manson. It would be two years until she and three other members of the Manson family murdered five people in one bloody night, but in her nineteen seventy seven book child of Satan Child of God Atkins, singles outlive Vay as the catalyst for her downfall. She wrote quote. The show was a smash hit along the Strip Garnett had scored big, but the witch's Sabbath and my total sell-out to LSD marijuana, and has sheesh and to sex with virtually any attractive man landed me in the hospital in four months I was half dead from gonorrhea, and had a complete physical breakdown and quote. In. That clip we heard Church of Satan. Founder Anton La Bays short-lived interactions with Susan Atkins two years after this meeting Susan Atkins and and family members committed several murders including Sharon tate's. SUSAN ATKINS WASN'T OBEYS Manson family filmmaker Kenneth Anger. Who Was Godfather to live as children allowed Bobby Beausoleil to move in with him and cast him in one of his films in the role of Lucifer. But relations between anger and Beausoleil soured, and Beausoleil moved out of the home and allegedly stole the film. Just a year later in nineteen, sixty-nine Beausoleil and Charles Manson killed Gary Hinman, the first death in the series of killings that Manson hoped would spark helter skelter. Today's crime bites highlighted three cases associated with satanism. Any crime related to satanism provokes a media firestorm of rumors and speculation. This was displayed in the clip from unsolved murders, in which murder victim Jeannette Depalma was rumored to be involved in her own satanic ritual murder. In serial killers, David Berkowitz played off fear and misunderstanding around the occult to craft an elaborate hoax about his neighbors possess dog, and in colts we heard from the man who started the Church of Satan himself. Anton Bay, who had loose connections to members of the murderous Manson family Manson took the threads of today's ideas and twisted them into a dark spree of death. Before he murdered Sharon Tate what of Manson's followers proclaimed. I'm the devil I'm here to do the devil's business. Thanks, for tuning into podcast crime bites. We hope you enjoyed this episode on Satanism. We'll be back next week with a new episode on isolation. Why do some criminals sequester victims? And how does it affect them? If you like to listen to the episodes that we discussed today in full, simply search for our PODCAST, original shows, serial killers, unsolved murders or cults on spotify battery to modify already all your favorite music, but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals for free from your phone, desktop or smart speaker. I'll see you next time. Listeners don't forget about the exciting new park. Show that you can only find on spotify. It's called solved murders, true crime mysteries, and it explores the days months, and even years leading up to a kill being caught. It's from the team that brought you unsolved murders. So you know it's going to be riveting new episodes. 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Satanism In Contemporary American Popular Music

ODDDIO Podcast

16:46 min | 1 year ago

Satanism In Contemporary American Popular Music

"You're listening to audio where music meets the weird strange and the unusual take a look into my eyes. You will see who are my name is Lucifer. Please take my hand. Those lyrics from a song called neighb- recorded by Black Sabbath in one thousand nine hundred seventy hi I'm FAO Hsun and today. We'll talk about satanism. In Popular American Music Wikipedia Satanism page states the following prior to the public practice satanism existed primarily as an accusation by various Christian groups toward perceived ideological opponents rather than a self identity religious studies scholars say that the very definition initiative the term has a history of being designation made by people against those whom they dislike. It is a term used for uttering and in the Bible Satan and the word was used as an ordinary noun. Meaning the adversary the terms satanism and Satanist I appear in English and French during the sixteenth century and Satanism didn't become an official religion until nineteen sixty six when the Church of Satan was established by Anton Levay besides being being a philosopher and occultist Levy was a musician who played multiple instruments including the Oregon in addition to his infamous satanic mass album. Other other albums would be released by levay in the nineties. This leveraging of music by the very person who established the Church of Satan made historical sense in context particularly Italy regarding art and entertainment where the concept of Satan has long been used as a symbol of expression. Many classical compositions were said to be vehicle for the the devil particularly due to the use of a specific combination of notes. A unique cord within music itself that was associated with evil. Known as the Devil's record the notes when played together has many other names including Diablo's in New Jersey. GotTa Latin for Devil and music or the devil's interval. The Tri tone the tree and the Flathead v basically. It's a combination of notes that when played together in accord become the musical equivalent of the Hebrew. GBD'S ABC's the court can be found in compositions from Beethoven and Wagner and even jazz composition such as the girl from EPA Nima and the Song Maria from West aside story fender dot com actually gives budding guitarists a tutorial on how to create the devils cord and it serves as a great description of what it is so our read it quote in simple terms tripod or yod is a fifth played. One Fret down to play of latiff with a G.. Power Cord place so your first finger on the third fred of the low e string. That's the root note or the G.. Now put your third finger to frets up on the fifth fret of with the a string. That's the fifth in this case the D. to complete the power cord placed your fourth finger next to your third finger on the next ring over the the destroying. That's the octave of the root note. Another G. strummed together. These three strings create a pleasant sounding. Chord G. D. G.. But but if you take your second finger and played a frat down as a D. Flatt instead of a d. it creates a flat. V when played after the I G or plucked slowly in a g root note G Octave d flat flat v Progression. It creates a dissonant or ugly tone especially with distortion and that that is the devils cord in their infancy. The genres of Blues and Jazz were routinely referred to as the Devil's music partially due to the innate rebellion within the sound and the lyrics themselves but also partially due to an institutionally dehumanized regard of black musicians and black people. In general neural. The devils cord first appeared in rock music when Jimi Hendrix used it in the opening of his classic Song Purple Haze it would later become a staple in the repertoire are black Sabbath. Who are cited as one of the pioneering bands of the heavy metal genre and it would be heavy metal that took the devils cord and ran like a bat out of hell? Oh with it with numerous metal bands. Such as Metallica slipknot and slayer who even named their nineteen ninety eight album. Diab Bula Sin Musica but it was black black Sabbath perhaps more than any other modern band that may the devils core part of American mainstream music the band which like every rock band at at the time was originally rooted in Blues. They first called themselves the Polka Tall Blues Band and then later they call themselves earth it was the latter name Earth Earth that presented a challenge as it was being used by another English group at the same time they were also inspired by nine hundred sixty three horror film called black Sabbath. That started the legendary Boris Karloff. They saw that a local horror movie. Theatre had a line of people waiting to buy tickets and intrigued by the appeal of this type of content. They went ahead head and wrote a song also titled Black Sabbath. The lyrics were based on a horror story and a nightmare. One of the members of the band had these horror movie lyrics combined with the foreboding introduced by the devils core helped the band create an unprecedented experience in music. According to Wikipedia the new sound was a a quote stark contrast to the popular music of the late nineteen sixties which was dominated by a flower power folk music and Hippie culture and an attempt at creating the musical equivalent of horror films and quote the commercial success of this new sound came despite being initially critically panned hand along with marketing stunts such as releasing titles on Friday the thirteen and recording music in dungeons it was clear. The dark side and music was connecting connecting with audiences it would be black Sabbath commercial embrace of the devils cord along with horror and demonic symbolism and themes that influenced every metal act that followed and laid the groundwork for every sub genre from the blackest and truly demonic to grunge to popular bands such as Nirvana van Halen soundgarden and Marilyn Manson this formula. For Commercial Success would be later replicated in another music genre Ajan that that would eventually overtake and Bypass Rock in mainstream popularity rap music fast forward to the nineties. North America is still in the throws of what was called the satanism scare a moral panic brought on by numerous claims of satanic rituals being perpetuated. Along along with murderers and child molestation it is also the time. When Anton levay drops his last two albums and inducted his friend Marilyn Manson as a Minister Minister of the Church of Satan? Shortly before Manson's nineteen ninety four debut album portrait of an American family is released and it is also the golden age of rap. Wrap in one thousand nine hundred ninety three. A young MC known as big L. Steps to the Mike with a song called devil son the lyrics go like this on my skull. The six six six six no tricks when I catch fits. My mom picks up the crucifix. And I killed chumps with the cheapest price. I'm rolling with Satan. Not Jesus Christ iced the late. Big L A brilliant exists to once put the fear of God in house and is unarguably. One of the most underrated emcees of all time talked talked about his inspiration for the lyrics. He said quote of always been a fan of horror flicks class. The things I see in Harlem are very scary so I just put it all together in a rhyme mm-hmm and quote big L.. Would later be cited as one of the pioneers of the rap sub-genre known as horror core a hybrid of Gangsta rap which incorporated horror themes Satanic iconography and shock lyrics and grew in popularity in the late nineties or core would elevate satanic marketing of music to dizzying heights. That rock never did due in part to it being a perfect vehicle for storytelling other pioneering groups included ghetto boys who raised the stakes with extreme violence psychosis and general deranged lyrics that were also based in part on social politics. They would go ahead and influence who wants a generation of rappers and rock artists Marilyn Manson to pop 'em goodie mob. Lil Wayne Rick Ross Insane Clown posse and many more. The sub-genre eventually evolved to mirror and eventually eclipse the evolution and content of heavy metal explicit and masterful lyrics. Were often inspired by horror movies. But this time performed over atmospheric dark rap beats and in the case of Detroit Mc e Sham. It was evil. All double inspired lyrics spat over heavy metal beats each jam credited. As a pioneer of horror core and acid core was heavily influenced -fluenced by death metal. He released his self produced debut album booming words from Hell in one thousand nine hundred ninety when he was only thirteen years old on the album. He depicted the city of Detroit as synonymous with Hell. He would go on to develop a cult following that was outside of the rap genre and referred to as acid rap followers included insane saying clown posse and Eminem who referred to himself as quote a mixture between Manson Isham and Ozzy and quote e Sham was also partially responsible ensemble for starting the more mainstream rap rock giana NRA and influenced groups such as corn and kid. Rock the rapper who is credited for putting the Detroit rap scene on the map APP never broke the mainstream but he did scare people. According to the Metro Times he said quote people were literally scared of my records. They'd get into an accident in and be like I got into an accident because I was playing that tape and quote. Despite his seminal influence each sham remained in the darkness of the underground while other other horror core acts such as the rap supergroup Gravediggaz and six feet deep garnered more popularity but at the apex of this genre was three six mafia afia a Texas group whose name was based on the biblical definition of the mark of the beast as told in the book of revelation they're extremely violent often satanic clearest spin tales of violence that make a clockwork orange. Read like Sesame Street according to Okay player dot com their first single and biggest hit. Stay fly was the subject of strange theory driven by rap forums. The claim was that a sample featured in the chorus of the song which was a songkold. Tommy why has our love turned cold by Willie Hutch was speeded up to sound like a woman singing. You are God you are King Lucifer. Purpose theory was eventually debunked but it illustrated how this group managed to crawl underneath the mass wraps psyche to instill literal fear of the devil with their their music. And when it came to leveraging the public's fascination with horror into sales three six mafia made black Sabbath commercial embrace of Satan to look like a peanut butter and Jelly Sandwich as okay player went on to point out. Despite the impact the music had the group members saw it all is simply characters d'ors that they were portraying with the group's founding member. Dj Paul saying quote we were into Horror Movies and serial killers. It's more like a character. I'd say like Robert Deniro playing the devil or Al Pacino and quote okay player would also go on to say that Paul was raised in a religious family who went to church every Sunday and that he still goes to church Chevy Sunday. The commercial success of three six mafia became even more incredible when they went completely mainstream dream. Something many acts both rock and rap including black Sabbath were never able to fully pull off. They eventually cleaned up their act. Ditching hyper violence and devil worship and changing their name to triple six Mafia. They became the first rap group to win an Academy Award for best original song. It's hard out here for a pimp from the film hustle and flow by now mainstream rap artists also dabbled in devilish imagery take d. m. x.. Fresh from rough riders collective. He releases his number number one debut album titled. It's dark and hell is hot. The follow up is called flesh of my flesh based on another biblical reference involving Jesus Christ in the Last Supper Burger and it featured on the album cover naked and drenched in blood. It also includes a track called Omen Damian to which features a guest appearance from our friend Marilyn Manson today younger artists. Such as Tyler. The Creator tap into the same formula for record sales in his early career before his alternative hip hop collective future gained in popularity. His lyrics drew heavily from horror core. Tyler's embrace of so-called Satanic iconography such such as inverted crosses also fueled rumors. That he was a devil worshipper but his work quickly evolved into more creative expression that crossed boundaries into multimedia art merchandising and Television Tyler was a huge influence on billy Bush who in turn has embraced hellish and demonic vibes in her videos for songs. Like all the good girls go to hell. A two thousand nineteen video which shows her as a winged demon from Hell but is actually a commentary on climate change range like so many of the rap artists. She was inspired by eyelash understands that. Demonic imagery is a surefire way to capture the attention of the public and get a message across us. Also offering a unique message is a twenty one year old. Rapper called saw baby who embraces inverted crosses and the mark of the beast six six six sore all baby started a movement called unknown ISM which is a life philosophy he claims is not about Satan but about empowerment. Ironically the thinking behind unknown own ISM echoes strangely of the Church of Satan philosophy penned by Anton levay believe in Satan as anything more than a symbol of quote pride individualism and Enlightenment Unquote. It would seem that the concept of Satanism and the utilization of Satanic ICONOGRAPHY has come full circle the American mainstream music. What started out as a marketing adventure? morphed into extreme messaging and quickly took on a life of its own today it is very much alive firmly rooted in multiple genres and represents the very thing that it claims. It's not about Satan. The antithesis basis of that which is regarded as the norm. The other the darkness that lurks behind the door underneath the bed and beyond the stair the expansive freedom and consequences of unbridled expression and the brutal communication of experiences is an ideas is alive and thriving in today's mainstream music. Thanks for listening. Folks that a full transcript of this episode along with phrases to Kubo links and more at audio dot com Os de de de I owed dot com and while you're there sign up for official email L. List get first dibs on new. Stop also like it's ride and click notification bow on is e two channel for the latest video registered subsidy of fifty five. Llc Olmert's reserved

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Order of the Nine Angles Pt. 1

Secret Societies

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Order of the Nine Angles Pt. 1

"Due to the graphic nature of this secret societies rituals listener discretion is advised. This episode contains descriptions of Murder Abuse Racist Ideology and sexual acts that some people may find offensive. We advise extreme caution for children under thirteen something else to note all of the groups covered on this show operate in secret the details included in this episode are based on extensive research, but ultimately can never be one hundred percent verified except by society members themselves. In. Two thousand one journalist Nick Lulls walked into a pub in Shropshire. England, he was there to meet David Miot one of the country's most notorious neo Nazis. Looking around the pub lows spotted miot in a corner booth. It look more like a college professor than an armed right wing extremist he had a thick. Beard and wore John Lennon. Beneath a tweed newsboy cap. Without hesitation laws walked to my it's booth and sat down across from him. He had only one thing on his agenda for the meeting to get my it to admit that he was Anton. Long the mysterious leader of the satanist group, the order of nine angles however, despite lulls best efforts might adamantly denied it claiming he had no direct association with the Satanic Group. Finally, the journalists gathered his things to leave. But just as he stood up. It slid an envelope across the table. It had lows name typed across the front curious lows back down and opened it. Inside was a sheet of cream-colored stationery bearing a neatly typed note, the letter accused Lulls of spreading lies and at the very end miot challenged him to a duel. lulls looked up in shock to see that my it had opened his jacket inside was a silver dagger embossed with the insignia of the Nazi ss then. Leaned in and said in a quiet voice, I've been involved in two previous duels and one them both. Hi I'm Vanessa Richardson. I'm Greg Poulsen, and this is secret societies of spotify original from podcast. Every Thursday. We examine history's most exclusive organizations from around the world and try to shine a light on these mysterious groups from the aluminum to the order of nine angles will explore how much impact each secret society actually had on the world around them. This is our first episode on the order of Nine Angles a prominent occult group based in the United Kingdom Mixing Traditional Satanism with Neo, nazism and witchcraft. The group is rumored to have outposts in Europe North America and other continents. This week will look at the origins of the order of nine angles and explore their bizarre beliefs and practices will also investigate their leader a mysterious Anton Long. Next. Week will delve into the organizations legacy around the world will discuss some of the group's members who have been accused of planning terrorist activities and committing murders. Finally, we'll look at how the group has reinvented itself in the age of social media. We have all that and more coming up stay with us. The order of nine angles also called the Owen. A was founded in the nineteen sixties when three neo pagan covens combined in England. Little is known about these groups except that their members worshipped a malevolent goddess and answered to an enigmatic grand mistress. Then at some point in the early seventies, this mysterious woman left the area and moved to Australia paving the way for a new leader to emerge. However many the story surrounding these early days of the Owen a have the ring of mythology. In truth, it's possible. Maybe even likely that the grand mistress and her covens never existed as many sources don't even mention her. Instead researchers suggest that a man known as Anton Long may have actually started the order of nine angles. Some sources state that long fathered a child with the grand mistress of the order before she decamped to. Australia. Whether long founded the O A or was simply an early member by the nineteen seventies heat emerged as the group's leader. Unfortunately, that's where specific details about long Peter out is exact identity remains unknown. Some people believe that long was simply a pseudonym that was used by various Owen a leaders over the years. Others assert that he was the alter ego of well-known British Neo Nazi and occultist David Miot. Miot has steadfastly denied being Anton long even to the point of threatening violence but an analysis of his philosophy and an understanding of his history has led many academics to conclude that long and my it are one in the same for the purposes of this episode will assume that they're right. David Maya was born in one, thousand, nine, hundred fifty and grew up in the Modern Day African nation of Tanzania where his father was a civil servant. Miami also spent part of his Childhood in Singapore there he studied mysticism and martial arts in addition to these varied subjects might loved history especially stories about ancient Sparta. He liked learning about the civilizations, warriors and their regimented disciplined lives coming of age during the early years of manned spaceflight might also developed an interest in physics and astronomy. He came to believe that humanity's destiny lay in colonizing the stars. By his teenage years, Miot had begun to mix all of his various interests together. If there was any hope for humanity to establish the Galactic Empire he dreamed of, he believed that people had to return to the noble austere lifestyle of warriors like the ancient spartans he admired in other words, Miot thought that human beings needed to evolve beyond their present status as pampered weaklings. My, it wasn't done adding to his diverse brew of influences either in nineteen sixty seven, he travelled to England to finish his schooling. Their Maya developed an interest in Alchemy the occult finding them compatible with his ideas about strengthening human consciousness. In pursuit of this Maya join several secret groups that practiced ritual magic hoping this would teach him how to summon demons and other dark forces. It was during this time that might discover the writings of the nineteenth century German philosopher Friedrich. Nietzsche. Nietzsche was well known for his theory of the Uber Mench a superhuman state that he believed all people should aspire to among other things Nietzsche talk that an Uber Manche would move beyond the need for religion by finding meaning in the everyday world. In the nineteen thirties, his ideas were co opted by the Nazi party in Germany as a model for the ideal. Arianne. This racist interpretation of Nietzsche's Uber Mench drew my its interest the most. In nineteen, sixty nine, he witnessed a street fight between skinheads and left-wing protesters watching the violence play out my it immediately felt an affinity with the skinheads viewing them as Noble Nici and warriors fighting against powerful establishment enemies. Inspired Maya joined to Neo Nazi crew called the British Movement of this club. He would later state to me Adolf Hitler and his movement seemed to embody some of the ideals I believed. Magic should achieve. They seem to represent a satanic spirit in urge to conquer. Perhaps, in pursuit of this urge to conquer, it became more politically involved in the early seventies. He wrote treatises attended protests and gave political speeches on behalf of the British movement, and then for his own far right hate group the National Democratic Freedom Movement in addition he continued his exploration of Magic and the occult according to some scholars. This is how miot I stumbled across the order of nine angles. According to its own legends the Owen emerged in an area of western England, known as the Welsh marches in the prehistoric past it was populated by native Britons whose ancestors came to England during the Ice Age. In the intervening Millennia, however, several tribes carved out their own territories and set up altars to worship there many disparate God's. One of these deities was a violent and sinister goddess after Christianity began to replace the ancient pagan religions of the native Britons. A members believed that worship of this unnamed deity continued in secret with devotees passing her rituals down through the generations at some point in these years, the order of nine angles allegedly sprang out of this tradition. In nineteen seventy-three Miot met the woman who is leading Owen A and was initiated into the group soon, after might was writing for the order under the pseudonym Anton. Long. He might have chosen this monitor because of its similarity to the name of the most infamous satanist in the World Anton Louet. Anton Levay was an American who headed the Church of Satan his organization regarded the devil as a metaphor for anti-establishment behaviour as an atheist he dismissed theism all forms as well as any sort of afterlife instead levay promoted. Satanism. As a form of rational thought that focused on improving the self. However love as brand of satanism would soon take on more sinister associations in the wake of the nineteen sixty-nine Manson family murders many associated the violence with the Church of Satan Jay sebring who was killed alongside Sharon tate was said to have been a member of the group and one of the Manson family killers Susan Atkins had participated in a theatrical ritual with Llovei though Levine himself never claimed to be connected to the grisly murders. Outsiders found it easy to believe that his black magic infused religion inspired them. It's no surprise. Then that everyday people found Levin distressing my on the other hand seemed to find him both mainstream and shallow. He didn't accept the Bays metaphorical conception of Satanism, and he was dissatisfied with the other occult groups he had found. According to historian, Nicholas Good Rick Clark Miot was looking for something more exciting, dangerous, and truly evil. My also likely rejected LE`veon's brand of satanism because Levine was ethnically Jewish. Since my it was a neo Nazi, he would have naturally dismissed the group Levin founded as a Jewish absurdity. Then in his alter ego as Anton long might set about creating an alternative in his group Satan be some sort of metaphorical simple they would. Worship the dark lord as a Deity Miot believe that this would allow them to tap into the evil forces that promoted individual growth and strength. As the leader of the order of nine angles might also established a set of doctrines and training regiments for new recruits. He developed rituals, unpublished news books and pamphlets to draw in converts. It's unclear if he had success expanding the group's membership, some sources suggests that the order consisted mainly of Maya ten a few dedicated disciples until the nineteen nineties. Owen as magazines in the eighties and nineties had several hundred readers. Others argue that my it oversaw the establishment of several Owen, a temples throughout England during this period. What is certain however is that during these years, the Owen a functioned as the esoteric wing at the broader Neo Nazi movement in England. Miot knew that some people who were tracked into Magic and the occult were also sympathetic to radical political philosophies. So he likely used the Owen A to indoctrinate followers with his neo Nazi worldview. To that end much of the Owen as early literature and rituals centered around not system and the sanctification of out of Hitler. Wants a church service might devised called. The massive heresy even included an alter that contained swastikas a photograph of Hitler and a copy of his book Mein Calm. During the ceremony adherence chanted, we believe Adolf Hitler was sent by our Gods to guide us to greatness we believe in the inequality of the races and in the rights of the Arians to live according to the laws of the folk. This was only the beginning in combining Neo Nazi precepts with Satanism Maya created a religion of such evil that it went beyond the bizarre into the outright criminal. Coming up will witness the ONA's terrifying ceremony of recalling. Listeners I have a surprising new trick for you. You know you can find love and a bar or on an APP why not a podcast in blind dating the new spotify original from podcast we're expanding the places you can meet your match with a twist he'll never see coming. Every Wednesday youtuber and host Terry Michelle introduces one hopeful single to two strangers in a voice only call. Through a series of illuminating games in questions the trio finds all the sweet this and awkwardness of for state minus the distraction of appearances. But once are hopeful single chooses their match. The cameras are turned on and it's either butterflies or goodbye. 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Head to SIMPLISAFE DOT COM slash secret to get a free HD camera that simply safe dot com slash secret to make sure they know that our show sent you. Now. Back to the story. In the late nineteen, sixty s or early nineteen seventies neo Nazi organizer David Miot founded the order of nine angles under the pseudonym Anton Long. Under my it stewardship, the group Combined Satanism with Neo Nazi ideologies, which might called National Socialism. Then they publish documents to attract more followers. These new members were taught. The ONA's core ideology that the world was divided between two distinct realms. The I was the causal realm or the natural world. We all inhabit where the laws of physics prevailed and reality could be observed and tested. The. Second World that might taught about was the causal realm as the name implied it was the dark opposite of the real world, a supernatural place where the laws of science were meaningless and sinister chaotic forces ruled. An. Practitioners goal was to become president in this a causal realm in order to harness its energy according to my it the a causal plane could then be used to effect change in the real world. This is where magic and sorcery came into play. A literature stated that there were three kinds of magic. The first external magic is what most people think of when they envisioned sorcery. It requires ceremonial rituals done by groups of magicians and include spells for specific purposes. The second form of magic was an internal version of the first, which could be performed alone or with one other practitioner as religious studies. Professor Connell Monette stated this form focused on the transformation of the sorcerer from something human to something alien. In other words, it allowed the practitioner to attain the Nichii an Uber, Manche ideal of self mastery and godlike wisdom and to become possessed by non-human for says. The final form of Owen, a magic called jahic magic attempted to use sorcery to create social change. This was a demonic version of societal disruption and transformation much like what the Nazis attempted, but with the addition of magic rituals, supposedly only the highest ranking members of the order were powerful enough practice this. Might combining magic with real world actions such as terrorism, assault, and political provocation. The ONA sought to disrupt society from within lay believe that this guerilla form of warfare would be much more difficult to stamp out. To that end beginner adherents were encouraged to commit crimes and wreak havoc as for Owen as advanced practitioners. They were busy trying to use dark magic to unleash the a causal realms sinister forces. It was this task that largely occupied David Miot he worked hard to develop a specific system to teach adherents how to harness the console realms power to bring about change in the natural world. My it called this method, the sevenfold sinister way. Owen a members at the first level were called neophytes. This stage was mostly about reading group materials and learning about the basics of Owen beliefs and practice. The second Owen a level was the stage of the initiate in addition to studying magic initiates were also required to complete a demanding physical task. One option involved walking thirty two miles in hilly terrain in less than seven hours. Lastly, in this year, it's required, find a partner, introduce them to the dark arts and then complete sexual rituals with them according to own a literature. The purpose of this stage was to awaken the darker sinister aspects of the psyche to increase a person's capacity for evil. The next level on the win a hierarchy involved becoming an external adept. At this point, the practitioner had to create a local chapter which the Owen a called a next John to recruit new members. In order to be considered legitimate, the external adept news after had to remain active for at least six months. In this time, they were required to perform regular rituals one of which was called the ceremony of recalling details about the specific gathering were written down in an Owen, a text known as the grim war of bath met. In the Early Fourteenth Century, the Knights Templar were accused of worshiping Batum at a dark. God. who was frequently depicted as a goat headed creature and thought to symbolize Satan. The Owen a however taught bathroom. It was a goddess both the mother and bride of Satan they described her as a violent entity to whom human sacrifices should be made. However in order to make a bloody offering, Tabatha Matt Owen a members I needed to summon the goddess into the every day causal realm. The best way they could do this was by performing the ceremony of the recalling. If, you were an a practitioner attending this ritual. It would be an experience you would never forget. You're standing at a small group of your brothers and sisters and a large wooded area. There are torches all around their light making up for the fating. Day. Ahead you can see a series of carefully placed stones. Wonder. At the significance of their strategic placement, you see people walking through the woods towards you and your brethren. Immediately that the first person is the Guardian. He wears the characteristic black robe of the role with a white mask covering his face in his ceremonial white robe the priest follows obediently behind him. The priestess rounds out the procession. She has on a red robe with a white sash across the middle. Suddenly she speeds up and you notice she has a blindfold in her hand as you watch the priestess carefully play-set around the priests is. With his vision restricted the priestess leads him to each congregation member for the ceremonial kiss. When it's your turn, you lean forward and peck the priest on each cheek noting how cold his skin is despite the warm evening error. Then you watch as the priestess leads the Priest into the circle of stones where the master and mistress of the temple are waiting. On being beckoned you and the rest of the Tannock congregation follow. You all slow down at the site of a large wooden altar. It sits at the head of the circle line by rows of red candles you watch as the black robed master moves to stand in front of the priest you're moved as you listened him chant several magical words repeating each invocation three times. At the conclusion of these incantations you in the congregation step forward to surround the blindfolded priest. Then you all walk slowly counterclockwise intoning the Latin words of the Diablo loose a black mass ritual chant. As your chanting escalates in volume the Guardian as the priests on the altar between the flickering red candles you watch the mistress carefully removes the priests garment then taking a flask filled with oil she pours it over his naked body anointing him when she's finished, she removes his blindfold. Now you and your fellow initiate step forward and chant the Diab loose again moving counterclockwise around the circle of stones you watch as the priests is shot and his breaths become slow and deep. As you continue walking around the circle, the mistress and the priestess, each removed their robes. Then the priestess begins performing oral sex on the priest when she finishes the Guardian List the priest and places him on his knees in front of the priestess. At the same time, the master kneels before the mistress. Then, the master and priests speak in tandem saying I, put my kisses at your feet and kneel before you who crushes your enemies. The mistress and the Priestess respond kiss me and I shall make you as an eagle to its prey touch me and I shall make you as a strong sword that severs stains my earth with blood. Moved by the power of the moment you and the rest of the congregation continued to circulate and chant all the While you watch as the priest, the priestess, the master, and the mistress begin having sex in front of the altar. With the ritual act is over the guarding approaches the priest and carefully places a hood over his head. Then he binds priests, ankles and wrists and lays on the altar once again. Though you're chanting and walking caught up in the moment you watch as the master takes the sacred knife then he waits for a signal from the mistress. When she gives it, you stare unflinching as the master presses the blade into the priests neck and slice it open with a swift practiced movement killing him. As the blood runs over the altar, her the master catches some of it. In the Empty Chalice, you know that he will save the priest blood for use in the sacred wheat cakes that the congregation will eat at the next new moon. For now you and the rest of the members gather in front of the altar watching as the Guardian drags the priest's body away. In his absence, the mistress picks up the sacred knife and pointed at the master saying so you have sown and from your seating gifts may come over. He the words I speak. Then she dips the end of the knife in the chalice and taps it against each congregants forehead. When the Blade touches your head, you feel the smear of the prese warm blood against your skin. After the anointing the mistress speaks again. I know you and all the thoughts within your hearts yet not one of you is as hateful or as loving as I with a glance, I can strike you dead. Then again, she goes to each member of the congregation and his them on the lips but this time she also removes their robes stripping them naked after she takes off your clothes she offers you the second chalice full of red wine. You feel a surge go through your body during the ritual slaying she channeled her deeply honed skill of sinister empathy. This allowed her to summon the dark goddess, and now by giving you the wine she is signifying that she is chosen you to be the vessel that will carry bathroom at spirit. You are honored to be the Chosen One. You take a sip of the wine and then hand it back to the mistress. She passes it around to each of the other members after one final invocation you and the mistress consummate the ceremony by having sex. When you finish the Guardian passes more wind around, and then finally the ceremony ends with an alcohol and marijuana. Ritual Orgy. Smaller chapters of the order of nine angles are said to have performed truncated version of this ceremony. Those abridged rituals didn't include a human sacrifice however according to Owen a documents the larger chapters ritualistically kill one of their willing members. Fortunately, this gruesome ceremony was only performed. Once every seventeen years, its purpose was to summon the power bath met with her might the believed could create chaos in the real world and even spark wars. The ceremony of recalling had one more disturbing feature. If an NA chapter after failed to find a member who was willing to be ritualistically sacrificed, they were encouraged to find an unwilling person from the general public to kill this sinister practice was called calling. Coming up, we'll explore this dark and disturbing tradition. This episode is brought to you by go daddy. As we reopen. 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The order of nine angles followed a theology that broke the world into two distinct planes, the causal realm of ordinary experience and the a causal realm of dark supernatural for says. The goal of the Owen, a was to harness the power of the a causal realm so that they could affect change in the real world. The Way to achieve that objective was to follow the sevenfold sinister way which included practicing acts of violence, endurance and ritual sacrifice. Beginning at the stage of external adept practitioners of Owen, a had to learn the art of sacrificial murder to that end they were tasked with choosing victims called offers from among the general population. In a treatise titled Concerning calling as an Art David Miot in his guys Anton Long wrote some humans by nature by character are rotten worthless and when this rotten character is revealed by their deeds, it is beneficial to remove them to call them. For, my a rotten person was a weakling who lacked honor, this was an overly broad definition meaning that lists politicians or even a member of another satanist organization could qualify as targets. However Owen a practitioners didn't call people at random instead the group's literature dictated to ways to choose victim. The first way involved masters and mistresses. Eating entire groups of people as being acceptable for calling their choice was usually discriminatory based on ethnic cultural racial or religious grounds. Once a group was given opera status. Any member of it could be murdered without further question of this Miot wrote it is legitimate and indeed a satanic duty to call an individual or many individuals from such a group. In. The case of choosing individual obverse weren't part of a condemned group. Owen a members had developed tests to determine if target was sufficiently rotten. Such trial involved sending a female member to flirt with a male target. If he succumbed to her advances and ask for a date, then she would suggest time and place to meet preferably in a relatively deserted area. At the appointed time, she would approach the man ensuring that he saw her coming. Then right before she got to him to male ONA members would jump out of a car and attack her pretending to be muggers rapists. The targets reaction would determine whether or not. He passed the test if he ran to her rescue physically intervening and showing his bravery than he was safe however, if he fled or didn't help her, he proved himself a coward. However, the Owen often gave the potential opt for a second test to verify if his weakness warranted calling. It was only if he failed the second trial that he was deemed suitable for human sacrifice. And that point own a members could make one of three choices. They could simply kill the opt for disguising his death as a run of the mill accident or they could perform a ceremony called the death ritual. In this right Oh na, members use magic to place a fatal curse on the offer thus eventually ending his life despite the unlikeliness of this scenario Owen, a writings claimed that a journalist who was cursed in the nineteen seventies developed a terminal illness and died. The last way uppers were called based on what we can assume from documents was my forcing them to participate in the ceremony of recalling in these situations that chosen victim would be kidnapped made to stand in for the priest and then be ritualistically sacrificed. Culling served at least two main purposes for the O. N. A. I. It was a vital part of the sevenfold sinister way helping members connect with and learn to harness the causal realms evil? Energy. Second served as an essential function in the real world my eliminating weaklings. The ultimate question though is whether the O. N. A. Actually followed through with any of these teachings. The groups, many writings if the ceremony of recalling took place, there's no evidence that any real sacrifice ever occurred. Of course that didn't mean it didn't happen people disappear all the time. It's entirely possible that a long forgotten missing person case could be explained by an Owen a calling. Still went scholar Connell Monette interviewed several members for his. Book Mysticism in the twenty first century all of them insisted that they never carried out a human sacrifice ritual. However in personal correspondence with Monette Miot writing his Anton long contradicted that stating some traditional next John's known to me do practice ritualized culling some only every seventeen years or so and others called victims in their own individual non ritualized manner. What my it called a non ritualized manner might have been a different and more terrifying form of sacrifice. According, to Monette some Owen members joined the police or the military to carry out legalized killings as a form of calling the unworthy. Whatever the real truth is mastering. The Art of culling was a requirement for third stage of the sevenfold sinister way once that was achieved, the external adept was ready to graduate to the next stage and become an. Adept This fourth level typically lasted anywhere from five to eleven years it involves more intensive study into sorcery and self mastery. In addition at this stage, more extreme physical demands were required pushing the Owen a practitioner towards maximum levels of fitness. The. Internal adept was also required to spend at least one season in total isolation honing their connection to the interior world and showing their independence from society. After completing all the tasks of the fourth stage the internal adept became a master or mistress moving onto the fifth stage. At this level a master or mistress had to lead a chapter of the Owen. A guiding members along the sevenfold, way. They also allegedly used sorcery especially eon magic to summon dark forces from the Causal Realm to bring about societal change. Few people ever reached the fifth stage and even fewer moved beyond it. For that reason n a literature claimed that only one or two people per century reached the sixth stage that of the grand master or grand mistress. Own Publications don't give information about expectations at this level. However, from what we understand about the Croup, we can surmise that grant masters or mistresses were likely in charge of the entire organization. David Miot in says Anton long was probably considered a grandmaster however, not even he reached the final level of the sevenfold way. The last stage was called the path of the immortal since it's unlikely. Anyone ever reached it information about this level is scarce. However, the name seems to suggest that ONA practitioners who achieved this stage would become gods. This was the end game the longed for motive behind all the as mystical feats practitioners hope that their rituals, ceremonies and adherence to the Sevenfold Bay would help them pursue their goal of Aryan supremacy. According to David Miot every human age destiny driven by a unique kind of a causal energy. He believed a nazi-inspired society was the future of Western civilization. However, my it taught that forces which he called Nazarene or Meiji and energies sought to halt the rise of this. Satanic. Rain. In short miot preached that Judeo Christian beliefs, democracy humanism man capitalism threatened the ultimate satanic destiny of Western civilization. For that reason, he argued that the rise of Fascism in the nineteen thirties was a good thing stating Nazi Germany was an expression of satanic spirit. It was a burst of Loucif fury in light of Zest and power. Though Fascism was ultimately defeated might believed it opened a gateway to the a causal world allowing for the emergence of Satanic Power. He taught his followers that practitioners of the sevenfold sinister way could harness that power and by performing their rituals and sorcery miot preach that ONA members could magically usher in a new version of Hitler's Third Reich. According to Owen Literature, it was at this point that a messiah like figure called vendex would appear on earth. After, his arrival ve index would usher in a series long period of Aryan rule power and prestige that he called the imperium at the end of this era of prosperity and progress he would lead humanity of planet earth and help them to colonize the solar system. For the members of the order of nine angles, intergalactic domination represented the final and dramatic triumph of Evil Satanic. Virtue. However, as they waited for indexes arrival miot encouraged. Initiates to prepare for this final era by committing grievous crimes judging by the violence instigated by Owen extremis over the last decade members are taking miot suggestion very seriously indeed. Thanks again for tuning into secret societies, we'll be back on Thursday with part two where we'll continue our investigation of the order of nine angles examined the way some of the group's members have attempted to put their violent philosophy into practice. You can find all episodes of secret societies and all other podcast originals for free on spotify. Not, only to spotify all ready have all of your favorite music. But now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy all of your favorite podcast originals like secret societies for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker. To Stream secret societies on spotify, just open the APP and type secret societies in the. Search. Bar. We'll see you next time. 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"Fred stood out you heretic. I'm dan i'm doug and this is your users guide to life on the outside yes sir. Leaving religion is the first step into a larger better world of abuts. it can also be a scary world things differently. Now never fear. That's why we're here. We're your audio and with help from good friends and experts all sorts of fields. We're gonna share the stories and seek the knowledge to build a great life after all. You only get the one that we know so you better making gentlemen. Hello hello hello. How are you hope. I'll just just so so good. Good i i am reaching out to you from my 'isolation my solitary in tower in toronto in it's wonderful by that's right i look at this. I can actually leave the room that i'm in. I unlike you cannot under under federal mandates soon enough soon enough anyway. What a show despite us being a divided by border we are not divided by anything else. I don't know what that means. But today i am going to talk about some very scary geometry. I however am going to talk about a cool guy in a really really stupid book. The accidental hero of a book. Right exactly yeah. And then i am going to take on the anti vaccine movement a they exist so quick note. We realized that we all had so much great information this week. We're running really long so to any patrons who jumped in this past week and i know we have. We haven't i know we have to. We want to beg your indulgence to push that off till next week and we will give you all the love then but we just wanna keep the show under twelve hours today. So yeah if everybody's cool with that. Let's do it uncle dan. Well hello You know when. I when i was younger and i was in elementary school. Think maybe junior high school. I read the quote by lincoln about better angles of our of our character and i never heard it spoken out loud so for several years i was left trying to figure out what exactly that meant. You got the wind. You got the one under your arm and then the elbow one just assume that whatever angle you have you wanna make sure it's a right one. Yeah he was very into ninety degrees. But i think oncle marquez. Some something to talk about the not so great angles. He's are not the great angles. These are not the better angels of our nature. Let me tell you so you know we try to have some fun on this. Show guys we. We try to laugh at the absurd and silly every chance we get. That's great but sometimes when you sit out to make a podcast about the comedic side of cults and craziness the colts and craziness outweighs the comedy just a little bit and while there is some funny stuff about today's very peculiar subject. There is some very very not funny stuff about it as well. So let's laugh and then let's talk for a while Content warning there are references to sexual violence and sexual violence against children in this segment. Help me if this is another anthill thing. I am leaving the podcast. It feels like it's gonna go that way but it doesn't go all the way there. So hey yeah so. It's not graphic descriptions like it was with the hill kids just a mention of it so but it's kind of impossible to tell the story without it so be warned so we've talked before on the show about the satanic panic that not really over nationwide hysteria of the nineteen eighties and nineties. That drove this city at country. Well that one. I'm not there at the moment. I'm in canada. Out of its uptight. Mind and saw masses of false accusations arrests imprisonments and other assorted bullshit for a primer on. Please refer back to episode twenty three well sort of satanists that actually rape kidnap and murder people at random that were the shadowy villains for this decades long long. Cultural nightmare didn't really exist but a pin that for just a minute. The sweetness that were around were mostly adherence and imitators of the church of satan. The brainchild of the hard to take seriously anton levay the church of saint was really instill as just another expression of sixties counterculture and Rejection of the stuffy conservative stifling american culture that preceded it The church of satan is mostly a hedonistic movement of pure individuality inspired by among others. The works of ayn rand you can listen to doug segment on her. What a wonderful person. She wasn't episode ninety and while many accused them of being kind sexist and pricks online. They aren't kidnapping anyone's babies for human sacrifices in the forest. That's not who they are right and more recently. Of course most people will be familiar with the satanic temple featured in last year's wonderful documentary hail satan and co founded by lucian greaves whom we spoke to an episode sixteen loosen in the satanic temple are the farthest thing from the murderous cannibals haunting the long dark american night of the nineteen eighty s. They are in fact. Merry pranksters and first amendment heroes haunting southern and square state legislatures with their truck mounted bathroom at statue trying to fend off the worst accesses of creeping christian nationalism child-murdering bad guys. They are certainly not that we know about that. We lucian. you've been served your on blast. Keep it tight lucien. they They they've used our -rageous religion prison religious presumptions in this country as an act of judo. Against those who ceaselessly abuse it so well played the satanic temple. Well remember when. I said those be movies satanic warlocks who kill and rape at random didn't exist. Well it turns out they kind of do and just to give the devils lily. Aren't madly violent. Nazis isn't that fun guys get. You had me at ardent madly violent nazi. So today we pay a visit to the satanic that could cause that should cause some panics. The order of nine angles or the oh nine a. If you're nasty. The order of nine angles is a pretty weird little outfit for a variety of reasons. The semi mysterious people that have authored. It's literatures literature and occasionally spoken for it have purposely surrounded it in loads of mystery and autobiographical legend alleged to have been founded in the late sixties by an unnamed woman in the west of england when she brought together three separate satanic temples and covens in the early seventies. a man who called himself anton long joined and in short order had risen through. Its ranks. those being neophyte initiate external adapt internal adept master grandmaster and immortal to become its master longhand wrote thousands of pages laying out the philosophy and magical with a k. practices defining the order as a highly secretive left hand path practice to reach the gods of the a causal room. It's a morpheus anarchistic and totally decentralized they follow what's called the path matthaus the path of suffering to come to know themselves to become masters of the causal realm and eventually masters of the aac causal realm as. Well i shall explain below. It wasn't really until the nineteen eighties. The oh nine. A really even made itself known by publishing articles in already existing occultist. And far right nationalist magazines it also began distributing its founding scriptures most notably the black book of satan and its own magazine ferrier named for the fierce wolf of norse mythology much of the literature was written by anton long and an artist and musician who went by christos beast but has been identified as richard moult. I should also also note that. Most scholars and journalists who studied nine a far more than i have identify anton long as very fascinating and peculiar man whose real name is david miot some disagree including my it himself who vehemently denies any association with the oh nine a going so far as to challenge journalist who said he was to a duel with the nazi dagger. Sound like something someone from the. Oh nine eight i mean. That's just he protested to little but the preponderance of evidence seems to support. It is in fact my it. But we'll call him anton long for for the most part in here Unlike the church of satan or the satanic temple the order of nine angles very much believe in the theistic evil satan and with him pantheon of so-called dark dodds including a sinisterly female version of baffled. Matt who in their version looks very much like the hindu god of destruction kali Who will bring about a violent revolution that allows for a new system of racially superior tribal warlord governments called the imperium and that golden age of hellish violence and total destruction of the former magin nazarene as they call it basically their term for judeo-christian of the magic nazarene order that has enfeebled and poisoned the natural violence of the human spirit preventing ascendancy to uber manche. And then in this mad max. Version of the future will set out to conquer and colonize. The galaxy led by the dark lord. The dark. god vindicates into a neo-pagan hitlerian interstellar satanic eternity. You had vendex. Where do i sign. That was a that was quite a sentence. A lot Yeah i was trying to distill it down to the the essence. And i think i got there so i think so. I didn't understand any of what you said. But i think you nailed it so the oneida believes there have been five aons of men each one lasting around two thousand years the primal the hyper boren for some more. Wholesome nazi content. Check out our segment on hyper-area episode one forty eight the sumerian the hellenistic and the current one. The western each ends and a few hundred years of increased authoritarianism and militarism and this a owns period of dictatorship they predict will begin sometime between nineteen ninety and two thousand eleven and will ask them tell twenty three ninety so any minute ten years ago now right at that point will You know up until this year. It seems like they kind of had a guy you know he figures very very prominently with a lot of these neo nazi satanic people like trump really. They saw as the guy which should come as no surprise. So at that point we'll we'll commence the sixth grade age. The a on a fire their own new satanic timescale begins in the year eighteen eighty nine. The birth year of middling watercolor colorist turned eager. European real estate tycoon adolf hitler. They have praised hitler's reich. As quote a practical expression of satanic spirit. a burst of lusa therrien lights obssessed in power in an otherwise nazarene pacified. Boring world. boy. I never thought i would hear the word zesty applied to the third reich. Yeah citrusy also nazarene being used like i'd or whatever is an interesting phrasing nazarene bay just weakened us it made us all feeble and weirdly for jew hyper violent racists. They are adamant in their holocaust. Denial saying it was a myth constructed by the magin nazarene world order to denigrate the nazis and therefore discredit them. It's so weird to me. How some of the most rabid neo nazis who foment for another holocaust feel the need to deny the actual one. Yeah no it's so crazy. So people in occult circles used to joke about the The order of nine angles of night angles as the order of no members Which is funny and true because they may be had a dozen members for a decade or more. Some people think as few as five but this gets to part of what is so different about them. They weren't really looking for any not in the normal cult since they flew almost entirely under the radar other than then my it slash anton long. They really have no leader pretty much. All their literature is available for free. They don't want money they don't want to meet you. They may be the most uncut like called. I've ever study so remember when we had my friend former Undercover fbi agent. Greg rogers on the show in episode one fifty four when dan talked to him about operation underground railroad and all the bullshit around human trafficking myths. We remember our secret. Asian man well in his career at the bureau. One of his beats was taken down. American neo nazis and he took down a lot of them And i asked him how he could keep doing it again. And again and they never got wise to it. He said it was because a they were fucking stupid and be. They were so preoccupied with taking power over whatever small group they were in so bitterly hateful of all the other groups and so consumed with infighting. They never thought to make a website where they could post all the pictures of the fed's that we're taking them down right right. i just. I couldn't believe they weren't comparing notes. Said they hate each other. The order the order of nine angles seems totally immune to any of that. There's no leadership to usurp. There's no money to embezzle. there's no power to be had by taking control called death. Ribs are just boring not boring. that's for sure cold. Expert steve. Hassen says the motivation behind cults is always some combination of money sex and power right but none of that really exists here it. It's really kind of a free open source radical ideology concocted by true believers and just left out on the dusky edge of society's view for anyone to find fucking hiep's according to china's own faq page on their ancient wordpress website. I i did promise a little bit of comedy her when when when one finds their literature one should do what they want with it if they want to become a member. They don't really have membership so they wanna become associated grape That's what they call them. People who are connected to them are just associates right right It's like gig satanism. But you're you're free to interpret it your own way or even start your own temple. Notice nexen on or not. It's up to you right and when you do that. There's no fees there's that you don't have to buy anything. It's very strange. So should you decide to actually live by the groups of what they call sevenfold. Who initiates you. Well you do dummy. And it's rather fucking tents one of the easiest. Initiation rituals is finding a secluded wild spot and laying there for an entire night without sleeping or even moving okay. Most people could probably do that. Another is to live into wilderness with zero contact with anyone with anyone else for six months the ritual of the. Yeah i have the rich. We've all seen the show alone. I don't think it's going to happen for most people at right. The ritual of the abyss has one living totally alone again this time in the depths of a cave for a month another. You're finding these caves i. There's they're they're they're here about Another is to walk alone over rough terrain covering three hundred miles in just fifteen days twenty miles a day. Which is that's dirty substantial for two weeks all this. Do you get your nazi merit badge. Well here's the other thing that's really fascinating about it. It's nobody checks funds. They have this dedication to this radical self honesty. And you've if you didn't if you didn't do it you know you failed and that's enough right. It's really fascinating. So this is some next level commitment and all you have to do to become a moment. This have the bad luck of turning eight and casserole country right right so it gets. It gets even more intense. Once you've passed those hermetic mind breaking tests. You're ready for what they call an insight role that means doing something so outside any experience you've ever had or joining a group never would have considered for at least six and up to eighteen months. It could be joining the police or the military traveling around the world on foot without dollar begging and stealing to do it joining isis seriously. You know normal gap here kind of things. Yeah this sounds. A lot. Like batman begins like a little bit does. It's like this evil kind of samurai coda right this. It's it's very. It's highly disciplined also not learning to make a lot of sense that they had no members that that part starting to make way more sense to me very few people can can pass these crucibles right or would want to or want to but some do so getting comfortable with violence and weapons training ceteris pretty normal neo nazi fair but specifically for the order of nine angles it serves a purpose called calling specifically calling of offers which is the german word for victims part of the rite of passage in self development for someone following the nine oneida paths is ritually ridding the species of unworthy garbage. This is literally part of their doctrine as laid out in several publications including a guide to human sacrifice calling a guide to sacrifice part to and victims a sinister expose and guidelines for testing of offers. You see these guys aren't just nihilist. Say what you will about the tenants of national socialism dude. At least it's an ethos right an opt for must quote self. Select what they don't. They don't know that they're being tested. But they are being watched and when an up for is called not only. Is the species less