20 Episode results for "Anini"

Heroines Week Truganini

Chompers

03:16 min | 2 years ago

Heroines Week Truganini

"Choppers is produced by Gimblett and sponsored by crest and oral B. Get ready for some Queen teeth because it's time for choppers. Your morning and night tooth brushing ship. Start brushing on the top of your mouth and brushing little circles all the way around each. It's heroines week. And today, we're talking about a courageous woman from a place called Tasmania whose name was any. Tasmania is an island near Australia is a group of people there called the Palau wa the palolo were the first people to live on that island and trick Anini was one of the Palau up people. Swisher rushing to the other side of the top of your mouth and brush the molars in the way back. Drug Anini was the daughter of a leader and left living on the island and being with people. But when she was young there. I land was attacked by invaders who wanted to take their land and be in charge the invaders wanted to destroy the power. Giovannini knew that she had to do something to help her people. Switcher rushing to the bottom of your mouth and give your tongue brush to. Dragani need discovered that one of the invaders wanted to switch Cy. His name was George Robinson. And he thought that what the invaders were doing was wrong. He wanted to help the pull our people together, George and Trudeau Anini made a plan and moved the Palau people to another nearby island where they could be safer. Which you're rushing to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and brusher front. Giovanni's bravery helped save a lot of lives today. There are thousands of below people living in and around Tasmania, and the Palau will language is still spoken. Because attributing courage in the face of great danger under work to save her people. She is today's chompers herald. That's it for chompers today. But come back tonight to hear more fearless females from history until then. The one. Chompers is a production of Gimblett media. Chompers is brought to you by crest and oral B spring cleaning is all about freshening things up grownups that might mean finally cleaning out that messy garage. So why not gift that same spring clean feeling your kids crest and oral B have a great selection of dentist recommended toothbrushes for your little sprout and crest toothpastes come and flavors. Your kids love like strawberry. And bubblegum with the enamel protection. You expect bring new meaning to spring cleaning with crest and oral B. Grownups. Learn more at oral B dot com slash kids.

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Heroines Week Truganini (3-7-2021)

Chompers

02:50 min | 5 months ago

Heroines Week Truganini (3-7-2021)

"Get ready for some queen teeth. Because it's time for chompers your morning night to russian ship. Start brushing on the top of your mouth brush. Little circles all the way around each heroines week. And today we're talking about a courageous woman from a place called. Tasmania whose name was. Tregoning is an island near australia. Who's a group of people. There called the paula. The palolo were the first people to live on that island and trick. Anini was one of the palau up. People switch rushing to the other side of the top of your mouth and bush the molars in the way back drug anini was the daughter of a leader and loves living on the island and being with people but when she was young their island was attacked by invaders who wanted to take their land and be in charge. The leaders wanted to destroy the paula. Giannini knew that she had to do something to help her. People switzer rushing to the bottom of your mouth. Your tongue brush to discovered that one of the invaders wanted to switch sides. His name was george robinson and he thought that what the invaders were doing was wrong. He wanted to help the palau people together george and should anini made plan and moved the palau of people to another nearby island where they could be safer which are rushing to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and brush your front juke. Giannini's bravery helped save a lot of life. Today there are thousands of below people living in and around tasmania and the palau will. Language is still spoken because of trumpetings courage in the face of great danger and work to save her people she is. Today's chompers heroin. that's it for choppers today but come back tonight to hear more fearless females from history until then thanks to our sponsor cheerios. Hey grownups with a happy heart powered by honey nut cheerios. You'll have the positivity needed to be good do good and spread good beyond the breakfast table and into the day ahead cheerios. Good starts with happy. Hearts chompers production of gimblett media.

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Cynthia Bailey & Dulce Sloan

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

24:58 min | 1 year ago

Cynthia Bailey & Dulce Sloan

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast edition of. Watch what happens. Live with me. Andy Cohen she's grappling with my gills past. Either Selbe got married. She flew her flag at half mast. It's what's I was Cynthia. Bailey and Dole say Sloan Watchword Evans. I've I'm your host. Andy Cohen Brothers. Ready to dive into all of tonight's. Atlanta drama drama which was richer than a sweet piece of Bach. Lavar verse. Gus worked a Grecian Goddess Ensemble tonight while working overtime to get Kenya Anini on the same page. Please welcome Cynthia. Bailey is always turn it out. Always turn out nate. We appreciate it my next guest the seats as a standup and she's not scared to tell you if you need to take several seats either from the daily show with Trevor Noah weeknights at eleven on comedy central. Say I will say slow. I'm so excited. You're big housewives fan. I love see white. Women acted a fool on television favorite. Oh that makes me happy tonight. When the Atlanta ladies arrived in Athens they were greeted by Greek chorus of four legged friends. Take a look scared of cats out here. Who knows so much pussy agrees with you. I in honor of that moment and Dennis not being around over the bar. Kevin delay goal from animal care centers of New York City with them. Right now is to Challah and these are available for rescue where yes care centers of New York. One hundred tenth between first and second locations in all five boroughs. Okay very good. Let's get started tonight. Hundred Atlanta the women made their way to their Grecian homes and Cynthia made her case for no roommate take a look at these rooms shady component. I just WANNA be exempt from share room. Because I'm really feeling like any privacy. Facetime text playing which we're only town. You might get it on over the phone often really. Yeah Me Neat We. We're still in our prime. I know where we are certain age at this point but yeah we get it in right. Yeah Okay Cynthia was great seeing you. Anini getting along so well. Where does your relationship stand today? As far as I'm concerned we're in a good place. Grab a good respectful place. Now that may have changed since we got another place but I. I'm concerned Cynthia. Endorse air coming in. But before we get to those. Here's what three things I'm obsessed with tonight. I was grappling with mark calling off their relationship so she called on. Candy and Cynthia I support. This was sad watch. What is your say? He's doing something else. Because I see these text messages. One of the women was begging him to keep the sex going rosemary audited yes and I proceeded to let her know if she came anywhere else near my husband. I know where she lives. My publicist cause me you. And Mark are separating. And he's going to make a statement later today. I just hope she realizes that mark may not be the one for her sooner than later. I firsthand that once you commit to those years this time you just can't get back. Felt so bad for her and it was wild to me when he walked out of that charity and said this is the last time you're going to see me so. I mean he clearly that he knew. Yeah I mean apparently so I look. I have been around Kenyan mark when they were in a good place. So it's really hard for me to really see where they are now. You know what I'm saying so I don't know I. My heart goes out to Kenya and I feel like at the end of the day. She she deserves love she she's ever wanted was yeah. Well here's what. When this season began. Cynthia was ready to race down the aisle to become Mrs Mike Hill but she soon in a few seat speed bumps that seemed to slower down. Watch this you've done some things. I've done some things I'm not proud of. You have shown that you will cheap. I want I think we should definitely think about talking to somebody. Okay then this one thing I know about Mike. A good man does a good mean chain now. Multiple Times does a good man hurt someone. Because you're cheater your liar. I've never gone there and I am a little nervous to go with Mike. I cannot imagine what other layers can be peeled off. What was your reaction to this? This is the thing people. Act like a man when someone cheats. They're always a cheater. And that's how you can write somebody off but I don't think that's always yeah. I don't agree with that either and let me just be clear As far as him cheating one of the things that I share show was that you know he cheated in his two marriages. I'd never said to Mike has cheated with every person. He's and not to make excuses. I mean he's got married when he was eighteen. That was the first mayor. Gary didn't well fitting than in Athens. The birthplace of democracy. Cynthia tried to reinstate some civility between Kenya Anini. But here's what tonight. Cynthia's efforts seemed to result in pure anarchy. Watch this spirit. Like median Kenya. Act to stay a little later in fellowship. Okay what's going to sleep with fellow Shipping Brooklyn at? This is when it bothers me because Nina just issues will in the fellowship and talk with you WanNa wind also thank. All of you guys did thank you. I heard that but that was come. Sit Down and talk anywhere pushy. Just wants to know what it is. I was bringing desert to everybody. I will be going this way. Eight Times late was for you. This okay King. Be Clear Canyon. An her basket. Well that didn't work out. No like was plan. But here's the thing I will say in needs defense. She really try to be kind to Kenya right in that moment. She really truly did and candy. And I had had a whole thing with the ladies about like. Please show some compassionate. Can you guys may not be in the best place but this had just happened and she was really before a lot of pain. Yeah so once. We had that talk and everybody kind of agreed to be. Okay you know. Four to kind of go to the left was like come on. Can you can you just like? Let me be nice to frustrate in the seat because it was like Kenya was like no and he was like. Oh and then. Can you turn in any? No you like now. Right time died. Finally when dossier isn't lighting up the stage. She's burning through the Bravo backlog. So I know she came with plenty of hot takes share. Here's what Josie. I'm going to run through some recent Bravo drama. GimMe your thoughts. Kenyan mark separation was. They're split the best a decision in your thoughts on Kenya's submissive Marital alter-ego. Ken What how will you? I've been a situation before. Because if you're an Alpha female of your strong woman with you get with someone else too strong and sometimes you feel like you have to pull back understand what she was coming from. But that was a lot Do you believe that Kenya needed will ever be able to move past their differences and have enough entity friendship. I think part with civil but I don't think it'll be a friendship. Dvd's apology tour. This season how genuine has she been very genuine? When y'all were having your conversation and she was outside trying I was just going to say sorry. Say sorry sorry do so. No not you her. Oh office had in. The NIIMI doesn't want to be on the outside anymore. And that's great. Because she is one very strong character for the franchise but also it's everyone loves her and you don't want to be the person that's on the house reaction to Kenya surprising with the Cookie Lady. Whose side are you on when it comes to those who was disrespectful as hell. Oh Jesus oh the fact that she didn't have across the table. Is God working and dentist? You believe these two will be able to move passer issues and rebuild their family. I think Dennis really wants to and I am very porsches always wanted a family and if this is the man that she has with very happy for her but he needs to work in New Jersey Jennifer said Melissa's too self absorbed another be. A baby agree or disagree. Reaction to the revelation. The Theresa Influence Danielle and pulling Margaret's ponytail shade. But in the defense now the thing is Margaret Info and Beverages Danielle world. That is wonderful name. She used to fight. Who's best for? Dolores Franker David. We all know to answer that question because listen they think pops off. Who's on call Frank? Exactly let's go to emily from Tampa handily. What your question. I don't think my question is for fellow Pisces after Kenya. Are you under the bus with the drama that she has your back as I do consider can your friend? Yes she did throw me. Is the question that day. That's for sure but I feel like you know on the show. The show is a show. And then you know you have to factor in the relationship outside. Show well when you put someone's going to throw you under the bus on the show. We see apologize. Kinda got past that. We may have to revisit it but we will visited at the reunion. It is what it is but you know I I buy my friendships so I you know we get past it. Let's go to abby from Atlanta Your hometown does say what's your question. You'll say hi amy. The air of you back. I don't say possibly. What was your reaction to everything that came out of Super Tuesday and all of these Democratic candidates supporting Biden. Okay listen one. We should have never seen so many candidates. Yeah ever yeah everybody in the dance. The Democratic Party should have sat down like okay. Your Secretary of State University anybody. Yeah it was it was it was. It's King of the Mountain Hill though. No-one is cooperating. No one had a via conversation. I can't say that I still don't know who I would because my private number primaries and come up yet so I still don't know who I'm going to vote for what we're going to vote for our right Cynthia Hannah Jay said. I can't believe you're former assistant. Carlton was on. Love is blind. Did you watch the show wanted if so what did you think of his exit? And you're going to get this question. I did watch the show and Looking on the bright side of what I took from the show. I'm glad he came out and he's like free to be himself and WHO WANTS TO BE I don't agree with the way he handled things obviously Toward the end of his. You know parcel absolutely i. I've been talking to him trying to give him some positive council because he's been going through a really really really really tough time so all right. Let's go to Dana from Philly. Hey Dana what's your question. I my questions for Cynthia. Considering that meany with over two hours late to her own brunch did you. Did she really have the right to be mad at Kenya for only staying for seven minutes Well considering that she was two hours late herself then I would have to say no not really. I think she could have let that one go. It's games that I've everybody since. Try just interrupted. You and Cynthia is a certified snake expert at this point. I want to see how well my guests can separate the two tellers from the Lakers signed. Play truth or wives are animated box of housewives? Spins you will take turns yelling. Stop and listening to a statement you will then guess if it's true or false of you're right you get the point if you're wrong you're opponent. Does I get five points? Wins Cynthia Your First Gel Stung all right? Porsche? William Sayer fact Porsche. One nabbed use the bathroom without my squatty. Potty is it true does she rely on squatty. Potty also She does. I don't even know what that is true. That is true okay. Juicy gets the point alright. You'll say y'all stop okay. I used to work out with Princess Diana in London. True or false through all right. It's Richards I've trained. Aco that when he smells a certain perfume he knows. I'm in the mood to get down true. We'll say you're killing I. Love are okay. I was a teenager. I tried to convince my mom to legally changed my name to Chanel true point for now. Okay Ramona this'll be never use public bathrooms so gross true all right. Listen is her. When I was away I learned worth squirting is I never know? She did what she wanted. His kidneys are okay. Let's go. Let's go to Karen from Virginia Karen. What's your question? My question is percents Do you really think that Kenya wasn't trying to ruin your proposal. I do not feel in my heart of hearts. Kenya is my friend. I that is just what I believe and what I feel in my heart. I felt like it was really a thing to do to tell me in her defense. She said she was excited. I cannot believe that my friend would just purposely want to come and ruin my proposal. It was it was shady boots. I'll say that because it didn't seem candy. Gave our nut for information to let her know what time it was and I feel like she got. Maybe she got over excited for you right and that could have been with the campaign. Is that campaign. She's a shade The March v said. How many red flags do you need before you cancel the engagement? Jesus listen rebuked that Mike and I are of a certain age. Let's be clear so we both have lived lived. We've lived our lives so I don't feel like the fact that he chose to be transparent and what he's done with his life a red flag if anything. The Red Flag to me is being with someone who is secretive. Salinas said Dole. Say What do you think about Joe? Gorka doing stand up one. I Love Joke Orcas. Yeah every time I watch the sorry go please. Jesus send me a man that loved me like your Loves MELISSA STAND UP STAND OKAY? Tell jokes order. You have a rooftop competition out all right today and since I'm joined by a professional fake journalist. I thought I'd let her deliver the news. Dual say what's Your Mazal from the Bras Bravo sphere. Oh my Masel is joke work. Oh it is even when he did what Melissa work. He's still built her an entire boutique. He was like to do this but I will be. Happy gets it. And you're Jack Hall Mark Daley Okay Man on fire awful human being okay like he's not not it's just like yes candy. I mean yes. Kenya's not been nice to people but there is such a way that he talks to her and there's such you can just watch them go. Oh this man doesn't love this. You got a pretty baby out of somebody. That's what you did. Because it doesn't seem like he loves her and he talks to her so wild and it seems like she's just like okay just to keep my family together. I'm knuckle check this man. Chuck him a check list. Does as Kevin Sutter's your you know you learn something new. 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Park Charity Event and Why do you think mark didn't say hi to you Mike When he walked into the event Oh okay all right marlow and Kenya. Well when Marlowe actually came in the table. That Kenya director was really right beside us. We all couldn't sit at the same table. So that's why when I came out and said you'll be able to touch you like right there. That's why I went after her so she was never in the back of the room. She was at the table beside us. I don't know if that was cleared and editing. But that's what happened okay As far as mark. Not Say hello to you guys when you came in. Well no mark did not say hello when he came into the event and that was kind of disheartening because Mike is like really like professional. He's very big on preparation. He's like harassing me. Not BEING ON TIME. You know this is important. I don't want to support mar one. Make sure I'm ready. I want to get the lane. I'm like he's like going crazy. So bad there and we're early and when mark finally walks in of course we're like thinking he's GonNa come in and be like. Hey you know what are because he has a whole walk. The whole run a show. Yeah anyway that didn't happen so I thought well that wasn't right like we're we're here trying to support what you're doing. Yes you know what I'm saying so I thought that was just because it looked like it was hosting the event yet. Look like Mike was really kind of running out what he was he was but he didn't have all the information that he needed. He wanted to be you know like I said he's preparation. He wanted to talk about mark for something. Like what are we doing? How's the rundown he would go? We got it. It's fine we got it for my for. Mike wants details. He wants to do a good job. Should have details. He's one and all show. I'd open my Martin to Karen from Virginia Question. Hey Karen Karen Oh actually. It's Amanda from Tennessee. Hey Amanda which question. Hey I love you. You're the queen of Atlanta thank. You don't say it too loud. Please say Darlan real housewives. What would your tag on a? What would your tagline the house. So don't start nothing in the trailer where I pay rent. Let's go to Liz from Walla Walla Washington Liz which my my my questions for dual say Excluding DONALD TRUMP. Which politician are you most thankful for because of how much mature material they provide the daily show? Who would you over the daily show not me? Yeah Yeah what the most material for the daily show excluding Donald Trump I think biden gives us a good amount. Because he's having this kind of these little brown out like toaster right now. He's got to forget where he is where he's at shot. Joe Biden for protecting him and Simone Sanders. Because it's nice to see women in action but yeah I think Biden's been given us. Some good good treats was just a man named Chris was interviewing use. Of course you call them up. Because that's how nicknamed I wanNA thank every morning? Everybody Victor Rate Rusty. You're don't see whose mom approaching me at all until got all my God. She's granting above visual spam elite. There's no stopping her. I don't wish mine'd raisch most my close friend and obviously I have to tell her what Lopa has said because she's out here to sabotage the relationship. She's very cocky and thinks she can get away with murder.

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Heroines Week Truganini (3-8-2020)

Chompers

02:32 min | 1 year ago

Heroines Week Truganini (3-8-2020)

"Get ready for some queen teeth. Because it's time for Chompers your morning and night toothbrush. Ship start brushing on the top of your mouth and brush little circles all the way around each heroine's week and today we're talking about a courageous woman from a place called. Tasmania whose name was. Tregoning is an island near Australia. Who's a group of people? There called the Paula. The PALOLO were the first people to live on that island and trick. Anini was one of the Palau up. People switch rushing to the other side of the top of your mouth and Bush the molars in the way back drug. Anini was the daughter of a leader and loves living on the island and being with people but when she was young there island was attacked by invaders who wanted to take their land and be in charge. The leaders wanted to destroy the Paula Chug. Anini knew that she had to do something to help her. People Switzer rushing to the bottom of your mouth. Your tongue brush to discovered that one of the invaders wanted to switch sides. His name was George Robinson and he thought that what the invaders were doing was wrong. He wanted to help the Palau people together George and should Anini made plan and moved the Palau of people to another nearby island where they could be safer which are rushing to the other side of the bottom of your mouth and brush your front teeth Juke. Johnny's bravery helped save a lot of life today. There are thousands of allow people living in and around Tasmania and the Palau. Eleven is still spoken because of trumpeting his courage in the face of great danger and work to save her people. She is. Today's Chompers Herald. That's it for choppers today but come back tonight to hear more fearless females from history until then the jumpers is a production of Gimblett media.

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#45 Accelerating Growth Through Crowdfunding with Zach Smith...

Stories Behind the Grind

50:19 min | 2 years ago

#45 Accelerating Growth Through Crowdfunding with Zach Smith...

"On this episode of stories behind me bride, listen to my conversation, but Zack's men co founder and a funded today. We discuss how funded today raised over two hundred fifty million dollars US in funds for over two and a half thousand businesses while letting goes one of the best decisions ever made, and how to retain company culture across digital Whipple's amongst much much more money is adding buffalo in he will find business strategies tips and tactics that he can incorporate not Anini rent venture. But you'll lie to help you thought and strategically grow scaling up to impact you having the slow listen as I'd hoped credits innovators in game changes, and what it takes to go to an impactful business uncoupling insects strategies in tips to help you increase profitability and developed twelve thirteen culture the stories behind the grind PO costs is that thanks so much for coming on the stories behind the Garonne costs. It's great to have you on. Thanks so much for Adamy excited to be here. Wonderful. Zac, you'll the co-founder founded today the labs crowdfunding cut foam in the world. Tell me what would the steps that lead? You to the launch refunded today want the long three or the short story on both belong story. So what led up to it in in? How you from you know, one person to wait you out today. Okay. Yeah. So I've never had a real job my entire life. I've always kind of been the serial entrepreneur type. And so I came home from a two year service mission in Toronto Canada, where I learned to speak Mandarin Chinese of all languages and a person that I've known my whole life was very very successful in the two years that had lapsed. It was kind of the internet was taking off. There was a lot of opportunity, and he basically found a way to skill certain industries, this particular industry was investments in foreign currency exchange. And in the two years, I was gone. He had made a ton of money, and he and I were kind of the same level before I left. So I said can I come over and chat with you? Can I help you can I see what you're doing? He's sure I came over to his mansion, and he kind of had the typical life that you kind of picture, you know. Fancy cars amazing house. And so it led me on as of pretty young twenty something like this is interesting school. But is wasn't fake. It was really actually making money was doing all these different things. And he was leveraging the power of the internet and one day lead the to a week a month a year and about a year into this. He said, hey, let's let's try to do some stuff together. I like you. You're a good partner. And so we formed a partnership, and we basically followed a launch strategy similar just how apple launches a product. We launched a an investment product for trading automating currency trading in different things and long story short. We made about a million dollars in one day through the power of a launch strategy and holding three or four webinars for we have, you know, a thousand people on each webinar converted about eight percent. And so that strategy was so effective that we built the whole business out of it and made quite a bit of money. I didn't eventually love what we were doing though it again, I'm not necessarily a technical person. I didn't like staring at charts all day it. It's. A difficult business. It's a lot of pressure and my partner. So okay. Well, he loved it because he'd been doing it before me is that I'll buy you out. So he bought me out, and I didn't want to go and get a job, and I already you had quite a bit of money now because of that successful exit, and I decided to create an online consulting firm, and the online consulting firm, basically help people start doing business but start doing business on the internet. So they can leverage the power of skill. And as everybody knows the internet's the best possible way to run a business nowadays because you can just do so much more with so much little capital in so much little personal capital as well. In terms of people in in those who help you because it's just amazing, and so I- levers, my story, I leverage my success from the past campaign and not attracted a lot of people who wanted to work with me. Well, a year of this goes on and we run into a client who had invented something. And we hadn't really worked with inventors as much will this particular couple. They were probably there early sixties they had invented a running wallet. And this running wallet was. Very very interesting. It was mainly for marathoners in long distance runners, and they would say, hey, we want to bring this thing to life, but I've just got a sewing machine, and I've sold a couple of these, and I invented this because it helps me my keys credit cards, wallet, etc. Without Belsey and Chafee. And all of a sudden, I thought, oh, that's cool as they've invented a product actually solve a problem for themselves. But they're like, we don't have any money and my practice was built on hourly retainers and different things. Like that kind of to follow the degree that I had an accounting. I just kind of build like an attorney or an accountant and so long story short. They said have you heard of this thing called crowdfunding, and I hadn't they said have you heard this thing called Kickstarter? It's a platform where you can raise money for new ideas and people basically preorder your idea, and if you get enough money, then you take the money, and then you give them what they preorder. And if you don't and it just fells wanna try it. I was in a good finish position. I said sure, let's try it. And so we built a video we designed to page he found people who could create their product for them in mass. S, and we launched and in thirty days thirty five days, we raise them one hundred fifteen thousand dollars for this little running wallet from this sixty year old couple who'd nobody ever heard of and suddenly everybody's out of this crazy wall, just raise one hundred fifteen thousand bucks and people started beaten down our doors, and I just went back to what I was doing my business partner who I brought onto the latter. Half of that campaign kept doing what he was doing with political fundraising and paid media marketing different things like that he'd worked on a lot of presidential campaigns in different senators and congressmen. And unfortunately, there's so many people being about to our door that we tried at other one and we raised three hundred twenty five thousand dollars for that one. And then we did another one and eventually, of course, word of mouth spread. And everybody said if you want to raise money on Kickstarter, you gotta hire these guys who are these guys will is name Zach we have a name, and we'd already raised a million bucks. And so one day I wake up my business partner has a website called funded dot today. And I said what's this about actually, I wouldn't even a business partner? We were just working as consultants or whatnot. And so we didn't we didn't have a business and we've raised over million dollars now, and suddenly we have all of this traffic, but they're just this is word of mouth, call this guy fair this guy out kind of thing. You know, they're the ones doing it felt like magic at the time to people who hires because they see these spikes at the end of their campaign they'd hires with five days left, and we'd raise them one hundred thousand dollars. How do they do it? Well, it was because we replying all of these strategies and tactics and Thomas solid potential. He's my business partner. And he said, great, let's go for I wake up. I see the website kind of surprises me funded out today. We use today. Why aren't we going dot com or whatever, you know? But it kind of stuck he's like because we get your project funded today. Sometimes we get your project funded in a few hours. So I said, okay. Well, I mean, it's it's explanatory it sticks and dot coms were kind of not as cool anymore. You know, you could you gonna have any sort of extension into your demand, and we went with and that was the story of funded today. We have now worked with I think about three thousand campaigns. We're closing in on two hundred fifty million dollars raised and it's just been a really good journey. Now, we've got. Over fifty people working for us as a lot of people might company that do everything that I used to do and everything that Thomas used to do better than we could ever do. And it's been a real good story. And we've been able to help out a lot of people bring a lot of amazing Titus till I it's amazing the amount of logic impact to demand businesses. You've impacted and the will changing as part of the the funded. So that platform, what challenges did you have come? Obviously you've had really sounds astronomical guards that can be quite hard for Santa's. If you know, you're exactly right. We made being five hundred disliked year. We were the third fastest growing marketing advertising agency in the world and number twenty seven overall for not in the world in the United States privately held companies Inc. Five hundred list that they do every year and it's based on revenue growth. So. Yeah. I mean, the growth potential was nuts. And I think the hardest thing that I had to learn to do was to let go I like to control everything I thought it was very good at doing what I was doing. And nobody could do a better than me. And when you hire your first person, it's painful, it's scary. No, this person has to do all this stuff that I do. And then your second person and your third person may you when you get to your fifth or sixth person where that's a lot of the things you were doing it gets easier to get those. I corps people into do all the stuff that you were doing entrusted. They're gonna do it as good as you. And ultimately better is hard to do less. You. You're like, well, I'm giving up income. I'm giving up money. I'm having to pay these people to do this. But what you don't understand is that by doing that? You are now leveraging your time your now leveraging what you were doing so that you can do more. And so that they could do more eventually because they're just specializing on that one thing you do they get better than you out it as well. So I think I could do it all over again, I would have grown quicker. I would've let go quicker, I would've trusted people more. I think that's probably the biggest thing I've learned with SCO. And again now that we're at fifty plus people. It's like I talked to companies all the time because we don't just do crowdfunding we do Amazon marketing, we do ecommerce marketing, we work with bigger companies. Now, we work with equity crowdfunding to do some of the creative and digital media behind there. And these guys have millions of dollars of budget, and they've got six hundred people a thousand people ten thousand people I think one of our clients has and it's like I'm sitting here with fifty. Plus, I thought I had some big thing. Right. And I'm just a splash in the water for some of these guys that were working with. And it's like, how do you get to that next level? And again, I'm faced with something. I've never dealt with before and onto the next frontier. And it's been a learning opportunity to see what we can do to grow bigger. And then the question also is how much bigger do you wanna go? What's what's enough? When are you happy with what you have? And there's a saying if you're not growing your dying. But I don't necessarily know if that's true if you can maintain market share, and if you can live a good life, and if you've got everything taken care of there's something to be said for maybe that's good enough. Maybe everybody doesn't need to become an apple. So that's been the last couple of years of my life trying to determine what exactly I want with everything that I've created everybody in my team has helped to create how would be manage to from from a cultural point of view. Having fifty stuff to be challenging at times to manage a team of fifty. However, you made sure that on today has a good company culture. We have a very unique business model were similar to the company buffer, which is like a social media syndication type company not in that not because of that's what we do. But our entire workforce is remote and digital base. So people can work whenever they want. However, they want whatever they want to do so long as they get the work done. And we get good results, and that is becoming more and more mainstream, but it was not mainstream five. Years ago. It was not nearly as exciting. And so we were able to attract a lot of people with that type of Mongol because who doesn't want to wake up and work in their underwear occasionally. I think a lot of people were attracted to that idea. But the other thing we found is a lot of people actually work a lot more when they get their own hours. And when when they get to work, whatever they want because they're not necessarily set to the here's what you do every day. They're more allowed to experiment and get creative and testing out and try things. And so I mean last night, I think I was on to two a m dome or something, you know. And why would I normally do that? But I enjoy it. And that's because maybe from two in the afternoon to five I was at the gym or reading a book or something. So the hours are weird and they're different in their strange. We have clients all over the world. So I guess one of our culture components is we are the experts. We are the crowd funding experts. We are the ecommerce digital experts is one of our core values and everybody in their company prides theirselves in being able to understand what needs to happen to make a job. Well, done the other thing that probably is probably important for our culture is the fact that we have a lot of different divisions. But we all worked together, very cohesively. So. So we might make a video we might design the marketing and the ad coffee. New branding, and then are paid media team will work in harmony with our creative division to bring their creative vision to life as it relates to the digital media side of things, and I don't think you see that a lot of times you have a creative agency. And then you have a marketing agency, and then you have a branding agency. But we've been able to kind of capture encapsulate all of those things in house, those really critical, and I think communication such a big issue, especially organizations, and especially when you start to outsource woke up -solutely. Like, you said if you don't have that communication between between divisions than the end anybody wanting. Oh, yeah. No, you're absolutely right. And a note on communication if anybody is trying to create a digital agency or a digital Mahler remote based business or whatever else you wanna call it. There's a great book by Jason fried Jason freed Friday for how you pronounce it. But it's called rework. So really good really good book, and he's actually written a couple more as well. He's the one who started basecamp, she's a really very lucrative Sascha. But I don't think they took. Outside funding, but you have to communicate when you're in an office every single day. You have a lot of opportunities to talk to people and chat and chair and engage. If you don't actively make sure that what you are writing and getting on Skype calls your phone calls or whatever else you're doing with your clients in which your people you can fall out of touch and Phil very removed very quickly. And I say that's probably the biggest downside of not having the water cooler so to speak of traditional workforce's. Do you have stuff online stuff functions? Wave runs when it comes together to stories to replicate the terrific. Yeah. That was one thing we did to combat things so once per quarter, we have a pretty big company activity and then once or twice per month. We have company luncheons where everybody can get together. Now because we had people working all over the world for a while that was difficult. So we're primarily in Utah. Now, I'd say maybe sixty seventy percent of our workforce is out of the state of Utah. And we did that not because we necessarily think Utah is the best place to get workers load is a great place. It's. Kind of known a silicon slopes affectionately now because of just how many tech companies and how many unicorns exist here in the state. But we we've done that. Because now we have the luxury of working remote. But then we can have on sites luncheons quarterly activities parties as often as we want as well and get most of our people there. And so I think I'll continue to do that even though I will still allow the digital remote culture to coexist with that vision. Yeah. I love that sort of using older the new owed coming together because you can't get rid of it as much as digital nomad. Sounds amazing. There's a lot of things that aren't great about it. And we found that the Prussians at ram dealing with anxiety problems suicide pro, you know, what I mean, like, it's amazing all the things that you think you're doing when you're a businessman and all the things you actually deal with. I mean as an entrepreneur, you're a counselor, a therapist, and again, you don't wanna be these things you definitely tell them to seek professional L. But it just happens naturally when you're a CEO when you start your business, if you grow to the level that we've grown to all the problems, you never even thought, you know, with an entrepreneur kind of deals with them all I actually say sometimes it's like and again, I don't say the sack religiously. But it's it's sometimes if you believe in religion, it's like what a God must have to deal with in some sense. It's the most pure form of acting as a God would act with here on our you've got all the note on the challenges, but every every clients challenge in every stops challenge. And you're the one that's at the top see. You're the one who has to deal with it all and the perspectives are so different. Sometimes someone will say something to you and someone will say the exact opposite. And they both think they're entirely, correct. And when you share what the other person said with the other person, they just sit there, and they're like, oh, wow. I never thought that. And I'm like, this is what I deal with every day. It's crazy. And sometimes the right decision is the hard decision and sometimes they're both wrong. And sometimes they're both right. Last night that issue that I was dealing with both people were exactly right in every single way. And so I have to be the judge in mediator to to determine what needs to be done, and it's very difficult because no matter what you decide someone's going to be happy. You can't just cut the baby enough. You can't become compromised as much as you want to please everybody come back down. You can't plays everyone as much as you want to. That's that's such a good. Takeaway me, if you're going to a business sometimes just realize if fifty percent of people love you and fifty percent of people hate you. You probably are doing. Okay. I think you need to start be worried when it's seventy thirty or sixty forty or eighty twenty. It's kind of like all it takes in that sense where it's very polarizing. And it's also like politics for one day, you'll be loved and another day. It'll be hated in the next day, you'll be login you'll be hated. And it just kind of it just kind of goes with the territory, and it's tough. If you're a person who wants to be loved and wants to be lights, and I think that's most people. But if you really want to become an entrepreneur, I think you have to have really thick skin. And you have to you have to be nice if people even when they're not nice to you. And that's difficult to do. And it's easy to react emotionally because if you own it, you can say, whatever you want, you can do whatever you want. Yes. There's consequences. But you kind of get to make the final say on everything and there's just so much nuance to how to do it. Right. And I'm not even saying I'd S's -sarily do it right there. It's just such a I don't know I call it holistic harmonization where you're trying to create harmony among all the different things that you're doing. So that they all are spinning going at the same time because if any one of them stops, then you have problems you can do with the emotional side of things in terms of in the ups and downs. I'm not as good as others. My business partner is really good at saying. I'm I'm jumping off at five every day. There's always more work to be done. And if I worked till five thirty that's not going to necessarily make a difference in the grand scheme of things tonight. So I'm done at five I worked from this to this every day. And he's been better than me at that where he just sets aside time to relax into de-stress. And I think that would be one bit of advice. I give there's always going to be more to be done. There's always going to be more things that you could be doing. You gotta make sure you're doing the most important things. But if you want to have your emotional health, right? You've got to be willing to step away. You gotta be willing to take a break. And honestly, sometimes the best things have happened for my company when I have taken a break, the longest break, I took was like sixty days last year when I went on a trip to Mount Everest. And we hiked we visited India and a lot of other countries. That's a long time to be away sixty days. I didn't really for at least thirty those days. I was not even in contact because pretty hard to have communication when you're at nineteen thousand feet, and it was really good because there's nothing I could do. So they had to learn to. Be entrepreneurial themselves. They had to fix problems that I would have had to fix before in that might have been the next step required to step away to allow yourself to experience the true joy that comes from entrepreneurship when it successful. And that's freedom at first as an entrepreneur. You're the only person in the world who will work eighty hours. You don't have to work forty for somebody else. And that's great do that for a year or two or our long it takes. But ultimately, if you're working that long, you might unless you're making crazy money or something you needed probably consider if that's good for you. And so being able to step away helps tremendously with your emotional health because you learn what it's like when other people have full control of the baby that you once created and that was very powerful for me. Now, I don't feel worried at all if I'm gonna day or two to do things because I know people are going to step in and make the right decision because I've empowered them to do. So, but you don't get that experience in that luxury until you actually, take that leap of faith and make it happen. And a lot of entrepreneurs will never do that. Because they're too afraid or they just don't have the opportunity you it comes back down to what you were saying before about letting control when you when you are one person when you, you know, you'll Nick. Person. And then comes back down to the critical word. You said was empowering empowerment empowering, you'll you'll stop to fill the gap to fill the void that you leave if you away, and you know, it's great a lot of people funded today. I hear this a lot in my interviews with with our managers, particularly I feel like I own this company. I felt like it's part of me. I love when they say that doesn't make me mad that they think they own my company it chose that. They believe in it that they fill that power. And that's exactly what I want. I would love for even my lowest staff member the person I hired yesterday to feel like they own a piece of funded today. Because ultimately, isn't that what you want, and you can make work fun and people feel like what I have created is what they have created. And everybody's in this journey together to make something greater than we ever thought. It could be. Yeah. To have a have a hell business in alignment where every stuff, you know, Nour's overlaid. So fails the contributing to something Badran, Greta it, Trump's either live at Trump's. Using the stick kennison's unite putting all these performance metrics, forcing people to work for you. Because you'll pay them. It's such a impoundment is such a brilliant. So that I guess Gulf all is Asians impoundment of stuff. It really is. I never thought of it that way. But I think you've put it. Exactly, right. Maybe your long term goal for starting new businesses to have other people take ownership of what you created and be happy with that yet. It depends depends. What Unum would you vision and goals on depends? How you define success? But let's differently. You know, another Gulf some oh, absolutely Zach. You've obviously helped a lot of startups and businesses takeoff through crowdfunding other characteristics, trite of companies that you see that do really. Well. Yeah. If you want to have a successful crowd funding campaign, and I have I have a podcast actually as well. If anybody would want to listen to the episodes. I'm sure Aiden will included a link in the show notes as we go through every single step along. The way of how to be successful the first probably six, maybe seven episodes will walk you through that. But if I had to just distill it into a sensor to it's this ubiquity. Plus tech us compelling story equals greatest chance for success. So it's break it down from the top ubiquity. What does that mean that just means how wide how deep can your market go? Easiest way to think about it. Let's talk about a towel. There was this towel called own some own sin. Is this towel? That was invented. By. This guy who spent some time in Japan at the bath houses Olsen is. I think the Japanese word for Japanese bath house, everybody best everybody showers, and so it's BIC witness union. You've got a really big market people needing a towel. They need a Taliban. Let's go to the next part techie or innovative. How can a towel be tech your innovative? Well, this guy integrated bamboo, silver, and a waffle we've to tell to make it have that innovated edge. So it wouldn't develop mold do so it wouldn't smell. So it would. Very quickly. So it would wick away very nice. But then it was soft as well. So it had that luxurious type fill. And then finally compelling story already told you that what happened the guy spent some time in Japanese bath house, and like the idea of what he saw there called the towel Olsen. And so you've got the story. You've got the ubiquity you've got the techie innovative element. And that towel raised a million dollars. And I can break down with you from every single campaign we've ever worked on whether it was the back travel jacket, the six most funded campaign history, he took a travel jacket, and he created twenty plus different features within the jagged. So it's got gloves. It's got a hoodie. It's got a neck pillow and inflatable neck pillow. It's got a thing to cover your eyes. So you can sleep at night on a flight or on a train or wherever you're going. It has a stylus it has a pen. So you can fill out a passport. And again, I list all these different features. He took a jacket a ubiquitous item. Everybody probably wears a jacket at one point in their lives. And then he made it techie and then histoy. Ori-? Of course was now traveling doesn't have to suck bring this jacket. And this is all you need it even had a pocket to carry your ipad and a cozy for a drink. If you needed to carry your drink with you. So and you can do this with every successful campaign on Kickstarter or indigo go for crowdfunding and not just for crowdfunding. But this applies to anything. I would say that's the best chance for success is following that formula. I love how you distill down to three. So to coal components. Can you can you delve a day pouring to have business on his stock to build their own compelling story? Yeah. I think the easiest way for somebody who is entrepreneurial or or wants to be entrepreneurial is to ask yourself. What problems am I facing? And you might go. I have a problem. So you need to start looking at things a little bit more closely. Everything is a problem me talking to you on zoom for this podcast is a potential problem. What are the difficulties with this particular system that we are using think about the ask yourself that with everything you're doing what I'm on Facebook? What do I not like about face? But what do I wish it had? What do I wish was different what I'm traveling in my car? What would make my life easier? What would do here? The biggest way to become an entrepreneur is to solve a problem that makes your life easier because if you make your life easier chances are you're gonna make a lot of other people's lives easier because as much as we think, we're different. We're very much the same. And that's what's so great about when you solve a problem for yourself. You're probably solving a problem for thousands of people and sometimes millions of people and solving problems already has the story in late because you solve the problem in your own life. So there's the story you vote the back story of how you got to that problem. He's what how you have a candidate. How in just solve the problem? And then he fought how the loss little off the problem solved. It's the hero's journey. It is it is anyone doesn't know what the hero's journey is a hot. I recommend looking into it. Yeah. Absolutely. There's a lot of good books who's been a big influence for you during your life oil. I think of credits well of my different business mentors along the way my first business partner, even though he eventually bought me out of the company. It was a good decision because it allowed all of this to happen which ended up being ten twenty thirty times bigger than even that was. And so he opened my eyes to what could actually be possible for somebody who I mean, I don't come for money. My dad is a schoolteacher, and my mom really never worked just raised six kids. And so every single dollar I've made I can keep track of I remember how I made my first dollar, and my story is one where really anybody could do. It's not like I had any sort of advantages. I mean, yes, I had the internet. Yes. I I wasn't destitute on the streets. But my advantage were not like a lot of people who go to the best colleges and have unlimited time at home. I mean, I had to work I had to I had to co and do construction with my dad and the summer so that we can make ends meet and again, give credit to my family for teaching me a work ethic. If credit to the hard work and drive that they helped me to develop to realize that I could become even more successful than they were. Because of the bats that they pay for me. So I think those are people that I would look to. And then, of course, everybody at my company because of what they've done in their trust that they've given me in the trust that I've given to them we've been able to create something great. Haven't really lost many people throughout the years, which I think has been really cool a lot of companies have turnover. I still have some of the very first people that ever worked for me and my company, and that's very rare. A lot of times you lose all those people after you reach a level of success because the people who got you where you are don't necessarily get you where you're going or the vision changed or they come disatisfied that wasn't the case of funded today. We only lost a couple, and I think that's a testament to our culture, and the brand that we've created in the good life that we've had people my company who are building houses are built houses or have the cars that they dreamed of. And they say this is the car that funded today bought this is the house that funded today. Bill, I love those stories right because that's a legacy that's going to carry on well after I'm gone, and well after people don't even know what funded today is anymore or will after funded today morphs into something that it isn't even at right now to become part of the narrative of just off any of your clients, and everyone ever knew sort of impact is a huge testament to fund it today when you start to become part of someone's narrative, some of the, you know. One of the pinnacles, really. Tell you develop and leave a legacy. Absolutely. Where did you where did you sort of interest in small business, startups and entrepreneurship stemmed from? And that's a good question. I don't think I've ever been asked that. But if I had to just think off the top of my head I'd probably say from my dad, my dad created a construction company that he did in the summers when he wasn't teaching. And I saw what in fact that business makes more money than teaching in two or three months. And I always said dad, why don't we just do this twelve months a year, right? Like small businesses for so great. And I like small businesses to because they're agile and they're lean. And that's why I say debate between how big do I actually want to try to make London today because the bigger we've gotten the more bureaucratic? It has become even now I can't make decision to have things change tomorrow. I used to be able to do that. And you complain about bureaucracy at companies like Google or Facebook, and how you can't eat. I mean, you can't even talk to somebody Google on the phone. They're so big. And it's like how how is it possible? But then you think logistically, well, if they allowed people to talk that'd be two billion potential phone calls. They would have to account for and that's why they don't do that. And that's why they have their systems and their channels. So I've learned more about bureaucracy in respect bureaucracy at the or chin five hundred level in some of these other different companies that we've worked with I understand why you have to create governments essentially when you get bigger. But then for me, it's like I'm an entrepreneur I like small business. How big do I wanna get before? I completely lose touch with everything there once was and so I think it's a constant battle. And you have to ask yourself that question when you get to a point where you have the luxury of determining do I wanna stay here. Do I wanna go here where do I ultimately want to be? And I think the earlier you ask yourself that question the easier. It is to make the decision when that time comes you, definitely if you know what you're going, and you had that conversation other own you can get a lot of people don't do that. They want the fancy car. They want the house. They want the mansion, but they didn't necessarily think about what their life would be like differently when they got there. And so they're they're hollow their whole ho after because there's not anything left to. Necessarily think about because they've achieved at all. I wrote something a couple days ago. Let me see if I can find it. Yeah. There's something profound that comes from the fulfillment of a job. Well done. Richard Watson his classic book. Fables a fortune. What rich people have that? You don't want rights when we no longer need to work hard to meet our needs the opportunity for Chievo is diminished. We fell to set and renew Gul's things come to easily. We often lose our focus satisfaction and contentment. Are it is to be chased the very act of reaching them can cause the beginning of personal stagnation, and I really resonated with the very act of reaching him can cause the beginning of personal stagnation when you've achieved everything you've ever thought you want to in life, suddenly depression can sit in and that's why I think you see a lot of rich people doing everything they can to create experiences and things nobody else is doing because they're like what else is there. They got everything they ever thought they wanted them. They didn't know what to do once they got there. And so it's so important to visualize and plan what your life is going to. Look like, so when you're there, you're not board. So you don't have that stagnation. And so you keep the TV and doing more things. And so you never lose that vision in that hope that comes with the treatment, the super powerful often encourage listening to revisit that define what you're in the look like in five years, whatever Tom from you choose, and then continually up that what that looks like as you go along clue change. I agree. And these are things I didn't do as well along the way. And so I'm going back and backtracking and trying to self correct? So I think it's good advice for anybody. Who's not quite where you want to be at the practice these things. Now, they might seem superfluous or they might seem like, oh, let me make some money for sure let me do that. But making money stuff happens pretty quickly seven years ago. I didn't have millions of dollars. So it can happen. Very fast year. Seventies is such a short period of time as well. It is I immigrants came thinks. How do you start focused and driven has developed over the last couple of years as as fun to today's? I always have had a little bit of that. You know, you go back to psychology and the nature nurture debate. How much was nature. How much was nurture? I definitely had the nature to always win. I hate to lose. And losing even second place for me if I play soccer game and ice core. Five goals? But we lose five to six I'm mad even though I scored five. Rick and goals, which would be amazing normally and a mad because we lost. And I think that's a nature thing. But I also think it's a nurture thing because everybody in my family's pretty competitive, and we were taught to win we were taught to do our very best. And if we do our very best we're not just going to be satisfied, but we're going to win because when you do your best most people just simply don't work as hard as you literally one of the simplest things I've learned in life. If you could take anything away from my story, it's to just work hard. If you work hard, you were probably going to beat out almost everybody. But airy took or somebody who who literally is probably working too hard, by frankly, you know, that's what he wants to do most people just don't work that hard. And if you work hard, you're you're going to win for me, the motivation was there because I had this vision of I I set goals and achieved every one of those goals, and they were lofty goals that in fact, the very last one I had it's funny. I did a face. Book post on this. If anybody ever follows me on Facebook. But the last goal I had was and it was to make the Inc. Five hundred list. And I wrote that I think five years ago or something and I finally did in two thousand eighteen I was one of the goals. I had for my company that was the last one I had to check off my list, and I had I have all kinds of goals because again holistic harmonization, creating that harmony in all aspects of your life, not just business not just moneywise, but personal financial social emotional intellectually. And then fun as well. Like, what's your what's your hobbies? What are the things that you're doing that at bring you Joey outside of work? If if work brings you joy, great, which probably should find something else that you love. And for me. It's playing indoor soccer. It's playing basketball. It's weightlifting. And it's reading books and listening to podcasts and just interacting with people who are like minded or people who can motivate me and inspire me or Ben places that I've never been before. So that I can continue to set my heights higher. I used to think I set lofty goals, but I already achieved them on thirty. Eighty one. So my goals, obviously, we're not lofty enough, right? I think a lot of times we can say goals way bigger than we ever thought. And you got to set the little goals along the way. So you can have that achievements. You can check them off. Because there's something that happens. When you check a goal off it creates momentum and in order to be motivated. I don't believe in motivation. I believe in understanding your y and understanding your who and your why is why are you doing this while I'm doing this to get rich? Well, that's not it while I'm doing this. Because if I'm rich I'll be able to spend time with my family and anytime my daughter has a concert. I'll be able to go there at the drop of a hat or anytime. My son has a basketball game or any time. I want to go to a concert anytime. I just wanna get on a plane and goes from her I can go. Okay. That's a better. Why? And you got your who in there too. I'm doing it for my family now that will mean something, and I want to get rich. I want the fancy car I want the house and motivation comes when you do that for every single one of your goals, and you ask yourself, what's my wife who am I doing this for and then when you wake up and go to the gym, it's not like why the heck am I going to the gym? My lifting my doing this on doing this because I don't want to get heart disease. I want to live a long healthy life. So that when I'm seventy I can still go ski down amount now when you're in the gym and you're struggling because it sucks you're gonna still push through because it means something to you. It comes down to that internal internal desires, and maids is I agree completely at some. When someone says I'm just waiting for the money up in. Now, I've tried to start a couple of businesses that when I was at high school and university that would just for the money, and they they didn't last long at all because it takes a while Kentucky wall to make money, and you lose motivation. And you know, you you want to go to a certain point, I really resonate with Dobie. And but David understanding why you do what you do. And that's that helped me get through in mind too. I didn't get rich quick. I mean seven years is quick. So I did get rich quick. And that sense. But for years, I made no money in that first business. I started when I got when I got back from Toronto. I don't think I made more than thirty thousand dollars for two years. So. That's not rich by anybody standard. But then a million dollars in one day. Right. You have to have that vision. And have that patience? And yes, it does come quick. But it doesn't come as quick as you might think. Comes back down athlete having patients, and you could have imagined if he gave out pasta. Oh. Oh, yeah. For sure my family. What are you doing university? Go back to college. What are you doing your valedictorian? You why why are you not going to law school? Why are we doing this? And even I was like, what am I doing this is? But I saw that essential. And I believed, and I knew that this would work because I saw I saw the I saw thirty thousand dollars. We made thirty grand if we just do this ten times bigger that's three hundred grand. And if we do it twenty times bigger that six hundred grand, and I know how to duplicate that. Right. And I counted those little wins along the way, and I saw the forest through the trees back down and having that momentum and off you went. I'm really curious. What made you do accounting at university. That's a good question. Yeah. So I actually switched my degree quite a few times. I started off in political science because that was kind of the traditional degree of an attorney. And I was thinking I would go on to law school, and I was actually three or four classes away from having a degree there. And I switched because business. It was starting to take off. I was starting businesses while I was in college. And I thought I don't wanna go to law school at that's gonna be a lot of work and time and lawyers. I don't know Autodesk work. I'm not necessarily that type of person. And so I started looking around, and there was a degree in my university called technical cells, which was interesting because I loved people, and I love cells, and I love social psychology behavioral psychology, all that kind of stuff and persuasion, and I started taking a ton of causes down. And almost switch my major, and I got within like two classes of getting a degree in that so up to hundreds of credits. And I thought that's a stupid degree, though, not knocking anybody who has that one. But you don't get a degree in sales. What goods echina- do for you? And at that point somebody. Said well, you should look into business when I said, okay, we'll any and it's crazy. I think of this now because I was an entrepreneur my whole life. But I didn't actually no I was an entrepreneur. Like, I'd go and sell snow cones Doro during a radio fire wagon. I've said snow cones up at soccer tournaments and sell two hundred bucks. A snow cones in two hours. When I was a kid, that's entrepeneurship. But for some reason, I didn't call myself an entrepreneur, I just thought, oh, here's a way to make sixty bucks an hour instead of work for five dollars an hour at the local Pizza Hut or something, you know. And I realized it in college that I was an entrepreneur. But I had that mindset like, oh, I need security. I need that blanket. I need something in case things don't work out. And so the last minute I switched to accounting because someone said will business and accounting is the language of business that was the line they used and I thought okay. Well, the only go learn the language of business because I'm probably going to have to be doing a lot of different things related to that. And I might as well learn something that I've never really known anything about because everybody always complains about taxes and finances. And accounting and bookkeeping and financial statements and all that stuff. And so I got a degree in accounting. It was probably the best thing I ever did. In terms of being able to understand how the money actually works to look at a statement of cash flows to look at income statement at a balance sheet end to end review, your finances, and to be able to create budgets and projections because it's really helped us to set goals that make sense rather than have pie in the sky and has helped us with all kinds of other things to audits and all the other random crap that you never think you're going to have to deal with because we keep very clean books and everything's always updated, and we have literally twenty four seven finances. I can tell you any point in time. Exactly what a month is looking like. And that's a that's been a powerful thing. And I think it's probably because of my background in accounting to my business partners attention to creating systems and processes out of things that we do more than once that has allowed for us to have a very it a couple of days ago. Whenever guys is like, I can't believe the dashboard, and the accounting we have we should create a SAS just for what we built here for all the other businesses because this is like quick books on steroids or something, you know. And it's kind of true. That's what we have. And it's it's a beautiful little system that we just called the back end. I don't know if that answers your question about accounting, but maybe that gives you a little bit of why it ended up happening that way. So I took like twenty four credits a semester because I had already been in college too long. I got my associates degree while I was in high school. And so I wanted to be done in college in a year or two, and I think I ended up finish up college four year degree in three years. Even though I almost had three or four degrees by the time. I was finished because I got a legal studies. Minor and a minor in Mandarin Chinese so find a lot more knowledge than a traditional. I hate college entrepreneur, and I kind of do a college. But I I just hate it. Because I think you can learn so much on your own if you just put in the work, but there's something to be said for people who need somebody to give them an education in college, maybe has its place in some ways and most people were college educated for whatever reason tend to have some of the skills that maybe people writing and grammar and all those kind of things that I think still matter to a certain extent in to communicate an idea, and there's something to be said about college for just getting done because it shows somebody who set a goal. And got it done. And sometimes people just don't have that stick to it. Adminis- that's needed to see something through all the way to the end. If they don't if they haven't done any, but you don't need college to do that. There's a lot of other ways to prove that you're committed to a cause for the long term. You have to show. College is just one way of one way of doing it there, many many many otherwise to time dedication you mentioned earlier on before about every goal. You've set you've reached. That's quite unique a paper will set goals in not reach them. How have you managed to consistently achieve? You'll goals. I have an entire August ups on I don't mean to promote it, but I just barely released its episode seventeen eight it released his last Wednesday. I would recommend everybody listened to that. But again the simplest way to say how I've achieved my goals is the first thing to do is to route them you'll be surprised if you will your goals down today, and you spend an hour to just wrote down everything ever thought you wanted to even life. Go back a year later and look at them go back two years later. And then finally go back five years later, you'll probably find that you've accomplished a ton of the goals you wrote down without even knowing happen. Why I don't know. There's something to be said about just putting paper and making it happen. So that's the first tip. The second tip is to know your y and to know your who. When you set your goals, if you have those in mind, you're actually going to hit them because they're not just about doing it. Because you set a goal there's meaning behind it there's substance, and then the third tip is to actually have chickens if you actually have chickens with yourself. I have chickens weekly and then monthly so every week. And then once a month, I go through all my goals. And I look at where I'm at when you have these check ins you can get back on track last month. I had a goal to read three books. I'd only read one when I had like seven days left in the month. While I do finished the other two books because I have a rule when I set a goal. I make the goal happen. No matter what I don't give myself an excuse. So while my let's say fund it today stop making money tomorrow. And I have a goal to make a certain amount of money every year. I would not suddenly like oh crap. I got to reduce that goal. I would say K the strategy reaching the goal that I have for raising money is gone with the goal doesn't change. I still need to make this much money. So what the heck am I going to do to make this much money? A lot of people when crap hits the fan. What do they do? They say I better adjust my goals. There's only seven days left. I guess I'll just finish reading this one book instead of finished reading the books that I needed to read not me, I say, they're seven days left. I've got two hundred pages left in this book. I divide two hundred seven and I go and read that many pages every day, and I make sure I hit my goal super powerful. It's just a change in in in monks. It exactly people think that people think that's so true. I used to not believe in this stuff either. I used to believe that's the food. That's that's John hype. Let's get you know, entrepreneur you can make that kind of stuff high in the sky not anymore. I'm I'm a much bigger fan of mindset. And I think I'm gonna keep setting bigger goals for myself. Because for some reason when I do they always seem to happen. And when I set the smaller goals, I achieve those two. But that's not as exciting anymore. I'm not trying to set a goal. That's so big that. In fact, I just did a post save fifty thousand dollars a month some guy in my Facebook post, just call it a while we're on this. He's like fifty thousand bucks a month saving. Wow. But for me that is not crazy. I'm like, why didn't I save one hundred thousand dollars for him? He can't even imagine it because he doesn't make fifty thousand dollars a year. But that's the difference in mindset, right until you think it is not even a chance of being real until you put it on paper. It's never going to happen. And so you have to set these big lofty goals because until you do it. Your mindset doesn't even change. So that you can shift your way of thinking literally fifty thousand bucks a month is nothing for me. I can find a million ways to think of how to do that. And so for him to laugh at that. I love because I will tell him what I told you just now you obviously have no mindset at all. If you think that's crazy. How can you possibly ever achieve? What you wanna do? If you don't wanna do that. That's fine. We're talking about income here. But you can do it for any goal you want life. Whatever you set your mind to tends to happen if you'll just persistent official Jordan Peterson talks about in terms of you know, it yourself overnight. It's behind your goals. And as soon as you said a doll, you things start to align. Because that's what you're I'm full. It's crazy. How many times that's happened in my life? Switching from income. I have a goal to write a musical. So weirdest thing ever right right musical why? As soon as I wrote that goal down. I started telling people about it just like I'm telling you now and one thing led to another. And now, I have a composer and orchestra someone to help me to do this other side of things like it's going to happen. I mean, this is only a few weeks after sentence school. I even like how the heck is this possible gives you chills thinking about it. Right. You say when you said a fifty thousand dollar a month goal to save much money. Somehow you start having things come together and things happen. Not the universe is what he knew fiber becomes comes back down to the hero's journey the sense where you just fun allies around. I love it is a question that allowed to ask all guests on the podcast is what's your definition of the grind? Good question. What's the best answer you've ever received on that? So far of on a of received mixed mixed responses. Some people love it and something would. And get. In between. So love to hear what you well. I would say I love it. Because the grind definitely got me where I'm at now. But I don't think the grind is where I want to be for the rest of my life. My life shifted more to freedom freedom, meaning a lot of different types of freedom health freedom. I don't wanna be sick. I wanna live along healthy life. And so if I work too much, or if I kill my body too much, I might decline prematurely. And so I'm in a position where I can readjust and reassess and say where do I wanna be I think of spiritual freedom, spirituality, and is this life. All that. We have where do I want? My mindset to be what do I want to understand about God and the universe? And I think about all of these kind of things now. And so I've left the grind for six to seven other categories again going on that principle holistic Carmen ization. Or I want my entire life to be harmonized rather than strictly. Focused on one particular thing. But I think there's something to be said about just holding your nose to the grindstone and working as hard as you can for certain period of time because yes, you will neglect a lot of things in your life. And I had a lot of terrible things happen because of that. But I don't necessarily regret those terrible things that happen because it gave me a wonderful life now. And now I'm in a position where I can self assess and it's not too late. So if you're grind in two months, and maybe in your forty s or something maybe it's time to be like, do I really want this on my getting to a point where maybe there's something more? But if you're in your early twenties, you've got a lot of time on your hands. And it makes sense to go for what you really need because financial freedom affords a ton of luxuries if you use it wisely. And if you don't let it change you, and I feel like I've done a pretty good job up to this point in my life doing that. And it's a lot all the other divisions in my life to flourish. I don't know if that's a good answer. Or none of us. A really good answer. It's an things of change. What what once was the grind meant for me were odd hours. Now, it's what can the grind? For me in China's going after freedom and having like, I said, so Listrik Omonia slop style, and I am a little different. I do go after everything really hard. I mean, I'm I'm thirty one years old. But if you play minute indoor soccer game, I'm going to destroy you like, I just take things a little too seriously. Maybe but that's just how I am. So it's yeah. Maybe I'm not crying in as much at work. But I'm still going to try to kill you on the soccer pitch. I'm still going to work harder than you in the gym. I'm still going to you know, what I mean? That's just me for some reason. That's just how I am. And again is that nature is that nurture? I don't know. It's probably a bit makes a both the competitive straight unconditionally relate to that. If I'm if I'm competing anything else. So to have everything I can to win. Even if it's like, oh friend going. My wife hates it. She's picked over chess border away. Chiba order anything. We do a lot of times because I never let her win better. You better be nice to our kids. I'm like, it's not gonna happen. I will beat them Twenty-one zip in about school game. So it can beat me, and then I'll be very pissed off. And I'll try to figure out a way to beat them. Let's see. I would I would prefer that to letting your kids win all the time. Bill bill's resilience the other way. Savary where can people find more about you and funded today founded today, yes, you can go to fund dot today or funded today dot com, we do own the dot com now after many years, so eventually we do get the dog home. And if you want to listen to our podcast funded today dot com forward slash podcast. The episode on goal settings probably my favorite. We got quite a few. I think we have seventeen episodes now. So if you're into crowdfunding the first one to seven should be really good. But then we get on a bunch of other topics as well that I think are pretty interesting listen to me on to speed. I've heard them better at that rate, and you can get through podcasts in about twenty minutes. So amazing. It goes up different recommend checking and funded. Today is done so much a short amount of time. And he's imagine somebody lives. So that thanks again for coming on the show. Thanks for having me. I had a really good time. Very insightful questions. This is the first time you've listened to the Polk lost. I appreciate you stopping by play. Subscribe. Otherwise, if you took away valuable advice from this episode, I'd love you to share it with others until next on.

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Interview - Gray Gaulding

The Final Lap

13:21 min | 3 months ago

Interview - Gray Gaulding

"This is golf. Final land link on the final lap. Once again with us is gray golding. Welcome back to the program. Yes sir appreciate you having me all on and Quarter talkin Talking with you man appreciate it absolutely absolutely. Let's talk about talladega this weekend. You've got a special paint scheme on your car and your sponsors a little bit different And what they're doing. yeah now. We're we're very pleased and thankful to announce theft you know Panini america Has signed a partnership to partner up with the usb You know it's it's pretty cool because you know me being a big fan of the usc Just being able to co brand with panini. America along with usc On nascar nascar. Finishing series at talladega is a great opportunity for myself and all my partners to to hopefully capitalize on a lot of the hype that are gonna you know that's gonna be around us for the For this weekend you know. Hopefully we can put our panini chevy You know presented by ufc victory lane. And like i said just a very very cool announcement Very thankful to be a part of it. As i was waiting for you to call in i got the email coming across and the paint scheme on. This thing looks amazing. You've got all kinds of different colors and stuff going on. I love it. Yeah no anini did a great job obviously along with the from when they got together and wanted to put together this race car Was a great thing. Because i tell you can definitely you can definitely see it from a mile away. I know the people at home watching are the people that are going to be at the racetrack. This paint scheme and obviously to we got a lot of great fighters Favorites on board On the hood so definitely A lot of pressure and expectation lead up to. But i think we're up to the challenge and i think there's no better track for me personally than going to a speedway we've had a lot of success over the last couple couple of years Finished second twice On the speedway and came very close to win in two of them. And hopefully we can change at this weekend but No better time to do it than i think. In this weekend. Talladega talk about the cross promotion aspect of things. I mean a lot of times nascar does partner with other sports and and this is a good way to do it. Get fans of ufc interested in nascar and fans of nascar interested in ufc. I think it should benefit. Everybody absolutely no. I think it's It's a great partnership as far as you know. Nascar along with the usc and along with the america all their cards The ufc cards are going to be in walmart and target. And obviously you can go to Anaemia america dot net and check those guys out and and get your preorder of those cards. So i think for the for the race fans you know. I think it's a it's a great partnership Because whenever you see another sport or a new sponsor it helps everybody brings more eyeballs. It brings more attention and and i. I'm a big fan personally of a brand new athletes and maybe professional athletes. That don't watch nascar now. This is a great reason and a great reason. That roofer guy like myself that you know. I'm twenty three years old. And i've been able to represent panini america for three years and and still looking for my first win and and You know i. I drive for a small race team along with jimmy means racing and and i think I think the high is really good for for not just nascar but Good for my brand good for paninis brands and obviously ufc kind of speaks for them for themselves. You know they They've done a great job of getting viewers and and getting a lot of people that maybe didn't watch fighting I've firstly that's kind of what happened to me. I when i when i first started hearing and watching about you hotdog. It was the craziest thing. I've ever seen like these guys are. These guys are not getting an octagon and almost killing each other but they're the passion is is remarkable What's the training those guys do and and to be able to have those type. Athletes not only be on the car but hopefully be watching and be watching. Our car on the racetrack is is really cool. So i think it's a win win for the sport or nascar me personally and obviously for panini you know bringing in a new card and and i know all the card collectors out there. I think they're going to be very pleased. Though of the product panini has been able to put out. And i'm looking forward to getting a shipment myself and and have something new to collect show. Yeah like you said it's a win win for everybody around with a gray golding. Let's talk about some racing this weekend. Talladega you mentioned seeing your car from a mile away. One person that actually needs to do that. I think might be like two miles away as your spotter What role does he play in a race. Like this spotters everything. You know this spotter when you go to a speedway is I mean he. He's your eye in the sky. He is your number one guy to help you leave through the big wrecks. The you know the the and the different lines that are moving a lot of people might not realize it but there's so much strategic moves and strategy that goes into winning a superspeedway race so I have a great relationship with my spotter. I think we've made some gains over the past few weeks Looking forward to seeing what he does. Obviously we're gonna talk this week and and get our game plan down to a science hopefully Just so you know. We're we're on our a game. That's the main thing you gotta have a plan going into a race but when it comes to a superspeedway you've got gotta have a plan plus another plan because things happen so quick. You know you might get caught up in a wreck on why warner you might get caught up in a in a in a wreck on the last lap you know. You can't really script Speedway race and i think that's what makes me exciting for the drivers. The fans the teams is. Everybody has a chance to win and I think for us being a small team and we have yes. We have big goals but we have realistic goals On a weekly basis but we can go to a place like holiday. You know our goal is to win the race and I think that's very very important for us. Oh the spotter Me and hammer definitely going to have to be On the same page all day if we If we're going to have chance on Parking this thing in victory lane you know one of the things. I always find interesting when they show the in car cameras at talladega it always seems so peaceful. The the car that they're on board with is going the same speed as the pack and just any moment anything could happen. I mean i'm sure it's not peaceful to you guys in the seat though now. It looks peaceful but it's not really peaceful in the car or mentally. I think that's the things a lot of people might on an eye on not understand or kinda hard to understand like you know normally when you go to track and a couple of tracks like dover bristol You know the road courses like you're more physically exhausted then you are mentally because you know you're up on the wheel the whole time. You know that the track is very grueling on your body you know your ribs feel like you just took a shot by conor mcgregor After dover i know. I always feel like that. But you know you visibly you know. Even though we're not feel like you know most most most drivers all in very good shape. And i train on a daily basis But you know while you're in the you don't feel like you're you're you're getting tired but after the race is over and the next morning when you can barely get out of bed because you know your back is is pretty darned sore after four hundred lives or three hundred miles on that Some of the most grueling tracks when you go to a speedway race your your mind is like fried like you spend so much time trying to play this. It's almost you're trying to play like chess. One move that you make could make or break your race like if you go down pit road under green and you get you get You know you get a speeding penalty a lotta times. You're racing over so you're trying to almost be perfect. It's so hard to be perfect. And it's kind of impossible to be perfect At a speedway but you you're gonna come into moments. Where like man. I shouldn't have done that. You know And now i just lost ten spots. Because i was trying to make the aggressive move past three guys watch that lost ten. You know you you. You're just back and forth back and forth and then you spend. I feel like you spend eighty percent of your time looking in your mirror. Then you do actually looking out in front and then if there's a a wreck in front of you you gotta you know. Oh man you know. You're trying to listen to your spotter. And you're you're trying to make miraculous move so you don't get caught in that so it's like your your your mind and your and your brain is friday at the end of the race. So it's it's important to stay cool and calm and collected the whole race. Because if you don't you're going to put yourself in a battle listen so That's going to be definitely key. Is you know stay cool. So hopefully we can. We can do that. Yeah absolutely well. Wow you really put us in the driver seat with that Those comments really felt like i was there with you. Hey how soon in advance you. You mentioned you mentioned. It's it's a lot of mental stuff going on. How soon do you get with your crew. Chief on strategy as it is it months before or things changed so fast as it just days before now. That's a great question. I think i think for me is like i'm i'm kind of one of those guys. I take every race week the week. I mean yes. I look forward down the schedule But i think You know the the mindset needs to be ever every week a new and every week the new race and a new track right so you know normally outcome in the shop and me and my chief you know either me attacks or phone call or jimmy. My team owner. You know we started talking. We started talking about strategy. Actually hadn't come come to come to raise shop on saturday this past saturday Do some promos stuff for panini and take some pictures with the car but I had a few moments kind of just sitting in jimmy's office and meet him talked. About what type of strategy or you know where. Where do we what we wanna do during the race. And and how do we want to call the race. You know when it comes to pitstops or maybe fuel only tires you know like you have to put all those things in perspective But i think for me. Everything is weak. The weak you know is Trying to focus on that on the on the next coming race and You know we spoke. We've spoken a lot about it and You know i think for me is like i. You know i kinda went into depth about you know my driving but also you know. There's a lot of pressure on the on the pit. Crews you know you gotta you gotta have bit stops and you gotta make sure that all the lugs are tight because you are running two hundred miles per hour and things can happen in a hurry. Something's loose so You know. I'll have a sit down meeting with my with my Pit crew once once. I get there saturday and just kind of say. Hey you know if it ain't the fastest stop just make make sure your precise and you're consistent just so we don't have anything you know fall off the car or loose wheel because then you're days over especially if you go a lap down so You gotta put all those things in perspective. I think we've done a good job. And i look forward to seeing what type of result we can get on saturday. All right You're looking week to week. And i know you're you have high expectations for talladega. But why are they throwing the book at you. In the coming weeks you've darlington dover and circuit of the americas. I mean Just must make your head spin. Oh yeah talking about you know it nick. Complete opposite on every week for the next month is yeah. It's exciting though. I i personally love it. I think what nascar's done to the schedule as they. You know my. I have two hats on because number one. I'm a little bit biased. Because i love road race things. And and i think the fans have kinda said their piece. They love short tracks and they love their road racing. It's so much excitement so much going on. And obviously people love when tempers flare and drivers or running nose to tail all the time so that's important and the schedule changes I think it works in my favor. I loved arlington's i. I'm not a big fan of dover. I hope we can just kind of get of there with a with a good run. I've been really trying to work card on on trying to get better at dover and more information i can give my team but i don't care where a road courses. I'm always ready. And i can't wait to go there. So circuit of the americas. It'd be our first time nascar. Goes there and there's going to be a lot of excitement there I mean that's has twenty turns so whoever wins that race hopefully me. You're going to have to because the perfect because there's so many opportunities to make mistakes so you know it's it's going to be exciting and then i know it's exciting for the fans and I'm looking forward to. I just know there's going to be definitely a lot of preparation going into the next month. So but i'm looking forward to it. All right his name is gray. Golding look for him in the special Panini ufc paint scheme at talladega this weekend. Best of luck to you. Thanks as always for joining us on the final lap. Yes sir thanks man. I appreciate it. Hopefully we can get together stan. Thank you mike us at facebook dot com slash. The final lap like us.

