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466 The Four Sacred Gifts; Indigenous Wisdom Shared by Author Anita Sanchez
"Mindfulness mode four hundred sixty six. We get a choice every moment of every day to either good medicine or bad medicine and good good medicine is really about welcome to mindfulness mode. I'm Bruce Langford host and creator of the mindfulness mode podcast so glad glad to have you with us today. I have an author that you'll hear. You'll hear that I get really excited about her work. Her book is phenomenal. Manala and I just really felt that it was such a clear way to understand some of the biggest issues we're dealing with today shame team and forgiveness but more about that in a minute I want you to have my waves of content guided meditation mindful tribe. It'll help you be more focused and have a better sense of calm in your life. You'll feel more contented and more peaceful. This meditation is yours mindful tribe tribe free at mindfulness mode dot com forward slash waves of content so I hope you enjoy that so now without further do sit back relax and enjoy today's episode with the Wonderful Anita Sanchez mindful tribe. I've just finished reading a book that impacted me in so so many ways I mean it was such a beautifully written book. It was so much about forgiveness. It was about shame it it was about so many things community and this book is written by a Brilliant Wise Generous Wolman woman who I have with me right here. Today I have the wonderful author Anita Sanchez. PhD Anita are you in mindfulness this mode today I am totally present. It feels so good to be here and to be a conversation with you. Finally that's great and you you know what when you read a book that impacts you and then you know you're going to be spending time with author. I mean that is an absolute gift. It really is and and I'm. I'm just so thrilled. Tell us what mindfulness means to you and Nita Yup mindfulness to me is about being present but let me explain explain it also in an indigenous way so in addition to sway. We get a choice every moment of every day to be there. Good medicine or bad medicine and good medicine is really about the mindfulness is basically saying that it's anyone or anything can help make this happen and it's putting get alignment the spiritual mental emotional and physical and when that is in alignment one is truly present able able to open heart mind body. Everything is present to what is so instead of the the crazy mind going off into pass into the future. We're allies have clarity in here in the living right now now anita. I talked about the book. I don't know if I mentioned the name of it is the four sacred gifts and the subtitle is indigenous wisdom for modern times and yeah such a wonderful book. You can check it out at four four sacred gifts dot com mindful tribe just going to share a little bit more about you Anita Anita Sanchez. PhD As tack and and Mexican American is a transformational leadership consultant. She's a speaker a coach and author of this book that I've been talking about Oh and she bridges indigenous teachings with the latest science to Inspire and equip women and men to enjoy meaningful full empower full lives and careers so one of the things that you do. Is You define indigenous so let's start there. Let's talk because your definition of indigenous indigenous really is everyone. All human beings are indigenous because we all are from the Earth every element innocence of of the Earth Water the stars so we are all indigenous but when I say indigenous in the context of today I'm talking about human beings people bowl who have stayed connection to the traditions to the connection to the earth through ceremonies dance through their oral history so that that that connection has not been lost whereas for many of us who are come from the earth bills cultural knowing that original original knowledge there was a there was a separation from it so that's when we talk about indigenous people were really talking about people nations Sion's and tribes all over the world who have kept that connection to the Earth your book the four sacred gifts outlines these four gifts this and the first one and has such a powerful gift is the power to forgive the unforgivable and at first of course when I started hardy to read the book I thought well what does that really mean the unforgivable and of course it wasn't long before I understood what it meant but maybe you can tell us what what does it mean. Forgive the on forgivable. The unforgivable is something that's fairly large for people so it's hard to define it for a particular person because sometimes it's accumulation of little hurts and mistreatments that become the big unforgivable but when I was talking about the big unforgivable I was thinking about some some of the things that pretty much every human being across all different cultures around the world will say his unforgivable by abuse this sexual abuse incest or the killing the annihilation of whole groups of people which was true for most many indigenous most people around the world it was about a radical us and they forgot that we were seat so they tried to bury us but as the saying goes we're seed so we remain so so that's when you think about those things that the hurt and mistreatment is so big so deep that each feels the allusion is as if it is unforgivable doubt certainly is in here in Canada. I know that it's just devastating to think of how we have treated indigent indigent people it's just so shameful and so sad and but it isn't just in Canada of course I mean it's it's it's it's not but it it just it hurts so much nothing you're but we you all are in the process what I see from the outside from us that a whole row that read that pathway to forgiveness because you have as a country acknowledged unlike in the US we haven't done a formal acknowledgement knowledge that you've acknowledged what happened the taking of sacred lands the taking of a water the killing of people putting people in boarding schools and it the let's go on in that list is actually pretty true for us as well only you all have acknowledged it and then you have actually put in place now education of all people in Canada but starting in elementary school about what is the true history rather than washing it over as most nations and countries due to only show the viewpoint of who is so called the winner of whatever the war whatever it was so it's very powerful because as I talked to my brothers and sisters of various tribes from Canada they shared with us you know the great works it. It still needs to happen but also have a different kind of lightness awareness ability to act because they have a whole whole nation that they are part of that has acknowledged what has been and it's not just past tense which in these two touche's that exist today day embedded in there is the favouritism is the bias conscious and unconscious bias towards the mainstream people versus the people who had already been there who had cared for the land and cared for each other yeah so true. Why should you forgive? That's one of the questions did you ask and I absolutely loved the answer because it gives you true freedom to help create positive change and that's not all. Let's talk more about why we should forgive its import. What I've found Bruce though is that it's hard for people to take in end the softest part of the year hearing in their mind and their heart why should do this? I'd like to percents what forgiveness is not because people mistake that and that's why they go oh I can't do this. Forgiveness doesn't mean that you forgot. Forgiveness doesn't mean that you don't seek justice to change systems that structure so that pain pain that hurt that mistreatment doesn't happen again. Forgiveness doesn't mean you're week or beach praying a whole group of people forgiveness as you mentioned it is a path to freedom is what I found is. The pathway not only to freedom is the freedom to find out and discover and live in a way that you truly unconditionally can love yourself. I never knew that hurts. Mistreatments unforgivable would stop me from being able to be a whole human and being enjoy of being who I am. What forgiveness allows you to take off all the way the heaviness the energy that we use? We only have so much energy every day that I was using in holding onto the upset the resentment of what happened and didn't happen happen in my life. Due to the incest that was part of my life from age four to thirteen or the murder of my father based on race is why he was killed taken for a black man back in the mid sixties and what happens is when you carry you that anger that resentment that Energy Nelson Mandela said it doesn't do anything to the person you're directed or the group of people it eats at you and so I hi actually came to a place in my teens and early twenties where I used to tell people or my well pain is so deep it big and my well joy is so small and that's a distortion. That's a lie that is the lie of the illusion of pain in her mistreatment new think that's all there is an worse Bruce Bruce worst of all is that you get so identified with the pain and hurt that you think that it's your identity and that is so untrue and when I could start feeling that out because of using the various skits why could start feeling that way. I began to discover that even though that my story are some things that many people will have never extended oh my gosh. How could you forgive that just unthinkable? It's not at all because what I realize is I put down the arm or when I put down this notion of separation I realize all the good things that were present present that I couldn't be present two because I was storing it in all the anger in the fight and so when I began to let that go more and more more of love for myself of the freedom and ability to be with other people and other beings all the teachers that I got as a child or my grandmother Hi there my mother than digital about us being one in connection began to fill my life and oh my Gosh I you come to a plate wait. Why did any way that you don't want any of these horrible things happening to other people however I also would never change my life because of the strength I think the post traumatic growth that I experienced from having gone through that so it's not at all idolizing the pain and mistreatment mm-hmm we need to stop there and there's movement all of the world to stop the mistreatment of women and girls and stop the racism and all of that but I am saying is that there's always a choice in the choices to get sacked in spiral downward in that also for all of is here is the choice of possibility to move move towards resilience towards growth towards ability to be president in the world in a way an understanding that gives you even then more ability to move forward free of a lot of fears because you've gone through such a process of letting go and forgiving? I loved how you you went through this step by step. How do you forgive here a ways? This is how I did it. This is how you can do it and you said you know it can take a long longtime or it can take an instant. You can simply decide just like that. I'm going to forgive this person and it can just take an instant. I mean that's incredible edible. It's it's true I am both to an I learn to hold open as I helped create the Grayson space for other people to empower themselves salves to to take to make choices that it could be any of those. I have a story All shorten it but I think is an important one so hard of the healing the forgiveness parts of it happened very quickly but one of them that took longer was the murder of my father. He worked in a steel mill. He get very dark in the summer are in one seven. He was also an alcoholic so one summer after work. He went to get his beer before he came home. He didn't know earlier that day of black men and white men were having an argument so while he sat there drinking his beer the white man returning just saw his profile and shot several bullets who is heading killed on the spot. Will I mean that's terrific. If it comes thirteen I had six brothers and sisters were from age nine to nineteen my mother seventh grade education and she always worked all the time but at that point you know I remember remember her ever not working to put us all through private school and just doing the best she could for all of us in education be Keelan but what happened the week after that was enough for anyone especially thirteen year old too just like what do I do with that but the year week after my father's murder a white woman and a young white boy who somewhere somewhere around my age came to the door and I was by my mother and she identified herself as the wife and the son of the man who murdered my father will you could imagine agent. I could feel my mom. She was a very solid short woman but very solid. I could feel her shaking. I was just and then women that I had to tell you Mrs Sanchez my husband was a good man. He never would have killed your husband. If he knew he was Mexican and native American he thought he was black and she went on to start saying bad things about black people and I remember Merav shaking even more and she's finally shouted at her stop. You don't even know what you're saying. Don't even know what you're teaching your son I want you to I know that I'm going to try really hard to pay for your soul that you get off my porch and that night my mom said something that forever or a wise woman wisdom it doesn't have anything to do with age education through through what we know that for mindfulness right and she sat a six kids down and she said this you need to understand a white man murdered your father not the white race I will say at one more time and I will not say it again. A white man barter her father not the white race and then she opened the Kansas City newspaper where I grew up in Missouri and she showed a picture that was my father laying on bar four with blood around his head and she's now this this you this is racism. This is in the newspaper would ever a person of color whenever a black man you know Asian native American. She didn't say for color was an attorney back then she she made all the debris. If that something violent has gone up in the paper full but if a white person some him they never have that because they treat them with dignity knitting respect like a human being that we have to change and then it took years neatly I went to school college. At Sixteen I started sorry working corporations in my mid twenties and in rooms doing diversity inclusion we're hearing white men and women who talked about their parents teaching them that they were better than people of color but they also said they loved their parents but they were not they do not believe that and they were delivering their life in a different way and what happened to me. Bruce is that dream of that day that happening lived in me for many any many years I started having that dream again of a white woman and her son only everything in here everything word for word but I couldn't see the white voice his face he was gone it was really creepy and then over time with hearing incorporations the circles of white men and women's sharing what what they have been taught in that they were releasing and creating something new allow me to then one day had that night a dream where I could see the young boy space. I mean to this day. If I were to meet this man I would know who he was and what I I hope for him is that he had a good life. 'cause what about thirteen year old Anita didn't understand because she was so faint pilled with pain and suffering. Was that that summer day I lost my father but that's summer day. Young white boy lost his father doing grew up knowing his father was a murder and and today if I knew what I knew back then I would open the door and said come in. Let's talk. It can't take a lot of time to heal and it's worth it and it can be a snap where with a practice you you could just release things not pretending not doing a mind thing. We'll I'm going to act as if you truly you can release it. All of it is possible. It requires your your choice you choosing consciously are and are unconsciously you could be making those choices and you will be rewarded with avarice and that's just so wonderful and you are wonderful storyteller. I love the story about how you are fighting this whole thing about writing your doctorate paper and and you're just fighting it fighting fighting it and then you just you just they said you know to what was it grandfather and grandmother how some people would call it God mccown God yeah and you said if you want me to write this send. What did you say? Send me a sign so yeah send me aside. Tell us this man slam the door. All while think of my mother would just be horrified cheered me cursing grandma GRANDPA. They're like that and when I looked out these big windows in my house an eagle flew by so I put my hands on my hips and I said okay all right every morning by get up at five o'clock to go the bathroom all come out here. Look out the windows and if the so you don't flies by that I'll go downstairs and write for three hours okay so we took three a little over three months. Every day. I went out and darn if there wasn't an eagle that fly fly. That's not a usual occurrence fly and worst of all bruce is so I would go down and right for three hours and then some mornings I come up at eight o'clock side right provide eight come up to make my breakfast and I sit down and another Darn Eagle would fly back by the window and I have to go back downstairs and write for another three hours but what magic so many different things one is that you know they're other beings that that we're not necessarily taught indigenous people. I think other people are too that they make the connection you know the trees are there for the water. Is there for for us. The four legged the wing and all were all connected where all our precious relations were all connected but ben is when I realized that there had been and for some time the eagles are part of helpers to me and they wanted this book written because minding my phd they wanted noted that down and it was important for me to be able to move into some of the places CEOS of Fortune one hundred corporations in places to have that was important but I only could have happened because of the eagles the eagles every day and I was true to my word that's really important. They helped me every day to get that and in your early days you wore armor. You described it as your illusion of separateness armor Tillerson vote what because all that I heard that happened to me as a trial with the rapes and stuff and then with the murder of my father and then go on. I'm a Latina Azteca second woman young girl. All that stuff is that I started putting our rouce I was going to say no. One's GonNa hurt me. I'm GonNa go through life on my own. I'm GonNa do anyway you know and I just put up this armor just really tough barely smiling and stuff and what I found when I went away to the University of Colorado at age sixteen the action was seventeen. The first year was in Missouri other all these indigenous people there I start connecting them and then all these white folks and Mexican Americans and I just my community just kept getting bigger and they kept saying me as a leader and so they'd have me speak for them. In the MIC. I've never had trouble speaking in front of people so and Iran ramp pursued by they were seeing all these thing in me that there was this thing in my mind that was saying I'm a fraud imagined other people that are listening to said they have of those most like Oh. This isn't true they. You know I'm just they don't see the real need it will see all of me but what it happened by being seen by others helped me to start lowering this armor and lowering and lowering it to where it allowed and I realized I kept the bad stuff out at least a lot of it but I was keeping out the good stuff that armor that we build in our mind are really literally build. Well it keeps out the good stuff and one can't live like that. We need each other. There's what I say what the elders taught me over the years is that human beings can have the condition of being lonely human beings are never we're never locked and when that finally realization should sunk in I am never alone. I have the water that's going through. That's nourishing me and the food earth the birds the trees providing shade then then I have my mother my father my brothers my sisters my friends there. Virtually we don't do anything alone. We are always connected. It is the mind that state of loneliness and so we can train it being my focus trainer so we don't fall down into that but can come back to the abundance that we're part of so that we can come back to knowing what we need not take too much because we can be sufficient to that seven generations out. We'll have plenty for everyone so that armor came down really from the gift of unity is others wanting to be joining in Dan and it looks like from the outside being their leader their student body president like I was but it over time I actually dropped further and further or giving accepting them giving to them being in flow that debt really then I realized Oh my gosh the power our really connecting collaborating with people when you don't have armor up on my gosh there's so much energy so many solutions that were able to cremate folklore each other's wives for the larger communities lives. Both I'm talking about for the Community of human beings as well as the other beings are right yeah. Oh Yeah I just love how you're able to communicate all of this as we talk but also in the book and one of the things is that you learned from the time you're young child was how to listen with the softest part of your ear and you've already alluded you did that. Tell us what that really needs will first of all it means you have to shut your mouth so we learned very little from my second grandmother about listening so it was like there is nothing come out of your mouth and then it's truly being present with the soft partier the south is part of your heart so what that it means what happens and she didn't use this language as a little girl but that you were present to the actual being nasty aliveness somebody else or something else that they have made or what is part of their being that you don't have to compete with. I don't have to sound off because I am present to what they are. So the lesson one of the lessons she taught me in sharing this because I love is bring my grandmother back who are lost in the sixties physically lost but she's always been around at aged for my little sister who then was prop was only about two over two and my older sister who's a couple of years older than me. We were staying at our home and early one morning morning on a Saturday morning. She got us up. It was still dark. Got Us a win outside with summertime and we were by her garden and it was August so the sunflowers were out big time but she had a stand there and as the sun rose we know talking we just faced with sunfire was and every hour that day she stopped whatever we were doing and we'd go over to the sunflower and we'd move with the sunflower in silence and just be there present to the sunflower so by the end of the day you can imagine we had turned always looking toward the sun and then the sunset and being present to and Oh my gosh here's a woman who had no formal education indigenous woman that to this day I use the lessons of being present to one with even in darkness turning towards the light that I've used in my carpet work in my community work all over the world it. She embedded that in the I felt like a cellular way those lessons which all of us can get we have inches or not having a second grandmother win. We can be present like that listening with the softest art of our ears. We are able to not only share here what is being exchanged but even in the silence in between which is to say you can hear the music between the words and Bruce to this day when people hard illicit will it. Does it takes practice to that you can be quiet to the calm your mind to be present truly in wanting to be there for another being but I'll tell you once you start doing da you hunger for it like I hunger for being silence listening with US office part of my ear because it's another level of intimacy and connection that can happen in a second between a child and a parent between coworkers you know between in the community just going by total stranger and that being present to them if they have words or not worse it's so powerful it helps you not forget that we truly are one who of wife not to world's not a develop world undeveloped world not all these different we are one coupe of life and he hit years like giving to listen to the other beings. We are one hoop of life. I just love that four sacred gifts dot com mindful tribe. You really need to check this out and you can check out the facebook place where you'll find Anita Anita Sanchez. PhD The HD on facebook and twitter Dr Anita Sanchez now Anita another one of the things you talked about in your book is is a well of joy and a well of pain and how are you dealing with this. What is a well of joy? What is a well of pain? Let's talk about well. I think that's the the healing process that we all need to do on a daily basis. It's not a one time event like love the shot like me so I never ever have to suffer now. The healing process is the process and so what happens over time you just realize that okay. I'm suffering right now. Something thing happen in than I have choice about and it's not about denying it or pushing down because it'll come out some other way. It's really looking at it putting in the light seeing it before Ford is and what I call a positive balance so I'm always look so. What's the learning here? What do I have to be grateful for things? The eldest told us you know like be careful. Full of what you think be careful what you say because once you have that you can't take it back what you can put out a new so I'm always when the suffering or pain or a healing these happen acknowledged it because I don't want to just pretend like look at it see it and then what is the learning here in what's to be grateful for and so that well of pain that I used to think the illusion that was all my life and there was this little bitty has really totally opposite is a very small malwal pain that I continue to release that and the well of joy is huge. Let me also say this like the seasons seasons like the day tonight. Things are shifting and changing all the time so it's not about trying to hang onto at specific acidic either God when I was eighteen or I get joy when I first learned whatever it is is leading that too because that hanging on is preventing Banou from coming to so that's that's what I'm talking about in being taught in having my learning to understanding more deeper that we hold onto all that so as thought leaders as leaders of our own lives talking necessarily organizationally or anything or even in the family we are that that we get to hold onto all of this. We get to decide how we want to live our life and so I leave my life as an the digits for standing -able harmony enjoy either is when we pay attention to our relationship the human beings to Letter Ping's nature and to spirit that is living as a whole human being and that is what can bring harmony because collectively we come together we get to just it's expansive in 'em. Is it really well really amazing so Anita. Do you have a story about bullying that you can share with us where mindfulness maybe would have made a difference. Yes I can at all just a here so many bowling bowling stories working with the clients both in business as well as working with young people in high schools and things but I will share one of mine which is some young girl I love and I still do unlawful to read a going to the museums and libraries with some sort of my escape from some of the traumatic stuff stuff that was happening in my my childhood and I remember going to the library and looking different being Mexican American and native American. I remember having my books. Check out in a few kids came by and I it was not an accident. They literally pushed me down and of course I was upset. I was fairly young. I think I must have been around eight eight and what I remember as I was trying to not cry and pick up in all sorts of messages in me like I should know better why all these messages critical the critical self about what I could have done and all of a sudden there's hands there and it's the librarian who is helping me pick up the books but I remember her taking her hand under my Chin and just lifting up just the slightest and smiling at me never said anything and I felt like this woman was practicing mindfulness being presidency and for a moment I wish it was I wish I could have practiced more but for that moment I could feel in the presence of someone else being really present to another being in carrying that you don't need a lot of words words but I also had who's able to connect to myself that this was not my fault and that I'm not alone own and that she was there so I think that's one of the areas where I felt bad mindfulness. Well it was president and she helped show me that again to go there because that was part of my teaching for my grandmother my mom to be able to do that but when you're in the midst of the something bad happening wing it can be especially as a young person difficult to do but they are taking a breath being present to the good things things that were around me which in this case was the was the librarian in other cases was being around and seeing birds the trees to I'd like rebound the and reconnect me too that this isn't my whole life my whole story. This is a bullying and being mindful can help me be better better about where I am and how I am and how I wish to be in the world that is a beautiful story and speaking of birds. I know the red cardinal is a bird that you mentioned in the book you talked about Nico and story about Nico in the turtle you brought up is a sacred symbol. Can you tell us about the turtle in the Red Cardinal and their significance was in the gift of hope mom both my sons had blessing ways not the same as a baptism at all but it's is basically from a tribe getting really initiated connected a clear ceremony of you belong and so at a box came in a ceremony for my youngest one in my youngest one Nikko was only twenty months old at the time and who's just a beautiful ceremony Emoji and he had me take off Nikko's little shirt because he had the earth and Nikko he was about to start painting his body and Nikko pushed. There's just hanaway and put his little fingers into the earth the powder and begin painting his own body Eve never seen this before and Eddie's face. Is it hard faces of the thirteen of us. A circle were just like mesmerized this little child could do this and then Eddie set. I set him down on the floor at Eddie gave to him Eddie not only being the longest over thirty years of leader on the Sundance for the people he also made flutes and so we had made this flute for Nico and at the top of the was at the end of it was this little turtle and at the place where you would blow hello into the food was this carnal and he explained to Nikko that she was this little turtle and that the cardinal would forever be there for or him watching over and that what nickel needed to understand even as this little turtle that everything mattered every rethought in every step no matter how small it was was important and that he was sacred and so I we still hold that had that flute loot when he finally finished his college moved his own place. I'll take that but it was so very powerful and I want to close. The stories of the cardinal is so important written power power every animal. Every creature is sacred but it's not that we worship the animals are the beings is the characteristics of them that we know we could emulate that they're teaching us and we're teaching them that we're all connected but at the end of that Eddie sat down and began drumming and chanting and my son who's five and a half years older soon within about seven six or seven at the time sitting next to Eddie and Nico Starts Stance and Bruce the way he was dancing. It's not like a twenty month old like a dance. It was powerful in Nikko said I could here him say Eddie. How does he know at is he not do that and Eddie said Alex the ancestors are with your brother? The ancestors are with you. They ancestors are with all of us. We only need to remember Nikko Remembers Remembers. I love that story while and I loved the book for Sacred Gifts at for sacred gifts dot com Anita. This has been amazing as we move forward. I want to ask you five quick answer questions so just thirty second answers would be perfect. Here's the first question I need to tell us who is one person who has influenced mindfulness in your life. Yes well right now. I'm thinking of Eddie Box Fox the story I just told you about ready could be silent. Eddie could be present to where he could turn and see this just the little point to the light on a leaf on Aspen tree and the joy that that brought by being present beautiful. How is mindfulness affected your emotions anita huge because emotions part of the thing about emotions is there again they make it seem like that's all there is in that they could go on and on and all all this whereas I understand that emotions are part of being a human being but just like anything they're meant like the seasons like the time of the day like anything they are met net to to go there meant to be released not held onto so mindfulness being in that practice has helped me to be able to release emotions? It's as they're meant to be released rather than being held on to tell us how breathing is part of your mindfulness always has been yes breathing thing but all different kinds of breathing so the deep breathing to really go down into your whole body that just like roots me like oak tree when I see both cleanses but it's just like rudeness but also the fast quick breath to waken me when I would go hunting as a child by dishes. This is elders taught me like if you're starting to get sleepy than do the short breast and Waken you and it was always awakening Bruce. There's this whole joy in the journey of awakening awakening awaiting that affects our behavior in our actions beautiful. If you could recommend a book related to mindfulness what would that it'd be well of course you're with your right and I'm so proud in honored to have to be on your show but also high spend a lot. It's hard to pick one because I'm a member of the Transformational Leadership Council and so Michael Back with I mean there's so many so many leaders Marianne Williamson and just all their works are being mindful da who is amazing consultant and mindful teacher Michael Teacher and not going to be much help there. I I just think pickup one start with Bruce's pick up a book and kick it into the practice. You probably will realize you've already been doing that because that's part of just your own sacredness but you'll be able to go much further when you get that kind of mentoring through a book or in person from someone yes absolutely true crew. Are there any APPS that you would recommend. Maybe APPs that that you use or any of your clients or anybody you know that can help with mindfulness mind movies. is one of the APPS that I have and Natalie lead well wonderful in having people become more mindful and then also in manifesting using the law of attraction. I think her her her work is powerful. Deep and yet so berry simple made simple even though it's drawing a lot of neuroscience as well as I I believe some of the digital squeezed him that it's usable so I I like that happened my movies that's great yeah no put all of this into our show notes and of course mindful tribe checkout for sacred gifts dot com and Anita's book the four sacred gifts. It's it's really a book that I I haven't loved book so much in quite a while. It's just been such a gift and it's a gift a needed to have you as a guest here on the show. Thanks so much for sharing what you do with mindful tribe. Thank you my pleasure bye now. Thanks so much for joining us today. On mindfulness mode owed for show notes for every episode GIECO Mindfulness Mode Dot Com and type the guest's name or the episode number into the search bar. You can also go mindfulness mode dot com slash whatever episode number you like. If you've enjoyed this podcast you could help us out by subscribing. I being to mindfulness mode wherever you listen whether it's on I tunes or Stitcher Google play spotify so many places as you can hear a mindfulness mode so hit subscribe and share because that truly helps our show and remember what I mentioned at the top of the show the waves of content meditation. It's a guided meditation just for you mindful tribe. 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Kami Guildner: From 2020 to January 6 in the US and into 2021 Episode 181
