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The Lessons We Need in the US With Dr. Larry Arnn of Hillsdale College
"So I want to ask you and be respectful of your time doctor Arne, what do you believe as a scholar of the declaration of the constitution are the lessons we now need to implement today? We're in crisis. Our country is more fragile than ever. The latest poll shows that only 39% of Americans are proud of their country and its current form. I'm definitely proud to be an American, but it's hard for me to be over the top excited about where we are currently. What can we learn from the declaration and apply it to our troubles and our difficulties today? I focus more and more in these times on this. There are two statements, one from tocqueville, and one from James Madison. Tocqueville says that America is unique. He comes in 1832. He was a French aristocrat. France was the first centralized nation state. And he says there's more government in America than in France. It's just different. Because it's mostly local and voluntary. And that means in the management of hillsdale college, I don't believe in rules. I believe in goals. And you know, because goals, we all adopt them, and then everybody can figure out how to serve them. And the rules need to be very few and they need to be boilable down to be good. And just think what bureaucratic government is like, think of the rules that govern the schools, for example. Nobody can read them. Nobody does. But they can be used whenever there's a dispute, the person who gets to interpret the rule. More laws the less justice is Cicero would say, Madison said something similar to second thing is men are not angels and angels do not govern men. And that doesn't matter. It doesn't matter then if Anthony Fauci dynamic example has been there for 400 years and wrote the textbook on epidemiology, which he did. Give him power. He's just like the rest of us. And therefore, there's no solution to the human problem from empowering experts.
Thousands of Soldiers Risk Dismissal for Not Taking COVID Vaccine
"Are willing on a moment's notice to give their lives to give up their safety for us and what thanks do they get for their willingness to expose themselves to the risk of bullets and bombs? Well, simply because they won't expose themselves to a jab, The Pentagon has now set them up to be dismissed and it could come as early as today. It could come at any moment. They could dump 60,000 from our military, which is already being reimagined and being reconfigured and being neutered and emasculated. Over various policies from the Biden administration. Glenn youngkin in Virginia sent a letter a few days ago asking The Pentagon to at least delay, if not abolish this vaccine mandate. Yes, the same jab in the arm, which has not stopped Anthony Fauci from getting COVID twice in the last month. Thank goodness he had the jabs, though, otherwise it could have been worse, right? Everybody? So we're watching the military. And they could get gutted at any moment because of the stand that they have taken personally and the more that we see the damage reports from the VAERS incidents reports of adverse effects, we see more and more of our healthiest young Americans are getting sick and even dropping dead because of side effects of the vaccine. And these are our healthiest bravest people that did not want to put themselves in harm's way of a vaccine that was rushed to the market and still being used used under a emergency use authorization. Oh yeah, they're still that, folks. It's still under emergency use.
Fauci says he's 'example' for COVID-19 vaccinations
"Doctor Anthony Fauci says he's feeling quite fine and recovering after testing positive for the coronavirus The nation's top infectious disease expert is 81 I think I'm an example given my age of what we're all talking about today I'm vaccinated I'm doubly boosted and I believe if that were not the case I very likely would not be talking to you looking as well as I look I think At a White House briefing Fauci said he began experiencing virus symptoms last week and tested positive a day later He was prescribed the antiviral drug paxil And I have now finished packs of it I'm still feeling really quite fine Packs a little bit has proven to be highly effective in preventing serious illness and death from the virus All is well with Fauci and thank you for asking Ed Donahue Washington
Fauci tests positive for virus, has mild COVID-19 symptoms
"The face of America's COVID-19 response has tested positive for the coronavirus The national Institutes of health says doctor Anthony Fauci has mild symptoms The 81 year old Fauci is fully vaccinated and received to booster shots The NIH says he has not recently been in close contact with senior government officials including President Biden for whom he serves as chief medical adviser Sagar Meghani Washington
Cheryl Chumley on the Evil Forces Trying to Bring Down America
"Hey folks talking to Cheryl chumlee author of the new book lockdown, the socialist plan to take away your freedom to Sheryl, I was just saying that, you know, when I think of Nazi Germany, I know that there's real evil in the world, but the idea that there are people you mentioned Klaus Schwab and others who would be so dedicated to bringing down America. What do you suppose it is whether in someone like that or the people that collaborated with him, whether it's Fauci or the Democratic Party. What do you think it is that gives them such a fully formed hatred of America and a plan to want to bring it down? Well, in many of these people's minds, they think they're actually bringing about a good, right? Because evil doesn't always come in this form of violence where it's easy to name it's easy to see, right? A lot of times it comes. It looks 99% good and it's just that 1% that twists on the truth that is actually the evil part. And in the end, it doesn't matter. So if you look at Anthony Fauci, if you look at cloud Schwab, Bill Gates, for instance, perhaps they truly believe that what they're doing with this great reset. What they have in mind for the new America is something that will actually be good in the end. But that doesn't take away from the fact that when you're dealing with the seizure of God given liberties, that that is an evil to those who live in America and are born, you know, into a country where individual rights are supposed to be cherished and upheld. So evil comes in many forms, but I just think that the left saw at this particular time in American history that all the ducks were in a row. We have a feckless president in The White House who's able to be influenced and steamrolled over pretty much everything that should stand for America. And more importantly, we have a nation that has turned away from God.
Cheryl Chumley Describes Her Initial Red Flags About COVID-19
"If you've lived long enough, you realize that what happened when this initially, you know, burst on the scene and we're told you have to stay home and I thought to myself, this is utterly unprecedented in our lifetimes. There's no one roughly our age, unless you're very old, there's no memory in our culture of anything like this. Absolutely nothing. You'd have to go at least go to World War II for anything along the lines of what we've been experiencing. And because it's unprecedented, I really think that's why they were able to get away with it. In other words, that people will simply weren't prepared. I think we've always roughly speaking, trusted our government and the authorities, even if you have dramatic disagreements, you don't think that they're capable of what we have seen in the last two years. So it's kind of horrifying to see it happening. What was it that tipped you off, Cheryl initially, when you wrote about this in April of 2020? Well, one of the major red flags I initially noted was that Anthony Fauci came out and he predicted these gloom and doom deaths statistics. But he based at the stats on computer modeling, which anybody who follows the climate change alarmist debate knows that all the climate change alarmists that predict death to the entire world in 12 years or 8 years or whatever they come up with. It's all based on computer modeling. And computer modeling only gives you figures that are as accurate as those that you input. So you can have computer models tell you anything you want depending on what data you input. And it just defies logic that a man, a medical bureaucrat, can predict death anyhow, but to predict so many deaths based on computer statistics. That was one of the earliest red flags that I
Dr. Fauci Admits Mask Mandates Are All About Power
"I couldn't believe the news the other day that the Biden administration led by Tony Fauci and the CDC want to reinstate forcing people to wear masks on buses on trains on airplanes. And I happen to turn on Fox News channel yesterday afternoon. And what I saw just stunned me. It was Tony Fauci, and I didn't think he did Fox News, but maybe Neil cavuto is one of the safe Fox News hosts for lord Fauci. He sure isn't going to do Tucker Carlson's show anytime. I'm soon. And there's Tony Fauci admitting out loud what we've said all along. It has nothing to do with masks. It has nothing to do with mandates. It has to do with who gets to call the shots, who has the power. Don't believe me? Here was doctor Anthony Fauci. On Neil cavuto's show yesterday, on Fox News. Speculated in the past, and I will in the future, it's less about mandates on the plane than it is about who has the right and the authority and the capability of making public health decisions. And I believe that the Department of Justice is operating on the principle that decisions that are public health decisions along with the public health agency in this case, the CDC. So that's more of did you hear that? Did you hear what he said? It's less about mandates on the plane than it is about who has the right and the authority and the capability of making public health decisions. So The White House is going to insist on mask mandates again, but it's less about the mask mandate as it is who gets to make that decision.
Joe Biden Fantasizes About Banning Hand Guns
"Want to talk kind of about gun control and push back against a lot of Biden's kind of incoherent ramblings about this. It would be not even newsworthy if Joe Biden didn't have power, but he does have power. And Joe Biden is going to try to pass some form of federal gun confiscation, including what he calls increased background checks and red flag laws. And so I want to just repeat the point. These things might sound reasonable if you haven't been paying attention the last couple of years. If you have not been paying attention about what the federal government does to try to put you on lists and then act on those lists, whether it be vaccination lists, whether it be COVID surveillance, moms and dads being classified as domestic terrorists. So anytime now they act as if expanding the reach of the federal government, like, oh, well, we don't want these certain people to be able to own guns. What's the criteria who decides it? Who's in charge of it? Do you trust those people? To the federal government response to COVID give you more trust to the government or less trust to the government. So the best example against gun control that I always make is pick a random federal bureaucrat and then fill in the sentence of the power you're about to give them. So I think some of you listening might say Charlie, come on, we got to have waiting times and red flag laws like, okay, would you trust Anthony Fauci? To execute such a policy. Would you trust Merrick Garland to execute such a policy? Would you trust Kamala Harris? To execute such a policy. If the answer is yes, then you have far more trust in these Democrat operatives that call themselves cabinet secretaries than I do.
Will We Ever Get Justice for Enduring the Lockdowns?
"Ramona from North Carolina, Charlie, are we ever going to get justice? For what they did during the lockdowns. She has some pretty, let's say aggressive four letter words in there, some swear words. So I'm not going to continue that. So I'm just going to summarize her question like that. There's a new story out that pairs nicely with Ramona's question. Remote learning according to freebie dot com had an even worse effect on U.S. students education than was previously known. K through 12 students who attended school from home in the 2021 school year lost 50% of their typical math curriculum learning, according to a Harvard study. Quote Emily oster from Brown university said it's pretty clear that remote school was not good for learning. Oh, who would have possibly been able to predict this? Anthony Fauci and all these people, Deborah birx, the scarf woman, did so much damage to our country. Children are at a low risk of severe illness of death from COVID-19 in school transmissions is also extremely rare. Quote, in places where schools reopened that summer and fall, the spread of COVID was not noticeably worse than in places where schools remain closed. Schools also reopen in parts of Europe without seeming to spark outbreaks. This is intergenerational abuse. While grandparents were able to still go, golf outside and see their property values increase their grandkids had masks on being abused in schools. Now, I'm not blaming the grandparents. I'm not. But there were plenty of people that recept the generis and octogenarians that were perfectly fine with locking down the country. While their kids and their grandkids and grandkids in particular have been totally and completely and permanently damaged by the lockdown agenda.