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Anansi the Spider Pt. 1: Trickster

Mythology

47:53 min | 2 years ago

Anansi the Spider Pt. 1: Trickster

"Something to note all myths have many versions and variations for this episode. We've selected those we fell to the most dramatic and entertaining and supplemented them with additional research into shanty traditions because mythology comes from oral tradition. There's a wide variety across sources are myths may not always be the version you're familiar with but we hope you'll enjoy them once. There were no stories stories in the world. There was only neha may the sky god the supreme being who created the universe he filled it with planets and stars black holes and nebulous. He also created people though he did not think much much of them. He left them on earth where they copulated and died without civilization or culture. No one knows wine. Yamei created the universe. No one knows why he created people if he had no interest in them. No one even knows what he looked like. There are those who claim he was a spider spinning a web that only he knew the purpose of what is known is that at some point nia may was distracted from his weaving by a beautiful goddess assad say mother earth at a celestial event end attended by all the gods. A saas say ya made her move sky god. We are overjoyed that you will join us us this evening a sussayev. I did not expect to enjoy myself but seeing you hear it. Leases me. I should hope so. I am the most beautiful of all the goddesses you flatter yourself. I flatter yama. You created us after all. If i am the most beautiful it is by your hand. She sealed their love with a kiss was she genuinely attracted to the sky. God the omnipotent spider her or did she know what was to come for her union with neon would produce a child and that child would go on to transform the lives of all the people who lived on the earth near may and a sausage yawn named their son kuei kuh but humans would know him by another name anansie welcome to mythology apart cast original every tuesday we present dramatic stories from ancient agent mythology and explore their origins. I'm your host and narrator vanessa richardson. You can find all episodes of mythology and all other podcast originals else for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts to stream methodology for free on spotify just open the app tap browse and type hype mythology in the search bar at park asked. Were grateful for you our listeners. You allow us to do what we love. Let us know how we're doing reach out on facebook facebook and instagram at par cast and twitter at podcast network and if you enjoyed today's episode the best way to help us is to leave a five star review view wherever you're listening. It really does help today. We're discussing a non see the spider trickster of west african and caribbean folklore. He's so central to the storytelling traditions of the sean t people that they call all of their fables anonciata sem which means a non nc stories. This is regardless of whether the story even features the trickster. This week will learn how a non-c brought enlightenment to the human race but lost himself in the process next week. We'll hear the stories of his time as a man and how he became his own worst enemy in the rainforest of west africa have existed for a million years though people arrived arrived in the region at least ten thousand years ago from the beginning these people formed a diverse system of various tribes and kingdoms each each have their own traditions their own histories even their own languages. The largest group are the sean t who for centuries ruled the akon people with a mighty empire however before even the ash on t. was a non-c the spider trickster his real world origins are lost to time largely a character of oral storytelling tradition. His legend does not benefit fit from being etched in stone like so many other ancient characters. A non seized legend suggests that he was a deity. He's the son of god and i and mother earth he performed impossible deeds such as capturing the sun and the moon and containing all wisdom in a pot on his back back in this sense he seems like a god hero like hercules or gilgamesh however other stories depict him as a mortal man he has a wife and children works his farm and attend social gatherings was he a real life historical figure whose great deeds aids have led to him being deified many stories depict him as an enlightened figure one who brings stories to humanity viewed through this lens he similar or to hammurabi of babylon or even the buddha but even dat description doesn't quite fit while many anansie stories feature the trickster bringing wisdom to humanity he also is frequently depicted as selfish and hateful he tricks god into suicide and beats. It's his wife when she accuses him of stealing their crops. His schemes are so complex that he often deceives himself. Even stranger many of the stories describe ansi as something other than human as a spider he spins webs crawls on the ceiling and has has ugly distorted features so what was a nancy was he a man a god or just a spider bits possible missile that he was all three quake coup lounged among the stars surveying the earth below him the the earth was his mother's realm and like her. It was full of life full of energy. She was with him here. Among the stars they'd come to pay tribute to his father. Nia may along with a billion other gods and goddesses planets and life forms of all kinds quake who would have preferred to be back on earth frolicking with the animals he could run and jump and keep pace with any creature but what quake who who wanted most was to be friends with the humans yes they were simple creatures with little intelligence but he saw potential in them whereas his father sawn none quake who and the humans were alike in this way underestimated and overlooked by their creator creator he felt no such kinship here and his father's domain in the sky there was never anything to do but sit and listen to his father father and the members of his court boast and squabble just now his father was telling a story. Everyone had heard a thousand times already already. Yes designing. The universe was challenging for many reasons but i think the sheer volume was the toughest part why let's create a mighty stop it. Oh five hundred billion or one billion planets but i said to myself no it's thirty billion or it's nothing everyone laughed and clapped and appreciation quake who just rolled his eyes and went back to looking down upon the earth. It was then that he heard his mother's voice joining the conversation. You can keep making as many planets as you want husband as long as mine. The earth remains pains your favorite. It is my favorite because you rule it to ceo but i still believe it is no place to raise our son. It troubles me that you would allow him to come before me today. In the former disgusting human he chose this form not i i told quake who to come as something bright in celestial but he said no mother i will appear before father as i always do. It's impotence is what it is. He thinks he's clever. He thinks he's smarter than me. A child inherits the mother's flesh but the father's soul. If he is impudent it is because your fire burns within him. Yamei grunted unconvinced by this argument. He looked over to his son who was sulking in the corner. Ignoring the other guests neon may stamped his foot and the room fell silent quaco. Come pay tribute to your father at once quaco stood and ambled over to his father. He didn't know what his father wanted but decided that whatever it was he would ask for something something in return he would ask that the humans be enlightened. It was the least naomi could do. He was their creator after all paul. What is it father. It is customary to bring your creator a gift to an. He gathers everyone in celebration. What do you have forty. Oh father other you created everything and you can create any new thing your heart desires. Why should any of us bring you a gift. In fact it is i who require something of you all were shocked at his tone who dared ask something of neon. The sky god trembled with rage. His suspicions suspicions proving true. He didn't care what a sasayama said. This boy was impudent. He thought he was better than his father. Her quake who only made things worse with his next words. I want companions to spend my days with the animals are two different from me and whenever i try to make friends with the humans all they do is scream and run away or try to kill me or try and forcibly mate with me. I'm tired of being the cleverest bean and all the world. You think yourself wiser than me. Your father the creator no wait. I misspoke. I wouldn't dare suggest that i am smarter than you father. I'm merely meant that. I'm the cleverest on my world earth. I want you to give civilization into the humans so that i might be friend them quake who was surprised at the outcry his words had provoked. He was about to learn just how powerful speech can be nehal may approached his son. Scowling may have whatever your heart desires my son but there there is an order to things i you must pay tribute. Yes yes father right away. Thank you for your patience nations with me. Our son is young and requires rest husband. I will take him back home now. If it pleases you mother earth feared for her son's safety and so she gathered quake who in her cloak and return to the planet's surface whenever he was on earth quake who spent most of his time in africa where the jungles grew wild and the animals were too many to count now he lounged among the vines of the rainforest while his mother returned to the soil relinquishing her current form warm she spoke to him from everywhere at once i must tend to the earth my son but quaco be careful in your pursuit of humans as companions. The gods and animals might bore you but they are familiar to you. You do not know what the enlightened humans will be like. Yes yes yes. I'm sure they will be fine. But what should i even get father. He is the creator. He has everything mother mother other. She was gone leaving him to his own devices. He sat in the vines wondering what the creator of the universe could possibly possibly want not coming up with any ideas. He leaned back and stared up at the blue sky. It was then then that he saw the hundreds of shreiks hornbills and swallows flying overhead their plumage was spectacular featuring featuring every color you could imagine some had long feathers that trailed behind them like flowing dresses others had shorter feathers brothers that stood straight up and crowned their heads as he watched it occurred to him that a coat made from these feathers might make an excellent excellent disguise quake coup soared into the sky to join the birds he passed each in kind asking if he might borrow borrow a feather they were congenial creatures not yet wise to the mackin nations of gods and men and so they happily agreed before long quaco had a magnificent coat filled with a feather from every bird of the earth it it looked different from every angle shimmering and changing in the sunlight when looking at the wearer of the coat it was impossible to tell if they were god doorman bird or beast with the coat draped around his shoulders quaco climbed through the air until he was back among the stars ars a sly grin spread across his face as he turned toward his father's residence he would use the new coat to spy on your may day and learn what kind of gift the creator wanted fish quake who alighted upon a tree branch above his father's garden. We're the party was still in full swing. He began to strut and call like a bird one by one the guests turned to admire meyer. The new arrival bringing the party to a halt soon nehemiah came to see what all the fuss was about. He moved beneath the tree branch squinting at the strange bird. Even as the creator he was puzzled by its form next to him a party. Eighty guests snorted ruefully too bad quake who isn't here. He is the cleverest being in all the world. Surely he could tell us the identity of this strange bird. I suspect quake who will not be back for some time one such as he will never be able to find a gift worthy of his creator more than likely i will never have to grant his request and gives civilisation to the disgusting humans indeed. What exactly could he bring that would please you nothing less than the sun the moon and the darkness everyone including the disguised quaco was shocked to hear this for in this time before history the sun on the moon and the darkness were but a legend there was always light no night or day neon may had considered a plan dan for the universe with a night and day cycle but he preferred the always bright weather of the sky realm and abandoned the idea he hid the materials and no one knew where they were now perched on his branch quake who smiled he now knew what his father wanted wanted as a gift and he had an idea of where to start looking perhaps he was the cleverest being in the universe after you're all next quaker searches for the sun the moon and the darkness you're direct passionate and fiercely loyal. You exude an air of mystery that draws others towards words you and they work hard to earn your trust. You love for a lifetime and carry on your adventures if this sounds like you. You may be a scorpio if you're not a scorpio. That's ok whether you're an aries capricorn or leo park cast has a horoscope show for each of the twelve signs of the zodiac find scorpio today along with the rest of the astrological signs for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts simply go to the search bar and type in the name aim of your sign and the word today for example areas today gem nine today or capricorn today and stay tuned after the show to hear today's episode owed scorpio today now back to the story quake who soared back down to the earth prepared to find the perfect gift for his father nehemiah the sky god he overheard his father at a party thirty claiming that the only thing that would satisfy him was the moon the sun and the darkness but these things had long been hidden <hes> and few new of their location arriving back in africa quick who removed his cloak and entered into the the caves beneath the jungle quake who arrived at a magnificent underground lair that stretched for miles even down here the vines vines the jungle were everywhere. Most beautiful was the pool of still crystal blue water at the caves center. A giant python rose from the water responding to quake uis whistle moss hung from its back and water dripped from every crack and crevice small crustaceans and other reptiles crawled on its back. It was the first of it's kind created by may and it was one of quakers oldest friends. Its name was niimi quaco value. You don't need these judgment for it often sat and listened rather than speaking as such. It was the wisest of all the animals owning. It is good to see you friend. I would say the same to you quake who but somehow. I doubt that this is a simple social. Call you only ever come to me when you want something. That's not true there. Was that one time. I brought you goat stew because because you wanted my help keeping your mother from noticing that you burnt down half the jungle trying to control fire and let me be clear. I still very very much appreciate your help in that matter but yes now. There is a new dilemma that faces me. My father requires that i pay tribute with a gift so that he he might grant the human civilization. Why would you want to grant the human civilization. All they do is scream fight and copulate. I thought that perhaps it might be a refreshing change of pace to have them talk and bill buildings and farm crops instead are we animals not good enough company for you. You are excellent company anini but you have no legs and new spend and most of your time in this cave. Sometimes i crave the friendship of those who are more similar to myself very well. What is is it that your father desires in tribute. It's <hes> not a small thing. He wants the moon the sun and darkness spoil quaco. Those are no simple gifts. However you have come to with a right place you see. I keep all three in a bag right here. The python dove to the bottom autumn of its lake then reemerged seconds later with a large leather sack in its mouth. It plopped the sack down in front of quaco who undid the string and gazed inside his friend. The python hadn't been lying sure enough the the shimmering sun the glowing moon and the whirling darkness could all be found inside the bag. Oh niimi explained explained that when neom as scrapped the idea of night and day he tasked the python with protecting these materials neon may hadn't visited had since that day so knee felt no loyalty toward his creator kissing his friend on the nose quaco picked up the sack doc and hurried out of the cave he was filled with glee his arrogant father thought that this task would be so difficult and yet by simply plea being friends with the creatures of the earth quake who had accomplished it quite easily once again. He thought that perhaps he was the cleverest creature of them. All he flew back to the heavens where his father's party continued to rage strutting into the main ballroom quake who dropped the sack at his father's feet. Here is your tribute father three gifts suitable for a creator. I found them in no time at all. We shall see my boastful son but you're right very little time has passed passed. I don't see how you could have plausibly found a suitable gift in such a short time. Well then father prepare to be amazed with a wicked grin. Grin quaco reached down and undid the sack removing the first of his gifts behold the darkness long. Has it been hit from the world but now i return it to the heavens. It is so complete that few things are capable of piercing. Its inky shroud impressive quake who this is just what i had in mind though how you knew this i cannot fathom. What else do you have for me. Quake who reached back into the sack and this time he pulled the moon out and threw it into the sky. It was now the only only light against the darkness all marvel that it's incandescent glow finally quaco reached back down into the sack and removed the third of his gifts the son i have also found the son father uh i have returned the concept of day and night to the sky. This is my tribute to you truly. No one else can come close to my presence. I ask that you honor your promise and give the human civilization <hes> very well my son in return for your gifts. I shall make the humans he's into suitable companions with a wave of his hand. The sky god transformed the people of the earth as they stared at the sun freshly planted in the sky. They blinked in confusion stepping back. They look down at themselves for the first time they they became aware of their bodies. They became aware of their own eyes and mouths and nakedness. They moved to cover themselves fashioning robes out of tree bark. They began to stockpile food to ensure their own survival against the others before long long. They had mastered agriculture tilling the soil of the earth they domesticated the animals keeping them in pens for the first time they could think of things other than eating and fighting and copulating in the evenings they would gather around their campfires which we're also knew they found that they had energy leftover from the day but they couldn't think of what to do with it. They were bored. They had civilization nation but no culture back in the palace of the sky. God only a few moments omits had passed quake who was most anxious to return to the earth and meet his newly transformed companions but he could see from the sky hi that they were bored and by extension boring rather than immediately voicing his disapproval he considered the situation relation he was indeed becoming the cleverest of all creatures even more than his father rather than pouting. He made a new proposal posible he would offer his father a favor and in turn. Ask for yet another gift father since so you have done me the favor of giving the human civilization perhaps now. I might perform of favor for you. I am surprised that you you have already performed formed one favor for me. No no that was a gift. A favor is different. What might do for you father <hes>. What are you up to quit coup very well. I have noticed that you keep close company with the animals from your mother's earth the i'd rather splendid looking. I should like to have someone in my palace. Bring me the python anini the leopardo cbo the ferry matia tia and the hornets mobile rio quakers heart sank upon hearing this request he was friends with all of these these creatures would they wanna be taken from their homes and relocated to the palace of the sky god. He very much doubted it. He wanted had to make the humans his companions but at what cost if he was going to do this he wanted something in return. He looked at his his father very well. Sky god. I shall bring you these creatures but if i do this favor then i ask that you present me with again if tw gift for favor for a favor for gift perhaps you are the cleverest being in the world very well son. What what else do you want now that you have given the human civilization their board. They need something to occupy their minds for my gift. I ask that you give the humans stories with neom as approval quake who turned and departed for the the earth once again he felt that perhaps he was the cleverest of them all while all the celestial beings crowded in his father's palace seeking favor his actions were transforming the earth soon he would have companions of his own as he landed back yeah i can africa. He jumped at the sudden sound of his mother's voice. It echoed from everywhere in the jungle all at once kwaku. What are you up to now. I see you travelling to and from your father's palace in the sky. It is nothing mother father was simply so pleased with my gifted did the sun the moon and the darkness that he asked me for a favor. I should've known that you are the reason my world now resides half the day in darkness and half the day in sun. But what else could your father possibly ask of you. He wants <hes> well. He wants my friends. The python python the leopard the ferry and the hornet what but these are your companions and my creatures what could possibly be worth their loss father is going to give the human stories oh kwaku so these fools have begun to till my soil and hunt the creatures of the land be careful of how much you sacrificed for them. I promise you it will never be enough but quake. Cooed did not listen. He knew that he was the cleverest of all and he knew that if he just did this last favor for his father then he would finally have the humans as companions and so- quake who returned to the caves beneath the jungle where the first of his friends resided did the python rose to greet him happy to see. It's friend return greetings quake who back so soon. What is it this time nothing at all on any. I thought perhaps we could go for a stroll in the jungle as friends though the snake was suspicious it consented and the two headed out of the cave and into the changle internally kwaku wondered if he had the strength to go through with his plan. Could he really do this to own niimi me next quake who betrays the animals now back to the story kwaku trudged through the jungle with his companion own niimi the python though he told the python he just wanted to go for a walk he had been commanded by his father. The sky god to capture several animals and bring them to him in exchange the humans humans would be granted stories. They would finally be worthy companions for quake who when they had walked for several minutes quite bitcoin suddenly stopped and looked up at a palm branch own any. Do you think you are the longest thing in the jungle st- the is a silly question of course i am. I do not think you are longer than a palm branch shirley. Perhaps we ought to tested come here and i will lay you out next to this branch and we will see which is longer very well. If that is what you wish <music> quaco removed the branch from the tree laying it down next to the snake. The branch was indeed longer than anini you see what did i tell you. You are not longer than the branch. You really ought to be more humble anini this coming from you. I am longer. I tell you here i will straighten out more so as to be completely flush with the branch and as niimi straightened doubt quaco jumped into action at first he thought he might grab some straw from the forest floor and use that to bind the snake but a different different urge suddenly overcame him dangling his hands over the snake webs suddenly sprang forth from his fingers covering the snake and causing it to stick to the branch. He was surprised this was not a power. He knew he possessed cliquot. I i should have expected this treachery. I assume this has something to do with your father. I am sorry anini. He promised me that he would give stories so the humans in exchange for the capture of you and several other animals you and your humans nam is manipulating you you know the humans will not bring you happiness. He wants you to be like him alone. How will being friends with the humans make me alone. You will see in time already. You are turning into him. I have never seen you use webs before. Not unlike the great web of the universe your father we've snow quake who was angered by this comparison own. Niimi was just making things up quake. Who was the son of oh god. He had incredible powers. The web's were just a result of that nothing more. He tried to ignore the fact that the python on was the wisest of all the animals come on any. It is time for me to take you into the sky very well. Though oh i will miss my cave and my lake and so began quake whose great hunt he caught the leopard using a pit covered with leaves offering to help the leopard out he instead covered him with webb's next came the hornet it he poured the water from a gourd out over the hornets head so it thought it was raining. He then tricked by telling it to take shelter in the empty vessel. Oh lastly he made a doll covered with tree sap. The ferry went to hug the doll and became stuck in the sap. Once again in quaco had his prize after weeks of hunting quaco was ready to return to his father. He soared higher and higher into the heavens. He was surprised he could still fly with such a heavy heart. He kept telling himself that this would all be worth it. He was the cleverest of all everything would work out. He landed back at his father's author party which unsurprisingly was still raging on quake who made his way through the crowd. Though little time had passed for them he had matured much in his time on earth he was covered in mud leaves and dirt of the jungle. He wore the python eighth on and the leopard strapped his back at his waist. A belt made from vines jingled with the containers that held the ferry and the hornet. He was quite a sight as he stepped toward his father's throne in one motion. He dumped the animals at his father's feet. Well well my son. This pleases me greatly. I see all four of the animals. I requested here so this was no easy feat easy enough for one as clever as i i found the snake trap. The leopard captured the hornet and trick the ferry. They are all yours to do with as you please <hes> i noticed that they are covered in wigs. Was there a spider the president at the sight of each capture well no not exactly i just i found it easiest to make use of webbing us. Oh like father like son. No i am not a spider. I just it was the only time in my life i have needed to use webs. You wish i was like you father but i am much much more clever now on with my reward this time quakers boasts boasts had crossed the line quake who had simply become embarrassed at being compared to his father but in openly admitting that he thought himself cleverer cleverer he sparked a great anger within the sky gods stepped down from his throne staring at the struggling animals does at first he seemed pleased but in an instant his happiness gave way to rage he waved his hand over the animals calls and just like that they were reduced to dust quake who had no time to react as he saw anini sad face blow away in the breeze next neon may moved to his son grabbing him by the ear and dragging him to the the edge of the palace. The crowd followed as they all stood over the edge looking down onto the earth. No further what have you done. The creatures were of no consequence. I can make a million more of each please. Besides i thought all you cared about was your reward. I did not know that it would come at such great cost. You have not been honest this with me. I thought that was clever as you would know the cost of his actions but frit naught for now i give you a reward watch. As as i share stories with the humans down below neom as magic swept the land and soon human min civilization began to transform no longer were they board around their campfires now they could tell tales of great deeds of evil monsters and triumphant heros. This was good for a time but now that humans could tell tales they could also lie the difference between myth and reality blended together some menus stories to inspire spire groups of humans to work together but others use them to inspire humans to work against each other. They began fighting again no better than they first were quake who watched all of this in dismay. His father was truly cruel but neon. The army was only just getting started. I have granted your request quake coup. Since i am a generous father i shall do you one better. You're not only have. I given the humans as companions. I shall now make you one of them. So that you may truly grow close you will no longer be able to soar in the sky among the gods instead you will feel the same pain that the unions do and you will experience your mother the earth as they do silently lee harshly with no ability to communicate father. You cannot do this to never speak to you or mother again would break take my heart. I apologize. I am not the most clever it is you you the creator oh but you are being modest quick who you are the cleverest of a soul so so clever and fact. Perhaps you need a new name from now on you will not be cold quaco but a nancy the human word for spider the cleverest of all creatures you will be creator and destroyer giver and the gator he hoops others and who is always do ct himself now. Go to your new home and never play with your cleverness again ed quake who could not tell if he traveled for a thousand years. Here's or a few minutes the next thing he knew he felt the hot sun beating down on his skin. It was a new sensation. He was irritated at the itchy feeling of flies crawling on him at the course earth underneath his fingertips where there was he. Why did he hurt so much. He felt a sharp kick and her voice from overhead. You're in my highway sir. Stop sleeping in the middle of the road. He looked up suddenly his vision adjusting to the searing brightness of the sun a girl with dark skin stood before him she wore an ugly robe made of bark looking around he saw the jungle and the fields fields and the mountains it was africa the land he used to call home. It was the same but different he he called out to the heavens mother mother. There was no response he was cut cut off from a sasa yoga though her earth still held great beauty that beauty now came at a price it was was haute. The insects were irritating and he could feel fatigue. He was experiencing the earth for the first time as a human. Thanks again for tuning into mythology. We'll be back tuesday with a new episode find out then how a nancy adjust to life as a human human and if he ever reunites with the gods for more information on a nancy amongst the many sources we used we found the akon trickster cycle myth or folk tale by quessy janka extremely helpful to our research. You can find more episodes of mythology and all other podcast originals for free on spotify not only to spotify already have all of your favorite music but now spotify is making it easy for you to enjoy roy all of your favorite podcast originals like mythology for free from your phone desktop or smart speaker to stream mythology on spotify. 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The amazing cast voice actors includes susannah corinthian samantha moore heston mosier steve pinto red schneider and my neighbor mon- i'm vanessa richardson as promised. Here's today's episode of scorpio today. If you like what here find scorpio today along with the rest of the astrological signs for free on spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts simply go to the search bar and type in the name of your sign and the word today for example aries today gemini today or capricorn today good morning scorpio today is tuesday september third two thousand nineteen with the moon your sign urine power scorpio the vibe you give off today. Sets the tone for those around you so pay special attention to your intrinsic leadership qualities. This is scorpio today today a podcast original. Let's begin your day scorpio. It may feel counter intuitive but the key into your personal success today is teamwork in your career and at home set aside your personal plans to lead a team and build long long term relationships. You'll reap the benefits when those you've helped in the past. Come together to lift you up now. Take a moment to reflect on your relationships instead of coercing her friends to get what you want. Try something entirely new together. You just might meet a memorable stranger in the process. Even if they aren't the one the story of today could spark future romance all bodes well to create eight new connections but when you encounter someone feisty consider taking a few steps back if it's an annoying aries it serves you well to let them pass untouched like it or not. They'll find a path to success and you don't wanna become their collateral damage. Consider the work you do in your career with today's planetary convergence competition runs hot and egos clash. 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Everything is bigger in Texas

The Audible with Feldman And Mandel

1:04:55 hr | 3 months ago

Everything is bigger in Texas

"Welcome to the audible presented by trader. Joe's mandell joined always by bruce feldman. Great show. today let's get right to it. Our special guest is the athletics. Newest kaushal writer. Sam con junior sam. Our expert on all things college football in the state of texas. We're gonna talk. Some longhorns aggies baylor bears. Tcu you name it. Let's get the sam. Okay stu we're both excited to be joined by our guest. Our newest colleague at the athletic sam con For our most of our listeners. Probably remember sam from his time at espn But you know it's funny stew is years ago and i don't think i was at the athletic. At this point. I remember it being a big twelve media days and you know one point. I remember max who has not officially hired at the athletic but i remember i was going to meet some fox people some like hotel bar that was near wherever they were having the big media days and max was kinda way clan destined kind of meeting with somebody and i remember talking abedin who they're not at like at big twelve media days and you know it's weird because like i don't think i you know i knew who've anini was but i'd never seen him in person so i i was like i think i might attack you. What is chris. Farina actually look like or you know one of those things but as it turned out. And i've seen sam a bunch of times now at at big twelve related stuff and in his beloved state of texas studio ended up higher and half the people who were in that building that day go figure well sam to his credit. We wanted you to join us for first longtime now. So we're so happy to have you. And you know when when jill dog who are managing editor who also used to be a spn myself Talk to you a couple months ago. You came up with your own job description. Tell tell the listeners. What it is the text. Burt the The expert in the state of texas. That's i like not having to worry too much about anything beyond state borders because there is plenty to keep me busy down here but But i appreciate. I appreciate everything guys. Did to make an app in. It's been a whole lot of fun so far since i've been on board. Yes so it's certainly been a long time coming. I feel like we've recruited you as hard as anyone gets recruited in the state of texas which sands something But let's start you come a really interesting time. Certainly new new head coach at texas Jimbo just had a you. Know what we think is a breakthrough year at an am. Certainly and so Let's start with taxes though student. I had on steve artesia right around signing day. And it's a really interesting time there. We should tell people that you covered. Houston before you're ready. Spn so you really have a lot of roots there And so you. You have a great handle on tom. Herman i think a lot of us. At least i did. I don't remember stupid but thought it was gonna work out better than it did There so i would ask you this. How different do you feel about sark coming in now. Taking over like to see if he can get it to somewhere. The texas really hasn't been since marcell dareus out colt mccoy. I think he's definitely in a better spot than tom was when he took the job over in heading into two thousand seventeen because i mean the floor has been raised because i think that was the thing. When tom took the job was they were still a little bit of a disaster. You know they had lost seven games three years in a row and they had only been to a bowl game. One time in the charlie. Strong era saw a lot of it was just simply one stabilize the quarterback room which they did with sam etlinger to upgrade the talent level overall across the board which i think they did for the most part and then three just actually get back to winning ball games and they. They went to four bowl games. It went to the sugar bowl and competed for big twelve championship. But clearly not enough to help keep the job so i think sarka starting from a better place. Tom is so that clearly gives them a better chance. Long-term to raise them back to compete for a national championship level. But to me it still comes down to. Is he going to be allowed to do the job the way he wants to do the job to do the job or is going to be interference from all the random outside. Or you know that. Tend to get involved when you have You know the head. Coaching job in texas. I mean there's the long-term question. Nobody knows the answer to that. I mean texas. Have the alignment necessary to national championship. Contending program but in terms of this coming season the short term the fact is like oklahoma has dominated that conference for six years and yet they would play every time. They played the red river game under tom. Herman some of them were klatt. Last year's game was a classic right like it did not ever appear on their on the field together. They were that far apart but oklahoma would always get done in other. They did beat them. That one year on regular season in texas just was so frustrating watching them under her. It was always the same thing was always the penalties the mistakes and the fumbles and so i feel like if sarkin magically cure that alone. They should win more games. Yeah i think it helps a lot. If you're able to do that. i mean that. That's i think that's one thing that ended up hurting time at the end of the day because a lot of those mistakes that you talk about where things were seen in the charlie stronger and we're big reason why they ended up firing him. He's gotta clean that up. I think he starts from a really good place. With having bijon robinson in the back in the backfield and i think if you ask texas fans one of their biggest frustration. Last year was that he didn't get the ball enough. He ran for like over one hundred yards the last two games and he didn't carry the ball more than ten times in either of those last two games. They if they feed him the ball. I think he is actually darkhorse. Heisman trophy candidate. They gotta figure out the the quarterback situation obviously but just with just with having that kind of dynamic talent and you see what what did with nausea harris. I feel like that's a really good place to start and give them a chance this year. Because that's a dynamic player that can help you win a ballgame me. Ask you this sam. So we talked about texas tom. Herman signed a bunch of blue chip kids. Some of them especially on the defensive side of the ball really didn't develop into that or or back it up on the other side of it jimbo fisher. I think there was more of a wait-and-see and then last year was a big breakthrough season now. Callan monde is gone. He played a lot of football. There's really good skill talent. But they got to rebuild the offensive line There in the sec in the sec west. it's not like they're in the big twelve. So it's i guess the question to you is after a do think that was. He had a top five season. Kevin someone who you covered back in the houston days. He had the first top. Five season am fifty plus years and then it was a lot of eight and five ish kind of stuff and it was kinda back to Struggling or not just not being a top ten team and for whatever reason am has had a lot of that where it just feels like. It has been underachieving for a long time. So i'm curious. Do you think that this last year's top five season for jimbo was the start of what is going to be a really significant run in college football or is it like. Let me see you know that. They're not going to take a step back after last year as they find. They have to find a new quarterback and put some pieces together. Where do you think they are headed. Because it's much different to do what he's trying to do in the big in the sec than what he was in the acc before clemson got gone at this point. I lean a little bit little bit toward that. It's the start of something really good for this reason. The last the oliver recruiting classes since he's signed not counting. The transition class have been top seven classes nationally. And they have not even in the kevin summoner. Were they recruited. Well they did not recruit at that level consistently. They did have a top five class in two thousand fourteen. But you mixed in a number twelve class here number ten class you know every now and then got top five but he is consistently stacking these classes on top of each other and that to me is what gives him the chance and give that program the chance to win long-term but to me that this season is when you answer that question because are they able to go be a ten when team again. If they are then i think yes. I think this is a chance. Some special and i do think they're set up well this year. They've got nine defensive. Starters back They only lost. You know buddy. Johnson and bobby brown and they feel like defensively. They could be as good as they've been in a couple of decades. They're the big questions are offensive. Line where they lose four starters. They got an all american. Can in been move over to the left tackle. And they've got figure out quarterback whether it's hanes king or exact tells relaxed hours. They've got to figure that part out and they're going to be some growing pains in that regard but with the skill talent on offense all that experience a defense. I feel like they're set up for really good to bring it back this year and have a pretty strong year. One thing on that. Just maybe play. Devil's advocate a little bit. Sam like jimbo. Recruited really highly ranked classes when he was at fsu even after they won the national title. It was like top five classes and they really just kind of seemed to fall apart Especially at the end when he laughed. Obviously that place was a mass and then it continued to be a mess and still to some degree is but what do you think is different here. Now where. I don't know like i said other people get the benefit of the doubt when they pile up top five top six classes. I just think that just he had a bunch of those and it didn't work out at fsu. Once they got success how does he sustain it. Yeah i mean you've got to stay consistent with the really. The line of scrimmage concrete highly offense blind pre defensive line. And i think the interesting thing for me is. He has not taken his entire classes from the state of texas. He has actually gone out of state more than any. You know big time coach in this state has done. In fact i can remember. I mean his twenty twenty class had more out of state kids needed texas kids and his last class in twenty twenty one. I think they had thirteen kids. Nine out of state that's way higher clip than any than texas. Tech's name has traditionally done or even you know the balance he sees the world in this state in. I think the reason for that is that it is harder and harder in texas too fine elite interior defensive linemen and elite interior offense fleming because of the style of play because everybody in high school football down here runs you know the air raid or some variation of of a four wide receiver offense and so so much of talent is on the perimeter. You know the the big time spacey. The defensive tackles are big time linebackers. That plan inside. It just aren't as easy to find anymore. And i think jimbo has identified that i cannot fill every need that i have to win a national championship in this state. And you know it may hurt some people's feelings. But i think he's right in that regard because i don't i think the days of being able to recruit an entire team state texas and win a national championship. I don't think that exists anymore. In large part because the alabama's the ohio state you're coming to pluck those top five top ten type in recruits still like college football at this. Everybody's recruiting nationally Because you can. I mean you can definitely learned that in this in this past year right with zoom visits. you know the the the notion that it's hard to get on campus from two thousand miles away or that. He doesn't wanna leave home. I think that those days are fading. Okay stu back to the podcast in a second but a word from one of our favourite sponsors the that has been a revelation to me. should we credit john hayes for bringing freshly onboard because the chicken parm is is phenomenal. And stu there's a lot of buzz in the bay area about how you've been telling everybody you meet about this sierra chicken what happened the sierra chicken bowl salon show lime sauce. One of my probably my favorite freshly meal. I've had so far bruce. 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Are you ready to chill out and get some much needed peace of mind if so that is something that scares dot com right now to get twenty five percent off some sweet sweet. Cbd gulbis so so it's not just texas in texas. Ain't like we said like sam said he's the expert he knows the whole state and i thought you had a really interesting story for us this week about david randa at baylor entering his second year as head coach their bruce and i actually had him on here. right after lsu. He'd already taken the job but it was maybe a couple of weeks after the national championship. Lsu and honestly that interview is the best explanation. I've heard of Why the twenty nineteen lsu offense was so effective So he brings you as you detail in your story. He brings over. Jorge munoz was an analyst on the On that twain nineteen team. But he makes larry fedora though. Oc and did not go. Baylor goes from eleven win team to really really bad last year. So you know you got an interesting interview with him where he opened up about. I don't know you tell us but it seemed to me that he was kind of saying like not so many words like i didn't know what i was doing last year. Yeah i mean that's a pretty good way to put it. I think he didn't say it quite that. Frankly but i mean pretty much intimated that everything last year was a learning experience for him. I mean he has never been in berge. You've been around a lot. He's a different personality than a lot of college. Football head coaches and that he's very unassuming and so he's not. He's not necessarily assertive with his voice or with his actions and very collaborative and that worked against him and so he wasn't out front saying we're gonna do this this way in this way in this way. And that's the end of the story and over the course of these and he figured out he had to. We come back to the coordinators. Is he had an idea of okay. This offense worked at lsu. Beautifully layer fidora's approve an offense of coach. Let's get these guys and make something happen and it just became a mess. It didn't work. The the marriage of those two did not work out. it was not seamless. It was a hard product to watch. If you watch last year they had are moving the football and as he is dave started to figure out what he needed to focus on as a head coach he started to figure out. This is what. I want my team to look like and so out goes a you know. Spread type uptempo scheme. And now we're going to bring in. Jeff grimes and we're gonna do the white zone we're gonna be physical upfront. So a lot of this has been and think he's still date will tell you. Don't me he still figuring this stuff out. He still trying to learn how to do the job but i think he feels a lot better now than he did. A year ago because of some of the soul-searching that he did of course the last twelve fourteen months. It was interesting to read your store. Sam because it got me to think about and studios right like that dave podcast that we had I've had several sit downs with him. They were almost always like very early in the morning in a room. That was only lit by the film of patriots film that he was watching or something And he would go fairly stream of consciousness. I i kind of. I don't know. I didn't ask you this but i kind of feel like when you probably interviewed him slyke. He showing his cards. You know way more than the so. When i heard that. When i when i read that i mean it's got me to thinking i was like you know how many head football coaches in college football do i know who show you their cards Almost to a fault because look around obermeier a lot last year an urban meyer is very like kurt society with what he's going to put out and their stuff that is i don't even know if it's getting into his head. This is going to be the message in. it's strictly messaging. Dave was a time coordinator. And i think a lot of times what he's doing is he's he's anticipating problems and he's hey i need to check off this or i need you. Don't be mindful of that and and it got me to wondering. Like how many coaches do i know who are successful head coaches who kind of have that Personality you know it's not to say it won't work We i think we all agree. That he's a brilliant guy and it's gonna be interesting to see how You know how that works. Because i think he took over for matt rule who was very definitely a vision that he was he was gonna. You're gonna go through. And he was the voice of it you know and there was. There was a strength there After seeing it for you now you watch them. A lot last year How much of a whole is he digging out of right now and what is realistic expectations. For like maybe the next two years for him they are because this is you know i think for some people who looked at baylor at least you know ruled that such a good job and he really got the program out of a huge ditch but you know are the expectations. Hey we gotta win. We got to compete for big twelve championships over ear. Where where do they feel. And where is it. Yeah no that. That's not the expectation of baylor and i. I think they'll be patient with them. In that regard the drop off last season should not have been from eleven. Wins to two wins without question. But there there there certainly was. Some talented departed offs the roster after rule left. They lost a lot of defensive experience. I think two hundred and fifty four starts with the number that they lost on defense but that was not in my opinion to in seventeen. When you look the roster. I think that team if things go. Well this your they should at least be a bowl team in my opinion and i think they've got enough talent. They've got enough talent on the back in defense on the linebacker at receiver at running back. And they've gotta figure out quarterback. They're not. They're little on the office of line but i do think that this team can be a team that are bowl team. You know a winning record that. I think they make a big step this year. I i think they've still probably a few years away from ten for big tall title again like they did in proves last year. Yeah infanticide in fairness him. Though is a first year in a pandemic. Like i was thinking about it like you know. It's just it's hard to be a first time head coach. I think in that year with no blake as you were saying. I was thinking too and seven but there was no other cupcake. Non conference games where he could puff up a couple of times too. So i guess you know. It is complicated. Well that'd be to that point ronn robert stephens coordinator told me goes you know. The first time that i saw players practicing pads was an aug and he got the job in january early february. So i mean think about that like you. Look at wells at texas tech. He had a year to install his culture. Install schemes gets players. They didn't do any of that and there were you know twenty-three head coaching changes last year. So all those new coach is had to do that. And that was a little bit more of a pronounced challenge as opposed those who've already been there and so that i can't imagine how difficult that was especially with. Somebody like dave who is so much about relationships you know they and he you know the way he the way his style i think does not work. Virtually so the speak. He will be an interesting test case of something that i've always bandied about which is had the the paradox in college football of the single most common way to get a head coaching job as a very good coordinator and yet very few of the skills and the traits required to be a good coordinator even matter once your head. Coach is not about scheme with the exception of maybe lincoln riley like new name a successful. I'd coach they're not successful head coach because of their scheme And he's very. He's very cerebral. He's he's very doesn't strike me as somebody who's gonna give like a rousing locker room talk so i'm not gonna roll out after one year and certainly not a pandemic year But he's good. He's he's an interesting case of like is he actually meant to be a head coach jersey. Just a really good defensive coordinator will see. I mean he. He said that he said he said he didn't want to be a coach. That wasn't something he was looking. Necessarily some of those comments didn't really inspire confidence. When you're young in alabama fan reading that. I'm like mickey having some buyer's remorse but let's give him a chance. all Maybe we'll wrap with this you as you live in. Houston you've covered. Houston you know that program as well as anybody when they hired dana and that was a big splash. Wow the group of five school gets a established power five head coach in two years in not a lot to show for it on a obviously bet big on that redshirt strategy. And how could he have known that he is reading. Guys for season will be a screw up as last year was but what's going on so far spin rough You remember they used to say The president renuka tour. She said we fire coaches eight and four and they fired major applewhite after eight and five. Well they've been four and eight three and five since olson's been there. It's been tough like you said the the red shirt thing. I understood it. Even if i didn't agree with it And the theory was they're gonna go into twenty twenty and have a ten win season or something of that nature in compete for the conference championship. Obviously that when when sideways and there were a lot of questions on the russia they. You know dana. Call them soft you know. He said we started the year physical and we ended the year soft. You know that they. They just did not play at the low level that he thought they should This last two years has been a lot about roster management and. I think this season huge for him. Because you've at some point you have to show. This is why we hired this guy. And so in my opinion they need to compete for a conference championship issues. They need to be up there with the. Smu's the ucf's memphis of the world in the american so This is a huge year forum. I know he feels really good about the defense They've got defensive depth for the first time in a long time he since not necessarily something that you h football is hung its hat on and dr. I think there are a little bit some questions. Offensively they've got a veteran quarterback clayton tune Who i know he likes I think he's probably gotta take care of the ball a bit better but Dare the one of the most intriguing teams to me to watch the state. Because i think is such a critical year for dana for this program. Sam one thing. I wanted to ask you about is it's student. I are kind of split. I don't wanna go back to the coach. Coaching top twenty five. But like where gary patterson is on. There is an interesting topic The last three years. I think they're eighteen and seventeen and it's interesting just in that the profile the profile about program you take you know go back six or seven years A lot of the kids now only know them as a big twelve program and they don't know them as the program. That was ping pong conferences and conferences. That they're about to plan. Or maybe not i don't want to say. Is there any pressure on him but is this. Do you foresee because he had a bunch of top ten seasons right. I think he's had seven since he's been there and three in the last decade. But it's like. I said there about basically five hundred the last three years do you think. Gary patterson won't have another top ten season at tcu again. If you're a betting man. Now i don't think so not not at this point. I do think they have a chance to take a big step up this year. But i don't know i think the way. The state has been splintered in recruiting. And how difficult. It is an gary in his death of always been really good about finding those kind of under the radar guys and developing them. But i just don't unless they get a game changing quarterback which. I don't think max dougan is at this point. I don't know that they're going to get back to that that stature. I do think they can be good and they can be in the conversation in the mix going into november for big twelve championship here and there but to me. This is a huge year because he has not gone ever. Three seasons without double digit wins. Since he's been there and his last three years like you said eighteen and seventeen. They have not to me. I think this is. They've got a lot of talent back this year. I think this is a huge year for them to try to make that kind of run because if they're going to get back into that conversation. I think they have to be close to ten when team this year to get back that direction studio youth. Do you think there are you. Sam that paterson's days of your entering mark dantonio territory. I hate to say that. But but sam hit the nail on the head like i mean what he does. He does. Remain a premier defensive coach like even though these lean years. They're still putting out one of the best defense in the big twelve. He just cannot get quarterback figured out if you go back at the the great t. Tcu team since he's been there you know it was andy dalton mr von vojkan like you can have the great defense of the world if you don't have a quarterback you're not going to have those kinds of seasons so Tell me on by the way on. Doug and i'm gonna disagree with you guys. Take your answer is yes. You'll have another top ten season. At some point. I do and i do think like max dougan. His has the potential to slide into my adrian. Martinez feelings where i am not getting off the bandwagon. And i know he tina's bandwagon. Kinda kinda your yeah but but it would with dug in and again i i. This is a lot of anecdotal stuff. Because i saw them play texas and i saw it in person so how good i thought he was and he made a lot of clutch throws and he's athletic and he's tough and before the year he did have That issue related to covid. But it was was. I was like a hard issue right sam. He had an operation and he missed almost all and so he so like even for am able to have the wind to play. A full game was challenging. I think i don't want to say they're going to be a top team show. I'm not. I'm not thinking i'm going to be the dissenter here on that. Tc will have another top ten season. Under gary patterson interest the place. I mean certainly. he's not under any pressure. He's a statuettes stadium so he will leave on his own terms whenever that is and maybe he'll stick around long enough to get that top ten sena. Maybe he'll get some star quarterback all the transfer portal next year. And do it that way. But i'm i'm leaning with the texas guy. Didn't he just get one with chandler. Marks slack channel has been twenty four hour traffic the chandler more situation. And i don't understand it but that's for another podcast You can find sam's great work ethic which people who listen to podcasts. Should know by go. The athletic dot com slash the audible. You can get on. I get a discount on your subscription san before we let you go since you are the tech spurt Give us the three best barbecue places in the state of texas. Wow look i mean. Number one is franklin barbecue. Austin you just have to be willing to stand in a four hour line unless you want to spend enough to buy an entire brisk if you wanna buy the whole brisket. Which is i. Think one hundred dollars you can go to like an express line and go pick it up and that takes like five minutes if that so. That's the chichi. If you have a large people people to feed Become lodge in dallas Any of you guys who have been down for you. Playoff games or bowl games Down att stadium. A lotta people down gone down to pecan lodge and dallas In deep ellum. Which is the colleges favorites without question. And i don't know if they do. I think you've made this trip before with andy. All the way out to lexington to snows barbecue at eight in the morning on saturday. Andy made the trip for us. God cafe guy and brought it to the press box at texas am. yeah. I remember that thirteen of snows. It snows texas monthly. I think currently has snows as the number one of the state. They this is how good they are. They open one day a week and one day a week only at eight. Am on saturdays. And so if you want snows barbecue you'd better go with a cup and drive out to lexington texas and get there at eight. Am but Snows franklin and become larger. Probably best alarm. I'm feeling very proud. That i've had all three dago. That's a pretty good. Yeah that's that that is that is the top in of the top in in this state without question. Very good sam. We're seriously we are so fired up. You're with us I've been you know. Think about that when we've had some a some of our calls and everything just the insight you braying and just having done it for a long time now. So we'll appreciate it. It's been a lot of fun to be with you. Guys you guys are awesome group. All right follow. Sam and read all his stuff on the athletic. He's getting on the road and busy so got next. I'm going to lubbock actually will be there tomorrow and visiting with texas tech and we'll go there spring game and then The week after we'll go to texas spring game and off we go with a lotta traveling a lot trips up more than have done the last twelve months sam's twitter handle by the way s con junior s. k. h. a. n. jr. And that is we're gonna live vicariously through. Bruce might have made off the couch yet. But we will speak for yourself. Stu i'm going to uc spring game. This weekend. Are they would go some real football aright sam. Thanks so much for coming on no problem. Thanks guys thanks. 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Ever get an invite in. And we'll north dakota. I assume anything's north dakota state ever got out of fcs. Lots of questions. Like eight questions packed into one year I mean i think that that's the million dollar question or higher. I guess i would say billion dollar question Twenty twenty four when the pac twelve deal. Tv deal comes up and twenty twenty five when the big twelve comes up or either of them going to make some sort of big move and might possibly do one together. Pac twelve is going to have a new commissioner soon. We don't know who it is yet I would recommend that they do something like that because the way things are headed. Now you know use the phrase power five but it's really the power to if you're talking money the baytown. Sec have so separated themselves from everybody else and even going to get worse here In the next few years. So if you're the big twelve in the twelve and you're going to market with your tvd on a few years you're gonna see an increase because live. Sports is very valuable and they haven't had You know they've they've been stuck in their current deals for a decade but they're not gonna get. Sec big ten money but if they join forces they might. I had that uconn less than a couple months ago if the only chance that. Espn or fox. Or somebody else had to get either. Conference was to bid on them together. They make a lot more money now. That's not the only consideration does Do the president's at cal stanford and ucla wanna be in a conference with oklahoma oklahoma state. Texas tech. i'm guessing no guessing no and it would just be a comes down to. How aggressive will the next commissioner be about Imploring them to do something said. Hey this is the reality of you guys. Don't do something big We're gonna to fall further into oblivion so And look everybody's assumes that the big twelve will be the one that would be the most endangered but if you've been paying attention the last few years. The walls had a lot more issues than the big twelve Could the big twelve either one pounces and tries to get some of their school so probably more realistically is the other scenario. He brought up that. Maybe the big twelve. They certainly entertained it in two thousand sixteen. Do they go out and get cincinnati and try to beef up the conference a little bit that way. certainly possible. I don't think north dakota north dakota state to me has had chances to go up to fps. the way they have it being the powerhouse of the division below. Stu why would refresh my memory on this and obviously this is a little bit of thought revisionist history but cincinnati. Football program has really elevated. Under under luke fickle especially the last couple years. If you're the big twelve why would you not make that move. Because it's not like they're that much of an outlier geographically. When you already have west. Virginia in there so what would be an again. Ucf is another one. Where i was like i could see that it's orlando too big market. They're very good in football And now they're a little more of an established brand so if you're the big twelve hike i'm not saying what do you think they would do. What would what would you do if the big well comes to the. I thought they should have done it. In two thousand sixteen. I thought i thought the reward outweighed the risk the risk in the reason they didn't do it is an. I'm talking about the president. I think bob if you ask. Bob wills game some truth serum he'd say we absolutely should have expanded but it's not me his calls the president's and basically came down to. They didn't want split the pie with humour people they weren't they like splitting ten ways. Not twelve They weren't confident. I guess they weren't confident that those schools they also talked. Cook you austin. And and byu and when they weren't confident that any of those schools would lift the overall value. And let me let me let me remind you something. Though you said twenty sixteen the two schools were talking about in particular have had a lot of success since then. Yeah twenty sixteen. I think scott frost will took that just been zero and team and got him to five hundred and the cincinnati coach. Tommy ville and the program was starting to circle the drain under him. I think should be should be different this time around because so so me. You're gonna make more money regardless like you when you if you're a sports conference in you have a tv deal coming up lake just by nature of i guess inflation tv inflation. You're gonna make more money but you know the question would be with those programs. Add value to your conference absolutely The big twelve right now has a problem in that people wanna watch oklahoma and people wanna watch texas other than that you know baylor will have a couple of good years here and there you know iowa state is the story of the moment right now but in general i think people still view it as a two team conference. They don't have and really help. It's in a long time. Yeah i would add context to that. It's all a little anecdotal but A couple of years ago our crew had a double. It was actually lincoln riley first game as head coach. But we had a double. We were at oklahoma state they were playing tulsa team that i think was coming off a ten win season and it was they were in stillwater on thursday night. Oklahoma state had a good team that turned out to be a blow out but the tv ratings number on that was horrific. It was up against an ohio state. Indiana game i think and that was a turned out to be a good game but the numbers to underscore what you're saying just in terms of like this is not even nevermind ohio state but even when you get into the penn state michigan nebraska kind of depth of what they typically draw whether they're pretty good war or even more than that even when some of these other teams are really good. They don't draw a lot of tv numbers. And i think that's a that's an unfortunate reality especially as it relates to the to the rest of the big twelve that baked also sends you know every year while the draft here in a couple of weeks in every after the drafts over. You'll see the numbers of who got picked by conference. The big twelve was always fifth out of five even even if you divided by number of schools that they need to upgrade their football product. And i do think that those two programs unquestionably would upgrade it. And then it's just a question of you know. Ucf cincinnati or doing pretty well now as a group of five teams who give them power five affiliation was the ceiling from there Tcu had that going for a little bit. We talked about them. They're not so much right now. But you know. I always thought utah. Interest just had the best pro season they've ever had and i feel like they're a top ten team now so there's definitely some some really good things about it. I think you should call. Bob bos be and have a conversation. Oh i'm sure nobody has them through this idea him ever and i'm just saying look it's not two thousand sixteen anymore by other teams have really gotten it going. All right This next question for andrew I'll read it to you bruce. Hey guys i've always wondered why the pac twelve hasn't been able to recruit better specifically keeping west coast recruits like nausea harris from going back east. Even though he's been down in recent years is not like the conference hasn't been able to produce its fair. Share of high draft picks. Jared goff in justin herbert while the tv package a lot to be desired. Most of the conference resides in major metropolitan areas with lots of exposure with that being said. Why have so many players gone to schools outside the conference in recent years. Well stu i think it. There's a bunch of reasons Certainly the that a lot of the top more high profile programs now. I think they're hot at this point like weren't leaving the pac twelve footprint when it was the pack ten footprint. I guess when carol had. Usc was the hottest thing in college. Football right I think that's as much of look. Oregon is recruiting better than it ever has. And they're a lot of damage on the west coast. I think washington has actually done pretty. Well i think really what it comes back to the la schools. Ucla has not gotten much of what they would use to get and usc now they had had a bounce back year this year. But i think you got to remember. Clinton was on the hot seat so badly of nineteen that that was a horrific recruiting year. Now were they going to keep everybody do you keep were were. They have kept bryce yang. Who's now probably going to be the starter at alabama. You know there's other guys where would to have gone like alabama has had a lot of success out of their ohio state has had so has had success. lsu guy rix outta their out of southern california. i think that's a big function of it. i mean look like alabama is has had unprecedented success under nick sabin. it's insane. How many national titles winning and then you throw in now. Clemson's brand is elevated. They've gotten some really good players out of here just in the last couple of years because their brand has been elevated And then you know look you can say it this way. I think some of those programs are committed to playing football at the highest level with all those things that go into it and some of the pack twelve school. Probably haven't been If you're interested in this topic. I would come pay attention to the athletic early next week. There may may or may not be eight story devoted entirely to this topic It goes way in more depth than we can answer on a partner. Sure anymore as this story. Wasserman story no. It is not an oreo wasserman story. You tell us who the authoress. I cannot but keep an eye out for that early next week but what i would what i would just add is this. I think what's going on with the pac twelve. Now is just a perfect example of how playoff has come to define everything like for the elite recruits. It's where can i go to get in the playoffs and go the nfl and right now. That's like one of four places so So i mean i think there's there's for instance. There's two kids in in the top ten of this current class who both in the state of washington and neither of them are going to washington. One is signed with the ohio state. The believes between ohio state alabama. Like they those kids feel like. I wanna play big time football. I can't do it here. Which is unfortunate for the pac twelve. Because they do have a history of producing national champions including at washington but right now. Twenty twenty one. That's the perception. Like if you wanna play at the highest level you gotta go the sec. You gotta go to clemson. You gotta go to iowa state and and it's easier than ever for those schools to in question. You never get kids out of california but they can do it now in part because on social media They were they ever trying to get them out though. Also i don't know about that. I don't know how hard they were trying. Same feel like they. They know they've expanded look alabama in the last couple years. Certainly you had lane kiffin. Who spend a lotta time at usc. You had steve. Sarkisian spent a lot of time at sc. Got jeff banks. Who's from california so they had a lot of guys who had ties to the west coast. I think the visibility is a lot higher back in the fifteen years ago. A lot of these games weren't game of the week game. So i think that kind of factored into it and it's not to say that that all the top kids leave. i mean. Everybody wanted justin flow in southern california. He went to he. Went to oregon. Everybody wanted that came onto it. Oh he went up to oregon. I mean cory. Form was a big time defensive lineman. He ended up staying in california to go to usc. So you still see some examples of kids staying on. But it's you know and then there were examples of guys like lorenzo booker. I'm sure you remember that. Name stu like he left southern california to go. Be a running back notre dame. Dj will. yes that's right But like dj williams left southern cali- northern california. To go to miami was somebody everybody wanted. There have been those. But it's just been more of them right now. And i you know i would use this benchmark thing. There was a time and this was right when p carol got the usc job were guys. Were leaving. and sean cody. Was the number one defensive player in the country and he is from a california kid dagger up a big notre dame guy and carol was able to convince him to stay and go to usc and that was a big change now. They ended up winning a lot in that led to it. Question is if you if pe- if You know if you're clay helton and you can't turn this team like them enough talent to be a top twenty five team but if they can't be an actual playoff team. I think it's not going to convince the kids that they feel like you know whether it's dj galet to basically stay home as opposed to. I'm going to go to clemson where i will be competing for national titles every other year and you know to your you said how hard clemson trying for the they have more ways to do it. Now i mean fifteen years ago thomson would have sent a pamphlet in the mail to dj now like they're probably dm texting him And then he. Can you know follow clumps and football's twitter account every day. There's a new video from practice or from the facility you can get a window into what life is like there from three thousand miles away so now all that being said it can be flipped like klay helping gets fired and they bring in. It's not going to be urban meyer. But somebody of that profile. They bring in mario cristobal. Whoever like somebody who flips the script and gets get guys to start staying home and or four if marcus bugs the playoff next year and and now you have tangible proof. They're like you can come here and you can do it You know i. I don't think this is some sort of permanent state. that there are frequent Contributor dan klobuchar. Hey stew and bruce. I have a question about a very specific team. What has gone so terribly wrong. At purdue under the wrong during his first two seasons they had a respectable record against the most powerful non conference went seven and seven with super bowl. Games had some pretty nice wins over ranked teams i would i would say wasn't just pretty nice. They clobbered ohio state on national television and played exciting brand of football however since then the team is six and eighteen and twenty twenty a four game losing streak with some unplug spire play on both sides of the ball had her pretty clanked in the seventies and will likely go to antennas upcoming season. That's a dire prediction dan. Where did the train off the tracks. Well it's been limited offensively. Haven't had much of an identity last a rough year. Certainly rondell moore. Who was that superstar recruit. That he got. I think they've george carlin. This who is a local kid was a big get for them obviously got his brother. I think you know a couple years later. But i think we're comes down to is one of the best offensive coaches but he is not jack. Plumber had his moments. But i just feel like that's been kind of short-circuited for him like we did their bowl game and it was actually rich rods last game at arizona and blau had been her david loud Hurt on and off and had a bunch of injury issues and you know they got pretty good quarterback play. But i just felt like you know. It wasn't like when they were a western kentucky was a brandon was just really operated. What they did well. They were pretty pretty free-wheeling he's really good with trick. Plays as a really good playcaller I wouldn't write you know. Say it's not a it's been a disaster. I still think that they're a dangerous team. I just think that it's comes back to can. They have developed a quarterback to do kind of to play anywhere near the level that he had guys operating at western kentucky. You know not that long ago. I don't think it's just that It's not like he's forgot what he what you know his identity. I just think it was just for whatever reason. It's been a lot of little things for them. That first season that twenty seventeen season. They weren't good on offense. They were surprisingly good on defense. Nicole was the coordinator. There was a very senior heavy group. They left and they got bad. And then the next year rondo more comes in my gosh. Like the impact. He had as a freshman. He was unbelievable and they never really had him again. He was hurt The next two years for the most part and it's not like producing in a place where they have three more of those guys right waiting on the bench so they do have a really good receiver now actually built By the way this mountain interested me. So last year they were two and four the four losses. They lost by touchdown to your alma mater northwestern. They lost by three points at minnesota. That was of that crazy game. I'm around friday night with a wild call. At the end of the game they lost by a touchdown to rutgers and they lost by ten points to nebraska none of those teams in northwestern obvious had a good year. But you know it wasn't like they played ohio state in that group and because they beat iowa to start the season and they beat illinois but like every game was within was was ten points or less and it was weird. I mean. I don't know i'm not gonna i'm not gonna say i've had have studied purdue at all coming into this year but i think dan may be on necessarily negative. They're based on what you said. Maybe you know few breaks the other way and we have a different picture of them. You know i. I've probably spoke too soon. Plummer last year now. They were all in losses. His numbers are actually really good. completed seventy one percent of his passes eight touchdowns two picks. He's a sophomore. He's only you know he's still you know he's not a You know it's not like he's a fifth year senior doing that but look at. It was like their offense. I don't know they just lost a lot of time game for whatever reason and maybe that's just as you said. Their defense really struggled after that first year under nicole adam sure that didn't help It's kind of an interesting question. The more the more you look into it a little bit last thing real quick Franken sacramento interesting discussion last week. About how football quorums take so long to rise up the basketball programs in college. I would qualify all the praise. Given to oregon. However they didn't do it on their own at all. They had nike for all that money. Researching cachet if if nike at puerto that money researching cash into oregon state. As opposed to the ducks. I think oregon would have really gone nowhere. What you about that statement. That definitely had a huge impact. I don't know that. I would say they were gone nowhere. I don't want it. You know. I know i think that obviously you can't. What nike did for a lot of progress. But especially for that one. We talked about the joey harrington billboard everything else from like how they made them cutting edge and a cool program with their innovation. you can't you can't i. You know he's right to the street cannot talk about oregon's rise without talking about the impact that nike innovation and how phil knight really embraced that program from its built it up Patty really remarkable impact. So yeah. I think there's a you know you can't you can't say that enough. I mean i would say that you're absolutely right that it's played a big part in their rise as a brand but a buildings don't win football games sneakers. Don't win football games. I mean oregon is oregon because chip. Kelly came there. And and unleash offense. Nobody had ever seen Or or that. They recruited a quarterback from hawaii. Who wasn't even all that. Highly rated the heisman trophy like this is actual football good. Coaching good players. And by the way they've also had years the where despite having the almost plush locker room in america that they were terrible so I think one of the things that gets greatly overstated in the schools spent so much money and they in their in this endless arms race to have the nicest facilities the nicest uniform at the end of the day like that. Nobody has ever been able to convince me that there. So like scientific correlation between having the best weight room in having the best football teams. I mean you're talking about just facilities wise not the silver wise which is one of the main things with organ You know they were. You know their their uniforms were very trendsetting. No question did the uniform to win them. Football games maybe help them land some recruits But at the end of the day like we've seen teams. We've seen teams with pretty meager facilities win. Miami miami had really pretty underwhelming facilities for a long time. And when they had the best football program in the country i would imagine their facilities itself on campus. Were probably not in the top twenty and they had better talent than anybody so now is in their backyard. But i think that was a big function of that. Usc carol two thousand five hours there. All the time there was absolutely nothing special by heritage hall. Like very nondescript right there is a for all the trophies except the trodellos very impressive look at the trophies. But it wasn't. I know i agree as you see now in the flip like I mean you. And i we go to these camps as as they all have nice facilities. Now like and your alma mater heisman championships. You're on modern now. The stadium is is not is nothing but you're on. Water has a really cool football facility. Yeah well they it's they do. It's a Some absurd a two hundred and fifty million dollar facility on the beach and they opened it in twenty eighteen and twenty one thousand nine. They went three non right now. I had a great year last year but it wasn't like getting to practice with a view of the ocean led to them lead to anything one way or the other so It silly it's also. I just every time you go to school. They they've they insist on showing tour and showing you all the fancy things and the waterfalls and the juice bars and it's just like at the end of the day. It's who has the best coaches the best players Lid that as always send your emails to the audible pod at gmail.com. There's a lot of spring games this weekend. Bruce or are you going to be glued to the tube it's alabama. It's georgia it's Usc you're going to go to the uc. I'm done it. Yeah i will not be glued to the to buy a. My son has a baseball game. Go right from there to the coliseum to see the trojans so tend to be a stadium and see a football games the first time since the lsu national championship game right. yeah yeah. that's that long. I don't even think about like that. But yes and Look i'm excited about just knowing. Some of these spring games are going to be on tv. you know it's just it's how i handle spring games right you. Dvr them and you watch any watch them in about fifteen minutes later. Because you only do your do you. Ain't that busy. Let me tell you why you should watch them. Because the time the announcers who spent time around the coaches and everything you will learn way more about the program then what you can see in some like waterdown down dry. Do watch them. I do watch them. I know what i'm saying. You need to listen to them. No i do. I just don't watch live because it eventually. They reached the point where the third string in the walk. Ons are on the field and you just don't but the third string guy may be the players. Funny that reversed roles here two years ago on this podcast we had. We did a show. I think like the monday after a weekend. Like this one. In ohio state justin fields and made his debut. And and i was making all these grand at your like. It's a spring game. it doesn't matter. Stop reading so much into the spring games. No i think. I think the thing about it though is it's the dialogue you know whoever goes there to do the game there. It's a little bit to me like when the big does their campus tour like. I want to hear what revson or howard griffin Denardo has heard about. Or maybe they've seen. And i think when you get some announcers and i'm not diminishing certainly like what play by play analysts do during an actual fall saturday but i think what spring game context is kind of interesting just like you know. I want to hear when we had grace on. I wanted to hear her impressions stuff because we're not there for it right and so especially now where like like. I feel like this part of the offseason. After i'm done with all my draft stuff that i'm on the hook for i wanna make sure that i really dig into and make a lot of calls about who is where because there's a lot you know and there's going to be a ton of guys jumping in the portal soon But also just basically what teams look like now because Just so much turnover and just to get up to speed on and you mentioned clemson. I watched the clinton won a couple of weeks ago in in this another cool thing. About spring games dabba basically narrated the whole game in real time like you know. He interjected about each player after they made a play. Alabama saving daisley saving stands behind the play. And they usually you know. I can remember years past when herbstreet or somebody was like kind. Microphone in his face during the so you you get a window into teams that you wouldn't normally do during the season again. Emails the auto pot gmail.com. We'll see you next time.

