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SkyBridge Capital Founder Anthony Scaramucci joins 'Influencers with Andy Serwer'

Yahoo Finance Presents

32:26 min | 4 months ago

SkyBridge Capital Founder Anthony Scaramucci joins 'Influencers with Andy Serwer'

"With our economy healthcare and way of life in turmoil we turn to the optimist to look through the fog and remind us the future is still bright Anthony Scaramucci also known as the Mooch often considers himself the embodiment of the American dream from his humble beginnings on Long Island to making a name for himself on Wall Street SCARAMUCCI larger than life persona eventually brought him to the steps of the White House where he served as communications director under president trump now. He joins me on this episode of influencers to discuss America's new economic crisis and rate Washington's approach to the corona virus endemic. Hello everyone I'm Andy. Serwer welcome to implementers and welcome to our guest. Anthony SCARAMUCCI founder and managing partner of Skybridge Anthony. Nice to see you. It's good to be here. Thanks for including me on your show. So there's so much to talk about Anthony. Let's start off with the corona virus and the economy Things are not looking good right now. How do you think the situation is? How bad do you think it's going to get well? I just applied context. This is my ninth crisis dating back to one thousand nine hundred eighty seven. So I've been doing this for thirty three or so years This is an interesting one. Because you've got three things going on at the same time that haven't happened before you have an oil shock going on with a healthcare scare and a financial panic and so all the warning lights are on on the economy but juxtaposed to that you have a global coordinated monetary policy and you have about ten trillion dollars of stimulus. That's GonNa hit the American economy. And what I would say to people out. There is think of this as a national disaster. It's a fifty state hurricane But the good news is instead of having your house demolished or the water infrastructure the electrical grid. You're going to be able to return to work. After the work stoppage our banks are in very good shape. The government will be stimulating the economy and so I think we just have to look past the human tragedy. That's going on and I don't mean to make light of that human tragedy. I think it's absolutely horrific. But if you're just asking me about the economy if we can see through three six or nine months I actually think we'll be in pretty good shape better than people think and just quickly on statistics. You've shut down the US economy for three months. But we're operating at about thirty five percent operating capacity that's our healthcare system. Yahoo Finance our UPS system Amazon etc. So it's about a three point seven trillion dollar hit to the economy. And so they're hitting that in my opinion with overwhelming force six point two trillion dollar stimulus from the government plus a four trillion dollar buying program. That both Jerome Powell and Steven. Mnuchin said they would leave on capped so for those reasons. Yes we're in a bad news cycle right now and it's human nature to get very focused on the bad news cycle and panic. But that's never been the right decision in the thirty three years that I've been doing this. The time to be buying and thinking about opportunity is right now. Joan you thinking anthony that our lives will be to an extent permanently changed that some businesses will go out of business that some companies will disappear. They'll never come back. Look at the restaurant. Business for instance services small businesses. Aren't they going to get crushed here? Well listen I do think that a lot of businesses won't come back but I think that I always been blown away by American resiliency and the Small Business Entrepreneur and so I have a friend of mine that was in the ski equipment business. It hasn't been great skiing in our area because of global warming and he switched to summer furniture product. So so the point point being is yes. I can see on the margin businesses closing some restaurants closing up against that with all this stimulus going into the system they'll be new startups and they'll be green shoots in the economy of different activity. I think one place I would be. Sorta worried about is the commercial real estate market in the urban centers. Because you you put a population at home for three or four months. They start to realize through technology data. They can probably get a lot done with less space in their offices. So yes. There's no question. There will be elements of the economy that change. But I can tell you one thing. I believe that will not change is human nature and so people often say after they read about an airline crash. They're not going on the plane. And then they booked two tickets for the theirselves and their wife to go to Hawaii. So in my opinion it may be a slow start but people will be back at Baseball Games. They will be back in restaurants. Certainly if the prospects of getting a viral vaccine are available. And I don't know if that's six eighteen or twenty four months away because I'm not a scientist but but when that happens I think that will also put a you know. It'll be a boost of optimism for the economy and and one last point I definitely think will happen The United States will form a another cabinet agency. Think about what we did. After nine eleven we had the Department of Homeland Security. I predict will be a cabinet level position. Maybe it'll be called the department of pandemic defense or something like that to make sure that we are always well stocked with things that you would need a pandemic which unfortunately you know the world ourselves specifically been caught off guard. I WANNA get back to that Washington response in a minute. But first I wanNA talk about the markets equities. It sounds like you would suggest you know getting into the market at this point are strategically buying looking by and maybe others have as well. I mean. Are You surprised? The market hasn't really gone down as much as some people. Thought it might. Well listen I mean you hit a thirty six percent low between the high and low on the S. and P. and the Dow and on the Monday that that happened if you look at the vix which is a very good indicator of flourishing activity in volatility the vix went from eighty seven to forty four in about two and a half hours and last time. I seen that happen was march. Ninth Two Thousand Nine. So it seemed like a full washout out there where there was tremendous de leveraging margin calls being met and we colder stock panicking out of stocks up against the government announced to unbelievable stimulus programs and I just want to draw context people back to two thousand eight. The government had a nine hundred or so billion dollar stimulus program and they spent about two trillion dollars over eighteen months in terms of asset purchases and quantitative easing this time. You're talking about six point two trillion and you're talking about four trillion dollars when the Fed with the pledge that the Fed will go three times as fast so you sort of have twice the money from the Fed and they want to execute that in one third of the time Those things give me great comfort. I don't see a scenario where human nature completely changes and we're in a global depression. I see more of a scenario where we're obviously going to go into a recession. It'll be steep. The numbers will look very bad but it will be impermanent because it's a result of everybody having to be home in those restaurants that were referencing to be closed you know. The president made a statement a few days ago talking about potentially creating business launched deductability again. That would be a big boost to rush right in my opinion so so there's a lot of things that get done from tax and social policy that can help the economy but remember. We're going to be leaving our homes with the electoral in place. The banks in pristine shape as it relates to their balance sheets and again. I'm not trying to be overly optimistic. I just get paid as a professional investor to site to try to see through the current crisis and Andy. You and I are old enough to know that we've been through a few of these rodeos and I. It's reminiscent of me if November of two thousand eight when Warren Buffett wrote that very famous essay in the New York Times on the OP. Ed Page where he said now is the time to buy stocks and he explained why he felt that way. And I sort of feel like. We're back there again right now course and just do a little bit more on this. The market an timing. Which is maybe a bad word. But he wrote that in October and then of course we continue to go down in March. It's still a good time to buy if you bought knocked over because you still would have made a lot of money over the next five years of course but but just not to put two point on it. But you're saying maybe the low in March was it. I mean I'm not GonNa hold you if we go down another ten percent but you don't think there's multiple more shoes to drop with the market. I think that there be a lot of volatility and I think there'll be a lot of uncertainty of but if you remember from the firefighters book which was written a compilation of of writings from member Nike and Tim Geithner. And Hank Paulson one of the things. They said in that book that they wish they had done was gone faster. And they wish they had Hit it with harder tools or larger macro economic tools. And I know that Secretary Paulson is in close touch with Steven mnuchin. And I think a lot of the plans that are being implemented right now It's unbelievable the say this. The two thousand a crisis seemed to be a dress rehearsal for the two thousand twenty pandemic and so for me when I look at the magnitude of force it's going to be applied against this from a macroeconomic perspective. I'm going to be able to time. The market sure could drop another five or ten percent absolutely but as you just said about the Warren Buffett Essay. Six twelve twenty four months from now. Will we be in way better shape than people would have expected at this time? I believe that that will be the case. And so for me And I tell investors you have to think long term particularly stock mortgage you own that business. You're taking the over a market cycle. Don't get juked out of your stocks right here. It's never been a good idea to sell in a panic. You know. I guess we can take some comfort from this point. You You keep making Anthony. Which is the magnitude of the response from Washington so I wanted to give it a rating. I mean and you haven't brought up someone that you'd like to talk about from time to time. Which is president trump? And so let me ask you about the overall response from Washington which it sounds like. You're giving them a thumbs up but then what about the president's response to this crisis as well while the other is? I haven't talked about the president. You have asked me any questions about them but but listen I mean the truth of the matter is I am very happy with where we are now. It's been eleven days since he's made a one hundred and eighty degree turn And so thank God. He did that because it will save lives. Had we moved as quickly as South Korea did remember. The first cases showed up in South Korea on the same day as the United States We were advised to move in their direction. The pandemic experts epidemiologists here in the United States advised the White House to do that. The President may decision not to do that. I don't want to be the Monday morning quarterback but clearly had we moved in February we would have lower death numbers and the great irony is. He's the business president it would help out the economy economy measurably if we had moved in February. But we're here now and I think the response over the last eleven days has been way better but I can take you back to last week where we were talking about opening the economy on April twelfth. There was nobody on Wall Street. That has gotten up to speed on the mathematics of this situation. That thought that that was real information you know. The president talks about fake news all the time but a lot of the things that he's saying coming out of his mouth or sort of fake science. So what I'm hoping is we can get what's coming from the White House to be more congruent with the reality of the situation and so we're getting there that's way better And but we are behind and as a result of which this is a tragedy. There's going to be a lot of people Sick from this disease Many people many more than was necessary. Frankly we're going to die from the disease and hopefully this will be a good foundation for what we need to do in the future to prevent this sort of calamity or at least reduce the effects of of this sort of event to overall what kind of rating would you give The president on this crisis the scale from one to ten anthony. Well I would say I would say from January first to March eleventh. I would give him a one on a scale of one to ten and from March eleven to today. He's probably getting a seven but let's focus on from March eleven to today because truth of the matter is Andy. We were all. Americans weren't a huge healthcare crisis. It's literally a war with an invisible molecule or molecules and. We need the president to do well so I don't WanNa be Monday morning quarterback analyzing everything that went wrong and so forth. But we're here now and I liked directionally where we're going right now. Anthony. What's your take on all these medical shortages that were reading about That's that's disconcerting. Isn't it well? I think I think there are two major tragedies that we're learning about the United States from this crisis tragedy number one. Our healthcare system was not ready for a pandemic. We're under bedded in the United States. I mean you probably knew these cystic Andy. And maybe your viewers new these statistics. I did not know them. We have one point one million hospital beds for a population of three hundred and thirty million people if you add the undocumented workers and immigrants it's probably three hundred and forty million people live in the United States and we have one point one million hospital beds three hundred thousand of which are ICU. Beds and so unfortunately we're under bedded in her hospitals were under supplied in hospitals. The ventilator situation is obviously a great tragedy because when we start to get the peak numbers the truth of the matter is there's probably going to be one ventilator available for every fifty people that need a ventilator and so that's that's going to be a great human tragedy so so that's that's one set of observations the second set of observations which I think is equally bad. Is that eighty five. To ninety percent of the American people are living paycheck to paycheck and so when they get a work stoppage or they get this sort of abrupt. Don't have a lot of savings to make up the difference in so this helicopter drop of money. I think it's a good thing but I recommended several weeks ago. Wrote an essay about this. That you sorted needed Three thousand dollars per adult and fifteen hundred dollars per child. If you wanted to take would call him pal used to say about the military if you want to beat this thing. The Powell doctrine dictated if you needed sixty thousand troops. Well double the amount of the troops. I think he's sort of need that in a stimulus and a main street sort of stimulus for lower and middle income people so so that's another set of tragic outcomes. I'm hoping in the aftermath of this. We get a very good policy response where people start focusing on how we can close the income gap. What things we can do from a social tax policy cultural changes To to close that gap but I think this is going to be very painful. I mean it's painful for all of us of course but for certain people who don't have a lot of savings you know. My heart goes out to those people. Anthony What Can C. E. O.'S OF BIG PUBLIC COMPANIES? Do here on the one hand. They've gotta look to their investors and Wall Street shareholders on the other hand you know they probably WanNa keep their employees employed and also support the economy by making donations. And doing the right thing. How is this a test of leadership that way? Well I certainly think is a test of leadership and I I you know we been around for fifteen years. Now as Skybridge I decided to reduce payroll a little bit in context of what's going on in the markets but made a pledge of the employees that we're we're keeping every single person at work we're going to be working through the pandemic remotely. You know. God forbid if we ever have to have layoffs. We would do that well after this thing is gone. I mean just. Imagine the nightmare of you working at a company. You spent a Lotta time and energy at that company. And they're calling you in the middle of a pandemic where you can't leave your house and you're being laid off so so to me. I think good culture and good values are going to be represented. Right here I tell people think about where you are going to be in a year or two when this is over. And how would you like to be defined in the in the crisis itself and so? I'm hoping that business leaders large and small to the extent that they're able to do this are positioning themselves and their employees for the comeback. You know I own a restaurant. We've been there together. The Hunt and fish club. We close that restaurant in March of First Week of March which I thought was a good defensive maneuver for our employees because many of them left the city without any symptoms. Thank God and we're now looking at the government stimulus program were were able to get some money from the stimulus program. Bring all those workers back now. Obviously we have to wait for the New York City Department of Health to give us the all clear. Sign to open the restaurant. But but I love the fact that my operating partner Nelson Braff took the step we were about to get a distribution of profits at the owners level and we took the step of leaving that in the company's checking account and to pay the employees during the crisis and I think if people at a CEO level way bigger obviously than that small restaurant if they think like that. It's it's going to be good for their culture. It's actually going to be long. Term Good for their customers and people will reflect fondly about them a year so now in terms of what they were doing in the breach. What were they doing in the war? Were they acting valorous LII and with high integrity and I hope I hope people will think like that. What about the richest Americans to similar kind of question the people on the Forbes four hundred should they be doing stuff here I mean? They accumulated vast amounts of wealth over the past fifteen years in particular. How can itch in? Well listen you know I mean my hat's off the Bill Gates He gave a Ted talk in twenty fifteen describing the problem. I think he's out there with the foundation. Doing a lot of different things and helping people try to come up with the right vaccine and so forth But Andy You you know people. I know people. We'd been around the block long enough to know that Riches is a force multiplier your personality so if you're a good person and a generous person when you get money you're able to magnify that but if you're a miserable person or a miser or a scrooge like character when you get money well guess what that also magnifies and so. They'll be people on the fours. Four hundred that will act in a way. That's charitable and gracious period. Like this and then there will be the very poor that will act charitable ungracious and so We both know that there will be people that we would say. Jeez I wish that that person would think more broadly about mankind and be generous in situation like this but we know that's not gonNA happen. I learned long ago not to judge human. Frailty too harshly I. I try to put things into perspective even my own human frailty and the mistakes that I've made in life but I think this is a big big seismic global event and I hope it will cause people to take a pause Take inventory of what's really important to them and recognize that it's in our best interest and again through market forces to close the wealth gap and to find ways to fortify people who may be blue collar workers or lower middle income people Give them opportunity and to make them feel aspirational about their lives. But also their children's lives you know you and I had many conversations off camera where I grew up in a working class family. My Dad was a crane operator for forty two years. It was an hourly worker but he had a very good wage and so we lived in the middle class. I would never disrespect. My Dad's work ethic by telling anybody. I grew up poor but we had this aspiration. I can remember sitting at dinner table as a kid. He was a pretty strict guy and he was like do your homework. You're going to do this and this you're going to go to college and then one day you're going to get a piece of the American dream those people today because of where the wages are the real incomes are down twenty to twenty five percent over thirty years those people we've moved those people from aspirational to desperation oil. And maybe this pandemic will be a wakeup call for policy makers politicians macro-economists very wealthy the fours four hundred. Will they'll examine what's going on in the society and say okay. We can do this better. We can make it better. And it won't be any less yachts or any less clothing or fine dining for any individual. But it'll be way better for the social progress of the society. But we have to legislate that somehow anthony because you could argue that the way we got to this wealth and income inequality through say deregulation Lower interest rates and those types of things so won't there have to be laws promulgated to sort of address that ultimately why. I certainly believe that I think somebody looking back on this period of time. And let's call this period of time from two thousand seven to where we are now. Somebody took a snapshot of that thirteen. Twelve fifteen year period of time. They would say that the monetary policy the the accident of the monetary policy which was very healing after the crisis probably created some of the income divide. And I'm not saying anybody did that intentionally. But when you lowered rates like that at the people that held the assets they got the inflation. You didn't get much wage growth initiative much wage activity. People did return back to work. But I think that's where the anger is you know. The great irony is the central banking coordination probably created the rise of Donald Trump or Bernie Sanders. Which were Paul pulsing out? Both candidates pulsing out the anger and the populism and the society which was probably born from the central banking coordination. Had we thought more broadly in two thousand eight into two thousand nine. Yes we're going to lower rates but we're also going to do the tough things like an infrastructure. Bill Job Training Bill a long term plan. Not a two minute plan but a ten or twenty year plan to right size the K. Through twelve public education process. We would be in a different environment today and so what I fear right now is because politicians have in general been more interested in excoriating each other on cable news or ripping into each other. What I fear right now. Is that all allow for that. Easy one step solution which is global coordinated monetary policy printing of money and and that sort of thing and. I'm hoping that they'll think way more long-term there's there's things in our country that can be fixed but the bad news for the country and bedrooms because they're not willing to say the Truth About this there ten twenty or possibly even thirty your fixes and what politician that you and I know Andy. That has a twenty year plan for anything. And so hopefully this shock and it's global shock will cause people to say why we gotta find leaders political leadership that are more focused on the long term and more focus on fortifying the the entire society then the short-term gimmicks and the sound bites that are effective on cable news or you mentioned president trump and so we have to talk about the election which is coming up fast and of course you have all this history with the president. You said he was not gonNA win reelection now. Maybe you think he has a better chance and then we've got it. Looks like Biden firmly in the mix. So where do you come out on all this right now? Anthony so when when you when I spoke in Davos Switzerland the consensus among the elite. There was that he was GonNa win a resounding election. And what I said to you I had gone to Davos. For fifteen years. And more. Or less every time the elites coagulated around. One idea was resoundingly wrong. They said limitless growth in two thousand seven we went. We went over the cliff in two thousand nine. They said the world was going to go into a global depression and it was the rise of a ten year extraordinary bull market and so in sixteen. They said Secretary Clinton would be the president. Donald Trump would not win the Republican nomination. So the consensus was that he's going to win. I still think he's going to lose. But I think the odds of him. Winning have improved for him because this is viewed as a war is approval ratings are upright now although a lot of the red states they haven't been affected by the virus the way the coastal cities are Worthy International. Transfer points are in the United States like New York Northern California. We've got a hot spot in Detroit. We've got one down in New Orleans and the cases are growing obviously in Miami and so forth so we'll have to see what happens to his political standing and his approval ratings once the pandemic reaches its high point is obviously very very tragic. But I don't I don't think he wins number one. He's going to have a recession in an election year. There has been no modern president. That's been able to withstand a recession in the election year. And you will remember George. Herbert Walker Bush had a recession in the beginning of that year. Nine hundred ninety two. The economy had already improved in pulled out of recession and he still went on to lose the election and he was also somebody who was a great popular figure during a war. He had a ninety one percent approval rating fourteen months later. He lost the election so. I'm still reasonably confident. Donald Trump will lose this election. And it's not because I have personal animus towards him war. We're in a personal fight. It's just objective clear-eyed analysis of what's going on right now. I also think the hysteria that he creates with the tweeting and the nonsense that he says that these press briefings which are always fact checked to be incorrect are going to hurt him as well. I think people are fatiguing from that. So Andy I think this will ultimately be a referendum. As most incumbent presidential elections are on a vote for president trump or a vote against him more than anything else. It's really not the other candidates. Are we voting this guy to stay in or voting them out? I think he gets voted out on a number of different reasons. One is I think people are exhausted from all of the nonsense number two. I think that these press conferences and the litany of lies are growing tiresome for moderates and independents. I will accept the fact that he does have a firewall and conservative. Talk Radio and Conservative punditry in terms of nighttime television anchors. That are taking the full ride with him. They represent a firewall for him. But I do think the data is suggesting to me that he will not win reelection. I'll give your listeners. One data point. That would be very concerning to me. If I was on the president's campaign there were five hundred thousand additional registered Democratic voters that went to the polls during a pandemic in Super Tuesday three in Michigan and and that alarmed a lot of people. And even Michael Moore. Who's been living in Michigan? His whole life said okay. Wait a minute. The data is changing here. The fervor in passion may be on the side of the Democrats this year in twenty twenty as opposed to what it was against the Democrats in two thousand sixteen and final question. The Anthony What about your own aspirations? Your own political aspirations? Would you consider running for office in the State of New York? Well people ask me that all time. I guess because I I got accidentally involved in politics and it's sort of like being Michael Corleone and Godfather Three. You can't get yourself out of it but you know I. I had personal problems in my marriage while I was working in the White House my wife and I subsequently reconciled so I tell people look. I'm I'm running for reelection in my marriage. Okay I'm more concerned about that on my family and Andy. I don't know about your marriage but I think I'm on like a one day term in my marriage and I can't figure out if there's term limits or I'm going to get turned out or not so I'm extremely focused on that. I'm not a politician so I'm not GONNA lie. Not Tell you that I haven't looked at the idea of doing something like that. But I think aloud work left to do it. Skybridge in terms of growing that company and getting it positioned to where I think it could be so if you ask me that in five or ten years. I'm sure I have a different answer but right now. I'm just very focused on my family and trying to get my customers and clients better positioned after this pandemic all right. We will be watching Anthony SCARAMUCCI founder and managing partner of Skybridge. Thank you so much for your time. A. B. or a dagger You've been watching influencers work. We'll see next time.

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Ep 30: Anthony Scaramucci on The Deal Of The Century

Jonny Gould's Jewish State

06:05 min | 6 months ago

Ep 30: Anthony Scaramucci on The Deal Of The Century

"Hi It's Johnny of justice out of the Four Seasons Hotel Ten Trinity Square Very Upmarket Hotel in private cloud wet tonight. Members were treated to a talk in a very intimate setting given by former White House. Communications director in the trump administration. Anthony Anthony SCARAMUCCI. Now he wasn't in the job for very long was he. He said something in confidence to what he thought was a friend. And that friend doped it in and all trump sacked him. Kim says he regretted working for trump. But I'm not so sure. He's made the very best out of it and he's become pretty well known all over the world but now I feel he SCARAMUCCI Mucci two point not after the public humiliation of his dismissal. In the world wide media glare it affected every part of his life including his marriage trump capitalized on that on twitter. But he's since reconciled with his other half now he's going out to campaign for Mike Bloomberg mini Mike as he calls him and we've heard that he's being true to his political instincts as a democrat. He wants to underpin the principles and institutions of the American constitution which she says are paper thin enough to his talk. I got a chance to talk to him. One on one about the deal of the century a bid for new settlement in Israel title with the Palestinians the issue with the Palestinians he says. Is that oftens in this discourse. They don't have adequate political advocacy Kazeem. People don't care about them because they not an economic engine. Israel is an economic engine so if the PA's failed leadership doesn't come to the table able and Israel pushes for the annexation as he calls it of all territories which they regard as that which they feel they need against the people who called a won't negotiate he says is a route to hopelessness and self destruction in SCARAMUCCI is book. They need to come to the table. Take the fifty billion dollars in stock the negotiation man. He drew powered else with the American founding. Fathers Protecting the tyranny of the individual the most sacred minority in the system against the Overriding majority well. That's not a fulsome parallel. But I understand his point. SCARAMUCCI is a Roman Catholic not Jewish. But he's a self declared Zionist. He's even happy to call it Judea and Samaria not the West Bank. Have a listen to Anthony SCARAMUCCI. Thank you very much ronsard. That's a Jewish. I am Jewish as honest like Y. Ou explain why but here. It's it doesn't matter whether you and I this if you WANNA protect Israel and you want to provide for peace and security for Israel. They need an advocate at the table Palestinian. It's almost like a prime minister. Should say okay okay. You're the designated advocate for the Palestinians. Not handling it themselves. You have to go in there and try to convince these people to do things certain SORTA way they can get the rights of the need and the sovereignty. They need the self-fulfilment it. They just keep on the Palestinians on being used internationally as vehicle sandwiches such a credit but they don't have a willing leadership then not in the business. Yeah no exactly so. This deal is about a divorce. Peace Not War. Do you agree with her. Yeah but but I I think that we have to be more than think water with the bigger for it to be more transformation. Of course they're being used. You gotTA understand. The Israelis have an advocate the United States they have members of the West that are provided vitamin advocacy. If you don't create balance or some level of symmetry remember von Metternich. Said about peace in peace when you need balance in peace you need. A structured forces were allies of committed to suppressing the Internet. And if you're that on balance you're going to create a period of hopelessness that will be. They have hopelessness already. Understand that you started a next Xingdong territories. Okay Listen We gave slack mckim from. I don't call it the West Bank. I call it today in Somalia area. I'm from that camp understand that but I'm telling you you want to figure out a way to cohabitate with wanted the Jarrett's the plan is close. Actually John's plan but it needs to be slightly better for them. And then you can have the peace with the security right now. Israel's through the very strong stable nation very secure wi jeopardizes security by that and I. I've been destroyed. I've seen the MINORA that's made out of a case of Hamas Ian's but I'm telling you you've gotta come up with something. There equalised slightly equalize awesome. which many of the people in Israel say? No push them right into the sea blah blah blah. He can't do that never works. It's never worked on with us. Irregular tomorrow I will was colonized. And you'll know why now if you're enjoying Jonny Gould Jewish state please. He's lever reaching or review at Apple. PODCASTS or indeed wherever you download the podcast because that enables more people to hear about the show tell your friends about it send them the link via won't stop or email. It's really building this project. Guests are getting bigger and better all the time and my enthusiasm needs to be matched by yours. I'm very grateful for your support support. So thank you very much indeed listening to this and more exciting episodes to come. I'm telling you yeah.

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Anthony Scaramucci 7-21-19

CATS Roundtable

08:10 min | 1 year ago

Anthony Scaramucci 7-21-19

"Good Morning America. This is the cats roundtable John Cats McKee's here. Politics is a rough subject in Hollywood Hollywood of course Hollywood. I think Washington has become the new Hollywood <hes> how we had with us this morning Anthony Scaramucci Demo- how are you tonight John. I'm late. I happy Sunday morning to you and your listeners and we're slow coming on your show. I'm doing great. I'm not I'm not going to be having any class or in October. Unfortunately out everything's great. There's things happening in Washington that <hes> what goes four-squad women got are the president <hes> mad at them. You Got Pelosi mad at them. You had trump <hes> cow Pelosi. She's not a racist. Then you have Pelosi says well. I'm going to support your senator <hes> a bill. That's impeach trump. Can you roll out for us on the Sunday morning. I probably can't sort it all out with number one. That's why to me. I think very bad very damaging to America <hes> in in. In ways they've been antisemitic and other ways their their policies would actually destroy the economy and put the United States back thirty to fifty years economically so so you know I can't stand the four of them but I do respect their right <hes> up as democratically elected representatives in the Congress to assist and to be here I just want to beat the pants off them in the intellectual free marketplace of ideas and so for me I think we can destroy them one by one on on the things that they're saying and they're racial biases and their anti-semitist but they do have the right to be here their citizens and that's the whole concept and idea of America as released the Speaker Pelosi. She's clearly not a racist <hes> believe it or not. She's more moderate than the rest of that crew <hes>. I think it's unfortunate that they're going in a direction of impeachment. There's absolutely no reason to do that. <hes> the president has created an economic miracle for the society and he's healthy African American an Hispanic American communities unbelievably historic low unemployment number so so for me <hes> it's more craziness I'm fix identity and division <hes> but as a Republican and somebody that believes the. The president's agenda and the ideal of America I just wanted to focus on the economic he's created and all of the great things that have happened over the last two and a half years which should be just dialed back slightly <hes> and Olympic or our strategic on twitter. He should have a sixty percent landslide victory particularly if they pick a left-wing lunatic to go up against them so I get the fact that the president wants to put the squad as the identity poster for the Democrats aircraft and he wants to get the candidate whoever is going to run again to lurch less alongside of them of let's let's let them stay in the country so that we can beat the pants off them intellectual. Well <hes> I the president he's I've been doing a lot of smart. Dings people realize this smart. They sometimes well once in a while. We feel they're not right but in the long run he's getting what his feelings are out at least four people they are destroying the Democratic Party. Why are they? Why are they allowed? How many Democrats voted on with these people on a peach but I don't? I don't know the the Democrats that voted for them but but I know that their approval ratings in their local districts are very low in A._O._C.'s case where she lives here in New York with us where you know at least she represents the you weren't. I mean she destroyed the Amazon indeed oh which was going to be fantastic the city law city but I mean you know this is a true dirk doing now <hes> on the less and so you know something that the president has done because he's very UN p._c.. Something I love about Batum is the people that are super P._C.. John <hes> they want him impeached because he doesn't piece it. You know if you read the report perfect on the president but there's no obstruction and no collusion in the mullahs report. So what are you teaching pushing them on because I don't like him on him because he's not politically correct. I don't know I think I just don't think it makes any sense so so we'll we'll see without going but like President Clinton who I remember back back in the nineties you were reasonably close to if they moved to impeach president trump. I think it's going to cause a big pop and his approval ratings in it's GonNa unbelievably energize his face and I think Speaker Pelosi knows that so she's been trying to tamp down moves the. Impeachment proceedings because now you have your ear close to the side. What what do you hear about the minority communities I mean trump is doing great for the black community? He's doing great for the Latino Community doing great the Asian Community. I mean what's going on well. I mean I would say that <hes> he's got a last. I looked at two percent approval rate with Hispanic media. That's great. I think he had six or seven percent reporting for the African American community last time if he can get it twelve percent it's game over for the Democratic Forty and you have to remember <hes> the reason why you're saying very candidly at the president's not a racist look at his actions and look what he's done for those communities but also look at the prison reform bill that he put in place and you want to pay enough to remember when he was championing alongside of Russa Parks Reverend Jesse Jackson and Reverend Al Sharpton the idea but the New York Stock Exchange should close for the Martin Luther King Junior holidays so so you know they they have to remember those things as well but again. I think people do vote with their wallets. You may have saw this. Last point came out yesterday seventy seven. percent of the Americans believe that the economy is going as well as it's ever gone in their lifetimes and that is a unbelievable number for the president <hes> as we head into the twenty twenty election. Hopefully it'll help those who we are in the markets. You're in the markets all the time you buy your sell. This market headed higher. Will anybody dare challenge. Donald trump put a market to go higher by twenty twenty. Well I mean I you know I look at the mortgage. Every day. Where interest rates on or earnings or I think the market is is fairly priced because mortgage go up another five to eight percent over the next twelve to eighteen months and won't be fairly priced yes <hes> but we've had a pretty big run off and so oftentimes what happens is you could get a five or ten percent correction? <hes> in that case I would warn people not that'd be sellers of anything. They should be fired so you gentlemen will. We're bullish on the mortgage foolish on the economy but I gotTa Tell You God forbid. If the president lost it would be catastrophic because these people were triple your taxes they would reregulate the system the way the Obama Administration had <hes> they would wreak havoc in the Middle East by this orientating the new balance of power the president's creating that so a Democratic victory could be twenty to twenty five percent slide in the sock anti SCARAMUCCI. Thank you for coming on with.

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Ep. #477:  Stormy Daniels, Jonathan Haidt