filthy but it meant like in many cannibal cultures. The murderer inherits the life force of the victim bringing them closer to being the adila uber match. The uber rich. This is not okay. Nothing nothing that's happening is is okay. No and it doesn't get better and more than a few targeted uppers have indeed been cold meaning fucking murdered by order of nine angles. Initiates more on that tick in preparation for the segment. I read many articles than one very interesting one just on neo-fascist generally in the online journal belling cat dot com by robert evans. He as an excellent quote here that could apply to so many of the segments. We do about this stuff. I should note that one of the more frustrating elements about covering the fastest right. Is that much of what they say. Sounds ridiculous and makes them appear less than serious. This is why it is important to remember that these groups have a body count and represent a real threat. There absurdity does not negate their danger and there is some silly shit about the order of nine angles. Like the fact they can't or won't get their story straight about how they got their name or that one of their most important rituals is a board game called the game of stars. They they think of it as something like the lament cube from hellraiser like a puzzle that opens up the membrane between the causal world and the acosta world Where the dark gods live. But you laugh if you see it. Because it's exactly spock's multilevel chessboard from the old star trek series right silly but these people are deadly fucking serious bright. The goal of china is chaos. Pandemonium rape murder criminality and the total implosion of the magin nazarene order to bring about the anna fire to quote from an official oh nine. Publication to acts of assault are most commonly recommended lynching and sexual assault. Jesus they ardently encourage rape as terrorism. They are also one hundred percent pro. Violent pedophilia again as a vehicle. Not only for terror and chaos but in assertion of the superior will of nine a associate to dominate the weak and the useless god. Yeah we can the useless meaning children children. Of course they are. I mean they are weak and useless in another publication. It says children must never be cold. So they they have guys ethics. They don't know they just believe they can be raped will Week so the founder of the main us us order of nine angles. next a called. The temple of blood of his lovie is a guy. Guy named joshua caleb sutter who was a real peach in addition to fashioning himself as a hyper pro north korean propagandist among a few other daffyd he was actually contacted by north korean intelligence and they were working with him and at some point they decided his just fucked in the head tweet. The north koreans are like nope can't do business with this guy among a few other daffy things he wrote a bit of ona a nine hundred nazi fanfest called iron gates. It's horrific both in envision and grammar suffices suffice it to say it paints a sloppy but nightmarish. John mcnaughton style portrait of the future. The order of nine angles wishes to foment mass murder of the intervention and endless days of child rape and torture in service of the triumph of mediocre white men. This salacious future has become an inspiration to the violent neo. Fascist paramilitary the atom waffen division whose rallying cry is iron gates. Now right so that's the future. They want horrific of course stupid without question but it has ignited the passions of more than a few hyper-violent motherfuckers everywhere. Here in america we have a lot of violent neo nazi movements. Most like my friend. Greg said are fucking idiots. Who are more likely to blow their own brains out by mistake than they are to hurt anyone else but some are not just. Here's your some of the crimes and on long's ona. Eight nine tax inspired david david copeland to play several nail bombs around the areas in london frequented by gay and immigrant communities in nineteen ninety. Nine nailbombs killed three people and injured a hundred and forty others. The british anti fast fascist group hope not hate records at least six oneida associates being prosecuted for terrorism. Twenty twenty alone here in toronto and associate of the order quote cold to south asian men who had nothing to do with anything by stabbing them in the throats in the states. Order devotee jared. William smith and army specialist was charged with leaking classified material on high explosives and weapons of mass destruction in order to kill federal agents for quote the glory of his neck religion another. Us soldier ethan. Meltzer stationed at. Us based in italy passed on information to help oneida members and an affiliated group called the rape waffen division. Who are exactly as they sound. God to ambush and kill as many of his fellow soldiers as possible. Luckily the plow stopped. He's facing life in prison of his arrest. Exposed other order associates within the military including one station in kuwait and one of the national guard who intended to use his presence at the george floyd protests last summer to start a satanic racial holy war by crazy piece of luck. He was apprehended before he can start shooting. He was also a member of the Oneida affiliated rape waffen division. That i mentioned a terror group hell bent on using rape as a weapon there. Several more known cases of murder and attempt and attempted murder and terrorism connected to the order of nine angles and groups. They have major influence over like the atom waffen division national action the sonnen craig division and the nordic resistance movement now as the order is declared not only pro human sacrifice pro rape and pro sexual violence directed at children. You may have correctly surmised that when one of the oh nine a is run to ground by the authorities. They are very likely to be in possession of a lot of images of child pornography and child rape no need to dwell any further on that but it seems to be standard equipment for apprehended associates including a teenager. Who is the youngest person ever charged with terrorism in the uk. I think he was fifteen. So what of their semi leadership. Richard moult aka christos beast went underground for several years and seems to have denounced the group. He was living as a catholic. In a rural part of england. And it wasn't until he resurfaced as a fairly prominent of folk musician. His past was rediscovered by his bandmates. Who kicked him to the curb. Although having sworn off his past he seems once again to be active in the order. And what about david. Miot aka anton long very likely the actual originator of the order as i mentioned at the top. He's a fascinating figure. In addition to kicking the lid off this nightmare. He's a classical. Greek scholar has lived all over. the world. lived for a time as both a christian and buddhist monk And in the two thousands converted to islam moved to the middle east and in fluent arabic became the west most ardent spokesperson for an advocate of osama bin laden and called for total jihad against the decadent magin nazarene order of the west. He's lived a hell of life guys. I was gonna say that. Sounds like three lifetime three completely mistrial lifetimes. But he's a horrible human being but he's also incredibly fascinating He spent ten years doing this before. Renouncing islam and moving home to rural england as well where he apparently still lives and perhaps still quietly guides the order of nine angles from his keyboard. Many people think his time in islam was just another of his many insight roles infiltrate infiltrating a group in order to raise one's awareness and possibly destroyed from within. This may also have been the motivation for richard mulched renunciation of the order his conversion to catholicism and his time in the folksy but in either case these men seem to be still at large now in their later years and despite having unleashed a methodology for very disturbed disordered minds everywhere to become the worst versions of themselves. They seem unbel- unmolested by the police which is baffling to me. Well except that the what four members there are are all in the police. Now they well. That's the thing is. They think that there's different levels of association with the order. And you kind of choose and they see they have names. There's artists who can be associated with it. There's street gangs there's Individual black black magicians can have different associations with it and they are. There's a lot of worry about how infiltrated they are into the military and police forces in the united states canada germany. Least so they're the best estimates that these anti fascist groups make is. There might be two thousand of them in the world but that seems like a couple thousand too many. Yeah most definitely so. It's a really fascinating horrible. Evil truly truly evil but very fascinating group of people right and i've never heard of them. Never got all all american law enforcement has only recently become even aware of them while they stay have managed to keep themselves in the shadow so successfully and and you know what what one of the journalists i read was talking about is they. Don't you if you come across an order of nine angles member. He's not gonna tell you right. It's a secret orders rule of fight club. Not the sloppy s. Stupid skinheads right there. There are a whole different level of discipline does not proud boys so really fascinating. But how about that raged. I'll i'm gonna sleep. Great tonight fantastic. Thanks for that. And let's move on doc if well you're a little younger than me but if you're like me you know kid kid of the child of the eighties right. I grew up with. I'd grew up with the the youth pop culture. What i was allowed to see as a young mormon which wasn't a lot like the goebbert's and he sh- he man you know yeah. Gi joe but you know what was a huge. What was a huge thing in in movies and culture at the time was the corey's right You had corey haim corey feldman they. They were writer died together. Right those two little cuties and they were just the lost boys and probably other movies. Yeah i can't remember but it was all about the corey's i remember corey wasn't in the goonies sure was that was sean asks to no no. I think they're the same person. Okay all right fair enough. Four heyman shan weiss ganz edges the same person. Yeah so anyway. I don't know if did did you enjoy the corey's daniela. Well not as much as you did. But i probably i mean you know. Only one of them made it this far and we're and the truth is while one of them did die. I don't know which one of them actually made it this far. I don't know if corey feldman who who lived. I don't know if he's the one that we can say made it because he's distance. Yeah anyway look. I am going to talk about a corey To but before we get there I wanted to talk a little bit about something. I i recently watched and i think i think you guys may have watched at least some of this too I watched as much as i was able to stomach of a debate. It took place a few weeks ago on zoom and pitted friend of the show and full attorney andrew seidel against christian gas bag and kim adventure movie bad guy. Tom trento closing statement which was beautiful extraordinary job with that. Yeah throughout the whole thing. Andrew was clear and incisive and fair in his treatment of the subject where trento unfortunately league couldn't even see or hear andrew And instead was having a totally different debate with the ender shaped straw man that he had set up next to his webcam which is that he completely ignored the reality of the person. He was debating and just plowed forward with a plan. He had crafted ahead of time. That plan had nothing to do with the extendable topic of the debate nor did he address or even acknowledge anything that the good mr seidel had said after a while the whole thing descended into chaos with trento trying desperately to trap andrew with multiple choice questions that didn't include the correct answers and throwing tantrums when he wouldn't just choose one of the options and shut up. Well how is it going to win a debate right. Exactly i wouldn't bother watching the whole thing If i were any of you though as uncle mark says andrews opening and closing speeches both knock it out of the park. So he's so he's so brilliant and and decent. Yeah and and easy on the eyes to a handsome music if you like those clean cut types. The reason i bring this up is because it is the latest for me in a very long line of moments where a believer has decided that the atheist that they've constructed in their mind is obviously far more honest and real than anything an actual atheist might say so they just ignore the real people that are right in front of them and valiantly goes to battle against the straw man army of their imaginations. They applaud each other as they bravely. Scare as bravely sleighs scarecrow after scarecrow never bothering themselves with the distant sounds of real honest arguments. Meanwhile we nonbelievers sit on our park benches watching the whole live action role play as they stabbed their dull prop swords into dummies with our name scrawled on them and then they go off to regale their churches with the noble story of their righteous victory over the savage heathens. It's a tales oldest time. And today i'm gonna prove that. I'm going to talk about an og straw man that goes back more than two thousand years. But only if you actually believe what. Mormons believe otherwise it goes back two hundred years. Because that's why. And joseph smith fabricated a pretend ancient record of jews in the americas for today's lesson. We're going to talk about one of the great characters in the book of mormon not that there's much competition corridor so core hor comes to us and leaves us in a single chapter of the book of alma for anyone stupid enough to have attempted to have read the book of mormon all the way through. You know that alma which is book. Nine of fifteen is the one where you finally lose the will to live completely Coming in at sixty three chapters. It's almost twice as long as any of the other books are boy. Horror comes in Joins the party in chapter thirty. So it's it's a brutal brutal book log i. I often encouraged our listeners. To like go ahead and go to the source material and learn stuff for yourself. Obviously but like. Don't don't read this book. not this book. yeah believe me. read this book. We're we're doing it so you don't have exactly so chapter thirty starts. In the land of zahra hemlock which was one of our favorite ones with the neophytes who are gods good white and delight some little boys and girls burying their dead after a huge with the layman knights who are gods dark skinned baddies. The surviving laminates are kicked out. The fights have some of their have some days of fasting and morning in prayer and then since they got rid of all the dark people quote there began to be continual peace throughout the land. God not racist at all. No no shut up Literally everybody was good and kept all the commandments. and shit. it's it's it's weird. That cliven bundy loves this book. Isn't it. I just had that right. Yeah strange will. And it's such a trope in throughout the book of mormon Especially in the book of alma bit but throughout that entire populations just all act as one character. You know individual no individuality or there's no fax percent. yeah there's no factions. There's no nuance opinion. Yeah the richest people were evil. The people were evil. The people are righteous fucking well and that's exactly it. This is a classic joseph smith. Move here you fix all of the problems literally make everything perfect for years then realize that you have that you have to have conflict to have a story and little they turn their hearts away from god again again right which does make me wonder how many angry frustrated grumbles martin harris heard from behind the curtain as joseph was dictating. I i imagine it to be something like this. Joseph says does the people did have no disturbance in all the sixteenth year of the reign of the judges over the people of knee fi and it came to pass in the commencement of the seventeenth. Year of the reign of the judges. There was continual piece. So it's amazing. It's amazing how long you can. You can stretch out. Nothing happened right. Exactly or martin harris is probably like hey joseph is going to pick up anytime soon right. Oh yeah yeah sure. sure sure. Let's take lunch and then we'll come back and Pick it up so anyway when they did get back from lunch. Joseph introduces the story of cora. Hor and it's a hell of an introduction comes out swinging at this guy quote. There came a man into the land of zahra hamila and he was anti christ for he began to preach unto the people against the prophecies which had been spoken by the prophets concerning the coming of christ boom. That's what passes for character building this. Yep he's new in down and he's anti christ that says bad guy yeah exactly and he literally might be one of the most nuanced characters in the book of mormon. It's to that in that moment. That joseph smith didn't invent a pre pre columbian railroad for him to tie a woman to one hundred percent. Yes exactly now. He's not the anti christ mind you. he's just anti christ. Yeah later he is. He's handed la- leader. He's an anti christ. So lots of ways to use that phrase. I guess anyway. The point is that we're supposed to hate him and that's all we know about him for a minute. Then the ebook answers the question. We're all asking which is if he's preaching against the prophecies. Why isn't he getting his ass kicked. Well now. now we get to several versus. About the hemlock criminal justice system it turns out that in ancient mesoamerica you were legally allowed to believe or not believe. Isn't that nice. And there are several versus justifying this position. Because old joseph was clearly deeply ambivalent about whether heathens should be allowed to speak or not right but the knee of hemlock landed on yes you can be a disgusting evil satan worshipping shit bag atheist if you want to perv and the good book gives a series of reasons why god wants it that way. God wants an open society where people are free to believe what they want and they have the legal right to talk about their beliefs freely. Put a pin in that anyway. Seven versus later. We're back to this anti christ. Which in this book is hyphenated with. Both words capitalized. By the way he finally gets a name the name corridor and even though we just had an entire opening arguments episode about alternative religious views in fight law. It is once again emphasized that he's legally allowed to do this. No matter how mad that makes you anyway. Core is preaching. There will be no christ remember. This takes place before. Jesus this is like bbc. Seventy five or something like that. So there's still waiting for this messiah and that there's no god and that there's no evidence that the prophecies are true. He says quote. Oh ye that are bound down under a foolish and vain. Hope whitey. yoke yourselves with such foolish things. Why do you look for christ for. No man can know anything which is to come. Behold these things which ye call prophecies which you say are handed down by holy prophets behold. They are foolish. Traditions of your father's so i like this guy feels pretty right. I'm with you great. And here's what's interesting about this chapter. Joseph smith like all the screenwriters of all of the best godawful movie episodes has to thread a needle here if you want the character to be at all believable which you know. It's a book of mormon. Why start now but whatever he has to try to make him make some sense but it can't make too much sense or you know readers might realize that he's actually you know the one who's right. So joseph smith throws in classic the classic the a straw man which is people who leave the church. Just want to sin now. This one's ubiquitous in the modern era. If you google why do people come become atheists or why do people leave the church and you find a christian websites answer. I guarantee you somewhere on that page. You'll find this. They just want us in. yeah now. Nobody that i've ever met or even heard of became an atheist because they wanted to sit no way and religious people have no problem sending they do it all the time to church on sunday. It's not fucking biggie. Right considering a source of this material reading right now exactly yeah totally. Now i will say this. There are some folks who eventually noticed that. God's rules about sex were stupid and that led them to realize that god might not be real and then they went on to have a delightful and less fettered sex life. But that's not leaving because you want to sin that's leaving because you realize that you were lied to and then sending well. Inside the central contradiction. There is that if i'm not into religion those religious religiously mandated since or not since right. It's just having a drink or get though. They often though they they will often say. I've heard many a believer. Say well you still believe you just want to send so you pretend like you don't believe also put a pin in that anyway. Oh quarterhorse horse said quote. There could be no atonement made for the sins of men but every man fared in this life according to the management of the creature. I guess meeting were all just animals. Therefore every man prospered according to his genius and and that every man conquered according to his strength and whatsoever. A man did was no crime right. Yeah what atheists believe is that you can do whatever you want. And since there's no god to tell you what's right or wrong there's no such thing as crime and everything is god. Damn free parole. Yeah yup that's added wildlife entirely. It's what we're all about. It's why they're the prisons are packed with atheists positively overflowing Now regardless of that stupidity apparently a guy talking mostly reasonably about the logical problems of magic. Daddy's in the sky and wizards predicting the future was a welcome diversion in perfect step. Fortunes are a hamlet and a bunch of people started listening and liking what they were hearing and women and men immediately turned to quote committing horde. Them that's what worry orden's yeah exactly. Ooh his own. He should get a t shirt. Well that's his podcast. Exactly yeah any who core a horror did didn't stay in zor He took a show on the road. You went to the land of jerry sean. To preach to the people of ammon who used to be lamen nights They're the evil dark skinned ones remember. But here's a twist. These guys were more wise than the knee fights. It literally says that and they immediately bound core whore and dragged him in front of ammon who was the high priest who him to be quote carried out of the land. Didn't we spend an oddly. Long amount of time talking about how it was good and god or deigned. The people be free to preach whatever they want. Shut up is it really. It's a different time now idiot. Exactly literally. I guess i just love the place where they are. More wise is the place where they're going against. God's idea of how the law is supposed to go but anyway the idea that martin harris was probably from behind the curtain going. Hey you know you wrote that stuff about really no freedom of speech. Does she want to set up a theocracy. Shit it's literally this. This chapter goes back and forth on that issue a dozen times. It's it's your head starts to spin anyway. Then cora hor tried his shtick in the land of gideon and they bound him and took him to the high priest and the chief judge of the land named good dona. Now i'm i'm not. I'm going to read a pretty big section of this because it's the first time we actually hear what cohorts says and well. It's pretty fucking compelling so this is him talking to godot the high-priced you say this people is a free people. Behold i say they are in bondage. You say that those ancient prophecies are true. Behold i say you don't know that they are true you say that these people This is a guilty and fallen people because of the transgression of apparent hold. I say that a child is not guilty because of his parents and he also say that christ show come but behold i say he do not know the that you didn't do not know that there she'll be a christ and you also say that he shall be slain for the sins of the world. And thus you lead the people you lead away this people after the foolish traditions of your fathers and according to your own desires and you keep them down even as they were in bondage that they might glut. Oh the might glut yourselves. With the labors of their hands and they durst not look look up with boldness and they durst not enjoy their rights and privileges. They not make use of that which is their own less they should be less should offend their priests who do yoke them according to their desires and have brought them to believe by their traditions and their dreams and their whims and their and their visions and their pretend mysteries that they should if they did not do according to their words of offend some unknown being who they say is god a being who has never. Who's who is who never has been seen or known who never was nor ever will be to me. That is a pretty shocking slam. Dunk corey i wanna come on the show. Yeah excellent work. Yeah reading from an outsider's perspective. That is some hard hitting skepticism. Yeah anyway very reasonable totally reasonable. Yeah anyway the high priest did what all believers do. When they hear a skeptic challenge their beliefs he told horror that his heart was hard and shipped back to our hemlock. Because that's good writing. Why did we leave anyway. Where if we're just going back to stand before the big boss alma skunk done done now almaz guy who's going to set things right. He's the great wise high priest who has the apologetic to put cohort hitchens in his place. First he tackles the claim that the priests make money off the labor of the people and for this. He uses the classic apologetic do not. He literally takes several paragraphs to say. I make my own money so shut up. Then they say they get to the real stuff all my ass core if he believes in god and in christ core horse says a new. Hasn't he clear although rates. Yeah exactly almost says almost starts to do the classic logical fallacy and says what evidence have you that there is no god or that christ cometh not i say unto you that you have none save it is your word only thereby demonstrating that not only does he not understand who has the burden of proof but that he doesn't recognize that his own arguments can be turned back to him because guess who's word only is also the only evidence for the other side. Then he makes his big proof that god does indeed exist things. You know all the things that's literally as argument. He's shocked the coral can't see it. Frankly yeah so does the final gambit he asks for evidence that god is real. Show me a sign. He says i'll believe now in real life that is a one hundred percent reasonable thing to ask but almaz like but the things look at all the things that's your goddamn sign so core just refuses to acknowledge the things and and says that's not a very good argument. He's such a stubborn. It's acquaintances five ways. Right right a look. There's a world someone made the stars move. Someone makes it's like okay. That's pretty deep. Just the same argument over and over again. Obviously yeah where did it alone from. Yeah so this is the point in the story where it takes a tarantino pivot where we take one moment in this godforsaken book that feels slightly realistic and we plunge into adolescent doofus style. Magic reality revenge stupidity alma. Says you wanna sign. I'll show you assign since you won't shut up and stop ruining god for everybody. God will shut you up. And with that corps is struck dumb permanently and with that corridor like a good and consistent skeptic that he has always been admits in writing that he was wrong and that god must exist. because he can't speak anymore do you think he was carrying his own. Gold-plate jot that down on or do they provide you with one in the courts. What's really funny. And i didn't write this. But what's really funny. Is that when they ask him believing in god now somebody writes it to him as though so such a dumb as just ask him. It's far anyway anyway. yes there's another popular believers straw man right there because about how he always they throw the throw the in this a straw man about how he always secretly believed deep down and that satan tricked him by coming to him like an angel to tell him that there was no god because as we all know god right. Yeah non-belief so often starts with an angelic visitation skepticism. A supernatural right here. Exactly but honestly really. Who's the bad guy here. Cora horror has conflicting beliefs based on lack of evidence and once he gets good evidence even though it fucks him up for life he acknowledges it but that's not the takeaway that we're supposed to get no cora. Hor is pronounced wicked and ends up going door to door begging for food because apparently mute people can't work and everyone who has believed him reverts back to being a good little good little church mouse and eventually core horror was viciously trampled to death. Oh my god and lest you think that i'm skewing. How the book presents this fate you with the actual final verse of the chapter which has a rare moral of the story style ending and thus we see the end of him who perverted the ways of the lord thus we see that the devil will not support his children at the last day but deaths speedily drag them down to hell and the name of jesus christ amen. Yeah so he's he should stand as a shining example of the power of the gospel right and he should be like what you know. That's what they were teaching missionaries and the mtc is cory horwitz convinced. It took striking mute and then there were some scribblings in the courtroom yada yada but but the hardest of hearts can be changed and and according to their own belief system. Harp became a good guy. The am i wrong. Yeah oh yeah. But i think the takeaway from this story at least from their perspective is don't ask questions yeah right. It's meant to chill to put a chill into the spine of anyone who would dare ask for a sign or ask for evidence or ask for any kind of reality based reason to believe this. Well i don't know dan if you're gonna if you're gonna go go here but i do know a lot of people who had a faith crisis because of the story. Oh really in the same way that. I know of some people who had faith crises because of the story of jesus in the fig tree because if says in that story it wasn't fixed season just went up to the victory didn't have figs so fucked up. Yeah yeah in. This story like corridor is making valid points. He has questions you wants to know and god strikes him dumb right and he says i believe and it ends up being a poor beggar and and getting trampled today. Yeah what's the what's the point of changing your mind. You know like what value is there. Yeah and if you read the story and you're like okay. Here's the problem. I'm having the lesson of the story is not supposed to ask questions. But the story has caused me to have questions fucking. We're supposed to do with that. Yeah it's a mess it's a it's a fun little thing and again. Every time we do a story in the book of mormon. It's just a lesson in why we don't why we edit why we don't claim that our book was directly translating from another book that's directly from god and the and thus make it so that we can't actually like you know edit the other stuck with this garbage mess a story forever it's an albatross around their necks but there you go there you go The third corey. Yep go get out there and have a have a corey horror of time and let's move on. Hey uncle mark yes sir. I know that you you recently crossed a border that is that is somewhat impenetrable right now. Because you know we're still in the middle of a pandemic. I managed to slide through into a closed country. The largest undefended border in the world. Which is quite something. You just got a loop up a lot got you gotta make a run for it anyway. The one of the things that you did before you went there was to get yourself A shot in the arm. I sure did. And i'm glad i did. Yeah and i've got my appointment. I finally got an appointment. Because i finally utah in utah. I'm in an age group. That's going to get them. So i in a in a week and a half. I'm going to be getting my first. Shot they the oh. That's good so they finally lowered it to uncles exactly. It's now well yeah exactly like mark old people style but like you know as young spry uncles can get them to now here teenagers. Well that's right but the question is do i really want it. I think there's a lot to unpack their no it just venting. This disease is not a good idea for some reason. I'm not sure why. But i'm pretty sure that uncle doug you can tell me. Well i'm gonna do my best to convince you otherwise okay Yeah like uncle. Dan just referenced uncle mark and i have both been vaccinated. I'm so happy to hear about that down. He didn't know that that you're getting your vaccine in a in short order. Yeah that's great news and once the government has managed to get all podcasters vaccinated. They can move onto doctors nurses teachers and the general public so essential workers. That's right right so hopefully many of you out there have either received your first vaccination or getting close to being able to something tells me joe rogan's not going to be getting one but that's a subject for another needle would break trying to penetrate is fuck and skin. It's crazy that it's basically been one year since this all started depending on obviously where you are and so it's it's hard not to take stock of what we've all been through in these last twelve interminable months but as the experts keep telling us we are not through this yet and whether we actually get out of this depends on the vast majority of doing the right things. We still need to wash our hands. Practice proper social distancing stay away from parties sporting events and concerts wear masks diligently and get the fucking vaccine as soon as we all can. There is still a real possibility that this virus could mutate into something that makes all the sacrifice effort for nothing so the subject of my segments could not be more timely today. I wanna talk about anti vaccine and the anti vaccine movement like on this show. We've talked about every form and fashion of out. There of wu there. An anti vaccine is definitely a woo. But most moves are basically harmless. If you wanna get your palm read go for it. If you don't want to leave the house until you've read your daily horoscope cares if you want to try and communicate with your dead relatives via a ouija board. I light the candles for you if you want to stick ajay up your recently steamed gene. Cram the fucker up there. Just don't do it during allergy season. Jade is hypoallergenic. Of course these was. These lose can be harmful if say by following some fortune cookie prediction. You make bad decisions. And there are wounds that are that are inherently harmful like trepidation or reputation trepidation grimace conjuring. Being being reluctant is not a woo. Yeah but there is only one wou that is on the world health organization's top ten list of global health threats. And that's antitax or as they put it vaccine hesitancy want to know what else is on that list. Well covid nineteen obviously poor third world third world health. Care you bulla. Dang gay fever. Hiv and climate change. That's right guy fieri. You're that's right. The world health organization sees anti vacs as dangerous as aids and climate change. Jesus there is no real way to know how many people die every year due to anti vaccine damage it causes but the. Who believes that. At least one point five million people a year could be saved if vaccine distribution was marginally improved and one of the biggest impediments to that. Marginal improvement is the anti vaccine movement. So yeah i see you know the the numbers get big real fast As we'll discuss the anti vaccine movement could actually derail our defeat. Derail our efforts to defeat cove in nineteen plunging. His back into the pit where we we were all a year ago and killing millions more people unlike the viruses of the body this movement seeks to protect anti vaccine viruses of the mind and as such might be one of the deadliest viruses in history underlying all of this is the fact that anti vaccine stupid belligerent anti-science often racist and easily disapproval. Not only that. But it's also inconsistently applied illogical to its core and poorly thought out if any of its adherents think about it all. Oh they think they think hard they have developed many many vo ciprusov ways of defending their positions. So well if you say so. But we're not saying good or smartwatch. Just many many ways. Let's agree on loud. Okay unlike other words this one has to be confronted and defeated or were doomed. I would never tell you to slap the tarot cards out of the hands of the yoga instructor. You're trying to have sex with but if you know any anti vaccine you should really talk to them and try and change their mind. If this virus of the mind is not confronted and treated it could kill us all. So let's dig in shall we As early as the tenth century in china someone noticed that those who had previously had a mild case of a deadly disease where less susceptible to that disease later this led to a practice called variation wherein poss- or scabs from an infected person are blown up the nasal passages rubbed on scratches on the skin of an uninfected individual. I know this just sexy as it said. I know this sounds disgusting but honestly it was probably the least disgusting thing to have happened to you. On any given day in the tenth century why this practice worked in would would would remain a mystery for centuries but by the sixteenth and seventeenth century. It was in fairly wide use in china india and turkey before making its way to england in the eighteenth century. Now here's the thing. Eighteenth century england was certainly somewhat enlightened Certainly somewhat enlightened place for the world back then but that doesn't mean it wasn't still barbaric. Yeah so some of the first True scientific experiments of vaccines were carried out on children prisoners and slaves. None of who are you going to do it. On good like grown up white people essentially aldrin. This would pretty disposable. Then the children's a bad show for kids man doubt this would unfortunately be a part of the development and experimentation to vaccines for well over one hundred years as we'll see these evil practices would become a bit a small bit of the fodder that would become the anti vaccine movement But before we get to that let's talk about. How what what a game. Changing development vaccine science was for the human race prior to their development. When a disease crossover from some animal to humanity. All we can really do is just wait for it to run. Its course outbreaks of cholera influenza. And of course ends long. That's known as the trump plan. That's exactly right exactly so yeah. Outbreaks of cholera influenza and of course bubonic plague would kill millions of people per outbreak. The version of the botanic plague known as the black death killed between seventy five and two hundred million people between thirteen forty-six and thirteen fifty three. Jeez yeah bad guys. They were just week from. Hiv aids is still a global pandemic has killed more than thirty six million people. Since nineteen eighty-one of course there is not a vaccine yet for this disease but the therapeutics are incredible. If expensive and hiv aids is very preventable. The reasons that it has and continues to spread basically racism and religious are very much a part of the anti vaccine movement as we'll discuss but yeah i mean that you know. We were all alive during the aids crisis in the eighties. Although you know pretty young and pretty dumb but that was a terribly preventable disease. That was treated as a gay disease. A black disease on african disease and was able to spread. So that's good stuff and and and when people died of it it was horrid. It was absolutely horrible. Fact that these therapeutics are now exist when and guys that caught it in the original wave are dying of old age is incredible. It's incredible bears mentioning. We'll get back to this. That's not happening everywhere that aids problem but of course it's right exactly so in the eighteen eighties. Louis pasteur brought. What was a pretty chaotic and unorganized field of science into the modern age when he developed microbial fermentation and pasteurization. Since then we have developed vaccines for pure peer parl. Fever rabies anthrax cholera polio measles. Tetanus smallpox chickenpox influenza. hpv. Hepatitis lime disease. Rubella whooping cough wrote rotavirus mumps diptheria dang game malaria tuberculosis among others so It's you know it's been a game changing development for the human species. This of course brings us to today and the emergence of covid nineteen as we have all become acutely aware. This disease is incredibly contagious. Having spread from wuhan china to every corner of the globe in a matter of months as of the time of this record covid nineteen has killed two point six nine million people worldwide with the us accounting for five hundred thirty nine thousand of those deaths. So where number. One and because of the incumbent national governments the selfishness of far too many and the vast amounts of disinformation ready in the psychological bloodstream. From the anti vaccine movement this disease was poised to simply just wash around the globe over and over until mcnew and more resistant and more deadly strains evolved and let's not be too optimistic. This could still happen. We are in desperate. Yeah yeah we're we're in a desperate foot race against these variants as we speak the only way we can beat this virus back and stop the carnage let alone get back to some sort of normalcy is for enough of us in our fellow humans all over the world not just in our own countries to get the vaccines that are now available to reach her immunity. Now we've all heard that term. It is of course the critical mass of humans that have to have immunity such that the the the disease cannot spread with impunity. Excuse me the former president called it herd mentality suggests wrong in the most apt freudian slip in history once herd immunity is reached. The reproduction number reaches zero. This is called are not right or rs. Zero right now covid. Nineteen is between our two and our three meaning that each person who gets it can infect two to three other people in order to return immunity or not with covid nineteen fifty and sixty seven percent of the population needs the vaccine in america. This means one hundred and sixty four million two hundred twenty four million people need to be vaccinated but but more would be better always better. This is the baseline just to stop the the you know the the spread on but remember this is a global pandemic and the longer this disease persists anywhere. The higher the chance of chances that dangerous variants can evolve. Defeat the vaccines so to win this fifty to sixty seven percent of the populations of england china iraq togo and benin needs to be vaccinated worldwide. That is three point. Eight to five point. One billion people need to get vaccinated and fast as of now. Seventy seven or so million americans have received at least their first dose of the vaccine which is a good start but globally only four hundred ten million people have been vaccinated so far. That's bad that's only eight to eleven percent of where we need to be We are not through this yet and there is no time to spare and there is certainly not time for the disinformation campaign by the anti vaccine movement and its erstwhile allies The mere fact that we have these vaccines at all is truly incredible. And i've heard you know including us have referred to it is miraculously because that word by its very definition is meant to apply to events that defy explanation or explanation explanation or expectations. But this was not a miracle this was the achievement of scientists and the body of work. They have all contributed to. So let's talk about these vaccines for a second because it will. It will inform where we end up while the covid nineteen virus was new to humanity hence the term novel there was a robust body of knowledge of corona viruses out there due to the previous corona vices. Like sars and mers right. This data was shared globally in an open source initiative. Call g sad or id which shares genomic data on influenza viruses with anybody that wants it because of that body of knowledge we were not starting out from zero but even still Not only had to take years to develop vaccines in the past. There was not any vaccine in existence for any kind of corona virus so the challenge was extreme as the pandemic enveloped the globe in there in early. Two thousand twenty scientists were able to isolate covid. Nineteen genetic sequence on january eleventh twenty twenty which in itself is incredible next. there was. Yeah that's really quick. Super super quick next. There was an unprecedented collaborative Undertaken by national governments drug companies and research universities to find a vaccine. The main vehicles for this effort were the. Who an initiative by the g. twenty called access to covid nineteen tools. Accelerator so these are the two main bodies that kind of tried to coordinate all this research. I think you mean president. Trump's warp speed initiative. Well i'll i'll get to that for so k. and yes that's the w. h. o. That said donald trump pulled us from in may of twenty twenty because he needed to blame someone for his failures and this is true because they refuse to call it. The china virus which is something that would have no evil consequences at all right. Yeah that hasn't turned into anything even shittier nope no. It's been great so ankle. Dan mentioned warp speed in. May trump announced operation warp speed which was an effort to fast track. Funding clinical trials approval and distribution of potential vaccines. It was named operation warp speed because donald trump is a child. Yeah but the the the thing is also you think he ever watched star trek like he. The i'm guessing that was a that was a jared kushner name or don jr. something yeah i know like he doesn't seem to watch something like that in glean anything from it. He's just too fucking self is was the fact that it wasn't operation. Trump speed is pretty surprising. So the thing is it's not a bad idea to do this. But trump ran it early like he's run everything else in his life Into the ground basically. So although moderna moderna and johnson and johnson did take funding from warp speed to develop vaccines pfizer did not not wanting to infect pun intended their research with the trump administration's incompetence as for the distribution phase of warp speed. Trump did basically nothing right. God only knows how this would append out. Had he won the election point of order. He didn't do nothing. he took full credit for. That's exactly right it's true that's not nothing. That's what's so funny. Not only you know. He's claiming credit to this day for the vaccines. I think should give him some. You know some credit and respect because we all remember how much credit and respect trump gave the previous administration for the economy right exactly so trump is claiming credit for this to this day which sets up one of the many contradictions in the story. The foot soldiers in trump's army are by and large q. on believing anti vaccine and here we have trump winking at them while demanding credit for the vaccines yeah and very typically encouraging people to get vaccinated but keeping his own vaccination secret. This will not. It's but but you we know that the cue brain is incredibly incoherency is it's not a problem truly and i'm i remain convinced that trump didn't show a picture of getting the vaccine because he didn't want to see him in short sleeved shirt with his shirt pulled up. I believe right well. None of us wanted to see. That's i think him for it. That's fair so with all that context. Let's get to the anti vaccine. Since the first vaccinations there have been anti vaccine. There's there were those who objected to having scabs blown up their nostrils because it was gross and it was weird and no one understood why it worked or in many cases because religious leaders railed against these religious arguments ran the gamut from scientists devil worship to viruses were created by god to punish the wicked and any attempt to stop them was fighting against the will of god all right. It's it's the same reason that when ben franklin put a lightning rod on wherever it was town hall and philadelphia or whatever and all the churches inveighed against as as yup subverting god's will and then two years later they all had lightning round exactly. Yeah so in the nineteenth century there were anti vaccination leagues that sprung up in the us and the uk that slowed down the vaccination campaigns against smallpox and led to untold numbers of unnecessary deaths. Similar leagues appeared. All around the world. is that campaign continued. Most of these leagues focused on. What would become the main fear of all anti vaccine harm to children. Most current anti vaccine fall into two buckets with one being far larger and more nefarious than the other. The biggest grin. We just keep them in the bucket. Really we could seal it then. That would be great. the biggest group or those. That believe they are. There is some conspiracy or several conspiracies behind vaccines. And we'll get to that he's ranged from the profit motive of the pharmaceutical and medical industry all the way to alien experimentation of course whatever their particular belief is it's based on a belief in dark forces with no regard regard for public health. The second much smaller bucket are those that simply. Don't care enough to get vaccinated. They're part of the problem. So don't feel any need to be part of the solution so while the latter is certainly a cause for concern. It's the former group that is a global crisis and there are different kinds of anti vaccine. There's some who to completely deny an issue any kind of accent. There are some that want to spread out. Vaccinations over time. Only get this one or that one so the kind of run the gamut but they pretty much all believe the same things. they're all looking at the same materials and so we're going to keep them in a single group for the purpose of this discussion. Because whatever you're doing if you're slowing down vaccines or you're not getting him. You're the effect is the same right. Modern yeah the modern iteration of this insanity has its roots in the campaign to vaccinate against it. Fury tetanus pertussis hope. I said that right process. I think in the nineteen seventies conflicting and spurious reports appeared in the uk press that there was significant neurological after effects from this vaccine in children. Not true but in the history of followed a film called vaccination roulette and a book called a shot in the dark hit the market. These two works described. Dark conspiracies joins stuck what this was in the nineteen seventies late nineteen seventies early august. Okay this you know what we call the anti vaccine movement isn't that old you know and i thought actually well it didn't get get it's real. We'll get to early where it kinda got so it's injection so to speak right But the so both these films were films. Booker complete hui. But they're still around today. There's still in circulation then came the inciting incident of the modern anti vaccine movement in nineteen ninety eight a british physician named andrew wakefield released a paper in the lancet called iliad lymphoid najah hyperplasia nonspecific colitis and pervasive developmental disorder. In children. try saying that three times or just once The paper claimed a link between vaccinations for measles. Mumps rubella and autism in children right given the wakefield was a doctor at the time. He's not anymore right and the paper sounded scientific. It caused a major stir one that we are still feeling today. I don't want to spend too much time on wakefield because he is truly one of the world's greatest monsters and quite literally may have as much blood on his hands. As any of history's greatest villains. Yeah he's essentially a baby murderer. Yeah yeah Except to say that it turns out that he was paid by various organizations to produce the paper and the paper itself was so completely spurious. That lancet retracted wakefield with stripped of his medical license. That hasn't stopped him though he was behind. The you know quote unquote documentary faxed. That came out in the in the two thousands with the tagline. The movie they don't want you to see gotta love that. That's a that all conspiracy theories that's catnap right exactly and it's basically the citizen kane of the anti vaccine movement. Glenn watch the trailer for this monster. Snipe nightmare if you're up to it. And if you're not filled with boiling hate for wakefield. I don't wanna know you. It's necessary it's manipulative. It's grotesque it's shocking. The godawful movies guys did it right. Yeah i think they pound a nail. It's horrible and not for nothing but because you know autism is tragic and it's very difficult for families of autistic people to you know to raise autistic children and And again i'm. I'm not trying to shame her or anyone out. There is offended by. I don't mean that. By any stretch. I i would i would. I would ask to modify tragic. I think it's just simply a a different way of being that yes can be more challenging. Yeah of course and but to try and manipulate people with autistic children autistic family members and use that video to manipulate others. I think his tragic up and completely missing from the conversation is the fact that autism is way better than most of the diseases. Which vaccines present promote google fucking picture of smallpox. So in the in the research or polio polio. And the research for this. I saw a lot of. What's so fucked up. Is i saw a lot of photos about this stuff. From recent like not pictures of people with smallpox in eighteen ninety smallpox is as it recurred it. The smallpox hasn't but polio has had some outbreaks and stuff like that. Because of this fucking shit so the sequel to this piece of shit vacs movie faxed to the people's truth. Electric google was released in november of two thousand nineteen mere months before the covid pandemic and. I don't want to wish ill on people. So i'm gonna stop talking about wakefield right now But this this fear that these vaccines caused autism was based on the fact Pounded in these documentaries that these vaccines contain traced can contained trace amounts of mercury in the form of a chemical called mirasol which contains forty nine percent methylmercury ever so little mirasol was used in these vaccines that it came nowhere near a dose that could potentially cause harm and in fact in two thousand three danish researchers conducted a study involving thousands of children who who received vaccines containing and thousands who receive vaccines that contain none and they found that the instances of autism was exactly the same in both groups. This these vaccines the mirasol. A methylmercury are not causing autism but the mirasol has been removed from almost every major vaccine simply due to the public perception. Yeah so The unfortunate truth though is this fear vaccines and medical science. Being less than forthright and ethical is not entirely without cause. I mentioned earlier. That the first vaccination experiments were carried out on slaves children and prisoners. Not good then. I don't want slaves and prisoners to get it but i'm just wondering why the children are thrown in there. I think it is i think. No i think it's because a lot of these diseases struck children's childhood okay. So they're they're like oh we'll just use children to experiment with ren of course there were. There were the tuskegee. Experiments carried out by the public. Health service tuskegee university. And the cdc in which african american men were told. They were being given free healthcare to treat their syphilis when in reality they were not and for forty years. They were observed to see what long term syphilis would do to the human body. Yeah this led to the painful and miserable death of one hundred twenty eight of the men. It is one of the darkest chapters in american medical history and has been a consistent reason for mistrust of the us government particularly by african americans. Ever since for good reason yeah there are. There are some people that are that. I think are justified in their hesitancy. Yep but it's not fucking jenny mccarthy and you know her fucking social set of white upper class liberals in hollywood bowl right. Yeah and we'll definitely we'll we'll dig into that and hate on some people here in a minute But the tuskegee experiments diddley disa- major reforms in the us health industry that remain today including the creation of the office for human research protections within the health and human health and human services administration so these exist specifically to prevent anything like that from ever happening again. The body of law that exists because of to gigi is significant but if your natural inclination is to mistrust the government will the tuskegee experiment. Certainly don't help yeah Another tenant of the anti vaccine movement is something called vaccine overload. This is not a medical term by the way but essentially means that too much vaccine or vaccines administered in two rapid a succession will weaken the immune system and lead to adverse affects again. This is hogwash. Not only have so. This is a really interesting fact. Not only a vaccine become so efficacious over the last several decades such that the immune immunological components in the fourteen. Vaccines administered to children. Today is less than ten percent of what it was in the seven. Vaccines administered in nineteen eighty hour. Yeah it's the vaccine. Science has has come a long way and not for nothing but many vaccines must be administered on a specific timeline. In order to work yet right yeah vaccine overload. Unfortunately it's still a common try amongst Anti vaxxers ironically the success of many vaccines one of the main driving forces behind behind the anti vaccine trump actually brought that up at one of the debates for he was president. Yeah it just saying well. Why don't we just space it out more exactly. Yep so the success of many vaccines ironically working against them. You know quote. Nobody has measles or polio anymore. So why do they keep injecting us with. It is like a common trope of anti vaccine so while the answer to this seems so obvious as to be mind-blowing it's very common Because of this. Ironically antibac- sentiment has caused outbreaks of cholera whooping cough measles mumps into brick yellow says in the united states in the last several years I'm all of which were basically eliminated up exactly. I mentioned before that there is inherent racism to anti vaccine movement because there is the firstly the anti vaccine movement is heavily involved in all things conspiratorial including and on which are inherently racist. Nobody wants to be called a racist especially racist. Most anti actors don't even wanna called bat preferring the moniker vaccine risk aware and you know anti vaccine is by no means only a white phenomenon however the communities often hit first and hit hardest by disease outbreaks or black and brown communities one of the best ways to combat and curb the spread of of viral diseases is to get them where they start which is oftentimes poorer countries so back in two thousand fourteen. We went to west african. We the us went to west africa to help prevent the spread of a bola and successfully managed to keep this terrible disease from spreading out of control. Guess what anti vaccine are often against funding for efforts in these poor often black and brown countries. We're seeing this in real time now with covid. Nineteen the reasons that black and brown communities are medically disadvantaged are many and systemic but they are undeniable. Yeah so i'm sorry. If you're unsubstantiated ridiculous and easily just provable. Beliefs lead to bad outcomes in primarily black and brown communities. I don't know what else to that racist. Anti vaccine just stinks of white privilege front. Yes it does for sure yet it unfortunately. This movement has garnered some famous kind of and powerful adherents for minor. Celebrities like jessica biel jim carey jenny. Mccarthy leashes still re silverstone gentleman juliette lewis. Charlie sheen rob Danny masterson selma blair and to a certain extent bill. Maher up to god. help me robert deniro. I know that. Oh that one hurts. Yeah yeah really why. Well i mean. I guess i still want my money back for bad grandpa but expect good actor but i never thought of is an idiot. Yeah exactly yeah well and then not to mention like you said. Uncle mark the forty fifth president of the united states donald j trump among many tweets and outbursts on the subject. He tweeted in two thousand fourteen quote healthy young child goes to doctor gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines doesn't feel good and changes autism. Many such doesn't feel good and changes was. It was a good tweet though. We gotta give him credit for that. That's a solid there. So yeah the man. In charge of project warp speed the government initiative to generate and distribute a vaccine from may of twenty twenty two january of two thousand twenty. One was an anti vaccine and then of course the overwhelming scientific consensus is that vaccines are widely safe in effect ineffective. There aren't many things that have such a consensus if four out of five. Dentists recommend a toothbrush. You're going to go buy it yet. That's nothing compared to the consensus on vaccines right and not for nothing. We've harped on this before. The scientific method that led to vaccines is the same method. That has led to air travel smartphones. Gps viagra the germ theory of disease. Chris larynx jar jar. Binks electricity the internet and grimace conjuring. You don't get to pick and choose here you believe in reputable science or you don't and if you don't that's fine but pleased to be handing your car keys and laptop. You can be skeptical about it but once the once you examine the evidence right. There's nothing to support the anti vaccine position exactly well except that they've got their own evidence and a they've got a whole cadre of their own doctors and their own scientists to save the opposite things and go ahead go ahead. I was going to say and you're going to mention this but the catholic church of course just came out and said cat. Catholic shouldn't get the johnson and johnson vaccine because fetal tissue was part of the research. I didn't even know that. Yep i'm gonna. I'm gonna go punch a hole in my television real quick. Yeah so this brings us to our current crisis throughout the covert bent pandemic anti vaccines have been howling that this was a hoax or that it was a bio weapon that the chinese either released on purpose lost control of and now that the vaccines are untested and dangerous. This was all spelled out in yet another quote unquote documentary released in two thousand twenty called. Plan democ oh yeah. This piece of propaganda push push the conspiracy. That covid was manmade. The doctors and hospitals use the pandemic as a money making venture. That masks actually caused disease and that hydroxychloroquine is active in stopping cove. It absolutely none of this is true and his counterproductive dangerous. But if you know any anti vaccine is you can bet money. They've seen it. So the filmmakers have been discredited the whole thing is a piece of shit But it's out there and the final piece of the puzzle to talk about is the speed with which the covid vaccines were developed. Rather than with develop. Because that's a big trope of anti vaccine is this came out too fast Rather than seeing this as a towering achievement of medical science anti factors point to it as proof that it's all rigged their point being that the government had them all along or they weren't tested rigorously enough and we don't know what's in them or both or both legs to believe all the things that can believe all the things regardless of what it whether it makes any sense to the first point i can only say that if donald trump had been hiding the vaccine this whole time and the early release would have guaranteed victory. Is there any personal life. That thinks he would not have blurted it out at some point tolerate to the second point we do know what's in these vaccines you can look it up online. The thing is if you're not a medical or virological expert or can speak english like me. You're probably not going to fully understand the you know what's in the stuff but again i don't fully understand how the internal combustion engine works but i don't think it's a government conspiracy to get me to work on time in your car. People know it's fucking pizza when they order. That's exactly what i find it. Hard to stomach the argument that we should refuse to put something in her body unless we fully understand what it's what it's from. What's in it from the people who celebrate the return of the mcrib right right Yeah i mean think about that. The next time you cram doritos in your mouth and wash it. Down with vodka tonic so anyway And they were rigorous rigorously tested. No steps were skipped in stroke of genius. Many of the steps necessary to create and test vaccine were run concurrently rather than in sequence and insert and some of the funding for this process. Came from you guessed. It operation warp speed so through the teeth. If you must you can tell your antitax friends. That trump deserves some credit here although with five hundred thirty nine thousand caveats. Yeah so we're getting a little long in the tooth here. I thought it was important to cover all this ground. So let's just sum up. Vaccines do not cause autism. In children there is no such thing as vaccine overload. We know exactly what's in the covid vaccines they were absolutely tested are very safe and you should not be taking your medical advice from charlie sheen adam right. Take it from us exactly. Take it from your doctor. So you know i hate to do this. But if there are any anti vaccine in your life it might be a worthwhile effort to engage with them and try if you can to convince them or enlighten them or move them because this thing is bad. It's real bad and we need everybody onboard. Unfortunately it's not just a matter of well they're only risking their own lives because they're not. There's there's no peeing section. The public pool is it. Is it so dangerous to them. They're willing to go through another fucking year of this right. You know four or five years because who knows if a variant pops up that's trickier. That's harder to make a vaccine for. Yeah we're all fucked so thank. God we've got a vaccine yup get it get. Let's get the herd immunity so that you were okay. We need to do this together. And and you know someone's going to have to talk to these people going to have to be us. It's gonna have to be us if if not now when if not who us. That's right all right okay. Well thanks uncle doug. I know there was a lot of work. 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205: Plan B

