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This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy chef this past week. He sixty kicked off its twelfth season on ESPN the show goes back to two thousand seven for most of its history. It was a monthly show. But for the last two years, it's been a weekly show on Sunday mornings, nine o'clock eastern time who stood by yours truly in that that guy. Bob Lee, who's taken a long vacation. He calls it a sabbatical. It's really a vacation. He says he's coming back in April. I I'm not holding my breath. We welcome to the show. Now. It's always interesting when you get to interview your boss, the executive producer of e sixty a man who's won about forty seven national sports EMMY awards, but who's counting my good friend. Andrew Tennant, Andy. How are you? Hello. Jeremy I'm holding my breath speak into the microphone. Okay. I know. This isn't what you normally do. But why don't why don't we speak into the microphone? That's make this easy for the producers. Okay. I know you're a visual guy. It's a visual medium television e- sixties about production values, but this is audio east sixties back this past week and the season premiere we had a story about parkland about Marjory stoneman Douglas high school in parkland Florida, and it's football team trying to cope in the aftermath of the horrific school shooting took place a year ago this week on February fourteen twenty eighteen that was a story that in many ways is emblematic of what e- sixty is done shorts. A story about sports. But it's also not a story about sports. It's also story that required a full year's worth of reporting and producing from Martin co two Bosch, and in particular, I was the reporter. But most of the work is as is usually the case. And you'd be the first to say that is done by the. Juicer obviously there was an anniversary this week. But why did why did e sixty choose to tell this story about parkland? I think for us. It's about yes. We work for a sports network. Yes. Where a sports show, but you know, our responsibility is to go out there and find stories that are compelling and are just about life where there's a lesson to be learned where there's, you know, something that provides the next chapter to a story. You know, I think at a certain point the coverage of the parkland snowmen Douglas mass shooting ended, and you know, so people moved on cameras went away the store there were still coverage, obviously because many students have been have been politically active since then but on the ground in parkland. The when the cameras go away a lot of coverage goes and know, they weren't in the headlines anymore and no for us. It was about, you know, telling the longer story, you know, what is the next chapter. And you know, what was the sports angle for us. And, you know, here's a football coach, you know, who you know, who gave his life. To try and save children. Here's another football coast who on one day in an instant lost his assistant coach also lost his boss. The director who were both killed in the mass shooting. And you know, we wanted to know we wanted to sort of tell the story of of those relationships, but we also wanted to tell the story of you know, of of strength story of courage story of how do you move on? You know, how do you, you know, take these kids and and push forward in the aftermath of of something as horrific as that. We're speaking with Andy Tennant, the executive producer of e sixty which returned on Sunday to ESPN one at nine o'clock eastern time for its twelfth season. And as I said earlier, the show has evolved from twelve to fifteen shows year, you could find them in prime time. We never knew exactly when they were going to be on when the season was going to take place was it gonna be during football season not during football season. Now, we have. Schedule as we have had for last couple of years. We're on every Sunday morning on ESPN one. When football is not being played. And we're on ESPN two every Sunday morning when football is being played. Now, we're in the heart of it since the Super Bowl two weeks ago. How did the move from prime time to Sunday morning change the way, you think about what the show should be. That's a great question. I mean, I think for us. It was really always about having a consistent time slot. You know, I think when we were in prime time and often following sportscenter. You know, we were we were leading shows with our, you know, our signature profiles of the biggest athletes in sports, you know, bringing our fans up close and personal to these big stars in a way that you know, they they weren't being brought by our traditional studio shows. So, and that's really how we differentiate ourselves from the rest of ESPN. And also, you know from most of the sport shows that are out there when we moved the Sunday mornings. It was like we finally had the answer to the age old question for us is I love the show. I just have no idea when it's on. And so the fact that we're on in some capacity, whether it's ESPN or ESPN2. on a Sunday morning at nine o'clock. You know, it's just for us. It's a great way for people to wake up and to be told a great story that's going to set the tone for the rest of their day or for the rest of their week. And I think we really wanted to focus on you know, who is the audience on a Sunday morning versus who is the audience and a prime time during the week. And you know, what are the metrics telling us what who are the demos out there? And you know, I don't want to dive too deep into that. I it did it did force us to rethink the show a lot about you know, what was going on on Sundays. What's going on that we can set the tone for the week? Also, you know, what just provides great content that complements sportscenter which is on both before us and after us on Sundays speaking with Andy ten the executive producer v sixty and I say, you know, we go back. A long way we worked on pieces as reporter and producer twenty years ago. And if you did I'm not going to get into any specifics that might be barest to you, and you made some bad decisions about a little camera time, you gave me some things never change. But you know, we considered ourselves lucky back, then if we got seven minutes for peace that was long TV germs and somehow counter intuitively, the conventional wisdom being that the attention span of the audience gets smaller and smaller over time and digital distractions. You know, have made it harder to keep people's attention. All that are are stories. Now, we do twenty minutes stories all the time we do half hour shows on single topics all the time hours pretty frequently as well. There was a time. When people said that's too long for TV how did that philosophy evolve? Where there's almost no limit to the time allotted to a story. Listen, I I've said this before I think thirty for thirty was the game changer. In fact, you know, you asked how? You know, it was the most significant change between prime time and Sunday morning. You know, and a lot of it is the length of the pieces. You know, we we just we'd go more in depth. We dive deeper into these stories and into these characters we're on every week because we're on every week. But also, I think look when when the show was, you know, the idea for the show was originally being developed, you know, you know, a lot of executives here were were saying, you know, more story shorter stories, you know, look it within that hour to get like six or seven stories at like six to eight minutes because of the attention span that you were speaking of and, you know, then thirty for thirty figured out. It's really just the executives attention. That's right. But then, you know, thirty for thirty came along, and they were telling stories longer than anybody else at ESPN. And you know, the response was overwhelming. And we started to look at ourselves as storytellers and say, you know, you know, maybe we don't have this. Right. Maybe maybe shorter isn't better maybe longer as better. And so, you know, we really spent a lot of time think rethinking things considering the the success that our colleagues there had, and you know, and I think it's really been a game changer. It's has such such a significant impact not only on how we tell stories, but on how you know, everyone tells stories across the board sports speaking with Andy Tan, executive producer of e sixty which is on of course, every Sunday morning at nine eastern time on ESPN. It's twelfth season just underway last week with stories about Marjory stoneman Douglas high school parkland, Florida about Bob Kostas and his removal from the Super Bowl. Last year fascinating story conversation with Mark Famer, WADA. There's a lack coming up this year. There's lot coming up this season. But but more important than just promoting the show, which is kind of the concede here. I want to ask you, there's some talented people in the show. There's some great reporters or some great producers who's the best reporter on the show ably. Bob doesn't report cold he had to take a sabbatical. You needed to reflect not greatness is not a professor he needed to take months V hosts, he's a very capable our Allah, did, very brilliant. But it's I keep telling him, it's not a sabbatical. If you're not a professor, it's vacation, well, considering he's now giving the commencement speech. At Seton Hall in in may, I mean, you know, I think there is an honorary degree that goes along with says there isn't panoply. He's not shown up if they're not giving him some kind of degree. We should have him on next week to talk about this. But that was very deputy handled press. Andrew Tennant is the executive producer of e sixty back every Sunday morning on ESPN ESPN one at nine east. Eastern time. Any thank you for keeping me on the show. I appreciate it. Thank you. Jeremy was was in any way this better than a Harvard Cornell hockey game, I play obviously, I just watched those game shows laws reaction's going Cornell beats Harvard on the ice. I let's say that we worked for some Harvard guys. Don't like I'm Jeremy shop, and you can listen to new additions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN app beginning at six AM eastern time. Message and data rates may apply. When did it become ok for men to be Lazier softer fatter? We need to bring the men of this country back to greatness, and it's easier than ever with ageless male max a patent pending formula with an ingredient that helps boost your total testosterone promoting greater increases in muscle size and twice the reduction of body fat percentage that exercise alone. Plus an amazing sixty four percent increase in nitric oxide, which can be handy in the gym and in the bedroom. Take your manhood to the max by trying. Your first thirty day bottle free just pay shipping and handling not ten days not fifteen days, but a full thirty days supply free. When you text the word dash to seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine finally a formula that boosts total testosterone if you'll results with ageless male max or two in tents, please decrease us for your free bottle. Text dash to seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine text D A S H two seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine.
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"Message and data rates may apply to become okay for men to be Lazier softer fatter. We need to bring the men of this country back to greatness, and it's easier than ever with ageless male max, a patent pending formula within ingredient that helps boost your total testosterone promoting greater increases in muscle size and twice the reduction of body fat percentage that exercise alone. Plus an amazing sixty four percent increase in nitric oxide, which can be handy in the gym and in the bedroom. Take your manhood to the max by trying your first thirty day Buttle free just pay shipping and handling not ten days not fifteen days, but a full thirty days supply free. When you text the word dash to seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine finally a formula that boosts total testosterone if you'll results with ageless male max or two in tents, please decrease us for your free bottle. Text dash to seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine text D A S H two seventy nine seventy nine seventy nine. Welcome to the sporting life with Jeremy shop. Over the next hour race favourite. Brad Keselowski lays out he's planned to win. This weekend's Daytona five hundred everything have to come together. Perfectly to win the Daytona five hundred for us that hasn't happened yet. But I'm confident we just kind of stay the course and try to to do everything we can to run up front lead lap and went at it will be dead e sixties executive producer. Andy Tennant describes the principles that guide. ESPN's award-winning morning show thirty for thirty came along they were telling stories longer than anybody else at ESPN and the response was overwhelming. And we started to look at ourselves as storytellers and say, you know, maybe we don't have this, right? Maybe shorter isn't better maybe longer as better plus an outside the lines feature pays tribute to the life of Frank Robinson. The first African American manager in major league baseball history a lot of expectations and a lot of happy people because one thing and right funds for one thing wrong. It was going to be doubly bad. Because me being the first guy that didn't bother. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Here's Jeremy shop. Welcome to another Bishop the sporting line this past Monday, Thailand, freed Hakeem Allah Alaraby about rainy soccer play who'd been detained for seventy days. As Bahrain tried to have him extradited where he is considered a criminal in Australia. He is a refugee and finally he was freed, and he is now backing Australia. We'll be talking about his situation later in the show with Andrew or Sidey of fief pro the global soccer players union. But I with the Daytona five hundred right around the corner. We welcome to the show. What are the best drivers in the world? The two thousand twelve sprint Cup champion. Brad kozlowski. Brad. Thank you for being with us. Thanks for having me on guys. Appreciate it. Brad. You've never won this particular race. You've what all the other big races. What would it mean to you to break through this year Daytona whether they on five hundred is probably the biggest race in NASCAR? And with that mind if it's kinda strange and it starts the season. But also kinda cool. It says some unique about our sport. And you know, like you said I haven't one one a lot of other races that I'm really proud of one. But not that they told the five hundred and I think it would mean a lot to me it's kind of one of those on clothes tappers in my career that I'm hoping that we can check the box on this year. We're spewed Brad Keselowski. You're thirty five. Now as we've said, you know, you've done just about everything that you can do in NASCAR except win this race. And you've talked about it recently. What it takes to win the Daytona five hundred sometimes it falls into your lap. Sometimes it is victory produced by aggressiveness by certain decision making. What's your approach going to be? Well, I'm gonna just try to lead every lap pecan to be quite honest. You know, you just don't know how these races are going to play out. It seems we we've had the car to to win this race number years. And you know, it seems. Like the years that we have the car to win race. There's been a lot of wrecks on a lot of attrition and things haven't come together for. And here's what we haven't had the probably the car effort to win the race. You know, I've been years where there hasn't been a lot of attrition. So everything has to come together. Just perfectly to win the Daytona five hundred you know, for us that hasn't happened yet. But I'm confident we just kind of stay the course and try to to do everything we can to run up front and lead laps and went at it will actually be speaking with Brad kiss Laskey if the two car Daytona five hundred coming up. What would it mean to you to win the great American race? Well, I think it winning the great American race being the the one box. It's not checked. My career is is a statement. It's the statement that you know, you've kind of done the most important thing you can do as a professional risk driver in North America. And that you're one of the legends. I loved to join that group you've been working with Roger Penske for longtime. Now when the great. Figures in the annals of your sport. When people ask you about Roger Penske. What are the first things that come to mind? Probably just his grace is class. I his ability to lose, but come back, and and and learn lessons and be better for it. And then eventually, prevail. He he's got so many, you know, amazing qualities about him. But those are are one anywhere else. Or I haven't seen anywhere else at my life in it. It's a testament to success is those ability at this point for Roger Penske, who I think is spent eight years old cow involved this on a day-to-day basis with what you guys are doing. Oh, he knows what's going on. You know, our our team president, Tim Senator can him. You know, they they talk jeeze if it's not a daily basis as close to it. But he he's definitely got spin around the pulse. And that's really important to this successive are arresting speaking with Brad Keselowski about the tone of five hundred about NASCAR general your last. Last year was an interesting year for the sports. There was a great finish to the championship race at the end. But there were there were warning signs that the business of NASCAR is not as robust, certainly as it has been or it was ten or fifteen years ago sponsorship down, the removing stands from some tracks of how you assess the state of nascar's business right now Brad, well, my ability to influence that is so very very little that, you know, I just asked for the serenity to let go and focus on things I can't control. And you know, that's that's tough because I wanna see this basic. That's what it can be. But the reality is I have very very little control over those things. And and to put my time and energy and thought into that is more harmful than good. So quite are. I'm trying not to be honest. And I think that there's some smart people working on all that stuff and. They'll figure it out. Is there anything from where you stand even if you're not putting any kind of mental energy into there's something from where you stand that. You think can be done to to get NASCAR back to where it was in the public consciousness. What's orland? There's a lot of knobs that can always be adjusted here there. It's just a matter of, you know, having the willingness to act and Embiid to do. So so, you know, I'll let those that have the control of the knobs worry about speaking. With Brad Keselowski. Very talented NASCAR driver who's competing, of course, in the Daytona five hundred this weekend, some people call it the great American race others calls the Indy. Five hundred if you're an open wheel fan still looking for that I e tone of five hundred victory won the sprint Cup. Which is now the monster Cup championship in two thousand twelve will what goes through your mind in the moments right before the race starts. Well, the pattern of the Daytona five hundred really not like any other. Nascar race it. It's pretty incredible. And you know, you try to treat the race like getting out of the race. But when when all of those things happen all the pre pre-race, hyper literally right before you get in the car, and you see all the people in the stands. It definitely affects you and puts some thoughts in your mind. But you know, you try to calm yourself and stay focused. It's a big race and get into tents or too excited about Inga any favor. So I just try to keep myself calm and do you? Typically succeed you stay calm. Yeah. I think so it would result and been when I want it. But I feel good about the things that we're doing that. We can control we've been speaking with Brad his St. who would be competing again in the Daytona five hundred looking I first win there. We bills have been discussing the state of that star. Brad. Enjoy the race. Good luck. Stay safe. It's really been a pleasure having you here on on the sporting life. Well, thank you so much and hope you have a great day as well. And enjoy the Daytona five hundred. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. This past week e sixty kicked off its twelfth season on ESPN the show goes back to two thousand seven for most of its history. It was a monthly show. But for the last two years, it's been weekly show on Sunday mornings, nine o'clock eastern time hosted by yours truly in that that guy Bob Lee, who's taken a long vacation. He calls it a sabbatical. It's really a vacation. He says he's coming back in April. I I'm not holding my breath. We welcome to the show. Now. It's always interesting when you get interview your boss, the executive producer of e sixty a man who's won about forty seven national sports EMMY awards, but who's counting my good friend. Andrew Tennant, Andy. How are you? Hello. Jeremy I'm holding my breath speak into the microphone. Okay. I I know this isn't what you normally do. But why don't we speak into the microphone this make this easy for the producers? Okay. I know you're a visual guy. It's a visual medium television e- sixties about production values, but this is audio east sixties back this past week in the season premiere. We had a story about parkland about Marjory stoneman Douglas high school in parkland Florida, and it's football team trying to cope in the aftermath of the horrific school shooting that took place a year ago this week on February fourteen twenty eighteen that was a story that in many ways is emblematic of what e- sixty is done a story about sports. But it's also not a story about sports. It's also story that required a full year's worth of reporting and producing for Martin co Bosch, and in particular, I was the reporter. But most of the work is as is usually the case, it'd be the first to say that is done by the. Juicer obviously there was an anniversary this week. But why did why did e sixty choose to tell this story about parkland? I think for us. It's about yes, we worked for sports network. Yes. Where a sports show. But you know, our responsibility is to go out there and find stories that are compelling and are just about life where there's a lesson to be learned where there's, you know, something that provides the next chapter to a story. You know, I think at a certain point the coverage of the parkland snowmen Douglas mass shooting ended, and you know, so people moved on cameras went away the store there were still coverage, obviously because many students have been have been politically active since then, but on the ground in parkland yet when the cameras go away a lot of coverage goes, yeah. And you know, they weren't in the headlines anymore and no for us. It was about, you know, telling the longer story, you know, what is the next chapter. And you know, what was the sports angle for us. And, you know, here's a football coach, you know, who, you know, who gave his life, you know, to try. Save children. Here's another football. Coach who on one day in an instant lost his assistant coach also lost his boss. The director who were both killed in the mass shooting. And you know, we wanted to know we wanted to sort of tell the story of of those relationships, but we also wanted to tell the story of you know, of of strength story of courage story of how do you move on? You know, how do you, you know, take these kids and and push forward in the aftermath of something as horrific as that. We're speaking with Andy Tennant, the executive producer of e sixty which returned on Sunday to ESPN one at nine o'clock eastern time for its twelfth season. And as I said earlier, the show has evolved from twelve to fifteen shows year, you could find them in prime time. We never knew exactly when they were gonna be on when the season was gonna take place was it going to be during football season not during football season. Now, we have regular schedule. We have had for last couple of years. We're on every Sunday morning on ESPN one. When football is not being played and were on ESPN two every Sunday morning when football is being played. So now, we're in the heart of it since the Super Bowl two weeks ago. How did the move from prime time to Sunday morning change the way, you think about what the show should be. That's a great question. I mean, I think for us. It was really always about having a consistent time slot. You know, I think when we were in primetime and often following sportscenter. We were we were leading shows with our our signature profiles of the biggest athletes in sports, you know, bringing our fans up close and personal to these big stars in a way that you know, they they were being brought by our traditional studio shows. So, and that's really how we differentiate ourselves from the rest of ESPN. And also, you know from most of the sports shows that are out there when we moved the Sunday mornings. It was like we finally had the answer to the. The age old question for us is I love the show. I just have no idea when it's on. And so the fact that we're on in some capacity, whether it's ESPN one or ESPN two on a Sunday morning at nine o'clock. You know, it's just for us. It's a great way for people to wake up and to be told a great story that's going to set the tone for the rest of the day or for the rest of their week. And I think we really wanted to focus on you know, who is the audience on a Sunday morning versus who is the audience and a prime time during the week. And you know, what are the metrics telling us what who are the demos out there? And I don't want to dive deep into that. I it did it did force us to rethink the show a lot about you know, what was going on on Sundays. What's going on that we can set the tone for the week? Also, you know, what just provides great content that complements sportscenter which is on both before us and after us on Sundays speaking with Andy tendency, executive producer v sixty and I to say we go back a long way we worked on pieces as reporter and producer twenty. Years ago. And if you did I'm not going to get into any specifics that might be embarrassing to you. And you made some bad decisions about had a little camera time, you gave me some things never change. But you know, we considered ourselves lucky back, then if we got seven minutes for peace that was long TV germs and somehow counter intuitively, the conventional wisdom being that the attention span of the audience gets smaller and smaller over time and digital distractions. You know of made it harder to keep people's attention. All that are are stories. Now, we do twenty minutes stories all the time we do half hour shows on single topics all the time hours pretty frequently as well. There was a time. When people said that's too long for TV how did that philosophy evolve? Where there's almost no limit to the time allotted to a story. Listen, I I've said this before I think thirty for thirty was the game changer. In fact, you know, you as to how you know, it was the most significant change between prime time and Sunday morning. And a lot of it is the length of the pieces. You know, we just we'd go more in depth. We dive deeper into these stories and into these characters because we're on every week because we're on every week. But also, I think look when when the show was, you know, the idea for the show was originally being developed, you know, you know, a lot of executives here were were saying, you know, more story shorter stories, you know, look it within that hour to get like six or seven stories at like six to eight minutes because of the attention span that you were speaking of and, you know, then thirty for thirty at it's really just the executives attention. That's right. But then thirty for thirty came along, and they were telling stories longer than anybody else at ESPN and the response was overwhelming. And we started to look at ourselves as storytellers and say, you know, you know, maybe we don't have this. Right. Maybe maybe shorter isn't better maybe longer as better. And so, you know, we really spent a lot of time think rethinking things considering the success that our colleagues there had and an I think it's really been a game generates has such such a significant impact not only on how we tell stories, but on how you know, everyone tells stories across the board sports, we're speaking with Andy tendency, zek, your producer of e sixty which is on of course, every Sunday morning at nine eastern time on ESPN. It's twelfth season. Just under way, there's a lack coming up this year. There's lot coming up this season. But but more important than just promoting the show, which is kind of the concede here. I want to ask you. There's some talented people in the show there some great reporters. They're great producers who's the best reporter on the show a bodily. Bob doesn't report a coal. He's a coma. Why he had to take a sabbatical? He needed to reflect not scenario is not a professor you needed to take months V hosts, he's a very capable and our Allah, did, very brilliant. But it's I keep telling him, it's not a sabbatical. If you're not a professor, it's a vacation, well, considering he's now giving the commencement speech. At Seton Hall in in may, I mean, I think there is an honorary degree that goes along with says, there isn't don't believe he's not shown up if they're not giving him some kind of decorate we should have him on next week to talk about this. But that was very adeptly handled. I'm impressed. Andrew ten in is the executive producer of e sixty back every Sunday morning on ESPN ESPN one at nine eastern time. Any thank you for keeping me on the show. I appreciate it. Thank you. Jeremy was was in any way, this better than a Harvard Cornell hockey game, I play obviously, I just watched those games those laws reaction's going Cornell beats Harvard on the ice. So let's say that we worked for some Harvard guys don't like. This is the sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. There was big news earlier this week in the international human rights community in the international soccer community. When the Bahraini soccer player Hakeem Alaraby was finally freed from detention in Thailand after being there for seventy days. He had been picked up by the Thai thirties on an INTERPOL red notice requested by his native Bahrain in which he is deemed a criminal human rights community the soccer community coming together demanding his release, and that he'd be allowed to go back to a stralia where he is a refugee and has a legal refugee status one of the people instrumental in the cause to free Hakim joins us now from fief pro the international soccer players association. Andrew or Saadi, Andrew. Thank you for being with us. My pleasure. Jimmy, Andrew you've been right on the front lines of this issue. Do you have been doing all that you could to free Hakeem? When you got the news Monday US time when you got the news, what was your reaction? Well, there are some moments in my career, which you truly cherish. This is one of them because to know that you've played a role to help save one person's life is is something which sends shivers down my spine. And and I'll be feeling that for a long time to come. I think because when I recall all the steps that we're taking all the different actors involved to help get this done. It truly is something that you have to celebrate. Because these moments are few and far between what were the extent of the efforts undertaken by you and others to make sure that Hickey mail arrived. Be was not sent back to Bahrain. I think from faith pros perspective, and as you explained being the the global union for professional soccer. The players we really tried to jump in as soon as possible at the very beginning. However, we noticed that soft diplomacy. Simply did not work. We had more than two months of frustrating issues. One. We thought he would be released then it was the complete opposite effectively buffering had him in an iron grip. And the conclusion was that we had to solve this through the government's as much as football and the international football community has been great the sporting community at large all the human rights groups who jumped in we in the end had to deal with the governments of rain, Thailand and Australia to get this done. And what I tried to do in this period was to stimulate huge interests in terms of international media. I contacted directly many football players around the world, and we were successful to get a whole range of embassador onboard. From Joe Joe Kelley any the captain of Italy. Eventers defender to did the drug many known him well from his days at Chelsea the ivory, and strike all these people one by one Jamie body, the England striker started to get into this issue as we started to really push it amongst members and the one two point. I thought that really struck home that really made everyone understand the gravity of the situation was the moment of footballer was dragged out by the title. Authorities banned foot with his feet shackled in front of the world when he was taken into Bangkok's criminal court for his extradition proceedings when that happened. That's when I realized they had really taken on a life of its own, and it's goes to the different level and the pressure was I think just too much to bear for all concerned in particular, the government's bothering and Thailand, we're speaking with Andrew or Saudi of feast pro about his efforts, and the efforts of others which proved to be fruitful to have. Akeem released from detention in Bangkok returning home. Now, as we speak to Melbourne Australia where he is refugee where he plays soccer professionally. He is considered a criminal in his native Bahrain. It's my understanding Andrew that from the beginning. He should not have been detained because he is a refugee, and it mounted essentially a mix up a clerical mixup that allowed him to be picked up in the first place. Indeed, this issue, transcends sport. It was an issue of human rights in the end. It was indeed an issue. I think all refugees if you are afforded refugee status, which came out, our I be was in Australia. He should be able to rely on international mole will the internationally recognized human rights and everything that means in order for him to travel safely around the world. He took some. Advice we understand, although it's very difficult for me to clearly 'Satan what happened in this process when he was preparing to take a trip to Bangkok with his new wife, then we're going there on their honeymoon who he spoke to in the government or whom he spoke to in the Australian government to seek travel advice to understand whether as a refugee Recife him to go there. Now, he was like to believe that it would be okay. Don't forget as a refugee. He doesn't have a citizenship in Australia. He had to apply for a Beezer with his Baca impossible to go on vacation in Thailand. And then it triggered a whole series of events. So that means the tile reteach knew he was coming. He they even sent it back to Australia to say, okay? It's going on a visa wearing aware. It also went the other way to buff. Ryan from Thailand, it's like this guy's traveling the refugee does that mean and a whole series depends. What triggered whereby that meant by rain. If. Learn for his arrest with the help of INTERPOL the INTERPOL red notice. But if you look at that in isolation into pole this also needs to be investigated and also the role of your striking police and everyone involved because an INTERPOL red notice and arrest warrant cannot be issued for someone as refugees. Nice. It's so if you think about all those different elements. It was clearly cool. It was it was clear that this was a complete mess from start to finish. The great news is is that it's going back to his wife, and we can celebrate in the end, but everything that's code. In. The meantime is an acceptable needs to be investigated in order for this to happen again before we let you go two things that I wanna discuss one the importance of the efforts of Craig foster here for more Australian soccer star and to CFO and the extent to which it got involved the extent to which it was reluctantly involved. And how it's. Fluence did or did not play a role here. Let's first talk about Craig foster. Well, Craig foster festival. I'm proud to call him, my friend, and we have a very strong relationship. But it's a pick this up after it became an Australian full issue, not forgetting their Hakim. I'll awry be is playing in the second division in Australia in a in a regional team in the state of Victoria in in the city of Melbourne. That's where it all started. So sort of your into book community became hugely invested. And Craig is one of the most influential figures in the games that I not only is a former national team, captain, although stralia he's played abroad in countries such as England for Portsmouth and Crystal Palace has respect and he has a platform. More importantly, he recently, even ran for the presidential election in Australia the Football Association's, so he's a he's a he's a gentleman who is very principled firm in his belief that he will succeed and that competitive edge that he carried threaded. Professional career is clear and everything he's done since maybe business six now recently study lawns about to graduate there. So this is a guy who really takes himself seriously, and he really pushed this through to degree which was unprecedented and then safer now, Craig, of course, was one of the first to really call out a home range of people around this, including Gianni Infantino, the president's the things the secretary-general Fatma Samora who does have a previous career at the United Nations. I might add. So she understands the shares and she was willing to accept Craig at their office in Zurich recently just in the final week or so leading up to her canes release and all the while you we've off so some serious questions of us as a game as an industry, and what does it mean for CPA and football to apply maximum leverage to help a person in the now, this is a footballer and in this case football being the world's. Biggest sport was was cold onto dry and hill. Gianni Infantino in my small. We're cold on to apply maximum leverage under the safer human rights policy. And of course, they would gaps there because Gianni Infantino all the way through to speak publicly shake someone who is the rainy f I president is also the president of the Asian Football Confederation. And also a fever vice president who's currently standing for reelection at the Asian Football Confederation he recused himself. He said he could not be involved in this issue, citing a conflict of interest. And so when we look at those key elements, we ask ourselves clearly as an industry, did we do everything to protect this one person. I came out at I B and under the for human rights policy. Have all the stakeholders upheld their duty to to protect these people, and it's not just fever all the Asian Football Confederation. It goes further to the football associations of Bahrain, Thailand, and Australia and all the others close to. So we have to look at this. We need to take time to reflect and we need to ask ourselves has football done its job in in a manner, which we think is consistent with the human rights policy. And we'll look at that once the dust to settle congratulations. Andrew on the release of Hakeem Allah. V who is heading home to Australia where he's a refugee as we speak after seventy days in detention in Thailand, Andrew or Saadi is an executive with fief pro the international association for professional soccer players instrumental in the efforts to free Hakeem in Thailand. Andrew thank you so much for having joined us here in the sporting life. Now, thanks very much. Jeremy I'm just said say it's finally here that there was a great deal of respect amongst the whole range of of groups who've been following the work of ESPN and ios in particular, especially after the the report you you put together for sixty in two thousand sixteen on. On the issue involving athletes over one hundred fifty who've been allegedly detained and tortured in buffalo Ryan, and some that work and the work that you do what he has spent really makes the difference in and I want you to understand if it were not also for the international media in this regard, someone like how came out I b today probably not be going home. So thank you as well. I appreciate that. Andrew. Thank you. Let's speak again soon. Okay. Thanks. The sporting life on ESPN radio and the ESPN app. Route black history month on our show. We are honoring pioneers pave the way for today's athletes and coaches just over week ago. The baseball world lost one of its most respected embassador 's a great pioneer the first African American manager major league baseball Frank Robinson. I had the chance to sit down with Robinson in two thousand fourteen for an outside lines feature which begins with the words of Jackie Robinson, one of Frank's greatest heroes here now is an excerpt from that store, I make family proud and pleased via the afternoon, but must admit I'm gonna be tremendously more pleased and more proud. I look at that third. Baseball line one day and be a black faith matting and baseball ten days. After Jackie Robinson spoke. Those words the man who broke baseball's color barrier died at the age of fifty three his hopes of seeing a black manager unrealized but two years later in September nineteen hundred. Seventy four sleeve Lind Indians general manager, Phil Segi invited newly-acquired slugger. Frank Robinson in his agent. Ed Keating to his office before I could sit down real good. They'd said they want to the manage the club. I was stunned and feels Agassi. Yeah. We want you to manage the club. We want you to play a manager. I said, wait a minute. You want me to do both of them. He said we're gonna pay you two hundred thousand dollars. I said I'm supposed to be paid one hundred eighty thousand dollars to play next year. So you only gonna pay me twenty thousand dollars the managers club next year. He said, that's right. Take it on leaving Robinson says his agent took him out of the room. He says this is a chance for you to break that barrier now open the door, and let more African Americans have the opportunity to come through it. And I thought about it that way I said, I'll take the bullet. Let's face it. You're black. You're the first black manager in baseball. What is this duty your head nothing? Matter of fact, my head size has gotten a little larger lately. But only because my let my hair growth being the first it was a real thrill live it sunk in. I knew it was going to be an awful lot of pressure a lot of expectations and a lot of unhappy people because when things went right fine. But when things go wrong, it was going to be doubly bad because maybe in the first black manager. But that didn't bother me I taken challenges before in the past is a player. When you're a rookie in nineteen fifty six the Cincinnati Reds. You couldn't stay in the same places with all your teammates. No, what was it like at that time? It was rough. I play the half a year in other news first time, I've been away from home, as you know, a seventeen year old and went to the movie one day 'cause I love movies, and the way they mind, but my up on the counter van the glass and the latest said, we don't serve your kind. I it. What's my kind? He said, we don't serve black people can't come in this movie. I was crushed and spring training in one thousand nine fifty five Robinson would for the first time knee Jackie Robinson than really a chance to talk to him because I was a shy kid in those days. But I did get a chance to talk to him when he retired the pollen near very lightning worried about you conducted yourself off the field and you carry on the legacy of African Americans as small keeping those claims actually what he wanted to do. What do you think the significance was then you broke the color line for managers almost thirty years? It was nothing compared to let Jackie did what he went through. But it was important because I was the first and that meant the doors open, but how long ago would stay open dependent on basically the way I conducted myself success that would have. The Indians improved under Robinson and had a winning record his second season. But after a slow start in nineteen seventy seven he was fire. He did manage the giants. And with your heels was named the thousand nine hundred nine American League manager of the year Robinson later became the last man to manage the Montreal Expos and after they relocated the first manager of the Washington nationals in his sixteen seasons as a manager Robinson's teams never reached the play offs. Your team was never never never. So I was very proud of what I got out of the teams. There's only one African American manager major league baseball. There were three the beginning of the season. Now, there's only one. What do you think about that? Well, I don't like the numbers, but I don't have any problems with that. Because I think baseball now is at the point the where they look at the performance of the team and see if the managers getting the most out of the players, and if you're not doing she going to be like, oh, the one and only Frank Robbins. For his part Robinson was elected to the hall of fame in his first year eligibility nine hundred eighty two seven years after his first game as the Indians managed. That is pretty good into vantage. Especially in the big moment. And it still is their big moment special. You're the only person to win the MVP in both leagues. Triple crown in nineteen sixty six the first African American manager you were awarded the presidential medal of freedom the highest civilian or in this country. What is Frank Robinson's legacy? All I know is way I've conducted myself in my lifetime so far. And I have a few more years will continue to conduct myself in the right way. And try to set an example for the young people this coming along after them. Frank Robinson spent his final years giving back to the game that he was so passionate about serving as a special advisor to major league. Baseball's Commissioner Frank Robinson died last Thursday, February seventh he was eighty three years old. I'm Jeremy shop, and you can listen to new editions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on ESPN radio and ESPN app beginning at six AM eastern time. Let's consider the secret life of the innermost nesting dole living most of her life in the duck inside the other nesting Dole's pre has plenty of time to think if we could sadly, she has no brain, however, when an in a most messing dole, his the geiko not only saves people money, but also has been providing great service for over seventy five years. She thinks it's obvious. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer. Piteously in a most nesting Dollond her lot in life.