Real Time with Bill Maher

56:56 min | 1 year ago

Ep. #477: Stormy Daniels, Jonathan Haidt

"Welcome to an HBO podcast from the HBO late night series real time with Bill Maher start. Thank you. I. You're very relaxed. Just Gary time in America. No, I want you to relax. We had a security sweep I've been sure there are no bombs in the model. And. Ladies got him. And we got a okay. So that's the good news. The man who said bombs pipebombs through twelve people ended attempt. This is what happened in this country this week an attempt to decimate the upper ranks of one of America's major political parties, and it turned out to be. He is exactly what you thought an angry asshole in a red hats. Flag operation. He thinks Trump is the greatest human being ever to live. And of course, he's from Florida. And I couldn't make this up a stripper. Bomber who also strips experts. Experts. Call this peak, Florida. Floor. No, it gets worse. Lives in plantation, Florida. I know how is that still a name what was slave ship Florida taken? Okay. So here's what we we have a racist. Male-stripper? He he he worked under the name. Stormy trooper Daniels getting. Getting. His name is Caesar sciatic like most Trump most of Trump's friends he's white over fifty a registered Republican and has a long criminal record. He's he's also bankrupt has a creepy van lives with his mom and. Last may the NRA named him. Lou Warner of the month. So. But he's he's been arrested eight times eight times battery fraud drug possession threatened to bomb the van creepy. Vani had pictures of Trump all over it make America great, and then pictures of Hillary and other Democrats with their faces in crosshairs. Is it okay? To call this one deplorable. That hurt Republican feelings because he was also a prolific hate tweeter sometimes, sending threats to Democrats, and he was frequently at Trump rallies where he was known as a moderate. Now, he's at typical Trump. Loser blames everybody else because his life sucks. That's who. He is. That's the profile. Trump's biggest supporters are always on middle aged guy who's package doesn't work. Sky. Over twelve with the bombs. Also, I'm guessing on a big believer in science. In his petition for bankruptcy in twenty twelve. There was a handwritten note attached with said that he lives with his mom and has no furniture, and we know who's fault that is Eric Holder and Hillary Clinton. Hillary. What is what do you want to glow Hillary? She's not in office. She lost. She has no power. She's a grandma. Effect when the bomb squad was opening the package. She said save the wrapping paper. Make no mistake. What happened in this country? This guy wanted to wipe out the top Democrats in America, all the major players got a bomb. Oh, God in a bomb by Obama, Biden the Clintons, ever colder. Poor Tim Kaine is waiting by the mailbox. Bernie Sanders is you statement one of my chopped liver. Anybody on Trump's shit list? Got a bum CNN got one George Soros. John Brennan, Robert deniro, Meryl Streep was snubbed. Nothing would look good young. But he heard he was thinking about it on. It's. It's an honor just to be nominated. Trump is mad at the bomber to not because of the bombing. Because it hurt his momentum. He actually said this out loud hurt his momentum with the midterm election. Because before we were talking about my great caravan, the caravan, you know, of the seven thousand of these desperate Honduran people who are coming here only about half. Now are still going. I if there's anyone left by the time, they get here. This you get a trophy. I mean. If this was white people would be on NBC sports. The iron man migrant race. Can't we be a little kinder? Their goal is a simple one. They just wanna make it to Dodger Stadium for game four. You know, I gotta say Republicans bunch of. Fear based they Trump's co closing argument is what was that? Power ban. Brown shirts, Brown shorts is more like it. I mean, they're on their thousand miles away. They're mostly women and children on Fox News. They're tracking the minute by minute. Like their Uber driver coming up. His twenty seven days away. I can. But let's not forget the bomber has been caught. And it's Halloween weekend. I hope that. Yes. Absolutely. We take it seriously out here. I've got a great cost him. I'm putting a tiny orange dick in my mouth. And going Sean Hannity anyway. Johnson hype. I t's a dancer director Trump and MSN author of the new memoir. Full disclosure, please. Welcome warmly, stormy Daniel. First of all, do you prefer stormy or your real name Stephanie? Oh, you went there. Bad. Stormy people. They call me, Stephanie my mother, and I r s and I hate both of them. Okay. Stormy. Well, people might think it's a little incongruent. You're here on such a desperate. Newsweek. But actually, you have quite a connection with what happened this week because you yourself were targeted. And you know, I think people have to understand that this bomber. He didn't need to get instructions from Donald Trump. He just went after everyone on Trump's shitless because he knew that's what that's what's expected. And in a way, that's what happened to you. When you got busted in Hawaii in Hawaii thinking about my mind is on vacation in Ohio because you know, that person who was obviously gleeful to arrest you, I don't think Trump cold that cop and said do it. They were just Trump people, and they knew it would be great. So tell us what happened there was actually four and the craziest part about this as it was women. Right. It was three undercover one white man and one male, and so you working on a strip club, which one. But I. Vice to go there, and I was on stage doing the same show. What city Columbus, Ohio, the platinum lady in Columbus? Name for every strip club. I defend strippers, by the way, one of the last group of people who it's okay to shit on an American men moon admit they know that women think they can look down on them. I like strippers hoop. Fucking knows it. Anyway, I danced in Ohio many times, I'm very well aware of what the law is. And so I was on stage. I was doing the show. I always do people at the stage putting dollars in their mouth, which I think is entrapping when they told me to do it. I think it's disgusting like, yeah. Okay. But dollars have a lot of germs on them. More fecal matter on a dollar Bill then on a toilet. I do. Now, you're. We could have a morning show. So I did my show then the officers actually stood in line and paid to get photos and by DVD's from me. And then they came back. Interested me for something called Motor-boating is that right? Would you like me to demonstrate I would not? Politically, correct LA crowd. Wants you to show us your tits. Okay. But what is not exactly? My face on the money. Okay. I know is normally just if you happen to do that someplace where at the legal, they just write you a ticket. It's never something. You get hold for strip searched the officer Shona or shayna chemically who took part in this raid. She sent emails right after you got arrested giddy about it talking. She said, you're welcome. I work for vice. Now, we arrested stormy this morning. She's in jail. You know, this is not death squads stuff. But this is not what America is. We don't target. You had to go to jail. We literally target the people we don't want. And that's what we're seeing happening in this country. Yeah. Okay. And by the way, they said it was a long term investigation into allegations of human human trafficking. Like, you were hiding refugees in your kids. Score me. We'll be right back after this word from del. Monte. Okay. So let me ask you about Donald Trump. Now that we've got the important stuff out of the way. Why did you fuck? Donald trump. You have no idea. No fucking idea. Why you? Who's got that kind of? Well, he has a spell on a lot of people. So I mean, so it wasn't money. No. I was not paid offered after. No, he never offered to pay me. But we never. Okay. Would you have accepted? No, no, no. I would have been like so offended. Would you get paid sex on camera differ? I get paid not by the person, I'm having sex with I get paid by the company to film it. Technicality. That's. I don't think put a motorboat between that. But. Okay. Yeah. And you know, look, I don't wanna think about Trump's dick anymore. Trek me, not the only one already have. But I mean, I mean, I was the first package. I got the first package and sadly mine went off. Let's go right to the cooking segments. But he didn't use a condom, but you are partners to that. You let that happen. But I thought porn stars supposed to guard. That's your moneymaker. How can you run? How can you raw dog a sleazebag like that? God. Too hard hitting interview. Okay. What you say? It's not a me too. What do you think of the metoo movement? I mean, you certainly could have thrown in with that would be a lie. Okay. I mean, I wasn't assaulted. I wasn't attacked a raped or coerce black Nells. And I think that the metoo moment movement was a very important thing for opening dialogue, and it was very powerful. And I think that when I I sort of came out and was telling people what had happened the truth that they tried to shove me in the to box further own agenda and first of all I didn't want any part of that. Because it's not the truth. And I'm not a victim. And that regard, I think that's more feminism. But the most important thing is from right. You had the agency. You did what you wanted. Yes. And now you say regret it, but we all have. Everybody here audience. Fuck somebody. They regret. Was just line that guy like many people. I guarantee you doing it tonight. So, but like at that moment where you said. Ugh. Here we go. You know, that's like the greatest title for something. If somebody does not write a book about the Trump. Okay, here we go. Musical your musical. You say you're working to strip clubs. You've got to be able to think of a better way to monetize. This shaking your tits at Sira making my pets. PC crowd loves strippers. I love it. Okay. Okay. So last question porn today. It's different than even think. When you did it, right. Like, I say you still doing. When you started, right? Okay. What year? Did you start? What time to two thousand two? I don't think it's benign. And you know, I'm a pretty liberal guy. But I don't think the porn is benign. I think it's it's right. Be it's it's gross. It's demeaning. It's it I understand why this generation of kids is fucked up. If that's what if that's what they're looking at on their phone when they're fourteen. Oh, no. I agree. There's some seriously disturbing stuff. It's it's pushed us limits for sure, but I mean, all of it's not bad. It's I think there's a place for it and healthy relationships. It's a way to explore sexuality open dialogue. I'll always be a fan. I think but just like anything there's there's good and bad in every industry. And is it something that should be consumed? A lot like alcohol. Hall or blunts? Dray? Make make a good case. You did a good thing for America. And I hope you have a good life. Thank you. All right. The look on your face from behind. I could see the look on. Okay. Okay. I'll get it for you. All right. He's a columnist for the Washington Post and author of the corrosion of conservativism. Why I left the right max boot? Hey, max, great to have you back. These border NBC slash MSNBC contributor, Betsy Woodruff. Great to have you. The former White House committee -cations director under President Trump the subject of the new documentary mooch, which is on I tunes and the author of the new book Trump, the blue-collar president Anthony Scaramucci that moved. Moved. I know you only lasted eleven days in that job. But I thought you did a better job than the other two. They had doing it. Thank you. I appreciate that. Bill will think my nickname Ryan's with booing? Right. You tell the difference. Okay. So we're gonna talk about bombs and lies this week. Let's start with bombs. I think what I saw this week is the president of the United States using a domestic terrorist attack to threaten the American media. Am I wrong about that? Because he tweeted a very big part of the younger. We see today in our society is caused by the purposely false in inaccurate reporting, blah, blah, blah, mainstream media must clean up its act fast. That sounds like he's not condemning the bomber. It sounds to me like he's partnering with him. He's literally saying that it is CNN fault. That CNN got mailed a bomb. Right. You're not stretching any of his words to get the sentence. That's the point that he's making. And there's a really instructive comparison that I think we have to make when we talk about this about a year ago. Burris Anders supporter shot up a baseball field full of Republicans, and I was covering it. I was there at the baseball field that day. I followed the story and within hours. Bernie Sanders on the floor of the US Senate decried it disavowed. It said, this is horrible. I do with this. There could not be a bigger contrast between how he handled that horrible catastrophe. And now how Trump is saying that it somehow CNN's fault that this crazy guys going after that it just couldn't be more. Starring Sarah Sanders, actually, said something truthful advertently once you said that Trump. She said Trump could not have been more presidential, and that's exactly right for Donald Trump. He could not have been more presidential. But that's a tragedy for the country because we actually do need somebody who is more presidential, and he missed the massive opportunity here if he had just expressed a little remorse for his own hateful rhetoric for calling the media. The enemy of the people for calling Democrats, traders evil and crazy if you had except that a little personal responsibility people would've loved it. You would have gone up in popularity but he just can't do it. He can't hope and. Tub. Spot for you. But I, but you listen, you can be loyal to somebody. And you have to be honest about the situation. You know, I don't like sycophants. He because that's like, selfishness and self preservation. And so you'd have to tell the truth they max it made me a point. I tried to make the point in the White House, which is probably why only lasted eleven days. There was no reason to have a war with the media. The first thing I did in the White House was turned the lights encounters back on because I believe in the first amendment, and you have to hold people in power accountable. Second thing. You had to end the war declaration. Because here's what happens is both sides get fired up. Jeff Zucker sent out a missive. And then the president sends out a miss of. And then Sarah comes out and says something, and it's totally unnecessary because what ends up happening. If you really like the president, some people may or may not, but he has an eight to ten point headwind as a result of the Bill of CASA Di of this rhetoric, meaning Connie's doing, well, he's got a lot of things going correctly for the society is released jobs job, growth, deregulation, etc. But this sort of stuff is now a battle between policy, and you're saying, this is helping him hurting hurting eight to ten percent headwind blowing his race. Okay. Depressing. His poll numbers, and and preventing him from getting to a higher ground that get well. And also, let's be honest. This is never going to get better. Because what he is asking the media to do is not criticize him. See I said this view weeks ago at the end of our show. It's all comes from this one trait of narcissism, this is a disease that we are not going to cure and as long as he has it. It's not going to get better because the media's job is to criticize him, especially now more than ever. So that's going to keep going on. And he's going to keep interpreting that as your being negative to me and part of the reason that it's such a big problem for this particular president is that he's obsessed with the media. He probably more cable news than the average human beings, probably want to be number one was barechested viewers of cable television. And because of that because he's so obsessed with the way he's being covered. And because he's been with for decades going back twenty a real estate developer, and you would call tabloid reporters in New York to pitch them on stories because of that the media has a much bigger impact on his mental state than on any other typical president. And that's why he so upset all also got this amazing sense of victimhood. I mean, I think Chris Hayes. Best when he said, some somehow us both victim and Victor. And somehow even though he is president of the United States. He feels like he's being picked up on. He feels like he's the real victim here. Not the people who are getting bombs in the mail having work with them, and you know, been on the campaign trail and seeing him in action. I see it a little bit differently. I think that he's had these ingrained impulses to counterpunch maybe cone autumn that or somebody taught on that early on. And so every aggression, micro or macro aggression. He's made a determination over forty five years hit five times Horder and it's worked from Bill. He's working for us. For. I'm trying to. Haringey more about his psychosis Borealis observation, but. I was I was going to say that this is an incredibly dangerous for this country to have an arsonist in the White House, we setting fire to our politics. This is very very dangerous. This is not going to end. Well, and you know, he may be doing it for partisan advantage. But the disadvantage is to the country. Our politics are is being true to what what happened to calling things terrorism. I seem to remember that debate with Obama and Mitt Romney win them all up his ask about you didn't say terrorism which he did after Benghazi or he said act of terrorism. This isn't an act of terrorism and God forbid, we a- we unfairly maligned particular group based on the activities alone wolf. Well, listen, I mean, I mean, listen there's an opportunity here to pivot, and I hope he does. Because if he pivots any dials back the rhetoric a little little help the country. I think max it's not going to have to doesn't give it. He's not a pivot. At age seventy three it's all going to click in for but at age seventy eight seventy one he was using Twitter better than most sixteen year old. So. Is that really true about Twitter? That's actually the reason why all of us are getting hit and shadow ban on Twitter is because he probably won the presidency. Well, using Twitter, I will be very very effective with it. You may not like what he was doing. But the whole point of my book is at the people that I grew up with happen to light. Would he was doing? You have not had an advocate in the last thirty five years in the Oval Office for the middle and lower middle class people. And here's. Disappears. Here's plying. Why did he win? Why did you win all those people live because they don't they don't do it by policy people in this country are over policy. They do it by feeling and I'll admit the axis of evil in this country is the media, and it's helplessness if they're not sue shit, but not raise genius at manipulating bullshit. He is a media genius. People that are now, here's here's a market collar people or some of them are racist. Well, this guy was gonna lead. He is saying that the ponderous of them are not the different. I don't think racism is what their problem is. I mean, he is a marketing genius. But he is helped along by the fact that he has no sense of responsibility or restraint he will stoop to measures that no previous president would have possibly stooped to in order to win votes. And he doesn't care what the cost of the country is I heard you talk about his life. On several shows a new said, we want to say these not lying. That's what other people do. I mean, that's Sarah Sanders. Whole I'm not I'm not I'm not an apologist. I. Because. Well, okay. I am. Okay. Pretty good self. Okay. I call as I say, okay. I disagree with him on the child separation policy. I told him that he had a lower the flag after John McCain. I keep come up with ten or fifteen things where I I don't agree with your one of the good ones. But I really try to be. I'm just trying to call. Boy. I go ahead. We've heard that before. Leave that what out for this? Here's what you said. You said you agree. He we know what you said we both know these telling lies. I'm not happy that he's a liar. Nobody should lie. But then you said but politicians happen to lie. But you know, you're a politician now so politicians lie when their lips are moving. And so these people lie that itself is a lie because that is is trying to convince people will they all lie. He's in a field with the others. Can I just read what has lies wasn't the point though with your quote? No, I understand that. But there was a little bit more to the quote in that. Okay. What what I what I was basically. That's the part. I'm interested. Okay. I mean, slice important. I mean, there's other. But you're trying to say he lies. They all lie. Just want to tell you this one week now on we that means I'm giving an apology for the lie. That's not what I was trying to do. I was trying to explain to you what he is doing by embellishing those stories really stand for themselves embellishing way to say PSA, Anthony, okay? The word lie. I'm not really BSE. I'm telling you why he's doing it. And I'm trying to explain why beat them calling out calling them out on it. Yes. Well, we call it. Okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna going on in the country. Okay. I'm gonna go all out if you guys just so people know because there is an election coming up, and maybe I can persuade a few. This is just one week. Closing argument for this election is lies on the scale even new to him there are hordes coming here. He calls this an invasion. He calls. This a national emergency. These starving on Durance. It's not a national emergency. This few thousand than we took in we stopped three hundred thousand at the border last year. He's saying Republicans are the ones who are for preserving the ban on pre pre existing conditions. When it's the opposite. He saying that the caravan had middle easterners in it. I mean, I could go on he he's not just disputing facts. He's disputing the concept of facts. When asked about middle easterners in the caravan. He said so many said there's no proof. He said there's no proof of anything. No proof of anything. But they're well could be. Okay. I made a list of things you can prove Obama was born in Hawaii CNN's ratings are not weighed down climate is men made climate change crowd sizes can be measured. Brett Cavanaugh didn't graduate number one. From Yale Law School helium is lighter than oxygen. No proof of anything these past a point here. The thing that's important to understand about Trump. And when he talks says things is that he doesn't think about what he's saying in terms of truth or lie. He thinks about it in terms of winning or losing. And so he says, what do you think will help him win, regardless of any any notion of real connection to reality has a really good example of this is very recently. He said an opioid Bill that he signed a Bill designed to help mitigate a horrifying catastrophe. That's killing countless Americans. He said Democrats largely opposed opioid Bill. That's not true it passed ninety nine to one in the Senate. He's the only president who would try to pretend that he didn't have bipartisan support for a major piece of legislation. Because there's an election coming up and he wants to take us opportunity. Credibly. I it's an incredibly important point here to to refute. What Anthony's trying to say here, which is that, you know, somehow politicians lie, and he may be lies a little bit more. Now, this is off the charts line blizzard. Bullshit. Point here because a lot of politicians lie a little bit for Donald Trump lying as the default mode. According to the Washington Post, he lies average of eight times a day if he tells the truth, it's an accident. Okay. So calling him out on it is a lot like being the hall monitor in the elementary school calling him out on it, just like a metric schools need hall monitors. So we should American really help you you obviously want to beat the guy. Right. Yes. Okay. So if you wanna listen, I can actually some insight what he is doing is. He is galvanizing his base. He has figured out that by mechanize ING these words the way he has. And getting you upset and max upset and having ten people at CNN read, the wise, and I think the Washington Post has the six thousand lies let's say ten thousand line. It's record-breaking let's say it's fifty thousand let me make the point say it's fifty thousand what he's doing is. He's got the volume up on something. And he's made it a calculated bed that the people that are voting for him don't care about that. And he's made a calculated. Why I said, right? But what is the what is the Ternate of if you're saying? Don't sell them out on the lies in the minutes thing, he said all of that doesn't matter we want and they lost. What did he say? I get that. But what is the alternative to not calling out lies? We all live in a world where we're pretending what the mad king sees is. We all say don't own says, the sky is we don't call them out on that. Because. Upset. Strategy. Okay to call him out on it. But you see how upset you're getting right now. There's a group of people upset everybody should be. They haven't gotten a fair shake from the government. So if you call them out for the lies people think you're not being fair gonna lose. Here's here's what's really. Here's what's really important. There's little lose again when you when you bag after the election, and he's warning. I'll explain to you what he did to you explained it, but it's not really advancing. But that's the strategy. And it's working. Two years. There's going to be a national crisis. There's going to be some sort of mass casualty event or recession or economic disaster. And the American people will need to know that someone in a position, but thority is telling them things that are true. And every time the president tells a ridiculous mythological magic magical nonsensical lie. Yes. There's does defense that you can make from sort of this political Maquiavelian perspective, but in the long term for this country if laying the groundwork for little on all right? I'm gonna bring out John. It's going to help answer the question, you're asking and you're gonna like the second half of the show, probably a little more. I'm not asking question. I'm explain what he's doing, and you animated about in a lot of people like that, maybe not these people, but there's a large group of people in the middle America that lie. Cody Canada me about this assaults on Anthony. And we can't even really see seems like strategy max, and I got actually give you the playbook. I I know you. We're not having this conversation. Let's bring on Jonathan different. We're in two different levels. We're like you ever get into bed and somebody's on the other sheet. They're under the sheet. We're not we're not saying she. Okay. Together. You know, like, I say the same thing. Believe me. He's just at New York university's stern school of business and co author times bestseller, the coddling of the American mind, how good intentions and bad ideas are setting up a generation for failure Jonathan height, Donna. Okay. Let's get right to this and see how this all folds and together. Now, the last thing we need in this country is another reason for democracy to be threatened. But your book says fun. It's the darn kids today. Explain that a little I'm paraphrasing your actual eminent. Professor, you said and better words than I just did. Please share. Well, the book has its origins in an observation from my co author Greg lewke on off he is the president of the foundation for individual rights in education defense, free, speech rights on campus, and in two thousand thirteen Greg began noticing that for the first time, it was the students who are asking for protections from words and books, and ideas and speakers previously students had protested speakers before but they'd never before medical. They acted as though if this person says something, I will be harmed damage people will be traumatized, and so this was something new, and when they put it in terms of safety, well, then administrators have to respond. So this. Came in around twenty thirty two thousand fourteen and it brought with it a whole package of innovations. You might say microaggressions training safe-space trigger warnings. All this stuff appears from out of nowhere around twenty thirteen twenty fourteen. That's something I did not realize until I was reading your book. I thought it went back further because I've been talking about the fragile stuff for a long time. But I didn't realize this is a new generation the millennials stop at nineteen ninety-five that nineteen Ninety-four. That's right. Okay. So now, we're into the I gen you call them or generations Z same thing. That's right. And even more fragile. Yeah. Well, so this is something that can we blend? Start blaming. I wanna blame. Let's let's play the blame game. Okay. Okay. With you. All you all the parents with you all the all the teachers, so yeah. The basic the basic finding which I think surprised a lot of a lot of assume that the millennials were from nineteen eighty to around two thousand nine hundred ninety eight but kids born around nineteen ninety-five had very different childhood from kids born a few years before. And so we searched by gene, gene, twenty another show that kids won't after nine ninety five. They don't get driver's licenses as much they don't drink as much. They don't go out on dates. They don't have sex as much what are they doing? They're sitting at home on their devices talking with each other, and this seems to be changing social development, and we know this. This is not just some, you know perception from outsiders because the rates of anxiety disorders, depression, self cutting where they have to be admitted to hospitals and suicide all of these rates are way way up especially for girls, and it all begins right around twenty eleven and so it's when this. Ration- first interest, college campuses and twenty thirteen. That's when all the this new attitude about speech comes in is another reason that they're sitting home instead of doing all those fun things is because the parents insist on watching them all the times, actually, we've talked a member twenty years ago, we talked about how a cop their parents, you know, hovering over them. And now, they call it a bulldozer parrot gyp, clear out any obstacles parenting. I've heard right. Yeah. So the kid doesn't have to ever face any difficulties. How can that kid function in the real world? That's right. So the most important psychological idea in the book is anti fragility that there's some things that are fragile like a wine glass if you not over it breaks nothing. Good happens if something's plastic not get over it doesn't get damaged, but doesn't get better. But there are some things that have to be stressed or challenged like the immune system. If you protect your kids immune system used bacterial wipes. You're actually hurting the kid you're preventing the system from getting information. Same thing social life. If you protect your kids from being excluded from being insulted from being teased when they grow up. It's like the Princess and the Pete a little tiny thing that they encounter on campus now becomes intolerably painful, but it's not all over the country. Really? I mean, it's it this is something when they talk about elites this is who we're talking about. I think a little more. Yeah. The heartland kids who are fuck you mom, you know, call him the fuck you mom generation. No I used to. Yeah. I mean calling mama bitch turning their back on with their mothers talking. If I did that. I would not be sitting here today. The negotiating with the with the kids. You know? Hey, buddy. Yeah. Ready to go. That's right. That's right kids kids structure thority when parents tried to hard to be their friends. Yeah. But but on the point about whether this is everywhere. So this is such a new trend. We only to notice these things in the last couple years, but what seems to be the case is that the being Zeidan depression, the fragility the mental illness that's across the country across social classes across races. And that's why social media use is beginning early beginning in middle school that seems to be the most likely culprit of several culprits. So that's all over the country. But the the the shutdowns the screaming at professors, we've mapped that out that is almost only in the northeast and just the coastal strip of the west coast and a little bit in Chicago. But that's what gets the headlines, and that's dominates media. The see the kid who's screaming at the professor who gets a job at the Huffington Post. That's right and provides fodder for that four, right? Zag media today. Look how the problem with liberals in general is that they let those kids who are at the Huffington. Poster whatever writing their insane woke shit. They let them control the debate. Just like the parents let the kid control when we're leaving. We've let the kids take over. That's like job one. You don't do in civilization. That's right there you respect the elders. That's like every civilization before this one because they might be. Connected to this point of why we lose I think that's relevant. I think people in this country don't anymore pay attention to policy so much. It's more this personal stuff. It's anecdotal. I don't know about global warming. What causes a recession? But you know, I saw that mother at the soccer game or in the supermarket and her five year old was screaming at her and she was apologizing to the five year old. I'm not gonna let those people take over the country. I think that's the level it works. Enter into Donald Donald Trump is do I think he understands that. Because he's a guy who thinks global warming is a Chinese hoax, but he knows how to attach derogatory nicknames to people, and that's a lot of his success in politics. The senators -ation of the social media sites. Have a kid puts beautiful pictures of themselves on the site. And then another looks at it and feels that their life is less than two full sanitation is affecting them as well. And yet reading a lot of things -iety. Absolutely. And that's probably the main reason why it's affecting the girls so much more than the boys. Because if you if you imagine all the kids in America around two thousand seven to two thousand nine you suddenly just dropped millions and millions of iphones all over the country and kids pick them up. What are the boy's gonna do? Oh video games. And it turns out actually video games aren't that harmful born no rarely that's not a joke motor about his. Yeah. Doc. But just to finish up here. So the boys are mostly doing video games, aren't so bad. Even if they're running around imagining worlds killing people as my son does with his friends. It's really cooperative. There's teamwork they're talking, but what the girls are. What the girls are doing is putting something out and then waiting anxiously while people comment on it. And so it's it's the social comparison. It's the fear of missing out also girls, bullying is relational, boys. Bullying physical. So social media doesn't really effective but girls can never get away. If they're being bullied, so this is why we think that the suicide rate is up twenty five percent for boys. But it's up seventy percent of girls. Okay. Couple more issues before we run out of time. We're talking about why they lose. I think the mullahs report. I know he's non political. But I dunno should have come out by now because it's going to come out after the election. We've somehow completely forgotten about the fact that the president colludes with Russia and let Russia help him winning elected. That's not. Today. Ten days before the election in two thousand sixteen you know, what happened ten days before the election Komi Komi about Hillary's emails, somehow, they always get the breaks, and we don't and it's gonna come out after the election in minutes. Isn't making decisions based on. The opposite of somebody could have somebody could a let them know. All right. Last thing we're talking about the media. You know, if if the media's liberal, I gotta say they're doing Donald Trump's bidding, especially with this stupid Buchan caravan. You know, it's a lie that this caravan is is a problem of that magnitude, then why cover it so much all your networks. You are doing Donald dirty. Do they really help you? You you said something your monologue. And my wife said to me the other day, there's a lot of women and children in the caravan. And so you have to ask yourself rhetorical question. What a woman bring their babies or their young children hundreds or thousands of miles of the border. If they weren't afraid of something. That's the mistake. The mistake is that you're covering up. You're not covering down here the level. And this is what the president's very very good at. He's got people covering it up here at this level that it's a national disgrace. We gotta stop it. We're gonna have -secutive order on it. But it's actually a human story. And I think the media's doing a disservice to the Uman side of the story, you know. You know? What what his demagoguing the Central American caravan? I mean, Donald Trump is really showing that he thinks that his core supporters are native us with memory loss. Because nobody seems to remember he did this in April. We had another caravan, and this was not hordes of people invading raping and pillaging America. It was a big nothing. Basically it was about four hundred people who applied for asylum, which they're legally entitled to do. They were not breaking the law doing that. Just as these people have a legal right to apply for silent. And to pick up on what Anthony was saying. Let's short, little empathy for them. Let's not demagogue them. Let's not demonize them understand. These people are suffering and they're trying to get a better life. They're not carrying. It is. Listen, be Stanley guy. Okay. He's using that methodology. And he's using what you wrote on your books or to get the story appear as opposed to the ume inside story getting the giving the story is low Eze Ken to scare people on his side. Put my hands down here. That's where it should be down. There. I don't that for down. But let me let me he doesn't care about what I'm saying. There's symbolism and told him here these using. And it's distorted the way the media's reporting it, and they could be doing a better job reporting it from the Uman side of it. And all of a sudden American people would look at as wait a minute our values or that. We wanna take care of these viewing value. That's not. That's not the prob-. Yes. Yes. Watching from from off stage. And and we're all trying to figure out how can people believe this? How can this be happening? How can I it seems as the country completely lost its mind accord one thing I can I can contribute from from social moral and political psychology is that if you look at how much left and right disliked each other and you go back to the seventies and eighties. It wasn't actually all that much. If you write data from that American national elections survey, but it's been rising steadily since then, and as we begin to hate each other more and more motivated reasoning gets stronger and stronger, we're desperate to believe anything that would make the other side, look bad and these tribal processes in which the enemy of my enemy is my friend or any variation of that. So partly what's happening. The temperature's rising turning up our ancient, psychological circuits tribal warfare. And then we say how can those people be like that? How can they believe anything the same conversations going on the right about the left? All right. Thank you at all times for no roles. They're all summit has to tell Jamie Lee Curtis. She gets no sympathy for me. She had forty years to install some bars on those windows. Neuro stop saying this nine hundred ninety dollar Fendi touch of first shawl looks like a vagina what kind of deviant mind, you have to have to look at something as to to look at something as. Never mind. All right. If you're a former NFL player who writes a book saying the science behind CD is a sham and a plot to destroy football. You have see. Although we're looking forward to reading your future books. Why did I come to this grocery store? And the nurses are stealing from me. That's. Narrowed the department of motor vehicles has to explain why I have to get a smog check every year and drive a car that turns off the engine that every stop light to save gas. But Leno gets the tool around Burbank at a nineteen seventeen. Fuck you Bill that gets three feet to the gallon and everybody gets miles away. Knee-roll now that crest has introduced gum detoxify toothpaste. Join their governor now repair toothpastes their baking soda and peroxide tooth Bates in three D white toothpaste. They need to introduce a new toothpaste called. It's just fucking toothpaste. And finally new role for the sake of democracy. We have to move Holloway lean. Move it far far away from election day. Why? Because it's a reminder of everything conservatives hate fun. Imagination paganism walking. Gay pride. Women dressing provocatively. Kids demanding free handouts that socialism. Publican voters are scared enough as it is when they hear the doorbell tickets one of three things S, thirteen antifa. Or a false accusation of rape. The last thing they need to look out there and say his Black Panther. Think about the things that angry up the Fox News base. What's the single overarching? Message of that network. Weirdos are coming for your shit. Well, that's what happens on October thirty first people dressed as hawkers walking up your driveway people in chains who aren't Helary. Which cackle doorbells that sound like Hillary? Men dressed as women women dressed as men Dulce. Dresses, Harry Potter and everything is slutty slutty nurse slutty pirates pizza. Slutty Bishop Desmond Tutu. Slutty Saudi assassin never Adams. The only thing conservatives like about Halloween is the appearance of NAS for two. I'm telling you Holloway. They hate socialism. They hate the pay this the bible specifically condemns, which is vampires. Wizards ghosts, you know, all the fun people at the part. And then it also became gay Christmas. How? How is Halloween? It makes West Hollywood gayer. It's like making Utah whiter. And then there's the trap we walk into every year. Now, I personally don't care if you go trick or treating dressed as point. Oh, one percent of Elizabeth Warren. The office of scolding Justice warriors has decreed no hula girls. No Indian chiefs. No southern bells. No, Daniel Boone, no, geishas, ninjas, gypsies mobsters terrorists. No, Cleopatra pirates offend one. I'd people. You can't dressed as a Hobo because it makes light of the homeless. You can't dress Quasimodo because it offends hunchback's. You can't. Can't dressed as a scape. Mental patient at offense cognac. These sexy Handmaid's tale costume. The Handmaid's tale cost him already been pulled from the shelves apology issued. Lest someone be offended by the ironic. Take on a character that doesn't exist from a fictional world. That never happened. Not everything that merely alludes to another culture is racist or cultural appropriation. Really imagine. There's no countries it isn't hard to do. Hala weaned was always fun because it wasn't PC not being PC almost the whole point of the holiday. But now everything has to turn into a federal case of snowflakes versus humor, and then some cultural studies professor will go on TV to try to explain his outrage and taco Carlson look at them like this. The majority of America is with the Democrats on the issues. They just find the woke people irritating as hell in a new poll. Eighty percent of Americans find political correctness to be a problem, including seventy five percent of African Americans. Seventy four percent of Americans under thirty eighty two percent of Asians eighty seven percent of Hispanics, eighty eight percent of native Americans. If you're not a statistician, let me break those numbers down for you. Nobody likes you. Including the so called marginalized groups whose feelings you've decided need protecting because trust me somewhere right now are three clueless white girls in Texas who are leading to go as mariuchi band. And when they do liberal Twitter will lose their shit and the rest of America will go for fuck sake. When did liberals become the fun police? Does anybody? Remember when conservatives with the ones with the sticks up their asses. We went from. Yes, we can to. Oh, no. You didn't. Vegas tonight. Hawaii thirty at the Blaisdell New Year's Eve as always thank. Real time with Bill Maher every Friday ninety or watching any time. 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The Economist asks: Anthony Scaramucci

"Hello and welcome to the economist asks and Miquel voi- and this week. We're asking is Mr. Trump the people's president. President Trump spent recent weeks on a riotous campaign to holding eleven rallies in eight states in the last week alone working the stadium like boardroom, he presented himself as a man of the people to rapturous crowds. You're defending together. With a lot of other great Republicans your freedom. This election will decide whether we build on the extrordinary prosperity that we've unleashed taken care of ourselves for change. Pataudi Donald Trump real estate billionaire native of the Gulf course, convince half of America that he was one of them. My guest today believes the president ease an ordinary Joe. And he Scaramucci worked for Donald Trump's team for almost a year culminating in eleven yes. Just eleven days as white has director of communications last year. His original trait is finance. He founded and runs investment firm skybridge capital. And his new book is called Trump. The blue color president Anthony Scaramucci, welcome to the economist ousts fantastic introduction. I was hoping you'd read it again. Let's look at your work with Donald Trump. You say in your book that it was a story of a unique friendship with the president. So how did the two of you meet and how did you become so close? Well, I mean, I don't wanna characterize it as close that's unfair. We have a good acquaintanceship. We have a good knowledge of each. Other. And you know, I think we we we enjoy Joe's personality we both had a laugh at at different situations. But I met him in one thousand nine hundred five my old boss introduced me to his name was Michael Fassa tally was at Goldman Sachs at the time. And what I write in the book is that he left a Yuejin pressure on me because he was then Donald J Trump he had already been a bestselling author and at a colossal success and was wonderful with PR on. I'm sure I made absolutely no impact on him. It wasn't until the two thousand eight nine ten period of time that we got to know each other because I was working at CNBC, and he had the NBC hit show the apprentice. And so then we started a more casual relationship, and then our relationship got very serious during the Mitt Romney campaign where we did to fundraisers, and Mr. Trump's apartment, and we had worked on a telephone together and some other things, and so that's when when he indicated three or four years later they've been around for president. That's when the relationship really started develop you. You're on the campaign, fullness to you. You'll take away from that. Is that Trump is blue collar hero? That'd be fed. Yeah. Yeah. What I would say is that he's a hero to the ordinary Joe that you're describing in the introduction. One of the reason why titled the the book the blue-collar president is I knew that the liberals would set their hair on fire, and they would shriek in horror that I would call a guy that was born with a golden toilet seat. Abe blue-collar president, you know, and if you looked at his apartment, and you can see it on the internet is it looks like Louie the fourteenth smoke, crystal meth and then decorated the apartment, and so you know, he's not a blue collar person. He's obviously born fairly gilded in. So the notion of the book, and the concept was for whatever reason he was able to tap into an identifier with the middle class and lower middle class struggle in the United States, and there's a struggle like that going on in the United Kingdom, which is also tied to the Brexit. There's a thread here between our two countries where half of the. Population has felt left out by the process of globalization. And so there's an anger response for later to that of the president was able to tap into that I did twenty six campaign stops with him. And when I tell on a story in the book, I grew up in blue collar family. My dad was an hourly worker, but what I tell in the book is that I started to lose touch with my origin, for whatever reason, this is unfortunate. But very true as I went to tops and Harvard Law School, and Goldman Sachs, and I started building my hedge fund businesses. I myself started operating a circle of elites, and I started to get the convert biases of the elites, and so spent enough time in Davos, Switzerland. You start thinking people that go two thousand insulin. And so it wasn't until I got back to my roots on the Trump campaign that I realized that the president was actually talking to the people that I grew up with I can see that. That's the recipe cooking the Trump victory. But you spend that time out there on the road with Donald Trump wiz the evidence other than the cell photog- ising. The depends a lot of president someone L E this move the Mace that he actually has any direct connection people. He meets give me on a date. I can tell you very specific episode. We were in Albuquerque New Mexico may of twenty sixteen and we met with a group of workers that were displaced by a factory moving from New Mexico to what they were calling the new New Mexico, which happened to be Mexico. And so, you know, this, but maybe your listeners don't the United States lost sixty five thousand factories after the signing of NAFTA over twenty five year period of time. And so he was sitting there with that group of people at around table, and he listened to every one of their stories now, you could say that was fake listening. You could say that fake feeling their pain like President Clinton used to be able to do. But it really doesn't matter. They they responded to him and they attach themselves them. There were nine thousand people at the Albuquerque Civic Center on may twenty fifth twenty sixteen there were seven thousand people waiting outside that Civic Center, and so you had sixteen thousand. People. The other establishment candidates could not draw those types of people. So it was a combination of his name. Bill Clinton was often seen as someone who could the got sense, of empathy. They most similar than Joe Klein novel Clinton, which I think's dots seen of him sitting and deep conversation apparently interested in this regard is stories similar is politics. What is better than sincerity for a politician fakes and Saturday have you can fake sincerity man when you own the world, you know, how hard it is for people that actually fakes and Saturdays. I'm not saying it's real or not it doesn't really matter. What matters is sixty two point eight million people voted for a guy that never worked for the American government since I already point takes us into Tusla you've had before about the Trump team and pitched truth. Do you think it has a fundamentally different approach the idea of truth to a lot of people? I mean, look people get upset with me, you know, while you're you're parsing the word lying versus intentionally gnome. Not I say the president's lying. I'm not holding back on that. I don't agree with it. But I'm telling you that there's a strategy there. He's lying. So that a liberal journalist in the mainstream media will set their hair on fire and run around and the television set to crying his lies, and he enjoys that. And he also knows that that's feeding the beast of his base who despise the liberal media stablishment and they despise the global elites. So every time he tells a lie and there's a hall monitor Proctor checking his lies like the Washington Post. He's told nine thousand lies as he came into the office. He laughs about he thinks. It's funny. Yes, nNcholas you may not think it's funny. But he does. I mean, it's test my sense of humor. I mean is that cynical giddy? Find it quite amusing. I'm 'rational about it. I'm not really being political about being observational about it. When you say that it's cynical. I would say it's different than being cynical. I would say that this guy feels tortured by the media ninety two percent of the media's decidedly against that's not me saying, that's the Harvard study that said it, and so his attitude is okay. You guys are deploying mechanisms of unfairness and dishonesty towards me. Let me deploy some mechanisms of unfairness in dishonesty toward you, by the way, I have called liberal media can take, but what about truthfulness than to Woods's aim base. Do you think he is to the woman in the Lilan, the the you and the people who? My cousin who never finished high school who's a clamor out on Long Island. Sound loves the guy. My other cousin argues a autoglass installer. Loves the guy. So it's doesn't really matter. Does it? You know, you're. Matters to a journalist who seeking objective truth. But what it really doesn't matter is are these people galvanized around him. And why and the answer is there's been a vacuum of advocacy for these people for four decades. Nobody has come into their zone and talk their language and related to them and offered some level of advocacy your country has also star for that. Which is one of the reasons why so many people voted for the Brexit, which likely is against the interests of your country was able to do over. My suggestion would be not over the Brexit. But you know, what happens is the people that are in power. They liked power more than they like the people because if you're a people that were in power, they would say, hey, let's do a do over here is better for the country. I think the underlying worry whether you towards the left of the right of the spectrum is the society's that politics takes such a dim view of the idea of truth. Even if they full Schultz, many occasions end up in it was position does that appeal to you. You're twenty lead. And it's not it's not me. I don't like it at all. Okay. One of the reasons why I lasted eleven days is that I like tell people the truth when I got done with my press conference, which was seen by fifty million people on position research person called me on my phone Republican party to hey, you can't tell the truth from the White House not allowed to do that in Washington. No more than you're allowed to do that here in your parliament, the politicians are lying when their mouths are moving and the people are getting tired of it. You're moving into an age of transparency. Now. Everybody has a smartphone. You can't kill a journalist in consulate anymore. You're gonna find out about it. Okay. So the people are fed up with it. And so whether you like Mr. Trump, Mr President if you don't like about what he can do for them. We're son politician is telling the truth. Let me let me ask you a question. I know it's your podcast. Let me ask you a question. What Paul Titian, do you know in the west that has a twenty five year plan to fix these intractable problems? You know, any? That you questions you asked me, do they try to speak the truth? And I think a lot of politicians take the edges off the truth, but dementia in the democratic tradition time politicians. The politicians unequivocally lie because you want to start from this view absolute cynicism. If political so you need to keep saying petitions lie I'm suggesting that politicians like to certain extent in at some line more than maced without buffet his that cynical or is that just observational and looking at something, that's very obvious. The people are very tired of on both sides of this pond. People are very tired of the line. I want to talk to you about the transition team and something that has just come back into the news with Michael Lewis's Niba fifth risk. He says there was no Hyundai the Trump team. Just didn't ton up to the traditional hand of your own team. Well, it had to do the number of different things. I think that once the president one he took a look governor Christie had done in the formation of the transition for whatever reason they decided to dischord it. And so we can analyze that. Whether it made sense or not about the president appointed vice-president Pence after he removed governor Christie from the transition. And so we were understaffed the president took a position that he didn't think that all of these people were necessary to have in government. And so he's probably operating the executive branch thirty to thirty five percent deficit to the prior administration. Did you take that you didn't seem to be backwards in your opinions? You come full as you could have gone. We didn't want to do anything over much Boma deed on whatever on the economy or foreign policy, but we'll take the class as Michael to know, my my view of the situation is that very smart men and women from both the left and the right. Did it a certain way for a reason? And. Take all of that collective knowledge over say one hundred years and throw it in a dustbin and start over. I wouldn't have done that. I think the president is right though, that there are too many people in government the population four million governmental employees at the federal government levels too much. It's too ponders. What do you think the President Trump team who strikes us being useful note on the President Trump team or you have the name people? I mean, you know, obviously, the president's very useful. He said a very successful run the Connie's booming. He's going to straighten out the North Korean situation. You'll get a trade deal done in the U and you'll get a trade deal. John with China, very similar to the trade deal that he did with the Canadians and the Mexicans putting a hurt on the Iranian regime, which will likely end that the AUSSIE. And it'll lead to more stability in the Middle East. Theocracies we in nineteen eighty two. Ronald Reagan spoke at the Notre Dame university said the final pages of communism or now being written there about the return to the dustbin of history. Do you think the Iranian theocracy is gonna last if the Chinese and the Russians and the Americans want them out lost his very long lead? Let's see it's been about that. Donald Trump was useful on his team. That's good to know. But do you think the team is well balanced amendment? Steven Mnuchin is doing a phenomenal job. And he's been a great secretary treasury General Mattis secretary Mattis has been great, I think that Larry cudlow soon a very good job John Bolton I've known him for fifteen years. I think he has the president's trust doing a very good job. I'm not fond of general Kelly. He's destroyed. The morale inside the community of the west wing, and he has been to militant in terms of his operating and management style. And that's all of those things that I said a year ago, and those things that I I an ally in my book are coming true today. And so look, I may not be the best communications director. I only lasted eleven days, but I built two very good businesses. And I know how to evaluate talent. And so I had a mix and match people, and I can tell you who works, and who doesn't and so called low works believe it or not Navarro works. He works inside the system, I can name the people for you. But you know, there's some that work and some that don't the president knows that he's not stupid. You've got to give us your. Or advice? Someone lasting eleven days in high profile job. What you learn. Well, I got an eleven day PHD in Washington dishonesty. I got a I understand now that the screen writers from the game of thrones got together with the hunger games and that wasn't enough. So they added the house of cards screenwriters and that still wasn't enough. So they went with the people because they had to be a little bit of comedy. And so these people are absolutely treacherous. And they're as ruthless because they're close the power. The power is corrupt the force as I also wants vote except us. No, I made probably ten foam looks mistakes in my life, and I probably made five phone books mistakes and eleven days I was ill suited for the job for many, different reasons. But the main one is I had no experience in dealing with people like that came to a head when you described Steve Bannon his also being on this show is self mating sorta passing I think that that's a little unfair. Because what happened was the reporter? If you listen to the entire. Tape. He was suggesting that he wanted to do a profile on me in the New Yorker. And I said I wasn't 'Self promotional St. Ben. And and then I use that comment. Okay. Which was an aggressive comment that I regret having said that I trusted the reporter. That was my mistake. He was a guy that I trusted I should have trusted. I don't disclaim blame. I take full accountability for the mistake. And they say, by the way, it cost me my job. Would you want to go back? No don't trust. You know? Oh, my wife is outside looking through the glass shaking their heads saying. Yes. Of course, he would go back because he stupid. But no, I'm not going to go back because I got my family back together. And I got my business back together. And I love my life. Okay. And by the way, I'm loyal to the president. I never broke ranks with the president. When you think about that? I came in. He asked me to do a job. Okay. Couldn't stand the ban. And by the way, what I said about the Ben and you had him on the podcast. So, you know, he's a little crazy. What I said about Steve Bannon is exactly what the president said about Steve Bannon in January. But for the excellent, I know how to evaluate how this guys have very very bad guy. He's a treacher to the society, and I'll debates demand maybe you invite him instead that microphone. That will miss environment. She said I will swim over here. You can get Steve Bannon is right there. Zalin challenge here on the economist. When you were talking about your time that reef time that you had that not job in. What has he did? So you wanted to wanted to turn the lights back on you. And you did what you did that for these shows of time that you were that we're not talking to time when Donald Trump team Trump these has taken away the press positive of someone who us jn inconvenient question of mess conference. You think that the responsible has to Jim Causton only? No, I totally disagree with it. I why make Jim into a mortars totally unnecessary. I'm a big believer in the first amendment. We're talking about people that can be corrupted by power, our founders knew that which is why the free press you have to hold these people in power accountable. One of my first moves perhaps one of my only moves was turn the lights and cameras back on because I think it's very important to have that relationship. It can be an adversarial relationship. I understand that look throughout history. Democrats Republican presidents that some levels of adversarial this too. With the press. But I don't like the war declaration. You're mentioning Bannon. Bannon's declared war on the press at CPAC in February of two thousand seventeen that was a disaster for the president on my first day. He turned me in the Oval Office. Why do you think such a big problem with the press? I had a forty five year great relationship with them. I said you let Bannon declare war once you declare war. The matches are struck and the dynamite sticks close to Jimmy Costa. Still had his press has. Grind, isn't it? It's Donald Trump. But it's the Monkees too. Because let me tell you something. What happens? What happens a guy like President Trump is you have to intellectually appeal to him that you are competent, and you can handle the thing. And once he knows that he'll Bella gate it to you in a Rolex what happens to these people? They go to have a press conference on Wednesday. No one stood up to that. Hey, you're to tire for that. You just did eleven campaign stops in eight days one you take a chill for a day. And why don't we do the press conference on Thursday before we leave for Europe? And so he's agitated he goes into the press room the guys being disrespectful to whatever you think of CASA was disrespectful and he wants to express pass. I think the whole thing is bad. Let's press a reset button. It's costing the president approval points of the war with the media twenty twenty run for Donald Trump people saying them it. So so each side, but Trump machine hasn't stopped rolling. Do you think he wants a twenty twenty? Of course, he's raised two hundred ten million dollars will have to billion dollars at the time that he's ready to run for reelection. He has Air Force One as blooming economy. So also, he's pretty tough fermentable character on a debate stage. And I'll say this to you and the person that runs against him while I'm an internationally recognized nickname for the rest of their lives. Okay. So he'll demolish the person that's running next to them. And so he'll win reelection. Hundred percent. Remember, the midterms are not even without the controls the Saranda Trump presidency. Think he really wants full is of this tussle on the people that say that he doesn't want it. They don't know him people don't give up the presidency in. If you're Lyndon Johnson. You're up against the war and Robert Kennedy. You give up the he's on Barish. But this guy's not giving up the presidency listens to now. I think he has a very good brain. You know, he's a very stable sort of genius in you know, that he's stable sort of genius. He listened to himself. It doesn't take advice. He takes people fly in and out. The way the way you give him advice. Okay. Is not traditional way that you give somebody advice you have to you have to appeal to the president's intellect by understanding where he's going directionally, and then suggested him that the outcome that he's predicting is not going to be the outcome. That's going to happen. Once he realizes that. You may be right about that outcome Esme, and he'll change his mind. If you go to bed on the democratic challenge who make it through them. I I don't know. But I think they're going to have ten possibly twelve. People running a Senator Warren's raise twenty million dollars. I think it would be unlikely to believe she's not going to run is. He that you'll vote. Bloomberg would be a formidable candidate one of the issues for mayor. Bloomberg is he'd have to win the nomination the Republican party already has their nominee. That's going to be Donald J Trump. The Democratic Party has moved very very far to the left, and my Bloomberg is a center right person on business, and he's fairly left leaning on social stuff may not be able to get the nomination. But if he got it with his money and his skill set and capability he'd be a tough competitor. You come back now to day, Joel and skybridge capital firm has announced multibillion investment fund for the president's Pachuca TS in the tax cuts and jobs the Genda in the act. There was reporting in this week's issue. Of course, you had to see says he's seasons. Don't always reflect the areas of greatest need. Look. I mean, I I understand the criticism of the tax plan. I understand that some of these areas are already gentrified because they're using the two thousand ten cents to establish what an opportunity zone is. And a lot of those areas already been improved by the economy, but the more broad point because the one thing about government is that they get things roughly, right? They never get them. Precisely right. And so there's eighty seven hundred opportunities owns and there's an opportunity to unleash one to three trillion dollars of capital into areas of the country that need the help any infrastructure help. They need commercial and residential real estate help. And so if you can take low basis stock that is now trading at a high value, and you can convince people to sell it and move it into an opportunities to advantage of the tax furrow and. Very good property management or business management. I think that's going to be unbelievably good for the United States. And it's an off balance sheet transaction the IRS would never receive that money. Anyway. So this is an opportunity to plow it into places that need it gave well read you like to bring in literary themes of with your positions of finance and politics and got speak. Right. Gots becomes up a number of times. You describe seeing this to Trump is great Gatsby when you first encountered him, and you run that theme with gets bans in a disaster, doesn't it an implosion that wasn't the intent of the book verse while the theme of Gatsby the town I grew up in on the water on the edge of the water. I grew up in the middle class area. But on the edge of the water that was east egg in the book. And so when you were in high school in my town on the public we had to read that book four times as I'm bringing up the book because it's an elemental story of the American dream. But the person Jay Gatsby. A very flawed figure does an affair is nature Gatsby in that book at the president really doesn't have. But if Trump has downfull what is it? Well, we all have deficits in our personalities, and so, you know, the the president's likely downfall is that he gets pigheaded when he is under assault. And so there's a way to defuse assault through Umer and self deprecation that John Kennedy understood Ronal Reagan, probably understood better, but the president would he's under assault. He is pigheaded politicians lied. I also I wanted to talk. You took my rake in the book, I think very well. But would it be Reagan didn't lie as much to law as much what he could do for his base as much as Donald Trump different times different era? He absolutely lie. Remember Eisenhower lied about the YouTube spy plane. He told everybody was a weather balloon than they pull Gary small measure national security and voted Eisenhower, which is poultry pull Francis. Gary powers out of this area prison come on. I mean, these guys lie they lie. Muna than they did before. No, the president. Does it as I said, he does it to get you upset you personally? He, you know, you're in a collection of people. But yes, you're probably one of the people that he enjoys getting upset and he's chief. Thank you very much joining I enjoy hope you like there's much as I did. And we want to hear what you think is Mr. Trump reedy the people's president. And what might a twenty twenty challenger learned from his popular style. Right to us radio to communist dot com. You can tweet us economist radio we love to hear from you. And if you haven't already subscribe, the first twelve issues just twelve dollars twelve pounds, if you to communists dot com slash radio. 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Anthony Scaramucci - Hedge funds make comeback

CATS Roundtable

04:13 min | 1 year ago

Anthony Scaramucci - Hedge funds make comeback

"Good Morning, America. This is the catch roundtable. John Katzman tedious here Sunday morning what happened last week? Well, I'll friend Anthony Scaramucci the mooch had a great event in Las Vegas, and my son was even then and on the phone with us is Anthony Scaramucci, how are you? I'm doing fantastic. But I I don't think I'm doing as well as John cats junior. John forget he's having a fantastic time your in laws Vegas. Okay. So I hope your wife's not mad at me may end up staying your. But but we had a great event is week. We had Nikki Haley, I invited chief of staff Kelly here, you know, obviously, you know, he fired from the White House. And I thought it was a great idea to to patch it up with him. And he was one of our keynote speakers I had the chance to interview on stage here. Michael Milkin was here just off the Milken conference of Dr Carson was here. I know you're close to Ben we are working with the government on these opportunities own projects and raising money for opportunities owns, but then also we brought Susan Rice. And we we brought Valerie Jarrett, you know, I mean, it's it's super important to make these things by partisan last couple of guys Adam mcraven, David portrays full as well even had Jeff Sessions. Yup. I brought attorney general sessions because I thought it was he hasn't made a lot of public remarks, and I joined the Trump campaign with him on the same day when he was the first Senator, you know, I in the Senate to actually endorse Donald J Trump is a candidate. So I thought that was important to get let let him have his voice that actually got streamed on MSNBC with governor Christie. So we we enjoy that as well. We did a couple of special sessions with the FBI on cyber and how to protect people of their credit cards and things like that on the cyber side. So so you remember Frank visit nano right from first data if he was here to David Bossie, Corey lemon downscale they came to talk about the president's strategy for re-election. But we also had I invited everyone of these democratic candidates because you know, I like to make this bipartisan and tolsey Gabbard from Hawaii actually accepted, the invitation and she's doing she cheat. She ended up doing. The small fundraiser on Friday. Tell me what the highlight of the event you considered a highlight quarantine highlight of the event that we have in Kashgar Haley team, and she really offered a prescription on policy solutions for infrastructure education industrial policy that seems very middle of the road and very bipartisan. And I think we're going to move away like fevers eventually flake in Washington, John will will be able to put your stuff together for the track. They with things the president's done by highlighting China. The people in the United States are starting to become aware that showing up as twenty five fifty and one hundred year plants where I what I think it could be hit in Washington. And so hopefully, the fear that funeral break that fever, and we'll move will move towards having real good policy people on I love embassador HALE and comments of framing that out how that could look over there. Next up five to ten years so very optimistic conference in you, should I ask your son about the Ferraris who's driving yesterday? You know, he's into quite the character. He's gonna be a great JAMES BOND. These addiction the future, thanks for telling me. And now, you're bigger than the Clinton foundation. How many you had thousands of people then we with two thousand people. There was a lot of fun. And you know, we're going to set it up next year over that gets you out here and get a radio podcast and radio booth. He'll get you blood test. That'd be lot sounds good anti scammers. Thank you for calling in from Los Vegas. And we'll talk to you again real soon. Oh, my my my desk got happy. Something town had you misses the cash roundtable, we write back.

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BuzzFeed cuts their podcasting team and closes the majority of their podcasts

podnews

02:00 min | 2 years ago

BuzzFeed cuts their podcasting team and closes the majority of their podcasts

"In Stockholm, Sweden, the latest pod news BuzzFeed has cut their podcasting team to focus on video the Wall Street Journal reports as a result of the changes. Most of buzzfeed's podcasts would be shutting down. The article says, and the cons do only affect a handful of BuzzFeed employees in last week, panoply shut its content division. Earlier, audible did similar. The mooch is making his way into podcasting digitally and Anthony Scaramucci producing podcast mooch and the MRs which will be exclusively available on enter combs, radio dot com platform. The Latin podcast awards have announced their nominations for this year's awards, Pacific content. Steve Pratt, discusses ways to make podcasts sharable on social media. He says, don't share the podcasts Australian TV news, channel, Sky News, Australia has signed a deal with kosten over entertainment for address presentation in the country. Does he John was reported to be made into a TV show in March. You can now watch the teases for the upcoming show on Bravo. Did you highlights why podcast companies are getting more into scripted shows? It's worth remembering says the article that scripted shows may track the headlines and the Hollywood produces, but known scripted still accounts for most of the podcasting. Universe is a new poll causing studio in Richmond, Virginia. In the US read amp was founded in part because comedian Joan, please who used to be funny wanted somewhere to record iheart, Radio, Australia is celebrating its fifth birthday. It claims Australia's largest podcast library. The brand is run by a RN in Australia, and similarly run by brokers networks in Canada, and New Zealand. And chorus. Radio has snapped up nights time a popular Canadian mystery podcast. The show is now on choruses curious, cast platform, and we'll be add on the company's global News Radio stations. Later in the air it claims. It's the first show to make it from podcast to broadcast for all the links anticipate crowd to a free daily newsletter, visit pod news dot net.

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EXCLUSIVE: A new entry in the Podtrac podcast charts - why it isn't all it seems

podnews

02:06 min | 8 months ago

EXCLUSIVE: A new entry in the Podtrac podcast charts - why it isn't all it seems

"The latest from our newsletter at Pod News Dot net track have published that top twenty. US podcast list for November. Two thousand nine hundred in the chart to new entries from American media. LLC US Weekly's hot. Hollywood is new. What number five? But today as an exclusive pot news can reveal that these numbers also include android users just visiting their website and never playing the podcast. At all you'll find our full reports in our show notes and our newsletter today Apple podcasts market share tumbled bolt by ten percent in two thousand nineteen. That's according to Paul Dean which has posted a podcast statistics and trends around up with all the numbers from the podcast hosting platform. The company has also posted number of top ten's based on their data triton digital has launched a new podcast rancor for Latin America it includes average weekly download numbers put the number one achieving eight hundred eighty six thousand downloads awake. Eric newsroom has thoughts on. Public Radio's parts to play in podcasting Austin public. Radio has a unique opportunity. He says to lead innovate and win. You'll find a link in our show notes and our newsletter today and a new version of pocket it cast is rolling out with easier access to episode notes and chapters customizable toolbar. A revamped up next list and a new indigo colored theme theme it's free for Ios and Android and advice. Today the podcast host goes into what a montage episode is and why you should create one and David Hooper asks. How do you get your podcast? On the radio. He shares some ideas from Jacob. Lewis pocus. Today let's make a poop with triumph. The insult Dell's comedy dog is a new podcast. From Lebron's team Coco the first episode stars among other People Anthony Scaramucci and there's plenty more a newsletter Hope News Dot net.

