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02:43 min | 10 months ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Also use our twitter or facebook pages and channels to send me a message and to get the latest information from us. I'm welcoming. Everyone also who is back to this show and more and more of you are coming back to the show and that makes me really happy. I have to tell you that last Sunday not only. We had the really nice episode that we launched with Georgia von Rowdy but also we did our first lecture often new sauce Hermes Academy where. Some talked about individuation magic and it was a great experience. Those of you have joined there who have attended that lecture and also discussed with us, and that's the especially interesting that cannot listen to a lecture often important occultist life there. But you can also take part live in discussion and also ask your questions after the lecture. So these was the first time we did that was really great and I think everyone who attended and especially, of course to call who really had a great electric and twelve thousand two weeks from now on. September. Thirteen, there will be our next one Angel Millar. Our lecture on September thirteen. Under in the future that has already been planned is fraught ud a great frogs ud. There will also be David Harrison talking about a special part of May freemasonry history and there will be a bead Beth so quite lineup. Do, go on the. Website and click on Fox Hermes Academy to find out all about it. End To book your tickets for that. Right You know what's coming is now the patron challenge is coming of course. Yes. Pedro and challenges still up and and as we have more and more listeners each week, which makes me extremely happy. Well, the challenge gets harder for you because the challenge is that as soon as we have four percent of our eight week average listener number. Than, we will stop doing I will stop doing publicity for becoming a patron here. but you know it is really needed that you support this podcast award, the podcast which costs money to make to produce. It's not for my own gain. It's just to make this viable and to produce.

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

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03:01 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

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14:55 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Motoo Musashi Plato But you also find this. Even within the occult world of the modern early modern the Cold War the early modern coal pioneers very much reflected. Plato and Miyamoto Musashi. You take us to cruelly for example. I know he's the most controversial coldest of the modern age probably cruelly practice boxing when he was a university of boxing mountaineering. Very very good. So yeah that's right. Yeah -CCOMPLISH mountaineer. He practised painting. He was an accomplished painter in in Germany in particular a poet exactly. He wrote novels So he he covered this this spectrum. Which you'd you'd find Really being heralded in ancient and classical society the dance release since men the Renaissance Man. Yeah that's right. That's right and not just cruelly many of the members of the Golden Dome were involved in the theaters Wbz Gates was the the poet laureate of islands and they will vote with you. Know The arts in some way. Not just the arts but You know other things as well and Rudolf Steiner as you know So he He He's more famous in Australia of course but he was. He was involved with the theological society in the ancient primitive ancient rite of Memphis misery and You know is is really one of the pioneers of his own spirtual school of Anthropology anthroposophy but he was Was it was also an architect to some degree I believe. He did painting as well He he he founded his own education system or the ward off system and you can find schools all around the world of already still around Europe and America off of the school system that he founded any. He was founded by the dynamics method of farming as well. And it's always there's always a dry things in in his also in his Worldview let's put it that way you have always. I think if you could do an in depth study steiner would marymount sure laid pseudo three thirty. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah you know it's interesting. You should say that because I didn't actually know that about China but these archetypes do kind of return in different ways. You can make sense right if if these really are the very basis of of human civilization than you would expect them to keep occurring and not to invoke freemasonry too often but a few years ago. William de Moore who was the chancellor of the WHO's the director of the Chaucer Rub Livingston Library of the Grand Lodge of New York. Very long title. He was not a freemason and I don't believe he knew about the ancient structure of society. All this idea that it was structured by the crossman warrior magician but he made this claim that the American freemasonry had him buried. Embodied the crossman in the craft masonic lodge blue launches sometimes called entered apprentice fellow craft and must mason. And then the your cry with the Knights templar degree and so on his dad that represents the Holy Warrior Scottish. Right where you have the rose quays of that represents the magician. And even though I don't think he knew about these ancient structure I think it was purely intuitive nevertheless he sore in this modern as modern society really talking about American freemasonry in the twentieth century. That point maybe twenty-first-century slightly but Squeaking the claiming that embodies these ancient archetypes and again. Plato seems to suggest the same thing. We find it in these early. Pioneers of of the of the modern Nicole Movement that they very much have these warrior craftsman magician elements is not just one day and that's why they were both love and will hate them like them or not. You cannot deny that these people were in no way. Absolutely brilliant genius is really in many cases and you could not find the likes of these people outside of the world and they seem to maybe intuitively grasp that it was magic. It's also these other things more. Magic magic is not the spirituality. It's not just doing the spiritual staff. It's also the the other archetypes the craftsman and the warrior. It's the body and it's the practical application of doing things with your hands and a developing something get lighted it and that might be dangerous. Yeah Yeah Yeah but still you have to tell me a few words about nonstick initiation because that's the type of initiation that you mentioned in the third our demonstration. So could you just show define that a little bit? Yes Loo- nasty initiation as you knew North Dakota no sisters referring to knowledge we have one hundred fifty divisions of narcissism talking about the modern stick Even the ancient I'm talking purely about Knowledge of the divine. That's IT and so it is related to what we've been talking about this of peeling back the Iron Age the Kaluga. We're looking into the into the the golden age but and and some of the themes like talk about in one chapter will return so. I do talk again about these. These Hugo's ages and it was a in related to this. Descend in the Kabbalah. Where you you start. Koetter this this fear that is a more essentially close to the to the original and then then filth down into Malkov the material world which which again you find very much reflected in Islamic neoplatonism. The Islamic neoplatonism had numerous identical idea. Although it should be said I talk about the Kabbalah in its two different forms. The the Kabbalah which is the tree of life and then the Igloo Limb Kabbah which is a different conception equally isola consumption instead of manifesting in this way like a tree manifested in this fear and the light came through the void of Ain. Soften spread outwards into US. Fear and then sort of manifested different world within it so you have kanter on the outside and closest to the center you have. Malcolm but in In Islamic neoplatonism as well. You're very much the same idea. This there is a law which is perfect in itself new Conradi described because it's beyond description. Perfect comple- an intelligence manifest out of there. And then from this manifest this intelligence you get these other intellects manifesting in each intellect is responsible for a different planet or angels and so on and the very end it creates conditions for human consciousness. And you got the being but So you have this idea of manifestation in in in the magician we want to go from Malcolm to to to the to the Golden Age. That's the two embodying end someway just remembering it but now we once we body and their you know maybe different ways of doing that but one of the things I look at it as a Tantrum and sex magic this this idea that there's some way that we divided within ourselves and within inside of US outside of us and so one thing we have is the the highest the lowest of so we want to go towards. The high US often embody that but incomplete. Soviet also. Try to complete ourselves. By unifying all uniting with another being that is opposite or complementary to us and becoming one like this As well and and as you say the very last chapter that all comes to the question of balancing those three archea person. Yeah that's right. Yeah yeah that's purely. A paused learning like an extra an extra. It's like more like a ball which becomes bigger and bigger and if you add a layer comes complete but is needed to maintain what is underneath right. Yeah basically ends. You know going back to the hog occurred this idea if you if you practice away and you look at another way. You should understand your wave more so you know if you practice magic. Can you studied the martial arts? You know more about your spiritual practices. Or if you're if you practice spirituality and you take up an odd. Let's say painting something. You'll know more about spirituality by doing that in some way you'll have some new grasp that and if you practice will three now you're beginning to have something that's really complete and I would say actually is really want magic is about if you look at these early Pioneers Aleve. Martin Magic Croly Steiner. And so on Yeah well angel. That was fascinating talk. Thank you so much and I really hope that it also would initiate people will get your book and Read Almond read further. Because I think it's worth it and great book that he wrote Jim. Thank you for that lovely talk that we had and I wish you all the best of luck for all your future plans and do keep us informed about your new plans and books. Whatever will be here and I hope we will once again meet on the podcast to maybe presented another book or some other projects that yeah definitely thank you very much. It's been great. Well thank you angel by now. Now her warrior by composer. Philip lack of it. Thank you angel for these very interesting talk and for the time we were able to spend your company. I hope folks that you all enjoyed our discussion and stat. We were able to give you some deeper insight. In what initiate expre- tragedy is or should be. We this we will come to the end of this episode. Thank you all for having been with us today. I hope that I will also see you again in a week. From now on episode eight of the saucer means podcasts. Season for and stood next episode will be our February edition of Liberals as always. I'm going to present to you for interesting books that you should not want to miss. Also as usual one of those books would the presented through twenty minute interview with the author himself. And this time we'll have somebody else who returns on this podcast. The incredible and Incomparable Law Milo duquette. We'll talk to me about his latest published work. I'm sure this is something you're not going to one to miss. Thank you again for having been with me today for now. I will tell you care. Stay tuned.