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205: Plan B

"Support for this american life comes from squarespace providing designer crafted templates mobile friendly and e commerce ready for a free trial of your new website visit squarespace dot com slash american and enter american think it dream it make it with squarespace and from indeed if you're hiring with indeed you can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using in an online dashboard find out more at indeed dot com slash american. There's a short story by the fiction writer ron carlson in which a guy who loses his job after after ten years at the job his bossom okay go to plan b. and the guy says this was plan b which is i think how goes for most of us we had off cheerfully toward play. The planet turns out to be completely different from what we thought it was going to be and so we switched to a backup and then the backup plan because i live while back i was giving a talk to about one hundred people and knowing i was going to be talking about this on the radio. I ask them to remember back to when they first hit adulthood. What is it that the allies is would be like what was their plan back then and i ask them okay. How many of you are still on plan a out of one hundred people. Only one person raised her hand. Just one the youngest person in the room just twenty three years old. Everybody was like plan b what about plans c. d. the NF today on our program stories of the backup plan b believing the backup plan which is most of us from WBZ BBC chicago. It's this american life. I'm ira glass a broken today and five acts good in the story of how you decide as your backup plan to kidnap the child of the most famous entertainer in the world and jonathan goldstein stories valley took telemarketing job just tied things over for awhile then kept it for ten years finding to his disappointment news better telemarketing anything else in his life. Stay with us. It's another tequila sunrise. John hodgman tells this fable of giving up one dream for another much more ridiculous dream a few years ago the company that owns jose cuervo tequila purchased marina cay a small all eight acres speck of an island in the caribbean and they renamed it cuervo nation they applied to the UN for independent statehood. They encouraged US citizens to defect via simple ritual of drinking a shot. They even tried to field an olympic volleyball team. The whole thing was a bold experiment and advertising via nation building but since those heady early days of independence the nation's patriotic fervor is calm somewhat. It's now used as a place to send contest winners and a promotional lure for for members of the world press which is how i found myself headed to cuervo nation last june for a series of very educational tequila tastings and how i met the nation's most prominent citizen and ambassador to the world he stood at the dock waiting for us as our ferry chugged over from tortola shaven headed teed sort of looked pike anton levay. Were it not for the speed of mirror shades and read superhero. K. satan has spring break through a megaphone he alerted what is that we are now. Entering the parties as we disembarked he began scooting maniacally around us with a tequila shot balanced on his bald head daring us to second down without using our hands. This was cuervo representatives. Were there to teach us about tequila cuervo. The man i was told was there to party with us. His job was to party and just as i began to grasp the frightening yet thrilling ramifications of this fact act where bowman's spotted me. He pointed to his shot ground head opened his arms wide and chased me on the dock. Wherever man's real name is ryan mcdonagh. I learned this from the cuervo reps who i think were a little annoyed that i was asking so few questions about their tequila can so many questions about the man who seem to be. They're trained to kill a monkey. Actually i was told the term is party catalyst and when he wasn't on the island ryan was going from bar to bar all over the northeast embodying the untamed spirit jose cuervo meaning what i asked asked them meaning he does interactive promotions designed to introduce consumers to the responsible enjoyment of the various brands of jose cuervo tequila meaning what i asked them and that's when ryan ran up to the table with a toilet seat around his neck and a plunger stuck to the top of his head dude he said check it out plunger on my head and then he ran down to the beach and shut down his pants and then he sang a dirty song and made us do shots what's and teams and then he collapsed. The earth embarked like the seal. It's sort of hard to explain what he does. They told me and that's exactly why he fascinated. Take me i mean considered the plunder. We're at me. I might have come up with a toilet seat around my neck tour. That's a natural but then to extend the metaphor to take the imaginative leap to the plunger on the head. Oh that's genius by the last night i was there. The cuervo reps realized. I was lost 'cause they left me with the bottle of cuervo especial special and went to bed and ryan. I got to talk it turned out cuervo and i have a lot in common both lived in new york like me. Ryan is thirty years old old originally from the boston area like me. He went to an ivy league school and spent most of his time. They're drinking and feeling out of place. Yes the man barking like a seal bill. That's a princeton man and that's when i realized that apart from some small matters of faith and several thousand sit ups on ryan's part we were the same so we both came out of college with an english degree a thirst for booze and the absurd faith that someone would pay us simply for being drunk and charming and in a strange but undeniable undeniable way for ryan that turned out to be true and that's when i realized i was jealous of how does one get to be a a party catalysts dude. He said that's what everyone wants to know and my bag of stuff a bag of tricks. What kind of props guy in my field needs got. My helmet stuffed monkeys. I got laguardia airport. I've got <hes> three three of them. It's six months later and i'm ryan's apartment in brooklyn. He's agreed to take me with him to a couple of bars out on long island where he's doing whatever it is he does and he's showing join me a few of the things he'll bring with him. The speedo i have i throw that on because it's just shocking shock value rubber chicken plunger aw right on the ball head that it was never ryan's dream to have a job wearing plunger he wanted to act. It's a cliche lisa. I know and so did ryan but he had done some singing and musical theatre in college and this was his dream specifically. This was his dream. There is nothing unlike a day nothing. There's nothing you can name that is like day. Ryan ended south pacific in summer stock and dinner theater but it really wasn't coming together the way he wanted to from the beginning he knew he needed a backup plan so he started looking for a job in and finance after all. What's princeton degree good for if not making money. He interviewed at six companies but but he only got a call back at one. I think everyone else who applied there from princeton dale offer jobs so i called and they were not gonna offer me a job. I'm like why why not and i was really really upset and thought i could change his mind or somebody's like well. It just seems you know. People seem to think that you are you'd really rather be acting <music> and i'm like why don't you leave that up to me. I need money to act. He needed a day job but the day job wanted him to act act so he was stuck in new york working part time at a mail order bible company and part-time upper east side bar now ryan enjoyed a delicious beverage from time to time and when he drank either after his shift or sometimes during everyone pays attention to him he'd make jokes and balanced shot glasses on his head. He owned the room. I mean i've always been the type of guy that like people would invite to parties to weddings and people would offer when i had no money and i was hanging out with my buddies from princeton new lawmaking lawmaking bank. They're like going out to the bar. I'm like i don't have any money. I'll pay for your drinks. I want you to come out and it wasn't even so much like i was such a great friends. People i was just a funny ass drunk people wanted the funniest drunk around and just you know bar backing out always goof around and unusually get get a little drunk and and dance with people anyway the DJ there as on DJ company and he would do weddings and parties and stuff like that so oh he took me on and so ryan joined a shadow industry of party professionals the kind you might meet on resorts on yachts leading serve side limbo competitions funds were at reunions encouraging people to dance people whose job it is to four sist- interact to touch one another to have fun because apparently this is something we've forgotten how to do brian paid his dues working bar mitzvahs organizing group games dressing up woody from toy story complete with a big plastic head d- over his own head and then he got the call from jose cuervo they were running a tugboat called the untamed spirit to for short booze cruises out of san diego and they wanted him on it. His job would be to entertain winners of various jose cuervo promotional contests and turned out. They pretty much enjoyed the same things that thirteen year olds what's did minus the big plastic head and plus tequila and ryan can drink to the envy of all my peers <hes> oh really you know i <hes> and eventually the opportunity came to do it. Fulltime and the tough part about it was that i was going to have to give up acting any pretense i had of being an actor was gone because it was like you know what i'm not doing. It sounds like let's make some money doing something that's close to acting and <hes> so i i went with brian had entered the party's own lucky night here monterey as we got jose. We're going to house tonight and the fire department my like that from you guys. It's going good commentary claro samples in other words shots. You don't have to pay for monetary sports spars on route twenty four in uniondale long island hoster universities nearby but this part of uniondale is not so much college town as it is a college strip a- blacktop aktop spoke of suburban sprawl with monterrey's on the corner next to a guns and ammo shop next with starbucks inside it's dank and cavernous with banners advertising fifteen cent wings and five dollars pitchers. I will learn many important things tonight. The perhaps the most surprising is this people in bars whereas apparently need cuervo t shirts and many shot glasses in order to live and to get them they will do unimaginable things right now. I got a teacher and in my speedo and we've seen that yes although i'm gonna come to you. You got a nice clothes. Getting let me set the scene brian standing at the back of the crowded bar. He's torn off his black breakaway sweatpants to reveal a very tight speedo stuffed with t shirts and then how shall i put this young women crouch down in front of him. Take hold of the shirt with their teeth and pull the woman talking about. I hadn't bargained for this if ryan's not giving girls t t-shirts out of his pants you serving them shots off his head. I level with their bras. Were asking them to lick his scalp or just rubbing up against them. Maybe it's because he seems more mischievous than predatory or maybe it's because he comes with the sanctioning strange demise celebrity of the well known liquor brand but ryan is able to do say things in the name of cuervo will get you arrested in most circumstances and his antics aren't just tolerated. They're adored attention to my head address. Your candy canes on cuervo nation. I would have described him as a kind of corporate gesture but as i watch women gleefully early french them and then wander casually back to their boyfriends a better word comes to mind he's a seder the half man half fees concert of diagnosis god ov drunken revelry and not just because he's got a harry back like from me from me like southwest taking home domesticated it and if you haven't guessed already this is the other reason i'm fascinated by ryan's job while the rest of the bar grind dances and flirts and watches sports and the thirty odd. TV's at monterrey's. I've somehow managed to put myself next to the single screening inexplicably tuned to PBS specifically ric burns's documentary of new york ryan on the other hand is out there moving in a world of coach commerce and pleasure and liquor and sex are all intimately and uncritically entwined and everyone is having a wicked good time. It's a world in which i normally don't travel and ryan my ticket in when he runs out to his car for a last minute t shirt resupply. I realized that this is my chance to try my hand and i get a tray of shots from the woman who's been helping ryan and i start making the rounds shots. You want to try one one of these therapists tequila from my friend symbol on shot. Oh yeah okay. Let's go and i do follow her but when we find her friends and they all just stare at me. Maybe it's not clear. Why say do you want free tequila and they say no thanks driver. I if there's one thing that should not be hard to give away in a bar. It's free drinks and yet as i go from corner to corner. No one is drinking off my head known as is pulling out of my parent's part of the problem is i'm not ryan. Maybe i should shave my head and loosen up a little but beyond that but i don't realize realize until i'm out there doing it is as much as i love to drink and as much as i love jose cuervo tequila and as much as i'd love another free trip to cuervo nation. I feel weird pushing. Some big companies message that slamming down shots is a great game. The drinking always equals fund which even ryan knows isn't exactly true because one thing i haven't mentioned yet and probably should have is that ryan doesn't drink at least not anymore. <music> swallow his job so it's not odd then. I'll have some more little no. It's not a crime. Sometimes we all need up jason wannabe blender. That's been around too tasty. Margarita bouza dickey part of ryan's <unk> act is writing new lyrics existing rock songs the describe the pleasures of drinking clear of a or give very precise directions on how to do a body shot. Here's an example unquote shots with or without training wheels. Cuervo doesn't hurt you know heels. It's a little unnerving to hear knowing that the person who wrote these lyrics. This is the same person who quit drinking more than a year ago in part because he was afraid that it might kill him. He was kicked out of a hotel in florida for throwing a table off the balcony and saint louis he blacked out in the middle of promotion and a cuervo nation. He got so loaded. He cursed out an elderly guest he was supposed to be entertaining. It was an older guy lina sixties and they were like professional contest winners and he's talking at dinner about like all these other contests you want and how like this one was nicer than this one and in boulogne. It sounded like he was complaining. A little bit about something and i was like why don't you shut up so free fricken trip old man dan okay. Why don't you take your professional contest winning attitude and shove it up your in the next day. I woke up like i know i said something off. In the problem for ryan was that in most cases that is very bad to be caught drinking on the job but in ryan's case it only made the more successful the wilder drunker he got more bars wanted him back the more back and what amazes me is that at the time ryan was deciding to get sober cuervo asked him to sign on for another one hundred promotional gigs over the course of the coming year and ryan said how about one fifty. It's every weekend almost half. The years spent in bars tequila on his head to kill us spilling down his face. It must be like eve working in the apple factory factory. That's owned by snakes. How does it feel as someone who doesn't drink anymore to be confronted on a nightly basis with people who might be the drunken hurting meeting former u <hes>. I just don't think about it all that much because <hes> there's nothing i can do about it either way and i don't know i think that's it. I mean i can't make any judgment. I mean there's there's nobody that i could tell you like that. Guy needs to stop drinking and know it for sure. I can certainly say that guy reminds me of me. You know that that happens a lot <hes> but when it comes down to the dow it's up to them. It's just it's not my call. <music> ryan's one hundred fifty day bar hop for cuervo is almost over his current contract is coming to a close and he's now working working on a new project. I'm sonic shape. You'll get with the panasonic sonic shaving. This is a television television ad for the panasonic sonic shaver max electric shaver in which ryan plays a character called sonic man. He got the gig from someone who saw him doing cuervo promotion promotion and a lot of it's the same he jumps around in public costing people yelling at them convincing them of the superiority of this particular brand of shaver by hopping into fountains from getting sprayed hose but if it sounds as if there's no difference i think of this first people do not generally drink while they're shaving and second ryan actor now an actual actor with national exposure a good agent making decent money so the backup plan is brought him back to his original plan and i'm happy for him but also kind of sad. I'd put it this way. I still kinda wanna be cuervo man but i don't think i'd ever wanna be sonic. Man the fact is ryan's leaving something behind the booze obviously and that's a good thing but also the bacchanalian power of the booze danger. The contradictions made clear bowman. Oh man more than a day job but a kind of inspired extension ryan himself which is to say kind of art is on the head. I wonder now that he's the actor he always wanted to be will ever get a rolling as good as the ones already played. Throw this chimera throw this brought onto my plunger. Throw the frisbee. Another plunder got you got you got that story and this week's entire program first broadcast back in two thousand and two since then coronation has caused down ryan now lives in long beach california with his wife and five year old son. He says he's been sober for eighteen years now and he has gotten some as an actor. Yes plan a kicked in kind. Wait just wrapping up work on an indie film that he wrote and acted in called last night in rasi john hodgman as a new book coming out in a few weeks called medallion status bride rise would limit the inside song tao. Turn it inside out. Find nothing but to why talk here's the situation that many of us have been in and confused about what to do you start you become friends with somebody from work and then you run up against this problem which occurs action of some sort and a new plan and i've been to one of our producers started kind at her last job with a woman named robin we had just met and we'd go out for like drinks and stuff after work. We really like each other and we wanted to like. We like kind and decided we were going to be like new really good friends. You know but you know we. We didn't know anything about each other. So we start to tell each other things you know the problem was we were just so busy never enough time to tell each other the the big stories my life and at that point your friend came up with a plan b she did she got to the point where she would start to tell stories and she get really frustrated by how much headed tell then choose like. Just i'm just i'm just gonna tape and so <hes> i at one point i was going home to LA. I'm from LA and then right before i left for LA she like just like here you go. Here's your tape and i started listening to it and like it was true. She likes started by saying okay so now. I'm gonna do my ex-boyfriend montage all right. I'm not gonna starve when i was a kid but i am going to just give you a little background history with a guy thing. <hes> i'm gonna try to stay close to the truth as possible drag up cigarette. That's right there all right. It is all ex-boyfriends all the way they affected her and how it changed her and and and just like all the little detail thrown in it very thorough and in very complete and i definitely get a sense of of the boyfriend with ken and ken was hockey player he was not the smartest guy in the world and he could only describe our relationship in hockey metaphors like robin is like when you're skating toward the goal and you think you've got it but you don't and it's like a puck that hit you want but you i mean the whole the whole goal of it is so nice and touching that she wanted me to know this about her and then she put his time into making this like catalogue offer life so that i could could could know her better but tony and i would go to all these sort of like prestigious art openings and he would always get drunk and start raving this. I can do this better order. This is and he would walk around and just he he just couldn't understand contemporary art work and i really can't either so i could kind of understand <hes> and and these we go to these installations where the whole room would just be like one big deng ball and he would like scream. This is really because it was you know and then on on side b she starts she has a list of the other things that she wanted me to know and they're really really really small things and they're just like like i had this dream once and i actually you should know this. This is like i get afraid when people are choking and restaurants and you like dislike tiny like a couple of sentences and you've got to listen she kind of checking it off as she goes along but anyway the one i didn't have which i wasn't allowed to have a dog so i would steal the neighbor's dog muffin and i had this really think i told you about the dream where where a woman had eighty two household objects lodged in her body and i'm still trying to figure that one out and throw up story great don't feel like talking about it the teeth story and then after that she takes her on a tape recorder and then she gets other people to talk on your tape. Yes she walks around. It has people say hello to me and she says we use say happy birthday to my seventy five year old grandmothers darlie and complete strangers total strangers. It's just you're just like random people on the street from my grandmother's rally for his seventy fifth birthday say hi starling starling thank you yeah. I know you're in a rush. I can see you're running high starlet of i okay thank you and making it's made for my grandmother's seventy fifth birthday and her name strategy. Could you just say hi darling. Stall your eight year. So did this do what you wanted to do. I think so for sure yeah it. It totally felt like the perfect solution to the problem of making friends as as you get older you know because like it's really as you get older. I'm not that old but like the thing i miss most as an adult is is time is like time is so valuable now and you don't get to have the same conversations that you did. When you were like in high school where you'd be on the phone with someone for like eight hours a night or you'd like to stay up all all night long until every single thing that ever happened to and there was even less that had happened to you because you were like fifteen years old and it was just like so much talking so much bonding bonding bonding bonding ending and as an adult you just don't have the chance to do that very much and the now now now. We're really good friends. You know like since then like i mentioned all of her references you you know like i. I feel like i've known her much longer than i have it but but it isn't isn't kind of the point of being friends with somebody that when they tell you this information that it happens in a conversation conversation that that's the background for the friendship that that actually is a chip yeah i mean i mean some convince sure but but as far as like the pass stuff stuff i feel like it's not that big difference sometimes because like it gets to point where you just have all these kind of bottled stories like i got just boyfriend did this. I have this boyfriend he did this and it meant this meant that and it's like why not put those stories on a cassette tape tesla and listen to all owens sterling kind coming up sock sock puppets dialing for steak and kidnapping as plan b in a minute from chicago public radio when our program continues support for this american life comes from squarespace. 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Bring you a variety of different kinds of stories on that theme today. Show plan b stories of people ditching their expectations and living inside a backup plan as most of us. Do we have arrived at at three three of our program three when kidnapping is plan b even now i think barry keenan has a hard time thinking of himself as a kidnapper. You grew up in southern california. Malibu went to high school with children of movie stars and other super rich people and if you could say that he had a plan for his life he achieved a lot of it by the age age of twenty two it was the early nineteen sixties he was the youngest member of the los angeles stock exchange. He had successfully put together some real estate deals. He was making a lot of money but it also i started drinking heavily and became addicted to pirka dam and other painkillers it course if you're drinking and taking strong painkillers you get very numbed out and <hes> on a good day you might have an hour a rational thinking quote unquote rational thinking and then also the market had a big downturn in in <hes> late sixty two early sixty three and my real estate deals went sour in a period of six months i went from earning about <hes> <hes> in the neighborhood of ten thousand a month nineteen sixty three dollars to <hes> <hes> trying to sell the transparent window shades door to door to stores in the middle of the does and it's nineteen sixty three. You're how old at that point twenty three so you've gone broke your twenty three and then you come up with this plan b. Well well one day. I decided well. I have to do something radical and in my demented state suddenly it came to me the the way to solve my problems was to get some money somehow and it would have to be illegally because is obviously incapable of raising money for my real estate projects and securities projects so i came cross kidnapping was seemed like a good idea and i put a business plan together and went to my <hes> wave kidnapping good idea and you put put a business plan together. I was very business oriented and it was. I never referred to it as a kidnapping. It was going to be that was the plan of operation was kind of like an underwriting a securities underwriting but i had to go take somebody's kid in order to raise the money to invest in business propositions and then of course in order to being being a good catholic the only way i could get rid of the sin was to pay the money back ultimately y- as you say that kidnapping seem like a reasonable option wasn't there any any part of it that kind of horrified you know because in my <hes> in my drug induced state you might say <hes> it <hes> it i knew i wasn't going to hurt anybody and therefore it wasn't going to be a crime as far as my moral character was concerned and as as long as i was willing to pay the money back and was absolutely not going to hurt anybody. Then seem like it was okay so it's who you decided to kidnap well. I went down the list of all the wealthy people i knew and who had kids that i knew there was vicky douglas whose father was CEO of douglas aircraft that was eliminated because she was a girl. <hes> jim mitchum knew me too well and his father robert mitchum <hes> you know he was rich one month and then broke the next <hes> and <hes> then arthur lake whose father was <hes> johnny weissmuller on all these these people that had famous parents and you know i went down the list then finally i thought a nancy cordes nancy sinatra the oldest daughter of frank sinatra and <hes> so then i of course junior and of course i say junior and i'm referring to frank sinatra junior frank senior in your son and had you met him before i had seen him i mean <hes> new nancy in high school and and junior high and <hes> have been to her home several several times and knew that the son who's away at boarding school was sort of distant from the girls. The girls were doted upon the junior was always sort of like out the picture. How much ransom money will you're going to ask for <hes> two hundred and forty thousand that i made a list of all the money we needed both for investments and the help my parents listen. <hes> came out two hundred and forty thousand dollars since i was going to have to pay it back. I didn't wanna raise more money than i could easily pay back and you i decided you wanted to you're gonna take the money and then you're going to do what to make it back. I was going to invest in real estate projects in west los angeles and in the specific stocks i was gonna invest in chrysler at the time which was in the toilet and <hes> of course made a spectacular comeback and various several different in stocks and some real estate which ultimately became marina del rey the world's largest marina and <hes> i in fact if i you know by some miracle it ever gotten the money and ended ended effect invested. It turned out the way i had it outlined to my business plan so the investments were actually fairly prudent. It just was the concept concept was a little off and so it's you were going to take this capital. You were going to invest in this stuff and then you're going to make a profit over. I guess a couple years right that'd be about it was a five year plan and then at the end of five years you were going to give the money back to sinatra you'll send the money back to frank sinatra and just imagining the reaction action that he and the FBI would have when the ransom money starts coming back to them and ju just explain how how the plan of operation was going to go how the whole thing would come off where everybody would be at the end how how was an index <hes> in a three ring binder with <hes> indexes and <hes> one of the sections was the benefit to the sinatra family and and <hes> we'll bring father and son closer together and at the time sinatra was being investigated for his connections with the mob and money laundering through the cal neva lodge and <music> sands casino in las vegas and i thought well this might even help them there. You have it how his image yes help help because i felt that if the public would perceive him as worried parent rather than a <hes> a famous singer hanging out with the mafia would this cast them in a more favourable image. That was one of the things that i listed in the benefit to the sinatra family. You know the thing that plan berry is is that <hes> in a way. It's utterly logical. It just proceeds from a premise that's so crazy <hes> saying people don't wake up one dayan decided to go kidnap the most famous entertainer in the world who has known mafia connections and so you're going to have the FBI and the mafia after you the the same people don't do that particularly thinking that they're going to benefit the victims as well as their own family on ashbury kennedy tummy what happened when he tried to put put his plan into effect and do the kidnapping he's at such pains to get the truth of it across to me and to prove especially that the blame for the crime falls entirely on him and onto pals at he enlisted help with kidnapping at the story is filled with far too many details takes far longer than we can spend here suffice it to say that it was a comedy of errors ars in december of nineteen sixty three the twenty-three-year-old keenan and a friend nab the nineteen year old frank sinatra junior was performing lake tahoe. Keenan accidentally left his gun in sinatra's hotel room. He didn't have any cash to buy gas or the getaway car. During the getaway his buddy jo climbed out of the car into a snowstorm and knocked himself out by running into a tree branch ranch when the cod frank sinatra senior demanded ransom snatcher offered them a million dollars and they tried to talk him down to two hundred forty thousand because that's what it said in the plan. We sent frank to a gas station payphone to get the next instructions about how to get a son back so you know frank sinatra is not senior and the FBI go racing down the carson city thirty minutes away and in about fifteen minutes. John started calling for frank sinatra to the gas station and the mechanic at the gas station who was busy and by himself. <hes> kept answering the phone and this caller was asking for frank sinatra the most famous entertainer in the world time and the guy got very angry. When this caller was calling back time and again for frank sinatra he thinks it's funny franco encore thinks it's a prank of some sort and so as soon as she hung up from the third time after letting john habit with four letter words the he before he even gets back to his car in screeches to FBI cars and frank sinatra senior jumps out of the car and says my name's frank sinatra had any calls and you can imagine the the reaction that that poor mechanic had so finally one more time john callback and this time frank answered the phone and john's told them what the next step was going to be buried did it did it occur to you that the person who you're kidnapping and their family would be traumatized and frightened no because the way that the plan of operation was designed and the way i wrote it out in the script it was always supposed to be just between frank sinatra senior frank sinatra junior my group of people and the FBI the the mother and sisters were not to be involved the kidnapping and and <hes> based upon what i knew about frank sinatra senior in the family and so forth. I did not think that he would let his wife know if he thought the kidnapping was going to be resolved in a matter of a few hours i wonder if the fact that you constructed such an elaborate web of logic with <hes> your business plan that made the kidnapping seems so reasonable and even good for this and actress. I wonder if that prevented you at the time from comprehending ending what you were putting them through. You know absolutely i had it so rationalized and justified. I had god's approval in this thing was being divinely blessed. I was the sign that it had god's approval. Why couldn't dot god talk to me. Particularly when i go to church and light a candle and be still and would here you know oh god talking to me and say telling me what i had to do and he was very definite about nobody can be hurt and <hes> had to pay the money back as you got in older and sobered up and gotten wiser. Does god's still talk to you own. Oh no that went away when i got sober and also got psychiatric edrich help so <hes> you know when i hear voices nowadays. I don't pay any attention to him. After successfully getting two hundred forty thousand dollars hours in ransom money and returning nitra juniors safely home barry keenan accomplices were caught canaan was sentenced to life plus seventy five years but was released after just is four years because a psychiatric evaluation found that he was legally insane at the time of his crime. He returned to the real estate business. We was wildly successful became a millionaire a few years ago. He sold his kidnapping story to the movie studios for several times more than the original ransom now should his papers indicating that all of his profits from the sale would go to charity and end says it he agreed to a movie deal only to set the record straight about a lie that he told during his trial back in the nineteen sixties back then he says he spread a rumor that the kidnapping snapping was only a publicity stunt staged by the sinatra's and not a real kidnapping under the son of sam law which says that convicted felons cannot make a profit from from selling their own stories. Frank sinatra junior challenged keenan's contract with the movie studios in february two thousand two the california supreme court ruled in keenan's favor favor clearing the way for the movie to be made but it never was studio columbia pictures. Put the project on hold and then in two thousand and three showtime. Oh time made the story into a film with william h macy and david arquette very keen and got no money from the deal all of me. Why not take <hes> me. Can't you see i'm no good without you. Take my lips. I want x. Four fate must've career years ago living in canada. Jonathan goldstein had a job selling the montreal gazette newspaper over the telephone the normal kind of plan b that most of us have had at one point or another and when he took the job he did not realize that it would become a ten year chapter in his life when you're a little kid. You never decide that one day. You're going to be a telemarketer the marketer. It's not something that you plan. It just happens like the way going. Ball just happens or the way falling down. A flight of stairs just happens one minute. You're at the top of the landing and the next you're at the bottom and you'll be damned if you can remember each one of the individual steps that lead you between the two all during the time. I was working at the gazette. I found it nearly impossible to bring myself to tell anyone. I was a telemarketer when people asked what it was i did i did for a living i simply say that i was a salesman and when they asked what it was that i sold i would say dreams and then i would look at them for a moment physically then i would say that it was only joking and then they would say oh and i would become uncomfortable and then they would become uncomfortable then they would stop asking me anything as you might expect. The hard thing about working at kazan was that there was just so much rejection. Even though you're calling almost two hundred people day ninety eight percent of whom wanted to see dead you still had to bring a certain hopefulness to each each call a feeling that this one the call you were making right now could be the one who is almost like trying to hypnotize yourself into believing that something is certain to say gravity avenue didn't exist and the next time you drop the apple. It won't fall to the ground but it will float up into the sky like a helium balloon. I would often pretend the people on the other end of the line were sock puppets to soften the sting of their hang up. I went shared. This thought with a girl who had just started working there. Pretend there's a little sock puppet on the other end and i encouraged all cute with code. Button is holding the phone in his mouth. She considered the logic of this moment. How does he talk with a phone in his mouth she asked and for this. I really didn't have an answer. Uh in the pitching room we all wore these headsets that were connected to computers. As soon as we hung up the computer automatically dialed the next number so that we were always we speaking to someone without respite our boss was a man named ray and if you may two or three sales a day then you're doing okay and raiwind screaming you generally. I found the repetitious job comforting. You're never at a loss for words. You always know what you're going to say because what you were going to say is hi. My my name is jonathan and i wanted to know if you're interested in reading the gazette newspaper one time a woman who answered the phone would not believe i wasn't a friend of hers named christopher. Stop playing around christopher. She said but i'm not christopher i responded. Will you cut it out christopher. After several minutes of this. I had to hang up on her. I knew christopher was going to get it for that. From my very first week at the gazette i was surprised to discover that i had a natural gift for sales <music>. Whatever i was and whatever aspirations i had before i started working there. I became an instant gazette legend sometime selling up to ten subscriptions in the course of shift. I got on the phone with people and make them want to listen. I joked with the men in flirted with women. I generally cajoled them bundling them up in my good strong telemarketing the arms and tossed them up into the air scream delightedly only to land back down with a brand new gazette subscription i would look around me at the other sad sacks and the pitching room and wonder how they could go on to scraping by with their two or three sales day telemarketing had been my backup plan but now i found myself faced with the uncomfortable fact that it was what i was truly good at. I got myself a lucky ballpoint pen and spend half days pay on a fancy attache-case put my leads in even at a special way filling out the order forms that involved clear capital letters and xs never checks in the boxes marked visa or mastercard. There was a bell on raised ask for when you made a sale ale and when i'm at a sale i had a special way of hitting it with the balls when my fingers that made it sound as crisp and clean as i always kept to the one tap for sale rule aw i respected the bill not like some of the other guys who rang the crap out of it like they were five year olds writing their first two wheeler in the office manager was ending. Billy billy was fat mouth greek man in a skintight hawaiian shirt. One of billy's jobs was to keep us inspired with pep talks. Billy would explain to us when he first started working at the gazette he was sitting right where we were and that now now he makes as much money as a plumber and in fact we all had the opportunity to make as much as a plumber. I'm going out and eating a big fat steak tonight. He would say just like the way at the end of the day. A plumber does eventually as happens to to all the mighty. I fell even now. I can't explain it hubris. My diet perhaps started taking myself too seriously and lost my sense of fund and who knows but whatever the case i suddenly found myself so desperate for sales that at the end of a shift still with nothing i would order the paper to my own address and then cancel salaam following week. It's a very real thing the stink of desperation it's an actual odor and people can smell it over the phone line your jokes. It's become a little more hurried. Enforced your confidence a little more false. Your pauses more awkward. I soon found myself gazing longingly at the filled out order sheets clutched watched in the fist of the new office superstar. A seventeen year old. Who's phone name was candy who'd stroll past my desk coming taking care of business now now. When i came back from the bathroom during my shift ray would ask me what the hell took so long. The toilet was for closers in a few weeks ago. I got home and found this on my answering machine when the telemarketer realized that that there was no one there to pitch to he stopped himself but i want you to listen again and notice the long pause before he actually puts the phone down yeah. He says hello he inhales and before he puts the phone down. He pauses as someone who sold over the telephone close to ten years. I can tell you that the pause between the hello and the hangup is a moment of reprieve you start to talk. You realize you've got an answering machine and then before you actually hang up you steal a moment you take shelter in those few seconds before you hit the hang up button and the onslaught of automatically dialed phone numbers begins anew delivering the voices of people who will very soon hate you directly into the earphones of your headset and straight into your brain rain i played the message over and over listening to it not to better here the chaos of the pitching room but to try and imagine what was going through his head ed and at the same time i tried to remember what went through my own head during those positives that moment in a horror film with a guy who's having his head held hell down in a bathtub of water pops up one last time and goes before he is pushed back down around forever since the numbers were automatically dialed. You never knew who is going to pop up in your headset. One time i got my friend mark zalin occur on the phone. A guy who i hadn't seen in years mark was in my junior high phys ed class. He used to get so excited while playing hog ball that he clutched the ball to his chest and roll around the floor drooling. I tried to keep them on the phone as long as possible. Never saying who i was gleaning whatever i could about his life. I could hear his kids playing around trying to steal the phone from him and all throughout was shocked by how unfailingly decent he was with me. I felt like the anonymous stranger who shows up on christmas day to test a family's kindness. Mark didn't buy the paper but he didn't rush me off either. It felt good to know that mark zalin occur had grown up to be a really nice man. There was also one time. I got my grandmother. After several minutes of talking about how weird it was that i had gotten a number out of all the numbers in the city. She told me that she you just learned that morning that my grandfather's cancer had come back. I looked across the room. Were billy. The manager was eating french fries and someone else was ringing the bell on raised ask after i hung up the phone with her not a second later. Another call popped into my headset hi. I'm calling from the gazette. I said my grandfather would be dead within the year and then one day. I got my own number. I can't explain it better than to say that. Having that happened is sort of like rounding the corner running into yourself at first. You don't quite recognize that it's you you look a little shorter and less handsome but then all of a sudden in one naked instant here face to face with yourself. I was telemarketing dog that it caught its own telemarketing tail while the message that i left myself because he just can't resist leaving yourself a message when something like here i am god this is awful. This is horrible. This has to mean something but of course it didn't mean anything and then for the next several seconds. I listened to the silence on the other end of the line my own line as i worried about the rapid-fire calls would start again the moment i hung up when when i got back home i had exactly two messages on my machine. One was the message for myself. I was surprised by how the background noise was behind me and how much smaller i sounded than i'd imagined all these years. The other message was from my mother. She was imploring me to go back to school and become a speech therapist. Johnny goldstein is the host of the podcast heavyweight. Who's new season in starts. September twenty six five the occurs at items. It's not just human beings who fail to achieve the fate that they thought that fate had in store for them miss. Everything does most everything eventually ends up somewhere that it was not designed to go serving a purpose that it was not meant for even if that purposes just landfill we ended up program today with his brief inventory from jay robert lennon of inanimate objects who have left their planet far behind and now inhabit a permanent plan b a bottle of pain reliever brought on a business trip that proves at the moment it is most needed to be filled not with pain reliever but with buttons and accomplished forgery of famous painting that was thought to have been lost in a nineteen sixty five mansion fire which now hangs in the largest gallery of a major american art museum sneakers hanging hanging from the power line with one half of a boy's broken glasses stuffed into each show a minnie mouse doll you found by the roadside and brought home intending to run it through the washer and give it to your infant son but which looked no less forlorn after washing and was abandoned on a basement shelf only to be found. 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163 - The Church of Satan

