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Introducing The Three Questions with Andy Richter

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

01:24 min | 2 years ago

Introducing The Three Questions with Andy Richter

"Hello I am Andy. Richter and I have a new podcast called the three questions with Andy Richter. It's basically an hour long interview format and it's asking the questions that I have always liked. Ask people on the CONAN show in the commercial break the sort of things of like what was your childhood like and what's your workplace like and how do you feel about how your life is going so the three questions are where do you come from. Where are you going and what have you learned and it's basically just a way to sort of get a conversation going about people's lives in rather than just the standard sort of coming on on goofing around and trying to plug something? I really want to kind of get to know people and kind of let them get to know me too. It's very therapeutic. I think you'll enjoy it a lot. The three questions starts on July eighth with.

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Introducing The Three Questions with Andy Richter

Conan O’Brien Needs A Friend

03:23 min | 2 years ago

Introducing The Three Questions with Andy Richter

"Hey everybody Conan O'Brien here. This is not a regular episode of counter. Brian needs a friend today. I'm actually going to play a clip from another show. You see my old pal. The Andy Richter got himself his own podcast if you haven't heard it already it's called the three questions with Andy Richter. Andy has three questions. He likes to ask people. Where do you come from? Where are you going? What have you learned? And he thinks that <hes> when these questions are answered you get a complete picture of who someone is so far. He's had guests like broad cities Abby Jacobson. Natasha Leone from Russian doll and new episodes come out every Tuesday. I like to say drop every Tuesday because then I get street cred anyway. Take a listen to this special trailer and subscribe to the three questions with Andy Richter now on stitcher apple podcasts or wherever you listen give this Andy Kid. Get a chance he's a young punk and he's going places. Hello I am Andy Richter and I have a new podcast called the three questions with with Andy Richter. It's basically an hour long interview format and it's asking the questions that I have always liked to ask people on the Conan show in the commercial break the sort of things of like what was your childhood like and what your workplace. Workplace like and how do you feel about how your life is going so the three questions are where do you come from. Where are you going and what have you learned and it's basically just a way to sort of? Get conversation going about people's lives. It's very therapeutic. I think you'll enjoy it a lot. The three questions with Andy Richter is out now listening stitcher apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Eighteen cocoa production in association with Hello. This is Matt Goalie. I just wanted to let you know that you can listen to add free episodes. Episode of Conan O'Brien needs a friend only on stitcher premium for a free month of stitcher premium go to stitcher premium dot com and use Promo code CONAN everybody. It's Aaron and Bryan Shade We. He's had our four hundred episode and we threw a huge party with some of our favorite past guests poonam Patel Ryan O'CONNELL Paula Tomkins Dave Holmes Rana Glickman and more so if you love spontaneously breaking out into song take to the theater take a Kendall and it will blow front characters were giving me one hundred percent strudel boy from toaster strudel when I go to school eat my toaster struggle.

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Kate Micucci and Andy Richter  - Fleshy Protuberances