"This is episode one. Eighty one of extrordinary women radio. Welcome extraordinary women. Radio i n your host cami gilmore. Women are being called to lead with voice by tally and bigger each week. Join me for wisdom filled interviews with extraordinary women living out loud and making a difference in our world. Their stories will uplift inspire and sparked your own purpose driven journey. Hello my extraordinary women friends. I had recorded this episode early this week and had intended to share it today on thursday january seventh however in the midst of all the happenings at our nation's capital yesterday i could not in good conscience release this episode which i feel is still relevant as we step into twenty twenty one without first recording a new intro to reflect on what happened in our country yesterday today and feeling numb and saddened and angry at all the unbelievable of that took place at the capitol and not to say that it was totally unbelievable because we could see this coming for months and i look at the security measures that were in force yesterday or lack thereof in that evil intent aimed at stopping our nation's democracy a president who started talking about election fraud before votes reading cast and fed the flames with lies upon lies a president who incited violence from a rally urging them to march upon our capital on this important day a president who told a terrorist and yes they were domestic terrorist that he loved them after they tore through the walls of our capital. Police police officers. Who took southeast with these thugs angry at the systematic racism that lives in our country the treasonous criminals of yesterday who walked freely from the capital in comparison to black lives matter protests earlier this year. The frontline security of our nation's capital yesterday compares drastically to how security stood up months ago around black lives manners. I know you've seen the pictures. The forty fifth non president. Yes he is. My non president has field white supremacy in hate into biden our nation which has tore through every community and many families. My own included. My heart has broken for my black women friends who have had to worry about their sons in the state of the racial fires he field. I have ranted with friends and family over character of this man for four years. His lies his horrible leadership. His misogynous ways his egging on racial hatred is delusional narcissistic ways his inability to accept defeat and he is now done it was never my president and he will soon be stripped of these rights. Something which should have been done long ago had it not been for spineless politicians. There is no doubt that we as a nation have bloodstains on our hands and it is now time to bring back in america. We once loved. It is time to let our american flakes damper good once again not for the hate. Indivi- cast upon that flag over the past four years. It was never their flag to own. It is america's flaked on united. We stand as i glued myself to the reassembly of the nation's congress on television. Last night i saw small glimpses of hope. I saw walls coming down and congress men and women deciding to stand for what was right despite how they intended to show up when they had initially arrived yes not all of them would own the truth that unfolded yesterday and there are some who continue to hold their unbelievable stances and platforms in light of the day but there was motion ever so slight in those halls last night there was a calling for peace and nonviolence and the rule of law established in our country. By our country's founders. This morning i listen to the story of a democrat congresswoman and how some house republicans had reached out to her with carrying concerned to make sure she was okay through the horrible incidents of yesterday as those thugs glass and tried to break down doors and disrupt our democracy. This fellow congressman cared about the real humanity in their room. Again i saw hope in this congresswoman story of people supporting people despite their differences that my friend is what being an american is about. That is the healing that can be brought back to our nation. We have so much work to do. Any long road to recovery from these past four years is going to mean doing things. Differently is going to mean showing up differently. Every single one of us has to do that. I pray for good and i pray for. I'm not one that likes we. Politics into this show is not the purpose of this show. But today as a woman in in america i could not leave this unsaid. I believe in dual party system. My leanings towards the middle is i believe that in leadership that enables collaboration working together. We have big problems to solve in our nation in the only way we can do. This is together today. I have to take a stance and give voice on this platform that i use for good. I'm going to take time today to care for me. And i'm feeling pretty frazzled. I'm going to be in nature. And i'm going to breed them the fresh mountaineer. That's around me. May you find peace in your heart. May we find peace in our country. May we find peace in our world. I listened to. John lennon's imagine song over and over again. This morning could not get enough of that song. I invite you to take a moment and to tune in to it into listen it and feel it now and when a take share the original episode i recorded for this week you may wanna take a deep breath and shake off the energies of these past few days before finishing the episode really truly take a deep breath for it was meant to inspire. It was meant to give you light. And i still believe that there is light in this year before us. We were going through this big change. We are going through this portal. What i talk about it so pause give yourself a big breath and now let's start this twenty twenty one a new low. My extraordinary women friends. Happy twenty twenty one. I hope you had time to slow down and be with family to reflect on twenty twenty in simply for some good old fashioned. Self care is certainly needed. A good dose of downtime. After this year. And i turned off all my medians introduce for the full last half of december. That was the first time i've ever done that. And i gotta say. I love taking the space to plan and strategize on my business and blocking off full day's dedicated to setting up twenty twenty one. It was just such a powerful exercise to be able to make space like that for myself and yes it was a crazy year and yet there was so much that i'm just really happy about when when i look back on the year i was thrilled about where my business ended up and i'll share more about about that as we move through this solo episode. But i think twenty twenty was filled with so much wisdom for us to tune in to for us to learn to grow and to expand what we are doing in our work in hauer showing up. So i am looking forward to hearing from some view. And how this resonates with you. How this how this twenty twenty impacted you how it impacted your business. So please share with me. Come back to me. So i can hear back from you on what came out of this year for you as i wrapped up the year i closed with record level. Revenue growth twenty twenty so that was super exciting and i can attest site growth not to the pivot but to showing up and serving my community to bean and community and making that a priority even if it was a virtual community for the biggest part of the year i tuned into the conversations that they were having around me and i asked myself. How do i serve them. What is my role in these times. Those were to really powerful questions. And when i listened to that what i knew was it was a time for me to help my clients really step into their genius and helping them so that they could break through to serving their communities. And how could they serve on. What was their role in this time. And with that they also got record levels of growth despite twenty twenty right. So this is part of this tuning in and listening to what's happening in our world and making a difference with the gifts of who we are and that's how can really show up to serve and to to maneuver through times like this. That can be difficult. So yes despite twenty twenty and there certainly was an element of shift. I don't talk about the pivot because it wasn't a pivot for me. It was it was more of a shift. Taking extraordinary women ignite conference to a global. Virtual event was no small feat. There were days that i thought holy moly helmet ever going to make this work And i think that the success that came out of that event was tremendous and it also turned it into people could attend from anywhere so there was expansion in it right. There was certainly lessons in learnings. That i had to do and i had to really shift the way that i plan. There was so many more details associated with that again no small feat but it was a shift that that resulted in me. Bill the reach more people guesting on other people's podcast instead of stages was another shift. But it's ended. The date wasn't about a pivot. It was about a shift in how i served my clients and the core of my work helping them raise their voice serviceability and grow their businesses despite twenty twenty and i'm so proud of the women in my community how they supported one another from an emotional perspective from a professional perspective from a friendship perspective. That's what i'm most proud of in my community and yes twenty. Twenty certainly through as many energetic in physical curve balls. And i believe you will find. Good things have happened from this year. Am bad things happen from this year from every single one of us and a good exercise that i went through i looked at it month by month right. I looked at it. I wrote a list out of january february march and i looked at it and there was some great positive things that happened and there were uplifting things that happened in each one of those months and there was also you'll probably find like i did heartbreaking and challenging moments with every single month of the year as well and this is an exercise that i've done for years but when i looked at it in twenty twenty the spread was much more dramatic than it ever been and it really gave me space to follow up with the question. Did i learn in this year. And i think that's a really important thing because i think there's so much growth and opportunity to learn when we are going through times like this to to really tune in to see how do we. How do we survive this year. What what was it. That helped us get through this year. And i i had all kinds of of pages of what i learned from this year. I'm gonna share just a couple of the top things and i'm going to start with. I am resilient and we are all resilient. I'm guessing you brought up but this year brought up all kinds of skills and talents in twenty twenty. That that you were able to tap into that you've been building your whole life leading up to this point right. You've been learning and growing in having experiences that you into this year. And i believe that we were made for these times. And we've been giving the given the tools to show up and lead through these times so don't forget that right. Don't forget that you've got all these life experiences that have gotten you to this point. It's not an accident that you are. You and i are living through these times during these times during these times right. It's we were born for these times. You have gifts that are meant to help shift. Our world to new ways is exciting to look at life through this land. How are your gifts. Meant to make a difference in the world right now to question to really ponder on raise it up step into it lebed for togethers this is how we create the shift in the world. And i think this is some really important. This is a really important time for us to step into our resilience step into our gifts because the world you've been set into this. I did to deliver upon those gifts. I learned that. I don't miss the business travel. I don't the personal travel. I miss yes and i learned that i loved road trips. Yes but the business travel. I can grow my audience on podcast and this is exciting. Me to keep exploring a world of serving in podcast so it's new product. Ideas are bubbling for me. Right and some of these ideas bubble from the pas. Twenty twenty some of the ideas bubble. Because i can see an opportunity served my tribe even further right now. I'm not going to go into the details here today. But know that it's coming and i'm super super stoked. So yes there's resilient serie talked about and now there's this ideas that come when we stopped to slow down a little bit. So that's what happened this year as we were able to slow down and be and our spaces to be in our strategy to be in our planning and that's the beauty of this slowing down. The third thing i learned was i can grow a business downturn. Yes hell yes. This is exciting for me and the other even more exciting part of that is that my clients also grew their businesses. And that's something for us to really be proud of so no matter where your business how your business evolved in two thousand twenty now that you've learned something and that it's setting them up expansion for you so no that and entrusting and know that if you start to apply stepping into your business showing up in your guests that you can really grow your business. Even in downturns the next thing i learned was i love connections connections. Make my business go round. They make my world. Go round. And i'm gonna put him more focused than twenty twenty one to growing my communities to growing my connections to being in there right rooms with the right women and helping each other and supporting each other and opening up doors connecting great women degrade women. It's all the stuff that i love to do. I wanna keep really putting a lot of focus in twenty twenty one on growing my facebook group. Were about ready to hit a thousand women there and have some really big goals that i've set for myself and what i want that number to be and twenty twenty one and so join us over there next. I learned that my intuition is powerful. There were several times in twenty twenty. Went where my intuition guided me. Even before the pandemic started and i think probably the best story around this was in january twenty twenty. I was trying to decide whether to invest on somebody booking me on more stages or somebody buccaneers on more podcast. And i really sat with it. And i listened to it. I'd had great success a year before being on more stages but there was something the said. Follow the podcast. I love podcasting personnel rights. So i listened. And i made that decision. And what i've got to say is when you look at what happened in twenty twenty. I have made a better decision. Because i ended up being on over. I think twenty five different podcast and twenty twenty. And if i had put that investment over on being on stages i would not have gotten my return on investment on that so listen to your intuition it will guide you know whatever was said. Go this other direction in twenty twenty and now. I'm thrilled that i did. I think it was a really important step. So follow your intuition a couple other things. That i'm just gonna penna popcorn these out my hub. My hubby quarantine. While together politics can be overwhelming. Family and politics are even more overwhelming and going to release what i can't control. I'm going to show up where i can make a difference. The meaning of the word home is multidimensional me. I love my physical home. And i love coming home to me. That internal me in the midst of all the chaos. I believe that the turmoil are twenty. Twenty was meant to give us lessons. It felt like we were moving through this portal this war tax to the other side into something more beautiful. I believe there's something more beautiful on the other side of all of this and what we've been feeling this craziness of this year was really meant to magnify the circumstances that were long overdue to shift and perhaps to allow us to see things through a new lens as we get to the other side of this craziness perhaps a softer gentler lens. Women's wisdom is the medicine are earth. Lates i believe that at the very core a my being we have come to this vortex of twenty twenty two truly step into new ways of being leading of serving in Into twenty twenty one and beyond. I can literally feel this shift in my body. And i'm excited for what's to come. Can you feel the ship. I'm been feeling this shipped. It's like through the end of this year. It got pretty intense. And i was doing all sorts of meditations i was released. I was taking time with my horses. I was simply making space. And i could feel a physical tension in my body. I could feel an energetic tension in the world and the ships were still going through it right. I mean they're still kinds of things happening around us but there's some there's been a shift that that it's actually opening up and i did feel this this a total opening up in this last week of december. I feel it in this first week of january and this is really fascinating to me. This shift has been company coming right. Indigenous elders from around the world had been speaking of this ship for many years. When i interviewed dr anita sanchez. a few years back. She had just released her book. The four sacred guests indigenous wisdom for modern times and the time of our interview. She had just returned from spending a week and qui- with thirteen indigenous elders from around the world. Among the many deep discussions the group embarked upon. There was a clear agreement from the elders that women would have an important role in the energetic shifts. That we're going to be coming into our world. They predicted these intense times. They predicted what our role as women would be. They predicted that we would be moving from a masculine dominant energy. That is so prevalent in our business. Our money our government systems into a much more balanced feminine and masculine energy led by women. And i'm by no means in astrology expert. But i've been tuning in listening to a lot of astrology in this last quarter of the year. And if you follow any of the stra logical gurus. They speak to the big shifts and planetary alignments. That are going on right now. That has some that hasn't happened for hundreds of years. The energy we just came through as we closed out. The year was incredibly intense. I heard over and over from astrologist. Expect us and know that there were that. There is a newer lighter energy on the other side of this. When i can't say is i feel the shift. I feel it in my bones and in the weeks preceding the new year. I felt a new lightness of breath. I truly could feel a lighter energy in my breathing. I see a future of women standing in their light because the world needs us. We are being called my friends to do our work to be connected to are being to make a difference with the gifts of who we are in collaboration and community a here calling for a different way of being in the world to rise up out of all the noise and that is around as me. Think about the noise that we are in right now from the politics to cova all that. There's so much noise and when we stop and we tune in and we listen we start to feel differently. We start to we we can be. We have a different way of being right Get out of the noise of scarcity thanking fearmongering and all the other things that are going on and come forth with our wisdom. I feel sense of doing things in a different way. And that means being connected to one another to trust each other to knowing each other allowing the universe to support us to connecting to who we are bring all of our life experiences to the table being connected to my soul being connected to yourself being connected to others connected to the end of verse in really stepping into the flow and not the hustle. And that's a big piece of it right. I think that's a ship that's going to be happening is in our businesses is it. It's not about the hustle about being in the flow and being aligned at the work that we're meant to be bringing into the world it's about carrying. It's not empathy about softness in different ways of being. It's about different ways of doing so. What does this army for you and your business. Here are some of the most important shifts. I see for leading your business and twenty twenty one and it's really it's all centered around the world leadership and it's a new kind of leadership. Several years ago. I wrote an article called lead like a woman with grit and grace might have put the lincoln heresy. So you can go read the full article because there's all kinds of good tips around it. But i think it is so relevant for today right now and this is what i wrote in this in this blog. Post women have been shape shifting who they are in leadership roles for years. Defendant a man's world times are changing a new leadership. Paradigm is unfolding making way for leaders to embrace and embody more graceful heart based wisdom fused way of leading. This is leadership guided by seeing feeling and connection. The world is ready and in fact the world needs you. Does that kill good. Does that feel really good feels. It's exciting to me when you start looking at the way that we can lead with a more graceful heart based wisdom infuse way of leading right by feeling by connection this this is so different and there are several points that and i give a good tips around how you can. You can really step in action action. These these different types but I the starts being the perfect and imperfect expression of you that means knowing who you are showing up embracing all of you not putting up the walls of trying to project but really just being you knowing what your gifts are and that essence of you building that into how you show up and serve your clients. Second know what it is you want to be known for and this means really getting clear about a the core message your mental deliberate in the world right because if you are in this space of of trying to to put messaging now it's just it's just it's just there's no substance to it right and you see so much of this in the world. We have so much information going on in the world. Had something that you stand for be able to put a stake in the ground. Put thoughts behind it bring original thought to it and then make space for pas and quiet introspection. I've touched base on this many times. That's how we can do this as leaders only way we can do. This as leaders is to find that introspective time. Meditation walks be in nature. Whatever is for you make that space. Learn to stand in your feminine power right that light of you. There is so much strengthen our feminine power and it's not showing up projecting ourselves it is really about showing up and being who we are and we then move out of the projection and really into the the the light. That's inside of us right. That's that's the difference that we we step into with a are feminine power and know that how you resonate matters this. Our factor right. It is about really taking care of the energy of ourselves and it means stepping into taking care of our mindset. Taking care of our bodies taking care of how how we spirit however it as we spirit. It means about being a community. That's the r. factor. How we resonate matters and know your personal rhythm. No when you're you're you're most bright no one. You need the downtime tune into that. Listen to it and finally women together. Encircle circle collaboration and community. And i talk about this all the time but it is our community that makes our businesses around. Its it's community as queen put an effort into building your community so when you're thinking about your business the things to really be thinking about in this. This is all about leadership right. This is about us showing up in strong leadership goodstuff here as entrepreneurs raising our leadership. Question is is some of the most important work we can focus on to level of. Our businesses are influence our influence your status our communities our impact. This is how we make a difference. I'm going to be putting a lot of focus on leadership in my extraordinary women. Connect facebook community in my mastermind communities. We're going to be teaching some bernie brown dare to lead work. We're going to be teaching thought leadership having messages that matter having messages that make a difference and much more so be sure you join us and in the meantime keep on tuning into extraordinary women radio. We're about ready to hit for years and two hundred episodes and we're going to be having all kinds of extraordinary leaders to learn from engro with if you've been listening in love the women you're meeting here in my facebook group spread the love a bit and byte some your other extraordinary women friends into this extraordinary women connect group and give my ratings on apple podcast a little love with a five star rating. It really helps us grow and with that my friends. I'm gonna close my invitation to you is to get out and step into your leadership. Your voice your vision and let's be change. Our world needs. We've got this because you were born for this. Welcome to twenty twenty one my friends and let's have fun on this journey together. I hope you liked this episode. Extraordinary women radio. If you dead please share this podcast with your own. Special tribe of women and help spread the love the dreams and the inspiration. Are you ready to raise up your voice your visibility and your business. I invite you to join the conversation and my facebook group extraordinary women can act. This group brings together change maker. Women entrepreneurs who want to elevate their business or impact is place for powerful connections and collaborations. 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Cherie Burton The New Feminine Leadership Paradigm! Episode 149
"This is episode one forty nine of extraordinary women. Radio welcomed extraordinary women. Radio I n your host Cami Gilmore. Women are being called to lead with voice by tally and bigger each week. Join me for wisdom filled interviews with extraordinary women living out loud and making a difference in our world. Their stories will uplift inspire and sparked your own purpose driven journey Coloma extraordinary women friends. I hope you and your family are all well and healthy through these challenging times. I know I am personally needing to take more space for myself to do my own. Inner work more meditations our walks or generally. I did this interview just last week with Cherie Burton and decided to move it up because we had such a good conversation about. What's on in our world right now. Cherie is a pioneering spiritual psychologist whose evolutionary stand speak shine method transforms women into authentically embodied in empowered feminine leaders as a mother of six author. International Speaker and host of the women seeking homeless podcast. She is passionately driven to guide. Women influencers to heal express and create using the New Feminine Leadership Paradigm. Cherie is an avid researcher and teacher the Divine Feminine and has written and produced audience training programs and transformational retreats with a keen focus on addressing the whole woman on multiple levels. She'd go into Yoga teacher. Training and became a certified mind body facilitator and the unique modality. Perfect telling her unique. Expertise is the science and spirituality of sensory integration Cherie. His work is so important right now. I believe that women's wisdom is a medicine are earth needs right now. Let's mate Cherie Burton welcomed extraordinary women? Radio Sherie it is so great to have you join us today. Things can be great beyond he has A. How are you holding up these times right now? It's kind of crazy times. You know I had a little. I'm sure everyone who's on the path to personal development and refinement. Or what have you spares house? I I was rustled a little bit and then I just came back dishonor and it was like you know this is actually a really positive thing. I can see this as an organic shift in in consciousness on the planet I can totally see that and I can totally feel it and I can understand how the the the energy of this can just set us off a little bit. Amanda certainly did me as well early on that was just like I was catching myself. Well there was so much my husband was working. Outta town and I just wanted him to be home and once he got home it was like so like a whole different ground in place once you got home but I like you believe that. There's something shifting in our world needs right now absolutely we We were due for some kind of a shakeup. And although it's not positive that lives are being lost it's actually really really miniscule percentage of lives that have been lost this point and I think it helps us raise our level of awareness if nothing else of how we spend our time our money. What are the state of our relationships? I'm in from a business standpoint. You 'cause I run two businesses It's like okay. What what has this prepared us for? You know if I'm to be a leader and I'm have a voice in this time. How been prepared to do that. And what do I really need to say? So it's like getting to the heart of messaging and and what come out when you ask yourself that question. Yeah so right now it's Obviously how my being heart centered and how my leading from the heart. And how is that energy and warmth of my heart translating into the messaging of my with my tribe with my family. My to me Having the social distance can sign is so interesting like symbolism without right like like how am I already been doing that however I not connected with people from the heart to do? I need to ask forgiveness from Just just wanting to clear the space just from stared spiritual standpoint. I just listened to a podcast and they quoted Richard Roar and he is somebody. I have followed through the years. There's just love what he teaches about the universal Christ but he said the face that you turn toward yourself is the face you turn toward the world and I'm like how am I doing with my own self love. How am I doing by going within an and that is kind of what I teach actually and have been teaching it for a long time but the shakeup on the planet has taken it to another level of? Why would people want to attach to what I teach if I don't have the right energy behind it right? People can feel that people's lately and sense that like uncanny. I may not even be conscious that they are I think what people are really searching for right now is is the are the right kind of leaders because we have religious leaders and oftentimes they have this. Shame based agenda right not on- not always But I think we're becoming really adept at sniffing out with government leaders civic leaders religious leaders. you name it academics. We just can tell when when were being sold to or when we're being handed an agenda with something behind it and told them to do it or follow it and I do not want to have that energy Yeah so so really building that from that inside out of true to who we are. And how do we WANNA show up in the energy that is is us right this true energy of us and although in how we serve See that around our world right now in new you certainly can see both sides of that say that people fall in love with soles not aces and There's this you know when we are really showing up true to our purpose into how were meant be making a difference in the world and I love how you're you're seeing. You're just checking back into that right now for yourself saying how am. I showing for my tribe of people. It feels so such an important question to ask and and really are great teachers right now our children and animals because they very much lead from that heart centered space. And it's so authentic sure and I love it and so that that that to me is kind of well. There's a couple of things I've been teaching about emotional healing for couple decades. And now I feel like it's. It's the new frontier in her son. Development and in medicine is how to heal process trauma And so we are the people on the earth right now. We are the living benefactors of literally millennia of our ancestors who didn't maybe have the consciousness or awareness. Or what have you to to actually get? What's in the body out in terms of emotional energy or transmute are transcend or he'll or a send a meant many did I'm not saying they all do. But we probably have ancestors and and all the way back who were healers who got it right to. We're living in these bodies who I mean you can look at you. Know the environmental damage to the earth as a kind of macrocosm for our own little microcosm of what are we doing in our bodies. How have we been infected infected and affected by our environment Not just air pollution but spiritual pollution and Dogma and emotional toxicity and false beliefs and illusions. I'm really taking a look at that with my child of. How do we kind of Wade through all of this distortion and come back to you? Who actually are was really true. There's a hunger for that. There's a literal hunger for that on the planet so there isn't. I love the fact that you mentioned that the animals the plant bring us back to that space while on the animals. I I I work with horses with my clients so I bring horses into my work in retreat settings for my business clients. So they're entrepreneurs are women entrepreneurs in their growing their business and they're really building their brand from the inside out of who they are but the horses are when. I bring my clients into these retreats settings with the horses it drops in to another level and other dimension that we can see and feel in such important in such different ways and so I think what you're talking about is is kind of clearing out all of the noise that's around us so often and starting to listen and hear in feel and then step into that that light of each person of who they are and so important in the midst of all of this. You know this this because I think the time is right now. Right is like we're we're we were made for these times and I think that's the exciting thing about this and it's it's it's a scary thing. It's a sad thing that's happening. But at the same time people are slowing down. And they're staying in their homes and they're being what their families and they're making space for themselves. They are connecting in new ways. That they haven't been able to obey. They weren't connecting with And like you were talking about is like well how was I really doing in those connections? I think this is all. They're all really powerful questions that we are asking ourselves right now. That open up the space to to where you know. What'S NEXT FOR OUR WORLD? Yeah I think I have heard some people say that Back Slough so here. We go but back in October of last year. Twenty nineteen Air was we entered Kinda they call it the Global Heart Shaqra opening the middle heart opening. And really it's Where our planet like an indigenous cultures had had to be asked to stop for decades Like climbing all over the heart. Shocker the planet something that these indigenous cultures have been asked to to do for decades. It finally occurred on the Earth's actual heart energy so for those people who study like how planetary alignment affects our personal vibration That there was Kind of this opening. That happened and I don't understand. I couldn't tell you which plan as I can tell you. What the alignment was but a lot of people felt that we were coming into something where our emotional center and our spiritual center was being Broken Open so a lot of heavy emotion a lot of past trauma a lot of these kind of things you know. We had the The animal loss in Australia where they Because you brought up animals Where they you know in the fires are one billion. Animals died in those fires So the animal alas alone. We weren't seasons something. We were conscious of bet. It further opened us up and then the the fires and the different thing. So if you are an impact in any way few All of us are have natural compassion. There just a lot of people on earth right now are natural impact. That's why they're on the earth right now because we have this global movement to Have more compassion toward the earth and to each other and to animals but anyway that the smoke from those fires actually circulated all over the globe and and affected the lungs of millions of people. So we were already -ceptable. Yeah so impacts are now fielding a lot of this heart energy unconsciously so. It's so interesting to me about. This fire is actually affects lungs as well But lungs are the area of a body that we hope hold sadness so arief sadness actually lives in the lungs so I am telling people in my tribe focus on your lungs. Breathe through unprocessed grief. This is a time where you can be away from. Everyone and you can go into your private chambers and you can cry you can take a bath you know and you can get out some of the things you may be. You're so busy before with other things or you know. It just didn't seem the right time. Or what have we will now? We have been given this invitation to stop and clear the heart sadness for the whole world and then for each of our own personal as interesting in the lungs. Because I'm just thinking of Corona virus. Would it does it? Impacts our long. So I think that's a really interesting perspective in the mix of all of us in factly It's an another piece that came to mind as you were sharing. That was interviewed Dr Anita Sanchez husband. Probably almost two years ago now and her book is indigenous wisdom for modern times and she was doing a lot of work around the world with with indigenous Communities and leaders and part of what they were talking about in. Our podcast is out there so you can go here. But it's Part part of what they were talking about was that this is the rise of the feminine energy was really coming and it was really an important time for our world right now so you know all is just you know all these pieces start to fit together and it's amazing where how it's all unfolding and So thank you for sharing all your your wisdom on this. I think it's really fascinating I'd love to hear some of you. Help women step into their self worth and I know you have an incredible story about finding your own self. Worth worth right is that it was twisting turning. It was not straight line by any means. Can you share more of your personal story? Sure So I was born into a family where there was a lot of severe mental illness for many generations back. We don't know how far back because it wasn't really talked about attract pass you know. Great Depression era and previous to that but my parents together have six children. I mean they they were. I don't have parents. I should say my parents biologically at six children. And I'm the second oldest and I am the only sibling to this point. That's never had a panic attack or been diagnosed with a major mental illness Not Very haven't had a panic attack But mostly bi polar. I'm between two sisters one year older and one two years younger who are both diagnosed bipolar And mother on her side of the family. Lots of suicides with cousins and Whatnot my dad on his side. He lost a sister to suicide and in her suicide letter. She asked me parents to raise her three year old son so he was adopted as the seven child in our family only awarded and She was young. She was my aunt. She was thirty two when she died. And then my sister Fifteen years ago in this coming April. She took her life and she loves behind five children and her children. She was thirty. Four her children ranged in age from two to twelve and she and I are only two years apart so we were close. We lived in the same community. Our children stay Mejia's When that happened in two thousand five on my cassette coming up on fifteen years it actually change the trajectory of my entire life path I had a psych degree. I actually worked In a sector hospital is a group. Counselor I also worked at an addiction. Recovery Center as a family education director so most of my training was traditional clinical And my sister when she died was on about a dozen medications to manage for bipolar symptons. My older sister you're older was also on justice. Many medications at the time of our younger sister's death and she turned to the family literally to the day of the hour. We find out about other sister and said she beat me to it so my other sister. How a suicide plan? So why? Yeah and and when all this came to light in after he lost Shana Like I said it changed everything just in the way that I I mean because here have children you have five children and a new that that there was a high likelihood they would inherit something right and also just wanting to stop that pattern and how an and having worked in western treatment models in clinical settings. I knew that we really weren't healing. People like I saw a lot of recidivism. I saw a lot of relaxing a lot. People just not feeling and what is wellness and what is wholeness and so my sister my surviving sisters and mom and I. We all dove into the healing arts holistic allergies together. Yeah we did. And as we've got to stop this and Sarah. My mom became a foot. Zoellner it's kind of like reflect reflexologist issued if were science work. And then my other sister became a massage therapist judith massage service and my other sister the wanted was was going to commit suicide She actually had already been studying like Reiki and energy medicine things but she really dove back into that in a big way so fast forward. Fifteen years All of us. All the women healers in my family. We've all and I. I need to say to that I became. I'm not a hands on healer or an intuitive or anything but I definitely dove into Things like EPA genetics and Healing from the inside out root cause natural more natural means to heal the mind body sir really dove into like energy medicine and my body medicine and I saved medicine that there was a lot of stuff I studied. That wasn't scientific but yet drastically affected My family's health and my client so I became a life coach and I just started doing my own thing and You know fast forward now. I've been all over the world speaking about natural health. I mean I go to. I have the large Global Organization of many tens of thousand strong in and we we talk about natural natural ways of healing. My Body Then my my younger sister who was pregnant with her first baby at the time of our sisters. She's twelve younger than I robin. She and I have done this largely together. I self published a book depression and now I'm I'm really involved in helping people clear out. Toxic residue of Generational Patterns Downturns. My sister that was going to take her. Life actually has released all of her medications but when why and she now is a life coach and house really actually had her bipolar diagnosis rescinded by two different doctors. So we are healing and breaking patterns. I my kids at the time that my sister died you know fifteen years ago. They were three five and seven. I had three kids. I now have five. And the oldest. And they're they range in age from twenty after the old no is twenty three now to five Now and And we are seeing this play out with this next generation that we will see different different. The patterns are breaking with that you that were coming through the generations. Yeah and and really. My passion is helping women shine in their own leader stuff sovereignty and leadership domain so the old the leadership paradigm the mouse centric one was achievement recognition Go Go You know really focused on outward mobility and the New Feminine Leadership Paradigm is All Abou- internal centering and alignment and city and expansion. But it doesn't look the same way. It's not hard numbers and hard data and figures and I see a lot of women trying to push the agenda and it really triggered me. 