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So stay tuned for that. Coming up, we're gonna have Rob Mahoney talking after the two Thursday night TNT NBA games. We're gonna react to basically everything we've seen for the last three days. Just things that have jumped out to us. And then Peter Schrager is gonna come on and talk about the NFL. Do we have a best team? What are we noticing through seven weeks? What can we expect in week eight that will lead to million dollar picks? And that is today's podcast. Let's bring in our friends from Pearl Jam. Here we go. All right, we're taping this. It's almost 10 o 'clock on Thursday night, Pacific time. Rob Mahoney is here from The Ringer NBA and showing TheRinger .com. We stayed up late because these were two good games. We've had three straight days of very entertaining basketball and we gotta start with the biggest story. Kelly Oubre in the Sixers. What a signing that was, he looks great. No, we just watched LeBron versus the Suns. LeBron's 29 minute limit I think is out the window. He played the whole fourth quarter. And then made the two big head down just going to the basket plays at the end. But biggest thing that's jumped out to you in the last three days is what? Lakers wise or just in general? In general. I think a lot of these teams that we expect to be really good clearly have some assembly required. And the Lakers are one of those teams. I think we saw that from the Bucks and the Sixers tonight too. We're seeing it certainly with the first days of the Victor Webinama experience. Everyone is getting up to speed into their rhythms, trying to understand how all these new pieces fit together. Not revelatory for the opening days of the season to feel that way, but I think even some of the stuff that personally I thought was going to be seamless, like the Giannis, Dame pick and roll, there's some kinks in it that they're going to have to figure out over time. Lakers I thought were the one that surprised me on that one because I thought they were one of the teams that were going to have the advantage coming in. You think about last year's team compared to this year's team. It doesn't seem like Reeves is involved enough either game that, I don't want to say he's an afterthought, but it just felt like he was more in the mix in the playoffs last year. And I liked what Schroeder did for them last year and he was good on Toronto last night and really fit in with what they did. So they're going to have to figure out that Vincent D 'Lo thing. Wood was playing crunch time, which I was really surprised. Did you think we'd be getting this much Christian Wood? I thought that was like a flyer for them. Guarding Kevin Durant on some possessions, wild stuff. But if nothing else, we can trust that when Christian Wood is out there, he will be Christian Wood. In these uncertain times, we can always fall back on that. He certainly had his fair share of like black hole kind of possessions in this game, but he also does play into the Lakers advantages in terms of their length, right? Their size against a team like Phoenix, they're just going to be able to out muscle, get to rebounds, get to balls that they can't get to. So that part of it paid off, I thought in terms of just like having another big out there and certainly the Anthony Davis experiment continues as far as like, do you want more size with him? Do you want to play small with him? There's always that internal question because he seems a little reluctant to do it on a full -time basis, but I'm sure Christian Wood's going to get his shots. I mean, clearly Jackson Hayes is going to get some shots in the rotation to be a meaningful part of the Lakers, the mix there for the Lakers. So I don't know. I think Darvin Ham has a lot of questions to figure out, including the one you listed with Austin Reeves, which is like, who has the ball? Who's initiating for us? Who is involved on a possession to possession basis? Because this game, this was a lot of D 'Angelo Russell, and it was a lot of a better version of D 'Angelo Russell than maybe we saw the other night, but it still feels like a lot. 33 minutes for him tonight. Yeah, Reeves, seven shots, one assist. And I thought all of his usage stuff was going to go up, but it seems like it drifted Russell's way. The other thing I was surprised, I thought Rui was going to be a bigger part of this team. I only played 12 minutes, but I haven't changed my thought on them. They're just such a big, problematic team. And if you're the Suns and you're feeling good after that Warriors game, right? And the Warriors, no Draymond, they were able to overpower them a little on the boards. The two centers had 22. And then tonight you see the flip side of the use of Nurkic experience, where it's like, you're getting zero room protection and you're getting somebody who's just going to be confused anytime somebody is coming off a pick. Basically Lebron at the end of the game just said, I'm going to go attack that guy. Yeah, I'm going to go attack that guy right there. Durant was better tonight, at least for the first three quarters that he looked on Tuesday night. It was really cool just seeing those guys on a basketball court after all these years. As I get older, I'm older than you, but just think like, man, this goes way back now. We're talking mid 2000s was the first time these two guys played basketball against each other and it's still going on. So that was in a cool way kind of lingering over this game. I was enjoying that one. How do you think Durant looks in terms of being a 35 year old guy who they gave up three first rounders and two swaps and Mikhail Bridges and Cam Johnson for? It feels like a slightly loaded question. Yeah. He's looked good. And certainly as you said, the first three quarters of this game looked more than good enough. I think the problem was just like this version of the Suns like felt very James Harden is hurt and Kyrie Irving won't get the shot. Nets, you know, just like Kevin Durant and a bunch of like - I blocked that net out of my mind. I think a lot of us have tried to, but you know, him with a lot of like serviceable workaday role players can get you so far. But as you saw on this one, against a really good defensive team like the Lakers in the fourth quarter, they can just shut the water off. And this is where, you know, I'm nervous about the Suns for a variety of reasons. I think if it was just the defense or just the depth or just the injury risk of their core guys, I would feel better. But it's all of the above all the time. And that's going to put Durant in some games like this one. It's going to put Yusef Nurkic in positions like this one where all of a sudden he's triggering your offense because you don't really have a default point guard out there. And sometimes the value of having a point guard in your rotation, I don't think it's really going to matter when Beal and Booker and Durant are playing together. Those guys can all handle and play make and do everything they need to do. But in a game like this, where two of those guys are out, sometimes it helps to just be able to run some offense that doesn't have to involve Kevin Durant pounding the rock through pick and roll. Yeah, 28 shots for him today. 13 including, and then 13 free throws. He played 39 minutes and was also playing the five in stretches. And this is game two. They had to basically try to unlock 2007 Texas Longhorns Durant. That's the last guy I want to be throwing miles on, maybe in the entire league other than LeBron. Cause he's, you know. That's going to be true for Booker and Beal too, right? Like when any of these guys are out, those three, whoever's left is going to have to play huge minutes or else you get into Grayson Allen and Drew Eubanks are playing like a massive role in your rotation. And I like those guys. I like Drew Eubanks. Maybe not like tamper and lose a second round pick like Drew Eubanks, like some teams do, but. I'd lose 50K for him. Maybe not a second round pick. It's a little steep. Yeah. The other game, Milwaukee Philly. So no Harden. I wish there was a way to just mute the entire Harden story of all coverage for it. Anything online, anything on Twitter, all conversations. I just don't want to hear it anymore. And I don't think he has any interest in playing. And I just think, just tell us when he gets traded. Their best chance now, now that the, especially the Clippers last night looked great.