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

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14:26 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Could you explain more? Yes this semester. Semantic just means the body Monica was talking about Monica initiation. That means memory. So that is for the crossman then for the Warriors Semitic initiation the initiation of the body and There are different ways in which the the body becomes a part of the initiation. And let's just take the physical body and if you look at something like this the Shaolin Temple. Amongst practicing every day the dress the same. They're all wearing the same monks Rogan. We like that and Us Westerners but the other thing that they're doing is they're making their body uniform the all of their bodies look the same so one is in Three hundred pounds and the other one ninety pounds rule probably around the same sort of build. There will be around about the same sort of weight aspiring to be building the body. It's become a sort of ARCHETYPAL WARRIOR. Monica's it were and and that's and that's really something that's already spoken about. But that really is the aim in these different traditions. You you're making your body into this archetypal warrior body. It in itself is a tool but it's also a uniform so that's one way but maybe for your listeners and I go into this may be more important way is this of INA Al Chemical Way. In which the warriors trying to generate in an NGO in Kung Fu and Taoist in an NGO alchemy would be called key in Hinduism also nuts prawn the subtle energy that is alleged pervade the entire universe and this within our body and can be cultivated and in. Taoist in Alchemy This cheese coded in the body and the The lower denton is in the belly. As it were. And eventually it's rises up to the top of the head and it becomes a quarter spirit fetus. And then this this the spirit emerges out of the top of the head and goes back to the primordial you will dow so. It's this idea of creating this body which can become immortal and comes immortal with with your consciousness. And so that's one one practice with this energy in the martial arts. I might be coding in energy for health in the body for some people it might be to be able to project this energy be on the body to perform some kind of healing on other people or something like that. But that's That's part of what I call the symmetric initiation. You cultivate the body the muscles for example. Which would require you having some fairly high degree of health. The you'll also cultivating this inner energy. This kind of energetic body is healthy. Physical body healthy right right okay. Well thank you for another little bit on on this dragon slayer so archetype off the dragon which we find many cultural vision and I find it interesting that you that you kind of put it into like a necessity into the path of initiation and that is that the abyss or what or is something else. What's The dragon for you Yeah so you have the hero who faces the Dragon on? Sleighs the dragon in in different mythologies norse mythology for example and Yeah so what is the dragon you if you mean in daily life? Yeah that's a good question. I mean I would slant say that the dragon is whatever you fear and but is an obstacle to you going forward in some way and life is very weird and sometimes what you fear life just pushes you toward the and so you you at are facing it. Maybe with some guidance right so if you're afraid of violence you probably should join a martial art screw or or a self-defence group or something like that and Most of the mythologies the dragon also protects some one. You slay the Dragon. Then you're tainted object. We bring you furthering whatever way right yes. That's right exactly and you know we were talking about the Golden Age earlier and enormous mythology. the dragon nears slaughtered. And it's a very interesting scene because the dragon which was at one point a sort of human being type figure this transformed himself into this sort of worm like dragon. He gods this treasure chest of gold and among the gorgeous helm of all which has sort of magical power and even when the dragon is slaughtered and piece of his body gets onto the mouth of the hero. Heroes able to understand the language of the birds which tells you that this now transported back into the Golden Age as well as those psychic powers. He he's able to connect with everything in his is in harmony with everything understand nature and the birds and so long and this of course being symbolic of closer to the goal Orien- Christian terminology closer to heaven an interesting because it was about the Golden Age and the Iron Age and the dragon is very much a manifestation of the Iron Age and he has these iron gates which which which is kept this gold and treasure so you have the gates of the Iron Age and the Dragon News this manifest manifestation of the age was human like figures. Now transmogrify into this Dragon thing that cruel is on its belly so he's already sort of degenerated into something else and then the gates of the I. N. H. A. Locking in this this goal was which has the the the helm of all this magical powers that it's locking in the Golden Age by killing the Dragon. You're able to free you this this goal within this symbolism of the Golden Age and again. That's an initiation rites you enter the gates of the the the I N age. But you unveil the the golden age to you or it's unveiled to you in some way through symbolism and so on the right which brings us almost but I jump jeff up because I would like people to read. The book cannot we? Don't give away everything but we come now. Absolutely we would need to about twelve or fifteen hours to the third archetype. Damn those people who who who may not most people. Maybe I'm exaggerating. Good people who who have an easy idea of majesty. Okay I'm GONNA learn magic. No here magician comes at the end of a long pass or not the end but it's kind of is a kind of inner order even right so yeah now you're your definition of the third archetype magician right so well to give you some overview of the magician. Obviously I do look at modern magic and history of magic so you know I do look out of crowly look Allah Levy. I look more modern Magical movements such as chaos magic and Austin spare as well but What am sort of focusing on? Is this division between in man of the highest often the lowest self and also the Anima Animus or the male and female on the unification of male and female and the transcending off the low self and embodying a going towards and embodying this highest off within each of us and and is it is obtaining that third step coming into the architect is is that finality or is it just another step and then you have through something else to to yeah came. Yeah so I would say it's it's another step but You know this A A late summer manual called the Haga Kura which is quite a violent manual and parts but makes us interesting point. It says the When you if you if you practice away which is in the door. The Dow karate judo the way of the empty hand. Kendall the way of the sword charter the way of tea. The tea ceremony and so on so though means sort of a practice in which you learn not only the practice and get better at it. You see something beyond the material you perceive. The primordial dao primordial way of all things will the Kura says when you when you practice away and you look another way which is different to yours. You should be able to understand you away even more so if you practice kind of the way of the soul and then you And then you participate in tea ceremony charter. Then you should be out to see something in that ceremonial something in this other way. The can tell you something about your own art and still use a clearer example. Babs if you compare save a Condo and brush painting and Japanese Society The swordsman and the painter would move the arm in a certain way while exhaling so with the stroke. And so there is this definite connection between the two and So Miyamoto Musashi Japan's most famous summary famous for being a warrior but also famous in Japan. Not so much into less famous in Japan for his landscape gardening painting calligraphy because the ways that he was practicing and you find in ancient ancient societies classical societies. The emphasis in in education is on a holistic education. It's not emphasizing as in modern Western society. You have to find a niche or a niche within a niche. Don't worry about getting a broad general knowledge. Just focus on one tiny little thing in classical and ancient society. The idea that you develop your whole self. So even the Confucian Society Ancient Chinese society Confucian Education. You'll learn ritual philosophy calligraphy music and say archery learn. Autry is not just for fun. Of course it's also a strategy an technique and a tool of war a covers this range and again in an ancient Greece. Plato said You have to learn philosophy music and Wrestling which again relate directly relate to the craftsman warrior and magician absolutely and then even if you look classical western education which was really the the heart of Western education up until fairly recently and that was the seven liberal arts and you find that you You would learn say geometry music rhetoric dialectic than so. You have this this range of subjects. You'll learning how to think and how to speak but also Music career later rhythm as well and learning geometry spatial awareness and outside of that but integral to the education at least of every gentleman quote unquote would be to learn the sword and to learn some kind of boxing or something like that. So you learn these of peaceful arts but you also learn these martial-arts as well and you find that across the globe. So yes you know on the one hand I am saying you want to learn these spiritual the world of the magician but I think what I'm saying different to everyone else is that you don't want to just become this person within a niche at the way the modern laud encourages us. The you want to develop all parts of view they mind body and spirit and this promotion of this Nisha idea. Even within the world of spirituality is a modern idea that is actually incredibly. Anti spiritual already mentioned I mentioned to me..