'cause I don't have to do that. We're here to show a different way. Which is how do we? How do we I align in our Sol's and then bring that into our homes and then bring it to a larger domains that we are this is why I are aligned? So we believe this right. We believe that it comes from the inside out perspective. And when I read your tagline your message your message I was like Oh my God I just love that first of all So tell us more about how you really helping women step into their true message through their mass. Yeah so I actually didn't make that phrase up. I don't know where he heard it but when I heard it I'm like oh that's it because every single thing that you have inherited whether it's genetic or environmental we have no we have. We have no seeming control over where we end coronated but I actually think we did shoes that we purposely chose which families system and where we wanted to be born in. Wayne you awake to our weight and aware of that. That is not the victim of what you've inherited but it's it's meant to be your vehicle of empowerment Even if you made choices along the road that didn't seem to be the highest twice while there's that is also a message right so we came here to turn lemons in time. Nate whatever you want to call it. Beauty for ashes. Whatever you WANNA say We came here to take whatever we've in our humanness and in our weakness and and make it something beautiful no matter what it was so I don't care if you're sitting in prison or if you're in the throes of addiction or wherever you're at you can take that move it. I have a brother who struggled with alcoholism. We almost lost him. Just like NAS my sister. He's now you know several years sober and now is turning his message into his his own empowerment. So I love that you can own. And the wave of future is also vulnerability and sharing your story. Thought is the way. So it's like Rayon taking that unprocessed trauma and being so real an so relational triple that you liberate them. You still stand in a space of power and you stand in a space of divine love and That that powerful connection is about being bodied so a lot of spiritual paths and teachers and whatever and even in icy this actually in the healing arts if people WANNA bypass they're human this in the way of showing up as this great soul or whatever this great person but actually you you will every day of your life probably wake up or at some point in your day have to battle strong emotion and so it's in the fire of that in it's in the the on the journey of that that you actually become an empowered leader voice that people want to align it because you say hey this is where I'm not. This is what I'm battling and you don't show up all perfect and like you have it all together But you still access your body Wisdom Feminine Leadership Paradigm Is. It's about the in your body not not neglecting. And that's why I shared that quote about Richard were the FE. She turned toward yourself as the FE. She turned toward the world. And if you want to truly empowered. Heart centered wise leader. You will look within I and say how am I want glasses? I'm wearing right now and look at is my heart. Open that right. That's good part of important part of that. Right is because we can be like reflecting back but if our heart isn't opened to the mix of of the situation that we're in how how do we really open up to the purpose that we're stepping into right if it will close off right right so some so often women can get stuck in somebody's emotional cycles. What what does healing need to be so complex and complicated I mean I'm sure this whole journey that you came through when you made this choice with your family with your sisters with your mom. We're going to go through this journey of healing. This is so complicated. Texas a little bit about that. No that is a lie. That's being perpetuated He's actually emotions. Themselves are complex but Healing itself is very is actually quite simple in theory It's not hard. I mean it's not hard The the way of healing is all about how we see healing so Cultural I mean. The the collective conscious as consciousness is afraid of healing. Religions are actually afraid of. He'll they perpetuate stories. You've got to do all this and get all the and then maybe you might be worthy and then maybe you're not doing it right and then maybe you're missing something and that's really damaging programming Even our medical system is I right absolutely right and then taking medications and then we're afraid because this might have this side effect or not and I learned that through with my sisters who were on all these medications that were actually not only exacerbating their condition but actually creating so I am not a purist in the sense that I say you know. You can't have any fear around this or whatever ca spears unnatural state. It's our natural state. It's it's our default state so there should be some healthy respect around it but aren't bodies obey our command. And so that's why I'm so sensitive to this. Virus is not as strong as the fear surrounding it People are glued to the TV and their social media and trying to get the latest and greatest. You know the and it's actually perpetuating quite a bit of fear right now. It doesn't mean we shouldn't be responsible and it doesn't mean we should be careless. Not Listen to the news or not know the latest her however we have to learn how to come into center and really get into alignment. So I have this thing called their creation. Compass may teach about how to come into a space of centering. Your senses has our senses are portals to our own peace of mind and our own health and our own ways and feeling good so when we can encode or the input coming into our through our senses if we can make a space for that to be For our highest. Good if you will drive with like for instance what we're seeing what we're smelling or tasting what we're all of those things have a have a great impact on how we are expediting That toxic motion through us if we can. Our sensory pathways actually helped to cleanse restore. Who We actually are so mic on my website. I I have a free I have a free kinda multi sensory healing kit that you can download just has a you know things like a guided meditation or a beautiful aromatherapy recipe or something that you can put in your mouth like I just. I just believe that we can have this ongoing self care. That's focused on our sentence and it actually nourishes us from the inside out rather than the outside in and so that can bring us into still point. The only way we can get into still point is to commerce senses and clearer sensory pathways. And when we get to that still point where now a force that can you know until we get there? We cannot be for some leadership in trying times right. We have manual here in that that very open space space right so On if you go to stand a my my messaging might WANNA marry businesses. Stand speak shine. I had a stance speak shine school. Where do these three month programs for women but if you go to stand speak shine dot com for slash healing kit or even if you just went to stance behind dot com? You could find SRI BURTON DOT com. You could find the healing kit there but it's just a way to get people started on. How do I nourish myself? How if we're waiting for an outside source to come in and take care of us or nourish us we. This is the biggest lie of the like the grand. Why that's being perpetuated outside of this is GonNa take care of us right and so we're waiting for our healthcare systems to do that. We're waiting for our spouse to do it. We're waiting for our kids. Whoever BEST FRIEND ARE SISTER MOM DAD? It will never happen. Never my heart rate. So I just believed in the sensory tackle as as being our feel-good portals and and actually the the alchemy that will move us closer to our center into the divine within I like it a lot and this this feel good center if we all were to step into that connection of who we are into her body into the our soul our our spirit our you know our connection with those around us how the world change. Wow well I just think about Mister Rogers seen them the documentary by him and then so I think I think movie with Tom. Hanks is once you be my neighbor. I think the the documentary is like Windy opposite maybe. It's once you may be my neighbors documentary and it's a beautiful day in the neighborhood. Is the movie anyway. I highly recommend people watch that just as an example of what the world would be if we all lead from the heart and we present with people and we present with ourselves and we will add from loves Because it would be beautiful in the neighborhood you know and I think that it's not going to all look like his personality now Ray. Rice has their own light. Exactly yeah like there's people who have fierce warrior energy so their way of censoring would be like looking at different back with. I think when we when we all make it about each other and we know how to censor ourselves and then we It's GonNa that's gonNA spread like a virus if people learn how to come within and be okay with who they are and lead from the heart and then you know it and do that for their family and then do that for their people that they interact with and then do it on mine. And I think when people learn to align then we will have a different world. The world that satellite the patterns will align the grids will align energy will align and the weather patterns will align everything. Yeah I think that's what we're moving to. Yes I would agree and I think that's part of this the shift that's happening right now. As as we're we're all seen different ways to do that the slowdown we get out of our doing. We're always were doing doing doing and getting into the space of more being which helps us. Recenter re- recalibrate ourselves so that we can show up in the world in a different way. Absolutely yeah so what keeps women from Truly showing up in their life. I know this is one of the things you help them. And do. What is that women have a? It's really a paradox. Because women have a great fear visibility because if they We have a great need as women to be visible. But it's also our greatest fear so we have a need to be beautiful to answer feel the full and we have a need to be seen but we also are afraid to be seen because we have women have the ability to see the whole picture to feel into what's really happening under the surface and the shadow side and that's a gift with the shadow side of that is everyone's GonNa see my imperfections and And actually like I was talking about beginning like we're moving into a place on the planet where we need visit. We need people who are center to be visible to be seen to reheard. Yes and so one of the reasons I started this dance. We shine. School was because I wanted to give women the opportunity to learn how to to stand speak speak out and then shine in who they are whatever that looks like so the greatest fear women have of truly showing up is whatever they offer will not be received and so whether it's how they look the people are GonNa reject that or that. What they say isn't of enough substance and everyone else is talking about it. So why would anyone listen to me and what I would say to that is. There are a million people talking about healing right now millions but only you can carry it with your tone and timber and energy and Malley Dynamic and systems and DNA in There's only one you that can deliver healing the way that you're meant to and there is no accident. That you incarnation into the space or where you live right now is no accident so I would just say that. That fear is what keeps women from showing up is that they don't feel like they're enough. They haven't internalized yet that they actually are more than enough and that wet they have to offer is needed in this hungry world in. May You and I'd get that changed that perception for each swim woman. That's out there that we get to work with because I agree with. How do we shift that? How do we change that? How do we help? And enable women to step in to their moist into their visibility into how they're making a difference in the world so I love love. Love love this conversation So Cherie Working People learn more about you and your work. I know you've given us your address. Your website addresses but go ahead and get more time. Yeah so So I do have a podcast. Also the have you as a guest. Coming in. It's called. Women Seeking Wholeness W. H. O. L. E. N. E. S. S. and that's actually on all the platforms. I tune spotify etcetera And also just my website So they can either. You can either find me on these shine dot com or my name Cherie Bert Dot com that. If you want to take advantage of that free multi sensory healing Kit It's just stand. Speak SHINE DOT com forward slash healing kit and you can also asked to join my facebook group. Women seeking wholeness and we dive into lots of these kinds of conversations I'm really GONNA be ramping it up because I know like you county it's You know people are looking for certainty or searching for some kind of certainty. Missile that Kenya's yes and teaching women to Ground Right. Now is going to be massive. How the ground? So yeah. That's where people can find me and I love just the diversity of people. I'm attracting you mean. There's no peep women are I. I tend to attract like truth. Women are like the truth seekers vying. Who WanNa look beneath the surface of what's actually happening and going on and so that's why I'm so excited about the days ahead because we're GONNA see some massive changes in this. You know in the coming weeks months and years things will never be the same again. And that's a good thing and it's a hard thing but I think you know connecting and tribes right now is going to be really need full connection and tribes is so important. I even opened up a for my mastermind grip on a Marco Polo Group where they can all connected share on a on a daily basis as many times as they want to and that's been really important and they've they've just they've needed it right now. They've nate people need that additional support around them so for any of the any of you who are author who lead communities. How can you create more space for people to connect and really support one another? You know something I would love free all be thinking about because I think that that additional support through this these times is is really important. Absolutely I honor you for the work that you do because that can already tell that you have a lot of You'll have a lot to offer people in terms of sitting in their soul space. I think we're all I think there's so many of us who were called to step up and be leading right now so I'm honored to have that bat opportunity So the final question I always. Asheri is what through proposal wisdom would you like to leave with our audience today So I feel like the first one is going back to that quote by Richard or you know the face that you turn toward yourself as a face you turn toward the world so I would say Turned toward yourself right now. It's not selfish Look at how you really truly feel about yourself And that would be the first thing and the second thing is be kind of piggybacking that first thing but you know if if there are some Unkind or even destructive beliefs. You have about yourself because we never have it about life. It's always about how it's always a reflection how we feel about ourselves. So do whatever is necessary during this quarantine time however long. That's going to be to really an unknown on everyone in the world in countries having the same level of but most are and it's the perfect invitation to go in and just start loving on yourself So so examinee not Is So beautiful right now and then the third thing is to just Breathe I think we everything I learn about. The breasts Both from a spiritual and even from a health standpoint is everything rides on the breath. I did two hundred hour yoga teacher training with my daughter a couple years ago and I didn't do it to become teacher. I just wanted the information and my daughter did it. Become a t shirt but What we learned about breath from the ancient Miss Dixon sages is still true today. And it's still true in Biblical Times even like it's everything rides on the breath So come back to your breasts. Come back to what you really actually feel and then just honor it and let it be what it is and let let your about unprocessed trauma. I talked about earlier. Just right out of you and through user your breath and give yourself out space from because you're worth it. If you will need you will need your voice and people need what you have to offer so good. And it's and I love the fact that you went to Yoga training to to just have the information right versus wanting to be a teacher and actually thought about that myself and not thinking that I wanna be a teacher but just there's so much deep wisdom in space so I think that that's inspirational to me. So thanks for sharing hot. Thank you and thank you for being here today. I mean what what beautiful wisdom you brought all the way through this and thank you for sharing your stories and in no so many people are gonna find this inspirational and it's it's good to see. See this through a different Lens right now. So thank you for sharing that Thanks for having me. Cami was wonderful to have a good day. Thank you so much Cherie Ut I love you like this episode of Extraordinary Women Radio if you did please share this podcast with your own. Special tribe of women and help spread the love the dreams and the inspiration. Are you ready to raise up your voice your visibility and your business? I invite you to join the conversation in my facebook group. Extraordinary women connect. This group brings together change maker women entrepreneurs who want to elevate their business or impact. It is a class for powerful connections and collaborations. It is a place to be inspired of lifted and fired up for action to learn more about my work that helps women entrepreneurs make heartfelt connections to Michael Gross Strategies visit my website at Cami Gulnur Dot Com. Tell next time my friend. Listen to your heart. Follow your dreams and be you.
480 Transcending The Human Drama With White Eagle and Kerri Hummingbird
"Mindfulness mode for eighty and it wasn't always the name why dayquil but it was like this indigenous Shaman Medicine Man on inside of me reach new heights of calm focus unhappiness here on mindfulness mode with me your host and mindfulness life coach Bruce. Hey Mindful tribe. I have a feeling you are just going to love being immersed in the conversation we're about to have have I have a fabulous author on this show today WHO's able to allow the book to be channeled through Sir onto the page and it was fascinating to read this book called the second wave and I'm sure you are going to love it as as well. You can get it on kindle you can order it of course on Amazon so exciting to have Kerry hummingbird with me today carrier you in in mindfulness mode. Today I am in mindfulness mode and sometimes they call it might empty. Yes I do know mine. Empty can good evening. Well mindful tribe. Let me share a little bit about Kerry with you. Carry Hummingbird is a sole guide. A channel of an embodiment of White Eagle and white. Eagle is an ascended master who specializes in Rainbow Light activation in of human DNA Carey has served as a social activist a leader of both philanthropic philly. Can you know whatever that word is flop. Full Fillon throw us to be able to say that word like two minutes before the show started us and for over three decades. She's done all this activism and all this work she's the founder of the skills not pills IOS movement and host of soul nectar podcast Kerry inspires people. And when I say that I really mean it inspires people to lead their lives lives wide awake with an authenticity a passion and purpose so Kerry. What does mindfulness mean to you? Mindfulness to me Eh means being able to get mind empty enough to listen so it's like being still as much as you can be to become aware of what's happening not only in your mind but like in your body lake in your cells in your breath in the moment in the relationship relationship in the projection and the discomfort in the ICKE. That you're feeling are not feeling like it's like being able to kind of go through your life aware of all of that and not holding onto any of it at the same time and listening league listening to everything. There's a lot of listening to happen. And then there's a flow all that happens in that state so that was a lot of just said just like that. What do you think about that? I think that's awesome. I think that that I was fascinated when I was reading your book the second way because you started talking about how you went on a search for your grandfather and what does like why did you do that. What moved you to the search for your grandfather? It was actually. My grandmother will make sorry no no worries but you I felt this. Really deep inner alignment with native American tradition. And if you're watching me I mean I'm redheaded look like that right but I do have Cherokee in my lineage and I've just felt an alignment. They're like I feel an alignment with nature. I feel an alignment linemen with drums and drumming and like all the things you know the native American traditions. I just feel alliance there and I couldn't really explain that except that I have this ancestor right so I thought okay. Well I just need to get connected with that and I couldn't enter dimension because my grandmother back around the time of the trail of tears she could pass for white so you know she found a white man and married him which was her decision but as as a result we lost her name. We lost on the roles. I don't I won't even know how to navigate that how to find that so I thought okay. Well I'm GonNa find somebody that's really good at going beyond the veil like going through the fist dimension to talk to the ancestors and connect me that way and I don't think that I was is ever disconnected per se. I think it was just the I needed a bridge. I needed somebody to bridge me. You know into that next space so actually I went to the Cherokee village replica village in in Cherokee in the mountains there and I didn't actually get connected at first time. There was no success success. I asked around but I didn't really get anything but the second time I went which is two years later. I went with my sons. My grandmother had just died different grandmother. My stepdad's mom had died and we were coming back through and I said you know what I want to go back again. I'm going to try again and I did. I went to one person in the next president experts in this and I got connected with somebody who said a help you. It's fine you're uh-huh crying and you're really upset because by now I'm feeling like really like I. This is something missing and I need to find it. I need to get back. And he was. He would see that in so bruce was his name and he said okay. I'll be on the parking lot so I start walking out to go and wait in a parking lot is going to be fifteen minutes or something with my sons and I started walking away and I feel this like softball size piece of energy just like it got flung at me through the back of my head head by where your neck meets the back of your head there. Like there's there's a portal called the mouth of God. Actually which I did not know at the time I did nothing about that but I felt this energy come in and then all the sudden I could like see the trees breathing and I felt dizzy and like expanded and really weird you know so I sat down. I said I gotta sit down. I don't know what's going on with me but I need to sit down and that started like this. Six Year journey seven year journey of like integrating this energy. Like what is this and of course Bruce met with me you know and the whole time sitting there talking to him. I'm kind of chattering out about my story and is other voices saying to me too many any thinking. That's voice started to many thinking and I became aware of this chatterbox. Like just telling a story the Justice Ego itself and I became aware. There's other things saying no to many thinking so it was so interesting to me. It's been unpacking spending spending unfolding in on a packing of this inner awareness of what was that I came in. Who Am I now? Is it me is it an ancestor. Is it something I'm here in a definitely felt like something was healing. 'cause I started going into this healing I had to heal this part of me. That was now part of me. I had to heal this. So it's a lot of inter exploration is very fascinating. It's been a fascinating journey. It really is fascinating and I noticed that we have a lot of mutual friends. Because you have your show your podcast soul nectar and I notice. You've had Anita Sanchez on who I just also do. I just absolutely absolutely loved interviewing her and reading her book and an as soon as I started learning about you I thought you two are just two peas in pod. You're you just so connected yeah. She's amazing I love her very much and we understand each other greatly. Yes yeah yeah for sure. So tell us about Whitey. Go I mean it was fascinating fascinating reading about White Eagle in the book and how you stumbled upon White Eagle. Tell us the story. So White Eagle is started coming to me and waves like like through this healing process like the first step. Is this like this energy the back of my skull right which. I don't even know what that is but I can see the trees breath now. Another kind of different perceptionist actionist coming in. And then I started hearing this guide that was saying too many thinking who is this and I started becoming aware of that and then I started working with you know healers and clairvoyance and and I was going to energy medicine school so I was training with the four winds light body school which is a school of Alberto Vilar Aldo was doing training narrow and so we were already working in in self healing and modalities of aligning to your soul and things like that so during that process things kept coming up about what White Eagle White Eagle. This thought you know this. And it wasn't always the name White Eagle but it was like this indigenous Shaman medicine man inside of me that needed to heal this deep grief over the trail of tears like had made a decision that then it felt like the weight of the world was on him about this decision to hold peace because he was the peace chief and so all these waves have information. Start to come through and I'm feeling like there's tremendous amandus grief that seems beyond me like it just seems like it's too much for me I just can't my life can't be that screwed up is gonNA started thinking to myself 'cause for for a while I thought wow I'm really screwed up because I've got all this sadness and grief in anger and all this stuff on my own. I know we're all this is coming from. I know my life's been a little screwing I've tried to do. Some hailing understanding of that but this beyond that this seems bigger and I started realizing I started seeing him visions and then I started seeing him like doing drum journey during journeys and things like that I would see him in front of me. It was just. Give me the drumstick. Just let me Drum I. This is interesting staying And it's getting confirmed with all these psychics and people. I would talk in me. What is going on with this? You know who is this but I kept. I'm doing this deep healing and I even doing some writing which I didn't talk about in the book but I would do this automatic writing where I'd be like. Okay what do you want. And he'll be like I want my tribe I want I want my tribe. I want my tribe and I'd be like well okay but you have to lead the tribe. Are you ready to lead the tribe. No I'm not ready. So there is this back and forth in conversation that was happening with this aspect of self healing. It is like he was helping me hill. I was helping him because I'd had all this trauma and things things going on through my life so far so we are helping each other. I've had many mystical moments with him. Were it's like we were unifying together. Legs exit masculine and Feminine Together and then the part will really kind of blew. My mind was that I will back up until this part of the story and then I'll tell while the the part I think you're thinking about is that my dad died so my Stepdad Ben. Just a huge huge force of light in my life from the time I was five five and had been very traumatic before that but then he showed up and he put order to chaos and he just came in and master teacher really beautiful beautiful guide lovely a person and and he was the kind of man when he entered the room. Everybody wouldn't WanNa go talk to my dad. He is a kind of man if he entered the room. All the dogs go crawl up in his lap. You know he was Zac guy and you know everybody sort of crawled up in his lap. You know they all want to gather around my dad and he thought so. That was my dad and I just thought my dad's amazing so right about the time that I'm doing all this healing and I know I've got a big purpose. I feel it within me I. I know that I've got important things to do. I've gotta get them done. And I had this urgency about it like I gotta do it now and and maybe some listeners also have felt that I've got a big purpose. It's really important. I need to do it now. Wow like let's get the show on the road it has to happen. Tell me what it is. I'm ready to go. I got my march you know and so I had that ready to march arched feeling in things are about to open up. Are there brought to open up. But then they wouldn't and the rebound to open up. A wooden is like having this meditation one day on the way to another healing playing Training which I didn't really need but I I just like them so I wanted to go get trained in another holiday. So I'm going out and taking a moment to meditate before I drive Dr and I have this really expansive meditation. The kind where. There's no more thought and you're just really out there in the universe new. Just like tingling sparkling and I had that kinda meditation. And then I heard the guides Sta- she's not ready and fired up and I'm like I am ready like aw don't say about me I am and it felt like they were like discussing something or deciding or something like that and then the meditation they should ended in. I started driving to my retreat and a couple hours later. My mom called I. I looked on the phone and send my mom called and I called her back and she's like carry. You gotta come home like talking about. I'm like all the way to Mar.. I'm almost at my retreat. And she's like Ed Dad's in the hospital and he's dying and if you want to see him again you need to come home. He had this like last minute out of the blue. Of course pneumonia thing it just like came on and Bam like a freight truck so I turned around I drove all the way back fifteen hours and I and I got there. Four thirty in the morning got to spend several hours of my dad by his bedside and you you know listening to him and and my brain like we were taking a like a life review as I was dozing and he was dozing. We actually were in the mental full space. I could not imagine Imagination space if it's your mentioned like actually having a life review and he is reminding me of you know I told you this I showed you this like taking a whole journey. Journey was Mu is beautiful bruce who was like gorgeous and then the next morning he was gone and this is like sold agreements. This is what talked about in the book. I did not realize it at that moment but later on I realized I had a sneaking suspicion that I didn't want to admit because it would make me feel guilty so I did have a sneaking suspicion Russian right then that this is what had happened and I was feeling a little guilty about it because my mom but really later on actually about three days as before I publish the book the second wave I had a medicine ceremony at plant medicine ceremony and in the ceremony he actually full-on came in with me in a conversation and a dialogue White Eagle and said. Who Do you think's been training you this whole time? Who Do you think? Sure ally I on the other side when you're about to do big work in the world. Wow and then you just connected like all the dots all the little threat. Do you know the little the threads that you've got that you just discard like you get it and then you throw it away or it goes back under the waves. He just pulled them all out like a big tapestry. The Constellation Islas dues mind blowing. And he's like you better put my name on the book because you don't have very much authority or credibility right now and you could use a little my name on the book. I was like okay. I'm GONNA do it. This is the first time I've ever done anything like this. My you know Oh my twenty year high tech person going into what the one in my brain that's third dimensional reality and how people think about things is going so you want me to do what this is. Oh I'M GONNA lose all credibility now you know but I'm going to get a different credibility so so yeah so it definitely. It was really powerful experience and I didn't even have time to integrate it because like three days later the book is published. And you know I had added that initial section because I said he why did you actually told me you don't need you. Don't even put that in there but I but carry hummingbird put it in here. Because I felt like I needed to explain it. Explain all the pieces. I couldn't just let it out like fascinating. Let's talk about Rainbow Light Activation. What's that so well? Rainbow Light is the highest frequency light. You know it's I picked up some rainbow alight activation. Of course my path led me all the places I needed to be as it turns out. The Carol Shamans from Peru are are the keepers of the rebel lagoon. So there's this Rainbow Lagoon. That's in Austin gotTa Holding Their Holy Mountain in Peru and it's except like sixteen thousand five hundred feet and so they have shamans that actually live up there and protect the Rainbow Lagoon. Because it's a portal like as soon activated deportable of Rainbow Light. So when I was up there I went on. I just so happened to be called to go to Augusta. Of course. Of course I knew in my heart. I needed to go so I went. I didn't House GonNa affordable whatever it all happen and I went there and the night before I walked up there Albert Oviedo because it was his group that went up there. He's an attempt that before and he's he gave me an extra time he didn't give anybody else a hard time. But he poked at me and he's like well Kerry no if you can't make it all the way to the rainbow going to back that everybody has to turn around and nobody gets to go. WHOA talk about pressure? I know he's it's like are you sure you can make 'cause you're even having a little trouble lately and I actually was not having trouble but he put that thought in my mind and I had to. It was like an initiation creation. I feel like he did it on purpose to initiate me right to the claim right because in the other life on the trail of tears I had been in so much responsibility. Eighty and for all these people in that lifetime I couldn't handle it actually couldn't watch the devastation. I couldn't be present with it. It was too much for me so this this was another opportunity so I got to forgive myself on the way up there but anyway yeah so I went all the way up to the top of the Rainbow Lagoon and I sang the song to the Rainbow Keefer which is an energetic addict. Being a flight that lives up there and I just sang a song to this beautiful being and I connected with it like good friends now. When I was coming down off at at the next day we did at the final dispatch? Oh the Carol Shamans and I brought a bunch of stones down because not everybody made it up there cannot everybody could go. They couldn't physically do it right so I collected a bunch of stones up there and I offered them. I said okay. Whoever couldn't make his my gift to you like you have a piece of the Reagan? Sure and the Carol Massar is saying something something and I could understand it because my Spanish still on his work on my Spanish and my friend translated and she said Oh they think you're the rainbow keeper on Rainbow Keeper Kula. Aw dismissed it again. It was one of those bits I just put under the I was like okay. Whatever but actually after that I started challenges rainbow symbol light activation? So you're asking about the rainbow the rainbow light activation is actually like it's from another place from source or some is like is rainbow light that comes down and it's like a waterfall of it and it actually upgrades every single cell day. Strand of your being like. It's actually actually healing all the human strains of suffering that we've had up until now because we're moving into another whole reality like we're we're shifting this reality we're shifting into to a whole `nother potential now of like what's this Maserati capable of not like how broken is it. We've been exploring the hell broke in his maserati where moving moving into like what this thing capable of like. Oh my goodness like what could we possibly do with Maserati. Like how fast can it go. Can Fly can go under the water. You know like how psychic is it like. We're so there's a lot of you know reconfiguring reprogramming of the DNA that in our understanding. That has to happen our cellular memory and all all of that so the Rainbow Light actually comes down through that and bring the ascension codes that would support you in making that transition in your own life opening the book of destiny so you are a philanthropist. So let's talk about that aspect of what you do. Yeah so I would say that. There are many philanthropist On the Earth at this time there are many people that do lots of work all night long in your sleep for the whole planet and they're called the second wave and probably others very but there's like ten percent of the planet that does this work right now in the second wave and then there's also the first wave which came before I did tons of work the ability inroads for all the teachings learnings that we would need in order to activate into the second way. So we're paving away for the third wave and they're like so pure beautiful you know. They've really have connection. They they know love in appearance in a higher vibration nation than maybe has been present here so philanthropy for me is like that work that you do that. You don't even know you're doing or you know but you're doing it all night long and you and you're just giving so you're philanthropist you. Because mindfulness mode. That's what that is. You just fill the call to do it because you know you need to get their messages out there and and you're not attached to the outcome is say it. You're doing it because somebody is gonNA listen. It's GONNA help them so I've been doing that kind of work for my whole life like I just showed up doing that. Just whatever way I can pitch in or use my gifts or you know I find myself in leadership positions all the time and I just I can't have to just up in you know because that's waiting for me to step in and do something with it and Organiz people so I haven't like monetarily. A lot of people judge things like ECOMMERCE money did I get for that. That usually hasn't panned out for me in that way like this is not the reward that I get from. It does just doesn't see it'd be a billionaire all right now if that was the case but I just do it because it's like feels good. It's the right thing to do. I feel the call sometimes. I have the inner resistance to doing the thing and and I am not and I do it anyway and then I always flip out her at the end of the day so I think that is really the definition of a philanthropist. Like you see the work that needs to get done like Anita Sanchez. You you see that worked against needs to get done and you do the work you apply yourself and you get in there and you're being called to do and that's how the way it was with your book. The second wave. Have you just knew that you needed to do it. And you channel that whole book. We talked a moment about that before I hit record. Can you tell us how mindful that was that experience of actually channeling the book. Yes I had to get myself when I say we have many aspects of of south so maybe clear. My personality needed to be in the background. In order for White Eagle to flow through the wisdom threw me into the book now what facilitated that is decades and decades of being a writer like I had twenty years as a high tech communications communications and writer for Second Valley so it already forged the channel within myself of words of the right words. So that part you know I was the personality personality. Did that part you know did the work of building a canal and then then the river flows through the canal and asks the spirit so like I asked this question you know. What can I not carry hummingbird personality? What can I take credit for in the answer was you can take credit for doing the work to build the resiliency in the canal and filling your bucket with good information information? That's what you take credit for now. Handed over is you know. And that's kind of like what we do we handed over then and then it'd be the flood comes through the flood of the spirit flows through so when I was writing that book I knew that I needed to be a space where my personality fell. Okay I'm seeing I'm witnessed. I'm loved I'm held. I'm safe great now I can. I'm willing to step into background and allow this flood to come through and then the spirit comes through and as I'm in writing which is a channel lie channel with clients at Channel on the phone I channel and the groups that just happens naturally. I've just listening. And then the words coming to start speaking now without knowing what I'm saying and luckily I record a lot of it. Do I like really do. I even know that it. It comes through and the same thing for the book like it. Just it flows through onto the page. And then I'm reminding my personality. Don't look at the words. Don't don't try to read it right now. Like there's different aspects of cells that are coordinated facilitate that transmission into a physical form. And how long did it take for this book to come together four months. It's quick and it's like Bam I would sit for five hours and just it would just come out or like two hours Harvard. Long young my personality could stand it. Yeah curious amazing. It is amazing. It's absolutely amazing really. ooh Oh well reading. The book is cool and it's cooling. Knowing that you were able to channel this whole thing and the book is just is so so clearly communicated. Well what I found is that like I would feel the words. I don't know if I feel the words. I'm trying to explain. They get feel the energy or the transmission like the consciousness. I felt consciousness. That wants to come through and then that consciousness would have like back then. I like this translation. Process of like what words expresses that consciousness like what words expresses that stream and then that trans that would happen infiltrated and go to my fingers verse in the Book You talked about. Have you always felt like an outsider. Have you felt like that person. That doesn't quite belong where you are. Do you think there are more of us that resonate with feeling than you would. I imagine yes. There are a lot of people have had that feeling and then they've stuffed it down bright and told themselves as ridiculous. That's ridiculous like you have a father you ever mother you have home yeah but like like negate it and suppress it or think it's weird and not want to confess is it because other people don't seem to so that way until you say it bruce like you know from your show and you speak out loud other people go. Oh my God. I've always felt that way. How come thank you for saying that? I thought it was the only one I thought it was weird at that. Know that and it was braved sale. Those things right 'cause else by personality selfs going man you are. You thought it. Would you thought you had it when you carry hummingbird unlinked and just wait now we really think. Hey you're crazy now. So wow yeah. It's amazing now. It's like because