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#46 Using content to grow your digital presence with Joe Betesh

Stories Behind the Grind

29:27 min | 2 years ago

#46 Using content to grow your digital presence with Joe Betesh

"On this episode of is behind the grind, listen to my conversation with Dr Patel, founder of petition media, we discussed the best equipment crabbing content. The one lesson that has really impacted dress. Why of thinking and why now's the best time to start. My name is Ivan buffalo, and he will find business. Tragedies. Tips and tactics, then you can incorporate not Anini ranked venture. But your life to help you thought and strategically grow scaling up the impact you having the slow listen as I've hoped Prentice innovators in game changes, and what it takes to go to impactful business, uncoming, insects strategies and tips to help you increase profitability and developed Twas eighteen culture, welcome to the stories behind the grind pocus. Try. Thanks so much for coming on the stories behind the Garonne pups have you on eight? Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to studio. Joe you've considered to the fortune five hundred and to various international advertising agencies in a digital branding spice. Before starting your own agency. Tell me where did your entrepreneurial spirit come from. So to the question. I know I know this whole podcast centered around entrepreneurship, but I never really considered myself an entrepreneur, I'm not really while. I am virtual on business in starting businesses doing things entrepreneurship is like is like telling I really I don't know how to describe it. It's really not. It's not really something that I find because an entrepreneur generally somebody who starts businesses to start businesses, and I don't start businesses to start businesses. I started businesses because I wanted to do stuff, and that's always been kinda my 'em all in. It's always been something. I've been involved with my father growing up at his own furniture stores in jersey in Pennsylvania and ever since I was little I mean that was just my my cultures. If you wanted to make money you had to start a business, or if you wanted to do something at Jill yourself, the idea of getting a job, and you know, kind of just working for somebody else. Never really jived with me. Not because there's anything wrong with. I love it. I have tremendous respect people who worked on their entire lives filling somebody else's dream. I I think it's completely selfless in really mazing is just not something that I felt I could accomplish. And I don't think it's like the best thing. There's a, quote, I I recently heard entrepreneurship is means working hundred hours a week avoiding having to work forty hours a week, which is which is really like the truth. Like like being an entrepreneur starting your own business. You really working hard. You can't make sure you don't have to work with somebody else. So I never liked that. That's not why do it at all. But I've always been around people who started their own business. Individuals wanting to do something you did it yourself. And that's really how am not only with business with with everything that comes so fixing a light bulb in my house, or or your or having dinner. I'd always enjoying fixing the lightbulb, myself or cooking dinner rather than having done for me. But I just I just enjoy the process. So I think that's really where a lot of the, you know, like coral entrepreneurial spirit comes from is really just I see something. That should be your should exist. No, dude. I can't make you do funded similarities between what you're doing now. And what your dad did? It's a really good question. So that's a that's a really fascinating question to I'll go into further. My father my father had furniture stores big chain of all over jersey in Pennsylvania. And he was it was him and his father, and my uncle they're very well known for their advertisements these TV commercials in those states, they were in everybody who lived in that state during that time new the commercial announcers part of my like migrating up, or the was culture was that we had furniture stores in, you know, this was our thing. So you raised me with that. And my whole family raised the with that with that notion of being able to to sell something using some kind of promotional message on also taught me very basically told me sales sooner the ability to sell I had I worked in the furniture stores until I was in high school every single summer from first grade to eighth grade. So I was I was taught how to sell floor with the salesman, and I guess that really taught me from a psychological standpoint how to read a customer Celicas influence decision. And problem solving in a real time conflict or situation. So is there similar to my father what my father, and I do absolutely hundred you kind of do the same exact thing subsea sells furniture. I sell digital you love. I love how you are. We sort of encourage you to work in the business of really really young age and encouraged by fancy word, I I wouldn't encourage I was forced to one. Her enough. What happened after after I thrived? The did you move on the Jews? So here's all give you the full picture. So like first grade to an mind, you frustrates ignorant degrade those those are not ages where you can really sell attach to customer. I was really just brought to the store, and I was you know, I was helping the Secretary Do like that input stuff like that. But like then six seventy three I was old enough to work in warehouse in I spent about eight hours a day every single day every single summer in the blazing heat of of jersey warehouse putting together furniture. So that was absolute hell on, but it told me insane amount of work ethic. Really put my head in in a in a very kind of concentrated, focus place. So after after a while, I was very very very very very sick of the warehouse. And I said I asked him, please. Please, please. Can I take internship in in New York in New York City, which is about an hour from where we lived in jersey. And you said, yeah, okay. I'm in tune as long as it's productive in its surreal legit with thing. So. So in the summer of nine hundred interns for an IT company by the name of tavist group. And I felt absolutely just fell in love with technology is around the same time. This is I think it's about two dozen eight to nine it's it's around the same time Facebook in started becoming mainstream in a lot of other companies started popping up, and I just fell in love attack fought I was going to be the next month after birth. And I was really I was just really excited and passionate about computers with the internet meant the world enduring that an internship in nine hundred I was allowed to to help clients fix their computers. So I would literally take apart but back to the computers day to day tech became those huge passion mine in going back to the entrepreneurial comment that that that I made earlier it really wasn't like I'm going to start a a technology because I wanna be a billionaire like Magdeburg lose while one starts now company. So I could change the world. But he's doing it was it's never about like it. It hasn't ever will be about be about business. It was really just about kind of. Realizing realizing vision realizing dreams so nine hundred will attack tenth grade. I was also allowed to intern. I injured for a web design company. They did like simple websites. And I was interning. I wanted to learn how to do at a Bill that build websites because if you wanna be a social media guy, or if you wanna be value haven't had a mega site, and this is like two thousand nine two ten ish. When companies are still paying a lot of money to make site companies still do today with the company back then to build a simple side of need to make in two hours today back then they were paying well well of fifty thousand dollars per site so engine for a company who who made us excites and couldn't learn what side I tried for three months day in day out of fell full sleep over these what designed for dummies books. I just couldn't figure out my brain couldn't follow that many steps of logic between the CSS Java script. It was just way too much going on for me and then towards the end of the internship. I discovered something called deemed forest, which is. A directory of pre made templates for websites for HTML websites in my boss is actually showed it to me. I actually actually hidden chose Masol him looking at it. And I asked him what it what is. And what the hell am I spending so much time kill myself over making site, if the have is director of thousands of websites, and I can just customize into clients needs. So soon as I saw that I was like, I am so out of here, I quit, and I started making websites for for clients in used to call up companies out of the blue and say, hey, you know, your website super marriage thing to look at. We'd love to make news website. Call up any agency in New York. Get the lowest price you could find wool charge to ten percent of that price. And I guarantee it'll be done by the end of the week and companies are like blown away by this. And we were charging like like, some some websites cost us under bucks. Do. I mean cost the company eight hundred dollars so much you're making for two brand names all over the place, and it was removed. It was an absolute blast is companies were freaking out of affect big have is beautifully made sites in no time. At all. And this is even before this is before everybody was doing work presses like like like pre easy website making internet era. And I was doing that for a long time. I was doing that through high school. I had a pretty good pot of money on really know what to do with social security not much to do with money out there a gun to venture capital a little bit. I joined a gym a venture capital company called treated ventures. That was basically like an analyst junior analyst to down with them with startups, and and decided not to invest, and I kind of fell in love with that world. And I figured well. I don't know if it will be the next Mark Zuckerberg want me, not go, but all my eggs in one basket. Let me be venture capitalists in all in all. And I'll try to inject soon. The next marks her burden through that time. Also going back to that comment. It was never about investing. So I can have some massive are y it was about investing companies you can make a real impact in helps them realize their vision. So I did that a couple years, and I realized that like the VC world is. Awesome. But I'm really not a numbers guy like the graphs and the pie charts and the excel spreadsheet language on the reason why I was valuable to the team that I was on was because I was able to recognize talent recognize humanity and recognize you know, how somebody can see how somebody can progress. And I realized the best look that really is the ability to build a company, and I wanted to help people built companies, and I kind of went back to my web design days. And I said he notices that through on helping companies build themselves online. So that should really just start doing this or bunch other companies, but on a much wider scale. So I just launched a digital agency. I'm using air quotes and was really just me saying yes to every single question that client asked me. So, hey, do you as you social media absolutely video salute? And are just kind of enough figure out how to do it Hon of winging it kinda not a man over the years. It's it's been like six seven years since I started the company transformed into you know, the agency that we have today. A month to know your process of when client said all can you do unite social media video, etc? What process did you go through? All of a sudden, you said he hasn't figured it out lighter. Can you go but into that process? How did you learn the skills of a cell is also a fantastic question. I should have been more specific these these aren't individuals skills. You know, so the this is the foundation of my engines is this idea this philosophy is foundation every single thing that I do web design video work social media podcasts, graphs, designed presentation design anything everything in those fields. They're not separate skills. Are they separate executions hundred percent, but they all are rooted in founded in same philosophy of how do we communicate what we're doing here? How do we influence people's who say yes us? And that question is how do we get people to say how many had are you able to fall in love with? How do we get people to? Care about our story. Those questions kind of drive every single thing that we do me growing up. I was always, you know, the storyteller. I always the class clown in school. I was I was the guy in the middle of the circle with all the kids that was me. I was always telling stories telling jokes because I love talking to. But I love communicating ideas of messages, whether they be funny, you're serious, you know, educational whatever I I love doing it. So when we sit down with the company, we want to figure out the best ways that we can communicate what they're trying to take. And a lot of times there's different factions that we might not be so involved in the microscope of, but we know the basis so when they do social media we said, yes, because we then we said this was the prosecutor said, yeah. With orphan yourself. So also for it is not an example because everyone that's not so hard to social video, you know, because videos oppressors have skill set to when a company asks us. Hey, you guys do video of we wanna do an explainer video. We said, yes, of course. And now what is that? What does that mean for us fold? Now, we have to sit down to climate the script it. That's scripting that copywriting is kind of the basis of what was the court. How do we answer those questions? Obi. Just ask. How do we make of us? We're gonna write his gut them. We figure out the details later whether or not we hired videography for whether or not we bought camera equipment. We did it ourselves. We also were very very very very efficient in very scrappy when it comes to what we do. We're not very expensive agency in New York City. It's rarity because we're really creative with how without with our clients budgets. So if a client had a budget, a super low budget for film, we would have no problem videoing, the whole thing on an iphone and making it absolutely bad ass and telling everybody visited on life because we really just relaxing through declining were really authentic in genuine at. I'm not trying to fool anybody. You know? So when a client is a low budget, we were creative with it. So I have time digressing a little bit of a little rice. But going back to your question where that process with like, how do we figured out? I can't really tell you step by step declined. After a question. We said, yes, we've figured it out when we made the most of it good go to keeping that out that so big picture. What it's full in the background of how you got through the Islamic data zones of solid concentrated north star. In whatever, you're doing your fine. You just got to figure out the details as long as you know, the direction, and you know, where you wanna be the only thing there's a quote, I forget who it's by. But it's one of my favorite folks tonight that you only thing in between where you are today while you want to be tomorrow is to work just the work involved. So if you know what your north star is if you know what that vision looks like if you have that in your head, all you gotta do the work in between to do it. And it's not hard is. That's all you're going to work. It's pretty binary zero one. So as long as so with any kind of project, you take on with any life Goethe anything as long as you're willing to do the work to fill that vision. And as long as you had that issue tennis, solidified you're doing so classy to a video, and you see that video in your head on just figure out how to put the pieces of the puzzle together to make them happen. If you've got an idea of what you going the near you, you can figure out. Ask for help. You can read much going to be easy. I'm not saying, it's an easy thing. But it's just it's a matter of doing it or not doing it does going to be mistakes a lot of trial and error than is definitely gonna be a lot of lot of screw ups. But you know, that's the work known for sure different two dozen Montaigne at the moment, and you know, digital and social media sort of being sprouted as every business needs to be on social media other any digital assets that you would highly recommend the businesses. Definitely haven't place. Can you clarify what you mean by digital asset? Because that's a very that. Could mean a million things sore, so I guess social media salsa should be on a websites that they should have. I don't know. So I I don't think there's a there's a there's a boilerplate answer for that question. Everybody's definitely have a website. That's for sure just to that your home based on the internet. But other than that. I think it really depends case as even website is is like case-by-case. I know I know I know a lot of people who run extremely successful companies that don't have a website, you know, and I don't think they'd be more successful, but had a website. So I think every company is very different depending on what's best for them. And I definitely I would advise people not to say. Okay. Well, there are these ten social media's out there we have to be on every single impulse. 'cause the business reason for Joe in Tony's to store to be on Pinterest. You know, what are they doing? There's no reason for them to Pinterest. There's no reason to triple E N because at the signers. So I think everybody should really just do them in figure out the platforms that make the most sense in a lot of times any help that which is where you know, where we come in goodly that way you can then choose what? Tom on as opposed to spending all your time, you know, amongst ten to fifteen different platforms and not doing any of them. Well, exactly, exactly exactly exactly. What's your belief around Ernest telling that personal stories to build up their of Snow Brand for business? So again, I think it's case by case I do that. Personally. I have podcast, and I have a website. And I have a weekly Email. I'm not doing this early to build up a personal brand. I'm just kind of doing to the like talking to I have like something of an audience, and I really like communicating with them the parents they like what I have to say. But I think yes, some companies would benefit from having the owner the founder having a personal rampart again. It's case by case if you have a company with the founded as a speak English in its accompanying America than no who should not have personal brand is going to make the company seem un-american is supposed to be an American company. So again, I think it's is things case by case what a proposal to struggling correct content. You have any advice of what I could. Definitely I'd say, you know, we're living in a time where creating content is never been easier. The idea that somebody can take a picture and whole world concede. It the second they take it is an insane concept, and I think everybody should be capitalizing. Taking advantage of that fact. So if you are a company who needs to decree feels the need to creating content use your phone. He always asked us like what are we do a lot in video and photo? What's your favorite cameras use? What's what's our favorite piece implemented? We always say are I phones because the easiest camera to use that in the most portable. We always have a handwriting are taking pictures and the cameras absolutely phenomenal better than even ask debate. So if you need to create content pullout phone and start shooting, and if you don't know how take one of some free course or look at some new to the oh had to take great pictures and just do that. If you're founded who wants to tell their own story to nominal starving ceremony. Seagrams live and do a conference of you. And your founders fall from about high started the company, even if you only have to viewers was a to enter customer. So stature clients, you know, so if the Jansher question that was the best way to start entering hunting plot your phone and start shuttering content. You know, you just flip. Played a lot of things in just Dodd is definitely sometimes the way to do it. I think it's always the way to do it. We saw my way of going wrap things. And you know, how is my company has been kind of that just do it. There's no reason not to and waiting for the perfect moment are waiting for the L Y this to happen or all we have to design our site better. Oh, this oath that you just stalling need losing money day by day. Because you you're not capitalize on what you have in front of companies who don't open their their their businesses because they don't have the site gone yet stupid. Like what for what reason sore experimenting? You don't have a site of great. Nobody's watching make mistakes. Now, the best time to do something as always nap like always the second. And there's no reason to that's true. It's a lot of times people might these excuses about the equipment. I naval the things I need to buy before. I can begin not realizing that imperfect is better than nothing at all imperfect. Also, sometimes better than perfect. It looks human the best. Artists in the world. You look at their art. And you hold it up to some kind of objective light. It's terrible comparative offset that was that was considered beautiful in the renaissance era. If you look at a Jackson Pollock next Mike next to like Karaj or something like that garage. Jackson pilot. Ceo, would you do what is this is a mistake, you know, and believe it or not some of the Jackson Pollock so worth more than some of the arrages. Exactly, it some it comes down to personal perception of preferences. Well, you know, some people will will really like what you've done being more authentic in some people will lock the more crisper, look, but he plays everyone and didn't try to know, exactly. You'd better off have fifty people hate you for two people love you than hundred people don't give a shit about you. But. Yeah. That's just comes back to down to the concept of sort of polarizing and going into what you business stands for in. Who you are as a person exactly out curious. What's been one of the biggest lessons? You've learned. That's torture. The most. I don't know. So so I don't know what the biggest one is. Because I need a little bit more time to think about that. But I tell you the most the most recent one that really struck a chord as may I was listening to a podcast yesterday with the founders of shop affiars, Tim Ferriss podcasts and equated to quote, the code is nobody wants quarter inch drill bit. Everybody wanted quarter inch hole. And what the idea is is is that nobody cares about the tool. I mean, people something I mean, some people do, but the people don't care about the tools they use to get the job. They the camera the job being done. And it really struck a chord of me. It really taught me not teach me a lot just made me realize what I'm doing handling in how it's different than a lot of people. If you look at the digital branding, the creative service industry New York City, and I'm sure I'll globally all over the world a lot of the companies make money in charge as much as they charge. An have the kind of ethos that they have based on complexity based on specification based on are based on. Their process. So if he has a company will widen charge, seventy grand, I I they might tell you. Oh, we seventy people working for us when we fifty rounds of revisions when you this will use that use this. That's really not my silence ever been my silence. We've ever tried to do. And I did never really pinpoint. Why exactly I just knew people told me like I sit down with agency founders all the time because it's not a very competitive space in New York as a ton of business. We'll of really love each other. We learned from each other law. I sit down with a lot of these founders in. I asked him like how can you justify your numbers? If you don't charge that much a lot of these agencies, really. So when I actually sat down with somebody yesterday in t- charge recent one hundred fifty thousand dollars to a site, very basic site, something I would have probably charged. I don't know twelve or fifteen thousand dollars for ask them like how do you chart like how do you get away with charging them much? Like, how do you do that? How do you justify your numbers? He said, well, we don't get away with it. Our costs are really high also said well why? So well, we talked Klein is kind of fifteen rounds of. Provision. We use these types of web boss only available to us. And we have this Friday, Terry, WordPress, template, we have this. We have that. We have this that and the bottom line is it's the same site. I would be in. Oh, yours might look a tiny bit different. But it's up better than mine. So and you didn't really have much of an answer for me. And you know, he's not dumb one. I am because I can't sell aside for hundred fifty grand 'cause I can't explain to a client all the processes that. I don't think I don't find value in having extra sex. I think the best things in life or simple and only have one or two steps. And that's where I wrote my business. I I don't think it's good to have fifteen cents. A man. I realized I was listening to his quarter in said that the nobody wants a quarter inch drill. Bit quartering told these guys are making money selling drill bits. I'm making money selling holes in. Oh. When a client calls me, I tell them what they can be not what we can do. And that just I mean that that struck me a lot. And I think it's it's good advice. When somebody's building a business when somebody's trying to get something done think of the whole not the bit. You know, think of what will you're going that conversation you had with about the northstar think about what you want to look like, oh, what you wanted to be an Email that don't end the process and all kinds of ties in each other. All very simple one philosophy. You saying you just do it. Now, you don't need you. You know, what the solution has to be just solved don't harp. And don't don't micromanaging. Don't kind of stress out on on the on the details on the house just that that will allow you to to build up speed and momentum as you go along, and as you keep solving those all-star going close to what your north star looks like it will be for figure it out on the way as opposed to having this perfect plan before you started which which Muth anyway, because you know, I think things will try and see econ have a perfect plan before you start. You have a map of what it should look like, but but that will always I'm of the belief that that's going to change as you go along as you go forward. Right. A jury acquitting electro Osco guests on the cost and I'd love to hear what you'll filter. What finishing the grind? The grind. When I when I hear that. I think of like, you know, all those buzzwords grind hustle work harder. All those things might definition of grind. Which is like the work is just you know, it's the dirt. So the nitty gritty is it's doing this shit. You don't wanna do because just because you have to. I love that stuff. I don't know the grind is generally something, you know, people like, you know, only grind, do you think of like somebody clenching their teeth in sweating, you know, they don't actually options might not generally something positive. I'm somebody who who liked just happens to to excel in in very up situations. Thank god. I don't know how it happened. But like my schedule's insane. I wake up every day at five forty five and I work generally from six to about seven or eight at night straight through. I sit at my kitchen table, it still have a meetings. But but I have to I need to get those hours in and. I love it. I hate sleeping days like Saturdays and Sundays or Sundays Sundays usually were also like Saturdays at some Sundays. I don't wake up at six a freak out. I feel like I'm missing out on something. I love waking up for for the sunrises Becker got a head start on on God. 'cause like rise the sun yet. While pop I got you like I love I love that feeling of of doing something that's really hard in really uncomfortable. Because I think I look at it as it kinda like the talent acceleration. And I hope to never exotic hope to never solve that. I hope to never I hope to never not have to wake up at six AM because like the second I stopped doing that. You know, what else was doing stop? I think the blind as you say it. I think is the most healthy thing in the world thing. It's actually by over every even being able to get outside of that comfort zone. And then just kind of that easy. Like a hate that. It's not that. It's bad people love that you know, good for them. If they they can survive like that, I'm not somebody who can survive like that. So my definition of the grind is. You know, the duty is duty in struggle since the grind to me is like is like the best are almost alot perspective. And I'm talking to rely in a sense to your if I have died off. It's it's almost like what do I do? I'm gonna restaurant is important, but I can definitely resonate with you working from six 'til eight o'clock not to to get everything done. And I'm sure Sunday's field awful struggle. But for the most part, you know, what way your north Sarrazin that is a sort of the reason you do it. Right. And I think I'm very lucky very blessed decide that I don't really truly have any days off because my businesses run by Meads called the test media 'cause it might poll entire agencies just an extension. It's like a scaled version of my brain and my personality and my Bility's to problem solve Bill companies. That kind of stuff. So like on a Saturday. I might not be in the office. But if I'm talking to a friend, and he said something like oh shit. That reminds me of this. You know, I'm thinking of that in all of a sudden, I don't even know what the guy saying I really thought of fourteen new client ideas for the next campaign. You know, so because of my businesses is truly in our it's really truly expression of others. There are no days off. You know, I'm not opening the store and selling customers. I'm just thinking. That's like, that's what why how why we pay paid sick. So I never stopped thinking, you know. So I think that's like the luckiest thing. I think I'm like, I'm truly truly truly truly blessed amenable to even other those words in say on. I don't want to jinx his on. Clem from vita on. But I think for like like even that whole days of context, I think for the for the relaunch, nor there is no such thing as a day off. You know, you know, everything's so tahini mind anyway, Joe where can people find more about you in British media? So there's a lot of a lot of places the test feed. It can found the protest media dot com. That's B as in boy, E, S H media dot com. A mattress like our site with like all our services and a client work in a it's interesting if you need higher branding agency. But otherwise, I would recommend going there. I have a personal website Jovovich dot com. It's like a blog up there. We have like a like a podcast, and I talk to people sometimes and some friends there's an Email list on the shootout in Email to Friday morning conscious detailing things I discovered enjoyed like thought about their new week minimum on Instagram job tash on Twitter job dash. And that's about it dodger definitely recommend onto Joe out. And. Once again, thanks so much for your time. Yes. Force for the today. Thanks so much aided. If this is the first time, you've listened to the podcast. I appreciate you for stopping by play. Subscribe. Otherwise, if you took away valuable advice from this episode, I'd love to share it with others until next time.

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What If Every Challenge Is a Blessing In Disguise?

From the Heart: Conversations with Yoga Girl

49:48 min | 2 years ago

What If Every Challenge Is a Blessing In Disguise?

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So I'm in a space right now where I just kind of immediately trust like nothing is working. And now here I am talking again into this microphone. I'm expecting a pithy at the end of this show university. You hear me Piff Anini now serenity now man, how are you guys doing? How are you? How are you? I hope you're well help you to really great start of the year. I have had an awesome start of the year. I feel kind of hyper kind of crazy energetic right now kind of intense. And wow. Wild. So how about we take a moment to center ourselves and ground? So wherever you're at you can okay. So now wherever you're out, if you're driving definitely don't close your eyes, keep your eyes open. But even if you're driving or you're doing something else while you listen to this show. You can always make a little more space for yourself to ground into the body. So if you're out and about or out for a walk where you're driving a car to take a few breaths and see if you can feel what's moving through your body in this moment, just become very present with yourself. So they're wrecked. A little more attention inward, and it's absolutely possible to do that without closing your eyes. So just wherever you're at feeling the body. The body is doing what the body's feeling what the body is sensing right now. Inning. If you're a sitting down snow dissing the seat beneath you pure standing up with your in movement feeling what that feels like. Let's take a few deep breaths just really anchor into the here. And now. So the practice of yoga, we all know, making our way into the present moment finding these tools for for liberation for enlightenment for realization for God for what whatever it means to you. You can take little bits and pieces of this practice that we were so immersed in and Kenneth sprinkle them out throughout your entire day. That's what I what I liked to do even just now, you know, if you're sitting somewhere quiet, and you're in a in a quiet space, you can close your eyes and stick cleansing breath. Filling all the way up inhale. Open the mouth exhale. If he can feel your heart beating if you can send that there is some space between your bra between the inhale and exhale slowing that space down a little bit actually slowing everything down a little bit. And if you bring all of this attention inward, how are you feeling right now in your hearts, what's moving here? If even happy feeling sad. Are you stressed? Are you calm? Are you everything? All at once. If you can for just a moment. Whatever is there. Whatever is present. Let it stay. Let yourself be with everything that already is. The next time you inhale, maybe can breathe a little more space for the bottom of the bellies. You really feel some warmth. There's some presence there in that space beneath your belly button. And then try to ex- hail from that same place and take a couple of breaths, just like that. Whenever you're ready. You can open your eyes. So I call this just a little drop in. A little drop in a little check in. You know, we have the actually all of us. We have the ability to do this every day several times a day, depending on what I'm moving through sometimes twenty thirty times in a day. I'll just kind of stopped close my eyes place my hands on my heart. And and take a moment to drop in just a tap into the broth, feel whatever I'm feeling in that moment, and it's really it's really anchoring practice. It's very very grounding to have moments throughout the day. Where you remind yourself that you actually reside in the here. And now that your life is present right here. Not in the endless to do that plays out in your mind. Every day not in the fear or anxiety or worry about tomorrow or the regret you have about yesterday or the judgments all the stuff that passes to our minds at any given moment of everyday that's not your life. You know, your life is what's here now. So your life is in this moments listening to my voice. This is life. Your life is sitting or standing or driving or whatever you're doing right here right now, whoever is around you, whatever is unfolding in this moment. This is your life. So how can you direct awareness here now, and essentially this is the practice of yoga, right? This is the the practice of realization of of cultivating that ability to be so present. So so so present and then also being forgiving and soft with ourselves when we lose that ability to stay president. We come back, and that's the practice being ourselves back again again again. So I'm back. And that's that's what's so cool about this practice. You is it doesn't take that much. It's not like you need to go purchase a six week class pass some studio and immerse yourself in a teacher training or become enlightened and become a shaman. Or you know, doesn't have to be this crazy thing that you have to do sometimes it's just the practice of dropping in. And then we realized that everything else we do in a day when we're not dropping in. We're not present. That's challenging right? It's just that. We have this mind. That's kind of in the way a lot of the times, the tell us this is important. This is important. I'll do this think about this focus on this work through this. But no here here. This is important just being here. Now. For me, personally, the ability to drop in some things make it easier than others. I have cultivated throughout motherhood since becoming a mom this really actually very beautiful ability to stay soup or present with Luna. And I mean, I know any mother father listening. I'm sure we all share this. But when we're fully immersed and present with our children, and with nothing to think about nothing to do nothing to worry about when we are Lower Saxony beaches to drop onto the floor and play with them that's meditation guys. That's a little piece of enlightenment right there. Just being present with our children. I swear there's something that shifts in that moment, I've had Leyla has given me. She gave me on a yesterday actually little miracles little epiphanies with her everyday. We are in a super challenging place. Okay. I'm not going to sugar coat it. I'm not gonna sugar coat it. She is she's a tiny little terrorist right now. She's a tiny little guitarist. She's fucking crazy. Okay. She is almost two years old. And she entered a phase where she's nuts, and I know that this is normal. I know it's nothing weird or strange or whatever. Like, you know. I've heard all about the terrible twos and the terrifying threes and the fearsome four's an all the stuff. I just kind of thought we would be spared because my baby special. Don't we all think we will all be spared because our babies are especial? She's just she's been so easy up until now we've almost we've had no real like issues. She's never she's super happy super chill super calm all the way through an all of a sudden actually came right around the time. Like right before I went to New York site. I don't know if this is related to the fact that I left we've been joined at the hip for the past like month and a half, and then I took off to New York. And all of a sudden, she started throwing things. I kid you not like the day. I left to New York in the morning, and you know, she told me, packing and all that stuff. So I think she kind of obviously understood that I was going somewhere and she just took her breakfast. And it was a big bowl of yogurt and granola, and she just hurled it across the room and all of us would like like looney. Like, what are you doing stop that? We don't throw our food. No food goes on the plate put the Faulk like what are you doing stop it? And of course, it became a thing because like she hurled an entire bowl of your across the room there's yogurt everywhere. And then I left and then said when I left, and I went to New York, she had a major meltdown of some sort also related to food. I don't know if it was like he wanted her to eat her food, or I don't know what it was exactly because it wasn't there. But she had a meltdown and wouldn't stop crying for ten minutes, which is really long time for BB upset for for us. That's like I mean, it's like ten years. It's the longest time ever. And then she was happy and all the way when I was. She was happy all the time everyday. But you had like a couple of moments where she would take her food and like throw it and that was it. And then I come home from New York. The first thing that happens is we're going to town for dinner. I prepare her food. We sit down, and I'm like, okay singer food. Here you go and she looks me in the eye takes her plate of food. And just throws it out me like while staring me down. Theories -ly who does that. Who does that toddler does that? That's and I'm like why she's never done that in my life before. I mean, never like this was like this very clear like she knows what she's doing isn't. Right. She's looking me in the eye as he's doing it. And she's throwing it at meat. So it was kind of like a you. You left me for five days. Here you go. And then this has been this has been what's been going on since then I've been home for a couple of days every single meal, we have has been a struggle since then. And of course, now, I've done all this googling and asking questions and advice from people. So I've I've kind of figured some stuff out now. And the first thing that I realized that we were doing wrong, of course, is that we made it like a huge thing. Like, no we have to set boundaries. Of course, we can't ignore this behavior. We have to show at this is wrong. So if she threw something, I would, you know, kind of removed from the situation take off of the chair, go go to another room, and look and say, that's bad. You know? No. I we say Swedish. It's like, no, no. We don't throw our food. We eat our food. You cannot continue eating your food. If you're gonna throw it trying to set a boundary. I don't know how to set a fucking powdery you guys. I've never said a poetry my try to set abound refer me, and I will like hunt that boundary down and cross it immediately. Like, I don't know. What boundaries are I have no boundaries in my own life. How am I supposed to know how to set them? Obviously. I totally suck at this part of parenting, but we try to do that. And then a bunch of people were saying you have to really show her. She's not BAAs your boss, and I was trying to be this stern person for like two or three days and sterner. I was the more. I was trying to like no is. No. And this is what we do. We don't do. This is unacceptable. Someone was like you have to find her time out spot. And I'm like time out. Fuck is that and I Google timeout thing where your baby misbehaves, and you like take them someplace else to like a designated area of the house where there on time out, which I guess when they're on a time out. They're not allowed to do anything fun. They're just going to sit there. Well, what if you have a twenty one month old who doesn't give shit about time out? She's like, she's not old. It enough to understand the concept of stay there. But I would like put her like the other side of the dining room like you sit down and she's like, okay, mama. She like gets a book as he sits there, and she weeds, and she's all joyful. I'm like, this is I don't think the concept is like sinking in here. This does not feel like punishment at all. And the idea of punishment to me is totally totally goes against like anything. I've done like parenting wise, like we haven't done anything like that. Because it just feels off. But this is our first couple of days of living with this tiny two year old terrorist. So I don't know day three of having every she would be like milk. Mommy, can I have some milk, and I'm like, okay. And then I pour her milk and poor like a little bit. And I'm like, Honey, you're gonna drink the milk you drink the milk. Yes. You want them? Yes. And I give it in her hand. She looks mealy. I and throws it at me. I'm like laughing at it though. But I'm sure you can imagine the eleventh glass of milk thrown at my head. I'm not laughing like, I'm not happy anymore. It's not fun at all. And then I just okay. I'm like I have to have to read a proper parenting book, I need like some proper proper proper advice, and I made my way to. Office of this book. Who is she's this? Okay. I'm going to I'm going to find out and I'm going to I'm going to circle back to it. But this parenting person old school from like, I dunno the sixties or seventies or something, and it was one single sentence that I read this online. I just read it. And it's and it hit me in this very deep part of my chest where I just all of a sudden figured everything out. It read something like this the single most important cause behind behavioral issues in toddlers is lack of parental presence. And and I didn't read it as presence as like are you there, or are you not I read it as presence as an are you present? Or are you not and something just clicked because we have had this thing where it's been kind of hard for her to finish all her food. So I don't know the past month or something I've been alone with her at home. I put her plate of food in front of her. And then I do something else. And. I just I didn't even hit me that that was probably not a good idea. But I've been like emptying the dishwasher or cleaning up the table or doing something else while she's eating just to like multitask. Because it takes the child like an hour to finish a bowl of yogurt. Like, she's the slowest eater of all time. So I've just I've been multitasking not. I haven't been present with her when she's been eating at all like at all at all. And if he's been really fuzzy with her food where if we've had a few days where she doesn't wanna eat at all I've put on like Pepe pig as she sits there like a little ambiance. She watches Pepe pig eats all her food. And I didn't think that was a huge deal because it's once in a blue moon, and and whatever, but just that sentence like parental parental presence as an am I being present with her or on her meals and the past month? No, I have totally not been and it's impossible for any parents to be a hundred percent present with their child one hundred percent of the time. But especially around food, and I used to be we used to eat together where she had breakfast. I had breakf-. And we sat there, and we would talk or engage or you know, whatever. And now just since I've became quote, unquote, stay at home mom, I've had all these tasks to do around the house all the time. So I haven't I've taken that time to get other things done, and, you know, of course, talking to her from like from the kitchen and walking around back and forth. But I think that meeting this has been super stressful for her, and it's made her not able to be present and engaged with her actual eating, right? But she's just like watching me move around the house and do different things. And watching me divide my attention between all these different things in her. So I don't know I'm like man for someone who's like, you know, I really pride myself at being super present with her all the time. And I don't play we play, and I don't bring work into the situation, and we spent so much time together. And I'm like, there's this huge piece of her life. When when she's eating like, she doesn't have that presence at all. She's just kind of left alone. And I'm not saying this to make anybody feel bad. Like, of course, it's totally. To to multitask, and do other things when you have your baby around like it's impossible. How else can you take care of a household? You know, it's not possible. But I just this just struck a chord in me as a reason for her totally having all these outbursts of craziness. I'm like, okay. I'm going to I'm going to try something. And this was yesterday so evening like we came home. We even biking, and then we came home. And I'm like, you know, I'm gonna just prepare food with her on my hip, which is where she wants to be all the time right now, and then sit with her and just have a conversation and just be there and we sat down and I'm like, Honey. And of course, because he's throwing every single meal. Now, it's become a thing where every time I put food in front of her. She looks at me. She's like are you ready? Let's like let's play this game where I throw my shit, and you get upset so it's like and instead of doing that I just put food in front of her at and say anything, and I was like, hey, did you like going to beat today? And she looks at me, and she's like beat and like, yeah. Did you have fun? Was it fun to swim? She's like, yes. We mean, swimming, my armbands says her. Little toddler sentences that like we don't always understand and we start talking instead. And then she just starts eating, and we're having this conversation. She says looking at me, and she's looking me in the eye is looking at me, and I'm looking at her, and it was kind of like she honed in on me in a way where like a hot like now, you're here. And she just stared at me. Okay. I can't explain it to stared at me like she was just I don't know. Like, thank you mom for coming back and just being present with me right now, she finished her entire plate like immediately. No, fuzz eight or whole plate drank all her milk. Didn't throw a single thing. And then she said all done go room, and she's all done. Let's go to room. I'm like, okay. And we went to her room like put our days brush our teeth all of that. And we're sitting down to read I'm gonna cry when I say this nuggets, she's such a little. She's such a little grew this one and she's sitting on my lap, and we're reading okay. This is the last book we read eleven books. He's like okay last book and then halfway through the book. She turns to me, and she goes. And I'm like, what is it? And she puts her hand on my heart. And she looks at the eye and she says rest now, and she lays her little head on my chest. And we'd laid there. I don't know maybe fifteen minutes with her hand on my test just resting against my head and just doing nothing. And I mean, she's almost two years old. She hasn't been still I'm not kidding. She hasn't been still for a year. She's never still she's never ever ever, quiet. Never still. I mean, even when she's sleeping. She like hurls herself across the bed all the time. Like for her to just be totally quiet without being engaged in anything when we read and she's looking at stuff, she sits. But for her to be totally still in totally quiet and totally in one place in not move at all and just really be fully still. We haven't had that in for ever. And we just lead there, and she's just like had her little like little hand on my chest. Like, she was feeling my heart and after a long time like she sleep. Now, she never falls asleep on me hasn't ever in her life like needs her space to fall asleep and Ringo came in the room. She was like, he's okay, go night night. And like she stood up and she went to the bed and asked to go on her bed, and I put her down. And she's like, I love you. I walk outside crying like Dennis like, she's she's twenty to teach me things this child. I don't know. It's so easy for me. That's the thing if I'm not present in my own body, and I don't have that practice of dropping in and being here and being still with me. I can't pick up on all of these super important cues that she's giving me all the time. You are listening to from the heart conversations with yoga girl. I fully believe in doing what feels good for you. And practicing the art of not caring what other people think for me that usually means not shaving my legs or not wearing a bra some days. But there are other days when wearing a brought really feels good and on those days, I usually wear my brought from third love using millions of wheel women's measurements. Third designed it's bras with breast size and shape in mind front. Impeccable fit and incredible feel the offer a double the number of sizes that most brands offer an incredible seventy sizes with cups from eight eight. 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Mom, all the time. And what does that mean? This idea that if I'm home the house has to be super clean all the time. And I have to do all the laundry, and I have to bake and do all this stuff that for for these important moments of her day, which of course, eating is a really important thing. Do I wanted to grow up feeling rushed and stressed when she's eating or always doing something else while eating or no I want her to just be in her body the same way, I teach people to be in their bodies. And I have just I just totally see now how this has been a really challenging for her. And that this behavior throwing things it's totally directed at my inability to be super present with her during mealtime over the past month, and so far K this day, one of me realizing this and just sitting down with her to eat and just being fully here. She hasn't thrown anything at me today. She's sleeping now. But I've had zero tantrums zero throwing of anything and what if? What if this is all just her showing me how to live my life? Sometimes I feel like that's really the things whenever I have an issue in terms of motherhood or something that's hard when it comes to raising my daughter, I can see that as a reflection toward myself as well. So am I how about my own mealtimes when I'm eating how present M I with myself when I'm eating like, am I hear my not no not at all? I'm really about at that. Especially during the day evening time. If I'm with done is. And we're sitting down for dinner. It's it's it's another thing. But I usually take lunch as you know, it's it's a really great time for me to get something done while getting something else done so eats and take them eating all eats and do do my emails or I'll eat and do something else. So. This is also just a really important thing of I don't know. And I don't know if anyone else has that where I I sometimes think that things are more important for her than they are for me. You know, of course, I should be present with her. But you know with myself, it's not so important. Like, hey, you know, sometimes I make a bigger effort to cook her something really healthy. And then all grab whatever is in the freezer for me. And what about what about the space of self love, especially especially as parents when we're just split in so many places all the time, and we're trying to get so many things done in. It's really hard to find that quiet space. And I feel like hey, her giving me those fifteen minutes of just kind of sitting on the floor in her room holding her like, it's the best moment. I've had all year. Okay. All year. It's like two week long. But still stills how can I how can I, cultivate, more of that in my life? How can we all, cultivate, more of those spaces of quiet of silence, and it's not always going to be with our babies, but I kind of think or I'm getting really close to the fact that when I have a realization about something, and it's real she shows me that right away. Like that was just like a k you get it. Thanks. Let's stick to this right now. And then for sure in like a month, it's all going to change. And we'll have a different thing to focus on whatever. But. She's a little groover this baby. And I love herself fucking what I don't even know it explained this us in this funny phase now where she just she's wearing these sunglasses all the time she wakes up he's like glasses. Give me my glasses. And she wears hurts. These weird glasses like she looks hilarious all day long refuses to take them off. And then this morning, she's wearing her glasses looking all sassy. And like I'm kind of annoyed at Dennis these days. Just he's he's just been like a little bit annoying. I don't know. But for instance, like this morning, we're kind of an hurry. I'm like, you know, we're eating and getting baby packed up for daycare at all this stuff. And then he's like, I gotta go to the bathroom like, okay. And then an hour later. The man is still in the bathroom like seriously, and I'm like knocking on the door. No answer. So I opened the door and he's like sitting on the toilet not doing anything just sitting there on his fucking phone. I'm like, hey, what the fuck are you doing? Get ready. We gotta go where are you sitting here? Like just like a tiny thing. Like very much a bad thing. I think anyway, five minutes later, he comes out side. And like I like look at him. I'm like, what do you even do in life? Dennis about Layla goes. Yeah, Papa what you even do in life. And she said it with a SAS like Papa what you even do a life like. Copying my own voice. I got I laughed so hard. I almost peed myself a little bit so much fun. Anyway, you guys parenting is just as just the most the most the most amazing thing and the hardest thing of all time. And I find that. I don't know if anyone has, you know, some really good tips or pieces of advice for because of course, and people ask me that a lot because I share a lot of that like really beautiful moments. I have with the baby like L sheriff fifteen seconds with her a couple times a day. And of course, it's like it's like if she's throwing tantrums screaming freaking out, it's not. That's not the moment where I pull my phone out. Like, hey, let's remember this moment and film it like, no, you know, if we're like doing something really casual and happy where she's singing. I'm like all this cute. I'll I'll film it or shared somehow. So of course, I end up sharing more of the positive than the negative and someone was asking, oh, you seem to be so great at this motherhood thing and like you're doing everything, right? And all you have the best baby. And like are you ever upset with her? Like, do you ever have hard times? And I mean, the eleventh bowl of yogurt thrown at my head like there's a part of me that could just like I don't get to the place where I wanna explode where I'm like all my God. Like where I wanna yell or something I still have I'm pretty patient. There's layer of love there for her that just kind of clouds everything all the time. So I mean, she could probably get away with anything probably. But there are those moments where like oh my God. This is all too much. I can't imagine what it would be like to have more kids than one seriously. Like imagine having this with one. And then you have like a baby that's breastfeeding or needs a change or is crying or trying to sleep or whatever at the same time. It's like people have multiple children all the time. I don't know how this is possible. So I can totally see not being able to stay patient or having really hard moments where it's just like, no, you know, and for me like that eleventh bowl of yogurt. It's more like I feel really frustrated with myself or like with Dennis sometimes I turn the frustration toward him like like, I'll say something like man like. Because we didn't have this before I went to New York. I'm like why what did she eats like how we're mealtimes when I was gone. What did you do? Like, did you do something when I was in New York that's making her throw all her food at my head. Where like I know like if there's anything it's probably that she was upset that I was away. And that's why she's throwing the food at me. She's not throwing food at anybody else. Like, obviously, it's me. You're listening to from the heart conversations with yoga girl. Getting life insurance is one of the more intimidating parts of the coming a full fledged adult. 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If you stay in the space that's triggering your frustration, especially if it's ongoing and more than this one little moment if you can remove yourself on the situation. So when I had the eleventh bowl of yogurt hurled at me, I was like I'm going into the Petrov now. Was there some like leaving the baby with him? And I sit on my bad, and I breathe take a moment. Like, obviously had to take a shower and just a little space. So that I am cooling chill when I come back and don't feel like I'm angry or upset like that always works. But then the second piece is that ability to drop in right to tune into instead of acting out to act in word or to tune in word instead. So obviously, what am I feeling right now, I'm super frustrated? I'm really angry. What is it? Holy shit. This is of course, like, no fun. She's screaming, she's crying. It's a pain for everybody. But then if I really look into that that feeling of frustration or anger bigger than just the annoyance of having food thrown at my head is that there's a layer of worry there. Right. She's not eating her food. Why is she not eating? Why is she throwing food of face? What have I done wrong is she okay, she upset what's happening. And there's all this worry, right? That I have they're actually that's kind of becomes part of that fresh. Stray shin that makes everything feel way worse. So the dropping end feel our feelings on the check in with what's going on here. Now, it also usually gives me a little bit of a greater layer of understanding of why I feel the way I feel in that moment, if that makes sense, and I think that goes for I mean, it really really goes for for anything. I've been really into the twelve steps with af anyone listening is is knows about eight. I'm not in a or an alcohol or in recovery. My mom is in recovery. And we talk about a all the time, and I have good friends who are in recovery. And I think that the the setup of a is super cool and really works really seems to work and part of part of the steps is and I've seen people do this differently depending on whether at I actually I'm I'm not a part of as I can speak to this so much, but there's one piece of it where you have to kind of go back into every interaction you've had with people in your life. Like anyone you've ever known any relationship? You've ever had that sort of rubs up against you in a weird way or any relationship where you have a little bit of a feeling of like, yeah, there's something challenging there. Right. The slightest little hint of struggle or challenge in a relationship you have to write that person's name down. And at the end of it. You'll see how many people we have that. We've struggled with in our passing this goes from like, you know, your first grade teacher to of course, your parents and your siblings, everyone in your family. Anyone who's wrong you anyone who's hurt? You anyone you might have hurt like every relationship. Whether it's been something challenging, and then the part of the steps that you make amends or you look at your part. So and so happened this happened to me. Well, what was my part of that situation as a way of healing, right? As a way of closure as we have letting go as we have moving on. And I love this process. I love the idea of this. Oh, much, and I have my own. Sort of way of that. Like, I've never written all this stuff down and look back at my life at this greater whole, I would love to do that one day. But meeting every moment in that sense. So whatever person or situation relationship that kind of rubs you the wrong way or that triggers you into feeling shitty or stress or jealous or anything at all. That isn't good like the doesn't feel good. There's something super awesome there for you to work with. I mean, really there's something there that that can be turned around and something else. Like my frustration of over the baby throwing food at my face is actually mostly fear and worry of her not being okay, right? Which is obviously stems in a huge place of just love for her. Right. So at the at the base of that frustrations. There's just love when I bring my attention to that plays all that anger just kind of disappears like transforms into something else. So what if we can meet every moment that way? And of course, we need a little bit of space like usually we have a situation happen or a person or something. Something happens triggers us. We get all upset frustrated sad angry data, and then all this space passes. And then you know, we might be able to drop in or tune in or do a little bit of work where check in with what are these emotions actually rooted in what am I feeling here? Now, what does it really mean? And then when we get to that place can turn that situation around or find clarity in it. So I think that our work in this life is too short in that space as much as we possibly can. So the greater the lag time between the drama and Piff any the more pain. We're gonna feel in our lives who I feel like I just I had an epiphany. I just feel like I had a little the Pitney. No. So really, the the greater the lag time between the drama and the pithy the more pain and struggle. We are gonna feel experience in our lives and for some situations, or for some of us are some relationships, we have a drama or a trauma or pain happen. And we're still experiencing the lag time, we still haven't arrived at the place of clarity at, you know, especially when it comes to like big trauma or abandonment or death or things that happened in our childhood that were still living where we haven't been able to forgive her let go or move on or or he'll or close a chapter, and the more of those things that we carry around the heavier all of life is gonna feel. So we have to have this practice of looking at our own emotional state all the time we have to have this practice of dropping in of tuning in of exploring our interstate all the time. You are listening to from the heart conversations with yoga girl, Leland. I love brushing our teeth together. But right now, my mom is sitting us in Aruba and reminding me about how much I used to hate brushing my teeth when I was a kid, I guess loon. It just makes everything more fun. But of course, it helps a lot that are toothbrushes are from quip. 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But once they've happened to us, we have the control and a bit of responsibility to decide what we do with that with that thing. What are we going to do with all of that emotion? What are we going to do with all that pain? What are we going to do? Now that this the residue of the situation is now mine lives in my body, whatever I choose to do with it is going to affect my well-being. So am I going to dwell on it for the rest of my life? I'm gonna feel resentful about it for. The rest of my life. I'm going to be angry about it for the rest of my life. Or can I drop into that place of self inquiry, and sometimes that self enquiry it takes a lifetime to to really move through something really intense, and we can have really sations at one level. And then a year later something deeper opens up, we realized like, whoa. This actually meant this. And this is what I've been feeling in carrying. And that's why I act this way in relationships in all my God, everything makes sense. And I feel like I have those moments several times a year the moments of oh, my God, everything makes sense and the next year. It's like, oh my God. This makes more sense. And I think honestly, this is what our spiritual practice is all about this is it super able to keep that type of self enquiry. It means you're gonna live a life. That's that's conscious. It means. You're going to be conscious of how you feel. It means you're going to be able to wake up in the morning and not feel like you have no control as into what what comes your way. But feeling like you actually have a choice, and that's that's true. And I don't want to take anything away from from anyone who's had horrible things happen to them. I have had horrible things happen to me that were totally out of my control. And that I you know, if I could change them or go back in time like I definitely would. But I can't write some here now. And the question is what can I do with the cars that have been dealt already? I'm sitting with them. I might have, you know, look at my options before I decide everything is crap or look at my options before I decide to act out in some really intense way that might actually hurt me or hurt. My relationships can look at that situation with a with a yogurt thrown at my head. If I didn't have that practice of dropping in and feeling so if I was kind of just starting out on this this journey and just beginning to pull at these threads of figuring things out and figuring my pass out of my life out in my heart. If might have been really really hard to actually have some space and by the eleventh bowl of yogurt. I might have yelled at her, right? Like stop this shit. Are you you know, acted that anger out. Toward my baby. So if we don't have that practice of of of of cultivating that ability it's going to be really hard to do in the moment. But I think because I practice that all the time. It means that when those challenging intense moments. Come my way, my gut reaction is to take a breath. And then maybe five minutes later, I still feel like yelling. Of course, those things in those moments that they're still going to happen that with the baby. But maybe with other people are in other ways some relationships obviously are more challenging than others. But if that can be our gut instinct take wrath into Choon in instead of to lash out, I really think could change our could change on our relationships and really in a really beautiful way, and it's gonna make all of life feel more purposeful. So. I don't know who you have in your life that might be a teacher like this for you. I have the the biggest in my life for shore by far is Layla right now. I kind of feel like she's a little Buddha in disguise. I kind of feel like all babies are little Buddhas disguise. They just they just know, but your spiritual teacher might be camouflaged as someone totally unexpected your most important spiritual teacher right now might be the person you're struggling with the absolute most, you know, that person can you think of them right now. Like who is the most challenging person in your life right now just think about them right now, you know, who they are what if that person? What if they what if he or she is your most valuable key? What if they have a key or the situation or this relationship holds the key to unlocking this massive door to some absolute immensely important realization that you need to have that. You're ready to have about who you are about your purpose in life and about what? Kind of person you want to be in about how deep and your relationship with yourself with people around you what if that person in that relationship and that super challenging situation has the key to the most important thing ever, you can look at it. Like that. Would you change maybe how you're acting with that person? Or how you're receiving what they what they share with you. Or at least what you're doing with a struggle of that relationship. Is there a way for you to take that and bring it inward versus acting out instead of bringing drama has that of perpetuating the drama is stir way for you to move a little bit closer to a quiet place. We can find clarity. I would love to to leave you with that. Because to me. That's I know who my most challenging person is in life right now. It's not Luna. She's a Buddha for me by far. But I have other challenges. I also think it's easy to learn big spiritual lessons from the people. We love right. So what about the people that we think we don't love? What about them? What about the people? We really can't figure out the people that drive us insane. What about that? What are they need? What do we need from them? And how can we take that intern? It into something really beautiful. There's a way stirs away. I know it for sure for sure. So let's all of us a hot all of us take really deep breath in. And through the mouth, let it out. Now for your homework for this week. Ooh, I love saying that for your homework for this for this week. We are now in from the heart session from the heart class seriously for your homework this week, if you know who your most challenging person is in your life that person that really drives you almost insanely crazy whether or not you are in communication with them or not or there's just a passive person from your past whoever that person is you to take a moment today to sit down and write them a letter to sit down and write them a letter. It begins like this. Dear name of said person. What I admire the most about you. It's. It's. So dear, you know, whatever their name is what I admire most about you. And I want you to sit down, and you can do the stream of consciousness style where you just start writing. And you see what comes or maybe you sit down you close your eyes moment. And you really think about this person on whatever qualities they have that you really love about them or that you really admire about them, or that your qualities they have that you wish you had more. Whatever you admire about them. And if there's someone that you really sort of almost hate or struggle with a lot it's going to force you to enter a space where you have to look at them with a different set of is right. We have to really look at them with loving is looking looking for their positive qualities looking qualities that they have that. Maybe you wish that you had or qualities that they have the you actually really love. Maybe there is a piece of them that you love a lot. And when we get stuck in this sort of situation where we focus so much about what doesn't work in a relationship or what we really don't like about the other person. Sometimes we for. Forget that there's beauty in that person to there is love and that person to on. There is something. There's something worth while in looking for that an honoring and recognizing that. And maybe maybe maybe just maybe you'll see that. There's something that you have in common with that person to that whatever the real struggle is there is a key that you can use for something. So dear you, what I admire most about you if and you write a new right new rights, and I want to hear about it. So share it with me if you write a letter when you've written your letter, you don't have to pose that. Of course, you don't have to mail it. If you feel at the end of it like, this is turn into something beautiful, and you want to mail it or Email it to them or Senate in India or share it or speak it out loud by all means do that. Oh, man. I've seen plenty really heavily challenging relationships turned around by just bringing a little bit of love into that same space. But this totally works. If it's just a private letter that you burn or. Throw away or keeping your notebook afterwards for for safekeeping. So. Thank you for listening. Thank you for practicing. Thank you for feeling for for being here and sharing the space with me to drop in and tune in. And do all this work all the time and biggest panky of all to Leyla for throwing all the yogurt at my head. I I love you so much. I'll see all of you guys next week. Thank you so much for listening into this week's episode. If you enjoyed it be sure to listen and subscribe to other great episodes of from the heart conversations with yoga girl. You can find them all on yoga girl dot com slash listen or on apple podcasts or anywhere. You normally get your podcast. Don't forget to leave review while you aren't there. Thanks to the folks that cadence thirteen for their production. We're gonna cores thanks to my sponsors, transfer wise, third love policy, genius and quip. Please support them the way they support this podcast. 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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 214: Eurocup Victories

GSMC Soccer Podcast

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GSMC Soccer Podcast Episode 214: Eurocup Victories