Timesuck with Dan Cummins

2:46:50 hr | 1 year ago

163 - The Church of Satan

"The person who takes every opportunity to pick on others is often mistakenly called sadistic in reality this person is misdirected masochist WHO's working towards his own destruction and the reason a person viciously strikes against you is because they are afraid of you or what you represent or resentful of your happiness hello and happy Monday called the curious I'm Dan Komen Suck Nasty lean out help holding out help dot org provides those you come from polygamist culture the resources needed to transition from isolation to independence Lincoln Lambs Rhody Nimrods Altar boy loose Athena's sacrificial lamb and you're listening to time suck recording dungeon today gang's all here Reverend Dr Horse Koch Johnson the Dark Lord himself or say even worship Satan find out by now today on a Hailu Fina addition of time suck back mass Q.. Spooky music queued goosebumps feel the flames of hell is Halloween Week and who better to suck on the worshippers of emp bite him on their ankles or something now what I expect it today's episode not what I expected going in at all and I love when that happens I love it when I was totally wrong ritual murder a tale of satanic possession so you want to spook head over to scared to death you want a deep dive on Antonova Church of Satan's beliefs will you stay right here today's ahead of the shows Solid hundred suckers came out to that early show on Saturdays well so please keep tagging the preview videos at You know at times podcast or scared to death podcasts on facebook and Instagram tag friends share those bids so new people can you know like what you like Joe pay kills videos thank you if you are already do that long about what I thought something was thought one way entire life do a bunch of research and then like Oh okay okay it's exact opposite of West thing you're GONNA learn a lot about pretty solid counseling advice does a reference Burn your enemy alive with Hellfire or setting a legion of Demons upon them to Nash and tear apart their immortal soul I mean he didn't even reference heaven and You know if you WANNA speak your story today suck for Halloween checkout scared to death making this week's episode about Satanism as well On that show a tale of actual satanic and thanks again to the fans yeah who came out to Poland's past week doing that again Columbus Ohio funny bone this Friday and Saturday November this is Michael McDonald and you're listening to Time Sutton in the episode description if you'd like to learn more or donate more yourself and thank you again for the recent ratings and reviews for time suck and also scared to death every rating and review helps so much and you guys they tannock rules of the earth the nine satanic sins and the evolution of the church over the decades also walk through the most infamous of satanic rituals the satanism today and if you're already pretty familiar with it I think you're going to be pretty surprised we're going examine Antanas legend in today's time line we'll over the tenets of the faith he formalized including the eleven as long as high priestess harmony camp script keepers act flannery queen to Suck Lindsey Cummins Lindsey to co host of scared to death another bad magic productions podcast really been spreading suck wow this last week Portland Oregon was fucking crazy so many times lockers somebody's scared to death listeners to and five sold out shows added a six it's GonNa Weird and funded a big thanks again all the spaces all hail the spaces last reminder that were given thirty two hundred dollars this month on behalf of Patriots on to first and second looking at a lot more fun than off to comedy works in Denver Colorado November seven to the ninth to do it another time plus record a little special album of old BITs for Sirius Xm plus going to live and he'll kids Cole Time Suck on 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those who support the suck how sweet Zet Hail Nimrod now time for Satan bills above bafflement the prince of darkness the King Allies Berkeley Affairs for which science and religion had no explanation and no control and yes I do see how through Christian Lens that dark hidden the Naughty Gord the cloven hoof ransack are from powder wolf rusty tracker all right now just saying we're the rhymes you know most of the time I could absolutely be interpreted as the Christian devil so in that sense maybe he did worship the devil even if he didn't think he did I hear you Christians I get it materialists rejecting the existence of supernatural beans body soul Dulas and life after death practitioners do not believe that Satan literally exists and do not worship him did not expect that instead Satan is viewed as a positive archetype representing Pride Karnali and enlightenment he is also an day I say Okay Satan today is the day let's do it I want to kick this off by sharing an important quote to keep in mind throughout this episode and the Church of Satan didn't even believe in Satan the most of us think of to quote him again he believed Satan's representative dark hidden force in nature that was responsible for the working hold with Social Darwinism an anti egalitarianism Abraham religions are Islam Judaism and Christianity by the way and since I didn't know what Egalitarian really be full of shit if I didn't keep my mouth shut my bowels open this quote is lifted right on the Church of Saint Zone website and he's not hitting the dude lied all of the time vache founded the Church of Satan father of the you know the Lavalin satanism once said I'm one hell of a liar most of my adult life I've been accused of being it sounds more like a selfish but not not entirely irrational philosophic outlook more than a religion so Yeah Right Devil the Church of Satan is the religious organization dedicated to Satanism as co defied in the Satanic Bible and how is satanism defined by the Church of Satan not like most of what we are about to learn about has less to do with the devil more to do with Anton live as well-crafted self orchestrated legend. That doesn't mean it won't be interesting it's very interesting the found of course they didn't happen according to the fact age you cannot even define evil without discussing good therefore the two are inseparable believes in survival of the fittest darwinistic thinks it self interest is foundational morality which is subject US use me subjective it would be the most concise and thorough summary. I can find actually comes straight from the LE`veon's Satanism wikipedia page they some of the best saying the religion is one cannot understand darkness without experiencing light the definition of good and evil the subject to change because it exists only as a perception good are the things we like evil obligates a naturalistic worldview seen mankind animals existing in a moral universe it promotes a philosophy based on individualism and egoism aww phony and imposter I guess it makes me about as close to what the devil supposed to be as anyone it's true I like constantly incessantly because ally so often oh I mean come on come on got to be true doesn't it maybe they'll admit what they really believe on their official website page called satanism central the without a threat of an imaginary supernatural being wrecking wreaking havoc on an offender okay all right well it raised as a symbol of defiance against Abrahamic religions which LE`veon's criticized for suppressing humanities natural instincts and encouraging irrationality the religion language disseminate pornography or advocate reckless drug use we did not promote harm to children or pets why not come on dot com doesn't seem any evil than the one I just read from a couple couple of Satanic Church a website out there at church Satan Dot org behind such labels we look on religion is the starter of wars and the breeder of hate and intolerance we believe that people are intelligent enough to instill moral and ethical codes into a societal structure. It means I'll find that for you as well the doctrine that all people are equal and deserve equal rights and opportunities so say does not think that people are created equal we also regret to inform you that this is not a criminal organization terrorism is discouraged and physical violence is necessary only would involve self defense would you not use trying to hide it keep listing find out if you dare who even laugh if if I talk about Satan you know if I bring him up in day to day life it's a little bit of a not today Satan have that a little plaque in the in the suck dungeon but but not today the things we dislike alphand depends on who are what you are here we go with that egoism again is Diane Vera says if your mouse cats are hideous monsters but the pedal that I was kind of hoping it would make from a Christian point of view Satan is evil because he represents the savage instincts they are attempting to hide suppress sadness or truth seekers and desire to one of the questions is do you worship evil now we're getting somewhere and when I click that link fucking buffer matt himself arose in front of me to puff smokes Lee San Francisco was a Meyer of ignorance stupidity and Gal terrorism loves that word I created my own world the Church of Satan that's the only way I could survive it turned out to be use across for a dildo dress up like none or priest and fuck a bunch of strangers brains out your kind of real bummer that way or are they really evil and just you'll testament more violent and sex crazed and that I mean doesn't even seem like they promote drug-fuelled orgies I mean they're not against orgies but they're not demanding that you put on a goat head mask served best by eliminating the intermediary and worshiping ourselves directly to ride in the Satanic Bible in sixty nine continued writing a Satanic Trilogy Satanic Movement headed by Lavar came at a time when America was a divided nation with the pot-smoking antiwar hippies on one side the externalised representations of humankind's ego therefore religionists are in essence worshiping themselves Lemay suggest since you've been kind seems to crave ritual and Dogma we owner cats are heavenly therefore evil is not an essence it is a value judgment actually make sense is way more sense workup some of his own rituals that will be blasphemous Lee positive and exciting he would say I realized there was a whole gray area between psychiatry and religion that have been largely untapped sixty six cantons cloven-hoofed organization become the center of a media circus they became a satanic celebrity after awhile and down got tired of simply mocking Christianity and decided amy. That's now you believe in I fucking get it I know you babies you fuck which is orgies you drink the blood of virgins to sacrifice the priest transform two goats at he may not have leaving God or ironically Satan but like cultist in previous sucks subject Alister Crowley before he did believe in real applied magic he right after a word from today sponsor so time suck is brought to you today by Hymns Hymns Goodnight wrinkle cream is the only thing keeping me from looking thousand years old x one is What did I just say I I wanted to remember Oh man Dang it notes to outs church-state dot org now they say now you just showed it because it is evil incarnate the great bafflement each of worlds and they walk on cloven hoofed feet over my favorite charity the Church Satan seems to be you know the source of less sex scandals in other type scandals in many televangelists have engaged in and stolen less money from her faithless wealth with the Faulk finally nineteen seventy-two the satanic rituals were published as a companion to live as first book comprehensive collection of what he deemed history's best authentic black magic rituals lady prevalent for New Standard Special prepping for a separate Sirius Xm recording touring each weekend keeping three podcast going each week in addition to not completely ignoring my awesome family has sounds super dark we'll find out how dark all this stuff is when we go over these books in a black mask ritual and a little bit of detail later within a year and a half of its creation the spring L. 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D. prescription products Colt Suck and what did you think of the counterculture revolution he said I considered the sixties and seventies a baron aesthetically destructive era America especially very evil possibly haunted most likely hyperbolic grain of salt April Eleventh Nineteen Thirty Antonova born with much less evil sounding name of let's get to a lot of info comes from the secret life of the sadist the authorized biography of Antonova by Blanche Barton pointing this out because oxidizer pharmacy remember that's four dot com slash time so key Lincoln episode description Anton Levay Devil Time Line Right now our stanton levay good call switching Howard to Anton right I am Anton High Priest of the fallen angel of Lucifer much better than I am. Wallace book seemed to provide some of the best details about Don's life it was also written by levay styles satanist and the mother of one of his children so let's take it all with very little sleep time for me this month life will get easier next month I'll get some rest until then him good night wrinkle cream has me looking like I at least sleep arpan music store like a savant and his parents started throwing more instruments added as a kid who would later tell people that he can play brass woodwinds strings percussion and instruments with piano yeah he's he's started to garner Goja not true very few hippie sweetness he was part of it though it was part of it let me explain his book the Satanic Bible the he considers all gods and have so much more than wrinkle cream forty percent of men aged forty struggle from not being able to get maintain erection why guys turn weird solutions or nothing when they can turn instead to medicine relocated the San Francisco Bay area soon after birth he was called Tony in his younger years which is even less evil sound in Howard whereas the dock princess dubbed Doctor Approval require an online consultation with a physician who will determine if a prescription is appropriate see website for full details and same formation Chicago one hundred if you went in person to the establishments suit and tie wearing brandy drinkers on the other America was a hotbed for conflict and for the founding of new ideas we recently visited that special time in America's history with the source family zestful liquor distributor kind of evil the devils drink raise Tony's they would any other bright even-tempered boy attempted to instill useful middle class values present in particular night 'cause the stores that sell it in calling today I know hours of everything's on have knowledge and stuff I was like you bastard Botham it you really are Satan no thirty nine hundred nine. San Francisco is hosting a world's fair in nineteen thirty nine and nineteen forty to celebrate amongst other technological marvels the Golden Gate Bridge it was called it will never come out and I was like why are you doing that and he grew up because I'm able when I'm donald during the last year favourite Gin Taylor dark chocolate you won't be able to have any you know religious beliefs upon him and tell was a musically inclined kid according to family legend in Nineteen thirty five at the age of five Anton while shopping with his parents he just started playing piece sound a little bit less evil right now more like more like a talented Dork Tony would later claim he began to be interested in Colt Nineteen thirty seven at only the age of seven engage international exposition and there was a very adult risk for the time show called Sally Rans Nude Ranch in the gateway funds zone portion of the expo and young and oh sax player with the name of Breezy Danny Breezy DC. Maybe just breezy now I would across the fuck out some smooth jazz with own the contemporary instrumentals charts was Ukrainian but he's spilled the myth not raising the Super Christian Household Tony did go to churches young boy claims to have lost interest in Christianity Entirely Ninety unsound even at all sounded very rational actually am I say there's a there's a lot of agreed with right there there's another website the Church of Satan being introduced to dark magic by his maternal grandmother a Transylvanian Gypsy but this is not true because she was not a gypsy or from Transylvania she on snuck in and watched topless cowgirls Spin Larry it's and pitch horseshoes for these twenty minutes before anyone found him and kicked him out he saw the devils nibbles Satan's hot sauce with the complete which later renamed the Satanic Witch Nineteen seventy-one better marketing writing so many copies of it was just a complete which and the people who'll say ten which started making his horrible sound is boy you above me and he was like sit on your chair and a stain in a small both derived from his Middle Name of Stanton ever occurred to me as a kid you know like around my name my wife Lindsey did that to change the spelling name she was like in third grade I thought Jim here's the hypocrites and soon he saw many of the Christians the same way by the age of ten in nineteen forty Anton ignored as I legal name of Howard entirely wanting to be called Anton instead of Tony and he said he started to apply its methods with great success but I'm by no one else is corroborated and this eleven year old boy hypnotized fools left to right in San Francisco nineteen forty males involves chosen pave the way for the return of the Anti Christ it is I how would now I think ain't done more evil born in Chicago in John's parents shrapnel new boots soldier were marching down a time suck time line Sunday school teachers boobs I those are some hot boobs they claim that this was his moment of disillusionment with Christianity later lead him towards satanism no path of Satan forces okay then I found William Mortensen the boundary pushing photographer who wrote the command to look and I realized this is magic this is what I was looking for but it can't be doc whereas Satan's wizard Tony Hey no but seriously has anyone seen Tony item in ours Gertrude Survey and her husband Michael was a six aces were topless you know that was about as evil Zagat the priests were really hot I mean all of that makes them more less he will you know I've been a lot of reasons and all I saw was junk casting a circle to protect yourself when I started devising my own rituals out of frustration with all I'd seen shaped glowing pentacle to attract the Hutchins Keke long hounds alongs hounds of Tim dos that's where I found food for thought that I couldn't find in the so called dangerous Dr I am this magazine called Weird Tales Hours Reading Stephen King Dean Koontz House Age Interesting Weird to think that I was reading darker shift in the future founder around the age of ten or eleven Anton read anything Dorky get his hands on stuff like Brand Stoker's Dracula Mary Shelley's Frankenstein most popular expression of the dark side of its probably based on some random movie basically wash HBO or showtime or Skin Amax was something I'd stand on my grandparents yard I thought was watching like nine or ten if I just focus hard enough I could actually shoot you know like fire from my hands you know that I can do some kind of magic superhero ship like I really thought for whatever reason I might actually be able to do that of the Church of Satan also around the time and got into the practice of hypnotism or maybe not he later claimed to have devoured Dr William Wesley Cooks practical lessons in hypnotism and maybe they didn't let it out because they were getting results okay so early on he doesn't believe in the stories of organized religion but he is open to the possibility of real magic existing somewhere else fireball glory they would love respect me then I grew out of that Anton did not grow to these thoughts fucking ever like not ever his whole life of magic had anyone call forth demons before their friends I thought surely they had it makes one believes that people probably were doing it on a carefully guarded underground level data at names what if what if I would alter my middle name of Brent something like breezy moved into the middle but Danny Breezy Danny Cummins I could've been mean surprise swing around free from God's oppressive bras that's what he became either he did soups the also saw his normally proper improved all kids Anton said he never had trouble making friends and his home was always full of kids expecting him to revise some interesting activities for the day I do love his imagination powerful imagination he he organiz mock military orders and secret societies but then get pissed off and the other boys broke character lost interest I love Ya come over to my place enthusing hell about what I was it was interesting to love interesting dots so digging and get to know Antonova as partake in this very important coal to the curious ritual the time suck time line has planned out the they had a good relationship with his parents they encourage is musical talents he'd say they pretty much let me do what I wanted and he seemed to be one seems much more likely to be again is just adding some earlier colt routes to make it appear he was destined to become the dock prints you know as young child he knew there's just a little book on photographic techniques I went through squabblings within myself but finally I realized this was real magic I relied more on fiction for Magical Truth lovecraft hails Satan Mom and dad no none of that it pretty smooth childhood the only real difficulty on face growing up according to himself was being armed with a huge wing not kidding why he claimed Zuhdi talked about ultimate humble brag and the biography written by his ex wife and during the world he's opening opening thinking there's like cool sorcerers and witches out there in all these powers you can harness which you nuts cool that's about as a kid when I was a kid I thought for a while spending all this time thinking about magic left Anton with the weird kid label and it wasn't a sports either as we must have been some social deviance despite Nabi one of the a pretty good kid he dabbled in the occult but didn't let parents find out saying I didn't tell them much about what I was doing because I didn't want them to worry so so far so much less doing bust up my stuff and then go home I get that more than I care for I didn't want my friends come over when I was a kid a lot of the time you know like if I play my Gi joes out in the dirt voted volunteered is written as with many young men who find themselves unusually well endowed quote on usually well endowed Anton felt self conscious to his his destiny was Satan Lavelli recalled having the following thousands of child I look through all the the grim wars manuals of magic used by supposed source room which is able than I expected he hasn't skinned any pets alive even told his parents to fuck off you know I am the dark Lord serves earth parents show have no dominion over me uh how cute girls in school you know how cool they think I was Kim doughty Holly Thomason Jackie Hardy Michelle Kosinski appears portal's even back then you know they see little Danny comments in his troop none of that happened I mean I know in theory that could happen I'm not saying it couldn't happen to somebody who you know it could be bad but this feels like some just juvenile fantasy now irv this massive testament to manhood that leaves other boys to spread vicious rumors about my childhood python that inevitably piques the interest of the most sexy undressing in front of other boys that poor bastard Satan why did God cursed me with this giant Donkey Dong what did I do to deserve I had it fucking setup perfectly it's been our get on my little guys in the right spot the whole battle plan doubts buddy cuyler you'd show up or brother chance says convinced the doctor to write him no excuse him from Jim so he can spend his ROTC and Jim periods in a special room far from the prying curious is of the hope from Anton Levay founder of the Church of Satan is that what you'd expect to hear from the guy who wrote they say Tannock Bible the black pope feels above high priests given walking ruin it no snakes would ever do that he's supposed to fight storm shadow stalker industy your crock master fucking de Strode cut dammit curious and adventurous girls at school why about Cross Talk Lord became aware of his uniqueness he grew to detest due Gordon deal if he complained of an ailment of the nurse any Ellen at all he was instructed takeoff pants every time guys he said I don't know if you two other boys a little makeup mirror and we just you know staring just gazing at his third leg vein kick stand while she pretended to can inspect your lipstick get the fuck out of here what young nurse being so overcome with lust that she just has to sneak Peek said young love as Horse Cock remembered Anton Documentary uh-huh claim that his dick was so impressive it even drew unwanted attention from the hot young school nurse he does discover it'd be like young yes I was too embarrassed to ask anybody else when Anton was taken off his pants he claimed his nurse would turn around discreetly to preserve his privacy but then they noticed she was always sneaking peeks interpersonal should get the other boys he called late and Thomas Sexual gung-ho types who would constantly stared his massive dragon tail in the locker room they eventually convince the doctors right now this is what he that would actively try to shoot fireballs out of my hand right I just I'm just pictures like odds if I if I could focus hard of PLO off these fireballs then and then I would naughty other locker room boys how dare let their mouths follow Gabe how dare they permit there is to Pearl Bulge out of their heads and powerful Fallas Anton would you that's a shame yes I've had my share of lady problems as well my friend my last ten girlfriends all of whom I was dating at the same time when they of course totally cool with it I had to break up with all of them tell lies this has to be one of those times it would be unbearable to talk to this guy to bar just one insane humble brag after another life left you feel gross and violated during the childhood the voting athletics reading about Magic Spine on women while they went to the bathroom hading being burdened with his Gargantuan lovely rock-hard giant perfectly symmetrical cock they can come and then immediately be super hard again you know sometimes early Teens Anton guidance also seems as if his uncle was locked up in prison at this time in the United States but what about these Nazi occultist did they exist yes he didn't make up that part as a fifteen year old does with her uncle a German interpreter explained that the films were more than fictional accounts but rather they were thinly disguised portrayals of Real Nazi occultist underage underground porno every had to have sex with ten or twenty of Germany's most beautiful women at the same time Anton said the film's pointed to a black order he remained interested in music allegedly went onto become a second noblest with the San Francisco Ballet Orchestra when he was just fifteen excuse me nineteen forty-five there are no records of this however the hypocritical peeping after complaining about having his own dog stared at or earns extra change picking up empty bottles around an outdoor dancing he says he discovered a hole for two to sleep maybe haven't maybe the summer thing I doubt it and on claims that during this trip he saw confiscated top secret Nazi Horror Films at a command post in Berlin so many models and beauty queens you know so many times and and one day no matter how much I gave them they always wanted more whole Tony's teams if young Howard spent the entirety of nineteen forty five in suburban North California and that not only did he not visit Germany as a fifteen year old he never visited Germany at any point your side and senator whenever he spied an interesting woman walking in to relieve herself this is his whose words again Oh my God I'm so sick of everyone trying to get a sneak peek attack Nazis let's take a peek. According to Anton in the spring of nineteen forty five and one of his uncles was hired as Villian engineered to rebuild airstrips the army addition right underneath the ladies room there was a gap between the floor and the front of the commode through which he could get a front row glance at any girl who happened to sit down and apparently Anton made sure he was from and actually plenty of evidence that this is another lie but he did become a musician so maybe the next claim of as is almost for sure ally but it's an interesting one that involves Satan worshippers whose members still the highest ranks of the Third Reich and learning to this order fueled Anton interest in the Cote now we tried to verify any of this actually happen mini fifteen-year-old Anton went with him because that makes sense you know just to head to Germany with your uncle what I imagine will be extended period of time for job we're supposed to be a high school a deep dive on this would be more befitting suck Nazi cultism or Nazi conspiracy something in that realm but it's too interesting not to talk naturally talk a little bit about here basically not as a tool and towns beaver Basha Le`veon's come gun Satan's Philippian squeegee I finally had to tell them I more than just one big always I'm surprised he didn't add that he was only allowed to see these films because Germans found out about his massive deviled along and they agreed to let him watch top secret footage only if he agreed to star Chisolm itself was type of a type of a Colt you know senator out a belief in Aryan destiny Aryan defined by the Nazis basically just being Germanic and Scandinavian which ironically not even the real definition of Aryan as much broader kind of raised the people term I was you know arrived in into the lexicon of people on Earth Hey hold on some little hot redheads heddon ladies room or I bet she trims it up this is going to be a good show now if I take out my caucus Jack and please do not stare at it makes to get access that it can aid them on their quest for world domination and this would lead the Nazis for legendary magical items like the arche covenant and the Holy Grail and it led some to worshiping you know there's this belief that the Aryans reign supreme and eventually cleanse earth of all of the races and some of the Nazis believed that they could access hidden occult magical power for the German police Third Reich Minister of the interior and one of the leading architects the Holocaust super into the dark arts he'd been interested in the occult since he was a kid at a nineteen Satan at least in some sense or incorporating some elements of what some people consider say tannock belief heinrich himmler top SS officer cheese thirty-three he bought a vivas Berg castle a Bavarian Renaissance Castle and he had it remodeled to become the strange s s cult activity in research headquarters like this did happen to nine hundred eighty six nine hundred forty one top Nazi party leaders would meet at this castle there's people studying weird shit there year round but these leaders would meet Himmler's command they would take part in satanic rituals read cultish text of Germanic Tribes Hitler kept expanding theology this little Cold War you know got ready to go on I annually put on nights gear sit around this roundtable channel various pagan heroes of German legends so fucking weird these Nazi dollar essentially liberating Germany from Roman rule according to some German legends one of the Castle's rooms also served as a center of worship for the holy grail and since early German the Indo European Black Sun symbol similar to a swastika the vehicles bird castle believed to be in the area where the German hero or menace defeated the Roman army in the year nine c. e. and Hitler envisioned myself as this kind of modern King Arthur and twelve of his SS officers with a twelve nights the roundtable like the reincarnated versions they would gather were not Christians Hitler rejected Christianity and incorporated Satanic cult elements his Colt as part of this rejection and he understood the importance of psychodrama and knew that cultist who came known in the West is Joseph Balsamo nor almost all historians have viewed Balsamo is a fraud conman imposter after his death while he lived now let's get back to his own mythology through his elective reading in a Colt Research Anton decided that three men had been truly successful at applying the devils tools to the benefit of their peanut butter sandwiches maybe channel the souls of Eagle in Rockdale off Brock may Satan glances power to the nine room's thirteen monkeys in the free French hand building rituals could foster loyalty to 'cause he wanted to be the leader of someday so that is what Levy is referring to so he wasn't Germany but he is referring to shit that did happen in Germany lives recent history was the guy we talked before Suck forty-seven Grigori Rasputin the wild eyed infamous Russian mystic who wasn't very good in the end and keeping the Bolsheviks from over like which with an image to Basil's power over women even has grandson named Stanton's Haruf was perhaps the most successful emergence of all time supplying weapons rival war merchants he planned to rumors to set friend against friend used the charms of beautiful women to defeat or tempt those he wished vase respect for Ohio grew even stronger turtle doves and the Partridge in the Pear Tree Hari Krishna Krishna he'll say ten just fucking whatever it is weird shit him and her the walls decorated with symbols when does ours he served and you also get murdered before that he had a good run now he tricked rush women into sexually serving him remember his own penis discovered that even after the highest death those who tried to expose his manipulations or criticize him often lost their jobs suffer health even death as if the horror was Dong and he's a supreme fighter all very legit he also dropped out of high school in Nineteen forty-six didn't need school anymore you don't you don't need a diploma to become dark wizard for the Boer War the Russo Japanese war the Balkan wars will were one born in Poverty Sahara of influence kings and parliaments eventually became a knight of the British Empire becomes more and more interested in the lives of magicians and literature of the Colt he starts studying judo supposedly the duke more studio in San Francisco he says he earned several belts by the end of nineteen forty you'd true black magicians today's mind Satan is he respected wanted to emulate guys who live selfishly guys who manipulate the beliefs and others you know to to serve their own that's important kind of thing to remember too like he really did think he didn't believe in deities but he did believe there was true magic you'd harnessing on this Earth Ninety forty six young Anton Anton looked up to as being a master of the Dark Arts Sir Basil the Haruf a Greek arms dealer and industrialist they was so influenced by Basil the opened his book say ten who lived for himself somebody who did what benefited him live by his own rules didn't care about morality in the way most of us think of it so he's bribes and tricks to beat out lives hair grow out sort of where leather jackets zoot suits hanging out round disreputable pool halls spend his time with gamblers pimps prostitutes hustlers pool sharks kept you know it's pretty simple he sneaks into the line and tiger cages and gives them fresh food and water and sneaks out before they call him to death okay least outside of the last six years of his life he spent prison at Bryn inquisition trial for heresy or Harris Heresy there we go he convinced the Royal Courts of Europe the ad psychic healing it was just so good at it he started beating other boys acids so easily with his judo mastery that they started accused him of cheating you you got it all right you got our lowest guy in the circus totem pole and as a cage boy responsible for feeding and watering the big cats cage boy sounds like a terrible job they said he became intrigued with the lifestyle possibilities of circus life while there are no employment record out there verifying Levin became an employee of the circus I'm absolutely open to this and clearly regarding at least this part of the circus experience he was full of Shit because he says he got so good at understanding tigers lines he was able to exert dominance as a sacrament and get women to give jobs thinking that that's how they were supposed to take the sacrament so I guess Satan helped him out a little bit there another man and on looked up to his eighteenth century Italian magician and basically mind control over them he was able to do shit like set a hammer down on the ground beside their food and then eats you know like a line would eat it mimicking their growling noises commute and screen abilities you know he'll use his mind fuck make gold at a dirt and he could see future except he couldn't do any of those things the Third Guy Sarah I'll do anything you gotta have some kind of job you just got us I need the money where we do need a new cage boy great I'll take it what does the cage and you know he learned how to become a satanic leader work in lion cage he'd later say I learned so much in the cage even getting knocked down taught me great lessons ends of the beliefs of others to serve their own ends and guys he thought actually had figured out how to use some kind of true magical powers now back to nineteen forty six what happened last cage boy to death of course according to Anton biography developed an immediate rapport with the lions tigers and in no time seventeen years Donovan was handling eight Nubian lines four Bengal tires in the cage once so now he's Tony The tiger trainer and according to his official biography he was great another weird childish fantasy following your nineteen forty seven he claims joined the circus after talking to young man in a pool hall who worked for the Clyde Buddy's circus where you really learn power magic even how to play God Anton was able to put his music skills to use in the circus well one night he asked he circus over their heads exposing her legs and underwear or lack of underwear and he said he literally set up seats in front of this and charged guys quarter also theater is the most ridiculous story he says it would just a spot where unsuspecting girls could walk across his Great Little Puff of wind would blow their skirts quote to sit down on on these seats and just enjoy the show is if there's a never ending stream of women walking by with easily you know Blown blow publ skirts no part of me believes that happens imagine that super loud some of these things to be played so loud you supposedly could hear them one to two miles away air an instrument truly befitting a minion of the devil I thought Father IOS musicals my least favorite music and I think it was but now may have new least every type music a circus clive emusic forgotten about it and maybe even worse this is the Kinda Shit he was opposed to play in Russia a Greek in Greece a Frenchman in Paris so interesting choice enroll model but very very satanic and as well as he'd come to define satanism later is and just do that alongside of them as if they wouldn't fuck and slap his face off I don't know maybe someone can do it I don't believe he's he said he begins sleeping in the cages with them the guy got sick and couldn't perform so Anton got to step in right take take that Allah peanut butter sandwiches a spider a frog league a beat one of his favorite characters was Hugo keeney the human cannonball a former Catholic turned militant atheist Zecchini would go on tirades about the corruption of circus collide he played refuse to let him try out so he used his occult mastery to curse him and the curse worked he cursed the collide player and the reserve hell Israel someone is playing right now have like little handy volumes this fucking blasting out your ear holes that music so that's what John said it was so good he immediately became the show's regular live player he cursed that other motherfucker right out of a job Levine said he met a number of engine characters during his time at the circus I don't doubt that a bit had him writing kind of writing his legend as a hero state in the south of France also supposedly had a black drapes satanic chapel hidden within its walls and they wanted to be this guy and these kind of Eddie performance shows with mystics fortuneteller gypsy palm meters hypnotists magicians learned as much as you couldn't find all of 'em time in the carnivals Anton also met Joe Calgary unreal he seems like the kind of dude who spent a lot of time to circus it said that in the spring of nineteen forty seven he signed on as Clyde Betty Circus roused about basically labor right a number of short fantasy stories for the popular magazine Weird Tales he struck up a friendship that lasted until many years later till after the Church of Satan was officially formed reaching out from his grave to exert his continued influence on the earthly plane then that's probably just bunch of Bullshit Sahara feel his followers having a hand in or people who is religion and he gets shot through the air out of a cannon an Anton had found his people I picture that guy going on rants about the corruption of religion as he's getting fucking launch out of account Canon I be player if he could try and figure out a plate collide is that insane circus instruments similar to an Oregon consist of a series of whistles sounded by steam or compressed written the stupefied delight of the crowd wild applause Anton got to see now how much people love being tricked how badly they wanted to believe in real magic he learns although the Bay wasn't sure he could even play the instrument he of course was immediately awesome at it if you can be awesome a little loose usage of the word awesome nineteen forty seven when the circus season ended avai claimed he he moved onto carnivals work in numerous jobs hued often play the clip he sorrows summarizes philosophy as I made wars that I can sell arms to both sides I sold ornaments to anyone who would buy them I was a Russian these trip closed God can you imagine Kinda Weird clown can strip club just music when she gets with don't put her in your mouth all right your diesel fuck me I shine a flashlight on them display them through a magnifying lens for the Swami to see them onstage now the turban show within miraculously recite exactly what the audience members trollope more magic tricks he becomes stereotypical Carney by this point flashy sports coat hand painted ties pencil thin mustache he had a lot of fun but his health did suffer tremendously for two years he lived on nothing but funnel cakes caramel apples elephants kettle corn fried pickles Cotton Candy Root Beer and cream soda he was a full blown diabetic morbidly obese and had to wear cutting occult teachings how did you make money while I think is parent support him to be honest he claims to have made some dough by saving perverts seats as the gathered around what was known as the blow her an animal tamer whose real name was Robert Barbour Johnson okay. CD Dude their chains Robert Barber to rubber that's fun nickname is awesome he read a number. This guy would run a lot about showmanship watching all this how important presentations lavar learning Learned everything he could when he was with the carnivals and circuses phonology Palmistry hypnosis doc another carney named Johnny star out on how to play Swami by sitting behind a table in a turban a pretty girl collects folded messages from audience members brings them onto a platform drops oh this is something he would talk a lot about the rest of his life he would brag about his romantic liaisons with Marilyn Monroe by the late forties now wants to while he's you know he just he came on with these motherfuckers he's got a huge dick he can kick anyone to ask would you do any trick lions and tigers into thinking he's aligning or tiger the eight he used some recommendations to get jobs at some strip clubs in Los Angeles and he said he performed clubs the Mayan and the Burbank Hills notorious culver city spot called Zukas the man who's starting down the path of magic billet reading which is describing while blindfolded what is written on paper concealed inside an envelope ner variety ways this none of which rely on real mission and I'm sure she was unable to resist his donkey Wayne and Chuck Norris like martial arts skills and fuck musicianship by what woman doesn't want awakening of lust object I must admit more than actual love object he said they moved into a cheap hotel on Washington Boulevard and had so much take your fingers won't pay because now you're too sick Henry Chris Dodd Satan not picturing putting stuff in a little cold rinse turn it around much sex he said we could make love and places where there was some chance of being discovered now could we would we would make love in places like in a cemetery the back seat of they've got it back to you get they also met circus performer rubber bubba Johnson an animal rubber bumper CIANCI they only in his late teens had already earned reputation as a flamboyant bay area personality and is reliable musician at burlesque theaters in one thousand nine hundred she was really the awakening of this fascination I have for the translucent skin quality I never had much interest in blondes in particular before I met Maryland the first time I saw Maryland on stage you know and there's no way that God ever intended this message has been delivered to the common man no you have to light the fuse I the message shouldn't need to deliver to priests I mean why outside of wanted to control the masses hit which included you know working some of the sex shows which they call the human anatomy in hell shows to keep the police she's so basically Strip club and he would play the collide Afri- online to this ever happening comes from Anton Biography Anton said when he was eighteen and Maryland was twenty two they had a little fling uh-huh we'll be wooed by the doubt even better he would say that it was Maryland's unusually white skin tone that attracted Anton tour in the first place he said Iraq and she just loved endlessly hearing him talk about a cultism you know the practices La was beginning to understand shortly after started messing around Anton became involved with the daughter of an influence Maryland stuff just make sure to bring up the stuff nineteen forty nine at the things didn't work out with Maryland even though you know because every other woman in La will also want him so bad even less sense he looks like a fucking career Kearney a weird pencils stash beady eyed carney and while he and Marilyn occasionally hop on the phone and turned around and had that Pale marshmallow flesh with little bruises on the backs of the thighs that erotic feeling went through me that I hadn't really thought since that a party a couple years earlier dentures due to tooth brought by the age of eighteen now getting all the health stuff is bullshit as is this next claim about the time levay supposedly spent with previous thirty to Maryland just so happened that young woman who went by the names Merlin how Noreen Mortenson and Mona Monroe had recently been cancelled by Columbia studios and start working duck maybe the only Los Angeles business now he's fucking around Marilyn Monroe because everybody wanted that sweet Carney Dong well he's not attractive guy by the way either the his dot one of his daughters later lifelike after he died still annoyed that she would like do press for the Church of Satan or beyond some show talking to the church and her database breakout is a huge star she was already that time banging movie studio top exects the Vice President of the William Morris Agency already wanted to marry her. There is no hon key play that music again the birthday Connie guy there's no record of him doing this also claims to become involved with a number of militant Israeli groups while he was there to help them run guns he's running guns to the Israeli aw abandoned building she liked the thrill get the fuck Outta here no way that happened I would bet my life that didn't happen and nine thousand nine hundred forty eight Maryland was just about just strictly forbid her to touch a ruler or a tape measure for poor woman she probably had no concept of length for for many years probably thought that the average Grocery Store Deli hot dog was three went after fourteen year old no one his age with half a brain would have believed all his silly bullshit about dating Marilyn Monroe being a judo bass running guns for these rallies and having a got you know they'd correspond for another decade or so they'd never see each other again says the Maryland story and he would keep beating that drum that the story happened like he was like I read an article clouded crystal bowl when the messages fall directly through the bowl they fall on a shoot to the eager hands of somebody like under the stage then you know anti would open up the paper Kaha Jesus I mean I mean Satan Gosh what the Gosh equivalent for Satan Sashi of Wells Fargo Bank executive he was twenty when he met Carol and she was fourteen I know it was a different time but gross and of course he uh-huh guys let's the lunatic and ever-deepening studied the black arts so ard he bursting out laughing at this nonsense he says is true he says they would drive around her l. way she was digging around with eighteen year old San Francisco Carney and collide with a player I just you know man and the future just for show you light the fuse and they were all the way down pushed about an excuse me anyway the church is business and sell celebration to ties and just and I just think that's and she currently runs the first eighteen church and San Francisco thought to have a teeny tiny membership then don't get your hopes about this place it's not open to the public you can't just walk in or should they get so big he stopped taking pe class because he's tired of the stairs young Carol had probably never seen a dick so he was able to convince her that he was like eighteen inches long or something you know and then he or something since Kerr was underage religious leaders tend to like them young don't they it was necessary for the couple to get her parents permission before they marry got you wonder how God can sit and watch over all the bloody carnage that he had to photograph which would make sense if he did take those photos which I don't think he did record of him ever working there he claims he won several awards for these photos and even sold Sunday magazines at this job would solidify his lack of belief in the main stage is candy around the stage candy get sticky floating across the backyard weird noises UFO mysterious raise all the all that kind of stuff as a self-described avid ghost hunter Anton said he loved this new job a typical hey the to me no according to Lavalin fascinating stories of life in the carnival this wasn't going to happen very easily because parents you know thought he was a weird creepy because he was so nineteen fifty one gets out of the Strip clubs and Berlin joins uses the education you may have gotten for the same reason they were sexually insatiable oh they wanted to do was make me give them multiple orgasms several times a day a man can only bang and a draft would be an act in nineteen fifty so an attempt to avoid being drafted spite not graduating high school he claims you've enrolled in San Francisco City College where he would study Criminology Mary did now twenty one year old levay this is what he claims to San Francisco Police Department hired him to do these photos like crime scene photos even though they have no the house he said he would usually discover the source of the unnatural moans and it would be very natural like Rusty Ken Wilson Wind or some half starved cat trapped in the attic studying criminology to get a job that skews photographer for the San Francisco Police Department so you get some more respectable job so carol's parents will now give their now fifteen year old permission or something I don't know how bill them while studying if he did in fact study there's no record of him again he kept working at burlesque houses and he met his future first wife Caroline daughter courage to ask for a raise they needed ninety dabble in all these kind of little side jobs eventually clients ask Amazon's advised to make simple charms cast spells makes anti knows that when he was described as simple cause of these problems people were disappointed but he was a showman like a snake oil salesman started spicing things up just telling people like I took care he went back to San Francisco make sense and he continued to work as a strip club musician by the end of forty nine the Korean War was looming Anton word he'd likely be drafted of water break out get rid of monsters and whatnot I guess people would pay good money to have their houses you know of cleaned of spirits would it be hypnotized also help them stop smoking lose weight mustard it did happen yeah real details nineteen fifty two caroline Anton have a daughter Carla Marie Soleil Carlo would go on to become a high priest in the Church of Satan in the eighties nine all would have Anton report to a house to find freaked out couple frightened by unnatural moans coming from like a locked attic or something and he'd go crawl to the cobwebs search and under the eaves he should be a frequent guest on TV shows Joan Rivers show twenty twenty sixty minutes that kind of stuff Speaking off into the cultural paranoia about the satanic panic of the eighties nineties Johnny so he quits the Police Department you probably have worked for nineteen fifty five and then to supplement his new income as an exorcist hypnotist and potion maker all's we did the people just curious yet you gotta pass some tests pay dues the year after the birth of Karla Anton said he was assigned the but a lot of money and ghost hunting and all that stuff at this time Anton returns to music playing the organ at a former speakeasy and house of ill repute called Moore's point back back strickland you know I took care of the entity started making believe that you know he did get rid of some spirit and within a few short years Anton developed a steady clientele of people who needed him to cleanse things all all of the repeater eight hundred calls they would come to various San Francisco police bureaus now that was the code number for what they call nut calls reports ghosts blowing shaves awesome where the that's where the money is about the time Anton moves his family to a flat near Sutro heights the Outer Richmond district of Western San Francisco overlooking playland at the beach and he also gets a leopard at this time one of his friends a writer named Julius Adams knowing he loved big cats somehow smuggles ten week old black leopard from Burma gives it to end if Chicago at San Francisco Civic Auditorium and then became San Francisco's officials city organist You know playing for cultural events conventions in games no that's I didn't happen late nineteen fifty nine in the early sixties not having to worry about a mortgage only having a weekend gig Anton has plenty of time to entertain growing group of friends who share his interest in the occult orderly was overjoyed and she she just had a feeling she knew that she needed to sell it to him it was his destiny to own it so we offer a bit more money than whoever it already bought it. She was panels that were allegedly used to rob brothel customers and they're being entertained secret passages web throughout the entire place it was possible to move throughout the house without being seen Very notorious Madam in San Francisco's barbary coast as when the neighborhood was local Red Light district for the second half of the nineteenth and twentieth century she tells him that many of the clauses in the House contained seriously this guy such a piece of shit when it came to be honest about the details of his life. I mean there's not remembering something correctly there's exaggerating the truth make yourself look a little bit so he goes over to the House the owner of the home happens to be there when Anton introduced himself as a historian he's given a a tour of the home she leads him through each of the thirteen rooms how she's how the home came complete with secret panels trapdoors in rooms the history of the home included an owner named Mary Ellen pleasant known as Mammy pleasant says Anton version he says on outing to see House to the exclusive sea cliff area a few blocks from the Golden Gate Bridge he was immediately intrigued by a weathered slate Gray Victoria and then they're just making up a completely different nonsensical story to fuel some mythology to have people view you in a way you want them to mammy pleasant never fucking worked also had various devices hidden through the house stimulated Erie effects during seances when Anton told the owner that he desired to practice occult magic in this house She uh-huh she revealed the house had been used at various times as a speakeasy he spiritualists parlor and house of ill repute supposedly haunted true in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine and on a house that became very infamous in San Francisco I'll tell you how he claims he got the house first and then I'll tell you the truth this so he moves into his house he paints a black and he starts building all the secret passageways so he could turn it into the state hand church after moving in according to his wife Carol he barely provided for the family making less than thirty bucks lived in this black house there was no secret patches before Anton built them later he moved into the house his parents gave him his parents house because he couldn't afford one zone because he's not it was actually real Anton claims the big cat part of the family we'll even crawl into the baby's crib to sleep with garlic that's a good choice for parents make Anton also says he takes can get real jobs fucking collide Carney player and playing strip clubs and talking about ghost and Shit Oh my God in home across the street while his real estate agent tried to talk him out of it says the house already had a sold sign on it you know it seemed like a lost cause but hit a feeling and a powerful feeling about this house and they would come over started meeting regularly the Black House you know hoping he's stupid fucking Jaguars didn't Klom talk about stuff like summoning demons making contact with the WHO knows where I spend a Lotta time listening Anton talk about how big Dick was or what sex let's Marilyn Monroe's like these friends would eventually become known as Anton magic circle all kinds of people were part of the magic circle members of the magical began wearing odd shaped black and red medallions adorned with the bat winged Demon Boffa met you know became buff Matt formed a group called the order of the trapezoid which later evolved into the governing body of the Church of Satan those who attended live as soirees came from wide variety professions and pursuits the week playing the organ at Strip clubs anti mostly on like the weekend Antao would say that in addition to play at the one club called the lost weekend he was also hired to play the largest pipe organ walk on a leash at night San Francisco terrifying people now let's get to a a another walker of ally this is important part of Anton mythology and it's not filmmaker Kenneth Anger Artists Attorneys Doctors Writers Young Liberace musician was supposed there law enforcement officers real estate moguls Ernest Karen do pleasant group and the Royal Palace of Denmark Magician Dr Cecil Sissel Nixon anthropologist Michael Horner writer Shana Alexander under to break that contract with the previous purchaser sold home that's history the infamous black house of San Francisco here's the truth it was his parents house. Ceo I prefer Dildo President or the Pecker joke in the industry through New Circle of friends and and and someone has to be the DILDO president what a weird job what do you do I'm the owner and CEO of climax triggering internal toys what what kind of toys exactly clinic premium genital stimulation devices what bills man we we make dildos and you're the dildos apparently one regular attendee was dildo manufacturer no name is given out that part is not ally he's described as Dildo manufacturer I mean it's the always got to do it likes of former suck suck subject the amazing inspiring a Harry Houdini be there or was once they're you know many years before Pianist composer well how to cure people you know with which portions and what kind of spider did you put in your cauldron how many legs of Newt do you need to protect yourself from a necker manser it's real job Dildos Omega themselves someone's gotTa someone's GonNa work on a Dildo assembly line someone's gotTa do be like a Dildo secretary into the dildo calls someone's GonNa work in Dildo shipping in his home but never learned to play and Dr Nixon admired Anton a great deal at least according to Anton You know the doctor Nixon shared magical secrets he learned over many stupid dressed like a character from Victorian novel complete with wingtip callers high button shoes gold Pinson his style of glasses perched on his nose he a lot about stage decades of life with Anton and only with Anton now is that true I doubt it I think it's more myth building she met this guy I doubt he got hidden secrets this is a little get togethers in the early sixties holding magical lectures some sort of you know different topic every Friday night at midnight opening these lectures to the public sort of charging people found out divorced me and then I made the new girl the new Quinta Suck I don't think that would sit too well with you meet sacks I hope it would not Anton began to form Colt Esoteric knowledge on topics vampirism Like like Hanthropy I also that we're creating a little bit I I have apprentice meet an important influence Dr Cicely Nixon mentioned him Nixon was an eccentric character dentist by trade he's in his eighties time Anton met him and he had similar interests in the coats everything now twenty nine year old Anton wanted a woman and on Diane Beginning Affair and the following year nineteen sixty Anton and Carol to get a divorce Anton kept us the Catholic Church you talked about sex theories revitalization techniques Glenn Transplants from Monkeys Goats Recipes Refugees Yaks esp she worked nights at a theater days doing office work for an insurance company she was perfect at two jobs she was waiting to the Colt she was gullible and her vagina hadn't turned eighteen machine to performance a function according to predetermined set of coded instructions we talked about that Davinci episodes did he made those the mechanical night and the mechanical line he made the King of France those were so he met Diane Hegarty at Moore's point another club you popped into play the piano she described as seventeen year old up she was beauty with long blond hair and enchanting green ice I'm him nineteen fifty-nine Busier Ran Donnie met his next wife Carol was ancient by Nineteen fifty nine she was twenty three gross and he was sick of her nasty old lady parts zombies haunted all kinds of shit and honestly it sounds like a good Friday night sounds like a Good Friday night midnight show right they'll get messed up at a bar you know maybe it'd joint take some shrooms and go to this magical spells as dark magic could could let you become a werewolf even though he never pulled that off it's weird you must not be able to dispel just quite right you know he couldn't nail down background music for dramatic resuscitation magic acts percent the proper mood for the night the instrument Levine was playing elaborate pipe organ the Nixon had built himself. I like Kanter people angry unless you're gonNA save uninhabited environment doing this could cause a violent reaction which will just make the situation worse you guys please only use like hanthropy around people you trust and fully understand what you were doing however it is best that you use it alone. This better facilitates uninhibited release I think doing it alone also increases the odds dramatically that no one will keep annoyingly telling you stuff like dude you're not a fucking wolf stop ground supernatural transformation of a person into Wolf on the Church of Satan Dot Org it's so great include actual instructions on how to turn into a wolf person I mean you're just high you look exactly the same zip you're walking on all fours like a Weirdo number three only use like hanthropy in a proper dollars and fifty cents now to get in and in no time the Front Chamber of the Black House was packed to capacity now people would listen to listen to Antanas magic circle his lectures included the the house where people are wearing robes and shit is all kinds of occult imagery all over the walls and listen delay talk about wearables or something and he was super into where wolves by the way parents house in the divorce Diane quickly took Carol spot as the hostess of the Magic Circle Ouch apparently members didn't seem to mind if I chewed on Lindsay and not kidding before the instruction is warning by my throat is a little bit trashing week and take a quick zip off Mike like a professional you gotta become a wolf please do not become an angry Wolf Besse last thing that you or anyone else need there are too many angles out there as it is number two environments such as your own property away from prying eyes this better facilitates the transformation and you know makes it easier for you to tell yourself to pull it off and will help keep police does the ingredients correctly was was one leg of newt or two and which leg was one of the front wants those counters nude arms how much how much spider is a pinch of spider we did wear will suck on August third two thousand eighteen and he at least claim to believe in man's ability to transform into a wolf he thought learning the right Colt Colt okay so here's the instructions I have turned into a person before the instructions is a warning I love it was like warning letters never it breaches or more properly satanic started developing rituals and prayers devoted to hailing the dark lord renouncing God according to the purpose of these prayers and canopy dominate your life obsession is a possibility so you must from time to time examine yourself from the standpoint of objective objective observer treat cancer wear your Wolf Skin just you know folks wolf just sitting there right behind you and then you want to focus on that wolf just kind of magically entering your body and then and the backwards resuscitation of prayers so it's less about the worship of an actual evil evil entity more about free in one's mind from the guilt and shame cannibalism and human sacrifices and it actually had these mother fuckers eating people like for real students at night were invited to partake of a cooked thi- of a young Caucasian woman offer thanks to the teachings of certain denominations of organized religion at other times he talked about stuff like cannibalism they one seminar one Friday that seminar on Agic enchantment love potions fortune telling although stuff pertinent to witchcraft. I'm sure these workshops had a lot less to do with actually learning how to perform spells that had been provided to the Black House by Berkeley visit by Berkeley physician who attended Anton lectures regularly and hopefully it was fired immediately bills were stifled and traumatized from the religion inspired psychic burdens satanic ceremonies employees the inverted cross black candles instead of white desecration of the host what part of the abdomen the head the legs are we supposed to use black widows or Roanoke Rick Loses there's a page dedicated to cancer be I did have it right yes mind reading ventriloquist them loved it been truly cuisine he also was a talented altamont inventor an autobahn and Autobahn Sweeter and not quite as tender salt Islam called it long pig and I don't doubt he actually did that. Anton also developed which is workshops concentrated more on the skills of applied ages and vampires giving his lecture lectures on zombies and where will just to get attention you know trying to figure out you know what would draw the biggest crowd give people talk in the most Dan because born is fuck summarize basically you're supposed to do it during full moon and you're supposed to wear wolf costume ideally get some more and he put it on she says he actually didn't do anything particularly satanic until publicist wrote a story about him being the first priest of Satan and then people started really talking about that you know it's like the lightbulb went on more people's now known as just xena xena would grow to become the Church of Satan spokesperson the eighties then in nineteen ninety she would leave the church Renown Satanism Start Hating her dad over lately the became a Buddhist she now lives in Berlin Germany two thousand twelve she helped found the Sathian Liberation Movement a religious body that allows people to learn and practice magic without agnostic Paderewski Polish name look actress Gertrude Lawrence at once gathered with his Guy Lavar would she would later say that her father on the time of her birth was experimented with various gimmicks at the Black House he would just be an intentionally weird hosting burlesque shows with women dresses a columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle wrote of Antanas a psychic investigator spending nights investigating haunted houses and cemeteries now holding strange rituals in his medicine Black House if anybody found out he had taken a leg and cooked it up at this party the meat if you're curious was described as tasting somewhere between pork lamb with the consistency rather fiber is like pork chops answering to depressive sect and helps free ex members from their troubled past so if you want to be too cold anymore but you want to keep doing spells look her up some totally legit I'm sure it works more with Anton papers on some more young ladies 1963 Anton Diane would have their first and only child Zena Guillotine Levay bay-area curiosity starts getting peaked who is his pencil stash beady eyed master of the dark arts nineteen sixty four another friend of Anton Associates purchased on with nothing else just you and your Wolfer and relaxing meditate and just focus super hard I'm being wolf right actually what you're supposed folks I you want to be right behind you you're sitting there over the grocery store okay scare other shoppers you don't have the hands you would need to pay for the end so and don't be all over the gym either had a lot of complaints Kooky stuff dressed up like somebody in the addams family but I'm GonNa have myself let's go back to nineteen sixty four and sixty four Anton antics started gained Publicity Monique Wanwa Society Preston a hamstring curls little impossible when you got little wolf legs the instructions on how to transform into a Wolfer long and tedious and Superdome so I'm not gonna I still peanut butter sandwiches now you're wolf they wolf right you just fucking focused your way into Wolfram sometimes Friday night speech is about like other also nineteen sixty four young Carl now twelve chooses to stay with her dad Anton said of her mother I'm guessing things are a little more Loosey Goosey Devil Dad's house guest you don't have a hard with all the cold starting to spring up and California Sixties Anton was inspired to start his own religion she said you know her mom diane was mortified when he did this she she just like you know talking about super cool you know when he's talking about wearables zombies and Satan stuff if he's wearing a pentagram necklace and sitting between two big cats names one to gary the garden Zoltan ways it's about wild animals roaming the neighborhood down to a dull roar I swear to God i just read that verbatim and they're not joking number four do not let automations of them saying that right Anton loved the interesting eccentric I do too actually and he was soon included in doctrine Nixon Saturday night Suarez with for me this new religion always been sort of satanic underground going back before recorded human history if you classify you know being satanic anyone worshipping the Deity that represent it's Anton big big cat experiment wouldn't last long it's now legal have a lion or leopard for pet most places and the path to donate than most of the San Francisco Zoo here's something special and don't Overdo it Jesus don't overdo guys is because the super easy to turn into wolf nerve you want not safe you know high priestess in his church everyone in Mansfield camp would say this is a bunch of bullshit they said that Mansfield was seen with a few times and it was a calculated Publiz a short black house then he got heavy into satanism she compares her dad's founding of the Church of Satan to l Ron Hubbard's founding scientology you've just a money grab Gene Mansfield did meet Levin in nineteen sixty six while attending the San Francisco Film Festival unclear whether Mansfield previous contact with them instead of the meeting or she just wandered into the formalized satanic worship until the mid sixties not really not until Anton did it nineteen sixty six according to Anton he he had a fling with another sex symbol actress Jane people start whispering that is because she was fucking around sadness Anton himself perpetuated a rumor about cursing her boyfriend to get him out of the picture because he also died in the crash associated with craft well find out why it has to do with old rituals for protecting livestock back when animals were traditionally moved to summer pastures bonfires were but again get ahead of myself not ready for nineteen sixty seven still have more nine hundred sixty six talk about Anton shows the German Christian holiday of Vargas Night Nineteen did they were shape shifting witches bent on some chows dry and stealing butter of something people were actually fucking worried about Scotland pieces of Rohan tree replaced about the doors of has you know Pagan Associations this holiday celebrates the life of Saint L. Perga- in Eighth Century British missionary who brought Christianity to much of Germany and then and then it became city stunts she was a sex symbol in the fifties her star was fading she needed to be noticed by the growing counterculture movement she wanted to edge up her image a little bit and she knew if you showed up at the Black House and but it just became a thing in German folklore val purgas night became associated with a tradition that witches would gather from across the land for a great Sabbath instead of the darker side of life and people here and there never that many have worship day to Christian or Jewish devils since early in the history of those religions but no one her few the black house but I wasn't too strict when it came to drinking or weed or listen to whatever she wanted to listen to as Blissett swelled mortuaries people began to show up Anton lit by communities across Europe to scare away predators and that was spooky all these fires at night and Sixteenth Century Ireland hairs were killed on May Day in the belief more intimidating than the names in my little doodles pooper G G battle if I sat on an altar with penny pooper on one side and g g bell and the other I would not be taken seriously as a master of the Doctor Black House uninvited regardless mansfield in the bay did spend some time together during the final year of her young life when she was thirty three years old before she died in a brutal car accident nineteen interesting is that there's no evidence there's there's ever been any type of pagan or which like or satanic activity activity more socio at that time of year than any other time of year the top of Blacksburg now Brockton a summit in the Harz mountains of central Germany this great witches meeting may have been you know much depicted in nineteen the ten week old Nubian Lion for him his second big cat no yet another I already said that we are another friend of Anton one of his associates purchased second he fifty seven according to elevate before her death man still would go on dates do photo shoots you know have all kinds of sex the even publicly announced that he had made Mansfield twentieth-century art literature but if you look closely at which trial records there's not much evidence for being true probably never happened from the hundreds of confessions beat out of likely innocent people by self righteous around and having sex these villagers devils and demons big devil wings and horns and shit all around them that essentially and a half later German philosopher and poet Johann Wolfgang von Goethe quizzes confessions brought up by torture confessions just given to make the torture stop till the torture what you think they wanna hear it's clear that pagan rituals deemed Pagan Satanic Book includes an illustration of orgasm or I'm sorry orgy type celebrations taking place in this mountaintop there's old pictures of people you know original kind of outfit on like she's going to be his sacrifice and she was writing it worked it got people talking about her got her some good publicity and then when she died in a car in the next year drew upon this old bracken or Old Brock and book for his famous play Faust Publishing Eight in which he depicts the legendary sixteenth century magician dat sure it's funny to scare people like spin class or sounds and watch them kind of peddle faster at the bikes ghost are moving but don't do hard to work out you know wolves are strong but not good albers to keep witches way an era of which trials the Danish Law Code of fifteen twenty one observed that witches were active at times such as Turkish night scared religious people like Oh my God watch over the witches on that night and it became a thing when it was never originally an actual thing that's a fascinates me professional publicist Edward Well that's a pagan that's that's a Satana collie actually no actually it was just a fucking rumor started six hundred years ago in the telephone game got it whipped up and going and then you know apple of indulgence instead of the temples of absence they've been built up until then we didn't want it to be an unforgiving unwelcoming place but a place where you could go to have fun flashed front page headlines About Satan Church around the world helped Anton so lot of copies the Satanic Bible a little bit later the first of these was the marriage of two of Amazon's members Ram Stoker continue this association principle Purgas night and Satan Demons and Blah Blah Blah and brock and continues to be referenced improper Popular Culture Happen at any time of year not vault purgas night in particular and probably didn't happen much at all these people were just saying what the inquisitors wanted them to say then in sixteen so again it's not really a religion it's just more of an anti religion within a year and a half of its creation the organization would be the center of three separate media sensations their wedding ceremony blessing their marriage in Satan's name and Christians worldwide freaked the faulk out if we start allowing marriages to be blessed Satan's uh-huh so for that I want always may stresses me out which is which wearables you know we talked about methods of torture various devices for pain the methods of self Malaysia and despite Purdis night to see that we should quit this company will goes fast provided inspiration for subsequent artists like writers proclaimed he was the one who told Anton to turn Friday night gatherings into religion he says he suggested to Anton that he would never make any election on Friday nights for donations it'd be better to me the Los Angeles Times voted four columns at the front page of the event or most of the other papers stories lingered on the naked lady alter the used in the ceremony I got him some press two stink so do the witches foss later references while it seems for soothe a little strange when we the bracken came to range sorry I nine hundred sixty seven John Raymond a politically radical journalist Judith case a New York socialite daughter of a prominent attorney they asked Anton performance sixty eight volt progress which established firmly located at brock in a weighty tomb about the history and geography of the mountain and the region called the blocks Berg performance he sticks holly the stretches from the well the evening of April thirtieth throughout the evening of May first to officially found his new church and he chose us because few pigs with the veil fucking state endow we're cost him you can find these pictures you got this little devil horns loo- it looks silly to be totally honest he's holding skulls and stuff and she has this white orders and photographers at the events more than any event since the opening of the Golden Gate Bridge and the Blackhawks was packed with reporters witnessing the supreme yeah he's right and did kickoff religion around the time say we established the Church of Satan something that would smash all concepts of what a church was supposed to be this was the came up with more rituals that parody Christianity started doing stuff like producing strip shows like a topless witches review in San Francisco one of the girls he hired cover stories and interviews with Anton Levay the dock prints of satanism they loved it he pushed the envelope more and more blaspheme mortar round up you know people more get more attention has he started doing that as well it'd be better to form some sort of church and get a charter from the state of California I told Anton at the time that the press was gonNA flip out over this and we would all get a lot of notoriety seriously nineteen sixty social conservatives were disgusted at the idea of a nude woman alter got a lot of people talking about the status he was titties a woman's naked body that will rile up social conservatives almost as much as the hard dick naked naked body a naked woman on it's good friend there's no am smuggling Leopard kitten fucking anywhere to give to anyone cat was named Zoltan and playfully terrorize guests at the Levine House for years this in metastatic lease traveling to the summit of the Bracken accompanied by witches and demons the witch's strike up this famous chorus or you know literally nerds which is bound often in lesbian sex just because of the trip logistics of rubbing one could've against Clinton away that would feel good and be rhythmic and it would take a lot of work he probably cramp up and it'd be awkward position they might like it they might want to touch one of those pussy someday they might want to suck on those CD's who put their adult penis and there's a pussies between those are though titties my land to to perform these shows was actually Susan Atkins Future member of the Manson family couple years later Atkins would commit the murders and Sharon Tate's Benedict Canyon home what if they wanted to someday rub their own pussy up against the other pussy some kind of sexual sizzling fantasy that I'm ninety nine percents sure dude made up because I doubt that happens today by heavy metal band black metal band horror films and it was referenced in Nineteen Sixty six by Anton Lavina just find this a fascinating where you know there's there's there's these holidays out there about ooh the anti Christ will be heard any seconds Hama Hack Dang the world's GonNa be flooded with Damon's gets them a lot of press on the day the ceremony newspapers from California to Europe had more reports with a woman dead he's out in full view what if a child saw those filthy deputies even worst what if a child saw one of Satan's pussy hole so my flip the title the black pope in media from around the world you know they'd started falling all over and get an interview men's magazines printing picks up these nude altar girls mainstream magazines an end up the broken are we the stubble is yellow with the new grain is green all number will gather them and you know who would take the chair so we race on over hedges and ditches the he thingy Boeing moved into hoes moldy against another whole to tug a boat captains fighting it out on the high seas who've remember Atkins is just another haight street burn out perhaps a bit more drug befuddled in some Susan with Diana California prison doesn't nine at the age of sixty one alleged licking the blood off her fingers after the deed we talked about that way back and suck eighteen atkins would later say that Levine was the start of her mental downfall anti would later robes standing along naval honor guards to end the funeral the navy fired three volleys with their rifles and navy musician played taps after the mourners shouted hails wearing Botham at medallions a picture taken this funeral holy shit is worth a glance so surreal like a screen shot for some old movie just dudes and Satanic aim of Satan Lucifer welcome new mistress Zena creature of aesthetic magic light welcome to our company the path of darkness welcomes the and so in the name of Satan we set your feet upon the left hand path Zena we baptize you with Earth Air with Brian and burning flame and so we dedicate your life to love to passion to indulgence and to Satan and the way of Darkness Hail Zeena Hail Satan you're not afraid above you Satan Heaves Balk into the startled sky and makes a canopy of great black wings small sorceress most natural and true magician legally kind of have to agree with this request there was a chrome helmeted honor guard in attendance at the ceremony standing rigidly at attention alongside the black robe which is in warlocks well Christian Organiz organizations obviously appalled but there's nothing they can do about it be a wee bit hypocritical of them if they try to step on you know you know freedom of religious expression child original sin as in Christian baptism imposing unwarranted gilts we will glorify or natural instincts and intensify lust for life right this gives people fucking freaked out a he'll Satan I dunno I love the message. December of nineteen sixty seven the third of Anton great satanic publicity stunts occurs after Anton was approached by activated reporters horrified the public with an image of this little girl in this row with his pentagram necklace being dedicated to the devil may twenty third nineteen sixty Oh shit satanic funeral load the Greg Aim News Grega fire the Craig Hail Satan seven her mother dressed also in a bright bright red hooded robe she sat on the edge of the altar while photographers from New York to Rome or snapping pictures an anti Ian Edward Olsen become members of the Church of Satan and she said of her husband he believed in the Church and it is in this church that he would have wanted his funeral the navy not stoked about it Hayden I can only imagine how accountable some of those soldiers were how would that he's funeral herald better without the Hill Satan's now mine nine hundred sixty nine Anton financially capitalizes on his new notoriety by releasing the Satanic Bible there were rumors Nineteen sixty-nine that membership in the church maybe Roman Polanski's film about the child of Satan was about to be released on June twelfth nineteen sixty eight publicist took advantage of the high priest high visibility bypass out funny to me that if you take out the nods of Satan if you got some of the language the underlying message there is actually pretty good it's basically just Carpe Diem enjoy your time on earth you know tiny hands have the power to pull heaven down from its build monuments to your own sweet indulgence your power makes you master of the world of frightened cowering and guilt ridden men experience pleasure experienced joy don't just exist live get the most you can out of your rotation's around the Sun Hail Nimrod Hey lose the fina his Edward Olsen Mrs Olsen the high priest performer funeral for her recently deceased husband naval officer named Edward who was killed in a traffic accident near San Francisco's treasure island station black buttons that read pray for Anton Levay they said that Rosemary's baby did for the Church of Satan with the birth of a nation did for the Ku Klux Klan complete with on recites in education that he would later adapt in his book this attack rituals they went like this and this is this would be pretty freaky if you were religious and saw this he said in the had grown to well over ten thousand and on himself Clinton Church had hundreds of thousands of members not true according insiders membership in the Church of Saint like actual membership without the protection of the Pentagram invoking the names of Jesus I couldn't find anything like what I had mine so I wrote one this religion of Satanism Anton wrote about again really anti now who better to be baptized in such a public ceremony than live as own three-year-old daughter Zina with a soft blonde hair she's such a cute kid soft blond hair engaging smile she us satanism is world affirming not worlds denying however the encouragement of indulgence does not equate to mindless immersion into pleasures. Sometimes restraint leads to heightened enjoyment later in which case patience and discipline are encouraged. Finally indulgence requires one to always be controlled if satisfying czar becomes a compulsion we begin with the universe and say it's in different there's No God there's no devil no one cares so you didn't have to make a decision that places yourself the center of your own subjective universe because of course we can't have any assessor failure you can't be praying to God or blaming the devil or anyone else for that matter for what happens to you it's on your own head yet regarding what he wrote in the book and said I never set out to be a writer I wrote the Satanic Bible out of disgust I'd look for years for no bullshit how to book on Black Magic Putting posters in the lobby touch to reference okay I find Rosemary's baby help boost the tannock enrollment like the birth of Asian boosted clan enrollment his comparison notable about making your own decisions about what to value what's positive to you is good what harms you is evil you extended to things that you cherish and the reality in existence or sacred and the truth of that existence is to be honored in south at all times never sacrificed for a comforting lie or unverified claim one can not bother to investigate kind of object contact with anything that exists so by making yourself the primary value in your life you are your own God by being your own God you are unkindness there was nothing productive in that but it is also unproductive to waste your energy on people who will not appreciate or reciprocate your kindness treat others has never exceeded three hundred people this by not having impressive membership numbers attending Bible is sold well enough to have never gone to print the paperback version has over a thousand ratings. I didn't mind the naked older girls Muslims so much but the hail say really kind of chat my ass really kind of made me uncomfortable live as dark star continued to rise in nineteen sixty eight in Rosemary's baby of a church the Church of Satan a couple of variations elaborated on satanism atheist roots in two thousand Seventeen satanism begins with atheism the third of these statements represents undefined wisdom instead of hypocritical self to seat true knowledge takes work and strength it is something one fines rather than as they treat you will form meaningful and productive bonds but let parasites know that you will not waste your time with them Holy Shit I love that one a ton very Villalba Satan again taking responsibility for your own actions success or failure depends mostly on us to stop blaming other people that sounds like some might say okay now let's look at the main often handed to you doubt everything and avoid Dogma truth describes how the world truly is how we would like it to be be wary of shallow emotional wants all too I started feeling state and gives me the six statement is at Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for Psychic Vampires Satan advocates extending responsibility to the responsible rather than acquiescing to psychic vampires true leaders are identified by their actions and accomplishments not their titles real power often they are satisfied only at the expense of truth who should he just described the core ethos of time suck is not Satan Satan Awesome fucks happening religion with some kind of witchcraft thrown in the book doesn't talk much about God's or saving more about people worshipping themselves the current high priest of the Church Peter Gilmour current high priest elevating the human species to a position somehow innately superior to other animals is blatant self-deceit humanity is driven by the same natural urges that other animals that you cherish so it's actually very easy to see that it's a self centered philosophy but it also requires responsibility since you're taking on for yourself to complete onus for your personal the four statement is Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates there's nothing in satanism that encourages wanton cruelty on Amazon and we're going to look at those ratings today's issues of the Internet knocked into that segment quite yet I let's see what Anton said about his most infamous book let's go over some what's inside of absence nothing is to gain by denying oneself pleasure religious calls for abstinence most often come from faiths that view the physical world and his pleasures as spiritually agents the Church of Satan let's begin with nine ten statements coming from the opening chapters of the Satanic Bible Number One the first agent is that Satan represents indulgence instead somebody because dogma dictates because someone has judged it bad in addition when a satanist realizes that he or she has committed an actual wrong correct responses to accept it learn from it has been the best friend the church has ever had as he has kept it in business all these years this last statement is largely a declaration against dogmatic and fear based religion Wentz while our intellect has allowed us to accomplish truly great things which should be appreciated it can also be credited with incredible and wanton acts of cruelty throughout history instead of turning the other cheech cheech cheek leaving wrongs unpunished merely encourages miscreants to continue prey on others those who do not stand up for themselves end up being ruler option out of Range Rover that being said I do prefer humans to any other species doodles being very close second the second to last David there were no temptations if we did not have the neighbors that we do if there was nothing to fear than few people would submit themselves to the rules in abuses that are developed in other religions specifically Christianity over the centuries now you know what that's inflammatory but maybe my favorite one if you wanna believe in God do because you love God not because you're afraid of the devil also worship a loving forgiving God not an angry God willing to set your soul on fire forever because you don't worship him specifically as my I pulled this is not however an encouragement for misbehavior becoming a bully in the name of vengeance vengeance is not only dishonest but it also invites others to bring retribution on you the same goes for performing illegal actions of retribution break the law and you yourself become the miscreants that the law should come down on swiftly and harshly fucking love it righteous vengeance the Satan is to eight says that Satan represents all of the so-called sins and they all lead to physical mental or mental gratification Satan champions our so called sins in shut up already tireless you aren't I didn't ask for you advice the third rule is winning another layer show him respect or else do not go there if you're gonNA get the fuck out of my layer fourth rule says that if a guest in your layer annoys you treat him cruelly without mercy Good this one is tell me come from today the king of Bullshit telling me to watch out for bullshitters Bull Sherry I mean I agree but you know maybe should have followed your own statement look closer Anton then control has been surrendered to the object of desire and this has never encouraged okay so so what I just got out of that it's okay to do a little bit of blow from time to time I mean don't don't fuck with me motherfucker to kill you so those are big Tony's basically rules there's also the nine Satanic Sins Anton wrote to give us more complete understand okay I mean obviously out for a long time that humans while we can be so beautiful so inspiring so godly even also overall the worst thing by never happen to Earth I mean bears lions are constantly thinking of new ways to kill each other dear aren't dumping toxins into rivers and streams and killing fish poisoning water so they can make some extra money to buy an infinity all right don't be Arabi creep rule six do not take that which is not belong to you unless it is a burden and the other person cries out to be relieved so don't steal unless nights it's too bad that stupidity isn't painful ignorance is one thing but our society thrives increasingly stupidity it depends on people going along and responsibilities should be given to those who can wield it not to those who simply demand it still you know pretty solid pragmatic advice the seven statement says that Satan since man is just another animal sometimes better more often worse than those who walk on all fours who because of his divine spiritual the intellectual development has become the most vicious animal of all no you're more mortgage payment away new little bit okay I'm listening devil second statements that Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipedreams now make sure he's still sounds a colty the eighth rule is do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself I can't do that one if I if I follow that rule avoid doing it again not to mentally beat yourself up for it or beg for forgiveness not oppose the final of the nine satanic statements is a statement you know some people might not interpret is nice I think it's Nice says when walking and open territory bother no one if someone bothers you ask them to stop if he does not stop destroy him the concept of Saint is something that breaks a moral or religious law and Satanism is strictly against following such dogma when a satanist avoids action it is because of concrete reasoning not double headed right love those damage you for parasites and assholes fuck off hailed him route the Fifth Satanic Statement is that Satan represents afford to be stupid they men the second major centres pretentiousness Anton describes a sandwich says empty posturing can be most irritating and and isn't applying the cardinal rules of lesser magic on equal footing was deputy for what keeps the money in circulation these days everyone's made to feel like a big shot whether they can come up with the good human animals unless you're attacked for your food fair all right don't hurt animals mustard attack new or are tasty final rule also nice says it not gonNA fucking career anymore it's a stand up comic now gotTa Complain Sorry Anton Rule Number nine do not harm little children big fan of that one which followed it tenth rule do not kill so those are the nine founding satanic statements but of course that's not all there's also satanic rules of earth much shorter the first rule is do not give opinions or advice unless your ass you know they bugging they want you to take rule seven Satanism uh states that acknowledged the power of your magic if you have employed successfully to obtain your desires if schism solipsism can be very dangerous for sadness protect projecting your reactions responses in sensibilities onto someone who is probably far less attuned than you are with whatever they are told the media promotes a cultivated stupidity as a posture that is not only acceptable but laudable satanists must learn to see through the tricks and cannot all that can be known to exist Levy says solipsism God damnit the extra s that I hate saw it it works for most of us requires constant vigilance let you slip into a comfortable illusion of everyone being like you as has been said certain utopias would be ideal a nation of philosophers but unfortunately we're far from that right now it's all like this one and I work on this one I get mad mostly when I think someone is not acting like they're supposed to but I'm defining that for what I think is very subjective the power of magic after you've called upon it with success you lose all you have obtained so let's dig a little break from the DC adviser just to kind of which it up a little bit ignore Redbird redbird excuse me something Jack London wrote this book and it was a piercing darwinistic critique of Christianity rejected conventional notions of human rights. Now I can't expect someone else to act like I think they're supposed to act if they were raised very differently than I was you know you get the force in itself to seat also is the mistake of expecting people to give you the same consideration courtesy and respect national give them they won't instead sadness must strive to apply the dictum of do unto others as they do unto you you don't you don't like me calling you NASA within fuck and get on earlier get out of the layer geir the fifth role the fifth rules good one do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal plagiarize the majority of the Bible from this obscure 1896 book called might is right written by someone under the pseudonym of status by my books you'll learn the inside secrets of how to be better than everyone else number seven forgetfulness of past orthodoxies the rights be aware that this is one of the keys to brainwash informed persons wishes if it ultimately benefits you but only fools fall along with the heard leading an impersonal entity dictate to you all right now either this is one of the nine Satanic Statements Anton decided to include it again number five satanic sins conformity Anton says that's obvious from the satanic stance it's all right it's all right not too evil saint like grumpy Grandpa next rule is do not tell your troubles to others as you are sure they want to hear them again kind of grumpy GRANDPA advice can be by your very existence we are making history right now every day that is an important key to both lesser and greater magic so this one's just come as more of like a the factor aesthetics email and this is just a bunch of weird dribble about like magic again and kind of like a little message of don't be a Slob you know don't don't wear your pyjamas out to dinner come your hair brush your teeth another third of the Satanic Bible consist of Giannis Nokia keys taken directly but again without attribution from Algebra Crowley's equinox and then the nine satanic advocated a type of psychological hedonism was best for you fuck everyone else on the subtitle of this book is survival of the fittest and very similar to the Satanic Bible own actions their own evolution and make adjustments for their own progress the population will be cut in half in one generation instead we've devised laws and lawsuits to protect people from themselves us if these feeble modern bread creatures had to live by their wits and take care of themselves they'd be too scared to go out of their houses they'd be dead they wouldn't be able to move went again just like more common sense stuff but somebody's like the way it's worded the first is to pity stupidity is the first and cardinals of Satan isn't it statements actually could be taken directly from an rans atlas shrugged forgot his rule of crediting the original their number eights of the Sans is counterproductive pride six sin of Satanism is a lack of perspective and undescribed something you can can lead to a lot of pain for satanist he says he must never lose sight of who you are and what a threat award choose Easy Road Lazy Road Tuesday identifies victim even though that they're on their own primary victimize her now why why should we kind of support these people which is what he goes gene of a levion sadism all these sins written down around nine hundred eighty seven or written down until nine hundred seven they were taught in the early days I or Anton likely plagiarized a lot of these satanic thoughts from the philosophic teachings of other people previous to him none of whom were Satan as many claim that gladly brain damage mental illness cognitive disabilities then there are other people who choose not to try not to put forth their best effort choose not to adapt evolve sacrifice present happiness for future yeah I'm sorry and say you're sorry like they went to final number nine lack of aesthetics he writes the this is the physical application of the balanced asking people into accepting something new and different when reality something that was once widely accepted but is now presented a new package kind of ironic did he put this one in here considering that Internet Internet so here are some Amazon seventy three percent of the raiders give five stars User Kellyn Watkins not one of those five star raiders he gave the Book one-star This past August twenty fourth with talk about more in a lengthy scripture that rule now basically like why why do we the rest of that are working hard and trying to evolve why do we have to you know act like Satan is superior because you know you know magic you know you know more magic than the average person even though they never actually demonstrated doing anything magical could you every other religion as one the teaching you to not worship Christ in a sense that would kind of make it satanic right I guess maybe on a philosophic mm-hmm is the third major sin solid salafism or how Jesus solipsism very tricky word for me it's the viewer theory that the self is title of really disappointed right or this book at curiosity the views of Satan worshippers for funsies disappointed that the church Satan doesn't even worship Satan the as a valid you know theological belief system which of course if your question is is very satanic but really no more satanic than any other religion if you think about it in a way I mean if you're Christian kids are not yeah don't fake until you make it and when you do make it don't act like you're the shit I read this in is like you know just be fogleman slips is reviews of the mass market paperback edition of Antonova Satanic Bible hasn't thirty-one ratings at the time of me put together overall four and a half out of five star rating asking for think fast enough and they'd be eliminated Holy Shit am I the devil I dunno right Kinda resonates as me of course there are exceptions you know there's something attached again tiniest little bend not used teeny tiny little bent it's a paperback book you fucking idiot have some respect for yourself the rest of us have to look at you and Levay stood behind all these statements until his death he would actually double down on the ninth when he said if people simply had to face up to the and rip it and then for review he wrote book was torn at the lower right hand side looks like it was done on purpose by the looks of it attached his a picture right to their own demise and you know what if you took the energy you spent helping them and instead spending on helping people actually help themselves you know Gosh Dang bills Bub are we are we buds oh my heck someone working there might have ripped it you jackass said a fucking email like a grownup to customer service like someone who understands life what you did was I give it to me damage book then you wrote Great Book bought it as a gift for a friend however the COP received appear to be used the paper cover in the back were bent damaged another picture of the tiniest little tear dude what are you talking about you really think some Amazon employee sees book and then he's only wants to read about Satan Doug End bomb left another one star review titled Wind Do I get the Satan and then wrote Satan didn't come out of the book waste of money but funded leave out to scare the moments he says the first word is important pride is great up to the point you begin to throw out the baby with the bathwater the rule of Satanism as if it works for you great when it stops working for you when you paint yourself into a corner and the only way out constantly try and help lift up people who don't fucking care who don't try now why waste energy on those who choose to rot when let them rot is that now what they deserve are they not the contempt he felt for anyone who swallowed rehashed atheistic a cultism just oozes through this pretentious book all right thank you Bob over your bad review because you didn't like how much butter the kid work in the fucking concession stamp on your popcorn and anonymous Amazon customer one starter for the same reason title Sunni Muslims aiden user woke quagmire gave another one star review with the title be wary whoever packs your book might be offended it was a carney never aligned tamer but he picked up enough to handle one for a while and the Karni attitude shows through just about every word he spoke and wrote he also the result with more than a little bit of Nici and the Marquette Assad in the mix as well giving this book and Modern Satanism much attention gives them far more power than they deserved Tony this is one of the most well written one I've ever read he titles waste not your money or time and then writes an Ranaldo Crowley had a love child and this screed would email saying it was on its way after his side of my car for several weeks the thought that this attack Bible may have ordered itself made the experience a thousand percent better smile another anonymous Amazon customer gave the Book Five Stars writing the title of ordered itself and then they wrote off enough I don't remember ordering this item I woke up asked about his being a crime scene photographer so the story of his Cannibal dinner dining upon poor auto accidents di was almost certainly just a pork roast supper he inflated the story of Jane I did love how fast it showed up only give it two stars least Weirdo Sabre Bob gives a very good one star review I'm not against one star reviews if they're done with thought the book was before you ordered it maybe don't one-star selling just because you don't bother to look into what actually fucking is I just love that he wrote disappointed that the alive it not really an ideology funny to me like dude I give being bombed but that's not the authors fault that's your fault you could look at Pedia and two minutes got don imus customer gave it wants to review titled Disappointed Really I didn't know what I expected review is disappointed really I didn't expect and then I read a lot on different religion practices but it's dumb knock ally this dumb book arrived fast though exclamation points poor cracks me up arrive faster I hated it isn't for more than four decades the second major offense of the public came on Anton decided it was time to perform the world's first public satanic baptism rather than cleanse theological level is hit actually offers a lot of good advice mixed in with a lot of weird kind of ritually stuff at least that's how I see it let's see how some other people see it on today's idiots and I love how you call it grates but then give it one star email or call customer service how do people not know that someone extremely offensive username someone I hope I never meet or communicate with any way whatsoever he is the book to stars with the title of Yeah Okay Whatever and then he writes let me first start out and Hebrew and French you fucking dummy never seen anybody do that this isn't the language I know I guess just made up then by saying for the record that I am a satanist I became interested in Satanism for the Satanic Bible and the time I read it the book really impressed me however the reason I give it to uh-huh l. but if you're leaving out to scare people and you enjoy that can't at least give it two stars on a lot of harsh reviews here hansel death via curse she was partially scout but not decapitated her death was from impacts neck break as a carney the vacant play the role of black pope to the hilt but I'm scared of what you review of times it would be but you wanna see you know you you seem like you put a lot of thought of that I like how you justified you're one star well done now for silly when the just I is it has to book is common sense everyone should know already the other half is just made up languages disguised as powerful rituals made up languages like Latin Yeah Satan is picked out for them they just put in scar what else do you put in your cart it's got to be more self interest book okay one more Cayden Fox is a satanist and like the way you think sometimes so that's the gist of the Bible very little to do with the Christian notion the devil in the Christian the only thing released he tannock about it is that it rejects Christianity this'll teach him and then just make the teeny tiniest little tear in the corner art about teach them talk about staying and also why are you one star in the book it's not the books fault how dare you to start a book that got you into the religion that apparently like this this book completely changed my life to five stars it was in the three star Guy Great Book wouldn't change a thing three to five stars that's not for just a little idiots of the Internet four fifty who can believe in another interview this time for flying vows that he will enhance the growth of new more intelligent generations if he has a chance by selective breeding a man was masculine muscular inverted triangle type of a figure never be sexually submissive across the board or attracted to smell of women's Menstrual College of Seduction and manipulation about secrets women can use to manipulate and control men and in my opinion is trash straight up money grab Anton Anton divide the people up along a clock by things like personality type in physical appearance making weird claims such as to center people would never desire each other in quantity one cherish child create I guess you know maybe what one chairs child a one cherish child who can create will be more important than ten who can produce in in in August Sixteenth Nineteen seventy-one Newsweek article titled Evil Anyone a picture of his daughter Zina captioned building a better race and they quote Anton that's actually his advice in this book that last thing was true the best selling perfume in the world would smell exactly like period blood which is not the case thank God all of the Church being the creation of a police state it's the weaker weeded out and the achieving orientated leadership is permitted to pursue the mysteries of black magic okay going a little too regard right and we don't hurt kids rights or animals need to see rex okay exactly that's what I thought and that is why we need to create a police state where the week idiots just distract me we need a police state nineteen seventy-two satanic rituals publishes a companion to love as first book and then there's a comprehensive election of history's best supposedly most authentic black magic rituals includes this directive to his followers he says now does the High Man's role to produce the children the future quality more important but here's what's always going to be talking about the show not having another person in the room then so much radio over the years I'm so jealous of them in that sense where it's like yeah they're pushing the right now we need to allow ourselves to be you know we need not allow ourselves treated right we should be free to enjoy our lives not worry about the judgment of China mostly this Atlantic rituals book about rituals so finalists get into this the black mask or has talked about it people robes cult symbols daggers sacrifices and I've forgotten what that means is it it's a therapy technique defined as a spontaneous dramatization roleplaying basically dramatic self self presentation for person complete witch later renamed the attack which basically this guy to which is workshops she's running the time at the Black House The publisher describes the book as undiluted Gypsy Lore regarding the Forbidden Group to investigate and gain insight into their lives so really this is just a way to kind of be deprogrammed from Christianity is what Anton intends with ritual I'm not a multitasker okay let's jump back into time line where we land in one thousand nine hundred of the year after Anton Releases Tank Bible in Nineteen Seventy Anton publishes God damn baby smell good it's fucking sexy are you wearing new perfume or did you just take a dirty out of the trashing his rebel over your neck then he says this is terrifyingly related to Hitlerism So usually I can't even talk about it okay all right I mean I've had thoughts you know I've had thoughts about you know why don't we the concept of a demonic entity but it's very very rare and and a lot of like Le`veon's Satan it wouldn't even consider that person to say this roydon strong can figure out how to finally make these Goddamn spells work I'm sticking being able to fuck and teleport of working on it for too goddamn decades can't even fucking levitated because of the and he even downplays the significance of it in that sense he just as the black mass is a valid satanic ceremony only if one feels the need to perform it he says historically there is no ritual more closely linked satanism than the black mass long considered the principal elective of sadness who were soon never to tire trampling on crosses or steel unbaptise infants they've Satan see that's what's going to be right now no but now it's GonNa be kind of interesting enforcing none of the rituals have to do anything kind of sacrificing you know with babies or virgin will in many religions many pagans thing about the Aztecs we learned about longtime ago and yes people have you know sacrifice people in various little colts and then done it to you know the word Satan or the evidence of them doing something non-christians away to justify burning them or or torturing them or you know expose expulsion for the community and that sounds that's that's part of the problem with Satan is there's no central text really there's this the hitting Bible but not all saying this agree that that's what they're supposed to use there's no equivalent to the thinkers rebels but to concede that they were very real threat to the holy fathers such as Galileo and Davinci accused of traffic with the devil most certainly were satanic human child was not quite the way collectors of baptism fees gloatingly told it now Anton provides an interesting as far as I can tell do extra research accurate explanation of the original kind of black mass performed by many who call themselves Satan is today he says Catherine the Shays known as Lavar Johnson although to save to say that unlike the majority who bore the label of which those who conducted themselves say technically often earned it there stigma this is not meant to condone the actions of the inquisitors against such free has nothing else to do and it's independently wealthy newer and more blasphemous versions of the black mass You know have been invented in order to nourish their jaded existence you know but who's ineffectual prayers throw them to seek darker magic this sort of desperate miracle seeking is as prevalent today as it was then and the performance of one of her more popular and sometimes using an aborted fetus as a human sacrifice records indicate that she performed over two hundred abortions the priests would productions a clandestine highly commercial in version of the Catholic mass the Voisin provided authenticity but actually engaging willing Catholic priests as celebrates black masses a ritual has been performed cal times the participants often were not sameness but would act solely on the idea that anything contradictory to God must be the devil again because they don't have to be fucking talking the same time they listened to somebody else talk have the time I'll do jokes unlike radio the guy's not looking at me he's leaving the control board a Q. and shit up consider the social conditions of the time for centuries and France many men became priest because they were from upper class families and the priest was expected for at least one son of culture supposedly celebrate the Black Mass for her they supplied the holy propagandists more material if ordain priests were occasionally prone to take part in heretical writes it is understandable mainstream satanism so exam with ritual entails to he titles the section where explains the black mass original psychodrama psychodrama wiring well-developed mine could often be dangerously skeptical and subsequently irreverence so that's why they would do these rituals so there was a steady supply of depraved midwife lady pharmacists abortionist and someone who had a flair for theatrics nevertheless liberalizing the church what it needed a real honest to Satan black mass heretical most certainly perverse definitely but harmful evil probably not the exploits of Voisin which have been recounted in such a sensational manner if simplified reveal her as a beautician some people breed more in by certain people as being dummies by you chronically ignorance but yet does ring a little hillary says you know usually the Christian satanist miscreants who adopt Christian standards of Satanism Anton brings up another good point writing one factor refutable for every unborn baby offered up in the name of setting for various degrees of perversity ranging from harmless and or productive psycho-drama to actual heinous acts though substantiate the chronicles chroniclers wildest just been propaganda spread by various historical Christiaan Christian denominations basically anyone who wasn't a member of a church or of the Christian church you know they would use you know some kind of avenues of higher learning it was to be expected that the hermetic principle of as above so below and vice versa would apply to gifted and intelligent individuals and Satan during the clandestine playlets countless thousands of living babies and small children have been slaughtered in wars fought in the name of Christ might not be fun to hear nights she gave people an idea those who lean to the ideas expressed by Voisey's rice needed little encouragement to attempt to duplicate the rights for those persons the black mass provided in the sense that they express ideas and theories destined to break down the status quo the supposed- high point the black mass alleged to be the offering to Satan of an unbaptise raise Larouche at noi the red and black if one of the young men happened to be of an intellectual bent which was often the case the priesthood provided virtually the only access to libraries this is Lavar version of the black mass. I'm sure other people will actually you're supposed to this is the most agreed upon version the one most closely linked with me was the seventeenth century French businesswoman who peddle drugs and performed abortions the voisin arranged rituals charms and spells for clients all of whom wish to retain the safety of the church raced depraved ready willing to celebrate Satanic rites then he says the seventeenth century priests who celebrated the black mass need not have been intrinsically evil with this kind of theory went though titillating concept to many it is without validity as devoid of logic as the assumption that Christians Celebrate Good Friday every Wednesday afternoon there's a a naked woman needs to be the altar there's the illuminate or who holds a lighted candle needed for reading a thorough for a person who carries the ask was employed as propaganda against a heretical sects and orders few cared about the finer points differentiating the which from the cygnus both were one in the eyes of the inquisitors right to me directly convince a committee someone is panic and you can get rid of him you know see the Salem witch trials see the Spanish inquisition thousands of other examples Anton says Blackman and late nineteenth and early twentieth century France while it maintains the degree of blasphemous or blasphemy necessary to make it effective psychodrama it is it does not dwell on inversion some Goth Teen anarchist who hates Christianity in the world at large and he wants to worship the Christian devil so yeah it's all being set it well to do parents the first one was to become a military officer or politician and the second was sent to a religious order so controversial with this arrangement that it produced a catch actually worship the devil requirements performance participants consist of a priest the celebrant his immediate assistant the Deacon a secondary assistant a sub deacon which is in Bible in statements but it's not organized like state is very loose you know the sadness can arrange from a colt mind eight this hedonist Antonova types too synonymous with the beasts sometimes deem sometimes Satan himself the dark lord of many names and he's totally made up okay so back now the black mass ritual the naked traditionally hotline the voice input the Black Mass on the map and so succeeded in working some very real magic you know this is far more importance more potent than the spell she concocted for robes worn by all participants except to addresses a nun who wears the habits and the woman who's the alter who's newt so he'll lose Athena the pre important you know a Lotta time someone who define themselves say this is just really mad at the Christian God and he goes on and talk at great length about how most tales of black masses ducts the mass conducting the master's noted celebrate over his robe he wears a chargeable that sleeveless garment worn by Catholic priests delivering sermon except one that bears You know the Shirow meds and then King Philip if you recall seized on those accusations because he was an unscrupulous piece of shit when Pope Boniface eight threatened him with excommunication for kicking clergy out of the government fantasies depending on individual predilection those received inspiration for the likes Lavar could either affect therapeutically valid form of rebellion or her but think about that for a second how many people died in wars fought supposedly for the glory of God compared to how many babies have all likelihood actually been sacrifices satanic none which is just a woman dressed up as a Catholic nun but you know at during the same thing there's no none the church Satan this against to fuck you to cause Autism Ninety three from the Knights templar Botham is made up thing buffet is the Deity that the Knights Templars were accused of worshiping thirty seven by a former disgruntled templars name woman who serves as the altar lies on the platform with their body at right angles to its length her knees at its edge widely parted a pillow supports her head her arms outstretched cross I I would guess far more died in the name of God and died fighting others who thought they were fighting on behalf of the same God not saying this point makes the list of tool in some ways but is an audit is a patent a fancy fancy ceremonial plate maybe Peyton holding around way for Turnip or course Black Bread Donna the fourteenth century and they were coming to collect and so it just pain his money back he figured out a way to get rid of the templars and he ran with the Botham at accusation and augments standards of satanic ritual or employed Bell Chalice Falah Sword Gong etc a thorough incest or used the chalice containing wine or liquor is placed between the Altar Eskin deflore in in France a lunatic who said the templars practice sodomy spit on the cross worshiped demonic idol called Botham it I ever met symbols satanism the signal of Baltimat- complete with an inverted Pentagram in inverted cross and Brenton Boston a few times here if you remember because he gets tossed around that's from bonus acknowledging confessed my past era renouncing all past allegiances I proclaim that Satan Lucifer rules the earth and ratified renew my promise to recognize an honor him since which some say do but just not the religious type Satan it I mean not really I mean if you're thinking like well that does happen it has happened a few times people have sacrifice people he had been death he loved accusing people sodomy did it a lot of times you know when their demise would benefit him and he owed the templars a lot of money black veil perfectly the same fabric celebrates chargeable immediately in front of the challenges placed Fallas idle the ritual book placed on Small Standard Pillow Jr aluminum understanding to the the Sub Deacon at the right the three make a profound bow before the altar commends the ritual with the following verses and responses the celebrate begins I will cut off some of this women's Piquet just a little bit just enough to complete the ritual and then I need all of you to leave the room immediately so I can get to ball and baby bowler you my brother to bear witness and present me nude woman I offered to Glorious Lucifer to pay tribute to his glorious hedonism non I call upon you to hand me the sacrificial knife early for sake of blasphemy its prime purpose is to reduce or negate stigma acquired through past indoctrination right just kind of a middle finger towards Christianity more than that must take the uppermost or prominent position the cross occupies a space in the lower house of the altars legs you know there's all these exact detail of how you stop this pageantry the celebrant says some shit in English now before the mighty and ineffable prince of doctors and in the presence of all dread demons of the pit and there's assembled company side of the alternate the ritual book more blocking more stage instructions Anton says music should 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Highway Hi-Fi Ep. 79: The Music of Cults, Part 1

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Highway Hi-Fi Ep. 79: The Music of Cults, Part 1