you when you read it. You know it's true that's the thing I love about it. People read that in a cry. It's true for them. They read that and they absolutely they cry day they highlight it. Is that mean fall. Because it's like the truth just wet. Damn that's right I forgot I had 'em nation a completely forgot who actually am. I got lost in this strange strange. Little Matrix yeah so true one of the things you say. It's time to liberate yourself from the shackles of a dehumanized world. Oh wow so powerful that it is a dehumanized world. Isn't it it is. It's funny because we're here to be human but what is human mean gene and human. I think in the ultimate expression like if we go to the purest expression of what humanity of the design of the blueprint if we go and access the blueprint of what divine intelligence intended for humanity. I cannot believe that it meant all of this stuff. You know that we witness in the world today. I know that people have different ways of processing polarity on Earth am aware that many people have made justifications or ways of thinking to explain away why it is that we have so much suffering on the planet and to find a way to be okay with it and come to peace with it is. There's some kind of like you know inner champion you know like Oh. I'M GONNA wear my badge of honor or my scar with pride but I really at the end of the day if you really honestly honestly just took a moment and checked in with what was the design the intended design of humanity. I cannot believe that's the end of that's not at the end of the story. That's not it. That's that might be a piece of the story smallest little piece because the grand plan the Dow capacity of humanity is incredible is so far surpasses this petty little stuff. This petty painful stuff we've been experiencing on the planet. What of Your Son's taught you about all this everything? Being a mother. There is the most vulnerable experience ongoing. Because you can feel them like as a mother you feel your children completely never stopped feeling you always feel them so you could feel everything going through and what is taught me in layers. It was. I like how to take control and take take care of them like be mindful and take care of this other human beings defenseless and vulnerable and needs to port rise. You've got to do that part. But then you gotta start releasing that exactly exactly face your fear. They're going to get in hurt and things are going to happen because things are going to happen they are as it. Then you gotta start learning about that part heart. How old are you now? Third almost seventeen and twenty and it's been a constant journey Bike of unexpected things like feelings and words and things. You didn't think that they would misunderstand and then watching them. I am an seeing. You know like your like lying and things like that happen and all these things happen right like all the lessons in life and just watching it all happen and being and being able to gauge. What's the moment that they're ready for me to inject this little insight of waiting for it and it's so uncomfortable sometimes to wait for that? Yeah what it means. You're listening to them suffer. Be With it. And that's the planet right now like that really is the experience on the planet right now is like the second wave is Ben here experiencing what it means to be human and empathizing with it and having compassion from it it from the inside out this whole up until now experience of what it means to be human and waiting for the moment and now is the moment in. Everyone knows now is the time because if you tuned and in like you've been hearing that message for a couple years now now is the time now is the time now now is the time. What are we doing? And that now is the time which were now. We're raising it up to the conscious level. So that is the same thing with children. You know your children soles on the planet so it's the same analogy it's like when are they ready for the next piece. Are they ready for the next 'cause until they're ready it's not gonNA work. It has to get painful unfortunately up until now in this paradigm time in order for them to learn and so we were transitioning out of that model where it has to hurt to learn in Elbit. We're still in the model while we're transitioning out of the model. Lisa Winston is another mutual friend of ours and die interviewed her an episode three hundred and four so mindful tribe you can you can hear her interview. Mindfulness Mo- dot com slash rush three. Oh four but she absolutely loved your book and she said Hallelujah buddies she said she said your book is a resounding and Joyful Hallelujah for this long awaited and much needed guide for healers and light workers I I mean she's just completely on the same page she totally gets you and gets your book and I just thought your book was phenomenal. Samuel and I can't wait to go back to it and back to it and back to A. because it keeps on speaking it. Does I need to go back to. Because I carrie personality I gotta keep learning from it to all the same lessons in the books. I haven't mastered it right like that's the master. Why did he goes a master in part of White Eagle is in me but also I am learning to so there is a way of like this collaboration? I've gotta work through all the lessons just like everybody. Yeah there's so much to learn so much to immerse ourselves into and and sometimes when we think we've done that we've really only hit the very tip of the iceberg if that. Oh it's so cool that you've put all this together and made this this something that we can all all drink from. This is really really fantastic. I WanNa ask you a question about bullying. Because I've worked in this field for a long time. For over a decade Akkadian. I always ask a question related to this. Have you ever been bullied carry or have you ever experienced this in one way or another where you would have a story ready to share with us where mindfulness would have made a difference. Yeah so I actually have been bullied quite a bit. Which Story to pick Well so a safe story pick is. I've been bullied. I was bullied when I won this new town when I was going into junior high and I I was twelve at the time and as soon as I showed up at the town this boy liked me and so I started you know dating him. Well it turns out. He had a girlfriend her name. Was You know we'll say okay. L. Because I don't want to call her out so L. was in. She didn't like this. Obviously NL and L. was very tough L. had a lot of muscle and she was very tough often. She you know she knew how to fight and people are afraid of her so I started going to the bus stop and one day L.. Like one hundred people together to quake come to the bus stop and watch me get beat up I dodged it an an manages magically. Didn't the bus came. But that wasn't the end right 'cause L. does not satisfied because I'll want to get me. Though later on that day. Friend rings the Doorbell. I opened the door. He coaxes oxide. And who rounds the Corner News. I'm outside but out at that moment and I think it's because of this soul guide I've had my whole life is White Eagle something in me drop D and I just knew I'm not gonNA avoid this and I'm not going to compromise my integrity my ethics in this moment either so this power came inside me and I just stood right and I looked at her and she was angry and I said I really see you're angry. I mean this is me at thirteen or twelve. Where did this come from? I really see you're angry and I see I see you WANNA fight. That's not who I am. I don't fight but if you want to punch me go right ahead. If it make you feel better. That's fine so she punched me and then I was like great. I hope you still better now and it hurt but this other thing was bigger inside me. She wasn't good enough then she really wanted to attack me so I ran into the house. Because she didn't get the the thing she wanted like the negative energy back so I ran into the house. I called the police while what happened was the police came. I told them what happened and they went to her house. Now Elle's father used to beat her regularly which is how L. learned how to beat up beautiful so he beat the daylights out of her after the cops laughed and then brought over to my house to apologize to my family a and to me she took me outside and she said. Can you please come outside with me and I was like thinking. I'm going to be okay as so I but now she's submissive now. So I I went outside with Ernest. Said what's going on. And she said I want to apologize to you at any to be my friend because if you're not my friend and you don't forgive me. My father father will be me again and he's already beaten me really badly before I came over here and he'll do it again if you don't forgive me as I wanted to ask you to be my friend. I said I'm happy to be. Your friend. gave her a hug. Dot I think is the secret to really understanding why people bully is because they've been trained and domesticated bully and they think that that is the that that is power. Is that power over someone else and and really it's fear it's a lot of fear Dat scarcity in that you're taking something from them that they want or they're intimidated by you in some way and they need to prove themselves to other people to get some sense of power and I think that we can stand and I would call that courageous heart. Which is the last chapter of the book? I think we can stand in our open courageous loving hearts and know when when someone is doing that that they're coming from some really deep conditioning. That's probably ancestral. That's why they're acting the way that they act but that underneath underneath all that crust is a beautiful soul. That's crying out for help. I totally believe that I totally believe that carry. Oh incredible story in what a turn of events since that happened. Nobody would have thought of that. And I didn't talk bad about her or anything so the whole thing just faded away. I never actually really saw her again. So Oh interesting. Carry as we move forward in the interview. I WanNa ask you five quick answer questions so just thirty seconds are perfect. The first one is this who is one in person who has influenced mindfulness in your life. One Person My dad. Yeah he sounds like a great man. He's amazing how is mindfulness influence. Affected your emotions. It's helped me to deal with them. Because I've learned actually I love. I love human design type because it really explains a lot of things but I'm emotionally centered and so I need to come to stillness before I react or like try to resolve awesome In I had to come to stillness I till the emotions pass and then I get clarity and if I know that when I was you know I mean I did pretty good at that story just told you but I also lots of other stories where I let the emotions really get a hold of me and like swing me out into the crazy behavior if I hadn't known. Hey Hey you're emotionally centered. You need to like come to stillness before you of your sanity back and you know the next step really been really helpful information so Yeah Yeah Mindfulness helps me to come to stillness. So that I can let the tide of emotion sweep through me and then I can know the truth toes breathing. Part of your mindfulness. Well I stop breathing. alati realized at one point right as I was growing up as an gotta you know going to a really high peak mountain is a really good exercise in breathing. You realize like when you're holding your breath actually when you have to be breathing because otherwise you'll die because that's high altitude so I had been working on deep breathing. A leading up to that event and as I was hiking up the mountain which is really hard to do it all Tude. I was really mindful. About how many times yes. I would stop breathing because I started thinking about something so that is a good exercise. If anybody out there is facing active mind and it makes you stop breathing. mm-hmm because you're thinking about the thing that is in your mind and then you stop breathing and then you wonder why you feel anxious and your body's saying hey I don't have any oxygen right now. Well you know you're trying to kill me. Maybe start breathing so I think it's breathing is essential for your body to feel it'll save now. It's really important deep breathing. It sure is I totally agree your book carry. The second wave is amazing and mindful tribe. You Know Oh definitely. Check out. Carries website carry hummingbird dot. Com and carry is K. E. R. R. I.. hummingbird spell the regular way. Eh Kerry hummingbird DOT COM and check out Carey's book which is called the second way but carry. Are there any other books that you would recommend ended are related to mindfulness. Well my first book I wrote is called Awakening to me and tells the story of like the INS and the Alex of how I pulled myself from total mental chatter out into being a healer because at that was the two year journey that is documented. That has a lot of helpful tips in there and these along the way if you identify with any part of that it's really awful when your brain won't shut up and you don't know what to do about it. That's like the most painful experience so i. I really sympathize with that also so one of my other favorite books is the four agreements by Danni governor. We's Oh my goodness what an amazing book. So simple handed out to every third grader place. It's a great bark. Doc loved that book and I love the I love the work of Paul Selig because I really feel he's done channeled work of the I am presence. It's an. I feel like a lot of this mental chatter in a Lotta. The struggle with being peaceful has to do with the energetics and has to do with lifting ourselves out of a density on city it into a higher place in that work I have found be very effective and doing not for me anyway so I I like that. I like those series of quite a bit all right. Thanks for all that and I'll put it in our show notes. Mindfulness Mode Dot Com and are there any apps that you would recommend. That can help with mindfulness. Well I think think any meditation. APPS are helpful I would actually recommend drummed journey music like if people have not experimented with drum dirty music yet that that is another avenue. That's really helpful because drum. Actually quiets your mind. Out of Beta into Alpha and Sandra Inkerman has a really great. CD of them call call soul journeys. And that's just I love those I think are the only fifteen minutes apiece and they really help your brain you know. Get Out of that weird Betas state and back into like Data Alpha state where you could do some soul dreaming and interact with something bigger than you. It's just so much more pleasant. I have a little spacious inside. If you want to grade suggestion yes that can can be an awesome experience. Well it's been an awesome experience talking with you. Carrie Carrie and thank you. Yeah thank you so much for being on mindfulness mode thank you for having me. I really really appreciate you saying all the things you said about the book it helps you. I was very grateful for that. And I'm so grateful to have been on the show and hopefully a helped everybody out there with some new information that they didn't have yet though for sure. And if if you're at the end of the podcast listening in you forgotten the website remember Kerry k. e. r. i. Hummingbird Dot Com so check out the website and enjoy enjoy enjoy. I'm sure you will. Thanks Carrie thank you for all the best bye now. Thanks so much for joining joining us today on mindfulness mode for show notes for every episode. GIECO MINDFULNESS MODE DOT COM and tight. The guest's name or the episode number into into the search bar. You can also mindfulness mode dot com slash. Whatever episode number? You like if you enjoyed this podcast you you can help us out by subscribing to mindfulness mode. Wherever you listen whether it's on I tunes or Stitcher Google play spotify so many places? You can hear mindfulness mode so hit subscribe and share because that truly helps our show. 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The Magic in the Vagus Nerve; Melanie Weller
"Mindfulness mode your future is behind. You propelling you forward and your past is in front of you waiting for you to make peace with it and clear your way reach new heights calm. Focus and happiness here and mindfulness mode with me. Your host and mindfulness life coach. Bruce lankford mindful tribe. Today we're going to talk about a topic that we have never talked about before on the show. And you might find that interesting because we've talked lots of times about meditation. We've talked lots of times about well so many aspects of mindfulness. But today we're going to be talking about the vegas nerve and the vegas nerve. We've mentioned it. You might know about it or you might not stay tuned because this is going to be such an interesting episode. And i'm here today with the expert on the vegas nerve. I'm here today with melanie. Weller melania mindfulness. Today absolutely i strive to live in mindfulness mode and not just to have it be a segment at my day. That's a that's a great thing to strive for. And i do the same so melanie. What does mindfulness mean to you. And then we'll get started talking about the vegas nerve to me. Being mindful is really being fully embodied to being like body full or like instead of mindset. I actually liked the term body. Because i think mind is kind of this slippery energy. Sometimes that's not You know our minds don't always have our best interests in mind. I think the But your body will always tell you the truth and to really bring mindfulness into the by really It bridges the gap between our conscious and subconscious and like brings all of our shadow elements into light and Allows for an aspect of flow in our lives that i think we're all seeking in terms of reconciling our inner and outer worlds. Well it's interesting that you say that about the mind because you know i know the mind can bully us quite a bit in. It can lie to us quite a bit. Tell us things that it thinks will protect us but that is not necessarily the case. Well let's get digging in about the vegas nerve you tell us what is the vagus nerve. Where does it live. What's it all about. The vegas nerveless almost everywhere. It is your tenth cranial nerve. We all have twelve of them and so it starts in our brain stem and it goes all the way down into the pelvis. It invades our vocal cords our hearts and our justice systems. When it comes out of the brain stem it actually goes down to the heart and loops. Back up to the vocal cords. So i like to think of it as the nerve that allows us to speak our hearts as it travels down the esophagus and goes through your diaphragm into your digestive system. It innovates all the muscles of your digestive system in it's involved with digestive enzyme and bil- secretion. You cannot absorb vitamin b. Twelve without your vegas nerve and beyond the motor functions of the vagus nerve it also mediates. I'll say it also mediate sweating inflammation and as a physical therapist. That was really the inflammation mediating part of. It was a reason that i ended up focusing on it. But it also gives sensory information from almost all of your organs up to your brain so we think about how we have a heart brain gut brain that those are really neurologically driven by your vegas nerve in the research in general when you're vegas nervous functioning better. Everything tends to be better. The range of influence that the vagus nerve has on your body is huge. How well your biggest functions has predictive value for how long patients with pancreatic cancer will live women with complete spinal cord. Injuries can achieve orgasm. Las vegas nerve stimulation at the cervix in the research. They will often put an electrical stimulator on the vegas nerve when they do that. It reverses the mitochondria defects defend themselves that go with heart disease and even re maps your brain at the highest levels for no one of the things you say about the vegas nervous that it's our portal to health growth and success. That's pretty incredible. It's been so much fun to develop so much further beyond the physical body. I have in the last ten years or so. I think it's really helpful to think. The vegas nerve is the bridge between our stories and our bodies trauma and stress always affect the voice in the breath and we can relate to that because if we get startled or had promise like we tend to gas was screamer. Were can't scream. you know. there's always this relationship. Between the voices. In the breath expresses itself and our boca cords and our diaphragm are horizontally oriented in the body. Did not know that. I did not know they were horizontal. And and why is that important to know. Well whenever we get stressor traumatized rotation is the first thing we give up so like. Nobody has stressed or trauma and walks with really beautiful. Arming all lock up. Trunks and bring our arms closer to our bodies and so these horizontal structures influence rotation. Because they're on our transports playing on the plane in which were rotating when we walk and so are pelvic floors and so there's a series of horizontal structures in the body. Where your vegas nerve is likely to get hung up or has more potential than other places to get hung up those structures. Don't i- contextualized a lot of this around the biggest nerve because of the because of the power it holds as an individual structure. But you're really compressing everything that goes vertically through the body and if you can't have internal flow you can't have extra flow in your life and these blockages to flow happen. I've found for very specific reasons. There's really decode this in. When we talk a lot about stress we know that stresses seventy five to ninety percent of all disease and dysfunction. But we don't really define what that is like. We know that. Meditation and mindfulness increases the length of your telomeres. And and it improves your vegas nerve function to and it has all these really beautiful physiologic effects but we don't really think about. What is that underlying stress. That's keeping us out of. Coherence is the term that the research uses being between our hearts and our brains in terms of vegas nerve coherence an in having a optimal heart rate variability. Which is the gold standard measure for the vegas nerve in the throes of my own midlife crisis. This really became apparent to me for a couple of reasons and feel free to stop me. Because i'm going to give you kind of a long spiel here if you want to to break this up at all. My superpower is really in helping people with those spiritual stress related underpinnings of their physical dysfunction. And i really love that and to see what's going on in their life that's really showing up in their body and sometimes it can be very obvious like patients that have the way to the world on their shoulders or foot pain patients that are literally tripping over their lives. And this is what. I learned really through working with patients for years and years and especially I will say vary that the universe is really brought me the ones that had not found success elsewhere and so i was constantly getting kicked out of the box and trying to figure out what was going on with them. Because the last three physical therapists in you know a long lineage of other practitioners both conventional and alternative that they had seen had not figured it out and so i loved that detective work so in the throes of my own midlife crisis i had two big realizations through some reading. Did one is that. Mythology was a mode of communicating scientific information so for example in the ancient myth of isis. To know cyrus are the numbers are numbers of the processional cycle. And so the story was away. They communicated about the cosmology. They just wrote science differently than we do now. And my first question. When i saw that was. Oh what's twenty three and a half degrees in the mid line of the body because the earth said about twenty three and a half degree tilt right now and as a pt. My that's just where my brain works a lot. What's happening right and left. And you know how hard things sitting relative to the mid line of the body and in all of my anatomy books. And i've had a chance to look at real skulls. Sense when you send her a protracted her on the opening where your spinal cord comes out the opening where your vegas nerve comes out is twenty three and a half degrees up from the horizon of that line and it was very profound for me just to find that this seemed to be such a consistent measurement from my biomechanical knowledge. I know that i could rattle off other joint values normal rotation between your first and second. Cervical vertebrae is forty seven degrees to each side. And then there's forty seven degrees between the poll stars that are earth points towards over thousands of years and so we're literally synchronizing with the bigger picture with the earth and we now through the research now that when solar and face weather disrupts the electromagnetic field of the earth. It's measurable and our vegas nerves. Wow is it really. I find the science of this absolutely fascinating. Not only the twenty. Three and a half degrees. Which is the same as the tilt of the earth but also that the vegas nerve appears to branch in naci pattern thing that the solar system has totally does that the solar system does now. It really does and we know there. I don't know the research around that on the nerve. But i do know that we know coronary arteries branch and instead of the naci pattern and the ratio of the bones to make up the tips of our fingers to the middle bone to the proximal bone to the handbook. You know that all of those little in the length of our forum arm. I'll follow that math as well like we are literally all made in that in that math. And yeah i love how the vagus nerve start starts up. At the brain senate gets has more and more branches. The digestive system is the biggest set of route so it is closely connected to our immune system. Isn't it absolutely absolutely. There's you know. I don't think the research is conclusive as to to this. But you know certainly in the way that while one seventy percent of our immune systems are guts. And if you're vegas nervous innovating your gut and regulating a lot of the physiology. And they're having a better functioning. Vegas is going to give you a better functioning. Immune system absolutely and if patients that have better functioning. Vegas nerves and pancreatic cancer are the ones that live the longest. That's a big statement as to the power of that it has on the immune system so certainly as we're recording this in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic. It's taking care of your vegas nerve is really critical to your immune function and i think a really good at to all the other. Good things that you would do for yourself in terms of eating well and taking vitamin c and vitamin d and then melatonin and things like that. I was just going to say there are four major ways. We can take care of our vegas nerve right four pillars that you talk about in your in your teachings and you can tell us about those four pillars. Because i think that's extremely important for us to do. I look at it. A lot from the mechanical standpoint because of contend that when we are stressed and traumatized are vegas. Nerve itself has actually traumatized in. You can take the stress and trauma mechanical stress and trauma off the vagus nerve. It opens up a portal to taking the emotional and spiritual stress. Off of it. That i find is a really beautiful accelerator or shortcut. To where you're going you absolutely have to take care of it nutritionally if you're diets loaded with sugar. It's just gonna make it harder to have a really healthy vegas nerve because of sugars influence on inflammation in the body. You're making your vegas number. Four carter and how important is exercise. Exercise is incredibly important. Because you're vegas nerve uses the same neurotransmitter that your muscles do. And that's been part of my interest in it as a clinician. Because for example. I can use a technique to decompress the vagus nerve at the base of the skull and it will change how somebody's foot and ankle and knee are moving and it's so much fun because it's sort of like a magic trick that you can treat at one place and get these really profound shifts in in what seems like a completely unrelated part of the body and so i really love that part of it but but movement is going to up your estatal. Because that's what your muscles are using you know. Exercise is medicine you know. Their movement has incredible benefits for it. And unless you are in stage for heart failure or house. Some specific autoimmune things like most people can really work out at about seventy percent of their max. You know there are just a handful of very specific diagnoses that would bring it down lower than that and so exercise is especially good medicine when it's properly dosed and that's one of the things that that i ended up walking people through a lot because they are not always dosing it. Ideally and how about sleep. How important is sleep to the vagus nerve. Well sleep is important for everything for sure. I think the relationship with the vagus nerve asleep is interesting. Because better vegas nerve function will give you better sleep patterns to sleep patterns will also give you better vegas nerve function and so sometimes we can't get into that space to really calm down to get to sleep. When are sympathetic. systems are dominant. So your biggest nervous. The biggest component of your para sympathetic nervous system. So it's your grace under pressure you're calm. You're rest and digest and pleasure. Sexual arousal is is largely of sympathetic event as well and so things that feel good are are part of that and we're all very good at practicing feeling terrible about ourselves and our world. We don't always take a lot of time to practice feeling good. That's true that is absolutely true. You know sleep is a little bit of a. I think it's kind of the most interesting where you have to kind of finesse. It a little bit. Because you're vegas never has to be in a certain zone. I think to get to sleep more easily but like you just have. We all have to sleep. Sleep is incredible medicine. And so the more you can really honor your body's drive for sleep. You know where the only creatures that have artificial life that we can trick our brains out of our natural circadian rhythms. Well i find it pretty fascinating that you talk about the trauma and how trauma can affect our vegas nerve. Does that even mean trauma during birth. Oh absolutely vegas nerve. Dysfunction in infants can show up as catholic and projectile vomiting. So getting the system right in an engine can make a family's life so much more pleasant than it would otherwise be. Because you don't have a screaming baby that's pain and how do you get it right. In an infant. I work with people both online and in person and i want a minute. I want to circle back to the the second part of my discovery after all those all those angles in an infant. There's there's manual techniques. That i do that. I can teach the parents to free up the vagus nerve in the infant and i don't specialize in anthony but i have treated them. I've done that a number of times over the years and treated my own children and it's been incredible. It's an I've been very grateful for my skill set in my parenting life as well as it comes in quite handy in terms of you know fixing everything from ear infections too know when my kids high schoolers now and they play football and helping their recovery from any kind of injuries they had associated or bumps and bruises associated with that birth can be really traumatic. It can cost specific dysfunctions within the spine. That are similar to what happens when somebody gets a concussion. You know sometimes like trying to be born. The baby quite literally ended up with a concussion. But you know because it's a baby in the skull. Nice and adaptable and things like that. We don't address it that way. And they're certainly many benefits to especially the having a vaginal birth. And having you know in terms that has a good effect on the base microbiome and you just in terms of clearing them out of what they need to be cleared out in that process but it sometimes those dysfunctions really stay with us well into our adult years and i put my hands on several people's heads and immediately asked them if they had a forceps pulled out by four. Because you can still feel. Where the forceps clamp down on the side of their head there's still an imprint of that in heads as you can see visually abs absolutely and so we do like injuries can linger. They're they're much older than we sometimes really thinking in terms of the stress that drives it my first introduction to that that really helped me make sense of what i was already. Proceeding in. my patients was reading Caroline maces anatomy of spirit. She takes through the seven shockers and seven. I i'm probably not pronouncing this right Safer routes from the cabala and seven sacraments and christianity and matches them. All up right they say for more than seven ten matches all up and says this is who we are spiritually. So like our first shocker. On our legs about a relationship with our tribe second shockers. Our relationship with others third shockers our bellies our relationship with ourselves. You know fourth shocker. Heart love shockers. Speaking truth your voice. So i would just number of years i would just sort of casually ask people about what they're that any problem like. Tell me what your relationship is with people in general in your life you know. What's kinda groups. are you part of. Or what's your role you know. Tell me about your life just kind of. It's always very subtle about how i brought it up because sometimes it required a certain amount of gauging how opened to have opens. Somebody was talking about this. What i discovered later on is that in a spirit of mythology being mode of talking about science that there are so many other myths that are coated into our bodies in that we can use those stories to really dig into what are stress is and it's so important because the difference between acute sub acute pain and chronic pain. Is that chronic. Pain gets locked into our limbic systems. And that's where our emotions are and you cannot logic yourself out of your limbic system. You need an emotional key to get out of there. And so i see a lot of people who The question i usually ask them It's filling your cup draining you. They're very good at got all sorts of stuff that they can do. They know lots of things to do. But they're not connecting with the feeling part of it to unlock that chronic pattern and they're often very overwhelmed by the laundry list of things that they could do to help with that and so the easiest way to understand. This is through western astrology though. I'll give some examples from other traditions as well so the ventricles and the brain that makes abel's spinal fluid look very much like the rams horns that represent areas and so in the strategy aries rules ahead and your highway bone in your throat sits on top of your larynx very much like the symbol for tourists and tourists rules the throat and are a arctic arches in our hearts are the same shape as a symbol for. Leo leo rules the heart and so it works this way the hallway through the body the brain stem and cerebellar together. Look very much like the hindu deity. Ganesh on the underside. Our brains and the biblical story the temple of the ark of the covenant describes our cranial anatomy in quite a bit of detail a fena Dean of symbol was the al and we have a bone that sits right behind our eyes and optic nerves. Nerves go through at commerce bone. That looks like an owl interesting. And so like. I'm able to for somebody with say headaches or neck pain to say where you're heroin said odds with your desires like whereas that areas we mars warrior energy odds with white with what you desire or you know. Are you showing up as the kind evening. The hero in everybody else's story except your own or you satisfying everybody else's desires except your own and so i find that really really useful to getting to those underpinnings and beyond that. I created a form of energy medicine from that that i teach to healthcare practitioners. Well that's interesting. Tell me about that. How can you get involved in learning from you about using your techniques in healthcare. I open the fourth. Once a year usually around march we go for a good three or four months of weekly teachings and then some integration. Time as well in that so that you really Can understand it. And if people want to connect with me over that If you go to embody your star dot com that will that's my often that will send you a free vegas nerve decompression course and there's a whole bunch of other goodies there as well and there's a link to set up a meeting with me if you wanna talk about. Being a student embody your star dot com so remember that three easy words embody your star dot com now melanie. I'm so interested in this whole topic. And one of the reasons is because i just keep thinking about how it may apply to me personally when i was born it was probably a traumatic birth so i have several reasons to think that and when i was only a few months old like probably about Less than six months old. I got pneumonia. And i almost died from pneumonia and then later i seem to have a very poor immune system so every time my parents would let me go outside and play a little child i would get sick and so the doctor said you just have to keep him inside and so i was on penicillin all the time because i was constantly constantly sick and then when i was about six years old someone said to my mother. Oh you should take him to a chiropractor because maybe that person can help him and so as soon as she took me to this car proctor. The chiropractor said oh you have some issues in your spine. That probably were result of a difficult birth. And i will be able to realign your spine and make this change. And then you won't have any problem with your little boy. As far as you know his immune system and getting sick all the time and indeed. That happened he he just did a few treatments and then i no longer had that issue now. My mother told me of the the five boys she gave birth to. I was the biggest and the most difficult child to give birth to. And that's why i suspect. Maybe it was traumatic. And when i yeah when i was around twelve fourteen years old My voice didn't change. And i became this person who felt like i had no voice. I felt like. I couldn't speak because if i did people would either laugh. They would bully me or You know i just. I just felt closed. I felt closed off from the world in this way. And when i was around twenty one twenty twenty one i was at college and again. I kept asking for help asking for help. And and the college doctor sent me to a specialist and that specialist knew immediately how to help me find my voice and then at that point my life completely change because i found my true voice at that point but wh how is all this related to the vegas nerve or is it. Oh it is absolutely well. I'll say one your biggest innovates your local court. So that is sending in humming are great for exercises for your biggest nerve but that finding our voice is really opening up our vegas nerves and I think in terms of vegas function. It's very much about feeling her. Cultivating the sense of feeling safe and pleasurable and trusting of yourself within yourself. The trust researched focuses lot around oxytocin. Which is the hormone. The gets the most press around helping mothers and new babies bond because it's released with breastfeeding okay. But we all release oxytocin to connected to the. It's what gives us the feeling of being connected to other people and our hearts which are innovated by our vegas nerves make oxytocin. Our hearts are actually underground glands glands and so you know and there's a lot of information that are about trusting out about how trust works with other people but there's not as much about how trust works with ourselves and i think you know from that immune function because there's definitely the physical mechanical piece of the vegas nerve and other aspects of your body and your nervous to send that that you need to be in line just like the chiropractor did for you That when we've been under stress we're constantly reinforcing that we're not safe in our bodies. Were not safe in our bodies. We're not safe in our bodies and so that just gets reinforced and reinforced and reinforced. And then we end up on the hamster wheel in our minds and we're completely disembodied. That's really what trump does to us anyway. It shoves our energy outside of ourselves outside of ourselves and which is a great strategy in the acute traumatic moment. It's just not a practical long-term strategy. It's not sustainable because When your is not inside of you there's just they're going to be consequences and a lotta times that does show up as physical pain. Which is where. I got the bulk of my experience with it. But it also shows up as emotional stress and patterns like in. I work with entrepreneurs. And you know i can ask those entrepreneurs that same question about their business like wear your heroin and odds with your desires because that impairs your vision and if your business vision is clare those that try out of things between vision heroics and desires ends up being skewed and they are always lacking clear vision in their business too and so their business embodying their business. I think the only rule we ever