"angelo russell" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Can happen with that team. Listen, I wouldn't predict them winning the west. I wouldn't predict a deep playoff run, but they are, I think, indisputably, demonstrably, objectively, in a better position to make a playoff run, now than they were before the trade deadline. As you know, have been as critical of rob palinka as anybody and was critical of the Lakers for sitting on those picks as long as they did. I think there were deals they could have made sooner, right? Like, they should have moved off Westbrook last summer, like they finally cut the cord, and now they're, of course, you know, employing the usual whisper campaign of there were all these problems and things were even worse than anybody believed. That's probably true, but if it is true, well, that's on you then for not resolving the situation sooner. Maybe it's on Westbrook also for whatever was going on in the locker room and with the way he comported himself on the court. That's all fair. And I'm certainly not about to start defending Westbrook in the way he played in LA or the way he fit or did not fit. But everybody could see that this was not working before. So I'm still going to say Lakers. You should have moved apic or two or whatever it took to offload Westbrook last summer. And if you could have gotten the pacer package of healed and Turner then, then you should have done it then. But I'm not going to say that rob pelinka and the liquor for an officer vindicated by the trade deadline, but they atoned fairly well to trade deadline by getting the players they did. D'angelo Russell and Vanderbilt and Beasley, even Obama, like you upgraded your rotation. Every single one of those guys can play minutes immediately and in some of those cases start ahead of guys who were starting before, who should not have been NBA starters. Like we did the exercise earlier this season. The problem with the Lakers was outside of LeBron and Anthony Davis, they would start three guys every night who maybe one of them would be a starter somewhere else. Two would be deep bench guys. And on some teams, none of their other three starters would have started for any other decent team in the NBA, a team with playoff hopes. So they took guys who should not have been starters and replaced them with actual starting caliber players. And as a domino effect, now have guys coming off the bench who are better as 6, 7 to 8th 9th men as opposed to being the third fourth 5th men or whatever they were or 5th 6. So they have upgraded. Again, scant time left to get everybody kind of in sync with each other. D'angelo Russell, not a big fan, but he's talented and he can score and he's having a really efficient season. I think it'll be great playing off LeBron. But you know, I think the biggest concern right now is that LeBron's missed the last couple of games since he got the record with an ongoing foot injury that that is now being said to be something that might bother him the rest of the season. I know he's going to, but I hope he doesn't play the All-Star Game. No, I was going to say, I was about to say, I think we're going to get one of those like 5 minute cameos, right? Like he's going to start the game. He's going to play a little bit, they're going to honor him again, they're going to do a ceremony about the record I believe during all star weekend. But yeah, LeBron needs to just take most of the weekend off. And I'm sure he will. But that's got to be their biggest concern now. But I'm with you, Chris. LeBron LeBron James healthy, Anthony Davis healthy, and those are big ifs for both of them. Plus this roster, if they had had this roster from day one, they wouldn't be in the situation they're in now. They would be much more solidly in the mix than the playoff field. We wouldn't be talking about are they going to be able to make the play and then make the playoffs? This is a significantly better group that, frankly, they should have had from day one. They play Wednesday this week. And then they're not back in a game until next Thursday. That is a full 8 days to heal. And as you said, LeBron, whether he plays in the game or not. He's going to take it easy. And nobody knows how to take care of their body better than LeBron James. So he'll spend all star weekend doing the things he needs to do to get that foot as healthy as it can be. They're going to be a problem. I'm telling you, a big, big, big, big problem. If LeBron AD can stay on the floor, the second half of the season. They're going to make the playoffs. Look at the teams above them. Portland's above them. That's not going anywhere. Utah just dismantle what was left of its team. Oklahoma City is like soft tanking right now. You trade away micro Scotland with apologies to some of my good friends in Oklahoma City, you know, that's your trade away a guy that was playing a little bit. So I don't think they want to make the playoffs. I guess I'll put it that way. They don't want to be in the postseason. And then you look above them and it's like golden states there, but as soon as there, the pelicans are in a freefall right now, like I'm comfortable saying this Lakers team is going to make the playoffs or at the very least be in the play in and should make the playoffs. And if they do, I don't know who, look, I look at the top Denver, Memphis, Sacramento, Dallas. That's your top four right now, Howard. Are you picking all four of those teams to beat the Lakers? Like the nuggets you probably would because the nuggets have been the best team in the Western Conference for a while. But Memphis is weird, you know? They go and get Luke canard. We'll see what happens if he addresses their three point shooting issues or if his defensive deficiencies keep him off the floor. Sacramento, great story, but you know, I'm not picking Fox and sabonis against the LeBron AD. That's for sure. And then Dallas, we just talked about like vulnerable in a lot of different ways. The field is open, baby. It's wide open Howard. The bottom four, the bottom four might actually have to be better than the top four, like Phoenix is in there. The clippers, the Lakers. Like, can you imagine that? Well, I expect Phoenix will be in the top four by the time all is said and done. Like they probably displaced the Mavericks, don't they? Probably. And I even looked at strength of schedule for the rest of the season or anything else. But if Durant gets Lakers, by the way, strength of schedule is bottom third. It's like 24th right now. And that may change because I think they've got a couple of games of the suns and those games become exponentially tougher. Maybe we'll maybe we'll finally get a KD versus LeBron game. It's been like 6 years since one of them. Look, if the suns do get Katie, shortly after all star, right? And if this is a seamless as we expect it should be. And if they're depth issues aren't too bad, they get guys off the buyer market. The sun should be topped for. That pushes Dallas to 5, clippers are now 6th. Like that, that group is probably the group. That is probably the top 6, right? Denver Memphis sack Dallas Phoenix clippers. That 6 in some order is probably not changing. Zion, we just heard from David Griffin, pelicans, president, Zions out for at least a few more weeks beyond the all star break. So that's bad. So I thought there was gonna be a pelican second half revival and I'm pretty skeptical of that right now. The Timberwolves I don't trust at all. The warriors will see, I'll never rule them out, but you're right. Then we're to tenth. That's the thunder. The Lakers right now just have to pass the blazers jazz and thunder and that puts them into play in. That's should be automatic. And then it's like, okay, do they come out of the plan? Now you're a 7th or 8th seed and your first round matchup is either at the moment, Denver or Memphis. Maybe by all of a sudden done, maybe it's Denver and Phoenix at the top. Yeah, look, the favorites will be the favorites for a reason. The Lakers will be big underdogs, but again, if LeBron and Anthony Davis are healthy, with competent supporting cast around them, and now they have some confidence around them. I don't think those teams want to face him. I really don't. I really don't. And, you know, if they were fortunate enough to somehow draw a Dallas or something in the first round, I'd put my money on the Lakers. But that's not going to happen because the Lakers were probably 7th or 8th in Dallas is not going to be first or second. No, no, they're not. But it could make for a wild Western Conference playoff bracket. How it all ultimately shakes out. Last thing for you Howard, dust is settled, we know what these teams are, most of the bio guys are earmarked for whatever teams are going to go to. Danny Green, to Cleveland. We mentioned turns Ross, he's going to go to Phoenix, maverick going to get a guy or two. Right now, who's your favorite? Not just to win the Western Conference, but the whole thing.