"The. Woven highway high by a podcast where we go track by track through the underbelly of music, history, research and Trivia to locate the roots of our obsession with vinyl records I'm Joe and I'm Ryan and congratulations. You have joined the Internet's finest podcast for music that comes from Inorganic Vegetarian restaurant. Today. We're GONNA start off with. A little bit of Trivia Indoctrination. More. And I. saw. All right I am going to start. The ceremony so to speak with some audio trivia. And so the theme on this one's pretty obvious, your job is Joe or good listening audience. Just tell me. The name of the band and the name the song. Are you ready. Yes, trek one. Track to. Do. Go. Last. Class to. This trick three. US. By. E Fly. You've. Burning Trek five better than. I don't mean. Trek six. Trek seven. Look. Will Rise? To. The ground etrechy. Everything they go? You WanNa make. The. All right. So, I think the theme is. Pretty obvious, so you don't have to worry about guessing it. Just do your best to give me the name of the artist and the name of the song. We'll see how you dude you get any. Right now. I feel I feel okay about with about fifty percent of them. Okay not necessarily both song and artist, but I know I recognize. About half of them, I think they range from pretty easy to add be amazed. If anybody got it, so we'll see how many. Great. For my non Audio Trivia Round. What I'm GonNa do is describe a belief system that is either a cult or a band. And I'd like for you to tell me name of the cult or the band. And that's it. That's all you need to do right, so you're going to tell me a set of Dogma and I. Just have to decide whether it's a cold or banned until you which Cold War which banned. Correct all right. Let's do it all right. The first one just to give you an idea of what what I'm trying to do here. This leader started his sect in the mid to late nineteen seventies, but his followers never even saw him in person until two thousand four, despite his prolific sermonizing, which was sent to all who would listen mostly through the mail. I'm guessing that would be Janjic. It is Jandak Yep thought good art one that. I thought we were familiar with Iran softball warming up. The leader of this cult encourages his followers to eat only food that has been found with a lot of it already partially eaten and to avoid bathing at all cost. He also frowns mightily on laughing at least for now. I think that's Charlie. Manson I think that's a family. It's not. It's actually a cult called the brethren now. Okay, they are also known as the garbage eaters. So that's a real. A A rose by any other name. A HALF EATEN CHALUPA by any other name so. The hefty garbage and they can't laugh about it. They are not allowed to dance or laugh until Jesus comes back. Sounds like a certain groucho. No. ME. Oh Oscar! If the shoe fits. Okay here's the next one. This. Cult leader claims he can see someone's past and future by looking at their feet. Quentin. Tarantino Very good. It is a Japanese cult cult Ho no Hana. Wasn't going to get. That got like thirty thousand members. And that crazy, so he just looks at your feet and can tell your soul. Making see your past and future. All Right? This group dresses up in World War Two. And tries to catch food and goods that fall from the sky. I have no idea. Is that the that the December I? It is. That's good, though it's actually a cult, it's called the John from cult, and it's one of the most widely reported examples of a cargo cult, so a cargo cult is a group that formed around. World War Two usually right after on islands where soldiers were having food and shipments dropped from planes to them, so Beija believe that performing these same rituals they will then receive more cargo. Sort of a real life. The gods must be crazy type situation yes. All right like many Colt leaders. This one claims to be from outer space, and the leader could very well be the most convincing of all of the leaders who claim to be from outer space. In front of followers and outsiders alike, he was always adorned with close from his home planet, and would speak in tongues and front of nonbelievers. Spe- son Raw I thought. Maybe you would go there. Zola X. Zoeller ex. That's it Oh God good. I knew they had their own language. This cult led by a guy who calls himself Jahic with started as an offshoot of a prayer group for teenagers a broke off from the Presbyterian Church. After a service was canceled in favor of watching the super bowl. I feel like I've heard this before. I? Don't know it's not the trees community is. Now it's called twelve tribes. Oh yeah, yeah, they're like the Yellow Deli people. They tried to recruit me. Wants really a year Mata restaurant. How or why did they want you? Because I. have a spectacular beard the. Like wearing a beard flannel, which is apparently kind of what they wear, so I thought this guy's shooting. He already the look. Is True, story. They wouldn't leave me alone. I couldn't eat. Drink my yearbook, Mata and peace. That's the one that. What they do is they don't have their music, but they will host music grateful dead, and those sorts of concerts they will host them and kind of sponsor them and recruit heavily at those concerts, so they do kind of have a time to music. Oh cool I'm glad you mentioned that. All right This cult leader professes that spaceships with God is a passenger have come to Earth to save us. All the leader moved his flock to Garland Texas. Because garland sounds like God's land to him. He predicted that on March. Thirty First Nineteen ninety-eight golic would appear in the leaders, his likeness on channel eighteen of. Television set in North America. I researched this will. Hold on. Give me a second. Think. He had any music. He's Asian I, think. Yes. I forget I won't get it. The colts is called true way cult true Yep. All right. This leader was. A racist Amazon genetic and he was naked during nine any of his sermons, members would bathe in his urine during services. And when he died, he was buried with whiskey and heroin. That's gee-gee Allen. It is yeah all right. Let's call. It has leaders who insist on being called generals. They follow a military like structure inspired by the Salvation Army members are trained to surrender their free will, and are not allowed to do anything. Their leaders wouldn't want them to do. I was GONNA. Say Salvi me. I don't know Sergeant Pepper's lonely hearts club band I don't know. It is called the aggressive Christianity Missionary Training Corps Whoa. Weird? Got Two more. This cult was formed by a leader who covers his head and face with a cleansed container. He preaches to his followers about the evils of eating meat taking it even further, he claims to have been raised by chickens. The container he puts on his head is preferably a KFC book. That helps. Bucket bucket head. I couldn't get more. See Out of my head. Assistant does more see. Where container on his head sometimes. Last one the of this cold believes he is the human incarnation of a supreme being called alcon Torah, which combines Christ Buddha Muhammad, and a bunch of other deities to create a nine dimensional heaven with him at the head, and its tax exempt in the US. No idea. The colts called Happy Science. Happy Science Wow. I think I got most of the band's. I should have got more of the colts. Yeah, you got three. Colts out there or you got all you gotta four. Yeah. I just thought it'd be kind of fun to go through. Some of the Trivia the colts that I didn't think we would be talking about at all, and because there's no music engulfed. especially, the garbage eaters. Man Thought. You wished the garbage had had a band. Play play the old chicken boat. Trach Gan leads. That's it for Trivia for this episode I think it's time to move onto our main feature turntable talk. Every month is talk in me. I don't hear a word this. Only the. Serve! The snow rage. The engine finally died in the car slowly rolled to a stop. Returning from a concert Dave, bixby felt familiar darkness encroaching again. He started the agonizing walk home. The past couple of years, he felt like shadow of a person. Carefree Highschool revelries of Pot Beer beach parties banned practices had suddenly change too constricting nightmares on Bella, Donna and LSD. Police psychologist. His parents all refused to understand his emptiness. The acid trips had left him fragmented. All the people he used to know to quote another musician. Where lose to him now? He was in hell with no way to communicate. He looked at the filthy slush on the ground seep through his shoes, more and more with each step, and he thought about giving it all up. That's when he became aware of presence. The street was desolate except for the snowfall, but he heard a crystalline voice chime in his mind David I'm with you and have been with you from the beginning. He knew it was the personage of Christ. Dave tried to share his encounter with his friends and family, but they dismissed him as just another Bernau. WHO's hearing voices in his head. And maybe that's all. He was even thought to himself. Feeling totally lost and alone eternal music, and started writing songs about his life, his pain struggle with drugs and his hope for something more. He wrote about thirty songs in a two month ban. Finally Buddy from one of his former bands took Dave. Two Small Youth Prayer Circle at the House of a guy named Don to graph. The graph understood and believe Dave and prayed over him. David never felt so spiritual engaged with anyone. His mind was beginning to clear. Bixby went home from the prayer. Meeting fasted for three days and was born in new. He had found a family who believed in him. Shortly after this awakening to graph heard bixby play his gorgeous harrowing songs at a coffeehouse to graph, was taken with the power of his testament and encouraged bixby to play his prayer meetings. Based on the charismatic preaching of to graph and Bixby, sincere music, the number of kids in attendance skyrocketed. They started using church basements in local schools and colleges around grand rapids. Michigan for larger meetings and gatherings. bixby's heartened music was. To graphs, message and extremely important in getting more kids to show up regularly for the meetings. The people who attended were dubbed the group. By nineteen, sixty nine to graph, convinced bixby to record an album and paid for the studio and pressing of a thousand records. The record would be called Ode to quit. Sakado it's a stark and lonely album with just bixby and guitar. quicko coddle is the Aztec Serpent God of wind and wisdom. Bixby connection to the myth that he would walk the earth as the protector of men with Christ liabilities and demeanor. On, the back of the record was bixby simple testimony. I destroyed my life with drugs and removed myself from reality never to return in my darkest loneliest moment I cried unto God for my sanity. The record was so painfully honest and immersive that people who herded felt drawn to the destruction and redemption contained on this mesmerizing wax. The record would be sold by members of the group and Bixby's music would bring more kids and more money into the fold. He had gone from lost and alone to being a messenger of God and playing in front of three hundred kids a show. However as the popularity of the music and membership of the group grew things with the graph started to shift. I he started asking people to refer to the group as the movement. And he was to be referred to as sir. He started telling members of the movement that God had wanted them to start peddling amway products a pyramid scheme for selling beauty accessories. It also panhandle in south combs, stating the donations were for their youth group. All the money went directly back to the movement and to the graph. Also he'd started making a habit of taking his younger female followers to bed. Sir compelled bixby to record another album. However, this record was a bit different. Played with a full band album, second coming was simply credited to harbor with no mention of Bixby at all, despite him, pending all the tunes. Several songs on the record were about the power of Sir though they didn't specifically mention him. The cover is a painting of him embedded in sunflowers. Bixby has said that the graph wanted to be invisible to the world and to star at the same time. Sir had his members hanging posters, selling tickets and selling records out of the trunks of their cars. Bixby was drawn deeper and deeper into the new found fame. By Nineteen seventy-two, the movement was raising eyebrows with parents. Amway and the FBI. Graph quickly moved his people to various enclaves around the country Ohio Florida Alabama and Texas at first. Eventually to graph had amassed enough money to buy a small ski resort in the SANGRE decrease. Dome Mountains of Northern New Mexico. which operated under the name of the Religious Order of spectrum? During this time, men in the group had to remain celibate while the women were to bear servers children. Over the course of several years expe- stayed with de Graph, but started seeing the hypocrisy in his teaching and the exploitative nature of the movement. Eventually, he got out and started helping others get out as he felt responsible for bringing so many of them in. In Nineteen, seventy seven, he even worked with parents to find the kids at the ski resort and help them reassess their lives. He said they just needed someone who was there to say this. No longer works you need to make some decisions for yourself and quit being shot. bixby eventually faded from the spotlight as the renown of ODA to quit so coddle grew as a loner folk classic. So acclaimed and rare that copies would sell for two thousand dollars. Eventually! He was tracked down and told his story for a couple of decades he work playing cover songs in bars and lounges moving from town to town. He has since helped get. His records reissued given interviews about his involvement with the movement and played concerts to still completely enraptured audiences. The whereabouts of graph are unknown. For a time. He took a small Harem to las. Vegas It's rumored that he died in a helicopter crash, but as Bixby says, who knows. moved. Among. List. I should be calm. Off. Life if you haven't been paying attention is complicated. When threatened with the onslaught of realities, challenges, often a flight mode kicks in. Not only are we running away from something? We also run to something if not into something, a safe harbor and away. A place that is inviting and. Family and hope. All the While we look for easy answers to questions that are often impossible to answer. The meaning of life and a nice manageable bite sized chunk. The need for collective belonging and the need for faith. Faith in something. This is why colts have been able to exist on the fringes of society for so long. And why so many people can fall into the societal traps? Once in snared is difficult to untangle in escape as one sense of self and identity are slowly broken down. When French political scientist Alexis de Tocqueville visited the United States in the eighteen thirties he was most impressed by the fact that Americans of all ages all stations in life, and all types of disposition or forever forming associations. For people that often pride themselves on individualism, Americans tend to be very realistic. Right now there are thousands of the colts in America and maybe tens of thousands worldwide. While the vast majority may only have a handful of people many flourish with significant influence through membership money in message. Some of these groups might be seen as quirky, but ultimately benign some not so much. Colts can manifest themselves in any number of ways. They deal in the currency of human beliefs, religious political racist or terroristic beliefs. And can be delivered in the form of a prophesying doomsday, increasing human potential or enhancing one's position, using new age techniques, black magic crystal skulls anything on Gwyneth, paltrow's website or other supernatural means. And while it can be difficult to know exactly when a group is truly a Colt. They tend to share three things. A charismatic, often authoritative leader and indoctrinating program into a transcendental belief, system and system of control through exploitation. These self-styled leaders prey upon the most valuable members of society. Generally those are the most stable and predictable of us. Cult US burying means of conditioning and thought reform through deception, isolation, dependency and fear. One of the more fascinating tools in their horrible toolbox of manipulation is the use of music. As with the case of Bixby and graph, there is a strange balance and co-dependency of music and mind control. Music is consistently seen playing a role in the establishment and functioning of colts, radical sects and new religious movements. It can not only bring people together. But it can also bring people into the fold. Today, we will delve into the bizarre world of music made from within colts. The tunes that were left behind as relics of evidence of exploitation and excessive destructive devotion. Results that are so strange because they were almost certainly weaponized by brainwashed minion. Music that is created in a vacuum of narcissism removed from free thought and outside influence. Hymns to self appointed. Prophets Savior's divine conduits Christ reincarnate. Gurus Faith Ailey leaders and stink probably. We'll look at music from some of the world's most infamous colts as well as the songs that are so insular. They make no sense outside of their context. Even when that context itself makes no sense either. So cleanse off. You Shaqra Open your mind pool under robes and lace up your nikes today the music of the colts. Join US, won't you? Forever. We. Don't typically bother qualifying of much. We say here, but this one's a bit different for us. We fully understand and recognize that many the people in groups mentioned in this episode are evil in Garnett. What we're trying to do is look at and study a specific tool of manipulation that many colts used in various ways. When we make light of any of the following colts, you can refer back to our laughter records episode when we speak about nervous laughter being helpful when discussing serious and scary topics. The use of music and sacred ceremonies of course has ancient roots. Ritualistic Song and dance is seemingly as oldest humanity itself. The U. for chemical reactions that music and in our brain are powerful, emotional addictive. And while these properties are certainly what drives our desire and passion for music? They also leave US Open for manipulation. From the creation of inappropriate feedback loops that link are automatic emotional reactions to stimuli that is being wheeled by long bearded, White, robed puppet master. Who wants to sleep with your sister? Think Pavlov's dogs except that instead of salivating at the sound of bells, dot's feel intense mind expanding pleasure at the sound of bad folk music. Coupled with a charming leader, social isolation peer pressure, and often drugs and sex. Music is a strong controlling mechanism. The possibility for exploitation by colts through music takes many forms. The I of course is recruitment. Just as owed to quit Sakado appeal directly to people already feeling listless music as a social bonding force much like you might seek out people similar cultural taste, those looking for a strong communal tie be attracted to music that speaks to them who they are and who they want to be with. This especially so if that style music has been prohibited in the past by authority figures like parents or religious leaders. Music is also particularly good at finding a way to teach doctrine in a light and memorable way. Think about how Sunday schools across the world teach children about their faiths tenants through catchy silly songs. Same idea, except the songs are meant to elucidate the reasons why the leader should be praised and needs two dozen wives. And that togetherness that you feel when you hear lots of people singing about the same set of flawed dogma creates even more of a feeling that what is being espoused is the truth. and. It makes you fear questioning it, and possibly to the point of no longer finding reasons to question it at all. When colts produce their own music, you provides the opportunity to create more isolation in their ranks. They are selecting what music is acceptable for their believers, while additionally shutting out any outside influence, the outside world in this music is evil destructive. An additional layer of control that like many cold acts can be seen on the surface as communal and family building. But actually isn't dusing dependency enforcing submission. Sometimes colts will even used tunes from Popular Music but adapt the lyrics for their own purposes much like a deranged self-important weird al.. For, example scum of the Earth Borough Baptist church is especially fond of perverse parody songs that elaborate on their hateful garbage beliefs such as Santa. Claus will take you to hell. Trust us. It's it's not worth hearing. Music can create a sort of altered consciousness leaders, hoping to discourage critical thought tell their followers to turn to music, chanting rhythm and meditation whenever they are presented with a challenge. Rather than using healthy expression of emotion or dealing with the issue by thinking about realistic steps. They have no opportunity for a reality check instead focusing on the leader and positioning them as the answer to their problems. Songs of worship aimed at the co-leader leader, both feed the EGO and project power. The delegatory music establishes him as an overseer master and leader without forcing them to actually perform any tasks. It allows them to play out a self, idolatrous fantasy of rock and roll star, but within their own personal vision of the world. If people are writing songs about someone, they must be important, right? On the more crazy end of the spectrum are the groups that believe the music has magical or scientific properties that are necessary for actual physical, reshaping and transcendence. You see these beliefs in more new age focus groups with reliance on the song itself to be transformative. In while the sort of whimsical idea, that music can be used for mind, control might conjure images of more primitive Hossa, animism, spiritual possession, trance, dances, or hippy dippy crystal powered out of body experiences. You don't have to look too far to find instances where mainstream conservative Americans believe that music could control behaviors, the hypnotism record fad music stimulus progression. Billy Joel's records were the back masking. Panic. All the same there are definitely colts who believe music has the ability to elevate one's mind, regulate one soul or restructure one's body. Take for example. This track that a group called the wing makers listen to as a vehicle for genetic reconstruction as provided humankind. By Nice time traveling aliens. Has Your DNA Joe. CRISPY! As! We discussed in our episode on the Jesus People Explosion of the late nineteen sixties, music became an integral factor and gathering and recruiting kids to convert them. This movement was soon taken to extremes as colts used the same idea, but in a more dangerous narrowly focused manner. The explosion of colts happened to coincide with the private press vanity record industry boom of the late sixties through the early eighties. An endless amount of records were pressed in tiny quantities that were entirely focused on drawing people into these factions. These records are often very boring. Occasionally very funny. Once in a while very terrifying and rarely very good. Colts also have adapted further by embracing the ease of cassette distribution of the eighties, the website boom of the two thousands, and of course modern social media where you still find online forums on platforms, like read it for Chan and even youtube channels that nudge young impressionable people toward extremism through a combination of memes, conspiracy, theories and algorithm driven playlists. Once fully and meshed. The Believers are sent out to recruit like them with all the recruitment music videos in memes at their fingertips. Make colts great again. As, we start to discuss specific groups in records. We need to mention that we are not going to talk specifically about bands that were formed more around a commune or art collective. Even though there may be some similarities in style and approach, the lack of coercive persuasion to ideology means that they are a different crystal ball of wax. This will be bands like the Perth. County conspiracy, the trees community on dual the Chai Commune Akron family, the family of apostolic or Wavy Gravy Farm. Artists with Colt Lake Habits and following such as Sun, raw or failure Cudi. We are also going to leave out records from a cult figures like Alister Crowley Wylie Anton levay. Though probably will be coming back to these sorts of bands at some point, and we aren't going to cover the band the Colt so sorry if you're waiting on that. She sells sanctuary somewhere else. By the seashore. This'll be a two part episode. Next week we will get to some of the lesser known wackier colts, but in this first episode we're going to focus on the music of a few of the world's most recognizable colts, Colt leaders. Unfortunately the most notorious of these colts established the reputation after hideous tragedy, often featuring a terrible waste of life. We won't spend much time talking to the actual Colt history itself there about a billion podcast documentaries out there that. Have you covered on that? But we'll just mainly discuss the musical aspects of those groups. Might as well start with the granddaddy of the modern new religious movement. The SCIFI writer turned founder of the pay to elevate Church of Scientology. L Ron Hubbard. He likened himself a composer and producer, and was said to force his devotees to patiently listen to any and all of his musical whims, and what he calls the symphony of life. In nineteen seventy four, he had the house band meet bags from the scientology sea or ship the Apollo make a wacked out jazz fusion album under his musical direction. The album was titled The power of source by the Apollo Stars, and it's a frantic Afro. Beaten acid jazz tinged tour force. Hubbard would play the entire record complete with the dance troupe before meetings. A little slice Z. new. But he didn't stop there. In Nineteen Eighty Two L. Ron recruited some pretty big jazz rock names from the scientology ranks including chick. Corea Stanley Clarke Nicky Hopkins to make a soundtrack album for the novel battleship. Earth! The record that was made under his musical supervision was called. Space, JAZZ! Hubbard was really into a computer synthesizer called the fairlight. SEE 'EM I which cost over twenty five thousand dollars at the time, and it was used extensively on the album. Along with a bunch of inexplicable whore, sound on the song wind splitter. A few years later, he wrote a rock opera soundtrack for his ten novel series. Mission Earth Andy had. Heartthrob Guitarist Edgar Winter. Recorded It's got some gnarly. That sends those e meters off the chart. All. Aw. Later he gathered a few of his most famous acolytes John Travolta leave Garretson and frank, stallone or fly to his friends to help him spread the Dianetics Gospel by singing, soft rock ballads on record called road to freedom. The gusto of the delivery of lines like you are not mind or chemicals, you don't even have form. You're a trap of senseless lies. It's time to be reborn is enough to stir the most seventh beaten and make you get out your checkbook. which you probably need as members of the CIO s were encouraged to buy several copies of the album to distribute to friends and family. Naturally it is the vocal stylings of Mr L. Ron himself. That really gets you exterior arising. In an episode that will be full of terrible songs. This one might be the worst, so we're not gonNA. Play it. Just kidding, one of we ever held back onto you. Here's the BIGWIG himself singing. Thank you for listening shortly before he dropped the body. Try not to clear. I do not see what I. I'll give them. A. Wide. Their wise too will have you. Believe it or not the next most famous musical madman cult leader as a connection to scientology. Charles Manson gave it an honest go and prison in the seventies, even spending one hundred and fifty hours auditing before deciding the religion was just too crazy. Let that sink in for just a moment. Of course, Manson's own helter skelter musical ambitions might be some of the most famous in the world a colts. A self-styled Songwriter Manson was totally enmeshed in enamored with the Laurel. Canyon seen charming. Many prominent rockers including Dennis Wilson, Neil Young John Phillips and CASS Elliot among others. After learning to play guitar during a stint in federal penitentiary, and understanding the allure of rock and roll along with sex drugs, he came out to La and worked hard to get a record deal with some minor success. The beach boys infamously covered. His song ceased to exist. As a nineteen sixty eight side retitled never learn not to love making it the second most evil song. The beach boys ever did. Right behind Kokomo. Denny took the songwriting credit though as he traded it from Manson for some cash. And a motorcycle. Here's both versions. Never had an ESA. I ever. We all get. Not. MISSION IS A. God given brother. Understand. Allegedly there is a tape a full ban demos that Charlie recorded at Brian Wilson's home studio, but like Manson they're not likely to get released anytime soon. That joke was written more than a decade ago. I've been sitting on it. For a brief moment, the birds and Paul Revere and the raiders producer Terry Melcher. Had agreed in principle to getting Manson a contract, but decided against it as he felt for some reason, the kid might be a little to a radic. Go figure. Anyway, this shunning set into motion, the horrific family murders at the Tate Polanski home, which had until recently been meltzer's house. Before that, he was able to lay down a demo with Bill Kauffman. Kauffman actually did time with Manson before becoming a player on the scene by managing gram Parsons and being a Rhody for the Rolling Stones Emmylou Harris and Frank Zappa. Once everything went down. Manson begged Kaufman to put out the recordings. He raised three thousand dollars, two thousand copies pressed and released the record with the title. Live the love and terror Colt in nineteen seventy. The record was distributed by the Bootleg Label Trademark of quality, which was also famous for bringing Dylan's great white wonder to prominence. Despite it only originally selling three hundred copies slowly, Manson's album was an underground hit and has grown in. It's dark history with a huge number of artists, covering his tunes, including guns and Roses Sonic, boom gee-gee Allen Crispin Glover defender Ban, heart and the Brian Jonestown massacre. Brian Jonestown massacre's Anton newcomb claims that he had recorded with Manson, but didn't really detail how this collaboration occurred. Just explaining that is a mystic, so check out. The family that he casually suggested to do his sadistic bidding had long been wrapped up in his music. They're singing songs whilst the dumpster diving for food. Around, the Campfire at the spahn ranch, and of course famously walking to their trial. And eventually family members on the outside with commit to tape his songs likely is request. The record called. The family jams doesn't have Manson on it, but he is given credit for all the songwriting. Recorded around nineteen seventy, it wasn't released until nineteen ninety-seven and featured Clem Grogan Sandra good squeaky FRAHM, Catherine Gypsy, share and others. It's crazy in the sound of delusion, devotion to their imprisoned leader. Here's the spine tingling track. Get on home. Yang? Poll. On. Honestly for lot of this album, if you didn't really know who the band was, you might think it was a pretty good private press album. It's worth listening to just not backwards. There are a couple. Other cults have bands that will be talking about on this episode in the next episode. That are also pretty good. This is up near the top for me. The most skilled musician of the family was undoubtedly bobby, Beausoleil. Beausoleil had some rock and roll bonafides. He was in an early iteration of love with Arthur Lee. Called the grass roots, but not the midnight confession guys. He then formed a free form instrumental PSYCHEDELIC group with an occult bent called Orchestra. David La flame later of it's a beautiful day was also in the group that made a name for dark electric orchestrations like this poon jobs, barber. After that beausoleil starred in filmmaker Kenneth Anger's Alastair. Crowley's inspired flick Lucifer rising. Though. The project fell apart and was shelved. Listless Beau Soleil fell in with the Manson family, and like an unfortunate many members of that club ended up murdering someone. While in prison, he was able to convince anger to let him try to record a soundtrack for the movie after Jimmy Page angers. First choice wasn't up for the task. Using a band made up of inmates dubbed the Freedom Orchestra some handcrafted electronic instruments, and a cell made prison studio anger was able to create a fantastically creepy atmospheric soundtrack, which was released in nineteen eighty. Beausoleil has continued to create interesting music while serving his life sentence. How he made such a involved in. Intricate album in prison is is beyond me. It really is. There are some people who you think. achieve their fame through those horrible things. And there are some. People who you feel like could've achieved fame and. Artistic expression in a much better way. Beausoleil I, think really could have. Done some great things had he stayed away from Manson. Murdering someone really hindered his career, yes. Of course, possibly the saddest chapter in the history of American colts was Jonestown. Five years prior to the end, we all know about nineteen seventy three members of the Jim Jones lead people's Temple, or in a different world, where ideals such as unity, racial equality and social justice are being taught in practice in a flourishing new religious movement headquartered in San Francisco. One of the members at the time was a young man named Jack, Arnold, beam, whose grandmother and parents had long been devout members of the People's Temple. Being had played in rock bands and had the look of a young hipster, so Jones asked him to reorganize modernized the church, choir and band. Beam immediately added new material including more modern songs and sounds and pushed the group to play more professionally. The group reflected the diversity of the church with people of all ages and races represented. As they became more cohesive. Jones would use them to ramp up the fervor at temple meetings before and in between the sermons, the songs are mostly hymns with the occasional pop hit thrown in albeit with modified lyrics, sometimes to make the songs more politically in line with the group socialist beliefs. And sometimes just to have a little bit less Jesus and a little bit more Jimmy. Eventually being approached Jones about getting a record cut as a fundraiser Jones love the idea and the resulting album. He's able is a passable but typical gospel pop record. Bridge. Bad. Sue. The cover features scores of choir members in blue uniforms at the Golden Gate Park. On the back picture of their leader with the quote, our choir consists of people from all walks of life. We are dedicated to one common cause making the humanistic teachings of Jesus Christ part of our daily lives. Our inspiration is a lifestyle demonstrated by our pastor James W Jones. The man himself appears on the record as a soloist on the song down from his glory. Beam! Recalls. Jones came in around bit night, surrounded by bodyguards, never taking off his sunglasses, and belting out the song with the zest of a man singing of his own divinity like Frank Sinatra saw. Law. He. Saw Shaw you say all. Allegedly forty thousand copies were pressed and thousands were sold though this honestly seems like an overestimate based on the rarity of the record these days. It's like they must have thrown thirty eight thousand into the bay. The production sounds professional and has some not abysmal tunes, though probably would have been lost in the annals of time, if not for the bleak future that awaited many members of the choir in the of Jonah. Beam left the group of four. They moved to South America but many members of the choir were at Jonestown. Some were even in the commune's house band the Jonestown Express. That was playing the night that Congressman Leo Ryan came to investigate. Jim Jones's soon to be fallen utopia. Father yoed formerly Jim. Baker might have the strangest life story of any musician, cult leader, or maybe just person in general. While history is far too vast in Labyrinthine to cover here. Some of the highlights include. Questionable World War Two medals a Swedish massage school. Failed Tarzan tryouts. jujitsu mastery Sandal shops. Not One but two self-defense murders by Ninja Chop to the throat. Three alleged bank robberies a purple. Rolls Royce lots of pills. LSD, booze and broken families. A shifty, Guru. Yogi Bijon. And one very successful organic vegetarian restaurant on the sunset strip called the source. This is all before starting leading Los Angeles Colt that would make some of the best psychedelic music of the era. The immensely hip health food restaurant that was patronized by a WHO's who of Hollywood elite, would be a springboard for newly christened father Yo to practice and teach a new form of mysticism that would coal practice some biology and fashioned from any number of transcendental cultures including Hindu. Native American Egyptian. DRUID norse templar and apparently Atlantan. Unlike some of the dirtier earthier, local other Colts Yoda was insistent on him, and his following, looking sharp, he sported a leisure suit. Slash AEROB- hybrid complete with giant medallions, ridiculous hats and a beard. That would make Santa. Claus blush. He soon recruited ranks, especially good looking girls from his spiritual training sessions, which included cold showers yoga in imbibing the sacred herb, as it means that passage to the halls of a Mantha a mental journey to the center of the Earth. He also got married I to just one woman. Who He convinced to come with him to an Ashram for some Kalani, Yoga, instead of going to her friend Sharon Tate's house for an informal. Get together. However he then got married to thirteen. Other women dubbed his spiritual wives, several of whom were eight age. They all lived in a rented mansion with a bunch of other devotees and hangers on funded entirely by the restaurant. Things with father got a bit more intense as he started getting into Golden, dawn, sexual magic preaching about an upcoming apocalypse. And he began calling himself. You Ho, which was his term for God. Eventually, the group got strong-armed California and move to Hawaii where you Hawas decided to try hang gliding for the first time without any help or training whatsoever. He died from injuries sustained during the crash landing, Allah. Toga wearing while coyote. And all that would be crazy enough, but during this time Father Yoda and his followers would record read landless lay under a myriad of different band names, Father Yoda, and the spirit of seventy six children of sixth root race Yahu, Wa Thirteen Fire Water Air, savage sons of Yahoo A- breathe and my favorite yoed ship. Excuse me is. Just ask questions. The. Band's origins lay in the collection of musicians that were gathering at the source home. Father sent his followers outwit thirty thousand dollars probably of their parent's money to buy instruments and recording gear and set up a makeshift studio in the garage. After morning spiritual boot camps, he would gather the band to start. Rockin out and was always recording after some major labels rejected Yoda advances. He took the show on the road and played a bunch of high schools and colleges with a constant eye out for the future. Associates! Rolling up to a rock and roll concert in a Rolls Royce flanked with lots of great look and women, wearing his finest double-breasted robe, probably helped his cause, and certainly didn't hurt his already engorged ego. The Band's lineup was constantly changing, but normally had the source family members Jin Aquarian Guitar Octavius aquarian on drums and sunflower aquarian on, Bass. The music is entirely improvisational with no album taking longer to compose then the time it took to record. The sound veered from intensely powerful to laughably amateur. There is the occasional milk toast folk stuff. But when the band went off, they sounded like a Proto Kraut, rock, heavy acid trip. Lots of tribal drumming and freak out guitars with father yoed chanting, proselytizing, chortling riffing, and on rare occasions singing. He also played a mean kettle drum. There are some records that were recorded under Yahoo spiritual guidance, but without his singing sky, Saxon of the seeds was a member of the cult for hot minute and played on a few tracks. The band's under his umbrella even continued recording after Yoda. Bout with gravity. It's rumored that sixty five albums. Worth of music was recorded though only nine wherever actually pressed and an incredibly small quantities, these were sold at the restaurant for ten bucks, a copy or given out amongst the commune. They become some of the most sought after records from the PSYCHEDELIC. Era and command incredibly high prices. If you can even find them. Fortunately tapes of the unreleased records and several of the main albums are slowly being reissued by drag city. There is a world of madness to sift through. So here are a few of the records that we think you should be listening to I. Use debut album Kodak was recorded and released in nineteen seventy-three. The backup singer shine in the band is decent on the instrumental sections, but play with less conviction when Yoda singing. For this album yield is not the answer. His voice is affected, but he's really good improvisations. His singing comes off like a sermon, but not a sermon from the mound or in a church. Take Away. The music is his sermon. You'd hear in the parking lot of circle at bar. Time. He never runs out of Gibberish to tell us. Nineteen, seventy four Yoda and company recorded and released seven. Four using the name Ya, thirteen and three using father yoed in the spirit of seventy six. The. Album, all or nothing at all was the first one of that year and. It's the first one in which she doesn't make an appearance. He may have been in the CAN. It's a very good album on its own, but as a YODA ALBUM LETDOWN Decent folk psych with pleasant singing and music, which ends up being disappointing. The next album for is one of our favorites. It's called contraction, and it has a much more confident preacher at the helm. His rants nearly make sense, and the band has gotten even better adding more funk and tribal rhythms. This album comes closer to actually containing distinguishable songs, but it's it's basically one long song with a couple blips that may not have been recorded at exactly the same time. By the end of the song that makes up ninety percent of the album yoed reaches his climax with a wailing. You need to hear to believe, but please don't believe at all. For the next album expansion. Yield and the gang pick up right where they left off with contraction. And may have even been recorded during the same acid trip. Contraction was the stronger material and probably enticed more members into the madness. You are the indestructible struck a. what is it about time you have? The next two releases in nineteen, seventy, four absolute peak yoed worship. I might have joined the fold just to get my hands on on these records. The first of them is the best album I've heard by the group and it's called I'm GonNa. Take you home. The album cover shows Yoda in mid procreative functions. Not only is a member of the flock pictured. But YODA own member makes its first appearance. That alone is worth the album. Oh, and it's a gate fold obviously. Songs finally show up on this album to in the songs are incredible. The Band is tight and has more of a crowd rock edge to it and yoed is full of ranting and proselytizing at its most mystifying. The next album is called penetration, and it's another. Burn Burn. The Band is cracking in. Yoed is in full control of member. From there to mostly downhill there are three more respectable releases immediately, following penetration with to being released in Nineteen, seventy four. These are savage sons of Yaohua and you Hoa Thirteen. Sons doesn't have yoed on it, so it's a hard pass unless you're only interested in good musicians jamming without wretched screaming. Yoho thirteen is the commercial album. He was clearly trying to be more radio friendly with this one. There are songs on it instead of a song on it. They also seem more thought through and planned. In some way. J.. Pouch. Singing. The last one we're going to mention is the best yoed album after GonNa, take you home and penetration. It's called principles for the children. Yoda's back in his sweet spot with basically one song on the album on this album. Yoed is indeed the answer rather than simply a question that goes. Unanswered as he wasn't his last couple albums, hear him scream and picture him gesticulating in his nearly open rope. In your mind, you can see clearly the only member that was allowed to get out. You. Form the. USURP. Teens for Christ was one of the multitude of gatherings formed in the Jesus people wave, but was soon twisted into one of the most heinous and far-reaching colts called the children of God or eventually the family or the Family International. Four by David. Berg or his preferred name of Moses David who found that if he dressed like a liberal arts, Hippie college professor, he could get more people to listen to his vision of spiritual. Revolution Apocalypse, soothsaying and distrustful message of the system and the empty headed system Mites. Soon. He was using horrendously exploitative. Maine's of recruitment in particular practice called flirty fishing, which has just as discussing as a sounds. He's also very fond of using music, particularly aimed at youth to draw people into the various one hundred and thirty commune's colonies scattered across the globe. Hit A big name to Jeremy Spencer. Was the guitarist and fleetwood Mac when it was still a respectable British blues band, not tangled ball of cocaine and hormones. After some bad mescaline trips and increasing paranoia about touring with the band. Spencer left a dear Mick letter and his hotel room the night before a huge show at the whisky, a go go in nineteen seventy one. The band and their manager searched la looking high and low for their loss guitarist. Most mostly high. But when they found him, he take it up with the children of God, and couldn't be persuaded to return to the MAC. Spencer used his rock and roll credentials to quickly rise in the ranks and was in charge of the group's musical output. It didn't take long for him to put on record called Jeremy Spencer and the children to sell Berg's babble at concerts. The record is better than average Christian folk rock stuff with a really talented guitarist. Here's. Can you hear the song? God! Pat? Spencer put out another album called flea in nineteen, seventy, nine, the sound, sadly like us trying to imitate the current fleetwood. Mac Sound with lyrics, spouting disturbing Eh scatology and not Tusk. Breath. The spring. Boost. Spencer continues to play music and be affiliated with the family. I would recommend for people out there. Do not do what I did. Do not look up what flirty fishing is. Nope not good stuff. Of God's numbers rose to the tens of thousands Berg encouraged his followers to play guitar and write music and do a lot of panhandling. Interestingly, he had his acolytes make music appropriate for their country to spread his twisted Gospel. In France a eurovision type band, called Les and founded do were on nationwide television and Atta hit single with my love love. The organization directed followers to buy the records from the stores and then sell them on the streets in an attempt to skyrocket the record in the charts. Oldest. They. Used similar methods with popular co G. Bands in Italy and Mexico they also had a few Itam set some good old fashioned built rock here in the states. Check out this anti-capitalist system track, green magic carpet ride, which according to the band will only cost you your soul. It from a record called the bold die. Young credited only to the children of God. Some blow on. Washington on his queen. It. Serial number six, six, six ten. You're saying in. Three magic copped. COSSO Todd. And I. Read the small print said. As technology devolved records gave way to cassettes, which soon would be a powerful tool from the Colt, which was now officially called the family. They started producing a ton of tapes and posters under the label. Magic. The artwork on these tapes looks like Lisa Frank on Magic Mushrooms listening to Evangelical Am Radio, the music is clearly geared towards kids. Sort of new wave rapture bubble gum, but with themes of Anti Technology Anti Satan, anti, new world order, and of course anti barcodes. This track called Cathy. Don't go is Jangly. Vapor waves soul shine about the dangers of losing your soul to Satan via the grocery store scanner seriously. Sal Go to the supermarket days. Go The supermarket. Restraints. At the checkout stand. Kathy don't go to the supermarket day. Don't. Come Future ID's no way to pay. Say. SALONE rise. By. That's just. To down there what you always? Honestly despite the pure evil that is behind this colt in this propaganda. Can't help tap in. My toes gives me happy feet. They are easily available on the Internet, but you have been warned. David Koresh might be the perfect example of how cold leaders get themselves. Justice mixed up about being rock rocket roll size as they do about being just regular movies. The prolifically icky baby maker Karesh wrestled away leadership of the branch Davidians some Minor Uzi Center gunplay, litigious, double crossing and a corpse racing contest. But before this, he had actually moved to. Hollywood, to jump. Start a career in music. When this failed. He moved to Waco and continued to play rock and roll music during the power struggle for Mount Carmel. Crash was not just claiming to be the prophet. He was also proving it through his soft rock Christian evangelizing. Starting as a singer Songwriter, who turned the inhibitions all the way down the river of all the way up. Here's his ballot waiting on you. Home. I. You? Moon. Play prayer, sessions and bars, and he would other bands back to the compound to jam into the nights with some pretty sophisticated equipment. At one point, he even had shirts printed up. That said. David Koresh God rocks. There's a clip of him holding a guitar. and He. He says this is my Song Fifteen Guitar. Except, it has like a naked woman in a package on it. Not Quite up to my Bible but I'm pretty sure. There's no paces in the psalms. Here's the most prescient and famous track mad man in Waco It was actually probably written about his rival for the control of the congregation George, Roden who did incidentally kill someone with an axe. It's true that Koresh turned up his flying V set up his band and blasted some rock and roll rebellion in the form of cover of the calls I still believe at the ATF forces occupying his land shortly before they cut the power. Not sure if that was a psychological tactic or they weren't big fans of the call. Famously ATF FBI I. returned the favor by constantly blaring a hideous podge of sound back at the sect in hopes of forcing surrender, the cacophony was a mash up of Tibetan. Chance. Bugle calls Christmas carols. Nancy Sinatra's. These boots are made for walkin telephones, ringing the sounds of rabbits getting killed and. Achey breaky heart, which is pretty much the sound of rabbits getting killed. There's an oddball record called Waco by artist Nick Van Wert where he enlists missions to musically recreate this torture mix tape. Not recommended for your summer. Chill, barbecue, playlist or that girl. You've had an eye on. Of course Kara's music. Really Take off until long past the aftermath of the disastrous raid. It. Now dwells on the Internet naturally. Which ATF guy do you think like? When they're gathering ideas on. which awful sounds they should put together to play at the the branch. Davidians raises his hand and said I've got a tape of some rabbits getting killed. Do you think that would be at a use? ooh, boss! I got achey. Break your heart. I think the AM radio was just really bad in Texas. Another strange chapter in the horror gone viral archives will be the life of Shoko Asahara. His Doomsday cult option Rico. was propelled to international ignominy after the Tokyo subway Saron gas attack, which was trying to set off an apocalypse. The Colt believed in Oshawa Harrah's WEIRDO PROPHECY OF COMING WORLD WAR. Three Armageddon instigated by nuclear attack from the US Asahara used esoteric fringe bits of Hinduism and Buddhism along with snippets of the Book of revelation and Notre Dhamma, says writing to craft a doctrine that can generously be called nonsensical. He claimed to be partially Vishnu and totally Christ, and that he could take away the sense of his followers and keep them alive to upcoming day of reckoning. As looney as this all sounds, he proved to be masterful when his recruitment using Yoga anime riding and mind control techniques, leading his believers to undertake all sorts of violence activity. He had his followers make off brand j pop music for other minions to listen to while they were developing the nerve gas including this song. Seriously, Extreme discipline. After the attack in nineteen ninety, five hush Hara instantly became the world's most famous villain while hiding from law enforcement. He used Russian radio stations to broadcast across Japan. He'd Spread Propaganda Declares Innocence and drop a couple of tunes including this disturbing earworm called Lord deaths counting song. He got. into the. He? named. To. Talk. To to. Own. Gugo. Own? He wrote. Oshawa Hara executed by hanging in two thousand eighteen, but splinter factions of his colt still continue to terrorize today. That Lord deaths counting song is haunting, and it is calming in a very scary way. In the context of that. We're trying to be thorough. Really looking at how colts used music I think it's important to kind of include especially with him using the radio and. Making basically some sort of strange work music for people but man. This guy is was totally creepy. And he was just very powerful in a scary scary way. Yup. Made famous by a recent documentary, the Rajini movement that circled around the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh. Aka Osho gained prominence when they moved from India to a remote town in Oregon causing all sorts of drama. Thousands of red-clad Rajini she us moved into a compound, following the teaching of their Rolls Royce, driving sex guru. What's with these guys and Rolls Royces and being sex googlers? Things turned sour as the group took over. The local government attempted to assassinate a US attorney and added Salmonella to the salad bars at several local buffets, poisoning, seven hundred and fifty people in Nineteen eighty-four. Eventually Osha was deported, but his school of Philosophy is still active today. The group provided vacuous new age meditation music for years on Cassettes, CDs and now online. However at one point prior to moving to the states, the Colt had a pretty groovy Beatles in India rock sound as heard in this track. Oh. You brought me back in the ring by Ashram Music Group. Man, Even still while we've covered hugely evil actions taken by these notable societal misfits. The most troubling aspect of colts is that they are so pervasive in society. For every Marshall Applewhite, whose notoriety propels them to household recognition disdain, there are hundreds of small time proselytizing hacks that are wreaking havoc on the people that fall into their backwoods and basement colts. There's one down the road from me. That preaches that every person has a direct portal to God. That simply needs to be plunged of all earthly seats whatever that means. We skip that booth at trick or treat. Give him a wide berth. We will continue our exploration of the music of Colts next episode by looking into the even stranger and more insular borderline denominations, and do age hives, and of course the Cockney of madness that they produce. When we were researching these always kind go through and look at how much the records cost. Some of these things are ridiculous private press records. If they're good, can often cost a lot of money, but a lot of these aren't good at all. It's just really that memento of having a cult leader or a killer or rapist, record or something. It's very strange. Some of them are good, but those aren't. The ones that are super expensive like the Yaohua albums have been reissued by drake city. They're not that that expensive. It's the really bad ones. I think that I found were impossible to get because of the price. And a lot of them are bootlegged 'cause I think people pull the stuff from the internet or they pull it from old CD's or tapes. So a lot of the stuff has bootlegged. But? Yeah, it's ridiculous. How much people? Pay and want for the music. And some of it is good, but most of it is absolute garbage. Just wait till next episode to. There's going to be some horrendous music there. There's some good stuff out there, too. That's worth hearing, but for the most part. It is very bad because it's not. It's not really supposed to be good. Having its has many purposes, but quality is not one of them. It doesn't really matter it's. It's about getting people to do your bidding or people to feel like they can belong to you. If Utilitarian, it's like a commercial. That is designed with a specific demographic in mind to capture them and bring them in. And we talked about this a little bit, but a lot of these guys just have that that rockstar delusion. It's like they have no business. Playing music at all they just the same reasons that led them to lead a group of people to their own means. To their own ends is the same thing that allows them to think that. They need to have lots of people listening to their music and by rights. Neither of those things should be happening. One person that we do want to acknowledges Mica who has a show on Wfan. You called music of mind control with MICA. Exploration into the musical output of religious cults, new religious movements and individuals of a spiritual inspired divine nature. It is this stuff like? Tenfold all sorts of crazy stuff and he's he's on every Tuesday six to seven eastern, a lot of stuff that we've kind of pulled out we. We kinda found through him, but if you're into the stuff, he does a great job. He'll play the songs and. Talk a little bit about the colts knees. He's real, funny and dry, but his. He's really great and. We definitely pulled a loss for the next two episodes from that radio show, which is awesome, so do need to give him his credit. All right, how about playing some songs? Now we'll do it. I'M GONNA. Go first tonight and I'm GonNa play a song that we talked about earlier. It is called drug song and it is by Dave bixby. To be. Alone. I. Withdraw! Is. God down. My. Law. A. I. saw. Talk. May? Be. are that was Dave Bixby with drug song? which is the opening track on the road to quits? Accardo that we talked about quite a bit. The version that I have came out in two thousand eighteen. It's obviously a reissue and the label that reissued it was called garrison I out of Spain I'm probably not pronouncing that correctly at all but because we talked so much about him and really the song. It's I just thought it would be a good idea for people to hear how good. He really is, and the song is haunting and sad, and it really does describe his. Journey from. Nothing just feeling alone and desolate, and really it's. It's a song that kind of. Helps define the phrase loaner folk. I think this is this, is really it? And again I'm not GonNa talk a whole lot about it because we did earlier a great album all the way through drug songs, the first one, but every song on this is pretty good. Yeah. He's he's incredible. Right I song is called Diva Tae of the Lord. And, it's by Murari band. Whose Dad Laundering. In town. The airport and the malls and the concert at the UNDERGRAD. Think. Never accepting. Opinion. Builders. Blown A. Young! Reports. Standing. George door with half a dozen books and his hey. The died money. Your. Own read that. So. Nothing! And you find this on pain. Thing that honest. Active? You gotta live. Don't you work for me? The camera rolling. Never, checks. Bison! Rising and setting us. there. Gossiping. A. Bad. Birds made here. I may try to convince him. He's wasting. Body northbound the. Changing last. You can find him out there. Getting Getting in. Irving. K. Let's. Talk? A. AW Ah. All Right? That was the Murari bandwith with. Of The Lord. That is a band that is part of a Christian group that runs a farm in Tennessee spiritual farm. And they also have abandoned. This is one of those records that is entirely met to draw people in to the Hari Khorshid or escon beliefs. The whole album kind of sounds like a waffle house song. That you play. They're sort of like advertising the farm. It's about how great the farm is. Come on down to the farm. You know we have the answers to life. That song in particular I kind of like because it sounds like. Hari Krishna Steely Dan so not a ton to say about it, but it's kind of a fun Song I. Think the Woman's voice particulars really strong. The guy's voice, not so much. The whole album was just strange in makes. You feel strange to listen to it. But it's also kind of pleasant so I. Guess that's what they were going after. We talked about this a little bit, but there seems to be kind of. Two sides to this there are records that get put out in huge numbers because they are meant to recruit and in record. There's actually kind of a flyer with a whole bunch of like here's books. You can read. Here's how you contact us. Here's how you can get more records. And everything costs something of course, but don't lick that card. Maybe I should look that guard and it came out in nineteen, seventy, nine on the desire tree label, which was I'm sure the Hari Krishna Label. All Right? My second song is called. Witches will had spy master Wilburn Brett. A. right that was which is will master Wilburn. From nineteen seventy three record grim Warr Guitar that was put out on a private press label called the breath. I have it on a light in the attic. Compilation called. I am the center. The private press New Age music in America Nineteen, fifty to nineteen ninety, which came out two thousand thirteen. So Master Wilburn. is an interesting guy. He basically was a mail order mystic out of California who became known for his strange ads that were you know in the back pages of magazines like fate magazine, or beyond reality, her nonstick news or high times, and it would say stuff like now you can experience transcendental consciousness without spending ten years the bet and monastery, so he offered these kind of psychic meditation courses. That are designed to help people. Traverse time and space and to help with that. He taught them how to listen to his music, because this music was the vehicle to get people to astral travel. His records are amazing to look at their Kinda. HAND-DRAWN PSYCHEDELIC covers. They're just ornate gorgeous, and they always came with very detailed listening instructions written by himself. As guitarist or as an instrumentalist, he was really good. He was classically trained in effect. He taught classical guitar for a while. He had kind of a weird experimental style, and he even made an instrument. which was a guitar with six different types of wood? and. He called his instruments in Pro Guitar and was pro music. And so, it was sort of like guitar and electronic, and he used some drum machines, so he's way ahead of his time, even for do age music. He said he didn't seek to play music, but he wanted to play emotions, and he was a big proponent of frequency. Stuff where he thought certain frequencies could control moods, and he could direct his listener to. Where they needed to go, he believed that the universe is composed of. Vibrant Tori atoms and vibration has movement and movement as time and that. Any creative spiritual breakthrough man must rise above time and his music could help do that so. His records have been reissued. Numero is put out several of them. They are fairly expensive, but but you can still get some of the reissues reasonably through seventy one to seventy seventy, put out seven records and a single. And then all the sudden he. Burned discard everything related to his music. All his musical expirations, and just totally dropped out of the limelight, which for him, he was getting to be a pretty big figure on the burgeoning new age. seen so that was kind of a a big thing. He just kind dropped out and he's kind of interesting. I know I'm kind of going on about. About him even told us at. Maybe I shouldn't do them because I feel like we could do a turntable talk, but maybe not enough stuff, but if you like that song at all and I think it's kind of beautiful myself. I would highly suggest. Go Out and research master wellborn shots, not really a Colt game or say, but he did kind of. Try To. Use His music to. Elevate People's consciousness so. Really interesting. Do Do. You know what he's doing now or is it just kind of? You said might be well off all ready. Numero put out kind of a vague post about him. They did work with him to get permission to do the reissues, even though he seems still pretty wary or cautious about his music. They say he's done very well for himself. What that means I don't know, but he's good. He sat so whatever that means who knows he doesn't do interviews about his music. Really after the seventy seven, there's not not anything about his meditation courses, or music, or instrument or anything like that other than you know referring back to. He talked about in the seventies which he talked a lot back then, so there's a lot to go on all post on the episode post. A few of the album covers the little booklets that come with them. They're just. They're awesome. Much like the father goat stuff. All those are great to. Speaking of Father Yoed our last song for the night is going to be from a y'all wa, thirteen album, and the song is sort of called children's song. Where we? Thank. You. Off. League. Please! ME. Can we. Can. AAH. That was children's Song by Ya Thirteen, and the reason I lead that off by saying it was sort of love titled is because originally when the album was released in nineteen, seventy five. Like most of Yoda albums, there are no titles. It's really one long song, and they just don't the only reason they break it up is because the record stops and they somebody needs to flip it, and so it's really just one long song. But this one is a little bit different. This on plays at the very end of the album, so the end of side two. And it was clearly not recorded at the same time as the rest of the album. On the initial release, there's no credit given to anyone. It always says who played on the album. Suto, say sunflower octavius Jin Isis whomever but. On the issue that I have from two thousand six on swordfish records, there's actually a sheep that comes with it so that you can get some more information, so it talks about who actually wrote that and it was a guy named Hamam h o m and. I'm just GonNa read what they said about it, the Children's Song was sung by the children of the family and side note. They're probably all of us kids. As they represented the next generation. Father said that his wisdom would be for our children and our children's children. Basically the fourth generation we are seeing gifted children being born now they are called. Rainbow Children Indigo Children Miracle Children. Children of the light hi soles knees CETERA. They proceed the new age to help. Bring it in, and who knows that generation might even end up. Being US reincarnated up to our old tricks again. Oh, it was sung by the kids I think the song is. Really Catchy it's pretty and like a lot of the other ones that we talked about or a few of the other ones that we talked about earlier. It's really pretty in a way that. Makes me very uncomfortable. But, it's hard to get it out of your head I think. Seems like in this episode Eddie Song that we kind of like we kind of like, but we kind of feel uncomfortable. Liking it. There's a lot of that going around. Yeah, listening to some of the songs is kind of how I imagine. People who don't like the word moist feel when somebody says it you. Right and I think that song leads perfectly into our. Trivia answers. So I'm going to go ahead and play eight clips again and your job is to tell me the artist on the song and I guess it's probably no secret by now. These are all songs with children singers requires. Track one. Trek to. Go. Last. To. Trick Three Commercial maze. June crude bomb if fly. Logs. Trek Five. Six. Seven. Will Rise. and. Touched the ground. Etrechy. Everything, they go. Do you WANNA. Make tea at the. Right Joe which got. I had a really hard time with the first three of these so. Number One. My guess was something like the white stripes. It sounded similar I. I didn't know what the song was at all. Very close the number. One was the cramps and the song is people ain't no good. Okay okay. Number two I don't even have gas for. It's not something I recognize in anyway. Oh okay. I thought you might known the song that is a nuclear war part to Baio Utah Tango Okay Okay. Got It soon as you started saying it Yep. Good one. Number three, the first thing I came up with was maybe this. Is Charlotte Gainsbourg as a kid singing on Serge Gainsbourg? Album by him, but that's all I have. No, it sounds like it could be that. It's actually Nico off the desert shore record in. It's a song called lip petite Chevalier. Okay. Very Record John Kale produced really weird. Yeah, record I just couldn't place it. The fourth song is one of my favorite songs of all time. It is smog with hit the ground running. Now that song is fantastic. There's anybody out there who hasn't listened to smog hit the ground running. You should I love that song may do. Number five is ecstasy with dear God. Nip Good. One number six is the smiths. I thought it was hanging the DJ It's called panic their titles. I don't know. Close enough number seven Leonard Cohen but I I don't know why I cannot get the title in my head. What's the title of that one last year's man by Leonard Cohen Thank you. and. The last song to me I mean it's a clash song. Career opportunities maybe but I don't know I'm not sure. You got that has the clash with career opportunities they Re recorded it for Sandinista with kids singing out Guiso. Trying to fill out some space on Sandinista apparently, but yes, but you got its clash with career opportunities. Nice, I feel good about finishing that strong, but those first three were rough. Should have mixed it up a little bit, but. There is a lot of songs that used children's singing. Tried not to do like just children. Choirs try to pop songs that US. So really good trying to find some songs kind of like you do pretty good. That was kind of a tough one so. Hopefully everybody out there home did real well onto or got a few fomer maybe heard some stuff that they liked. All right we want to thank our podcast network Pantheon. There's lots of other fantastic music podcast on Pantheon. swing by there and check out some other cool shows. and. Please check us out on. Social media we are on instagram and twitter and our name on both of those is highway. Hi, fi pod. We have a facebook page that is easy to find, and we have an email address. If you'd like to send us any email, our email address is highway podcast at gmail.com. Yeah, definitely reach out We appreciate everybody who who emails US and. Once they how to Hannah. She wrote a review for on I tunes. She's been she's been there since the very beginning so. Thanks for drink in the flavor aid with us. I guess and we we do appreciate. We, do appreciate everybody who listens and please reach out. Email. Send us a message on facebook or instagram or tweet, or whatever, and if you can, if you do have time to write, a review were. I guess that helps other people. Find us, so we appreciate everybody who does that. And please go out and support record stores. Or support artists. There's also streaming shows I think the. As. We're recording this already passed. Put it out I think tomorrow is one of the record store days, which unfortunately is. Very different this year and Probably been hard on a lot of record stores to not have that singular day. That really helps their income, so do what you can to celebrate record store day. Maybe by some records I knew I probably will. All right thanks for listening and we will see you next time. Marketeer here to promote something, we're really excited about our upcoming episode with one of the authors of the new book brother Robert subtitled growing up with Robert Johnson. We will speak with Preston Louder, Bach, who co wrote the book with on UC. Anderson Robert Johnson's half sister, and in our interview he gives us a view of how his book will. Affect Blues History. I think it will certainly add a personal dimension to it that fans of Robert Johnson have lack people. Keep asking me well. You know this book explode the mythology and I really think that those two ports hang side by side. He gives us insights into the mindset of Robert Johnson as he made his way into adulthood. Remember that he grew up with several different last names, and you can only imagine what kind of an identity crisis that would cause with a person, and he gives us a glimpse of why the long held notion of Johnson as a loner was wrong, Robert didn't divulge his family history around beliefs friends and he didn't really go into. His music career with his family, and so he very deliberately kept these lives separate, and yes, we will discuss the devil. We will release our interview in what we see as the truth about this important figure in music history on July, sixth to set the table were re-releasing are two episodes about Robert Johnson and the progenitor of the Blues on June twenty ninth and July second to wet your appetite for this exciting new story line about the great. Robert Johnson catch all of it here on the imbalance, history of rock and roll on the Pantheon podcast, collective or wherever you get your podcasts. By.

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Episode 395 - The Church of Satan

Atheist Nomads

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Episode 395 - The Church of Satan