really follow is as above so below. You know what i described to you about the anatomy with respect to the astrology earlier is just how the cosmos is coded into us and the betas describe our anatomy as well. And there's a and. I think that's the that's the constant story that we i think we only write stories in that context and the more we can realized how that story with. Ns living playing outside of us and vice versa. How that story outside of us is living in our bodies. That's where the magic of alignment really is. Melanie can you tell us about some on that. You've helped someone that you've made a major difference for the person i'm thinking of was a Here's a college administrator. And she had been through a couple of different physical therapists for her back pain. She had even I saw her here locally. I shade even driven up to baton rouge which is about an hour and a half away to get treatment up there because somebody recommended you know. She was not messing around. She wanted to figure out how to get better. And it presented in conventional terms very much like a herniated disk and it was quite debilitating for her. And i got her diaphragm back. In the right decision they know through the manual techniques energy techniques and the having her do some exercises and she gets off the table and her first reaction is that she's kind of confused like she's wrinkling her bra because she can't figure out where cain wedge like this is. This is hurt so many other times. When i've gotten up and now it's not hurting what she's looking around a little bit confused and then she was angry because she had. She's like why didn't why wasn't this easy. It shouldn't have been easy to get better. And why didn't this happen sooner. So that's really one of my favorite reaction. That is so interesting. She was angry. Did that anger last very long. No no but all of the leading pain science experts will tell you that they get really excited when somebody cries gets angry when they explained pain to them or work with their treatment. Because then they know they're going to get better because they're getting into that limbic system and you're releasing that the chronic pain and i suspect that not just chronic pain lives in our limbic systems but chronic limiting beliefs chronic habits. That you know because we're all emotionally attached to those things so she just had a big emotional release. She would probably still grumble a little bit but she has a good sense of divine order in the world to that. You always get what you when things come to you at the right time. You're ready to receive the so then. Is it true that you can work remotely with almost anyone. Yeah yeah and that's been just such a joy for me to have that different format and figure it out and so like recently. I worked with an entrepreneur. Who was really for the purposes of making a breakthrough in her business in business terms. I would say that that hip issue is where her inspiration her structure were at odds with each other and she sure enough. Because i picked up energetically. And i asked her that question. I said tell me where you know where you're what you're inspired to do. Isn't like the you don't feel like you can do it because of some system or something that's happening and she had a very clear answer for where she was struggling and she did how some hip pain. It wasn't enough to require medical attention or anything like that but as we talk through it and got it sorted out in her body and in our business than her hip pain went away in that session to trusting and so we be really embodied the stress in these. Yeah i think it's so important to capture it address when it subclinical before you end up needing to be in medical professionals office not that. That's i mean we're all here for that you know and but the but i think that business has a in our public health and their schools and things like that have a real opportunity to front end the so that fewer people and up needing reactive treatment that you know in you know to give people some of these tools so that they can start to figure out where you carry stress in what story. You're literally living i One of my favorite stories That i use and my brother that. I'm writing right now threads how i've lived the story that it's the egyptian myth of isis cyrus. And i'll give you just the nutshell. Version of a cyrus was the king of egypt and his brother sat was jealous and angry and wanted to be king. And so set trick desirous into laying down in a bejewelled coffin. Had his soldiers shut the lid. Nail it carry him to the nile river to send him downstream to his death cyrus his wife isis found out about this and she retrieved his body took them to a cave and breathe new life into him when set found out about this he was furious and so he tracked down. The cyrus chopped his body into pieces and scattered the pieces down the river. And then i again when she found out about this she retrieved all of his pieces and brought him back to the cave. She was able to find everything except for his phallus and for that she made a new one and she brought him back to life long enough to conceive their divine child. Horace and then a cyrus went on to be king of the underworld which for the egyptians was where all life came from an all treasures were found. And if you were close to cyrus in that story you probably would have thought that his destiny was to be the king of egypt and yet as too. True destiny was become the king of the underworld and he literally had to be dismembered to come back together in a new way. And we use dismemberment metaphors in our language all the time. We say we can't get it together. Were falling apart. Our lives are shattered. Our hearts are broken and so and that's really the gift trauma in the opportunity in it is because you can't be the same person that you were in. The opportunity is to be a much more expanded version of yourself and to You know open the door doors to an entirely new way of being you know and i recognize as the lifelong healer. I've certainly played the role of isis in my life. But i've been through the o. Cyrus mooned to my body was falling apart and my marriage was had gotten unstable and i had a professional lawsuit against me in that you know in all at the same time like i was literally coming apart from all sides and but i've also been set. You know i've liked that Reactive angry brother. We play like you. When you realize that you're really all of the characters in these stories and that you have aspects of all that it just it opens up a whole new way to be and you know in the way that we're human beings and not human doings so much of really having good vagus nerve function is being full of yourself in the best possible way right right. I want to ask you a question about bullying. Have you ever been bullied or did you ever bully someone. Do you have a story where mindfulness would have made a difference. Sure yeah no. I as a young kid. I was definitely bullied. And i totally relate to your story about voice. Because i did not. I grew up in a house where it wasn't. My parents weren't physically abusive or anything. But it just wasn't really safe to express your emotions was a little more business. I can identify with that with. And so i didn't have the stunts that i had a voice at home and i will say i was shy child and i could go back and say that maybe even very early on. I didn't trust myself by youth choir instructor growing up i did church choir kindergarten through eighth grade and i did it largely to please my parents because you know and i told my mom really not very many years ago. I said she was jeff. I wanted my report cards from high school. I said you know. I got all those aid because i was terrified of you guys and she said she let him and she said he thought we wouldn't love you. If you didn't get great. Absolutely that was the. I don't think that's anything they ever intended to create. But that's the story. I made up in. You know that. I got in my head anyway so i really was the good girl and i thought i had to do choir. And the youth choir instructor used to make me mouth the words because my voice was strong but not always perfectly up to her standards especially. I grew up outside of washington. Dc and we would sometimes perform at the kennedy center big musicals for the church and especially if we were doing something big. I had the mouth the words and so just that reinforcement of years and years. I didn't feel like i could tell my parents. Because i thought i had to do choir. I know that i was worth defending our that. I was worth asserting or that. My feelings and my desires were important. True in this. And i think that those situations in like that's really you know in mindfulness. I think the most valuable thing or at least one of the most valuable things you can get out of it is that self love and self compassion and knowing the you matter you are matter boy literally and that it's the you know in that place through our language to and so having that You know and i think just it's hard to say children just no. You don't always have the same perspective that you have when you know as an adult but i can. I can look at my choir instructor now and see you know what i know about her life since then and see where. She was really suffering in her life to you know and she and i gave her the role of set in my life. Basically saying that isis. Oh cyrus myth. I gave her that role. And that i've come to specialize in the nerve that interface the vocal chords. I've had the thought that. Maybe i should give her a call and thank you know. I realized how. I really created this situation of being bullied or you know stifled to get to where i am right now. Which is which. I love interesting. Very interesting melanie as we move forward in the interview. I want to ask you five. Quick answer questions and so just thirty. Second answers are perfect. The first one is this who is one person who has been powerful. Mindfulness influence in your life dawson church. How his mindfulness affected your emotions. Oh transcended the anger tell us. How breathing is part of your mindfulness. Practice Breathing is My diaphragm i consider my personal earth and so breathing. What grounds me. You already suggested. A book anatomy of the spirit. Are there any other books that you would recommend that are related to mindfulness. Absolutely two of my favorites are finding your way in a wild new world by martha beck and lis- brain by dawson church okay. I'll put all of that into our show notes. At mindfulness mode dot com. The last question sure an app which can help with mindfulness. I am not an app person. And my mindfulness practice requires me to remove myself from all electron and a lot of my guests. Say the same thing but every once in a while somebody that has a really great app. So yeah i'm not Yeah i'm not an a huge at parts in for mindfulness type stuff. You've been working with people for a long time. You have twenty five years of experience helping people and you've been a certified athletic trainer and you've worked with aging adults. You've worked with so many different people. What words of advice would you have for our listeners. Right now that is related to the vegas nerve that can kind of help our listeners. Get on track for twenty twenty one. So one of the common compression points to the vagus nerve is on the backside of the heart and we store inflammation on the backside of our hearts as well and a lot of us. Have that tight. Upper back feeling just from work and and whatnot and if you were going to do one thing and i You know in my online courses. I have this laid out a little bit more specifically but i think really breathing into the backside of your heart inhaling to give some more space right there and as you do that you can think of this proverb from Tribe in the andes mountains and they stayed that your future is behind you propelling forward and your is in front of you waiting for you to make peace with it and clear your way and to really sink into that feeling that your future has your back and it's not something that you have to go chase. You know that you're being guided and supported and to really develop language with your body to trust that process. And i think as we the future right now especially seeing this very uncertain unnerving in many ways for variety of different reasons that really just Breathing into the backside of your heart knowing that your feature has your back would be one thing that i would really like everybody to carry twenty twenty one. Thank you so much. mindful tribe. Go to embody your star dot com and take that free That free opportunity to learn about the vegas nerve and how it affects. You and i been very fascinated to talk with you. Melanie and Thank you so much for being on the show. Thank you so much. I is so grateful to you for sharing your platform. So i can use my voice because i get healed a little more every time. I get to do things like this. I think you although that's cool. Well you have a great rest of your day and a wonderful twenty twenty one hank you you too bye now. 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Aligning To Success and Abundance; Daniel Mangena
"Mindfulness mode frequency has a really big impact on us as humans. Right because we're energy energy moves according to frequency mindful tribe. Welcome to the show. Great to have you here. I'm going to start something new next week on sunday night when i always published my episode. I'm going to start doing solo episodes every monday. And i'm just going to be sharing a little bit more about myself. What i've learned about. Mindfulness i can help you with about mindfulness. I will be answering questions if you have a question that you'd like me to talk about on the show next week. Email me bruce. At mindfulness mode dot com. And i'd be very happy to talk about it and also you know i'm doing hypnosis. Now helping people who are stock who want to move ahead in their life and they just feel frustrated for one reason or another so do connect with me. Bruce sat mindfulness mode dot com. And we'll we'll set something up. We'll talk about what i can do to help you and we'll make it happen. So oh and if your question gets chosen to be discussed on next week show. I will send you a free. Mindfulness mod t shirt. So how's that. Yeah get your question into me bruce. Up mindfulness dot com. And we'll talk about it next week on the show so back and enjoy today's episode. I'm here mindful tribe with a really fun guy who loves to laugh and he loves to teach and help people. I'm here with daniel manu ghana daniel great to have you with us. How are you. I'm glad that we made this happen to me to create this experience with you me too for sure. Are you in mindfulness mode today. Dan let me check his. It's great and i while. I always start with this question dan. What does mindfulness mean to you. The mindfulness is just being aware like having a conscious awareness of what's going on internally i think one of the challenges that sometimes people face is trying to control what's going on in their mind versus building a healthy relationship where we can communicate and build an expansive internal environment that begins with having an awareness of what's going on in infamy. That's what mindfulness is control. What's that. I've never wanted to control anything. How about you dan. I do best to novel. Go into controlling bowed but when fix in very natural human response anxiety. We start to free. And i'm gonna do. I need to control the outcomes. But i do my best to actually be deliberate. Walk right in the first place and they have a trust in creating the first place. So i don't try and go and control after. Yeah yeah that is that is awesome and you know as a teacher i looked back and i think wow. There was a time when i thought that was my job to control the students in the classroom and control the environment and control myself. And all this once. I learned that it wasn't my job in there. It was more important to let go rather than control. Things started to work a lot. Better does that make sense to you. Definitely more fly when we let go. Yeah yeah i sure well. Your book is really good stepping beyond intention. It's not your only book but it's a very good book and i enjoyed reading it from cover to cover. There's so much in that book and before we talk about the book. I want to share a little bit more about you daniel with mindful tribe. You're an entrepreneur. Philanthropist your bestselling author and you're also a qualified reality trans surfing practitioner. And i know about that. Because i've interviewed about that topic. Your work has been featured in major publications all over the world including nbc's cbs. And some others. And you've recently been included in the wall street journal's masters of success feature that sow impressive in last summer that happened but i actually keep. I've actually looking at it now and a copy of the of the addition. That's the feature cost of been so exciting and now i'm going to read the most important line at least i think it's one of the most important signs because it says through his work. Daniel aims to serve and uplift the lives of as many people as possible helping them to live abundant joyful purpose driven lives. So how awesome is do you love that life you know. There was a time. When i feel that an inventor was going to do it as being a millionaire was gonna do it. There's a time i thought you know. Being an investment banker was going to do it. But when i got beyond all those stories of society had led me to believe was what was going to light me up and actually through of pain and struggle came to place of actually creating my own relationship to myself until i one of my life my purpose i found twinkling and i am joy. I get to do this every day. Wow that's great now in your book you teach how to choose in the present moment. The paths that lead to the outcomes that we want to experience in the future. And isn't that what it's all about. Tell us how you came to that point. Because i know that you've had some real struggles in the past I would say that. The i read the power of now in two thousand and nine. I think it was like a pair of now. And that's when i was coming off of imprint times for myself and Interestingly i was going to michigan not improve my life. But i wanted to find out what was wrong with how i'd be manifesting up until that point because my intention was actually to commit suicide and i i didn't want to to so i actually saw to improve my ability to manifest i manifest is successful outcome and then two of just fade away into black and on the journey i ended up accidentally polluting. My mind with all these positive inputs. All of these questions. That came forward. And as i read the power of now i understood that they will. They a lot of the ideas that we have about what time is and where we want to do things and how we wanna create get lost in the fact that the only thing. That's real is the present moment everything else you want to call it a dream illusion but the thing that has renamed form my work. Is that when you don't speak to a yoga. Go speak to sharm this. You know the policies a dream in the futures a dream. But if i've got trauma or things have gone really wrong for me the male pre because they're affecting me now so that step of my beyond intention paradigm which is the force that model that the book is around aimed to get us to a relationship with the present moment the honors the past because then appointing the head head in the sand about it with taking the wisdom of the experiences. We're taking the lessons without being a slave to the emotional reefs responses and reactions to what's happening taking of that wisdom we can make more expensive forward moving choices now instead of playing the same patterns unconscious and from anxiety and stress and trauma. I know that it's kinda cool. One of the things you talk about is the choice machine. Tell me what that's all about. You know we look at the way. The reality is constructed and this. I'm not coming even this from an esoteric or mystical perspective. Although the science that's being explored even till today really is just adding substance to these mystical ideas. What we're looking at is infinite potential existing in the fact that there are infinite possibilities and outcomes that we can experience and again you know the wu give gets all of that lost right but ultimately what happens is when we look experiments such as the split taste experiment which was first before marketing by thomas young eighteen or one eight hundred two something like that where they started playing with what happens. When they're moving energy. In the form of laboratory one point in another and that the expected result that we receive when when not actually observing and imprinting or enforcing that expected result onto the energy. It just started doing his own thing so they have this light. Beam that split into than it's supposed to come back together and it wasn't anything about expectation. There were literally exploring what was going on between waves particles. They were looking at energy of very pure way but when they want in the room looking at what happened when they weren't actually observing the experiment. It wasn't coming together in a predictive way. It was going into an unpredictable pattern. The thing that we get to pull from that is the expectation at least to some degree. And i'm not saying that expectation but at least to some degree what we expect to happen. When firmly imprinted on the future actually starts to inform energy to take shape in that way shape or form when we look at the fact that we as humans this computer this light this marker find if we take this to its smallest component and open now is ninety nine point nine nine nine percent energy. So the thing that we've been we've seen has been scientifically demonstrated to respond to expectation before he takes shape is what we're all made up of is what reality universities. Who made up of. So when we start consciously directing our expectation to what we want to happen versus unconsciously being led to cream. What we don't want to happen we can start actually create what we want. The choice machine is about taking their idea of expectation. Taking the idea of the fact that consciously or unconsciously we're selecting what formation that energy is going to take and developing a relationship with ourselves so that we're more conscious more of the time more mindful most of the time of what we're expecting and therefore what we're experiencing. Wow wow you're so eloquent with how you explain this. I know that a person who has had a huge impact on you is Doctor joe vitale. Tell us what kind of an impact he has had on you. I'm i'm really interested in that. So when i was on. My johnny is when everybody's talking about the secret. I think the secret in two thousand and seventy thousand a but by the time. I was over a year or two into my journey. Everyone starts talking about this stuff. And i'm like guys. I've been talking about this the years now. And this is really an oversimplified model. The secrets great. Because it open people up to this way of doing things but in the same breath they also kind of create a of the and this is my opinion and people may not agree with it. The cookie cutter car popcorn relationship to reality creation. Which for some people is actually down possible. Not creating what they want for some people yes create what they want but there was a book that joe did called the key right and what the key did was start to verbalize. The days i'd had about the fact that the number of attraction festival as what most people were law retraction is actually a misquote all vibration little bit Crime universal second universal which means that it's dependent on other universe lowest life. The vibration is the primary law. That the law of attraction is based on me being vibrational match for something doesn't mean it's going to come to me means it's available to come to me me focusing on the frequency of why one doesn't bring him all the way to me. It makes it available to come to me. i still need to open up the path to receive it. That's like me going to the stepping up to a baseball don with banner right and the balls are being fired and i'm not hanging. I'm saying well. You know. I've i've just i've just visualizing home run. The ball was coming. I'm not hitting you haven't learnt how they haven't learned how to hold about haven't done how to position my feet. I haven't practiced hitting and then that creates a connection between my vision. My positive thought of hanging out of the park. And actually hitting the paul and joe's book the key went through some of the things they get in the way of us hitting it out of the park or even learning to hit the bat. I ended up starting to build out with my formula bill out. Why kumar clearing toolkit. That book i really had an informal thing before then. Now that's one of the free resources that we share with people on the website and he's just understanding that every single one of us have things a standing in the way of universal law our prayers manifestation of our meditation visualization bringing things into our life. And i think just that taking the the nonsense out of the mix that there is more than just sitting in all ming and thinking. Something's gonna come. That practical insight was really reading. Pack for me and dan. Isn't it true that with all of your coaching clients. You give them a copy of the key to get started. Isn't that what you do. What i give them a clearing toolkit now because the key goes into everything the clearing talk it now just gives us a summary and i keep updating. I'm always checking out new tools. I'm was investigating new tools. Moore's inviting people to give me new tools to check out so now what we do. Is we actually now. Give them the clearing tool kit as a resource for them to start building their own relationship to what's going to clear the path for them to create what they designed or would you tell us more about what's in the clearing toolkit shoe we've got meditation and we've got things like breath work we've got data healing we've got laughter is on a we've got movement we've got a we've got hypnotherapy on there we've got auditee rapid transformation therapy which are really really powerful as well to name a few there lots and lots and lots and like i said i'm always on the lookout for more stuff. The some lesser known stuff like speak which is a really great modality that empowers each to start shifting emotional space. I've come to develop a great friendship with that doctor and johnson who created the model. Those are just some of the things that we've gone the to okay. Wow wow and those are just some quite amazing. Why no one of the things you really believe in his bun oral beats and healing music. Tell us how you you feel. That can really change our lives. What frequency has a really big impact on as humans right because we're energy and energy moves. According to frequency seen the experiment where people put oil on speaker and they play different frequencies the actually ended up taking different shape because sound has really impactful effect on the way things move. How atoms move so when we talk going to beat what we're actually doing is we're going into the brain and changing the frequency of the brain through our capacity to thin concern where capacity than to act to somewhere way capacity to build no pathway to habits and behaviors can be impacted by this frequencies in the brain. So bono reads a really great for that and then in terms of sound healing when we look at the backbone of our energy body which the sack chakra system or the energy centers they all sit particular frequency women out of whack throws out of whack but sound can be used to put them back into harmony. That's why we have such response to music and music and change. Our moved to make us feel differently. Things like sound bars where they use different instruments in order to creative resonant frequencies and they're also workers like my friend greg papane. He's actually got music actually goes through. You'll sacri- you energy centers and uses frequency. Actually choon them in almost like getting a tune up just like you would have a vehicle. Wow that's incredible isn't it. Did you say that's gregg your friend growing up on ya right. Great papa dot com. Yes shared that in your book. Well i know you play the piano very very frequently. And that's sort of almost therapy for you. What do you play. Because that's like me. I love to play the piano as well. What do you play you. sit down to play. I actually played by air. I create more than anything. I've got a few things. I can't play. I do have my level. Five music theory so i can read music instruments. I play the guitar for looking at qatar in front of me for me about just allowing myself to move wherever energy and emotion during my body through sound and i find that very therapeutic right. Well i do too. I absolutely do another person. That you talk about in the book as dr joe silva and the silva method yes and tell us what the silva method in your experience with. The a method actually came into my life. I'm going to say where we now. Twenty twenty one. I'm must say eighteen years ago. When i came upon this over mattered. This is interesting. I and then. When i started to play with the tools i was like. Oh my goodness. This stuff is bonkers. So i've done a rigged books. And i've done some of the programs that his daughter produced and now the the work of the method is really the foundation of the work. I do with the construct. What i do with clients now while we create a mental space for us to to heal to create outcomes to engage. Be parts of our mind to answer questions to do. Mastermind work you know. Sometimes we introduce some of the specific tools. The jose silver in. He's in these family produced by the time it says creating an individual play space for the people that we work with so that they can create. It's really bonkers. How much of an impact. You can have on your reality playing through personal construct. Yeah i'm so happy to be already working with a number of listeners. As a mindfulness life coach and hypnotists you might have heard of someone who's lost weight or quit smoking with the help of hypnosis as a licensed hypnotist. I work with anyone struggling with an issue. Maybe it's sleep. Maybe it smoking or weight loss. While i've lost thirty five pounds myself and kept it off using hypnosis and now i'm offering a beta package and i'm really excited about this beta launch. Because it means big savings for you and it means. I get the opportunity to work with people like you and i have openings for only three people so you need to act now if you wanna lose weight. I've created a video to help you called how to lose weight for good watch the short video and then book a quick call with me when you can jump right in now and you'll get fifty percent off the price of the package so go to mindfulness mode dot com slash weight loss. And if you just want to book a time and talk directly to me go to mindfulness mode. Dot com slash. Let's talk so. I look forward to connecting with you now back to the show one of the things that That you you said. Vote the middle of the book. You started talking about meditation. And how. Meditation is one of your most prevalent daily activities. And you know. let's talk about meditation. How has that influenced you and change your life remember. The funny thing was meditation. I came into my life about twenty years ago. I was studying with a particular teacher. I'd already been doing a lot of visuals. Asian work can someone say for and he was like okay. So you're going to put an apple down and you're gonna look at the absolute divine law for an hour meeting. It doesn't sound like fun does it. So i actually ended up. Not going that deep into meditation time and then around twenty fifteen two thousand sixteen. I came into work with dr joe dispenser. And he's guided meditations. And i didn't get it. And then i went to one of his events in berlin. I clicked for me. I really got it. And things really clicked into place. And i was able to go back to meditation and now i do meditation. I do transcend meditation other forms of meditation understanding that. It's almost like plugging in right. And getting the power boosted and also developing a clean space. Look at what's going on inside to be in a space of mindfulness much baseball and also the meditative state is a very powerful place to be to do other things. So mothers will is. Eighteen is done in a meditative state. When i'm looking at addressing my mood and temperament can to meditative state and reset and develop a deeper level of dominion over my immediate reality. So for me. Meditations are very multi-functional toll. I don't believe that everyone has to meditate in order to get into meditative state for some people playing the instrument is what's going to get them into that meditative state for some going to be going for run for some. It's going to be watching the sunrise or listening to the sound of the water to me. What's most important is actually being in the meditative state and give him his opportunity to choon in and connect with that powerful self. Well i love the sound of your voice. I love your accent. I love the sound of your voice. I was just gonna say your podcast is so much fun because i get to hear the sound of your voice on do it with dan and you laugh a lot and you have a lot of fun but you share so much insight. It's really great mindful tribe. Go to it. Listen to this they. Dan's podcast do it with dan. But also your website is called dream with dan dot com and mindful tribe. You may not be able to believe it but when you go to. His website dream with dan dot com. There is so much there and there is so much there that you can just help yourself to. It's not all about. Oh pay this much money for this and pay this much money for that and now you can pay some more money for this and that the other thing like. That's what really impressed me that you know. There's so much there for anybody at any level is seems to me like you have just been creating in creating and creating an offering it to your people for quite a while. Isn't that true on this thing and this is not to knock compete with are more sort of hard on the selling. Start but what. I found to be the case in the way that when i'm working with people in crane financial abundance i found to be effective in recognizing that old financial abundance comes through people. But it doesn't come from people that comes from sauce. And when i open up to just serving more people what actually ends up doing is creating more inroads for me to actually blessed financial abundance. The more i give the more. I get because god doesn't short always gives extra and the more that i make myself available for that inbound blessing the more it comes so maybe the stuff i give away doesn't necessarily even come through. This might come through one of the bits business interests. Maybe might even come as money might come as things i need but everything was taken care of and and some and i get to enjoy supporting other people being able to go out and do the same to give to others to shed others and to be in a place where they're so food they overflowing that adds to the world and beautiful ways. Well dan i sure appreciate what you do and i read many many books and interview many authors. I've got over six hundred episodes on my show and interview lots of authors. But when i start reading your book. I'm like oh this is different. This book is really different. There's a cutting right to the chase and he's sharing sharing sharing how to get ahead in this world how to achieve if you're stuck how to how to make real impacts in real inroad so i wanna thank you for all the work that you're doing dan. It's incredible pretty much. And i also wanna talk to you about this. I want to ask you as a black man. What do you think about black lives matter and that that campaign and that movement so this is a hot topic i actually i submitted an op ed. That it wasn't picked up by submitted. An op ed. On my my views on this. Because i think it becomes more challenging because depending on where you are in the world your experience a person of color is going to be different Dan wants to look at where you are in the. You look at social costs because a lot of isn't just racial little social class. Yes but there are parts of the world. This movement particularly started in the united states. Where there's been a cultural suppression of particular races into lower social classes socioeconomic classes and so what ends up happening is that struggles that are faced by certain. Socio economic classes tend to be more regularly associated with racial groups putting this into context. The there was moves to suppress people social mobility in terms of where you live red lining in the school system deliberately. Suppressing people nimitz opportunities. All of these things were happening and they've been happening you know. We had the end of segregation supposedly in the sixties in the social rights social him the civil rights movement. But when we look that. Let's just think about this. I was raised by my parents. So the ideologies of my parents and my peers who also had parents who share ideologies in my social setting is going to be shed. It's gonna take a big impact of out the big circumstances to with me and even if ships me that doesn't mean it's necessarily going to ship the other people in my social costs. Let's look who the leaders are right. Now we've just had a donald trump was just the president in the us. Now you've got to bind it. I mean joe biden poet. His pants down making con of dodgy comments about about barack obama when the plight of people that were speaking of the black lives matter movement was being expressed. You know you can find donald trump speaking about a lot of things and he didn't really speak about it but that's because he didn't have at least one that we didn't have any oxide when he relationship emotionally to the experience of it you know. I'm from a middle class family in the uk number one all the aspects of the black lives matter movement felt by people of color in the uk. Yes but again. I dunk for immediately under the social clause. That's most deeply affected by have a face racism. Prejudice half things in my life been hauled up because i'm a black person. Said he's been spoke directly. In some instances but i haven't been in fear of my life and people post to protect me. Which is the reality for people in the us. I mean going into the quote unquote wrong area in the uk may mean some skinheads wanna beat me up a little bit. We'll spill me. But they're not going to lynch me which the reality for black people in the usa. In right there are some parts of the country. You can't go to because you literally won't get out alive harbor as can happen to you. And that's a reality. You know the police much stop and search me more aggressively in the in the uk. I personally felt the sting of looking at situations. That have been in saying if i hadn't been black. Maybe it would have been different. Maybe it wouldn't have been. But i wouldn't have that question if i wasn't a person of color in the us. I don't really even drive. When i'm in america. I had a green card application. I pulled because just son now. I don't feel safe necessarily pick and choose where you're going to be. These are real real things. Unfortunately however you've got things like the black lives matter political movement which is not the same as a civil rights movement which hijacked the name. So you have people besmirching the hashtag. Beer them off. The black lives matter movement because political party has hijacked the name and basically a pseudo communist party so there are people that are bad mouthing the the word black lives matter on account of political movement that actually the civil rights movement. Then you have things being done in. The name of black lives matter searches peaceful protest turned into riots. Now there is some narratives saved a lot. This was incited bricks in front of places. and antifa. who you know you've got conspiracy theories and stuff like that but ultimately there's just a big mess that means that we don't have a clean narrative which is some people are not having the full quality of life that they deserve and humans because of the color of their skin this is happening at an institutional level. This is not being pulled up. And unfortunately i feel it's going to be a generational before that gets kind of work because the people who run the country now were raised by people who said that black people aren't even humans anyway and actually argued against them receiving four civil rights. So they're the people that are in power. Now we've seen improvements. But it may take a generational to all of culturally degration of understanding each of having difficult conversations before we start to see real change because it has to come from the talk before he's seen levels. I think i agree. And you know. I i just wanna say you have an incredible way of communicating very clearly and. I know that were diagnosed with autism as an adult and very often people who have autism have trouble communicating a lot of times. that's true. Tell us how this diagnosis impacted you in your life dan when i'm very fortunate in that On the autistic spectrum. I've asked when people ask me. What the difference between autism and aspect is one of the key. Things say that we've aspirin 'cause we can communicate so our