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We. Are not. Okay. On the most incredible Wizarding World weekend trip of a lifetime in New York City, Tessa and Brizzy attended a Lumos Charity Gala hosted by J.K. Rowling, watched a special Lumos production of Cursed Child introduced by J.K. Rowling, and THEN spent a day hanging out with the cast of Fantastic Beasts, watching the final trailer a day early, and MEETING THE QUEEN J.K. FREAKING ROWLING HERSELF!!! Magical aesthetic goddess (and youtuber) Cherry Wallis joins Tessa and Brizzy to reminisce on all the magical details of this insane weekend! And a big thank you to Warner Bros for making the VIP Fan Event possible and to Lumos for the invite to the gala and Cursed Child show! Join us and listen to our memories that will create the strongest Patronus ever!!! Follow Cherry!IG: https://www.instagram.com/cherrywallis/TW: https://www.twitter.com/cherrywallisYT: https://www.youtube.com/cherrywallisListen to us on Dan Fogler's podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/season-3-ep-26-y-the-last-episode-almost-part-2/id1145191833?i=1000420385167&mt=2 Follow us to stay up to date & send us an owl:TW: https://twitter.com/fantasticgeeksFB: https://www.facebook.com/groups/fantasticgeeks/Email: firstname.lastname@example.orgTessa:IG: https://www.instagram.com/tessanetting/TW: https://twitter.com/tessanettingYT: https://www.youtube.com/tessanetting Anna:IG: https://www.instagram.com/brizzyvoices/TW: https://twitter.com/BrizzyVoicesYT: https://www.youtube.com/brizzyvoices YOU are a Fantastic Geek!
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134: Ann Dvorak (The Seduced, Episode 3)
Episode of you must remember this podcast dedicated exploring the secrets and or forgotten histories of Hollywood's first century, I'm your host Karina Longworth. And today, we bring you another story from the seduced a mini series related to my new book seduction sex lies and stardom in Howard Hughes's Hollywood. Today. We're going to begin with an excerpt directly from the book. This comes from chapter seven which finds Jean Harlow adapting to her post. Hells Angels superstardom and Howard Hughes facing the challenge of how to follow up that phenomenal pop cultural spectacle with this sustained career as a Hollywood producer Jean Harlow left. Hughes's company for MGM as soon as she had a chance and another actress in whom Hughes had also invested much capital, Billie dove was not long for the Hughes organization. Either. Today's episode is about a third actress who blamed her association with Hughes for her career disatisfaction. By the end of nineteen thirty two Hughes had lost control of three significant actresses in whose stardom he had once been invested Howard Hughes as made a neat little role for himself buying up beautiful girls, putting them in expensive pictures, and then selling them retail to a paying studio gossip to screen land magazine, citing Jean Harlow, Billie dove. And and voice Shak as examples. A few months earlier twenty year old voice shack, an atypical beauty whose parents had worked in silent. Film had made headlines claiming she had been quote unquote, sold down the river by Hughes who had unloaded his contract with four shack to Warner Brothers after the actresses performance in Scarface had turned her from an unknown bit player into a budding star. I'm Mike Harlow Hughes couldn't even claim to have discovered voice Shak. She had been cast in Scarface after her friend. Actress Karen Morley had invited her to a party at director. Howard hawks his house before shooting began. At the party and had asked Scarface actor George raft to Dan, and he declined she was a little high drunk hawks. Remember and right in front of him starts to do this sexy. Undulating dance sort of trying to lure him onto dance with her. She was a knockout. She wore a black silk gown almost cut down to her hips. I'm sure that's all she had. Eventually raft gave in and according to hawks he and voice Shak proceeded to dance ace insatiable number which stopped the party. Hawks ended up casting voice shack in Scarface as Cesca. The sister with him the titular to bit gangster has a quasi incestuous bond and the director even inserted a scene in the movie replicating for Shaq's party dance with raft Hughes soon decided that if hawks was so interested voice shack must be valuable commodity. And in August, nineteen thirty one Hugh signed her to a long term contract. He also tried to date her, but voice shank was too nervous to accept his overtures though. She had stunned as a glamour girl in Scarface, and when drunkenly cavorting with raft on the dance floor. This had been a performance from young woman who thought of herself as a mousy wallflower, and she didn't want her boss to find out about the real her. As a result. When Hughes would call four shack would make her mother answer the phone and tell the millionaire that an was off doing something exciting and glamorous when in reality and would be sitting by the phone shivering shaking with excitement her face cold, creamed eating a ham sandwich Hughes never got further with four shot. There were rumors. The actress and director hawks had an affair on the set of Scarface and hawks did cast her in his next film. The crowd roars which required Warner Brothers to rent her services from Hughes Warner Brothers paid Hughes. Six hundred dollars for shock and awe Shak like Harlow before her got two hundred dollars a week Hughes. Kept renewing voice shacks contracts through the middle of nineteen thirty two. But he didn't give her much to do. He allegedly tried to get his old friend Lewis milestone to cast for shack and his adaptation of Somerset. Moms rain by Joan Crawford. Got the part instead Hughes cast for shack in just one more film, the Spencer, Tracy vehicle sky devils, and then continue to loan her out to Warner Brothers on the set of one of these WB films for shack met the man who would become her first husband actor, Leslie, Fenton. After four shack had shot. Five Warner Brothers films Hughes finally decided to sell her contract to the studio which paid Hughes an exorbitant forty thousand dollars after filming her six film at Warner Brothers three on a match opposite Humphrey Bogart voice shack decided that she wanted out Warrener's had taken their time drafting a new contract and voice shocks weekly salary. Hadn't yet been raised from the bargain. Basement rate Hughes headsets, plus after filming match voice shack learned that v. Toddler who had played her son in the film had been paid the same salary as her. In addition, Fenton, whom voice shack had impulsively married was making a movie in Germany and didn't want to be separated and per the times if anyone was going to shirk their professor. Final responsibilities for the good of the marriage. It was going to be the wife. So an walked out on her commitment. To Warner Brothers and traveled to Europe with her husband in breaching, her contract voice shack didn't seem to think she was giving up much. She was annoyed that Hughes had signed her to a seven year deal and had essentially pimped her out before selling her like chattel. And she wasn't happy with how Warrener's had used her thus far. I made nine pictures and eight months for Shak said summing up her career thus far quantity. Not quality. Invoice shatkin Fenton's absence. Her agent had already tried to negotiate with Warners to double ends paltry salary to no avail so on July nineteenth nineteen thirty two. Two weeks after voice Shak head of scond it from Hollywood with her husband, the actress Fenton and one hundred Garin actor named Victor VAR Coney spoke to the press in New York and announced that voice Shak had been sold down the river by Hughes Fenton and VAR Coney had what seemed like rehearsed statements ready to go. Producers look at you for how much money they can squeeze out of you Fenton declared a contracts sentenced to hard labor. There's no regard for personality stars are being sent to senatorial because they can't stand the pace that's not going to happen to and ver- Coney piped-in with virtual non sequitur, there is little culture in Hollywood. He sniffed. I hope I shall be able to arrange my affairs. So that I will not have to return there. Within a day. Howard Hughes had responded to worship claims with a statement that can only be described as a masterwork of rhetoric far exceeding in tone, and strategy voice. Shacks clumsy appropriation of the language of the slave trade and voice shack was not sold down the river, and she was misinformed if she thinks. So the statement began it went on to argue against each of worship main points. Even correcting some of worship math about his own share of prophets before damning or Shak with praise. Of course, some producers might be highly indignant at misfortune statement. And if they were in my position, they denounce her ingratitude proclaiming loudly. Miss voice shock would still be working for seventy five dollars a week. If we had not given her a part in scarfing, but I don't feel that with producers are. Not entirely responsible for the success of a star. I think some credit should be given from his voice to. The voice shock situation brought an echo of Hughes's conflicts with Jean Harlow. But if Harlow managed to shrug off Hughes and move on to bigger and better things in a way that made Hughes look expendable to her success. The opposite fate would be fall for shot. His statement elegantly put her in her place and made Hughes who could barely string together a sentence in a social situation. Look like, a fund of wit and charm. Who was an for shack. Where did she come from? And why did she strike out at Hughes this way, and what happened to her after that? Join us won't you for the story of an for foreshadow. When you want to get top brands without paying full price. Where do you go? I'm going to tell you a secret only six and a half million other people over any. No you go to zoo lily dot com. Finding a great deal on the perfect item for your home or your kids or just for. You is exciting and hard to predict but at zoo lily dot com. 