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The Mooch is a Mench, Pt 2! with Anthony Scaramucci

Dumb, Gay Politics

1:11:52 hr | 1 year ago

The Mooch is a Mench, Pt 2! with Anthony Scaramucci

"Hey guys i'm natasha channel from the kind dating podcasts were cool guests and i breakdown one dating topic per episode and try to figure out why the fuck do we all have commitment issues. We cover everything from how to slide in her d._m. Sex addiction to friends with benefits. Here's the dope guests like bollywood superstar sonny leoni comedian laura clary time person of the dear dr wendy walsh t._b. Writer therapist. We laugh a lot but we also get mad. Deep listening subscribe to kinda dating on your favorite podcast app or check us out at kind of dating dot dot com. It's all shit. It's all just i'm gay politics america's gotten but we're not gonna let it go down like that because we got dom gay podcast dumb political podcast. We probably don't have all the facts but we got opinion probably backtrack. That's too dumb gay podcast. Ask a dumb political podcast. It's all shit social. It's associate i mean i don't know i hear extreme i am extremely of the ship is the this shit is trump argue m._p. What lou everybody and welcome to dumb. I'm gay politics. I'm julie. I'm brandy and this is the podcast where we talk about politics like we're talking about reality t._v. Happy labor day and it was labor. That's the the sweet sounds of labor day appear in my in our voices yeah. Minding mine towns worse than yours. I don't you're so. I think mine does listen to me. That's the way i sound we're trying to go to are upper register. Instead of down where we belong mine would be you get back off. I mean we've been celebrating labor day all month. We've just begun on our self-imposed poor man's rehab which means we stay at our own homes and don't drink or do any drug right so we we are now moving into we go through you know we do cleanses and get sober and not and whatever so now we're onto what should would be a phase of health <hes> four to two. I should probably by a clinton's will we were talking about getting we're went. Oh no you talked talked about us doing the g._m. Diet i did because i said i think i might need cleanse after labor day weekend yeah and then and then we were talking about like what kind of cleanse and then i was like you know. Maybe i'll just do the jam diet again because that's technically a cleanse free 'cause read anyway. That's correct. The cleanse i'm talking about when we do is three weeks long that on of of that one so i wasn't really planning on two three week rehab but i do need something to facilitate and move along the toxin in my body the highway sixty seconds of your body yes <hes> because our idea of going sober yesterday was taking an opioid and i think i might have taken anthrax. You're wondering like why am i so and that was pretty tame. That wasn't drinking at least <hes> beers something day for like at least the summer so so well told everyone listen listen. We all have our we'll have our things i am. I mean i'm not you know i've been doing what i've been doing. Yeah so what you were in pain. I mean that was that was that was actually painted and i do have a prescription because they do manage pain. I do actually have pain listen. Many people abused the drugs they have prescriptions to that is true so we're getting back. We're little i would say this is the second day of the two-day hangover. Well we mailed a ton of shirts but we got like a few more orders which is pretty exciting. This is late patriots late and we did miss our bonus episode patriotic but we're going to super size our regular patriotic people that for the one dollars subscribers so now if you're thinking of joining this week might be a good week because we're gonna make that episode like doc probably two hours so that we're gonna make that super sized and join and you don't want to do two dollars dollars. Wanna just do one then you get a big big fat episode yeah. We're we're going to give the year. I didn't look to see what the sh shirts people ordered but <hes> this last the new three or four that we got in but we've been having a rash of lake doc a pop. No one knows i'm gay very popular very positive rested in cruise right because people do do a ma on instagram modeling when no one knows i'm gay and they do make them look very good and they instagram model drugs drugs looks great drugs all the now as we know uh-huh my friends if you listen you know that i have like multiple. I have multiple shirts because i wear them so much our shirts what's our our shirts. I've multiples murders so and i gotta tell you if you wear drugs into the supermarket. They love it comments such as hey which ones ends and you forget that you're wearing the shirt and you're like oh. You know what i mean. People like to comment on that and no one knows. I'm gay of course you'll get comments. That's the best one if you're if do you have a thirst for a stranger a reach out from a stranger a shout out from a stranger no-one knows them as the move right and drugs to your right but no one knows i'm gay. They're both probably better at night. I've learned because one of my favorite things other than people saying cuss words and songs things is wearing them so i have tons of shirts have one that says shut the fuck up. I have one that says fucking farrell right. <hes> i have a hat. It says i'm in mykonos bitch. I try to wear all those i try. I've learned not to wear them in the grocery store. Oh well you'll get a cost that i'm quite sure but also there's kids. There and i'm like i should just wear these at night. I that's true. That's a good point. <hes> knows i'm gay fine. If your kid doesn't know gay means than they need to go be smashed in the head but drugs. I try to keep more of a nighttime shirt. I cut mine into a half shirt. I'm like i'll just wear this to like nighttime. Events don't miss you can get away with anything because you have a sweet vibe and a baby face and so people are just like oh you know she's. She's got personal problems and also oh. I don't need your notes babe. That's when you can wear during the daytime all day and you know as i'll i i. We're that right into an audition does does anyone call outside of major notes bape. They don't write no one at least to me has called out but i have worn that two auditions and they will say something to that effect. You know what i mean yeah because that's rude. That's like working that to a job interview and being like take. I don't need this job bitch. Which you know is a personal delight so i i'm trying to think of anyone's ever been like i'm. I'm not giving you notes or will note sir. I can't think of anyone we'll are sure of just us our logo. Yes that's become <hes>. I'm everyone who's interested in having that. I think already owns it. Which is a good thing because we're really low on those and also what you guys were really low on. I don't need your notes babe yeah so i hope we're hoping hoping people develop a real strong interest in drug black drugs in white with a period and no one knows i'm gay yes right because the other ones are almost gone now. They're getting very low so if you're large just a standard large it's getting low yup. We have we have enough extra large and we have enough small right and we have a little more medium standard larger media marketing low and those but go to our website julie and brandy dot com look around. It's on like the shopping opping page or whatever and then we have our esteemed digital artist. Jennifer johnson has her own store with many more designs and many more sizes so look around see if you like it do some browsing zing listen. It's a new dawn. It's a new day. It's new from me to go on there and get yourself shirt. What about the patriotic momentum now the patriot if you're not a patriot member go to patriot dot com slash dumb gay politics you if you enjoy this podcast but don't wanna listen to politics than the patriots for you. We do not talk about politics. We do not talk about the patriot. We just talk about. I i mean we don't even talk about the t shirts on. They're no. We don't try and sell anything on there. That's what this podcast so. You know we just talk about whatever whatever i mean. We have talked about auditions. We talk about going on baath for up. We talk about go to the doctor who dog about whatever whatever anything anything we talk shit about people and it gets back to them not supposed to be private and we've all done true where we've said. Don't tell anyone somehow people always find out. We're talking shit that is true true and we've lost jobs lost friend we have we've created our homes. We we speaking. Oh my god thank you for reminding me that we created. We create songs song lots of songs so if you enjoy like a musical interlude this week's definitely gonna be song because we got nothing. I don't remember half of the things that happened while we were out the other half that happened could get us arrested correct. I don't want to implicate anyone else. Know any antique no antiquity dan integrity no integrity do not imply implicate anyone. Yeah integrity do not so you know. There's a lot going on on the patriot a lot and we've. I've gotten some messages recently from people who binge through the patriots which is a fun thing to do because you can really hear a lot. I don't even know that would the patriots at least if you're into a binge or if you're into a religion which l. many of us are the patriots way better for that than this. I think anyone could been into this. It would be like let me get back into immigration policy at no cares. No you want to listen to the time when whatever i kicked the doctor or whatever it is whatever whatever which i didn't even tell that story so yeah get on their patriots dot com slash dumb gay politics come so we have <hes> you can join for one dollar. You're for one episode two dollars for two episodes. That's how we have. It set up right now. I think i tunes is going to create a function based on purely just our podcast where you can fast forward the whole beginning in one shot because i know that this gets exhausting and annoying. We like it. <hes> we get to remind ourselves. Hey we have t shirts and they're cute and also we want to honor everyone. Who's who's ordering. We love you guys for doing that and that's right and listen. It's not like we're selling you a shirt that it says drugs. Don't you want that need that. Need your mom to wear that the night before thanksgiving while she's cooking right you're on drugs and that is so good scouring during the kitchen for the cooking wine mom you remember that time i like it. Okay that is such such a sight. I would like to see both my parents in that. That would be a site g._i. Your parents on are are they sure. Did they have the podcast shirt and i absolutely love it. I live for it. I think it's so cute. The shirt is scratchy so don't expect a standard concert t it's twenty five dollars with free shipping right so it'll l. Scratch you up julie. Lets the cat lay all over the box and shit. There's all white cat hair oliver wrinkled. Some of them look used and they probably aren. They're or not you know hard to keep track. They go from a box to our suitcase when we travel to julie's dirty clothes with this one time and and was setting up the shirts and d._c. She's like i found some underwear in there and i was like look at julian. She's like sorry man please and eh. She's like i know. I shoved him into zimmer. I just shoved him in. I was like those weren't mine and i think it was clear. They were mind they were enormous and it looks like men's boxer shorts pretty sure we know who they those. Were yeah well. You know listen. What can i say and also we just recently found my parents in their founder. There's my jeans. This is like organizing the shirts. There's my jeans and looking for these genes for the last two weeks. Let me tell you wanting to wear these stupid jeans. I want you guys to now. You could have julie esau. It's dumpling julie essence on it for you. Get it and you're like wait is the tag all wrinkled up makeup brandy randy on and who knows maybe i wore that shit. Maybe that's fake tanner on it. Who knows it's a treat. It's we're not a retail shop. We don't i mean we. We are a private industry. We love on personal people trying to and it's also just if you care the patriot is what pays for this podcast and and is basically keeping us alive so that's the importance of the patriots you know if we could go on shark tank we would but they're not. I know hey yes yes. We have nothing now. It's time for i've the shit store should take some shit putting up on the wall chicken poem bitch off of the washington good down on the floor in a glass bowl. She'd take some bucks and putting up on the wash. I do so i mean. I don't even want to say it 'cause it's so annoying and upsetting but there was is another shooting in texas and of course the strongest storm on the entire planet. That's happened. This year is bearing down on the southeast but it's tuesday after a holiday weekend and we have hangovers verse from hell so we decided the eye of the shit storm is trump firing his embryonic assistant because she got drunk and told the reporters that trump thinks his his daughter tiffany is fat and he doesn't even like her. This is true. This happened and it's really the only thing that has kept my guilt. Take that zanex and opioid. I took yesterday <hes> in my in my withdrawal anxiety. I've been basically going back from mike. Mamiya stressed out. How do i stay in the moment. It's like let's just think about tiffany and looks really let's just think about trump's assistant and how she also got drunk and ruined many many lives and relationships so you have to realize the scale on your feeling guilty in your town that you're in and maybe you blacked blacked out and showed your boobs to everyone swimming in the pool or maybe you offered leah's son to smoke a cigarette with you and then you shut shut the fridge and then she was standing there and i'm like i don't even smoke leah. I don't even smoke hey r._j. You wanna come smoke a cigarette with us. Legos fridge closes and leave standing there. I'm like just kidding just kidding so but hey at least i'm not madeleine wester out. That's that's right whose official title was the director of oval office. Operations motherfucker was the director of oval office operations at twenty eight. She worked as an aide to the republican national committee and worked on mitt romney's twenty twelve presidential campaign. She's from orange county so she was clearly raised republican yeah but that doesn't mean we don't still hate her for it and she was born with money which we definitely hate right twenty eight. You can know that you're not republican anymore. If you're raising a conservative household and fourteen where an amalgam hat listen i give a lot of those kids to pass their annoying and obnoxious but i'm like that's what your parents are into then. You're not getting any other influence or not right. Let me seek out other points of view now but at twenty eight bit you know mitt romney was wrong when you put the fucking dog on top of the car exactly and she apparently early they it's been seen or whatever at the republican national convention she cried when trump got the she's one of those people who you didn't like trump and now is working for trump. You know what i mean like. I cried when they saw her crying when he got the nomination because she's such a devote route republican born in the grass or yes. She's born in the ground no that that's what that is but you know like strong in the face like whatever that saying is like a die in the cloth republic it or you don't say no died in the off died in the wool all of that strong bush facing the grass all of it. She's all of those things republican ultimate yeah well. They said i heard it makes sense because they say she kept to herself. <hes> yet constantly instagram's sounds like life in the in the white house picks so she's basically a self indulgent millennial a thirst bucket but she wasn't it going around she wasn't hobnobbing or doing. She wasn't doing the hustle game with trump's you know bag of shit friends <hes> right. She was really just thirsting and bragging about working in the white house and being the director of oval office operations which who wouldn't but yet tried to keep a low profile file because she knows the minute he's done. They're all scarlet letter with the tea right yeah they are and apparently so she had and this yeah of course it's hours and hours of news pontificating about whether it was right or wrong for her to have an off the record meeting with a with a journalist. She wasn't supposed to do it but then other people say no. They all do it especially when they just all do that. Apparently there's well she was there with the head of communications like whoever is sarah huckabee doodoo is gone. I don't know if it's her replacement or that first deputy under her right so she was there with the head of communications so they were having dinner together with like new york times and i don't know who else and it was in new jersey right and they were covering trump's like vacation in new jersey. I'm like that shit is an hour away away from new york right. It's ridiculous but whatever they're covering his vacation. Will that guy the head of communications or whatever had to do do a thing with fox news so forty five minutes so there was like so he left after like two hours or an hour and a half he left assuming that the dinner was gonna then wrap bob right and he went to fox news. Now here goes madeline. I'm gonna assume they call her mattie or maybe she's just mad when she's drunk well. Apparently she's also what trump likes to call her as my beautiful for beauty oh well the release my beautiful beauty. I'm not gonna say she's beautiful beauty. I think she's got. She's got the attractiveness of youth on her side but i don't look at hurt. She certainly not as pretty as hope hicks not not on any level right. She's their loan now. She's obviously tipsy. She's been she's bored. She's with fucking. Nerds hasn't gotten to pull out her phone and instagram sell for the last two hours. She's in withdrawal israel withdraw. She's taken down glasses of wine like it's nobody's business. The dude leaves to go to fox walks. She's probably offended. She doesn't get to go or maybe she's glad because she's gonna get group there once he leaves. She thinks they've got her guard is down on right. He's not there to watch her right and so she and she's clearly braggadocious idiot and she says she fucks up and basically tells these other people who are now. Oh not even really a reporters is even feel like work anymore because now you've been this long dinner right. Her boss is gone. She might even feel like since the boss gone. The actual work portion of its over for well. She probably believes that when it's even if you're with a journalist and it's off the record in our becoming friends and we're friendly and we're drinking or having a good time i wonder i mean well and and so it's like we're going back and forth and it's just like we know from watching movies and television shows. You never tell journalists anything because they will always choose their work over your everyone friendship or whatever you're doing. Everyone will do that and it's about trump like you. You can't fucking talk shit about your boss's daughter everyone on the plane and can't do that and listen i would i do it. I would for sure up. Please get drug. Fuck up be like that could be literally be the dumbest thing if if it has been said that could literally be the dumbest thing any human beings ever done. I've done at drunk right right. It's like she thought she was being hilarious. Rightly and i always fuck up to try to be funny. We've done around here. Oh constantly yeah yeah. I mean we've gotten forgot to. We literally lost her writing agent so yes. Yes yes yes. It's she was trying to be hilarious. Sh it also. It's almost like no shit. No shit okay no fucking shit. Everybody knows trump doesn't care about tiffany. Everybody knows tiffany and her bug eyes or does annoying and that he's got something. Whatever went down with marla maples her mom like it didn't it wasn't like it ended with avant avant was like i'm going to continue to take money and i am actually actually goes first lady. I go to pay a love it like she's still involved. She sucked up. She took the rape charges away. She's like please. I don't think marla maples is getting anything. Marla maples was like she gets her and trump got together and his like little l._a. When he had a little a brief period of his life where he was feeling his l._a. Groping actresses period before everyone in l._a. Was like we're playing around with us so he's stuck to his beauty queens and the people on the east coast who didn't know the deal you wanna layer. I mean honestly you've been groped by harvey weinstein at this point or not putting up with it from trump but he stayed on the east coast. Marla maples tiffany stayed on the west coast. We rarely saw her. Even stupid ass. Fuck and apprentice shot on in new york so yeah they never and marla wasn't going to be. You know marlon things to do she couldn't they wanted to live that l._a. Lifestyle marlow wanted to be a a actress star to and she tried to get on you know. She tried to co host the view. She tried to get shows. She has her own wonderful podcast. Tiffany even did a music career so he got elected elected and now she's trying to get serious. She's so this chick madeline like. I said it's twenty eight. Tiffany is twenty-five she's in law school georgetown. <hes> and i want you to know yeah. She sent out an instagram because twitter's prop. She doesn't even have twitter okay. She doesn't know that she's in law school. She needs to go out and get twitter and get off the fucking instagram so she instagram'd a picture of a poem from rumi like a and it said tiffany trumka said study me as much as you like you will never know me for. I differ a hundred ways from what you see me to be. Put yourself behind my eyes and see me as i see myself because i have chosen to dwell l. in a place. You can't see i mean with all due roomy. It's a lot of contradictions in one stanza. I mean it's just like i can't me but don't couldn't myself. Even though i dwell you can't see me walking with feet is like walking without without feet one way walk in fly into the air air an air of which you have never gift if you breathe this air the air of which you breathe is much like the air i have breath but the breath we breathed together. The other is much like the breath that eagle has said through the air and has only flapped with its wing. I like where you took it there. You went off on a he went into an eagle. I liked it. I'm not i know people like to quote rumi a lot and i find it to be pretentious and tragic. Yes uh fuck out of my face. I don't wanna see anyone. I don't care and i know many of you have done this and don't you get pissy at me you tons of spicy fucking food. You better look look in the mirror and know this don't be going on social media trying to get deep with a poem okay but dylan. Thomas will fucking slap you across the face if it's like don't joke get deep on a in a shallow medium. How about that how old get deep in a shallow media. Oh wait. I'm writing of that. Yes that's the reason it's ridiculous. That's fine you love poetry. Love it. Don't be going on instagram trying to act like you're so goddamn artistic de study me and my selfie as much the right you will never know me or the lighting i take myself. I differ a hundred ways from what see myself he might be for. It is when you view scroll you scroll hundreds and thousands you may like me but it is merely a button being pressed a button. Being pressed is not my heart my heart. My soul is inside my actual body. My body is not by itself e myself. It is merely a reflection of society. Ooh that was good. Were you at that point. I wasn't sure if it was more of like like what's called. When you say poetry spoken word yet i it was spoken but then i thought it's not spoken word. She's actually doing high coups news. Which is why there was breaks in the words. I was just trying to give it some drama. You know what i mean. Poetical drama. I think not spoken word to be because in high kuzina house to go under i never understood like with haiku gets three three five or something or five five to either can't or like even the shakespearean rian amateur tobacco just hammer which apparently romeo and juliet completely in the whole entire thing so i just can't however no one can i need to do this would indulge me okay. Tiffany trump is as we can see. She's feeling she's getting spiritual. She's finding roomy. She's on instagram. Just like you know spiritualize yourself fees but before all of this happened one of our favorite she did and we'd like to play this for you now. Because madeleine western hyphen can become as hard as she wants but has she ever ever done this. This made about a dollar forty five on. I think from you because we we love it. Don't own hade. Maybe this is why i thought of eagle because the song is like a bird violettes. We like it. You forget about the party eggs. It's almost like she's singing through a bullhorn from another room. It's almost like it's a different person thought about sheena looking for vander pomp and what went tiffany do everyone was like tiff. Get on the bar and senior one song go now. What do i do because that was put through so many voice activators. How could you possibly everything is it makes me she talks. She was return. Fishing never really let you it's funny. The words like a bird over and over remind me of bird pecking is out. They want it to be like assistant. Distant like a bird yeah 'cause she looks like a bird and birds are so nervous right and they'll kill you or the fly fly fly away fly about but that wasn't about being a burden that was just about flat fine. Ooh remembered you came in and we never get this bird to fly like nana bird word lack of eagles birds'd. Chick cherokee is not a bird definitely produce this oh oh for sure. I took ten thousand from trump song but i put myself on it of course d._j. Calix third third cousin yeah d._j. Yeah i hate women too but i use them to flee her voices so far away that i can't even understand one word not one word. There's absolutely no texture into a can yeah. You know what i mean yeah. It's like she talks in canada to gold and bucket. What's it called auto beyond a can go that far away and the new auto tune. Can you even speak. Maybe maybe maybe she'll make sounds. They just tune it up like she's like he and they changed. When you listen to those you watch a youtube video with a robot and you know someone typed in what the robot what should say oh yes like that someone typed this into a two can voice so say whatever you want like if you say you right right right right say how much time we have exactly what i don't do you feel okay. Do you feel sorry for tiff amount not because she has round eisen isn't weird looking because i do feel sorry that she's because i feel like they're all even though they're so sinister and demon ask particularly obviously avangard attractive baroness getting so cute of nine hundred feet tall. He's the best looking all of them. I think but why is tiffany homely marla maples isn't homely trump is donald trump created all these children <hes>. I don't think there's anything she can do well. There's you know i mean she's got. I guess it's i don't know if it's the mouth region <unk>. Trump does have that unfortunate mouth in aac leg. Vonk doesn't have of it. I think it's her is what's her eyes but she has gained a couple pounds of the thing that which is fine. She doesn't even look bigger anything. What's the problem. Is that what she chose to wear. Whatever last thing they all went together as a family you know where it was. It was so embarrassing. This is why he's embarrassed. I was embarrassed to oh why it was at the fucking. An england with the queen they go with the queen and tiffany is in the dumbest outfit and it's already embarrassing. It's like the clown family is going to see the queen of england like don't embarrass us in front of the queen of england like it's both it's both but the mouth is just like the rest of her mouth. What does it like you bunka yeah. The bottom of the half of the face looks like don jr. and a vodka and trump when he was younger trump's trump's d._n._a. A ruins every human being physically because marla maples is an attractive woman. Yeah and malania is a is a is pretty. I mean you know there interactive women so his sperm or whatever i ivanka ugly though i don't think is ugly than his sperm can't ruin every not ought to work on it. She had to get surgery well. My question is what can tiffany do 'cause go ahead and get the surgery. Then what can tiffany do. I don't think so yeah. I guess you could try no job. I don't know i mean i don't. I don't get a nose job lightly because i really go south but anyway. That's what this whole thing is about an. I'm right there because i know i was embarrassed when they went to meet the queen of england and as much as i want to say i don't fucking care what you think. I did you because i love love love england yeah i will. I don't want anyone embarrassing us there. He rolled up there with nine thousand fucking kids night night from nine thousand women and there's tiffany and she's in some furry sh- radic install or whatever it was and she just looked so garish and they're already such a garish family but she was the sore throat and i know trump and i'm sure it was ivanka that came over and said i'm so embarrassed about tiffany see what she's wearing an ivanka influences every single thing trump says right so if she decides tiffany's embarrassment and she's embarrassed trump decides she's here's my idea. I've just decided that that what could happen i so i i think that <hes> if her okay imagine tiffany no matter how much weight she gains no matter whatever if her style of she she was the one kid who was cool if she if she got if she went on over to i don't know like have stirred depot and was like yes. I'm unattractive unattractive but i play it up by wearing jeans up to my boobs and we're crap or whatever the thing is like but i'm gonna look cool. I'm gonna i'm artsy. I'm cool. Fuck you this family family. I'm going to go but like i don't believe in the shed and i'm not like if she was cool right. That's not in her heart also she's not she's completely on cool all right well right luanda's upset done yeah exactly don't be so cool yay if i came downstairs and they were like tiff lake aac. Did you care that like that. Guy was married or whatever and she goes. We're not really and then she goes. Mobs equal won't be cool. It'll be so don't be so cool yeah if she could be like that. I have a feeling everyone would be right there. That's not realistic. I know but i think you're right. I want i urge you guys. I know i now now. No it just hit me a ton of bricks. I now know this all came. She's an tiffany did say she. She rarely sees any of them. Oh yeah this isn't a relationship and now the family function she attended she fell extremely unwelcome and so that's where this all stemmed from from the assistant got drunk yup and let everyone know that <hes> that that that trump was embarrassed and so is the whole family lee and it was evident and i feel for her because she is unwelcome and the only thing she can do is just with her mom and be like i don't care about any of them yeah and what she doesn't because she is so incredibly uncle. You should find lou ansong friend friend zone. Wait friend coco what she could do is exactly what ma'am you said which is be like. I'm not fucking down any of that. In america would embrace her embracing her that would naturally make her cool because designers would go after her and marc jacobs people. Tom ford they'd be like because tom ford was like i will not touch milania with a ten foot pole. I am not trying to get hooker occurred use on me and one yup and i know that if she if she was like i'm absolutely done with von a- ivanka don jr. eric milania and the whole lot of them. I'm done with his sister who was on the new york supreme court or an appellate judge also shanty. Don't my a aunt my aunt donald trump. I'm done with all done. It's me in marla her and marlow would become oh my god like beyond and they would get get cool because like i said everyone would embrace them and that's what she should do because what happens is all of them are going to be pariahs of society of mark my fucking word. Do you think nixon people were like hey nixon yell. Let's go to a no no no. I'm not funny. Oh she could have the life man if she just was cool like lou ann said but that she's not clo- yeah don't be so. We also love this song in the end to the gods. This is our best song and it's so under appreciated agreed be at least she's singing in the same room. She strike via. Hey we memorize memorize the whole dance. They didn't watch what happens. Live was with chefs kiss. Hey jeff chefs joke dollar tip yup. Don't be so uncooperative. I gotta let you go and america's. Let you go but you could get america back. If you were cool do do it to do it. We'll support you. I feel like whenever we start things off like for example mitch mcconnell. It goes into the zeitgeist so we're putting out there. Grab it from rabbit tip. You can have it all you don't need them and she's not close with them anyway. They want even an ambitious calculated violated move of how do i get america. It's honoring the truth. Which is your not close with them. They were jack. You be like you know what i'm not even down with it. Fucking dead marla recode your mom marla should you could go fucking malu and the tribes because they are going to be pariahs. They are they're going to jail. They don't be so cool to go tiff. I want to say no not yeah. You broke the girl scouts yeah. Let's go get a chance youtube. It here comes the sweets zack's. <hes> everybody especially you the cause not really not really that's instead of not really it's not really so many wonderful ways to say not really yeah yup not really not really don't care don't care that he was married louis not really. I'm telling you think thank mugger standing. Yes not really it was the peak the peak peak peak and you know what lou and went on to fully we sacrifice her dignity and her sobriety for that show and we commend her yeah. We don't even watch it anymore. No well that's the deal i'm glad we solved the mystery <hes> and the enigma of what could be if tiffany trump's life and with all of us. We all need to understand if you go with your authentic truth and you don't thirsts bucket after your dad who doesn't care about you. Your life will open up to you. Remember what you said earlier. Don't deep in a shallow medium. Okay i don't get deep and you know what not and trump is a shallow medium so and he keeps trying to get a member of that and he's never gonna get deep. You can have have have your shallowness shallowness but you don't have to be shallow tiff. You can take your bird and you can fly fly deep into your soul okay. Let's continue continue talking about how trump is a douche bag with one of our very favorite people. Let's change that you want. How you're going to <music> business <music>. You can smell my feet. They haven't stop sweating all summer. They have <music> hi. This is anthony scaramucci. I can't make it to phone right now. He's not exactly the mailbox is full and cannot accept any messages at this time goodbye classic move classic move. Should i call him back jack. Should we bug on no. Should we give it like a minute gas but i wonder how call back or maybe he'll call us another day. We probably won't even use those mooney. I've time okay. Let's see which i do it one more time. Okay it's not an exact science tried again lurk va lurk. He doesn't have my number. He has has your number saved in the cell phone. You know might be screening that ship navy tax trying to home now <music> yeah. That's gonna save tax all have sweating. Get botox on the whole bottom mike do it. I've developed foot sweating condition. I think it's about stress. Hey it's anthony economic doc maher. He's he's gonna lounge. The mailbox is full and cannot accelerate messages at this time goodbye slightly but hurt my scott. My call has been ace screened n. B. cannot have a voicemail attached to it. They porce what anthony is running slightly behind. Can you call him closer to five fifty hoops literally literally anthony's like get these fucking goodbye all right. This is our segment called off limits where we talk to an influencer or an activist or just someone we love about something that is usually considered off limits politics. Today we're going off limits again with one of our favorite people and favorite guests but this time time he is in such a different head space. It's almost like we've never even interviewed him. That said we are going to recycle most of his original intro because is related and also it was good exactly so here it goes. This guy is the trump game changer. If this were conversation about bravo stars he he would be equivalent to us talking to erica jane or a lala in the grand scheme he showed up somewhat linked to the trump party but his impact has been significant and you're sleeping sleeping. If you ignore what he's bringing to the table especially lately so with the election around the corner it is crucial right now to bridge the divide that is separating america erica into two sides and even though we believe that donald trump is responsible for widening this divide we are seriously hoping that are handsome guest today has the map apt to the middle ground even though his job in the white house didn't last two weeks he is one of the most memorable people to work in the trump administration he smart and good-looking he's outspoken and well-spoken well-spoken. He's a rich and he became america's sweetheart last week when he told chris cuomo that trump is insane and should be removed from office. Please welcome our good good good friend. I mean he's like a brother to husband. Were literally family like you were going to if you're going to start started out good looking at him. I would've said trump was insane a year ago. You forgot then because we did say yeah. We definitely okay well. That's it's very nice. It's good to be back on and we love that. You have made us beneficiaries in your will. Thanks deandra. You know what i mean like. We are so flattered beneficiaries we we didn't with five kids get their social security numbers our relationship as we've under house away brad mielke the boy yeah we met right. We were sitting on the plane. That was bats also generous. I went up to you because i said oh my god i was like i there's talking doc. Anthony scaramucci and i was walking to coach your first class. I just went up to you and i don't ever do that as you do not do that and i just. I am very flattered that you did that. And of course i accept that the podcast and now you guys are great and we probably agree on a lot and disagree on a little but i mean the end of the day we're all americans so we have a major problem going on and you're someone that everyone loved regardless of your trump like loyalty. You're just someone that you win. People over people love you. You're charming your hands. Now what happened like we need to give us the time timeline. We know we never even asked about gun control last time you kind of hinted a little bit of that like there was a little racist things that bothered you last time you're you're. You're calm and in the middle about it. You're giving like you know he's. He winks at you. The lies embellishments the storytelling his fine. You know he's a showman. He's a salesman but i definitely i've been pretty consistent on the racist stuff. Though you know that said said if you go back and look at video tape of my interviews things i broke from in a lot of different things i guess the problem is is that when you're trying to be a loyal person person and some of the things he's doing like that. You know some of the pro market forces and things like that. You're like okay <hes> 'cause. I'm basically a centre-left person jason as it relates to social politics and i'm probably a center center right person has released the business so you know for me <hes> we we can't and find a person that sits that from a political perspective where either akkad doodle to lifetime business <hes> and that's married to the social stuff or we're too far to the right on business for that matter and it's married to light the crazy stuff like the fifteens and all that sort of nonsense but you know for me <hes>. I've liked to say this to people that if you if you agree with somebody nine out of twelve times mayor koch said re with me nine out of twelve times. Please vote for me. If you agree with me twelve at twelve times you need a goddamn psychiatrist. Meaning like who the hell agrees with each other that much so unfortunately with trump what we've discovered covered is he's a fobel demagogue and so if you don't agree with every single thing that he says he is big time bully and he tried to bully me and then you probably saw this twitter feed you went after my wife. We never saw that. What did he do you. If you go back to last monday tuesday he was attacking attacking me on his twitter feed on saturday night. I responded and said that the guys joke loser in a bully and then <hes> he came after me again because i want when atom very hard and a couple of interviews dick leon on c._n._n. Where i was just literally of this rating them from chris cuomo we saw that we did hear america's sweetheart john on the chair america's sweetheart out everyone living living for that chris cuomo living no but the point is enough is enough. The guy is complete complete and total nutcase. He's coming after me on his twitter few total projecting by him. He's calling me nervous. Neurotic nutcase look at him sweating like a pig pigott bt seven and rambling like a maniac. I mean you know this guy is projecting on our podcast you you were like about charlottesville and stuff. You were yours critical. I mean you weren't like obviously you weren't being rude and i didn't think you were even being really rude about el paso i thought you were just keeping it real and being like yeah it was it was inappropriate. Appropriated didn't fit what a president should do and that's how you were about charlottesville so i don't really get why why was that the straw that camel's back because i i do feel like you have always been <hes> slightly critical at least how how he's approached social issues and yeah race quite frankly i. I broke for charlottesville. I've broken on the child separation ration- policy. I denounced his rhetoric related to the intelligence agencies when he's standing up there applauding vladimir putin putin and then going after our intelligence agents. I also wrote an op ed which you guys may not have seen it was in the hill and the title of it was mr president. Press is not the enemy of the people i don't. I don't believe that and so i think i think it's a combination of things to be honest. I think the first thing is is poll. Numbers are sinking <hes> very very precipitously the the economy is not doing well and the president being the bully that he is. He's worried about guys like me. He thought he could hit me. A few times on the on the twitter later feed in that would beat me into submission and then that would create the fear and intimidation necessary to continue to have other people be silenced by the president. Ah so you know you guys are not stupid and you probably have sources in and around washington and second most people hate. This guy's guts. Yes the people inside the white house. Aide is god's nervous of their dividend by them and so they they don't say anything and so now. Are you hardy that lindsey graham's going to do like a poison glory hall for you or like a poison door. I mean you know i think i think lindsey graham unfortunately as twisted himself into a personal pretzel of the president's graham or their next stop is like opening <unk> all i don't. I don't see how you can it is with the press. Is you want you to district out your integrity your personal his wants you to say things that are loyal loyal to him even though he knows and he's like laughing to himself <hes> you know he says he raised folks about these congresswomen and then he enjoys watching you dance at the kabuki theater lights twitching pretending that they weren't racist truth and so you know it's absolutely disgusting. What are you are. You sad that you guys aren't friends or you. Don't care you gotta be kinda bummed out. You know like you're in a fight with your friend. That's going on with the with the america compa. I mean if you're if you're really self-aware person. You know a couple of things about your relationship with mr trump. Here's your friends with you know. It's a it's a one way race with him. It's it's very symmetrical. <hes> there's no real. Have you ever had a fully normal conversation. The three of us are having more of a take on on this phone. Call then in the decade in mr trump so me. I think you're you're wear that. It's a weird relationship egypt. He's mumbling stumbling to himself while he's talking really engaging with any god and i think this is real danger now that it's getting worse worse and worse and so the point i was making a chris. You can't go five years more with this sort of not set so so what political stripe is whatever your political persuasion. We have to rally together and figure out a way this guy because you you you know where you're going to live. Five years pocketed himself southlake and what does that mean for you. Does that mean that you would vote for a republican running against him. Will you vote for elizabeth warren. Are you like into bernie now. What what are we dealing with. You know listen. I'm not i'm not gonna. I'm not gonna say yet because i don't like answering hypotheticals <hes>. I don't like <hes> senator warren's agenda. I certainly don't don't like bernie. Sanders is agenda. I am a republican. I would love to see a more moderate republican that could open the tent of the republican can party and more embracing of the gay marriage movement as i have been some of my republican friends that our business leaders <hes>. It's just a weird thing with the republicans. You know like most politicians <unk>. A lot of money comes from these evangelical. 's most of them are closet gays. I mean you guys know that right. I mean yeah no no. It's happening is they tried to get all nasty meaning homophobic when in fact they're masking their own personal sexual sexual orientation but they just can't overcome with a perceived to be a social stigma to so so the more openness we have about it and the more comfort and the more space we allow people to just live their true selves the pattern happier the society is going to be. Has your business suffered. How's the hedge fund. Have you been offered like democratic act like have democrats come and offer jobs what's been happening because this is pretty crazy. We've seen young. We're excited for you. Say i think that <hes> getting into politics hurts business. I think mike michael jordan had a great line when he was selling sneakers for nike they ask them that. He was a democrat or republican. No comment democrats republicans both by sneakers so i'm sure i've lost a share of clients who have disdained for president. Live in trump is said okay. I'm gonna put my money and i'm sure i have people that liked. President trump that now realize is it. Hey i can't take this guy anymore. He's coming nut job. You know <hes> i'm done with the guy were they'd probably taking their money to so my mice i i was i was on the phone without peter nichols who nicholas who's the he covers the white house for the atlantic and he says well your detractors the spin meisters forty seven. You're you're only doing this for velocity early. Relevance will get a lot of publicity. I need this sort of publicity like a hole in my head because i've got democrats mad at me that i was was was supporting president trump now republicans that i'm not and so you know in other words if i was gonna come up with a strategy to piss everybody off the executed you know what i mean so so so the point being is sort of a pussy but i care about the country i think the guy accident despicable manner <hes> and and i think again style wise unfortunately from the american presidency style matters i you know when you're grading american president. Some of it is related to the bully pulpit and some of it's related to how they handle themselves as a leader. Ah what i would tell you guys you know we can survive a recession. I mean we've had twelve of them. Since nineteen eighty-one recessions like a bone break they suck but but you heal and you go forward but you're not gonna survive is a raving racist lunatic that is espousing social division jin racial hatred and trying to rip up and tear up the fabric of the society <hes> i don't. I don't think we survived that. That's like a cancer. That's a metastatic cancer sir where terminate the patient gun controls the line for me. Do you have thoughts on gun control or do you stand anywhere on probably on gun gun control where most normal people i studied. The constitution took constitutional law when i was law school and i believe that people have the the right to bear arms normal people remember. I told you guys this. Last time i grew up my dad was from northeastern pennsylvania's and hunter and fisherman this whole life. I grew up with guns in the house my entire life. I'm comfortable shooting a gun and a dismantling and cleaning a gun <hes> but i think guns are for normal people four thirty four abnormal people virgin i don't. I don't want to take any gun away from somebody. That's using it for recreational purposes persists or for you know what the second man was intended for having said bat i think there has to be limits and guns should not be for abnormal normal people and so we don't have universal background checks and the fact that we have military style guns that are blowing grapefruit sized holes into a young students in high schools. I find that to be absolutely reprehensible and so you know i'm for a propitious amount on a gun control sure i second. It's totally fine. Are you going to either run yourself. Are you going to are you forming some kind of committee or something to change the republic dot com warming a political action committee. I've contacted about one hundred sixty republicans. C._e._o.'s that i'm close to some of them are very afraid of trump so they won't move if many of them don't care anymore. Trump is very very bad for business business. <hes> you know there's is his style his rhetoric the way he hates on people. It's just not good. Not good for your karma is not good for business. I'm i'm gonna be forming a political action committee of people who cannot stand him but would like to stay in the republican party and would like to have have a restatement of the republican party values and also you know our social moderates that want to see the party opened up its tent and be a little bit more liberal. You know the tea party. There'd be like a rockefeller republican group this way on c._e._o.'s can come in there and have have some standing and feel good about themselves. <hes> i'm not planning on running myself <hes> i think we need an experienced politician <hes> i i don't i don't i don't. I don't think the president has been well served. Being this inexperienced think the you know. He thinks he's so smart. As over the pitches are going right over his head. He's he's throwing pitches that are going over the backstop so so to me. I would prefer to have experienced politician but i will say this. You guys we need somebody. That's gonna be post-partisan president our next president trump but if it some radical left leaning person that'll that'll be equally damaging. We need somebody that's kinda. Step back and look at things and say okay forget about left and former policy but what about right and wrong you know and and just look at something that's the right way to handle it you know and even if it comes from the left right way to handle it owed by the way this comes from the right and it's a promotion the free market economics that can help lift people out of poverty. Well guess what that's the right way to handle it so sue me. I'm hoping that this discussion discussion will end the craziness that we're seeing now in the white kayce full blown crazy. Go take a look at the transcript from yesterday's press converse with the president macron before you go. We know you have to go. Watch them on big brother because we love you. Obviously you're our brother from another other mother. Beneficiaries wills and all that bad gave you my wife's phone was. I don't want you to hit on her definitely gonna do that was unfortunate fortunate to us going ahead on your daughter okay but what was big brother like ready. Was that just bullshit that we can get by that. We can easily now. What was he regulation regulation deregulation okay. Do you want to tell us about big brother at adderall. It was still fun well. Here's what i would say that big brother i got all of these nudie intellectuals i live with in the hedge fund community or investment investment banking and they think the whole all your doubts for the people i was that governor romney's event. I'm not gonna mention. The person asked me the question. Like what the hell are you doing on on big brother and i was like okay. Hold on a second <hes> you know we're our third decade or reality television pin whether or not you think you're smarter than it. It does affect us. I guess last time i checked you have a reality so so that's eight william people and we love it. Love you left. Oh my god we were so mad when you left so i couldn't stay trapped in the house for twenty eight days but i have met a lot of really interesting and what i would tell you. If you get a chance to do something like that. You gotta try it you. You don't have to be an intellectual snob do it. You know we love you. Tell our fourteen listeners where they control you and hit on you and i'm at scare mucci. My wife and i do a podcast podcast called <unk>. That's also atlas in the missus on instagram twitter and she's star that show i mean she comes at me. <hes> pretty hard on that show a lot of fun and so <hes> and you know we we. We have a lot of collusion no obstruction. That's how good relations yeah. Thanks so much the collusion very little on the obstruction okay guys. We're all thank you so much. We're gonna call. We'll talk to really love you and thank you. Thank you thank you now. It's time for so there's that this part of the show where i give julie the task of finding one positive thing in and around all of the scary bad news that is happening every single second the strongest storm anywhere on the planet this year here is bearing down on the southeast coast. Another one is brewing in the gulf of mexico. There was another shooting in texas but jewish still has to find something out there for us all feel good. What about okay miami. How did you find anything i did. What is your so. There's that moment so i am. We're it's pretty short goes. It's we're overtime anyway. Okay great great. Basically it's just this a lot of freaking out because of the supreme court. We feel that r._p._g. Is gonna die soon and then ruth bader ginsburg ruth bader ginsburg follow the gators. The gator is going to die because she you know she's ninety and she's got has been battling cancer and all the shins she had to take a break and she we see her and and she looks so frail and she's hunched over. She's wearing gloves. She falls asleep and it's like what is going on. She's got her. She's wearing. There's no hands in them. There's little bones yeah it. It does baggy white gloves. Can't they gloves at fetter gloves. Get her get her dog loves. Dogs exactly so you know it's stressful because of trump and of course as we know mitch mcconnell is a liar and a hypocrite and unfortunately even if trump were to nominate if she would leave trump open nominate someone mitch mcconnell would allow it to go forward even though he didn't let that happen for barack obama in his last year of his presidency so we know that this would happen with the well. The gay tour came out the gate tower came out and said. I'm not going anywhere okay. The bitch is determined to literally die sitting on the bench. You're going to have to pry those cold dead hand. You are car right off that gavel exactly so i excuse me she's eighty six so god she's only eighty eighty six so honestly eighty six is like the new seventies the exact so but she's sick so it's you know what i mean. However she's beaten cancer now she in ramesh your once twice they found more and more right sh one she tells a story that one of the <hes> i guess justice john paul stevens was <hes> supreme court and died at the age of ninety nine and she recounted a little story because she's oh she's only on a speaking tour the last few months now letting everyone know she's alive. She's well. She's not going anywhere and she's gonna continue to stay on this court. She said that he died when he was ninety nine and she recounts little story and she says <hes> justice stevens. I want to be on the court as one live as long because you did. I want to stay on the court as long as you did and he said to her stay longer. He was ninety nine so everyone loves the big the gator and she just wanted to say that the my feeling is with <hes> hurricanes and storms and tiffany trump and trump in general and everything that's going on. 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Scaramucci calls Trump Trumpnobyl, says hes melting down

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Scaramucci calls Trump Trumpnobyl, says hes melting down