brains are wired the same way to a great extent with aspects that you can communicate with the outside world. Would that's actually meant in terms of my work. Particularly is that the very structured formalize way. My brain works means that ideas happened to be in a very succinct structured. Way otherwise i have a complete meltdown. Actually do with it so you know anything that system is. I can learn if anything doesn't have any system all method to it. I have a meltdown. You can literally see me having a panic attack. Things like my wife's enemy a message. While i'm in the middle of grocery shopping in changing the grocery shopping list that potential panic attack says maybe that was just like changing the script. That's been to me. My diagnosis was a gift. I'd spend my entire life with crippling social. It crippling general anxiety terribly insomnia. I had no capacity to relationships of any of any of any function really. But when i had my diagnosis i understood what was and i was able to tune into what my gifts and akon tuning into. My gift actually meant was that i didn't saw okay. These restaurants these challenges. I was able to find appropriate support for my challenges and to put work into strengthening gifts. So because i can think systemized. I went and studied about social dynamics. Okay so i'm having social anxiety. Because i don't there's no system during the off going learn about people in the way that they socialize in the way that those dynamics function and get a basis for being able to operate. And that's actually helped me now. People think mama social with it. No i just understand some of the systems around how humans communicate with each other. So that's actually create space for me to be able to move through that with grayson things. Yeah and it appears from the outside that you move through with incredible grace and ease. Isn't it you. you just seem to have this life that just everything is amazing. I mean obviously. I've read your book and learned about so many things you've done and everything but who would you tell us about someone. You've coached obviously a lot of this. Might be confidential. But could you tell a story about someone and how their life has been impacted by the coaching and assistance. You've been able to provide any particular things like relationship. Hell financial abundances were really focused for the last couple of years. I don't know if that's just going to say abundance. Yes but he was just not able to create abundance in their life and then you help them and everything changed. I'm going to a champion and a lady because some had this before our yard give lady stories or early. Give them in stories about as i'll get one of. I think one lady. I'd like to talk about is. She was married twenty twenty one years with mary. Husband was completely intractable. The finances she got into the marriage quite young lived fabulously abundantly with with the ex husband came out that now wanted to be independent by sell. It didn't take five minutes. It took a little bit of time but now she's got a six week at what she has a successful business. She's an independent investor as she goes and finds her own opportunities at duo for herself. She's still get some animosity from her ex-husband but actually now creates an unwavering abundance so that even if that cutoff which is something that he noted over her for an on time if she didn't behave in what he wanted she was going to pull that plug. She's go freedom to now financially support herself children. Not only that. She has an independence's now. Leaking other areas of life is creating space for her to go and address. Trauma to address are the challenges and actually live more bonded life. So that's an example of one person on yeah abundance can really give you freedom. So that's a great story. I'd like to talk about a couple that i could call them. I think i'm going to use one guy the reason i'm going to these guys because he's the only person i've ever bullied to be in my program now. We'll because i was just gonna ask you a question about bullying because i don't know it just i had in me. That is guys really going to be served by this program and generally speaking. I don't have sales conversations with people i have opportunity conversations to share. What the opportunity is and honestly to understand if i want them to be apart my community or not. I've had people that offer upset. You know what we're fit for for our community the cool thing is i. Don't need this part of my life. Financially isn't michael. Financial muscle costs of financial income. So i can afford to say. I want to work with your don't have especially in the coaching world discovery. We're gonna see we're now. They're going to sell you. They're gonna use to make that. But i genuinely get to choose who i want to work with and i just knew that i knew that this was going to add to our community so we finally said yes for about year. He kind of been boat was doing okay. Who's chipping away at and dance himself together and then after a while he like he's like i really want to take seriously. He decided to upgrade it to the high level of my program. Within three months he was making ten to twenty five thousand dollars a week. Now the funny thing about that. This is one of the funny things. Especially as we're both musicians is that initially. What he was trying to do was used his music to be the source of his abundance traumatic experience around two thousand and eight and losing everything when the financial crash he'd been doing real estate he actually has thirty years of experience but he was so not backed by what happened in two thousand eighteen. Actually been running away from real estate so we ended up doing some work around that and creating some clarity and getting him into a flow with it and now he's making tens of thousands of dollars from from from his industry that he was and not only that was actually happened as over octagon kring. We're actually going into business together on something else right now. That's gonna make good money and really help people but all of this came. Interestingly from someone. I just knew was going to be served by our community and he's actually been a great assistance. Some of the other guys in the community have now got financial freedom from being in business with this particular chap because generally speaking like i said i have done are kind of. I don't even do a quarterback. I don't for call. Hey you know. Have you thought about what we spoke about. We have the compensation i said. This is what it is. I don't think we're fit or this is what it is. I think would be fit. This is what it looks like. If you're open you've got my contact details. There's no like limited. Whoever generally speaking. Because i'm pro haven't admitted spaces genuinely but the generally be another time in the future. You can go on a waiting list or something like that but with him. I didn't like dude. Come in today. This broke up you come into pro at it was it was at he. Thanks me for it now. If i did actually kick him on the getting to come and join join up. Well that's great and that's sometimes. The job of a coach is that you just have to do that. all key. Thankfully way to go with that dream with dan dot com mindful tribe website as we move forward. I want to ask you five. Quick answer questions so just thirty. Second answers perfect. The first one is this who is one person who has had a huge impact on your life. As far as mindfulness is concerned. It's the work of totaling nine hundred percent because it brought me back to a respect and honoring of the now and everything that leads into chrome it. That's obvious from the work you do number two. How has mindfulness affected your emotions. I don't believe that we can have a deliver and in anything and we present. A mindfulness is a gateway to that. Presence allows us to have dominion over ourself and all levels including our emotions. Tell us how breathing is part of your mindfulness. The breath allows us to send talk allows us to ground allows change the from the part of the brain that will parade scene and to get to a really clean space to be able to move forward in origin. That we consciously choose your book. Well you have a number of them but stepping beyond intention is when i really recommend because i just finished reading it you have other books. That dreamers manifesto you have the book power proximity you have from time to time. But it's called yes and you have the money game money game anyway. I know that you recommend a number of awesome books. When i when i read your book. What would you recommend right now as a book that could help someone with mindfulness. I would say mindfulness directed some way is very powerful and a book. That really supported me with dr right. Mindfulness is this surrender experiment by michael singer. Have you read. Have you read the book. I have and i just loved that book. A just like wow. That's a that. I often mentioned to. If i'm on a podcast. Yeah it's such a great book. Beautiful beautiful and i rent already the book. The unintended moved by it. So i can definitely see that. His journey as an author definitely has has progressed between the two books. But the surrender experiment teaches. I believe to develop a trusting present relationship with yourself with god univer source. And with your life that facilitated just being a beautiful space afloat infamy i think directive. Mindfulness is where it's at and that's a very very powerful to support people in reaching that state. Yeah for sure. Can you share an app. Which helps you. Or some of your clients with mindfulness There's a couple of really good kelly. How has a great free app. This free meditations on them. What's cool about that. is you know. There's like five minute one and ten minute one. A fifteen minute guided meditation powerful. And if you want a bit. More variety differently inside timer is free meditation app. That's really really powerful in terms of you having a variety of meditations and you can even meditate at the same time as other people in different communities. I think those are two really cool apps. Well you know. I enjoyed your book. And as i as i read your book i kept writing down questions and questions at thoughts and i thought oh when i talked to dan and this and we'll talk about that and look at the time now. We're almost like we're running out of time but sometimes it's easier if i don't read the book and then i did not be filled with all these incredible questions. But it's so awesome to read a book and then be able to interview the author. I loved how the purpose of intention you said is to achieve self mastery over your state of being so concise and then you have steps in the first step is except zapped. Your life in the second step is clearing about getting present. And let's talk about the third step because you said that's where the magic happens this gratitude so we go back to us at only about connecting expectation and when we speak about the choice machine ultimately we get what we expect that we have a cleopatra. Whether that's a positive expectation which we. Jerry causes faith or a negative expectation. Toss a fear. We're creating with both of those things when we fear something where she coin experience in where connecting to that outcome that possibility and bringing in. We're using the law of attraction but the park must be clear. The sad thing is is that generally is easier to create what we fear because we face something because we have enough evidence to accept it as being real and faith generally without transcending resistance to something showing up for us. We're having faith in it because we don't have as much physical evidence of is gonna show up gratitude. I have found to be a very powerful tool in cutting through that noise and connecting positively with an outcome that we want not only does it affect emotionally the brain quite literally shifts and changes when we're grateful for something that we haven't experienced it. It's a way of developing very powerful magnetic connection expectation to outcome that we want to see in our lives. And when we do that from the clip space of the present moment doesn't happen stories about the future that may have been with a posit has happened. But i'm here. And now when a very powerful position to anchor in that gratitude and then we moved into step four where we simply remain mindful thinking and feeling with a win as to whether western on track with that positive expectation or not seeing whether we need to get some support. Do we need to take time out. Do we need to reset that connection so that we can call into mice mindful tribe. Check out the podcast. Do with dan check out his website degree with anything else we should. Oh i know what. I should say social media. You're all over social media at dreamer. Ceo yeah was there anything. I missed dan. Make on the website as the social the social social media links earl on the website. You know. i'm also spending time on clubhouse. If any of the mindful room there could be starting conversations. It would love to have a populist compensations. Yeah we're twitter. Instagram facebook order things linton everywhere cool. Well thank you so much for sharing the time with us today. On on mindfulness mode. It's been great talking. Thank you really really enjoyed it. And i'm glad that we got to create experience have -solutely Have a great rest. You dave by ninety by a mindful tried. Thanks for listening for subscribing for reviewing the show at apple podcasts and to erica flint's cascade hypnosis center for being our valued sponsor erica. We really appreciate you. Erica is a terrific teacher of hypnosis. And i know that because i am a graduate of her program. Now if you're a healer or a coach or counselor or someone who just loves helping people consider the powerful results that can be achieved with hypnosis. You can become a hypnotist. Just like i did. Contact the team over at cascade. Hypnosis center dot com and if you'd like to work with me and break through some of those mind blocks maybe lose weight. Maybe quit smoking. Maybe it's something else. I would be so thrilled to work with you. And as you've already heard on the show. I'm doing an exciting new beta launch. I've got room for three people so reach out to me. Just go to mindfulness mode. Dot com slash. Let's talk for a free short conversation. About what i can do to help you. I look forward to hearing from you. That's mindfulness mode. Dot com slash. Let's talk so now. Take what we learned today to reach new heights of calm focus and happiness stay in the mode.
1902: Cynthia Ruiz: Become the CEO of Your Life
"Welcome to the conscious. Milliner show episode number nineteen zero two. Hi my name. Is cynthia harris and onto days conscious millionaire show. I am going to be sharing how you and become the ceo of your life. Welcome to conscious milliner. The number one. Show very conscious entrepreneurs and ceos on a mission to build a highly profitable business that makes a positive impact on egypt's discover how to make bigger money. Create a bigger impact and live vigor. Live you're listening to the conscious meaning network per by over twelve million listeners. In one hundred ninety countries now join your host jay chrome the third the conscious meaner mentor master. Nlp coach speaker and author of the number one international bestseller conscious millionaire. Grow your business making a difference. Are you an entrepreneur coach. Who's tired of feeling stuck or looking at your bank account and he just looks way to empty. The truth is you were born to make millions. And i wanna help you fill your bank account by gifting you my born to make millions empowerment audio download the born to make millions audio right. Now go to conscious millionaire dot com forward slash make millions. That's right claim your financial freedom. Now by going to conscious millionaire dot com forward slash. Make millions i this. Jv and i am totally excited. You've join me as you know. This isn't just a podcast and a syndicated radio show. it's an entrepreneurial training for you. The entrepreneur coach business owner who wants to put more money in the bank. But you wanna do it by making a bigger impact a difference with your life do something you feel as meaningful and it also makes you happy and fulfilled. Well i have a good friend of mine here for her fourth visit to millionaire. She's an author professor executive coach and speaker and jack canfield whose frequented the show as well said she is one of the most well informed deeply wise kindhearted and articulate people. I have ever met. I will second that jack. Today's guests shares the wisdom. She's gained from being a member of the cherokee nation coupled with her years in major leadership roles in government. My guest today from los angeles california. Cynthia ruez cynthia. Thank you so much for joining us again. We know jv. I can't believe you keep s me back four times. I am so blessed and grateful to call you. My friend and i love all the work that you're doing because yes it's about money and making lots of it but it's also about join it in a conscious way so that's what i love coming on your show because i believe in you while i appreciate that i wanna tell you folks you wanna get cynthia's book have linked to it on the show notes at conscious millionaire's show dot com or you can just go directly to amazon cherokee wisdom because one of the things. I definitely value on my own conscious. Millionaire journey is the wisdom that other people bring to the earth that i get to learn from. And it's like you get a multiplier when you tap into somebody else's wisdom because it may have taken you twenty thirty forty years to acquire that wisdom and all of a sudden you can start you know literally dividing it into your life and utilizing it the way that you read it our topic today folks is incredibly interesting. Become the ceo of your life. And what i most want to get out is how you do that by applying business principles so a lot of people when they have a title like that it stays over like in the life coaching. Nothing wrong with that. But you've really integrated. That's why i think it's so great for entrepreneurs so tell me what does it mean to you for someone to actually become. Ceo of their life. Well let's break it down. What is the ceo. The ceo is a person in charge right so become. The ceo of your life is really about taking charge of your life and if you're unhappy with your life in any way guess what you can make different choices. We live in a world of free. Will we all have free will. And we all have the ability to make choices so if there's an area that you're not happy with in your life your life your career is not where it should be your relationships not where it should be. Guess what you have the power to make different choices to make changes. I mean it's that simple. I mean people complicated everything but to become the ceo of your life. It's about empowering yourself to make choices to really lead the life that you wanna live pseudo. I'm curious we didn't talk about this before the show. But i think there's a relationship here i remember a time period and it wasn't that long ago is about ten years ago when i woke up and began to realize that i had forget all the accomplishments all the external stuff that i was still not the hero of my own life because i had made other people to hero like my father i had really taken care of him while he was in on his on his journey to leading and but i had failed to make myself the hero and started shifting. And i think there's a relationship between being allowing yourself to be the hero of your life. And and i'm saying that because i'm one of those people like most of the people that i had tracked his clients an so. Many of the people who come to conscious is i'm naturally somebody who sorts for other people. I and sorts for myself second. And i had to really learn about boundaries and taking care of me and there seems to be a relationship between yes i finally get to be the hero and an. I'm now going to be the ceo not somebody else. What's the relationship between those two ideas. Well i i believe that becoming the coo of your life and taking charge really starts with south improvement and all south improvement starts with south reflection. The bottom line is that we go through life and we have different experiences. Some good some bad and that creates emotional baggage so self reflection is about taking a look at yourself your life and jbs in your case. What was it that caused you to put everybody else i. It's good to be a giving person right but you all have to receive an a lot of times it from our childhood. Maybe you didn't feel worthy so you had to make everybody else more important than yourself so everybody has emotional baggage and experiences so by doing south reflection and really identifying areas where you can improve on letting go of your emotional baggage then once you're happier and healthier you're more successful. You have better relationships in your life so again you know. South improvement starts with south reflection. We have to hold up the mirror and look at ourselves and what areas we need to improve in our live to become the ceo of our life. We'll folks right coming up next and you really want to stay tuned for this. We're gonna be talking about business. Principles applied to your daily life. But i want to comment back on what you've brought up here. Cynthia and and the reason to comment on this is that so many people you know when you get forty and older indisposition so i had. My father was a ten year dying process right and i was an only child and so i said well. I've got to take care of my dad. I've got to be there. I actually moved. He wasn't paying his bills. That's a good thing i mean. I really think that we should honor our parents in. Honor your case ancestors but the thing that you might find yourself and i've counseled a lot of people. Just just helping them out with. This is that we can what i did. And it's what we can do is human beings is lose ourselves in that process because we become so involved in taking care of the other person as a caretaker that we forget that we have a life and i realized when when it was all done my father had died and i was going through the estate in the house and handling that i finally came to a realization. And that's what. I was referring to earlier cynthia that i had let my father become the hero of my life because i was so focused on his issues and the things that he was able to take care of for himself. And if you're in that position. I want you to take what cindy is going to describe about a ceo and remember that you can care for others but don't give up yourself and don't give up your role as ceo of your life in that process. Absolutely i couldn't agree more. And actually i went through something. Similar my mom's eighty eight and has dementia and to be quite honest. We never really had a good relationship but this year no. She's requires a twenty four hour care. This year. i actually went through a process myself of forgiving. Her of forgiveness so now at whatever point she does make her transition. I m okay. With that. Because i don't have that emotional. Baggage debt was created growing up. So we all can can really live a better life and become the see though if we let go of all of our baggage in our stuff and we all have it. I don't care who you are my act like you don't you do we all have it. So let's talk about the specifics. Now i know that you're you're listening. You're interested in this. How how do you apply business. Principles to becoming the ceo of your life cynthia. Well let's take a basic business principle when you start a business you write a mission statement for the business right because is around that mission statement would about writing a mission statement for your own individual life my missions personal mission statement is i want to be a beneficial presence on this planet but most people don't even think they just go through life and they don't think what is my purpose. What is my mission in life. So the first one is writing that mission statement. The other one is doing three sixty evaluation. I'm an executive coach. I use this a lot with my clients doing a three sixty evaluation. What i ask people to do is described themselves in five words or phrases then once they do that. I asked him to go around people around them. This is a three sixty part. Ask your family your friends. your co workers your subordinates. To describe you and five words and also because Most people listening are entrepreneur. So ask your clients and maybe ask people who are suppliers. They provide some services or products to you. What it's like to interact with you. I think that's a fascinating place to to get feedback on who we really are. It's interesting because people come back in their shocked. Wow i thought. I perceive myself as one way. Cut everybody else around me perceives as differently. So don't you want those to to be in alignment and the bottom line is people don't usually ask for feedback from others. It'll ask for feedback from their family. Their clients they just do what they think is right so having that sixty evaluation the next thing is when you start a business you write a business plan right. Well i have people right the equivalent in their personal life. And i call it the roadmap. So really mapping out your entire life in all areas of your life from family to career to your hobbies really looking at your life. Holistically and setting goals setting targets and setting timelines so development develop the equivalent of a business plan for your life. And so that's what i mean about business principles and applying them to your daily life because for whatever reason people don't mix the two they try to keep it separate. I think that's really important especially for entrepreneurs because one of the biggest things. And i am saying this as guilty partner that i've done this us that we can get so lost in our business side of our entrepreneurial journey that we forget that we have a personal side like today recording but from five to seven. I'm going to out nature into park. I'm picking up. See you know what. I'm reading folks. I'm reading deepak. Chopra's most recent book and and i'm going to spend a couple of hours reading and writing in the bulk because folks if you have my book conscious millionaire grow your business by making a difference. I even put it in the first part of the book. You have my permission to write all over it highlighted color. It whatever you want to do that. With every book i read. I wonder if you know before we go to break. I want to go back to the one concept of medicine statement and different people define that differently. Right what do you. What do you mean by mission statement and could you give some you know little bit instructions so anybody listening here could start with writing their mission statement. Well absolutely what is the mission statement of a company. It's the why. Why does that company exist. And so once you write your mission statement in business than everything that you do should be in alignment with that mission statement For example i think amazon when they developed their company in their mission statement was to be a A global Market on the internet right to sell things because when you think about amazon. They don't really sell anything. They're just the middle person so that was their mission so everything that they don't create most of their products that they don't they don't produce it. They're just the middleman right. I mean when amazon started what they still when they started with books only actually and so their mission. Your mission can evolve but it's usually the same thing so for me my mission being a beneficial presence on this planet. That's the lens. I look through so everything that i do. I say okay is am i by this action. Am i being beneficial presence. And it's something so basic because all businesses should have a mission statement some have vision of difference between mission statement and vision statement. Is the mission. Statement is the why the vision statement is more. Aspirational save for example. The alzheimer's association their vision is to have no body on this earth having alzheimer's so vision statement is aspirational and mission. Statement is the why. Why does that company exist or as an individual. Why do you exist at what i love about this and you know i do a lot of work with with many of my clients on purpose and bringing that into their vision. Bring it into their business. Is it it really. Does you touched on that. cynthia. Is i very consciously. Choose everyone on a business or personal level. That's in my close inner circle. I ca- if you're in my close. Inner circle i consciously chose you and and i find. Usually those people consciously chose me as well but they have to be people who have a conscious vision of the world that are doing something that's powerful that are successful. They want and they wanna be more successful. That really uplift with and we believe that the world can be better off those kind of people i hang out with and somebody can be really interesting. But if that's not what they're doing it then i go. It doesn't further my purpose on this planet and therefore those are the people i need to hang out with so we can figure out together how to play bigger and make a bigger impact in this world. This is where choices come in we. All have choices are talked about that. And if there are people in your life. They're not in alignment with your mission statement. You have the choice to either limit the interaction with them or exclude them from your life together. I have to say that throughout my life there have been some people that i have to let go because they're toxic because filled with drama. They're negative and those are not the people that i want in my life so i made a conscious choice as difficult as was to let them go and i'm happier because guess what it's my life. I'm the ceo. And i can make the choices now. I make choices that don't harm other people because that's not me but i make choices that are good for me and many relationships what i also look for in addition to being like minded is reciprocity. You can't do all the giving but people like you. And i have to learn how to receive timely cycle right folks. We're going to be right back with more in this incredible conversation with cynthia ruez. We're going to have the twenty four hour. Challenge me to tell you about her master class. And they're going to have the conscious millionaire world expert questions. There's a lot ahead stay tuned. we'll be right back. 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Welcome back i'm gv kremlin third host of the conscious millionaire show. I'm here with a good friend. Incredible person on this planet. Cynthia ruez she is the author of cherokee wisdom. We're going to have that on the show notes at conscious millionaire. Show dot com. Now it's time for that twenty four hour challenge. I know that's a favourite part for a number of people who listen to the show. What's the twenty four hour challenge you for. Everyone listening today cynthia. Well when you look. We're talking about becoming the ceo of your life. The first thing you have to do is is define what success looks like right. So success is different for everybody and for me as a person as individuals. What does success look like most people gauge that my happiness so i have a little quiz. It's called the she test. It's not gender. Specific is stands for south happiness evaluation. And i want your listeners of challenging them to look at their life over the next twenty four hours and asked himself one simple question. What percentage of the time am i happy. And what percentage of the time am i not so evaluate your happiness and so it's like a happiness score exactly. I love that folks. I think we should all be happy. And and i'm actually bringing this in with my private clients at a deeper level of alignment that if you're doing something you're passionate about you feel like yes. This is a purpose that gives meaning to my life and to other people. And i'm happy doing it. I'm telling you when you align your business and your clients and your offers with that proposition. That if i'm not passionate if i don't feel like i'm really on purpose if i'm not happy doing this if you need permission from anybody i'm giving it to you right now. You don't ever have to do that again. And you might be going way chevy. I just kind of quickly thought through it. And i don't think i like any of my business great. Today's your day you get to ask yourself. How am i going to pivot. So that i bring my business and the people i wake up in the morning and work with in alignment with me being happy and passionate and purpose. Because that's going to shift you tremendously. Just think for a moment if you do that every day. How much more driven are you going to be to get more clients. You get to work with or to find more referral partners or get on more stages or being a guest on podcasts. Or having your own podcast. Whatever it is if you're happy and you're passionate and you're purposeful you know. I think that's the drive that will make us most successful as entrepreneurs. I wanna take a moment and tell you how happy i am that you join me and cynthia today that you showed for yourself to take another step forward so you can. Yes put more money in the bank by doing something that you're passionate about that feels meaningful to you and that makes you happy. You deserve to have it all. I believe that you can. That really is what conscious millionaire is about how you can have it. Aw by giving your all and making your difference in the world. And i want to give a special shout out to all of our friends and fans in denver colorado and sedona arizona and now it's time for the conscious millionaire world class expert questions. I want to start with mindset. What's the mindset. You've developed cynthia. That actually helps you discover the best business opportunities. It's the mindset of positivity when i stay positive and grateful. Things happened company. Come my way so positively in greg. Gratitude are the two most important folks. I love that were i right in my gratitude journal. you know when i had a very very good friend who was my spiritual mother. Carol passover i immediately that morning when out into nature by creek and i sat in my my white mole skin. That's my spiritual journal. And i wrote thank you thank you carol. Thank you carol. Thank you carol. And i just let it all out. And what happened is rather than feeling remorse. I felt celebration that carol had passed and it was her time to pass. And i didn't feel any loss at all by acknowledging how grateful i was that we got to take a journey together and really quickly j. b. let me tell you why mindset is so important because we know consciously that were all energy right and so energy happiness and gratitude compassion love. We are operating at a higher by 'rational level sadness and hate and bitterness. It's operating at a lower by vibration level so energy is so important that's why mindset is so important absolutely agree with you. I'm curious because there's the conscious part and there's the millionaire part they go together. What's a strategy that will empower entrepreneurs who are listening today to make more money. They key to making more. Money is the ability to pivot. If we've seen anything through this whole pandemic it's the businesses that are able to pivot that. Have been able to thrive if you stagnate then you get pulled down and unfortunately you don't thrive so you know be take a look at your business plan. Now is a good time to say okay. Is my business model working. If it's not working. How can i adjust adjusting and pivoting to me is the same thing so you always have to be able to with the times and go with the flow. Even though there is a plan you know you're not known each other a long time. This is a new question for the season. What is your purpose in life. Cynthia and how did that. Influence the direction you take your business and offering such things that i want to talk about next. Is your master class. So as i mentioned my mission statement which is my purpose is to be a beneficial presence on this planet. Now how did. I incorporate that into my business model while mine's a little bit unique. Because i as an executive coach what i do for five paid executive coaching clients. I do one pro bono and so the six with a six months free. But what i do is at. I am best in the youth. I usually take on executive coaching client. Free a some somebody. That jeon usually. It's a young woman of color. And i work with them and do give them the same service as i would do for my very expensive clients because it's about giving back. I was talking about how everything runs in cycles so it creates that now from a purely business point of view people might say. Well you're losing out on so much money. What you know what it makes me happy and i'm paying it forward part of my cherokee wisdom is looking to the future for future generations so i incorporated that philosophy into my business model. And the more. I do that guess. What more paid executive coaching clients. I get i. I love that you and i wanna take a moment to talk about the master you have and how people can learn more about that. Well during this pandemic i really said how can i use my skills. I've been teaching how people how to become a ceo. There live for several years but during this pandemic said how can i use my skills to help people. I don't really wanna go out there in public. Because of the risk. Bob so i taught a master class. I brought everything together. And i'm giving people the tools to become the ceo of your life. I'm teaching them how to develop the roadmap. I'm teaching him how to do the business model. And i'm teaching them to evaluate how they define success so for me. It's it's come full circle m so excited launched. It is done very well. People love it. People call it life changing inspirational so really. That's for me. It's really teach him giving people the skills. Because i honestly believe that everybody wants to be successful and the reality is most people. Just don't know how. So i give people. The skills have a menu. They can pick and choose what they need in their life and then they can implement that. Now it's up to them whether or not they they follow through but i feel passionate about giving people the skills to become the c o of their life and if somebody's interested in that how could they best contact you or go take a look at it absolutely. They can visit my website. My website is my name. Cynthia c. y. n. t. Hi a middle initial m. ruiz argue is e cynthia. Emmer we stop com. They can find out more about me on my website about my classes about everything i offer an addition to the cherokee wisdom. I've written several other books. So i am just very blessed and grateful to be able to share the knowledge that i have. I mean because you know. let's face it. The older you get the more knowledge wisdom you have. So i'm just less to be in a position to be able to share that with the world and we'll have that on the show notes at conscious millionaire show dot com. You know you've got your great book cherokee wisdom other books. What's a book that you would recommend for entrepreneurs so one book that i love that i read recently is called the forest sacred gifts by her anita sanchez. And i like it. Because of the simplicity of it she talks about forgiveness. She talks about unity because at the end of the day were all connected. She talks about healing and she talks about hope. You know we have to have hope if you don't have hope what are you have so again. It's the four sacred gifts and by dr anita sanchez. And i love it. And we'll have a link to that as well at the show notes on conscious millionaire show dot com to scroll down to today show tidal become the ceo of your life. Well i'm curious you're always expanding you're always making a bigger difference in the world. What's your next summit at this point in your life and what might be a challenge or you're going to have to overcome to get to yet another mountain top. Well i've said a goal for myself is i want to a been a nonprofits. Currently president of the city's pension board the knicks challenges. I want to obtain a corporate board seat on a paid board of directors. And i think that what's happening now. Is that people are realizing we need more diversity on the corporate boards so my goal within the next year and jv you can home into this within the next year. I want to be on. I want to get a paid corporate board seat at in a corporation and her so any type of corporation you'd most like to Have that seat on. So i'm open. I've already put the thing. i put in motion. Because you know obviously you have to take action right so i have already joined. organizations have taken workshops. I have a lot of experience. I took a leadership class at harvard. So in the reason. I want that is not necessarily for the money. Because you know. The money's good who doesn't like abundance but you'll why really want it because as women and women of color join these corporate boards when you're the first one in it comes with responsibility so i know once i get that c. because i will people are gonna look at me and say i've never seen a latina. I've never seen a native american. Maybe never had a woman on the board before. And i have a sense of responsibility that i need to show up and be the best director. So it's easier for us behind me. Well i love that so you. You wanna be a trailblazer and i love that. We're friends and that you're constantly trail-blazing final question is what's the legacy you wanna leave The legacy i want to leave is that cynthia did everything in her power to make this world a better place and bring in more love and compassion tolerance and diversity. I love that. I wanna thank you for showing up again. Not for tv. Not for cynthia. 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Ep. 34: Interview with Jeffrey Smith about The Magnificent New Normal