Astros Scandal: MLB's Nightmare Continues
"So what are your thoughts on? What THE ASTROS DIG Yesterday. The apologies were whatever? Thought Jim Cranes was week. I thought Manfred punishment was week given him immunity. I mean these guys were cheating for three years. Everyone knows they stole the ring from us. That was the reigning National League. Mvp CODY bellinger. Doing what everyone in baseball has done this week? Diaw the Houston Astros in Commissioner Rob Manfred as Manfred faces questions over whether he should have done more to punish the team. Spring Training Games are beginning and all eyes are on Houston. Can the Commissioner contain scandal? That seems like it will never end or with a players. Take things into their own hands. I mean it's Friday February Twenty First. This is espn daily presented by ADT. How is Fort Myers hot? Buster only writes about baseball for ESPN and is in Florida covering spring training. If you've been up in the northeast all winner in near thirty degrees to come down here in the first days of Spring and you already getting seventy five eighty and muggy. It's very different but you know hot not only with the weather but also with the players who well let's get into that Are you covering baseball a long time? Have you ever seen anything like we've witnessed over the last week? Absolutely not look. I mean the early days of spring training are usually about. Who's in good shape who worked? What pitch they worked on during the winter and here it's just flame-throwing. I know personally. I lost respect for those guys. Everyone in the show in the big leagues lost respect for those guys day after day after day of players being critical. But the part. That's so different is the peer to peer stuff. It's damaging to baseball. I feel like every single guy over. There needs a beating even through the steroid era. You didn't see this. Collective anger aimed at one group of players. The way we've seen other players so angry with the Houston Astros. They're angry at the Astros. And they're also angry at commissioner rob Manfred who stepped in it. I think it's fair to say on Sunday at his first press conference of Spring Training when he said the idea of an asterisk or asking for a piece of metal back seems a futile act. Justin Turner on the dodgers was not pleased. You know calling the world series trophy piece of metal. I mean I don't know if there's ever won anything in his life. Maybe he hasn't but the reason every guys in this room the reason every guy is working out all off season and showing up to camp early and putting it all the time. Effort is specifically for that trophy. I think we're used to seeing the likes of this directed towards the NFL. Commissioner Roger Goodell but before now Manfred laid pretty low. How has he generally been perceived by the players in the past well? There's no doubt that generally speaking that the relationship between players and Major League baseball is at its worst. I think in like twenty five years. You know what happened in the last time. The CBA was negotiated. Was the owners absolutely routed? The players in those talks getting a lot of advantages financial advantages taking a lot of the high ground that the players had owned the past and the last couple of years. We've seen that play out. In Free Agency. In veteran players have felt like that when they reach free agency. They're not getting as much money as they should have. So that's sort of been percolating the last couple of years and then when you have robbed make the comments that he he. He's made about the Astros in his handling of that case I think all that anger and it was built upon so he made the comment at the beginning of the week. What is he said since then? Well he acknowledged. He met with reporters on Tuesday night that he was mistaken in what he said. I referred to the World Series Trophy in a disrespectful way. And I want to apologize for that. There's no excuse for it I made a mistake. I was trying to make a point but I should have made it in a more effective way and again I want to apologize for it. Actually think that this was an important first step because he's made a lot of mistakes in this like the fact that in two thousand seventeen when you had the apple watch situation between the RED SOX and Yankees. He missed an opportunity at that time to draw a line in the sand to make it clear to everybody. Look Science. Stealing using electronics is not going to be accepted. He didn't do it in seventeen he didn't do it in eighteen. And let's face it when you listen to the players. Their anger over the fact that members the Astra's weren't disciplined that's viewed as another mistake. So I thought it was important for rob finally to acknowledge that. He's made mistakes. During this process. The players seem to have a problem with the fact that the astros players were given immunity a couple of days ago. Mike Trout said I don't agree with the the punishments you know the players not You know getting anything you know. There was a player driven You know thing cheat like that and not get anything it's it's It's sad to see which is remarkable buster because it's probably the most interesting thing might drive as every said about something other than the weather but it seems to be the way a lot of players feel why didn't Manfred punish them. Rob was in a position where this is not like the AA where you know the the head of the lake and come in and basically threaten players into cooperation. Major League baseball players are represented by the Union and so as they began this negotiation if they had simply gone in and told the players. Look we're coming you get the information. It would have been easy for the players to lawyer up and for a lot of the answers to Major League baseball to be along the lines of. I don't recall or I didn't hear that banging of the trash can and there's not really any way to challenge that and it would have been much more difficult for them to establish information if you remember fourteen years ago. George Mitchell was commissioned by Bud Selig to investigate the steroid era. He had no cooperation with the players because of the position of the Union. And I think that Manfred may have had the same situation if he hadn't given the players immunity. I think one thing to baseball looked at was boy we have litigation arbitration playing over the whole summer. At least this is one way to get to the truth quickly. Established what happened and try to put this in a rear view mirror. That clearly has not been as simple as they as they anticipated. Manfred has suggested that the players could have filed grievances because the Astros General Manager never sent along the rules. And I put the clubs on notice as to what exactly the rules were and how they were going to be treated going forward among the other failures of that organization. That information never made its way to the players. I was awesome. Well they just didn't do it. If we had disciplined the players in all likelihood we were GONNA have grievances and grievances that we were going to lose on the basis that we never properly inform them the rule so given those two. That's exactly right and that's sort of a classic thing because if you remember when Aj hinch the Astros manager did his interview with. Tom Produce one of the questions asked him was. Did Jeff Luneau tell you about this memo and Aj's answered very initially. No HE DIDN'T. The players could have done the same thing. Now you and I know from a point of view of common sense. That's kind of absurd because when the red sox apple watch thing happened in September two thousand seventeen that was out there like it was very public in disgust. That rob Manfred had come down with discipline and in warned. Everybody don't participate in this but again we're into lawyer speak now where well was they actually told specifically that. I wasn't allowed to do a B and C. No I wasn't I don't recall and would have been a morass rob's been commissioner now for five years buster. Is there any chance. He doesn't survive this no he. He's totally fine because of how much money they're making. I mentioned the two thousand sixteen collective bargaining agreement. How they were such an advantageous position when it comes to things like the luxury tax and they're making money hand over fist and for that reason he's fine. When people think about the commissioner I think casual fans will look at them as being the representative of the sport and representing the interests of fans and players and teams know. He's a team employee. He works for the owners and he's been doing a great job at making the owners a lot of money. He's on very solid ground coming up. What should the Astros expect from fans and opposing players at their first spring training? Game whatever you want to protect. Nobody has more ways to help. Keep YOU SAFE THAN ADT. The most trusted name insecurity you can customize an ADT security package to help protect your home in a way that works for you and your budget eighty has hd video doorbells and outdoor cameras. Smart Lights smart locks smart thermostats flood sensors fire in carbon monoxide detectors all connected to twenty four seven monitoring controlled by the sound of your voice or the. Adt APP to help protect your home today with Adt so buster. It seems like some of this negative feedback from fans and players stems from how the astros themselves have handled this over the last couple of weeks. Do you think that they've made it worse? Oh without a doubt. Look if on the first day that this came out you had a press conference in. Aj hinch and Alex Bregman and Jose Altuve All came out and they said you know what we blew it. We made huge mistakes. We're responsible for those and we're here to own them then. I think the sport would have moved passes much more quickly but there is such anger over what was said. I remember getting calls after the you know the first press conference or press availability that Alex Bregman Jose altuve aided in which all Bregman did was referred to. The Commissioner's report hide behind the Commissioner's report. And they were such anger after. Aj hinch is answers and then the capper was what Jim Crane their owner said last week saying that yes they cheated but it had no impact. You know our opinion is You know this didn't impact the game We had a good team We won the world series. And we'll even at that you know I've been comparing it to a neighborhood poker game. It's like the Astros have been saying. Yeah we cheated. On the first hand the secondhand the third hand the fourth hand but when we won that big pot in fifth hand we were playing it straight up and it's absurd and other players have been so angered by it. The other players the Non Astros not only want the astros to be punished. They'd also like the team to be stripped of their title. Aaron judge who of course would have been. Mvp OF JOSE altuve. They didn't get the award in two thousand seventeen. Said this does something holds any value with with cheated. You didn't earn it. You know. That's how I feel is. It wasn't earned earned. Another team had an advantage that you know nothing. You can really guard against that. I just don't feel like that's that's earned her no. Yeah that's why didn't Manfred take away the title? I think you've used that as impractical and ineffective and that's reflected a lot of the conversations that I've had with players that yeah you don't WanNa see members of the two thousand seventeen astros rewarded but the idea of stripping the title or You know taking the championship trophy away. The piece of metal is rob referred to it. It doesn't really take them to where they feel like it would make much of a difference. It feels like it's kind of a meaningless gesture you wrote a column suggesting that Man Fred. Censure the Astros so that sort of have to put an Asterisk by their world series title. Do you think that would satisfy the nation's bloodlust for punishment? No absolutely not. I do think it would be a way for rob Manfred for the angry players to thread the needle and to have a lasting impact. And your. There's no question when you say to one of those angry fans. Yes we're going to censor the astros. They would look at it as being like a nerd move versus what they feel like the Astros would deserve but think about it if rob Manfred went to the other twenty nine owners and ask them for vote and it was twenty nine to one against the astros that they're going to censure the two thousand seventeen astros for their actions for their cheating and then rob at that point could forward that to the players association and say look. This is what we did and we would love to have the player second. There's vote and it would be noted in record books going forward that would be an indelible stain on what that team accomplished. And I wouldn't be I think is media as stripping them of their title. It wouldn't feel as good as taking away. The Players Championship rings are taken away their money. But I think that would last a long time. Never be forgotten so the Astros play their first training game tomorrow against the Washington nationals the two teams that were in last year's world series. What do you think the atmosphere is going to be like? It's GonNa be wild first off you know I was talking with a high ranking club executive the other day who suggested that you might see teams. Have you know trash can day all around baseball through two thousand twenty and we're probably going to get the first field for that? We're someone's GONNA find a way to get a trash. Can Lid into the ballpark and just be banging on it. The whole game. I think people are wondering if right from the get-go they're going to be a bunch of hit by pitches and bench clearing brawls in a hockey game breaking out. I don't think it'll be that way at the outset. But I think that what the Astros are going to experience in terms of Fan. Reaction is not like anything we've ever seen before it'll be less when they're playing their home games. But I feel like that. They're eighty-one road games. This year are going to be like eighty one. Perp walks that every time they go out on a field they are going to hear it in a way we never seen before. Look I covered Roberto Alamar. When he went through spitting incident in every game there after when he was playing on the road for the rest of his career he was booed and it really bothered him. Barry Bonds had a similar treatment as you get closer to breaking Hank Aaron's record because of the specter of steroids but in talking with players on other teams. They really wonder if you're going to see some of the Astros affected by this especially when going through slump. You imagine you know if you're over ten over eleven that's hard enough to deal with but then you walk them back to the Dugout and you're twenty voices. What do you need to know what the pitch was? Do you need someone to Bang Trash? Can you know for one day but for day after day after day? Three to four hours of that type of feedback when you're playing on the road that's going to be hard. I live in Los Angeles. I'm not a dodgers fan but I'm really tempted to go to a game when the Astros show up just to see how people try to sneak. Trash can lids into the stadium. Oh Yeah and in fact you've seen stories about how dodger fans have decided that they're all going to make the trip down to Anaheim the first time the astros play at the angels in Barry Bonds last years of his career the giants consistently led the major leagues and wrote attendance. And you know why because people wanted to go and boo him will now you have this entire team that is drawn? Ira OF FANS and other players. And you know that's all going to coalesce day after day this summer so. I know this is very bad for baseball. It's very bad for rob Manfred. It's very bad for the integrity of the game. But in a way is it also kind of good. I mean I WANNA watch every astros game this year. Yeah Meena our first game with our Sunday night group is angels at Astros and I know that the ratings for that game. We're going to be really high because everyone's going to wonder what's going to happen big picture. It's not a good thing for baseball. That people now look back at the results of the two thousand seventeen world series. The Red Sox winning in two thousand eighteen the alleged buzzer situation with Jose Altuve and the Astros in two thousand nineteen and wonder if what they saw was real you do wonder if some fans might just throw their hands up and say you know what. I'm sick of this. I spent all this money. I watch games and now you're telling me what I saw wasn't real. They may lose people because of that. Thanks so much buster. Thanks for coming up with expanding the. Nfl playoffs be bad for football. Here's another story. I want you to know yesterday the. Nfl owners met in New York City Manhattan Hotel in approved a new labor agreement with two major changes that have sent shockwaves across the league. One would entail adding a seventeenth regular season game and the other would expand the playoffs from twelve teams to fourteen the NFL Players Association Executive Committee and representatives from all. Thirty two teams. They're holding a call today to discuss the deal which would have to be approved by a majority vote from all players. There's much to be discussed about the financial ramifications for both the League and players the effects on their health and how this will affect the sport as a whole but for now. I only WanNa talk about one thing which I imagine isn't going to be holed up for the players but has given pause to some fans the expanded playoff field. Now some of the blowouts. You've seen on wild card weekend. In recent years have people concerned that expanding the field would give us a lot of bad football if we had fourteen teams this year we would have gotten Patrick. Mahomes versus duck. Hodges which doesn't seem fair the majority of teams that would have gotten in since two thousand and two. What if one around nine games which isn't very appealing. But if you dig deeper into the numbers you'll see that a lot of those teams were actually pretty good indeed in the five years before last season according to football outsiders. Dvr A stat which measures efficiency the thirteenth seed was better than more than four of the teams that ended up making it into the postseason and two of those teams. Baltimore in two thousand Seventeen and Philadelphia in two thousand. Fourteen were better than half of the playoff field. So I'll it made feel as though expanding. The field is like lowering the minimum. Gpa boost college admissions. The quality of play probably won't decline that much. Besides you know you're going to watch I mean at times and this has been ESPN DAILY. Our show is produced by Michael Bolton Era Choi Farkas Alexander Hyacinth. Mike. John's St Marteen Ryan Intel David. Sarossy Andy tennant. Eve tro Chris to Menello Erinvale. I'll talk to you Monday.
Boxer Christy Martin's Fight for Her Life
"Before we get into today's show. Quick heads up. It contains descriptions of domestic violence. Christie's on the floor. Bleeding out, she hears her longer going. Her calf has been severed from her leg practically, and she's fully expecting. She's going to die. And then she hears the shower turn on him, and she realizes that the man who tried to kill her is going to be busy for twenty minutes. And in that moment she says herself. I WANNA live. I'm not going to die on this floor. And somehow miraculously she gets up, drags herself out of the house down the driveway. And flags down the first car she can find. Christy Martin was a trailblazing boxer often considered the first ever female star in the sport. Shire's. But behind that success she struggled for control of her career. And her life. And it nearly killed her. Say. Alison blocked joins the show to tell the story of a woman who's a true fighter in more ways than one. It's Friday July fourth? This is ESPN daily. Alison in June for the first time ever the international boxing hall of fame was planning to induct its first batch, a female boxers, but like so many other things these days those plans were postponed until next year, but when the these were first announced in December, it was seemingly on surprising that former world champion Christy Martin who'll be part of the inaugural women's class. Tell us why that's not surprising. It's not surprising because she's the best woman boxer of all time. Allison Glock is a senior writer for ESPN in the author of the article, the remarkable life and near death of boxer Christy Martin when she came on the scene. In the nineties she opened up. What women's fighting in boxing could look like. Aggressive and fearless. Christy Martin fucking shots, and she trash talk to lot I. Did buy an extra pair of running shoes because I figure I'm going to need them chasing your ass and down, and she really shocked people with her abilities. She just over performed in every single match up. Parole she shot Christy Martin. Non Relentless attack, nine, thousand, nine, hundred six, she fought against teacher. Gogarty on the Tyson Card Vegas on pay per view, and it became this giant sensation will. Appreciate of the. Christy Martin Deirdre Gogarty, and then after that she landed the cover sports illustrated and was on talk shows, and so she was really our first to liberty. You know women's boxer. You spend a lot of time with Christy now. What does she like? Christie is brassy and chippy. Hi Christine. Hey Alison. How are you? I'm good. It's nice to see you this great to see you. You know I'm always happy. Everyday Day I. Wake Up Bliss. She's really particular combination of qualities that is very much a part of Appalachia and being from Appalachia myself. ICON to that really quickly. I I really enjoy an and like her company. If, somebody wants to get into the verbal sparring match with me. They're going to lose. I have all kinds of great one liners group with? How did she get into box in the first place? She entered a tough man contest. I don't know if you remember those, but they were sort of like people that are wreck cages, basically with fencing, and then throw two people in a ring and have at. It predated MMA and she was fascinated by that. I grew up so that West Virginia and at the time the tough man contest would come around my little town, and I would tell the promoters. You have to let women injured this sometime. Why? I thought that I have no idea but I did. An initially, they wanted her to be chum for more established fighters, and so they brought her onto to lose basically, and then she just kept winning. Conditioning was much better. They were tough for the first twenty seconds, and then my athleticism and conditioning kind of took over. How does a girl from West Virginia go from tough man competitions to sharing a stage Tyson? I think the Christy Martin story is really one of people, not having expectations around what a woman can do, what a woman from Appalachia could do and her. Obliterating those expectations at every single turn, a lot of promoters, sick note, eventually don king, and she was the first woman signed by Don King Oh so much that changed your life. It did change your life. Undercard of that, Tyson fight became the stuff of like legend. What stands out about that pivotal night for you. I was awesome. There's more people in my dressing room. Then they were in my hometown. Ladies and gentlemen recognized as the women's pound for pound, Jeff. Introducing the coal miner's daughter Christy Martin. Go out there. They're Rina's going nuts. Because everybody's getting warmed up for Tyson. But. The finest self was a war as she fights back. To Real. Cheap paddles. Rotate what Christie route well the combination of the counter by Gogarty and this isn't even flight right here. In a way. Gogarty was was tough as hell and just kept coming back. On push me, more Martin. Right here comes more turning it. Off Don't goes cocody. Dowse she got up. Thought, harder game another furious exchange here. Carlos Padilla taking a close look at her gogarty. Unloads the Boggs. He pushed me to my limits. I think that night I wonder if underestimated the challenge and the tortoise of Deirdre, Gogarty, her nose, a split open, and there was blood everywhere the only thing that will stop. We have a unanimous decision. The winner the coal miner's daughter Christy. Martin. Later after the fight our back to my Roman, the voicemail was full, and it was full from the Leno show today. Show all these really cool things. And and I called my pr guy. Like Why would somebody played his joke me? At. Present joke you. You should be down here in in the hotel. Everybody's talking about your fight and I was like. Wow, you know. I didn't know where to put it how to put it out of. Even comprehend what was happening. St Martin. Stock. So she was a famous champion, victorious, aggressive in the ring, but allison, her personal life was very different, because amidst all of the success she was married to a man named Jim Martin. Who is also her trainer? He was a lot older than her and she met him in the first boxing gym. She walked into. So tell us who was Jim Morton. How did he become this pivotal person in her life? Jim Martin was sort of a griff ter-. And a con man who inhabited this sort of the fringes of the boxing world the first day that I met him the minute I walk. Did you can tell like Demartin was the biggest Mel chauvinist pig in and he got to the point. If you didn't put pig behind it, he was insulted. He didn't hide it that he really didn't want me in the gym, but Christie walking in to his life, probably like the best thing that ever happened to him because. She was a winner with future. And as soon as he figured that out, he lashed himself to her. You know with a sort of vice grip. He started EST trainer and then manager, and then eventually they got married. Christine decided to marry him because she felt like she had to. Her I love in high school was a girl in her basketball team had this. Beautiful Teen Romance. But. Christie knew that that was not acceptable. In appalachia was not acceptable at that time. It was not acceptable on her family. So, she just made a decision to be with him. That sort of internal shame and fear to a guy who's incredibly manipulative and and skilled at making people feel vulnerable, became this very toxic combination. And what ways do you try to control her life? He would control every small detail from what she could eat what she wore. who were friends were? Used to make her way herself in front of him three times a day. Everything, from the smallest thing like how many eggs for breakfast to the. Largest thing you know how many times she could talk to her mother on the phone. Master, master manipulator. Alison. How bad did it get? It got about as bad as you can imagine. The more successful became with the boxing. The tighter has got you know at some point. He began secretly recording her. You know he had these six tapes. Some of that shame on me, I knew some of will be recorded. There was a lot of stuff. I didn't know what was being recorded. Whenever Christie would threaten to leave, or we start to express some independence. Jim Threatened to show, said tapes to her mother or her father or her peers. Alison! It wasn't just these tapes that he used against her right. Oh. No, it was more than that. Jim was aware that Christie had female lovers in the past and remained attracted to women. and. At this time in our culture. Being Lesbian or bisexual. Would have ended her career. Would tell me that he was still everybody was lesbian. He had convinced me that my family was against me. You know that I didn't have any friends. Is isolated me so much that my group. was very small. Circle is very small. I would refer to him as the puppet master, and he thought that was the greatest compliment ever. And that's what he was I mean. It was the master my mouth moved in. His words came out. At this point, she's talking this marriage with a man who wants to reveal her secrets. He's been taping her. He's abusive. How's she coping with all that? Initially! Chrissy coped by throwing herself into her sport. She'll say. Boxing is the one true love of her life. And then when that stopped working. In, that wasn't getting the job done. For avoiding the harsh realities of her existence, she started using cocaine. And, then eventually as it always is, that stops working. She was heading down this path to a reckoning. And it just ended up unfolding this incredibly violent and dramatic way. All right after the break. Let's talk about that reckoning, and what happened between Christie and Jim. 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Then reconnecting with her. gave her. You know the strength. She needed to make a change. She contacted a divorce attorney She started set things in motion, and she was very forthright with Jim about this whole process, and supposedly he was fine with that, and they set up this idea this plan where she would fight one more big fight, one more big payday they would split the winnings, and then they would go their separate ways, and then when Christie actually did start to go a separate way. Jim told her that he was going to kill her. As the door. He said. If you leave me, I'll kill you. And I turned around and I looked at I. Mean I locked eyes with because I was ready to die. I didn't care I was so low. It didn't matter to me I. Love is with them, and is it simply do what you have to do? Jim? And left. Where was she going? What was her plan? Christie had gone to visit her friend, and she arrived in met her in the parking lot and they hugged too low. She got a text immediately and it was Jim. He had followed her and was stalking her. and. He said I'm so close I could touch you. The Senate Chill Down Christie's spine. After a few hours of being fearful, this prestigious decided. I'M NOT GONNA. Live this way. I'm not going to be threatened intimidated anymore, and so she told her friend I'm going back to go home and I'm going to deal with his head on. I JUST WANNA look over my shoulder for the rest of my life. And had I not gone back and faced whatever it was, that was going to happen. I would have had to look over my shoulder for the rest of my wife, just waiting on him to kill me and I just didn't WanNa live like that. She knew she was walking into the lion's den basically, and she knew the outcome could be tragic. But she drove home and walk through that door. And what happened when she came home? Jim was there. And he was just acting peculiar, which wasn't unusual. And Christie said. I'm going to go for a run, so she went in her bedroom. And was lacing up her sneakers to go for Ron. She got one sneaker on who? And Jim entered the room sort of hiding something behind his back, and he said I have something to show you. And by the time she looked up at him. He had already stabbed her three times. And then a fourth time he punctured her breasts and that was the moment she realized what was happening. It was beating my head against the dresser in the bedroom, and it was like boom. You know the switch to slip. I, told him mother. You cannot cuming and I meant it I mean. He would have had to you know shot me pointblank directly in the head to kill me. I was just as traumatized. That will do whatever it is you're. GonNa dish out and. From being so ready to die to. No not today. Not Today. How did she survive? Girl. I don't know. When you see the photos of the crime scene when you read. The police reports her survival, I. Mean it's just truly. Remarkable because in addition to stabbing her, he cut her calf almost completely off. He punched her in the face, and then he took a gun out and shot her in the chest at point-blank range in it, MR, heart by I, think under three inches. On the floor I prayed and I prayed hard, and it was like an immediate rare answered. Almost, immediately are the shower water turn on, and I thought that's God's answer, and this is your time. This is the only chance you're going to have to get out. She dragged herself like literally dragged herself from the house down. This long driveway lined with trees and flag down The first car she could I was sitting there all bloody. My only choice was go to the middle of the main highway and carjacked somebody know laugh as the carjack somebody. And thankfully mercifully there was a car there, and and this stranger what her hop in and took her to the ER. Toward the gym shot me stabbed me. Please don't let me die and then I apologize to him for bleeding arrays backseat. I kept telling him. Please let me die. Please don't let me die. She didn't know this at the time, but Jim emerged from the shower while all this was happening saw that she was gone, and he was probably only a few minutes behind her, running out to the driveway chasing after her. Jeez. To get up. Off The floor I, think s showed more character more goods than anything I ever did in boxing or anything I could have done before or I will do after in my life. Because I could have easily laid there. I was dying. It ruptured my lung. Could hear the gurgling sound so. No a matter of time it was numbered. What were her injuries like in? How long did it take to recover when she got to the hospital? Everyone who saw her in the? Described the scene was one of the most graphic and horrific things they'd ever seen it took. Quite a while to get her stabilized, it took months and months to recover I. mean she still has scars and injuries and. She's forever changed. What happened to him? He fled the scene and hit in the neighbor's shed. For about a week he was found by police arrested and tried and convicted, and he's in prison now. Kristie played a role in gem. Being served justice. What was that like for her? I think it was really difficult because. You know here was a woman who had kept her private life as private as she could. And suddenly she's in this courtroom, and her father's there and her mother's there and she's having to talk about all of the. Unsavory. Things that nobody really relishes unpacking. After she had testified and answered questions for hours and hours and hours, she was walking out of the courtroom. And normally you know you go through the little between the tables. I took a deep breath and I just walked straight at Jim. A million things are going through my mind, and I just said to him straight in his eyes. As you know, I hope you burn him. It wasn't something she had planned, but it did inspire the Hurley team to make a coffee mugs with that quote on it. I kind of all and I know I do, too. I have asked for one. After. She recovered she about trying to move on. It was hard because. It dictated every single part of her life for so long that she really had to discover who she was. I'm still every day trying to get over the mental. The beat down the put downs on the. You're not good enough. I still have this problem. It took some time to find herself. She got it a therapy. She started exercising again. She's doing boxing promoting to keep yourself in the game. She loves so much and she's doing a lot of advocacy for survivors of domestic abuse and paying it forward I had a younger who sooner senior exit project at the High School I was teaching. She wanted to do it on domestic violence. The first thing she asked me was. How does being a victim of domestic violence? How has it changed your life. And I really it took me back. At bothered me so I I said you're. Not a victim? I'm a survivor. Survivor Despite some initial hesitancy to get serious relationship, she ended up getting remarried. Was it hard for you to be vulnerable with someone new? Oh Alison I told everybody that knew me if I tell you that I'm serious about somebody. Smack the crap out of me. No, no, no, never never again I will not get married. I would not even be in a relationship. So she got over her fears and fell in love with one of her former competitors Lisa Owen. and. The two of them live in Texas. They're super compatible super happy. and to me, it's just a lovely thing to see a woman of Christie's age and experience finally get to be who she should have been all along. What would you tell your younger self? That girl in West? Virginia who loves sports about what her future was going bring. ME. I don't know how I could even tell anyone to get the prepare for what my future was gonNA hold because. I truly lived more than two lives. Because I live the life in front of the camera. And I lived the life behind the camera, but all along I knew in my to heart. I wanted to be with someone I loved. Forty years later. So much has changed so much is still the same because they're so parents and and people that are non accepting. Would you rather you chow? Be Marriage whether getting beat up whether it be physical or mentally or emotionally every day. So, I would just tell anybody wherever they may be. Be Yourself. Thanks so much Alison Course, it's my pleasure. Coming up. To new teams have new names with mixed reactions. Here's another story I want you to know. The Washington football team announced its new name, or at least it's temporary one, and are you ready for this? It's the. Washington football team. The revelation was somewhat underwhelming, especially given that it came minutes after the Seattle. NHL team announced their new name. Graham, please. The crack in which is a little more exciting than calling your football team football team, so the name of Seattle has been the subject of speculation ever since the city was awarded its expansion team back in two thousand, eighteen, according to our Emily Kaplan the organization actually registered five domain names, cracking hockey Sakai's hockey, Evergreen, hockey, renegades, and Seattle renegades dot com to throw people off set. So, how did they land on Kraken? And what is it cracking? Are kraken according to the team? It's a legendary sea creature with ties to the region on account of Seattle's maritime history. There's no mascot yet, but the primary logo sort of looks like bragging with a glowing red is. Now, the origin story of the name is unclear. According to Kaplan at some point in two thousand eighteen, the phrase release, the Kraken was written on a post. It note inside NHL Seattle's offices and the name was largely agreed upon by December two nineteen. Still early, but based on my very Seattle sports centric social media timeline. People seem to like it. It's fun to say get, and the colors have very northwest feel, and in a moment win just about every mls team seems to be named insert. City F C, it stands out. Take No, Washington you can get a little weird or at least come up with the name. That's not just football team. I mean and this has been ESPN daily. Our show is produced by Alexander Hamilton John's St Marteen. Ryan Intel Andy. tennant gave. Chris to Mellow and Erinvale special thanks this week to Max Brodsky rustled Allah Garrett Laying Troy Carcass in talk. I'll talk to you Monday.