"So somebody somebody added to it. I am the jobs in one. Somebody buddy had to do it. So i'm taking on china. You vote for democrat. You're being very disloyal to jewish people and you're being very this loyal. The israel and only weak people would say anything other than that president obama and others brought the families apart but i'm the one that kept the families families together. I thought that the prime minister statement that it was absurd that was it it was an absurd idea was nasty. You don't talk to the united states that way at least shown to me. Well good morning and welcome to a._m. Joy i am back from vacation with a brand new hairdo but it seems that we are still dealing with the same. They won't crazy how crazy you ask okay. This is going to seem weird as a t._v. Thing but i want you to do something for me. Okay i want you to close your eyes. Close your eyes and picture this ready ready. Okay you're on an airplane. You're getting ready to take off and the last thing you hear over the speaker over the loudspeaker before the pilot takes off is i am the king of israel what we go through your mind now picture that you are about to go into surgery and just before the senate is kid. Did you hear the surgeon say. Don't worry everything will be fine. I am the next coming of god or let's say you're in a boardroom and the c._e._o. Of the company that you work for calls himself the chosen one. How long exactly would it take you to quit okay. You can open your eyes again. I've scared you enough as james follows wrote in a great piece this week in the atlantic. If donald trump was in virtually any other position of responsibility his increasingly deranged outbursts would be grounds for removal approval quote the board at a public company would have replaced him outright or arranged discreet shift out of power the chain of command at the navy or an an airline or in the hospital would least call a timeout and check his fitness before putting him back on the bridge or in the cockpit or in the operating room. Let's be clear donald trump has been saying strange racist narcissistic things for a really long time he said outrageous things literally almost every day since he started running for president and since being sworn in but something seemed to come unhinged in trump this week and it happened simultaneously with some troubling economic news namely the indications occasions that we might be on the brink of a recession caused not in small part by trump's decision to launch a trade war with china and staying on brand trump made things worse with with more weird pronouncements friday the stock market plummeted after trump attacked his own venture as an enemy tweeted that he was here by ordering american companies to stop doing business with china like he's kim jong un and not the president of the united states trump's outlandish behavior felt like a panic attack by a president whose approval oval ratings are dropping along with his reelection prospects. His approval rating now stands just thirty six percent for the latest people and with the seeming shift in his prospects a few trump loyalists are starting to cash out on the donald including my first guest today joining me now is former white house communications director and longtime trump associate anthony scaramucci scaramucci welcome to the show. Mr virginia's her first time on the shows. I want to welcome you first of all you can. You can call me anthony joy. It's yes it's good to be here and by the way used to troll me by the way so i'll give you high marks for your twitter trolling but maybe you well you know rick wilson and fight on twitter as well so fighting with me on twitter is like the best way to get eventually booked on the a._m. Joe so that's literally the way it works yeah. No it's all it's all good. I mean we have to come. I'm together now because this is a serious national and international crisis and so you just want to restate and emphasize to your viewers he he tweeted we did yesterday the president xi the president of china and jerome powell which one is a greater enemy to the united states okay. We can't have somebody running the free world representing resenting us at the g seven and organizing the government. Who's acting like this so james follows. I'm surprised mitch mcconnell kevin mccarthy. I'm surprised these guys have not come out yet but i do predict that that will happen because this is a this is a descent into madness and i said this two weeks ago the jonathan swan. It's trump noble. Were in the first couple of episodes of the h._b._o. Series he's melting down. They're trying to figure out if they can cover covered up or they have to clean it up and now we're moving into cleanup mode so i'm optimistic about that. You're okay. Let let let me just stop you right there. Because you wrote an op ed which i have here that was run on by the washington post in which you copped to the fact that you supported donald trump for a long time you supported his election. You worked for him for about ten days before fire you and you talked about the fact that you had private reticence about some of his behavior but that you thought that donald trump is president would be good for wage growth good for business. Here's my question donald trump way before now has said that europe is the enemy he has said that our for our allies people that the united states has been allies with since world war to our enemy. He is made friends with kim jong own. He has cuddled up to the kremlin. He repeatedly has tried to say that. Russia should be back at the g seven become the g eight and allow russia in he is essentially been a toady for almost every dictator on the planet. Why now what what's the charlottesville saying good people among the nazis. Why now would you suddenly say that. He's unhinged and falling apart. He's been the same way for for years. Okay and i accept all that criticism. I do write in that op ed that you're referencing denounce charlottesville situation and denounced the child's separation situation you can go to the hill dot com and see my essay on the press not being the enemy of the people of the red line for me. I guess everyone has a different red line was the incident related to the four congresswoman. I may not agree with them ideologically but they have standing in the united states three of them were born here one of which was naturalized here and so what he's saying to send them back for some reason i just looked at that i said okay. Dad is absolutely outrageous. He just racism and so- joy. If you wanna fault me and your viewers wanna fault me for getting there late. I'm okay with that. I can accept that because i'm a flawed human being but here's that i would say to everybody. This is an international crisis and you have to create an off ramp for people that did what i did. We were spinning of rubik's cube and said it okay well. This part is good. That is good. This is good okay. That part is bad and then through the process of cognitive dissidence. We started to lessen the parts that were bad but those parts have become ridiculous at this point and maybe you don't agree with me but i think the last two weeks have been worse than at any other time oppa oppa. Let's say that you don't agree with me and you say he's been exactly the same that he's been since two thousand fifteen some of us. It took us time where i was a lawyer. I'm a loyal person listen i was. I'm a registered republican and i'm just suggesting to people create the off ramp for people that got this very wrong. We made a hiring decision <hes> we're we're in the board room. The ceos acting nuts. We have to replace. Let me let me just really quickly established just some grounds of where we all santa. There's what parts were good. I'm sorry what parts where he said some parts of good good okay so so i thought some some of the parts that were good were the deregulation of aspects of the american business the d. layering of the administrative state. If you looked at some of the things that they did on on the economy improved african american and hispanic american unemployment numbers they've always an interesting place that the trump go affleck american influence been falling since obama. Why is that always the hinge point there. I mean i never knew the republican party. Was that interested in african american. I'm not i'm not you're asking asking me to tell tell you where i saw things that were beneficial for me. I'm a very big believer that we need regulation in our society but we need propitious regulation russian and sort of the middle of the pendulum swinging too far to over-regulating the economy okay and so i believe that you you may not agree with me but it doesn't really matter right now. In terms of what our political differences we have a lunatic a full blown lunatic in the white house that is literally having a nervous breakdown before i you you've known him for that. We have to act. I'm sorry no no. I want to stop you right there because you know donaldson you've known on top of really long time well before you were part of his administration. You've known him the him that well so what's that yeah. I know he's attention is that you didn't know him that well. You know people inside the white house. I know some people who work with the administration. Why are they not doing what you're doing. Do you believe that there were people in the the white house now in the administration who know what you know about him as you just said he's having a breakdown it sure looked like one calling himself the second coming of god but why aren't they leaving why. Why aren't they changing their minds. Well i mean you you know from your sources inside n._b._c. News that of course there are people inside the white house that absolutely hate his guts and now yeah. They're trying to figure out what they can do. One of the problems is the rampant bullying and look look what he did to me and my wife on his twitter feed this week and so that i don't even you can take that personally. That's being done to silence the people inside the white house that hate his guts and silence of people up on capitol hill. He's also got this sort of paper tiger mirage status inside the republican party. He's tweeting out that he's ninety four percent approval rating but it's not it's closer to about seventy eight. That's still high but if you ask the secondary kadoorie question what would you choose him over another credible republican. You know somebody that jon huntsman nikki haley mike pompeo i could list very experienced people that could become the american president and of course the people say yes because he's not and so so listen i do believe by speaking out and calling the emperor for what it is very naked. I do think it's going to create a runway and a human shield for people. I don't mind taking the blows. I don't mind taking the blows from the left on m._s._n._b._c. I don't mind taking the blows from ronna romney mcdaniel row. All of a sudden is a personality cult party as supposed to the republican party. I got no problem with we have to bring those people out and i predict we will have to ask you this because a lot of people are going to be cynical about you as you know. There's going to be some cynicism about you. Now changing your mind about trump so i have to ask you this question you have. You said there's an interview here that i am looking at on a podcast that you're going to form a super pac. You're going to form a pack. You said you might call it. The committee me to dismantle trump and you'll come up with some other name for it a pack. I have to ask you this question because we those of us. Who've worked a little bit in politics know how super pacs work will you get a percentage percentage of what you're able to raise for that superpac okay so let let's talk about that. Because you probably read about this this nonsense bread pasta cow. I've given money he and i have raised money for candidates and if you go back into my history because i went to law school barack obama my first four wait for ray into presidential politics actually raised money in bundled for him. I've never taken a dollar from any of this stuff. It very wait a minute. We're really quick the way that super pacs work is that you get ten to twenty percent. If you're the fundraiser is that people don't do super pacs for free so you're saying that you raise money into your wealth. You don't get senate well. Ho ho ho hold on a say unfortunately the way the system works. It might have to go out and you pay people to help me raise money. I will likely do that. I'm not gonna take any personal money for myself because i want it number one. I don't need the money joy number two. This'll this will be specifically designed to go after this lunatic in the swing states targeting suburban women frankly because if you depress their vote for this this guy he will lose and so for me. It's going to be a very surgical super pac. I think it could possibly be named the committee to unseat trump because i liked the acronym him cut like enough is enough. Gotta cut this guy out. I understand the cynicism at the end of the day. I am a republican. I'm not disavowing the republican party already. I'm trying to stay in the party and trying to reform the party to make the party more sensible way back in my background. You'll know that i helped legalize. Legalize gay marriage in new york and i worked with chad griffin to nationalize the gay marriage movement so i'm actually a libertarian he's way way too left socially and just center right on business joy okay well. I appreciate you being here. Please keep us up to date on how the superpac goes anthony scaramucci. Thank you very much for your your time really appreciate the the hair. The hair looks great by the way thank you very much really appreciate just allowed to say that so. I'm just throwing that out. Okay thank you. I appreciate it all right. Have a great day coming coming up. Some conservative pundits are taking a stand against you just heard one person who is doing so but the republican party writ large not so much by panel next. He's a horrible human being. He's a bad bad bad guy and every single day every single day you i and everybody watching us right. Now is reminded of how damn unfit he is. There is a lot of i think evidence building. Donald trump is not a well man. My hope in this moment has nothing to do with politics but it's is that this man is out of the oval office before my daughter's old enough to recognize what the president's e._s. That my daughter is not exposed to this type of leadership. Wow aside from a few conservative pundits that you just heard the actual republican party has been virtually silent following a week of bizarre outburst from donald trump joining me now dean opened allah up sirius x._m. Corrine jump here of move on dot org john harwood of c._n._b._c. Thank god for being here. John you have the disadvantage of not being here hang out with. I'm gonna go to you first. This silence is pretty pretty deafening. Now we know that we are on recess and so it's not like republicans are in capitol hill where you can catch them but it is it is interesting to you as this to me that they really haven't said anything. He says he's the king of israel. The second coming of god which is now claiming was a joke. He looked up in the sky and said you know he's the chosen one. Nothing well joy in for a diamond for a dollar. This has been the posture of republicans for quite some time that they try to ignore minimize say they haven't read or aren't familiar with the president's <unk> statements because they're afraid of criticizing him for fear of alienating his base. Maybe some people a segment of the republican party likes what he's said by many of them don't many of them are disturbed but they're also ambitious politicians and they're scared now. I talked yesterday a day with former congressman carlos cabello one of the people who because of donald trump's <hes> in part because of donald trump's popularity lost his reelection last year here. He said this is deeply disturbing. I'm not a psychologist but this is the kind of behavior you expect from. An authoritarian regime talked to greg bank. You one of the leading republican can economists who said that this confirms my belief <hes> suspicion for a long time that he's not a fit steward of the american economy <hes> talked to doug holtz taken who is another past <hes> republican white house economists who said the only person who needs to change his behavior right now is the president. It's not the president xi he he's not. He's confused as to what his powers are so there's there's criticism out there but it's pretty much all from people who do not have electoral futures within the republican party. I don't you know could we reach a tipping point where that changes and you get people more proactively typically a more aggressive version of what jeff flake did before. He left the senate. Maybe but i'm not holding my breath. Yeah i mean dean. We reach out to look judge people. I just wanted to know whether you know look. I grew up in the church the idea of declaring themselves the next coming of god or the king of israel right which is what the romans i used to belittle the jesus before they executed him right for defying the roman emperor the idea that somebody would even mouth those now trump saying is it is apostasy and so we reached out to franklin graham ralph reed focus on the family jerry falwell junior vice president mike pence and the r._n._c. we we got no response at all. We had pat robertson. We've reached out to who declined to comment. We did get one comment from somebody asked whether this apostasy was okay with them. Robert robert jeffress by far right winker student minister says if i thought president donald trump was trying to acquaint himself with the only true messiah jesus christ. I'll be the first to speak out however he didn't say that was me however that's not what he's doing. Trump has been a friend of mine for four years and i can assure you he does not possess a messiah complex all wayne root. Who's the person he was re tweeting. His comments were hyperbolic. The accurately capture the enthusiasm israelis have for for president trump. Every time i walked down the streets of jerusalem israeli stopped me and thank me for my support president trump referring to him as their president regarding the chosen one common anyone watching the video does president trump was speaking humorously about being the only president who's been willing to confront china data dobbins air can give residents the idea that even robert jefferson his offensive trump is still still saying essentially that american jews real country israel that ended up itself if a muslim said to them you know donald trump is just being loyal royal to saudi arabia. Which of course is your country. That's the implication. They you know what i mean. People would go crazy so even in the defense what is happening. Why is no one willing to have any integrity when it comes to donald trump well. If you ask those same people about muslims they will demonize this because every single person you mentioned there has a track record of demonizing muslims because that for whatever reason that place their base donald trump placed their base. They're almost political figures point not religious leaders david constituency that gives them money to keep them in power so you have the exact same dynamic of politics going on the same reason you don't see elected republicans standing up the donald trump but we're we're going to think about people before we started the show in two thousand sixteen trump touts of anti-semitism for an adam hillary clinton and the jewish star and gallard sign at the time jared kushner wrote an op ed for the observer saying donald trump is not in it i- semite he's not a racist. I know him well this time. Even jared kushner is silent if his daughter is silent there's no one defending him left except the die hard people who want jesus to come back and also more importantly christian sharia law and he is their vessel to impose the bible. I call christian sharia law as opposed as lama trail all different that the idea of christmas tree laws imposing the bible. He's their messiah so for trump to look up. When he said he was chosen. He should look down from an entity above the sky with okay so we have john harwood would korean the reporting that essentially only republicans with nothing electorally to lose. They're willing to speak out against trump anthony scaramucci on i'll take the l ford. I was wrong. I'm coming out now. He's got a super pac. He's gonna create. People can be cynical about that but he came out and said that there are people inside the white house who know trump is deranged and they won't say anything you have people in the religious side not willing to have of any religious integrity when it comes to donald trump. What's what the politicians here's lindsey graham on trump tariff. This man is not pro tariffs. We all know we've seen lindsey graham for years here. He is on tariffs. The goal is to get china to stop cheating the united states out of market share to play by the rules that everybody else in the world plays by it comes to a trade war. We've got more bullets than they do so i think the president's determined to get china to change their behavior and i'm one hundred percent with him. Well we feel consumers. Yes but pay narrow pay later when it comes to china. I'm surprised he didn't also say and yes. He actually is the second coming of god. I mean this. We all have to accept that. You have tom cotton coming out and taking the l. and say oh. No don't worry it was me i wanted to buy greenland yeah. What is happening here. You've worked at politics. What is this they have all lost their minds ah but here here's the thing look like you said they. These are folks. Republicans who were four free trade deficit hawks. They have lost all of their entire. The the core of the republican party is now gone. Let's let's be really clear when it comes to the trade war congress could step in republicans can step in. It's congress's purview view. It is congress's purview. They regulate that but they're quiet. They're silent and a lot of it is what john howard was saying in the beginning. Which is they're so afraid of. Donald donald trump. They are fearful like lindsey. Graham has a reelection in twenty twenty and he is so scared of not getting his keeping his power that he he's doing anything that he can by making sure he does not upset. Donald trump's base. He does not want donald trump to step into his election to make sure he has like maybe be someone challenging and it's all about self preservation. Its wealth rolling on to power. Yeah go ahead. I was just going to say to be clear. Lindsey graham talked about donald trump the way anthony scaramucci talks about him now when he was trying to prevent it from winning the republican nomination so he said a lot of those same things he is now trying to preserve influence and preserve his support within the republican base <hes> but some of this is becoming increasingly hard to square with reality and when when lindsey graham says we have more bullets than china in this trade war that may be true but they have more time than we have and more time than npr president she has more time the president trump has because he doesn't face he's <hes> the face re election in two thousand twenty for life. Yeah and donald trump is now planning. We're gonna get more to this than the next hour because we have all these three great guests coming up next hour because donald trump is gonna literally threatened tank the market again by having tariffs kick in october right before christmas buying season because that's genius business acumen coming up donald trump doesn't he does bet besides declaring bankruptcy because that's what he really does bet. He takes the stock doc market. He snubbed another in another american ally as well. That's it is with regret and surprise that i received the news that <hes> president trump has cancelled his state visit at discussion. <hes> has that's how it has been graced raised about a potential sale of greenland and this has clearly been rejected by can kids uh a position that i share of course this week ahead of the g seven summit in france. Donald trump did as usual thing throwing a tantrum and picking a fight with and yet another american ally. He cancelled a trip to denmark and snubbed at the country's queen who had extended the invitation. The canceled state visit occurred after the danish prime minister dismissed trump's trump's proposal to buy greenland and autonomous danish territory as absurd because it's absurd trump lashed out resorting to his favorite phrase when describing thriving women who defy him now denmark i look forward to going but i thought that the prime minister's statement that it was absurd that was it was it absurd idea was nasty. I thought it was inappropriate. Statement join me now is malcolm nance author of the plot to destroy democracy malcolm. It's always great talk to you. I want to start with the greenland. Let's talk about that first greenland. It was a joke to people when donald trump said he wanted to buy green but it's actually a very serious thing here. It's a land and that has maybe like fifty five thousand people living on it largely indigenous and what the rest of it is covering that ice is covering oil and gas oil and coal. Sorry the island has drawn rising interests to c._n._b._c. due to its vast natural resources including coal zinc copper iron ore and rare minerals denmark a little a bit more from c._n._b._c. has publicly expressed concern about china's interest in greenland per the pentagon so this is not a joke. This is about exploiting yet. Another indigenous digits land absolutely and let me tell you a little something this is not the only place in the world that people are trying to come into regions then no one has cared about for some time and exploit them. The russians for example are and the chinese are in central africa which since the nineteen sixties is pretty pretty much been left alone and the global geopolitical map but greenland as if you look at it cynically right viewing global warming is finally finally exposing the terrain in greenland which allows you to exploit these minerals rare earth minerals which are used in electronics and only the china has a lock on around the world if you do that then of course you become a global trading you would become a global powerhouse. Russia is exploiting the arctic and somehow someone had talked with donald trump and said hey truman propose to buy greenland. Let's do this greatest trade deal biggest thing since the louisiana purchase. You'll be a great president. We'll get all these minerals yeah. If every global ice cap melts those would be available so donald trump making in this play it was serious obviously wasn't joking at all yeah and he thought that he could just put money on the table. The united states would buy those danish would go along with it or the fifty. Six thousand people in greenland would love being the fifty first state yeah and basically right just to exploit it and as you said there's a reason they don't believe in global warming say they don't believe it because they actually really helps them to be able to uncover resources. They want extract. Let's talk about the fact that he did this <hes> denmark because he's not going. We know that president obama is going in. Your view is part of the reason he's he's not going says. He doesn't want to be humiliated because president obama's going to be going in probably going to be greeted as a hero well president obama won't be going two weeks after what was supposed goes to his state. Official state visit to denmark. Denmark is a serious player certainly within nato <hes> most people don't realize that they have been in afghanistan for more than twenty years along with us. They were in iraq. I actually was alongside some danish forces in basra iraq. They've lost in combat action forty five men now comparative to their size that would be several thousand men if it was you know proportionate russian into the united states they have sacrifice for this nation in defense of american citizens but donald trump takes these things personally. He is a narcissist assist of the highest order and it's not about denmark. It's about his ego yeah. Let's let's talk about russia really quickly. He's going to the g seven. Donald trump said this week. I won't even bother to play it that he thinks that russia should be in the seven the seven supposed to be our allies only your thoughts on why he still taping for the kremlin you know when this comes out some day somewhere we are going to find out what russia has over donald trump and it is very very clear the economic interest of russia or equal to the economic interest of donald trump which means that you know all of the talk the the people have been having since two thousand sixteen. It is very clear that russia has been manipulating. Donald trump has made it clear that he they want him to be their advocate. He is their advocate. <hes> julia julia davis in some reporting out of russia has shown that russia itself believes that donald trump's going to bat for them to put them back into the g seven plus one but look russia is a poor nation. Somebody put it that it's a trailer park with atomic mkx bumps. They've got all the trading power of italy but you know when you're a gas station. You're selling gas. People want what you want. Donald trump's there how to do it for you. Because money talks for donald trump indeed indeed indeed malcolm nance best. I talk to on this subject. Thank you very much really appreciate you and thank you and coming up the trump administration's latest cruelty toward immigrants that assessed that's actually what the administration proposes supposed to do today to detain these frightened families who were at wits end or at their most desperate and vulnerable indefinitely going forward <hes> this cannot cannot be allowed to stand. This is another example of this administration's cruelty and everything about immigration. He's done to try to scare people. The trump regime sparked outrage this week win announce a new immigration regulation that would allow government get this to detain immigrants migrant families with children. Indefinitely trump is seeking to undo in one thousand nine hundred seven or known as the floors agreement that limited detention of migrant children to no more than twenty days joining me now we'll say tony and vargas founder of define american and the author of dear america great book notes from undocumented citizen must read that listen jose. This is crazy. They are talking about intent indefinite detention like one tahoe for me. Let's let's get rid of the term immigrant. What are we just call them. Human beings this is a this is against human rights as a human rights violation to detain people indefinitely and for what right why are we doing this and apparently cinelli is of course asking congress to fund this yeah which means that if you're living in a in in a state if you're living in a district that who's congress members support this. You have to call them out yeah and coach anneli italian surname. We know a lot of migrants came from italy from ireland from oliver europe. Now claims that what we want is people who already have lots of money what five million i was doing. Some research is between eighteen eighteen fifty to nineteen eighteen twenty. Five million italians moved to this country. How many of them were actually under two feet right when they got here. Yeah and i think the fact that what we we have to really grapple with the fact is that we are not talking about. What's legal here. This is way beyond right legality 'cause they're declaring what's legal and they're just saying it's just it is yeah so which of course we have to grapple with the fact that we've created a system of dehumanizing people so we don't think most people to thrive so therefore what do we do. We lock them indefinitely. We don't get flu shots to kids for a moment because here's the thing is that these people are presuming that somehow the flu can be contained in a cage it cannot on if there's a flu pandemic that emerges out of a holding cell where you have guards interacting with these people going home. If there's a flu pandemic it will be their fault breath so i mean as you know i was detained in texas for like eight hours right and the only blanket lands right and it's a cesspool all of totally see how a virus can spread so now. We're actually let we're going to let that happen. Seven children have died. Yes seven. Even how many more do we need to die. Well this. The question i have is that is the international committee doesn't have power over our over what we do here in this country so i think people feel helpless because these are are as you said international human rights violations. Where is the united nations where is congress who can actually do something about for me. Though i mean i feel like every community we now has to decide how to react to this right so if you have a detention center where you live what are you doing. What risks are you willing to. I mean for me. It's been so negative everything every day you wake up and there's something happening so i hold onto stories that you hear about that man in nashville right out of nashville that they actually ice came came to arrest him yeah and so people neighbors created a human chain to prevent ice from getting but this is i never i never thought i would grow up to live in a country where people were being stolen. There are these stories about these mississippi chicken plant workers children who are now abandoned with something. Both of their parents are gone. You now have this massive passive ring of babysitters. People actually have to take care of parentless children whose parents have and they don't know where they are. You have children being placed into foster. Care may be adopted out now. We don't know whether or not people are being permanently solan and i guess i have to say you know when we asked what can people do. The question for me is what risks are people willing take and it can be as risky as when you hear a coworker or your boss say something about these illegal people. Do you call them out. When you hear something that's inaccurate incorrect for example as much as we talk about public charge. It's amazing to me that we don't actually realize that undocumented workers and immigrant people contribute billions of dollars to the economy like we're here. We're taking. We're actually contributing wise not not part. We are in a week where people are going crazy over some chicken sandwiches where do people. I think the chicken comes from the popeye's chicken. Everybody loves it. Your chicken comes from these low. Income in many cases undocumented workers deboning chicken implants like the one off <music> of all everyone wants. This is not just a lot necks jazz. I mean i think it's you and i talked about this on documents and people like we'll have a responsibility to make sure that we are looking at our history squarely and as honestly as possible because we're responsible for that and we ever opportunity here to take risks chris yeah. So what are you willing to do yeah. Is it going to take the international community essentially digesting from the united states. I not sure that international law supply in the country country in which no loss apply when it comes to people who are not even treated as human beings yeah yeah when people are not people you can do it every month to them. You can do whatever you want to do with san. Antonio viruses always a treat to talk to you my friend. Thank thank you very much for the risk. You take every day to help people because again. It's not immigrant. Its people more aimed after the break. Thank you coming up. How a single presidential tweet brought down the stock market or am joy after the break. Ah yes clapping for money so american. How did a president without congress or anybody else just by himself hurt. The economy will let me show you how on friday before the u._s. Stock markets even opened china upped the ante in the trade war that donald trump started with them announcing that they would slap retaliatory tariffs on seventy five billion dollars the u._s. goods as that was happening. Federal reserve chairman jerome powell was giving remarks at a conference in jackson hole wyoming and he pledged pledge to quote act as appropriate to sustained expansion while suggesting other interest rate cuts might be in the offing palestine instantly soothed the markets. The stock market actually rose on his remarks but trump. It's not too pleased he wants those rates slashed even more and probably wasn't happy about pal calling trump's trade war with china and a quote complex and turbulent and so trump did what he does he launched a twitter attack on his own fed chair and just as the market had gone up when powell spoke it started to plummet when trump tweeted c._n._b._c. actually clocked this drama in a series of tweets okay. Here's the timeline check this out. Pal made his remarks attendant which c._n._b._c. z. tweeted about seven minutes later c._n._b._c. tweets that the stocks that the stock market jumped to session highs and that the dow turn positive at ten forty three a._m. The dow nasdaq and s&p five hundred were all in positive territory which sounds really great right and it was great for about like fifteen minutes because at ten in fifty seven trump took to twitter to bash the federal reserve chair for doing nothing and then asked if j. paul j. pal trump's handpicked fed chair is a bigger the enemy of the united states he asked that whether he's a bigger enemy than xi jinping of china and then it was perhaps the most disturbing choice of words in his tweet store trump said that american companies are hereby ordered to stop manufacturing in china despite trump himself and his daughter ivanka doing tons of business with wait for for it china that tweet led to a stunning reversal on wall street c._n._b._c. posted eleven o four stocks plunged followed by a series of tweets showing join the markets tumbling down down down the time span of the c._n._b._c. twitter chronicle of trump taking the stock market all his own one hour and forty three minutes and all because has trump had a temper tantrum about his trade with china resulting in a spooked stock market trump ordering u._s. companies how to do business and trump's fed chair labeled an enemy for not doing his a bit perfect. No i'm not happy with jay powell. I don't think he's doing a good job at all. I don't think he's much of a chess player. Oh you i want him to resign. Let me put it this way if he did. I wouldn't stop dude. You hired him. Joining me. Now is korean air coupon. I don't work elliott was style of above the lot dot com john harwood of c._n._b._c. the aforementioned juliane malveaux economist author and rachel bit of biblical for of the wason jason center for public policy go for being here. I'm going to come to you first on this elliott because donald trump is i hereby order kim jong un style order to american companies. What did you stop doing business with china right now. Name companies take their stocks. Does he have such a power. We have this arguing comfortable with the fact that donald trump can do whatever john roberts says he can do there and if y'all don't like that y'all should have gone to the mattresses garlic because that's why we're here now. The authority that trump is arguing that has is under something called the international emergency economic powers act it works much like the national emergencies act which means that when the president says i feel like mrs an emergency he gets wide latitude to do all kinds kinds of crazy things much like essentially planned economy like china would have the authority to do but there is an important supreme the first of all there's an important part of the statute which says that he can only declare the emergency the unusual and extraordinary circumstances china existing extraordinaire right. It's just a thing uh-huh so there's there's very little very little legally binding precedent to suggest that trump can declare national emergency and national economic emergency yeah based on china existing time to them have been used before was against iran when they took actual american hostages. That's the last time that's one of the last times this was used and and they're a supreme court precedent on that one of william rehnquist's most famous decisions is upholding the presidential authority to do whatever he wants to stop iran dan but very limited to the situation where iran has taken aggressive unusual extraordinary action against american citizens. There's nothing to suggest that that's what china has done right and if john roberts understands that there's nothing to suggest that trump can get this done well. It's john harwood. I'm gonna go to you next because i did varo the c._n._b._c. tweets which was extraordinary. I was watching it on twitter. It was happening and there are the markets up with the market's down. Oh my god he's taking like it happened in order on this same issue clearly clearly someone told donald trump hey in nineteen seventy seven thousand nine hundred seventy seven act that is ellie points out was used against iran. Maybe you can use that against china or maybe they said f._d._r. Doc was able to make steel companies make planes right and so he thinks he can just do it because somebody told them i doubt he's ever read the history that we just espoused right right and the question is donald trump a willing to invoke emergency powers and sanction american companies as the united states sanctioned iran in the hostage crisis or this law was also used to freeze assets in the war on terror after nine eleven is he gonna put u._s. U._s. multinationals in that bucket and treat them that way. I don't think the reaction to that would be tolerable to any president <hes> <hes> republican or democrat. I think that's that's the point where you would see a businesses which are typically timid in political debates step up in a much more forceful for way. I don't see this happening. I think the chances of it are dominicus. He was trying to assert in that tweet. He sent late last night that oh well. My power can't be constrained under certain circumstances. I'm going to be shocked if he actually attempted to use the same time the two problems here with all of these constructions corinne and is that donald trump did declare fake national emergency for no reason and congress went along with it. Mitch mcconnell will do anything. Donald trump wants as long as he gets his judges and his power the supreme court i don't onto what anybody would trust them with the people he put on there on the court and donald trump is threatened companies before he said you'd better do x. Y. z. and steel companies snap to attention. He's claimed named credit for things. President obama put in place. I know i did that and everyone goes along with it. He ordered people to come to a rally essentially at at at a plant. They all showed up like he has been it able to bully people. Why shouldn't he be able to threaten. I'm gonna put sanctions on u. Amazon dot com. I'm gonna put sanctions on american companies that they don't get out of china but this is like you said this is what what he does he's he. He claims to do something and then he says it's like oh. This is a national emergency and he doesn't and then we don't hear anything about it or he says he's going to do it. And then nothing happens. No-one backs them up. Even his administration doesn't follow through but here's the thing joy you donald trump is unhinged. We all know that he's been on for a long time. He he and i do believe he knows exactly what he's doing because i think in his mind he thinks his base wants to see a fighter. That's how we got into this trade war right and i think if you look at the can't his campaign his campaign has been thinking that they were going to win because of the economy allow looks look at what's happening with the economy and then you have donald trump who's actually a a desperate man and when you were a desperate man you do desperate things. We have to remember in two thousand fifteen when donald trump jumped into the fray jumped into the into the politics. It was a branding exercise. It was a market while it was awful and nasty and very divisive. He didn't think he was going to win. He just did it because of whatever business deal if he was hoping to get out of it now we're in two thousand nineteen. We're looking at twenty twenty. He knows he has to get reelected so he's doing everything that is insane crazy because he's he's really focusing on that phase because he knows what it means to be indicted. He knows what it means to go to prison. He knows there is more at stake for him than ever before in his entire life. That's what we're seeing. We're seeing a desperate man. Do desperate things yeah. The only two things trump seems to be afraid of strong women and prosecute ah juliane although donald trump's handling of the economy in terms of latest polling from a._p. He's underwater on that. That was his strongest longest number for a long time. He's underwater in terms of the economy. You can't and trump has been able throughout his life as korean so rightly said to fake his way through he's not successful at real estate at that busy failure at that he was a failure at casino ownership but he's always been able to talk a good game and get out of it. He does seem to be desperate. Because can you just talk through. What is the state of the u._s. Economy right now well. If you look at the macro numbers joy it looks okay but you have to peel back and look at the micro numbers. There's <hes> unemployment. Rate is lower than it's ever been but wages have been stagnant. <hes> you have the inverse yield curve last week which caused a eight hundred point drop in the stock market. You had all this nonsense. He's doing what he does not understand the economy. John said something earlier. That's extremely important. It's a multi title national nature of the fortune five hundred and of our world economy. You can't tell apple that they can't do business in china when so many of their chips are being produced in china. You can't tell four that they can't import cars to china. I mean this. This is just a a grown man having public tantrum tantrum but the public tantrum creates an uncertainty in the stock market that really has a negative blowback on investors the let's be clear about something about half of all americans. Don't give a bleep about the stock market. Most of us don't have investments in the stock market so when johnny jones are suzie q. picks picks up the newspaper and sees that and that's a large part of his base well this doesn't have anything to do with me but when they go to walmart in december and they see see the prices of toys up then they're going to say oh. This has something to do with me and we have to put this fight with china in some contexts. Certainly the china has been a bad actor in the past. We all know that however they've been very measured in their response to him their attitudes. We don't wanna fight but if you wanna fight bring it because we'll fight back so they increased <hes> terrorists by ten percent compared to his thirty percent. They increase the number of u._s. Goods by seventy five billion compared to the three hundred billion. What china is doing is making. This man look like a bad actor on the world stage because he's been far more aggressive than they've been now they they have a you know. We have trade issues with china. I'm not gonna deny that but what's going on right now. As we have begun to feel yet we will now not all we because farmers have felt felt heard from farmers. We've heard for them about the exports china's not buying from us and others have felt but not in the way that we can feel it in a year we we are looking at an economy that sitting on shaky ground and the report that the <hes> whoever's poll it was i think it was washington post north pole. They came out thursday so it came out thursday but we're stocks went down and this man started clowning and so i would be interested to see what happens and then finally ah. We've made a really great point. This international for emergencies is not for your convenience. You can't create an emergency and so he's got. He's gonna play this out because guess what this deflects from what else is going on a flex from his his week polls at the flexible of that yeah and john very quickly before i bring rachel in i've seen statistics that say something like seventy percent of what sold in walmart is sourced from china. Donald trump's owned businesses. Here's here's just a short list of the things that his own businesses source and create in china apparel. His soups tacky long suits taghi ties eye glasses. Uh home goods furniture. Why would he by home. That's from trump hotel. Trump hotel amenities campaign merchandise his daughter his daughter's shoes that seemed to really it close to other brands for whatever reason are made in china. She has received five new trademarks from china. Just in the month of january twenty nineteen her shoes who's business is still going on made in china. Donald trump himself does business in china. Can you just talk a little bit about the interconnectedness really quickly john of the u._s. and chinese economies aw well china is a huge part of the global economy and the global economy all over the world is interconnected. <hes> supply chains commerce back and forth. That's what's transformed. The economy the world over the last thirty years so you can't disentangle those things with a tent trans-pacific pacific partnership which was initiated by president george w bush negotiated by president obama and then scuttled by president trump that was an attempt to amass asked allies in that global economy to counter the power of china but he pulled out of that so that undercut the leverage the united states had to force changes but ah his businesses just illustrate the point that you were making we all remember that hilarious bit on david letterman show when he had <hes> <hes> donald don't trump on before he was president and slowly exposed to all of the sourcing of the president's <hes> goods in the president said something on the order of oh well you know. They got to have jobs over there to even better than i have the letterman but i want to play another one. This was on c. n. n. and then i'm gonna go to rachel on this this. It was donald trump back in two thousand fifteen. He's starting to run for president defending the fact that he does so much business with china harris. I talk about my ties in speeches. I'm open. I say my ties many times meat and not all of them by the way but a lot of them are made in china because they've manipulated initiated their currency to such a point that it's impossible for our companies to compete. It's very very hard to have anything in apparel made in this this country and then so rachel you have delighted a lot of people with your tweet of your data that shows donald trump on track to probably not win the election two two thousand twenty which is why he would be having a panic attack. Would something like that is that part of the reason that you're seeing these changes in his prospects because it started to dawn on people that this guy is a fraud. I mean certainly but keep in mind. My model and my research is really squared on the other side of the electorate in this idea that we have these giant turnout surges from democrats and people who sympathize with democrats who are just absolutely shocked and appalled by the election of donald donald trump and although the last three years have done nothing to make them feel better about that. It's certainly aggravated those emotions. <hes> you know they. They were not not necessarily ever trump supporters. There is a small segment of what we call pure independence and they did break in favor of trump in twenty sixteen and they won't a break in favor of him in two thousand twenty according to my research but certainly there is going to be as a panelist pointed out a reckoning coming. He has been enable to use bailouts and the delayed effects of these tariffs so far to hide from the white working class the effect that they are going to have but but come december come christmas time these tariffs are going to be felt and then it becomes up to the democrats to leverage it right. They have to be able to make the connection connection for these voters who are in these walmart's who are looking at these increased prices <hes> if they don't use that in an advertising way in their political michael ads. Hey you know average american. Why is all of your stuff more expensive donald j trump and his trade and tariff trade war. You have to to make that connection for voters otherwise they're not going to be able to make it for themselves and i think democrats tend to over you know over estimate what voters no oh and how much they're paying attention to the news and politics so you have to do that for them. And what you've said is music is the first part of what you said is news to the years of my panel here because we talk about this all the time that there's this this obsession with conversion when the reality is is that as rachel's data has shown. It's the low turnout among the base the problem for hillary clinton. This is an instance there are people are already mad at between you've worked on campaigns and work on the v. campaign but the rock obama the the most important one probably in our modern lifetime but this one this will change people's minds walmart prices going up. That's real yeah and it's like like many have said. It's going to be going to see that around. The holidays. Farmers are losing right now. In consumers are going to be losing in a couple of months and it's going to be devastating for them. Especially around the holidays and it's so true i think there there is something that rachel has said like democrats have to figure out how how do we connect that to the voters right. How do we make sure that they understand because we turn on our base. We have to do that. There was a low turnout like four point. Four million less people showed up when you compare took two thousand twelve to two thousand sixteen majority of that four four point four million people of off color but he did not come out. So how do we get them excited. How do we get them to come out and that's one way to do it but i also of two minds. Wanna say this really quickly. I know but it's interesting to me because when you look at when you look at the trump voters and the data show that trump voters it wasn't about the economy wasn't the anxiety of the economy that made them turn out into the racial insecure your identity so i'm not convinced. I think that i don't think that this is going to affect his his his. Yes folks ellie. I am just saying that two thousand sixteen. It wasn't about the economy. That's all i'm saying that's data. Oughta shows to me part of what the democrats have to do is make sure that people understand that. It's not just about trump. It is about republican policies. Yeah this happened my entire life right republicans getting power. They practice smash and grab capitalism. They wreck the economy right. Then democrats. Gotta come along make spent eight years making really tough sometimes unpopular choices to to get the economy back on track and just at the point where we can start doing what we want to do as opposed to what we have to do. American voters who have the memory of a goldfish or like little the republicans republicans come right back in the match everything again like at some point i am sick of the democrats having to run around with a bottle of breeze because republicans keep getting their are folks over the economy that is a really good point because it does seem like where people fall into sort of a lull because democrats keep fixing the economy and then as soon as people feel comfortable elect republicans again who bring about recession music. Give all the money to rich people get. I love ilise lines napping grab a how capitalism i'm gonna use that. I usually call it. Predatory capitalism with that makes it much more clear but one of the things that we must advertise korean to your point is that <hes> blue burgers estimated that these terrorists will cost the average american household eight hundred dollars now understanding the number of people who are just sitting on the edge. We just s._r. Report that said that the majority of folks couldn't absorb a four hundred dollar emergency so now your christmas shopping here. It's gonna cost you eight hundred dollars hours yeah so you're under water and you're right. You're absolutely democrats. I don't know what's wrong with democrats. I mean i'm one so i can't tell you. I don't know what's wrong with democrats but it it just seems that we refuse to be a sufficiently aggressive not only about the economy which we must tell in sound bites that are understandable yeah but it also about the whole issue of racial identity and how the racial fear hurts why people i mean this is a historic trope in the united states when you when you decide that black people are taking your jobs. Immigrants are taking your jobs. What ends up happening is capitalism takes everybody. That's exactly right rachel then. I guess the question would be is is according to your data your data girl here today. Is it a matter of messaging that is helping democrats being such a better position or is it just a matter of just people's playing outrage about the whole thing that he is doing yeah no. It's absolutely connected and i'm so glad that you gave me an opportunity to interject act here because i know exactly what's wrong with democrats at ties back into the my data thank you you know what's wrong with democrats. Read my twitter thread and continue to read my research as i try to pump it out but this is what's going on you. Citing the cycle of you know you have all these crises. People will like democrats because we have these turnout surges which is what my data sfjazz you have. These turnout surges democrats. Get get fired up. They come out they they. They the rise to the occasion they seize power they fix things but then they pull back and the reason is because democrats absolutely suck at messaging they don't tap up into a motion they wanna have these cerebal conversations with voters that don't exist because the you know we we are not typical people and we wanna talk to ourselves. Goals and you have to tap into emotion the way that the g._o._p. Does not i would argue in such a negative way but in a way that gets people to connect napped their day to day lives with the political process and if you can keep those aren't turnout rollbacks happening and maintain power then you can make some gains but you're right as long as you're always rushing in on a surge in decline a cleanup crew. You're never going to make progress excellent so in point and john you know it does feel like democrats are constantly cleaning up republican economies and then once people get economically comfortable. They go back to putting in the same people who drove the economy into recession. It is bizarre well. There's an ebb and flow of politics always and that's why it's very been very difficult and flow off a cliff legs uh-huh but it's been difficult for presidents for political parties to win the presidency for example three times in a row right over the last century. Oh you're so so some of that is natural irrespective of economic policy but we do have a recurrent pattern that we've seen since the reagan again era of deficits rising when republicans are in power mostly because their principal interest is in cutting taxes and shrinking government. It's just a shrinking government parts hard so they cut taxes and deficits go up then they have gone down under the last two republican <hes> excuse me democratic presidents and it so happened that <hes> barack obama you had a a convergence of factors one. He was the first african american president to he took office in a financial crisis and recession in three the steps he had to do to counter the financial crisis and recession drove up the deficit in the short term. He was already over trillion dollars when he walked in the door of the white house but he kept it in that gave a republicans a tool to argue that he was bankrupting the country of course the deficit declined by two thirds by the time he left the office and now it's headed up again. Yeah i mean every single measure better president than president donald trump. I mean <hes> ah the decrease in unemployment the decrease in the deficit it all went better under the democratic president under president obama. If we join we're ericsson's. We're out of time but the americans they'll say. Republicans are better with the economy so democrats need to fix that problem if they ever want solve their long-term issues yeah absolutely as we we go out before we go. I know we're out of time. I wanted to really quickly played as a seventeen seconds by david letterman. Maybe democrats just play this during the campaign play quick. He has a stance dance in china which is a country that just ripping her heart out. I mean we just do nothing to protect ourselves. They agree to this heiser meeting. Where china is unrated traded china play that play that for the voters democrats. It's your free tip for the day korea right back dr would elliott style juliane malveaux rachel bitta koper. Thank you all very much and follow rachel on twitter fire coming up. Who's who's out the latest on the shrinking drinking. We live on twenty one twenty twenty field of candidates his neck. This become clear that i'm not going to be carrying the ball. I'm not going to be the president so i'm withdrawing tonight from from the race but i have to tell you i've been fighting climate change for twenty five years and i've never been so confident of the ability of american out of each critical mass to move the ball jay inslee dropped out of the presidential race this week as rachel matter would say poof live had to do it. You can read maybe they've on the air with my pal rachel maddow the forementioned and he will instead run for re-election as governor of washington state inslee follows former governor colorado governor john hickenlooper who dropped out of the presidential race announced he will instead run for the senate seat currently occupied but republican cory gardner and that is not all joining the list of dropouts on friday was seth seth moulton a congressman from massachusetts would not qualify for any of the democratic debates that means field has now shrunk into a mere twenty. One democratic candidates kurt even diener back with me. Enjoy the panel is jessie ross host of the podcast break dances with wolves josh having to go to we love it when people pull a hickenlooper which means means you drop out of the presidential race and you're in for senate in that might be winnable. What do you think about the drop at st think there will be more. I think there has to be more. I mean we're talking about twenty one off people with <hes> only ten of them that really are have an opportunity to have any sort of exposure and understanding those numbers. I just keep on getting this reminiscent feeling rolling of eighties horror movies. Please be another white guy. Please be another white guy. Let it let it be better. Let it be blasios because because joy the the people of color in this race just like much of american history are the ones bringing the flavor are the ones bringing the integrity are the ones bringing the sense of justice and it's kinda cool because white women have said you know we've been complicit in historical white supremacy and we want to join this justice campaign as well and there's very few of these white guys other than bernie sanders who are bringing unique value to this campaign. Yeah it is interesting that the the paring down is among the white dude exit because because there are so many in that lane there's there's there's not a lot of white guy lane in the credit card because they're so like you said there are so many so many look at me. Look democrats needed to start winning down the pool. I mean it just had to happened. Historical amount of people twenty four people in a race which is unheard of and also a lot of them are one percent or lower. They were never going to break through. They really weren't and so there. It's better to if we we want to have a real conversation and the who is the best person to take on donald trump which is going to be a horrific kind of day days of our lives in the next next thirteen eighteen months. We have to winnow it down. We have to get to to the who can really do that and that's what voters want say over and over again. They want to be donald trump. That is the number one thing that we need to see and this where hopefully getting there and it feels like the lane is biden not right everyone's competing to be not biden and i think the justice point it feels like not biden is going to be a woman but you have like eight to do so we're trying to be not as well can any of them overtake biden in that lane the the moderately first of all people dropping out if you're tied with me and i will right now you should probably drop out likes like we're even in polling zero and you're zero and i've never been to iowa problem right now. Now look when you right now in the news polls when you add up bernie and warned the eclipse joe biden for a long time that was happening yeah so now the progressive wing. I'm not suggesting either either one drop out to do that. The progressive wing now asserting itself more crystalizing mommy look at senator harris what happened she met eleven twelve point. Yeah clean polls and it shows this is a softness to support. People are still looking for who they want. I went to new hampshire worn rally. Take four hundred people a few months ago. After you talk to people like you're onboard with liz they go. Oh no not really there. They'll wanna see everyone yeah. People wanna see but i'm sure every you worked campaigns. Everyone now is going in there down by twenty points going well obama's down by twenty at this point in two thousand seven jimmy carter's at two percent at this point bill clinton's down at two percent of this point so they get these pep talks hoping they're going to win the lottery as well. It's not that easy yeah. I was just gonna say those four early states. They take their job incredibly seriously. That's why you're seeing the softness numbers because they do especially when you think about the iowa caucus. They have one or two people when they go into the caucus. Yes they pick one person but remember they biggest biggest convinced to move over to the other side. This is not done yet. This is not we have a long way to go. Well let let's talk about this. The blade you kind of brought up first which is the part of the not biden lane that is essentially warren. We're in versus sanders now. It's not a perfect kind of comparison because interestingly enough you ask who your second favorite is. Bernie and biden share a second favorite favorite right so bernie people say their second favourite is biden and vice versa and if you ask watering people who your second favorite is it's harris so in a way they are not directly competitive. They have very different bases <music> but in a lot of ways they operate the same way they had the same sort of progressive policies but one thing is democratic. Socialist one is not in your mind is one of the two of them better position to because they can't both be in the race. They will eventually. They have to take each other on yeah. I mean it's highlander right. There can only be one and i think ultimately in the long run. There are are going to be a good portion of people. I was bernie supporter in two thousand sixteen and i think that there's a certain amount of baggage that goes along with the bernie campaign. <hes> you know the the the whole bernie bros stereotype now democrat. I mean demographics. <hes> polling empirical data shows that the bernie bro stereotype is not necessarily true of the typical bernie supporter that he has many many women supporters that said i think that the baggage that he's going to carry over from two thousand sixteen maybe because of <hes> of some of the campaigning tricks of of some of his supporters that will be a burden in the long run in this <hes> you know artificial duality of of warren verses bernie sanders and i think that ultimately elizabeth warren is better positioned to capitalize on that and that's an interesting point though because you know i i talked to my daughter was first sanders before but now she's shopping. She's looking around and she really likes warren. She likes comma harrah's like so it is true that he's not necessarily hold on and a lot of his supporters and some of his staffers. Some of his surrogates have been like hitting other candidates which somewhat turns people off hitting people on social media. Let me just show them here from listeners for my showcase their progressives around the nation they the ones who like bernie say they like warren the same things. I hear what the polling says what i'm seeing myself in period. Please people call. Let me go. I like listen. I like barney or the. I like harris. That's that'll be another lane every now and then someone calls up and says they like bite it but the bottom line is you don't have the energy energy they are of the view of compensation led by it's even people of color who call up older people call up and say we want someone's going to beat trump right such a sense of fear about who can beat him so look. I don't think i know what the polling says but bernie in bye birdie and warren not being the choice the number two choice. I hear it over and over. It is totally back. They won't between the two and they don't know what to do. Many we want to warn sanders ticket to get him. That'd be some ticket never gonna happen. Yeah well you know and it is interesting but the sad thing of what you said there is the way you said. The biden thing was oko sort of an okay fine by like feel like that's what i hear all the time yeah i oh i think up here jesse roz pinky guys all very much coming up. What may be the most important story on earth right now seriously. You're not wanna miss. After a period of peaceful protest demonstrators in hong kong based violent clashes with the police today as the protests continued for a twelfth consecutive weekend. Police fired tear gas and protesters threw stones in retaliation. This comes a day after demonstrators. Supporting the pro democracy z. movement critic twenty eight mile human chain inspired by a nineteen eighty-nine protests across baltic states condemning soviet domination in the region attended up next global global crisis that is threatening every breath you take. I'm not going to be able to stay long because this fire spreading but everything behind me right. Now is the forest that i've been working to protect for the last thirteen years. It's burning like this every day. There are literally millions of animals in this forest but cannot escape right now and if you've been gone planet can survive this every day in the amazon. You have another thing coming. Wildfires are raging in the amazon rail rainforest at record rates which environmental groups attributed to increase deforestation under brazil's president zaire bolsonaro who took office in january and proceeded to turn over track of what is called the plan. It's lungs to developers wilson our originally call the global outcry sensationalist sation list for on friday. He said that he would send in brazil's military to enforce environmental laws. Meanwhile scientists agree that the damage done to the amazon threatens our our best hope to mitigate the effects of climate change joining me now is naturalist and filmmaker paul rosalie who filmed the video that you just saw journalists shannon sims sims and via skype environmental activists bill mckibben. Thank you all for being here i did. I pronounce your name right policy and it okay so you are just come back from the amazon. How much of the rainforest is on fire. There's something like thirty thousand small fires. This is the dry season so this is when you have slash and burn agriculture so all over the region or a bunch of small fires ars just garbage island. It's not actually one giant thing but as a huge collection of all small things and why would people who are having who owned farms. Why would they burn their land well. The rainforest soil is very fertile so they have to cut the forest burnt burnt it down and that creates the nutrients that they can farm on for a few years but that's not a sustainable way of using rainforest. They're much more more valuable standing and producing fifth of plans oxygen and a fifth of the fresh water that we have and so essentially people set these fires and they're out of control is that what's happening what's happening. I think what's happening this year. Yeah this is going on every year. That's the thing people would just getting excited about it. Now but people are setting these fires to clear the amazon. We've lost about twenty percent of the amazon at this point and they're doing that to farm in the amazon on which is just it shouldn't be allowed. It shouldn't be happening. We need to find an alternative way because we need this system to be functioning and bill became and can you just explain it to those who don't mean i learned about this for my kids honestly honestly who are very concerned about this. They were like gotta talk about this on the show. Why is it so important to have the amazon. What does it do that cannot be done by anything else. Well amazon is one of the three or four biggest physical features on earth and you know i mean just like losing the polar ice caps. You can't have the earth function as it does without this this bast forest there. We'd still be able to breathe oxygen. The oxygen supply is not going to go away but our ability to even begin to deal with climate. Change are already out of control problem as we know we came through the hottest month ever recorded on the planet. It is lessened dramatically. When we take down a vast forest didn't does the job daily or turning carbon dioxide into oxygen and so the i'm going to come to you on the shannon and just from a reporting standpoint so we know that nearly seventy three thousand fires have been detected since january eighty three percent increase from last year. This is going to come come up at the g seven where donald trump who apparently doesn't believe in climate change is going to be meeting with people who do including emmanuel macron who says our house is burning we sent out our house is burning literally the amazon rainforest the lungs which produce twenty percent of our planet's oxygen is on fire. It's an international crisis members of the g. seven summit. Let's discuss this emergency. I over the first two days. Act the amazon meanwhile gyro bolsonaro who essentially authorized more burning says it on the question of burning the amazon which in my opinion may have been initiated by ngos ngos because they lost money. What is the intention to bring problems to brazil. He said so. He's called the brazilian trump. Why is he simply simply allowing the amazon to be burned because he's turning it over to developers. What's going on so actually what's going on. Is that bolsonaro rhetoric ever ever since he came into office and part of what got him into office is that he was going to help turn the amazon quote unquote more productive and so what that means is that you are as paul describe your clearing land and you are turning it into something that could be farmed so the response that we're having internationally is kind of that plan isn't necessarily in sync with what we want for the globe globe and the global environment and so you had there's an headline here that says this smoke plunges sao paulo into sudden darkness baffling the western hemisphere's largest city city that was in the washington post on thursday. Let's so that picture. That is a dark plane. That's is supposed to be data. That's right and this year again. This is the result the decades of deforestation and this year the fire is so bad that you're having this eclipse from fire but this is happening all over the world and it's really a snowball effect that is we lose more forest first of all deforestation accounts for about ten percent of global emissions so just stopping cutting down trees can help us so much but as this gets worse we're going to see the resiliency of systems like the amazon masan and other forests all over the world deteriorate. Nothing is isolated. These are all connected. It's all nature it all works we saw bill mckibben that in haiti deep massive as if deforestation allowed mudslides to kill a lot of people. We've seen all over the world and we're not taking care of our landscape. What kind of devastation can follow. We have a headline. Even out of the united states eight that donald trump has pulled a ball naro and is clearing what used to be pristine land to allow developers and strip miners and a._t._v.'s to get to it. This is the new new grand staircase. They have a new plan for it. That is going to allow this. Utah was a utah monument to be essentially drilled and strip mine so we're doing the same thing here in the united states. It's bill well look yes. A classic example is going into the arctic. National wildlife refuge in drilling for oil which will add to the carbon content in the atmosphere. I should be outraged about that. The good news is that the international outrage over the last few days about brazil seems actually to be having some effect people look gathered at embassies people taken to the streets people have demanded boycotts of products and a ball so naro who is who is it by any definition. A kind of mini trump seems to actually be backing down the pressure is so great now whether or not he can rain in forces hughes. Let let loose of development of logging ranching so on and so forth remains to be seen for many years. Brazilians did a pretty good job of controlling deforestation report station. It went down dramatically from what we'd seen in the nineteen nineties backsliding in recent years as <unk> pointing out in this year it's gotten completely out of control because there's a new boss and what he wants to happen and hanan any hope that they'll be any progress out of the g seven on this i mean let's say this is a really unprecedented situation. You know bolsonaro is complaining on twitter and he gave a national address in brazil that that was booed across many neighborhoods in brazil but you know he is claiming that this is a sovereignty issue and that it's none of the world's business this is brazil's forest and they are the ones who will manage it so what happens at the g seven will be interesting reaction to that. The amazon goes outside of brazil. What can people do what can people do in our own lives to reduce the dependence on this kind of i mean we we need to completely re imagine our relationship with the natural world. I mean this. This can't be a partisan issue. This transcends political boundaries. We all need the amazon. We all need. Russians make no mistake. We are seeing an indication of the defining issue of our time yeah. We need to protect these ecosystems. If we wanna keep having life on earth i like it does killing the earth for cash paul rosalie. Thank you very much shannon simmons bill mckibben. Thank you guys very much for being coming up the most powerful religious group. You've probably never heard that's nice to this was a group with tentacles around the world they home more example sample of leadership that the world has never seen a breathtaking in mesh of church and state congressmen senators leaders and they sates about faith but there's a shared understanding that what we're really about his power like to single out dug co dutko and all of this associate the long time leader of the family. He's the most powerful man in washington. You've never heard of the new netflix documentary series the family emily examines the secretive christian group that for decades has helped tremendous political power in washington d._c. And around the world the family's best known for sponsoring the national prayer breakfast fist which every president from eisenhower to trump as attended but its impact is much more widespread and much more controversial than people realized right now is jeff charlotte charlotte whose book the family is the basis for the documentary and jeff moss the director of the series the family guys both for being here <hes> jeff i saw this and it scare the hell out of my husband and myself we've had wasser. We're like oh my god. We watched it all in one go because it is frightening. Let me quickly get out of the way. Read this response from the fellowship foundation. I have to read. This is the netflix docudrama. What does this series mischaracterizes. The work of the fellowship and intends to portray people of faith in a bad light. We're encouraged by often viewers are introduced to challenge alan by the person and principles jesus at the core of our mission end message. Let's go to you on this. How did this thing start. How did the family begin in the family began way back nineteen thirty five in the midst of the great depression. When the founder decided that the economic malaise of the great depression it was a punishment from god on america for basically for f._d._r. Policies and he gathered together group of businessmen who he felt that god. I told him were chosen for leadership. He believed that christianity been getting it wrong for two thousand years by focusing on the poor and the down and out that god wanted him to minister to those whom he called the up and now now the elites and to bring more power for the powerful so that they could organize the country in the world <hes> on principles that they believed were those of a christian kingdom and so you know i read the statement where they say these are the principles of jesus. Jesus did not minister to the ritchie minister to the poor. He said love the poor and the immigrant not the rich. You infiltrated this basically. You were there in one of these young people's houses in the family. Did you get the sense that they essentially worship the wealthy. They say the wealthy are better of god in the select. Never saw any poor people during my time <hes> spend with them. In fact we had we would have workshops and what's called biblical capitalism. The idea that capitalism is is foretold in the bible and the way that you help the poor is by making the rich richer so that of course i said they can do good works <hes> when i was living with them i was in one house. Among many an incredible selection of real estate built clustered around a mansion in arlington virginia called the cedars where i saw leading politicians senators congressman even <hes> foreign heads of state <hes> this was very much about power and not the poor deaf desi. I'm gonna play a little clip of it. Let's play that really quickly. This is one i've seen to choose the young men and then the red guard twenty years twenty twenty two years old and china a table laid out like a table they would bring in this this young man's mother and father layer on the table for the basket on the end she would take tax cut her head off the viet cong hitler mussolini with black shirt the one thing in his we pledge to be totally unified even to death breath. That was a covenant that one of the scariest seems to me jesse. What was the most alarming thing that you learned in directing this film. What's what's troubling is the secrecy of the of the group they do not talk to the news media. They've operated in secret for decades. That's a very intentional strategy and and <hes> we thought it was our responsibility to look at the work of the fellowship. Jeff's book was the foundation for our series but we wanted to know what is their relevance today. Finding the answer to that question took a lot of digging. Why was the russians by at the national prayer breakfast what was congressman robert aderholt doing in romania romania but these are not easy answers to find and yet i think the series really does reveal some of what the extent of influence of this secretive organisation is the. How much power do they have jesse. I mean you show in the series them pushing anti l._g._b._t. Laws as far as africa and in europe you know how much power do they have over our government mm-hmm and over a foreign governments will as jeff points out they don't operate by the same rules as other christian right organizations. They play a longer game. They're or not lobbying on specific legislative issues so assessing their influence in their power requires an understanding of their theology and i think that's what the series does offer offer insight to theology that explains how the christian right could embrace a president like donald trump yeah jeff you know it's just about worshipping wealth amassing wealth and substituting that for worshiping god or is there something more to what it is. They're about the family began and has always been around an idea that centers american power around the globe even as it's the most international christian right organizations is based in washington and is is based on an idea a brutal brutal reality politique alliances with the most murderous dictators around the world <hes> figures whom they call and this is their language anguish they call such leaders wolf kings and donald trump and their embrace of donald trump. You see their embrace authoritarianism that they've it always seems to promote a globally they now. They've embraced it right here. In the united states jesse wants to these people believe in democracy or they rather have power over democracy. Well i think t- democracy demands that we we look at their relationship with american politicians finding the answers to those questions. What is the substance of that relationship hip is not something they make easy to do but i think there is a tension if they're working towards god led government i think that's in conflict with our constitution constitution and our separation of church and state yeah not only that but everything that's written in red in the bible. That's the challenge here is that they're saying they're about jesus but they're also about the people who are not stable to go through the eye of a needle the very very rich having all jeff charlotte jesse mas. I highly recommend people watch this. It's called the family. Please check it out on netflix more aimed or after the break aac hey guys willie geist here. Be sure to check out this week's episode of the sunday. Sit down podcast when we revisit one of our very favorites a rare conversation station with the legend himself david letterman get it now for free wherever you download your podcasts.