"angelo russell" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Move. I like the Vanderbilt piece, but I didn't like the Russell, I guess he's an expiring rob. I know you talked about this yesterday in the ringer MBA. Priscilla, what was your take? I think you're not as much of a Russell fan as I can't wait. It's not often that two of my least favorite players in my entire NBA viewing history get traded for each other. And that's where I'm at. I'm sorry. I'm unapologetic about it. I've heard all the arguments, you know, the same people that talk to themselves in the west portrayed now to tell me that the D'angelo Russell trade is good. All right, good. Oh, your dick, curmudgeon, and all this stuff. I'm like, look, I try to tell the truth, man. I tried to try to tell the truth. And not Will Smith in it here, but you can look at the counting stats. Do you have to throw Russell has been on fire for two months? Yeah. But if you can't see the 5 or 6 times, we just decide, I don't feel like it back on defense now. Matt, especially when you're in the back, you know, sometimes it's not always your fault because you take the shot, the other guy should get back. And then he's gonna have like four or 5 passes, you're like, who the fuck are you passing it to? What are you doing? And when the beginning with D'angelo Russell, this is why I talked about him being my least favorite guy that actually plays. Like I said worse, I should say damaging because he is talented enough to be like, I got this. Because he's a really good passer at times. He actually is a really good shooter. He's got that kind of dribble that, you know, he can get where he needs to go. He sort of lulls you to sleep and then it's like quick out of nowhere, but there's so many other times where you're watching him going, what are you doing? Like when they bought in Trey lyles for Sacramento and Gobert was trying to figure out like what they were going to do in that Sacramento loss. And there were these switches that were happening. To answer Russell just doesn't he just can't be bothered. And it was pretty clear I think Finch probably would have liked to play other guys. So that goes into my evaluation of the player. So the other part of it is that also they're willingness to trade him after he's played well for two months. It's like watching somebody sell a stock that went slightly up. No, it's like my quarterback thing. Like when I have a quarterback, I'm like, I'm not sure about that. And then the team gets rid of them. I'm like, well, you know, what are we doing? With Russell, getting Westbrook out is a small victory with Russell, he can shoot technically better than Westbrook. I think to be fair to Westbrook, you know, Westbrook at the gates of heaven isn't going to be deferential to anyone. Yeah. I would imagine maybe there's a part of Deangelo Russell where he's not in charge of everything, which I think is another reason why they wanted to get him out of Minnesota where you can't really do that with LeBron. So yeah, maybe it's not lateral because you're getting something out that was so negative, but I don't know. I appreciate what the Lakers did here. We made fun of their three through ten, their four through ten for months at the beginning of the year. They've added Rui. They've added Vanderbilt who we all love. Russell at least can shoot. But there's going to be all the same mistakes. He's not going to all of a sudden stop making all of his mistakes. They're so costly to the outcomes of games that are so far beyond always 45% from three this month. I don't give a shit. Is he locked in defensively? Is he paying attention? Does he care? Does he care about his teammates? Is he communicating with his teammates? He doesn't do that stuff enough. That's why he loses all the time. So I don't know. None of that's going to be fixed overnight. He's going to have a big day. He's going to get 30 8 in a game and hit a million threes and everybody's going to be like, this is fucking awesome. I think the biggest thing with the Lakers thing is they improved what was a disastrous group of players outside of it. The Rui part, you know, vando Beasley, who I think is a little hit or miss, but this is how bad it was. You know, you're not playing with these huge minutes. Who is that white guy from the first ten games that summer league guy? Matt Ryan? Yeah, Matt Ryan. He's not even Malik Beasley in the matrix. And I like Reeves. I think Reeves is really good. So he'll find a way to fit into all this stuff. The mo thing, the Lakers fans haven't watched him play. So I'm not going to argue with him about it. But we don't know, like that top four protected now to Utah. It may mean nothing. And it's like, hey, they had a little bit of a playoff run, but it didn't guarantee and that's what that pick. That's why with all of these moving pieces, I kind of give him credit, but I also think, okay, but you have may have moved an asset for years from now, which could haunt you, maybe not. Who knows? For what? For what? What did it guarantee you? Did it guarantee you guarantee you a home playing game?
Chiefs' Mahomes says ankle will be ready for Super Bowl
"I'm Bruce Morton. Good news for the chiefs and their fans. Patrick Mahomes says he's, quote, definitely in a better spot when it comes to his ailing right ankle than he was for the AFC championship game as the all pro quarterback proposed to lead Kansas City against Philadelphia in the Super Bowl. Pro basketball, the swapping has begun leading up to Thursday's trading deadline with the Lakers at the center of a three team deal. They sent Russell Westbrook to the jazz and got D'angelo Russell from the Timberwolves. Speaking of Los Angeles, newly acquired Kyrie Irving made his debut with the Mavericks Wednesday night in LA. He scored a team high 24 as
"angelo russell" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"Job it up. Let's go to a team that's frankly not been very fun. And the vibes have been incredibly sus. Incredibly dark vibes surrounding this team. We gotta talk about the Minnesota Timberwolves. They have just been not very good. They lost by double digits to a Phoenix team the other night. That was missing both cam Johnson and Chris Paul. Gave up a 129 points. To a team without two of their starters, there are 5 and 7 now, Anthony Edwards, you know, there's the clip going around of him standing over with his hands on his hips while the team starting to play. That's never good. I'm gonna pull up their net rating here in a second. There's 16th in the league minus one net rating, you know what's bad as you talk about net rating because I had to keep using the caveat that I know they haven't looked good, but their defensive rating is still 9th in the league. I think over the course of either two or three games, they fell from 9th to 17th in defense. Oof. Yeah. Like what you said with guys from the other teams that were missing. So it's not a good look at all. If you've got Gobert anchoring your defense and you're that bad, defensively. Well, that's really the thing is I think a lot of people were expecting them to be this great regular season team and we'll see what happens in the postseason. And a lot of that was Gobert. I wouldn't say there was hype, but I think people had so much respect for the way he could lift the floor of a team defensively that they were expecting great things. They're starting lineup, which is Gobert, D'angelo Russell, Carl towns, Edwards and McDaniels, in 99.7 offensive rating, negative 6.2 net rating -6.2 net ratings. Anderson, Kyle Anderson, Russell, towns, Edwards McDaniels, -10.8 net rating. Their bench has been great the McLaughlin nazare Anthony Edward lineup has played 16 minutes together and has a 61 net. So small sample size honestly out of the starting lineup, they're starting lineup is played a 120 minutes more than any other lineup, but it's not been good. So what have you made of the wolf so far do you feel like they can turn it around? I mean, I expect them to be a little bit better, but oh, curious what you think. I'll let you go first. The defense has looked very much like they're still trying to figure stuff out, particularly when towns and Gobert there.
"angelo russell" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Angeles Lakers when they had swapped him for D'angelo Russell and the Lakers didn't keep him. That's right. Oh, brutal. Then he went to Milwaukee's Ben Milwaukee ever since and is worth every nickel to the bucks right now. He's not the 20 point per game store. We saw, he's up to 20 point game store. We saw in Brooklyn, but he's every bit as effective. Right now he's leading the NBA in blocks. He's actually two and a half blocks per game right now from Milwaukee. So remarkable turn for brook Lopez, who's been incredibly important to that team's success. All right, let's talk about the Cleveland Cavaliers, who right now are 8 and two after the loss to the clippers on Monday. It was their first loss since October 19th. They have the NBA's fourth best offense. They've got, as you alluded to earlier, the number two defense, Donovan Mitchell is averaging 31 points per game. Darius Garland is averaging 19. Kevin Love is once again playing really well in this 6th man role. Howard, it feels like before the season, we talked about the Cavs as being maybe a year or two away from being a true contender. This was the year they took a step forward, maybe they went to the second round of the playoffs, but they were a year away from reaching true contender status. As you look at this team right now, have they reached true contender status and how much longer do we have to watch until we kind of realize that they might be there. Yeah, I mean, look, as with everything else, I'm going to use qualifiers when we're this early in the season, right? I don't want to get carried away. And that's not to throw cold water with the cash you're doing because I think my gut is that this is all legit and sustainable. But we are only ten games into an 82 game season. So I don't want to get too carried away because there are always going to be some things to do with schedule to do with injuries.