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

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20:58 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Maybe people have not kind of coming context with at all a new find references to memory in a lot of spiritual and religious tradition. So Jesus of course you broke Brad and Shad wine saying Eat and drink this in remembrance of me and and In Sufism Zaccur is the main practice remains remembrances the remembrance of a law and in in Norse mythology as well. You have the God. Odin with his two ravens you can immune or mind and memory and In in one episode in Norse mythology in sacrifices one of his eyes and throws it into the well of Mimea or the world of the remember so one of his is is literally peering into this well of Sort of archetypal memory as it were and that's very much the initiate Dick Experience in. Let me just say this in Hinduism also nuts and ADAMAS. It's more properly called. There's this idea of the Yugoslav the aons or the ages cash no. That's something else. So yeah so. The these are ages and their four Great Ages. Collie you right yes. That's right so it begins with the Yugo which we might call the Golden Age. Everything is in harmony societies in hominy. Decent people are in the head of Society the family is coherent. And so on. We're in harmony with nature and then declines for these other you guys and you end up with the. Khasi you girl the dark age and in that age which we According to many people which were in today In that age of Kali. Yuga the family you will be broken. Apo- corrupt people will be elected to power or will be given power will seize power. Men will be respected for their money. Men Women will get together on. The basis of sexual attraction alone will be mistrust between different people and so on and so forth and this This is this idea of a decline. You find it elsewhere. So for example in we mentioned the newest mythology in the north the final era is this wolf time. When again you find the brothers will be fighting brothers. There will be treachery and the chaos and then finally all end in this war between the Gods in their enemies and there will be total destruction and then something will come again after that which will be a new golden age as the terms. Golden Age age derived from the poet. Greek ancient Greek poet has caught and he said that the gods created this golden race of people and again this is the golden age they have. They have a healthy bodies. They live a long time. If free of sickness considering home and you with nature and each other and our peaceful than a silver race which is slightly worse than than Lebron's race which is worse and then finally you end up with the the I n race. National warlike can vengeful and and in disharmonious and and chaotic and again that would that would relate back to the The Kali Yuga in regards to memory the idea of Of the initiation memory is that we maybe and the Causey you go this time of of chaos and mistrust and corruption and so on and so forth and of rampant materialism but by going through the initiated ritual by being present in the initiation ritual. We have this sort of an archetypal memory. We remember again what it is to be in the golden age where everything is as it should be all we giving a glimpse of the Golden Age so we can remember a sense of war came before and so the initiates reorientated away from the things of the world towards the divine the spiritual the supernatural whatever it might be underlying the world of the supernatural nature of the world itself right. So that's what we want to remember ready and other things which which might be related to that so cruelly talked about the magical memory Which pertained to reincarnation and so long right so. This is much more than the technique or tool more. It's more it's more content of initiation in this verse Spark Right. Yeah so I will say that. There are two aspects one aspect is the use of demonic tools to remember spits specific things it's technique of learning and of conveying What needs to be conveyed to the initiator? That's what it is the most basic level but then the real memories about remembering this golden age. Remember him bring this This time that is outside of the Collier go outside of the material outside of The the chaos of of modernity and again coming back to Jesus and I'm not a Christian I think everyone guests that but You know still you know this idea that you know eaten. Drink this bread in remembrance of me. It's it's not just a remembrance of of a Historic Event. It's the remembrance of of the supernatural of what transcends the material so you'll remembering something beyond this world and I say that the initiation ritual we don't have to use the word. God you know some people who say wiccans my say goddess or whatever. Let's just let's just use the Tom got the now. Because it's universal and you know I say that the the initiative ritual is what man in God remember together both are remembering this this world of off the Golden Age. And it's through this remembering and remembering together that the initiate is slowly put on the path of transformation Angel Millar and he's very interesting thoughts on initiation and to first archetype craftsman. I promised to you three very different types of music. Well sounds logic when we speak about three archetypes of initiation but the order I took for the musical pieces does not quite follow the order of archetypes in Angels Book. We started off before the interview. We St- magician or sorcerer or rather his apprentice to be exact. This time the musical piece we're going to hear is called initiation. It is a lovely mix of Acoustic Guitar and Eletronics by artist called Reverend who composed and arranged peace. Let me give you a short poem. Who INSPIRED HIM TO THAT MUSIC? High on the windswept hilltop. When tired sunlight's the western sky they stand in circular formations floating ropes of Crystal White Child? Standing in. The centre is reflect. The dancing flame nymphs demons homes to fire laughing endure endless game initiation by Reverend Aw Initiation by reverend let us know. Return to the second part of the with author lecturer as Otero Assist Freemason. And you name it Angel Millar now we are obviously going to talk first about warrior archetype and then towards the end dubose magician if you want more information about the book and to be are discussing and also want to know how to find angel and his website please go today soft. Hermes homepage and checkouts to show notes immediately. After into you you will hear our third piece of music for today which is called warrior. This is a piece of wonderfully MPC sound with a little Celtic background. Written and performed by Philip Laco hits I let me go back to New York can continue my conversation with Angel Millar. Let's move on. Let's move onto question of the warrior now. The warrior who aquarium here again. Maybe you started off because you might want to give. The finish is a strange word but the kind of the of that part second archetype. Sure so you know again. So let's say the question is why the warrior in besides the fact that it's part of this triad of ancient societies but Well the U. Warrior has his own spirituality and of course has affected Our own understanding of spirituality as well so in Christianity you have this idea of the war in heaven. I mentioned to you know a few moments ago that enormous mythology you have this conception of of this battle at the end of time between the Gods and the enemies of the Gods and and of course you have this conception of the hero as his fico who somewhere between Ordinary man and the gods and the Gods often interfere with the world to make sure that the hero succeeds on his quest So he's somewhere between man and the divine and and You know most famously. Perhaps and maybe most controversially you have this this conception in in Islam of of Al-Jihad Alec at the The great the Great War. The grease struggle which is with oneself so the physical fighting an enemy on the battlefield is the Lesser Jihad. And then you have the Greater Jihad or the greatest struggle and so this is very much a part of Islam as well and there's There is a a Islamic chivalry or could photo and Just as you have Christian chivalry as well so you have this elevation of the warriors something. That's more than a porn in a war of fighting that he is. He is attempting a kind of spiritual life in this harsh conditions. And again you know. I really think that this is an episode worth mentioning that in the Bugaboo Guitar which is probably the best known of all of the The Hindu. Lead in. The Bug Keats The gaunt head Krishna is on the battlefield with his disciple Arjuna and they look across the battlefield and they see the enemy army is a raid and Arjuna's cousins and uncles opposing side. And he says to Krishna the guard had he says that he doesn't WanNA fight because he's GonNa have to kill members of his own family needed him want to kill anyone and Krishna. Far from saying killing is wrong. And let's just be peaceful and meditate. Krishna Says No you must kill you. Need says when you go into battle and kill the enemy. Don't despair because it will be me cutting it cutting them down. You will just my agent an insert this moment which is a fairly horrific thing especially for westerners with this conception of spirituality is being very. Jesus like on peaceful. But it's it's there on the battlefield Krishna reveals his cosmic form. It's not an attempt Paul. It's not in a place of peace and love a river somewhere Sunny Day. Feel it's on the battlefield. He reviews his cosmic form and he has millions of heads and millions of arms millions of legs and but in his torso millions and millions of creatures are revolving. Everything is moving within him. The planets and one is the son and the other is the moon. He's the whole of the existence as it were as a kind of consciousness but it's It's not a coincidence. Or a quirk that he chooses to reveal on the battlefield. The Warrior is another type of spiritual being wrestles with himself and wrestles with an enemy. And of course he wrestles with an enemy. Because now we're in the colony. Yuga the age the age of corruption and chaos. So he in a sense almost kind of priests of the Of the age of darkness and chaos the Sham and at the time of more more connected to nature the Shaman might have to control spirits and if he's healing someone who has a sickness he will cast out the spirit from that body of the spirit of sickness through stewing kind of magical battle with these these entities on the warrior is doing on a physical level. The enemy is has come and now he has to deal with the enemy and cost out the enemy in this physical way. But it's also an internal struggle for him. That's the war on the battlefield. This the war in heaven than this war within himself so in India. Most most of the occult systems that I knew and the aspect of a wire and defied. And you do the same here. It's coming already at the higher level. It's not something that you're hearing INTECH sore being explained or in rituals very early stage or lower degree. Because probably you need to understand a few things about yourself first before you can understand. What fight young Yo Hyphen real way? Means right yeah yeah. It's interesting that you should say that. In the initiative systems you know that the warriors comes off to some kind of foundational instruction. It's not the it's not the basic level and I don't know if you're referring to freemasonry but not not not only. Yeah No of course not now but you know and you do have the the craftsman in the craft lodge and then you have this nice template degree or these other nightly degrees which come later on so you have this introduction of the warrior as well so that is true yeah and you know after after perfection degrees the aspect of the night or the warrior only comes once the perfection degrees are coming to their end. Right right right yes exactly. Yeah Yeah Yeah interesting somatic initiation you call it in that part could once again..