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Understanding Donald Trump's Lies

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Understanding Donald Trump's Lies

"What's the point for Wednesday, October, the twenty four. I'm Chris was cutting through the political spin to bring you the news. You need to know on CNN's airwaves on Wednesday morning, Anthony Scaramucci who spent ten days at the White House communications director, but has been Donald Trump's confidante for a lot longer than that said the following about the president of the United States quote. Okay. Well, we both know that he's telling lies. So if you want me to say he's a liar, I'm happy to say he's Aligarh and quote. So that raises an interesting question, at least for me, when can we say Donald Trump is lying as opposed to misleading say something that is somewhat false and I'll tell you where I come down on it because it obviously everyone has a very strong opinion on it. I think a lot is when someone says something that they know to be untrue, but choose to say it anyway. It's the intent of it. You have to have the knowledge that what you're saying is not true and the intent to say it anyway. I don't think that that qualifies for everything. Donald Trump says, I think sometimes he says things that he believes to be true or has not been presented with the information to show that they are false. But I think if you look at any fact checker, the one I usually use the Washington Post fact checker. What you will see is that Donald Trump doesn't just not tell the truth. He does it over and over again about the same things. And that to me is when we get into the lie territory because whether or not downtown believes the facts he's being presented with, he's being presented with those facts. There's no evidence for example that there were people Muslims on the roofs of New Jersey apartment buildings on nine eleven celebrating. And yet Donald Trump says that there's visual proof that his inaugural crowd was smaller than say, Barack Obama. Inaugural crowd. And yet Donald Trump says that his was bigger. There's ample evidence to suggest that his claim that three to five million illegal votes were cast in the two thousand sixteen election is simply false. And yet Donald Trump continues to say that there's zero evidence that voter fraud exists in the country in any meaningful way. And when I say that, I mean a coordinated widespread attempt to impersonate other people or to otherwise doctor the results to benefit one side or the other. Yet Donald Trump not only says things about voter fraud, but formed an entire commission dedicated to sniffing out something that is to be honest, not even close to a statistical air in terms of how often it happens. Those are things that I think we should as journalists call lies. When we know he is saying something that he has every reason to understand is not true in chooses to say it anyway, that's where I come down. And I think honestly down Trump has been lying by that definition. A lot more lay. Lately, as we get closer and closer to the twenty eight teen midterms, he's talked about caravans, this caravan headed the United States that he says, could have middle easterners and other criminals in it. No evidence again that that's the case he's made any number of other claims. He said that there's going to be a tax cut in the next week or two when he knows congress out of session in won't be passing any tax Bill until at least twenty nineteen again. And again, and again repeating things that he knows to be false and saying them anyway. And that's when I think we can and should call him online. That's news. You need to know for Tober the twenty four th four much more. Please check my daily Email newsletter. You can subscribe to it by going to CNN dot com. Slash the point. Put your Email address in there. I'll make sure you get it Monday through Friday by seven thirty pm Easter. You can also call this audio briefing up on your Google home or your masonic device bore you can subscribe to it. Yes. Subscribed to it on Spotify on Stitcher on apple podcasts or. Or wherever you get your podcasts. It's CNN's SE Cup here to tell you about weekend warriors. It's my new foreign policy podcast which dares to ask what else is going on at the end of each week. I'll speak to a rotating cast of experts to give their unfiltered takes on the most pressing global issues facing America from the humanitarian crisis in Syria to the latest updates on North Korea's nuclear weapons program. Sure, to subscribe to weaken warriors. So you stay on top of the world.

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Special Report | Markets in Turmoil

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46:18 min | 2 months ago

Special Report | Markets in Turmoil

"This CNBC podcast is sponsored by capital group home of American funds. Their long-term approach helps. You say I can't find a firm. With nearly ninety years of experience navigating market volatility visit capital group, dot com slash market volatility American. Funds Distributors Inc... I I'M NBC producer Katie. Kramer one of the voices behind the NBC podcast Squawk Pot in these times of uncertainty. We WanNa make sure. We're bringing you our listeners as much information as possible as quickly as we can. That's why we're sharing with you now. A CNBC special report markets in turmoil listen. Good evening I'm Scott Wapner on day, one hundred, Fifty, eight of the corona virus crisis tonight, the great divide how the stock market can be so good while the economy is still so bad. One hundred, hitting an all time high stock market's recovery, more robust, many font possible, initial jobless claims, one point, eight, seven, seven, million, the story off of Wall Street is very different tonight, getting to the bottom of the disparity plus eibar taking on South West flying anonymously one. CEO's remarkable story of what happened when he flew coach in the back of the plane and the return of two major parts of the USA basketball. I'm begging us. This CNBC special report begins right now. Here's Scott Wapner. Welcome, it's good to have you with us. On this Thursday night on a day when the S&P five hundred and Nasdaq snap four day win streaks. Let's take our first. Look this evening at futures. How the day on Friday may go and we are slightly higher, though obviously it is still very early as for today, some disappointing jobs data kept a lid on things on Wall Street, still the Dow managing to scratch out a small gain towards the end of the day as I said the S&P NASDAQ ended lower earlier in the session. The Nasdaq one hundred. Hundred, which are the biggest one hundred stocks in that index, hit an all-time high before big tech sold off alphabet, Microsoft facebook, apple and Amazon all weighing on the Nasdaq today markets hitting these new highs in the midst of a pandemic and protests around this country on the eve of what is expected to be another terrible jobs report. Why isn't Wall Street reflecting the pain on Main Street? Bill Rogers is a professor of public policy at Rutgers University. Anthony Scaramucci, the founder and CO managing partner at Skybridge capital both with us, gentlemen good to have you tonight. And Anthony I begin with you when people ask you. How's it possible that the stock market is where it is? What do you tell them? I tell them that there's a water wall of liquidity. It's not a bazooka. Scott. It's like literally agreeing to Nami washing over the United States two point one trillion dollars injected since the crisis another one point nine million by the Fed to be injected over the next fourteen. Months. You and I are good friends with Cooper. He was my old boss at Goldman. We were talking about this three or four weeks ago. Some of the elder statesmen are nervous about the markets. Don't like the markets in terms of fundamentals, but it's irrefutable that the liquidity is driving the market and the adage that don't fight the Fed is living with us right. Right now bill it's this great. Disconnect the great divide whatever you WANNA, call it! You Have Wall Street. Hitting these incredible milestones, the best fifty day run for the S. and P. Five hundred in its history at a time where we're talking about thirty million Americans out of work the confirmation yet again of where we are, we'll come tomorrow with the jobs report. Yeah. Well, you have to situations where the stock market or the Nasdaq and the S&P day are they represent their leading indicators while the indicators. We're GONNA see tomorrow with the job. Support are lagging indicators of. The stock market, those those indices they capture current and future prices, and expected expected in built on expectations, which I think were embedded in Anthony's. Anthony's comment that particularly one like the Federal Reserve has said that they will backstop and help out and assist in provide liquidity for the for these companies large companies, but on Main Street when we've tried to provide a assistance whether it be unemployment, insurance or the triple P.. The paycheck protection program I. It was. It was just poorly done, and so there's into so that's why we're seeing some lagging. Responses within with on Main Street but. The the the stock market or these indices will update if you see the Fed changing stances, or if we see that going forward, we're not going to get a fourth Recovery type of packaged particularly for state and local governments. Those kinds of negative news will will I think have an impact on the on the indices? Run that they're having unless Anthony. You can start to make a case that the economy's bottomed I. mean some of the jobs data as bad and as depressing as it is could suggest that the worst of this crisis may be behind us. Well certainly, there's a lot of analysts that think that we think that it skybridge. Our economic team thinks that I'd be curious to see what professor Rogers says, but thinking about the PCP as flawed as it was the Treasury Department is saying that forty one million jobs are tied to the. Skybridge. Team is saying about seventeen million people Scott. The are unemployed as part of that forty one million. When the economy goes back on those people, those covenants require them to hire those people back. You'll see a very positive delta that will be good for credit markets. I think the stock market is already pricing that. But you and I both know that the credit mortgage are not pricing that last point without the Fang stocks Microsoft S and P five hundred down about nine percent. We've seen seventeen percent year to date Fang Plus M. And so that tells you how narrow this. Bull market is Scott although you know bill, you can make the case professor you look at now. It's broadened out. You have this so-called recovery trade. You have stocks that were seemingly left for dead, which have had tremendous gains of late on the fact that the economy is reopening Mark Zandi yesterday after a pretty decent ADP report, which was a beat. Yes, it was depressing. But nonetheless better than expectations, he all, but declared the cove nineteen recession over. Well I. Hesitant to declare it over because there are two potential headwinds out there that that could lead to a resurgence in in in the virus, which I hope doesn't happen. number one is the protesters that we've been seeing over the last six six to seven nights You don't see a lot of people practicing social distancing and in an. Talked about today and barons I urge people to be and I support people protesting peacefully, but but but there is a great deal of moving out there, and so we need to see and use our be ready to our contract tracing and the next two weeks. Just, in case we do get an outbreak also some work that I just have done to I've found that states that. Earlier with regards to beginning to move to stage one stage two stage three with the reopening, they actually have been trending poorly in some of these key indicators such as hitting. They're hitting their. They're testing targets or Poorly in terms of. The amount of virus that people are getting infected, so those are two potential headwinds to wear I. To hope that this tomorrow's report for May is the worst, but if we don't continue to get the P. to employers employers, so they can create safe and fair workplaces and consumers can be confident about going shopping, and that we and that they don't that they also they don't. If they don't get their testing infrastructure, put together this may not make. Tomorrow's results may not be the worst, but but I I'm hoping that people in companies and And the and the federal government and state local governments are we're all doing the right thing, and and enrolling all in the same direction to help us move forward Anthony you in the professor make good points. It's well understood why we are where we are because of this money that's been injected into the economy by the Federal Reserve and the federal government. The question though does become. Are we too complacent? Are we counting on things going better than they may? You know I don't think so because if you look at the magnitude of the stimulus and you calculate the economic loss. It's sort of. It's an overwhelming thing. I think we're I'm worried about it and I would imagine professor Rogers as worried. About is the evenness of the deployment. I think we can say after the global financial crisis in two thousand eight. The monetary policy helped the people that had the assets. The the lower and middle class people struggled I. Think what I'm worried about is the unevenness of the deployment. The economy will come back. The numbers will be there Scott, but we'll. Rising disposable income happened the middle class, and for the lower middle-class. All three of US know that that is sorely needed to sort of reduce the national angst. That's out there. There right now. Professor your thoughts on that it is, it is a great concern that you only exacerbate problems that have already existed between or around income inequality. You have those investors or the investor class making all of this money back while there are still as I said at the outset, some thirty million of our fellow citizens who are out of work. Yeah now, you, Anthony and you make a great point and. I've been doing some work with a local united way in Jersey called United Way of northern New Jersey and we created this concept called Alice where Alice for asset, limited income constrained employed, and it's basically how also that are. Many are above poverty, but they don't have enough resources to make ends meet in their community, and we have about thirty five to thirty eight percent of our households in New Jersey, and this is we think it's similar across the nation and and that that that have this challenge. And so one of the things I've also really enjoyed with working on the governor's restart commission is commitment to to having an inclusive recovery such that we don't replay the types of of recovery in the past where we continue to have a growing income and schism, and it's becoming really hit that tipping point to where we're starting to see many of. Of our institutions and our infrastructure, our ways of life about how we communicate with other each other and work with each other, and in our communities that that's becoming a part coming apart because of this growing schism between the haves, and the have nots and in particular where we've seen this of middle class shifting down and having more experiences like many. Many African Americans have which they were protesting. with regards to Mr Floyd Gentlemen. And! That's why we see so much more diversity in the ranks of the of the peaceful protesters. It's because. Yes, there are racial and ethnic and gender issues that need to be sorely address, but these challenges that these groups have been facing over across generation now really are affecting a broader swath of the American public. I appreciate the conversation professor. Thank you that's bill. Rodgers joining US Anthony. SCARAMUCCI, our thanks to you as well, we'll talk to both the now to the health part of this crisis tonight Dr. Dr Scott Gottlieb, the former head of the FDA now a CNBC contributor Dr Gottlieb's good to see you again. Let's begin with pick up the conversation. We're just having the stock. Market is where it is because it assumes that the economy is going to have a fairly quick recovery. How are you feeling about where we are in terms of the virus, and how cities are getting back to business? Picking up on that conversation it's hard to see the real economy just snapping back. We've talked on this show about eighty percent economy with the marginal consumer doesn't come back to certain endeavors until there's a vaccine and I think that that's that's a possibility here that you're going to have eighty percent economy restored, but restaurants aren't going to be booming. entertainment venues aren't going to be booming movie. Theaters aren't going to be booming amusement parks. Parks and that's an important part of the economy. When you look at the hospitality segment of this economy as well as some work, some office work isn't going to get fully restored until we get to a better place with the spread of this virus, and we're likely to have persistent spread through the summer at least enough to keep the marginal consumer more at home than they otherwise would have been and looking to the fall I think. Think we really face the prospect of another cycle with this virus? The good news is we're GONNA get to the other side of this. There will be technological solution. We will have a vaccine. We're GONNA get to hurt immunity. We're going to put this behind us, but I think we need to contend with persistent spread through this summer, and in one more cycle with this in the fall, and whether that's just large outbreaks and pervasive spread. Spread or we experienced a true second wave of an epidemic hard to tell right now, but this is GonNa be with us for a while well one of the issues, the epidemic as as you discuss it, it continues to expand as we speak, and you cited today a Morgan Stanley study, which said so in terms of the number of new cases. We're seeing every day which are probably as you suggested last night still under reported. Right and if you look state by state, you see states that have expanding epidemics Arizona Texas. Arkansas North Carolina Wisconsin Minnesota I'm you're seeing? Cases George seeing cases go up hospitalizations go up and the most concerning thing is to see that hospitalization data go up, and so at this point in this in this cycle in this epidemic, we should have been coming down the curve more aggressively. And what Morgan Stanley cited was relative to other nations. We've had sort of persistent spread this persistent plateau, and we really haven't crushed the virus, and because we haven't crushed the virus heading into the fall. We're going to have a lot of infection here. That's going to be the conduit for outbreaks and. and spread going into the fall, so we have a much more dangerous platform that we're coming off of I don't I. Don't think we're going to have a major outbreak this summer I. Think we're going to get that breeder that we talked about. Because there is a seasonal effect here, but what the seasonal effect is basically going to do is mitigate the spread. That's already underway, so maybe it's a wash. Maybe we continue at twenty thousand infections a day that we're turning over, but we never really get below that that's a distinct possibility, and if we take twenty thousand infections a day into the fall, which as you said is really probably two hundred thousand infections because we're not diagnosing. Mild symptomatic infections, so a lot of infection around the country to ignite chains of transmission and potentially new epidemic. I don't know that I don't I don't do market commentary and look at how the markets discounting future risk, but it doesn't feel like the markets fully discounted future risk right now, looking out to the fall. I don't know you may have a career. As a market analyst is well on the backside of this. You're doing pretty well with that. Let's talk about what the CDC. Said today said it's quote very concerned that it's warnings. Headed about distance and Max Masks, so I'm wondering your feelings about what the had to say today and frankly the fact that the CDC had anything to say today Dr Gottlieb because the fact of the matter is. We haven't heard very much from the CDC of late. Well. The CDC Director Bob. Redfield a friend of mine testified before Congress. Today I think the point about masks is very real. The incremental information that we've gotten in subsequent data shows that universal masking really seems to help reduce spread, and so if we can get more people wearing masks, it could reduce the obamacare. One study came out and said that sixty percent of people were mask that sixty percent effective could effectively get the are the reproduction rate below one, which means instead of an expanding epidemic. You have a contracting epidemic. You've basically started to shrink. The scope of spread I think what the problem is dealing with a population that a lot of people are just exhausted. We've been inside for three months. We've been social distancing and a lot of people are getting exhausted by these measures, and so you're going to see some natural relaxation among individuals who just don't do the same things that they've done before and we need to take. Take that into our public health assumptions. If we're being rational from a public health standpoint, we need to understand. It's hard to keep this going for six to twelve months in a row I'm and that's why you see sort of a phased reopening, trying to reintroduce things that improve quality of life and give people a sense of normalcy about their lives, but there's certain things that. That we should just try to continue to do, and I think the masking is one of those things. It's not that hard to remember to wear a mask and tried to wear it when you're out in public and groups, and that's one invention of fairly simple intervention, fairly inexpensive intervention. That could probably have a big impact I'd like to get you on the record tonight if If I could Dr Gottlieb on what the Lancet did today. Retracting that study on hydroxy chloroquine that said it doesn't benefit a covert patients. I'm wondering what you make of of what happened today again. If for the reminder this drug, the president said he was taking in the one that he touted on numerous occasions. What should we take from what happened at the land set today? Well I think we shouldn't rely on the findings of that study There's other studies. When it came out, yesterday showed no. No benefit from taking it prophylactically, so taking it to try to prevent yourself from getting sick. There's other studies underway looking at whether or not it could be beneficial in the treatment of patients who actively have Cova had some pretty big rigorous studies that are placebo controlled randomized studies well-constructed studies. There's been interim looks no studies which means that the data safety monitoring boards. Those studies took a peek at the interim data, and they allow those studies to continue, and so what that suggests is that there is not a strong sense that the drug would be hurting anyone because if there was a strong signal at the drug was. was hurting more people than it was helping. They would have stopped those studies and those studies are continuing I think those are going to provide a more definitive answer on whether or not hydroxy chloroquine is providing a benefit that outweighs its risks. My hunch is that if it is beneficial, it's going to be a week benefit because we've had enough now and enough experience with it to suggest that it's not wildly beneficial its benefits if there are benefits is probably weak enough that it takes a very big definitive study to tease them out. Does this change your view? Though from a doctor's perspective on whether patients should use it. Well we've we've Long said in an FDA's recommendations. Now are that people shouldn't be using it outside of a clinical trial, I believe the FDA has said that, but other other public health groups have clearly stated that that you should be using clerk outside of clinical trial, and a lot of opposite pulled away from using it. It was being widely prescribed initially in new. New. York City in fact, some of some of the observational studies show that sixty percent of people who are being admitted to the ers on average. We're getting hydroxy chloroquine. Most doctors have pulled away from widespread use of it and a lot of doctors. I know we're taking it themselves prophylactically. That stopped as well because I think by and large physicians weren't seeing what. What they thought was a really robust treatment effect here to merit using it outside of a clinical trial. Let's run through a couple of tweets if we could, and it's the second one on our list for for those playing in the in the control room for tonight, so we put up the right one because we are thinking about Dr Gottlieb sports returning Texas, now. Now saying you can have fifty percent capacity at venues. We have a question from summer in Los Angeles if sporting events open to fans this fall without medical advance. How many seats would you want empty around you in each direction? It's an interesting question as we think about whether we'll even be able to be in a venue, and then what? It's GonNa. Look like. Well, look one would be nice if you can. If you can have it I think the bigger risk inside a sports venue is the coming and going. You need to be mindful of queuing up and getting into crowds. That's probably the bigger risk. And the last one when when will businesses and schools be able to buy cheap tests for pooling testing, so they can test all employees, and maybe all customers couldn't stop Kobe before vaccines, therapies. That's coming online right now and some. Some venues using next generation sequencing I'm on the board of Alumina, which provides the technology for that because it's more sensitive tool for looking at. Let's say one hundred pooled samples at once we you can screen very large populations Dr by day. Dr Stock analysts by Dr Gottlieb. We appreciate it as always we'll see EVAC. Thought are, be sure to watch the halftime report tomorrow at noon Eastern speaking of doctors Dr Anthony Fauci, joining US look forward to that interview tomorrow on a big night for the NBA we have Atlanta Hawks owner grant hill. He's coming up next along with this. Diva Las Vegas. The fountains Iran the alcohol is flowing, and the cards are being. Don't we're talking to one of the first couples to return next? Plus knowing what to do requires some conversations. Take Place I wait until you see what happened to this line CEO when he flew in the back of the played. Before the break images from across the country on this Thursday June fourth. This CNBC podcast is sponsored by capital group home of American funds. Their long-term approach helps you say I can't find a firm with nearly ninety years of experience navigating market volatility visit capital group Dot. com slash market volatility. American Funds Distributors Inc... Welcome back the NBA Board of Directors approving the Board of Governors did today. The League's return to play with a plan of twenty two teams set to square off in Orlando Florida in July just next month. Grant Hill is a part owner of the Atlanta Hawks joins US live tonight grant. Welcome back to CNBC. It's nice to see you. As having looks like we're going to do this. So what's your reaction to the NBA coming back and what happened today with the vote? Well I. Don't think it's too much of a surprise. Certainly the news of the last few weeks I think we all felt we were moving in that direction, but I know. The League has his work tirelessly with the players with public health officials with disease, doctors and I've been mapped out a strategy to not compromise players and coaches. As we sort resume, play late, July, I know you have a couple of hats you wear. Co Owners, one former player, obviously from a player's perspective. How do you think the players are feeling tonight? Knowing that they're going to be back, but knowing that there are still going to be virus risks around the game. It was a great question. You know I i. do know throughout this whole process. Chris Paul the President of the Players Association. Has Been in constant contact with the union with its members. Also with Adam Silver And the NBA, so it's really been a collaborative process to get to this point. I'm sure there's been a tremendous amount of reservations, but I I think everyone has an understanding that. They're going to be as careful and as diligent as possible. Everything from you know where they're staying to other transported to and from venues, even the proper protocols in measures, Locker Room, and on the court Obviously you're gonNA do everything you can to keep everyone healthy and safe. An have have contingency plans. In case, someone does test positive, but. By in large from from what I'm hearing, all indications for the most part players are ready to. You know to go forward with this. Move forward and. I've talked to a few players, not just with the Hawks players are that I've known and play with currently still on the League, and they're pretty pretty fired up and excited about getting back out there and flat I bet. What do you make of the Commissioners Leadership Adam? Silver through all this was the first out. If you will to to pull his his league from play, and now he will be the first in terms of a major professional sports league to return. Well you know I think right now. There's been a void of leadership. In our country I'm proud of of the you know. The leadership displayed by by the sports community, and of course, obviously highlighting Adam silver, and you go back to March Lebanon and as we were still. Processing News Kobe nineteen and trying to understand. ITS IMPACT He was the first after. Rudy Gobert tested positive. And he pulled out, and that was bold at the top, and I think people were still trying to internalize in digest everything and and so after a lot of deliberation a lot of consultation. A lot of tough. Decisions that needed to be. Discussed in in formulated. We're moving forward right now, so I think that's according to their leadership and I'm proud that it seen on the sport that I've. been a part of my entire life I want to ask you about the events of the past couple of weeks. The ones I know that that you're referring to in in the remarks that you. Just made. That the sports world has. To all of this and again as I mentioned, you have the perspective now of an owner I'm wondering what you think. The ownership message should be at a time like this, and if you're a player, what message do you need to hear? Well I I've been proud in his players in all sports, but particularly in basketball in the sport that I live in players have have used their their voice and their platforms to address challenges and issues, and in particular. What's happened over the course of the last couple of weeks? There's been a tremendous amount of access and sharing of information, keeping each other informed and speaking out against these injustices. So. That's something that's fantastic. I think in terms of of of of organizations franchises in the NBA we have the same duty and responsibility and and so I think we all have to acknowledge that it's a problem in the problem you know. We is racist that that's the issue s the problem. That's the root of the problem that's been going on and. So we have to address it, and then we have to do more than just that. We have to figure out how we can be part of the solution, and so I'm proud with the Atlanta Hawks were having a town hall meeting tomorrow at all of our employees virtual townhall meeting. All of our employees are part time employees people work in the arena We're having open candid. non-judgmental conversation and you know people are going to talk from all walks of life, but also it's important that we listen, and we take the time to try to understand and try to feel We're all feeling, but what we all have experienced and the pain and we're going through it so. We look we. We have a duty. We have a visibility. As a sports league as a sports franchise, and as athletes, and I believe with that comes a huge responsibility. To address the problems in work, you know feverishly to try to try to fix them and make a difference grant be well. We'll talk to you again soon. I appreciate your time tonight. All right. Thank you all right. That's the NBA Hall of Famer and now co owner of the Atlanta Hawks Grant Hill Las Vegas. Casinos, reopening today for the first time in nearly three months as the Bellagio opened its doors and restarted its famous fountains today visitors applauded and pour it in same thing could be seen at the MGM Grand Caesar's Win and others, big crowds and long socially distanced. Distanced lines but gamblers are finding. It's an all new vegas half empty casinos, more detailed, housekeeping no-shows and gallons of hand sanitizer, one couple wasting no time hitting the Strip again Tanya and Davor Nellie or travel bloggers made sure they were in Vegas where its grand reopening, and they are live with us tonight from the WYNN hotel. It's so good to have you. Tanya and Dave Welcome. Thank you. I'm dying to know Tanya. How does it look? What was it like? Merry Christmas now. It was very interesting you know. We got here the night before the reopening third very quiet. It's still very quiet here on the strip. Compared to what usual Las Vegas would look like, but they started the reopening in the downtown. Fremont area I and it was. It was quite exciting. It was definitely a a little bit on the crowded inside as the night went on, they had opening up twelve or one with a few of their choice. CASINO RESORTS AND And it was it was quite interesting to see not always the opening the energy was kind of Hind by rent, obviously a city that similar to new. York City that never sleeps which you know silent for quite some time you can obviously understand the eagerness for folks to get back into the swing of things here. Honestly safely I of course a Dave, any trepidation whatsoever on your Antonio's parts. It'd be back in Las Vegas at the beginning and see how this was going to go. Well, certainly, we are cautious. We wear masks and. Use, a lot of alcohol sanitation, all of that and make sure social distance, so we definitely take very seriously but at the same time we also believe we need to start somewhere and. We really believe in what the Las Vegas Strip casinos have been doing a lot of time, stated precautions and social things. We want to support that as well and get out here. Support the employees and the we love. Las Vegas is coming out here at the star was born to us. What do you make though Tanya? The fact from what we understand the video that we've seen today. It's not required that you wear a mask inside the casino. That's a bit of an interesting dynamic with. Right now, but I do believe that's anywhere. I think that's something even at the airports. It's not mandated that you are physically require. The can't force it upon us so I do believe it's it really comes down to us as individuals to really heat the guidance, they can put the rules in place, but it's up to us to follow those rules and guidance to keep everyone safe, so you know I think it's important for you know. Obviously we do have to start somewhere, but it's Kinda one of those times we start somewhere. We all have to start somewhere. which definitely requires US ought to take those guidelines into perspective I mean. Mean they put them in place obviously so that they can start opening the doors, so we have to meet them on that other side of the fence and follow those rules. You guys are about the best experts to talk to in terms of travel, I suppose in this country right now. Dave, let me what are your thoughts on where we are from travel standpoint where you're gonNA. Go next and how long you think it's going to take before. Other people are as comfortable as you. Guys are to get on a plane and go somewhere. It's interesting because. Tiniest Senate is very important for folks to wear masks, especially planes and we want to see that as well. We encourage that the best we can. And I know it like airlines are pushing more and more to make sure that made that mandatory as much as possible, and that's very important, and we actually feel we're very very careful. Be Tried to create that distance now. We've had the benefit of not being on really packed flights yet. Right so things really pick flights. Get more packed. Obviously, that's a little bit a different situation, but right now start I mean we've been able to really maintain that social distancing itself. How long does it take I? Think you know we'll have to. Tally time will tell really and also one of the results of these early stages, and you know obviously you have that two week period right so abby care and I still feel that the vegas capacity is still running at a fraction of what it would. So there's still a lot of fear in terms of that, so folks are anxious, but they wanna see. They WanNa see what's happening. You know we do feel like we are in a position where we can do loss. We're following the protocols. and we do feel especially where we're staying here at the way that they have definitely taken those steps a seriously and rigorously. Very impressive baton so again it's up to us as individuals that traveled to meet them. You know right in the middle and follow those protocols. We don't like them for right now to actually get back seen. Part of us all right we'll, we will all be living vicariously through both of you. Most importantly have fun. Be Safe, and we'll check back with you i. hope and see how this all went, and maybe where your next stop takes, you guys take care. I. Appreciate that wonderful. We are you as well. Here's what's coming up next on CNBC special report. On Airlines CEO's remarkable story about what happened when he was sitting unrecognized in the back of a plane on a recent flight and the big change from American universities. This isn't about social distancing. It's about something that's already changing. WHO GETS IN? That's two minutes away. Support for this podcast and the following message come from American Express. In eighteen, fifty of promise was made to back you in times of Plenty. N. during times like this, not promise still stands American. Express is proud to support small business owners through the sun precedent time, and whatever comes next. Help your small business. Get back to business visit. STAND FOR SMALL DOT Com. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Getting into college in the USA is about to change, plus it's something I've never ever. One business owners crazy twenty four hours learn the lessons of his great turnaround tonight. This CNBC special report continues once again. Here's Scott Wapner. Welcome back American Airlines CEO Doug. Parker, sharing an emotional discussion, he had with an African American flight attendant on a recent trip. Here's what he told CNBC's Philibeaux today. So I bought a ticket on South West flying anonymously with a mask on. And sitting toward the back, I brought a book on board. Read particularly given the events of today. that a board member had recommended to me. Called White Fragility It's challenging book about how? Racing American and white people in particular have trouble talking about race, and even those that those of us think we're progressive. The flights I walked in I. Guess I'm a caring unbeknownst. And with A. Little bit of time left in the flight. She came, and she was working up toward the front of the back to back sat down in the aisle where I was in the window and asked me about the book. said she saw me bring it on and just wanted to talk to me about it said she'd been going through. Struggling with this individual sharded talk to her about it, said you know. As Best I could. The what the book talks about is. We need to have these conversations. And then she started to cry. And it was it was it was I did my best to? To receive what was really a gift to me, she was she was. She's the one. Who started the conversation I have a voice. And those of us that are privileged. With leadership have I believe. A responsibility. To use that privilege that gift To breakdown bearish those that are less privileged. That was American Airlines CEO Doug Parker today right here on CNBC. Moving on as of two thousand nine, there were more than three hundred sixty nine thousand students from China enrolled in US colleges and universities, but because of uncertainties over the virus and other factors, thousands of Chinese students are deferring enrollment for the fall putting fifteen billion dollars in tuition money in question, bring in College, Admissions Consulting Sarah Harverson. She's the owner of Application Nation, Sarah. It's good to have you with US tonight. Ain't so much glad to be here kind of decline. Are We truly talking about tonight? It depends on the institution. It could be five ten fifteen twenty percent sometimes higher, so it's a significant portion of the undergraduate population at colleges and universities across the country. We're kind of schools. Are we talking about really a broad mix all across the United States? Public private highly selective all the way down to colleges with very high acceptance rates. This has been going on for twenty plus years. He's colleges. Universities have relied on Chinese students for so long for. The totals for high test scores full pay students so that they don't have to provide financial aid and merit scholarships to American students, so they are really a buying for the coming year and possibly more years to calm interesting point. Possibly for years to come to do, we think it might be temporary. Are We truly concerned? This could be lasting thing. Well, you know, we're looking at the fall class. The incoming freshman class and these colleges are wondering if these students are gonNA, come if they're going to be re issues, even if they're able to enroll and take online classes back in China, whose colleges are losing all that money for room, board dining, fans and all the other campus add on services that bring in a lot of tuition. Dollars are a lot of revenue to institution, but looking forward to the fall and following years. You know those admission staff. They have a responsibility to recruit those students in China in every college. College, admissions officers at least one maybe multiple people that are targeting all the recruitment efforts in traveling to China. You're not able to travel this. All those colleges could see a huge decrease in the number of applications. Sometimes, it's a couple of hundred. Sometimes, it's thousands of applications coming from China, and then ultimately that will impact their enrollment coming from abroad, because looking at the international student population, the biggest country outside the United States that provides applications students to American colleges is China and what you're saying is those students are typically paying full freight for lack of a better description. Nats rights got so you know per Chinese students they are willing to pay sometimes the full amount and most of the time. If colleges are targeting Chinese students, they're only admitting students who can pay the full amount sixty seventy eighty thousand dollars a year depending on the institution, especially a private institution, those colleges can't rely on the training. Students are going to be looking to American students been American families. They want need based financial aid. They want merit scholarships to me. That college experience much more affordable for their child. Also. Thinking about the fact that it does potentially open up a lot of spots for for us, families and kids from from this country to go to schools, they otherwise might not have gotten into. That's true, but if we're looking at the incoming freshman class, somebody's colleges still have active weightless. They're going to hold onto those weightless throughout the summer, but the longer those colleges way because they're not sure about those Chinese students coming to campus, Rabin able to enroll the harder is going to be to get an admitted student, the weightless to actually come those incoming freshman students. They've. To another institution, they found a roommate. They pick their classes. They done orientation. They may not say yes, but also we've seen a number of colleges, dozens and factor over the past month reopen their admissions process. So even if the deadline passed, January first were seen some colleges like Furman Muhlenberg. Dickinson Franklin Marshall. College opened up and start accepting applications at this late date I was dean of admissions at Franklin and. And Marshall for a period of time, I know that they get a lot of applications and students from China and so they are probably really scrambling, and that means that they have a gaffe. Their role it target is Yup. Is One is at one point, and they need to fill in that gap or students. If those Chinese students don't make it interesting story one, we'll continue to follow Sarah. Thank you. Thanks for having me good. Sarah Harverson joining US tonight a lot more ahead on this CNBC special report. Thank? Let me think outside the box next tonight. Turning Lemons into a business saving idea. This guy now has more employees than he did. When the crisis began his story next. Before the break our world on day, one, hundred, Fifty, eight of the pandemic. Under the crushing pressure of a global pandemic entrepreneurs have had to think fast to keep their businesses alive tonight. The owner of produce business shares his struggle to adapt shift and succeed here CNBC's Andrea Day. It was the emptying I. Ever felt in my life. It was devastating just hours into the pandemic and Michael along those wholesale produce business was crashing hard within the first hour I had let go seventy employees the restaurants he service was shut down and he was left with about eight hundred thousand dollars in produce. He had to sell fast I. said I gotTa Think. The me think outside the box less than twenty four hours later. He had a plan something he had never even considered both were I. Should we have to do this? We have to do on business. And everybody looked like I was saying with sales flat lining. He invested and delivery boxes and magnets for the trucks to promote the new business and created a website. Jing noise and I was like what is that and I? Take out my phone and that was. The first order goes like this is crazy. Within the first week. I was able to bring ten more people back. Four weeks it was it was seventy and we've since hired eight more people. When? It was the exact moment when I said. This is another business we can communicate back and forth with them with things on sale new items, and it's something I've never ever done before. I never needed to do and now every day. Whatever sales you have, it goes into your account. I believe it's an eight to ten million dollars business that happened on accident. It happened being scared. It happened crying. It was said, but it turned into something. That is the best decision that I made in business ever number one thing that I did I went with my God and I believe in myself more important than anything in the world for CNBC I'm Andrea Day. Appreciate that report Mr Longo by the way tells us, he believes when restaurants reopened his wholesale business. 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I'm a Celebrity...Get Me On Here!

The Information's 411

18:09 min | Last week

I'm a Celebrity...Get Me On Here!