"Atheist nomads absurd. Three ninety. five. The church of satan podcast. You're about to listen to includes cursing and talking about who has please be advised. Welcome their soda atheist nomads. I am dustin. We're definitely gonna have some news today but we're going to start off with dust enough degree right after this quick That i was on the zach relig- podcast so you can check that out. Got the link in the show. Notes to his podcast. Check it out. We caught up. I was on that show back on episode seven. And they're now on. He's now on to forty two. So yeah check it out and hopefully you'll enjoy that lord might be joining me for the news but we'll see but for now let's get into dust enough degree so we've talked about the rise in development of satan. We've talked about you. Know the satan of the bible. We've talked with lucien greaves from the satanic temple and covered a lot of news stories about the satanic temple we've reference satanic panic and i do want to do a desktop degree series on more on satan and satanism but before we can get into a lot of that we need to get to. What's the original satanists. And that is the church of satan and this will also tie in with a bigger series desktop degree that i'm planning on doing on the rise of these radical groups that are really threatening to destroy democracy and i'm not saying that sadness are part of that problem but the satanic panic in the nineteen eighties definitely was so this is going to be the kind of early primer on this. The church of satan was formerly established april. Thirty nineteen sixty six house in san francisco california by anton levay. He was the high priest of the church of satan until his death in nineteen ninety seven but it had already started before then just not as a formal organization. It all began in the nineteen fifties when he bought a victorian house in the richmond district of san francisco and painted a black then. He started holding friday night. Lectures on the occult at his house. While working through these it allowed him to work out his satanic philosophy and allowed him to put to use weird things that he'd studied over the years. He started doing witches workshops to teach women about seduction and manipulation through clamor and feminine wiles. And nobody knows how many people were actually in these early groups but a lot of the estimates are probably around twenty people. Then in the early nineteen sixties. Lavar started a group called the order of the trapezoid and that gradually developed into the governing of the church of saint By the mid nineteen sixties levay published the satanic bible in the mid nineteen sixties. Beauvais started writing. Levine was writing stuff and disseminating it through the circle. The papers were being called the rainbow sheets and it was a n. The essays were gathered and presented an introduction to satanism and they would be featured in the book of lucifer. There was also around that time a describing magic and how to use that for practice. And and for ritual after auto satan this the first year of the age of satan whose nineteen sixty six with the formal founding levin continued performing these these weekly meetings at his house But they turn into weekly rituals. In february nineteen sixty seven levin performed the satanic marriage of judith chase and journalist john raymond and that got a lot of publicity and he also performed the first ever recorded satanic baptism with his youngest daughter zina which also got a lot of public attention. Celebrities joined the church of satan including. Sammy davis junior and jayne mansfield. The groups spread establishing grotto's in detroit michigan dayton ohio and new york city the church of satan and started showing up in books magazines newspapers documentaries movies. Tv interviews and getting a lot more attention by nineteen seventy seventy-two levay stopped having rituals in his home nineteen seventy-three the michigan ohio and florida groups split off to form their own group which then disbanded the next year. After that members in kentucky indiana split off to form their own group as well the order temple. I say tennis. And then by nineteen seventy-five was done with the grotto's so he got rid of them and then brought him back and then get rid of them again. Then the satanic panic hit we will cover most of the satanic panic later but the actual satanic connection to it was media. Reports of criminal conspiracies within the church of satan. It ended up being enough reports of that that the f. b. i. Had to issue an official report saying there. Were no criminal conspiracies involving this attack church the church of satan zeena who had been the first person baptized in a satanic baptism by this point was high priestess of the church of satan and became the spokesperson Anton by that point was not wanting to be in the media and xena was willing to do that. So she showed up on the phil donahue show nightline entertainment tonight the late show secrets and mysteries. Sally sally jesse raphael show and more and more and more and more she even did some interviews with Televangelist bob larson l. Their members also got involved with media. Tensions trying to refute these allegations of criminal activity. Fortunately that eventually died down When levay died the church was turned over to blanche barton. His partner and carl avai also worked with her to help. Keep that going. Then in then karlovy left the church of satan to create the first attack church in two thousand one Blanche handed over to peter. H gilmore and peggy drama. Who are the current high priest and high priestess and they published the black flame the official magazine of the church of satan and they are still around the reason. Why when you hear about satanism. Now it is the satanic temple. Not the church of satan is because the satanic temple does activism and tries to get in the news. The church of satan doesn't proselytize doesn't do activism and doesn't try to get in the news they don't want to have attention. They want to be left alone on the date of six six six s june. Six two thousand six. The church of satan had its first public ritual satanic mass and forty years. And they did that. At the steve allen theater in the center for inquiry in los angeles marking the fortieth birthday of the church of satan. If you wanted to be a member of the church of satan it costs two hundred and twenty five dollars and you just have to fill out a registration statement and send off your money and then you remember for life if you want to be considered an active member you have too much more detailed application and actually be accepted as a member. Once you've reached become an active member are in the first degree. You can then work your way up to the second degree which is which or warlock you can then work your way up to the third degree which is priests or priests and at that point you're considered clergy and can do weddings and funerals and baptisms. And the like then you can work your way up to match matches stra or magister which is the first degree. but the highest level is the maga- or maga's which is the fifth degree but then of course there's also the council nine which is above that and the high priest and high priestess one big difference between the modern satanic temple and church of satan is the church of satan has got to start with the occult. There's a lot of magic in there. They are it. As an atheist movement they do not believe in a literal satan or any god or gods. They believe that anybody who believes in any supernatural beings is insane they but they do believe in it has something that is real not yet understood by science and that you can manipulate it to manipulate the world around you to use it for things like manipulating people or seducing people the classes for witches to seduce you seduction seduction and the feminine wiles to manipulate people. When you get into that kind of stuff that kinda makes sense that how that would create the satanic panic. You've got a group of people doing magic with witches seducing people in holding black masses. Yeah kinda makes sense how that got there The satanic temple rejects the church of satan as being autocratic and overly superstitious and not doing any useful activism The church of satan doesn't recognize tannock temple saying that it is air pretenders and not true sweetness that only the members of the church of satan are the true safeness which is kinda funny when considering they don't actually believe in a satan they they've view it as satan is the the adversary and the church of satan is the natural adversary to religion into the church. Not that they believe in the same supernatural beings but they believe they are the adversaries therefore church of satan works and the satanic ritual and imagery works for that that anti religious mindset One common criticism. I've heard of the the church of satan is that it is inherently hedonistic Which makes sense with the the magic and wiles and seduction and whatnot. That there'd be a lot of hedonism involved with it It's never been all that big of a movement it other than the satanic panic. It hasn't ever really gotten all that much attention and but it is worth going into that. Yes the church of satan is a thing it is not say tannock temple. That is a different thing. The church of satan as satanic bible the satanic temple does not the church of satan had anton lavar satanic temple has lucien greaves. No one from the church of satan has ever been on this podcast. Several people from the satanic temple have so the next thing next topic. We're going to cover for dustin after degree Hopefully next week if not be probably the week after will be the satanic panic of the nineteen eighty s That is a very interesting topic I'm planning from there to see if i can get lucien. Greaves back on to talk about this attack temple so in the opening i said lauren might be joining us for the news. And you're she is at this point. I think i'm feeling better than you are. Yeah coming down with something. So hopefully i'll be okay in. I still think it's his hopefully that it doesn't make it any easier though. Does it. no no not really all right. So let's get into the news during the impeachment trial. There is a bunch of religious stuff in that. Because that belongs they're gonna to guess. Which side did most of that. The league you have the republican was the actual republicans or was it the defense. Actually it was mostly the democrats. Yep so we need to have a stern talk with them. Oh yeah yeah so all right. So we'll start off with one of trump's lawyers showing he's an orthodox jew david showing okay. Last week i include a story and then decided to drop it because he had put in for getting the trial. Not have it on saturday. Because he's an orthodox jew couldn't work on the sabbath and so they did put it in on the schedule to have. They did accept that request from him and take saturday off the schedule and then after talking over the team they all decided now they can go on saturday without him so he put in a letter asking them to drop that okay. That's odd. Yeah and then while he was when he was he was doing his his parts of it during the trial. He didn't have anything on his head. Yeah normal stuff. Jewish men have. He skipped all that every time. He took a drink of water. He put his hand over the back of his head. See keep every single time as it just habit and what he ended up saying was he didn't wear a kipah because he was afraid it might offend. Somebody might i could see. Maybe afraid that he'd be that there'd be prejudiced against him. Well if you if you think about it here in orthodox jew fighting on behalf of donald trump tried to keep support from basically nazis in the senate. Yeah so don't want to offend. The nazis shouldn't have been there in. The first place explains why the team was like we don't need you. We'll we'll just go on saturday. He's like actually. I still want to get paid so never mind. But there is this thing that a lot of of a lot of jews especially the jews. The every time are eating or drinking. They recite some blessing mentioning. God which means her head must be covered whenever saying god's name oh so he didn't have anything on his head covering it so he just use his hand for that. I can see that just becoming force of habit now if we want to talk about what religion getting brought into that okay he asked for the sabbath awe as a former adventists. That's something. I fully understand gap. You believe it'd be wrong to be working that day so you try to see if he can get some accommodation to not have to work that day. Okay that's fine. He asked for that in advance and then withdrew it when seemed like it wasn't going to be necessary. And then he tried to go as normal as possible which okay if he felt like he needed to have his head covered. If if you feel like you can't offend people by being yourself. That sucks for that. He was definitely but also got paid and and also he didn't. He didn't push that onto other people. He just decided not gonna bother with that this time and putting his head hand on the back of his head every time we take a drink of water big whoop. That didn't involve anybody else. Yeah i did see some people come into this so superstition silly but Whatever but yeah. And i do want to say a one reason why we were talking about this. Enough is because or this much is because i think it's important to talk about okay. Normally this is what people think. It'd be kind of the silly religious stuff. It didn't harm anybody right and infant anybody. It didn't didn't involve anybody else. Okay so what's next dot dot dot. I'm going to start saying abc's on wednesday of last week. The democratic house managers were caught in the middle of the hallways huddling together for prayers. It pisses me right off. I have a lot of built up rage about that. Highschool man getting around in those little hallways freaking youth. Group was doing prayers sometimes. They purposefully made it so that they were taking up the entire hallway. So you couldn't pass. Yeah so i had a baritone saxophone which is basically a battering ram battering ram. So i threw him on a number of occasions. So yeah that pisses me off. So that started with an from your your stories from high school mormons and catholics. Battling yeah well. This was started by representative. Madeleine dean of pennsylvania who told jamie raskin who is one of the head people in the free thought caucus who does identify as a humanist and and jewish. Yeah so she's talking to him about this. This prayer that she'd learned from her uncle who is a catholic priest for fifty years so after she shared that with him they called the group together to huddle together for her to say they. God grant success to the work of our hands. Okay she really have to waste everybody's time with that. Waste everybody's time and get the side that's done better with maintaining social distancing to huddle together in a hallway. Yeah i bet there was immediate regret with raskin. Yeah yeah that's it. Oh god well. How did i get dragged into this. Well okay there's more Put a pin in that one. Eric sell well Reference the bible several times while talking about the police officers have defended the capital noting that he comes from a law enforcement family and said quote in many law enforcement families we pray for our loved ones and we know the scripture of by matthew five nine blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called the children of god in the video. You will see how blessed we were on that hellish day. We had a peacekeeper like officer. Hodges protecting our lives our staff's lives and the capital and the certification process. Okay i n okay so yes that is pulling in religion but could be a lot worse than that right yeah. That's just people drawing from their life experiences to make a point he didn't call for everybody to pray or anything wrong dope so but this is this is the democrats is the democrat. Yeah they did not talk about the religion of the mob. I roll with their prayers in the house and senate chambers and crosses and all of the religious shouting and religious signs. You could say it was the white elephant in the room. Yeah so they were trying to out. Jesus the mob to try to win over as many of the white christians on the republican side that they could get fucked them on the stoop. So low yeah. Trump's team didn't talk much about religious stuff in any of the things they were talking about below here it is relevant but they would probably want to distance themselves as much as possible from that except for when they were trying to fend one of trump's tweets from that day. Oh and it actually wasn't even an a tweet from trump it was a re tweet and it refers to calvary. When you do this will bring in the calvary as in the crucifixion of christ. What oh that's not ovary calories guys on horses the backup the different spelling of miss. It has a misspelling. Fuck tired of bringing in the heavily armed troops. Yeah okay calvary. not christ on calvary. My gosh yeah okay. So then saying quote. This was from. Show the ju- on trump's orthodox jew on trump's team the tweeter promised to bring the calvary a public display of christ's crucifixion a central symbol of christian faith with her to the president's speech symbol of faith love and peace except for as a typo. Ya everybody knows it. But i guess that gives you deniability except what it actually said was. The calvary is coming mr president. You could hear the trumpets in your head can't you. I mean you know what that means is because people don't know how to spell doesn't mean that that should be a free free defense for his actions sweat and it actually isn't even different spelling. It's a difference in capitalization and just trying to say no. This isn't this isn't the normal meaning of the word. This is this different meaning of the word. Yeah well i it's basically it depends on what the meaning of is is. Oh right yeah all over again but instead of being about a blowjob it's about an armed mob trying to take over the capital. Oh hi lives have progressed. yeah There was a lot more. It was raskin. Even 'cause i just say to put a opinion that one jamie raskin did say coach. One line always stuck with me from the book of exodus as both beautiful and haunting even as a kid. After i asked what the words meant thou shall not follow a multitude to do evil. Neka mob yeah. Okay now honestly. That's the kind of polling in a line from scripture that still has resonated with you through your al`thood that i can totally understand. Yeah that's yeah 'cause if anybody had said something similar with their own religion you're just you're just solidifying your point of view you're not spreading a message so yeah the most of this was ambiguous talk and since oh and then there was one after the vote was done. Swallow was asked by. Msnbc to explain why they didn't call witnesses and his answer was we could have called god herself in the republicans weren't going to be willing to convict trump. So we're proud of the case. We put forward. No ice god curse. Yeah that was that. I like that. Yep dodd could literally be sitting there. And say i saw him do it and they wouldn't convict because they will because they explain they'll let him off on a technicality so it doesn't matter we through you're guilty or not if when it comes to a technicality. Now bring on the criminal court. Because they've made it clear. Mitch mcconnell made it clear that trump is can be tried in criminal courts for what he did while president. Everybody admitted what he he was guilty. Yeah most admitted he was guilty cruising. Holly didn't look those guys but there co conspirators. Say can't admit he's guilty or else they'd be admitting they're guilty as well i. I don't understand how the jury thing is just. It's it's very mind boggling. In this situation but it's gone it's passed. It is worth noting that with the fifty seven forty three final vote. Yes that was ten votes shy of a conviction that is not the highest vote margin that a impeachment trial has ever had andrew johnson His impeachment failed by one vote to this was the most bipartisan impeachment. Vote trial vote ever which is part of the problem so andrew. Johnson bipartisan bipartisan. Yes because they got quite a few republicans assists seven. Republicans voted with all fifty democrats But andrew johnson's it was. There weren't very many democrats in the senate at that point because there's right after the civil war All but i think it was one or two. Republicans voted to convict him. And that wasn't enough. If they'd all voted to convict him he would've been convicted and whatnot. A couple said no. This is just a political. You're just trying to get rid of them. Because you don't like him because they'd been he'd been doing everything. Congress passed an congress's overriding every single veto and so they decided just to get rid of him. Yeah you think. Our government is shit and that failed. We we have history people we have we have histories bill clinton. His was basically party line and failed. The last trump impeachment trial was one. Republican voting with the democrats right failed. This one was seven. Republicans voting with the democrats. That was big. Yeah absolutely big and it will be. I think in history the end result of that will be that impeachments not really possible well. Convicting a president in the senate is not really possible. Bright and that this was as close as come to a religiously ever gonna get ya hopefully in the future. We won't have such a loyalty issue within the parties. Moving on cow. The american atheists being joined by americans united for the separation of church and state are suing the department of education. This ensued in a while. Well they get sued all the time. They haven't been sued by atheist specifically and a couple years. Yeah it's been it's been a little while. Yeah so this is is based on a last minute. Trump administration policy change that they are trying to get overturned and this rule forces universities to fund religious student groups even if they discriminate against nonreligious or. Lgbtq students well that sucks The interestingly prior to this there was no rule. Yeah universities are doing anyway. Some did some states had rules. That didn't allow universities have campus groups that discriminated against possible members Other states didn't have those rules but some universities have policies. Yeah but not all did. This was a policy that was going to protect that it was the board it was going to it was basically saying the fellowship of christian athletes can be anti-gay and must be funded by the school. Yeah i thought that was the whole point of having dot giving funding to religious clubs and organizations yup. Because then you fall into this kind of crap. Yeah yeah So the the lawsuit is just wanting to get this rule stricken barely been in effect. Just get rid of it. But that doesn't solve the problem. No we need stronger rules. We need to make sure that public universe. There's no such thing as a public university. Everybody pays for them. Okay so this is where it gets really tricky. Yes there are public universities. Even though they are they are owned. And at least in part funded by the state. They aren't particularly cheaper any more than private universities in most states. Yeah but they all get federal funding if they can do pell grants and federal student loans. That is federal funding. That has so far. Only really been a stickler when it comes to sports titled ten. It always comes down to frigging sports when universities do realize that. We're trying to teach people stuff here right. That's why my my alma. Mata wallow now while while university had a official men's volleyball team that played almost exclusively club teams. Yeah because washington state university does not have an official men's volleyball team. They have an official women's volleyball team. Yeah and there's a men's volleyball club. Yeah and if so. That ruling applies to private schools if they want to be able to have access to federal financial aid for their students. Which if you don't accept that you better have a really good endowment or everybody accepts that so there's clearly the ability to put strings on that and it wouldn't be particularly unreasonable to put something similar in effect that you can't discriminate now. This is where it would never actually work putting an an actual rule that you can't discriminate if you get federal funding because every christian school wants the ability to discriminate. Yeah and there's no way you'd be able to get enough senators. Sign off on that. Yeah yeah they all they all come from those universities for the most part. So yeah. you're going to stick stick with your alma mater right. Although mater alma mata mata whatever mater. I do not have one. So i don't know yeah it's yeah anyway so it's a lot more clear cut when it comes to primary and secondary schools. Yeah yeah where you well. They used to be clear-cut until we got all these charter schools. Yeah we yeah working on it. He's working on it. We've got a war going to be watching the department of education very closely for the next year. Yeah and like our local charter. School has despite of the official public schools. Being closed doing distance-learning our little local charter school down. The street has been debut december. Yeah they've been open this whole time. Yep dirty grubby. Little kids running around outside with only half of the masks. Yeah yeah taxpayer-funded that they give special attention to my corgi. Love it when we go for walks there. They do do some social distancing though they play with a six foot noodles and hula hoops. Nice chevrolet spaced out evenly. Well i it's a small enough school that it's so white. You know that if they had a covert outbreak the health district shut them down. You'd think but. I haven't had one on valentine's day. Fourteen joe biden. Signed an executive order reestablishing the white house office of faith based neighborhood partnerships so that got re establishing yes was not and george w bush's. Yes george w bush. I created it. Barack obama double down on it. Donald trump ignored it and then reestablished it as the faith and opportunity initiative when he put it under the control of pentecostal mega church. Pastor paula white. No god paula white via face an opportunity initiative right which didn't really do anything now Even money a little bit and a little bit i. It really didn't do much. I was among the many things that trump tried to tear down. Apparently the office is being called within the biden administration the partnerships office if it was the government trying to get churches to pony up for a community service. That'd be great but that's not what this is a lot of it actually is. I don't know we'll see sounds to me like an excuse to fund faith edition community services with government federal government money. Yes thou want the opposite of that. Yes to play. Devil's advocate on something that i think is ridiculous. Needs to be done away with this. That's what atheists lift for. Our society is fractured. Much of the social safety. Net is missing and has been left to churches. Preschools are mostly run by churches and other faith based organizations. Yeah including the ymca homeless care yup food which homeless shelters we run into that with homeless shelters in boise where the city has lost court cases about its rules. That require you to go to a church. Run homeless shelter or jail. Yeah hospitals. Yeah healthcare like you look at huge swaths of society. That is being run by these faith based organizations if you want to be able to shape the programs. They're running for the community. You need to have a way of providing some incentive for that shaping. God knows city. Governments can't afford to do it on their own dope. Now i would love for us to rebuild society in a way where faith based community service isn't a necessary thing but that would require a lot of work. Dan socialist that's churches four. Yes same saying. I would love to see. The government run homeless shelters not churches in hospitals instead of churches. Preschools yup just bring preschools in charter schools. All of that back under the school district. Yeah someday maybe but until then you gotta work with what you what you have okay. Fair enough. devils are devil's advocate. Yeah i was having such a terrible day. I did not i. I miss that story completely. Oh that one was a couple of days ago. How valentine's day oh yes. that was. that was valentine's day. I caught it full day. I caught it before a few days before that. Oh when it was still talking about it. He was expected to sign it and he has now signed it. Okay and fortunately. That article was updated with the date that he signed it. You gotta love that in pennsylvania. State senator bryan. Sems has been one of the if not the most openly gay an openly atheist person in an elected office in this country all right and he has decided to run. he is a a state representative in pennsylvania He has been serving in his state. Senate since two thousand twelve okay and is now running for lieutenant governor great. This is the one that came under fire posting pictures with his boyfriend house earlier today. I i saw that somewhere. I don't know well. A gay man in america if he has pictures of him with your friend s going to come under fire of course the during one one notable Speech he gave on in the pennsylvania state senate was in twenty sixteen when they were debating a twenty week abortion ban. He said quote each of us put her hand on the bible and sword up all the constitution. We did not place our hands on the constitution and swear to uphold the bible No if everybody realized that. If only i wouldn't be so pissed off about them. Swearing on the bible but there are many many many people who are are running and who feel like would they swear on the bible. That's who their loyalty belongs to all right. Well we've got a blue law to talk about what i think. The last one we covered was when utah last waxing their alcohol laws. Yeah i know we had one. We covered quite a few years ago. When idaho allowed sunday morning. Alcohol sales says and it was the liquor stores to sell alcohol. Sunday's restaurants were still able to before that still need your professional But the Eskimo county florida is working on a very similar change in rules because florida is one of those states where every county can do. Whatever the hell they want. Okay oh god that's that's fun. We live in one of those states. Yeah it's a mess. Yeah and They much like idaho did before few years ago didn't allow alcohol sales release liquor sales on sundays so mary. You could probably get a bloody mary in a restaurant or bar. But you can't buy it from a liquor store but true you need the vodka. If you need one. A buddy. Mary on sunday morning. You need to have a bloody mary religion up to have a leading mary or a motza on sunday morning project. Go you can get a grocery store here but can't get vodka so that works So the the the current rule has been in place since nineteen eighty nine which seems awfully recent for blue law to be put in place. Yeah well But it allows weird weird laws put in in the eighties. It allows alcohol to be sold from six. Am to two thirty am except for sunday and the reason for that. Ordinance is to not distract people from going to church on sunday morning and they're meeting well by the time this episode actually gets out. We'll have already met that day So that should be going away soon. And i can say from living in a state where the rules have been but are variable up hazard. Yeah like that. Most recent big change only applied to the state. Run liquor stores right because we still have those and the state run liquor. Stores just didn't until noon on sunday and now they can open nine or ten. yeah So if you forgot you needed to get vodka for bloody. Marys you can go get vodka for your bloody mary. That's right needs her medicine But in idaho if you go to the eastern side of the state there are dry counties. Yeah s was something. I found very strange to discover. Because when i growing up in oregon i head which they have loosened up on on liquor would i had seen in oregon and washington was always that the state owns liquor in the state is going to get their goddamn money. So they don't give that freedom to local jurisdictions. Yeah and then it gets an idaho. It's like the state wants their goddamn money. Unless you're a mormons. There should be trying to take money from the mormons to yeah. They shed Alcoholism is a problem. Meanwhile they're trying to ban marijuana while at the same time making it legal so yep but not touching tobacco or alcohol. Oh god is such a such a mess. It's worse than trying to ban marijuana. They're trying to make it unconstitutional to even try to legalize marijuana or any other psychoactive drug. Yeah including medication potentially potentially depending on how poorly finally being written. Oh you know. These guys aren't the most literate we've talked previously about the mormon church's instant peak advisors their their financial fund investment. The church owned investment fund. Oh yeah it. The initial reporting on the give the mormon church's basement day traders right. Yeah you know. They're hundred billion dollar stock portfolio That i started getting reported a couple years ago If even that long ago with Leaks it was going onto mormonleaks website and after some investigations that the government did based on those leaks. It was figured out that. Oh yeah this is a financial institution financial institutions after you filings with the securities and exchange commission every year and so they have now started doing those filings which shows that the year twenty twenty they in one particular fund their stock portfolio part of it made six point two billion dollars which left their stock fund at forty four billion total while now. This isn't the total of their no. That's the hundred thou- content billion right It was a hundred billion in twenty nineteen. It is now had two years to continue to grow The the rest of their their portfolio is land and probably gold and who knows what else they gain six hundred fifty million dollars off of amazon without buying additional shares. Just from from growth or at least not buying much tip. if there's a pandemic yeah invest in services such as amazon. They had about a million dollars in tusla stock. At the start of two thousand twenty. They ended the year with three hundred thirty million dollars. Noise scared. that's a lot of money. That's how he hasn't even done anything. That's how elon. Musk went from being one of the richest people in the world to the richest jumping from twenty billion to over two hundred billion dollars. Yeah yeah yeah so. That's so much money. Fake money very clear. These are fake. Money's now the thing that until someone decides to try and sell out and destroy the economy. That's all fake money. Which is my big concern with the mormons holding onto this much in stocks. Because you're then you're dealing with an organization not only believes that the world is coming to an end but as betting on it. Yes they are blue 'cause it they are literally betting on the world coming to an end and they believe that when things start to go bad everything like stock markets are going to dry up so you know their plan is when it starts getting bad enough. There's that certain point where you hit sell all dumped forty four billion dollars in stocks that would crash the global economy. I have affirmed believing that no business should have the ability to crash the global economy or even the national economy and granted. That's kind of a stupid thing to say because if you crash the us economy you crash the global economy. That's the global economy. No yeah you'd end the world by thinking that the world is going to end and that's stupid terrifying. And that's why. I don't think that's why terrifies me win. And the world evangelical are running the government. Because you know they're not planning for twenty years in the future. It's all going to happen within their lifetime and you know they're supporting israel and trying to arm israel to the teeth because they want a war in the middle east frigging backwards. They want armageddon to happen. Yeah that's the only reason why. White supremacist evangelicals back. Israel certainly not a race issue. Nazis art fans of jews. But they do want to see them die in armageddon and so they will back israel an attack. Anybody who doesn't claim that anybody who doesn't pack. It's but yeah. The mormon church should not have sufficient power to tank the economy. And if you think it's kind of us centric to say that if you take the us economy tank the global economy. That's if you take the european economy you're gonna tank the global economy. Yeah china nearly tanked the global economy. Was it two years ago a year ago. Not long ago. China had some some. They almost put the whole world in a recession shortly after the pandemic started at shortly before it was like that was not remember. The twenty nineteen. The chinese economy shrunk a little bit and A little bit and it almost destroyed everything. Yeah yeah that sounds about right. And then trump pass got his tax cut passed and everything rebounded allocating the plan yup for an update on a story from december. That i talked to talk with jason about lou. Jane al hathloul was to recap her story. She was a is a feminist activist in saudi arabia. She was one of the leaders in the may twenty eighteen driving protest right right and then was arrested literally a couple weeks before the women driving in saudi arabia ban was lifted and rather than her being released. She kept getting passed around back and forth through courts until they all finally decided they didn't have jurisdiction but the terrorism court did the terrorism court convicted. Her that's bullshit but she sued right and the judge decided to couch her time served and forgive the rest yes. Hey so she has been released. Okay well at least she has been released and she is still appealing the conviction because that's still on her record. If that's principal at that point you convicted me on something that was literally legal two weeks later just under under a terrorism court. I hardly under saudi counterterrorism law. Protesting against the government is terrorism. God and surprised the. Us didn't throw that one in with the patriot act. That would have risked the whole thing being thrown out in court to easily. Yeah well and in spain. The federation of jewish communities in spain has been calling on the hate crimes public prosecutor to take a look into some crazy nazi stuff going on in spain. Okay because a lot of that stuff has been thoroughly ignored. Yes sir just in the us. In particular they are referencing. A demonstration that was held in honor of division abdul the blue division which was a volunteer military unit sent by spanish dictator francisco franco to adolf hitler invaded the soviet union So spain's old fascist dictator helping his patron invade the communists. Yeah and they're still worshiping them. Heroes in some places there marching along doing the nazi salute. Yeah that's not. That's just straight up dash straight up nazi. Yeah the spanish word for nazi probably It's always just. They're all nazis sucks. Hopefully they they have a realization that that's a problem yep feedback. This is a good one from dude man via discord. And yes you can find us on discord at atheist. 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Leo you're not gonna talk about here that's fraley 'cause there's plenty of actually church-state separation issues or or human rights violations worthy of covering You don't need to talk about just the pure political stuff. There are political podcast. Talk about that I know for a theus podcasts. They took the final merging of evangelism in the in the republican party to basically make politics and atheist issue and i don't necessarily begrudged podcasts. That have done that. I've just chosen to keep on topic. did not include that as a topic. Well in fact it was something that in two thousand seventeen. We talked about quite a bit on. Doesn't even make sense to keep doing the show when there are so many so much worse stuff getting done and the answer was yes. We still need to do it because somebody's still looking at the stuff that that this still matters. Even if it's not the most important it's still really matters and needs to be talked about. Yeah and so. 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GSMC Weird News Podcast Episode 316: Weird Bands

GSMC Weird News Podcast

1:02:42 hr | 3 months ago

GSMC Weird News Podcast Episode 316: Weird Bands

"Is weird odd strange or just plain. Bizarre is really your cup. Then the golden state media concepts weird news. Podcast will give you that fix. Can't believe it will listen for yourself as we delivered his strangest news. You'd deathly you won't find on cnn. Or it's the golden state media concepts weird news. Podcast hello and welcome to the sim see weird news. Podcast brought to the gmc podcast network. I'm your host choline and let's just talk about some weird stuff. So i was thinking about bands the other day and i was like you know what would be interesting. The weirdest bands that have ever existed and that exist now. So let's talk about some weird bands that have existed and actually exists now. So let's start off with okay a lot of these names. I'm going to butcher but bear with me so Stall ago also known as ghoul ago. So it's s. t. a. l. a. g. g. h. or g. u. l. a. g. g. h. So they seem to have two names and this consisted of band members from dutch in belgium. So it was kind of like a mishmash of people And they were a black metal band now. I love me some metal. I really love me some metal but this sounds like a band i would not be into and this is why they used to use actual mental patients in their music so on three of their albums. They actually used mental patients in these albums. Were between two thousand two and two thousand seven now. One of their members worked at a mental hospital like they were somebody who worked there and they somehow got permission. Which i i don't know but they somehow got permission to use some of the patients in their stuff. Which either this mental hospital is absolutely terrible or they were doing it and just said they got permission. You know kind of thing. But that's what they did. They use these poor mental hospital patients in their music and they said they did this because they wanted act. Schule dark despair in the music. Which i think this is absolutely horrifying. This is terrible now. I love metals. Like i've said before. I love all types of metal and the one thing that bothers me with metal and i actually won't listen to their music even if i'm not a fan of it is the people that do dumb stuff like this. So i'm i don't know i feel like i've met a good amount of metal musicians going to concerts and whatnot but i am. They've always been very sweet very kind. And i've never met one. That was not so. I like to stick with people who are very sweet. Very kind you know in real life and that actually goes for a huge portion of metal bands so these are just some that are the exception. I guess they're not all middle. I promise but I thought i'd just throw that in there. Just who are not thinking. Oh middle bands are terrible. They're not most of them are not terrible. Most of them are really nice people. They just like really heavy music. So let's move onto a punk metal band from seattle now. This band is called an m. e. so just the letters n m an e. So they were one of the first extreme metal bands in the us. I put air quotes around extreme metal. You can't see it. But i'm telling you i did. Not only their music. Extreme but the frontman kurt. Stroup ing. it's s. t. r. u. e. b. i. n. g. But kurtz drooping was actually convicted of murder in nineteen eighty-six because hold onto your lunch kids. He chopped his mother into pieces with a hatchet which is absolutely terrible. And oh i can't. It's so terrible. But after he was released surprise he was released in the first place. The band actually got back together and continued to do music for a while but he ended up taking his own life in two thousand and five. So i'm not sure. I couldn't find exact. Excuse me exact dates for this. But i'm not sure when he was released and came back but they did end and they're no longer thing and this is probably for the best once again. this is a metal band that just. They're making bad names for their music genre. Which is absolutely just horrifying. Let's move on to radio werewolf now. This one is a doozy. So during the height of the satanic period hysteria that was in like around the mid eighties in america They were considered the most dangerous band in the world now. This was due to the notoriety of their vocalist zena. Shrek script C. s. c. h. r. e. k. I don't know maybe shrek but this is because xena was the daughter of anton levay now. If you don't know who anton avai is. He was actually the founder of the church of satan. I also think he wrote the lake saito satanic bible as well or something like that. I've done some research into him. His whole thing's really interesting if you want to hear podcast about it tweet me at. Gmc underscore weird news. But let's continue with this. He so he's the founder of this and so in the music they actually use nazi imagery necrophilia. Serial killers and mysterious code rituals. I don't know if it was just in their music. Allies probably a mixture of in their music and also music videos. So i do believe people thought they were very dangerous. because it was really pushing the satanic church I don't think they're doing anything bad. I don't know you know. Let them do their thing but anyway they saw the big reason that this band was so big was because Xena was the daughter of anton lefay and it was a big thing. Then this is really this was when you know the santana church was really coming into the media and like they like i said earlier it was called satanic or they sit tanic panic said period. I'm so sorry. But it was during the panic panic hysteria which was like i said to in the mid eighties in america. So this really. I think was what was kind of pushing them to the forefront and i do think they were probably using a lot of this material not to promote the satanic church but i think they were using it to really kind of just shock. I think what they were after was a shock value. I couldn't find anything that said anything about. Actual you know killings or murders or whatever that was associated to radio werewolf. But i really thought that you know. I thought that they deserve a spot on this list because it is very strange that the daughter of somebody so big makes a band and then just goes full force into the ridiculous with their imagery in their music. I i don't know once again. This is just giving a bad name to music. I understand using music videos and stuff like that as shock value and that's actually really popular nowadays in music videos and also in Just music in general. I actually am an award winning. Music video director. I know it sounds like i'm tuned my own horn but i am an award winning music video director. I've directed a good few music videos. And i i try not to really go for shock value. Even if i do go i shock value. It's like a second of something and not really the whole music video because the shock value really pulls people in a does and it's a good selling point but at the same time. I feel like you can really overdue it. And then you turn into this band or you turn the band that you're doing the music video for in do just shock value in. That's all the people are looking for at that point. Now i'm going to take a quick break when we come back. We will continue with some more weird bands that exist and have existed this show built around the women of mma from the ufc to the extreme cage fighting. We got the fights. Cover the golden state media. Concepts women's may podcast. The latest news of upcoming twice discussions of previous matches join us as we talked to in about the biggest names. Women's mixed martial arts past present and future. When it's the women's fight game you know were to listen to the golden state media. Concept's women's mma podcast. Hello and welcome back to the gmc weird news podcast now before the break. We were talking about weird bands that have existed I believe the ones that i talked about. Don't exist now but let's move on to some more so let's talk about father yod and ya hawas thirteen so this kind of brings us back to a podcast or two ago where we were talking about strange cults now father yod did not make the cut in that one but he'll make the cut in this. One yard was the founder of the source movement. Which was like a spiritual commune slash colt like. It was a cult. That was big in hollywood in the early seventies now yod used his like all the earnings that he had gotten from this colt and actually put them all into a giant mansion in the hollywood hills so basically he used all the earnings that he got from this cold probably offerings and whatnot and he used that by this mansion which she filled with hippies and musicians where they played all day and they did drugs all day. That was pretty much it. I thought it was really interesting that there was actually like a full-blown co co leader. Who had a band now. Let's move on to some more in this strange region. So let's talk about zoll tar solaar. Excuse me zo lar- x. The zoeller ex came about in the mid seventies and they were a mixture between glam and punk rock. Now these guys let me tell you. They dressed like silver suited and tan. Antenna headed space surfers. This is real and they talked in their own alien language. Now this lake this band baffled. Hollywood so they were in hollywood and people were just intrigued and confused and like what is this. If i was in that time and i saw this i would be like. I need to listen because what is and they were like really big because of how strange they were once again. It's that like tactic of being a lot and using weird imagery and your music because brings people in now they were big and stuff until they just vanished in a puff of green smoke in nineteen eighty one so they just kind of then they were just gone. Yeah so that's the thing. I actually didn't listen to theirs. But i think i'll go back and actually listen to their music. I'm very curious but these next two. I definitely listen to their music. Because i was so confused. So let's talk about the all sports band so there was a sound engineer named tracy coats who came up with this weird idea. He was like what if we made a hetero sports vase. Sports based village people so we wanted to make a just a straits village. People that were all that was all about sports and the results of that idea was the all sports band now. They do kind of sound like the village people like. I said i did listen to them. Some of the ones in the beginning. I didn't listen to just because of their stories. And i didn't wanna you know. It was just kind of a weird area but the all sports band had a boxing drummer a football and baseball player for guitar and bass and then a race car driver on keyboard and a karate kicking singer now. Obviously that didn't go anywhere. Because i never heard of this and pretty much. Anybody that i asked had never heard of the all-sports band but they really do sing about you. Know wanting oh lady and you want a strong man and you know and stuff. It's a really strange mixture of music and like the sound of the village people. It's really weird. I don't know if it really displays hetero but that's the thing let's move on to the next one now. This one is my favorite or one of my absolute favorites. That i found so. This is katya K. ni-nice c. A n i n us now. They are death grind band. I did listen to them. They're definitely death grind But they started the band in like started making music in two thousand and three now. The vocalists are basil or and budgie. Now they have cute names me wrong because they are two female pit bulls. I'm not kidding. You the vocalist of death. Grind band are female pit bulls. Now this is the greatest idea i've ever heard and i listened to them and it's just death grind music with dogs barking and i love everything about it. It's just so funny. But so they people credit this guy. Dawn lila kerr liker l. i. l. k. e. r. of a band called nuclear assault as the originator. They they say he's the originator of the of this whole idea of the dogs being vocalists and that's because he ended up sending out a joke demo to a bunch of different labels with his dogs vocals on it and came canine s or whatever like took it to another level and made a whole band around it now. This is the greatest thing i've ever heard. I will definitely have to post this on the twitter and the facebook because it is so great and so weird. I'll try and post some of the weirder ones on facebook so you guy in the twitter at gmc underscore. We'd news and facebook. Gmc weird news. I just i have to because they are so interesting to listen do but unfortunately the band split up after the sad passing of both of the dogs. Now this is sadness. This is super said. We don't deserve dogs. They're incredible. I love dogs. I got two dogs and they're actually hanging out right next to me right now but This is one of the coolest things i've ever heard. Let's just talk about that. This is one of the coolest things i've ever heard. It's just so weird and so like it's a lot if you're if you've never heard death grind before it might be like way too much for you. I've heard death grind before. It's not my favorite genre but i do listen to one or two songs on occasion But this is the greatest thing literally. It's just dogs barking over music. And i love everything about that. I don't know if it's just the fact that i love dogs and i love animals. Altogether is why. I love it so much but i don't know someone should bring this back maybe not with the death grind. But someone should like do this because it is so fan tastic. I don't know i love it. I'm definitely going to post it on at the twitter at gmc underscore weird news and also on the facebook. Gmc weird news because you guys have to listen to this. It is so fun. It's just so weird but it's so fun now before it keep talking about dogs. Let's take a quick break and when we come back we'll talk about some more weird bands. This is your ultimate stop for everything. Sports the golden state media concepts or podcast. Should i say more from the nfl melby. The nba mma. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen Hello and welcome back to the gmc. Weird news podcast now. Before the break we were talking about weird bands that have existed and some that do exist today now. I've been talking mostly about once that have existed. But i will talk about more. That exists now in a little bit. But let's bring it on over to impaled northern moon fast now. They are an acoustic black metal band now. I listened to them because i was very curious. And man it. Is it something So impaled northern moon fest. They started off as an offshoot of okay. I can't say the name of this band because it is unnecessarily crude and both words are just not words. That i should say at all or anyone should say so. We'll call them a see now. Apparently they were an offshoot of a ac and they end according to. I'm not sure who. But somebody so. This is kind of a a rumored fact but they went full acoustic to avoid disrupting someone. Who's who was slumbering nearby. Now i don't know if that's true but that's kind of what's all out there when you're talking about this pant or looking up this band Now they this is like i said in acoustic black metal band and it exam it features a solo acoustic guitar a knee slapping percussion and a semi screaming vocalist. That you can't understand a word. He says now a lotta times when people listen to music. That's got a lot of screaming and it. They can't understand. I listen to a lot of music. That has screaming in it. So i'm pretty. I guess i can. I can understand a majority of what they're saying. But i could not understand a word and i don't even wanna call like screaming. It was like a weird guttural talking screaming like it was really strange. This is probably one of the strangest things i've heard. I've seen metal bands do acoustic of their songs. And usually it's pretty good and they really changed it towards the acoustic style and this is really like they took the metal singing from like an actual full metal album and then took the singing out and put it over some acoustic guitar and someone. That's just slapping their knee. Now that's a the. I tried to kind of recreate the actual sound of the song that i heard because that was like the beginning of the song was just this. Like almost galloping sound that was drummed on the knee but yeah it's really strange. Let's move on so this one is so cool. I'm definitely gonna post a video of these guys because this is probably one of the coolest things that i saw. This band is called compressor head. They are an instrumental robot band. Now when you're thinking instrumental robot band you're thinking like synthesizers and stuff but each member they were actually built from recycled metal between two thousand seven and two thousand twelve and they play actual instruments which is so cool. I saw a video of this and it was so cool. Whoever made these is just so smart but they are a cover band and they cover mostly motorhead. Acdc pantera and the ramones. And they're they're good. I mean it's really cool. There are four piece band and actually they had recently started a kickstarter to raise enough money to build a vocalist but sadly their funding has fallen short But this is one of the coolest things i've seen. It is kind of incredible to watch robots playing music and it. They have no vogel's obviously because they are trying to raise money to build vocalist. And i can imagine that's very expensive. 'cause i mean programming. It's itself building a robot in programming to play. A an instrument is one thing but programming a robot to have like a voice box and all of that sounds way more difficult and a lot more expensive. But this is one of the coolest things that i've seen. It is really cool. Really killer definitely gonna posted at the twitter at gmc underscore weird news. Because i want you guys to see it. This is so cool. This guy is a genius. Let's move on to a strange one. This is the monks now. That sounds kind of like your average band name. But they are not very average They wear garb when you look at them. They look like your stereotypical monk they wear the monk robes with the tassels and they shave their head in that like bald on the top and ring around style. i'll have to post a picture of them too so you can kind of understand what i mean. If you're not getting it but they make like a primal rock rhythms and they do it on a banjo. That is actually been strung with guitar strings instead of the normal banjo strings. And these sound killer. Like i actually really like the sound of this band but their lyrics are something else now. Let me quote some of their lyrics to kind of explain to you. what i mean. the lyrics and i quote my brother died in vietnam james bond. Who is he. We don't like the atomic bomb. Yeah it's it's a lot Their lyrics are weird. The sound of the band is really cool. And i enjoy it. It's not something that's weird to your ear when you hear it. The lyrics themselves are weird. But that's weird and the weirdest part of all of this. The just part of this entire band. I feel like oh. It's monks and they're playing rock music and they got weird lyrics and that's weird but the strangest part is they're not monks. They are a mayor or they were american. Gi's that were stationed in germany in nineteen sixty five. So these guys were american. Gi's who were stationed in germany and decided to make this weird monk band and so it kind of makes sense when they're talking about like my brother died in vietnam and we don't like the atomic bomb. That kind of stuff makes sense. But i don't know where james bond who is. He comes in and a lot of their lyrics When i was listening to their music did sound kind of war related and like peace related. So i can kind of understand what that comes from if they were you know since they were. Gi's american gi's so makes sense but it's really strange that it's kind of weird to see because when you look at the picture they just look like monks they look like your average monk that you would not think twice that they're american. Gi's or anything else than a monk but they are definitely not and called the monks. It's it's really strange. But like i said once again the music is really good. I enjoyed the music. At least it's kind of. It's just kind of your sixty rock. And i enjoy a lot of you know sixties seventies rock and stuff like that but I think that's i don't know. I thought this was really interesting because of you know you like all the monks and their monks singing and that's cool but it's the fact that they were american. Gi's it's really strange to me and it was also really strange that their music was so good. I don't know i listened to them. I also listen to the like. I said i listened to the impaled northern moon vest which is just beyond strange. And then i also listen to compressor head since i had to see robots playing instruments like. That's the coolest thing. I don't know it's just so cool but let's take a quick break and when i come back we'll talk about some more bands. Some more weird bands that exist and have existed shakeout show built around the women and the ufc invicta nfc championship. We got the fights cover. It's the golden state media. Concept's women's mma podcast. The latest news upcoming fights discussions of previous matches. Join us as we talked to in about the biggest names in women's mixed martial arts past present and future when it's the women's fight game you know where to listen to the golden state media concept's women's mma podcast. Hello and welcome back to the gmc weird news podcast now before the break. We end this entire podcasts. We've been talking about weird bands that have existed and exist today now. Let's move on okay. So i listened to all of these bands about to talk about and besides the facts i have for you. I have some stuff to say about their music so let's move onto abrupt them now. They were dubbed the essence of pure black evil and they were dubbed this by mayhem guitarist. Enormous enormous like it's it's real weird And it's two other members which are it and evil and apparently they raised hell with torturous and horrific atmospheric noise now. I heard this. And i was so confused the when i read this i i was really confused on what they meant so i went and i listened and man. This is not for the faint of heart. This is something that's really uncomfortable. Listen to it's a lot of screaming and like but it's not like screaming like in music. It's like there's weird horror sounds and someone's being tortured it sounds like you're listening to a horror movie in not watching it. It's it's really strange. I love horror movies. But i'm not about this This is something that like. I'm not gonna post but if you guys decide to go listen to it. Listen with caution because it's so uncomfortable to listen to now. Let's talk about the producer. Peter tag took grin t. a. g. t. g. r. e. n. Not sure how to say that but he explained that he would just leave them to make music. He wouldn't stay around while they made it. He just leave them and when he came back there was blood all over the walls and one of their albums in the can. That's an actual quote is blood all over the walls in one of their albums in the can now. This band is just i can't. The music is so uncomfortable. Listen to and i'm not about it. Let's move on to velvet cocoon. Now they appeared in the early two thousands and they are an ambient like black metal underground band that made a bunch of outlandish claims about their back story. Let's talk about this Or were they really eco terrorist else. Did they really have metal guitar. That was wired to a diesel power or two diesel-powered tubes tubes tubes. That were transmitting sound via fiber optics through fifteen gallon aquarium of seawater wine and blood. No they were not. This was all a hoax. But i listen to this too and it honestly sounds like schmidt goal or ghalem from lord of the rings saying words. You can't understand over weird ambience music not for me Definitely not a fan. I didn't listen to the whole song. Just like i didn't listen to the whole song firm abrupt them because it was just kind of uncomfortable not as uncomfortable as abrupt them but definitely just weird and they made all these weird claims that they were elves that were aeko terrorists that had metal guitars that were wired to diesel-powered tubes transmitting sound via fiber optics through fifteen gallon aquarium of seawater wine and blood. Now what like this is one of the weirdest things so obviously they were very gimmicky ban. Something that they really wanted to pull people in. But it was all a hoax. They did not have all of this stuff's they weren't ego terrorists. They weren't elves you know and people thought it was a hoax and they were right like it's just odd like really strange on another level in their music is just so weird. Not something that. I enjoy at all yet i. Let's move on to sleepytime gorilla museum now. I actually enjoy this. I really enjoy sleepytime gorilla. Museum didn't think i was going to because they are described as a nightmares nightmarish surrealist progressive band. Now i i love progressive metal. And i think that's kind of why i like this band I really liked their music. I like the way the singers got such a deep voice. And i really enjoy it and i don't know that's just for it's for me but They they use custom built instruments Including the tangle rem the pedal action wig ler and the electric pancreas. Now what like. I have nothing else to say but what is really strange that they claim this but their music really good. Maybe it's just me but also let's talk about their self-proclaimed mission. Now this threw me for a doozy. I i don't know okay. So theirself Oh my gosh words. Today their self proclaimed mission is to destroy rock music with the power of rock music. What like what. I just don't get it like i mean it's probably just still gimmicky. A lot of these things are just gimmicky to get attention. But man if they didn't have this gimmick and they win is just a band. I think they do really really well. Honestly like they're weird. Self custom built instruments with their lake. Electric pank pancreas and action wheeler lake. Come on and and then they wanna destroy rock music with the power of rock music. It's oh it's strange on another level. But i really enjoy the music so i was listening to it while i read about it because i was trying to figure out what electric pancreas outed like to be honest and it was. It was really good at like. I don't know. I really enjoy it as a fan of progressive metal. I just i don't know i just get the music video glancing backout while i was reading about them and it's just real strange and old-timey look in but that seems to be there thing i think they're kind of along the lines of like trying to be a little steam punky but I enjoyed it but their whole claims are really weird now. Let's talk about one more weird thing about them so their first concert you think performed a small crowd or whatever and that's fine. No their first concert was performed to a single banana. Slug what i feel bad for that banana slug a little bit. Either bad or he got the best concert of his life. I don't know but this ban literally performed to a single banana slug in their first concert and they're not shy to talk about it. It's i don't know if that's also a gimmick thing it might really just be another gimmick thing but it's hilarious they wanna ruin rock music with rock music and then perform to i dunno banana slugs At least they perform to one. I don't know maybe their next step is to perform to a stadium. Filled with banana slugs could imagine. I would love to be the only person at that concert. I really would just to be able to like. Take pictures of this band and like video of this band performing stadium filled with banana slugs. I don't know. I thought this was hilarious. I this band really good. I don't know maybe it's just me but let's take a quick break and when we come back we'll talk about some more weird bands that have existed and exist in the now. Are you tired of the same old news. Are you sick of the seemingly endless political spin and negatively the diaz mc. America's still beautiful. Podcast is a weekly news. Podcast covering all the top positive and uplifting news stories we cover stories that will inspire uplift and remind you of the good in the world tune into the golden state media concepts. America's still beautiful podcast to get all the great and positive news stories of today. Download the mc. America's still beautiful podcast. On itunes stitcher soundcloud google play or anywhere your podcasts just tight diaz mc in the search bar suit welcome back to the. Gmc weird news podcast now. Before the break. And this entire podcast. We've been talking about weird bands that have existed and exists today. Now let's talk about finn. Thomas finn tomas fantomas. I'm not sure F. a. n. t. o. m. a. s. And it's got a weird little doodle above the you or the oh. Excuse me let's talk about phantom is that's where i'm going to call him. This band consists of mike. Patton who's the frontman melons slayer and mr bungle. They've released four studio albums and each one just different end weirder than the next. There are like a weird mesh of metal lounge and like metal lounge and oven guard. Sounds now i listen to them and literally what i heard was just ding ding ding. Click on the on the The drum and the The frontman are mr mike. Patton was just staring at him intensely and kept having to skip through it. Because that's all it was until it got to one part where he started making just weird sounds. It got really heavy metal. And he's just making weird sounds of mike stops and then the dinking starts again on the drum and then it happens again and then it stops and then again it was just the weirdest thing i've ever heard but anyway They use different concepts for each of their albums Ranging from one horrific seventy four minute. Long track that made up a whole album so a whole album. That was one seventy four minute long. Track is it's ridiculous And from there to a brief blasts of noise which. I assume this is what. I heard But just to brief blasts of noise for a comic book themed record. Yeah real weird real strange not a fan but apparently they had been on a six year hiatus but then reformed for a tour back in twenty fourteen. And that's the last they've been heard of so they basically took a six year. Long year hiatus came back. Did a tour and then vanished off the face of the earth. I don't know this is one of the strangest things i've ever heard That was the number one thing i could find. Was that weird sound in noise. I dunno it was just so strange. And i can't even explain it now. Let's move on to captain beef heart in the magic band. You heard me correctly. Captain beef heart in the magic band. Now don van let villette via l. I. e. t. aka captain beef heart Started out as like a group that did some aren't being the sixties and that was capped beef heart and his merry band. They were said to be the next rolling stone. Says kind of what they were. Set to be and captain beef. Heart did not like that. He was not a fan of that so he ended up doing everything to be the exact opposite of what they were. He did not want to be known as the next rolling stones. He didn't i don't know why he didn't wanna be that big but he got real mad about it and win a complete opposite direction. Now i listen to this and man. Is it strange and The cover of an album was a man with a fish head. I don't know if that's a constant. But that's what i listen to you and it was a bunch of talking in the beginning and then some music with just the weirdest thing said around it would. I don't even know how to explain this man. So they're kind of like consist of slivers of normal music but mostly just pure confusion and weirdness. I don't know how else to explain it. It is so difficult. But apparently mr beef heart or sorry. Captain beef heart Ended up retiring in nineteen eighty two to focus on abstract art. Which makes sense. Because i'm pretty sure. His music is just abstract art. It is the strangest garble you will ever hear. Probably post a little bit of it because it's not bad it's just it's not like uncomfortable like some of the other things we've talked about. It's just weird. But he left to work on abstract in nineteen eighty two and then eventually he passed in two thousand and ten but his music lives on. That's the thing so. I'll probably posted on twitter at gmc. Underscore weird news Just this is. I can't explain it so i'm gonna have to post it probably post on the facebook it well as well. Gmc weird news. And i 'cause 'cause you guys got to hear this to know what i'm talking about. This also goes for the next one now. This one is a doozy. This one is even stranger than our friend. Captain beef heart and his magic band Let's talk about the residents. So sounds pretty tame right well. It's hard to even categorize what type of music they are. So they've got like advent guard compositions and a one of a kind like multimedia projects like their their music videos are the strangest things and the really really short songs. And what i had seen when i listened A short little song with a weird weird multimedia presentation a stop another weird song with a weird little thing and then a stop and they was just very short and not really long songs now. They take standard music and kind of create strange sounds rhythms tones. That fit their weird concept but man it makes no sense also. They use a lot of eyeball emma's imagery in their music. I'm not one hundred percent. Sure why. But this is one of the weirdest things i've ever heard and i've heard some weird things like. Don't get me wrong especially listening to all these other bands. Almost all didn't listen to some of the beginning ones because they were a little harsh but I man i just. It's i don't know how to explain it. It is so strange will also post this on the at gmc underscore twitter and the gmc Facebook because this is so strange. And i don't know how else to describe it and this is a podcast and you can't just sit here and watch and listen to things with me. I mean you can listen to me. But i i want to like really bring home that this is one of the strangest things i've ever heard hundred ten percent the weirdest things and i mean captain beef heart and the magic band is really weird as well as phantom ass- or fantomas over there really strange with this takes the cake when it comes to weird and it's not uncomfortable or like unsettling it's just really strange in avant-garde that's why i really wanna post it to show you guys because it's not. It's not uncomfortable. Weird there no murders in it. No no weird thing like that. It's just these this weird weird like other worldly kind of what they're going for kind of alien ask Thing that just doesn't make sense and is really really unbelievably hard to explain now. I really wish that i could explain this to you. But i'm definitely going to have to just send you send the video out on the facebook and the twitter for you guys to go see and watch. I'm going to do that with a lot of these. So prepare for a lot of post because i will be doing this the minute this comes out. I've saved all the music videos. So i can just send them out on the twitter. This is just so strange. This is just one of the weirdest things now. Before i keep trying to explain and not be able to explain to you the the residents. Let's take a quick break. And when i come back. Let's talk about some more weird bands. But maybe some that you haven't heard of but i've definitely heard of before the gmc live in happiness. Podcast takes you on a journey of exploration. We'll discuss tried. And true methods alongside the latest trends of how to best live your life to its fullest. Unhappiest from psychology to meditation science to sell books the genus mc. Live in happiness podcast. We'll help you to discover what makes you happy and how you can live live being the best possible. Download the mc life and happiness. Podcast on itunes stitcher soundcloud. Google play or anywhere. You find podcasts just tie. Gsm see in the search bar. Welcome back to the gmc weird news podcast now before the break and once again this entire podcast. We've been talking about bands like strange bands that have existed and exists today. Now i wanna focus mainly right now and at the end of this about bands that exist today once in ones that i've actually known about ones that i've known about for a while and ones that need to be talked about and actually aren't on a lot of lists of weird bands and i don't know why so. Let's talk about first and foremost my favorite of weird bands oakley coakley. Now i've known about this fan this band for a while and some of you actually might have heard of this band or seen this band on tv. And i'll tell you why so. Oakley does is a heavy metal band that they all dress up as ned flanders from the simpsons. Now not only do they. Dress up as ned flanders from the simpson They all call themselves. Ned flanders. so you've got head ned guitar. Ned base ned drum ned. Like yeah and all of their lyrics are actual quotes from ned flanders. So they actually started out as just something fun to do at local clubs in phoenix. They didn't think this was going to take off. They thought that this was just going to be a fun thing for them to do. And it would get a good view laughs and then five years later from that. They ended up touring in a van. That they appropriately called. The ned vancouver's They also dress up. As ned flanders in the green shirt green sweater green sweater with the i'll i'll a photo of them all also post a music video of them So they dress up as as ned flanders and they actually ended up catching the eye of the people at the simpsons and they ended up playing the music video for white wine spitzer over the closing credits for the episode. I'm just a girl who can't say vdo now. This is ridiculous so this is probably why where you might have heard of them from. But they are actually amazing. I like them so much. They are hilarious. They're great all their lyrics ridiculous because they're all ned flanders quotes and. I really liked their music videos. All definitely post that on the address mc underscore weird news twitter and gmc facebook Weird news facebook page now. They are still thinking today. I mean they got popular and they had this episode. Not very long ago And they have tour dates for twenty twenty. So if you're looking for something to do and you see that oakley coakley is coming to your town. Go see them. It sounds like such a fun show. It sounds like such a good time now. Let's move on to another one that i've known about that. I believe have actually toured with oakley doklam. I think they did. But don't quote me on that and this is mack. Now they're an american parody heavy metal tribute band from la los angeles california and they started in twenty fourteen now they are the self appointed founders of the drive through metal. Genera- drive through metal genre there. The appointed founders they primarily parody black sabbath songs with songs like a pair of buns Which is a cover for paranoid frying pan a cover for ironman sweet beef a cover for sweet leaf and never say diet or a cover for. Never say die now. Their lyrics are actually Lake centered on fast food and they address negative health effects and lack of nutritional value as well as low wage jobs and consumerism. Along with a bunch of things that they talk about so they actually kind of have a semi-good message but they are a parody of black sabbath. They're hilarious too. Listen to and they. All dress is mcdonald characters. Now i've sorry is just kind of funny. I was looking at a picture of them earlier. I was. I was listening. You know just to see here. The new stuff because they are currently still touring and playing And let's talk about their names. So you've got vocalist. Ronald osbourne bassist grim. Alice guitar slayer mccheese. And the drummer is cat burglar or peter chris. Chris cut fries. It's great They also actually recently ozzy osbourne and he loves them. He thinks they are so hilarious. I can't actually quote him because he uses a lot of bad words but he thinks they're absolutely fantastic and hilarious. He met them and he had a great time. So i think that's kind of a great thing when the ban that your parenting is like you know what this is great. You guys are hilarious. Keep doing what you're doing now. I'm not excited to talk about this next band. Because i've known about them and you've probably heard about them. They've been on television. They tour a lot or they come to my city And i do not like them but we could not make this weird bands podcast without talking about guar. Now that spelled gw a are they are a heavy metal band that was formed in nineteen eighty-four and are still going on today. They formed in richmond. Virginia and They have constant rotating musicians and to this day they are Still going like i said But with no original founding members so they're all new members original founding members they don grotesque costumes. I'm not going to post any videos or any photos. Because their costumes are can get a little rated r. or more. And i don't i'd rather not i also just don't want to promote them because i can't stand them you know like i just there. There are a lot and let me tell you. Why so they don. These were test costumes. That are just over the top. They're trying to be like warriors and somewhat fantasy but they okay the use in their music and in their shows over the top like violent sexual and saddle logical humor incorporating political satire. Now they're shows are a whole thing. I've never gone to one. I know people who've been to them. I know people who like guar. And i just can't with them now at their shows. They have graphic violence and the audience will be sprayed with lots of fake blood urine and other stuff. That i can't talk about and i don't wanna share with you guys now. These i gore goes really far. They've been on talk. Shows the used to appear on mtv. They've done so much stuff and they're on every list for weird bands because they are extremely strange and i just don't think they're good. I don't think they're music's good. I don't like what they stand for. Because it's just all over the place overly sexual and very very violent and not a good thing. Now i'm just going to cut it off there with guar and i wanna thank you guys so much for listening to me ramble about bans. I'm about weird bands. I love music. I play music. And i sing music all the time and i actually thought of this idea because i i'm doing some shows with a a friend of mine another friend And they were talking about band names and everything they gave was really strange in just weird so i thought that this would be a good idea to talk round owner. Thank you guys so much for listening to me and thank you so much for listening to the gmc weird news podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. And if you really like podcasts. The gmc podcast network has pretty much everything they have a a topic. Podcast for anything you like. Go check them out once again. This is thank you for listening for the to the. Ooh i'm just rambling once again. Thank you for listening to the. Gmc weird news podcast brought to you by the gmc podcast network. I'm your host colleen. 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25.09  MU Podcast  The Astral Meadow

Mysterious Universe

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25.09 MU Podcast The Astral Meadow