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

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14:42 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"We think that it seems to us today. That experienced does lead more to craftsmen to warrior. But a visibly in this archetypal salt or societies. This was seen exactly the way round to do. Yes that experience that you make as men is not seen nowadays as something that is being used for the warriors maybe it depends how you define warrior than Yeah. It does and You know those those societies that we've been talking about ancient societies were more listrik whereas ours is much more atomised and the warrior across Ben and magician. Analysis ideas very very unbalanced. So although you know it's true in in some western societies though fewer and fewer with thank you know there is still a military drafts for a year or two but most countries don't have that the US doesn't have in Britain for example. But I think what we do see an abundance of the the intellect and an emphasis on the intellect and So the magician. Dominates really by the problem is with. The people who are the intellectuals of society is that they're essentially out of balance because they haven't gone through any kind of warrior pass or or any kind of crafts path. It's all intellect. There's nothing really physical that they can manifest. And I think the problem with that is when when you annoying contact the body and you. You don't have practice. Does this Sasha over emphasis on the on the intellectual the reality itself spills like something you can mold and actually you have to learn from reality itself and not the other way around and another problem is aggression doesn't go away if you don't exercise an unhealthy way it comes out through the into x and of course we can see that on twitter where you know people exist without bodies as it were but do nothing but will do nothing attack each other all day long the aggression is still that but it comes out mentally and it's potentially even worse than just a physical fight somewhere which might be five minutes so you will also we also find your physical limits in physical fight very quickly. Yeah that's right that will will probably put your your eagerness in restraints. Yeah exactly okay. Well then let's start with the first of the stages right I. Maybe you want to say something general before before. I asked my first question because he's already been particular. You want to describe how this third stage how you see it and what you what you sing about it okay. Well that's your first question. I guess the other one the second question will be okay. Yeah so yeah. Let's let's just tackle the issue of well if someone is spiritual why would they want to buy a book on the Crossman and the warrior? Why not just on the and and that is you know. I'm not exploring. Say The techniques of art and crafts or techniques of self defense in each of these archetypal vocations that I explore. I'm looking at the ritual mythology symbols and spiritual practices of each so the rituals mythologies more spiritual practices of the craftsman for example the warrior and the craftsman is important. We've already been talking about freemasonry and you know what the people like to acknowledge this on off. Freemasonry has an had enormous influence on the western Esoteric tradition. Really almost almost every modern esoteric movement from the Golden Dawn even wicker has been influenced to a great or lesser degree by Freemasonry. And of course the case because Freemasonry has still has millions of members well wide whereas you know the O. T. O. Poverty has a thousand members worldwide. I'm guessing I don't think it's much more than that. So it's minuscule in comparison and the main people who The shape these These other rites and rituals and societies Where the very often connected to freemasons all was in the selves freemasons of one sort or another including LSD crudely but the so the the the symbolism of the craftsman is important from that perspective. Learn but You know if you look back in In twins equity you find for example. The Blacksmith wasn't just a blacksmith. You'll sue was served as a kind of a priest or initiated and You Know He. He was the master of fire Just as the magician was the master of fire who could make a steam come from his body as in Tibetan lamas do today and the worry was the master of fire the of the heat of battle so they had this in connection with the crossman. Had this initiate a row. So in the the blacksmith was an initiator he knew the secrets of metal on the the the melting of metal on forging weapons ET CETERA. Which already give gave him a sort of semi divine status. And you find figure of. The blacksmith reflected for example in the the mythological figure of Thor four has a has a red beard. Sparks come out of his beard when he gets angry. His Hammer actually glows red hall which is very very suggestive of it. Being a Blacksmith Hamma special gauntlet to grip the Hammer. And there's also a piece of western embedded in his forehead and wet. Stones used to create sparks. Of course start a fire right. And so you see these sort of reflections of the crossman in in different ways in different mythologies and The the plate nest Yamba Lucas even described lamade. What we would call God as being as being the craftsman and then fast forward to freemasonry. Which again has the three at least three hundred year history off it being really as we understand it today plus another at least another three hundred years of prehistory whether it was a strange mythology connected to the stonemasons and some symbolism and some rituals and so on which freemasonry Abso- today still freemasonry Refers to Gaul or the creator of Divine. The great architect tourists the grant. Jim Fission so you know. We have all the symbolism of the craftsman Garda's craftsmen the crossman being embodied in in different Gods mythological figures and then even today with the freemasonry go out this great architecture. Gm attrition and all of the secrets of freemasonry tool through the through through a different Builders an architectural tools which have been made into symbols so the square and compasses obviously the ruler and Trowel Hammer. And so on do you. Do you have an explanation? Why it was say stone. Masonry and not. For example the blacksmiths. Why better very craft stone man has become so central in the world? Yes so if we went back maybe more than a thousand years ago for. The blacksmith would be more likely to have that sort of central. Obviously later on you have the emergence of alchemy which is sort of like Not a more of A. Modern interpretation of the blacksmith is sort of a re- rehabilitation of the blacksmith within a sort of a medic Christian type world. Obviously we've the Western countries were Christian for about a thousand years. Maybe more and of course we still are in many cases. But it's definitely it's not not not as powerful as it once laws. When Britain for example everyone would have been a Christian one point pretty much. You couldn't get you couldn't not be what you know. Why Stone Masonry why? I think it's you know it's historical really that the stonemasons became important because they were employed by the church to to build cathedrals and churches and a cathedral could take two generations or more to leave Iraq. So it was. It was a lifetime job and it was the most important thing really was being created was enormous buildings of the likes of which nothing had ever been seen like that and they must be an absolutely astounding to look at from the perspective of somebody who had never seen a building like that before people come to New York and Mar for these punter plus storey buildings imagine seeing an enormous building. When you had seen O.`Neil a tiny wooden house would fall. There would be nothing to compare it to wouldn't be. Oh that's like another building I've seen but five times as big just it would be unimaginable for many people. Do you think the fact that as most of the buildings at the time where made of woods as he does. And that's through that to macy's also had to travel and to find enough work to learn from others to register billings. Do you think that this this part has also rolled wide became stonemason? Who who was the ARCHETYPAL craftsman well? Yeah lastly historical that that it became the craft of the greatest prestige and the closest to the church but of course part of that prestige was that yes e- to to to really understand architecture and geometry you answer the a very high level level of intellect whereas maybe another crafts you would not need choirs. Developed an intellectual Quiroz developed a study of your skills such as weaving and weaving his poverty. Good and I'm not knocking it at all. It's wonderful thing. But it takes a certain amount of study to produce a tapestry and another to produce a building isn't gonNA fall down and kill people especially when when you're doing Making domed roofs in this thing. Which isn't you know incredibly complicated yesterday. Did Rica obviously require travel when it requires a lot of study and therefore it undoubtedly introduced all kinds of other ideas and symbolic ideas into the building as well? Yeah To round up the question of the craftsman I mean the second chapter in all those three main parts is related in Europe to a certain type of initiation. I'm going to come back to address later on. But the second chapter in first part about craftsman this called MNEMONIC initiation. That's right and the first thread sleep because it says at its most basic level initiation is involved with memory. Now you wouldn't think or I wouldn't have thought of a space and I also see that emergence of MNEMONIC techniques in initiation over the last five or ten years. Suddenly you speak about that again. Of course because it's an old tradition. Can you expand on that a little bit shy so Yeah to just mention techni. We've just been talking about Architecture so on One technique. I believe it says she from Ancient Greece and Rome bows also used during the renaissance period as well and maybe before that Of Memory and that was it you mentally constructs an image of a building And then you would locate different ideas different parts of the building and you could mentally walk through the building and and remember each of the things that you had to remember it would enable you to have a much greater capacity to remember things so for example. If you're giving a thirty minute speech you could. You could place each of the parts of the speech a different points in the building at the door. One Room another room maybe around the room and this kind of thing and you could walk through your speech mentally in each prop would remind you of what you had to say technique memory but under our memo devices in in in In initiation so in freemasonry the tracing bullet which is a painting which has deep symbolism of the of the degree painted on it and that helps the person giving the lecture on the initiate hearing the lecture to remember the symbolism to remember what's being taught but beyond that it's not just the memory of a son things it's the memory of the spiritual and the divine Mooch..