"It was my birthday if you weeks ago. I turned twenty nine. And like a lot of birthdays these days mind was more subdued, no big party, no going out to a fancy dinner. But I got an unusual birthday message. One of the best reporters. In the world. That's pretty amazing. My pleasure to you, so let's say care man and God. Bless you that. Was Oakland a's outfielder. Ramon Riyanto, a real life, Major League Baseball player, wishing me a happy birthday. The nine year old in me would have been awestruck. And the twenty nine year old me was pretty stoked to. A few colleagues of mine at chipped in to pay about thirty bucks to get on to wish me a happy birthday. It was a great surprise. Thank you team information. This all happened through an APP called Cameo, which is having a bit of a moment right now. And today on the information four, one one, I'm talking to the CEO of Cameo Stephen Colonise. My name is Corey Wiberg by the way, and I'm a reporter at the information. Kenya's growth has fascinated me. sperling through the videos on its APP is kind of absurd. It's famous and semi, famous or barely famous people, sending video messages to fans there snoop dogg Anthony Scaramucci lots of influencers, some of which I've heard of some of which I haven't. The videos are often kind of poorly made or not professionally done at all. Cameo kind of seems like the sort of unexpected success. Story that Silicon Valley is known for in Galanos. The CEO told me that revenue has grown six hundred percent over the past year. So I think it's worth taking stock of cameo in this moment. As you'll hear go on us, discuss. This looks like it's become another golden age of consumer APPS. There's tiktok discord. Robin Hood all growing immensely this year. They're evaluation soaring. I think it's GonNa be interesting to see cameo is also part of that conversation. Stephen Gonesse Cameo. Thanks so much for joining us today. Thanks for having me historically in your life. What's been your relationship with celebrity? Are you the kind of person who who's always kind of sought out famous people to take pictures with or autographs from my my nickname since height, larry since kindergarten has been the mayor I wouldn't say that I'm somebody that's like always sought out celebrities, but I've always been one of those like all tra- connectors I was an athlete. I I also have done movie production. Production as well so in many ways like straddle the worlds of sports and entertainment for most of my life, but I've. I've somebody that Ab never the person that's going to go take a picture with somebody or get them to sign something, but if you go to my condo in Chicago I, have a lot of like cool pieces of memorabilia and I'm an avid collector. Autographs or paraphernalia and stuff like that, but I was never the one that was like going up to like asking them to take a picture with big. Sports Guy. I feel like that's how a lot of people sort of experience celebrity. In some way, and that sort of your interest in sports I was reading helped drive the idea for cameo initially right? What's the origin story? Co Founder Martin was an athlete at USC, he ran track, and we actually had the idea for cameo leaving my grandmother's funeral places. Martin pulled out his his phone and he showed me the video that he'd gotten made. For one of his good buddies from. From from Nike who was very high up in their consumer marketing department. This guy had just had his first child and he was a big seattle. seahawks fan at Martin got a player on the Seattle. Seahawks to congratulate him on becoming a father, and this guy thought it was so cool. He put it on instagram. You said it was the best gift he'd ever gotten. And I saw that video I had the Eureka moment, and the idea for Kanye was born and walked me through how you built up the same side of the marketplace. You know that, is you? I think the reason why you cameo has generated a lot of interest among the Silicon Valley sat is that it is rare that? An APP is able to kind of generate bows consumer demand as well as sort of supplier saturation to some degree. Talk Walk me through the early days and even to now. How do you convince celebrities to participate you know? On the early days we had. We had marketplace for fans, but we had no fans that we had a marketplace where celebrities could make videos for fans, and there were no celebrities on it, so we started first with going anybody that would say yes, so we tapped into our networks from Duke from. from people we again met over. The years got some of our friends to sign up. But, frankly we launched the business with a bunch of people that and nobody would ever launch a business with. We had very high conviction in our marketplace supply could be get demand so unlike uber or AIRBNB. Our supply is famous. Has Followers have twitter have instagram and have a way to to basically let their followers know that they're marketing this this service and they could turn their hours, and our customers for free. That was a really powerful flywheel of growth for us, so as we acquired we get, we would allow them to have their own site can't dot com slash. Corey might have been your page. You would have tweeted that out to your followers. Your followers turned into our customers for free and the network effect factors compounded over. Forty thousand talent now on the platform in over one point, two million cameos sold just this week. There was a cameo that one hyper viral that Carol Baskin. From Tiger King made here here with the mates. Charlotte happy birthday and she was singing a fifty cent song to it with her husband, and they were drinking Bacardi and the video fit because. That's one of the really fun. Things about cameo is that the best ones are enjoyable, not just for the recipient or the purchaser, but for anybody that watches them. And there seems to be a lot of divisive people on the platform. As well like you have Roger. Stone you had Rod Blagojevich. Obviously, division sells. We know that about media conflict cells. And these video seem to be quite popular. How what do you think it is about sort of these divisive characters that are particularly popular on the platform I? Don't think that there's a high number of divisive people cameo. There's just frankly a lot of people on Cameo, right? There's a lot of divisive people on. Twitter as well right, but we have forty thousand talent some of them. Happen to be controversial to to some people. We believe is a place where anyone with fans should be. We have three rules on the platform. No violence, no nudity Indo hate speech no inciting violence rather and as long as you don't do those things on our platform. We're fine with you being on our platform. And I think it's kind of interesting to see how certain people? Have have even transformed. Raghav Blagojevich. Choose the former governor of Illinois who ended up in jail? Giving some guy advice on like going to prison right and it's like. It's kind of interesting to see the second accent. A lot of these people have had on the platform. Yeah, that's interesting How much? Is Being Cameo, a kind of managed marketplace versus a completely open marketplace. On the supply side, how much are you? Going out there in convincing certain celebrities through business development relationships to get on Cameo, and here's the pitch versus is it happening organically about fifty percent of the talent today are recruited by. People that work for us about twenty percent of the talent. Are referred by talent. That's on Cameo, so we have a talented talent referral system. So very famously steed, showed snoop dogg cameo. Snoop thought it was awesome. He saw how much money I was making was having fun making cameos within i. t's Cameos and that's how we got snoop Dogg on the platform, and then about thirty percent today, and that's an increasing number Just download the APP and we've never met them. We don't know they are so. You're seeing that percentage. Continue to rise. As the marketplace is growing and becoming. More popular especially on the townside. So what are the growth? The growth stage challenges that are keeping you up at night. It's like what's breaking like. What's the hair on fire issues that? You're probably freaking out that you're not paying attention to while you're doing this interview. There's always a couple of things I think it starts with hiring. I was at linked in prior to starting cameo and Jeff Weiner at every single. All hands used to always say that talent is our number one priority the other thing that's just kind of interesting is. We're creating a new category. There's not very many businesses in the world that look like ours. This isn't running a BB company where you can just go plug in you know the VP of sales that one and and basically it's Renton repeat same business model. You know we've. We've created a new marketplace with new dynamics. That doesn't look like many other things out there, so finding people from outside to bring them into the core. Is always kind of a challenge because you can hire for experience split. It's almost more important that you're hiring for. Aptitude and ability to kind of grow with the company. I wanted to ask you a little bit more broadly about sort of the consumer tax base. Over the last several years I mean particularly I feel like this complaint peaked maybe a couple of years ago, but you would hear a lot of frustration about the death of kind of hot. Startups and that all the opportunity had agglomerated towards big tech and facebook and Youtube. etc I mean now. You have obviously Tiktok as sort of consumer tech story of the year. I think you guys are certain the in that conversation as well, but do you see more interesting consumer startups particularly that you are in this? Sort of social entertainment realm you know. Are you watching anything? Any particular companies that that you find interesting, I think it's absolutely a new golden age of consumer. Now I'm seeing a lot of things. Probably as early as anybody is, is young founders reaching out to me? In the consumer, space or anything, you're touching influencers or celebrities or sports. A pretty early. Call at this point. I think we're houses. Doing is really exciting. There's a lot of things going on in audio generally. That are interesting. TIKTOK is a perfect example I mean when we I remember when I saw musically for the first time it felt like. while. This is so Jin Z. like nobody will ever be able to use it. And now you're seeing like a rod and J., Lo and mainstream celebrities making tax every day. I, think podcasts have been something that have just continued to to blow up and that works around. That are interesting. I. Think you're seeing. You know a lot of lot of tools that are actually enterprise tools that feel I consumer tools. Getting created and and as people are. Zoom now has like three hundred million monthly active users up for my ten million right before cove it. A lot of interesting applications are being built on top of those. By think synchronous video is certainly having a moment when you go on instagram and you look at how many people are going live today. It's crazy compared to what was happening. Maybe before cove. It said think I don't know. I've been running cameo for four years. I've been consuming consumer products for my whole life and I feel like the stuff that's going on right now is interesting. Is it's ever been what I look at things like facebook. It seems like a dead Shell. I don't use facebook except to get notification of what I did seven years ago and where I was or or whose birthday it was. And even instagram for you know for the beginning of I think of how much hours probably spending on instagram pre covid versus post. I've never used instagram last since I got into it nobody has sent me a snapchat and probably five or six months, I was literally looking at that and talking to snap engineer that we just brought over and. Like thirty weeks, somebody had sent me a snapchat. So just feels like a lot of these monoliths. At least for my demographic people like trying new things right now, and and it's a really interesting time for consumer. It's almost counterintuitive in a way considering one of the other dominant themes in tech right now, at least that journalists pay attention to is sort of the antitrust debate. And you know has the size of big tag companies. Sort of squelched innovation. Among consumer, startups and others I wanted to ask you a little bit though about Apple, I've seen I've seen you quoted before you know kind of. Lamenting the cut that the APP store. Cakes. Think you had avoided Trent. Do you still avoid tr-? You know sort of making transactions through irs. We actually didn't even so cameos in the irs for pretty much all of last year because they. Decided after one year, that cameo needed to use an APP purchase and pay the thirty percent by Apple's own admissions, the companies that need us in-app purchases or those that digital good, so that a digital good is it good? That cannot be consumed outside of the APP, so imagine coins, game or filters in the napper. Or something like that cameos are made outside the APP there used outside of the APP so you can go and put a candy on Instagram. You can put in a cameo on twitter. You can put it on your TV so literally like our tool should be. Our product should be treated just like five or just like others that don't have to be subjective that tax, but when you get to be the judge jury, your executioner like apple does. You can do monopolistic things and I think somebody's GonNa. Get them eventually. It's it's amazing. The ecosystem that they built but It's completely reasonable that they should be making more from cameos than Kanye makes from Camby Al and I think that chorus is just getting louder and louder as you saw what happened with dot, com, and some of the other practices and. A apple at some point I think that the government is going to have to take a look at what they're doing. You guys describe yourselves I, think as A. Remote I company your your your main offices have been in Chicago and Venice, but basically you're you're you're taking the plunge to to you? You can be remote I essentially. Cameras are distributed company. If there was a vaccine to the coronavirus tomorrow, we will not be going back to offices. We have always had a distributed DNA I founded the company distributed from my co founders, and our first employee was in New York when they were in. L. A. and I was in Chicago. So we have always developed core competency around zoom and. A synchronous conversation I think that talent is evenly distributed around the world and opportunity is not so the fact that we are now able to recruit in markets that aren't just Chicago or la, our traditional hubs. You know we're able to give the. Opportunity to work your cameo to people all over the place and we've been able to get some great talent there and. We'll stay distributed. Our team's been loving it and unless. A day comes where we feel that. We're at a competitive disadvantage. Not Having officers or not being able to build culture, not being able to onboard anyone but. All the signs overseeing it's really well with our team and We intend to stick with it indefinitely, so we're really excited to start this new chapter in Kamya Steven. Thanks so much for joining me today, thanks! That's our show. If you have feedback about today's episode or thoughts about cameo, you can email me at corey at the information dot com. Thanks to Areola Markovits, who produces the four one one talk to you all next week?

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The Dems Never-Ending Conspiracy; Interview With Anthony Scaramucci

Bill O'Reilly's Free Podcast

09:53 min | 1 year ago

The Dems Never-Ending Conspiracy; Interview With Anthony Scaramucci

"Welcome to the no spin news. Tuesday may seventh two thousand nineteen take your country back this morning on Florida's Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell. I'm not a big fan of his as you may know, I think he's a swamp creature. He could have gotten case law passed when I was promoting that he did not was never an explanation. But. He went out to the Senate today's listened enough with the Muller stuff. We I'd vexing problems here in the USA. They've got to be dealt with enough of this. Okay. We got reported two hundred eight four pages every American can read it if you think Donald Trump did some don't vote for him. But congress has got to move forward. I thought it was very logical. All right. Then of course, Elizabeth Warren desperately trying to hold on to the. Fantasy that you'll ever become president which you won't gets out there for almost an hour. It's says always guilty guilty guilty. Look miss warrant. You don't believe in due process. We know you don't you're a witch hunter whatever you say really matter to fair minded people. And this isn't a democrat Republican thing. This is an Elizabeth Warren thing. All right, so Harvard professor she knows what do processes. She denies it. Anybody? She doesn't like anyway, then she goes down a list of all these people form prosecutors who have convicted Trump of obstruction of Justice. I read one of their articles today, they lose a whole bunch of foreign prosecutors who signed a petition saying President Trump would have been charged a of Justice had he been anybody else. All right. That's an opinion, you're entitled the hall that opinion. But when I read the article of the woman foreign prosecutors said, well, this is it she's basing everything on conversations that President Trump had not action conversations. Where a guy like Trump ruminates about everything he's not thinking, gee, if I if I try to convince somebody to take it easy in this investigation because nothing happen. That's obstruction of Justice. Not that what he does. He just ruminates about says, what's on his mind saying and doing different things you can say you want to rob the Bank. But if you don't do it, and you don't plan it, and you don't have big guns in your house to carry it out. You're not you can't be charged. There's such thing as conspiracy. But you've gotta take active step. Trump is just mouths off. You wanna punish them in destroy them? You Elizabeth Warren, and you're Mary Democrats, and we'll take a quick break Bagai, Anthony Scaramucci, it if you are over the age of fifty I have an important message for you. There's a true alternative to AARP the liberal retirement group that lobbies in favor of. Progressive policies for less than twenty dollars a year and amac membership gives you members only pricing on car insurance roadside assistance discounts on hotels and travel. Cellphone plans discount dental plans and on and on and on and on. So please joy more than one million fellow Americans right now at amac dot US. That's amac dot US. And yes, I am a member. Visit amac dot US. Amac dot US. Let's bring in Anthony Scaramucci, he's in Las Vegas. I guess making a lot of money. So that's what Anthony does. I got a lot of questions all over the place for you. Now, a book called Trump the blue-collar president. And basically would your book said was that he appealed even though he's a billionaire to the working men and women of the country now that he is being battered every hour on the hour. He's a bigot. He's. Crook with with food knees. This is that do you think that the working people? Are now more skeptical of him than they were two and a half years ago when a vote no, I don't I don't think that that's it. I did or two things going on with the president. He's not gonna like me saying this all brought to be dipped into the favorable poll again, but there's a there's a what he's doing a Bill and there's how he's doing it. And so what he's doing is been nothing short of spectacular in this. He is the president that shows everybody that real good policies work. But how he's doing it. And the and the confrontation and the controversial nature of some of the things that he's doing as causing this uproar could cause some Trump fatigue. You Daryl example that you don't like. Okay. So when you're calling Rex Tillerson dumb as a rock on Twitter because he said something about you. It may feel good in the moment. But what it does is to white suburban women were trying to teach their children about anti bullying. Being it could be a turtle. And so he he got fifty two percent of those women last time he needs that same coalition to win reelection. So that would be one example of an example that would hurt people that are more participants is the market's doing gray. Why do you need to be tweeting about the Chinese right now to upset the more get, you know, you're going to get the deal done with them. You're on the two inch line. Steve Mnuchin was at the Bill can conference last week saying that he thought the deal was getting done this next week on your ruling. Play devil's advocate there from what my sources tell me the Chinese pullback stuff that they had agreed to. So we're Mnuchin and everybody else ought to deal was imminent than a Chinese walk and a guy. I don't think we're going to do that and that teed Trump off. So he threw the anger Nate. And they're going up. You may not think I'm serious, but I'll wreck your Konami because at twenty five percent tariff would. Okay. You better you better come back and be reasonable. I think that's okay. Well, well, okay. So let's let's agree that that happened. And then let's go back to the how question I think you are. I would probably have handled that differently. I don't think there was any need to drop that kind of a hand grenade. So it's that level of bombast that could potentially tire out and fatigue. Some of the people that the president needs to win reelection. I'm not saying that's going to happen. He's likely going to win. But I'm just pointing out the what and the how with this. Controversial. I we're going to quick right back with male. My final thought of the day is. I'm going to bring Marilyn Monroe into the conversation. It recently I had a great conversation with the CEO of the Hartford gold group Sanford man, he's a true entrepreneur. I like those kind of guys looking to provide customers with the best possible experience when they invest in physical gold and silver. So right now, the Hartford gold group is giving you a free silver coin to viewers of the no spin news exclusively you, just go to WWW dot Hartford. Gold group dot com forward slash no spin or you can give them a call at eight six six four eight four zero five one seven eight six six four eight four zero five one seven tell them O'Reilly sent you to get the free gift. Okay. I was getting a little mail going on late. It would be good to see Muller testify. We could ask how long he knew it was. Uh-huh. Collusion. Why all Democrats for his investigation. Why didn't investigate the dossier pies abuses, or the democrat contractor who tried to collude with Ukraine? I can answer all questions. So Muller might not be necessary. All right. So the investigators knew there was no collusion about a year end. According to their notes you hired all Democrats because they were as friends, and that's who really dominates Washington DC. He didn't investigate the dossier fives abuses or democratic. Contractors because that wasn't in his purview who wasn't allowed to do that. Now, should Mahler toast. I'd like to see a debriefing of Robert Muller. But a fair debriefing, not a clown show. Which is what Nadler's committee would be. They try to make them look bad. They try to humiliate them. Then Republicans you're this or that, you know, we really nation really need that. So I don't know how it's gonna shake. I assume molars gonna show up to do it on may fifteen. Okay. Here's a final thought. I'm Bill O'Reilly dot com. So the other night, I'm watching Turner classic movies. And the misfits comes on I'm going. Wow. You know, Marilyn Monroe's not just as ditsy blonde. Good actors, but it occurred to me was watching it because Marilyn Monroe died, very young and had a really screwed up life and never really found. Happiness. It occurred to me the talent GIS isn't enough speed to groups and. Students. And I said look, find your talent. Everybody's good at something everybody. That's why I believe in God the word. No, God, there'd be people who just walk into walls. They couldn't do anything. But every human being has a talent every one of us find it and then use it to build a good life. That's my final thought and tomorrow. Dennis miller. He's Joe Biden's big pal. So Miller on the no spin news. We'll see you. Then.

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August 12, 2019

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

01:38 min | 1 year ago

August 12, 2019

"Good monday morning. I'm jay sherman and welcome to your political playbook audio. Briefing stay tuned after the show for a message from google some twenty twenty four news vice president. Mike pence is heading to south carolina august twenty six for jeff dunkin's ninth annual faith in freedom barbecue. The other speakers jim jordan joe biden has taken to the new york times to call alford assault weapons ban. One of the big holes in this campaign is no one is explaining how they'd get these policies through republican senate breaking overnight. The airport in hong kong has been shut shutdown due to protests. The hong kong airport is one of the world's busiest airports a few bites jeffrey epstein news. The new york post is reporting. The autopsy has been complete but the cause of the death has not officially been announced the miami herald catalog just how difficult it will be two cs epsteins homes and money. It looks like the chicago tribune is taking out the prison where rod blagojevich pitches in advance of a possible release. They had him running yesterday. Shirtless at the prison the new york times shane goldmahcer cours comma harris's pivoting and making a play for iowa the post and courier in south carolina's joe biden is trying to avoid collapsing like hillary clinton did in the palmetto state. Anthony scaramucci told axios that donald trump might need to be replaced based on the ticket. There's a fat chance of that happening. The president has no events today. He's in bedminster subscribed to playbook at politico dot com slash playbook grow with google supports small businesses businesses by providing tools they can use to get online and reach new customers and through digital skills workshops in one to one coaching. We bring free training on those tools rules to businesses in all fifty states learn more at grow doc koogle ford slash local businesses.

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30for30+ "The Loophole"

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26:01 min | 1 year ago

30for30+ "The Loophole"

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That's ZipRecruiter dot com slash three zero. Once again, ZipRecruiter dot com slash third. Hello and welcome to thirty for thirty. Plus, my name is Jody Avirgan today. We go behind the scenes and talk a bit more about the loophole. The fourth episode in our new season all about Nomo-mania in the summer of ninety five and even more so all about the cultural and legal backstory that allowed Hideo Nomo to come and pitch in the major leagues. Joining me in the studio, Andrew Scotto who produced and reported this episode. Congratulations enter you look completely caught up on sleep. It's remarkable. Thank you. No, it's been quite a process. But I'm glad it's and I'll add at that. Andrew you also made this film, the zen of Bobby V. So you've reported before on Japanese baseball. The other reason I mentioned as an of Bobby V the film is because also in the studio is Bobby V. What a coincidence. Tommy, John getting Tommy John surgery. So body downtown longtime major league player and manager who also managed was it six seasons in the Japanese league seven six contiguous, right? And then there's that one little one. Okay. I did my math Ron this morning. But Bobby thank you so much for joining us. And of course, you know, this film that the two of you did together which I love I will say came out maybe ten eight years ten years. Yeah. It's about this sort of culture clash and meeting of the cultures that took place. When you Bobby went from the majors two n p b and this podcast documentary about Hideo Nomo kind of about the reverse a player going from Japan to here. So we will get into some of those culture clash themes. But first, let's start kind of what we've started all these bonus episodes so Andrew hinted at we do a lot of editing and go through a lot of different tape in. There is inevitably a lot of tape that doesn't make it into the final episodes any piece of tape that didn't make it into the final episode that you wanna play here for us today. I think the story of Nomo and his. Effect on major league baseball into it came over here was tremendous. And I think one of the initial stories that we had going into it was not only Nomo, but the, you know, Decky who and Affonso Soriano who interestingly enough came from Japan, and gene after Don new Moro who discovered and seized upon this loophole that allow Japanese players to come here had some interesting things to say about ushering those players over from Japan before the posting system was created. So whenever Don, and I would meet any player in Japan. Nomo three auto it Abu any player we had to do. It was cloak-and-dagger. We had to do it super secretly queer down. Like this getting a taxi driver on Tokyo several times sneak through some rechange taxis. Go through a garage. You know, I mean, super spy stuff. We surprised to hear about that kind of stuff. I mean, the piece the documentary gets into some of the media backlash, but did that any of that kind of really heated stuff that cloak and dagger stuff surprise, you know, we'll because as you mentioned, I I learned about the story ten years ago. It was actually eleven years in two thousand seven when I was filming Zana, Bobby V in Japan. And I remember standing at batting practice before one of the games and Bobby pointed out down the is the guy who brought Nomo from Japan to the major leagues. But the story I didn't know was the backlash that Don felt and what was interesting enough is done his came from a baseball family. His stepfather is hall of fame baseball player and manager in his own right? And I remember Bobby talking about just the the backlash that team owners and fans had towards Nomo into Don NoMura. So that was always an element of the story that I found very interesting was that it wasn't this fairy tale that I think in hindsight, it's. Bobby were you in Japan that exact year when Nomo left empty and went to the major leagues as a matter of fact. Yeah, I was the first American to ever manage in Japan, and it was in nineteen ninety-five. And luckily there was the strike. So there there was a little break in the action. When I first got there, everyone is in the upper, and they were kind of angry at me Nomo Nomo's leaving and I had nothing to do with it at all from that Japanese. So what was that? It was absolutely amazing in that. There was not one person in baseball in Japan who was wishing him. Well, that I came came in contact with everyone wanted to fail felt that he used the worst charactered at ever come down the pike. And that this guy who speaks English who happens to be kinda related to one of the greatest baseball players ever play in Japan was the agent in the agent idea was a bad idea. Also as the agent to to set him free was all part of the story. So what when they weren't playing. And he wasn't in the major leagues everyone said he'd never get to the major leagues. And then when he started to pitch in straight people out it became an amazing phenomena, and I want to get to that phenomenon. But also since you were there in that year. Andrew in the peace refers to this. Kind of wall that had been put up for thirty years between Mira commie and Nomo. Did you get a sense of that? When you arrived in Japan that there really was this wall between the two leagues and the two baseball cultures. Oh, absolutely. That there is a fear that as Jackie Robinson was taken from the negro leagues ten years later. The negro leads did not exist. There was this same fear that all the great players. We're going to leave there'll be nothing left for the Japanese baseball culture. And why would that happen then? And there were people who are really against it in the wall was was had electric city. Well, also, Bob, you experienced even before Nomo you'd gone Japan coaching clinics and the like in the eighties. What was the perception among major leaguers Japanese ballplayers back in even before Nomo? Yeah, it was that there was this subservient. This second level. Second tier mentality that the Javanese players really weren't good enough. And I believe that that mentality was instituted to keep the Japanese players in Japan. It was because they weren't good enough. It was so they would not leave that culture of baseball. And I thought I think it was really good plan. It's too bad. That Don Maura more blew it up. Another thing. I love in this piece, Angie that you captured was also the sense of how the culture around baseball in Japan is different and special in a way. There are these scenes at the Tokyo dome. There's rob Dibble talking about going and seeing fans just sort of behaving way, they wouldn't in the United States. I don't know Tom about Japanese baseball. But this this feels like one of the things I hear over and over. I just wonder if you can describe exactly how special that environment is. And then also why the United States maybe hasn't been able to capture that. Well, it is. I mean, again, it's something that I discovered ten ten eleven years ago when we were making Zimbabwe v that. Baseball. Without a doubt is the number one sport in Japan. It's it's no longer the case say in the United States, but it's in Japan. It's European soccer American football. It's American baseball rolled into one. I mean, it's all comes through that one sport. So the fandom is passionate to the level where fans take off work to travel with the team for the summer. They take off work for the entire summer travel. So so so that I mean, that's something that I think is really special about Japanese baseball. We got into the Zimbabwe v. But it's also something that I when I spoke to said Jean afternoon as an American who went over there on the you can talk to any American who who's experienced Japanese baseball game and not hear their impressions of the fandom and the passion because it is so different. And I think it is just a cultural thing, I think in the United States. Baseball's more of a picnic kind pass pastoral. You know, you said you drink beer, you watch a game, whereas Japan, it's more of a manifestation of. Other cultural elements. All right. We're gonna talk a little bit more about what's in the piece, but I gotta take a quick break. So we'll be right back. Here at thirty for thirty. We tried to reward our listeners with great stories deep reporting and compelling characters everyone wants a reward and discover is committed to rewarding their new card members with cash back match only. Discover offers dollar for dollar match all the cash back you've earned at the end of your first year automatically with all that extra cash. You can get great seats to the game a concert or maybe buy some new headphones to listen to your favorite podcast on go to discover dot com slash match. To learn more only for new card members. Limitations apply. All right. We're back in Andrew. Let's let's talk about the peace. And I don't think I've told you this. But I don't know exactly how to phrase it. I think last week when I was listening to one of the rough cuts of this piece had this realization, maybe I should have had a lot earlier like, oh, we're kind of making a legal procedural drama in a sense. I mean, this is about lawyers discovering something deep in, you know, the the contract, and that's the kind of big moment, and this sort of showdown between lawyers. Did you have that sort of same sense that like how do you build a story around something that on its face is going to be a little dry because it's about, you know, causing a contract. Well, exactly, I mean, I I actually that was the impetus for all this into working title. And then the actual title is always been the loophole. So to me Nomo-mania, there wasn't really any drama Nomo-mania. Because once he was a success everybody in Japan in the US love Nomo. So to me, the conflict was always the escape from Japan. If you will. There's a lot more layers to exploiting the loophole. There were letters back and forth between major league baseball Commissioner's office in the Japanese Commissioner's office to confirm invalidate loophole. I mean, Don was very meticulous in very Japanese fashion to make sure that if ever somebody raised their hand said, no, no, no. You can't do this that he would say. Oh, yeah. Well, here's here's exhibit A, B and C. I wanted to make sure because they would always change their stories. I wanted something in writing. Japanese league. So I asked a club in the states. He wrote a letter to the US Commissioner asked him to Japanese Commissioner, and it came back within a week saying that voluntary tired player is able to contract with the US majorly. So non-confrontational culture. Okay. Lawyers are not part of the culture. Okay. An agents and agents for sure, but lawyers also you go in with a handshake. I worked there for seven years on a handshake. And you know, I it's that kind of respect of what the other guy is doing and dine comes in from left field with this loophole that he explodes, and it works and it worked with the for the other lesser players that, you know, Andrew mentioning. Yeah. Well, it's a very American concept and Shigetoshi Hasegawa who's in the piece we interviewed who is another Japanese player who had contemporary of almost wanted to go to America said, none of the teammates, ever, read our contracts. It was all about the spirit of the deal. The handshake agreement between us and the team that we kind of just trusted them. Right. And I mean, you know, the notion of a we do this all through a spirit of working together through handshakes is nice. But then of course, there's an. Behrendt William talking about, you know, an employer at an employee. There's an inherent power dynamic there, which is what ends up happening, and no more really was being exploited. So let's talk a little bit about where Japanese baseball stands right now. Is it is it really given that every great Japanese player is going to come to the United States. Are there players playing in Japan who could compete here and are staying there for one reason or another oh, absolutely in the one reason the others. Why should I leave? You know, the they're they make a lot of money. They are stars of above all stars. You know to come here. They have to learn where the pie the food. Learn how to get to the stadium learned this new language. Learn these new league's players, you know, that's not for everyone. And you know, the talent doesn't necessarily drive you to play in America. The talent drives you to play every day. And a lot of them are very happy doing that in Japan. Nan? I think that's what makes down Nomo. So unique. Is even in talking to Masanori more calming for this or even a guy like Shigetoshi Hasegawa? Both of those guys said I just want to live in America. It wasn't so much of whether or not I play if I could make a living playing baseball in America too, great. But it was more about just going to the United States Nomo really was driven to play baseball at the highest level. So there's guys like that. There's guys like each row Matsu E who who are driven by. I just wanna play against the best. I don't care where there is a big theme in this piece about this this backstory of Masanori Murakami who I think a lot of people in the United States certainly don't know about. And I love that. We just sort of snuck this extra little story into the back background here of this piece. And you say it's at one point that, you know, kind of Nomo was able to do what Murakami was never able to bring himself to do which is advocate for himself. Can you expand on them? I mean, what what what is the difference between Nomo Murakami that led them to make two pretty different choices. Well, I think the difference. There's there's two major ones right full. I is generational is more commies thirty years before Nomo, and he just grew up in a very different ship postwar Japan, where it was still very much entrenched in traditional Japanese society. You're supposed to obey your parents are supposed to obey your elders. So when there was the pushback what a bad idea, by the way, you. As far as concepts are concerned without a doubt with at. And but but he just grew up in different time. I think the second the second element to is is the desire. I think more commie wanted to live in the United States, first and foremost and play baseball second. Now, he's that's what he told me. So he wasn't really I don't think willing to put his foot down and dig as heels into say, no, no, no, I want to compete on the on the San Francisco Giants, whereas Nomo, you know, so he's a generation younger. So he's been exposed to maybe a little bit more western ideology. I mean Hasegawa had a good line. That didn't make the podcast. We're you know, wait a minute. We're not North Korea. We're not Cuba. Like, we should be allowed to do what we wanna do. So that was that was the that was the kind of thinking that that no mos- exposed to and also Nomo just was a competitive person. He he is the the the prototypical athlete who is from my understanding kind of as a singular focus. Of eat sleep play baseball. So on this question of this happening in the the year after the strike, and you know, I think most people would look back at their early mid nineties and say the thing that saved baseball after the strike was Sosa McGwire and the home run chase in nineteen ninety eight at that was the thing that really got back excited about baseball. But in this piece, several people say Hideo Nomo was responsible for saving baseball. So can both of those things be true or we because he was before the home runs, and and he had Pt Barnum. Remember, he had Tommy Lasorda the guy who is going to single ended -ly tell everyone that baseball's alive, and well, and it wasn't just the old players that he was going to promote it was this new fee. Numb. It was this you've got to come and see him. He's the greatest thing that we've had since you know, for Nando Valenzuela. So there was a again a perfect storm that he was part of and the tornado. Really took effect and you remember Sosa McGwire is not until nineteen ninety eight that's three seasons after the strike, the impetus for wind tell the story was that. I think it's overlooked. No everybody, maybe remembers Nomo-mania, but they don't realize the impact that it had. And it was a story that hasn't. It's never really been told before in the United States. It's in this format, and certainly never been told in Japan because of the way Nomo left in doing the research for this piece. We found some Japanese produce documentaries on almo and they just kind of gloss over he just showed up at a very good pitcher. Here's a great pitcher in Japan. And then there's usually a shot of an airplane taking on on. No most striking out batters in America. So it was so it's still touchy subject there. I think here people just don't haven't really appreciated the immediate impact. He had a coming off of the strike that season. The other big story was Cal Ripken's streak. Right. But even I found an old press conference from the all star game even Cal Ripken was asked about normal. I mean, everybody was fascinated and I think because of the. Cultural significance. There was something that transcended baseball. It wasn't just baseball fans. Coming back to the ballpark. You had Asian Americans all over the country excited to see somebody that they saw as a new role model whereas Nomo now is he he's living in the United States Nomo splits his time between Japan and the United States. He is a business partner of Peter O'Malley's who former dodgers owner. He's also a scouting adviser for the San Diego Padres, you were sort of hinting at that. There may be hasn't been a kind of reconciliation or reckoning or kind of warm embrace even all these years later between Japanese baseball. No, no there. I mean, no mos- revered as a as a national hero over there had a doubt. It's just when you start poking the circumstances, which led to his departure is where people will give you some sort of revisionist history of. Oh, no. You know, we're we're we're proud of him from the get go. We want him to follow his dreams. It's it's, you know, right. And they kinda why. Washed the story a bit. And that's kind of what we were trying to get to it. This was was nailing down what really happened and and how the call too, right? Right. The calls. He had overcome against all odds. Yeah. You know and listeners I will test that this was a big reporting challenge and push on the part of Andrew to get people to really go back to that moment, and describe how difficult it was in those months because there is this kind of revisionist history going well and just as we talking about the phantom of Japanese baseball being fuelled by Japan being different culture. The attitudes of people being interviewed in Japan are dictated by the the different culture. So we're thinking of it as an American standpoint of all going to put a microphone in front of you. And you're just gonna spill your guts. That's that doesn't happen. So the challenge going into this was here's a great story. That's never really been reported since the time it happened. So we're now over twenty years later, but let's get Japanese people to to be forthcoming is definitely was a lot of took a lot of effort to to get people like Kozo Ave, who's a newspaper editor who we interviewed in the piece the fine guys like. That that we're willing to speak to the reality that. Yeah. There was a lot of people unhappy with a domino. And as much as Deo Nomo wanted to be a major leaguer. He always wanted to beat remained Japanese. He doesn't talk about it either. He doesn't consider himself a pioneer. He doesn't want to you know, wave the flag and say liquid. I did for all these other players. He just wants to say I did what I wanted to do. I wanted to be a star in the major leagues. Okay. I want to end on a bit of a left turn here. But Andrew listeners might be interested to know that while you were working on this piece about Hideo Nomo. You were also working on a documentary film called mooch, which is about Anthony Scaramucci, most of our listeners know who that name is. But one of the big parts, I promises a connection here. One of the big parts of this documentary is we were just discussing Nomo is so reserved and even keeled so I wonder. For you. What was it like to work on a piece about someone like that at the same time that you were working on a piece about someone who I would say is decidedly not reserved not even keeled? Frustrating. I guess. Yeah. I mean, Anthony Scaramucci is a guy who knows how to talk. He's he doesn't hold back. I think the challenge there was finding the moments where the true mooch came through the because he's very media savvy is very good on camera. But also was was cognizant of the times where you know, I want to find those moments where he wasn't on that project was a four years in the making documentary. I started filming them in twenty fourteen is just kind of this fly on the wall. He struck me as fascinating creature of Wall Street. But yes, Anthony, Long Island is is probably the furthest. You could get from Osaka. Japan. We're down almost from very different personalities. But I think what the the what they have in common, and what Bobby story, and I think a lot of these other projects I've worked on having common. Are these these figures who kind of make their own rules? If you will who who you know, I kind of classic is maybe a word. I mean, Bobby story when did this Anna Bobby V was about his? Desire to bring to Japan some elements that could help baseball because Japanese baseball from a business standpoint is run very differently. They don't have deep minor league systems, for example. So that was one of the things that we were falling Bob in two thousand seven he was trying to get Japanese baseball to develop more players for Japanese baseball, especially if players are going to be leaving to go the United States. And so yeah. Scaramucci also the same same way, he's a hedge fund manager and hedge fund managers, traditionally aren't outspoken. They're not Anthony Scaramucci, and so same thing had almo- baseball players in Japan. The time we're supposed to just stay in Japan and play baseball. So. Scaramucci is an amazing character in and into captured him by, you know, his mom said, this is the essence of if any. And you got the mom endorsed. You know, you've done something. Right. Yeah. This was frankly, a good pallet cleanser coming in that project to work on this. I mean because mooch we shot four years worth of material, and they're totally different animals. So so this working with you and with Ryan Intel and everybody else here was absolute joy. Well, you've started to give the shout outs here. And I will continue to do that as we wrap up. Ryan tell our producer here worked really hard on this as did Derek John a producer. This was many many many months in the making, but I'm really happy with how came out, and I hope listen as well. And so I'm assuming everyone who got this far has heard it. It'd be very weird. If you listen to all of us and have gone in listened to the documentary, but you should also go see the the mooch film that available on Amazon de yes. In your nearest them's on. Okay. Bobby valentine. Thank you so much for doing this. This is really fun. Oh, fun for me. Thank you. And thanks to you, Andrew Scotto and congratulations again. Thanks jury listeners. We have one more episode in this season coming out next week about Ricky Henderson and the very tail end of his career. He played until he was almost fifty years old. So we try and explore why that is. So keep your ears out for that. And one thing as we wrap I will say that we are doing an event around this here in New York City on Monday, December third, so we'll have a great conversation about some of these same themes. We'll also play some more tape and get a chance to chat with us. We would love to see you there. Again, that's Monday, December third and you can find information about that at thirty for thirty podcasts dot com slash events. My name is Jody Avirgan. Thanks again for listening, and we'll see you soon. Here at thirty for thirty. We tried to reward our listeners with great stories deep reporting and compelling characters everyone Luntz award and discover is committed to rewarding their new card members with cash back match only. Discover offers dollar for dollar match all the cash back you've earned at the end of your first year automatically with all that extra cash. 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Backstage on the Scaramucci Redemption Tour