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You're also helping support our show this month only our listeners get an extra twenty percent off your first order when you sign up at zoo lily dot com slash remember. That's zoo lily, C, U, L L, Y dot com slash remember. Four Shaq was born Anna mckim in nineteen eleven her parents were both actors, although her father was largely absentee and and was mostly raised by her mother and a layer layer who was a teenager. When her daughter was born transitioned from vaudeville to moderate film, stardom after parting ways with her baby daddy and moving with her four year old daughter to Los Angeles, the younger and was cast in a few small roles as a child before enrolling in a convent school. She was not yet a teenager when she decided to change her last name to voice shack, which she asked to be pronounced as voice Shak, although many people in Hollywood and elsewhere would pronounce it more or less phonetically as divorce act. The name was either discovered on an family tree or was a tribute to the composer with the same name. But either way it was an unusual move for an aspiring actress to choose a name that was more ethnic sounding than the ones who was born with during her first flush of fame newspapers reported that it was a miracle that an had already lost her foreign accents one columnist. Rather mean Lee referred to an as a girl whose name sounds like a typographical error later, Howard Hughes and his publicist Lincoln quarterb wood bat around ideas for a new name for an including and Howard and Lenore Lee. But quarterb would ultimately recommend that she stick with voice shack considering this girl's type in personality. He wrote in a memo, I think her present name is as good as anything we could give her it expresses her personality ended his unusual once it has been definitively established in the public mind, it will be remembered and. Stick longer than a less exotic moniker. I would recommend retaining it. Obviously, his recommendation was followed. As Anna layers screen career began to wind down her daughter became increasingly determined to find her own fame. Her mother was discouraging as she later admitted she had an arresting face. But I didn't think she was pretty layer and her new romantic partner who was an ad copywriter encouraged the ladies other passion poetry, instead the precocious teen graduated from high school at the age of fifteen she wanted to attend college. But at this point her mother's acting career had dried up, and there was no money for tuition. So an had to go to work. She wanted to work at a newspaper, but as a teenager with no experience or advanced education, she failed in that pursuit. Reluctantly her mother agreed to use her limited remaining, Holly. Would connections to get her daughter's foot in the door at the studios and a number of screen tests, which went nowhere. Casting director said I was too young. She later recalled they also said I was self conscious and not particularly good looking. She did not do herself any favors with styling. She would show up at additions wearing no makeup and baggy unflattering clothes, her hair plaited, and too childish braids if she didn't necessarily have star quality, she did have determination, and though she didn't really know how to dance she began going to open. Try outs for chorus girls at one open call at MGM. She was cut in the first round. But instead of going home, she rejoined the line and odd issue, and again, she kept getting cut and she kept going to be end of the. Align to try again. Finally, she asked to produce her. Why didn't you pick me amused? He agreed to hire her as a substitute in case, another dancer got injured another dancer did get injured and to an finally had her in. She would dance in the chorus of the musical the Hollywood review of nineteen twenty nine and to promote the film. She was one of several girls placed on top of a billboard for it high above Wilshire boulevard, this film, led to several more opportunities for an at MGM. I is a chorus dancer and then as an assistant dance instructor. This was not what she wanted. But it was steady work in nineteen twenty nine which no girl would have turned down. One of Ann's tasks was to show dance moves to Joan Crawford during pre production for the film, dance, fools dance. The two young women became friends and inspired by Joan and finally started making an effort to polish her personal style. And look Crawford and her then husband, Douglas, Fairbanks junior attempted to help and get real acting work. But she was nothing more than a bit player until she met Karen Morley who introduced her to Howard hawks who cast her in Scarface. One of the hidden hallmarks of Howard Hughes his career as a producer was remakes official or otherwise multiple times. He would return to concepts and even stories and titles that had worked in the past for him or for his collaborators. A less charitable word for such works would be retreads. He may have continued this pattern because of the one time when it really really worked. Scarface was producer Howard Hughes's attempt to recapture in the sound era, though winning formula of one of the heads that had established him as a force to be reckoned with in Hollywood, the silent gangster film, the rackets. The racket was a ripped from the headlines crime picture which had been Frank enough in its depiction of inner city corruption to inspire pushback from local censorship boards and Hughes had used these kerfuffle 's to promote himself as a bold new rebel who wouldn't allow the nanny state to tell him. What to do Scarface, though, ostensibly based on novel was essentially a revisiting of the racket updated to attract audiences who were flocking to talk ease that pushed the envelope of what the code office found acceptable hawks explained that he saw it as the story of Al Capone with an incest. Spin borrowed from the Borgia. The film has two key female parts that of Cesca the lead gangsters sister, and that of his actual romantic interest, poppy which would be played by Morley. Hughes could have arranged to borrow an from MGM for the single film, which was the arrangement he had made to get Morley. But instead hawks negotiated with 'em GM's Eddie Mannix to release Vereshak from her contract there and Hughes signed her to a new contract with his company. It was the middle of nineteen thirty one and the two highest profile performers under contract to Hughes were Jean Harlow who the public somewhat inaccurately perceived as a total nobody who Hughes had discovered and turned into a massive star. And Billie dove. A major star of the late silent era whose career Hughes was attempting to resurrect through furious rebranding by spring of nineteen thirty two both of these actresses would have left Hughes's employ Billy because her romantic relationship with Hughes head ended and gene for bigger stardom at the studio and had left MGM. But when envoys Shak signed with Hughes to make Scarface, neither of those defections had happened and Hughes's reputation was that of a boy wonder who had to specific knack for promoting female starlets and was led to believe that against all odds. She had been chosen for greatness. Scarface would give her what sadly proved to be one of the best opportunities of her career. She only has a handful of scenes in the movie, but the relationship between Tony and Cesca is the emotional heart of the film symbolizing the human cost of a life of crime for the families of the perpetrator. We I see voice shack when Tony walks in on her kissing a man, what do you mean doing nothing? Sure. What? One just my first run. You're doing a you. Don't. Over the course of the film. Tony tries to forcibly keep his sister out of Speakeasy nightclubs and away from his own partner in crime played by raft. When Tony comes back from a trip and catches Cesca and rafts gangster in a hotel room together. Tony shoots his friend thinking is protecting his sister. But in fact, he's killed her. New husband. Clearly and performance in Scarface is not exactly subtle but much like the Brian depalma Alpa, chino remake Scarface is not a subtle film. In fact, it's operatic. And and does show emotional range when she takes a fatal bullet meant for her brother. She underplays her death scene. Allowing Muny to soak up the spotlight in full meltdown. The Hays office did not have a problem with the overtones of incest in Scarface their arguments against the film were solely focused on the fact that it put a criminal at the center of the story without Veith felt sufficiently punishing him for his bad actions. In fact, the character played by palm Uni is complex. But you could argue that there are aspects of him that are in pathetic still he is absolutely punished at the end of the film, and it would be difficult to interpret Scarface as recommending a life of crime. The racket was censored because it showed the police in a bad light. Scarface may have faced the ire of the sensors because of its depiction of urban anarchy but Hughes and those close to him felt that the Hays office was personally singling him out because of his previous and repeated in Taganrog of. Code. I go into this in more depth in seduction. But suffice it to say this was a battle that Hughes. Ultimately, one Scarface was a major hit and and voice Shak as its female lead. Immediately vaulted the top of the list of the year's news stars. She wouldn't stay there. For long Hughes would her in just one more film sky devils in which she got to do a dance number but not much else. Use continued to renew his option on her contract without giving an anything to do in the spring of nineteen thirty two Warner Brothers subcontracted with Hughes to borrow an exclusively until the summer. One of the films and made during this period. The strange love of Molly Louvain, directed by Michael Kirk tease is indicative of the kind of pre code content in which she shined. And gives the best performance in any film. I've seen her and as a shop girl who gets knocked up by noncommittal rich guy and ends up having the baby and going on the Lam with a petty crook. When the crook gets into a shootout with police, Molly is wrongly reported to be the real mastermind of his gang. And she and a college boy, drip, who's in love with her and up hiding out at a boarding house where Molly meets a reporter played by Lee, Tracy who happens to be trying to track down, the supposed- gun mole ace reporter of oheka may be he and Molly instantly hit it off. And he doesn't suspect until way later that she's the girl he's mounted and absurdly manipulative fake news campaign to help capture. Call me, babe. I knew that Baber queenie I'm on a quarter. I read between the sheet I used to read in bed myself, but. Like you and I are going to get along. The strange love of Molly Louvain is evidence of Ann's natural ability to play the crackling sexually charged dialogue of pre code and screwball comedy. Unfortunately, she wouldn't make many more movies like it. It was on this set that an met the man who would become her. First husband co star, Leslie Fenton who played the two bit crook. They were married on Saint Patrick's Day nineteen thirty two and immediately began making statements the press that her priority now would be her marriage. Not her career a lot of actresses said things like this. It was virtually expected of a female star to insist that despite what power she might seem to wield onscreen in real life. She was really just a normal woman who was like many of the women who constituted her fan base subservient to her husband a lot of actresses said this, but not all of them walked