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Was greece and the most surprising thing is that no one was expecting that. Greece was completely underdog. No-one expected in greece to win. And when i mean no one. I mean not even the pleased why these because one of the players recess. If that's how you say his name. Sorry for mispronouncing glenn his wedding to be on june eighth on july nine. I'm sorry you. He blamed his winning to his waiting to be on. You like nine of two thousand and four. What's this is. The tournament was supposed to keep going on line. Nine they grease like the play from. Greece had no faith. They were going to make it so he decided to why not. Let's planner wedding during the tournament. I mean we're not even going to classify to the semi finals or the finals. So we should not have to worry about it. Kristie enough the end up winning the tournament and more greasy. Most of the team was invited to the wedding and they had to cancel the wedding because they were they were playing at the time. It something crazy to think that you know you plan your wedding. Because you don't like a million years thing that you can classify for the final semifinal of the european tournament because clause never make it really fighting this tournaments because they have never had a team a strong as countries for example france. Italy England germany Even spain i don't believe in just for spain hideout powerful team or a team. That came competed with the teams. But you know they were always trying to find so young. This summer's european would only have finished a few days before the ceremony. The final was escaped for you. Life fourth and recess teammates in the squad for had been invited why by the groom and players did not so up to the wedding. You guys know why he has to be. we're playing. Soccer recess started in all of the games but won. Ki's was left back and did all she could to reassure his bride to be. They will be not a problem by schedule. He they wedding during the tournament. There will be ample time for life to get back to normal before july ninth. And he said that he will be home by yourself. You lie. I can watch the semi-finals finals with my friends. On a few beers pixar and then we can have our onset liberation. Everybody will be there as in out freezes rondo. we say. Healy made it back degrees on july fifth. He did not have time to. What's the climax to the terminal television. Because he was part of it not have more than a week to prepare for the wedding. Duckie's and christina would not be the only people in greece celebrating that summer far from it instead an entire nation to victory in disbelief. Ecstasy's the best the rest of the warned. My half greek is greece for being boring. Animating un-imaginative Even but nobody among the thousands was flogged. See their heroes. Arrive us winners. Greece greece had wanted One two thousand four european championships for the first time in a long time. This is the story of the most likely unlikely win. In meyer turning he stood beaking Using any begins marsters mentorship in the autumn of two one greece travel to old threat for to england land in our world cup qualifier. It's a game. Best remembered for david bacon sculpted marble tribute. Act the wonderful swearing. Freaky that at two one. Draw on sylvia's unseal Shrink goran eriksson sides ablaze. The two hundred workup in other words. England thanks to david bacon england qualified to their To play in a work of us into that it was two years early before this european gap sadly england. the not Warned the tournament on indie quarterfinals. He lost and he had to go home while have been at all. Trust for turn out to be no more than a stinking post on a road to nowhere for greece. It was different. It was like the aesthetic for your me. I will say you star of a the estate of realization that they needed to chains and they needed to ten teams. I if they wanted wanted to win games and they wanted to the rest of the world that they still can play These you know like fisher said to the Bris before To the media. Slake greece's our country the loves soccer and that is true but sadly it's not they're not really good at it. They are not especially good at last visits to european temp agency was in ninety eighty. They had made the nine hundred ninety four world cup. But in me game in the united states as you guys know my no in ninety four d workout was hosted by the united states. A the fact that they did not win a single game in the united states that they didn't go file it was not a surprise for the rest of the world. They have never won a game in a major tournament and they have never ever scored a goal into this one degree Soaker association handled the responsibility of an underperforming nation national team to bitter. And you're magoge these when things started to chance when when they go like the german goats arrive at greece. The team suddenly became an extraordinary team. A team that could play team that you know was able to play against other teams. Were say on. We'd have finally they so that they can. They could compete. They could be a challenge to other countries like we said before having a new coats or changing gorgeous came. Be the difference between winning under anderson. Hobby agreed goats. It's such unimportant thing on many people don't know this but a team can be good. They could have good players but if they don't have a great goat or if the team doesn't get along with their coats they're most likely going to lose. And that's what happened to greece. When greece decided that they had enough that they wanted to change things and they hire on coats. Everything started to change everything you know. Starting to make sense that plays are the police to play better The place where you know started working. These are scoring goals. There supervising the wool and e or things to auto. Because he he came to the grease change. Things of he was able to change Team that was never a winning team into it. Seems that not only shocked the war because they did we need at european championships after losing every game During a world cup is not only shocking. It's he has to do also to spirit on the fact that they believe in themselves They believe in their coats. They believe in their players and they believe they win it so they came from nod wynonna sink of the workup to one the european term. Which is something. Nunnelee almost unbelievable but it also greer embryo racing the blaze hot aleksei over these new coast. They had You know different opinions but said that the first thing that the new german goats told them it's that they hot to boot. The national team team i. They had to work together to make a great team and to make them believe they could win. After losing so bad in the world cup day start train hard and they started to prove everyone that they could win and india qualifying for the european tournament into for everyone was like the in by gauche impressive. Greece did not use for fifteen games. They wanted in spain on their Rehoboth guidance they destroyed to placing portable annella. Along the way they develop Incredible spirit passion to for the non tournament but also the the sport they fell in love with soccer again. I would have to like. I would like to say that you know that. Not having a winning team is it's hard on. Sometimes it makes you fall out of lotto on its common and is typical and it's normal because no one likes to lose but the coach would everyone to get on these to win. It's like the players became different people. They became a game they fell in. Love is soccer game and davey come passionately again. They became strong fears. Powerful like david came a new team on new year's on the shock the world which is something amazing they loved. That feces said that the team fell more like a family type of it was not one of these national teams. We've fifty five players. We got twenty or circle. Where always in the squad. The most important thing for players. It's feeling like a family on greece. Feel feces said dot. The team were really coast On they will sacrifice everything for each other. That's that's something really important becoming a formula legal means someone that you can trust Getting close to someone that you can trust on the beach on the Union during a game that you can communicate with maybe even looking at each other or they can you. Can you know create plays out of nowhere or you can pass the ball and knowing that the other people it's gonna run and grab like running with the board or trust in your teammates. It's something really for greece. It did not happen until the new go-to rif which is actually pretty believable. Because they did not win and sometimes it doesn't matter how wing in how good you are soccer if you don't treasure teammates or if you have no faith on your team gear marshallese going to lose having faith not only on yourself and your teammates. It's it's something that must happen soccer. Maybe even like. I believe like in every single sport like basketball. You'll cut to trust your team that when you throw the ball. They are going to be there to gravity if you miss day or same thing with soccer like do you have to have someone next to you. That is supporting you. That is to for you. It's like there to make sure that you have no doubt yourself. That's the most amazing thing about soaker. Another member of the team. Bussey it to artists. I think that's how you pronounce his last name. I honestly phanom sorry. He also agreed with Feces he said that they were all equals. Together they were connected. Any was unique. It was the first thing that they ever experienced. That connection dot trust on each what they made them wins by the good from in qualifying gnawed lead to any delusions of grandeur as you as the european jumpings even to have for uproot simply being there was almost enough on. Was that being Getting the chance to qualify for tournament. Because we won't games if it was such an achievement for greece. And they were you as they liked to. I think they like to joke about. It's almost like you know we're already here. It doesn't Everything that happen but no one wants that. Everyone wants to be after all. They finally our failure to qualify for this. Summer's edition suggest the national that. He's still by no means a fixture at soccer's grinch so cases the target. This was to win. A game said One of the players from from greece He it's your status. Was i left side midfielder. Who would be used as an nbc sir. throughout the finals. He said you're just want one speakers. Wanted to win one game to prove that they were better than they were during the workup. And you don't even decide who got gone to their workup cup. Ninety nine four had no manage to beat aim anyone. They could not beat anyone and they use wanted to arrive at the european and at least wing white game which is such a sad thing to say. Because you know they don't didn't trust themselves dot matz on the his word to win one game which is kind of saudi. You asked me for you guys. That don't know how i work. Weans you are divided in teams of For for teams. I think found on You're very i'm sorry. Anini grew for teams. So greece was with spain russia portugal and they were really nervous. 'cause to classified to the next round you have to win to get at least second place so like in every other tournament you get points and if you do get three points if you die you get one so it is important to qualified so greece was really nervous. Actually and they wanted to They wanted to qualified so when they beat portugal in their first game at the tournament failed release. They felt like they were there. Uh to win on the they were there to prove everyone wrong and to prove that you are. They could do it. I think it's really girl called that just for one game. They felt that they were free. After we just one game days how. I think it's awesome to think that you know the pressure was gone. And i think that's how you know. They became the winner of the terming because they have no pressure the already proved that they were good. They end up winning a couple of days before the final greece squad. Gather some cheers together at the turning game and sat down for a team meeting for all that the members of that side described it as a family. It was not retarded conflicts. Obviously there is no familiar spirit. Everyone has agreed miss. Everyone argues. it's normal. But that's what makes a formula even better. The two goalkeepers antonius knickebocker levi's on constantinos kiosks were not in contention when determined star midfielder angelos basinas had been in dispute with the greek f. Eight over bonus payments similar abuse complained to the coats about history mean of specific players And they were specifically unhappy about his strained relationship. We can defeat Defender malysz capsize. Was what they wanted to go to disappointed not to have any industry. What sorry when One of the sokaia players are. He's name was flashing was tiaras was disappointed because he was not include inner teen Eleven during the group states that afternoon though all of their biggest spoke frankly about what they had done what they might not achieve they were talking really openly and they were sharing their feelings and as charta said we tell each other. All of these was the only person that we will get to write history. We know we will never be able to recreate while Hug hopping and they agreed to everything to make sure we did. They did not end up losing the game. When you sit together when your team and you talk openly and user your opinions and your feelings is when you know you you're gonna go far and you're gonna make your country profile relief it's It's crazy to think that team as underdog is grease team as like. They have never won anything like that. Just changing coats became the winners of the european to turnament. I think the days these definitely a good side of the story that you have to believe your team and you have to believe that you can until the coats had arrived at greece. No-one believe in them. I think it's really important to make sure that your team feels like a family and you can trust the chiller on must think is never let people think they're better than you greece Bush there to prove that they were good and they did. They prove everyone in the tournament by winning. And doing this segment. We're going to talk about a wedding. We started talking about the wedding. You know the groom mass leakers. They won the tournament so we were talk about it. Well you know. Feces made it to his wedding. He arriving after winning. And we'll say what's you get. Mary even his teammates arrived there to They're had to taxi through an hour of water. Shot into the air by fire engines as he made sway thunder the runway. Hundreds of thousands of greek people were at the capitol. And they're celebrating but do you know data minded. Because he wanted to get married and he made a promise and he was able to You know get married in a few days later You know pakistan christine. I'm marianne the beach. Boo many and the country's soaker association president turned up to us. Busy is specifically for one night. Only he put the european championship trophy on the table on their wedding night and fee said that they were not the only wedding underbid saturday and there were a few others nearby. All of the people from the other one is wanted to go at conde for taking up and everybody forgot about the bride and groom We had started with three hundred to a game the they were maybe thousand people. That all often celebrating. Because it's really important to think of at the end of the things that everyone can review wrong. You know like everything started yoga as well. We're gonna have signed to celebrate our wedding because we are not gonna win the tournament and at the end. They almost had to cancel the winning because he almost groom almost making after. He arrived with teammates after winning the tournament. You know he had a couple of days to plan everything onto everything together to get married on. Even on their wedding day the cop was there and they were able to celebrate. 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We talk to this for european tournaments soccer tournament where Greece won the game as an underdog i knew was so funny story because one of the players were supposed to get married. We'll get to the gut mary but he was not expecting to be on the final so he'll mos the make it to his own wedding with. It's funny but at the zinc we took our. How changing coaches meant everything for greece on. They were able to believe in themselves on you know created a new game under new team that at the end of the day was would they needed to became Champions on what they did on the end up winning the tournament with shop. The war pre premiums. Now we're gonna talk about another european tournament on these when she joins us in an aide. So it's four later for The people that are not the european terminates every four years. The same thing with workup. So it's usually into an aide. Was the european tournament to the workup named. It doesn't do of us it again. The european tournament on every pretty much every two years. We have a main tournament either. The european tournament or the Work into this underneath another on. The dog actually won the tournament. he was spain on. That was the first time. I have ever seen the european tournament. And i was eight. I was eight on. I was actually not doubt into soccer but my father was so they made me. what's it. what's actually it. Was the race idea ever started learning about the players of the game. The coaches y. You know there. Referees are so important. Why everything basically that you need to know. So we're going to talk with the final goose. I believe that's we're going to talk about the final on The game vs italy because he was so intense They we took a penalty at writing. There were these game also went to penalties and it was super intense. Maybe of you are when the wide these penalty round was so important for spain. Wasn't only because you know they were able to go into the next round. But it was because they have lost against other teams in penalty rooms for the longest time. Everything is studying. Nineteen eighty six lows against belgium. Then in nineteen ninety six lord am versus england. So when they you know going to the penalty rams italy had more chances of winning because elec spain there were actually pretty decent apparent. I'm gonna tell you guys the lineups of both speaking on unseen you guys remember some of these of these names so number one was ckc. Yes and then. So he'll remorse. Cutlass bjork gardeners martina johnke of the bela marko cena under senior staff savvy. Wbz wbf and undertow race with the word the stars and then one of and in italy we had young Yakuza berta christian panucci. Your utility need phobia. Crossover alberto collini. Daniela rossi musi mumber sienese. Simone rota sanel look at luca. Toni similarly please. That started for spain on for. Italy are honestly some of the best players in the world like maybe no right now but they are definitely his of soaker. They are amazing and why the game was so intense. I believe the to this an eight european work tournament was the star of a great team for spain because he did us a dent we won. They won the work up and they also had to Play italy in the future in the next european gentlemen and they have been his bain hot a. He has a history of going to penalties on. It's it's actually pretty intense to what's like i remember watching it. I guess get super nervous. 'cause spain these not divest penalties even if we are able to stop so it's really hard on. Its you know if we all have our good breaker you do not want to play in an important game on. Go into Penalties because again. You really really don't want to play vanities when you can win the gaming ninety minutes. On june twenty. Second of scenario nate each alienist spain would For quarterfinal in the european german of to the snake began. End up End up a draw after one hundred twenty minutes on as a result they had to go to bits which spain won for one is being went on to win the european champions for the second for the tag on jones in a while actually because they won in nineteen ninety south so for spain. The first person that should depend on was wbz. I'm for italy. Grows both made it. In the second one was cathala chiasso made from spain but the rosy ms from can casillas was able to stop the go with. That was the moment that moment. I believe that proved. He was a good cook leaper because he is still not only one but to send made it two from spain and governess eve also made frito-lay giza without Sadly missed from spain Phone was able to stop the penalty. But the natalie also miss because eaker stopped the penalty and at the end father gusts core the fourth two and spain. One dig name. That was such an important game because not on the Spain was able to qualify for the quarterfinals dot. The hot cardinal hopping now while now. I wanna talk to you guys mortar. These goes in spain. Have a long history of being reprinted. So i won't talk about you. Know the competition. I e Espn versus italy in the net segment. But now we are gonna talk about something more interesting something You know that made the tournament. Special would talk about the final of the european judges Into the nate the final was or the hilton was host in vienna austria. Spain defeated germany. One two seater with a third minute goal from fernando torres. These were only the second deming european champions if he that the champions hardwood every month in the states the other teams to do so france in nineteen eighty-four. Spain were also the first team since germany in nineteen ninety six to win the tournament undefeated their one goal margin of victory. It was a fairly dominant performance by spain. But listen more about the game. Let's be more specific. A brilliant thirty third minute goal from streakier fernando torres greece at my -nificant final who scoreline did not reflect the supremacy on the Spiny site the long overdue victory in a major tournament said fencing madrid on all over spain pouring onto the streets for they prepare for nights long celebrations were in red and yellow banners singing by yemeni as everyone knew they will fought hari. Sir yemeni as meal they would for really really hurting being an occasionally turning on the break but they could not match silly. This amazing skills on streets. Interposing of veteran coats gonna steam in the end. Spink hot thirteen shots. On goal to germany's four and seven on doug into yemenis one is that the the stakes which reflected the margin of the Of this paints victory thousands of spanish fans in the Hobble stadium celebrated so gracie unexcited as they would spend his capital captain keeper. Eager to see yes. Hold the european trophy. I loved after receiving it from the wife of president. Missile latini thought long recognized as one of the great silken nations are producing an endless series of fifty players on only previous mayor. Joffe was being debtor in nineteen sixty four their only final seats To the name was the european Tournament final in nineteen eighty four. When they lost to france. Spain speak very worse. Things to hard work was thing. Still of Maybe new teams maybe new players Maybe even like like. I will say because it's really important to not forget that they were lucky at the end of the day for whatever reason they were really good they were really hard that too but you know at the end of the day. They were lucky for certain things and they were able to win the term for the first time in over twenty years they had amazing. Midfielders like savvy under senior stubby. Sivas six farber dress. They way they played they were. We've not even with each other but with the other players it's like they can't communicate with looking at each other and it was so impressive that the german defense was like shock about it and they were unable to stop them which made them a huge advantage during the game the interest in the field not for the final was clear. The germans play stereotypical solid sober. Spaniards played foot- soaker on flair and fantasy. But the difference was so subtle a super striker who had been mostly misfiring in german until the final with just one goal and a barrel load of mrs to his name. He select space. And he's eric end him. He's gold as he raced onto a great through. Ball from savvy dots. It on dense printed wrong defender philip Straits is drizzling to dink deadbolt with. He's right food past advancing. Your keeper gins lichtman and just inside the far post. It was a great goal worth it of a great final on offer. Great chairman tourists said after the game that he was the most important after the workup And he was going to enjoy defines who is going to join the moment on the he that their victory was good for spending his soccer germany as russia before then in the super final worst simply art class throw injured captain. Michael ballack overcame a calif muscle injured to play. He was never able to accent. He's full inference on the mets. He was consulted afterwards with wars of consumers from german chancellor angela merkel as keeping of his loser's medal. Spain skiing one guzzlers quiz afia said nearby in the be apia. Stan cheer the initial team. I wear on their feet to celebrate tourists. Goal after the monster. Dyas punish what. Dan second guy inside the stadium as they sink read spin. Yep i think the most important thing about the tournament was not that spy is being one which obviously yes a hundred percent the spent is funny is big to immense. I lot form spain but one of the things that maybe not let the people know is intended to contain when spain one not only the european title tournament but also that world cup. Spain was a huge crisis like everyone was losing their jobs. Losing money or absolutely struggling on soaker was kind of delays thing that made them male people smile. They were able to smile they with to. What's with their families with their friends. I'm forget about you know bills taxes on. You know even their jobs for a little white when spain. One that you're being tournament. Everyone is paying when obsolete insane. I remember what's in the streets at my at my hometown. Like full of sponge. Flags full of screams full of happiness. And that was the first time in a while that i ever seen a spain as our country come together and cheer for their team. It's so siebel at the end of the day on so hard at the same time. The you know to do one believe that your country's united you wanna feel that you know you guys are working for the same thing that you on everyone wants what's best for the country but sometimes you do realize that not everyone sit on every some people are selfish. You know they don't get out with other people. That's why dive game that to this named final game besser germany not only was the start to the start point of maybe i of spain. The difference on the hope that spain as a country knitted to get out of the crisis. Even if you know again into the dan we were still the democracy whistler. Everyone was you know struggling but having your favorite team of none of got your team from your country lucky are representing your country but they wayne the tournament and they proof that they are good for the first time in more than fifty years It's it's not only bad but they did not lose a single game. They were undefeated the whole german. Dari something really weird on unique that it's like why spain may history recycle niche was. Well he suddenly bust away a couple of years ago but he was the coast of spain. Needed to wait. It was the code that in bended kind not invented the ticket daca dot. Its way of plane that it's like you know personable between police as fast as you can. I'm trying to communicate with your Your teammates Dow was the has been the maybe the main thing about spain in soccer tiki taka. It's it's something. I'm gonna be honest with you guys. It doesn't work anymore because everyone has learn how to stop it but indian to donate unto doesn't thin Tournaments of woke up on your being tournament. No one knew what he was a no one could stop it on their spain's victory. Big three's victories proved that proved that they invented a new way of playing soccer. They invented a new way of communicating. Maybe with your players. It is true that the for me that team that play in the european tournament. I mean workup into the same. And then it's the best team the Ever play for spain. I see right now. I think they're still good. I think they are incredible talent that they having. Kurt will tell the people. But the team that i grew up with the team that i remember what the first thing i'm falling in love with it spoor was absolutely. I'm beautiful. lakey was. I wanted to say they were like a focus. Obviously they lost some games but they way they play the way they were a family. Believe and it's funny to think that there were so many people is that there's so many players that they were be played for real madrid. This great for us so During the laliga they are rivals. A big into each other but when spain comes as a team they join forces they forget about with hopkins in all the games on they start playing together on many many players have said that when you start playing for. Spain is the gulf your individual teams. It doesn't happen. You know the games what modest explained together and try to win games Germany spain was the first time i have ever seen spain home country together to celebrate their team a deliberate a battery. It was the first time that i failed. Law the law off of Soaker i've it was the first time i ever realized how important circuit from for spain Before that game. I knew it was coming and i knew something that people really like ann enjoyed but it wasn't a deal. Spain won the game that i realized that this is more than an entertainment. These are way of uniting our country. Any happening getting to the senate if you go to any bar of in spain and he actually need anywhere you are probably gonna be. What's there. you're gonna abroad Chains towards the game which is absolutely incredible. And i love it I think spain has made it clear that they are good to the neighbors. Three the beginning of anura sober for spain. And i think it's it's ruid great to remember these specific games that you know started being something important for a team and for our country in the next segment like i told you guys aren't going to kind of talk about the rivalry between italy and spain Because they have been playing together for many many years and sometimes he has gone one way answer. They has gone the other way but the friendship. And they're very they have. I think it's one of the most Filthy briberies actually goes you know. It is true that they played to the end of the day. They have mainly respect for one another and does what makes that competition the diary interesting amazing to watch so that doco at these domestic men tired of searching the vast jungle of podcasts. Now listen close and here this out. There's a podcast network that covers just about everything that you've been searching. 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We are going to talk about the rivalry between italy and spain. Because i don't know if you has not these but they have been rivals for really really long time but garoppolo's the i feel like they have the guidance bribery that they respect each other and they love playing with each other and the games are usually so excited so competitive and so cheerful and amazing that it's it's amazing to see a competition that it's everything is out of respect so everything started a while ago. Actually eat everything is studying ninety. Ninety four were spain. God eliminated. It was knocked out of the workup by easily. Things to robert to by his eighty. Eight miracle under free sunder pool not seeing more. Sony elbowing the real madrid for one in the penalty area. If you as someone from spain they would probably tell you that it was clear penalty and the referee suit of cnn and pseudo Obviously called the penalty so spain would have a change of tiny game or winning the game. But if you are someone from italy he or she will probably tell you that if the referee didn't see the full in never happen and that's a reality soccer sometimes referees. Don't see everything that's going on the pitch. So there are a bunch of fault that they used they never. They're never call 'cause obviously they. They things happen on the free doesn't see it under call it that it's like never happen saad lead. That's a daily thing you know. The referee cannot be at everythi nonstop. Players use these in their benefits to. May you know do things that they shouldn't do. But you know most of the players are like good and they play for united ninety four. Obviously it was a longtime ago Under referees were other people. The rules were not strict out there. Right now In the in days game apparently the referee did not want to see the fault. He kind of like turns his head and knock lights in never happened giving italy the win even italy. The victory heavier clement. they was the manager During the night for Tournament a world cup on. He said the same thing that i said that they're referee not only didn't do his job but he act like he key. Kennewick didn't want to see the full making kind of point that there were pretty easily to win. We are never going to know does through or if that even acura role. It's not accurate on you are always like drifts are obviously not perfect on these right. He owes his said. The referee made me. The referee made a mistake and he hosted will none mistake exacly. He didn't want to keep up penalty. He so he was close enough. He could see the blood everywhere. But it was uninformed enable season to give uncomfortable decision to give. It was easily. They were powerful. They film stadium. They feel stadiums are from the us. No-one background like them. They were allowed to feed talion immigrants in the us. Fifty thousand italians there that day. He was scared that was a home game and recovery. Drifts are in so brief against his. That's what Clement is said to the media the point that he made about referee's not making colds when they the team was playing home. It's actually pretty accurate. Good it's been proved during recent years under the games that when Gamy split home and most of the audience east from dod place. It's hard to call A full against that team gets the home team. It's really hard until sometimes referees preferred to not make the call the audience. happy Even if they end up looking bad 'cause it's not it's not easy to be a referee like it's never never see especially in soaker 'cause all like you have like fifty thousand plus is on you on you wanna make the right call by upset the audience or the players so you have to think on think on think before you called a penalty for example in this case unlike The said adopt moment. The referee decided that he was not going to be brave and he was going to Give the victory to a home team. Which i mean. Obviously it's not a first thing to do but at the end of the day does what it is on. No one's going to change when the video was analysed. Desolated receive eight-game bam but he was too late so the bdo was analyzed The game hopping on the of that committed the full. Does he threw an elbow in spanish. Player you kind of broke his nose. He was banned for playing eight games but he was rudy was late already. Cost the already one so the at the end of the day even if the video was at the game on you know he the play receive punishment. Spain did not receive like justice list. Would because no one changed that result. Clements said that there was a leave that they could reach their work. Final year on. Instead they were the core finer states it was easily who face brazil in the rose bowl. Eight days later by wittstein. Spain hut gone. You know being what's really gone because The emits through remain. They commit anura just isn't aid. Mica open on aloe side. The headline italy discussing being forgotten. I think this is really funny. Actually because mike and newspapers newspaper from spain Five known mistaken and when europe europe Tournament happening to the name. When italy and spain were plane They decided that the headline was gonna be the ninety ninety four game where the player it's obviously heard on you know there's like blood coming out of his nose and the you know the refreeze not looking under the blade is like i you knew anything and they decided to use that settling us. We have not forgotten what happened We could play our best to beat you. I think that's so it's hard to do. Actually not everyone would have come up with that. Not everyone would have done like ninety nine hundred listen to eight. That's a wild that had two long time ago it's like more than ten years of fourteen years If i'm not mistaken i could be mistaken So it's just crazy to even think that someone would have done dod like he just he bruised. proof that spain never forgets about these things telling you from someone that is from spain. We don't forget we never got into this. When spain won the game against italy the in the european tournament it was the first time that italy has like spain. hut knocked out That sorry it was the first. I'm easily had ever been knocked out of tournament by spain And he was not just the three was kind of reminder that you know we do after what you guys did to us in ninety four which is crazy to think that you know. It's definitely a while but again. Spain us forget Fernando torres call it. The moment we won the euro's spain's first in four five four four years The us meaning. You're being tournament on when spain wanting to me it was the first forty four year so it was a big big deal for years later in two thousand twelve Spain began rigby as being became world. Champion dane On into the two of the european tournament hubbing again The opponents in the final was easily. The year after spain again beat them going through penalties in front on the confidential cups cup so spraying doug moment into toronto had been beating italy for a while now and the they had to face each other in the final of the european cup after italianised. Pain were You know put it in the groups. Spain hudson's to knock italy out of the european tournament in of such twelve at the group states eve they do to to with croatia. This is when the fund kind of starts caused markelle remember. The newspapers for news from spain decided to publish the same picture of the blooded Of the player that with the no the runny nose Blood over his face an everything of ninety ninety four but this time they were different. You were don't worry italy. we don't hold a grudge. This headline pretty mad said spain. You know it's above easily in every sense. Goes you know they beat them into a. They beat them. They been the one they work up into ten and now they have the change of getting rid of italy on. You know they're going to do it with its pre crazy to think that you know after all of those years spent keep thinking about it but again we bree Spain needs likes to win. Let's put it up on me. Doesn't like to lose in the final at the olympic stadium in gifts. Spain defeated easily fourth. Zero for leslie. Theon there was a place. Seema's three to eight the most successful Game of all it was d- players that play in the final of the europe tournament within twelve was more successful era in international soccer. He still opening and closing with their rivals. You what in. Sometimes percent that as an ideological battle it was seem to info for style as a victory embarrassed. They met they meet again. Italy had not worn. Since is your so 'cause montiel darmian. He said i was the two thousand twelve fire on television. Anita east one of the worst moments i remember. I hope we can take romance. Matre dharma was I don't if he saw soccer play for italy or coats. But i remember what's in the four zero at night. I mean honestly. Enjoy so much. Because i'm from spain but could see the faces of every italian in at the stadium on. I could see that date faded every sick of it and it's really sad on the final losing four zero. It's it's that's devastating And i honestly feel really bad for italy because they have amazing amazing players and they have been good for many many years but in dr specific game was Just it was impossible to stop them. i remember seeing the game and the way the blaze were talking to each other. Creating place You know bussing the ball everything. It was just fantastic. It was amazing to what it was so it was so entertaining on so it was like a incredible to. What's it like you were against. No one at the end of the day like delhi could not did have any defense and they don't have any often so spain obviously had defense and offense. So what did they do. Obviously for against like. There's no reason why they should not Been scoring more goals but they decided that you know out of respect. Their coast were pretty much enough on that. Does i think that was pretty beautiful. Course at the end when they scored like than goal number three and four number three wars. I don't remember eve- number three was Ferdinando race or mata but were both in number. three number. four was I think the first one was my Doris on the number for was mother on they. Both like on of didn't celebrate. The goal was respectful way. Which i actually think it's really cool berlin. Many people will appreciate it that you know you're winning by allowed. Dongo chrissy seems that game. Italian is spain happily before doesn't sixteen easily beat spain in the final of the european tournament. Two zero there has been a lot of i. Guess controversies to about who responded who is worst gore salit off beeper from coaches from actually think that spain has chains and it's not powerful enough and it's not us competitive as he was into this in Twelve hundred eight to contain and they have no chances of beating italy when The los que when he were still go to spain he into in sixteen. He said that he did not think that they were worse than italy. And they were. Both teams really powerful. And really you know. They both had changes of winning. But he did not agree They were training bihar on honestly. Their final goal was to beat spain. And they did. They did in the final day. Beat them On they end up winning the tournament. It's you know. Be congratulations to them because they truly the safety playing on a mason tournament Italy and spain caused being would be yup. They are they been rivals. The arrival said they will be rivals for ages decades. I hope so. Actually 'cause what team. Spain on italy it's kind of similar was so different at the same time because you think that many of the players that play for italy to play for spain they have played together before i see you know part of their teams. Sometimes they know how they play the know create plays. They know how to everything you know. They they know their rivals because they were. They are their teammates at some point during the regular season. That is one thing that i love soccer. It's like people can be your teammate. For whatever amount of time but it can also be your rival when you play for your country and you know you need to forget about you. Know how much you like him. Muhammed's you like playing with him And then focused on. I need to beat him. 'cause i want my team to win. It's like it's stressful. I will say like i would personally. I think he will be hard for me to play against my friends Because you know they're your friend you trust them but at the end of the day you have to think that it's better for your team on. You need to stop friendship that first. The second you buddha step into the page you though having friends said they are not your teammates on you need to focus on the game. Spain uneasily Hadi's i guess way of plane way of talking that ulta people think that. Oh they're really similar Not only the way they play the talk the on it's true but at the same time their rivals for a recent everything started in ninety ninety four and it took spain for four years to finally italy to the internet. And you know the beat them again into the sin twelve on. If i'm not mistaken they also had a couple other Ranch of penalties during a confederation cup where spain in the winning so it is true that the most recent game italy beat spain. But in the long way if you see this that these stakes spain custody eat salih more than italy. Spain it is when italy beat spain in ninety four it was actually pretty unfort- but we're not gonna go there. But i think italy spain east one of the most amazing games not only two words but to pay attention to it and study unlearn. So if you guys ever wanna. What's in soccer game. I will recommend what seen as bainbridge pursues easily because they are so competitive and so great that they make you love soccer even more in the next segment we are going to keep talking about spineta. Liam we're gonna talk some of the most entertaining an amazing games that they play on we. So we're gonna talk about some of the biggest rivalries between teams in soccer wall. So stay tuned this is your alternate stopper. Everything sports the golden state media concepts or podcast. Should i say more from the nfl. Mlb the nba mma. It's all in here. Golden state media concepts sports podcast. Listen to the. Smc soaker put gas before the commercial. We talk about the rivalry between spain and easily. That it's been going on for decades and to be more accurate it's been going on since ninety ninety four And if you guys remember it was because The referee didn't call a penalty. Obviously that it was clear penalty in favor of spain but the he then anita lee up gain on an aide. Spain beat the easily in the Europe europe Tournament on they end up winning the tournament and also into twelve. They beat italy for two zero in the final of the european tournament. Again which it's great. Seek to think that a team has been both teams has been pretty much rivals. France at the same time for over a decade more than the rivalry. I think that the most important thing about both both teams ease the respect that they have for each other. They know they are good. They know they that every time they played. It's going to be a good game on recent data. Does that you know they are both competitive. They're good on at the end of the day like it's always a really enjoyable game when you know two teams one a win. No matter what again now. I wanna talk about five. Memorable much is five. More games spain's easily and after that we're gonna talk about some of the some of the most famous rivalries between teams. Let's say you wouldn't be doing. Players spammers easily is more than a soccer rivalry eats at crest of two nations with prowess pouring on kotra traditions. Play around the beach. It's let's let's say saying like pi. Pi versus pasta coastal sober suits the amalfi coast blasphemy. Your versus becerra be bona because so versus the binchy gum. No bishop zero senior staff versus disputable. Those are some of examples that it is. spain versus. Italy eats coach jerry cans culture food against food best players again versus best players. It's such an amazing rivalry that it's it takes everything from each country and put them like against each other with you. Know there's none of by your past that we love both but obviously one is more common in one country in the other but it doesn't mean anything is just such an amazing bribery. That sometimes it's funny to think about how much people think italy brazil spain other. Ab other just like like to compete against each other. Which is true but sometimes it's funny. This serious could not be more not be more even between the two european heavy weights. Both countries have eight wins. Eleven dollars a droughts and a lucy's in twenty seven all-time meetings on what it allows us to both serious. Spain casa served itself in recent years. Okay so now. Listed governs zone the Competitive games nine hundred thirty four. Workup easily lifted the workup for the first time of four times in nineteen thirty four on home soil. But the assuring by mark halperin the crown if not for a few controversial decisions going their way in the quarterfinals against spain. The team spot to a one won't draw influence in a game that couldn't be decided even with two extra time periods instead of going to penalty. Schott dog the day. rick recombining the next day. Stadio yovany versa. To play another much which is gracie has never been on the usually soon hopping at all. I guess it's because he was thinking thirty four and they decided he was ability idea to play the game step of going to penalties. But this it's not only crazy but it's sort normal. I don't even thing it's good to play another game the next day against but again. Both teams Juggle their starting lineups. Eat may five th spain seven for. Were you sip matt's goal inde- twelve minutes stood up as the winner. Spain fell grief after having legitimate government in both games this allowed by the referee meaning that the referee decided that the call was not valid for whatever reason leading to these led to speculations that benito mussolini fix the results for his beloved again. It was really controversial. Time period of time in soccer history More cellini was in charge. I will not be surprised if he did something to make sure that he does like the name that it was italy's team name Wing the tournament at the end of the day was some very against For spain because they were. Do you know the score goals but the referee decided that those goals were not gonna count on the result of the game. Which again there was nothing to do with. the referee. says one thing does what is going to be europe. Tournament of nineteen eighty eight is spain. Italy found themselves in the group of dead at euro. Eighty eight group together with horse. Was germany an dinners denmark. The i was rather dull affair with a nineteen year. Old paolo maldini marking real madrid attacker. Michelle gonzalez mitchell mick. Middle out of the game. The dalliance came alive in the second half and began to back. Dispensers italy's attack flow through think comparable yalu kabealo. Who made a dozen run down the left only to bowl his team. Why of name net. But in the seventy third minute bialy decided to a decided. They monitor with brilliant f for italy. Worked the done. The left channel on alexandra totally dmed over carbon chiloe. This clever allah. We need run to bayali who slot allows shot home pass keeper. Underneath a italy went on to advance from the group onto the semifinal. Sports pain went home early A ninety ninety eight against spain going home so early in the european termine was so painful. To what i obviously did not whatever i remember. My parents told me that he has been Until two this nominate spain was not a competitive team. They were never up there and they were never as good. So the teams like easily like we said like we see ninety eight italy Proof that the teams were working together under players were connected in place and they end up scoring a goal in the mid seventy three. It's fair he was an absolutely for Game on no quitnow kiss. No point of saying that. It wasn't italy spirit than spain and they proved that they deserve to win nine hundred ninety four world cup. If you guys remember we talk a couple of these in the last segment by. We're going to kind of talk more about it right now. These lost to easily. More than any other wrinkles the most with spinners the quarterfinal meeting in boston was a bright attacking affair with dino baio scoring on magnificant longer in short in the twenty five fifth minute to give each elite elite things. Turn ugly So things turn ugly pretty quickly early in the second. Half when it in defender. More tassotti brogden of spanish for what loosen ricky inside the penalty. Books had the referee sport. It will have resulted in spanish. Lot of possibly the story's been red-carded if you guys remember if played this red-carded they have to leave the game. They under team plays with one less. Meaning that the other team will have an advantage. It's a no one wants to. It's like getting red carded east divorcing second husband to a soak here instead that saudi avoided punishment on roberto baggio is score with two minutes left in the game to italy a two one win on a spot in the semifinals. To this day. Spanish funds still feel just these were not serve and that if italy was correctly punished the lateral. How have won the game. We took these in the last segment. I agree with that italy of being punished. If you broke someone's nose that is so illegal it solely will. I cannot even start saying like it's you don dine silk like it could. It can be an accident happens. Sometimes you jump and then you don't know your arms going one way on your body goes the other way and you hit someone dot can happen and it can be an accident. This specific sample was not an accident like it was just it clear that he wanted to stop the player and the only way he thought about it was breaking the nose His nose with anyways Again spain does not forget easily. An obviously doesn't forgive it. Europe of tournus eight fourteen years later at the european tournament of enemy. Does this action on endor. Get reminded an open one in the build up to the italy. Spain quarterfinals in vienna. The front page of spanish sports daily marca feature. They felt like italy. This cannot be forgotten like we're sitting in the last segment. Markelle was a newspaper that obviously wanted to create a rivalry more than you wanted to start again. The and they wanted to make sure that you know italy. Forget that you know. It was for gaming ninety ninety four but again it's A way of creating also a rivalry and creating more fans to go to the game. It's like a policy to stand. I will. I will use it so they talent press also stuck the faris white pointing out. Spain's hidden competitive against italian seems to the nineteen twenties olympics. True true it was a for show like you know if spain tried to make it a little bird on italy was not going allowed that so they created Newspaper on the pretty much point out that spain is not good on was never going to be good enough to be easily which again not good. Because thanks to eka gonzaga's spain's goalkeeper. Spain finally got the beira fatally Prevailing in a dramatic penalty shutout at Draw for ninety minutes of regulation and thirty minutes of extending. These was the birth of the sponge times by exercising its italian stemmons lleras level as our is paving. Wait for them to win. The euro europe tournament. nate to the The to the intern woke up on the europe tournament. Assistant twelve tizard of europe tournament. Spain left no doubts as to its global dominance. We founded beth fertig for to see a win over italy in the final in kith. Lateral hot ran. The suicide rates in of the most lopsided mayor tournament's finals on record it bail in comparison to the group states including poland us three nine hundred in one to draw that was easily demands of the tournament If you guys know these eats Before the play the final playoff games on deeply in on the game ended up being one to one because they were still competitive on the game is score was tied that none of them could score more than one goal so every once said that the final was going to be like that. Everyone thought the final european tournaments isn't twelve was going to be you know a last minute goal or like a penalty again pronounces again but you know things to on the no good work or luck. Spain definitely the proof that they were better chart adat specific game spain. Surprise me by you've seen are false nine formation with no recognised strikes in its lineup with this far agus blame between debuted civil unrest. I think nicole contest really came to life in the sixty. First minute when donating natalie who plays mario volutarily. Five minutes earlier collected us from under his pillow as he is lee between two defenders and then beat spain goalkeeper echo casillas with a low shot. Italy was in the s- tendency but it was sorely three minutes after natalie. Strikes paint put together stunning parsons sequence that congruent with an equaliser from fabricates yup i guess the spray non italy have always been competitive and you know these games. Proof that okay. Not we're gonna talk about some of the most common rivalries in soccer the first one. Sec it classical. Spain as in spain. I need food book with the differs. Much was in one thousand nine hundred On scene right now but hundred elites one fifteen weans to one zero one wins which is one of the most exciting interesting the wall if soccer and he's contested between the two giants of spanish soccer real madrid. They gave me seen by meals. Were one us. Both clubs have a massive global families. This is true plessey go. it's you can see it around the wall and it's been going on for for years and years and it's one of the most exciting things in the wool. The northwesterly e. happens in england and it's the liverpool football club against the monster. United in the first month was in eighteen. Ninety four on its in right now. Went to united leads. the The game they won more games than liverpool regarded as one of the greatest rivalries seeming soaker northwest derby is one of the most passionate sporting events in the world. Play between wolves muss united unlivable. This game cease two of the most successful clubs in england. Fight it out. Both clues have won a total of one hundred and thirty seven trophies which is not only chrissy pretty brilliant. Okay the monster derby manchester city against manchester united. I mart was in eighteen. Eighty one and much let's In wins the monster. We display to longtime cd rivals. Manchester united manchester cd. This fixture Fixtures attack large crowds and these there begins mattis. Marta see the change to outside more proper rival. It also gives matzos united states to show off some of the best english players to compete in the sport through. There'd be d'italia me talia uneasy. The inter milan precious went to the first month was in nineteen zero nine unrine. Now you enter swings leads in wins. The derby. d'italia is an intense rivalry between two dozen giants. The inner the milan under yuban twos like many other madison d'italia series a these resource entertaining both and bad ways. These marches have seen so controversial events such as a game in one thousand nine hundred sixty nine hundred sixty one system somewhat the inter. Milan hot their win. Overturn their rivalry increasing to season six. When a months fixing skin those trip you of the siri eight title For cdn If you guys. I think took over these fire puskas so the human seated and they were you know. They went from zero eight gb which no one was on. The title was awarded to inter milan. Their class seeker clue folklore. By the money's borusia durman any hopkinson germany. Their first month was in nineteen. Sixty five on right now by. The more needs wins. Listen winds. they'll classical is one of the biggest rivalries in german soccer. It is played to two of the most successful clubs in germany by the morning on borussia. Dortmund these robbery grew up in the nineties when dormant rose to prominence as they won't back to back Bundles titles in the a one thousand nine hundred ninety nine hundred ninety six season and they had two studies by the glove as they run it up with. No one wants to run it up the north london derby honesty arsenal clubs and Food club and i month was in nineteen o nine on right now. The arsenal wins the north london. Derby split between the two. 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135: Ivan Capelli on performing heroics as an underdog and living a Ferrari nightmare

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135: Ivan Capelli on performing heroics as an underdog and living a Ferrari nightmare

"Italian rival to become a ferrari driver dream of the life. My life changed completely. Hello everyone and welcome to be on the great with me. Tom clocks my guest. This week is a driver who had his day of days at the french grand prix. Back in one thousand nine hundred ninety. He finished second in the underdog. Leyton house march having led local hero alan processed for much of the race so as the f one circus decamped to the very same paul ricard circuit this week. It seemed like the perfect time to relive it with my guest van. Cappelli brilliantly fast racing driver he dominated the junior categories of the sports becoming a champion in formula three and formula three thousand and he achieved amazing feats informal one as well predominantly. He drove for small. low budget. teams taking three podiums. I'm what should have been the highlight of his formula. One career when he raced ferrari turned out to be his biggest nightmare. The ninety two was very uncompetitive and event. Didn't see out the one thousand nine hundred two season with the team. He's no longer involved in f one events still incredibly passionate about it and he remains a very astute observer of the sports in this chat. He's very open about the highs and lows of his career and gives incredible insights into what it was like to work with the likes of cantorial adrian and john alesi if an is one of the most engaging characters. You could be lucky enough to meet. I hope you enjoy our conversation. It is wonderful to have you on the show. Thank you for your time. How i am. What's going on. Well i now in switzerland scenes two years. I actually following different project. That far away from the motorsport. Because i mean factor that is producing instrumental for medical stuff basically for the bladder group roping and i'm managing factory with forty people so i'm involved in. This new project is quite interesting. Even if obviously i'm steve following for one motorbikes rally everything because i miss a lot missing a lot anyway the paddock well. I hope you're going to enjoy talking about formula one with us this weekend. Is the french grand prix. So i thought where's a good place to start with the van. Why don't we talk about the nine thousand nine hundred ninety french-grown pre at paul ricard if finished second having led alum processed for much of the race. Still i. it's the guys who has until he against the guy he is. That's supposed to cut that. I for the bad pinza thankful prayed something to be proud on his second competitive cost the lives with the right behind it. Would you say that was your greatest rate. Yeah absolutely was the greatest race of later house team and was also sliding doors probably because With the second place we could manage to realize the best result of the season. But probably i miss my only victorian formula one. They could change completely my my career. Maybe i don't know but it was a crucial time in nine. Hundred ninety probably. Yeah i must say that was my sliding doors of my life. Yes let's talk about the performance of the calf come onto the other opportunities in a bit but were you surprised by the pace of the car that we can because people may not know that you hadn't qualified for the previous race in mexico. We came home without racing and that was really painful. And then in borokai we found a completed defensor situation with a very flat sip-it in comparison to mexico. Our car was the dan responding as well with downforce we also managed to make we made a little change in the fuser at the back coping. Little bit the of the williams team and the gustav brunner was the technical director of team. At the time we managed to start from friday to work man to to to actually to find a solution and setup not to change the dies during the race and we focused on that since friday morning even in the on on the starting rate was fighting with With gustav because he was Pushing me to change a little bit different wing again. The ira balance and then we managed to split the arab balance into pieces in the outside for him inside for me and then we have not destroyed through and then we start like this. I mean knowing that we were focusing on expecting the artist to to stop and to change the tires and then to start the push for this reason. We had this kind of race because We had completed defense strategy. Why were you so convinced that not stopping with the way forward because we found a very good balance because we managed to approach senior corner for example lifting up a little bit the guess throttle not going through completely in the corner and to save a lot of the leftovers and as well in liberal saying the double right corner of the scene and because basically we found a very Very good ira balance with the downforce and very little rings that we use. The guy was very quick on the street and not the putting so much pressure on the dies actually very very well because in the big part of the race we were first and second with maury said fighting with the land. It was a good google situation for the team. Obviously then maurice the problem with the engine. And i saw this car. That was obviously part. The on the on the straight line with smoke coming out from the cover engine and so i was really worried about my engine. Obviously and the then he could cognition very very little bitty small time he was a after a few laps. It was just behind me and start to try to retake me in for the end of the state line. But let's say mid race overlook a curb. I lost my eric mirrors. So i couldn't see him so we're all the time it was actually trying to overtake me. I was closing the door and and then he was afraid because it was busy fighting for the championship. The points were more important than me. For this reason he was Not not trying to take me there anymore and then you took me just the two left to the end. When the engine problem he must be thinking. This guy capelli's a bit aggressive. Yes i think so. I think so yes. So what did i say to you on the podium. Not much actually. He was obviously very happy. Because escora a win and the same time The hundreds wins for ferrari in the history. So he was a very proud of this obviously and It was just Spanish by our performance. Because remember very well as that. We were not qualified in mexico but it was a an a guy a nice moment. I've been or being on the on the on the rostrum with alain prost and in the third place fantastic now you say it was your sliding doors moment. Even finishing second did any opportunities present themselves immediately after that. Not really actually. Can i put it to you. That the reason flavio briatore got in touch with you after alexandra. Anini injured himself in. That helicopter accident was because of that performance. Is that fair. We might say that the is like this story because it's true that in one thousand nine hundred ninety eight. I scored the seacombe position in portugal. Again with Lane in front of one race. And third was terry wilson day nineteen thousand nine hundred very critical season because the car was not really perform performing a not even closer to the nineteen eighty eight so in one thousand nine hundred ninety we were still fighting and then because as we say that we had a non-qualified in mexico there is before so that the former probably put me again on the on the table of a door and in these lists. Let's say of drivers that Could manage to join the benetton team while we're talking about flavio. Can you tell us the story what happened with that. Benetton see at the end of nineteen ninety. So johnnie injures himself and how soon after that briatore on the telephone to you i was. I was actually in my parents house. And i arrived actually at my parents house and my mom said immediately immediately to me that she listened on on the tv that alexander had an accident and they said to look. There are no test today. The how can listen the next update accident and then i needed a switch on the television show and they followed all the news and then this was a around the falker cooking afternoon at seven. Seven o'clock or even early probably six thirty. I was still in my parents house. Receive a phone call directly there from tori. And the first thing today asked to grotto's alexandra how is condition and told me i am in the car. I'm going to george kittle and they will discover this in a few moments and so on. But what are you doing the japan pre and say. What do you mean say. Would you like to drive for us. And say look. But you don't know even how he's a alexandra and you say to alexander is not going to drive it obviously but would you like to have not and they say look. I say just a week ago to akira. Akagi data we continue in nineteen one. For the later. Now's the season and and i give my my my worst coggin and then you say the so. What's the vision. Say look at the moment. I asked to say that. Because i have to talk to her anyway to find out. How is the situation. And then they didn't say a lot. I mean you just the close the communication and and they found out that somebody else joined the team dependent on deeming suzuka. It was a morano. Roberto roberto duran so. Flavio wanted an answer from in that. Same phone call absolutely. He didn't give me any any chance to say. Look maybe we can talk tomorrow or it was a bush me really do to have a an answer immediately. You mention akira akagi. Who was the money man behind march and did so much for your career will come onto him in a minute but deer regret not taking that benneton seat because of course merano took it. He finished on the podium in japan. E then the benetton ride for the whole of ninety one or until shumek. It came along but could have been different for you. Couldn't it. oh yes looking. At the days. I could have been completely different. That's for sure. But as i say the before in my entire life when they gave my words i give my words i mean. I'm strict to that. So i state dot guy in monza when racing obviously was sort of a home race for everybody because we had a lot of italian sponsors of friends connected to later now zor and song so when he asked me nine months. Would you like to continue with us as they look. Yes absolutely so i couldn't. I couldn't change my my words. Well done new. You raced for march late in house for five years. Which was the best car you drove for. Sure the one thousand nine hundred eight because the scar that adds a newly designed completely from zero and innovative car. Innovative idea front wing still has a now some Some that are connected to that idea in in. Probably the philosophy how to building a car going to the extreme in all the areas especially the cockpit. Remember he that. I had a twenty five meter diameter for the steering wheel. Twenty five hole in the monocoque basically to went through with my lex no foot rest because we didn't have his base in independence ever foot rest on the left side and The first time that i tested the carry near imola. Even if i had the test in england with the mockup in would wear i could feel plus a comfortable beside the car but the niemoeller when a jumped for the first in the car for the first time like say due to look at the little problem and was tim was the problem said look. Can you see the lever. Say yes i cannot take it used. Because he's actually in the middle of a million. How can i can. I take going to make a softening different now liz. You have to stay in the in the car then. That mechanic went back in the in the garage and that could could hear obviously a funny noise like a hammer that being bound by all on the gear lever and he came back with the gain lieber gear lever bent to the front and they put the back in the car and he said can you now and say yes but you know it's not an easy position. I mean he's very uncomfortable. But don't worry you're going to learn go out and then you can learn how to use it and we went through the season. And you can imagine how to drive this kind of gary monte-carlo for example but we went to all the season like that. Jackie stewart drove that car. I think the following season. And i've seen what he said about it and he said the car was undrivable because the cockpit was too small and he talked about leg cramps and things like that. How did you do a grand prix distance being so uncomfortable because i was a sixty seven kilos didn't have a gram of fat actually and because i was sitting basically on the monaco without the seat and the fact maurice goja mean had Even more problems than than me because it was a little more say larger than my size and had basically more problem but as a audience say that then the season we could easily be used car in and use the career anywhere obviously for us for drivers to experience like a steuer. Jump the inning. That car install in pretending to drive it like you probably remember is a is formula one. That's a good challenges. But did it affect your ability to drive it. Probably particularly towards the end of a grand prix because of fatigue as i said cramp. Yeah we had Several grand prix is where we had problem with the legs especially with the bumpy grand prix having the cockpit so close to the steering wheel. I have all my knock leaning in the indians were completely bleeding because I was actually in contact with the carbon in every corner or even my house was really difficult to drive the car. But i must say that it was so enjoyable so fast doesn't sound enjoyable meeting that even if we had the one hundred probably one hundred horsepower less than the tool because we were fighting against the tube we were able to manage to follow the other cast to be more competitive and this was The the boost. That was pushing house to drive that car. Even that condition. Adrian was clearly uncompromising this is it guys get on with it in terms of the cup. This is a what you say to us. And i remember very well. The enduring test at the end of the season in balanga enroll. We were still complaining about the car. Saying look for the next step next. God please give us some some more space around the steering wheel or near the legal of the legs and saw any said you are always complaining. Give me your clothing. Give me your advice through diving suits. And then he went to mauricio. Give me your en masse and then jumping into into the car and drove the car the one thousand nine hundred obviously very very slowly. He did the few laps than stopping. Since you see you so i could read the car easily without any problem. Why you're so going containing so much. That's a great story. Very adrian knew what was he liked to work with. What impressed you about. Adrian newey defect that these probably the real only real only genius that there is a in formula one at the moment. I know that now from is completely different there are so many engineers stuff is a hundreds or thousands of people are in comparison to nineteen ninety eight nineteen ninety s basically but iran was the guy that could see that the in some moment here the the idea that came he needs in all these things that it was Seeing in the car and he's a genius because for an engineer that Was was able to win with the williams with the mercedes with red bull showing that the only places when he went he had the opportunity to to win races wing championship. And he's still on and it's still on talk after so many years and did he race engineer. You sometimes not always because you will always when the bec because we had two different racing giannis in a little house and it was coordinating more. The the work remember that in in the nineties were still fighting against Things that now probably are not more Problem in formula one overeating because we were our Worth too small or in some grand prix like brazil Or in other places very hard to i could listen a neighbor what listens mechanics are working to reduce the body work to open some anaka. Dr so and i mean now. These kinds of one is not is not anymore in the paddock. But in that time sometimes to to find solution ed desert. And i've i've heard some drivers say that joy of working with adrian. Is that in him. You're with a man who wants to win as much as you do for roche ously competitive. Yes I didn't have the opportunity to feel this kind. The obviously ration- even if it was pushing us very hard. But i must say that for a moment. We had the best combination combination that several years after run some Championship because agean. And mario alien with the more so we had all the ingredients. Let's say we just didn't match the right time before we move on from one thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Can you just describe that summer particularly that string of races when he finished third faith and second in consecutive races. I mean it must have been an incredible experience particularly with the team. That was so small yet was very a family. Atmosphere is what. I really liked in late house team because for the size obviously of the team members that the time were not so big. Like now you're paternity to share dini's with all the all the mechanics or time even in the paddock to share some some moments. The this bush us for example in japan to be relaxed in saw. Let's say easy that we could manage to nearly to score a and the results in japan. Despite the fact that we had a problem that stopped the car. But we were the first gun. Non-durable leading grand prix after the two-year when it was fighting against the i don and alan zucca nineteen eighty eight. And did you enjoy being the david. If you like against the goliath of event and santa rhode island pros. Did you enjoy being the underdog. I like very much to be the underdog because obviously the as there is no pressure. You older there's arriving the welcome in any case and sometimes you can really be even stronger your mind because you can push the limit without risking anything and more important than the championship like other drivers. What about offers. I'm gonna keep talking about all during our chat because that summer of eighty-eight when he had two podiums in three races did the pig teams. Not come knocking. I find it very hard to believe that they didn't know they did. I remember that get baldy. Was the time my manager that follow me from the former free in nineteen eighty-two knowing he knew obviously all fun want manager. We had checked with frank williams in the garage but nothing nothing serious obviously and didn't have the ability to jump. Let's say immediately top team and obviously continue my career with eighteen hours negated and ninety. I didn't have any other opportunity. Say can interesting disappointing to because d fail that you were at the height of your powers in that eighty-eight season. When were you at your pets. yes we can say that around the eighty eight and ninety was the the best best moment of my driving scaling from one when you were driving with the most confidence and here getting the job done. Spent most of your career driving that distinctive. What we call it. Miami blue march didn't you and what people might not know. Is the fascinating story of how you came to raise for them. In the first place it all goes back to japan right. Yeah there is step before because i. I met mr akagi in imola when it was racing with the formula fifty thousand in nineteen eighty six year that you won the championships because in one thousand nine hundred five competing for thousand. I couldn't participate to the start of the season. Because i was actually in the army in italy so i couldn't national serve. Yeah so i couldn't. I couldn't race in a few races. Nine hundred eighty five and then jumping into the championship or when other pint. If and italy loves its racing drivers there was no dispensation for you to go racing instead of the national service. Plus incredible for the first four months was impossible. And because i started in january i was able to just join the field on may may june. What kind of stuff did you do the national service. We'll come back to your racing career in the minute but what was it like. How hard was it. A was a normal no more national service. Despite the fact that it was all than the other guy so i had the people with me they had the eighteen years old that was actually giving me instruction and there was Twenty two years old twenty. That's the all the the only problem. But what will you do when you having to go and make a camp in the dolomite. So we'll go marching. In time. i spend my my national service muslim with. I mean the last pizza. It is near illegal. Oria near the seat. Geneva near genova. And i stay there for four months and that place was a place where people that arrived spend one month to be prepared for the national service and it didn't move. I stayed there for for four months. And because the people that came couldn't use the basically gun or other things like that i was always involved in What we call the routine work when you when you have to stay and protect the area defense spending all my time. Basically doing that obviously hoping every day to open my made books to receive the letter dispensation. Could you ring your racing team or find out what you could still stay in touch. I was. I was able to phone to my team immediately at the time. We didn't have the cell phone numbers lead in remember that there was collecting the coins. The use on the telephone. The public telephone queuing with all the other people. Obviously waiting my turn and then with a coys two phone to my team they look. I'm still here out. More people sending you out a sprint and gazzetta dello sport just to keep in touch with what's going on and When i asked i received i say dispensation because of My sporting career. And so on. But i have to justify to the office. The office where was racing. Because i had to point out during this weekend. I'm racing in alumina in the other. We can them racing dejong and went understood that they just to to to have a a race basically in the weekend to give me the dispensation for the video at least three or four weeks and then to come back for a few days today to leave a game. I was putting in the list all kinds of races. I remember the eighty five eighty dollars indianapolis and the world to finland. Finland rarely because i put it in the list because we look they were not asking me. Are you actually going to feel into a rally. I'm doing this this this and this and how many one station you can go. Why brilliant story love. So that's national. Service we digress. But so akagi. San yes you've met him whilst doing formula three thousand. Tell me more about that story. I met the carrick academy in imola thousand nine hundred six. I was reading racing basically with our white car because we didn't have a lot of sponsors was managing the team and the team was generation. And i was introduced to mr akagi by yesica that was the manager of the bridgestone motorsport company in europe and introduced me are gaggy and Because i had a team former team in japan and unfortunately the driver that was competing in japan had a road accident and he was killed in that road accident so they were looking for a new driver. And mr yasuko state to takagi saying why not european why not choosing european because a before me in japan just to driver was competing regularly formula to jeff atkinson and the other was. Irs elkana yes am so. I was joining a team. Lewis told me. Look i will like you to come in japan to raise for me and song and they said to him. Look obviously to racing in europe for the form of thousand. I can come. But i need some money. Because we don't have a sponsor so why not splitting the price money they can provide you with my performance in my results. Sixty four the sixty four forty four me and then we shake hands in the middle of the paddock. And he's okay come to japan. Where are you worried. That people in europe. We're gonna forget about you racing in on the other side of the world. No no no. Because i was obviously coming back because it was going to japan and coming back to europe was was so stay competing former thousand i. So part of the deal was that you would continue in european formula. Three this absolutely i just say to kita. I'm not coming along. I i would like to have anybody with me at least to support me in japan. It's no problem. You can come together. And i remember that because we bought the ticket that was very enthusiast and a big fan of Flights i mean you knew everybody around the world in the airport in so it can manage to have a very low price tickets for a obviously economical and we. We went to the in economic when we arrived in japan immediately realized that this story was completely different. Because i d assistant of mr akagi minoru yesterday our same name that came to pick up me in the airport and immediately we we saw you know roy sky to the airport to pick up the phone inside the car in asking me would you. Would you like to phone to your mom and say that you're are if these some costa don't want to spend any money i mean. This was the story. Betty betty strange. We realized that behind the acura in that moment was really helpful businessmen and it was a person was a year. The a very Let's say did a step. That probably booting on on top of the list of all the businessmen in japan because the rich list because he realized he was a nephew man as he said a lot of money but it was difficult to enter into. You know the ice society or some club say when started to compete in formula two and then former one it was able to enter the this club because it was the only guy together with the on data mr on the two competing for one so he put himself top level of situation. Have you say that when we arrived in japan racist zucca i score Position and then a second place behind the the driver that these Probably the most well known driver in in japan that was not nakajima. Wasn't actually satoru nakajima adults adorable. Yes and the second story that is quite particular. Is that when we went to akagi office. After the first race gave me an envelope a closed envelope with the money the price money in the cash. And i obviously i to up and we were talking about the good race song. Because the i four was the first podium for later now this story and then i turned chaser. And they say look. I'm going to check the money the resume and she's told me. Are you crazy. I mean what are you doing. I'm not doing anything funding. Just checking the money. So they win. It opened the gamble of even minore. Yesica was you know opening is a in say to me. No no don't do it. Don't do it to do it. And then they start to count the money and they realized that akagi gave me more money than the forty percent so to me. This is wrong. This is your money. Your part of the money is not my part of them. And then from then mr kelly obviously was like everybody you laughing and so on and he gave me even more money to come back to italy and to raise and then after two races we even the car in europe with the miami blue colo and we've managed to to want the championship in in europe and to score some other results in japan. An amazing story. How did she find japan back. Then but did you get very homesick. Was the real japan. When they say real- without the for example the dod instruction stealing in japanese writing everything to find. The person who could at least speak a little bit of english was very very difficult was difficult to manage how to set up the car for example because we were used in europe to work on the mechanical part of the car. Obviously with the front suspension has shown the kittens on in japan because they had a very strong fight between titus manufacture. Download yokohama bridgestone. Were involved in for to what was calling from to because they used a six cylinder engine yamaha in your mind and they were actually setting up the car with with the times. Winning stopped for the first time they say look. I have some understanding the car. I would like to change the spring in front. No no no no wait a moment they put the car up in the air and then the key the change four tires say go out not but they will not go out. They went thought we new tires. And obviously the undestood became oversteer and stop this. Look now i have someone okay kind of some others. So at the end of the day. I asked the engineer. The japanese engineer. Look i want to change Or at least give me one chance to change just the spring. The won't change the tires just this spring and remember anywhere that we had a meeting altogether myself. Jason agree baldy minority our akira. That went to the team. The chief engineer mechanics. I mean all sitting in the same table. Okay having a tea and we had to share these decisions. Would you like to to change the why. Because i have my style. I want to try to use the springs so then when they after we use. This brings an end we could. We could score the position in suzuka. Remember that she knows the driver very famous japanese driver. That's right very well known in many respects at the time because it was sort of legend. Japan came to our box garrett in mind looking at funeral coming to the box reporter ready the technical paper and then gave immediately the paper twin to look our setup and win their club. What do you. What would you what you're doing mystery. Shenault is is asking me the set so letting letting try what he wants to do with these up not to copy our what a fascinating insight into the racing scene in japan at the time. Oh yeah i mean. The reason. Probably in that time. A lot of japanese driver would try to join for one particular. He's had some some problems to understand that when you are in a circuit you're fighting and you don't have to share information despite the fact that you know better than me with somewhere i with all these you know philosophy but for some reason they were not the competitive at the time was akagi. Signed the most instrumental figure in your whole career. Where would you have been in formula one without him. Yes akagi sponsored me for five years as you say in later now's a yemeni the opportunity to join my my dream but there is another person that actually a bushman and then gave me. The opportunity can tell because When it was racing donnington at the last race. Nfl thousand in one thousand nine hundred five. My mechanic said the problem in preparing the car. Basically they put a gear in the gearbox position. And we're the we didn't. We couldn't actually be able to participate in the qualifying. So i was last on the grid and i remember that where to go to all the teams to have you know the papers signed to allow us to start even if we didn't have the time Song so it was at the end of the field. I remember that in that race. We had the spatial race. That you have in. England drizzling very funny. Because it's raining and they say to chase a we're last what we can lose. We can try something different and they say the inches told me okay. Let's put a few degrees on the front wing and rear wing and let on the on the car the softest the select styles while the others are starting with the intermediate and see what the what's going which what is going on and why was able to start last and to finish the third in front of cantal came after the race. Cheeser a i was. I remember that there was inside the our very small truck because we had a feared lubango from the sixties. Six feet lou is at track that is a very short but very toll anyway was inside this this truck just changing and opened the door and he said look come. Come come is someone that wants to meet you and it was really just on my underpants. Nothing else and he said no come look. Can you see how i am. Don't worry come. So i took something just to to cover me. How and they went to the to the door. And that you remember that the Mr theory was very obviously. And when i opened the door mr tillerson was actually looking in the is because it was so all of the above that this to me. Look you have a very good job today. And sean with talk just for a few minutes not not already been say anything about the possibility or something like that. And when kennedy real live i saved season about. So what's going on now. And he said. Don't worry south thing will happen in the future. We don't know when but be sure that something rewrite why was tested every so sure of that because you so pamela deal how it was talking to me. He probably had the chance to talk to kiro. Privacy without me and sewn and after three weeks. I remember that i was still living in my parents house and my mom receive a phone call with someone obviously talking in english and she was shouting in the house. They someone toe case. I cannot understand ralston. So i answered the phone and i say okay. I'm even competitive to talking and on the other side. Obviously peterson. i'm can do. And i said to him Yeah yeah okay. You're who you are okay. Who you are because the friends mining that they were making jokes jokes to me on the phone saying i'm leak it out win. That deal said to me. No i'm really can t would then and the student. The paternity could arrive. You said to me. Would you like to raise for hours in the european grand prix in brands. Such an essay through and look i level. I would like to thank you for this opportunity. But i don't have money i can't bring you millions of dollars thousands of dollars. I don't have a sponsor of the car is Stay i mean. You don't have to bring any money and they say okay. But i would like to try the car because obviously no. I'm driving from but the tool booker because they time. They were racing with the engine and he told me look. Reno is not providing as an engine. We don't have any opportunity to try to test the car and say okay. Okay then i know and such but just as more circuit never compete in the long circuit. Id the test with the problem. Bitty fifty free with Stealing moss glenridge teeny eighty four in this circuit. But they would like to dry. Maybe you can organize a former tested. Do understand the circuit to the long one. Look we don't have money also to provide stats. Would you like to come or not said yes. I'm coming to race okay. So again. I took a flight to go to england without chaser because we didn't have the money for chaser to come so i was completely alone. I arrived in london. Heathrow and i took a bus. I'm not joking. Took a bus to go to brands such. And then i enter into nine when my bag and the elements inside and the overall obviously they on wednesday. I did the city in the garbage typical workday with mechanic. Sandstone atlanta round. The six o'clock six thirty is the teen was a looking at me. There were still there was going to your so he came to me and say what. Are you doing here to tell. You don't have to do anything in finance and to look yes like to go but I don't have a car. what is it yes. Mr trump sorry but the you know someone that is going to tell that they can give me a lift. So he called martin brand-new that was a mighty mighty mattie. Yvonne doesn't have the car for the weekend. So is coming with you to go to town and to come back to the sacred here in the morning. okay okay. then they showed that come with nothing. it was Driving i remember it. Well jaguar xe gs coupet because he was a beret. The safe drivers for the tom working show racing for the sports car. And i remember when we arrived at martin said to me look event tomorrow morning seven fifteen. I'm leaving the dell if you're not here in the in the reception at that time ongoing so next morning several i was with my bed. The recession and every body was actually passing through or say. What are you doing fun. I'm waiting and waiting. And then suddenly martin came said. Okay let's go. And then he remembered that martin was actually done in the car with his wife obviously in the front and it was like the sound of the to the backseat hitting to greet the the race and made my debut in formula one in brest such with the tool boy gene on thursday because being the utopian grumpy we didn't. We had the two hours ed to the normal test are normal weekend. Say and the chest to best the car for the first time in the middle of everybody else. I mean i was just the boost inside the circuit and say this is the car circuit go alert. Were you intimidated. By how nervous were you about the whole thing. Would you just take it in stride. No i was really nervous the night before within sleep in realized how difficult was drive that kind of cab because as i said I did even tested the car before. So i i discover heavy thing during the weekend how to manage the for how to manage the qualifying. The qualifying ties how to manage all the the difficult moment. Remember very will in qualifying. I stop the ticket. Osborne williams and kk uber took me. It was actually you know shouting to me new. Do funny things with the handsome. Sean and i could see i mean and then he was body scarring of my hero and then break and so i actually ducks in the back of the car and they and they ruined my wing and when it came to the boss mr deal so me with doing that makes and say what happened this anyhow i stopped kick kick make me in front of me and then i'm sorry about the breakfast so then again the practice to me. Come with me mr taylor. And they said about where we're going we're going to visit a friend and he realized immediately that we were going to to get it and when we went to say take these a rocky you cannot do this for revenge because even has yet to learn and so on and realize that kicking at the beginning was a starting not to fight but you know to say that he was a in the right the in doing this and after a minute it changed completely is a his attitude and it was more immediately intimidated then meets probably of mr kiro. What an incredible story and incredible man can tear. He was known as uncle. Ken the funk killa ken terrel. I don't know much you. Do you have another story going. Keep going with ken. Yeah tell me doing practice unqualified now. Even actually like this was using polythene dice and for the last corner of such obviously a use too much power in in that corner. The spun spinning in that corner. Means that you you're you know looking like a like a bull in. Did the police the five or six laps. Not touching the wool on the right or left side. Luckily and then i found myself on the regulation and did a lap with dives that they didn't have a flat spot. But actually the the rubber game out so my was actually really unbalanced going back right down to the carcass of the so. I think i went back to the pit lane to my my position and winner arrived in the beat lane Area realized that no mechanics ready to twelve me. But just can't you in the middle of my position where to stop the waiting for me like this standing up so i stopped the car and was just looking at the ready intimidated. Yes and state the meaning or actually bowling to the english. You'll out of the car. So i am buckle the then out. The car initially said admit out so out by clever he pledged and it was really. I was ready to receive a slapped my face really and they and they will be very very cold and he said to me even what happened. Mr tillis safe to say probably came out to the corner of minute okay. So you understand the the mistake done in how serious you could have had the store the or actually having problem Yes in the meantime. The session was going the other casual running lapping in the circus oak. The sound the engine has in this kind of condition. Say okay now. But the elements back in the car and go out. It's just the dictum mechanics joining the car and start to work. Wow what a powerful character. Yes and remember all vividly. I can say that. Also the brands hatch grand prix circuit. One of the best in the world isn't very docile very difficult really dangerous as well. Obviously for the for the speed in some corners but the as usual as we say usually say real tack attract for men and what did can say to you when you finished in the points at the very next race. I had the problem. You're in the race my caramel. It was broken so i stopped bennett. My back progress in was When i finished the race was really really really in a critical condition for my back. And when i stopped in the our area where everybody stopped funny to say that was kicking. Won the race the cayman trying to tell me to get out of the car and then i realized that they couldn't move because my back was really painful. My muscles world's a spasms imagine very so then physiotherapists from the medical center came in the l. Me really to get out of the cab. Because as soon as i was out even out of the car was getting back into the same position as it was sitting in the car obviously laying down on the floor but just to let you understand how critical my in my situation because for the half of the race i have to keep the body on the standing room either in the acceleration or in the breaking area because the the seat was moving for half of the rates. So how can you imagine how it was a difficult. And this was the first adelaide grand prix so was it a very bumpy. Try back then as well because very bumpy very. I was lucky that obviously a lot of failure had a will get a driver's was able to finish in the points. Because i was very very close to retied for the bay for the beckett ahead the race make so there was a seventh and then six and then faith and they say i cannot stop now. There was know pushing without thinking of the pain in song then. They spent nearly two hours in the medical center with this physio starting to twelve me starting to give me the possibility to move again basically because i was completely the back and then i remember very well. The mr carrillo arrived with due to force this bucs into the medical center. And he say oh. What do you event. It's very critical. Situation okay okay. But you're young you. You will be perfectly in a few days by the way. The mechanics are really proud of race and these are to be for you from the mechanics. So therefore i don't know maybe the minutes and letting weight and he literally let me there alone completely alone and i joined the probably seven o'clock in the evenings. Thank you still with the overrules. No and with by and not being able to walk was like a sort of robert because there was also the back and the mechanic they were packing staff in sean. Obviously they were getting about because of the performance and results that we had and then luckily an australian guy was helping has during the weekend funny to say but the name was it gave me a lift to detail and win to your tail again for a funny reason. I remember that we were at the hilton hotel at the time and it was Entering into the ten. And mr to with his wife they were exiting from the going to go into dinner. And can we miss the to me. So how are you. S just arriving with the oval and this was my my story. How fantastic one experience. You'll i two grown pres inform. Was there ever an opportunity to race in one thousand hundred eighty six or was that never discussed with was discuss. It was discussed because during the winter we had a lot of discussions but unfortunately in eighty five gave me the opportunity to race in band. Sacha and stadia without possible without the support of a sponsor for my side in eighty six url was asking me money and you need to six hours not a brady to collect this amount of money race. Which of course sort of takes us back to what we were talking about. An influence that akira akagi had only he was the guy that made it happen with the money with leyton house. Kid was the bush gave me the opportunity to raise formula one from lady seven to nine thousand one. We had very stronger relationship and even the decision of entering former one was a very special situation because we had the dealer. Eddie airport at the end of ninety six in akita was the remember that he was offering me to race in japan in eighty seven. Former to nearly doin the thousand dollar with Baid by anals apartment cod Food and say to him and chase it was bosomy except and they say to look you know mr carrying the i'm ready to race from one. They will need to compete in formula one and they say to me about the who talking to me. Do you have any team that is interested in your stay stopped to say funny. Names was the only one that could actually really approach because chaser was looking me. You know to ice guys. Say about what. Say i mean. Collect these two hundred thousand and be and be happy and then let me say no no. Let's let's go. let's let store. And then we start to the speed. The car as usual from wings wings decide person these and they're a good gooda cost this sort spitzer t new hall and then suddenly mr arcadia say to me okay. You want to competing formula one. How much does it cost the car for you. Topple car just for you. And then at do participate now. It's your turn. Because i i don't know what to say. I mean i finished my my idea. And then saved a van causes ranging four million dollars and i said okay. Four million dollars. Are you sure that you can competing for one. Are you ready. And he said yes like i. I'm ready and then you give me the heads shake. He said okay. We got former. You have four million dollars spent. Then we slow from japan to italy which is in every five minutes we were asking is he was a real not. I remember he that when we landed in milan after one day to another plane to go to uk. Any knock at the door of robert. A good fan of chaser told me that when robin opened the door. How are you saying i'm fine. Would you like to come back in formula. One in robinson would you mean you. Have the car have the money. Let's go on and they start to talk and for this reason march came back in one thousand nine hundred seven because chaser in rubbing shares a night together. We probably a bottle of red wine and finally they decide to go back from the first race in jeopardy wa in brazil with a form of thousand modified because we didn't have the time so the got the tank of the former one thousand three increase the capacity. We went to japan jeopardy. Remember that the total team including myself. My father searches canyon. Is girlfriend you for our gave us the engine and the mechanic we wear seventeen seventeen people and you confident that sign was going to deliver the money. Did you have any doubts in the back of your mind. I had no douse of that about that. Bucked after actually shake. The ends of recent akagi at the restaurant was probably october. If i remember well then we had the november and december to prepare everything but after a few weeks after the last meeting with the missile in japan had a busy to and even possible getting within an we start wearing a lot of pressure from england. Obviously a robin hood was phoning. Do jason chase a was. Honestly you know just who have to wait because mr callaghan is not well but you know. We went through november and december with this phone calls. That were has a lot of passion. Luckily we didn't have the mobile phone because because otherwise could have been realignment but addenda in a newly in december. The end of december seaver goes from england with some royal saying. You know you're not signing a contract. We're going to you because we have the caribbean zone and remember that. When easter luckily exit from the hospital everything was fine because he had an operation. Bypass in sean. The first thing that the asked the management team in japan jasa ev. You signed a contract with van and say look we just waiting so You mediatory because us immediately called the robin hood and lawyers and we flew to japan after christmas and we spend their free four days before the last year in that moment signed the contract for four million dollars for the one thousand nine hundred seven season and we started like that incredible ninety-three grown pris later etc etc. We haven't even discussed ferrari yet. But i cannot understand you. Sorry i did the lines gone down because it was going so well wasn't it until the end of until the end of ninety one and then you get the coal kaneda's tell us how did the ferrari drive come about. Obviously the the problem with the crossed then daily did the last race in adelaide. I must say the little house had already some problems. Ninety one and i was looking for for a drive another team i was able to achieve a deal with the school today in school dahlia. Using it at the time the chassis in a ferrari engine also for the ninety ninety two season and i had written contract basically signed then receive a phone call from. Mr lombardi was the chief of the district's diva the end of nineteen eighty-one. He said to me. Look the capelli. Would you like to race for us in a safe to me. Somebody but i am radio contract with delara and it's something that we can manage to sort out the basically they they exchange the contract with some free engines for the one thousand nine hundred dollars. Something like that. If i remember well obviously i say yes because for italian rider to become a ferrari driver dream of life. You say obviously you said yes. Did you have any reservations at o- obviously because they couldn't basically didn't have the chance to see the project. I didn't have the chance to talk about strategy. And some these just the shape to me on the phone. Would you like to come to join us. But not all the other stuff is not a problem. We can manage to sort out your relationship with laura and there will be no problem with the scrutiny and song and i'm guessing. The contract was financially good as well. Good as well with a four years contract was obviously finally situation that there was a as we say probably i was hoping to nine thousand nine hundred ninety basically team and with the long view forty gabbing with projects in the relationship so then they joined. The team was a extraordinary to to become a ferrari driver for an italian said. Bring through. obviously my life change completely. I couldn't go to the same restaurants that there was using before because They were putting mean sort of embarrassing situation because before it was queuing. Is everybody milan. For example i was too busy or we my science and when when he became very that i was going to the same insignia and they was pushing me to jumping the queue. Upset driver is just more things but showing that the from the moment. You're not any more a formula one driver. You are ferrari-driver different. And we're living in milan. At the time. No i was already living in monaco. A few years montecarlo okay. The contract was good. yes the weather. The weather's was good. that's why he went there. of course. how was your signing with ferrari received in the italian media dictate whether he high because I was coming through Career where. I was able to win the italian championship shimmy former three european championship. The monaco race involved three former thousand. Some good racist obviously as we stayed with late on house would points with volume. So i'd also probably the right age to be involved in such a strong team. Because i was a thirty thirty years is old. For sportsmen is probably the best stayed because you have the experience the knowledge you have everything. I was not ready to find a situation so political. How did that manifest itself on a day to day basis. The politics politics were a understandable immediately. When a realized that we had to separate team john was working with a mutual boston wife. They were getting reading in deterent team fears before how poltics wait and yet they were they were. They managed that they they need. They knew each others. See so if you then. I arrived and they signed the contract in october at the end of october november and then at the end of november or early december president mountains became part of the team as observers so i was in minnesota the middle area of nobody because the old the basically the management would not there. The human engine that came with the especially. I've gotta montezemolo these choice. He found me. They're ready and in one thousand nine hundred eighty two where with today's texted the cover. The first time next real realized that the car was not able to compete against the williams or against other costs because it was a real difficult to drive that car. Because we didn't have the the ground affected the the double bottom bottom supposed to produce or the front broker's with mona shop was a completely stiff. I mean not helping the bouncer. Bobo the bumps on you tested the ninety-one car didn't you. Yeah yeah but the one hundred fifty liters of fuel said the car in when you tested the ninety-one car. Because i was gonna say wet. Where was the ninety two car. Worse than the ninety-one car before the launch of the new car. We went to barcelona to winter test and to share the winter without the tapes and we were using the ninety one car and i remember better than debt test. With ninety ninety-one car. I was a goo google quicker than the luck of the secrets and anywhere the sprint cover page of of the magazines and say the ferrari will nestlings shouting in the silence because without spectator without the atmosphere over over the gum pre we were able to do a lap record with a ninety one car. Then that was obviously a much quicker than my late announced. I was able to increase my performance. Because i was using the car at the top. Then when we went to western. John was using the ninety two car and was using the ninety-one bucks for internal rules of the of the team. The car my car had to always exit the piddling with at least one hundred thirty one hundred fifty liters of fuel not to be quicker than the ninety two plus when tested. The car is saved. The car was fabulous. We could win racism on when it does the cut us there is. The wisdom is one second half quicker than us because they are using the deductive suspects controlled suspension source. Look how we can manage to compete against there and obviously the management was a more attractive buying listening gene saying that the car could win races instead of one that just arrived or discarded. The ever problem have a serious problem. So i was immediately put on putting on a corner and for this reason was nearly impossible to work. Then we have to remember but no-one actually is this because he's but he's a very important to the cow was designed to use the fence versa box for the first seven races. A used the longitudinal because in the federal team we didn't have four give books working properly just to and to give us were used by jan and a hander. Basically they nine one car. By back of the car. That's the to the ninety two with a different fusing different cover engine bumper impossible. Yeah and when they put in imola the car doing probably my best lap of my career. Because when i the cop of the current could shield on my lips no do my by slap. I put the car on the same line of jenn. We were a seven or seven feeling. This win participate to the engineers meeting. I remember will that. They were not accepting or understanding that they did a huge effort to put that kind of side by side with john but was a sham. That unfortunately was not able to go at least up half a second or even a second quicken then my car. Everything was sided with the show. And did you ever confront joan about what he'd said about the ninety two car and been so positive about it when it sounds like there wasn't much to be positive about probably john was more. Lauren experienced compassionate team because he actually had already two years sir with the alarm processor and you had the opportunity to understand the situation. And as i there was coming from a little mouse atmosphere where i was basically sharing heavy with maurice mugabe. We were from from the back to the mall in the morning to the dini. Dvd shutting everything all the information all the moment in one ferrari had the first time the any live for the first time that the racine for adopting was a different story or spatially because i had just the experience with the english team before whether any high points i mean you finished fay in the third race in brazil. Did you believe at that point. You could salvage something from the season we even from the beginning. You're thinking this isn't gonna be good. Obviously where you're part of a project. We are pushing every day every canes that'd be tested despite the fact that the we were testing everything even remembering shooter stone grossing double flat bottom with a new site post and trying to understand the could work in that configuration own. But the we didn't have anything that could elba's at least the the unacceptable result of during the season because the spatial were especially from the one in front d'amato shock couldn't work the iro with a double bottle couldn't work the engine at the problem with a blue by for the oil end. We have to reduce derives doing here. I remember he'd been wedding in mexico. That in on friday and saturday together with all the fact that we had the i could do. Maybe laps for footing laps because a sooner was going out after phillips collapsed nullum corner before the deadline then be changed engine than free laps another one. And then he remembered that they qualify. Clint the i was the same way side. We the been linger with a little house. We wear side by side. I'll can you find yourself with yourself in mood when you're when you're in that position that horrible crash in montreal as well. I was looking at some youtube footage of digital helmet. Actually hit the wool. Crikey as i was stronger than they were horrible. Horrible crash is another story behind that. We had the radio problem in qualifying because the mechanics made mistakes but everybody can make a mistake so we had in the front suspension. The belleville some special those at the us actually to manage the rolling of the rocker front rocker. Basically the mckinney. They put the belleville in in the wrong position on higher that i had to been in qualifying with a new tires. That was really embarrassing. Because in the senate corner the same time with the same kind of dynamic. I had this spin and then i remember they will achieve mechanic thing to me after polythene because it was astonished by that because look like there was a bay stupid driver basically and he said to me look there is a. We made the mistake. I can say to you clearly that we made a mistake but please do not say anything to depress because our situation is already. He's a stressful situation. Because we are under pressure every body. So please don't say anything and a game because In my entire life. When i was bottled a team was thinking to be really of something as a family cities news for the place they unfortunately during the race the arrived uprights of this suspension collapsed in that corner so with the kind went straight straight into the searching. The debris in a game mechanic could find out who found out after the the the duration and again because of the situation because of this press and the media. They were putting pressure on our sewer. They didn't say anything and basically looked like a mistake here. Great team player. There's no doubt about that. But when we got to montreal at that point of the season even though you had a four year deal with ferrari where you starting to think this isn't gonna end. Well no not really because as i said Steve box of a team of a family. I was considering myself. Everything changed after. Its still when. I finish the race because we had a serious problem on the system in spinal in the third corner and went into the gravel to stop. They can make to to milan on monday and then receive Around the eleven o'clock in the morning. Steve a phone call from the secretary of presidente montezuma and She said to me look presentable. Would like to see you immediately. Let me me land. I have to do some some things for my personal stuff. Don't nano you have to take the car immediately income here. Okay so i organize myself. The big cut anyone to to than when i arrived at the sportiva. I suppose to go to president zimmer. Because there was quoted by the secretary of montezemolo and then they found a mr dini and the best office and they said to me. Can you come with us in justice bertha by time to go to montezuma phenomenal. I we have to go to just transportation. Okay let's go to jason's so we went to enter into the end. I was brought in office where boston wife. Who at the time was already in charge of just doing sports because during the year they made the change from lombardy to boston will became the chief of the whatever and with the white paper upside down so the paper saudi upside down. I was just looking at the white white the face and he said to me look you have to took a decision said the season but is the only way to inform your is like death thing song what was going on. Unfortunately we decided the. You're not going to participate in the last races. May say why story either contract by but you know. We have to test the summer new staffer for the ninety three season. Reputation the active suspension for the new year zone and then So we think that the somebody else's to get in the car. This is a reason. No decision no discussion discussion. Visiting okay. they turned the paper. In the this is the presley's saying they were saying the things i did. I ask just one thing they said look can i. Can i make a phone call. So yes why not so. I went to another office and they caught my father because she was already passed away in ninety and then to my situation. Is this one No discussion no chance to change this. The fact and my father said yvonne. You're not losing anything. Come come home. I went through the device. Saved by ride you guys. I collect my stuff. And then when they came back to the car. I remember that the mr a or the the press office that i don't remember the name anyway safe to me. Look okay now you can go to to make the our customers and they say okay now to go to meeting with into you can go alone. I'm hall and then it went cold so you never said goodbye to montezemolo. He never said goodbye to you. Not know because as i say with the with the experience that the head i was expecting to have this information directly from him i could accept the situation as well as it happened with the pasta watkinson but at least therefore they say south of respect in do work that year. I was expecting at least to have a this information directly from the president. And not from somebody else. So when i was stolen. Okay now we can go to montezemolo an angle pulp. How much did that year with. Ferrari affect you. Psychologically a lot. Because even when i joined jordan where i have to collect the money that they didn't have to put some family man money to pay to raise the after ninety degrees. It was really a very critical critical situation. Also because jordan was another guy mean not nothing any is a tough guy achieve the become a former one team manager of a team is shown in all these people they could join that not because the a friendly but they want some they want from you sometime money any remember in nineteen ninety-two the jordan nca- accepted by kalem the all season the journal. I was the second. One was sort of a formula one five different drivers in that second car. Five drivers bakti getty boots and in one thousand nine hundred. Do you think life at ferrari as for an italian driver there for the italian because very talion other what. It was for somebody who could talk italian. Because after mike speeding's I became a one commentator. I did the twentieth with a talian. And your paternity to see michael schumacher. Eddie irvine actually competing with ferrario and it was really a shock astonished by how ivine was managing his relationship with the team. He didn't probably read zeta every day and because sports some time with the journalists they were putting a lot of pressure on him and he was. Just you know doing with this in continuing. And he's that the right way to be to survive to survive. Yes absolutely yes. Infected for the guys at the moment and phone one for science carlos and then florida litter today affected. They're both of them. Talk me talion obviously is making it even more easy because you can talk to the engineers and strong but in terms of relationship with the media. You have to be very very careful. Yes you mention. Ferrari now having a good season two consecutive poles for charlotte clerk in monaco. And and then in who do you think ferrari's upward trajectory is here to stay. You think they can compete to win. Going forward no. I don't think that this year they can really compete for the championship can compete maybe for a win. Where situation can be helpful like Safety guard rain condition or something like that but to be consistently the front now goes Is annoying especially now. You're not the foaming what you're you're doing now but you're performing what actually you managed to boot together. Six months ago of seven months ago. he's Late let's say tim's nba. They have five days sixteenths some races even one second during the race and beck is a huge road that you have to do to really competitive. The big chance comes with the rule changes next year. It isn't it. Yes when you have this kind of new rules. Basically every body can have the chance to become at least for the first season another dog like like nine hundred eighty eight for how exactly you love the underdog. Do you think ferrari has the foundation to build a good car for twenty twenty two the moment in formula one As we say the after times during this interview you have a lot of engineers lot of people that are technologies used now getting us a lot of tools simulator computers. I don't know how the they really use. But at the end of the day you need someone like ed new week. Who has the combined picture has the idea. And the old where you have to go by kenneth see in other teams that are exceptional engineers but probably no one that has this kind of experience like he has these full image for big shirt of the project and ferrari probably like other teams is missing. I mean they are not able to put everything together even if they have the tools. You think red bull is the place to be redwood has another big challenge because We know that next year they're going to produce themselves the engine. I have no doubt that the on that we give all the technology because probably had we will pay a lot of money this technology so next year. The challenge for ed bull because they show ready to have the performance is to be able to continue to have the same kind of let's say relationship between chassis constructor and engine consecutive to have the same kind of mixture because now you have to entity english team in japanese worker but next year there will be english team. Maybe some japanese. Some english is will. The problem will be to manage these those things together van. It's been a wonderful chat. Thank you so much for your time. Can you just sum. You're racing career for me. How proud are you. Do you have any regrets. The only regret that the heavies that probably go carta. I was not able to really win something bought and not just the first year where where i won the italian championship. Cadet in seventy eight but in some international races. I was a second in the european championship for team shedding the busiest race without people. But in the in the top say top racing encarta. I really missed the performance. I was not even the rostrum. Then informer three. When i jumped in formerly in italy deputy to win the championship that european the montreal race in the four thousand. So was really. I must say i have to say that. I'm really about my mic. A maybe i miss the chance to use my experience in the long distance as like Lima or other race races that are similar. What about formula. One any regrets in formula one. I just say that When they join nine connected to the team in nineteen hundred really we had a very bad. The probably the worst flooding from one compatible due to the four seventies when a joe join jordan the jordan king. I was already in a in a sort of situation where i couldn't really managed to achieve the limit to be relaxed and not to be confused by all the pressure that the head for the money or the started the head of the just before just one brigade. Yes that the. I was not able to decide myself when to stop and wish they could have chosen to stop. Maybe in annoy ninety four ninety five six by having the chase again to race and then to say. Okay i'm my age is now limiter aura amazon. I'm satisfied and and i can still be stopped like that in just receiving a again a phone call from jon benet saying if you're not being me one million dollar you cannot race whoa you can do after nine hundred fifty races. Nothing more while event. Thank you so much for your time. Great to speak to you. Wasn't he great. I could have listened to a van for hours because he's not only a great storyteller. You remembers his f one career like it was yesterday that detail in some of his stories is incredible there too many wonderful stories to pick a favorite one but how he got into formula one on a permanent basis with the support of akira. Khaki the boss of late in house is a heart warming one and as he says himself. It wasn't only akagi son to whom he owed his formula one career can zero. Was another got fatherly figure. And those two races that he drove for mr terrill at the end of nineteen eighty five had so much color to them. Catching the bus from heathrow. To brands hatch to make his grand prix debut being breaked tested by world champion keke rosberg and being given a couple of by ankle ken after a very physical australian grown pre. Just wonderful and though it's sad to hear and talk about his season with ferrari how time there unraveled provides great insight into how the scuderio function back then. It wasn't a good time to be racing for the team and many thanks for your time. It was great to catch up. And i hope to see you at the italian grand prix later this year before we move on. Please remember to send in any stories or chance meetings off thoughts that you have on event. Did you see him race. We'll let me know and remember. I'll read out the best ones next week. Send them to me at tom. Clarkson f. one or use the hashtag f. One b on the grid which brings me onto what you sent in about. Jeff gordon after last week's show and you liked what you heard. Here are a handful of the messages you sent in dan. Mahan got in touch with this. I met jeff gordon. At the premiere of star wars rise of skywalker gives very nice and went out of his way to spend time with several maker. Wish families that with ed class act. Well what a great story. Thanks dan and nothing that you said there comes as a surprise. And how about this from todd. If you're a jeff gordon fan. He says or a racing fan in general. This podcast is a must-listen an hour of fantastic insight on jeff's fandom and his in-depth thoughts on formula one in nascar great stuff. Thanks we get in touch. Todd jeff was great and i certainly found his passion for formula one to be infectious. Let's hear from sack robinson. This is easily my favorite episode of beyond the greed. Yet he says my graduated from high school with jeff and our town has a jeff gordon boulevard safe to say we've all been fans for life. I'm too young to remember the williams test. But i love every second of the story great episode as always. Thanks for the notes. Jeff survey gave us plenty of detail about the williams test. I hope you feel like you're watching it now. We'll leave it there folks. Although we got literally hundreds of messages about that. Jeff gordon show. Thanks for your feedback. And if i haven't read out your message please know that i read it. I read each and every one of the messages. Well that's it for this week. 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[82] Story Time V