Hot Seat Szn: The NFL Coaching Carousel
"Hi It's Mimi host of the ESPN daily podcast. Wake up to the best story. You'll hear all day twenty minutes a day five days a week where you get an inside look look at the most interesting stories at ESPN. As told by the top reporters that insiders on the planet the breaking news is sportscenter with deep dive storytelling of thirty for thirty. Today's episode episode one. I thought you'd like please listen and subscribe to Espn daily wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Jason Garrett is done and we talk about it every single year about how you know. Hey He's on the hot seat. Well this thing right now dude he be getting botches without it happens every year when NFL season winds down coaches on losing teams across the League are feeling the heat as ritual known as black Monday approaches breakdown. which seats are the warmest and who might be next in line for the biggest jobs in the NFL? I mean times. It's Friday December twentieth. This is espn daily presented by indeed. Dan Dan how you doing. I'm good week. Sixteen Dan Graziano is an NFL insider for ESPN well with week. Sixteen and for some teams It's very exciting. We're looking towards the playoffs with other teams and other fan bases. It's hot seat season. Dan Can you you explain to us. How you know coaches on the hot seat usually? It's either there's some sort of turmoil like the locker room is is losing. Its mind or there's like some some kind of internal tension between the coach and the Front Office war. It's a coach. That's been there awhile. And kind of is on his second or third chance and he's still like limping toward five and eleven. And you know I think those are pretty much the obvious signs and then I think you just sort of have to start poking around then ask the people in charge. Do you think you make a change here and you can find out yes you can find out. No sometimes you know Detroit. Lions come out and say they're not firing Matt Patricia. Detroit fight lions owner Martha firestone Ford announced today that hey coach Matt Patricia and GM. Bob Quinn will be back next season. It could get to the point. Where at least becomes an obvious his worthwhile question to ask how much does sort of longevity matter towards determining whether coaches really on the hot seat do coaches? You've only been there a year. Like Zack Taylor. In Cincinnati tend to get more leeway in general. Yeah I don't. I think it's pretty unusual for for a team to go. After one year I mean Arizona last year did it because they were just kind of changing their whole plan right like yeah. Nothing against you. Steve wilks but we are going to draft this quarterback Kyle Amaury. We're going to pair them with a coach thinking. When you're just GONNA pretend the year two thousand eighteen never happened and start scratching twenty nineteen with new coach and quarterback even though we just did that? So it's pretty unusual. Yeah I think like look at Zach Taylor in Cincinnati. He succeeds a guy that was there for sixteen years. Marvin Lewis so when Zack Taylor gets that job. He knows he's going to a place where they're likely to be patient. Ready Kitchen get the job in Cleveland. He knows that the place where historically they have not been patient but yeah I think you have to give a couple couple or three years. The flip side is everybody always points out is the Pittsburgh steelers only had three different coaches in the last fifty years and have won. Six super bowls you know. I think everybody would like it to be like that. Not Everybody has that kind of patience or success. Let's talk about Freddie Kitchens. I think going into the season. The browns had probably greater expectations than most of the teams were talking talking about by any measure. It's been a disappointment. A lot of the pundits out there said they were going to be the super bowl. That was the team. Freddie Kitchens a lot of people talked about him and his job but he had to win a couple of these games on the stretch and this was a big loss Dan. You mentioned that in the past. They've gone through coaches quickly in Cleveland. How how do you think that perception affects the decision making of the browns? They don't want to be a team. That constantly changes coaches fires coaches. But that doesn't mean they won't be because I mean you can convince yourself at all. I can't believe we're doing this again. But it's the right thing. 'cause Freddie Kitchens was obviously the wrong decision vision of why would we compound that by bringing him back for another year when when he's shown that he can't handle it and again I'm just I'm this is me imagining an internal monologue or Jimmy has but we have a guy that we definitely don't think is the guy then we have to move on and try and find someone who is Dan You talked about. How if it's only been a year? Sometimes a team will say. Let's give this guy a chance to turn things around. But it's been a couple of years in in Detroit with Matt Patricia. Why do you think that team came out before black Monday? And said we're going to hang onto him despite the fact that he's one In two seasons as many games as Jim Caldwell one in a single season before he was fired in Detroit I think the key is bob coined the GM right he comes from New England. He gets rid of Caldwell he goes and six out Patricia who knows from New England and he has sold ownership on. We can build this thing. Long-term here's what Martha firestone foreign said about her decision to bring back both former patriots quote. We expect to be a playoff contender. We expect to play meaningful games in December as she's referring bring to next season when she brings him back whatever he's told them about here are signs that it can work. They've bought whether they're correct or not. I think you know the former New England crew. That's running the Detroit. Lions has convinced Detroit Lions Ownership. Here's why this can work here. We're sorry it hasn't worked right away but two years isn't long enough. Give us another chance. And we'll see how much does the GM matter when we're looking at these teams in trying to evaluate whether or not they're going to move on from their head coach well matters a lot. It commensurate a couple of different ways one. How tied together are they did the GM hire the coach? And right now when when Quinn goes Detroit cold wells already there. You figure we'll cold well. It's not going to last because Quinn's GonNa WanNa bring in his own Guy Lo and behold that happen happen so if you are the guy that the GM hired that might help you if you are the guy that GM hired but it's going poorly and you're the the first guy the GM hired then. Recent history has shown us that you are the one in trouble and the GM is not there are coaches out. There that will tell you that. GM sits in the owner's box. He talks to the owner all game. He's the voice he hears while the coaches are down there on the field losing and it's pretty easy for the GM that kind of position himself. Like hey this isn't my fault. Let's make a change and try it another either way. I do think there are situations where you see more and more around the league where it goes in the other direction where. The coach kind of picks up in San Francisco. John Lynch came because Kyle Shanahan wanted wanted him in Buffalo Brandon. Beane came because Sean McDermott wanted him so I like that. Formula Teens are using now or they get the coach. I coach brings in mm somebody. He knows he can believe in. They understand the salary cap in the same way and can do all that administrative stuff together. I think that's that's a formula that looks like it's working in a few spots. Uh So dan. In sort of walking through the red flags for coaches one of the things you mentioned is sometimes you have a coach who's fairly successful but perhaps has grown stagnant and when that the first name that came to mind for me was Jason and Garrett in Dallas a team that could very well win the division but do you think even if they do that they might still end up splitting with their head coach now that gets tricky for a couple reasons one year behind right if he wins the division. And let's say he wins his first playoff game and he still has to do more than that. You end up. Let go of your coach in the middle of January and some teams have already hired coaches. And maybe you didn't get a chance to get at the guy you wanted but I think in the case in Dallas you have have a coach. It's been there a long time and the expectations have been higher than what he's achieved. So I really think that it's true what we can say all year about Garrett which is he's gotTa make a playoff run on have a chance to keep his job. What did you say? I really didn't hear you. You need to see from Jason to bring him back in twenty twenty. I really didn't hear you the drill going back over there next question. A the storm cloud hanging over Jason Garrett. That's not new. That's really been hanging over him for if not a couple of seasons at least at the beginning of this one. How do you think it affects the team? When everyone knows static coaches really coaching for his job it can get a team down? It depends how they feel about the coach. I was covering the giants at the end of the Tom. Coughlin her you know. He's twelve twelve years and they like the time he was done. The locker room felt like disappointed in itself for not being able to save him so that can happen and I think they're opposite situations where players are sick of the coach. And they don't they don't mind that he's gone. I just don't think like impure in a playoff race. The Dallas Cowboys. When you're spending too much time sitting there thinking? Oh well we really need to win this or else Jason's like like you're trying to win it. Take them to the playoffs and make some extra money and get good and and maybe try and get a super bowl ring. But I think towards the end of the season when when all is lost. When you're not in contention you see a lot of teams shut it down like the way Carolina's performing right now as an example? It's just not one hundred percent up for it and I think that can happen when there's a coaching situation. It can show up but it can also go the other way. Atlanta Falcons playing very very hard for Dan. Quinn the Falcons knock the forty niners off the top of the NFC with a seven point win. Twenty nine twenty two the final at the end Game on the line. Those are the moments coach that you totally live for makes you feel most. I was awesome. Dan It's funny you mention Quinn. Because I've been thinking that watching him the last couple of weeks wchs he's got his back against the wall and I wonder do you think that changes his willingness to take risks and be aggressive. It shouldn't and I don't think for most those guys that goes. I remember. This is a long time telling me when a long time ago when I used to. When I covered baseball I covered the Yankees and Brian? CASHMAN Ashman with the GM even way back. Then he's been. There was a season where he was in a contract. You and I remember talking to him and asking. Is this. Change Your perspective active right and he said look. I have a job like they're still paying me to do this job which is be GM. And so if I don't do that well and who's going to hire I think when when coaches when anyone finds himself in a difficult situation like that. That's a pretty good way to handle it coming up. How much head coach turnover will we see this year? 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And let's say the argument Dan Quinn going to save his job in Atlanta. It gets hard to get to six from there right like if you just like. Just there's these are just situations. Were watching right. Giants Jacksonville. Carolina and Washington are already the open. Yeah that's only four and I mean I don't think you're gonNA see too much more than that now. There's always a surprise but the other thing everybody says. Well there's always a surprise and one of my editors asked me yesterday. What do you think the surprise will be? That wouldn't be a surprise. But if we believe the jets and the Lions and if we think the browns aren't GonNa move on critic kitchens that could be a little bit of a lighter turnover year at head coach. What is it like for you when do you start hearing murmurs murmurs that? Someone is going to get like. Oh it's weeks out they you start hearing those murmurs Kinda like we've been talking about right. You kind of what the situations are the you need to keep track of from what I do if I didn't start calling sources on this until Saturday Sunday week. Seventeen Monday Monday after weeks. And then we'd call me back so I've got a no already and have groundwork laid like. Hey if you hear something on this situation can you keep me posted if if you've done it right and you've done the advance work. You can be in position to you know what's going on and maybe you know. Lucky Eagle. I break one. You told us what these days are like for you. What are they like for the people inside these organizations because obviously the shock waves go far beyond anyone coach? I mean you have to be. That's the other thing you check in with people you know on staff you know. Hey you're doing all right. I mean like the head coach gets fired. They don't announce that often wine course got fire. quarterbacks coach got fired at backs coach got fired but but in a lot of cases that may be someone you have a relationship with back. An instance. Where yes I mean? Sometimes those guys can give you information but you know in the business of making sure that you build sources trust you that today to kind of reach out and say hey. I'm not looking for anything I just want to make sure you're all right. I remember after coughing got fired. Pat Flaherty had been his offensive line coach. The whole twelve years and I talked to pat the following knowing your in San Francisco with chip Kelly said man. I had twelve years in one place got to raise my kids when they went. They went all the way through school in one place in my visit. That is was on her so he was really appreciative of fat. Most of the time it's opposite I think each time. They have to wonder whether they're going to get tests. They are in limbo a lot all the time because they're contract they're still running and they're waiting to see. The head. Coach is going into Monday. Many of these teams already have and as to who they want. A target for the coach's replacement on Monday Monday night you'll see reports of permission slips going in to only thirteen has requested permission to interview the offense coordinator of the of the Indianapolis Colts Defensive Coordinator in the San Francisco Forty niners etcetera so every owner. WHO's thinking about change? He even owners that aren't taking about changes most of them Keith. Piles of you know. Coaching prospects that they like terrific for when the day inevitably comes with a need it last year. The hot trend in hiring head coaches was Anyone who has ever had a conversation with Sean mcvay SOW I. You and I didn't get called. Do you think that's going to happen again this year. I mean you mentioned solid. It seems like actually. We're hearing some defensive names Dennis Allen the coordinator in New Orleans Ron Rivera who was fired. It is likely maybe that will see a different trend in two thousand twenty. It's possible you do hear a lot of defensive names but you know I feel like I read the same column every year on. Uh which is you should not be looking for. Do we want an offensive guy or a defense got. You should be looking for. Do we want a leader. You you know once upon a time the Baltimore Ravens hired the special teams coordinator from Philadelphia. Eagles John Harbach. He's still the coach and not only is still the coach but he's winning games in different ways than he ever wanted them before because he has the ability to run the building and and and he can establish the vision and be the leader eater and be the delegator that makes it all work. And I think that gets lost a lot of the time when people start talking about. Do we often do. We want a decent guy. Do we want a young guy do. Do we want a guy who's done it before you need to have somebody who has that leadership ability inside of them and when you hit on that that's when you have both Dan in all of your years covering the coaching carousel and black Monday. How has it changed? What is different now from say a decade ago? Nothing I mean like to same stuff right like north coordinators. Do we need to make a move because the fans are upset or we're just bored word with this guy or like he's offense. We need defense. These young and we need old. He's players coach. And we need a A tale kicker. You know like I. I don't know I it's I just I think teams are doing it the same way. It varies year to year in terms of physics but in terms of a process. No I think it's I don't think it's evolved. I think that's it's kind of a story that that's probably worth pursuing and writing is is the teams are still doing it the same way they did ten years ago and maybe longer. Aw thanks Dan or coming up. What James Wise? Men's decision means for the future of College Basketball Goodbye. Twenty nine thousand nine hundred goodbye windows. Seven Dell's holiday. Sales are the perfect time time to say hello to twenty twenty a windows. Ten upgrade save big under latest business computers powered by Intel core processors. Don't forget to shop. Servers storage and thousands of top brand electronics. All with free shipping. Call a small business technology advisor to help you find the right tech- for your business needs at eight. Seven seven by Dell. That's eight seven seven by Dell or visit Dell dot com slash business deals. Here's another story. I want you to know not too long ago. We told you about James. Wiseman the Freshman Basketball Player at Memphis who was suspended after the NC Double A.. Found he had received improper financial benefits from the man who would become his college coach. Penny Hardaway it's frankly right in. The wheelhouse is just frustrating. Because it's a rule that most people most fair minded people don't agree with. It's just an unusual situation relation to have a coach that coached a prospect when he was in high school ultimately becoming his college coach. That doesn't happen very often. So the circumstances are somewhat unique. Initially Memphis fought back but wiseman eventually decided to accept his twelve game suspension and he sat now for a few games well. Yesterday he made another decision and informed the world via instagram that he was planning to leave college altogether and prepare air for the two thousand twenty. NBA Draft James Weisman's should be in the NBA right now making millions of dollars and so then it comes down to making a proper business decision of what is the risk reward of coming back to Memphis at this time and for me. This is an indictment once again on the one and done rule that the NBA put in making this choice. Wise mid would seem to be a pioneer except except he's not alone he's actually part of a clear and massive trench. Just take a look at his class. According to ESPN's latest mock draft Wiseman administ- projected to go third overall. The number one pick lamelo ball is playing professionally in Australia. The number five pick RJ Hampton is playing professionally in New Zealand. And the number four. Pick Cole Anthony is a freshman in North Carolina but after he injured his knee. There's been speculation that he might right. Sit out the rest of the season to prepare for the draft and this is only the beginning at least until the NBA inevitably lowered the age limit for the draft. In in the meantime there's no way to predict how this will play out for Wiseman or Memphis for that matter. He probably would have grown his profile had stayed in school but now he can start making money honey and protect his body as best he can and while Memphis Shirley wishes he stuck around. They've won all seven games. He sat out even beating a ranked Tennessee see team. The only thing we can say with any certainty is that the biggest loser in all of this is the NC Double A.. which would no longer get to benefit from wiseman services services come March? They might have won the battle against him in Memphis but as time goes on. It's obvious they're losing the war times and this has been ESPN daily. Our show is produced by Michael Bolton era toy Farkas Alexandre hyacinthe. Sarah Kazadi Jason Co Sarah. Mike John's Steve Martine Ryan Intel David. Rosie Andy Tennant Tro Tro Christie Menello. Erinvale I'll talk to you Monday.
Liberty City: How One Miami Neigborhood Spawned Legions of NFL Players
"Quick just like introduction and say. I'm from like just like that. My name is Chad Johnson from Liberty City to give you my coordinates coordinates forty Fourth Street and Eleventh Avenue. What is it about Liberty City? Something in the water has something in the water. We produce us some of the best skill position players to ever play the game. If you don't know about us you hear about us. The Super Bowl is about to kickoff. Talk in Miami's hardrock stadium but the heart of football in the city exists about ten miles north in a neighborhood called Liberty City. It's scenario that most visiting fans won't see but it turns out more. Nfl Star still just about anywhere in the country today. The story of the coaches coach's parks and community behind this hotbed of talent in the players who have given back. I mean at times it's Friday. Hi De January thirty first this is espn daily presented by indeed. Aw Gwen Cherry Park. which is in Liberty City is where players like colts wide receiver T Y Hilton in former steeler Antonio Brown grew up playing pee wee football yesterday yesterday? NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell showed up here to unveil a new turf. Field and several. Local officials spoke at a ceremony to commemorate the occasion the in addition to building strong children Mister Dale. We build champions here. The gwen Cherry Paul Bulls have one six. Pop won a super bowls. And I think that's the total number of the Patriots have won so we can't be doing too bad and at the moment as we speak fifteen. NFL players will come from this part does NFL players include Teddy Bridgewater Amari Cooper Delvin. Cook Labonte David remarkable list given that Liberty City is home to around twenty thousand people. I spoke with one of the neighbourhoods. Youth coaches not. My husband's father tyrone my name. Is Taro Hilton. I coach I don't know how many kids but there's a lot of kids in Miami here Gwen Chair Park coaching since nineteen ninety nine. So I've been coaching in for a number of years and I enjoy coaching these kids here. What does liberty city like? You got to be your own man like I tell you why you gotta be on Man Maybe neighborhood you have a bad and you gotta good but it's up to you to follow the good. You know you see wrong over there. You don't have to go way wrong. You go way right. Just do the right thing. So what was it like when you were growing up here when I was growing up here it wasn't as bad as it is now. You know you got more games You got more stuff to Troubled kids can get into right then and there. You know You fight you get back together as friends now you fight the guys see you next day you know it kill you. You know. That's that's the hardest part about you know growing up. Here is my violence now than when you're a kid it's more violence way is more violence more violence you see a gunshot You know you duck and everything. It's it's really tough stuff you see on. TV Israel who are some of the NFL players. He came from this neighborhood. Wow it's a whole lot. You Got T. Y.. Hilton you. You Got Tonio Brown. You've got Teddy Bridgewater. You Got Devante Freeman. We own a football field. devante Freeman on that bill. devante Freeman wasn't running back always always had devante Freeman at quarterback so I turned Costa offense. He walks up to coach running back. I put him at running back. I actually really did and I said wow look at this kid him before I knew it. He's running back next level. They take them through the mill. They take him to the ground. You know Tamp Down Bill Amok yelling at them screaming at him to make sure to get right. That's why you see motives. Were colleges now come. They come down. They told me Nick savings over like four times last week. This is found. This is this is to ground right here. There are so many activities comfort. You know whether it's on the pee wee we level what is on the college level whereas school level. You know to get good quality coach. I remember watching you coach Peewee a few years ago. I think there there were like four five year old kids but usually four or five year. Old Kids it's just run run run you know one kid. Everyone chases they are running place. Yeah T- wise little boy. I think you saw touchdown still remembers on that side of the field. And it's just a football instance. Now here I mean you see a little kid at four and five stopping on a dime going across the new and it gets better and better as you grow up. You Know Glenn. Cherry Park is now hosting the third generation of the Hilton family. On the ninth field. Open tyrone son. Ty brought his own sons nephews to practice and carry on the family tradition receiver for Jerry. Pollock just taught me everything I know we had. We had star pledges sit on a bench waiting for the competition was always there to competition was always so you know always full five deep. Every position always wanted to give back community. You know Chad Johnson did Repairman data for me to follow in the footsteps. She knows on your identity paid for this is why we're gotta gotta you know so. I'm always here every year every chance I get another workout so I'm always you got my son. You know my my close friends you know Rochelle. Oh Cato Buki Raj and my tight end I used to play for the coast. Ross traveled. No He's in second grade and he's playing with third and fourth graders in my my son Jean. They're dominated seventh grade football and basketball. They have lost the game. Never know the kids that I grow with you know a lot of kids. That's competitive competitive. Drive as you so I wanna see that you know because you know anything competitive job. It ain't like this so you know it's pretty special. Oh absolutely you never want to forget where you come from your mom and dad always I mean on no forget where you come from so I always always come back to give back to the kids. Let them know you know. I was saying shoes I was in the same season that you can trust me. You can do it coming up Chad Johnson and teddy bridgewater on what it takes to keep the liberty city football culture going and how they get back at espn daily were covering the greatest sports stories in history. We know what makes the Dream Team. And when you're hiring for your business unit recruits that will become champions. That's why you need indeed for Your Business indeed will help you find the best playmakers for your business with tools like online skills tests. That help candidates show. They're the perfect. Hire for you. Post your next job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills test. Ask for free. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms conditions and exclusion supply. Uh One of the first liberty city products to make it to the. NFL is also one of the most outspoken. Former bengals wideout Chad Johnson. Game Day. Like when you were a kid fun trash-talk five ten thousand people coming to watch. Oh eight nine year olds play. It was yeah might be exaggerating yes whole neighborhood neighborhoods. In general it was during a war zone or the drug wars back then during the eighties and nineties. Everything cease everything. I was like The peace treaty. Innocence like there was no robin. No killing football. What's going on with the rivalries between the kids teams intents big? That's big no no different than steelers bengals. You know how the the fans that you know serious that is and that exactly how it was back then even this is even high school. It carried carried on high school northwestern plan Jackson or now even today's like northwestern and central the team. That are really good. It's too big. You say like you know how guys from different areas have different style or swag to them. What style of like you know a guy from liberty city? How did I play the game of football loud often viewed as obnoxious arrogant? Cocky you say kids in Liberty City kind of learned certain. Yes we start you start that as early. You'd have to go to a game now understand what I did on Sundays. They're doing right now at eight years old. It's the same thing I just chose not to stop once I made. Did you grow up a lot of people who had the same dreams as you but didn't manage to fulfil them some of them. I still talk to today. There's only two ways is out the streets sports and most of the guy that took the street route or dead Few that did or in jail that I still talk to today in most of the ones that got locked up when I was in high school or just getting out there just getting out of jail. Why do you think so many guys like followed in your footsteps steps out of the neighborhood is more so really not my first step is just that that sense of wanting out you know what was your out? Is it going to be academics. Or is it going to be sports and as kids grow up and you have a dream and that dream for most is to play an NFL and you stick to that dream and just just so happened when you get the opportunity you know. They made it and so many having but those that have made the most of their opportunities in Liberty City is most well known for its wide receivers robers. It's also produced a number of talented quarterbacks including one who comes back every chance he gets. I WANNA give a shoutout to liberty. Liberty City is your boy Teddy Bridgewater Office at Miami northwestern in Western senior. High School. Also play quarterback winning on his right. Now we're about. We're just north of Liberty City so the area that I grew up in right in the central part of Miami and Notice those were all house will take place. We sat down with Teddy Bridgewater outside Nathaniel. Trans Powell stadium. We played high school football without from Nike Key. The stadium recently underwent a two million dollar renovation thing trash pile stadium is important to Miami because it is the home of high school. Football in south Florida is difficult to have your own stadium in in south Florida so seven different schools share trash POW stadium. When you talk about you know the different guys who come from South Florida who've gone on to have great NFL careers? They played in this stadium. I play my first high school. Football game here play my last high school football game here. I've worn many games here. I lost some games here. Didn't lose many but Shed it to us here. Tears of joy tears of defeat. Man This stadium it means a lot to me. Transparent stadium is located just three three miles north of gwen Cherry par where to Hilton others. Got Their start in football. I grew up two minutes down the street from Gwen Cherry Park. I just didn't play quinter part part for me. I was actually better in baseball than I wasn't football and basketball. And if you ask anybody from south Florida thought I would have went pro in baseball ball. Ty was good in baseball also. But I think he was. I thought it was better in basketball baseball player but Yeah man you play so many different sports down here just to stay active and to stay out of trouble. I grew up in in an area where you guys are selling drugs. On this corner. There were prostitutes on this corner. There were abandoned houses and they were doing drugs in and I felt like playing football and go on to the parks safe zone. Because everyone knows that the parks off limits mm-hmm so you know playing sports. It gave me that sense of security a place that could be a child and not have to grow so fast uh despite his commitments during season bridgewater's maintained a constant presence in liberty city. I come back every chance I get every chance I get with the schedule that we had in New Orleans. I was able to come home on on Sundays after games and just ride through the community. Let them see me like man. This guy was playing football on Sunday. And he's back here. You know Monday. visit the high school and things like that. I just try to show everyone that. So you know. I'm I'm just like them. Still I still get the same twenty four hours you get an I still bleed just the way you do so I try to let them know that man. I'm I'm still just the same guy and that's the main reason I go back because in those same neighborhoods. There's the next Teddy Bridgewater. There's next Amari Cooper. There's the next Duke. Johnson you know and they need to see us in the flesh and as long as they see that we're able to be touched and we're with an arm's reach that makes a difference in my life. It definitely makes a difference in Lilla for bridgewater. As with all new players. We spoke to who came out of liberty. City is one guiding principle to see the neighborhood become more than just a place where a handful of kids makes the NFL but rather a place where opportunities are found beyond the football field. I give back something. That's more valuable than any dollar Is Time time you know. They need to see they need to spend time with you because a Lotta people can just donate a dollar and going about their business but to truly invest your the time into the community I think that's the most everything you can do. I want to see Liberty City. Eighty continue this say liberty city too often times. We're losing people. Releasing our babies. Losing our kids and teenagers not senseless violence. And things like that so that we could just all come together. You know whether it's athletes with the platform or you know people in and office with different powers and give these children resources to not make decisions that they're making thrown away so much potential away their lives. We can all come together and do that. That's the ultimate goal for me. That's what I want to see. Do coming up players getting ready for the super bowl moment remember their favorite plays from past championships. New Year new budgets. Every small business has unique needs when you partner with Dell Small Business Technology advisor you get real time tailored advice. He'll even give you a free audit on your servers and storage devices to develop a custom solution to help improve your company's productivity plus right now upgrade to windows ten and and get up to forty five percents off select business computers with Intel core processors to speak with Adele adviser call eight seven seven by Dell. That's eight seven seven by Dell. Here are a few more stories and what you know. Final question for the niners brought back one particularly painful memory for me. What is the best play you've ever seen in a super bowl? The favorite was always a patriots. Fan coming up right. So Malcolm Bola we went to the same Junior college me and my component went to the same duty community indicates pages fan as well so we picked their ball off on third and go from the royal line. Tom Brady Light. Those are the biggest biggest player in my. I live like I'll play ball with his nephew so like there was definitely like the most exciting play overseas. Puerto Seahawks Fan. You're breaking my heart gene. Triggering me I'm a Mississippi boy so definitely gotta go play. What is the best place to roll? You've ever seen raw or Malcolm Butler said that I'm a corner so definitely go play. Lay you've ever seen in a super bowl Play in so many. Probably Return. steelers had James Harrison that. I was pretty incredible I. I was kind of rooting for the cardinals. But at that point it was like way to go. I mean I know the big man needed oxygen after that but that was absolutely credible so the best player I remember seeing in the Super Bowl oh James Harrison against the cardinals. I didn't think he was going to finish it. He finished it. He got to his own. The Best Player I've ever seen in the Super Bowl. I didn't see it live but I'm going Adam venit teary gave when he kicked for the Patriots. I love that you chose the kick got to. I mean that's that's what I love watching when it comes to football but every superbowl memory. I'll say patriots versus giants Tari Cats. The helmet was pretty amazing crazy. Kids thanks to James. Winchester Debra Lawrence various ward. Chris Lamont's Harrison. Bucker are in our money watts for taking us on a trip down super bowl memory lane. Now let's hear some of the forty niners favorite Super Bowl memories Probably Kitsch I thought that game was over so in that Baldwin. It was one of those. It's in the air you have time to This game's over over and then time to oh my goodness they might win the game And so it was just. It was just an interesting moment as a kid to watch the giants Patriots Patriots Super Bowl. The helmet catch was unbelievable. Deborah definitely opening kickoff was the bears versus the colts. Devin hester tickets to the house. That was that was lit. Oh it was that was that was probably the best player I've ever seen. Because he caught you off guard. He just took it to the the opening kickoff. The greatest return ever I gotta so the one that just recently my is unbelievable Blake Gray officer mind getting the the job done. What's the best you've ever seen in a super bowl play in a super bowl? Probably had to be the titans and the rams chance the reach out but he was sure. I I like that play. Just Marshall Faulk Wash Fair so outside we see him when a super bowl and how close part could be sent Tom. Position oriented like the kicker so choosing kick the defensive guys choosing James James Harrison and Malcolm Butler kind of shakes out that way. I guess I don't know why it's like that but I guess you know show position Zubov look listen right here me being in memory so again Dante Pettis Mike Person Kulla Witherspoon Sheldon Elden Day. Jerick McKinnon and Marcel Harris. There's no question that both teams or remember the Super Bowl for the rest of their lives. I mean and this has been. ESPN daily our show is produced by Michael. Bolton Sierra Toy Farkas Alexander high sued Mike. John's St Marteen Ryan Intel Davidson Rosie. Andy tennant and Tro Chris to Menello aired Vail especial. Thanks this week to Stacey pressman clevelander and Mike Right. I'll talk to you on Monday
Lamar vs. Deshaun: Dual-Threat Duel
"Hi It's Munich host of the ESPN daily podcast. Wake up to the best story. You'll hear all day twenty minutes a day five days a week where you get an inside look look at the most interesting stories that espn as told by the top reporters that insiders on the planet the breaking news is sportscenter with deep dive storytelling of thirty for thirty. Today's episode Soda One. I thought like please listen and subscribe to Espn daily wherever you get your favorite podcasts. The shot said I can be as electrifying as anybody but I'm going to play the position. Lamar has said I WANNA learn the position as well they both to be outlawed from the NFL to pull this off because they will not be stopped. That was hall of fame quarterback Steve Young talking about this Sunday's matchup between two. MVP CANDIDATES TO SEAN walks. In and Lamar Jackson is is the first time these electric quarterbacks have faced off in the NFL after each overcame skepticism for people who doubted their potential. Play the most important position in the game today. Why so many got it wrong? And how Watson and Jackson or changing the narrative about dual threat quarterbacks. I mean times it's Friday November fifteenth this is Espn daily presented by Dell. Small Business Okay. This it's happening. It's happening Dominique Foxworth on ESPN daily. The people left messages. They left the reviews. They said we won't Foxworth surprised. Dominic Foxworth is a former. NFL Player in a writer at the undefeated. Dominique Texans at Ravens and to Shawn Watson versus Lamar Jackson. I am extremely pumped to watch this football game I read. How could you not like their playoff implications locations about like the first round by then you have to? MVP caliber quarterbacks going face to face is not even that they are efficient. They are exciting. Like Lamar Jackson is spinning people out of their shoes. Talk back and forth these. Install into Shawn Watson taken feet to the face and throwing touchdown passes and he goes down. This might be the most exciting game of the year. Well plus back up. This is not the first time. Climb these two. quarterbacks have played what happened during their last match against each other in two thousand sixteen in College. We have a Dula. Death Got Bali Mubarak Jackson the new sensation in the sport. But the Shawn Watson. Is this delete veteran. Lamar Jackson was at Louisville. A Lot less talented Louisville. Going up against Clemson. It was everything that you wanted talked Watson. It lived up to the hype. Both of those guys had great games. I think Jackson had nearly three hundred yards passing any at one hundred. Sixty yards rushing shing two touchdowns rushing one passing. Scores standing up and walking is right back in this game and Watson won the game with over three hundred yards passing and five touchdowns through the air in ninety one yards rushing fires. It was a great game and it was close. Lamar Jackson and his team came up. Just short of the end zone Jackson the back then then in two thousand sixteen. What was the perception of both of these quarterbacks like I mean Lamar was Ryan? Pretty high ended up winning the HEISMAN. EISMAN trophy that year and the Shawn Watson didn't do too bad himself. He won a national championship that year. I think people were very very high on both of them right well. So as you mentioned Sean went out and won the title. That year seemed like a no brainer that he would be a starting caliber. NFL quarterback a sure thing thing and yet the draft comes around and he falls to number twelve. He was picked behind Mitch Trubisky and Patrick Mahomes. What happened? I don't know it didn't make accents. Because he didn't just win the National Championship. He came from behind throwing the ball through the air. Picking apart the Alabama defense which was loaded with. NFL talent tally. It seemed like what more do you want and then the very next year. Lamar Jackson also faced skepticism when it came to his prospects in the NFL now there were some respected people at this network and elsewhere who thought that maybe his best chance of succeeding in the NFL was the play receiver which it just made. Absolutely no sense heisman. Trophy quarterback who wasn't running the option in college was running a a pro style offense essentially at least a passing place pro style. Why anybody would think that he needed to switch? Positions was dumb founding you and I watched him very closely dominique ahead of the draft. We actually wrote a piece together. They're about what it would take for him to succeed in the NFL. What was your conclusion from doing that? We look more deeply into a player's background background in on field performance than I had with any other player and I remember being surprised at how developed a pocket passer was because all his highlights the highlights that resonating resonating. Your mind are him running so you think well maybe. He's like a running quarterback but no the criticism about him was not at all about his ability to read defenses or run a pro style offense. The criticism about him was about his accuracy which is fair but he was much further along as far as being an NFL pro ready quarterback then most guys will get kind of tag egg with Dole Threat Right. I went to his day in Louisville for our peace to do some reporting what did strike me about being. There was during his throwing drill Brielle. Seeing how bad his wide receivers were they were dropping passes right and left. Yeah and I would think that having bad receivers frankly or just generally a mediocre talent would bode well for him in the draft process. That people would recognize that he was that entire program the success that they had while he was there was because he was great. And and it's interesting that you bring that up because somehow teams looked at him and didn't appreciate that and then they looked at the Shawn Watson and maybe part of the reason why he slid was because because they had so much talent at Clemson so like People looked at Shawn Watson and they might have seen maybe a guy who is just orchestrating a bunch of great talent and not a great talent himself. I'm not sure how they could watch the film and come to that conclusion. At the time I remember being kind of confused by it but I don't understand. How else do you select him behind? Somebody like Mitchell Serb. Isky Dominique what do you remember from watching the two thousand eighteen draft. Well first of all. I remember watching it in a dark room with you. In Bristol. We Awesome Sorta live show and it was really fun. And I remember Lamar Jackson showing up in that beautiful green suit and feeling optimistic about him. Landing on a team early early because I frankly thought he was the best quarterback in that draft and then watching him slowly. Sit there and all the time passing by and I remember thinking. There's no way that they're going to let this heisman trophy. Winning Uber towns at quarterback. Go into the second day but the Raven swooped in and grabbed him where the thirty second pick pick in the two thousand eighteen. NFL draft the Baltimore Ravens. Select Lamar Jackson Louisville. All right while I'm sure that he was uncomfortable in that moment and he did not. I'm joy sitting there in the green room with the cameras. Keep checking on his sad face but it worked out because I don't think that he would have the success. Many other teams you. Use The word confused to describe your reactions to watching these quarterbacks drop in that draft but really I think you have some thoughts as to why it happened now. Oh Yeah I wasn't confused or shock that said that because I seem like the right to say like I'm black man. I'm very aware of the the unconscious. Or maybe sometimes conscious bias day that goes into the decision making that happens in football and sports beyond beyond that is just as difficult when you assume that there's so much riding on making the right decision that people have a difficult time getting past whatever biases. They are to try to succeed. So I'm not surprised. I think those those players that are brought up earlier like the contrast bear I think makes it more glaring than anything else is like when you look at Lamar Jackson Shawn Watson. Why are you more prone to see someone like rg three or c career path? That's not as successful than you are to see a career path of a quarterback who did succeed. There's just kind of faulty narrative out there that I think a lot of people whether knowingly or not kinda ascribe to is that mobile or Athletic Dole threat are or frankly just black. quarterbacks don't Pan out when they get to the NFL coming coming up how does Shawn Lamar proved the doubters wrong espn daily. We tell the stories of the world's greatest greatest teams coaches bill championship teams with players uniquely qualified for their roles. That's why you need indeed for Your Business. Indeed provides tools like skills els tests to help candidates show the perfect hire for you post a job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills tests for free that's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms conditions. Exclusions apply So Do Shawn Watson was picked twelfth he lands in Houston a city a team that to that point head. I think it's fair to say a pretty tortured history When it comes to quarterbacks what happened during his rookie season yeah so? For whatever reason he didn't start heart disease and found a coach and bill. O'Brien who was on the hot seat and he finally turned to Shawn Watson a few weeks into the season and he was outstanding. He we had a game against the Patriots which was kind of his welcome to the NFL moment or at least he welcomed the NFL. To to Shawn Watson again so touchdown Texans take the lead. He led them to a fourth quarter lead with less than two minutes left. It was thirty three to twenty eight and it took Tom Tom. Brady two minute heroics to get that win. He did that as a rookie against the Patriots and then he went on a run after that threw for four touchdowns against the titans he threw for five against against the chiefs he threw for three against the browns and then four against the seahawks he walked into the NFL and just lit it on fire and people were believing and then he toys ACL Zeo which by the way I? It's important to note that that was a non contact injury right wasn't because of like. Oh in another mobile quarterback getting tackled and getting knocked around He wasn't actually hit when he tours ACO surprisingly the risk that he puts himself in is not because he's running the ball. It's because he's holding onto the ball and he's in the pocket could I think he opens himself up to a lot more hits that way but I would much rather have the Shawn Watson where my ceiling is super bowl and maybe we have a bad year because it gets hurt but at least we. Every year we walk in we have a chance at the Super Bowl. I think his rookie season was interesting. Dominique because as you mentioned he wasn't the starter right. I believe it was Tom. Savage at the top of my head. then Bill O'Brien when when he brings him in after savage goes down he completely the changes the offense on the fly June protected. scaping get walk of answer is going to get there for. You're all of a sudden now. This team feels different right. It feels different. They could we saw that with Shawn Watson and we also saw it with Lamar Jackson when Joe flacco got hurt and the Ravens went on a a nice winning streak and again made the playoffs and save John Harbaugh job. It was in midseason. And I can't think of two quarterbacks or more different in styles of play then Joe FLACCO and Lamar Jackson Lamar head. What eight brilliant? Good Games in a row and then he lost in the playoffs and all of a sudden everyone's like exe- he can't play in this league. Wait till a team gets a chance to gain plan for them. Wait till they get an off season to prepare for him. He's GonNa fail. He didn't play well in that game but he came back this year when everyone had an off season to prepare for him and he's better than he was as a rookie and everyone spent their off-season planning for how to stop this and they. I still can't stop it somehow. They're worth at stopping it than they were last year. How did the Ravens approach this offseason? They went all in one. Stay selected Lamar Jackson excellent draft and then he showed some promise last year they decided to make everything about their team built around the success. Lamar Jackson most importantly they elevated Greg. Greg Roman to offense coordinator and he's important because he had success with this type of offense or with this type of athlete with Colin Kaepernick. And he's a guy who could develop mosquito around him that benefit him. You mentioned Greg. Roman for a long time with Colin Kaepernick in San Francisco. There was a Argument I think perpetuated by people who didn't think he should be in the league that well you know he was a one hit wonder his style. Playing football doesn't work you know it doesn't fit into NFL systems. Do you think what we've seen this season from Roman and Lamar Jackson undercut sat in some ways. I mean I think think that. Not just that undercuts it. I think if you just look around the league it has been undercut so while. Lamar Jackson is Extreme example of this you look through the draft reasonably Kyle. Murray Baker Mayfield quarterback running is something that is a part of the League now in a way that it's not going to go away. When was the moment this the season when Lamar Jackson finally silenced the doubters? I think it's easy to go back to few weeks ago when they eat the Patriots. Who had the best defense in the League and statistically one of the greatest defenses of all time and we think of Bill Belichick as a guy who is so great at scheming defenses to stop an offenses best weapon weapon and we obviously know? Lamar Jackson teams. Offense is the best weapon. Is Lamar running the ball. Bill Belichick couldn't stop it. Lamar Jackson takes a snap rolls to the right now. He retreats to the Left. He's bottled up escape. Fifteen ten Jackson along the far sideline steps out of bounds at the five. Mr Impossible Escapes Vice Grip and turns a sure loss of five or six into a gain of twelve Lombardi and put up crazy numbers but it seemed as if when they needed a play. Lamar was able to get it and I think that was the moment where not all the doubters silence because it seems like. They're moving goal posts for some people because they want him to fail but it was hard hard to construct an argument any argument outside of well. He's not GonNa stay healthy or let's see him do it when they're coming from behind. There is no argument to say that he is not effective when the best ask coach and the best defense can't stop him. What do you expect to see out of the two quarterbacks in this matchup I expect big plays and I expect for them succeed? I mean as exciting as both of them are Neither of them have a great defense to support them. So I don't think it's going to be a low scoring game. Aim It's going to be a high scoring game where it comes down to. Which one of those quarterbacks can be more effective particularly late in the game well looking at? ESPN'S NFL NFL MVP stock. Watch the top three candidates right. Now are Russell Wilson the Mark Jackson into Shawn Watson. I think the public largely agrees with. What do you think that this season and what these players have accomplished has changed attitudes towards mobile quarterbacks and perhaps erased the stigma to some degree? I think the stigma should have been erased a long time ago. So honestly I have no confidence that given the opportunity to draft a mediocre pocket passer and potentially dynamic duo threat athletic quarterback. I know hopes that teams will make the decision to go and the more athletic direction. I think this does give them license to go to tm or GM to go to his owner and say we're going to do something different. You know how the Ravens had success doing something different. We're I'M NOT GONNA draft this guy. We're not going to run the offense that everyone else is running. We have such diversity of style in part because of the athletes that we have in this game. You can go from watching Lamar Jackson Jackson Shawn Watson or very different than going to watch Tom. Brady or Aaron Rodgers of Patrick Mahomes is just like a different game. No matter where you look at it and I personally love it. I look forward to watching these two quarterbacks play and then both of them finishing second and third to Russell Wilson and MVP. I'm telling YOU RUSSELL GONNA fall off. Tough second-half schedule back trophy. It's true I'm sorry. I love him Russell's great but the Mars troby watch bet on it. I'll be back in a moment with one more story. Del Celebrates your small business. This season with the Black Friday sneak mcpeek. Our biggest black Friday ever starts right now save up to forty five percent windows. Ten computers with Intel core processors for a windows seven support ends January January fourteenth. Two Thousand Twenty Save on servers plus a huge selection of the latest electronics. All with free shipping call eight seven seven by Dell. We'll talk to a Dell small business technology advisor who can help you find just the right tack. That's eight seven seven by Dell or visit Dell Dot com slash. Small business deals. Here's another story. I want you to know last week. A black cat growth the Internet when he me or she ran onto the field during Monday. Night football disrupting giants cowboys. Game for what felt like an attorney wasn't incredible sports moment but the Monday night football cat. Who by the way still at large was hardly the first animal to bring an important game to a pause there was a squirrel that ran onto the field during airing? NFL Game at Wembley Stadium. The jacker scored a touchdown during an Oregon Stanford game and about twenty years ago. Chocolate lab named Tubby who streaked onto onto the field during a Georgia tie game a story. That's notable not just because it produced one of the more memorable game calls football history but because tabby belonged to one of my colleagues ESPN senior writer. Mark Shaw according to a piece that marked published this week Tubby was named after Tubby Smith. Then Georgia's basketball coach. It was L. accounts a bad dog. Well let me correct that. There are no tall. Dogs are good dogs but tubby was mischievous dog. And he had a penchant for escaping so on the day of the game mark was in the press box at Sanford stadium covering it for the Atlanta Journal Constitution when Dora Safety Kirby Smart Guess that Kirby smart made an interception and then this happened. Somebody's chocolate lab and look at that. Somebody's dog is out there. Lauren get it off the field. That you'RE DOC WE'RE GONNA have to get the dog off the field now. He's gone to the Georgia handle. I wonder released it. That was Larry. Munson Georgia's Georgia's legendary play by play announcer. Who passed away a few years ago? Now I have two favorite details from this moment. One is the visual of Georgia's Mascot August the bulldog looking extremely forlorn as he watches. Tubby run free to is this quote from Kentucky Offensive Coordinator Mike Leach in that Mike Leach. The dog didn't have great straight lines feed but he could make you miss any made a lot of people miss that day in any case unlike Monday night football cat tubby was eventually corralled with the help of a hot dog. He's no longer with us but his memory lives on and it may have inspired some copycat crimes I mean and this has been espn daily. Our show is produced by Michael Ball. Thira Troy Farkas Alexandre hyacinthe Michael. Johns Steve Martin Brian Intel the Andy. tennant eve tro at the birthday eve. Christopher Tim Nilo Aaron Vail. I'll talk to you Monday
The Legend of Coach O