the walk the way and voice Shak would. When an set sail for Europe with her husband breaching who won her brothers contract in the process. She had just filmed what would arguably end up being her best part at the studio in three on a match in which an played one of triumvirate of female friends, though, one of co-stars was Betty Davis. It was voice Shak who had the juiciest part as a young mother who becomes addicted to drugs and tumbles into the gutter. This was the performance that convinced Warrener's to buy her contract from Hughes. So when an immediately went AWOL, it showed a lack of interest in playing such media roles that she also bad mouth, the industry Hughes and Warner Brothers specifically didn't help which is not to say and didn't have legitimate grievances. She had been worked very hard by Warner Brothers for very. Little financial compensation. She described how the workload was impacting her in very dramatic terms. They're pushing me too hard. I tell you. I'm tired of seeing so much envoy shack around on the billboards the magazines if they keep on there will be nothing left of me. I'll be dead so far as movies are concerned and something in me will die too. She was also receiving bad council while and Leslie were away lesley's agent. Charles Feldman attempted to negotiate on behalf. Feldman seem to think that the longer and stayed away the more desperate the studio would be to get her back. Feldman told Warrener's that if they doubled her salary and personally requested that an comeback. She would do. So while an was on the boat before she even reached Europe. Jack Warner cable her asking her to come back, but Feldman told and who ignore the request days later and had Leslie gave their press conference at which these sold down. The river accusation was made Hughes's rebuttal easily won the first battle in the headline war and the rest of the entertainment media stood behind who they perceived as the winner mocking and for her. Entitlements and capriciousness one columnist spoke to and directly writing you are not important enough to get away with it. And when you are important enough, you won't want to and would never have a chance to find out if she could become that important. But even if she hadn't done the unforgivable in publicly attacking the studio system, she probably would have been seen as more of a character. Actress then a leading lady. There were actresses who blurred that line in the nineteen forties. Two of them Bette Davis and either Lupino would do so at Warner Brothers. But though, Betty would bring her own legal action against Warner Brothers and was the first actress to step into that particular fire. She was not rewarded. Gobble is a meal prep service that makes it so easy to cook. Fresh delicious meals in fifteen minutes with just one pan. Really? That's because gobble has an army of sous-chef doing all of the prep work for you. They take care of the peeling chopping marinating, creating the perfect sauces, always using the highest quality ingredients it's delivered fresh to your doorstep, and you can cook it up and just fifteen minutes, which means less time in the kitchen and more time with the family and gobble has a huge variety of delicious meals, something for everyone family favorites gluten or dairy free or vegetarian some popular menu items include pumpkin yoki with Ruta bega and apple. 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They got back in late March nineteen thirty three the studios have been forced to respond to two major drags on their previously established way of doing business, the depression, and the increasing enforcement of the Hays code and Leslie had spent their savings while the way. So she no longer had the luxury to protest Warner Brothers is treatment of her. She agreed to go back to work under a modified contract, which would pay three hundred twenty five dollars a week with periodic raises that her salary would eventually top out at twenty three. Hundred dollars a week and was publicly contrite swearing. I shall never again act like a child playing hooky from school. But Warner Brothers didn't act like they were happy to have her back in the fold. It took months for the studio to actually cast her in a movie after five months, she was loaned out to paramount to coast are in a musical with Murray. Chevelle yay. Finally, she was given a small part in a minor WB production called college coach she'd film nine movies for Warners in nineteen thirty four. But in most of them her roles were supporting and hardly the driver of the story right before the Hays office put new enforcement of the production code into effect and was able to sneak in one more pre code gem heat lightning. Although she would be totally blown off screen by the character. Actress Aline MacMahon who gave an incredible performance in a rare lead role generally and was cast as the support of girlfriend or a wife, but at least in housewife in what she played the spouse of an advertising executive her contributions to a household were given the spotlight of the movie during this time and Leslie were enjoying their own idiosyncratic version of what had bliss they had gradually accumulated a lot. Of land in van Nuys, California, where they lived in an open plan house on the middle of a working walnut ranch, which they owned in their spare time they together pursued the unusual hobby of bacteriology. And was well behaved for her first year back at WB and she worked steadily without incident still while Jean Harlow had only gone on to bigger and better things at her major studio after leaving Hughes and was finding herself fifth build on minor films. And her studio was doing nothing to generate material with her in mind, then and did a couple of things that made it look like she was demanding special treatment, which the executives didn't like I she maneuvered to change her contract. So that she would be given only two weeks of unpaid leave per year rather than the four weeks deputies on nearly every other performers contract. Then she tried to get out of traveling to San Francisco to do press for film called G men, then when? The studio cast her in thankless part as James Cagney wife in a movie called ceiling zero and called in sick on day one and spent the day writing a letter to Jack Warner I must insist that you place me in productions of dramatic merit in which my artistry personality intelligence and experience may be displayed. She wrote failure to do. So will be considered a breach of contract on your part? Instead, she was fired from the movie and put on health related suspension. And seems to have been faking sick. Which was a mistake the studio could now use her supposed ill health as an excuse not to give her any work. And there does seem like there was something going on with her always Finn and had dropped so much weight by this point that the studio thought she looked unattractive on camera. They. Got a studio Dr to sign the statement. It is my opinion that in her presence state of health. She could not pursue her duties as a contract player without greatly endangering her health. And there is a strong possibility that she would not be able to complete a picture should you undertake to have her do? So at this time. If an was too sick to work that would make it a lot easier for Warners to cancel her contract, especially if she volunteered to stay home when she was supposed to be on sets when she called in sick for several days on her next film this studio again took her off the job and put her on unpaid suspension in need of her salary to keep the bills paid on her ranch and decided to disobey the orders of her personal doctor and the studio doctor and show up anyway, but she was sent home and accused in private memos of pretending. She was well so that the studio would be forced to pay her. And decided to take the matter to court and had found three doctors who examined her and provide statements that she was healthy enough to work. So her lawyer argued that Warrener's had breached her contract by forcing her onto medical suspension after she filed suit Warners had two of their own doctors examined, and and both claimed she was in fact too ill to work still hoping an would drop the suit in January nineteen thirty six the studio lifted her suspension, her lawyer advised her not to go back to work into the legal matter was settled. So she didn't on Valentine's Day, she appeared in court to testify. She acknowledged that she had been dissatisfied with the roles the studio had offered her and recalled I told Mr. Warner if I was not worth my salary for him to release me. But she. Denied that she was ill and claimed that she had been ready to work for four months. The studio brought in images of an over the years to demonstrate that she had become severely thinner over time despite much testimony from doctors who claimed an was healthy the judge decided in favor of the studio that they had been justified in suspending her on the basis of her health. She was ordered to return to work and plan to appeal and did not return to work. This battle dragged on for over a year during which time and did not work at her home studio for nearly twelve months finally at the end of nineteen thirty six Warrener's agreed to let an walk away from her contract. And would not officially retire for another fifteen years, but the end of her time at Warner Brothers would in hindsight turn out to be the end of her chance to ever become a major star. While other actresses such as Barbara Stanwick were able to successfully freelance before and after World War Two and would spend the next decade and a half working for a variety of studios, but she never really built any momentum. There would be some interesting movies such as cafe hostess in nineteen thirty nine, but then World War Two got underway and an again afraid that letting her husband go to Europe on his own would be the end of their marriage walked away from her Hollywood career when the British Leslie enlisted in order to join him overseas. She worked a bit in British films over the course of the war. But who? Knows what would have happened if she had stayed in Hollywood where the parts for actresses who could play strong, independent women only multiplied during the war. It's especially tempting to wonder what could have been given that the marriage barely outlasted the war in nineteen forty six Leslie and Ann announced they would divorce as soon as she was legally free and married a dancer named eager data when an returned to Los Angeles after the war. She was restless depressed self conscious and nervous, but she had let her stardom slip away. She remained at loose ends for months, then made a few films under contract, the minor studio Republic her highest profile performance around this time came in these star studded moral milligram are the walls of Jericho which starred