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Ep 87 - Cheeks Out for Rice Farmers

The Tiny Meat Gang Podcast

1:10:32 hr | 1 year ago

Ep 87 - Cheeks Out for Rice Farmers

"Action. What's up guys this actually last week's episode? If you want today's episode as episode in these close where I sit on my gamer thrown. Uh-huh. And coconut doesn't hard metal asked chair, then subscribe, now, patriots dot com slash tiny meet gang and watch him just slowly. Get scoliosis or ad free at a free ad free scoliosis. He's. Oh, also there's a new song out. So go check that out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Check that shit out, Hugh. Yes, it's with blackberry. It's called short kings anthem. Go check that out. It's really good song. Yeah. We love it. We're very proud of it. Okay. Now onto the episode. See you. All right. I wanna I wanna start this one off just by saying, walkman has officially as one point one million streams on Spotify on Spotify, and it's been what's been seven days. Exactly. One point one million streams. One point one million streams on Spotify, and it's got like almost three on YouTube, and like half a million on apple music shit like at four four and a half million streams, something like that in a week while you. Thank you guys g seriously streaming fucking. I we appreciate it. That's really fucking cool. That's the fastest any thing we've released any, any track rude view, so this fucking awesome. Thank you guys so much for streaming it. And keep banging it keep keep make slamming that shit at church. Whenever everyone keeps in harra. Keep making a take toxin thrillers to gas Gasset. Oh, get get on there and do a little walk on the walkman. Chad judge tag. That's fucking song. You know, we're telling you how to dance to. It's right in the lyrics, walk around the best music tells you what to do. Speaking of fucking best music is, is just super literal. Yeah. Yeah. Cha-cha slide. Why have you will love that shit? Yes, exactly what to do. Exactly. Yeah. But left the left and. Right, right that same shit. Exactly. So you should people love doing that shit at weddings. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Chano yell. That's walkman is the next big wedding song. It's just like for everyone was trying to be a rapper people understand. We're just trying to create the next wedding song for you. All when you're seven or middle aged white people. Yeah. Yeah. So when you guys are seventy however, many of you are white. I don't know. Nice. Yeah. The next, yet y'all be oldest should be like. Yeah. Play the walkman by my g and then the DJ's like fucking come on. And then you're just all this shit. Going drew a walk. Go walk and on a push my buttons, and you're all literally just walking rather dance with a Walker. Yeah. Because it's easy were saying. Hello for success. We're setting you up to kill it at weddings. When you're fucking shitting yourself and your geriatric than a month. Shakin dance there. It is. Yeah. For sure. We meet me me me. Me me. Me me me me me me. Take a walk walk. Ewing. Anyone else makes music talks about it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? We we came through. We, we just re we, we made the new chicken dance. Yeah. Let's fuck in sample, the Jagan digging. Does do at halftime. Yeah. All my warm warm warm. Do that. Right. Just write it. When I get home doubt. Yep. Trapped out chicken Dan, when we're warm were warm one when you're. Hey, hey, hey, hey on wannabe a chicken. On wanna be duct now. Now. I just wanna shake my butt. The, the speaking of fucking a fucking a walking a oh, yeah. J rafters as well. First of all, before you get into that. I also want us I also wants to another. Thank you to everyone who bought tickets to the third Toronto show. It's gone consoled thirty five hundred. Tickets in Toronto in, like three hours. Who knew that we had that many fucking fans there. I didn't know. And so it's really cool to know that. And I shout out to all my fellow Canadian Louis we, we, we were fellow Canadian way we wait. The, the venue Caffe is thirty five one. No. But every show sold out in an hour and, and the cap on the venues like twelve hundred or something like that. Oh, we're okay. So it happened again, having again he's Christ yet. Three shows that also doubt in under an hour is a good year to come out is from the six man. I know and this is the fuck. Yeah, the morning after the raptors one everyone in that city is hung over right now. Yeah. And you still manage to wake up and get tickets this show. So man, it's it I was singing last night that Washington game when my bro- they win. And I haven't been Toronto since I was like five you know it's an I look like us looking over when the Toronto Raptors were like my how long they've been in the league. They were created the year. I moved back there for for a bit really. Yeah. Because like what year ninety five I think on the fuck. I think let me see. Yeah, it was like their trade in ninety five. Wow. Zuma's resume. See hold on alone. Along is earthquake night. Okay on those. No, excuse me. Maybe they weren't may. Yeah. There Creighton ninety five. Okay. So I. Yeah, I forgot what happened. Basically, there's a earthquake in Northridge, and we, we lived there and then we moved for a little while and then a- turned five okay, which was sick. Yeah. Turned fight out at the Terni five yet. Turn out. Turk. Goodyear turned five in Toronto in there was a movie just such a movie. Super movie Roe fifth birthday was a move was fucking lie. The remember added cake at the number five candle on it. The shit was sick customer number five. Yeah. At a bus down five on my cake. Yes. I was just thinking. Thinking is kinda dope that I'm coming back? I was living there when they were made in comeback year. They like won a championship is pretty cool. Yeah. I mean, granted the warriors are pretty beat up, but yeah, it was weird maybe may know say it's a testament to how hard the raptors plan that we was fucking him up yet. I guess I guess you can look at it. That way the end of the game was so weird. Oh, it was crazy. I like just wait a ruin the fucking energy. Oh, yeah. Foul. No less layered. Yes. So strange. Can I felt I feel bad for man? That looked bad in slow MO yeah. He walked back on the court and took those free throws a, but like that could have been one of those like maybe the adrenaline hit, and he's like in his mind. He's like I'm fine. I'm fine. And like maybe it was worse. I mean you could see, like it's something move moved. Yeah. Yeah. The first angle. I'm like, he just like he just like, kinda went and then this, like, the second time they played it over my not something like his skin, like did something funky there. But maybe that was just as foot hitting the ground. But I think what was was crazier in a everyone has talked about this all ready, but super shitty for the warriors to force Katie back out there that was now worth it now. 'cause now talk achilles tendon. I now you can see it like roll up his fucking Naff. That's what it looks like in the slo MO. Oh, yeah. Hate seeing that she didn't cite skin breaks. Yeah. So now Faulk you up for years. Yeah. And Kane like never come back the same from that I think, so I think it's pretty like he's going to have to play differently. I think that was the craziest part was watching kind of like their best players, like, like, really, like run down, like you know, they're great shooters. But in, you know, now, are they at the point where like they've played so tough for like five years? And now they're going to all be injury prone like, is that what's going to like stay in their legacy? You know. Yeah, but it's just crazy how any one of literally any one of them just light up threes, I now they're fucking special do now so shut to how shots a quiet man that clip of. Like when go is celebrating then realizing he celebrating know it's fucking funny like right after they went, he's like. Yeah. He's like showing so much emotion than he like he like has this thought and he pulls it back. Dude in the suit. I don't know who to start celebrating, and he's just like a act like don't it looks like the dude, I could be wrong headed dude, Houston, coach, the Cavs forget, I forget his name, but I think that's who it was or could be way the fuck off. But yeah, he like, yeah, I saw that. Like, like kinda calmed down. Switch. Yeah. And he was telling do y'all, like stop for what are you doing cool? Yeah. Oh, I think I think what it was is that Steph was trying to say it's up to him. And then I think he was just like trying to be respectful, and like not like showboat in his face. And he's trying to get the staff to like shake his hand. Okay. And or whatever and he was telling you, like you'll come the fuck down. So funny. Yeah, it looked like he was self reflecting though, looking wait. I'm burning. Yeah, I need I need any. Been there. We thought we had. Right. This is the second time he's one. Yeah. Right. He won't the Spurs. Yeah. I think he's the only dude to win in two conferences or something like that really sound. I'm like that. It was funny. It was. So as long he said, like we were like, oh, my God, he won this, and then he's like, I bought to go to applebees and be in bed at ten thirty and I was joking. Like what if go is wife just didn't even know that he played basketball, I she thinks his name is like cleven, or like Calvin or something? And like before he goes home every day. What's wasn't like jiffy lube outfit, any like looking like undoes his braids and the some different to his hair and he comes home and she's like how it works. I go brutal there do inventory on all the fuck. And we got this new shipment of Mobil Oil is just terrible. This new stuff is just making it so much harder to work with the customer, the oil changes take away longer. Now. She's like this guy. Like he just I just can't get over how much you guys look alike. And you just like yeah. Anyway, did you see hunting you see the raptors one the tight enough time to watch the guy wasn't it? Couldn't watch this counting all massage Thai. Right. I know doing does too much lifting of the boxes. Heavy hurts my bag. Did you make as you make your lasagna would we love to eat your lasagna tonight? I'm so hungry are mentioned him before he's the dude I was saying that drove like a fucking nineteen eighties. Pickup is the same car you had like in college Koi. Yeah. Realize what he drove to like, when he was playing on the Spurs. Some reporter was like, well, why don't you get like a nice car, whatever he's like my basketball's a job, man car just gets you from a to b and guests me to the job. So I can always that is so dope. Palumbo, those memes of him his trash talk. Yeah. Today. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. Narrow 'specially you know, it's even special more special. What is my Clemson had babe cannot have? I forgot about that. Cannot have bins mcclinton had. Yeah. This is explain this a real life sketch that we wouldn't. And so forth. So we're flying back from his Merck, which we will talk about it in the second and we're getting on the plane. And this dude is talking to his wife, as were boarding the plane, and he's he pulls his hats out. These couple hats out of his backpack, and he looks at her, and he goes, it's just I can't I got no more room. It's the it's bending mock limbs and heads, and Anoc cannot have a cannot have that. Yeah. He said he said hunt. He's at babe give room in your bag. And she was like, I think, so, who's like okay go, 'cause this is Ben, Ben MC. Clemson hats and I cannot have that cannot have that. And then he like Clemson. Yeah, I know. Just like was he? Oh, N. Z. I. N. C. L E, M Z, I N Nive, even related to the college blends, and that just like some other brand Clemson, Mark in. Hey, it's like walking away from that. And like just by the fucking heads like someone sign them like what, what is special about him? There is Clemson ad. He went to Clemson best four years of his God. Damn life. And I got the hats timber memory by and God, God, damn it, they better not get banned insanely dark thought that I'm not gonna fucking say, why. This is this is one of those. I tell you, it's bad. And then I say, then you go. Oh, yeah. That was bad. Okay. Fair enough. Fucking. Oh man. I want to say what is bad. I mean, they're, they're they want you to say I know they do, but it's, it's one of the book dumb ones. We got in trouble for the fucking eugenic shit. Don't want this somehow. Can hyper cut I already got the hybrid coat of me saying the nine year old? Gonna fuck you Brandon moment for moment for fucking making that fucking animation. I thought we were all in agreement. I'd said like those strains accidental fucking. Bull shit, dude. This is this is how does how dark that thought was I'm sitting here. Down. She said. I mean not like shit Damon. You're nine years old. Tuck down. We got a repeat it. I'm so stressed by that. I've been sitting here, massaging the top of my shins rubbing my shins, bro. Now, I feel like I just have to say it, say it. Assist thinking like clemes in the way Hussein is like what if it was like some weird, like like southern pronunciation on, like cleansing? No. Pulls out a couple like in. Yeah. You know, right. I sorry sorry. I mean with that accent. Yes. Okay. Yes. Does fucking. Oh. What do that on a plane with the fuck is wrong with you? Doing here, you sicko speaking of things you can't do on a plane. Oh, we. Yeah. Jerked off in the airplane better. No, I'm kidding. We did something. Maybe we won't share that. We see. Yeah. You'll see soon. I mean there's something on a plane. You're listening to this just for free. Then you already you already would have seen. Yeah. Yeah. So we flew to flew to pit and spoiler alert. Getting now. Let's not talk about it. No, no. Let's not talk about it. Wow. This is leave it. We talked about the next week then. Yeah. Next week Sundays. Sundays is peeled on Friday for some. Yeah. Next next Friday Friday week from today. The next Friday Friday, Friday, Friday song. Yeah. We, we sampled that. Yeah. The next Friday, Friday song. Yeah. Which is the new walkman, which is the new chicken dance, which is the nude. All right. So you, you saw Krief in Starbucks and I gotta tie size savage. Okay, says I saw a creep. Okay. And I don't know what the fuck is with forty five year old men going into Starbucks and just being creepy. All right. This food that I had seen was like. He looked like a fuck in bald eagle. But it was like, really like a cartoon version of it like mushed beak like his nose kinda, like crane down his head was kind of, like wide and is a real big as always sitting by the door facing where people got their drinks at the Starbucks, marina del Rey. And he's eating a tub, like a fucking, whatever not a pint the bigger the dryer size ice cream. He's big dressing, like, like Konya homeless, look and shit. Like I can't tell dirty or just Brown. He's just mashing this ice cream and like looking at girls like creep in like creep creep like looking right out of the tub. Yeah. With a spoon. We must have gone to that Ralph's bought that and then walked. Yeah. Starbucks, yes. Yes. Yes. And brought a spoon with him because it was a fucking silver like sterling spoon. That's kinda savage too. But that's also fucking grows but kindness. Yeah. But. Look, that's like literally savage. Yeah. That's a savage thing to do. Yeah. That's, that's what I like a literal, savage would do. He would just just fucking with his hands. Thing. And so he's eating this. I know a girl would go up to like get their fucking drinking. He's go. Try to make eye contact with them, and he kept like, like area aiding the fucking ice cream in his mouth like trying to like this like rise smile. Just. And he just kept doing it every woman that winning gotta shit and he liked track with their asked. They walked out of the fucking place. You want to bite. Yeah. You want to buy like this real good. This was a straight up horny bird, eating half-baked flavor. Oh, good wouldn't visit cookie dough, I wouldn't have been surprised to be opened his mouth and just went. Inches of bird Birdman. Yeah. Just said that some of the eagle. Yeah. It creamy fuck out. I like wanted to sleep. I've never been compelled to just tell someone to go home. He'd probably didn't have home Yemane. No, no. He wasn't like that. He's like you're looking at it. What do you think? I, I am. I'm a bird, man. I'm actual bird. He just turns new bird and a man of the man, this guy's hopes to this was animal. Now he was he was. It was. It was down. I'll just go crank it, bro. This is what is what is the AC on full blast or something? Yeah. Probably. So weirdly cold near they don't you think they pay for heat this way to get out of this place? You think they'd be for heat here? They don't pay for heat here. No. 'cause it's hot out in the hallway. But as soon as you walk in here, it's yeah. I don't know why can't why don't we moving soon. We're moving. So guys we're, we're gonna have the new studio book. The movers today. Fuck it. I'm trying to convince Cody to just go full idiot on a super proofed vocal booth. We'll, we'll talk about that because I want to talk about my Starbucks man. I oh yeah. Not that crazy story but it was just kinda funny. Starbucks filled with just you don't know if they're homeless are not people that are just looked like they'd been there for weeks. They might have a home, but they're just there, Dr bucks for whatever reason, like so many weird ask people just loiter is like the loiter spot. So this is one dude in their eyes bloodshot, it's fucking health, Akita, either woken, up and smoke in a fab fad doing to himself or he hadn't limited or he hadn't slept for a week. Acclimated and his I, I exactly something was wrong. You look really tired and disheveled, again, I couldn't tell the clothes were like purposely distressed. They like he hadn't slept on the streets or something. And there was this girl, sanding next meet it's like like she was like British or some shit cute small girl. And, and he walks he's big, big ass, dude. And he walks up to her, and he's, like, he's like, he's stands beside her. And I was like, all know all this is about to be some hit like we talked about girls getting hit on public. I see it all the time. I'm like, more like tuned to also. I see it. So I all of a sudden I'm like damn it. This is another one of those situations. And I don't want I want witnesses so awkward, and she's standing there, and she says something to the guy, and he's like coffee, right? Literally says. And she's like she's like, yeah, yeah, he's like I need he needs over that in the morning. She goes. And she goes, yeah. And she's, and I'm like, oh, no, I'm sinking lower and lower into my. Awkward. And then he goes. David cigarette by the way, and she goes, no, I don't smoke because. Oh, okay. Thanks and just walks away. And I was like, that's fucking savage. Disguised yourself as hitting on this girl. So you could just your true intention was wanting a cigarette. He didn't want that chick. Oh, it's so funny pretended like he wanted her just cigarette. That's fucking insane. This dude. Charming bum. Charming home was do this shit. We were talking about in Venice. While I like like the dress. Oh, I got thank you. Thank you someone. That's nice. Where'd you get that? Oh, some store down the way. Oh, the one at the corner. Yeah. Yeah. I'm there are sometimes there say, look. I don't wanna come off, too strong. She's like, oh, no, not a cigarette. Oh, it. What cigarette? Oh weirdly, more attractive girls. Because then they're like I thought you wanted might yes, cigarette I want your cigarette. Pulls it out rights or number. Like other something on this one, did you have a clean? Clinches a I'm afraid to smoke that what is that? Is that a serial number? Oh, your phone number. Oh, I don't. Yeah. It's fine. I don't have a phone. It's fine. Really? You don't. You don't want it. No. No. I mean, trust me, you wouldn't want to sleep with me. I have like diseases. No, no. I, I have zero interest I do sorry. I do it on that note. So. So the, the I watch the ad for the new bachelorette season and I was thinking about the previous season and how they keep trying to like muster up this drama. And they keep bringing in these jocks who, like are developing CTE in our emotionally unstable. And this year, they just like went full blown. They got a guy who has like a thousand yard stare. Okay. This full definitely fell off a fucking tractor like stood up and was like God told me to be nice to people, and you're like, oh, shit. You're gonna snap one day. So the do like down the show and his name's Colin p as hilarious to Colin. So he referring to him as Colin p like he's a rapper. My name is Colin pin on the ladies show. Yeah. Exactly. No. It's more like yo Carlin p about a snap. Listen. My school shit. You'll call them P come up in here trip on. And so he I, I watched last week's episode where he. They basically they get into a rugby game and he walks up to a dude after tackling him. And the other dudes mad corny to super corny he goes up to him to be like, hey, bud. What the Frick is your problem and call in P C's him. Walk in tombs was calling p do what can shoves him on the Ford as like motherfucker than to taps him in the face with his knee, like a like a quick little yet, dude's not at all with the screws in this fucking brain. Can you do that on the show? No. But, I mean, technically no, but the producers are probably sitting there thinking I mean, that should have it on love island this week. They kicked guy off. I'm not caught up. Yes. All right. Does boiler. That's fine. It's just that doesn't. I mean it's just the guy it'll be a still Sylvia surprise. Yeah. Just a guy. Yeah. So he does that in the fruit in whatever it's a big deal. And I always think it's so funny when all the guys then it cuts to that night. And. All these dudes keep telling her. Yeah. That guy is. He's fucking nuts. He's crazy that you've he's crazy. And she's like oh, she's pretending like it bothers her, but I know she's like hell. Yeah. Like she's like in the shit, and just the bachelor of last season's was confirmed that he's looking like dense as Jake's. They love it when a do is emotionally unstable for that. You know what I'm saying? They just confirmed it like she's like sitting there, like, I can't believe he's crazy this dudes like outside with his shirt off. He's like I love you. I can't leave it's like thrown his on shit. Fucking smearing, poop artists fuck and thighs and her name. I can't leave the show. It's kinda romantic, she's sitting there. I just it's calling peas clearly he loves me. Peeing into his own mouth. Security outside got tasers attached to nibble that dude should be going down. Just frothing at the mouth, I will be in my mouth for you. Chelsea. I love you. Just let them inside when one on one day, I just please, please, please. Though because I'm getting caught up on love island, only on episode three in the girl Lucy. She's like I love it when guys lot is Jo jobs a little bit dangerous. Oh, yeah. You love that when a guy can almost die. Yes, she loves her. Yeah. Her last three boyfriends have all been underwater welders sick because that's the most dangerous job on her. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because, you know, you have much higher probability of just being able to walk into a new relationship, you know what I'm saying. Just dispose of themselves. Exactly. Why break up with them when you can date a guy who could just die? She's that is dark. That's actually dark. I mean, the other thing was actually, too. But that was like it was like there might be some some people that actually. Cynical. I think the worst of everyone. No, I it was weird. When so, yeah. Like the the way love island works. It's really weird having last season to remember that guy left for emotional reasons, these didn't address it on the show at all. They just like tweet same thing this time. They just tweeted said, hey, so, and so broke the rules of the show and mutually agreed with the producers that he was gonna leave them. And he was like, sort of, in the last episode like, in a couple of scenes, but they didn't even just fucking pretended. He wasn't even there. Damn beginnings, really weird them. And he was one of the ones I meant like one of the ones that he, you really get to know him that much the show. Yeah. So it's not like the biggest loss, but still fucking weird. It's inconsequential that he snapped. So apparently he him in another guy got in a fight. That's what and he had to leave. I don't know. Damn that's weird. That's that's strange. So that would suck getting kicked off that show. So, yeah. It's like that's your ticket. Yep. If you if you are on that show, that's probably the biggest opportunity, you're going to have for a minute. Yeah. Yeah. I mean is a huge one. It's a huge opportunity, especially the, the British one. I mean they all get. Yeah, bro. I was chuckling at went, so I'm at the I'm at the episode just after Tyson, fury's brother was some of his name. Tommy Tommy, Tommy Furey. First of all, simple hero name sick. You cannot be a box over that name or some or something. Tommy VERA gets in the Clinton. She throws one over white lightning gets one on him like that. The horse is looking. Oh my God. Told me he's here to crush my pussy. What will I do do when he walked in? I was chuckling. I looked at mmediately at little fucking sandwich, dude. Because that's like us on the show. Joe, like the frail kinda like skinny dude. Who's like? Funny, or whatever like that. I'm like, if there's anyone on this show that could be us. It would be him Joe really. Yes. Like one direction look. No. Not looks wise. I'm talking about like personality and know what I'm saying. Saying he's, he's. The least. Yeah. By his dudes are off every do they pay. Everyone else on the show is double Joe's bone density. 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It's like super north in the Scotsman. I'm trying to get his shit down Anton. Yeah. He's great. Looking. I see. Sorry about that. And yeah, welcome. We're gonna talk about love island for Minnesota. This full comes on the show if you don't want us to shows, his Anton, and this will walks down, and he's like yoked shit. No hair on his body. This man is is a hairless mole who the six pack and he keeps like complementing all the other dudes and a I I'm like, yeah, it was bra like some do guy benched in the first coupling and he's like, what does he say? He's like, like Coppola if you like like, like basically calling the guy attractive Nicu's talking about a beautiful. Tommy fury's is are guys Tommy here he is the brother of a super successful boxer. And he's a boxer. So I'm like, thinking is fully does he want to down a middle like what's up? But then I saw what you mean. Where he he's at that point where he's so comfortable with himself. He just like will willingly acknowledge like yeah. Like anyone's attractiveness. Yeah. Like, when they when after timing them came in, and he's like. Fucking. I'm like looking in his eyes. I'm falling in love with a beautiful. Yeah. No, I started laughing. I was like, okay, I get it. But the way they cut it makes it seem like he's got like these secret feelings and shit. That guy doesn't give a fuck Anton Anton. Yeah. Yeah. Dude is like solid like in himself. Oh, yeah. He is. Dick is fully in his own. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. He doesn't need isn't he doesn't need a girl, man. No, no. He could fuck himself. I mean he just like he just insane. He's like, okay, that's the girl. I want to go four now and he's just like ruthless. He doesn't care at all. Yeah. And they're just like, well, no. And he's like, all right. Fine next. Yeah. Yeah. So now I'm at the point where the fucking Instagram almost an online social media influencers. She's about to come on the show and scored all over it. And I'm sure it's going to ruffle the feathers. Yeah, that's a win on her Instagram is just so classic so classic just I don't even know how to describe it lasted girl that describes himself as an influence or. Yeah. It's plastic is really take that term. And like Monty it. Yeah. You know what we know what our Instagram looks like. Yeah. Nice dinners fins. It's like Hella hashtag uses and fit tease. Yeah. It's fifty. Every picture is way over filtered, smooth 'Skin and every single picture, bro. Speaking of women speaking of this did you see this one that nerd city tweeted? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's this girl this girl's Instagram. She posted a picture of her standing in front of a rice field in Indonesia, I think, and look at she's wearing on pulling it out. She's wearing a thong bathing, suits. You can basically her whole ass. And she just looking out over this ricefield just cake. Fully exposed and she's peering over this introspectively as someone is picking rice as as, as a man is picking rice from the field, and the caption that she decided to go with is thinking about how different my life is from the man picking in the rice field. Every morning. I read that I was like I cannot believe this. Well, I tweeted out, I said, is this real is this? I post real, and he says, yes, and linked the picture again. And she's updated, the caption now to this. I seem to have been extreme misunderstood in what I meant previously. Not even a sentence. And I am very aware of my privileges and how grateful I am for that. I have in my life and was recognizing how hard working and unbelievably kind, the Indonesian people are, please be kinder to one another and spread kindness and not hate. Yeah. I got all that from that picture most definitely that's exact-. And I wanna read those comments how many do of Cape. And for being like, yeah totally, like, I, I didn't think that I didn't think that at all I totally got what you meant. People are super hardworking. No. That you were just acknowledging that with your ass out. I mean but the acid isn't isn't the important port. That's all I was thinking about your ass or anything like that. It's, it's just I don't know. I don't even know. Why brought your ass up on a sleaze? I'm gonna ask I'd like in a in a respectful way I'm gonna ask hours. Yeah, you got a great ass. It's an acronym. I wanna come ways, I'm gonna come all over your ass. What what's up? Please take my donations. Please take my bits, please, please fifty thousand bits and told me love me him and ask. I mean, it's an acronym for always super respectful for women. Always super sensitive to a women's wants and needs. That's what it stands for always super sensitive to a woman's wants and needs. So you got a nice. That's fucking hilarious how like how fucking stupid. Can you bossa b? Floors me that these people, somehow make it to these countries. And like survive. Don't die like a hostile and all this shit and yet dumb enough to post that survive. I mean it just like you got. I don't know. I, I know what you mean. It's not like that's hard. But you know what I'm saying? Yeah, how did they go through day to day life? Get punched in the face all the. How did you how did you fucking? I love this phrase was lady to grocery stores and some old lady couldn't figure out how to put her debit card in the machine and everyone's standing in line and she finally gets through, and she leaves the ladies like oh, the hell does she get through the microwave? Was like, oh man. That's that's good. That's good. How do you get through the microwave the microwave being challenge is so funny like pull it up on a microwave and being like? What is this an escape room? How long do I have? Do I have? What's my lifeline was the red phone? I got a call. The red phone to the guy who's got the code. It's just gets Afria. Yeah, exactly. It's just fucking. Clown that God damn it did. Okay. All right. Popcorn or defrost. Some of a bitch, I do I do it every time. Hit the wrong one, there's a lot of there are a lot of good memes, this, it's so nice batch of memes, this week, you see the one of the two girls, wrapping in the car. Yeah. I watched that. I watched it. Cringed my teeth out. Can we play it? Can I play Mike just hit like? Yeah. Few diskette the gist. I mean we don't. I feel like I can say what to white, girls wrapping in a car to their iphone. I feel like everyone knows exactly how this is gonna sound. No, because because those videos got popular because they were good. Okay. This style like those two girls. I don't Ashley and whatever. I don't know. They were pretty good. I think they're videos kept going viral because it was actually dece. They were like decent rappers of all right. So I like I when I first saw the thumbnail for this videos like this who go either way. Yeah. This has shit tunnel likes. It's either fucking awful or SOGA. There's nothing in between. Nah. It ain't just going to be averaged. All right. Already bad. Yeah. Scattered. Toys, they wanted. Show him how? Keep claiming those things on the job. Flow. Dude. Really? Going to slide in going to have some fun. Yeah. Wait till. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. The right. Yeah. My fellow. Meet up. Okay. Ready? Get she's gonna go in to get ready. Take off on it. Get ready. Hold on. Best. Honesty. Tell buffets the chill out. Oh, boo face the till the fuck out. She that's that's blessed. His face with the two times, Snapchat filter. Yeah, yeah. That's double speed blue face right there, rush. She started taking off on that shit. I've ever heard anyone with less rhythm my whole life. Funny. Susan, no concept of like beep. Y'all people wanted to talk about how I'm single and I just can't believe that and send like complaining. It's like a poem. Saying shit. Now that's all I somebody trying to get through their fucking high school presentation. Jam through it out there. And I just like I just like to say these people switching up like some eagle. Thank you. Very nice. It's so funny. It's perfect perfectly shitty. Because these girls like, they're, they're doing the hand motions shit, too. They're like my make a mafia. Eyebrows on fleet? Blah, blah. It takes. Speed wrapping. Speed rattling. Yeah. In one verse. Yeah. Does she she killed this shit, bro? That'd be goes up there was this. Feel like I call you back like twenty minutes who's a Colby. The. All right. I love the. From? Ooh. You remind me of a of fucking bored of would your mind me of a two by four 'cause you're fucking because you're rock-solid, because you're thick. You got thick would I don't understand the discs there. I don't know what's going on, at that means. That's how good it is, is what here you're here. Yeah. I'm I'm it. And that's not even the only song Meam this week, Lance Stewart on genius. Did you see that? I've not heard the song. And I just watched the genius fucking cold dude. Yeah. They bring those people on just the car to have them made. Yeah. Just a clown them. Yeah. Does have make fun of themselves. They are higher. They really. I. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what you what, would you think it on that first line? Yeah. Sing it. Why don't you sing it? Yeah. No ever. That's what it is, is like an acapella. Thanks should perform a little bit. You should say, yes. Show me pipes. This is what your pipes. Let somebody says for singing for the past couple of years, I never thought I was like an amazing Sayer but I just love doing a hobby. And when I released a song they started it with that, they probably ask them. Hey how long you've been singing for okay because you're pretty good, man. How long have you been doing it? Just couple years, you really good for a couple years. He's what are you seeing some seeing some for us? Literate. For five-year had me feeling super down. And I think everybody said a. On too. Any visions round this place. You'll me everywhere. I don't know man. That was like yellowcard, slapped, right. There will be yellowcard slap, right there. You heard that damn song. No, that's doesn't follow. Boy, isn't it panic at the disco. Whatever man that all the same to me. They'll all in pop punk Mafa is it'd be the hitting them notes. Would you. Goes into the God. Damned. If they if we ever go on genius for anything we got a full on full on sing every verse everything. Even if it's not some whatever song, it is if it's just wrapping we have to sing it. This. Like a totem pole. Yes. When I wrote that. She's how could she with my farmers? Danny floaty flat ten. Yes. So when he wrote that. We was in a rice field and Indonesia. Just thinking about how different our lives were. And as the air hit my foot, and beautiful voluptuous cheeks. My dick was out. Yeah. Standing there dick out looking over this ricefield Medac was flapping around from the wind from the breeze, and I'm like, damn my dick is, is is to tone. Call it a phantom, ROY. So that's how I came up with the line for drip. And then Cody was admiring his own two-tone, and he was like, damn, why did kind of farmer's tan, though? And then, you know what I'm saying from there, which is like, became a movie, you know, we started seeing how like the girls start, they don't really fuck with the farmer's tan, and then he wrote the farmer's tan, you know what I'm saying? That's a bar as a bar right there. And yeah the like now. See we got a guy like into regular what we gotta relate. All this shit, too. Like deep aspects of history, like fucking shit pouring fucking shit, dude. She into animals because she fucking with the goat. Yes. On the fourteen hundreds of the Ming dynasty. They controlled like central China and and, and merchants were like persecuted for like trying to move silt, because merchant is see the see there was, there was other separate, like, like Islam community that lived in the north and they were taken over by the Ming dynasty, so they were only allowed, merchant jobs and the silk was actually removed from Turkey. I don't he's yes. So like so by pretend so goats goats were a key move. We just keep touring. The silk. You know what I think we, we got lose Evert coming in. So you guys got. I haven't fully explained the bar yet. So good. Tis crazy. Crazy information some shit is is. It's just like a factoid like like some like Twitter account shit. So sit smoking on his fuel. Some g sit. Yes. So eighty percent of people commit crime are between the ages of thirteen and twenty two. I got that from a Snapple lid. What I'm sipping GDP bit. Yeah. You know, like termites. Termites. They, they, they only have a lifespan like six years. Oh man. Oh, God forbid, they put us on that bitch. We're going to fuck would've so bad, dude. We know you get to one bar. I stole that. Still that's online. Yeah. That from someone else who was say, who him? He did. He did. He took my shit. Yeah. Just shit. So. Word. Okay. Yeah. That was mine. He took it. Did you want it back? Nope. No, no, no. It's cool. He had it. Yeah. Or or one of the bars. We just breathe. Yeah. Yeah. Or just or just we just say the line as the meaning. You know, the owner Paul he let me drink for free. I know the owner. His name is Paul and homey, just lets me drink for free. That's pretty dumb. Vol's nice guy is nice good shot up, Paul. Fuck dude. We, it's not funny if we do it ourselves like they have to bring us on. And we've got a fuck with them. And like, totally bring it home. Dammit. Well, that's what you guys have to look forward to if we ever get on genius genius genius Bah. Oh man. When when I got picked up and the Uber. You know, we can't talk about the mother fucking American Airlines said it's time to complain baby. Oh, yeah. Let's do it. Let's complain about airlines fucking complained about airlines, lock an airline, upright all social media why every form of media was invented is to complain about airlines. And that's what we're about to do y'all want us to upload another. That's cringe guess what? That's cringe American Airlines motherfucker this one's thirty minutes long. That'd be stick. That'd be the ultimate. Yeah. Complaining about airlines, dial fucking. Tune in bitch. We go off on American Airlines, we're fucked our lives up this week. We're roasting their fuck in little Disney on boarding video. You'll cut with first off all airlines enough with the Disney on samba school safety video. We don't give a goddamn fuck. You don't give up all that shit about the, the life vet that shit ain't real. I don't even know why they tell us that if a plane is going over the water. And it starts diving motherfucker go look a plane going into water, there aren't any videos because they all fucking evaporate. The physics of that shit is like running into concrete, it disappears, teases one plane that's ever landed on water. They made a movie about that with Denzel Washington. That's how and they all knew what to do because the fucking video. Yeah. Well, I'm sure. Everyone is said, this should no one's remembering the fuck in. And if the life vest is in the. Doing the choreography. The Hudson river and get the live fest outta seat. Help. Help the infants book for you. If you pull the. Up on the. So would it plays it? On and on the right babies crying, the planet of the plane. That's the hardest part of that choreography. Yeah. Front, and you can find side inside and two in the rear every time they do that. It's like, oh, I love spotting out the flight attendant that hates their life is the seat belt. There's thing, put the Schillinger fucking laze who cares? We're gonna dine this. What can she? Life is meaningless who fucking cares? Yeah. Dog that's I I'm tired of the Disney shit and the fucking there's like awards for that. I know now let's get their awards for podcasts now too. I know that's the most absurd. The dumbest shit I'd ever heard this fucking shit, the shorty awards to a podcast. What podcast needs an award? Ooh. Congratulations. You guys can talk go yourself, a nice go fussers the acceptance. Yeah. Good. Thanks. What does this award? Ooh. I can talk everyone can that's on the cool opinions. Thanks. Here's another one. Go fuck yourself. Just offended like you think it's like a personal attack. Exactly what the fuck is this, this kind of fucked up joke. Yeah. Where's Ashton Kutcher come out full? This is fucking rude, bro. Oh, congratulations. You can tell you have to fucking condescend me. You guys. Yeah. Yeah. Here's an opinion you all suck. Here's a coal opinion. Yeah. Oh, here's a year you all you want to hear me talk get fucked. Get bet is I've, you hate your suit fuck you. You look like shit. I'm out get bent homey later. It's you better not be on me. Didn't didn't them bump so yeah. Whatever the FOX. So American Airlines, these fucking assholes, they cancelled what like two hundred flights because they had the they had the death plane on the roster when it shouldn't have been it should have not been on the roster should have just been. Nope. Can't fly this plane because it's killed people is a no go. Instead, they overbooked thinking, like. We might I don't even know if that's the reason. But that's just what it seems like see like the reason. So whatever. So here here's the here's the drama, immune, Cody get to the to the airport. Right. Eleven supposed to take off at twelve we have to take connecting flight getting this fight to Pittsburgh was motherfucker because he can't get it goddamn plane to Pittsburgh from LA. There are no fucking direct flight. So we get in that bitch. Like it's pushed gets pushed, again, we're not gonna make our connection. We're like damn it. So we have to revoke to get a plane at six thirty and we're sitting in that bitch like one o'clock, really with the foot. So I'd go we removed. We booked one flight men had to book that one, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We had our flight got delayed three times. Yeah. So then we were gonna miss our connecting flights and then we had to get another flight. Yep. That one got delayed. We're going to miss our connecting flight again. So then instead we just got a brand new one on airline at six thirty and had to take a fucking Red Eye. Yeah. Yeah. So, so the knowing part was I go up to lady, and she couldn't give less of a fuck about her job. I'm like, hey. I gotta take a different airline my bag. Is on that plane. How can I get it off the plane? She's like. While you're not boarding. So they're not gonna put it on the plane. And I'm like that just seems like the lot of faith there. They do you think you want me to believe that the bag tag dude is going to scan my bag and go, oh, guys Noel isn't on this flight. This has to go back then. When you look at the bags he was fucking. Whoa in that shit. I don't care dude. Yeah. It's trying to get it out of their face. So let's say, I'm like you're sure on my because I I'm a part of a. Traveling. I fucked up myself a little bit. Just try to heighten it to try to get some fucking like a knee. Joel pay attention. I'm like excuse me. Yeah. Read the boarding pass again comfort, plus yeah. So what are you gonna do because this isn't very comfort. Plus, right? No, I go. I'm part of a part of a production right now. And there's something important in that bag. And indict I so I need to get the bag. So you're absolute sure, she's like yet, just to go. Yeah. Just go downstairs. I was like, whoa bitch. She goes, just go down a baggage claim and it'll be there. I'm like, so they're gonna take my bag just my bag and dump it out on the carousel just for me. She was. Yeah. Just go down there, I go. Okay. Okay. You just wait fine. That's exactly what I'm gonna do. And not because you told me because I wanted to want to you see the Email, that's gonna fly into your boss's in, she sternly worded. Just should you be correct here. Okay. There will not be a single exclamation. Mark will be full of periods. So I go down there and I tell this, this girl a my bag this that, and she goes. Yeah. So she you needed to fill out a form up there to get them to bring the bag down because that's just going on the plane. And I just like put my fist of on my, she's I. Yeah, I'm sorry. And then I had, and then I talked to her boss and that guy, I've never heard such a non paragraph. I'm like, hey, man. They told me this need the bag. I'm part of this and need. What's in that bag? If it stays on the plane. Is it going to go all the way through the Pittsburgh? Then that was my question. Is it gonna go all the way through Pittsburgh? He goes. Yeah. Well, in theory in theory, you know, you're supposed to fill out a form to get it released and you could have done that upstairs. So that's when you should have done it. So potentially it should land at your destination. Wait, what the fuck dude? What did you just say, was that in theory is that if I fill out the form that happens? What the fuck are you talking about some mad? Obviously, we talked to ladies, whatever my bag is going to go through the Pittsburgh simultaneously. I had tweeted American Airlines, you suck cornhole. And then tweeted it. Yeah. Okay. I laid it out. I let it out. I deleted it because I don't want to be that guy. But the tweet them, they said, oh, no Diaz, and let's see what happens. So I give them I give them like a nine paragraph like this message. And they come back with. Okay, what's your flight number this, that they go? What we see your revoked with delta were working behind the scenes with them to get you your bag. Unlike Louis I'm not flying. What are you talking about? They're like oh, see your flying out of Pittsburgh on the thirteenth. I'm like, bro. I said a new us in that bag tomorrow. And you're telling me I'm gonna get it. When I go home. There. And then they go let us look into it further. I'm like, what the fuck and their response time as like ours set like apart. So I just have hours room sitting like what my bag is going to disappear lost story short. They've lee. Sat out our boy, Nima. He was there and he intercepted the bag. They busted a wheel off my bag broke digital way. Can beg? Yeah. And like you've gotta be shitting me and was crazy. His name is like I need a bag for Noel Miller. And he said, do goes in the bag homes is like now is no bag here. And I'm like it says it's tagged and Pittsburgh. And the guy goes way, hold up and he goes back. And he's like, no. I got it. And the name is like what the fuck what happened? You literally just said, you don't have it. Now you have it a nemo's like if I didn't stay there in, like press him, he would have just been like, yeah. It's not here. He's like, I would have believed him scary as fuck, man. Yeah. Anyway, so we end up taking this Red Eye and fuck. That's, that's like we weren't in that bad of a situation. Like, yeah. We had a job to do. And we needed our gear and shit like that all things considered. It wasn't that bad. No, they worked up from American Airlines on Twitter that day because, you know, something like two hundred flights canceled across the country. Abra. And Mike Huckabee was going off. Mike Moser piss. Yeah. But the thing that got me man was all these people that were that were trying to go on vacation, these people at it get one week vacation the whole fucking year. Oh, yeah. And yeah. Used that week? And now they like people stuck in fucking like Minnesota and shit like that. Yeah. Supposed to be in Hawaii. Yeah. For the one week saved up all funding near for this vacation, and I'll paying out of their own pocket for a hotel in Minneapolis on top of the vacation in losing a vacation day out of it. I went damn that fucking breaks my heart and, and people. Tweeden about American Airlines being like oh yeah, yeah. It doesn't qualify for reimburse xactly. That's what I mean. Like I'm having to pay for all this shit because you just cancelled my flight out of nowhere. Yo the air, the airline, first of all, that was like that lady at the kale and flight customer service, who is like, you know, she goes while if you read the terms and conditions motherfucker, who who you don't you only know this because you work there bit. Like those like terms. That again gase. I'm getting pissed those terms for buying those fucking. Tickets are, such bullshit, bro. You are a multi trillion dollar company. If you're gonna fuck an offer up planes, you gotta like you can't just be like, wow. Bear plane, sometimes airplanes be like now you can't do that, man. Just airplane things. Yeah. You know how be too bad man. He liked that sometime. Hey guys, don't put pressure on us because we offer a service that's offered to millions of people and they depend on it. And it's one of a kind what, like what if your fucking had to go to your someone's funeral or something something just yet? Sorry. Don't have enough planes, route, Al, you know that. So we're going to keep the money and you did not going to the destination. But I mean it's nice here. The weather school. Shrine minneapolis. You said someone died. Your dad went to Minneapolis. No. It says a great place. You could honor him by just hanging out. You know what I'm saying? And you know it's the best place to hang on Minneapolis the delta skyline. So we tell you about that. You can get into access the sky land. Scraping to our credit card will actually even take the points. He would've got for this flight. We'll give them to you. Couple of free drinks, that's on us. That's where most to you. Yeah. That was flying sucks. Now. No, it's. Tuck who'd oh every every flight we took was seats ninety degrees. Plastic is Faulk. Yes jammed up against someone else's zero room pay hundred bucks. Upgrade to fuck in comfort, plus which is nothing. Yeah. Yeah. And they any jam these credit cards and shit down your throat. As soon as you get on the fucking planes, shitty safety videos, and ads for their damn credit card is crazy, just, oh my God, it's traveling is so stressful. That the, the last time you took a seven fifty seven, and I'm pretty sure I could have got scoliosis sitting in that chair because of the way I was positioned. It was like perfectly rounding on my neck and my back. Like I was like sitting kind of, like this, the whole time. Well, if I took enough with these planes, I would need a back brace phrase that second plane had. That's why you have a bolting. That's why have a fucking herniated talking about that. Hey, I got a herniated disk in mind. I'm going to go see what's up with that today. But yeah. Could that like that plane had no room that was crazy? I couldn't even reach down, like my there like this lady, put your laptop under the seat. I might if I put onto seat it's just going to disappear. And it did that it went under. And when the plane took off, it's slid back and the guy behind me just happened to catch it. But I'm sure that would have gone straight to the back of the plane. I'm like, oh, there's my laptop, it's gone. Now. Was that was that was funny, too because everyone's overhead bin was was the person in front of them. Everyone's like, oh, my, my thing is back there. I love I love win. Moms are about to ask a question and they feel uncomfortable. They always put their right hand close to their ear those like a like a open like they're about to hit like a button on a fucking like blow something up their thumb like hangs out like a Hitchhiker's thumb, but they put up to the Kenneth. There's the if I come in four can I just and then the pointer finger comes at? Yeah. Just the thing sorry. Was watching this mom, like, stand to get her bag for way, too long with the thumb close to her ears. Yeah. Sally, I wanted to screaming her, like just fucking ask for your bag lady have some balls. I got to say we had, we had Burger King right before. Right. I flight the going out. I take some markets. I said, what do I give them Burger King, because he's a big Burger King connoisseurs became says whopper and chicken fries do what I get and smashed the whole thing smoke. Demolished and we get on this redeye flight and I don't think I've ever ripped us more on a flight four hour period. I probably farted hundred fifty eight times. And I do I cut the cheese, the whole flight. I was waking. I know. But they were like kind of smell this. Oh, so you're going. You're just going to guess couple, I didn't really smell the guy beside me fell asleep. And so I was like I'm free to do it. He baby. You're your sleeping. This leading rib going off go off. King go off. Did. I was ripping stinkers brochure. Yeah, that Burger King. Buck me. Oh, yeah. Brutal destroyed pretty good though. Burger King say crispy. Yeah. Let's good chicken fries. Will look y'all. We got to be about. Thank you. All to Ronald ticket purchasers you to shit. I'm coming home, baby. Okay. We're really call it home, sort of. I don't even remember where I live. My dad talks about this house. We lived in. I don't. Yeah. Sounds cool. I've no recollection. What else Montreal all going fast? Maybe there's still tickets. Montreal, mafia film. I'll see boo Koo going super-quick. So get get tickets to that just for laughs and. Yeah. Toward dot com. And San Luis abyss booze. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds available for that to go. So are we call that nor Cal? It's made cow. May know we you did that. Yeah, whatever. No saying. Sometimes when the mistakes have been we both got it. We, we definitely typed it out. Cody types, the first letter. I typed a second letter third one who was a it was a team effort. You know what I'm saying because we didn't have enough space on the plane when we were posting the ship. So we had to like share the keyboard. We're getting kicked off stem, baby. No way. Yeah. Why they're kicking off everyone. That's not like a giant artist or something. The fuck. It's like you have fifteen days to transition, your content to tune core so annoying dude, we got a this time to complain again. Uh-huh. We're not done. We come in for you or sex city s website dot com. Keep an eye on your Email, who's going to be some sternly worded in there. We'll see if there's any exclamation marks in this Email, bud. I'm gonna put a middle finger my signature. That's what I'm gonna do.

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The Long Lost Explorer #7 - Anton Zhernosek (Minsk, Belarus)

The Long Lost Explorer

3:33:32 hr | 7 months ago

The Long Lost Explorer #7 - Anton Zhernosek (Minsk, Belarus)