Fauci: Uptick in Covid, Biden is protected
"Because because because because the the the the cases cases cases cases are are are are rising rising rising rising across across across across the the the the country country country country with with with with nearly nearly nearly nearly half half half half the the the the states states states states reporting reporting reporting reporting an an an an increase increase increase increase but but but but the the the the severity severity severity severity is is is is not not not not rising rising rising rising Dr Dr Dr Dr Anthony Anthony Anthony Anthony Fauci Fauci Fauci Fauci says says says says an an an an uptick uptick uptick uptick was was was was expected expected expected expected after after after after mitigation mitigation mitigation mitigation policies policies policies policies like like like like mask mask mask mask wearing wearing wearing wearing were were were were lifted lifted lifted lifted each each each each individual individual individual individual is is is is going going going going to to to to have have have have to to to to make make make make their their their their calculation calculation calculation calculation of of of of the the the the amount amount amount amount of of of of risk risk risk risk that that that that they they they they want want want want to to to to take take take take in in in in going going going going to to to to indoor indoor indoor indoor Dan Dan Dan Dan isn't isn't isn't isn't going going going going to to to to functions functions functions functions president president president president Biden Biden Biden Biden who who who who was was was was vaccinated vaccinated vaccinated vaccinated and and and and EE EE EE EE boosted boosted boosted boosted has has has has not not not not been been been been wearing wearing wearing wearing masks masks masks masks all all all all the the the the time time time time and and and and just just just just days days days days after after after after the the the the event event event event with with with with him him him him more more more more than than than than a a a a dozen dozen dozen dozen DC DC DC DC officials officials officials officials have have have have tested tested tested tested positive positive positive positive for for for for cove cove cove cove it it it it yes yes yes yes he's he's he's he's mingling mingling mingling mingling there there there there but but but but we we we we feel feel feel feel that that that that the the the the protocols protocols protocols protocols around around around around the the the the president president president president are are are are sufficient sufficient sufficient sufficient to to to to protect protect protect protect it it it it that that that that you you you you made made made made his his his his comments comments comments comments on on on on ABC's ABC's ABC's ABC's this this this this week week week week with with with with George George George George Stephanopoulos Stephanopoulos Stephanopoulos Stephanopoulos I'm I'm I'm I'm Julie Julie Julie Julie Walker Walker Walker Walker
Who Is Controlling the American Church?
"Who is controlling the American church. What if I told you that the federal government had infiltrated parts of American evangelical Christianity? Well, Megan basham from the daily wire has done some amazing investigative reporting on this and research Megan. Welcome to the Charlie Kirk show. Thanks so much for having me, Charlie. So Megan, tell us you had an amazing video that I watched and I wanted to have you on the program. So build it out for us. How was the American church really infiltrated by left wing COVID narratives in the midst of the last two years? Well, you know, we've done a couple of extensive reports on this and they were all kind of condensed in that video. And it really started at the beginning of COVID when the federal government dispatched Frances Collins to he was the head of the NIH, the national Institutes of health, Anthony Fauci's boss, and he was dispatched to convince evangelicals to stop being resistant. And he's been very clear and on record on tape saying, I was sent to deal with evangelical resistance to lockdowns to mask mandates to vaccine mandates. So he went into churches. He had a lot of really strong relationships with what you might call the elite evangelical class, some very well-known pastors like Tim Keller, Rick Warren, and stetzer at the Billy Graham center at Wheaton college, Russell Moore, who was then head of the public policy arm of the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S., which is the Southern Baptist convention. So just a really influential people. And he drew on those friendships to do interviews, podcasts, where he was presented as the strong Christian brother. To come on and give advice on how and why to submit to all of these COVID rules. And when he presented these things, he didn't do it just from a medical point of view. He, along with these pastors, presented it as this is how you show your love for Jesus. This is how you obey the gospel. And that was really something that they didn't just say, look, we're presenting a scientific point of view. Here is one scientist you might want to listen to. They didn't present any counter points of view from the scientific community, but that they really punched it up with if you want to love your neighbor. If you want to obey Christ, this is how you do it.
The Return of Tony Fauci?
"Anthony Fauci being a creature of the extra constitutional order has this to say he's back, now that the Ukraine and Russia polling is going a little south, there isn't as much consensus for intervention as one would have thought, the great reset crowd is beating the drum there, not quite satisfied yet, play cut 9. You know, you've said you're going to stay in this job until we get out of the pandemic phase. Of course, you've been serving your country now for decades. Are we approaching the point where we are past the pandemic phase? And you'll go get some rest? I'm not so sure, George. I want to make sure we're really out of this before. I really seriously consider doing anything different. We're still in this. We have a way to go. I think we got clearly going in the right direction. I hope we stay that way. Yeah, we want to get out of it. Well, instead, Fauci gets less powerful if we actually get out of this. You know, they're bringing them out of the bullpen. They're bringing them right back in because the panic machine, the hysteria cycle that we're currently in, the, let's say, the pattern of frenzy that we have grown accustomed to. It needs another thing to latch on to because remember the energy has to be transferred somewhere and oh my goodness, they don't want to be transferred to something constructive, imagine if all this pent up energy actually went towards trying to lower opioid overdose. What are you trying to actually help the people? Fauci continued by saying and cut 12 if we see a surge in cases, we have to be prepared to pivot and perhaps reinstitute some of those restrictions. Play cut 12. If we do see a significant surge, particularly one that might result in increased hospitalizations, we have to be prepared to pivot and perhaps reinstitute some of those restrictions. Now remember, we've talked at great length about the great reset. We did that conversation at Jack hibbs church, which has been seen millions of times. And if we believe they're trying to accomplish the great reset, then it's all connected because they need fear.
Charlie Kirk on the Potential Bio-Labs in Ukraine
"Charlie, you're a friend. I want to talk to you about everything, but let's talk about something that I normally wouldn't talk about on this program, like bio labs. There are people listening to this program. Today's Monday who they haven't drilled down into this world. Can you sum it up and explain? Yeah, we did a whole hour on this and the short answer is we don't know the full extent of what is true and what is not. Here's what we do know is that Victoria Nuland did an entire Senate testimony where she said that there are biological laboratories in Ukraine and there really worried about them falling into the hands of the Russians. Okay, now what is biological laboratory? It could be anything. It could be a place where you develop biochemical weapons. It could be a place where you do gain of function research where you develop Chinese Corona type virus. In Ukraine. Potentially, we don't know. So then the State Department responds after Victoria Nuland kind of screws up this entire testimony. Can I guess? They said, absolutely not. This is false information. Close. Yeah, basically they said it's Russian propaganda. And they said, I'll get to that in a second. They think the constitution, the United States Constitution is Russian propaganda. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't think they'll stay had a big impact on James Madison. She wasn't alive yet, but anyway, so there are some good Russian Russian literature, mostly about depression and surviving imminent death. That's actually the great approach. That's great. The great contribution. But actually, look, when you say, when you say no kidding, okay? Because you live in this world, so it doesn't blow your mind the way it blows my mind. I haven't been doing satire. The idea that they would say that? Well, let me get to the whole, let me complete it really quick. There's a lot of details. So she says it, State Department says, okay, we admit there were Soviet era relics like they were Soviet era labs that used to exist and the Russians want to get their hands on them. So that doesn't make a lot of sense because no one was really worried about Chernobyl. Being taken over because when you say Soviet era, that is 30 years ago. Well, meaning that they're not denying that they're there, they're just saying that the Americans have no involvement. They're not of any geopolitical significance. Then you go to the Russian side of this, which the Russians are known liars are government is also known for lying, so take whatever it's worth. The head of their foreign minister comes out and says, we have come across active biochemical laboratories that the United States have been funding and have been involved in. Now, we would probably scoff at this if we didn't also have the last two years of experience. I was going to say of the Wuhan institute of virology and the National Institute of health and the fact that Anthony Fauci has now gone into the witness protection program. The moment that Vladimir Putin invades Ukraine, it's like Fauci has gone missing is he worried that there's going to be a revelation here? What were these laboratories doing innocent enough type of biochemical research, which I don't think can be done very innocently? Or was this another kind of a Petri dish, no pun intended of our State Department trying to play God and the farthest reaches of the corner of the world and was there gain of function research being done was Vladimir Putin worried that this could have made a pathogen that would then escape into Russia. These are all very valid questions. Our entire national security apparatus doesn't want us to ask these questions. Because they call it Russian
The Anthony Fauci Disappearing Act
"Thank you, man. I just point out for Matt salmon. And if you remember your old enough to remember the Cold War, when people would disappear from the top of the Soviet Union parade, they'd be gone. Tony Fauci's out of the parade now. He's gone. He's been disappeared. It's very interesting in telling. The state, Anthony Fauci is probably the easiest person to vindicate when you look at everything that has gone wrong with how the country managed COVID over the last couple of years. We've learned some real race stark lessons about what to do and what not to do. And I think that Anthony Fauci is the poster boy for everything that went wrong.
Did Obama Open a Dangerous Bio-Research Lab in Ukraine?
"Natalie, you broke a story on this, walk our audience through it. Sure, well, as I'm sure everyone knows, the American ruling class, their globalists at heart, they love to outsource and offshore virtually everything that's made America great, whether that's our military, our manufacturing capabilities and our factories, but the other thing we can add to that list, which is something we've documented extensively at the national polls is scientific research and not just any form of scientific research, but particularly very risky scientific research being carried out at BSL three and BSL four facilities as relate to the biosafety levels of different pathogens that these facilities are working with. So as you were talking about, there were some rumblings about the existence of bio labs specifically U.S. funded bio labs existing in Ukraine, which it faced value is kind of absurd given the fact that Ukraine is in a very, very contentious spot geopolitically and geographically. It's proximity to Russia, knowing that Russia is always wanted to invade Ukraine, but nonetheless, these facilities do exist. So the story we put up yesterday at the national polls had to do with what exactly the impetus was for the construction of these facilities and we found through actually finding deleted articles. There are no conspiracy theories, but certainly a little interesting that some of the articles documenting the existence and the creation of these bio labs in Ukraine are now missing from the Internet, but archived versions of these web pages actually show that it was all the way back in 2005 that someone you may have heard of, former senator and former president Barack Obama actually spearheaded the effort in the form of drafting a memorandum of understanding with Ukrainian officials to construct a bio laboratory facility in the city of Odessa, the article goes on it explains that the Department of Defense that is the U.S. Department of Defense also entered into the agreement with their Ukrainian counterparts. And what's even more really, I think, absurd about this story, independent of the fact that all these fact checkers and mainstream media outlets have continued to debunk the existence of the slab is that a 2011 report from the national academies of sciences, which is a taxpayer funded scientific group Anthony Fauci and other very prominent NIH officials have served on the advisory board of this group. They actually put out a report confirming the existence, not just of this single laboratory that Obama helped build. But actually several bio lab facilities in Ukraine.