Dumb People Town

1:21:03 hr | 2 years ago

Kate Micucci and Andy Richter - Fleshy Protuberances

"Hey you love music but have a hard time. Keeping up with the Tabernacle we gotta show all about news so join me Joan Array army and me cash flow weekly feature nailed it as we discussed the current events in the world of music with our guests cross replacement of music from listen things can get pretty heated first of all fucking or we always guarantee sounds when you're asking so check us out wherever you listen to podcasts and if you want your music featured on this show emails JONA radio R. A. Y. At G. L. DOT COM uh-huh. Oh Shit is this. It's on are we on Oh my God. I'm burning man. I don't know if you guys know but I went to all right anyway. We Are you know I'm. I'm so excited to do this. Show every single time. Something magical happens on the stage. Dan Jay and I are just so happy to bring this one specifically to you and we love to start off. We've gotten great musical. Guess throughout this whole run of doing it here Largo. We continue tonight with someone. I'm just going to say this when Jane I moved to L. A. In ninety nine this album came out his first album in came out in two thousand one and it was the soundtrack for young US living in L. A. and just so important in so specialists is that in the last like year so we really got to know him and and gotten to meet him and become friends with him I was it's so exciting for us to be on a show together with him and have him be on on this show and have him do our theme song tonight so I want you guys to give the warmest welcome to someone who I've loved for twenty years and I'm just so happy to show the status of the great. PR and everybody the friends all right. I wasn't sure what I was doing here tonight but he cleared that up for me so now I know all right. We'll know mess US around here. I think I only get to play zones or something like that. Three four he's referring to a regular music for the morning after it came out in two thousand one one so this is the first one of girl singer shaves loves sound so love Yeah it regret a new loan alone. Uh Hello still chain. They sure do do you. Thank you Alison. Listen to you you things are are. We're here for UH dumb people town then I will want to sing about that. Dan J share unify. I guess they sing this song every week and it's kind of a country diddy but I'm going to your effort for a little bit Dan any jail tears folks back in Greece and sometimes she used a lab so make the news down each epic fail Florida. There's half price bail. I'm happy to say they couldn't make this listen to a podcast Jim with co host Dan van Kirk. Don't be a jerk win. The Music Chris Funny Hits and we're going to take you down instagram hunker damn stone the Jorn Pete Yard. Look great yarn that you got a man that was so good shootout ran yeah. Let's do it right now. Hi Guys Knees episode on on Population you population yarn. I just WanNa say this is amazing. We love doing this show at Largo. It's such a special place to us and we're so happy that all these guys are out here tonight. Pete did a great job. Thank you for being here. Thank you for being we have great guest coming as well. We got exercise. We gotta do calisthenics aesthetics as it were off stretch it out warm up dance computer. not my computer. What does that Adele does that what does that? They said you're getting uh-huh. Yarns version of our songs sounded like a song he was writing in jail was it did you right. That's true yes. You're up the river. I know all right we introduced so we have a spirit animal for those of you who have the patron saint eight dumb people very much. His name is John Flato and for those who don't know he was he took his Russian friend to a casino I use friends friends in air quotes and gave her one hundred bucks and put it into a slot machine. She pressed the Button Jackpot hundred thousand dollars she went up to collect and the I in the front said you get all the money 'cause you press the button and she said keep that man away from me. Yeah she walked out with one hundred thousand dollars and we've always felt that this guy's been wronged and then we took one good you might have lost fifty grand but he gained exactly Lehto. Jan played always in breathable close is so jam Plato to us is kind of like a reverse Chuck Norris. There are things in this world that Jan does that. No one will ever understood about about Jan Rutta his his glasses are transitioning. They'll never stop transitioning. There's things that people don't know about you later like Jan Flato doesn't pee standing up or sitting down. He Pees Lane. It's a fountain calls himself. A little Balaj aw thanks Jen flato has had hiccups for the past two years. Oh Man Jim Plato checks in every hotel using the alias Rusty Kuntz Jamf Lehto can do nine tricks with a lighter Jan.. Jan does go to secret Santa. Gift is astro gliding right okay. Jan flato had two dates to prom this year. Okay Plato Swears. You can never be too drunk to WHO ENJOY EPCOT JEN Plato once landed a frontier plane. No Gentler does nephew calls Him Dad. I Dunno aw I wrote. It and I don't know what that does written three separate endings to game of thrones all of them involve someone getting dragged fucked okay. Complaint is the only man with actual cargo in his shorts. Jan Flato auto was asked to leave burning man because of his outfit. You guys just don't get it all right. Jan Flare does burning man name is Jan inflator. Wait a minute. That's mine. Plato calls falling asleep on the couch on his front porch lamping. Ah Janet Reno has accidentally raised seven hard drives with Jan.. FLATO wants issue to follow him on Jan.. LEHTO has accidentally stolen three dogs. Jan Plato's doorbell is a Gong of very racist golf. I was always always amazed at how much he can't believe. It's not butter jam Plato. Call Skim Milk Pussy see water Jan.. Jan flit asleep sitting up. Jim Played a likes to tell tell people he wasn't in the navy. Jim Plato has killed. Someone else was sleep. Apnea just got done binge-watching Silk Stockings on El Salvadorian Hulu. It's ready more out out. Let me see if everyone more do it. Why not give it Let me see where Oh agenda. Later licensed start drinking at ten. Am telling anyone who has a problem with it. Hey It's Cinco de Maya somewhere well done last. One JAMF got thrown out of a top goal for bringing a crossbow that good the top golf because he told some women she'd be a good bottom goal. You guys ready to start the start the show we love Jan love it we love you. He was very worried about Hurricane Doria. I never got a hold of the real map there you go no sharp his at all right so one of the great things we obviously Dan Randy and I can sit around all day with which we would do but we have other guests on this show they want to introduce and we're gonNA bring them. Both out. Sometimes we bring one out and then we bring another one out but we love these guys so much. We're GONNA bring both out. Do we dare do credits for these people. It's just bring them out. We Love we love them so much. They both been on the show in studio so it's so fun to have them here life. Would you please welcome our friends Kate Makuuchi and Andy Richter yeah aw the love it welcome. Welcome welcome here. Andy sit right here. This is you and the and the middle I hi Andy in the middle is the name of the Sitcom writer and in the Middle Lucky Andy. Hey I'm on it so we believe that the world's getting dumber. What do you guys think go? I'll take that long. Pause Science will fix the venture okay. I haven't Jan Jan Plato throw that out. There now is allergic to hand sanitizer. Nothing terrible happens. He just gets really itchy like it. That's the only one I got got laws Greg I think and yeah I mean it's not my theory but I've heard the theory that the reason that we're killing the planet is because we got to clever yeah so actually if we get dumber we might but not like idiocy. They didn't know how to make gas anymore. You know what I didn't know how to refine petroleum so maybe so you know getting dumber and forgetting technology might be better for the planet. Can you just do a tedtalk. I might take that trade off. Ah Caveman cavewoman right we just know how to make bronze and that's the farthest we just ride. Ostriches around tate was fine. It was fine. I'm sure everybody there was shit right. Yeah and everyone died at eight twenty six Amazon. Eliane was very nice. Yeah well and you could park anywhere anywhere. Parking was very easy. Should we get into a story. We get to do something we do fun for these live shows. We play a little game called the Florida birthday that isn't you put your birthday. Yes it deserves deserves it. When you put your birthday just the month and day what day of the month into Google Long I love with? Dan gets out over his skis with hey. I'm just trying to help the Environment Day of the month and so we play that with our guests so we will go first with Mr Pete Yarn Okay. PM Shocked at how much Florida it looks like a gun. I I don't like it. It looks like a gun gone the Dream Bagging Gun Dick John Dick Penis. Do you think that at the top part is the penis. It looks like a gun that just went it needs to be snapped up into shape. Those are some old man balls limp gun lip gun. I think they've been panhandle the little brothers according to the Internet. Your