"All right three to one. Hi everybody and welcome to the seventh episode of the Long Lost Explorer podcast my name's specify skin and I am your host. Today, we have Anton who is over in means Bellarusse for those who don't know there is a lot of things going on due to the presidential elections that happened. it looks like there might have been some corruption on some obvious corruption which why most of the citizens are protesting it And we've been getting a fairly weird amount of information and not necessarily clear information over in the US. So I want to bring light to the situation, and so I reach out to Anton Online and he agreed to do the podcast and I will not be saying his last name because of some reasons with the governments and some of the censorship that's going on over there, which will be talking about. So please welcome Anton Anton. Hello. Yeah. Hi, it's Nice. It's nice to be here. I could just tell even talking before you were you were super excited to do this and. It seems like you have a lot of things that you want to say. Yeah, I've been I'm like a little bit nervous, but I'm also really really excited to do to be doing. Instead of getting morning to, you should just got a shot of vodka whatever you drink. It would relax you a little bit. No. what is be I wouldn't be able to talk at all. It's like Walker right now. So I, know the Russian kind of stereotype is vodka. Over there. Do you guys have a stereotype for a drink alcoholic drink over there or is it just vodka because they lump you in? Well. It's probably still vodka because we are essentially like all the polls. Soviet. Countries are essentially the same culture or at least similar in terms of their culture since what car has been the traditional product made in Russia well, you know. Of stuck with literally. Every country I gotcha. We're actually not that not that far from Russia in terms of our own culture and. Actually one of the most to drinking nations worldwide like official statistics no, no joke one really. Yeah, seriously I'm serious. Yeah. Oh I see. WHY DONALD THAT KINDA blows my mind. Yeah, it's true. I mean there are some psychiatrists that have done statistics on alcohol consumption and it's estimated that our healthcare costs well Ju just to clarify a little bit. Well I'm also in the medical field, right? and And so I know if you things about here and there and I might mention a few things you've mentioned how you WanNa talk about Rona situation. So we're probably going to go down that rabbit hole for a bit. but anyways, skiers when I was trying to make Our our healthcare is essentially three which means that the government pays for the vast majority of it. And also the government is charge of alcohol selling. and. It's been estimated lies psychiatrists that the costs of healthcare associated with Al, alcoholism are actually ten times higher than The prophet that is made from selling alcohol. Wow. It's absolutely insane if you think about it. Yeah do do you feel like it's because I don't know too much about a Belarus economics but D-. Believe it's due to the poverty the poverty in your country. With the highest alcoholism. I wouldn't say it's HYPO- vity. I would say a lot of it is tradition. I mean back in the USA saw the way to keep people quiet unhappy was to actually feed them with alcohol how I didn't sing people start hold on. Interrupt cert-. Sorry to interrupt I didn't. I pop poverty like basically essense spell. Belarus is kind of a poorer country. Yeah this is this is. Yeah I mean it doesn't have to do with property. Flora country, but I think it has more to do with culture. It has a lot more to do with culture arrival than poverty in my opinion. Okay. Because you know it has been traditionally an agricultural country of for award of its existence and It's hard work for the people you know. So they would gather, they would out or call. There's like a they missed tradition of a gathering by three people. So it's because a bottle of vodka would be out for three people to spend the evening. Blake? A lot of those, a lot of those. One. Of those agricultural companies were actually supplied with alcohol to laws to keep the people. Happy. So you know it's more of a tradition rather than anything and we see that younger generations who were not brought up by the use saw their action consuming much less alcohol than the older generations. Because the tradition kind of changes as time. and yet another curious fact that actually. Well. Another curious fact is the wages actually you mean, you mentioned that is because we poor, but there was an interesting experiment people in some areas have for all of a sudden started receiving a more money. It was of the support, one of the economic support and stuff and see a surge in the quality of life. In fact, we saw a surge in consumption of heavier alcohol. So. Yeah. So people people who own the more they didn't stop consuming alcohol. They just started consuming heavy alcohol because they could afford it like more expensive. Things. Oh wow that's crazy. Yeah I I'm familiar with a culture just because I if anything Russian and Bella Bell Belorussian is Somewhat. Similar I. Feel like to the most part I feel like you could probably say a lot of differences and stop, but I feel like. I feel like you know just going out and having a barbecue at the park and stuff like that. You have some your Shish, Lick your vodka, your tomatoes, and you know vegetables and stuff like that. It's just it was just a common thing. So I just noticed I didn't necessarily drink a lot of vodka but I drank it frequently when I was over there just because it was just of like you know we're here like seeing your house vodka, get have some alcohol and. Stuff like that. So yeah, that that that is something I kind of know. So it was kind of interesting so. Kind of going. People. People. Really love their vodka and it's cheap and easy to make, and it's forty percent alcohol. So you know it's easy to get drunk. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely. So I kind of wanted just jump in with everything that is going on. So I know you kind of. Paired everything. So I, just want a I not going to ask. Are I'm just GONNA ask questions and just chime in by just want to basically give you this platform. So with the election and just politics in general. Kind of start from the beginning and go back as far as he wants going up to the elections and up to now, and what you see forward I I see that that's the direction the conversation I wanna go to so we'll happen. Ex Show. Actually. Well, let me start a little bit At, from from a little bit, do something different you know, let's talk the elephants in the room because I've also made the image for the podcast and I want to know your impressions on it like this. This is a compilation of some photos that are of the things that are currently going on and I'm I'm curious as to what your opinion on this. Like well, you know the Incheon I am. So you know with everything that's going on with the riots got feel like I'm being interviewed at like this So I feel like what I see everything going on in the In with the riots and the protests in my country, I feel like they are two very different things obviously one we're not dealing with elections when I go on it and when I go on Media Post, I do approach it with some skepticism just because Media can twist things. But and you have to kind of see how the people are interacting with the cops. So are the COPS justified to? Attack their at attack their citizens if they if if there's justification for it so let's say in our country I see. A. Lot more angrier and more violence riots in in our country and so. Sometimes when people record it, they tend to depict it as the cops being bad and they selectively edit it, edit it out. But a lot of the footage I've been seeing over in year area It seems like things were just pretty calm I mean most of the videos I've seen like A. There is a guy, there is a car driving by and This cop just takes a baton and just smashes one of the windows as the car was driving by, and he eventually arrests have like an older man or something like that, and you could clearly see these long videos with a lot more context with just straight up corruption by the as the police. The spat not I think it is I. Don't know if Spetnaz that's out. There are just the actual please. I pretty ignorant on this. So please correct me you know if I'm wrong on anything but it does seem like. there is a there is much less or no justification for how the. Police are treating your citizens and it seems like everything is really peaceful. They're not riding. They're not. You know shooting anything or attacking the COPS in any way they're just kind of. There being a lot more peaceful than they are here and they're still attacking and beating the hell out of them. So it looks really bad from what I've seen but again, I'm pro- I'm approaching it. Just. Without a bias or anything and. So far I have seen it does not look good for the government and the police. Oh. Yeah definitely. I'm sorry first and foremost the media you know I I believe there is a lot of information wars going on right now and not all of the media can be trusted. that's absolutely for sure. This is a topic that I wanNA breathe a mention I WANNA BE Briefly mentioned later because information's being manipulated left around as to what is going on. But generally, we're starting from from damage than. This is pretty much a compilation of how things. Were a beer right now at least it's a a lot of peaceful protesters and the first days of the riots where C in we've seen insane violence light comes to the people who participated. You can see. Well, the image makes plain like the image a little bit and my idea behind a fly I made it. So essentially, it's the white red white flag, which is a historical flag of Bill Larousse when it received its independence. Well as the white stripes I've decided I've decided to wake spread them into what is actually happening and how there is violence going on. So, what is happening actually for the most part is that people make a very peaceful protests. So you see lines of You see you see people making huge lines of support. You see people making large crowds chanting the they are demanding freedom that they want our president to go away. there is in the middle of this there is a go with the post that says, we all love and it's kind of the theme behind it because we are not a violent nation, it's not like the US where the people just riot the lutes they destroy everything the most the Mo the biggest protests by far has a good yesterday. So we're recording it for me. It's Saturday morning and the biggest protest actually a good yesterday. On Friday, on Friday evening people a lot of people went to independence where and essentially the whole street was filled with thousands of people. there was no forced used actually zero force used. There were a people standing in front of important buildings protecting them but they went doing they went through an anything. There were just a few people with shields and in full suits of armor but they weren't really fighting anything the wound protecting anything really. They were just standing there and there was a peaceful crowds like right the upgrade in front of them. There some you know there was some buses was militia was leased that came the Kim round circling was like riot lease was some military. It was new around they were parking nearby people have seen that. But no forceful measures were taken against the protesters and they simply left afterwards and I think the biggest a the two biggest things that impressed me the most and show how peaceful our nation really is. Is that people started? To rise these that were standing in front there were girls who ran at them and hug them just like. Took pictures will standing by with them they give they give them flowers, they put flowers on their shields like literally. Yeah it was amazing. And another thing is that. Everybody loves and there was no trash everybody took. Everybody took out the trash though the street was clean before people started protesting and the streets remained clean after people stopped the protests. One thing to notice what one thing I have noticed with your culture. You guys really do pick up after yourself and that and that's different from a lot of. It just just year a just the not even the Belorussian, but just the Slavic Culture I've noticed is very clean. You guys. It's kind of ingrained in the culture to kind of clean up after yourself and I I've noticed that in just kind of around your area, I might be wrong about some other Slavic cultures. But I noticed that it seems like the culture is very good at picking up their trash. Strewn we are. Actually our cities are incredibly actually one of the cleanest ones in probably the entire world. Part of the culture as well to be clean and peaceful soul and so on. So Let me continue about the image. So I've mentioned briefly flowers and it's a tradition that has well, it's not related tradition, but it's the emergency and emerging tradition of sorts. These riots is that people of by a lot of flowers there they are covering the streets with flowers. They're always shown with flowers they put flowers in places where people died during the first days of the riots. It's kind of interesting discovery. In my opinion, it just goes to show a little bit more humanity with our mutual. But then on the bottom half is the stuff is the bad stop that is happening I mean the center of it is well, the one person that we are going to talk about the laws today WHO's currently in power, and then two sides of it is the violence that's shown against the people. in most of it, I would say is true. So you know these are pictures taken by the people. You can see a riot police shooting at people. I mean, you've mentioned how you seen them yet cars and it's absolutely true. They've been just stopping drivers taking the mild breaking their cars and then detaining the drivers it's There's footage over right snow it's not. It's not like any of the any of this stuff is being manipulated. I. Mean. You can see a protest or the I mean to, in fact, photos of protesters that are just being gang Daban, and one of those protests it's like actually there's a series of photos of him well, not issues but like to photos of him on the first photo you. Can See this. Well, protests are maybe I shouldn't say, Bro, this is just A. Just, a random guy billion you know you can see him trying to hand flowers to the right bullies and I'm on the second photo ledges hitting him. Hitting him they're just beating out trying to detain him. and. Some of them are horrible things you see on the rights it's the people suffering amidst those protests from fluence from being beaten down from From, all the flash BANGS and such, and the most shocking one was actually the police beating up five year old girl who is sitting there in the corner. it's it's actually. Why I found real some some all photos have started emerging recently as well because they've been releasing people from detention and a lot of those people from tensions, they have some really severe wounds is. Absolutely inhumane what is being done done to them prisons. Now. Jesus I. I JUST WANNA ask why do you think? They would attack like a five year old is it like to send out a message? Well, let me put it like this every. Everything that they are doing like trying to try it's using heavy fullest. All of it is indeed to send the message and the messages that you shouldn't be rioting the messages up. I mean the message is that you shouldn't be protest the regime. All of it is there but attacking a five year old, it's just absolutely inhumane beating up of prisoners taking people out of caused, beating up the cost for no reason whatsoever, you know killing people was Voice when they haven't done anything this is all. We'll just. Way Too much. Yeah I would I would say my opinion on right elise will rightfully. So the topic we can go down a little bit as well later but in my opinion, they're just hounds trains to do the trains to take orders and they are absolutely inhumane. Just, what are we literally bloodhounds? They haven't order and they're gonNA do it like if it if the order says like Gil Ten people something, they're just GonNa do it. At a what. Maybe. There's maybe there's like some humane sight to the because we've seen a lot of we haven't seen the really bloody protests the where let good in the first three days because the first three days they were absolutely the worst. People. Were the riot police just started flatter banning people and shooting people out of nowhere absolutely out of nowhere. And the last couple of days they were really really peaceful. They went off detained people there were very well, not very few but like relatively few injuries and most of the injured people that have started coming in where people were released from detention centers. Like the people who went out fest as softened, the most and right now, a lot of peaceful citizens we're never going to resort to any violence coming out like there's a lot more of them. Have you actually been in. Have you actually been out or have you just been staying inside? I've been mostly staying inside throw a actually wanted to do this August. I mean. This is your protest. yeah I mean you can manipulate or I mean not. Money is things but you can help in numerous different ways I mean you can go out and you can join those protests. You can also spread the word and I've been trying to mostly spread the word about. So yes, kind of my way of doing protests. Yeah I mean, yeah there is a lot of different forms of ended I. Obviously, we're going to go into it but we but you are basically saying basically what you were saying right now and doing is technically illegal. Would you mean? Just your IRA and speaking out against the government and pointing out there corruption. I wouldn't say they're like an official award that says, you can't. You can't spread any information about the government's, but there is one law you know there's one law that I I don't know if I mentioned that before we started recording maybe when we're testing. Connection and stuff. About there's one criminal actually that prohibits lying and and like infringing on the. fringing about like what what is the woods looking for? But like well, basically spreading lies false rumors and stuff about the president. So We'll reaches status lowering his reputation and and all of that. Yeah it's actually it's actually illegal and it's a criminal act that is punishable. But. But I'm not going to be spreading anyways of false information everything that I am about to say today is Iza available completely on the Internet you can search for all those things because I've also such throw those things I mean people do gather information out somewhere. And second of all, those are going to be my opinions and I'm not stating those backs I mean you can disagree with me. On on every opinion that I present that's no big issue here. Oh and one of the other things that I wanted to address well. You went Went on with some other thought I wanted to comment on it previously. But now I've just I've just remembered my comment right now. So you know about the information was in my opinion, the most the most objective way to assess any situation is by being an outside observer of it. So you know if you're involved in a situation, Leonard becomes a lot more difficult for you to be absolutely critical and non judgmental about what is going on. I may not be the best person when it comes to assessing the situation from the outside because you know I'm I live in the country I see the people I know a lot of people have been going out and And I'm also rooting for the of for things to change as well because this is my former protest you know. Yeah. So my perspective is actually skewed, but I also tried to remain as impartial as possible. So a lot of things that I'm going to be talking about they're not really. They're not really a matter of my own opinion. They're a matter all how things were like a historical kind of. Perspective on things Yeah. Well and on the other hand. I think that when it comes to my opinion, it would be interesting for people to hear them because not a lot of people talk about Bill Bill Belarus outside of billers. So everybody has been completely in the dog as to what our political situation has been the you has made some sanctions. The US has well, the the EU and the US have not recognized any of the constitutional changes, an elections after nineteen, ninety four. So. People have been aware sort of that way that we will living in a of that situation. Even a lot of the outsiders that I've talked about one the will win the ask you although ruse they ask you a whole does it feel to live in a dictatorship? So people are aware over to point, but they're also don't know just how bad things can get realistically. And what's interesting is that after every major political event in our country, there's been some kind of disaster worldwide to literally distract the attention out of Out of our situation like the major. End Well. There's a list of it. I'm not gonNA mention all of them. I'm not GonNa roll the mentioned some. Berlin GonNa GonNa make any really good example skier, but you can find the lists of those events. It's like a major political event and then some global catastrophe and I'm not I'm literally no joke. You like nine eleven in terms of US happened. Maybe like a day or two after the elections in Belarus ways, and one of the most important ones to is over shine cut remained in power. To. Mow. Interesting changes. And then the words heuristic acts they're aware some major protests in the world. So everybody was distracted from from US and now. we are slowly becoming the center of attention. So this is actually what I'm hoping for as well because once. You reach a critical mass. There's no there's no turning back now. The, the protests are kind of reaching that critical mass right now in my opinion, because the world is becoming a lot more focused on us and it has ever been the protests are becoming E-. Larger they have ever been and the distrust. Full. And he's a and his government has become so severe that this critical mass has been reached right now in my opinion. Yeah. It it. It is really interesting because you guys are just a little country next to Russia I mean that's all I. Thought about and I I was obviously interested to visit because you are you know group together and with the Slavic culture and I thought it was would be an interesting place to go. But with on the Kobe nineteen thing happening I didn't really I wasn't able to go but I'm still interested in seeing your country it looks beautiful and it. It's sad to hear that you guys have a was it sounds like to be a lot of corruption going on right now. Well. Yeah. It's true and we're GONNA start look eating at the situation like we've already probably I'll done ourselves in terms of reductions in such. I feel like it's an appropriate time to start talking about what is actually going on what's been happening in our country and you're probably going to see that the corruption was there from the very start of it is just been very well hidden until pretty much reasonably. So. So yeah let's let's start. From the beginning, let's let's go to the beginning and as far back as one you to. You know to what's led up to this so I'm not a historian. This is one of the weaker wings weaker like. That one's of mine but I WANNA. Briefly mentioned the flag again. So the white red white flag, which is a symbol of Bill Richardson independence. If you compare the two flags, the white red white flag and the one right. Now, you can see some major differences obviously and you might be wondering why we are using the white red white flag what's being behind it because it's shown everywhere in the protests. And Wipe are not happy about the new. So the white white flag is a traditional symbol of Belarus and independence because it was the first flag that was used when those became independent from Russia. Actually and it might be like and it was a long while ago. It was nineteen twelve will nine, hundred, nineteen or something like this. Well, it was the beginning of the twentieth century back. So the white red white flag represents independence and. Historical rumor as to how it's a did oh first and foremost Belarus. was traditionally called Bill Rush. And I which means why Russia So our well. A tradition was to wear white clothes was to essentially associated. Ourselves was white as in also Buell, and it's this purity is also why which fine to remain peaceful and while it does also trying to remain peaceful throw a lot of people budgeting, white flowers I mean you can see on the pictures that there are a lot of red ones widens and Yellow Johnson will all kinds of flowers, but the vast majority of protesters are also using white. White collar white flowers as symbol of peace and that we are very, very clear. Very calm nation. That is peaceful and friendly bought. There is also a huge. Huge. historical gross one can do in terms of the wars that we've been fighting. Our country has seen a lot of wars and and we were at the front side because we're kind of the country lots separates Europe and Russia, and so a lot of the things that were happening those in Europe and Russia have affected us. When we? We are also part of the Russia, we were own the verge essentially becoming Europe to. Of But anyways. So anyways, here's. Uses the point I'm trying to make quotes when one of the wars was fought one of the yeahs one. which is well, am the biggest political figure which was like the head of a country back in the day. It's what he was called six. He went in battle and he's go ahead got wounded. So he was he was bleeding and he put white cloth over it to To continue the to continue the fight and fight for his independence. So this white cloth it became bloody red was well, there was this red stripe according to the legend Ans- this white cloth became the symbol of. Independence So literally, this flag like white piece of close was white piece of cloth was blood in it, which is symbol that we FIGHTING FOR OUR INDEPENDENCE INTERESTING anyways So let's continue We have been an independent country from Russia ever since realistically the has there has been a going on in the Soviet. Union, which is union where everybody to help everybody and eventually it's apart in nineteen ninety-one. which is no secret to anyone. So after that the country's aware on really bad terms with Charles or especially Belarus because. was then regulated by the parliament it. There was no president back in nineteen ninety one. and. The country slowly descended into poverty because we want to remain independent from anybody of, but we also we're not a very advanced country at the time. We don't really have any natural resources like oil gas. Most of the stuff that we sell in terms of gas and oil comes from Russia even nowadays. but. people slowly started descending into really huge poverty. There was a lot of corruption. There was a lot of crime because of that, and the people were starting to feel threatened by the wall. I mean our suvival was essentially on the line and the parliament didn't really want to. The didn't didn't really wants to take care of the situation properly off of it was corrupted heavily as well. at least. Well, that's what I'm what to believe. I'm I'm not again I'm not a historic I'm not a historian. I haven't studied excessively those events, but this is my general impression of. And is what a lot of major major politician school are. A savvy in terms of this era, this is how they described the situation as well. Welcome. So in Nineteen ninety-four the the parliament's made a decision is that we? are going to now become a presidential republic so Elections had to be conducted. We had to choose a president and he would represent us. Our Constitution bag then implied that we would have a president. He would take care of some executive stuff but not more than that like he was still severely limited by the parliament by the jurisdiction by laws by legislative power. essentially, it was kind of way A. Kind of like a Westernized Republic we were trying to become more Western. More acquainted with other countries who were seen as progressive and maintain being able to maintain their own independence being able to take care of their own people. which was Very good goal because we would be receiving some support that we needed. This turned awry wide quickly. So in nineteen ninety, four Wilkerson was elected as the president of Belarus. So I wanted to also talk a little bit about him. Well, this is going to be a lot of talk about him because he's been in charge for six years and most of the bad things. Most of the well, there's some good things that he's done. Let me put it like this, but they're also of bad things that he has done. before those elections he has been a relatively minor politician actually. But he But he has drive towards. Perfection. Like further further and further. And one of the most notable things is that. In one, thousand, nine, hundred, four when he he eventually came in power well. Before before the nine hundred, ninety, four elections, I mean, he actually opposed the regime himself than. he would try to remove people fit on official terms. He was going to address legislative power to remove people from power was essentially the leader of the opposition back. Then because he also organized protests keep them. Beaten himself like you see a lot of people suffering now because they abusing up from being protesters, he was actually one of the protesters back then and he was one of the people trying to lead the opposition against the regime that was back. Then how ironic. Yup It's actually one of the reasons I. think she is the opposition so much is because he himself was the person who led the opposition and who was successful in taking down the a really bad regime. He literally knows from the inside, how to how to manipulate the situation in his advantage and He like he knows of Eve suppresses the roots down. There won't be big problem, but we're also going to be talking about his mistakes in my opinion. Though. Is Ruling. So anyways the situation in lines ninety four it's socked absolutely like it was absolutely horrible. People were fighting for independence. God's this was this game at a huge loss because we went strong economical country back then and we have never actually been strong economically on our. this has not changed I, mean you've already asked me about your own impression of the country. You said, the people live in the and a lot of it is true I. Mean we have some of the lowest wages in in any of the modern countries of the world. There was a lot of inflation back. Then there was there was no food for people were making lines to get some bread wake huge lies people had no idea when their next would come I mean. This situation is commonly described in the US Assadourian Stalin's regime when people were were we're hungry or where shelterless, when they were trying to fight for their survival and kind of the situation that is being described the as well. Belarus in nineteen ninety four. There was a lot of corruption amongst government officials and their and the crime rate was also through the roof because you know people were trying to fight this survival. So a crime is always gonNA skyrocket on when people are in trouble. when it comes to look he again he was he was trying to fight the regime he. Went into legislative power to. Try and make well. Yeah legislative went into legislative power to try and remove certain people from from working within the government. He was directly opposing them. He was having debates was the key saying that these people are corrupted that they need to be removed Allah country would would only get better without them and also proposed some really simple ideas for the people once the day really needed to hear bags them. He just kept cheese program to a very, some very, very simple statements like we would be fighting corruption. We would be fighting crime will you would be feeding you and then to feed you, we would be We would be making some I mean. We would be asking. Russia. For help. So we have no gas we have no money. You have the oil, all of those things where they are going to contact Russia we're going to. Become friendly with them. They are going to support us and then when we eventually. Come through with from. Breakthrough when we on the crisis is over, we're going to remain independent free and have a really good life. So these ideas were really well received by the people there was simple and easy to understand like we're going to do this and we're going to receive those So it's Very understandable for them and he's in terms of his personality is he has been really ruthless all the time feel as impulsive. And it's a he's man he's manner of speech is also like that by going talk about his personality a little bit later on, which is a specific point that I want to mention. But those ideas sounded convincing and he also sounded convincing because he seemed like a person who just came out of the common people. I he He seemed like common folk like most of the most of the country bag than has been common folks like they've been a specialized in agriculture. They've been normal people trying to live their lives and seemed like one of those people back then. So, in a way he was So they're in a way he was the most representative candidate for the people because he was proposing their own interests was actually he was saying what the people wanted to hear back them my opinion. And this is how the first elections went is it had to. A two rounds of lower two rounds of elections. In the first rounds, he had about forty five percent of the votes, and in the second round, he had eighty percent of the folds. Yeah. Which means he won and I'm GONNA. I'm GonNa Return those eighty percent of because I just keep the number in mind for for now you might you might already be familiar with outnumber from recent elections as well. It's GONNA I'M GONNA I'm GonNa Talk. I'm going to talk a little bit about it like give my opinion on it. And those were the most legitimate elections by far by the bill larussa. By Bill roussines since it's like there was a lot of corruption, but they'll also was no real political interest in. in falsifying any elections for full one of the candidates. The. Most popular candidates were actually the went part of some major body, the word just A. Populous essentially that point. See that they were independent. Yep. Yep and there were there was no interested in old spine election. So those eighty percents where where we're and those elections were acknowledged as unbiased, fair and true by pretty much everybody in the world. So this is about the nineteen ninety, four situation. Well, I'M GONNA move to the post-election things. Maybe there is something that she would like to discuss here. The post-election. No the the elections themselves like is there anything that maybe isn't so very clear Michael Nations. No everything's going good so far I'm just kind of I I I'm just I'm sitting in the backseat and I'm just letting you drive. So I'm just taking all of this in right now. So just keep going on explaining everything it's just fascinating me. Oh. Sure. anyway. So often elections a lot of the problems emerge with local SHANKA. essentially as the people as the people say it in his first suit in his first two years of frame he's true colour starring to started to show up. there's a very famous. Called you'd is hiding cash who was the the Minister of the Ministry of the Journal Affairs I'm going to address it as mia just or maybe like internal affairs just just the weekly from that one's because there's going to be a lot of talk about internal affairs as well. Probably. anyways there is really famous quote on him that he's drew color started showing up like off to within will not after like within the first year after he was elected. That he said that he as a minister had to enforce any kind of order that the president gave him or else he would be jailed detained and while taking care of but it simply. and a lot of people reported. The same kind of thing is that he essentially wanted to grab all the power for himself wanted everybody to. you wanted everybody to. Obey his orders like he knew everything was going to do everything but Kenneth Older people simply to obey. And the Youth Inca is a also a person we're going to be mentioning quite a bit. So I want you to remember him. So was the menace dovan tunnel affairs, bags and background LUKASHENKA started He's his presidency and Joe said one of the most important things that I want you to the mind about the regime overall. It's one of the best descriptions that I have heard so far. So he said that if you work, well, you just keep working in your own place but if you obey the commands that you give them, then you're going to get promotes hides is up to the higher ups. On Eli. is to say while he was fired very very quickly. He was fired the following a on the after the first year all focusing on 'cause presidency. He thought he was that he told the president's the truth, the whole truth and he wouldn't bend. Essentially. He wouldn't back away from it. You wouldn't bend he would say that. Certain. Things were impossible for him to do and so on. He He gave him a run for his money centrally. anyways, then one of. Supporters also began charter. e- became the he became the head of the Central Election Commission. it's a commission that in our country counts of the votes and it's and there's Jason I. Don't know if you cut her she figure in our country but maybe not to an outside observer, she's been a in charge for a very long time counting votes for him and many people. Believe that she is in charge of corrupting and falsifying the elections. Well. So anyways back then Char he was actually one of the. one of the representatives of Lukashenka income back in one, thousand, nine, hundred, four, and Sochi received a place in charge of the election comedian. but he he he berry quickly started seeing that Lukashenko was trying to. to do some really really bad things he made. He made numerous Say this low shit. I'm forgetting the what we'll anyways each of broke the constant, the constitution of white a wall and was a charming and char was in charge of uncovering all those allegations He was the person who tried to initiate the president's impeachment. In nineteen ninety six. So in his two years well. In his two years of presidency. Starting from nine, hundred, ninety, four to nine, hundred, ninety six. There were a lot of conflicts going on between the President Shanka and the parliament because Belarus had previously been the a parliamentary country, and now it was striving to become a presidential republic. So the parliament had a lot of rights and all the also and the president had few rights, but not nearly as a as much as the parliament was still in charge. RONCO BY. Lukashenko was trying to break the Constitution quiet award. He wanted to have a absolute power over pretty much everything and all of conflicts between him and the Parliament started to occur. So in Nineteen ninety-six. The president's is. Impeachment was brought in question. People proposed people will the parliament and the president boasts they proposed a to make changes to the constitution I. It was the first referendum and the were whole bunch of questions. Constitution, the state of affairs in Belarus. which were raised. And so I, me look at my notes a little bit. Well, anyways So the constitutional changes in one, thousand, nine, hundred, six where actually won by the president. So he's propositions to change the constitution received of the most amount of votes which were. Presumed to be rigged back then and when and the president of the President's constitutional changes game in place of Viktor Gonchar was fired he the impeachment that was supposed to occur just sort of died down by that point. So, so let's talk. Let. Me Briefly mentioned the most important ones from nineteen ninety-six. So essentially is the president has a death point became one of the main One of the main branches of power. Essentially the West we are always like talk three branches of Fowler but then resident actually became at force and he sort of became the on top of them like he could make. Any of the season's re much in the country. I'm going to I'm going to talk a little bit later about the system we have a few things. Got So previously. the parliament could conduct national referendums. Now the president could. So it means that by having falsifiable elections and Being able to conduct a national nationwide referendums, he could essentially make any changes to the constitution that he would deem necessary. Then, he could also choose the highest representatives of the country. You could choose the government, the government's highest general attorney choose all the ministers issued also. choose the the head of the Central Election Commission, which he did he fired. Gonchar and choose other person I. I would say you must not who is the current fun but I'm not sure if she became. The head since ninety, four, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety, six. So I'M GONNA. Amid that? And also he could choose all of the judges of the High Court system. In fact, a lot of the people showed their disregard for the constitution of the prime minister left. She's supposed the and a lot of the judges from the high. Court. They also have their position as a sign of protest, but it didn't really matter because ski essentially put any person that he wanted in power mouth. And also, he gave himself legislative rights. So he could make decrees from now on and what's interesting is out presidential decrees where actually above any of the current laws. So if they contradicted any of the current laws or is there was any question about legislation down presidential decrees would be considered as a the highest. Of Truce. That point. I'm already seeing the recipe for disaster. Yup. Yeah this is and and mind that we can. We're talking nine, hundred, Ninety six at this point I know yeah I we have a long way to go. Yeah What has changed what has changed since that point, but you can see that the corruption was there from the start of it like literally from the very start of IT skills So anyways, charter was still one of the leaders of the opposition back then and he was preparing proof that we'll go shankar an illegitimate president. Also you to hiding. we previously mentioned as minister of Internal Affairs. was removed from his post and he actually became one of the first leaders of the opposition within the country. A lot of. Very respected really by the military man was done to him. So the first position had a lot of military people within them and it was it was absolutely horror horrific or the president I mean when The military rebels against you, it's a it's scary to stay least. And he ends hiding co was also. Really. Really Smart Person I mean, if you I mean you don't know Russian sadly, but the people could no Russian. They can listen to some of the things that he said it's he represents himself as a very smart, very, very critical person he's just he has like. An oral. He shines was trust when like this? Like he would just looks like a person who you can trust, you can put your trust and to. So. anyways. the opposition started gathering around him and the movement was starting to spark. They were doing the same kind of things that people doing right now that we're using the white white flag and they were marching the where standing in front of major buildings in the city protesting the government's saying that the government is becoming more and more corrupt and to look Asanga should be impeached and stuff. but the movement suddenly stopped when the hiding just mysteriously disappeared one day. And then the same thing happens to Char Then Charles was trying to gather proof that look schenker was illegitimate leader that he has broken a lot of the constitutional rights that he's trying to achieve absolute power. But, all of that failed as well because he was the second leader of the like the second major leader of the position and the same fate happened to him as well like what are we a few days before he was going to present the proof that he had found he just mysteriously disappeared as well. In two thousand and one a few reports where filed on some higher ups that they were involved in the disappearance of both of those those on just to two major to major people right. There were a more like the the the people who supported them. Financially and They is a lot of them also disappeared without trace. It it was also confirmed by. The Minister of internal. Affairs that's A few pistols with silencers were given out on the days of their disappearances. So their fate remains unknown bots no investigational veal investigations have been conducted right now we sadly will never know the truce a hot what happened to them, but we can presume what happens to them. Those, they are very, very likely that. anyways, and one of the laws changes about the general the general. Electoral process and the randoms we need to know about is that another referendum was conducted in two thousand four. And it was a referendum that removed a small, very small line from the constitution, but it's probably one of the most important blinds ever. previously, the president was to be elected for a maximum of two terms. So a eight well, I won't say aid but realistically, it's like more years, right? Yeah. It's ten years because you have elections every five years correct. Yeah Yeah Right now, it's at first. It was every four years but I believe it's every five years. Okay. So anyways before that the president could only apply for two. And then he will have to leave but then the referendum was conducted and this line was removed. So a key could be a president for free The president wants like if he's elected again, he can be the president doesn't matter no limits on presidential terms. It sounds like Vladimir Putin took a few notes from him. Yup. I see now. I'm connecting the DOTS now I I'm saying this is a really interesting. Yeah. So. Next up, I want to talk about the how the power is a spread in our country. So it's not a it's not. It's no longer a historical kind of thing, but it's what is currently going on like this is not any kind of confidential information is available on the Internet just like everything that I have talked about previously. So here's how our our power. The power is our country's spread between certain instances. So we have. I want to say full branches because the president is. A kind of a branch, but he's also above all of them. So He's pretty much the highest instance in our country right now and you'RE GONNA see why under him all those three traditional branches of power that are also present in the most countries. There's an executive branch which is presented by the Prime Minister and other ministers we have We have a lot of things like the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Ministry. The Ministry of Health and so on. So these are essentially. Major companies that do take care of something the country at the head of them. Is the prime minister and this is the executive branch. So essentially, they are executing the president's orders. It's like it's real simple. You know Executive branch just takes care of the political. Of, the political cause of the country has decided for itself since the president is the main person who decides political course than there's I. Mean there's there's nothing out of the ordinary. Cute right because. They simply execute what is being told to them. And and here's a reminder as well. So all of the prime minister's and all of the ministers elected by the president, right they can be elected by the president. Well be they actually are legitimately actually off on his From from his own agreement now. then. Moss Subtle One most subtle one the which is the legislative branch. And it has two parts to it, which is a what one is the lower old the House of Representatives and the representatives are chosen locally into it, and then there's a high of which is the Council of the Republic. it consists of sixty four members each. Each major region elects up to eight representatives and the also eight a chosen by the president. Though they in charge of making laws essentially and Indicated they they decide the political course and the executive branch then later enforces those rules. So let me. See You well. Actually. It doesn't seem like too bad over deal right because. It's it's mostly represented by people who elect like all of us from their own region. So they're supposed to be representing the their own. Their own regions and such. It's like they had years of people as opposed to be represented by this branch. But. Let me remind you that. The president in our country also has absolutes legislative power and he's legislative power is higher than that of the entire legislative branch. So if he doesn't agree with any of the things, our legislature proposes than he gem make his own degree and this degree is going to have high our them I mean legislative power them. everything doubts. Religiously branch can do. And finally, the Judicial branch. It's represented by the Constitutional Court and some general courts. the Constitutional Court enforces the Constitution and it has twelve judges on to make a decision in favour against slow at least. Six people needs to vote or certain decision. and. Six of the people out of the twelve judges are pointed directly by the president. So if the president is essentially also in charge of the constitution because he can play skis on people in the In the Constitutional Court and you can't prove that any of the violations of the constitution have occurred because the court. The of the court is on representatives and he's the main person person enforcing the constitution. Then S for general courts. Then there's the highest court which is the biggest and most important incidents out of all of those. And pretty much of its judges are chosen by the president as well. So, you can kind of see this point how much every branch of power is controlled by the president He's in charge of the executive branch directly in charge of them he chooses all of them. of the people that represent this branch of our. He has legislative rights like absolute highest legislative rights in our in our country. And Constant both the Constitutional Court and the High Court also represent his interests as he can choose half of the Constitutional Court and he can choose pretty much any person in the highest court as well. So, and on top of this lots of other things are also controlled by the president. KGB is well, it's not supposed to be directly in charge of the president but In charge of the KGB right now is one of his sons big through Ronca. then. A. Yeah. Yeah. Then, the Bureau of Forensic Investigations on directly to him. So what are we any forensic investigation like the highest instance of forensics is also onces directly under the president. And also the military because he is the head general of the army. Oh, not exactly the president I mean not constitutional not the president himself by the constitution but the person in charge that we have right now executable Sham K. he is the absolute head of the of the army as well. It's actually difficult to. To say what the president in our country can't legally do is pretty say. Even. Though he didn't even even if he is not allowed do it. He could just basically just whisper into whatever directors ear just be like, Hey, just go ahead and do this and then basically. Do it yeah, yeah pretty much. I mean there was an anecdotal situation if you may be moderns. Months ago maybe a year I don't know I. It was long time ago not yeah not too long ago. where he was even wondering that he couldn't do something by the Constitution I keep this at the some random remote place and people were unhappy with the local representatives and the. He he just directly set to them that we need to conduct vocal new local elections like right now in order to to choose the new representatives and the key would make like a law I mean all the low about. Cute. Publisher paper tomorrow under his signature and it turned out that constitutionally he could not start elections into local representatives and he was like wait I can't do that. Thing. Y-. What area was that end? Do you do you have like a a? blaster like you know what area was that in. Oh I. Have. Absolutely. No. Idea on the okay. It was it was some remote voice I don. I remember it's just a fact that I remembered I haven't made any notes on Yeah That's fine. But by but you you're you're pretty positive that did or your your positive that did happen though I'm positive. Public. In the public eye. Slow. So. You can kind of see how the situation is In our country is in terms of policy. Proud. boaty mentioned. Took over every over everything. Yeah. The presumptively a short time. Yup It's it's absolutely insane to be honest. Yeah, and remember the statement made is the hot and cold that I've mentioned previously that he wanted absolute execution of his orders like he didn't really want any discussions to be there if you could obey orders than you would be elected and he could and he could now elect people into every branch of our into every major political position essentially. So you know it's the person who has a WHO essentially make. Give, themselves absolute power in our country. Yeah, Jesus. So, let's fast forward a little bit to. Kinda right before the elections moving onto the election so was there much of the build up when it came to the election I it seemed like the enthusiasm was really high to get him out of office. Am I correct? Yeah I I had a slightly different talk in mind, but I don't know if you're if you're. Go head. Yeah. What what would you want to bring up next? Yeah because I've made a small like the list of Florence. He could keep going then. Yeah. Whatever works for you I. I I'm I'm the one I'm the one learning. So I'll just shut up and you could keep going. Okay just yeah. You can. You can talk you can give me like small breaks for my voice to rest on for me to sip a little bit on the on the left of his of my d as You. I'm wasn't welcomed that but. Yeah definitely. So. just kind of trying to th-. Taking and I've just taking everything you're saying. It's because a not. A not a lot of people. Really know about Belarus a I mean, just I'm kind of talking from where I'm at right now if if I went up to use some random stranger and start talking about Belarus buffet if I if if I even mentioned means, they would have no idea and stuff and so. It's kind of weird that. The public if people who were publishing journals and blogs and things like that it might it's definitely not in the mainstream and I feel like a definitely isn't talked about and I know you're mentioning that there were catastrophes that kind of clouded over the elections and and there's probably a lot of bigger things that clouded over just some of the corruption that was going on over there. So it it it's kind of the they must have a really good team to. Block a lot of this information off or try to cover for his. Somewhat. Taran ICAL power a move that he's doing and stuff. That's That's absolutely true. It might being one of the reasons this campaign sparked so so well, and so quickly is. There was is that there was a lot of censorship back then but now. I mean there there's still a lot of censorship back then, but it's from official government resources and not from. not from independent media has become a lot more and. What are the media has the gum independent from the government and so we're seeing a lot of censorship being lifted. Do you do you feel like if you were, let's just say semi famous and you had like a video podcast. You know this was definitely more well established I believe like it is going to reach out there but probably not to the magnitude of you know if a celebrity from means, for example, was sitting down and talking to me. If this came back to the government feel like there would be People going after this person this hypothetical person. Oh. I don't know honestly this situation. nobody really knows where the situation is GONNA end up but everybody understands that the will is starting to turn. Like isn't going to be the same kind of. Russian anymore at least it doesn't look in the same manner in twenty eighteen a lot of protests in Armenian occurred and those people were able to suppress the government in a relatively peaceful manner leg it will. It's kind of what the situation is looking at a like right now. once. Once. We reached. We reach a critical mass. There's like not earning back. There's way too much exposure to the outside world. And even. Like I'm just GONNA. We're GONNA talk about the riots a little bit later on. I still want to make some make build up as to how things a good before these elections is because once you understand what has been happening before these elections then these elections are going to be so much easier to understand is You've you've developed a really good foundation so far. So yeah just keep going with it. I'm I honestly. I've just I've because I'm just I'm just like Whoa Whoa Whoa, what the heck you're you're turning closer into North Korea at this point. You're like creeping towards that direction. It's it's crazy. So yeah. Yes. So please keep going I I I'm captivated by all this. So the next stop Well, we've already talked about the resident is absolute power. So I think the next major factor About the unhappiness over Bill Roose of Guru and Belarussians, the folk is actually the president himself. You know he was a really good representative of the nation back in Nineteen ninety-four because he seems to be a person who went from some farmers and simple agriculture to actually we. a representative of the people in the higher ups and in the highest lakes the highest position in the government everybody felt really comfortable with him there but. The president's personality has been showing quite to look at for all that time he's drew colors. and. There is a popular term in psychiatry. It's not like an official diagnosis or anything, but it's a popular term cold triad. And it's a combination of. Of Psychiatric Disorders that you often see in a combination. It's a three major disorders, narcissism psychopathy and mckellen is. narcissism is mainly characterized by grandiosity and grandiose ideas. They're all. There are some other criteria, but the presence of grandiosity is re much. Well, it's it's pretty much a the most characteristic trait out of all of them. So it's like dreams of unlimited access power of unlimited success of perfect love and all and also such stuff. So given how already talked about the power you can Kinda Seabra going with this point. We we have a president who is the leader of the country. which is a grandiose idea of its own. He has a the president has an absolute power over everything. So he's like the representative of the people he's supposed to be loved by people chosen by people. He has absolute power to do whatever is necessary and he's like backed up and loved. So. In a way, I previously mentioned eighty percent of the of the votes as an example Sh. And I believe the this is also coming from excessive need for admiration like randy at the and excessive need for marriage. Now, they're garth ristic narcissists back in the day he did legitimate they get eighty percent of the votes and in all of his previous elections I mean. In. All Collections Nineteen ninety-four, which previous by by now, he kept also getting at least seventy five to eighty percent of the votes which will similar number. So, you know how people was advanced psychological disorders, especially, criminals and such like also keep. Trophies. Own killings like many how a like journals with news articles about them and it's also represent they also represented as a people who stick to the familiar like they have. They have literally rituals like the Red Dragon from which is a story from the Hannibal Books and even even Dexter, which is which was a really popular series back in Galveston. Yep Yep they only though both of the killers they are they have they have a ritual literally, they're trying to effect and they only stick to it, and if you like this eighty percent of the votes is kind of kiss ritual as well. It's like something a Miller that he tries to stick to Magee really enjoyed being supported by. Of the country monthly was the people chanting for them stay behind them the people organizing rights behind them. And I just believe that feast falsifying elections with those eighty percent to like relieve those days of glory and trusting. Yeah. The ad he likes that number. Even, even like even right now it's absolutely obvious is a public that there's no way in hell. He could have eighty percent of the votes and the official results game in just yesterday, and it's like eight point one percent of the votes for him which is absolutely it's. Meiping under is no way that this is always it's Elba. Yeah. And it's funny because he actually publicly admitted also that one of the election was also fide bucks bought in He said, the results will low would in fact. The quote goes something like The quote goes something like exists It's like People people pressured me into ducting more European elections. You know like maybe like the USA where trump and Clinton there was a really small difference between between the votes was like, yeah if dish forty, nine ish or something like this yeah is close. It goes really closed and then he. He was like want European elections where there isn't such a vast difference between between all the candidates and he's like you know we made the European elections because I actually had ninety three percent of the votes but we made it ag to look more. European. The Europeans? And the Europeans didn't recognize those elections anyways And again, I'm not spreading false rumors. This cooled is on the Internet a lot of his clothes are on the Internet. I mean I don't need to. Be Just brand any lies on rumors because all of those things you can find them by yourself yeah yeah. So the second traits I want to address is psycho policy, which is mainly characterized by lack fantasy towards others and engagement in criminal behavior. Lack of embassy is a topic that. We're probably going to be talking about. A little bit more well. Yeah as the protas especially, we going to become more clear as we as we talk more about it. So I'm not gonNA stop on it, but there's also engagement in risky behavior and the I can also impulsivity and Boleslav behavior doing something without thinking about it. and this is essentially represented by his joining some bikers revolutions. He was the leader of the opposition back back in the day he was fighting or his plays under the sun a he was incredibly impulsive. He was trying to be the political leader organized movements organized the opposition he brings. You also mentioned that he also got beaten up in his own riots. He knows exactly what the people have to suffer through right now because he has gone through himself, he has done those movements. the reigning government as well So and make Avella's beside trade is Well. It's essentially methodical manipulation lake. It comes from also also comes from lack of empathy and those people they are not interested in. Would we anything bots being able in control and being able to manipulate wherever they want? so This can be very easily seen in the cold by the Haidinger that if you obey orders, you're going to be put in charge like he doesn't want a questions for him. He just wants to be in control he wants. To be manipulative. And And it's also he's constitutional changes like being able to get anyone in charge of widow anything balloon the country He. has graded a ride soil for flicking self to manipulate pretty much anybody laps you wants. A. I I'm still captivated by the captivated by the Oh sorry. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. So I just captivated by the eighty percent that kind of blows my mind a little bit his that's his marquee probably has a tattoo of it on him. I don't. I don't believe he has to, but you know, yeah, basically that's the number. and. Then the visible one is or head maybe yeah Oh. Yeah. You know but keep going. Sorry. So, anyways There's a lot of opinions regarding his fabricated personality. Actually I mean people he may be impulsive. He is quite the also, but he's also really cunning. He is an an incredibly good. manipulator in terms of the things that he says and a how he says them since so many people actually believe that he's fabricating his personality to a to a certain extent back in Nineteen ninety-four it made a lot of sense because you wanted to see my leg, the common folk he's way of becoming a prominent political leader was to I mean. Not. Not. A political leader but the president in fact. He's a way of doing that was to seem as close to the people as as necessary. and it comes from while the fabric of the personality comes in a few different ways in my opinion. First, and foremost being being the idea all the representative of the people is that he sticking quite a waltz to this idea to a point where in my opinion well, at least that's my opinion. That's not something I. Personally have evidence salt. This is not something that has surfaced about him, but I also believe that he's entire way of talking maybe fabricated. He has A. if you if you listen to him, he has this sort of. Specific very distinct and specifically speaking if you speak Russia than it is incredibly clear to you. What is wrong? In our country, there are two main languages, which is bill. Roussin and Russia. And as it often happens when there are more than one language and there's more than one language people. Start using. One and the other they essentially amalgamates right they amalgamates to some degree. And a Russian that is similar to like. It makes Bill Russsian and Russia is known largely as astound company. So he has this. He doesn't exactly speak trust down Keke speaks mostly Russian but he has this specific accent and way of speaking about it, which is His Way of speaking is a lot like Belarus agricultural, common salt type. So alleged in English like US terms, it will be like speaking hillbilly you know. They have this sudden of talk and Mike Oh you ain't got no thing Joe. I see. And Anyway, he's trying to he basically manipulated his. His voice or the language and how to speak to basically appealed to all. In my opinion. Yes definitely the he definitely definitely some. Some fabrication of his public personality that's for sure and knowing. The things that I previously mentioned will simple seventy, his grandiosity, his decided to manipulate people It's definitely there's definitely a lot of abrasion going on when he's in the public eye because he doesn't presents. Doesn't present himself this this way to the public but. A lot of his personality has been slipping essentially. Okay. He has more because he has more control now. So he he doesn't care as much. Yeah he doesn't care as much. Neo is much. I've been. Yeah and also the impulsivity it's GonNa. Prevents him from being smart about covering his personality all the time you know. So what else think something about Russia. Yeah. Troops so Russia actually receives him a as as a clough. Political leader like not just Russia but will anybody who contacts Bill Larousse. more or less Rican fashioned who he has them who understands Russian. They perceive him as sort of clowney because he says, a lot of incoherence things there are. Outrageous amounts of stupid as stupid quotes on the Internet about him like I am an Orthodox atheist or it's better to be a dictator than to be gay and so on. The, these are some of the favorite ones like. I'm I'm not exaggerating the legitimate close. There are one of them their award of made up facts on his behalf like he's supposed to be a historian by his education and It's. and he's been throwing out some historical facts are one hundred, one, hundred percent inaccurate as well. You see the more the more you're talking to borys sounding like leader of North Korea, Kim Jong Un like did eighteen holes of golf in seventeen shots like. It's just ridiculous things like, yeah. That statement sounds like those old chuck Norris meetings yeah exactly. Yeah You notice when You know you have full government control. You start. Putting out that propaganda for these kinda dumb baseless facts of of things that are clearly not true and and you just I don't know if you're trying to make the people just love you more. So you have more morale in the country. You know I it's it's a really strange thing. I think they're just bored, and so they WANNA, make up just funny facts to be loved more. I- dome. About this isn't the what of I mean, could you is owned out for a second because I was trying to drink some tea but. This point again because I didn't truly understand it like you mean that the protesters aboard or no no no. No. I'm saying that a leader you know making up these facts a just I. Think you know he has all this power now and I think he just wants to keep feeling loved. So he'll Kinda spew out just some baseless facts you know are just just random ranby us to beloved were I'd noticed that when the government or when the leader gets more powerful the whackier they kind of become even even the leader of the Philippines North Korea and some of these other leaders that are. That have a lot of power in the government the the start kind of going crazy and saying a lot of weird crazy things. I am not sure about this. I believe in terms of our president in terms of Russia. I think it's is impulsivity more than anything I I believe I believe it's more impulsive ity and that he may legitimately believe everything. He says all not recognize some of the things that he says don't well. On the other side. I. Also think that some of the Wacky nece associated with him is deliberate because to an outside observer, he may seem like little bit of a Clowney Belarussian. Agricultural. Focus Rude. person. But realistically when people debating him when they start to engage in arguments was Kim he's really good at a suppressing his opponents opinions skis very ruthless. He becomes very manipulative with facts was born with the points that he makes is our people legitimately surprised that he can the. Can manipulate the debates the key can. Conduct himself so well you. When IT COMES TO A. Proven just boyens. It's yes. So that kind of sounds more like A. War You. Know you you. You look you look weak when you're strong. Yeah, it's true. Yeah. I I yeah. That that's what it sounds like more. Yeah. So yeah, he's perceived this clowney by Russians, but he's actually a pretty ruthless blake, a leader when the. at least he used to be perceived this way when it comes to debating. But right now, a lot of the people are growing increasingly disconnected from him because he's amp law, it's used to be good back in the nineties because. He seemed like an agricultural full be he's like an agricultural leader and every cultural leaders were respected bags on they were one of the few people who had higher education bag than and of. He and a lot of the country was need our agriculture. Also, he seemed like a representative from people but right now. He just seems like. has grown increasingly disconnected. His audience is what I'm trying to say that people no longer perceive him as a ruthless and trustworthy they perceive him as rude arrogant and manipulative. So the general perception has changed because a lot of people have started getting higher education, they have started seeing a lot of things and right now especially, people have started seeing a water of the bath things is doing and the he has on years boy. Yeah and we also have more excuse me we have more access to the computer with our phones and desert laptops and stuff. So we can actually. Dive into the actual history of see old clips video. So the information is. Just going crazy Dow and I believe even some of these political leaders sing like shut like I can't. It's it's almost impossible to suppress now, which I believe is a good thing. Is. One of the things that also appeal to he's aggregated personality in my opinion is oh, the media coverage of it it goes there. Ever since he became the president, there's also been heavy censorship old. Of the news, essentially, every news channel that is enjoyed it in our country undergoes government regulation there it's a school they make sure that nothing that contradicts puts the president in the past light. is going on live so all the newspapers saw. In them is government controlled all the T. V.'s government controlled and Even when certain protests occurred there wasn't as much information about them to go around all the bath things were happening none of those. None of those things really sold a massive lights day of them went. And I think that one of the reasons that such A. Strategic such violent regimes or such I mean inhumane regimes as North Korea and China one of the reasons I think they still kind of Frostburg they I mean China is kind of on the brink of making some changes in Hong Kong but. the but. Even, there meet even their riots where as successful even though they were by far the most advanced in my opinion in the world. So the reason the reason for that is because those countries sense literally everything like in our country the Internet was allowed to prosper just like that and everybody started using it. But in other countries in North Korea others and in China, there's very heavy censorship of the Internet. People people are more disconnected from the outside world and also mulcahy's connected from what is actually happening inside of the country. Yeah. I actually had a conversation on my last episode about and. The unfortunate thing is I was able to talk hurt my guests wasn't able to speak too much on it because of fears of getting fired and. and. Deported back to the USA. So. It's Yeah it's. It's so weird. It's so interesting I it just. Yeah I. I see some reason some reasoning behind it but I, think for the greater good. The more information, the better I think we just of need to bring more light to everything to every country. Yeah. It's true and I in a in a lot of people An and people I, feel like most people in the US know this stuff but I mean you can. You could say anything almost anything obviously besides saying you know you're gonNA kill kill someone or the the president of some. Just anybody but I make pretty much say and do almost anything you want in our country and have no repercussions. Of course people are GonNa comment and say, Oh, you're an idiot and things like that and thereby be like you could put yourself in a little danger if you get on the fringes and stuff but. It I've never been to Yeah I think when I went to Hong. Kong. for the first time in twenty fifteen twenty, seventeen Yeah. I was trying to go on basic sites and they weren't allowed and and I was just like you know what the Hell is going on and I start learning really quickly. Yeah. You need to eat the ends some there. Yeah exactly. Yeah. Everybody's like Oh. You don't have VPN I'm like, why do I? What is that? What do I need that and they're like, Oh yes not allowed in this country and stuff so it After college you know traveling and stuff I to start learning about the world really quickly and I was like Jesus like. I thought I. had my issues here man if if there is anything like that in the US we would be everybody would be freaking out and going crazy going psycho. And and You know if president trump days like I'm going to get elected for You know there's no more terms I'm just GONNA keep getting elected people would freak the fuck out. But. You know I mean and rightfully so and Yeah I. Think it is kind of weird. How some people are just compliance with like a country is complete I. Don't know if it's by force if it's the suppression of information it, the indoctrination of them growing up, you know there's a lot of factors come into play too. It's. It's all of those things that's yeah and and and I'm assuming that you're starting to note. Kind of noticed creeping up in your country especially now every yet it's true. Yeah. Oh It'd be before before before I ask and when we go basically into the election and riots put in post-election. De. You notice is GonNa. Be Kind of a few questions and stuff we don't have to go to into it. D- Is there a big. Basically. Are there are a lot of people that are really happy with how the government is right now? Is there also an opposing force to your the protests as well? Are there a lot of Pro Belarusian Citizens that are for what's going on right now. I well. There are supporters of the controversy. And it's definitely true. There is a meme going on around the country that. Supported boys three percent of the. People. but realistically I think it's a high number of people. I would say realistically about twenty twenty percent of the people would actually support him. And as far as the riots go oh yeah. One one of the things I also wanted to mention. About the media as well coming back to that argument is at a lot of those protests off show as bro Larussa on. on the TV like Pro Lucretia. Princeton's. They're showing a on TV showing Assam footage all. Right Elise being being beaten up or A. they're saying that like fifty, a of the of the people of the riot police received were injured in the process of of those riots and then they would show people. Standing on the streets and showing flowers always like no context those people are standing on the street as the protest, all of the country. GM. But they're showing it as like the footage of of people memorizing riots, police who are suffering right now. So. There's a lot of money relation I'll disinformation going on and the people who don't use independent sources. They are the most likely to be indoctrinated into believing the car the country seem. I go going to the indoctrination, which is kind of the second part of my question. besides media which obviously made obvious. Is there an early indoctrination with kids and education and universities Yes. It's true. This is the point that I was about to jump to as well. Thanks for. A I mean you you put me on the right track because I was losing my thoughts. Really good anyways, there is a lot of ideological work in fact, like every major company has an ideological leader and We study ideology of the Bellarusse and government we studied structure in school in university is again. It's not presented as like the ideal and perfect, but it's just presented the way that it is like here's how the government's organized. The president is in charge is political leaders. Of the representative of the Constitution on the freedom of the people etcetera etcetera etcetera. So we're not like being directly indoctrinated into. Being presented. It'd being presented with everything. That's. Renaldo like presidential website on style. On it it's on the presidential website freedom. In terms the the president protects the country and such. So we have been. told. It in the same exact manner. But as far as indoctrination goes there are a lot more. Things you need to take care of like indoctrination implies that you need to suppress any other negative thoughts other than the information that you're feeding. And there's no real suppression of it. So You know when it comes to well. Is An incredibly popular topic when it comes to indoctrination. And if you look at it, it's the it's really manipulative. In fact, because small children they had sold a job is they god loves you but on the other hand if you don't. If, you don't support him if you don't pray to him if you don't read the Bible or go to church, then you're going to hell and there's an ultimatum at the end of it saying that. If you don't do this is going to be bad and things. Up honest as well like there's even all crime in a lot of religions. If you if you just think of doing something bad and it's it's the same as doing that exact thing. And it's. And in our country, it's nowhere near that like not been indoctrinated to a full extent like. If, you just live by yourself, but don't support the government then you're free to leave by itself. So long as the government trains. But. If you're actually organizing protests and such than you're going to get detained jailed beaten spread false rumors than you're likely to get things done. Like our thaw, our independence of thought is not been suppressed but our. Our actions are being severely punished or and you can see that in the riots like the movements for the women's for the opposition have existed for a very long time but they have taken very small action up until now they were when they were taking action. They were Tanaka they were jailed they were repressed and so on and so forth. But those movements have always existed. Away Interesting. So Well, the loss thing that I want to address regarding the personality and we're GONNA finish this block of information and start getting closer to what the problem was elections have always been. Is Actually where oldest problems come from. We can't really know for sure when things went dog or person I mean he's caused is in the public eye and a lot of it just being covered obviously. but he had no real following growing up. So you know no father figure in the family and nobody even really knew his author it's just said that he bailed twin. was born. One of those problems comes from the family. It's like even the Mazda has herself. She didn't really know the father while she didn't know who was. Is a warning sign. Say The least. so He's father was never legitimately known and I don't believe that this is a healthy environment for anybody to grow up in. A all of those psychiatric issues come from a person's childhood and And it's Developmental Molin anything in my opinion. also the diagnosis was like isn't taken out of nowhere you was actually. Diagnosed. As moderates moderate. Psycho. Pissy once. And it's also one of the reasons that he was that he he was. Excluded from the army like he worked in military for a while but he won when used got out that he had a psychiatric diagnosis. he was swiftly discarded from there. Let me get like there are some rumors about how he actually got this diagnosis, but it's been confirmed that he did do. Though the story goes in a few different ways. Away. He wanted to be the head over agriculture company. It was a very prestigious was very stages draw back then so he impulsively went in and demanded to be. An to be a leader of the agricultural company. and the story Divis in one way or the other one story. that. He was just super forceful about it and he was detained and then take into a psychiatric hospital. All, the other ones says that Essentially didn't have. Back then so he went and got a paper from somewhere that he did receive higher education people started doubting that. So so they want to check him out down he was arrested in potato psychiatric. Clinic. But. Either way he was for a period of time he was admitted to a psychiatric clinic in love. which is is country of origin. Country but he's city is sitting in Warwick like. or he was raised and born. Yep Yeah So he was he was admitted to that link and cute there was the diagnosis itself is longer and more complicated and. Psychiatry has changed the world. So nobody. Really. I mean only psychiatrists realistically know what their diagnosis mean in that. In broad terms but at the start of it at the start of the diagnosis was more, it's like oh? Kasey. Oh, it's not and there was some other. You know there was some other mentioned about if you ought things. So I'm so it's not just my opinion. Regarding his personality, but it's actually a confirmed saying that was. That exists to to a certain point people. people from the clinic say that he was indeed admitted there and people in some of the people who work there. They still remember those days is held information actually got out. the doctor who diagnosed him he fled the country in feel pursuits. But the records have been actually destroyed. When, he became the president and servers. Now the records destroyed in ninety, nine and four. At least well, let's the official term because no mentions of him ever being there currently exists outside of people who talk about it. Of course. The kind of what seems to happen when. especially I mean. In in a sense there, there is a degree of privacy but. It seems like. You gain power and you WANNA hide a lot of embarrassing things and stop you will go to that extent of destroying it and Maybe even threatening the lives of. The people who have diagnosed you and. Basically. Have disturbed political or. On you could be used against you. Now. Let's it's. It's being. It's well being. It's a calm on the. Many. Political leaders to destroy evidence I mean in situ in in the US it's kind of a similar situation was Clinton's you know there are sides and stops where people just mysteriously disappeared. All committed suicide to bullet wants to layer the head. To the back of their head mind. Yeah Yeah. The I it's it's a pretty. It's a common joke around you're getting suicide by the Clintons. This is a realistic situation. Every country? So just just kind of basically talk about looks like you know we have basically an hour block left so I you have so much you have so much to say and I know, and you know we're probably going to have to do a second episode even though we still have an hour and stuff, but we'll probably keep the Kobe stuff to to another day. and Oh okay yeah. And we could just basically just continue on. With the election and I mean I suppose election. Everything most of the things from this point on are actually gonNA be straightforward. So I don't know about a second episode. So maybe if we have time, it's yeah, it's convenient for you. Then we could for like a little bit more than that Whoa yeah we we we have. Yeah. We have pretty much like an hour hour fifteen. So yeah, let's just dive into it. So I gaze sure what What happened with Let's let's build. what? Yeah. One Lake I have one more of Mama Point in terms of building up to the elections okay. So the people are unhappy with how the power is spread. You know that he is we've already talked about the first point, which is people aren't happy with our spread that the president has absolute power than the people are also white becoming increasingly unhappy with the president himself like his personality, the way he behaves in such. So So let's mentioned one final point about the people's unhappiness That's the the political situation in our country again, why we have been pretty pretty poor compared to other countries. So the main political Political follow country by the president has. Always been to sort of change nothing well, change as little as possible. It's he I mean the president often says, this word says bachelor now for his policy. And nobody really knows what what's the full meaning of this word is it was que-. It's like. My understanding of it is that of it means pretty much sitting plays do your own thing and. On with little changes. Obey it sounds like that's why I felt like translation is. Yeah, even even even bay a little true. But so I, mean we. As a country we have been. Less progressive than than everybody else like you know the president himself he doesn't like a college lgbt and stuff. He doesn't He doesn't like he doesn't like really any changes how our people ought to ours is the situation in the country is and we actually one of the few countries who still has death sentence I am in that constitution like alone. We can legally execute the the death sentence and it's actually being enforced little bit still. So The situation that we changed very little batteries total control by the president. Over the main people in charge of everything, they're also in charge of A. They execute his commands they do whatever wants. then. The policy has been to completely destroy and surprise the opposition it. We've already talked about the hiding and Roth who mysteriously disappeared. When they became the leaders of the opposition for Awhile. And the opposition has been severely suppressed ever since. So we are also not a very easy. we're not a very rich country we've done rich in the agriculture and it's not very profitable field. And it's becoming. Even, less profitable for a lot of countries is Alamein Solis expert is actually Russia the Soviet represent goods, Omeday Russia you. This is its own goods and it doesn't really need hours even though our goods are actually. Really Really Nice like The milk eggs, the all. Of. The comes from agriculture and like chocolate them all those things they're actually really really good. Now country I it'd be surprised but. But it's true. and. The the idea of the president ever since he has been elected was to a calm contact with Russia was to receive help from Russia until the crisis could be averted and. ever since he has always been a balancing out between Russia and Europe. Russia has been the main helper. Still they've been given credits they've been given oil. They've been giving gas on everything everything everything, and the EU is our legs loss of independence from Russia in a way. Because you also sanctions Russia with political changes they make. The If, we support the EU in terms of sanctions like we can be. I mean the president, not exactly we Address country. but it's rose the president. He can say that the he can say that he supports the EU in certain things to make sure that he is deliberately also moving away from Russia and the idea is to balance keep the balance in between like play both sides in a way. because this way it's key can cover up some of the bad things that he's doing, and it's also another another major issue, which is possible. Integration was Russia. Rumor has it that one of his One of the reasons Russia was so willing to give so much the country is because Ella promises of eventual integration. they were promises of having the same currency of having the same constitution of of having same trade voter ever like no borders with them and lot of those actually came to fruition. Have Open borders was Russia or you need to do to travel from Belarus. Russia is actually just show your face basketball out and that's it. Either the documents and stuff you can freely move here and there. then. We have the same trading space with Russia Kazakhstan. Which means that our products are sold to each other at a huge discount? and. Eventually, though was supposed to be higher measures for integration like Russia has been pressuring Belarus to do a lot more things because look was pretty cutting about it he kept getting support from Russia but he. Kept, postponing all the of the integration process. In the end Russia's started making demands to and putting exempting it's pressure like we are going to stop selling new gas unless you do something where you're GonNa stop doing this this this unless you do something. And a lot of properties have in fact been salt Russia like the the the largest gas by lots going through our country and into Europe's has been solved. Russia the essentially entire gas industry industry has been to Russia. Russia is also building a polyp blonde oric and a nuclear. Power plants, a nuclear launch even it's supposed. it was supposed to start its work with like right now with August but it's getting glades. Even. More. So even more only will get the way due to the political situation yeah. and. This integration housing both owning. So Russia has been exerting a lot of water pressure. They've been buying properties and so on and so forth. So I believe He also will not. It's not I believe but I think it's It's been a brilliant move on his odds to also closed not acknowledge the Crimea incident was Russia and Ukraine. when like an knowledge it at like four or against A. Acknowledged for it so he was against them. You was against it. So you started sanctioning Russia or all of that entire situation ams e also cited cited was the you of this one? So it's like He is perceived in a better lights. And also if Russia John forcefully take apart of Ukraine themselves and the same exact thing can happen to go reuss. Do. You Russia's trying to get their hands on Belarus. I am not sure Let me put it like this Russia has been known for conducting major information wars Muslim anything. A. Lot of. There's been a bottle of video that's been recommended by a lot lately about a former Russian KGB leader who talks about subversion tactics like hell to. Manipulate and disintegrate the society. How To essentially. Suppress any kind of regime and halted culturally destroy a country. Though. Russia is very cunning like it's not going to do go into direct conflict it's lot smarter about its means of animation. And in my opinion, there's been a lot of. Manipulation in this campaign. Like most of the news must've the news that are published. They come from sources outside of the country like the major, the biggest. Source of information about Belarus right now is a telegram next. And gloomy the leaders of the organizers Ovid oscillated in Oland. But. I don't believe that they're affiliated somehow was Russia Poland but Abuts They are definitely of filtering information through like in a in a way that is convenient for them. That is going to be the protesters. Interesting. Than not all of the information is be late like most of the things that are go let are posted there. They believe to be true like at least agents ninety percent of them. because it's still a platform that is organized by the people. So most of the news are. Taken from us. They are submitted by people all the pictures taken by the people from those riots they had taken from Independent. Press And They just go to the information, which is a pretty much convenient and actually anybody can influence that information but. not the government. They are not going to post any pro-lukashenko style know obviously. Even on their, there are very few videos of people shitting rights police in we know that there are also. They're also dump people who are hitting the The right Lisa's will not an aggression from just want side but this on the other as well. But this, there's very little footage of. Of that actually happening and it's also showing in a positive light. Like violence. Violence, but in a positive manner, which is still not good. Not a good way of showing violence. So As far as other countries go, there's also China which we have become increasingly. Increasingly, friendly whiz over the last decade. China has also been allowed to construct its small chinatowns outside of the city and even in the cities. And they've been actually financing the building of large stadium in men's to. So relations with China a growing an China is allowed. To do a lot of things in our country right now. In my which is in my opinion, also a brilliant political move and here's why Of the few people who actually. Are Elections or this year. They'll wear I, believe stand of Putin. WHO's the President Russia and actually? Siege Ing Bing I'm I'm not sure how you pronounce correct Yes using Yeah Xi Jinping. Yeah. He also acknowledged the elections Belarus. Them congratulated Look Assumpcao. And when it came to Russia, he also warned Russia not to take any any intervention. Because he's very interested in what billers is offering enright now. Essentially. It's a bruin liquor move because. Russian intervention becomes a lot more dangerous for them because now, there is pressure on Russia from China, which is one of the biggest in the world as well and. And so this idea of trying to balance out between everybody has. A. has worked really really well so far at least it has. A avoided being integrated with Russia least up until this point. Now. In my fan, the EU has made some sanctions premysl Yoga. Elections. Of but they were most of them have also been taken down right now the wheel is turning and. And Europe. Both said the they go in to sanction pretty severely. So in my opinion. Of, this kind of withdraws support score our country from the West Week. Almost to its full extent. We have always been politically dependent on. Russia I mean not. Economically dependent on Russia. And the right now we are we have very very weak economy and we are going to be even more even more dependent on those rush and China. Or will they are obviously interested in In Hookah Sean could be in the president because they are given. They given free bosses to do whatever they want, and the West is out of the picture pretty much Belarus at this point. What do you think? That's what do you think what country scares you the most when it comes to the intervention because they see it obviously as an opportunity to invest in kind of game troll who what country do you believe is like your. Biggest threat when it comes to the intervention. Probably Rush. They are not I mean China has. No Real Opportunity. To attack us is just way too inconvenient for them and they also on relatively despite their regime despite the regime they also on really good terms as. The outside world like there are very few. There are very few limitations, them and economical ones. I mean, all the world works for China's essentially at this point even the leg, the media industry, Alexa? China. Even the movies are made to appease China, you know In the Star Wars sequels it. Even. Some rumors about the new style was trilogy where others like a Black Eric Old Finn, yeah yeah and he he's not in it. Yeah and he was downplayed because Russia wasn't happy was black representatives that movies taking major roles. Yeah. You can even see the ghost is where his image is much smaller and out of the end the closer to the edge of the pictures all yes. Yeah. Chinese posters. Everybody everybody works for China in a way but about if China starts an intervention than they are going to be put in the real bad light of the day attempts Russia on the other hand I mean they're already sanctioned by the by the you they are on. Relatively okay. Terms with the US I would say. Right now especially, since trump is quite okay was Putin. So if Biden is to be elected this year them who knows how that is going to go but right now they're on the okay terms. and Would you would you rather have? Would you rather have a president that's friendlier with? Russia or that's more opposed to Russia. I guess what I'm asking is, would you prefer someone more like trump or someone more like biden? Oh I'm not savvy in terms of the presidential campaign this year as far as I'm concerned you up picking the least horrible of two options. Yeah. Yeah. but I would say that we. Well. I'm going to touch on the economical situation like right next but in my opinion, we right now we are dependent heavily on other countries for support in doesn't matter it doesn't matter who is a willing to provide that support in in my opinion. So if if China's went to support US frustrated went to support us if the US willing to support us. Then by all means, we should be developing communications was all of them. So I would welcome a more Western regime however, well, we return to residents to the president's The president's our being severely limited. I see. Yeah. I guess that would be a better question if if you. If you wanted more eastern or Western influence. I think that was probably been a better question. So that was more of the answer I. Guess I was. So I WOULD I was supposed. To be fair like Mo both would be perfect. But I would say if we're moving anyway of them, we should move somewhere close to what the US Gotcha. Russia is learning from us. So you know. It's moving closer to. Moving constitutionally closer to us than to anything else and this is something we're striving to get away from. Gotcha. Well Anyway. So what what I WANNA talk about? The economy of our country. So you I've already mentioned how in Nineteen, ninety, four, our economy sub greatly ended up. We basically had no real good relations after becoming independent out of from anyone we can support ourselves very well. And I believe that the situation hasn't really changed a lot. Because if we are striving towards independence right now. We're pretty much heading for the same situation that was back in nineteen ninety four. We Roy need to rely heavily on other orders for at least now until we build our own strong economy goes amb IBM none of those measures taken by the president in. In that time, they haven't really addressed the economical issues they've been simply boring from other countries but never really. Making our own strong economy, and it's been supported by award of independence research on the Internet. Essentially, all of the businesses at will of companies for all kinds of work in our country, they are controlled by the government. and. The most of the small businesses that are willing to thought and thus dot in our country they are also regulated by the government severely regulated. Taxes you have to adjust to a water conditions about starting your own small business and here. Even. Even even any kind of foreign support is still taxed like I talked to one girl. Who worked as an interpreter for some? Qassam company. Making, translations of Volunteers volunteer organizations. And a lot of volunteer organizations are not really willing to support Bill Russo in terms of. In terms of I mean. In terms of conducting their their stuff in here they. And the reason for that is because the needs to take care of literally everything of the entire organization process they need to buy venues, they need to transport people they need to pay for combinations and stuff and you even if they're willing to invest money into something like Branson's jet educating people about some kind of. Coming here, educating them about a problem than they have to do it completely on their own, and they also have to pay taxes or the amount of money that they are willing to invest. So for instance, if they are willing to invest one million dollars into conducting. Some kind of charity organization in here. Then the also have to pay taxes on that one million dollars as well, which is, which is absolutely unheard of a they're trying to help the country somehow and they are still being taxed for. Using their own money to do anything in this country how how much tax do you guys pay you if you could guess? officially fishery it's like. The income tax is about twelve maybe fourteen issues percents right now, I a the number slipped my mind. It was always like twelve percent in my mind is. but it's may be higher right now I'm not one hundred percent. Sure. Yes. I just want to kind of a rough estimate. But right. But a lot of people believe that our. Tax To say the least is being collected even before we receive our paychecks. You know like we should be receiving twice as much but then we also. But we're much less and also pay tax on top of that from the income. So. It looks like I just looked it up here. Really quick. It looks like you have a twelve percent flat rate. Yeah. That's the official percents lead on the income. Yeah Yeah. Okay. So I'm I'm not wrong. Okay? Sorry I just of got caught off we're. We were at the economic situation. So low our the main supports our full. Our country has in fact been Russia they've been giving us very large credits. They've been giving us again free oil almost. Relatively FEW ROADS GAS and. There's been a major outrage amongst rush on bulletins when. When the prices of oil discussed goes, oil has always been sold to our country at a very, very low rate. and. Our country has been re-selling that oil to the Europe at a much higher rate. So we were acting like essentially an offshore that made a lot of money for herself. And Russia was like outraged about it they stopped importing oil at a certain points. Oh, I mean I would. Agree it'd be like. Yeah that's a food bullshit ill. And what was about to say, yes, and Russia also gave us credits to pay for gas to pay oil and such and such, and the way of Shankar was to. Take another new credit to pay the interest on the on the previous credits like Russia. Kept investing more and more money into US and kept getting broken promises of the things that would change. And And in fact, our people have also been getting broken promises. So this economic situation is it means The people are not very, very rich because we're mostly depend on Russia and they have very widow of our own economies Russ, some industries that are profitable not by but not by a whole law and the gross is very, very slow from. The, people have also been promised a lot of things during the presidential campaign such as high wages doctors ditches need to receive more. It's oldest standard stuff that is being said by pretty much every candidate in every country with. Those promises have been broken like. They always broke. It like this, we are working in the medical field I work in the medical field and We've been promised a twenty percent increase in wages starting from twenty twenty. We haven't seen any of in fact at the start of two, thousand, eight, hundred, twenty. There legitimate concerns that our wages would actually get lower because there was a new system. A new system was introduced of guaranteeing our wages. So everybody was concerned that our wages would actually be lower they were supposed to be lower actually according to the. Situated according to the new wage calculations. Enters aunts. And it's August. It's been nine months and we haven't seen an increase in sales so far. None of that like twenty percent promised none of it has come so far. Now, now kind of jumping jumping in how has your wages been affected with the UM covid has there been much wages affected I know you guys are open and stuff, but generally speaking for the country has has there been any stimulus. Any are hazardous been cuts on wages. There have been some Stimuli Ohio. For the for the. Companies that suffered from Corona. As far as the medical field goals I mean the corona situation is they could be talking for a long time about it because. To, briefly, summit up a there, wear some payments went to some doctors, but there was also a lot of outrage because people some people received. Very, very minor compensations or work in this current patients. others have received. Now a lot actually just a question when when it comes to the payments now since your country is open, is it like a hazard payment since you're dealing with the coronavirus going to give you a little extra because of on? No no no, it's. It's not a it's not a hot under has its compensation. It's compensation because they. they work was very limited. Also, most of our country's economics come from expert and it's expert from Russia. To do Russia from Russia so Russia and everybody else closed their borders, and since we I mean we had bought opened right but nobody else had their borders opened outside. Outside of us. So. It doesn't matter if we have a voters open the economy's stops because because we still can't expert because everybody else's closed off. And probably not a lot of people are visiting because of fear of Corona virus as well. Yeah. So League still suffered swipe bits. And one final thing is a lot of independent investigations have started pointing out that. the economics of the country are going to offshore severely like they're gonna the the money from the government is the is taken straight into offshore and into the pockets of the major political figures gained. These are these are just rumors, but here's how the approximate system works. Most of the most of the companies are government based and even small companies. They also require government regulations as small businesses and literally everything. major some of the some of the biggest and most major prominent companies have been working at a loss. In fact, they've been receiving of funds for as support from the government for for years now. One of the a lot of the companies would actually go bankrupt if. Without government crediting them. And I believe the number is the number for twenty twenty is as high as twenty five percent of the companies working at the loss. Oh well like. The prophets from the others are not actually that big the not as important. I. Think the biggest the biggest profit for us is actually the federal deal prime now, which is growing in its which is growing in popularity and highest wages are also there goes. It's most the. Most support coming from outside of the government and outside of the country as well. So people know how to run those companies low in the way we're also seeing an offshore for the IT FIA so. Kind of kind of works favorably for us. But anyways. So government companies they sell. Their products, not to the not directly to the e U, not, directly to Russia, but a lot of the products go to some of shores. And those all shores sell. Their products at a much higher rage to everybody else. So the people in charge of those shoes are the ones receiving all the prophets and it's and it kind of results in this curious situation that the only people. Benefit other people from the of shores and they are also very notable people in. Politics so. Many people believe that the money is actually being drained out of the country. Jesus. Yes that's hardest. Do believe just not even the government but just your the country even when it comes to business and just the citizens as well that it's pretty corrupt in the society as well. I I. Don't believe that people who are who are not I. I believe the higher ups are. The ones that are really corrupt. I don't believe that common folks to obey those orders from the higher ups I don't believe that the common foci as. As the ones on top. And one brief mentioned the broad the current situation that I wanNA say is regime control I'm just going to state. One simple known fact is that we have the highest. Amount of law enforcement and military per capita in the entire world. Oh interesting. There's there's more. There's a law of police and it's like at least maybe three to four times than the average. person a lot of them are. One of the people are involved in the army in the military and so on. Do you think that's a good thing or you're probably not thinking is necessarily a good thing right now with the riots and everything else because the that forces kind of being used against you guys. Yeah it's there to enforce the regime. Do you. Do you feel like the life with a heavy police force? Basically deters crime. Like regular everyday crime. actually kind of do because we have really low crime rates actually and it has to do what was that people being really peaceful. And a lot of it was. The work of the police. The police are actually doing their job really really well. At least in my opinion, I've also worked with a lot of patients who was like knife wounds was. Or bondage the wall. Oh, mainly mainly knife wounds because that was. the main theme of the hospital where I work part time at. And And those investigations were conducted really swiftly really well, and the people responsible for the were always found very very quickly own the went always found they were found most of the time ends very quickly Yo it's it's a it's a pretty good work in system in my opinion and. So. Now Let's briefly talk about how the previous elections have gone like the ones before that. So in order for a president to be elected in our country, all of the candidates into candidates needs to collect signatures from from people and the barrier is having at least one hundred gays signatures. If you have one hundred gave signatures that people would like you to be a candidate for president than you can register as a candidate. Then, the candidates are allowed to conduct sudden meetings and present they a presidential programs. Once the election occurs if a candidate receives Muslim fifty percent of votes than they become president of the country. If all the candidates. receive less than fifty percent of the votes and an additional round of elections is conducted the between the most building the most popular candidates. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It's called a runoff election or something like that. Yeah. Oh that's cool. I. Wasn't familiar with its We have have it more and localize elections say but other because we up Democrat Republican, those are the major two parties. So if a bunch of Republicans and Democrats are going. If they don't get. Fifty. percent of the vote and stuff like that. Then it goes to the run off of the most popular too. So basically what you explained. Good. Now ever since the twenty down the elections though scenario has actually been very similar. Twenty two and Twenty fifteen and even out twenty twenty. Those narrow has been whites quite similar and I'm talking about those elections because these ones have started appearing on the bubbling. Because a lot of outrage as to be filmed has started to be registered on the Internet and people have. Started documents documenting the opposition and the and what the government does. So the elections have been quite similar, first and foremost I candidates supposed to collect signatures. And they do so by conducting meetings in the city somewhere so they they form a group and representatives of the group ask people to to put their signatures or for sudden candidate. Starting from one, thousand, ten day were absolutely no meetings inducted for Shanka like. Nobody. Nobody really knew how he kept getting he's signatures. Of because in twenty ten, the he had one million signatures somehow without organizing single protests. and. Approaches but not a meeting meeting meeting. and in this year, he collected two million signatures without conducting is single meeting and people have been watering all the fuck did happen like. So it's presumed I'm GonNa. Say presumed because the government officially denies any of its Beaumont. Is that many of the people involved in his groups aw leaders at at certain companies so they receive benefits from joining the groups and they. FORCE THEIR WORK Goes to collect signatures allegedly. Signatures for the president. If, they don't do. So then they go into receive they they are working their work is going to suffer. They are not gonNA get their new contracts they are going to get like over wages on stops, they're just being threatened to their signatures. then a lot of the other gathered dates that tries to register that. The meetings that represented the opposition they went missing as well or suddenly dropped out of residential campaigns some. Outrageous. Crimes Wear boots on them. So the situation was like similar to the hiding branch off rarely just disappeared somebody some have disappeared without a trace. Some have decided they don't want to take part in the elections. Some others they've decided They have decided a wear forcefully jailed and the charges were put on them. So after the registration level, the candidates again, absolutely zero meetings have been conducted all the president. Not Not any like major ones maybe there were few but they went they went award and they went super popular. And finally the President would win with approximately eighty percent of the votes. And the opposition would strike protests. All the protests were centrally very underground. They won't. Not, a lot of people knew about them. and There were always provocations remember how we have. A lot of what fries police in our country. So like more than in any other country realistically. So. They would conductive they would make provocations such as people running. major buildings of the government and knock knocking on doors like trying to bust and tried to. Essentially. They were provocations to present peaceful protests as violent. And then those protests would be quickly suppressed and the where very little traces of them awake what actually happened to them It goes back in twenty. The Internet wasn't super popular our country. And it was there were a lot of difficulties going online. It was slow. It was unreliable. People were kind of a whatever mobile Internet was like in was incredibly expensive and at its very earliest stages. So it was super slow as well. So people do really know and TV's and made the news public old. Ella. Major News allegations they showed the. Of these showed those protests as being violent well, essentially, they started the violence was started by the opposition and lock our our like angels fees known as Riot Police is trying to suppress them and they also suffering. And also, a common theme that we've seen is that the Internet goes down on on the days of those on on the days of the protests. It's Sel A, it's also similar thing that. has a good this year. and I even told you about it like first three days of protests. The Internet works in absolutely horrendous way like you had to get some pretty advanced VPN's in order to bypass the blokes. Yes so basically are we talked about a week ago and we've been communicating back and forth and basically. He was saying that, yeah I mean basically what you're saying that like it's impossible to talk right now and I'm assuming that we wouldn't have as good a connection as we do now. Yeah we wouldn't. It's actually very convenient that we're starting. So early for me because in the morning, the Internet is fine. Dandy in stable, but in the evening it gets. Progressively slower, maybe it's due to the load because a lot of the people start using it. So I'm not excluding that, but it's also. But there are also blockers of traffic. Being used That's for sure because it doesn't work without VPN's as well. I, been there has been less Internet censorship in the past few days and the protests have been a lot more peaceful now. Although? There's a there's a new. There's a canoe of public meeting coming to on the injured in like a in a in an hour and the half about that time but still it might lead to Michael Down. I'm using I'm using a VPN though so it should be fine. Locks. So I did I did hear one thing of what was it hold on find her name really quick US Fit Lana. I'm going to see seekonk go skyro- Yeah okay close enough. You can. You can use them age yeah. Yeah. So she she fled to Lithuania. Yeah True I see and just with everything you're talking about people disappearing you're dropping out and stuff like that. She probably felt like her life was in danger. Yeah. I'M GONNA address this in a little bit. Okay. So We don't have a lot of time lifetime soon but I still WANNA briefly touch this campaign as well. I've already mentioned how the situation has looked from Lukashenka side of the story like he'd get untrue we do much. Century one but the buildup for the election has been very, very important like this is the point where I would like to stop. Was Gerona situation but given how we don't have a lot of time I'm just going to briefly. Mention how things stoned out in my opinion the corona situation is one of the. Starting points in this electoral campaign of full, the distrust for the president. Because we had no real not real visible measures or the people the President himself I mean I think. The healthcare. The Ministry of Healthcare has done a mostly de some job at taking care of the corona they wear a lot of volunteers who helped along the way. Some major websites prominent people who helped get a protective equipment for the medical stops and also to help organize. Helpful helpful the people. But The government has essentially. ruined. The situation, the political situation for itself by. Saying by saying award of outrageous things. First and foremost look has simply dismissed corona as a psychosis like it's A it's on the Internet. It's very famous there quotes of him saying that in order to not suffer from, are you need to drink vodka do sports steak solemness though it's true. It's there on the Internet like literally. So the plan was to essentially not do anything about the corona and lets. US Go by the you know the two scenarios like the quick one and the law I'm Juan Corona with those graphs like if you're going by wick scenario that you'll is likely to get voted and there is likely to be a lot of casualties. We have, truism, that scenario. And And so our economics were never really closed. There wasn't like any global lockdown or anything at the president just kept saying that arises psychosis and that it's GonNa go away eventually like it's GonNa, hit us in a way through for example, goes away in like wait spring and such. What do all expectations of the krona was going to hit us in like the beak of the corona was going to hit us in late spring and people initially, Salts Corona wasn't as dangerous than that. It wasn't. A to hit us as hard It's nothing was than the common flu for us and so on and so forced a lot of that information will fed. the situation didn't turn out this way that we saw award of bad cases of Gerona as well. The other major The major source of distrust has been. How our healthcare represented healthcare presented statistics on Corona virus. Is that we simply have obligations of the number total number of cases like how many additional cases there were and how. How many people died? And, there were and it was severely under reported basically Brazil tried to do the same and they received. Shit stole of. For trying to do that but we We somehow having. Sold in my opinion, the statistics corona virus whereas severely manipulated we. Didn't probably didn't have a s few cases as the officials stout. Say we definitely had a lot more dead people from corona because. Most of the Because most of the time diagnosis Gambia manipulated our country. in our healthcare certain people are not allowed to die from certain conditions like literal you cannot put it as the cause of this. So well, it's been a wealth less strict nowadays, but it's been a common theme. In the Boston, ten years is out and alongside interventional cardiology. For example, people were not allowed die from my cardio infarction in hall in a hospital. Like if you rode the person died from my car on fire, there would be via consequences for that. And such. So the same thing as well. It's a working scheme. The same exact thing happened happened with corona where people were like he died from on identifiable you monia or he died from heart failure and the the second calls of death maybe like on identified new monia and such. It's just the really horrible was what some of them any relations with statistics can look like the this is how it kind of is. A huge distrust woods, the government and towards the president when the entire world was suffering, it was in the public eye how bad the situation was in Italy how bad it wasn't a UK in the USA. How how many people died and so on the boards which is horrible and On top of it, we looked like like it looked like the garment didn't really give a shit much about its people. Baltic Corona. The President says that you're stupid the statistics tell you absolutely nothing and everybody realizes that they They have their full. Underrepresented and We had a lot of deaths from corona that's for sure but actually, we somehow majorly league up. Lucky in my opinion the UK. Introduce no real measures from the beginning as well. They've seen a really high surge in our ability and then they also. had. A. Lot of people dying like prison was leading in terms of mortality for a while if I remember correctly. And then I have no idea why. But my opinion we simply got lucky that's not as many people died from corona as they did in other countries while I do think that's the total number of deaths is greatly downplayed I. Don't think that it's actually super high like saw something something about it. Will something. Something happened that we just got lucky. We got lucky the not not that many people died. Yeah mice, year. My theory is I feel like more of the Western countries have a higher obesity rate versus a lot of the eastern countries. And I feel like. The lack of health especially especially in our country I mean. It's it's pretty objective. Were we're pretty fat country. and. So we have type two diabetes that we have many other issues as well. versus a lot of the eastern countries that don't have necessarily a higher obesity rate which causes a lot of other issues and I feel like. I mean it kind of you have to go a country by country basis but I, feel like a lot you guys I, mean the amount you guys walk. It just alone comparatively to Americans I mean when I wake up the morning, I, take my steps to go into my car I drive and I take my sequoia, my office and I sit and do whatever walking is in between I. Obviously I I'm healthier I work out I and I make sure I take care of myself because I am a type one diabetic if you Lose this yeah. So. Actually. Yeah Yeah so so I I I'm I'm skinny. I'm fit in and I do whatever I can take care of myself just. Statistically speaking the amount of steps that you guys take because you guys probably use a lot more public transportation not a lot of people have cars over there in you guys walk. Much further distance. Got Russia was a great example of I got. I felt like I was walking just miles upon miles or for for you speaking auditors and stuff like that. But I was walking a lot and I I lost I guess freeze do kilogram. So I probably lost not. You know four kilograms or something like that for just being there for two weeks. Ago Yeah Yeah it's nice and and and I felt better like doing it. So I believe that. You know these countries they get. People who are just Kinda naturally skinnier just with third lifestyle who are a little bit more health conscious and stuff like that are not doing so bad and when you see in America I mean you you guys probably big fund and make jokes about you know the obesity you know a lot of Americans are fat, which is somewhat Everybody makes those jokes Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Of course, and so I I believe that. Is kind of a wakeup call to our country especially saying that you know we're not healthy just in general and if we were healthier or be a lot less deaths. So I. Mean. That's that's kind of my opinion on. So I don't know how your country is. necessarily. I. Mean of course you have some obese people but generally speaking you guys. Probably have a better. A population that has better circulation compared to. A. Lot less diabetes and stuff. That's just my opinion on it, but you know I could be wrong. Maybe maybe well, yeah. I'd be really interested in talking to you about insulin situation in the US but since we're running short on time them, we're gonNA maybe if you WANNA. Talk about it some other time it'd it'd be interesting. Is since you're a type one diabetic actually quite curious about the situation was insulin. In the US because a code, it's Brady bad. But. Getting better. Off For me, I'm fine. I've I been my mom's a diabetic too. So she. Kind of walked me through the ropes on how to do it. I've always had medical insurance and stuff, and so I've been fine but again. That's anecdotal. I have I. do feel like after work a little harder to make sure I have Enslin and I. I. Have Good Medical Coverage. has a very good job. Yeah. It is. It is pretty expensive and I kind of get into the politics of that. But but overall for being I'm fine when it comes to insulin my health everything else I'm fine. So. Moving on. The coronavirus. Keep going. So Yep. the coronavirus has been in my in one of the. one of the like lost drops towards people's was people's distrust for the government that now conducts. Completes like the full cycle is out of people don't like the the way that the public is regulated. They don't like president the president having absolute charge of it. They don't trust our current president because he's being. Showing his bad side, even more and more. And also the people now start to realize that our economic situations pretty bad low wages, lots of broken promises of fixing the situation of those have essentially never came to fruition and the one of the People's needs on now falling on deaf is. A. So. This presidential campaign has been why it's a shit show and the major difference between between this campaign and the previous ones that is that it has been extensively documented by all the public websites. So In my opinion, the real oppositional movements thought it with. Ski, who is a husband? Duff's IT LANA Who is well now super famous. he was a blogger who created a a youtube channel called the country for life. Well a country Livan was. This something inside like to live in. What would be? Yeah, that's that's her. That's her alliance. The country for life I see her yokel party independent thing yeah. Yeah. so He created the Youtube channel that and he started going to regions and asking people about their lifestyle will essentially doing what you're doing right now is measly discussing this situation discussing what's going on how they could improve whether they're happy or not, and Solan so forth. And he started getting a little bit popular some of his. Meetings glow will grow in the virus boosted him a little bit because the people's distrust started growing the people's concerns about the government started growing as it was an election year to. and he started showing people are not actually really that happy about the regime like they may not have a voice. huge public voice, but they also starting to starting to lose the fee on the talking they're willing to talk about those things. so some he started organising meetings to gather signatures for himself, and in fact, he wouldn't be getting He didn't really say that you wanted to collect signatures but he said that he wanted to start the opposition because elections wouldn't be fair anyways So one of. On in one of those meetings. He was. There was a provocation. the reason I say it so confidently is because there are videos out there that he was jailed unfairly and even look a fan cal later said that as he he directly gave the order to jail him and. In, the in the next sentence key was what he was saying, what's I was protecting my country did I do anything wrong? In that. So, yeah. Yeah. This is about the lack of empathy by the way he has absolutely no. Fear of the opposition and he's like embassy. He's he's completely out of touch was what the people think. So the video got a lot of publicity on that video a woman approaches to gay and she screams wildly at him to on some outrageous questions about him Jewish she's like dodging Kim and so on and so forth. So easily key dismissals Kirke as well. She is a provocation he doesn't push her he doesn't do anything he just leaves. The woman runs towards two policemen. She tells them something like. A second later like. Registered to police officers that are conveniently standing close to her and the and those police officers I talk to her for like one second widow we no more than that like. She just she shout something and lay start going after gay. Then one of those police officer is gently put down on the ground like I'm not exaggerating there is video he's literally gently what's down on the ground and this officer pretends that he's being he's been hurt. So. He he grabs the stomach she the he was a picture of him was done later show and sitting on a bench and like. Sitting on a bench showing that he's visibly suffering and such. and there were medical records like he was taken to hospital or even medical records which said that he had possible abdominal trauma like. mind. that. And so he got detained by. the police after the officer was put down and he has not been released ever since. Jesus. So, afterwards, The video got crazy publicity. Everybody knew that this was super unfair. So people started organizing more beachings and his group especially started organizing more of them. So they were out with riot, elise at least have started dismissing them like using force or fully mind that. And he's he's representatives also started getting jailed one by one even the drivers that were carrying this were airing this movement even they got jailed. So On the next day conveniently a new video on his channel up where he talked to some person which was prerecorded, but it was scheduled to post a youtube has. An option to schedule your video. So he did that and it was posted the next day after he got jail. And that video also got Razi publicity and so everybody was like wait. Why is this quiz guy? I mean he talks A good things he. was supposed to be an opposition are he got unfairly jailed doesn't seem like a bad guy in all in this case, and then isn't I a cruise getting arrested the peaceful meetings and roads as getting getting forcefully ended people are getting jailed in detained. It's just pretty horrible Oh. got. Eliciting. And other candidates started to join in on the opposition movement. the most prominent to launch. A major political figures, but it's call and victory buddy. Especially, a victim of Erica, who was the favorite candidates to To win these elections if he had actually been registered. He had a huge team of supporters organized his campaign and a lot of lawyers. And there were a lot of. Bad things regarding this campaign. So we'll talked a lot of shit about TV publicly lives the the signatures that I previously talked about collected BAIOCCO Shantha whales in public water of people reported being threatened to put their signatures for him and Bob. Rico was a person who started bringing these things to live like his legal team filed awatef complaints in the Central Election Committee. to dismiss Lukashenko for breaking rules of the elections because he was talking shit about other candidates, he was jailing unfairly all the candidates it was he he was collecting signatures in the legal matters and so on and so forth is there's lodge documents that is also available with all. It was all of those problems. So Bubba Rica was also jailed. And he's and he's he was the leader all a major bank in our country, not a leader in the head in charge of a major bank in our country for. A really long time as well. So the bank was worth entered. They were award off A lot of documents were dug up some people's are people who had their. Funds in the bank the report is theft wrong their accounts from their personal belongings. and there was a large. Centrally, it was presented as they're being as a large corruption scheme at he was in charge all. So needless to say the people. been the believe lot because. But what he was essentially opposing, look a franker in an open calm and thought is fashion like he was super calm about all of that wasn't forceful. He was very peaceful is other should fight with legal means. He said that we are go into, you know we're going to peacefully protest. And He was jailed and that's scheme apparently was uncovered. The hasn't been a trial yet and the only reason labs of. And the only reason somebody can. Not Be registered as the candidates the president to the President of Belarus, is actually if they if they have been. Go the word if if If the court found them guilty for what transgression? So there has still been no court regarding his situation is like this is still being uncovered in the process. But also all the major US publications That's where government controlled. They boasted a large videos and news reports all. The scheme of how it worked off the people involved in the scheme admitting that they were. Trafficking money in such they and they essentially said the Barco is isn't chargeable those and he is guilty and corrupted down cerebral and so on. He. The funny thing is a when it came to. Discussing the registration of candidates. When that day came Buddy Co was actually not registered based on a recommendation from the bureau all forensic invents investigations. And let me remind you the in charge of the Bureau of the forensic investigation is the president. So essentially, he wasn't registered by. He was jailed by President and he wasn't allowed to become a candidate based. On the decision of the organization controlled by the president. And the head of the Central Election Committee is also is also chosen by the president so she didn't register him. So. This is. Big Basically, publicly known. And and everybody knows this and then they go into an election with. Who knows? He could have even one maybe it would have been close or something like that. But he. You know he gets eighty percent of the vote. And and you have the riots and. The protests and everything because everybody in the country pretty much especially just in minks are is like there is no way she only. Spent long got. Fourteen percent of the vote. Another candidate that I mentioned previously, it's Also had a really popular campaign. It wasn't as actively an opposed there wasn't opposed the controversy, but he was wasn't filing like any procedures against the president or say or spreading information about the stuff that's been happening. But he wasn't registered at the earlier point. He wasn't registered as a candidate because he didn't officially. Get One. Hundred Gay signatures he did wake over one hundred gay in fact, but a lot of those signatures were deemed as fake by the Election Committee and this is a real interesting situation as well. It goes. How exactly do you recognize that a signature is fake for somebody you know? You. The data of the people who put those signatures is elected their addresses that phone numbers and stuff, and also their signatures. So it's easy to like. Coal Somebody and ask, did you did you sign for this guy and person is GonNa say Yeah I did or no I didn't. But the Election Committee Took like maybe hassled hairs, it may not have. But at least when two percents if I remember correctly of his signature is down because they weren't they were recognized as. An especially prominent gays was one of the wasn't one of the regions of men's. Franzen skin. Out is a Franziska district. where a the election committee actually replied to formal complaints. and they. said that they don't think the dates of when those signatures were aware. Lately are written in a different. Written differently than what the rest of the information about signage of all the CIDER looks like. So in order to confirm this they They sent a document into the Bureau of Forensic Investigations to conduct Kelly Graphical research on whether those signatures were actually left by those people. and. Just so you know, well, Kelly graphical research is one of the most difficult and expensive if. Ways of proving something lane, you need to prove the something is written by the by the exact same person and for that you need award of. About how the person brides you need a lot of examples and you need specifically transfers. So now who's going to confirm that? this be search to less than three days by the bureau forensic investigations. They confirmed that the signatures were faked it less than three days less than three days to look over the ball to. Analyze over five to six thousand signatures them. Like it's just absolutely mind boggling and unreal. anyways and So he wasn't registered as well. And the only candidate that was actually left register was. Taken off scale. Sergei was detained and He could not Lace A. He couldn't. He couldn't become a candidate because he was in jail so he couldn't they weren't. Him with visits where he could sign also necessary documents register as a candidate. So instead he's wife's Lana to his role as she was like well, I'm going to do that if he is jailed detained and there's no way for him to apply then I'm going to apply And she actually got wonky signatures and she extra got registered. So she wasn't the only candidate of the opposition. was in fact registered. And All of the other groups of the position with victory for Buddy. Co With Sakala latest united with her. So it was pretty dumb move in life. All August, Anka's Bard because he not only got himself some really bad publicity or refusing all those things in the public eye, but he also united the entire opposition in one leader. He did he doesn't perceived as dangerous and she's not a dangerous person like she's easel protester. still there were a lot of smart and a prominent united behind her that point. So you help to organize a campaign and helped her. and. One more important thing is at the opposition kept growing because those outrages were literally everywhere. Those outrageous people read about people talk the ball dome everybody started looking at independent use Lewis's. Started looking up to the opposition. And people thought it through testing like every single problem that I mentioned previously was met with protests. Sergei being detained was mattress protests them signatures where met with protests about because jail time was met with protests a- BARRACAS blurry can be registered. As. As a candidate in into the presidency was also met was protests. All of those protests with peaceful and a lot of people were actually met with force during those protests. A lot of them were jailed eating. There were a lot of unfair quotes with. in was literally no evidence all the people like the courts conducted in like a fast track fashion you know. there were some papers that. The that said, we jailed this guy there there and they're from the from the officials key was resisting arrest. He was chanting stuff. He was be violent and stuff when realistically those people went violence, they went doing much of anything outside of standing on the streets. and. They were detained. They wear falsely accused and they were money by those courts. Many of the people who were there they report Policeman who had to give their sides of the story and when asked about events they they onces way like I remember anything I don't i. don't recognize this. I don't remember this. But like even even being asked what they were wearing that we're giving false. False evidence. They were wrong about what the people were actually wearing at that point and they were standing on the streets. and. Those people still got charged those they were found guilty they were charged as well. So. SANITA to say this. The all of this has sparked even more resistance because peaceful protesters were met with fullest deliberately jailed even the a lot of people who are just nearby were going. To do their own saying they were just randomly taken in jail. All of this has been in the public eye People have their position has just completely started growing and uniting on the law. So. With the election elections approaching nearby everybody was concerned that the votes wouldn't be protected at all. And that Oh, there was no way to know the true results because the election committees would falsify results anyways. How local? Commissions. Of the there are some audio recordings off exactly how the emissions where falsifying new, where falsifying their results, even logo commissions and will we don't really have any means of tracking the higher ones But there were what else Waste proposed? To. Take a look at how many which we have. So, for instance we have. preliminary voting like up preliminary but The official day of the elections was on the ninth of August, but you could also vote on the days before. So a lot of people wanted to become observers of the situation. to observe how many people were going in and out of the. Out of the election. Election Commissions. And also how And also people started an independent platform old voice where people were encouraged to take votes all to take pictures all. Of Their Apis once they were, they voted on and submit them to a independence telegram. Bought that boots calculates the overall results. And it's actually a platform that received over a million people although it has been somewhat somewhat compromised as far as I know and we still haven't heard of any of the results that. They gathered unfortunately. Yeah. But people weren't guards to a lot of things to show that they were voting for the opposition such as well. White Bracelets, and also fold their spouse, their their ballots in a very specific manner to show the commission that you know. You can see how they folded. You can see how many people op force with lava. So there's no way you could count eighty percent of the votes Volga Schenken of. Alcohol. Yeah. There was something else important that I wanted to mention but you can go ahead with your question. Oh no I I I was just going to kind of move on from NASCAR question. So if if you have any other important details, you go ahead or we could just kinda move on. Oh, yeah detail. Is that observers also stay? There were also water observes present on every. on every. Every commission. For the the official day of the elections because most of electoral fells ulcer fixations were are actually conducted on. on the days before the official day of the of the voting. In fact, in this year, it was reported that forty percent of the people actually votes of before the nine. Oh everybody drew concerned about how that could have been. and a lot of observers reported their commissions Signing up a lot more people than actually gave to vote. So, observers would count like twenty people who visited the commission but official results would say like over a hundred. What the end think Oh God. And go well. Yeah. This is like about the. End of the. Of Our presidential campaign because on the nine's awards. For Women Preliminary preliminary results not the preliminary the preliminary results for on the fence but on the nine to official exit polls shoulder information citing routes had over eighty something eighty, three percent of the votes. And the people who were trying to. Fight for fair elections were trying to protect the votes who were shown just how little it actually matters of what they do. That Not caused a really, really huge uproar. And after those eighty percents, a lot of people took to the streets fact they think the niners was actually the most violence. The protesting day out of all of them. in terms of people's aggression because there were there was some footage of people initiating fights was riot police on this day later on there wasn't as much fighting was more defending and right now it's relatively peaceful and then it was bad. And also the Internet went down on the other nines way. Unless you had a VP 'em, it was pretty much completely inaccessible to everybody on the a few websites would actually work. So, what do you think the American or what? What do you think people outside the country? How what can we do to help? Well it's about spreading the word. It's about showing your support. It's about S- There are a lot of websites already that proposed ruining your. Own Representatives, of your region so they would encourage are off all the countries to. Repress to not acknowledge our elections to repress country to sanction elderly. and. It's a working measured my billion because we have very fragile economy and without outside support, the the government is going to collapse very very quickly. This is also one of the prime reasons. Of our leaders didn't want to close the borders when it came to corona virus. Then, another way that you can do is ask Organiz charity. Is Organized Charity Funds Churning. Fonts. How Law and Apple? Apple. Needs. Advocates for them. People need lawyers to defend themselves even though the system is absolutely rigged in favor of government. people still need help people especially need medical help. So there are some people I know will are working on bonds. A to. A full for medical aid? And I've tried to come in contact with some really popular charity on Spa. They have pretty much ignored the to provide support for the medical field. and. I. Think you just Kinda beautifully explained everything well, the whole time I was just sitting there. It was just like she's US I. I never had. Just. Any thought that Belarus was anywhere near like that I I came into it. Not Knowing anything and now I, feel like I'm. Just I'm blown away I. It's it's crazy and I. I feel really bad what's going? You know was what you guys are going through right now. It it. It sounds scary. It's it's just so interesting. It's kind of maddening almost that you guys are going through this and. An how to radical? It's turning in such a short time. Yeah, it feels really bad. But you know we're we're managing it somehow luckily, we're not very violent nation. So even with all of the bad things that are going on there is even even with all the bad things that are going on Ebola still protesting in very peaceful fashion. I feel like. I mean, I assume that you're short on time so going to be able to discuss the riots let's have been going on in a few days. Special Corona situation which. Unfortunately. We didn't have time for. Is. It seems like there's so much stuff to unpack. It's crazy. I did not. Expect. Me Talking to take so long. Oh. This perfect perfectly fine. I Want I. Want People to know this, and I want to help you by spreading the information to other countries and you know I'm not I'm not the biggest podcast are out there. But I do everything. I can for people to hear this and show people you know what the actual realities of the situation are. And I I believe this was a great conversation and and I do look forward to talking team more about a lot of other issues as well. We could probably do episode to somewhere in the near future obviously have things lined up here in the upcoming weeks on. Is there anything I know I know you WANNA I don't know how private you WanNa keep your things but is there anything that you want to promote anything that you want to? Plug in. Yemane since I`ve I've decided to not be anonymous about it anymore no it I is the situation was. Scary and It's it's still it's still not entirely clear where we heading but at least it's a what peaceful now it could be calm before the storm. As. It usually happens and especially how it happened in. Ukraine because it was peaceful for a while before sitting incredibly violent. But I also think one of the reasons we are able to. One of the reasons we are able to actually fight as the opposition is because We are no longer recognized us. Oh, well, the opposition is like A. Tag It implies something bad like it has A. Anton. Hello. Hello. Looks like he got out guys. It looks like I'm probably just going to end the episode right here unfortunately as you heard, we talked about a lot of things and. It was pretty crazy. So unfortunately yeah, he cut out. So. I will end the Dow thank you guys for listening I really wanted to bring light to what was going on and my mind was just blown throughout this whole conversation and obviously he had so much to say and I wish we had more time to say more. So we will definitely do a follow up episode on you guys could. LISTEN TO BE ON YOUTUBE LISTEN TO BE ON spotify apple podcast I'm I just index myself at the other weekend on. Pretty. Pretty much any platform. So Phil, Freda giving me listen Oh here he is for a second I'll have them properly quick. Hello, are you so you still there? Okay. Yes I assume it's getting close to the time of the major gathering today. So I assume my Internet's tried to go down A. Yeah. Well, well, I was I basically was just saying you know we're pretty much all wrapped up and how amazing this conversation was Is there any any social profiles? Is there anything that you want to share Yes. So let me finish my salt a little bit. To win the longer, the opposition because the opposition is kind of deemed does a bad word and at the moment, it's the people like me, my friends and a lot of the other ones. Who are taking to the streets and trying to fight for the independence. it's just normal people right now and I believe that. The. Normal. everage everyday people is the is the way to go here. So I decided in decided to not do this anonymously if anything is going to come let it come but. I'm I'm not some kind of help positional leader from the outside who is terrible and doing everything of to protest the peace in our country on. Average Person Calypso year who is aware of the political situation we are currently in and who doesn't like it. So I will leave I would leave some accounts that you can follow me on and I on certain. Questions on Reddit as well. If you're if you're for it soon. Yeah. If you if you give me the social profiles, I will definitely out have been the description. Yeah. And I've been working on some things for you to that you can check out. Wants to make channel is some educational stuff. So if you enjoyed. These if you enjoy these kind of talks about the. About some new Info, some say something educational and I hope that you could follow the Youtube Channel and will post some pretty interesting stuff soon. Coal Will. Anton thank you so much. This was. I'm glad I stayed up to almost two o'clock to talk to you about this because this is what I want. This is why I love and you've given me so much more insight. Now, you probably giving me more education on Belarus than any university can ever give me. Are, there. No that was that was the point of it all and. Cutting out. Okay. I should he find? Is it on? Your. your I'm also happy to do that because to outside observers may seem really wild what is happening here but if you're familiar with the situation than it just seems like the next logical step in in the course of fall over our country and the hepatitis, the news, and I'm really happy for this opportunity to be able to talk to at least a few people may who will listen to this and maybe if this gets traction than just going to be super happy stay outside world can now see what's going on. Yeah. Definitely. Well, I'll do my best to you know. Shoot it out there so much for everybody to here. But again, thanks for talking to be and Will keep contact. We'll talk soon. Thank you so much. I'm also really have the homeless Yeah Oh? Yeah. Definitely. Well, thanks Anton. We'll talk to you soon.