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

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17:08 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"And magician angel reveals to us how these archetypes represent the three successive stages of spiritual growth in the life of an individual together. We will explore in this interview. Those stages and how Angel is interpreting them. Ancient Millar is well known. Lecturer on initiation is oh terrorism and on freemasonry using three archetypes in those three steps of course reminds us a little bit of freemasonry and we also discuss that question the beginning but very quickly we go much further than that into a very universal interpretation of angels sorts after a little more than thirty minutes into the interview. I will come back to you with a little usable break but for now let us welcome Angel. Millar here comes the interview. It is a great pleasure to welcome here on the thaw service but gusts today. Somebody who already once was a guest on one of those shows and we are saying welcome to Angel Manar from his New York and Angel. A hello you have been with us in. November twenty seventeen. Believe it or not. That long sounds like yesterday. Yeah that's right. It feels like a about a year ago but I guess it's been a lot longer. Thank you good to have you and I need to mention that once again here now that you are wonderful artists who also designed the backgrounds and Typos and logos of the website of armies. In one of your other lives did that. Yeah thank you very grateful. And it's still look stunning and everybody likes it. So thank you once again great. Oh you're most welcome. I'm glad I could help. When you setting up the podcast? Exactly you actually were starting season two back then and today. We are now in the middle of season four already well before we delve into what brought together actually which is new book which has just a very few days. That are very proud that we are out only five days after your book has been released books. Three stages of INNOC- attic spirituality it. Before we go into that angel let let us know what has happened over the last two and a half years. How has your cult and Terry live evolved? What's happened there? Yes so obviously? A lot of time has been dedicated to editing the book and writing the book. I'm writing other books which will come out. Probably in a few years but In terms of my own practices I'm still involved with martial arts and freemasonry and I have my own schedule of meditation and shocker meditation and various other things as well and you're also a speaker who is. Oh yes quite quite a bit around the US especially over the last couple of years. It's been really great. Have been able to visit quite a lot of. Us states helping to Los Angeles Massachusetts a few times Utah. I mean to Dallas and some other places as well so it's been very nice and it's great to see different parts of the US all of which are very different actually absolutely impervious or even in their masonic practices. I think quite different from yeah. That's right yeah and New Jersey is right next to New York and even I've into a couple of lodges in New Jersey and the practices are actually really quite different and I was very surprised And you see in terms of practice. And in terms of the occult interests. Let's put it that way you see cleared development over the last two and a half years has that evolved into certain direction or how you do see that. Yeah so let's say. The freemasonry has changed actually very dramatically over the last three and I think that was always an interest in the military and symbolism and spirituality freemasons you know a few years ago joy and say twenty ten twenty thirty forty years ago joined when you know a lot of guys were more interested in just getting together buddies and stuff like that and knife myths right right and I think the guys that stuck around were the ones who are interested in symbolism and mythology and so on but because of the atmosphere they never felt free to express their interest in that very weirdly but over the last three years. It's really really become a big focus. the different masonic cons or conventions of being out all over the country. Now there's an Esoteric Kahn. Which is run by freemasons full freemasons focusing more on the esoteric on Maybe a little bit on the supernatural and and that really has really helped to shift focus towards Masonic Education Spirituality myth and related subjects Kabbah or the world of the Golden Dawn. And this kind of thing. So that's really become a big focus and at the same time over the last few years I think now you know the guys of the joining on most of them are interested in you know as I say symbolism with all the rituals spirituality a mysteries and so on and so forth and you know they might be a little rough around the edges their understanding of these things. But that's kind of to be expected but that's definitely much more of a focus or the very least the focus would be you'd self-improvement or something like that and even the supernatural you mentioned so that's yeah yeah. Yeah I'm going to be speaking at Esoteric calm this year. I'm going to give a little bit of an introduction to it so in energy and in alchemy. Thanks so that'd be quite different for that. That world gray on the is reflection of what happens in the world in general or is it particular to that part of of of society who is more attracted to masonry or is that is that new interest and even practice in the arts as I like to call them is more common a common issue. You know. I don't know I mean it must reflect. Something was going on in society but yeah I don't know why there is such a big change. I mean maybe because freemasonry itself is changing and being much more open about this interest. And maybe that's helping to attract guys with like like mines but If you read transactions from the QC which was the earliest Masonic Research Lodge which started in the eighteen ninety s if you read the transactions of the earlier. Qc's you find a lot about Rosa crucial drudgery kinds of things and it was a focus and You know the society's Rosa Cruciani et most famously McGregor Mathis and a William in West. Virginia was the time when Matthews was still a mason. So maybe that's right. Yeah yeah no sure well because I mean of course we wear now in DC introduction speaking quite a bit about freemasonry but and when we read the title of New Book just three years of experience of course to those of us who know about masonry are who are Mason's. We might think immediately of that right as well when I read your butts exactly when I read your book very quickly and I'm glad that is the case actually repulsively very quickly you realize that this book does not talk about. Masonry talks Seattle experience which is something much more than than freemasonry. Yes that's right and so my first question that I have about this book before we delve into how you put two sections together and how a what you want to say with it and could you give us your definition of initiation what what does initiation as such as word as a fan. What does that mean to you? Yeah well as you knew initiation means to begin done within the world of the SEO or spirituality it means really to begin on a path of Learning and studying and practicing certain techniques or studying certain ideas and philosophical ideas and traditions the would unveil let's say unveiled the reality of the divinity unveil the sort of underlying H- divine nature of the world right and four individual who who gets initiated most young the initiation as such is linked to to an event right right at the same time instant beginning of a path. So yeah how do you marry those two ideas? Yeah so you mean the ideas of apothecary event. Exactly is initiation really just that a day when you first handshake whatever or or is it more. It's definitely more so the the event that you're talking about typically is some kind of ritual ride some kind of ceremonial initiation. And obviously this is a big thing in freemasonry but as well the golden dawn the order temporary oriented with modern. Pretty much everything In Esoteric in the modern world within the modern let's say western Esoteric tradition some kind of initiate ritual and often certain levels of ritual certain degrees. So yeah the the ritual subsets you off on the path they giving you certain things to think about and contemplate and maybe certain things to do maybe more a court order that might be practicing meditation techniques or certain rituals by yourself Within a masonic context that might be a refining your behavior on a day-to-day basis. And then you have to keep practicing these thinking about reflecting on the nature of the divine as well Yeah absolutely yeah. So it's a process little something rose. Yeah Yeah Well I think brings us right into the middle of what What you're talking here already. When I I have to appear in front of me and when I see titled The picture on the cover I know this is not done by the artist. Who writes the book? I don't know if you'd have to but it's an interesting approach because we have nine seven stars here. Then we have human being in the middle in the position of what we know from the Pentagram with stretched arms open legs and then we have asked three around three L. chemical symbols of Sulfur Macri and sold so this is a very complex. Symbol that you have here on the cover. How does that symbol? How do you interpret the symbol in relation to what incomes in Dubuque? Yeah well I guess the oddest as she interpreted the book and made that interpretation Visually Yeah so I know just mentioned that. The subtitle of the book is Craftsman Warrior Magician so those are the three archetypal vocations that I explore in different ways. But the one thing I relate the three hour chemical elements of sulfur. Sort of mercury to the to those Vocations but yeah that's right. The cover is Is Very intriguing. I like it seems to be some sort of radiating and then going into the figure and interpreting the the cover it seems to be the the figure is drawing on the end that you give the three out chemical elements or nor the craftsman warrior in the magician and becoming empowered. And maybe transforming in some way. I like the beach very much. Yeah almost like meditative you can use for meditation. That's right that's right interesting so you you just said that the three stages as you call them are in your denomination. Crafts Warrior Magician should we? Maybe if that's all right for you before we go and a little bit observe and discuss the three stages would you like to explain to us? What made you choose those names? Those archetypes as you show how you how you position them into the development. Yeah I don't feel that I already chose them. I feel it had to be those three. And and that's because there is a historical precedent for the English three and that is the the philology Georgia's Duma zeal Claimed during the twentieth century that Indo European Society was in ancient period obviously walls. Each society was divided into the craftsman warrior and magician magician. Meaning let's say could range from the Shaman. All the way through to like village elder or spirtual guy. Let's say but that's how he believed that. The societies were divided. And I think that's correct but think you can also find essentially that division it pretty much in all ancient tribal tribal societies. Yeah that's right so another historian of Indo European Society says the these three Vocations may form stages in a person's life and as a youth someone will become a craftsman. And maybe that would be working in the fields. For example. Maybe that would be helping parents in the blacksmiths forge or something like that and You know we forget that. Yeah because people one hundred years ago and Saudi a thousand years ago it didn't go to school for Sixteen eighteen twenty years they will. They were Beginning work when they were five or six helping that parents may be in in the field or in the forge or something like that and then when everybody got stronger and it could be a little bit more independent. What would become sort of full worker? And so they so they would start out their lives as a craftsperson then when their body was stronger become a warrior and then when their body became too aged for you know hunting fighting and so on would become a magician or Alatorre spiritual guide of of the Tribe and would be one of the people who knew the rituals and knew the myths and legends and the ways of that society right..

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

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08:45 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"You kinda give support. That is indeed really helpful for us. Go on the patron website and look for thought. Herbie's podcast there subscribe for a one off donation you can do so by clicking on the donate button on the source. Hermes website and there is also a direct link to our Patrie on page so no excuse their friends no seriously we would really have you as one of our patrons thank you okay my friends. It's now high time to delve into this episode. You are already used to listening to us. Okay then you know what comes next. Yes that piece of music what I found for you. Today are three very different pieces of music. Different in style and length. Well actually the first one that we're going to hear would be much longer than what we will hear. You all probably know that music from the very well known Mickey Mouse Movie. The sorcerer's apprentice which in fact itself is an excerpt from Taza. The original music for the sorcerer's apprentice is by French. Composer pulled. The performance of the original full score lasts all those fifteen minutes and already in Fantasma into a short debate but for today I found a very original and interesting classical orchestral version of this piece which is exactly six minutes of length and I thought that would be perfect match for our show today. Okay so we're going to hear that six minute highlight version of poll because the sorcerer's Apprentice. I the piece has as you probably know being inspired by a poem of German poets. Goethe and what he has to say in that poem everybody who wants to become a magician should really consider. Let's listen together to the German orchestra. The bamberger SINFONIETTA and their version off to saucers apprentice. book Yup sorcerer's apprentice by. Paul duca performed in a special six minute version by the Bamberger SINFONIETTA. Angel Millar has already been on this show once in November. Seventeen at the time we were also talking about his personal background and his projects and thoughts that he shared with us then. Only two other people have so far reappeared. A second time on this podcast. One was Thomas Carlson and the other Tobias Church and now it's Angel's return on the show if I really like what.