"We'll get a mysterious universe season. Twenty five episode nine coming up on the show we've got taking a stroll in the astral meadows the transformative power of the nda and the magical flesh. Light of occult power. I'm benjamin grinding joining me. Aaron right it's never anything simple is it has to be a cult power. It always has to have some filthiness attached to it. Have you ever noticed that will definitely on ordinary flesh off. It's a magical so what happens. Why is it bad jiggle. Will you're about to find out. Okay plus extension. This is way to r. rated. Go in the free version of the show. Of course but i've been looking into this book that came out from monaco. William west called six magicians. How could we resist the lives and spiritual practices of pascal. Beverly randolph alliston curly. Of course jack. Possums magyari cameron anton levay and others. And it's the end others. I'm going to focus on mostly on this episode right because we know about some of these other filthy sex magicians all. He's got a in great detail. Croly being roger advise assistant in the desert of while we know very well invoking the god pan and turning into hermaphrodite when he goes home. Let me try to summon. Some demon is well. It wasn't just pain. Wasn't it's something else that was that was was. The name of the demon is showing. They were yes summoning a great con demonic force and it worked apparently they Rigid each other in the desert. God is just. I caught white here. It's actually not as a as dirty as you would expect although the the fullwood is from hannah haddix. Who details her own gruesome Explorations into six magic which involves a lot of bodily fluids. Yeah i'm going to skip over that. That's what i expected the whole book debate. Yeah but no west has done this really fascinating look at the lives of these individuals and some of them. Just start at like. Pascal beverly randolph. For example who started before all these people he was way before croly and these magical orders he was around the same time levinsky his life is fascinating bam booze. Old that there isn't a hollywood movie about this guy. Really first of all you know growing up in the. I think he was like the eighteen thirties. Or something he was born but he he grew up in abject poverty he was in This the five points. I think it was cold in new york city which was considered to be the most violent place like the most murders of any place in history on planet earth. Wow apparently in this borough of new york and he rose to eventually be lecturing. The french in paris about his magic sexualisation. He taught how to read and write by reading street signs on the on the state of new york city when he was a kid. It's just an amazing story And he was he was like an eighth black as well one. Who's at that will. The policy for the time period was an octa rune. So he's he's ancestry was a quarter black right So essentially for the time. He was considered a black man. Yeah so he just faced all this adversity and just came out of nothing to become this incredible figure that went onto to lay the foundation. Full this wall to cult madness front spread through the west. Is this the god that ended up actually going into a battle with At one point yes. He had a bit of a beef right. Oh both releasing distracts vascular release swan and haywood release on. Yeah and i eventually came down to a shootout. And there's all these conspiracies about how he died cool or to that okay. So he's kind of like the two pack of the occult. He's yeah he's a two pack of the looking forward to that but this show. I actually wanted to go into a couple of things and i was looking at some synchronous cities recently because of course You know there's a new book out that is describing some of the most incredible coincidences the people of had beyond coincidences stories of amazing coincidences of said that were too many times and the mystery and mathematics that lie behind them. It's martin plymouth and brian king. And as i was Flicking through that. I started getting this concept of how synchronicity is play a role in the near death. Experience as well all this stuff that we look at in the paranormal. In the unexplained in the occult world. As i've always said we try to compartmentalize them in reality. Everything is all kind of mixed together in some of the way. And there's these deep connections between them and synchronicity in coincidence plays a really big role in that and it just so happened. That as i was going through beyond coincidence. I thought i'll just try and find some background. Some of these stories visit a few stories in here which i'll mention a little bit later on but as i was going through looking for the background i saw defined this heavy thread of people that have had these comforting synchronicity. He's often. i've had the loss of a loved one. Okay and a really good example is it's really funny as well because like when people seem to have poltergeist activity when they going through your highly emotional states soul your distress of some kind. It seems like synchronicity lineup. For people in these highly distressed states after losing someone. It's like the power of the motion. We'll just discussing the loss. Plus show the idea that full higher higher realms to communicate with human beings way down here. They talked to a directly. Yes the only way that can communicate is through the we'd security carrying a kind of hidden message that for you is very remaining and i think you recall Recall that you said that For some people the whole idea is because these realm beings. Let's say that someone's pasta. Why may have actually moved onto the upper realm. They can't communicate with us because it would be like marketing us. There's this summit. This much energy energy in the higher realms would just you would blow up that they tried to talk to you so that so the idea was the only time you'll hear a direct conned of communication is with something lower like something from the loa astro realms is the research donaldson was saying. This is that the the lower entities will speak directly to you and pretend to be something higher which becomes very clear when we go into the sex magicians. Yes just they end up Offing themselves in horrible ways. Yes it's just incredible actually how that happens and this is one thing that happens to people that are going through these states of extreme distress which is totally understandable. When you lose someone but it's also fascinating that it seems like depending on the type of death the more likely that the synchronous city. Oh the message is gonna take place for example. It's like if grandma but grandma has been suffering from a long illness and you know you knew that she was going to pass away on point. Synchronicity is are there for some people but the likelihood of them occurring seemed to be loa whereas if it's a sudden unexpected death of a partner or a child it seems like those synchronicity even stronger but what does happen to some people been and this ties in with what you're saying is that some people become especially in those extremely distressing states become so addicted to getting a message or communicating with them that they do stop directly communicating with something through wrapping also and turns out to be some low level entity that is preying on the person's misery. Leslie kanes book on the evidence of life after death had that really moving story of her brother passing away. I am was on the or something something williams. She was getting lots swing on and off in her apartment and yet tapping in the kitchen. You know she started to communicate back with but what came across from her was. It didn't feel good. yeah indulge. It didn't feel right to indulge that communication though something off about the whole thing yes no she ever went there. I think she was convinced it was a brother. But i'm certainly not convinced yet. I i. I don't know what these things are. No it's it's very common and a couple of stories that i was. I was looking into which didn't go any because actually became quite unsettling. Is that these people. Essentially they because. I was so caught up and they couldn't move past the death of someone. They start communicating so much with these things that these things essentially destroyed their lives but it prevented them from being able to move on and ultimately some of them resulted in. You know very Upsetting situation to the person going through it but then you look at the other side and this is where i think there is a genuine communication that comes through all of this pull woman in the nineteen eighties. That lost her daughter. So what had happened was that she had a dropped her daughter off at. I think it was like a ballet class or something like that. And as she driven off some she didn't see it but some car had lost control and just after she dropped her daughter off had knocked zero ad and killed instantly and a terrible thing. And this woman didn't know it because she went home to do whatever she does and then she came back to pick a daughter up from this lesson defined. This is before mobile phones. Sonoma's getting contact with her and she didn't know what was going on to find. Her poor daughter had been killed instantly and understandably as i said she was so distraught. She was just such a mess and what she did is that she started getting the sensation that a daughter was still around and she was saying to yourself. This is ridiculous. I'm just obviously on. i'm upset obviously. This is just wishful thinking but it just kept on coming through right so ultimately go to the point where she felt like she had to move on but she needed to disconnect from this nagging thought of. She's still here. She's still around me so what she does is she says something. She just yells out just kind of just look. I want to communicate with you. You need to move on but just tell me that you're okay. Just tell me your. It's like audibly sending this out into the universe and she claims that after this would have happened is that she happened to be driving. Back plot pasta where The ballet lesson was for some reason. This happens quite commonly as like even though you are completely in control of yourself. Sometimes you feel these compulsions that and you don't know where they come from. It's something just tells you. Stop here get out. And that's exactly what she. She stopped the car she got out and she was kinda standing there for a moment and trying to like. Oh my god this boy. I lost my daughter like accomplish. This is a location where i lost her and she looks down and when she looks down this perfect brand new pencil lying on the ground just perfect and like his brightly colored pencil and her daughter. Just you know. I love stationery as as young girls are kinda into those sorts of things at so she leans down. She picks up his pencil this on shop and in brightly colored pencil and with this perfect rubber on the brand new kind of weed because if it was just a pencil that was lying there. They're expected to be to. And yeah exposed. You know having suffering from exposure so she picks it up and has almost glistening are. She says that the way that has comes through and written on the end. The pencil is just simply. I'm okay. oh wow. Isn't that incredible offer. You just going to stop it. There was a pencil. No wow on the end of this was i'm okay. And that's all she needed and strange enough that released her from all these emotions and everything was going on. 'cause you know she never forgot her daughter and obviously deeply loved her daughter but at the same time she was able to move on and then look after her other children and going to have more children and it just becomes. You know this thing. That is a part of your life doesn't completely consume me. So that's a really positive thing that happens with these these new deaths. Synchronised won't even need death after death synchronicity but there are other ones that pop up and it just happened that this week The latest addition of lesson. The release of dr. Bruce grayson's oughta has come out. Yes i sold. This came out. Amazing to see grayson releasing. Grayson's a really fascinating character. And i'm gonna go into a little bit of his background. But the book is author dr explores what near death experiences revealing about life and beyond and i strongly recommend that you pick up this book even if you are familiar with a lot of the need experiences. There's just a few of these little details and that really gives you some understanding about the possibility of their truly being life with a death is a transitional space to another consciousness to another existence. Another dimension we don't know what that is but there is enough scientific evidence to suggest that we do go somewhere else that it's not all black doesn't fade to black. It doesn't end something and it's an endless loading screen. Yeah exactly yeah. And i really liked about about bruce crisis. And bruce christ himself has undergone these his own experiences of essentially trying to come. It's funny how you like your childhood impressions and what happens with your parents strongly influence youth throughout your life like it's and it's a much longer than you actually ever expect and this is something that will. Yeah it really is. And this is something that comes out in ingraham's research but ultimately dr bruce grayson he's worked with people like raymond moody in stevenson he's the co founder of the international association for near death studies and he was dealing with near death experiences before near death experiences existed. And what i mean by that is of course near death. Experiences have always existed but the actual term and the scientific and want you don't even scientific but maybe the academic understanding of them didn't really exist until a number of years. After dr bruce grayson had some of his experiences so again. Like synchronicity. coincidence something. That was very personal to him but set him off on this path for the rest of his life so i want to open with the story that kind of set up everything for him and he describes he's relationship with his father's that his father was a really good father but he was really driven and fascinated by science and he said every single house we lived in dad always had chemistry lab set up underneath a house. Which is kinda cool. what do you think about. And he said you know dad would take his downstairs and would show us different chemistry tricks and was ores encouraging me to have a scientific mind always look at things from a scientific perspective and he said i was so driven by this that actually led her on when he started going through looking at me death experiences. He almost felt like in some way that he'd let his father down in certain circumstances and he also felt it wasn't necessarily because he was looking at the death experience it was because he was looking at the near death. Experience from the perspective of trying to scientifically analyze it and at this point in the book actually describes many years. After looking at the near death experience and because he was dealing with patients he had access to the dada. He had access directly to people that describing their experiences and he was at the university of michigan. And he'd been doing this research for a long time when he finally gets dragged into the office of his boss and when he goes in his and he was expecting it to be kind of like just a performance review. And hey everything's going great. You're doing really well. And he's boss is quite aggressive but very forceful and says to him. You have to stop doing research on near death experiences. It's old garbage. And he's like oh down. Yeah it really. He was like no no. I'm i'm actually getting information out of this. I'm finding data and finding statistics. I'm finding evidence. And he's like no. You have to stop and for grayson. He said like this is where i felt. Like i'd let my dad down. He saw feel very upset about. And even what was fascinating but it even this boss from the university of michigan who was saying it's all anecdotal. That's nonsense he actually didn't says grayson why father had a new death experience. But that doesn't matter why are you. Why are you pushing back so hard on this. And it's because within the scientific community and this is not bashing science by any means but in itself forms its own dogma. It becomes the whole idea of what people seem to lose. The perspective of a science is that science is about constantly questioning. no it's not shrug about trustee alliance. Science doesn't stop. It does doesn't and this is what happened with the near death. Experience that people think that all will know we understand this. We understand biology. And we understand how the brain works so we stopped there. And we don't bother to inquire and people's experiences that just simply hallucinations on the brain showing which we know will now. It's just deferring to authority. That's all it is is just use it as as an authority to follow. But this is why. I really have an immense amount of respect for dr bruce crisis because that didn't stop him and in fact one of these things that happens in life where it feels like. It's a setback is actually done it on purpose. Maybe by the synchronous stick nature of the universe fate. If you will to push you in another direction. So did he just defy his boss cape going he left. He went to another university. he moved across. He moved his entire family across the country and he said it ended up being revolutionary for his research and he's understanding of the near death experience. So you can see just how passionate this man is about the new death experience but let's go back to where all started all started when he was Back in the sixties seventies and he was a young psychiatrist and one of his earliest jobs was actually dealing with a psychiatric assessments at admissions for people who had attempted to commit suicide in a very dangerous area to be working in obviously for the patients and obviously very rewarding can help them out but he said he sets the scene of where he's sitting in the cafeteria of this particular hospital and he's just aiding the spaghetti bowl organized and has he's eating it. He says he's pasia conoco's goes he's beeper starts going vibrating on his on his belt and he says as vibrates it kinda shakes him a little bit and it calls and not that more from the shock. The vibrators vibrating off the shake in the shock and it causes him to spill his balkanized. Danny's tie it looks. It's not everywhere. There's only a little bit is. Oh that's that's really annoying. So he's got this lab coat on and being a psychiatrist. You just went normal day clothing but you put the lab coat over the top so ties. He's lab coat up so it's covered. Anyone does down to see what he's being summoned to so he goes in and it turns out that this young girl had just been admitted to hospital because she had attempted to commit suicide by taking an overdose of drugs name was holly and she was this young college girl and she was in a really really bad way like a terrible wine should been wield into the emergency room. I suppose performed whatever they had to do but they didn't know what drugs she had taken. So they're trying to assess what drugs taken and she had this problem that obviously these drugs affected a heart because a hot was kind of skipping bates and they must have been some point. And it's not reveal but they must have been some point with either solo that she had flatlined or something had happened to her. She wasn't in her body anymore. But we don't know that at this moment so with this particular hospital down. There's a family waiting room up. One hundred one very end of this long whole you have the admissions area in the aaagh and at the very end you have the family room where people white and so he was told that holly was brought in by a friend and so he wanders down this hallway and he goes into the waiting room and he sees the friends and he says all You've brought hawley and heavy. And she says yeah i. I came home. And hollywood answering the door so i knocked a couple of times and eventually i felt wired about her so i opened the door and i found pasta out on a bed with pills lying around. Well then dr grayson says okay What has happened. You know what's going on with her and the friend says look. I don't really know her that. Well it's just you know. She's a college friend. I knew that she was under a lot of stress from school. I think she had a relationship problem. not entirely sure but just basically going through all these little details of over whatever they can find out dr grayson. Thanks her and says you know. That's that's really helpful. Thank you so much. And he says look. The best thing you can do is just go home. She's like yeah thank you was. I need to go home to write a paper. I can't stay here lot. And he's like yeah. We'll we'll do what we can. So this young goalies passes and spend the night trying to stabilize this. This young hollywood taking all these pills and eventually the following morning they had stabilize to dr grayson walks into a room. Now any walks into the room. He says there's a heart monitor beeping. And this leads all around as a screen above her bed and he just kathleen wanders over to her and pulls the curtain around and just softly says name. He's a on doctor grayson. i'm with the psychiatry team. Now she kind of opens her eyes and she she nods a little bit and she says yeah. I remember you. So he lost night doc. Grayson goes And he actually pull this busy chana replay the encounter and he's like Not possible you were unconscious in the so. I did see you were there but your unconscious. I didn't think you could see me. And without is still closed. She just modern. She says it wasn't in the er. He was in the family room. Any says this quote him short he actually stopped from because said there is no way the she could have seen or heard us talking at that. Far end of the corridor anything. Maybe this isn't the first time she's being to the er mike because how is she even. That's good the room is unless you'd been there. Shannon weekday checks the records. She's never been admitted to this hospital before as far as he knows he's never been there and says all the the staff telling you that was speaking to susan. Your friend loss not said no i saw you now grayson. Says he hesitated. And we didn't know what to say is I'm a bit confused. What do you mean you you wearing a striped tie and had a red statement to the ball nice. It was a bully nice stein. No one could see. Because he'd covered he had purposely because he was conscious of it and embarrassed by he had purposely made sure it was covered up by his lab coat so there was no way now. He leans forward and he just says. What are you wearing a striped tie with a red stain on it. And you talking to susan and you're asking why i had done this and what was going on. And she was all right she everything she said was true the he says the hair actually starts to raise on the back of his neck and he feels these goosebumps and he says in this rapid kind of movement that was going through his mind. She could not have possibly known everything that was said he said. Even let's just say like he was trying to go through the scenarios he said even if a nurse had been standing there listening what the nurse collectible that information it would have been quite. The nurse couldn't have known about the stain on my tie. And then why would a nurse or even another doctor ball the together and then tell her old information her to relate to me. This is and as i said. This is well before the whole near death. Experience had gotten into zeitgeist. So why do that. Why say something like that now. Left him quite confronted by this and he said he tried to focus on what was going on around him but he couldn't fathom how such a trick had been pulled off and he really felt like it was a trick so he ends up decided he's not going to ask any questions and he kind of backs away because her breathing becomes a little bit so he you know she's quite asleep Falling back asleep and he says look willed. I'm completely he's like. I was so bewildered. I didn't even go home and tell my family about it. I couldn't talk to anyone about this. I actually put this into the back of my mind because it was something that didn't fit into the framework of my experience. Just got on with life and yeah put it in the compartment. Yeah he kinda got on with it but where this all came back to the surface letter on is that wall. He was working in his duties. He ended up dealing a working with dr raymond. Moody now dr. Ram moody of course is well known for his research into near death. Experiences the out of body. Experience and dr raymond moody started Putting out kohl's patients and people to describe their experiences that they've had willing hospital or even in the near death state and he ended up getting overwhelming number of replies that he went to dr grayson. he's like all. Can you help me go through some of these through this weird coincidence see quinson. synchronicity again. Remember that patient. That's the thing soukous grayson starts reading through these lettuce. This was ramen. Moody's life ought to life which was published in nineteen seventy six when out so after this this book out the near death experience which he kind of coined the term started spreading out there. And this is why is he. Started reading through these experiences grayson went. This is what happened to me in that young girl this action. Maybe this is what happened. This would actually logically explain why she was able to collect that information even though she was nowhere niimi so for this this is why his career just in this in this particular research just exploded and offer this is where he co founded the international association for need studies. Any fig it look. I'm a psychiatrist. So and i've got access to to dada. I should stop doing research with these. People awesome about their experiences. And so he created this spreadsheet essentially like a set of rules or a set of questions that you can ask people in trauma work out what was going on with them but what he found as he started to do this dealing with people like he would go and talk to people in the cardiac ward who had obviously recovered from flat lining and he said in about ten percent of cases. These people had near death experiences. But that didn't even realize though needed experiences. What he did is that he would go and he would not try to lead people and this is really clever in the way that he did this as he would go and he would say hi. I'm dr grayson. What happened as the last thing that what was the last thing you remember. And he would say something on the lines of all. I was working in the garden. And i started to feel lightheaded and then all of a sudden i felt a pain and then blackness and then he would say okay. So do you remember anything off to that. And i would say oh. Yeah i remember waking up in the hospital in them performing procedures on me so like very much keeping it very natural run but then he would ask this question which in tampa percent cases would change things. He would say okay between those two points. Do you remember anything happening in the in between and some people would just be like no. It was black. Most people most people. Yeah people know it was black night. Nothing happened but in ten percent of people that stop from women and this is the thing. It's not like people like oh. yeah absolutely. This happened to this happened. This happened whereas i think if people are trying to make up a story get attention. That's maybe what they would do. You mean when they don't realize they had an nda it's like the memory wasn't even there until he promised them to remember like a dream that you forget ryan and then you don't recall until later on and so what these people would start doing is that they would say no. Oh oh actually yeah. Now that you mentioned like one guy was like there was one guy that described that he had been out tending to his hogs on he's farm and he had a cardiac arrest as like tending to my to my hogs and i passed out i remember blackness and then i remember why he up in the and then he's like well. What about in in the in betweens. Nothing like typical console. The connick guy. That doesn't really deal in what he considers nelson's but he goes. Oh actually no assume. I pol and talk to create. You'll you'll poor. Poor is be right. must be passed. That accident is so you guys any actually tries to push him and this is what he actually experienced. A number of people is that even when they did recall. This information is like okay you saw. What did you see that will reluctant to talk about it any further because all of a sudden it was like once they realize the hang on there was something in this blackness. The something i soul it was too confronting. It was too difficult for them to deal with. Now that's only a small percentage of cases but it seems like maybe Perhaps the tabu that's associated with near death experiences because more people have discussed them. And then now you know moving out. Through popular culture. More people are readily revealing what happens in that blackness like in that time and so a really good example is that of harry and of course dealing with with suicides in psychiatry a little shame is attached to it and there's a lot of misery and people really don't want to talk about when they have survived. The suicide attempt but harry's case was particularly interesting in another case. It was quite early on and dr bruton's dr grayson's career. He says that he went to go. See this guy. Harry and it was quite difficult to deal with this guy because as much as you clinical. You'll still a human being. And when he goes to see harry half of his face was blown off. It's just gone like it's a way and says you know. I kind of just two choices. Yeah well he's like. I try to look at him but i can't and it's like i've never met someone with half a face but he said and this is only six months into my psychiatric training but he says he he's lying on his hospital but and i couldn't stop staring at the right side of his face like it was hard to to not look and he's jor and shake which is gone and he says well. The plastic surgeons had done this remarkable job of pacing to get the skin grafts from his stomach and trying to fix the wounds on his face. I really had trouble maintaining composure. But as he was speaking to him he's not approaching this guy from the perspective of near death experiences. And this is what's really important and this is why. I think there's some truth to this because it's a very natural widening. Just go round the savoy thing. I would have done that. You're just. I just need to move up. He just go around the side. Maybe that way you also don't want to save like you're comfortable like you. I will show the person. Because i m picturing to face from batman unless the hof that was destroyed it wasn't like a vertical line that was. It was just so much you you do. What would salt. I've totally okay with you. i'll be very upfront about it. You a hideous uneasy around this other side so he just starts asking obviously all these natural questions Obviously not probing him as to why you did this but trying to get to the calls of why he did this. Oh can obviously help treat this guy but what was fascinating is. Despite the fact that henry had lost half of his face he was actually quite happy. Now someone who was in the state of blowing half their face off. You wouldn't think would be very happy and really ugly. That's that is awful. But now he starts talking to this guy and this guy basically sets up the he was. The youngest child is in his forty s. He was youngest child and a poll farming family. He's older siblings. Had all moved away from the family farm when they married but henry when he got married then never left time because there was no one else to to look and when he was twenty three. He's follow this off at a heart attack. And then a few years later his mother died as well and he was feeling quite lonely and unfortunately for some reason this loss of his parents contributed to him having a number of problems which also contributed to him engaging in devastating heavy drinking guilt about abandoning his mother. Because he's he's mulled the dodge. She had an ammonia and she asked to for him to stay in the hospital. And he's like. I have to go home and tend to the chickens and he did. I did it for a couple of hours. And she died in that time ball. He was away so it completely devastated. I mean he went down this really bad path and finally off to several months of depression and extreme drinking his wife left him the kids and he was all alone on this farm. So you can understand after losing so many people everyone essentially that this guy was in a really really bad way so we get to this point where he's just like i don't wanna die but i don't want to be alive anymore. And he says. I want to be named my parents some to be new them so he does. He goes out to the graveyard where his parents are in. This side by side crave any lays down the grave and he takes his rifle. He says he just simply gets to the point where he realizes that he wants to be near them and he puts the gun between these legs. He puts the barrel up underneath chain and pulls the trigger stupid. All in. i guess it's it's so hard know. Suicide is such a complex thing and you can understand that they're always ask people but maybe after having so much loss and all that alcohol you just in such a bad why is that you don't see any other way and as i said he didn't want to die but he didn't wanna live anymore so what he does though unfortunate. This is a really terrible thing. Is that like raymond Don't have million sort of grayson starts asking questions almost about the blackness he's like what are you remember what happened after that. And he's like well. Everything went black. And then all of a sudden i found myself in this beautiful meadow. I it was just this place. It was this beautiful green place and it was like wildflowers. Or around a says in the distance i could see my mother and my father and i heard my mother said to my father. Oh look here comes henry as she sounded so happy to see me so he says he stopped running towards him in this field of wildflowers. This beautiful place as he's running towards she stops and apparently he can see her expression change and she says oh oh henry now look what you've done because he's blind he's faisal he's funny he's face off but then why would that transfer into the other reality unless he still is going to. He hasn't fully stepped away from the reality. Hasn't fully departed from this space. And so he says the he stopped. His mother runs up to him. And it's black again like everything's black. And he takes his deep breath and he finds himself back in the cemetery and he says only can feel as warm puddle of blood under his head and he's thinking a little bit get help and what had happened was is that yeah. He'd shut himself. But it had taken off joran half of his cheek but admits these bright So he pulls him fortunately there was a gripe to get there and the gripe dego finds and get siemian and at first christ and things will. He must be having a hallucination. mary must be psychotic. But what if this was this experience that he had it totally transformed him. It was because he knew he said this wasn't a dream. This wasn't an hallucination. This was i saw my mother and my father and he's like now. I'm i'm comfortable now. I know where they are. And i'm safe. And despite the fact that this guy had blown off half of his face like you think that would be a very depressive. Wanting to go through it was completely transformative in his life. In a very short time he recovered and even several years afterwards was very happy about where he now lives in the world. Are you saying he didn't regret blowing hockey's face off while i'm not saying that i'm sure that they must be on some regret that you must have but the bird and that he was suffering from before and this feeling of there being nothing else and loneliness was iraq headed by. This experience nefer grayson. It was trying to look at the possibility of this. Is who's the nation. But this is one case of where there's just so much evidence for someone having a completely transformative experience by going through a near death experience it completely changes their lives on the other side and the difference is is that you may think with some people if they have any death experience and they lose their fear of death that they become quite hedonistic the become live with abandoned. But that's not the case. Many of these people have the death. Experience still have a respect for for life and for not getting themselves into situations where they could die but they also lose the depression and anxiety. That comes with it. So is that mostly. What the stories in the booker about i is this kind of transformation that occurs rather than the evidence of all this is a vertical experience and now we have proof that could have observed that. It's more about how they changed. Look it's a very it's it's both. It's very much grace and points out that in his book. The book is not about Statistics and studies even though that's all there and he references it in the book so if you want to go and find the actual statistics the question is and the answers to those things. It's all there in the back of the book but for him. It's about telling not only the transformative experiences that people undergo but also the experiences that he has had which is pushed him in this direction. So it's almost in a little bit of a white his as well but we're gonna take a break when we come back. We're going to look at some of the more bizarre near death experiences and how near death experiences of help people overcome things like schizophrenia. And the psychotic illnesses and even had experiences where midgets show up. Losing to mysterious universe aunt Too mysterious universe with talking about new death experiences and the new book from dr bruce crisis in autumn. And you know what ban in this particular book Even though he's describing a number of his personal experiences with this also describes midgets. Well no what i like about. It is that he is trying to look at this. From the perspective of clinical psychiatry. And one of the things that you can't necessarily rule out with people that well are. They having hallucinations and his mental illness. Play a role and people that have near death experiences and some of the research that was coming from was people that were depressed people that were committing suicide or attempting to commit suicide. All you have to be suffering from some type of level of psychiatric issue psychiatric pathology. Yes so is that somehow influencing what people are saying is the near death experience in some way some type of extreme psychological protection mechanism. That kicks in like the story. I was describing with the guy that blown half of his face off. It was almost like it. Was this realization that almost to the point of death that the mind had generated this hallucination to point back here that all chess not with them online does just magically generating. Yeah the the mind. Is this thing that operates outside of our influence. I don't buy it at all. And the reason. Why is because there's just so many other stories that are like this people that have had no interest in the occult who have displayed narcissistic or You know other types of personality traits that they're exhibitionists and yet they have these experiences and some people don't even want to talk about them. Some people are reluctant to talk about it. Because it's very confronting for what they have gone through but you know. Mental illness is something that does play a role and he wanted to look at that. So what was interesting though about how this one of the arguments put forward about the near death experience. Is that when people having these experiences that they are no doubt Results of hallucinations calls by either drugs. Used in emergency medical files in the break back late. It's all hypotheses in the brain of oxygen to the brain and like we'll know in most of these cases that people have no brain function at all. Their brain function is down and this is what grayson starts and i'm fascinated by this. Business is something that you and i've entertained. Numerous accounts ben but he starts having this large section of the book looking to the idea of the brain being a filter for consciousness rather than a generator of consciousness nonlocal consciousness idea and he talks about things. Like what we've heard before from terminal. Lucidity is a really good example. It's like people that have been suffering from dementia for you know years if not decades and then all of a sudden the day before they die though like let's have a party note and they remember all of their family names. They'll start singing. You know doing things like that. That kind of indicates that what grayson thinks is that the brain is a filter and right the four death. The filter finally completely breaks down and when that breaks down. That's why you have these cases of terminal lucidity This is why you also have. The people have the new death experience. Because that even though the memory is somehow stored in the brian for comeback. Later on it's because it's non local functionality. It's coming from somewhere else because your acceptance is somewhere else so he describes this tile of this guy who was suffering from the terrible schizoid affective disorder schizophrenic disorder. And for many many years he'd been on on anti-psychotic medication and he's frank medication but the poll guy was suffering from voices in his head rousing and ask if he was hearing voices a lot of voices in his head and finally enough with people. That tend to have schizophrenia. Is not just a simple voice of just some entity. It's often todd in with a religious figures and descriptions like that so he believed that at one point that satan was yelling at him wife was sitting next to a schizophrenic safra on a recent flight to sydney really and she said the halt like the woman was very open about it. She's like i. I hear voices and should the hallway. These voices were telling this woman that the plane was gonna crash and she's specically sitting next to wife and kids walking with his voices about the plane. No it's not gonna crash is don't get a crash and my wife had to kind of tell her it was going to be okay. She's really scared like it was really kind of scary situation. So obviously not on meds then. If that's notions on she was on really strong. Yes jeez that's that's really sad. You have to feel empathy for people going through that is it must be terrifying. And this is what happened to this young. This young guy was at university or college and he was studying and he'd managed to get himself onto the medication and the medication was working quite well but one of the problems with anti trip medication is it has massive side effects so this guy had been studying and doing really well and satan was no longer yelling at him and telling him all these horrible things so he got to the point where he stopped taking the medication. But i'm too tied. I can't stay up to write my papers. Focus it's affecting mexico luxembourg. Yeah it really did. And he was like it was just. Tiredness was one of the biggest problems. It wasn't conducive to win being effective studying so he went off the medication. And this is. Dr bruce grayson. Met him because the guy he ended up all the patick ward because he jumped out a window and jumped out a window. Because this voice had told like satan. Yeah had said that you're mine. And i'm taking you and you're going to die and you're worthless and essentially all these terrible thoughts that come through look audit believe schizophrenics Actually talking to to figures like that. But i still think it's probably low level spirits that are that are interfering with people. Because i just love doing it. I don't know why but this seems to be something about it. But this poor guy jumped and dr bruce crisis and starts talking to him now. Even though it wasn't necessarily need to experience it was near death experience on whether the guide jumped out a window we don't know if he flatlined but he was found unconscious now when he was found unconscious he must've with a great deal of force because he was in the orthopedic ward for the amount of damage that he had done. His legs lakes. If not worse tearing of ligaments and muscle tissue was quite horrible but the guy was seemingly happy. Aqui was a little bit. Happy and the schizophrenia. Had a bite it now. This is gonna voices. Weren't completely gone. But i had. I had abated significantly. Now dr grayson. In fact there was still another voice. That was there now. This is what's particularly fascinating about this case. Is that dr grayson target to him. Why did he go off your medication. And he'd just describes what i said to you being tied and being you know just taking a toll on his body that he says This voices i became so terrible. The that it forced to jump is like but when i jumped something else spoke to me. I says time slowed down now. This is something that dr grayson recognized. In many cases like people have need death experiences the perception of time completely changes now. The is this is all case. Actually of back in the seventeen or eighteen hundreds went there was. I think it was a sir. Godfrey can't remember his name off the top of my head but essentially he was a mountaineer. And this guy fell off a mountain when he was mountain climbing and people saw him fall off the mountain but when he fell off he claims that while he was falling time almost expanded to nothing. Like it's like time was irrelevant. And as he was falling. It was like this series of clicks of photographs. That were taking place as he was falling and what he did. He was able to make decisions as he fell. So as all if i turn my buddy in this direction i'll hit that one and then i can project or work at the trajectory and then i'll fall off and i'll full and because he did this. He then finally made the decision to force his body to fall under some trees to break his full well so this guy survived because of this change in perception now. Scientists have arguable. No it's like science when it perception changes. When you're in these heightened states and it's like some type of again psychological protection mechanism that saves you from doing this thing like no. I think it's more than that. Because so many people have described in the near death experience ratification of time and it being a relevant where another synchronicity comes in is it this guy who had fallen down a mountain. I don't know if it was him or someone who told the story too. But what he had done his gone to university and sorta describing this experience to people. This is back in the early nineteen hundred so eighteen hundred and was describing this experience at just so happens that this whole idea of time. Dilation and relativity. Marvin spied a very young scientist by the name of albert einstein. Feinstein literally did and that scientists name was album. Weinstein was in his claws and this is where he'd been and so we're not saying grace not saying look directly that this is what happened but maybe this set. The seeds planted the seeds for the idea of relativity. Because that's exactly seemingly what happened. This time changed for him as happens. This young physics student. That gets this knowledge. And then later on he comes up with a theory of relativity. It's like one of these small little synchronize pop up but going back to what happened to this young college guy who jumped out the window. He said when time had almost completely slowed down he said the voice of god still religious right but the voice of god came through and told him that. He's a good person that he shouldn't have done this. That he needs to survive that he needs to live and that site going to leave him alone and he says this young guys like ungracious. Looking at this guy. He's face he can just tell you can tell when there's a truth behind them. He said this voice was completely different to the voice that was coming through from his head previously the voice and grayson wall. He doesn't really Site directly he basically suggests that this voice is something that other people describe near death experiences. That is actually fairy real. It's something's not within you so the voice that was coming through before was very negative. Horrible thing that may be generated from organic brian problem or the psychological issue that he's suffering from but whatever the voice was he doesn't think it's connected with him like it's not something that's associated with him so that means it's some type of third party that he's making a difference now what this voice did as it completely abetted his psychotic state. He said once this had happened. This voice had come through hid derived such concert from this thing that there will and even though he was calling. God it didn't matter what it was it completely transformed. His outlook and his mental illness didn't cure it. Of course but it did make a huge amount of difference to him moving forward so then this ties into this idea of while you know. What is the malfunctioning of the filter. And the brian is that. What's causing schizophrenia. And then what was this. External factor that was taking on. Is this something that it is a high being higher consciousness in the recent work. We did a remember the names but they had spent a lot time schizophrenic patients. They defied these positive. Voices that that come through But it's it's so incredibly read that they communicate directly saying elia it's the the ones here The low level negative things that wanna ruin you the the ones that have your best interests at heart and wanna help you. They communicate through indirect. Means unless it's an absolute emergency examined jumping out of a window. Yeah absolutely it's not. It's like a it's a spiritual moti and this is what plays a role in a lot of these near death experiences and this ties into a store this a little bit different but has similar tone to it. And that's the story of stephen now the way that grace and stephen is that stephen this twenty five year old nurse. He had this near death experience when he decided to end his life by taking a suicidal overdose of opioids and grace and describes the scene. Where he walks into the hospital room just like he had done with the previous guy. Who's his name was paid. And he says all hi. Hi stephen can you tell me about what you did and steven congress is like i guess. I'm in little trouble on i. Why what are you talking about. And so what this guy is. Don is that because he was a nurse he had access to painkillers. Opioids had stolen them so he was obviously very worried about that more than what had happened in his. He's we'd near death experience. But economists bright grayson just brushes it away. Because that's not really the what he's trying to get to. That's just kind of a. You know an aside arm of what was going on with him but he says look. Tell me about what happened. He says well. All i know is that i took an overdose of these pills and i dozed off. But i work with his incredible cramping. He said i felt really nauseous. And i thought that i was going to. This is what happens with some people in the chart drug overdoses rather than the drug breaking down and getting into your system it kinda clumps together and calls us this immense pains a very nice way to go at all in fact. There's this description of where people. Because of the bonding agents. That are in some pills. It just forms like this hard mass inside you that you have to get out. And it's it's a very horrible thing. But stephen describes that with these stomach cramps he actually got up and he thought i can't commit suicide. I have to go on kull someone so he stopped dragging himself to the kitchen and he's he's wandering around he says it's about thirty feet from his bed and he puts his hand up against the wall to steady himself and he says he's really groggy and he's just moving back and forth. After a moment is i must have been having an hallucination. ungracious says okay. Yeah we'll tell me about this loose nation. I said well as i realized that they were midgets milling around my legs and around. My apartment says though making it harder for me to work tomorrow. This is going to be vigilant with no white for his leg. It's like elves elves. Nda will making it hard for him to walk. So it's like trying to stop him from getting to the phone like they went directly doing it but and crisis midgets. You wasn't show that. I heard him and he says yeah. Is it though these small people like that will just all around all around the bed. And i know it sounds crazy but i could see these things. They were everywhere it was. It was really confusing. He says but as i see these midgets all of a sudden i find myself out of my body and he says what are you can see. Is these looking down upon his body with his hand bracing against the wall and he's can see his house he's a pop is full of midgets everywhere is. He's apartment the circus. They just walking around between my legs and they're wondering around and you say i think i'm having like an host nation. But he says in this this is the thing right so when he was not well. Who's still in his. It felt like this groggy hallucination. But when he was out of his body something which is described in the near death experience it was perfectly crystal clear and it was almost like he had a separation from his body was like the i the mass that was him was now he was separated from it. And what he said is that he actually felt like he witness the midgets being the hallucination generated by his mind but he could see in perfect clarity. It was like this to conflict the brain filter working and then him being separated from the filter as well so the midgets went real that were conjured by his mind yet but then in his out of body state in this next level he was able to see the hallucination that were being generated by his brain. So it's like this we'd like was he generating a topic foam. It's like he doesn't know he says he doesn't understand what he was seeing. But it was completely confusing. But not while he was out of body a says the next thing he realizes that he's he's midgets that he's often the corner of the ceiling. And then bam he blacks out. And he's lying on the floor waking up very woozy and all the midgets gone. And then that's when the emergency services show up and drag him off to hospital so this experience grayson points out that you have to draw the two roles of experience that the people are having. It's like yeah you can have hallucinations. But then also it doesn't mean that the hallucination isn't real and then when you're in this space you can see the hallucinations that are being generated by a mind. So he questions like all the near death experiences real and he's convinced that he is and he's all that they are and he's convinced that these things go back well into an ancient medical history. He talks about the ancient. Greeks speculating about this idea. You know the greeks had understandings of what plague was long before you know medicine actually accepting that. It was transmitted by bacteria transmitted by some type of pathogen before jim theory exactly exactly and he says this is kind of like what's happening with the near death. Experience now is that we are still in the infancy of medicine. We think we know what and we do. But this is like those ancient days of where we can kanda. Diskette little snippets of it but we can't fully see it. We can't see what's going on and this maybe in the future we will begin to understand the death experience. But there's just a couple of other tiles. I wanna just relate to you that a more anecdotes the don't really give us any evidence or proof of the death experience but at the same time do give some understanding so this is one story about a young man that was in hospital and his name. Was jack bobby now. He had severe pneumonia. He was twenty six years old and he was in south africa now. He said that he had this encounter with a nurse during his near death experience. He said he'd been taken very ill. He was on three to four weeks of oxygen oxygen tent and double pneumonia took over and he says he really was understanding that he was on his way out but he says he ended up building. This kind of friendship with this nurse just conflict with a little bit. That was in the hospital and she'd come in and and floppies pillows and even though he's in a really bad way he was just still being. You know this this young man and he says that one day he flatlined like that was just that was just he was. He was definitely going. Hey new somehow that he was gone but while he was on the other side doesn't say where he was but he was on the side and he was still lying in this astral bed of some kind like it was still kinda like he was in another space but he's bed had come with him. It was still connect him back to my bed. Comes with me at the hospital bed. And but while he's there in this space apparently this nurse walks in like into this astral and she comes and fluffs pillows again which she always did and he's like what are you doing here. And she's like. I've come to love your pillars. Of course. i'm more to make sure that you're right. But jack you must return you have to go back is that what do you mean. Go back like what you say. It's like tell my parents that. I'm sorry that i wrecked the sports car and tell them that i loved them and he's like what's an he says is bad he finds himself back in the hospital. But weeks have gone poss- he's being unconscious for weeks now while he's he's out of it a lot's happened around him and this new nurse walks in after he wakes up and this new nurse comes up to him and he says aw he's like west west the other nurse in your slight. She was there and this. This universe is burst into teas and she fled. The ward is like that's that's really strange now. He finds out that this new nurse was actually friends with the nurse who had been attending to him. They later found out the reason why she was so. Upset is because the other nurse that have been attending to him she days. She's dead wall that coming. Just after he had flatlined she had been given a birthday present by parents. Which was this new red sports car. She jumped into the car and excitement. Rice down the highway lost it on the slopes and heated concrete telephone pole. She died around the time that he had flatlined. My gosh he had no. I just bought her a brand new twelve hundred caddy or a fine with no experience at all. Yeah and this is the thing and like he had no way of knowing he had no ab knowing that she'd pasta and yet he was able to rely information including tell my parents. I'm sorry about crushing the sports car. I just for me and you know for grace centers. Well this is evidence that there is some transfer at the very least if it's not a near death experience all telepathy. It's the transfer of some type of knowledge and what is like withdrew maine's that is not known to humans. And so where is that coming from. What is that. I actually think it's a very logical perspective. It probably is like a spiritual connection. I wonder if that lady's just kind of hung around like she didn't move on. She didn't go anywhere else. She just round two white to tell him to say sorry about this. Like she's so embarrassed about it. That's a distinct possibility. Gonna then. That's something that. I've seen a number of near death experiences. Which then you're how saying how things tying together it ties in with haunting for example so there are some anecdotal reports that This is coming from mediums and people that claim that connect with people that have pasta is that they want to communicate with their loved ones. Because i've died. In some circumstances again highly emotive sudden deaths that occur and what was happening is that They basically find rarely find ways to communicate by people that are actually dead but are coming back so this is where the near death experience ties in and the reasons why it's more likely funnily enough if you look at the data it's more commonly occurring in medical settings because you've got people like in this case a nurse who's working in a medical setting with someone who is a the very close to that that threshold the able to communicate through them make sense. Yeah it's it's fascinating in that in that regard because you would think that would be able to communicate with anyone but no it seems like there has to be a knowledge of them getting close to that barrier before they come back not all the time but sometimes know one of the things that comes up with the arguments against the knee death experience and it being a hallucination or a problem with the brian is that through. Grayson's research It got to a point where he was working in a cardiac would and as i was saying before he got a lot of data from some of the cardiac woods but then later on he found these research kind of change that when he was talking to people no one was recalling anything like out all night Had no recollection of and this is where the idea that maybe when they say that. The brain plays a role in near death. Experience like biology plays role. It really does like it actually plays a role because the brain is still filter. It doesn't make the experience any lists spiritual but the is it makes sense. We're still human beings was still flesh and blood. There still is a mechanic who component to it but not the way that the skeptics make you believe so for example. A lot of the skeptic's well This is generated by the brain. And it's because they're on drugs right and so grayson starts dealing with these patients in these cardiac worlds and none of them are able to recall anything and he finds out later on that with these patients. New drug was starting to be used with them. This new drug was coleman dazzling and with this drug what it was doing. It had a amnesia nightmare dossier. Yeah it was like it's it's obviously commercial name Or its brand name but it had an amnesiac affect so what are doing. Is that when people came into the near death. Experience it was actually blocking Those parts of the brain. That would be able to recall it. So there's still a physical aspect to the near death experience because then it would make sense though because if the brain is a filter you need to have those pathways there so that it can be filtered through the information conveyed. It makes sense throughout conscious. Reality so i thought that was really fascinating but back to this one you know one of the law stories. I wanna tell you it relates to bobber langa. Now barbara lang. Had this really intriguing. A near death experience after she had a car crash at twenty three now. She was recuperating from hepatitis at home and should come to know this young couple and the couple david and christine now. She became close friends with christine very quickly because christine was caring for as she was recovering from this hepatitis. I don't know if it was. Asean it's probably milwaukee to be the sounds of it not that it really matters but She said it goes to the point where she and chris she was feeling well. Enough one day. The bobber and christine. We're gonna take this christine seek white cat to the vet and he said it was the sunny tuesday afternoon though driving david's car into town and that would just talking about an upcoming concert and she was holding the cat now. The cat's name was nasty. Which gives us some in the side effect of what was going to happen. And she said. Suddenly nasty wriggled free. he jumped onto christine's. I'm began climbing up a neck and attacking and right. She pushed him off classic nas exactly as she pushed him off but she tried to reach over to get him off her and she says a loss thing that she remembers. Is this crash now. She doesn't know what happens but all she knows is that apparently the costs smash into the back of school bus. That was waiting and both of them went through the windshield. That's how did nasty goes through the windshield nasty cold. So yeah they both went through the windshield and she was unconscious for almost a week. She had no knowledge of water taking place now. She says that when she woke up there was still gloss and a hand and it was. It was terrible but she says when she was trying to recall the last thing she could remember. The lossing sure member was that she was hurtling through this doc and vast universe this tremendous speed it was just like warp speed that she was flying through this universe but despite you know thinking you might feel distressed about she said i just felt calm i was detached and i was still little be interested it might trip it was called is where am i going at the speed of light so even foster this is great she said i found myself blissfully alone in this green meadow it was in the window and she said it was this valley surrounded by rounded greenhills the no these beautiful wild flowers flowers everywhere hmos this meta obviously the astral medal ex exactly but said there was a stream there. She says she remembers the carlos would beautiful and intense and the atmosphere was a the'real and she said she just had this feeling this pervading feeling of pace and love that was just uplifting and in all the new death experiences the had looked into one repeating that he gets from paypal is that they say that they can see the the Flowers like as being in the us being brought in anything but they say it's not actually like the way that we see. Call the reason why we see different colors. Yeah well it's not it's like you're right. They all different calls on the cop described him. But when you and. I look at collars. Because it's what's being reflected in the wavelengths yet right so they say that that it's not a reflection it's like they're seeing the inau glow the ina whatever. It is of these these flowers. It's very very different. And very beautiful and very comforting but as she finds itself in this metro and she's like walking down this path. She says all of a sudden she realizes next to her wearing the same blue jeans that she put on. That day was christine both walking down this pathway side by side. They both said that they will know. She says that they both looked serene and beautiful but she had no idea how they were both there now. She says as they're walking down this path and she's just taking moment ago where hallway. She says soon the pathway splits it goes into different directions and she said somehow we both knew this is a place where we'd have to pot and go separate ways but we were both very calm and communicate without words christine telepathically auspey to make sure that. I told david that she would love him forever. And that's when she took the path to the right. And i took the path to the left and she says it was unclear as to whether these pathways would lead us. There was no conscious decision on our part to do what we did. But it was just clear which you know. H why we needed to get. She said we potted with a shared understanding. That will be together again one day but that will be later now. I have to return somewhere now. She said this pop before she realized instantaneously. Let back to a physical body. And this is when she recalls regaining consciousness and being in hospital window gloss and a hand in in a face and gashing a full head. It was so bad. This is how the this experience is. Because she couldn't recognize her face. She could still recall this experience that she had now alternately. A friend comes to the hospital. They didn't want to tell her. About what attack in place. But you can already tell what's going to happen. Once she had recovered enough they hander. Newspaper article about the accident and this is where she learned about the death of christine on that day when that's smashed into the back of his boss christine had died at the scene of the crash but she had been taken to hospital not being expected to live and she had flatlined at one point so it was like this path. Is this strange metaphor in this. In between space of where they're going to go and the fact that she said tell david. I love him. Imposs- on that knowledge issue new. It's it's lack the story about the nurse. It's like someone conveying information. Because i know that they're going somewhere else but the person who's having the near death experience isn't granted full access to the knowledge of what's going on to be recur thing even though this pace and confident the comes from these things the not entirely able to understand make sense of their experience until much lighter even then after talking to people like dr bruce grayson. Who's a psychiatrist. They still can't fully remedy would is witnessing a very important character of that story. Though that what happened to nasty that's not included in the story that that isn't nasi didn't reincarnate till go down the cat path. Not that i'm aware of that was nasty. Just on the back of the vehicle they ran into we'll just going around around on the wheel probably just becomes literally spectral cats that just starts attacking guy. Why when in the astral. Maybe that's one of these low level entities that shows up but there's actually tell you. The story comes from al sullivan and alston particularly intriguing. Because he has a connection with your loved ones but again it's this transformative experience that completely changes life in a much better way but it gives you some insight into what being this other spaces so l. is fifty six year old truck driver and he'd been involved in some some terrible accident and he says when he went through the experience On it wasn't an accident. I'm sorry it had bypass surgery. All of a sudden he'd had a heart attack and he needed to have bought pa surgery and so when he had this. This surgery He says that he found himself floating out above his body and he was like looking down and he said he could see the surgeon in this room and what this surgeon was doing the surgeon or placed both his hands on his chest and he was doing a chicken dance and this like flapping his wings and al was won't atoms bodies like what the hell is this surgeon doing we as new like throwing his arms around and like this is crazy but as soon as he's thinking this is crazy. He said he suddenly finds himself back in this place. And it's like this euphoric of like metro. Space everything's beautiful. He sees his mother. He sees all the people that are two potted. It's very comforting thing and one thing. That's tall twin. Though which is really hard is that apparently one of the beings that is there in this other space system. All there's a boy that lives down the road from you. You need to go to his parents and tell him that they have cancer. And he's tells grace and he's like. I just can't do that. How do i explain to them. That little guy had any death experience out on my body. And i was told that your child has cancer. It's not something i can do. But where some of the the truth comes through in this letter on and gives them a maybe a little bit of vertical understanding us to the near death. Experience is that dr grayson after he he is description of the surgeon flapping his arms like wings. He says i talk to you. Surgeon and this also. Yeah that's fun. And so this surgeon ends up talking to grayson. And dr bruce carlson and he goes. Why are you doing that. Apparently the surgeon taken aback. So how did you know that. how did you know. We'll your patient told me. And this guy who's japanese is insistent. He's like there is no way he could have known that he was completely unconscious. He was the ties he had his. Is tom and the do that. So the is don't dry out so there's no way he could have seen it and the other thing that al sore and the surgery is that he sold. I'm working on his leg and like why working on my leg. And he found it later on this because our tacking positives vein in his leg to use his chest which he wouldn't have known but this surgeon admits that he's like well. What i do is habit that i formed that. So i'd aren't Get antibacterial ernie infectious agents on my hands at all after i've scrubbed in i've got the sterile gown purposely place my hands on my chest and then i point with what i have to do with my elbows. Get to tell them what to do. I thought he was going to be doing. The macarena gotta sounds like that doesn't know the chicken debts is like no he's like no one knows. This is the only people that know this. The other surgeons and nurses that i work with. And there's no way that that would tell this to patient and the such an obscure would and it's rare as well. It's a very personalized. Tried to take place. And so you know bruce grayson awesome and says well why. Why would you do that. And he's like look. I don i like. It's just it's just what i do. He says well. What do you think about this. That apparently the guy just shrugs he's like i'm a buddhist everything doesn't have to make sense to us. It's a guy he told me flapping my arms and he was out of body cool. So i think in a way for for grayson it was also this comfort that it's such a huge taboo and more people do have experiences the not even let on and i just kind of take it as well. This is natural. Do the kid down the road donald cancer. That's never revealed. Unfortunately if he would as if you'd have this amazing experience and then nocco tell the parents. The kid has cancer. Who cares how we looks. I guess it's just that traumatizing to some people that maybe they don't wanna be and this is the problem because it does have a taboo attached to it. They don't want to go and obviously embarrassed. Guess that kid just has to die. reasoning that includes like and there was one of the story that i won't go into great detail but what i was really fascinated about. Is that this guy who had also at the guy who suffered from a car accident something a sudden flat lining and some people have life reviews but so much have a lot of you as he found himself back in a previous point of his lifetime where he was kind of happy and he says he was stating in his backyard at a barbecue and at the time. He didn't know that the mosquitoes around but he could actually see multifaceted elements of what was going on from. What the vision of every single mosquito insects that was in the yard he could he the thoughts of every single person around him and it was giving him this knowledge about how other people felt and they were thinking and why people did the things that they did and the pathologies in their thinking and it actually transformed him in a way because then he understood because people do things we all do things but we heard others and we don't do it on purpose but we do it through earn the way that will be molded throughout. You know pathology and it happens. We've all issues at some point with something that's happened in allies and there are points where we go. I don't know why i did that. But apparently in the near death experience this is something that there's this understanding conveyed so you'd have all these problems with these parents and those and that was somehow result there. All the people like this woman. That was repeatedly abused by mother. And when she had a need to experience she found herself back being a little child and encased in this bubble and what happened was that when she was in case in this bubble said this force came around her and kind of encapsulated her to halt her theoretically together as she vibrated so strongly because all of a sudden she was getting all this emotional overload of understanding. Why mother abused her and it was like this near death. Experience kind of held her together in this state to perform this type of repair and allowed her to not forget and not rekindle but at least forgive what had happened to her mother which psychologically released her from the pressures that she'd been through so as much as you would think the death experience has a transformative effect and giving people an understanding that there is life after death. It's much more than that. It's actually about helping people to just leave the best way that they can in this existence. Because what's really important and this is clear from the new death experience that every existence is important. And it's not your time to go until it's your time to go and that's abundantly clear and that's why each and every single life seemingly from these experiences you have to go through something you have to live up as it were to go into next existence and if you don't it seems like this will play over and over again so ties him with commerce. While in the concepts of reincarnation so. I thoroughly enjoyed this book. It's after. It's by dr bruce grayson all linked to it in the show notes. Mysterious invest awesome can pick it out for yourself There's actually audiobook version as well. I believe so. Yeah m- actually check it out because you know someone who was very very very fundamentally important to the field of near death experience research and i just loved it. You ready to raise the bar on this episode magical flesh. Lots of occult pal. I must say Forgive them. I am dying to hear that well. This is Connected to the story of. Pascal beverly randolph. Who just basically set his story up before we go into plus extension It's amazing because this guy can be credited with basically starting western sex metric right and that's why on the cover of the book This sex magicians. By michael william west. He's basically put Pascal right at the top pascal randolph has wrought at the top of this all these portraits of individuals. He he writes about. And it's really a collection of these mini biographies but to put his story in a nutshell. We'll go into more detail in the extension coming up. But this guy. Like i said at the start of the show just rose against all odds born october eighth eighteen twenty five in abject poverty. He was born on seventy canal street in the famous. Five points slum in lower manhattan. It spin demolished for decades. but today it's basically where The western parts of chinatown. Ah in new york city. He's mother was a bomb eight floor o'clock and the neighborhood as again as i said was known internationally for extreme levels of destitution like It's been said. It had the highest murder rate of any place in human history. Which i find hard to believe. But that's ninety one of the claims character building and The social context of this place was ravaged by disease and the context for randolph was especially important because there was this constant off. A battle is violent battle between the irish immigrants and the black-americans saw i had heard that. Yeah and you know the are should add fled from the the potato those just outright like gang warfare and it's an important context because of his background so he's mother's ancestry was english german naive american and malagasy so he was basically one eighth african and in the time period. He'd be known as an octa room. That's the term. They used He's father was never around a completely off the same. Nah bicycling never met the guy. And it's just like he was another illegitimate child to this woman And was she was left alone to raise him among the brothels and gregory's of the most dangerous place on the planet or in america at least End life didn't improve for the kid off to. He was born because at the age of six. I think it was. He's mother smallpox. Oh how awful and she was placed in the notorious bellevue hospital which was overrun with patients from the cholera epidemic. Which was going on at the time that she's not she. She died pretty quickly But randolph had to stay in the hospital and basically what should i because he's only parent about trauma but it was while he was in the hospital that he started to communicate with ghosts. He claimed that the attic room with children's slept Spirits would make the sounds of cannonballs rolling across the floor like sometimes something to do with the the revolution all the war And he would say bedsheets whipped off children by some unseen force and strange footsteps and whispers in the night like this was the start of him having some ability to perceive these things and he's mother facing death. She became like a cirrus as well like she had these visions and she seemed to have this spiritual connection. Let's call it what we would destroying like tunnel. Lucidity is not one thing that happens to people. Some people that are approaching. Death also develop actually consciously telepathy abilities and pre cognition similar bill. Now he's he's about nearly seven at this stage and he's kind of raised by. He's half sister harriet jennings but he basically starts working for a english actress and We say actress loosely call ends leaving actress. She was using him. As a bega to supplement her innings as a prostitute rice Again the fact that this guy got out of this situation to just get out of this poverty lead loan to stop a the sex magic mechanic in the west is is kind of amazing like i said. He taught himself to read just from looking at street signs and trying to copy them down whenever he could and he would practice writing Now because as he was growing up he was The one eighth black. He was just considered black. Yeah yep So it was obviously hard for him to have a career at the time period so he became a silo and apparently the silos will willing to take on man of any background because the work was just so dangerous so he basically Went on these voyages sailing from New bedford massachusetts to cuba and then to england Was basically a cabin boy. That was his job and this introduced him to new languages so clearly. The goes incredibly intelligent because he just kind of picked up french and he started to speak turkish arabic. Well as travels Gun introduced a new forms of spiritual spirituality as he toured around ports port towns of the east ironically becomes spiritual after speaking french. Actually but he eventually wanted to leave. The life is a sale sailor because it was a really hod was hard job He got injured and ended up. Moving to portland twenty. He started going to doing some real schooling and learning to become a bob or and letting the dying trade but he also picked up this passion for spiritualism and remember at the time spiritualism was kind of becoming this fat like You know we've always said that. Doing silences and believe paula games with spirits was incredibly popular and cool for the time. But this is what he did when he was twenty one. This is why you can see this guy clearly. Set himself apart most young men when they twenty one. Probably just wanna get drunk. And you have a party but when Randolph ten twenty one. Hey appointed himself super premium hierarchy of the brotherhood of euless and created his own magical order. I don't know if even had a drink. Day and west writes the wall. He would engage with a variety of occult and esoteric movements of his times. The brotherhood of euless necessarily a secret society was the platform from which randolph would teach his methods of maja sexual solo. Sex magic and the sexualised is what we will go into after the break quite literally be going into it. That sorrel discuss. I is an outright plus extension. If you want to sign up head to mysterious universal org forward slash plus all the details day you get access to the biggest engines we do on these shows every single friday and an exclusive show. The comes out every single tuesday as well. You also get a higher audio quality version of the shy possum get the highest bit rate. We put out for an mp threes. 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The Church of Satan & Ghost/UFO Stories