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Game Scoop Episode 506

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Game Scoop Episode 506

"GE games. What up everybody? Welcome Daij in game. Daemon Hatfield joining this week is Davis group Sam Claiborne, everybody and CJ Gibson. What's up? We have a great show for you this week about another long running game company that we've lost in the past week. Unfortunately, no reductive we're going to unlock secret topic. I have no idea what you're talking about. That's related to vegan twenty questions. So we have to play the game twenty questions before we discuss this. All right, Harry, but first happy fifth birthday to the PlayStation for right? Earn five today win. This is being recorded November fifty and there's at least one game per year for for so. Yeah, that's true. There are good games. At least five games feel. I don't know. It was her game launch here. Well lunch year like to November. November and December resident. Yeah. Was a launching. Yeah. That's really fun. I think four was that year black flag that was cross jam. But I played it on his. Yeah. It was a showcase on PS four one of my favorite. I think this video saw mine you can find it on YouTube jam, but we did the mass on boxing. I say this this day five years ago. It was a really fun day at Jin because pretty much everyone. I thought had bought a places in four and they all right. We just had stacks and sags radio. And we'd line them all up thirty. All in Baucau same time. Yeah. And that was all some people in the comments like this is gross add for Sony, and I'm like we bought all the this is down my gross ads for Sony worked on us. Yes, I'm still using that for an upgraded the launch. I have the same lunch. When also g XBox OG Xboxes birthday here just read as yeah. Fryer ago. Yeah. Imagine boxing for that one before my time, we didn't. And that was because it was Greg Miller that organized the PS four one who you're thinking of Xbox One. He's talking about OG X. Oh, gee G now. But we didn't we didn't do a mass boxing of the Xbox One. Because you know, there was not the internal champion to like really make that happen. Like there was with. I think the Xbox One is a week after did you guys owns this week before like an XBox? No, one ideal school skies halo. Yeah. I never owned an original XBox? Eugene heavy. Yeah. It's mass. That's where I played nights of the old Republic. Yeah. That was to name drop comes in sky sky's. That's like that is like top-five please bring this back abs- game. Why is that? I don't know. I'm as they haven't brought a licensed. So it's not you know, everyone knows as video game. But it started. It's a tabletop roleplaying game that they made a video game version of some maybe there's weirdness around getting that back. I may have just made that up by the way. But I don't think it was like an original IP base. It off also game though. Anyway, it's the place. Fourth birthday, not the Osieck sign. Right. So for is five that used to be like it was it ripe old age for video game concert. Really? Yeah. N E S. From eighty five to ninety. Well, so was like one that was his game where the longest well later. Yeah. Like generations are getting a little bit longer. PS one PS two five years is about it. But by retro gaming standards, five years old consul. We would normally. Yeah. We would normally at least have a new one if the new consul wasn't here. Now, at least it was like on the horizon coming game. We was two thousand one hundred and six. Yeah. And now, we don't have you don't have really anything on nexgen. They'll doesn't one they do so many hardware it or rations now to those four. Yeah. I mean, what are they ever do? They really remake any s like there was a different version. There's voter. Yeah. That's right. It's it's been very special. Every console almost every console is had a revision that made it smaller and quieter in this, but making them more powerful that like one point five generation that was new to this time. There's already two games announced for PS five, which one elder scrolls. And then today or yesterday there was a final fantasy game. That's being a luminous production. Game coming from squaring. Yeah. Although I think that wasn't an I think it was like linked in profile, right? Like, I don't think they put out an ounce -ment. That's like we're making is games. Only one games have been announced psi, and they actually confirmed elder scrolls for they said nexgen neck. Yeah. That one was like they showed it and mentioned specifically that this is not until the next generation. Okay. We hope to start hearing about the next one. I think three or before it. I mean, it's a little bit semantics right like there's an assumption. It safe issue to assume that cyberpunk will, you know, becoming out on next like anything that's more than a year ways. Probably next gen. But the difference is did the developer come out and save. And then you you might Bethesda might be the only one that. Just sounds like. Yep. Those last two years of consoles are always just great so five years into the development cycle. We should be getting like really good stuff, and we are us too. But in terms of like win we start hearing about PS five there haven't been enough. Rumors about it really doesn't tell me. That's that's what I was getting at earlier this is impending. It's very quiet still. Remember like, so we were calling the PS for Orbis before it was are we why? In the lead up to the big reveal or that was like the the code name. But it was like two years of rumors about it that we were reporting on constantly until it was finally unveiled that sort of that to recycle hasn't spun up yet. Neither of those consoles are coming next year. They'll be announced next year. We'll come twenty as my prediction. We'll be PlayStation five I assuming probably going to be. Yeah. The naming structure XBox is the bigger question. Yeah. Currently selling it scarlet project scarlet are by Scarlets that has a codename. Yeah. Or at least ya now. I don't know if Microsoft is using that internally. But that's what we're calling sermon so stores five years old. How do you think it ranks like is it the best PlayStation zone is ever produced? No people would do. Right. Yeah. It's getting close from unit sales though, like what is it isn't it like eighty plus? Yeah. It's a gigantic success for Sony. Yeah. I guess it depends on how you majoring it. I would say no just because the PS two was such a landmark Anna DVD player and that was essential. It just made itself. Essential. That was definitely one that console generation in like any slight anyways Leisa. And but looking back you think you've got more like enjoyment out of your PS two than you've gotten out of your PS four and five years. Yeah. Those three games, I think so. And I love my lingering PS four is my console of showy, but like thinking back from then to now like PC gaming's com come on a lot stronger, and you know, Nintendo has come back locks stronger with its different vision for gaming whereas back in the PS two era. They were still sort of languishing. So I don't think that the PS four is like the essential must own like if you're a gamer you had to have a PS two. And I don't think the PS four is quite there. I don't know. I think there's a case to be made though. 'cause it's weird that within this era, PlayStation four's actually done. Really? Well, I was an OG XBox guy. And it was the first time where I even considered being like main for PlayStation can't believe that. I did XBox sixty multiplayer games flipped over on attentive systems this whole. Oh, yeah. I mean, I was in ten you're going to choose two out of three euros, XBox, Nintendo. Yeah. Common company, and that's fair. But it's weird. Let me I think if you look at what your PlayStation four does. It's it's a really good system. And who knows how long will take it after production. Like, do you think they'll like kill it right off the bat like when PlayStation comes out because until he's a question to nobody mentioned the PS. Three yet was gonna say, I definitely like the four lot more than peace. Yes. Absolutely. And I think the PS classic is sort of reminding us that council of maybe is. Yeah. PS one remember? Yeah. Yeah. So I guess. Important just sure and beloved in. But like it's tough to play those games now. Yeah. Just those games on hold up as well. Yeah. PS three. Yeah. I mean, I mean, the three sixty one I guess, I don't know. Actually, if it went on a console sales tied like near the end like PlayStation three actually made a comeback. It was very difficult to develop. There's no denying that the PS three was like a little bit on a little bit shakier ground the PS two, which was just the absolute dominant. Game console. No matter how you look at it. And then Sony gave up some of that ground, and then won it back this Jenner three sixty just couldn't sell Japan. Yeah. I mean. Cade all these Greek sales there, it'd be five hundred. I don't think it's really changed with the same changed, but like not for drastically. But that that pumps up the Sony number so much right there wide accepted. You know game console. That sells a lot in Japan Europe in here. Yeah. And the exclusives. I mean, that's when they kinda like, PlayStation three exclusives or major, and maybe Microsoft incentive maybe or apple or vice versa. Maybe Microsoft's Sony. That's a lot of the problem. No wouldn't be good for us. If that. On some sad news. Let's last week late last week found that prima games shutting down. Producer of the the the leading producer of strategy guides. If not the only producer of physical strategy gun. Remaining today. Eight up some of the others. They're still rated games. I think they merged with Brady games. Yeah. And and they got the name. Also, there's still a company called piggyback, which is publishing Hagi back is doing strategy. They did red should for instance. Whoa. That's really high quality. They're almost like more collectors, eat straight out. Typically, that's what I wonder if there's going to be more of an opportunity for that sort of thing. Now. I mean that's been the strategy guide thing for a long while now. Right. Whereas it's like half strategy. I had not have like seventy five percent strategy guide. But it's also like a beautiful coffee table like art almost. Yeah. Vizo the ones like that. Like Nintendo worked with some really nice. Although, but not prima. I don't think it was. I remember that darkhorse deal. And then I just can't remember it at all when I have it on my desk. Apologies if it's premium not knocking them part of the news. They'll shut down the first half of next year. They're not gonna commission any new strategy guy's and discontinue all printing by spring twenty nineteen. It's super sad. I agree that. But then also like, I don't think I ever bought a strategy guy myself. But I don't think so really what do you what else like? Twenty eight years we with the news. That's where we learned that there's this divide between like some gamers shell full of strategy. And sometimes it was just a more common part of gaming culture in some households. Where like I never owned one got them through intendo power idol. Well, that's. I didn't I got a couple of free from power thirty years ago Damon someone was paying that subscription. Yeah. Yeah. I've never like bought bar strategy are your three and final fantasy. Yeah. Guide into. I don't think I have that one. That one's really funny house. Good. Seems like excessive to do a full magazine spread for you need to see the map dot level. Well, yeah, I just wonder how they do it. Now. I mean. Yeah, I think I remember just having the folded page of the Zelda one any s map with all the little issue. One of so good, and yeah, it's weird. Now looking back that I mean, but again with games being as service now and everything else. It's definitely harder. How they do that with updates and destiny I didn't wanna say out loud. That's fair you reacted strongly. When they said that they didn't have surge guys. You bought them? All it will I like to buy some for the games that I was into. I went back and play them a lot. Yeah. So linked to the pass all it's up. I can't imagine doing without it. And even a lot of the fighting games like mortal combat in street fighter two knowing all the codes and needing to go there to learn them, all like at an arcade cabinet like I spent a good majority of my life. They're no kidding. I my used the university equivalent of the internet in one thousand nine hundred nineteen Ninety-three where my parents worked to get moral combat to code for like super Nintendo or no for the for the fatalities print out. Although moves into your cave. Yeah. So that's how I voted. Ninety nine strategy guide already the internet was reading industry. So from that, you're the problem when little Sammy clayborn started downloading codes from you know, Arizona state university's equivalent. Joe's Cicek, they knew they were in trouble. That was it. And it was all it was like half of them weren't real. Never out there. But when the real we experienced this this week when we got the codes for game shark. Yep. Old right. All day long trying to get that to work spend, a working working professionals. They kind of a lunch period that was spent but we had to find game short codes for thing. And it worked didn't sign the prima news like, you know, sad. Right. Like this. That's guides at a part of people is forever is gone. But like sort of an aspect of it that sad that I hadn't really thought about until the news came out in the tweet started pouring in dozens and dozens of people that you know, you read in like in respect that work in the industry used to get paid by prema- games to do game guide content, including me before I worked at Jian. I was working with you know, prima doing doing some freelance work for them not actually guide writing. But you know, other work and they've touched the lives, and you know, help the livelihoods of dozens of well known beloved people as they were sort of coming up. And so that's a bummer. That's that's super sad. Whenever you see somebody like that just not exist anymore sim. You're hired I into right guides and you still overseas. Cider guides team. Like, do you feel like you contributed to? Yeah. I demise. I mean, I think the internet hurts publishing like, and I just want to say that there's a there's been some I've actually seen some negative response. Like, if it wasn't for these big sites like g and then, you know, that would premiums will be here. Well, let me just point out. I have twenty five freelancers of four in house writers myself and a bunch of people contribute. Actual people writing. Really? It's Reggie guides. You all can use for free at all at all times. And I'm really proud of that. So I'm not gonna say like, you know, I'm sad that Primoz gone because I Jan guides are going to do. Well, like, I would never say that. But like we're really proud of our guides here. And we're doing it for our own reasons and really happy, we can write a free service. That's that's amazing. We also there's a lot of scummy bad cheat websites out there, you click on the domain, and you don't know what you're gonna get blasted with and what you're gonna see pages. Yeah. Exactly. And I'm not going to say that like jeans ads sometimes even annoying to me. But like as a business like. No, we have standards that we uphold that I'm really proud of guides and use them and will continue to use them for decades. Like our goal is to make them searchable. So you can find them easily fast. So you can get where you need and then easy to bounce out of we don't wanna make these like cliquey rabbit holes or anything like that. So just just you know, we're working really hard on really good guides here. And it's just that's just what we do. We love doing it. We'll maybe you could help me out then because some of the reason why transition from that state is ninja Guidon one for OG XBox. Who actually did that guideway? That's a good time. It was before me. But it could have been Mark Ryan who hired me here because he was running the team is during the or David Clement guides. It's kind of like a fighting. His was amazing. There was these things called scarabs that you need to collect different weapons to get. Honestly, like, it was the main reason it was probably I mean, I came Jan early before that, but that was like two thousand four that's the thing that got me coming back every time that there was a game. Whereas like, oh need to actually know. Like what I'm doing? And the guys are amazing that stuff I think sometimes people think it's very commodities like cheats are just out there, those cheese just exist, but they have to be found the secrets and collectibles have to be found. They have to put on a map and there's no shortcut like a human being has to find that. And do that work like the amount of hours that are spent into making like red dead guide art uncountable. And yeah, you mentioned before I did you mentioned Essen for added the calcified fragments thing and taking king that was one of the most viewed I use that tons for that, even when you know getting here. Do you have any insight into how this would work a publisher would oppose your give prima games and early copy of its game? So that helps your premiums writers could play through it and write the whole guide and have it right here. Be like an embedded reporter. And I think it's changed a little bit since you can share builds on debugged kit now, and that's just different than what it was twenty years ago. But that would be the idea, and then of course, they paid for exclusive relationships. So that was that was the situation. It wasn't that you know, you would just be obligated to put your guide writer in with a staff. You would you know, work out a business relationship and there'd be a publishing, you know, situation for both parties would make money. So that was that's why you can say official strategy guide. Now, the unofficial guides those come out after the fact because people are getting the games, and then playing them and putting out an unofficial the official ones means that you know, it was beneficial to both parties about that. Like, you know, that's that's a. There's a lot of money tied up in publishing you have to print send out, and then you also have to work out these relationships for your business. You can't do not just a writer. That's taking screen shots. You split the money with Nintendo for each guide sold. That's why that businesses, you know, probably struggling compared to their and magazines, for instance, compared you like the book in St. still fine authors potion lots of books and everything there's certain that. I think became expensive versus the internet strategy guides are also C J you touched on this earlier. But if you look at the most popular games on earth. None of them are appropriate to physical print strategy guides fortnight's G, for instance, Rhoda how do you do it or frame warfare legend look at the magazine rack at your grocery store. There is a magazine there for four night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But they're not like the game out. Here's your page guide day went up dates and all stuff like even just looking at your shirt. I realized that the old school Zelda, but think about linked to the past stuff. How would you actually it's amazing to me that those games still got released? More amazing. The quality control nose would have been with no bugs bugs or anything. Like that. Like how often do games release and like a day? Patch? Oh, this quest line. Well, it was too difficult. So we changed it. We see that in print guides now that they have outdated information early builds. That's great I'm disclaimers. It's not their fault. Like, there's absolutely no about that. That's what I mean. Well, we I mean, an I love assesses creed odyssey but parts of that game. You know, we're broken and Ubisoft out fixed them they release a big patch. And hey, we fixed a bunch of stuff. But before when that game was on a cart and that console is a closed box. And there was no way. Like how stressful in horrible is it to ship again? And then UCS like there's a game breaking bug and I finished game that can never be fixed battle toads Clinger winger stage. You cannot do that with two players the other controller doesn't work. So the guy gets there. And you're like, hey, let's do this can't move. I think it was twilight Princess has you can get yourself. You can get locked in a dungeon. If you spend your keys their way, you can't get out the very first iteration of Carina of time, which is as aniversary next week. So we've been talking about and playing a lot you can get the fishing pole from the fishermen, and you can try to leave with it. And I think it's a game crash, and you can't really come back from that. And so that's why the first interruption of that cartridge came out, and there's three durations of that Carter's, that's so rare for intendo issued different codes, you know, sets for that crazy to think about a cartridge getting made three different ways that's expensive well with the loss of prima games. Guess there's still an opportunity for publishers to create guides to go along with their collector's editions. If there's that'd be a good packet for the collector's edition, the differences. Now, there isn't a business setup premature that's exactly what they do that they can form that too. They have to find someone to write that whole guide. And then they have to have it published themselves. We'll do that for you. There's a there's these Bucci guides that are out now four games like earthbound an animal crossing, right? And they're so cool there. They are drawn art. Yeah. You know, obviously, they're not for games that are popular in out right now. But they're the opposite of that there for games that you might love and somebody explored this game in this really neat way. And you just want to own that, you know, it's like this big explosion of that game the love. And that is the reason that I know many people get into guide writing is that they love the game so much that they want to explore it every corner of it. They want to make you know, just as really break the game into its components. They still enjoy that. And then that's why they walk throughs and send them ties Yanan game facts. And that's why they contribute to Wicky and all this stuff. It's like it's about the kind of the love of the game that like spills over into what am I gonna do about it? Well, I'm gonna make something with it. I think that's really cool. I should write a super monkey ball walk through you could do it. Now, you can do a little cartoons for it. Do it. Quick history lesson. Prema- games was founded in one thousand nine hundred and there was a initial a run of five guides. They printed these five guys. They started with them to no game secrets Sega's game secrets turbo graphics game secrets so GameBoy game secrets and the official Lucasfilm games air combat strategies book. If you have any of those guys I would really like them into school. So not Lucas arts, even because film games air combat strategy at some point probably around that year. Someone figured out that Lucasfilm games. Stuck a cigar in his mouth and his like Lucas arts and then walked out. Let's check in with the listeners listeners. Maybe you can always reach us at the Email address. Game scoop is dot com. Just like Anton did Anton Anton love the show belated, congratulations on five hundred episodes. Thanks as the year comes to a close and you start thinking about game of the year nominees. Do you consider excess ability to the game for the gaming community in your decision last breath? The wild one game of the year, and it's a conflicts -clusive. This year's contenders include red Deborah sin to God of war under tale CRC and Spiderman some of these are conflict schools or aren't available yet under tail shit. I don't know. I didn't come out this year. It came out on switch. Yes. For this year should the game of the year. Also be available to the most amount of gamers. Yeah. It's not part of our consideration. It is we try really really hard to make sure the staff gets access stole. Sure. But that's a different. So just be like that's a super eel. It's more of a concern around three or under a lot of time pressure. Like a game of three award often ends up being a mix of the game that the most people got a chance to sort of experience and the highest quality game of the year. We try really really hard. We understand what our game of the year nominees are to make sure that everyone gets time and exposure to all the nominees. Yeah. But no not. But we're not blinking. Well, this game is an exclusive and this one isn't. So the crossbar form game has prior higher priority. Like, no, you know, there are I think about like using human psychology. You could totally have a better chance of getting a game of the year nomination. If you put your game in the summer and press like a bunch of copies because so many more people play it and have memories with. I don't know like you shouldn't game the system that way. But and nobody. He does. Yeah. Like, it's possible. That's I mean, that's the real truth is does game of the year. Always go to the absolute best game released that year. Like, we do our best to play and have champions for everything. I'm gonna give you an example. I haven't played a thrown breaker yet. I'm going to because I love card games and love which is like, you know, I'm gonna find a free weekend dive into it. But like maybe that is absolutely the best game out this year. But like having like Tom shouted about it and convinced enough people to try it yet. And I and I'm willing that example out of my hat like you could find some other game that like, you know, maybe just we haven't gotten, you know, in the hands of dozens of people yet to really realize how amazing it is. I you know, when I ran game of the year that used to keep you up at night the root of that is that it's it's it's a vote, and we do it democratically. And obviously that waits it towards things that people played more. There's nothing like secretive or corrupt about that. That's like if more people play a game. That's always happens with racing right? Everybody plays. Mario kart. So we have to be really careful about choosing a racing game, democratically biting games, people play games or have you? We do make a deliberate effort to ameliorate that by having a large gap period. From the time nominees announcing our windows are now from the staff has a responsibility, and we go out of our way to spend that time familiarizing ourselves with the games that like, you know, we're worried or maybe gonna get a little short change due a lack of access. Yeah. One day. I can tell you is we take it so seriously. Yeah discussions. Everybody has with each other are heated, but respectful, and we just want. We wanna make our list super we we are proud of our list. Yeah. We've already had multiple meetings without giving the and we haven't even gotten our new nomination square. So we get which is what's cool because I was in that meeting yesterday, and I've only been here. How long have each of you been here? Collectively like over ten. Yeah. We won't say, but I've only been here for two or three and just being in that meeting. I love it because to have the pinions be flying back and forth, and then to actually see sometimes what gets in there, or what people may have may not have known leading up to the, you know, the end of the years you have to do this. And that's cool to actually see all those games come forefront there to Anton, we get one thing. I hear a lot that I don't necessarily agree with. But it comes up year after year is that we should give more consideration. A console exclusives on the console lists. Like when the Xbox One game of the year list is full of multi-platform games. And that's just fill Sophocles. That's just not how I g and chooses to think about it. Like if the game appeared on that platform, it's eligible to win on that platform, and we don't wait it more give it any specially less consideration. If it's an exclusive or non exclusive on that platform. So sometimes I concede that it looks a little bit silly. When best XBox game is, you know, assassin's creed or call of duty or whatever instead of like, you know, halo or whatever. Our socio before whatever people associate with that platform. And so that one. I I don't actually even think that we're doing their own thing. There should make a change there. But that's a criticism that I at least understand the whole point of this is is well one of the points. It's actually multiple, but one for you listening is that you should be able to take sixty dollars and say, what should I spend this on? I wanna play something fun. And like that that's the only way to answer that question properly because if we did say, you know, in a year where there's not any good exclusives. If we had to choose an exclusive or way to other stuff, then we're not telling you to play this great cross platform game that you can play. It's the best game. That's available on that platform our platform awards. My personal game of the year remains God of war as of as of this moment agreed CJ you're in the boat. Absolutely the same rowboat with there you go with my boy only one boy, it's a great game. I mean, that's weird. You mentioned about like, you know, is an advantage of games coming out in a certain month. And to me, it's like released in March, April eight ro-, thank you. I mean, that's a long ways away. And I'm surprised. That I still feel like that. 'cause I expected something else. I haven't got chance play nothing else came out after that accept him. No. But that's what it was. There's a lot of space. They're but it's weird. Because now even still like, I know there's obviously read too much of the games and having a chance to deep dive into. But I still feel like when I get a chance you got a war is going to be giving the for me. Yeah. There is a real art to releasing game at the right time. And some of us just you know, you're gonna get like like when people picked February twenty twenty nineteen no one thought when all publishers picked that date. They didn't know as being a horrible day that's interest. So some of it's a guest and you get luckier. You don't so Justice him your picks as of this moment. One don't have really minus. We're voting today. You would abstain? Now, I just I I don't know what I would show. Decided death lay more red dead and assassin's creed. And I like those games a lot too. I'm very impressed with red dead. I'm not impressed enough with it for it to be in my purse overtake. I am liking tetris effect much more than expected. That's one that I'm super intrigues Samuel bringing this up in the meeting yesterday is we have to try to protect ourselves against sort of a recency bias sometimes to gain that like like tetris effect just came out. So we're all talking about it. But I'm really trying to cast myself in the head space. If that game was six months old would I still be like, would it still be top of mind for me and feel so impressive to me? And I think so, but you know, I'm human so I'm doing my best to adjust for that. But we're talking about the wind Spiderman came out. Yep. Hey, like, what is this game to feel like not only three months from now, but six months from now, and then what about three years like is this going to be the first of a series? It gets so much better. So quickly that you're like, you don't you to play the first one of the most recent one, I think it's reason why forgotten war. Yeah. I keep thinking if you look at it had to fight the stigma of games before it it had to also come out. There was no micro transactions or anything like that. If I think about games that I've been drawn into an experience that I haven't been pulled out of. I can't remember the last time. I felt that way about a game gotta wars. Yeah. Awesome. All right moving on. This is Sam from Missouri says longtime first time, I'm busy college student who doesn't have time for many games that being said winter break is a great time to pick up something new and play as much as possible. So I'm stuck between two big action. RPG's assesses crude odyssey or the Witcher three new. I haven't played AC game since black flag, which I loved. But I've heard odyssey is just an inferior version of the which three what should I buy? It's fun to hear those games compared. You like both games. Do you agree that assesses? Good honesty's. An inferior version of the wizardry. Yes. Okay. Okay. Only like a sliver. It's also like I don't really assess his I'll see much more of the moments today than which three is several years old. Now, it's gonna look better on your system. Have. Well, I think I can see this is an unpopular opinion. I'm only speaking for myself here, I was more taken with and drawn to assess screed than the Witcher I thought girls and his horse Roach were both sort of awkward to control. I thought the combat was sort of the same thing over and over and over again. And I you know, I like the rich are a lot. But for me, that's like an eight. Whereas like assassinated odyssey is so amazing. And I love Casandra so much, and I love the cultist system of the way all the game system sort of pile on top of each other and intermix with each other. And so I like odyssey more. Yeah. Odyssey's probably my second favorite game of the year. As of right now, my pitch for the Witcher is that if you don't want to do all the questing, and I've said this before you can just go hunt monsters monsters, look, really, cool, and they're scary and fun, and it just so cool to figure out how to beat them, and you you wanna level up. So you can explore and find more just big monsters, and it's not like technical. And monster hundred it's just like fun LD the monster hunter, very excellent in that game. Yeah. And then I also like the characters I think I like there's like a family dynamic thing, which I won't go into too much. But Siri is is another Witcher in the game. That's kind of adopting daughter and the game really follows her plotline, and I'm reading the books right now as I said, they're very rocky quality wise, but she's cool. She's a really fun character to follow in that in that game. And I like that about it a lot CJ you went away on this a little bit in a weird spot because I've played both them, but not beating them. So I'm terrible for getting into these games and not being able to finish them because they always get overwhelmed with other games. I ended up getting people. It's weird. Because I mean, both those games. I know are amazing. And I mean, yeah. Sassen ozzy. I got a chance to dive into do do love, you know, the naval stuff and even exploring. Yeah. The fact that you can go both cared. You know, pick a character that you want. I don't know if I'm gonna get a chance to beat that again with red dead being out now. So it's like, I don't know. I always get backlogged. And it's terrible because it will be going back to screen. Yeah. A lot of people really really love it. Yeah. So what what we're saying is breath, the wild and destiny, that's right tetris. And now God war just a joke. I didn't bring up the wild antagonize. Well speaking, we can't talk about the wild. This is Tom and Isla. Oh, hey, Tom. I'm a recent switch adopter as my time. For peace for gaming is limited so far I've played through mariachi dead cells. Mario Kart immoral plus rabbits, so the wild on with the holiday season on the horizon. What games do you think should go on the gift list of hokum on it? He says no book on he says, I have Zelda and smash on my radar. Yeah. What it's just weird. Because this like, yeah. D- don't have anyone who say you get a switch. What's the one game? You should get breath of the world is breath, awhile young. But he'll he says an all caps. No, Pokemon Novum. That's very understand. Yep. It's funny. So obviously, we would recommend breath awhile premier game on the console one of the absolute landmark games for industry probably of all time. Yeah. For sure Nuff said, some others. I got I got one. Okay. What's your? I mean, you maybe I've seen us from you eleven oh, you're always going to say mega man legacy collection too. But sure, yeah. Man eleven I mean, it's funny, salmon, and I had this conversation. It's like when you look at kind of the history of Mario. And how great those games got even when you look at like, Mario three versus Mario world. And all that stuff. Mega man eleven is a good game. I wish it would have done. Maybe something a little bit more than the standard is the bosses take him out. Yeah. We were saying I said this in my view, it's not the jump. Yeah. At a news. Elliot's compared to their originals Elda or the new Mario's are compared to the regional. Mario it's still like a basically sixteen bit. It's the same thing. And it's weird because I was thinking about that. It's like what else would you want them to do an apartment thinking? Wouldn't it be cool? We went all the way back and make men eleven and played some levels from mega man like one too. Two or three that were almost remastered and you had those same agree. I Megan man remix. It would be cool. Mix nintendo. Yeah. Games are. So they were really good. Did we never did SNES room? And oh, yeah. We all I was the happiest a new thing tend to to remix. Yeah. Did so good. What if they did another any s classic? But it had remixed stuffing. It'd be cool. We run out. For sure that's Tom Nyla has played dead cells. So I he's open to retro style games. I would recommend bloodstained curse of the moon. I would recommend I played a lot of hollow night on my it's on other platforms. Switch, you know, really Ted sales. Holland. There's a third that makes the trifecta. It's the ninja Guidon one where there's a message messenger. Oh, yes. I haven't played that yet into messengers. Good. I would you know, he just didn't mention I think split into should be in the mix. There is just too interesting. Switch only experience if it, you know, if you're not familiar with it, look it up. See if it's your thing and two games. They got tens that are not breath while are under tail and Celeste, and then you know, tens less. He mentioned that smashes on his radar. But that's a you know, that's the Pamirs which game of the year for sure. Yeah. And I think it's probably gonna have a pretty decent, you know, single player experience sort of wind way through and then play with buds when you get back to say college student, right? Yeah. He's a costume. Yeah. When you get back to. College. That'll be a good game to have in your library. Yup. Sure. Marketing Injia stealthy ninja game gave that a really high score originally didn't still get I didn't review Ryan McCaffrey him into the breach. Rogue like turn based strategy game, which I love didn't resonate with Justin to represent the full spectrum of opinions here. But it's one of my games of the year. That's probably ten ten Daime game for me. Nice. But didn't didn't really say? Well with just a Dan are reviews editor says that's the game. He goes back to play the most. Yeah, that's cool. But a lot of many many hours that game this year inside is village, which fell up to limbo ultra spooky two d platformer with lots of really really cool ideas and surprises all the steam worlds are on switch Mance team. Due to an heist. Switch just play steel dig too. They're all good Diablo three is now in switch. Right. It's very good. I'm just trying to like there's just lots of good stuff. Darkest dungeon octopus traveler, and captain toad did did Kirby on switch come out this year. Was that a twenty team game? I don't know if it came out. I mean that game Canada. Yeah. It's like a smash brothers esque version of Kirby where you're playing four at a time, and you can kind of like to do puzzles and stuff how all right how it's just so bizarre. Like, that's you know, not that he's up there with Mario and Zelda. But like Kirby game came out this year like it came out. No one talked about it. No one cared. Now. It's in the rear view mirror. NBC cared. Yeah. Old school games are coming as well. To isn't a list of like games that are supposed to be coming Schule any s games that are gonna get online version. Mighty Jack might've jackets on there now with twin be and ice hockey was on a great list. Oh, it's all key. Could champion came out this week champ? Oh, man. I love. Such a turn. It's. It's really good. It's just don't pay money for this and intend to publish game. If they didn't develop they publish it at least on the eighty absolutely development. They yeah. It's a blackbox game. It's like the first games. Just garbage. Love it. I in my mind, I think of it like renegade, which was the precursor green one screen, and they move left and right river city. Ransom. I think is on there as well too. And that and super dodgeball, which I really Sables tutors, and it's little child riverside wind jammers on switch windows service. No, no about unrelated to that. You got me at least announced for if it hasn't come out James on the switch that was really good. This is Christian from London UK last week. You're listening games. Have police representation. Listen to bunch of our favorite police base games. CJ was favorite police base game? Narc we talked about no question, I'm Canadian. So I was thinking Mounties, and it was like not yet represented that I can think of in history. But narc for sure I mean, even just thinking about playing it in the arcade a lot at it. It's quite honestly now that I think about it. It's a very are rated type game playing at my age at the time. So the narc see plays. They're like, all right. There's a slim and there's a bunch of junkies. They're yeah. We're gonna roll up shit. Our convertible jump out of it. And just mow them all down building machine-gun. Yeah. A needle. Let's go. That's how we're gonna clean up the street and everything that you're collecting aren't you collecting, basically like, yeah, you're picking up drugs, more or. Yeah. It's like, but it was amazing. There's no games. He's in them. I'm trying to think of one, and I don't think like the represented in any way in any game. He made jokes about. Spark as well. I think is done it. But I don't think there's been one that, you know, painted the maybe is in a in a positive favorite of lunch. They deserve. I'm not. I'm not trying to reshape that things Christian things. We left we missed a big one. He says I have three words for streets of rage. Are you a cop street? So you're the mayor in. Thanks. Okay. We'll recite from the instruction manual streets. Here. It is this is the synopsis of streets of rage turmoil in the streets. Share? What was once a happy peaceful productive city full of life inactivity has fallen into the hands of a secret criminal syndicate the leader of the syndicate has managed to keep his identity. A secret the organization soon absorbed, the city government anyone can be half the price is right. They even have the metropolitan police force in their back pocket looting random violence and destruction are rampant known as safe walking the streets day or night as the cast continued at full strength three young police officers tried to establish a special attack unit. They were repeatedly refused by their supervisors attack. Most of whom had either been bought by the organization or to afraid to make a stand one day when they could no longer stand by and watch their city being demolished. They quit the force. Every eighties movie ever, Adam Hunter and blaze. Decided to forego their careers in legal on forcement and put their lives on the line there without weapons but each possesses great hand to hand combat abilities, take them into the heart of the city and battle the most dangerous wave of bad dudes and chicks ever assembled make the city a place where people no longer have to walk the streets of rage. So former police officer game not actual police game. That's dope ass idea. That's great. So now, I have so many questions. Bad dudes. Also, it says bad dudes and chicks. Why didn't they do ever do bad chicks? Yeah. Dudes. They just have the phrase. Dues in chicks. Yeah. I play the ginger swaps. Bad dudes. And then as a little bonus Sam, I wanna point in the back of the manual. There's a score book cools, and there's a place for you to write your name your score and then success circle. Yes. Or no. Parents what Iran did you have six game? No success. If you beat it is that. Says like success or something like that? He knew the internet was coming, and you're eventually going to share it somebody if you're in a house with twenty other people. Well, okay, there's like a spot for fifteen names here. I got another really good police game that I know I'm wondering if somebody can mention it's very conic that era can you era? Yeah. Well, yeah. Like within like Arkan? Yeah. Exactly. Is it a Genesis game? ABC's? Lana question. It's not twenty questions. I won't take long. But no, it was super popular. It's a movie franchise. I was wondering if you goes mentioned. No, it's been a good one. It's a movie franchise where there's cops in it. And you got a coach busters lethal weapon. He's the best cop ever because robocup their Revo cap. That's the one. Yeah. For the movie poster of cheese RoboCop? That's your technically, correct. Which is the best round of. All right. We'll more question before we get to twenty questions just in Saint Louis. Okay. Got it. Not just since laureate thought it was me grim fandango remastered just showed up on the switch shop out of nowhere. It is fifteen dollars. Same game on PlayStation store is two dollars and twenty four cents most brick and mortar stores have priced mash guarantees do. You think we'll ever see something similar in the digital storefronts for video games? How well it's on sale on the PlayStation store to be fair. And then after on sales at the same time. Sure, let's be clear that it's not just always always know, two bucks. Nope. They won't price-match because it's not, you know, it's the game on a different platform. It's it's kind of like the same problem. We were talking about the Sessa -bility. It's apples to oranges like like, you won't see WalMart price. Mets. The XBox version of a game. If the PS four versions on sale on Amazon, they'll price match the. The. They'll price the exact skew. And they'll have a bunch of difference cues for that reason. But it's weird half the these games, I feel if you look for them at the right time, they'll either be free. Unlike PS plus Xbox One game pass or something later on. But it is true. You know, I sort of dodged the point here, which is some like the shop does not have great sales PS has very good sales and XBox occasionally has really great sales. Yeah. But Nintendo is there are steep discounts on the shop too. But just speaking at a high level, it's not the best digital platform for picking up games that are on the super cheap. We were talking about that on southern destiny show that I'm on. It's amazing Sean was mentioning it. How how many times have you bought Nintendo games for a crazy astronomical price? And then you've bought it again on the next platform and the next platform what it means to be an fan. That's exactly what it is. And very rarely does that one or champion marchers. Just getting a scoop from Andrew Goldfarb. Our new sound. We've just learned that Sony is not going to eat three twenty nineteen what? Have they said why okay. Big long statement about how the industry is evolving that easy. We were breaking news on games. Anyway, back to St. supreme. I mean us they didn't have they didn't have a huge line this year. And it was even odd that they downscaled e three in this current year that is raise what they did eat through this year. Yeah. It's interesting to see if I party bow the third parties, how their reasons bow out of eating just gonna be like. Just going to be a stretch out. Booth into just does their Drexel. Each other base. Yes, I guess that means Sony's not even gonna have a boo this year because Microsoft took their booth off the show floor. Yeah. Very early to. And it's like are. They pulling out of just maybe announcement press conference thing and going to be on the show kept their booth space but day Kate it to mixer. It was just extra stuff was the show floor. And when did he three kind of take a hiatus there? It was a couple years when it was like it's been ten years a while ago. I think it was two thousand seven that they like all the way down Santa a year. Yeah. Here. Yeah. It was weird year lots of walking around Santa Monica. I got super lost in downtown Santa Monica. It was super spooky someone's going down. Well, I guess we'll figure out some more details, but breaking news. That's a scoop Jim there. It is. Right. And you're come in here and tell us that wasn't so bad though, by the time people see this episode that news is going to be shooed as they're going to get to enjoy us hearing the news time. That's really neat scoop moment, a real gem. What we talking about price matching. And how why doesn't happen in games? But I think it's time to move on. Okay. Just play the twenty questions. This week suggesting comes from Zuber 'em Sube and let the questioning location does your character. Can you hear with your ears? Can you hear your character speak in this game? I would think so. But I'll give you that one for free since I'm not a hundred percent. Sure. Okay. I would I would assume so. Okay. Could this game have been at one of the three major party press conferences that he three? Yes. So the last time I want to ask a hat question. I don't know. It's officially retired. You're welcome. Hey, you're on man. I. Is it a pre nineties era game? No. That sort of contradict SAM's. I dies. I apologize. This game. Is this game developed by first party console manufacturer? In around about way. Yes. See three a- apologize. I don't know. I don't know what that means. You think soft? Yes, it's not a game. I know. But I was just thinking what manufacturing hint here and it star FOX two. Never happened. A good one. Is is this game made in Japan developed in Japan? Yes is is this game in. Oh, that's good. I threw a last question roundabout way. Same primarily associated with Nintendo. Yes. Okay. It's five. All right. Bye. Parroting back in a roundabout. So it some game that's in the Nintendo sphere. That's not like just like, it's probably a Capcom Zelda game or something like that. So you're thinking published by Nintendo we associate with intendo, but it could be made by game freak Namco. So. Likes getting the Pokemon company. Bought the console specific and say was it for the we, you know. This game related is Pokemon game. No. Does this game multi-player? Yes. If find multi actually, yes, it does. Eight questions. Why chick my no? I'm gonna let you check the note. I made it could be battalion wards game cube. Answer's yes. Multiplayer firms. Well, it's not smash right? We would not have to check the notes on that one not smash not Super Mario sixty four. So it's not on we, you know, I'm we Pokemon game. It's not poke among game. But it's got multiplayer could be Zelda four swords. That he wouldn't have to check his notes. Does it have multiple? I gotta figure on us. Skip for now was developed. It was developed in Japan is part of a disease game have a sequel. That's a good question. This game. Does not have a sequel. Oh, okay. So it's like part of a franchise. But it's just this one doesn't have a sequel could be dogs. Cute one but intimate that one way that I take Damon's answer is that this game is a sequel, but didn't have it's part of fans. But it was maybe the last one. Yeah, that'd be cool. Does the game have animals in it? That's good one. But we're all, but everyone I we animals CJ. That's the question. I mean. Yeah. Depends on these. I don't know if this game has animals, really not. Really? Well, are they animals are they Nintendo what's multi player? We don't even have era. You know, we we know it's not we know. It's not what you you know, it's not pretty ninety after ninety six is this game. Was this game released after two thousand ten January first and ten yes. That's ten to help. Yeah. Man means it's pretty new means. It's pro might be switch game. Or or portable game is this on switch. No. I guess it's the three D S can probably three s gamer DS game. Player about make for three D S is a puzzle game. No. Is the say it could be a mobile game. Oh. Is this on the on the DS family DS or three s consul? That's not. Yes. Or no question is this on the three s consul? Is it on can't help you hear dead is this game on either the DS or three D S? Yes. Okay. No, Mario run. No a couple of things there. And also eliminates I don't know really late GameCube game. Yeah. Would have been to lettuce. I think I gotta get one that might help. Yeah. What do you? Has the game ever been ported to other consoles? No. Does this use mainly controls? Mainly. Could be hotel dusk. Yeah. I was thinking brain damage, but it's not a puzzle game. It's early to. I don't know. I can't answer that one. I don't know what the all shakes. I don't know the exact ratio scribble knots again. Get scribble nuts. Yeah. Not a puzzle game. Has multiplayer Damon had to look it up. It's it's developed by intendo went around about way. Does this have a character that wasn't smashed brothers? That's really federation force fifteen. That was a really good question who. Yeah. Character that was in smash I guess in my head. I'm like that's going to help. Exactly. That's the problem. I was trying to ask that one the last time that doesn't narrow down. No, it's good. I mean, there's a lot. Still probably pretty Nintendo game. And now, we can say is part of the mushroom kingdom is a part of metro right as partisan kitty, Chris and some of those other things because there was Zelda. The bow game was on we. But there was another spin off on the three s right? I mean, there's phantom hourglass and stuff. There is a like Arcadi one like that. I mean, there was there's Jairo warriors. There's tank the warriors was but that came out on switch. It also came out on like, yeah. Yeah. Remind house excited for a sec. Yeah. I don't have another smash. Three DS game with multiplayer Mario golf on with smash like it could be smash. But it could be like it could be my is this a golf is this a is this a sports game. No. How would I really would have liked the Mario universe question? Yes. I can saw ask it not really what does that leave us on three? Yes. Though to be fair. I would think it I think it's something. That's weirdly multi-player like you were mentioning Zelda and metro. Yeah. Do we should we say do we mentioned the game already? Go for it. We mentioned this game already. Yes. Mentioned it's probably metric federation that was. Yeah. What else are you mentioned? There's two or three that we there's no way to know. Dan, let us know actually worst. They haven't been taping. Any we're just sitting is this game of people hated. No, really, it's all the force Damon, delete. Claire could be clear. Everybody hated metro federation force. I know that. All right. I'm just I'm just. Just clarify. I know. Metro related quite over federation. It's the it's the Hiroo warriors warriors because they wanted a what I was thinking of the the most game the the the game where you fight the hordes of enemies, the four swords e one well that was all the four swords and that was on that was too early. No, there's a new version of that that just came out of me. I guess we haven't mentioned with all the. Yeah. With all the characters for. Oh. I mean, we talking about there is Zelda game that came out last year. Yes. It's like four swords and it takes four people. What? Yeah. And you saw puzzles that three and then it came out. I played the whole thing. What where was clearly we haven't mentioned it yet. I don't know. What that is. If we mentioned it. So why can't be horrors sorry because I think this was no ports. I don't know what gave me guess we're talking about all show to you after the. So if we already mentioned this dang game, just smash brothers know Damon took a long time to look at the sheet of paper multiplayer game for sure that's confusing me. Maybe he just didn't know and also smash smash smash smash as a new sequel mentioned a lot of three. Yes games. We mentioned a couple now I brain is going. Once. Stupid. I mean, we have this stupid. This is how many we have one more question. It was a fighting game. Yeah. I think that that could eliminate as well too. We didn't ask thought we'll get it's not a sports not smash. Is it a fighting game? No. Still why like I had to look up a fighting game would definitely be multiplayer. Yeah. All right. But I mean that was online multiplayer. That's where you the the caveats there. Yeah. All right. It's not metro prime federation force. I don't know what they'll the a new four swords a game came out the new the DS or thirty s game that you guys have already mentioned is. Dementia. Wait, we have one more question. Was it mentioned on the show or mentioned in twenty questions which way, did you take that out of the question is what did we already mention this game? Just in our questions. And I think we did. Because you've mentioned it during twenty questions. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Well, then what the hell is. It is it. Yeah. What's the name of that of Zelda game? I don't know you play that you said you played the high. I did I don't remember the name of two. That means we didn't mention the name game is a dream between you two. Yeah. We mentioned and I yeah. Yeah. Do it. Because I don't know if that can we well is it that game. So he gives us. That's that's my guess is your guess is a news four swords game. Yeah. No. It's not that. What is it? C J mentioned this game twice. Hurting me and more. It is kid isthmus. Instead it as like is it a kicker as one because we mentioned metro does like okay lease for thirty s in two thousand twelve that came head multiplayer it had some sort of multiplayer mode in it's so that's a part that messed me up because I was not thinking kickers had a multiplayer component. That question is the question now, especially if I have to look it up, then you know, that it's just tack Donald player. The most. Yeah. I'm trying to think of what it would have been my streak has gone awry force heroes name. I don't know what that is. Where was I would like office? And it was last year. It was three is like you play three people. And you could go round is very puzzle. Basic. Are from a mere universe. Yeah. For sure that was a great game. I mean, I it's true. They're not paying a lot of attention to like three D S. Maybe I just saw some thirty s thing coming out and ignored. It knows really good. I don't remember hearing about that game. I don't remember seeing it on. Okay. We we can mess with that just in the whole. Hold on. What's that? Trifold heroes. Twenty fifteen. Got a circle it's excess. No score twenty. Sam success. No, no sang it. Kid uprising was developed by project Sora, which is no longer in business. And was Nintendo had seventy five percent ownership of it. How did that do? It was actually spun up by Satory WADA's, a sort of separate Bella per that was mostly owned by intendo. What's his name? Right. It was the smash director. I think. Yes soccer. I yes. And satori Watterson mentioned it twice. He's say Kidder twice in. Did. You think that's what it was? No. I didn't because I wasn't sure it had multiplayer. So multiplayer was hung up. Multiplayer thing. Exactly. Brings us to our final. Question was suggested by zip in what forgotten franchise shouldn't intend to resurrect next kick. Not a kick. Work out. Well for me, the answer is obvious punch out where is punch out zero zero urban. Three irvine. But I did love the for me ninja guiding intendo fan. I know. Okay. Talked to Tecmo next week, right? And ask about what XBox franchise resurrecting CJ. Tell us Nintendo on changing my vote. I'm changing mine to Tuti metro. Okay. Well, the guy gave metro to. Count. No, no, no. It was full of see I'm racking, my brain all ninety games Capcom ultra I s so many old. I wanted to punch out and wrecking crew excite bike. Excite by humanity trials feels a little to excite games on the we-. Yeah. Someone suggested excite Botts for twenty questions twice this week. But I do I would have gotten it you think so. What I would have mentioned on the show. All right. That is all the scoops. We have this. We gotta get out side and figure out what the deal is this Sony, not being an e three half. We're gonna get to the bottom of that scoop. Remember, you can always reach us at the address games. You come. Thank you just think Sam CJ. My name is Damon aging. Sizing.

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You've Got Kale

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You've Got Kale

"Hey guys episode of the read is being brought to you by Barefoot Hard Seltzer Survivor. Refreshing hard saucer made with real wine. Perfect for a small summer barbecue in your backyard solo or just getting smashed on a Thursday afternoon in front of whatever you stream you can find barefoot hearts also at your local retailer or you can get it delivered to your door from drizzly dot com such barefoot Heart Seltzer use. Promo Code Barefoot Hard Seltzer all one word for five dollars off your first order as Barefoot Heart. Salzer your summer dream I can. Let's move on. Hey y'all this episode is also brought to you by royal oils. One of the most desired here goes for a lot of us is to grow healthy hair. But in order to do that you have to start with a healthy SCALP. And that's where the royal oils collection by head and shoulders comes in. It works to promote a healthier scalp and healthier hair in just three weeks royal oils makes it easy to keep the scout moisture is healthy. I literally I kid. You not just is something to Moscow because it was screaming. Some help royle's is just great. It gets me right on together and their collection has products for pre wash wash day and every day care to restore the balance to your scalp. I love the line so much they have everything you need to keep your hair and scalp healthy at home so go ahead and check them out. You can pick up all of the products in the royal oils collection at Walmart stores and Walmart Dot Com. All right let's start the show. Well all right welcome back Nigga inch friends to another episode of the PODCAST. I and one of your hosts Waldo Geraldo Faldo man and I am the other host. I'm Ashley Banks. This is three. This is three still a quarantining and things of that nature having completely lost it yet or maybe I do just forgot. I don't know I think I'm I'm starting to adjust at think I'm not gonNA work on it. That doesn't stop the train from running and this week we're going to keep him pushing with some black excellence and I'm going to give it over to a daddy daughter couple Anton and JJ. This is a story that I read on black enterprise as well as teen vogue now. Anton Anton father's a two girls who is this. Oh Antoine Pat and anyway this father was locked up for a few years in New York and Basically while incarcerated he was taking college courses and looked up how to. Code taught himself how to Code because at the time social media and tech and all that stuff was like keyword are cured so considering that he had children to take care of he decided to figure out what that was all about hoping to have An opportunity to really take care of his family when he got back out and when he did. He realized that many businesses find success when they're providing resolutions resolution problems. That aren't there already. One that he was experiencing is one many Incarcerated people and families of incarcerated people Deal with which is the trouble of communicating with your loved ones. He was having trouble his daughter. Jj was having trouble like getting letters out to her. Dad Pictures Out to her dad. Sometimes it would come back because like he said you never know. Weizer in prisons will Basically flag like your kid could throw a peace sign in a picture. And there may be like flagged for gang related blank blank blank and so that plus the cost of all of these things is just trouble for some for folk and so this dad and daughter created a foundation as well as map called photo patch and first of all sizes may for learning how to code teaching other people locked up how to code coming out. Cody himself trying to build websites and stuff like that. Teaching daughter showed interest in it. How to code as well and in building this photo pap that basically helps young kids families People who have loved ones that are in jail or prison. Send photos letters and things like that without the cost of having to you know. Mail these things out and possibly even get them to who you're sending them to. They also had the goal to teach two thousand twenty people how to Code Within Twenty. Twenty are twenty twenty. And that's what they're doing. Teach all kinds of this clip of our whole classroom. Full Young Black folks kids in all learning how to code and I think that's a really amazing thing to do to just kind of get us rooted in these different things and helps for helping us to find interesting stuff because he from what I read also when he saw a computer science course. One of the college courses in prison he thought. Oh that's just for geniuses like that's not something me right and changed his tune later on so it's just something that's really dope and I think that it's cool to expose the people whether it's your family or just people in your community to that sort of thing and give the opportunity for internships and jobs and of the dope stuff so You'd like I said the mailing of letters photos and stuff like that that you put into photo. Patch is not It doesn't cost anything for the so. They really find everything through donations. So you can go to Pash DOT ORG so learn more about what it is that these folks are doing and donate if you want to. And you know Stan. For All of the good that they're doing and this nation and the world yeah. I googled around and found the website. And there's last two pictures of him in his daughter and little matching outfits with a computers teacher so cute and such a worthy cause like. He said he was intimidated. I it's a whole lot of kids who might be really good at coding and Nerd. Shit who just never saw themselves in a position to do something like that so right. Oh guess. We're actually like when you think about the fact that coating is like when you just look at a having no real knowledge understanding obey it basically looks like some alien ship down on shared. It's intimidating just to look at what was think about so. Yeah I thought it is really is go and check them out and support. She can now. Let's move on to high tops. How I met your bottom that one. Oh I can't keep up with three hundred sixty five of these fucking things up doesn't matter we hear So what do we got going on? Cobbler Stings Lady. Gaga is finally apparently about to drop her sixth studio album. Well after a list of leaks in a drama and all kinds of foolishness chromatic has apparently supposed to come out sometime. This weekend's I just saw on youtube homepage some news long and BDO. She has outwith area. Honest leaves grind. And the album's posted also. This is the same album that she said she was. GonNa Call Dale. What those. Yeah yeah delays leaks. Corona virus came in target had leaked. The track listing all kinds of drama leading up to her next new weird collection of music The video and song rain on me featuring are on the ground days. What just recently dropped so it. Sounds like what you would assume with sound like I think like I feel like your first guest is probably close on the money. Very much. Something that White Jay's would probably blasted an only fans parties definitely what I was thinking I'm not a huge fan of it. The videos interesting kind of looks like it was like inspired by K pop an power rangers and the Fan Mail era of TLC. And put it up and I definitely see the fan mail late from the very fucking Ginkgo Very Lisa in Chile Two thousand Any fine whatever. Ariana grandes dancing in the video with some butterfly wings on because she refuses to not look like a six zero. And I just feel like whenever this came out you know the the gays their pupils dilated and they had to plug it into their veins. I know that this is probably just adding to the stress of not being able to go to Brunches and Sarka parties for the white gays But other than that. I read on vulture that this is an album. That's supposed to be a dance. A DANCE ALBUM FROM ANOTHER WORLD. Okay or some shit like that like another planet. I don't know you know they. She does this whole weird shit where it's like. Oh I'm actually like an alien t-bone steak and here's my song about global warming array and there's lots of spectacle and she's full out strange and so I I guess good luck. I don't feel like every huge pop star has to have a collaboration like they don't have to. Yeah this to meet is Kinda felt like. Let's do assange together because it would absolutely make the gates explode and I'm sure that it delivered in that sense but other than that. I'm just Kinda like all right. I hope to like the album. The last full lady Gaga Album. I think like the famous. That was our set. Even the was actually an album that was during that time. All these pop stars were releasing albums with like six new songs and calling it something else but either way buffet monster slapped and I don't know if I fully appreciate it. A full body of Lady Gaga Works. Since maybe I should revisit some things because sometimes I enjoy albums. In retrospect but everything since then is just kind of been for me like I don't know maybe grew out of that weird avant-garde wearing a beehive on your head shit that she did when she first came out. 'cause now everybody does it. So yeah the Weirdo. Light bid thing is like not as much of a not as much of a dry as it used to be. I promised that Lady Gaga has one. I don't remember what song or video it is. But in the video she is playing a mermaid in a row by and a man. I think like she played like three different roles besides the regular white Caucasian woman. She is and so I'm gonNA listen to just because fancy lady Gaga on her great days but if it's just a full allow dance album like if I'm going to be getting a whole bunch of peak molly ecstasy shrooms music than I'm just GonNa stay out and that's honestly what I was thinking because as I've just been googling a little bit. I'm seeing a lot of references to I want everybody today and send electronic music which once you say those two things. I'm automatically like all right. This project is probably not for me is probably not but I what you said earlier about this kind of making the gays even more anxious for the club or a House party or basement party or like the only fans party anything. I think. It's is definitely. Don't contribute to that and whether it's starting to warm up to so Nigga Zombie. China have poppers parties on ZOOM WITH THIS ALBUM. Plan in the background and best of luck. Good luck best of luck the house but I don't think this one is for me. The fame monster was a reissue of her first album. So I don't even think of the second album I think is just like an AP so yeah. I know how any of that Shit was working at the time. But yeah it's probably closer to the EP side of things. But that was the last time out like Yes I stay on this. I just love what you're giving so. Yeah I don't know if it's like a whole thing where we've just sort of Stopped being moved by the whole weird spectacle of things that she does because everyone has done it. Or if I'm getting older and I don't give a fuck about a lot of the sounds. Here's another thing like I'm just realizing that Ways that I felt about certain corners of entertainment and John is of music so that I paid it now but I don't feel as moved as I used to. So it's not. I'm not sure if it's like a me thing of some interesting. It's a mixture of both of those things found. Just getting older possibly is yeah. It probably is both. I think her approach to music has changed. Her sound. Has Evolved a bit which you know is well within her rights to do and also. I'm sure we're not the same people we were whenever born this way. Not Sway whenever a the fame came out so. I think it's probably wish the best for Gaga but I don't I don't care well hot off of the announcement that futures laid Asaba News Yet. Another number one for him. He's been Throwing a temper tantrum over having yet another child out of wedlock and calling this latest child's mother a late not temper tantrum. He threw on the Internet. And I was really puzzled. You mad are like she ordered a sperm off the Internet. I don't get you fucked it up. Lexi broke into your house while you were sleeping. I was like that's why right like she wants some ugly bitch you the prize like you. Just no accountability for your actions here now just all right so future reportedly and allegedly has been confirms as the father of Elisa Raines. One year old daughter This is one of the ladies that he had been going back and forth with on social media about is are is are not happy and lot rap. Nigga like you know twenty to thirty characters that don't make no damn science on twitter. But anyway like I said. Allegedly he is. The father of this child and Elisa is not only. I'm sure gleeful over that indication. But she's also assuming that s reliable and slanderous conman after future allegedly painted her out to be nothing but a sack chasing skis are for the one thousand nine hundred ninety eight of us in the audience. Yeah tonight there. We go so then. He's weeded some dumb shit about this girl. Being ugly he find those things which is like first of all no the fuck. She's not. This girl is far from ugly. Furthermore if she's ugly Nigga God bless all the mirrors and glasses got down. A LITTLE. Bit of reality goes a long way he said on twitter. I can't speak on. This isn't that he said I can't speak the truth. I'm a logoff you're onto the Internet. Tc's had to keep the business off the Internet. And I believe that this was after like the truth. Set Us all free but on twitter he said late and people people make lies up to make yourself feel good. Leave them ugly girls alone. Don't get high and treat a ugly girl. Pretty huge mistake be an imaginary relationships. I told my dog learn from you. I don't know why this is like like a ghetto. Nigga DR SEUSS. You Act just like you caught me slipping. Okay so wha- you was really really lucky. Relax crying over shoe money when you could have just asked for relaxed pave. Pay The money. Just make sure supply. Cash check money order. Give this woman her fucking money. You leave arrest a bus alone you fuck girl because you wanted to. You decided clearly not use protection or whatever the fuck she pregnant you got another baby take care of the Nigga. This is the game that we you know. We exist in all of us. This is called reality. You make a baby. China have to pay for right. So what happens in future has like eight kids so it's not like he don't know how this and half of them are like under two so it's not like he does. You're right. You're a veteran at this loose dig Negoti. It shouldn't even be at this point. You should just be writing a guide for everybody else on just like the fastest way to get child support money out of the House. The best lawyers whatever it is takes the rest of this. You don't seem like it makes you know any good sense. I'm sure that the The real issue here is that as the president of the Secret Society Illuminate Futures Status is probably in clear jeopardy at this point. I'll really and I'm sure that Chris Brown and offset smell blood in the water. And they're coming for that position to run all of these ain't Shit Nigga. Is You know in the direction that the group sees fit and so futures probably just awesome mafia movie shit freaking out because the niggers are coming for his spot as top fuck boy in charge because yeah I mean. At least Chris an offset are good fathers from what we know anyway like. At least they have going for him. Future his children are scattered across the forty eight contiguous states and he didn't even want to claim them last two or three Solo. I feel like there's a certain level of SCUMBAG. Nigga who future will always be daddy just because they can relate with the ancient myths bad windows future. GonNa say I really need to stop fucking all these girls especially raw? Maybe I need to start strapping up all the time. Maybe I need to find one young lady and build a relationship with her and get to know her and then maybe not get are pregnant. You know there are cords within you that you can cut so that this doesn't happen anymore and make a little bit of responsibility. Goes a long fuck in way and I don't care what Laurie Harvey talking about Nigger. It could be finished now like Yakking dot or whatever the fuck did you do in the future. You can go ahead and just SNIP SNIP. And you don't have to worry about you know cash now for any other party promoters or whatever the fuck since that's on it you seem to know how to do in the world of relationships and sex and Def we saw broke up can't even if he was still together. I don't know you probably right. What do I do besides play animal crossing that? That girl went incorporating condo some downward. But Bob hope who knows because is still sneaking out fuck so maybe better the dickey now than the then addictive time as you know he out there fucking multiple girls. A little pandemic is not going to slow them down. He's probably got his own APP where he just opens it up and no has one of them sent over to the house or something. I don't know on the bright side of the illuminated news though one quaver has gotten his high school diploma that That was joyful. That was so sweet so I read that he had actually been involved with his high school. Like you know as successful nigger doing community things and giving back when he wasn't considered on the same night since he technically was dropout and so the principal school was his teacher back in the day. Said Hey why don't you get your damn you go forward and do it? And so that's what he decided to do. He also said on young money. Radio de Wayne was one of Lohan was an inspiration. I guess for him because he know Wayne my back to school after being incredibly successful. I don't remember if it was his. I think it was an older woman. In Wayne's live on if there was a mom or grandma Auntie or somebody I radi sure he was like you know as many people can say there was a strong black woman in my life he said Hey nigger why you that's all. I decided zoo. Megan Grandma's will all. I mean. Your grandma will be in like a cashmere robe and on the that you bought her and still be like you know. It's never too late to go back to school. And then catch our education union saying because you might need that you never know when it comes in handy and that will show people the value that you take seriously. And that you know that you have grandma. Why did we we all get the same fucking speech? We're rich. I pinned the game like I don't have to do that would be. I say she said okay. You happy is right. I don't at blackboard afterwards. Glad because beyond the schooling things. 'cause I'LL BE HONEST. It's never too late to go like all of them. Say on the phone since you said something did. Did she finished? You know the church bag zoom and so you could zoom me on the matlock you can go me. Zoom me right home. It'd be Osei on. Can we do it together? We Toda bless house. Grandma yes I thought that this was horrible. I love these pictures of him in his cap and gown instagram. For some reason I he looks so happy. Have no explanation but for some reason this to me looks like what Gerald from. Hey Arnold grew to be. I don't know why do as the as soon as you said I was just like. Oh Hey Arnold the college years this is It sounds like he's even considering going to a college next shot. A Burke Burke Mar high school in Georgia lilburn charger to be exact chats a quaver on principle Williams and everybody over there you classic twenty twenty kids can say that you graduated alongside Caveau and he can say that he is a Grad and Bucci. Oh right none of that. Nobody give good job. Quavo is that is not an easy thing to do. Actually only saw one person beings think about it like taking screen shots talking about this that and I was wondering what was so fucking sad but I guess they were making fun of him because He's twenty eight twenty nine and just now finishing his high school diploma. But you know niggers. Don't do that right now. Is still a fucking achievement. He went to school when he didn't act to and learn something and might even continue his education. Like you can't just be happy for a black man learning something. God Damn some of find anything to hate on but this is beautiful. News go to school. Let Cardi help you go to. Uta Online and GonNa get that degree More White News. This Week Lana Del. Rey was caught up in nonsense after see posted her feelings. Take on the Gran now. Has One point seven million legs? I'm not GonNa read this whole ass novel but I will just go over the header here. Well that's already posted question for the culture natural which one flat question for the closer now. That does Arianna Camilla Kardashian Cardi Kelaniya Nikki. Manashian beyond say have had number ones with songs about being sexy wearing no clothes. Fucking cheating etcetera. Can I please go back to singing about being embodied feeling beautiful by being in love even if the relationship is not perfect are dancing for money or whatever I want without being crucified are saying that I'm glamorizing abuse? I'm fed up with female writers and all singers saying glamorize abuse when in reality. I'm just a glamorous person it's funny I'm better for authors. They glamorize abuse when rather under the glamorous person singing about the realities of what we are all now seeing are very prevalent emotionally abusive relationships all over the world. She hasn't deleted this. So you can read the rest of this if you want context but they basically goes into. Whoa is me. People have been so means even even though until you feminist. Because I make songs talking about ain't Shit Nigga and how much I love being in relationships with them and I also have appropriated native American culture and this hey every other culture that ain't Caucasian for our long and full full clarity or whatever for the record. I like London raise music. Wake up all of sudden acting like I can't stand the speech. I actually enjoy her weird aspect ghost music but that's neither here nor there for the point today so loads of the girls were not feeling is me. I'm the girls. Lana del. Ray was promptly dragged for this post shoes called racist for naming mostly women of Color In this post while staying. Hey since they can do this why can't I? She responded to some of the criticisms in her instagram comments. One of them one of the comments that she posted said something to the effect of one last thing on the topic of blankety blank blank blank and then later she posted another essay on twitter that instagram that says a couple of final notes on my controversial post. That's not controversial at all yesterday. Final works the feedback. I've heard from several people that I mentioned in a complimentary way. You did it whether it be Arianna. Are Those cat. I want to say that I remain firm and my clarity stance in that. What I was writing about was the importance of self advocacy the more delicate and often dismissed softer female personnel. Christ Jesus I met. There does not there does have to be room for that type in what will inevitably become a new wave slash third wave. Feminism that is rapidly approaching. Watch again this has been deleted. You Can Ghauri that should if you want to. Then today. She posted a video this time. Yeah why with all of the filters that make it look like when your great grandma's old pictures and she was dressed like a counselor at some pray the gay away can't and she went on again without an apology or acknowledgment rarely of how she made offended and more so defended where she was initially trying to say. So here boy. I don't understand any of this. I mostly don't understand the necessity. I don't understand why it had to happen at all race aside you know because yes you names like twenty black girls and Arianna but that is. I don't know why you needed to name any body the fuck at all. I understand that a lot like the people that are people who are like on the top of the charts right now or whatever by Lana del Rey for as many as I would say her sound is hasn't had a lack of success. You acting like you are somebody who constantly has to like yet again and again and again that you have talent. She puts out an album core base of fans here about it they buy. And she's the Queen of the festival scene like you're constantly touring constantly putting out stuff you've had success in all of the things that you've made so. I don't understand why you feel like you are above criticism. That's my first stopping. Point germ let's go down the block pullover again next point. Why did I say why? Did you name anybody? That should have been the first point. Well why the fuck did you have to say you can easily just been like okay? So I see given the charts and things today. There are more women that are finding successes you know in the industry singing and rapping about whatever the fuck they want to. I would like that same thing even though you have no lack of support but you know what I mean. Nobody had to be pinpointed and even in the video that she did today where she was dressed like a lumberjack. She says some Shit like Oh when I if I dance on a pole. I'm called a whore if twigs does it. It's our first of all again. Why are we naming anybody? Secondly have you seen twigs Paul van the bitches and art is art. She's a train fucking dancer. She's not GonNa just give you a tall around on the poll because she thinks it's sexy or whatever the fuck she not apples and mangoes apples and mangoes. They're not even almost king in the same thing. So let's skirt down the road just to taste again and pullover once more. What makes you feel like these women? You named are also experiencing constant criticism similar things you think that they don't give people like Nikki Moniz onset shit for saying like whatever about the ass like beyond say saying if you don't jump to put genes on you'll feel. My Pain has nothing to do. Not even similar to the things that using about or the subject matter. I because you know I got jumped up a jeans but also because again as someone who listens to this woman's music llamas and you know had don't hate it. She does have a sort of way romanticizing maybe not abuse specifically but definitely toxic relationships to the point where. I've listened to a lot of songs have been like okay girl and it's not to say that there aren't people who aren't obsessed with and revel in bad relationships and stuff like that but you don't say that somebody saying you know whatever about sexual freedom or owning their body or dancing on a pole equates to you being like this. Nigga treats me like absolutely absolute shit and I couldn't be more thrilled. It's not the same thing but past that like I said you think that they don't call all these other girls whores and and and all kinds of other unreasonable irrational shit constantly. It's like what were you attempting to do with any of this and then you're rash you're latching onto the fact that people are calling you racist or whatever because for a white person especially a Karen. That's like one of the like that's that's like the hot thing not the hot thing but it's like a hot button term. That literally gets your attention. That's the one that leaps out at you because you already know that the girls have given you shit for it or whatever. And now you're trying to say that proceeds from this Anada going to native American communities and all of that kind of stuff. But I just don't understand how how this a why leads happen and BE Y. It needed to be like doubles down onto three times. It never added up to anything that made sense. I think wanting to defend that type of music. Art It that it is that you decide to make is one thing but trying to throw countless other people specifically women of color under the bus when they're just minding their own fucking business and very likely experiencing the same shit that you're complaining about makes no sense to me. I know that the dog gets high. At least she sings about that as well. So maybe that's something that's going on civil listening. Perhaps I believe here sitting smacked myself not on Coke but you know what I'm saying. The girls are all dealing with their quarantining and trying to find peace however they may but dish it was not it not at all. No it wasn't. She could have made the point about feeling like critics for unfair without bringing anybody else into it. Exactly like you said. Every last one of these women has been criticized for their music or their sexuality or their content. Or all of these things in fact every last one of these black women has arguably had to do more than you would ever have to to even be taken seriously in the first place like. I say that somebody who isn't blown away by your music. I like high high by the beach high on the beach. I like it high beach like was like okay. This is fun but other than that. I don't really need s music so I just feel like there's a lot of there's some some self actualising that needs to happen here with Elizabeth less not come in through. She's just like really resistant to the idea that she was at all wrong for this. But girl you could have made this about you without bringing us into it and then not even just blistering off a bunch of women of color but saying question for the culture to kick it off as soon as you say that and then you list a bunch of black girls and then say how come they can do it and I came. Why would people not think like how you going to say? I don't understand how y'all bringing race into that Majesty says more about you than it does me bitch you literally you set it up. Maybe you need to look at you in yet. Another woman of color to try and make your point like I just don't understand. You could just continue to do whatever the fuck it is that you've been doing and get a dedicated group at Blake. Other people I'm telling you I really. I don't know anything about coding. I'm not like our Black excellence of the week but that at needs to be done it just needs somebody has made were people with platforms like this that they can just log in to be like so. I have feelings probably not wise to share them with the public or I want to know if it is unwise to share them with the public because this is something that a therapist probably helped you through or you could just worded with some axel sense like like. I said there's no shortage of support for your music. That is specifically for Caucasian ghosts. That's shop a and answering starbucks franchise refresh irs. But I don't know why you felt the need to share this with us right and makes to like why you don't even know what you're talking about. I'm not not a feminist but then there has to be a place in feminism for women women who look and talk like you and this whole talk of like a new wave of third wave of Feminism. The third wave of feminism came out in the Nineteen Ninety S. That is not something that is coming up. That is something that been done came so I don't you don't know what you're talking about but there is space for women in feminism who. I don't even know what you're trying to say about yourself girl. Subject yourself to men's dumb shit because you scared of being alone. I don't know what to do but I think she's just trying to say that there are groups of women that exists in like these types of relationships that are looked upon as toxic and that she's just representing that group in. It's unfair to not be able to do so without judgment or whatever like that's what. I assumed. She was trying to say but even with that presented to us or to anybody. I think with bare minimum sense like just common. It doesn't it doesn't really because not make you you do well. It's not like you have this this flaming talent. That's constantly overlooked. Because of the things that you choose to say. No you know what this sounds like to me. It sounds like when people want to call out one person or one publication in particular. But they don't WANNA seem Saltier Messy. So they make some big general statement like these when they was really talking about one person would wants thank review and so then you end up hitting everybody else. Would all these strays and so people come at you. Maddie you like. I don't get what the problem is when it's like had you just say dear fucking pitchfork I hate. You're looking good. It's like I feel like maybe she shouldn't just thrown some names on it and did that but this was. Ill advised you every part of this should have been rewarded because you you actually. There was a point nestled in here. That's worth tough but you. You framed it you set so much bullshit around it. It's almost impossible to find and they. You should have known soon as you said as name HIVE WAS GOING TO BE S. You should know you should sign you said Nikki annual in the barbs as well like a full dumb ass. Like oh you really. Don't pay no attention. That's what I know. That's what they cut people fine people that's their initiation so I don't even so you might just want to keep it the fuck you next time. Just say how you feel out throwing other artists into it who face criticism just like you do and are in charge of the way people receive you could say was just walking around here sands credit. I had no idea that Nicki Menaj has never been unfairly criticized. What that must have been the major Ed. Because I could've sworn all of right wing American wannabe on as head on a fucking Pike. After the formation video came out. I don't know what she is talking about here. I really don't see just came out of her ass with all this. Hey you didn't pay for nuns. Black women to do a fucking. She talked about how this is the one time that I've spoken out about anything of them feeling like isn't that unfortunate. The one time that you did it and this is it. This is what we've been given So whoever kept you to not speaking to this degree are in this manner up until now reach out to them vk reach out to them and figure it out does she thinks she's even the first white woman to sing about complicated or fucked up relationships like I feel like that's all the all white girls. What are you Elizabeth? Why like all rock or whatever in the eighties and nineties. Like you're not even doing anything supremely unique in terms of year subject matter the content of songs. Or what have you ever heard more sacral. I was getting ready to name the Queen. What are we gonna ever you could seeing like Goss spoil? You're never going to be above criticism. Someone's always going to be like. Oh I don't like that you did says such a disaster. It just happens that you do things that are probably like the criticisms understandable and you can discuss and explain. Have Conversation and debate and stuff like that being like. Oh so I see this you let Kaitlan is show you some ask. So what's the problem? Why that's not gonNA help any writing and you should just do whatever you WANNA do. Make whatever music you WANNA make regardless of what these critics have to say about it. Clearly you are successful. So why not? Just stay in your lane and go your own way. None of this had to happen. I blame the fuck virus. I blame the virus because this was just pointless. I blame Ronan for a lot back. I'm not unless like I said unless you got a little a touch higher than usual because you're tired of quarantining then maybe rony can catch a bullet for that as well but I feel like she would have said this shit regardless because she's just been holding in all of these feelings for criticism for our longstanding again right. Just put your music out angle on good luck to you for a lot of Del. Rey last but not least those who may have used up eight or nine lives. It's not all of them boy so apparently she has been outed as a frequent user of some chat room. I saw it referred to his tiny chat. But I don't think they I don't know if it is time I don't even know if it's the same site all the time but she just be in video chat rooms up until this day apparently with alleged trump's supporters Ann's right-wing in sales. I had to look Bisa. I didn't know what an insult. The in sales added a fucking minds. Those are the involuntary involuntarily celebrate. Yeah and they kill women for not wanting a fuck them like them. People are out there. Mind I can't sleep. I don't know what's going anywhere like I'm officially. Oh I thought in cells was like a Microsoft software that Kelly Rowland on how to use all right. I realized that's sale. And so that kind of anyway. So does Cabbie on these chat rooms apparently why people who make racist jokes and she allegedly would laugh along with the jokes and things like that. That was leaked. She apparently also be shaking a little touch. A asks for them Trumpers every now and then of course is and Also there was some song that leaked to any fifteen from her called din. Do nothin' which is a slur that it's apparently used to mock black victims of police brutality. So didn't do nothing. A lot of the cats are felines. I don't know what those A called they had questions Dosier cat is over. Party took place last Friday. Those who has mixed just for anyone who couldn't tell her wants to know posted the following Iowa press release. It says I want to address what's been happening on. Twitter not happening on instagram. Five use public chat rooms to socialize. Since I was a child. I shouldn't have been on some of those chat room sites but I personally have never been involved in any racist conversations. I'm sorry to everyone. I offended I'm a black woman. Half of my family is black from South Africa. I'm very proud of where I come from. As for the old song that's resurfaced. It was in no way tied to anything. Outside of my own personal experience. It was written in response to people who often used that term to hurt me. I made an attempt to flip its meaning but recognized that it was a bad decision to use the term in my music. I understand my influence and impact on taking this very seriously. I love you on him. Upsetting are hurting anybody. That's not my character and determined to show that to everybody. Moving forward thank you. What a strange buried. I don't really it's Ok Gr- you taking it very seriously but now there's a fuck does your cat t shirt on your website very order. Yeah so it's like. Are you taking this seriously or are you a fucking troll and loving it? The this is something I wouldn't have guessed of does something that I fully expect of her. Not Knowing what the fuck him plenty here about her doing or saying okay. So it's not like I would have been like. Oh Yeah does your cat totally seems like the type to be on racist tiny but here it. It's just like oh another weird thing from someone that I find that. He kinda weird Her own back for trust fund trump. He's that's not really surprising but the rest of it in the hard ours and all that other. Shit I just. Don't I never know what to make this job? But see is how I was introduced to her addresses. A cow of French fries knows singing move. Yeah I guess. The wonders went overseas. I'm not really surprised. She entertains white men. Because I think since I've known of her I've only ever heard to fuck around white boys anyway. All of this is too much extra but I knew it was some wrong with that girl when her tweets saying Faggot came out and she was like yeah. Everybody did that. So get over it and this is like oh no no no ma'am. I started looking at her crazy. So the fact that Y'all got somehow more emotionally invested in her. I don't understand did y'all forget the VAGA thing. Did it not matter whenever I thought of those account? That's the first thing that came to mind so I know you're really like say so. But as a goals yeah. I mean she has some good music and she can fuck it up. But it's going to be up to y'all to decide whether you support that or I been been able to clock it about this bitch. Something was wrong. Yeah I feel kind of the same. A couple of people hit me. And we're just like oh my is still just thinking. I'm so disappointed in Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah and. I respect that but I was just like I don't really feel like I'm personally losing anything. I think the talented I am not but I wasn't like super invested in her to the point where this feels like a blow to you know my spirit or so. Yeah I think you're right. It's kind of up to people to decide how they want to approach it. I feel like most of the people that have given her. The number-one are probably young people. Who are going to just move past it if we add fans anyway especially since she's giving you this attempt at an apology our really no like I don't some people said well. That explains how a lot of them wigs. Used to say it does explain the fucking hair. It short does every part about it but I think she was raised just outside like her daddy. Abandon them or something I think I read the. She has no matter father something right something like that. So I'm sure she does have issues with blackness and and with her father and both of them at the same time but I don't know which I cannot say I was shocked by this because watch. I'll expect it from this girl so she seems like part of this like little GNAWS X. era of celebrities that are like they just grew up in in my space and twitter was thing when they were like five right all of this shit whereas just like they the way that they exist outside of their content is super digital. Because that's just they're younger so like you said the whole way that she responded to Having said faggots to me just was like Online yet it just seemed like a really young and not taking much seriously and then all of the little weird in an shit her Santa. She's fuck arrests on Instagram or whatever. Oh it's just like I don't know girl like I don't even have it. She confuses me but you know. God bless everybody. I don't know if you are a those feline A. Feline Fan or whatever. Y'All calls and this is a hard time for you. You have my condolences and good luck in the feature. A lot of the barbs are livid. That didn't want their girl. You know next to anything. Any other forms of drama. Although I don't understand how nobody could blame Nikki for this right. It's just you know. The barbs are proactive. Their right to this before anybody says anything just like before you eat like nobody was her. I literally wasn't even thinking about Nikki. It is sad though that they just had this number one moment and now here we go just wasn't a whole two weeks into so. I mean those are head to know that people have been recording her taking screen shots and all that for as long as she apparently still be on them when I heard about it. They're like yeah. This was from four days ago. Go maybe the wife wasn't gone tail. I don't know how wide have you but for those of you struggling you know. God bless I D-. I never had expectations for this girl. The faggot thing was all any. Yeah yeah so yeah from there. I was just like all the songs cute that one's not and I just sorta life at that. This is really strange but she so exactly exactly well. 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I live in and I have a pretty good life. I'm in a new relationship with a twenty four year old black woman who is a CNA. My niece who is twenty two and four children asked us if we would like to adopt her youngest child. Who was born about three weeks ago? My niece's Dan through a lot especially with our mental health and she doesn't believe she is mentally capable of carrying another child. She has a husband but I don't think they are on good terms right now but that's a whole nother story. My girlfriend has literally been talking about having her own family. Since the day we met so she is all for it. I'm nervous lesbian surprise. I am nervous but willing to take on such a huge commitment and I believe we are both stable enough to take in a child. We also both have great support systems. The question is should we take on our commitment seeing as how we have only been together for four months or should we allow the baby to go to someone else? We honestly have a great relationship and communication is honest an open. We both believe we can handle it. But you never know what may happen. Please help love you guys so much. Thanks Nisha four months and they are talking about a half. Two time must move faster for list. I fucking people. Four months girls but crazy I mean I think it will be really doped like at least have the well. I guess I was GONNA say. I think it'd be dope at least have that proximity to the child's mom for the future you know depending on whatever however they want that but that's not necessarily a you don't necessarily have to adopt this trump for the proximity. Be There yes. I think that you're definitely right for considering whether or not. This is the right decision to make. I definitely would not be starting a family with somebody. F- four months. I think that is just absurd so much but I just can't cosign I can't do. I think it's probably find someplace for this child To grow up healthy and safe. And if it someplace again that that will afford Your sister right or needs knees. Your knees to still have access. I don't know you know to to hurricane in the future. Whatever then that's What I would be trying to do but I'm not I'm not having a mother fucking baby chat formats manigault corona viruses old in four months girl. Y'All relationship I know y'all happy but it's been four months. I don't even know what cereal we got a serial for a baby like yet. No y'all don't need to adopt this child together but if she's down with having a baby in the home then I think is great if you adopt this child and but then you need to think about you know that being your legal responsibility so I think that's a great option if you want to adopt your great niece or nephew or whatever and then you know y'all in the home also yacht together and if it works out great you know the baby has to mamas and if not then you don't have to have a fucking custody battle over a newborn that which girlfriend now sea bass complicated. It is complicated. Are With a are saying. That'LL BE ROUGH GRANTED. It doesn't work out or something in the future but I mean the laws the low right. Maybe you can get guardianship and way you can make legal decisions for the baby And have custody but it makes it easier for you know your niece if she is healthier down the line to come get her baby back or whatever. It's really up to you. I think I love that. Both of Y'all are down for it but I just don't think y'all should make this legal decision together. After sixteen weeks of being in a relationship it just does not sound like a good idea. And do you know how like all of the ways in which relationship transforms when you put a child in the middle and both have to assume. Responsibility is like your relationship is not going to to look anything the way that it does now. The way that y'all communicate is diff- is going to be different. Your priorities will be different. Your values will all come to the table. All your everything that you hold year and understand your way of life the way that you raise. Everything's is going to come up to the surface and that is an intense thing to be doing after four weeks. No too intense. Please please ladies I that you really like one. Another and really. Yeah my stay together forever and I hope you do I. Just this is too early SIS. Maybe you can do it. And then y'all can have the little family situation like there's already a pandemic at even more stress to your brand new relations with a joint adoption. So won't even imagine yes. Best of luck to Y'all into your niece hope Her mental health improves because Wolf. If it's bad already the virus was not making it better but anyway let's move on. Our next letter comes from. GimMe a fake name. Maestro Maestro Maestro says my problem is that I worked in a call center for an Auto Insurance Company for almost three years last September. I quit my job to pursue acting writing to travel to really focus on myself and making a career out of being creative. Well I learned that the acting business is hard to get into. I have been struggling for the past Asians or fit the barely surviving. I had to find extra work when I could and I picked up a bartending job to have some money coming in. I was so broke. I had to live out of my car. At one point I was in Atlanta at the time and ended up packing up and moving back home because my plans didn't work out. Plus due to covid. Nineteen bartending and production companies. Had to shut down anyway. Sure then today I jumped on facebook and saw an old CO worker of mine. Post that my former insurance job is hiring now. I still have the license required to get the job. I still know how to do it and it would give me the financial support. I need right now until I can fully support myself being creative and not. Just jump out the window like I did last time. My former coworker even said they get to work from home now. Which is perfect. The only problem is that when I put in my two weeks notice and did my exit interview I told the HR personnel going to L. A. Into Atlanta to act. I told them that there was nothing they can do to keep me there and I believe he gave and I believe I gave them a one out of five on my experience with the company. Not only the. I win around bragging everybody that I was taking the leap of faith to pursue acting. Now look at me trying to crawl back. I think the shame of failing is making me hesitant to apply but my bank account is shrinking. By the day I've been praying to not go back to corporate but I need some money to support myself and my dreams. What would you do in this situation? Would you reapply and Amaechi? You was row if the question comes up or would you just move on and hope that a better job opportunity comes. Thanks Maestro girl that got it happens to everybody literally so it is a lots of people have had those moments are like you the General Manager. All your hose can suck my little. I don't give a fuck about bitches and then you don't end up where you told all them hoes that you were going. Yeah it is it is whether you gotta go back some of the job or not could bumps Emma. Fuck at the grocery store and it'd be like oh you still in town. I thought that just moved to La to pursue acting. So you need a job and you do get them fucking job and if anybody has some slick shit to say tell them. Because I asked but don't listen. Don't do that last part. I never got the job for a long sir. A fury right. However you wanted to is why you in this uncomfortable position right now flying off at the bout I mean you have nothing to lose to apply again and maybe maybe whoever's doing the hiring is maybe a little bit older and so they look at your situation a little bit hall. Young person thought they could just fly off not ever need a dependable job. No more and you know. Maybe a little bit of grace were you and how you were trying pursue your dreams. What the worst that they can say is no. You might as well go for it. It's not like embarrassing when even turn you down from the job because of that like if you're flat out this was like a viewers flipping motherfuckers the bird on your last day and just like turning over the coffee and the break room and whatever then yeah. I could see them being kiss our asses. Don't ever come back here again but if you were just like Oh my goodness. I don't like y'all and Blah Blah Blah. Whatever I don't know that would make that much sense to not give you the job or whatever but like she said you don't really have much to lose viollis plenty to gain and I think that you're also crystal in saying that like maybe there will because it sounds like it was a surprise to you that it's hard to make it as an actor into but it was probably not a surprise to many of the show and a lot of people probably expecting your ass back there now. Well that hurt your ego. Certainly but it won't hurt. Show pockets if you get your job. Right they probably was talking cash shit about you look at this sopping for her damn Britches out here talk about all the things she go to be alright. So it's good luck. Nobody saw a pandemic coming and it was hard beforehand. So there's just no shame in needing to take care of yourself and doing a job that will allow you to do that. So please at least apply girl. You might as well apply. See what they say are our last question comes from Bianca. Well Not GonNa do that when I'm a do one. This one comes from Vincent who says I am a seventeen year old high school and I'm a gay man as I'm sure y'all know with this comes with. This comes experiences with those in the closet. Or those who are on the deal. I've had many of these experiences including one with a boy we can call Jason. Here's the problem Jason. I actually dated for a couple of months but no one knew because he wasn't ready to come out which I respect it eventually. We broke up because I felt unfulfilled like seventeen. I love unfulfilled. She shouldn't be any kind of field house in in school. Listen and talk with that you know comes plenty of becoming with everything. The program is that recently. My friend has been gushing over a boy who she refused to tell me about for months because she wanted to wait until it was serious and of course he is none other than Jason his thing. Jason told me Multiple Times. He was gay and just not ready to come out. And I've seen him use multiple girls s cover ups. My friend is the really romantic type and she falls hard and fast. I've known her for five years and she's helped me through the darkest times. I want to tell her not to go through with this relationship but also I know she can be spiteful and gossiping when hurt and I do not want to anyone ever. How do I go about this? Should I just leave it alone and let her figure it out any advice appreciate it? Thanks Vincent is that what I say. Yes Okay Holly Lou. Seventeen helping them right to young young. Have a problem medicine even taking place so I mean friends rude right now but you know I'm totally kidding. I think that Yeah it's probably you're also young. It's like this isn't really like a on a real problem but I just feel like you are too young to to to take. I don't know how to word this like I feel like y'all are too young at this point to kind of take serious a lot of these things. I think that with a bit more time that Jason will likely are hopefully Reach a better understanding of his ex reality hopefully be more comfortable in that especially if he's not out here that seventeen assuming he's the same thing to do and Yeah I think that this is a thing where you can just know to kind of. Keep it moving since you weren't fulfilled. Look I'm just thinking like what could do the puts butter popcorn when y'all went to go see trolls world tour like what Julian he did. Not by me nothing what fulfillment there should be. No this is of education so young so young and it's just like I'm not going to be more worried about school because I'm determined to be the numbers given stay school as much as possible even though I was sit in school just garbage like did nothing. Okay Yeah I think our too young. I think this is one of those things. It sounds like y'all and not even ten years. We'll be cracking the fuck up about maybe you N. Jason Together will not be laughing about it but I think it's something that if I think about all of the gay experiences that we're Or just thoughts that revolved around my mind at seventeen years old lifts you better and better once you get older. You know what I mean. And Jason could end up being one of these negatives who's fully grown and steal really locked up about his sexuality in lines to women and men into whatever kind of fucking shit in and whatnot but business as a business on your concern. You're not like the gay superhero that needs to save everybody from negus on yellow by. Especially if you're saying that this girl maybe spiteful or whatever the fuck I does she seventeen again but like of course you probably spiteful and start a threat on twitter about it or whatever the takes out. I don't know so I think that you and your lack of fulfillment should just go ahead and focus on being young and having a good time whenever you can go back outside and This is adorable like this is so funny that a seventeen year old. I mean because it's totally seven. It's totally a thing that you're dealing with that Jones. Say Dan absolute dating and trying to figure all of that shit out and stuff like that but at thirty two itself funny to hear it. Because it's like. Oh this one of those things you just get older and be like Jason was fucking stupid grand. Jason will likely be older and be like me and also I can sue you. Know How many like Kuwait means I know today? That thought that they were trying to seventeen years old whereas lying to girls and try to date stuff like that like clothes so I was your girl. Yeah I would probably talk to him about. It'd be like you notice my friend right like this is you put me. I feel like I'm in an awkward position which you push on somebody who is my best friend in this whole world. I think you I think you can do that. The girl is his best friend. Yeah Okay I missed. I Bahri four five whole years. Okay since they were twelve which it's a laugh at them for a young. I'm young funny funny. When you're that age stuff that we would laugh about at this age is like a problem is like thankfully you know if you have depending on your circumstances your problems like actual you know needing to eat and clothes and things like that are usually being taken care of by an adult in your life. Therefore your issue is Disney is on sale and dating my best friend because of course it's just so young and I can't help it. Is I know that some of y'all people listen to this. Show be all in your feelings because we always talk about people being again not faulting you for being your got damaged. I tell your parents has. I'm just saying it's funny. In retrospect because it sounds like something I probably would have had on my mind also to seventeen year old but at today I'm like damn it was fucking stupid. You likely will do the same but I think you're right in that you should talk to your friend Talk to Jason. It'd be like Liangelo right since you are just dead. Set on not outing him. Which again sounds like a good idea? Especially when it comes to this vindictive friend I would be like no come on Nigga. I'm right here like I'm literally right here five years. He's no play with somebody else's best lay me. What are we doing here okay? Should we wrap it up or should we do one more I? It's up to you Ali. You call it all right. Let's do just one more. This one comes from Harriet. Who SAYS NORMALLY? I'm an active member of the not many folks coalition. Especially when it ain't got shit to do with me however this shit is to thank to forget. My friend was a plus one at a wedding where he was shocked to learn that the groom was in fact married and the bride was his side chick. This was absolutely a commitment ceremony where he vowed to only cheat with her his wife and this goes the way I hope. I think it's his wife and children. We're in a town. Forty five minutes away and he was pulling a long shift at the fire station. He would be firefighter. Meanwhile this Nigga was in the backyard of an AIRBNB lighting a unity candle exchange rings and reciting vows to a goofy bitch in a real. David bridles exclusive game. They even had efficient flown out to perform the fuck Korie and then electric slid their way to hell in the dining room of the Renzo. Eight guests K K. Komo Public. I wouldn't have believed this shit. If they hadn't asked my friend to take pictures and videos for them on his show. After he airdropped the pictures he kept a few for us to gag over. Of course it's like a bad idea for a cheater but whatever you would think cheater would be tighter about this shit. But anyway after he found out after finding out his real name I found the man and his wife on facebook as a human being. I feel like the wife has a right to see them as Satan's alter and do what she wants with the Info Omar God. I found her business email so I could make this an anonymous tip however I also know that. This isn't my business I wouldn't want to get my friend caught up in mess. But he doesn't know or care about these people either. Well if you're in Chris Ledoux. Thanks love hairy it honestly quite so. Which one is the friend so? Her friend is the one who was at the ceremony. He's the one who took the pictures and show. He doesn't know that he was a plus one. Which why plus ones invited to your fake commitment ceremony to. You're searching ahead. Just say nine. This is too much but I love this letter because normally I tell ya to not be messy but I would absolutely do this. I sure as fuck would I think that yeah. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't but I wouldn't fault anybody for doing. I would actually love to be next to the person who is doing it to watch but I feel like personally I will leave myself out of it just to stay away from this but I don't think that there's anything wrong with blowing up fucking ride the nerve a commitment ceremony okay. How you don't have a whole ceremony with another bitch. And then people to documented. That's what I'm saying. It's like this can you or your friend. You know it was A. I'm just over there at the Kroger. Yeah I would I would absolutely create a dummy email account and sent a message. Does that send this clearly? None of my business. I just saw that. You knew this person and thought you might be interested and then just send that shit right on off. If the wife was my friend I would do it three times like I would say to her face. Yeah but not knowing him and my friend being the plus one like you just seems so removed from the situation that I was just try I would tell the friends like look if it gets messier. Make sure that I know of the details because I'm bored. Say So let's do that but I don't know I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it for any specific reason because I think view doing it would be fantastic and hilarious again. Probably very entertaining for you but me. Personally I don't think I would. I definitely would the fact that you are so far removed from the situation is exactly why I would feel comfortable doing. It is like these are just random people. You don't really know them. It's not like you either one of them anything so for you is just like a moral issue. I guess where you just feel like people who are getting cheated on deserve to know and I agree if it was me I would want somebody to send me the pictures and videos please friend of the random plus one a my husband's commitment ceremony to his main like the idea so fucking preposterous that my husband is spending that kind of money on another bitch and bold enough to have people take pictures and videos of it. I would do because sometimes a published UK can hit a twenty dollar mark. Let's good case the AIRBNB rental. They probably had some streamers they bought a bunch in Lati- light candles. You know he probably spent. I see a paper. I see a paper or plastic tablecloth definitely so exchanging rings which aside shake is some of the goofiest should I have ever heard him a whole life do it. I'm not changing my mind. I'm just saying I still wouldn't do me. I think you should. Yeah I think you should to. It's not like I mean. I really doubt that she's go right. You back and be like you. Where did you get? This is probably GonNa go straight to her husband but again this can be traced back to you so you should also send him like an anonymous calling card or something. That's just like got like ransom style. Letters all in it that basically lets him know that she knows now and like set off like a probably beat you to it. Never mind but I would definitely think Chris brings a fantastic point which is just the fact that you are removed from it. Basically just makes flipping a switch not must feel Stewart. Yes I wish we were France so you could. Bcc ME. And I can't just sit bags can okay. Please don't be seen a read on this but best of luck to you in your in your journey to miss I I have to support it. I'm not mad at biggest are so they are. They are both were even just a low growing run off somewhere and do your own little one on one style things she must be the type that was like what I say like. She must have demanded. I submit to you exactly okay. Because I actually married her she is. My wife is my legal partner so I cannot do that with you but a bullshit commitment ceremony promising to not commit adultery with anybody but you I will do that for you. Girl the whole thing. Come Down Yeah. I would do it. Update yes please do if you have a question for the read. Send it to ask. The read. Edgy DOT COM. We're GONNA take a quick break and be right back to the rees also being brought to you by Barefoot Hard Seltzer Service. A vibrant and refreshing hearts ulcer made from three key ingredients sparkling water a hint of natural flavors and real wine underlines real line. Israel made by barefoot. Make us most awarded wind brands. Each can is seventy calories and four percent alcohol. The perfect amount to kick back with on a sunny summer day or night in and saying you can maybe kick out a chair on the Veranda in have a toast to you so is the weather is heating up. You can look for barefoot. 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I mean as always the world is absolute shit but there are people who piss me off more than others and it's people who deliberately go out of their way to make things worse or harder for others so I don't know if you remember maybe a month or so ago had to cuss out that bitch who went and like coughed. All over the produce in the grocery store and they had to throw out at fucking food because she was being stupid. Well right here in the Tri State area right across the bridge in Jersey. A man named George Falcon is under arrest or was under arrest because he was at the store in New Jersey. If you don't know up here You definitely can't go outside without a mask but there are certain places where they will chase. Show ask the fuck out in. The grocery store is one of them like they're not playing around especially because everybody has to go to the grocery store so this man was at a Wagmans in Jersey on Sunday when a worker asked him to move away from her and a food display because he was too close in response he leaned in even closer coughed and laughed and told her that he had the virus. So when did she finished speed his ass? She's probably not done. She's probably still whipping his ass right now. If you don't know I think New Jersey is maybe right behind us. As far as the death toll from this fucking virus they have over one hundred and fifty thousand cases. It's not a joke about anywhere. Especially in a place where things are already so fucking hectic so he was charged with making a terroristic threat in the third degree and fourth degree of obstructing administration of the law. Both charges are felonies. Because on top of that sucker he also refused to provide his name and I d for the police detective who was actually already at the supermarket. He was just part of security. Saying you have to call the police. The police was already there. And then for the next forty fucking minutes. He wouldn't even give the damn man his idea or his name Sir. If you'RE GONNA be bold enough to deliberately. Spread Germs during pandemic. You ought to be bold enough to put your name and I d behind it. Y'All bitch made for the Shit you be doing. I would assume that if your boss was so big that you felt like you could go cough in essential workers face during a fucking pandemic then. You should have been the bench to be like an my name. Is George Falcone's at two eighty nine Manchester Drive? Like come on this issue so fucking great. Says you don't have no worries since other people's health and safety don't mean nothin' to you this woman asked you to back the fuck up. Not just for her before the sake of the food which other people have to eat as well anesthetic. Just being like. Oh my bet you know didn't mean to get too close to the hot bar. Whatever you decided to take it in the exact opposite direction and sign yourself up a COUPLA felonies. I want this white man prosecute to the fullest extent of the law. I want voting privileges suspended license seized. I want him banned from all grocery stores in the State of New Jersey. Whatever needs to be done to send a message that you crackers might feel safe spreading your around your own homes your own communities you. Don't give a fuck about nobody else. Do that shit in your neighborhood do that shitting your backyard. Do that Shit with your friends and family who come over and take the risk to breathe. You'll same nasty esser. Don't go to people who are at work. Meaning they're not necessarily choosing to be here but they are doing a job that is essential for us in these times and then threaten their lives and their safety. It's just how why bullshit just absolute Caucasian Malarkey. That cannot sitting in jail. Do it now enjoy the word? Morgan since cove is so fucking fun you know. It's rampant in the prisons. So why don't you go there? Why don't you go shopping? Somebody's face down to the jail. See how you see you feel good is because I just don't know what y'all are not taking seriously about this the. Us has over one point five million cases by the time the show comes out. We'll probably have one hundred thousand dead so I don't know what else needs to be done for you to understand that this is serious cinema jail. Well all righty. Yeah that's it. Well I I'm GonNa pass my read to this one is coming from. Cpi CD says. I'M GONNA keep this short jumping right in. I want to start by saying I'm not employed in the medical field nor am I considered an essential worker because of this like many others. I've had the of working from home. No kids praise card but I am married so there are still pros and cons. Anyways is marriage a pro ACA. That was implied. It's a con okay anyways because I haven't been working from home I can no longer partake in the water. Cooler talk usually shared among the team in the Office. Recently and chatting with some of my colleagues via zoom and skype. I've learned there are a few of our colleagues that are refusing to wear masks and public including one. We are allowed back into the office. Not because they are persons with trouble breathing or otherwise unable to remove their masks without assistance. Nor are they children under the age of to rush now is comparable but slow solely because they disagree with the recommendations from our Democrat Governor Minnesota? I know Oh hey rose disagree bitch what people are dying and you're disagreeing over preventive recommendation wearing a mask does not make you more. Democrat Republican Libertarian Green etc. Barely lines you with human decency. Snow these notes mass. Do not guarantee you will not contract the virus. It can help the prevention of it. Bottom Line please. Do not turn wearing a mask. Something that can reduce the spread of the virus into a political statement. These our safety recommendations from public agencies. You're not helping anyone. I'm not wearing a mask and seeing as how you do not care for this. Maybe take a step back to realize you're also not helping yourself people. Please wear masks. Some stores are even proven providing disposables for free upon entry. That's my read Also love show appreciate you to being yourself. See so shot out to. Cpap telling us there are a lot of people who are treating this as if it is some sort of political game yeah and leisurely trying to be safe or keep others safe is a testament to your weakness or your How easy it is for you to be controlled by the media or whatever I don't know Nigga it's literally basic people getting sick cover your stakeholders this is science. This isn't politics. This is all even. It's deeply the science. Even the politics had to get one poor scientists to come through our doctor. Come through answer these questions. Because they don't know what the fuck on and for the longest periods and even give a fuck about what's going on still don't go fight by WISCON- exactly but you know what we do know how to prevent the spread of viruses wearing the fucking mask staying at home staying six feet away from people. These are all things that you can do to help. Protect yourself and others. That is just science. You would think that they've asking you to build a shabby by Hanes. Okay like it's not even complicated. Just do what the fuck needs to be done so that we can get this shit over with and move on. Yeah you would think we would lockdown like what the anyways numb lastly. I just wanted to say a fuck you to three individuals today decided to leave the house During the daytime grocery store and get some things that I needed in the building they have put on signs in the elevators outside the elevators that say to help prevent the spread of stuff of whatever. 'cause I said on the show. We had someone in the building who added which to me. I just took as at least three or four people in this building habit so but like they put these signs up. That basically say that if unless it's an absolute emergency they are asking for us to only have one person or one family in each elevator at a time. Like unless it's an emergency Just try to take another car. Wait for the one to come. Yep makes total sense. Do not have a problem with that. So today I'm going down besides has been a forever and this for the first time is when I was taken elevator because usually I leave very late like if I'm going out to get anything most of these stores don't close around midnight or whatever psycho out late just to deal with people less but whatever. The reason is time somebody stops on a couple of floors underneath me. I'm expecting they're gonNA see me and be like all right. I'll take the next one because that's what we're supposed to be doing. Not only. Did they not do that? Of My three years. Who got onto the elevator with a none of them wearing masks? And I said like we're supposed to go one at a time. And they basically looked at me like I was disgusting and said like over not sick. Cj Oh yes. Oh no I would have spent and I thought to myself like okay. I can spend the rest of the day at home. Do this show eats snacks and play some video games. I could just let this go get off the elevator and just move on or ACA crat. All three skulls probably a few more into a few. At least I got off the fucking elevator and it has to wait for like two well. The one that I waited for like the one that came right after had two other people in it so I let that one go and then another one came ahead somebody so I let that one go by finally got onto mother fucking elevator and could leave locking building to go get shit that I needed so I really just wanted to take this time to say. Fuck all three to focus. Who came onto the Goddamn elevator? It's basic basic how you know that. I wasn't motherfucking sick. Rather fucking my supposedly. How do you know that you are not sake all three? I'm a fuck is were tested and having done anything since haven't gone anywhere since you not wearing a mask now. So it doesn't seem like you're taking mission seriously that we had somebody in the building that is sixty you know how many are currently sick in the city and we live smack. Dab in the fucking anus dams. Like what the fuck? But I'm supposed to just be like Oh totes. Cool all right like I don't pay rent in the same fucking to lock your is even if it wasn't a virus. I still want job bitches and get off the fucking elevator. 'cause I don't like people. I'll lockdown you niggers and this is exactly why people are selfish and ridiculous and don't light following orders and for whatever reason so many people right now feel like they have to show their rebel. You side given how many rules are being placed on everybody everywhere. You go now telling you what to do and how to wear this whatever and some of is just hate being told what to do clearly so you just doing whatever the fuck you want to. This is life or death so I'm just going to play a game with somebody else probably would have been like sure. And let's all just breathe each other's mouths until we get the ground floor as well since we're here not me and I'm just thanking the Lord for Growth because also in my thirty two years I feel like I have gained the patience needed to just step away from situations like that because ten years ago. Even if it didn't get physical it would have got very verbal. Yeah so I would have definitely cut well like I'm supposed to now get off of the mother fucking elevator rather than Yaw just waiting for the next one chat keep each other entertain until the next got damn car comes down like are you fucking kidding me. It was just the most annoying fucking thing and I told myself this is exactly what the fuck you get for. Not being the old you know you are. You should have just left the fucking house to go and get them groceries at ten forty five normally do talk. You WanNa go outside when the fucking sun comes up each who are you know? That's not Joe. Is they fall for not giving a fuck about nobody else even to the point where you not wear masks. Why the fuck are you not wearing a mask? I have not left my apartment without a mask on since March. I do not understand these people at all you around viruses all outside right. I walk down the hall to throw the trash out mass. Yes I don't give a fuck was going to go to get my mail. Mass walking the Dog Mass. Where everything what? I'm doing because let me tell you something I could probably go down to the store without a mask. And there's maybe a a decent chance that I won't get sick are catching anything. Or whatever but preventative. You know like Definitions so if I can do things that cost me. Virtually nothing right aren't harmful and in fact do the absolute opposite. If I can do these things to keep myself safe and healthy people around me safe and healthy. Why not be she? WanNa get into a group of month a group elevator with motherfucker. You don't know any guy masks on and talking to me about some were not sick. I damn near ripped out everyone fucking. Adam's apples busiest I and I was like opposite point. I have not gotten onto the every time with are going down every single time. I've been on the train on the train on the car by myself and I just by staying in just make sense or whatever and of course though one time that motherfucker stopped. I had to be dealing with dummies. Like it couldn't have just been somebody that was like all right cool. 'cause that's exactly what the. Fuck I've been doing this whole aasheim. Dan White people bow just no Fox giving it all to other people's safety insecurity none at all. I would've taken off my mask and just started spitting directly to jail. You went directly to jail just like terrorists busy right yup terrorism but why are they leaving the House without mass? Where are you even the fut- going like they have already confirmed? I'm sure the person who was sick by at the time that they mentioned it or whatever is no longer sick. They're all right. But you know that that like we have confirmation of that virus has touched this. This is why you're even in here. Playing that Kinda game to me is confusing but fuck all that do what she wanted to base. If you if you want to add this I feel like some are intentionally. Just trying to get other sick for whatever fucking evil as reasons but Jewish you to do for you fuck all that other shit and and whatnot. There are literally signs in this bitch. That say hey wait on the next unless there is blood that is just leaking from every orifice in your face unless you are just like broken. You mean if you're having a baby like I don't know it has unless this is an obvious emergency where you can not wait just way that was not the fucking case and. Y'All awesome dig headed assholes for it. I man if I would have snapped off on them I would have been just so yeah then you would have been the wrong area typically Nigga this super angry and whatnot here. Y'All being the stereotypical careless whites. Y'All WanNa be slave southbound at the same time like you could never imagine what is not be why and have to be expose to typical whites ness on a day to day basis. Because some shit that I guess is just regular stuff really like walking around in Daisy Dukes. When is forty degrees outside? It's strange too many of us and like I guess it's hard for you to see that because it's just the stuff of your ancestors I guess but y'all make decisions that I just cannot get into. Don't make no mother fucking sense to me and the world could literally be on fire and you'll still be walking around like eightieths. It doesn't make any sense. So Fuck Yasser Man. And on that note. I think that wraps up this week's episode of the read check us out on social media at this is the read. Our website is. This is the re dot com. I think that was my smoke alarm. That just went off on anything. Yeah I think this so you know still not in a city up just going to have to fucking deal but yeah anything right go change my fucking battery in a smoke alarm then. Nigga you know what I used to like joke about that smoke alarm battery needing to be changed people's videos and shit when I live with my mom was making Youtube or whatever the fun when you have your own place and Shit be going off you let it go for maybe a day before you lie. Let me find a fucking stepladder. Some Shit's I can get up. God bless you for many people stepladder may not even be enough on me. It's not enough. It is not cheap five to stack chairs to get up there. So yeah it's GonNa take me a while so and when I called like I don't know what to tell you that's not as miss. Oh it drowns out here by the second more meanwhile you have Biz doing some Barnum and Bailey Shit. Balancing it on fucking stools and chairs like Tom and Jerry. Trying to fuck and change it. So it doesn't drive you bonkers off in my house for at least twenty four hours before I find the time like I literally have to be like. Just do it now. You just do it now so you don't have to think about it again. Yeah I don't and I don't have time tonight. There shooting stars on my islands. I have to go to work. I don't get them. I don't get them like I don't understand why I never have any shooting stars. I've never had shouldn't stars and I know them bitches. Tom and Isabel supposed to be like ABC News. We shouldn't start now. They don't do that for me. But sometimes I don magic Juan even without the Even without Isabelle telling you sometimes they're shooting stars anyway so less has never been to your island bladders little sister. So then when Celeste Kane? The shooting stars were there. Talk if you're just running around outside and all of a sudden you hear little bill noise like a little Kling Kling something like that. Just look up at the Sky Impress A. That's how you wish on a star. I better you have shooting stars and you just didn't know this sound was probably sounds familiar. You can wish on some of my stars in and they'll be on your island tomorrow the star fragments and you can get whatever recipes Celestis handing out I've been wanting to fucking magic wand because that's how you like you can like save preset outfits. Yeah but I don't like it because it doesn't you can't then edit the outfit. It's like you have to wear that whole thing that you that you put together. You can't adjust that outfit at all so it's just like component. Yeah it's like you're wearing like a skin kind of I don't. I don't really see the quality of life improvements to issues love animal crossing. But it's some shit that like like. I don't need to be stopped in nooks cranny every day when I'm coming and they follow you like I was. What is the Hedgehog or the the eight services that little blue and I'll be like this is very wide view. Ma'am like I'm just looking around. You don't have to follow me everywhere that we are going. I'm not going to steal anything from. Do you ever talk to the same streets. Mabel the big sister yeah I don't know if maybe the whoever's always back there at the sewing machine sometimes because I know that she's like they have like some deep story or some shit right. You have to go talk to her every day for like a week. And then she'll start giving you extra patterns that you can use when you customize your stuff they honestly could have animal crossing night school smoking game. Like what the Hell am. I still learning about stuff and this fucking game for months at this point. Yeah but anyway. I don't think also because she doesn't really talk like the first time you talked. She's like yeah. Get on my face. I the first few times that you speak our should be like bitch. I'll have you WANNA talk to somebody go bitch. I'm working away. But she wants you just once a day come back and talk to her and then eventually she'll be like oh. I love you so much. My favorite and she'll shit like that. They do a lot of where they don't explain stuff to you but you kind of supposed to go and do something over and over again before. Change is a hoot all right too much anyway Shots the offer still listening. You can go to A. This is the read on instagram and twitter for more stuff. Misuse shop the read Dot Com. Frommer shots the offer still Cop The merchant things that nature just like. I don't even know if who needs a time. Apparently some student thanks for that. And I think that's it. Yeah we appreciate the support and we will see you next week.