Where Is Dr. Anthony Fauci? Senator Rand Paul Gives Us His Thoughts
"It. So senator, I got to ask you an unrelated question, but you're more qualified than anyone else to answer it. Where is Doctor Fauci? He seems as if he's just kind of vanished and disappeared. You know, he still for the mandates, he still for centralized planning. He still is a menace to the country. And I can promise you one thing. If we take over in November, I'm going to investigate every piece of paper he's laid his hands on. We're going to find out about the gain of function research and the Wuhan lab in China. We're going to also investigate the cover up of Fauci and doctor Collins to try to make sure nobody knew what was going on in that lab. And we're going to get to the bottom of this, not because I have any sort of dislike for him. I have a dislike for what he stands for, but I want to make sure that we never have this happen again. I think they could create a virus in a lab that could destroy our country. They could destroy the world. I mean, could destroy civilization as we know it. And I'm not alone in saying this. Other scientists who are not politicians who are not partisan are saying the same thing. So I can promise you this. We are going to get to the bottom of it, but I don't have the power to investigate unless we were to take over the Senate, so it is incredibly important. I think that we get people in position of power. Mike Lee, myself, we will be chairman of committee if we can win in November. And we will. And I think it's going to be large in part thanks
Inference: 'Thunder out of China' Details Fauci's Support for Gain-of-Function Research
"Anthony Fauci's been the director of the U.S. National Institute of allergy and infectious disease That's nigh aid since 1984 Over the last few decades he has expressed his support for gain of function research on numerous occasions In a 2011 op-ed for The Washington Post co author with Francis Collins the director of the NIH between 1993 and 2019 they made the case for viruses engineer quote engineered and isolated biocontainment laboratories As a means to identify quote genetic pathways by which such a virus could better adapt to transmission among people The benefits were not elaborated in detail the authors simply noting that quote important information and insights can come from generating a potentially dangerous virus in the laboratory The OPEC concludes with a brief consideration of the risk involved Now the following year Fauci published a paper in total research on the highly pathogenic H 5 NI influence of virus the way forward Again making the case for gain of function research In his commentary Fauci acknowledges the question of whether quote knowledge obtained from these experiments can inadvertently affect public health in an adverse way even in nations multiple time zones away He then invites the reader to consider a hypothetical scenario concerning an important gain of function experiment involving a virus with serious pandemic potential Performed in a well regulated world class lab by experienced investigators The information gleaned from the study is then used by another scientist who doesn't have the same training of facilities and is not subject to the same regulations Here's what he writes In an unlikely but conceivable turn of events what if that scientist becomes infected with the virus which leads to an outbreak and ultimately triggers a pandemic Many ass reasonable
Megan Basham: How the Gov't Used Evangelical Leaders to Spread Covid Propaganda
"Meghan welcome to the program. Thanks for having me. Happy to be here. What you wrote is so important, it is horrifying, it's scandalous. So let's just start with. The central thesis. But then I want to ask you how it is that you came to write about it. But what is this for people listening and folks trust me, this is very important, so please listen carefully. But Megan, tell us, what is the central thesis of the article? Well, if you're someone who's been following the major news cycle, you've seen probably revelations that doctor Anthony Fauci and doctor Francis Collins, the head of the national Institutes of health, leaked, there were emails that leaked that revealed that they were suppressing information about some important COVID facts that we now believe it probably leaked from a lab, we now have a lot of good evidence that masks were not that helpful. It's evolving every day. And so essentially the thesis is that the federal government, particularly Frances Collins in his role at the NIH, used his reputation as a man of great Christian faith and his connections and friendships with a lot of Christian leaders to come into churches and urge pastors to use their platforms to spread the narrative. He wanted spread to their congregations. This is a big deal, I'll say it again and again, again, in case anybody is not tracking what you write about in this article, which is a daily wire is scandalous. It's horrifying. And what happens to me whenever I read something like this is first I'm scandalized, but the same time I'm doubly scandalized by the fact that others haven't written about it that we're told we're not supposed to talk about this. It makes me angry as an American, certainly as a Christian infuriates me, disgusts me that we're living at a time when it takes this long for someone like you for the daily wire, which is not a Christian news site, but a standard place where journalism gets done to do something about this to write something
"anthony fauci" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed
"One step further when you have a virus that's able to mutate and get a new variant measles doesn't change it all and yet you need ninety. Plus percent of the population vaccinated to get really good herd immunity. So when you have a vaccine new virus that not only has high transmissibility. You need to get the overwhelming proportion of the population vaccinated if you wanna do it and that's what we're trying to do you know it's really frustrating. Do we have the solution to the problem. If everyone who's eligible to get vaccinated get vaccinated. You would not be having this conversation and the same distrust. The same disinformation that is preventing people from getting vaccinated. That's really come out you and really harsh way Somebody i listen to lecture and medical school and you've long been a household name in medical households but this pandemic obviously put you in a a spotlight in in a way that that is really sort of open up to politicization and the things that you say get parched and taken out of context on ask you just as as someone who trained to be a doctor who's fulfilled your responsibilities to the public in your public service now for much longer than i've been alive. How have you dealt with this politicization in this this attack on your name. How's it been and What would you recommend the rest of us who are not not nearly as exposed as you are. But but finding ourselves caught up in conversations where were debating something that really ought to be based in evidence and data but ultimately becomes extremely ideological and emotionally fraught. What's your what's your advice. The advice is to stick with your fundamental principles. The things you've learned medical school the importance of evidence the importance of truth. Importance of transparency. Will i have become obviously so the boogeyman for the far extreme crazy theories that people have a you know i don't like it At particularly don't like it affects my family. They didn't ask for this but they got it. Great thank goodness. I have a phenomenal. We supported family. But my job and your job you know. We went to medical school my job. Same thing you know. We're we're in our job. Is su su preserved the health and the safety of the people that we devoted our careers. So and once i keep my eye on that ball abu the other stuff is a bunch of junk nonsense. You know they throw all the swing they want you stick with the truth you stick with your integrity is sick with your honesty and all that other stuff sooner or later is going to go away. It's painful while they're painting these terrible pictures of you but at the end of the day the truth prevail though. I just focused on my job. My job is public health and science and medicine. And that's what i do. I really appreciate that. You've had now a couple of very public conversations written into the the senatorial record with somebody else went to med school and that senator rand paul and i want to ask you. What's it like debating. Someone who you know knows better but chooses to politicize to a particular base on purpose. i mean. obviously we've seen your frustration but what's that like firsthand and how does it make you feel about the future. Well i know. I worry less about myself do when i do about the country when run can at so many different levels even the level of the senate of the united states to propagate nonsense it is it is feigned for i have a phenomenal degree of respect for the united states government all the elements including the augusta body of the senate. I don't take any great pleasure. In having that kind of a conversation with senator ball but there's no way i'm gonna let him get away with that in the sense of just propagating nonsense out there you know in in you know. I don't like that. Because i don't i'm a person who's very respectful of institutions. And it hurts me more to have to do that when the fact that he's doing it you know. I wish i didn't have pushed back like that but have we appreciate you for doing it. We appreciate you for sticking with your principles and the truth and the science grateful that we have public servants. Like you out there fighting this pandemic on our behalf that dr anti-fouling man who needs no introduction but really grateful for having you on the pot thank you again thanks again. Thank you for having me take care as usual. Here's what i'm watching right now. This is a guy who ran for president saying he was going to quote. Shut down the virus. And what does he done. He's imported more virus from around the world by having a wide open southern border. His solution is he wants to have. The government forced kindergarteners to wear masks in school. That was florida governor. Run to santa's throwing red meat to is based and putting the lives of florida's children on the line at issue here is get this a ban on school mask mandates in violation of cdc guidelines. Right as millions of children go back to school. This is particularly galling. Because of this right now the us is averaging more than one hundred nine thousand new cases each day nearly one in five of those infected is a child in some places. I see us our full even pediatric covert beds children. Many of whom simply can't be vaccinated now account for nearly twenty percent of all new cases of covert nineteen as children. Go back to school. They're facing the perfect storm with delta and crowding banning from requiring masks is simply inviting serious outbreaks the other group of folks at particular risk with delta or the immuno-compromised last week the fda announced this the fda is expected to authorize a third booster shot for immuno-compromised people. It's critical that we offer more protection for people who are immuno-compromised. Those eligible for these boosters comprise only a small fraction of the population. Those who need the most for the rest those with functioning immune systems. I really don't believe there's a need for a booster that and it's still far more important to get unvaccinated people in the rest of the world vaccinated before we offer doses to people who are vaccinated here at home given new data that shows that three doses may offer protection for folks who are immuno-compromised. I think this is an important step now if the fda could get full authorization for these vaccines we'd be in really good shape. Finally in addition to passing the bipartisan infrastructure. Package the senate approved the framework for a three point. Five trillion dollar budget reconciliation package. That package could fundamentally change medicare as we know it. Including lowering the medicare age. This is a big deal like a very big deal. Most obviously it would guarantee healthcare for twenty million americans. It's also good politics. Two in three americans agree with lowering the medicare age. That said it's important to understand why the majority of democrats support lowering the medicare age. Even if they don't support medicare for all as medicare stance. Today seniors cannot for one of two medicare options standard medicare or what they call medicare quote unquote advantage. Advantage is a privately managed version of medicare that pays insurance companies to manage medicare patients usually cherry pick the healthiest patients. Whom they offer a few extra perks. But every dollar those healthier patients don't spend in healthcare. The insurance companies get to keep in profit. The health insurance lobby is extremely powerful. In fact they spent one hundred fifty million dollars lobbying last year alone in the middle of a pandemic and the realizing that including people between sixty and sixty four means more and healthier people that they can offer medicare advantage products to and more money in the bank. Look i deeply support. Lowering the medicare age. But i want us all to be clear eyed about. What's at play here. That's it for today on our way. I'll i want to hear from you. I hear a lot from the anti-science trolls who like to troll our podcast. So do me a favor and respond rate in review our show. Let us know what you think about our podcast. 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"anthony fauci" Discussed on America Dissected with Abdul El-Sayed