birthday is July twenty seventh. Is that true correct you. Are you ready for who your birthday is. Okay welcome to town. This is wonderful headline. July twenty seventh Florida man caught trying to steal ice cream truck tuck. It is a WHO would convict that I mean come on. We've all thought it right got cooling by a window sale. You know when I found this. It's a six sentence story and it has everything you need. A Hookah Lusa county deputies said a man was caught while he tried to steal an ice cream truck. The crime occurred just after midnight on Friday July twenty seven investigators said the ice cream truck truck owners girlfriend saw thirty year old William gravity. GR A. P. P. Y. William Dot Graph getting with William Crappy to take the vehicle from the home on Angler Avenue according to the sheriff's office the girlfriend followed groppy and he ditched the ice cream truck behind a gas station on on Miracle Strip Parkway yeah this is I don't understand why why would you take a thing out at twelve at I I mean it because it's a damn ice crime but like the fears that the final look into all the ice cream maker run with it or something deputies caught groppy happy and he said quote he apologized for being an idiot very is nice jared goff. It looks like a gasoline character doesn't look item sorry but he's beautiful looks like gosling. Look if if you had that face and you saw that truck you'd be like I live in there. I deserve to be belongs to me. I'll I'll take nine chip which is yeah and he's in Kaluga Count of share up with his mouth full of Shit Lupulosa County and then hair was not outgrown to obey the law. Look at that hair phase expression is like what what like people telling me should be a model they Ryan gosling stunt man right should be as Ryan gosling in the sequel. It's like farther beyond the pines looking at you. Look at the eyelashes on the ice cream truck to let me go back. Go back to Alex Yeah. No kidding that that ice cream truck is saying steel deal yeah the victim Andy. Maybe don't be sorry it's an ice cream truck with eyelashes winks at you. You just can't help yeah. That's that's a steal hither. Look if I've ever seen one okay Andy Richter yes listen. His Birthday is October twenty eighth. It certainly is oh right around the corner. Guys don't forget guys. What do I need? Six broome Bas eh one room six rumors enter one Richter leaves. Here's the headline is October. Twenty eight Florida man arrested for altercation with girlfriend while dressed as dinosaur the guy this is when they were going to have their break-up fight. Don't take me seriously. That's bad journalism analysts. It should have been Florida man arrest as dynasty has altercation with girlfriend. You said it was very loose ends well. The articles aren't great income the trump people time it is Florida journey. Change your mind if I said she was dressed like Mothra or like a big big like Fred Flintstone Lintz don't side and therefore and after all right kate Makuuchi I have your birthday is March thirty first. That's right okay headline. This is perfect to literally encompasses everything that this show is about Florida man pulls kids tooth by tying tobacco Chevy Camaro and speeding away. Oh this kid wasn't even his kid just a neighbor again. That's the day his dad drove away and never ask Dan. Dan GotTa get some a milk man. Pull your teeth very a thing is to that's so Kate Makuuchi the waiting you know that he's had that string in his governor burn for a long time and he just heard out of the year some kid being like quickly. Get it over here. Well not a lot of people know but Camaros do have a little islet just for your like is that for Vir- hook into a Tuesday asks for truth but I just said was like what's going to happen in a remote control car when I was little bit not yet helped me. Did it work yeah this really it was you know wasn't yet perseverance. I love the exciting to patients that obviously got you excited added about showbusiness and here you are those are the guys got an orange Camaro which is like a very or is it orange orange. At least it's took bowl is that is that also his family on the back of that cost like but he's not too proud to have the Calvin and Hobbes family where gave his pissing on some balls fifty two. I'll show you also every week I've got balls for days bro Jim Flett Oh drove that Camaro. That's right. That is the Florida man we get it guys who did it and get it. Shall we jump into a story you ready. Let's do here we go. This was sending by Caitlyn at Sea Norris five seven seven eight to explain that yes it is thank you which by the way it's cut down for kids today. You're such a I'm like what are we ended the hat. Yeah this is from Iran Icho Minnesota coming at you from K. R. A. M. News. They have a different CARACAL Orinoco. There weren't Oko thank you. Andy Richter welcoming coming in a woman is not Okaloosa over the cave woman suspected of being involved in a number burglaries in southeastern Minnesota. That's a seasonal drop. There was crime in the Winter Minnesota's shoot wait out. Just because you're white doesn't mean you blend in that much. I mean a lot of burglaries in southeastern. Minnesota was arrested yesterday after olmsted county deputies pity's found her topless in unusual place in her brain. Where are you at right now girl boring I'm in Narnia still at burning why not topless olmsted county sheriff's Captain Scott? How how would you say bear Berne's Burns B. E. H. S? I just want to be there in earns says the unusual circumstances of Kristen hearts arrest started the way the unusual circumstances of Chris Paul Paul Thomas Anderson movie or a Kid's movie uh-huh or lifetime movie Dustin Hoffman. Hey she threw him down the stairs. The unusual circumstances of Kristen hearts arrests started when a husband and wife spotted her running out of their house when they return to their rural home which means they kept at telling the reporter. This is our rural so there's these were doing well down the street so this is suburban home no okay but it's in the suburbs right. That's silo in the backyard. I don't understand why you don't listen to us. We're saying rural. They returned to their rural home southeast of what's or no or Noko late Thursday afternoon. If you pull up to your house out and some other ways thank you for making the distinction I appreciate it so running running out of it topless. I don't think so at this point. Okay don't go in and don't let them whatever they've done. Leave that crime scene in tax with you. Also don't know who else is still in the house. That's right. I think he would make a judgment based on the appearance of the purse right. Give who other friends who now I I haven't credible power of observation. I could judge okay. It's safe to go in after that. Crazy person ran out so there's another one that's like it might be moral sure they returned to their rural home and she comes running out late Thursday afternoon that is when the seventy three year old man reacted by jumping into his golf car and attempting to follow her know that he is not this is they were in a car and then he got into golf yeah yeah I'm not wasting gas on time. We take this up a notch. You don't you know what I want to stay fourteen feet behind her at all times forty. Five seconds of the conversation is in charge. I don't know did do charge it will turn it on the back it's not beeping seventy three zero reactive jumping into his golf cart and attempting to follow the Byron woman into the woods the ACO to the family's property. It's a rural very rural okay you know he had his golf clubs. Still on the car. Do significant to begin to rural is when you live in the suburbs people are coming out of your house at all time top literally. That's why you move to a rural areas you so you don't come home and like Oh. You'RE GONNA run out of my house. So what Golf Cart does he have that he's like. I'm going into the woods yes and also to a golf cart through the woods. Yes a lot a lot of jiggle yeah lot of jiggle turning to but he's seventy three so the rug should have been Smith. His wife chose to patrol troll the main road. They are on tactical well. They've they've lived their entire lives for this. They pulled out saw wife looked at the husband and says let's like spiders caught herself. I send up a drone triangulate. You got my rural gun. No I only have the city. We're going to use it when you live rurally you. Are Your Own Neighborhood Watch. Yes you gotta be everyone. I love that word of his wife chose to patrol as she was like all right. What strategy do I WANNA? Take appear secure the perimeter. I definitely use the word perimeter. Yes honey work. The perimeter. I'm taking the woods sits the way in bed. She is definitely there's any ass work the perimeter much now but you are lying without saying for those who aren't Randy and Jason hit that joke at the same moment ten seconds before either of them settings yeah. Oh that was is beautiful yeah yeah. It's almost like they have the same ass. Do sounds like we both work the perimeter to okay. She chose to patrol the main road in the area and came upon Kirsten exiting the woods along Eighteenth Avenue northwest. Ask Her I know she was like bitch. Hello Bitch well. Hello in turtle'll the Little Red Riding Hood to make this pair. I'm GONNA give you fifteen seconds to find any sort of would that you think