"Why this much emotion coach such a big game? They beat US eight years. I got tired of your no so I mean it was time I told the team tonight. We taught allied. If you follow college football you probably know that voice. He belongs to a guy who's loud road tough in might be more suited for his job than anyone in America. LSU head coach at Oberlin today ahead of Monday's national championship game against Clemson. We tell the story of a man who seems like he was built in a lab to coach football in Louisiana and why despite that. It's actually surprising that he ended up there at all times. It's Friday January tenth this is espn daily presented by Dell Small Business David. How's it going is going quite it will mean a thank you for having me David Hale writes about college football for ESPN so your story is about coach? Ed Osea Ron really the legend coach. But I want to start by talking to you about perhaps his most noteworthy characteristic which is of course his boy to get to where you wanna go see like you have to go undefeated you have to beat Alabama you have to keep on going and then you have to win Sec Championship then you got football playoff oilfield so if you start thinking about my favorite thing in the World David is being in a room and watching someone here at for the first time because because it really never fails to shock. Anyone who's hearing we knew was going to win that game. Today we started Monday. NO-GO windows gape go. Don't you want to write his autobiography. Just so he can also do the voice over work. What's on the menu at the odor on household today? What are we got cocoa? My mom made a special gumbel but it was on. We'd better win the game. It would just be so wonderful. One of his first jobs was at Arkansas. As assistant strength coach the players there thought he was pranking them they. They didn't think that anyone actually talks that way. And they couldn't make heads or tails of what he was saying. Either it was. He's just he would get excited and start saying things with this gravelly Cajun accent and then he pointing the direction and they would just go do whatever was in that direction because they had no idea what he he was saying but he was saying it loud enough that they were afraid of him and it was only after like he'd been on the job for a month or two that they were like. Well I you know he's kept us up a long time. I guess that is his voice. We love the voice. Everyone does now but it at times says constant now. Yeah he's coached in some places that are not Louisiana. Yeah everybody talks about how he is Phyllis you but he was in Miami he was in Syracuse. He was in USC and and his last stint in USC he came on to replace place Lane Kiffin as the interim coach there had some success at USC. And I think there were folks there who would have loved to have given him the fulltime job because he had that success. But there were also folks Has Been reported by numerous folks I think including Bruce Feldman that the voice was one of the reasons you couldn't hire him as US's sees coach because you're the voice of the program. You're the face of the program you're the identity of the program and that's not USC right that's not La. Look at how he talks. He's not the model of USC so we can't hire them and there's a lot of folks at USC or probably kicking themselves for that exact thought process now. Well the voice is a perfect fit for Lsu else you I mean just about everything about co is a perfect fit for Lsu. It's almost like if you reverse engineered a coach based on Louisiana Anna Football. It would look sound and act like him and he's got roots right. In the state of Louisiana. He is from the Food Perish. It's bio country. Outside of New Orleans. His Dad grew bon shrimp boats ways just every bit the sort of central casting version of what we think of as Louisiana. You know if you've watched waterboy you kind of have a rough idea of what I think it owes runs. Background is one of the great anecdotes that his mom gave me. Okay so he was in second grade and broke his leg and the doctor fitted him for a cast. It went from foot all the way up to the upper thigh and he picked up some trudges out there and play football on crutches and about every week or so she would have to drag him back into the doctor's office to get fitted for a new cast because he would get it so dirty and muddy and mucked up from playing football in a full leg. CAST I'm sorry they let a second grader. Played football. I don't know that even let is the proper word there so much as he just went and did it So he kept playing in high school then college got to high school and he was a full grown man from day one one and he was a big guy and went to college as a defensive. LINEMAN ended up at Lsu for a year and hated it because for the first time in his life football ball was hard he was not having immediate success. He was not playing routinely He was being forced to go to classes. He wasn't super eager to go to and and he left. Lsu went back home and thought maybe that's the end of college football. And I'll go get a real by job like my dad and I'll go work on a shrimp boat and turns out. You may be surprised to learn that working on a shrimp boat is much less fun than in football And so I think that was you know when you talk to his mom that summer after he left. Lsu went back home to work. Real jobs was was a lot of ways sort of a turning point for coach. Oh and that he got a taste of what life is like when everything is not being handed to you to. How did he end back in football? He decided he needed to go play football again which meant he had to go back to college which was not really his favorite thing but he decided to go to northwest Louisiana State. That's where he finished his career and then went looking for football coaching jobs and the first job he could find was as a strength coach and soccer. Yeah shocker this. Like three hundred pound beast of a man finds a strength coaching job. And the job. Java's with Arkansas. Ken Hatfield to coach the time Ed walks in. And he's this beast of a man and he's got that voice and he's so excited and he's like I don't know if he can do this job but he sure looks the Bart's so we're going to hire them and tell you ended up getting into coaching. He worked at Arkansas for a little while and I think he really wanted to to do something. More than being the strength coach the ends up landing miraculously enough at the absolute heart of college football in the nineteen eighty s and early nineteen ninety S. Which is at the University of Miami? They celebrate a Miami the Hurricanes Complain and the coaching on the same staff. Tommytucker Ville tougher telling me they were. They went down to Key West on vacation. You want one year and they're in like this Nice restaurant having dinner and get the talking about football technique and overrun so excited about it. He likes slides tables out of the way and gets down the three point stance and he's trying to explain technique to to top Ville and he's like pushing tables and chairs out of the way and like diners are just looking over gawking. At what the heck is is this man doing your. But that's just sort of the approach that he brought and I think his time at Miami really offered him an opportunity to prove that ed behind that bluster and the Raspy gravelly cage invoice that there is a guy who really knows a heck of a lot about football. How did it go for him? In Miami off the field not great. He was someone who went out a lot. Drank drank a lot and the things that you could get away with when you're twenty northwestern Louisiana you don't get away with as a coach on the staff of one of the premier programs grams in college football. And so you know the story that really I think ended up up ending his career involved him being a bar. T was thrown out of the bar for being too intoxicated and he was not happy with that and ended up getting into a fight and legal proceedings. Happened in that essentially was the end of his time in Miami but I think it was also sort of a wakeup call for him so when he gets away from football ball it was a lot of ways probably very much like when he went back to work the shrimp boats after leaving. LSU Is that he kind of realized. This isn't the life that I want. This isn't who I WANNA be. I don't think that he shies away from those. Oh stories now. He's still shares them with current players in in the way of trying to relate to them and going through it and a lot of ways has probably been in what pushed him to turn things around and become the person that he is. Now coming up. Gumbo aw Red Bull and the game that could solidify coach. Oh as a Louisiana legend. ESPN daily we tell. The stories of the world's greatest teams coaches built championship teams with players uniquely qualified for their roles. That's why you need indeed for Your Business. Indeed provides tools like skills tests to help candidates. Show the perfect hire for you. You Post a job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills tests for free. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms. Arms conditions in exclusions. Apply so David. After after coach leaves Miami. He does some soul searching turns his life around. How does he get back into coaching Escalona? Who was head coach at Syracuse? And he's the guy who kind kind of rescued that does Ron from the scrapheap. After the Miami debacle and brought Cajun at up to central New York to coach at Syracuse which is sort of mind-bending in its own right Paschal only had this program where when players returned for fall all camp in August they would do this really strict conditioning program that involved bench pressing running and a lot of it and it was Paschal Onis way of testing whether they had let themselves go over the summer or whether they had stayed in shape and so before all the kids go off for their their summer vacation Coho says to his position group. y'All better not come back out of shape and just approve move. I'm not kidding I'm going to go and do all of the same conditioning stuff you are when you come back and you better not believe. This was his quote. Get your ass whipped by a thirty five year old man. Ed spent the summer hardcore training for this when all the players come back in August. Sure enough there's at Osceola on running hundred yard dash after one hundred yard dash bench pressing four hundred and five pounds and the entire D.. Line just erupts like jumps on top of him celebrating this. That was the whole thing with him is that he didn't want to ask anybody to do something something that he wasn't willing to do to when he left Syracuse to go to USC CAL federally. Who is the equipment equipment manager at Syracuse and has been for years and years? We've told me he was in the locker room. When you're on told his players he was leaving is like I've never seen anything like it? Three eight hundred pound grown men defensive linemen just sobbing that their position coach was leaving and so I think you see going way back the way that he. He manages to connect with people that I think has been in many ways. The absolute key to his success is that he is first and foremost a people person when he went to USC head coach at the time was Pete Carroll who if Eto Doron is hard to picture as la coach it feels like Pete Carroll is the perfect right USC coach right. They're about as far apart as you can get. What did Pete make of coach? Oh He loved him. One of the really really stunning quotes that I got in doing. This was Pete Essentially said when coach. Oh left he got hired to coach at Ole Miss Because because they you know. USC is the peak of its power in two thousand and four Ole Miss Decides will. Let's get a little bit of that southern cal magic and bring it out here and and Pete Carroll said it just was not the same at USC. After azure on left it was at Osha Ron who knew all the recruits were who built relationships CBS. Who made kids excited about coming to play at USC? And who kept that excitement going for years and when he left it was still USC EH but without some of that heart and soul after being the defensive line coach at USC COCO gets a shot at being a head. Coach at Ole Miss. How did that go for him? It was a rude awakening for him. He was let go after three years as the Ole Miss Coach. But if you hear him talk about it now and you hear other folks talk about that experience experience. It's funny because I think it's very much true of both of the coaches that are in this national championship. Game is that failure has really been a lot of ways their great teacher. You're not there's no menu on how to be coach so I went on there as defensive. Line coach swatted work. You have to coach the team different had to be a CEO treat players. Let the players know that you care about them number one and number two to have the knowledge to get him to both of those guys Dabo and owed Ron have done a wonderful job. Understanding understanding why they failed learning lessons from it surrounding themselves with better people and putting those people in a position to be successful you can see see the energy appreciation. That coach has because of those experiences. Now So in Twenty Fifteen David coach Oh fired he goes to LSU fulfilling his destiny and becoming a d line coach there her then a year later their head coach. Les Miles is fired and head becomes the interim coach Les Miles to hire me. Here is the place that always is wanted to be a feel that the time that I spent at USC as an interim head coach allow me to to be a better coach at Lsu and the worst time to be the head coach and have a lot of success. What were the expectations at the time? Not much there was talk about Jimbo Fisher there at the time that maybe they'd be able to hire him Tom. Herman was another guy dipped. People were talking about. Maybe maybe it'll be able to hire him. And around the sort of the option option of last resort in people's minds but inside the program there were I think a lot more people who saw it. Who got what he was talking about it? Don't no matter who they play where they tell us to play. We come in and we kind of laughed that he's in the perfect place right because he is but that being the perfect place him being the perfect person for that job is why he's got it he gets it. He understands that program through and through and I think that was ultimately what convinced convinced Joel Lever the ad at the time we don't need to bring in some big guy from outside because we got the right guy right here. Uh How do you think that sort of understanding of LSU's identity factored into coz recruiting style. He's recruiting success. Obviously one of my favorite quotes that he gave before the Peach Bowl people are asking him about recruiting Louisiana and he said I'm going to be about eighteen. Eighteen to twenty two homes next week. So that means about eighteen to twenty two grumbles so the food is probably a big part of it. I don't I don't know if it's the only part of it but it is a big part of what he does. If your goal is to get the local guys the kids in Louisiana Hannah who would lay down and died a win at Lsu. Eddo she gets that because he was that guy he doesn't have to give you the car salesman pitcher and why you WanNa complain. LSU He has driven that car a lot of miles and he knows everything about it and he knows exactly why it fits you. David you mentioned that Co is obviously evolved a lot over the years. He's no longer that young guy going out to bars and getting in trouble but it still seems pretty similar in some ways now. Yeah I mean I think at the end of the day. The energy and enthusiasm comes through. That had one player. Tell me about how the Friday night before games. They'll gather in the hotel and they have a team meeting. And does Ron comes in to try and get them hyped up for. He walks in the room with two red bull's rips off his t shirt and shotguns. Both Red Bulls and by that time didn't matter what he said after that. Everybody is so hyped up. Because they're crazy coach just shotgun to red bull's With his shirt off and and these are the stories. This is the guys on the current team. This isn't like great anecdotes from back in the day. Like that's who he is. He is again willing to do anything to win. Football Games and to get his players players excited about winning. Football Games will be legend of coach. Oh grow in Louisiana Hannah if he wins on Monday I'd say they'll build a statue to him. I don't know if that's enough to like represent what that would mean to the community there because it look. I mean it's one thing to take a team that everybody loves and win but it means something to them that it's their guy I championship with. All the great state of Louisiana. We fought very hard every game to win every game which we did to be able to play in the national championship. Every ship is going to be staying in Louisiana. I'll players and not just the local guy but the local guy that everybody the else kicked to the curb and thought wasn't good enough. People don't really appreciate coach for his success. But I think it's the failures and the personality and and all that comes with it that makes the story so good at has made him so so easily embraced all right David before I let you go. I'm going to do my best coach. Oh then you're gonna do your vest couch. Oh okay all right. Let's do it. Let's do try to put them back into it talkers. Those pretty good. You got the Rasping as to which really worked. The thing that I have found is the key to get the real like level of of like so you call it is Ron. And you're expecting him to kind of be surprised that you called him but instead he kind of startles you so so this is this. Is that every time. This is everybody's impression of when they call coach owes. Hey that's exactly this level of like my God did I. I didn't mean to call you. I'm sorry thanks David. Thanks for having me coming up. Why The San Francisco Forty niners are bursting with positively New Year new budgets? Every small business has unique needs when you partner with Dell Small Business Technology advisor you get real time tailored advice. He'll even give you a free audit on your servers and storage devices to develop a custom solution to help improve your company's productivity plus right right now upgrade to windows ten and get up to forty five percent off select business computers with Intel core processors to speak with Adele adviser call eight seven seven by by Dell. That's eight hundred seventy seven buy Dell. Here's another story. I want you to know. So the San Francisco Forty niners play at home on Saturday and as a seahawks fan. It's not always easy for me to give credit to San Francisco but there's one area in which the niners have clear edge over the field. It's not they're dangerous. Pass rush or Kyle Shanahan's uniquely deceptive. Run game no no. It's the fact. The forty niners are the only team in the NFL. That employs emotional support. Dog The player Engagement Office team dog. Zoe lives life at her own pace but is a welcoming pitstop for the players as they study train and compete to make the fifty three man roster. Zoe is a one year old French bulldog her bark story. I'm so sorry goes back to two thousand eighteen. At the time. A niner's employee was dog sitting a French bulldog name veto and bringing the pup to camp when the players fell in love with the dog. Niners Defensive Lineman Solomon Thomas who has been outspoken about the importance of mental wellness. Ever since the suicide of a sister I encourage the team to adopt a pooch and when they found one he helped named her Zoe. The rest was history. Now when you think about it it's really quite fitting. That San Francisco is the most K niner. No No. I can't do it the most dog friendly team in the NFL Shanahan is known in for his trickery on offense and so many football terms have dog connotations. There's a pooch punt the wishbone boots. Wagle's and of course the flea flicker and yet despite their pre-snap Shenanigans. They can also really pound the ball now. Zoe Be the X.. Factor that vaults the team to the championship. Maybe maybe not but at the very least they should get a slot in the people. I mean a and this has been. ESPN daily our show is produced by Michael Ball. Thira Troy Farkas Alexander Mike. John's St Marteen Ryan Intel David Cirrhosis. KTAR Andy tennant. Tro Chris to Menello and Aaron Vail. I'll talk to you Monday.
Rex Chapman: The Content We're Here For
"My life had gone to. I do remember many days thinking my life is never going to be worth a damn again. I'm never going to laugh again and I started hosting some of the stuff. I thought our I will. This probably has some traction but at no point did I ever think that it would kind of blow up like this. That was the voice of an unlikely social media influencer a man who went from being a Kentucky basketball icon to a face of addiction to a twitter star who rose up by asking that age old question block Chart Today Ryan. Mcgee brings us the story of how REX. Chapman with from dropping. Thirty nine Jordan's bulls bringing us the content. We're all here for times. It's Friday March Twenty. Seven this is espn daily presented by. I Ryan how are you? I'm alright like most people these days. I am spending entirely too much time on the Internet. And let's start there. I want you to open twitter. Look at your time line and tell me what you're seeing. I'm seeing pandemics and I'm seeing politics and I'm seeing. Maybe a little bit of Tom Brady in Tampa Bay which is might be the weirdest part of the whole thing and then I'm seeing a guy in the rain running into a stop sign and I'm seeing a kid getting smacked in the face by an elephant and I'm seeing another kid given out free. Hugs at nursing homes and That's that's what I'm looking for. Where are you seeing this? I'm seeing that from the most unlikely source. I think maybe ever which is At Rex Chapman Ryen. Which do I notice rex? Chapman popping up on your timeline. It was probably a year ago in the spring of Twenty nineteen and I started to get the texts from friends who were saying. Have you seen this video? And have you seen that video? And have you seen? Who is posting these videos? I'm part of this generation where I remember. Rex Chapman as Mr Kentucky basketball. I mean this must be the greatest high school basketball player that ever lived and then he's the first draft pick of the Charlotte Hornets and then he's in he's the white dude in the dunk contest. And then he's hanging thirty nine on Jordan. What he's with the Miami Heat he's Rexon. He's King Rex. He's sexy rexy and I'm like there's no way this is the same rex. Chapman has to be this other. Shabina out there. That just happens to be some borrow twitter superstar and it turns out they are the exact same person I think. A lot of people seeing XS tweets for the first time had a similar reaction but I also find it very funny that some people may be in their twenties and younger might not even know who rex. Chapman is or they just think. Oh yeah the guy on twitter. You does the videos so Ryan. Let's educate them and refresh people's memories. Take us back to Kentucky late. Nineteen Eighty S. What was rex? Mania Steel Diaper Dandy. That's going to be one of the all time legend the perspective. I'll give you that. I was a north Carolinian living all tobacco road and REX. Chapman was the guy that you made. Sure you got back to your television by eleven o'clock to see sportscenter just to see what he had done he just was. It was electrified. He was so smooth he was dribble behind his back. He was dishing the ball he was Dunkin. He was doing everything that require. Frankly white dude's weren't doing in college basketball that time and this is before the Internet before you could go on Youtube and post. Your own highlight video. People had heard about him but they hadn't seen him so any chance. You had to watch this kid from Kentucky. Play Ball you did it. He was foul before viral was thing. You've been under incredible pressure. And yet you just go on with life every day even though you're probably the biggest folk hero. I guess it's Cogan. Robert Disagree with that. I don't know I just take day by day. So rex was this huge star. And as you mentioned being Kentucky there was a massive spotlight on him. How did he handle that? He handled it by Kinda circle in his own wagons for me. I just wanted to play basketball. And that's it the playing part at Kentucky no problem I loved it. I was good at it. Could handle it no worries it was off court stuff. That really weighed on me. He didn't go to the cafeteria He tried to go to bars with his teammates and he was met at the door by the balancer. Who wrecks man? I'd love Login here. But everyone knows you are if I let you in here. The police will be here in four minutes. It just was it was it was a lonely existence surrounded by people all the time but alone every moment every minute that I wasn't in class or at practise either hsun by myself or sleeping and I was I think I was rationalizing as I'm getting my rest but I was depressed than just in you know back then. You didn't talk about that stuff. He believed that eighteen nineteen years old. He was just getting his rest. But the reality was He was dealing with depression by just going to sleep St cope with it. He started playing horses. He did what everyone in Kentucky does and He started playing the horses. A pretty young age and That was another time and place where he could feel normal. You know he could go to the horse track and he could put his face. You know in that race inform and everybody else's word about their race informs and they won't bother him so after his sophomore off more year REX declares for the NBA draft and he ends up with the brand new expansion Charlotte Hornets for the eighth in the draft and their first in the NBA. The Charlotte Hornets Select Rex. Chapman of Kentucky. What was that like a? It is hard to describe to someone who didn't experience it. Would Hornets Mania was like in Charlotte? This is bad basketball team. This is a team best player was Keller trip Yuka but they set an NBA record for attendance and they sold out every single game for years. It was Muggsy bogues and Dell Curry and REX. Chapman was the Young Guy. He was the face of the franchise. You the best player on the team he was in the NBA dunk contest. Meena I mean and going behind his back I mean he was he was a sensation his NBA career go. He never played an all star game. I mean he made the all rookie team The average fifteen points for game over a dozen years. He had his moments. There was a famous night where he hung thirty nine. Michael Jordan and it wasn't just Michael Jordan. It was the ninety six bowls you know the unbeatable 's you in Phoenix. He became you know as the six man. Essentially he became the most popular guy on the team. And so it was a he everywhere he went. There was a following the end. Why didn't he keep you got old? Has All of us? You know? Father Thomas undefeated and You know over the last three years of his career he had seven surgeries It just got to the point where he knew in that two thousand season with the Phoenix signs that that was going to be his last year because it just got to the point where his whole game was explosiveness and he was not. He did not have the capability to do that anymore. I I knew I was going to retire at the end of this this twelve year. I just wasn't very good. I was spending more time in the training room than I was. Playing wasn't fun at that point and I I had an emergency appendectomy right near the end of the season. I got back home and a doctor gave me a prescription for Oxycontin They gave me that Oxycontin. And I'm I'm telling you within two days I was in love like `I greatest thing I've ever had in my life Suddenly has social anxiety was gone. Suddenly he felt like he was a better dad or better husband. But as anyone who has been hooked on opioids we'll tell you that's the karst curses says that you think everything's great because everything feels great but the reality is is that everything is not even all right after the break. Let's talk about how. Rex FINALLY HIT ROCK BOTTOM. And what brought him back Whatever you want to protect nobody has more ways to help. Keep YOU SAFE THAN ADT. The most trusted name. In security you can customize ADT security package to help protect your home in a way that works for you and your budget. Ad HAS HD video doorbells indoor and outdoor cameras smart lights smart locks smart thermostats flood sensors fire and carbon monoxide detectors all connected twenty four seven monitoring a controlled by the sound of your voice or the ADT APP. So help protect your home today with at learn more at. Adt Dot com slash podcast so Ryan in two thousand rex. Chapman finally retired from the NBA. After twelve seasons and after that kind of faded from the spotlight what happened next in his life he was a scout and head various front office jobs with a couple of different teams You know primarily work for the Phoenix Suns. He's married has four kids. He thinks that everything at home is going well but as with everything in his life has been masked by the fact that he is completely addicted to painkillers. It made me feel like I was a better dad and a better husband and all that initially. But it's it's just it's it's too slippery slope it. Yeah they say it. All the time drugs are fun and then it's fun with problems and then it's just problems as a rex. Chapman for years. Was knocking down five bottles of pills a day. Vicodin Oxycontin. I just kept pain pills by the bid under the mattress. You know. I'd sneak them out in the night. You'll meet them. Wouldn't even wake up just that that far gone like I said earlier. You it makes you think everything's okay. But it's all a mask. And it's all a sham and the reality is it's not and Danny ainge went to him and said something's wrong with you and he went to Rehab. It didn't take A little while later he was approached. Again something's wrong with you. And he went to Rehab and it didn't take and in the meantime his marriage fell apart. My Life had gone to addiction. And and it's it's tough and when you're in the deaths of you I do remember many days thinking my life is never going to be worth a damn again. What did say was his low point amidst all of this. The low point is very easy to find breaking news tonight. We're right there outside the jail where well known suspect just showed up here. He is caught on video this time. A former suns player guys. Don't police released surveillance video. Showing Chapman inside an apple store in North Scottsdale. Chapman was arrested last Friday on suspicion of shoplifting. More than fourteen thousand dollars in merchandise Shelvin was arrested and I say this is easy to find because if you google the name Rex Chapman. You don't get funny videos You don't get the dunk contest. You don't get hang thirty nine Jordan. You get the Mugshot Eleven days later he was checked in a rehab for a third time. This time is instead about West. It was Was In Louisville Kentucky and it was at a hospital that is run by a former team edifice Paul Andrews and And as of today that third trip Rehab was the successful. What was it about that trip that change things for him? I think being home Being in Kentucky certainly helped but what. Rex Is said to me was he said that the difference between this trip rehabbing the others was that this time. He was willing to concede yes. This is the right thing to do. I can remember my first day in the last rehab getting there and laying down and I'm at the bottom. You know everybody. I'm probably still being talked about on the news at this point newspapers and Internet all that stuff and I remember getting in the bed. They're laying back. Nobody there's no doctors and I laid down and I looked and I just sorta went when I really exhaled and I thought this is exactly where I need to be. So he goes home he gets clean he turns things around. What does REX CHAPMAN DO NEXT? Rex Chapman goes back to Lexington. And it's no longer Lexington it's just Lexington. And and people of a certain age know who he is and people of a certain age are still asking for autographs and are still won't hear stories about the good old days but there was also that that group from that older generation. That were embarrassed and they don't have anything to do with him because of the Mugshot in. Because they're like this dude's a junkie so year-by-year month-by-month he won those people over and And then he did what we all do he got jobs. You've got a job with the NBA TV. He got a job with The Kentucky wildcats Radio Network pregame show and because he had this public jobs. He's like okay. I should do social media any hated it. Because what he found on social media was there was no happiness it was all gloom and doom in politics and high mighty in everything. He looked at Made him feel worse and In one day he decided he'd have enough. What did he do? I'm listening very carefully because I feel like I could learn something from this next month or we could right. We're all guilty of kind of fall into this on the treadmill of twitter and it was January twenty nineteen and he was like. I'm either go walk away from this or want to change approach and he saw video of a gallon a paddle board who is headed out into the ocean. And what we can see that. That poor guy can't see is that there is a wall of Dolphins Swim Fin fin just the surface of the water. And as they're going to go under him right and then all of a sudden the last possible split-second one of those dolphins launches into the air body checks. The guy off of the paddleboard goes back into the water. The dolphins just go on and just one day so that a video the Guy Paddle boarding and school of Dolphins swimming in one of them jumped hit him in the chest and I said to myself that charge and so he posts the video and he puts it out to the world blocker charge and that tweet took off like how much like took off like he had maybe thirty thousand twitter followers and the response was so strong he doubled that number and he started posting regularly and asking the same question blocker charge by the summer. He's got one hundred thousand two hundred dollars and now he has more than half a million I don't know what that feels like. 'cause I'm nowhere near that but I continue to try to find some tweet. That will one day. Provide me with our. If you're listening. Please follow Ryan McGee right now. Espn RADI grow follows. His way they're going to be rex. Chapman caliber videos. But there's some good jokes so wreck. St- started doing block charge but since then it's expanded right. No longer is just posting videos of people getting hit expanded and expanded even more. I mean just in the last couple of weeks as more people have had to just keep it in her house in the middle of this cove in nineteen a mess. You know it. It was just slapstick. It was just America's funniest home videos But didn't expand it into heartwarming stuff. This is the twitter content. I'm here for is what he always says. It's the kid given out the free hugs at the nursing home and it saw you know these kids with Down Syndrome. Who were being able to check in play for the first time ever in their last high school basketball game and scoring points in his dogs. Bra Rex. Chapman loves dogs. Any cute dog video. He can possibly find it. Goes up there it just kind of taken on this fun heart warming make you feel good. You know make you laugh life. And it's not just about you know a guy getting hit in the Crotch with golf club. Although I'm all for all about that but but there's also you know content this a little deeper than it does. Rex believe his content has resonated so much with so many people. I think he recognizes that we all needed a break and that we all need a break every single day. Read the responses to everything that rex posts. Because it's not just the fact that the responses are coming from Mark Hamill and Richard Marx and Chuck d and The governor of Massachusetts. It's the craziest group of people. You'll ever see in one place at one time but all positive every now and then he'll get someone saying you know. Hey would you know crackhead or whatever drug addict and his response to that is almost always his own mug shot from Google and is because he wants people to know that he is well aware of what he fell into. He's well aware of what he recovered from is still recovering from and and sometimes they'll just out there on his own just to remind everybody you know it's This is where I've been in. This is who I am but But it's okay to laugh. Well given the fact that you know that Mugshot used to be the image that people associated with rex and sort of his demise after playing basketball does he feel like this is all given him some degree of redemption. There's no question about it. There have been three different chaplains. There's the basketball keenum. There's the guy who wandered in the Wilderness for ten years as an addict that we've all seen mugshot and now there's the new accidental social media influencers her and It's it's amazing to twitter's not all that bad it's not as long as you As long as you check your rex Chapman every now. And then it's It's a nice little reset button for your brain. Thanks so much Ryan I already follow you. But I'll and follow you follow you again. Take you mean a calms. I've always followed you for more on Rex. Chapman Story Checkout Ryan McGee's piece tonight on sixty and on ESPN DOT com coming up hockey equipment. Company is making masks but not for players. Here's another story. I want you to know all across the sports world. People are pitching in to try to find ways to help others. During this crisis athletes like Zion Williamson and Kevin Love pledged to cover the salaries arena workers. Do Breeze just donated five million dollars to the state of Louisiana to help afflicted communities there and Steph curry just interviewed. Dr Anthony Fauci on Instagram live. Meanwhile some companies are also finding creative ways to help for example Bauer which makes hockey skates gloves and sticks just changed its operations from any facturing gear making medical equipment our own. Emily Kaplan reported that Bauer is making medical shields which sort of looked like gigantic hockey masks to be delivered to hospitals in Canada. And the next week or so and looking to begin production for hospitals in the US to our CEO. Toll Kaplan that if out how to repurpose their plants in just four working days and now can not only help doctors and nurses but also keep their workers business. Meanwhile just days. After the sixers were criticized for cutting employees pay a move they reversed one of the teams owners Fanatics Chairman. Michael Rubin announced someone who's factories will be shifting workers from making baseball jerseys to producing medical masks and gowns with the attention of making a million of them donating them to hospitals across Pennsylvania. Eventually beyond ideally sports will come back soon but until then it's heartening to see prominent people in the industry finding ways to use their time and money. I mean times and this has been ESPN daily. Our show is produced by Alexander Hyacinth. Mike John's St Marteen Ryan Mantle. Andy tennant Eve Tro Russell. Denali Chris to Manila and Aaron Vail. We'll talk to Monday
Why the NHL Restart Can Work (Hint: Canada)
"There's been safety protocols and there's been some anxious moments they've been waiting for this opportunity but they're built Ford a finely compete against another team. The National Hockey League has returned. factored. enjoyed. One. Place up. Life hockey turns this weekend with a Non Stop Round Robin Tournament leading into the playoffs. Head of the NHL Return our greg wishing he joins the show to explain why our neighbors to the North agreed to play host and which teams are ready to face off. In what promises to be a truly memorable battle for Lord Stanley's Cup I mean comes it's Friday July thirty first. This is ESPN daily. Greg what is the best name of a hockey team in the history of the sport in wise at the Seattle Kraken? Partial to Vancouver Millionaires Back Jeanne ends gets pretty stout name that's swagger although again, adjusted for inflation millionaires back in the nineteen, what are we talking but? Is An amazing name. Grocery see covers the NHL ESPN and his Co host hockey PODCAST ESPN on ice. Well, as a lifelong crack and fan. I'm disappointed that they're not launching time for this incredible tournament, but I'll be scouting competition and I'll be glued to my sofa because hockey is back this weekend. How do you feel about it? Conflicted but hopeful NHL. Teams Fraternity to the is today for the first time since March is the twenty four teams qualified for the expanded playoffs open two week training camps. I'm really impressed that they were able to pull it off keep in mind that it's not simply just the NHL and the players came together on a way to get back to finish the season in two hubs cities. But it was also a thing where they had to complete approve a collective bargaining agreement between the two sides in route there. So it was a big thing for them to come together and figure out all this stuff in the span of a few weeks. I'm conflicted because this is a global pandemic I am often at war with myself as to whether sports should even come back but. I talked to a number of epidemiologists, medical experts, scientists over the NHL Pause who told me look if you test with frequency if you set very stringent protocols that everybody follows and most importantly, if you cut off the teams and the players from the general public to the best of your ability, this could get pulled off. So I WANNA talk to you about that plan, which teams to be going well so far in the fact that it's in Canada. I also WanNa talk about the tournament itself because it's a, it's a little bit confusing greg because it's really two simultaneous tournaments before we get to the play offs, can you explain for people how it's all going to go down? Normal NHL Season Sixteen teams advance to the Stanley Cup playoffs eight from the Eastern Conference eight from the Western Conference. Since the season was paused, March twelve and a lot of teams were also within a reasonable distance of making the playoffs the National Hockey League decided to expand its playoff based twenty four teams this season. So you get twelve out of the East twelve out of the West, but top four teams in each conference are going to play a round robin against each other to determine seeding for the next round of the playoffs. The rest of the conferences, the five, twelve senior, they're going to play a qualification round. Five game series between the teams five, place, twelve, six, play the love, and so on and so forth, and then the winners of these serious will advance to the round of sixteen. The other wrinkle hockey this time for the first time in over eight years, they will be in the playoffs. So you're the top seed in the conference will then play the lowest available see that it's not how the. Since two, thousand twelve and after this whole first routes done, we go back to the traditional rounding sixteen. Stanley Cup while everybody knows love seven game series in route to the Cup final. You mentioned at the top there's two hub sites both are in Canada one is in Toronto one is in Edmonton. Are the tournament seeding played two different sites is their travel back and forth. How is that all going to work out? It's two different hub cities the Eastern conference playing in Toronto the Western conference is playing in Edmonton. When we get to the conference final and the Stanley Cup final, the action will move from Toronto to Edmonton to the final four in the NHL will be an. And that's partially done because the covid nineteen members in has been in and out Berta as the province have been very good throughout the entire pause, the NHL felt very comfortable moving its action there the finale of season. Why was Canada cool with this but not cool with the Toronto Bridges. Hockey. The protocols the NHL put place working with a Health Canada working with the CDC here in the states presented a plan in which they were comfortable with allowing this to happen whereas obviously, the Blue Jays are going to be traveling around and having teams coming out of the city of based on Major League Baseball's return to play Pat. So yesterday on disarray podcast our future host Pablo Tori spoke with Dr Anthony Fauci America's foremost infectious disease doctor, and he had this to say about the NHL playing in Canada upper st us well, I. Think if you look at the numbers of the viral outbreak in Canada versus the United States if you look at the curve in the United States, we went up very high the highest in the world. Baseline plateaued at around twenty thousand cases a day, and then when we tried to open up the country as it were, we saw an increase in a surge so when you see that. and. If you're the league in trying to make decisions about what the cool safe havens are I think you could understand the decision. How has it been working so far? It's working well, and I think hockey fans even though there are a greater number of teams in the US and there are in Canada are pretty okay with the decision the NHL did do diligence here. There were other cities that were in contention to host the Stanley Cup playoffs with the protocols on testing in some of the other. Cases spiked in Vegas or public health, concerns in, Las Vegas Bank. And then was back in in Toronto than which relatively speaking of done a very good job in terms of crushing curve. So the NHL was comfortable going to Canada I think hockey fans were happy to see them wade out as long as they did before committing to where the season was going to play out. So, you're not in the bubble but I'm sure you've been following all the dispatches from players who are already there how is their life been? Have they enjoyed it at all? It's really early in the process I can tell you that some of the teams in the national hockey. League did some very smart things for these players for example, some team's digital picture frames in the players rooms when they are and these picture frame said voters of their families autumn. What has it been like the last couple of days for you to be in this bubble situation it's a nice hotel surroundings. But it might. It might get a little old after few weeks I guess. But so far it's been like a regular road city game and. I will say that the NHL was very cognizant of the reaction of NBA players when they entered their bubble and started photographing the food and sending out fire festival twitch the did not want that to happen. The food apparently is pretty good there but I did have one player age of tally recently that he heard feedback from his guys that made me the bathroom was. Too, small, maybe the shower was in a weird place maybe food wasn't out snuff and he put it out there to these guys look don't do this. Let's keep this on the down low things are pretty good right now let's hope they stay that way but off the hop, don't start trashing the league just because maybe the bathroom smaller than you're used to on the road. Correct me if I'm wrong here but unlike the NBA hockey players, they're not quite as friendly across teams is seems to be a bit more chippiness and in one of these hotels, we've got the Philadelphia Flyers Pittsburgh Penguins and the Washington. Capitals. All living together. Do think that's going to cause any issues perhaps some. Conflict between these. Fierce rivals. Are you asking if they're going to stop being and start getting real. God Willing. I WanNa believe there's going to be looking at Middle School Fan I. Remember back when it used to be the Patrick Division in the Adams Division and back in the day, everybody didn't like each other the animosity on the ice would carry over to real life things have changed. A lot of these players trained together in the off season. We vitriol that we usually news the tweet hockey players off the ice I don't think exist in the same way. Now now does that name that all these players that were photographed guitars into the bubble with each other are gonNA sit around giant circle advocate Jack Johnson shoes off coon bio session I think the best proxy for what the HR bubble's GonNa look like is probably the Olympic Village dare you have guys that are opponents that are seeing each other every day the all kind of live together they all interact with each other. But as you know once the playoffs get real intense, anything can happen. All right after the break, we'll discuss how this is going to look and sound wants the puck drops and who's going to win. So Greg on one of the very first episodes of ESPN daily. Thanks really coming full circle here you and I talked about fighting in the NHL The way players and fans get worked up together. The energy of seeing hockey played live in the rink. It's something you said it doesn't fully come through on screen for those watching from home. Well, that energy is going to be missing now without fans in the seats what will playoff hockey look and like Like nothing ever seen before. The NHL did a very smart thing here. They've created with sort of a made for TV version of hockey. The best way I could describe it is if hockey was held inside the American gladiator arena, they had these giant video screens led screens with lighting reads behind players benches. There's going to be twelve additional cameras cashiering the action. One of those cameras is a giant crane is going to go over the ice and almost gives us that he a sports NHL quality swooping camera in on the face off book that makes the game. So vivid fun to watch. The other interesting thing is going to be the audio. Story. We're going to have songs. We're going to have some crowd noises but during the action you're and hear the ambient noise of skates and sticks and Park spion slack around along with the Murmur of a crowd. The NHL reached out to season ticket holders with a number of teams and had them submit chants and cheers. So you might be watching the flyers game. Let's go liars fans that recorded it. They also had fans record themselves getting super excited for a goal being scored goals were scored. You can hear that audio being played. Now they also had some fans record booing I asked chief content officer, the NHL Steve Meyer. When are we going to hear doing and he said honestly I don't think we're going to have the editor Oriel bravery play booing during the Games. A refereed make the bad call however. Every hockey fan does the greatest tradition in the Stanley Cup. Playoffs when commissioner Gary Bettman brings the Stanley Cup out to give it to the winning team. He is showered with boos and jeers from the crowd. Steve. Mayor told me the only time we might hear boos is when bettman brings the cuff out because the commissioner understands this is part of the game and understand if they've got to hit the button just to make all at home. Feel a little bit more comfortable with what we're watch. I will boo the lack of booze if they don't do that that would offend me. It has to happen it's tradition. I imagine also that the teams playing for seating, take a different approach to these games and the teams playing to merely qualify for the tournament. What do you expect out of those top teams and how much does the CD matter for them? Now. That's an excellent point. Teams already are saying that they're going to take it easy with some players that are still working back from injury the Tampa Bay lightning I've talked about Steven Stamkos, their star score maybe working his way back from injury Max Patchy already from the Vegas Golden Knights one of their big scores who was actually left back in Vegas. To get treatment before returning with a team to Canada and also one of the benefits being in the round robin for teams that have more than one capable goalie in the playoffs it they're gonNA get a good look at which guy they want to go with and maybe play the hot hand in the next round but there is something at stake around Rub. If the lowest seed can win all three of their games will they're going to be the top seed in the case of the Dallas Stars in the Western Conference they finish twelve points behind topsy that Saint Louis and the case in the Philadelphia Flyers. The Eastern, conference they been eleven points behind the Boston. Bruins. So despite having no mathematical chance really out things to finish in the top seed in the in the conferences. If the regular season, the played out, they're gonNA have a very good chance with three wins to get the top seed and draw the lowest available seed in the next round of the playoffs. Which of the matchups in the qualifiers are you most excited to watch? I'm really digging a couple of teams one better at team. One team on the rise team on the RISE IS THE NEW YORK Rangers well ahead of schedule with a collection of good young players surrounding a MVP candidate in our tummy. He's a finalist for the award. They made them their big free agent signing last summer. He had a career year playing with the Rangers they take on the Carolina Hurricanes team, which was an upstart team last postseason. You're serious that I think a lot of us are looking at even though we might not think it's going to be all that competitive the Edmonton oilers against the Chicago Blackhawks the oilers have Leon dry cycle, who is a finalist for the heart trophies EP? David who who's considered to be the best player in the world right now, the Chicago Blackhawks over the last decade won the Cup three times and still have some of those players teams on the Roster Your Patrick Kane John Duncan Keith. Meena. This series reminds me of the movie where the thief is trying to pull that one last heist because he likes the parole and the Blackhawks. Still have a few of those old veteran guys that are looking to maybe get one last crack winning another championship. Patrick. What is it like to be back out on the ice again, any time you get a chance to compete for a Stanley Cup you're doing that and take advantage fully of it. So having better players familiar faces championship pedigree versus young players that are trying to forge their way to winning a championship for the first time, it is a instant sellable narrative for hockey clout series. The Blackhawks is played by Liam Niessen and the scenario. I. Definitely, the strong silent type John Dave. Patrick Kane is more of your Mark Wahlberg Punch a guy in the face type action hero. Greg sure. This won't be the last time we talked to you as the tournament progresses, but I gotta put you on the spot before it even begins. Who is going to win it all? I am taking the Tampa Bay lightning that is a chalk pick in the fifteen H. L. Experts that make picks on ESPN. Animus took delighting the win the cup. They were a team that was shocked last year in the first round upset in sweep by the Columbus blue jackets despite being extraordinarily heavy favourite in that series and in the playoffs. That's embarrassing to have a season like that and to go out four straight. Why elected to win the Cup this year well, I think they learned a lesson last year quite frankly i. also think that the vacuum of the empty arena gains are going to affect teams different. If you look at the lightning, this is a psychological damage team. They got tense last year and lost in the first round they lost to game sevens in the conference final on home ice to the capitals into the penguins ones I think this team playing in a vacuum away from any fan of the building might excel better than they would playing in a environment. I got him in the final. I got on winning a COP. I Got Vegas Golden Knights coming out of the Western conference to be there foil. I love it. I love. It are right. Greg. I will be handing over the reins of this podcast, but I'd like to pledge to return next fall to tape a special episode with you with my beloved Seattle Kraken when it all. I accept your pledge I look forward to it and I also look forward to Seattle becoming a massive hockey town until the comes back. Thanks so much. Greg let's get cracking. Coming up. Positive Change. In baseball and elsewhere. Oh. Here's another story I want you to know. To Watch baseball on television, these days is to experience a sense of normalcy. and to have that feeling snatched away from you almost instantly whenever the camera cuts to the stands and you see the Uncanny Valley of Cardboard cutouts or a headline on the car on informs you like it did yesterday that the phillies had halted activities at their stadium after a couple of staffers tested positive for Covid or if you're a fan of a national. League team. When you see someone who is not your pitcher batting is place. The new normal in baseball is that nothing is normal, but it's not all for the worse I mean don't get me wrong. The level of change were all experiencing is mostly for the worst sir born of desperation but there have been flashes of things that are actually good and fun. Take, for example, MLB's new extra innings rule, which is every half inning beginning with a player on second in order to boost offense and end games more quickly the rule has been effective at that in the minors but one is announced the purest scoffed and even forward-thinking baseball types worried it would just lead to bunt fest instead. The early results suggested not only works, but is actually birth variety and excitement are Sam. Miller wrote that instead of the anticipated drudgery so far in the extra innings, we've gotten a walk off Grand Slam a unusual fielder's choice pickle while pitches odd defensive alignments you name it all told of the twenty four possible base out states meaning the different scenarios for runners and outs we've got nineteen and that's just through six innings. The change in other words is making the game more exciting and fun so much so that many fans and analysts have begun to ask if it should be implemented permanently. And along those lines and okay, the Segue here is on the knows it feels appropriate to note that starting on Monday Pablo Tori will be taking the reins of this podcast. I will still be around, of course to talk football and maybe even pinch hit for Pablo, needs me. But something tells me. He won't need much help especially because he is an your comes that metaphor again, essentially starting on second base. Thanks to the staff that produces this show. Alexander. Mike John's Steve Marteen Ryan Intel Andy tennant you tro. Chris to Manila an Erinvale. With special. Thanks this week to Russell Danilo Troy Farkas and Gary Lang. I mean and this has been espn daily Pablo will talk to you, Monday.