Coronel wild. As a small town attorney and politician whose life is destroyed slowly by the scheming of sexy Lady Macbeth played by Linda Darnell, and the anchor of his alcoholic wife played by an and only has a handful of scenes in the movie, but she makes the most of them giving a convincing performance as an angry bitter woman who has always felt inferior to both wealthy impossibly beautiful ladies like Dr now and to her husband who for some reason every girl and woman in Kansas wants to bone. After Jericho she had a small, but significant part in the George Kuku directed Lana Turner vehicle a life of her own, but ends film career had begun to tail off. She worked in radio and television and made a couple of efforts on the New York stage. She divorced data and married for a third and final time to nNcholas. Wade an architect designer and Griff daughter together. And Wade tried to start a television production company funded by an this appears to have been a total money pets and spent hundreds of thousands of dollars and never actually produced anything in nineteen fifty seven and filed for divorce from Wade. And in her filing described horrible sounding physical abuse that she said he had inflicted on her throughout their marriage. Meanwhile. She she'd contracted to berkey Laos's and spent much of that year hospitalized when she emerged. She and Wade got back together cancelled their divorce and moved to Hawaii over the course of this marriage and had lost nearly all of her assets. Six years later during a period when the couple was again, separated nNcholas Wade died and wrote a poem reflecting on where she had ended up. I had to reach sixty two to finally become free a career and three marriages two divorces a life of fire and brimstone adventure. Yes, lots of it in many ways. And herself died of cancer for years later in nineteen seventy nine she had entered the hospital under her given name, Anna mckim. So it took a while for word to get out that and for shock of long ago Hollywood fame had passed away. Next week. We will catch up with Hughes in the nineteen forties as he begins to pursue a number of brunette beauties three of whom will be the subjects of the remaining three episodes of this season. Join us then won't you? Thanks for listening to you must remember. This. Today's episode was written narrated and produced by Corrine along. That's me, our editor is a obvious NAT our research and production assistant is Lindsay shown hoax. Our social media. Assistant is Brendan Waylon and our logo was designed by teddy blanks. Special. Thanks to our special guest. Noah Siegel who returned to the podcast to play Howard Hughes. For more information about this episode and other episodes, please go to our website, you must remember this podcast dot com. There. 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ep 154: "The Lost Tapes Vol. 3"
Hey, dear listeners. I hope everyone had a great new year on and I are so thankful for all of your support past three years. And I really hope we get to do this forever. So this compilation is full of fresh content. That is never been heard before we have Adam Scott playing Tom Cruise so FIA Bush brings something weird and Bill Hader talks about documentary now, and there's also bunch more. So I hope you enjoyed. Can we talk a little bit about documentary now? Oh, yeah. Sure. Because it's one of the most. Fucking brilliant 'em bizarre concepts. Did you sell this idea? I know you get out. I know I had. No, no, no, no. But it's like, I don't know we like. It's like, you know, like we have questions get asked. And there's things you don't talk about in your regular life. But then that's one that sets them Fred night when we're around each other. It'll be low the conversation, then we'll just go. How the hell did we get three? Now. It's like, and I think the reason is because we went to see when Fred had done Portland. Yeah. So that was you know, doing that that that number go. And then and then me, and Fred it was our last episode of our lives. We're off the show, and it was three days after that happened. And it was weirdly like promoted it was like in the news a lot. So it was like, you know, just like one of those things where we hit it at the right moment where you guys are in the news. And so they were like you can do kind of whatever you want. And we just kept saying yes, or no it's going to be a show. We're gonna recruit documentaries like we couldn't do it with a straight face and they want because we had done. This thing called the history of punk where we had recreated some of the filth and the fury and some of that stuff. And that was the thing that I saw and I went, okay, we should do a show like this and do some of the great documentaries. And it'd be kind of an interesting curated thing and grey gardens your first one was Myers that was his idea was like we should agree gardens. And you guys are the Greg Arden's ladies in itself can cut, and I remember we got we got really in her head about being in drag like is this is this like lame that we're like I just remember the day of the first day ever shooting documentary now like very first day was Greg gardens, and it was me doing that dance with the oh God flags and I just. Thought the cruise like what the fuck did we decide up? For. And and yet doing Frank was weird that weren't is this lame. Or is it, you know, people liked it not so fucking good. It's brilliant. Lot of credit goes to Reese Thomas, Alex, Puno and this guy mica Gardner show. They're listening. No. But seriously, those guys for people listening those guys that team because Alex is code rectory also DP on them. And and that styled, we we do it in is like that just to be able to there's like this company where you can actually go and bring your film sucks to in the guy will make can digitally make the film stock. Like, you could bring in like, okay. Here's the actual camera. Logs from. Greg gardens, and they can go down to like the bin number in recreate it. It's insane. This is some actors excel at being versions of themselves. I guess and they're great at it. Because maybe their inherent charm is is enough to be so relatable. I love it. And I feel like I can relate to this idea more that you love escaping into characters. Fully I guess, that's really fucking simplistic way to put it. But I enjoy that. Because I fundamentally feel like I'm an introvert which I relate to that. Yeah. Where people go. Oh, you're really extra. You know, whatever. But then people if you find people get to know, you go, oh, you're like, are you? Okay. All right. And you're like, no, I just have nothing to say. Really what's wrong in nearly eight that? Yeah. Yeah. Nothing's wrong. I'm just a. Know on Jimmy Fallon. You're like really funny. And you're like, I can't do that all the time. I wonder if it's like the heightened or and for me, I don't know. I just I like escaping into an idea of a character. And I really liked playing fucked up of noxious characters. If it's. I feel your giggling because. No, really. Oh, but yeah, it's nice people can go. Oh that person from that thing is also the person. But for me, it was always kind of thing of like from writing standpoint going, oh, this'll be a fun thing to do. And then I guess I'll play I'll I'll do this. And then how can I tell the story best, you know, that it never starts with the character and out. No. It's always like, well, let's do great gardens. And most of the conversation is like what's the story? And how are we gonna shoot it and everything like that? And it isn't really Intel I going for like a wardrobe fitting that I start talking about like, oh, maybe she's like this that whatever's like, do you hear a voice is like, no, it's usually I'm great gardens. And this is me being just bad at my job is just lazy is that? Because SNL like I said it. Would be like day of they give you thing. And Greg gardens of because we Pratt on those things were so crazy that think it was the night before that I actually watched Greg gardens, and then I was watching it. And then I was like, and I was like, okay. So kind of this. And then I would go up and say like is it kinda like this? But what I'm saying is like it's like, you prep everything else, and you get super in its place, and then so when they say action, you just can go someplace else, and you just don't you're not thinking about it. Because I I'm comfortable knowing that everything is in its right place. And then they say cut, and usually the first thing I say is like does that work that makes sense. But like the less, I think about it the better, I think that's why I never liked stuff. I didn't SNL 'cause I was over thinking it, but the less you kind of think about it, the like, this this other thing comes out that you you don't know you're doing. Like, I watched when they show. So the I kinda grey gardens is stuff like printing, my hair and things I don't I didn't. I don't was not conscious effort to the mannerisms stuff is not a conscious effort, you know. And then so you watch it and you go, oh, that's good. You don't think about it? Maybe maybe there's like a natural absorption. You have. Well, but they like the idea of of being incredibly empathetic or some sort of a you don't wanna make fun of the person. She. Aren't you making fun would be like a super exaggerated or overly sort of mat like you winking at your own masculinity? Right. But you don't do that. It's it's you convey sort of the same vulnerability that the the young one had what was her name. Fuck little little easily. Fred of courses, fucking his. Yeah. Probably go away when he's joined the stuff at the raccoon Galway raccoon, and he's telling food at it. Let's get it to go away closer to. Yeah. It's like if you would have seen the outtakes from that all we were doing was bit. We just kept doing this bid as Obama at the base of the capital records building talking about his time in Los Angeles like him giving a speech. Fred, I just could not stop doing it. So we would do our take. And then the minute they would say cut one of us would, you know, down to Venice beach. We're in the sixties band taught us that if we work hard we can break on through to the other side. Hot dog. And we would just sit there the minute. They would do scene and then the crew is stuff. To be a long law was like. Out of the Senate to broker fucking loved it. I think they got really sick of it because it just kept going on and then in season two midway through season two remembered it again. Doing this shit. And now some Bush this is really exciting for me because Simmons gone, he left us alone. He's gonna take over the first time. This is happened. We really yeah. Sims never your trusted fucking. Yeah. It's just you and ice if you okay? So you tell me I asked you to bring something weird. And you were so kind that you did. I'm in a burlap sack. And I don't know what. I know