will help you in this wrath yeah it's Minnesota. I know we make fucking for like okay bitch. You're in trouble now. Oh you don't know that all boy best funded with the wrong rural going. You know Hoffy hot. What I am at you right now? Boy All dries up played a hot dish on your fucking. Tell you right now. This is gone in the newsletter. Everyone Turano you better run. Those woods don't last forever Canadia. I came down close. Uh in Canada for a while. There's no bylaws to save your. I'll chase you all the way up tip Amaechi a bitch you ever see that movie a simple plan kill some great movie. Barons says that these sixty four year old woman to are I'm not fucking around confronted heart and the two got into a scuffle that resulted in the younger woman that's heart losing her shirt. The little boy street Minnesota porn right walk of Fame GimMe Gimme my shirt sure well. You know it was her shirt. That's my only vikings shirt pool. That's all you. It's a case keenum shirt that he signed yeah but he's no longer on the BRA. Yeah Good Luck Okay so the kristen loses her shirt in the scuffle Christian and how weird scenario yeah that's when a passer-by came upon the women one now topless Chris Rock and no Bra Ah just going to walk the dogs nothing happened in this society back in a couple of minutes nothing to watch out for are not walk okay at eight on meet still a tip free zone right. That's when a passer-by answer by came upon the women one now topless fighting next to the roadway which means I hope that the older woman who was like keep it in the ditch keeping it ain't wrote fight yeah. I'll fight you on the side of the road but don't go out. I'll punch you on a shoulder but I'm not trash after all. I'M NOT GONNA fight in the road when the man stopped and asked what was happening to to. Let's let's going on over here. the CAN I put money down. The Topless Hart claimed that she was being assaulted and then the man offered her a ride the top by the way the topless hard could have been the B side to the body tyler. That's very true. I can't make you fight me. If if you own heart claims that was for you art claimed that she was being assaulted in the man offered her a ride I love that conversation to WHO's winning who who started at both data and if you take your top ball he took a nice guy again tougher rights. I like you need some cover getting under this rag chilly out yeah smell this gas rag. What no it can take you where you WANNA go but not to my house because I'll get killed? One of the deputies responding to the couple's call of a burglary in progress aggress not technically true. She was outside of the House burglary had been done soon located. The man's parked the man's car part in field driveway. I've never heard of a feel you'll driveway hits rural. Never your driveway just drive into the field. There's a driveway and it's a field. I know exactly what woods end the field. This is very very rural. How soon located the man's car parked in a field driveway and pulled him over? When he tried tried to drive off? He has fully committed to hearts lifestyle this point we're running. We're running all my family. I don't care well. Let's go Aziz topless woman. I've ever seen can't let them hurt you. They'll take you away after finding him alone. In the passenger passenger compartment no one's ever described a car like the love love. Oh Yeah One of those board pods therefore separate pod the need a new cop really wants to use as much jargon as possible which compartment was he had the the passenger after finding him alone in in the passenger compartment. The officer asked about the woman he had picked up and bearing says the deputies were informed that she was in the trunk of the car no right. What is the conversation once she gets in the definitely you definitely want to be hidden now so yeah I love that? None of I think the. Bt K. has been like Jack. I was it occurred to me back. Got The truck. Whatever you want also like what a Cornucopia of good luck for a serial Waukesha God forget it lead rope and duct tape for nothing? Don't even have to come up with a story they find me this is he tries to explain himself. The man explained that he became very uncomfortable over the situation that he had found himself in their injectable. Yeah he had found himself you bet and the topless woman suggested placing herself self in the trunk which is where the deputies found her no place personnel to place myself in this book. I'm happy to help yeah but I don't I don't think I can. I can't stop looking at your dead so I can't drive like this. Well listen. Do you want me to place you in there. You WanNa play hearts like what have I get the truck. I'm not comfortable with anyone who wants to get into know. Your standard of life is too low right on the top up. If anything styles in thank you thank you and welcome team captain barons and got in your and got it stolen from the Orinoco Orinoco and he's going to love love. This is what this is. Kristen Hart got from house one thing makes sense and the only makes sense to her stolen stolen from the home was about one hundred and fifty dollars in cash and a fake one million dollar bill the sea life had oh i hit the rural jackpot. You know told me to do that city Robin they were wrong. I I knew I knew I'd find a goldmine. They got a million dollar pills all she did keep the one hundred fifty so she's still sensible. This'll this'll be my welcome. I'll live off the million dollar bill for the rest of my last picture like Charlie and the talk factor just holding it up being like lying. They got it. She kept one hundred fifty just is like where am I going to cash this million dollar bill. No one's going to have each for yeah boy. I told my boys I'd come back. Let it sink in the sheriff's Office also reported order. The arrest of a known associate of heart wanted for a recent break in Eddie Rochester Charter school. This is where the story takes a weird left turn and the details answer just random enough that has kept in bare says investigators obtain information indicting thirty eight year old Robert Felton and that he could be found in Pine Island Cemetery. What is he with? I don't know what is the connection. This is what I heard. She was like wanting to do this with goes. Tell us about that Charter Schools Waltham in Rochester Shoe. We all do well. We were just talking about it yesterday already to get Captain Captain Barrett says investigators obtained information indicating that thirty eight year old Robert Felton could be found in the Pine Island Cemetery. Listen she writes she writes is cars in the trunk. He Sleeps Very Liam. Mason movie are you in where the person is waiting for you in a cemetery all of them all of them when deputies from both goodhew and olmsted county arrived at the scene they spotted him that would be Robert Felton standing next to a car just in a cemetery. How long was he waiting there for them to think crying over his dad Barron's ear you're pissing on his grave Barrett says Felton attempted to flee on foot member he was next to a car? I mean he had a golf cart. He would have been gold yeah point but was tackled by deputies and taken into custody ever tackle. Someone at a cemetery just feels very approachable. I know you got to avoid the stone. Yes yes I will ask you this and we will get out of here on this. How old is Kristen Hart guests so you can go first tig third or fourth or fifth year and I want you to play along as well? This is everything you know about our show run through the woods. She'll fight in a ditch. She'll she doesn't mind getting in a trunk so rat out her thirty eight year old okay friend. She feels like it is okay to fight a sixty four year old woman after you broken although in her defense if you look at it from her view everything she's doing is to hold onto a one million dollar does she does not know that that is not a denomination of currency. No do you think that she the Felton guy knew. The million dollar bill was there and it was like all planned out sort of out of sight. We planned it. Oh Yeah I'm GONNA take one hundred fifties. They don't miss the we had. He got a million dollar building their whole yeah. They don't wait for Bush's island cemetery drive me over there. I'm going to hop in the is it like a city home. No no it's a rural rural country on tree Andy Peop- where would you go first. I WANNA say she's thirty to thirty two years old so much ahead of her Kinda in prison What do you want to say? I got her at thirty. Nine is all just for the sake it surprising aging it out. I'M GONNA say she's Seventeen Pete's applause for that over thirty nine. I just hope she's like I promised myself. I'd be a millionaire here by forty Dag namic. Nobody's GonNa Take Vision Board at it happened. The Lord did it I technically was they took my top off and you know she didn't care about the top because she just check for that bill so I think shrink Taylor so now she has associates which to me feels like she is in a position of power. I think she's forty nine yeah but she's thirty eight all their own life. When did you have the most friends when you were young? They don't have any now most of my friends our associates now so when you have friends and hang out of the cemetery like isn't that like the cool kids in high school at smoke cigarettes. Yes I have those times those guys and Morrissey. That's it wow so. What did you say forty nine? Richter says seventeen cates thirty two pizzas thirty nine I'M GONNA say she's forty. Five forty five forty five from the crowd Steven Nelson hates is a friend of the show he supports us. He's a Patriot it and he is here tonight Stephen. Would you like to make a guess twenty thirty years all just graduated and got her master's degree. Okay Eh brother right here. What's your name Justin? Welcome to town. Give me a guess fifty two justin. We're thinking of factor after I should have highlighted for you. Guys is afternoon robbery at average age that changes every damn it. I'm out of here. 