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

Thoth-Hermes Podcast

02:33 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Is February. Sixteen Twenty Twenty and this is episode seven of Season Four. Our guest in this show will be UK board author Angel. Millar who now lives in New York. He has recently published a book called three stages of initiate experience. And we will be talking mostly about this book and therefore the name and title of this episode is initiation. I'm very glad to tell you that. Since the beginning of this year and season we have once again being able to greatly increased number of listeners. Thank you all for being with us and helping to achieve that. If the first time that you're listening to this show I wish you a Hartley. Welcome and hope to have you back many more times. You might want to know that you can listen to the sauce. Hermes podcast on many different podcast outlets like apple. Podcasts GOOGLE PODCASTS. Stitcher spreaker spotify iheartradio and many others. So choice is really yours. You can also find us on Youtube with special thoughts. Hermes channel there but know that for the time being an audio only version as well if you want to get some additional information do about my guests or two topics we discuss and if you want to give me some feedback which I would really appreciate. You might want to go on the website of the thermes podcast which is www sauce. Hermes DOT COM the H. O. E. R. M. E. S. dot com for this additional information. You will find the show notes and all the necessary links to research further for communication. You will be able to leave me a voicemail on the website or to use the contact form that we provide there. Of course there is always the possibility to send me an email on info at sauce. Hermes DOT COM and visit us on facebook or twitter..

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

Thoth-Hermes Podcast

04:13 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"For the same in advanced technology turning the scientific and engineering in laboratories again into sacred spaces and altars dedicated to the spiritual upliftment of all will that is a a great and noble intention in my mind now again i there's too much material in in his book for me to really commented comment on all of it <hes> but i i'd like to leave you with a little taste of my own article in the book about the initiations of sama threes in ancient greece. I think it's important to understand the way that a location and mythology. She and a ritual are all put together in a way that has a very transformative limited effect on a human being now. This is still accomplished today using using very similar formula and it is incumbent upon us to research this disc to recognize it to understand it in order that when we go through initiations or we perform them uh that we are including every significant and potentially transformative element just whilst as if this was an al chemical laboratory you know an al chemical flask where we're taking the ingredients leonson all putting them in in order that these catalysts will affect a change on the substance in the flask ask which which is ultimately us. I really cannot stress enough that the way the initiation functions all of the ingredients that go into it are so important and in many ways can determine how effective the potential outcome may be and i think again this is a book that if if one is interested in the esoteric whether you're a freemason or not this is a book look. You should read guinness available from lewis masonic the art and science of initiation. I'm so excited that it's come out and i'm really thrilled with the level of scholarship research writing leading the way. It's all expressed all for the highest purpose. There is something in this book for just about everyone if you're interested in these subjects. I don't think i could recommend this book highly enough. Jedidiah french and angel millar have really don a tremendous job and i commend lewis masonic for supporting their vision and bringing this forward so with it we all may benefit <music> <music> in chapter three. It's a great pension.

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

Thoth-Hermes Podcast

04:20 min | 1 year ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Thank you for joining me for greg's choice and today i'm going to discuss a very recent book from lewis. Masonic entitled the art and science of initiation which was compiled and edited by jedidiah french in angel millar <hes> just just last month. I must confess prior to beginning the review that <hes> this will not and cannot be an objective review of the book because i am one of the contributing authors having submitted an essay say or article on the subject of the mysteries of initiation in ancient greece at sameth race now. I really really like this book. A lot and i think it's very timely in fact it might be overdue but i think jedidiah french and angel malar have have done great work in putting this together along with all of the contributors which includes <hes> angel millar himself off richard smalley susannah ackerman adam kendall myself timothy scott joscelyn godwin jeffrey jeffrey s kupperman cr dunning junior herbie brennan mark booth richard kitchen ski and donald tyson now that is quite a lineup of authors even if you exclude me a these these authors are what i would consider pretty heavy hitters and i'm honored to be among them and included in the book now us. I think it's really interesting design and the intention behind the book. It's not academic and yet it's not strictly speculative and based on experience either. It's a a bit of a mix and i think that the way that they did this is really really really useful because it it brings these two sorts of approaches the scholarly approach and the experiential approach or speculative approach which is going to be it more emotional and less intellectual. These are both important and to put these together well aw only then. Can you have a complete picture and now i want to quote from the introduction was written written by jedidiah french because i think his words are really important and form the foundation of of what he's trying to present here now he says in the secluded world of masonic literature and opinion officiers here's apparent between those who value experiential romantic esoteric wisdom teachings and those who privilege strictly academic and heavily intellectual form scholarship drawing on historical research and forensic evidence we all know brethren on either side of this divide all with valid reasons for upholding their respective positions it is therefore our intention to bring both interpretations of masonry together in one volume and place them into conversation. There is something gainful in this attempt not the least of which is a broader and more complete picture of the projects subject matter ritual initiation..

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

Thoth-Hermes Podcast

09:55 min | 3 years ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"In your last answer. I have to take you up on that. And you said very briefly the word men who and let me read. Liberators short a few phrases from followings from your side, which come from February twenty six when did you create for lungs when to start it? I think that was when it was created because it says here there is a spiritual crisis in the modern world yet. Nowhere does disappear more. So than among men leaving aside Satistics that put men at ninety percent or above for suicides imprisonment and combat deaths. It is cleared that less and less often. Do men have any examples of healthy vascular entity by which to measure and to improve themselves. I find that as a man very very interesting subject again difficult subject nowadays to talk about and a bit. I have an impression that the question of manhood, even word is good and often like that. It's become a bit less important on felling stately. Is this a wrong impression or do? You have a reason for that. Yes. So let me take that loss. Pop fast. So yeah, it's it's pretty become a little less important in the early on. I was actually writing with with a couple of guys. And I think that because we will man with a same sort of outlook that was maybe slightly emphasized. But I think even then actually it was more of a sort of. Maybe a slightly aggressive confrontation with the worst aspects of the modern world to maybe had more of a masculine field and than the naturally being totally about manhood. Oh masculinity though. The something I'm interested in still move right about occasionally. Yeah. I should say. Envision that. Most of the redes- perfectly are men just because of the subjects that I that. I call even the spirituality as one of the might unite look at it from some the spectrum, which is unusual. But nevertheless, you know, I do think the some women reading it. And actually some of the best comments about this. I. Can tell you. Yeah. So it's kind of curious, but in regards to you manhood, will let's slate a step back to the idea of to climb the mountain west go from the so that that is mostly associated with with a. The thing. Also, the Spangler who would Spangler. Whom you probably know it was an early twentieth century. And and he tends to be associated today with more right wing movements. The, you know, because he was regarded as a philosopher pessimism. Oh, it's getting worse. And I it was essentially conservative thing, but he has actually influenced some interesting thing 'cause not least and perhaps quite surprisingly Camille paalea, who's an outspoken say old fashioned feminist, sunny, Woolworth wealth listening to on wealth reading. Style of writing a luminous. It's really excellent. But yeah, so spring influence tire, and you influenced another German in cuckoo's, gene, gaps. And gene gifts has has a sort of response to your Spangler and says, no, you know, Spangler says the cultures. Like plants they're essentially organic on they have roots. They flower, which is essentially they lost by expressing that primordial idea symbol, and then they wither and die and the we had now and in the dying face. And so guests says actually it may not be the such that the coaches just die like that. But the, but the we're going through different stages of consciousness will a reaching of a more spiritual heights of consciousness, and so this then in a sense his his response to Spangler. So it's a little more positive take on the there are definitely endings and plateaus in the but. To ever gone to men, and you know, I don't think we should sugar coat the poss because oh being kinds of horrible things for throughout the centuries. But, but I, but I think the in is true to say probably in every classical civilization on every tribal coach the survived any amount of time until you know, there was a tradition of initiating boys into manhood in a women goals into women womanhood as well. And and you're that involved telling them, the, you know, the religious secrets of the tribal the coach what which which you know, in time gave them a sense of belonging. And meaning, and I'm pompous, and why things the way they do again with with teach them some kind of skills as well such as hunting all opening able to fight web. Opens and so on even up until you know, hundred years ago, the extended family were, you know, your grandchildren, and parents and grandparents living together on the one roof was not unusual with today, we've become incredibly atomised. And now, it's, you know, one child to to, you know, the two parents who live away from the grandparents in the best case scenario. Actually, we have become a cultural the tries to entertain youths Arava the numb than educating them into into meaning, and you know. You can kind of see ready Connie, the the young men in particular have real problems in will why they here watch. What should they be doing? And you know, what is what is noble behavior full them? You know, what is men that? I think that many men and in many women when they hear that would, you know, so maybe slightly on diff- not repulsed by because they know manner responsible for all evils further. You know, why is the young men taking drugs and acting badly is not because of the influence of men at the Ono saying, it's the influence of women. But, but you know, if you look at the prison statistics as she actually was only the overwhelming majority of of male prison inmates. Did not have a father growing up had an abusive father or the best, you know, emotionally strange father. I think more. Or more. We we will grow up with a father. That's one of the you know, I've completely absent of is just emotionally apps in awe paps abuse. And it was very little. We can you know, sadly that most men who young men will be able to learn from the office. And and then the, you know, they they may try to rectify this by coming volt gangs all something thing and even the retreat, everything credibly superficially today, you need when you look. You know, the CIA is terrorists. You got in in Europe, Paula quite a lot. At least over the last few months. I think though, this sort of suffering will will western people suffering a sentence. It's it's a sense of not belonging of sort of being stranded in the world and an wallowed of meaninglessness. You you have the routine you go to work and come home. You you don't quite what it's full and that was on so in in in a tribal coach. And I think it's not that I want people together onces, you know. On says handed to them because I do, but I do want people to have some kind of. Say motions environment where they can at least on the questions of themselves or other people. And you know, for me, possibly I have to say, it's it's being putting myself in the situation of being involved with three masonry, but also being involved with mosh lots. And maybe this is a good point to say that I, you know, on more than one occasion, I've compared freemasonry cook to Confucianism, and that's how she the way that I look for masonry. I don't look at it as kind of the. Kohl address as some people do a for me. It's basically a western form of Confucianism where you know, Confucianism freemasonry emphasize ritual, self development, and and the in the community the community of confusions, of course, offering Masons, and that's how you develop a south. But