Trumpcast

47:17 min | 11 months ago

Backstage on the Scaramucci Redemption Tour

"I know that alabama was in the original forecast. They thought it would get as a piece of it. It was supposed to go actually we have a better map than that which is going to be presented where we had many lines going directly many models each line being a model and they were going directly through and in all cases alabama was hit. I feel sorry for the president and that is not the way we about the most powerful figure in this the u._s. President has never before done a thing even remotely like what president trump did tonight in the context of this storm and so i don't even know what would count as relevant historical context here if i tried to make up that story hello and welcome to trump cast. I'm virginia heffernan. My guest today is anthony anthony scaramucci. Some of you may remember anthony served as the white house director of communications from july twenty first to july thirty first. I two thousand seventeen depending on whether you count the twenty-first as a whole work day. You know how that's usually the day you like your desk. See where the copier is anyway that means it was <hes> it was a short time so he was a may fly and as a man who prides himself on his hot blood alpha male status as he calls it and his passion scaramucci would probably rather burn out than fade away but it seems he's done neither having had a change of have heart about trump whom he used to vociferiously defend scaramucci is back making the rounds on cable tv in op ed pages in the hamptons on his own podcast on on twitter and now on trump cast so i have him on does this just amplify the voice of another blowhard trump trying to extend his fifteen minutes. It's by seeing which way the wind is blowing. I mean i wish i didn't have to address that but listeners who know me know that i'm having him on the show because because i love converts their stories are so strange and haunted and familiar and wretched and personal amazing grace grace the him uses that great word wretch to denote the person who needs to be saved by grace. They're opposite words wretch little twisted where grace ace so open and forgiving and in conversion narratives you get to hear people wrestle with their own status as wretches you get to hear why they changed and you get to imagine a person. Even wretch like the rest of us can change sometimes converts into religions and cults converts out of them. Mm-hmm are detached from their experience. They don't know quite why they embraced nexium or the moonies or scientology but others can reflect deeply on what motivated wanted them to override their consciences forfeit their dignity and join up in this case with a racist con- like donald trump scaramucci is one of these. He talked to me about his working class. Upbringing his coke addicted brother his status anxiety in class anger his fear that trump's power became an aphrodisiac for him. He talked about his hope that he had pushed back here and there where possible he talked about his humiliation and being fired and even talked about how his his intoxication with trump was so great that he missed the birth of his own son if i ever had any doubts about having the mooch on trump cast i oh i didn't while he was talking. He's a figure for so many americans who because of whatever their personal histories their emotional and cognitive vulnerabilities fell under trump's spell better than that he's a figure for how they can break free for all it makes my head spin to think of <music> anyone with eyes to see an ears to hear not despising trump onsite scaramucci told me a plausible story about how a working class kid kid who saw shot at the big time might have hitched his wagon to trump's star and no scaramucci did not call bullshit on trump or see him as a grave danger. When most of us did the seventies eighties nineties or at least when he announced his campaign which is what makes the story of scaramucci so compelling because the way out of trumpism is probably not going to be chartered by democrats and liberals rather the way out of trumpism may end up being chartered by those who understand its allure. We're so deeply that they once led a capture them joining me on the line. Is anthony scaramucci all right. Let's jump in anthony. You are such a virtuoso at your awesome arias. You know you're like an italian tenor talking about politics felicia your recent change of heart but but i wanna take it as i was auto felicia but go ahead yeah county but felicia seems like a good word for tenor. Doesn't it seem like colosio more of a baritone but that's fine. Keep going okay. I want to get to the real anthony and it seems like part of you does too so the late great. James gandolfini once told me that playing tony soprano was eating him up inside and one day would kill him and for view. It must have been hard playing a character and trump world for so long no. I don't think so. I mean just remember what coco chanel said. I tell my kids. This coco chanel said that you get the face that you deserve at fifty so you gotta just be yourself in life otherwise you'll end up with a crooked and craggy face as you know yeah. I'm fifty five years young to be myself every day. When i wake up i recommend that for everybody else so you know in james gandolfini casey's he was a method ethic actor and obviously brilliant at it and that was a very tough job to play because tony soprano was obviously super complex character but i wasn't really playing a character. I applauded what president trump as a candidate was doing and i think i got overly bias that i would say this to everyone of your listeners listeners. Three or four things happen to you. Were all human you have confirmation bias bias as a result of your upbringing and then if few get close to power guess what has power is an aphrodisiac empowered corrupting and so if you think you're above those natural forces look in my life okay because i am not above those natural forces and i fell pareja some of them in certain areas so when i was out with the president he was campaigning in areas as of the country that were blighted and there was levels of economic desperation and these were working poor people. It was very reminiscent to the way i grew up. You know my dad was a crane operator. He had a job as a payload or operator. He was in a local union. He was an hourly worker. Never went to college. My mother was a housewife but there were very high blue collar middle class wages back then and those jobs don't exist anymore virginia so so when he was out there talking about that and the restoration of that and providing hope and opportunity for those people even though i was a scott walker supporter a jeb bush supporter i was attracted to that and secondarily when he started saying things that were nonsensical and tweeting things that are nonsensical so what happens from a psychological perspective as you go through a lot of cognitive dissonance right. You've bought the car. The car's not working super super well but dammit you made that decision the by the core yeah you started justin yourself to the lemon side of the car yes and so now i've been blown own from the white house unceremoniously due to my auto felicia comment but we both know that that's not really true. It was more related to how much press i was getting. The president doesn't like anybody in the room. Getting any level of attention like the kissing death from president trump is hey. You're getting his famous as me or you're getting more pressing me if he says that to you. You're getting blown out very quickly and so that's why i got fired no big deal. I didn't wanna wanna be a baby or wigner. After got fired of the charlottesville thing came up literally ten days after i was fired i spoke out against it. The the <hes> child separation policy was exposed. I spoke out against it. He was in helsinki again trying to support the president but i spoke got against the repudiation of our intelligence agencies in front of the president of russia. <hes> i wrote an op ed. You can find it at the hill. Just go to l. Dot dot com at the press is not the enemy of the people so i was trying to stay loyal to him but also be trump apologist and so red letter. Things started started happening. Crazier things started happening in my mind. Now liberals people on the left people that dislike trump or conservatives that were in the anti-trumpers romper never trump movement. They could be justified in their criticism of me by saying well. He hasn't really changed that much. He was like that and so you're late to the party. <hes> mhm and i'm willing to accept that criticism but what i would also say to those people he is now an international danger if he gets reelected and we go four more for years of this nonsense it will have devastating consequences to the american alliance global trading system and to how he perceives the world golden how he's going to try to project that on the world trump cast has been a very hospitable place to people like you who've had changes of heart. We've had max boot boot on here. We've had a former trump troll on here. We had people who've worked for trumper worked with trump and who have rethought it or have even rethought their republican allegiance in you do a very nice job that cognitive dissonance of driving a car that keeps malfunctioning on you have to tell yourself well. This is the way this b._m._w.'s supposed to drive arrive or you know. I'm just going to overlook this. This isn't so bad he said gaslight yourself about it no question yeah gaslight in the country and so what i said to liz smith who's <hes> people is calm selector. I'm very impressed with the mayor. He's got an amazing temperament. Great wealth of knowledge unbelievably nobly packed resume for seven and i was watching him this morning on new day and i was a he was expressing compassion for our derange president <hes> you know taking shore to weather maps and saying the president she and jerome powell who's a bigger enemy to the united states and there's a litany of the things that the president has done in his trump noble meltdown over the last month yeah and he was expressing compassion trump noble. That's terr- noble well. That's very nice. I said the jonathan swan after my go more appearance that this is a full blown meltdown in the early episodes of the chernobyl h._b._o. Mini series yes were the the reactors melting and now the apparatchiks the bureaucrats around around the reactor have to now make decision or are we going to clean this up. <hes> were we going to cover it up. Yeah my favorite part of that and and i think it's relevant is when the dust similar the geiger counter only went up to something like six point five meaning and it had hit that height but everyone no one had ever seen seen anything higher before so they didn't know how to react and even the measures didn't go high enough. That's how i think about nancy pelosi right now her count her metric. It doesn't go high enough for this this particular disaster but wait. I gotta get to something about what about what about mcconnell kevin mccarthy. I mean all the gym jordan's the hacks the responsible ensemble adults right. We're in a full blown nervous breakdown. We're in a full blown mental mania now from the president of the united states. I gotta get back to you. The the compromise that you made while you were driving this lemon car though chief among them was the lying and sean spicer of course walked back at least the the walker about up the inauguration crowd that he told and michael cohen has repented on his way to jail of course for what he called lion for mr trump for at least a decade yeah. I love how he says it lion for mr trump and even giuliani says he's worried now that it's tombstone will say he lied for donald trump. How about you. We'll tell tell me where i live for him though because i again i'm not trying to live in denial. I only did one press conference. Go look at the press conference. I answered every one of those questions honestly okay. I'm going to give you a classic. This is going to be in bartlett's. You've got okay. Do you know what it is. I'm not sure the president is visibly infirm. He's sounds hard time walking upstairs. He's sluggish. His golf swing is weird. He can barely throw paper towels to suffering people in puerto rico. You say i have seen in this guy. Throw a dead spiral through tire. I've seen them in madison square garden with a topcoat standing in the key hitting shots. I don't see this as a guy. That's ever under siege all right. Please tell me and seeing them sing putts to win a golf match and the point. I was making the second deal to stand behind of coming. Gotta you gotta you gotta ask. Jim kelly the quarterback for the buffalo bills <music> and again. This is trump from twenty years ago <hes> throwing that ball through the tire. Go ask them okay and you gotta ask people even think spike lee was is there when trump walked out with the top coat on and he shot the remember. This is when trump was just a little bit of a lunatic popular popular icon in new york city. You know how on the howard stern show and we were at a i think it was a knicks bulls game and he hit the shot shot not from the top of the key from the foul line with the top coat on and so i didn't tell lies the problem is there are no cellphones back then and i'm not sure if there's recreations of this but there were many people that saw you can ask keith schiller so okay. I will definitely ask keith schiller. Get the madison square garden tape. See the topcoats see him. Hitting free throws november one shot the foul line they they pass on the ball and he shot yeah but the but there was a metaphorical description going on there when they were asking me can you handle pressure is he under siege uh-huh and i said no. I think this guy is not a gun waiver in the shootout and the o. k. corral the guy's not gonna waiver. He knows how to hit the target. He is commit different in my mind from two thousand sixteen twenty seventeen now in two thousand nineteen july. 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From cox you can find all all your favorites all in one place it is it have the youtube you bet el what about that netflix thing netflix too and although superhero movies kantor has all the latest titles on demand. Oh my grandkids love that big green guy. I prefer the one with the hammer myself okay i. I think we're done here now. Get all your favorite apps shows and movies right on contour t._v. from cox. I have to go back to this because for all trump calls tells the media fake news. I don't think i have ever seen him even request much less. Get a correction on a fact. It's crazy eighty. When i was at the times i would get you know correction about when destiny's child broke up or something about mary tyler moore's production company you know once a month but trump has never forced or asked for a correction so i wanna go just the details as a former fact checker and say i have seen this guy throw a dead spiral spiral through a tire first of all i had to ask my former quarterback boyfriend what that even means and he said that's a very challenging to do so i want to ask you. Where did you you see it and how far away was he from the tire and wasn't an ordinary car tire again jim kelly because he was also there with you. He he was okay and ask him and he threw the ball through the tire and we were laughing and of course trumping trump he was very proud of himself with the whole thing and so and then secondarily the shot at the at the at madison square garden go to keith schiller president bodyguard ask ask him bodyguard former bodyguard and so you know you just ask those guys of those things happened and if they didn't happen happen and i made them up or i may imagine them i'll go for neuro psych evaluation and then because i think the president is one. I'm happy to go from one myself but but if you're if you're going through three years of my advocacy for the president and you're picking out that one thing and you're saying okay hey mucci were aligarh on that one thing okay okay. I actually don't think that's fair and i don't think i was a liar and i'm supporting it with evidence but if you wanna make a different indictment of me which i think is more are accurate and fairer indictment. Hey hey hey mooch. He was gas lighting you and he was gas lighting the country. Why did you allow wow that to happen to your yeah. That's how i see this. You were amplifying his idea of himself as always fancy better condition in perfect you know able the throw a dead spiral through retire and i'm gonna tell you something that's very ugly and very truthful but also happens to be very human and it should be a a cautionary tale for every one of your listeners okay that question is a fair question and that is a fair indictment and i'm gonna tell you something thing that i don't like about myself also going to suggest that it may be human and it may be part and parcel of our human condition when you're that close to power and you're sitting in the white house and you're in the press room behind the podium that says the white house and you're trying to curry favor with your boss. Okay you allow yourself to move the guardrails of your principles a habit how 'bout that and i am embarrassed about that and i have to look at that honestly and objectively and say that to you front up and say it to you but i also have to tell you if it could happen to me it. Maybe you're a better person than me. Maybe you're more moral. Maybe you're more principled but maybe you've never ben in that situation and it may or may not happen to you and this is one of the reasons why i recommend people read the federalist papers because our founders unders were very worried about that they were worried about the corruptive force of power and absolute power and that's why they diffused the system virginia and so all i'm saying to you is if you think that happened to me. I'm willing to admit it. There are people inside the white house right now that that's happening to their either either afraid to admit it they don't wanna be outed or a humiliating by the admittance of it and they are in a siege mentality in a stockholm likes hostage hostage syndrome crisis or worse than that. You want to hear something worse than that. They're rationalizing their saying well. If i wasn't here here this would be way worse than it is right now yet trump nuts. I'm here saving the country yeah. That's what i've heard that bill barr lar- says he's either saving the country or the republican party but you're not doing that bill okay what you're doing is you're enabling madness and we have somebody at the top of the food chain now that is mad. He's expressing ania and a full blown nervous breakdown and so you know i'm speaking the truth breath and you know these guys are equivocating so if you say well what what took you so long to speak the truth. I'm a human being you were drunk on power and we've all been there. I oh same and being is the answer. I will say you referred to my own. You know sort of moral center fiber as something that would keep me away from it. I think it's wore my vanity. I just can't can't imagine being under trump's them. I hate troubling and i hate lying for other people and i hate it. Just seems like a forfeiture of dignity that i'm so oh surprise that so many alpha males like yourself made i ask this all the time for some reason you fell into this thing. It's almost like the nexium cult or something something like why you why bar why all these people that i would not you described yourself as an alpha male on your podcast recently as someone so much flirts arts with your wife you like put his head in the toilet and alpha male to the third power. I shoved guy's head in the tour right so you're you're a tough guy. I said stop flirting with her. I flushed the toilet twice and then i picked his head up out of the toilet but you you asked me a question is what can i answer. I'm actually this is a bit of a wind up because i wanna say something that you and i do have in common which is eight years ago i myself underwent are went a religious conversion and a wrenching personal change by admitting i was an alcoholic and getting sober but that followed a dark night of the soul where i literally felt twisted in knots for you know months beforehand so i want to hear about how your conversion happened and was it agonizing thing like mine or did it. Did you ever bright light moment. No as i wrote in the washington post i did not have a road to damascus moment and by the way you know i have a brother that has suffered with addiction and i've got addiction issues in my family and i don't have substance addiction issues but obviously have work. Hall is an addiction issue so my heart goes out to you for being so honest about it and thank you and i would also recommend to you and i'll send you the link. I did a podcast with my brother about his cocaine addiction about the struggle that we had growing up together what the issues were in our family and how we you know went in separate directions but love each other and how he went out of in and out of rehab four different times and i would just recommend if people are. You're listening to your podcasts. That had these issues to listen to it because it's okay. It's okay it's okay to be honest about it and it's very healing to do what you did for yourself and what my brother has done for his for hisself but you're you're asking me the question so i want to answer it by telling you the following when you love the country and you grew up a blue-collar rough and tumble environment and you get super lucky where you know you're born with decent enough brain rain and you've got enough talent and hard work where you end up at the harvard law school and yeah there's no legacy there's no donation there's no nothing you're just scrapped after way there and now you have to figure out a way to pay for it and you pay off all your school debt you go to goldman you. Bill two successful businesses and someone one who you liked definitely liked them not going to lie about that and had a good relationship with goes on to become the president of the united states and asks you for help and you have literally lived the american dream. You know you're going eighty. Five people ten billion under management. You've created some level of financial. Independence and security for a couple of generations of scaramucci is including my parents have been subsidizing since i left law school and now you have the opportunity to affect policy help the american people forgive me but i was drawn drawn to that as an alpha male a beta male a say to mail whatever you wanna call it i was saying hey i have lived the american dream. The opportunity serve the american president in the white house. My first job was to be the opio director which was to be the president's chief networking officer. I was okay. That's a good job for me. It's fits my skill set. Let me go do that. I'll help the country was that idealization was that stupidity was that naievety tapei all of those things but you have to remember you know. I didn't grow up in a country club. I don't add a hit a gop ball. I don't know how to hit a tennis ball. I couldn't go to my hi dad virginia and say hey pops. What was it like in that rough and tumble corporate public leone companies boardroom right. He didn't know he got up at three fifty in the morning. The lunch was put in the refrigerator but my mom at ten o'clock he was at work at five o'clock in the morning got home at three fifteen in the afternoon soon okay and he worked his ass off okay outside and hot and cold weather for forty five years and so he's a very good guy yeah and <hes> very hard worker but i couldn't go to him and say hey pops. What do you think right and how about a few million dollars to launch my career or how about a call to harvard. Well exactly what the eighty missing mooch. I am finding this very poignant and i haven't heard you talk about this before. The class subject brings to mind the long history of american politics of a kind of piscopo salion mayflower. Hi hats. I'm thinking of robert muller emmett flood the bushes acting like they own the whole american joint. I don't know if you saw this movie. The quiet american a very waspy guy says you know the jews have tradition. The italians have their this that everyone has their this what a wasps have and the character played by matt damon says we have the united states of america neural just visiting right but there's a history three of those wasps disdaining the so-called white ethnics. I've recently heard that that's you and me italian and irish who come in to their spaces to harvard vertu ti d._c. With coarse language crude ways they can't keep it together. You know what to say to that old guard who keeps saying and i'm part of this. I'm always on twitter under the bush family say who might see you and me and whoever else as a carnival act that is that pure snobbery or is there anything to say for more kind of propriety priority and politics listen. I mean you know we're in a very different country than we were in a hundred years ago fifty years ago and it's transforming transforming exponentially today and so what i would say to those people that by and large they did a very good job. <hes> there was too much racism the introduction of the country with the original sin of slavery all of those things we can look back through the prism of history and collection of our current morals and we can judge it. I choose not to do that. I tell i tell young students when i'm speaking if you've driven in a car or or flown in a plane three hundred years from now when they eventually clean up the environment and we're no longer burning fossil fuels they'll look back on the period eighteen fifty the twenty twenty one fifty and say you guys were disgusting. Pigs and they'll start taking your statues down. Yes i don't wanna go back or forward. What i want to say is where we are for now. <hes> i use some crass language. I'm a neighborhood guy. I was trusting a reporter and i and i said something regrettable <hes> but i can tell you that i know members of the bush family have used some four letter words in their life trust me and members of the muller family. I don't know to them but a guarantee that they've used some four letter words. Maybe the romney's avenue and i know them pretty well. They probably haven't okay but by and large where people and what i say to people that come from that puritan wasp presbyterian culture that america in order to last be this lasting republic be this lasting great experiment it has to adapt and it has stew reframe its mosaic reframe the woven nature of our tapestry and one of the things that the president is doing is. He's this unifying us. If that's a word okay i'll be george w bush and make up some words on your podcast. The country's first name is united and at the end of the day whether my parents were hit or called derogatory slang or my grandmother was told to go back to the country that she came from she loved this country and they love the country and i'm enormously in passionately in love with the country because we were able to actualize here we were able to find a niche and we were able to live to our true dreams. We were able to find that aspiration and this is a gift that this country has for people but i will tell you something. The system is broken. Get if you look at economic rent attribution. I'm a trained economist running a lot of money. If you look at the balance between labor and capital distribution right now it's sixty two capital forty labor but roughly when it's fifty fifty virginia the country's very happy when it goes awry and go sixty forty you get this divide. You get this anxiety. You get this class. Envy you get this wage crisis you get this. You know oh class crisis if you will and teddy roosevelt who's the father of american progressivism was a republican and he brought the robber barons to the white house says he was building the west wing. He said hey guys you got to knock this off. We need building codes and standards. He read jacob breezes book journalists journalists how the other half lived the tenements were collapsing in east new york. He's hey guys. We got to cut this out. We are not like these people and he signed legislation sure. My grandfather always said this about him. He didn't like him very much because he's he signed legislation in one thousand nine hundred ninety four that demarcated italians as non caucasian for immigration purposes <hes> and my grandfather always brought it up didn't like it but one teddy roosevelt when you reflect back historically he recognized that he had to create a system or a society where people were getting some sort of a fair deal henry henry ford was a racist and was loved by adolf hitler very flawed guy but henry ford understood that he had to pay his workers enough money to to be able to afford the car that they were producing to be able to afford the home and he had i got to put their children in a good school system because they won't come after me and my mansion with a pitchfork and a tiki too yeah right i mean it's sort of the schindler thing that you're industrialists have interests and and it dry it can end up affecting their politics. It is super important so what i would say very simply to you and your listeners. We're in a crisis now. We may not. I have the same political views. We may be different on things. You'd be surprised at how close i am to you on social issues. I am four gay marriage or women's rights all of those things okay but we may be different but we have a national and international crisis on our hands right now and it's to me. It's almost like a pearl harbor. Okay we have to come together okay and if there's a group of republicans that want to hold onto power hour and they want to equivocate and gaslight and move the goalposts along with president trump. I understand why they're doing it. I'm trying to open up and create an offramp for those people and i'm praying that they're gonna come off that ramp the way i did with you talking about capital labor. It sounds like you're offramp might lead you into the arms of bernie sanders at least elizabeth warren no because if you can't do a top down we've proven through one hundred and fifty years of failed socialist experimentation that you can't do it top down what you can do. Is you go back to roosevelt the second roosevelt franklin and you go to eisenhower and you and you look look at what they were trying to do. You can do it through the tax policy and social policy incentivizing the free market to get there so who's your candidate candidate. Well we have to see. I think we're still very early. I know that sounds crazy but i believe that donald trump will not be the republican nominee. I'm not saying that the current announced candidates against them will be but i think he's in severe mental decline and i think he is in he's severely impaired at this point and i think that they're going to say hey you pitched five or six good innings. The ball's going over the backstop. Now you gotta take take a powder because you can't put sentences together anymore and the and and and you're you've created a fever now in the american system and we have have to be good statesman and be the immune logical part of the system to remove. You and let's get you out of here on a high road you don't. I don't have to have mike pence become president but let's just tell people. You're not running for reelection. It's joe walsh and jets. Where are you well. If you remember i i did one press conference. I'm still one up on stephanie okay but let me just say this. I didn't answer hypothetical and and i reminded people that the first thing they teach you in law schools don't answer the hypothetical because you don't know and it's too far away but what i hope is you'll invite me on your podcast and if that is to come to pass and all those travails over the next fourteen month happened or six or eight months then you have an honest analytical conversation conversation as to where i am i'm all about at we will definitely do that. What i'm not trump virginia because trump is a systemic danger. He's a clear and present in danger to the american system. He's disrupting the global trading system. He's disrupting the grand alliance that has kept the peace and led to this tremendous global prosperity and he needs to be removed. This is not a personal thing. This is not oh he fired me. I tried to stay loyal to him for two years virginia. It's not any of that. This is we're now past the point where he can be saved and you can stay as the american president for four or five years. Here's if that happens if that happens. You're running too high a risk for the country and so i'll be out there raising money in my packed. I'll be out there. You're in the swing states campaigning and explaining the message that i'm sharing with you and your listeners today land grateful to you for that when i underwent you know when i got sober uber i had a lot of immense to make i i had heard a lot of people and you know it's part of the program of getting sober you know from your brother that you you know take responsibility for that and you know going through. I think we saw michael cohen in his extraordinary test second testimony before the house judiciary committee really almost seek absolution from cummings you know for what he had done and for aligning himself with as he described trump a racist a conman and a cheat <hes> and <hes> you know it's the kind of get down on your knees and pray and he was sobbing he he he got tears in his eyes thinking about how he'd betrayed holocaust surviving and family tobacco racist so now i wanna talk to you about what your amends to your family might look like i mean you were you know deirdre. Your your wife filed for divorce on the grounds that your ambition had gotten the most of you that you've chosen trump over her and cast it was a little more complicated than that but that that was a big board of it you're right and most importantly i assist painful topic but you know gear says you're both helicopter. Parents now went to a whole day of kindergarten with your son but you weren't a helicopter parent two years ago when you missed your baby's birth and stayed with trump and not your wife during the delivery and rotor occur taxed. That's the kind of thing a drunk would do. I don't mean that you're doing drugs but that's the kind of thing when you're just selfishly gunning it through your life trying to get ahead and losing sight of the big picture what is commenced to deirdre. Gonna look like okay so let's go back because a lot of that stuff is a lot of misinformation unfortunately and again. I'm not equivocating. I just just want to lay out the facts as an example two weeks ago. Republican operatives dropped a story on me that i was at a joe biden fundraiser. I was not at joe biden fundraiser. I was at a charity fundraiser for the greek orthodox church. There were thousand people there joe biden came for three minutes to an except after an award for his deceased son he spoke from the podium for three minutes he was at a fundraiser came to our charity event to speak for three minutes and left left and the republican operatives put me at a joe biden fundraiser to try to make me look like a traitor or benedict arnold to the republican party. Okay okay in the situation that you're referring to two years ago. When president trump told me okay we thought previous was going to resign. He's not i'm going to fire him on friday day and i said well i know rights probe is they're going to drop an oppo story on me. That's going to obliterate me and you know washington. He he was fired at five zero seven on the bloomberg terminal at five eighteen. The new york post opposition research story was dropped on me in its full glory. When did deirdre's water break. Let's talk about that. I was in my my baby. Baby was born on july twenty fourth two thousand seventeen. We were fighting. She had filed for divorce. There was an agreement that i was going to be at the baby's delivery. The baby was due on august eighth when i got to the boy scout jamboree or whatever it was called on air force one we then took a fifty fifty minute trip in a caravan so you know that's with no traffic so that was probably ninety minutes out with traffic to the boy scout jamboree. I then got notification from deirdre that her water was breaking and that she was going into delivery. I try to get back to new york. That was completely left out of the story. I called netjets. I called charter flights. You may know this but there's a sixty mile ground. Stop around air force first one. I did not know that but i learned it on the day that my son was born. Okay i couldn't get to an f. b. o. or get back to new york in time time for the delivery of the baby that was never reported in the new york post what was reported was my blind ambition my drunken status whatever you you want to call it and all of that sort of definition but there's a lot more texture to the story than the way it happened. Okay let me let me just finish two more centers because you brought it up gate. I love deirdre digital owes me you can listen to the pockets took great balls for her to fire the voice cannonball over the transom. Some of me took great balls. I admire her for it. Okay <hes> when when i was in the white house i was trying to figure out a way to reconcile with her. I was blown from the white house and we began the process of reconciliation shortly thereafter and end. We've been working on it for the last two years. I think it's going well. You'd have to ask her. Invite her on your podcast. Believe me she's a very blunt lady and she's very very honest honest but here's the point of the story. It wasn't just trump. We had other personal things that we were dealing with between our parents and other things that were going on and we were making a lot of mistakes and so what i would also say to people listening to your podcasts. If you're in relationship with somebody and you i think that relationship is perfect. Please call me because you'll be the first person that i've met that has a perfect relationship with somebody else and i would like to meet you to learn learned from you but my relationship with is far from perfect but we love each other very much and we reconciled. We have two beautiful children together and i have three adult children and and i think i've spent a good thirty minutes explained yet. I'm a very flawed guy but i'm very passionate guy and i'm a guy that really he believes in trying my best to do the right thing and it doesn't mean i've done the right thing at every turn in my life but i own those mistakes in my marriage i own those was mistakes working for trump and when you asked me about what am i going to do to clean it up. The only thing i can do virginia is work on making sure that he's not reelected and i'm gonna do that with my personal money raising money articulating why he can nappy happy the president for the next four to five years yeah i'm going to do that and that must be a great great constellation to hairdryer who doesn't share your politics and objects to trump if that's not enough for people that i'm sorry judge me the way you wanna judge me but just recognize that if you have this improbable life where you've grown up in a blue collar neighborhood or blue collar parents and you somehow managed to be in the white house for eleven seconds or eleven days and you bill two successful businesses and and you know you gotta set nuts on you what you know i do because i have no problem going toe to toe with this guy now commenting on you're not spent yes okay but you know i do okay and so it probably that's probably too self serving but if you're listening to my park yes we had a sociologist on. I told my nuts where the size grapefruits he said well. That's a sign of promiscuity. I said no no no. I meant greenpeace in the jolly green giant frozen food section put my point being is i've got no fear and i've got no problem going toe to toe with this guy and i've i've got no problem explaining to people what the dangerous and i also have no problem explaining to people how i got in the soup with him and why it's so important if they're in the soup with him that it's okay to get out of the soup and to declare yourself on behalf of your family and on behalf of your country country all right before i let you go as the life coaches say what is personal success fulfilment look like for you right now like let's say two years from for now. After the election what would make it seem like the scary. Mucci life was really back on track. I think it already is when i got blown from the white house which which was full blown fifteen stage humiliation globally a lot of people called me to offer me help and it was a very <unk> gratifying george bailey sort of a thing for me and i said to somebody in one of these interviews and it was like george bailey. I hit my head on on the bridge. I was in an alternative universe for eleven days. I was like man. I gotta get back to my life. God help me figure out a way to get back to my life. Did you actually ask god for. I hope i ask god for help every single day. I'm very faithful person. I was raised roman catholic. I am not in love with the priests. We don't have to go into to that in this podcast but and no one ever molested me thank god i am a very faithful very religious person. I ask god for help every we single day okay and so so i am very blessed guy because you have to think about where i was on july thirty first two thousand seventeen gene think about where i am today in two thousand nine hundred if so pleased to hear you sounding good and committed to your new path and i hope you will come come back till continue to document these changes in your life. I'll come back anytime okay but i i do. I know i'm being self-congratulatory your i do think i'm an ape plus a stroller by the way i think i'm like i got a i got to be in the major leagues at trolling at this point all right. Well have a red at me. 'cause i'm a plus in not feeding trolls. My guest has has been anthony scaramucci the director of communications for the white house in july of twenty seven he has since had a change of heart and has devoted himself into fighting trump and trumpism. That's it for today's show. What did you think you know how to reach me. Come to twitter. I'm at page eight. 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Positively 4th Street

Fame is a Bitch

38:42 min | 1 year ago

Positively 4th Street

"From workhouse connect in a j Benza. Vein. He liked to be walked on a leash and play really dirty kinky sex camps is the guy put the cop and the peacock network. Okay bitch. Hey, everybody AJ Benza here famous bitch. I guess I got through it baby dolls. I guess I got through the month pretty much unscathed. Although driving home today where I'm staying and a cousin Phil because in Philly, filling the terror big tough guy. You just they just this guy's got fingers the size of pickles that come out of the barrel. He. He was a state champion wrestler national rest. I mean, just a fucking animal guy, and we love Phil and his family and as big and tough as he is he's one of the softest hearts ever. You know? And of course, the way God works he gave them three daughters. And now, he's grandpa was another another female, and it's wonderful. But we go back since we're five is all his brother, married. My sister. So Philly rights be an Email and his phone numbers. Not in my new phone at didn't catch. So I get this message from somebody going. I can't even tell you. I listen to your podcast all the time. I'm trying to catch up. But I happen to listen to the one on your mom, and I had to pull over I can drive. I got compose myself. I'm going who is this person who is this. And then it says. Phil. I so my God if you knew would have looked like to see big Phil cry at the side of the road because of something heard about my mother that got me crying. So I'm reading this tax the red light. What do you think? I do. I gotta go right back to listen to the podcast about my mom, and I go two miles down the highway not gonna pull over and I'm a mess complete mess. I got my black Ray bans on. But doesn't matter. You know, you know, you get out we tried on and everything on your body's wrong. And I'm supposed to go out late tonight. I dunno. My is the plant. I I got beat up by Cup of Nigeria guys the street in Chicago terrible. I don't know. But I love getting that message from fill in meant a lot to me in. He talked about I've told you guys about people in my front row. Who mean the most to me in this world, Philip is one of those people. We don't talk every week every month. But. When bad shit really goes down not lives. We I normally the first people we contact and thank God. Not too much bad should has gone down Malaya's, but we've been there for each other. When when the shit hit the fan and the fan ain't working put it that way. So I'm really happy about that. But let's it does so much stuff going on guys that I wake up in the morning. I just wish I can keep the microphone on and do a live stream from this room. I wake up in because all the walls are white. I got the white desk where I write a wiped reser. My Jerry's bland, I'm not making fun of it. And I'm very great before. But it's like you. It'd be like, you know, AJ's. From the crazy house, although this is far from craziest. But I'm saying I wish I could broadcast everything I do the minimum make up 'cause as soon as I put on FOX is thought hearings shit, and because Hollywood and politics criss cross a lot. This is what we're hearing all day. Like, I could not get enough of Michael avenue today. The guy is in all sorts of trouble. And despite that I see him on TMZ and his doubling and tripling down on camera. Walking down the street. He thinks she's got amunition. He's saying Nike executives are going to be led away in handcuffs. The Nikes been thirty for years the stunt. They pulled was outrageous bay lied to the government. They're gonna play the prosecute. It's an atrocity, and I look forward to that perp walk, and, you know, okay. Michael doesn't some big words, man. Most attorneys would just say Michael stop stop stop talking. You know, what he eat in Los Angeles where we're TMZ people are not gonna find you you. Got a fucking olive garden DMZ's nine outside olive garden. Go to sizzler, go to outback steakhouse have a blooming onion, you blooming idiot. But when you show up at Mr. Jalle Craig's or one of the. That's what they live there. So he wants to be seen. He wanted to be on record saying what he said. But look, here's what I can tell you. And I told you out wouldn't say too much about this stop until I had a handle on because I did not want to join all the neophytes and the jerk off I see who pop up on these channels who don't know one. Twentieth of what I know. And by the way, let me just say this when all the stuff going on with these people I talk about so regularly. You would think that I'd get a call to pop on a show and give my advice. You would think not known Kwami, I'm fine with it. I'm just letting you guys now it because of my mouth because of what I say because I hold nothing back. It means that the people who put people on TV or petrified me, then not gonna pay me to not gonna call me anymore. Those days are over because they've heard this show. I know her shell because I've seen their shows saying exactly the same things that this show has said, and that's a great feeling. It's weird. But it's a great feeling. So. I been supporting myself to degree with this show because then gonna call me, no more. That's just the way the world works this world this pussy Hollywood world. Because if people really wanted the truth, they call me, but they don't they just wanna keep the wheels turning not how much dog shit is all caught up in the spokes. They don't care. But now that I have a little more of a handle on things. Explain some to you look Michael ebony is a guy that got really famous really quickly. Right. And he felt very impaired. You could read it in his walk his talk his demeanor. His everything I know a lot of attorneys who on TV and do this thing whether it's Gloria Allred. Mark Garrett goes Dershowitz, Jose bias. I know. But this is this is important when you start a discussion with somebody, and you feel you've been wrong like Michael Nadi dead with Nike. There's something called a demand letter. Right. A demand letter is something that you sit down with. And you write this letter to the said company, or you know, all the individuals attorney. Any who you feel wrong you, and you say, hey, my clients been wronged, we need to discuss a few things we need to discuss a way to make it right? Now, there are very those are very sensitive letters. And that's why law school is important because if you write these letters incorrectly, it's extortion or it's blackmail, and that's no good. If you write them correctly, you can get paid a lot of money and make it go away. And there are things like that that happened in this town that you and I well I hear about it. But you never hear about and it's all because somebody sat down and had the unequivocal talent to write the demand letter at a very crucial moment to walk away with millions and millions of dollars. I mean, just so, you know. In a guys like Garrigo city. I'll I'll say him because so far he's not died in these bit. Very successful attorney. He will look at things that occur on the news. He will look at these these particular crises that occur, and he'll he'll label it like he'll just look and say, well, that's that's two hundred million dollars settlement. Yeah. It's fifteen million. That's fifty mil they know instantly as soon as they start to see things laid out. Shall what avenue did was very foolish? He really did incorrectly. And that's the prising to me because there's a way to do it and away not to do it. Now, you've got understand as soon as Michael haven't even taste of fame. And this was right around the time. He got a taste of stormy and my say, he got a taste of her trust me. He did can all. Yeah. He was getting all sorts of offers for TV shows. He took a lot of meetings nightly show weekly show daily show, a lot of meetings might lab, and I have major major people in this town, and that pumped up to taking those meetings empowers person, and it certainly empowered Michael avenue this shell that got closest to actually becoming shop was. A show that would pair him with Anthony Scaramucci, the White House, and I gotta tell you. I'd watch that show. But I also know what it set back talion couple of decades because both of those guys can go a little bit off kilter and make my people look bad. But I would've watched it would have been exciting as much as ever not as a law breaker in the douchebag. There is a dying. There is something dynamic about him in the way, he speaks. He demands attention. He demands attention in the way assert another person does. A man named Donald Trump this something there that if they're at your table or in the same room as you you will turn your chair to hear what they have to say. Now, you may turn it back after twenty minutes half this guy, but initially avenue, adding, and and Scaramucci, even did the coal bear show together, which seemed innocuous if you will watching the show everybody at home had no idea, but that was really a setup to see if studio executives felt that there was this is their expression, not mine to see if there was any sex between them and other words, do we have a show here or not? And if they did it would have said that sex between scare Mucci and Johnny. And you would TV show. I in some who knows what time with China wear, but would have gone down and gone forward and been green lit by someone and while Anthony Scaramucci loves the red light on the camera when he sees that red light he'd go, Mike. Love ninety also obsessed with the red line. You've seen them on the Bill Maher show real time. You seem them I'll give they love on the when the animal shut up, but the general consensus was an is about having auntie. Agai flew too, close to the sun. You know, he was fairly new in the public arena. He was going to run for president for God's sake. And then he gets accused of spousal abuse. Which really hurt him? Bottom line is when you put yourself up there that high you gotta make sure your reputation as clean as could be. And I'm speaking in any in the way that any publicist would speak in you wanna go hide you want fun. But your rep better be clean boy 'cause people are gonna start checking now clearly avenue has enemies at the highest levels, and because of his bad reputation. It's come back to haunt him and harmed embed -ly, even if he gets added this. It's clearly a embarrassment for him. But on a different level. It's a career not a career ender? But it's gonna hurt his career for longtime. Plus, he's dealing with a lot of money. A lot of time. A lot of frustration. His life is going to be ripped apart for a long time. He's not going to get clients for awhile. He's not gonna get TV appearances anymore. Any lives off that shit. That's been his high as for Mark gara- goes a guy. I've known since I came out here. I felt I was a little bit protected. If I knew Marcus my first manager Howard lupita 's represented, Mark and certain capacities. And I always felt you know, if anything happens, I call Howard, he calls, Mark. And I was told just that Garrett goes was at the hospital. My first my first when my daughter was born he came with my manager to see my daughter, and one of the Terni does down you pretty much figured. Hey, it's nice to have an attorney like that. If I didn't trouble on call Gary Gus so what's happening to hidden. Now, I'll tell you. I think market goes is way too wise of a ban to get into kind of junk that have an Ottis in. I see Garrett goes coming out of this and doing fine. And don't forget, there's a reason why he wasn't indicted. Okay. 'cause if he did anything on the level that have an ATI. He in the same shit. But he's not. So I have a feeling he'll be fine. And look this story is just it. I mean, it there is so many stories flying off the wall. Now, you know on the calendar shows up in these these old movies, they try to show you the passage of time and the and the the days of the count of fly off the screen. That's what this feels like. Because now the department of Justice and President Trump wants in what I heard Trump is warning say he wants to get involved in what he's calling a tunnel. Miscarriage of Justice. Okay. You know, get the popcorn because Trump has been through the mill. And if he has any just imagine your Trump you've been on the roads Jedi pommel up cut roundhouse crosses rights. Unum. Jab jab jab and suddenly your opponent is weak. You think Trump's not gonna come out and start throwing what does he always said to people on account of puncher will get ready because he had come the fuck in blows. So he gets involved with this jussie smollet nonsense. And I think he will things don't look good for Jesse smo-. At now when it comes to the Nigerian brothers and look guys trust be trustee. When I tell you, there are reasons why this is where it's at the brothers spoke the cops they said to the cops we've stage this with Jesse. He asked us to do it. We scope out an area and acted out rehearsed it. But then along rep by lords after they said, we staged this all of a sudden wearing Kim FOX say some bullshit about them having a picture. There's a picture of found of one of the Nigerian brothers imitating dark Knight and Whiteface, really. So what does that mean? Jussie smollet to that mean they put on white face. And then put the mass onto to be this is so stupid. It's so dumb. How many how many black very pointy how many black dudes out there would pretend to be heath ledger in dark Knight? And actually put the fuck in makeup on give me a rate where the eight years old. Was here's what happened guys? I didn't wanna talk about it. But now, I've got it. So here's what happened a few days ago. Somebody made a massive of peel to the Nigerian brothers in the form of luck. You guys are good guys. Can you didn't do any wrong? We see what you're doing you know, and respect which trying to lives. Okay. It trying to get a goddamn business off the ground. That's never easy with all the goddamn red tape my ride and my ride. Yeah. Yeah. Now, the last thing you want this jussie smollet cases gonna follow you around wherever you go. You'll going to be those two guys you're not gonna be individuals. You're going to be the Nigerian brothers Jinnah. Stan. Have you thought about that? Well, yeah, man, we have athletes, but listen, let me tell you something. You guys are alone and miss because jussie split has a lot of friends and big government. I'm sure, you know. Yeah. Yeah. We know. I mean, these friends are not gonna dry up an east friends have tentacles in. They've got power for days and days, they could make things hard. On a couple of black guys who on opened up a business here. And there gives them what I'm saying fellas. I'm not saying, it's right. Understanding you on the stamina I'm saying now, man, we hear Yuli, you know, eight. Okay. So look. If I were to tell you, you know, maybe to make things less difficult for you in your lives 'cause you don't need disaggregation. Maybe if someone's going to give you two hundred thousand dollars, maybe two hundred fifty thousand dollars he walked away from this thing, and you tell the officials you don't want to testify. Can we do that? Sure. You can absolutely. You don't wanna testify, and guess, what is no more case any more. And then you guys go le-. I don't even know your I I apologize. Okay. I can't pronounce them. The point is guys. You guys go lead a drama free life. Maybe it's two fifty. Maybe it's three hundred on the I'm not coming here with the money. I'm saying if that were to present itself, the that something you might be interested because. I'm gonna speak for him. And I'm an American white guy. If I was looking at started business in this country with any kind of past behind me that anybody new on any level. I take the money is. Yeah. Man. You right. You right. That's the first thing that happened. But let me say something about him FOX who I wish there was a word stronger than atrocious. She is awful at what she does. And she is a perfect example of a black person who was able to take advantage of getting the job over a white person. Don't get upset by me saying this because I understand things have to be equalled out. And I left many jobs at least three to black people or women who came to different newspapers that worked out present. The even the score make the paper. Look a certain way Kim FOX is one of those people. I hate the term. And that's why can't remember? I know it's today. I hate the term. I hate the term because it's bullshit, and it should be fucking over now. But this is why she is in this position. She's awful out it, but let me give you the good news can FOX got a letter from the national association of district attorneys, so long as Asian that represents twenty seven hundred DA's, and they basically said I quote when a chief prosecutor recused his his or herself. The refusal must apply to the whole office. Not just the elected or appointed. Prosecutor it also says prosecution prosecutors should not take advice from politically connected friends, like Michelle Obama, politically connected friends of the accused and expunging splits record at this immediate stage is counter to transparency as what they wrote. So Jesse let's record was expunged. And his case was sealed. And now Kim Faulk says it might have been accidentally sealed and she thinks it's in the process of being unsealed. But I specifically heard lawyers on different cable channels. I watched them. I've watched small ex lawyer say that ceiling was not an. Accident. It was negotiated and it's on the record. So Kim FOX is fucked and you're gonna hear about that reacquaint. So here's the short of it. Here's the breaking story that you haven't heard from anybody. But mate. This is what's gonna happen? Again, a can't my mouth shot in till I told you I can hear the real deal. So here it is came FOX is scared shit. She is nervous hell because she's been told she's about to get in tons of trouble and probably lose her job. And there will be here's the big one. There will be a gigantic civil suit brought against jussie smollet. And they're not they the department of Justice and the cops and the Chicago, they're not taking this lightly. Donald Trump you name it all these big money. Flood is not taking this lightly. This asshole splat. Saudi had Michelle Obama behind him. Not any still acts bit cocky acting like he's gonna sue them back. And he might sue these shut the fuck up, man. He still talk and shit here. They're bad idea. He's going to be killed off empire. I retold John that's going to happen. I understand he's not married yet. But from my heard, they're supposedly fast-tracking situation where he falls to somebody, and he's on some sort of honeymoon and on that honeymoon. He dies now. Maybe in what's happened in the last seventy two hours that it's going to become a different idea. But that's what I heard he will be killed off. And who gives a Faulk he was the fifth lead on a shit show. The show is good for one season. I wish I wish draws you. Well, I rish which territory. Well, but they did they did what they did a great job and they can move on. But listen Jesse sorry, man shit. You know, the F B I is going to go after him on a national level. And he's not gonna like it because they're gonna come hard for him a lot like he went off for forty five. I hard for forty five. Well, guess what jerk off forty fives coming hard for you on the fucker, and you can't take. And I love it. Fifth lead on a shit show. Talking tough talk in big, let's I'll give vice I'm not in charge. Like, a publicist would just concentrating music career forget Calvin you're not gonna act anymore for a very long time. Forget it you the gate to pop your already told us that so start acting like the the gate to pot with act to start writing some music from your heart. Posting lyrics jetty asked and become the gay to botmc. I'll see a life treat you. Okay. That that's all you gotta do. Because you know, Michelle Obama, God Glasser is the type of woman who will stick up for friends like that. And because she was first lady for eight years and graceful first lady, I'm not gonna make fun of the way she dressed, which I thought was awful, but she was grateful. Was never an embarrassment. Lot of great qualities about her. But what she did with Jesse is stupid. This is what you say to that friend. I wanna help you. I want to help you. But. You're in a spot that makes it really hard for us to help. And then that person walks away because the person knows it the person knows he's asking the impossible. You can't feel too bad. In there. It's just I don't know. I I'm not even that smart. And I get this stuff. But now another thing that's happening that I wanna scream over is fucking shit. Had Anthony Anderson the guy dropped thirty five pounds. Thanks to set. Some now he's hosting. I think the six straight year of the n AA CPA awards at he had the gumption and the stupidity to actually say the Justice Milan up for an award. And he hopes he wins guys. I don't even know what this award is. I could easily go it. I know he's not gonna win it. But I cannot believe at any point in his career. He did something whereby he would be up for any fucking award one 'cause he juggled being black and gay. Had you do. It's fuck yourself people. These these these big giant Pat me on the back parties, aren't they getting you sick? Anthony innocence that I hope to see here. Yeah. He'll be there. I hope to see him here. I'm happy for him that the system worked for him. Really it work it his favourite because the system isn't always fair, especially for people of color. He I know the people of color also kill a lot of people of color. So at the Faulk talked about that say something important. Why don't you make a speech about Chicago general you should head? Make people prouder. Now, you wanna make gesture you wanna make him feel like he's fantastic. No. If you've got the podium jerk off, you say something about the city that means a lot Chicago. And you talk about how how the brothers. They gotta making that listen, listen, why am I tell him? I'm not the black that I get it. So I'm glad it worked out for Justice. That's Anthony Anderson said it's not my place or anybody else's place to judge him or what not bullshit. Yes. It is. Everybody said he's guilty cops. Prosecutors fucking everybody said it. But I'm glad that he's nominated. I hope he wins. Because I'd be interested to hear his speech. He here his speech. He was again to become up to the stage for the fucking subway sandwich in his hand and Nusrat is neck. Out the what is up for the lying as all of the year? Kimmy relegating your son about Anthony. And it's real quick. Okay. This guy wants that. Like, he's so perfect and wonderful. Put them up there to host the the end of Lacey pe- awards. Anthony Anderson wasn't an airport not too long ago. And he came across the girl, I date, I'm still very close to wonderful beautiful girl that if any man solver black white red arm doesn't matter you'd want to know heard sit down that she's very chatted. She's adorable. She's sexy, and she likes to go out and have fun while Anthony is in recognize this about that girl. And he said where are you flying to while? I'm on here. I going go to Miami. Anthony said all shit. I'm gonna be Miami for Bob laws party, and this extra for mindset all God. That'd be such amazing party. And he was like you wanna go just let me know. She's of course, left ago, he says well. We're both be Miami. Give me a phone number on call you when everything said get an invite to you, and you go you don't have to go with me, take your girlfriend. She goes. That's so sweet of you here. Yeah. She gave him her number. They announced boarding to get on their respective place. At the ends that this one is sitting there, but his ipod omelette, I sold you sit down with his iphone. He's the her plane is announced his leaving. They say goodbye she gets on the plane before they even started taxing her phone rings. And it's a picture of Anthony Anderson's ditch. He knew her about twenty two minutes. So whatever he asked to say about how Jesse smell atlas traded and about the SIS the missing motherfucker, you're sending black dick pics to a white girl in an airport. So go fuck yourself, and nothing you say means anything to me. Let me thank my cream of the crop tippy top. But I'm sorry. You wonderful people come into such a horrible image. Because I do know certain details about the Anthony Anderson, and I'm not going to bore you with it. But any love let me thank alley chichi trion. She'd hate to see that picture. So at a net mounted pros angelie Cala wants nothing to do with that picture author fortune. If you want me to tell you something about I will let me know. I don't think you do crystalise. You don't wanna know about that? I Louis press star. They couldn't care less, Debbie. Anderson. George Kanasas, no way the to Catherine's, I know for certain one nothing to do with that picture. In fact, can still probably shoot it with a fucking done. She's packing Kellyanne ac- poor not a fan of the IX. I'm sure Melanie, Hal, Melissa spiritual. Nicole fat is Patty Markle Ryan will Sarah Sisley ally, Wendy Mazzi, Krista Johns that have brindell Andy Welsh, Eric Faulk wa Joan can interest you in a picture of Andy Anthony Anderson's dick pic. I don't think so you don't have to answer. Don't worry about us. Let me say this before leave. There was a store. I watched the prize fight the other night that I found fascinating coupla guys Russian guy named coup brought Pula man, he got his left temple sliced open in. Maybe the third or fourth round by a punch. You don't want a guy throws a right hand the way. Bob ses punch, if you turn your hand over at that exact precise second, you can really rip someone skin'll. And and it makes a final bleed especially above his eye. If you can do that right to very it's very crucial the blood flows, like a red curtain of your you can't see they call the fight the fights all will this particular night. A watching this fight, and it is a role this guy who's bleeding is gonna lose. And he was the favourite. What does he do wife and his I with the glove? The other guys got blood all over him. It was amazing and such a mazing fashion. Eventually every round they tended to that. I and this big bulb Garin, not a Russian of Bulgarian his crowd favourite to he starts pounding the other guy a couple of times hip Ponant in the back of the head the guy stayed down. Either wanna get up and fight people thought the Bulgarian might be dispelled FAI. But eventually they fight again fans square. And he knocked the fucking guy down three times this guided wanna fight any more even though the other guy had a bloody face the guy. He beat did not wanna five more. So the fights over now, and it is emotional so some female ringside reporter named Jenny. Sushi pretty girl, obviously, they don't hire ugly wants to go work in the sports field. She suddenly net this guy, and she's trying to talk to him about the final seconds and minutes will feel like there is a huge language barrier. He can't say things correctly and speak quickly. She's speaking like a valley girl in LA. I'm like that happened on the Ghanem God. And he's trying to just say anything the punch. I hit the punch. I think I Wayne I work hard at bunch. He's one of those. But apparently, they know each other. So this Garin brute who actually was actually looking do. But he's a big brute thirty seven year old guy. You know, not a big ugly. And after the interview ended, I don't know if you saw this. He just grabbed her by the cheeks he kissed her in victory moment. I understand in today's day. It was not consensual. She did not ask for that kiss. But when he first did it, it wasn't open mouth was just a kiss. She laughed and smiled, and you could hear the crew she work with laugh, and he was like, okay. Well that happened, and you know. I thought that was the end of it. Because apparently, those two are friendly they know each so they him to Poland was no big deal. And they'd laugh to be. Thank you, MS added ended, but they should be nothing. More to a big, you know when she did. Jedi sushi, wet and hard Gloria Allred. And they're planning to take legal action against the boxer. Okay. In fact, in classic Gloria Allred form, she held a press conference the other day to announce the plan of attack. Gloria Allred has not seen the inside of a cloakroom in over ten years. She's a hill. She's an ambulance chasing moron. And frankly, any woman who hires her what's the matter with you. How dummy you do you not care about yourself? If you really were that hurt and offended in put off hire a real attorney and do things the right way, you'll need to go on TV with the box of Kleenex and put on the big show because that's all Gloria allred's been doing just go. But every big attorney, I talk to they laugh. She doesn't go inside classrooms in battle. So let me know much fun. Anyone had at the last Gloria Allred victory party because you know, what there hasn't been one. So I'm sorry that the big Bulgarian boxer kissed you. It is moment of pure joy, Jenny Sutji. But. The got yourself in the ring and some Parnes when you're in the ring punches land sometimes kisses given a live you'll be fine be thankful. You have the job. AJ Benza in. That is Fain is a bitch.