"angelo russell" Discussed on Open Floor: SI's NBA Show
"Yeah, I think if the Lakers had LeBron KD and Kyrie, I mean, their defensive issues are still their defensive issues. In my opinion and would probably be exacerbated because they don't have Anthony Davis anymore. But I'm just like, let's not overthink this. We can have LeBron and Kevin Durant on the same team. What are we doing? Let's just yeah. You do our options. A hundred times out of a hundred. Yeah. It'd be a cool thought. It'd be a fantastic thought if it could happen. I just, I don't see any way that it would. Let's close with this email from Scarlett, who writes high pod and crew. As a longtime fan of the pod and the Timberwolves, let me start with a few questions. Why is everyone sleeping on the Timberwolves? Did nobody watch them last year or the past few years when cat played like a modern four with Jared Vanderbilt Taj Gibson gorge, or Kevin Garnett out there? Did nobody watch the jazz last year or the past few years where Rudy played with a lot of traffic cones? Did nobody watch the finals? Were Robert Williams and draymond green didn't have to be guarded at the three point line yet. Both affected the game enough to play major minutes. 5 out basketball is all fine and good, but it didn't make the finals last year. One of the most common lineups that jazz had over recent seasons was the following. Mike Conley, Donovan Mitchell Joe ingles, boyan bogdanovic, Rudy Gobert. Place that against with the wolves we'll be doing barring a delo trade. D'angelo Russell, Anthony Edwards, Jada McDaniels, Carl Anthony towns, Rudy Gobert. The wolves will have upgraded every position in the starting lineup over what is the best 5 man group that jazz have ever put around Gobert. What other team in the west can seriously even dream to have three all stars before Katie gets his wish to be on the suns? Best regards scarlet. Thank you, Scarlett. Great email. Very good email. We talked a little bit about this in our last show, Rohan and I did. I like the wolves. I like their team, I think that positive and bullish about cat and Rudy together in the front court. I think that they'll be very good. The criticism first of all, I should say just to address one thing like, I think it's valid to wonder if that at the four defensively is going to be a nightmare or not. Yes, he has played at the four. It is career. And if you look at the data, Minnesota's defense when he's at the forest has been atrocious. Every single season. So yes, we have seen that. We do remember understood who was around Rudy and all that. Again, I'm high on this. I would not be shocked if they are the third best record in the Western Conference next season. I want to see what happens in the playoffs. I think they'll be good. I don't think they're a championship contender necessarily.
"angelo russell" Discussed on The Crossover NBA Show with Chris Mannix
"Not great, but better than what he's been before. Do you think that we, it's funny? One of our other articles of faith when we talk about the jazz in the last 5 years when we talk about Rudy Gobert, Rudy Gobert is a walking top 5 defense. And I think they were tenth and defensive efficiency, the jazz, this past season, Rudy paid a little bit of a price for that in some of the, you know, the postseason award voting and everything else. And whether that was about him eroding a little bit or maybe just as a team eroding a little bit. And you know, like they were, there's a reason you break up a tandem as they did this stage anyway. These things tend to have a lifespan in the NBA. 5 years is a long time in MBA franchise life. So I don't know how much of that is on him. Did you see any erosion at all in Rudy this past season? Do you agree with the idea that he's a walking top 5 defense? Is that what the Timberwolves will now be? Because offensively, clearly, they have a ton of firepower. And in fact, on day one, Anthony Edwards and Carl Anthony towns to say nothing of D'angelo Russell because again, I don't know where he'll end up if he'll stay or not, but just Anthony Edwards in towns alone, no offense to the jazz, but that's better than anything Rudy has been surrounded by in the course of his career. So what would you expect as you're trying to project out on July 7th, as we sit here? For Rudy fitting in their offense, for what, first of all, what Rudy does for the Timberwolves defense just by being Rudy in that, again, they've been at best an average defense. And as you noted, it took a lot of machinations just to create that last season. Are they a top 5 defense with them on day one? And you know, offensively, might they get a little more out of him than a jazz offense that, to your point, maybe didn't find creative ways or advantageous ways to use them at times? Yeah, I like both questions. So they've got a chance to be a top 5 defense. McDonald's has to play more. Edwards has to keep improving. I will remind you of something when Phoenix traded for Shaq and ended the 7 seconds or less Nash sons. I have a good friend who was on the staff. And I spoke to him. What are you guys doing? You have the sexiest team in sports, amongst amongst all sports, what are you doing? He said, this was after the season. We got worn down, having a double so often inside. And I think Mike, more than I spoke to D'antoni last month, then I asked him about this, but I will, next time I speak to him, they felt like we're just getting too tired because of all the scrambling revenue defensively, which is how Minnesota played last year. They elected a double, not because of lack of size cats huge because of how they played in the lack of good defensive players in the other spots. And young players. They won't have to do that this year and nearly as often. They can play more square, we call it, less gambling. They can choose the gamble, pick your spots, nothing wrong with that. You don't have to do it all the time because you've got that guy just like Robert Williams, so he made a Robert Williams every game pretty much and asked him to guard the other team's least threatening offensive player. Whoever that would be. Any position. So you can leave more frequently without worrying about your guy. We'll scramble around if you're a guy goes to the room whatever and protect everyone else in the paint. I think that's exactly what, if I'm Christian, you want who I know is a smart guy. I mean, he's probably watching a lot of Milwaukee Bucks tape, and he's watching a hell of a lot of Boston Celtics tape on okay. When you've got that guy, how best should we play? And you can watch tape a couple years ago when the jazz were the best defensive team. I think they got so good offensively. It kind of sucked away their identity. I'm a big believer in identity mattering in the postseason. It kind of helps glue you. We always talk about glue guys, identity can be glue also. And I think this is going to help Minnesota who can easily tip into the offensive side as a glue team, and I mean, look at Golden State, we all are enamored with their, we call it the cuisinart and Steph Curry has to have curry. But this is an identity first defense. Dynasty. And that's how they won, that's how they won this last series. They did it pragmatically when they realized that Boston is just way too big for us. They flooded the paint with bodies. They have no size. It was just bodies. And they clogged the lane and the Celtics were stubborn, and they kept trying to get the first, I call it the first box. The first 8 feet or so and around the rim. They just kept going to the first box and throwing up trash or turning them all over. But Golden State can pivot when that's their identity. They're not having to pull out of a hat. No, this is how they think of themselves. 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"angelo russell" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"Level guys to fill out their roster because that's going to be another issue this summer is how do they fill out their roster? So if you can turn Russ into two or three guys, that can play 15, 20 minutes, I think that's not a bad outcome, really. Without having to give up draft comp or not as much draft comp. Because again, the value with rest is not in his play, or it's not in the player anymore. It's just tied up into the expiring. Yeah. Yeah, that's just it. Teams aren't trading for Russ. I mean, look around, I was doing this just kind of as a thought exercise the other day. I think we did the same thought exercise. I was looking around the NBA, thinking what teams could use Russ. Oh, you didn't want to know what I was talking about? I was going through the playoff series and said out of all these teams, which backcourt could have used us in the series. That's a good question. Maybe Denver, because there were so short handed. But they're going to have Jamal Murray. So exactly. So that rules them out. It just in general, what teams need a point guard. That's really about it, right? The Knicks, maybe? John Blaine. I mean, okay. Let's get gross here. Would you bring D'angelo Russell back to the Lakers if it meant shipping out Russell Westbrook now? Delo, by the way, $30 million expiring contract. So I don't think if dilo had a couple of years left under contract, then there might be some motivation there. But D'angelo Russell, would you bring him back to the Lakers, knowing how badly things went when he was here when he was younger, would you do that? I think so. I mean, the regime is different. For the most part, I mean, I know rob's still here, but that was very much a magic driven trade versus a rob one. Yeah, I mean, Russ can shoot. He's not a bad playmaker, defensively still not great, but I don't think he's as bad as Russ has been. There's still the thought of some potential upside with the rest still. So Deangelo wrestle I should say, sorry. So yeah, no, give me a D low, and that instance. Now that said, the wolves just paid big, big, big money. For Connolly, I very much doubt that you didn't just pay him a ton of money to trade for Russell Westbrook, you know. So again, I'm not saying that's realistic. But I'm just looking around the NBA, what team actually needs a point guard. Not many. And again, if it's the Knicks, oh, I got one for you. What? The wizards?.