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She was for a brief period live two doors down from me and and I was she met my oldest daughter who she and her friend play music and and the really good but she sat in the car while my daughter played out of her for phone the songs and she pretended to be so interested I know you're so sweet and she loved it so much. I have to publicly say how truly special sweep that was for honestly boost songs are really good catchy and fun but it just was great great and I was watching you. Watch it and watch her. Watch her watch. You Watch it. It was very very often really shit. I'm sorry we're not neighbors anymore but now you live near J. I know where it's pretty great from. Scottish sklar is our next well. I can't wait. I hope you put all that that stuff down and I have a dream that we make that all of our friends who are in teams in comedy teams. We do a series of team special on Netflix. I'M GONNA say it out into the world so flicks yes. We're GONNA pitch it. I just saw little ours is on Netflix. Yes it's a crazy movie. People people everyone should go watch it is a yeah and and we didn't have a script it was all Improv wild tonight where we are completely scripted. You guys great. Thank you for staying the cue to cue. We had today at two PM on Santa. I honestly it was relentless. Were hurt. We wanted to overlap relax yeah. I wanted to weigh damn. It was like come on the fucking Largo ah well. Aren't you glad you came though I'm very glad you wrote that line for just the fucking larvae so much delivered it the right well. You Know Oh yeah with everything you're saying right now. I really am thanks to you. Guys there. We go. That's good you got it. We sold the forgetting all right Dan. Do we have another story we do. We should remind people like what Andy's up to us as as well. Oh me well actually I do a podcast called the three questions and I love this podcast. Thank you very it's great because because it's a human rohrschack test really where people can you see who they are. No I just I don't care about anything anymore except for having real conversations conversations and so this podcast is about the three questions are and it's just a gimmick to get people to talk about feelings healings but it works but they are. Where do you come from where you going and what have you learned and so it just gets people a sense of what they're in for? We're not just is going to plug your shit. We gotta you gotTa really talk coming up tomorrow. There's an episode with Scott Thomsen and it's it's truly truly one of the best conversations I've had in years and years and it's really revealing and really he's as a wonderful person and he's one of the bravest people I know in terms of just being forthcoming and honest phrase show warts and all and it's really really great and I hope you check that out every question you ought trouble with your bosses listening to what the question it gets. People crying the most well the questions are on where you go make. It's just sort of startling so where you from and what was your dad like and do you think you're that way because your dad was that way and yeah in that way because my dad was that were doing that but but it's you know that was funny because started with Ear Wolf in and I heard that the higher ups at Your Wolf which means people well at least two decades younger than me course we're saying I don't think you're hitting the three questions hard enough and I was just like they actually said something like committee. You should split it up into three twenty minute chunks like where I go like I. Where do you come from times up so it no it's it's just a gimmick to get people in the frame of mind to talk about? What made you wear? Do you plan to go with with how you are and what kind of what's what's your sort of what philosophy of learn from this book and mess so you took their notes three easy chunks all right good twenty minute chunks I sure did the higher ups always know best three chunks the higher ups know best voice always tell our friends what you're up to what are we doing. I'm sure you have dates go to superstar Superstars com dropping but we're going to be in Chicago Tinley Park Convention Center Enter yes and then the next night and then we're doing this podcast live at the Bell House in Brooklyn on October thirteenth which is a Sunday with Michael J. and Aparna Non Sharell. It's it's GonNa be really fun. We're going to get their musical guests there as well. I wish I was on that leads year. Yarn is saying I wish I it was a partner Aparna that show Dan what are you doing. Everybody can go to Daniel anchor dot com about to do the final run together tour. You're I will be hitting up like Cincinnati. Cleveland Rochester Detroit Philly Boston New York. She tried the mid West Yeah I know. Are you really going to those places or are you just naming town one hundred percent going those places Louisville Nashville Milwaukee and I'm ending my tour on November Fifteenth in Rochelle Illinois and award in my hometown so my grandma can come see and then a whole bunch of high school can judge me so if you go to Daniel van Kirk your grandma's com seen I mean come see you and she got so drunk. I know I know she's like I'm helping the show know your put your topic topic here. Rosemary was my favorite about Wisconsin is that they have a state like strudel estate. Pastry is a wrinkle Kringle ringgold kringle so grandma made kringle to me sounds like she had an accident believing grandma Kriegel ono the dog's eating oh the damage get it away from the so. Why do you want to put her in the home? There's no he doesn't know she made it anyway. She's been making crinkles all over town like a children's book aw but like really deals with all ready for another story day ago by Matt Town at Matt T I N T N Ninety eight T in t that makes perfect percents Mattie in Tennessee Ninety eight is are you ready good because we've gotta Outta Greenlee now to explain to you guys. I don't know what that Mule Greenlee mad that man right there will greenlee journalist. He's a journal and I say journalists with the widest air quotes I as far apart is he also looks like somebody who says no I said how are Greenlee right stood the TC Palm and he writes about these crazy odd stories that happened we we there are several theories that are being bandied about. We think that he has fifteen hundred words to fill in every story and every story comes out to nine hundred words right so oranges just spent the rest of the type it up over anything that we don't need explain sites pat on the first time and we had a greenlee and he described in that article how an anchor works how an anchor were very flowery descriptions so the game we like to play is Dan has gotten so good at this is is Dan will read the story verbatim and then he will describe something in detail and we have to decide whether it was Dan did that who over explain something or they'll really right and it is so we'll get into it and it is leaves done this so many times. I've actually gotten worse at exactly. I would think that I would learn your tells Dan. I don't no it you will get an opportunity guests greenlee or or meet I also say in this one. I noticed that he want to be funny so you will also try to figure out if that pun came from Greenlee or can i. I'm really excited says soak it. Oh yeah this is too much pressure. I don't leave the house at this age to get nervous. Andy and he lives rurally yeah very bourbon rural as I said the headline so you know what we're dealing with deputies crack in case of crack incorrect we stood cracking. I think that's Greenlee you. One point you. You got your already. Succeeding Deputies Crack case of crack in crack. Yes someone up there already kind of sexy crack and crack Indian town now which doesn't feel okay no not real. We shouldn't change that by now like when you're driving Indiana and the two towns sounds extra Brownsville whites town and you're like why. KKK started his change Indian town. That's the last time I'm going to say adopt in the case involving Anna Nicole Maldonado did not appear to take much investigative skill to crack back who started out with a pun greenlee or me run it down friends any order. I didn't go okay greenlee as Greenlee Pete what he thinks that Greenlee feels greenlee does feel feels green versus screaming guys play along at home silently the case involving evolving anabol- Maldonado did not appear to take much investigative skill to crack the person who started this with a pawn is greenlee yeah. I knew it tim that's because the thirty five year old man volunteered to a Mark Martin County Sheriff's deputy that he had crack cocaine and the crack of his buttocks according to a report