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Feds charge friend of Dayton mass shooter, say he bought 100-round magazine, body armor used in attack, Trump escalates feud with ex-loyalist Scaramucci, who accuses president of giving people a "license to hate", New York Times: El Paso shooter parroted

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Feds charge friend of Dayton mass shooter, say he bought 100-round magazine, body armor used in attack, Trump escalates feud with ex-loyalist Scaramucci, who accuses president of giving people a "license to hate", New York Times: El Paso shooter parroted

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The white house says it's planning more raids on businesses that use news immigrants <hes> is the president trying to slam the door on people whose only crime is being for also braking losing the mooch president trump escalating feud with his one time communications director anthony scaramucci. The mood says he's known says he's now against the president's reelection bid because of mr through trump's behavior after last week's mass shootings scaramucci says the president is acting nonsensical house the white house responding and russian shouldn't do clear mystery alarming new questions about what caused a deadly explosion and possibly russia's worst nuclear disaster since chernobyl his vladimir putin trying to cover up a meltdown in his nuclear program wolf blitzer. You're in the situation room. This is c._n._n. Breaking news we're following breaking news in the investigation of mass shootings that left nine people dead in dayton ohio. Police killed the gunman less than a minute after he opened fire but now federal prosecutors have filed charges against one of his friends. He's accused of buying the high capacity magazine. That gunman used during the attack which also wounded dozens of people also tonight right. President trump is escalating feud with the man who used to be one of his most loyal defenders former white house communications director. Anthony scaramucci says he no longer longer supports reelecting the president citing statements and tweets he says gay people are importing now a licensed to eight and the trump administration has announced new new regulations that code limit legal immigration the rules could prevent low income immigrants from getting green cards overcoming permanent citizens if they use lose federal aid programs such as food stamps which is legal. I'll get reaction from democratic congressman denny. He's a member of the intelligence committee and our correspondents finest of analysts will have full coverage of the day's top stories. Let's begin with siennas ryan young <hes> right. Tell us more about the breaking news about the new charges filed in the aftermath of the dayton mass shooting of new information in this case ethan college twenty four has been charged with this in terms of trying to provide some of these materials to the shooter. What we know is that hundred drum the initial run that we've seen with even call it up was out there before has now been connected to this man in according to investigators he wanted to hide it from his parents and that's why connor betson ordered himself investigators talked about how it was ordered a civil department and during that time they also also did drugs in fact listen to federal prosecutors talking today colleen indicated that he purchased these items for bats and stored them at collies residents in order to assist bats in hiding the items from his parents. This is important. If you think about that shooting there were nine people were killed that high capacity weapon was used as he walked down the street methodically trying to get inside the club federal investigators and local police who've showed us that video. Oh as police were able to surround him. Shoot him before getting in that club tells connor beds was able to get inside hundreds of people could have been injured but now we know these two men were talking about parts of this in terms of those weapons and assembling it at the apartment what we do know from federal investigators is they do not believe this man had any idea about the shooting or what was going to take place they also did tell us they've been able to get into shooters phone and they're starting to go through that evidence because of course people in that community of wondering about what the motive could have been in the shooting that so far hasn't been determined yet wolf prosecutors are also suggesting he actually helped the shooter hide the gun the ammunition the the clips and all of that right right exactly at his apartment wolf they believe he got that drum that hundred drums a parley a._r. fifteen and end that body armor which was obviously supposed to be so important as he moved his way down of course those cops were able to surround him and take down luckily before he got inside that apartment but this is all part of the prosecution you see the a._t._f. And federal investigators were at this man apartment the day after the shooting they really did a lot of quirk in this case to sort of figure this all out they certainly did all right ryan young <hes> thanks so much for that report of the president's response of the mass shootings has cost him the support of a one time a let's go to our chief white house. Correspondent wanted jim acosta. He's outside the president's golf resort in new jersey for us <hes> jim the president's feud with anthony. Scaramucci seems to be escalated. It certainly is wolf justice. After president trump and anthony scaramucci exchanged attacks on twitter. The president says scare mucci just wants to be on t._v. And scare mucci says the president has lost justice fastball. The white house is also firing back press secretary. Stephanie grisham is accusing scaramucci of acting in a self serving way but now that the mooch is loose. The question is is whether other republicans will follow. It's a mooch mutiny as former white house communications director. Anthony scaramucci is bolting from trump world roll announcing. He will not back the president in next year's election. I think you have to go consider a change at the top of the ticket. When someone is acting like this the reasons scare mucci points to the president's handling of the mass shootings and el paso dayton and mr trump's divisive rhetoric he is giving people a licensed to hate <hes> to provide a source of anger to go after each other and he does it on his twitter account so let's just stop for a second and think about this that rare scathing criticism criticism from a trump loyalist turned defector comes after the president's slam scare bucci over the weekend tweeting anthony who would do anything to come back and should remember the only reason he is on on t._v. and it's not for being the mooch white house press secretary stephanie grisham says scaramucci is just out for attention saying in a statement. He worked at the white house for less less than two weeks in a certainly no expert on this president. This is all self serving on his part and the media plays right into it. It's embarrassing to watch but the president's critics. Let's say mr trump has learned little from the pass. Oh shooting and is still targeting latinos noting a new administration policy aimed at making it tougher for illegal immigrants to receive government assistance like food stamps. We're simply making effective. What congress had already put on the books so there's no reason for any particular group to feel like this is targeting targeting them. This whole pie crust will announcing the change top immigration official cancun only predicted there would be more ice workplace rates like the operation last week in mississippi the sippy which left migrant children in tears. I think you can expect to see more of that as part of the message this administration. We're going to enforce the law on vacation vacation in new jersey. The president isn't taking a break from twitter retweeting a wild unproven conspiracy theory over the weekend that the clintons were somehow behind the apparent suicide of sex offender jeffrey epstein. The tweet is part of his long pattern of spreading false conspiracy. Theories present just wants everything to be investigated. Perhaps there's a public interested in knowing more about that but again. This is all speculative and is not for me to go further than where the d._o._j. And f._b._i. Are right now it one actual occurrence that isn't getting much attention from the president the fact that it's been two years since the white supremacist violence that erupted in charlottesville one of the low points of the trump presidency started this thing. They should have been startled me to protest in some very big. Thanks for that group but you also had people that were very fine. People on both sides it. It is not clear whether scaramucci defection from trump world. We'll have much of an effect on the rest of the republican party. The president has spent much of his vacation already fundraising. It will hold a rally in new hampshire later on in the week. Scare mucci of course will says that he's only saying out loud. What many republicans say privately jim thank you jim acosta reporting for us joining us now washington state democratic representative denny heck who serves on the house intelligence committee congressman. Thanks so much for joining us several issues. I want to go through with you but let's start with the news news that a friend of the dayton shooter bought the high capacity magazine used in that attack first of all do support a ban on these high capacity magazines this chart. I see no reason whatsoever that weapons that are equipped such as that whose only purpose to kill as many people as possible should be allowed out on the streets. I hope that this individual is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law according to the charging authorities but the fact of the matter is we're not going to even begin to mitigate all of this. This is important as prosecutions are until we can adopt common sense gun safety legislation republican congressman mike turner who represents dayton and by the way and now supports limits on magazines. Is this an area. You think you can find common ground democrats and republicans working together well. I hope so often in fact. I see some perceptible shift going on here. You had the marches response to that and by the way in a rare instance. I actually agree with the president the mutual say anything again to get attention. Although i find it incredibly rich that the president would accuse anybody else of this but you also had your own host s._e. Cup announced what's that she has dropped her membership in the there are signs here but we need to. We need to qualify in temporary all of this by remembering dr martin luther king's wisdom when he said change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability because we also know the president is fickle. We know the president can change position. We know the president has said that he hopes was to get something in the way of background checks but the n._r._a. Who's opposed all gun. Safety legislation will have a seat at the table and we know that certain senator john barrosso from wyoming. You said he doesn't see something happening here so this will happen if and only if the american people rise up make their points of view known and says it's time to put a stop to this senseless ah senseless slaughtering of american citizens in our malls in our churches. We've gone through this drill so many times in recent years. How do you make sure this time congressman that this will still be a priority when congress returns and mid-september from its recess so there are lots of members of congress including the majority of the house who you know wolf pass not one but two gun safety legislation bills in february six months ago both relating to background checks the only way in which the senate is going to move is twofold one if the president of the united states finally makes his position clear and sticks to it that it's time to stop the slaughter and i frankly actually don't think that's going to happen unless americans throughout our great land make it clear to him that this is what they expect him to do and what they expect the united states senate to do on immigration immigration <hes> congressman this new rule that the administration is newton now putting out will penalize people who use services like food stamps or medicaid and it will benefit immigrants with better english better education is the administration bypassing congress to enact the president's vision of what the president calls marras based merit based immigration well yes of course he has looked. The president hates all immigrants except his mother and father in law wife. Evidently he hates them whether they're here without documents. They're here with a green card. They're here seeking asylum. He hates the mall and the incredible irony irony of this particular circumstance is a lot of people here who are on green cards are working in very low paying jobs that nobody else wants to do and that's why they qualify for some of these benefits. He's not only going to be hurting these families. He's going to be hurting the local economies which need these people to fill these jobs. If it's harder to immigrate legally we're talking about people who come to the united states legally could this actually incentivize illegal immigration well well as i said to you on this very program well if i believed that the president's behavior over the last two years has in fact incentivize an increase attempt to migrate to the united states because the so called coyotes down in the three triangle countries of central america have been telling people you better get in now because it's only going to get worse so yeah i think his rhetoric has increased efforts to get in here both legally and illegally the trump administration as you know as also directed immigration and customs forcement to get conduct more raids like the ones we saw in mississippi the other day. What's your reaction to that. You know of i i didn't go to sleep after the night of that raid feeling one bit safer because these six hundred people got up very early in the morning to go work in a chicken factory and provide for their free emily. It seems to me that the priority of ice ought to be trying to find those people who have genuinely criminal backgrounds and i'm not talking about speeding tickets. Some of these people actually had ankle bracelets not because they were criminals but because they had sought asylum here and that was the way to continue to track them. I don't feel any safer. That ice undertakes this. I think they ought to have better priorities for what it is that they use their money for you know i was just down at the border <hes> week before last twelve and we have have a situation down there that isn't good and it's going to get worse as the president implements is so called and i say so-called advisedly migrant protection protocol where he's he's basically sending everybody back south of the border. I was in el paso the day before the walmart incident as a matter of fact and the truth of the matter is war as is going to struggle no and i think it's a ticking time bomb to deal with all the people seeking asylum in america that we've sent south. I think that's extra legal and in fact there are two courts that have suggested that that is in legal action but we'll see where that goes representative denny heck. Thanks as usual for joining us. Thank you sir up next. 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Melting down is his device his he's donald trump's divisiveness in his rhetoric is now providing cover for people who hey intolerance well two years ago today was the death of heather higher are in charlottesville a a a death caused by white supremacists riots that donald trump described in their immediate aftermath as both sides being responsible for my my point here is scaramucci muccio every right to say. I no longer support president. The justification that things are somehow different with donald trump today than they were two years ago five years ago ten years ago. It's just not borne out by the back. Let me get the tube into weigh in jeffrey scaramucci points to the president's quote increasingly divisive rhetoric as the reason i you can no longer back the president but as chris cillizza just point out this rhetoric has been going on for quite a while yeah you know i'm not nearly smart enough to know what's going on inside anthony scaramucci brain but what i do know is that he's not an elected official and what's really going to matter is when republican elected officials who are running for re election start criticizing the president because that's going to indicate that they believe the republican party is moving away from him jeff flake <hes> bob corker the senators who criticized <hes> the president republicans they fled they gave up because they knew how much donald trump controlled the republican party. Anthony scaramucci doesn't control any votes as far as i'm aware the interesting thing in the important thing will will be when republican elected officials start standing up to him and as far as i'm aware not a single one has the the ones who have elected officials. They quickly announced. They're not seeking reelection for whatever reason jackie wii scare and mucci abandonment causing the president's such grief if you because he's tweeting about it <hes> sort of nonstop. That's a great question. We feel like you know. It's a broken record at this point <hes> who isn't the president attacking tacking on twitter. I think you know this without really being said but the president just does not like being publicly humiliated fee is obviously an avid c._n._n. Water <hes> and into cable news consumer but i think jeffrey is exactly right at the end of the day. It doesn't matter what anthony scaramucci says <hes> what matters is what all of the people who continue to work for him are saying and what they really refuse to say on the record about the president and what elected officials also refuse to say about this president just one quick thing to jackie's point. I do think it's worth noting donald trump prizes loyalty among all over everything else right i including over sometimes the law when someone who he views as having been loyal oil to him breaks that code for whatever reason i think he reacts more viscerally. He can't keep it to himself. More probably explained to scare me what you think we've seen that with with other people who have publicly broken from trump whether it's omarosa whoever he reacts this way i think because he can't help himself april to weigh in. What do you think you know wolf. I wanna go back to chris earlier. Point <hes> this damascus moment roads damascus moment for anthony scaramucci has been an evolution evolution. I mean i remember when ethnic scaramucci and i first met we were on opposing sides of each other about donald trump and he went in on me and then we talked about it and and then later on he became a white house employees for eleven days and then he was still in support of the president and still on television and he and the president we're talking but after after a while there was an erosion athletes started seeing the light and he would say things that made me say he's really thinking about this and then i a emailed with him <hes> yesterday and today and you know we had been talking and he is very concerned about this all of this racial animus in this racial rhetoric at the president set in this elijah stuff elisa coming stuff on these tweets and comments especially when elijah cummings home was broken into it really bothered anthony and even talked about how he treated me how the president treated me and he's very concerned on this two year anniversary of charlottesville now at the same time anthony's coming out saying hang this but athletes also taking getting death threats because of this and this is what some people are not reporting but anthony told me today he is getting death threats because he has come out against the president he really feels in his heart that this has got to stop and he does not feel that the president should be reelected. You make an important point <hes> jeffrey toobin that despite all of the rhetoric over the past two and half years the president's approval among his base really hasn't changed yeah because you know what we never fail. We we never come to grips with is that you know all this hostility to immigrants all of his racism. Maybe that's what people like about him. Maybe it's not something they just put aside. Maybe the fact that donald trump disparages immigrants the way he always talks about the people of color and disparaging ways the way he gloats when elijah cummings houses broke broken into. Maybe that's what people like about him that it's not aww flaw now. It's not a majority of the population but the idea that his racism and bigotry are going to cost him support. Maybe it will gain in him support. Everybody stick around. There's a lot more we need to discuss them. We will right after quickly. Guys are terrible taking care of their health. 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I've said this before <hes> he may not think he's a racist but the racist believe he's a racist <hes> this president has got to understand words means something and he does know words mean something but his use of words at the wrong time and not only has this president put himself in a situation where history will carry those words from charlottesville but when he talked about the exonerated five both sides you know he says things to evoke feelings from a certain group but those feelings are causing division in this nation that we we feel that we see and people are now getting hurt and this president understands even though he's limited in his governing he understands keenly what he's saying saying and doing and it's very interesting jackie because you saw this new york times and malices of the language used by the confessed killer in el paso doesn't just match in what president trump has been saying but relies on terms that he and others have been saying like invasion replacement commonly used by this right wing media attack aca by white supremacists if you will so what does that tell you yeah i mean we the conservative echo chamber has had a pretty corrosive and damaging effect to democracy but i just want to go back to a point that april made which i think is just so important. It doesn't really matter whether or not the president believes he's racist. He understands that his explicit is it. Racist attacks end his coded attacks on people of color lawmakers of color. He understands the political expediency of these things and that it works his benefit and it works just throwing his base so whether or not a democratic candidate wants to call the president of white supremacists he is aiding and fuelling them and providing them with ammunition initiative to to carry out these pretty atrocious things that are resulting in mass shootings and in-depth and i think we all really need to be watching out for you know his next campaign rally. I think that's going to be the next true test of whether or not he understands the gravity of his words. It's clear from visits last week that he didn't see the need for for unity as really the rest of the country that always has been since he's been a candidate his first speech he announcing always talks. Oh came down the gold elevator escalator. Whatever remember that for speeches when he said mexico sending us rapists pursue criminals. Let's not forget when he talked about gonzalo curiel a indie indiana born judge of mexican asking descent who was overseeing the trump university case that he couldn't be he had conflicts of interest in this because trump says he's going to build the wall. He has throughout his life not just his political career but if we're looking just as blue quitter repeatedly weaponized race in racial animus but it's a fact you can't debate it and i think at some point even north swing at the start he he knows what he's doing. Well it's farther. It's it's the core of his political feel. I mean the reason and he's involved in politics at all is that he told racist lies about where barack obama was born. I mean that's the that's how he became team. A you know went from being a reality television star to being a political figure by telling these racist lies about barack obama it so and it all flows flows from that and the idea that he's going to change in some way is absurd because if you remember the two thousand sixteen election as i think many of you do he john and he thinks he's going to win and the same way you know a lot of people. A lot of democrats are nervous chris because yes his job approval. The number hovers around forty two forty three forty four percent but when folks are asked in these national polls has his approval on the economy. It's in the mid fifties fifties yeah if you had a messenger who focused exclusively on the economic numbers almost exclusively on economic numbers. I think that would be a bigger worry. Donald trump ain't that messenger he steps on good economic news regularly with his tweets with his comments with his attacks and people like elijah cummings so i actually think that disconnection worry republicans more than democrats reason why is typically people approve of the economy presidential approval is high the fact that people approve of his handling of the economy and his presence approval is still in the low forty s that would concern me if i was donald trump because something that is a historical and i don't know how solvable everybody stand by because there's other news we're following new developments in the investigation following sex offender jeffrey epstein jailhouse suicide over the weekend sources. Now tell c. n. And epstein was not checked on for a number of hours before his death national correspondent athena jones joining us from new york right now athena the attorney general general bill bar today said there were serious irregularities at the jail update us hi wolf that's serious irregularities according to a a g bar and this not checking on abc's solas against protocol according to a source briefed on the matter who spoke with my colleague evan perez for a number of hours leading up to epstein's death guards did not check on his cell. It's protocol for guards to check on inmates. Every half hour and justice officials have also uncovered broader problems here at this facility thirty. It's long been considered among the best in the entire bureau prison system but these issues are certainly to be part of the investigation into what happened asked him tonight. Growing questions and investigations announced after accused sex trafficker jeffrey epstein died from an apparent suicide over the weekend and manhattan's metropolitan correctional correctional center called and indeed the whole department was and frankly angry to learn of the m._c._c.'s failure to adequately secure this prisoner u._s. Attorney general william bar blasting the federal jail for what he called serious irregularities. He's that are deeply. Concerning to the bottom bar promising federal bureau of investigation and the department of justice inspector general would get to the bottom of what happened. Multimillionaire multimillionaire financier was found unresponsive in his cell early saturday morning and later pronounced dead at a local hospital. The new york medical examiner conducted an autopsy sunday but has not determined the cause of death pending further information app scene had been held in the federal jail since early july when he pleaded not guilty to charges a running a sex trafficking ring of underage girls some as young as fourteen he was placed briefly on suicide wash after he was found in his cell with marks on his neck collage when he third but he was taking off suicide watch at the end of july according to protocol for the special housing unit where he was kept guard. You're supposed to check on inmates meets every thirty minutes but a source tells c. n. N. epstein cell was not regularly monitored the night before he was found dead was just a matter of incompetence indifference or was it something wanna ferries epsteins apparent suicide comes less than twenty four hours after over a thousand pages of documents containing more disturbing sex trafficking allegations against epstein were unsealed in a related lawsuit. One of his alleged victims filed against one of his associates as for as teens accusers now robbed of a chance to face jason court of law bar and says this is not over but let me assure you that this case will continue on against anyone who was complicit with epstein any co conspirators should not rest easy the victims deserve justice and they will get and there's more on the legal front day. Epstein accusers are asking a federal judge to unwind the non-prosecution agreement edstein reached with federal prosecutors in florida over a decade ago as part of his previous sex abuse case that will give authorities greater power to go after alleged co conspirators that two thousand seven deal granted immunity to to have scenes co-conspirators and identified four women by name. Well see the jones in new york for us athena. Thank you just ahead ahead. Experts fear deadly mishap involving nuclear powered russian missile may have just caused the worst nuclear accident since the chernobyl disaster. Stay with us <music>. You're in the situation finding the right pros for home. Projects can be tough and spark a lot of questions like how do i find the pro who can help will they do a good job. Will i get a fair price. That's where homeadvisor can help from leaky faucets to major remodels. 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Calls missile the sky faults apparently not just a nuclear tipped cruise missile but one that's actually powered by a nuclear engine as well and you're absolutely right president president trump weighing in on this as well saying is learning a lot from this miss out that took place and a lot of people are very concerned about the quality of the air in that area the russians for for their part wolf not acknowledging that it was this new type of rocket and not saying whether or not there is actually any radiation that was released. Here's what we're learning for tonight. Confusion and concern about a mysterious explosion and a missile test gone wrong that some now fear could be the worst russian nuclear disaster since turnover moscow acknowledged oblast took place at a naval range last week but won't say whether it was nuclear instead. They're saying liquid fuel all caught fire during trials in the arctic north leading to the blast local authorities initially said they recorded a short term spike in radiation levels but their statement was later deleted and the defense ministry claims no dangerous substances were released after the explosion but tonight experts tells c. n. n. satellite the images appear to show that the russians have sent special nuclear fuel carrier ship to the area that ship is used to carry a nuclear fuel and russia in the past has i used to transport radioactive reactor unit from the nuclear powered cruise missile russia's state run nuclear agency. Five employees were killed in the blast three. Excuse lucia in the chain of tragic accidents happen although our preliminary in our analysis indicates. They were fighting to get the situation in the control. Unfortunately that failed last year. Putin revealed russia is testing nuclear earlier powered cruise missiles to counter. Nato's missile defense system is e._m._c. thing now that the missile launch and ground tests were successful if we can begin developing a completely new type of weapon strategic nuclear weapons system with a nuclear powered missile. If this was nuclear it would not be the first time moscow muddle. That's messing after a potential nuclear mishap in one thousand nine hundred six the soviet union didn't acknowledge a noble disaster until western nations detected the heightened radiation levels in europe. You'll need to move quickly and you'll need to move catholic. Thousands of people died in the aftermath of that meltdown which is now the subject of the h._b._o. Series chairman and in two thousand moscow kept its own public in the dark about the sinking of the kursk nuclear submarine killing all one hundred eighteen sailors on board leading to harsh criticism of new russian president vladimir putin tonight more questions than answers answers remain as vladimir putin's office still has not commented at all on the explosion leading russians and the world guessing how dangerous the aftermath might be and we'll just to give you an idea of how low the confidence and the local authorities and their information is with the people who live in that area. We're getting being media. Reports that apparently there was a run on pharmacies in the adjacent towns in that area people buying iodine tablets obviously to try and counteract any sort of radiation they believe could be in the air wolf pretty scary stuff indeed front in moscow fax. <hes> very much coming up north korea follows up another round of missile launches with a rather other crude and vulgar complaint. President trump is touting what he described as a beautiful letter from kim jong hoon. What's the brutal dictator up to now tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Zanny offers thousands of affordable. I wear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups no hassles just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visit zany today at dot com slash c._n._n. Tonight right another twist and kim jones campaign to win over president trump. We're learning new details about a recent letter. The north korean dictator sent to the president and what it might mean for u._s. U._s. relations with a crucial ally brian todd is on the story for us brian. So what is came up to now. We'll tonight kim. Jong hoon appears to be doubling down on a tactic. He's been using for months. He's been trying to drive a wedge between president trump and his south korean ally moon jae in and the north koreans have now resorted to using curse words to portray to the south koreans and the worst possible light tonight as north korea's brutal dictator continues to play pen pals at the president he is also trying to drive a wedge between america and one of its most important allies kim jong wounds foreign ministry is threatening to freeze south korea out of future future nuclear talks and expressing anger over the joint us-south korean military exercises underway this week. Kim's regime is accusing choosing south korea and its president moon jae in of trying to disguise those military drills by changing their name putting out a rare statement in english that reads an expletive the the hard and dry still stinks even if it is wrapped in a flowered cloth. This is the kind of bombast that we've come to expect a pyongyang's propaganda machine and and been scatalogical doesn't change the fact that north korea's basically just dumping on the south koreans right now. They don't respect moon. They're looking for equality with the united states states in an apparent attempt to win that equality kim jong hoon sent another personal letter to president trump which the president again called beautiful it was hand hand-delivered and it wasn't touched by anybody they literally take it from north korea to my office. We have the old fashioned system. You don't have to worry about leaks. Something nice about that says in the letter trump says kim complained a lot about the joint us-south korean exercises and trump in the tweet said that in the letter kim even did the unheard of saying he was sorry for something saying it was a quote small apology for testing the short range missiles and that this testing would stop when the exercises and trump and his team have minimized several short range missile tests. Kim's regime has conducted over the past few weeks even though oh experts say they pose a threat to million including the roughly eighty thousand u._s. Military personnel in south korea and japan as north korea develop develops. These capabilities enhances their ability in a conflict to be able to threaten attack american civilians and military personnel living across east asia. The veteran and diplomats say the young dictator is again. Manipulating donald trump's ego in an effort to get sanctions on north korea lifted and appeal trump away from his allies in the region. I i believe for kim jong un this is all about playing to <hes> donald trump's vanity conveying to him that you're the man you can do the deal that nobody has been able to do before analysts say that while all this is going on it is very possible even probable that kim jong hoon is still manufacturing nuclear warheads and perfecting his long range missiles all in secret so that if the entire process with the united states breaks down he's is going to have new capabilities to show off and to use for provocations wolf are brian. Thank you brian todd reporting coming up. We'll have more on the escalating feud between the president and and <hes> the <hes> former trump loyalist known as the move. 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Hard Factor 8/14: Anthony Scaramucci "Mooch" Is On Fire & We Interviewed Him!!  Is Barstool Unionizing & Will Hard Factor Jeff Be Fired?

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Hard Factor 8/14: Anthony Scaramucci "Mooch" Is On Fire & We Interviewed Him!! Is Barstool Unionizing & Will Hard Factor Jeff Be Fired?

"Would it is joe. Man randy savage and this factor in there is no one. Does it better now but it does it better myself. Go ahead. Tell me something right down. <music> <music> welcome to another episode of heart factor. It is wednesday august fourteenth and we have a packed show you. We do huge big one i up. I'm going to cover frito rado gate. I don't know if you guys saw chris cuomo being called free. No it's a big thing oh how horrible yeah it's real. It's real bad person. It's like when someone calls me a mic. I'm like what did what'd you say well. That's fine menacing story. We'll get into it and then i was going to give us a little news flash on the barstool ars stool union dispute so what's the union. We don't need anybody else at barcelo apparently so we're going to get into that we got an interview with anthony scaramucci the mooch and his wife and a guest appearance with anderson cooper. That's right it's going to be what a tease you might not hear you might not here anderson cooper on the podcast but you'll see him on the video content. Anderson cooper did the let's say yup and as goober definitely a guest on hard factor now all right. Let's get into freight. Oh game so you guys know who chris cuomo is right not so sure yes yes c._n._n. Anchor and proud italian american okay. Mark got it correct if you didn't know who he was just okay. I didn't know until like two weeks ago. I thought it was just the governor of new york thank you it'd be worse. I thought people were just saying his name wrong. I thought they were the same person gotcha so that's andrew cuomo the governor of new york this is chris cuomo as mark said c._n._n. Anchor and proud italian-american couple of fritos andrew and chris right anyone's anyway this c._n._n. Anchor was he was at a beer garden and he's always a little bit too juiced up. If you've ever watched chris cuomo he just is is always a little bit too amped and so this sets the scene yeah he's acheron is from a from a meltdown to maybe one <hes> so naturally what i assumed to be trump supporters. I don't know two guys or a guy at a beer garden garden dot chris cuomo komo out and they took the opportunity to confront him about his opposing points of views from there's by calling him frago no they did not do you guys get it. Ah get it. I get it okay godfather his right. We'll get into the history of freight. Oh in a second but i knew it was basically kumo. Who we covered before is like a jacked up. Keebler elf went absolutely ape shit on these kids he he he basically said that. Calling an italian frito is like calling a black person. The n word yeah no is no isn't yeah no. It isn't not at all. It's more like like if you're kingpin fan calling someone a munson but yeah not at all well they don't call people muslims. They say people are going to get out there in the middle of nowhere what these kids in their whole yeah right. It's an individual insult not a racial insult but when they say they're saying freight oh because he's italian or because frito sold his brother out spoiler turns go betrayer okay. He's a betray anyways. Chris cuomo said that frito is what punk bitches from the right call him and then he repeatedly told the kid that he would wreck his shit which is pretty standard for like a beer garden dust up in my book which is exactly how afraid reacted in the godfather to when he was tested. I don't know if you're right. I think you're right about that. He i said how he said. How could you think that i believe in cry at michael. I think the freight doth protest too much yeah right yeah but anyways cuomo maybe right about being called fratto being offensive to him but he's dead wrong about his assessment of the meaning of freight. Oh and it being considered like a racial. Slur flirts the term the term freight oh comes from the godfather movie series we're fredo betrays his brother michael the head of the corleone <hes> crime family and he gets caught doing it and he he was destined to do it because fredo. If you look at the corleones he was definitely born premature but he was also the older brother. That's price saying is the older brother. He didn't get to look older than sunny but sunny sunny wasn't a real brother is. Let's see what allies us. This is wrong with you. You haven't seen the he's not a real brother to wells point. He called him frito. He didn't call him guido with guido's italian italian slur slur right this is just a term for a turncoat has betrayed like a yellow belly or something like your your occurred yeah exactly it's not a racial slur because this has nothing to do with your character it only has to do you know a racial. Slur only has to do with your genetics. This term has to do with your care. Correct rado has everything to do with your character has nothing to do with genetics correct correct yeah <hes> <hes> so really besides it. They're both words. They don't have really much in common at all. I saw he wasn't anchoring the night after he had that that incident and he was on vacation yeah. You don't drop that well. They tried to strip the video from youtube to you. Don't drop that n. Word reference you can get away with it. That was a mistake apparently didn't call this guy. Afraid oh and get away with it now. You don't both things are correct. You don't do it no but he's become a meme. You can call people afraid oh now it's funny because of chris cuomo and by the way chris when the kid called you afraid oh he was definitely insulting you personally and not all italians. I i wanna make sure that that's clear from this. <hes> brought game. He really thought himself by going so getting so triggered on this because everywhere he goes now. People are gonna yelling for the rest of sure and a perfect example is like go up to a night wolf and call him afraid. Oh you're gonna get the same reaction option. Motorcyclists don't make eye contact with wolf. I don't look tonight wolf. You don't even come near night well. I don't care what you call me now. You don't want to bring everyone called him the rest of his life yeah he blew it. He's clutch on one of these guys but also maybe this shit should not have been beating public figures. There's into screaming matches and a beer garden and then videotaping them a little bit of you. Did the wrong thing. Those guys were just following up. I wanna know who he is called him afraid. Oh totally call them. Afraid right. Yes a famous people stopped getting baited into the fray to- trap taking it to the internet commander mandarin chief demain donald trump re tweeting the video of freight. Oh yelling sorry chris there you go yelling at the kids already started. Donald donald trump says i thought chris was frago. Also period read the truth hurts totally lost. It low ratings at c._n._n. Here's the video of cuomo yelling so i thought that story was surreal to have pop up to show up as a top story art factor but wes why don't you tell us about a union dispute on at barstool becoming national news yes so unless you're living under a rock or stuck in a timeshare meeting. They got a couple of free nights at any win them. I choose. Did you get them yeah. I got real close. There's wyndhams everywhere. They're all over the place you wouldn't you wouldn't believe it so you probably saw that our fearless leader they have portnoy aka l pez weighed in on lesser barstool competitor the ringer and its employees plans ends to unionize l pez tweet saying quote heard the ringer employees wants to unionize little refresher how i feel about unions and a posted a link with the previous blog. He wrote about unionization of the writers of the gawker. Here's a little from that blog. I hope and i pray that barstool employees try to unionize. I can't tell you how much i want them to unionize just so i can smash their little union to smithereens nothing would please me more than to break it into a million pieces unionized idea and he called out a few borstal <hes> <hes> people in between there. I'm not gonna mention their names but he just like union guys yeah so that point where barely so so following that rafi lester sir and an apparent journalists then tweeted quote if you work for barstool and want to have a private chat about unionization process how little power your boss has to stop you and how you can leverage that power to make your life better. My d._m.'s are open which porno retweeted if you work for borstal sports d._n._s. man i will fire you on the spot right well. I mean he didn't even have to tweet that rafi. Just put out the fire. It's also kind of fair like it's like a lawyer. Who's like lose just like soliciting entire company like you want to sue your company like that's. I wasn't even dealing with him. He was trying to get traction on the story. Honestly that's what he's trying to do you want. He didn't expect anyone who's gonna actually d._m. I think he did. It's not like like barstools the u._f._c. people get paid pretty well. That's my point. It's like i get unions especially for like the writers guild of america going through a tough time right now. This is not right. Who's gonna america's. Dave is our bloggers offers that are getting paid very well with our colleagues and steve is making a hundred times. The employees health as one hundred times in gambling debt as the regular employment was just very clear. I i was a little inside baseball. You make of it what you will win sybase. I'm just saying it's like you know what bloggers don't eat fucking. You know no need to unionize borstal. We're we're. We're getting into the union breakdown earlier than i thought my in my family. The only union people i know are steel. Mill workers cops teachers and people people who rig upstages all muddy more office post office. Is that a much more dangerous professions than blogging right yeah. Did you hurt your you get carpal again carpal tunnel again. I mean you have every opportunity to be successful at barstool. If you want to get flown to the biggest sporting event for free again private jet as big as it is a big hug and princess from the writer thing i do stand with the writers guild of america yeah but that's not bloggers now funny part no no but the journalists unionists are coming out telling barstool of people that we don't know what's good for ourselves and that we need to unionize because all the rest of the journalists are unionized not barstool which is an interesting take because they're basically saying basically forcing the way that the industry has been run on us and you know maybe we don't wanna play by the same rules does not a machine fucking you. Journalists and other companies also get paid dick including the washington post and big like newspapers and barshop employees get paid better and they're also more like entertainers journalists. They're like combo. Oh right comedian entertainer journalists bloggers whatever the fuck but like definitely not the same thing as a journalist that works for the paid twenty grand a year bullshit. They want us to unionized nice so they don't look back they needed. This story got bigger though the story got bigger so a._f._c. Then decided to chime in and get into with al perez and the meeting of the two who most two of the most intimidating and popular personalities on twitter so a._f._c. <hes> clapped back saying if you're a boss tweeting firing threats to employees trying to unionize unionize you're likely breaking the law and can be sued in your own words on the spot <hes> all workers in the u._s. Have the protected freedom to organize for better conditions. I can't believe she didn't drop a bar. Working employees reference ran out of character yeah. No i worked at a bar and i was a bartender by the way right and then you know <hes> l pez retweeted heo see welcome to the thunderdome debate me so everyone he'll he also called her. Oh crazy oh cortez. This was the best taking the portnoy bait. I've ever fucking seen in his so eos. I love it. Yeah can't help resolve got forty thousand new twitter followers hours today going further donald trump junior re tweeted saying picking a fight with still president and barstool sports is probably the biggest mistake has ever made made on twitter so i hope the debate isn't her district. We know it's really good for everything and everyone is manhattan dave. They've got a lot of everyone involved. It's good for right except for pedantic as dave thought we were going to start a union on the spot because of a fictitious blog that never got published saying that hard factor jeff junior was pro union so then he almost fired jeff de lo thinking goes out factor jeff. I'm going to kill oh you and then we made it out of. We can say we know very well. The press number goes in this show but if he did we'd say pres- jeff lows in part of our show he's the light camera emerald magic store lights gave magic yeah so you know and then the the guys that barstool that by mardi mush made made a hilarious video just mocking the whole thing about how great they have it at barstool. It was very well done <hes> it was it was awesome. They also big thing like got saying i got. I've worked my whole life in jobs where i pounded a keyboard never been unionized before. I don't see why would unionize. No you need a union where there's a machine gene. That's bigger than you. That's fucking you but that's not far sure everybody in the world is affected by that. We'll mention if you're getting low wages in danger of like workers chris comrades extreme amount anyway on the internet plus. I'll be doing the moocher. Let's get over to the mooch. 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If you use the factor promo code that we the the people holsters dot com slash factor promo code factor for ten bucks off get yourself a holster heart b-actor harvard law graduate white house communications medications director from july twenty fifth to the thirty first two thousand seventeen born on long island anthony scaramucci mooch welcome to the show. It's great to be here having a great time. I hope you guys are having a great. Oh you know what i love. The set like that whole hulkamania tank top yet. You know you guys made my life. After i got blown from the white house i was like seeing bohemian rhapsody with you know that i did part of my tank. I mean it was like it was unbelievable. Yeah so speaking of that mooch. How'd you first get involved with barstool. I heard it's a funny story yeah. Nobody's guys called me. You're like you should be the sportsman of the year. Tom brady he could throw seven touchdowns but you got your ass shot up at the white house and talking about steve bannon auto fillet xio uh-huh we want you to come in and sing. The bohemian rhapsody scare mood scaramucci. Can you do the fandango. I said sign me up and then the big added added vitamin on part of my take excellent. Can we get a little scare much guy upsetting big gags. I said he had some man boobs. Do push ups. I haven't been invited back well. You got a lot of bamboo. It was on this show hard factor camp central yeah but you guys aren't attack. You guys tagged think you guys have figured out. If you're gonna attack attack back tough guy we know that the poor guy attack and right now he's like. It's like trump trump noble. He's like melting down at the core group. What we you alluded to a comment you made. I'm not steve bannon. I'm not trying to suck my own cock. I'm here to serve the country. How does it feel to say the greatest thing white house press secretary ever said well. I was the cops director but by the way and that was a little bit of fake news. Look at see my fingers yeah how flexible the habit to i thought i was on the phone with friends. He wanted to give me blown up. Sui ran out and got me blown up so mission accomplished so that was that was the legendary comment among the millennials okay. They love that stuff. Did you ever observe steve trying signed to suck his own car or no but you know when i left the white house jared kushner went into his office said. I didn't realize you were doing hot yoga in here for less months. Ah i feel like if you could suck his cock going back to the size then you could probably smell his own ass which i feel like he'd rather do you don't wanna smell. I'll tell you i mean you. You know one of the greatest things about our civilization is that god made the bannon that ugly to save our civilization that uh-huh well no he's got so many wacko white nationalist who who ideas and he's actually a quick talker and he's got. I a well-versed notion of history yeah. He's a smart psychopath yeah. He's a smart psychopath. God made him so bill. Murray was planning my saturday lied. I said he was putting out a skin care product line on blotch scott. This guy is so ugly otherwise we would have been a lot of trouble you. You were featured on saturday on saturday night. Live as well. You play deal hater. Yeah bill hader pledge you. I'm the mucci. Go hater play me. I thought he needed a a little bit more hairspray and a tighter time next time no one's perfect anthony no one's perfect well. We got a few questions. You have five kids congrats on having all the sex sir can you can you tell when you've knocked your wife up at this point is just like that's let me ask you. Can you tell whoa well. Let's let's we ask. The question. West said that you can tell to it two hours. After it's very firm by the way clearly it is very strong. Congratulations kids look just like it. We've seen the kids on twitter. I ah she's answering those questions. That is awesome great great job there. Who's next trump stuff. Questions agents per year tweet on monday at trump. I'm gonna quote it. You're losing your fastball very weak troll. You seem to have a different outlook coming hard at trump trump. When did his spell finally break on you or no no no. He's coming hard at me coming to me. I was on the show with a woman in katherine rampage now and she can tell you i was actually defending the guy and then he goes ballistic on me on twitter right away old shirley the article but i enjoyed the article today controlling the walk forces for katherine. Katherine katherine was just quit. Who is the nicest coming into the green room but it's been more friday night. She likes me a lot. More today was going full old jihad on the guy because he's not attack me like that. You're you're you're using the presidential twitter feed to bully a your fellow citizens. That's taking the bully pulpit and focusing too much on the word. Bully mood wasn't milan. John hang on wasn't melania like anti cyberbullying. I thought she had the whole best program. I don't understand why guy so crazy but but he he does staff because he knows everybody hates them and so he's doing that to suppress all of these politicians the fall line. It's a little bit like the you know oh to nike in game taking taking out all the zombies like that vaporize to me. That's a good comparison so with trump. Though was it an accumulation of all the shit that he said that's divisive because that's the one thing guys if you can following me. I'm not trump apologies. I'm a trump supporter right right right now right explained definitively what he's doing and what i like about it and what i don't lie about it. There was a few things i said on the bill maher show friday night. He didn't like that so he took to twitter and started writing me up on twitter and and then he was in a press spray this morning by the helicopter and he was lighting me up more so that you're neutral on the president now. You said that publicly resign <music>. I'm neutral because i don't know who's running against them children because i'm still hopeful that either drops out of the race day replace them because trust me the the people that work closely with no he's completely crazy at this point and they're just trying to figure out how to what are they gonna do. They're just afraid to admit how crazy he's this crazy but at least one person because his twitter is pretty funny. I gotta tell you i used to like hanging out with my wife madame at a yankee game one night. We socialized with him a few times. I don't know i really like them but this whole in battlement business where he's gotta shoot it everybody. I think he's driving the guy crazy crazy how did you how do you think the twenty twenty play. Do you think he's gonna win. Everything anyone could beat him depends on who is running against if he's running show. It'll be very close but i think he'll oh probably lose if the economy's not doing well if the economy is doing well it'll be very close. I think he'll probably went with elizabeth warren. I think it's a forty state landslide landslide for trump on. I'm an objective guy. I'm not in the tank for anybody. I'll just tell you what i think but i do think the guy's losing it and we got to replace place them because you know this guy doesn't talk to anybody in the white house anymore. He doesn't take counsel from anybody ways estimate his weight. What do you think he weighs. What do you think i think that's. I think that's an accurate way. But what did you say yeah. She's you so in two thirty nine to fifty like that. I don't buy ten ten women's. I know you now now. Was he five foot six. Now i weigh two thirty eight and i'm i'm six feet tall and well you know he could be to fifty but i actually maybe maybe you guys. I don't know i'm not i'm not i'm not great on that and so you know i have body just more the president insulting. The president called me neurotic nervous and that's like calling me like tall and slim. You know what i mean. I mean both things like totally. Draw talk to guys jackie. Now is obviously neurotic and nervous anthony here at heart factor news. We like to break exclusive so can we have it right here. Can we have hugh declaring for presidency two thousand twenty. We get the feeling that you might declare. Let me let me ask you something. No can i get the hard sack their endorsement. That's a yes yeah you you. You get what i'll come in and arts actor interview you can interview me for the president said okay and if i can get your guys endorsement and i can unleash the borstal sports fans into the election process process how much fun with me we're going to be the texas tribune festival so we'll see you at the texas tribune festival. Maybe we do it. They're in a live video. That would be a lot refund. What is that that's not the twentieth and when you're down here we got we got ashes. What's your stance on legalization of marijuana well. It doesn't really matter what my stance is. Marijuana being legalized and so at the end of the day that train has already left mostly. I'm asking i wanna know if you'll smoke a fatty with us in protest against texas texas marijuana laws when you're down here in my so i gotta be honest you guys are not gonna believe is i never smoked pot so no because i come from a family of addictive disorders started avoid metoo anthony spare yeah yeah bill clinton never smoked cigars a little double entendre there. Hey everybody did you. Did you see i i even mrs moves laughing at thank you thank you. I'm here all podcast. Did you see on the news today that that day portnoy our president was was trending because he was he was willing to bash down any union that may have formed at barstool sports came out of over it donald donald junior support or do you have any thoughts on that well first of all. I love you guys. Whatever you guys wanna do supporting but you know. I think i think the problem with unions. Once you get into collective bargaining situation it can be difficult because you're sorta stuck in a lockstep with the management. I've always told people try to work at places that are going to pay you collect the borghi situation. I don't know but whatever you guys are forearm for fair enough love that action the mooch the mooch really caught on and they're roughly thirty one different shirts on red bubble dot com right now about thirty two so we're gonna make one in addition to make or they have a decal featuring the famous mooch starter pack mean. Can you name the four images that were in the starter. Pack me debuted mooch starter pack mcmillan sunglasses that was one of them and maybe it was a suit sunglasses those the front. My wife is trying to divorce me at that time. You haven't got pregnant recently and often don't care don't care yeah. I love it. Sunglasses good enough you guys gotta come on our podcast mooch in the mrs loved nice yeah. I'm gonna have sammy call you but but i know the mood sunglasses what else was in the most value so you also had an application for employment. Yes okay you had a screen grab from a <hes> midnight cowboy. Okay yeah right okay and the last one that i have like gene simmons platform shoes because i'm so short or the starter pack and i didn't get the midnight cowboy screen shot to be honest with you but the last one is a picture of you in front of the in front of the the white house seal not make sense the white house. Was there a picture of me thrown on my ass outside the white house flipping you off. What was that like. They were there for ten days to get access to any of the secrets. Do they even give you a key. What what happened so i was there for eleven don't hurt my confirmed on his twitter feed that it was eleven day all right yeah. I don't know i mean i was in and out quickly but i did have an amazing time and i had a fun on press conference in flew air force one a few times you flew it your pilot. Were not me but i mean i flew on both look. It is what it is a great country intrigue the guy's habit of hard time. He's probably having a nervous breakdown inside the white house so i sorta pray for him. I pray for the country and if he calms himself down how to be better for everybody in bed for the world absolutely keeps talking himself. You know i mean it's gonna be. It's gonna be a rough. Fifty feels like you said a position to do good or do bats. Maybe he should do good so we got a few more questions for you. Know you gotta go to be honest with you. I'm actually rooting for my love. Mike nash don't don't bully me on your twitter feed because i'm gonna punch back. That's ridiculous right. Don't don't grab the bull by the horns. We get punches back so i feel like we've become friends already ready but we have to ask you quickly. Since we become friends i read something on the internet that said you're potentially north of two hundred million dollars in that worth so we're wondering if you could just pay us twenty grand in a month and we can push whatever agenda you want people forget this interview eventually but you could just by carelessly push anything you want the twenty two month you accept the offer yet i've got i've got five kids that i'm probably gonna get another. Look how we can be your next. Yeah you're gonna have you're gonna have harvard kids. Yeah we already established seats draw yeah so yeah. I'm probably going to kid's fair enough. We'll we'll. We'll check back with you the texas charles. Let's wrap it up. Where we we got. We'll build up so let's let's end on a good note so go mooch. I know you probably didn't have the best relationship with rinse priebus somebody somebody that nobody has a good relationship with a few minutes. Why don't y'all gonna tell you guys a little bit of a baby. Though you disappear yes look a baby. He tried to destroy everybody and then he got like all like hissy fit. You know what i mean but but to me. I don't even talk about the guy because because it's like yesterday's news but if he did something stupid like came after me obviously but here's the thing about him taking the high road. I liked it. Is everything about government. That's bad though you gotta be very careful about these people that are very ruthless very dishonest people. You feel like he might be queuing on you. Ooh what's that feel like he might be. Do you think he's i don't. I don't know i don't know if he's that i mean jeffrey epstein mood. Who do you think jeffrey epstein yeah i. I'm not a big conspiracy guy guys. I think by the way i'll tell you something about jeff f. Seeing that was in the paper today he taught physics in high school he had to figure out a way to hang himself on that bed with the sheet tied around his neck and you know that that will that requires some forced to his neck from almost kneeling position. You've got an physics and geometry you saying you're pro education. Well come off the suicide. I feel bad about the tragedy. Is there a is there a p tape mooch. No creativity guys that germany go on on donlan. Tell us how we can listen to. You can listen to your podcast don sour. How can we list of the pod. How can we listen to your pod. How do you listen to the podcast is mooching the mrs. It's cheaper than therapy is very hot wife bashing my skull for forty five and i'm telling you it's very entertaining okay. Thanks moods or as much awesome thank you. I want to see you down here. Seeing austin god bless i see that was anthony scaramucci his wife apparently which and anderson cooper right you didn't hear it on the interview but look out for the anderson cooper cameo video will drop it today behalf. Hey guys that was a fun episode heart factor right absolutely sweet. I felt good about about it for anthony. You see us. She's september is going to be huge. Live show right so yes so september four th wednesday september fourth doing a live power from east side tavern in austin texas assists with special guest p._f._c. commenter so if you're on austin come check it out. We're going to be kicking off l._s._u. Texas weekend or week really because it starts on wednesday. Oh tiger beyond that on the thirteenth timber. We're going to be in houston at axelrod bar and grill live show with hundreds. It's actually just a bar but yeah beer garden. It's a bunch of froze goes up there but yeah the thirteenth. We're going to be an alive alive. 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