"angelo russell" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"We move on, kind of things, but yeah, I mean, that's like there's stuff you hear after someone was in a car crash. You know, like all the problems that they had. So hopefully but it was pretty clear by the end of that grizzly series he was not moving around well at all. He was really, really struggling. So yeah, get him, get him healthy, get him right and then let's go and get back to this next year and try to keep things moving forward for Minnesota off what was a really nice step forward season for them. Yeah, yeah, they had a fantastic season and the next season they'll be back at it. With or without D'angelo Russell, we'll have to wait and see. What happens there? Keith, we have anything else for today. I think that's everything I've got on my I think we're good. I think there was a couple of topics out there that were somewhat in the news purposefully skipping over. So move on and let other people say there are parts on those, but we'll be back tomorrow to break down the Conference Finals. We'll also be back. We will figure out a day this week, both our lives are starting to settle back into more regular routine and normalcy. So we'll figure out a time to do some playback again. Probably for the Western Conference Finals. But we'll figure out a time to do that. I really was going to, I was all set to pop in with you guys. And then we had horrible thunderstorms here that knocked out our power for a while. Last night. So it would be in their kind of floating in and out as the power was up popping on and off. I will propose Wednesday for game one of Mavs and warriors. Tentatively? Let's do it. Okay. So everybody watch, I'm gonna put the link in the description down below..
"angelo russell" Discussed on Lakers Nation Podcast
"Nobody's not just that very few teams need a point card. Nobody wants the style of point guard of Russell Westbrook. A tack on the contract as well. That's the problem. That's the problem. Where do you find a spot for them where they actually want him on the floor? And again, it's a weird spot because he's not the worst basketball player ever. He can still affect winning in a positive way in the right environment. But essentially, if you were to try to out of thin air, build a team to Russell west, but let's say the goal of the team, don't worry about winning games. The goal of the team is to get the best Russell Westbrook you possibly can. Tons of shooting and tons of defense. That's what you want, right? Tons of shooting, tons of defense so you can make up for not having those things for us. And on the offensive in the floor, he's got plenty of spacing. Who's got those things and needs a point guard. And maybe like a pick and roll up. Right. Like who has all three? So there's a rumor today that the wolves are going to look to move on from Deangelo Russell that they're going to look to trade him. And I would throw that out there. I've got some people in the chat mentioning that. I don't know that the Lakers would want D'angelo Russell back, but he's also an expired contract lay of dealer went for another three years or something. I think the wolves, maybe they'd be interested, but he's 31.3 million next season, and then it expires, and that's it. I don't see them as a team that would want Russ. Would that being the case? And then they don't really have any bad salaries long term. I mean, Malik Beasley. He's got a team option after next season though, too, so he's a, and he's not a bad contract. He's 25 years old, making 15 million next season. And then he has a team option the year after that. They just don't have the salaries that you need to clear to make that work. So even with this Russell rumor that's out there, even if D'angelo Russell is really mad at the wolves for benching him in the fourth quarter of the final game of the season and all of that, it's tough to find a fit. It really is. I'm really quickly want to address something. I think that gets kind of lost in the whole trade fantasy world land. That is not just all the time about the player you're trading for trading. It's about the contracts too. Obviously, if you ask the Lakers, do you want D'angelo Russell Russell Westbrook, I guarantee you 9 times out of ten, probably ten times on the other side D'angelo Russell. He's just a better fit that's one thing to his skill sets more fit for the modern NBA shooting playmaking can create his own shot all that jazz that he can play off ball a little bit with LeBron. Don't believe me he did it this year with Kat and Anthony Edwards. But like you mentioned, it's the contract to Minnesota, like you said, if you had a three year deal and you're saying, hey, Minnesota, he has three years making like 30 mil for each year..
"angelo russell" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"To put him on cat. It'll be on the bench three minutes into the first quarter and file trouble. If you go there and Brandon Clark was pretty good off the bench, but he's so small. I don't know. You just need more out of it. He just needs to be better. And I think he will be. I will say this. I am preemptively, not that I'm trying to skip past game two of this series, but I am preemptively excited for that Minnesota crown. In game three, back there. Loud against the clippers and the plan. Yeah. Yeah, no one they got one of these on the road. Oh boy, they are going to be ready to go. So one of the things to watch too is three point attempts in this series. We know the wolves put up a lot of them 41 for Minnesota 27 for the grizzlies and the grizzlies only shot at 26%. That's the difference in this game. Can the grizzlies do what they need to do to not necessarily get the attempts down for the wolves because you know they're going to shoot them, but get that percentage to come down a bit and then they need to knock in a few more of their own. We'll see what they can do there. Also, the fowls in this game were a factor. I mean, look at how many guys got into foul trouble. We'll see both of these teams play very aggressive defensively, but there were a lot of 32 fouls for the wolves and in 24 for their grizzlies. This was a physical game. And this was not a tightly officiated game. It was just there was a lot of fun. There was a lot of sloppy stuff to dumb stuff, where it's like reaching on guys 40 feet from the basket and things like that. If you're in Minnesota, you're thinking D'angelo Russell two for 11, sure some of the other guys might cool off, but delo can shoot much better than that too. So maybe there is some sustainability there. I think we both had grizzlies in either 5 or 6, does the game one outcome change your prediction on that? Yeah, I don't think it'll probably go 6 now. I tend to think when the road team wins. One, they'll get at least one more at home. So staying with Memphis though. Yeah, I'm still going to say them. Okay. And I don't think they'll overreact too much. But not that Minnesota has a tunnel playoff experience, but young team, you know, let's see. Minnesota gets up to.
"angelo russell" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"So the big reason, if you're think of Minnesota Memphis, is if there's an Edwards thing going on here that would be like kind of generational wouldn't just be like, oh man, remember that one. This would be something different would be going on. There's a chance that this guy is truly special. You go. Yeah, that's kind of what, wait, what if he really is this guy? Because he had this weird lull towards the end of the regular season, which I still, I'm just going to admit it. There are times where I feel like the D'angelo Russell combo with him, although this has been a better version of D'angelo Russell. Like my thing with the angel of Russell is this. He does the hard things well, and he does the really easy things poorly. And so it can still fuck you when he's going great scoring and dishing and his skill, but then it's like, why can't you do these other little things are a lot easier that can lead to losses. So I've always felt like even though I want a couple scoring options from the wing, I wondered if that ever got in the way of Anthony Edwards and when Edwards is like, all right, you know what? I just think I'm gonna take over here for a little while and then he started doing it again at the end of the regular season and then what he did in game one. This is not sort of more getting absurd here. But could we be on the cusp of all right, I don't even want to say this out loud because I feel like it's stupid. But my favorite example of like, oh, okay, so this is real. It's when LeBron got to that awful calves team to the NBA Finals. They beat Detroit that gets swept by the spurs. That team was not good. I always joked that the LeBron deserves a half a ring for that one. And then it's like, all right, well this is now it took the rest of it took a little bit longer than we thought. And I'm not saying Edwards now is going to carry the Timberwolves of the NBA Finals, but if this is as real as you and I think it could potentially be, then maybe this is what it's going to be. He's that special that I'd at least allow myself to have this thought where other 7 seeds. I'd be like, ah, whatever. You got the first one in Memphis is too good. They're going to figure this out. It turns 21 on August 5th. That's right, same birthday. It's.