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Jason Matthew Smith

"Hello my name is Matt through and welcome to sci-fi talk come on join a long jump on the bandwagon. Everybody else has a gun ride. Hi Ernie Hudson Hi. I'm the author of the return. Man I this is nick raw from Gaza ventures. Hi this is Wendy and Lisa Thomson. Hi. I'm Amanda Tapping from gift. You One stargate Atlantis and sanctuary. This is renee. Oh bears Wa I play shape shifter Oto on Star Trek Deep Space Nine Brown and I play Hoyle and yesterday was a lie as well as on Star Trek Enterprise couple pigeon concept designer in film over. I am Emily Hampshire and I play Jennifer going on twelve Mortiz. Eleven five Hi. This is sci-fi talk and I'm Tony to Lotto Jason. Matthew Smith has been all J.J. Abrams films since two thousand nine and once again he boards the enterprise and Star Trek beyond. He's also appeared in. Star Trek renegades as well for Tim Russ we chatted about the movie and losing value. Cast mate very candid and optimistic conversation for the Third Star Trek Phil Star Trek beyond. This is your third time around the enterprise What can you tell us about it? I mean that was a little apprehensive with the original trailer but but the last two have been. Oh okay I think is going to be a good movie. So what can you tell us a little bit about the film no spoilers? Of course there's been a little bit of grumbling I've heard as well with you know the pictures that got leaked a earlier on and people were saying the costumes. Look Very Star Wars Year Guardians of the galaxy and You know we are not. I can definitely tell you that we are not going for that vibe for that element. This is a very true Star Trek Film and in fact I think out of all of them is is more true to the original series than anything previously done and I can tell you that the visual effects and the set pieces and props. Everything has been amped up. It's amazing Visually I think this is you know the Color Palette and the color schemes of some of the stuff that I've seen is just it's mind-numbingly awesome and I think that so far. This has been kind of a disappointing summer for movies. There haven't been any like really standouts for me personally and I think I think a lot of people are gonna go see beyond Because it's a great film and that's that's you know. I'm not just plugging my film. My movie I actually a big Fan of movies in general and I and I have not seen the full film so I'd I'm not saying I definitely you know no that is going to be but I believe that this film is going to be the best movie of the summer. Oh cool Well you had J. J. working with the first two films now. You have a new director Justin Lin and did the vibe on the set change at all I you know. I don't in the first couple of films you know. We're we're getting to know each other. We spend a lot of time together Second Film. It's a little bit more familiar now. We're on our third film. Everybody's it's like you never left and it's like hey how you doing while you know. I haven't seen you for three years but it's just like you just pick up where you left off and I think for as far as a the director goes Justin is kind of like a substitute teacher. You know coming into to fill in and I. He's more than that though because it. I'm just using the substitute teacher as A. He's the cool substitute teacher. The comes in. It's like the the groundwork has already been established. We had the class and everything. But he's the cool guy that comes in and You know he kept all the same standards for excellence and I think that his style is slightly different than Jj as far as he uses a lot of different Camera set ups and camera shots to shoot the same thing and and from that aspects. You know you be because he does that because the action you know it. It's able to capture that action sequences a lot more because you have a lot more material and You know whereas a lot of jj stuff is you know. Wanted to camera setups for seen so I think. Visually and Action wise beyond is going to be amazing but I think also with this one it keeps its heart kids. It's it's humor in and really stays true to the world that gene roddenberry created sell cope. I I got asked about Idris Elba. Who is one of my favorite actors? And Hey I'm on. If they WANNA make him James Bond I'm all for yeah me too. Idris was awesome. He is Is Really Fun to work with and really hard worker man. He did not have an easy job in this at all and I think what kind of astounded me I mean. He's a huge star is a huge star and he. He rarely complained which was amazing. You know given that you know he's in prosthetics and things like this where he's just sweating his butt off and you know it's he spends hours in makeup and now thanks these nature so address was Was really a lot of fun to work with. Always kept a lot of humor and really I. My respect for him grew tenfold working with themselves. Well unfortunately during the filming or after the filming Well during the filming we lost Somebody into star Trek family and Leonard. Nimoy and And most of the cavs took that great pitcher on the bridge which I think set it all and then unfortunately recently we lost Anton Yeltsin as well so a couple of tragedies there especially the last one because he was so young you know what. What's your fondest memory of Anton Anton on the first film I think it was the first day of shooting. We were all all of the cast was coming out at the same time. You Know Chris Pine Zoe and Zach and everybody was coming to set and we were all wearing these robes the covered our outfits due to the secrecy of and we all look like a bunch of like you know druids going to some kind of secret mass and You know we had to get into these golf carts. That were completely locked out. So you're not only in the blacked-out robe but you're getting into a black curtain and and you can't even you don't even know who you're with until you get inside and then everybody took took after realms. Oh I don't know any of these people pretty much. I'd never seen Chris Pine in a movie before and You know I'd seen anti before and I was just shocked at how young he was. I mean this was eight years ago he was like eighteen. Nineteen years old and when I start talking to them you know I. I asked him who he was playing. He said check off and I was like your your check off your kid and his but I didn't say you're a kid but I was like. Wow but when? I started talking to him his vocabulary and his wits was so advanced that I felt almost stupid talking to you know and He was really so funny so brilliant And Super Smart Really Really Smart Kid and I just think what happened to him was You know it's a horrific accident and and so unexpected and I fade. All of the cast is pretty pretty well in shock from it and it's really cast a dark cloud. I mean. We already had the dark cloud with with Leonard. Nimoy passing. I mean there really is a real love for The original cast amongst all the The Star Trek The newer star Trek cast And respect there and you know new new more Worked quite heavily with the so we got to know him and You know it's it's it has been a hard year for us in. It's definitely casting a dark cloud over the premier in everything but you know it's Light it's life though you know. My my son had a had a question on his science tests the other day that said all things die true or false and it's true and we're all we're all here for a short period of time and and we try to make the most of it in everyday because we're not guaranteed tomorrow. Yeah absolutely that's well put on a positive note. The cool thing is. This is the fiftieth anniversary of Star Trek. And I mean I used to. I came into Star Trek the original series rather late but I actually saw the entire third season off the air on NBC. Yeah I mean I was around that long but I was a kid. My mom was was upset. Casino the way. The women dressed on the show and and she goes. What are you watching and I go it star trek mom so I remember very fondly but I mean yeah. What's it mean to to to be his birthday and and thank God? We're still making star Trek. Yeah I I have a question for you actually. Do you think the gene roddenberry actually envisioned that. This could keep going fifty years after he created it. I mean I think he would hope and believe dream of it happening. I don't know I mean I really don't know the answer to that. What do you think I I? I don't believe he ever would have imagined and At a somatic convention in the seventies and he was just totally blown away by it. But I think as his health deteriorated when he was shooting next generation He even said so an interviews that he says he expects other people to pick up the mantle and continue star Trek Long. After he's gone so I think he I think he is in total agreement with with it. I mean he'd lost a lot of his authority on Star Trek when they made the the movies original movies. So that must have been hard for him but But you know when he was doing next. Gen I think he kinda came to grips with kind of losing star Trek and passing it onto another generation to run and I mean I couldn't be happier that. Jj is involved. I mean I can't imagine it not being done without Jj. Because I mean he he's. Our Spielberg are George Lucas for for the newer generation. He he's a fantastic filmmaker story storyteller. I I'm a big fan of his and all of his films. And you know as a as a person J.J. Abrams. is just an amazing individual. He's he's The the biggest talent of his is actually being able to remember. Everyone's name and you know if you meet you. Got One of those kind of memories. Where if you meet you remembers you and I mean he knew all the background people's names and it's he's a remarkable director but your your original question about the this being the fiftieth anniversary. And what does that mean? I think it's huge for me. I have I've never done a convention. I'm doing comic con this year. Yeah you can have the premier there exactly and and this is my first convention ever and the reason why jumped in the water is now is is. Because it's the fiftieth anniversary. I mean well that and our our film is doing at it as well but you know I'd just thought what a cool thing to be a part of it. It sounds like this is sort of the homecoming for Star Trek. I mean it's been around forever I it's it's sort of the world celebrating the world of Star Trek and it deserves praise. I mean it's it all the technology all of the the fantastic characters that it's created all the all the dreams and scientists that it's inspired I know that you know Stephen. Hawkins is a is a huge fan. I've heard I've seen a lot of documentaries on a Lotta scientists that site Star Trek for their inspiration. And for me this This movie more than anything is going to be a celebration of Star Trek and I encourage everyone to go out and participate in it as well. Cool well I know that William Shatner is GonNa be at comic con doing a Star Trek panel so I certainly hope. You guys connected. He shows up on your red carpet would be just about awesome to see the two kirks together. I think that would be great. That'd be cool I I. I have a dream that you know. Maybe he might recognize me and say. Hey you might have been able to Punch Chris. Pine but you'd never be able to punch this Kirk. I gotta I gotTa ask you the casting. What was that like for the first film for you? It was very unexpected. I didn't even really know what I was auditioning for. My agent kind of hinted that it was star Trek but it was a black ops Casting sort of process I didn't script until I went in all the characters. Names have been changed. I think mine was like farm. Boy You know number winder something and and You know they had all these different names in once I got cast fam- out you know what it actually was and I remember telling my my mother. She was huge star trek film Fan and I said A Mom I'm doing star Trek and she was like now she. She freaked out. There's not there's no better experience than to freak out your mom maker so happy and my uncle to is. He's a huge Star Trek Fan. He Has. He has a model enterprise in his Kitchen sits on his table. A real model enterprise out there. I got a few of these is his is like the big one you know. They're like giant one. Yeah I built one of those. When I was a kid he loved those. Yeah I think I think he built his two is like a modeling type of thing but You know it's it's I don't I don't even remember what we're what the question was. But you know as far as the casting process right so so yeah I mean I. I auditioned on on tape. They send it off to. Jj came back a week later and said you got the part and then we started work it was and I would never in a million years thought that I would be able to do. Three fell three films. You now three star trek films as a redshirt. I think that's gotta be some kind of a record. I mean I don't know if Guinness Burke would officiated or something but I it's gotta be some kind of a record. Do don't die. Don't die man. Those redshirts man. I gotta ask you about six savior. When is that coming out? And what are you playing that? Actually six gun saviors. It's It's kind of a B. movie but it came out Some friends of mine who produced in acted in the film as well. I met them at a at. What was it the Sunscreen Film Festival and Florida Tampa Florida and she? She had asked me to do a part in her film. And it's it really is a cool film. It's it's when you watch it you can get it on Amazon Right now and it never really went to theaters is. It was never supposed to be that really. I think it played in theaters though. Now I think about it for a little bit but it was It was more a labor of love for everybody who is involved in it and they're all hardcore sci-fi fantasy fans and Frank Zeta who's one of the producers on? It is a good friend of mine as well. He is a huge. He's huge in the sci-fi and has actually Written books and he just created a game is his his guy. That's been to all the conventions and he kept telling me you. GotTa do a convention. You GotTa do a convention and So finally I was like wow okay. I'll give it a shot then But that's how I got involved with six gun savior. It's kind of about It's a supernatural western. Where this team? This kind of collage of people get together in the old west and they are fighting zombies and demons and It's a cool fill USA. You should check it out. Yeah it's got a cool factor to it. I love it. Sounds Great. Sounds Fun Sound? Well lastly your midwest kind of guy I mean. That's what you grew up in everything. Indiana and I mean it really in the Star of the millennium you just moved out to La. I mean that takes a lot of guts as far as I'm concerned. Well you know as an actor. I am from the Midwest. I grew up in Indiana Ohio and Michigan. I spent the most time in Ohio in Cincinnati about twelve years from twelve to twenty four. My real formative years but as an actor. I did my first film. If you've seen my. Imdb credits was a movie called airborne. And that starts. Seth Green Jack Black and a couple of other people who have kind of gone away after you know the through the years but It was for me. I was just a a kid in school at the time they the casting director came in and I don't know how I ended up getting a part in it and I was only supposed to work one day. They ended up taking away. My Line and had me worked for a month and a half you know had at scales. Those it was really. It was an unbelievably cool experience. But then I went to school and trained Got My BFA enacting got my MFA in acting and then and then there's two choices at that point once you graduate you can either go to New York or you can go to La on and for me you know if all things are equal. I'd rather be where the weather's a little better you know and and La really is more of a film and TV kind of town and you know the New York New York. Has the you know plays and musicals and they have. Tv shows movies as well. But it's it's just not as much as much opportunity as there is in In La in my opinion my humble opinion. Well I really WanNa thank you for taking the time and talking to us here. I mean I wish you. The Best of luck with Star Trek beyond as a longtime fan of Ozzy rooting for the film and Anything Star Trek and now Zee TV series. Coming up with an all star behind the scenes group so. I'd love Jason or Jj to direct and episode. I think that'd be cool. I'd love to be a part of that series so if anybody's watching it I want to be in on that. Yeah well well. You were in You were in Star Trek Renegades Tim Rice. Yeah that's awesome. I did yet again. I did a doubt again was A favor that I did for Francs Anka who was the unit Producer of renegades. Yeah that was very cool. And that was a fan film actually and You know the the studios just came down pretty hard on the Fan Jones out. I wasn't a part of the next renegades. That's coming out but they I've been told that they've had to remove all the Star Trek Logos In Post the what a horrific job that's going to be the try to remove all the insignias all the references. And you know it's crazy but yeah. That was fun. I I you know I. I'm definitely going to encourage all of your viewers and listeners. To Go see beyond I'm going to put a guarantee that it's going to be the best film of the summer all right well strong recommendation. That certainly gets my vote or or your money back. But but don't come to me for the payback go to go to Burma. Yeah there you go. Thank you so much Jason. I hope we talk again. It's it's great to see and I didn't say the seaward during the interview at all. What's The seaward cupcake? Don't worry about it. Everybody does all right all right buddy great to talk to You. Take care now talk. I'm Tony Salon. Thanks for joining me. 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087: Making my first audio drama: Thoughts on MASTER BUILDER

Artist Soapbox * Local Artists on Creative Process

18:12 min | 1 year ago

087: Making my first audio drama: Thoughts on MASTER BUILDER

"Hey everybody welcome to artists. Soapbox artists blocks is a podcast featuring triangle area artists talking about their their work their plans their manifestos. I am your host Tamra. It's been almost a year since I released two solo episode but so much has happened that I thought this might be a good time to catch up with you. So hello style this particular episode focuses on the development and creation of masterbuilder our first audio drama released in July of Twenty nineteen nineteen. You'll hear some background some tips and some reflections. You'll also hear bits from a blog post that I wrote for already you on stage in July. I thank you Laurin van hammered for the opportunity to post on your site and to be on your podcast. I'll put those links and the show notes future. Solo podcasts will be focused on the new audio fiction projects that are already underway including the new Colossus which is a to act audio drama based on Chekhov's classic play the Seagull a serial podcast titled Jesus Pancake an Anthology of Short Solo pieces and another serial that is yet untitled because it's going to be created by the soapbox audio collective which is a writers group so there's a lot I am excited and overwhelmed and I'm all the things all the time mostly. I'm riding the edge of excited. You did and really scared which seems to be about right so if you are new to audio drama creation or you're just curious then. I hope you find this podcast episode interesting. If you are a pro Dan hack reach out. Give me some pointers be my friend beyond my Thima MMA. I've been making theater for almost my entire life but in the Audio Drama World I'm definitely a Newbie so so here we go with some context as I said in July of two thousand nineteen artists Soapbox released the master builder audio drama you can find a bit at artists soapbox dot org slash masterbuilder and on all podcast platforms such as apple podcasts and spotify the audio audio drama is divided into two acts for a total of ninety four minutes and based on a classic stage play by Henrik Ibsen of the same title the audio drama was produced by Artists Soapbox and the soapbox audio collective with support from the patrons of Artists Soapbox the Mary Duke Biddle Foundation Timothy McVeigh mackin and the Women's theatre festival the production was dedicated to the memory of Julie Roads in addition to those wonderful supporters. Our creative team included a cast of seven actors to production assistance a sound designer and audio engineer to composers and me as as writer producer and director. We also had a photographer photographer and graphic designer. So how was this audio drama drama born well. It all started in eighteen ninety two when Henrik Ibsen published his play the master builder now. I wasn't alive of course but somebody obviously was in my family tree. As far as I can tell Edison's play got mixed reviews. They had an inkling he was onto something thing but the critics and the audiences couldn't quite make sense of it so if we fast forward to the fall of Twenty fifteen which I know is a big jump in time time I sat on the floor of my son's room breastfeeding him sleep deprived and fairly certain I would never make creative work again. It was in the middle of the night and I was bleary eyed. I watched nineteen sixties film adaptation of the Master Builder. I thought the text was cumbersome. The characters actors unlikable and the structure kind of wildly but I couldn't get it out of my mind. I kept thinking who were these oddballs and what what made them tick what was absent doing what did it mean. And why did I feel such an urgent need to start reading translations of Henrik script as a side note. There's a twenty thirteen film version of a master builder starring Wallace Shawn. If you're looking for something more contemporary it is kind of weird which seems is on brand for this play alright several years later in the winter of twenty eighteen masterbuilder my stage adaptation of Epson script rush performed in Hillsborough North Carolina produced by little green pig theatrical concern and directed by Kevin. You're so my obsession had transformed into a theater. Peter piece I changed the genders of many of the characters said it in the present day and masked with a few of the major plot points are really tried to lean into the odd the nature of the characters while digging a little deeper into their psychology. I also regard that old trope of an older person inappropriately seducing a younger person percents because I'm not doing that my version with also considerably shorter new three axis for me now. As far as I can tell my play also got that makes reviews well it got one review in print and it wasn't great by this point though I was deeply infatuated by the bizarre world and and family of character as we head created with my master builder and as much as I loved the stage version and felt extraordinarily grateful to have it produced. I also felt felt like my script wasn't quite fully baked. I yearn to fix some of my play riding missteps. I wanted other wack at it. However for me league given my family obligations it was too time intensive logistically Harry and expensive to whack it again on stage and at that time my interests were starting to morph into the audio realm with the launch of this podcast the previous year so I thought well. How hard can it be? I'll just combine my experience in the theater with my experience as a podcast or and my passion for audio content then I'll drop in some fantastic local talent and Wallah and audio drama will be born yeah. It was a grand experiment for me and that's tennis sort of the recipe that happened. I started by rewriting the stage version for ears only and another side note adapting a stage script into an audio script tipped is another podcast episode entirely. Actually it would probably work better as a blog post so you could see the difference between the audio and the stage scripts. The Short version is that your audio script is going to be much longer since you'll need to say what you would normally show on stage or at least right in the sound cues you can also approach the audio script similarly to a film script because you can cut back and forth between drastically different locations or points of you you pretty quickly coming from theater background. I didn't do much of that switching in masterbuilder because my original priority when I was thinking about it for the stage was was writing something that was easy to put up all right. I digress so a year and a half after the theater production then in the summer of Twenty nineteen the Audio version of the Master Builder Audio Drama premiered at the women's Theater Festival in Raleigh North Carolina it was released to the public the following day which was July Fifteenth Twenty nineteen through all the podcast platforms and now it's out there in the world. This process was both very short and very long depending on how you look at it and who you are it could have been a six month process or one on your process or a four year process and now for some tips and tricks and chips and dips up's not really because chips and dips should not be consumed during audio recording unless you were actually recording someone eating chip as a sound effect which we did otherwise otherwise chips gives you mouth noise and dips give you flam which is not recommended for voice acting eat an apple and drink some water. Here are some random tips use for audio. Maker newbies like me some things. I learned some things I did well and some things I'd do differently tip number one record at least three three takes of each scene even when you don't feel like it and your ears are killing you. Three should be the minimum for us. The third take was almost always the best and you'll want several backups in case you need to Frankenstein missing together for master builder. I divided each longer seen into short singlets usually based on entrances and exits. We recorded three takes of each scene. Lit With coaching from me. In between at the end of the third take we recorded any extra sounds. We might need an isolation such as sipping coughing laughing sniffing group laughter group applause etc tip number two. It's a great idea to record all the actors making all those sounds so record all of them laughing in several ways breathing sighing gasping humming sniffing sleeping harrumphing eating drinking and crying. It's best if they do those during the scenes but it's good to have them record all of the effects again later later basically record all vocalisations with breath that the actors could possibly make it is odd how much you need those to insert in the Post Production Chin dialogue gaps tip number three this tip is for the eating and drinking scenes for at least one take record the actors actually eating and drinking while saying their lines now your recording studio might have feelings about this so check with them. My experience was that if you retroactively add eating sounds inbetween between clean lines. It seems like some random person is in the room eating a snack and watching the show. It's really creepy tip number number four do not look as a director whatever you do don't look at the actors while they are recording the scene as a director. It's essential essential to only listen through your headphones. Allow yourself no visual feedback. The scene will sound completely different when you are watching and you'll be able to monitor for more nuanced tones of voice and identify confusing bits and inconsistencies in the script you might be surprised by how much information formation we receive through non verbal visual cues so an example of that would be a shrug if I can see you. Shrug is a pretty clear answer to a question Russian if I can't see you. Shrug sounds like nothing. Maybe a clothing shift mostly. It sounds like you didn't hear the question or you aren't answering the question at all. It's easier to catch those non verbal response gaps if you're listening without watching and if you want to add in a verbal shrug that could sound like I know that many audio dramas record remotely in the actors don't perform in the room together but for now at least I prefer my actress to be able to look at each other and that they come in with their scripts mostly memorized so they aren't reading that way. The text is there for reference in. It's not a crutch they can look up and connect with each other and that seems to make a big difference tip number five for recording time more is better with the exception -ception of two of my people the cast of masterbuilder had already rehearsed and performed this piece on stage so they were coming in strong and ready and we'd also had add two or three rehearsals prior to the recording days so we could move with a purpose when we really got in front of the Mike's even so. I wish I had scheduled more recording time. I scheduled eight hours and used ten hours. Thank you actors. Thank you chatterbox studio and in retrospect. I wish I'd actually scheduled twelve hours of recording time spread over three days with an extra day scheduled for pickups and some Foley work is scheduled no time for pickups yikes. Luckily my actors were really solid. We didn't need to go back and re record but that could have been a huge problem tip number six. Give everyone a break not not just the talent in my giant. Excel spreadsheet I scheduled breaks for the actors but no breaks myself my audio engineer or my. PA so by the end of each recording day I thought I was going to throw up from listening so intently for so many hours without a break. Do not do that to yourself. If you're the director and do not do that to your staff some other things that I would do differently from the beginning and these are things that I plan to do differently as I start working on my next audio drama number one create a floor plan. It turns out that despite being an oral medium you and your sound designer and your actors need to know the layout of the room or the place where the action is taking place. You need to know where the doors are. Where the people are you still need a set design and general blocking for the action in order order for it to make sense number two. I would build the sound world ahead of time and in tandem with preparing for the recording days. I think it would have been more proficient to run the process less linearity. I thought of it in terms of one step in the next in the next in other words. I had to hear the voices before before building the world. A better choice could have been to amass the sound world either ahead of time or simultaneously with the rehearsals recording days and to be working composers from the beginning to set the tone number three release the whole thing at once. If I could go back in time time I would release the entire masterbuilder audio drama at once rather than waiting a week in between episodes especially because they were only two. It's my hunch inch that people are really into the netflix model of binging on an entire season in a weekend so if there's a delay in the release dates you may lose listeners and they're listening momentum so today is September Eighteenth Twenty nineteen eighteen when I'm recording this episode and I can tell you that masterbuilder audio drama has been listened to all over the world and in most of the United States our download numbers creep up every day as a theater maker. It's been very difficult to be patient with listeners getting around to finding finding the time to sit down and listen when he's alive event like theater audience members feel a sense of urgency to show up on one night because if they don't they miss it with something evergreen and lasting like an audio drama that sense of urgency disappears so it feels like there's a constant need to stay in front of potential attention listeners and remind them and keep reminding them that the audio drama is waiting. I literally cannot say enough about our word delightful and talented sound designer edith snow who painted an awesome oral picture to support the narrative and who was very patient with me the actors and knocked the voice acting out of the Park Penny Miles wrote original music that lends mood and legitimacy due to the whole dramatic endeavor and is the music. You've been hearing throughout this episode. Our whole team was amazing and I couldn't have asked for a better group of people. masterbuilder felt like an exhausting and exhilarating adventure in a brand new artistic medium like most things it was a lot got more work than I thought it would be. It took a lot more time than I thought it would take and it was a lot more fun than I ever imagined. Thanks for listening. Hey friends. I'm excited to announce that our second full length. Audio drama is in development. The New Colossus is an original adaptation of Anton Anton Chekhov's classic play the Seagull and it's GonNa be amazing. We have cast. We have a team. We have a script and recording days and we are rolling. I'm asking you to support in the audio. Drama and artists please support support the creation and production of this new work by becoming a patron artists soapbox at patriotair dot com slash artists soapbox patrons turns at the three dollars a month level and up will also receive the inside scoop on our creative process including interviews secret documents and and more that link again is Patriot dot com slash artist soapbox and all included in the show notes. Your support makes six eight huge difference. Artists Soapbox has created nearly one hundred hours of free content made available to listeners around around the world. Please help us continue to make more thanks.

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Dressed for radio: a live conversation on female empowerment and the art of power with Tallulah Harlech

Fashion No Filter

51:44 min | 1 year ago

Dressed for radio: a live conversation on female empowerment and the art of power with Tallulah Harlech

"As much as I think all people fashion never feel like they get to the point. And like, am I really have I really done it on my really day yet? I guess the thing is, is to just dive in and there is a very good phrase. My grandfather always told my brother, which is done all. Hi, I'm Cammi sharia, and I'm Monica Ainley, and you're listening to fashion. No filter where we sit down with some of the lead creatives, strategic thinkers and emerging town around us to interpret the ins and outs of the fashion industry today. Hello, everyone and welcome to a first ever live recorded episode as part of a new dress for radio series, but first, a little note from this episodes, wonderful sponsors founded in nineteen seventy eight by Margaret is Scott is a luxury womenswear brand that stands for luxury contemporary, colorful, an effort to style by the nineties is Scott had become one of the biggest female fashion brands globally. Remember when Kim Basinger won the Oscar for best supporting actress in LA, confidential, you as remember that famous pistachio, satin dress. You bet. It was a scatter. Any outfit that can reduce Alec Baldwin her husband at the time to tears is all right by me, as Scott continues to dress confident, independent and stylish women around the world, which leads us the topic of today's interview, female empowerment, and the art of power dressing and just by the by, so, you know, Kemi and I are wearing I'm going to say one of our finest showings ever definitely. Ehler boldest. Yeah. Thanks, be Escada. The question is can you guess which one of us is in hot pink, and which is in baby blue? Stay tuned. We'll tell you at the end of this episode and now without further ado, let us introduce you to this week's guest, the stylist lahar lick London base stylists, to lewd, Hollick has been something of a darling of the fashion industry for many years. The daughter, Amanda Hollick muse to the lake. Call Lagerfeld to degrade her first catwalk aged twelve that's right to Lula grew up with fashion running through her veins. Then forged an impressive career as sought after stylist and consultant, she's known for her styling work in pop magazine and arena, plus, amongst, many other magazines and also known for her unique point of view, and her bull take on femininity which makes the perfect person to address our subject matter today. We hope you enjoy our first ever live episode and some aluminum. Ques-. Questions from our live audience. Thanks for joining us. Tonight, we're talking about a really important subject, actually female empowerment, and the art of power dressing, and we've picked of into the Hollick to talk to us about this because we felt that she's got a very, very unique sense of self and well, it's true and as stylists. She uses close to express ideas through her work. How much do you believe in the transformative value of what we were? Undeniably, undoubtably play completely. I have seen it ten million times on, on a shoe -mongst, any sort of walk the, the second that somebody immortal or a person embodies garment, that is expressive or fits the most beautifully to them. Personally it's just take someone to being next level in half a second. For sure. So you're obviously British and as I understand it. You have some experience of the British countryside, as you are very much London, girl. How do you marry the two deep question? It's too an I feel the countryside is really because it's where I spent so much of my childhood, and I go back to consistently still because I mean, it's a funny one, I don't I don't think they can be married very well in my experience in the when I'm at home in the middle of the countryside in the militia is getting bunches of logs in emptying the compost. Three thanks. You know, going into the garden picking the vegetables getting horses in doing stables riding the horse. If you wear. Your fancy pans flows for the forget it just it's nice. It rips so that my mom, my brother, my brother and I have knows home close in terms of a sort of secondary, Woodrow of side, close middle can kind of live up to London living that then get kind of send back to the countryside where they wanted, if they get murdered by all sorts of paraphernalia, the in the middle hundred it's not a problem because the idea of being very precious about loads is something that I feel I what hyper vigilant about and said, not panics me so I have Kirsch cycles, London City, close to do not meet, but doesn't that kind of like Nasha law kind of feed into British style in general? It does. And I think that somehow in times of work where and. Kind of death in the wintertime, that type of oversized quasi of I can be in the middle of forest can come and be in the pissing rain in London, and it's not a problem to be completing in an amongst the same. It just kind of does light happen. And I know that kind of very old school Sloan rain dry. Moley are well, we are exactly maybe it doesn't fit me put the two together, and I keep the re separate just doesn't it? It doesn't marry. So when you are in London, do you think a lot about what you wear has dressing become sort of work because obviously putting outfits together part of your job? I'm really pragmatic about why were and people take off me all time, because I spend I have I'm very uniformed in what I wear where shit on the sports where it's because I do tend to work out quite laws. Then I just put on fresh sports were afterward. Black sports. Where is my job? And I find it ripped so many paths trousers and snagged beautiful dresses, being on says kind of in amongst squatting getting down to getting to the middle of trying to fix that bit round. My God, I'm gonna carry that books over that there's a bodyguard that needs. It's quite physical work. Actually, I don't think people. I mean as an old school group of people who I shall not mention than Asterix, Naven, name, and shame in famous stylus name here. I have seen onset, by the nepotism that I'm privy to turn saly sit down under in the latest pencil skirt, and like its bitsy heels. And this they, they on in amongst it like their assistance, who are wearing. It's worth. So I just if the physicality that what I'm like, because of being country gall and doing the compost, and the logs the voices and this, and that I'm in amongst it when I'm in the city on onset, too. I think it's really funny. I mean in my experience when you work in fashion, and have a while, people expect you to walk in wearing sort of perfect. I actually walk into most places looking like my dad in the ninety. Gotta girls actually did that this action. Fuse. But you know it. Because you look at fashion a little bit differently. Maybe they don't. I mean you kind of look the greatest people grace Cording to, to Joe McKenna. They all really uniformed in what they were they have kind of specific get up. They wanna put on and the hard and fast about it looks good on them and they roll out in out all all the time. And I think that sometimes as you say when you to images and you see, I am saturated with so many visuals, and all sorts of creation, icon. I need to keep myself. Clean kick clear. Calm collected cont busy myself because I have to have the focus to be able to understand, whether it's the structure of Koenig axel, the engineers design of a lower and everything that comes into tween. Do you have people this happens to me every day? So I'm asking you. Do you have people policies constantly for their outfits? I've every time I go anywhere with my mother. She's like, I'm so sorry for what I'm wearing that. You're going to be embarrassed to see with me, and I'm like, no no, no, I'm no more. I don't judge people all the time that you work in fashion. No, no. That was not the point I was do cross every once in a while, people know. So my stories I've mom mom, my mom does really interesting. Take Eulalie in the countryside. And I am like interesting outfit. You're wearing this is going on the ground. She's like, what are you doing? Don't do that at the same time like kind of cool and chic. This is so mutual on. It's like is. Interject here for a second is actually brings me to my next questions. So your mother is they bend harlot, who was longtime used a call logger felt the lake or lager filed and consultant she has been named numerous times as the best dressed woman in the world on the international address. What is it? Growing up with a mother like this. We never and also did you always know that you were going to go into fashion. So I wish my big brother was here, because we all cells law a law about mom and saints breeze. Mama. Fall was mall kit on mum knee-deep in whose crap and that is not being MandA Hollick is wearing the tour. The MAC Ghana let me tell you, which, I think knots, the thing, that's so real an honest, and I value, completely why I guess it hasn't been so frightening, we're intimidating having my mom and the glory of her best dress credentials because I do know how much that is on show at such time that people would be kind of dressed up to see that kind of thing. And actually, she's really nor. She's like that all of the time. And sometimes some of these others. Which I try to when I can. And my phone is near enough to me with some sort of tiny bar of signal in the countries. I get it. Get it. She feels I think she's get quite annoyed about she thinks it's quite funny and intellectual now, so did you know you would always go into fashion. I didn't I mean I was very I was I spent if I wasn't outsi- building Dan's and finally with my brother. And disappearing off into fields for hours hungry enough to come home. I spent my childhood in the dressing books and was constantly kind of doing some of recreation of, I think a witch most of the time. Mom dad, and she'd have old fabrics from drug addi studio night, it was it was dream. We had costumes that they would not. I'm going to tell my mother, she listens to mommy. This is not acceptable. That was getting. That was good. That was good. And I, I'm so glad that. Take it to another level. I'm going to say, but it was I kind of gasoline need that was something about dressing and close. Something about getting in amongst it did go and change my outfit. Three times a day. I remember my older cousins to that constantly, so it wasn't like it was always too far away, but I hadn't Arab performance that I used to get out of my system. First and foremost, we're gonna talk about the accident. The acting is all my God. We don't let's get right back when, but no because we, we can talk about we, if you think it's kind of interesting thing and also just so many of our listeners right in and say, but how do you get from like kind of making it in fashion to actually getting to a point where you were working and you are? Yes. Like making money and doing the thing you want to do and fulfilled. And it's funny because I, I don't know if anyone really feels like they have made it. It's hard. It's because, you know you never should have finished the album with the moss apiece, will the film doesn't come out the seasons ton Anton Anton. So you never get to the end, you'll never completed and as terrifying. That is it's also the joy of it in the it never ends, and it can continue to develop an unfold on, I guess, in that question as much as I think, all people in fashion never feel like they get to the end point. Like am I really in it? Have I really done it on my really yet? I guess the thing is, is to just dive in and there is a very good reason. Grandfather always told me and my brother, which is done all sq, don't get. So you just have to offer on, I have learned this, it's, like, if I think that I want to try and do something if I think that there's someone that I want to try and work for, if I think that there's a publication that I can contribute to. I've got to off. There's the loaf. See idea taking the creative industries that it fools upon, you use of walk down the street in kind of a given everything, and the whole thing is dreamy from there on in, and it's just it's so not like that. And I know some of the biggest people in the industry who hostile so hard and I know the ways they do it, and the clever little ins they get, and how they introduced themselves and how they follow up, and how they take that person for dinner and how they buy that are, and how they offer them some. Can you come and do this, and maybe we can do that compaign like it's a thing. Thank you for saying that. For people to understand. It looks as if it. Yeah. Kind of serendipitous lead unfold in the seamless way. And. Of course, who you know, is massive and the abilities have a relationship the people that you work with to be able to get to the next job. And the next kind of credential in for shore, but there is so much of wrapping on the doors and saying, hey, I think the tribe's something really special how about it. It's like you've got to have the idea consistently and you've got to pitch the idea. So speaking of this, do you think that you can actually dress the success? I yeah. I think you count actually I really think you can dress for the job, you want, not the one you have. Is that true? Yes, I do. I feel like there's a law of fake to make is. But I do feel the Somare, it's really interesting at this point within a world on some ticky, kind of infection, and more. So, by the minute, I guess, is that it is an inside job. And there's an element of throw it all on the outside of somewhere. They're the kind of shameful harboring painful things that keep a small and keep us back. That's going to come out. It's going to come out in the expression of self is going to come out in something to do with the energy of holding back. We'll giving to March. However, it is any individual that has these blocks has these feelings about themselves that are hidden you. I didn't think that I think that you can maybe get in the door. But if I think, more and more, so people are beginning to understand. Oh my God. I can't just buy the outfit. I've also got ask myself the questions. So into the topic of power dressing and, you know, I think that all of us would arguably be power dressed right now, for example Tada, but I think it's interesting to note that all of us have taken a lot for menswear in what we're wearing and so is power dressing by its very definition borrowing from the boys like this is a huge and loaded question. But can you power dress and be dressed in a highly feminine way? I do feel like it's incredibly powerful to be within something very. Sensual leading on potentially sexual. I think that that is. I mean. Speaking as a woman for the female point of view, I think the naked body is incredibly powerful, so without anything on it. And so in a way. Although for sure sense of masculine and Giordani on a woman, I find ticky, powerful equally. I do think that there is a set of intense way that someone can dress, I guess the sensuality and the feminity that they have that can be. I mean, we can think of. Might be powerful the wrong way. But we knew the Terry Moog LA. All about the shape in the form and the coverage of those on nineteenth supermodels that was completely orchestrated around how sexy that they were moving on that sense of sexuality that weren't just in a suit. So that fell kind of powerful in quiet kind of domini thing way totally now. Yeah. But do you think you have to be dressed like one of the boys? If you're in a boardroom or an important meeting to be hugged properly fill like, no, I think that this is when it comes back to the inside job. I think if a person is able to hold themselves in their integrity. They know what they're about. They've looked at their dark side. It doesn't frighten them. They feel confident in their expression, and what they have to give. I don't think it matters. That's yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think like the ability to assume you're feminine and feel powerful at the same time. Like, I think this is my opinion but I think that there are a lot of women that struggle with that, and they're when they're male dominated environments, and it's unfortunate, but I, but we're making progress, we're making progress bigger statistics, why. And frightening. But yeah, I think that it's about these about every individual, however they identify themselves as truly sticking behind a sense of, I guess it's the truth of what that Parsons about so that therefore, then it kind of precedes any aspect of what is doomed on the outside. And I've, I've seen that with different all sorts of different people of traveling around because of fashion, and seeing the most incredibly poignant, powerful people able to relate something to me, the in the presence of they associate wrong. They know that they're telling me it doesn't matter actually address. Okay. So to that Angela Merkel. Theresa May Hillary Clinton will be known to Don Scott up how a suit, but in your opinion, is it in any way sexists to be discussing outfits of all female politicians? They're the most putting example. But anyone business do you think? It sexist to be right. Because like this isn't Jackie. Kennedy also were Scott alone. But she, you know, she was the first lady. So it's not the same role. Angela Markle is the actual person in our like should we be analyzing insane. What would you guys thing. I don't think that it's a problem that women use that close to express themselves. And I don't think it is sex is to look at someone's outfit I always have thought that it's an incredible powerful tool that we have and sometimes wearing something that stands out in a sea of suits is a way to get a message across you can be more accessible. You can be, you know, you'll outfit says a lot about you. But I think you're looking at that in a really positive way, I agree in that sense. But when women politicians, let's keep using the example politicians are criticized away. That men would ever be Trump suits, don't fit him his like is anyone ever do trumped for Trump is a very good example, because the length of his tie is. Commented on frequently and say, like maybe to compensate. I want the peace of. But are you insinuating? I don't get my news from serious. I'm very serious. You're right, people do comment on Trump's day too. And I think that this is the other thing I think you can talk about these things without being sexist. It's just if you reduce people to that. Definitely a load of stuff reductive war show. I mean, I guess, when I the thing about politicians is the. I really wanna know who'll their stylists. And frankly, if it's not good enough. And how do the green policy work with lots of sustainable brands and I don't think she's calling in. I'm really interested to know. When I see that showing black nail polish on like that EKO gel. I don't know that it is. And I'm all about the greens of this country. But it's just kind of I think that. Do you know what they need a lot of help and I wish that they were getting it and it's frustrating because I think that actually those people in that position of power. If they dressed Besser would be more, I would, as you say, it would be able to get a message across in a much more forthright position that in this current happening. I'm really interested in what's going to happen to my current favourite in the US while I was about to bring Alexandra Kazuo Cortez up because she looks amazing to her strength, and a lot of ways, but also I believe to her detriment on several levels. I think that there are a lot of cranky. All men who refused to take her seriously at first for that specific rooms also her age, but she's twenty nine but I think also in my opinion or people went to great lengths to find of her dancing on a rooftop, while she was in university, which actually kind of backfired, and yet, just made people love her even more. But I mean. Would thought be done to young male fission? I'm not entirely. No. I think the thing is, is that there's not so much leeway in how much you could. I mean. Well, speaking in the industry, of course, there is, but onto outside population who don't see the new ones of saying, how things fit and tailoring a suit a suit is a suit is a suit. And so there's so much more say kind of ood shoes. She wearing this time we'll necklace and issuing Scottish rain, Charles color. Is it like the so much to go on in the way that women dress that can be Nick departure, and pulled apart so that there are many McCollum inches and items delivered about it? Would you like to style air sea box? Yeah. I'm like, I think so many things in my mind like, oh my God. This this, this this, she's my all about. To like get her. But this kind of proves the point that what you really, really makes it's so important because it's what you'll you'll first impression. Yeah, it is. And it's a powerful one. And when we look back, we look at people who prolific from the pasta so much in this sense of dress, and I do feel like you know. JFK who's a gorgeous man and wearing suit. But that was chic, and I'm just a little bit worried about what this is all sort of got to now, which is just kind of not quite pulling together. And I feel like that's really lost politic's fashion is lost in politics at the moment. I mean. Bomb looked pretty good. He did look good. He's he was into my. We can look. I think he might actually subconsciously inspired. Really looked at. So many pictures of just tell me what it is. It's just like, well, it's like dad trainers that are purposely. Okay, and then genes that are just straight legged and kind of wide and go up high. And then like. The white t shirt that you tuck in it was not that big, but it's like not tight, but it's cool man. Yeah. I read it every grade, and a blazer and I wear blazer to not look totally. Obama would wear this to walk his dogs around the way. A lot of people got Barbara photos of those or his daughter. And, and it really inspired me down with that. You should be inspired by. We actually the way she's the only one that's married. So it was. I'm sorry, Michelle. We wanted to get some styling tips from you. You don't need them every do we definitely want them anyway. Like so chemist on an interesting thing. I think you'll agree with her. Intractable Escada blue suit because you've got kind of loose, silky trouser what you've put with what I'm wearing it with Jesus shoes, which I realize is highly unacceptable, because I got shouts few times on the street, did you? Yes, people. It was infringed told that they were the ugliest shoes they'd ever seen turned around. I said, you have to have a bit of everything to make perfect world. So go on very tough in Paris. Yeah. They all they all that's why in this country, actually when I guess, when all guess we're riding I was told that it was obvious that I was the one who lived in England. Monica was the one that lived in Paris, because she looks cheek and I just look bit eccentric. So if Comey we're going to go in the suit to a red carpet event. How would you what would you change styling rights? Go on give it to me. Okay. So you can't go on the red carpet. As much as when we were at the gallery this morning, and I love them. I often I know we say with. No. Okay. Well, they, they're inspired by the TV line, like a ninety s classic right? The flats the bell ruins Platt. Strappy velcro evill. It's on every function set precisely wound by set designers and Steinmetz too and dads. And, and that's basically, you would need to have point of useful and can heal. That I would probably say needs to be open to an a little bit of something sheeting, will you can't have close to we will ring out on the red carpet, and too young. And because it will look for drew me, go. Interesting so close toes for an older one. What I what you're saying. Severi diplomatic. Yeah. I mean, would you because I love the Taibbi underneath? But would you take that off for Redcar one hundred percent? I would take it off. I also have a major thing about excessive on the red carpet in the motivate fan. I would remove and I probably do something to lie brush. I put it back into like a really tight sheet kind of like nineties have keeps doing constantly, it does look good on Billy all I do or I would what I didn't can guys did you? Yes, I did. Did you now? I copied myself. I don't know. I was actually I do actually think about always looks quite good on the right call. She gives good red carpet. I have another starting our, you do want to keep going. Well, the other thing is, I would give her a very like without fail. Natural looking. I've make longer my head. Harry extensions. No, no, no, no unacceptable. I this is really interesting because I really admire your style, and I have longed to see her with long hair, but she's not personally, but it doesn't look good on me, Californian. No, dude. Not went not when you own a red carpet and sheet in place. I know Michiko for my next red coats. Now, I would like to know if you think that it would be possible for me to wear this suit to a business meeting. Syrus gotta wear grand. Choose the grind shoes. Those on granny shoes that again we mentioned the brand. Really, she can really sweet in that open at the back and they've got a little, but why would I would wear a different shoe business, and maybe I'd wear shirt, underneath, necessarily? I mean, that's something I do think that this only kind of cool about when wearing something new. When particularly in a business meeting, this is the best newest para trainers. But if I were a lawyer like my mother's, a lawyer, would I, I wonder if she would have worn this, I think nowadays, you couldn't as a lawyer in a trendy office? Yes, you're wearing a res to suit. If you're wearing a really beautiful suit, and you can get away with trainers shouli like it's not being married come rash, trainers. Yeah. Clean you don't be raving Gus maybe trainers. Like, maybe stand Smith's that have just come out of the box, but I'm a bit bored of I'm too bored of the dinner. Different. Addidas Neha, new balance. Ooh measure, that sustainable. I love the I actually wear a suit with a. Very plain, very fresh new white t shuttled to and the other thing in winter. If you were pulling back under assault chic as well. Do you recall easily say, really? So it's country add forever. Like a fun since idle time. Why do you think that suits have become such a popular choice of the red cop in recent years? Do you think it was always the case, would you think that radio a trend of right now is definitely a nutrient look back from like golden era? That was about the gown and things have definitely shifted to. I don't know. I mean, I guess it's just something where people are more happy to express a sense of that. It's annoying. But masculine side that doesn't have to show of every kind of car. Of, of the female voting quite the same way I, sometimes I feel sexy. Suit something to match nation. So what does being bold mean to you is at breaking down those gender stereotypes, or is it like speaking about something that means means a lot to you? I would lame bold, I think that being bold is about being. Some fad initially when you said that I kind of thought about being ruthless, which I don't think is correct. Actually, I think that. There is a friend who has come up and homes ation of Hugh times today. L D. Who is bull lie. She is because she just has conviction in her delivery of exactly what she's saying what she means and that being bold is conviction in what you're about what will that to say? I feel. I have one last question for you before we go onto onscreen questions from very patient audience. How do we get away from this notion that if you're working woman, it's not acceptable to have an interest in fashion, or that it's in any way, denigrating frost as women to talk and castle much about what we were? I know it's a big question but I just feel like it's a nice note to end on. I mean. Like you, I have I have something to say about this. I think that if we are going to criticize fashion in that way. Then we need to criticize all sorts of creative industries, we need to criticize art, we need to create it says any creativity or food. Like it's a lot of industries. It's not just fashion. Everybody needs to get dress every day. So that's kind of part of everyone's lives. And there are lots of people who don't have a lot who still enjoy the creativity of it also fashion creates a lot of jobs, like a lot of jobs. I think it's important for us to keep that in mind, the massive industry. I mean I live in France. It's one of biggest industries, one of the biggest employers, the French government is like super rightly really involved in the fashion industry. I mean the. Which is like the ten heading street equivalent is constantly, having fashion overs, mush people over very excited going for the first time choose one time. Yes, I'm excited and I'm gonna meet, which I have to say I'm going on a tangent here. But that is a female political person who we haven't discussed, but maybe that's for another episode super excited. I don't know power suits. It's gotta Monica might need a pow suits. Yes, I'm you should wear house. You definitely need to our policy. I should actually definitely. But anyway, what was I going with? Yes, fashion is important to a lot of people who are very serious very concerned about world. So I don't actually think that it's fair. But would you say do I kind of feel like the question to be referred because my point was, I think that we all know how big an industry fashion, as and we will know that you have to get dressed in the morning and it's not just about being functional. But what I mean says that there are a lot of us who I think, smart and very high flying job in the city, whatever, and who still care about what we want to win. It doesn't make us any showed like an hands. Yes, you'll made to feel as a woman that because you care about your outfit even. Did you feel? Yes. Yes. And I feel like you are often made to feel like you're not one of the cool. The crew like the men if you're going to be worried about, like ooh, does my domi- shoes go with this. So am I, I just think that? Fashioned is given a bad name and I'm not even going into the economy all of that. I'm just talking about as women. I think we do like to express ourselves through our clothes. Don't do two hundred percent. But I wish they could war and we all made to feel small about it. And that's what I'm I'm just wondering how we changed that. And if we can again, I think that slowly as a sense of quantity, comes to the War, I feel like that will begin to happen. And I, I don't know. I just feel like again it comes down to people looking at the inside, and if they feel worthy interested in inspired, and creative, and whatever it is that they feel suits, them works with them. And is that within the value system? They can pull it off and it really doesn't matter what anybody says of how long have you been putting together looking over the notes of whatever this that, and the other that we have to be like it just. Doesn't matter in such a way that parson a woman, maybe who feels like they're being intimidated by someone who thinks that foolish for loving fashion, if they come through with the kind of that sense of being both that sense of having a conviction that sense of knowing what they're about that will completely eviscerate any negativity that anybody has thrown away here here. Thank you. Thank you so much. Does anyone have a question. Yes. Oh, hang on. There's just there's a microphone that we're going to pass around is there. Microphone microphone story. We just want to that way, we can record your quest. Thank you. Claire. I was just wondering because we were talking about in. Industry's fashion is an prevalent on people being interested in fashion being disparaged. But what about when you work inefficient industry, you're in an office Webuye what you wear as judged every day. And web. I if you can't afford whatever designers, you'll being judged or fuel in the right. Vintage style fuel being judged like how do we tackle that as a society because that's also a huge problem for women? Question so true. And it's really bad. And I do think that the kind of rivalry that happens in offices, and around fashion of who's got what deal and who snagged Walt from what sample sale who worked on a shoot and then they go gifted this, and the other. And so they go to leg up in, they got to take home to that wardrobe. It's can be really divisive. And I've so been there and I remember it well, and I remember this whole deal that thankfully, his gone, where everybody would rush to certain high street stores to get Sutton things knockoffs. This will that to be able to be a part of something they have they have to grip onto because they've out that they were going to be left behind, and it was kind of going to be they wanna feel decimated in the office. It was that was that was really bad. And I think that as the look of fos fashion has thankfully really had its day. Leaves it open to people Hugli being able to make more conscious choices. I hear what you're saying about those in the office that it does become this competition. It's hard. I feel like I guess I take it with Intersil when I know they've got that because they hooked up on that job that they got the invite to this cell that no one else knew about. They got that. So in a way that just comes back down to wash his identity. How do I feel about myself? How do I want to present myself? Walk close at good old. Meantime, of what I'm saying and hone in on that the trends. Yeah. I remember having a conversation with Leandra from the mon- Repetto once where she said to be honest, like the only way to, to be to be really respect just to be yourself. If when you dress, you put across your personal point of view, and you don't have to feel that you're trying to merge into everything totally or just to and Westport swear. Exactly. Which used to be people, you fitness gear again. I remember God days. Stretchy. They're amazing. You know who that by you'll favorite person? These p p p. Pheno. Favorite person. Low down with the sports. Phoebe visiting so. People piss out me with, with my sports where, and then they got to understand why I wore on all the time. I loved your was Bleich uniform when people kind of got it into my re-met, but that was this guy. I remember him being, I remember him being a U N fitness gear again. Which is heard, and I thought he said you in first gear. And so then I remember seeing him act, someone's policy where I was really wearing a beautiful dress and credible, high heels, the whole thing, and I remember being like anonyme I Guarany more. What he's talking about. Like isn't this fourth get crank this baby up to five six and stone? Menacing. And then I had to explain the joke, and then he was awful. But anyway, the point is, I think, find the path fine the re fine what works for you, and stick with it. Yeah. Persons. The microphone. I have nights. She read go to question. I've got I've got some comments flea agree with what you said about finding what works for you, and I mean, my attitude to people who look at me, and think I'm over dress may particularly environment is bus. She's it's actually a problem. It's my problem. A great. I'm wearing. I'm happy wearing a what I'm comfortable wearing and the fact that potentially you call a Ford it or you don't like it is not my problem. And I think it's all about individuals which you said in a number of ways as individuals as women, we have to be comfortable in what we wearing. I mean one thing I would say is that dressing looking sexy looking feminine is important, but it can't be a distraction from the day job because I sit on number of boards, and so on said things, I simply would not wearing a boardroom that I would be on the beach. I wouldn't wear over tight skirt because I think it's, it's almost asking for anything happens. But the other things I would wear. I'm comfortable wearing if other people don't like it. It's too bad. Here. That's why Vinningland because I'm saying it again. But it's true, I've, I find the French commented lot about each other's outfits, quite judgmental of one another. And that's why people talk about how great Frenchwoman dressed, but they all wear except to the same thing because they're scattered of standing out from one another. I think there are exceptions. Of course, I'm Jenny massively generalizing, but England is a country where you can walk down the street wearing a red feather dress in nine AM on a Monday morning. No one will probably actually got a few chairs. We were saying great. Yeah. I like the attitude I like the attitude of giving people the freedom to where what they like I just want to go back to one thing you said and I totally agree with you. I do think that today we're getting away. Slowly inching away from the idea that anyone is ever asking for anything in what they wear, and I think that, like I just wanna save at, like I fund. Mentally believe that women should be able able to wear whatever they want. And for men to be able to behave themselves in the face of that, However, I know that, when that being said, it's just not the kind of attention you necessarily want to attract trae, like we all know, but exactly, so what I find interesting is what I'm in meetings, I actually look at men and it's quite true. What, what is said, is that people's first impressions actually quite important, and I have to make myself not discount men because Commanche. Yeah. Thinking which side of the bed, did you get out today and wise, it that you expect me as a female too smart and to be intelligent when you can't be bothered? So but I think it does depend on what sector industry you work in us. What is acceptable? What isn't? Any other questions? Thank you. That was really. Hello. I had a question. It was more about the psychotic part side of it. So I guess we started very, very different people. So how'd you manage to analyze their personality and know in advance what they were like, what, what they will feel comfortable in what an also? Do you have a specific signature g like dressing people? In a certain way. What is it always different? I guess I mean you're thinking, specifically around celebrity dressing dressing, someone for liberties. Right, exactly. And when it comes to that, I don't do a lot of that. I'm more in as to'real, but. It's funny that you ask, because if that did ever become something that I took forwards properly when you become Aeros stylus when I become am. Yes, exactly. When I become ASC stylus, you bet, I would have a formula, and I would absolutely roll out something really specific. Have you thought about it already? My pet hate is. When people. This is going to sound awful. I really don't like I not sure roll down the street in a yellow dress or write one read round pick bird. That I really think that it's such a kind of. I don't know. It just doesn't get me or maybe it's just my taste when people try on me. Humorous different kind of having fun with fashion and doing this, and doing that and doing this and doing that. And I'm like, oh my God, it's just like a big Phuc all inference on the plan icon coat with their I can't cope with it. And I don't like it. So I definitely have always had a thing ever. Someone's asked me, like do you, would you would you be interested in dressings person? It's like, Yep. No that it will be like this. They will look Sheikh. They will timeless. They will look elegant. I'm not playing. They can't play not on my watch. The way that it's going to be. So it's kind of, like if someone signs up to that, my stymied. I just don't I don't I don't play. And I think the lots of people do want that, like I found this really cute thing I really want to wear this. No, you will look ridiculous time you want people to look back at photos of Unio. Holy shit. You look amazing. You couldn't have style and John, for example. North in this nerve. Now, I guess I, I couldn't stage performing. I mean I watched the documentary and Coachella of big Chela performance in getting to the place where she could do it on Netflix. Now, she and she is extraordinarily. But there were so many things why is she wearing the hat? She shouldn't be wearing that. She shouldn't be wearing glitter right now. Like it needs to be streamlined. And chic and pristine, as well as sensual to allow incredible movement of Hubbard to do thing. But I'm like there's all these bells and whistles, uninvite she's fourteen and she's no. Foreigners feel and say we love you. But as a listener, as well, like sorry, sorry. Anybody else have a question? Well, that you can have more shampoo. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you so much to everyone who attended off, I ever live recording of fashion of filter at the Escada flagship, London store on Sloane street next time we promised to open up our live, according to you listeners will be sure to let you know in time to get your tickets. Now, the question on everyone's lips. Everyone everyone we must declare that, as you may have guessed Cami was in his donning a fine hue of blue while Monica opted. For more of that feminine statement in hot, pink tailoring, complete with a ravishing ankle bearing clock pants. Thank you. And let us not forget the heart shaped earrings that kind of remind me of lady. Diana clip on, which has a really cool kind of ninety s vintage feel great job. Thanks, great job, you, definitely some of finest tailoring, definitely a great success. A great success all around me things. Thank. You too brilliant insights. And of course, thank you to this episode's host starter. 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Creating Innovation Ecosystems with Dr. Anton Howes

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Creating Innovation Ecosystems with Dr. Anton Howes