"You get a breakthrough infection. Unlike the alpha variant from six months ago the level of virus in your nasal firings with the delta is high enough that even if you're vaccinated anina nina few very few or no symptoms. Were still capable of transmitting. It somebody else so then all of a sudden you to explain to the public. Something that's complicated. You wouldn't expect them to immediately figured out that there's a separation now between the protection against getting sick. Which is really what the vaccine is supposed to do. It's supposed to protect you from getting sick that there's now a separation because it doesn't protect you necessary as well from getting infected even though you're infection may be without symptoms or it may be minimally sent them but you can't transmit it somebody else now. How probable likely that is to be honest with you. Do we don't know yet. We don't know it so recent this realization of the fact that you can transmit it even if you have protected yourself from disease so we're trying to figure that out so in that context what the recommendation is well. If we're not sure about that you need to tech the vulnerable so even though the vaccine protects you find forgetting seriously ill. You're saying wait a minute. If i'm in a situation in a high or substantial level of infection in i'm indoors. And i get infected. I may not know it. And then i might go home and inadvertently affect children infect someone who's elderlies may or not be vaccinated someone who has an underlying condition that even if they vaccinated did not work protected so in order to really doubling protect. Not only you from getting infected. But you from transmitting it to someone else. That's where the masking indoors committed. When people say that well why should i get vaccinated if after we're amass while the reason to get vaccinated is not just to keep you free from wearing masks. It's to prevent you from getting seriously ill and dying because you look at the number of debts that have a car overwhelmingly ninety nine percent of the debts or among unvaccinated depot. So you can't say well wait a minute. Why should i get vaccinated. If under certain circumstances i still have to wear masks will look at the six hundred thousand people who've died because they were unvaccinated. That's the reason you want to get vaccinated. Not for the freedom of that wearing amass. The goal here is not the joined one of those six hundred fifteen thousand people. I guess my question then in you know this better than me is that public understanding is a real challenge when it comes to baseline science. And so do you feel like the cdc might have jumped the gun when they initially allowed vaccinated people to go without masks guidelines. Well legis at do. They jumped the gun. But if you put yourself in their position back then lay did not fully realize at the time they knew that delta was a you know really a very aggressive iris. They didn't fully realize at the time since they were still. We were really doing a great job. In vaccinating people that by the time we got the summer and we would hopefully have vaccinated most of the people that wouldn't be spread by vaccinated people. So you could always say. Yes if i knew then or if the cdc knew then what they do now. It probably wouldn't have quote jumped the gun. Yeah so is it. Jumping the gun. When you don't know the data you know it gets tricky gets sick and the other thing. That is really really detrimental. Obdulio is the is the amount of this information and misinformation. There is on the social media and by people who have other agendas. Who have these political motivations that are really getting in the way of a really good unified public health response. There's no room for that kind of stuff when you're dealing with a very serious pandemic that's causing the lives and suffering. But it's happening. Unfortunately i i certainly you know one of the interesting pieces as public health. People is that early on the pandemic through the first year. We all watched as basic public. Health was set aside and thought that technology in the form of these vaccines was going to finally allow us to get a handle on the pandemic. And what's happened. Is that the public. Trust that was undercutting basic public. Health has also undercut the lack of public. Trust is also undercut our capacity to get vaccines out there. A lot of this driven by the capacity for social media to to accelerate disinformation misinformation. I wanted to ask one more. Follow up around around the new guidance because so much of the hope was in in the idea of herd immunity the notion that if enough people are vaccinated or otherwise naturally immune that you could stop the spread of the virus because enough people around you could not pass it on to you but given the new evidence suggests that vaccinated people can in fact cannon fact pass along the virus. What does that mean for the way we even think about herd immunity when it comes to delta and therefore covered nineteen general. You know great question. It means when you have a virus as transmissible as mutation of prone as this you gotta get the overwhelming proportion of.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on The Daily
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"anthony fauci" Discussed on The Daily
"There's nothing there. I always keep an open mind. I feel as do the overwhelming majority of scientists who have knowledge of viral and knowledge of evolutionary biology. That the most likely explanation for this is a natural leap from an animal reservoir. We human as not exactly right exactly. So what is the biden administration now doing because it will require investigation. Well you know. I'm really not sure karaoke exactly to be quite honest with you. I don't know exactly. What the nature of that intelligence because the president of the zastava intelligence community to look into this and giving them ninety days to come back with information. I mean it's important. i support. What the president's done and we all do because we all wanna find out really what the origins were but again i get back to saying if you talk to the scientists with knowledge about viruses. 'cause we hear a lot of people making statements that are really could completely debunked well. There's a lot of expert virologists on twitter teasing. But but there's some reputable scientist including epidemiology like dr ralf barak dr mark lips inch Seem to think it's possible at original elaborate least. They think the theory is were checking out. Which is what you're saying here. But what makes you think the lab leak. Theory is improbable. Your if you look at the history of how viruses evolve. Look at sars cov. One look at mayors look at he bola. We still haven't found the natural source of ebola. And that's been since nineteen seventy six. So this is what happens. Look at influenza. Look at bird flu. H five n one eight seven and nine that jump species this is a very very natural thing and if you look at the virus itself again i'm not an evolutionary virologists but those who are look at the virus and they say it's absolutely totally compatible with something that evolved from viruses because of the closeness to we. Don't have that extra link that's come in but there's nothing they see in there that makes you think it was something that came from a lab so support the investigation into this correct. You know. I think we should definitely try. Indeed have said that as a scientist i have always kept an open mind about things until they were definitively proven so if an investigation gets us closer to that i certainly am in favor of that. The one thing that i feel we need to do. We've been to make sure that any investigation includes people who have real scientific knowledge about this and get the political aspects out of it in also there needs to be a combination of diplomacy together with scientific investigation together with. I guess i would call forensics together because if you go in an accusatory way and you will put the chinese off even more than they are right now particularly forthcoming on lots of issues. I mean even when they're not hiding they act that way. I mean if you look at the first sars in.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on The Daily
"Dr anthony fauci conducted by my colleague opinion. Columnist cara swisher on her podcast sway in the conversation keira asks fao g about the politicization of the pandemic response. The potential origins of the virus and the content of cheese newly released emails including an exchange with the ceo of facebook mark zuckerberg take a listen. You i'm cara swisher and you're listening to sway in the past year and a half. Dr anthony fauci has become a hero to some including the owners of deli in my neighborhood that sells a cocktail called the fao cheap ouchi but.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton
"You mentioned earlier that you've been under quite a bit of personal attack for talking about things that should be. I would argue like fairly noncontroversial like the importance of vaccines vaccinations. And we know that. So many of our public health officials have been under inordinate stress working day after day without rest. Try to help protect public health over the last year and a half and we know that many public health officials have also received new horrific abuse in the mental health. Toll has been really immense. What do you think we need to do to try to help support. Everyone who's really been on the front lines to recover from this horrifically stressful time is. Hopefully we recover as a country. Yeah well you appointing out something that i think everyone hopefully will ultimately recognizes the extraordinary courage an effort that has been put in by frontline healthcare workers. I mean they truly are and heroines of this. The physical risk that they took are taking to take care of people the physical and mental strain of seeing people every single day. Dying right in front of you with very little that you can do particularly when you're dealing with people who have underlying conditions in which when they get hospitalized they're very very difficult straits. It's a reality. We've lost close to five hundred and ninety thousand people in this country. That's terrible for the losses of those people in their families. But what people. Don't appreciate. Because i've been there i've been there and i know it would. It means the terrible strain stress. When you try your best to save someone's life and they just lose you lose them person. If the person who the person we've got to pay attention to the stress and probably a good degree of post traumatic stress that those people laugh. So i think attention to mental health issues is something we absolutely have a responsibility to do for people who've given it everything and yet have exhausted themselves in the process dr fauci. I wanna be respectful of your time. I also want to end on a optimistic note. We spoke earlier about how the cove nineteen vaccines were accelerated through. Just extraordinary amounts of attention and investment and collaboration really across the globe in so i just am curious. What else that is being worked on currently at the nih do you think is close to a breakthrough in that could similarly really help save and protect a lot of lives soon. Yeah and it's in multiple fields of medicine not just infectious disease. But one of the things that we're having a lot of optimism now you know we've done spectacularly well into development of life-saving drugs for persons living with hiv to the point. Now if you're infected you get put on one pill that contains three drugs and you can go. Essentially lead up almost a normal lifespan. So we've done well there. The thing that has been the challenge is a vaccine for hiv. But i believe some of the technologies that have been developed and shown to be highly successful like the are a vaccine platform technology for covid nineteen is now being actively pursued in the field of hiv and in other areas of medicine including cancer and other infectious diseases. That's what i think is perched for breakthroughs also when the field of immunotherapy for cancer i mean the more we learn about how we can control regulation of the immune system. They're going to be kansas. That have been beyond the reach of cures. That likely will now for the first time. See that you can actually marshall the immune system's response cancer immunotherapy has been in some areas quite successful but in some areas still very frustrating. I think you're gonna see a lot of that. Frustration turn to good results within a reasonable period of time. So there's never been a time more exciting in the field by medical research than now and that's the reason why we are so grateful for the support that we continue to get from the congress and from multiple administrations because it certainly has given us an extraordinary tool for covid nineteen if it were not for that we would be in much much more dire straits than we are right now with regard to this pandemic thank you so much for your leadership and for your time today for giving me thinks to be optimistic about but also of course thanks to still worry about and work on so thank you so very much. Thank you very much chelsea appreciate you happen to be on your show. Thank you dr anthony. Fauci is the director of the national institute of allergy and infectious diseases at the us national institutes of health or the nih. if you're not yet vaccinated go to vaccines dot gov to find a vaccine site near you and anyone can visit. We can do this. Dot h s dot gov to join in a month of action. Help get as many people. Max needed as possible in volunteers. Even if you're vaccinated who take at least five. Actions may be invited to the white house in july and as we reflect on what our country's been through what keep listening to scientists and experts like dr genus team. Let's keep asking hard important questions so that we can learn from what's worked. And what has it so. We are better prepared for the inevitable next time and to any of our listeners. Who have been on the front lines of this crisis as a nurse doctor researcher or anyone else in the world of public health. Thank you our country owes you a huge debt of gratitude. And i hope that you are taking care of your own health to is it. And mentally.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton
"I was honored to welcome to the podcast. Dr fauci it's become almost a cliche to say this is an unprecedented time. And i'm just curious given that you have lived through other pandemics worked in other pandemics. How much of. This feels unprecedented. And how much of. It feels eerily familiar. Well chelsea the only eerily familiar thing about it is the unpredictable nature of outbreaks. Where you just going along. And then all of a sudden something comes up it could be subtle the way. Hiv this month. In the next few days where commemorating the fortieth anniversary of the realization that we were dealing with a new syndrome. We didn't know what the microbe the pathogen was. We didn't even have a name for it back in june and july of nineteen eighty one having had. I guess i would call it the privilege in some respects but also the painfully experience of being involved in that from the very first day. That's sort of snuck up on you. It was low level below the radar screen. Then as we learn more about it we found out dealing with just the tip of the iceberg when we saw people who were very very sick not knowing until we had a test that we're dealing with something where they were literally millions of people infected so the fact that outbreaks are unpredictable. They come in strange ways. That's the common denominator. The difference with this that validates the statement. it's unprecedented. is that when you're dealing with something as explosive as this which has a couple of characteristics that. I have often referred to almost ironically years ago. What is your worst nightmare. Dr fauci people would ask me that five years ago. Ten years ago fifteen years ago. And longer i would always say it was. The emergence of a new virus generally jumping species from an animal host to a human that had two characteristics one that is extraordinarily efficient in spreading from human to human and two that it has the capability of a great degree of morbidity mortality. When you put those two things together. That's when you get my worst nightmare and that's exactly what we're experienced because we have not had anything like this in well over one hundred years since the historic influenza pandemic of nineteen eighteen so there is a very strong true element of this being unprecedented. At least in over one hundred years and dr fauci there's an adage in public health that are notable epidemics aren't now with the benefit of both hindsight and your decades of experience in pandemics. What do you think we could have done differently in january or february to help save american lives and save lives across the globe in some respects. It is not answerable because you could certainly have done things differently. If you new things differently so you can say to yourself in this country. What could we have done if we knew back in january what we know right now is the characteristics that i'm telling me would ability to efficiently spread from human to human the fact that fifty to sixty percent of the transmissions occur from someone who is infected but has no symptoms at all. We know anywhere from a third to forty percent of the people who get infected never develop any significant symptoms at all that would bring attention to any medical intervention so back then if we knew that we were dealing with in this country something as extraordinary as this in its ability to spread. We would have done something. That likely would have not been acceptable to the american public. Like when we had the first case in. i think it was january. Twenty first to say okay. It's here and then a few days later a week or two later it became clear that there was community. Spread it just air which means someone infected someone and you don't have the chain of transmission locked in. You don't know where the person got it from that. Being the case that means it's spreading in society beneath the radar screen if we had known its capability of spreading. We could have said. Let's shut the country down right now to prevent it. I think there would have been such extraordinary pushback to say. Well wait a minute what are you talking about. We have one or two cases you want to shut the country down. That's crazy so when you ask me a question what could we have done differently. Well now that we have five hundred ninety thousand deaths you go back and say well look what this has done. We may be could have prevented some of those really shutdown early and prevented the spread. But you know if you look. Throughout the world chelsea even countries that appear to have done well early on every country has gotten hit really badly even some of the asian countries now that we pointed to as models of their response are now starting to get into trouble including places like taiwan and singapore and yet nam and places like that who seemed to have done very well in the first waves. You made a comment that resonates with me is. How do you prevent an outbreak from becoming a pandemic. so. I don't think we're necessarily going to be able to prevent the emergence of new microbes. They've occurred historically for as long as before history even recorded it. History is full of them. But in answer to your question how do you prevent that from becoming a pandemic. and that's what we talk about lessons learned. What can we learn having gone through this. Where the united states was ranked by public health agencies as being the best prepared country in the world for pandemic and we got hit among the top three with brazil and india as the three worst in the sense of numbers of cases. And and dr batniji think that that is because we were prepared for previous pandemics in not future wanting. Where are we ready to fight the last war. Not the next war. I think it's partially that not completely. I think it was. There were things that went wrong early on in. That was the issue with the testing that we didn't have a testing system for a considerable period of time. And we were testing only symptomatic people. Because we're not fully aware that a symptomatic spread was really really very important so those are the things that i think could have been done differently. And then don't want to relitigate what went on last year but there are things that i think could have been done better. Although i live in new york now i grew up in arkansas and then moved when i was twelve to dc and it is heartbreaking to me. Dr fauci that arkansas louisiana tennessee mississippi so much of the south have vaccination rates. That are half of what we see in the northeast since you've had to communicate now over so many decades so many different public health challenges and also imperatives. How do you think we rebuild trust in science and especially trust in in vaccines vaccinations. That is something that is not going to happen easily chelsea. I think that we may have to find ways. And that's a complicated issue as you will know probably better than i do. It's a complicated issue of how you heal the differences and end the hostility. I mean i've been the object myself of a phenomenal amount of hostility. Merely because i'm promoting. What really fundamental simple public health principles that seems astounding that that would generate a considerable degree of hostility. But it is it is so. I don't think the answer is intensifying the hostility and pointing figures. I think the approaches to outreach to try and understand each other better and realized that we have differences but those differences should be the source of strength in some respects and not the source of chaos. So i don. I don't know the answer to your question is if it's a seemingly simple question with a complicated answer we've got to reach out to people and get them to understand that this is for their own safety their own health and also what i referred to as communal responsibility your responsibility to society because there is a thing called the chain of transmission of an outbreak and one of the very interesting and i must say quite unique aspects of sauce covy to in covid nineteen. Is that the same virus that has killed. Almost six hundred thousand americans makes many. Many people have no symptoms at all. Just doesn't bother them. I mean there's thirty forty percent of the people get no symptoms at all so that is in many respects on unprecedented to have that situation usually when you have something as potentially deadly as this it makes just about everybody a little bit sick. This is something where there are people who are saying why should i get vaccinated the chances of my getting into trouble of very very low. And they're correct if you look at the rate of hospitalizations of young people. It's zero it's small compared to the rate among elderly people and among people with underlying conditions. But there are a couple of things there that people don't fully understand you're not completely exempt because a lot of young people wind up getting into trouble statistically not nearly as many as the elderly and those with the line conditions but there's another aspect of it let's say you get infected and you don't get any symptoms at all and you say see. I got infected big deal. What's the difference the differences that it is conceivable and maybe likely that even though you got no symptoms that you would inadvertently an innocent. I'll use that word. pass it on to someone else. Who would then pass it on to someone else who would then get a serious consequence so there is a degree that have to consider of. What is my societal responsibility of. Not being part of the chain of transmission as opposed to being a dead end for the virus. So do you wanna be a dead end for the virus or do you want to be a situation where you're part of the transmission chain which would get other people in trouble but that's tough to get that concept across dr fauci. I never thought. I would say i wanted to be a dead end but yes here. I am like very happy to be fully vaccinated in a in a dead end. We'll be right back. Stay with us at children's national hospital. Everything we do is just for kids are top. Rank specialists are here for kids of all ages from babies who need help before they're even born to teens and young adults are pediatric work to diagnose problems quickly and thoroughly and use treatments designed exclusively for growing children with convenient locations. All across the dc metro area. Find a specialist. Today at children's national dot org slash stronger. Any college can make you on paper at penn college. We're more into looking good on steel and looking good on x-rays with looking good and code building and rebuilding vision and revisions and when it's all said and done you'll look good to everyone because the past might be written on paper but the future will be made by hand. Learn more at p. c. t. dot edu. I do want to ask about preparedness. Because i think probably a lot of people are now as we are vaccinating the country. I know a lot of people wanna put cove in the rear view mirror. Leave it in twenty twenty one not worry about it again but we know that the virus is not done with us until we have everyone vaccinated and we know. We need to learn lessons from this to help. Better prepare us going forward. So what lessons do you think we need to learn. And how do you think your work. The nih has to adapt. How do you think the biden administration has to adapt what concrete things have to happen to ensure we are better prepared for the inevitable next time. Okay so two components to my answer chelsea. The first is that when you're dealing with a global pandemic you have to have a global response. We're not gonna be safe on this planet until the pandemic is controlled globally. So right away. It is not necessarily a lesson but almost a mandate that we really need to help the rest of the world as as a rich country. Get this under control because if there's still viral dynamics somewhere even if we get this on the very good control here there's always the danger of the generation variants which then would make our protection somewhat tenuous even with the vaccines. That's the first thing when you look at the future. What lessons learned for the future. We need to also prepare in a global way. There was a thing called the global health security network of the global health security agenda. Will you have into connectivity. Among countries of the world good modern up-to-date communications sharing reagents sharing of of specimens continued good collaboration and communication building up in the local areas. The public health infrastructure. That would allow them to respond in quench when it breaks out in any given country because it's generally don't start spontaneously in twenty-five countries they generally start as a jumping of species usually not always from an animal reservoir to a human and then it spreads to the rest of the world. That doesn't mean that you gotta blame the country where it happens. It just so happens but you've got to have those countries prepared to be able to contain it. So that's the thing with preparedness. The other thing from a scientific standpoint is that we are very fortunate that we have made decades and decades of investment in basic and clinical biomedical research. Which has allowed us to do something. That's unprecedented to get a vaccine in. Which a virus was first identified in january of twenty twenty and then in december of that same year. Eleven months later to be putting vaccine into people's arms. That's ninety four to ninety five percent efficacious. If we were having this conversation ten years ago you would've told me. I was completely crazy thinking that that would happen. It usually takes us in years and the speed was not because we were reckless in doing things. In cutting corners the speed was related to the extraordinary amount of investment that was made of the previous decades in clinical and basic research so there another component of lessons learned we need to continue to make the investments in research that will allow us to have the scientific component of the response be