Hot Seat Szn: The NFL Coaching Carousel
"Jason Garrett is done and we talk about it every single year about how you know. Hey He's on the hot seat. Well this thing right now dude. He getting bought it happens every year when the NFL season. Winds downed coaches on losing teams across. The league are feeling the heat as a ritual known as black Monday approaches. We breakdown which seats are the warmest and who might be next in line for the biggest jobs in the NFL. It's Friday December twentieth. This is espn daily presented by indeed. Dan How you doing. I'm good week. Sixteen Dan Graziano is an NFL insider for ESPN well with week. Sixteen for some teams. It's very exciting. We're looking towards the playoffs with other teams and other fan bases. Is it hot seat season. Dan Can you explain to us. How you know win coaches on the hot seat usually? It's either there's some sort of turmoil like the locker locker room is is losing. Its mind or there's some kind of internal tension between the coach and the front office or it's a coach that's been there era while and kind of is on his second or third chance and he's still like limping towards five and eleven. And you know I think those are pretty much the kind of the obvious signs ends and then I think he just sort of have to start poking around then ask the people in charge. Do you think you make a change. Your and you can find out yes you can find out. No sometimes you know Detroit short lions come out and say they're not firing Patricia Trite lines owner Martha firestone Ford announced today. That hey coach Matt Patricia and GM. Bob Quinn will be back next next season. It could get to the point where at least becomes an obvious worthwhile question to ask. How much does sort of longevity matter towards determining whether coaches really on the hot seat do coaches? You've only been there a year. Like Zack Taylor. In Cincinnati tend to get more leeway in general. Yeah I don't. I think it's pretty unusual for a team to go. After one year I mean Arizona last year did it because they were kind of changing their whole plan right like yeah Another against you. Steve wilks but we are going to draft this quarterback Kyle Murray. We're going to pair them. With the coach we thank. You can win with. You're just GONNA pretend the year two thousand eighteen never happened and start purpose scratching twenty nineteen with new coach quarterback even though we just did that. So it's pretty unusual but yeah I think like look that Taylor in Cincinnati. He succeeds a guy that was. Are there for sixteen years Marvin Lewis so when Zack Taylor gets that job. He knows he's going to a place where they're likely to be patient. Ready Kitchen to get the job in Cleveland. He knows at the place where historically they have not been patient but yeah I think usually you have to give a guy a couple couple of three years. The flip side is everybody always points out is. Is the Pittsburgh steelers of only had three different coaches in the last fifty years and have won six super bowls. You know. I think everybody would like it to be like that. Not Everybody has that kind of patients in order success. Let's talk about Freddie Kitchens. I think going into this season. The browns had probably in greater expectations than most of the teams were talking about by any measure. It's been a disappointment. Tucker said they were going to be the Super Bowl. That was the Tepe Freddie. Kitchens you know. A lot of people have talked about him and his job but he had to win a couple of these games. Going down the stretch and this was a big loss Dan. You mentioned that in the past. They've gone through coaches quickly in Cleveland. How do you think that perception affects the decision making of the browns? They don't want to would be a team. That constantly changes coaches fires coaches. But that doesn't mean they won't be because I mean you can convince yourself that. Oh I can't believe we're doing this again and but it's the right thing 'cause Freddie Kitchens. Obviously the wrong decision. Why would we compound that by bringing him back for another year when when he's shown us that he can't handle it and again I'm I'm this is me imagining an internal monologue or Jimmy has but if we have a guy that we definitely don't think it's the guy then we have to move on and try and find someone? Who is Dan you talked about? How if it's only been a year? Sometimes a team will say we. Let's give this guy a chance to turn turn things around. But it had been a couple of years in Detroit with Matt Patricia. Why do you think that team came out before black Monday and said we're going going to hang onto him? Despite the fact that he's won in two seasons as many games as Jim Caldwell one in a single season before he was fired in Detroit I I think the key is bob coined the GM he comes from New England he gets rid of Caldwell he goes in six out to Tricia who he knows from New England and the and he has sold ownership on. We can build this thing long-term. Here's what Martha firestone foreign said about her decision to bring back both former patriots quote. We expect to be a playoff contender. We expect expect to play meaningful games in December as she's referring to next season when she brings him back whatever he told them about here are signs that it can work. They've bought whether they're correct or not. I think you know the former New England crew. That's running the Detroit. Lions has convinced Detroit Lions Ownership. Here's why Piskun Work here. We're sorry it hasn't worked right away but two years isn't long enough. Give us another chance. And we'll see how much does the GM matter better when we're looking at these teams in trying to evaluate whether or not they're going to move on from their head coach well matters a lot and command a couple of different ways one. How tied together together are they did the GM hire the coach right now when Clinton goes to Detroit cold wells already? There you figure well cold. Well it's not GonNa last ask because Clinton's GonNa WanNa bring in his own guy low behold that happened so if you are the guy that the GM hired that might help you if you are the guy that the GM hired but it's going poorly and you're the first guy GM hired then. Recent history has shown us that you are the one in trouble and the GM is not there are coaches out there. They will tell you the. GM sits on spock's he talks to the owner all game. He's the voice he hears. While the coaches are down there on the field losing and it's it's pretty easy for the GM to kind of position. Himself itself is like. Hey this is my fall a change and try it another way. I do think there are situations where you see more and more around the league where it goes the other direction where the coach kind of picks gm in San Francisco Cisco. John Lynch came because Kyle Shanahan wanted him in Buffalo Brandon. Being came because Sean McDermott wanted him so I like that formula. The teens are using now where they get the coach. I coach brings in somebody. He knows he can believe in. They understand the salary cap in the same way and can do all that administrative stuff together. I think that's that's formulated. Looks like it's working in a few spots so Dan in sort of walking through the red flags thanks for coaches. One of the things you mentioned is sometimes you have a coach who's fairly successful but perhaps has grown stagnant. And when you said that the first name that came to mind for me was Jason Garrett in Dallas a team that could very well win the division but do you think even if they do that what they might still end up splitting with their head coach now that gets tricky for a couple reasons one year behind right if he wins the division. And let's say he wins his first playoff well game and he still has to do more than that. You end up letting go of your coach in the middle of January and some teams have already hired coaches and maybe you didn't get a chance to get the guy you wanted but I think in the case in Dallas. You have a coach. It's been there a long. Time and expectations have been higher than what he's achieved so I really think that it's true what we can. I'm saying all year about Garrett which is GONNA make a playoff run to have a chance to keep his job what did you say. I really didn't hear you. You need to see from Jason to bring him back in in two thousand twenty here. You gotta them drill going on back over there next question the the storm cloud hanging over Jason Garrett. That's not new. That's really been hanging over him for if not a couple of seasons at least at the beginning of this one. How do you think it affects the team? When everyone knows that a coach's really coaching for his job? It can get a team down. It depends how they feel about the coach. I was covering the giants at the end of the Tom. Coughlin her you know he's twelve years and they feel like by the time he was done. The locker room felt like disappointed in itself for not not being able to save him so that can happen and I think they're opposite situations where were players are sick of the coach and they don't they don't mind that he's gone. I I just don't I think like if you're in a playoff race the dallas cowboys. You're spending too much time sitting there thinking. Oh well we really need to win this or else Jason's gone like it's like you're trying to win and take them to the playoffs and make some extra money and get an and maybe try and get a super bowl ring that I think toward the end of the season. When when all is lost? When you're not in contention you see a lot of teams shut down down like way Carolina's performing right now as an example like the just not one hundred percent up for it and I think that can happen when there's a coaching situation? It can show up but it can also go the other way. Atlanta Falcons playing very very hard for Dan. Quinn the Falcons knock the forty niners off the top of the NFC with a seven point like win. Twenty nine twenty two final at the end game on the line. Those are the moments as a coach that you're totally live for makes you feel most alive. It was awesome Dan. Twenty you mentioned Quinn. Because I've been thinking that watching him the last couple of weeks he's got his back against the wall and I wondered do you think that changes his willingness to take risks. Send be aggressive I. It shouldn't and I don't think for most guys that does I remember. I'm just telling me when I used to. When I covered baseball baseball I covered the Yankees and Brian Cashman with the GM? Even way back in there was there was a season where he was in a contract. You and I remember talking to him and asking. Is this. Change Your perspective right like he said look I have a job. They're still paying me to do this job. which is be GM the? And so. If I don't do that well and who's going to hire me. And I think when when coaches when anyone finds himself in a difficult situation like that. That's a pretty good way tre handle it coming up. How much head coach turnover will we see this year? Goodbye Twenty nineteen goodbye windows. Seven Dell's holiday. Sales are the perfect time to say. Hello to twenty twenty and a windows. Ten upgrade upgrade save big on the latest business computers powered by Intel core processors don't forget to shop servers storage and thousands of top brand electronics. Six all with free shipping call small business technology advisor to help you find the right for your business. Needs at eight seven seven by Dell. That's eight seven seven by by Dell or visit Dell dot com slash business deals in the Monday after the final game of the regular season. We call black Monday because it's win. A lot of these coaches get fired on black Monday last year. Six coaches were fired. Do you think we could see a similar bloodbath. This time time down you do start to run a little bit. Then right if Detroit's not gonNA make a move if the judge aren't GonNa make a move and let's say for the SAKE LAKE OF ARGUMENT CLEVELAND'S NOT GONNA make a move. Let's say for the sake of argument Dan Quinn going to save his job in Atlanta. It gets hard to get to six from there right like if you just like. Just there's these these are just situations. We're watching right. Giants Jacksonville Carolina and Washington are already open. That's only four and I mean I don't think you're gonNA see too much more than that. Now there's always a surprise like yeah I think everybody says well there's always a surprise and one of my editors asked me yesterday. What do you think surprised will be? Yeah it wouldn't be a surprise but if we believe the jets and the lions and if we think. The BROWNS AREN'T GONNA move on from credit kitchens. That could be a little bit of a lighter turnover here at head coach. What is it like for you? When do you start hearing murmurs that someone is going to get like? Oh weeks out. They you start hearing those murmur. It's kind of like we've been talking about right. You kind of try and figure out what the situations are that you need to keep track of from what I do if I didn't start calling sources on this until Saturday Sunday. Seventeen Monday after seventeen. No one called me back so I've got no already and have groundwork like hey if you hear something on this situation nations can you keep me posted if if you've done it right and you've done the advance work. You can be institutions to know what's going on and maybe you know if you're lucky either. I break one. You told us what these days are like for you. What are they like for the people inside these organizations because obviously the shock waves go far are beyond any one coach? Oh Yeah I mean. That's that's the other thing check in with here. Is People you know staff it. Hey you're doing all right. Head coach gets fired. They don't announce that often coach got fired. And the quarterbacks coach got fired or the defensive backs coach got fired but but on a a lot of cases that may be someone you have a relationship with. That's an instance. Where yes I mean? Sometimes those guys can give information but you know in the the business of making sure that you build sources who trust you that today to kind of reach out and say hey. I'm not looking for anything. I just WANNA make sure you're all right. I remember after coughing coffin got fired. Pat Flaherty had been his offensive line coach the whole twelve years when I talked to pat the following year. He's in San Francisco with Chip Kelly. You should man. I had twelve years in one place to raise my kids. They weren't doing all through school in one place like my business. That is unheard of so. He was really appreciative of fat. Most of the time it's opposite I think thank each time. They wonder whether they're going to get cast. They are in limbo a lot of time. 'cause they're contractors still running and they're waiting the head coach is. Do you think going into Monday. Many of these teams already have an idea as to who they want. A target for. The coach's Curtis replacement on Monday. Monday night you'll see. Reports of permission slips going in the only team has requested permission to interview the the offense coordinator of the Indianapolis Colts the defensive coordinator in the San Francisco Forty niners etc so every owner. WHO's thinking about a change even owners that aren't thinking about changes? Most of them Keith Piles of coaching prospect. That they liked interested in for when the day inevitably comes. They'll need it last year. The hot trend in hiring head coaches was Anyone who has ever for had a conversation with Sean mcvay Somehow I you and I didn't get called. Do you think that's going to happen again. This year you mentioned solid it seems like actually were hearing some some defensive names Dennis Allen the coordinator in New Orleans Ron Rivera. who was fired is likely maybe that will see a different trend in two thousand twenty? It's possible because you do hear a lot of defense names but you know I feel like I read the same column every year. On which is we should not be looking for. Do we want an offensive Guira. I era defense about you should be looking for. Do we want a leader. You know once upon a time the Baltimore Ravens tired the special teams coordinator The Philadelphia. The Eagles John Harbach. He's still the coach and not only be still the coach but he's winning games in different ways than he ever won them before because he has the ability ready to run the building and and and he can establish the vision and be the leader and be the delegator that makes it all work. And I think that gets lost. It's a lot of time when people start to talk about. Do we want our offense and defensive guy. Do we want a young guy. Do we want a guy who's done it before you need to have somebody who has that leadership leadership ability inside of them and when you hit on that that's when you have gold. Dan in all of your years covering the coaching carousel and black Monday. How has it changed? What is different now from say a decade ago? Nothing like really seem stuff right like it's like who are the coordinators. Do we need to make a move because the fans are upset or we're just bored with this guy or like he's offensive. We need defense these young. We need old old players coach. And we need a A tale kicker. You know like I don't know I just I think teams doing it. The same way that it varies year to year in terms of specifics. Perfect in terms of the process. No I think it's I don't think it's evolved. I think that's probably kind of a story that that's probably worth pursuing and writing teams are still Dole. Doing it the same way they did ten years ago and maybe longer. Thanks Dan or I mean coming up what James Weisman's decision means for the future of college basketball at ESPN daily. We're covering the greatest sports stories in history. We know what makes the Dream Team. And when you're hiring for your business you need the recruits. That will become champions. That's why you need indeed for Your Business indeed will help you find the best playmakers. Fear business with tools like online skills tests. That help candidates show. They're the perfect. Hire fire for you. Post your next job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills tests for free. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily we terms conditions in exclusions apply. Here's another story. I want you to know not too long ago. We told you about James. Wiseman the Freshman Basketball Player at Memphis who was suspended after the NC Double A.. Found he had received improper financial benefits. The man who had become as college coach Penny Hardaway. It's frankly right in the as wheelhouse is just frustrating because it's a rule that most people most fair minded that people don't agree with. It's just an unusual situation to have a coach that coached a prospect when he was in high school ultimately becoming his college coach. That doesn't happen very often. So the circumstances are somewhat unique. Initially Memphis fought back but wiseman eventually decided it to accept his twelve game suspension and he sat out for a few games. Well yesterday he made another decision and informed the world via instagram. Dan that he was planning to leave college altogether and prepare for the two thousand twenty NBA draft. James Weisman's should be in the right now making millions of dollars and so then it comes down to making a proper business decision of what is the risk reward of coming back to Memphis at this time and for me. This is an indictment once again on the one and done rule that the NBA put in making this choice. Wise men would seem to be a pioneer except he's not alone he's actually part of a clear and massive trend just take a look at his class S. according to ESPN latest mock draft Wiseman is projected to go third overall. The number one pick lamelo ball is playing professionally in Australia. The number five pick RJ Hampton is playing professionally in New Zealand. And the number four. Pick Cole Anthony is a freshman in North Carolina but after he injured his knee. There's been speculation that he might sit out the rest of the season to prepare for the draft and this is only the beginning at least until the NBA inevitably lowered the age limit of the draft. In the meantime there's no way to predict how this will play out for wise men or Memphis for that matter. He probably would have grown his profile. L. Had stayed in school but now he can start making money and protect his body as best he can and while Memphis surely wishes he had stuck around. They've also won all seven games. He sat out even being a ranked Tennessee team. The only thing we can say with any certainty is that the biggest loser in all of this is the NCWA by which will no longer get benefit from wiseman services come March. They might have won the battle against him in Memphis but as time goes on. It's obvious they're losing the war I mean times and this has been ESPN daily. Our show is produced by Michael Bolton era toy arcus Alexandre hyacinthe. Sarah Kazadi Jason Costa Mike. John's Steve Martine Ryan Intel David Sarossy. Andy tennant trout Christie Menello. Aaron fail. I'll talk to Monday.