"Hey everybody it's torbert co-founder partner village global aid network driven venture firm and this is metro stories a podcast covering topics related to tech business with world leading experts. Everybody welcome to another episode of village. Globals venture stories on here today joined by special guest. Dr anton anton is a story in and the author of the book arts minds how the royal society of arts changed nation anton. Welcome to the podcast eric. Thanks for having me to aunt by way of introduction when you serve expound when when you look back on the arc of your career in sort of intellectual journey. What is the thread that ties everything together. Or what are the question or questions that you you keep on asking. I guess a lot of it comes down to cultures of innovation. How is it the people create this somebody that people invent things but how is it that people create the conditions in which invention becomes less costly more desirable more socially desirable. I'm just in generally in general easy. And so how is it that you get these kind of fantastic hopes will golden ages. Efflorescence is or whatever he wants to call them from time to time and especially how is it that we got the world in the we. We've been writing. This wave of continuous improvement for the past few hundred years on it's spreading from country to country and utility of our our ability to create. New technologies has been improving. It seems like to me. I know visited to bite this recently but i think ultimately if a pick out a particular thread it comes down to how we create those cultural really really can culture subcultures smallish groups of people who can maybe have a wider impact on society. That law achieved through the inventions themselves. All through the kinds of nolansville means they propagate but really ultimately coming down to these very small bits legal and you spend a lot of time looking at those subcultures in in england among other places. Talk about how how you discovered what your intellectual journey was in discovering that and you or how you sort of came to spend so much time focusing their yes so i started off being just interested in economic growth items. I'd i observed. There's a kind of Weird coincidence perhaps it's just been happening to be Fiddling around with data all jeep capital growth in the twentieth century. I noticed that when the soviet union came into being russian technology seems to basically just kind of stopped at the level that was pretty much the most advanced level in britain and america at the time and so that was the level they reached in the one thousand nine hundred eighty s in terms of captors. Say they kind of have this shuts off where they imported all of these technologies in up to nineteen ten nineteen twenty and then use continued using those technologies and then getting the most out of them such that by the nineteen eighteen. they'd come to begun to stagnate now. Obviously those lots of innovations of eating as well around back With ice rice obviously encouragements awards for inventors. Even if they may not have had quite the same effect as they did in in other countries in western particular but what struck me there is that there seems to be something though something important of political story then but then that took me to looking at britain in particular the causes of how we get that kind of modern economic growth in the first place and the actually. The most striking thing i discovered was that will vote. Politics matters in extreme cases like the soviet union. Today maybe look at north korea. Actually in general seem to match for toll. If you look at britain's growth over the past few hundred years it's pretty steady. It's a one to two. Maybe pushing two point. Five percent growth year every single year pretty much with ups and downs of course but really kind of coming back to that baseline level and that's the same across most countries. That have had that innovation bug of the policy hundred days including places like fraud. So i like to joke. That francis had pretty steady economic growth. fifth republic. So it's it's been going backwards and forwards between monarchy and republic back to whatever other kind of weird configuration of these licorice aims low sorts of different laws and all sorts of different and yet economic growth which morton economic rights is continuous thing driven by technological improvement more so than any other factor. That seems to have been extremely steady. And so that. Got me interested in if we're gonna look at the beginnings of these things. The origins of what we're seeing here is something that became so powerful in. Its first few years. Will maybe the first central who who knows right but became so powerful that once the gene was awful. It was here to stay if the really mess up the country the the innovation trained to stop the. Let's get to the book. Why this book and you're trying to answer Across right so. I think the way to think about this book so autzen mines is that it's a case study of one of the most successful institutions. Innovators themselves within britain created to promote innovation. Right so the society thing. Courage of arts manufactures and commerce the eleven blocks in seventeen fifty four in a coffee house declare themselves to be such a society is now the society of arts is still actually has not full title. But it's often abbreviated. Rsa whatever they create. What is effectively. Britain's national improvement agency originally for inventions. And then kind of twisted to whatever ends that. Its members felt required improvement such as cystic design all collecting botanic. Kohl's specimens or creating new trade routes with the cullen as for britain so and so forth and then decade after decade kind of transforming. The way it does things in finding unique shes finding you gaps with which to fill seven the first hundred years. It's this premium. Giving society gives prizes all cash prizes. All unreal metals of depending on the kind of people that trying to appeal to four inventions. That would not patent. It's a to complement stand alongside the patent system in the next in the eighteen forties and fifties. It starts to transform itself into more of an exhibition holding science a very different model of innovation. Where instead of just trying to use particular prizes they they. They tried to get all of the inventions in the same room. So you can start to compare like with like and you can spark serendipitous discoveries in kind of way as well as well as concentrating on things like skills full the masses so creating examination systems pulsing the mechanics institutions you mechanics institutions all with the creation of a union of connex institutions as what it's all sorts of other means just lobbying for reforms to copyright two patents to all sorts of different structures around creativity in around innovation and then taking that further day in the twentieth century with all sorts of other different leashes that it starts to get into sometimes as random as trying to preserve london's buildings by creating blue plaque scheme. Where you have these kind of say such and such famous lift here this date to that date very common today. But most people don't realize emerged in foments of different ideas that they were coming up with different schemes. They had all things like The preservation of ancient cottages medieval judah ones though being told him down because of new sanitation goals in road widening in the twentieth century. The the environment Sixty i guess. In summary survey in some ways this book goes over. The place and i was commissioned right at i the arce itself although they very lax in terms of allowing me to say whatever i wanted about the institution give my own take on it. I'm but really it's one example. I think of how it is the british innovators in the eighteenth century. Larry credited institution. That was quite unique. Actually it doesn't fit into many common definitions of nikon. Just say it's a learned society of clubbers association. There's actually nothing else quite like it. And actually spawns all sorts of foreign imitators none of which have lost quite so long but it's also a great example of how it is british. Innovators were able to create very long lasting institutions. One thing. that's really striking. I think is maybe comes to special about britain in the eighteenth century as well as the in terms of those subcultures creating themselves in perpetuating creating new subcultures that support innovation. I think they're a little lessons to be drawn from it. In terms of how it is that you can do not successfully and also the long run two hundred and sixty six years the society if you look at the role society that scientific which also have this innovation it when he was founded dropped that a pretty soon after to more than what. We've now cool science natural sciences. That's not that was founded in sixteen sixty s. A again has lost the present day. The how would you try to use. Said there'd been fired imitators that haven't been successful if you were trying to create one of those. How might you get started with right framework to think about it. That's a really good question the to write something this actually. Interestingly since the book came out. I have had a few people get in touch. Ask again invariably inventors when device people in those circles saying in my locality. You know it's usually not silicon valley but in my locality. how is it that. I could create something similar. I i guess. The thing to draw from predictions Eighteenth century the key lessons not just in with cyber but frowns lot of institutions. They created this very bottom up rather than top down. There's been a lot of focused recently on things like in britain. We've had this the new author ordinary people trying to create these new institutions often government funded woman's the old supports innovation. I think there's definitely room for that sort of thing within the innovation. Supporting ecosystem bus. I think the thing that made britain special in terms of creating these subcultures Was the bottom up nature of the royal society for which i mentioned founding the sixteen six days not to be confused with the say. It's cold royal. It gets a mace as a as an indicator of role approval and they always have the expectation that they could get some funds from king. They never actually get any and so ends up actually being a bit like a membership society nowadays to be authorised local societies with the highest accolades for scientists to receive membership accolades for them to receive but ultimately. It's still a boston up institutions they have to Donations trying get membership jews to support themselves in a way that structure themselves in a way. That will i guess. We'll robust to changes to if they had been completely at the whim of the chance. The second you had james the second. All william the third or an or enable the i just lost interest in that institution that could have dismantled of straight up and then they would have been left stranded unable to turn. Thanks so i think. There's something about british Often more robust think. That's an important element when something similar today. We should often try and look what kind of automatic stuff you can do. So the society of the subject of the book. It was from the beginning. Nobody government institution the royal. Any get cited much much much later and even then it's the kind of thing and it was a direct democracy so one person one vote and for the hundred years or so is essentially whoever paid subscription fee of two guineas available twenty guineas with whatever. It will sit. Did how it how it was that they used that fund for the promotion of the public good usually for inventions. Sometimes the the voters decided they would put money money into sunny random. Things will thinks that maybe didn't work quite so well. There's definitely going to trial and error involved but i think particle mates makes it so long lasting is that it had back on. So if you're looking at doing today. I guess you'd try to work out. How role base instution tool to be two guineas. Year was actually money at the time so it could have been kind of club february if ritual off people whereas today you know there was actually a for most of its history wasn't actually keeping subscription levels up to inflation so it was still two guineas even in the early twentieth century when they finally started pegging it to inflation. Now it's about one hundred and selling hounds year which is kind of when they updating the debate is much much more inclusive in that respect. But i think that's actually a decision that would you will you to try and create something similar today. You want to look at okay. Well what how exclusive to actually want to be. How much decision making do you want to best in the populations law. I think a lot of organizations take pride in having very large memberships and actually the site itself is so much that has thirty thousand members which is much more than that. I had missed history but it was. I would say very successful even with memberships in the low thousands two thousand seventeen sixty s around five thousand bit more engaging eighteen fifties and sixties. So i think you can get a long way with small memberships again smaller groups. I think it's worth thinking about designing similar things today. The we talked you mentioned silicon valley compare and contrast sort of some of the stuff. We've been talking about in in britain. The rise of silicon valley certain certain cultural or institutional norms or or structures and certain things that is a lot of listeners could could learn from from studying britain and then more broadly. us to get into this idea of decreasing ecosystems in general sense that a lot of people have been saying how do we create the next of aalyah in x. y. a. Place over the world is the wrong question or or first. Let's compare contrast And some of the work. You've on britain and then let's talk about creating innovation ecosystems more. Broadly i think the main difference between someone like the cabal and britain minus money in silicon valley It's it seems historically that it's relatively is probably the easiest has been to get funding up front for for project. That could be quite speculative. And i think that would have been extremely difficult in the eighteenth century. Unusually they're relying on reinvested profits from existing businesses. They rain weena loans from a neighbor or partnership with rich lawyer neighbor who had some property income will maybe dowry you know Bolton and walls they benefit a lot from the fight that altern marries into money in fact since recalled that he was meant to marry one of the sisters so the sister of his eventual wife. The sister died in soviet some favoring the youngest sister again kind of following the money and then using that for the creation of the fact very famous factory birmingham factory. So the in terms of the i guess one way to look the industrial pollution and a of the centers in their operating onto that constraints the yes. They can get funding but it's often extremely limited at least by. I'm open standards. And also the kind of support systems that they have certainly not as good when it comes. Its usa bolts so the patent system Did not last that long by fourteen years was the norm in the eighteenth century. Very very badly enforced. No you'd have to take the costs To to do it yourself. Who you to basically pay for is to go to different factories. were count. How many of your machines being used and then trying to bring a case against them so as well as being extremely with a effectively people like walter. Jumble wilkinson song. I'm just kind of exceptional in the sense of even going around in than sitting people a passenger side. Yeah i that is in those sums although they creating the institutions to support innovation a lot of the changes that a coming up with the kind of happening on the fly a lot of the reforms. The patent system for example actually come from inventors themselves will their initiative than the state's responding to those petitions. Please so i guess there are some lessons. They're actually silicon valley today right. There's all sorts of different initiatives and problems with a space constraints rent and so on the site difference the sorts of things that people would have to worry about in eighteenth century when things i land so these things have been relatively abundant. That said you've also got. I think i need a surf in the in the industrial pollution. You've got a lot of different hubs and a lot of different centers. I think london counterintuitive Counter to the little people tend to think about industrial pollution is actually the main center for invention. People tend to think of the north of the midlands things in does actually does of production sensitive inventions into the london. And that's probably not surprising because london absolutely massive compared to pretty much any other city in the country Many many many many times launcher the next logical city. Most of the time. And so that kind of hub is extremely important. And yet you'll sony eighteenth century style to see this diffusion of helps ups where places like birmingham famously will also somewhat famously as well as various other regional centers starts of pop up and have their own mini hubs often connect it sorta tundra interests the london wounds but also kind of having a life of their own. I think that's again one of these. Other things makes things quite robust in nowadays. I think that's a. That's a tendency of people to focus on particular industries and say you know silicon place where all the innovations are not quite true right like we actually have a pretty ruled spread of inventors innovators over the country. But the world. Lots of different hubs of specializing particular industries. A maybe at the cutting edge in terms of improving those industries even if they're not working industries that a brand new and exciting and shiny Potentially of having this kind of weird looking it so the volume trying to recreate it the second western whereas actually we may be looking at the sort of more minor hubs and actually pre shedding for the fact that they all they all still hops. There is still quite actively coming out. You mentioned that the first question you were really excited to answer is is how do we get economic growth. There was history of it it in in understanding that history as well as you do. What sort of misconceptions you think people have or where do you think people don't fully appreciate about would lead to it historically and perhaps what might lead to more of it in the future but whereas the conversation a little bit of there's a lot of cases actually thought i think people have a inch have an intuitive often role in the stunning what growth is first of all. I think they tend to think acquainted with stuff Which is why you get a lotta people who worry the infinite growth. Is this weird thing that you could never ever have that. Our planet is finite some people think that growth is intellectually growth is value so it's measured in value. It tends to be Equates it with a we is kind of jeep. Capture is is our best measure. I think still the trying to work out. How living standards are improving. And i think they track it fairly well. we're actually. They'd probably radically underestimate improvements to the extent of because they don't really take into account things like let's improvements will the addition of new products song. Because when you put things in real terms you're actually trying to create a single unchanging basket. You have to keep rebasing it. All of the time as new things become commonplace right so you know in the allstate of goods when you account for inflation. Nowadays you can have things incident. Tv will obviously those dunedin exist a few decades ago a few centuries ago and yet so when calculating things in real terms make things extremely tricky insists underestimated to an extent but even so gdp is measured in terms of violence. It's how much how much value creating others when we when we produce things so my favorite example. This is You know we could get beat growth from me taking pipe of a sheet of paper pen and you know my time and writing a story about an eleven year olds english boy who was told an actually wizard and it probably wouldn't be very good identical celebrate many copies and yet someone else. Jk rollings Write us exactly the same inputs and create infinitely more value creating something very similar. Probably better and so. That effectively is is one way of framing economic growth factor years. I think people most people in general deputy appreciate. That's how it works. They they would. I think assume that it's just about you. Know how many calls how many widgets. How many how much how many how much or how many whatever bits of things stuff gets produced not really appreciate the kind of services so of van hewlett elements of it and say that i think also into schools the sources of it when you start to interrogate howard is the growth works. A lot of people also have this kind of intuitive model that you need some points with how to sort of original accumulation of capital to really get going once you've invested a bit in sleep technology and you kind of things just spiraling from that and so they focused on how it is that certain countries will send people might have gotten hold of halloween through conquest through plenty. Listen for expropriation of some kind apps through the gains from trade without realizing. Actually there's actually nothing magic about lose things being used in a way the takes existing inputs in crates me asif them has always been conquest as always being expropriation but very rarely does that expropriation actually resulting investment in something that isn't just pre existing technologies or even just kind of excessive and wasteful consumption. So the key element to how it is that you get. Economic growth is continuous and steady will accommodate modern economic growth. That requires not just invention because actually each individual invention has diminishing marginal returns. I invent one particular thing. We go from plans to practice the once. Everyone's track to every farmers using tractor with not gonna see continuous growth. We actually another invention another one another one. We need more and more things to keep pushing that curve out esso's acceleration of innovation that i think is particularly bolton It all of my right. Try to actually shy away from eating terms like the industrial revolution uneven. Avoid some of the debates that growth because in some ways it can be unhelpful. And say look actually thing. I'm interested in is the sole s-solve acceleration of innovation is the cause of these other knock on effects. And that's the thing that i want to explain and if you think that's an important that is ultimately the phenomenon that i'm now interested in sort of since of the first lecture i give will lick history students his kind of similar. The one thing. You've you've read a lot about newsletter and otherwise is around statecraft and how it relates to economic growth you. Some people are saying that. China's sort of challenges are traditional notions of of observe ideal. You know government structures as it relates to economic growth. Where where do you think they're misconceptions around here. What do you think is important to understand as it relates to stay in. Governance is an economic growth. Yeah that's interesting. I think policy probably matters more than structuring. Some ways so a lot of stuff where he recently so this book to which is kind of It's the same. Projects actually is an outgrowth of the original productivity before my right awesome minds other bits that i've been looking recently focused looking at the seventeenth century. Which actually sort of counter-intuitively advances the actually more successful politically than they are. Probably before or after that and yet the fact they're so successful at least a monks the cultures and in terms of getting the ear of the king and solo quainton and then especially stewart so james the fuss charleston the first and then to a lesser extent shells. Second is the a Things get bit crony kronius. They get the patent system which is created initially as a sort of immigration visa with a temporary monopoly on whatever foreign technique usually was being introduced to the country in the mid to late sixteenth century that increasing it becomes something that's used through essentially royal diktats right. A patent is a is a is an open proclamation by the monarch something that where they using perot powers that suit going around the need for anything like parliament and just saying look. This is the monarch's rights could suspend the lower in this particular way. And just say look hit. I'm going to give temperamental play on these things. Because they're in fulton's and so in a little inventive style kind of of becoming ultra cool bloodsuckers of the commonwealth is. I think once in which an mp in the late sixteenth century refers to the in that stop to get things that aren't necessarily inventions or even if they are patents for inventions there then in enforcing those monopolies in a way that actually covers all other industries as well so there's a huge amount of corruption that ensues from it am scientists of political regimes. I'm not sure there's even anything especially especially kind of special about what the regime ease. Its multitude with how it is that kind of had does affect innovation policy. I in some ways. I would say that actually inventors become the tools of absolutism in the the projects of people. Like also i two turning into an absolute monarchy a relies very much on using projectors or outsiders invented is often foreigners. I'm certainly people who on local take the area that's affected to kind of bring in these. These industry changing innovations and then give rewards rents directly to the monarch and way that supersedes over the oldest structures like guilds than city corporations over kind of rights. That may have been given by parliament and an often used as a way to circumvent the need. From one extreme coal parliament's some ways inventors think actually be the kohl's is off particular configurations even coming about. So that's i guess there's a there's a whole mix of different things that i've mentioned that domestic. I suppose it being that. I think the the text matters hugely and that we also need to be wary kind of policies affecting invention. But will sir how i guess. Innovators and inventors effects policy. How it is that they can. Maybe bring amount particular political regimes would. What are the big debates in it whether it's looking historically what's led to to innovation or or whether it's looking forward as jews or ecosystems cultures governments that innovation like in the field. You know we we look at other historians of Invasion would y'all have a argue about epithet differences of opinion whether it's matt ridley or solar or or any of the others are questions that you're still trying to answer. I mean people like ridley. You'll joe care will feature mccloskey. I think in some ways so people like mccain mccloskey at on netflix in a similar tradition to them in that i'm in terms of looking at the in revolution this period. All of us kind of think there is agreement that the acceleration of invasions of to explain the certainly taken from them certain certain kind of facts key facts you might call them a communist coop stylized facts about the period from which we then have to kind of the things we need to have used the building blocks to then build theories around things like the innovation of acceleration affected not just leading industries like cotton coal unstained engines wine but actually every in any industry In the country seems to be an effective maybe more industries you get a lot of innovation that's from similar soul Different fields and everything from agriculture. To watch making to Inventors study to solve applying improving mindset. A cooler to things like letter writing the heritage. Is that we organize the the choir the church to sing hymns Invention seems to be this kind of tidal wave that effects and all industries so that's kind of one example so the importance of innovation the widespread way that in innovation to the country those some of these basic agreements and like i guess it calls of those points of agreement i on some of these other people In that kind of campus toes we focus on culture i think. More accurately subcultures all ideas gnomes institutions. But in a kind of more informal by rather than just the formal political institutions like the little like the structure of the government saw as being probably the more important things we need to focus our attentions and from the slightly amongst other historians who look period differ on my importance of things like economic incentives with people. Alan probably disagree with a lot of people about the importance of certain changes to trade patterns the the atlantic on me sunny little agreement there as well but in terms of the more important thing that we should be looking at. I think that's a bit of disagreement day and then when it comes to people that makovsky i think so she has this this this theory that we're kind of a multi live in a mental model of innovation the innovation as this sort of thing that happens naturally if you kind of take the boots of the neck if you would think the nineteenth boots boots in the face right for nineteen eighty-four if you had to kind of take the stone on the grass and things will simply naturally grow that if you provide dignity if you provide liberty prevents us than people naturally innovate whereas i actually disagree with that mobile and think that innovation is actually extremely rare thing. Very very few people to it's a bit like a sort of weird hoping that starts to spread from person to us and amongst very small group of people and in that respect i guess i'm removed similarities with someone like joel mckay. Who does focus on. He likes to call tier human capital. So is actually the very top group of people who are shifting innovation from ti outwards. Yes the skills in the populations the whole extremely important the facilitating back but actually the number of inventors and scientists quite few. And so we need to study that relatively small group onto a wall going on. But even in his case he has displayed qassam in light Norms was he likes to cook industrial enlightenment. I think even flying for might flights i think. Even that's a bit broad. And i think that in some ways you see that exhibited 'love' europe and he has his most recent book cultural craig's this a theory that says actually yes. All of your is experiencing these changes box. Written just has a few other factors. That just makes it a little bit more precocious than others that had britain not existed made. You've had something very similar happening in a different way. Pats will slowly pass nose in someone like france and germany. I think probably probably agree with that because you actually do get invention throughout the period. Actually britain in the sixteenth and seventeenth century says relatively quickly. Scientific it's on the periphery of new advances often. One of the last places in europe to get them and so yeah. I think he's a some of the ways in which differ with some of those authors of ridley's actually read fully the latest book. But where. I suspect disagree with him on things. Like invention versus innovation. This is one of his big things. I'm taking the economics of particular this distinction. The invention is coming up with the idea. And and maybe what is actually. More isn't so much that people come up with new ideas. It's the application to the society as a whole hugely because it comes from economics this is focusing markets but actually i think innovation invention personally i think almost indistinguishable the simply different pots of the same process. And the most people actually use those two. It's pretty interchangeably. I think in some ways actually analytically quite accurate really. What we're looking at here is marginal improvements but also of different domains outfit could be improvement process. It could improvement to the design of the product could be improvement to the way in which the product is shipped a marketing. What have you. But also that may not even be a market process the tool that a lot of innovation effects government services for example the howard. How well organized. The postal system is which is another of the innovations of the period so subtle differences. I guess how would you describe deirdre. Mccloskey's core contribution to literature. I think mccloskey is one of the key at least so that mccloskey is extremely long career of making really important contributions to the economics. Echo history From things like the the debates over whether or not britain had this kind of decline in the late nineteenth century to enclosure debates To the introduction of using clay metric measurements in the field. A toll in the seventies and eighties mccarroll Spearheading that In terms of the. I guess you really asking about later. Maurice works with bourgeois. Didn't see before the quality mega books she has recently mcnamara opine. The she has has released. I think the key contribution for me having read those books is about. I guess getting those really fundamental building blocks which i think the theories that we take seriously by the industrial pollution should kind of satisfy those conditions. So as i mentioned things like what we need to be taken seriously here is the acceleration of innovation. She spends a little bush dignity. Going through a lot of the theories and questioning the interrogating them shutting Quite work now. The book is about ten years old now so series developed Or justed or try to get around some of critiques. So maybe it's worth some going through a working out how that's changed but i think that was a very valuable thing. She did to clarify those points. But as i say. I i actually disagree with the rule thesis about new once. You take out the things that perhaps don't explain it whilst laughed her theory in mine very similar in that they focus on ideas subcultures but they also different some of their motivation. The writer peter jon who had In his books he instead of focusing on culture and governance and as the topics. We focused on largely here He focuses on demographics geography and energy in trying to understand why certain countries have have been stronger than than others had. How do you react how do you make about. I'm not familiar with the work. So i'll have to check it out but i can. Maybe speak to some of the those theories in general because all shut him come across quite a few of them so things like coal. For example people love coal as an explanation. I accurate straits physicists especially of coal as an explanation of industrialization because as a kind of appeal to particular constraints being lifted once. You unlock the potential of fossil fuels. So i have. I have a few problems with explanations. Firstly the to even unlock the potential of colin. First place requires technology and the fact that those things were invented in the first place comes to the middle of an acceleration of innovation. Right co using technologies may be used into putting bolton. I'm not going to deny that tool. They certainly have these outsized effects compared to lot of other types of innovation but he thinks like cooks melting ryan. Your that's happening at the same time. As roughly as all sorts of changes surgical technique to hygiene to other ways in which living standards are affected and actually the application of coal to lots of different industries into heating in particular. These happen very extended period of time again with lots of inventors involve to also invoked with inventing things as well in some ways i say the the use of coal in the unlocking of these constraints is more a result of the acceleration invasion one of its many results rather than kohl's but also i can say a world in which maybe we didn't unlock. The potential of of coal would growth of being slow. Yes being lowey. Also you probably yes it. It unlocks a lot of potential in terms of getting around the basic land constraints that we instead of having to deforest the entire to the british isles. All majorly than place strain on forests in the rest of europe especially the baltic overlaps north america that we could dig down instead of taking instead of spreading out that we could devote more to other uses. Such as to textiles will to food production. But take it which we could then support much high populations and then from his high populations get more innovation and just all sorts of other benefits from goma. Ration- concentrated these people as well. But as i can also see a powerful could've taken where cohen existed could we've also had all sorts of living standards improving innovations absolutely. I think that's maybe root for someone to write a kind of alternative counterfactual history book torn explore. That would have even looked like but you know a lot of other materials that will become increasingly common. They didn't necessarily rely on coal until much much later. All the sorts of things that could have used alternative fuels like pete like bio-mass. I am so turning woods turning wood into charcoal than using that and also the half being calculations dump economic historian workouts workouts. What how much would it cost british. Gdp per capita over the long run hats. We have to impulse afew from the baltic rather than having these domestic sources of coal and the the impact doesn't seem to be all that great. Now i think some of these calculations made revisiting is a paper like clock and jack's look up missouri interesting approach to just trying to work out. How how you quantify. What is the effect here. A given the next best alternatives right so to use imported would instead of using coal. The impact doesn't seem to be especially huge up. So i think nine percent which is a significant right. That's a big knock living standards. But at the end of the world and is and is not necessarily saying that the the trend of this continuous upwards with exponential graph is not to say that that would have been stifled altogether next. I wanna i wanna talk briefly about. I'm curious where you disagree with. Peter thiel at all in. I'll i'll say a couple shopping refers to but also feel free to bring up any others wanted more. Broadly and i think he's echoing to robert. Gordon's get arise evolve of a economic growth particularly the growth rates and key then credits it to combination of regulation and Culture that we just become way less ambitious or as a culture you know. Nixon declared sort of your Camera war on cancer as someone else might have war. Alzheimer's or is are you edgy. Said we we would never today declare trying to end alzheimer's we've just become less ambitious on a on a national level but also on an individual level we serve deny it by saying that technologies either moving is too fast. And that's going to be great or you too fast. It's going to be terrible but not that it's moving too slow relative to what used to be. What are your optics. I'm so i kind of by the argument from people dietz full wrath. Which is the actually. Things are improving pretty much citing rights as they had when it comes to technology but that growth is being lowered by various other factors. Most of which we actually chose voluntarily. I'm so he's applied this to the us. I'm not sure how to fix translates by the rest of europe but it seems as though quite a big chunk of the growth slowdown down like golden has identified is really do to things like demographic factors that we have fewer kids in which means if you have less of a labor input because there are a few additional people entering labor. Full time every. Excuse me then you're also gonna hap lower outputs as a result. But it's not as though we we didn't choose rights. It's us making the choice to have fewer kids because you know maybe we just found you out time will. The relative cost of having children has changed because of the potential benefits of leisure and so on travel in eating at restaurants and that kind of thing which is something. We've long known about as a in work by gary becker. Kind of applying economics to the family and to those sorts of decisions. So it's things like that part of it's also the kind of we take a lot militia time we work less in many ways overrule people retire. We spend longer in full time education. So in terms of the total amount of hours working lives will devote to things like production that then get measured in those things. Gdp that has potentially being lowering again too good right the fact that we get militia time the fight that we get otherwise significantly militia times and the in any of the recent past in fact we even have two days off of the weekend is actually quite historically when significant used to be used to base could be none. Those are the sorts of things that are good but they have this effect economic growth at least in terms of how we measure it and so his argument is that we should in some ways. Relax that said there are of course things that we could do to improve economic growth rates. Whether all it's this isn't little pangloss in thing to say that everything's fine. Relax which should i think's still be worried about the rate of change for progress. We should be constantly. I think our ancestors did try to reinvent institutions that support innovation. Fool the present day if they seem to becoming unfit for purpose if they don't seem to be quite pulling their weight trying to focus all sorts of reforms that may enable things lobby for things like for example more efficient land use so for example trying to look planning emissions in zoning restrictions on the effects they may have when economic growth and vacation general near the ability of people to cluster into cities in half these great obliteration facts. All of those heard there of course barriers identifies as well. But i. I definitely don't take i guess i do take it seriously but i don't believe this theory that we run out of low hanging fruits that we've kind of just mind all of the all when it comes to certain types of technology. That's it which seems to be golden stasis. We've we had these big leaps forward but that was because the realm of what was physically possible as now being explored in particular ways where now running out of those things. And so we're gonna get this Stagnation i just don't buy that. A toll daily racing to be saying new things that have completely pushing out the boundaries of what it is that we knew was possible in the same way that you know to the people of the past right if i showed them i phone. They kind of lose their minds. Because it doesn't even seem like the world. The laws of physics would have even allowed for these sorts of things. Tweeden exist. I think we continue to see that. Advances in genetics things like genome sequencing anything. Anybody expects equate so rapid as it is now just a few ago and the kind of potential unlocks things like how our ability to treat disease to to find cues till sorts of other things. Well just as example say more about the culture the critiques that beer and others have had. You wrote a piece about statues. A one point where you think. We need a change in culture or whether there's merit twitter right so yeah i guess one thing to be wary old people funny inventors for for people who are who excited about invention is that we need to. We do need to actually think about. What kind of cultural subcultures we want to create. And i think that was often very conscious. Effort throughout the seventeenth. Eighteenth nineteen th centuries to do that seventeenth century. A little bit focuses on. How do we get away from the reputation we've created for ourselves as inventors ronnie's of the state these suckers of the commonwealth. How do we actually get people to the people. Not just the monarch to take innovations seriously. So i guess you could. You could if i kind of it out. Briefly the sixteenth century is when inventors in england's are trying to get elites mercantile elite. Go money and the state who could give them the privileges and the kind of dispensations and the from regulation in patents and various other Things to kind of ease. Ease the passage of a various projects innovative projects to get those people to take them seriously unto value them as experts as innovators then in the seventeenth century off. This all goes completely terribly wrong. I'm with all of the attacks. You get impala mental monopolies of monopolists. A lot of in some ways culminating civil. You've then got this project to cultural project to try and make inventors project as they come to derisively be known Be seen as being valuable members of the commonwealth as people who actually creating inventions that the increase leading for everyone and all just these kind of pernicious plays and then in the eighteenth century. You've got the creation full of these other institutions light society of arts right the use of metals to try and get people who who wouldn't necessarily be inventors usually so the kratz or people who want to demonstrate their inventing things full the public just for than pecuniary gain. That's a cult project in creating institutions. Raise the status of people who are pushing the technical from and then that kind of goes even further in the nineteenth century where you get these projects to for example value inventors historically so lots of statues of inventors popping up over the place in addition to the statues of generals and politicians to try and sign up. These are also people who reported back ultra. So you get for example. Lots of people who are interested invention trying to get a statue you put up to gutenberg to celebrate printing and he mentioned the printing press. Just really focus on heroes. If you like the people can rally around and try to emulate and it you see this especially eighteen sixties with things like the publication of sunny smiles is book self help and one of the most popular books of apprentice at the time during the Printed at the time instant best-seller pretty much and it's basically just the story various inventors pulling themselves up by the bootstraps a becomes the source of inspiration to a whole new generation. Does now. that's the thing is in some ways myth making and may in some ways. Pc is being you know when people look self-help by samuel smiles. They say yes some ways. It's important historical documents. Because he actually did go into little people got a little pretty interesting traditions and actually put that down in writing so we can use it in some ways historical superbowl so be very careful. Because he's agenda here ease that he is an invention cheerleader that he is someone who is trying actively to get people to become advances. And so i think those sorts of cultural projects. We need to take very seriously my aunt. To be honest. I see that right a lot of the people the fact that you are for example interviewing me and the fact that you've got people commenting on culture like -til Like I guess we'll tangential people china cow in the fact that you've got people people like patrick Stripe commenting all the need for something like progress studies a whole new field potential multi disciplinary projects. The takes these questions seriously suggests to me that actually this project is you'll see being the current generation of inventors and the jailings is taking up that mantle. Again having to to catering to the specific current context right that the kinds of solutions. I think we see today. I need to be informed by the history but they can have to different given. The things are different that kinds of culture that we get the kinds of critiques. You've got right. I know this kind of rivalry between tech journalists and technologists time with of grousing. About what will want thing about the other. Those are exactly the sorts of battles in it a different way or challenges in a different way people who seventeenth century. Let's say a worrying about when the satirists deriding them for being projectors with your sorts of crazy schemes. The that he's because i see you've interviewed shining examples of of the cultures revolving and beginning to evaluate that i see that as bundling reactionary in some sense but it supportive of it but sort of responding to a lot of culture which is sort of like you know guilty. Jeff bezos I'll tell you sort of like anti-capitalist an anti western and his in fact been sort of institutionalized at the university level you someone once said that progress studies is to neoliberals. What gender studies is to sort of the far left and hit. That sounds very seems sort of stark contrast to many of the other disciplines that have seemingly invested other disciplines Anti capitalist rhetoric. Do you not see it. See it that way or do you think about no. I'm not sure you said that way. I think the success of progress studies is partly bull now to the reaction. But i think that small something happened after it not. I'm not sure it's the source of it so think it created a sort of bana that also cool that the patrick tyler put out the atlantic created the band around which people could rally who had been thinking this. I think for years and years and years right had a name or label for the kind of particular set of beliefs. All priorities. i guess is is accurate way putting it. They already had so. I think you know with with any kind of sub culture creation. I think you need to have. I guess banners but those banners are often revealing already sort of Relabeling already sort of power in the language. If you'd like to do that. I don't. I don't think it's a it's a reaction or kind of protest in any way against the regular way that things are going. I'm if anything the kinds of thing it's pushing backle more against. I suppose would be the sorts of critiques. That people like being coming up nine. I know that tod account has his own stagnation thesis in some ways agrees but in some ways it's a kind of positive coal to arms to study the causes an account solutions if that kind of thing is a problem and actually what's interesting. Is the stagnation thesis. Even if i disagree with it but it's actually in a way being useful in exactly the same like a useful myth in exactly the same way that the myth of the adventure in nineteenth century may have been a useful myth. It could have been complete young true but if they got more people to the inventors or if this nation has got more people thinking about creating institutions to get over this problem i think sometimes identify problems that al there can always be good right you know of course enter the market recent. It's it's time to build blog post. Tanner greer this writer wrote a blog. Post basically saying that the reason we we're we're not a culture that builds is because we instead our culture that asks. Can i talk to the manager. Tries to spend so much time could be trying to convince management as opposed to focus on building either fighting over you know the scraps of a limited by rather than expanding pie and it sort of might theory. Is that like to crude on it. But like the meek have inherited the earth in the sense that like mark zuckerberg is not popular like jeff. Bezos is not a lot of these inventors. A lot of these companies are not popular deboer you. They're they're not seen as by by half or even but even within the tech industry as sort of these people who are giving you know unequivocally good stuff to the world and there is this sort of just resentment politics that has sort of taken over culture an infected institutions. And i think that's what feels perhaps commenting on it. I agree progress. Studies is responding to to to to the deal. Critique of dr provide an alternative but it seems that this is gaining power in america and being exported globally. And i'm curious. I've described it in very broad strokes but it's a critical theory. Apply plights everything. I'm curious if if that all resonates or or if you don't see our yeah. I mean it's interesting actually because i think that sort of critique. Laurie exists actually very small but vocal group of people right. I think in general if you to pull the populations a home he said. Do you use like facebook. I think most people like yeah. Love it with google right. This is just a thing that people use all the time. they're like. Yeah it's it looks pretty well. I'm relatively positive towards the company. Maybe facebook less so it gets a lot more. More flack things. I think google in doesn't have it quite quite fast. But actually you know i think in the general population is relatively relaxed about these things. The same with uber. I reckon if you it's a poll publishes a whole Relax with it. They're actually repulsive amongst the literati people who tweet the most people who are engaged with politics the most who write the most i guess amongst those those sorts of people. Yes you do. See this kind of skepticism. He digs questions sometimes rightly so they're all infractions in the same way in seventeenth century. You've got to take seriously critiques. Monopolists i think. The critiques into -nology could be similar. But we'll actually one thing one thing i'll come back on which was very interesting that you said this idea that we could Agrees idea that. It's asking the manager. Wilson interesting to me about fats actually is actually asking the manager as much ram vicious than just trying to build something yourself because when you asked him managing you trying to get a change. What you're trying to do is you're trying to create a framework that applies not just to. You'll let me know just to your own activities but everybody's activities right so when you lobby for reform to the mall. You'll try to be something that changes the entire structure of absolutely everybody in every single way. Now that's interesting because you only really start to see those sorts of lobbying efforts amongst groups society of arts in eighteen fifty with the influence of talionis them benham's jon stewart mills acolytes. Who feel that when you do good. It should be the greatest good for the greatest number. Should be for everybody for the masses. When you try to get souls when you're trying to get reforms through in the same way. I guess in some ways you could maybe see that. Although i think it's less direct the geology of this idea with the shift to exhibitions versus which millions people can attend the sys- using prices. Which may be affect a single inventor. Maybe have this particular effects on a very small industry rather than having these nine nationwide raven wilt wind fat. So what one thing. That's interesting about the kind of building movement is is in some ways we should maybe dial down the ambition the terms of what we want to do with it. I guess this obsession with scale the time when it comes to new to and maybe we should celebrate the fact that actually a lot of the time coming up with a new technology has a very local effect. Maybe it's still going to make you famous. Maybe it's not gonna make you super-rich but actually can have a huge amount of good. So i've been reading about projects of the the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries worker relatively unknown but actually quite quelling in her tying for a few decades ago economic historical joan thirsk and she points out that really kind of worst parochial kind of boring projects. Unlike the call the steam that kind of exciting stuff in the could have this traumatic impact on england and will some areas of england. So things like growing wowed. When i think of about always think of would rate is from major employers to but growing woes this sti- the blue dye seems to have had this huge impact in terms of the amounts of people that have been employed introduction of a new relatively unused. New crop was the greatest scale in the mid sixteenth in late sixteenth centuries to the extent that actually it kind of seems to affect impulse so much that the government goes goes out on and decides to banish because they would rather it was impulsive. The people pay the duties on it. So even these minor things i think when we talk about building i think we should. We should be focusing on the ambition that we have for that. Yeah i guess. I agree that it's a good thing to have more of that but we should get so carried away with it being this kind of national or international level effect. No i i got. I think the back manager thing is is is smart it. it's a. it's a good counter. i. I haven't heard that counter Anton for people who want to learn more about your work Where where can you point them. Please give give a plug for for your for your next bucker. What what to expect to the future. Okay so antle. House dot com one word is dot com antle household with men dot com is my website. I have a sub stack. Which advice i guess. Every week will vote michael side which is housed sub stack dot com. That's the main way to find me twitter. 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Joker (2019)

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Joker (2019)

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It's not that one uh-huh but but yeah he's written primarily Raunchy Frat boy comedy Kinda stuff yeah and then he comes any does this and that sort of interesting stink yeah overall. I thought it was good if it's a I think it's a very challenging movie kind of no matter where you come from come on this movie when you walk in I think you're going to be challenged by yeah and that's why I think it's good and of course course I mean the the score is amazing. It's the same guy who did the noble sound score. It's gotTa believe in Oh. Is it yeah at some some some name for May Scandinavian could not even begin very androgynous from an absolutely so yeah. It's it's got a fantastic score. It's it's got a fantastic lead actor. it's it's good. It's real good. I agree with all of that it. It is very frightening joker. what do you think about this movie's early reputation of being dangerous. I think that's that's not entirely unwarranted. I think it could be I think so too I don't know if I agree with like some of the takes I've seen for being dangerous dangerous betty. I do think that this is this is a movie that I think there's a lot of people I read some reviews after I got out of the movie and I it feels like there's two categories of people. There's people that like see the trends or maybe they they they know what trends are happening online and in the margins of society and they're plugged into that and this seems like really scary and then there's some people that are not aware that stuff at all and they are destroying. Guinea on its merits as like a joker movie or like. Is this just a cheap like a refresh of taxi driver. No it's falling down. I mean it's one hundred percent this movie. He is falling down with the taxi driver falling down joker. They all have like the air is kind of tale about like you know what can happen. Even if the world becomes too unfair yeah and the people on different sides get so far apart that they can't no longer you know did the here each other's accurate statements like there's scenes here. They're so kinda. ELOQUENT ATS an elegant to how they're trying to tell the story. They're trying tail bio no because like I said if you're not up if you don't if you're not paying attention to what's happening online if you're not paying attention some of the wilder like candidates. We've had Adam these last few years. If you're not paying attention to like the the you know the the economic inequality the rising economic inequality quality if you're not familiar with like the just sorry sorry state of mental health care in this country but I felt like this movie does a really good job of like explaining a lot lot of things that may be people would understand like this is one of the best explanations for why some people are just terrified that people can buy guns right right yeah like there's a there's a scene where I mean I know these earned that spoilers because a lot of stuff happens in like the first action movie they picked a person who's unhinged that eh acquires a gun very easily in a way that is happens every day and he's just not to be trusted with it sure and I I've known people in my life where I've been at parties where like if there was a gun in that situation have been very very afraid because those people were disturbed and a you know had like some fucking devil-may-care like they had some screws loose at the time and thankfully they didn't like your own guns. I've you've I broadly support the Second Amendment but I understand why people can fucking get lose their mind that that these are available but also I feel like they explain you know how if you don't fund mental health it it bites you in the ass and also just the perception of mental health as well like yeah perception of people who we label as crazy but also there's like so like broadly speaking like there's this take on the joker being dangerous because the jokers ochre kind of like a mass shooter and he's crazy right now but I also felt like they they showed a class of person who is not crazy easy they're just cruel and mean and they got their head full of bad ideas but they're not crazy and I feel like we're starting to see like mass. Shootings kind of fall in these categories areas where it's less frequent that we're having truly crazy. People shoot up a place and now we're starting to see people who are politically motivated and they're actually trying to accomplish something with their violence and that's. I thought the interesting thing is because it's it's it's too easy to dismiss the joker as just a crazy lunatic oh yeah. I don't think this movie does it. It's interesting because they they on one hand. Emphatically say this man has has severe mental issues for for reasons of movie goes into and at the same time they are playing with those notes of empathy and playing like like with lack of empathy and they're encouraging you to feel empathetic toward this character. I think to a point but sort of the challenging part to me is going in with a a fairly sympathetic ideology. that you know people who are viewed as less stand the society gets shit on constantly and it's from the top it's from the bottom it's from everywhere going in with that ideology and that shared the ideology with the joker and then seeing where this mentally ill person takes that and seeing the the accident that even inspires and other people is what I think is so challenging about this movie because I can't at the end of this movie look at Joker and say yes. I agree with everything that has happened here but I do broadly agree with the sentiment that sent him on that path. No it's interesting. It's like he's very similar to like I guess like a magneto or a kill monger. that like at their core they have a point yeah a- and then they there's a point where like you know you you. You probably can't identify with them but I feel like that. You know the the the bottom line is if things don't get more fair in our society. I think we'RE GOING TO START I. I don't think there's anything we can do to stop these outbursts violence and and senselessness because it if you don't give you know if you make peaceful you know evolution of society society difficult or impossible you guarantee violent revolution. I forget who said that but like maybe as maybe as one of the Kennedys but like like that rings true to me like there's so much people will take before they rise up and now you know like maybe they get smashed as I so many you know slave and peasantry's revolt Taveau through history. Maybe it's a bloody coup and it's a French revolution situation. Yeah I think both of those sound terrifying absolutely but that's the thing it's like. I feel like a lot of people don't like this movie like it's because they feel like it's nihilist or that doesn't have any solutions but to me. It's like my reactionist movie. Is We ought to raise taxes. We OUGHTA FUCK and fund mental mental healthcare and healthcare. We ought to put people in houses and you do those in his back and it's going to cost what it's gonNa cost but the things we buy with that that will be a society where this shit doesn't happen so I mean that's that's how I'm going to go to sleep at night because otherwise this is just terrifying fine because I don't think there's enough police in the whole fucking country even double triple quadruple them to contain the stuff that's going to happen if of course not ten years twenty years down the line. I mean ask Britain how that worked out for them right right like with our current situation right here in America. I it's you know we we there. There was a revolution. There was a point where we said enough is enough. We're not gonNA take it and we moved across the fucking ocean. and we said this is ours now. Come take it if you can find that. Shit's going to happen with with no no release valve sort of sort of thing right because then okay well at least you could you you come across the ocean and you get away from your oppressors. What are you GONNA do now. That's what I'm saying. There's no frontier you get away and that's why I feel some form of empathy for this character and and and I'm I'm coming as movie questioning where I draw the lines because I do agree broadly that you like I said everybody's the the people who are less than insider being but also there's a line somewhere and that line is flexible. That line moves. It doesn't it you you know there. There is a line where there is a warranted response and that response could be violent. Where is that line at any given point well. It's kind of just taking the temperature temperature of the society large line isn't fixed line moves and that's the that's the challenging scary part to me is would would I look at myself what situation question what I have to be in for me joker or for me to be one of the people that joker inspires and I don't have a good answer for that question. Luckily it's never been tested but it could be right and that's the challenging scary thing yeah I mean. There's like it's funny because there's there's some points at the movie where the joker could easily be a punisher style anti hero yeah and then he crosses the line and becomes like a magneto kill monger and that's the thing with magneto or kill monger or any of these others. They're not having the same effect on society right magnesium metal doing his own thing whereas the joker as as an agent of chaos is sort of creating something larger than himself accidentally. Magni don't ever does that right. That's why he's not as scary in my mind as something like a joker yeah and that's the thing like it's just as easy to inspire people to empathy and kindness and love as it is like it does hades and nihilism and like fuck the world joke but not very many people that people that have the capacity to do that. I feel like aren't you know like the Thomas Lanes. Things of the world are essentially heightened by in behind their gates and saying fuck it. We got ours. We end when you look at the social worker in this movie right right right and that's that's who that is and she's getting shit on just hard right yeah. I don't know how much to talk about this before. We get into the spoiler section because like you know there's there's tons more I've got to say but yeah. It was I mean this is. DC putting themselves back on the map. It's also like what what I thought was really great about it. It's like the Nolan verse was like this Gritty Realistic. Take on Batman the way a suit was ways. Vehicles operated the way the bat bat cave looked. It's like Oh man. This is a comic book but real. I've talked to joker felt like that way with joker like it would no smile X. Gas. There's no fucking talking electric joy buzzer. It's just a person that has had a rough road and got some bad genetics and some screws loose and didn't get the help. NOPE didn't get the help and didn't get the help and then found gun powder gasoline and the rest is history but it's it's frightening. It's one of the there's some really tint scenes where you just barely catch your breath because man it could go either way like everything it's it's almost two phase or There's a couple of scenes a reminder that had a lot of the energy that no country for old men amended the anytime Anton Anton sugar would like to flip a coin yet. There's a lot of that kind of holy. Shit you can hear the whole theater kind of grew up I. I am a little worried that no one's going to see this movie because they're exhausted of the climate we're in and it doesn't sound like a fun movie. It sounds like a dangerous injuries movie because there was hardly anyone there like I kind of. I feel like that this this this theater and this preview audience is a very good indicator cater for how a movie does Bank box office wise and I feel like this is. GonNa be on the bottom side because maybe there was twenty people there in their biggest theater. Dr Peter is probably half full okay at the six o'clock showing so okay well. Maybe maybe it was an outlier. I don't know I mean it's still not amazing. I've been packed houses. I mean fucking fast and furious with packed Brian. He wasn't expecting lake in game like that. where it's like not only was the thing things sold out but lag it was sold out two weeks and as soon as it went online but like? I was shocked that there wasn't a bigger crowd there yeah. I mean everybody's been burned by. DC So many times well. There's is that too. I didn't think about that because like I only see movies do you say DC before you say fuck now. I'm not watching another. This really wasn't aggressively branded as a a D. C. Film to it was not yeah. It was like just a like an old school nineteen seventies warner brother logo and also this is kind of in like some kind of timeless night late seventies early eighties past You can't really put your finger on it but it's got that kind of like you know. Though the Deuce kind of feel yeah I I mean that's Kinda. You know Gotham thing right. It's Not New York but it's New York right sure Do you have anything else to say before. We talk about trailers Guinness Wilder Section action. I think I think people should see this movie. Yes so strap-on a flak jacket. I guess if you up your pants and go see it and if you don't don't get it. I think that's an indicator that you probably need to dig a little deeper. What's go. 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I had an interesting trailer experience. I sat down the movie started and I noticed that the trailers were frozen to Jumanji to Albouy trailers. John Sina who killed the babysitter kids movie a bunch of cartoons trolls to okay well the answer and then sure enough. They started role in that fucking abominable snowman. I got to see that before they restarted the joker joker and then it was like ten minutes into the movie and it was like it was like the intro to fuck in Monty Python the holy grail the movie restarted three different times for a finally rolled back and like the audience clap like finally so I didn't see anything but kids movies. Oh okay so I saw the new birds of prey trailer. Okay Okay Win Justice League of all ladies ambiguously this is yeah yeah. I mean they all are this is where I go yeah. I've been burned by. DC Too many times because is not joker like I knew joker was going to try for something very interesting getting even if it was a failure birds of prey not trying anything new not trying anything interesting. It's going back to a Justice League formula. the last I was that was that the one that Jerry little play the joker in which which one was that that was canceled because it's doing all that over again not interested I don't. I don't know if you know podcasting job demands that we see it but hopefully not I I didn't Margot Robbie is not enough to get you get you get your butt in the seat. I mean she's great but no I just watch once upon a time again there you go or fucking. Wolf Wall Street or any of her movies yeah Dr Sleep is the same old trailer. I saw Mika or there. Was this one called the good liar. I don't remember what this was about but it had Helen Mirren and in macallan Yes. I don't remember it was about to but I remember seeing this. Yeah Yeah Yeah okay. I couldn't tell you what it's about. It seems like we saw down Naby. Actually that makes sense. It makes a lot of sense so I don't know I mean they're both great actors. I'm sure it'll be good movie. Ford Verse Ferrari Again Again Kingsman again I saw on my first Jimmy man trailer as old as will smith versus. It's I will smith versus the fresh prince. I'm I'm sort of interested in this. I it's the tech right. Yes it's really wants. The guy shot the grenade back. It Will Smith that well back at old Aswell Smith that he just threw a young aspel Smith I was like okay well. I got to see this for the spectacle loan. Apparently it's kind of like out loop ring looper. You know we talked about how they Joseph. Gordon Levitt the cloning thing. I think it's a cloning thing I think so too yeah. It's something about like twenty years ago. He took my blood he he made. You like to be a better version of me because I don't. You don't have all the baggage that I've got remind had a lot of looper D. N. A. Yeah Yeah Delia cut in your young and it sits in your ass when you're old but maybe it'll be good. I don't know maybe you or maybe it'll just be fun to watch Clive Owen is in it I like him. That's all the trailers Have you seen the trailer for cats yet. Kazan also switch. I don't why would you put that in front of a kids film because it's so bizarre yeah especially and I saw it was such a weird trailer that we actually I looked up the because I saw cats like in my early twenties off Broadway here at Aaron off in Cincinnati and I didn't understand fucking blocking thing like this is the craziest thing I've ever seen and then we saw the trailer. I'm like this doesn't look at all like the things maybe I just you know I was immature and I also the other thing is like I was sitting in the nosebleed section. so like this what you can see just so so much smaller you bring your binoculars cheers or my Amana but then we rented the Broadway the recording of the Broadway cast doing it and is still with with subtitles and no one wants to say and it's incomprehensible. It's a movie about magical cats. Oh they have zero stakes doc. It's crazy sounds like it'd be allergic to this movie and I still after I still can't figure out how the trailer all the pieces pieces of the trailer fins anyway especially and I will undoubtedly see see that time breaking it down but that's all we got. We're actually taking next week off of movies but will be back the week after that with a review of Zombie land into but now it's time to get split here with the joker. 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Bob Iger Steps Down As Disney CEO - The Nerd Soup Podcast!

The Nerd Soup Podcast

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Bob Iger Steps Down As Disney CEO - The Nerd Soup Podcast!

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The health officials were like. Oh sure the kids to test no doubt but it's definitely not movies when whoever's in charge keeps denying that this can't happen this can happen. That's going to be honeymoon. He's GonNa have put every excuse not cancelled. His honeymoon postponed the flu. It's the flu is going around asking shots. Dying up. Should WASH HANDS MASK? GotTa be no science. Now come on. We're going I on traveling the world we're going to Venice on and they're going to Rome. You know the Romans side they get sick the coliseum. You know they can't be they can't be I don't know if I can actually because you know hypochondriac. This is kind of freaking me out that it's right here in our backyard. Germaphobe should get one of those masks. Now I sort of you that the mess don't do anything. You got gloves. Hand to hand contact hand to hand. Write Lawn Dab up anybody. So you're Dafur moms the last time. You Daphne actually not pound air. Pounds live from Long Island New York time for the nerd soup. Podcast starring Anthony J Q Nash. I don't know what's going on Chetty. Just call chief and this is a Lorenzo Stu Warren this movie and Orissa go spiderman Aaron nerd Soup Monkey. My dreams came true and your host. Oh Oliva blue cleared the cake to. I'll say what Lord Buddy Mug pack as I am Oliver here at ground zero with Aaron and Teddy and we are getting ready to Record a podcast. You really threw me off. Corona. I didn't know if you know this Nassau movies TV. I guess I mean as any of this stuff relevant anymore. You're going to die soon so yeah. Santa's your questions for you after you dot com and some some questions. Let's move on from people. Some escapism. Yeah and like I said we have a lot of fun topics. Today we have big Disney Moves. New Moves and news. I guess Bob Eiger stem down. Ceo and his replacement was announced and also star Wars News. That's fun kind of also dry. Well it's always nice to talk about Star Wars. We don't get enough of it now but you guys how you feeling today. Farallon good cold. I didn't know how cold it wasn't until I walked outside today. Windy yeah you probably right now. If you're listening on over weight is China blow down this whole fucking studio but you know that's how we do it here and there to rain or shine. Winder Newton right through it. I got scared I gotTA bring it back up my walk into your house. Thought there was a bat on the four next to your car. You thought there was a hat you see it. You know it was like a verbal thing mixed up on like a stick and from far away like it was a pet united. Sta- light though was dead. It wasn't that bad. Yeah Oh they're monitoring people who may have had it already. Okay so it's gone. It's gone to Pennsylvania Right Staten Island. New York depends a win going. We look your finger okay. Now we'll get a sense of. I can record this podcast. No but let's actually just jump into the first stories take my mind off of this What we have here. Don't say just keep all your bodily fluids for yourself for one pockets please. I found you. There was just a cough. Bob Eiger stepping down as Disneysea. This is huge. You texted me this when this happened near. You like Bobby Bobby. I helping US OUT WITH THE POCKET. I just said Bob beauty know who it was? It was crazy. You Bob Gone While. I think he's built up his head where he just goes by Bob. Yeah that's tough name to take just one name dodgers Bob yet to be known as Bob. There's a lot of BOB is a lot of. Bob's I take a sponge. Bob from twin peaks Bows Burger out. There Yeah Baas Burgers. Yeah Bobby Deniro. Well now but yeah. This was a shock. I was like this where it's like. A Wall Street Dow the stocks going down. They're panicking thinking about by the CEO. Just fucking step down nowhere. Well he was going to retire. He's been he's been talking about this for a while but he never said he was going to do it though when before. I think it's supposed to be like next year Mondays. Like AH FUCK IT. Bam done enough. I'm tired of this shit but yet the big move Bob Eiger I mean. He's overseeing a lot Disney obviously with the MC you the purchase of star wars purchase of Fox. So he's made a lot of moves and I guess like it or not from a perspective of Disney. Just taking over everything powerhouse. He's he's basically made him a fucking powerhouse and you got to give credit to him. I Guess Yeah. I know it's a complicated legacy because if you're Disney shareholder it's like Bob Success. You did a good job. You're fifteen years like you said. Bought All Twentieth Century Fox. Rupert Murdoch was like I'm just going to focus on ruining the country. I WANNA make movies anymore. Saint George Lucas. He's like I don't WanNa Make Star Wars. It's not his fault that all people decided to sell their assets. You know just a good businessman but then you start to pixar right yeah kind of revitalized Pixar. And also Walt Disney Animation Studios. They say was in dire condition when he got there and he kind of helped build it back up so I mean it depends on how you look at this. I mean he's definitely an influential figure when it comes to film I mean look what he oversaw with marvel you know is you still going to have say and everything I mean? He's stepping down to what chairman yet. It looks like just. Is that just company ceremonial until his contract expires. Yeah that's like when they make Stanley executive producer of a movie. Okay Yeah it's it's there because you know I mean he's probably the most successful Disney CEO. He's right up. There was wooded wall to you but he was after wall. You don't want to George Washington on his. Who's the best after George Washington? Well I mean even at the tail end with Disney plus ESPN plus. Because I mean a lot of people forget that. Espn ABC all under the umbrella. They own a lot of fucking shit. Everything's kind of taking off especially with the moves with ESPN with the purchase of the rights for the UFC streaming and things like that Hulu it's the lied under that umbrella but before this past year what what has he really done before this past year and a half two years and came a new star wars EU Pixar. Movie listening. No bump saying Star Wars in seven years ago. Yeah I don't know that the two thousand twelve he like. What has he done just because everything happened so recently within the past two years. Yeah now he's done a lot reasonably well. I mean Disney plus years in the making and obviously the twentieth century Fox was also kind of there was rumbles about it rumblings but his successor. A guy named Bob JAPEC jetpack. Yes Oh and made the joke. 'cause he was like he's like a part of the theme Parks Division. Yes someone so made the joke with Scorsese. It's like wow theme. Well do you think that's why they appointed him just to get back? Scorsese yeah it's like our theme park somehow right on him He well. He's been with the Disney Company for a long time. So I'm sure he's going to fit right in. If you guys can choose what part of Disney wanted to be in if you could pick it either the theme park side or the TV side and move twenty picking definitely movies but it is funny like Marissa's obsessed with theme parks so I feel like that's really really kind of talking about the day Disney Disney nowadays the day pass on pre. It's close two hundred for a day pass to Florida yet. Is We implore Amino went to Florida Straits. Six Flags Branco Canyon for Thirty Bucks a ship. Drink that cocaine before you get there though chugging lawyer they're nice dump it out. Dump out coke. You're wasting resources. They might burn through soil. We only have a limited amount of cocoa as planet But crazy two hundred dollars and get a fast fast. It's like a thousand dollars for the whole family not to mention the hotels. You gotta get the Fast Pass. I mean yeah I mean if you'RE GONNA go you're every time we go to six flags it's like. I'm not spending the sixty two. She's like she's got bad knees too. She's like I'll just stand on every line stubborn. I won't go fast now. Yeah that's it's a prerequisite for me going to six flags. Apparently didn't they have like a early pass where you can go in like two hours before the park opens? It's only a limited like they? They turn well. They say when they're going to drop. And you gotta get on like you gotta be online I and get it to get there early for the early past Disney. Triple it if you follow them with social media and stuff that's when they say that when. Oval. What are we going to go on this trip as a nerd soup thing you'd be a mess in Disneyworld. I Love Disney. It's two very pad could handle Disney. It's a little patch. It's like the city but half the population's kids it's disgusting probably Sticky Epcot. Yeah I've got some drink drink around the world. It's so funny as a kid. You hated up caught but now as an adult psych gopher seven day epcot universal. It's a whole bunch of versus shit. Nash I need a vacation but I think that's too hectic maybe like a knife Aqua Disney common on. Let's go to universal during your stay at Disney. They put like a Mickey Mouse in Your Hotel Room. That follows you wherever you go. It's like the Mona Lisa. But it's Mickey Yeah. They get real offended by that pope. This friendly out now. That's like one of those weird Disney conspiracy rumor things. Look it up. Are you WANNA move onto our next door? You Push Star Wars Yeah. We have new sto- News about Star Wars The High Republic era set two hundred years before the skywalker. Saga private prequel yet. It's it's prime. Time of the jets them at the height of their powers and the Republic at the height of their powers and they were described them. Kind of as law-keepers like Cowboys and bounty hunters in the old West. So was it like like they're worse. It's out there but they never really got to wear popaginos. Maybe definitely because you even see with Palestinians always got these underlings with the red light sabers. So I'm sure we'll see a form of evil force users that may call themselves sift may call themselves. Something else is like it's a religion you know you can be safe and then the next day it's like I found the light Jeddah so I definitely think we'll see some red lights acres but I like this kind of seen. What the were what what they were doing how they were keeping the peace when the republic was at its height height of its power said the villains are a group and they're like very mad Max ish so like rebels. Kinda like disputes on planets. I guess you know settling disputes between villagers. And but that'd be awesome like fucking the Jedidiah Cowboys Mad Max. Once that sounds sick of L. Um well it's kind of like seven. Samurai you know going back to the roots hiring these warriors to protect village and like what they did in the little trailer they put out. It was pretty interesting but I didn't really know like what they're what's the the content they're going to be putting out because it seemed like the they focus pretty much on the Graphic novels and novelization of these stories didn't really say much about movies. I would just GONNA assume that this next stage of Star Wars is just GonNa be this era but going through all mediums film TV novels graphic novels while. I'm pretty sure they're going to do all the things you said. But they're gonNA make movies based off of everything that they made before i. They're taking a break from the movies. But they're gonNA come in the movies later on which. I think is a good idea. I need you take a break. That's the best way to do it. Definitely it kind of reminds me of almost a new fifty two reboot where it's everything that just happened. Everything you saw still can but we're going away from that and we're giving you new novels. New Comics slowly. Introduce you to this world and then we'll give you the big blockbuster movie and the director of JD. Dillard the director of Slate Independent Superior Movie. That came out a couple of years ago. There's rumors that he's developing star wars movie so you have to wonder if it's going to be set in this timeframe. I hope it is always a Yoda. Does your to have a rap sheet is. They won't know what Yoda's done to be this Almighty Iota. While we might see more of that in this reboot type thing and we also might see it in. Mandel season two with baby. Yoda getting tired of the same. He's the goat. I WanNa see what he's done more. Do you want to see? This is second jump in clone wars. You don't think he's now bunnies but yeah but imagine two hundred years younger. Yoda type of Bundy's could have now. I mean yeah you can move but I mean really that goes you. WanNa see the chlorine count. Yeah I feel like they're I feel like the Gash them. You want your birth certificate You think we'd see him like You have to right. That's that's what everyone's talking about no waddling. I don't know if he's GonNa be the main focus and if you look in the video. David's story board or a whiteboard with ideas and stuff and one of them or multiple main characters or something along those lines so I think I think I would like that they focus on like an ensemble and so it's not like a day are but he's not the focus. He's like a guy so they had that whiteboard of ideas right yes. Some of the ideas were like competing houses. That'd be cool. Like game of thrones type shit dinosaurs. I mean we always say. I'm glad we're getting what we want. I mean at least myself. 'cause we always wanted them to strike from this Skywalker saga and and get into the Djeddai. I mean skywalker. Soccer did is is what stores based off of what we know right now but I do want to see him branch off and get away from this. I think with even the Skywalker saw. I don't mind them that they keep going back to that era. Because I feel like we don't have a lot of great movies in that era you know. It's they tried. You could say we have two great star wars movies and the rest of them are may be good and then the other ones aren't so good so it's I don't know I feel like it's untapped and then people always say you go away from Jeddah and the force will then. It's just star trek without any of the political nuance of Star Trek. It's just I'll just watch star trek if I want weird alien creatures and exotic panics right and if I want something that's something that's actually well written. Because images comes off his goofy some of the lesser episodes of Mando was when he was just kind of on his own. Were nothing to do with the story just underwhelming but I like you said I'm a fan of this. Yeah I think you can do both in terms of kind of getting away from the force but still having like. That's a mando. Does they kind of got away from Jeddah? I in the fourth and things like that but yeah baby iota. Who's sprinkles it in every now and then but it's not the main focus so that's the best of both worlds but with this. It looks like they're going big time with the force. Yeah why not just have to do what we wanted. The prequels with the Djeddai in the republic just basically overseeing everything and being a major player but actually not just sitting around in a room all day and we we just got like a iota spinoff. Nobody wants been off. Mesa inducement off now sees Daniel's far I don't want to spin off definitely. No no I think Erin. Hit the nail on the head. He's better as supporting. I wouldn't mind empires such a good fuck like besides like the two fights and a prequel. He's Boring Shit. Thank you. You supported me. No but in the prequels or an empire empires sick. That's old wacky. Oughta right that's well. That's the iota that I love and I love fighting iota to a lot of people don't like that are low. Fighting own ally cutting. Yeah but other than just sitting around judging Sfeir stupid some sane can get judging people just making poor decisions. What the Hell makes you? What gives you the right to judge me who you well. That's what we're going to see here. We're going to see where he got in his old age you know. He's like David Stern Davidson. Everybody loved him in the beginning but then it got a little crazy towards the end. How old is Yoda? He was five hundred in the prequels. Know US already close a nine hundred sixty in the prequels and then so be like three hundred four hundred and now we'll be in the six hundred okay. Yeah but I've like six hundred. Yoga should be like Bryan Cranston and life. Now you know soak up here some wrinkles on. He's got some years but he's still removed can still fuck you up our. Let's move onto something that nobody wants to see. I don't know. Does anybody WANNA see Indiana Jones. Five because it seems like this movie has been in development for years and it was like Oh. It's going to be Chris Pratt. No wait Harrison. Ford's coming back and Crisp Could be an. Two's going to be son wait. No he's on it then Harrison. Ford come back. It's just GONNA be Indiana Jones. He's going to be running around and now Spielberg's gone yet. Spielberg was attached. But now he's a producer and they're saying James Mangold which is an interesting choice directly only. I've been checked out in Indiana Jones. I can remember mangled Kinda brings you in here. That's the appeal I mean Spielberg of course Austar with Spielberg and it's one of the best directors of all time. But I mean recently what is he you know as far as Indiana Jones Known people did not like the fourth one. Yeah so it's like all right. James mangles awesome. You Have Logan. Former sorority movies. I very much enjoyed. Get fresh little. Waltham lawn walk the line? It's a nice little free thinking. It's going to refresh franchise but Jones. I've come on that. That's a rebooted. If you WANNA do I can understand Disney. What's the milk this? This was part of the Lucasfilm acquisition and they've done nothing with it. And if you can use it maybe if it's like an Indiana Jones son or daughter and he kind of like trains the next one and that's got to be that it's going to be eighty years old. Yeah he's going to be running around punching people with the whip this is such a lice. Loser is gone right. And how would you WANNA fat? Callers Raffling It's fun to carry you. Know hangs right on the side. I guess you need the wet. But it's like. I commend him for stepping down from Indiana Jones. Though it does says it says a lot about him because this quote was he wants to give the younger generation shop board Spielberg three movies every year. No Well with his franchise you think these guys. These guys probably grew up on Indiana Jones. No it's mangle. That's the generation where they grew up admiring Lucas and Spielberg because of these two franchises star. Wars and Indiana Jones. The Guy wouldn't love shot in the Jones. I love that he's doing. No I think for a Lotta people not necessarily us on another nostalgia for Indiana Jones is not that heavy for you guys right because it's not for me now I see. I've seen the movies other good but I don't really remember them too. Much and generation x Laws Indiana Jones. I just know from my brother in law. My Dad loved them about these for a lot of both assessment. Yeah this is star wars and for a long time. It was perfect. They had the trilogy. None of the movies were bad. And then the fourth one came kinda ruined that for a lot of people so I guess Indiana Jones is an audience for you. Think you think he's thinking of instead of botching five and we just give to someone else let's see if they can take care of it. Yeah I think so. Yeah I don't want him to get that George Lucas Efecto. Where you're just sitting there and Mike micromanaging. And he's been gone with Teddy where he just step down step away. I gotTa Tell Ya Spielberg already been doing that for years now. Yeah Yeah Oh yeah mangled. I mean he's been not like oscar-nominated he's not he's someone you kind of uses a puppet. No I'm just yeah Tom. That's what I'm saying like you get a great director. So you're getting some no name you should ask here at the Logan Right now. Maybe walk the line but not for Ford versus Ferrari for writing. I think he was pitcher. I don't know if he doesn't whatever regardless established director so every movies kind of made over the last couple of years has been good even the Wolverine. I liked. Yeah I mean. We'll we'll have to see if my money's on this movie doesn't happen with Harrison Ford. They've been talking about it for a long time. Yeah Chris. Pratt is a great great choice. couldn't Chris Brad do it being with marble or no totally? Oh Yeah I figure that would make it easier okay. Yeah they're in Jurassic world's I mean when I take another franchise I it's that's I would want a complete reboot I wouldn't want Harrison Ford. Maybe he's scared. Yeah you got you do it as Katie continue. The movies that happened in the past happened and you kind of continuous legacy that way instead of just having a new Indiana Jones. Somebody said it'd be cool if they did like daughter character. That's what they did with uncharted. Oh Yeah when Nathan. Drake was retiring and he kinda passes legacy onto his daughter. Give you know new. Take on the character. I mean like we said that kind of was like the generation before us. So I'm not the Hugest Indiana Jones Fan but if you do something to refresh kind of revitalize it and I think I can get more people on board not just the fans that have been around since the movie started. We'll talk about fans of a movie. That's been around since it started little shop of Horace. This might be the same Fan Base on another might be some girls over here but there's news that Taryn Edgerton. Scott Johnson and Chris Evans are rumored to star in a little shop of ours remake. Oh well now this movie for me. It's it's like one of my favorite movies from my childhood. It's so weird. Yes this beetlejuice Snow Dogs and like Mike Beetlejuice as my Mount Rushmore. My childhood movies I always loved the remake with rimmer. I don't know why wash it. I was obsessed with Venus flytrap after this movie. Billy Porter's plan to Venus flytrap right. Yeah Yeah that's funny. You guys have never seen this right now. I really haven't but yeah just paint a picture for people who haven't seen it starts to Shit Taryn Edgerton is basically trying to Bang Scarlett Johansson. And she's like well. I got this this boyfriend. That's Chris Evans. He's a real tool Steve Martin played them in the original so he said and he finds his Venus flytrap that eats blood. Was like just befriend this little. Venus flytrap pricked my finger giving a little blood like one does right but then the Venus flytrap grows to be like thirty feet tall. And he's like I need humans. The Old Trafford. So like Oh. I know this dentists in the movie. what's the point of the Venus flytrap though? Wisey get her Venus flytrap no no he. He's he works at a plant store. Okay shop plant shop that becomes a shop of horrors. I just gave his plant in the background the plank and talk to. That's Oh I forgot to mention that. That's the way the house out on glass. Okay and he sings read receive more. Like I can't but I know this dentist. I saw a tweet. That kind of bothered me. Was that Scarlett Johansson. Hollywood police sought casting. If you want your movies like to succeed the hell while I have good movies and I know Scarlett Johansson. She's like not the most popular person. But I mean look at last year. End Game Joe Joe Rabbit. Best Picture nominated marriage story. Best Picture nominated to Oscar nominations for self to. It's I don't know every movie. She Stars and Makes Bank. Yeah Cheese doesn't have the ego where she always has to be the star. She'll take the supporting roles. People don't like I mean they don't. They dislike it on twitter. Yeah there's people on twitter that is like I. I've done some things that I can see why people don't like it but people try to discredit her as an actress and saying all right he doesn't make good movies that's just plain false and she's a megastar too so it's like don't don't put out a tweet like if you want your movies to succeed. That's just dumb. Yeah I saw that tweet in interesting choice though I feel like they could have went for somebody a bit less famous for this character. And somebody almost like Like a Shelly. Divall type kind of that innocence. That naievety because this is a character that it's an old. It's like a nineteen fifties story white picket fence. And I want to be with my hubby. But I had this really mean boyfriend and she looks like that though what she too hot like. She's just too low sees pulls off the Bob Workman short hair with the cut. Like yeah no she. Often Hail Caesar to nineteen fifty starlet. What the movie like the whole tone two categories which wants to be like whatever but Chris Evans's intriguing to the castle. Loan will get me to go see the movie. His character is out. That's a dentist. Okay yeah so it's perfect assing. I think Bill Murray was in the original. You got bring him back. He's like a masochist. That once an hour long root canal. Are you excited for it? I mean being a new. I mean twenty your favorite movies. Yeah I think this is one of those little shop of ours is one of those stupid little movies that I think can be remade. Go years and I think it's fun. You know you get some of the bigger bigger stars of today. It's it's a silly music different movie musical yet. A musical they sing. You didn't mention that you guys. The family guy joke when Moore goes back in time. They get the background dancers from little shoppers. Explain it no okay. Y- that's when he went back in time. It's like that all right. Let's move on to the next story. We have a first look at Robert Pattinson Bansi. What'd you guys? Think about this. I'll give you the floor so I spoke. I think I think it looks bulky. I was I was assuming it was going to be more slim the Batman beyond but this was like walking around like a fucking cinderblock gave you the floor and you disappointed me so much. I like the suit. Yeah and it's obviously it's not router patents and it's a stunt double and I thought those you actually bulkin home. I'll take that Cliff booth assured that he more adjustments and some things that imposed. But I liked it too and had a little Arkham look to it that which we kind of got a teas and the That little test footage we got before this and I like I like the home. Made looks to people always complain about the homecoming suit. Like I like it both year the years year year. You you like the big ears. It's gotTA FIT to Qasim. Maybe big short as long as fits the style and the rest of the suit. I like the look of the mask. It looked Kinda goofy scary. I like all the equipment that he had over. The motorcycles got ears. He fucking hall. Yeah just Dick. Looks like from everything we've gathered from? I guess the casting sue the characters that are going to be in it and the stories are trying to adapt. I feel like they're kind of going for a kind of mix between Nolan and more of a traditional Little Cambier type comic book movie where it's not going to be super serious but you're gonNa have things like a motorcycle with bad years on it. So I kind of enjoy that aspect of it and it seems like with the villains going with you know a vast array of villains right away and some of the weird ones too so yeah I think the comics captured that perfectly where it is a dark noir detective story but it's still very much a comic movie. They're going to be dressed tights. They're gonNA look ridiculous at times. Matt Reeves seems to be the the guy who really understands that everything he said about Batman as a character has just made me as a Bama fanatics. So happy where it's like. This is how you know. I'm obviously not filmmaker but this is how I would do it or this is how I want someone to do it. So okay and the suit kind of lends itself to that where it's like. You said it's not overly cinematic yet. It doesn't look like 'cause play. Some people said it did I. I don't think it did. It looks like a band. It just reminded me of Ben Affleck's and I wasn't a fan of Ben Affleck's really looks like Ben Affleck's see a lot of people so Ben Affleck suit. They preferred it over this that it looked because of the costume was The Nolan's Batman I love Nolansville. I love all the Batman. Suits ain't no one. No one's as mass was pretty bad. The mask is probably yeah. It's not great but the suit itself is cool. I Love His Cape Alec. The slick look at athletes. Who Does the best one in your thought Affleck suit? Those muscles were athletes. They weren't now known Catholics muscles. You sicko you think a yoked up that he did he just jealous and he wasn't. There was a scene with a shirt off and he's got a C. D. Okay Well Yeah Ben. Affleck anything real in Hollywood anymore. Wow Dan I bet. Oh I James Gordon with the Corporal Gordon. He claims that he's drawn more than half the time. He lost all credibility they did. I can't watch this show anymore. I felt drive. You're sitting down. Every I mean nine at twelve thirty to watch James Corden and Youtube. It's a youtube show. You Watch Ted's favorite. Comedians are James. Gordon and Jerry Steinfeld. I never said that. Well you just pronounce them James Gordon and Steinfeld. Nsa STEINFELD SO JERRY. Seinfeld is driving his boss at steinfeldt stats. Let's go to what's trending former beatle. John Lennon who was forty John Killed in this town south way. Who is the last time you saw Chevrolet in Tokyo our behind the scenes comedians? Getting coffee just on our trailer. They're short no. He's driving drinking coffee. Imagine that it was t- The hold on alario drinking tea. That discussion is so great man. He's he's so right when you're getting the coffee some money and the other person gets a T. completely throws off the vibe where forgets to t- thanks to both good at two and Larry's like you don't know what's in my cup and you told me so. I know I know you're not tracked coffee. That's less story. Oh Malang yes. Oh I see that They cut out the kissing scene to appease China. And what was the was? It like A gay couple. Don't know but the coaches said Mohan's kissing scene gets cut out to abuse China young request three hundred million dollars to make it was tested with Disney execs in China. To ensure cultural competence. Competency in a scene where Milan kissed her love. Interest was removed. I'm pretty sure of Milan. I mean maybe China's just giving going so far where they're like no love see move on budget three hundred million. I think so. I saw that somewhere. That's a Lotta fucking money. It looks amazing is a new trailer for last night and In front of the my hero movie and some of the action sequences we were like wall and that was an automatic route. So it's going to be a bit more favourable to action we. Maybe we were just told you. We were too easily impressed ticket. Sales just Release to be interesting to see what the salads especially in China to the krona virus. Us All faulk yeah. I was so excited for this because I was interested to see how much it would make because of the China box office. You said two billion at one point. I don't know maybe but it's not an unreasonable move on my honeymoon gang ruin Congress has. This isn't going to stop where we'll stop When we do something about it until the last honeymoon is ruined. Can we do anything about Jordan? Peele Hawk candyman trailer. He's he's producing so I saw the ellen. Apparently he uses say by name. Say My name by Destiny's child horror movie so he kind of did like what he did with. Agatha he ruined. That's all for me. Actually I don't appreciate that because I e I cannot not think of the movie and it just scares me. Also be five in one on listened to that song and I'm not well this one. I'm not even GONNA LISTEN TO NIGHT. Accosted directing but peel his. Name's all over it. Sometimes when you see producer executive producer Jordan Peele or James Cameron. It's like are they though but he seems to be very involved. Yeah that's I I would love to be at that stage in a career what we do like to great movies and then you just producer guy for five years until you make your next project now. Today's Pokey Monday February twenty seven marks today the first pokemon video game writing drain were launched in Japan and nineteen ninety-six Biting Green. Red And blue red and green apple came on Monday. Yeah this is pretty cool. So it's trending on twitter. Over five hundred thousand tweets love pokemon anything sports. Tom Brady a lot of news coming out about Tom. Brady Adam Schefter Shia. That's Corny. He's currently operating under the belief that he will enter free agency to play somewhere other than New England where we think. I'd love to see him. Go to San Fran. He grew up In San Francisco rent necking Jimmy G. That's maybe San Diego. Are you kidding me? They would kinda see in a second. Tom Brady it'd be for forty one year old. Tom Brady coming off his ship. Yeah IT'D BE INNOCENT SUPER BOWL. Wouldn't it wouldn't be innocent but you'd be you take that chance. Jackie Sucks Goodyear. Less here doesn't suck. He's younger. You could find a semi G. You really can't look at the NFL. There's not a lot of good quarterbacks. The I I think Jimmy Fitzmorris quarterbacks superbowl yeah. There was a defense. He's a REX Grossman. You can find A. Rex Grossman degrees. He's a little better than REX. Grossman and they gave me head against the saints was wrecked. Saint doing that okay. So he had one good game. Brady's in that game they win the Super Bowl. Dibba WHO in a game right now is a super bowl quarterback Russell Wilson. Barely find him anywhere. It's hard to find good quarterback fucking jet fan very hard to find a quarterback Steven seagal is being followed by the SEC for allegedly promoting a cryptocurrency. Talk about a weird life. This guy's Bitcoin to point out. Is that what it's called? Thanks what am I wanted to try and get people to move. It's the five year anniversary of the dress debate. Remember that dress. Yes yeah I hate those things might see it changes at first? It was right now. It's golden light really. Yeah I see blue and black. Yeah and that's Craz- around in black but sometimes I was able to see blue and black for you see if you see nursing. No don't sometimes I'm able to switch back and forth. It's weird. I did the same to it. The the the anything. You can superpower no just whatever you focus on the way you squint angry. Look at it and once you see it that way. Then you can't see the other. I know what you guys are going for with the white and gold. That's the other that's what it is right. Yeah I can like yeah but now I still see blue and black to this day. I've never I've never every single. Yeah now I can only see wind goal. That's weird the reason why this vile I could see. Why plausible among them on the guys want to go to learn the science behind this as somebody cornea somewhat your eyes? That's for the fan to decide people you call up to the show. You better be ready. Which is about to do sitting there trying to spell your name and all of this other stuff. It's not just show it spike show. We'll give you that opportunity to speak to him on. Don't call a p unless you got the question here from Matthew Samson. What movie would you like to see a sequel to that doesn't have one inception doing? I can't see the other way now. Why did you even bring out inception to is definitely move like the sea but in real life if you look at it you think it's the same thing or just because I think they've the we we did all this five years ago? This is still coming up now. I should have brought this up really mean talking back. They did the photo shop where they. What movie do you WanNa see a fucking sequel to movie? Would you say inception? That's a good choice. He's always talked about it. Yeah that'd be definitely interesting. I like to see like inception. But it's a horror movie and he's he's like he's back with his kids but he takes on jobs and it's like Oh this woman's possessed but he's like no people are just trying to steal secrets. I think the other guys. It'd be a good now. The Nice guys. I both why not stop at one. the GOSLING. I always confuse those sale But I think people that's something people been talking about for a while. They WanNa see that movie and the first one is fucking amazing. I wouldn't mind us us to. Oh Yeah yeah definitely or get out to us to that actually know knock it out to. I don't want the American wash it. That'd be crazy us me. Actually you know what I kind of love the ending of us. Maybe a prequel. Actually I don't want to explain that because I don't WanNA think about how off make sense. I was one of those people like. Don't think about it. You don't know more. Just keep it as it. Is this question here from Dennis? Quelch I wanted your take. Hey guys really into channel. Thanks Dennis I wanted your take on. Better call souls it starts. Its second to last season like you. I was a big fan of breaking bad. It was intrigued when they spun off. Better Call Saul but I kept my expectations. Low through four seasons now on fascinated by Jimmy MacGill's moral descent into Saul Goodman and find his character just as fascinating as Walter white thoughts. I feel the exact same way but I haven't watched it yet because I started watching it and then I miss a season so I fell behind. Now I'm just going to wait until it's done and been watched the whole thing but oh here's good things about I think yeah I think Jimmy McGill has surpassed Walter White terms of the complexity as a carrier. Yeah the what they've gone into Jimmy. It's it's fascinating man to see how natural his dissent has been into Seoul Goldman because coming into it. That's what I thought it was going to be Saul Goodman all the way then it was gonna be more comedic but now it's it's it's a bit more serious. It's a bit more dramatic and yes. I'm getting so annoyed seeing like previews and let let little skits on the Internet better call soul and scenic where they are but meet not knowing where they are and how they got there. I think after season for its invented itself. It's on the same level as breaking bad. You can debate which one is better. But it's it's in it's in the conversation without a doubt I want just catch up. I watched the first few seasons. Organza season two then. I stopped for a while so five to go back. I watch everything so I might do that. After the season it's worth yeah it's really worth. There's so many in breaking bad where you think. Wow you know must have taken a lot to do that and it's like better call. Saul. It's like yeah. Here's here's how we about it again. this questionnaire from Michael Williams nerd Soup Homeland Superman Hulk free-for-all who's walking out alive superman. Yes Superman toasting hulk. I think both of them are just flick homeland or out of the way. Let's just do well if all minor is superman. I'm just saying if that's never seen him at his full power but if he's supposed to be same thing superman but evil I duNno. That's Kinda like Zeid. Then right but yeah. Hulk has no chance in John Lewis. Yeah that's what I'm saying. This question here for Hussein. Hey soupy boys that my question is what is your most unpopular game of thrones theory. I mean opinion. Most unpopular game of thrones opinion. I would say that episode three in season eight was a good episode that seems to be unpopular and one that I still believe. Yeah I mean I guess. Both our views of season eight are pretty pretty unpopular. Even we don't love it but I don't think it's that don't want me with that. Don't our views of season eight pick one? No I'm saying that's saying in general season eight not that bad most people will. I consider that to be unpopular on. Did you reward no gorgeous? Ethanol hate it but I hate myself you. He's unpopular now but I guess the sides that like like you're likely doorns storyline. I love us. Well there you go. That's the Muslims. That's very unpopular. I don't know I'm waiting for something to get me back into that some Checked out on everything. That's game of thrones right now I just Kinda want either the Prequel of the book to come out so I can get back into the world and be happy about it all right question here from Chris. Korea guys rewatch no country for old men the other day it still to me one of the greatest movies ever and would say it's tough movie of that decade end is Anton the psych psychopathic and feared movie. Villain ever Yes yes yes yes yes I mean. He's one of the best savvier boredom as character. He's so good. The scene in the gas station always makes me squirm easily one of the top five movies of that decade. Definitely on one of the two thousand eight was eight thousand seven six thousand or two thousand seven now house a great year to what there will be blood Anton Anton Anton. That might be their best movie. The Collins Yeah Hatch. It's the Least Cohen's brother movie in terms of the comedy so God Damned Arkansas. Serious and well acted. It's it's great. That goes into goes into like a a directing group. I always think about that two months. We'll know it's like What did we go by? They go by the Coen brothers through the Russo's which askes Sir brothers are they They're the Roussos the Russo brothers. The Cohen's Cohen Brothers Lord and Miller does happen to have two good names floating. Yeah perfect QIAN PEEL COMEDIC. Well directing what if it was like? I don't know well. Safdie brothers on twitter just go is like saftey. It's just all capital. Saf SAFTEY brothers. I feel like I just want to call them We get that ghost one by Saffy best films of all time to these definitely up there. You have people like Darth Vader Heath Ledger. Joker I duNno probably way. He's fucking terrifying in that movie. Just as weaponry. He's great. I mean who'd think the habit that thing for cattle? Yeah what the fuck. I love the day when he pops people. It's a good choice. I'm a big noise. Guy This questionnaire from amy at book. She geeks going to twitter questions. Which comedy movie do you think is highly overrated Every Adam Sandler classic for me and I think that's an unpopular opinion talking like goodfellas so people are like the happy Gilmore's and stuff like that. Yeah that's the argument. It's like he sucks but remember the classics my Did you see those in European? Yes then he didn't find him funny. No I think as a kid I was like. Oh this is funny you know Adam Sandlers Fun guy and I always saw every Adam Sandler movie but I think as I got older I started to realize I'm only watching them because everyone else seems to like them but it was. It was a moment in high school will be put on Billy Madison. It was like a group of us and I was like holy fought. This is not funny like when he says Jackpot when he gets the hot teacher. All the on the ground with all of that and I was like. Where's the joke? It's the way he says. Yeah it's the voice. Any you guys got any comedy like. Your missiles towers. I don't know why people are so fucking funny. Now you're talking about So fucking funny those who are so stupid and so funny. I'm mini-me Michael. Caine as his dad. Just the casting movie and beyond say as Foxy Cleopatra was the best part in that movie is so fucking funny upon about them saying things that are could be with somebody like if you have you guys are. I could group of our sense of humor. Yeah you can't watch it alone. You're bit you're what are what are some stiff. Yeah you're fucking tree. I'm stiff fucking grew to over here looking plank from at comedy's comedy's comedy's there's some movies you watch but like. Oh my God so funny and you watch it and you probably like Oh. This probably could be funny but I'm alone at home. I got home watching a movie. And Kinda how I feel about Austin powers ultimate test. You're alone and something makes you laugh like wall. This is funny. You know what was really funny. I was Elf and now I still laugh your narrative but it's not as funny as it was. I saw Mustang. It's over region. I'm just interested statement. You say Christmas. I love Christmas love. You know hate self. Who really doesn't like Health Nash? Yeah he would so against. He's like no other comedians. Laugh at him for doing that movie. How does she know that gives us insight? I love that movie. I think it's delightful. It's fucking two kids movie. It's a kid's Christmas that also adults like and it's funny this year from Zoe ads. Zadie home make fun of him. When are we having the nerd suit? Monopoly livestream while can we do all? I'm down to do it tonight. He's get. I'll get to talk to these guys doing tonight. I figured off from work. There's no way errands finishing fourth in front of all those people. How do we livestream monopoly online? I could record it. The build. Some sort of device that connects to some sort of other device. I can't harboring Nash Shrinks. I'll do it. I can record it on the On the Ogata. Yeah. Yeah no we cannot just put it up. He luxury more. We could do a pre taped he. I'm usually recorded. How ridiculous was he the other day? Okay let's not bothered me. He was really pissing me. I just didn't want them on because as you saw coming at me. Yeah me upset. Really WanNa make a trade Nash. She's like yeah but I'm GonNa take all your all your money the guy and he's like I'm not GonNa Trade for him the whole game so fucking freaking out and he cares. People need to hear this. He wanted Blues Railroads and all. Yeah all right speaking of Nash. What this question. From Wayward Stranger. What adult film stars would you want to marry? This is a question feel Nash. Would've I'll answer for him. Rachel star no he said Toy. Oh yeah he's Tori black through and through. It's funny that we already know this before the question. Mel Nash has said he's on record. I've go- Kelsey Munro. Nice eighth pick you know the I like Chani sins. I mean do it is like a firefighter policeman astronaut. He'd be a good partner. Yeah they'd be a good lover. I mean toy black my day one so probably London just been born here. I don't know Dash and count because she did. The tape no knows leaked that was elite or was it late and then she published. It's like billy crystal getting the minor league at that never played in the majors a courtesy. I will take one last question here from Lewes at Lewes. Utd who of you guys would wake up the fastest after taking a punt from Tyson fury. His not me. I'll just sit there and not WanNa get hit again. Yeah those are now but there's a thing there's like a theme that tells us when you woke up even though he's not gonNa Punch you again. It's only one punch to play dead so as one Panchen then I wake up in hospital. Something you yeah. That's the thing you like sleeping so you might be out for a while. I'll just take it to yes. That's where I land like. If someone like a nice pile aggress I bike. I can live here for a little bit concrete. I might forget for a little rollover or something but man. I'd like to see what he'd break. I'd like to see like four types. Everything break our faces all the same time. That's like the question with the Ray. Lewis or who is at linebacker chemo sliced linebacker. Would you like him? Most lifespan shoe or tackle you over in the middle for like a thousand dollars knows I think it was ray. Lewis at full speed. Take upon from Kimble's lies face man. I think I feel like the Ray Lewis. You're you're risking. Less damage from the radio is on. He could kill you. He could Kimba slice. That's a thing kimble sliced peaches fucking kill. I mean I don't know. Imagine being able to kill somebody with one punch. I won't have the next to you. Know get a week neck think about it tastes and fury. What is he six nine to fifty sixty or something? Meanwhile there's like six six just the massive human beings. I'M GONNA be fighting those guys at the thing. Yeah I'm like we're in our own way close. Does he have? At least I think I think. Oh Club difference I ca- die from. I think death God makes a difference. Yeah more cushion. Yeah no they say. The glove doesn't cushion the punches. At all I thought that they said the gloves to protect the hands. I always thought the gloves like things in hand to hand. God has bed Have you ever been punch with the glove in the face? Yeah it's it's no different. Well what would be the? Have you boxed some seriously? Have you bought somebody before? Yeah fucking around. Yeah they were. Were they wearing gloves? Yeah Yeah but compared to you knuckle. An an omit. I'm I'm pretty sure it's the same thing it's like soccer. Boppers it so that you don't break your hands now because what the UFC Google it. They're less the gloves way less. And there's more knockouts yet but the UFC is also you're allowed to kick people. There's more ways to knock people out boxing. It's very punches. What I guess he see a lot more one punch. Knockout could be the wait. Maybe they swing faster with the glove. Well it's also the fact that they're taking it. They gotta be taking more of a beating. You doing boxing boxing. They barely get hit anymore. I don't know we don't either. This is Max Kellerman said on. Espn in two thousand nine. I'm just visiting my only boxing. Knowledge is watching as now the gloves though I could be wrong. All right guys super. Nah We didn't answer the question. Oh definitely nash he but he would do it just like he would do Jacob out just to wake up fast. Now he's doing not to offend Tyson fury again. It'd be like it's cool that you punch me. He'd apologize to them. Alabama head was there man. I should give you one on the house. Oh my God my head. Listen so you're coming in. I don't know why have my dude. 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5. Serie A, more Neymar talk, the Puskas Award, and a little VfB Stuttgart!