from a local sheriff that was able to read between the lines. Come on come on aw Dan Ramsey Dini K. or green light. That was grandly okay. I'm GONNA say that. Was You okay okay. This is where we know too much like I know you to. It's almost like that game like but if it's like the yeah no it's like the principle. It's so obvious that I thinking the wrong way. I'm going to say that that was greenlee. Okay Greenlee did he told them that he had crack and his buttocks according according to a report from a local sheriff that was able to read between the lines the person who wrote that is be- I says hi hi Andy or two for two and you by the way Dan knows reweighting ice cream from a stolen is like it's very rural. How now I was a good boy all afternoon yeah one keep your hands on the table then? I looked like I just realized running away wasn't a good idea. A golf cart just goes by with lady with not one hundred percent. It's okay. Let's keep going can't believe you did that day. That was further. Maldonado said he had marijuana in his sock. What could it'd be described as an incident to demonstrate drugs aren't what they're cracked up to be heard July twelfth in NBN town? Dammit I Senate again who said that Greenlee or me is what is crap drugs aren't with the Jason Dan. This is how confused I am. The person who said drugs they're cracked up to be guys. Do you know because the answer is is green three for three and each this it has we're so fresh do an ATM as opposed to an earlier time such as the crack of dawn. Oh God dammit it. Just you can just get past that we know that was you know that we know you're listening at home. You miss out aw reactions like kate looking me and going know. How could you but I'm GONNA feed off? Richter's confidence and I'd say that's Dan okay. Andy says me Kate you okay. I'M GONNA say Greenland Jake stay with non so far to have over three wasn't me it happened about. ATM as opposed to an earlier time such as the crack of dawn the person who wrote that it is we'll greenlee baby. I knew you green like he really I dare you. These are my people Cranley. I just is love remember. We did this with John. C Reilly John C Reilly was like my head her yeah there's a guy who writes for the TC palm all the way across the country and Andy Richter just said fuck you to hear because I know you I credited credited him with some restraint like the real shoehorned in bullshit. I knew that was him see it. This is how it hard no rules will. He didn't want to stories. We were live at mood tower and he for three sentences just included the lyrics from the phone song that was three eighty cents is of a journalists article. That's one time he wrote about fat bottomed girls paragraphs so either he has he only gets to nine the words he needs to get to fifteen hundred or he thinks the people he's writing for are so dumb. He has to explain it right just really having a good about this game. What does he have any idea? He knows he did a Red Ama because he helped crack it's in the script I have to to say outcry helped expose the Robert Kraft case so he got a lot of heat for that. It was a big case and a lot of the A ama was just people being you know about don't people town right like you know and so he's aware someone's like they play a game with your thing and he's like ooh. I love that it sounds like based on how should you are you know in the Ama game is a something play the winners and losers in their players deputy spoke to Maldonado in the one thousand. I'm sorry let me tell you spoke tomato. In the fourteen thousand seven hundred block of South West Dr Martin Luther King Good have editor at street's too long yeah. You shouldn't be over like eight thousand. I have a dream to shorten that street. They spoke to him regarding earlier cases involving alleged drug sales after investigators read red Maldonado Maldonado his Miranda rights. He is accused of not cracking a joke but of disclosing the crack in his key stor and hot in his suck one of which is worn on each foot. Who wanted you to know wear socks? Go Greenlee thinks you need to know where socks go or I thought it'd be fun to tell you are doubting yourself. You went three the game. You got screened like No. No I mean I just you know you seem to possess a modicum of Shane. I wish I don't think that was you think that's Greenlee. Okay key stor. Wait what the include keystone. I don't think I mean in your from Rochelle Illinois. You wouldn't have the nerve to say keys keystone pretty offensive. Dan Okay Okay Sesame Greenlee appeal official answer with this Guy Greenlee the person who said that he had pot in his the sock one of which is worn on each foot the one who wrote that is green leaves you go there. You go see you also said the over explaining and that was the first instance of over eating dinner saying we've done this game before we're all its was all Dan Grammy Rodeo with no no embellishment at all. Okay investigators say they plucked the tube containing crack from Maldonado's buttocks. The fleshy protrusion is below the lower back aw he's excluding explain what but it was a but it's to someone who would read this while sitting. Maybe say it one more flashier play at one more time. Investigators say they plucked to containing crack from Maldonado's buttocks six the fleshy pro tube rinses below the lower back plus. She fled. She says she has less she also where I will allow the fleshy tube rinses below the lower but we saying the that entire all of those words words or just the fleshy the embellishment of fleshy rinses below the lower back branding. I think that's damn okay. I think that you too okay Dan. I'm saying Dan OK P greenlee. I love the confidence contrary with us. The person who wants you to know what about is and where it's located thank you is will green Kate. Are you okay I mean I I wanna read. Every one of this is amazing. He assumes someone out. There was like thank you. Oh I like to imagine an enraged editor with everything turns in like I I got. I told you while I gotta run it now. I gotTa Stop Wearing two socks on one foot. Greenlee always turns turns in two minutes before it goes the time to look at it not trust him. It's J. K. Simmons from Spiderman Spiderman Movies doing on a Cigar Craig. I know what a buttocks is. I just don't know where take Greenlee can blow those journal. That guy has a veteran journalist if you're going to say it's put flashy dammit so it's above the lower back the lower back. You know who what where why when aw all the journalism things Maldonado of native American town was arrested. Thank you thank you so much. Thank you name was arrested in connection with the crack and earlier cases investigators later learned that his true new last name is Velazquez something he had hoped to keep behind him. A sheriff's spokeswoman Said who said that me or Greenlee Greenlee Okay Yeah. I think that's Greenlee. Okay okay. I mean what what's at stake really at at this point screen just heart and soul of Indian town. I mean Dan on this one. That's greenlee okay. Investigators later learned that is true. Last name is Velazquez something he had hoped to keep behind him. A sheriff's spokeswoman said the person who wrote that is me on fire yard just on point. Finally I liked that one because it was subtle say thank you finally he was taken to the Martin County jail and they they are no loose ends. That doesn't even like that's exactly what are their. Someone goes so plants waiting below the lower back. I think he just wanted to end none of flare. Yeah that seems that seems like a very lazy Greenlee. You had to randy. I think it's a lazy greenlee only two laser greenlee favorite. Hey Jason Lazy Greenlee advocates okay favorite December video. I I was thinking like Lazy River but he says it's you you say me okay Greenlee and your said it's Dan okay do even know a score for now is crushing. We all end up winners America one the only the only loser is Indian Indian town. They were here. I town okay. I can't believe we didn't steal that side exciting. That's one of my favorite things and somebody's technically in America. We're all immigrants and I'm like not all about everybody. There are bunch of people that were not okay. He was taken the Martin County jail and there are no loose ends. The person who ended the article and this show with that sentence is me This is sort of like a taste test between a dog shit sandwich and human ships exactly like really they're. They're both shit. Oh Shit Sandwich level. I mean with the most I'll tell you about respect respect and you did that Shit Sandwich. I eat sandwiches two pieces of bread Dan so what are we doing. Are we GONNA do Pete do a song and we didn't know we can get our time. ooh Jesus no we're good. We ran at all all we ran. We ran the whole game. Sir Okay all right. we're going to close the show out with a very pete yarn song and then we'll come back and say thank you guys the Pr Sauna Short Song is vessel. Thanks for having me here. You guys do your amazing thank you you won the greedily game the sit here and watch this show. Amazingness can't get a word didn't so complicity amazing you you guys are thanks for having me on the only of some I ever wrote Greenlee a hey girl okay okay Take Ooh ooh yarn everybody Kate Makuuchi and director Jason Scar. I'm Rennie's is Dan van Kirk. Thank you guys so royal the dumb dumb dumb starving podcast