Like Father, Like Son? What LeBron's Legacy Means for Bronny James
"For p. you know fifteen years later and my son is about to play a high school game versus my Alma Mater in our home state. It almost seemed like it's all coming back. That was Lebron James Talking about a basketball game between his old high school team. Saint Vincent Saint Mary and his son Brawny James's team mm-hmm Sierra Canyon today story of basketball over two generations from the reporter who went from covering Lebron Highschool to watching his son play today. I mean at times it's Friday December thirteenth this is espn daily presented by Dell. Small Business. There is an intense interest in both brawny and this team the borders on maybe some of the most intense interest of any high school team of any sport. I've seen Brian Windhorst is a senior writer for ESPN. He covered the Bron James in high school. And now he's reporting Lebron's fifteen year old son brawny a freshman for the Sierra Canyon Trailblazers. These guys are having to play in arenas like I think brownies third or fourth game was in an MBA arena. They went to China over the summer for two weeks and barnstorm through China like the Harlem globetrotters then. They came home and they had a media day when it comes time to introduce their team. The Lights Go. Oh off and a highly produced video comes on like you see at an NBA game it. It is very much like a high level college or a low level professional environment. People knew who brawny was before you. He was a freshman in high school. I mean they're clips of him playing basketball circulating for quite some time right on Lebron social media channels Crowley since he was in about fifth their sixth grade. How is he has a player? He's got a terrific build for fifteen year old. He's about six two six three. I think he's a little bit taller than the Brown was at the same age. He definitely has more muscle definition than his father had. Lebron didn't pick up waits until he was sixteen or seventeen. He plays a very spot. Full game really wants to send his teammates up willing passer as great athleticism you throwdown Elliott. dunks brought down his daddy with this team. He comes off the bench most of the time. Then he is embracing his role. Are there ways in which he does remind you of fourteen year old Lebron James the way they move the way they run the way they dribble the way. Hey they walk. If I didn't have a roster for you and you just watch Sierra can play. You would identify very quickly if you Lebron James just by watching them move. So what's next for Brownie. I think it's too early to predict that. He is going to be a superstar that he is going to be a high college major your player even an NBA player. What I can tell you? Is He plays the game so much like his dad. Did you know when Lebron was a kid. He didn't have many friends and his friends funds were his basketball teammates even though he was always better than all of them he always wanted to share the ball because after the game was over they had to be friends so that shaped the way he went about the game and that it shape the way he taught his son game because his son looks to pass. I how do you think being the son of Lebron. James affects his chances chances his development how he's perceived how he's treated it's a difficult scenario for him and I don't think he is even come to grips with it even talking to people who know him while while he struggles with it at times. It's interesting when Ronnie was born. Lebron told me that he gave him his name because he always wanted to have responsibility for him because his father had part of his life and he wanted to have the responsibility of living up to his own name. He has subsequently completely reversed on that and said that he wishes he wouldn't have given in his name and it's not an accident that he is brawny. James Not Lebron James Junior. Because he didn't want his son to have the pressure to follow in his footsteps. Let's back up a little talking about the school. He Plays Syra Canyon. It's a small private school. It's tucked away in a corner of the the San Fernando Valley probably roughly an hour each way from the James Home in Brentwood. It's a real commitment to go there but it is a fascinating school loaded with the sons and daughters of celebrities. I feel compelled to name Kendall and Kylie Jenner. The reason schools popular celebrities is that they're very private so there may be the daughter of our rockstar in the second grade. They won't tell you that becomes problematic the basketball team because everybody has their names. They know who they are. They have embraced Casey as millions of INSTAGRAM. Aw So Brian. You went to a Sierra Canyon home game and that team not only has brawny James TMZ but also dwayne. Wade's kids ear. What was the scene like at the game just a small gym seats less than thousand people so school starts at eight thirty thirty on a certain day? You can come at seven thirty and wait in line. If teachers want to come. They enter a lottery system for seats for their own high school basketball. The game it's unusual school was not constructed to handle a team of this nature is their media there. There's a lot of media there but Meena the media is his documentary film. Crews I mean yes. There's reporters there the night I was there. There was a reporter for the Washington. Post there as well but there's four four or five cameras around the team at all times. They won't let you do an interview with him but when the team goes into time out three cameras and to boom mics. Come in. Because there's two documentaries -cumentaries being done on the team was being done by uninterrupted which is lebrons media company. And there's another documentary. That's being done with Dwayne. Wait and his son one of the things that you see from the players on a big playmate of a great moment in the game. They'll leap up from the bench and they celebrate. They aimed towards the camera because they've been conditioned and trained that like that's sort of the world that they're appealing to a lot of the kids on. This team are their own brands. And that's a quote from their head coach. That's not something that is is like sort of seen as a problem there what you're describing sounds like an episode of Black Mirror. That's the strange zone that they're in on one hand they say we don't want to give interviews on the other hand. The night that I was there he was followed by the uninterrupted film crew. All the way out of the gym out to the parking lot to get in the car. They're not inviting inviting in. ESPN they're not inviting in HBO. They're inviting in one of the parents media companies. They trust the Bron- footage. I remember hearing that Brawny was going to Sierra Canyon because it was actually part of the Free Free Agency new cycle at one point. Yeah I mean one of the reasons why Lebron wanted to bring his children to Los Angeles was he felt from basketball perspective that they could get a more normal environment and I know that sounds strange but if Romney were to play almost anywhere in the country he would be the best player on the team at at age. Fifteen on this team. He's maybe the seventh or eighth best player And I think that they wanted him to be in a position where he could play with other elite eight athletes and also feel somewhat normal. What about Lebron and Wade themselves do they go to the Games? The night I Went Lebron Ron was out of town playing a game. dwayne was not there but Lebron Watch the Games on streaming on his phone. That's what a modern superstar father does to to watch his son play basketball. Watches him on his phone on streaming coming up. What it was like covering Lebron as a high schooler and how it's different covering brawny at Espn daily tell? The stories of the world's greatest teams coaches built championship teams with players uniquely qualified for their roles. That's why a you need indeed for your business. Indeed provides tools like skills tests to help candidates show the perfect hire for you post a job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN ESPN daily and tricycles tests for free. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms conditions. Exclusions apply Sue Brian. This isn't just another basketball story for you covering Brawny James. I season playing for his high school. Now lay it sort of brings things full circle. You covered Lebron James in his freshman year of high school the very start of his career. How did that come about the night that I went to see? Ronnie play was the Twenty year anniversary of the I game. I watch Lebron play which his first game to the day. Actually the night that Lebron started he was fourteen at the time time and they played in front of maybe four or five hundred people and he scored fifteen points and I was working at the Akron Beacon Journal at at the time I was still in college and I had gone to the same high school. Saint Vincent Saint Mary so I was aware that there was some special young players including one particular particular freshman. I pictured my bosses. Let me go cover the game. As that sees it went along I kept pushing for more and more coverage and when they went go to the state tournament the bronze freshman year they really hadn't been exposed to much media and so they asked me. Even though I was very wet behind the ears myself they asked me to come come speak to the team about media. They were going to get at the state final four and that day the allstate teams have been announced macron. Did Not make first team all state state division so I gave a little presentation about what to expect and after the presentation we asked for questions in his hand and said how come. I didn't make the the all state team I said. Well sometimes freshman don't get the recognition. They deserve you know. So much you have to pay you a little bit even Stanford. He was very upset about that. There was actually a time in lebrons life where he felt like he was overlooked and not getting enough attention. You spoke about how now there's an entire ecosystem around high school players we get these hype videos. What was that ecosystem like back? Then in the early days of Lebron high schooler clue with no social media so his arrival on the scene was print media which was the cover of sports illustrated through his junior year. Chosen One the chosen one living his coming out party was during his senior year when ESPN televised a game. In Cleveland Against Killick Adamy how good is what Raj h which well simply put Dan. Lebron James is the best high school basketball player I have ever seen for. Yeah he might have made fifty or sixty million dollars that night. Because his dominance in that game his ability to put up highlights that we could show on Sports Center for the next three months to back up the hype as he did elevated the desire to see him. You can't do that today because there's a slow bill but back. Then the rush of attention almost was more valuable Nike and Adidas and Reebok. But we gotta have this kid Besides what he did on the court. What would you say was the impact that Lebron had on high school basketball Lebron unchanged the way players looked to take advantage of their situation? He wouldn't have used the verbiage back then but he built a brand doc before he even knew what he was going to go play. He was able to get one hundred million dollars from Nike. He became a brand with the way he played and it earned earned him a lot of money. We still haven't seen the absolute duplication of him. who was the perfect personality with the perfect game? Perfect time. But there's a lot of people trying Basketball's unique sport in that regard right the way it caters to youth and sort of our ability and desire to find fee. NAM's at a very young age is pretty specific. You WanNa get an early. That's why one of the biggest things that people consume in college. Sports recruiting is one of the reasons that the draft is such a big thing for the NBA and the NFL. Because people WANNA know. WHO's coming Ming next especially in basketball? Where one player even if that player is eighteen or nineteen years old can change the entire team and that is why here? We are in two thousand nineteen sending reporters to Australia to report on Lamelo Ball because people out there are are fascinated by what Lamelo ball could become and that existed before Lebron but in the wake of Lebron has been magnified in some ways. This almost reflects EXPEC on Lebron. As much as the pressure is applied to brawny right. I mean it becomes a referendum on how he parents how he's keeping his son in or out of the public. I mean I remember a few months ago when that clip went viral Lebron celebrating at one of Suns Games. It became a hot topic of debate. It almost I mean. How do you think that affects him? While I do think that Lebron enjoys attention and he is aware that the cameras are on him at all times and so when he celebrates at those games James. He's well aware that is going to be captured. But there's no doubt that he loves being there he's talked about how going to produce games has reinvigorated him one of the reasons why I think that they are doing the documentary that they are capturing the video and putting it out is it's going to put out anyway and so I think Lebron's look if someone else is going to have control of it it might as well be us and so I think that's a two thousand nineteen way of thinking that we'd never would have thought even five or eight years ago much less. When he was in high school? There was a wonderful moment that was captured of him. Giving his son Advice is younger. Son Bryce Bryce was down in the Brown was giving him instructions downhill so for no reason played a hell of a game. GotTa worry about making suffering missus. It is a wonderful moment of fatherhood at the same time. It was captured because a camera microphone. Were there to capture it So they we live in both worlds protecting nurturing but also taking advantage of it and that's the world that CR Canyon Franklin is taking advantage of his It had to have felt a bit. Surreal Brian going from being the only reporter in a gym to where there's documentary film crews at these Games and I mean we're sending out news alerts at ESPN. It's just such a different world. Now you yeah to see the media coverage to see the players react to the cameras to see the cameras be there every second. I mean people probably. We wouldn't believe what Lebron looked like as a fifteen sixteen year old. Those Games are lost. No one will ever see them. This we will have forever. It is very very very different but I am not filled with nostalgia saying I am filled with wonder about Sierra Canyon and everybody involved with the embracing the new way and so I was looking backwards that night I was looking forwards. Thanks Brian Coming up another family story this time about the bills goodbye. Twenty nineteen goodbye windows. Seven Dell's this holiday. Sales are the perfect time to say. Hello to twenty twenty and a windows. Ten upgrade save big under latest business computers powered by Intel core processors officers. Don't forget to shop. Servers storage and thousands of top brand electronics. All with Free Shipping Call Small Business Technology Advisor to help you find. Find the right tech- for your business needs at eight. Seven seven by Dell. That's eight seven seven by Dell or visit Dell dot com slash business deals. Here's another story. I want you to know on Sunday night. The buffalo bills play the Pittsburgh steelers lers and it's going to be a historic moment. Not just because it's Buffalo's first Sunday night game in twelve years but also because it'll be the first time in in more than ninety years that's three brothers will play in an NFL game on Pittsburgh side you've got traded men's running back and Terrell admits the the team strong safety and I'm Buffalo. There's tremaine plays linebacker trae. Terrell and Tremaine aren't the only brothers in the NFL. Of course there are at least two other players on the steelers alone with siblings in the League linebacker. TJ What has jj and Derek Marquees pouncey. Pittsburgh Center has has Mike but the edmonds are unique in several respects last year when Tremaine and Terrell were both drafted. It was the first time the two brothers had ever ever been picked in the first round at the same time. What I love about? Their story is dot while their Father Ferrell was a former. NFL tight end. The entire family attributes much of the boys success. Their mother Felicia according to a piece by the athletics. Lindsey Arcangelo when the edmonds brothers were young Felicia who is a PE teacher train them and speed and conditioning. She would wake them up for school two run laps in hills and have them sprint. While holding potato chip they could not break in their hands to teach them how to move without tensing up. All three boys went to Virginia Tech remain would bring his teammates home. His mom's workouts left them exhausted. Now that all three are in the. NFL She no longer trains them since they don't get home very often but she'll be there on Sunday rooting for all of for boys and I imagine particular form too many times and this has been. ESPN DAILY ESPN. Daily is produced by Michael. Bolton era era troy Farkas Alexandre hyacinthe. Mike John's Sarah Kazadi Steve Martin Ryan and Tell David Sarossy Andy tennant eve. Tro Chris to Manila in Erinvale. I'll talk to you Monday
Get a Grip! NFL QB Secrets to Handling the Pigskin
"Hi It's Munich host of the ESPN daily podcast. Wake up to the best story. You'll hear all day twenty minutes a day five days a week where you get an inside look look at the most interesting stories that espn as told by the top reporters that insiders on the planet the breaking news is sportscenter with deep dive storytelling of thirty for thirty. Today's episode Soda One. I thought you'd especially like please listen and subscribe to Espn daily wherever you get your favorite podcasts. Anytime you get a good spread on the football. I think there's two good pressure pressure points. There's this finger in this day. I used to put this middle finger on the top as my hands crew. That's just foul right where I do it. My hands aren't the biggest ring finger on the end. End and fifty four down. That's Tom Brady Carson wentz and Baker Mayfield talking about the most clutch relationship. In any quarterbacks life is grip on the football itself. It's unique unique and personal as a fingerprint forged over a lifetime of playing today. We get a firm grasp on how quarterbacks hold the ball and Y I mean times. It's Friday November twenty second this is espn daily presented by indeed. Dave I got to give you a hand. You've really got your finger on the pulse of the NFL. Joe This project snap right. Oh No rob brutal day. Fleming is a senior writer for ESPN SPE- N his latest journalistic toward a force is on NFL quarterback grips. Well let's start here. What made you want to write about quarterback quarterback grips in the first place so there was a trick we used to play? I used to play on Peyton manning you could never get him to talk period if you ask them like about his family or his brothers or anything. The shades would just come down and he'd be like signaling the PR the people but if you asked him about like a cornerback took an outside stance on a third down pass play a month ago he would talk for like forty five minutes nonstop. It's remarkable that nobody he asked anybody let alone quarterbacks these types of questions honestly can see them their eyes light up when it's like you're not asking about an injury or an upcoming opponent. Tell me story about. Who taught you how to group of football and all of a sudden? It's like a one question interview because they just go for ten or fifteen minutes. I thought at the beginning there would be such little differentiation between the grips and the stories that we wouldn't have anything but it was like almost every conversation revealed something really cool about either. Who taught them or a quirk to their or grip? It was a cool window into quarterbacks. What is the most common way for a quarterback grid there are seven leases on an NFL football? So if you're holding out in front of you and your right hand. The thumb obviously goes under the pointer finger goes between the top lace and the the cone of the football and then they had like this language. It's based on what lace your Pinky tucks into whether a Tux under the laces or over the laces and then what lace your ring finger is on. The most common thing is to under five. Which means your ring finger is on the second lace and your Pinky is tucked below the fifth lace the pointer finger and your middle finger are the last to leave the ball and that really determines trajectory and spin and so a lot of guys say that those are because they're the last one touching the ball? Those are the most important there. Were a couple of guys who I was like. Okay I have to chop off one finger and then you can keep throwing knowing which one would it be and most of them chose the pinky. I was surprised. That is a very strange question to in McCoy in the backfield. They're gonNA throw a DNA Psych Celtic touchdown learn. So when you ask these quarterbacks about how exactly they hold the ball. What kind of answers did you? There are little quirks and tendencies that every quarterback has with their grip. Most quarterback coaches will tell you to leave space between your palm and the football. Patrick mahomes loves to palm the ball. Somebody like Josh Allen Matt Ryan. Tom Brady those guys. Have a pretty traditional grip. Where it's you know? Ring Ring Finger over about the second lace and pinkie honor around the fourth or fifth. Oh and then. Of course there's Ben Rothlisberger who literally sounds like he's never thought about added more than two seconds. You always have time to find the laces I think. Sometimes you catch. I always give it like one quick. Turn if I get. If you don't have all just come out that answer. It didn't surprise me at all. I think one thing. I've an interesting about your story. It's not just about how these guys grip the ball. It's how vacationing to grip the ball. What are some of the origin stories? For how these quarterbacks develop their grips so one of the origin stories that actually I found quite sad sad was Mitch Trubisky. No poor guy shouldn't pile on but his dad claims that he could throw a spiral at the age of two. You and then Mitch went onto. Reveal that when he had no one to play catch with he would just throw the ball up in the air and run under and catch it and throw it again. I I thought that was. That's either like a Calvin Hobbes cartoon or the saddest quarterbacks story I've ever heard Uh Josh Allens was similar in tone to that he claims that he sort of learned or strengthen his arm through throwing rocks in his backyard byard or out of his dad's workshop and I actually thought this was kind of cute. His Dad was like well. Maybe you could be a quarterback sadder Mitch trubisky with no one to throw to or Josh Allen so lonely that he just throws rocks against the dumpster dad which I do today. I don't know go throw rocks. SNAP DERIVE GONNA cut it loose. There's red late touchdown Atlanta in that Ryan's mom also have some influence on his group. Are Mom always would tell us when we were young too not to bite your nails because that forefinger you want a little bit on on the end of it to get that last little bit for spiral so the only way she got him to stop biting his nails was she was like look that index finger that nail is the last thing to leave the ball and if you wanNA throw a tight spiral you better quit chewing your nails this would make a great. PSA for MOMS who are trying to get their teenage H.. Boys to stop biting their nails. I was GONNA say I'm a nail biter and I tried everything you know. The Bidder Nail Polish turns out. I should have just played quarterback. That is the answer to stopping thing. Well I'm sorry to tell you that's why you never made the NFL. So you've found out how these guys learn their grips were were any of them told along the way to change it. I think the best example of that is Lamar Jackson. During his rookie year. They noticed he was struggling a a little bit with with accuracy problems and his quirks that he keeps the pointer finger almost all the way to the cone of the ball. Most guys keep it down maybe two or three inches closer to the laces and he likes it just because of the stability and sort of as a way to point the ball so they said you know you should experiment with moving your finger back and I think he was cooperative. Instead I'll I'll think about it. I think they were in the playoffs. And they were at two production meetings. And Kurt Warner are you at a desk. Kurt Warner sort of throw them a football. He grabs it in his hand. Kurt Warner goes let me see your grip. And Lamar shows him his grip and Kurt Warner's like like. Oh Man I I keep my finger all the way at the cone of the ball to. He's like don't let anybody change that. If that's what you like to do keep doing it that way. And Lamar was just like. Oh that's awesome. What better proof do I have that? I shouldn't change anything then. A Hall of fame quarterback telling me it's perfect right where it is coming up. F- scouts are obsessed with hand size. But doesn't even matter. Boom boom. Boom Boom Dell's biggest black Friday ever starts now save up up to fifty percent on windows ten laptops desktops with Intel core processors before windows seven support ends January fourteenth. Two Thousand Twenty Save on servers a huge selection of electronics with low monthly payments plus. Get Free Shipping. Call eight seven seven by Dell to talk to a Dell small business technology the adviser who can help you find just the right. Tech- that's eight seven seven by Dell or visit Dell Dot com slash sbblackfriday. Dave how would you say it affects Exa quarterback script when he injures his hand. Does it force him to change it. The thing I noticed with quarterbacks who injured their hands or had to learn to read grip the football was was they were the ones who really understood and sort of had broken down the dynamics and the fundamentals and the mechanics of the grip just because they had to kind of recreate their step by step and drew brees is a great example of that you know. He gave that tutorial for for the press. What he discovered was when you talk about grip strength? It's really the way you pinch the cone of the ball between your thumb and your forefinger. Football is the one where you really have to extend your thumb all the way around into pretty large angle. I mean look at the spread between Pinky and foam. You know that's hard to do. He was like that's the most important part of holding onto the ball. Is that squeezing being of the thumb and the forefinger. So that's probably the hardest part was just getting to where I could grip the ball again and then be able to guide the ball maneuver the ball and I think that's that's what really he was waiting on as rehabbed to determine when he would come back. I have a great jamarcus Russell Story I was at his pro day at Lsu and he was spraying the ball all over the field. I mean and this is under controlled circumstances. It's going when like over receivers heads it's hitting the turf. It was like maybe connecting on fifty percent of his passes. And I'm like this is huge news. I mean he can barely throw the ball and so I follow a GM who I know out of the field house and I'm like what did you think that was not very good and the GM was like did you see see the size of his hands. They're huge and I was at always struck me to this day right. It's like well. WHO cares how big his hands are if he can't throw the ball they measure for hand size and it's like the be all end all in scouting but what they should be measuring for is hand strength? Well let's just tack on a day to the combine. And we'll do the Dave Flemming grip. Strength Test was going to say instead of measuring the hands. They should have like those things they have at county fairs. Where you gotTa grab draw you? Are This season you run same wavelength because I thinking the exact same thing. I'm like just bring in one of those grip strength things from an arcade. Let's be real people would watch. Sign me up right. Now I think of quarterbacks with notoriously smaller muller hands like your jared Goff's or your Baker Mayfield's and why agree with you. I don't sneak hand size correlates with accuracy Baker. Mayfield one of the most most accurate college quarterbacks of all time I wonder if it just changes the way they actually have to hold seemed to me that it does. I think what was striking for me when you go from talking to Matt Ryan and he talks about will you're supposed to keep this pocket between your palm and the football and I was always taught the most important thing is to not squeeze it to death and leave a pocket of space there and then you go to Kansas City and you talk to Patrick Mahomes and you say what's the most important thing. What's the signature part of your grip? And he's like well I I love Palman the ball. And you're just like nobody knows anything. There are some common elements. But it's really sort of the signature part of every quarterbacks. We're back scheme. A lot of the young guys their ability I think to transition the football inflict. The football must like baseball is some of these. Young guys are spinning the ball. So good. That was Tom. Tom Brady on some of the young quarterbacks Mahomes Kyla Murray Baker Mayfield all of them have baseball backgrounds. Do you think that affects the way they grip the football. I think it does. I think those guys like to have as much contact as possible with the football and the home said I mean. He thought that that was from all the pitching Nettie did and all the things that he learned from his dad. You know it doesn't need to be an exact science when you're pitching your hand and your grip is constantly moving all over over the baseball and I think he sort of takes that mentality especially like on blitzes or three step drop. He might not even get his fingers on the laces he just. This doesn't think about he might use a cm football as grip or as a lace and and let it fly that way that brings up another issue that I wonder her about. Which is quarterbacks are getting rid of the ball more quickly than ever right because of the rise of spread offense in the NFL? Does that change the way they grip it they they have to learn not to rely on a perfect grip to throw the ball. Every time we talked I talked to somebody. I brought football so that they could show and demonstrate and they each quarterback had sort of their own unique nervous way of either spinning or flipping or bouncing the football. So that they could grip it and regroup it. I mean they must do that. A million times so that under the worst possible conditions their fingers go back to the exact same place no matter what what did talking to. All these quarterbacks about their grips change the way. You hold a football. No here's okay. I Have Baker Mayfield hands. I think I would have been a one under four guy classic. Yeah but what it really taught me was at the end of my interview with Matt Ryan. You'll like this. There were no words spoken. I just dropped my mic and ran toward the end zone knowing that Matt and I were on the same wavelength and sure enough I look up and there's like there's like a perfect spiral and instead of being just a normal appreciative guy and catching the ball with both hands and saying thank you. That was really cool. I tried to Odell Beckham. Come junior it with one hand and dropped it and Matt Ryan literally like shook his head like peyton manning on Saturday night live and was like you've discussed me bro Thank you dave. This was gripping always happy to give you a hand coming up one man's steadfast commitment to his favorite team and to his word. ESPN daily were covering the greatest sports stories. Raise in history we know what makes the Dream Team. And when you're hiring for your business you need the recruits. That will become champions. That's why you need indeed for Your Business indeed will help you find the best playmakers for your business with tools like online skills tests that help candidates show. They're the perfect hire for you. Post your next job at indeed dot COM com slash. ESPN daily and try skills tests for free. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily terms conditions and exclusion supply. Here's another story. I want you to know last week. I told you about an unusually dedicated winnipeg blue bombers fan could declared back in two thousand and one that he would not put on pants until his team won the Canadian. Football League's Grey Cup. Well this Sunday with this team taking on the Hamilton tire cats in the championship. Game in Calgary Blue Bomber Fan. Chris Matthews is closer than ever to tossing aside his his shorts. I spoke with him to see how he was feeling ahead of this fateful weekend. So Chris take us back to two thousand one. Your beloved blue bombers were favored to win the Grey Cup. What was going through your mind at the time? And how did this come to be well. we're actually watching Monday night. Football at One of the local establishment and it was late November. Like always is for Great Cup and it was a nice year so I was still wearing shorts and We were talking to a couple of the players. that we're playing for the bombers. The following Sunday the Great Cup we had a record of fourteen and four. And I think Calgary was eight and ten or so. This was going to be a no brainer now. The next exa day somebody said to me. Well how how long are you wearing short. And I said until the bombers win the Grey Cup and as has you know there's no sure thing in sports and they went out Stan lost on the phone Sunday and have I've been back twice but still haven't won so I'm still insurance so you have never worn pants in that time. Maybe a half a dozen times if I've had to go to a funeral and only if it's a funeral of people that don't know about my whole not wearing pants saying why did you decide to stick to this because I said it would The simple as that I I used to teach school. I'm a retired school teacher and I used to try. And instill in my kids nice by students stat Your word is your bond and if you say something you'd better stand behind what it is that you say so then once. I said that I was going to do this. I couldn't very well turn around and not. That would be really hypocritical. So I I I've stuck with it. Frankly right now i. I kind of like wearing shorts all the time Chris. What do you say to someone who says feel like you just wanted to wear ashort? S- well I would say to them What if you really just wanted to wear shorts? Then you shouldn't be living in Winnipeg so let's say the blue bombers win. What will be the first pair of pants you put on well and this is not to tell you something about my wife She would probably prefer that. I wear my shorts because the first pair of pants that I put on because it's been eighteen years and not all of them fit is an old pair of zoo. Hubei's pants the hammer pants parachute pants. That's the first pair that's going on. Nice camouflage gray have you had those in your closet just waiting leading prince moment. Well I used to wear them all the time to tell you the truth but yeah they've been just sitting around and I thought well what what I wear because This is now crunch time. I'm here and I could put on my if he will my funeral pants but they're they're really kind of Dressy so I thought what else do I have. And they were zoo bad so after. This is all over again if you guys win. Are you GONNA go back to wearing pants. full-time mix them in or do you think you're going to wear mostly arts. I'm still going to wear mostly shorts but at least now it gives us some options of other things we can do It will take away the stairs when I go to concerts and You know Plays and things like that and we'll be able to get into old fancy restaurants now but most of the time. No I wear the shorts. I quite like some. So what are you going to do with the blue bombers lose same thing. I've been doing for the last eighteen years wearing shorts and waiting until next year. Good Luck Chris. Thank you very much I mean this has been espn daily. The show is produced by Michael. Bolton Era Troy Farkas Alexandre hyacinthe Mike. 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Vinsanity: Is This How Vince Carter's Epic Career Ends?
"They're going to give a defense. He's GonNa take three Vince. Carter leaves the floor heroes. Well they got the gay and a great way to end this Vince Carter. It is twenty second season berries. The three that three pointer taken right before the NBA suspended season could be the final shot of Vince. Carter's career its journey that spanned twenty two seasons eight teams in countless electrifying moments. But if it ends now how will we remember his impact on the game today? Jackie macmullan helps us take stock of a career and a player who never want a ring but outlasted everyone. I'M UNICOM'S IT's Friday April tenth this is Espn daily presented by ADT. Jackie the early ending potentially of the NBA season could also mean the end of one of the longest runs in NBA history. Which at this point is perhaps the most remarkable thing about Vince? Carter's career right. I mean the fact that he's forty three years old he still playing as not playing for great teams so I wanted to start there and ask you a simple question. Why well it's a good question and it's funny because if you go back the fact that this dude has played four decades and played above the rim and then learn to play below the rim. Because that's what I always look at okay if you're a high flying guy and you couldn't do that anymore. Well why are you still playing? Disowning love to the game in respect to the game and the players that played. So that's Kinda why still do it? There's a certain small small number of guys that have incredible Immortal Street cred with other players and he's one of them. You mentioned him to younger players and there is just explode. Can you put in context? How unusual it is that he has played for twenty years. Well it's incredibly unusual because it's taxing game. When I knew I was going to come on this podcast with you. I happen to look game. Seven of the Eastern Conference semifinals which. I'm sure we'll get to but the reason I looked it up because I was curious. How many minutes he played in that game he played forty eight minutes in that game and he played during an era where you played forty plus minutes when the games were important. So that's why I think it's even more remarkable that he's been able to spend four decades because he played during a time when the best players played a lot. So in the intro mentioned that that might have been vince. Carter's final shots a three pointer for the Atlanta Hawks in overtime. What at the season been like for him and his team before that moment. Well it's interesting. They're they're interesting team. I'm sure they're disappointed. Travis Shank has one of the smartest Johnson the league he learned under the Golden State. Warriors Franchise drafted well brought in some really good young players and sprinkled in some veterans to teach them some things. Hence why Vince? Carter is on that roster. Remember I told you before about young players is exploding trae young as one of those players. Because I asked him out to me I still see DECISI. The highlights crazy events has been a true G. for me he's been a guy can lean on. If I have any questions I can go go to him anything. I ne- I can go to vent so and I'm sure he's learned a lot from him but they underperformed if in fact this is the end of the season for them. Now I'm not blaming Vince. Carter for that but I would say that as a whole I think he envisioned being the iota to a bunch of really sharp. Young jet is that we're going to shock the world and it didn't go that way even so even though. The hawks have been disappointing and people thought there would be good. I don't think they were pegged as a championship contender. Not even a playoff team. No for some people. That's what's confusing right about Vincent. Some of these final years. It's not liking. He's ring chasing. I mean he's not playing on excellent teams right. I want to say man and forty-three I've no I couldn't do it. I wouldn't attended so he must love him. I mean the four-decade thing is cool. He's the only one that's done it. The thought I always had was why not go back to the raptors for one last dance now as constituted there a championship contending team even with Kawhi Leonard Gone. So maybe there was no space for him. I just always thought why not go back to where it started where the wounds have been healed to some point really because that that is the sports writers. Fantasy what you're describing crisis poetic for him as you know. Our fantasies never are in line with the people that actually have to fill for us. Tom Brady's on is do. We have to go there again place. We will not talk about Tom. Brady the bucks on this episode. Jackie Vince announced going into two thousand. Nineteen that his twenty second year in the NBA would be his final season. Which you're going to you got you got another run. I got one more time. You got one more time out three years ago. You told me two more years two years ago. You told me two more years now. We're getting back. We're down to one. I met this one. What did you think when you heard that? Well you know what I thought was wow. Here's a guy who everybody seems to really really like. Who's a good teammate? Who has a really fun? Exciting highlight player. And Wow he just never got a chance to even reach for the brass ring. I think he got to the Eastern Conference finals want. It felt like maybe Vince. Carter's career should have been a little smoother than that was. That's what I was thinking. How has he adapted because playing for more than twenty years the NBA doesn't just saying? I want to play for twenty years. And it's not easy and you alluded earlier to the fact that his game has evolved as well. What has happened there you know. In his early years he was a highlight donkey machine. All the way back to high school this gung man. It's going to North Carolina. The McDonald's all American game dickey won the slam dunk contest. And he was just one of those Dominique Wilkins kind of players. Wow in you with athleticism. I always thought he was a much more complete player than maybe people gave him. Credit for is just so much more fun to see him flying through the air and doing three sixty don'ts and weaving the ball between his legs and Dunkin it. I mean all the things the rest of us just dream about in. What ways would you say? His career is sort of a microcosm for the evolution of the game itself. That's wow that's various media. Thank you very much. So because although the game itself we know now three pointers are what matter. We still value athleticism in the NBA. But we know it's fleeting because we have a long line of bodies that tell us that but I think to just to be able to handle yourself with professionalism to be able to be a positive influence in the locker room as opposed to a divisive one. Your career is going to last a lot longer. You mentioned you know he sort of this locker room guy this iota. Now you've been around him a lot over the course of his career. What is he like? It sounds simple and I don't even know this to be real because I've never been with Vince. Carter out on the town or I don't know a lot about his personal life but he's just one of those good dudes at least from my perspective from a guy that you had to cover through the years. He was respectful very intelligent. Very perceptive very intuitive and emotional I loved the emotion when he was young and he he'd lay down those Jamesy do his own little version of the Shimmy. He's also very private right. Yes but isn't that so smart? He learned to be that after he had a very public event of course when he went back to graduate from North Carolina because he promised his mom he would do that and he did it on the morning of game. Seven of the Eastern Conference probably not the best day to choose but of course. You don't choose these things they just happen. And I think Vince Carter thought he was a little more multidimensional than guy that could just slam a basketball through rim. I think he thought of himself as a very intelligent African American Man. That could make good decisions that he was more than just a basketball player. He was involved in his community. And those things that are important to them and I think he thought he'd be applauded for that and it's still one of the great debates if you get into a room with ten people it's probably going to be split five and five on whether he did the right thing. Let's talk about that moment and history in the NBA. After the break Lou coming up the most controversial moment of Vince. Carter's career Jackie. Vince is a household name now and has been for a long time in fact since I was in junior high but new C. Did your eyes explode when he saw me tell the truth tell the truth what? I see in the NBA. That I ever get to be. But when did the basketball world I get a hint of who he was? I think probably in North Carolina and of course anyone who goes to North Carolina is always GonNa be compared to Michael Jordan. Very unfair comparison of course. But I think you saw some of the explosiveness of Vince. Carter all backed them. He was such an aggressive player. Man This guy goes to the hall. He has going for it. No regard for his physical wellbeing played with a real flair. That I I remember at the time. Thinking was quite striking here. Just announced that. I'm making myself Elliott Wolff in the NBA draft. And hopefully I'll be affected playing. What did you think about him ending up with the Raptors? After of course he was initially drafted by the warriors. Just remember thinking I wonder why gone state wouldn't take a chance on this guy. He seems like he has a chance to be special. I still think if you asked me name the one player in Toronto Raptors history now of course Kawhi Leonard will steal that now. But you know Mr Raptor before Leonard. Winning that championship Vince. Carter is the person that came to mind and yet he didn't really play there a very long time. If you've just brought so much excitement to that franchise. He had a chance to be the face of Canada in the basketball world. Well Vince really exploded around the world in the NBA. Dunk contest in two thousand. And of course Paul Kennedy spent that he has gosh no ever seen on. Here is my favorite. Everybody has their favorite mine was when he went up had his elbow on the rim. Like almost like he was sitting there drinking a cup of my favourite British. Tease fresh fresh. Oh yeah and I think I'll slam the ball to that was my favorite one. So it wasn't long after that that he had what was probably the most controversial of his career backing it up. When Vince was drafted he said the day before I left to go to college. A mother sat me down. He basically wrote out this contract saying that if I left early to go to the NBA. I promised to go back to get my degree. I said sure where was I? Flash FORWARD TO MAY TWENTIETH TWO THOUSAND ONE. He is graduating from UNC. The ceremony happens to be the same day as game. Seven in Philadelphia against Alan Iverson. And the seventy sixers craze. Just crazy. So everybody's thinking well all right. We know he promised his mom but he graduated. Is that good enough. Does he actually have to go to the ceremony? Mom wanted him to go and I think he wanted to go. I think it was important to him. So let's just think about it. This is the biggest game in Toronto Raptors History Game Seven Eastern conference semifinals against Allen. Iverson one of the most incredible talents. You can think of and your very best player. The more you knew that game dressed in a cap in a gown and a pair of those really uncomfortable dress shoes that no one should ever wear. And he's getting his Diploma in North Carolina. Now the game is in Philadelphia Pennsylvania. He Walk to graduation his Mama's there now he's got to get on a plane and fly back and he arrives just afternoon time to his destination. But everybody's wondering all of that motion on a day where usually players do a walk through have breakfast. Turn off their phone taken out. What will this mean for the Raptors? And how will it affect? Vince? Carter and maybe if he had known at that moment that it was going to be the biggest basketball game of his career maybe he would have made a different decision. I always loved it. I've had play arguments with my colleagues and friends about this. I loved the message. If you WANNA talk about. What a lot of his teammates were doing the night before that game or the opponents were doing the night before it again. Come see me what he did seem a lot pure a lot safer a lot more noble than what they may or may not have been doing the night before a big game but because of the results everybody thinks well he made a mistake quarter traffic and go back and look at that shot. It's such a difficult play. He gets the ball in the corner. He does a little pump little double pump and he's got tyrone hill. Who by the way was very good defender flying right at him and he missed now? Did he miss because he went to Chapel Hill to attend his graduation? I don't think so in the heat of the moment. Great Athletes Elite Athletes Stars. They're not tired in that moment. They're not thinking about. Did I do the right thing? All they're looking at the rim and thinking. I'm going to make this made my decision and I was gonNA stick to it and I was right decision because if basketball didn't work from two thousand one on graduate and do it again. I think the time there was a thought. Well he'll be back the raptors. We'll be back. This isn't the end of this but then obviously it didn't go that way. I mean what were his next few seasons. Toronto like well. There weren't that many. That was the high point for at least during the Vince Carter regime. He started the injuries that I mentioned before he was struggling a bit. He had a very now. I guess infamous interview years later with with John Thompson talking about. Did you give your all of that? Franchise and John Thompson wasn't questioning Vince. Carter I think he was just trying to get to the idea of what it's like when you're the superstar and all eyes are on you and you physically are struggling and then you're expect to carry this team that had made some questionable decisions that hadn't given you perhaps the supporting cast that you had wanted. You know he was at odds with Richard Petty Not Richard Petty the race car driver petty. Pdd who was in charge of the raptors then. They did not see eye to eye. And Eventually Vince. Carter ends up asking for trade. The fans the fan base. They were never going to forgive him. He also dominated in his first game back right. Oh it was unbelievable. Because he's a great player. It's so he was rejuvenated in a new spot. The spot that he left new. They'd gotten fleeced and they were angry and they took it out on him. And then this idea that maybe he hadn't given his all while he was there. That's the most unforgivable thing of all so after an signed with the nets is when he of enters that final phase of his career. Although I see final phase it lasted a very long time. But he becomes the crafty veteran right. And how does he start contributing at this point? Well it's kind of interesting. I think it took some awhile for him to get used to what he should and shouldn't do that. Maybe going down the middle of the paint and trying to jam on somebody said can I just say I'll never ever forget I was not there but seeing the highlight of him literally jumping over? Tim Duncan of the bow line. All deadlocks postwar is. Tim Duncan he jumped over. Tim Duncan I mean that is just one of the most incredible things day that I've ever seen on a basketball court and you know those days were over so he was a smart enough basketball player complete enough basketball player that he could do other things. He always a good rebounder. He could distribute the ball. And you could help. These young players developed the kind of work that enables you to play for decades. We'll end called them crafty veteran jockey. I don't want to downplay his contributions I mean he still had some big moments including potentially retribution. Right for missing that big shot against the sixers was almost identical. It's creepy how close it was. Including the little clutch same corner hits the shot at the BUZZER. And it's funny. We think. Oh well. What's the big deal if you said a million bigshots in his life but even he admitted now. I can be happy. That was years of waiting for that opportunity that prepared for and to actually go in. I can live now. I'm happy convinced us the same exact shot that you took in that playoff series against the one and you told me you practice that shot every day where you thinking about twenty seven. Yeah I remember Jackie. When I came back to Toronto it was booed a lot. There were signs. Did the fans there ever forgiven. Well you know we always talk about story broke endings. It did happen for Vince Carter. It happened late in his career. He was playing with the Memphis. Grizzlies two thousand fourteen. And he went back to Toronto where he had always had great success as an ex raptor and they made the decision to do a video montage to celebrate him. Just witness quite an amazing moment. Here Vince Carter has received a standing ovation. That has here's as is I start showing it and they were the booze within something really amazing happen all of a sudden. There were some cheers cheers. Got Louder to the point where the cheers completely blew away. The booze and people were standing and clapping and Vince was looking at it and pointing to his heart and you know waving to them to the fans and then he just started crying just tears rolling down his face it was. It was an incredible moment. Now I'm tearing up just listening. Maybe it's the Corentin little emotional incredibly right so if if that last shot we saw was Vince Carter his final appearance on an NBA court. What would you say his legacy will be? His legacy will be one of the most electrifying high plying fun players to watch but a player who never really got to enjoy the fruits of all those talents. Do you think that bothers him that? That's going to be such an integral part so I think if you're Vince Carter. And you've played this long and you've played for this many teams. You just love the game. I think if you ask Vince. What is like as he'd say. I was talented player to try to get the most of my abilities. But you know what I love the game so much. I stayed on and that's pretty cool. Thanks so much Jackie. Thank you mean. Ah Catch the east sixty episode on Vince. Carter's historic career the Saturday afternoon on. Espn coming up. Even when they're fans in the stands the atmosphere can still be electric. Here's another story. I want you to know on Monday. We told you about. Mlb's exploratory plan to bring baseball back. As soon as may scheme that would involve everything from isolating players and their families at hotels in Phoenix to playing an empty stadiums to using electronic strike zone and while some of those ideas have incurred a good deal of backlash as a statement from LB insisting they haven't settled on any plan other suggestions like the robot ups make a lot of sense but what about robot fans when the Chinese Professional Baseball League begins. Its season on April eleventh. A team called the rats and monkeys will have electric supporters sitting and standing in the bleachers. Not much is known about them. Based on the image put out they look kind of Creepy Department Store Mannequins wearing jerseys t shirts and lifting up signs. Now it should be noted. This is not the first time a baseball team has gone full westworld on us a few years ago. A Korean team called the Han. Wi Eagles rolled out something they called Fan bots three rows of robots. That fans could control remotely. They could upload sell fees to give the robots their faces not scary at all and make them cheer chant or hold up messages. There's no word yet on whether any MLB teams are considering a robot takeover in the stands. But if they do I have only one suggestion. Please don't program them to do. The wave comes and this has been. Espn daily our show is produced by Alexander Hyacinth. Mike John's Steve Martin Ryan Intel. Andy tennant eve. Tro Chris to Manila and Erinvale special. Thanks this week to Russula. I'll talk to Monday.