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

Thoth-Hermes Podcast

04:24 min | 3 years ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"So yes, I am interested in saying what other people generally the say, that's absolutely true in dead on through gives me perfect transition angel too. Questions and subject that I want to talk to you about today, which is your wonderful website followings. Because also there you are treating unusual and incomforta- subjects I would say because and you've just gave us to reason why because you're interested in subjects that have not been spoken about at least not in depth yet. And they are often the ones that are in comfortable auntie. Yeah. That's right. You know, again when it comes to articles, and I'm sure you've seen this as I have. I think we all have many many times, you know, there's a the some some event that gets into the news. And then journalists will usually say something condemning it. Oh, it's just the worst thing ever. And then they'll be ten articles of in all the newspapers in journals almost identical who is really bad. And then after that, you get another twenty two cool saying, it's even worse than that. Because everybody's essentially writing writing the same article, but then trying to make even more than it was before the not adding any more information just more more sort of wealth that so yeah. Yeah. And it's almost like a sort of addiction that we keep we keep need to need to write the same thing over and over again, but just more with more and more drum. And consequently in won't what's the point in reading off of the these journals on newspapers, I mean, you know, exactly what it's going to say before you even look to that. And so I try not to do that. And I tried to write about things that are uncomfortable and say things that are on comfortable, but not. In regards to my website fame likes not because I want to be a thorn in people's sides at. Because I think they're the people today are doing many things wrongly because this web top in sort of emotional fashion. And you know, it's very well to you know, to go on Twitter, install screaming and things like that. And and having people, you know, liking, and you've got two thousand likes whatever on social media, and that must be incredibly gratifying. I'm sure that you know, I I don't think that that's a healthy way of living. And I think that we're actually becoming more and more unhealthy in our mentality yet, chilly, more more tribal, and hysterical and moving further away from the truth. So you know, what I try to do is to remind people. There are actually the things in life that good and things that are bad, and you should stick more or less to to what is good and helpful improve your own life because you know. Moralizing to everybody else or hating the political science that you are not on is is only worthless. And when it comes to politics, the left and riots, actually create each other that couldn't exist without each other, quite frankly, and and in my thing is most of the people who are in that are actually just doing just creating they will ever ever soul, which will be non by the way. So so I encourage people to to improve themselves and and way to live three dimensional life and that and that's difficult. And if you can start doing that, you might actually have some things were saying to other people and is true. You won't convert a million people that that is true. So you won't get this sort of social media satisfaction unit. Gonna do that. Anyway. So you probably will influence a few people's lives of positivity. And I think if you can do. That then you've done more than ninety nine point nine percent of the population. Quite

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

Thoth-Hermes Podcast

04:12 min | 3 years ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Read. Only come close to the indepth study that you do here. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. It's curious because there is actually a biography of Quilliam out now, and it does mentioned nation orders alliance freemasonry, but it's literally in just two sentences. It's not not a big part of it at all women. That's knowing summation at all. So. You mentioned when you get and when he stepped into sufism best way you put it. And before that he yes. When can say, he's the founder of what this cold nowadays traditionalist, do you think that traditional both India masonic and into board general philosophic way and the link of masonry to Islam have some common issues. Okay. So the connection between freemasonry and Islam and traditional ISM does stilling we Islam and masonry work through traditionalist or are completely separate phenomenon. Yes. So it's completely separa- so traditionalism and here I'm talking about traditional listen with a capital T was essentially founded by a renegade on an it's in a way. The kind of Esa teric Doke Trine about the religions and Ammann's relationship to the sacred. So again on the postulates for the for example, the other there was once a primordial tradition that was revealed by God on the this tradition, essentially became expressed a across the world in in the major religion such as a so Christianity, Judaism Islam abode is Amon Hinduism, maybe one or two others. So another another fairly standard. A belief of traditionalist is the there's a kind of hierarchy of a of Assa Terek knowledge. So the things that can be re revealed in stages and have different levels of meaning which is a fatty standard to any SO tar tradition. But but because gain on says the. The major world religions of the recipients of this primordial tradition, although it's Xpress differently. In each one means the unlike the cultists who might dress draw together from different traditions, create his own religion gain. All let's say though, that was absolutely terrible. And the while you have to do is you have to essentially, adopt. The practices of one of the religions one of the major religions, and you would understand from a traditionalist perspective. So you could go through of the researcher Moonies of of Christianity on praying old on the same with his Llamas. Well, the U unlike the other believe what understand okay, this is actually a manifestation of the primordial tradition. So you have a slightly different take on that. Even though you're essentially going through the motions and. Gain on also believe the the world was essentially in a state of decline, spiritually speaking. So it's the opposite idea of progressivism. So, you know, the progressivism of the political doctrine, essentially says that everything is getting better old of the time with regressing into the future and the man essentially can change things to make things better on that. That's what we need to do all the time, whereas gain Almasy that's completely false. And the things are actually getting more and more materialistic, and we'll moving further and further into the quote, unquote, collie Ugo, the dock age from a spiritual perspective, and yeah. So