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Let JB Smoove Fix Your Life

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

13:11 min | 5 months ago

Let JB Smoove Fix Your Life

"Hi listeners. It's me. Andy richter i know you tune into the three questions for deep funny and thought provoking conversations with your favorite people. But where do you tune in for answers to the big questions like what's purpose. How can i change the world. Hardaway become my most enlightened self. Well there's only one man who can answer those questions for you and his name. Is jay be smooth. You may know. J. b. is leeann from curb your enthusiasm or from his multifaceted tv and film career. And now jp is here to help you. Team coco is launching. His new podcast. May i elaborate. Daily wisdom from j b smooth today every morning. Monday through friday. B. will take an inspirational quote and squeeze even more meaning and motivation. Out of it in a way that only j. b. can do each episode is bite sized between ten and fifteen minutes long. And it's the perfect way to kick off your day feeling enlightened entertained and grounded very funny and a little weird. It's very j. b. He's the perfect thing to wake up to just ask his wife and i've got an episode free to listen to right here right now. Listen enjoy find some inner peace and if you like it head on over to wherever you get your podcast and subscribe so you don't miss a single episode and now jade's move new day new you waco with only bucket granted to may i elaborate daily wisdom from me be smooth who look to. Do you even know where you are right now. Always say look you look at yourself you know. I want to have a place where you can be the best. The best fucking you you can be said it's an army to be all you can be fucked beyond you can be you all say i should incorrect. I told my books. Brb can be turned to keep your one hundred one hundred or it every now. I'm gonna keep it one hundred one hundred and one hundred to fuck around and go one hundred twenty years. I don't know sometimes how fast i'm jotting it. Tell you whereas sometimes you driving by mile proud zone whereas the seventy five in your mind you you some of this stuff. You should be writing down or memorizing keeping that shit nabet yo hit a term paper some shit like that so i'm davies move. I'm a god to enlightenment. Wanna introduce you guys to ma co host miles. Hey hey miles. People always ask what a committed. No always say. I'll tell people a specific place Like one of those aisles and target ship like that all a walmart. When i tell them the universe in a bucket universe see york the it could be more specific but yeah i get what you're saying. Yeah mouth that's what we're here to do. Every day on may elaborate daily wisdom from gb smooth. We're going to be looking at new delhi quote from a box calendar. You know the ones that have the positive quotes between j. b. and i we have a pretty big collection of them so every day. I'll just pick a calendar and a quote to read j b and he'll elaborate on it. Tell us jb. What do you mean by elaborate. Means i'm going to try to dig into the quote to see if i can get all the wisdom and inspiration. We can out of it. You know it's kind of like a you know when you get a massage and utility to lay on me deep tissue and you put their she. Put the elbow in your tissue of your back. I'm going to be doing that you all the time i mean. These are pretty good. But i think i can give you a even deeper massage if i may elaborate on that okay. We'll we'll probably have to come up with a safe word. B. people know you is just extremely funny. Comedian very talented actor. Why are you doing this like why. Why do you feel like you. Need to do a podcast. Will you give people advice mouth. I do this shit all day. I give people advice customhouse unique to livery unique voice fucking believe me when i say some shit like that it really bucking lived noah hepatoma hamlet. Their ship need him. Who can mirror. You wanna stange endorse motive. Each to better yourself. Not the. he's figured it all out. We've got debt. Some who's on their way with you. You heard people is clearly qualified and certified self help guru and by certified. I mean not at all today are co comes from the zen pay today. Calendar from workman publishing so get that elaboration brain going. Here it is. I cried for happiness for sadness but most of all for emptiness and that quote is by daul kim. I'm going to the shit out of that one. i feel it s a feel it before you elaborate. I think we should take a quick break. Sounds good we'll be right back Look at us we back and before we are to a break lead this on you. Acropora happiness for sadness. Most of all for fifty s so a lot of crying. It's a lot of crime is when you re now if you sit there and allow your ears to cry contain was the over shit like sadness. Happiness emptiness was will start crying. You're crying over every fucking day and that in turn will not just affect your mental but also you can help how you are allowing fluids for your body to exit your body causing fucking dehydration. Tell you something yohe's s gonna get sick. You wanna fuck around and being fucking hospital. Bid with the inter. Venus hoped to your because you are low on your fucking fluids as you keep fucking crying. I get you're saying it's a lot of tears but tears of joy versus tears of sadness. Is that matter to at all that matters to me. But you'll have a craft fucking much of every goddamn a mama used to call it. Naughty call it in the medical world. Momma said this too but even medical doctors citizenship. They call it a water ahead nor the fucking water heaters as somebody's fucking head is full of fucking water. I'm not talking about just just fucking tears. Don't talk about the the body fluids all kinds of ways fucking urine sweat crying of course pissing as all fluids as bodily fluids in your body. You can't afford to lose all that shit over crying. I'm an added understood up. He seemed to be pretty knowledgeable on bodily fluids. But i don't think you're addressing the bigger issue at hand. Okay so there. So what do they do instead. What what's the. What's the healthy release of all of these emotions. Don't wanna sept his tears of joy that means we have accomplished our goal to get into a place where you are fucking happy enough to accept your happiness. So you're saying you you gotta choose what you're gonna cry now. Of course it's it's already tell you don't crop spill milk. That's another big. Say they should. All the time knew who cries over spilled milk fucking towels towels. Only know that crowder spilt milk. No why couldn't pundits is wasting their shit if you fuck spill milk you know who loves milk fucking cabs. 'cause let's their mommy. The mommy gives them the fucking other and they suck on shit and they get nutrition nutrition. That's what the fuck that focus. Four miles instance miles question. Where were you a formula baby or titi baby as a very personal question. His a formula comes myself. A titi has a breast milk. Yes and that's what. I'm offended when i tell you about party or a lady productivity out on the bus to be a child beautiful. I liked it. You added to feed her child. I just wondered where people just doing that around. She just pulling them out for no reason no outside world a titty Video child should be acceptable. I agree with you. You are nursing a a young king a young queen come into this world where you a formula baby or a did he. Baby titty baby. Matilde baby doesn't bother former and nothing wrong with former still nurses dividing some some some people depending on consistency of said breast milk now. Some breast milk den dinner some thicker some some breast milk in the wintertime as like a milkshake. Because it's a little frost on the phone because mav a milkshake can drink shit. All stars mcdonnell. Fat draw with the red stripes on c. Sometimes you need a big straw. The drink that fucking titty milk and we ask you a question. We're talking a lot about crying. Are you a big crier. Do you cry no. I don't cry a lot. I'm gonna be honest but what about like a pixar movie is something like that. Like toy story or something story not story. She was hard and a lot. But what if. I if i do i excuse myself. I said excuse me one second. You know what my tuna fucking restaurant was going. Los ball released shit. See my shit is more combined. It won't just be tears by should be outraged. Fucking a give one at owl's sometime want to replace it my tears. If you could just wrap this up what's the takeaway. We learned that cows. Don't like you laughing at them spilling the milk and all that stuff losing a lot of bodily fluids unhealthy but what is the takeaway for. Today is kip. Us hydrated. hydration is. What's gonna come back. You losing your fucking fluid and crying over stupid shit. Hydrate over hide. Rachel sell over height yourself. Fucking police bringing the smart water. I guess i should hydrate. Hydrogen netbook fiji water. Come out. pg war shit. It's water don't taste water water water baby tears. Well that's it for today and thanks for listening to our very first episode may elaborate designing. I guess we'll see people back here tomorrow and can do all over again. They were monday to friday mouth. Kick back on the weekends so the same day. Hydrate impressed if you're motivated or inspired today. Which hey i don't know. Please tell a friend about this. Show listen and follow wherever you get your podcast. And you can motivate us by giving us a great review on apple podcast first week and could be a huge help and finally follow us on instagram. And team coco podcast. Sixty s. we'll be popping up there. I mean nowadays. Thank you so much. Listen and we'll see you back here tomorrow. You really think i'm sexy. You all right. Man just went down to all right okay. That was may. I elaborate jay smooth and if you enjoyed it go subscribe wherever you get your podcast and rate and review it. It makes a big difference on launch day. Thanks so much for listening. I'll be back with another episode tomorrow. This has been a to cocoa production in association wolf.

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A  Fatherly Recommendation From Andy