90 and Extra Time

30:13 min | 1 year ago

5. Serie A, more Neymar talk, the Puskas Award, and a little VfB Stuttgart!

"And welcome to the ninetieth ninety extra time podcast meet rub hct. Everybody had a great weekend. No we had a nice weekend here. In germany we had some decent weather had some decent football going on. Let's let's get into it. I'm gonna start just by going over the scores of the premier league which unfortunately this weekend. I didn't get to watch too much of did see some highlights. Let's see friday we had ashton villa to everton zero and what's going on with every ten scored in the last two matches assabil newly promoted. They seem like they're poise to at least stay in the premier league for next season. We'll see on saturday. We had chill c. Three three. No it city to this game was actually in norwich city franklin part though got his first win as a manager of chelsea so lot of goals in this game but as i mentioned didn't see it. I'm sure was probably a pretty decent game next we had uh brightening hope albion zero southampton two and last week. We had a shock with p._s. G losing but this weekend again. It seemed like it was in the premier league manchester united won crystal palace to that's just just tragic. I'm sure that nobody expected crystal palace to to beat menu especially at old trafford next match we ed sheffield united one lesser city to not really too much to say they're watt for west ham three and then and the game that i got the updates for didn't didn't watch and here's a lot a lot of talk about you know how the lineup was going to be and the are so manager. Manager was saying that there was going to be some shocks some changes but still similar result to how it always is liverpool three arsenal one. One arsenal seems like they. I don't know they have a long way to go. It seems like but liverpool is just you know maintaining from from last season. They have not stopped then yesterday. We had board one manchester city three now. I didn't see any highlights of this game. In my <hes> my news feed. I saw a lot about a penalty. That looked like it should have happened and it just seems like manchester. City has not been having a lot of luck with far this year. <hes> pep guardiola did his post was calm or excuse me post game press conference and when asked about it. He just didn't want to get in trouble but he was like. Don't ask me about far talk to the var officials both so we'll see what happens with them. Hopefully you know every week. Far won't be biting manchester city. <hes> next week had tottenham zero newcastle one another surprise result and then wolves one burnley one one not too much really to say about the premier league for this week aside from that manchester united result and you know what happened with <hes> with man city as it stands right now the the table in the premier league got liverpool nine points in three games number-one mantis or city second with seven points arsenal surprise in in third and leicester so city in fourth manchester united in that fifth europa league spot and bottom three. We got southampton with three points new castle with three points and then waterford in last with zero points and a minus six goal differential moving onto lolita. Uh i was able to watch not a whole complete game of any of these but i did some flipping back and forth between games so on friday friday we had granada zero severe one la sante to villarreal one saturday. Ah sooner in eibar game i watch probably about ten minutes of this didn't really wasn't really interesting to me didn't seem like there was a lot going on but what there was the real madrid riyal violated. I'm always gonna mess him up. I did watch a pretty decent amount of this game. It just seemed like the whole time manchester seething real madrid was was frustrated this entire batch and a plane at home and they just couldn't not they just couldn't get it going either. They were being frustrated by the teams defense celta vigo one valencia zero actually picked valencia win that game guitarfish ah one athletic bilbao one then yesterday we had alevis zero espana old zero <hes> the next game the team that i'm kind of following only because i like some of the smaller teams <hes> plus i've been to my orca but real my orca zero real sociedad one zero athletico madrid one and then the game. I probably watched the most of this weekend just because i seriously thought they were gonna lose barcelona five rail beddis too and when i turn this on i'm pretty sure that barcelona was down to nothing. I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure when i turned it on and that's what the score was but anton anton decided to show up in this game i mean messy is he's out for how much longer he's one hundred twenty million euros about time that he finally showed up scored some goals exciting for the fans and most importantly they got the win at home after that last match i mean it would've been terrible if they would have lost this probably would have been be talking about the manager manager for the coach getting fired or at least being on the hot seat but they excited the fans in this game and you know greece and scored so i don't think we're going to be hearing too much about neymar come into barcelona but i'll get to that later on but it's good though that was able to do something finally all right so as of right now the league standings in first we we have six points in two matches second me athletico madrid same thing six point two matches third we have real madrid four points and before we have <hes> riyal lia- the lead two matches and four points and then in those aerobic spots right now five and six we got the athletic bilbao and re also c._o. Dodd and in the relegation spots the bottom three right now we have a spinal lagunas and three hour bettys <hes> mhm <hes> all right bundesliga on friday. We had cologne one hosting bruce dorfman three no surprise there cologne newly promoted <hes>. They have some decent players but they're not going to be able to keep up with doorman. Dorman dorfman is gunning to to challenge this year for the bundesliga on pace to <hes> to absolutely do it then on saturday. We had mice one bruce moenchengladback three alex berg one union berlin one union berlin i ever point in the bundesliga for them so congratulations to them. They're fans of the next game at home. Hopefully they can do it for their fans. <hes> next year fortuna dusseldorf won by liberal kuzin three no surprise there paderborn one fribourg three hof and heim three bremen to and then shoka zero by munich's three then yesterday we had rb leipzig to eintracht frankfurt one. I watched probably about twenty minutes of the game yesterday. Eh it was it was pretty good. You know towards the end. Frankfurt was definitely trying really really hard to get equalizer. They just weren't able to do it. Then the game that i watched the majority of the in the bundesliga this weekend hertha berlin zero wolfsburg's three and her the berlin is coming off of that game last week where a tied with with munich so with by communiqu and it surprising that they weren't able to do anything at home against wolfsburg wolfsburg. I mean the first goal wolfsburg. Was you know pretty questionable penalty and then it just seemed like a berlin was not able to respond whatsoever even they tried but they just just wasn't gonna happen right now. The bundesliga top of the table that two matches at borussia dortmund six points rb leipzig with six <hes> uh fribourg with six and wolfsburg with six and for fifth and sixth europa league spots we have beyer leverkusen six six points and in sixth place we have barn munich four points onto matches because he got that draw with a berlin last week it <hes> and finally finally after much anticipation. I don't know why they always seem to be the last ones to start. We have syria. The first first game was parma. Zero event is one. I watched the first half of this. This game. You've meant is pretty much control. In the entire game t leaney scored the first goal of believes in the twenty seven th minute rinaldo had an opportunity to score later but it was disallowed allowed by far but i'm sure you know first game of the season. I'm sure there's gonna get this year. I wouldn't be surprised scores twenty five at least this year here so we'll see i'm still predicting event is to to definitely win. The league also next we had fiorentina three napoli four really high scoring game a very actually came into this game late. You know he's a recent acquisition for tina. He didn't score but see him playing again on. It's sunday yesterday. We had as a one surprisingly over a._c. Milan's zero calgary zero brescia one roma three general three spa to atlanta three some doria zero lot c._e._o. Three torino to swallow one hello hello one bologna one and tonight. We have inter milan playing. It think that's how you say. That name never followed that team before pretty sure. That's so you say the name. We sits out spill but anyway. I'll probably watch some of the game tonight. There's some <hes> syria and tonight and then tomorrow for whatever reason league has a bunch of games on so i think they have one game on tomorrow and then they have to on wednesday so there's actually a pretty decent amount amount of football left to the middle of this week with that being said actually before i do that syria standings things. I know it's only match day one but we have lots c._e._o. At the top of the table followed by napoli atalanta and torino at the bottom of the tape all surprising the milan parma and sampdoria again. It's only match day. One doesn't really mean much all right so moving onto leave one. We had one not too august three mets zero breast one rams uh-huh zero dijon zero bordeaux to yesterday we had monaco to nymphs was to monaco finally got some points or a point on the season. They had a pretty disastrous start first two games strasbourg org zero van to p._s. G. four to lose zero now. This game was pretty devastating dating for p._s. G they loss not only cavani but also they're gonna lose him bay for about a month <hes> so i really really can't see neymar leaving now. They can't afford to lose him. I don't know what they're gonna do to you know maybe sweeten the deal. Get him to enjoy playing in paris again if that's even possible but there there's absolutely no way that they're going to let him leave. Leave unless maybe some house i've mentioned before real. Madrid does something where bail and hi hi ms go to paris in exchange for neymar and cash but yeah. I don't see him going to barcelona if he does end ended up leaving paris. I'm pretty sure that it'll be to real madrid but we'll see what happens. I mean injuries can completely change. How a team forecast for the rest of the season so yeah so i'm gonna go and sit. He's not going to barcelona either. Gonna stay comparison. They're going to try to make him happy or he's going to go to real madrid and then gareth bale finally be able to leave real madrid. I guess we'll see <hes> so as i mentioned before tonight we had legal. We have montpellier hosting leone home and then on wednesday. We have lille hosting and then niece hosting marseille. I'll definitely be watching that that lille <hes> senate match because i want to see what a timothy way is going to end up doing and you know lille also got a new acquisition which i'll talk to talk about a minute but right now as it stands legal in two spots those groups as champions league spots we iran with nine points in three matches which is a surprise to me second place. We have leone the play tomorrow so they're sitting in second with a six points with six points and then in that automatic rupa league group stage spot we have niece but they will play on wednesday and then everybody will be up to three games but at the bottom of the table right now playoff them then in the the automatic relegation spots in one thousand nine hundred twenty we have monaco and diesel <hes> transfers so the last thing that i read was at the barcelona was still going to try to get neymar from p._s. E._s. gee just mentioned. I don't see how that's going to happen with. Both cavani am bobby being hurt. I don't think he's he's going anywhere aware unless like i mentioned <hes> there's some type of deal for him to go to real madrid. <hes> franck rebury signed a two year deal to go to fiorentina <hes> but when the last time it happened but he will not be playing in europe because because fiorentina did not qualify for either the champions league or the league last year so do you know he'll have a pretty quiet season. I guess maybe that's good for him less games and he can focus on you know just playing in the league and enjoying his football a little bit a little bit of non non stress <hes> see what else daniel sturridge no one had any idea where he was going to end up after sure liverpool decided not to resign him but he's landed in the turkish super league with trabzonspor <hes> it'd be good to see daniel sturridge and he may potentially get the chance to play in europe because <hes> trabzon sport is <hes> right now in in your rope elite qualifying. They're playing against athens so if they if they beat them then they'll be in the group stage for the champions league correction europa league not champions league so <hes> moving over to the bundesliga <hes> team. Oh verner from rb leipzig just signed a new contract. <hes> you know there was some talk during the summer about him possibly going to byron munich and then that kind of shifted and then they are talking about literally sahni and then he got injured so there was some questions about where he was going to be next season but he will be in leipzig. <hes> i've been following team over in her for a while because you know he's like a local studio art product and actually stood guard just sold him like two three seasons ago for only ten million euro which i think is insane especially seeing what he's become <hes> renato sanches he expressed how unhappy he was in by munich not playing very often then <hes> niko kovac said that he liked him even though he wasn't showing it because he wasn't really getting any playing time <hes> but he was able to finally maybe you know because he did a little bit of jostling with the press <hes> he was able to secure moved to lille in league all so he will he playing with <hes> timothy way in lille so i think that'll be pretty decent combination if timothy timothy where can actually get into the starting lineup but <hes> lille we was able to pick him up from byron for twenty five million euro. One of the things visit <hes> you know. There's a lot of rumors constantly <hes> about transfers. It's non stop but with david beckham's inter miami team starting connects march in the m._l._s. <hes> he's been talking about trying to draw players from europe to go to play to play at inter miami. I know he's mentioned names like grease is men and a few others but actually saw something that said the cavani was possibly going to be moving to inter miami at the the end of this this season so it will be next summer even the m._l._s. starts in march but the european season doesn't end until june <hes> so if that were to happen you know he would miss the first three months but <hes> that was a pretty interesting rumor that i read and i would actually you know i'm not sure how old cavani is. I think he's in his early early thirties three two. Maybe three <hes> but i think inter miam- u._b. Good place from the play. I'm interested to see you. You know what players they're gonna. Pull david beckham still has a lot of influence on a lot of people so i guess we'll see <hes> <music> <hes> <hes> all right so last week i was talking about the companies cup the one off match between the previous season's champions from lita amex mexican league and the m._l._s. in the u._s. and i misspoke i was talking about how you know after that match when atlanta be club america that there was talk about you know m._l._s. teams catching up to the league teams and i'm i said the wrong thing. I said that in last year's company on his cup that <hes> toronto had beaten tieger address that was not true to actually won that game three two one and then this year atlanta one three two two against a club america mm-hmm and then i you know doing a little bit of research about it you know trying to find out read something about m._l._s. and mexico trying to do like some type of weird <hes> superleague potentially combining the two leagues and then i found out about something that i had never heard of before <hes>. It's called the leagues cup. I guess this is the first year that they've done this. I believe it's four teams from league amax and then four teams from the m._l._s. so for the first round there's a u._s. Team or excuse me m._l._s. team against a league max team and then it just moves depending on who wins it moves on up until the final so in july and these are one off games in july july. There was the <hes> matches between from l._a. Galaxy playing against tijuana illegality it was to to the end of regular time time and then l. e. galaxy one that i'm penalties to one then the chicago fire crews as we'll sakata fire zero cruises will to <hes> houston dynamo one club america one club america one six five on penalties and then we also league zero t grice one and now this past week the ele- galaxy play crusoe's galaxy. One cruisers will too but i got a note. That's latin did not playing this game for the l. A. galaxy and the other game was a club america to tigray. She goes to one on penalties five to three so the final for this will be held in september in las vegas first and it'll be cruisers rule against tigers so next year's version. They're going to double the size of it. There's going to be eight teams from legal mix and then eighteen from the m._l._s. for the m._l._s. They're they're gonna do it. They're going to pick the top four teams from each conference. It's in the m._l._s. that did not qualify for the cocker caf champions league so it's still not going to be the best m._l._s. teams against the best liam max teams offer this. I guess news the company on his cup for that. You know which will still be a one off <hes> but yeah i mean. I think that's a pretty interesting. <hes> little tournament that they cooked up. We'll see how it goes in the in the future what they plan to do with that but <hes> i do plan on watching that final cruises fool against tigers <hes> lastly. I just want to talk about up. The <hes> two thousand nine hundred ninety fever who sits award <hes> this is the award for the best goal of the calendar year so right now the the nominees and if you have not got the chance to see any of these strongly suggest you go to youtube or google it and check out these these goals some of them are truly amazing <hes> i we have matias kuna from rb leipzig his goal against a beyer our liver cruising in the bundesliga it was it was pretty legit. You gotta go see it. <hes> next. We have a former winner of this tiny brahima vich for adela galaxies a goal against toronto f._c. I can't even really explain what he did. It was kind of this weird kind of chicken wing thing he lagos. It was pretty amazing. He won this back in two thousand and thirteen with that ridiculous. I don't know how far away he was bicycle bicycle kick in that friendly against a england when he was playing for sweden next. There's a leo messi barcelona to goal against real real betis. <hes> adjara nuke chart for cameroon was a golden the women's world cup against the new zealand <hes>. I'm going to mess this up. Fabio rela for some doria a goal against napoli last season one fernando kandara l- <hes> for river plate go against racing in the argentina premia division. Amy rodriguez the utah royals f c <hes> goal against sky blue f._c. In the national women's soccer league league <hes> billy simpson the of the cliftonville ladies a goal against ceylon swift's ladies in the northern ireland women's ends premiership under townsend for crystal palace is go against manchester city last season and lasts daniel. We'll saudi debate can't pronounce his team's name depression is a goal against fed enviros in the top league in hungary <hes> like i said i highly suggest if you get the chance to check a whole these gold out because they are all amazing easing the nominations. They never disappoint. They're always fun to watch. You know who can say who's gonna win. It's hard to the judge goals from different players different leagues different styles different positions but if i had my my say in nisa while it would probably be oh man be tough between the a jar and choke from cameroon and latins goal will against toronto f._c. I mean most of those goals are ridiculous but like i said check it out for yourself. <hes> and let me know what you think. What goal do you think will win. <hes> i'm on facebook instagram twitter to search you know ninety an extra time or as always you can email email me ninety and extra time at g mail dot com. I almost messed up almost had an episode without talking about the beasts do guard so <hes> this past weekend b if b stewart played against escobar our <hes> the game ended up being a zero zero draw <hes> <hes> stewart though however <hes> went down to ten men because they got a red card in the second half <hes> but you know they're on the road rude. Getting a point on the road is not bad right now. They are sitting in third place in the second bundesliga <hes> on eight points in four matches. Shes so not terrible but they could obviously be doing better so just wanna give you guys a little bit before ended the show and that is going to do it for the show this week. I hope you guys enjoy. The rest of the week kept some football. If you get the opportunity to get a have a uh bonus to bona shows this week covering the europa league and champions league draws later on this weekend or excuse me this week in the end of this week and then we'll be back again on monday so agree. Thanks for listening talk not later.

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July 14: Recapping the Toronto Indy with Norris McDonald!

Raceline Radio

36:37 min | 1 year ago

July 14: Recapping the Toronto Indy with Norris McDonald!

"The coast to coast in Canada Canada across North America and around the globe on the World Wide Web. This is race line on the race line. Radio Network presented by Subaru and Richland is driven by the twenty nine hundred Subaru W._r._X.. And W._R._X.. Sti It's the Atypical Sports Car Subaru confidence in motion by the Subaru ers add the formula for performance and by continental tire for what you do here comes another Subaru Canada presentation of your National Radio Motorsport Authority the race line radio network. I'm Eric Thomas Hose an anchor howdy Dhanapala Supreme Commander Race Line Magic Control Dick Palladian pushing network buttons this week wrapping up the thirty Third Toronto indie one by Simon. It's pronounced passion. No we'll have a detail run down to the whole Shebang then bringing our good buddy and fellow Canadian Motorsport Hall of Famer Norris McDonald from Toronto Star wheels for his analysis of chase by the lake and what the future of this race might be downtown newest NASCAR winner. Justin Haley talks about surprisingly how tough cup cars are on big tracks must more entries for the Subaru Raisani mailbag trivia contests and race rap news Simon Passionate dominates the version of Toronto indie Lewis toys with the British Graham Free in the Bush brothers kit the night run at Kentucky so for race fans everywhere powerful sport powerful Radio Twenty seven years on the air across Canada. This is the race line radio network. This is Joseph New Garden and you're listening to race line radio. This ain't like when you're a game and sign up for a credit card just to get the prize immediately. Cancel the credit card because there's no prize when you sign up for a radio shows at itunes or your favorite podcast here Schwartz Net five ninety the fan on demand Eric Thomas rates line race radio network latest news and opinion and here we go on the raise line race wrap well the INDYCAR show Oh in Toronto we were there with a Subaru ers special events summer cruiser and we all saw penske racing's Flying Frenchman Simon Passion O._B.. The best all weekend plain and simple that's the story he led every practice he grabbed the pole and went flag ragged flag for his first win in Toronto his third of the season. You know why everything worked really look like dominating today and I can't think these guys say they come in the morning with a big smile on the face of working together and I think that's that's exactly it Scott Dickson try for eighty five laps to catch Pazmino but he never did get their Alex Rossi finish the event third loan Canadian of course James Hinchcliffe six in his hometown scamper after starting fourteenth eighteenth rather decent car for the afternoon indy-car points out of Toronto now in Iowa on a little Oval Joseph New Garden Fourth in Toronto Leads Rossi by just four now and Simon panels wind kicks him up into the possibility for the championship as well coming up more indepth was it analysis of indie which Ronald Star wheels own Norris McDonald. He'll straighten it all out undercard stuff to indy lights races to tell you about Aaron t leads and Oliver Ask you the winners Canada's Delton Kellet eight and a podium for third good work there pair of indy pro. Oh Two Thousand Racist to Daniel Frost and Kyle Kirk would were the winners Canada's Parker Thompson two podiums and this is great third and a second good work. We'll run down the Porsche G._T.. Three Challenge Cup happenings at the indy in our continental tire sports car report. That's straight straight ahead Formula One. We'll just see any of this. The British Grand Prix at Silverstone Lewis Hamilton just simply romping having fun with it laughing at everybody else for the hometown fans leaving everybody in his dust another Mercedes showcase it was team deciding to stretch stretch Hamilton's first stint going with one stop strategy behind the safety car the only one giving him lots of space at the front and plenty of it his gap over mate Voltaire Botas at the end was over twenty one seconds might as well be two weeks Ferrari Charlotte Clare Claire saved some face for Ferrari. He finished third Canada's land stroll. No points again thirteenth <hes> F. One points Germany Hamilton leads boathouse by thirty nine drivers Merck over Ferrari by two hundred and seventy nine. It's done boys and girls theoretically F F two at Silverstone Aitken N._G._O.. Told winners Montreal's Nicholas Latifi good weekend for him to finish second and fifth in the Second Race Nascar Cup another try at a night run this one in Kentucky at work I like that waterlogged electrical mess at Daytona and it was Bush league all the way as in the Bush brothers Kurt and Kyle Busch battling door to door leaning on each other in the overtime laps it was great with older brother Kurt just edging Kyle at the flag for the win six one hundreds of a second I can depart and that's about that big not much at all. <hes> Eric Jones finished the race Third Cup points in New Hampshire. Kyle Busch leads Martin George Junior Nineteenth <hes> in Kentucky by seventeen points cut notes twenty year young Justin Haley still basking in his weather induced adduced first career cup wins surprising as it was at Daytona one thing he did talk about this is kinda surprising how hard it is to race cup cars in packs at big tracks like Daytona these cup cars men. There were a handful to drive. You know you'd think Daytona Hey Tony you just be wide open but we were lifting all we out of the gas in the center of the corner just to keep them underneath us. I mean ever Super Super Wild Dr Scary at some points and especially when you're three white the xfinity cars are lot easier. Dr Surprising Really Kyle Busch is one of the cab drivers you know who constantly wines and cries about the aero package new Guy Haley joins the chorus. I guess we should tell you that Hayley didn't even run Kentucky there. You GO NASCAR xfinity at that place that went to Cole custer trucks. Were busy there to earlier in the week tighter. And Chrome wins. I have no idea candidate stuart freezing. Though what a story the truck didn't pass tech they confiscated the truck put freezing tail and he stormed back to finish second. That's what do does NASCAR candidate Toronto indie claimed by Alex Tagliavini general tire a brand of continentals. The official rates tire of the Nascar Canada series continental tire sports car report brought to you by continental tire for what you do Imsa Porsche G._T.. Three Challenge Cup at the Toronto Indie windsors Roman Deangelis wins again the kid. It is red hot. It's going to be on the show here in a couple of weeks actually next week Ajax Jeff Kingsley second red deer Alberta's Parker Thompson finished a very respectable third the rally news is the presentation of the Subaru W._R._X.. W._R._X.. STI creating those monster sales of Godzilla after winning rally to lure new Richmond Quebec third round of the Canadian Rally Championship Joe Lee and Stephanie Louis Now series points leaders considering whether going to do next rally defeat. Perhaps the monthly geico back in September they say maybe providing the car checks out test racing's Carol Kari and Samuel Joy Al defending series champions as well undecided but the rest of their season. I was going to go in the C._R._C.. Maybe they'll run events in the east as before deciding whether or not to head West Drag Racing News and you knew this was coming the N._h._R._A.. Is Looking at returning their nitro classes. That's top fuel and funny car back to full quarter mile racing at selected events they cut it back to a thousand isn't feet that was in two thousand eight after radio guests got Coletta was killed in a terrible crash at English town New Jersey while fans of always desired a return to traditional quarter mile drag racing many drivers and teams thought they never should have shortened the strips two thousand feet in the first place and wanted to use other methods methods of shutting down the cars so the engines don't grenade many don't like the idea of switching back now you see because it would cost too much and of course there's the safety factor to consider as well. L. Faces in the Piazza was a nasty crash note from a couple of people asking me why I'm not talking about it while I am now. This thing had the right ending. Though young coast racing's a Victor Franzoni was rushed to hospital awake and alert following that scary shunt at the Mobil One sportscar Grand Prix a week ago Canadian Tire Motorsport Park the crash in turn three on lap. One on one of the sports car main stuffed friends on his number Fifty Cadillac D._p._i.. Rather deep into one of the tire walls he was hospitalized for evaluation released a few hours later thanking thanking the M._C._i.. And C. T. N. P. safety teams and track workers for their rapid response. Good work all their Indianapolis five hundred veteran wally down back. Remember him the guy in the cowboy hat who brought safety innovation to INDYCAR NASCAR legend tiny London and offroad icon con Ivan Ironman Stewart had the twenty twenty motorsports Homophobia America inductee list and the good list at it is one of the largest classes ever stockcar standouts Red Byron Rick Hendrick and Formula One's Jackie fix are among those to be inducted next March at Daytona Retana Balan back at thirteen starts in the Indianapolis five hundred before he became the chief steward of championship auto racing teams cart in seventy nine and was running the show when the INDYCAR started running in Toronto in nineteen eighty six thirty three events events ago and that is going to do it for the race. Wrap your questions your opinions and your comments and headlines and the stories in the news openly encouraged to hear from you. Whatever you WANNA talk about? Just send it along love to hear some input from everybody. Share your thoughts on theories with your fellow fans and fellow gear heads across Canada could win the Grand Prize you know in the Subaru Raisani mailbag trivia contest. If you qualify to win we play the contest in a few shakes make mine chocolate all right Donna. Let's do a pit stop. He's but still tacoma detail to finishing order indy-car battle in Toronto then more analysis at the event which Ronald Star wheels own Norris McDonald this race line presented by Subaru arranged that performance drive this week at your local Subaru dealer anywhere along the good old race line radio network this is willpower and you'll listening to baseline radio subscribe to a radio shows at I tunes or with your favorite Bod catcher do not settle to man man's sports net five ninety two fan on demand Canada's National Radio Motorsport Authority. We are the race line Radio Network Simon National from France and he mentioned that it was best dealer. Today didn't know that anyway flies the flag a high as a proud Frenchmen as he should wins the two thousand nine hundred thirty third edition of the Toronto indie total domination rolled it off the truck. Nobody could catch the guy fastest and all three practices grabs the pole and goes flag to flag in the race <hes> just about as perfect as we can. You can get on a track that an often doesn't let you be perfect <hes> before we get started on that. I'M GONNA run down the finishing order. Norris McDonald Toronto Star Wheels is coming up on her second guess to add some more of his astute analysis before we came on the air and and I and I've got to mention this because it drives me cross eyed when people don't get racing stories right you can't get them all right all the time but a little bit of research and a little bit of a of of diligence will prevent this this guy in a national newscast that came on before on our co flagship station am nine hundred c H._t._M._l.. In Hamilton made the proclamation that Robert wiccans had rejoined indy-car return to indycar racing. I think was his terminology. He did not hot returned to indycar racing. He made a demonstration lap with his lovely fiance carly in especially prepared car as a demonstration to show everybody the progress that he's made after being paralyzed from the chest down in that crash at Pocono last August. August that's different than rejoining the INDYCAR series and it drives me nuts. When I hear people who just okay? I'll just gonNA assume and just write that and spew that on the air. I don't care if I'M GONNA get in trouble with us. I you know it drives me nuts. Do some work do some diligence appro for God's sake there you go Robert Wickens that was emotional and I'm getting emotional about it too. He's a friend I'm I have licensed a license to say that he was I on this program when he was eleven years sold in in carts and he came into the studio with his mom and dad and did as good as an interview as most adult drivers would do so he's been a friend of ours from the very very beginning and at and and to hear someone misrepresent that just drives me Huchon anyway. I'll try to anyway that was very very emotional to see him. Get out there and he he wasn't wasting any time he drove that thing around. Maybe not as fast as an indycar would go but with specially prepared was a Honda it was an annex. It's an and <hes> in the electronics people and <hes> and and the Honda People <hes> put that together for him to be able to do that to show everybody how he's fighting back and you know what's exciting. We're going to have sound on this. In future. Riceland show's coming up is that system can be adapted for an indy car to drive it with hand controls as opposed to using your feet so you know he's fighting back and he's he's made an amazing amount of progress an inspiration to thousands and thousands of people who have have have spinal cord injuries and he drove that thing around there and you can hear the crowd cheering you see the crowd cheering and that's what it's all about boys and girls. That's when it all hits the road you know see a guy like that fight back with that kind of courage and that was that was terrific but passionate wins that race as perfect as a race cars ever GONNA see Scott Dixon Second Alex Alex Rossi Third Joseph New Garden Finished Fourth Felix Rosenquist Amazing Swedish rookie finish fifth. I was impressed by that Guy <hes> all weekend long James Hinchcliffe fought back from fourteenth to finish inside the top ten finish six Colton hurt his seven Sebastian Board Day two time winner the event he he was eight Gram Range Hall Ninth Marco Andretti was Tenth Santino Ferruccio impressive rookie again finished Eleventh Ed Jones was Twelve Zach Beach was thirteenth <hes> the fellow by Max Chilton Spencer Piggott Ryan Hunter Reay twenty non willpower Matteo Tesla's Marcus Ericsson sage and Tacoma Sato had some kind of an engine fire anyway that is the official Finnish and I- gobbled up most of the time with my rant about wiccans but I wanted to get that off my chest their yard the complete finish of Toronto Indian little emotion as well all the whole thing one by Simon Pasuq no and that's how you pronounce that all right Donna another pit stop but still to come the Subaru Raisani mailbag trivia contest then more wrap up of a Toronto Indie with our good Buddy Toronto Star wheels on Mr Norris McDonald this. This is the ranger line radio network. This is Simon and you're listening to raise line radio subscribe to a radio shows at I tunes or with your favorite pod catcher no medical exam or health questions will we asked sports net five ninety fan on demand Canada's National Radio Motorsport Authority by Gosh Radio Radio Network. I'm Eric Thomas. I think I've come down. Maybe not have a look at my Thomas Tales columns inside track Motorsport News Magazine and on the Web at sports net dot C._A.. A brand new issue out our good friends at inside track had a <hes> display on thunder alley at the Toronto Indie with the brand new issue to end Thomas Hills is in there with the <hes> Museum of Motorsport Eastern Museum of Motorsport in there that we we've talked about on the air and there's some photos they are so <hes> we'll look forward to having everyone's reaction <hes> to that because I was that was a fun article to do away with the Subaru Raisani Mellberg Trivia contest another price back to win if you qualify by answering the Su- trivia questions correctly in your email comments if you do that the entry goes into the brake drum and the winner is drawn at random out of that drum at the end of the on track racing season in November the qualifying Vine Trivia question you need to answer to qualify I was going to change it but Donna Says No. I think you should run another couple of weeks and I and I have to yield to the supreme. Commander's wishes and I will do that so here we go again with a twenty nineteen Subaru W._r._X.. Don't look at me like that as sti at the Subaru Sti what R._P._M.. Is P power achieve of the three hundred and ten horsepower turbo charged boxer engine okay. I read it again without giggling with a two thousand Nineteen Subaru W._R._X.. T._I. At what R._P._M. is peak power achieved the three hundred and ten horsepower turbocharged boxer engine okay okay us eric at Roseland Radio Dot C._A.. To connect to enter the Trivia contest to win the prize back I'll do it slower eric at Race Line Radio Dot C. A. Capital E. R. K. Symbol at race line radio. Don't put a gap between race on the radio because it won't work dot C._A.. Eric at Riceland Radio Dot C._A.. To connect and enter this here contest to <hes> get your chance to win the prize pack. Let's go to the mail back and get some comments and no doubt after my rant about the mishandling handling of the wiccan story by a national news organization <hes> maybe some people have some reaction to that who knows I'll let you overhear anything from those guys but <hes> it is what it is and I stand by what I said. Paul Anton Dearborn Heights Michigan a very good friend of ars listening along time he listens faithfully Sunday nights eight o'clock on A._M.. Eight hundred C._K.. L. W. in Windsor he says I always look forward to your show. Every Sunday night. Reception on the radio usually good during the summer months and when reception is weak during the winter months because of the sunset reduce transmission power rulings. That's right all A._M.. Stations have to reduce pirate sundown due to the ionospheric shift where sounding very scientific I can always count on the podcast from your co flagship station A._M.. Nine hundred CE channel. The Global Newsradio nine hundred c H._t._M._l.. I HOPE NASCAR he goes onto say E._T.. Has Not painted themselves into a corner of the recent Ross chastain disqualification. I wondered if by Big Bill France founder of NASCAR's rolling over in his grave singer Nascar is headed and <hes> NASCAR writer Jerry Bonkowski noted that NASCAR may be painting itself into a corner <hes> by taking the win away from chastain. This was a few weeks back. The reason is simple. How did his truck pass pre-race inspection in but failed post race inspection? This happens all the time and I always scratch my head when it does <hes> appall at something something break on the truck which caused the right height at the front end to fall below standards. Is that chastain fault unless NASCAR had ironclad evidence. Mr Chastain team cheated officials jumped the gun his wind should be reinstated and policies and procedures should be reviewed and changed. How many cars do you think would past post race inspection given almost all the cars at say Daytona or Talladega Ladoga had incurred damage during the race Nascar never noted that they check any other trucks besides chest pains to see the also passed post race chastain team did note that a part failure did cause them to fail the height inspection into something we talk talk about all the time what happens when NASCAR NASCAR SEASON Cup champion honored at homestead but next day disqualified from the championship because of a measurement issue what about Daytona five hundred winners that they were disqualified the next day in a similar manner imagine that the the expense and time consuming effort put forth by hockey fans see the leafs win an exciting game to find out the next day? The opponent was awarded the win because the goal of the lease stick did not meet a measurement requirement imagine if something like this happened at Canadian Tire Motorsport Park I can imagine that Ron Fellows and partners there would be unhappy Campers and you know what he's <hes>. He's probably right anyway <hes> he wants to go onto. Paul says he brings up a very good point here but you know NASCAR doesn't seem to care they. You know they have the truck measured before the race starts. Something happens in the race to get bumped or apart brakes and the car or the truck sinks now now now. You can't put the guide underneath it's too low and you're ruled illegal and disqualified. Some people think that's vastly unfair unfair. The taking of automobiles by NASCAR continues to be a rather hot potato and I know they're looking at it. Will they change a lot of this. I don't know but it continues to be a real bone of contention and a topic for debate on whether or not it's fair that a failed part or contact with another car caused the body to drop down and all of a sudden the truck or the car is too low doesn't seem fair and that's a lot of people that doesn't maybe they'll change it fall. Anton Anton brings us up again. I don't think the first time he's mentioned this and he certainly is in the only one is brought this up so we'll keep our our eyes on the situation to see whether Nascar wants to change something like that anyway. Paul always wants to play the game. He's a former prize pack winner and he can win another one. There's no rule against that Trivia Question T- twenty nine hundred Subaru W._r._X.. Sti turbocharged boxer engine of what our P._M.. Is Peak power achieved the three hundred and ten horsepower engine. The answer is got it right now. He knows he can enter as many times as he wants and and the other day pretty pretty good he entered Inter three times in a row because listener did that before and you know and you can do that you can you can fill that that <hes> brake drum any way you like. There's there's no rule against doing that. He signs up saying he normally does your longtime A._M.. Eight hundred C._K.. L. W. Listener from Michigan Radio heard every Sunday evening <hes> at eight P._M.. Eastern Paul Anton Dearborn Heights Michigan. Thank you for your <hes> your note Paul yet. I can always count on on you guys being pretty darn good in terms of his take on stuff to do <hes> with Nascar if you were down at the India semi note <hes> Eric Race on Radio Dot C._A.. What you thought of IT <HES> I? I didn't think attendance was very good on Friday and Saturday but it looked like a pretty good crowd on on the Sunday. We're going let me <hes> talking to Norris McDonald coming up here in in our second guest segment for his analysis of the race. The track is worn out. It still beat up. They try to repay some of it but you know what it doesn't even look good on television but it's a handful of drivers seem to. I think it's a Lotta Fun. What do you think Bracelet Radio Dot C._A.? Send US your comments with a twenty nineteen W._R._X.. T._I. At what R._P._M.. Is Peak power achieved the three hundred ten horsepower turbocharged boxer engine. That's the contest question you need to answer to qualify break on another pitstop here. Donna let me get Toronto Star Wheels. We said Norris McDonald on the phone for his analysis of Toronto indie one by Simon Badge no race line presented by Subaru for the element of Performance Handling Test Drive Beers at sports group this week anywhere along the race line radio report. This is Scott Dixon. You're listening to race line radio. Send us all your money sign up for our free podcasts at itunes or with your favourite bod catcher and we'll send you a free subscription for sports net five ninety the fan on demand absolutely leave free Canada's National Radio Motorsport Authority are twenty seventh consecutive season on the air across here this calendar we are the Baseline Radio Network Thirty Third Toronto Indie Exhibition Place Along the Lake Ontario waterfront this year one by penske racing's Simon Passion. Oh we've been covering this show since the very first Toronto Indie way back in one thousand nine hundred six. Why would we stop now well we won't for his usual spot on analysis and wrap up once again connect with the Toronto Star Wheel Section and we happen to mention a fellow Canadian motorsport? Hall of Famer are very good pal. how Mr Norris McDonald is back with us on race line radio? Hi Norris. Are you doing Eric. I think we're good. I think we're good. I started off started off because we always we always run out of time before we talk about everything I mean i. I don't think there was a dry eye in. I don't think there was a dry eye in the house. When we saw wiccans drive that car with carly around that track I mean I listen to some of it on the radio and man Oh man you could hear the crowd cheering and applauding? I you know I I had a little wet I too. I mean that that was that was an emotional start to the day. Wasn't it absolutely and you know I mean first of all. We got to put this all in really weird perspective when James Hinchcliffe nearly died in two thousand fifteen eighteen yep. It's the rest of the season the first race he was back at the track was the Honda Indy Toronto. That's true now. He didn't drive the parade Latin. I believe he might have said gentlemen or drive I think he did the fact of the matter was that this was his first time back at the track now we have whitten's and he took it a step further and he drove move the parade lap in a specially fitted acura. <hes> you know Hansen trolls because here's a paraplegic now <hes> but you know I mean first of all how coincidental yes that is true. How coincidental is the whole thing I mean I never I never failed to be amazed that Robbie Wickens was driving for Sam Smith who himself wheelchair? That's right accident and you want it to go even further. Did you know that Sam Smith's father was left a paraplegic as a result of a race. I didn't know that wow how absolutely it's incredible. When you scare US Robby Wiccan now rob you could've been driving for penske or at ready whatever he wants up and then he winds up unable to walk? Can't I can't the the irony of it. The irony of it is amazing. It really is crazy but you know something. You're absolutely right up dry. Not a dry eye of the house know very very emotional moment <hes> Kinda <hes> it's it's. I'm glad it had trek though because <hes> it really wasn't a very very well you know it wasn't with the domination of passionate. Here's the problem the first the first five guys <hes> all qualified one to five right now when I say that <hes> pass it on the poll he won the race Dickson started second. He finished second Rosenquist <hes> qualified third he wanted he wanted up but but you know seriously Alexander Rossi <hes> qualified for Finnish stirred so not a lot of changes. You are no yeah you'll garden qualified fifth finish sports. Yeah thank goodness for the other Canadian that we have to talk about James Flip Yeah because James Hinchcliffe started fourteenth and finished six six hard charger award. Maybe you don't believe it or not. He got knows go for that and other guy he was nosed out for that Herta okay a WHO qualified sixteenth and finished seventh so he on paper anyway was a bigger regard got in and hints <hes> had to do with a paltry <hes> at both both hinch and her two however <hes> takes nothing away from their accomplishment which was incredible but you know they snuck up. Both those snuck up inside at turn nine on the first lap of the race where there there was a little bit of a mealy and lay letter and half a dozen cars were stalled in that corner yeah so they kinda made their big moves up into the top ten at that time <hes> and then with pit stop so at the back but then the other guys stopped and they wound up where they were listen hard to Indie <hes> is is a great event. I really have to take my hat off. I back in the president <hes> Kevin Savary and Kim Greene the owners of the they had been beavering away year after year. They had a huge crowd today. The crowd was good. That is the first time that I and I'm a cynical newspaper man. Yes I know you are I can honestly say there was probably fifty thousand plus air today. It looked pretty good. It looks pretty good. I'll try because because veget- general admission area in front up the enter enter Care Center it was it was ten deep and that's good sitting in the grandstands. The wasn't wasn't and listen. You'll get a kick out of this area. You know a newspaper man. I notice things yeah. You're you're very observant. Fellow nurse Yes you. Are you have to be oh. I have seen scalpers at the Honda Indy before but not for a few years they were out in force today. They were the real dog. These were the guys that you see at the lead the game after their yeah yeah I know the Honda Indy again is a hot ticket tout does add I. I'm telling again. I think that that's just absolutely fabulous. It's solidifies that reason that the lakeshore is closed and a lot of fights the reason that it's a festival and it puts to rest by the way a little rumor that's been around for. A couple of weeks I was GONNA be my next question. Yep Race was going to go to host support. I do not think that it will I really I really think that it is that doesn't mean that no great but that was my question is GonNa pull that talk you know I think that I'd say I talked to Jeff Atkinson and I talked to savary. I bumped into him in the in the Inner Care Center today and <hes> <hes> They have the contract through twenty twenty one more year they have already started negotiations just to add as Kevin set one way or the other this racist going to stand trial and it's going to stay where it is in Toronto for the foreseeable future and they fixed the track though Norris in the fixed our you know something here's the problem yeah up then they have to convince the city to pave a repayment that's right and the city <hes> you know it's just it's not that hard to indy the city is the city is not WanNa give money and by the way I don't disagree with this. They don't want to give <hes> they do not want to give money to to sports properties that are making money hand over fist. They don't want to give money to the main place. I and I don't think they should know anybod- any team that can pay somebody eleven million dollars to play a game being any of my tax dollars. No that's true that's true but I think they need to repave it. They've got to find a way to convince the city because that that track Iraq doesn't even and it doesn't look good on T._v.. I know that's kind of a minor thing but you know what maybe it's not and and the drivers will tell you norris that it's it's a fun place to drive but that place is in dire need of repaving not arguing the fact that when the when the first Molson indy came in nineteen eighty six they citron paved pave the track now I remember paved attract. We were there and how was the last time I believe there's been sections actions. I mean I remember a couple years ago. They did pay the late they pay part of it. That's bad you know well in the race was and and the thing was that it created havoc because it was raining and the guys were slipping and sliding all over the place in fact they had to call off. I remember Saturday. I was wondering was a double header. That's right. I remember that and <hes> you know but anyway you're right out of find a way so find that angel <hes> there are people with money who you know. I'm sure you know people with money how to make money and so surely there's gotta be a way to get Sunday backtrack and <hes> and <hes> they'll be able to get a write off would aware and it'll be good and then you will talk about the money earned all right and everybody will be happy right. Exactly that's exactly the way it works. Listen Norris were always always delightful to get you on here. Yeah it was uncatchable. Simon pageant over the emotion of the wiccans thing was was amazing and the crowd and the crowd was good too so it ends on a on a good note norris. Thank you so much for the time you're a good friend in an a good pal and we appreciate your timing your expertise. Thanks for having me on an always. I'm always available. Thank you Buddy Norris McDonald from Toronto Star wheels the editor there and of course a fellow Canadian Motorsport Hall of Famer as well wrapping up the thirty third edition of the Toronto India Right McDonald's whipped together that final pit stop and then we're going to return the last lap for next week. Show lineup and more this race line presented by Subaru powered rather heart pounding W._R._X.. Sti Fourteen time Canadian rally manufactory champion on the rates Lawn Radio Network. This is Paul Tracy and you're listening to race line radio as an unlicensed doctor. We suggest a prescription for one of our shows sign up for our free podcasts at I tunes or with your favorite podcast here. Fake doctor's orders Fortunate Five ninety-two fan on demand Eric Thomas Across Canada on the race line radio network white flag aloft signaling one more to go so here's what we're setting up for you for next week and adopted the media center in Toronto enroll sound collective from Toronto Indy Winner Simon Panel of the game of dominancy was playing it perfectly all weekend long commute another outstanding developing Canadian racing using talent mentioned in the news windsors Roman Deangelis who was starring in Porsche G._T.. Three Challenge Cup plus more entries for the Subaru Race on e mail bag trivia contest but when checkers fly we say goodbye enormous pardon me race mark. Thanks going drowned star Wheels Norris McDonald Good Guy Justin Halian Nascar Media Simon Pashto and the INDYCAR radio network. Thanks Spring Commander Donna Pollard Vic Palladian as well for production in operating excellence so from all of us have race climb radio. I'm Eric Thomas Sulong. 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The Leviathan Chronicles

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"The. Leviathan chronicles. Seasoning three. The story thus far. Century in the black door group have reached the BUFFA Station, deepen the Congo jungle in Africa censure Rebecca. Von Wit Robertson. Jason. Styling have discovered a massive sinkhole in the rainforest that contains a mysterious stone. Temple Sterling has told Roberts that the aliens are inside and their plan will find leap again. Back, Leviathan mcallen has used a stone fragment to revive evangeline from the coma. She ended after suffering at the hands of the traitor. And Harlequin has brought his ward lives that to Leviathan, as well as a young computer prodigy named Ken in an effort to stem destructive virus that is threatening to destroy the city clerk ham has managed to slow the spread of the virus, thus buying Leviathan more time to eliminate the threat or evacuate the city and in Tokyo Japan ANA flight three to four from New York. City has just touched down in narrator airport with passengers, Jeffrey Tally, Toshitaka downtown board tally has come back to Japan to return Toshi to his father, Kazunori Tanaka head of the Yakuza tally hopes by returning to knock his son, he will gain freedom for his best friend Oberland Sin. Cra. And now chapter forty-three, the exchange. Ongo. Team you. Toshi Anton. Entirely entered a taxicab at Tokyo's Narita International Airport and directed the driver to take them to the Intercontinental. Hotel. In the posh Ark Hills District Anton had visited the her talent past and specifically requested the Tatami Corner Suite. One of the grandest rooms in the hotel to affect shoot the hand off to exchange Oberlin class for Toshi Tanaka in the taxicab tally removed a. Given him and made a very important phone call. When he finished, he handed the phone back to, Anton, you really think this is GonNa work. If you follow my instructions, probably emphases any problem. You know if we mess this up, I a realize what's at stake. Mr Tally, you just make sure you control your end of the bargain. Once, they had checked into the lavish hotel. Tally on waited anxiously for the important visitor that held their faith in his hands. Alone, figure exited the elevator on the thirty fourth floor of the hotel and slowly walked down the long corridor that terminated at the expensive double French doors at the Tatami. Sweet. The man knocked on the door which on opened promptly. My name officiate. I hit. See Mr. Empower. Obama. Fish. Gora. Yes. Mr Antonovich and want to come in Mr Mr Frederick. Please have Freddie. Entered the opulent sweet and couldn't help it stare wide eyed at the show stopping views of the Tokyo skyline and lavish appointments of the room. His hands fidgeted fretful as he sat down in a lush cream colored silk CIA beside a polished walnut table by the window. You say Intercontinental, hotel want to see me the. ICON to Tokyo right away I pay fast. When you call, we appreciate your prominence Mr Frederick, call me fatty. All My fans call me shake petty. Yes. MR, Frederick. We cooled you to Tokyo to discuss our latest order Beluga. Caviar that we placed with your organization recently, it seems there has been some deception on your part. Mr Frederick seems that not all the caviar you've supplied as with his uniform and it's quality. I don't know what you talk about Mr anti-us meet. Might be say good really Mr. Frederick. Then perhaps you could explain to me why fifty percent of the Beluga Caviar we ordered from. You turn bright green within the first two weeks cold-storage all. I mean caveat, very special like a cracker Jack. All were fishing turn green. Me Very lucky me who have good luck with lady. MR, Frederick. Role. With. My fishy. Maybe. Hotel store caveat. Enough Oh. Maybe leader frog get inside team McClellan. How Frederick feel. It's only fair to warn you that we have received some reports that would appear to cast some doubt as to the caliber of your character without me say fattening. Physic-. Fatty. Why don't you take a wild guess filthy son of a bitch. Powerful hands come down hard on his shoulders, shoving him deeper into the CIA. Sit down. You Squid Shit. It's time for a little payback. All all. Off Eddie. So happy to see you. So. Guy You. Okay. So coups chop off the head and body to one fish. How are you my friend? How his fist shop forward? Marching fish egg, Freddy's nose tally, the sides of Freddie's cheeks squeezed you little tiny nothing. You sold me and overland out. You sold us out for one Goddamn payday. You know that we would have helped. We always helped you out jam. We were going to get back on our feet and have you join our team on the Hail Mary and you you fucking turned on us. TATY TATY PEACE PEACE COUPS, Freddie. No Choice. They kill Ferdie Mama saw tell all my customers to buy for me. They take everything taty. Pretty handle choice nowhere to go. Peace Taty he's I saw very sorry I. Heard you an I, love Oberlin prophetic nobody. I got nowhere nobody onto for help. What about me Freddie I got nowhere to turn my shit goes bad. My boat blows up my wife Susan me I don't have anybody. Backing ME UP North Tari. You've got Oberland Oberland. Always stick by. Taty. Nobody Peace Holly these forgive thirty. I saw I. Know What my girlfriend tally stepped away from Freddie to take full measure of him. He was slumped over with shame even more. So than fear he knew Freddie would say whatever it took to stay alive. But he's still felt genuine regret emanating from the man tell, Zong, left him ready to exact a painful revenge upon Freddie, but for Oberlin sake he knew cool. Cool ahead had to prevail. Alright. You listen to me you little piece of C- Slime. It's time for you to make it up to me, make it up to Oberlin time for you to deliver. If I let you go and my friend and I decided not to paint the walls of this hotel room with your face. Then you're gonNA run some errands for Anton meet. GonNa Kill Buddy helping is going to kill you right now, if you don't do every single thing I say, and if you leave this hotel and say anything to Tanaka or the accuser or the police, I'm going to talk to the Intercontinental Hotel Real, and I'm going to tell them all about the scam you're running and your special fishing sauce, and then I'm GonNa talk to the cops and tell them about the smuggling you've been doing on the side to get all that caviar into the country. I'M GONNA. Make sure you go broke and that you get put in. In jail, and then then I'm going to call. Tanaka San Myself and tell them. You were the one that helped me escape with Oberlin and look at me. I will escape with Oberland so that he puts the word out in jail that you're a two timing, little weasel and a big enemy of the accuser that will make sure that the life sentence to get in jail as a barrel of laughs. You get me Freddie. Are you sure you understand how important the next few hours off the rest of your life because I'm not fucking around, but he understand. I will help you taty. I helped my friend Freddy No background, just get scared and. Best Spot I help you. I, told you pretty good friend again, good because I'm about to give you a big shopping list and you had damn well better deliver. The elevator on the thirty fourth floor of the Intercontinental Hotel opened. Once more this time a slim Asian and adopt tailored suit exited the elevator flanked by three large sporting tattoos visible over the next line of their Oxford shirts. They exited the elevator and walk down the long hallway to the Tatami sweet. After knocking twice Kazunori Tanaka entered the hotel suite with his bodyguards to see tally standing against the window. Good afternoon, we start tidy good afternoon Mr Tanaka Sir. Dismissal Rotan Fish Tanaka stead at the large platter of half eaten Sushi some scattered shells of mommy and a half dozen bottles of Karen Light Oh. Yeah. I'm sorry about that. We got in late last night and I was totally starving I figured hey, when I'm in Japan I gotTa have me some Sushi right. So that's what I ordered. I. Got One of those Oh me. Oh, my cossack plates. I. Guess. The housekeeping didn't come yet. It's still good the next day though tally popped a warm half piece of Tara into his mouth that had been sitting by the sunlight of the room how disgusting? No, actually it was right that great. But all right. Where is my son we study? Why don't you tell me where Oberlin is for you to see your friend Obering? When son is safely in my custody in I can see he's unharmed. You have already begun to try my patience. We study your son is close by in fact, he's in the hotel, but I wanna see Oberlin now gave me my son I. Know See that's not what's going to. To happen, this is your town. These are your gangsters and you have the advantage here. The only insurance I have is that I know what room number Toshiba's in and I'm not giving that up until me and Oberlin are safe. If you were in my shoes, you do the same thing I. Know You would. So maybe you can give me a little more of a hint. Where is Oberlin. going. To of the Yakuza gangsters, the tend to the hotel suite with Tanaka San Exited and returned a few minutes later with Oberlin, they each were holding him by the arm and shoved him towards Tony. Reentered the sweet telling overload overload. Holy Shit Man. Are you? Okay? The to be honest? I never thought I was going to see you again how the Hell did you find me? Don't worry about any of that? Are you? Okay. Those guys hurt you at all. Well, I. Wasn't getting any soft back rubs if that's what you mean, but no, no. Okay. I just want to get out of here. Me Too. I. Gave You my assurances. He would be unharmed in I have now presented you your friend. The time has come for you to on our agreement will use my son Mr Tarry. Where's Toshi telly switched on the television set in the room that was connected to an apple macbook pro with hdmi cable television showed another hotel room with similar furnishings as the sweet they were in. However, the room was much smaller and was dominated by a king sized bed upon which sat a little boy playing video games. It was. Toshi. Like I said, Toshiba's is in one of the rooms hotel. Are you playing a game Mr Tarry? Room is my son in well I am going to tell you what room your son is in, but not until Oberlin an IRA safely on a plane getting the hell out of Japan. I, don't think. So Mr Tally, I do think. So Tanaka. Look I've shown you the video and you can see that Toshi is okay. Twenty four hours ago. Your son was in New York City being held by mutated lunatic and being used as a bargaining chip against you. Now, I've got him back home to you I. Did that. Now it's your turn to let me in my friend go and never ever see us again. That was our deal. You Start Tony. I'm growing tired of your inability to grasp the situation you are in. This is into game. You're right. This isn't a game. This is my friends life, and we had a deal Tanaka. Our deal is subject to some. Renegotiation. What do you mean renegotiation? You Got Toshi back. That was the deal. I got him back from that Maniac Jason Sterling and I almost got myself killed doing it, but I got your son back. Now, we're even talk all debts are settled. Right? Your son is okay. I'll call you with the room number when I'm on a plane out of here, you may have brought to my son back. You did not adhere to the exact Tom's of agreement. Our deal was for you to bring Toshiba to me within. Within seventy two hours, fucking. Badge I. Look at my watch. I see over eighty five hours have passed since we had lost meeting in Okinawa covered teams. You have had of their hard time meeting your abbreviations in any contract. You enter Mr Tally. Seriously, you're GonNa Welsh because I'm a couple of hours late bringing your only son back to you from the other side of the world. You are also a man who has stored from me and should be punished for making me a fool in front of my community. But you have provided me with the body about savvy. and. I am not an ungrateful man. So I will allow one of you to be free and the other. I will kill quickly in massively between you and your friend ordering. Who Lives and who dies is entirely too you. The minute decide Jesus. Tanaka tally looked at Oberlin appeared shocked. Okay. Okay. Okay. Just a second. Can You? Can? You give me a moment? It can give you forty five seconds. All right. All right. I choose me. You can kill me and that overland go holy I'm not going to let shut up Oberland. Totally. It's meet. Tanaka, I'm the one you want to kill all along, but one condition I want to be able to talk. Talk to Oakland alone, I want to use my last forty five seconds or however long, you'll give me to just say a couple of things to my friend before you kill me I've earned that. I fucking earn that I treated your son kindly, and I deserve to say goodbye to my friend. He's the only family I. Got I would make your fear will brief one Mr Tarry in give me the room number of Toshi. Or high may decide to seem pretty cute. Both of you commute Oberlin tally glared at beforehand, he and Oberlin quickly entered the bedroom on the left. Tali a not going to let you do. Offer, the love of Saint Patrick, it smells to High Holy Shit in here. Openly shot up and take tally handed Oberlin a modified Leviathan dark gun as Anton stepped out of the closet silently and loaded his Amblin meet Anton, Anton, meet Oberlin Oh the pleasure is all mine you know I thought focused Anton you take left I'll. Take Right Oberlin. You hit the guy in the middle nobody misses got. Ten seconds later the bedroom door iot. Each man five, once hitting their targets directly Tanaka, jump back a shop and was suddenly crash Sean on the floor and Tarot. When each his bodyguard slumped lifeless to the ground. When he realized he hadn't been struck Tanaka make friends eat dash to the hotel suite. Your for time on had already closed the distance. Graph tonight chest from behind in the. Bachelor. Smashing into the elegant coffee table sending glass everywhere, tally pants, and sat on top of Tanakh test. Downtown now holding each could. Not going anywhere divulge to. Put Him. Telly, grabbed Nakas knows roughly and pinched his shot. Fix You Kuzbass thrashed back-and-forth gas desperately. Oberlin all give me that trae in the bedroom, the metal one hurry dashed to the bedroom and to town around his hand. And returned with rancid metal tray covered in blood and slime three, dead gutted fish lay on the plate. I wanted to spare no expense view Tanaka not after you've been so. Hospitable. So I, prepared a little Japanese delicacy for you. It's a tricky little dish. It's called Fuyu or otherwise known as pufferfish can tell using Orlands Tau grabbed a handful of the sized fish crash and shoved it into Tanaka Nakasone. I did a little home cooking for you a little saw she. Cut It. All Up. Myself. How's that taste and I? Guess. It's getting a little tinguely on your mouth Tanaka, screaming terrorist tally held both his nose and mouth shut forcing him swallow the slices of raw fish. Once tally was assured. The had pass through his throat. He released his mouth to bring you know you got to study for. Three years to learn how to cut Fubu just to make sure you don't get any of the poisons. Fish it's all in the liver. You know one little nick and the whole fish contaminated poison everywhere enough to kill thirty men. You you either die for these. I will die I will die. Well, the funny thing about food goo that I don't think you need three years. In fact, I watched a youtube video on the plane ride over here and I already feel like an expert. But that being said I don't think I'm going to be the one that dies I grabbed in up a handful of raw bloody fish slices and the thrust them and. Holding. His your shot house tasting. Now, Tanaka Little Tangy. I put a little seasoning on that last bit. I only had a Swiss army knife to work with when I was doing the cutting. So my people we re to with Japan. I wouldn't say that see you got a choice now Tanaka, you can trust in my Sushi making ability that maybe the Foo I served you is clean. Maybe I didn't nickel liver, the ovaries of a fish, maybe the fish you eight is fine or maybe you're nervous system is about to seize up pretty soon, moving your arms or legs or even breathing is going to get mighty difficult. I could call you an ambulance and make it get you to a hospital. But for that to happen, YOU'RE GONNA call your goons in the hotel lobby now, to tell them to let us pass through that we delivered Toshi and wick clean. Rather. Okay. Overland Henry, some more puffer pieces. Those ones near belly looked pretty appetite. Soap, but who are you sure 'cause? I could add a little Sabi or soy sauce just to be a four, hundred, it quick Retali- continued to sit onto his chest while Anton held down his arms oberlin dialed the number tobacco instructed and held the phone to the gangsters. They're. Choosing Got To talk show. You know they told me. You would do this. They said you would double cross me. Even when I lived up to my word, you left me no choice Tanaka. I can't feel my legs Ellicott off his chest and Oberlin. Anton. Rose up as well. They stood down at the man who now trembled slightly on the floor. That's the poison starting to work on your nervous system. You See I knew if I tried to leave here with Oberlin, you'd be on the phone getting an army of your Yakuza goons. Take me out tonight. You're going to be frozen for a little while Tanaka paralyzed. Paralyzed. The poison blocks your nerve cells. So you can't move no more phone calls. View Jebrane stays active. So you could hear everything I. Say while you can't move a muscle SUV me, but don't let me die. That's a lot to ask from someone you've been threatening and torturing for the past two hour chilly eighty-five. All right. Excuse me eighty-five. But you know what? I'm a better man than you I'm GonNa leave this. This hotel. Now with my best friend, your son Toshi is in room fourteen, fifty, six, I'm going to call his room and tell him that you're. He's maybe you'll get here in time before your lungs stop working and you suffocate NOCCO is now compressing himself into the fetal position. He was trying to move his arms but was having trouble doing so in a coordinated fashion, but before I do that I, feel like our. Our deal needs a little renegotiation to knock his is widening horror. My friend Anton here has some questions for you. Important questions, I. Suggest you answer him quickly and as honestly as you can to knock, you've been supplying Jason. Sterling. His black DOOR GROUP WITH AN UNCUT SUE technology developed by utilizing materials stolen from Leviathan. We know he is collaborating with to extraterrestrials. What did he want an uncut through to build for him? He wanted. Repute. Submarine to hide ten she, we know about that. What else? What else did you build for? Jason. Stunning. What's the largest thing you've built? The suny wants to the less permanent. The damage to your nervous system will be there was a station on coordination crucible. into. North nunavut devil. Under PRES. Thank you to knock a son with finished. It tallied urban of the Kazunori. Tanaka and legs twitched violently as his body involved Tanaka I know you can still see you. So I want you to look at me. This is me. My end of the. Tally removed his cell phone and quickly dialed number hato. She this is your friend tally. Come up to speed on the thirty fourth fast fasten. Can you data's you're waiting for you? Yeah everything's okay now, nothing to worry about. No. I promise you. He's going to be really happy to see you. Brilliant triumphant sky blazed across the cavern ceiling of Leviathan, flooding sunlight into the large floor to ceiling windows of the highest level of the tower. To, red headed women sat inches from each other clutching hands and crying softly enjoy evangeline. Her ladyship is conscious. Quickly, I want twenty milliliters of prototype clean and neuro- stimulator also get the BIOS got a prime. So. I'm right here. Can you tell me what you can remember? Dead Anton killed him after he attacked us both, it was him. It was Ben, knew that implanted the virus within Leviathan Not Harlequin evangeline upon hearing the name Harlequin this he? Did then you? Can, no. No, no. No. You didn't kill him. In fact, he's very close by hello. Harlequin approached evangeline hospital bed, and knelt on one needs to be a time ever with her. He brought her children mouth. Kissed it gently. Apparently all the queen's horses, men couldn't keep me away from I'm sorry father. Sorry for all the since I've committed. AM, sorry for doubting you. It's all in the past. Now, my actions have been less than admirable towards you over the centuries. I've been guilty as you for not clearly seeing what's in front of me. Stay with me Harlequin. The, forever, my love. Forever. Painfully, evangeline turn to head to the left to face McCowan. and. Carolina. mcallen's is shifted to shoot a glance at Dr Lincoln. Harlequin. mcallen. They escaped evangeline. We couldn't stop them before they jump through the keyhole. We we don't where they are Banjo. Lean. Took in a shop stab of braff squeezing mckellen's hand a how long since they escaped, it's been a few days. Now, we haven't been who else. Who Else has seen the aliens in the virus? Not many a few key members of the honor guard rushed into the catacomb chamber after the alarm had been sounded. But I'm not sure if they witnessed the aliens members of the leviathan council have been briefed as well as a few key personnel. We're doing our best to keep a lid on what you. On the sensitive nature of their presence Callan. To me. You have to find them quickly. Won't be much time of Angeline right now, most of Leviathans resources are being used to keep the city from collapsing the virus. Benue implanted is causing more and more destruction each hour. I, brought down one of the most innovative computer experts I've ever witnessed. He's working with the engineers to buy more time. He's done some extraordinary work, but it's looking like a matter of days not weeks eve. Some have even called for an evacuation of the city, but I think I can use the star stone. I found to reboot the city's AI and really. Serious irrelevant. It's far more important that we find the aliens fest. Whole concerns about the violin. City. Secondary. Deploy. All Dog, what agents to find. ELGAR TORONTO. Would eventually the city? Leviathan Could be destroyed everything. You don't find the aliens. It will all be destroyed any way. Along with much much more for the first time, evangeline opened her eyes slightly wider and allowed herself to look further into her room Harlequin mcallen. She could see Dr Link, Keith, the Watson and Robertson, looking on concerned as well as several medical technicians pairing in through the doorway, and the various engine is the to brought up the stone fragment from Zephyr evangeline weekly lifted. Her hand made a small gesture with her fingers indicating that she wanted something to write on one of the technicians swiftly brought her a pen and a small scrap of paper. She wrote four letters H. A. N. on the slip of paper before folding it and handing it to mcallen. McCallum read the word ties south silently. On Pain of interest has to do with. To donate, she wanted to ask evangeline about the meaning of the note. But when she looked down, she could see the ladyship had already fallen fast asleep. I'm sorry. But her ladyship needs rest I have to ask everyone to clear the room immediately. I promise notify you if there's any change in her condition mcallen, you should come with me. I want you to meet my Wardley set as well as get briefed on the status of the crisis facing, Harlequin? I? Didn't know that you has. It's a long story. Story I one that you really should listen to sometime. But right now we need to get to the engineering hub that working round the clock in the room trying to keep precious showed up and maintain the power grid within Leviathan fine. Make sure they bring the Star Stone fragment to the engineers so that they can use it to bolster our power reserves. Harlequin mcallen descended to the base of the Tower and drove yielding enclosed park bike to the engineering of that was located near the West Hangar Bay, the by allowed them to traverse the city quickly, and also kept mcallen plain view of the populace that would otherwise quickly swamped bombarded with questions about to Benjamin's condition. You think the city is going to pull out of this, never underestimate the ability of a situation to get worse all pouch further. We hear. Is flights down the under city level. Come on. McCallum walked into the engineering hub and down several flights of whitestone steps. She soon found herself in an enclosed room over two stories high with computer monitors covering almost every inch of wall space she. Found underachieve astronaut answer asleep at her desk with her nautilus rimmed glasses pushed high on her forehead. She gently rubbed the shoulder of the exhausted engineer. They're dreaming about electric sheep. Callan. Humaid. It back. You didn't was Zephyr Zephyr performed perfectly. You did an amazing job prepping our gear for the mission we succeeded because of your work. Thank you, council women. But the real reason we're still here right now is because of those to be under chief pointed to a pair of young adults sitting very close together in front of six large computer monitors the to appointing various flashes the to luminated on a citywide map, it appeared on one of the monitors in front of them. Other computer technicians swiftly approach the young land sitting in the left chair to confer with him or show him live information feeds on their data passing the young woman next to him, touched his arm. Arm. And brought his attention back to the Monitor Front Elijah I certainly hope I'm not interrupting romantic play, day Harlequin, the young girl stood up from his seat beside the young boy and approached Harlequin sternly, she looked like she might take a swing at the immortal, but stopped when she. So mcallen standing next to him the set, this is MS mcavan. Also the so-called. Messiah of the immortal race and damn good backgammon player from what I've heard mcallen. This impetuous Spitfire is my pride and joy. Her name is legit and she's one of the greatest thieves in the world. It's a pleasure to meet you I. Hope you can steal us some more time here in the thin also. Harlequin I ask you hours good to give me the Thomas Matic's for clerk. He's been working nonstop and you can't expect to, and of course, this is Mr Clarkson are computing project that we seduced away from the revelry of Defcon in Las Vegas Clarkin, rose tiredly to shape mcallen's these don't get up I mean it please stay at your desk because I hear your. Your the one that's keeping this place from imploding. Well, I wouldn't say that all of the engineers here have been working nonstop. How'd you been making out? We've been trying to set up a dummy I to literally lure the virus into deploying its resources away from the primary life support in pressure shield like I said, it's buying us some time but I don't know. Know for how long I'm hoping, you can offer us a better plan I. Hope so too. The engineering team is bringing over a star stone fragment that I discovered in New York that I hope we can integrate into Leviathans, power grid to sustain us it might not be that easy. Show me what you've been doing so far shore will have in front of the The main screen, and I'll bring up the firewalls anti-viruses that I create. But as soon as mcallen sat down and began to stare at the computer monitor clerk Hems, voice began to fade grow distant. She had a vague sense of weightlessness and can feel her body floating above the skyline of Leviathan, you only sensation that registered with his harlequins hand firmly gripping shoulders. McCowan, had fallen asleep in her chair Callan. You need to get some rest. Go back to your apartment contact. You shortly wants to get the star stone connected to the. Look like you could use some sleep. McCallum boarded the push potter, The Sky Tube, station Dixon Terminal to take to a unit at the Hukou Complex on the high Kabul. The skype network was running at less than a third. It's normal speed, but McCallum, wanted to see the view and take the bias in its entirety at least while still how can evangeline just let all of this, these buildings, all these people, where will they all into whom we just get lost on the surface high melancholy? Melancholy corrupted by the sudden stop, the at her residential complex, she exited walked a unit that gave her more stunning views of able park, tweedle boulevard, and the repair scaffolding that now surrounded the Great Cathedral. She could also see genesis zone which had been shut down and many cave hawksley dormant near the excavation entrance drink. McCallum went to hide cabinets, import herself as smooth glass of mcallister's Vinicius, and inhale the fragrant scent of Peres, honey and gentle smoke. That's good. So good, and then she remembered that the last time she had enjoyed aggressive finishes with Anton God, I hope he's okay. Hand totally should have already landed in Tokyo by of the racing bison hopefully, totally as incontinent both killed yet asshole McCallum was about to reach the Venezia's to pour herself a second glass when another strong sent invaded her nose. Sting mcallen then realized, she couldn't remember the last time. She had taken a proper shower i. don't think almost drowning in the Gulf of Alaska counts for much hygiene. I, need to shower a good. Show. McCallum walked into her bathroom and disrobed placing evangelise note her airings unhappy com on the salmon colored marble counter. Beside the shell shape sink. She opened the smoked glass door to her shower wave to hand over the motion sensor to activate the heavy slow four to directly from his ceiling and quickly pressed the red temperature butts repeatedly to raise the temperature of the water close to spalding McCowan stood inside a felt the heated water. Water beat down onto eighteen soldiers as she filled with water released and slowly turned allowing every inch of herself to become heated Mormon. The sound of running water calmed to mind and granted her the comfort to think one of the star stone doesn't work. Maybe the genesis zone. Now we need to go deeper, I should talk to engineering dense no scraps that I'll just talk to ask we have to evacuate. Where would we? Angeline have some sort of based on a service she must. McCowan. Stepped out of the shower and grabbed thick white cotton towel drying her hair and body vigorously, she reached for a cold glass of water to refresh us how often the steam shower and now. What loss on the floor she looked in the mirror, the notes of angeline left her. God angeline. You're right. We have to find the aliens. You have been listening to season three of the Leviathan Chronopoulos to listen to all of the season three. Right now and get the exclusive epilogue episode purchase. 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ML Ops

Data Skeptic

36:30 min | 1 year ago

ML Ops

"Data skeptic is looking to bring on to new team members for twenty twenty season. This role will be a little bit like a teaching assistant. A college course. Responsibilities will include include reading a certain number of papers a month being assigned an a one or two that you'll be the presenter on to go deep into few writing assignments as well as an on on air component. So we're looking for people who aren't just eager to learn and read the literature but also have some on air. Potential send resumes two jobs at DATA SKEPTIC DOT com. Get that to me before December I twenty thousand nineteen. We've got a few submissions already. Thanks to everyone who sent the window will close December first secondly Los Angeles California. We're going to be doing a live episode data skeptic at Pie data. La Good Pie data dot org slash la 2019 slash schedule to see a detailed listing of the three days of events. Find me on there and see what else is going on. Hope to see you guys come up and say hello if you. I don't know I actually have a special prize. I give out to people who meet me at conferences and stuff and that's the only way you can get it so come find me and I'll just go ahead and put this out there. La Data people. We'll send me your resume growing the team. You'll see some job postings on the website eventually when we get around to fixing that up a little bit but for now I'm just throwing out fishing lines lines. Please send two jobs data skeptic DOT COM visually. There'll be some automation there but right now you're getting straight to me. I hope to see you guys at our live. La Show at pie data. Eighty to twenty one thousand nine hundred. I am Damien Brady. I am a cloud advocate for Microsoft. I talk a lot about devops and machine learning up slightly as well being getting into that. I've been a developer for about twenty years or so now paid developer so yea I've seen a whole bunch of different industries and different types of applications but L. is still a newish thing to me. I Guess Yeah Yeah in your career you've seen or at least in my opinion in that time period significant maturity in in software engineering from this wild west to very nice version control that people like instead of hating and collaboration and CD and it's science fiction compared to how things things are developed in the ninety s completely. I feel like maybe you were on the same but an earlier. Pathway machine learning how do you look at it yeah. I think that's a great way of putting it. I remember I was talking to somebody about this yesterday that I remember when I was at university we didn't even have source control subjects. Like none of stuff which now seems insane nine like you wouldn't do any stuff without source control and for me I wouldn't try to develop software without also having build and continuous delivery livery at least maybe not continued to plummet but you know this whole process of building stuff together mode strategies poor requests all that kind of stuff is just par for the course us now and I think is this area where all of the projects could probably benefit from this similar ideas to a great extent. But it's not quite there yet yet. I think the process of actually delivering machine land models into production systems is still a little bit. Similar to software. Development was a number of years ago. So let's put our thoughts shoes of a young developer young machine learning engineer. Who has been working very hard jupiter notebook of some CSV and now how they've come up with some model and they think it's done? They're in for a big surprise here. What kind of things? Don't they know yet. Well the first thing I'd say is actually kind of went down a rabbit hole. How with source control for Jupiter notebooks? The first thing I learned remember this is like an email was a relatively new thing for me. The first thing I learned is that cheaper notebooks contain. Not just the code that you run but also the output of that code and things like what auto sales were running and all that kind of stuff as well which kind of goes against the way that software development works where what you put in source control is not the output you put in the input code source control so just adding Jupiter notebook into source. Control Control means that you're adding different versions of the file when different people run on their local machines and then you get merge conflicts that way it's difficult to work with and control. In general there are a few techniques. You can use to get around that but in general I like the idea of working in an exploratory fashion in Jupiter book. But using that as your day to day exploring the data working out what you can do with that. Data has that tool. But then anything you want to collaborate with with the rest of your team goes using if you're writing python just goes into pure python and you can quite easily export a Jupiter notebook to a python file. I think it's convert or yeah. Yeah a little messy. You Bet it works yeah. It doesn't get enough job. I think I've got a post in the works actually. Doing automated strategy is a clients. I'd get Hook so when actually make a change to Jupiter notebook you just I commit that change and get hook will pull the output out put it into an html file in a different photo so you can actually look at that output later on if you want but then strip down down the notebook and also create a pie file in another folder as well so you can automate that later on. It's sort of like a very very high level compiler almost almost yeah yea data scientists. Get the right. Their notebooks in the software engineers. Get something that looks like Python Python but has some weird comments in it. But we're going to go exactly right and I guess the other advantage that that gives you gives you a path and file which you know when somebody makes a change to a notebook and commits that code. You can just run that python file in environment. You don't need to know about Jupiter you don't need to know about the order of cells and things like that it's just running python which any system can do any builds can do actually training the model though is kind of going to be different. I guess yeah. Yeah so that doesn't in my mind have a great analogy to software because compilations compilation Asian. That's the closest thing but it's very different. Yeah how do you look at the model process in it. Yes because I'm coming at it from a development background. I do see a model like like a training run as equivalent to a built. But there are obvious differences bright a long-running build for a piece of software might take an hour. Aw something here. For two long running build a long running model training process you might be talking weeks months huge amount of time and very CPU CPU intensive and computational intensive gp you intensive but very daughter intentive as well like. There's a lot of Iowa going on to do that. Training in a lot of cases. This doesn't really happen with the bill. Which means just taking a built over and saying okay now on just run this thing? That does the training and he is your head about two daughter over there. That's I mean it doesn't really line up particularly well so I'd say that in a couple of respect one is that long running tasks on managed managed terribly well by CPI service so having separate tooling and separate products that manage those life cycles a little bit better as an important thing as well. The other part of it is the daughter itself and the code itself. It's very easy to version code source control but burgeoning data is a whole different story. Yeah and it's still important like when you get a predictive model at the other end. Do you want to know what data was used to contribute to that model and in some cases in some countries as well it's one hundred percent vital you can trace what was required. Why it to get this model out? Yeah I am I using this discussion about GDP as well he was somebody's personal information. Used to produce this model and if they ask you to remove that personal information from your system do you have to retrain the model. That's a very interesting question and I don't know the short. Would I think that's one of those things where you let the lawyers decide how they wouldn't interpret it. I mean there is some amount of information content in that record that is perhaps represented in the model. aww But at the same time a model where taking out one data point drastically changes. It is not much of a model. Yeah that's very point. I guess yeah but I mean legally. You may be required to do this letter and whether you are not like whether you decide you are not knowing that that data was in there and contributed to that end result is probably important As well which means at some point you've got to be out of say from this model. What was the code that was used to produce the model? What was the data that was in that and I cannot Hanno reproduce it later on if I want to with code like we building an application? That's relatively simple like most of our tooling. Does that quite well. We have our build out of facts that we deploy we. We can trace that back to the changes that were made in our repository. And then from there you can look at. Ideally if you've got the right tooling the work items or the tasks that the the developers were doing those ideas all the way through to what's running in production with machine learning model that didn't production too little bit harder to get back to you. Know he was the data that was I used. I think there's no silver bullet for that. I think a lot of that is kind of. It's a daughter engineering problem. A lot of people reinventing the wheel here And myself included I built one system where we materialized S.. Three and we've materialized blob storage and that worked out another case we stored the original Query Yup. Even though that you know you'd also have to have a snapshot of the database. Technically was sort of worked well enough in that case. What other use cases if any do you see? I've seen a few people do things like periodic extracts and just realized that at a particular point the training data going to be out of date by X. Period of time and that's reasonable I guess to a certain uh-huh size of data I mean if you're talking about pedder bites and you want to take a snapshot every week at a tough problem. Some other ones around daughter engineering as well could be things like. I can't remember the exact term for it now but like only daughter so you never riding over the top of a record. You're writing a new version of that record and your time stamping it. Which means you can just just keep writing data but at any point if you need to go back in time and tell you? What was the data at this point where we did that training? Run like this. That looks like because it's all there. Yeah yeah that's probably not always possible you can have immutability go for it. Yeah that's what I was looking for. Immutability yeah so if you can have that that does night that problem them a little bit more achievable. And there's other things like reference data that doesn't change very often probably don't need to snap that as much but that's a lot of work up front. It's like well ahead of time. And it also might mean changing other applications that have been there for a very long time just to get a result for new application in a reasonable traceable. Way So important. It's just a difficult problem to solve. I think yeah. There's also so many different ways in which people do data science aren python very similar tools tools but at the same time also very different Yep and I see people in both of those two worlds getting stuck at one stage they do a lot of good work and they come up with a model and to take the the python case then they know they can pickle it and then there's kind of this. What's next phase? Yeah and again. Lots of reinventing the wheel. Yeah what are some of the maybe more mature options Shinzo emerging depending on what type of model you've produced as well. There are a few different ways. I know that as your machine learning team is looking very much at Dhaka rising rising knows containers and in just providing. 'em points inside that container so you get a model like a model for example and they would use something like serve and then they would wrap it in a container and then deployed to Azure container instance or Azure community service. Or something like that and that can be done in Asia machine learning we'd like a a single. API call you. Basically say there's my model docker is it. Put it in a container and now it's an accessible in point so you could use adding your application. Generally we're talking about operationalizing the exactly and it depends on your use case like leads great for Web applications. It means you can scale really well. If you deploy to an KS Kosta Asta and it performs reasonably well can scale that up and down really really quickly and that works but if you wanted to embed it in application than you probably want that model in a format format that you can use in your application. I like to think of that in that case. Bit More as a resource like a dependency or an artifact library. Something along those lines. So you have this whole bill process that has produced this artifact. which is a predictive model organism? Immortal that model is essentially just an object or a dependency that an application can use and it should be item potent as well. Yeah or be immutable as well. So that if you deploy that to a particular mobile application for example people like you can keep deploying that one five two different versions of that mobile application and a unit get the same model. But it's this package aboard portable kind of thing that you can keep using using Microsoft's put a bit of work into on. I think is an format as well and I know I think a lot of the auto stuff that tin machine learning. Uh I'm fairly sure that that's battalion onyx file but don't quote me on that and then that is a cross platform like the run time I think is now open source. I believe so. Yeah yes so the idea there was to have like. Here's a model format that anybody can use anything they at totally interchangeable. Yeah so having a portable artifact act as the result just the same as you would have a portable executed file as the end of your software development. That's a thing that you have produced that you can reuse in different places. Yeah so there's a lot has gone into the version of that execute people. Even if it's not quite an executable in the cloud anymore it's other things there's still a strong analogy there Howard people tackling this problem of change management for models? Yeah that's a tricky one. I guess so. You mean change management of different versions into like a rolling out different versions of models. Let's jump down the road a few paces from our setup situation now we've got a model in production and six months more data so we re training and we believe the new model is better for some reason. We'd like to switch it over but that should be done with caution. Yeah definitely and I think this is where you get the best parallels with devops with devops we have traditionally you would have your artifact you'd have your version of your application and in there are a whole lot of techniques you can take into account when you actually want to deploy that out you don't want to right over the tow production without testing it so there's obviously the testing pre-production stuff but then there's also techniques like Canary Deployment. So roll it out to a subset of your users see actually performs maybe even ab testing so have both versions the old one and the new one of your model. Oh in production at the same time and then you monitor metrics that determine whether an ideally it should be is this giving me or giving my users better value in production however you define value. Yeah and again kind of recommendations engines are a great way of telling the story of. Let's put two versions of the recommendations engine in production and test them and we'll see what click throughs we get on each of these versions and so if I knew one is not performing. Well then we're all up we. Just you know I wins and be goes away. You can also use techniques especially if it's erupting applications like feature flags so if your application is calling one or the two different versions of the predictive model you might be calling the one that already exists if the flag is turned off and then the new one if the flags turned on that way a you can deploy it slowly out to production environment and if you find it's not performing you just tend to flag off again and you don't need a redeployment retraining. You don't need to write anything over the top and these are all things that we do software development. Yeah I think they can absolutely apply to machine learning as well those same kinds of techniques we're trying to deliver better value to production action and so determining whether what we've got in production provides better value and doing ns safeway it's absolutely applicable. I think so I think in my mind. The machine learning problems little harder because in my experience with software at the moment of release you pretty much know if the release was botched your some chart somewhere that either drops or jumps to one hundred percent and it's real time right. Yep a machine. Learning model could start making recommendations and it's hard to know you you have a drop off or monthly active users decline slowly. Because it's really an ecosystem that's being changed. Yeah I think that's totally fair. I think rather than you know. Hey we wrote this code and we went to production and it died therefore we know that this was a bad deployment. The analogies doesn't fit so well with that it fits a little bit more with. Hey we moved this menu item slightly or we put it under a different one. Are People still using this feature as much and you don't really get like you can't see that immediately. You might see that uh over a period of time I know for example. The Asia devops team so the team that riot devops itself. They have a definition of Dan which is good software development meant strategy way. You say this feature is complete when we've done these things or this work that we're doing is complete when we've done these things and usually it's things like all the codes written didn't like we've got tested around at all those tests pass and maybe it actually deployed to production. They take it one step further and say there's also going to be telemetry in production action. That tells us where the reason we wrote. This feature is a valid hypothesis. It's like experiment driven development driven development. So what that means is you don't really know whether a feature is done until a period of time afterwards when you'd be monitoring how people are using it so they will want her to things like how many people started added using this feature and then stopped using the feature because that's a pretty good indicator that it's not performing well as not providing value and I think those parallels are a little bit closer where you're deploying this predictive model recommendations engine out. You're not gonNA know immediately whether it's better or not but if you do ab test for a period of time you can compare those two models against each other or even if you deploy it all the way out to production you have your historical data about how people using it and then your current data are we doing better federal not than maybe roll back a little bit. I think that does seem to be pretty much. 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IRON SCHOOL DOT com slash terms. Learn more at flat iron school dot com slash Nash data skeptic a lot of times I find people arrive at the model. They get deployed and they might be done. Maybe that's all. The company needs an image recognition. The system that finds defects in the product and the variety of defects doesn't change never needed update that but other systems and maybe the stock market would be the worst. You probably need constant constant readoption. How do people deal with those challenges? In your experience I think less continuous the improvements that you need to do so if you have that project where the output is this thing you never need to use it again. And especially the data science projects which aren't necessarily machine landing there might be things like give this a high level of where we should focus our attention for the next twelve months and then that is one report and you don't look at it again for twelve months. You don't do that again. For twelve months having a fool fool pipeline for that is not useful. Sure I guess unless you do it every single year and you find that valuable so those projects I think ah the more separate data from continuous improvement. The more separate they'll be from the applications they run in in terms of how those pipeline cadences go. The application that uses is those models might be continuously improved but the model itself is not so you would probably have those as two separate pipelines so the model training and the production of whatever they put for them. That data science project is is one thing that runs want you get these output and that is an artifact that your application uses just continuously the application might continuously update. But the model is just this artifact that you use and then maybe twelve months later you have a new version. So you start using that when you building your application. If it's more continuous and more kind of embedded in the application and uses usage from the application and so on then I think the data science teams and the development teams need to work much closer together and your devops people your operations team. Everybody frankly everybody marketing product management that kind of stuff. If they're all in the same room at this point then that means that you can kind of align those cadences and say well look. We're releasing these new feature. We think we need to put effort into this part of if that model let's align the process of building these applications build them together and then embiid the model in the application and actually have that synchronization between the teams. I I think it's more important than I. Guess if they're continually updated as well yeah all that even if you have a beautiful CD pipeline setup. There's still work to push releases through and verify things and all that so once you've got your model out in production you sometimes out of a tough challenge you know. Should I go and invest in that update. Should we do this ceremony quarterly. And of course you know just like the use cases earlier the image recognition thing pretty clear stock market other cases different businesses evolve in different ways. Different problems may or may not kind of reset themselves from time to time absolutely. Are there any techniques. Sure where for tackling situations like that. Yes so there. There are a few techniques. One that I know that as machine learning team is working on and it's they've got some of it working at the moment I think there's more and more to come is the idea of data drift so at a high level if you set up a machine learning pipeline that uses a known data set and that data set might obviously change. You have more daughter added and so on but if you train based on that known data set and that is your training data set you can produce a model that comes at the other end and you know that that model was trained on that known data set win that models in production. You can eat up. Whenever somebody makes a request to that model you can save that request data to another a non data set which is your production? Or you're infringing data set or you can dump stuffing the influencing data's batch jobs and then run them through the model and so on and then periodically you compare the training data set with the infringing data set and it will look for skew that dot org drift of that data and if it reaches reaches a certain threshold it will automatically kick off that retraining pipeline using the data that you've been using in production as well as at some of the really cool things they're working on is they're looking at when that model gets produced at the other end as a result of that actually compare that model and performance against what's currently differently in production and determine that when we did run this training with what in production actually is performing better with that data that we got in production. So it's not. I'm just assuming halfway production data. It's going to do better. It's testing that before it does any kind of deployment as well. Some of the things that are planned they doing a different levels. Also training runs as well. So whether you just reaching your hyper parameters or whether you retrain using the same algorithms on the new data or whether so you just do an entirely new like auto training run that reese elects the algorithm based on the data that you've got as well and look at the performance of these different algorithms against each other UH and does a complete new generation of model like all of these things at different levels to give you something that you can be relatively sure based on what we've seen in production this does perform better. Let's slowly roll it out so some really cool stuff with that but actually comparing what's in production with what you trained on is at a high level kind of technique very neat. Yeah are there any rules of thumb for how you look at that like I should put five percent canary traffic in. How long do wait? I always hear you should wait at least a week because it could be a weekly seasonal affect which I always foundries toward or no. I think it depends on the gender type of model as well but I've heard people actually having a lot of success in some cases especially retail and stuff with using models that have like reinforcement loops and things like that based on previous time-series daughter. And all that kind of stuff and so that to a very specific acidic kind of scenario if your loops in your model graph I kind of time series based and you do it based on a week ago then you obviously need to leave it in for a week. Look at least before you're going to get any real performance impacts but then similarly if you have a recommendation engine and adding new products every single day then matching it with the data that comes in is probably at that same kind of cadences probably important as well. Yeah I think it depends very much on what that data looks like. I guess like if it's constantly instantly changing data like your example of stock market stuff having a retraining strategy at a really tight cadence is probably important whereas if it's the same product catalog log for six months and then maybe you updated then you probably don't need to retrain every single day. Yeah the other situation is really that real world pragmatic thing of look at training. Run takes a week and it costs fifty thousand dollars. I'm not going to do that every week. which by the way? That's a realistic number for some companies companies right tasteless. That is absolutely there was somebody I was speaking to in one of the devops teams. He's been doing some work. Trying to work out pipelines for accompany. That's doing self driving cars. I'll try to remember. This has caused generate something like ten head of Dada a day or ten terabytes of daughter. Either way it's enough that they can't like just uploaded over the wire so they have like a physical box in the car collecting that data. And then we'll take that physical sequel box and send that to the cloud like Azure box. But they have them in the car and so that data just to do a retraining like that takes. It's a very long time and a lot of compute so they can't do that continuously. I can't do a daily run because it's too much data like just cannot do it with a reasonable cost. So yeah that is definitely a consideration like it might cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to do a training and you can get into techniques like doing training runs on what you think is a reasonable subset of that. Data just approve out ideas but again nothing is the same production really. So yeah. There's a few techniques I like that but ultimately you're exactly right it depends on that environment depends on how data is used and what that data looks like when you were outlining drift. Want to see. If there's a point of clarification I love to get. Is it the old model. A new model. How predictions might differ or is it the old day to new data? That's being compared it kind of both. So it's the new data against the old model and the new model so you can compare there is if you use training data set. Can you continually use this. The training data annual production data set the oil production dot US. It just gets added to the training data set sure and you can specify I only care about ninety ninety as real and that kind of thing but then that new model that's produced is compared against the old model. That was there against the new data that you're getting it was both. It's don't bite the old model and the new model compared against the new data to see how it's actually performing. Yeah Yeah so then I can say well. They're different but in either a very minor way they were a significant way and judgment call. And there's nothing like it's not necessarily true that if you train on the new production data that you're going to get a more accurate model necessarily I mean you'd expect that it would but maybe there's something about that new production data that means that the kind of techniques that you're using give you a very skewed results could be marketing data and your competitors have changed. Their strategy is. Yeah you need to adapt as well. Exactly right yeah. I'd love if we could go through. Maybe a a survey of the tooling that you see most people adopting that notion of like. Oh we're going to work in terminal a notepad or just to Jupiter Notebook. Seems a little naive. How do larger scale projects projects get done? So this is a little bit out of my wheelhouse but what I've seen a lot easier. Typical tools like Jupiter notebooks studio kind of the ones that the data scientists themselves using for the pipeline stuff. I have seen people who just trying to like kind of retro Fit Standard. Ci Systems and then just deal with the whole long running task idea Kube Flow is actually quite a good one. which is a little bit more focused towards running training jobs using Cuban? Eddie's clusters Anton Anton so you can define a container that will run the different stages of your training pipeline and then that can scale up and down in a cluster based on how much you can paralyse it and things like that. So Kook flow is one that I've seen a bit of. I'm obviously like leaning towards azure machine learning because it's one of the things that Microsoft especially he's working on a lot. I'm not familiar with it. What is machine learning? Yeah so it's a series of services basically that really around that whole story. So there's there's a number of different parts to it. Ultimately from an OPS perspective there's a concept of pipelines which is almost like workflow of different stages for training pop line. But then you have first class citizens like a model like Berge and model until you have a model repository when you finished your training you register model auto and that model can be a collection of file. It can be whatever you want. But it's this version except the model and so that can be version didn't traced all the way back to the training. Run you can. In mine experiments. It can connect to all sorts of different data sets and data services as well and that's kind of a first class citizen as well. He is a data set or as a data service given experiments. That ran nice. You is foreseen the output in the process of those experiments. And things like that. And then there's a few other things like resources that can be used. Used like Azure compute and stuff like that. So I mean. I don't want to run my training on my own machine. I don't WanNa pay for stupid amounts of hardware that sits most of the time so you can have scalable compute that when you actually. QA training run. You can say right. Used this compute cluster. That I have and it smart not enough as well to have scale abilities so you can say the minimum number of nodes of this is is one or zero and maximum number is ten so if you can paralyse your oh a training run up to ten different machines then it will scale them up to ten if you want to speed up that training. There's also things like low priority compute so if it's not time sensitive you can use lower priority compute which means that. We kind of use bear compute in the cloud and that is much cheaper. We have those machines anyway. If they're not being I used to. Hey maybe they can do your work for you and you know. It doesn't cost us a lot more so it won't cost you much more. Modern equivalent of the Grad student midnight in the lab. Right exactly. Yeah they basically weekly free. Yeah so those kind of concept all kind of paired together to give you the ability to define a training pipeline the data that pipeline uses the computer that I used to actually do that training and then like the registered model. The DACA endpoints if you actually choose to deploy that way and the Cuban entities end points and all of that stuff kind of in that one portal to allow you to kind of manage your science projects or your machine learning projects as well Gotcha. Yeah on the Model Change Management Side. One problem I've had to tackle is okay. We had a great model version. Two comes along and part of what made it better is. We came up with new features. We have no no longer this apples to apples roll out its extra challenging deployment. Yeah definitely the actual model itself would just look different. Is that what you probably would say. It's a classified same output but we went from ten features to fifteen features so the input for what has changed inputs change year that can be a Turkey one to kind of align them. Because that's going to require changes to whatever application that actually API and all that kind of stuff which obviously would change Enj- however you deployed that as well so it'll change the application that calls but also the API from what that looks like and then we kind of get into other stuff that software the development of same for a while with API Beijing. So you might need to keep both versions of that model in production at the same time and then have some kind of way of verging. And and mapping the request itself to the correct version of I mean you could probably also put a layer over the top of the new one that accepts the input from the old one though. That's interesting enriches it with. Yeah potentially if that's going to work. Yeah Yeah not. A may not that new model or even contain like have both models in that same thank container and Independent on the input feed it through one model or the other that stuff obviously in Asia machine learning. I don't think he's out of the box. Sure definitely not have those model artifacts yourself you can pull them down. Wrap them in your own container. Put that kind of service over the front of them and use that technique to kind of kind of faded out but yeah. It's not an apples to apples thing anymore. And you suddenly think about what the interface to that looks like. Yeah yeah well we start our conversation about how much software engineering has changed and machine learning deployments on a similar path maybe wind up. Can you talk about ten years in the future. Pick your favorite in what will look like then my ideal scenario sorry I would be. It looks very much like how developed wax now where it's difficult to imagine somebody software developer thirty years ago for example thinking too much about that entire pipeline and ownership of the code. They're running in production with monitoring and telemetry that feeds back in and runs through that whole pipeline and stuff like that at that point. The Writing Code Code Works. They've copy it to a machine that goes into production. They're happy and I won't tell you that. That's certainly not the case in every organization like some places to work like that. I think I would love to see if the machine learning projects that are out there and the data science projects that are out there in in in years. I don't know let's pick that it'll be wrong. If that is a consideration of data scientists job as well or machining experts job is that they have that ownership of the code that they're writing now the training techniques and algorithms that they're using and all of that stuff that ownership of that is in production and they know that if it's it's not performing in production they will see it because they have been part of that pipeline that runs all the way through to production they can preempt the changes that are going to be needed and that feedback loop of you've had is this before me. In production houses providing value is just part of their job. Like they see that feedback loop the stuff they care about his amplified. They know how to fix it and it runs all the way through sorry. I don't think the tooling quite there yet. I think that will require years of maturity but yeah I think that ideas have been around for a little while. It's just a matter. Serve everything catching up. Baking a little bit still. I agree we're on a good trajectory better exciting times in the future. I think definitely cool. Well the wind up. Where can people follow you online? So I'm on twitter mainly day movies. Dam Oh visa. You can pretty much contact me anywhere with Demo Day. MOVIES COM AT MICROSOFT DOT COM I think that's the best place to get hold of sounds good. Well thank you so much for coming on from having me