"angelo russell" Discussed on NBA Front Office w/ Keith Smith & Trevor Lane
"There for Clinton too. I mean, that's just a matter of that's going to happen. And then the warriors right now are barely hanging on. There are game ahead of the maps. The maps could in theory catch them. Particularly the warriors have lost their last three in a row. So you've got them. I tend to look at it as what I'm thinking playoffs. I think you've got three distinct tiered now Steph Curry back. Maybe you can put Golden State in Memphis in the same tier. But without him, I think it really is Phoenix, Memphis, and then Golden State, maybe in their own tier, if curry's back, we'll see. Yeah, I have curry's back. If he's not right, and then you've got a grouping where it's the Mavs, the jazz, the nuggets, you can order them in some way, make arguments for all of them. I think the maps right now are playing the best basketball out of that group and health perspective as well. So I think that's pretty fine when you're looking at the way things are lining up currently. And then Minnesota has separated themselves from that kind of playing group where they're also kind of in that mix with like I don't know in a tea wolves, jazz series. Like that's a tough series to call for me. Even though they're separated by a couple of spots in the standings. Yeah, yeah, and I don't know that we'll get it. No. Because I mean, but yeah, but yeah, I'm not Minnesota. When you have cat and Edwards and I think it almost kind of sometimes gifts for God. D'angelo Russell's a guy who could throw up a 40 point game. They actually do play defense. Pretty well. So yeah, it's definitely there. And then behind them write the clippers, they're not going to catch Minnesota. So no one's going to catch the clippers either. So clippers in 8, so we're going to get it's just the question is did the jazz or nuggets at this point fall far enough from Minnesota to catch them. I tend to think probably no. But the jazz are playing terrible right now. So maybe that happens. And then it's pelican spurs Lakers for the final the 9 ten 11 spots. They're all within a game of each other. So it's not to air our dirty laundry here, but I was kind of like, where are we at with this? And I feel better because you're like, oh, we talk. Oh, yeah, yeah. Do the Lakers even want to make the plan. Is the question? So I'm going to ask you two questions then. The first one is where you at with it. So you tell me and then I'm going to make more of a statement. Okay. So here's and this has been definitely part of the discourse on Lakers nation has been what do we want the Lakers to even make the plane? Because there's two sides to this..
"angelo russell" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Who we thought would retired 5 years ago and then it's going to be set of playing with Paul. Bridges you never know what's going to happen. He can get you 25. Cam shot the hell out of the ball before he got hurt again. And they're just, they're deeper. And that's not even including Crowder and sham at some point too. So there are deeper team and there are better team they were last year and I feel like people are just kind of meant about them. They demolished hardened today. Now harden partially demolished himself because it doesn't look like he can get anybody that by anybody the same way that he used to. But the sunset probably four or 5 guys who could just stay in front of him. And he was doing that thing where he was just trying to lurch into guys because he was he wasn't getting by them. But we've seen this with them over and over again. These perimeter guys come in. A lot of confidence in the sun's just, they just throw waves of dudes at them. And then if that doesn't work, then you have 8 and waiting in the back. And then on the other end, I just love the shots I get. They've been, you look up there's 61. Can I interrupt you real quick though on that? What you were talking about? Because Hardin tried to dribble Booker to death? Yeah. And Booker just stayed. Didn't work. And was like, all right, dude, you want to do a fucking dribbling drill in front of me? All right, go ahead. And he doesn't move. He can't shake him. Kobe asks, the way he was treating it was Kobe S how he was kind of just staring it hardened with kind of semi contempt. You finish all your dumb shit, but if you're actually going to try to go Barbie, you're not going by me. Yeah, and he didn't, he didn't shake him at all. Harden didn't even really try to go. He just went between his legs and a million times, and then Booker stayed up. And then harden tried to like, all right, well, I'll just go into a jumper and get a foul and he tried his stuff and Booker just didn't go for it. And Booker, you're totally right. It's like a great pickup by you. Booker was like annoyed, like dismissed. He was annoyed the whole game. In 22 in the first quarter, he was like, fuck this guy. I'm better than him. And the other thing, this is a carry over to the Minnesota game where they went in there and that was a really good game, but at the very end, Phoenix is kind of like, we're going to slap you guys around a little bit. And Booker's getting teed up after he dunked on D'angelo Russell. Russell had started saying, I don't have any friends. You're not my friend. Booker has an edge in a nasty to him to himself now that seems to be growing. And that was super evident that one thing you were talking about with art. Well, you also had, obviously, Chris Paul is the most important thing that's happened to Booker's career, having this guy passed through his life. Chris Paul has two guys on the sixers team. That he's not like, I don't know, nuts about Doc and then Hardin. What did you see what was going on at the end? I mean, first of all, that part in hunting as much as they possibly could. They were even doing different stuff where they were like setting the second screen. Like the first one is like you think we're not going at hard. We're actually going it hard in the second one. And then the Deandre Jordan minutes, which I think any sixers fans would be like, you probably just cover your eyes or fast forward through them. At that point. But Paul hit that layup and looked at Doc and then he hit another jumper where they were just struggling. Like there was one where hard and even fell down were Paul up fake for a jumper and then just a nice dime to ayton and Hardin had fallen down past it. Paul had like two or three moments. I mean, Doc, I don't even notice it because Doc's gonna say like let's get it to maxi. But you're right. And again, this isn't surprising. It's Chris Paul. There was a crowd or three that finished the game right in front of the sixers bench where he did like the double hop steps stare down. Move, which I enjoyed, immensely. Just in general, there was definitely under the radar contempt that the sunset, but that's the way they've gone all season. They're 61 and 14. Say that again. There's 6 to one in 14. So now we're talking. And look, this is why I love the 82 game season. This is why I love how all the seasons relate. I think 66 wins is the cutoff for if you go 66 and 16 or higher, something really happened here. So all right, going down 2016 were 73 9. 96, 72, ten. 97, 69 and 13. The underrated kind of, oh yeah, by the way, our second best season 6 to 13. 7 two Lakers, same thing, 6 9, 13. Wilt 67, 6 or 68, 13. And then the 73, 68 and 14. That was my dad's favorite Celtic team. Have a check separated shoulder than not winning. Then we dip to 67 and 15. That's the 16 spurs, which is such a weird one. I don't know. You go back and look at that 2016 season. There's like a weird talent to fish and see. And some weird records. O 7 Dao is zero zero Lakers, 92 Chicago, 86 Boston and the 17 and 15 warriors. And then the 66th and 16th club is 13 Miami onan Cleveland O 8 Boston, 71 Milwaukee. I mentioned this because I just mentioned 17 teams. Those are 17.
"angelo russell" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Been four years ago, three years ago now, when dame like had just started pulling out that sidestep step back. And it was relatively novel at that point. And I think guys were trying to figure out like, hey, how to do this. And he was explaining to me like the drills that he's doing in order to be able to bring that into his repertoire. Or explain the ways to me that he sees D'angelo Russell coming off of ball screens. That's kind of a sneaky one. Like whenever you play, did you, because you're pretty close in HD Angelo Russell, right? How does he like 27 to 25, 26? 26, something like that. He's been the lead 6 years now, something like that. Yeah, something like that. But like, a lot of guards that I talked to watch D'angelo Russell because they find his footwork. He's not the best athlete in the world, especially at that point because he'd had the knee injuries already. They watch his footwork in pick and roll because he's so outstanding and the way that he uses his body, particularly, like he'll just lock eyes in jail on his hip. And Darius was like explaining to me like how is a smaller guy he was trying to use like his leverage and bend a little bit more to keep that center of gravity so that even though he wasn't as big as D'angelo, he could still keep guys on his hip in a real way in ball screens. And it's just like conversations that you have with guys that are somewhat uncommon in terms of just their professionalism, their mindset, like clearly the key was just uncommon. It was a conversation that stuck out in my brain because of how uncommon it was that this kid was like so into with his craft already at such a young age as a scoring guard. Yeah, and that doesn't surprise me. He's son of an NBA player, you know, usually when you grow up in that environment, your mind kind of operates a little bit differently. And it obviously reflects to your encore production. I would have never spoken to Jalen Brunson. Obviously, I got the chance to play against him. A few times and just seeing that he's not the most athletic. He's not the biggest, not the tallest strongest, whatever. The way that he works his angles, he's very, very smart, very high cube basketball players and I would be interested in picking his mind on similar questions as well on what he sees as obviously he's enjoying the best season of his career. I've heard his name come up in trade rumors and stuff too. But I think as basketball players, we're always looking at the person who doesn't have it all like who's not naturally the most gifted, like not the most athletic, like why I'm drawn to like a Paul Pierce or gonorrhea like, hey, these guys, they're not super fast. They're not late. They're not finishing out the room. How is Paul Pierce's footwork so good that he always gets his shot off. He's slow. I think that we really are interested in those little things that are involved with the game. Because it's so perplexing to us how they're able to do these things. And we want to add a target game. So hearing that about Darius Garland and he's making the translate to the court as well, you know, he's doing the sidestep stuff..