it's not a head over. It's a head. Okay. Close your eyes. Okay. Do I get to like hold up? My hands. No. I mean, I'm just gonna put it tweet us. Okay. It's a bird's nest. Gladys this is so fucking RAD. And look there's like you can see obviously, a little twigs, and then the leaves in there, and then somewhere I knew that little piece of class all this kind of odd shit and then feathers. Yup. I yet weird Cottigny. Okay tweet. What about this love a love the brought this? But what about this? A you have over to my weird fucking house. I would love to have all kinds of odds shit. You might not like me after it. So I'm I'm a I'm a symbol person. Everything for me. I get really attached to the symbolism in the meaning of things. And when we talk about the messaging girls get there's this sort of I think are chaotic thing of like when you settle down. And when you do all of this then you'll nest and it's like. But in fact, there's something really special. I think about taking objects from your life and building a home and for me as a person who since I was offensively junior in college to now has been away from home to work. Home is the thing that I care the most about my home, and my family and my community, and my dogs, and like home is my sacred space, and I really struggle when I'm taken out of it and years ago, I was explaining to a friend how from the outside it might look great. But what it felt like is. You know, when you watch that nature video in the eagle picks up the cute little animal, and like carries it far far away in the drops it in like, you know, the cliffside rocks. And then it's about to be eaten in like that sad thing is is how I feel sometimes I feel like you the eagle out of my life. No, I feel like little creature plucked out of my. Being coming continue little shit here. We drop it off. That's how I feel. I feel like I sort of get dropped in a landscape. That's foreign am. I going to survive it or not. And I've had this weird thing about birds for so long, and I was on a hike with a friend years ago and talking about how like my home is my nast. My home is the thing that I build with like weird shit from the flea market. And and I'm always collecting friends, and they come over, and everyone feels like my home is their home. And so many of my friends have keys to my home, and like, it's our gathering place. It's our it's our safe little nest, and I'd really been thinking about why means so much to me and how it feels different than every other place and literally on a hike like traipsing through the woods in this area. Where all these nests in the trees this old. Dried out nest was on the ground like it. It was done. It was used it had fallen out of a tree it wasn't necessary anymore, and like the metaphor of it during this conversation was not lost on me. So I wrapped it up, and I brought it home, and I put it in this little gos- box and everyone's favourite room in my house is the Dan we pile all of our friends on the couch all the time and this sits on the den coffee table. And it's like that. This is the center of my house is this little Ness. It's it's fucking beautiful. I want you to come over. And I have a couple of nece you to do have some weird things. But into the weird stuff. I I feel you in it is fucking beautiful. We'll get a picture of it. That's what I love about. So that segment is that p people bring something that that does in our weird fucking alienated yet unbelievably privileged community that. People find something that the brings them joy. And and but in this is this is fucking amazing. Thank you so much for it, man. Just take it home. Okay. Cool. Yeah. It's good. I mean, I know you have a couple, but you could associate more if you've ever felt like doing mushrooms, which I haven't done for years. Would you feel like going out to the desert and doing mushrooms with me one hundred percent? Yes. What do you think? I'm best podcast ever. I'm a leader in in medicine of nature. So no, whatever whatever you. Well, just wait till like it's like four thirty two in your lake AM, and you're like, okay. Calm down on it. It's gonna be okay. No. I'm having a vision, our very own Priscilla Queen of the desert like, yeah. Like fabulous moment. Be like fucks feel. That's find another. Have you read women who run with wolves? No. Oh, well, I was gonna ask you that earlier. Does that I have a gift for you? Okay. But like what was your if you could pick one influential book like between the ages of thirteen to sixteen. Oh. Oh, man. I'm really trying to think about like, what did I what did I love 'cause my freshman year in high school was when I really started getting into literature trying to think of some of the books that really did that for me. But for some reason, Mike harping on the book, I wrote my my a PSA on my senior year, but it would not do this. But it was heart of darkness by Joseph Conrad God. Oh. Oh, he's just such a good writer. Oh, fun, though. That's yeah. But but I don't know. I there were so many stories that I was so inspired by all of the writing of Tony Morrison. And I think probably most her when I think about things that shaped me voice, the voice of loved everyone in her view. But knew the world could be better. That that probably made the greatest impact on me, which one how do you pick that's hard because I don't remember. What actually the first book of hers was that? I even read when I was in high school, but it I remember having this this moment and begging my mom to take. There's this bookstore in Pasadena called Romans been there forever like Romans, but with v in the front, and I I I asked if I use my allowance money to buy every Tony Morrison book that they had I had this like love affair with her words, and they sort of it's been a really long time. They cannot jumbled together for me at this point as far as the order in which I might have read them. I was what was yours will. It's funny. Because I as I was asking that question, I realizing it's one of those questions, I really wanna answer myself. You know, how you ask a question you're like, but I can't wait for my turn. I say and then say what about you? What are you? So what about you? I loved Foxfire by Joyce, Carol Oates because it was so fucking do. They keep his girl gang in Albany, New York. I believe like these poor girls that are like, but they're fucking bad ass, and they they beat up this misogynistic store owner and fed into the time. My well, you're damn the man vibe the completely. And the. Oh, I was thinking about too I love James Baldwin in Glaister college. But and who's the southern writer? She also has three names monk kid. No. She her collection of short stories Owl's going crazy. Probably on the way home will be like, oh that was three names. Yes. Shaw. Southern short stories are there, Flannery O'Connor. Yes. Flynn car. Okay. I guess it wasn't three names. I guess just few syllables in St. is many souls Flynn route one hundred I liked I just I was thirsty for. For a female perspective is I'm sure you were well, and even though it was different experiences from I imagine what we had that. It was still like, oh, yeah. This is our story in other people who are like, you know. Because that was always frustrating in school to be given books that were constantly from a male perspective, always about the boys. And it's interesting because people who are not left out don't understand how anyone could feel left out. But when you realize what a Toni Morrison novel or Flannery O'Connor story can do for a woman you understand as we progress to to making sure everyone can see themselves in storytelling, you understand movements. And an all never forget years ago. I met a girl who was eleven at the time named Marley Diaz. Who started a campaign called one thousand black girl books because she realized there was not a book she'd read in school where the hero looked like her. And and now, you know, all these years later this past fall, we spoke at the United State of women together. And I was just like like she's in high school, and she is she's started this movement to make sure that young women of color are represented in the books. They're reading in school. And she's the personification for me of that idea that wherever it is. You are in the line of success. You have to make sure you're holding open the door for women who've come before you. So if if we can make sure that a a Flannery novel gets into our school. We also need to make sure that not just women are represented, but women of all different kinds of heritage. And everybody. Right. Everybody everybody. And because that's how you teach empathy. I think I at least. I mean, I guess a person who self describes as empathetic probably not that empathetic as a look around the room nervously. But, but but but but but but literature is it's so to me it's been such a good lesson in acting in like in in and how we really because it forces your imagination to just you know, just like fucking to kill a Mockingbird. Fuck end kill mock birdie, new out, log step and somebody else a sous God. What the fuck is wrong with me. Now, I think it's great she drop in it so easily. It's really fun. It is because as a person who predominantly has worked in drama. I mean whenever all this means the quotes of drama comedy performance performance. But as as a person who has been more sort of string. Gently tied to the roles in my jobs. I excited when when people who do so much comedy, just play more readily. But I feel the opposite is well, I am yearly. Yes, I m v the being able to. Access be being able to express emotions that are that are, you know, less silly. And and in. Those moments where I feel like I get to I get to experience a character's pain. And I I want that heels something in me as well. So but interesting, we all we all want to try on the hats. We don't wear every day. Yeah. Having said that. I don't know if I want to be a bus driver in Los Angeles. Right. Reels loads full job that feels like the hardest. Fucking job. Yeah. Fuck I can't imagine it. How do they not like just honk all the time, by the way since on honking been cheer tangent? Don't you think there should be two different honks? Yes. It should be like a like a friendly like to to like watch out for like that. Fuck. A to like quit Texan lights. Green. Poop poop or like. A like you're about to fucking hit me dick like your damage to life or like, hey, let's be aware. Wealfare? I know you. See that. I would be too scared because I feel like you celebrity honk no advocating, I'm going. I'm advocating for celebrity Hong, no because I feel like even if I if I will Farrell, I know you Hong he'd be like who is that I'm gonna cruise by your place, and it'd be like the lewd lewd actually need. In addition to honks, I genuinely believe we need to turn signals because there needs to be a u turn turn signal like a little upside down arc shaped thing. So that when you are at a light, and you're actually going to make a u-turn the person once you're starting to turn who's in the in the perpendicular, lean to you doesn't try to kill you the second their light turns green, and you're still moving through their intersection. You know shouldn't be making u-turns. I don't know. You haven't been sending illegal u-turns? Okay. Because I would argue that the should be a tiny alight indicates that you're following some. Body that you guys are all going to party gather. Right. And it can't do the defied. Can't do here. 