optimal and fortunately for us. That's what happened with regard to the vaccines dr brought to you. You mentioned earlier. The global health security agenda which while it had antecedents for many years really got codified in the aftermath of a bola and of the united states saying what has happened in western africa is clearly a tragedy for people there but it is a danger to us here too and we do need to have more robust public health architecture and there and then that wasn't a priority for the trump administration but it wasn't really a priority for the world. I do admittedly have a little bit of a concern that once we are through covid nineteen. I worry we might lose. Focus on the need to build robust global architecture to help protect public health everywhere will chelsea. I definitely share your. And the reason i do is from my experience in that corporate memory for things that have been very very difficult in. The sense of responding in preparing is often short lived. And when you put this behind us we will be dealing with problems. That are real and present yet. It's difficult to get people to understand that the threat of an outbreak is perpetually a real and present danger so what we've gotta do as globe as as a planet as a community of nations is to just make sure we tell ourselves that when we get this under control that we've gotta say never again and mean it and never again means to really put the effort into the kind of preparation that will require considerable resources and even though it's tough to convince people to give resources to something that isn't happening now we've got a call back the memory of to nineteen twenty twenty and twenty twenty one because we started off in the beginning of this podcast. The fact is that this is really what happened to us. It just came out of nowhere and it just immobilized us for such an extraordinary period of time in a second year now. The economy has been wrecked by. This is sure not only here in the united states. Thank goodness where recovering now. But it's still a lot of people out of work. I think those kinds of memories should spur assan to make sure we are adequately prepared next time around one hopefully will spur us on returning to comment that you made earlier that i am vigorous agreement with it. We have responsibility to help. Vaccinate the world. And while i certainly appreciate president biden's commitment to donate seventy million doses by july fourth. We know we can't effectively donate our way out of this. So i am curious. Dr fauci think about the architecture that we really need to help protect public health globally while often. The focus is on surveillance and specimen collecting testing. What do you think it should be for vaccine research and development for example or the actual ability to manufacturer and to guarantee the quality of vaccines in the next generation. I'm with you one hundred percent on that. And that is referring to building up the capacity and the ability to do technology transfer. So that when you have an outbreak. It isn't only companies in switzerland. The united states in the uk but you have plants and companies and technology and the knowledge to do it in senegal and ethiopia and south africa and indonesia and brazil and chile. So that when you have an outbreak you do have the capability and that is building up. Not only the infrastructure of public health to do surveillance and monitoring but also the ability to respond at a global level to rely on. Donations is a quick immediate partial. Fix but the real durable sustainable fix now in the future is to allow other countries that generally don't have that capacity to be able to make vaccine in a timely fashion and not depend completely on donations from the rich country. The rich countries should donate if they have to but the real ultimate solution is to have a world where it's evenly distributed with his equity in opportunity to make your own countermeasures. 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"anthony fauci" Discussed on In Fact with Chelsea Clinton
"Hiv aids pandemic. his research was crucial to understanding how the virus works and he was one of the leading architects of the president's. Emergency plan for aids relief or pet far. Which has helped saved millions of lives. Around the world. He's advised seven presidents on how to prevent diagnose and treat a long list of infectious diseases including hiv aids respiratory infections diarrheal diseases to bricusse malaria and zeka. He's been leading the government's efforts to combat. This pandemic working nonstop with his team and communicating consistently and honestly with americans every step of the way i was honored to welcome to the podcast. Dr fauci it's become almost a cliche to say this is an unprecedented time. And i'm just curious given that you have lived through other pandemics worked in other pandemics. How much of. This feels unprecedented. And how much of. It feels eerily familiar. Well chelsea the only eerily familiar thing about it is the unpredictable nature of outbreaks. Where you just going along. And then all of a sudden something comes up it could be subtle the way. Hiv this month. In the next few days where commemorating the fortieth anniversary of the realization that we were dealing with a new syndrome. We didn't know what the microbe the pathogen was. We didn't even have a name for it back in june and july of nineteen eighty one having had. I guess i would call it the privilege in some respects but also the painfully experience of being involved in that from the very first day. That's sort of snuck up on you. It was low level below the radar screen. Then as we learn more about it we found out dealing with just the tip of the iceberg when we saw people who were very very sick not knowing until we had a test that we're dealing with something where they were literally millions of people infected so the fact that outbreaks are unpredictable. They come in strange ways. That's the common denominator. The difference with this that validates the statement. it's unprecedented. is that when you're dealing with something as explosive as this which has a couple of characteristics that. I have often referred to almost ironically years ago. What is your worst nightmare. Dr fauci people would ask me that five years ago. Ten years ago fifteen years ago. And longer i would always say it was. The emergence of a new virus generally jumping species from an animal host to a human that had two characteristics one that is extraordinarily efficient in spreading from human to human and two that it has the capability of a great degree of morbidity mortality. When you put those two things together. That's when you get my worst nightmare and that's exactly what we're experienced because we have not had anything like this in well over one hundred years since the historic influenza pandemic of nineteen eighteen so there is a very strong true element of this being unprecedented. At least in over one hundred years and dr fauci there's an adage in public health that are notable epidemics aren't now with the benefit of both hindsight and your decades of experience in pandemics. What do you think we could have done differently in january or february to help save american lives and save lives across the globe in some respects. It is not answerable because you could certainly have done things differently. If you new things differently so you can say to yourself in this country. What could we have done if we knew back in january what we know right now is the characteristics that i'm telling me would ability to efficiently spread from human to human the fact that fifty to sixty percent of the transmissions occur from someone who is infected but has no symptoms at all. We know anywhere from a third to forty percent of the people who get infected never develop any significant symptoms at all that would bring attention to any medical intervention so back then if we knew that we were dealing with in this country something as extraordinary as this in its ability to spread. We would have done something. That likely would have not been acceptable to the american public. Like when we had the first case in. i think it was january. Twenty first to say okay. It's here and then a few days later a week or two later it became clear that there was community. Spread it just air which means someone infected someone and you don't have the chain of transmission locked in. You don't know where the person got it from that. Being the case that means it's spreading in society beneath the radar screen if we had known its capability of spreading. We could have said. Let's shut the country down right now to prevent it. I think there would have been such extraordinary pushback to say. Well wait a minute what are you talking about. We have one or two cases you want to shut the country down. That's crazy so when you ask me a question what could we have done differently. Well now that we have five hundred ninety thousand deaths you go back and say well look what this has done. We may be could have prevented some of those really shutdown early and prevented the spread. But you know if you look. Throughout the world chelsea even countries that appear to have done well early on every country has gotten hit really badly even some of the asian countries now that we pointed to as models of their response are now starting to get into trouble including places like taiwan and singapore and yet nam and places like that who seemed to have done very well in the first waves. You made a comment that resonates with me is. How do you prevent an outbreak from becoming a pandemic. so. I don't think we're necessarily going to be able to prevent the emergence of new microbes. They've occurred historically for as long as before history even recorded it. History is full of them. But in answer to your question how do you prevent that from becoming a pandemic. and that's what we talk about lessons learned. What can we learn having gone through this. Where the united states was ranked by public health agencies as being the best prepared country in the world for pandemic and we got hit among the top three with brazil and india as the three worst in the sense of numbers of cases. And and dr batniji think that that is because we were prepared for previous pandemics in not future wanting. Where are we ready to fight the last war. Not the next war. I think it's partially that not completely. I think it was. There were things that went wrong early on in. That was the issue with the testing that we didn't have a testing system for a considerable period of time. And we were testing only symptomatic people. Because we're not fully aware that a symptomatic spread was really really very important so those are the things that i think could have been done differently. And then don't want to relitigate what went on last year but there are things that i think could have been done better. Although i live in new york now i grew up in arkansas and then moved when i was twelve to dc and it is heartbreaking to me. Dr fauci that arkansas louisiana tennessee mississippi so much of the south have vaccination rates. That are half of what we see in the northeast since you've had to communicate now over so many decades so many different public health challenges and also imperatives. How do you think we rebuild trust in science and especially trust.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on The Editors
"Once again editors. Please check it out. So charlie. We have another jobs. Report here came out this morning reporting. We're recording early friday afternoon another miss not as spectacularly disappointing as last month's job report. But what do you make of it. That's a good description. It's not ass disappointing. But it is still disappointing. Missed by over one hundred thousand if you combine it with the previous one and we are in much much worse position than was expected and much much worse position than the biden administration would have given. It spent one point nine trillion dollars and expected this to help kick start the economy. My view on this is that most of that money was wasted that the enhanced unemployment benefits in that law who counterproductive thankfully a huge number now of republican governors and state legislatures are rejecting the money or repurposing it and it would be a disaster if the biden administration would to look at the slow rate of growth and the continuing problems with employment.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on The Editors