"angelo russell" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"Not necessarily to me who had him at 27 to start the season, but I think that people would consider him underwhelming. And then the potential for guys like tyrese hunter, Tara and Armstrong, X, Y, and Z right. Yeah. Too deep at this point. Yeah. So. I think the answer is probably fat. Thinking back on this. Just for it is here and now too, because 2019 all right, it's John morant. Kobe white. If you're not a huge Kobe white fan, you're not a believer in derisk Garland. Maybe. It's not even close, I don't think. It's so far ahead of these guys. Like Darius Garland and Jade and I here, like pretty close, I think. In terms of prospects. And then you throw fucking job around on there. There's no chance. I mean, do we think Jade and IV and D'angelo Russell are like pretty close, like I D'angelo Russell at I think four or 5 that year and he went number two. Yeah, it's hard because again I'm not trying to change the past, but I think those more of his game has changed some since the NBA. I think the new stuff is different. Slowed him down quite a bit. And then like you still have moody a and then like the big group below. So it's basically like moody versus all of these other guys. And like all of these, too, because he was potentially going to be a thing. Like people were surprised he slid down to where he was. Yeah, I really, really liked him. I missed I missed on him. I would say fact to this question, but it's a really good question. And I think it's close. The problem is that I'm just I think that there are some people who would answer fiction to this question. Because I think that there was more steam behind moody a than there is behind high tie right now. Maybe if we include Dyson Daniels, it might be fiction, I don't know, like I don't know if Dyson's gonna play point at the NBA level. I think he's probably more of like a two. Yeah, this is like the most like equivocating like hemming and hawing answer in the history of game theory podcast more. Yeah, it'll be it'll be a lot of editing and I'm sure circling back when people saw you forgot this guy that guy, but it would be good brain candy for you to dive into the notebook and see where we went wrong. This is definitely a podcast that I edit substantially too. Let me tell you. You know what this is, and this is cross sound funny. I'm gonna go to bed and wake up at 6 a.m., my son's screaming for me to go pick him up, and I'm gonna look at my phone and I'll say text from Santa Fe and he'll be like, this is gonna be something..
"angelo russell" Discussed on Game Theory Podcast
"You want to scroll or nod your head, tell your buddy, say this messed up, but I agree with this fine, but like you just get yourself into trouble. For what? What was the benefit here? What's the value play? What's the value play? Seriously. Like how he liked that tweet. You know what? We better trade for the piece. He's pissed off. Like, it's just going to come back and bite. Yeah, no. I don't really get it. Look like this is one of those things where I think that the media in general overreaches on when guys like tweets, like look, if Marvin Bagley's dad comes out and says trade my son, that's one thing, right? If we have like a context list liking of a tweet that could just be like NBA players having enormous fucking fingers dealing with small technology like phones. So I get it. There's sometimes like, oh, then we have to do that just unclick it real quickly. This wasn't what so I don't even want to be here or get me out here tweet. It wasn't that. Yeah, no. This is one of those times where I wish that we would be a bit more responsible in the way that we frame coverage. I'm sorry that it's a business. You have to do it. It's like it has to be covered. Tim rolls beecher list or an NBA Twitter account. They're not gonna let that one slide. You can't. Yeah, I'm sorry, the Timberwolves fans have to deal with this. Look, they finally have excitement. I know that they're on a bit of a skid right now, but they finally have excitement. They have Anthony Edwards. They have Karl Anthony towns. D'angelo Russell hasn't played well yet, but they've Jaden McDaniels who I think looks great. They're finally defending for the first time in a while. Let's ease up on this shit. Let's just chill a little bit. Okay. We wanted to transition into actually before we transitioned to talking about sophomores. I want to get the feel of the lay of the land in Boston from our Boston correspondent Matthew penny here. So they hold an emotional players only meeting with the Celtics. What do we think is going on with the Celtics right now, penny? I don't have an answer, but whatever the meat it was, Jalen Brown came out and had an unbelievable two a performance. So if there's any glimmer of hope that was it because there was a players only meeting and then Lowe's reported that it wasn't like a great one, like they came out, not all buddy buddy. Luckily they did play the magic last night and had a resounding victory. The best way to get the best way to get over a skid is to play the Orlando Magic. Oh, yeah, I was crew texting my buddies this morning. They fled the magic. I'm like,.
Wolves' Russell set for surgery, out 4-6 weeks
"NBA note former Buckeye D'Angelo Russell of his 4 to 6 weeks, the Minnesota Point Guard undergo arthroscopic surgery on his left knee. Russell averaging nearly 20 points a game for the T
"angelo russell" Discussed on WFAN Sports Radio_FM
"A bad shot is and when you shoot in 23% from downtown and you're susceptible to these over 18 runs from that stop shooting threes, and he's stopping. You know, Now it's a three or four attempts a game, which is great. Free throw percentage is getting up. He's got a good handle goes left goes right creates. You see him with opportunities with Mitchell Robinson. Some runs at the rim. He's a smart kid. Really like or J. Barrett and I think he's getting coached up again. He's playing without a great pure point guard can't shoot, so they said they don't you know, they said off of him. He gets a point guard that can shoot R. J is going to explode. I love him. Yeah, I don't even know what to expect from, you know, Number three, pick overall. Hell, I don't know what to expect the number one pick overall because they're all 18 year olds these days, so Is we all know it is much of a crapshoot is there is and in any draft in any sport around the world is picking in the NBA draft because these kids could turn out to be great. Or they could turn out to be Marquel folds. The no fault of his own just has issues that crap up mental physical that derail you. So it's hard to like. If you're in the number one pick, you should be here. Number two pick you should be here. It's impossible. But, yeah, he looks good As of late even though as we mentioned earlier, bt he's playing a crap load of minutes. Yeah, that's the Abydos way of saying All right, young buck figured out and you're gonna you're gonna do it by black fire, You know, not not the easy way. We're not gonna practice your way into greatness. It just turned 20 this summer. He's a young kid. His dad played at Saint Johnson Duke. He comes from that kind of a family. Now I don't think you'll be the second player on a team like you. I don't think you if he's the second best player That's not unless he hits a three and then and then the that's a reliable shot that I change. What I'm about to say he's probably more suited to be a third on a really good team with a diverse skill set and for the third pick, that's plenty. That's fine. All right. The T wolves have the second worst record in the NBA on their guard. One of them the Angelo Russell's sticking up Red Coach Ryan Song They're saying quote. I feel bad for coach right now is not getting a fair shake and quote. Should Minnesota be better than they are? Yeah, but there's so many circumstances around that team. Um, so yeah, I look. Coach Saunders is having a It is evident struggle, obviously, and I think it's one of those things that again you could. You could make excuses for. Ultimately, he'll be held accountable, but, um, I think there's just too many mitigating issues around. This team this year for them toe really try to thrive, So it just is what it is. It's frustrating. It's hard. It's difficult to talk about what this team but I hear you. Yeah, I appreciate that's pretty stand up on the part of Russell there. They're just They've been in an odd collection of talent for a while. I mean, they had talented players, and we know Carl Anthony sounds family situations. So certainly takes President supersedes whatever he's doing out on the court on nightly basis, but You know, it's just one of those things where I need to know how he's playing. I bring this up. Every time was playing okay? Yeah, he's he's fine. He's fine..