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[82] Story Time V

"And I'm Kyle Dorian and you're listening to another episode of the acceptable stall water. We're GONNA talk about emily. I was story to tell you. Love again storytime episode. I've been thinking about it for a while at. I don't really know what to make of it. So maybe you and are fine. Listeners can help me sort through my thoughts on this. They can't sue strapping in. He just gave a thumbs up. They can't and I strapped and within a mattress. You built okay. So I was at Penn station a couple of weeks ago as you do and I was sitting right next to a gentleman who was using a hospital type wheelchair. I don't know how to say this tactfully but I believe he is homeless because I've seen him around Penn station before and I know that he's not always super clean unfortunately or doesn't have access to clean clothes so I'm venturing guests here but he's homeless and I hate to judge people on appearance but I think it's relevant to the story so he was right next to me pretty much me foot back by knee and I'm waiting for the train to be announced and he's asking several people who were passing by if they will please help him with his tote bag all he wants is for someone to hang his tote bag off the back of his wheelchair and he asked so many people who completely ignore him. Don't look them in the. I won't help him at all so he kind of backed up a little bit and he didn't directly. Ask Me and I hesitated. I wasn't really sure if I should offer my assistance and I think I had some kind of mental block because I was like well. I'm in a wheelchair. And he's in a wheelchair or maybe he's not asking me persistence because he doesn't think that I can help him. And I don't know I should offer how I don't know how I would feel if I was in that situation but anyway so he backed up kind of into the middle of the hallway and he started again asking passers by at like two or more minutes past and no one helped him and so I finally went up to him and offered assistance on. It took me exactly thirty seconds to hang his tote bag off the back of his wheelchair and communicate with him to make sure that it was adjusted so that it wouldn't rub up against his wheel. All this gentleman wanted help with was a bag. He wasn't asking people for money. He wasn't harassing anyone. But it just really bothering me watching. How many people refused to help him? And I think the reason that bothered me is because I've been in that situation before and I've asked a stranger like. Oh Hey can you just tell me when they tote bag I mean we'll and there's something in here that I can't quite figure out about the dichotomy between You know a white woman in an expensive looking power wheelchair and this was an older black gentleman in a hospital wheelchair and one of us being able to get help just for asking and the other one being ignored several times and then the only other wheelchair user in the area being the one who ultimately offers the wheelchair user. Help layers here. This feels like an onion to me or maybe I'm making a big deal out of it but it just really stuck with me. So that was the longest story ever and clocks in at like five years so anyway beyond five minutes five years ever take you know the first thing I'm GonNa tell you is that you said this is like an onion rather than saying there's a lot to unpack here. So are you changing it up or twenty twenty or or is this just particularly on uni this heels particularly Anini but wow you're so right and I feel called out there the lot to unpack here. No Fair enough God I'm trying to think if anything similar because I want I want to throw a wrench into this has happened to me. I will say that I am not helped on public transportation. More than I am helped when I need it and I think that's because I don't look as disabled as you. I don't think I don't look disabled but next to you. I doubt and I think if you're just glancing me I probably don't but I remember two or three years ago. I was on a subway train and it broke so bad that it made the news. Can I was on that train? And there were no free seats and all. I wanted to sit down and nobody got up. Nobody and I became that exact kind of person on the train that I hate at first. I just started asking normally like politely. And then after like the fifth person I was like I've had enough of this now is like Kennedy Body. Get up for me please. I really and eventually somebody did. And it was only one person and I never forgot that but there was also been times on the train rice. I need to sit down and there are no seats. But there's like a really large gentleman standing next to me and I tell me hey. Can I lean on you me too? Thanks and if yes but I mean that's obviously not the same thing but it is interesting to see what people are willing to do not do when all you need is nothing you know he. That man needed thirty seconds of your time. Do you know what I mean are. Somebody's time and as far as the dynamics between you being a young white girl and this guy being an older black gentleman not to mention the appearance of homelessness versus your I assume not appears of homelessness of that is certainly very anini. It just bothered me in. So many leans in L. If we look at it just from the perspective of the fact that the only other visibly disabled person was the one to help the visibly disabled person and we although you can't separate race in disability and. I'm not trying to do that but I want to look at it kind of layer by layer and I wanNA think about it. I on the level of Lake Wheelchair user to wheelchair user. I very frequently have helped other wheelchair users. An had other wheelchair users another disabled people helped me and I don't think there's anything weird about it but there was something very interesting to me about the fact that he did not ask me for help he was very willing to accept it when I finally went over and offered it but I was sitting right there the whole time as you would asking people who were walking by for assistance and not once. Did he direct that question at me? Do you think well? I guess it's part of the same thing. But do you think that was more rooted in like the able? Ism VAT is more pity. Focus like Oh. I don't want to burden this other poor disabled person or do you think that was able ism rooted in the. I don't want this to look like a circus type thing. Yeah I feel like it might have been a circus thing that almost internalized evil of them. Because I have that too or much less. Oh I remember several years ago when a big circus group of US went to. I think it was the real abilities. Film Festival is that rate. It was like a big old group of us And I felt like that was a big circus as trying to get on the subway. But but you see like I'm like that and it's totally a little bit of internal Listen but I don't know about you but I have like a a threshold where there's more than some amounts of of circus going on. I start to really love it now. Due to you also went to school at a shoe. I'm Gary desensitized to it. Yeah like you were so used to being around disabled people all the time whereas for the longest time I loved the idea of being around all disabled people but only when we were hidden away at summer camp and not out in the real world. I don't see what freaks you are especially not a group of freaks out my God. No I'm saying that ingest like Dad's kind of asked for me that's what the feeling was. Yeah but not not anymore nine. Don't care bring it on like the more wheelchair users taking up space. The better the more people using white gains and crutches and walkers like take that's based up hearing you tell that story like I feel a little uncomfortable now and not because you help somebody. Nobody was willing to help him. That was the bigger issue. That really bothers me. 'cause I know I would have done it and I know it's easy for me to say saying is sitting here not listening to you but I really would have helped him. You know like it's so I wouldn't even think about it and I think the thing that bothered me the most and I have had this happened to me to perhaps a much different level but this literal cloak of invisibility almost. It's like heaven forbid you don't present as a certain type of person it's like people see right through you. Don't even hear that you were asking for assistance. Interestingly after assisted him and with the bow to catch my train he was holding his coat in his hand and it fell on the floor and he asked woman to help him pick it up and she helped him pick it up and something to me just says no one could be bothered to take two seconds to listen to him when he was trying to explain what he needed help with because it wasn't obvious that he needed help with the tote bag. But you see a code on the floor. It's more obvious you don't have to do any listening. You just know it's also like I almost want to say then. It's like a a fear to help because you're afraid that you might do the wrong thing but the reason. I don't WanNa posit that although I do enough to wanNA bring it up. Is that people love to help us all the time without any asking or prompt whatsoever. So it's a bit weird when somebody's literally asking for it and everyone has something better to do and I appreciate that. They were in a train station. You and it's always busy but still yeah. There was something about the visual of this gentleman sitting in the middle of the train station literally just wanting a bag handle on his wheelchair handle and still not getting out but he asked and I feel guilty for not just offering help right away but I was having my own internalised. Ablest conversation with myself do I help them. Do I not help visit weird if I help him. Right yeah and what a ridiculous conversation to be having with myself. I'm sitting here. Why isn't he asking me? I'm right here. I can help him. Would I if I needed help I would ask him? You know but you're also absolutely right the point that you made about the fact that people are willing to foist their help upon us when we don't want it but heaven forbid you ask to be fair though those are usually in what they perceive as obvious situations too. So you're you're also still right that like it's usually holding a door open or something but still. I feel like if you're willing to do that where it's obvious. It's not that much effort to take thirty seconds out of your day to listen to what they might mean. 'cause vein what they need. They'll tell you they know you don't know right so I also have these visions of some kind of social experiment where you have me on one side of the train station asking for help and this gentleman on the other side of the train station and see how people react differently. And I'm a hundred percent. Sure it will prove that white privilege the thing but I mean. I don't think our listeners need proof but in case you do know that's like You seem you should bring that up a bit. Oh it's like what would you do that? Show where Yeah. People don't do anything. Yeah but then you also have the people who get really really worked up and freak out at immediately jumped to the person's aid it's like there's no in between it's either people are like very impassioned about how he must help this person or they ignore and now. I know that you said there's obviously layers here intersections and I know that this is an onion that we're taking layer rail air. But I think that we're in hacking I think what you just said applies only or very mostly to disability. Maybe I'm wrong but I think that the whole all or nothing when it comes to help is something that is uniquely us. I will say it that way for sure but I also think that race plays into how all or nothing things can go of course. Oh yeah and it really makes me wonder. Gosh just is going to sound so cliche. Why can't we all just help each other? But when asked or you know when it's really needed or prompted why is it so hard to take thirty seconds just helps them one because homeless people are mean and scary and I don't like them Israel you know but like that's what it is like what else is i. Don't know that this is totally related. But on the flip side there was a homeless trans person and I know they were trans because they're signed stead so That they were holding so oh cardboard sign in transportation and as I was rolling by they specifically said watch out for this crack in the sidewalk absolutely right. There was a huge crack. The wheel would have gotten stuck in and I thought that was incredibly kind of them to stay that to me and actually turn around went back and gave them a little money in the freezing cold night you know. I can't do much but please go get hot. Chocolate Something. I don't know you know I just WanNa say thank you. That was very kind of you to look out for me while I was rolling by and I feel like this is the least I can do. And this is not super related to what happened in the train station but it also kind of makes me think you know. There's the flipside were homeless. People are willing to help other people but we're not willing to take five seconds. I would say they are and I think this is about to become homeless. People are awesome with Kyle Emily because I have stories to thank you. I've got to just reynolds the top of my head. Yeah I definitely I wanNA hear this because I'm curious although I will say I wanNA hear your story but there's a flip side to the flipside like there were flipping a lot of stuff here but triangular dice. Sometimes I have the opposite of that happened and instead of a homeless person like extending that level of kindness to me. I'll have homeless people be near me. Ask everyone around me for money and not ask me. Oh Yeah that happened that I've seen I usually get asked but like yeah whenever I'm with you or anyone who doesn't work typical Able by I guess whatever that means Yeah it's like people asking for directions the ask everyone around me. But they won't ask me anyway so it very nuanced and complicated and I don't know that I answers. I just know that this is a lot to think so. I WanNa hear your story about helpful. Homeless people got two one is mart. Well when we were coming home from Virginia we took that Amtrak train into Penn station. It was like one in the morning and I needed to get home because I was very tired. Yes it was added my giant suitcase my laptop bag a everything was heavy and I wanted to get a cab and I walked up the stairs from Penn station eastern corner and I stood there for a few minutes and voice from the night said that I was going to have trouble getting a cab and then I should try to take the train and I was like. Yeah whatever ignored it at first but then he like came up to me and he was like I'm serious. You're gonNA have a really hard time getting Kim and I was like okay. You know and I'm fully. I'm GonNa tell you right now. I was a little spooked because it was dark. And this man came right up to me without any provocation whatsoever. And he was very clearly homeless because he told me. I was like all right. This is this is going to be a problem because I had my own little preconceived notions but I told him I was like. Hey I really need to take a cab. There's no way I can take this all on the train and I just said that. Like as a throwaway comment you know trying to sort of like either situation and this guy sprinted out into the street into oncoming traffic. Because of course he did like you know and he got a cab to stop. He made the Cabbie his trunk. He picked up. I didn't ask him to do any of this. He picked up my luggage. Put it in the back of the cab and he made the camera down his window and he said take him home. His legs are EFT UP. He needs help getting into this cab and I guess he told me climb the stairs or something and like I didn't even know what to say except for thank you. And he told me his name was Paul and to like. Tell my dad. Happy father's acres was father's Day. All I know right what a Guy I remember this story now but now that you're telling me again it's like vivid detail and then and then the other time it was another time. I was with you and it was very dark and I was walking either to the transition to a cab or whatever and I tripped over this homeless woman and I felt really bad because I remember this and she apologized to me and I. It's like why are you saying sorry? I I heard you by mistake with no but I'm sorry and then Someone some random like I'm going to call her a Karen came up to me and she asked me if I was okay because she saw me like trip over this lady and she was like that woman was such an idiot. I was like no. She was really Nice. She was just being with such a big like it was like the worst thing but those stories. Yeah I definitely definitely both of those and the intersection of homelessness and race and disability be interactions between disabled people and homeless people. Whether or not they have a disability. It's really interesting to me. A lot of complicated dynamics there I mean in reference to what I was saying before Sometimes I honestly feel like there are homeless people. I've encountered who seem to think that I'm less-privileged than them in some way and therefore they shouldn't bother me for money while otherwise I wouldn't ask you. I think that somewhere in their head they do think that meanwhile I recognize that. Maybe I'm less physically privileged the number but certainly more financially privileged and housing privileged. And I want to help where I can but it feels weird when I'm not asked it's like oh my money you don't want my money okay and I I know that like such an awful thing because of course they don't WanNa be asking for anyone's money no but then but you also are. I don't want to be free but like I know when it's me like I don't WanNa be presumptuous. Assume they need it like that could just be a guy for all? I know right but I'm talking about when it's a crowded area. Oh Yeah specifically if I pass by almost percents. I'm not just going to make assumptions about what someone who is not me means. I know I didn't mean specifically come up to you. Like people have asked alive but not me. Yes yeah. That's very strange. There's something that they think about you that even though they're in what I would call dire financial straits. You're not worth asking. Yeah so it's it's an interesting situation to be in and I I don't know if I even have any conclusions about this defined being quite honest I just feel like it's something that people don't really talk about the interesting privileged dynamics at play and be able to them both internal and external that comes into play around these kinds of interactions and at the end of the day. I am glad that I helped the guy with its tote bag because quite frankly I think it made sense to have it in a wheelchair user helping him because most of the time when I have non wheelchair users who helped me. They don't get it. There's a certain way to put the bag on so that it doesn't yeah there you go. You were his little bit of relief. He didn't have to explain to you and he was like Super Nice instead. Thank you and so it was like a fine interaction. But it's going to stick with me for a while largely because I think other people suck and I really wish someone would have just provided assistance. When asked it's so easy not to suck? It's unbelievable and again. I know this is a train station. That's like the one area. That's like famously. Full of homeless people and also famously. Like you gotTa keep your guard up because there are also like a bunch of thieves and pickpockets around. Not that Penn station is like the most dangerous place. But it's a place where you gotta be careful but I just can't imagine if all the man wanted was his bag picked up from the floor or opponent is wheelchair or something I. It's that bothers me you know. It's funny some him. I'll be sitting and waiting. I'm either for like you to get off the train or Eli to get off the train or a friend or whatever. I'll just be sitting minding my own business and people will approach the ask if I need help like what about me suggest to you that I need help. I'm not asking I don't look like I'm in distress that points. See like now I would say that you're the situation in your stories points moral awhile at least a little bit more to racism or at least two anti-homelessness or something because of yeah. Yeah a big old party of the two will just just because you know that that's what you guys have in common is both wheelchair your perfect strangers. Come up to you and ask you if you need help when you don't that has less delayed him at all costs. Yeah I would say that. That means it has a little bit less to do with why they were going. I mean obviously I'm pulling astronomy but I could be wrong but like that's so terrible though now it makes a lot of sense and I got. I don't WanNa be cheesy but my takeaway really is just take five seconds and help people but I guess my other takeaway is. Don't underestimate other people's ability to help you write and you know like well. I'm making this up but like there's a like a mother and a small child who saw you do that? Who saw like the One? The wheelchair lady helped the poor wheelchair man. And like like you see. This is why you should be good in the world. I'm sure but that person wasn't getting news. I was GONNA say that before but I didn't want you to get mad at me. I'm not. I was literally going to exacting. I'm like WHY ISN'T ABC? Run A story. I was prepared for that. No but really not exactly the kind of. That's exactly the kind of thing that would be on the news. Thank you thought I would get mad at. You know a little bit. You did say because it finally. It's exactly what would be on the news. I wish it was. We'd have so much more to talk about her nonsense that you want layers. Who can it lay? Twin showed up onion. Yeah but like you had a whole Godly camera crew. Show up right but no one picked up the bag or like somebody who's willing to film you picking up the bag but when pick it up themselves. Is it terrible that I literally feel like that would happen or the news anchor would be like? Can you just take that bag off into do that again? For the camera then then the guy would get upset and like swear them because he has somewhere to be in like now. The anchor is left with like homeless. People Right Kirpal. Yeah Oh my God I can totally I i. It's not that I can imagine it. I can like beyond imagine it. I had a little news story produced in my hand like I. I can see the Chiron and everything like and that's a problem. Yeah no I know. That's a whole other episode. Yeah but it. It's only when those stories every once in a while go viral of like Nice. Young man helps person using a walker across the street or like look at this food service worker assisting someone eating dinner like Yeah Oh man but if both people were in wheelchairs. Oh my God I the head of ABC on the phone. 'cause I've got an idea hello. Abc I have a story. That a warm the cockles of everyone's hearts got it is. It is so bad how we can make fun of this but it super realistic and if I admitted the right place at the right time and there was a camera crew there. That would have been spiral. No not a camera crew. Somebody is with cell phone. Yeah what I'm talking about. If that interaction had lasted a split second longer somebody could take another cell phone and started filming me. I'm just saying watch out because this is not. The point of the episode are episode right. Now we made more points. This was just a really good one. Yeah I hadn't even thought of but it really me a medic at the over all ready to go. I mean it's an obvious thought like I. I'm glad that we got out in the open. That is so bad that we can think about that. That would make excellent satire. If we ever get ourselves on you God we should do that. I mean it would be a little bit insensitive but we've been making a larger. It's not insensitive though. I mean if we would acted out yes yes but to your point though like we still blade. That's a good particular scenario is played on that scenario only got Literally wheelchair bound person helps other wheelchair bound person. No you know what you should do. Mulan as the sad pathetic wheelchair bound person should like sell lemonade to wipe out. Some six year olds medical bed or lunch debt or something and like a local news station will really repackage that as like a feel-good story. Meanwhile it's like the actual most depressing everything wrong with America in five minutes story and the only people who will be in line to buy lemonade will be other disabled people. Oh yeah with like with like various disabilities that that all have some effect on appearance. Because that's all anyone cares about when it comes to feeling good about being disabled according to believe it right right be a while none. Are we terrible or we geniuses? I don't know I think we're realists who are conditioned to expect this kind of crap but so much that like like we could literally right the the purely I mean if he wouldn't run this but the unions and so my final takeaway is echoing your final takeaway which is cheating but honestly we just all the good to each other but doesn't seem so hard does it. And I I know that Salvator casting the late can we try. If we don't like it then we can go back to this but like can we try it. I just to see how it feels. He can go back to the issue each other. 'cause no one's ever tried being good all the time. So maybe it's the worst. But now ms plan but like honestly we should go to each other. That's I think that's a great takeaway. I think we should that. This has been another episode of the accessible. Still I'm kyle. She's emily you can support us. How can we support us? They support us. We support support us. You can go to Patriotdepot DOT COM SLASH. 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RHOA & Project Runway: Teeny Weenie, Meanie Nene, Kenya Moore & Peach Bellini

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So if you don't watch real house, New York or summer house, or whatever these shows are you're still going to have an amazing time. So like, don't fixate on that just come and be with your people and having amazing amazing time because we're gonna have a great time. Okay. Let's do real housewives all that man season. Finale. This is not the real housewives of Atlanta hot dogs, and they had a whole montage of Samara just being wasted. Which? Yeah. I mean, that's that's pretty much like the most exciting thing. That's happened. All seasons. Smart getting. Like Bush is having a little hotdog Samara gets drunk and Eva has bad credit. There you go that's been the season pretty much. Yeah. Exactly. Of course, the oversell and she said on Instagram yesterday. She's like to into the most ethic finale of all time and watch how I get screwed over the sisterhood was real to me. And I was like what happened to Niimi someone finally got sick. And meaning like smacker something. But no, no just up to her old tricks. Her old like super narcissistic ridiculous tricks. There's a moment this season where I think even declared on this show. I was like, oh, the old meanings back feel so good. The old means back, and I should have known better because she's just become that awful diva Narcisse shrew that she's turned into over the past ten years, and it's a shame. Sure, she like brings a drama, but honestly like watching Kenya. Walk into the party later in the episode. It was like a breath of fresh air, especially people. Been waiting for her to come back feel like the show has been sorely like headed has fallen apart since she's left. I mean, really the show is gone downhill ever since they brought in any back. Let's be honest because Nene brings bullshit to the show. She she brings fake shit that that serves only yourself and she's ruined Atlanta. If you ask me, well, she built it. And that she broke it down. You know? That's just how it goes. I guess she feels her right? Yeah. The house you can burn the house down when they need left. The show the show still went on was great with fabulous. When Kim zodiac left the show the show went on. I was Kenya. More love the show. And it's the worst season that they've ever not believe you're blaming. I cannot believe you're giving Kenya. More credit for Schick anymore. Still an awful person. Just one person. All Kenya is any better. Kenny is horrible. But he knows but she terrible. And I don't think you should have to have an anchor of somebody that's fucking horrible to make so work. You know, so sad of. Course, I need to see some Ari doing that much either. All this. She's making you laugh in these later who knows who knows what works, and what doesn't work. You just never knows just depends on how the season goes. You know? Well, I think that can you. Yes. You obviously, she's a terrible person as probably an argument can be made for most of the people on Bravo. But you know, what she she she really knows how to. Her style of starting shit is just I feel like just so much more entertaining -taining than knee style. Or really any of the other women, though, other women aren't really starting shit. They're not like doing anything interesting. I mean Kenya. She just has a finesse. She has over the years really, polished her skill of of shade. And I don't know I think the show sorely misses. It urine saying keep her out of here. No way back. Okay. So we opened Anini store with her assistant Kia, which is also a discount car just pointing that out. I don't wanna name same anybody. Having an assistant named Ross. When you're trying to have an upscale store also the stores called swag with. Jeez. So there's that problem going for the branding to and the sequels swagger ships. So, you know, we've had a lot of people on Facebook report that they try and go to the store, and it's never opened. So I don't know if it's only open for drama or what? But seeing her pretend she's working is really hilarious because it's very like ABC Fabra style of working. She's just like, okay. Tell people in the store we need things in inventory, inventory, numbers numbers boxes, boxes, Kia boxes. I'm gonna go. Okay. She wants to move her vacation corner of of clothing down to Miami that which you can have a high end corner. I kind of feel like just having like I played the terms high end and corner just don't even match like you're either. Like, if you were putting high end stuff next to like, I don't know things that are like on the way to Ross, then you know, it's sort of doesn't make it that. High end. If you ask me, well, she's wearing a very high end corner thing, which is a gold velvet robe with her on it. And I don't think Chevra takes the tag off which I really love about me. Yeah. And then Marlin comes and can make me crazy. I love it. So open a store where the and then just put it right back on the rack because that so her I know Marlowe walks in and she is truly wearing the technicolor Dreamcoat. But this time it out of silly string. She just like I dunno. She's just something has exploded all over her back. And she's here just to talk with knee to, you know, get the update on Greg. And he can talk about how Greg is not he's finally doing chemo after much thinking much off, and you know, things like that candle Marles Joseph in the mazing technicolor Dreamcoat. If you're rooting for the lion. Grew rooting for the line to eat it. And also that tackiest Jack from swagger to says it. Yes. Goo. Yeah. It probably cost like two thousand dollars and to me it just looks like an arts and craft project on wrong at summer camp, so needs like, well, Greg's tried everything. Listrik so moving on. Just like the thought of Greg doing everything Listrik he's like, well, nothing Listrik work. Both starts. Beacon come over. Yeah. I mean, I think any news, right? That basically Greg was just I think he was just scared of chemo. And then finally was like, okay, I probably should follow science. So then Cynthia is going to lunch with candy cane uh, this is where everything starts to get shady because we have Cynthia and candy over here having lunch, and then Marlow Anini over here deciding how they can inflict more bad fashioned onto the world, and they just start coming back and forth. So can't comes in a glitter MU which I don't know why I'm commenting on everyone's fashioned today. Maybe because it's fashion day. Maybe it's project run with product runways inspired you it's like on you cash and forward thing about her. Fashions Cynthia is so she's excited because she's like she's like, hey can check it out. Here's the packaging. She literally has an empty cardboard like a bottle catty like when you get a six pack of bottles of a b. I'm like that little cardboard she has one of those things which is sort of like inherently sad and perfectly Cynthia. And she announces that Seagram Seagram's has approached are Seagram's which bought out skinny girl has Cynthia Bailey to have the Bally's unit drink, and I'm like, oh, so it's like the final episodes that we're just going to introduce storyline right now like introduce it entire arc and like just gonna have a party for it. Like, that's what we're gonna do now. Okay. Fine works for me. I don't know why they're calling it a peachable Leany though, because bullies peach. So that. Whatever packaging is in the shape of a happy meal. It even has the golden arches the whole issue. There should have been a panel. I could like cut out at my push down and driven like a Hot Wheels car through, you know, she just needs to have a product line of happy meal toys, like all her stupid businesses. Like one will be like a little booklet on how to model, and what are what are other businesses, you can fold the flaps to make it look like kitchen island, just put it in the you're on your Djabel the child as having attention to keep an island, you can build your own McDonald's dream home, but everything is kitchen island. Yeah. Like, I mean, what happened to her wind storyline. Remember for like, two episodes. She was developing like the Bailey wind something another. They did mention at the end of the episode. But like all right, just they just drop that story live. This is even boring. Just even for Cynthia. This is boring. Storyline can't kind of recap. She's like, okay. So you have a peachable Leany thing. And a wind thing you go girl. Can't he's just like I came here to eat. Okay. Can we not talk about your pretend businesses for five minutes because I got like ten real businesses to go to after this. And let's not forget also the last time we saw a Bolini attempt on Bravo. I believe that was Therese's. You guys didn't she try to didn't? She enjoyed try to have like the what was it called fab Leany or something like Abilene? Yeah. That's right. It drew a blank until I heard that one. Of course. And of course, the original Bolini, Jim Alexis. Yeah. The bleeding blue. You drink. Back for a little gym Alexis. Beleno Bolini time don't say anything about jemele, Alexis bleeding. You'll get sued. Okay. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. We're lesson by now. They're wonderful people wonderful, wonderful people. They're doing a good job for the world. Good for you, guys. Keep it. Yeah. Yeah. They're they're they're trampoline. Parks are saving lives. Yeah. Then Cynthia starts talking about our party that she's going to have. And she's like, it's a matter of fact, who do I need to contact about putting my peach Bolini in old lady and can't he's like Todd. She's like the music is like pump pom-pom, they literally turn the music down like. I like the saddest restaurant. You might my believes available at the old lady gang. The old lady gang classy to have her. Nationally, branded blinis is at Seagram. So it's a real company. So candy tells her she's not going to Porsche's baby party gender reveal party because you never goes to any of her things. And she's like, you know, she just doesn't five with my friends. I'm like, yeah. 'cause they chase her around and try and start fistfights with her while she's pregnant k yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's important to say because Meany tries to use that shit later, which doesn't really work the same for ni. Yeah. Exactly. So so now this are talking about Eva, you know, because last time we saw these ladies they were shaving Eva on not having like Malovic, where she said, she's living, etc. And so we're cutting back and forth between he and Marlow. And then also candy and Cynthia talking about it and pretty much everyone agrees like something off. And something sounds weird. You know, and like I think some things just like somebody's off. Something sounds funny Marlins. It's bullshit say with me. It's bullshit. Don't try to be nice about it. It's all bullshit. Yeah. You know, what else smells fishy Marlow when you come in and say, oh just been working. You know, how it is just working Marlow? You don't work and everybody knows you're not working what the fuck even trying to talk about calling someone else a compulsive liar with your yard jacket. You got for free from Niimi sore? Yeah. I don't think we've ever seen Marlow work ever. They can't on TV. Yeah. No. They can't. I think the only thing we've ever seen Marles like interior life as her collection of was guns and knives that evolved somewhere from like six seasons ago. Yeah, you can't try and show Marlow work because you can't show that stuff on TV. And then the audience is just going to be left. Wondering worth us being pong ball suiting out of. So yes, she's trying to get her to shit talk. Eva and means like, whatever, look, maybe she's just embarrassed. I totally understand. Now. Let's talk about something else. More or less. Look start to go. That'd be more than willing started. Go fund made. That was so great though. So right. Rob, sir. Go ahead. Do I was just gonna say Meany drops the plot of the things. She's like now, I gotta I I really need your advice about this. So Cynthia, she's my friend. She has this other friend who backing up is that Kenya. More you're backing up onto anymore. She's like. Boom, boom since he keeps talking to Kenya. More like. Yeah. God. Yeah. I know that friend the one needs to visit. But German-Polish burn burn. So Nina goes into goes, this person has started a lot of drama in the press, and we cut to Kenny Moore's Instagram, it's one of her Instagram stories where there's a little question, you know. Whereas like, you know, ask me anything so someone asked Kenya? Who do you? Call text delete and the options were Andy Cohen, Porsche Anini, so Qena said call Porsche Tex, Andy delete Meaney. That was the that's that's it. That's the fight that this is what Niimi is like furious about. It's one of those stupid ass Instagram story question things. I can't I can't she's like, well, we were you know, we're fine. When I see everything on social, she's pretending. We're not friends. She and followed me on social media knowing the press would see that as red flag, she's being strategic. What does that mean? What does she strategizing to win like apart back on the show? I don't think she really has to fight with you in the media to get back on the you probably as like, I'm not on this show anymore and Nina's toxic bitch. So I'm not gonna follow her 'cause I don't have to. Yeah. I'm not going to be on Kenya side. You know what? I mean. It's very rough. Very rough. It's it'll be very easy for me. Like, you see I'm very I'm very calm right now, mainly because I have a little bit of a cold. So I'm just I'm just like low key. But I guarantee by the episode Ronnie, I'm going to be just like screaming, I'm gonna be screaming around this TV party app because I just field as rage bubbling up inside me already. Like when he goes, this is this is a fake beef all for attention. I'm like, you are the Queen of the fake beat. You're the one who went who likes to we had to sit through a stupid beef last season between you and Porsche because you're upset that Porsche made an off hand comment on dish nation for crying out. You're the Queen of the beef the Queen like you could become vegan at this point. Because you have so much beef get that vegan chef back. Yeah. Doc. She's like, well, my issues with cynthia's that she won't say anything we can yet. But then she won't let us talk bad about Kenya. We see clips of Cynthia being like, I will not talk about on your all right now, which was kind of ridiculous, but that's very last season. But but but but the thing is also that like. I thing is Cynthia is inherently weak, which is one of her biggest flaws, unfortunately because she has these two alpha female, friends, and she's caught in between them. And she knows that if she doesn't see something like that Niimi is our railing on on Kenya. And then Cindy will have to be in a position where she's to defend Kanye than easing mass. It's just like, you know, what let's not talk about this. That's what she's doing there. But then leans like, oh, she's taking your side. She's not I'm not allowed to talk shit about Kenya. So she's taking her side. I'm like, actually she's asking you not to put her in that position and not to be shitty person right now. I'm back over with Cynthia Cynthia. Oh that last part was so much just put all our differences aside celebrated life and can't he's like well. But. On law for started talking about Meany getting all mean online. Yeah. Apparently, can you had her baby shower, and she didn't invite me and got really mad. So she went on Instagram started leaving comments like, oh, congratulations on your baby with second been there. When that have been nice. Been involved. Faked beef. Why are you participating in it? You know, like, what's your the one who's actually baking beefy? And since he's like, how did he know was cast and then custody being like I was being sarcastic. Fuck casing. I support you on then she's like, I'm really dealing with a lot right now. Okay. You know what? Shut up. Okay. Shut up without I'm dealing with a lot right now. You don't get to use that every time you're an asshole. Yeah, I'm dealing with a lot right now. I'm going to restaurants and sitting alone because my husband has to six from cancer to join me, which is so obnoxious of him like, that's what she's dealing in her mind. She. But it's like every time. She does something bad. She's like, you know, what I'm going through like at some point. You know, I'm getting mad at Greg for having cancer. And that's just not right. It shouldn't work that way. The issue is like, you know, I do have patience and empathy for people who are going through a lot. But in her case her behaviors not any different than if she weren't going to a lot. But just now she has an excuse for it. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. So then cynthia's explaining why why there's a beef. Well, she doesn't know that there is one. But she said if there is one it's because Kenya reached out about Greg but not right away. And then she didn't invite me to the party. And she's like, I just wanna put the PS two the side. Can't we just lift me up into a place of glory Bolini glory. I'm like you or you're not receiving a Nobel prize. Okay. You're launching a Bolini a like a novelty Bolini brand that's gonna live on in like as strange house. I've memorabilia in someone's like homemade museum in remote, Nebraska. Okay. That makes it into the clubhouse. Yeah. Like, why can't I need all the village to lift me up in a blaze of glory. That's direct word about a C C Grimm's Cynthia. You'd only listened the village is not coming together anymore for you. Okay. Because you had the sunglasses and the backpacks and the Barjuan and the modeling agency the village right now is going to send a few representatives and like a few coupons. Okay. But you're not getting a you're not getting no one's coming together and lifting you up. So then means like, well, here's what I'm thinking cynthia's having this event, and I'm not going to support her then because she needs to know with no support feels like Mike, you're an asshole. She's Cindy has actually been aggressively. Supporting you to this entire experience. She's the one who's sitting on her vacation and listening to you cry. Okay. She's the one who's been who has been supporting you and Greg. And. She like deigns to be nice if someone else and not give all the tension to you does not mean that she's not supporting you. Okay. Then providence something really mean to me. What is they put on this commercial that made me like Meany because? They one of the stupid movie Tian's that they always do, but this sensor that movie little which is like big remake where? A little girl was playing Meany. Did you see it? Well, I saw I watch the commercial. A new USA disarray ISA ISA s I think it's ISA. It's a Ray movie right girl from blackouts Cynthia is sitting there waiting to go into meaning and little girl comes at the knee wag like. Pushes people out of the way. The little girl deserves an EMMY she was fantastic. Like being a little boss, Cynthia cynthia's like who are you? And she's like, I'm Niimi, and she's she says her picture on her phone. She's like, this is Nina leaks. And she's like hi wig little girl like. That's awesome. It was so cute. But then we come back in and he's still a horrid human being. I'm like baby girl on this show. I want the little girl pretending that everything maybe the needle even watching is just like a little girl has been like transmuted into like an adult body, which explain her rampant. Immaturity. But it will make our past a lot more depressing. That's for sure. Depressing eve at her new rental and she's celebrating by going full proof face for the big big season finale, perhaps her last ole time episode as s member crossed. So she has long like yellow face. And it just only funny because her husband has nothing on his face. So like, it's just they're just sitting like, she's being dinner. He's just sitting there and just so funny that her phases so beat and he doesn't even care. He's just like whatever the fluorescent lights like being down on him. So anyway, I don't know why I'm like fixated on this point. So they're just like making jokes like. Oh, I guess we're broke isn't that? I guess that's what people are saying. Now, we're so broke right now. Like, you're kidding Wallace built out of paper towels. You're at an extended day. We know this is in your house you're gonna to somebody's front yard. You're literally on like a Universal Studios back lot set. Okay. Tram just went by this is Eva just trying. She's just rehashing everything that's happened with her, and it's kinda sad to watch. But damn her kids are cute though wrote. Good genes. Yeah. Well-meaning? She's she's now doing that thing. We're like, okay. When they confronted me about this yesterday. I was caught off guard and I flipped out because it was true. But now that I have a handle on it. I'm gonna try to get ahead of it and try to shape the narrative, so she's just like laughing about like people don't realize like, it's security reasons. And then we stick a whole montage of her giving different reasons why they move so much. You know, she's like, you know, it's so funny that people call me poor and she's like taping together to little pieces of used bath soap. Trying to smush together. She's got like five ketchup bottles on their on their head that she's like ready to like transfer onto one it's time for commercial. It's time for crap. Do you have a bunch of stuff lying around the house? You just don't use that kind of thing like a kid's baseball glove that no longer fits pair of jeans. That was only worn once. I mean who doesn't have an old phone hiding in a drawer somewhere. I've got about like five. I've got a ton of stuff Lang ground my house. And now that I'm tiding up. Let me tell you about map you can use to self Steph. It's called Macari M E R C A R I Macari, and they make selling stuff that you no longer use really fast, really easy. And that's why it's called the selling out. Yeah. It actually couldn't be simpler, just like take a few of your stuff and you add a description your items listed, and then once it's sold. Macari emails. You a shipping label, and you just stick it on and send it off. No meet ups. No hassles. The app has over three hundred thousand reviews on the app store with an average four point eight star rating. So why not give it a try and my right am I right everyone. Right. I got a board game sitting right? Here you're that that's a board game. And I'm going to sell it. I'm Macari waiting for. I know you've got stuff you don't use. You know, we're all similar in this way. So sell it ship it and get paid with Macari. You can find Macari on apps doors or Macari dot com. That's M E R C A R I Macari the selling app. So then we go over to Porsche and her agenda reveal party. Oh, so sad. It's just like cardboard things that say carnival like falling over in the wind. Will you know what? Guess what those parties are sad. No matter what you do to them because they're stupid item. Sorry, no gender reveal parties. Although actually technically it should be. It's supposed to be sex reveal not gender reveal. But that's a whole other. That's a whole other conversation. Why was it? If. Well, I think the gen Sex's what you are assigned gender as while you at all that, oh, that's all that stuff. So anyway, so stand when parties that confusing just don't have it. I say I just feel like we'll do for this. I don't need the party to know just just the baby. And then like post something I don't need to know what kind of hot dog you're pregnant with a K. What does this? I don't need to sit here on what you order your fucking hot dog. Just let's see exactly sending you something yellow and gray. Anyway. Okay. So I don't care what the. Season passed him up flicks. Anyway, so let's stop at that. I'm sending you an Amazon gift card. So you decide how you what what sort of toys you wanted to be what what gender slash sex. You'll hear you about to go. Okay. So cynthia's like I'm always on time have. It's the first time I was on time setup. Who's not ready? Things are just like flopping over. I think there's like, you know, what it looked like it looked like a looked like a normal person's party. You know, that was not sorta gone time. So let's stop pretending that you set everything up 'cause you went to a fucking dinosaur museum. Okay. Was already set up. Don't people when you have zero setups in the? Yeah. Yes. And the lack of setup this this means, you're you're Seagram's party better be excellent. And guess what? I'm sure Seagram is going to do it all for you. So she didn't have to do anything. She just walked in. There was like people go good boss that being said, I mean, this is what you get. When you hire Papa John's to do the event planning. Planner's last week relate. What are these pizza delivery people doing like, you know, is the biggest con- this is like it was their version of film warr like to pizza delivery people show up but instead of being like accidentally like mistaken for killers their mistaken for party planners able to we'll take that money. So people set up this this gender reveal party and hilarity ensues was like what are the cashiers from studies doing here planning party? Why why is the staff from sonic here? Parties too. So Dennis is like worse, by the way, Porsche is wearing red or pink and blue hair. Yeah. Porsche looks crazy so ports. He's like come here. I think I said explain to you. What's going on? He's like. Supports. It tells us I was expecting lions Tigers by still walk people laughing. I. It was a sad sad machine. And the still girls just sitting on the trampoline. Texting her friends. Still. She's not even on her still. She's not even but he's not he's not even vertical. She just. Texting on the trampoline. I have to say though, you know, one person is always reliable to find the upside Tanya who when she shows dogs. Oh. What a party, I love it. And Porsches crying. It's like where are you saying? Did you see the? And guess what? She was city on trip lead looks. You know, what they say about people from Decatur they sticks. Look at that pitch from still so Dennis is like, where's motherfucking fire? Breather. I just think that's such a funny way to such a funny thing to say an apart-. Yeah. We're some by fiber either. Where the fuck is the tent and they're like, oh, they couldn't get it up. The towns like say drag up behind the bushes like a dead body like like eight cents. No, what do your job on come over here? I wanna talk to you for a second. So what who cares? Extra Shannon Madore today. I'm trying to fix it. So people are not listening to podcasts in the back of. David. Even even okay. So Porsches crying in the bathroom, and whatever they all have to comfort Porsche. It's like the only thing that's gonna make Porsche feel better. If she gets litter on a massive scale. Yeah. And Tony's like carnival. I've been in Canada when we have carnivals there's just like a snow cone into his lers. So you got us beat. So cynthia's like, well, I don't know. I need not here. She considers push it a little sister. I just just don't know. And then she's talking to hill she's talking hill. And I guess he's fucked up or something 'cause she tells me needs to stop drinking because he's like key bay. Can we get married next year? I'm not even playing like am I sprung if we're loan right now, we could be having a baby and six to seven months like. Well, there's some scientific issues with that. I I hate to I hate to break into. Although these days, you never know, but you can decide to have a baby late. But that doesn't mean it's going to come early. You know? Well, and yeah out game is strong. But I haven't been implementing it. She's like, no you haven't. I mean this. We had now science. We have we we did see Pasia park the birther baby. After only five months full grown, baby. Also, I wanna point at this point Cynthia and one of our listeners, I mentioned this before we started recording one of our listeners also point this out on our Facebook group watch live and loving it. Join it cynthia's wearing a little like not door knocker necklace. And I couldn't help but wonder if that was one of Reagans pendants from southern charm New Orleans, and if anyone could find confirmation about that I would love that. Because it's been on my mind. The things that fill our minds that regular store knocker on. Newell. So she's like, you're cut off your drunk, and he's like sit in the corner with Tamari, which I love say detail. Okay. I'm. Yeah. Even he's being shaded to Chamari Porsche Amari. She's just well see some Lixin though because that comes in and she comes in with flowers somewhere. Like if I was broke. I would not be walking up in here with some expensive flowers. Yeah. She gives that look to the camera. I like some Ari, and I like Tanya, I think they just need more time to warm up. Yeah. Well, I think time is like, you know, she is a good friend of because you just happy and sweet and just so excited to be there and Chamari I hope that she gets in season because I've just grown to enjoy as little drunk in the corner having fun at else's not not everyone else expense. But when everyone else is fighting, she's just eating, you know, food and getting drunk, and honestly, that's like I said before that's been the most entertaining thing. So finally, it's TIME TO REVEAL the baby gender and Dennis. I like I'm like it's sex gender that I can say gender. So Dennis is making a speech like, which is a really charismatic speech. Like just one of. Thanks for coming hotdogs in the corner. Get whatever else you want. Thanks, everyone. So now, it's like they all get like these like confetti guns, and the confetti is gonna show like, you know, the sex of the baby so they find like this three to one, and they all pop their confetti guns, and there's like pink, purple confetti everywhere. I guess Porsches was Baluch. She's going. It's just like having existential crisis. But then she finds that she's having a corn dog and she's super excited. Yeah. So bunch of hot dogs. Bunch of hot dogs her mom. Get Sarah gets hit in the eye with the corn dogs. Oh. But going win. So let's see. So then it's Cynthia is. Okay. So is this where ni I guess maybe says that later so I'll wait till then so three hours until cynthia's party. So it goes into check on this party. She's worked really hard for which means she didn't have. She just showed up secrets did everything they've got trees. Look there's trees and Mike is like there's water on the floor pay. That'd be wasted believing. That made me laugh so hard. What are the, you know? It's still fancier than anything that Peter put together what are on the floor. You know, it was Peter it'd be some of sticky ash it so yes as India's like she's like this launch my first signature flavor. And I don't want it to be my last. I wanna see peach leans, all over the United States. No kitchen island should be without a peach leaning. I think it will be. So the party starts getting together and stuff and you'll vonda that bitch from Clark is there. And guess what time she comes in? Having the best time ever. Everywhere and says the Mike show up and Mike is wearing khakis and the polo like tucked in. I was like Kate. Yard a party, right. Where theme so they're all dressed crazy and cynthia's wearing one of those Madonna straw hat things for back in the day. And Eva comes in some cut off Jean shorts and little short shorts and suit. Yeah. This party was together. Very last second. They're like we if need he's not gonna show for the gender reveal where he going to be mad at somebody for no reason to make sense thinks she has a drink. Yeah. Exactly. So then Mike's Mike's mom, but base invited all of his family. So a bunch of his cousins and his parents, or yet mom, I don't know all these relatives. And these like. A lot of family a lot. And then it's like, okay, that's funny. And then we likes it. And her say hi to all do we really have to watch her Salo to every single person. It was pretty funny. 'cause I it's like, I the mom, then the brother Dudley, grandma, think Cornell cousin didn't viola the cousin. She's. So doesn't the end Greg come in next? And of course, I'm sorry. Not Anini Ninian, Greg walk in and Nina congratulates herself just for showing up to her friends party. She's like being what cynthia's closest friends? I don't feel good not showing up for her. I just want to support her like a sister would Mike. Yeah. By making all about you is that is that how sisters? Forces that because every single event this year means been like, I'm not gonna go. I'm not gonna go. I can't bed ago Nolan's. No, okay. I'll come like she's thing every single time. She comes the last second. Like everybody's supposed to throw you fucking party just for getting out of bed. Yeah. Exactly. Tax on a robe Mimi. Yeah. So yes, so need is like being such a martyr. You know, showing up to support even though she does not want to be there. Whatever what else would you be doing? So. Yeah. Like the chick from all in the family. Tonya, Tara, I just I just I just. Downgraded her to Sut Sally Struthers immediately. I just see him. She's gloria. Sally Struthers, by the way. What does she have to? I don't know. I think we need unearth her. I don't have. I don't have real TV anymore. So I can't watch late night things. She's crying and stuff. I don't think he even does that anymore. Let's see. What is Sally Struthers upset me? Check in her. I am db of Simpson's at any recent credits. Because I think I think we need to get her in like a novelty real that would make me really happy. So she was in she's in a new TV series. Great, look, she's she's working, right? When you think you can did somebody for not working anymore there? They all ten series. Channel code will Christmas have come okay. It's called the show's called in security with the dash between the end in the security and her episode is called what's it like in there? Oh god. God. Eighty what? To like, okay. That's the entire episode. People really wanted to see Sally Struthers again. Exactly. Okay. So Shamir comes in wearing a bikini. She's with Dennis Porsche. And everyone's super mice to Greg because he hasn't been out, you know, so everyone's being supervised to him and means just ordering Greg around like a dog. She's like here. Yes. This sitting. Minis a fucking monster. And it cracks me up that need left this episode acting like the victim. I mean, it was pricing, but who Larry to the degree this. He did. And she has this new thing on YouTube. It's like inside means closet. She just sits in her closet. Mike doesn't after show yourself. She's trying to like own own that clauses situation. Now trying to be like seeing you can come in here when I say, you can yes abortion should Mia Dana's walking portion should me are like they're like the full on like double pregnancy coming down the aisle. This is a big big night for pregnant ladies so need that she didn't go to Porsche's event because she's support knee says she's supportive and Porsche is always the one that's not supportive of the other girls. So she wasn't going to support Porsche which way of saying Porsche get doesn't have to go to doesn't have to shoot things. I'm not gonna shoot at her shit. Yes. Just like to point out the Porsche one. Who organized the trip to see me. So in Miami. Organize like a trip did Porsche go to her store thing. She did write also door opening thing. Yeah. So. Yeah. Meaning news. This has been Nina's whole issue, which is that like, you know, there are women at the bus stop who have like a baby and their arm and one in the belly. And they're still getting done and poor set who she can't do anything, which I actually think as fair point. But at the same time. Stop does to be good person. Fuck that. No. Meaning that like, you know, there are definitely like, you know, like, you know. I can definitely see Porsche. Like, everything is like, I'm pregnant. I can't I'm pregnant I can't. But at the same time, it's like would you wanna go shoot a reality show, if you're pregnant would you wanna be lying in bed? But she was also at the by week party granted, eighteen hours eight or whatever it was. But she still went full ship has been Oliver staff. That's true. So then she's means like, well, I didn't go to your event. I mean portion of okay, and she's still going to sit there and be nice and not be a deck like you. So she's like, I think go to your vent Porsches like, oh, that's okay. Why even feel that? She has no just wasn't gonna go and porches. Like, she doesn't care. She's not gonna let her get to it. And she goes can I have some of this drink allergy alcohols in pre present James? Everybody starts talking about how cynthia's drink has no alcohol in it. Yeah. It's basically the equivalent of Kenya's Kenya. Hair care. It's water is at least flavoring she's still above Kenya. Exactly. So so Greg is now eating solid food. He just start eating solid food again. So all like all the men are like standing around Greg and graduating him and stuff, and he's like eating food and goes, this tastes better than my wife used to taste like real classy, Greg. Classic a wellness. Check on Greg because you know, he got killed after that. Right. Mark took a hammer to him. I'm not sure you tasted. So great, Greg. Honestly. Yeah. So then candy comes in with Kenya. And Kenya, of course is so laugh laugh. On drag race whenever the commercial, and you hear rupaul that whatever. It's like that's like the Kenya is the Kenyan more version like a spectral laugh. Fuck in Kenya. And she comes in. So can you you know? Go straight up to Greg. Because he knows it's going to piss off any any says, oh, I think monsters here, which, you know, just I I know this is just a big long episode hating on the, but I really do like I I was expecting to have better one liners since she I me too. I think like her miners are like not that good. She's like good in in the in the diary room, or whatever. But like her one liners are just they're not strong, you know, not strong, and this is coming from someone like, and I'm not a good one liner. So I get it. But like your comedian. You're doing stand up you have good one liners Meaney. So then we went to commercial and we come back, and it's like a horror movie replay of the Kenya. Laugh. Did you notice that? Yeah. Silence. Silence. It's like Jason voorhees noise. Then he made outside like like. Like that you'll be in the cabin. So. Kenya? Blah, blah. She's just saying. Hi, everybody and makes kisses all around and candy. Can't shady ass. Candy is like now, Cynthia you said she wanted Kenya here and here see is brought to you making it impossible for Cynthia back out of this later because she knows since he's going to try to back out of this later, you know, right? And so, but of course, Nina's like Niimi media force though is in full victim mode. Now, she's like this is a bunch of bullshit that sent his do what Cindy is doing concerns yet every opportunity to tell me did she did not tell me because she did not want me to know about Kenya being there. I'm like, yeah. I kind of get that in a weird way. But at the same time didn't you surprise the whole group like three years ago in the Bahamas, or whatever when they're having that group dinner, and you showed up and Cynthia range that and you're the one who go Andy's baby shower when you threw this party with other housewives and only current housewives provided yet you brought. Faye drew? I didn't tell anybody. But he knows he's got like a major issues with people. Yeah. Just like knee seems to be okay with it. If she's the one who is being like the surprise thing because you know, why? Because on it to your fucking party after she got just got in a fight. With Eva come on ni. How many examples do we need to give you you fucking hypocrite? Well, because the issue is that basically Kenya's having a star moment and ne-near wants to be the star. And that's what the issue is. That's what boils down to also foolish shit. The whole episode started with her saying she's mad at Kenya. Because can use or she's mad at Cynthia because cynthia's too close with Kenya. And blah, blah, blah. Why were you talking about it so much, and why were you threatening not to go to her party in the first place? So so needs just sitting there MRs like so middle school. Okay. And Marlow like Marla comes and sits down next to Amy and like says something like Cynthia was sitting here before her friend. God here, you know, stupid. And was like, oh, why didn't even see Kenya? And she's just like vomit face, which is again like Marlowe, you're better than that. Like one thing that my shade line. No, she's good. No meeting that she's up. She could be funnier. Yeah. Shady line my face the cameras. Be morally better. I just meant that like she can do better than vomit face. Yeah. But then she dousing Bill. She's like, oh, can you notice you you look beautiful and Kenya's like how can you not know this? Yeah. So then forces like Kenya. I didn't expect you the way that drafted nine months 'cause it's like the skin tight dress. And he got us me. Neither Honey and avant. Yvonne, you're von looks at them. Like, you people are disgusting. And I'm gonna that bitch from Clark, I'm that bitch from clerk, and even I'm disgusted by you. So Cynthia goes and gives a speech she needs to thank the village for lifting her up into a blaze of glory over Bolini. So she's giving us speech and she's giving a shout out to like everyone. She's like she's like gotta give a shout out to candy Yana the person sitting next to knee the person's need behind need for sitting in front of. For sitting in front of. Caterer over there missing. Anyone still? Porsches party wherever you are. You did a great job. Yeah. Still lady was great. Hey, the those two those two people from Papa John's who put this together. Great work. We love this party on the floor the water on the floor. Jill jill. I wanna thank Peter. Why not I think Leon I'll think unfair. 'cause Kenya is. So can yes, she comes here. Of course, he knows she's going to infuriate me says, she just doesn't more and more with. And this example, I really like it. Do you see this is why the fuses me doesn't look like it dent in my face look here. No, actually, the lighting is really wonderful on your right now. But what I was gonna dent in my face. It's weird. Sorry, everybody. Your body is probably reacting to all this needs. No. But this is what you're sort of. You're sort of like sliding into say they're a little bit was what I was trying to say the being the episode is that like Kenya? Sort of knows had do that like. Like that annoying evil like obnoxious. Irritating thing to piss someone off like she's like ha with their smile, and she just takes the microphone because he knows it's going to piss off media. While we hate her. And yet the way she effortlessly, and sort of just does it without even caring compared to any with all the bluster. And I'm a victim victim. It's just like, I mean, it's more fun. Yeah. So she's like, well, thank you. I just want to say thank you for coming to support, my friend. She's a mobile I'm Kenya. More. Thank you for gumming. Just cut to menia and Marlow. Je sipping their drinks all bitterly like marches, March Simpson sisters. Yeah. Smoking section in a restaurant, and he needs like it's weird that Cynthia would be allowing Kenya to speak. It's just another way to be fucked up friend as far as I'm concerned. I'm like Kenya. Walked up to the Mike. It's not like Cynthia said, I now I would like Kenya's to say something Kennett walked up. Okay. You could've walked up to okay. This is so stupid. So then cynthia's like, and then my friend, Greg is here quick, Greg whis creek which critic, Greg. Break starts to go up. You know? So he starts to go up. And he's like, no stop said. Now in around Doug itself keys, Greg is right here. So then Cynthia was like, you know, she felt embarrassed that she's bragging and there wouldn't come up on stage. And Cynthia goes, you know, I guess need just didn't want him to have that moment. Which is true. It's like that would have been whatever knee was feeling that would have been a nice moment for Greg and knee mated about herself, which is so obnoxious. Here's a guy who's been battling cancer. And who truly does need a village to lift him up into a blaze of glory any wouldn't allow them to have that because she's mad at Cynthia for letting letting Kenya speak. It's just it's so awful. So ni okay. So ni having offend. She was like, I am I leaving. I told you this girl was and you know, ni does that thing where she's like I'm leaving. And she makes her she has like Greg fanning her so that her Roble fly all over. And then she doesn't leave is like. She says she's not gonna come. Then she comes then she says she's gonna leave and she's not going to leave. Yeah. Exactly. So this right. It gets really shady. So she stars in a way that I support by the way say this right now running I support this in lane. Why after you explain what happens I'm confused about it, which seems pretty self explanatory. And I'm dumb for being confused, but I still because Mienies having a fit and thanks trying to storm out which means she's walk into the hallway and standing there until somebody begs her to come back. Right. So then see Cynthia whispering to chill, and she's like, oh, I'm supposed to act like I didn't know she was coming. Sade. But also, what do you mean you're supposed to act like she's not coming who told you that with? Your say, I would not be surprised if production said she's coming. But we wanted to act like you don't know like it could be as something as simple as that. And then they make it seem like she and candy plan this whole thing. But like in my mind, even even at its if you take it. It's worse form that she in candy plan this and that she planned to have Kenya. Come but didn't want lip. She's acting like like she's surprised by it. Like, that's for sure that's bad. And like that's where I said before like Cynthia is a weak person. And that's our biggest flaw because she she puts herself in a situation like this. But at the same time, she's I I also feel like she's in this situation because of Niimi because Nina's so unreasonable that if she told me guess, hey, I just wanna give you heads up can is gonna come the, Nina. He's not gonna come to the party, and she wants her friend to be at the party, and she doesn't want to have to choose. So she just gonna like sort of like do a little white lie. Like, oh, I didn't know she was coming that way. She can have both our friends there. And it's ridiculous that one friend would put her in that. -sition over something so petty as a stupid thing on Instagram. Yeah. I mean, I I guess I get why knee would be mad but fuck Nina, you, don't get control every situation. And I'm like it's a head bitch and charts. She's like posting on. She's just obnoxious. Whatever you don't get to choose everything. You don't get to cast everything all the time lady. Yeah. Exactly. They do. Move. Sorry, sorry. But the other thing that it's like it's like, yes. So again, if we're taking us on face value, like Cynthia is being a shady dishonest friend in that moment, but I almost feel like Nina's like an abusive person, I feel like need is emotionally abusive to Cynthia and as a result like, you know, like Cynthia like has to her survival mechanism is that she has a sneak around and like to do what she wants to do. She has sneak around into it behind the needs back. Just to just on that point to that point wasn't the season that need brought on Peter or her house to talk shit about Cynthia. So fuck off Meany. Okay. You just did that this how while Ronnie? You just I mean like, it just gets worse and worse and worse than telling you the way my memory works is not well. So when the yeah, it's just like they keep coming. It's like every five minutes. Like, oh, here's another thing. You did this season. Like, you don't even have to reach back far to find him. You know? Yeah. So then they're all doing limbo is kind of the end of the. Where everybody's like. Here's what I learned this season. The best one to me was when they got to Semari and she's like in the last couple of months of biggest lesson. I've learned. Aebischer super up before I answer this. Just get out there put yourself out there. That's what she learned to out there. How about so, Katie? Okay. To talk about like being lesbian, while I'm still married to someone with babies at home. How about that? Yeah. So yeah. The the the the little you know, when they put our head in a box, and they say, they don't basically put her head into box. What's in the bucks? But they put smart they said this update on her life is Chamari and Ronnie are Hosea married for lifelock Atlanta in April and her three drink minimum remains in effect. So she still drunk and she's doing for lifelock. That's just what want when you're when you're thinking about committing to someone for life swamp ass. Thanks, those like what sort of charity is that. Like, what is what sort of? Support marriage for life. Why don't you support like like little like suffering animals or children who aren't in homes or people who have diseases not a walk for like long? Marriages. It sounds like a swingers walk anyway. Well, maybe it's like a maybe maybe it's like a pro-life thing. Who knows maybe it's like some weird abortion thing. Oh god. We don't need that today. Okay now. So then Porsche welcomed a hotdog friend says candies. I've just this. I'm trying to find the good stuff here. Okay. So Nina, of course goes outside and she's trying to pretend she sobbing, which we see you Mimi. Okay, fine. She's trying really hard. Okay. But may have been. Normal. She's doing it on the step and repeat. Tonight, notice that I noticed that she was really really trying to squeeze out those. Here's like really hard, and they were not coming and so Kenya. Kenya? Lobbing often repeat. Attempting so Kenya walks by and she gets candy kiss on the chiefs. They buy big like she does not like big like that that we've seen where you close up your hand. Like a like a scallop shell, you know. And so she's like just doing the big by thing like one hand clap thing, and then kisses canton, she totally ignores Niimi, which was actually a very needy leaks move. But it's also classic Kenyan move and everything. And so it came to know Riley. And you didn't say goodbye. And so can you it was like, no, I I think if I'd everybody speedy recovery, Greg. You're always in my prayers and then just like walked away. Again, totally not acknowledging any good me was just a total asshole tour in public again, which I can't believe I'm sticking up for any. That's what you've done to me. I mean, and then he goes, and then he goes she's going to have a water buffalo. So I have a buffalo, isn't she? And it's like, oh, well, it's like a it's not like a really clever or funny remark and be it's like you're gonna make fun of. Like her for being pregnant. I mean, I know a lot of times people when women are pregnant it's like you'll say like, oh my God. I got there's something in a huge thing. And there, you know, whatever you'll make whatever joke will. But it's not like a mean-spirited thing. It's like a joke that you in the mom have you know, but like knee was trying to read her. She's like fat seeming pregnant people any such a dick, and we'll get to these Instagram messages in a second because she does it again. She's just a she's just an asks. Okay. Especially when she has some of the biggest children I've ever seen in my life, by the way. So well candies like, I want you guys to be a better place. And you know, you still have your friends in common needs trying to cry. And she's like don't let distress get candies being really nice. But of course, I find out that. Kathy. Shady s candy helps at this up. Yeah. So now, I mean, there's some other updates that are just as boring as you'd imagine is like a got some chewing gum. So the next day Cynthia. So we see this really weird thing which is funny because the episode aired on the twenty year anniversary of the matrix coming out, and it was a very matrix moment, like a call from like trinity or something like that. Or like. Some like morpheus, but it's actually Cynthia calling Gandhi because we just see like we just sound waves. You know, it's like matrix waves, and it's just like Cynthia being like, I'm on the phone. Got a. I know this one make sure on the same page. I want to set up can you got there and just like just like Boca waves. And I'm like I was expecting the vocal waves like like raw like explode over it. And then suddenly were in the matrix. And to me, it was like a Netflix murder documentary. You know, where they're framing somebody just see this like duty. I might I might I also want to out your that that this fund little like topbid here of them talking the phone. It's like not the that's it. No follow-through. We doesn't come back again. Maybe maybe they put it in there for the reunion. But I didn't really understand why I was in there any set on her which I did not get a screen shot of this. But on Instagram last night as I mentioned earlier, she was like, oh, the most finale of a wait till you see what they've done to be. And the producers at least gave me a little rope. Meaning they showed some of her side of it. But you know, what that thing is like give them enough rope to hang themselves stupid. Yeah. So I'll say this also, by the way, all that conversation proved that they're like, okay. We're gonna go film with knee. Now, she can't try to get get mad that Kenya was there, and we just be on the same page of wash there because it's like if we're on the same page. Age then it'd be a whole thing. You know? Yes. So Tanya Meany who's done nothing. But take a wrecking ball the Tanya, and so nasty to this. She's a fucking monster. But really who else does she have the call? She just dish forces thing who was like her little sister. So she can't call her. She has no other friends in the cast. She's totally screwed. You can't call Marlow because she knows that Marlo is gonna make it all about herself. Yeah. She asked to call the person she's been mean to we'll also like she has a invite Tanya to this sit down because Tanya is like the nice one. And so it makes me look nice. She's trying to run to some of her niceness for herself. Yeah. So. Candy show up like it's just going to be a really fun lunch. You know, cynthia's like what you were any. I mean, he goes out Capri say like all mass, I'm going to order a capris the every time like that. Now. Really? Mispronunciation? I can't by the way before the end candy. Shop Nina is again, she's like she's so she's nervous. She's nervous the friendship and she's just like. Like Porrini poor ni that this friendship is going to end because she's been in immature troll for so many years poor naming and you need us her thing again where she walks off and tries to get someone to follow her. And nobody follows the corner. Everyone knows your fucking tricks. You've already use that like three times in this one episode. Okay. Yeah. They're also like some fast food looks like a fast food restaurant where you normally have to order at the counter, and this that there with a member at a fast casual restaurant. I also notice that I was like why are you at a fast casual restaurant right now. What are you doing? Why are you at the veggie grill for this conversation? Why? So they're trying to better knee up and be nice. And be like, oh, we love your robe, and she's like swag. You know, give them like a horrible lick. And then. Turns into Kenya. Right. So. Cynthia what's wrong Meany? Okay. You stormed off like ten times sending these like, well, I know that these girls are here, but I wanna conversation with you. Because lately, something has happened in our friendship. You haven't been the same friend to me as you have your other friends. Yeah. And your other friends start a lot of stuff like once again. Let's just reiterate Kenya posted one stupid thing on Instagram for crying out loud system. Feels like listen, I won't be in the middle. I don't wanna be a middle need. He goes. Yes. But you have to be neutral. And you know, like, I have been neutral, and he goes, well, you stand up for her, and for instance, Bailey Q bail, which by the way cracking up that they referred to as the Bali cue, which is like no one can make fun of no one can make fun of candidate valley. Q? You're never for me. You never stood up for me. And like any this. This is all stupid little question thing. Like, are you serious right now that stupid little Instagram question? This is what you're mad about ready much. So then she's like, I really want to understand, you know, I don't want to argue with you. But when you did your winery thing, you knew Kenya system like you can you with coming or whatever she's like, I did not know. Oh, this is the Bolini thing. I'm sorry. So well, you knew that can you was gonna come and candies. Like, she did not know. She's like no had no idea. So then she kinda changes, and she's like, well, I invited her. But I didn't know that she was gonna come. Yeah. See, and this is where this is where Cynthia her weakness also works against her because she really let's knee control the story like, Nina, mixie's accusations. And then Cynthia is always responding to them. And then changing her story instead of cintas. Just be like me get over yourself. You're being so much for right now, you're like she put ne-near on the defensive but Nina's really good. It's being on the offensive and cynthia's really bad about getting out of defensive Cynthia. Well, Cynthia did better than she normally does because. Yes, time she's like, listen, I have the right to invite people to my party and Meany won't let her get away with that. She's like, well, but I should have the privilege of knowing watch all talk about God. You've never given anybody that privilege at bar. Yeah. Yeah. Cynthia's like, we'll let me speak. I am spe- typical fucking. Meaning just talking over you the whole time. Exactly it also. So candy, basically said candy till ways with her story, which is she's like, you know, Cindy didn't know Kenya was going to be there. And then candy talked to Kenya. Into coming to the party. But Kenya made candy promise not to tell anyone wishing to little little. Yeah production. So basically what we find out is that Cynthia Cynthia says that Meany has been had been acting distant to her ever since the went to Kenya's baby shower. So I mean, can you imagine Niimi this this monster who would be mad at you for going to someone's baby shower? Okay. Like now, listen, I would be mad that I was invited to a baby shower baby showers are like really like they are like the seven circle of hell to me. But you know, they're still important things for people. And it's like it's for baby. So like would you ever be mad at someone for going to someone's baby shower that is just? The height of headedness. Yeah. Sure. Meaning that's your Niimi. He see like IRAs when somebody misbehaves, it's yours. That is your knee bend. You did this band. Yeah. So yes, this is me just screaming and yelling and acting like an asshole cynthia's like why are you acting like I'm doing all of this just to make you mad like I have better things to do in my life and give you a recent scream at me in a restaurant. You know? And she goes, I'm sorry for not giving you a heads up any ads, you should an I am polish ising. I love you, Nina. Because now she does follow her out storms out again. And also mentioned that while they were screwing everything needs big point of contention was like like who did you call when you need it a flyer? You called me did you call your other friends to get a flyer? I'm like, this is really over flyer. Like, she like you put her in touch with someone who knows Photoshop. Oh, I thought she was single flight. Like, maybe ni got her. Oh, I thought she meant like an out flyer. Like she needed a fly flyer. Never know flyer better and Cynthia like like, she's so she follows her out she apologizes 'cause I love you Uni. I'm your friend. She gets what you should apologize. When you did that it was wrong. And that's I wrong thing. You did. And the second wrong thing you did is you had her on a microphone here thing. I didn't know she was coming up and taking the microphone. Yeah. And she just like, oh my God. It's like a small because she's looking at she's looking around the table. Like, oh my God. This is crazy. Like, I didn't know she gave the microphone, and he goes, I don't think that funny. I'm like. Like, how is it? Not funny. How are you like so dead serious about this right now? Right now. I it's shocking when he says, I dealing with so much knowing the buck out of that. Dealing with a lot bless you finally said it glad she probably let it out. Good lord. So she lease Cynthia follows her out and she's like. Just forgive me. Please be more neutral. She's like. I wanna feel like this. And you've made me feel like this. The I mean, he's like I got you on the I get. Done with our on done with me. I've had enough clear her ask. Amu- Cynthia you don't need this. You have better friends. You've got like you got a cute guy who has as like as a smart dude with a decent career. And you're doing more importantly, you're doing good things. And you got better friends. You don't need Meany. Okay. Needs you more than you need, Nina. Yeah. Well, you've got to you got a cinder signature drink. Okay. Okay. Now as promised. Now. This is this is for all of you people fighting for knee. K now I don't know what order these this. It's going to be a little choppy as I look I can I can I think I will be able to help because I've actually read these before. So the first one so Porsche Anini had some issue. I don't know what caused this. But knee sent Porsche a whole bunch of text messages and Nina starts off by saying, you know, what caused it. I'm sorry to interrupt you. It's because the closet scene where Meany goes into the where knee rips agai cert- off because crew was going into her closet, and then pour show, you know, was in there. And then he said on her closet show. She said that she didn't attack anybody in there. And that it was all a big lie. And that Porsche recorded herself saying I'm scared or whatever portion. Macleod's it like I want to get out of here. I'm scared. She recorded that in the studio, and then they splice that over the footage and Porsche was like that. It's not true. I actually that actually happened. I said that what are you talking about? So the NEA came for her on histogram. Yeah. So the first text was. From ni you lying as big fat hungry bitch. You know, I never put my hands on you Marlowe, Cynthia nor candy can ever say that you want an excuse for going in my closet without my permission. So you can talk yo fake shit on all you want. But remember my house is lit with cameras. Oh, and don't forget who was by your side and saved yo wack ass when you pulled Kenya off the sofa. Don't forget nobody fucked with you in San Fran or in Spain. But meet if you got something to say say the truth because if I put my hands on you, you will know it a hundred percent. So then we just kill with this point out that San Francisco the trip that needs screamed yelled at Porsche so bad that her wig fell off her head. Okay. Exactly. Exactly. So then and then follow up with. Oh. And remember, you had your hair flipped over thin, bald spot, I have hair. But if I don't I have enough money to buy all, the wigs and extensions. I want. And then go I'm not reading that bullshit. You know, being I'm well, I'm recorded. I aim, you know, damn well, I aim recorded. The I know studio to set you up kiss my ass. How do you make that claim? I would not conspire no shit like that. I'm reading all that bullshit. And then she and then she serves sends the same text again by accident. And then she adds with an asterisk the how was better you'll lying hit me type too fast. So then Leany goes. Did he goes you so full of shit go? Enjoy your one time three episode commercial referring to Porsche's new spin off about having the baby. And then Porsche says. Oh, I thought you were going to be portions part goes all out of order. Oh, yeah. Now, these are out of order, but seven Porsche goes you enjoy it too. And then Nina goes, I had twelve episodes and trust I won't watch not one of yours. Too busy securing the bags. So then, and then she says, and you know, you recorded that. But that's okay. Yours is coming import says. No, I did not you are sick to believe that that that that. But I really don't give it Bigham by girl, Nina goes, you did. But it's okay. Oh, your day is coming just like it has in the past. I'm a lot of things what I don't do is fuck over people in live for no reason. That's just a makeup. You wear. Remember on the H B? I see that you want to be by bitch. And it says and happy and blessed edges is like. So good. And then there's like some more. There's like some more like a little bit more back and forth because that will need. He goes good night. Big piggy with the busted shape, which is like like going back to that. Like, oh, like should have better one liners like, yeah. So then Porsche goes. Yes. She goes girl. I know you in them. Granddaddy, long leads and bucks body. Not coming from my body. Daddy, long legs box like Porsche. Laffy faces in the heart. Does long pretty legs and been fine. You worry about them extra small baby ankles, you rock, and hopefully they hold up that giant body. Try dieting, that's something. You have never been good at God. Fat shaming someone who had a baby six days ago. Me what an awful awful person. But this also solidified my love for Porsche. Yeah. I do not feel bad for sticking up for all these years because look at this font of beauty. She gave horse really destroyed of these tax. Also, I have to say we didn't mention this. But when he said, I had twelve episodes and trust I won't watch not one of yours. Too busy securing the bags Porsche respond with that with a little smile growing. Talking out is screwed up. Like, I love that Porsche. That's how Porsche response that is like knee. Does not know like any does not know how to handle this right now. You're a like a pig. Like, no that's not nearly like like, but it's just like not as she's just not. She just not. Ahead she's badly. You know, once you stop letting the bully bully you and you start hitting back. Look they just start sobbing then shit yesterday. Like, how could they did all this to me? And then she was doing that thing retyping out on your iphone and take a screen shot. And then post that you know, so people react Victor s she she had to and she's just going on about what a victim. See isn't how everyone screwed her over, and blah, blah, blah, and the comments ripped Meany to shreds. I was really a couple who were like, oh, you're right you, but so is your you started at the art sow they do this at the SAT. But most of them were like, no one cares about your fifty year old asked drama when Dipsy just died. You know, they're going off on her because the yesterday was a really bad day. And she's like making it all about this stuff. And they just ripped her to shreds so bad that she deleted it because it's not there anymore. So yeah, classic meaty. So that's the story. That's the story with with with. Lanta? So I guess we now have about ten reunion episodes to watch no kidding. So we're not going to do a full project runway this week, as you know, this needed our time and attention, but basically project runway did a pattern challenge. And a couple of weird things in this episode for me one I started like Hester, which really yeah is confusing. I I don't like to flip the script like that one minute annoying thing in the world. And then she solidifies by telling us her backstory where she went to fashion school. And she was so weird and wacky. And just wasn't being given the attention or the time that she needed because apparently like having breakdowns in class and was like being a snowflake fuck this girl. But then of course, by the Mike I like her she's my she's not so bad. Yeah. I know she was telling your story about like that her her style of sewing bother her professor so much the professor had her expelled from fashion school. And then it caused her to have a lot of like insecurities cetera shut up Hester. And then when she started putting like win her thinking down the runway like who I like that. It's actually really good, and I was actually happy for her because it was like the first, you know, the past two weeks we've been we've been making fun of her for having this wacky whimsical aesthetic. And then everything she puts out has been like dreary or like normal. And so it was like, okay. Finally. So I was happy that she finally put out something that was like her style. So I was happy for that. Shoot looked like a tablecloth at Rudy's barbecue to me her her her off, it was a great. But just as a personality. She wasn't mad. You know, Carly clause is also she is now starting to be more comfortable, and so she's getting goofy IRS. So she keeps coming whenever. She walks out on the runway. She's like. Turning at the time. Yeah. Basically. Yeah. I don't have any hatred for her. I'm still not totally on her side. Just because she walks too hard. I don't like it. I don't like when people walk did them, boom do them. Okay. Yeah. Exactly. We also got a new new mentor on the show. Name is marny Senator Fontaine who is like she's dials like beyond say and important people. So she's like now going to be like their styling consultant and everything so people were very excited about this at cetera. So she'll be someone. We'll we'll we'll have today. Right. She forever. They said she'll be around for the for the full competition, which is soon what's the whole like should not necessarily every episode, but she'd be popping in win there. Laura get some some high profile where? Wasn't that? Laura hall. Did look a lot like sex unique podcast. I was like, oh my God this girl. Maybe it's like her cool factor too. Because Laura has a really high cool factor where I'm like am I entered arrest? But I was like you go, Laura. Yeah. So so yes, they had to head to toe like single prints, look, which is hard because it's very easy to look like an old lady old lady fashion when doing it. So one of the people Araca on rock con recon. He was like he picked out like the the most boring sad pattern, a very standard pattern that you've seen like a million places to me. It looked like the pattern that someone like a lady at my synagogue would wear as she's like assembly people like Tuesday night meeting to discuss like, you know, someone's event that they're going to be having at the Schule on over the weekend. It's like definitely like like business like bit like old lady business suit pattern, and he took it and only was it a bad pattern. It was barely even a pattern by the way better than a print. And then he liked rate on his model in these weird bunched up way, and it's just like hideous. I thought he should have gone home. I think his was that bad. I know that he didn't have his crazy patterns, but I don't maybe I'd just like him 'cause your minds me me. He's just like really big doesn't wanna go outside ever. And when Christians like that looks like grandma out that he's like, but I love my grandma. I think he's cute when they were ripping it apart. She's like Nina's like the back is gorgeous. But the panther unexplainable. And then Carly's like, yeah, it's monotone which is kind of five Rahmat. No stott. Ironic. Okay. Carly's just gonna be back kind of hosts. Yeah, she just going to say things. Okay. So nadine. This was a bad episode for a dean what an asshole. Yeah, it's eighteen being his because no one does the dishes, but her and then I had a feel. I thought it was going to be Garo. 'cause you know, how they have tricky editing on these shows they made it look like it was going to be Garo Spero who went home. Previews and then it opened with Nadine going. I'm just I just don't even want to be here because I miss my children. And I'm like, oh, no when they say, they miss their children. They're out after like three days, Kamara and then she fat shamed. Her model she got really upset because she got the big model. She's like I love my design, but not my model, and like she was being mean to the model about it. So mean. So me, so me she's like walk just supposed to be taught. He can't walk practice at home. Yeah. Yeah. Nino's like she's like, it's feels feels almost as if you improve is he or she was like, no, I did not improvise. No, no, no. I have sketches in everything goes. Oh, well, then for me. It's just an issue of taste of what you have non. Yes. She's like well sketched it this way. But then I got this model. She's all nasty Brandon's like high. You can't make people feel like that when you're dressing them. So and then during the runway show or before I should say in the runway show, she was sitting next to regain. She's like, oh my God. Look at that. What she says, she's she said, she can't even walk. She said something like that. Like look at that walk. Look she can't even walk and the Rene was like yet because it's not even a walk. It's a Gallup. Yeah. You too. Yeah. They're they're they're pretty harsh. Yeah. Exactly. And by eighteen was just so she was so obnoxious because she was like, well, you know, like, you know, I couldn't I couldn't do what I wanted to do because I had a larger model, and I didn't want to print that was to board make her look even larger than she already wise. I mean like who wants to see a big fat woman coming on a runway on my right, everyone the my rights eating. Gareth narrow also may because he's like, yeah. I'm like, I come from like rave culture, which initially like him Mike there so 'nineties like so nineties rave I was like and so he used this hideous like pink and purple wide-stripe thing that was like inherently ugly. And then he was like mad diagnosed else does drives and that he set himself up for like I thought we're supposed to be challenging ourselves here. And like, I'm the only one who's trying to challenge themselves. I'm like you have made someone you may the Cheshire Cheshire cat. Okay. Like like, please don't make us like feel like you've accomplished something here. I was kind of a jackass he's on the New York designer, and I'm the one he's had the most success here. So I feel it's my responsibility. Okay. I can't wait to see you have branded Jazzercise. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah. So he was he was in the bottom. But it was, but ultimately was Nadine who basically Nina's wrath who was like if you are designing a woman with curves. Why would you do these phony pants? I don't like that pants. Not flattering dot com. Away looking back at my notes, I seldom give a one, but guess what may dean God? That was so good Sunday. Dean, usually I don't like I don't love watching people. Go home on the show because it's a show that requires talent, you know. And so when they leave it's like, oh, they worked really hard. And I'm not saying they deem doesn't work really hard. But gosh, she turned out to be a major bitch. And then when she was leaving. I don't even care. Don't even give me any any a- Hoogly do believe, hugs or whatever. She's like, I don't want any of your pity, blah, just go then you fucking. Because Nina was like after the after she got Lebombo that was told she's out was like Nadine. We had a problem with what we had a problem with the fear. We had a problem with the overall static. And he's like, thank you stop. And we we all need knitting. Okay. I was going to ask her. How foul pretty much sums up. I was rooting for Nadine last week. 'cause I like she was stuck on this crazy team with. Hester, you know, and I was just like oh this. Kobe ended up doing really well. He almost wind came in second this week, and he was Likud densely dancy as he no reason not to be positive and was on Frankie's team last week. But either way I remember day like having deal with Hester. And actually, it was it was Rene and. It was Garo Rene and Garo where on the same team as Hester because has her use up all their fabric. I think I think last week was. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Either way. So it was a fun episode. We'll be back to recap more full episodes of that soon. We'll probably just updates because you know, this. Atlanta reunion is going to be insanity. Look, so good. See week by week. I everybody thinks so much for being here. We should love. Yeah. We'll be back. Tomorrow with pump rules will be on TV party tomorrow, which we are on right now. If you guys want to come on TV party to get the TV party app and follow at crap ins, and if you don't get to watch this in the day, you can always watch on crap on demand on patriotic. Alright everybody we should love you get your tickets for Phoenix important than this week. And we'll see the rest of you there. This is a cast recommends every week we picked one of our favorite shows. And this is one we think you're gonna love. This is Roscoe from the podcast and the writer is I'm excited to announce that season. 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Eurobash: Episode 56 (w/ Petr Yan, Brendan Loughnane, Sean Brady)

The MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani

1:36:23 hr | 1 year ago

Eurobash: Episode 56 (w/ Petr Yan, Brendan Loughnane, Sean Brady)

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Rampage Jackson will headline Delatour v Relative Banner is that blown yourself not me further daily one would have been a bit more crack and I mean even though the fourth way was absolutely tragic Derek Amazon's like six nine three he's got a couple of wins got a lot of performances in a he's he's coming into the fight in the back to wins he's got a lot of a lot of fights on the could go to Kansas all I think you know even even even even the bit of fresh air on the song I think just putting a better mood and ballot or London which will be headed by MVP and Derek Anderson and a big sign for brave in Orland Royne cordis pending Toro I watched every P versus Derek I'm there's enough Paul daily which many expected main event bell tower two three five in London Eh when we use your record so we had to take a little break for a week but now we're back how are you normal grab anyway so it's actually probably better we didn't do I was GonNa grow and buffer got home from my house foyt are good 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that because I talk about a tour with a sewing them up are you feel before we went on the air here artem La Baume will take on Jason wait a second time on November sixteen the believe I mean this is a lack of imagination early so chest infection peba fairplay great work again say don't home wrench excellent Stove Ozzy Ozzy Ozzy yeah it was actually and he'll be taking on Steve Baer of ex on the beach and big brother in the main event get the fuck Outta here this is mind it's just bullshit thanks so much to Chris Boyne for sharing this and saying it's going to be a big event but Moi word at Scotty I googled him he is a Geordie shore I am but look that's a huge for him I'm here Bazi is a serious voi- Abbasi juice losses I ever pro fight to what's Jose Torres isn't it short already tires these fights like Barney the dinosaur fighting against it's not children and I'm on it's not far off a dude it isn't really or a teeny bopper has to follow these youtube pages or whatever yeah well isn't that a great examples like Brody Fighting Credit Youtube Star fucking fight like an Easter for pro fighter Farren Dramatic Fashion Yeah Yeah I'm looking forward to getting down there for 'em Nathan Rose v Harry Hardwick also added to it on like Adam be Jason it's going to leak it it's kind of like that should be on the back burner for them when they're exactly so the fight there making already you're already ruined imagined that look I mean I don't understand what they want and then obviously Royne m. e. commands a big audience but I guess they don't need selling anyway you know it's GonNa be a big week for brave as well because obviously the the world championships are going down as well and we'll have another talking point from that to block that process is because they were knowing me so much like whatever what if what folk are people like I'm embarrassed for you if you watch these shit it's crazy but I don't think it's not for him I find Camonte says absolute garbage like they're going to be even given this brody air because it's funny on the screen Baron Okay listen I mean you've beaten Jay's already you've beaten polly Mylan is well we do next Paulie mates in the corners I know Jas Open Weight Tournament right so let me let me just give me a second the tar this one free so they're saying the belt the belt six and a half don't pay for Shit oversleeping watching this for the last couple of weeks and saying I'm just going to drop this in the Roy Time Fourteen Newcastle Eleven thousand people could always Cole Miller known featherweight Amir Ali Akbari heavyweight who has a history of failing drug tests and that's was he not obviously Sarah flu division because you have so many good guys like Jake highly gotTa win over Blaine o'driscoll goes emails donate ship on on if they want to go ahead with this guarantee I won't be supported I hope other hawks blows of gold for some reason let you can sell the fucking thing who cares for them listen to this and Marcel Dorf Big Marcel Twenty four on twitter ah few times and how much people he gets into an arena and stuff like that earns different this one but it's Scottie T- as big as the dealers as iron don't be well-known sort of like a great news in this sport especially in Europe is here he goes to fifteen chosen foreigners who make chance to fight in the form on tournament too is just obstinately fucking ludicrous shit and anyone who again wants to participate in this shares should get a slap in the face because it's absolute bullshit you are you ready for another one go on you're going to really enjoy this one brave offer November fifteenth just putting a Wyoming Focus in GonNa put on talk yourself and I won't be covering this this is obviously bullshit an Dan hope it ends up to be like a million go oil heavyweights I would not give a shit they really look like Scotties a big duty tall he's six four I just don't show tuning shipment seriously what a load of horse majority's he's like this other crap boxers on what they call these youtubers chaos I think they're only had a Monte is I don't know I find it very very strange and I'll tell you agree with you I think the air some good after policies rows this crop goes ahead on a call on everyone to am shown this shown this event because it's totally unsafe it's bringing this board Buck twenty years yeah it's pretty free weight is a folk out they've wait visit Barney sixteen celebrities are going to take each other that event in that arena and what is wrong with wilhelm which were that cell look I'm bear in mind Aaron chalmers has been blocked ourselves who basically call though every single person about this as he does fantastic stove on 'em the champion Henry Suharto he says he's GonNa make that's just a sample so is there any locally Arron bronze that are got straight on and he said he'd ask Jeremy Kennedy and he's not in it so this is the fifteen fours who could possibly uh-huh yeah he was so refreshed for the forest minutes it is he needs a holiday against the night fucking Scotty Steve Kerr to lots of never even heard of automative and who the fuck is going to be the court and Georgia who's going to be the first point like Jesus Christ pseudo bandini fantastic and he also you know took a few shots at a few guys who haven't responded to his call outs was shot at year again Dave from me and we're going to be back to talk about the one million MMA events that took place this weekend but we're going to a very quickly because folk me this is literally open like a tweak it within three minutes of the you know he wants to see someone get severely injured if those happen on someone will get severely injured I if wait for the K. K. open championships that's a six point four goal belt here's a few names just give you an idea this Jeremy Kennedy Bantamweight I look a million and go have you you will down to four that's a job isn't it like this is unsafe if this is real Jeremy's break go on a date or you know oh we're such glory full promotion with all these stupid to get your one two three four five six events yet so at job last few minutes here's Pr Yan it is excellent expert to hear from him he's English is getting better once again it just keeps getting better and better more guys at the moment but does he believe he is on the verge of something being booked for him or is he stalking Ross so to speak okay on once again he is back the mind you have all been waiting for it is Pewter Yan one of the greatest bantamweight competitors in the world at the moment he is joined by the lovely soya's the January thing so yeah everytime I think it's on the plane on the way home does usually Charles you over yet I think it was it was bad when I got home and I was like Mon- seriously it's just it's obsolete horse terrible idea especially when you have a good voice like rowing corridas on Alba's have avoided outstanding you don't need to be doing this show it's Jeremy Kennedy Jeremy that Andy is not involved in this that's very strange thoughts even giving them a like a few hundred quid just say which in this press release will maybe maybe this point because he's been doing this triple c ship for God knows how long just focus on fucking how Jesus we got an oil back into rage would intend minutes it's been a fantastic but he we haven't we haven't seen or heard what we've heard a lot from p order but we haven't heard of any macho being made what's going on I know he's in the roof as we say in Dublin Boredom Roy we get our force today it's fine favorite Euro Bash legend Peter Yan he was offered a fight with favor but then faber retired as he put his what happened there did he thinks that was going to happen a lot of people feel as though Pyotr is the last person that yeah of course I hope something we'll get very soon because you know on this route you know this is enough sort of bottles we've had over the years and on having a look at this choice and he wants to see that once again to translate his lovely musings and but first of all how are you how are you so how is Pyotr Everson Group thank you for the more interesting to prepare when I have a name and yeah I hope something gives down like as soon as possible I saw that he mentioned faber and he is looking for a better fight for himself but if he claims he's a contender he wanNA fight for the title so I might obviously put him you know he feels as though the divisions being how low puts being both floyd I'm bantamweight choppy wanting to fight all the women as well and like well uber should be trying to fight at the moment still Scott's heaviest activity lasagna-flavored Kirk have I don't think he wouldn't have come out with a measly said absolutely not just you but this is like it's a million hangovers call Miller for for people who he was also said that like the arrivals of the suppose royals of favors already they're Jose Aloe on Frankie Edgar has everyone pauses because everyone's faces these boys but they obviously I want big voice as well so it's even him in tow position as one of the top contenders like he wants to take on this from Russia was a killing machine say don't need to start talking on the United States share get off the pot how how to say like vises easier fights yeah about if you WANNA fight for the title you have to fight them number Gary and then sterling of course announces that he's injured and everybody's saying well Peter Edgar now is is this what he was hoping for as well Persson favours should fight because after fight with measure probably will retire again but to defer I understand but if you see will offer as five thou- will not turn it down you know I'm really interested in this fight to and it's disciple look if if this is a real promotion like how you GonNa he's already beaten Jason and the fight before the one he fought her Barron yeah like Jesus Reality TV personality Dot 'twas autumn fair I saw him try and shape so the camera league in slow Mo Bilbo's always interiors must be honest about it systems condensers and is number one contender now it felt as though a lot of the talk was about Edgar Sterling which was a big fight in lakeshore is going to be a very interesting and exciting much so this this has never been offered it's not a case of Edgar not wanting the this is just something that hasn't read you know I know how active he likes to say and you know without avoid being there in front is that a frustrating situation for him to be in the red yeah you've seen offered news is fine butter when Edgar announced that he's coming down yeah I already said I'm ready if you want but I don't see she is willing to fight me to you know if I fell came out he'll he'll stay into it seems like it's a very frustrating situation as he frustrated at the moment because he's a I would love to fight they're like I didn't call him out or anything like way to promote that's pathetic that's going back to the early days of the sports when it was obviously no way classes you have c. one or you can answer me and all I lose respect visor legs you know you can you can deny fighting me but you can at least answer yes then Pony still like I mean I wonder that was maybe just a is this a ploy yet and maybe never happened may maybe this hoping hoping obviously iron bronze centers come out and said he's taking on the Washington proper that I can't say I'm frustrated but you know it's hard to believe all only two people ahead of you in the rankings that code for you at the moment and that's corey who you have called a few times and Maryland as you just mentioned you who hasn't I should have started court Yoichi statistical manual near as retype him he's not Taylor in Luanda soon it or and talked to muscle naming Kiko I agree with you like bonded you calling them out does he feel as though they're the only likely macho they're the ones he wants the guys in front of him right she just wish during the they don't WanNa fight me I believe there's other options through you know like me and might weekend make a good decision on that too you know there's good fights to be making his vision was four and where I really care just give me as a person and I will present arms Deserve I saw he tweeted out his congratulates it's like I'm on the most shiny so yeah I prefer to fly guys who's higher rankings than me but you know they're not available I five hundred fifty two so we can find out who's the better contender if if you don't want to fight for his vital okay he can have his other fights in his these guys they don't hear me Tonkin's here Michael Ends they can't even answer funds sale for himself like a model on you know I called him out and he can't be and constantly winning and constantly fighting and what does he think of soil bender does he see him as a an inspiration as he must be very happy to see him get that total finally the way most impactful conditional municipal this email world of what's wrong with Newcastle what's wrong with the united last week out fogging the tiny Dane is all go who do you got tears yeah concerts him because I knew him even before he was in you see we met a few times here and tiger and of course he's journeys since to Israel to sign you am I see a lot of parallels between episode on Israel because of the way they came into the UFC and they just start charging the division should we begin or a social ethnic reserve. I wanted that belt and I want to prove that the number one contender in the division and inspiring me because I want what he accomplished already I want to Change Anna's AFC is is is it upsetting for Peter that he did you ever thought that this duck conditioner quick selling gates at the suggestion was building crystal willing to this includes the go-to Bush the Eggert with wrestler sailing them standings Ramiro knock you push star Star aspects which use those initiative the alleged to the Cote email startups on me which I should be on so isn't going to be on that upcoming Moscow was that his was that his hope or was that something that he he thought he wasn't going to be on anyway because I know the people there really want to see him fight see haven't tried to make it happen yet the subscription according to the daily stupid sugar coating your Marlin spoke Jessop designed sewn focusing those stereotypes apologize then yet onto compete at home I will I want to compete in Moscow but I didn't get upset because granted news it something else was planned for me possessor allow his Israeli designers that'd be the only visit Naga pollinates hosier he it's been two weeks but we are back euro bashes here again rejoice or was a way of course for UC two four three was in the air the uninsurable Gore will worshiping the Obamacare is mostly awesome is boosted become more just to get us before Tronto proceeded to say no yes that's Y- boy marquette she thought them you naturally EPA casual the fight Murano himself a lot of like forty excuses not to climb yourself out of say it's possible to get them what does it mean when he said he had Inaugu rim the wisdom of that and all this just lose Nevada Bush nationally this position solidified finding much that most with no Anini mobile but is not a lesson you will Smith's that has gone yet chairs Casaus have the dog were still converge slow you've got people saying should skin favorable duck initially I actually Julia Getting Kim Boilerplate boomer sort of alleging Muslim and bitter they don't even want to fight in their home time or do things are gonna come Kamalesh though I kinda news it I'm not going to be on this card but of course I will it was not the neo mosquee whereas throw sophisticated Nathan ideals Kosolin skimming through she deals definitional publish Oman Chateau St Lucia media world Nouveau says Rossiter doom or stalled ah still doing shuttle mission young Doctor Leslie today a song that's initial yup a little moustache only but he can do it up boys by Bulla financial disclosure gamble this formal Mitch and also we talk of you see with here get up Shirley's or you start at the starts actinium. She has to outweigh reasonably to be getting to bed with them yet they don't want any person in fact that boyer when you put his liquor bullying you know scattered civilian law symbols monitors battles that they have to check something else planned what what what does he mean when he says that the greatest coach got suedes rookie by ship on the issue at the chimp gone story the the the process over the drive no itself policy wasn't corey or Marilyn he thinks there's other options out there him and his team Like you say at you believe there are other options out there is it people like although that appealed yeah I believe stylistically much very well with him you know I I'm really doing well against wrestlers and you know she she can't believe it sown which it's always great to speak to you once again powder has been given me some fantastic answer today but I just wanted to know he mentioned earlier that if it two so does he like that fight we're henry like he keeps speaking about being the champion and I know that's his goal does he look at that much open says yeah I actually think bantamweight this is leading to the to the division being held up the way it is or at least the way it seems to be The way Peo- speaking nobody nobody wants to fight him you know I'm not gonNA get tired after Wandera around like someone else I'll be ready for five and ten rounds if needed you know just just wound final question on thank you. Hamlet Legend moving down into the Bantamweight Division would that be an ideal situation for two to fight him the triple seat will benz any for me he he spoke about the belt a lot does he feel as though the situation that Henry pseudo is in being champion at both floyd hanging in the air because Henry he didn't he don't know himself what he's GonNa do it you didn't say he's got to defend his five thousand dollars or bent the without he he didn't the voice stuck with again this is Aldo was disowned its own which goes I am I'm sorry I was late today and I know you have a you've just got to go training right now so I really appreciate you holding on for me and I really hope that gets a fight soon because yes of course like for me as an athlete as a sportsman is interesting to see to compete against such a great athlete like attack plus thanking universal stay by this of course it's holding up the division and everything Kinda good fight and I believe use will prevail you know US air like 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players in the world you so many of you doubted our so many Moscow and she broke her foot and like I think it was the second quarter decision yourself it's holding up the division and Frankie Edgar in Joe's Aldo plan to come down to division these also like changing landscape India her foot looks ridiculous moments nasty yeah but it just shows you how much of a toll free bottle she is she's an absolute serial killer she's unbelievable no yesterday was Muslim Pir too much though she's putting this associated British netted avoid with wood any for the National Shush skied it's Cuba should you find out Brit's new domino she as cooked dot says by the time you should that in a game that say as much to find any saas something also marlon getting like four five days since I called humanity used to saving thank you huddle Sheboygan so the mall typically edge with US I mean it's funny you said this I didn't even think about it you're going to put it on twitter or was that just focusing on gang boss outweighed no she has may when she spoke to pulse at a believer was I wanNA policies and she said and she's speaking the area on one but she said she said it was just one as our wages flee on I think we we needed to see her after the greatest European again people realize this it's like so obvious on on on the way he said I love that my translator still I'm glad he didn't Tranquillo this time and I'm very grateful thank you the great stuff boredom you know even if it was more games that she played she did it well because everyone was talking about it on what the best people in the world and the best part is do they create talking points in modern law targeted I go and soy at the lovely soya he wear has to wear translate those long to see what he's here I think we need are they not division we need the we need the shit talk we need to put all these not division again I don't think firmly she's done it so go to resort probably for everyone in the he's actually saying translators favorite thing is pure speaker Russian Soyuz listen to him he just breaking Alex Waterson you've got got overcrowded still in their hung in there bottled away didn't go her way Michelle is an obsolete point near of women's mixed martial arts probably doesn't get enough credit allowed Aubrey age only really healthy and she looked solid waterson watterson strove straight small mom but she's in Leeds driveway does the school teaching gone goofy soccer the Jesuit do zone festival amount will be more boy but almost though as Mitch Dot Se along with the data some sky showed that you're doing we wanna see him back in their thanks thanks Peter all the bill is yellow I wanna fish absolutely okay we'll do conditioner is digital with almost everybody delong needs should never didn't thought seth I'm Goto would you now wearing near yet back can't wait for fucking Johanna and Willie's I know that's Crocker this I was impressed comes back after having a kid for months ago and lose a pretty one sided the rebound has to be said Lewis Piano there was a split decision to my provider and Eric Lavera gets the ground uphill finish Andre you'll on a man who was previously beaten Andre Am Mister Netanyahu would who seems to have a voice on the verge of being booked you haven't seen it check it out nego price wouldn't op kick-finish vic time for James Victory thinks yeah hold on percents God he's asking Mackenzie Darren Melvin Manav told the told the press offer his ad nocco finish of a Yanic Bahati that he might retire on that will go off and then she was like an if it's going to be saved for me to do it is which he made it piece of his tour problem yes she looked fine on the sales and I think she looked bigger than she ever looked for just one more now from Europe it's my Atari with a decision win over Andrei Andrew Sanchez didn't look in trouble at all really ease to victory is Thomas Gifford let's talk about this for a second belter fairplay to Bisbee for calling during the second round he's already like why isn't someone stopping this ever I mean folks I shouldn't be happened and Figueredo brilliant again against him Elliott's Radio Sloan me yeah I figure it was an animal xenophon yes probably put air right next one fuck and how this on which Shit here deliver is Roy Bell Tower Milan and apparently there's back in the wind Kalyan when this boy your boy decision Gerald my shirt ruin span Louis guilty in jail over Devon cleric mcdade so that's forty three forty three years of age but I mean Jesus he's after take two British as I was impressive money beat you allow it was weird when you push on President Saddam Mariah those whose personnel such trusdale breeder speed this report to jail fiber favor favorite he needs to wake up you know he's felt Marvin did so he's been a great since I spoil them their loss of course he's been calling style vendor's name every single the race which you probably should keep keep the the carapace drew loud called Grigsby in the anti was an even record am Cain Mussa I talk it was going to be as many very uneventful Bahati when he hit him he said I hit him on the hand trying to block on Easter knocked him off his losses balance we're gonNA just jumped on top just absolutely brought him all stefan food comparison Lima's corridors was he so he's open zip and renegade now that's very interesting and moving onto one championship century obviously probably saw headlines to mijas Johnson wins flyway Toil Angela sue black head on and killed her but one challenge of said they will have a look at that again and it was a terrible fight McCain did when he was a lot of work against the cage from Boca an they weren't lining an awful lot can take anything the first of the seconds it's similar in away in the background there there UFC are doing what bare knuckle fc aren't doing it just let it simmer and run the frying Pan and possibly sanctioned but I don't think they will you know it's Angelilli she is the poster girl won't jump yeah absolutely the merceron crazy crazy yeah a lot of talk about this you've probably seen online really like you know I don't really want us to play Thomas Gifford for staying in their last twenty seconds acro public native on former euro bash guest yeary prohaska flattened Fabio Maldonado who really doesn't look looking should be fighting anymore to be was pretty much twenty nine twenty Cain pretty conclusively bought the Georgia's didn't seem to Tang Song cames fuming for the yeah am condoms here was edged out by Adam Buller who was making his debut actually expected surreally to be able to finish 'cause really is an absolute monsters we saw against Carl Moore told me basically said people thought this would be able to beat me and standoff not only love Marlon Barron Tanglewood I I understand you don't make straight away with Jesus Christ conference for a while I kick the kick boxing Toyland I wonder on pre and apparently one million dollars for that as well risen nineteen the expected really able to do them you know to be honest with you am also there of no Georgia Petrosian Italian Kickboxing League wins the Liam as well and for what she's done for the sport you know fantastic absolutely right we're GONNA have to pay street as the ones very important win over Krung Razi incredible void both unless maybe was to off Port Michelle waterson on You know we saw brilliant staredown as well before fighting the way and so am I I'm please on them because and but that's just the way the cookie crumbles obviously cage warriors had an event in Wales a big moment for Mason Jones and boy radio am a welterweight champion on the cage warriors binder before so in for ballot or he beat actually quite competitive as she reads it very good for his own Murphy you're losing the economy believe I think there was more information than than that I think it was three and a half hours of intimates fucking crazy house one last forever flowing flag for us in the Lloyd Weight Grand Prix it's Tahfeek and who went through Damian Brown pretty dot is manned look caused the toy concentration or whatever for folk me by the end of it always ready to pull me can harrowed but don't blame the bills are for today Orion was doing acquaintance I've been Jimbo Sapiro around on a tough medicis around Mason Jones various him is just another brin example of walk age whereas do you know what I mean they've they've brought Trudeau ranks to to look very elite lightweights on Rafferty honest M. 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Dude wasn't there just wasn't as soon as Jerry is a monster like just just never looked like it was endowed casino without overcoat Yeah Holy Shit it was an obsolete quarter in the first rains Jay's running on just exploded it kind of is not was in canes plan for the fight obviously he's a big and because he is such a he's vocal me and him also we should note that we have Europe had it like Monty is the last to be back home of course he's obviously very serious dude you know sorry he's look this as we've had him on the show before he was in them he went the training mayweather's jam you trained with the team off about yeah look I mean he's gone everywhere on unto his it makes a Lotta sense it does because Brandon obviously if you wash the fight that you know he he did start off very tentatively through a lot of leg kicks in the first rains and it's GonNa be a brilliant forty three four yeah I think he's quite your mom but you just talk in terms of his grappling take downs and he was like a flying ship on the poor finish the the in the opening round he will fight Johnny in the Second Round on the twenty ninth of December with the final set the tape lays on the thirty first of December Shays Scott Down I love Your Voice Brennan's Brandon's appearance I watched that I thought he was Britain never again never in doubt an interesting listen to the interview you're about to hear it in a few minutes oh fantastic he did he looked brilliant mind and really offer not win opera singer well round win it's got it's got to be him enjoy already has a book for Birmingham Foy booth distance control was fantastic I think for you know obviously having the coder whatever second reigns the interview he tells us that he caught and really box because he knew it was couldn't do an awful lot Comoro fairplay to him for hanging on and not I ran dot was deep down any snapped his arm I don't know how we didn't top yeah no he he is the AFL Mason Jones. Yeah a lot of another great showcase a wellstone as we predicted Mason Jones definitely gonNA take new Brazil of Europe yes it's me a little bit hung over on him I said before when I when I met at bloom things have been vague the third but heard was nearly finished when today to me as well before south opposite Thursday Thursday and we were they were the focus exploded boom booker's that's it and there were obviously there's this one more to talk about on Thursday night and no you can talk to you this and Optima fifteen seconds board at higher amount on historian did look very much improved he hit him smashed up his face actually with these couldn't launching equity was helps Labor data yet no same as he did when he was on this show called anyone on Bella toward on once a day just ask you one thing there's a lot of information's not shows I was gonNA open up he went into it with a would equip oversaw and he basically Clinton spire at all so that's why we saw some which area so watch the void I saw you Mike Tyson this seems like a pretty pretty much a dream come true situation for you and your your first PF L. Yeah you know started letting the hands go more on the third randy mixed cakes body cakes and started throwing combinations of against the fan so you could just have to go in there and just start start for him really wanted to stimulate PF L. in this part of the jury attraction he's brought he's brought PF allies wanted people sure no complaints pf I'll talk to me so well treatment like a superstars and find at the Mandalay Bay was really was a goose for moment it was amazing so back once again it is a man that stole love the headlines from the PF L. event last week what is showcased performance a win over my very dominant showcase off to get there and I'm glad he's gotten handsome financial reward is because he deserves every bit of these liver nope it's great to see and and look again he didn't have to do this they need be said for Brennan Lock Nane Brandon Hell were you and how was your adventure in Las Vegas it's just GonNa be maybe a fucking mortgage I forget Roy we'll look believe is brandon we back in a few minutes SABA lucrative. USC Boston all the bashed ah you'd spoke to me I know it wasn't on the show we didn't have one of course you would have been on it if we did I won't but you're saying you know you're in a suite they had they rolled out the red carpet plate safe cut the distance and disuse Malek's Yeah we noticed that actually because you're a boxing skills are brilliant on your known for your your point he made a real effort again the phone we really we might as well talking about brandon all over the world putting is in their promotion on Edison really wild onto Brian and much much deserved we've known brand for quite some time and he's worked his blow Diaz Finish today there was a hint of Lake nearly disappointment of have you watched biker was incredibly dominant showing from you do you still think that you know the finishes with Iras important as just being and every box ticks me folder disorganization a saw in the post that you put up with Tyson and you said you know I wanted to get the octane no way well don't toys and you made the right decision drop them whiskey mountain shit absolutely bought look I think it was mission complete Ah Brazilian European you know what I mean Yeah Museum huge amount of talent there and just read getting back in their off that up torn Friday morning whatever it was I don't know but based upon me when he was giving away the take video this little lame Parnemann still I think bits and so listen fairplay to brandon wasn't empowering your points in ability on obviously it was a lot more kicks in this void on Tomasz credit I mean he's one ten of twelve points common interests he's no slouch m I mean did he did he cause you any trouble like I mean did you feel it was awkward avoid him in any way considering that you as you said you were you wanted to get in there and go for the finish was he a trigger would you build up we we knew what was going to be then it was the debut of course you didn't want to let these guys down right yeah of course and what did you think of my when he was in there and people down and what a great guy is where among given all the fans take it's Kudos to brandon lost con- you know he he didn't even need to do what I call today and he sounded did was that because of the court is that what you went through with the cakes you know as predominant as he did yeah literally the first exchange deliver no excuses what was it was a bit of a compromise could open dot was was an old so uninspired for the whole company Keppel opening a kind of new to play safe I didn't WanNa get another few baller jobs so you know it was a bit of a compromise come so open straight up which I knew it was yeah I don't do any kind of Boston exchanges was gonNA open area was very weak so the end of it there but I'm sure you are it was probably reluctant again because of the oil right like a fella give you've really kicked it a body and then you start opening up to his head with some pointers whiskey after a training camp Ma Ma geezers he'll you'll hear it now in the interview he was nearly getting toys and fury to come down and have a beer with a single beer or is like you kind of a single beer with brandon yeah so so my so my plants you know it's it's pretty August this becomes champion to hold the belt and my plans opponent than than you thought he would be yeah four it was gonna be baffle is gonNA finish him in a second album applaud kids credit much further enough to be a safe performance believe it wasn't sometimes it was all just don't to fight so a drop or do not get paid absolutely the now please yet is a fun time as Las Vegas always as you aw stronger than a for I thought I was going to say Nice into first impeachment the second but it wasn't meant to be my ideas obviously Yoi the end of the foot I figure I better over five rounds to be honest I feel like I'm just getting woman deferred now something I wanna work on training for the next one and I spoke to him and I was going Jesus his hands are so good what is your standard AC- well not afraid he isn't he exchange with this deal but it shows you like when he looks really good I taught anywhere in the first second garage as dominant as you looked out there who do percents I'll finishes that's what people want to see it we had a good fight and and the crowd went back to the old gender the third of fuck it let's swing out yeah he looked looked like you're really hurt him there against the cage towards the I'm like he was close to going out there did you feel that way as well fell in well in a way like you say just like the last fight was running a bit too short with the time at least at the Scottish I'm watching Doogie where well the oldest said all the the rarely live Abby Neil Davison Pete Maurienne nothing about nice and if you need Brennan always positives takeaway so have plenty to work up tell me about the meeting with toys and because that's an incredible picture you took afterwards how did that come about the European scene tweeting about tweeting about this I mean was that was that plane your head like Shit I didn't I didn't even get ahead of this yeah spock wrestle did it about eight weeks and then I I opened again I borrow arrested yeah that's incredible that you Clinton inspired all was playing on your mind ahead of this given him which excitement there was I mean I felt like everybody was talking about this card in Europe everybody we saw every believe you were hoping to fight again by the end of the year is that a is that a possibility stale or do you think you're going to have to give this time to heal because as you said you know with the anyway there you would like to face at this end of the year event or is it just a matter of signing on the dotted line until you get yourself in the playoffs and I want to go out there and finish everyone fight and you know you are hopeful that you would be able to foyt on this one and then which is that needs a stitch comfort obvious reasons so it was getting glued the area wasn't strong now he's got eleven weeks until you'd take away from your performance to some extent yeah no I'll be out in New Year's Eve one hundred percent I'm going to give this a week to needs in the under was a obviously Ali then struck him allegedly and Anthony pedestal to get involved security at the separate them sounds like a crazy scene where were you around for that delightful weeks and then I won't spa had got big closer to just open straightaway I know sell added decision to make and Loin and a lot of people seem to say that Ali Stroke Abe am GonNa ask them for a conversation reports go that a thought he was going to have a conversation anyway even though you weren't able to showcase your you're pointing ability as we said earlier yeah no no he was he was nothing really big meal stadium the got the layoffs aspired and it just made me realize long ball inspiring its course and I mean is afterwards we'll a message of Vermont as you to call him so maybe I'll note in the next hour also both had Tyson fury annoy toys on the same congratulate me on this win yeah when I was getting my stitches my friend rang given see everybody so tuned into that promotion over here like I feel like I said this he as soon as you're sewing that you would bring a whole new audience to that organization uncertainty feels that way the jury would have been alumni on what they say what what did you have to say first of all ask you wake afterwards did they communicate that much to you were they happy with the amount of European interests you brought this event fellow extreme I'm extremely amazing brandon you get home safely to Manchester and we'll talk to you again soon hope for the brilliant brilliant win on congratulations to you and yours my friend I said Yeah Okay and he told me about Mike Tyson one night Jesus Christ ready for that yeah and I mean have they mentioned anything of potential opponents or anything like that to you or is it is still up in the air at the moment who you could possibly face at that they mentioned code decode every week we have candid in depth conversations with people like Elon Musk Nancy Pelosi and Kathy Griffin who talk about how they got to where they are today and how they're working joins Brennan that isn't fair they should have been all talking to you not this going now Ali and that sounds like the crazy altercation is changing our world new episodes of Rico decode are released every Monday and Wednesday and we often have bonus episodes on Friday subscribe for free to be the first to hear them is lower face I've it was good very cool and then really toys amway toys in them he enjoyed her performance on apple podcasts or in your favorite podcast APP Thank you so much to me I gotta ask you did you did you know where you aware of anything that happened between Eliana Bueno of seen a Lotta stouffer saw Malki talking about it Inverurie facetime I'll try to tell the Ohno's faced with Tyson and even want to be in right now what he fall Mike taught bumpy so I take care of my best boy all of us by by this Cara Swisher I wanNa tell you about my podcast the as usual I'll give it full five weeks of plenty of rest and salt the bureau then start going from there probably pick misfire swabs or sixty two the dog yes yes and tell them they must stop taking away from your head but I was gonNA cooperate then you're the wrong minded going to meet for one drink I think rather than you know what I mean I don't think he would have been able to get out of there quick enough you know happy feel like he was the perfect transaction for me to go there I feel I'm just no I'm still CPAP everything in the way of went away or anything like that I was I was about the full story I suppose anybody just been thinking getting the details about one well brandon that's all a half human we're all the Lloyd great to see you get off to a great start with PF L. on Damn Great Asian next year no I was going to give me we'll gene today modestus Greg Mandalay Bay one year so there's no way must be fixing point Monday Santana in Vegas and he was saying I'll come up with that project but you said at a flight six in the morning and he found himself they took it away for their last event before this one and the fines actually requests a box they put a game which was pretty good I thought as well so yeah you need some different than star Lucknow for getting on the hottest property in PF l. at the moment I look before it is for you actually he was talking to me I'm based on the tracks new generation county road doyen funds tweet joined a week and still waiting is a huge deal for them and I actually Koi some of the PF L. Graphics to speed the speed on the pointers and title Kayla Harrison there for the big name though I think he can look it's not like people in Europa going wait see Kayla Harrison Twenty five your dealer certified the right man to go around he's a big big following decided upon them and yes answerable stole from all we was it was good sensible did professional like professional contemplate not one complaint from China will await will be my account with PF L. would you do to fight and stuff and he was waiting for that fall in Brazil just a bit devastated Danni governor finished obviously he was everyone was happy part for me it just it's gotten to the point I would you know like what is the Monitor to the front why you know stay in the background did he not just say yeah I'll do that that's everybody wants and you're saying he doesn't deserve what he's been saying for a few months now he's been slate and I until you're not getting the next shot all this sort of stole funding obviously is you roundtable that's good put your forties or there but what was the big thing for me was the confusing thing for me was Habiba said L. Freud is the com- spices dial up on them yeah listen nothing you know for them especially if they WANNA get sort of a base in Europe and Brennan's easy isn't it like I mean or you think when I think about Habib am haven't spend a little bit of time around him not much affiliate really is after that legacy and I feel that if they claimed show the wrath com yeah yeah no it is it's it's you I think you have to do something different these days and what they've done is you know I think appointed right they're happy today or not today last week Sanyo Tony Ferguson we'll be next I don't know who's really calling the shots everyone's on Fifi contractors something very good but I'm just saying it brings a completely different element to it when Brandon's after this right like if you WanNa watch I saw so many on a few occasions yeah Tony eggs and then he comes out and he says no no we don't fight Ferguson Yeah I don't think hang on a second you you're not meant to be representing Habib Oh you know what I mean not your father's detention at your get the credit you know it doesn't sit well with me even lead that media they lie which is to say the move to legacy is devoid seventy six percents there's no other real option this and Tony's when he's got fucking screwed over the last couple of years you know unfortunately injuries but Tony's been treated very it's it doesn't even watch said the roundtable there and he was sort of putting words in as far as the put words in his in his father's mates forty by by Dana White and the UFC even opening publicly even he was holding the interim taller remember Tony said I'm next next whatever and then obviously unfortunately got injured but on the fight and stuff and I was like okay well he say one thing you're saying another thing there as well very similar to what you're saying about Habib listen I'm the most powerful manages I mean it's crazy not in and around table could you imagine this football primarily football like an FA Cup Final Vanguard Book and he showed her they'll try to make the fight but Dana white basically came out publicly and said who the focus Tony Ferguson Sandton he's a UFC in chomping at the time Dana a bit more respect for the guy onto you know making the fight to think available free as well as is a no-brainer we could give Adebayo the promotions have things like that but they made it easy for you to watch as well which a fan re kill a heretic back and forth on Line Darin wins huge prospect is Karma's protege he's a very short man he's been slagging Darren Stewart saying Dan he's waiting to Fenical ben solely never heard so improving moment for it greg hardy it looks like Tyron Woodley Darren Stewart has been calling him a garden gnome in retaliation so looking forward I would actually speaking to Darren tomorrow that's what I call my nephew. The biggest headline the event was about two monitors helping the headline did you hear like on what to say anymore ah on Gyro as we said at the time did not shower himself and glory almond with the way he behaved over there especially to being a European legend how dare you people had vulcanology score for Vulcan and London I think he's going to have to go out here and be dominant against Chris that's going to be interesting to see Chris again you know back in there again Roch hold on young Black Ovitz where everyone's like oh if one of these goes wins Doug unafraid John Jones and Oda to get the shot I know he's Eh Joe Lauzon Jonathan Periods macy barber who glowing molly molly bomb blast funny glass she's takes Jillian Robertson's I hope you worked for me there's lots of Americans on the rest of the cards but we do have a an interview with certain Sean Brady claimed he s Noel has gone are these guys getting it on and if we thought that was before there's even more he now after those exchanges as we saw in the hotel lobby afterwards and stuff like that Jeremy Stevens and not amount of Detroit sure so as documentary almost of a watch BBC Molly Molly Mikan Yeah Shit yeah on I think Corey McKenna was also honest class so voight from Boston Molly McConnell and they'll be molly seems to be taken to the bus Jones like House on Forum on she is going around Nov Watch on the BBC three player apparently song so we'll help the on Geo block ourselves into that one but we definitely will and Darren win takes on Darren Stewart David grade even the main event we saw Jeremy in Dublin after the incident where your ear and the forest boy am real letdown after bill that in Mexico City so re looking for put an yeah I think it's a big big Chris Changes seen a change your weight you know one eighty five was an awful cold front we've seen already did a documentary and the possible documentary I am your May Greg Jarrett he's also in this he's approved a lot he's a principal Phocas yes improved rosty from the first one she's dead behind the eyes there's been sparking Abedin for six years and to me and the guys won't beaten his amateur career three zero and then Tannin oh and martial arts supposed to make his debut last March I'm allowed to get into getting the stitches in Egypt office got his stitches and then he was telling me about I'd bear mountain today thank you so much Mr Luck name for getting on the hottest property in PF L. at the moment I look before it is for you actually he was talking to me way cord on it was you know it is toll for Chris to one eighty five and we need to see someone from crazier and his father lost like three of his last four fights and looking forward to Rodriguez and Jeremy Okun actually looks believable she is little savage I'm really interested to see what molly does she's improved so much money just every fight she seems to get evatt like court McGee ultimate fighter winner but Brady's one of these guys I think he suits us to say to him in the interview style of martial artists in we'll talk to sean at nor great interview with Mary this week so we will leave without moving back to talk some Shai thank you very much media and that was pulled I dunno I think his opponent got injured whatever but listen they're putting them in on his debut for McGee Jesus Gritty Grind Ed Welterweight Division at the moment really saw all round game good wrestler great detail on do we need anything else that's it claims for that let's go so you WanNa watch it like I saw so many funds tweet joined a week and still waiting is a huge deal for them actually quite like some of the PF L. Graphics percents loss strong she is and that's the creditor before the owners should be a should be phone I'm sure the Bostonians will be in full voice. Roy Let's have a quick look at this Boston over two slobs runs this week Chris Williams says the trump card it's it's a one two hundred forty pounds has he been in there as you not think so I think this is Dave sorry thought Jesus thought all right this is terrible I'm based on the tracks news generating canny Royal Kayla Harrison there for the biggest named Oinky conlon look it's not like people in Europe are going wait see Kayla Harrison it was It was good sensible on you know making the fights available free as well as a is a no brainer we could give et other promotions things like they made it he's gone to a game we see with Lia over there and she's in her corner yeah I think so molly looks focused reprimand you see she looks like she's out poile she looks thing for me was Habiba said on a few occasions yeah Tony Eilly comes out and he says no no we don't fight Ferguson Yeah and I'm like hang on a second got grain L. Border Dominic Reyes a certainty on the great ruin on really the win over volcan wasn't an one dollars citified powerful managers I mean it's crazy isn't it I mean I think when I think about what Habib have spent a little bit of time around I'm not much Eckhard two year old nephew garden he is a psychopath. NFL years now and I thought Oh sorry money Bermudez Charles Rosa Chaz rose has always on investment he's in and what they've done is I think they took it away for the last event before this one on the fines actually requested the box they put a buck game which was pretty cool claimed this month but you've been saying for a long time Lotta Hypo this kid threes especially you know the midwest sort of well not mid West my job if he's terrible failure it's it's a one it's like rock hold on Yom Black Ovitz where everyone's going to like Oh if one of these wins they're going to John Jones and sort of a base in Europe and brands Daffy the more bright minds go right he's a big big following over decided upon them Yes I like I like what they did got all this sort of Stole Fund and obviously is you pointed out there he did it be doing everyone not today last week and you know Tony Ferguson we'll be next Berg's vanguard book and he sure yeah we just it's madness it's just gotten to the point and I would like what is a monitor have to be the AH you're not meant to be representing Habib like did he not just say yeah I'll do that that's what he wants and you're saying he doesn't deserve what he's been saying for a few months he's been slate and I and twitter you're not getting the next I feel like he really is after that legacy feel if the move to legacy is forty percents there's no other real option this town when he's got fucking screwed over the last couple of years on Occa- what to say anymore listen to you you know there was a roundtable because you mentioned isn't football primarily football like an unethical point in his you know his fighters mates on to fight and stuff and I was like okay well he same one thing you're saying another thing there as well very similar to what you're saying about Habib listen but he's the most yeah no you know unfortunately injuries but tony treated very poorly by by Dana White and the UFC even opening publicly evening when he was holding the entire remember Tony said I'm next the media they lie which is a good experts say the rain table twenty at school to put your forties or there but what was the big thing for me was the confused as well so yeah you need some difference in jail Roy dicillo Ref com does it spices up on them nothing you know for them especially if they wanna get is whatever and then obviously a fortune he got injured but they're trying to make the fight but you know Dana White based came out publicly and said who focus Tony Ferguson descent and he's a UFC interim lightweight sailed for that in Mexico City so re looking forward to these guys getting on if we thought it was heat before there's even four more he now after those exchanges as we saw in the hotel lobby afterwards the first one is dead behind the US and he's waiting Benegal ben solely never heard so could be improving moment for easy for you to watch as well ahead to believe that the biggest headline that came out and it was about to minors hop in the heads up did you hear it uh-huh I don't know who who's really calling the shots there and it's it doesn't say well even I watched said the roundtable there and he was putting words in his put words and looking forward to Rodriguez Jeremy Stevens in the in the call main event we saw Jeremy and Dolan after the incident with your air and the force four am real letdown after someone taking Julian Robertson Zion Hope you short so she didn't documentary must've watch BBC Molly Molly Mikan Yeah Shit Yeah I'm on just over that Jeremy Stevens and not to be able to at and Yarrow Rigas as we said at the time did not shower himself and glory with the way he behaved over there especially to be interesting see Chris again in their Gannett of two hundred and forty pains has not been in there don't own poop do you not think so I think that's his being a European legend how dare you and your mate Greg Jarrett he's also on this and get approved a lot he's looking housing yes improved rosty Wortmann. He's been slagging Darren Stewart saying he looks like Tyron Woodley at Darren's you're has been calling him a garden gnome in retaliation so looking forward to that one actually speaking at the time Dana have a bit more respect for Roy. Let's have a quick look at this Boston over two slots runs this week Chris Women at the top of the I am Darren wind takes on Darren Stewart David great back and forth on Line Darin wins a huge prospect is Karmi's protege he's a very arosa chance rose is always on investment go fights he's from Boston Molly McConnell and molly seems to be taken to the bust Onians Ed Hardy OJ Jolo Zanjan Periods macy barber who molly molly bomb blast funny put her out loud the Boston will be in full voice for for molly there's lots of Americans on the rest of the cars but we do have a an interview with certain Sean Brady claimed like a House on Forum on she is going out she's gone to a game we see lear over there and she's locally in our corner yet think so molly looks folk and Rip Mont did a documentary and the documentum away could you know it is toll for Chris to get to one eighty five and we need to see some crazy and his fault he's lost like three of his last four fights it will be a lot of people vulcanized Amir flight score for Volkan Loenen and I think he's going to have to go out here and be dominant against Chris. I think Corey mechanic was also honest class song and I have a watch on the BBC three player and apparently son of a zone we'll have on Geo block ourselves into that one but we definitely will the speed the speed on the points and still they claim to show the wrath com as well it's just so different yeah no it is it's you know I think you have to do something different these days what he stay in the background lots you know what I mean let your fighters got detention et fighters get the credit you know it doesn't sit well with me even Ali to Darren tomorrow that's what I call him a nephew that car two year old nephew garden he is a psychopath. NFL years now and I'm sorry money Bermudez Charles no food she looks like she's after she looks focused let's look savage man believable she's little savage I'm really interested to see what molly does because she's Tom Brady on to get the shot I know he's waiting Jack Rhino Border Dominic Ray has a certain on a great ruin and on really the win over Volcan wasn't an one she's supposed to make his debut thing last March on that was pulled I dunno I think his opponent got injured whatever but listen they're putting them in on his debut hands yes she's GonNa fight fight fight contract or something like that look very good but I'm just saying it brings a completely different element to it when Brandon's air for this right yes has gone and claimed his mind but you've been saying for a long time lot of hype built this kid there is especially in the Midwest not mid West my job if he's terrible failure Paul means sparking a bed and for six years and to me and the guys won't beaten amateur career three and then Tannin Oh and makes