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They used to play early on the podcast. She's a YouTube sensation. And she does like brief celebrity interviews. I love it withstood. Hey, everyone. It's Kelly fantastic. I have over a hundred seventy million followers over eighteen different social media platforms. And I'm super excited to be talking today with Billy Eichner, Billy you grew up in New York City. Yes, Kelly was what was it like like writing this? As and stuff goes great, does do you have like the thing like vasts? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Go on. Subways were great. It's very efficient way of traveling. Yeah. Underground like molar, something my brother wants caught a baby Mon I dunno wanted to keep it, Pat. But then we ended up. So is I am Billy sorry. What's your sign over ago? If that's cool. That's really cool. So what does that mean to you? I guess I'm supposed to be like anal or something. But I'm I'm not like about my stuff that me, you know, like neat. Very neat. Ninty didn't tidy I sit. But you're not. I'm not really, no I like the kind of person that has like like stacks and stacks and stacks of like toilet paper and paper towels and yes. Like the wet wipes, and I love a wet wipe on. Well, no, not well that could be used for that. I guess. I haven't used it for that. That's I mean, I know you're not supposed to put toilet. But it actually I find them pretty handy on I have like. Be workers. So you're single that. I really cool when you go to people like on the street, a you're kind of loud to them and you surprise them like what is going through your head? Your K. Kellie, Kellie, Kellie, Kellie, Kellie, nam cool. Yeah. What's going through? My head is is I'm basically just trying to remember what I'm going to ask them if they stopped. Hi. Sometimes there's a lot going on in my head. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Is there yet? It's would cause some news. I forget to even went like, I'm doing these interviews exams. It is kinda hard to remember exactly what I'm supposed to say. When did she lose your Janati? Oh depends on what kind of rigidity you're talking about anal-. Oh, I'm gonna discuss that with saving that for you know, like Anderson Cooper thing. I don't mean like the act. I mean the story. I mean, do you know that I have of a hundred eighty million dollars over seventeen different social media platforms. Amazing. Congratulations. Thank you. Yeah. I like bag. Okay. So I wanted to tell you something though. I had a parakeet when I was little onus yet. And then my dad accidentally let it go and flew into the maple tree. And we couldn't get it down for a really long time. And then it tripped over the front step ahead to go. Get stitches. Folks. It was weird. That was good. What about your first stitches experience? I banged my head on the on the ceiling in high school and had to get stitches in my head make his early tall. We wearing stilts was that Jamica today's fill ready, really tone. Why did this ceiling? Up like, celebrating getting the lead in music, man. I know losing my anal sex genitive. Ended a bleeding in two spots. The turn. Thanks. To me now. We're going to do a little segment called would you swipe? Right. Okay. Contortionist for surp- Soleil. Right. No elaboration you just like. Right. Yeah. Have you been to Cirque they solo Macy? Everybody's fucking jacked out of their mind yet. But that that for me personally, aesthetically aesthetically. All right. But I don't know if I. What might might type type is cute nerd? I die for Cunard. Did you? I know nothing. He's a cute nerd. Sorry. Call. Okay. So all right. Yeah. But like, I mean swipe, right? That just means like it doesn't have to be long-term. No, you've fighter left. Okay. Raw food caterer. I think left. Okay. Someone dealing with Sulaiman Nella on the daily. Good call. Yeah. Better safe than sorry. Parking enforcement officer left. I it's just trying to make a living come on that's higher up than magician. No, no way. No way. No way. It's equal to way. I guess it sort of it's one of those jobs that has to be done. I guess right. I think that you know, it has to be done. But also I lies. Just trying to do to you feel passion, Kim, compassionate, compassion. Yeah. For parking enforcement people because. Yeah. It feel great to be going around making people feel miserable. I think some of them feel great. But magicians feel great about making people feel miserable all night long. They're up to in the morning like if you kinda see like, David Blaine or some shit, or whatever you're like what the fuck Honey like how how does that should happen? How did that happen to get duped? We do I paid fucking two hundred fifty bucks, these tickets and got fucking duped. How did it happen? And it's like that's going to torment you for the rest of your life until you get dementia and. Yeah. And then you're like, I don't know why. Hey, David Blaine. I can't tell you. How many times someone is telling me about specifically about David Blaine? Okay. He owns a, you know, I was so sorry. I am had a fifth birthday party at a wagmans. You egg says no it's like like a Bristol farms. Okay. You had fifth birthday party. Yeah. At a Bristol farm. Hey, like at a grocery store. Hey, I'm from a small town, and I had a magician at my birthday party. And I vividly remember that like somebody was on a plank and had the hoop around them. And they recently talked about this that I was like, I still don't know how that happened. Yeah. I know. Yes. It's like, you know, like, you don't realize memory as awful until you've blocked it out for. Yes. Three years. I have a lot of the professions at but athlete is number two well actually in sort of revised unemployed video game designer to number one then magician than unavoidable. They really video game designer bright. Yeah. The self-described number four was chef. Anyway, I wouldn't do chef. No, I would in a heartbe why food? I mean, I wouldn't eight lichen sous-chef got a Perkins or something. I have I think. Okay. Here's the thing. They come home at like three thirty in the morning, you know, and it's a stressful sweaty job. So the Poor's don't always smell great not that do, but there's don't necessarily. They don't wanna cook for you. And also, I think having had no experience with this whatsoever. Just watching the Gordon Ramsay ratio, a master chef else guessing. Else Gessen the chefs have a hard time leaving their temperate workplace. I don't like that. I don't like the cultivating of anger. It's hard for people to leave that behind. So then they're gonna bring it all know what the. Do you want me to make you like fucking filet right now? Fuck that noise. Like, just like my dick. And I was like, no, I don't want to and. Get off my case. Why am I dating you? Anyway, never owned gotta get up and three hours. Okay. Who do you want today only? The only person is. A woodworker. Carpenter. No, like a person who just makes canoes out of like raw would that? They found in you know, Brazil when they were in the peace corps. And and it's just a like alone in silent all day long. You know, like Kevin cost. Her message. You know, they're just wistfully. Dreaming of me. All they long. I think you'll find that. Okay. So. Should we move onto dealbreakers? No, you want to go to calls or do you want to dealbreakers time? Do you have time? Yeah. Fine. Do after this did wrong. Oh. No, it's fine. She's really cute. She gave me lunch last time. I went there saying she's adorable. I walked in. She said I'm so sorry to come here. I'm like are you and she's like I brought you lunch. Oh, she's adorable. I love going there. You don't have to dock you sign. I do something. I don't know. Like, I'm really bad with my emails. Everything. Did you see the look of connection there? Just gave awful. I don't reply text messages ever. I love these that my mom just got kinda mad at me everyone. Yeah. I I'm good at calling people though because it's like you want to dedicate your time. Yeah. Started techy. Number sation. Yeah. I know you are one of the say she won't get into text conversations at all. I will not do it a refuse. I do want to ask you later on maybe about the athlete conversation because I met theory about that. Okay. Well, now, I have to go into right athletes. It's not just sort of like, if you're dating a professional athlete outside of like an individual's for like, you know, there's the idea that there's a lot of infidelity which is true in our profession as well. But that. More that it's really hard to be a support constant support system for somebody like home. So, you know, and especially as athletes age, and like that burden would be very hard for me. Maybe some people it's. You know, the right fit. But for me, it would be really hard to be like, it's okay. You lost like just sort of champing, the the I guess sort of dealing with the moods and the high stakes an eight, you know, an aging body potentially. You're talking about an older athlete, not a young gun. I guess I guess I am. I'm forty one. They said. The Olympics who's dying out here. Who's ill? You. But you said that athletes are not great to date. Well, here is my reasoning. I think being an athlete union to be incredibly selfish like the best athletes are incredibly selfish, and you have to think of yourself first. So if there's things that are going on in your friends lives, and like they need you you need to take that seven be like, I can't help you right now. Because like I need to make sure I'm resting and focusing on what I need to do or something comes up you have to drop something and go see that doctor or go see that therapist in like your whole world revolves around what you need to do. Have you had to tell your friends and family this of that need to be selfish? Yeah. Yeah. I think like people along the lot like along the way. Would be dad. Listen here. Brothers sisters cousins. Neighbors. Former friends former neighbors. I think that like I've had really incredible people who've come into my life and who've told me to be selfish. And I am a really like I try to be like a really giving person to a fault. Sometimes we're like due to too much for somebody. And it took like a lot of strength to be like, I can't do that. And just say, no. And it was just me focusing what I