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LADS#205 - Serie A Recap, Champions League Update, and Fan Questions feat. Jerry Mancini

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LADS#205 - Serie A Recap, Champions League Update, and Fan Questions feat. Jerry Mancini

"You this thing or you're listening to loud Americans discussing soccer today. Marin is not on on the show but today we have a special guest. Jerry mid Seaney. Am I pronouncing that correctly. Yes you are all right Jerry. Well I thank you so much for coming on the show Taking some time to hang out with some degenerates like us What exactly is your soccer resume? You you are a huge fan and you do a bit of writing correct. That's correct. I currently work with the locks. Ya I basically clearly Site that I started working for when I saw them on twitter at saw them asking for writers and basically asked if I can join in the enemy. emme on and then from joining with Stephen Moore. I basically expand myself and I met Richard Frank on city. I sit down which are also aw part over world football index and I worked with World Football Index. And then I met any wisely. Who brought me onto valuable? Who Show me actually premium by? Show me a link and on twitter and Basically I just basically grew from there and I took that experience and I took something which I I thought I would never do and basically made it into something more than I expected and now. I'm starting podcast with Sabrina. Beaumont Day play by play and so that hopefully that We'll we'll have fun with that and basically just see where it goes but just this myself having fine and Just just taking it day by day and enjoying cultural and just learning more and more because I I am still getting by this. Came back into the bigger things things but it's only been two or three years. I've gone back into cultural since my trip to Europe has changed me plus two coverage finally grew bigger here. I I am able to find sources now to to actually watch it on. TV has maybe five six years ago. It was very hard to watch because they took it off. T. L. N. which who is one of the main channels nationally and Arlene. TSN In sports. Your don't really show anything but I'm Alaskan. EPL just a liberal listeners. Know you are currently in Canada correct. Absolutely I'm from Toronto. Nice all right. I was up near there Kinda. How far is that from Niagara Agra falls not not that far away like hours hour and a half an hour okay could have been ruled in the sixth year that would have been pretty tight What so you were saying is are you? So you don't get like NBC Soccer NBC sports channels now. They're finally getting the coverage better up there absolutely absolutely dazzling now which is zone actually and That's twenty dollars a month but I think the best thing that has been has come from for me personally comes with Champions League. Europa League has epl this season and has city up. But it doesn't have the French or or the Spanish league but there is Fubo. TV also have which provides me coverage for like South American League. A has the Has the LALITA. Lita has gone. So that's something that good here that finally there's I know it sucks re people who have to spend on top of their the cable bill but died something that I think for twenty dollars a month if you're a big cultural fan of our football in general it's great and it has other things like NFL NFL as well. It has all the boxing matches for for disown. So it's something that is worth if you're GONNA use it but Yeah finally the Sunday I can use to watch football so my next question is what is your sounds like you watch like all the leagues where I'm just mostly Premier League league. I do catch like the big matches the classic Os or The Milan Darby or the classical. Like our hop around the leagues and definitely. I watch all the Champions League. Is there a certainly that you favor the most or what's what are also what are your teams that you support so last year before I started getting in writing I just basically took the whole season just to actually understand all the league so I was watching Lita Leon City the EPL and I would basically watch at least twenty games on a weekend. I would watch the three four games from league on three eighty four games from city I would watch a few games from EPL. And then I would watch a few games from the league and I will always make sure that I watched. PS This g Barcelona Lashio and Chelsea. I never missed any games because I felt that I liked cheering for a team in every leak it makes it feel better. I can watch just a regular game without having to cheer for team but with that excitement of having a team to cheer for it just makes visit that much better so those are the forming teams. I would cheer for but it just me understanding the game more in each league actually plays and I. I found last year that the league was really exciting and whereas I thought that was more tactical more formation mation wise the more defensive more strategic and. EPR's very running gun and if you're not fit to play you you are not going to succeed in EPA which. I thought why he didn't succeed as well in the wash to Chelsea whereas with invented this here is an example. He's doing much better because he suits dot type of league that speed and he can keep up saw things. I thought you you you start to adopting you start to learn and understand and you see Excuse me you know. Gave a lot of grief the fat Batman as we go home on the show. And you know it's good. I'm happy for him. I'm happy that he's exceeding now. Good for him. So you say you're Lotto in Chelsea fan that would be correct correct. Yes okay so. We don't do a lot of Syria Coverage on this show we do our best. Actually one of the main reasons we got connected was was because of our good friend. WHO's a part of the red card report? Make sure to subscribe to them. Ruis a great guy. So I'm glad I'm just been networking and making these connections and friends Jerry. I already consider you a friend and I WOULD BE AMISS IF I didn't mentioned Ruisseau thanks again to re. He's the man I do want to ask ask you what is going on with. Syria is I mentioned before we don't do as much coverage Inter Milan has just got knocked out. We're GONNA talk a little bit about that and the sacking of into Lada. Goes back in there to kind of whip the boys back in the shape So what exactly is going on with the Syria race. Well before that I. I love really by feel bad for him the fact that he's chosen. AC Milan favorite team sunrooms lender. Nah I'm getting very kidding with you buddy. You're okay. Yeah but what. What City I? It's it's you know what this is. Probably the best season in a long time. You Got Inter malign on with thirty eight points you've got you've with thirty six points lodges with thirty three points. Kalaiana eight with Twenty Nine Romo with twenty nine so the gap from from I F F is nine points and finally we have a race this season that is not decided in two months with the season instill up to go normally it side to win one team race where you event is normally beats beats all the teams already by twenty thirty points. And you're like oh another season. Event is winning so quick. But this isn't a good job this season adding players such as Lukaku Kaku in Gordon in the back in Baramulla and Sensei while while I was able to keep their core of Malinkovich savage Luiz Alberto and the the added quail season which would which helped chair be and they were able to keep immobile so they. They've looked very exciting. This season season as their match against events had shown Saturday one of the best matches this season and that it didn't feel it didn't upset doc fans when they were watching and you got caught. WHO's having a Cinderella Season I? I believe they're doing very well with Nainggolan coming over from Inter on loan and nineties has come over and then you have seen me on Ed and that that that team looks very exciting. Very very strong offense. Events Diet is has shown a lot of grit and a husband given up so you got Roma Roma was impact as as a club that had question marks on the back. End With Cheney coming in Vertu in the midfield and you had Chris Mullin came in. You weren't sure that how Chris was because he was paid as a player. Man Man United who failed who didn't succeed expectations. And now you got this player who who's probably baby center back in the league this year and has done done a very good job on with Rama so a lot of a lot of good a teams. This season has made it very exciting and made city much better. And when you hear Leon always. PS ONE PS one. You can compare the same with city offers so many seasons well events is already one reinvent is already one and and basically I laugh from people. was that sucks. Leave on socks gus. The worst talent and when you watch it's nowhere comparable to city up but I think there's one thing that you can compare between the the two leagues is that they always have one team that is so dominant and has won the League for so many years and now finally said the not being looked at as a league whereas ep on this year looks like it may be that Liverpool has already gonNA walk away with it while Leister is just eight nine points behind them if they lose to them. I believe a week before boxing day it could just be paid as lead up to who easy so it's nice. City is happy in a very strong season with all the clubs up top and it it gives it much better. Lanta Atlanta's twenty eight points as well right behind Roma so very good to see at least six teams within the thick of the race. But we know that the the four five six time to drop off. But it's good to see at least two three teams in the race. Yeah my questions are going to be For starters his Can enter really pull this off. They recently got knocked out of the Champions League which a lot of people I think. ESPN has headline that. This could be a blessing in disguise. Do you really think you can really pull off this miracle. It almost seems because as you were saying you vent is has essentially had this locked up for the past. What is it? Eight seasons seasons in a row I'm very very happy because like you were saying the stigma for all the other leagues such as even by Munich. Barcelona ONA as you said. PSE and event is essentially by halfway the season already over with so it's very refreshing and now the premier early could always hold onto that like. Oh at least title races close for so long and we have more competition. But it's kind of the roles have reversed so back to my original question Can Enter. Pull this off. You think absolutely but I'm just curious to see how Conti manages bench because he now he's no longer in the Champions League but he's still going to be in the Europa League an by context. I wouldn't put my best players it. You're oblique when when he does have matches on Thursday our uses the players I he elects not to use as much in the city. I give them experience which will help his bench in the squad for the Scudo title and in the long term will allow br Burrell not to be over US sensing not to be overused because the are battling through injuries as his whole midfield is battling through injuries and so I would. I would suggest that Inter. She do what they can to prevent further injuries in the second in half the season and having from dealing with a week midfield day they lent Nainggolan to to Collier d which has an unharmed he would have been a benefit he would have been beneficial for the club especially with the injuries that they're dealing with right now so it all depends. All all contact manages his bench so like I was saying before if he starts using sensitive Morella like Kaku Martinez take over more than he should even with your open league. I might hurt him in the long run. And what you've meant is now locked up in the next next round of the champions leak. They're they're focused is going to be one hundred percent on On the champions by you never count. The event is even for this good that don't even though they're in the next round because this is a team that knows what it takes to win saw. They're going to be with. They're going to be within striking distance until the end. They only loss as well. Only one match so you never. You never count dealt the winners. Until they've lost. I saw that. That's just the way I see it. You've is still adjusting under. Sorry so it makes it to see how long it will take AAC until you start seeing. Sorry Ball Sorry Blah. Doesn't come until after the first season but he he's doing a good job in in you eventers a the players and the fans. Just GonNa be patient. Do you feel as though this new role for Rinaldo is not being taken and overwhelmed by the fans. Do you think that might be it. I also by Rinaldo possible undersirable. It's more possession attacking but he likes to work from the backfield. Not so it could be that Rinaldo maybe in a new role. He's not used to they. There were reports that he he was battling through an injury that may have been affecting his game that aging. Maybe he's not as young as you used to be. I think he's he's just of of bad form and he's he's hit a rock bottom right now he just needs to get out of it and until he starts find that good form that that made him successful in recent seasons. This is something that may be new to him and and he's just battling through adjusting their And the next team I want to talk about who is an in. The Syria title race is Napoli. Who recently just sat Carlo? Ancelotti the eyebrow himself Do you think that was harsh. I mean he was sacked immediately after qualifying for the Champions League scoring four goals against gang. what's going on over a Napoli. I think this is a Bab- bad decision. This is an owner who's not taking accountability pretty and it's just put in the the blame on the coach. The coach is always. The scapegoat. Doesn't matter what sport it is when when things are going bad odd even if it's from management above it doesn't matter what sport hockey basketball Baseball or whatever it may be when when you're losing zing or the results are not coming or or the. The change room is not together. In the team's not cohesive. It's it's always GonNa land on the coach and it all leads back to when Dula RENTA's wanted to take his team Ango to the training ground while it was international break and he'd he wanted them away from everything for two weeks and weaker to and the that the players went and then he left the day. After I saw a lot of the players left at the after. And that since that it's just been a downhill for the club and the players didn't it didn't take it well. They were not happy with the decision of the owner and the coach. He didn't rebel against nor did he. Did he like the decision. He's just went and said yes but I don't think this is what he wanted for his club and the timing is just pour. It didn't and how either it's a time that were I understand. He's players make a lot of money. But when you're when you're going to training ground for two weeks you're not going to see your family your kids. They're the work day and night. They play in Europa League Champions League IMI BE International Games. It may be the season they still hop priorities and they have obligations just like other people do and it's unfortunate that the results haven't been there for Napoli Bud. Why don't you don't you don't take these players away from their family when when it's a two week break and a chance for them to see their Kisner in their wisner's there's policies or whoever it may be just just a piece of mine? I and I think the best thing that would have been for this club is everybody just separates for two weeks cleared undermined justice regroup do do what makes you happy and comeback and it may have been just what they needed. Not Not Training during during a time that that is important to them and and for not. This was something that is seem that he couldn't battle and you can tell by the results that they just. They're just not winning. You see them in seventh play in some in place now and they're really far. We're back of the standings and it's going to be tough for them to to make a push for for champions. Either they're eight points eight points by it's never never say never because teams other teams above all with fine bat form but they go through injuries or whatever it may be but this is a this is a situation where Napoli Napoli had not seen themselves in a long time and was when Sardi was With manager they were. They were seeing results and Enchila- not continued to play Saudi ball last year there. He'll on it and this year he he finally adjusted to his formation which may his his style coaching. That may may have an effect on the team that maybe they weren't happy without the beginning or whatever may be but overall I I blame the owner and is is a tough off task for. I think that I don't know what to think of it. But he I give To`sell has the experience of being with me. Lana a big club. Just as well maybe even bigger and the heritage and the background and history and he played with Milan John and he's coach Milan now. And that's something that Napoli fans should look at. That's very important that he knows what what it what it means to be coaching. Big pressures and what it means for the players to be playing in those situations as well so I think that he can he. He's a good short term. Fix For this club. I don't know if he's long term but I feel he can bring some energy into this club a different environment. Maybe a good vibe that Napoli has has been missing for a while that maybe ANCELOTTI and Delores does have don't they don't see eye to eye may have affected trickling. Lean down into the dressing room. So who will see eye the season still long. You still got over eighteen games. Still to go saw saw things do happen right. Yeah oh no I feel if anyone can light a fire under players assis it would be conducive because that is a it's very scary. Scary man so The next topic I wanted to talk about is the Champions League so we had Champions League matches this week and now we have round of sixteen which include pse by Munich Man City you ventas Liverpool? Barcelona Red Bull Leipzig Valencia. Real Madrid Tottenham Atalanta Athletico Napoli Dortmund Leon and Chelsea who. I was trying to tie myself to see how fast I could do that. and looking at the the these teams we got a lot of the usual suspects in here Who Do you have your money on a little before the pod? You Kinda told me but is there three teams that you think have what are your three teams. Have the best shot of winning us so I feel my first. Liverpool Liverpool is just seems that they are very deep on the back end very strong on the front end. I haven't washed a lot of Liverpool this season but I caught glimpses of Washington against Chelsea. DNA they're they're very strong in the ball very very well organized the way they bring it up there very tactical and cloak club up. Clock has done a good job with this team and he may just have them winning a DP L. and Champions League this season the way he hasn't going another team that I'm very impressed with his. PSG and they've they've dominated their group. I believe that they've done some really good acquisitions. Summer were the The acquired Hikari from Inter which he has done a really good job. Upfront and something that Maybe a lot of fans a lot of people in general didn't see coming with PS Jeevan with his attitude. And how how the situation when an inter. Maybe they thought he was going to be viruses cancer for purpose and he hasn't been that type of player and he's just came in has done his job and he continues to score and they came first in a group that had club rush Real Madrid. And God site GonNa Sorry Sorry and I would have thought not Real Madrid. Would've taken this group but it was when they went five one not losing a game so they they. They don't really a really good job this past summer and acquiring players that they needed and another team light stands out to me has been buyer community but by rich is great. But I wouldn't. I would be careful with them. Because they're group is very weak. The SAVITA ambiance goes by is and at Tottenham and our group did finish off the way it should with Byron finished. I Anton Anton finishing second. I feel that had. They made that coaching change much earlier. In the season a may have changed the way Tana Ham. Approach the Champions League and it may give him more more wins in this group but aside from that they stole came out second and it might cheaper picked his Chelsea. What the what the ban the transfer Ban Nabi lifted? I feel that if they do some some good things in the January transfer window and acquire the needs that they need the back end maybe another striker and they have the money in the funds to do it. Chelsea does crazy things and and they're that team that the Bible four players because they're able to do it could compare to other clubs and I I'm I'm just curious to see now now that they're able to buy incident buying in the summer because of the ban. How that will hold our trickle down and one other team is man? City Never Count Batman Pity even though they're showing even showing they're not in the best warm recently in the EPA and the dipped a bit he never count dealt man city. 'cause They Concordia Ola just knows when. Turn it up and They they've shown like last season. You'd never count them out. A he. ICU Not mentioning. Barcelona I mean. We're talking about the go. Aren't we know no love for Barcelona. I love a liberal. I'm I'm a diehard messy fan. I think I personally think he's the best player in my time but I doubt I just find that. They in recent seasons they they don't too messy dependent and and it showed last year when he lost against Liverpool and I still I can. He's still tastes that the loss against Liverpool and they were up three on aggregate. And if I'm correct on that and the lot four four nothing in the second leake get through your fear for nothing. It was four nothing. Yeah thanks to the legend Righi and Trent Alexander knows cheeky. He throw in Yeah do you think Liverpool has broken Barcelona that is a broken deem after that match. I don't under a broken. I just think Volvo already discussed this guy has to go. He's just been way too long. He's been there. He's been there for way. I have no idea how that man still has a job. Yeah they're so. Oh they're style so predictable you just know how they're going to play and with with. I'm surprised that there be team was able to be Inter on Tuesday. Suzanne catch the game but to me it. Just that's just an inter cy beating themselves more than Barcelona beating Inter so so offer me Barcelona just just too messy dependent and when I watched him last season. I didn't catch two inch Barcelona this season but in the results at the loss this here and last year anytime messy is not in in the lineup with the amount of money they spent and and the performance they put they put out. It's so poor you would think that a team that has the funds to buy so many good players they bought i. I forgot what somebody to be honest. I was a big one. Yeah he got the guy from I ex Diong yet young. Thank you but when you buy players such as I am. You're still struggling willing to perform results. It's either you got the raw manager that should be sacked already or you're just not buying the right players and sometime and just spending spending the cash is not is not always the answer so it's just a team that has recently filled in different ways and I feel they just need to figure out how to play without messy in a lineup. Because if he ever gets hurt this season when she's he's been hurt multiple times. Is this year it. It can hinder their their chances to win. A champion Zeke. Yeah I feel as though teams just do a little hacker messy and they just hack it his legs old. That's that's the only way you're gonNA stop him and that just leads. The injuries and team should be punished for it. But at some point like when you're just making your game plan messy I mean what do what our teams expected to do. Oh you know what I'm saying absolutely So Jerry I love having you on the show and I'm going to now do fan questions. Are you Are you ready for those sure. I'll turn onto them as best as they can. All right The first question comes from our instagram followers. That lads podcast. It is from Sam June period to seventeen he says. Do you think James Madison will end up as a Manchester United Player. Y Not I'm going to. I'd say he will but it won't be until the summer. I feel like lesser on this historic year for the club. And I feel he's going to write it out with the team but I do see him going for a hefty St Penny in the summer. What are you say is is he on free transfer in the summer? I don't know his contract. Sorry this contract coming to an end or or is he Uh contracts don't matter in soccer you can buy players as you want. Who knows? I think you'll probably I with all this talk about him. I feel as though it must be something where he must be up in the the summer off his if even case I feel that I feel like Chelsea combine him they need. They need a player such as himself also I could see Chelsea coming in Arabia Liverpool Liverpool. Maybe by him someone someone who who can afford him Wallah will buy them by It'll be interesting. Yeah maybe many united maybe manually like you said they they do need need a midfielder. Everyone is linked with Manchester United by do know like especially with Martin our co host on the show he is. He is literally salivating at the mouth. The thought of James Madison coming to his club and all his buddies all the man united fans are pretty much. Saying it's a done deal already. I don't see it happening in January. I see more of the summer transfer and even then lester you know. Some players ended up just staying for a couple of weeks and then the kids really young. He's really talented. And let's see how lesser season ends next question comes from my phone locked all right we'll get Tiki Taka Star. He says will Siri offense ever not be racist ooh but really they will the clubs ever actually do anything to stop it so we didn't actually. We spent a lot of time Jerry talking about the racism problem in Syria. And it's obviously and other leagues but it feels as though the media the most coverage or the most attention seems to be coming from Syria. What is your take Such as like I can't pronounce it category. It seems to be a big corporate In some of the other ones with their monkey chants and other horrible racist. I don't know propaganda. Horrible instances what. What's your take on all that? So it's funny. How you ask question my my wife just met this guy from Italy and and she started working with them and and and comes home one day and she's like committed Italian guy and he brought up this racism thing? That's really bad in Italy. And she goes he quoted at Borana is probably one of the most racist places like city of all Italy. But he goes the problem with Italy's they still live in a time where they're still backing fifties and all that I don't know how to adjust to modern era and how to change and so this is this is a country that doesn't adopt things differently and and being a lot so fan like the alternate I believe in being neither flashes and it side because these are. They're they're they're they're. They're promoting things that that we were trying to stop and so it's something that that the League has done such a poor job with and for for the fans people to to accept this in Italy. It's very sad and until the league actually steps up in does something or even UEFA or whoever it is someone's someone's got to step in and two teams. I've done a good job. This season has been a C Milan and AS Roma and they deserve credit because their their their platforms for their media has been really good and they can they. They've done especially They've done a really good job of of voicing their selves also and basically going against racism but they need to take a chapter out of the EP l. e. p. l. does a good job saw sold man city versus Man United Game. There's a fan who did monkey chance and now he's banned from going to any games. I don't know how long but it's a a very long event and an inner city is you. Don't really see that often where I believe. Roma Debenham A Fan this year for for similar conduct and so which is nice to see one team stepping up in need you need all alternate teams or two thousand eighteen or whatever it is twenty teams to to actually step up in and basically Start doing these things because if you if you allowed the fans to get away with it they will instance with Verona the slap on the wrist for their for their conduct and and Borussia steps does even do they. Knowledge when closure you mean acknowledging tonight find it means that no you're just gonNA keep on getting away with it and till teams fall suit just AS Roma Mulan are doing with their platforms and an issue all twenty teams doing. Then you'll start to see a major effect because the actual league itself is not going to do anything and it's very sad. God Yeah I definitely think Harsher Pondimin punishments acknowledgement of the actual crimes that are being committed because people will think like. Oh it's not like they're actually hurting being anyone which is also like what are you saying to me. these are actually. These are hate crimes. These are harsh horrible words and I feel as though they should be punished. Only by the club But to the full extent of whatever that may be so the next question we have is from. CBS seven he says is got MC Tommy the next coming of Christ all right man you got a lot of fans of the show. I love got me. Tomini Scott. Mix Us but let's not you know the guy is still still a kid. I think he's very very good. Was Not put them on this site. Pedestal of Jesus Christ but I I'm very excited to watch his progress in the league especially at Manchester Chechen united. He's been doing a great job. Yeah I haven't watched a lot of his game the season EP. I've heard good things about and if he can continue. Can you still you twenty three years old. So he still has a lot of time to develop but he's taking You know what he's taking this opportunity with team that didn't do much to summer her to acquire players and they did address your back end but He's come in. He came from their use system. Right yes sticking. Yeah so good that it Someone's coming up in Houston and someone's making season much better than what it has started the season man. United Season hasn't been the greatest this this year but That's something that they can be very happy about and look forward to for the future for them right. Yeah absolutely I'm the next question I have is from our discord channel. It's our chat room where people who are fans of the show fans a soccer fans of drinking just fans of stuff you can come hang out and chat with other people who are soccer fanatics like us First question comes from Brian Angelino. He says says this is for you. Mostly Jerry what does What do you think Chelsea should do? And the January window on the whole we've looked impressive relative to the preseason season expectations and I wonder what the introduction of new players or players would do to the squad. So what do you think they should do in January. I I get centreback after watching the game. They really do need a centreback Christianson. He doesn't he doesn't impress me. I really the Games. And he's had some very bad games. Emerson's been great. Research teams have been gone on on left on the right side as bill quite has been used on the right and the left side so I I do feel that they do need a centreback. It's it's starting to show. That's their big weakness. And I would. I would suggest maybe getting another wingback as well talk to help out with WILLION on Maybe the less the right side. If I'm not mistaken but He abiding fighting center. Centreback is most clearly need in my in my opinion. Maybe another striker as well. If they're going to send out that they're going to send out drew true I would I would maybe suggest not like an over not over. The expensive striker is someone who can come in. I'm happy happy with with with what we have with. Bachu why I would like to see but you. I play a little bit more but but you can't just depend on. TV tammy behind and how just two strikers is very thin especially that we have abandoned to the next round of Champions League so that that would be another another area. I would look at a would not get a midfielder no midfielder. I think we're good on midfield. You Got George you got Kovic. You have Contact a lot of good players in the midfield that I'm hoping that they don't go in by another player that they don't need so that that's not sometime Chelsea's style of the day by his players. I think that they need but they don't really need. So that's my biggest Larry's is a centreback. I and maybe another striker. Yeah no I totally agree. I think. Just sure up that defense I think frank has the young Young lads playing really. Well I think there Already above any expectations regions that were set in the preseason as Brian alluded to so I love this fun. Exciting underdog type Chelsea team in our last question comes from drunk uncle he says. Would you rather have Greenwich Jacka David. Louise and Mustafay permanent starting eleven arsenal players for the next decade or wake up every morning by getting punched in the face I would wake up can getting punched in the face every morning. No no question about it Jerry. I as an artist. I'm an arsenal fan of of the show I would. I would get in the face by Mike Tyson every morning instead of living with them in my mid in in my squad for the next ten years I anything that has ever Louise Good Luck. I never yeah we take her mouth described squad. We WanNA WE WANNA game. It's easy cancer. He he's cost you a couple of times this year. Yeah he doubted Louise. Give give it than eat. Take if he is literally The Bane of my existence. He's my mental health. It's a rollercoaster with that guy But Jerry thank you so much for. We're spending time with me Going over Syria. I know a lot of the fans show will really appreciate that since we mostly covered premier league if you'd like Go ahead and plug in all the things as you're doing in terms of writing and appearing also your podcast. That'll be coming out soon. Thank you I much appreciate that. And thank you for having me on a really appreciated. Oh Oh yeah of course What what are the I just WANNA go over? The show's again. I I I. I'm sometimes when I talk like a Word Salad What do you if you want to go over? All of the places you're writing again and What's the show? You're going to be starting sorry about that on. Maybe starting. A show called play-by-play podcasts. Let's sorry my wife was messaging me until I got picked up the bus station in ten minutes. Oh my jerry. You're having a Canadian on the show. You're so polite. You guys really match. The guys are the sweetest people but yeah go go right ahead. I know you're rushing to go. Pick up your wife so Just go right ahead I got Was Surreal Day. We're going to be doing the play by play podcasts. So that's Becoming probably next week are for SEPSIS. Owed it's just about sitting and just culture in general and I'll be getting some articles for Laleh and World Football Index and get Italian football news and I do some match reports for a foul on side as well so those are some things that I have working on right now and who won't with basically all all right well Jerry. This has been an absolute pleasure. I really appreciate you coming on the show and For All our new Syria News. I'll definitely be turning to you and Rui Louis for my main sources. So thank you once again. I don't think you think you and I apologize about that again. You Canadians are two nights later. Mad Some uh-huh.

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"The qualcomm we believe in staying connected and you can see us wherever five g is helping transform telemedicine supporting remote education empowering mobile. Pc's the invention ages here. Learn more at qualcomm dot com slash invention age and Hello and welcome to the daily beans for wednesday march. Third two thousand twenty one today. Fbi director christopher. Ray testified before the joint senate committee about his agency's role in the insurrection. Intelligence the manhattan district attorney drills down on. Cfo alan weisselberg and his investigation into the trump organization. Governor cuomo faces allegations from a third woman. The pentagon announces security aid to ukraine texas lifts cove restrictions and the mask mandate biden makes a major announcement regarding cova vaccines and we have an update on the mary trump lawsuit. I may jean. And i'm dana goldberg. Everybody we have a big show today. This has just come in now. The white house has just withdrawn by the way the nomination of near at hand and that was not in our introduction it was not in the original script but that has just happened so mansion strikes again. I'm very upset about this me too. It's it's unfortunate and we've talked about this before in the podcast There's very good chance at this is tied to retaliation based on Her holding his sister or daughter sister which one daughter daughter i think daughter accountable for an epi pen scandal price-gouging so it is frustrating. It's frustrating indeed. It is also frustrating. We couldn't get one republican to vote for her also today. i'll be talking with mary trump. We're going to discuss her lawsuit. She's got an update for us on that and also I'm going to ask her about alan weisselberg. You've you remember him from the earlier muller. She wrote days when he had a non prosecution agreement with the southern district of new york in their investigation into cohen. An individual one We'll see how that goes. I think i have an idea. And i'll talk to her about that as well. And biden has made a major announcement. Today i'll talk about. That's the lead story. And of course we have good news and then thursday. I'll be speaking with the author of the book. American compromise and his kgb source who says russia had been grooming trump's since the eighties. And as always you can join dana and me on stereo The stereo app which is a free app to download. And we do that every thursday at five. Pm pacific time. It's super fun. I am looking forward to. It's one of my highlights of my week so we will do it. Yeah so we have a lot of news to cover today. We're going to get to it all so let's do it. Let's hit the hot notes. Hot notes all right lead story today. Huge frigging news biden. Today gave a statement about the covid vaccine you know. The fda is the johnson johnson. Emergency youth author- authorization He said we should all be encouraged. He's a when he came into office. Johnson and johnson was behind in production in their vaccine wasn't coming fast enough so his team worked hard to accelerate that effort. He didn't go into any details about that but he announced a major step forward Johnson and johnson and merck are now going to work together to ramp up production of the johnson and johnson vaccine. Now these are bitter rivals But joe biden was able to get them to work together he also is invoking the defense production act to get to of merck's manufacturing facilities up and running to manufacture the johnson and johnson vaccine. Now like i said merkin. Johnson and johnson usually competitor. But they're working together now with the help of this administration to to roll out this you know to really ramp up the production of this vaccine to help meet meet the goals that the administration has johnson and johnson also taking the additional step on. Its own of ramping up. Production by operating its manufacturing facilities twenty four seven and he also said Biden also said. He's invoking the defense production act to manufacturer machinery and supplies needed To get these vaccines into arms and that he has employed the department of defense to strengthen and support. Johnson and johnson's efforts he thanked johnson and johnson and merck for being good corporate citizens. He harkens back to how we used to do. This with Corporations in the defense production act in world war two and then he made a very bold prediction dana. He said we will. Now have enough supply of the vaccine for every american adult by the end of may and that is just huge. Yes that made me very happy to hear very very happy to hear. Listen i know that pharmaceutical companies. There's money to be made in this but in the situation we are in. It is unfortunate. That the country itself like when madonna and pfizer. You know they got this vaccine at past why that recipe was not spread to every single pharmaceutical company that produces vaccine and get this white out for us. It's just unfortunate. We don't live in a country that that's you know that capitalism takes over on it it bothers me a little bit but i am glad i have hope i really do have hope by the end of may we might be getting back to a little bit of a enjoyable life say outdoors and maybe i can travel and performing you can travel and perform but it appears that there are some governors that are trying to thwart. Oh yeah this idea. Yeah we've got these two dip shits in mississippi and texas handing each other each other's beer's gonna let me see if i can out dumb fuck you and we're going to just take away mask. Mandates and reopened the entire state so the governor of texas and mississippi. Listen i know there are good people in both of these states. You're governors suck. They both announced on tuesday that they would be lifting their states mask mandates and rolling back many if not all of their copa. Nineteen health mandates. Just one day after the cdc warned against complacency in the face of emerging coronavirus variance. Now this is part of the problem. Shortly after abbott's announcement governor tate reeves in mississippi. He announced that he would end. The statewide mask mandate there as well effective wednesday of this week. So as you're listening to this pairing people. Mississippi think it's a good time to take their masks. Soften go down to the photo rutgers. Okay now on monday. The cdc director rochelle linski strongly cautioned against this very rollback that abbott reeves were about to implement about reports. That more states are rolling back. The exact public health measures we have recommended to protect people from covid. Nineteen linski said as the daily white house. Kobe briefing so when under say. Please hear me clearly at this level of cases with variants spreading. We stand to completely lose the hard-earned ground. We have gained. I do not understand the g. i don't. I don't only thing i can imagine in texas. Is that better. Aurora is probably pulling incredibly well and so abbas. What trying to kill all of the voters. I don't understand any other reason for this. Yeah i it's we're just we're literally steps away from republican politicians just killing their own constituents if that's not what's happening now and it's also very infuriating that while it's incredible what biden announced today And what he's done was able to do with johnson and johnson and merck and of course the department of defense in the national guard and help actually rolling out the vaccines themselves That could have been done a year ago. Absolutely with this especially with Masks and and testing supplies and he never didn't want he didn't want to invoke the defense production act but now we have a president who does right and that sob. Who said it was a hoax. Oh this is just going to go away. it's just a hoax. He had no problem getting his vaccine in private at the fucking white house in january. I'm so angry about. I know me too. And and how many thousands of lives could he have saved. But you know. And i'll talk a little bit with us about mary later and you and i have talked about this with mary. Before that. in order to be a hero you have to accept some sort of responsibility and he just simply wasn't willing to do that. And which is unfortunate because the biggest number of people that are vaccine. Let's say anti vaccine are white. That doesn't make any sense to me. All we had to do is make an announcement all had to do is make an announcement anyway. I know we have a lot of news. We'll keep coming back to this so please please continue. Yeah no problem. it's just. I'm as frustrated as you are because we've lost hundreds of thousands of lives and a year yeah also. Fbi director. Chris wray testified today called the capital attack domestic terrorism multiple times but wasn't able to. He was unable to explain the intelligence failures ahead of the insurrection. Although i don't know that i would call them intelligence failures he did. Definitively debunk all the gop questions. A lot of the republicans were asking about antifa and left wing actors and black lives matter All those questions posed as trump supporters by test that he basically they kept asking. Hey how many antifa people were there posing. As as insurrectionists where you know posing as trump supporters and chris wray definitively said over and over again none there were no antifa antifa. No black lives matters people. There were like nothing it he actually said well. First of all he testified. None of the arrests or any of the ongoing investigations. Indicate they were antifa. black lives matter other. Anarchic groups responsible. Ray went on to say several insurrectionists were specifically motivated by claims of supremacy of the white race so not only was antifa not involved and he. Because chris wray was like any left-wingers he's like we don't do left wing right wing we. Yeah we talk. We talk about Groups and whether they were involved and there were no groups The a senator would normally associate with left-wing involvement in the attack on the capital there. But it it was all trump supporters and many of them. Individuals specifically are white supremacists now regarding the threat of domestic terrorism. Ray said we have significantly grown the number of investigations and arrests He also said the fbi director said that in september that number of the number of such cases was about a thousand by the end of two thousand twenty. They're about fourteen hundred such cases and after january six that ballooned again two four thousand two thousand and the problem of domestic terrorism. He said has been metastasized around the country for a long time. And it's not going away anytime soon whenever we've had the chance we've tried to emphasize that as a top concern. Ray also explained the fbi bulletin talking about the quote unquote intelligence failure. He said the fbi bulletin was not only email to law enforcement they were given additional verbal briefings and it was posted on the portal for all law enforcement to see that contradicted the pointing last week. That blamed the failure entirely on intelligence despite that he conceded that the fbi officials will review internal practices because what unfolded at. The capital was not an acceptable result. Now you can join under tours and me tomorrow on clean up. Clean up on forty five for an in depth discussion about the f. b. i. Response with andrew mccabe. He's going to be with us on the show tomorrow. So that's gonna be fantastic. Definitely join all right This next story. We've been following for awhile. A g This is what we've been covering with cuomo. The past week governor cuomo has been accused by two women of inappropriate sexual behavior. Third woman has come forward during a wedding. Cuomo win up to an rush. And she thanked him for his kind words about her friends but what happened next instantly. Unsettled her now. Mr cuomo putting his hands on her lower back. She said it was an interview on monday. Now when she removed his hand with her own she actually recall that. The governor remarked that she seemed aggressive and placed his hands on her cheeks. He asked if he could kiss her loudly. Enough for friends. Standing nearby here Miss rouge was a wilder d- and pulled away as the governor drew closer so this whole thing was very uncomfortable for her clearly witnesses. That could hear it. She said i was so confused and shocked and embarrassed. She as she was. Recollecting was collaborated by the friend. Contemporaneous text messages and photographs. There's literally a photograph of this happening from the event. She said i turn my head away. And i didn't have words in that moment now. Miss rush example is distinct from those of former aides. A former member of the obama administration and the twenty twenty biden campaign. Misuse had never been employed by the governor or the state but her experience reinforces the escalating concerns and accusations about mr cuomo personal conduct the pattern of words and actions that have at a minimum made three who women who are decades decades. His junior feel deeply uncomfortable in their collective telling so on monday. Cuomo misra komo's contrition as a rarity in this decade long tenure was rejected actually by some other new york democrats including the of new york. Who said that. The governor statement was not an apology. He went on to say he seemed to be saying. I was just kidding around. Mr de blasios continued. Sexual harassment isn't funny. It's serious in has to be taken seriously so on monday night representative kathleen rice. A former nassau county district attorney became the first democrat in new york congressional delegation. To call mr cuomo to resign so this will be really interesting how this plays out. Obviously a lot of the republicans are up in arms. And i just think it's very interesting. How all of a sudden they wanna believe women when women are accusing democrats. So listen i if cuomo is guilty of what he did he did say those things. He just didn't have the intent behind it but listen if he did sexually harass anyone. I would also call for his resignation. So yeah we'll continue to cover that and also Finally pentagon on monday announced a one hundred twenty five million dollar security assistance package for ukraine with another one hundred and fifty million contingent on kief making progress on reforms and anticorruption efforts. Interestingly enough the has been given without any conditions we just don't know tried to blackmail wait. Wait we go. There was no like you do us a favor though it was just hey Also as i said at the top of the show mary. Trump has some updates for us with regards to her lawsuit against trump. And we'll discuss the manhattan. Da ramping up their investigation into alan weisberg and his kids which is really interesting. So stick around for that. We'll be right back after these messages will be bad. Hey everybody it's ag for the daily beans. 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We're gonna talk about an update on her lawsuit and a couple of other things including alan weisselberg mary. Welcome how are you good. Great to be here. It's good to see you i. I've forgotten i'm not supposed to ask how are you. I do it ever built in. Because i care now. We all noticed a couple of days ago. There was a court filing your lawsuit and there's been some questions regarding sort of a statute of limitations. And i was hoping you could give us a brief update on where you're lawsuit is what it's about For those that don't know and what's going on with that statute of limitations thing started really briefly with describing what it is. My grandfather died in nineteen ninety nine. And when i got a copy of his will if that had been completely disinherited which means that it was as if my father had never existed. My father had died when i was a child. But typically the deceased child you know his or her inheritance is split between her among his children in. That wasn't the case we were completely cut out of the will With the exception of all of the grandchildren got a a in the in the context of the value of the estate. A small bequest. Which is why. I got the will and found out the way i did. I'd been disinherited. Yeah and we talked about earlier when we were going over your book. We talked about the you know. When a lot of people in the media were asking you why haven't you written the book sooner et cetera. And that was one of the main reasons you said. I didn't know. I felt like a lot of people would see me as a disgruntled Disinherited niece and and that's kind of where this all stems from. Yeah it does. Because i don't get that. Like i have no other nobody knew existed and i haven't been part of the family in two decades because basically when you're disinherited you stop going to holidays. Actually that was the best thing that came out of that. I have to. What do you mean you half to. Yeah so i tried for months. Honestly to negotiate with my uncle rob and basically it was just like. This isn't fair. I understand had every right to do it. But you guys are all the executors. You know you could do whatever you want. And he's just like no no you know if If you sue us. I'll bankrupt you. Because i did have a ten percent. Share in a company called midland associates. Which had didn't heard from dad which was separate from my grandfather's estate and that's important when it comes down to the settlement. So i see them disaster. I got completely screwed over and we decided to settle it because it was very expensive and it didn't look like we had any prospects so As a condition of settlement however. They insisted that they buy me out of my share of this partnership midland associates and a long story short. They you might. My lawyer allowed them to use their valuations of the properties under discussion and It wasn't it was approximately ten buildings in queens. Plus i owned a share in the ground leases beneath shore haven beach even which were these enormous developments in brooklyn that each had at least twenty twenty two twenty four buildings on them. So we're talking about acres and acres and acres of property in the middle of brooklyn. That i had a five percent sharon and in settlement documents. They said that the land was worth. My share of. That land was worth one hundred thousand dollars. Oh oh which again isn't nothing in terms of in terms of money but in the context of what we're talking about i had been told years earlier that those ground leases were priceless right. Yeah i remember that from your book so anyway I i was also told by my lawyer whom i paid handsomely that either way. My grandfather's entire state was only worth thirty million. So you know. I should just cut by losses so i did because i was paying a lot of money for that kind of advice and by the way the lawsuit has nothing to do with my partnership share. It had only to do with the state and the fact that we were arguing that my grandfather when he wrote his will in nineteen ninety had alzheimer's ready and it had been unduly influenced by his children. There was an earlier will but my lawyer made it clear to me that there was something wrong with that will also because otherwise if they thrown out the night in nineteen ninety four will would have taken its place and we would have us that so clearly. There was something wrong with puzzles. Anyway we settle eighteen years go by and the time to publish his that extraordinary piece of investigative journalism which was based in part on the forty thousand pages of documents. I had from that lawsuit was five years worth of tax documents. Might my grandfather's bank statements tax returns for every single property he owned et cetera et cetera. And it took them over a year and a half the put together all the pieces and it wasn't when i read that article in in total. I understood that. I've been kind of screwed over. Because as it turns out toothpicks grandfather's estate was worth about a billion dollars. Yep which is more than thirty million yes. Listeners will will recognize and i actually had been totally and legitimately disinherited because there was nothing wrong with the nineteen eighty-four will so i had no claims to my grandfather's state at all. The problem was that if my grandfather's estate was worth a billion dollars. Chances are that partnership that i resent sharon was worth more than what they were telling me. It was worth. It was worth tens of millions of dollars. so oops. yeah yeah now. Look what's going on with the statute of limitations because my understanding is is that it's not about necessarily when the crime occurred but when the injured party recognizes that they'd been injured right. Is that sort of what we're talking about here. And there was a recent court filing. Could you explain that a little bit. Sure it's a two two year statute of limitations. Now if i had known that they had departed me at the time. I would've had until two thousand and two to file. Of course i didn't know because they expended so much effort defrauding so it. I did it. I know no idea And also my lawyer didn't help by convincing me. That the problem was with my have been disinherited. Which i wasn't so what we're saying is that the clock started ticking on august. Sorry october second eighteen. Because that's when i learned of the fraud and i've filed a lawsuit about a month before the statute of limitations was up so of course they're seeking emotion to dismiss by saying that you know i blew it. I should have done this eighteen years ago. However they're also suggesting that any reasonable person could figured it out and so basically they're not saying we do. They're they're just saying that i missed the boat and you know i could have figured out the fraud if i tried hard enough. That's an incredible admission right there honestly Oh yeah we defrauded you but anybody could have figured that out. And i think it's important to note that the statute of limitations clock stops ticking when you file the lawsuit right because it's been over two years since october two thousand eighteen but the loss when the lawsuit is filed not when it's decided or So we got in right under the wire filed september twenty twenty. And so what. We're we're claiming is that it took three investigative reporters forensic accountants and trust in the state attorneys. You know at the new york times a year and a half seven days a week plus forty thousand documents that you at the time didn't even know you had access to that. Plus they had access to a lot of other things too. So it's it's not necessarily the case. That i would have been able to figure it out if i had given up everything else in done. This is a fulltime job for two years. We the only documents you know. They interviewed other people They had records etcetera so their claims are absurd on their face however he never know So basically where we are right now. Is they get once again. One more one more brief to file and then it goes. It's time for the judge to make the decision. So hopefully we'll know by april made the outside and the thing is that it could go one of two ways. The judge either says you did blow it. You should have done this. Eighteen years ago case closed in which case nothing else happens. Once again they get away with that would suck mostly determined to take over trump tower and turn it into a homeless and renamed for the judge. Can say yeah. The clock started in twenty eighteen. You got in under the wire and now we proceed to figure out if they did indeed commit fraud. So i don't know i'm not sanguine about it. I i think. I clearly have much better lawyers. Yeah And i think i have a very solid case about the statute of limitations. I don't know what i do. Know though is if i get over that hurdle they're screwed and that's exactly what this hurdle is. It's just a decision as to whether or not the lawsuit can go forward exactly be because they have already admitted basically implied that they have defrauded you and you should have been able to figure it. You should have sat down in you. Know crisscross applesauce on your floor with boxes and boxes of documents. And oh you should have gotten your degree in forensic accounting as well and you probably should've maybe gone to columbia school of journalism And then and then you. You know because you didn't do those things too. So i concur with that and i just you know. I think it's important to point out that all this decision coming here in the is about is whether or not you can proceed with a lawsuit to discovery etc and. I do think that if if it's allowed to go forward they are screwed like you said it's important also to understand that that We're not just talking about recouping. The money they stole from essentially. But i would also get interest over time. So we'd get twenty years worth of interest compounded annually over that period of time. My lawyers are suing for punitive damages. So i could actually see a scenario in which i get more for punitive damages because it was so egregious and cruel You know they were my fiduciaries. Because my dad was dead they're actually required to have your financial interest in mind and they're supposed to be stewards. That's our of of of you fiduciary. Control isn't just about running the numbers it's about ensuring that you are Equitably treated and fairly compensation. Yeah and look. Money is great but what i the way i look at. It is if i get compensated. Fairly based on their behavior I just think of what what can be done with that money. 'cause it in their hands. It's useless it only serves them it it it keeps them Powerful it allows them to continue climbing and stuff in accountability Take it out of their hands. And you know could actually do something with that money. And that's why it's so awesome that so many things are happening at the same time you know between me and aging carol in sivan's and letitia james georgia in a Yup more following them all. That's glad to have you here today. And yeah you're right. It's not about the money. The money's nice and it can it can be put to better use than it is right now But it's you know it's about justice and Hopefully we'll see that. I have a couple questions speaking of vance about What you know about allen weisselberg our old friend from back in the molar. She wrote days Will you stick around after. Take a quick break. Yeah absolutely thanks. Everybody will be right back. Hey everybody it's ag from the daily beans and the segment of the show is brought to you by giant. 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Now in this recent new york times reporting About people questioning witnesses about weisselberg has a as though he were a subject of this investigation which he was In the when this was in the southern district of new york. And we got the indictment of of michael cohen and unindicted co-conspirator individual one Who we know to be donald and back. Then weisselberg had a limited Immunity agreement a non prosecution agreement. Where if he agreed to testify he would not be prosecuted and so right now. What it looks like is is sivan's gearing up to push weisselberg to cooperate with his investigation as well. And i was wondering if you tell us a little bit about weisberg and if you think that we're gonna see the same sort of either non-prosecution or plea agreement cooperation deal in this particular investigation. Yeah it's it's good. To see that allen has resurfaced. Because i i found it really weird that he was named so early on and then nothing as far as we know anyway and then they shut that shutdown that investigation in fact a judge had to come and say hey you know. You all haven't done anything on this cone investigation shit or get off the pot and the department of justice decided to close it. That was under. Bill barr so weird Yeah so. I'm sure allen's thrilled to be back dealing with the new york. Ag i he started working for my grandfather in nineteen seventy one. So this is a man who knows pretty much everything and I think since my theory but it makes perfect sense. I think my grandfather had him go with donald to manhattan and the trump organization to keep an eye on donald because clearly weisselberg proved himself to be a good player In new had worked the numbers and at the same by the same token in the same time donald clearly proved himself to be really bad. Visit his Incompetent essentially and you know not necessarily want to walk the straight narrow so my grandfather needed somebody on the inside keeping an eye on this and then i think over time. allergist sorta became another one of donald's creatures So what we can learn from him is kind of mind boggling and the other thing. That's maybe it's not mind boggling but it does make me wonder about the human species. Here's another guy who clearly knows that he is involved in something at best illicit and at worst really illegal and he still thought it was a good idea to get his children involved. Yeah yeah that's that blows my mind too I know one of his sons works at one of donald's biggest lenders I can't remember what the other one does. But he he's involved in property management as well to get him involved is odd and wh. Here's here's my thoughts. And this is all just speculation at this point. But i firmly believe sivan's has had the tax returns for a long time. Now i think he was waiting for mazaar 's for another reason. If it were to only the tax returns he would have he would have dropped czars case not gone through up to the supreme court twice but i think weisberg has the same kind of information the information. I think that he's been waiting for is for people who advised donald against breaking the tax laws against undervaluing. His advised him against Taking the deduction for seven springs advised him against these things either in writing or verbally saying hey you know at maziarz for sure. Hey to limit our liability. We have to tell you. This isn't on the up and up and a would have had to have gone forward despite kind of advice and because this is a tax business and insurance fraud investigation and another looking at the hush money stuff too. But that's kind of what i think they're getting at. That's what i think sivan's is sort of trying to poke at is is is that trump knew that what he was filing was inappropriate and illegal. But did it anyway. Because without that knowledge donald can just say My lawyers handle that. I don't get into the details. And sort of push it off onto his accountants and his lawyers but if but if weisselberg or mazari's advised him against it then that goes to intent that he knew what he was doing was ill advised and or illegal. Yeah it's a great point and honestly it's the only reason My lawsuit matters at all Because you know what my my list it's gonna show he sa- fraud fu big deal however much more importantly the documents i have are twenty twenty five thirty thirty five years old. They establish behavior and if the same behavior could be shown to exist. In more recent dealings of donald's then guess what we have. We have a pattern and patterns. Also show intent. Yep totality of evidence. We did it. They did it. In the mueller investigation. And it'll be easier for you to prove to right because in a civil suit like yours. It's not reasonable doubt. It's preponderance right. But i think vance waited for that ms ours waited it out And is working Because he absolutely has to have that That's kind of smoking gun. Cya stuff you know what i mean. Yeah absolutely and i think Waiting serves another purpose. I'm not suggesting that this was his motivation. Because it's it's much more important just to have the evidence. But i think donald is so damaged at this point it increases the the possibility that people will say he knew we told him he didn't listen to us Because they can prove it with the documents and that's great but to have people. Actually i witness accounts can be more compelling for some people And it can also lead us to to other avenues of investigation Because everybody who works for donald or at least most people certainly everybody. Inner circle knows this about him. He knows the difference between right and wrong. He doesn't care he will take any advantage. It's the same thing with the election. He did everything to steal this election. Absolutely everything not only because he can't grapple with the idea of losing but because all that matters is the win doesn't matter how you do. It doesn't matter how you get their break. The law be immoral. Doesn't matter you just get that win. It's the same thing in business. You know So if he can. He also shares with my grandfather absolute loathing of paying taxes which considering the vast bulk of their wealth with a Made possible by federal grants pretty appalling but it money means worth in every sense of the term so donald will do anything and people around should know that and anybody who's been in business around him or with him for the last forty years knows that of course he did these things. Of course he devalued properties when it came time to pay taxes and he inflated their value when it came time to get loans or seldom because my grandfather's been doing the same bucket thing since the nineteen forties. Yeah and you. You laid out all really clearly In your book too much never enough. And and i honestly the you know after getting not sort of full picture and that toy that kind of total understanding it explains a lot of his behavior you know his. His past behavior explains his current behavior. Him hiding the fact that he got a vaccine because it would show weakness even if he could become a hero like you said by by getting other people and saving lives and get a vaccine to be a hero. You have to show weakness and he wouldn't be willing to do that to to downplay the severity of his cova. D- it sarah. I'm just so many so many things and then of course you know his behavior since the election and and up until all in through cpac has I mean all completely make sense when you break it down into those simple terms. And and so i am looking forward to see how This judge decides your lawsuit along with all the others including aegina carol and You know we'll keep covering what's going on with weisselberg and vance and the trump organization juniors and a lot of hot water They haven't really mentioned eric. But i'm assuming he is as well although he could probably benefit from the too dumb to crime rule It seems to happen in criminal cases. Which is what got donald junior off the hook for that trump tower meeting that talks about white forgotten privilege. Might god what you we right. There are so many things going on again. My mind is the least of it. It really is. I mean. i'm really hoping that it's accessible. Because anything that wounds him and helps to. Md his bank account is a good thing for all of us but You know the wants to watch for sure. Eugene whatever's going on with the new york ag end a da In the role of the children is something also to keep an eye on on because weisselberg is made himself more vulnerable in whether kids had anything directly to do with donald's business or not they benefit from it. You know they. They used a they got gifts. You know they got a free ride a lot of times and that makes them vulnerable because you know when you accept something from somebody without giving anything back. Somebody like donald. There's always an expectation. The difference between allen weisselberg. Donald though is that i well i mean. I don't know for sure. But i'd like to think that why wouldn't serve his kids under the bus. No and i think you know again. I'm not a hundred percent sure. it's all speculation. But i think that the investigators will use his kids to get him to roll and use kim to roll on on donald. Eric ivanka with her. Eight hundred thousand dollar payments for her consulting while working at trump. Yeah totally totally legal and totally. Well i appreciate your time. Come back and let us know how it goes. And i'm hoping for an indictment or some indictments soon in the manhattan. Da case because that like you said is going to really help boost your case as well just shows a pattern of defrauding people so anyway. I appreciate your time. Mary trump. Thanks so much for joining us anytime. thanks did you. Everybody stick around. We'll be right back with the good news. Hey everybody it's g in this. Portion of daily beans is brought to you by nebi to me. The best way to get my day started is with really good shower. Hot steam going. It gets me in gear. And i best ideas while i'm in the shower. It's my thinking time. I'm excited to tell you about nubia. 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Lately with misheard lyrics and the guests the mixed breed i guess the mutt. And it's absolutely. I don't know i'm i'm absolutely loving it. If you have anything to submit a confession of correction you needed dispute settled in. Amy's court on friday or you. Have you want us to guess what breed your breeds. Your dog is your rescue dog. That's mixed breed. Anything you want misheard song lyrics. You can send them to us by going to daily pod dot com and clicking on contact. That is the best way to send them in the way that we It's where we get them because if they're sent to email addresses or whatever they might slip through the cracks so definitely do that from the the website by clicking on contact And also good news pictures. Go into the show notes for patrons and super cast subscribers. So you'll be able to see the pictures that we see as you listen to the good news. It's it's it's quite fun. Yes and you can try and get the breed to a kind of suck at it but we're trying. Everything is a staffordshire terrier from now on everything. Everything is centered terrier. Yep yep all right. Let's kick this off with olivia pronouns. She and her couple of bits of my parents finally convinced my eighty seven year old grandfather to move from maine to north carolina. So they could take care of him his not happy about it but at this point at least he's here number two. I got my first dose today. We attach as my pod tax. We don't have any pets here. But it's a shot of my twin seven year olds and me chilling in the hammock. Enjoying one of the few non rainy days. We've had in a while. Oh my goodness olivia. You're so cute and your kids went an adorable big shirk. Its just joy. Oh they're so cute. Those are identical twins. kind is i love it. What a beautiful family. Thank you for sharing that with us for first shots. Oh i've already seen. I've already seen the next photo. Oh darn you. All right just want. One came from james pronouncing him. I have a confession for you. Many years ago when playing with designing science fiction spaceships when playing with designing yeah scientists spaceships as you do i inadvertently designed one with the shape of the odal rune started with the diamond shape then added a couple of extensions to make it more interesting but i scrapped it when i realized that look like a swastika with the arms twisted around i hadn't realized the shape had its own identity beyond being twisted up swats too but even that was enough to make the abandon the design. Thank you very much james for that. For pod pet tax here some photos of our mini australian shepherds co button denham. Great names for dogs. no i with one year old. Cobalt meeting puppy denham. Then the two of them playing frisbee at five and four years old and lastly them swimming off the spanish banks in vancouver british columbia with the north shore. Mountains in the background at age. Fourteen and thirteen. That you've documented their life together. Cobalt cobalt is going in for cancer surgery. Monday wishes luck. I definitely will. Oh ma guy. No i know i know this is what this is why i was like. Oh i've seen the picture already and it's this baby tiny puppy aminiasi puppy. Oh wow oh the last photo james. Thank you for sharing these. These pictures durable that damn public. My goodness i know. Oh yes and we'll keep you in our thoughts when you go in for surgery indeed They're so cute. I love the swimming picture. Know all next up from anonymous pronouns. She and her life confession. Nine in nine hundred seventy two. During the end of the watergate scandal. I lived in youngstown. Ohio Growing up in the seventies in youngstown there was quite a lot of media coverage on watergate and the leaking damn issue on lake milton west of the city. Let's remember that childhood and teenagers blow by you in a fog. And i go off to college of course. Political science is a requirement. And wow you should have seen a professors face. And fellow students astonishment when i was asked to give a brief overview of my thoughts on watergate i still bush today when i think about it. The professor was kindness politely. How i came to think watergate was about a damn issue in northeastern ohio. Oh my god. that's funny watergate. Get it oh my god. That's fantastic blue bonnet plague. Yeah oh that's wonderful. My pet tax are photos of mckinley ian harrison. There's no doubt of their breed The lassie dogs. Florida collies no Just collie collies isn't lassie. Just call a colleague. Yeah all right. Well maybe they live on the border of their. You don't know maybe they'll have on the border of the county. The border collies are those black and white like the dog from down and out in beverly hills. Yeah yeah all right okay. This next one is from eric. No pronounce given hello beans. Queens air from dc here to share my good news. Yesterday i received. I visor pfizer dose and scheduled my second one in three weeks. Nice to me finishing this in the spring of a new and already much better year. I have no pod pets for attacks. But i'll share pictures of my tattoos one on arms a wreath of olives and rosemary on the other is lemons basil and garlic the most delicious tattoos. I've ever heard an over my shoulder raspberries. They bring me joy every morning when i see them in the mirror and although large they cannot be seen when i'm dressed for work shut up to the dc tattoo artist who took my decent. Made them real safe out there. Wow these are incredible. They are incredible beautiful. That's all line works. those are being tattoo. Yes the hurricanes. Those hurt those dark lines. Yeah great eric. Thank you eric. I love these. I'm glad they make you happy. Yeah i've got a whole crapload of them. To and can't see them when i'm when i'm dressed up for work although my work now is just yoga pants and tank tops in my studio at home. It's just podcast work. No more government blazers for me. Who all right next up from philip pronunciation him. Awesome beans hosts. I have a good news in sort of misheard lyrics. My parents just got their second dose of the moderna vaccine and the relief i feel is so palpable. I thought i had been relieved of their first shot. But this just truly made me feel like a weight was lifted off my shoulders. Apparently they felt the same way when i told them that. I'm finally scheduled to get my first shot of pfizer's vaccine in two weeks. So great. I under i totally get you. Don't get the second shot yet because my parents still have another week to go for their second shot but when they got their first shot i will i cried. I was like so relieved Just had all these visions in my head and my mom getting sick. You know she's got a lot of co morbidity season or a lot of pre existing conditions and she's seventy four and so i was just constantly constantly worried about her and then even that i shot made a big difference in all all report-back how the second one makes me feel. But i'm assuming it'll be you know. Pretty pretty palpable. Like you said. Philip now on the misheard lyrics sort of philip as i grew up in a very baptist home. We listen to christian radio stations in the car. Instead of secular music and i went to a christian camp during the summer. This meant that sometimes. The songs from the stations and from camp were rifts. On popular songs and i had no clue. I'd never heard the other version. I didn't know story of a girl was a song because i always heard story of a squirrel. It started with. This is a story of a squirrel whom god preserved when he drowned the whole world and while things look so dark and noah's ark was absolutely flooded she's fine. Oh wow holy story of a girl tran the home. wow okay. that's that's not misheard misappropriated. You whole fang. Thank you all so much for the news and the laughter. The good news segment often highlight of each day. As we enter this anniversary of a year of declared pandemic. Thank you again for all you do. Fill up if you have any more of these christian parodies hear them. It's like reverse weird al yankovic ag. When i was. I grew up in albuquerque new mexico. We had christian station in. Anyone who's from albuquerque will know this. I don't know if it's still around. But it was called k light but it was spelled k. l. y. t. which is also click one zero five which i thought was best name ever for christians clinto five. Everyone's it's k- light. I'm like okay sure it's k. Like another candidate for my my website called. Run it by me. I dot com. Exactly now don't use that one all right this next one is from holly pronouns. She and her head low newest listener and fellow. Gen xer here from quincy massachusetts. I felt compelled to write in this week for the things. I got wrong segment before. The trump worship began. I only loosely followed politics. The like the nightly news never watched cable news. You're listening to political podcasts. Could probably named a few key figures in congress and i was aware of the general political issues of the day but my knowledge knowledge and interest interest. Stop there in fact. And here's a confession. I was so uninterested in politics that i thought antonin scalia. We're actually two different people. That's funny like antonin anton in scalia. Anton anton yeah scalia. Anytime they were mentioned in the news. I would think boy those who those two are thick. Oh my god. This is fantastic. Always willing the same way. They must be super besties. Imagine my surprise. The time of his death when i finally saw his name and picture on the tv screen. I mean whose name antony it was definitely a face palm moment and i was so very grateful that he never came up and social conversations in my pre political life secret. I've kept until now in this. Podcast seems like the perfect place to spill my beans. You're damn right it is obviously. That's all changed in the last four years and i could probably name player in washington just by the sound of their voice by now for better for worse the four year. Trumpster fire certainly made me more informed citizen Ask for puppet tax quick story mr to female bengal kittens. Ooh right around. Thanksgiving san sadly one of the kittens was a runt of the litter and despite medical intervention she failed to thrive and had to be euthanized. The breeder was beside himself over the death and offered to replace her with a male kitten that he had available so she brought home the meal kit and right around christmas within a week of having unfixed male and female together the female prematurely went into heat. They were trying their best to keep them apart. But it was miserable experience for the entire household even in separate rooms. The cats were yelling for each other constantly. My sister asked if we could take the male cat home until the female cat came out of heat and was able to be spayed so on january. First we we brought the male home and instantly fell in love. We had him until february. Eighteenth i never really a fan of getting a purebred animal knowing how many shelter animals need homes but we absolutely fell in love with this breed and now have a deposit on to bengal kittens. Who will be ready to come home at the end of may some climbing a couple of photos. I'm including a couple of photos of my nephew cat. Until i have my own share. Thanks for all you do to keep us informed in laughing. Oh my god holly thank you for keeping us laughing during that samanta and school. Anton anton and scalia reminds me of i. Always thought. astigmatism was stigmatism. So i would be like. I have stigmatisms My goodness because i thought the Was a an article right. Like a definite article like do you. Have you have astigmatism. My my middle school teacher used to say jesus. Mary joseph and i raised my hands and i said who is marianne. Because i did not. I thought three people. Jesus marianne joseph the not jesus mary and joseph. I'm like who's marianne. He was on gilligan's island. Yeah okay jesus. Mary and joseph got it. And i thought for the longest time that euthanasia had something to do with kids in asia asia. There you go Next up from an pronouns she and her physical by lyndon john has a lyric. That may talk about it too. I heard it as let me hear you fight the hulk all right then. Don't you wouldn't like him when he's angry confusing to say the least. Why do you want me to fight the hulk still here my version. If it comes on the radio here picks my dog ernie and the kitties and sunday the kiddies sunny and stormy look at ernie ernie with his ballerina feet. He's still very proper and the kids are like get away from our box. This is our box on. My god seriously untouchable sabotage so cute. These were fantastic. Submissions today when the bengals are beautiful to the bengal kitties poly antonin scalia. I wanted to sit com. Now you know duo ever. I just wanna do. Yeah like a weird cop show were. I don't know maybe maybe maybe they are a couple that have they fall on hard times like they got in a fi ikea. We're gonna talk about anson school on my god. I don't know that's hilar- well done. That was very good. I think you brains always turning. Wheels always going antonin scalia. That's brilliant all right if you have any of those Moments are moments. Please send them to us because the misheard song lyrics everything i just love it all. We didn't get any mix. Dog breed guesses today. But i'm sure that people are formulating them. Now people felt bad for us. they're like oh god tortured. Please stop summating these. Can you hear their pain. We like to hear them succeed and yet they fail and fail. You can do that. You can just head to daily beans dot com and click on contact and send those in so All right we were getting through the week. We're getting there. The first week of march is is going to be in the can can and this march is going to go by fast i. I'm willing it to go by fast. In i'm willing some indictments to come out from the manhattan district attorney to mary as mary said if trump can get indicted for that kind of fraud that bolsters her case You know to show that he's a fraudster. He's got a history of it indeed so we'll be keeping an eye on that for you but Anything else you. Wanna talk about. Dana nathan coming up. 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Hey everybody do not miss our daily beans after party on the stereo up. We'll be going live every thursday at five. Pm pacific eight pm eastern dana. And i want to hear from you. Our last stereo show when a little bit like this. I saw a billboard. We were driving back from vegas and saw billboard that said lee for apartments release and they're like leasing information call this number and i was like leasing information. How do you lease information. Had you can't give it back once you know something. Don't you just know it like you would like. Oh wait yep just have the moments. I had mine on the show the other day. If you're listening to the episode on thursday actually you tune into this They were talking about that. Didn't have any ouseley. Were getting lost in different places and missy and so the story was basically like the cat disappeared into how many meow and they're like. Oh my god we need to find it. We're gonna look for the cat. We put out food. We put up signs in my head. 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Peking To Paris Challenge, NFL Magician Jon Dorenbos, WADA Bans Russia