"How we doing try. Welcome to episode. Thirty four my podcast and get real or die trying today. I am super blessed to be sitting down. Virtually with jeffrey smith. I met geoffrey back in two thousand twelve in denver. Colorado in a march against monsanto educational protests both speakers. Jeffrey smith is the song author. He wrote the book. Genetic roulette seed deception. There was a great documentary. That's actually i learned about. Jeffrey smith originally called genetic roulette about gmo's he's leading scientists in authority on the subject of gmo traveled the whole world. He's given thousands of lectures and and educate people on gmo's he's really responsible. I think for the awakening an awareness of the dangers of gmo more recently. He has started a new series called the magnificent new normal for. We're gonna talk about today. Which i'm excited to hear about. And he's the founder and director of the institute for responsible technology. So this guy's got a lot going on and he's had a life of activism and dedication to spreading the good word. So i would sit down. Learn from a main nothing. You do matters in less what you do matters. I remembered on dillard in this is real or die trying. I would do when everybody welcome to get real or died trying as you just heard. I am sitting here with jeffrey smith. I had the pleasure of first meeting. Jeffrey smith back in denver colorado in two thousand twelve. We were both speakers at a march against monsanto protest and educational event. That was happening there. I was Involved back then with trying to spread awareness with monsanto in my own way particularly about organic gardening. Because i grew up on organic farm and so forth. And i was aware of Jeffries work in the field of educating people about gmo's because i had seen a documentary actually called genetic roulette and then he wrote a book at the same of the same title. Which i read. And so i was really excited to meet him. And he's been on my radar ever since so it's really great catch up years later. How you doing. Jeff really good you good. Thank you for coming onto my podcast. I really appreciated I know you're a busy man. You got a lot going on. Sa- go ahead would have been up to what's going on in the world these days well as interesting we. I've been doing it for twenty five years and it's not same old same old at all. It's completely new. In fact we pivoted. I i've been focusing for twenty five years of being a leading on the health dangers of gmo's and roundup and spoken forty five countries and all but now we are pivoting moving into a new area because of an existential threat from gene editing. A cheap and easy gmo technology which is so accessible. You can genetic engineer with a do it yourself can amazon one hundred and sixty nine dollars. You can create new. Organisms vast amounts of spy getting a small cheap laboratory and for the price of creating new organisms especially in the micro world. Now if you think about it you know that when you introduce new. Gmo into the environment. From whatever species are kingdom it could potentially and usually does reproduce and corrupt the gene pool of that species. And you can't clean it up you can't recall. Gmo's salmon from the ocean if it ever escaped or the corn the corn gene pool which it has contaminated. They've released genetically engineered Mosquitoes which dole to the gene pool in the country countries where that was released. Now would you add to that the fact that genetic engineering including gene editing is an unpredictable science and the most common result is surprise side effects. Now you have a combination for disaster where you're putting accident prone technology into the gene pool forever. And you're giving the opportunity to thousands hundreds of thousands ultimately millions of people to introduce hundreds of thousands or millions of new species into the ecosystem. And so we're looking at the possibility of this generation replacing nature so that all future generations do not inherit the products of the billions of years of evolution but instead inherit products of laboratories using technology. That's prone to side effects for sure. Yeah so we've shifted to protect nature now dot com platform. And the first thing we're going to try and protect as the global microbiome the microbes and viruses around the planet which actually are mission critical for human health animal health plant health and ecosystem and because we know from the pandemic you release a virus that goes around the world and wreaks havoc microbes. Have that capacity. And if you release a well-meaning microbe in one location it can circle the globe and wreak havoc and we have a film now coming out cold. Don't let the genie out of the bottle. The trailer is at protect nature. Now dot com when we highlight a couple of bacteria that were nearly released that could have been cataclysmic. It's fascinating when you when you're talking about this. I'm just thinking about this kind of david and goliath battle that we had with monsanto and educating people because back then the batta logistically simply educating people that do you know the food was being modified and and that worked and people got to educate actually worked better than i think some people thought it would and they stopped buying the products and they're wearing israeli took over to the to the point where monsanto changed their name. They got bought by bayer. They tried to hide things. I don't know exactly what's going on. Now they're just bayer. But i think now like you're saying the approach in the battle is different. It's not so much about education that's about this massive battle keeping them from permanently Destroying these these natural bottoms talking about which is pretty serious stuff and to me. It's like it's pretty amazing. That people will think they can play god because that's what they're doing like they think they can actually mess with billions of years of natural evolution. It's like you know it's crazy. You're right and what's happened. In terms of the education aspect is that forty eight percent of the global population. Believe a gm of foods are unsafe. Fifty one percent united states. We have more people than we need in order to drive. Gmo's out of the food marketplace. That's happening Now as far as what is the tactic to try and stop the the corruption of the global microbiome and ecosystem collapse. We we need government regulations. We didn't need government regulations when we were training people to eat non. Gmo because the government's could be pro gmo pro. Monsanto and if no one's going to buy the farmers are going to grow it and the demise of the industry follows but our decisions in the supermarket is not going to stop the introduction of genetically modified microbes or insects trees or birds etc. And so we need to lock down on the level of legislation regulation international treaty. But we can't just stop there. Because i don't personally from my own experience that laws and regulations change with new regimes. I was flown to poland by the government years ago to give a press conference with their minister of of environment. Praising the country's non gmo stan which was quite strong a week later. A new government was voted into place. There was no gmo. I contacted ministers in thailand urging them not to allow outdoor release of. Gmo's field trials. They did not allow it until ten days later when a new government came came into play and took over and said yes. We realized that although we need to move the hand of government we need to embed this message into the collective so we wanted to be part of curriculum. We want it to be part of Scientific association policy interests internet institutional review board policy. We want it to be willing or stood by. Thought leaders wanted to be undocumented. Tv shows you see. We've come to the inevitable time in human history where we can easily redirect the streams of evolution for all time causing permanent irreversible damage and with this new technology comes new responsibility for humanity from now on we must steward all living beings all future generations because for the first time we have a possibility of creaming them and so this actually demands an expanded awareness. And a reframing of our role and something that needs to be established humanity wide. We can't let a rogue nation or a rogue trans-national continue to operate because companies like bear. They can have facilities full of robots driven by artificial intelligence to create thousands of alternatives of jeans and this is not acceptable when we think about protecting nature for the long term Who who some of the who are some of the players in this right now besides bayer and countries who are more on the leading edge of trying to conduct this research and science of trying to mess with a system who besides america their particular hot spots around the globe. That are issues. Well it used to be that because the process of creating genetically modified crop was so capital intensive that it was limited to just a handful of Companies in about six countries but gene editing which was introduced fairly recently is so cheap and easy that for the price of dinner a lab can buy something online and make any organism now culture before release takes more money but essentially all of the biolo- biology labs universities all of the bio oriented companies now in the have access to and use gene editing technologies and there is a myth being propagated by the same companies like their santo dow dupont which has been merged subject to income china which has been merged. There's a myth that the new gene editing is safe predictable and natural and this is being created in order to try to avoid the fate of. Gmo's that we helped create rejection by consumers and regulatory requirements. My phone's ringing netphone. Never ring let it go. Turns out that they're trying to pretend to governments that. Gmo's are safe and they're convincing them so there's major governments that actually have no requirements for release of gene editing the usda There was a company that genetic mushrooms as couple of genetic several of the things they sent a letter to the. Usda saying you're after regulators. Do you said no. because you're gene edited. We don't have to touch it you the. Fda doesn't have to touch it because they don't have any regulatory requirements. The epa has never touch it because they only look at a narrow number of gmo and so essentially no one in the us. Government has to pay any attention if it's genetic with certain parameters and that means that it's a wild west creating releases that can travel like covert nineteen virus affect the world like that and no one is saying stop. So that's why we're stepping up to create a new global movement. So you know what i talk about the dangers of. Gmo's i ask audiences what do you think is more dangerous proprietary survival. Gmo's or climate change most people gmo's which was shocking to me. When i first asked the question even at climate change organizations even climate change conferences. Gmo's our recognized by the majority as equal to or greater rather than equal to or less interested in. This means that well. That's working to our advantage because people are aware uh ability but they're not really where the details so you're working with governmental legislative processes to actually prevent this from happening. Is that your avenue and you're going to have to get in and start protecting by law from scientists you know that's process levels of government international national. We need to bring it up so the and also educate people so people go to protect nature. Now dot com. You can watch the trailer to the film which talks about a particular microbe that could have. Theoretically ended terrestrial plant life was two weeks away from being released at quite a story There's another one that could have altered weather patterns so these are in the in the sixty minute film which we're going to release in april we believe but the trailer is out now. And we're looking to get hundreds or thousands of organizations participating in the distribution of information because it affects all living beings all future generations health nature rights ecosystems future children cetera. Will thanks for work. The will definitely be checking out protect nature in your your website and your video. They're conforto watching that myself before. I move on from that concept. Is there any updates of what's going on with privatization in patenting of seeds. I know for me. That was something that really got me. Fired early on back when we first met in two thousand twelve of and learning about what these poor farmers went through when monsanto's privacy's blue into their field and all of a sudden they're getting sued by monsanto and losing everything and that level of injustice just made my blood. that's why. I wanted to educate as many people as possible and like i said growing up farming myself and understanding beyond just the beauty of farming to me. There's there's a sacredness in the c. The concept of what a seed represents almost infinite possibility inside one tiny seeds is generations. And it's not owned by anybody except for the person who harvests this from the plant and plants it you know and that level of privatization is almost like an assault on our god given rights as human beings and going on in the world that is it kind of died down obviously in the mainstream news. You don't really hear about in in the fight there. But i know it's still happening and i you know to a degree but i haven't been caught up in that lately. Yeah you're asking important point to catch people up a originally. They wanted to create genetically engineered crops produced sterile office. Bring so you wouldn't be able to biologically plant a soybean comes from genetically engineered soybean plant they created to do. It called terminator but international outrage. Stop them from deploying it instead. What they do is they require. Farmers to sign contracts that you use for example bear monsanto's roundup ready soybean seeds. You sign a contract that you only use the roundup from that company. 'cause up the glyphosate which is the chief poison came off patent in two thousand. So the whole purpose of gmo's was primarily to maintain dominance on the sale of roundup herbicide. Monsanto introduce six rounded crops either designed to be killed when they sprayed with roundup but then the farmer signed away any rights to re save their seats now. Some farmers have saved seeds that were illegal and they got pummeled by monsanto. Of course saving seeds is a millennial tradition farmers but a lot of farmers didn't save seeds but got cross pollinated and win and wind blown. Seeds fell onto their their Feels like percy smicer from canada who grew a canola and he was sued by monsanto successfully. Went to the canadian supreme court and they said doesn't matter that you didn't intentionally plant monsanto seeds. It's part of their intellectual property rights and because you harvested the see the canola on your fields as you did every year for thirty five years and replanted it that becomes illegal because wind had blown monsanto's seeds onto your property so he lost And that's the tragedy and monsanto's has sued maybe three hundred different farm farmers for millions upon millions of dollars and they also end the biotech industry in general have a lot of control in governments. So they've been able to convince government legislatures and regulators to pass laws and policies which prevent farmers from saving their own seeds or using unregistered seeds. So they'll say basically if you wanna use a seed for the sake of the of good agriculture. They should be ones that have been approved by science meaning in our catalogs and so they want to eliminate the age old practice of saving seeds which provides literally millions of different varieties of food stuffs because different farmers have different high-quality seeds and by eliminating them and forcing farmers to buy only. What's in the catalog. They get to promote the gmo agenda. But they also risk the life on earth because it's in our diversity that we have security especially at a time of stabilized climate. And so you want to have a lot of diversity in the seeds and in the plants so that you can rely on those that will work well in particular climate and geography. Well with the time we have been destroying our diversity by switching over to industrial farming so hundreds of different varieties of come down to just a handful in so many different categories and the baltic industry wants to reduce it even further with support from the government. So it's still hot issue. There's a there's a big organization so bunch of organizations trying to protect farmers and seats. Yeah small-scale biodynamic organic gardening in culture cultures. Like an active resistance at this point. Growing as many varieties and saving seeds as possible is what needs to happen with millions of people. Really all over. The world is to keep it going because the industrialization of agriculture as you mentioned has gotten so out of hand in the monocropping and the interesting thing is scientists have convinced the world to feel and believe. It's the only way we can feed the masses. Wanna keep up with a massive population growth. We ought to have this massive industrial farming. But it's really not the case. Actually you know. I don't have a lot of scientists. I don't have the the i can't spout off the facts before the research that i've done and reading about it. The the intensiveness of this industrial agriculture is a lot harder on the earth. Actually and you once more resources than many many small scale organic farms and the interesting thing too is the quality of food you know when you have a gmo or just whatever. Mass produced tomato that was harvested green and shipped two thousand miles in his eaten in never had a chance to ripen naturally on the vine the amount of nutrients that tomato is going to have in. It is actually far less than a organic that ripen on the vine. So it's like one person could eat one slice of organic tomato and receive the same nutrients or out to eat three non-organic tomatoes to receive those same vitamins and nutrients because you know and so this is different ways to look at it. You know how we consume in the mount food that's wasted in. This country is unbelievable to him. There's so many subjects around that fifty percent of the food. The country grows is wasted absolute absurdity and of course the agro-business of of me. Now we eat that and the amount of water takes to raise one pound beef and all of these things related. I think to consciousness and the bridges nicely into i think what you're working on now. You can our audience about which. I was excited to see the you have. This new series called the magnificent new normal. And you could tell slow but about that. I wanted to just touch on the title real quick and you can send your own. What it's about. But i was i was diving into it recently and watching some of the the talks on there and the people you have on your show and i love how the title is a plan what we're dealing with right now in the pandemic and then the global situation and it's it is the new normal. I was just having this conversation. The other day with a friend saying people are very resistant to want to accept the new normal. They want to go back to how it was when it may not and accepting the new normal is a consciousness shift then taking it further besides just accepting it being happy about it and seeing it as a magnificent thing in catalyst for change and launching into a new way of thinking and approaching and doing things in life is really a beautiful thing and so it looks like you're shows kind of all about that my interpretation. I haven't had time to watch all the videos. And all the guests on your new show. But let's talk about that for a little bit and you can tell you about the sure extent. I have this amazing sequel series of just amazing. We have bruce lipton. Eban alexander jewel. Zach bush lynne mctaggart. Jerome flynn from game. Of thrones david. Promoter lynch with sue. mortar. Tom o'brien alberto vio. Bj fog it goes on. And why did i pull these people together early. In the pandemic. I asked a number of people would have you noticed. It's new and you. Perhaps i ask people. What's the best thing you've noticed about the pandemic no matter how i worded the question. Everyone was talking about how they were ready to make a change in their life because they either came to a place of stillness quiet in the pandemic pause that they hadn't before instead of going to go back to the rat race that i had before or they learn how much they had cherished something that they gave up and they were not going to go back and take it for granted anymore. Everyone was using the contrasting lifestyle and restrictions. As a way to say. I need to do things differently now as an activist working for twenty five years. I've been aware that when someone says. Okay i'm ready to make a change. That's a significant moment in the process of transformation and it hearkens back to a lecture. I heard with a a spiritual person and a scientist and the scientists as a chemist and he was describing to the spiritual leader of three phases of a phase transition and chemistry. And if you've seen the the graph just moves along horizontal nothing happens than it shoots up to a higher level than it moves along and a parallel slope again and the chemistry was saying you can be putting in high ph low ph drops into the system for a long time and nothing happens then all of a sudden it starts to change and when it stops at levels off into a new normal during the time of face transition when it is changing that is when the quality of the drops makes a difference the quality of the drops in the beginning make no difference in the beginning or the end. It's during the phase transition that the quality determines the the success of the transformation So as an activist icy three face thing in convincing a person or a country or an institution to make a change you work really hard giving one set of information about. Why does rounder dangerous. And that's okay okay. We will phase out. Gmo's and we'll switched to organic whether it's individual institution and then they'll say how when they say how a new quality of information has to come in which makes it possible practical and easy for them to make that transformation. They established new habits. And then you're not gonna get another chance for quite some time. The process of giving that new information is so critical in the timing. It's like and that's what it's right from the time that someone said to make a so. The pandemic did the heavy lifting. It made individual. Say i want to make a change being a student of consciousness. I know you saw the the interview with bruce lipton. He has some powerful science talking about. How consciousness is a field And then mctaggart talks about the field intention experiments. You can influence the field and bob roth. Who's an expert at transcendental. Meditation talks about these collective transformations of society through group practice of meditation. I've been aware. Consciousness is a shared phenomenon. It's not linear local. And i figured if all the people i'm talking to are having that thought we need to make a change. Then it's lively in collective consciousness and that means that the organism of consciousness the field the system of consciousness is ready to make a change and that what is needed at that time is the highest quality input for new perspectives and choices that could allow us to step into the highest version of ourselves. And i think i figured what are the areas that people want to reorganize their lives. They want to understand about themselves. They want to reorganize about their own splintered parts their own traumas that relationships their masculine and feminine their relationship to nature to money. How they're going to want to learn how they make changes to turn new behaviors into habits. What can they do physiologically to which brain functioning so that they can be most successful. So i pulled together with some help from others. The people that i consider to be the most important mentors at this time for this new information with a concept that if we get enough people critical mass moving forward to cause a personal leap of consciousness then that would be effectively moving society forward and so this was to create a magnificent new normal and the ideas. If we simply as you say get our lives back it would be the worst opportunity. Loss in history nichols in never had this time now in the context of the interviews and if people if they can click the link that's associated with the with your show to get there you'll immediately have the opportunity to listen to lynn twist. Lynn twist has been working with indigenous communities and she brings out that the indigenous elders actually prophesied this time as a necessary transformation. She gives the beautiful metaphors of the butterfly transforming into caterpillar. I think my favorite is when she says you're like we all have morning sickness but don't know were pregnant and if we realized what pregnant than the pain were feeling gets reframed. Context recruiting new meeting new or birthing a new world who are yemen. You just touched on a lot of great things and really lot of things that i feel personally aligned with in my life you started talking about the talk. You into the merge spirituality and science. I really liked that. Because i'm actually a student at a university. Called the university of essential science in the physics of rebellion and ascension science is really the fusion of spirituality and science and i think the world has really done itself a disservice for centuries by disassociating science and spirituality and they've always thought the separation of church and state so to speak and not acknowledging our consciousness not acknowledging our spiritual values not acknowledging cause and effect quantum physics. All of these things that play very very important roles in in our world today is kind of like not really seeing the big picture of how things actually work. And i was excited to see that you're going into this zone for like you said you've probably been in this zone for a long long time in your life i just know that Of exploring consciousness and and this new talk sers and the people you have on issues really cool to see. I also studied the book. Biology of belief by bruce lipton. A lot of great concept there and there's a lot of parallels of things that i've been studying in our university in from my spiritual teachers about you know cause and effect and about consciousness and manifestation like you said if we don't catapult off this week it's the huge service to humanity and people want to go back to egypt in their minds to what's comfortable to what's familiar but this is a time to actually shift into a global awareness. I believe in a creator. The creator i believe in it doesn't fit into the boxes. And the ideas of what man is created an evolutionary religions and the and the dogmas of today and my spiritual teachers gable if you ranch in neon emerson shays who happened to be my parents as well. They founded this university that both authors. They've written books. And my father's written some books called the cosmic volumes. And in these books that really talks about similar concepts to the biology of belief our thoughts and our consciousness affects the reality around us. It really breaks down the science of particle reality. How our bodies are even connected to the universe and these things may seem way out way out there for some people but when you start living your life consciously. They don't seem well they're all it all makes perfect sense you know and to me. It's about spiritual intelligence and there's a difference of course between knowledge and wisdom. An ounce of wisdom is worth a thousand pounds of knowledge consciousness when you really start tapping into wisdom and then you can apply the knowledge that you have any human being and so kind of scrolling through a lot of the individuals that you've had on your your talk series. I see a common thread throughout. The people are really putting an emphasis on accountability for their decisions in their lives and and and utilizing the conscience like a tool because it is a tool and all too often people in america. Especially i feel are not tapped into their consciousness because talk to the raise to and i know that you you said something about meditating for years and being a student of consciousness and just taking the time to tap into consciousness. It's a kind of a common practice in eastern philosophy and different cultures in america. We're tapped into the media. Were tapped into softish news for tapped into the stars into instagram facebook. And do whatever we're tapping into we're not pulling in consciousness then we're not pulling in divine information from the creator emblazoned the creator or not. You know the universe is certainly intelligent and when people say oh the universe gave it to me. Well they're right but the universes created and the universe is highly orchestrated and highly intelligent because there's a personality creator behind it. That's my belief but whether someone believes that or not we both believe that the university's indulgent and interesting interesting gaps. That we can make here in one thing you talked about to you. Look at my notes here. Oh you mentioned the indigenous. Yeah and that. And the prophecies in the times that we're in and i totally agree with that that we are in what i call on my teachers. Call the purification times and not only has it been indigenous elders for years. Who prophesized this. The hope you have different indigenous south american cultures have it's sexy nostra dominant and then scripture. There's all these different prophecies throughout cultures in spiritual belief systems that talk about pretty much the time that we're in right now and everybody has a different interpretation of what that means and what that time is and if it's just gonna be a human caused global consciousness Shift or if it means something else is happening my spiritual teachers gable of your rancher. He talks about the return of jesus. Now that jesus though is very very different than the jesus that most people understand this is the cosmic vast. Jesus what some people would be more familiar with christ consciousness but the cosmic christ i say cosmic because he's much bigger than our understanding the bible. Jesus he's an ascended soul masters a creator son of the universal father of god. One of many many creators. That's a big subject or whatever it ought at the end of the day. The great thing is it doesn't actually matter that we may not believe the same thing because our bodies are neatly in our consciousness is tapping into the recognition that these times are happening. We know exactly what's going to happen but we can agree upon something is going to happen. And this is beautiful opportunity for humanity to make that quantum shift in their consciousness. I agree with that. The quantum shift piece so much so and you mentioned about the science and spirituality ascension science. Let me share with you. Some of the lap in some of the speakers that i interview the i'd love to hear more about the well. You mentioned bruce lipton. So let's start there. He bruce's of friend of mine. A great man and in the interview He talks about. You can take a person's sells off the body and put him in a petri dish and put up one hundred miles away and have a livestream video of the cells and of the person and when the person goes into rather extreme emotional state the cells instantaneously react and this demonstrates a field context between us and our cells which he says is also like other the trillion cells that we have in our bodies are also part of that field effect and he talks about that in a very elegant way on the interview. Now lynne mctaggart talks about having a group of people intending with specific intention to make a change of purifying water or growing seeds at a certain way or healing someone and has statistically significant results showing that the intention appeared to have a conversation effect. Then you have Bob rough talking about collective practice of meditation causing changes in societal values like crime rate in accident rate and hospital admissions and talking about it on the quantum level. Now you have the physiological side where you have people like david pearl mutter who talks about shifting to the prefrontal cortex from the middle. He wrote a book with a berta the although at one point and he talks about going from homo sapiens homologue munis and talks about the four areas of the brain and moving into that From a physiological standpoint that may have been alexander who was a neuroscientist who have the most famous near death experience on the planet got the cover of newsweek called proof of heaven and he talks about at a time when his brain was dead and was not allowed to from physiological thorughout theoretical standpoint have thought he was having the most glorious experience of his life in a field of unity and love with a whole society beings and the and and came back to report on it but he also discovered there was no way from physiological framework that he could have even had a thought during the time that he was having these experiences. So we have then. We have Kristen kirk who is like a day mystic a state of unity at all times and she talks about her experience and sue mortar who had a unique unit experience jerome. Flynn from game of thrones. He talks about his unique experience. See have the people with the experience you have the people with science and then you have the people that overlap some of the scientists that are having the experience and so the fact that consciousness is at field is one of the recurring themes the fact that you can influence the field with human. Consciousness is another the fact that there's a movement from the more classical expression physics like billiard bull newtonian to quantum field in our expression of evolution of consciousness is another theme covered by many many of the speakers. And then there's what happens when you leap forward in consciousness so Hollywood's talks about a very profound series of stages of consciousness and said she describes how from her observation humanity actually jumped to stage since entering the pandemic and described some of the changes that she was seeing in the data and the news and that it's still happening other talk about balancing the masculine and feminine others talked about shifting the relationship with nature so many different ways that the shift of consciousness and evolution manifests. Now what happens is there's so much information in these interviews. There's thirty available at once and another ten plus more For people that want to buy the whole package There's so much information that when you purchased one when you sign up which is free when you sign up for the registration. There's video from me that says how do you get the most out of this and we have seven ways to do that and one is not to try to write everything down and absorb it all and run it like. It's a quiz because we're all starting from a different place and the edge. My edge of evolution may be different than your edge of evolution. And what you resonate. With as your gem of wisdom you will feel in your own way and feel a different gem and a different to do list and a different thing that calls to me. So i talk about how to listen to these using a journal to get an idea of. What is the message for us. That's why you can listen to the same thing you know a week later a year later ten years later. And it's as if it's a completely different series but we ran this originally as a forty dan forty program with one life transforming interview per day in the fall as a beta test. People loved it. One person said quote the most uplifting. Someone i've ever come across another person said quote in my seventy. Three years of life was by far the most magnificent series of talks. I've ever been a part of another person. Wrote quote enjoyable informative and transformational presentations. I've ever participated in so those people say they were looking forward each day to the next interview and i wanted to be very very easy so people didn't have a fear of missing out. They didn't have to try and stuff everything into one day but some people actually wanted more than one per day. They wanted a retreat style. They wanted to to binge unconsciousness and so we put it as a week long program. It's happening right now and you can go to the link to catch a magnificent new normal and so i recommend if you wanted to do it for twenty days or forty days or whatever just a low cost programmes just purchase it and set it up so that you create the speed of of assimilation of listening of absorption and integration that works for you and in addition to the people who master content. There's people who master process like bj fog from stanford who wrote the book tiny habits he explains. How if you wanna learn. Make something into habit what you need to do so that it. The new behavior quickly becomes a habit how you use your emotions and use triggers use certain anchors to make that a reality so there's the content the process and then you get to decide how often you want to listen to these and how you want wanna process it yeah. It's really a quite an outstanding series of people in a lot of information. That was like i said i scrolled through it and check it out. I watch the bruce lipton ones and flip through a few others. I signed up for it today. To someone deflect consume it all over not a week spread it out. I want to circle back to a few things you said just wrote down you. You talked about the best versions of ourselves. In that has a correlation to something i prescribe to which is the concept of the lower in the higher self the indigenous talk about the the white wolf for the black will which will for you're gonna feed and every human being on this plan is faced with the with the dual nature whether they believe it or not the human animal origin nature and then their spiritual nature and i think consciousness bridges those consciousness is when you start coming out of your animal origin nature into your spiritual nature your higher self the best version of yourself but you. It's interesting delicate balance. Because i don't think that means you deny your human nature and human. I don't mean like humanity animal origin nature. It's because when we started having the realization of our spiritual minds and our s- that were spiritual beings in the human body that these bodies our vessels for consciousness for our souls when we start having those realizations a lot of other concepts fall into place in how we live our lives how we make decisions. How perceive situations and you know. There's a lot of. I think now on the planet right now. There's a lot of emphasis on self help. Which is great. All the sudden people realizing they can help themselves. They can digest information knowledge. Rita booker listen to these podcast in consume all this data and simulate it to help themselves and that's great. It's great that people are taking responsibility and accountability to better themselves. And with that. I think the need and the recognition of teachers and mentors and great minds. And i think you've collected a lot here which is really cool to consume that data. Because there's a lot of the funny thing too is now you got you know thirty something year old on instagram whereas a million followers an all of a sudden he's a self help coach about because he has wisdom or because he has knowledge she but because he has a lot of followers which is funny too. I really liked the depth of what you presented. And i'm definitely going to share it with all the people on your show because these are people who've done research experienced lived and they're not just someone who's teaching someone about something because they have a lot of followers because they got social media famous real quick because they posted some viral video which happens a lot. Actually a lot of people are listening especially for my generation. The millennials i guess you'd call it and of course younger are listening to all the wrong people i in my life have always valued having spiritual elders to go to and i'm beginning to evaluate even more sometimes i resisted it because the spiritual l. They're usually tells you what you don't want to hear or they tell you something. That's hard to digest our do understand. It goes against the easy path. Human beings are innately e seekers consciousness in growth takes work. It takes tremendous working. It takes commitment than it takes study and you were talking about. The overlapping of science and spirituality would intrigues me about that. And i've always appreciated is that scientists natively have to study they neatly to commit to a process to analyze. Something collect