"This is eddie is a bit and one of his stand up shows where he talks about how people who work for the secret service or bodyguards. They look so cool suits and the concealed weapons in their earpieces until something happens and then the running around and grabbed the guy by the hat falling over in the street looking obsessively twitching. And i think these emails give us a similar insight into the highest echelons of our government and our agencies in they show chaos in the best case. Here is that. Anthony fauci was responding to really difficult situation and drinking from a fire hose. But as michael seddon michael noted in his good piece on this. He's all over the place and certain topics. Mosques is one of those topics he contradicts himself. He pretends he didn't say what he said before. He gives the impression of somebody who's trying to balance the scientific with the political. This is a long standing criticism off him. Ramesh wrote to magazine piece about anthony fauci in which he advanced this criticism as well that fout she at times has been unable to play the role that he is supposed to play which is to give a very logical opinion and then feed that into the normal political process and has instead tried to second guess what people will buy how his words will be received and what behaviors they will prompt which is not his job and the emails show him doing that on mosques and on more. I don't think there is anything conclusive on the question of the origin of corona virus. Cetinje no smoking gun there. And i'm not entirely sure would expect there to be but certainly there is more in there. That would suggest the lab leak theory van. Anyone within the press was encouraged to discuss or debate or bat around until a foul two weeks ago. My read on these emails is that they show why we should have a role in society for experts but not elevate them to high not privilege them and not put them on a pedestal because they are like almost anyone else when it comes down to it so michael elsa had this vanity fair piece which is really impressive. i don't know how many thousands of words it is but it's it's long and it says was was the fruit of months of investigation which which shows and they're couple episodes that really stand out It one which is there were folks within a bureau. The state department that wanted to investigate whether the virus had originated in the wuhan stew for virology. And we're told by folks in another bureau. Don't do that anna worms stay away and then there's also someone who was saying whatever you do don't bring up the government's role and funding gain of function research. Yeah i mean this this. It's interesting that in the past couple months about from january in this year onward basically trump was out of office. We've had articles in new york magazine by nicholson baker. We've had the big nicholas wade piece that he released on medium Now this and this is more You know nicholas wade looked into the virus itself and the the kind of evidence that you would look for pandemics in the natural world the vanity fair piece fits in another layer which is looking much more specifically at what government and institutional people were doing why they were doing it. What their rationale was. And you know it relies partly on a group of dissenting scientists. All across the world who started organizing their own research with each other on the lab league theory going back right to the beginning and You know that these these people who are collaborating over the internet mostly Although it seemed like they had a center of gravity in paris these are not people you can dismiss as political hacks And what you find is. Yeah the state department Is worried about the can of worms. You find the world health organization you know. Basically almost fully setting up an investigation. That would have been a whitewash of of the role of the chinese government and chinese institutions. Like the virology institute but then even Tedros who heads the world health organization and his himself like a an african communist and has been a puppet of china many issues throughout the pandemic. even he couldn't bring himself to rule out any theory When this investigation was completed No it's it's it's a fascinating piece. But it also gets at how the Manufactured and false consensus against the lab leak theory and for natural emergence last year. I created a huge taboo in the scientific community and among journalists and also among government officials Across the us government in particular that itself may obscure forever. The real answer here right. Because we're losing day-by-day critical access to information that that could could really give you a clue whether this definitively emerged from the lab or not But we are seeing as this As this become safe to say in the mainstream we are seeing anthony fauci. Who's always willing to speak safely from the mainstream start to say. Oh we need to demand. The records from the wuhan institute of viral aji So it's this is all moving very Quickly the other one last thing The other thing that's notable in this article is it. It very much lays out something. I've tried to put in some of my pieces on this. Which is why does it matter. Will it matters because if this was a manmade disaster it's the worst manmade disaster in history and just like the nuclear industry before it you would have the the industry of biology across universities and publicly funded labs across the world would be under the most intense spotlight and they would be subject to regulation from from outside of science itself right because it would be clear that trusting scientists to self regulate. This extremely dangerous research was a mistake because they have too much confidence in themselves and their And to too much of a conflict of interest because of the sources for the funding are so few. And far between i mean. Nih funds thirty two billion dollars of american biology and that's down to the the level of funding the salaries of your average biology professor at any american college Who has to win their salary in grants so there is a kind of omerta that has to be broken and i think that piece really shows why i think you you were mentioning to me. One of our colleagues were saying at the very least one of those of the this whole episode should be that you don't go and find no bat viruses and some remote cave somewhere and then bring them into the city center of a bustling populous place with people doing research on said bat viruses just walking out the door of the lab and and If if they get sick. God forbid instantly you're gonna have a pandemic overtaking that city and overtaking the world which is potentially what we saw here.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on The Editors
"Part of your feed at industry may should services out there from spotify I tunes and you like what you please consider giving us a glowing five star review on itunes. If you don't like what you hear here please forget. I said anything. So m beatty. We got more action on anthony. Fauci and the lab theory fronts. We have vouch. E e mails released. Some people thought there Some smoking guns in there you had a more modulated take that you wrote up for the website and then we had this vanity fair piece which will talk about more in a minute but what are your takeaways from the emails so the emails are now i mean i call them a little bit of a war shock test Because i i think they contain some damning information or little revelations about fao cheese attitudes and prejudices that i think have been unhelpful During this pandemic but others saw a man. Who's just kind of trying to coordinate a flood of inquiries coming into him and information on the lab leak theory. I mean clearly. Their email show. This was something that had popped up very early. on fallacies radar He and francis collins refer to it as a conspiracy that's gaining steam and they seem to want to take their communication about it off of email. Which can be foyer and into phone calls. Which can't but you know you would perhaps for totally innocent reasons. Want to see a conspiracy theory if you believed it to be such Defeated and stomped out. Especially if it was casting you or your enterprise or science itself as a villain. So i don't find when when they're talking conspiracy theory. Do they mean the lab leak when the conspiracy theory. So they i think they used the words conspiracy theory both in in both instances one for zero hedge article that it was about bio weapons research and another that It was just Lab engineered With hiv is in into a corona virus So the us that in both terms and there is one conversation where that one email that is kind of spooky to read which is a series of emails. Were one scientists outside of the government says. Hey we have some signs here that this could be human engineered and then within a few hours fao. She sends an email to another staffer. Saying like you're going to have let's get on the phone immediately You're going to have some tasks to do today. And it's not clear what it is right and so it's it's it's And at the same time. He's receiving emails from doctor. Who runs this outfit called ego health. Alliance that Is a huge proponent of gain of function research and das- acc-. I mean if you put aside anthony fauci for a second. I think it's indisputable that dazzle has been a dishonest player In these debates right that he organized a statement in which he tried to even hide his own involvement trying to clear the lab that he was the cutout for in america he would receive funding from nih and then pass it on in sub grants to wuhan And his the letter. He organized his scientific gobbledygook. It's not a lot of scientists. Just don't credit at all for being remotely plausible as an explanation for the origin of the virus. So there and you see. He's directing nicely with him and But i think overall you get a couple of things that Get a couple of themes in foul cheese emails. That i think are open to serious interrogation. now which is go ahead. Which is He's very dismissive of store. Bought cloth masks at the very beginning of the pandemic Explains why they would be useless for virus particularly in aerosols. You see him slowly. Come around to a very like week. Acceptance of maybe As the pandemic is more widespread there could be some utility But you just don't see anything that lines up with what he was. Publicly saying about masks In march and april last year as he kind of embraced them Particularly you don't see any proof that he was deliberately trying to protect the supply. What you see is his honest view that they Store-bought masks are mostly useless I think all opponent who saying well kind of the best. Best interpretation of a mask question to vote for foul g is that he didn't think they're gonna make a huge difference but they might make a difference in the margins of With someone who's infected and didn't know it to stop them from from sped spreading the viruses quickly to others and then that also just using it as a general precautionary measure to make everyone he thinking about the virus And there's other things too. I mean he is I'm a bit out on a limb on this one for now. I don't think for very long but Fao ci consistently dismissed downplayed the use of cheap and available antivirals as a treatment for covid nineteen. You see scientists arguing with them and getting very angry at his statements And kind of trying to show off their research in israel and other countries An all the while vouchers promoting rim desert which turned out to not work very well at all And is about a thousand times more expensive than alternatives on hand. And you know so anyway. There's there's a couple of these themes there's no smoking gun and this these there's lots of redacted material and in some of the key emails But i i felt it didn't look good and it had lots of fodder for people who are already predisposed not to like anthony fauci But on the other hand like You know he's not cursing people out he he he sometimes Refuses to indulge the press in anti trump talking points You know so it's a. It's a mixed picture..
"anthony fauci" Discussed on WSJ Opinion: Potomac Watch
"Says points out that the kind of mask you. Buying a drugstore quote is not really effective in keeping out virus which is small enough to pass through the material end quote so his original judgement and the reason he said. Don't wear masks is. That's what the science showed and then somewhere along the line Some scientists suggest this would help and it became this. You know symbol of whether or not you were helping with the virus effort and he got on board And even today we don't have really any good scientific evidence that it really helps especially with an arrow sliced Virus but he kind of went along with that and we can see here as you said that. He was changing his position to make himself look better and try to to to justify some decisions. That really couldn't be justified development on this front. This week has been this this vanity fair story which is a long investigation into the lab hypothesis. And really why it took the government so long to acknowledge it and a few points. I would draw out here. One is it cites. A memo written by a former acting assistant secretary of the state department Who wrote that. His team was warned not to pursue investigation of the origin of covid nineteen. Because it would quote open a can of worms if continued There's also a at some some quotes from matthew pottinger. The former deputy national security adviser who says to interesting things that i that i found interesting at least one of them is that pottenger sort of blames trump for some of this in that trump was publicly saying that he had seen evidence before seen evidence that the virus came out of the lab Before apparently reportedly that evidence was really there and so pottenger says that that seemed to cause a quote antibody response unquote within the government. And then the second thing is he. He says that so many of the experts in this field have ties of some kind to this gain of function research That those conflicts quote play a profound role in muddying the waters in contaminating the shot at having an impartial inquiry unquote so bill. I mean it seems to me that these are questions that maybe we need congress and some sort of investigation to answer because It seems like there are a lot of conflicts and a lot of a lot of reasons. that the everybody was sort of hoping that the lab hypothesis was it what it would turn out to be. Yeah i think in the case of the vanity fair piece you mentioned. I too found that really fascinating. There were not only people hoping that they wouldn't find things but actively trying to shut down the investigation. I mean one of the other stories is that you know a secretary of state. Mike pompeo was pushing this investigation but he was fought by people in his own department about this and they some of them may have just believed. This's this is a cookie theory. There's nothing there but others that line. I think it was in the vanity fair about you. Know if we have investigation could open a can of worms suggested. Some people. don't have good answers for what we might find out. I think this is something for congress to look into the probably wait until they get the the the latest report from joe biden and i would add another thing to To judge the credibility of this new investigation will the biden team include members of the former team. That was investigating. I mean they've done some the legwork already or are they going to keep those people marginalize..