All-Star Bam Adebayo Heats Up Miami
"Fire erupts that was ridiculous. Unbelievable Power Athleticism with a crushing kidding. Me That was the sound of Miami Heat Center Bam Outta Bio doing what he does best destroying souls the court now in its third year. Outta BIOS had a breakout season. Earning his first all star berth and leading the heat to a surprising start today. Espn Zach Lowe brings us the story of one of the NBA's rising superstars and tells us why not everyone saw this coming. I mean at times. It's Friday February fourteenth this is espn daily presented by ADT. Isak Meena thanks for doing this. Oh my pleasure. I like small third time. That means I'm not blowing it. Debbie's whatever the numbers say. I'm not blowing Zach Lowe is an NBA insider for ESPN. His latest piece is a profile of Miami Heat. All-star Bam Auto Bio Zach. We're coming up on the All Star game and one of the first timers this year is Bam Outta bio the Miami Heat Center. Who's in his third season has really emerged as a star? Why did you decide to write about him? I like to write one or two of these a year and I really top out at two. Because they're they're so time consuming and they take so under a port as you know but I like writing about people it's it's one of the easiest and hardest things to do right. I've come to find the sweet spot to really hit in the NBA for players is like between the fifteenth and fortieth best player in the league. Like the top fifteen guys. You're never you just don't get access to them unless you've known them for years and years and years and anything after thirty five or forty you run into like why am I reading about this guys. He that interesting for casual fans it has to be a player that I like is a player. I don't want to write about someone who's game. I just think is empty calories or whatever like I want to write about someone who I think is really good and maybe under appreciated. That's the kind of sweet spot of guy for me. So why do you like Bama's player? Big Guys who can pass are like my siren song. I I love big guys who can pass and when you watch this guy play defense even more than the defense into speed honestly is the rebounding Joe Harish for through and timed his. Jump Perfectly Blue Ray through the clouds for each verse defensive rebound in the afternoon he gets these rebounds where there's like four people under the rim jostling for position and they all jump and then from somewhere else flies in this gigantic guy with these hands that must be made of. I don't know whatever's the strongest possible material that you can make and the ball goes into this crowd of four guys and then this other guy. Just snatches it away like it's nothing. He makes the kind of place where they're winning. Plays and if they come at the right moment and a game. They're like a Gut Punch to the other team. So Zack you head down to Miami to spend time with Bam is friends and his family to get a sense of who he is. Where does history? Begin? It begins with his father leaving their family when his mother wanted to move to rule North Carolina and out of Newark New Jersey and they lived in a single wide trailer in the middle of nowhere in North Carolina and his mom as a cashier at like a meat. Grocery store kind of thing. Earning about twelve thousand dollars a year after taxes. And then all of a sudden she had a son who was twelve years old and six six and could dunk. What was it like for him? You know growing up in that trailer with his mom and no one else. You know when you're a kid you just don't think it's anything right like you don't think it's it's different or whatever. He had a sense that it was hard for his mom and that her schedule was crazy and that they didn't see each other much because their schedules didn't overlap the right way but he was happy at a lot of friends. You know it was fine but he did say by age thirteen or fourteen. You Begin to realize that this is a hard life that this adult like who you just kind of looked at. Is your mom like every other mom has a job and leaves the House. And all that that it's it's hard for her and that they don't have a lot and that she works really really hard for for what they have and that's what drove him. That's where he says he got his ambition and his anger and his desire to succeed was when he realized. My Mom's life is hard. She's tired a lot and I see that and I want to change that winded it. I become apparent to him and his family that playing basketball might be a viable career for him. Once he started playing organized basketball is not till like twelve thirteen fourteen. He picked things up really fast. And you had good natural instincts and good natural footwork by fourteen fifteen. He's on the map of all the big colleges and by the time he's junior mark godfried is helicoptering in to recruit to NC state in like Landon helicopter the field of their school. What was he like a high school player? A monster. An absolute monster have regular forty twenty games just like he was just huge. These teams in rural North Carolina. Couldn't do anything with six eight dude who could dunk? But he was incredibly unselfish. He loved playing point guard. He loved passing two people and keeping them involved. He didn't want to be the guy. Averaging Forty fifty game and putting up numbers there was a story about a guy on the end of the bench who finally got into game. All Bam did was get offensive rebounds and try to pass it in the week at score so Bam grows up in a trailer with a single mom and discovers. He's freakishly good basketball when it comes time to select a college. He chooses that. I'll take more time to University of Kentucky. How does that go first? So when you win big guys get to Kentucky and this was most famously done with Karl Anthony. Towns cal says this cool you can shoot threes like it's cool you can pass and like run the offense but like we have the Aaron Fox we have Maliki Monk. You don't get to do any of that here. My thing for him get and then. Let's really get you to play the way you're capable. You're going to set screens. You'RE GONNA post up. You'RE GONNA GET REBOUNDS YOU'RE GONNA play defense can do big man stuff because if you go to the NBA. You'RE GONNA have to that stuff well before you get to do the other stuff and so- Bam that's cool like you brought the ball up. You played point guard. Like you're not GonNa get to do that here. He would just say yeah. You know I'm just GonNa do my work like I trust cal. Cal has a record of getting these big guys drafted really hi? I'm working in practice behind. Closed doors on all the fancy stuff. Whatever it takes to win whatever cow says is good for me. I'm going to do and like I'm not going to get frustrated by it. So while he was doing all the big man's stuff and games he was working on his guard skills at practice. Yup in drills with Kenny Pain. Who's an assistant? Kentucky's very close to them. At night he would come back to the and do that. He would shoot jump shots which I. I don't know if you even shot a single three at Kentucky. I haven't checked. Even if scouts didn't see all of it to coaches and scouts would come visitor pick their brains about Bam and whether they should draft him. They would all tell them. Just be aware what you're seeing in. Games is not the full extent of what this kid can do coming up our pre draft workout in Miami paved the way for Bam to head to the heat. Espn daily is brought to you by ADT. What is real protection? Well when it comes to your home real protection means. Adt The nation's number one smart home security provider with at you get all of the latest innovation in Smart Home Security combined with twenty four seven monitoring from the most trusted name in home security. You get everything from video doorbells indoor and outdoor cameras smart locks lights controlled from the ADT APP or the sound of Your Voice. So what are you waiting for? Help protect your home with. Adt GO TO ADT DOT COM SLASH. Podcast today so the two thousand seventeen draft approaches and one team that had their eye and Bam was the Miami Heat. How did he catch their Chet Kammerer? Who's the heat? Who was the heat's director of scouting now more senior position and was sort of? He's their ears on the ground I and was Bam's probably biggest fan. I and chat remembers Bam come into the workout and chat asked him. What could you shoot on corner threes? Do you think Bam solve up. Sixty percent of them they said okay. Cool because one thing we do here is we. Have everyone shoot fifty quarter threes twenty-five from each corner and he had thirty one out of fifty which is sixty two percent so he proved himself read. Evacuating your story about a particularly grueling. Workout the heat put Bam through what happened with the heat are famous for having some of the hardest workouts physically they put you through a lot of drills and a lot of running and a Lotta sprinting. Bam can do all that. Then they got to the end and the drill was a pick and roll drill where he had to switch onto the guards in attendance and stay in front of them and Bam was like offended by the whole conceit of the drill. He was offended that the heat needed evidence that he could do this. And he turns to Spoelstra and Riley in everyone who's there and said swore them said you you you must have me confused with somebody else. You got me all up here. You got me confused. And then he would switch onto Jesse Jackson and Jesse Jackson go nowhere because the six eight monster with the seven foot plus. Wingspan and quick feet was barricading every path. And you would keep. He would be muttering under his breath too. Dan Craig the assistant. Who's running the drill? The all you can do this Blah Blah and I remember I was interviewing SPO. Who is the first one to tell me this story on the record at least and he's describing this I coach. I assumed it was like laughing. Like he was laughing was good nature trash Hawkins Ono. He was serious. He was angry and I looked at pat and I was like this. Maybe a little crazy like his is this. Is this okay that he's doing? This and the other guys had been scouting for a lot longer said no this is the Miami Heat. Dna in him coming out. This is just how he is this. You gotta like this. This is good. What did PAT Riley him? Pat was pat just absolutely loved his personality and we sat and talked to him for an hour. Just get sort of blown away by his story and his background in his motivation and why he is here he was the most athletic big man at the combine in one of the most athletic big men ever tested and so they looked at that and they looked at what everyone had told him about his work ethic and his character and they said character plus athleticism is something we can work with whenever this kid ceiling is going to be. He's going to hit it because of who he is. A human being PAT said in this kid at age eighteen was a grown man. And you could tell. Pat Love that so. Bam ends up in Miami? He's stuck at first behind Hassan whiteside. When does he first starts hurting gaining traction and changing minds about him as a player to heat new hugh is good and it stressed. Spo- out that he wasn't playing them and couldn't five minutes for him and then there was a game against Cleveland. Were they. Were just getting destroyed so garbage time extended for a very very long time. And Bam's one these guys who'd like garbage garbage time for him garbage time is not like. Oh I'm GONNA shoot threes and dribble through my legs and do all this crazy stuff. I'M GONNA go out and kill people that's what I do. I'M GONNA go out dunk on people's heads and get rebounds and blocked shots and scored nineteen points on seven shots and he claims and the heat claimed to that he set some Miami Rookie record for most field goals and free throws without Amiss in a single game which is like one of these obscure records only local broadcasters will ever mentioned by Bam said it and is proud of it and from that Game Forward Spo was like I gotta find some time for this guy like he. He's ready to help our team. That's about when he also made an impact on Dwayne Wade. Right he made an impact on Dwayne. Wade's head bio another crushing slam. Dunk Anna Dwayne Wade. Told me man I tried to go up and get it and I didn't have a chance and from that moment on Duane said I was a fan. What is that relationship in like? Dwayne LOVES HIM TWAIN SAYS HE watches the Bam show all the time and they have a bet and they were very adamant they would not disclose the terms of the bet to me. But it's it's about Bam averaging something for the season some kind of stat line and I think Bama's probably GonNa win the Bet. But he was he was not gonNA disclose the terms. What is it about his personality? In his competitiveness that jives with the vaunted heat culture Hashtag he. He's a little bit nasty and he they guys with a little bit image and they'll even say this about. Lonzo who now works Has worked with the team forever. They'll say I don't think Alonzo Mourning would work in every place in the NBA yet. A little nasty to him and Bam as friendly as he is in his gregarious as he can be. He's a little nasty. He wants to win his individual matchup every game. All these guys are super competitive right like everyone who these profiles has details about. Oh He needs to win it every board game and when we played pool he throws a Tantrum if he does win Bam has that but Bam has directed to I wanNA break. My opponents will the guy across for me. I don't want him to score a basket and I want to make my team win one of the only photos. He has himself playing basketball in. His house is of him guarding Lebron because he was so proud of how he got a couple of switches was forced by James and a shot clock violation on Cleveland. Good defense by rookie. Damn does he likes to feeling of these guys. Think they can get by me and they can't. How did that manifest itself when they played Minnesota last year? That was my favorite story in the UH might maybe my favorite store in reporting IBM. And I could tell that. Kenny pain was very excited. And a little trepidation to tell the story but he told it anyway so as the final four was in. Minneapolis last year before this national semifinals. The timberwolves hosted the heat. Which met Karl Anthony towns and Bam out or in the same city and the Kentucky. Coaching staff was also in the same city because everyone goes to the final four and John cale par in Kenny pain. Who's an assistant with Kentucky organized a dinner With the two of them and Carl and Bam and Kenny Pain. I did not know this about him. Is is apparently a legendary disturbing. He enjoys getting under people's skin so they also down to dinner. And Kenny. Says Karl towns it carly men tomorrow in the game? Take it easy on my baby. Bam Don't don't embarrass them and Carl says well you know it's on air expulsion of ten double teams of. Bam need some help and Kenny said. I could feel Bam's leg shaking under the table. He was so infuriated by this entire conversation. And then the next game he he gave Carl towns. Some fits pam knocked away. Waiters came up with the actual defense. From behind towns. Towns had eleven turnovers in that game. Which is the most? He's ever had any claims he doesn't. I interviewed Karl. It's not in the story. He claims very little memory of what happened in the game except he clearly remembers that. The tumor was one. Because that's what he wanted to talk about not using turnovers that seems like a lot of turnover as you think you would remember that you had eleven turnovers in an NBA game. That's like a lot of turnovers. But he he claims like I don't know what does Bam success mean for the heat as a team and also the city of Miami the heat traded for Jimmy Butler h thirty right. So he's going to be there. He's a star. But he's not like their star than the way that Alonzo Mourning or you Don Dwayne Wade. Where there's the heat and weighed in particular view. Ban is sort of the next standard bearer of what it means to be a Miami heat franchise player and when Riley says that in Alonzo Mourning says that Dwayne Wade says that. It's a big big deal and you can tell when you bring it up Bam that it's a big deal to him to hear these people say that about him. It means something to him. Thanks so much. Always a pleasure coming up. The Astros are sorry. You're sorry here's another story. I want you to know as we discussed on Wednesday despite the fact that baseball is ripe with fun and exciting. New STORY LINES. Everyone League is still buzzing about the Astros signed stealing scandal which took another turn. Yesterday morning. The team came out and held a press conference. Which I imagine was intended to. Douse the criticism. But instead lit a fire under the Tick Cycle Eliciting Graph Criticism Mockery memes those modern-day plagues from every corner of the baseball world. For starters. The Astra's trotted out to. They're more beloved stars. Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman both of whom delivered rather stilted apologies hostile organization and the teen feel bad about what happened in in in two thousand seventeen. Who especially feel remorse for the impact in your fans and the gain a base will. I'm really sorry about the choices that were made by my team by the organization and by me but that wasn't the worst of it. No the strongest. Ir was reserved for Astros owner. Jim Crane who not only maintained that he didn't think he should be held accountable which is not something. Anyone should ever say out loud but also had this to say about the team signs stealing scheme opinion. Is You know this didn't impact the game. We had a good team. We won the world series. And we'll leave it at that less than a minute later are Jeff. Passan followed up to confirm what he heard Jim when talking about the Yankees there. Did you say you feel like this? DidN'T IMPACT The game. What do you mean by that? I didn't say it didn't impact the game so this is obviously very embarrassing but it's also extremely revealing and in my view the Lynch pin of this whole thing because it exposes the central bargain. The Astros made sure they lost their manager and their GM and incur fines or docked draft picks but they still won the world series and no one's taking their rings crane clearly believes that if he admits the sign stealing affected those games. In any way he's acknowledging those rings are tainted so he won't apologize actually apologize or acknowledge why they did what they did because his team still came out on top even if they had to sink to new lows along the way. I mean at times and this has been. Espn daily our show is produced by Michael Ball era. Troy Farkas Alexandre Hyacinthe. Mike. John's St Marteen Ryan Intel Davidson. Rosie Andy tennant. Eve tro Chris to aloe and Erinvale. I'll talk to you Monday.
Movie Rudy vs. Actual Rudy (Rebroadcast)
"Money Rudy Ruediger! Low Shy, but at the same time I'll tell you about myself. A minute interesting guy number one I dream. Big Dreams and wanted to dreams I. had was doing a movie. It didn't come at me at first until after my journey at Notre. Dame I said this is like living in a movie when I spent through. Just, doesn't happen. Voice you just heard is responsible for one of the most iconic moments in sports cinematic history. Today ESPN's. Ryan Mickey tells one of our favorites. The story of Rudy out the character of the movie, but the man whose life was transformed by a fleeting moment on the football field, and who story exemplifies what happens when the lines between fiction and reality are blurred. I mean it comes. It's Friday July third. This is espn daily presented by marathon. Volvo help protect what matters most your family. The Volvo XC NINETY SUV range of advanced safety features like an available built in booster seat for your kids, safety and comfort and blind spot information system that has your back and alerts you to cars in your blind spot wherever you go, some are safely explore exclusive offers on the xc ninety during the Volvo summer safely savings event visit Volvo cars dot com slash us to learn more. Ryan I imagine most people listening to this have seen Rudy Yes for those who have not who apparently do not have cable television during the holidays. He's all couldn't have seen it. We'll recap it for them briefly. Rudy is a story of Ruediger play by Sean Astin he is a small kid from the Mid West. He spent his whole life dreaming of playing football. For Notre Dame he tries and fails multiple times. Transfers to the school walks on He makes Vince Vaughn. Young Vince Vaughn very angry and the versions so he doesn't make address. Address for any of the Games during his senior year, and he quits, but then his friend, the head groundskeeper at Notre Dame Fortune, who I am pretty sure. It's a composite character. I can fix that. It's not pretty sure it's one hundred percents, so he convinces him to return to. The team gives a great speech. so really does, and he is greeted by his teammates and Ryan what happens next. Well. You're missing a couple of slow collapse. Dutton tells us doesn't like to flaps in team long flat, and then he dresses is teammates. Throw their jerseys down Dan Devine's desk. We won't rudy own on the roster. He makes the dress list and he gets in for three place possibly as the rudy chant cascades down from New Rodney's bleachers, and they inserted into gay one for a a a horribly played kickoff coverage, and then almost has a Sakho first. Play from scrimmage does have a sack on his last play third ever flay, and is carried off the field by his teammates to chant the still together. Rouge it. was much better. Not the first time you saw rudy the movie. Some older than you are is already in the theater. I was in college and I think it was what what follow ninety three. And Salt with my roommates, and the interesting thing was we're students at the University of Tennessee? We had just been to Notre Dame for the first time all of us we drove up to South Bend from Knoxville for a game, and so, what was amazing about watching? The movie is just stadium had not changed, and the Tom Rudy was there in the early seventies all the way up through the early nineties really all the way up until. Until about five or six years ago, the stadium itself did not change at all. The score was the same. The old wooden bench seats that knute rockne installed in the twenties thirties. There were still in the stadium. Notre Dame is a divisive topic regardless whether good or bad, and now this movie comes out and the hilarious thing about that movie was people loved the movie and a lot of them would not admit it because it was about. I'm leaving, but I also feel like I've watched rudy three hundred times especially around Christmas, time is always on cable, and it's like one of the few things the family can agree on is just. It's a great story. It is a college football equivalent of the miracle on ice or any underdog story. So the movie is released in Nineteen ninety-three, but that's not the only thing that enters the public i. The real really ruediger starts to make appearances to promote film. Is. Stories, about obstacles of life. It's about people striving to succeed. It's about people saying people saying to them. You can't be this and you can't be that. You can't have this job. Experts about or you can't come to Notre Dame. Play football. I have the most traditional story. The most biggest fantasy. And it came true. And Rudy is now seventy one years old living in Henderson Nevada just outside Las Vegas Brian New flew out to meet him back in the summer of two thousand and nineteen. What was that like? It was an out of body experience, which is tired phrase with US exactly. How felt you walk up? In your mind. You're looking for Sean Astin. And, then you realize. Oh, no wait. This older gentleman in the Notre Dame windbreaker. That's the gone looking for taste wearing a notre dame windbreaker in his official reason for that was a war this so that you'll be able to recognize me and know that this is hey, there's rudy sitting there, but what I've learned since is that He wears all the time I. Think people have their own idea about what he's like based on the movie book. What does he really like? He's rough around the edges. He's not as polished as you maybe expect a guy who makes his living as a motivational speaker to be released. Yeah, we'll play in Ohio state man. You're coming in bringing you. We're going to show the movie to the boys, said all right. Pundits Notre Dame movies. Don't worry about it as shit. This is not gonNA work. He drops off bombs. He calls everybody coach. He calls the witch's at Coffee Bean coach. Coach to you, June, because a song coach. He called me coach. He doesn't so much of at some point. You start mimicking not realizing it like talking to a friend of yours or the British. Accent you starring British accent I started calling about a coach by the end of the day, and I get where people might be rubbed the wrong way by Rudy, but if you really listen to them. He's got that infectious smile and just a storyteller. He starts telling stories. You end up just being mesmerized by it and we're promoting our movies in. Las Vegas I never been on a press junket before, so I have no idea what a press junket is and there. I see stallone and Travolta said well. Then you see Meg Ryan Tom, hanks. Chevy Chase Arnold Schwarzenegger going. Wait a minute. What's going on here? And they explain I always. The movie impacted his life. Entire life people ask all the time well. What does he do for a living? Now before the movie was released, really tried to sell cars. Rudy was a landscaper rooted every job. You could possibly imagine and then when the film came out from that point forward, he's just been rudy. He has a company called Rudy International. He's a life coach. He does public speaking even his son, who is. Is An avid bass. Fisherman is only bass fishing team of his High School in Las Vegas which by the way I did not know that you could be on a high. School Basketball Team Las, VEGAS? It's sponsored by Rudy International. He's Rudy. That's what he does. You Walk in his house and it is a museum to rudy. That's actually tackle the actual game right there. Photo a photo. That was taken by. I'm not sure, but they took it which was awesome. That's where he lives. That's where he sits all. There are a lot of people that are. There's a lot of guests there. It's him and the birds and the dogs and the cats. He's a Cockatoo and he. He's got about two thousand word vocabulary. Say around him. This guy talked and it is from Florida ceiling. Every wall in the house is something that has to do with that half of a minute that he played against Georgia tech a really long time ago. Here's actual carry off of actual game right here. And I'm proud of that. Here's actual coming out of the tunnel pitcher. Someone needs the Jersey Jersey, and you get a helmet to helmet without me knowing that he stuff to Rudy Jersey in my backpack. And I got home and pulled it out and I was like. Oh, well, no. Go a gift from Rudy You're not the first person to leave his house with the Jersey. I'm not exaggerating when I say. There is a Pantry I feel like it's probably supposed to be the food, pantry. And it is full of nothing but eight by ten. It will wouldn't ask. Our world will call hero cards and. Just Stat. Equipment Room and southbound they football if they need a football and got the bobblehead here. And so I don't think anyone leaves that house. Without a Jersey and a picture. Coming up where the reality of Rudy meet the fantasy of Radi. And does it even matter? We're presented by marathon. Now more than ever. We have to look out for each other and count on each other in marathon wants you to know that you can count on them for high quality. Top Tier guests well. We're aware travel may not be top of mind. There might be times where you have to hop into the car to run an errand, or maybe you just want to drive to see your best friend simply to way from a safe distance before you head out, remember to feel up at marathon and right now. Now, you can get five cents off every gallon every day with make account rewards for Marathon, plus you can earn points for additional savings on fuel airfare, hotels and more. This is definitely a deal you can count on. It's also easy to join. Just download the free account APP or go to make account dot com slash radio and start saving today. This offer is valid only at participating marathon stations. Remember wherever you to go the people at Marathon are behind you all the way marathon fueling the American spirit. So I actually hit kind of bird dog. Rudy at the Notre Dame Stanford game in the fall of two thousand eighteen kinda followed him around and see how reacted to. Walk around campus. and. There won't take pictures, and all that or they're just rolling her eyes going off rudy. Notre Dame, people are divided about it because they don't believe that he belongs a lot of them. Don't believe he belongs in the same conversation with. Knute rockne e Billy Shakespeare. Everybody everyone heisman there Anderson up and Tim Brown. Give me the whole list. He doesn't belong in that conversation. And the reality is that he does. He's part of the Lore. Seems like this idea of disliking. Rudy has to do with the fact that some people believe he is trying to take minor event in sports, history and almost blow it out of proportion. And a lot of people do care about that I mean Joe Montana he talked about Rudy on the Dan Patrick Show in two, thousand and ten. Were you there when Rudy was there? Yeah if the movie remember not all that's true. Well. What wasn't true? Well. The crowd wasn't chanting. Nobody's who their jerseys You know he did get in the game and he did get a sack, and then the guys just carried him off kind of. Playing around. I won't say it's a joke this playing around. So, but you know he did you know? He worked his butt off joined to get where he was and to do the things he did. But, any harder than anybody else. You're ruining it for me. Here I bought in that? You guys running in your jerseys and this emotional and rudy was he. Was Your your your spiritual rallying cry. Ryan was rudy upset about that. Yes, listen, it doesn't take much to get really upset doesn't and he's a fiery guy. That's because that's who he is well I I accepted Joe's comment. Because that's Joe. He's a laid back guy. He didn't know me think about it. He was a freshman. Who is yes, and no. Rudy and he was injured. He wasn't even at the game. When I played. He was injured, so he never suited up, so he never got to experience that moment. armistead that moment you talk to players that were on the roster with him. In there in three categories either a, they don't really remember him. Be They remember him, and they're just tired of hearing about him all the time or see they love him like they love him, and so they kinda run into different groups and Rudy knows exactly who is in every group. He's got really right arm and he's like professor, x and the big thing where he could see the whole world he is. Anybody's talking about Rudy, good or bad. Rudy knows it. Seems to be sort of dichotomy between Rudy believers and rudy six. Do you think he sees the world that way? That way and it doesn't take very long for you to understand that. You mentioned the Joe Montana thing. His face turns red and here's a vein that POPs out in his neck. And it's not that he's mad at Joe Montana. It's just a reminder that there are still people out there who are questioning what he wants to do in. He keeps a list I'm telling you he. He still remembers the names. Of the priests at his high, school back enjoyed Illinois. who laughed at him about? You can't do this or you can't do that? He remembers everyone who told him no everyone and that goes all the way up until today. Ryan one instance where Rudy was told no was in two thousand eleven. The feds charged him in a stock pumping scheme around a product. With his name on it well the way that really describes it as he was chasing the money and he got talked into this. Rudy energy drink one a Dan. Devine's relives was one of the people involved in this. And they. got a little aggressive with their numbers as far as advertising and go into possible vendors, and saying well, our numbers were just as good as someone. So I mean some of the giant sports energy, drink companies, and those numbers were not accurate in the eyes of the government of the regulatory agency, so rudy instead of going into a protracted legal fight, he agreed to a settlement any paid that off, and it costs a lot of money. It became a pretty big headline because you know, he's Rudy and whenever there's a chance to pile on the dude. Everybody seems to seize that chance. The SEC, the government agency, not not the Catholic I. Actually mentioned the movie in their press releases about charging him with a stock pumping scheme, but they also said that the promotion for the drink falsely claimed that Rudy outsold gatorade two to one, which seems unlikely, it was not likely and and whoever whoever threw that number together did not think that through, and clearly they were busted on that. It. Feels like he sort of embodies the idea of living on the edge between being a very aggressive dreamer, which is the rudy story and being a self promoter. Yeah, and aggressive dreamer is the perfect way to phrase it is, and he he's aggressive and everything that he does, and that's why he's been very successful at times, and he's failed miserably at times, and honestly it goes back to the story of how he even got into a game at Notre Dame anyway and every time he's been knocked down. He jumps back up and that's just how he has lived his life. Do, you think he can separate himself from the character in the movie. No I don't I mean I I, think he, he has a great understanding of who he is as a real human on earth. And who that person is up on the screen, but the two have become so intertwined. that. You know most of the questions that he answers. Have to do with the film as opposed to his rule life experience, he always says in the very beginning, when like Reader's Digest, sign him on as a speaker, and they sent him out to all these schools, and when he would walk into these elementary schools, the kids would just be crushed because they were looking for Sean. Astin and so he has embraced the character when he needs some Bryce to character, but it's end of the day. It's really it's about Rudy. He's pushing his actual real story as much as he possibly camp. What you think that says about him. I think it says that he saw an opportunity to make a living, but also I do not question his motivation when it comes to. Telling the story because the reality is, he's never been rich. He's done okay. Then bankrupt a couple times and I kind of went into my day with Rudy. With my cynicism helmet all all right dude we'll see and then I realized very quickly that he's not on private jets He's not hanging out with famous people. of what he's doing is kinda down in the trenches of the motivational speech world, and because he believes in what he's doing. What you're Y, if you have a why then you could perform if you don't have that, y you just going to get through the game? If you get your Y, you can be doing things. You didn't think he could do so. Get Your y right now. Get connected and get rid of all your goofy thoughts. You might have right now, but anything. You might have get rid of him right now. Go out there, saying you deserve to be here. Just I deserve to play at Notre Dame just like I deserve to have a major picture just like I deserve to go there and speak to great audiences, and that's how you should think. Ryan would you describe yourself as a reliever? Yeah, why not listen listen I was so inspired by the film when I saw it and no one dislike Notre Dame. It's point more than I did, and I was just bitter, because it'd be Tennessee at our place, and you know you roll your eyes those things, but at the end of the day. Really says this all the time. It's okay. To Walk into a movie theater and leave inspired. It's okay, and that's how I felt when I saw the film in Nineteen. Ninety three and you know I got the DVD somewhere here in the House I'll pop that in some point I'll watch it and I'll be inspired again. Thanks! Thank you. Times and this has been ESPN daily. Our show is produced by. Michael Bolton Era Choi Farkas Alexander. Hyacinthe Mike John's St Marteen Ryan Tell David. Sarossy Andy Tennant Eve tro Chris to Mellow and Erinvale. I'll talk to you Monday.
Get a Grip! NFL QB Secrets to Handling the Pigskin
"Anytime you get a good spread on the football. I think there's two good pressure points. There's this finger in this thing in this middle finger on the top as my hands accrue foul right the way I do it. My hands aren't the biggest I ring finger on the end and pinkie four down. That's Tom Brady Carson wentz and Baker Mayfield talking about the most clutch relationship. In any quarterbacks life is grip on the football itself it's unique and personal as a fingerprint forged over a lifetime of playing today. We get a firm grasp on how quarterbacks hold the ball and why I mean it comes. It's Friday November twenty second this is Espn Daily League presented by indeed. Dave I gotta give you a hand you've really got your finger finger on the pulse of the NFL so this would be a snap right. Oh no yeah brutal day. Fleming is a senior writer for ESPN his latest journalistic tour De Force is on NFL quarterback grips. Well let's start here here. What made you want to write about quarterback grips in the first place so there was a trick we used to play? I used to play on Peyton manning you could never get him to talk period if you like about his family or brothers or anything the shades were just come down and he'd be like signaling the PR people but if you asked him about like a cornerback. cornerback took an outside stance on a third down. Pass play a month ago. He would talk for like forty. Five minutes nonstop It's remarkable that. Nobody asked anybody let alone quarterbacks. These types of questions honestly concede them their eyes. Light up when it's like you're not asking about an injury or an upcoming an opponent. Tony Story About. Who taught you how to grip the football all of a sudden? It's like a one question interview because they just go for ten or fifteen minutes. I thought at the beginning there would be such little differentiation between the grips and the stories that we wouldn't have anything but it was like almost every conversation revealed something really cool about out either. Who taught them or a quirk to their grip? It was a cool window into quarterbacks. What is the most common way for? A quarterback Caribbean there are seven leases on an NFL football surf. You're holding it out in front of you and your right hand. The thumb obviously goes under the pointer finger goes between the top lace and the cone of the football and then they had like this language. It's based on what lace your Pinky tucks into whether a Tux under the laces or over the laces and then what lace your ring finger is on. The most common thing is to under five. Which means your ring finger is on the second lace and your Pinky is tucked below the fifth lace the pointer finger and your middle finger are the last to leave the ball and that really determines trajectory victory and spin and so a lot of guys say that those are because they're the last one touching the ball? Those are the most important there were a couple of guys who I was was like. Okay I have to chop off one finger and then you can keep throwing which one would it be and most of them chose the pinky. I was surprised that is a very strange question in the backfield. They're gonNA throw it deep. Kelsey talk all so when you ask these quarterbacks about how exactly they hold the ball. What kind of answers did you get? There are little quirks and tendencies that every quarterback has with their grip. Most quarterback coaches will tell you to leave space between your palm and the football. Patrick mahomes loves to palm the ball. Somebody like Josh Allen Matt Ryan. Tom Brady those guys. Have a pretty traditional grip. Where it's you know? Ring Finger over about the second lace and Pinkie on or around the fourth or fifth. Oh and then of course. There's Ben Rothlisberger Asas Burger. who literally sounds like he's never thought about it more than two seconds? You always have time to find the laces I think. Sometimes you catch. I always give it like one quick. Turn if I get the laces yes I get it. If he didn't have all just come out. That answer didn't surprise me at all. I think one thing I found interesting about your story. It's not just just about how these guys grip the ball. It's how they came to grip the ball. Were some of the origin stories. For how these quarterbacks developed their grips so one of the origin stories. That actually I found quite sad was Mitch trubisky. No poor guy shouldn't pile on in his dad claims that he could throw spiral at the age of two and then Mitch went onto reveal that when he had no one to play catch with he would just throw the ball up in the air and run under under and catch it and then throw it again and I thought that was. That's either like a Calvin Hobbes cartoon or the saddest quarterbacks story I've ever heard Josh Allens was similar in tone to that. He claims that he sort of learned or strengthened his arm through throwing rocks in his backyard or out of his dad's workshop. And I actually thought this was kind of cute. His Dad was like well you. Maybe you could a quarterback what's Sadder Mitch Trubisky with no one to throw to or Josh L.. And so lonely that he just throws rocks against the a dumpster dead which I today I duNNo. Go throw rocks stopped arrive GonNa cut it loose. There's Red Lake AAC touchdown Atlanta in that Ryan's mom also have some influence on his group. I'm always would tell us when we were young too. You know not to bite your nails because that forefinger you wanna a little bit on the end of it to get that last little bit Spiro. So the only way she got him to stop biting his nails was she was like look that index finger. That nail is the last thing the leaves the ball. And if you want to throw a tight spiral you better quit chewing your nails. This would make a great. PSA for MOMS who are trying to get their teenage boys to stop biting their nails. I was GONNA say I'm a nail biter and tried everything you know. The bitter Nail Polish turns out. I should've just played quarterback that is the answer to stopping. Well I'm sorry to tell you that's why you never made the NFL so so you found out how these guys learn their grips. were any of them told along the way to change it. I think the best example of that is Lamar Jackson. During his rookie year. They noticed he was struggling a little bit with with accuracy problems and his quirks that he keeps the pointer finger almost all the away to the cone of the ball. Most guys keep it down maybe two or three inches closer to the laces and he likes it just because of the stability and sort of as a way to point the ball all so they said you should experiment with moving your finger back and I think he was cooperative and said I'll I'll think about it. I think they we're in the playoffs. And they were at the production meetings and Kurt Warner you know. They're talking at a desk. Kurt Warner SORTA throws him a football. He grabs his hand. and Kurt Warner goes. Let me see your grip and Lamar grip and Kurt Warner's like Oh man. I keep my finger all the way at the end of the ball to like. Don't let anybody change that if that's what you like to do you keep doing it that way. And Lamar was just like. Oh that's awesome. What better proof do I have that? I shouldn't change anything anything then. A Hall of fame quarterback telling me it's perfect right where it is coming up. NFL Scouts are obsessed with a hand size. But does it. Even matter Dell's biggest biggest black Friday ever starts now save up to fifty percent on windows ten laptops and desktops with Intel core processors before windows seven support ends January Fourteenth Two thousand twenty save on servers and a huge selection of electronics was low monthly payments plus. Get Free Shipping. Call eight seven seven buy by Dell to talk to a Dell small business technology advisor who can help you find just the right. Tech- that's eight seven seven by Dell or visit Dell Dot com slash sbblackfriday. The Dave how would you say. It affects a quarterback script when he injures his hand. Does it. Force him to change it. The thing I noticed with quarterbacks who injured their hands hands or had to learn to re- grip the football was they were the ones who really understood and sort of had broken down the dynamics in the fundamentals and the mechanics of the grip just because they had to kind of recreate their step by step and drew. BREES is a great example of that you know. He gave that tutorial for for the press. Ask what he discovered was when you talk about grip strength. It's really the way you pinch the cone of the ball between your thumb and your forefinger football bowl is the one where you really have to extend your thumb all the way around into pretty large angle. I mean look at the spread between Pinky and foam. That's hard to do. He was like that's the most important part love holding onto the ball. Is that squeezing of the thumb and the forefinger. So that's probably the hardest part was just getting to where I could rip the ball again and then be able able to guide the ball maneuverable and I think that's what really he was waiting on as he rehabbed to determine when he would come back. You have a great jamarcus Russell Story I was at his pro day at Lsu and he was spraying the ball all over the field. I mean and this this is under controlled circumstances. It's going like over receivers heads it's hitting the turf maybe connecting on fifty percent of his passes and I'm like this is huge news. I mean he can barely throw the ball and so I follow a GM who I know out of the field house and I'm like what did you think that that was not very good and the GM was like did you see the size of his hands. They're huge and I was always struck me to this day right. It's like like well. WHO cares how big his hands are if he can't throw the ball they measure for hand size and it's like the be all end all in scouting but what they should be measuring for his hand strength? Well let's just tack on a day to the combine and we'll do the Dave Flemming grip strength test. I was GONNA say instead of measuring the hands. They should have like those things have county fairs where you got to grab to see US draw. You are see I knew run same wavelength because I was thinking the exact same thing. I'm like just bring in one of those grip strength things from an arcade. Let's be real people would watch. Signed me up right now. And I think of quarterbacks with notoriously smaller hands like your jared Goff's or your Baker Mayfield's and why agree with you. I don't think hand size correlates with accuracy Baker. Mayfield one of the most accurate college quarterbacks of all time I do wonder if it just changes the way they actually have to hold. It would seem to me that it does I. I think what was striking for me when you go from talking to Matt Ryan and he talks about while you're supposed to keep this pocket between your palm and the football and I was always taught the most important thing is to not squeeze it to death and and delete a pocket of space there. And then you go to Kansas City and you talk to Patrick Mahomes and you say what's the most important and saying what's the signature part of your grip. And he's like well. I love Palman the ball. And you're just like nobody knows anything. There are some common elements. But it's really sort of the signature part of every quarterbacks game a lot of the young guys their ability I think to transition the football and flicked. The football must like baseball. Is You know some of these. Young guys are spinning the ball so good. That was Tom. Brady on some of the young quarterbacks like Mahomes Kyla Murray Baker Mayfield all of whom have baseball baseball backgrounds. Do you think that affects the way they grip the football. I think it does. I think those guys like to have as much contact as possible with the football and he thought that that was from all the pitching Nettie did and all the things that he learned from his dad. You know it doesn't need to be an exact science when you're pitching in your hand and your grip is constantly moving all over the baseball. And I think he sort of takes that mentality especially like on blitzes or three step drop he he might not even get his fingers on the laces. He just doesn't think about he might use a seam of football as a grip or as a lace and and let it fly that way that brings brings up another issue that I wonder about. Which is quarterbacks are getting rid of the ball more quickly than ever right because of the rise of spread offense offense is in the NFL? Does that change the way grip it. They have to learn not to rely on a perfect grip to throw the ball. Every time we I talked to somebody I brought brought a football so that they could show and and demonstrate and they each quarterback had sort of their own unique nervous way of either spinning or flipping or bouncing the football. So that they could grip it and regroup it. I mean they must do that. A million times so that under the worst possible conditions their fingers go back to the exact same place no matter what did talking. To all these quarterbacks about grips change the way you hold a football. No here's okay so I have Baker Mayfield hands. I think I would have been a one and under four guy classic. Yeah but what it really taught me was at the end of my interview with Matt Ryan. You'll like this. There were no words spoken. I just dropped my mic and ran toward the end zone knowing that Matt and I were on the same wavelength and sure enough off I look up and there's like there's like a perfect spiral and instead of being just a normal appreciative guy and catching the ball with both hands ends in saying thank you. That was really cool. I tried to Odell Beckham junior it with one hand and dropped it and Matt Ryan literally like shook his head like peyton manning on Saturday night live live and was like you discussed me bro. Thank you dave. This was gripping it always happy to give you a hand coming up one man's steadfast commitment to his favorite Britt team and to his word at ESPN daily. Were covering the greatest sports stories in history. We know what makes the Dream Team. And when you're hiring for your business you need the recruits. That will become champions. Yes that's why you need indeed for Your Business indeed will help you find the best playmaker. Fear business with tools like online skills tests that help candidates show. They're the perfect tire tire for you. Post your next job at indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily and try skills tests for free. That's indeed dot com slash. ESPN daily really terms. Conditions and exclusions apply. Here's another story. I want you to know last week. I told you about an unusually dedicated gated winnipeg blue bombers fan could declared back in two thousand one that he would not put on pants until his team won. The Canadian. Football League's break-up. Well this Sunday with this team taking on the Hamilton Tiger cats in the championship. Game in Calgary blue bombers fan. Chris Matthew is closer than ever to tossing aside his shorts. I spoke with him to see how he was feeling ahead of this fateful weekend. So Chris take us back to two thousand one. Your beloved blue bombers were favored to win the Grey Cup. What was going through your mind at the time? And how did this wager. Come to be well We're actually I watch Monday night. Football at One of the local establishment and it was was late November like it always Great Cup and it was a nice year so I was still wearing shorts and We were talking to a couple of the players That we're playing for the bombers the following Sunday in the Grey Cup. We had a record of fourteen and four. And I think Calgary was eight and ten or so so this was going to be a no brainer now. The next day somebody said to me well how. How long are you wearing those short? And I said until the bombers win the Grey Cup and as you know there's no sure thing in sports and they went out then lost on the following Sunday and have been back twice but still haven't won so I'm still insurance so you have never worn pants in that time. Maybe a half a dozen times if I've had to go to a funeral and only if it's a funeral people who don't know about my whole not wearing pants thing. Why did you decide to stick to you this because I said it would As simple as that I I used to teach a retired schoolteacher schoolteacher and I used to try and instill in my kids mice by students that Your word is your bond and if you say something you better stand behind what it is that you say so then once once. I said that I was GONNA do this. I couldn't very well turn around and and not That would be really hypocritical so I I've stuck with it and frankly right now. I kind of like wearing shorts all the time Chris. What do you say to someone when he says feel like? You just wanted to wear shorts. Well I would say to them What if you really just? I want to wear shorts then. You shouldn't be living in Winnipeg. Let's say the blue bombers win. What will be the first pair of pants you put on well and this is not tell you something about my wife She would probably prefer that. I wear my shorts because the first pair of pants that I put on because it's been in eighteen years and not all of them fit is an old pair of zoo. Baz Pants the hammer pants. The parachute pants. That's the first pair that's going on. Nice camouflage gray have you had those in your closet just waiting for this moment. Well I used to wear them all the time to tell you the truth but yeah they've been just sitting around and I thought well what what what would I wear because This is now crunch time here and I put on my if you will my funeral pants. But they're they're really kind of Dressy so I thought what else got. Ah Out and so after. This is all over again if you guys win. Are you GONNA go back to wearing pants full-time all time. Mix them in or do you think you're going to wear mostly shorts. I'm still gonNA wear mostly shorts but at least now it gives us some options of other things that we can do It will take away. Hey the stairs when I go to concerts and You know Plays and things like that and we'll be able to get into all fancy restaurants now but but most of the time. No I wear the shorts I quite like. So what are you going to do with the blue bombers lose same thing. I've been doing for the last eighteen years just wearing wearing shorts and waiting until next year. Good Luck Chris Thank you very much this has been espn daily or show is produced by Michael. Balti- era Troy Farkas Alexandre hyacinthe Mike. John's Steve Martine eighteen and a welcome to our newest cast member. Sophia Max Martin Ryan Intel David Cirrhosis. Andy tennant Eve tro Christine Menello. Oh Aaron Vail. We'll talk T- Monday.