the data. Come up with a summary and it's not an easy thing. There's time involved in this. Commitment involved spirituality is actually the same way and so when you merge the two i think emerging a mental consciousness of discipline and intellect and applying it into the consciousness of spiritual evolution. And then. you're you're merging these ideas of. Wow now i actually have to somehow apply spiritual values into my life. You know it's not this amorphous study. What is love. What is compassion. what is consciousness. What is being lighted. You mentioned State of unity. How to get to that unity. Because as i mentioned earlier we are dual nature. Human beings were always struggling with the duality. And you know to me. Enlightenment is when someone is no longer having to fight their lower self and they're always that constant state of their higher self. I don't think there's as many people as we may believe on the planet who are in that state. That's an ascended master. Me no level. I think their spiritual teachers and elders who are in that state more than a lot of people but every human being has to battle that and come into that state of unity but when we start applying spiritual values into our lives just as we would apply scientific value into our lives because we understand the fact and that it works and if you boil water two hundred and ten degrees it's boiling. It's a fact. We live our life. Boil the water. We cook things with it and we just do it. Because it was discovered insisted. Nate within us we can actually do the same thing with spiritual values and practices that are proven and that to me is like the field of discovering consciousness. That's the field of of applying that and it. it's the difficult thing to then apply consciousness in our daily lives because we can get intellectually and spiritually stimulated by reading and seeing hearing but then how do we go out and our day to day and apply consciousness and my spiritual teachers have always talked about. Distilling it down to just being a good person. What does that mean well for all of us. You know you could be at a stop light and someone comes up behind unions honking the horn and you want to flip them off and the go f- themselves on in that moment there's a synapse of an a whole situation happens in the brain and the heart and the mind where you can then exercise self mastery and consciousness to prevent you from flip that person off now that seems like a really simple and trite example. But i think that it's a simple example. That's that is effective because in those milliseconds of deciding if you're going to get out and flip that person off to increase in respond with good or evil it's those moments that you exercise consciousness because you placed value on consciousness. So what i'm getting at. Is that a human being has to place value on something to use it. We place value on the nice car. We place value on money. We place value on the big house. We place value on all these external things that bring temporal moments of supposed happiness but when we start placing the value on the deeper consciousness and the deeper spiritual things that's when the consciousness and the quantum shift can happen that you're talking about and bruce lipton touches on this since biology of belief in one of the things he said in your video with him is that he says People people have power in community and he was talking about the pandemic and the separation in social distancing and all that and how we lose our connection and how devastating that is to human nature and spiritual nature. And you know someone myself. I living community and i was raised in a community with people from all over the world actual literal intentional spiritual community. And so i know what that's like to be surrounded by many souls an kindred spirits and beyond the sim collective consciousness wavelength. It's a powerful thing. And so i can relate to your excitement about a global consciousness. Quantum shift happening and that it is possible. Because i can see what it can do with just one hundred mines. All united in their consciousness and bruce lipton also talked about These are just a couple of notes thrown around for audience to hear when they check out your show but he said that the test went on our eighty to ninety percent of people did not pass a test about loving themselves that stood out to me. in a good way like they feel poorly about themselves and in this world right now the media the information that we consume and the rhetoric from the people that people are wrongly paying attention to is that. We're not good enough. Nothing's good enough. You're not good looking enough. You're not smart enough. You don't make enough money. You not this this. You never good enough with that does when you have a disempowered person there is no consciousness and so we have millions of disempowered people especially in this country. Because we're chasing this illusion of an american dream. Were chasing this illusion of what success and happiness is when success and happiness is actually conquering the next moment with love and compassion and consciousness and most importantly being in the creators will for whatever it is for you to do with your life and so chasing happiness in the material world is something that i think you're series will help people to realize if they start watching and learning about these things that they're happiness isn't coming from the next car the next purse they buy or the next whatever their happiness is coming from a state of consciousness in a state of consciousness is ultimately controlled by our own selves. How we perceive things the situations wherein and so you know man's search for meaning that book viktor frankl. He talks about that quite a bit. I mean this man is in a concentration camp in the most dire circumstances and the power of the mind consciousness to shift his perspective actually find joy even in times in that. Circumstance is absolutely remarkable. It's a good reminder so this read that book again for all of us. Because i think most western people are spoiled them and we don't really have a sense of of reality that's accurate compared to most of the world. So i ask every single person i interview five questions i two up front and then the last three of the end and the first question is what your vision for post pandemic civilization and they give the image of where they think we can go from this which locks us onto target which is so important in transformation processes to know where you want to go into pull the different visions from these different speakers. The second question is what suggestions do you have to help. People step into the highest version of themselves and the variety of responses is stunning. So you have you know master chief. Who's a master level from taichi and kung fu and fang hsi-wei western medicine and chinese traditional medicine. And all that. And he has one answer and then you have a seventeen year old. Who's a black lives activist leader. Who had an internal transformation where she's awakened and doesn't feel fear deafening more. Her answers completely different. And there's like you get to hear the different answers before we go deep into the meat of each interview which is all about their particular story and their angle. Bruce lipton you talked about. He went into those particular aspects. And then how do you make the change in consciousness. So that it becomes spontaneous cheryl and part of your life and not always having to struggle with that and we have many different people talking about it. 'cause one question i ask. Everyone towards the end is give us practical exercises. So some people lead us through specific meditations or they give us very specific things we can do during the day in order to integrate the changes that they were talking about about five or six people. Talk about the importance of the physiological shift in order to assimilate those changes. I mentioned that earlier. The shifting from the sympathetic to the power sympathetic four or five people arrogant meets. Gabriel cram. Albert oviedo Austin david promoter. Tom o'brien all of them. Talked about that shift as necessary. In order to raise our levels of consciousness and alberto viola talked about the reptilian brain. The mammalian brain The human brain and then this this higher level and then there was specific recommendations as to what we can do to overcome the the embedded restrictions the embedded habits so sue mortar as particular technique for breathing and bringing energy up the spine that was to release particular old habits through mechanistic. Catherine would were thomas as a way of talking to and connecting with the psychic parts in us. Kristen kirk has their own specific way of being with her own consciousness and feeling through to burst through another level. And these were and bob ross transcendental meditation completely spontaneously changes consciousness over time without without having to try and struggle so there was some very practical techniques coming from different places master. She had a whole breathing technique with sounds and whatnot. So it's like it's a it's a buffet. it's a buffet that we get to figure out and feel into what is calling us. What works for us. We try it and if it if it does work it will cause a shift in the physiology it will cause a shift in consciousness. He will help us to more spontaneously. Act from our higher levels. And then there's things we can put our attention on from that level. Deborah pondimin about the the pure principles of success Sarah mccrum relationship with money. Alison armstrong the male female dynamic. And how to how to shift that. So there's ways that we can take this higher state of consciousness and stage of consciousness and sort out new perspectives and choices so we ended up in our magnificent new normal very cool. Yeah just sounds like you got a landmine. Their information and wisdom and experience from all different types of people like you said all walks of life which is very cool but there's overlapping between hall of them. You know it's it's unique. So how did you come up with this idea. And we kind of locked up in your house. A year ago during the pandemic. And you're like what's going on here and what we actually. It actually was asking these people. What's what do you notice if the pandemic and hearing everyone talk about the need to make a change and because i'm already oriented towards a concept of collective consciousness and i was looking at this as a potential for leaping forward. I am been aware of research on collective transformation through meditation. I've been aware of all these things. being meditators myself and i think also there was an intuition and a knowing in me and in talking to Alario merck yulia. Who's a an elder in the onondaga nation. He talks about this as a prophecy. Time as well Anita sanchez also from indigenous background. Alberto vilar although they talked about this time and if you catch lynn twists interview which is available to anyone registered. No matter what it's available. Low with the bruce lipton shocks about a five hundred year cycle according to a tradition of indigenous wisdom. That she's aware of from about fourteen ninety two till about nineteen. Ninety-two was five hundred years. Which was marked by dominance and darkness. And then now. It's a five hundred year cycle balance in light but in the first two or three decades. There's there needs to be a change because what happens is there's the eagle in the door people. The eagle is the western side. Where they have this by this time achieved the highest level of advancement of the mind but they are not connected to the heart and they need connection to the heart and indigenous wisdom to survive. And then there's the condor people who are deeply at the at the epitome of their connection to the heart and in digital but are not as effective in the mind the to need each other to survive. And that's the coming together at this time of the masculine feminine of the heart and the mind but during the first twenty or thirty years of this five hundred cycle earth steps up to humble the Eagle people realize that they understand the the the role of earth so whether issues pandemic etc she. She gives a whole narrative of what may be happening. This time according to indigenous wisdom and it's fascinating and we hear a different slightly different thing from lauren yulia etc. But if this is in fact a time of transformation if it is lynn talked about as learned something that our souls prayed into existence so that our society would not be careening off a cliff. But actually changing bruce lipton and Lynch was talking about if we're actually entered a cocoon and the cocoon physiological. Transformation from the butterfly caterpillar to butterfly requires lynch was talks about the magical cells waking up and causing gathering together and causing the orchestration from one to the other and is allowing makiya said this well lynch has said if you're listening to the series you are international sell and you have a job to do and allow req- said yes. I see that you are one. That's supposed to be doing this. And master chief said yeah. He told me. I was in five months of silence. And they told me about your thing. And i talk to god. He said. Oh yeah we should. He came out silence to give the interview. They went back into silence for another month. There was a sense that we may be onto something big and we were tracking something. that's in the fabric of consciousness itself So if we're right then it wasn't necessarily me independently away from everything coming up with this idea. Loan it may have been a tugging of collective consciousness. And i happen to be in a good position to pull this off because i try been speaking traveling the world for twenty five years. I know many of these people i understand. The consciousness dynamic and i had the time to invest to put in the dozens and dozens and hundreds of hours of interviews and research to create this and from what people have said when we ran the the beta test in the fall. It worked so. I have to say i can tell you what the mechanics of how i thought about it but i think it's probably deeper. Yeah always yeah. That's the goal thing anything. That's beautiful like that is divinely led thing because quite deep. And we're vessels that that information. What's exciting for me is is is when scientists come into spirituality. And i've always often wondered what's what is that thing in the middle of that that gap that makes it really hard for scientists. Come into spirituality. And i think that scientists could be iga. It could be the linear idea of just that everything has an answer. You know x. y. z. That there's a solution and when you when you start coming into spirituality. There's a lot more mystery. There's a lot more to the interview. The interview with evan alexander was perfect because he was he was a neuroscientist who was not spiritual any lands in this most spiritual landscape which he describes the interview now becomes now a babe in the woods in completely new area. Scared of what people are going to say. If he speaks about his truth he turns out. He has now a partner who was more advanced in the spiritual world and she has been helping him for seven. These last seven years step in stabilize and magnify his experience but he talks about that. One of the reasons why society is stuck is that science has tried to deny the connectedness of all things And he was an example of how that worked absolutely. That's a big one right there in that. We're not even even. There's the connectedness of all things on the planet. But even bigger than that. There's connectedness to the universe and to the creator and there's the indigenous have had those teachings for a long time they that and the cool thing about indigenous others from experiences that they have a very earth thing grounding science and spiritual concept of respect for mother earth the nature and the earth and cause and effect but at the same time they actually do have a cosmic connection to the universe and he kinda can sometimes get lost in the more popular teachings of a lot of native american or different indigenous elders. But they're really cosmic their understanding in the hope he had that in their prophecy to that was really quite cool and and realizing that the hope is believed that they come from the stars. You know from different planets in that. Were you here on this planet. And so i get excited about harvesting all of these different concepts and information from all these great minds different walks of life and and embracing the mystery and again the scientists. I think sometimes throughout time haven't gone into spirituality enough because they haven't it's not a linear thing where you can just have the answer sometimes a reason to answer time. There's a mystery and that's okay you know what if you're used to having an answer and you used to talking about the end zone basing all your decisions often answer that doesn't exist. It could be uncomfortable place to go. But i agree i love. I love i love. I love the bridging. That's happening through all the people on your show. It's very cool. I was talking to a and not only is part of the interview but also we did. A facebook live recently about the magnificent new normal and he talked about. He comes from indigenous peoples that have the most densely populated coastline. Maybe in the world and it was up in the aleutian islands. Chain in alaska and they did not have any food storage technology and so he said they they survived and they survived for millennia. And we're not taken over by others and he said it's because they were in the moment now present and being present there was that wisdom and connection with nature. It talked about seeing an animal as as as a teacher. How the animal or bird. Whatever his in the moment and doesn't need to plan and whatnot but it becomes part of the synchronised unfoldment of life so he talked about that as one of the teachings of the elders of his people that to learn from nature to be in the moment and that the survival turned out to be organized from the knowing of the people they didn't need to have food storage technical interesting interesting Example does for the core. I think there's a parallel almost every spiritual religion and teaching that i found about the concept of being in the moment yes being in the now being present and that continuous teaching might be presented slightly different different people. But it's so true. And i think anxiety right now. Is it all time high and in this country. Nobody knows what's coming what's gonna happen. And we're all anxious then everybody's taking drugs for you know you can't be in the moment you can't be a peace when people are constantly in the state of fear and anxiety which i think twenty twenty did a wonderful job of causing that to happen Just because of the pandemic and all the went on politics and the social environment we find ourselves in this kind of explosion of of uncertainty took place not really actually the whole world. You know. Because i live in this country so i can speak to. This country really happened all over the world. But i think when people had a choice to go into stillness and peace and meditation and coming into that moment and that centeredness or go on to more anx- anxiety and confusion. And i think there's a divide that happened in that divide that happened on a macro level the country and politics and black lives matter white. Lives matter and this and that was kind of a it was a macro version of what was happening in the micro of human beings and consciousness on this in this country and individuals. Having the inner battle of were. Do i turn to right now. Because if you don't if you don't turn to the creator you don't turn to whatever your higher power is your higher consciousness if people don't believe in the creator you know you have to turn to something. So some people turn to. They turned to violence turned to drugs. They turn to whatever to me personally. What's working my wife. Always turning to the creator into that divine consciousness that we can all human beings tap into and find that piece in the moment. Find that clarity find that purpose and find that stillness. Unity a lot of people. Though you know. They don't realize that they have access to that to that consciousness and the amazing thing is when but also happens is of gone all over the place but i was thinking about. How like. there's this whole new thing about being woke. You know this guy's woke with persons woke now. And what does that mean that. They're woke because all the sudden they finally have a little bit of courage to make a little political statement from their platform to their millions of fans or they have a little bit of consciousness about this or that subject in you know but are they really woke. I mean have they really tapped into consciousness and spiritual values in their life because being educated in being slightly conscious is not being fully conscious. You know. I think the next step for a lot of humanity is the education of a lot of the concepts. You've speakers on your show talking about a lot of spiritual people are talking about. But not so i think now people need to start really learning about spiritual values and how to pr- practice then because i think humanity through greed through selfishness materialism these lower states of consciousness or the reasons why. Gmo's exists the reasons why we can destroy earth through very irresponsible techniques of farming and harvesting energy and living on the planet they exist because we are selfish greedy and lazy and all these things so if collectively those lower patterns those lower selce that we all have can be overcome with the best versions of ourselves higher selves are true nature are divine nature coming into our god given personalities we can then e kind of e kind of naturally erases those problems. I mean that naive way. But you know you and i get that because we we practice consciousness we practice being in the moment but i think milnes he will start getting that that like the problem goes away when there's when you change your consciousness and that's something that gable of your and my teachers been teaching for twenty five thirty forty years That consciousness dictates reality and a lot of indian hindu cultures. Talk about that a lot to sits as a teaching. That's translate a lot of different ways. And i just love seeing how that teaching gets presented in a different way through different minds. The biology belief is really all about that in different ways. And so that's the time we're in right now on this planet and that people have a choice to make what direction they're going to go and we're still in that choice and he's just because we're not on lockdown as much in those we think we know more about this pandemic we're still in the stage of. Where do we go next as a humanity. What decisions do we make. And the thing is in a boils down to people have to be willing to change if they don't want to change themselves in their personal lives and what they're doing and how they're thinking that nothing's going to change so each individual has to be willing to change change usually means giving up something it means making sacrifices it means reinventing yourself and it means being willing to be uncomfortable because oftentimes when you even when you're learning something like arithmetic as a kid. I remember my brain hurt. I hated math. And like my brain hurt and it was hard i. it's just hard to learn. It's really the same thing with spiritual concept it's hard to learn them and it's even harder to apply them because any of us can talk about being loving and kind and compassionate and woke meanwhile actions maybe something different you know so. Yeah this yeah. This podcast is is about being of the taglines is the pursuit to self mastery. And i think it's that. Because i i'm i'm trying. I'm trying to master myself and i'm failed miserably. All the time it it at least i'm drying And it's also called real or die. Trying and i call it that because we have to be real real. Human beings and realness is true spiritual nature because when we had the facades and we're fake and we're not being real were just fake people and so to get to reality though and to get to be real. There's lot of work or die trying to journey. You know it's not like an easy thing you know and so put in that play on that is for me and what. I've always been taught his that being kind and being loving these are simple concepts that we may just say they have to have twenty six letter words and all this you know science behind it but to get to the point of kindness and to get to the point of true loving nece. That's where yet to start bringing in spiritual concepts and study to be able to apply in those moments. You have to start learning how the mind works how the soul works how you can use self control to prevent you from doing something else to somebody else. That's going to hurt them and cause problems because that's what our world that's basically. The basis of problems in world is that were reckless in our actions as human beings reckless about the effects it has on nature reckless about the effects. it has on other human beings. And we don't consciously act. We don't take responsibility enough for our actions so there's a couple of things i want to respond to from what you said you talked about that. Sometimes getting our work done makes us uncomfortable. immediately remembered the answer to the question that i asked to clare. Dubois was magnificent. Environmental activists and deep feeler And i said what. How can people step into the highest version of themselves and she said get more uncomfortable. Get go into the uncomfortable. Parts of your body. Go into the things that you've been trying to avoid feeling in in being unin tried to stay in the comfort zone. We lose our connectivity to nature. We lose our connectivity to the moment we insulate ourselves and it was just a magnificent answer. I highly recommend for take. It listened to clear washi- you know she has so many goose bump moments and then the other thing you mentioned which i think is sort of like brings together the whole the whole podcast and a nice a nice bow at the end and that is the connection between consciousness. And the gmo's with gmo's it's one of the more narrow reductionist ways of thinking that you could possibly imagine. You take this elegant Most highly compact defied level of intelligence in biology the dna which we haven't conquered we don't understand it. It's so absolutely complex and full of intelligence and we ignore almost everything that we know about it and pretend that it is easy and simple and that we have mastered the keys to changing traits without hurting anything else and yet for the last thirty years whenever we try and venture into genetic engineering. Because we're doing it in reductionist thinking we end up with holistic problems things we never thought would go bed are going bad similarly the arrogance to think that we can go in and pretend that we know what's going on and make a change releasing organism and have it be dealt with by all future. Generations cursing us for dropping other words like an eighteen fifty nine when they release twenty four rabbits in australia so that hunters from england could feel better. 'cause they could hunt rabbits well. There's no predators there so by the nineteen twenties. There was over ten billion rabbits not a good idea. So now it was from one invasive species here we have well-meaning scientists wearing the blinders willing to replace all species or most species in an ecosystem. So the antidote to that in addition to the general awareness if we can leap forward understand the intelligence of nature honor humans role in a more humble way if we can see the unity of consciousness between us and others and we can act accordingly. That makes our job at the institute for responsible technology. Trying to lock this down so much easier. It's in the can because now we're dealing with a humanity that gets it where the consciousness has awoken to the place where they understand. Humidity understands its role as part of lis- intelligence of nature and wouldn't dare go in and and miss things up for future generations so it turns out that the magnificent new normal talks about a way of transforming consciousness to fulfill the goals of protect nature. Now and these are the two things that we've been talking about. So far on this podcast. Yeah summarized a great. I think another word that comes to mind is protecting the sacred because the evolution is sacred. The seed is sacred. Genetics is sacred and to think that we can go and mess with it as kind of the same thing going mining open pit mine and the beautiful sacred area and blown into the earth and just messing with it and destroying something that sacred and because we think we're getting something else better from it and so we're ignoring what's there for this illusion of something else were on the losing because it's real it's there but is it our right. Is that the right thing to do. And what are the side effects to take from me. You know. I just looked. Matthew fox was the guy that speaks a lot of the ancient sacred from christianity and from the mystics and weaves it altogether in a narrative. That's just simply stunning and terms of sacred and also male female makes things. Yeah that's very cool. It just sounds like you just a litany of people on there that i was just tremendous knowledge. And you talk about the. I appreciate it. Because it's you're bringing in some of these beautiful concepts. I get to go. Yeah that reminds me of. Oh yeah terry patent said this. And and We'll total who's phd was how to help. People opened their intuition like. Oh yeah that's another. So many different pieces have come out about this magnificently normal inspired by your own thoughts about consciousness. Growth the creator creation of being in the present moment. Beautiful man so all of your travels over the years and these people you interviewed more recently. Have you ever come across. A book called the ranch book. I have known about that since the seventies yeah. I haven't read it. But i know about it. Yeah yeah you should check it out. It's a pretty mind blowing pretty mind blowing book. It's one thousand pages. The first portion of the book is really about the history of this planet which the book is referring to this planet. Is you rancho. So it's kind of called the earth book about the history of this planet and amazing in for i think for a scientific spiritually intellectually stimulated. Mind like yours. You would really appreciate it. Talks about evolution. Thank you also talks about the universe and the master university and and how it's designed inhabited in such talking about celestial beings and the beautiful orchestration from hierarchy of paradise down and then the last part of the book is the life and teachings of jesus and that scares a lot of people who've us unfortunately on this planet. We've had some pretty bad examples in religion. About what jesus is you know was two people but the cosmic christ and jesus christ michael of neb don of this universe that we find ourselves in is pretty cool and he's a lot bigger than what we understand the book sometimes. It's not a book you have to start at the beginning and just read through the beginning. The ford of the book is the most intense dense intellectually hard to understand the whole book and so people read the forward and then they stopped like i'm done with this. It's a book that you can just flip through. And i think you'd appreciate especially the science Aspect of the origins of this plan. And and the growth of how we've evolved because one thing that has always been a conflict is people who really believe in in spirituality or religion. They think it's at odds with the concepts of evolution. We've evolved and and a lot of the things that science presents is fact. And that true we have evolved and the ranch book talks about that evolution process it into big bang theory or you know that we have all two thousand years or whatever people think we're talking. Millions of years of evolution and perfect design of our organisms. Says really cool. Thank you the lastly. I just wanted to I wanted to thank you for coming on the show. Man and and touch on briefly. One last concept that you brought up that i liked or maybe i think i read it in your in your bio. And you're talking about the. You've been meditating since nineteen seventy five. And i think for me the way i perceive that as somewhere along your journey in life you discovered that there is really tremendous value on individual spiritual growth not just the attainment of knowledge because my understanding of your work over the years has been a lot of intellectual knowledge factfinding. This is why. Gmo's or bad indifferent things in your in your institute for responsible technology but somewhere. I think i'd like to know more about was it more recent or has it always been there in the background but what happened in your life for. When was it you kind of the hamam moment. That met with more spirituality coming in two years scientific findings if you will question. No one has ever asked me that. I was curious myself. So i grew up. I i was born with it. It was it was a knowing. There was no doubt whatsoever about the the the path that humans run for personal development self-discovery attainment and i was involved with transcendental meditation Pretty intense leaf and living in fairfield iowa for many years Which is the home of maharishi international university and when i decided to take on a a a role as an activist. My book seeds of deception became the world's best selling book on the subject. I was traveling around the planet many many times. I made a conscious decision. Knowing the nature of monsanto. Who was the they were the company that was the primary evildoers. If you wanna go that way they were they were they. Were very clearly a bending the truth lying committing fraud. I mean we. We've exposed then it's not it's not the radical it's right there in black and white and they one of the ways that they did is they. They attacked individuals Anyway they could and that we're speaking out against them. And i was writing chapters of books and articles about how they attack this particular. Scientists to that particular scientist captured this particular regulatory agency. And i knew it was just a matter of time before they start attacking me and of course they did when my prominence and the on the scene became large enough. They just put a lot of money secretly funding so-called scientists trying to attack me. And i realize that i didn't need. I didn't need to tell them that i was in meditate. I need to tell them anything about myself. I'll just focus on the facts. And i won't take a position on anything else because i want the bar to be as low as possible for people to step on the train to eat non. Gmo eat organic to protect themselves in the planet. I didn't take a position publicly on politics. I don't take the position publicly on vaccines on this thing or that thing. I just keep my personal life out of it because whatever. I do say they're listening. They're listening to this conversation now. They're looking to see if there's anything that they can say to work against me. So they did private investigator analysis of me. Look in my life for any skills clause and found out that i meditate and dance and so they tried to use those things against me and so like say So i i chose to. You're right. i gave the impression publicly. That i'm focused on science and facts and whatnot background. Is that my practice of meditation. Was sustaining me energetically as tonight's question for thirteen straight and gave me the energy and clarity to do the job. But i wasn't at about that because anything you say can will be held against you by monsanto so so it was always there in the background. Well that's really cool. And i figured that because there's an activist myself. I know that there's always more in the background. The sustaining one. You had to have something more bigger than yourself to go to the practice in rejuvenation technique. Because anytime you're activists you put yourself you put yourself on the front. He can take the fire. You're gonna get misrepresented. My father's been an activist for his whole life and he started talking about the merger of the word spiritual again. He started a concept and a movement called the spiritual lucien which is the the merge of the words spiritual and revolution or spiritual evolution spiritual solution a spiritual lucien movement and in magnificent normal. Terry pat end matthew fox and others talk about spiritual activist so yari similar similar concept. Yeah and i think when i was when i met you in denver i was actually travelling under the banner of the spiritual lucien movement and marching in that march and i had been traveling. The whole country actually with my comrades teaching people educating them about the spiritualism movement and the need for the marriage of spirituality and activism and spiritual activism and spiritual revolution and spiritual evolution of the mind heart and soul. And it's really not a raising of arms. It's a raising of awareness. And this concept from gable rancho tom but he he got misrepresented very early on in his rise so to speak because he came against a lot of powerful people. Here's an environmentalist. And of course dateline nbc came into the whole smear campaign on him. He in call them a cult leader. And it's pretty amazing. How effective the enemy can be disgracing. Somebody instantly i. i've had. I've had the biotech industry. Try that a lot in fact In the recent roundup trials where bear monsanto got essentially convicted vite three juries for causing the cancer of three people. Four people who use roundup and got. Oh yeah there's there's actually a document about me used discovered by the the attorneys that was used in the trial and referred to in the closing arguments. How i was pointing out the scientific problems around up and gmo's there were more dangerous for children and their response was wackle that they were basically taking their hired guns to go after me once again and you which is what they do. Yeah yeah it is and so. I'm glad that you talked about your meditation practice. And that's what sustains you for years. Because i think anyone who is an activist knows that It's gonna take more than a good night's sleep go get up the next. Get up the next day and do it again. So i applaud you for for years of activism and staying to the course and the david and goliath battle that you've you've been in and now allow the new work you're doing and you're institute for responsible technology. I name alone. I think you know just educating people but also when you when the word responsibility comes in i always associate that immediately with consciousness because it's not we're not responsibility is an action into action that takes consciousness to do to apply and even just the concept of being addicted to our devices. You know we're not using that technology responsibly. human beings. I mean. I'm everybody is but i'm pretty sure that most people in the entire world probably a little addicted to their device. It's instant information instant this. It's all of a sudden you got you got the dopamine response in your brain because you've got constant information all the time on your phone so we can be responsible in so many areas of our life and we can take that responsibility and encourage others and teach others and it it transcends just one direction you know that's the cool thing about consciousness it's like air just permeates everything. So when she started getting conscious in one in one area yet to become conscious and another and another another and that's really the great thing about being an activist and spreading awareness and educating them. If you're avenue years ago was about gmo's and the seeds of deception and so forth. it's now been able to spread into all of these areas of you're educating people through these people on your new show i appreciate that man. It's it's great work and I can't wait to tell people about it and to spread out and myself to continue watching it. Because i started and and see all the right people on your show. I really thank you for taking the time to come on my show and hopefully a come on your podcast. Sometimes you ever podcasts. Live healthy well all right. We'll check that out. Everybody live healthy. Well check out his website. The institute for responsible technology dot org. That's responsible technology dot org and the campaign protect nature now dot com and on your page next to the podcast. We'll be the link for a magnificent new normal which is going on right now. There's also a weekend so if you happen to catch the podcast a little late and it looks like it's over still register because you'll get those you'll get those bruce lipton lynne. Twist videos amend. There may be an encore weekend. That's right right around the corner very cool. Thanks a lot jeff. It's been great having you want to check out my website. Get real or die. Trained dot com. Leave me a voicemail anchor dot fm slash real or diatribe nine rate and review us apple podcasts or any of the platforms. Listen on be sure to follow me on social media and share this podcast with your friends. Word of mouth is a great way to share the vibe. Get real or die. Trying with amazon delivery as production of global change media and remember. Pain is temporary. Victory is eternal.