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Becoming a Fit and Healthier Dentist with Dr. Matt Standridge

T-Bone Speaks Dentistry

55:22 min | 1 year ago

Becoming a Fit and Healthier Dentist with Dr. Matt Standridge

"Welcome to t bone space with Dr Turunen Agarwal, where our goal is to change the way you practice industry by helping you achieve clinical, financial and personal balance now. Here's your host t-bone. And welcome back for a nother week. Thank you so much for tuning in weekly and for our new listeners. Thank you so much. Our numbers are slowly, but surely creeping up our reviews a slowly, but surely creeping up, but we have more work to do so I wanna make sure that you guys help us with some of that stuff, and as always I'm joined by lovely. No longer fanny now, are you? I have upgraded once again. You are now my bodyguard. Yes, I'm very strong for those of you have not seen me. That's the most people haven't seen me. They just my voice. Do you consider being a bodyguard and upgrade from being my fanny? I mean. I don't think being Anini requires much skill. I would think. You, just you just. You just hurt some people with that. Okay, because some of the people listening I don't think we have any nannies listening listen, you'll be shocked. I have a strong supporting system in the many world out. There I've. been through the Nannies for his children, we. You know we haven't. Hasn't ones live with him. He's had ones not live with him. He's had them go live with his mother in law. All different kinds. Have worked by first nanny. Interview is the best story ever, but we're not going to get into. But I got we gotTA. We gotTA. We gotta do that one. We gotta get Mona on and having episode. That just talks about how. The Stupidity Like the typical man stupid stuff that I do. That I do not. Do! Well well I think we're. Always working on our health and fitness become a better bodyguard of course I. Yeah so this week. What I WANNA do is we're going to bring our good friend and guest. Matt standridge in. Yates. Center Kansas and he's going to be talking with me and us all about getting health and fitness. The reason I'm bringing on his. Matt has gone on a journey. Many of you know him as the Kito Don taste and he's gone on a journey. Of Losing one hundred pounds and continue to do that without essentially starving himself, and without having to literally work out an exercise wave, thinness, and no offense, but we're not in yet now never to be quite honest with you, so so let's and health is so important because. Anyway Matt. Why is health so important well welcome to the show. First off that yet. Thank you for having me on and Yeah I'm really excited to talk with you about Means, share I can share my journey, but really it's about getting other people you know taking care of and getting them healthy and everything, and what you were alluding to earlier about health, being so important health as the driver of everything that we have you know there's that old adage of that. We spend the middle of our life, sacrificing our health to get wealth, and then at the end of our life we spend all our wealth trying to regain our health. That's very true and. That is going to steal that one. I've I've already trademarked. Call I text my lawyer just now. Trademark that we've taken it from Aristotle in made it much. But, you know. Look I very open and don't make a lot of bones about in bones, but. I don't. I don't hide the fact that I'm unhealthy, overweight and like ice cream. Love peanut butter. Yeah, wow, you're good. It's only been a couple of days. Well because I left. Hurt. Jar Lingo. But. Look. Here's what I noticed. The most significant growth in my professional and personal career happened between two, thousand, twelve and two, thousand, fourteen, a coincided with me, getting healthy or Healthiest healthiest I've been in a very long time. And it wasn't that I had a six pack actually went from having a keg to a six pack of beer. But but I found that I had renewed energy always more mentally with it. I was significantly more confident in myself and I. Just I started three dentists of that time. We saw some growth in our practice. We're able to have the mental energy to bring in an associate through all of that and I found that that was the time that I really made a difference and quite frankly I find myself now at a time where I'm really feeling physically and mentally significantly lazier. Than I've ever been. and. It's concerning to me I. It's concerning that I have a I'm a little bit more irritable than normal that I have a harder time getting out of bed that I'm a little less. Efficient and functional at the office minus the efficiency I think that's just user error. But I feel bad I feel. I feel bloated a lot, I. I don't want to get off the couch and I. Just WanNa live like that anymore. You know and it's time to do something and So. I reached out to you because I'm not willing to go running every day. I'm not willing to do some of those things right so I just wanted a you know. I saw somebody that did it i. you know what I don't like. I look at people that I consider skinny, and like I want on this journey and I have a six pack. I'm like dude I'm not trying to get a sick bag right? I start anywhere to get six back I'm just trying to get. A little bit more energetic Okay, right, so why don't we? Why don't you share where you've done where you've gone through? How the Kito Dante started? Yeah, and kind of talk now at Sunday. You've been here for the weekend. Kind of what we've done to step my path and be very frank about what you think. My struggles are going to be okay and Meredith. Please chime in for all the problems I have. We got we got. Permission, so we don't. We don't have to hold back now. No, I don't want you to hold. So you bet so to give a cliff's notes about it. I've kind of struggled with my weight. My whole life I grew up morbidly obese and all that stuff and. Just say morbidly obese. What what does that mean so the technical definition to you right, so you know. I was over two hundred pounds sixth grade and I was over three hundred and thirty pounds in freshman. Year of high school, and that wasn't muscle. That was not muscle. Yeah my my lineman coach love me because I took up. Mass by had no real strength threat, and so and I. Don't know how heavy I got because the wrestling scale own maxed out at three thirty at the high school, so I maxed. Yeah I maxed out the scale so I. Really don't know, but is about I, had luck going low carb? was kind of on a resurgence at that time, and I talk about in high school in Highschool, and so I ended up losing well over one hundred thirty pounds I got my. High School I got my lowest down to one ninety five or so. And I stayed around two hundred all through. All through College Undergrad Undergrad until dental school. And then you know we don't have the healthiest lifestyles in dental squad at least I'd in it though between stress stress lack of working out alcohol. Abuse. But by the way those all same things that happen to US exactly combined with the fact that we make some money. Okay. I would argue that that school budgets. Noodles I would argue that a big factor. It is so you you maintain your weight. To about two hundred, so you weren't skinny. Okay but you kept your weight about two hundred through food through most of Undergrad and then you got to dental school, and the stresses and everything came about, and this is a perfect storm of things that coincided and I just. Stacked wait right back on. Did you have any mental struggles during this? Some depression or anything? Yeah, I mean I was depressed. I was depressed a lot through dental school as just constantly stressed and I yeah. I mean I still I. Love My class. I made some great friends and all that stuff, but the experience itself. Just I don't see it as a good experience for me and I. Know Some people love that time, so yeah, just different strokes, but die carried that out of dental school. Then I continue to gain weight. As I progress through being a dentist and. Start off in public health and buying my first office buying second office and all that stuff, and so just adding the stress of life and the practice ownership and all that stuff. That's what. I regained everything that I lost and then some through dental school. After the? After yeah, well so. What were you have to? You know more recently. So I maxed out and. Have Gone Up Yeah. People have gone. We've we can hang. Scales you can get a four hundred scale. For the scales that go up higher you gotTA. You can't get the ones that are made in China because they all these people are very smart. Get it, they eat a lot of rice I mean. Well genetics papers. We should talk about that a little bit, but yeah, so you gotTA. You've got out to how much about three sixty sixty. So what was some of the symptoms? that. You're feeling because typically what what I've found is. There's. Look. Nobody suddenly. Nobody says Oh, I'm about to have a heart attack. I should start getting usually it's. A disruption that happens right, actually get a heart attack and then I. Get woken up right I get woke. Do you use your millennium terms right, so so tell me what. What what was what were you feeling that time? You know how what was bother. What were you disabilities from this? Yeah? I call that the moment because people have to hit the bottom of that personal pit bulls before they decide that they're going to make a change and for me. My pit moment was. In Twenty fifteen I, just took over the second practice. So I was now managing to offices in June. We had my first child Hazel my only child as of right now. daughter Hazel was born in about three weeks later after that was my my dad's seventy fifth birthday party we through a big surprise party forum, and of course everybody's taking pictures so a couple of weeks later I start seeing the pictures post to facebook that I'm tagged in and I'm holding my newborn daughter at the heaviest weight. I've ever been and my heart just sank. Know you know it reminds me of photo I saw myself at two thousand twelve. When we post our own photos, meredith, you're the. Just talking about looking at pictures from last summer I was like look I thought. I was fat then I was so skinny, but it's not even that. That's part of it. Yeah, by the way you're not. So but Listen I. Do so social media. We post our own pictures. We always take it from the right angle. But then when you get tagged and other people's photos like they purposely untaxed. The worst ones of you, I remember my buddy. Who's passed away I? Miss him dearly. He in two thousand twelve. We had gone to a NC state football game and we're tailgating and he posted this picture of me eating a hot dog. And I look like I. I was like a stuffed dog. Myself I literally saw that picture and I was like that's. That's not me right because our brain CEO. You see yourself differently great. Do you remember that photo of me? Well looked like I was about to expire. Twelve but I remember you guys showing me and then showing me where you got from there. You know when you were. That was probably two thousand fourteen when it was like your best, and you felt better. You practice better and I don't think people like what kind of changes did you see in your practice when you started to lose weight like I? Don't think people look at Dentistry as a physical labor job right, but some of the surgeries and some of those days you're on your feet for three and four hours at the time, and it's physically exhausting so to add one hundred pounds on that and do the surgery is a lot. Have you noticed any differences absolutely So that's the thing where health it really impacts people more than they know. Because when they're dealing with it on a day to day basis, the oftentimes don't realize how crappy they will. Because that's their normal right. They don't have a point of reference. That's different man. Bursts you start getting. A eating healthier. Getting more energy, losing some weight, and just constantly feeling good, all of a sudden a light comes on. They're like wow. I didn't never realized how crappy I felt until now that I feel. So until they get that frame of reference, they don't really know, but it impacts everything. Health impacts your energy and your confidence your mental clarity, all of that stuff is going to impact everything that you do every aspect of your life, right it's going to. It's not only going to impact you and how you present to yourself and your self confidence and everything, but it's going to impact how you are as a husband or a mother or spouse or whatever it's. It's going to impact how you talk to your team. How your leadership your leadership levels of your team? What kind of what kind of example are you setting for your kids? What kind of example are we setting for our patients, you know. Why should our patients listen to us about our hell now eating candy and getting cavity exactly where healthcare providers exactly right and so. Health is like the cornerstone I see as the cornerstone that impacts every aspect over life. It's the trickle down. Yeah, it's the top like speak to this from personal. Experience is the top level of trickle-down. Look I think and you touched on it and I think. To me. The driving factor isn't what I physically look like. Me and my wife to deep into. Certain. She's not going to trade up at this point. Listen I would. It would know he's not gonNA start of. Trade down for her clearly okay. would be a trade down per, but for me. What drove me was my mental health. Like depression in. Often, I don't know if people how they view me. I often get people that view me as the pinnacle of Dentistry in the sense that I've got be. We've got practice does very well. You see we live a great life. My Wife's doing well. She's a nice looking person. We have generally speaking pretty good kids. The teenagers right now is. A little bit here there I'm surrounded by beautiful people I'm surrounded by committed people in my practice and in my life. They're the only ones that'll stick around. To be quite honest. You made it this far. You're committed. I wasn't that committed when that we saw that snake the day. Do you remember at wasn't very good? Bodyguard decided to take care of. Ran and screamed and left, but I struggled with depression I struggled with not feeling good about myself. And it started with what I looked at like at the mirror to myself, and it permeated everything else. And that that in the energy level okay, that's what drove me. I I. Don't want to say I could care less. How I look at certainly important to me, but it's not that important to write you know my wife. Accept me for WHO I am. I'm enough I'm confident enough of myself with that, but when it started when I wake up. What I wake up regurgitating ice cream. Okay this scene. That's what happened because you go get ice cream late at night or does you know what irrelevant when it happened where it happens it probably because I had two cups that day, but but. Berries in business pretty much, but you know so. Let's okay, so we've talked about the. Yeah walk me through. How how did you? You made the mental commitment. Walk and again everybody listening. That's listening. They have the same. We have the same challenges. are scheduled. We're not in charge of our schedule. Would you agree that meredith? Yeah I, think everybody knows how it happens right, but it's how to make it work. And because our schedules a dictator for us from the moment, we walk into our office I'm. Not In control. And then it's always on me because we want a busy everyone is runs a scheduled practice, and then it's. Oh I'm booked out a few weeks I got. Get this patient and all at seven, and see them or stay work through lunch. I'll stay late. And all of these things add up over time. And then what happened to me was I was working earlier, working launch or sometimes working late I get home when I was just mentally exhausted. And it just was a downward spiral. Don't get me wrong, but right. So what walk me through what you did? Okay so for me. Prepare preparation is key because if we know that these things going to happen, then it's on us to prepare for them. Failing to? Plan is planning to fail right thing right, and so that's what to me is the most important. If you know you're well experienced, you know what you're roadblocks. Are you need to have to come up with an actionable plan to? To deal with those okay, and so for me like how I came across how I did it was I had to I knew lunch was not a guarantee so going somewhere or Ordering something healthy that I don't know if it's going to be a boy or not I, had to prepare my lunches beforehand. Okay, so let's back up for a SEC okay okay. So, it's interesting, okay? The first thing you talk about his food and not your exercise regimen right okay, why is that because the vast majority of our results are gonNA come from Diet. Outlook about Diet I get that, but but what soon as my original thought to all of this was Oh, I need to exercise. Yeah, and and what I keep hearing. What I experienced in two thousand twelve. Wasn't that I needed to exercise? Yes, movement, yeah, and I want to redefine next is a little bit. Movement is important. Yes, but diet control is significantly right. And your learned person about all of this stuff. How how give me the? Important Difference Between Diet and exercise in terms of the results that you can get right, so diet is going to drive eighty percent of your results. Okay die is going to drive eighty percent of your result. Exercise and movement will constitute maybe ten percent of your results in the other ten percents going come for a nation from sleep from stress management all that stuff, but But, really diet is the largest driver for results and people if people can lose twenty fifty hundred pounds or more without they've done studies of veteran, patients have lost hundreds of pounds, simply by changing their diet in there, not moving at all, but so diet is the biggest thing that is going to move the needle as far results, so that's that's where I start with. So tell me so what what give me more specifics on the Diet. Okay, so diet. Really, that's a bad word by the way, but diet yeah yeah yeah. Yeah Food Plan your lifestyle way of yeah lifestyle way of eating. You know all that subway, whatever lifestyle? Yeah, yeah, and so for me. It's really about focusing on nutrient dense foods. Whole Foods. Getting rid of any of the process stuffed empty calories stuff that. Doesn't fill up sugar. Come ice cream. Why do you keep saying ice cream? Because you love ice cream, you don't want. I'll give ice cream up. Just Gimme, have now. That's just as bad. You get Oreos in your ice cream. I scream with last weekend. Miley sticking up for you. Lay Off. Okay so sugars yeah, okay. Shug a sugar refined carbohydrates find coverage. What does that chips? CAKES COOKIES? Brownies sure. So so. All, right all right matt. Do I have to give this stuff up. Most people do at least for a time because it's, it's become habitual eating and we are built off of our habits. We got this way I got this way. Hey, We got this way through our habits, not by eating Zucchini. Right. And so. ZOODLES! And so we have to redefine our habit. And And like I said a lot of this a lot of this, we have to just get out of our life for a while. This whole everything in moderation that people like to tout about it doesn't work for the vast majority of people. It just doesn't you know. I've worked with coaching programs that have coached. Thousands of people and I've been able to see what works and abstinence for the vast majority of people are going to do better now. That's not to say you can never have a piece of birthday cake again, or you can't start to reintroduce some of these things eventually in a healthy manner at some point, but when you have had a a daily habitual. Process of. Getting the getting the ice cream, getting the oreos, whatever we have to break that for a good amount of what does a good amount of time. Mean you think it really depends for the person? studies show at least sixty days. They say thirty to sixty days create a habit in anything like exercise a you know just life right so I would assume that would be as aim for food and the studies actually suggest. The average was sixty six days. It could be as early as little as fourteen could be as many as one hundred and forty four, but the average that works with most coaching programs is at least sixty days. So for what what I'm hearing is. That for sixty days. I need to give up the stuff to break my desire. Right embrace the habit you're. It's always going to be a desire. You have to think of it at desire coke anymore. Right a sodas. Yeah, so nice, not not boettger sugar. Whatever that is. Okay all right, so keep going to cut out sugars fine carbohydrate. What else do we have anything else? Yes, so basically. I gravitate to low CARB and we've talked about this before. I can look at somebody's body type and how they're carrying. Wait and see like if their insulin resistant or not. Are you type two diabetic? So tight to diabetes is insulin resistance. That's all there is to it and there are. Basically. There are basically three ways to treat insulin resistance that have been shown in the science and that is. Something like gastric bypass surgical induce fasting. There is very low calorie diet for extended periods of time. Under eight hundred calories for weeks on end or low carbohydrate diets. And so out of those three. What sounds what sounds doable for you? The low carb yeah. Yeah. And, so you know I talked about. Kito, which is ultimately add its purest form very very low carbohydrate Diet I. Don't think that's needed for everybody. I think the vast majority of people can. Can benefit from low carb, but that's simply going to be from eliminating foods like sugars cookies. Cakes poces. And focusing. Wraps. I give up rap. Though problem and focusing more on nutrient dense foods all right. So we went shopping right, okay. So talked about that. What did you notice about my tendencies of what I wanted to buy? Let's take the sugars and stuff out of it, I. Mean I get it. I WanNa have a captain crunch cereal. And Ice Cream. I'll and stuff like that, but what I noticed that there are some significant differences that we could make in our grocery patterns That would make a difference right like I was telling Meredith actually the first step for me because I begged for help I. think that's an important thing that we should talk about. System I was thinking that, too. I've wanted to do this pre bid or wanted to do for a long time, but. I really take offence. When people say, you should have the willpower. To not do it, but you know I think you use the example. You can't put an alcoholic in an alcoholic environment right, so you can't put a sugar eater into a sugar glider and I think the day that it was very much easier for me. Is I last last weekend I asked. Meredith and my wife Mona to go through the House and just basically get rid of everything about that meredith, so your kids eat a Lotta sugar. Lot Yeah, so we went through in cleaned everything out and went and bought groceries. Then texted Matt and asked him. What should I buy for you guys this weekend and the funny thing is the list he sent me. We had already bought most of that besides the meats and stuff which they had eaten that week. But the VEGGIES, the low carb that kind of thing, because we had done this in the office before probably like a year and a half ago, and Megan and I and a couple of the girls in office lost a bunch of way and. We did it together and I think even then you weren't even noticing it, but you were eating better than to, and because we were and so the people around, you weren't eating cookies cakes. You were telling people not to bring the men because we didn't want them and. We didn't want to be around. People eating cookies, so I would ask. I would ask the girls not to go in your office and eat them right, and they would say oh, well he can. He needs to have the willpower and I'm like well. Just don't do it just your own office and you know it's interesting. If I go back to two thousand, twelve is I started that you about writing month two months, and then then I had like you saw this week i. didn't eat the cookies that were out there. One hundred percent regardless of how bad you say they were. Cookies I try to tell them when things are. They're not good. Don't worry taste good. Yeah. All right so so talk more about the Kito based Diet specifically. The meal prep meal eating. What what? What is a typical day? Look like for you on the eating side of things. Yeah, so I. Tell The people that have the most success with low carb. Kito whatever is simplicity because if you make it overly complicated and complex and time consuming and all that stuff. You're kind of setting yourself up for failure especially, if you're like us and as a busy, we're just busy. Everybody's busy and so if you make, it overly complicated more than you need to, then you're you're asking. You're asking for trouble. Okay, and so I keep it super. Simple I tell. My folks pick a meat. Pick a veggie or two, and that's it. You know a little oil to cook with or whatever? But that's it. It doesn't need to be any more complicated than that and you can see you can attest that the meals that we have had? This weekend were fairly simple, but they've been delicious. They've been pretty good. Yeah, I wouldn't use the word delicious. They've been. They've been good. You ate the hell out of those Brussels. SPROUTS looks I'm not saying. He is. He likes biscuits. I would have never thought. He came in today and he's like I had Brussel sprouts. On My. Well. Look I'm always honest person. Delicious to me would be pasta pizza. Right and stuff like that, but this it wasn't until. I ate plenty of it I didn't feel like I. was forcing myself to eat it right? And it was pretty simple to make you know, and so I went grocery shopping. Something I don't normally do I cooked. Do but what I did notice was with a little bit of simplicity. And I think this is part of the challenge for busy people is. In all busy, no matter how busy we don't think we are. We're mentally busy. Because if we own them, practice with thinking about nonstop. Have kids with thinking about them? If we have spouses with thinking about them, is is. Prepared to succeed, and that preparation is keeping meal simple. Yeah, don't buy anything extra, and then maybe spend one hour chopping in prepping Yep put everything in tubs whatever you gotTa do, and then make it to where cooking is a simplest possible. Yes, and then you put it like we came home literally we used one pan We put the vegetables in their cook. Them put the meat in their cook them, and then literally took that pan. Put It on the table and eight you know, and and that was pretty simple, yes. So so and then like so for example Let's came Wednesday nights Thursday. We ate chicken. Tuna. And Brussels sprouts I believe. Oh, no, sir, Bell, peppers, and onions, Bell, peppers, onions, and they all tasted pretty good right? It wasn't. It wasn't bland. Yeah wasn't like eating cardboard. And then I was able. Put some hot sauce on it. We had good song pepper on it. So as good, so that was good, easy meal. And then Friday night I believe we had. Champ Llano. Chicken and What do we have a Friday night? Friday night, we had shrimp. Last night. That was shrimp. Shrimp tasted great Zucchinis or Keeney Brussel sprouts Bell, peppers and onions, and then tonight we're going to eat out and we're GONNA go to hibachi place and just get a plane a meet and veggies and videos very easy. Exactly you know so so so that is. That sounds pretty good plan. Yeah, absolutely, and that and that's the thing. If you're going to go low CARB don't make it super simple. Ours don't make it super complicated in the fact that just pick me pick veggie or two and you're done. It doesn't need be any more complicated than that one thing that you had mentioned to me. This weekend was I had heard you over. Mentioning is is I've heard with Kito that you can eat all the fat and cheese and Bader's. You want because that's all Kito. Friend light, but there's some. There's some risk in that so talk to us about that right, so you know. When we first start Kito you can, you can lose a lot of weight still eating extra fat and stuff like that, because your body's not used to burning fat been feeding glucose. We've been feeding sugar for years on end. So that's what it's used to burning. When we reduce our sugar intake, and all of a sudden, we burn through our sugar stores in the body is has never really had to burn its own fat for fuel. And, so it's very inefficient. It's like a gas guzzler truck in. It's just it starts burning fat, but very inefficiently, so we can get away with this higher fat content because it's just been. It's just being excreted right. It's being because the body's not used to it. The body as an adaptive mechanism. That's how we survived and became. You Know Apex Predator of the world is. Our bodies do learn and become efficient without fuel and all of a sudden. You can't get away with the extra butters the. Butter right exactly our our bodies. And so eventually calories do start to matter again. Okay, and so that's why we can't. I've seen so many people and I did this myself when I started Kito I lost thirty pounds really quickly. Is doing this kind of higher fat version, butter cheeses that type of stuff, and then I plateaued out really quick and okay, so I want to take that. That's good. See Look I think again I. I'm not an expert not telling people how to do it, but I'm just saying for my mindset. The every time a diet has been shoved into me. Okay, and has been zero to one hundred day. One Right? Okay, and it's to me. It's a recipe for failure. So and so right now. What I'm liking is that I can put some butter on there. Some cheeses on there, but I've got a mindset that right now. Until I start seeing that plateau, I can continue to do that to a certain degree. And then I got to start cutting that out as well and hopefully have less in in the thing to me is is seeing some results like even in this one week I've seen some results I feel better I less way less bloated, and you've only hurt me. BURP like once or twice dire time I've seen the difference on the scale. Right? You know so once you see some of the results. That's so important to success seeing results. And then not also feeling starved, right. Right so you know not feeling deprived. Of Word that I I would say is so seeing some results, not feeling deprived. It begets the next step. Yes, right and so the next step after you say okay, we can do butters and cheeses in in you know along with Akito, but then the next step is then you're going to have to start cutting some of those out. Yeah, once you star. Once you start losing weight and your body starts to adapt. You're going to have to get to the point that if you're if your goal is still more weight loss and stuff like that, you may instead of going out and getting the rabbi. You might have to get the Sirloin. you might have to get the fish or chicken breast instead of chataway weight loss body. Sirloin there's only one beef. And that is the Falente mcdon-. Toe Bree all. Outside of the staking, you ask my role son and he will tell you the only beef. That is a wacky. Bets it. We'll get you guys out to cattle country sometime out in Kansas, and you know, broaden your horizons a little. I went to school in. Kansas City so I'm very familiar with Arafat be. And all of that stuff so okay, so once you start with the food and you start moving, and then you kinda hit a plateau i. think that's when you can incorporate more exercise Rabi more than our twenty minute mile walk. But. Again thank you. Bring it up. Again I think this is why I've struggled to start. Again I'm not trying to take responsibility, but yes, it's a twenty minute mile, but that's that's the best. I've good. We're moving well. Let's give ourselves a little bit is. Used I I don't give two shits now. Because if the gym was open, we would we would be there. Doing something nonetheless look a walk works. Yeah, it's a three mile walk, so let's talk about exercise versus movement right? Okay, so let let's talk about that. Yeah, so when we when we look at humans and Howard kind of evolved to be like our ancestors, for example, we got a lot of the low level movement. They did a lot of walking they they just had. Had Movement, built into their day, hunting gathering, tracking all that stuff working, and so a walking is one of the best. That's like the ideal. If you think of a things built on a pyramid of movement, low level movement like walking should be like the foundation way, but do you know how thin we would be if we had to hunt for our own food? Maybe adages. Right now you have to hunt in the cabinet, sir. Isaac. Exist so in the office the other day. I had gotten him a salad for lunch. I wasn't back yet. And I walk in, and he has a Starbucks Cup lid full of peanut butter, and we said. Where did you get that? And he said I went to the grocery store and we said. No you did then he said I went and got it myself. I sit in the cabinet and he's like yet. Somebody went to the grocery store. Grocery stores going to the cabinet and searching for food is the same as going to a modern day gathering. Rents. Are Rich people. First World Junior short, and then we took it away didn't want us to throw it away. Because that was wasteful, we did take it away and gave him a salad instead. So okay, so walking is the first step. Walking in low level stuff like gentle bike, riding during the summer going out with your family and Peleton. No a five bedroom who I'm not. I'm not trying to be. Disrespectful here anything okay, because I'm not that different from you, but when you three hundred fifty three hundred fifty pounds now right now, but when you three hundred fifty pounds, going out and running isn't really. Listrik exactly because number one look. I'm a competitive person. Played Competitive Tennis. I'm competitive. All things in my life right so when I got out and I can't run or I. CAN'T I can't. I just can't do it, and it's not because I'm not willing I, just I give in. I don't WanNa, fail and to me. Failing is not doing eight minute mile or Three miles at one without stopping. You know those are the things to me and it's not because you know it just. It's so hard so having a plan. That is just getting a start by star plan. Right I'm tired of people telling me that Oh. You've got to do it all the way in. You got look dude. I'm just WANNA walk. I WANNA eat better. I want to get some results. I WANNA go to step two right. Want to get some results. I WanNa go to step three. Get some results, and maybe I'll use medications at some point to help me I don't know. But I just. I just WanNa feel better, you know, and and I want to look better feel better, I wanNA have some of the drives that I had before mentally physically sexually. All of those things you know they're. They're important things that we just not enough people talk about or not enough people share about. And it affects you practice, it affects your business. That affects your personal life. Because what happens at home then it's this vicious circle. Yeah, it's an absolute vicious circle. We all feel. Like I know it affects meredith because she says something about it every once in a while right pretty much every day. She makes his comment I. was this so I was that I've got to do this? So I know that's affecting somebody right? Yeah, we may say jokingly or whatever it is, but it affects us up here. Sort permeates and everything we do. Baby, maybe you don't feel comfortable, getting fun people and talking right, you know. Maybe you don't feel fun. Comfortable standing in front of a patient and presenting the case you know. Maybe you don't feel comfortable leading your team, right, you know. Maybe maybe you don't hire an associate. Who's better looking than you or more fit than you? In all of these things cross your mind because of it or maybe you feel like that kept me from getting my job. You know any number of things, so yeah, you know we. We've gotta do for the some of the right. As well, and and what you talked about. You know that competitive, and almost like that perfection I. think Dental professionals in general kind of perfectionist, right? Allie lease hope so we are and and so I wouldn't want to go to. Anybody wasn't and so. We let that hang up. In perfect becomes the enemy of progress, right progress, not perfection like right, and so like what you said starting somewhere getting somewhere. Yeah, I don't expect somebody three hundred and fifty pounds to start committing p ninety x on day one and doing you know squat jump jumping jacks and sunny you said that because we found article one time the girls, and I N- office, and we send it t-bone at said what happens to your body and thirty days of doing thirty verbis on thirty days thirty every day for thirty days, and he said you'll have to call an ambulance the I. Like I can't do thirty verbis right now. Yeah, no doubt. Expect anybody to. I think look. I think what happens is and I'm not I'm not saying anything personally to you. Or anybody else, but I think when people don't have a supportive or understanding personality to this It affects you like when people say all you gotTA. Do is thirty he's. Right okay, I, just can't and you though. And so, that makes me never want to start right. Okay? Yeah, and and that is the part of the problem is is we have to become self conscious about the words? We say Okay, because yes, Meredith, you can do thirty BURP. But. You're not in my, you're not. You're not going. And then we thought about it, and we said we'll work our way up and he's like no, you guys. You know and he doesn't want to do it because. He doesn't want to hold us back. And we're like we'll work our way up. We'll work our way up. We'll do a few every day you know. It started with working from five. Right, then he would have said yes said yes, right. You know, and I think. Part of it and this will lead into the last topic is part of it is. Having. Realistic. Plan of action. Okay. That's certainly part of it and the other part of it. I think that is the most important part by the way in my opinion. Is a support. Committed to this now whether I want to be because one I've talked about on the podcast to involved a third party that I don't pay right. We don't mean in terms of like merits employees in at the end of the day if I wanna Lick Oreo cookies that the only. Cookies out of his mouth. I'm not really sure how I mean. It's so that, but now I feel like I've got a partner in this. And hopefully it motivates you a little bit more because at the end of the day. We're working together. And what kind of person are you? If you're not doing the same things you write me to lead by example, right exactly how important is support? And how do you typically suggest people do all of that and and you know I liked one thing. Matt said the other day yesterday I guess. He said he seen. People succeed with absolutely no support. No motivation I mean nobody around him to support him, and he seen people with all the support in the world fail. Because they use them against well, and then they use them against themselves kind of where they talk their helper, or whoever it is into bringing them food, right? But you can't talk me into bringing you cookies, but you might could talk Joaquina into bringing you. Would do whatever you so right so I think that was really good to. How important was support for you? So support was very important me because I'm I am a I'm an emotional. I'm a stress eater, stress drinker, and all that stuff, and so we'll talk about alcohol. Yeah, yeah, and so. And so for me like if I if my family was stressing me out more than. Compound! Compound, things and I'm the type person that I don't really I'm better now, but starting out I couldn't have the chocolates or the peanut butter's or the cakes, or in the cookies or stuff in the house, or at least I'd better not no good news. We don't have peanut butter in the house anymore. All. Relevant why it's. Like I'm GonNa start a diet tomorrow, so that means I have to eat all the food in the house. And so and so for me. Luckily, my my wife was very very supportive of me and completely understood. What I needed to do now, not everybody has that, and that that does make it difficult. It doesn't make it impossible. I've seen be the excuse. It can't be the excuse exactly. Ultimately the only person that is going to drive whether we're successful is not. Is US 'cause nobody's force-feeding? This stuff through our mouth known as making us chew it. You know we're. We're hard to watch someone else. Eat Chick fillet exactly, and you have to eat a salad, so so having that support system in place is very very beneficial, but I think part of that support system is giving people, permission, and giving them I. Don't WanNa say an absoluteness, but but giving them a hey. Listen I need you to hold me accountable. I know marital easily do it because her personality is that way, but some of my team members aren't that way. It's not. They want bad for me right just because I'm GONNA. Give the push back and I'm like. Oh, can I just have one in? My wife's a little bit like that? Because, she you know, she's a pleaser and all of that stuff, so but I want I. I went to the office I said listen, this is what's happening No I'm doing this. I'm committed to it and I. Need I need I. Mean it's A. It's a plea for help to a certain degree correct? Yeah, it's I need your help, and that helped means that regardless that I pay you that I'm your boss or whatever is. We cannot allow me to do this in also it means that we're GONNA. have a shared sacrifice right, and that shared sacrifice means that until I'm to a point where I can control myself, that also means that we can't put me in that environment. Right? Just don't do it in front of you. Absolutely, but I mean there's been times where people trying to get Brownie points and would put Eminem's on your desk I would just take him away before he even saw. Even knew they were there. Well in in. Let me ask you this I mean if you had if you were. A a team member that had an addiction issue, they went and got helped they went to like a Rehab Clinic and they come back. Would you have a happy hour every day in your staff lounge? No, yeah, because you're setting them up to fail right and so you're not going to do that because you care about them. Yeah, and so. It is an addiction. It Dichter sure. We are so stressed in our. I'll actually talk to the camera on this one, because we're so stressed in our lives and we social media where we're stretched too thin, whatever it is that we feel like we have to be perfect. We should feel like we have to be happy all the time all of that stuff and so here's the thing. We sedate ourselves. We have a chronic sedation. In in society today we date ourselves with the food we eat. We sedate ourselves with drugs and alcohol. We Cidade ourselves with net flicks are Amazon. Prime or impulse purchases, all of these forms of sedation. And food absolutely is a form of sedation, and we need to learn to recognize that we need to learn to recognize that in our own behaviors, because until we acknowledge that and recognize it. Nothing's going to change. Now. Looking for that satisfaction exactly so you gotta you gotTa look inwards and really do a self evaluation of why do I do this? And is it serving my needs the way that I think it is? Well here's what I think we should do. Okay, so we have our facebook group. That'll business in clinical excellent. I'M GONNA. Ask you a favor okay. I want us to have a commitment between. Mean you okay that we will do a weekly check in on each other? Okay, we can post some basic stat school, and that we can help hold each other accountable because I think accountability is key and I don't want to disappoint you and I don't want to disappoint other people, and for those listening join facebook group coming in on the Post. Let's talk encourage me altogether, even if you're not trying to lose weight. Quote Skinny Earth. Meredith! But. You know. Encourage people. And let's let's do and for me I want to be very clear. It is not about skinny for me right because number one that has never. Happened in my life right okay. Nor do I quite. I don't think I wanNA I. Just want to feel exactly. Yeah, okay, that's it I wanNA feel better. I WanNa feel more confident and I want to be all of those things I want to be more I. Want to have better for performance at the office. I'm going to have better performance at home. I wanNA have those things. And so to me, that's it if I if I don't lose weight but I. Get those things if I don't develop muscles, but I get. The happiness that comes from some of the things I'm cool with it and I don't have a goal of one hundred pounds. Whatever it is, my goal right now is feel better. My goal right now is I need to make progress. Okay Yeah and my goal. Gay Or what I'm trying to do is by densify. Serono, the World October I WANNA have lost twenty to thirty pounds. Okay, and so really doable. Absolutely yeah, and I'm not trying to say one month starvation. It's not crash, dieting or anything. Very doable because I'm realistic, I'm not going. Go. Starved might be all it's going to do is come right back. If I do that, so so I want to do that, and then you know hopefully you. I'm confident that we can make it happen, but I need. You know and you listening. You're part of that help and I'm part of your help, and we just need each other so facebook group to help it. We can ask about meals. We can ask about everything because I think like we mentioned earlier your ear health physical and emotional is part of running a good business and doing great dentistry, and having a great life. Absolute so I want to do that, so Matt, thank you, thank you, Get in touch with you. You can find me on facebook you can. You can shoot me. You can shoot me an email at keynote. Honest Key Aka E. T., O. DONT EST at G MAIL DOT COM. But. Does provide coaching for people and stuff not so much right now. anymore because I'm just really focused on the people want help. You're happy to help him, but yeah. Getting started like I don't I don't do the ongoing show chain like the weekly check ins and Blah Blah Blah, but you know. Shoot me a message and just let me know how I can help you and I. can't least help get you started. That was Dennis. Helpful for me because you know, it's one thing to again. I don't want to Belabor the point. It's one thing to get help from somebody who doesn't have a job. Their job is this. Is Work out all day. Perception I. You know so. It's great and I think we've made good movements I mean. We have changed. T. Bones works scheduled to allow for time in the morning to work out. When I worked in the office I went to the gym every single day after work I had a schedule I did every single day I never missed then when I changed jobs, I didn't have that schedule. Kind of just went away, so we've made that schedule where we go every. We will be going every morning. Jam or or walk or something every single morning? Yeah, so and you have to be clear about your intentions, and like I said we are. We are the some of our habits. Yeah, some of our actions, so we have to be intentional about how we set that up absolutely. I think we're set up for success. Thank you, everybody and we'll see you next week. Don't forget to leave us. Review. Share stuff and join up facebook group. Take care. Thanks so much for listening to t-bone speaks with Dr Tarun Agarwal. 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RHOA: Talkin' Spit

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RHOA: Talkin' Spit

"The craft have bed off rabbit. S Hello and welcome to watch her. Crap ends a podcast about all that Crap Bravo that we just love to watch. I'm Ben Mandil Ker of the real housewares kitchen island. Go check out the new episode. It's on Youtube joining me. It's wonderful talented safe and sound man. It's Ronnie Carom from arose bricks. Bachelor's podcast what's up Ronnie being. How is How is Staying at home treating you right now. Oh just Levin having the time of my life actually do. I am having fun. It is weird being stuck in like not being able to go to homegoods instead but Yeah I'm having fun and being very productive. I'm organizing my cabinets and talking to myself making Nancy videos great so I mean there is I will say like a a small silver lining that I'm finding is that by removing all declutter of Whatever obligations there are outside the house you know like haircuts and useless shopping. Like homegoods etcetera. I do find that I have more time to do things so By the way I I I have been delinquent on putting out the new so my plan is tomorrow to get the newsletter. At least get that dot ball rolling you know and You know it's been fun cooking shit every all the time There's been there's definitely been an upside to hunkering down. I think yeah. I've been doing a lot of cooking too and I've been doing a lot of youtube video cooking video watching that's for sure. Yeah I think the sad thing is. I'm definitely going through my food much faster than I anticipated. So that's like a little stressful. But it'd be nine thousand pounds nine thousand fucking counts like I cannot stop. It doesn't even matter what it is. It's like the Lamest Shit ever 'cause you can't go to the grocery store you know so it's like Maybe I'll have some potatoes with What else do I have a man as and chocolate chips sands great all right. That's the great snack. Turns out if you like to bench doesn't matter what your binging on its food and you can eat it and yeah you can still gain nine hundred thousand. It's amazing I know I am just I could feel my clothes tightening around me just all the carbs just nothing but carbs and the first week I was like you know I don't taking on a lot of carbs but I'm also not eating out as much and I actually think that like even eating carbs at home. A lot is better than eating out meals you know etc. I was trying to rationalize that by cutting out all the food that I normally get ordered in or go out to eat that I'm actually eating healthier overall but then today I woke up and my shirt was like back and I'm like Oh but there's nothing I can to do about it corona virus but that being said just a public service announcement people stay home. Okay stay the fuck home. I don't WanNa hear any excuses. Like literally the excuses. You have to go to the grocery store or the pharmacy Don't want to hear anything else or you're an essential employees because this weekend I went onto I went onto the instagram Unrolled this new sticker. Did you see this this sticker? That says stay home and basically when you use that sticker on your I-I'VE POSTS. It's a tag and so like it shows up on your feed like you can click on everyone who use the sticker right so I clicked on it. I was like what what what are. What is this and the first thing I see? Is I see three muscle gays cramp together in a jeep and they are headed to like Venice beach to do a beach workout. Because they're going to be they. They're going to be socially distant because they're working on a beach but they're cramped together in this jeep together shirtless great bodies of course but sure list so i. I'm just I'm I'm not a doctor but I imagine it's like more opportunities for sweat and things two-wicket off of you and they put the thing that says stay home. You're literally not even home. You're actually doing the exact opposite. You're in a jeep huddled together shirtless using stay home. I mean please. They just need to have a stay shirtless specs thing for the game. Stay shirtless I mean. I'm okay with that stay shortlists. They hot but like to stay smart to you. Know the and then I Runyon Canyon you know went on. I was like I saw enough. I saw enough stupid stories where people were putting stay like stay home while they were out in public with other people. I was like you guys. Not even realized that sticker means did not understand English language. Stay home and so I went on. I went to click on the tag or the location for Runyon Canyon. Just see all the GRANDPA's as just like post after post after post of people proudly declaring that they're staying there. I'm I'm being. Socially Dent said that I'm six feet away. She just didn't I'm like do you realize that you while you're saying that your distant all the people around you are also declaring that they're socially distant and if you all turned around you'd realize you're all next to each other declaring that you're socially distant. I mean it was just drives me nuts. Good at this point. I'm just worried about keeping my own. Damn family inside. It's like okay. That golf is not socially distant blank and ask with your friends not mopping so suddenly this Dan. Okay let's all just relax. Maybe people are confusing emotional distance with social distance. Okay but honestly honestly like don't be cavalier about this if your community is like kind of Chile right now and you're lucky enough to not have a big outbreak. That's great but it's GonNa probably come to you and you need to say social distance that way the communities that are really suffering that have like explosions of cases can pull resources from you guys. Help over there. Okay so everyone just like set the fuck down watch some TV will be here to recap for you. That's what we do. Stay inside. Pick up a Hobby Organiz your organizer Cabinets Ronnie like really. It's not that important that you that you go to Marshall's today just stay safe. Y'All well now. Let's go to check out the worst virus on Bravo neely we buy. We should also mention Andy. Cohen came down Corona Virus Thousand Big Bravo News. That happened between our between now and our lascaux so there. It's impacting our community. It's officially gotten to us. Yeah and in College. We have nothing else to say about the. I have nothing really to say. I mean feel better though better for sure. I hope I hope he's Okay. I I I guess we'll find out soon. Love making funny. Don't want you to die Feel better yeah. Let's go over to real housewives of Atlanta because if I hear about corona virus for five more seconds I'm GonNa poke my eyes out and okay. Let's go to the the cliffhanger. The Hat us in suspense for an entire week. We'll any leaks thorough peanuts and Kenya. More calling popcorn peanut like why is she calling that piece of popcorn? Peanut does not see it. Is She just avoiding snacks? General says she doesn't know what's next on the table. What's really happening? They basically low key gas lighting. She just wanted to gaslight Ni news like bitch. I have popcorn that and I've been waiting this whole season to see Mimi spit on Kenya. Because that's been in the say the news but you know the blogs or whatever and This was it she. Hasn't she pretended to spit a popcorn seat? At her very small. Honestly it was a very triggering thing to happen in this age of corona right. Now when we're trying to really keep our spit to ourselves they'll as we really need to see as Nina fake spitting Yakuza Nannies Corona would the NASTIEST. It'd be the meanest version of Kerma Sarcoma. God that Corona everybody else's some people got it mild but God that meany version frilly hurt my feelings. The Need version wouldn't even admit that gave it to you. Be Like I did not give it to you. I didn't give it to you. You call me a toxic virus and then you eat that ice cream and not just as bad for you. It's like no you're literally a virus sneak around You'd be like coughing and then be like. Oh my God that cough sounded like seventy just called me a buffalo. That's so weird. You're like coughing and the viruses. Like but what about me? What about me what I'm going through? I'm like but I'm going to call and you gave me like Dr. This virus is calling me fat. Is there anything we can do? It's so funny that you see. The general population was infected about four hours ago. Like yeah I know I'm I've got the virus. It runs about four and a half hours late. God okay so ruined peaches at ruins party. Yeah please assault me with the plane. A peanut plays gonNA tell again. So yeah she does. And then there's a lot of Cross Hawk and Kenya sailing. All you do is Talk Shit. Go Away Go away. And he's just going fuck you bitch fuck you bitch and Kenny just starts going by by by by the they just keep repeating themselves over and over and then. Nina's doing that thing where where she's pretending people have to hold her back whilst you spreads while she spits visible seeds over it. Yeah and then Means like spend your fucking face and she's like who tries to spin on someone and then we every time something you said we get another. Slo Mo shot of Nina spitting an invisible popcorn seed keeps coming over and over and over again and include audio too. So you you her going. I'll spit all your ball of arguing for g also says at one point. I guess she has like a pen or something and she goes. Stick this up your dry policy and then custody cat watching. I missed a lot of the the terrible stuff that means supposedly said was while they're screaming over each other because everyone was like that was bad. What Nina said because really sounded to me like meaning was just doing what she always does when she's up against someone she can't be. She just screams fuck you over and over again. Yeah she starts screaming over you. She has nothing really witty to say. But she can be louder and more of noxious. So yeah. That's that's Nina's thing. Is She just loud and then later on says that she read everyone to fill but it's like You were just loud. So it's an Cynthia's like the Anini I know is definitely throwing popcorn and pretend you she's going to spit like what meaning do you know. Yes that is the meany year now. It's the same meaning. We all know Kei cars by the way did you. Listen for Cynthia's Popeye laugh this week. I hope you did. I didn't hear okay. I look for no. I saw what she laughed with her shaking her head but nothing coming out which makes me wonder. Do I just have a blind spot though by laughs? No no she only did it once this episode that I heard maybe she did during the The games part but then there's so much going on that. I don't think I was paying attention to tension to that. But keep an ear out. I swear to God she will. I felt like I felt like they heard you on the show because Kenya started yelling. At meany Okay Papa. That's true that's true. The need tries to explain her behavior. She's like in. Greece is a good thing to be spit on. Okay we're in Greece. We're in Greece. I've never heard that but I did not hear that. Either so candies. Yeah you guys have got to be willing to converse with each other news like look your friend. Don't look at me and Kim. You're the at something people you get solved by me bad. You know if you've got something by me. I think because if you feel Improv even jump which is yeah. That's I remember. She did that like a few years ago and I was like. What does she even mean? By that of your feeling froggy. I mean. Why don't even get that? And then people online Ben. That's the thing that people say I was like. I like it if you feel in Prague in job as Anini just screams fuck you allot and Kenya says the weather party without you know that. She's the party goes on without you. Yeah Bitch you dried up bitch bitch which basically having a fight over how well can the show succeed without each one of them right and I mean can you can you. It's funny because Kenya's like while I guess well we've proved that the Party. The show can be perfectly good without you. Right which has been proven. In fact. One of the best seasons was without any was the season with the whole when favorite had that crazy for part reunion a non Nina Season Right. And then any when. She's the party went on without you bitch. I'm like yeah for one season and they had to bring back Kenya Nina. So good job there. Yeah I just think they can do fine without both of them and I. It's like hypocrites fighting. They just keeps screaming. You are you are. And they're both right actually. I feel like they're both wrong. And they're both. They're both so wrong but they're also both right because the other person is trash so true. I think is more Disposable I think that Nina can be Super Fun even even when she annoys me so much she still has some of the best confessionals however the rest of the cast has really come up especially Porsche to the point. Where like as funny as Nina is? She's not like it's not like she's an island of of comedy on a show of otherwise very boring people like everyone's really funny. They don't need her and the Kenya is just. I just think that Kenya's much better about do. She's better about staying in her lane and knowing what her lane is which is to be awful and to create terrible drama in a way that really moves the show forward Yeah I their best so gross. I just need them both to be gone. And it's like they're both such hypocrites they just yell at each other for the other one does and they don't even wait for episodes to be hypocrites. They can do it in the same episode Mike. Now Kenya's like well I will not have this talk or whatever. Well I mean. He's trying to leave right but then later Nina's like Oh look at Kenya. Always leaving there. She goes against. He leaves every fight. But then we get a montage Anini leaving every fight and then Kenya leaves again and then Nieves against constantly vers so Marlow tasting downstairs. All I think that we need to talk. Okay right now and then is trying to calm. Kenya down And everyone's everyone's basically getting on. Kenya wits Kenya's not the one who yelling screaming at people and I don't like standing got for Kenya. But why are they telling her CDs to be seen needs to be more forgiving because he was the one who initially try to have? Some sort of friendly moment was the night before I don't I'm going back and forth. I don't even know where I stand on this. Maybe as I discuss it. I'll come up with a better while I'll decide where how I feel about it because I do feel like on the one hand. Nee- was basically saying all Paul Bush. Aside how are you doing? I really do care and I kind of feel like when someone does that like that is nice. That is actually a really nice gesture. But then Kenya's kind of totally right 'cause she's like me and he was being totally fake and if she weren't being totally fake then why did she immediately. When when I said I WANNA talk. Why did she the very next night? The very first thing she does is basically say. This is why you got divorced. You know like that's not someone who wants to be there for you does not say that shit the very next day right so I get that but then I also understand any feeling really upset that Kenya totally her gesture so i. I'm more in Kenya side with this. But it's gray area. Yeah well meaning. Only did that because Cynthia made her again and and also doing it on her own and then she came up to her before that charity event and tried to break mice only because she wasn't going to be able to go to this event and she had to make mice in front of mark so yeah well the charity events use fucking with Kenya for sure. She was definitely being Super Nice. 'cause she knew she had the power. She knew that mark her back so she could. She knew it would drive Kenya mad so she's being over the top nice but here. I mean yeah I think ultimately I'm on Kenya side because Nina has been attempting to be this new person who seeing a life coach that she found off of craigslist and is now like. Oh I'm calmer gentler Anini and and this was I think she was trying to get back on track with that and Kenya was like no and now we're seeing the real knee again. Yeah So they're like Kenya. Where are you from mad? You guys were friends and can you again. It's like listen. The only thing I'm holding onto the ice to have an issue with is nearly calling my baby. A Buffalo. I started started laughing so hard. This is sally. Let me tell you something. That's the same problem I have. She did back called your baby a buffalo and she says she called me a big fat baby elephant and then she's an important. She didn't call you baby at Buffalo. She called you up our fellow like that's like the big semantics issue in this episode is like No. You're baby's not buffalo. You're the Buffalo. That's all but we do see a flashback. And you need did say she's going to have the buffalo although I mean it's a cruel thing to say about someone who is pregnant because you know you're pregnant like that's what happened yet based disgusting. I mean it's a it's a cruel thing to say but at the same time I do not like saying. The baby is a buffalo. She's making analogy accrual analogy to pregnancy. Which is really what the issue is saying. She's going to have a buffalo well. That is calling her baby buffalo. It yes I feel like. I mean what Buffalo's birth to chicken Buffalo. No No. I'm not if any I think what she said was terrible. I can understand the distinction between if you see a baby and you pointed and say Europe Buffalo. That's the one thing versus like someone so big. It's like wow. She's a big. It's like she like. She didn't give birth to a buffalo. I can see how that's like like a comment on like wow like when people say wow. She's super praying into whatever again. I'm not saying this isn't defensive but I can understand in Nina's mind why she probably thought that there was a distinction but either way like don't call a pregnant lady don't say she's having a Buffalo. Yeah well that's neat. That's the kind of person in the so-called pregnant women fat. I mean that's where we that's where we're at with meany okay. He comes what what crap ins would like to think. It's premium sponsors. 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I apologize because I don't ever want hurt another woman so I apologize. I'm like why are you screaming? Does apology right. Now it's like in the tone of like fuck you fuck you bitch. I'M GONNA throw another popcorn at you and it is not a peanut but what she's actually saying. I apologize that I heard you or if you see saying she apologized if you felt that way. Dini apology non apology and she goes and I would never hurt a kid and you just want to use your kid. Sympathy make you need to work on apologies? Gotten better at that so of course it goes. I. I'm GonNa talk years like Kenya. Kenya here the apology. Because I had to receive the same apology and can it goes okay. I will say I received Jesse you'll stop just now. Kenya that is passive. Aggressive of Kenya does an imitation of the apology. Accept my apology then. Porsche. It's like sunlit becomes like victims of Ninian non image because she's like. I was called fat but she apologized narrow k. Like I don't just because she apologized to you. And it was a much more meaningful apology and you have a different relationship with her as very different. Just because you're called Pat we're okay with does not mean that Kenya's under on any obligation to feel better about it And also in some ways I would think that what he said about. Kenya was much more insidious because nene called Porsche. Piggy face in the heat of an argument when they're texting When when Kenya showed up at this at this party Kenya wasn't doing anything to Nishi just showed up and he was like she's going to Buffalo. That was unprovoked. That was just cold cold buffalo fat shaming while. She was mad because Cynthia didn't tell her that. Can you is coming. So that was there. That was a big. That was the big Kenya surprise. Me was very but she was just. She was mad that she was mad. But she wasn't in an act of beef with Kanye beyond that she didn't like Kenya. You know they were in some twitter. They were mad at each other for something on. There was a twitter number so then forces like. Didn't you hear the apology? Which by the way not an apology. Not that they're dealing with me so like she did say sorry in there somewhere. I can use like rally people trying to Hello People. I get an opie dry dude arguably is and marlins like up to your policy and can't will you accept the apology or not kidding us. It's done. Let's just say it's done okay. And so now. They're all against suddenly there. Okay well let's just talk so then meany tells us I would never say things about a child but you know when you're beefing sale kinds of things I never even realized I said that So it's over so now they had like let's get back to this ridiculous you know. Tiara thing or crown and Kenya does not WanNa do it anymore. Portions like you've gotta say like no you don't have to worry it doesn't have to be a beef. It can be a positive thing that you say about each other because basically marlow has it on and Marla wants to address Kenya and Kennedy does not want to deal with that so finally like okay fine some are Lagos. Feel like what you did to. My event deserves an apology. And Kenya's like okay. I feel like I feel like I have to say a lot because if you don't remember the things that you say and you to me. I don't know where I can go from there you know. She's like things are off limits. My mother my daughter and you sit there and you want an apology now after you came in and tried to destroy me the way my family did and poorest like she's I am Arles like no. Let me speak to you for real now. I know you're good at acting. It was like okay. So it's like Oh God enough. So she gets up and leaves and the Marlowe applauding her like crucial. Yeah do I look like? I'm acting when I'm talking to you. I'm like no because you actually speak in a much more awkward and strange way when you when you try to act so you don't look like you're acting so candies like fifth. Sit down come on just finish. A and Kennedy's candy tells her stopping the person that walks away. Just stop so. She runs after Kenya and then Marles like listen girls. I'll tell you right now. The things I said about her mother were awful all all Yucky. She's like I apologize. It was wrong like well. If you were going to apologize for why did you open it? Up with a with a bar like micro aggression about her acting unless she was trying to unless he was trying to queue up something like. I know. You're a good actress but in this case I know you're being sincere like but there was no indication that there was like a but after the actress comment right Marlow. That's not how you apologize either. You don't you don't front loaded with something that's GonNa make some defensive and not be ready to hear your apology. Yeah so candy. Chain chases after Kenya in Kenya like she's slapping candy. Ua being all dramatic And I don't feel for you can. Yeah okay I don't care if you're getting divorced. I don't care if somebody says something about your baby look at all the Shit you do to other people. Okay so you should sit and have to take it to and yes everybody's attacking you but you've attacked everybody. So yeah I really feel for you. I don't know I I wouldn't say that I feel for her but I I guess I understand her frustration. I mean she literally literally filed for divorce like three days ago. I it's just. It's so fresh and she has to go on this. She asked me on this trip with someone just like one or two people that she just hates but someone that he really detests someone. Who has her her soon to be XS back. I mean this is like many marker pals and she has to sit there and then she has friends telling you to play. Nice with her and she and then they're coming at her an awful as Kenya is. I can understand why she's just like you know what fuck this. I can't my fairytale life that I put blinders on for the past two years two or three years and is now falling apart and I'm now the laughing stock of the Internet and these women. It's all falling apart. I had to put on this facade. I don't WanNa deal with US anymore and so I I'm not saying that I have compassion in the sense of like she you know she replied her. She sewed but I understand why she's just like fuck this yeah So see re runs off. And he's like well. If this is how you wanted dessert honey go to a bakery. Because that's how you that's how you bring dessert every time I hear Imbaba dessert dessert. Yeah it's like. She's saying she deserted. Um Her whatever but okay I. I took it like if you want dessert. Honey go to a bakery. I'm sick of your dessert dessert. Or maybe it was like the ruins party was supposed to be dessert after dinner or like this is the it was it was it was unclear is unclear comic moment so. Tanya throws her crown of the water. And then it's done and then in the morning Cynthia's doing some weird sitter eggs thank you. Thank you bye-bye Francais. Because I think she's friends with the with the wind but yes not really weird ass shit because at first when you first see her. She looks like she's making standard scrambled eggs. They're fluffy and she's moving them around. But then the very next shot they are like flat like a crepe and then she's got her spatula scraping into them. It's almost like she overcooked them and they were flat and just try to scrape it off the pan. I was like this is a woman who has never cooked egging her life. And I think she's using a foregone pant very bad for you Ma'am yes the Porsche. Sit by the pool and talk about what a disaster last night was and they believe in our intention we were. Yeah Porsche like how you doing this more so wrecked I'm GONNA have to go back to ten yawn to to recover. So Nina comes out dancing in her Kaftan because she basically went to sleep getting what she wanted which was destroying so since. She's got her hair back. She's backing legless pure leg. Alas Yup there's something she's doing at night when she goes to the bathroom because every morning. She's like wow. That was crazy. Wasn't it and I thought Kenya might shoot me like do you. Do you not remember anything that happens the next day. What's her what's her deal. She's so different by then she is in the day. She's basically like Ma on on thunder cats right like mumma spends most of the show just like this decrepit like weird mummy figure. I'm Carol Rats like I'm but then like number does something right that does remember how pool or some water or something like that gets activated and then mom raw. Because like that's like meeting means Memora- I didn't watch thunder cats. Now I never will. So thank you for taking away from me during quarantine wow. I cannot even believe that I've seen in my lap cat. I don't know how to respond to that so you don't even understand about Lion Panthera nope kitten hat because what I don't care K. Wow kitten cat. I had kitten cat lemon flavored the other day quite delicious aide whole bag. Thanks doing what I did yesterday. watch cats not the movie but the musical and wow. That's you know we'll we'll circle back that. Yeah it's pretty funny. 'cause everyone's acting like the movie is so bad. I'm like do you remember the musical Ari? Are we not remembering what this is? Based on people there was okay. There was literally in towards the beginning. There's that white cat that like comes out and does a Solo dance number and she is just doing yoga and like I guess in the eighties. That was that was like who was like unheard of because Yoga had not caught on. And so she's literally just doing trio's and it's like ooh. The Majesty a cat on one leg with another leg up in her crotch. Wow like this trip. This is dance. Yeah there you go cats retail okay. So speaking of meany. Daffy Priscilla. Yeah so then Cynthia in Kenya talking And and Candy comes over and I'm sorry Cynthia and candy go over to Kenya's house. Yeah and they WanNa talk about last night we oh Jeez. Kenya Lahser footsteps by the way one finds them so so now we have like a cross cutting between the two groups. Right Candy Cynthia Kenya and then everyone else. So then we go back to Nina and Hanya and Knees asking Tanya if she felt like she had any closure with Kenya and Kenya's like it was going well into we got interrupted at. Then you know kind of like No like she didn't she didn't get didn't get interrupted. No one interrupts. Kanye okay that she found a way to duck out of that conversation. Yeah and then. She just laughed typical Kenya. You have to do you remember that point. You literally left the same fight alot reports. It's like well my thing is with Santana. I if you're not going to tell you the real issue you have to bring it up. I mean it's not like she's just teasing she's going for Your Business and no one's GONNA come after hot dog hair care how many you have right now. Maybe that doesn't have a real issue with Kenya. Because as far as I could tell Kenya was shaking her a better business. Cynthia wasn't really minding until the girls will like. You should really be upset about that since it was like. Yeah that is sort of annoying so then. She told Kenya. Don't do that anymore. But they don't feel like basically. She was assertive enough about it. Even that was more their issue than it was. Cynthia's issue I know but I love how all the girls are acting so innocent like poor Kanye. Let's be there for Kenya when they're sitting here. Like okay tenure. You were supposed to get her. You didn't get her. Cynthia was supposed to get her but she didn't get her well. That sox they're planning on going for Kenya but that said I see that the Kennedy desert in my mind so then ten years like well. What did she get so mad? G MEANING SAYS I don't know I mean. I said her hips for fake. So maybe that's why they all start cracking up so then meanwhile Kenya's talking to the latest bout Nina. She's like I mean any. You aren't fifty two years old. You have to find a better way to communicate true although Kenya is not the Paragon of communication either. Okay I think actually doesn't group may need some tips on how to communicate. It's bad when Porsche has suddenly Become ascended to the to the role of of group communicator. That she can sort of like moderate or mediate these fights now that Porsche is the one doing that. Something's something's off. Yeah and Cynthia's like well you know. I will say this Kenya last night. Meany really was come to show. He's a guy and when I say genuinely I mean. I made her do it and she didn't want to but I made her again. It's like that's bullshit. How can you say it's January? When the first chance she gets you hurts me and candies like yeah but now she's now she's GonNa have all this because you said so much too relaxed night now she'll be able to hold that against you today. Yeah exactly and Kenya's like she's basically like did she call me and can like well. She said it's you face to face because what she didn't reach how and it's like well yeah. But even this weakening he was trying to have a conversation with you before conversation Porsche and I mean I will say that when when it comes to things like this. I did she calm did she. Call me it's funny because if people don't get the call they're like oh they didn't even call me but then it's like it is face to face but then if if someone gets the call they say well they called me but they didn't even give me the respect to talk to me face to face you can like never win in those situations also not. I hate defending meany but people when people start doing that thing so then tanny. It's like well. She still holds herself up to different standards. And that's not fair and purchase like yeah that buffalo comment was reach. So yeah they're all basically planning on ganging up on Kenya which is funny because they all have to choose one side. You know why. Why can't you up on both of them? Like why are you so okay to fix meany or forgive me Whatever so forces that I I was a key and now you know now Kennedy is going to be. She's GonNa pressed on the insults last night to be mad as well. Those are like genuine things to rest on. I don't know where you're calling on them. But yes but but she's right though. Because and that's what happens with these feuds on the I mean on all shows but especially on this show. I feel like like you said this all started with some stupid twitter thing you know because Kenya is always so good at delivering some shade on Twitter. And then he falls into the trap each and every single time like every single time and he gets so mad and then they have a feud and then it could be squashed so easily but instead he does something and then Kenya. Susini does something. Kenny is just all too happy to then play the victim in some way like. Oh my God is what she said about me. And then that's a big feud and the point. Is that whatever? Whatever it was the initial problem gets forgotten about because now you have like a lack of of insults over and over and over again so now the new fight is going to be about what he did last night to Kenya as opposed to really what the core of it was. I know they need to have rules. Because I'm so sick of having to remember what happened last season. You're mad at something it's too much. It's too hard. I need a Van Dyke checklists. We need a checklist of things. Need to be apologized for and would they don't even remember them. You know when you are reaching back for the buffalo comment it's like Oh my God you have to reach back that far. She said Shit about you. This season you can use. I cannot so Cynthia's Cynthia's like well why don't we just all force it down because that always works? Listen people in this group have got over worse things than you guys than your fight and she that I never had a husband. I never had a child and she wed for bow. I'm sure well you've never been accused of rape sell Porsche can't is like I guess it because you couldn't read between the lines of what I said in my last comment that people have gotten over way worse things. I'll just spell it out for you. I was accused of rape by Porsche. Okay we're on a trip together so get over it bitch. Yeah and I get what she's saying because yes she did have to speak to poor but it's not like they're letting favor back on the show or anything like true. Like how far does this forgiveness last really totally find with pager that too well the difference is that fair dra favor was conning and Ninian Candy? Aren't really coming. You know can you can you? I think is shrewd and what she does and she's shrewd and being able to manipulate a situation where she's the victim but she. She's not she doesn't work at that high level of failure in terms of hatching plots that are so intense that people can literally wind up in jail because of them. I don't know about that. I think Kenya's pretty cutting you think she says cutting US Pedra. Well no one. Is this kind of major? I mean it's true famous famous one of the masters. You know although like that. Yeah yeah she's she's the lowest for sure although I also don't know exactly how conning failure is I mean we elevator up to this level of this like this mastermind but it's more like she just around herself with people who are allowed dumber than she is so then she looks a lot more cunning than perhaps she is. It's kind of like if I say here's the plan. Hey Hey buddy. Why don't you go rob that bank? Most people say no. Why would I do that? But if you got a real dumb person says okay. I'll do that then. I look like a mastermind but I just made a very stupid request and someone was dumb enough to follow it. Yeah I'll give you five dollars to steal five million dollars. Okay you give you a baby to you before I go to prison. Okay sounds great. Yeah it doesn't make you. That doesn't make you like that. Cutting sharp just means that you just were smart enough to find people around. Yeah you're better at hiring. Basically you're really good with personnel. So can't be is like look I had to get over. Get over it with four. You know so. Guess what I don't care. We're going to have fun today. And you know I was on big brother with Lindsay's mom and Lindsey has a club here coke not expecting. Yeah you're going to Greece to publicize the low hand. Beach Club really. This chose Greece. I didn't even realize that. That club existed outside the TV show. I thought that was that show was done like the low hand beach club was turned back into what it was before which was like the low end. You Know Muffler Stores. Whatever it is over there but she says that she wants to do a whole bunch of fun team. Building Games which made I'm like immediately dreading that. I'm having flashbacks to like every year on marriage medicine when Dr Simone shows up strangely patterned asymmetric bathing suit being like today. We're gonNA find the shells and every shell that you find Houthem after the Shell and if you can ask the shells then you don't have a good relationship Well it was that so everybody goes goes to get ready to go to this thing and then they all jump on the van to go to this team building exercise and they announced is this when they announced they're having a goddess part. Does it really matter? Yeah the sort of in the mix here maybe later. I don't know somewhere. I'm one of the Van Rides Goddess Party announcement. All I know is I can't in the van sitting up and they all think that she's awake now. They realize that she's asleep. Which is so candy so he gets a Lo Han seaside and is there. Hello Panels Jeez. This queen really works as he from the show. Ya ever watched the show. Yeah he's the he's the main guy on the show. He's like Well I guess Lo Han is the Lisa Vander prop of the show. He's basically the least. He's one that works Lindsey. He has a big part. Peter doesn't have a big Oh so he's like he's almost like thom sound of all if like if Lohan if Tom Tom and Sir where the same restaurant yeah. He's the one who's like you know what Lindsey one like this. I'm going to have to tell Lindsey goes meeting and Lindsey has to drag us off the bathroom floor. You know he's like get your nose. Get your nose off the bathroom floor Lindsey stunt ago and she's like I wide bad for my people my feeling so yeah so anyway they get they get there and The the Women Candy is GonNa be. She's going overseas activities. And she splits everyone into teams Kenya and Tanzania Ninian Porsche and sent the marlow and they're going to be doing They're gonNA be doing these like fun. Little activities like the first one is. It's almost like from survivor. Where one person is blindfolded and HASTA LIKE TALK? Walk around a chair. He's like basically it's like now you to sit on the chair and then walk around the chair but you have to step out of this effort step on the discovery rights and then you have to build a business proposal for. Todd's new Mexican restaurant and then step on the leftist minute other right disc on the chair and she basically stole games from Big Brother noticed. I notice that I was like this feels so big. It's actually. She actually did them. Better like the production quality was actually better than the big brother gambling. The honest see that one where they have to link up arms and go get water and then come back and fill up the water jugs I mean that's like straight out of Big Brother Candy. Come on like we know big brother but come on you go on big brother and you have some plan with low hand to come suit in in this fucking club and now you're doing big brother. Games. What is going on here is candy getting money from Dina to do all this. I was just wondering why there wasn't like a Phallic object spitting like milk at them. Something because that would be truly badly. That marlow would win that one. That would be blatantly unfair. Yeah so so this first thing so basically one person's the caller and telling the blind the the blindfolded person okay to the left of the right and Marlow is just like standing there. Cynthia trying to yell at her and Marlow is standing there like the twins in Shining. She just like welcome to the game. You know very scary. I didn't take a lot of spark so I was like. Oh thank God nothing for a while. That's literally all I wrote down. I just wrote down. That Marlo looked like both of the twins in the shining standing together. Like those twins if someone told those twins to team building exercise this is what it would have been marlowe standing in the water waiting for direction. this is what the scene looked like to me. Whatever was on Instagram? Because that's what I was doing while. The seamless flying. I wonder how everybody's dealing with bikini buying into the Roth Mira's there were there. Were some high like there. Were some funny parts lake You Know Cynthia being just terrible lead on all. These things was hilarious. Marla makes sit down on the stool but intentionally tells her to sit down away from this tool so she falls on her ass and then needs Titi. Just goes like flopping out at all times like this big Lake it looks like it looks like a paddle on pinball machine right like right at the bottom of the ball like you have to hit the ball up again it was just like flapping up and down like there should have been a button on me to make her titty just like flap and then when they got into Did you watch when they went into the back to back thing? Yeah watching Porsche just Yank ne-near around was hilarious to me because you know me. I hate these. I hate to team building segments of Wacky Games but Porsche just dragging all around that beach. It was kind of amazing so you really did. I forgot how strong Porsche was. It took me back to that reunion where she dragged Kenya across the floor by. I mean she picked up meany. Animas la like it's for. It was in Kenya actually worked together really well. They're like let's just walk sideways. Yeah they figured it out. after the everyone's like. Oh my God we're sisters. And then after that everybody goes to get ready for their big. Ghana's party yeah so it's now we're back at. The villa and Cynthia goes into candies room in this like of course like looking beautiful an dislike gray shimmering God stress and she's got cheekbones gotta cheekbones also the God of Jail Jail Digital Goddess. So candy the size that they're gonNA do some Greek theater tonight and they're gonNA play meany and Cynthia having a talk since they are meany and Kenya having a talk since they refuse to do do it themselves. It's just sounds like a great idea. Guys sounds like this is GonNa work out in your favor. Yeah because can use like. She's like now if you go in. You have to have got his party. I mean that's what they're known for mythology alert. I don't know why that was so funny to me her saying that's what they're known for. Mythology Hiller so she wanted to. She said she wanted to a Greek tragedy with Cynthia where I think as you just said where they play Ninian Kanye. She wants to a Greek tragedy. Because she said she wants to make everyone laugh. I'm like you know that's not how tragedies work right. That's literally a different genre. And then she's trying to feed lines to Cynthia which aren't really very good lions. She says she says look a so. Say that. Look honey try to talk to you. And then you're saying everything's just fine. And since he was like piece to commemorate please why do I have to? Please don't make the way to do this. Please yeah and then like candy is going to be doing. A Kenya's like pumping. She does like a little karate chop which I never noticed. But it's so true that she totally does this thing with her hand and so they're like okay. This could be fun. Isn't feels like okay? I'M GONNA go downstairs to get a drink so and so I can quote unquote stay in character. And so can't he laughs jokes because and then the scene just cuts off on her so next candy is standing at the buffet which is covered in tin foil and trying to eat stuff on it but then the cats keep coming back and trying to get it in cats away. I know I was like get out of there was a bellow. Yeah and she's like you're not even our guest like Suray or it's like a mini trying to get into race party so then all the girls arrive. And Portions I. And then you need slopping Sangria around all over the floor because she's meany and that's how she does and then they have a little activity where Kenya and candy. We're gonNA give everyone got US names. But they're like you know what for the first time in the history of this show? We realized that this will just be too incendiary so everyone gets the name themselves so Porsche chose Aphrodite. E because she's the goddess of love and beauty and Candy of course is. I don't know how to pronounce this. Tice teach type. She wise. I teach teach to frame. Teasha so I'm going to go with Teasha got because she's the goddess of Fortune Prosperity and TACO TRUCKS. GotTa Sports Goddess Gossip Fortune Prosperity and Brunch spinoff restaurants. And Kenya's thing because she has wisdom and her real hair would never wear way and unions girl. If you had any wisdom would have made up with me a long time ago like I don't know a lot of people have made up with you and it still hasn't worked out so well for them. Well this whole Greek trip. It totally makes sense now. Why knee is dressed. Like the Guy. From little caesars in her confessional that WIG with bangs true. Hit me watching this peanut pinup pizzas. I had people that little caesars guy with his amazing jostles meany associates like a scene. It's also the kind of support I am easel. Which is the Aeros else? Does the Goddess Jeff Bezos? I cost one hundred dollars a year. But you don't have to pay for shipping. Marlow is automatic. Got Us at the hot ornaments is like one of my least favorite of the major twelve gods and goddesses. Unlike marlow WHO's better. Tanya is huby goddess of youth is that he be or Heeb. I Dunno Cynthia's hero goddess of marriage Gaza marriage and also the goddess of microphone has been when Mike Open MIC got us have hashtags got us a kitchen island and since he was like. Hello. Who's getting married now? And she shows her ring to the camera and she goes. Who's thirsty now? Not just want everyone to know that in Greek in Greek mythology here as mayor Marion disease and they have a long history of Zeus cheating on era. Like like me like like. It's basically I feel like every other myth is here hero finds out that Zeus turned himself into a swan so he can have sex with a lady and then she goes in terms of the lady into like a piece of moss or something like that. It's like everything's like yours. Fuck this fucking around. Yeah I think here is not a great one. Maybe like dyonisis. Just have fun. Drink wine you. She should be denies this year. The frigate mind seller I. I literally just got so mad right now. I have to calm myself down. So many psych well. I wouldn't eat manna that. There's cats up there trying to eat the food and she's like well. I wouldn't need that anyway. Okay candies like I am over. These cats like hasn't the movie gone through. Enough commodity. I assess this place got more positive and so now they announced that. There're there in Greece so candies I you know I gotTa Roll on the Chai. So no kiss. You haven't heard on the side so they did Greek theater in Greece. And so right now. Cynthia and I would like to perform a Greek tragedy and Tannock you're because you're amuses Since he is going to be any and I will be Kenya and Kenyan meany both of course totally pissed mission and so needs like the tragedy is being on the triptych recently. Kanye so she is not happy at all and and candy is like well. Or they're best like Wilson Union. Kenya won't have conversations. We are going to be you guys and we will have the conversation and Indian Kanye. Just have the biggest tank faces on like. Oh fuck these bitches like. It's bad enough that we are like we are subjected to this and now they're going to do this and their innocence. It's kind of like they're angry. That they're gonNA they sense that they're going to be mocked and they're gonNA be pitted against each other but also I feel like on a certain level like the candy. The the knee Kenya makeup seeing will be a big scene and in a weird way. Candy and Cindy are taking it over. So that's probably also some of their stank. Yeah and Kenya tries to pretend that she's okay with it. She's like I'm going to record. This was like that is going to the lawyer like live streaming this right now to her lawyer. Yes so suddenly unions She's like oh I've got to go pee. I'VE GOTTA GO PEE. So she gets up to to leave and she's like well it's Okay. I don't have to be here for this. Has Let me know how it goes sin. Everyone's like oh well now. That's this was fun but now it's not fun anymore because she left. Yeah and then we see ne- yelling at the producers because there's there's a group of producers trying to keep her there and she's like listen who the fuck do you think you are. What are you going to try and guard me and tell me what to do? You don't back with me. I mean real here do not fuck with me and I was like meaning. Do you really need to punch another producer seriously? I think he has like I think. Menial terrified to see herself. And the monster she been to me So Porsche goes what is she. Is She going number? One or number two and number three number three is when that bathrooms in Atlanta. Honey Yeah and then we have a montage. Yeah leaving parties meany leaving Montana's so then so then then I'm gonNA check on the baby and now like I said I was only going to represent her in the best light possible. Which is the light of kitchen island kitchen island which is new island in Greece? I don't know what I'm talking about child. I'm just trying to improvise theater. Also this this trip ends on a big fail but you guys need to. You guys can't prove that you can do a show without meaning and Kenya. Why you insist on making meaning Kenya at the center of everything at all times. Like it's a bad by the cast like you shouldn't be giving no one cares if Kenya Anini makeup like literally. Nobody cares nobody needs it in their life so that you can be interesting on your own you know when these idiots go to bed. Stay up and do something fun you know. It's like just keep giving the show up to them. Well I mean I mean it's a it's a good rivalry. I enjoy it because they are kind of like the Q. Queen's the show in a sense of what's funny. There's there's several different queens on the show but they are like the two big the big marquee names. I would argue on the show. So it's like watching Godzilla and Mothra go at it for people who care about that. You know it's just it's it's IT'S. It's like an epic war and you know. What is the latest in this epic war but that being said I will continue? I will continue say Nina. Her time is up she. We don't show does not need her. It gets more annoying with her and she can be very very funny and she has moments where you really do. Love her again. But ultimately Kenya is the villain that the show needs and it Nina's irrelevant. He has a get rid of a and that brings us to the end of real housewives of Atlanta Well you guys. Thank you for listening. 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#43 Fostering Growth In Startups And Building Community