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

Thoth-Hermes Podcast

05:56 min | 3 years ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Find what's interesting and a noble about them. Even if I have reservations about them oral don't think what they did was good. I still wanna find. What is interesting noble? And I think that's where you can actually write a book, I think it would be. Absolutely horrible experience. Horrible read to any other way. So now, you're kind of taking half of money as question, but. No. But you bring me Dan properly. I was going to ask you. Well, it is a difficult subject. What did you make start working on it? Nobody has so far. Why did you how did you come across the subject? Maybe for those listeners will have not yet read that book. Maybe you could just give him very quick overview to a teaser central speak. And then tell us why did you come across that subject? Yeah. Well, before I started researching there were a few different things that I was aware off among which. I was aware of contemporary anti anti freemasonry an anti masonic propaganda in wall. What is generally attempt Islamism who can be a bit sort of little accurate about that later again to that subject? But so it was aware of that. So very negative aspect. But it was also, of course, aware of things such as the the Shriners, which is generally seen as a kind of fun loving policy going for tons of the that is of open only to to freemasons, and those those who don't know it's essentially an American phenomenon, and it's it's well known for their street, parades and stuff like that especially for for few decades ago, but is also influenced by some Islamic mythology. It's wall. So I was I was aware of that. I was aware of the rival group cool to the grotto all the mystic order of veiled prophets of the enchanted realm. Which is another organization, which is only open to freemasons and is influenced by Reuss Lee. Speaking is influenced by a hush and Islam ick mythology as well. And then of course, you have people like Rennie getting on. You may be aware of this is the founder of traditionalism he converted to quote, unquote, moved into sufism late in life. A moved and spent his last years in Cairo. But when he was young he was involved with with the also fee, and he was also involved with a fringe masonry as well. So it was aware of of these connections and. All of these connections between Islam and freemasonry roughly speaking, and so I like that was something there. I don't quite know how one about researching it, but I suppose as I did I came across more and more things, for example, I came across Williams. Name Henry, William Quilliam, who is laid a shakeup Duke, William, and I had a hunch the he would be a freemason. He will. He was one of the first converts to his Lomb in Britain. This is in the late nineteen on nineteenth century, which is pretty early. And it just struck me that the time was right for someone like that to be a freemason because anyone that was involved in the unusual, spirituality, which would have been considered as what was nearly always either free may snow or connected to freemasons. And so I found I found out more about him. He was mentioned at a lot of obscure masonic journals. They managed to come across those quite som expl-. Oration to be done. I should say the not only was he convert his Lamin very act to promoting as Lomb in the British Isles and very politically active in favor of Muslims in the British empire. Somewhat strangely. He was also very involved with not only freemasonry, but with the this Weedon bold, Ian right of freemasonry again, which is another fairly for energy a riot. I don't believe is being worked by anyone anymore. Maybe somewhere or the. Whereas I know which is based on the teachings of manuals Weeden book the Swedish mystic, and he was also involved in the set by which is sometimes described as a attend trick Hindu society. But again, it seems to be influenced by freemasonry, and I'm sure those no no sexual and you'll even formed his own his own right, which was based on freemasonry, cool, the ancient order of zuzu mites and order as well as written about in various obscure masonic journals for from the period as far as I know. I'm the only posted over in about that any Lang's. That's not a member of the riot since since it was going. The audio the post I believe it's really written about it was it was clearly in fact, and he probably wrote one of the rituals as well. So I mean, something like that is hard to come across. But it's also I mean, no one is written about that really surprise. I know so about sure because also researched off dry found your broken. I haven't found any book in any of the four languages sti- read.

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

Thoth-Hermes Podcast

04:48 min | 3 years ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Start. Here comes the interview angel Manar has been on my wish based of guests for the spot costs for some time. I I came across him when I stumbled over his website failings a year and a half ago, and I was very interested in fascinated by his use and also by his courage to address issues and questions, which are sometimes very difficult to tackle. Later on. I also discovered that he was a very interesting author namely with books about freemasonry. He's third book that compass sense to crush, and describing the rarely discussed and often unknown relationship between freemasonry and Islam has been a huge success and has been issued in the second revised and slightly expanded edition a few weeks ago. So this was the moment angel and I finally got together for this interview. In the first part, we will talk about demand himself on freemasonry, and he's three books. I should also mention here that it was angel who designed to beautiful backgrounds and logos for thoughts. Hermes website earlier this year. Thanks again for angel. As always the interview will be split in two parts, and I will play some using in between. And as I mentioned before today's interview is a bit longer than usual. Happy over eighty minutes all together. So the break will come after approximately fourteen minutes. Enjoy my talk with angel Millar. Welcome to thought Hermes podcast angel Millar. It is a great pleasure to have you finally here as an guest on this podcast people who go on my website regularly should already know you because the beautiful artwork that day. Find dare from you. Thank you again for helping with that. And also, your other artwork can be seen on the arts speech. So ancient welcome. I'm glad that you're finally with us here tonight. Thanks very much. It's a really nice to be speaking to you at last. Thank you engine. Maybe we should start by letting people know a bit about your personal background if you want so you'll live in New York today. I know that. But where do you come from as European your little accent? Sounds more familiar to me than the New York accent. So why is that? Yes. So so originally. I was born in an I grew up in England actually in the southeast of London. And then I came he came to New York here when I was in my early twenties. That's where I live although we did live in Canada for a few years as well. Right. So you traveled English speaking world a little. Yeah. And so d western is Terry tradition, as I know is something that seems to be very close to your heart and mind, and you have a wonderful website, which is called followings. But we'll talk about that later, but beyond that beyond being a freemason as well. You're also an artist and visual artist. How did that happen? How was your training? How did that all come together? Right. Well, most people know me, and I think we'll discuss this. But most people know me actually is an author because I've written three books on the on the subject to freemasonry and esotericism. Yes, I also am an artist, and I should say I think it will come up again that I personally believe that we need to develop different sides of our selves in accordance with what might be called a classical education. Where usually men developed say the martial arts, but also development sells fruit through poetry, oh, Allegra fee and different aspects. So so my main my main focus is actually writing. But I do I do some some painting and some odd in some some designers while I actually studied in London at a couple of different colleges originally intended to become a fine artist. But I don't I don't have that much time for these days. But

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"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

Thoth-Hermes Podcast

08:21 min | 3 years ago

"angel millar" Discussed on Thoth-Hermes Podcast

"Who? Being. So these podcast. Welcome to the world of the western Esa teric tradition. Hello, friends and listeners sauce Hermes podcast. Finally back today on November twenty six twenty seventeen to start our season. Two of interesting. Hopefully, exciting twelve few editions of our podcast about to western is Teri tradition, which means that is teric occult and paranormal subjects are are things. As always show is centered around to interview who's an interesting personality from that surrounded by news, reviews and music my name eastern dolls. I am you coast, and I'm talking to you from the outskirts of the lovely capital of Austria. Vienna. As always I would like to invite you to also visit our website WWW thoughts. Her me start. Come. That is T H O T H E R M E S dot com. There. You can find the show notes to decision, but also all the articles from the news and reviews section all the previous episodes of our season one and two special editions. You can listen to Thermes podcast either directly from the website also on apple podcasts. Stitcher Buell berry, spreaker, Android and many other pulled costs services who more and more. Choose to present our offer on their sites. These weeks featured guest on fos, Hermes, ease UK born and U S living author lecturer freemason visual artist and deep thinker angel Millar. I'm sure you are going to enjoy. These interview angel has also chosen the music that we are going to play during this show. And now some feedback. Thanks to everyone who has given me feedback over the last few weeks. This is not only appreciated but also really necessary for me in order to develop thoughts Hermes podcast further. And in an interesting way. Season one has until now had over sixteen thousand listeners and for a podcast, which only started in mid April. I think this is not so bad. Please carry on listening and coming back to me. You can either Email me on info at salt. Termi start come go on the website and use the contact form or voice mail there. Or of course, us Twitter and Facebook where I think it is easy to find Thoth Hermes podcast as well. Thanks a lot. I'm also very happy about your reactions to our special soaraway Halloween edition. This was a first test of a different format, which I will try to present on the main season holidays, and I'm encouraged by your interest and feedback. So I think you can expect another special edition for winter solstice just before Christmas. And I hope you will like it just as much or even better than the last one. But in order to make these special edition real special again, I do need your support and your contribution. So please, send me your ideas and texts or recordings of texts and music, so they can be part of our special winter solstice edition. Well, season two should have started already two weeks earlier as I had promised. Dose of you who follow me on Facebook, no debt, by computer course, on which I'd all the interviews, writing editing, etc. Gave up after almost six years of service. I had to order new one and surprise surprise. When did you want rive? It's turned out that it was not functioning properly. So lengthy discussions with apple. And then luckily day decides to send me another new one. But that of course, took another five days also to arrive through all those into media operations, my backup got damaged and I had to restore things partly manually. Luckily, all the crucial data is not on a local backup of somewhere in the cloud. But all of this took lots of time. And as you can imagine I'm using my computer also for my day job, which caused delay on what I have to do there too. The good lesson was that sometimes you just have to give into what happens to you and deal with it. I did a lot more eating those days without the computer. But the bad side for you listeners was of course that the start of our new season. Here was delayed. But now, I'm not long you're going to rent about this here. We are again. Too small consequences of the delay. I need to report. In fact, I wanted to review two to Hermes website for the star of the new season as well. And I wanted to start special membership editions on each new moon starting this November. Well, this will have to wait that I kinda would work over Christmas. So please expect new beauty on the website sometime. Very early January and the first membership edition will be for the first new moon of the coming year twenty eighteen on January seventeen to be precise. Yetter thing I adapted in order to bring these episode to you finally is that I crapped today's news and review section. It will be back on our next episode. Number two, of course, which hopefully will not take two full weeks to produce and bring us back in a more regular schedule. Also, the interview with angel are today for so interesting that it got a bit longer than usual. So you will have a nice episode number one of the season. I hope. We thought food or do let's start.

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