needed to do. Yeah. And I think like dating athlete it's like whatever they do has to come first. And like no matter what you will always be not a priority. And it's not because like you're not good enough. It's just because like they can't have it any other way, or they won't be excellent at their job that makes complete sense. And I like to think that activists, exactly. You know, it is. And I think the the one difference is like being I think like acting and doing things that involve like so much emotion. It's so draining and you need to be there like one hundred percent, and you need to put all the work, and you need to like be present to perform on the day that you're supposed to go to work. And I think like in my sport. It was a lot the same. The only difference was that like if I felt tired. I also would be awful. Yeah yet. And it was just like if you're, you know, like, oh, my like left leg is a little sore. And then you'd go out there and all of your leg jumps. And spins would be like we fucking hate you now. And you'd be like, oh my God. I can't do anything. Yeah. I love it. When you talked earlier about like having a group of people that protected you in understood that idea that you have to you know. You know, be take you have to be insular, and the can't sort of, you know, it's it's incredibly difficult to cater to everybody's whims. When they're living different lives. Very very different lives on the first date. He says if I was an will be a giraffe out of here. Why why giraffe I tell you? Why? I'm dying to now first of all vegetarian, and I've always been kinda tall. And so, you know, unlike I like the little pompoms on the head and their ears. Not no not that year's draft before they got the ears in the Tom pumps. They upon palms like spots. I like the long gate why what's the problem with the fucking draft. Dude. What the fuck with UB only judge my fucking giraffe if giraffe. It's just such an. Odd choice immediate what the fuck if I was an animal in my mind like you wanna be like the bald eagle or like you wanna be like a a lion. But I know in reality I'm gonna I'm probably some I'm probably like like an Aardvark or something awful really would've Aardvark is. It's a version of platypus. But I don't know. I think it's in the family is it now there's platypus they don't they don't have any family by died in the war. And I'm only know an art Vert, KOMO what would you be? If I think if I was an animal, I think it'd be something like. Bun and like what if amigo on oddly Anri like you think they're cute because pain and they're standing on one leg. But there suddenly like Pekka. You know, what I think I would be like a swan because Ling beautiful on the out but on surprising. But then see? Yeah. But I'm not really that fuss. What you either? I don't know. I don't know. I need to think about this. Okay. Well, should we are, you know? No quick to defend. Well, I just wanted to be a weird, dude. No, I I have probably feel like. I would like to think of myself as like a I don't know swallow or something like that could dart around and fly, whatever. But probably what I am is like Shetland pony like little tons and grumpy and cute, but stopping. No little argumentative. But you wouldn't expect it right? You're like, they're so cute. Yeah. Sure. Fucking dick. Think about it. I know I would pick. I know if I think about it. I I think I want I want to be something like learned learned fits educate. What? Feel like it's gotta be something conic cute. That's a fucking mess. Maybe an orca. Okay. Do it. You look beautiful, but you know, kind of gnarly. Yeah. Sean put on seals and other baby wails, but you're sort of loyal. You know, sorta. Nobody's perfect. But I don't know. Do you want water or air or land? I would like air. But it's all I've known. Maybe I don't know. I kind of feel like you're more cat. I feel like you're panther. I yeah. I feel like you're. Yeah. You might be like you might be allying maybe dream animal. Do you know I'm afraid of birds, and I always want like I think of like, oh, what would it be like, I always go to Byrd. I, but I'm like, no, I don't like wave a bird say move too quickly. Okay. But was there early childhood trauma one time I went to the jersey or yes, I went to the jersey shore because we're east coasters originally. Now, I'm like west coast. I know I know I felt like that was a little bit of a dig. But not real, but sort of. Yeah. Because you say that I don't able will die Grassley. Okay. Okay. So I so sure sure you're nine years old. I'm having a funnel cake a funnel cake. Your parents finally bought you a funnel kick. Or they were like, here's you know. Dollar fifty go buy whatever you'd like know. And you're like, I'm not kidding hotdog. I'm getting today. I only get a funnel kid wants year. Then you're like, I'm waiting in line for this funnel cake. They make this hot pipe in funnel cake covered in powdered sugar. And you're like, yes, I never get sweets. This is going to be awesome. The best of your life. I'm gonna wait. It's too hot right now. Oh Berman just a little bit. Okay. I'm going to take down to the beach. Join everybody else. Maybe your parents didn't leave you alone at nine who knows new down at the beach. Right. And my mom says, oh, Adam come here. Can you help me with this? And I say, yeah, I put the funnel cake. Dow, I would you do that because I'm nine and from Pennsylvania. But this is your cake. I was just letting it rest. What you were not prepared for the real world. I wasn't for New Jersey. I put down my final k can. Yeah. I go to help my mom, and my and I put it down next to one of my younger siblings. Who was like I'm going to have a piece of it. And I was like sure that's nice of you. I wouldn't have done that. So they have one piece, and then all of a sudden, maybe at least three thousand seagulls come in start attacking our whole family and our funnel cake, and I had gotten a funnel cake, and one of my other siblings got a funnel cake. So they were holding. There's all the Segel's came. They dropped there's on the sand. All the eagles were eating both funnel cakes in like flapping. In like, we were getting hit by the flaps of the wings. I got it was terrifying. Gold bit. Yeah. You were bit. Well, didn't really break skin. Was sounds more dramatic. But but it was Cegled, man. That's fucking offered. Each gawky like predicted the future they're going to take over this shit. I think I'm so frayed of birds like I have I just don't I can't. I can't do it. All right. But you don't wish you could fly. I do I want all of the qualities of a bird except for being disgusting. Yeah. Like little like, little mites. Crawling all over you. Yeah. Like moving your head to fast or having sort of waterproof feathers. So nothing can never like actually penetrate means like that's a you know, that's eight years of bird grime. Sim-? Are you a Birdman not at all? I'm actually afraid of birds. I completely agree with everything you're saying, but I love a lot about them. Like, I think they're beautiful. I love to hear them. But get the fuck away from me, we'll potato also I know I'm rambling on. But it's also because we don't have that power that there's like those fuckers are gonna shit on me. It's like sort of fear of the unknown a little bit. Like like, the like even a little bird has the power to shit on me. Everyone has the power to shit on you. What? Get the fuck. He were not sitting on me today, sir. May be list. You're fucking plastic. Coated -partment. Fook adhere. Rito? Now. I guest today is Adam Scott, and he's so fucking brilliant. Any also weirdly looks like Tom Cruise right now. Although he's not staring at me intensely in the is as though we wish he would I will take it. And I will start you intensely in the is like Tom Cruise. You just shifted. Did. I. Okay. We're doing it, Anna. I just wanna tell you Kate's on. This is great. I wouldn't know Tom Cruise level you Anna. And I wouldn't crack them I know to call, you know, Tom Cruise Anna yet. I love your work. Thank you. I'd love making movies. Yeah. I know. And I love stunts. He will. You're really good at them, Tom. Thank you necessary for you to complement me. But I accept. Oh, good. Good. Good. What's go? Okay. Oh, oh, jeez. My little ole for you or Tom. I don't I don't think of age in terms of years age has to do with experience and with. Going to the limit and doing I love going to the limit. Let's go let's do it. But we're where's the limit though? The limit is where you put it. What about the atmosphere? The atmosphere is where the ceiling is and the ceiling does not exist. God, you're so smart. Thank you, Tom. God years, you have much charisma Tom Cruise fucking cool. Indeed. I'm sorry. I didn't mean swearing, Freddie. You tom. That's fine. Okay. I swore in magnolia. Hey, is it true that you? That you like to take dates on private planes to Rome. I take dates wherever the date wants to go. It's a private plane. Great of his top of the Eiffel tower. Oh, hopeful guy amazing the world is ours. Is there any way that? I could ask you out on a date and. I thought that's what this was. Well, where where would like just? Yep. This is a day where where are we gonna go where you? He mean fucking Warner Brothers Warner Brothers. But before you know, it will be anywhere. You want to be? It's all in the mind. Oh by okay. In the mind. I've always wanted to see those small ponies in magnolia Mongolia, Mongolia, close your eyes, you see the small pony C Mongolia, open your eyes hurt. Exactly. Tight. Oh my God. Tom. I have to tell you. I'm forty. Indeed. I know the age doesn't it's not a construct for you. It is a construct that I don't pay attention to that. That is don't acknowledge it. Tom cruise. So cool so being raised in the Cruz family. Yes, was everyone sort of a fan of momentum or mental focus and laser focus. Big fans. Charging ahead making count. Making what count everything eastep is a step towards the counting of further steps in your future. Let's go. Okay, tom. But how would you like to our listeners? What advice would you give for them to like succeed? Like you have. The horizon is behind you. The the you mean the sun brise part or the horizon. Is what you make it. And it's behind you. I see I see I see. So that makes sense does. But does that mean that like conflict is conflict is conflict is conflict is something that you see if you want to see it and you swerve and you avoid it, and it's gone conflict. Again is an abstract apparition. It's in the mind. Not to be like, you know, seems like you're not following devils at Vic short. What do you think about I don't know global warming? I mean, do you. Believe that global warming. Yeah. I guess that's my question. I know this isn't a hard hitting. Absolutely. I feel like it's Anna, right? Yeah. I feel like global warming again. A write a con. For. That's right. A construct. And if you acknowledge