"anthony fauci" Discussed on KTLK 1130 AM
"Specialist Dr Anthony Fauci is testifying on Capitol Hill along with the heads of the CDC and FDA don't you telling lawmakers the virus responses federally supported state led and locally administered president trump speaking as he was heading out to Arizona one of the states having a surge in cases he's also been blasting attempts by protesters to set up a zone near the White House which included a failed attempt to take down a presidential statue president trump tweeting there will never be an autonomous zone in Washington DC as long as I'm your president if they try they will be met with serious force between coming after a group of protesters last night attempted to pull down a statue of Andrew Jackson in Lafayette park across from the White House before being pushed back by police earlier the president tweeting that he's authorized the federal government to arrest anyone who vandalize his or destroys any monument statue or other such federal property in the U. S. with up to ten years in prison for the veterans memorial preservation act passes on decker Democrats are telling Republicans in the Senate there police reform proposals are not salvageable they don't go far enough in a letter obtained by AP signaling it may try to block the GOP bill from clearing a procedural hurdle tomorrow Republicans say the bill should be allowed to move to debate as a starting point Democrats say a new starting point should be negotiated wait where the powerful earthquake rattling southern and central Mexico magnitude seven point seven no word yet on damage America is listening to fox please reliable dependable matters to you we've got a your top local stories are on the Twin Cities news talk dot com Minnesota news network Jon J. W. **** police are investigating three shootings in north Minneapolis Monday were nine people were injured this comes after multiple shootings over the weekend against the backdrop of clamor to de fund the Minneapolis police mayor Jacob fry says the city is asking for more law enforcement to be involved in this effort including Hennepin county sheriff the state patrol and the FBI violence and lawlessness that we've seen over the last few days is not acceptable meanwhile speaking out for the first time since riots and protests following the death of George Floyd lieutenant Bob Kroll president of the Minneapolis police union told CBS this morning when you see the right as conditions that was a form of domestic terrorism well Minnesota health officials are encouraged with the downward trend in hospitalizations due to cope in nineteen at the same time they say they're concerned about a drop in overall emergency room usage including for things like heart attack and stroke Chris Ayers and with the Minnesota department of health says nationwide ER visits are down forty percent over the last ten weeks from the same time a year ago it suggests that patients with these conditions either could not access care or were avoiding seeking care people who are experiencing signs or symptoms of serious illness should seek immediate emergency care regardless of the pandemic according to Ayers man I'd like to drop the scene and seasonal flu cases there's no biological reason connected to the lock down that would lead to lower instances of other serious illnesses this hi John which go here owner of advance auto glass I'd like you to know that because of both safety issues and laws concerning cracked windshields advantage on the glass is considered essential we've been open the entire time and will continue to be in fact were fortunate enough to have stayed busy because customers now have time to do what they've been putting off for months getting that chipped or cracked windshield replaced because advantage on the glass is always had the technology to do any job remotely.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on CATS Roundtable
"Where the infection rate at one point was very high, and is now coming down. Unfortunately there are also some areas. Where the infections continue to go up, I think when you look at all of the country as a whole mainly putting everything together and getting the averages of it, certainly, the deaths clearly coming down. Hospitalizations are coming down the cases. Coming down, but less steeply it. It's a slow decline of going in the right direction, but it is I'd like to see. It'd be a little bit more sharply declined, but in general in general job going in the right direction. Dr what question so many lives but Louis. Everybody was saying by more ventilators by more ventilators. The death rate in some places was high as eighty percent. Of people put on ventilators. What say you about this? Well when you're sick, enough John. This. Division. He's taking care of a lot of very sick patients in my career. When you when you have a very serious disease. That requires integration. And Ventilation. That, is already a very very serious. Certainly eighty percent mortality. In people that go on ventilators is severe and higher. I believe than the average of pull in general for all diseases to go onto ventilators but this. Infection is so severe that by the time. You get to go on a ventilator that you are already very seriously ill, and that's the reason why I believe you're seeing very high. Death rates have been some reevaluation of that. Apparently, that is in some hospitals, but in others. The death rate is considerably lower. Than that eighty percent, but it's still. Unacceptably high, but that's because of the seriousness of the disease. In addition I have heard from some of my Kochta's my friends at does a lot of doctors that did not know how to use to ventilators properly at that probably record seventy problems. Yeah we! We have a minute left anything else who want to tell people well. You know I do I. WanNa just continue to encourage that we'd been through a lot. This will end if not something that's going to go on forever. He will end by how we response to it. We need to be responsible. Obviously, we all want to open up the country again and bring back some some semblance of normality. Get the economy going. We've got to do that. Delicate balance between moving forward in a careful way. You know heating the guidelines. So that we don't do something precipitously. Continue to push your head to trying to get back to normal at the same time that put all our efforts into trying to contain it alternately. Bring this outbreak down to a negligible level. Hopefully we're in the right direction. I believe we are. We just need to keep pushing. Dr Anthony FAUCI director of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the National Institute of Health. Thank you so much for calling into Sunday boarding? You're bringing the American people today. It could be with John Thank you for having me. This is the catch roundtable. We'll be right back..
"anthony fauci" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK
"Here Anthony Fauci ran into a rand Paul buzz saw of sorts today and and I agree with a lot of what you said I respect doctor felt she he has spent decades of his life he served six presidency save lives and and maybe even a lot of this is through no fault of his own but even on February twenty ninth he was telling us that the risk is low everybody got it wrong China lied to the world that's part of the equation then we have you know these print these models every one of these models have been wrong and I am you know I'm pretty disgusted by all of this and now we're trying to re open the country and do it safely and I think that your right in as much as when we write the history books here is that all these models all these predictions have been wrong and I think we have to now open the country safely my benchmark is well New York state open because the there are some people that didn't stop working providing all the medical equipment other people that stayed working in stocked all the shelves in every grocery store in the drug store stayed open senator and I saw the same people working there and I see in there now and they wore masks and they all seem to be okay with the mask you've had corona virus you know what this thing is like it's tough for a lot of people but can we open safely and and it but I think mass are a big part of the answer I think the main thing is that there are a lot of people are experts I don't you know doubted Cauchi is sincere and he wants what's best for the country but he's an extremely extremely cautious person and if we listen only to his voice will never open the schools and will never get moving again so we have to listen to a variety of experts that Neil Ferguson from from England turns out that he predicted two million deaths and his conservative estimate if they did all of the lockdown was and Willian desk where he was so wrong but guess what when they had mad cow disease a few years back he predicted a hundred and thirty six thousand deaths and a hundred people died so this is the kind of people are listening to everyone who calls himself an expert is not always right predicting the future is not easy and so when people so we have to close the school down my point the doctor felt she was well what is the mortality between zero and eighteen these kids in school it's virtually zero what was the mortality in New York between ages eighteen and forty five ten people died per one hundred thousand now does it get worse yeah you go up in the fifties sixties seventies eighties it gets a lot worse but it say exponential curve on the tail light life I gotta take a break but I think that's why what's that the governor to Santa's did so well because he targeted the elderly I will continue to follow senator rand Paul as always thank you for being with us we appreciate it and I will follow both these issues very closely protect your home this spring with term annex the triangles leader in pest and termite protection for over eighty years call the save ten percent off a custom pest or termite treatment plan with term annex for a limited time.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Us into Dr Anthony Fauci yesterday doctor felt she had a busy day he started his day off on CBS news face the nation well this is going to be a bad week Margaret unfortunately if you look at the projection of the curse of the kinetics of the Kurds we're going to continue to see an escalation also we should hope that within a week or maybe a little bit more we'll start to see a flattening out of the curve in coming down the mitigation that we're talking about that you just mentioned is absolutely key to the success of that so on the one hand things are going to get bad and we need to be prepared for that it is going to be shocking to some it certainly is is is is really disturbing to see that but that's what's going to happen before turns around so just buckle down continue to mitigate continue to do the physical separation because we got to get through this week that's coming up because it is going to be a bad week some good news and bad news there from doctor found G. I don't know what he's talking about the modeling again the models to some the White House models they've reviews like the one at the university of Washington beat with the projections in terms of hospitalizations and hospital beds needed in some of the states were way way way off by thousands good news coming out of New York over the weekend is that hospitalizations are down plummeted seventy five percent while discharges or way up and before we believe every single thing that Dr Anthony Fauci has to say let's remind everybody to do it's human at the same time this is a clip of the started to make its way around the web from January it's from January twenty first Dr Anthony Fauci was speaking to Greg Kelly on newsmax and was talking about the coronavirus bottom line we don't have to worry about this one right well you know obviously you need to take it seriously and do the kinds of things that the CDC and the department of homeland security are doing but this is not a major threat to the people in the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about Hannah was in January that's awful when I was a bad one it's hard to live that one down and that to me I I think is why he kind of over corrected and started referencing some of these models that said two million people dead two hundred and forty thousand people dead now the models are saying it's going to be more like eighty thousand people nationwide by August if you're looking at the models I I don't know if that's it you're you're sitting nationwide policy and lockdowns on some of these models that had these crazy numbers meanwhile over in China they're opening things back up they got the streets lined with people right now and this is the most China story I could possibly tell you so early on in this crisis when Italy saw that China was having some problems Italy donated a bunch of face masks face guard testing equipment they donated that to China to kind of help them along did not charge them a single dime well since then Italy have their own problems and it just escalated so Italy they thought China was back open for business they said Hey if you have any leftovers we would like to have them back China said sure and they made it really pay for it aw they charged me to buy back the stuff very donated to them in the first place China's fault because I'm so angry at China right now the fact that all this is going on is because of their incompetence Matt bear is standing by in the W. I. B. C. traffic center all right here where we're looking at a cellphone sixty nine up in Pendleton right now man this is the background sure okay I'm taking a look at it and I gently and then we're gonna put on W. white BC traffic here to second all travel lanes are blocked.
"anthony fauci" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Disease doctor Anthony Fauci says it will be important to keep a close eye on the southern hemisphere in the coming months as those countries south of the equator head into their autumn and winter months if the rate of coronavirus infections picks up during that time does he says that could mean the virus is seasonal with a second round coming at the end of the year in the southern hemisphere in southern Africa in in the southern hemisphere countries is that we're having cases that are appearing as they go into their winter season and if in fact they have a substantial outbreak it will be inevitable that we need to be prepared that will get a cycle around the second time Dr Fauci says it emphasizes the need to develop a vaccine testing it quickly in trying to get it ready so they'll have it available for that next cycle if it does come over nine hundred deaths have been reported in the U. S. to covered nineteen and there've been over sixty five thousand cases with New York the hardest hit area now the latest traffic and weather together accident right now reported Madison road east of eerie Avenue also an accident level Avenue a clip that Belgium is forecast from the advanced dentistry weather center during this challenging time advanced dentistry would like to say thank you to all the health care workers and folks on the front lines out there you are appreciated right daybreak a morning low of forty five now coming up for our Thursday partly cloudy some increasing clouds in the afternoon a high of seventy one at night a chance for showers and windy a low down to fifty nine from your severe weather station on nine first warning chief meteorologist Steve Raleigh news radio seven hundred WLW radar showing a clear sky our current temperature fifty seven degrees the state of Ohio now reporting a total of seven hundred four confirmed cases of the crown of virus along with two new test today with the death toll now at ten Dr Amy act and the director of the Ohio department of health had a correction on the age range it actually is less than a year to ninety four years of age the total number of hospitalizations is up to one hundred eighty two was seventy five admissions into the ICU sixteen percent of positive cases are health care workers Odiase says they know at least over fourteen thousand seven hundred residents have been tested so far for the virus but the exact number of negative cases is still unclear lawmakers passed emergency legislation to address several issues Ohio faces during the corona virus outbreak and now awaits governor Mike to one signature it addresses several issues including education the postponed Ohio primary and addresses delaying Ohio's tax deadline the primaries being moved to a mailing only until April twenty eighth under the bill and also the tax deadline to move to the federal deadline of July fifteenth one day after reporting a case of cover nineteen as a result of a coronavirus party Kentucky governor Eddie Bashir with another unique case today we do have our first case of someone that went on spring break to Florida and came back with the corona virus we can not do that there are now one hundred ninety eight confirmed cases of the corona virus in the Commonwealth that's up thirty five from Tuesday four new cases are out of Kentucky excuse me that is up yes thirty five from Tuesday and four out of ten counties would clarify that a seventy five year old man from Jefferson County is the fifth to die from the virus new restrictions will be going to affect the Kentucky tomorrow night at eight o'clock to combat the spread of the.