Stories Behind the Grind

57:35 min | 2 years ago

#43 Fostering Growth In Startups And Building Community

"On this episode of stories behind the grind, listen to my conversation with pita Ellis. Ceo of revisiting labs and found up three AM tribe. We discuss how to win the half fun event with the best ups have had a boat with community. Why founded mental health she'll be a priority? My name is out in buffalo in here. You will find business strategies tips and tactics that he can cope not Anini rent venture, the July to help you thought and strategically grow scouting up. The impact you having this world. Listen as I'd hoped prince innovators again changes, and what it takes to go to an impactful business uncoupling incites strategies in tips to help you increase profitability and developed teen culture. Welcome to the stories behind the poll costs. Peter, thanks so much for coming on the stories behind the garden PO cost. It's great to have you on. Thank you. Having me video. The CEO is river city labs, the co founder of paid persona in Neff ound her a three AM trod, you've hosted is judged. And mentor over twenty startup weekends and half-owns, and you've launched the young entrepreneur network curious to weigh your facination with startups developed from that is a really good question. Look, I don't think I I had a fascination with setup. It was definitely more. I sort of failing to the spies will mine are in, you know, personal career evolution evolved in a land. Somehow when I came across startups, I was running my PI lacking juicy which had done for ten years prior to joining river labs and a few of my clients customers with startups that was back in if you're at win. People creating apps, and that was pretty much we'll setups where it was very very early stage. So I did a lot of Piane publicity full newly launched applications and different platforms to things, but I could definitely see a trend towards tech and the ability that tech had transform small businesses or businesses in general their systems and processes to enable them to scale and grow and create new products in the back of that. And through a few friends of mine who did who were, you know, software, developers were working in the space on mitt a few other founders at receipt apps after attending an event there. And then just basically the opportunity that with my marketing hat on a my publicist head on to tell stories in the pretty much about the knows who are working out of the I thought it was fascinating that all these people are sort of at space known really knew what they were doing in there. And I I knew a lot about business in events in bring people together. So I could definitely ring. Have a bit of an impact by bringing my wells than on you very well into a space that wasn't so publicized. And in any using a group of people who are extremely technical into the hills of networking in credit events. And and merging the two type abilities together, I suppose, and that's how pretty much started for me. I guess I mean typically sulfate develop an startup founded down is like you said a quite technical. How did you manage to marriage that up to your mouth cutting which can be quite forward facing? Well, it's a few pots to that. Obviously. The entrepreneurs themselves will the technical people, obviously working on projects they're focused on what they're doing on offering look up to to look at how that could potentially market the concept all have clever right with others just sort of Sean a different lot and what we're doing. But also technical people naturally the most social people so to draw them out to events reach evolve. A lot of human contact the socialization and networking isn't isn't a natural state of happiness for a lot of people. So I I did it very small scale gently very, comfortable safe environment. We didn't even see labs. Arvin spice was rotten egg show by so I didn't have to go very far. It was a safe environment wasn't confronting but did actually highlight the benefits of connecting with other people outside of this circle. So talking with people from different backgrounds and also introducing business people in who had ever. Really nit. This whole subset of people that were working on amazing things. And and really that's where you know, the whole concept of collaboration and community stemmed from in the startups sec DAR es, he's basically some of those really early vents and only had to do is make sure that the two parties came together, and then the rest did take care so but with a lot of guiding of follow up judy's and checking in with people to make sure that connected with you. They needed to be connected. Tune and then also teaching the basics of of networking and following up and marketing when I one have you actually market your own self as a person as a fan doesn't entrepreneur as well. As also what you want because most people always just think about the product forget about them. So as the founder, and you know, as we will know in business, you not always gonna be wak- one concept. So it's just as important to market yourself as it is tomorrow your product will business those listening. Do you have any tips? That you see in most successful startups doing tombs of have defense. Yes. It always comes down to her holiday push and the ones that push had his wing every single time without file there. It's it look. There are some fantastic companies. It's fantastic found is absolutely mudflow to the right odd. Do really great things. And you hear about them until all of a sudden, they're you know, they're gonna team fifty and they're expanding overseas. Said there are some of those. But we also do have love cases of the founders who got involved in things win mitt. We've people follow it up peach to every single thing. Sometimes you think man, we've got every way can they sleep each at another event. It's just the hustle. It's their resilience that they build up from getting a little the knows the getting the crap feedback will having people tell them that the ideas, not great, look, whether it's doesn't really matter. It's had found a handles the feedback and had a package it themselves. From deal with it and process, it do they respond differently. Next time do they frame new peach differently? The following time did actually go back and fix the beep, which everyone's telling them probably doesn't work. So I think it does definitely contribute to the success of the business is being put yourself out gay. It's really hard to do. Because it's scary. Getting feedback is confronting that. They're a so many cases of the ones who did do that. And keep refunding working on it. And just never really giving up. Of course, it's it's just a hard to do. Sometimes, you know, you don't have any money and go to customers, you know, you team members who wouldn't be paid. And getting knows pitching VAR mental you don't get selected to the last round. And you just you have not take so much energy to keep putting yourself out it, and it takes a phenomenal sense of either internal belief of yourself oil believing product sometimes amendments to just keep going, and you know, that ease resilience building which. Really really comes into play lighter on witness some big things happen in your business for those financial issues team shoes invest precious when you're going through growth phase all of that. It's like a little toolbox you build over time. You know, when you guys rethinks create resilience, but really hard to do you're on the other side, you building amazing survival keys that you can eventually co alone subconsciously when you do textbooks three business that enable you to keep moving through this challenging period. So Todd as it is. It's all part of the building internal framework of becoming this super Fanta. If there is such a thing just threw every sort of why they put themselves out there the through this resilience, they build up a I guess a case study case study for themselves. They can absolutely every time tons yet. Any of these? It's like I said it doesn't matter for this current business on the next one over the next. One because he never every single time. You you know, you do the loops there you're gonna get the same Rena roller coaster journey. Sometimes Phillips will be biggest sometimes these sometimes you'll come up against them straightaway. Soon as you launch something sometimes the be began road, but you're always gonna hit them. And it's how you you know, how quickly your recovery periods from those Ohio move through them, and you know, who you have around June. How you engage hoping those moments is really important as well. Definitely for sure I wanted to speak that's probably with the value of startup communities like river city labs can help. When you've got these a surrounded by these like minded people in Glovas disapora around you can definitely help create through those those loops in this whites absolutely end look up in been banging on about the value of community for years now and eat something that I still believe is absolutely number one. It's Dan number one focus said busy loves these make. I mean is a found us every single thing we doing there is for. China's and entrepreneurs we can't be helping them them. We're not doing our job rods and pod of that ease creding environment with ask surrounded by the people just like them going through various stages of the very, you know, of the same journey doesn't matter. What companies there is going to be somebody who's come up against a very similar Hodel, and nobody wants to consultant talking to them when a better problem that you know, they just wanna talk to someone from their own experience on what they did. Because, you know, taking advice from someone who has not felt that feeling that you felt before it's just not thin take any kind of under believable to be honest, and it has to confident pliable into city and just the collapse of learning really do speed up when you can just reach out to a Pia who you know, that can be sitting next to you that can be on this leg channel on you just reach out with a quick question in the back. It's it's just that trusted network. I suppose if you know somebody's been they're coming from a genuine place, and you know, it's such. She place yourself. You would want to help someone else through quick us. So, you know, he'd go semi to share as well a very encouraging. You wanted to help somebody else moved through that same challenge if he can do that by sharing your own personal experience of that. Then great if not you can definitely refer them to at least rather people who can. But yes, absolutely community is key in that environment. Not not just for the problems of businessmen. Also to share a winds, you know, it's not all doom and gloom. They're this great times. When you you know, when you do really, well or you win something or you get some customers, you know, the only person customers congregate understand excitement of of getting someone on up to objectionable on Mon day. What that looks like and ease is sort of people who have gone through that before will, you know, we've been cold occult before butts. I don't necessarily thing that the bad thing. It depends. What you know what you can see that? I think it's just a group of people who get it. You get you head space. I understand why you're doing it. And who want to help each other? Yeah. Think of India would call I guess we're fest to just the strong culture that you haven't revisited labs. Yeah. I like to think in its culture as well. And that's the top of culture, you know, that we have always promoted his give fest give back connect and leaning towards other world there, and you can be surrounded by so many people yet. No, it's talking and the semi factors that contribute to that. So we'd like to have the ability to connect either physically oil in person all with specific mental on certain topics or European other entrepreneurs where experts in the field puzzles online. We we've got all of our Lum nice to have access to university lab slack channels. So we've got people sitting in other countries that we can chat to at any given time, and I can make jet to us as well. So the strength of the network is quite phenomenal. And it grows each year, which is something that I'm really proud of those brilliant. I mean, every I guess every new in touch of found can then leverage the Dominican as that have been at revisited labs and all. The other found is that have been exactly where they have been so bad for mainly anticipate. You know, the the ecosystem obviously is growing as well. So the level of of aware we're all where a lot of the companies act in terms of stages of development. You know, what we started in two thousand twelve it was still very much trying to explain to industry corporates in government. What a stat up woes at least do that anymore. We've definitely moved quite rapidly through that journey, and we have all of those potties in psychology in bulbs now that part of the compensation, and the system isn't a you know is maturing. It's definitely still on the global scale, you know, a few years behind, but we've definitely met a lot of progress in the last five to six years and the ecosystem itself, an entrepreneur's definitely working within really lodge, nudge companies now who operating a multiple countries all around the world, which is great not just a little Brisbane seen anymore. Lot of hikes cues here gene's working all over the world, which is really exciting differently for those for those who want to build a community within the business itself. There any learnings from river city labs that you could share with them on you know, what a Ban Ki thinks to look for when trying to foster this community, obviously types of February effort to to get away you have now they're in the wisdom. You can share kicks eight term. It's an it's a long term thing. And you have to be doing it for the right reasons. So eats press re- are always about you know, we would extremely closely with that customer. So if you not connected, take out all the coal people who you're trying to connect San even have a hard time building community because it's like a little mini business in itself, obviously. And at the center of every business if the customer who has made them once in desires, if you not meeting any of those you not going to be able to grow community. So for us. It's about. Always checking in with our members and understanding what do they want a happy? Are they getting what they need? Do they need more connections? Or do we need to do more events to they won't more. You know, happy hours on Friday, whatever it is whatever industry you're in. If you don't regularly touch base do the that's a combination of physically reaching out. You know, human-to-human fun cool or in person or doing survey, it's constantly checking back with them making sure they're getting what they need. And that they have a reason to connect back into the community because you you the sun many times when you know, you can create a thriving community. It'll be nothing full of people engaged and then there'll be trouble. And that's quite as well, this general life sokoll of things, and you know, those people might have had on any minute. I've got the information. I need super connection that move on. And that's fine. But there is also opportunity to re-engage them at live stage if they need something. Else then you might need to level up and provide a different level of access to information or access to people or could just be when people get to a sit stage, then I move on. And I think there is just constantly assessing that life cycle, and what they need along the way and seeing how you can help it takes a lot of work, and you need someone dedicated to that role and checking in and being aware and being a main contact person, I think people love people with over. I'm Pat forms and technical systems, especially people in the chick spice, so nice to talk to person every now, and then so we'll see vice things will have a reason to show up. Most of the times, you know in advance on we want some key people to come in. They'll come because we've asked him to not because you know, they feel it should be there. It's just that personal connection that eagle usually get people across the line. You definitely don't Cubans love humans one hundred mental aids. Really? Yes. Commence with others. And they're like, you said, I it will become a bit disenfranchised Ovik sicav dealing with, you know, big corporates faceless companies NAS to say the little yet different end community can be delicate to you take the wrong pens in terms of you know, to operate or run or or leaders in. It's sorta Vida it's not the best person to connect people together that can also disrupt, you know, the communities. Well, so it's interesting to find the right personality to to drive a communities squad. A unique thing in tights awhile to understand what the communities need today and find that rob personal group of people and it's worth taking time. Because if you sort of disrupting the tight it can take quite awhile against to build up either the trust in the community own at connected feeling that you had a launch. How you you mentioned in frustrating community is running a business in really just in terms of. Standing the needs of if it's a community the needs of its members in to deliver as much as you can on that needs any realize. Which needs to make I as well. Some show biz variety of needs everyone in in river city labs and its prodding what to welcome. I guess many needs the need to be met. And the thing is it's like, I liken it to parenthood today on us because we all know sunny, if isn't the baby stage, you get used to what it's like being a parent of a bike. And then all of a sudden the cover told you like, oh my gosh. When we do now, I don't know how to look after this the Egon Linda bunch of new skills in Munich Danaids in that school me like I now parent of a school educated. It's very similar with a with a community that's growing up through a phase lock startup ecosystem. You know? We were, you know, foster community vary only stage dot ups, and we had to meet the needs of those people all kicking off from the scratch, and you know, he'll all came to get involved and everyone's getting into this new phase of being a startup founder, and all of a sudden have a bunch of settled pandits defies with have been in business for one year. Now, how did it make any now they all need different things? I don't need the basic one on one information sessions anymore. And we need mental is to be better. Because all of a sudden I found as the way better, and we need to match them. We've mental with much better skills than we've had previously. And there were a sudden you've got founders of companies who, you know, a a most ill than any mental we've ever had or any previous alumni we need to really din up skill s hills. And how do we have we meet the needs now? And that's what I was saying about the evolution. Is. There comes in twenty time. When you when it's probably okay, didn't I leave the community because I that are new and you can't keep shifting and changing for everybody. You have to understand what point when you add the most value in stating and and that comes down to that intimate knowledge of exactly customers what stages and weaken at the most value because you can't keep everybody happy. It's it's finding that sweet spot. I think that's frost that the relation that we've gone through is understanding gun lots of things which has the big work. The most how can we continue to keep adding value there? And you know, make sure that everyone's getting sunny out of it. Yeah. That's that's a really big listen to learn often founders and business on his wanna try to plays. Everybody out there that it's it's it's very it's impossible to please everyone who plays a certain group of people then inevitably going to annoy some other people in. That's just the natural than the nitro the members econ count plays everywhere. Now, I bet you can also seats still either interesting. I we're gonna formula which is gonna break before it's gonna look and feature. It's it's not always like that you have to be on the bowl. And you know, a stink five steps ahead because, you know, especially in sick to like this everything moves so fast. Luckily for us, that's one advantage of Australia being a big a big further behind, you know, the global ecosystem will global markets is that we can look rather countries who thriving we'll have thriving ecosystems, and that culture. Look to see what they're doing. And learn from them. That's the beauty of nuts. That's what we do often. We run as got up cutlass missions internationally in that a number one. Why we get insight into exactly what lies countries doing? What are the spices? Do what is the community? Do what into the hosting hacker? We keep improving we need to, you know, obviously, make sure that we don't drop the ball on progressing in terms of access to information the tops of minds that we put your fun founders extremely competitive space. So it's perfect entrepreneurship because we're will competitive from we wanna keep doing Becca, and that should mostly wait we competing with us. So, but we would we're going to take everybody with us. We gotta take hold Canadian with us. So, you know, we always looking at different ways that we can make sure that we're not getting left behind. What do you say you say destroy is a sort of a big company is behind in the global scheme of things with ABC? Australia's thought up sick to going in the next couple of years. Herm que-. I think you know, we're gonna keep progressing this loads. Spices varies government money. Now. In terms of you know, h site has various initiatives pools of cashing in tapping to to eat a kickoff initiatives. Pergram? Spices is a lot of focus on the regional areas. Making sure that they don't get left behind the have to information tapping to the, you know, the larger hubs in an ecosystem, so we will keep progressing. We will probably still go too broad. I think at the moment, you know, there's an explosion of spices in programs in accelerators also things in everybody's doing a lot of things. And I think what we wind up seeing is people specialize and Setina verticals pop up. You know, a bit more of a focus on Di do that. Really? Well, those people over there do that. Really? Well, and if you're into this sector, you go to those people or your site, that's, but you know, you went from that space. I think we need to get to is really specialized help end specialized level of assistance, and hyper focused on nations in vehicles. So that we can wrap the best support the best minds and the best access access, the dollars, even sit sectors. So that when you know spreading across multiple citizen in industries. I think you'll get the best help with founders leader, you know, within program spices will expertise if we do specialize that way for the founder. I also know where to go to get the best deal who they mean to be Julian for the business. A Rolodex of in exactly the right startup span. So the exactly the route. So the mental it's different places to charter to me. And it look it's great for corporates to or even government Nakai if I wanna work which phen- tech companies where they who the best people in the game for this anything. I take you know, I went where all of the specific vocals where did I start ups guy wearing the best people? We can talk to about that. And for those companies from the looking to either get involved or partner week or investing that gives them a bit of a leg up in terms of getting started and how to regular role rather than what we see? Now is we see a lot of corporal pronunciations trying everything and they do little bit. It's been a bit over there. I tried it here, and they'll do one of those programs. Those people know do this sudden collectively, they spent equivalent of probably, you know, an annual sign evinced investment that could could've made into one really decent program that have supported Cain amazing companies that would have benefited the company directly or their sector perhaps. So instead of shopping around in. Little bits of everything it'd be great. If I could, you know, be directed towards the place where they should have gone the first time, but we're still not there yet. We're definitely hitting me. And I think we just need to be more time in the guy for everyone to the whole ecosystem to stabilize everyone funding, you know, happy place in the nation weather missed sort of a self discovery process. Not only for the found as the corporate government and started catalysts room city labs to really. A really solid foundation to through that the next phase of of course. Definitely for those thinking about joining sort of startup environment like river city labs, what are some ways? They can take advantage of the spice around. The look we have essentially admit anyone can come into Revie lives any anytime any day where I've been said if silly twenty four seven facility Memphis have access twenty four seven night coming with five cod can get some stuff done, but Faneuil in from the outside their events on most days with whip place with you know, advice within the setup precinct imported she'd valley. So if we don't have invent on the precinct usually does that something on every single day in that building, which is fantastic events afraid to attend at will avenge afraid to attend. But you can also dropping income and have a look around other than that. If you if you came in as you can do it dropping day pass looks from there for the day, we do open houses on the fest fun every month, which means we sort of opened the doors anyone from the we do a couple of tools we into. Into some members than we do. Open house drinks in the afternoon, which anyone can get up and have a peachy if they wanted to great opportunity to meet new people. So there are those up cheese that are that happen all the time. But then of course, if you were a member eats a matter of Sanni office amendment, which is pretty creek in easy to do. Then you have access to the workspace pool of them forty amazing industry mental within help at any time with Reynolds and different programs in their students. You know companies regarding the audio version validations digest, we have a pre accelerators twelve weeks mall wrought through to our Roussy lives accelerator, which is knighted stage companies nets full-time six month, accelerated program, we also do day workshops, we do a lot of corporate innovation workshops. We do programs with schools we do programs school teaches we do so many different structured programs. But for the everyday person you wants to come in and shakes at work from the the does Rodman the net access is really easy. A fun for us on how many? Avenues the Roth. Those who want to give the tow in. Those fully commit is definitely new lines of a range of like you said programs for them to take advantage of it's sort of anything from it. Absolutely. From from the dropping fast, casual member sheet, which gets you a seat in hot disc, Garin, you can have incoming near seven days a week will two days a month. It doesn't really matter have fulltime discs that as people tend to be more fulltime members coming day, they get it designated workstation, then we've got sixteen offices, which are full of companies at the moment, and that's philology teams usually from three to ten people a narrow gut range of companies in there at the moment. A lot of those companies in offices are alumni from Knicks pregnant food based Ione or other companies moving to Brisbane looking twenty to get involved in that up sector in but have a team radian and wanna take office. So there are multiple Chinese tweeted get involved from an external perspective or from internal spec. Stephen and really get involved in the community and be a member. And then, of course, for anyone who wants none of us options, but wants to give back we had we, you know, we invite mental in anyone didn't working with that up. So he has some experience we love entrepreneurs themselves to give back into time where we quite protective vow community and make sure that we put best people in front of them. And also, we we hope to get people that often the, you know, the fan of himself probably wouldn't gotta find on their own through various networks. So that we do really maintain that quality of mental. So you know, where I've put people to apply to be mental. And then also we do listen on the special projects and events. You start at weekends one of things we do want Enya late the really big events, but he's people can volunteer to get involved in those types of things when their mentor helper or whatever there is limitless opportunities to get involved, and so many different things that happen throughout the year, you'd never get bored. If you wanted to help out. One of those things to sons, and I was for you being a judge on the phones what are some of the same? Do you see any similarities in the teams that win? Yes. At whether the hacksaw or peach, Vince, or saddle wakened, the common thing, basically, it comes down to in his like, this exactly what investors look for of obviously when they watching a page from founder who's looking to raise capital is what is the fan to log that person. How do they understand the product at a very clear about the problem that is solving this problem? What are they asking full who's on a team where are they hitting? If they're asking something, then what they're gonna use it full. Meaning, you know after asking for capital exactly what they're going to spend it on do that had that clear direction. And it's it's it's it is a common theme so hack Afon off often. You've only had the weekend to work on the concept, you go probably newly formed team behind you. And the people who win hack phones in particular is is also the product as well as how will will the post impeaches, the concept, but you can have an amazing product in the tear will page unknown understands what you do even which quite sad 'cause you've built something phenomenal. But no one on the stands Helen's 'cause you pitch to poli. So absolutely the common thing is how well you can get your point across how will you compete each and eats just being a ticket about it. And being straightforward knowing you product in the numbers, all you stat customer who is your customer. What do they need? Are you getting all of ours points across in y'all often three five minutes, you've got to present anything can touch all of those points. You know, you're in with a good chance. And then it's up to the judge whether they win it. They lock you. Whether they're like your idea, whether they think he progressed enough through the weekend, we'd be idea whether you actually asked customers east I wanted this thing that you building all you even heads amused. Did you do any testing what take was involved? Did you actually build something will not you can build stuff in a weekends? A lot of people use lots of excuses wanna conned. But as so many out there the night would get something up. Something can be made by somebody across a weekend you'd have to work hard at not easy as one weekend, you might not get much sleep. But it's worth having crack because often the exposure get on the back of those types of ends is quite phenomenal in terms of the Pia, and it's up to you. Then how do you continue that marketing message post-event heck, can you keep taking that little Leonida Lou heck affront to make it into something? That sounds fantastic. It's up to you. You can push that through the social marketing channels quad Faye. Why if you're willing to the examples of successful people who've won two phones tighter from from a hacker Thon to where it is now. Yeah. Look one of the ones that we commonly talk about ease. We hosted back in two thousand twelve. We hosted the fist that it. Weakened queenside had at river see labs and the winner of that weekend was attained code fund capture, and they, you know, at the time they pretty much game a five the capture, you know, websites. We actually had to enter improve the derive out, and they just gave him a fodder gripe founding team really good concept, and they won that event, which you know, back then said it weekend. I think a couple of prizes, but the to God that was a fanny team of three. They ended up having a fan of sleep to decide on the idea at a unique background of skill sets between them both. But I were is basically the type of people that are talking about a full in terms of being relentless in pitching their idea every way for years, they would they would show up every single time every time I put a cool left something I throw they hadn't ring. No matter what stage. They're at no matter. How what the time constraints would I would always put their hand up getting bolts. And now they're still going, and they do exceptionally will the cold across leads now, they're actually based downstairs in the precincts of the level below us. Go team about. I think that got about thirty in Brisbane mall based overseas, I'm probably completely under ceiling this exists. But they are I think they invested in by pipe pal. So they are doing exceptionally. Well. Yes. Because they never gave out the understood the head something causes. It's changed a little bit. You know, obviously from the original idea, but the coal fame is it, and it was about solving in internet security issues values experience at had which the background was in gaming in using the default wise of doing things and pushing through undying guys had so many non ahead of the stories for years and the challenges that they pushed through in survived on tawny chain for such a long time. And now, they you know, they just hard. If you're you know, gun developer Brisbane, I can guarantee the hit onto your rotten now because I just cannot get enough would tell him to join the team, but sort of matching to say that grows that resiliency that they needed in developed of a period of time, you know, like, you know, hundreds of arts, and but for them to take that feedback haunt implemented an integrated. Into what they do to still carry on and keep going. I mean that that's testament to those found is who. You know, they were absolutely the top of this may one of the founders in particular would always be the person if I was intervention I saw someone that I wanted to be introduced to. I would always get Email from him post, you know, after the event and saying Peter so this person at event, would you gotta give me an introduction. So he always followed up an always asked, you know, you've got to ask the question, and I feel bad about being, you know, asking the introduction. If you wanna meet someone you've got to get in there. And you know, you just have to show up luck though. So many opportunities where there was sitting dignitaries that would come in as a guest, and we'd say these people coming in. And I'd be there for the chance that could possibly just make them. And every time the met them, they do the quick niche, and you know, most people think oh, gosh, all of this important person. I'm not gonna peach them, but you never know where it's gonna lead. You never know where the next introduction is gonna get you. And you know, people like that has sent me title, obviously on the back of that. They had a good product. But you know, you've gotta have that. That drive to keep going and the Hunga to chase downloads context, you're eating up the best product in the world. But if you're gonna give up at the at the first Hodel, then there's no point. So it's found a resilience is such a necessary sort of quality teenage end eight such a blocker for many people to get to grow huge. Let's sort of moving on from your vicinity labs in to touch on pig persona just a little bit. I guess that's the way I pay persona. So to come in his mind descendants alert also came from was disappointed. He's found is through the the mental struggles that come with runny and business. Look, it was definitely at the time. When I was involved. It was just a concept to you. I think it was just identifying what we had seen in around the lads within the ecosystem knowing what found is true because we get see the back end. We get see behind the scenes the hind the United the couldn't have the pitch event. And we know that the loops found of grocery. You know, what I've gotta do to prepare to you know, to meet their board for the first time, or what did they do to pit to, you know, take on investment and peach to invest, and that that's really scary. And like I was just saying before with the previous previous team it takes much every day to get up and Davidge do that and pull it off, you know, on the days when you just don't feel like you can all you want to does so much Enid that you go to do to yourself to even get into the rut Freeman. And that's where the original concept, you know, co pigs and came around was that found does need assistance on understanding themselves and one of the tools structures and routines and habits that can be adapted tonight. What you to give yourself? The best chance to position yourself will from the moment that you wake up to be outta gone perform that day because essentially full may my studies, and you could yes, you go to dual stuff, you know, sit down and actually do you work when you computer, but you've got to have. Meetings, and you're gonna pitch and then you know, you've got to hire someone which means you constantly selling. He putting yourself out there every day, which is a lot of energy output. And a lotta times yet you need to refill Cup again and data go in the next day or could have been just a really crept die with a lot of knows in a lot of negativity in had he not tight that energy into Unix meeting. Will you take it back to you staff who really rely on you for, you know, the energy and drive to keep the team going often some days, you know, they not getting paid not you'll probably get getting paid nothing. And you've got it go to get energy from somewhere. So whole concept with the program was like, how can we look get found us to look at themselves in a this how they operated a person and happen you optimize that so that you can at least give yourself the best chance down the best day each day. And you know, when how do you recover, I think how do you work? At your coverage period. I'm what you very streak is are, you know, for the ups and downs. And loops that you get you know, the crazy stuff he gets throwing away to build up the resilience in. Then have a really clear strategy of knowing yourself knowing what's required. I mean, I'll use strategies like, you know, that exists within peak sewn up. I just use it Malaj, generally. Tim's of my own personal routine to go to get up and before Mary dying my day. I've t- roles of his have, you know, my home parents will roll. And then I have my role at release you labs in both of them the quite high-performing. So I've got to go to be on Mike gonna be only game. In sundays. You just don't want to. But there's ways you can get yourself into into their head spice, gravity. He the perform or at least put your best foot forward and get done. What you need to do all bring any to the room or do the speech or present a workshop or whatever it is. And this sentence structures and procedures that it's just like. It's just like running a business was the preceding Jeff for your own person, and it works. Well for me. And I'm sure it works will with found as go through the program. I think Aaron's Oma thing I t's now, I've sort of stepdad often fist three programs. So I haven't seen the continued to grow since excessive at that. He has but old feedback on. He I think found of get out of it. Definitely show. And it's something that if he sort of business every person really should invest in themselves, whether it's through a structured program, like peak Basan around or other measures stiffly such a worthy investment to make in something that'll carry with you. No matter. What business you're on on? No matter. What business you you're in in different be applied to where ever you are? In Las absolutely end. It comes down to understanding yourself. So it's you know, there are times when I'm not saying you have to go and be these peak us in bait, you know, fake facade and have this, you know, sort of Assad that you're on your game all the time. But sometimes when you do need to be on your game majority of the time. How can you best optimize that? So that you your app foot is exactly what you needed to be that. You've got the right energy. You know yourself to know had a best manage Percival, you time your energy levels. Your mindset, what is your mind? So that you've got the right frame of mind to do what you need to do. And a lot of it does come from self evaluation. Understanding how you operate. What what to actually do on those days when when things aren't going? So will can you get back on track? So a whole entire day or wake isn't derailed because of one incident. In just to move on quickly. So that you can, you know, have rapid rights of learning and bad of progress because often in business a lot relies on you at the founder, and even if you're running a small business, not just for tech entrepreneurs startup founders is the business operates everywhere. Really? And if you're trying to sit culture as well within your company, you cannot be the boss Hussein we need to do this this this if you are not leading, by example, you will have Waymo people jump on board. If you're coming from a very often, T place and genuine place of believing everything that you say and showing them by being the person doing exactly what you are trying to achieve in terms of culture, you have people want to join you because it looks like a great place to be and it looks like a great state to be in and eats. It's just about I think, you know, it intends of individual happiness. If you're doing things that make you. Genuinely happy most people would would like to also day like that. So you know, you get everybody doing different. I'm not saying that culture needs to be all about happiness, but it's definitely setting the right tone from size. And I think we've that ups, you know, focused on hustling and twenty seven and working really hard around the clock, and you know, all work nice late night plays is just really unhealthy lifestyle and consent will not only the founder up finally. But also the team culture driven from dot each can lead to let a Bonet in the middle of just general unhappiness middle of families that high waiting for those people to come back, and they wanna know why they getting the bro conversions. And so I have no idea where I don't spend all the time at work said this so much Jeanette natives of communication, look you. So making sure that you don't get the burn out. And if you do that, that's okay too. How do you quickly recover? What's your recovery? Time look block. And what's what he? Need in recovery time? Yeah. How they bounce back off so setbacks, and I guess that's what it's always. You know, always going to have the motivation. Do not take it up every day and go at it. But it's you know, like I said before going through it even though you don't want to absolutely yet ended mic. It's just this isn't new none of this new at, you know, look at the sporting industry athletes. This is exactly how they train have dies minute training because they've performance. Ryan woman is found is a woman is and you've got to perform every day company. You gotta put out a lot of energy. You've got to be doing all the right things. But, you know, same with athletes, you have rest is you have recovery dies, and they dis way you training tensely the dice way, you ease off a bit. It has to be the similar sort of rhythm econ Boyce United buddy, keep going going going going and not recognize some of the lines. Sometimes physical self is is trying to tell you we need to look more to putting. As much if it and attention into building founders healthy lifestyles as well as we do full athletes because we focusing a unload on sport, and athletes, and that whole sector has a massive industry, supporting athletes, and they will be we need to do the same. He full on news, founders people in business in there will being as well, I love the parallels between sport, and and business or entrepreneurship is definitely a lot more parallels. The may give credit to especially with the concept of risk days and taking a little bit easier. That doesn't mean, you know, not doing anything at all. I guess, but definitely main sorta assess he hey can reach Hodge because it's impossible to give of yourself. Just just looking sport. Like, I said before you know, you can't give one hundred percent everyday physically you'd if needed have Tom Norris and restore so, but also that you know, there's that whole, you know, their it's this three similarities between sort of entrepreneurship music industry had. And. Athletes, so musicians go through the same loot of you know, you can put out a griped heat or grind albumin in the pressure to then released a second album is is is massive. And so the oddest grocery these same sort of mental loops mental issues impression of fulminate, and all that sort of stuff inside of music industry has a lot to support musicians in sectors will just like athletes, you know, if they work into the Olympics. They don't get him. What's left lag? After being an Olympian. What Korea's could they go into? How do we support the mentally full not innate? Tim's finally gave nuts in fire to Matthew achievement. But to the individual to change meet that target entrepreneur is what do we do to support them when they targets in business doesn't work. How can we catch them in the ecosystem Senate end up for failure engulf do a job that they're going to hide how else can we still plug them into the system to use all of that? Ising expertise that they've gained by running that company and help share the knowledge, you know, Sunday sun, many things that we could definitely develop and grow as massive support network pool. Entrepreneurship dutifully style to give give give as much support to the founder of startups small business owners in logic companies the support I need to be able to buy can deliver on their promises. Today. Consumers clients family yet. Very very, yeah. Look NS. Just don't shed learnings. I mean, even a what you I listen to one of your podcasts. Slowly, once before these one end you talking about that fatherless-ness that you had learned in year, put Cussing and one of them was that FIA just full hosting piping that person cancel said he United secretly because they fear of doing it. Now, I get the exact same feeling just before us fake every single time. I've been speaking for years now and the feeling never goes away. I almost hope that the paper cancel ring up say, we don't need you to speak old events being chanson because I never wanna do it a say, yes, the never wanna do it. But it's one of those things that, you know, the feeling you know, you have to push through, you know, it's gonna be fun. You love it at the end. But there's that feeling how do I cope with it? And it's just that shared learning. So you put it on this podcast, you guys throats, and that'll resonate with someone else. I try to talk about as much as often as I can because most people think because I see me staking up in confidence Baker. I am once I get going. But I am absolutely hiding it. The first few minutes every single time like sometimes, I'm like physically ill. I I get that Novus. It's ridiculous in any those shared learnings is exactly what the ecosystem made is key for people to share all different types of money's not always just about, you know, rising capital found a split sole term sheet. Little bits of tiny learnings in there as well. Because everybody has something to offer somebody else making that biggest thing to remember museum at what stage at whether you've gotta take company or a podcast. It doesn't really matter. You got something to teach someone else. Just because you didn't you've done it end. Someone else is gonna come across very similar problem. Eighty of to talk about it all year, which is one of the reasons wanted a started stories behind the grind. I mean, looking at the just the stories and challenges and advice shed through on the Instagram page as well as many business owners that have gone through in sheds struggles that have shared their what I've been through. So yeah, it's definitely the through sharing through storytelling is is the way we're going to help others remorse than not a line that the challenges that they're experiencing another nice Leishman, plenty of people who have who have gone through it and can help you go through absolutely interfacing, which goes back to early on in the homicide. With river city labs, how you know you've found who coming up against these what they same so insurmountable difficulties and all end into do is the range hat, and I'm sure most of the time if not all the time that someone who can who can pay chain in and help whole refer them on. Look, it's exactly it's exactly that end in terms of entrepreneurship, the Doxiadis owes you a lot of mental health issues and a lot to talk about mental mental wellness a lot around entrepreneurship in the reason, why us at three AM tribe, which is basically a series of events focused around having had conversations everything to do with being in business. Opening a founder and any everything to do with it getting involved in entrepreneurship, ease that shade learning Saif environment, you know, talking to Pia, but then also having sometimes people get out there and share this story just to room for the people who probably feel uncomfortable to connect to talk about it at that point in time. But I just wanna know somebody else is going through something similar and with mental health. It's it's a huge issue in entrepreneurship simply because of the pressures involved in everything I've just previously mentioned in terms of our. In culture, and all that sort of stuff. They sent me things that we can do in terms of getting a conversation started. He was sharing this stories having a safe place to go or a safe person to tilt to or an identified. Safest too often. It's just not knowing where to stop and people not thinking something bad enough yet. So they shouldn't need to talk about it. Should. I don't see fuck allegis. I'm not sure because he's this really bad. Do I actually had a more just having a bad day and often we don't have answers to any of these questions? So then we sort of just get stuck and do nothing. So the I am a three. I n drive is to host events in h most of the innovation hubs just having general conversation about pretty general topics. But it's definitely not Pacino's could people to come into a safe place enough question OB directed to professional help. If that's actually the positive I need to go down too. But it always starts off unit community more of a community minded event focused, and then it can definitely be referred onto professional. Helping more area they're leaving. So we've got the backup because we know professionals in this space, but we are definitely community connected and can identify people need to have a chat and to in the last six CS of probably being offered that many people's private stories about life in places hod spoke to their in you know, at Wilma king Cup of tea over there in a phone booth. Little, you know, making lunch or in in a cafe the just eq- around long enough, you tend to collect enough stories tonight. That is definitely a problem. And they has to be a way that we can we can solve this together. So that's what I do. We've trim tribe is to have that series of events that happened ultra spices. And also have a opportunity for spaces to train staff within the hubs in in the innovation sentenced to be mental health. I I trained says Aries Lee. Someone in there who's trained and identify could identify sitting triggers in personality traits that must be alarming valuables. And so needed in the I guess in the startup community. You know, a lot of sometimes it's just you know, let's go have a coffee, and you have a check from one or knowing what point you could ask someone to go and have a coffee. It'll be your whatever it is whatever's appropriate at that time in everybody's going to be different. It's just so many forms is no one answer. But it's lex look AfriC other. You know, if we will switch on our internal compass, you know, being intrusive in reading people really, well, we will have the ability. We just she actually will get cheap busy. And if you take notice of your nights, and the people around you you can give us sometimes United people are acting bit different tool in Otis Broughton. Bobby is I normally are in your extra stress stool, all of a sudden, I don't come in the mornings they used to come in the mornings on staying later on looking tired all all the opposite that can be hard to connecting. Meaning this staying around networking. Why longer not going home, which is Honey than that used to say, you all these little changes that you noticed in people? I think any change. If we just need to look out for each other. And checking we've every, you know, each other every now, and then and often people don't help because mocha funding for the helper in the posting getting helped to even ask and most people tend to not want to get involved in like, you know, tend to step back knuckle. I don't wanna get involved because in the nomin vol-, and you know, at that point in time you've got to look at the situation producing guy'd. Come. I think someone needs something here after put my needs a sodden and look out for them. All if you don't have the time in, you know, let somebody else identified some changes in someone, and, you know, would they on checking in with them often, you know, for us within Aaron team, we we can do much them Mba's if something's from raking night each of the node chicken with someone will someone who knows them closely to decide. Hey, I think I might need to go and grab a coffee and see if they're doing our K could be something as simple as that. And other times, they could be more. All and it's just a matter of sort of guidance each election and just being there as a friend. I is really important. Different different. Definitely get very important, and I guess to remove judgment from it all was well, you know, you're not going to be judged reached out in judge if you reach out to someone who you think might need a hand in some sometimes that's all people need is just a just to know that someone cares about them can be can be old somebody needs, but they need someone to reach out to them. I one of the painting is a lot of people that live alone them right now have patents families say we could be people saying in the most. And you know, we're the ones who could identify connected anything up the difference of have any idea close, or you know, they just don't have many people in the network. So it is it's just super important to just every now and then checking Nikki initiate up from your desk and end or say Hello to the person, the militia that you see every day. You don't actually usually connect with you know, could be the first to lie that I get that day. And it could mean everything because sometimes some people just really. We need a bit of human connection in even though they going to spice with his people. Everyday. A nice donor connect a nets seems fascinating. But it's very true. And just because they're around people doesn't mean they connecting. It's to really really different things. It's important to know that, but it comes down to just just a good human men's shove, it of compassion from the people. That's an empathy towards them. You know, the other human beings is such a necessity, especially in the sick that we need to look Africa for sure. A paid up fun question for the podcast, and it's a question. Locked Wasco guests. We'll go definition of the grind of the grind while crazy ass rollercoaster. That does not end look the gotta have been pulled up on this before I've said someone for like Ramona crazy roller. Carson I can unite PD annoys hop off on what you don't wanna help off. So it's I think the grind is is anything you make it. I mean creativity decries roller Karcher as long as you have lots of Tom on the flat bit, waking guys, log catch breath. Every now named before you did more lives, but the grind I think the ground is lost to be on him. Steed lot grind is. Just you. Laugh depends how now fast would apply it, Ohio, hod or complicated. Ohio. You wanna learn grow the president? A paid away people for more back and registered labs. Look thanking obviously people can find more about me on Instagram heater online legitimacy. Peter LS. Then Roussy labs is Rosie leads dot net. A website than on all social channels as rosy labs and on Twitter on illicit pita back the front said, I'm I I think second wonderful in charge of Newark to get in touch. If this is the first time, you've listened to the podcast. I appreciate you stopping by play. 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The Second Dialogue, by George Berkeley

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26:32 min | 5 months ago

The Second Dialogue, by George Berkeley

"Dialogues between high liz. And philo news. This is a libra. Vox recording all libra. Vox recordings are in the public domain for more information or to volunteer. Please visit libra. Vox dot org recording by geoffrey edwards. Three dialogues between highlights and feel the news in opposition to skeptics and atheists by george barclay the second dialogue heil. I beg your pardon philo news for not meeting you sooner all this morning. My head was so filled with our elite conversation that i had not leisure to think of the time of the day or indeed of anything else philo news. I am glad you were so intent upon it in hopes if there were any mistakes in your concessions or fallacies in my reasonings from them you will discover them to me and sure you i have done nothing ever since i saw you but search after mistakes and fallacies and with that view have minute. We examined the whole series of yesterday's discourse but all in vain for the notions it led me into upon review. Appear still more clear and evident. And the more i consider them the more irresistibly do they force. My assent fill. It is not this thing you assign that. They are genuine that they proceed from nature and our conformable to right reason. Truth and beauty are in this alike that the strictest survey sets them both to advantage while the false lester of error in disguise cannot endure being reviewed or to nearly inspected pile owned. There is a great deal in what you say nor can anyone be more entirely satisfied of the truth of those odd consequences. So long as i have in view the reasonings that to them but when these are out of my thoughts there seems on the other hand something so satisfactory so natural and intelligible in the modern way of explaining things that i profess. I know not how to reject it phil. I know not what we mean heil. I mean the way of accounting for our sensations or ideas phil. How is that how it is supposed. The soul makes her residents in some parts of the brain from which the nerves take their rise and our fence extended to all parts of the body and that out toward objects by the different impressions they make on the organs of sense communicate certain vibrational motions to the nurse and these being filled with spirits. Propagate them to the brain or seat of the soul which according to the various impressions or traces thereby made in the brain is variously affected with ideas. Fill and call you this explication of the manner whereby we are affected with ideas. How not fill a news. Have you anything to object against it phil i would. I know whether i rightly understand your hypothesis you make certain traces in the brain to be the causes or occasions of our ideas pre. Tell me whether by the brain. You mean any sensible thing how what else think you. I could mean feel sensible. Things are all immediately perceivable and those things which are immediately perceivable our ideas and these exists. Only in the mind this much you have if i mistake not long since agreed to heil i do not deny it feel the brain therefore you speak of being sensible thing exists only in the mind now i would fain know whether you're thinking reasonable to suppose that one idea or thing existing in the mind occasions all other ideas and if you think so pre how do you account for the origin of that primary idea or brain itself high. I do not explain the origin of our ideas by that brain which is perceivable to sense this being itself only combination of sensible ideas but by another which i imagine phil per knock things imagined as truly in the mind as things perceived heil. I must confess. They are fill. It comes therefore to the same thing and you have been all this while accounting for ideas by certain motions or impressions of the brain that is by some alterations in an idea by their sensible or imaginable. It matters not how. I begin to suspect my hypothesis. Fill besides spirits all that we know or conceive our own ideas when therefore you say. All ideas are occasioned by impressions in the brain. Do you conceive this brain or no if you do then you talk if ideas imprinted into ninety a causing not same idea which is absurd. If you do not conceive it you talk unintelligibly instead of forming reasonable hypothesis. Heil i now clearly see. It was a mere dream. There's nothing in it fill. You need not much concerned at it for after all this way of explaining things as you called it could never have satisfied any reasonable man. What connection is there between emotion in the nerves and the sensations of sound or color in the mind. Or how is it possible. These should be the effect of that. Hile but i could never think it had so little in it as now. It seems to have phil. Well then argue at link satisfied that no sensible things have a real existence and that you are in truth and erin skeptic heil it is too plain to be nine phil look are not the fields covered with a delightful verger. Is there not something in the woods groves in the rivers and clear springs that twos that delights the transports the sole at the prospect of the wide and deep ocean or some huge mountain whose top is lost in the clouds or of an old gloomy forest are not our minds filled with a pleasing horror. Even in rocks and desert's is there not an agreeable wildness. Sincere pleasure is it. To behold the natural beauties of the earth to preserve and renew relish for them is not the veil of night alternately drawn over her face and does she not changed her dress with the seasons. How aptly are the elements disposed. What variety and use in the meanest productions of nature. What delicacy what. Beauty what contrivance in animal and vegetable bodies how exquisitely are all things suited as well to their particular ends as to constitute opposite parts of the whole end while they mutually aid and support. Do they not also set off and illustrate each other raised. Now your thoughts from this ball of earth to all those glorious luminaries that adorn the high arch of heaven the motion end situation of the planets. Are they not admirable. For use and order we're those bracket miss called erratic close bracket globes once known to stray in their repeated journeys through the path list void. Do they not measure areas round the sun ever proportion to the times so fixed so immutable are the laws. By which the unseen author of nature actuates the universe vivid and radiant is the lester of the fixed stars how magnificent and rich that negligent profusion with which they appear to be scattered throughout the whole azure vault yet. If you take the telescope it brings into your site new host of stars that escape the naked eye here. They seem contiguous end minute but to a new review immense orbs of light at various distances far sunk in the abyss of space. You must call immagination to your aid. The feeble narrow sense cannot describe innumerable worlds revolving around the central fires and in those worlds. The energy of an all perfect mind displayed an endless forms but neither sense nor immagination are big enough to comprehend the boundless extent with all its glittering furniture though the laboring mind exert strain each power to its utmost reach. They're still stands out on grasped a surplus age immeasurable yet. All the vast bodies that compose this mighty frame how distant android however ever or by some secret mechanism some divine art enforce linked in a mutual dependence and intercourse with each other even with this earth which was almost slipped for my thoughts and lost in. The crowd of worlds is not the whole system immense beautiful glorious beyond expression and beyond thought what treatment than do those philosophers deserve who would deprive these noble end delightful scenes of all reality. How should those principles be entertained. That lead us to think all the visible beauty of the creation. A false imaginary glare to be playing. Can you expect this skepticism of yours. Well not be thought extravagantly absurd by all men have since heil other men may think as they please but for your part you have nothing to reproach me with my comfort is you are as much a skeptic as i am fill their highly i must beg leave to differ from you. What have you all along agreed to the premises. And do you now deny the conclusion and leave me to maintain those paradoxes by myself. Which you led me into. This surely is not fair phil. I deny that i agreed with you. Those notions that led to skepticism. You indeed said the reality of sensible. Things consisted in an absolute existence out of the minds of spirits or distinct from there being perceived and pursuant to this notion of reality. You are obliged to deny sensible things any real existence that is according to your own definition. You profess yourself a skeptic. But i neither said nor thought the reality of sensible things was to be defined after that manner to me. It is evident. For the reasons you allow of the tinsel things cannot exist otherwise then in a mind or spirit whence i conclude not that they have no real existence but that seeing they depend not on my thought and have all existence distinct from being perceived by me. There must be some other mind wearing. They exist sure. Therefore as the sensible world really exists so sure is there an infinite omnipresent spirit contains and supports it. Heil what this is. No more than i. All christians hold knee and all others. Who believe there is a god that he knows and comprehends. All things phil. Hi but here lies. The difference men commonly believed that all things are known or perceived by god because they believe the being of god whereas i on the other side immediately necessarily conclude the being of god because all sensible things must be perceived by him heil but so long as we all believe the same thing. What matter is it how we come by that belief. Fill but neither do we agree. In the same opinion for philosophers though they acknowledge all corporeal beings to be perceived by god they attributed to them an absolute subsistence distinct from there being perceived by any mind. Whatever which i do not besides is there. No difference between saying there is a god therefore he perceives. All things and saying sensible things do really exist and if they really exist they are necessarily perceived by an infinite mind therefore there is an infinite mind or god this furnishes you with a direct and immediate demonstration most evident principle of the being of god defines end philosophers had proved beyond all controversy from the beauty and usefulness of the several parts of the creation that it was the workmanship of god but that setting aside all help astronomy and natural philosophy all contemplation of the contrivance order and adjustment of things an infinite mind should be necessarily in from the existence of the sensible world is an advantage to them only who have made this easy reflection that the sensible world is that which we perceive by are several senses and that nothing is perceived by the senses beside ideas and that no idea or archetype of an idea can exist otherwise than in the mind you may now without any laborious search into the scientists without any settled of reason where tedious length of discourse oppose and baffled. The most strenuous advocate for atheism. Those miserable refuges whether in an internal succession of unthinking causes and effects or in a fortuitous concourse of atoms those wild imaginations of anini hobbes and spinoza in a word the whole system of atheism is it not entirely overthrown by the single reflection on the repugnancy included interposing the whole or any part even the most rude and shapeless of the visible world to exist with a mind anyone if those abitur impact but look into his own thoughts and they're trying if he can conceive how so much as a rock a desert a chaos or confused jumble of atoms. How anything at all either sensible or imaginable can exist independent of mind and he need go no farther to be convinced of his folly. Can anything be fair. Then to put a dispute on such an issue and leave it to a man himself to see if he can conceive even thought what he holds to be true in fact end from a notional to allow it a real existence. Heil it cannot be denied. There's something highly serviceable to religion in what you advance. But do you not think it. Looks very like notion entertained by some eminent moderns of seeing all things in god phil i would gladly no that opinion pre. Explain it to me how they conceive that the soul being immaterial is incapable of being united with material things so as to perceive them in themselves but that she perceives them by her union with the substance of god which being spiritual is therefore purely or capable of being the immediate object of spirits thought besides the divine essence contains in it. Perfection correspondent each created being. And which are for that reason. Proper to exhibit or represent them to the mind phil. I do not understand how our ideas which are things altogether passive inert can be the essence or any part bracket or like any part close bracket of the essence or substance of god who is an impassive indivisible pure active being many more difficulties and objections there are which occur at first view against this hypothesis. But i shall only add that it is liable to all the absurdities of the common hypothesis in making a created world exists otherwise than in the mind of a spirit besides all which it has this peculiar to itself that it makes that material world served no purpose and if it passes for a good argument against other hypotheses in the sciences that they supposed nature or the divine wisdom to make something in vain or do that by tedious roundabout methods which might have been performed a much more easy and compendious way. Which are we think of that hypothesis which supposed the whole world made in vain kyle but what say you are not to of opinion that we see all things in god if i mistake not what you advance comes near it. Fill few men think yet. All have opinions hints. Men's opinions are superficial and confused. It is nothing strange. That tenants which in themselves are ever so different should nevertheless be confounded with each other. Those who did not consider them. Actually i shall not therefore be surprised if some minaj that i run into the enthusiasm of malebranche in truth i am very remote from it. He builds on the most abstract general ideas which i entirely disclaim he asserts an absolute external world which i deny he maintains that we are deceived by our senses and no not the real nature's or the true forms and figures of extended beings of all which i hold the direct contrary so that upon the whole there's no principles more fundamentally opposite than his and mine. It must be owned. That i entirely agree with what the holy scripture saith quote that in god we live and move and have our being in quote but that we see things in his essence after the manner above set forth. I am far from believing. Take here in brief my meaning. It is evident that the things i perceive are my own ideas and that no idea can exist unless it being a mind nor is it less plane that these ideas or things by me perceived themselves or their archetypes exist independently of my mind since i know myself not to be their author it being out of my power to determine pleasure what particular ideas i shall be affected with upon opening my eyes or us they must therefore exist in some other mind. Who's is they should be exhibited to me the things i say immediately perceived our ideas or sensations call them which you will but how can any idea or sensation exist in or be produced by anything but a mind or spirit. This indeed is inconceivable and to assert that which is inconceivable is talk nonsense. Is it not high without doubt phil but on the other hand in it's very conceivable that they should exist in nba produced by spirit since this is no more than i daily experience in myself inasmuch as i perceive numberless ideas and by an act of my will conform a great variety of them and raise them up in my imagination. Though it must be confessed. These creatures of the fancy are not altogether so distinct so strong vivid and permanent as those preceded by my senses which latter are called. Read things from all which i conclude. There is a mind which affects me every moment with all the sensible impressions i perceive and from the variety order and manner of these i conclude the author of them to be wise powerful and good beyond comprehension market. Well i do not say. I see things. By perceiving that which represents them in the intelligible substance of god this. I did not understand but i say things by me. Perceived are known by the understanding and produced by the wheel of an infinite spirit all this most plane and evident. Is there any more in it than what a little observation in our own minds and that which passed in them not only enable us to conceive but obliges us to acknowledge heil. I think i understand you very clearly and own the proof you give of. Data seems no less evident than it is surprising but allowing the god is the supreme and universal cause of all things yet either not be still a third nature besides spirits and ideas maybe not admit a subordinate and limited. Cause of our ideas in a word may they're not for all that be matter phil. How often must inculcates the same thing. You allow things immediately. Perceived by sense to exist nowhere without the mind but there's nothing perceived by saints which is not perceived immediately. Therefore there's nothing sensible that exists without the mind the matter therefore which you still insist on. Its something intelligible. I suppose something that may be discovered by reason and not by sense. Hal you are in the right phil pray. Let me know what reasoning your belief of matter is grounded on and what this matter is in your presence of it how i find myself affected with various ideas where of i am not the 'cause neither are they the cause of themselves or of one another or capable of assisting by themselves as being altogether inactive fleeting dependent beings they have therefore some 'cause distinct from me and them of which pretend to know more than that. It is the cause of my ideas this thing. Whatever it be. I call matter phil tell me highness. Hath everyone liberty to change the current proper signification attached to a common naming any language for example. Suppose a traveler should tell you that in a certain countrymen pass unhurt through the fire and upon explaining himself you found he meant by the word fire which others call water or if he should assert that there are trees that walk upon two legs meaning men by the term trees. Would you think this reasonable hell. No i should think it very absurd. Common custom is the standard of propriety in language and for any man to affect speaking improperly is to pervert the use of speech and can never served to a better purpose than to protract n multiply disputes where there is no difference. In opinion. fill in does not matter. In the common current expectation of the word signifying and extended solid movable unthinking in active substance how it does fill and had it not been made evident that no such substance can possibly exist and though it should be allowed to exist it how can not which is inactive because or that which is unthinking because of thought you may indeed if you please next to the word matter a contrary meaning to what is vulgar lee received and tell me you understand by it. An extended thinking active being which is the cause of our ideas. But what else is this to play with words and into the very fault you just now condemned we so much reason i do by no means find fault with your reasoning inland to collect it 'cause from phenomena but i denied that the 'cause deduce by reason can properly be termed matter hile there is indeed something in what you say but i am afraid you do not thoroughly comprehend meaning i would by no means thought to deny that god or an infinite spirit is the supreme cause of all things all i contend for is that subordinate to the supreme agent. There is a cause of a limited and inferior nature which concurs in the production of our ideas not by any act of will or spiritual efficiency but by that kind of action which belongs to matter. These motion phil. I find you are at every. Turn relapsing into your old exploded. Conceit of a movable and consequently and extended substance existing without the mind. What have you already forgotten. You were convinced or are you willing. I should repeat what has been said on that head in intrusive. This is not fair dealing in you still to suppose the being of that which you have so often acknowledged to have no being but not to insist further on what has been so largely handled. I ask whether all your ideas are not perfectly passive and inert including nothing of action in them high. They are fill and are sensible qualities. Anything else but ideas heil. How have acknowledged that they are not feel. But it's not motion a sensible quality tile. It is phil. Consequently it is no action. Heil i agree with you and indeed is very plain. When i stir my finger it remains passive but my will which produce the motion is active phil. Now i desire to know in the first place whether motion being allowed to be no action you can conceive any action besides volition and in the second place whether to say something and conceived nothing not to talk nonsense. And lastly whether having considered the premises you not perceive that this suppose any efficient or active cause of our ideas other than spirit is highly absurd and unreasonable heil Give up the point entirely but the matter may not be a cause. Yet what hinders. It's being instrument subservient to the supreme agent in the production of our ideas. Fill an instrument. Say you pretty. What may be the figure springs wheels and motions of that instrument. Hal pretend to determine. Herman nothing of both. The substance ended qualities being entirely. Unknown to me. Phil what you are then. It is made up of unknown parts that it has unknown motions and an unknown shape. Heil i do not believe that. It has any figure or motion at all being already convinced that no sensible qualities can exist in an unperceived substance. fill but what notion. Is it possible to frame of an instrument for of all sensible qualities even extension itself. How i do not pretend to have any notion of it. Fill and what reason have you to think this unknown this inconceivable somewhat death exist is it that you imagine god can act as well without it or the defined by experienced use of some such thing when you ideas in your own. Mind how you're always teasing me for reasons of my belief. Pray what reasons have you not to believe it fill. It is to me a sufficient reason not to believe the existence of anything. If i see no reason for believing it but not to insist on reasons for believing you will not so much as let me know what it is you would have me believe since you say you have no manner of notion of it after all that mean. Treat you to consider whether it'd be like a philosopher or even like a man of commonsense to pretend to believe you know not what and do you know not why.

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