NBA trade deadline: Winners, losers and teams in between
"Flurry of trades in the NBA a blockbuster in baseball mortar common colds to memorialize Kobe Bryant and highly visible way joined by ESPN's Howard Bryant good morning hours good morning Scott how are you I'm fine thanks is awesome aggressive deals in the NBA trade at the trade deadline who do you rack up as the winners and losers well and I'm not sure about the winners and losers of the trade deadline but certainly the winners and losers right now of the first half of the season you've got a look at the Lakers in the west and and the Milwaukee Bucks I think they are head and shoulders above everybody else how could you hold on for a moment our you know head yes government for you almost got me for a second there's got yeah Milwaukee is terrific and and they're great they're holding on the crushed Philadelphia the other night I thought coming into the season it was gonna be Philadelphia Milwaukee Los Angeles and Los Angeles Lakers and the clippers but I'm not too sure about the other two yet but we've got a long way to go I think trade deadline wise I think Miami Heat got much much better they got on great good dollar they made a very good deal with Memphis I think that Philadelphia tried to shore up of making a deal with with the warriors and de Angelo Russell going to Minnesota who knows what that's gonna do maybe there's a late run there but the bottom line is coming forward right now I still think that you've got two teams in this league disappointed the Boston Celtics didn't do anything but I think it's the box and the Lakers right now an official memorial for Kobe Bryant's been set for February twenty fourth they've been calls to make his image a permanent part of the game you even rent a Poland that did I did I read a little Twitter poll this morning which was soundly rejected to replace Kobe Bryant is Jerry west to is the logo of the NBA with cut him a cell away from the silhouette of your request yes absolutely and it would have been fitting in some ways because Jerry west was the the man behind making sure Kobe Bryant ended up with the Lakers making that draft day trade with the Charlotte Hornets and I I understand add on one on one level the need or they want to want to memorialize Kobe I also understand that the NBA has been around since nineteen forty seven and maybe it's time to create a new logo Jerry west has been there fifty years since nineteen sixty nine however I do think that if you're going to think about and I'm a new logo or and a modern logo it's probably got to be Michael Jordan right or but I got an arm and a leg yeah but I also understand the desire right now for people to feel that something should be done for Kobe Bryant after after all that happened Boston Red Sox LA Dodgers Minnesota Twins switching sports agreed to a three team trade Tuesday that's been perhaps delay it has been delayed because of some medical records Mookie Betts has what they call a generational player MVP Golden Gloves traded to the Dodgers are the red Sox making the worst roster decision since they sold Babe Ruth's contract well if you red Sox fans are very happy about it especially because it's a generational player Mookie Betts is a beloved player two years ago he wins the M. B. P. and they won the World Series you're looking at a guy that fans just adore and it's a very cynical move in some ways but it also may very well be a huge business deal for them because number one we know that super star players now at this level after Manny Machado deal after the Bryce Harper deal your it in and now the the Gerrit Cole deal you're looking at three hundred and fifty four hundred million dollars to sign a player and if Mookie Betts didn't want to play with the red Sox will find out over the next several weeks and months if that was the case then of course they had to move them but on the other hand if that's not the case the red Sox are a super power they can sign whoever they want they've got money it's looking like a cynical deal we will see I'm good at and by the way I got as you know your cubs aren't far behind because you've got a guy like Chris Brian who's another cornerstone player and what does that mean for the cubs keep these players and the fans love him yeah thank you very much ESPN's Howard Bryant thanks so much no my pleasure
Warriors trade D'Angelo Russell to Wolves for Andrew Wiggins
"And twenty the warriors finish off the trade deadline yesterday with a trade of de Angelo Russell to the Minnesota Timberwolves in return the warriors get former number one overall pick Andrew Wiggins as well as a pair of draft picks a fourth rounder and a second rounder from twenty twenty one top three protected for that first rounder from Minnesota courtesy going to rule
Grizzlies' Andre Iguodala situation is ugly, but this is how the trade game is played
"The trade deadline is Thursday and by the way do you have an opinion on de Angelo Russell I I got to tell you this at first I was completely in favor of moving him but having gone to a few games Polly being is the partial season ticket holder and fill up man he is a beautiful score he really is and maybe the idea of him and clay and stuff on the same team is kind of intriguing you know not the roster destruction be interesting but right now the timber wolves aren't offering enough so the ways do you have to make a move though to get under attacks line otherwise have to pay a forty million dollar fine I think a lake of even as much as he likes his who concerts in his post Malone concerts and he's not looking to pay forty mil right so Alec Burks could move a blend Robinson could move yeah Amari Spelman could move Jacob everything will come on Looney could move by you gotta wonder what his future is I mean it's unfortunate because he was became such a dependable player for Steve Kerr but I mean I don't know is is he ever going to get back but the real story planned out is with our old pal Andrea you get done yeah how about this is a really weird story he hasn't played a minute from Memphis this year and by the way I think he's making like seventeen Mill seventeen seventeen Mill and I am a little unclear I've tried to read up in much again yeah one clear as to how he can just stay away like is there something in the CBA were like no you gotta come play for is like the guy in office space is again just not going to work anymore I'm just not going under you've missed a lot of games I wouldn't exactly say missing at and I by the way when it when Andriy does come back and go to practice the question is does he clean of fish on newspaper in the locker room do does the does god can offer yeah so anyway so they're going to try to move him and get some for him chained to a veteran team and now the Memphis Grizzlies having a surprisingly good here the twenty five and twenty five they actually hold the eight spot right now they do they got young players like John Moran and they got Dillon Brooks and Dillon Brooks finally just yesterday said you know what we young guys on the Grizzlies a few Andre staying away yeah you can email this
Klay Thompson on ACL injury: 'Most tragic part of sports'
"With a little bit NBA news Klay Thompson has addressed the ACL injury not surprising what he says that the quote obviously the most tragic part of sports you join Kerikeri champion on SportsCenter talk about his injury which he initially thought was a sprained knee and just a reminder of of sort of the the long road ahead in recovery for clay and for the war effort also went a long way in saying if your counting out the warriors dynasty your you're doing yourself a disservice I think you called the ignorant to put a fork in them at this point in time based on coming back with Steph curry with Draymond green still a lot of confidence in that group when he gets back on the court saying the praise of de Angelo Russell so you can clearly see the chip forming on the shoulder of the former best team in basket it's just a matter when he'll be back by the end of the season by the playoffs are coming back from ACL and something again he never had something that that bad so he didn't know he knew something happened but he said he didn't know how bad it was in the adrenaline is we don't like the drawing can kick in when you have an injury that's why he's walk member he was never he was walking in the concourse to go back and they said if you don't come back and do the free throws you can't go back in the game he went back out with this torn ACL and shot the free throws so he could literally then go into the locker room thinking he was going to come back out and play again because that adrenaline was going and he had never had in his bed did know how bad it was and then you find out yeah the ACL injury in your life okay that's going to be here if you're Golden State you just banking just get in the playoffs because by the time he gets healthy then you can go in and have that that roster repaired