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To See who can raise the most money and if we win we get a trophy and you know how much we love trophies. So we're asking thing right now as long as you're not driving and if you're driving you should totally wait until later for you to pause this podcast and go to donate dot. NPR ARE DOT org slash game to make a donation to your local station. And thanks. This is only a game. I'm Karen given the idea came to him in the winter of two thousand Seventeen Anton. Anton gunnison was rereading a book. He'd read twice before the book follows four teams in one thousand nine hundred seven as they raised. Nearly ten thousand miles outs from Peking to Paris but five teams had actually started that events. There wasn't much written about the fifth competitor which it was August punts. They sort of left him out in this story and I I did August pumps and didn't get his plays in history. Well it's great because he it didn't make it and so as Anton was reading this book for the third time he had an idea. We finished this guy started in a sense. Anton knew what he was getting himself into the baking to Paris was brought back in nineteen ninety seven as an endurance rally for her classic and vintage cars. It's a point to point over thirty six days. All the competitors stop at the same hotel or campsite every night Anton Canton and his wife completed the rally six years ago in the relative comfort of their nineteen fifty Bentley but to finish what August ponds had started. Anton would need to complete the journey in nineteen zero. Six Khan told Moto try. It's basically a motorcycle on three wheels. Two in the front one in the back the CO driver or navigator sits between the front wheels in his seat so dangerous. The content factory gave it a special name. Lubomirski which means the Khalil mother-in-law seat the taking to Paris is held every three years and by the time Anton got up the courage the email the race director to ask for an entry. The rally was already full but since I have proposal that had never been done before. I was hoping that he would say yes. The race director got back to Anton a few days later and he said you'll med but he accepted Anton entry the anyway toys. There was no way back from the moment. I think the automobile was just over two decades old. When the first taking to Paris race was announced? Those newspaper called `La Matta in France named January nine hundred ninety seven. That's Tony Gerardine. He's the communications nations director with Hero. Era that company that puts on the modern Peiqing Paris rally. I'm essentially doing was challenging the auto makers of the time to show the modern cars were more than just a novelty for the rich really forty teams entered but only five actually made it to the starting line in China. No roads. No maps uncharted territory. The route followed Telegraph Poles all the way from China Mongolia and Russia so what they decided sided do was dispatch mules and camels with fuel into strategic spots where they could pick up their gas along the route without any real roads to rely on ponds hoped. He and his co-driver Oscar Fuko could just pick up their tiny trike and carry it over obstacles still with with just nine horsepower. The content was very slow. He was the slowest one But at the same time I think he was the bravest one and certainly Aska got his co-driver was very very brave. Indeed because you know if you hit any bump to an over you and just get injected straight off the front of it. But I don't think they got that far to find window if Anton gunnison was to have any chance of finishing. What pond started Anton? I needed to to get his hands on a nineteen. o Six Console Moto try. I thought in the beginning today would find one but the bid to be extremely many difficult and now I know the most about four five or six left in the world where they are is anyone's guess. Private collectors tend not to advertise vehicles. They they have no intention of ever selling which sent Anton Onto Plan B.. I got a tip and they said they have one in the storage of the LME twenty four hours museum. I made an appointment I I spoke to other people and then our golden and this was actually quite an important moment because we were allowed allowed to take all the dimensions we could measure it up. We we took a million pictures and did seeing it. Make you have any second thoughts because I think if I were standing in front of something like that and saw how small and not comfortable it was I would start thinking. Maybe I shouldn't do this. Funny you us. Everybody has poke about this project. Told me to to stop it not to do it. It was impossible. I would hood myself. It couldn't be done and there was a reason pumps that make it And actually they were all right. And as the project evolved. I understood more and more what they had to do to get it done. Since Anton talk couldn't find an original nineteen o six console moto try. He built one using the specifications he had gathered and like ponds had add one hundred twelve years earlier. Anton made some improvements. He strengthened the chassis. He put on Sturdier wheels. It also had engine engine forty five horsepower. Instead of the nine horsepower that bombs had but then again I needed does horse powers to make it from beacon to Paris the time that the rally gave me while the nineteen o seven competitors could take as long as they needed to get to the next refueling station. Anton would need to make it to the rally stop every night but manufacturing a vehicle from scratch took a lot longer than Anton had planned for and he received his finished in one thousand nine hundred six model. KONTA Moto try with time to do just one hundred fifty kilometers roughly ninety miles of road testing. I thought that was as a mistake. It's still as I always say. Half the rally is getting to start and so on June second in two thousand Nineteen Anton gunnison. And his co-driver Herman Galore lined up at the Great Wall of China near Beijing. It was raining a the little bit like this drizzle to mid does make you happy pin drizzles burn. The flag come goes down. You Start People. Clap you here into the photographers clinically away. The Mas of people goes open like the Red Sea. You drive through it and one minute later you totally allowed. There's nobody cheering anymore. There's silence the the engine and you know you're going to be there for thirty six days with a lot of trouble so it feels amazingly alone when it actually happens when you drive away but when August pawns drove away from the start in nineteen no seven. He felt anything but alone. We left beginning on June ten with a heart full of hope. That's an actor. Reading from an account of the race written by August ponds in August nineteen seven older drivers at African ship that one might have started since he knew you that they would probably be last. This is Tony Giardina again and yet and yet in the month that they all spent together in hotel. Peaking Making Hewlett preparations they all got on extremely well and they all made these these thousand these promises together. Each would help the other out but just a week into the race. It all started to go wrong. It was the eighteenth of June that began what they can call without exaggeration. My ordeal poems had got lost. Cost from the from the Telegraph Poles and wave at off over to the left because the track was quite good over on that side. I continue without worry thinking to find the telegraph bowls a little further after an hour. No more tax on the phone and we had not encountered any path. I was getting very worried because the gas I I had did not allow me to make an exotic then. He was very lucky to come across new some Mongolian riders. They'd seen for the vehicles so they pointed at short cut for him to get across this Grassy Section at no ten twelve kilometers and he managed to catch up with the other four vehicles before he finally got lost again. The situation became agonizing wanting to preserve the patrol that remains to me decided to stop next to camp of Chinese. Who gave us what what by this time? They're already very thirsty very hungry. The Chinese whatever was terrible it was mud but with what delight with Hankins they felt sure that the others after this time a day and a half or so would be looking for so they took turns sleeping. And I'll look out the next morning ponds and Fukuoka's scanned the horizon looking for other drivers. Nothing nothing the hair drove on for a few kilometers before their fuel tank ran dry and they were forced to continue on foot to the next stop. Then the marched for something like like six kilometers believing it was just over the horizon. It wasn't in a real state. They decide to go back to the motorcycle. Stunned by the Sun. Stupefied by Fatty. Tormented by Thurston anger we arrive at seven o'clock in the evening at the cycle without eating without thinking and we fall asleep type with hope again by the hope that we can more and more on the morning of the twentieth. Nothing still nothing. August ponds race would end at that spot in Mongolia. One hundred and twelve years later Anton gunnison hadn't even made it out of China when his trouble trouble began. After the I looked at the console. Anisette something strange with those front wheels but anyway we'll see tomorrow the next day. When Anton in in Herman stopped for fuel they noticed the front wheels which were supposed to be straight cameras in by ten degrees? The axle had bent almost goes to the point of failure. I showed it to guy into petrol station and he pointed out to a village that was tricky to food. Uh and I understood that he said ask they. Anton found the welder and pointing again at his crooked front wheels asked him to insert a metal pipe inside the axle to straighten it and make it stronger the actual when away with a guy on the small motorcycle Thorpe two hours later it came back it was all straight again problem. Solve problems solved. But you still had a lot of worries in your brain a lot of visualizations of what could go wrong if this broke again right something went wrong in my head so I started to imagine that this actual was going to break y y hours on the the highway following a truck truck behind me. I mean I have a very imaginative mind. And and then I saw Herman projected out of the seat on the tarmac and Highveld. Jesus Christ this guy's going to die so I became a lot more cautious. Perhaps too cautious. Did you tell Herman that you were having these thoughts. What's the wouldn't have been smart? I think so Anton kept his worries to himself as he and Herman climbed aboard the content for day three the day they would pass that spot in the desert where ponds ran out of fuel. That was an important day. The third day everybody started complementing us. And yes you well done and you further than palms at least you have this. But I wasn't satisfied with that. resells didn't come there to get a bit further on to get the Perez of course by the third day of his ordeal August ponds had lost all hope of continuing on to Paris part of the race but he still had to find find a way out of the Gobi desert ponds believe the other drivers must have turned around to rescue them by now but with no signs of help on its way he. The and Fukuoka sat out again on foot so then Lee a hitter in exclusion of joy. What is it for me? Look over there visit did you pursue the stints and it was Mongolian tribesmen and there was saved yet again. The tribesmen brought oxen to pull the Moto. Try to the safety of their camp. But Pons couldn't let go of the fact that it was locals and not his fellow drivers who had saved him. I think the thing can you. You read one the reports higher. Hi Rabbani said you know that my house meaning his whole family house put so much into this and all this is destroyed by the like of Komo chip or companions of the road. He tried all the options to try and get to try out of them. He had to leave all spare parts he had to leave if the trike ponds and Fuko eventually made it back home riding with a caravan of camels part of the way when ponds account was printed in a French magazine Kazini two months later in late August nineteen o seven Prince shipowning Borges. Easy had already arrived in Paris three weeks ahead of the second place ice finisher nobody ever went back for August ponds and Oscar Phooko but it is all video all the story which year for those who finished the race. He's and I. I've already been forgotten on day. Three of the two thousand nineteen rally. Anton gunnison had made it further within ponds ever had but he was still in Mongolia and he had yet to face his biggest challenge. Let's skip ahead today. Seven Avin what happened with your Axel. Then you drove into the campsite and I saw people looking at my wheels. Anton already knew something was going on with his wheels. He'd been staring at them all day but just as he and Herman pulled into the campsite. The axle broke completely the only thing holding the trike together was the pipe that had been inserted into the axle on day. Two again for the second time I was short nearly sure the rally was finished in so I was a bit Was a bit heartbroken. Full ten minutes and the repair took four or five hours but eventually among Golian welder was able to use a rusted piece of scrap metal to a fortify the axle. At that moment I sort of realized the probably we were going to make it. I don't want to say that the rest of the journey was easy. In fact it was miserable by the end Anton. Gunnison could no longer field two fingers on each hand. They had gone numb from the vibrations. Coming coming up the handlebars but he and Herman Pass through Mongolia. Then Russia Kazakhstan Finland Estonia Latvia Poland and into Germany Germany ones in Germany. You know you're there. Actually you know you then nothing is GonNa go wrong there and even if it does you can fix it so take me to the ended ended the rally. How did it feel to actually legitimately finish this thing that ponds at started? That's a good question it didn't i. Didn't felt felt anything. So when I arrived in Paris I thought that the world would be too small and that explosions would happen in my head than that. I would dance on this amazing beautiful square. I didn't I was just extremely happy that it stopped that it took that it was dumb. It only came to me a week or so after slowly in bits at some pieces I really think it sounds silly but ninety seven five teams set that out to do something incredible. Four of them arrive one get stuck in the Gobi desert goes back home. Nobody talks about him anymore. It gets forgotten finish. I pick it up one hundred and twelve years later. I think that the gold medal is his or at least his and mine. So we'll do go back to Paris. An put the metal on his grave making a happy ending. you're listening to only again from NPR. When it's too cold to go out or to ICI to make it out of the driveway where do you go to find? Just the right movie. Just the right book just the right show to binge pop culture happy hour from. NPR can help you keep warm and keep up at the the same time. Join US twice a week on pop culture happy hour I'm Karen Given and it's time for three stories. You should know on Wednesday night. Kawhi Leonard returned to Toronto for the first time since he led the Raptors to an NBA championship. And that's where we'll start this week. I'm joined by Mike. PESCA the host of the daily slate. podcast the gist and by the athletics. Michael Lee Welcome back to both of you. Thanks for having me great to be here. Michael you're up. NBA Unions are often pre ugly. We've seen it in this last decade. Lebron GO BACK TO CLEVELAND. The first time and get booed incessantly incessantly. We've seen Kevin Durant go back to Oklahoma City and get caught a cupcake in the snake and everything else that His Mother didn't name him but when Kawhi Violin it returned to Toronto. We got the opposite spectrum. We got a chance for a community a city country to show their love and respect for or a player who gave their franchise credibility invalidation by winning a championship. It was the greatest one and done story in. NBA History a player player. Who was traded to a place that he didn't surly WanNa go but made the best of it and it turned out to be of gratifying? Steamy affair co I return learned. They chanted his name. Mvp they had a great tribute video. And I just kind of want to get your thoughts on. If winning does cure any type of ill it will be a situation. Maybe being Canadian cures a lot of ill I mean there was a conference. Canadians are nice. They won their championship campionships. Everyone pretty much realized that the Kawhi tenure was a rental. And you know what a great five star review on Airbnb for that and then you the other factor that the raptors post-coup why people were slotting them in is a non playoff team. They're doing great. They've had players who are role players like Vanfleet and Pasco CEAC. I'm I'm really flourish. So all the factors that could have gone wrong have gone very well for the city to properly show why the love and for that love to register on his face as a totally blank expression. I I don't know if you guys saw this. But there were these competing and billboards which I really love so new balance and quite put up a huge thank you. Toronto in Toronto has like sort of a mini version of Times Square. I didn't know that apparently need to go to Toronto. And I've never been and the raptors return the favor with billboards at Scotiabank Arena and B. M. O.. Field Clippers coach Doc rivers rivers. said the whole thing was super classy and Michael. I want to compare that the reception. Paul George Dot on Monday two years after he left Indiana. Ed this is his third time back in town. There were boos there were chance I can't say on the radio and I know it's not just that everybody's nicer up in Canada. It does so what's going on in Indiana will. I do want to offer one correction. They are nice and candidate. But that nice of you as Vince Carter would but he added endure the ten years after he demanded trait of Toronto. He'll let you know that they were not very friendly with him. And they didn't forgive him until he was no longer a threat to the success of their a franchise and they started winning again. But as Paul George He soda understands that this is what he's going to deal with when he goes there and actually had a chance to speak to him about about the reception that Kawhi Guide and reception that he got and I said so. I guess the championship is the difference in e said not exactly because Leonard it does go back to San Antonio and he does not get the same love that he gets in Toronto even though he was the final. Vp with the Spurs in two thousand. Fourteen and Paul. George basically said that when things don't go the way they want them to fans look at us as the bad guys and you know unusual when you have a break up that it is a positive break-up but but I think what happened with Kawhi twos at it was such a short you know it's almost like this summer fling that you have when you're young and that's what happened with and and the raptors. It was that fun summer experience that you could just always hold onto okay so on Monday. The World Anti Doping Agency banned Russia from all major sports events for the next four years. We all remember back to last winter's Olympics Russian athletes who could prove they were clean were allowed to compete but not under their team name or flag and they didn't hear their national anthem when they won that Dan stemmed from the state sponsored cover up of doping at the two thousand fourteen Sochi gains so the Russian Olympic team was reinstated last year but as a condition of that. Reinstatement statement they were required to provide water with a full copy of the data from their lab instead they allegedly planted fake evidence and deleted files and that brings us to this latest four year ban. And this thing has gone all crazy. Political as is the way in two thousand nineteen a narrative is emerging in in Russia. That suggests that this ban is part of the West trying to hold Russia back and normally I would be all Yada Yada Yada same old same all about this. But Russian boxers have apparently voted unanimously to reject the idea of competing as neutral athletes again. They're planning to boycott they say hey. We didn't cheat. We run a clean sport. Why should we be punished? And I don't know maybe they have a point. Mike what do you think well the Russian Federation Federation has been having systemic doping program for years now and as much as you don't want a federation into doped and these athletes to have cheated but if it has happened I do want a full and real ban on these athletes and yeah even some quote unquote innocent athletes especially because they are given an out of participating under the Olympic flag. If they say no we choose to stand by the flag of Russia. Well then you can't compete and that I think is a fair thing. He agree wholeheartedly. Would you said I mean. There's GonNa be casualties of this. If you have a government you know that is you know promoting cheating in encouraging and I just feel like if that's what they want to you know say we won't compete if we can ribs and our flag then I say sorry because does your flag represents dumping the Olympics is not four which is doping and cheating. Yeah yeah it almost seems like they think. Oh if we say we're not going to compete heat than water is going to back down and we're GONNA be allowed to compete under our flag. But I really think that history is not on their side on that one young coaches. I have one more this actually. This ban is not just for the benefit of the other clean athletes. Russian athletes are pressured more than pressured compelled to dope and so if there were a robust punishment regimen in place than perhaps these very athletes at least future generations of Russian. Athletes Won't feel pressured or made to do this to their bodies really well said all right. Mike what do you have. Well we have spy to or maybe two point something the details this this time around or that a crew from the New England patriots showed up. They were credentialed at a browns bengals game. Why because the crew was doing a series series? They say for the Patriots website. This week's Vignette was to be the advanced scouts. But during the entire second quarter of Patriots videographer refer was just just had his camera trained on the opposite sidelines. The cameraman identified himself as a Robert Kraft employees and asked if he could just delete the footage outage. And we'll all be forgotten. I'm surprised he didn't like a lot of hundred. Said Benjamin Franklin can make this all go away and if you remember back to the original spy gate where from two thousand thousand to two thousand seven. They were demonstrated to have been taping opponent. Sidelines here is what Matt Walsh. A former Patriots videography told the NFL as reported by ESPN during games the Patriots videography were told to look like media members to tape over their team. Logo turn their sweat shirts inside out to wear credentials. That's a patriot. TV or craft productions so the whole identifying yourself that raises another red flag as does the fact that these are New England patriots employees videotaping the other team. All right Michael. I know you have no love for the Patriots. BRING IT ON I. You probably won't find a bigger patriots hater than this Mary here in I love whenever they get caught cheating. Because that's what they do cheater cheat and the kids stop cheating. But I'm I'm kinda willing to give him a pass on this one because I think this is actually some bumbling videographer who maybe overstepped his bounds. I mean I mean the fact that he was I think he was reportedly in Boston. Bruins hockey gear already made the first mistake there and also we're talking about the bengals. I mean I know that you know Tom. Brady's had a rough couple of weeks. And he you know he's lost their back to back games or whatever but if they gotta do this with the Bengals and something's something's really wrong over embellish land so I'm giving him a pass on this one while I did not expect you to give the Patriots pass ever. I know that's not something I do because I usually like to. Just jump on them especially when they get caught doing some very ravens or somebody like Oh they definitely did it. They don't even need to scout the bengals they can just show up. Unlike you Michael I am Patriots Fan known I enjoy going to games. I think Brady is the goat. I Miss Brock. I believe in my heart of hearts that those those footballs were not deflated. It was just really cold outside that night. That said guys do better like use it being caught it legally filming before you need to know that when you get caught filming again and you say I was filming a documentary. It's totally totally totally Only going to sound like a lie and then the fact that the documentary is called. Do Your job just kills me. Because everyone was doing their job they would have gotten the proper approval to film for the documentary and they wouldn't have filmed anything they shouldn't have off Mike. What's a pats fan to do with all of this? Well I guess you could still compete under the Russian flag. It's just. It's a very new England Boston scandal because I love the ideas. Michael points at the guy shows up in a bruin shirt like just wearing like almost the Dunkin donuts hat saying recommend to the bubbler and the Mass Pike. No Ma how much more Boston Eh. My guess for this week's addition of three stories. You should not have been Mike PESCA. The host of the daily slate podcast the gist and and the athletics Michael Lee. Thanks about the view. You're welcome. Thank you appreciate okay. I promised to keep this quick. But this is the part of the show where I remind you that you can get only a game via podcast lease subscribe and please leave us a review. It helps other listeners. Find the show. We'll be right back with Charlie appears and don't forget to follow us on facebook and twitter at only a game and he ought you only a game produced in Boston with help from listeners. Like you why not make a donation today just go to donate dot. NPR DOT ORG slash game to donate to your local station. And thanks. I'm Karen Given next week on only game. George Archer the championship Golfer offer. Who couldn't read? But now Charlie Pierce is here with the week's news. Hi Charlie Baker and the Yankees spent eleven years trying to woo pitcher Garrett Cole to New York ORC. They finally got him with a nine year. Three hundred twenty four million dollar contract making Cole. The highest paid pitcher in major league history. What do you make of that price tag ugh well? The first thing I know is the first time he has a bad game. He's GonNa love the back pages. The New York tabloids second link. There's no way they're going to pay him the last two or three years of that contract. Yeah Garrett Cole is not a young man if they can get out of him what they've gotta say. CC So the very very lucky third baseman Anthony Ren don is headed to the angels angels for seven years. Two hundred and forty. Five million and Stephen Strasburg is staying with the nationals. Also for seven years two hundred forty five million Scott. Boris is the agent for Coal Rendong and Strasbourg. The combined value of those contracts is eight hundred fourteen million dollars not a bad week for Boris whereas say it's the most wonderful time of the year. What can I tell you? He's good at his job. He knows that about Scott. Boris the national things interesting because while Strasbourg is probably their signature player. He was the first real star. They drafted and he's now played all the way through their world championship. Ren Don't of course got a great late season and postseason Oh season as did all the nationals. And now he's getting paid so good for him. Remember last year when there were no signings of note during the winter meetings in this whole thing dragged on and on and on on and people were using words like collusion what happens. I think they decided not to collude. There's no question in my mind that there was collusion going on last year. But I think we so blatantly obvious that they decided to play it fairly straight this time around under a new agreement with the Union. MLB will begin testing for opiates and cocaine McCain but only players who don't comply with treatment plans will be disciplined and marijuana will no longer be listed as a drug of abuse and instead instead treated the same as alcohol. Is it just me or is this new policy shockingly reasonable. It's incredibly reasonable. I did not know that they hadn't hadn't been testing for cocaine right. I mean cocaine was the original drug frenzy in Major League Baseball back in the late seventies and early eighties so I mean that was a surprise price to me. I think treating marijuana like alcohol is eminently reasonable of course and I think you know allowing players to go to treatment and then conditioning their punishment on what they they do after they get out is is. This is a remarkable spasm of good sense on the part of Major League baseball shocking. Marvin Miller the union leader. Who brought free agency CONSI in arbitration to baseball has finally finally been elected into the hall of fame? I know you have a let them all in policy when it comes to hall of fame. But how do you feel about about Miller's upcoming induction that it's about fifteen or twenty years too late I mean that it's the fact that he wasn't inducted while he was alive was inactive pure vengeance on on the part of of Major League Baseball and unfortunately too many people in my business. Marvin Miller is without question. One of the two or three most influential people in the history of American sports parts and probably one of the five or six greatest labor leaders in American history period. So yes he should have been inducted while he was alive. Although the odds are pretty good did he would have declined invitation. Well as you say before. His death in two thousand twelve Miller actually asked that his name be removed from consideration calling the whole. Oh process a farce. So why now. Well because I think they think they can get away with it and it was such a conspicuous omission. That you know even Major League Baseball noticed this week. USA Today published a year long investigation into how the NC double deals with athletes charged with sexual misconduct conduct. And the simple answer is it doesn't there's no. NCWA rules against committing sexual or violent crimes. This from the same organization that once ruled that you could give an athlete a Bagel but not cream cheese to be entirely fair the NC. Double A. and you know how hard it is for me to say that I do It's really hard for it to be a law enforcement organization. It's not very good at it. It doesn't enforce its own rules very well. Let alone the law right now. You're seeing rollbacks at at the federal level of title Nine Enforcement Procedures Against Universities that ignore this problem it's really up to the federal government entity institutions to get their act back together. And start taking this as seriously as it once did. If you're looking for a villainous don't look at the NC double a secretary of education. Betsy Devos and finally Charlie Fantasy Premier League has more than seven million players worldwide. And as we speak the man currently sitting in fourth place in that league is a man known to fans of another another sport or game depending on your definition and that man would be not man would be. Magnus Carlsen at chess grandmaster. I think multidisciplinary athletes are a great thing. I'm waiting I'm really waiting for Callsas next. Move which I predict Karen will be Garoppolo to Bella checks night level five. You realize you're talking about the wrong kind of football right. Okay good. Charlie Pierce is the guest editor of the best American sports writing two thousand nineteen and he joins US each week at this time here on only a game. Thanks Charlie Jank's our next story is about a guy who is amazing but don't take it from me. Take it from Allen. I can't believe you're a professional football player. And then you do this amazing you you know what. It's a pretty good gig. His name is John Doran boss. He played in the NFL from two thousand three two thousand sixteen and he might be even even more impressive as a magician. I tell you what there's one there's two there's three and then there's all four three four. I thought we busted John. Doran boss is known for his a happy positive energy in front of the camera but he came to both football and magic through tragedy. Only Games Martin. Kessler has the story when twelve year. Old John Dornbos woke up for baseball camp on the morning of August. Third One thousand nine hundred ninety. Two two things were unusual. I I all his gear was out on the table not where it normally was and the garage and also his dad was there but not as mom I said. Hey where's mom. John's Dad said she'd gone swimming and I didn't think any of it and Twelve years old. I don't think you read too much into stuff like that. John got a ride from some friends later on while he was at camp. His coach approached him. Yeah he kinda came over ghost face and said Hey A John Your friends are here. They're going to pick you up there. There'd been an accident accident you gotta go and I said Okay. Yeah no problem. John Thought Maybe his dad had got hurt playing soccer. There's no way he could have predicted what had really happened. Because as far as he knew he'd grown up in a Happy Family John's dad was the president of his little league in Woodinville Washington. They'd play catch every day. John Remembers seeing his dad coming into the kitchen to find his mom. He would grab her and sneaker away and they would go into the pantry and close does the door and turn the light off and never wanted. I ever wonder what they were doing in there and then I got older and I was like oh my gosh. They were totally making out. You're like I mean that is where they keep the cookies so it makes a totally totally so as John was driven from baseball camp to the police station and he was unprepared for what he was about to learn and just a warning. That what you're about to hear is disturbing. They said your parents last night. Got An argument and and your mom was pushed down some steps and she didn't make it and right now. Your Dad is in jail. And he's being held for questioning and we're trying to get answers and figure out what happened way. I'm sorry. Wait what your parents got an argument and your mom died You know you don't really know. Oh how to react to that right. So you're just sitting there and you just get cold and I couldn't tell you if I was in that room for five minutes an hour all day I have no idea idea and at that time. I don't think there's a lot of information and I think they didn't really know what to tell me and the reality was my mom was not pushed. You Know My dad used a bench grinder sledgehammer and it was bad and it happened in the garage. John's father had spent the previous night trying to clean up the evidence but after John left for baseball camp he turned himself into police. I remember seeing you know my family's name on the front of the newspaper turn on the TV TV and it was all over the news And I just remember being embarrassed Like I remember being embarrassed for my family name and you know I I would go to school and I felt like there is a lot of times where people just didn't really know how to act around me. John didn't know it then but that concern for his family name mm would drive many of his decisions in the years to come. John's father was convicted of second degree murder and sentenced to thirteen years and eight months in prison. John was there throughout the trial. I would sit outside and just started devouring my fingernails and I had all this nervous energy. I mean I I would bite my nails to where they would bleed. I bite my nails to where when you look. Look at my finger it was like a stump and like you just see like rounded up cubicles. They were disgusting almost a year after the murder John and his sister moved to southern in California to live with their aunt. John Cut off contact with his dad. He wouldn't see him for another twenty six years not long after the move. John Return to Washington for a little league all star tournament. He stated his coach's House and the neighbor across the street was a sixteen sixteen-year-old magician and they said hey look this kid's been through a lot like maybe you can just come over and do like thirty minutes of magic and it. Maybe it'll chairman so sure enough. The kid comes over and it just it got me you know. He lit a match and looked at it in the flame. Went like ten fifteen feet high. You know he took a sponge ball. He put one spongebob on my hand. He took one it disappeared. And when I open my hand I had both of them. It was just this this cool cool world of like how is this possible. It's magic from that moment on. I was hooked. They took me to the magic shop in Seattle. They got me a book they got me. You know a couple tricks. Magic for me was my escape. It was my out magic for me. Was the one time that if I sat at a table when I was working on a trick all the chatter and the evil of the world. It just quieted and I felt like I was just a kid in that moment I wasn't thinking about my dad going to prison thinking about my mom being killed. I wasn't thinking about moving and having to start new friends. The world just became a really cool place as for me. John got good quickly because he didn't want people noticing his chewed up fingernails. He developed a fast pace in in the eighth grade. He won his school's talent show. He then started at Pacific High School in Garden Grove. High School my buddy comes up to me and says hey your kid like you should play football no way man. Footballs for dorks. I like magic and then sure enough. He's like but you can hit that guy not getting trouble. Look at a Lotta anger built up and me. I had a lot of questions and a lot of resentment. Yeah let's give it a shot so John joined the football team. He played linebacker and he loved that tail. And I had these two outlets shuffle cards. I'd listen to track number nine on repeat Felista from Yanni all and then during the day I'd play football right as is perfect balance. Magic was John's escape but sports give John a sense of family and he thought a way to bring positive attention back to his family. Name when you play sports you have your name on your back and the whole world can see it. John could have pursued college baseball but he was set on football because he wanted want to be a rockstar. He wanted to run out onto the field for a division one team in front of one hundred thousand people but there was a problem with this plan. Look here's the deal. I thought it was grace high school player ever clearly. Obviously problem is not apparently not one in college. Coach agreed with me and so no offers no looks. John says there were some good junior college teams. That wanted him but the one that got his attention was called Golden West I in nearby Huntington Beach Golden West could barely feel the team and they were Owen. Thirty one a game in three years John Thought of something a coach had told him. All you gotTa do is get on the field. And they'll find you so john played for Golden West. They lost another ten straight but he was still set playing division one football so I asked the coaches for some game film and I was going to put together my own highlight tape and send it out and so I made my highlight tape and it was good but John figured it would be even better if he worked some VCR magic check and edited in a few plays from his Golden West teammate. who was a harder hitter? The film's a little grainy. And who could tell who John also edited in some clips from. I'm the teams long snapper. That's the guy who hikes the ball for punts and kicks. It's a highly skilled position that John had played in high school. So now I gotTA highlight tape with a lot of my highlights. Highlights you know a few in next big hits and then a few attempts really really good snaps so sure enough. I got a scholarship to be a long snapper. John was headed to the division. One University of Texas Sat. I'll pass out figured out how to do it. Really really quick and I had a knack for it. But I had to fine-tuning was any part of you scared that you would get discovered as a sort of fraud for aud. Now I never scared I was Gonna get discovered because I truly didn't view myself as a fraud and I think that's kind of important to say I 'cause I knew I could do it. I done in high school and I felt like I deserved to be there. After three seasons at you tap john was considered a top. NFL Long snapping prospect. How do you think all the time you'd spend on magic helped you become a great long snapper magic actually it got me obsessed with doing something Over and over and over in search of the perfect rep but but loving that process. That's what Magic's about and that's what snap ins about. It's about taking something and just doing it. Ten Thousand Times a million times until it's right John signed with the buffalo bills in two thousand three from two thousand six to two thousand sixteen and he snapped for the Philadelphia Eagles twice. He went to the pro bowl and the whole time. John kept up the magic. He performed card tricks for his teammates in the the locker room ahead of the two thousand sixteen. NFL season. John auditioned for the TV show. America's got talent. He didn't tell the eagles he figured thirteen. Either drop out or be eliminated before it started to conflict with his day job. But during one of the early tapings John got the Golden Buzzer. That meant he was fast tracked to the shows later rounds so as John Got Ready for eagles training camp a few episodes of the show had already aired and he still hadn't had a conversation about it with the eagles. NBC thinks the Eagles. Just excuse me from training camp now. Meanwhile the Eagles have no idea what's going on and so I was like. Oh Gosh here we go. I don't know what I'm GonNa do like okay. I'm just GONNA show up to training camp and we'll see what they say when John Arrived. Jeffrey Laurie the team. Owner and other author eagles higher ups were there and they said. Why don't you tell us you're doing this? This is awesome. They wanted John to keep competing on the show. Even though the football season was starting and and they had some pretty persuasive logic they were like look. Magic's your life and let's be honest. It's not like you're the quarterback like you know what I mean like your long snapper still. John Wasn't Gordon Shark. On his eagles duties. I would go to training camp at eight in the morning my day would end at about five and there was like a six or six thirty flight to L. A. so I'd run to the airport and I would land shoot some B.. Roll do rehearsal hidden meeting. And then I'd go back to. LAX IN AT ten ten thirty. I would hit that red eye that would land at seven seven fifteen in the morning and then I would go right from the airport to my eight o'clock meeting and I would repeat that cycle on any days necessary on September eleventh. Two Thousand Sixteen. John started at long snapper in the eagles season opening win over the browns then a few days later he competed in the finale of America's got talent. He finished in third place US looking back now. John Calls it the coolest time of his life. I never wanted to say no to anything. And so even if it was like Hey John can be an L. A.. And just do this hour interview. y'All be there and I think it comes back to that sense of I just I wanted people to hear my name. I wanted people to say my name and I wanted people to associate good things with John Doran boss last played in the NFL in two thousand sixteen in two thousand seventeen. He married married his wife on a lease. Their daughter was born this year. John Now regularly performs on the Ellen Degeneres show and one last thing a a few years ago. John Stop Biting his fingernails. That's only games. Martin Kessler for much more on the life eighth of John Doran boss including his recent conversation with his dad. Check out his new book with Larry Platt. Life is magic my inspiring journey from from tragedy to self discovery. It's only a game is produced by Martin Kessler and Gary Wallich with help from Jonathan Chang. Additional help this week from Arlo more bloom and our French actor actor Ben by You. Our technical director is marquee. Neil our executive producer is me. I'm Karen Given only a game returns next week. Thanks for listening thank.

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FXR Racing/Race Tech Privateer Island #123- Cade Clason, Logan Karnow and Travis Delnicki

"Welcome everybody to another edition of the fx racing race, DHEC suspension, privateer island life podcast, this is number one twenty three in the series, and we are at an undisclosed location deep in the heart of Salt Lake City. We just had round two of the Salt Lake City supercross series. Aka Round twelve of the Monster Energy super-cross series and got three privateers in here and we're going to talk about how it went for them. HOW WEIRD! This whole thing is and more so why don't the folks at ethics racing of course used to have K- clayson wearing the author in men? That was really that was a good time. Pulp Amax Thirties Dakota save ethics racing dot com, you know who does whereas racing the club, maxine and also the Canadian supercross champion Film Nicoletti all wearing epic, czar brock tickle should be back. We hope this weekend. 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The Pope Amax show many times cake. So what's up, man? How are you? WHAT'S UP Steve? How're you? We don't have Jim Hallway here to completely overshadow you and that's okay. Yeah, that's just a legend. It's okay I'm going to be a big deal today. How about that? Last night was Gary. We'll get into that. We'll get into what happened to. Also joining us a guy I don't know it all, but I'm happy to have him here. He's a privateer out there, Travis you. What's up, man? How are you, Steve? Thanks coming in thanks for having me no problem man how to go free last night. Made a lot of progress on Sunday for sure I was not expecting to be here a couple of weeks ago and I was sitting at home, so it's last minute, but trying to get back in the groove. I've definitely made a lot of progress today, so I'm pretty. The good news is you got racist every other day this thing on Friday tomorrow. We'll talk about that too I up though Kate. You're the veteran on his group here. One thing that we talked about last night like. Okay, so we raised on Sunday. It was hot and guys struggling. Two days later. We're racing again at night cooler temperatures. There was really nice out, but man. There are some guys and I don't know about. You didn't notice it too much with you, but there are some guys on the struggle bus, is it? Elevation is a lot less time between the races but I mean there was like alight looked, amazing and web looked amazing. Zakho great to. Do some big name. Guys Roxanne Anderson. Freeze. Hill, these guys. It looks like this is taking a toll on them and we're only two races in. Yeah, it's. It's definitely harder harder than I thought it was going to be but. I mean it's not an issue for me, but I. I definitely know a few privateers that are struggling pretty hours has sickness. Jerry Yeah Breeze. Really struggling with it and for me, it's just really trying to manage it like I've been mountain biking nonstop and still riding. For me I feel good and I think cycling at elevation. Rahm at home in Arizona. Yeah so. I mean to be fair to you. Guys I haven't made the main. Yet I mean yeah. Of that, BUT STILL YEAH DUDE! You just notice some guys. They're one hundred percent. I I haven't had to put an extra workloads. Yeah, I, don't know the full effect, but for myself like I feel good feel totally normal like normal. Like I might be a little more sore than normal from a short Sunday to Wednesday, yeah! But that's really it. But the best part is we're not traveling, so I feel like most people should be recovering faster. because. They're not traveling accents. Yeah, for sure Logan. What about you? How's it been for you? I think it's definitely harder. I mean I definitely noticed at the end of my heater and I'm definitely huffing and puffing. I feel good I. Don't feel like I'm struggling like the other guys. Are you know what I'm talking about? Though you've seen this right, you've seen the guys. Yeah, dude, it's it's rough. Yeah, there's a lot of guys recently by in the heat race. Oh. Yeah, no, no Britain breese was a lap away falling apart Q. Again. He pushed hard, but he. Had nothing to main event, so he made the main. He race the main concern to lapse. Lapse but I mean, but I think okay so. If! We were at sea level, or whatever vegas where I live or Are we still seeing what what's the greater effect here on the on the guys? The altitude, the two days between races, the the heat on Sunday. Like what what's the biggest thing is altitude, I think its altitude and then a little bit of he come. The distance between races is not a problem. If you have a problem with that, you visit supercross I mean we're not. Talking different things. Like how many days a week do we ride? Three four four. At all get off. That's what Alex said Yeah. That's me. I. Never I know I'm joking, but yeah, so so altitude. Altitude yeah for you, too. Yeah for me personally. Is got to me a little bit. But I noticed altitude when put in a heater or like you get your heart rate up. It's hard to bring it back down. To relax. I. I've Been Park City the last couple of days biking. That's three thousand feet higher than here. Dude, I'm struggling, but I got to meet bike, and whatever? It's fine, but I'm just like wow! There are guys that are world class. Guys out there and they look like they're struggling Kenny Anderson. I mean I. Figured Kenny would be a little bit better with the altitude. I mean I know. He's you know he's probably not back to where his top form is compared to a couple of years ago, but I mean even though I. I feel like he would have been a little bit more prepared for it I. Mean Obviously Eli. GonNa crush it. Yeah, yeah, I think we're seeing okay. I think we're seeing two things that are massively beneficial. Are this series Tomac and star Racing House. Like starbucks are fast. Triple onto that table got that the triple-triple no problem. I didn't even think about none of that table and Shane Chase and Cole is. What chase the Texan sex ended impract-. Okay Alright. Yeah, yeah, it's a man it. Those two things are really loving. This this new series here. You've been the three out of the corner last weekend. Shane was the only that did it. I can't even remember okay. So Logan for you to fifty guy. Doing well on the west coast, any problems getting into the feels like when you said Hey I want to I want to be there. Can I be wider fifty and they're like well. We don't know because you're not ready for the Guy To around fifty where they balking a little bit on that, yeah a little bit. They said they would go off of. like if you scored a point. And then it went to national numbers which I should have been right in right there. But I think they kind of pushed me back because I was in the two fifty class. Yeah, no problem getting in the West Side for you right? Obviously yeah, so they were kind of a little bit weird about that. which I understand like? Why should I be able to get to raise for the west coast here at the same time like I was on the East? I was on the east, coast, racing Should get a benefit for being out on the East Coast. Okay it's not like I. Just want to jump in. I've I've been I've been there. Yeah, so I ended up calling travis and I was bugging him for a while to see if he would come with me because I was going to plan on just kind of come out here by myself. Okay, and he said he was gonNA come, so I was like well, screw it. Let's just go and hope that I can get in, and also you didn't have a spa when you came out here. Now I love and that's bucket. I left just. What are you doing here like? I left hope. They were GONNA. Let me race and the Friday before the race I got a call from Mike Pelletier like Joon. Cross can't get over the border, so you're in I was like. See. Across was leading the Yamaha q challenge there and I think he's still trying to get in. You may be bumped these shows up. Did they tell you that I'm not in not definitely not in I'm an alternate forever eight okay and they. Called me two days before by slack straight. Out, so you're. There right so there's a chance you don't ride on Wednesday or Sunday sorry. Loss everybody's back. I'm out now right? I think he's GonNa. Try Yeah and for you, Travis. How was it so you didn't get? You said you didn't have easy getting either that work at now on I got a cau-, Saturday Logan, where are you from Connecticut all right so looking at already been bugging me to come out with them and I was like. I, don't know so. I I reach out to Mike. Powell told him I was interested and then. It was a Saturday evening. I got a call saying that I was the first alternate. Okay, so you're here, you're here. You're just coming out just like. I got that call Saturday, and Monday away Logan's house and I will I'm sorry so I thought Saturday before the race. Before okay, yeah, this is a couple of weeks, said you're an alternate your first alternate. Yeah, this is a couple of weeks ago. And so Saturday got that call Monday as my way and I was I alternate, I didn't know for sure if I was racing a couple of days, Hill went down so that put me in. and. Someone told me there. A couple of guys made never made night shows. That racing a couple. Yeah, so I mean okay, so obviously look. This is all PR stuff, but I asked Prater. We had medium day prater from supercars, I said Hey. I'm going to have forty guys class. Because A. It's expensive to stay here the whole time be you're cutting the purse money which we'll get to in a second I already, the person typically classes is not good so I was thinking to fifty guys. Are you going to have forty like? Yep, no problem. We're going to have forty. Blah Blah Blah and they do, but they have some guys like yeah, normal. Maybe not wouldn't be in the night show. Yeah, which I mean, whatever I mean, there's one guy he's struggling. Yeah. He's struggling. Four fifty classes the same way, yeah! But there's plenty of fast foods. I don't know why they're not here like why did? What his name privateer Ted Park. Why aren't they here? Yeah I don't know the cat while the cat. Go why the CAL Academy initially school. The cat makes you know. He pays for his travel and stuff with the money he makes. He makes good money doing schools and it gets to be home with this chick. When you when you have a job at home, it makes sense. You know. Plus he's trying to get ready 'cause. He's going to do a few outdoors, so he's a boy. So you're an alternate every week. No, you're in half. You're it. Yeah, so they said that and you're staying the whole time. You're doing the whole thing and you're in the whole time, right? Right. Me Too and I'm aware of that. So. What are your thoughts of asked a couple of privateers. This couple of people I think startling startling was in on Monday. And we. Talked about this I'll start with you logan. Look I'm the. Hammer Feld if for things, but you know they cut purse, seventeen percent or twenty, whichever seventeen for the series twenty? Per Race. Kind of sucks. It's not real great to start with class that your thoughts on that. I don't think it was even seventeen percent I got paid and it was. Maybe two hundred dollars less than I. Normally would. That's. Cuts. Percent I don't think so twenty percent of twelve hundred dollars just over two hundred dollars I. Think I got paid like thousand, sixty, nine or something and. I guarantee you they. Put the cuts. They would definitely. It wasn't as much as I thought it was going to be okay, so I I mean it's not that big of a deal and we're stuck. Contingency to. Class, so your your dial. Yeah, as far as money goes Zoa. Totally. I feel bad for the lights. Guys before fifty guys like we complain, but we shouldn't complain as much like the white suits get screwed like there's no. There's honestly no reason they shouldn't get paid the same amount that we should. You know there's just as many fast guys and. I mean. Yeah, there's probably a few rookies at the back that probably don't deserve the same amount, but in reality the dudes are just the delights. Guys are just as fast like there's no the whole a whole two classes broken, so it's supposed to be entry class. It's supposed to be a learning class, and then get get get out of there. Okay, Great. That was always designed. Pointing out rules were pretty strict. Everything else. That's gone. Dude like there's no reason for for these for these guys now like j Mart may take a dive here because he hasn't pointed out. So watch for that coming up, he may I'm not saying for sure. Make It wide open, no rule stay there as long as you want. If you're Jay, Mart and you're five foot nothing and you're better on a tooth fifty great stay there as long as you want I agree, or or make it way stricter and get the get the factory guys that have been there for seven eight years out of their one of the two were stuck in the middle now now I think the second way it just wouldn't work. Sorry I got I got gotTa really get up on this thing. Okay, I've been bought. The, factory dudes. There's only a couple that have stayed in a little too long. I think, but the problem is. There's nowhere for them to go. I know so I said Yeah. I'm agreeing with you that the second way making it stricter, it's just going to really it's going to motivate people to not turn pro because they're not going to be a spot. Yeah, I agree so the original intent of the class though is long gone. It's broken so chives for you with the person money reduction I. Mean you're just happy to be here for sure but. It's probably looks I. Don't know what you guys are doing. You're an AIRBNB. What are you? What are you guys? Travis are just putting a hotel. You guys putting hotel. Okay, you're in a guest, guess. My buddies got sal okay. Do. You think you're going to end up making money though. You don't have definitely not off the first. But. It's not gonNA cost too much being out here. Okay, I'm not making money off the purse right right so how you doing how you making money. Well Funny Story, the only reason I am here. At Wendy's during the week. Before I, came out I got laid off do I'm a machinist. Okay, so got laid off and going on and on Jack Yeah. That's what's doing. Hey Why not you know right no I. Know I agree, but as far as the racing of it. Will you make money? Logan, will you end up making money I would say yeah. I got on the floor fifty class. Yes Oh yeah, but if you just wear to. privateer lose my ass. I think he would lose money because I. Felt God has a pretty good right here. This undisclosed location but I'm still this things cost me. You know what I mean like as far as a journalist guy and DVD I ain't good enough to really. Crushing so for sure. The guys can if you got if you split a place with a buddy. Undisclosed location place you can make money for sure, and if you think about like those guys that are doing seven races and three weeks. That's not or fifty class. You're a main event guy or kate I mean you're getting fifth sixth seventh and cues, maybe further back. You're getting what sixteen hundred. Fourteen hundred with the cuts and stuff yeah like. A week fourteen times seven. Let's say you don't make any mains. You're fine. You'RE GONNA. Make some money. which is which is good, but to fifty guys who man so? X Race Tech suspension privateer island live podcast a Dell Nikki where affects our. How's it going? Everything good. Without Andy White at all Delta few times. My Buddy Jack out the gummy and the. Andy few. Andy Arcade. Department we make fun of them? How Man Okay all right next thirty to save are racing dot com also thanks to the folks at Race Tech. You're using race tech. Tech finally got some tickets. Put on. I got some. They didn't blow off this time. Okay, yeah, you got a problem with. I was going too fast. Yeah, for sure and thanks to the folks that firepower using fire to I am so as Logan Carnival. So, yeah, firepower as well changed these chains batteries. I don't think so. Thank Electric Start. Point. I think I got one in my. Car Parts Dot com got oil as well. Thanks, folks in the Mirror of course Alex. right using the Mirror Pistons, did you? That's great. Car Blow off yesterday. No! Can. We please the end of this. facetime me when I pulled the parking lot. I didn't see anything. You didn't even push me off the side of the finish line last night I almost killed you. I rolled it behind y'all plea landed I landed on the tough blocks on the side of the whoops. Really Yeah. I watched him. Go by you I feel like I didn't see anything else. Did you see him. Go by me the second time. Oh, I might have been as I thought because I didn't see that I saw the second one after the finish I believe. That was fine all I. was watching I kinda paid him back. I like I cross jumped in this not as bad, but I like intentionally did it and left him a little bit of room, but I was like dude. What the fuck like! Straight up grammy off the side of the tension and I wrote I wrote the whole Elsie Q. and first year. Why because my shift was. Onto the top of my leg, and then add shift up with my heel, but then as soon as I shift up and put my foot back on downshift back over. The whole thing and I year. Good thing I was jumping the whoops. What it saw. That would have been great I was so. Are you guys back off now? Dude I I don't know man. He's in his own little world of just being a Dick. Sometimes and I'm over it. He gets angry when he doesn't make. The main event doesn't make the magazine rods like an asshole half the time. I didn't see it. I saw his cages. Lock up the brakes right in front before the finish and I almost died with you. And I almost landed on you on the triple do. Early first lap I two guys that got squarely in front of me. Thanks Kate House the. Are You, are you? Is it killing you? He's doing just fine I. Think you're right, okay, yeah! But is it bad? For the start. I think it'd be. Get everything else your. disadvantage. How I made this joke last night on the review show or some other show or God knows what. How much better was that track yesterday? As opposed to Sunday, it was eight thousand percent better ten thousand percent better. Yesterday's check I could've done with A. Little bit shorter set of loops well. Okay, we'll talk, but I mean I. mean construction the water the way the layout or A job with the wasn't it crushed it. Sunday? Look like miserable just but I feel like they're going to have to like. Switch up how they're doing their prep job. Okay, you know like go back to having a dry one day and having it moist one day to kind of help you don't do that. You can't have it super good every single time. It was really shitty for the two fifty practices on Sunday. It was you know what I mean? They're trying so yeah. You were caught that. Came back just covered. Yeah, I, heard about. Look back from the press box to so. And props to felt guys because they had said to me to the media, they thought they were going to be able to change one lane or two lanes, and a lot of it would stay the same track awesome. Yeah, they're gonNA. Have you seen the traps? They're going to change it completely. We yeah, so that's crush. CAJAL FOR THOSE GUYS? Many Corey whatever the all the other dudes. Inquiry, it looked fun last night. Look good track. Whoops were tough GNARLED. Like if you figured out how to jump through, it was sick. Web and Osmo are making it happen by jumping. You know what I mean. It really wasn't much slower Kenny came up on. Him was blitzing deal. I was blitzing. I could jump through Ambassador Nuggets game on. To all day, I figured out quick I feel like I was like one of the first ones doing in my practice it on the last lap of the first qualifying practice. And that was pump for the next. Right right. Yeah, it's just three three three and then four out or something I think three all the way through. Yeah, yeah, so. All right, so what about Salt Lake itself like they told. Review! Travis, they told us it was forty eight hours away from being seventies in Saint Louis. That's how close it came to us. Being stuck in Saint Louis now, Anton Anton would love it. Outside of Anton, I. Don't know we're in salt, Lake. We had some riots protests. Mike Lindsay look almost got be down. Did you see them come by the pitch? Yesterday I was waiting on that that would have been. We're right next door rig. Jt was in the middle of it in the belly of the beast as he said because he went to go get your Portland and he was driving through and. So, but anyways for you. How Salt Lake, you know, how is it? What do you think? Up that it's in Salt Lake. You know it's completely different from what I'm used to England, so it's cool just to be out here to good atmosphere and compared to Saint Louis. It's not only it was maybe going to be. Oh Glendale. Our like Linda. Linda yeah, but it would have been hot there. Would have been really hard to keep it the stadium cool. At our house right now it's like one hundred and ten right so. What about you? It's cool city. Where are you from Ohio Yeah Logan and I grew up together in Ohio. No I didn't up. I didn't know you guys were. Like would we like my second race ever? My Dad had to borrow apart. Over. That oh okay. Oh, fun fact. Easter as squads? Yeah We covered Shan quads at the same time. Oh, I thought it was started as a kid on Claude's I. Did I started racing both? At the same time I mean I honestly I. Over talking about quads because it was. Three weeks. Did you find Keefer quad yet? We know we have lined up I. Think he's doing it. As soon as everything calms down, we're getting more Yamaha. One of the guys quads and he's going to do something. I don't know why. Something, did you see maybe he? Maybe he'll fail at that. Do the nationals like this? That's whatever you don't see my tweet. That guy's GonNa. Let me ride when I come back to Ohio with my buddy. Builds all the race quads teams. Yeah, he's got one. He's ME I. COME BACK! Might, be off the team. T motor make it down. Doing okay because he was a little bit of problem there. Mechanic, got stuck at the post. They're in their good will. They should have been leading the first time with the paperwork. Had I guess the Border Guy was just a dick, but happens for that, and so they went back. They called the border that got some they got approved got some paperwork from Yemen. They flew and they said that just walked across. Really Yeah, yeah, yeah! I it really depends on how they've got the guys having a good day or not. How things are going to go, it was nerve wracking when you race in Canada and you fly back and forth Oh. Yeah. Oh Yeah I. Fortunately Race for five years never had a problem, right? Yeah. Same with me, I was I was living down here and then going across. See My parents stuff. She my pants all the time. Does your mom still live up there? Yes, and sort of POPs up, but about your dad's so I don't know we don't talk. That's why off. Fireworks. emoto this privateer. Ethics are racing race tech suspension privateer. PODCAST number one twenty twenty-three. Logan Carnell Cake Travis del Vecchio here. THANKS FIREPOWER! Thank you to maxis and thank you the mirror as well. All right so you? Had your best qualifying. All Year now I qualified twenty Atlanta. You tied your best. Qualifying qualified twenty first as to what happened. I. Don't know this is how I ride normally, so it's what happened all the other frigging rounds. So where were your stars? Last night covered. My start in the here as well isn't actually bad. I think I started like eighth or ninth. You know and then Babai obviously and kind of just wrote around and eleventh. But My CQ star. So magically I started in I yesterday. Because I couldn't get second to Paul. Right off the great. Okay, so I I, did I all day, and it was working great, and then for some magical reason I spun. I right yeah. Percent I spun on the Great Okay. I I've never spun. Ever. Just Spun Sat, there clutched it and Carlin moved over in front of me, and I had nowhere to go. Push me into the tough blocks because the first gate. So started last and Dude Erin I came up to probably like. A on the first lap, we were like in a good position. Shears was somewhere around there to. Him I think it was me. nachos minute. No. It was me me Adam and array. Of the heat okay. And we got up till I on the first lap and then. Yeah, just my backwards in the. Having while you're a push me off the. Okay all right all right while you bombed. I mean qualifying. I almost broke a table at our when I got back there. You're pretty. I was pretty I. Haven't I I honestly haven't been. Pretty bad. I haven't been mad in a long time like dude. I got undressed so fast and just bounce. And Yeah, because it's just frustrating because I know that I could go fast. Yeah, that's not the issue. It's just like I keep putting myself in just ship positions. I haven't seen you get a start yet I, haven't. Gotten to start one year at all at one time ever. You might be the only guy who starts a worse than Deuce. He starts at garbage to do. You know what's magical? We went around the first turn and the together. Yeah, and I was like arnold him because he's going fast heck. He was crushing the wolves. Rushing the. War In practice! I followed him a whole APP. I'm like Oh this lapse going to be sick staying with him and we got to the whoops, and he just disappeared and Mike All Right. This is one two seconds he was. He was good, though he's big ASS gas. Okay, he made the main. I didn't got zero points. Yeah, we need to calculate that Elsie Yamaha CQ. He got zero points. Yeah, we were aware I think Bob might be doing maybe winning and winning and then. I think Schmidt and I might be tied now. I'll get my guy on it so. For you logan like? What are you on the West? What well how many points you got? Seven yeah, so you're twentieth. Yeah academia target okay. That's you're focuses. That's what you want. This is going to help you totally like this is really going to help you. Guys have been raising forever. You'RE GONNA come out your first back to session in the CD group and probably crush it. Up So I've been riding. Really good like yesterday riding I was that might have been the best. I've ever wrote supercross race in my life. I qualified Yup twenty-fifth, which is maybe the best. I have four fifty class, and then my heat race. I I wrote pretty good. I was pretty much behind Kate. The the whole the whole race until like the last. I've made a couple of mistakes and he pulled a little bit, so I just cruise last lap and then Lsu q i Got a terrible start. I was. By the time we hit the super crusher probably like. Eleven twelve. You didn't hit the supervisor will when I got to this regard. And enrolled lost few spots, and then K. gets before the finish and made me roll the finish, so I actually went over the finish I looked on the lap, thing fifteenth and came back to Eighth Oh. That's good on DEF. Yeah, remember, that's really what are you? GonNa do if he makes the main and you don't. What are you GonNa do I? Mean I'm not gonNA. Do any good writer. What's wrong? What's wrong with? It makes me. Are you gonNa Break Shit. Almost had yesterday, and then now this gone into the going to get in if it happens I mean, he's a good rider I'm not trying. We're trying to I'm not I'm just wondering how your mental state will be I mean there's probably it's not gonNA. Get worse than it already is. But, the amazing part is this guy. Does those times without doing the rhythm sections? He doubles everything really fast. On I turn on off three I went on off. Two to three day doubled out. Did you ever time. That did anybody I tried doing this fast. What it was definitely faster. I tried to see the difference. Your tip to me was wrong. Go over three. That was wrong. I was that my tip? You guys are doing that now. You said you need to go over the table and is like. Oh, I think I meant the other table the one out of the next her. Oh, yeah? I think what I was talking to me. What I wanted to do was when we would go. Three three role I wanted to land the brakes. Go inside roll over three three. Oh Jeez. Actually, Driving how was your race? You're you're. Better. I just really. My goal is to just get in the mix to be. Put myself in a spot to make a main event. And I've been a little bit off from whereas kind of. Did you ride soupy on this break? I was Gonna ask I saw current Thurmond's here, and he didn't have a good Sunday, but then he wrote obviously road great spot right and I said to. What happened? He's like do Heinberg Ziprecruiter's he's. Like what sky neighbor Gaza so same position view right I haven't really supercross in like a year. I did that. Did and Daytonas a little bit Meller Yup Kinda. Get Away with it, so I haven't really been a real supercross track and over year and Sunday. I was like wow. Specified. Was a bad idea. I mean on the road I wrote probably five times. Act Whatever track yet, but then I blew out my wheel. The week a whole week before the last, or before the first round I didn't ride until I got here. I wrote one day and then raced. Zombie Zombie wrote five times. He told me before this crash since it showed up and then he just gets out of top ten. Up. From Sunday after Sunday, you look tired and struggling in how much he can move his wrist. If it's probably more now, but the first day we wrote together you. Barely moved right and it's like throttle hand. Guys. It's just a real ma'am. Tough things out zombies the warriors. He's just like I screw that you know what I mean so. Yeah so for you, Travis it was. It's been a little bit of a adapting to again. Yesterday was a lot better though I'm pretty happy with the progress and in just one day so. I think I think it'd be a good spot by the by the last east coast. Are you saying the whole time? You're here right so. I was wondering if East Coast guys would go back, but I guess you really worth it right. Yeah, some of them are. The guys are going back. They are. He's two weeks right so basically to to. To Racist Right I don't why I mean. It's five days like why not just stay? You're GONNA boy somewhere. Going all the way back supercross tracks here. There's plenty of supercross checks here. You can't put one extra day on your race bike. Maybe this protests of the rights. Kate Logan wasn't scared the protests. I had yell at Logan. Why was upset when you got? On the plane data lot. He was in the protests like actually out there, fucking holding a sign dude. Were you. Mid Protests. They were in the square. He was in the square. He he leaves. It goes back to the hotel two minutes he gets back to do. We were standing right next to that guy. And he was like on the news and I'm just like dammit lower I'd. Why can't say one of the guys that put the Car Dyke Hat on? I saw him actually live. The GEICO Guy Lot Logan. His teacher got on TV. Show. Now down there. Yeah, he's upset. ME TURNS US all. Our whole team was like in different locations watching. Went to dinner me. And Travis went to dinner and we're cruising. The little scooter is back and we saw it really screw. Let's just go check it out, so we got all up in it. Michael obviously yeah. Yeah. Ninety. Hey so Friday night. There's a race now. Has Been doing you know this is all stuff from the state? Like as far as the the precautions we've been taking and things. We've got to do to have this race. And It's. Not a lot of it isn't is. Just for show, and we want to a good thing all that i. get it well now. There's race on Friday night where everybody's just going to hang out and no one's probably gonNA. Put Masks on and I wonder if he's GonNa. Be Like just face plant just God. We're trying everything to have these races, but let's talk about this thing, so it's at Miller motorsports park by their anyways. DEADMAN's deadman. Okay, so you doing it? I probably not not the first one was. Probably not the first one. Do you WANNA. Do this next to cage your insults every Friday night while we're here. Bro and it's money rice. These guys are dumb and you're in I'm in. Like? I just it's fine. I got to make A. Forty minutes writing I've out on I'm I'm a guy for the private here? So you guys need to make money and all that but. It's not a good look to have a race on a Friday night where everyone's going to hang out and we've all been told not to hang out. I'm mean who said. I'm going to hang out with anybody because it'll be much hanging on tailgates and doing whatever. Bro, so, your team's going. How you getting? What are you doing? Take my big up to. My proudest by. Yeah, you told McEnroe married by. Too Much Cry House accuse. This'll be interesting I. Guess I mean good for you. There's extra money there. It's pretty good. I mean they haven't I mean we're not breaking any rules right I know. I make I think I made. Fifteen, thousand, seven fifty. Goes on. That's be Uber. You gotTA show. You guys kidding. Walk be their race. You said no saving the first one. Well, the first ones tomorrow I know, and that's the thing we. Have a mechanic like dude. He literally here Solo, so you know what if you decide to raise small beer mechanic? Actually I was supposed to be his mechanic for the first few days. Yeah. Yes I've been on my own, so he's been on the shuttle bus. But like since ours is sick now he's. Not He's out. He's out. I may do something with them, so he's out. Braces brought to you. Honestly I doubt area. Does it anyway? He's too big time. Probably, okay. But I would think like why do it? He's on the Flyer. S. On every fire. That's a big deal. stews, Bro. I heard from somebody that rather rider that Adam was not taking the mask on seriously mask on rural was not taking it seriously really. Can you confirm or deny this? I don't see him at okay, but why I was in the tunnel it. No problems there's. There's a loose ruling. Yeah and you. And your altogether and people yelling and talking in your. What's the weirdest part about this whole thing to me is when we're sitting on the starting line and the race before ends, and it's just dead quiet. I yelled yesterday on. The line for our heat race and it just echoed buddy gay just started dying laughing. Out of Adam, told me was gonNA bring like boom bottle down and play some music, but some jams, or at least we had a DJ. Did today or yesterday Sunday? They didn't. It was so weird. Is that for? House in sits. Kinda, goofy. Either you guys got your gate and. That's what's weird is getting to. The Gate is Kinda Awkward because it's hard to like because we don't take our bike, we go up all of us as riders. We're all looking at gates, but no one actually picks gate until they take their bike. You know I'm yeah, so. The device reset our device in the tunnel. Somehow could do by myself. This whole shot device down about two and a half inches. Paulie he just rides. He rides down the ramp. A handful of front break into slaps it with his hand. Some skill mandate so cool. It's right. It takes some skill to Marvin and Kenny Book. We their legs right with their feet, or whatever that? That's pretty GNARLY well. I don't know. I think I was a privateer. I'd be at that race tomorrow night. Officer I I'd be there. Unless one of those one of the field guys text me and say hey. We'd rather than not do this it'd be. Is it full soupy? Yes, the one that attempts when testing at Thoughtful? What do you mean it doesn't look like as looks a little smaller now? There's two of them lanes set a whoops at triple. Finish line, then fine. Triple big the factory guys weren't doing it yeah really. I think they made it smaller. Now I need to go out there and watch this watch. Some guys ended off the. Tone of going. I talked to him earlier today. I thought he'd be protesting. A protester I think yeah. I think he's on board with all that yeah. I mean I'm. There's melting down on twitter. I'm fine with the protesting I'm not okay with. The looting, right? This summer. What are you going to do? What are you GonNa do Logan this summer. I plan on doing a lot of like riding schools like right before I left for here I got my track pretty much like all ready to go, and as soon as I get home I'm going to I'm going to get a dozer out there and just start doing like a lot of like private writing schools that you. I've been working with kids a lot probably three at least three days a week. Okay, training kids, so that's been really good I've got a couple. Dad's like working i. Realizing me, me. We're not doing Canadian stuff. Not really honestly. NON-NATIONAL I might do like one or two. Maybe I don't really want to. Euro Aaron Arizona now. It's not easy to get. There and it's it's not financial doesn't make sense at all Karnad did one of these with you awhile ago and you tell me how you crush it in his becky Becca arena cross series. This year what? Bomb. You're going to go back. All Right My love raped by billions house. Okay, so they all go on Josh Go St. Julian's House and then it just go. Do these races? Yeah, dude, it's so it was happening. You'd be out total. Damn. Riviera loop on. Those were all. Those, were around in my day south yeah, and you're holding up for work. I'll be back at work I also I. Do you want to go to Canada and do some stuff? Then you do some outdoor around last year. I did a couple of outdoors Anna. The supercross. Fanta. and. Go Okay Yeah as the first time I'd been up there and honestly I. Wish I went up there a long time ago, so it's cool, Vasco it really is. There's not a ton of money, but there are some I mean you can do Chambas. Yeah for me. They're not that far like six eight hours. It's pretty convenient. Yeah, what's your thought on the new Moto land up there? You know what I think. It's like that dude. Is. Phil Phil I know, but I feel not happy, but I like it one motor on Saturday to on Sunday, and they're going to get them. You know they're going to get what they're going to get fifteen. Yeah I liked that. Logan look still confused so okay. Basically, they're going to do. Practice qualifying and Moto one on Saturday Sunday that count as one round. Yeah, one Moto is one around. One Moto and then Sunday is no, no no to Sunday. Moto two and Moto three, and it's a three Moto format for one round. Oh, are you sure they don't? For each day do. Over all three races. We'll have a gopher dunes champion after three motos. Whatever so I like it. Hey, listen if you can't have races and you got your scrambling to figure out. Why not less traveling to one motor on Saturday might? Or at Gopher might. kind of catch up to the guy's a little bit if it's hot. Crappy, one moto well, yeah, thirty minute motor the day before you do to thirty s at Santoli in July. I think they'll be okay. I didn't realize you were just an elite athlete. Orally athletes like. No I like that I. think that's kind of cool and what they're doing. One hundred percent so. Thanks to affix racing efforts are the official gear Clayson for many many years. And then he left fx racing and things have just turned south form since he left Pixar. Pulp Mix thirties coded say with efforts are racing dot com brock tickle by the way. It's not. We're going for him. I think that's a JJ are thing. I saw go like head back to the pits like after the Elsie Q I was like Oh. Freddie Freddie crash fourteen times yesterday yeah really. That's a slight exageration, but Freddie Freddie struggled. tickle there was epochs ours guy broke his other hand so hopefully racing. There's no way he's going to race on Sunday. I don't in my hand and it is so painful. You can break in your hand. So who knows maybe fracture crack different fracture in a cracker still broken. That doesn't mean it's a difference different. so we'll see a race tech suspension as well Pulp Twenty eight with the folks that Race Tech Malcolm Stewart, winning Montreal supercross with United. States spent years ago Michael. Se Winning Fight Club. No nothing yeah, cycle up. But One Jersey Number One jersey. Also thanks into mirror firepower, and of course the folks at Max's Self. I've never heard of this new MIRA any more involvement. We'll get you a piston kit from there and you can try on. or Uses them, so you know they're good and you know they're used to being wrapped at high levels for a long time. So God. He's so loose. You know how when you were a kid I don't know if you guys are too young. Probably, but one of the things you did one of the things. Your parents did as a kid as they took a little piece of. Pipe and it cut in the shape of the throttle slide. And so you could, you couldn't open the throttle all the way that's way to govern the throttle you put at the top of the slide, and then it would only go so far before the PGA tubing and the bike only go so fast. This. Needs that because he comes into a turn, and then just goes like this and makes three turns in turn, because his back in comes out because he's on the gas, I think, cody. Cody shock is cody but man. He likes to read that thing to. Their why gant was talking about it for pulp mixed fantasy? and. We're just like no, no doesn't matter what is time is and he's time. Wasn't that great, but it doesn't matter if he's number one in this practice. Somebody ended up picking him. Know somebody picked. Fourth I think in the key for Awhile Ashton. No. You guys know somebody I'm sure his picture was okay. It was decent. Because because he's got skills. by He's fast. Do! Unbelievable cannot keep it on two wheels. He can't so. Again he's in thirty. Cue doesn't matter. It doesn't cause. Why can't was like? Oh, thanks, guys, look a chocolate tanks and we're like. Well, that's harsh. Somebody picked me yesterday and then afterwards. Did you blown out I didn't get blown out, but. You feel bad cardinals paying off on the West. It's been good. Maybe you guys should lower Dang handicap! Now Yeah I don't know what it is now, but for for for few rounds area. You're crushing so. Listen. You're having a better year than last year. Last year was kind of your breakout year. This year you're doing a little bit better. thinking. I mean obviously go right to keep working. Keep getting better results as a privateer guy. You gotta be stoked though I think with everything. Yeah, I'm superstock with Tom Reid and this year I already got a couple. To top fifteen's. And I'm just like with how been riding like I? Don't feel like it's crazy to say. I can't be like ten to twelve guy like battling with is like. Castelo and those guys like I with. Can, wage being. Really. At an advantage already riding here, riding the dirt riding the stadium. Oh I do, too. I think it's really gonNA help you, have you? Have you caught the eye of some people? Feel like get more attention from sponsors slash teams not really. Not really not really. I just I just think when you Logan has a great instagram game, but him selling himself as not so good. I'm not very good at asking for things. How how's the chick issue going on? How's the girl cy our we need. We Need Info on this. Show keefer. I wasn't expecting images. Blow me out. You're talking about I figured you'd be listening. Did you hear this? Next to me Keefer I. Don't know where he pulls out this stuff, but he he's a total creeper and yeah. That's cool became a ten minute topic the show fifteen minutes now we're okay. We're talking I. Mean we're not like together together, but I mean. We're still talking, so you're on a break. He's still in there. I don't think you can do that I. Don't think you can be broken up, but still talking all the time you can talk. Once every couple of weeks now it's a month, not sure, but like would you be off? Still be talking, because then, what are you doing? Yeah, it's just we both wanted to work so bad, though, but it's just like it's kind of a show right now. Fight a lot, okay. They fight a lot. It her fault or his fault or they're both. Very stubborn, and are they both insanely jealous. This. To A T. been this. Situation. That's what he keeps saying. It's complicated bad. It's. Always complicated, so they're both though like he's not crazy than her, she's not. Say. They're both equally falls. Yeah, we both have such strong personalities, and like we never want to admit that we're wrong eating. We know wrong, so we'll just argue about the dumbest shit all the time. Sometimes, it's really funny. Edgy leave. pissed off. I think it's great. It's definitely. Think, so are you hi Tulsa you'll come back around. Yes, Kate prediction comeback around I'm. He'd be dumb if he didn't figure it out and Keefer accounts locks so only one photo over. That's okay, but she saw. She smoking hot. What do you think they make it to? The kids make it. They could make it, but it's. It's literally. It's goes great one day. The next day I was like one phone call goes well. Twenty minutes later new call. Not Good not a couple of days later twenty, million later, literally twenty minutes or less grow. Listen I don't know her and all that, but we'll get. We need a wife Pod. You need to do pie with data. And then I got so fucking mad because the chicks. Wouldn't commit to it. I buy them a plane ticket to come out and do the show, and then they wouldn't do it and be like. Oh, I couldn't make. I'm like okay. Cool and I would drop mass offense. Can you pay me back to his airline ticket? Because it's in your name and I? Can't you know you can use airline ticket for whatever you need to do, and at two of them did it to me like within. A month. Why don't you just do phone phone pods? I wanted to do it. Having Valentine's Day or whatever show or chick show or something? anyways. So! How about you pay for the ticket that you blew that you committed to? And then you blew it off on, and I think I got any money now. No. Dominant. Woman woman thing I'm done with it. See you guys later. I'm not wasting money on plane tickets. What do you tell me you're GONNA? Come up and be there and you don't show up twice. Twice, yeah twice so anyway. Chicks yeah, yeah, two different chicks, and that's why I was like. Okay. Forget it forget it. I would really it would have been really funny if it would have been the same chick that did not no, no I'll tell you what they are after the show. So I haven't done any chicks that that was. The end of chick shows never again. Okay. So that's very, but maybe maybe we could. Do you know it'd be good if she called him because they're both stubborn, right? They're both like now you'd met. She called in Logan called in and then Kiefer. Worked maybe. He would live for that. He I don't give a shit too much, so I think. That maybe coffee with Kiefer's. Right here we go see a keefer would love it. Dude love. It would be totally beneficial because I keep I was so smart when it comes to stuff like that like his. I'm confident. He is confident. No He's not you don't think so no. One Time Guy was cheated on his chick or cheat on the guy and he was just bury it. Dude! I'm like what Ya just barrier another time. I like it when the last week the dude called in here ask of course there man I'll tell you. That's pretty shitty was wiped I. Got Four kids and everything he didn't want to get back in the game and then another time you know his whole home life thing I'm yeah, that's. ZIPRECRUITER been around! Banks, everywhere and whatever that's cool and he's like. No, you need to have a good home life to win. No, you don't. No, you don't. You're fine either way I feel like it helps though I think it helps if you're happy. Happy Banging Tinder chicks. You'll do well if you're happy in a relationship. You'll do what you have to be happy to do. Well in anything in life, but it doesn't mean you need a chick, so I just figured it. Just kind of like keeps you in line keep. Yeah. Other guys know. anyways, it doesn't work right. He's chick was here early and left I. Don't know what happened there. He didn't talk about it though. Okay so. Maybe we'll do that. Maybe we'll set that up. Let's do. Dr Kiefer and She. Think I think so yeah I mean we talk every day talking. I don't mean for Minter tainted? Entertainment for everybody. Will it help the kids out? It might help. Help them one way or the other. Check it any worse travel. Say Yeah, no doubt so. Hey, guys! Thanks for coming to this was fun. Thank you Ivan, life podcast I'm like the OJ of this air. Yeah, yeah, we, we need. I think that's what we need. We need him an I to mediate on our show, because this is like our show, and it just turns into you guys telling each other. It's shut up over and over, and you're a love that I know, but it got to be a little much by the end where you just. Talk you Alex and like okay all right great great radio like it did get. Contentious Times, but we we can do it again. We're all here. We got time all here. It's not a problem to do it. I love it here. Do you like it here? I Miss My Basset Hound. Who can the dog here? Would you do I can live here? Yeah Yeah I'm not really into the mormonism thing, but yeah I'm down met one Mormon since I think you have I, think they're everywhere I. Don't think he just see one and. They're all doing it right or most of them are doing it so You're going to borrow my intense bike here. Do, I need a deposit. On this. Breaks. Yes was just going GONNA go ahead. Of My Taser. Do you think maybe I mean? We know how. Likes out here I've never tried one. Yeah, Oh, you should I know. And you love it. They're fun so. While, good, luck boys. On Sunday, during the appreciate it. Thanks to Mir, thanks to maxis. Thank you a firepower and especially. Thank you to tech and thank you FSR. Racing, great guys, and we really appreciate it. This has been the privateer island life podcast. Everybody will see you next week.

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THE SPY WHO SIGNED ME

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THE SPY WHO SIGNED ME

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The next step was obvious turn pro but the WNBA came with some built in limitations namely a hard salary cap so burdened Rossy did what a vast majority of WNBA players do. They signed up to play a second season overseas. It was a decision that would bring the two women opportunities and complications that exceeded anything they could have imagined a quick warning. This episode contains mature language and graphic descriptions of violence. And now here's producer Keith. Romer with the spy. Who signed me? Diana's it's bigger Connecticut's quite simply as the most talented offensive team. Perhaps in the history of women's College basketball so the difference between you and everybody else is we have Diana even in college. There was always something that separated sue bird and an atrocity from everybody else. The Bird lazing quickness perfect decision making selfless g needs to make shots step up Rossy with their swagger and ability to score from anywhere in an hour to Rossi from the outside holy smokes. These were players. Here's the WNBA GM's built their dreams around with the first pick of the two thousand into WNBA draft. The Seattle Storm Select Suber from the we select elect Diana to Rossi from the University of Connecticut. My name is sue bird. I guess I'm the Second part of that TAG team. My Name's Dinosaur Ashi at uconn Suan Diana had gotten used to being treated like what they were two of the top athletes elites in the world. We chartered everywhere stated the Best Hotels. We're the best gear the latest gear. And then all right my next next stop is the pro game. It's only gonNA get better right. It's only gonNA get better soon. I think she's trying to say it doesn't get better after the initial excitement around the WNBA's first few seasons in the late nineties attendance had started a long steady decline. The basketball was still great but the financial pressure had a way of translating directly to the players. Will you know we don't make money right like there was always that vibe to it. Forty five thousand dollars. That's what I'M GONNA make. That's what I'm GonNa make after you know. Four years of playing at the most prestigious Vassar College. And that's what I'm GONNA make. I mean the Janitors GonNa make more than me. The Guy who takes the floor out and puts it back. He's going to be making more than me so soon. Diana looked for other ways to capitalize on their talents. How it's an agent came to me and was just like hey would you be interested in this club and Moscow Alma God Russia like what but the offer? The Russian team was making was for a lot hot more than what sue made playing in the states. I think I was in like the two hundred thousand range so yeah I mean for four or five months. Do the math. You know it's it's it's obviously worth it. My coach Zero English. I had a translator next to me the entire time. I think I get a lot of times. I was in my apartment like my with nothing to do you know like on my aol instant Messenger. Like hey you guys up. After one season they're sue was done done with Russia. I was like I've had enough. This is it but then her team in Moscow. Dynamo made an offer not just to sue but to Diana as well we'll come back to Russia and next year they could play together. You know there are some security knowing all right. We'll be there. How hard can it be? It's basketball like okay. There's no I just spent four years in Connecticut. It's no no big deal. It was the worst experience ever of playing basketball in my life. Life Dynamos facilities. Were old the style of play. Didn't make sense to her. She didn't speak Russian plus. I'd never had a thing with a coach for for as much as coach and I used to. I the coach we had there. I hated in the Guy Equally. Hated me so it was a a disaster is he was anus so well saying I knew it was aim as it was anus and we remaining but we call the main every single day. You are at durable player for all the top of the key. Somehow we He's a talion but he's not. He's actually a Latvian. When the season ended? I said I will never in my life play here ever again Dan but there was one very wealthy businessman in Russia who was determined to change her. Your Mind Job Taivon's cal which is a CO owner of the spar tech women's basketball. Take whispers of this guy shop tie and Spartak born in Luthuli the any nine hundred forty seven common rich immigrated to Israel. You really didn't know what was true. Or what was you know false before being unmasked as a spy why in one thousand nine hundred eighty seven and sent to jail and we heard stories right with five years later. The multinational citizen and Speaker of nine languages was released and arrived in Moscow. It was just word of mouth. Everything was word of mouth next thing we know they're like Chateau would like to meet with you and I'm like Whoa like who is this guy. I don't know what to expect. I've never met this guy before he wants to bring us in and have a sit down. WHAT POW al.? We get in a random car. We drive into the centre Moscow Osco where his office is. Just you know Communist building. Big Ole ugly thing from the outside walking these big old marble marble slab stairs and then the open these double doors and the minute you walk into his office. You're just like this is just a weird place already. Like we're we're talking like. Yeah like walruses penises. They're all kinds of Torres everywhere so we sat down there. He is is the man the legend show tie you short. He was probably. I think he's shorter than I am. He was an interesting looking character. And he's got like ah like a Humpty dumpty type body type. She was dressed to impress classic suit. Always a white shirt you. Everything he had was a lot of money. This man looked looked like put together. And then there was the hair I mean it's hard to see past the I'm not gonNA lie. It's incredible this mother that he had had. The mullet is currently just amazing. How he got away with this mullet? I think the first thing I said is I won't play in this country. It he was like you haven't seen Russia. You know Russia the way I can show you Russia before long shop tight. Turn the conversation to just. How a deal for sue and Diana? That might work in Europe. Teams can only have two American players on the court at one time but shop tie had found a way around that rule get his American players European passports kind of he was the pioneer with the passports and Apparently he gave a player in American player. A pass for of a person person who was dead. Someone's walking around with a dead person's passport. Because Diana's Dad was Italian. She already had an Italian passport or so D. D. had the Italian password. I remember for me. The first thing he said was I heard you're Jewish and I was like well like my dad's Jewish you know he was like okay. I think I can get you in Israeli passport. He picks up the phone. dials some numbers. It's on speakerphone. Him and some guy or speaking Hebrew. I have no idea like we have no idea what they're saying and he's like okay gets off the phone. He's like okay. We're going to make this work. So we're we're chewing is really password. Dior Italian and you both will play for my club next year shop. Tie Road out on a piece of paper. The rough outlines of a deal. It was literally a very very general contract of Diana to Rossi. What are the contracts? Say I don't know and sue and Diana signed on. Okay Geico yet. We're good so now we're going to do is you're going to get in the car and tell me what kind of food you like. Depending on Bonuses Soon Diana were set to make between four hundred thousand thousand and a million dollars each to play half the year for Common Ovitz's team Spartak Moscow region. And then I remember sitting at this dinner like this is GonNa be fun like then I was like when I can put up with Russia. You Shop tycom Novic had been in love with basketball for a long time. You know when he was boy in Lithuanian. It's sports number one in the late nineties. shontae partnered partnered with former Soviet star. VITAS SA- Bonus to finance a Lithuanian team. That went on to win. Its first ever European Championship. He and then all the tactics all the techniques. He understand everything then in the year. Two Thousand and two. He was brought in as a kind of consultant fixer general. Oh Manager for the women's Club in the Russian mining city of Yekaterinburg Ana Arkhipova was the point guard. I'm both the Russian national team and the club in Yekaterinburg Burke when he comes our team lake manager and doesn't lose one game in everything and it's only because does he comes. It's for sure coming over wasn't much of a player himself. was he any good but he tried still. He was willing to do whatever it took to impress his new point guard. When it was and of Susan he proposed me to be his life for me? It was very strange common. which was twenty five five years older than ANA and she lived with her boyfriend of ten years? But Calman over. which was a charmer? I feel myself like princess like everything for me everything. The couple moved back to Moscow and after they married in two thousand five they both swore off basketball. ANA would retire and shop tie would go back to just being a businessman but in lands he decides the be manager of Spartak Moscow region so he changed his mind in shop ties first year with Spartak the team qualified for Europe's highest league the Euro League and that is when he went shopping for his new pair of stars. Bird into Rossy at first. Soon Diana's motivations for coming back to Russia. Were very simple. The only reason you go. There's for money but the only reason you leave her country to go to a different country to play basketball but sue. Diana quickly discovered that the perks of playing for shop tie didn't end at their salaries. Everything literally was first class. Were staying in the best hotels we go to Paris. We're in like the bomb hotel embarrassed crisp. He goes okay. You you live here in this mini mansion. I mean it's huge pool Asana and we were like we'll take it. This was the beauty. Basha attack the mini. You said anything was literally taking care of the next day. I don't know we were somewhere else. And there's like Knox of the doors. Everyone got like this huge creative strawberries. Aries that like we're fresh strawberries from like. I don't even know where Bainian countryside and we're just like all right shop tie spoiled stars. He basically it was just like. Here's my credit card. Just go shopping. Get whatever you want. And we were like very tentative while I was so you know automatically Maggie like okay. Can we spend five hundred dollars. Can we spend a thousand and you know you get nervous. You have this adrenaline. Where you're like? Should I get this Louis Vuitton bag. That's three thousand dollars in which I would never buy. Yes I will get two of them for me and Wolf just gets Rossi we get in the car and I mean we have. What like twenty eighty five thirty bags? filigree robbed a bank when Spartak one. It was easy to find shop tie after games bragging to journalists about his st attack. We love the LAKOTA. We've low and journalists. Jeff Taylor says once bird into Rossi arrived Spartak attack one a lot. It was almost like an immediate start of of domination. We had had su who is in her prime best in the world. Word that jump shooting has been on the money for Spartak. Doc on top of that tie also recruited one of the WNBA's greatest scored Tina Thompson. And why is it up and house. Okay you're talking about three of the greatest players players of all time and then we had probably the top three Russian national team. They just cut through the competition again and again super always come up with a big plays for this team. We were really really good. In two thousand seven that first year with two Rossi and bird and Thomson Spartak won the European with verdicts Rossi Rossi. They were a beautiful. They really had no rivals. Thirty for thirty. 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One place three hundred cities where people someone in one of the other two hundred ninety nine cities three hundred cities where people sitting shing in the car or in the shower or both poorly. Delta isn't flying to three hundred cities merely to bring us together to show us. We're not that far apart in the first place place Delta he climbing after playing for Spartak it was hard for Suan Diana to adjust to playing for their American teams again. You get back the WNBA. And you're just like lugging all your shootaround getting on a terrible American airline flights at four four forty five. Am staying in hotels that were not first class. You know the air conditioner has really loud but all it does is really just make the the room like Nick sweatier. Kate Fagan is a journalist and the former college basketball player herself. She saw firsthand. How all these little annoyances could could start to add up you're taking layovers? You're flying coach. You're staying in hotels that don't have simply room service that you can maybe get a bite to eat it at a late hour. It just makes the grind of the season and the wear and tear on their bodies all the more Dongting. The League had rules that prohibited hinted charter flights and required younger players to double up in hotel rooms on the road. The amount of emotional toll that has been placed on WNBA NBA players and the amount of pressure to just accept. Whatever comes to them? Because how can you ask for more. Shouldn't you just be lucky to play women's basketball. I mean these are pressures that have been on them for two decades now to Fagin. That reality was what made the stories she was hearing about shop tie so fascinating. It's one thing to go overseas and get paid eighty thousand dollars. That's amazing and awesome. But then when I was like no like we're talkin and close to a million right. My reaction was holy Shit because they're making life changing money and I never thought that I would see that women's basketball soon Diana's live split neatly into two in the summer they would play in the WNBA and earn the maximum salary around one hundred thousand dollars. Once that season ended they would get ready for Russia. I was just like this is what I do. WFAN'S I get my seven days as a hang on my family pack. Oh my Shiva get on that. Aeroflot's straight the Moscow. I'm good waiting for them in Moscow. Shaab tie a patron and unlike any they could have found in the US. We're kind of an offer him he has this mystique to him and he kind of he feeds it any he presents. It shop tight would tell them stories about working with Michael Jackson and Liza Minnelli about how he was best friends with Giorgio Armani honey shop tie was connected at the end of one season Spartak played the Russian league final on the road in Karen Berg e cap the players called it. There's like this one flight that leaves e cat to go to Moscow. Let's let's say it's at eight o'clock and there was no way we're GONNA make it. The game was at seven and the next thing you know. It's like the morning of the game. Maybe raffish it around the lake guys. You're going to be able to make your flights tomorrow morning. And we're like what how shocked I called Aeroflot's he called the airline and you had the flight moved back two hours. A commercial official flight get a commercial flight. Move back two hours you call on Delta and be like you know what we need this Flight to Laguardia to leave at eleven tonight. Okay thanks. We'll talk to you later. We're like I mean okay. Great like what as for. Why Shop Taika just call up Aeroflot's and to have them change their schedule? Nobody knows that's the thing. Nobody knows sometimes shocked. I would give them glimpses into who he was and who he had been one day I was at his office and literally like ours. He'll just tell me these stories. These like crazy epic like of his travels. There was his time in Israel in the seventies and eighties eighties. It gets very close to golden here. Who will was the prime minister back? Then in Israel he has close ties with Menachem. Begging who is the head of the opposition journalist journalist only Austin Heim says that was how shop tie worked. He knew how to get very close to hiring to fishers and he knew how to get very close to his taxi driver. He he just has this very unique and very helpful ability to get connected to people and all sorts of people. He was in Africa for something while they're shop. Shabtai worked his magic in two countries. I he won a series of construction contracts in the South African puppet state of both ought swan then he was granted control of the diamond trade in Sierra Leone. When he was back in Israel Shabtai turned his attention to a very different business reporting on his powerful Israeli really connections to Moscow? He was the Russian spy for the KGB in nineteen eighty seven cowman. Ovatch was arrested in London. Didn't passing millions of dollars worth of false checks. He was allowed to return to Israel to await trial but while he was there he was charged by an Israeli ely court with spying within months. He was convicted of espionage and sentenced to nine years in prison. It wasn't they on the headlines of every newspaper newspaper was a great surprise to find out First of all that there is a Russian spy in Israel and secondly this Russian spy is the famous Shabtai Coleman of which I mean life is about second chances right chef. I WANNA be more than a convicted spy. He wanted to be more than whatever whatever else people suggest he is. He wanted to be more than that. which maybe is where basketball came in? Whatever else people might have said about shop tie? No one ever doubted his love for the game. least of all the point guard he had made his wife Ana Arkhipova. He was a sick sick bog basketball. He was crazy bond basketball in the big games he could be an animal he would be all up in the refs phase. You know we had coaches. But he's he's the one who made the suburbs like if you didn't like what was going on back in the game and you're like you're not co everything was very dramatic a foul call. You know his hands in the air. The mullet will be Fine Ryan dental time I sings Hugh had heart attack knowns dunes again. He wanted this team to be the Barcelona of women's basketball. The Chelsea women's basketball and I think sue and I were just to those little pieces at. He was trying to integrate into that. In two thousand eight shop tight added a third piece the previous this year's WNBA MVP. Lauren Jackson with Jackson and bird and two Rossi Spartak wasn't just the best pro team in Europe. It was the best of all time attack Centigrade in two thousand eight one. The Euro League for a second and third time in two thousand Matt Bosco region fans and the team. Let's all all smiles right now. is they go to the changing rooms. They beaten there Davis assist season by nine points. Why how did you hire Lauren Jackson? I love as a player as a plan is a plan as a daughter called Papa. He took care of us like we were his daughters. Just because my mom would call him papa too. That'd be on the phone she goes. How's Papa doing? You just always knew he was. Is there the way a father would be. I don't know how many times would call tomorrow you. Will you come to dinner with me. And the family of the boys in in China he came at it from a sense. It's a family. You know. He really created and cultivated this whole environment where you felt connected and I don't have that with a lot of people but with him. I had it from the day I met him loved his family. Loved women's basketball loved us. Viewed us as performers and entertainers and wanted to share our talents with the world. And then also he was you know as I say providing but he was allowing us to like have a career and make tons of money doing it and and with that you're able to take that home and have a life however well Shabtai might have treated sue Diana somewhere in the back of their minds was always some uncertainty about just who he really was. You know every time we'd go to opposing city to to play a team there's always a black SUV with a guy holding suitcase waiting forum. I mean every single time and he said he went to my name is carol billion enough breath reporting for many years covering Russian organized crime corruption. you know all the wonderful things on Russia. I don't know what's in 's okay. Who knows it might be shrimp in? I don't know there might be two million dollars in euros. I don't know what the story is. Murky okay thanks are very very unclear about his life. We always saw one side of Shaddai. We know there's another side. It was clear that he's well feet. Nobody really knew where he's getting his money from this guy that were many hats and we knew he wore a lot of hats. Some of those hats had been wearing since he returned to Russia in nineteen ninety-three basically if you businessman Russia and successful businessman in the ninety S. You you have to break the law in every single day in every single move over your life. Does it make you criminal. I don't know that how entire country leafed leafed four More than decayed. When Calvin Novic had gotten started in Moscow the country was in chaos? The Soviet Union had fallen at the the end of ninety one Russian capitalism was just two years old and so we're all the new laws that were supposed to contain that capitalism in Moscow. He was immediately involved in some business. Ventures with the US have cubs on whom many called Russian version of Frank Sinatra not on the because of his this music thing but also because of his many connections with they're gonNA is crime and Russian mafia in a country where the police and the courts didn't always do a whole lot to protect tech property rights. Common Ovid made a killing in construction and real estate. You don't have to be criminal to be successful businessman than rushing the nineties. But you have to who have France in Who are criminals? As long as you're not killing people on the streets of blowing up their cars You view not really criminal in Russian sense in the ninety s and as shopped. I told one journalist. Yes he had friends who are in the Mafia. He took took pictures with them. But that didn't mean he was in the mob himself on November. Second two thousand nine five. PM We at practice that morning and it was general MacArthur's birthday so as a beyond say concert tonight so the day before. We're like chat hiking we get to the concert you know. And he's like no problem Tom. He sets it all up. Sue wasn't in Russia yet. She was rehabbing in the states. And planning to come over in January Diana and the rest of the Spartak players finished I practice then met up at shop ties office in Moscow and there was just as weird feeling like you know when there's when something's wrong the doors you're to shop ties office which were always open reclosed that day and like just waiting waiting almost like this is strange. You know because even if he wasn't there we'd always go his office. After A. While one of the Russian players went over to the drivers to try to figure out what was going on and she comes over and she goes shoutout has just been killed. He was driving to the Kremlin and he knows at a stop sign and someone just came up and a million rounds of ammunition they put in there but they said he and then on on site really and we're just I mean it was just silent. No one said a word you feel like we were just sitting there for days. No one knew what the say. No one knew what to ask there was just no those. Those no questions is there was no sense of like. What do we do next just like this just really happened eventually? Diana's driver took her home. We get in the car and we're driving back to back to the house and we literally drive by the scene and they're you know this was an hour and a half two words. Maybe everything was still intact the Mercedes that was there for you know for our whole careers that we drove in a million time. We were in that car. I can't tell you how many times we're in that car. Gunshots have urges complete shot up police ambulance and there he was hunched over debt. You know were his. His belly is on kind of where the foot rest is. When I saw that I was I was in shock? I've never seen someone dead. No one close to me has ever died. I mean that was the first time where it was like. A person's dead Diana called sue back in the states and told her what had happened. She just like he's dead and I'm like who and she's like they killed him. They killed shop. I did a very poor thing in that later that night. Maybe the next day I googled. There's some pretty pretty I don't know there's some knock great pictures on their their pictures of him. You know his his white shirts he always wore white shirts. It just all blood Him laying on the ground him slumped in the car. You know it showed the car window where t