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Toops we appreciate you guys being on here for the third time and next to who gave you the welcome back is our very special guest Gabriella. Gabriella, it's great to have you on the show Rick's great to have you on the show. And James, always a pleasure along with your better half. Sit next to you. We appreciate that Daniel that you're here with us. What what? I asked Louis. Thank you for having me. So we are looking forward to some great stories once again, and so we're going to try and do this apparently. We've been having some issues with the Internet and we've never had him this bet, have we rick? Never like telling Jane's logo. I said this as long as we've been doing this. This is the first time I've ever seen this happen I mean it's it's really bad and I and I can't say if it's because of our topic. Or what but if you haven't seen what our topic is, please check it out. It's Going to be an interesting show and by the way if you hear any weird moaning sounds in the background, it is holly my dog. My little monkey scratching her back on the chair making all these moaning noises. So she's pretty to I. Wish you guys can see her oh, they've seen her. You've seen her. For some reason I don't know why we've been having these glitches in our show, but I hope this this last time that it will happen. You know what I hope so too, gibbs this is just crazy. So anyway, I went into control of my own Internet and put it on a hot spot on my phone. So it's going to be kind of A. Not. Quite as good as I normally have a better than what we've had tonight I hope at least I'm really hoping. So gentlemen should we continue with Gabriel? It's topic. and. Then we'll get into hours in just a little bit. Definitely Guess Third Times journalist. Gaby the floors years once again. So let's see. What you got to tell us. There's a few wilders about like start at the beginning of. The Year Fo. About the UFL I guys, this is the third time. I hope this is the less than because. She's over here. So Ville your stress and. So. Your. About three years ago. When I was. Four years old on the Fulton Street on our Old House me and my dad once again on the porch looking up into the night sky. We saw this light it was. A bright blue collar. Real like the light as course. Of course, the light is blue. So that's how the color was the light current looking up my blue light up in the ceiling. So. Like that was like that. So my dad was booked Gabriella. Ananias like. I was like daddy what is that and it was like I know the like Blue Pyramid, the shape of. Egypt pyramid. Triangle. So like the pyramid was really really. Small and it was blue. It was like like, right there's just standing right? There is so. I showed my mom and I was like Mommy and then he was like, what did I shoulder choose like? Oh my God. and. Then before Dan. Right there I wanNA came back out and was just gone. He was like right there then. To the night sky in this thing took off really fast. It was like what stained still and then it took off. Yeah, it took. took off the really really fast by then when I went inside and he came back with us on. Well and how fast did it take off like you know like? a race car racecar. That's fast. It went. It would standing still and then just shut off real quick. Wow. So I think she saw one of the triangles. You. Didn't make any noise. It was like. Like A siren nor is that a the needle knowing split louder almost home neighborhood could hear it. And then you had a ghost story that you're telling me. Go story will be included in five four. Three. Two. One. So Me and my mom wants to go eat somewhere. and. We decided to go to the steakhouse. So we went there and we got off the car and went site. We sat down at the table on the lady this Li Like A. Come out with their hair like this in a big pointy till you know how those ladies at the Bun because you know she was GonNa Service and she didn't want to give her hair dirty. So. She left left us off with a warning. She said excuse me folks come. This steakhouses very haunted. I just wanted to warn you because there's been a lot of paranormal activity going on here and You know there's it's just really haunted I just wanted to live you off with a warning and. Gabby I think have we heard this story before Phillips No. I haven't heard. This were making a funny because you know this is the third time you've had to tell. Mike. Maybe. She's doing a good job is. So after that or just lady. Her she had like Lug dripping on her is like hard hard. I don't like software. They like tears tears of blood hard crying a card blood tears coming down. and. Her her head. Out of nowhere her head on like this turned around, her body was not even moving just helical her her head turned around all the way. Al Yeah I am not kidding. So after that was like Mommy Mommy Mommy. What now I told her about the leading. All, my God Gabriella, we need to leave right now that lady was rights stone we left and she said we're never going to go back to one hundred steakhouse again. That's crazy. And did you have any other encounters with? Spirits or ghosts there's actually one more than I had on my newest house. It's my grandma's how she's. She's at my grandma's my grandma is actually here. How can Eighty my grandma, she's eighty years old and she's here at this house right now in Floresville. She and I think she's asleep right now. Oh yeah, she's asleep. So she her name is. Mrs. Rodriguez and. She's Asleep right now, I just wanted to include her on this because she has. She she's very sick and I'm just hoping that she gets better. So. About. Like One stay yeah. Wednesday always at my grandma's house. Me and my mom were sitting down watching a scary movie was called Trigger Tree I. Think you guys have seen that movie it was a trick or treat like this boy like little boys. He was like a demon I don't think he was a human I think I think you've heard it if you have you heard of just A comment on there about the movie you know. So let's get started with this four. Okay, let's get started as well. We we have been sitting down on the couch and we were watching a movie called trick or treat. So. I was there her House walking moving. Begging on the Wallich really hard. And I was like I was like that I was like. An. The, there is something. Something like that. I was it was like hard banging on the on the table or wherever it was coming from. I decided it sound like it was coming from all around you. It sound like it's electoral stuff in my head but unfortunately I don't think there was. So I went and to the bathroom I took the whole house. But I'M NOT GONNA I'm not GonNa say the whole house because it's GonNa blow my how my grandma's house is very big. So I'M NOT GONNA I'M GONNA skip that part. And I'm just GONNA. I'M GONNA go to the part about the ghost. So there was like this ghost little girl she was like. Staring at me staring at me and then she was like this. Just. Giving you some like A. A giving you the eye and waving. She's she didn't even know how to wages like this. kind of like limp-wristed kind of half wave half not yes. So we're wasn't agent. Were about the bath will was skipping that part about the house. So. I went upstairs to my room. And my room was all pink like all pink and I wouldn't say I'm a room and there was it was coming for my wrong. It was coming from my room. What did you see? grouse house was not even haunted book I saw like this little grocers like this. And what did you do? So you. So. You kind of freaked out for a little bit. A WHO's running upstairs super fast and What's wrong and she thought that I was hers something knows like. There was a there was a girl and she's like what girl smell even haunted now she's like. DIARRHEOA. What's going on and you said there is there's actually Like this and We were like running downstairs and she called the police usually hello sir, we got a girl's ghost girl in my daughter's room. Can you please come on very, very scared? Out that sounds creepy. It's like so bad. It does it sounds creepy everybody this. Gabriella da she's my niece. He's eight years old and she wanted to tell us some of her go stories and ufo counters Gabriella. Thank you so much for being on the show and we actually made it through without you having to repeat it for the fourth type. Okay everybody. Adult time. So I'm not I'm with you guys and I'm going to step out. By. Gabriele Gabrielle. Real good job. Job. My All right. So. You did him phenomenal job talking about her huntings in her UFO's and this was her first time on radio and live broadcasts which? I think she did pretty good. Not Camera shy much phone. Did she's She's good years old eight years old. Wow. She's good. Yeah. I think she's going to be having. Time on radio. Catcher. Rick said I was cleaning mud when I was eight years old. And stuff on cable. Is, one of the best. Case so back. On their. Regular topic which we were actually discussing today Rick I'm GonNa let you bring this in because this was all your idea and probably the reason why we're having such Internet problem tonight and having to Redo this thing so much. That myself I really was when everything started. No doubt. But our topic tonight Starting out as colts and what they are in who they are and why they are and everything else like that. I called James Not called Eddie earlier this week and I was going through my topic story and I, come up on this one topic that just blew my mind. Here, in bold print and and full color wasn't ad for the Satanic Temple in San Antonio Texas and they are offering senior high school students scholarships at the amount of six, thousand, six, hundred and sixty dollars. Wow. Now, this is coming into this is coming in. Live and real all across America now there I started doing some studying on this temple and I contacted one the gentleman down there and He said Yeah come on by. There will be free. We'd be glad to talk with you and and he wanted if I wanted if I. Was In school and all of a sudden good stuff and I told them now but be that is may it just flabbergasted me? That this is so prevalent in this time and age because I never thought everything like that. When I was growing up was taboo. I mean you didn't talk about it. You did knew it was a whispered conversation with the adults even if it was brought up. And I. Have you know? I have I don't know what say you know except that I hope we can get some. Feedback on this and see exactly where we can go and what we WANNA do this subject. What do you think about that James? I mean is this is Something everybody's I'll I wouldn't say. Scared of but it's something that. Raises Questions and It'd be a great topic and a great. Interaction. You know You just have to protect and totally not unbiased. You can't go into a place like that and with your beliefs that are so strong and and. Ultimately condemned somebody else's dried. So you'd have to go with an open mind but also protected you know. What it is something that says, Taboo. Very awkward like people don't like to talk about this kind of stuff. You know it's really awkward in as they go and make for a great content You know is better for sit on the couch and watch this stuff on TV versus go out and do this themselves right in a spurious at first hand, you know You know all failed video. You know I think it'd be real interesting change rates. I'm sorry. Go ahead. It's GonNa. Be One of the sins it's really gonna be hard to be unbiased especially being brought up in a Christian while in our case Catholic. Homes or even Christian homes and to step into something that's completely out of the normal and not. I mean it's heard of, but it's not heard of like any kind of Christianity or anything like that. You know it's something completely unknown. You know being brought up Catholic and something that you kind of. We even though you're taught not to judge your, you know at something Bonnin trying to go and completely unbiased it's going to be absolutely hard today. The thing is is is completely unknown, but it's also completely taboo. It's not something we reach out and wants to know right is something in the back of your mind that you know is there right? Man You, know these these people are out here. But let me think about something else. You don't really think about that right and then once it's presented to you in your face, you're Kinda like. Shit here it is. Though now will you know and? It's it's something to talk about this subject. You know I think it's a great subject to talk about you know and it's A. You gotTA. Remember I'm like you guys I come from a Catholic background Catholic family. But at the same time I mean, we have to understand that this is. Not something out of the ordinary considering all the crazy stuff that's going on nowadays this is actually probably one of the most sane parts. And? Extreme saying that. But this is one of the most sane things that's taking place considering everything else that's going on nowadays I think it'd be a great idea if we can somehow secure a date and time to get out there and and go do an interview and talk about their scholarships and what they're offering and more or less learn a little bit about what they do. They're more than anything else and we we'll have to keep an open mind. We can't let any prejudice or anything like that of this type of topic get in the way what we're actually trying to accomplish and. Not. Only that but I mean, these are their beliefs. You know we have to respect it no matter what we may think of it personally. You don't just. An atheist just because you don't just become a Christian just because you don't just become a Catholic just because the Protestant baptist Muslim or whatever else. You know these are things. You know? People. You know truly believe in. Half eighth in. And we need to keep that in mind when we're interviewing and we're talking to these people because this is not for us to judge this is for them to give the information so that you know whatever they WanNa talk about whatever they'd like to spread. It's hard as their church their belief system. The. You know the scholarships and whatnot. and. We can take that information and put it on the show and get it out. There may be people out there who are interested in this may want that scholarship you never know, and if it helps them get an education and learn why not. What I did learn so. What what I did learn about this you guys is the fact that they are under. This is a very, very, well oiled machine. So to speak, they are in twenty one different locations throughout the United States and they are abroad to. The there in Australia there in England they're all over the place. You know so it it doesn't. It doesn't take too much of a stretch of the mind to realize that these people are very organized. I notice I put down colt tonight as part of a subject. We could look at this as a cult because we're looking at. It says definition of a cold as a system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object. Well, that could be that could actually be Christianity. Catholicism you know Buddhism. Whatever the case maybe. Now we do. A religion though. Thing. So religion cult is two different things. Yeah we do have. On And Travis welcome to the show man I'm glad you made it on. He says you guys are coming in great in Dallas. Texas Mr. Eddie Mr Rick and Mr James and your beautiful lady beside you Sir Eddie. Your niece was good to love yells topic God. Bless all of you y'all and hey, travis man we appreciate it and we love it that you're on the show we love that you jump in here and make comments. Thank you so much for being with us. We appreciate it so much. All we ask is if you could just share it out to your pages and just you know that way we can be known even more the more the Merrier in the more people in the conversation and in the chat room the better. So if you don't mind shared out to your pay shared out to your friends pages. Just get us out there so that we can have more people on and we can all have great conversation and listen to different. Different thoughts on different subjects I mean, it's always great. We're always open minded and ready to learn. So we appreciate you being here with US sir. Thank you so much. Yeah in you know it's you know. So any type of religious deal like Buddhism or what have you could all be? Occult. If you want to get technical with that. That is true. Yes. Yes. I also found interesting that. This organization the Satanic Temple. Is under the hospice of what's called a five Oh one C. three meaning that they do not pay taxes. They are treated just like any other religious organization and act upon such things as donations and everything else just like a regular church. That the people that I talked to I talked to them. It wasn't something flippant wasn't something. They were serious. They wanted to know where I was from what I was interested in. We're glad that you're here with us. We if you WANNA come and visit the temple you're welcome almost at any time. and. It's just like any other church only it it. James was talking about and what you said He. Is, a taboo subject in the end them. It's something that we have to look at because it is in our face right now as far as being real and something we at the look at as far as. What's happening to our young people and where we can go with this as far as it being a religious aspect. I agree. And I never know learn something me and me and Rick it's. Me and Ray talked earlier about this. I think they're past the point of cult. So call is your branch Davidian type people you know that Wacko in Waco. That's a call right you got. You got a solidified of people. You know whether it's one hundred, two hundred people in a localized location, right? So that's a call when you have. This this is the deal. These people are serious and their branched out there all over the place they're nationwide they're pretty much worldwide it is. Is Religion and you know these folks don't pay taxes. Just like you know Catholic Church and stuff like that. So in new drive you to do in any prophecy from they don't they don't pay taxes on this stuff anything they purchase they won't see taxes off of it. So they are solidify add religion And said. To Act really questioned. So you go up to do an interview with these folks You'd have to approach it just like you would go into a Baptist church just like you would go into a Catholic establishment anything like that. You cannot discriminate against these folks because their beliefs in this thing absolutely guardless with their beliefs are right and but you ought to be wary of what you're stepping into because you know us being paranormal investigators in doing this type of stuff the one thing that always in the back of our mind during an investigation. We always think it says it will also it We always say. You know Sultan on tape it'd be pretty cool. You know well, this we are stepping into around of evil and. Ricky off we get in there and we're like man something flies across the room and makes a dirty noise with it. You know Nick Kinda cool to catch it on tape, but we are stepping into the realm of evil and as something to. Contend with is something to put your mind frame into. These folks are serious about what they do is they are I. I've done research on the groups out here. There is one in San Antonio this one out here in in Houston They don't they don't pose as of their locations and stuff like that. UNDERSTAND WHY? Because probably they don't want you know haters and people coming in firebomb replace. I get it but you know then they're kinda secretive in their you know there about what they do and they're serious about it is this does nobody bulls is no joke. These people are serious about what they do and are they helping out the community? According to to the website yeah. They actually have a drive coming up is called ministration for Satan. and. That yesterday his. It's there get a they're donating you know feminine products. Tampons Shit like that pads, things like that. So there don't unused. Of course, they're donating these things out to the community. So they do some kind of a grasp on the you know. They're they're reaching out and trying to get involved with the community I get that. But what is the? What. Is the secrecy box? So any kind of it to me it kind of has the same amount of. Curiosity as the the masons. You. Know I'm just curious as the masons as of this because I have friends in the masons. And we don't discuss the batteries back I'll won't plus was a secret. I have the same. You know curiosity of the Masons as I do this. So it s one from one spectrum to the other beneficial Wednesday three organization they have to do some kind of good. Or some kind of they have to contribute some thing. ooh. Today area to the community. That's out there. By that's five. Oh, one C. three in be able to have their tax deductions and tax free as they not admits. Real take law this right here would be to go out get a feel for these folks interview them, and then get them to come on this. And then put their paw front of everybody else to see what they're all about in Enron on this show I, think that would be I think it'd be awesome and I also think it'd be awesome. A James. If we took a some camera equipment, we went over there and we did. A complete recording while we're there. Maybe. Take a walk through. Look around and then and then posted on here and I think that would I think that would Shed a little light onto what's going on and you never know we might be able to get in on some of their other dealings where we could get in and film and kind of show what they're all about I mean it it's the same with a like if you're dealing with Voodoo. You know and and that kind of a deal jumping into that realm and you have to go in with a open mind without any prejudice toward it and you know talk to him about what it is that they do and enter and you know and be genuine. You know we're not going to embellish or. Up Talk it or down talk you know we're just GONNA. You know this is what happened. This is what we saw. This is what what they told us and you know and you can see for yourself. Here's video. Here's audio on everything that took place I think that would be pretty cool. Guys. Here's what so. This is what he sent. Me back as far as what what they call the seven tenths of Satanic Temple and I read these and It's just like joining. You think you're signing up for the PTA. Let's. Let's come back. Come back on that. Let's go to take the. Let's take a quick little break real fast because I need to have that little intermittent in there for a podcast type stuff and we'll be right back folks and stand by. We're going to play a little tune for you. On. Non. Normal. Law. Nine. Five. Nine. Hello, and welcome back everybody. I'm your host Eddie Hill along with my other host, Rick Warren and James Tubes who is not at his desk. So. Sorry to. Cut You off there rick I to get this out there on halftime. But Yeah. Man continue on with what you were saying on on the application. I am like I said I was we're looking at a lot of things that was going on as far as what they subscribed to and everything. I'm just going to read a little bit of what was sent to me as part of the. Essay. So to speak as far as them speaking says, the organization participation in public affairs as manifested itself said several public political actions and efforts at lobbying with a focus on the separation of church and state and using satire against Christian privileges. It goes on to say that they because group regards the envelope. Whatever that word is the body is a key doctrine. They are against anything that might have an infringement on the rights of Satan is to practice their religion. And like I said, this is a very, well old machine as far as I mean, they had the attorneys they have the legalistic jargon they have everything they have the mission statement and everything else like that and I said it's like you are actually volunteering for the team to go in and talk these people that says the mission the mission Satanic Temple is to encourage benevolence and empathy among all people reject tyrannical authority advocate practical common sense oppose injustice, and undertake noble pursuits. Wow. So what does that sound like to you guys? Yeah Yeah. I mean, that is very the semantics on that is beautiful and I mean I it sounds like they had an attorney right all up of course but I mean I. It's I. Mean it sounds political. It's very well written and. There, you can tell right away that they're basically covering their their basis when they're whoever wrote, you know making sure everything was covered in there. which is what any business would do. Exactly yeah. They have seven tenants that they sent me and I'm sure you could probably go on the site and pick them up yourself but. I found it very interesting that they're seven tenths and like I said, if you read. The tenants themselves. Like I, say it's like. Or putting application out for the PTA or something like that and I don't know if you want to call it. You know subliminal as far as some of the words and what you're reading or if you WANNA call it a suggestive in the essence of how does it Line up with your own spiritual beliefs. Or what you want to call it as far as being a group or a cult or I mean to me, it's just like the church scientology. Or any other group like that that brings a format. Of. Exact exasperating. Measures to. For to become forward to your imagination or your mind, and from there they you're under the hospice of who their leaders are and who their teachers are at that time. Wow. I mean. You know in Scientology I've heard a lot about stuff about scientology. It's really strange as you hear more bad about scientology than you do about the Church of Satan, which is kind of crazy. Yeah, I was in Portland Oregon and I went to the Church of Scientology and went inside and talked to those people and actually held cones that they test you with as far as how you begin your appearance as a scientologist and how they. Actually look at you and test you to start your schooling and and you're basically it's a religion by Ron L. Hubbard. I ran from their says I could. Wow. Well, Tom Cruise is part of that. Oh Yeah. Yeah they are bid. Lear-. Leonora. She's in there too as it was she was she backed out and she exposed a lot of. I mean, that's crazy stuff. James, are you on that Satanic. Website because you turn red every once in awhile. I wondered. You do. Human I. AM So. Yeah, I just. Yeah. I. Did a water about that and You're looking pretty area. There is something it's something look at. I'm feeling kind of. You know. Um I presented this. Opportunity I was like shit since. Should I do this or what Kenny L. or? Read it let ten minutes or like yeah. Yeah you know I. Think it would be a bad ass opportunity to kind of dive into the taboo and. You know really out there with with this group because I mean, it's not like it's one or two places. It's everywhere they're all over the place in. The last thing I WANNA do is promote anything like does but you know like I said stay on bias in and I don't want. Roy. Today. would it be beneficial to do this kind of thing in go out and talk to these folks and maybe push money to the Bringing the edge to where they fall over and say, I was on offense and now I, think we should do this. You know I don't want to do this. So I'm thinking. What Put the information out but you know what? Jane suggest anything and this year Lee opinions to the to the people. You know what? James here's the thing you know. It's not like you're promoting people to go to this I. Mean people are adults, they make their own choices. All you're doing is putting out information as far as what's going on what they're doing, and it's a person's decision. What they do with themselves from that point forward. Exactly. You know we're not promoting. We're not saying it's bad. We're not saying it's good. We're saying look here's information that we found. You know if and and not only that, but you gotta remember this is A. Information into and into a world that a lot of people are terrified of. Air Literally terrified. Of this world are terrified of what could go on. You know you see so much Hollywood where you have people being sacrificed. You know you've got a Pentagram in you know evil spirits and demonic spirits and demons and what have you? Coming around. But is that necessarily the case? You know. Is that something that will this? Day displays. Or is. The whole point. Is. This more of yeah. I mean it's like a regular religion where like you go to church and you go home. You know it's something that you know your Belief Elsa just drives a strives around. This is adult. this was. Worried. About The. About is is You know putting out a broadcast or putting out a interview in kids not so much kids that that. Kamala Harris said she's like Oh kids between eighteen twenty or stupid. But these kids that are you know fifteen stuff like that on the fence these rebellious type you know kids you know, what are they cheat on say all hey, manish, it looks bad as. Demo the thing for me. You know that's the thing I'm concerned about adults you know twenty, five, thirty on up can go. Kind of weird I'm not now fuck that I ain't doing this. You know desk, the kind of thing. So you gotta kind of you know get in there and do a good clean interview non-bias. Put the facts out and disclaimer things i. think is a great opportunity to get in and if if we're allowed to to get in there and and really. Kinda dig in on what these people are about in a you know I mean it's a religion just like anything else according to them. It's a religion right and according to the law. So, we can't go in there and be like oh you guys are weird. We WanNa see what's about you guys we. Let me go in there and say, Hey. What are you about? Let me. Let me ask you this James Are you willing to put your name in a book when you sign in. What do you mean on a book? You have a dine in our. Guest No, not so so no I'm not. So if I go there and the entry fee is twenty, four dollars, I'll give them a twenty five dollar back. They can keep it for a tip I'm not accepting anything from these folks not at all the only thing. Is Footage. But what? You. have to sign a guestbook to get your foot in the door. That's what I'm asking. What happened assigned. Joe. Biden. My name is. In, does the name I'm going to sign right there. I can. Nancy Pelosi. You know. Joe Biden what do you think? Get an object. Subject too much. But one day I took sophie the pro bell when you go and you place an offer, they ask your name. Youngest one you seven. This guy gave his name as Hillary Clinton. Larry. Laugh time he did it and. Before we laughed us that Okay Ms Clinton have a good day. Not to get to deliver. A number four corruption side of collusion. We'll see them for the. Unie but here's what concerns me about doing this. We have four teenage than in our house you know as. We have more now we have four. Six kids. Four teenagers. Love everywhere man it's like clowns coming out of a Volkswagen beetles turned on a light of the crack house and all the roaches. But here. We go and we do this. We get this information and the kids know that were going to do this. See this post on Youtube Visit GonNa make family curious. Is it gonNA break them of their face that we've instilled. Good point in I think if we do a good complete thorough investigation and interview, then the any curiosity all the questions that they should have. We should ask in a thing that would put a period the end of all that stuff right there I think you know that would end all be all right there. If we we come correct when we do the right interview in the right investigation, I think. That'll that'll solve a lot of questions. But you realize. You know like I said, I'm sure there's a guestbook that's GONNA be signed. They're going to know where we're. Posting this. They're gonNA come over in they're going to see it and they're gonNa know who you are. You know they're I don't think there's really a way around it. As far as that goes yeah I don't think you're going to be any. That goes. Yeah, you know. I'm not. I'm not looking join up their their communication is hey, Well, we need you to join up with US and Blah. Blah Blah in order to do this then out. Out I'm not joining this place you know to do an interview and joining us. Take you broke up a little bit said, not not join but what if it's a guestbook? Just a guestbook. I think he froze on us. Who Else? Can you hear me now? You're you're they're kinda barely. Okay. So what do you think Eddie? Would you? Would you sign Agus Booker? You know we'll. Would you do? I would probably sign the guest book you know. Really but I think I would probably sign it while I was saying a prayer. A Cross sprinkle. SPRINKLE holy water on on my name while I'm signing me. Exactly. To give me some give me some more information on this group guys. This powerful and litigating these people are as far as with the state of Oklahoma and Arkansas okay they. Had The statue of I guess this is called by a human. HBO. Call. BECCA. Right. The statue has figured prominently in the challenges regarding the display of the Ten Commandments. They want their statue and they got their statue right beside the ten commandments in Oklahoma and Arkansas. In two, thousand, fourteen, they initiated a program called to protect children project. Now this is what these people are going after as far as on state litigation and everything else like that. They're into planned parenthood they're into. A Muslim refugee. Activities. Activities. and. Then they go into what they do as far as on the Pentagram ritual an after school for Satan as far as kids at want to study this after school. And that's what gets like. Summer School. Yes aiden school remaining you can. You can get online and literally. Tag. And they will start teaching your children after school while and this goes right along. This goes right along with what they're doing as far as on the six thousand, six, hundred, sixty dollar scholarship for whoever the senior T- teenagers. can qualify for it. So this is a powerful powerful entity in itself as far as what what we're looking at it as a group. That's insane. Interesting. Yeah Well. Objective I mean isn't in a into us saying to you know. Like you said normal it's a taboo is a taboo issue I mean this is stuff that. We. Are Not used to her accustomed to. So therefore, it's insane. It doesn't mean that. RIOTS INSANE TO EVERYBODY You know it's just like these guys that married their dolls. You know and have their sex dollars wife I mean. I mean, how? How insane is that? A. On comprehensible to us. As for him weird. It's just weird. Weird to them it's just on darcom. Goals. I'm aware that. It's not. It's beyond our comprehension but I mean, you know little becker anything you know they. They can't do. This is our you cook anything either but hey, don't talk back. Get your audience Rick what I was telling you about today about this. She's GonNa kill me with this cross trade here rig You're talking about this today Yeah Yeah Yeah. This is the cross I was telling you about and it's really hard to see but it all right here. This is difficult to hold new song from here to here is that black residue I was telling you about. So ahead, this cross came from my grandma in she passed away last year in This is across it's made in Italy it's got a metal outside to end just the inside would the dark area you see right? There is the dark stuff that's would. laying counter among bar in the house in a log, pass it, and there was a puddle about. Probably. That hard. It's hard put. But about that big around of black stuff bleeding out of this cross there was nothing around there on the hell out of it. The only thing the only thing I didn't do take a picture of the actual puddle From this cross in the style on the side is this is the residue from winona backwards from here to here is residue that dark spot right there. New from this cross, it was bleeding and it was really strange to me in a up in wiped it all down stuff like that in a put this thing on the bed on my nightstand and I didn't think anything of it. Until they. Several minutes later, I should've took a picture that shit. Black puddle. It will a little thicker than water but it was it was thicker than water. But not as bad as syrup you should have had that analyzed. It was really. I should've been probably still can because there's residue aside I'm looking at it right now there's still residue in a this thing at the time when that happened, my son was in the hospital, he had just had a seizure I know that you guys don't know this must has. In Atlanta's malformation in the west side of his brain. In December last year, he had gamma knife radiation to treat a avium. So, he had just had a seizure he was in the hospital when this happened and I was at the hospital with him while I came home for a night and. Smears on the counter. We have. Granite countertops. NASA, smear on the counter I asked him what was in the told me what was going on with it I, finished cleaning and even on the Lysol white it was really. A thing. Dark round almost. Like A. Weird like a resin from. I don't even know from what like like a resident than and. But it was. Sticky not not liking. Not Quite as not quite. Theresa, but it was just In Dark Brown and I asked him what it was about and he told me and then like meat. So when we told Kristen about it. that. A bleeding cross is a sign that God is in your head that you have good spirits in your house because signal. The only thing is maybe it was a sign that my son was going to be okay and thankfully he is you know he has had any stages so I don't know fucking show you much detail on this thing but looking at this crossman is down here that right there. That's. right there. Well, you know there there's other things on the back. This crosses over one hundred years old. And middle on the outside, this is all metal. The inside is would. Probably all. It's probably. Kathleen. Yeah, and this is the one sort of bleeding on the counter in its heaviest. It's probably a half a pound and it's really small. I mean just you can see it I'd like to. I'd like to get really Dr Analyzed James. I probably should in the skull and crossbones saying kind of throws me off. You know it's right here on the bottom, right it's hard to take. But still get that analyzed. That would say that would say a lot I. think we I think we should try and get that analyze because that is something that I feel is very important that we do to to make that happen to to get it down life so that we know exactly what it was that was coming out of that cross and. I know to big along in our show with the back and forth with the Internet problems, but the hour has gone by. And we are done. Yep It went quick once once the Internet started working. So the final March I can. I can tell you about this thing. I'm sorry try again, Rick. I say they're so much more that information that I've got on this church and on the practices of this church and it's just interesting you wouldn't believe it. Well we'll. Go. into the final thought earning do we? And we'll we'll. Well on time to hang up or what? Well we're a little bit on a timeframe right now and we're like way over because this is the third time that we've gone over it. But. We can go a little bit longer. You WanNa. Go a little bit longer rick and finished getting out got. Sure. Okay. Sure. This. Church has been compared to Anton Levay I wonder if you guys I'm James I'm sure you know who he is and this is a French ron or Yes? Exactly. And they're button heads as Moore's what's going on with the principles of WHO and want the churches to be and what it represents and Tom says that they are miles away from being the exact. Mess. This church is masquerading satanist and do not represent satanism. But yet they're under the same hospice of his church. And operating under the same five. Oh, one C. Three. Chapter. Of being religion. So there's a lot. There's a little infighting there as to who has control of this. It's a big big conglomerate of people and legalistic everything is going on with this church and everything. So. It is something that I mean I find intriguing because I've studied. Religion when I was in college all the way from mormonism to Catholicism to Hinduism Zane. Buddha. and. This was one topic that I steered clear because like what you guys say it was new I could get anybody to talk to me about it. I couldn't get any information back Ma'am bucket martyr we had the card library and that was about it. You know you went to the library you looked up and that was my Yeah that was my google. Right. I remember those days same way. Yeah Yeah but. I think Anton Levay I. Think He. Okay. So I think he bible the Satanic Bible it's not nearly as thick as the actual Bible but he got a lot of his information and he correlated with Kotik which was the is the Satanic. The medieval. Day needle where I don't know if. You heard the story of the was traced. That was condemned to die and he by the hand of say. The Bible in one night. And they studied this thing in the Bible is literally around eight inches thick and it's a huge big piece of. booknotes a big thing is covered in skin and when when they open it in look at it, all of the lines in it in all of the texts me lined out. Everything. IS PERFECTLY LINE IN A. Hands on Sandra Bates took a lot of his scripture is from the from the gang coded from back then in transferred it into that because it's the devils Bible, this original Devil's Bible in. Check it out. Man I. can't remember the actual link to this thing. It's it's really interesting. The the day did on this and and I call it art because. The brought the broadcast in the the production they did on this thing was art because they showed the priests he gets condemned. He's in his dungeon. He's the next day. They'RE GONNA put him to death any rice in higher frigging Bible in one night and it's just it's it's amazing. You know the said. In the the Devil's Bible you could still get this thing. It's it's a book. It's like I don't know it's probably about that said. You know just like just black book. It's got a big. Pentagram. In front of it. If you look the invocation to Satan. Still remember what that is because a study time in nominated traits Tennessee valley excessively in that's the that's the invocation to Satan right there in the beginning of this thing. So when you open the for. This thing. That's the presidency is the invocation to Satan while and I still remember that to this day. Betty have you ever done any studying on exactly who we are talking about as far as the figure called Satan or Lucifer not in it? Is that you know I have studied deem analogy and we have. use a lot of the knowledge that I've picked up on that on certain cases where we have dealt with demonic entities in homes and let me tell you it's a that's a totally different animal when you're dealing with something like that and it's A. It really it broke up an entire team that I was in. When? We're doing an investigation in place and. One of the girls that was reading Out of scripture as far as doing a an X.'s of the house. Passed out and I had to wake her up and carry her while she continued reading because I told her not to quit. She started she had to keep going she had to finish it. And we went through the whole house and and it actually quite things down. But we found out later that the the owner of the House Lady kept invoking whatever was there to come back after we would leave. and. The whole reason that we were there was. A thirteen year old girl. who was having issues with the black shadow figure that was terrorizing her And? Dan It was a it was a really really bad case and we didn't realize this lady was invoking distinct to come back and on. VP's. Hours picking up BVP's thing was saying my name. On VP's. And this was before we realized exactly what we were dealing with it. Will you know we didn't find out what we're dealing with until later? And A. On one of our investigation, it was the first one. Actually I was sitting on the foot of the bed that belong to the little girl like you like scaring little girls come scare me. You. Know you're so big that. You know come scare me you know I'm here. You, know and nothing happened. But when we played the video back. From that room while I was sitting there. You. Can hear a voice right after I said you know you're scare a little girls come scare me you hear a voice and it says. So scared. Come across the videotape F-, well at the same time that that took place. There was a video camera on the bottom floor which was living room. There was no win no windows no doors that. A completely sealed off room other, but it was a living room. All. These. French doors that went into the kitchen on one end and a solid door shut on the other. And so there was no shadow or light or anything that come through. Well. The camera was on one end facing towards the French doors. going. into the. Kitchen. And On the at the same time, this was going on upstairs. You see a dark shadow figure come up out of the floor and it rises up. And it. Literally, it blocks a lazy boy chair that was there where you couldn't see the chairs it came up. The chair was totally blocked and it went right up through the ceiling. Where I was at in the little girl's room upstairs. And that happened at the same time we got that. and. When we played that back. To show the owner and to show the little girl I asked the little girl I says this what you saw. And when you see the shadow for your, you could see the head, you could see the shoulders. And you could see the Cape Showman. Couldn't see any is or anything like that. But you you look like a a body with the Cape on it as it went through, we measured from the floor. To where the top of the head was, the thing was approximately eight feet tall. And the room that we were in was probably well foot ceiling. And it went straight up through the ceiling. and. Up into the through the floor where I was sitting upstairs at the little girl's bed. And it's the MANEK. So check this out. It gets better. It gets better. I contacted Johns Office Who is the nephew of editor Lorraine worn? Up in Connecticut exactly and I and I sent him the recordings, the videos. Everything that I had. And he called me and I was on patrol that day I was in my patrol car my phone rang and I answered it and he goes Eddie this John's F. A. KS it. How's it going I said it's great to hear from me. And he goes look he goes I just got done review and everything that you sent me he goes in I gotta say he goes you are dealing with the demonic entity. You need to be very, very careful. And he goes you'RE GONNA need to get the church involved but I was like, oh, piece of cake there's rights you know right across the street from this house it's a Baptist Church. and He Kinda giggled and he says look. He said it's not GonNa be as easy as you think. And I and I asked him I said, what do you mean by that? He said well. Because I'm going to be honest with you. He said by the time you're done with this case you're GonNa have a very different outlook on religion. And I said how so? You said they're not going to be is interested to help. As you think they are number one and number two you're going to it's going to increase your faith by along by by a long way, and so went over to this baptist preacher that lived or nowhere the church across the street from that house. And I told him, I said look I'd like you to come over here and give the house a blessing and he looked at me flat out and said, nope. Not. Doing it. And I said why not? He said, there's no way you're getting me in that house. He's it. I know what goes on in there and I'm not going in. And I looked at him I said you know that's pretty shitty attitude. To have. When you're leading a church side you know I said. You're you're really a piece of shit if you don't go over here and help these people. And he said I ain't doing it. And he goes I'm sorry I just can't. And I looked at him. I. Said, obviously, you don't have the faith that you thought. You did us because anybody who cares about people and has an faith that's it would step foot in there. and. So I went I spoke to Monsignor. At one of the Churches over here in San Antonio. And it's a monsignor that I real well. And told them what was happening he knows what I, what I, what I do, and I went in uniform. I said Hey. Can I borrow your computer because? Yes, I'm GonNa plug something in I'm GonNa play some of this stuff for you. And I plugged it in and play them the audio played them to videos. All that stuff and he sat back in his chair and he looked at me, he said. It goes honestly and he has his serious. Irish. Accent he was goes off. Tell you honestly goes it's tough. Scares the shit out of me. And as I said, well, it's like, what do you think about it? He goes. Well. He goes I have approval from the Bishop he goes but we have no bishop over here at this time he goes all I can do egos is to give you some relics to take with you and some water if he goes in just Go with God. And he loaded me up with holy water and some rosaries and crosses and All kinds of stuff and told me he goes just be careful egos and and. So we did the best we could and I told her I said was kind of sending the boy scouts out to do the job of the marine. Corps. You know when you're dealing with this kind of stuff but we did the best we could. But. To get back to the story of the house in the little girl. We kept going back even after we had one of our investigators pass out. And we made our keep reading and everything quite down. We had to go back. We went back three different times We were unaware that this lady kept calling it back. And I got a call one day from the thirteen year old and she told me she goes she goes you don't need to bother coming back. and. I. Was like why not I said? Is it gone? She Goes No. She goes but. She goes my grandmother. Keeps calling this thing back. And I was like, why would she do that? And she said she likes the attention. and. I was like, where's your parents? And she says she's as well. I'm not sure I have their number, but they've left me here with my grandma. So her grandma's been raising her. So I got a hold of her parents and I, I told him who I was and I told him look I said if you don't go back and you don't go get your daughter and get her out of that situation. I'M GONNA CPS show up a second. We're taking her that's it. Take your pick. I said I'm not playing with you I'm joking around as you go back and you get your daughter from your the grandma. Or I'm going to show up with CPS. I said we're going to remove her from the house. And Story. Hell Yeah and they were they were very adamant about going and they did they went the very next day and picked her up got her out of there but that just goes to show. That you never really know what you're dealing with in an investigation when something like that I starts. But That was the. Thing the right way you know yeah I mean this stuff right here it's it's it's nothing to play with. No I wish. I'd be right there with you. Know I know you would do think about it. You know. A Hell Ya you know recommended that has become the dude think about it. You know we're not walking into an abandoned hospital. You know not knowing what's what's in there you know. Something on third or something on the first floor you don't. It's not that we're walking into something that we know to be evil. Something no is you know. fucked up. For lack of better words we is evil. We know that this is what they stand for. Saints I. Think a lot of it is political. I. Think they have a strong political stance to and so. We know it a little bit of you know we don't know much but a little bit about political stuff. And So I think that would be okay to you know we can talk that but you know go in their guards up but open minded open totally open-minded. You know and just get a feel for these guys to see what's up yup in Make a great great content in You know see what happens i. mean you know like that. So Reagan like so if I Want, to sacrifice a virgin look dude I've been in broadband you can't even spell virgin. So. Sorry wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait wait. Hey. Jay Your dreams it's a version from which end user. All in. Four weeks. You're good to go. Look out radio wriggle. Expect. Rick Look already turned. Not You. Know Man. Jesus glowing. You. Know I'm looking forward to I WANNA stay in you guys and find out what you what the progress is and where you're at on this investigation and if we can get Miguel and Rene to go with you as far as equipment and suit up everybody and get over there. and. Find Out. You know see what they're all about and see what kind of invitation give you guys. Absolutely. Rick final thoughts, man let's go to college tonight. Okay The with this being Halloween were seeing a lot of what they call thinning of the veil This is what transpires usually during this time and I would I would urge caution. And Be well, aware of what's going on around your surroundings from here on out because they know we're talking about him I can guarantee you. They know we're talking about you always know. They always know. James. Man. I. Say we oh, go in with an open mind. with this thing like before. But like for example, with this, this the veil is shrinking in it's getting center and If there's anything we can do from today. Always Pretty I as far as investigations go whether as get out of the House and go to the cemetery go do that because you know what man Oh you know what? To think about that. You know what? Eddie Whigham pass up the fifteen on the Yeah, but he does thirteen. We haven't. We haven't received anything from anybody so we have nothing to show yet so. Yeah, we didn't pass it Adalat self are totally Okay Oh. We have to reassemble Chad in maybe that'll be a halloween special I mean s on a Saturday right Halloween's. Yeah? Yeah. So maybe they'll get but Yeah I. Think you know between now and Halloween go out and do some just investing on anything you know hell if you got free time it nine seven o'clock at night go out in a graveyard somewheres or Muslim or something like that, and just do warnings even by yourself. You know anything just get out there and do something and You know we'll make it a point. Do that tomorrow. And WE'RE GONNA do in find. metairie. We're going to go to. Work and and I've got an event coming up with. One of an old theater we're going to call booze and brews and tell ghost stories and talk about the paranormal. Go like. GimMe a time and a place. Twenty Fifth Wellington Kansas. ME. Think. That's a law brother. A. Cool little small cemetery a few miles from here. L. It's brown I think is the name of it. So I pass by the other day that may be something that we can go and check out really old and really it's small community say. You know it looked cool. Sorry Sounds good? Seven named followers and we have seven new followers on paranormal analytical and. To the people that are wanting to comment on our show. So we're doing good. Awesome. Well. Everybody take care. It's been a pleasure tonight. Thank you so much for joining US I. Know We had a lot of internet issues at the beginning, but we were finally able to get through the entire show in a little extra we apologize for all the the. cutouts that we had. But for whatever reason I have a feeling, it has to do with our topic tonight I don't know why but. We've got into. Yeah exactly. James is still red and the cheek. So he's still. Think blush. Comment we had. And Bruce Edge with night James and rick thank you so much brother. It's always a pleasure to have you on here in new out trying get some EDP's check out some of the different areas. But be very careful like Rick said village than in because of Halloween use caution and do a quick little cleansing before he's at home golden nothing follow you because that's always ends up. Bad. But take care everybody. Tonight's be safe. We love you guys and see next week. James. Own.

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Zodiac Killer Revealed?

True Crime: By The Book

22:30 min | 1 year ago

Zodiac Killer Revealed?

"Took what's up what's up. Hey Everybody Hey. Welcome to the new senator silhouettes featuring types out tasha pierce and we're GonNa talk off things crime and conspiracy related. Yes I rebranded. The show changed the name of the whole thing. Just took the whole goddamn thing off to back home way because I kind of had the cuff zone under to crime by the book I was feeling like I was being deceptive because I did want to talk about books but then I realized I WanNa talk about everything else too. I also WANNA apologize for my absence. I have been absent because I was sick as a dog and can't prefer certain say that it was corona virus. Because you know here in the United States if we don't test it that means they didn't have it right well. I wasn't allowed to get the test because my symptoms were not The most severe but what I did feel like is I had one of the worst flus ever a lot of coughing. A lot of body aches a lot a lot a lot of fatigue so I slept for days. But I'm I'm back. I might not be one hundred percent because I still have like a lingering cough but I'm I'm well enough to come here and share a story in the story. This week is the most dangerous game. Yes yes yes was Karen I have finally gotten to the book slash Docu series. That you and I have been talking about for at least a month speaking of Ms Karen. I'd like to thank her and a few other people for checking in on me while I was sick. We're going to start it off with Sharon. H thank you so much for your review. Share IN H NARES. Rene g thank you. So much for your review lender who is? She's been with me so we got Linda Karen. Sarah those are my faithful fuel and you can be a part of the faithful few too because you know they make themselves very known they are supporting now sinister silhouettes and then there's one de Niro Jay. I'll see you lurking girl. Come out of the shadows so with that might think you own minute. Theme Song Manute theme song is by my Kid Queen Bee and it's a breezy. Beat so thank you so much to my son for providing me a new intro music and with that being said let's get into the most dangerous animal of all Earl van best. Junior was twenty seven years old when he met Judy Chandler. Thirteen at the time. It was October nineteen sixty one and they were in front of an ice cream shop in San Francisco. Now he became fixated on the team but Van. Bass knew he was far too old to be trying to court. Judy worse she had a less than ideal. Home Life Her father was said to be abusive which made her a prime target for a guy who knew how to say all the right things van best dead continue his pursuit and the two began sneaking the C one another for months the couple however was soon found out and the whole city was disturbed to know a pedophile operating in grooming. Young girls in their area with that revelation. Van Best In. Judy ran away together and eventually eloped in Reno Nevada now. This illicit relationship was tabloid news in the sixties in July of nineteen sixty. Two van best ended up behind bars. For statutory rate the marriage was annulled in Chandler was sent to a juvenile facility in February of nineteen sixty two true perversion prevailed in Van Best Gut Chandler to run off with him again this time to Mexico while they're chandler became pregnant in van best began to show his true colors. He was having problems holding down a job because he's a piece of shit so according to Judy. He asked her to turn tricks while she was pregnant. Before the baby was born the couple continued to elude the law. They made stops in California and finally settled in Louisiana for a while. Judy was all alone when she gave birth to. Earl van Doren best junior on February twelfth nineteen sixty three when she was just fifteen years. Old Van Best was not going to win father of the year when the baby was born in fact he would routinely lock the crying child in a footlocker. That just sounds absurd because at some point this motherfucker gotta go to sleep right. He would've wanted to sleep. He'd been wearing footlocker upside his head in me and the baby would have been gone. But that's me. Jody did everything she could to protect her son and she considered leaving van best because of his complete this interest in the baby and his constant abuse of her. She got in contact with her mother. Who allegedly told her that she could come home but the baby couldn't come with her. Their son was one month old. When van best announced that the baby had to go he grabbed the baby jumped on a train from New Orleans to Baton Rouge Jr and around eleven thirty. Am Van Best. Found himself at seven thirty six north boulevard where he entered the building with the baby in came out without him. Baby van best had been abandoned in spear will of a building by his father. He was found by a woman about five hours later. Help on finding out van best really did get rid of her baby. Judy film the strength to leave. The pedophile caught the authorities on judy and see was promptly arrested. Of course she had dirt on him as well so he ended up back in slammer also now. The whole saga was con constantly. Reported on by San Francisco Media Most giving lead by Paul Avery at the San Francisco. Chronicle poor baby was adopted into a very loving family. Lloyd in Leona Stewart remained infant Gary Stewart and treated him as their own but their son still wanted to know who he was in where he came from the ice cream. Romance as this was dubbed could be a true crime episode all by itself but today it serves as a prelude to a possible conspiracy to cover up the identity of one of the most notorious serial killers of all time in his quest to find his birth mother. Gary Stewart believes he stumbled upon the name of the Zodiac now Zodiac killer has been covered extensively in episodes of well-known podcast on documentaries and even on the big screen most recently in two thousand seven's Zodiac which starred Robert Downey junior mark. Ruffalo N Shake Jilin Hall. Now I'll eventually tell the entire story of the murders committed by Zodiac in another episode. Because today I want to give my full attention to Gary Stewart in his journey after years of both of them searching Gary and his birth mother found one a mother she was. Judy Guilford formerly Chandler. As one could imagine Gary had many questions for his birth mother but it seemed like she couldn't give him all the answers he had hoped for. He did find out this. She never meant to give him up now. That may have been somewhat of a relief or Gary. Finding out that his mother did love him in when he heard what his father had done. He initially had no desire to find out where he was in time. However curiosity and that incomplete feeling washed over him again he wanted to meet the man who abandoned him all. Those years ago he felt a need to clear the air now. Judy was a big help to gear. Because she had connections in law enforcement her second husband. Rotate Gilford was a cop in San Francisco before his death in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight through her connections with the police. Gary was provided with his father's name date of birth and social security number. Now according to Gerry after getting that information the police became hesitant. Give him any other leads. Pertaining to Earl Van Best Gary had enough info to discover that he had siblings on father's side of the family who lived in Austria when he reached out to them. They politely declined to provide any details about dear old dad except that he abandoned their family years ago. Now after that rejection Gary decided he would call off. Its search one day while watching TV Gary in his son. Zack were floored by what they saw. On cold case files a police sketch of the Zodiac killer from nineteen sixty nine with on the screen Zach remarked that this guy bore a striking resemblance to Gary Carey. Thought he looked like someone else entirely. He went with folder of research on his birth. Father then took out a photo and could not believe his is. He was looking at a face from that era. That matched the sketch. From that moment on Gerry dug up everything he could on the Zodiac. He claimed that he had proof that van. Best movements. In the late sixties early seventies lined up with the murderers perfectly. He said he could trace his father's involvement with Anton. Levay hit of the Church of Satan. Which I don't understand how that ties into this but also Charles Manson and he also had proof that Earl van best father was a code breaker who exercised his sons brain by challenging him to solve cryptograms. Now it was well known that the Zodiac like to use ciphers encrypt does to taunt the police and Public Kerry also claimed that. Earl van best name was hidden in one of those ciphers van. Best had a grudge against Paul Avery. From the San Francisco Chronicle for his embarrassing coverage of the Ice Cream Romance Avery turned out to be the only journalist receive a personal threat from the Zodiac. Gary also dug up judy in earls marriage certificate. He found a handwriting analyst who ascertained the writing on that certificate matched the handwriting of Zodiac at Gerry also submitted a DNA sample that he says indicates he shares genetic markers with DNA from a stamp that was used on a letter sent to newspapers by the Zodiac. There were more claims made by steward. This seem to point to the fact that Zodiac was indeed Kerry's biological Father Earl van best so if Gary has all this circumstantial evidence that points directly to his father. Why would the police not consider his research to close this ice cold case? Gary submits that the San Francisco police in clear including Judy Gilford's deceased husband rotator bungled the investigation. They had allegedly interviewed van. Best and Guilford noted that he was the pedophile who had kidnapped abuse and impregnated his now wife for some reason the case was botched in buried. Because of this now if this was true not only had Gary Unmasked Zodiac but he also stumbled upon one of the biggest cover ups ever. The police may have ignored gears. Findings but Susan Mustapha. A true crime. Author found them to be intriguing. She and Gary Poured over all his research and before. You know it. She was set to co author. A book with him. This story was sure to make shit load of money because everyone who was about this true crime life wants to know the identity of the Zodiac of course armchair detectives around the country. Were all pissed off because every good whip web sleuth has their own theory about the Zodiac. So the community mostly dismissed. Gary's claim because it didn't line up with their own speculations. I myself would be thrilled to know who this fucker is. Just like I was when the world found out that Joseph di Angelo is allegedly the golden state killer. And I can't wait till that bastard pleads guilty so acura moved that lately. But I digress. What happened after the book was published in Two Thousand Fourteen Duh? It became a New York Times bestseller. That's all and it has a rating of four point. One out of five on Amazon's reviews and just like the true crime community in general. The reviews were pretty divide. A user named Toubro to shop. Wrote five out of five stars will done. I could not put this book down the whole story so well written in put together. I am completely convinced that Earl van Best Junior Zodiac killer. I did not think that I would be so thoroughly convinced. I am really surprised that so many people are being critical are being critical about the lack of evidence back in the day and even now without DNA. Many cases are one. If you have enough convincing circumstantial evidence nowadays most of us prefer DNA or both but honestly just comparing his picture to the sketch and taking into account the unique scar on his finger which matched a fingerprint left behind from one of the Zodiac crime scenes was huge. Now the very very next review was from Chardonnay mcdaniels and it read one out of five stars. Where the facts? Highly questionable claims. It lacks significant evidence. All the victims look like mom. I don't see it fan. Best Junior photo in the sodium sketch. Many people could have been seen as being reported bearing a resemblance to sketch. Perhaps there is something to handwriting but too small of a sample of Earl van best juniors writings in my opinion to give so much potential of a match even from a professional lastly no DNA test. That's like in caps known. Dna tests and the ciphers seems that many people have found various names with no definitive answers with confidence so despite varying opinions the book was a huge success and earlier this year fx in. Hulu teamed up to give us a four part Docu series that takes a deep dive into the life of Gary Stewart. Who is an adoptee who needed to find himself? And the research he'd be it that apparently uncovered Zodiac it was directed by Academy Award nominee Keith. Davidson and Ross. Diner Stein. And of course they were very committed to shutting positive light on Gary but also to explaining the truth so we met law enforcement. Officers are the handwriting analyst. Susan Moustapha Judy Gilford who is now estranged from her biological son after. He wrote that book without giving her a heads up and so many more people who Gary says substantiate his story the series was well done and I found myself wondering if this was it had the Soda Yak Finally Been Name Sadly it appears he has not the documentary fairly laid out Gary's evidence and told his story of searching for his identity and it shed light on the struggles of many adoptees who have little to no knowledge of who they are made me. Scratch my head and ponder whether there was a conspiracy to keep Zodiacs identity a secret. It made me look forward to the final episode. Aptly titled The truth. We learned Gary Stewart was an unreliable narrator and it finally revealed enough truth to make me doubt not only Gary Story but his motivation. It seems that Gary saw that sketch on cold case files and immediately became married to the idea that his dad was a serial killer. Now all the evidence he found was carefully manipulated to his narrative. Yes Earl van. Best resembled the sketch but real talk half of the white guys. In his documentary resembled the sketch certificate was filled out by the judge presiding over his parents marriage not by van best. The handwriting analyst who definitively said certificate was filled out by the Zodiac was debunked by his own peers the DNA Gerry submitted was never matched against the known sample of the Zodiac. All of the evidence that placed van best in areas that Zodiac was known to be in was stretched by geary to fit times and Dates Susan Moustapha and Gary turned on one another each blaming the other for failing to check and double check the facts surrounding the case. Gary accused his biological mom of selectively forgetting details of her life van best. And if she did. Could you blame her? I mean she was a real victim of Van. Best also final episode was Real Shit. Show thus I spent four hours watching this show and the only thing I'm sure of is that Gary Stewart was obsessed with the thought that Earl van best less Zodiac killer. An obsession is one of those things that lets you. See what you want to see. Gerry needed his biological father to be a monster. It would explain why he took him to seven thirty six North Boulevard in left him in a stairwell. It would explain why he never looked for him. It would validate his worth if the person who threw him away was a fucking murderer but even if van best is not the Zodiac. He was a terrible person. If this only crimes were against Judy and Gary that qualifies him as a Shitty individual and city individuals deserve shitty endings. Earl van best got his. He died in Nineteen ninety-four choking on his own vomit in a bar in Mexico City. And that's according to Stewart. Of course he was buried in an unmarked grave where Gary and his sons were. The first visitors shit happens to Shitty people. That's it that's all the most dangerous animal is finally in the books. So what do you think of Gary Story also who is your favorite Zodiac suspect. Let me know I'm still at? Tc BY TB on all the things including my blog at TC by TB dot com where you'll find sources and shit. There's also a little donate button in case you were so inclined and my email is still. Tc BY TB Edgy. Mail DOT COM. If you like to catch up with me that way. I can't wait to Holler at you know next week until then stay out of the shadows piece.

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Mon. 09/28 - Time Travel, Biomedical Tattoos, & Satanic Tea

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Mon. 09/28 - Time Travel, Biomedical Tattoos, & Satanic Tea

"Welcome to the he ride home for Monday September, Twenty Eighth Two, thousand, twenty I'm Jackson buried. In undergrad has proving that paradox free time travel is indeed possible. If you thought email newsletters were ubiquitous. Now let me introduce you to the world of Nineteen Thirties mimeograph newsletters. The emerging field of biomedical Tattoos and the Satanic Tea Company here to bust stereotypes. Here are some of the cool things from the news today. An undergraduate at the University of Queensland has apparently proven that time travel without paradoxes is possible. This is from a new paper published last week in the journal classical and quantum gravity by the student Germane to bar and his professor Fabio Kosta quoting popular mechanics. The math itself is complex, but it boils down to something fairly simple time travel discussion focuses on closed time like curves or CTC's something Albert Einstein I posited until Barton cost say that as long as. Just two pieces of an entire scenario within a C. T. C. or still in causal order when you leave the rest is subject to local free will I results show that C. T. C.'s are not only compatible with determinism and with the local free choice of operations but also with a rich and diverse range of scenarios in dynamical processes, their paper concludes end quote. In other words stepping on a butterfly during a dinosaur hunting expedition would not entirely change the present world returned to and the way Mardi MC fly prevented his parents from meeting or accidentally left behind a sports ALMANAC for biff defined would not drastically change his present reality either. Instead, the mathematical research shows that time travel would be more akin to vendors endgame something that matches the findings from Los, Alamos Laboratory earlier this summer. Side No. Los. Alamos is also one of the few labs messing around with plutonium. So All I'm saying is if you see a delorean cruising around New Mexico, maybe watch out. But essentially, the findings say that you can go back to the past and mess with things a little bit but it will basically smooth over and eventually lead to the same results preventing things like the grandfather paradox in which you go back in time, kill your own grandfather, and then prevent yourself the time traveller from ever existing. To Warren constant used relevant example from our present time to put their complex math into plain language quoting a press statement by the researchers say you traveled in time in an attempt to stop covid nineteen patient zero from being exposed to the virus? However, if you stopped that individual from becoming infected that would eliminate the motivation for you to go back and stop the pandemic in the first place this is a paradox been inconsistency that often leads people to think that time travel cannot occur in our universe. Logically, it's hard to accept because that would affect our freedom to make any arbitrary action. It would mean you can time travel. You cannot do anything that would cause a paradox to occur. In the coronavirus patient zero example, you might try and stop patient zero from becoming infected, but in doing so you would catch the virus and would become patient zero or someone else would no matter what you did. The salient events would just recalibrate around you try. As you might to create a paradox, the events will always adjust themselves to avoid any inconsistency end quotes. So our timelines are a bit more self-correcting than we thought and trying to adjust the time line. We're currently living in to go back to one where perhaps a different person won an election and the berinstain bears are still the Bernstein bears probably isn't going to happen. As NPR quoted from Stephen, King's time travel novel eleven twenty to sixty three about trying to prevent the Kennedy assassination quotes. The past is obdurate. It doesn't want to be changed. Remember when everyone knew was starting a podcast. Well I guess that's actually still happening bit. But in some ways, it's been eclipsed by everyone starting a newsletter almost every writer journalist General Internet Creator Personality I know of has a tiny letter or sub stack these days gene cocky and I talked about this phenomena a little bit on the weekend bonus episode of this show on September nineteenth would you should absolutely go listen to if you haven't yet we? discussed how email newsletters are perhaps the closest current analog of personal expression to what blogs once were in fact, and Freedman Author Co host of the podcast call your girlfriend and writer of the an Friedman weekly newsletter told Vanity Fair last year that around two thousand thirteen when personal newsletters really started taking off again, the starting one was quote fully recognized as what you do because you don't blog anymore and quotes. And it certainly solves the issue of how do I read your blog that Jason, mentioned he's heard from Newark potential readers who skipped over the blogging. Feed days just send your blog street to people's INBOXES. Now so many people have their own email newsletters that vanity fair and others declared were at peak newsletter even the Rusty Foster, the creator of one of my personal favorite. Now, defunct newsletters today in tabs has said quote peak newsletter has been happening continuously since like nineteen, eighty, six and quotes. And wired says, peak newsletter goes even further back and their lead for the story on that is yearly accurate to our times quotes. By the time Claude cut burn resigned from his post as foreign correspondent for the Times of London. He'd grown sick of the newspapers conservative streak but even as a freelancer, he continued to struggle with what he saw as the media's complacency toward the rise of ultra nationalist movements around the world. So he tried a new approach he'd start a newsletter and make himself a brand cock burns. I issue went out to subscribers in March nineteen, thirty, three end quote. Wired points to two key reasons that hordes of journalists fall in copper footsteps in the decades to come and went to independent sources of publication, both of which are relevant to today's newsletter trend as well. Accessibility of new technology and a lack of confidence in the news media. As for technology, the mimeograph which had been around since the late eighteen hundreds was finally being mass produced for consumers and praised at about the modern equivalent of five, hundred thousand dollars, and it wasn't just popular for independent journalists. It led to a boom in chapter books especially among Allen Ginsberg and his Coterie fanzines in. The LGBTQ, plus publications like the Internet and social media for us. Now, the mainstream accessibility of this technology enabled Nisha and minority populations to communicate with one another and share their stories when no major media streams would dare to do so. And it was that homogeneous entity of the major news publications that also led many journalists to part ways with their employers and start up shop as independent journalists quoting wired at the time public trust in mainstream media was wavering newspapers were making good money, but they were also increasingly turning into a monopoly from nineteen twenty three to nineteen, forty, three, the number of US towns with at least two daily newspapers dropped from five hundred to two hundred, thirty, seven according to media historian. Victor Cards Book. America's battle for media democracy at the time the popular perception was that newspapers were a bastion of conservative not liberal politics driven by the interests of big business. By the end of the nineteen thirties, many papers were fiercely opposed to the new deal and labor organizing stances that would alienate large numbers of readers as card shows the growing market consolidation paired with these ideological concerns led thousands of Americans in the nineteen forties to pack panels with titles like is the American press, really free and quotes. and. The newsletters of the thirties through the fifties really took off Claude Cock Burns newsletter was popular enough to be read by the likes of Charlie Chaplin and King Edward The seventh and was the original outlet to break the news of the threat of Francisco Franco just before the coup that would lead to his rise to power journalist George cells published what was probably the most popular newsletter of the day reaching over a hundred seventy, six thousand people at its peak including Eleanor Roosevelt Harry Truman and a large number of sitting senators newsletters were sold. In like minded bookstores and newsstands, as well as via subscription with Union subscriptions being one of the particularly powerful moods of proliferation and profit for left leaning publications and Conservative raiders eventually got in on the game too. But those modes of distribution eventually dried up and as they are want to do traditional publishers and corporations got in on the game making it much harder for independent journalists to make a living on newsletters anymore by the sixties and seventies, newsletters had to rely almost exclusively on direct mailing and one third of all independent newsletters failed each year. The. Good news in a way at the time was that the newspaper industry was actually booming while many journalists chose to go independent for ideological or passion reasons they could easily find a well paying job with the newspaper. Again, if need be whereas today, journalists are having a harder time than ever finding full-time work many have turned to newsletters. Side hustles to try to pay the bills. Meanwhile, corporations are already flooding the email newsletter market in picking off talented newsletter raiders for their own perhaps signaling the impending end of this iteration of the newsletter boom just as the past is apparently unchangeable in any consequential ways so too does it repeat itself with broad strokes in perpetuity? Tend to have become increasingly common over the last few decades and accordingly, the stigma surrounding them has worn off quite a bit as well. It's still there of course, especially in older generations in certain cultures. But what if you could defend your tattoo by saying it's for medical purposes. Tattoos that can indicate biochemical changes in your body as warning signs for larger conditions have been in development by various teams of scientists over the last several years. Carson bruns a chemist artist and assistant professor at the University of Colorado. Boulder has been working on tattoos that detect UV lights and also served as the first human test subject for them. But before I dive more into bronzes specific work, here's a quick summary of recent developments quoting the conversation in two thousand seventeen researchers tattooed pigskin, which had been removed from the pig with molecular bio sensors that use color to indicate sodium glucose or. Ph levels in the skins fluids in two thousand, nineteen team of researchers expanded on that study to include protein sensing and developed smartphone readouts for the tattoos. This year they also showed that electrolyte levels could be detected with fluorescent tattoo sensors in two thousand eighteen biologist developed a tattoo made of engineered skin cells that darken when they sent an imbalance of calcium caused by certain cancers they demonstrated the cancer detecting tattoo in living mice and quotes. While all of those projects detect biomedical changes within a person Brinson, his team are working on the detection of external changes mostly UV exposure as a warning sign for skin cancer quoting bruns. In the conversation, we developed an invisible tattoo ink that turns blue only in UV light alerting you when your skin needs protection. The tattooing contains a UV activated die inside of Plastic Nanno capsule less than Micron in diameter or thousandth of a millimeter about the same size as an ordinary to pigments. The Nano capsule is needed to make the color changing tattoo particles large enough if tattoo pigments are too small, the immune system rapidly clears them from the skin and the tattoo disappears. They're implanted using tattoo machines in the same way as regular tattoos but they last for only several months before they start to degrees from UV exposure and other natural processes and fade requiring a booster tattoo end quote. The team is also developing UV protective tattoos that would essentially act as long lasting sunscreen by absorbing the UV light that penetrates the skin. While that may sound like a lot of pain to endure for how much surface area that would have to cover to be effective bruhns also notes that scientists have been working on needle free tattooing methods using microscopic ink droplets fired into the skin. And Tattoo Tech is going in even more directions. There's epidermal electronics or wearable electronic tattoos that would do things like quote sense electro physiological signals like heart rate and brain activity or monitor hydration and glucose levels from sweat and quotes. But there's also non-medical uses like quote controlling mobile devices, for example, Shuffling Music playlist at the touch of a tattoo or for luminescent body art that lights up the skin and quotes. Bruhns, notes that color changing tattoos that can be programmed with electromagnetic signals will change the game on tattoos. You could have a tattoo that's visible when you're out with friends but turn it off for work. All of this is not completely without risk however, even ordinary tattoo pigments currently in use are unregulated by the FDA hopefully as new tech is being developed in labs, there will be some level of caution in oversight being exercised, but the long term effects of micro and Nano implants is yet to be studied. 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In through this company, we are not here to inform but challenge you to look from a different perspective and additionally they include a quote from Anton Levay, the founder of the Church of Satan which reads quote. Satan. Represents. Indulgence Satan represents undefined wisdom end quotes. And a quick reminder that the Church of Satan does not actually worship Satan. It's more of a philosophical community using purposefully provocative imagery to challenge beliefs on well beliefs. But getting back to pitch black north, the tea company they're instagram is filled with photos of scantily clad models in corpse paint faces having tea parties in a field. They do have a really strong brand I'll give that to them. So if you were into goth or metal and want to t company that matches your static pitch black north. Is the company for you but there are also plenty of other options on the market especially if you're looking for less music inspired and more generally spooky for the Halloween season. Brutalities cells loose leaf tea blends based on horror movies and metal bands. They have options like Chai put a spell on you back in blackberry and a chalk work on. And if coffee is more your vibe, I would like to recommend the number one most frequently targeted Ed for me bones coffee company. Admittedly, I still haven't tried them but they are a small batch roaster with really great art design and their roasts include Jack do Lantern Franken bones and a rest in peace DECAF. So. If you're looking to get spooky with your caffeine this season, there are few recommendations for tea or coffee that are as dark as your soul. That's it. For today as always, the cocky ride home was produced by ride home media and Cocky Org. I am Jetson bird and I'm going to go hop in my delorean and accelerate to eight miles per hour because apparently if I end up in the past there is nothing I can do to make twenty twenty even worse. I. Hope You all had a great weekend talk to you again tomorrow.

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