it, it's there if you don't acknowledge it, it's not there. It's in your mind. Can I ask you Tom do Mr. Cruz, whatever you prefer? I don't know whatever you prefer. It's all in your mind. What what do you believe exists exists? Yes. What exists? Movies. Yeah. Things that go really fast. Cars and jets and movies that go really fast. Tom. Do you believe in love? Yes. I love that moves quickly from one place to another. Tom do you like Moscow? I love Moscow on the Hudson. Starring Robin Williams. Terrific movie move very fast big fan. Do you like Australia the movie Australia's during Hugh Jackman, Nicole Kidman big fan? Baas Lerman, brilliant filmmaker move very fast. What's your favorite animal? Animal starring rob Schneider. Two thousand one terrific movie. Very talented, man. Tom. What's your sign? Again. Do I dunno signs starring Mel Gibson? Joaquin Phoenix two thousand two terrific movie. Loved it move, very fast m night Shyamalan. Tom. What's your favorite restaurant? Restaurant. Starring Ryan Reynolds. And was there. Is there and on a ferris terrific movie waiting waiting starring Ryan Reynolds in non affairs two thousand? Hey, two thousand two thousand three count. That's me. I'm Ana you've even call me. I didn't want to correct. Those two. Those to those two different people. Thank you so much for being near my podcast. It's truly it's it is it's humbling can you think of the name of a movie that starts with an h. No. On it. You'd have to give me more than that. And Tom what is like what what's the thing that you love most about movie making? I love the power when you're in front of the camera. There you feel it. It's magic the moment. That camera turns on everything matters because you're spending time you're spending money. Everything matters. Gotta be sharp laser focus. Let's go. Okay. Batom let's say in, you know, two hundred thousand years from now will movies matter. Absolutely two hundred thousand years from now, everything will matter just as everything matters. Now, it's equal. It's a flat plain that we're moving on. So everything do you time. I believe in time. I believe in time. And I believe in time after time starring Christopher Reeve from nineteen Eighty-one. Terrific movie. Tom what what are the movies that have influ influenced you, I am influenced by every single movie ever made the altar? Give us like maybe three of your tops. My my favorite movie of all time. Yeah. Deuce bigalow? Male gigolo as you. Big rub. Snyder fame deuce Bigalow? Male gigolo. Second very funny. Very very funny. I'm a big fan of jokes. This movie is packed full of jokes. I don't know if you know this, but they made a sequel to that movie, deuce Bigalow? Male gigolo, two part two. Oh. European gigolo? That's exactly what I meant. I'm never wrong. But Lee, Tom, what is your two two more questions? Thank you so much for your time. Thank you knew. You're just incredible. It's it's a huge honor to have you. It's an honor to be here on. Thank you for same name. Well, now, it's all been corrected. I had you split into two different people who looked at xactly the same had the same career have you ever focused so hard that. You're you're you're plasma television exploded just by looking at it. Well. No. But I think the probably could if I really think anyone if they set their mind to take good make anything explode with their mind. Now. Would you mind doing a little bit of an improv thing? Sure. Okay. You're on the red carpet. Okay. Are are you an interviewer? Yes. Heather, hey, Heather, Heather, Heather my gosh. Thank you so much for stopping by Bj. It's so good to see you wearing oh. Night. Oh, this is just Ryan. But but who are you wearing that's more important. I'm wearing reformation. Oh my gosh. Looks incredible. Congratulations on everything. I mean, you're writer your factor. Your actress you've been around for a long long time fuck off as a very very long time. Heather do you wanna tell us about any of the work that you've had done? You know, I haven't had any done yet. But I might get some done. But you've obviously had a lot. Well. Hoping to have the really fake. Do you don't? But so we have I have a question to ask you, how do you feel about the metoo movement? Isn't it wonderful that women are in powering themselves? I love it. You do what do you love about it because women are finally speaking their truth and people are listening, and we're like a group it doesn't feel like a one poor woman's out there getting attacked by a bunch of people like she's crazy. It's like all the women are going. This is happening everywhere. It's it's APPA democ we need to stop. It's pretty bad us talking about a lot of sexual harassment. I've gone through a recently. Okay. Yeah. Well, if you wanna give a shout out. Harassers. Yeah. I would be like totally. Anyway, I I you you fucking stunning tonight q base. And and I really love what you're standing up for and standing taller for. And when you're looking at me with those is it feels like you kinda hate me, really know, I just feel sorry for you base. Hey, but. Well, you just seem like your life seems kind of shallow and sort of like sad. I can I really quickly but for in cats ending on can I tell you? Yeah. I wanna tell you. I am fucking sat. Really? Yeah. Seems like a hard job. It is. Yeah. Here's the thing. No, inviting me. I wanted to. I mean, I don't know. Anyway, we can do this later your phone number. Sure base. I have some good therapy people. I can refer you to know why do that wanna talk to you? Sure. Maybe after the Feigen show. Sure. Sure bay. Sure, you're adorable though, you're Honey kissed or whatever that is Honey, whatever Honey something your Honey, Tim breasts, are I just want you to start buttoning your buttons. You do. Yes. I will. Oh, she's the where I don't know interview person. Heather maybe you should do that to me one. Let's roll reverse noxious report days. Okay. Okay. Okay. So how did you get your own TV show? Cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How can I be like you? Oh, well, pretty oh. Patching up had to do. Yeah. Be famous. Tell me what you well. It's sort of a weird long process. But but yeah, having sex with right now. On in your love. Life was Morris. But but yeah, me too movement who sexually harassed you in this business. You really struggled a lot. Yeah. Risen above adversity to get to where you are today. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks. Oh my gosh. This is such a great night here until like speaking out and like you look so good. What do you do for your workout routine? Oh, thanks. Well, what do I do? I take a fucking shit ton of Adderall, really. Yeah. I hear. Yes. Good. Right. So fucking good really keeps me boosted book recently about a girl that do a lot of Atarot. Oh, you did. Oh, that's I like books about she was a fashion Easter who just had a eating disorder and took a lot of Outtara all my. Passionately says. Anyway, God it's off. Love your work, and I would love to private home phone number. Oh, you got your head. It's the three four five nine eight three six because I just wanna be you. And I have to. I have to tell you you have the most fucking amazing is thank you. Okay. So I guess of I'm being shuffled. Yeah. No. Thanks. Now. Everything I've done. Yeah. We got so overwhelmed backstage at the Emmys that I just went into the bathroom, and I just went to a bathroom stall close the door. And I just like I just stood there. Just like. Okay. So it was really. Yes. Bill. I are you in there. Yes. Hey, it's. I'm your managers, and it was you really shouldn't be in the. Now. It but just wanna know going to emerge. Yes. Can I just have a moment of courses? It ruins. Glories coming up, and I was sent in here to make sure that different enough like toilet paper. No. I'm doing that. I'm standing. Hand sanitizer. Fine. I just wanted to be left alone. Looks like you're sitting down from my angle here. Your shoes are pointed towards the door. I don't know how you sit on toilets. But I'm standing up and just I'm trying to calm myself down. Totally totally get it really shouldn't be in the men's room like people. Listen, I told everyone out there that Bill. Let me go talk to. He said you told everyone out there that Bill needs a moment. And you. I locked the door had security lock in here. Because I said Bill. For him. This looks really bad. Never again. Sara, I need to out any. Until you come. Okay. Okay. Okay. Fine. I mean, intern or this. There's a line and here there's you locked the door with all these other guys. Sorry, I'm sorry. Pardon me. These guys clearly wanna leave Tina most handsome. That's Michael Douglas. Say that. That's really. Bill your categories. I know you think you might win. We came all the way here. Face you're gonna make if you win lose. The thing that I came so low and they're like, I'm you're by yourself. Okay. Weird. So you're just going to sit here by your okay? So we come to a close don't do. New improv. I'm going to be what do they call them the fillers? I'm gonna be next you come on. Please. This new character have to think of who she is. Valerie. Jensen? Valerie Jensen excuse me. Excuse me. Sorry. Sorry. Excuse me. I know. I love I love the commercial breaks. My fourth year being here. Good. Vow. I vowel and Bill for the thing that. Shake hands or not really. That's really nice. Are you? So you does your fourth year being a what's the technical term? Do you call seat filler? Or is there like a union ever now on because I love it? I get invited every year. And yeah, I always get really get seats. Will they pay you to put you in the seed? So they probably. Probably get good seats, right? Talked. I got. Bills fucking dick. He's not gonna win who do you? Usually who also you sat next to maryl- maryl-. Making a weird. Your eyes are. Always talk about it, but Merrill. They're all here, Sandra. Oh, yeah. I mean, I pretty much go to the Oscars Emmy's and people's. To nitpick you right to sit in the seats. Hey stumping. That's your job. Right. And just want to say that. I really wish you the best of luck. Okay. Cool. Thanks and. But I do I do, and you know, if you have to about the room, I can just get right on in there. If you want or somebody else can like cool, Philly feel whatever are you nervous? Like do. You have a list. I'm gonna win. Appreciate it didn't make a list. How remember if you win when you, but if you win what are you going to do? Do you ever all your agents names? And I don't think. I don't think. Actually, he should make like big political statement. Looks like that's like extant Lizama passion. You know, if you were going to say what the fuck is beyond space and how as humans can attempt to grasp the idea of Infinity. So that's pretty provocative is it. I feel like it's vague. That's what makes it provocative. Thank you. 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Anna Faris Is Unqualified