The Show Must Go On: Wrestlemania Is Still Happening
"We have a a message in the WWE. That is we say what our jobs are. Every day is to put smiles on people's faces all over the globe and we truly believe that and then this time maybe more than any other in in my memory people need those smiles right now more than anything that's WWE executive vice president. Paul Leveque better known as triple h talking about the decision to move forward with this weekend's wrestlemainia thirty six. It's the closest thing to live sports. That's happened in a wild but with no fans permitted the arena and concerns over the safety of the wrestlers and staff. What will the showcase of the immortals look like in the age of Corona virus? I mean at times. It's Friday April third this. Espn daily Greg. You're ready to talk wrassling. Damn Right Excel it talking about sports with funny named people trying to punch each other in the face. Greg Luzinski is a senior writer for. Espn you can check out. Lapsed Fan's guide to wrestlemainia on. Espn DOT COM. Yeah actually I wanted to ask you think. Most people know your name from hockey. How long have you been on the Wrestlemainia beat my wrestling a Bona Fides? Go back to when I was a we child watching Hulk Hogan and the more cartoonish W. F. which really sort of capture my heart as you know through the decades there have been times where it's been okay to say a wrestling fan and then sometimes when they've you don't mention it to a lot of people. I think we're in an okay dimension it part of wrestling right now. We're sort of a necessary to mentioned it portion because there's nothing else going on and wrestling is somehow improbably still happening. How is this even occurring? Well the way it's been occurring for the W. E. and their competition. A W which Ariza. Tnt network is that they've been holding shows in empty facilities but for me that means holding their weekly television programs raw and smackdown at the W. E. Performance Center a training facility in Orlando and what they've been doing literally holding it inside of an Empty Gymnasium. I'm the game triple agent. I would like to personally. Welcome you to the. Wwe Performance Center now. This show will be different from anything you've ever seen before. Sit Back Relax. And if you can't forget about the world around you and let. Wwe Do what we do. Let us put a smile on your face to start. That was a little bit awkward because the wrestlers would come out and they would look to the crowd. That wasn't there and they would do all of the usual pantomime they would do to get the fans excited except there was no fans getting excited. You see it doesn't matter if there's ten thousand fans at their zero fans because this is how I I remember that can only way I could describe it as it's like when you're at chucky cheese and the animatronic band starts playing into an empty room. It's still playing. It's still doing. Its own thing. But there's nobody that Iraq to it and that was like the first couple of weeks of this and also they've been utilizing more space around the performance center lake attacks in the parking lot and stuff like that to try to make it feel more than just trying to recreate something inside of an empty room derailed. Me With that chucky cheese analogy this. It's the it's the rock afire explosion ban. Greg get it right. There's nothing better than being in an empty room with the rock afire. Explosion Band and just hearing the gears clunk together. It's jarring but also satisfying so wrestlemainia. Thirty six is happening on Saturday. What was the original plan for the event the original plan was to hold wrestlemainia? Thirty six at Raymond James Stadium in Tampa and this was going to be a huge event for those who don't know it's not just simply wrestlemainia. Inside of a stadium. It is an entire city being overrun by. Wwe events you have the Access Fan Festival you have the WWE Hall of Fame Ceremony. Where wrestlers of old honored and put into a virtual hall of fame. Physical building doesn't exist quite yet and then also after Wrestlemainia the next day on Monday. It's tradition to hold Monday night raw in that same city so this isn't just simply one event on a on a on a Saturday night for The city of Tampa. It was a whole citywide sort of celebration for wrestling as of March. Third The W. E. and Tampa's mayor said there were no plans to postpone the event the W. E. said look the health safety of our fans and performance of our top priorities. But we remain committed to hosting Wrestlemainia at Raymond. James Stadium fast forward to March twelfth. Now you have Hillsborough County's commissioner less Miller saying he'll probably have to cancel wrestlemainia if the. Wwe doesn't make the decision itself because of the virus pandemic governor Rod Santa's that points that cities and counties should cancel mass gatherings over the next thirty days and so it was becoming a worse than worse. Look for W. E. to keep wrestlemainia scheduled framing Jamie Stadium on March sixteenth. They made the decision not to have upwards of sixty five seventy thousand people come to a stadium during a virus outbreak and instead moved into their performance center in Orlando. It's a two night event April fourth and April Fifth. How has wwe justified or explained their decision to go on with us? Well there's the public explanation and then there's the assumed explanation that the public explanation according to the WWe is that it is for the fans the fans are the lifeblood of the organization it is a panacea the fans to be able to hold this event. It is going to give them some comfort in a time of confusion and trouble. It's also going to be arrested for the performers themselves who you know are looking for some direction or looking for some focus in life during uncertain times. And that's sort of the the public explanation for this. If you know about the wrestling business you know that part of this is the fact that story lines that are going to have their big payoff. At wrestlemainia are a month long process. All the story lines all the action. They all run through. Vince McMahon they are on one track. And they're going to stay on that track through hell or high water. These are storylines narratives that the W has been planning to wrap up in culminate at Wrestlemainia happens every year and then they kind of moved to new stuff after that so from a function process to have wrestlemainia occur and wrap up which are the signature feuds and storylines of their season. If you will was a pretty important thing was there any blowback to all of this. Yeah I think there has been some in the rest in wrestling circles amongst wrestling reporters and and amongst the fans wondering okay. We are looking around the sports world. We're looking around the entertainment world. We're seeing literally every pro league every concert tour Disney on ice everything canceling out of concern about corona virus and yet professional wrestling roles on as a weekly television product so there is a bit of confusion. There're two why this continues while every other facet of sports entertainment seems to have stopped. What about amongst the wrestlers did any of them have reservations about participating in this one particular did so wrestler by the name of Roman reigns one of the bigger stars and WWe had a very highly publicized battle with leukemia? He left in October. Two thousand eighteen returned to WWE IN FEBRUARY. Two thousand nine thousand nine hundred and he's compromised so news started to break recently through some of the quote unquote dirt sheets in wrestling. The ones who report the rumor. Innuendo that Roman reigns was not going to be participating in his scheduled match against Goldberg for the Universal Championship at Wrestlemainia. Wwe basically said hey look. This is understandable situation. The health and safety of our performers paramount Sakiz. The biggest name that we know will not be participating but quite frankly until we see what events they air this weekend we won't know who else may have decided to pull out or had to be quarantined or any of that nature because they're being very clandestine about what the card will actually be the first wrestlemainia. That's taking place over multiple nights. It's also the first wrestlemainia that is going to be completely pretaped. So when did they take this weekend's event and what steps did they take to ensure the safety of the wrestlers in the people working on it? It's been a race against time for me. As I mentioned the performance center is in Orlando Florida Orlando Florida. Recently issued a stay at home order March twenty sixth that really closed out all the essential businesses. Just like we've seen all over the country so the WBZ has been racing. It's time to not only record wrestlemainia matches but also record. Future television matches programming as well as far as the safety of the wrestlers. It is a closed control facility. Stephanie McMahon the daughter of owner Vince McMahon who is the brand manager for WWe said to variety. Recently there's extensive testing screening. When you first come into the facility regardless of whether you're a talent crew member or anyone else if you have a temperature taken and you have a temperature over a hundred point four degrees you're automatically asked to leave also any wrestlers de out of the country or in contact anybody who's been out of the country you're not actually allowed to enter the facility. Either so they are taking some safety measures as far as trying to make sure anyone exhibiting symptoms isn't allowed in the facility or anyone who might have been exposed to corona virus through travel or relationships isn't allowed in the facility. Which is you know what you see from other companies as well but obviously there's no way to be sure without Virus testing whether anybody actually has the center of city so they tape this before the stay at home order. Does that mean this is going to be the last big event like this or is this something they're going to keep on doing? There is a lot of sort of mystery as to how these wrestling organizations are going to continue to keep on doing their thing. I'm not sure what the regulations mean for the performance in Orlando. I don't know if this is GonNa be it for their use facility or not. I can't tell you that. Eighty w their competition with also filming inside of an empty facility in Florida's well and there was news this week that they're gonNA be taking their show to some undisclosed to record matches going forward so I don't know if it's GonNa be a shell game where these companies have to start going to the few places around the country that don't have restrictions in place or what have you. But it's clear from both cases that even though they're putting a bunch of their product in the bag right now in our taping matches and episodes for future use on television. The show apparently is going to go on coming up. We this weekend's most anticipated matches. This and explain how rob Gronkowski fits into all of this greg for someone who doesn't follow wwe closely. Can you explain why Wrestlemainia is such a big deal? Wrestlemainia was the calling card for the WWF and then the wwe. Over the course of thirty six years. Welcome everyone gorilla monsoon here ringside with my colleague. Jesse. The body Ventura as the World Wrestling Federation presents the wrestling extravaganza all time wrestlemania. I mean you could make the argument that if the first WRESTLEMAINIA wasn't a huge success. We're that was one where. Hulk HOGAN TEAMED UP WITH MR T in a tag team match. Where would it even be today? Mr Team Wrestlemainia. Three at the Pontiac Silverdome set an attendance record to watch Hulk Hogan Body Slam Andre. The giant over the years wrestlemainia has become its own monster. It doesn't matter what the car looks like wrestling. Fans casual or diehard are going to pay attention to Wrestlemainia because they know inherently that. It's going to be the most adventurous and most momentous product that they put on every year. Greg this is the first wrestlemainia without fans but as you mentioned. Wbz has been broadcasting smackdown and raw. How have those broadcast been doing? They've been not all that successful in the ratings which I think is understandable considering everything that's going on right now considering the awkwardness of the product. But they're reviews. The show has steadily gotten better. One of the more fascinating aspects of what's been happening in pro wrestling is to see one. How the wrestlers themselves adapt to not having the fans in the building to play off of and to you know to see how these organizations thrived through adversity. It's been well known amongst. Wwe Fans that some of their best work ever has been born out of adversity when they were challenged in the one thousand nine hundred ninety s during the great Monday night television wars with WCW Ted Turner Wrestling Organization. That's where we got stone cold. Steve Austin Austin Three. Sixteen says that's where we got the Rock. Piss what the Rock took it? They were all born out of that competition so I think a lot of us are wondering in these desperate times. What will these organizations do to keep their businesses going to keep fans interested and then what blossom from that could it? Could it be greatness? Well speaking of Greatness Former Patriots Tight End Rob. Gronkowski is hosting this weekend's Wrestlemainia. What can we expect from that now? Fairness Gronk does have some wrestling background. He did appear to previous WRESTLEMAINIA fans. Not just walking tasking helping his friend Mojo Rawley win a battle royal. I believe it was so he's got a little bit of. Wwe On his resume he will serve as host fun fact. The only other time I think the that Wrestlemainia has had an official host or hostess is when Kim Kardashian was the hostess one year yeah that is some pretty heady company for Gronk to be joining. No one's really sure what he is going to do. It is kind of a scary prospect to have rob Gronkowski tried to play to an empty room. I think he's somebody who definitely get used a crowd to feed off of every facet of life. But he's GonNa be there and he's a big name and You know since the WRESTLEMAINIA was supposed to be in Tampa one imagines there'll be some semblance of it's the second most surreal thing. That's happened at Tampa sports in this month. Kind of joke about Tom. Brady we can expect that to happen. So Greg I have not kept up with wrestling but I should disclose here that I did watch deputy as a child. I had an older brother in which I feel like as a catchall explanation and I may have been forced to play the role of undertaker given that I have long dark hair as a little girl. I was delighted to see. He's going to be there this weekend. In fact he's not the only a legend coming back for this wrestlemainia right. Yeah wrestlemanias famous for recycling old talent. The undertaker is Someone who had a farewell match three years ago so true wrestling fashion. He's still go and and the undertaker is going to be taking on a wrestler by name of Aj styles and what is being billed as a bone yard match. They're drawing heat on each other by mentioning each other by their real names. Aj's calling him mark undertaker's calling him Allah new. But you're right. There's more a classic wrestlers I've mentioned before fifty three year old Goldberg. You may remember from the Halcyon days of the WCW in the Nineteen Ninety S. He's actually your universal champion and he will be taking on a someone to replace. Roman reigns brock listener for where you have guy taking on drew McIntyre who eliminated him in the royal rumble and people are wondering if this is just another big body being fed brocker. If this is GonNa be the start of a championship run for McIntyre and. Let's not forget me in a John Cena star of stage and screen. He returns to Wrestlemainia to take on one of the more popular characters. They've created in recent memory. A character called the fiend who wrestles in like a crazy scary Halloween mask. And they're going to battle in something called a firefly funhouse match which people are saying could be a pre taped match that will include cinematic qualities. So prepare themselves for that. Greg what do you think would be considered a success for the wwe this weekend? Nobody getting sick. I think would be a real good success for the wwe. Look there is a real debate as to whether or not this event should be happening. And it's a true debate about many things in life that seems to be ongoing. Despite the recommendations and warnings we saw it in sports on. I'm in the bay area. The San Jose Sharks recently had to address the fact that after Santa Clara County recommended. Mass gatherings not happen. The sharks played three home games before the county finally said okay. That's it none of this stuff officially legally we're going to you know some the sheriff to shut down to try to do it again. So there's been this sort of pushing up to the limits of things that have been happening throughout life so that would be the first thing but as far as like in ring success. Look I get a Mulligan. It's a sport that really does thrive in front of a live audience. It's a sport that really does need fan interaction to understand how matches should flow and things like that. There's nothing better than than being in the crowd during a really successful match. I'll tell you a quick story. I was in Miami for Wrestlemainia when the only Wrestlemania ever attended it was a match between the undertaker and triple h one of the undertaker's many could this be his last match. Wrestlemainia MASHES SHAWN. Michaels triple h his best friend. The heartbreak kid is the guest referee places. Electric its cage match And at one point during the match every wrestling fan knows it could be the end because the matches gone on that long Shawn Michaels kick the undertaker in the face. Triple H Pinza would the one and we get the two and we get to two and three quarters and by God. The undertaker kicks out and I have been in Times Square for new years. I have been in Times Square when that ball drops and the calendar turns it was eclipsed by the euphoria in that stadium for the undertaker continuing this scripted. Fake stage play beyond where we all thought it was going to end well wrestling. Fake the news for you about the Easter Bunny Somewhat Greg time coming up how. Nba players are handling a different kind of dribbling. Here's another story. I want you to know the MK is full of fathers. They're typically not full-time parents. During the regular season players and coaches are constantly on the road and are working hours so they don't always get to see their kids. Obviously that is not the case now and while their lives are unquestionably different from other parents because of their financial advantages. Nba players are finding themselves knee deep in dad duty and their experiences which they shared with our Zach. Lowe are quite relatable. Consider this quote from spurs forward Rudy. Gay Who has two sons? It's like every five minutes. I'm trying to think of something for them to do. At one point gay said he was excited when he found a box turtle hoping it would hold his kids attention for a few hours but as he told low it was cool for three minutes then they wanted something else some players are perhaps unsurprisingly playing basketball with their kids here is the sound of young son correctly predicting that his dad would score on their kids sized hoop easily sixers center. Al Horford told low that he's basically become the world's most overqualified p. e. teacher is dining indoor obstacle courses for his five year old son in three year old daughter because their families. Philadelphia apartment does not have a yard. Pelicans GUARD JJ rettig. Who was actually home? Schooled as a kid has been helping his kids right in illustrate short books and Celtics. Gordon and a Torius Gamer himself has been playing a lot of Mario Kart with his kids. He also told low that he's watched frozen. Maybe thirty five times. I imagined some of you. 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NFL Draft: Round One Reveals
"Hey It's field gates of NFL live in the fantasy focus football podcast with ESPN daily. You can wake up to the best story. You'll hear all day twenty minutes a day five days a week where you get an inside look at the most interesting stories at ESPN. As told by the top reporters and insiders on the planet the Breaking News of Sports Center with the deep dive. Storytelling a thirty for thirty. Today's episode was one. I thought our listeners would especially enjoy. Please listen and subscribe to ESPN DAILY. Wherever you find your favorite podcasts with the twenty-six pick in the two thousand twenty. Nfl draft the Green Bay Packers Select Jordan Love quarterback Utah State. That was the sound of what was probably the most surprising moment last night's NFL draft. Well that and the scene at Titans head coach Mike Variables House to attend goodbye. Loa ended up where he was expected to land all along in Miami. There's still plenty of shockers in the first round. Espn's Michael Junior joins us to break down the most interesting picks and the ones that didn't happen. I mean at times. It's Friday April Twenty Fourth. This is ESPN DAILY. Kind of something will all right so Mike. We thought there might be some shockers involving the quarterbacks but in the end after so much discussion over whether to might slide in whether Justin Herbert would be drafted before him to it ended up in Miami. An Herbert was taken by the chargers. The actual shocker. We'll get to those guys in a second. But the real surprise was Jordan love the Utah State quarterback going to Green Bay at Twenty Six. What was your immediate reaction him. Can I get a camera on twelve in green bay right now like Aaron Rodgers head to be hot coming off of that one because Jordan love? I think we all kind of were the same place. There's a ton of upside with that pick potentially a crazy arm to work with probably going to be a couple of years away which is fine but Aaron Rodgers has three years left on his deal. I believe in extension that he signed and that offense needs plenty of help. You could've used a tackle because you ause Brian Laga you can certainly use more weapons to try and arm your hall of fame quarterback with when you were a team that was a game away from potentially being a super bowl contender so i. I really didn't understand that one and I thought you on our draft broadcast that used the term opportunity costs seemed to be the big elephant attackers there. I think the confusion there is not only over. You know we'll win is stored in love actually going to start. Aaron Rodgers has multiple years left on his very large contract. This is in a Philip rivers or drew brees situation where we might actually see him sitting for a year learning behind the veteran and then coming back or coming in rather that's a question and then the other one is boy. They really didn't get a weapon for Aaron. You know and I think that's what most people expected them to do the draft there were still some really talented receivers on the board. I didn't see packers back reactions to pick that. I imagine they were pretty stunned. And like you said this is a year where I understand the wide receiver draft. You could argue that because of the depth of the class you can get something closely resembling what you want in the second round. Hell maybe even into the third round but with that being such a pressing need. And let's be real like we don't know even in a world where quarterbacks are playing well under the forties. We don't know necessarily how long the window stays as open as it seems right now for the packers and so not capitalizing there. I think is going to be something. Haunts them this year in the packers picking later on in the second round means they could miss out on some of those wide receivers. Let's get back to to the pick in the two thousand twenty. Nfl draft the Miami Dolphins select to a tongue of our quarterback Alabama. So like I said after so much conversation and also Mike whether or not Miami would have to trade up potentially into the third or four spots. They sat there and they got the man they've been linked with a long. How do you like the fit with Miami? I I like the fit with Miami. I think as much as I would like to fit with anybody right. Outside of borough was the one prospect that I think we all agreed from a football standpoint. Does all of the things you want a quarterback to do. Well he's extremely quick when it comes to processing. He's got an arm that maybe isn't going to blow you away but can make all the throws and I think just as important as anything for me with Miami. Is You drafted Austin Jackson at offensive tackle at USC? Later in the first round. You're going to try and bolster that position. You made some picks their last year. But it's still a work in progress and I think the best thing to a does with his mobility is not run of the four quarterbacks that we saw drafted in the first round he had the fewest Russia's on scramble or designed runs last year in college football but what he does is get himself away from pressure really well and we know that is part of going to a bad team as a quarterback of the top end of the draft and so I think that standpoint probably helps Miami the most if he does see the field in year one or even in the year to the quarterback who was drafted after him. Justin Herbert does run and he runs very very well. I actually think one of his strongest attributes aside from his powerful arm in Los Angeles. He gets a coach in Anthony Lynn. Who has worked with mobile quarterbacks in the past there curve starter tyrod Taylor and him had a great dual threat attack in Buffalo. So I imagine the offense that they would Taylor for Herbert would be very very different from what we sell. Philip rivers operate last year. What do you make of the situation? Herbert's walking into and do you think he starts immediately or sits behind tyrod for awhile I think. Ideally he would sit behind tyrod and what you just mentioned there with that offense in combination. And what he can do not having the necessarily tailor it to just one of those quarterbacks right like in theory with that you can run and operate a very similar offense with tyrod as your starter and you've brought this up and I think rightly so tyrod is a guy who mentors very well. I understand for him. That's probably not ideal. He would like to start. But you're in a quarterback room that's going to be conducive to learning for backup and conducive to playing to that strength of all right. If the first reids not there we can get down and we can use those legs. We can build in some of those design plays for you to maximize the strength early while you build and try and make sure that the rest of those gifts that went under developed in an Oregon offense that was not friendly. One for quarterbacks start to develop towards the NFL level. This is the third time in the common draft era. That three quarterbacks were taken in the top six last time was in one thousand nine hundred ninety nine however only four were taken in the first round. Were you surprised that another quarterback wasn't drafted last night? I think I was surprised but almost a bit relieved right like we tend to see the quarterback market always sort of accordion together and bring guys into the first round. That don't necessarily I hesitate to say deserve to be there but merit that based on their skill when you looked at the guys that were outside of that top. Four Jacobs in Jake frahm. Maybe jalen hurts out of Oklahoma. I think with all of them. There are enough flaws that you're going to have to work around. That made them more of a project in the first round should have to be willing to take on again kind of going back to the packers and Aaron Rodgers Point. I don't think you want to spend that kind of draft capital on a guy who's not going to help you right away. New certainly going to need that kind of time to develop so after the Jordan love pick. I think the other big surprise of the night was that Henry rugs the Alabama wide receiver was the first white out drafted overall stake. In by the raiders. Most people had him third behind Jerry. Judy who went fifteen denver and CD lamb fell all the way to seventeen with the cowboys. Do you think it's a good fit with the raiders? And how do you like those other fits? Yeah it certainly seems. Like the most traditionally raiders pick possible. Right like Al Davis is somewhere smiling down saying take the burner take the forty time and run with it so I do like the fit. It's going to be interesting. Derek Carr hasn't had deep weapons like that in a couple of years now and as it was pointed out to us tonight by our resident Raider Stan Jason Fitz. When he had some of those options like Amari Cooper and others he was willing to downfield field that being Derek Carr can they make use of that an offense that was much more work work short across the middle of the field and try and let guys get yards after the catch as far as the other fix? I Love Jerry Judy in Denver having that combination of receivers there with him in Portland Sutton I think gives drew lock a real chance to be successful this year and my God. The Dallas Cowboys identity shift is fully complete now from a new put. A bunch of tight ends and run the ball down everyone. Throats zeke Elliott offense to one. That's going to be going four and five wide and spraying it all over these weapons between the aforementioned Amari Cooper Michael Gallup but now. Cd-rom in a fold there. I mean what a great world. Now for Zeke Elliot. Who was used to a lot of heavy box? Looks who's now going to get much easier spots to try and run through because everyone's going to have to worry about covering those receivers a Dallas cowboys offense that was already one of the most efficient offenses in football last year. I feel like Mike. Mccarthy showed up and just gave himself a gift absolutely. I'll take one of those. Cd lambs all right after the break. Let's talk about some of the other big surprises in the draft. And of course your favorite unit the offensive line with the eighth. Pick in the twenty twenty. Nfl draft the Arizona Cardinals. Select Isaiah Simmons Linebacker Clemson so Mike. We've talked a lot about ISIAH DEF- while called him Isaiah Defense. You know what? Keep that in because it feels right because it was going to say Isaiah Simmons who's a linebacker but also a safety but also slack corner but really he plays defense that's how he describes it summit projected him going as high as fourth overall to New York but he felt eight with the Arizona cardinals which wasn't a position people expected Arizona target. But I don't think they expected him to be available there. How do you think he'll be used in Arizona and do you like that as a landing spot I do? I think when you look at that secondary and you're certainly familiar with a lot of those pieces as there are a lot of former Washington. Huskies in the Arizona secondary but I think adding him to that unit where to me. He always feels more at home. If you'RE GONNA try and peg him at one spot. I would much rather it be safety over a traditional linebacker type role that being said the hope is that they have the imagination to use him in the way that he deserves. Meaning you're right. Make him defense make him multiple. Make him the tight end equivalent for what you. WanNa do on defense you would never have asked Rob Gronkowski to just be an inline blocker or just be a guy split out wide. The beauty of these kind of athletes. Is You get to use them as chess pieces. That can put the other side of the football in a compromised position. I don't know of anyone is going to do that on. Defense potentially as well as Isaiah's speaking of Rob Gronkowski. Isaiah statements is a tight end neutralizer. He's also a great quarterback spy and in my feeling Mike is that you don't even want to tag him with position you want to assign him players. If you're playing the San Francisco. Forty niners have him cover. George Kill you know what I mean like. Always target the player for playing the Ravens. He's on the Mark Jackson. For example that to is the best way to use a talent of caliber. Just turn on some clemson tape. Like don't be afraid to say Brent. Venables is really good at his job. Maybe we should steal some of the things he did with this freak of nature so there weren't that many traits it in the first half of the draft actually according to Adam Schefter. This is the first time since two thousand fifteen that there wasn't a trade in the top. Ten of one of the trades later on that was intriguing was the Tampa Bay. Buccaneers were the forty niners Argon. A trade they're going to trade with the Tampa. Bay buccaneers Tom. Brady's bucks are moving up one slot to come up in this draft. They're still tackle on the board trading up just a slot to get there right. Tackle tristen worse and it was after. The three offensive tackles many grouped with him. Andrew Thomas jeter wells and MCI. Becton came off the board. What do you think of the order in which those players were taken? Please draw on your expertise as a former offensive lineman. Yes now order. Wise may not have been V exact order I would have taken. I thought pure talent wise. Regardless of what side of the line someone plays on Jesuit wills was going to be the best offensive tackle in this draft. That being said I can understand the Andrew. Thomas Pick Very Clean Guy. Great player a lot of pedigree from Georgia offensive line unit. That certainly has shelled out. Guys like one of my personal favorites. My large adults on Isaiah win. Who is now in New England so I understand that at the top but when we got down to Tampa it was interesting because you already had the physical freak MCI Becton off the board and Judge. Wills at that point and so you're left with the last of the four. I think real sure things with Tampa Bay we know protecting Tom Brady. Now is the priority. And the Trent Williams market was going to be too rich for your taste and so moving making sure all right. I got the last of the four guys that we talked about all really in the mix for the first tackle potentially take off the board interest in worse just a ton of ability there that if you can refine just a bit is a guy with all pro capability. One of the other surprising moments involving alignment was when the saints who took center last year in the draft in the second round. Those Eric McCoy picked Michigan Cesar Ruiz at twenty four instead of a linebacker is a lot of people thought they might address. What did you make of that selection? The rich get richer. Like if you look in this draft overall San Francisco Getting Giovane Kim Law falling down to them and certainly for the saints. Offense of Lyon has been touted as a strength for a couple of years. Now they added Ryan Ramczyk at right tackle. Not Too long ago. And you mentioned the Eric McCoy Pick Cesar. Ruiz is a guy who played center for Michigan last year. But has some guard in his pass to his game can certainly slide there as it like Wofford is on his way out at the right guard spot there but I just think smart teams like this in the NFL. Draft tend to look and say all right. We don't have a desperate need really in any one spot. Why don't we continue to fortify the area of strength make it even better in? Would maybe drew brees his final year. Insure that we're going to give that offense. The best chance to continue succeed with that as a strength. Speaking of very good teams the chief said the last pick in the draft and they took a running back. Clyde Edwards Hilar- out of lsu instead of a corner. Mike you know how I feel about drafting running backs in the first round. What will you do for that offense? And I just WANNA say begrudgingly I share your taste. Like is a former offense. Lineman talking about downgrading the value of the running back position hurts my soul in a very real way that being said. Clyde Edwards Allaire may not have been my rb one that was probably Andrea Swift. But I don't know if you could tailor a better fit to what. Kansas City does on offense very similar. Quite frankly to Clyde Edwards Allaire was dealing with at Lsu more five-man protections that any offense in college football last year. A guy who is maybe the best pure pass catcher of any of the running backs in the group this year and who can operate really well in some of those zone running plays those blocking schemes. That aren't gonNA make a ton of use of tight ends and multiple bodies like that in the middle of the field. I love him as a fit. And that offense now. Multiple weapons on every level. Good luck I hope you can get to the passer and Patrick Mahomes in under two seconds because if not that ball is in the hands of someone very dangerous. Who's likely got one of the one on one match ups on the field good night? Was there anyone you were a surprise wasn't picked in the first round. I think sticking with Lsu Christian Fulton and I understand when you're watching the tape of lsu's corners last year. Your eyes are probably drawn. Derek Stanley junior who is like a future top five. Pick as a true freshman for them. But Chris Fulton is a very good corner and one that I can't believe in a draft where I think we saw five or six corners drafted in the first round. He wasn't one of the names. Mike I think perhaps the biggest surprise as I'd rem during love and Henry Rugs and these is of Cliff Kingsbury House. Good Lord was that nothing really went wrong there a couple of minor glitches but for the most part from a technological standpoint. This was pretty smooth. How did it feel to you? Did it felt very clean. I want to give a hat tip to our coverage of the WNBA draft last week. I looked at that as production. Lock done largely by our folks and I said all right everyone involved in that process from the TV broadcast side to the teams making picks to the commissioner all seem to operate pretty smoothly after some practice in that spot. We know and we heard very often about how much time the NFL spent practicing this week. So it seemed to pay off and I think the lack of trades that we really saw in the first round probably aided that to some extent but for the most part there who knew that all of these guys in their rooms with various people in Winnebago's park in the driveway or all the other twenty five screens that Schneider has going on somehow managed to pull this off all right. Thanks so much get some sleep. I'll talk to you tomorrow. Thanks coming up. Could Soccer Return Soon in Spain? Here's another story. I want you to know for the. Nfl draft has given football fans something to cheer for. There are still lack of clarity around. How the actual seasons going to play out but in Europe football as in football football as in soccer appears to be on the precipice of coming back this week. The German football league announced that Bundesliga could restart as soon as the main knife as long as they get a green light from the government. The head of the League's Task Force on the issue says they need to administer more than ten thousand cove in nineteen tests over a ten week period to complete season as well as practicing social distancing in monitoring and limiting gatherings now. This is being discussed their enlarge part because Germany has fought the krona virus with great success. There's actually been a decline there and confirmed cases since mid April so it might be more realistic to restart soccer there than it is in Spain. One the hardest hit countries and yet Lalita one of the two main Spanish Leagues is also considering a comeback. New York Times reported Thursday that the League is targeting. A June return. The Times got their hands on the guidelines established for doing so and they are strict players would have to go through a month long training. They don't have to be tested of course and only allowed to practice together in small groups at first and any player who tests positive would be sent home to isolate. Teammates would also be tested as well. It remains to be seen if any of this can actually happen or if the players coaches and staffers would even comply but they have strong incentive to do so the League has said that calling off the season would cost teams more than one billion dollars and this has been espn daily our show is produced by Alexander Hyacinth. Mike John's Steve Martin Ryan Intel. Andy tennant eve. Trope Chris to Manila and Erinvale especial. Thanks this week to Russell. Nao and Troy Farkas Talk to Monday.