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

07:58 min | 1 year ago

A Fatherly Recommendation From Andy

"Hey France Andy Richter wanted to tell you about a new show from team Coco. It's called Dad's the podcast and it's hosted by the very funny comedian Rory Scoville each week he and his co Ruthie Wyatt are joined by special guest to talk parenting fatherhood and the ways our families. All made us who we are. I'm talking about folks like David, cross, John, Leguizamo Sabrina Julie's and yes even. made it doesn't matter if you're not dad, the show is for everyone the first episode drops today with my pal Conan O'Brien. It's funny. It's thoughtful and they get little deep which I enjoy. So I'm going to play some of it for you. Now, if you like it head on over to dads the podcast to hear the whole episode and subscribed, and now here's rory scoville talking with Conan O'Brien. Did. Your other siblings also realize the the reward of making her dad laughs become competitive or it was like could be the funniest who could get his attention in that in that way I think it's Bill Murray who said that or his education in comedy a lot of it was around the kitchen table and my parents still with us and still living in in Brooklyn Massachusetts and they sit at that same table and I see it every time I go home and they still serve food to the places of their kids. There yeah, and the kids aren't there. But. It's. It's like baseball. Now they've just put up cardboard images. Of Fuss and Food just going bad for these. Ladle ladle oatmeal onto the old cruddy cardboard cutouts. Riding with stinking, food. The food just dribbles down the front and then they have arguments with us. You know. Why can't you do better in math and but anyway yeah, I go and I sit at that table and I think, yeah, I, used to I exactly where I used to sit and each one of us would try and get on a roll and try and get something going and. That's where it started started for me. Yeah. Is Their Dad funny yeah he's funny. It's so funny to talk about my dad this way but I'm talking about him now like a comedian. I'm like, you know he's funny but sometimes it's delivery is to sit. He winds it up too much. Too Precious. or He society. Little. Bag. He'll tell you a story, but then but then. Remember. I. Told You earlier he'll remind you. got that part. Yeah. It'd be like dad, speed it up. Yeah and Jimmy. We're going to rewrite it and you've recommend the setup semi at times. xactly I get it I get it. We all get it. What are you a fucking scientists or? The funniest scientist at work. I have cardboard cutouts about this is. Funnier than my microscope. What was your experience? When did you rory? You'RE GONNA say it I'm just going to say it. You're one of the funnier people I know and I don't know a lot of people you know me. I know the. Secretary of Defense. And I think you're the funniest those two. But you're you're very, very incessantly funny person in a very unique way and it's this thinking like you had to have known that early that you had. That superpower you hide no I one. I appreciate you saying that very much. I agree that I think with Bill Moran. What you just said is that it it starts at such a young age. I. It also started for me realizing how much my dad like his siblings, how you could get their attention. If you did something funny because they would all try to be funny I think to make their dad laugh and as like the grandchild of that I got to witness. And then try to figure out how to fit into it, which is funny because I don't think any of my other siblings do that at all I had no competition of anyone else trying to be. Funny. All of my other siblings were like, no we're making straight A.'s and becoming doctors and that's what's impressing dad and I'm like I'm choosing a career that doesn't pay anything for a solid decade. So who's winning now? So who's winning because he'll smirk sometimes it might. But I remember my dad very clearly. I. Think it was on AMC back when AMC was actually played classic movies and it was like or maybe. Turner. Classic. Movies. But the Marx Brothers horse feathers came on and my damn made me watch it. And I remember that kind of the light bulb went off that adults can be silly and then I was like, Oh, I like I thought adults could make jokes but then it never occurred to me you could make a career out of it. So I I'm willing to bet that there's a lot of comedians Who Do have? Influence of either parent right. But for some reason and I think that's Kinda where this podcast. Generates from, is that mystery of of DADS and fathers and why? Why was it that when your dad laughed at a joke that meant so much to you and I've made you there's so many dads who were like. It was tough to get them to laugh or it meant something. It's one of the best connections you can. With somebody because there's a kind of making someone laugh at something even kind of strange. That's uniquely you is a way of almost having a secret handshake like you know you know that they really understand you. It's such a it's such an important thing and so you know obviously. Freud explained it a million times but where Freight of our dads but we also there are heroes you know part of us wants to murder them. The other part thinks will know I'll get caught. I can't kill him. I'll do time in jail but it could look like an accident then you go down that climb still a minor. Time to do it. Before. I turned sixteen but I'm always putting stuff off with Roy also says, yeah, exactly and you know he doesn't have a set schedule he goes to the lab at different times. Hard to position myself with the rifle. In the right place I don't know when the car is gonNA come by. And you know the right rifle I ordered it through the mail which was Oswald's mistake. Don't do that. You want to make sure it's not connected to you. Anyway we've all had those thoughts and more that's. Sums up all of our thoughts about fathers, but if you can make. Your father laugh it's magical. It's this magical like he gets me and I just reduced him to this guy shaking red-faced defying pile and you're like, that's fantastic. So of course that would. Then want to double down on that. That was just a sneak preview of DAD's the podcast. Are you enticed? Did you like it? Are you not entertained? Head over to dads the podcast and listened to the whole thing and most importantly subscribe. You can find the show on apple podcasts, spotify stitcher or wherever you're listening to this right now. And that's my time. Thanks for listening. This has been eighteen cocoa conducted in association with Newell.

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Baron Vaughn

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

1:21:48 hr | 2 years ago

Baron Vaughn

"Hello everyone. Andy Richter here. You are listening to Andy Richter and the three questions or the three Q. If you're in a hurry those questions for those who don't know are where do you come from where you going and what have you learned and we are going to ask those questions not we. I guess I am and you're GONNA listen today. We're going to ask those questions of the very talented very funny comedian actor Baron Vaughn. Yes hello. I'm ready ready to answer. The three cues all right. You knew that that was coming right. Yes okay I call them. Three weeks. Like humans three even like more time-saving yeah you got time is money. You got to save time well. Thank you so much for coming. I'm glad I told you because sometimes people come in here. They don't have any idea what they're what what they're in for. You know it's just podcast okay well. I studied Improv and isn't that what life is yeah yeah but I mean come on. It's a little corny because a lot of times a lot of times life is not yes and it's no but oh yes yes. I mean if life is not no but you are. You're you're in for trouble. Don't people haven't there been a couple of famous books of people who say Yes to everything for a full year. There was like like the the year of Yes that was a very famous book where some woman like said. Yes to everything that anyone asked me to do then. Jim Carey made that movie. Oh right right right right is is the same thing is that yes. Yes yes now but that seems very dangerous. Of course it is my God and especially when people find out now. You can't tell anybody anybody. You're saying yes to everything because then you'll you know you'll be metaphorically changing diapers so the Baron yes. You're a child of the South West. I am. Yes Yeah New Mexico. I was born in a small town in New Mexico. Yes yeah yes and what town is that it's called Portales New Mexico. It is the home of eastern New Mexico University which is where my I mother and father met they were both students there in mu so there there wasn't like a family history of New Mexico this kind of well no there was there was a family history. I I was born in a small town called Portcullis but then after I was born I moved to a smaller town called to come. Kerry where my great grandparents already lived. Oh Wow so I was actually raised raised by my great grandparents. Great grandparents grant my my mother's grandparents until the age of six or seven is your mom young. She was young. She was like nineteen. I know wow so. She was in college at in-moo. I don't think anyone calls it that but I'll call it. That's Nice I like it. They should if they don't go old in move. She's old in-moo do and sounds like an Australian lizard or I want. You know maybe a little bit more Kiwi but we'll get. I think it's time has gone on my Australian. It's gotten better than my English accent. Oh really I'm not gonNA prove it because I'll fuck it up. You know just trust me tackling the you could could say that Australian accent is a bad English accent. It is true. It's a prison style English act one the one that I can. I actually can hear the difference now because I worked in New Zealand for Earth three months. The New Zealand accent is like a is like a gross Australian accent. All through the names was there was a love that you have the scrunching your face because it's not that you know it's not like they say fishing chops like oh chips efficient chops and an I actually there was a radio ad in when I was in Auckland that was like it was for a mattress store and they said Oh you sleeping on a bed bed obeyed bid what way what is that a bad man. That's great. I love the person that goes. It was into the lake. Yeah my my my baby's. Bears might be in sleeping bed because my bed anyway. That's a nice sidetrack so trust in Mu Yeah. Your mom continued in because she was young when she had me. There's a lot of controversy around around my birth. Andy in what way well these are things that I'm still learning about little by little by little we can get real five course became. That's the whole point if we can write off the fucking bat but yes so basically I mean my mom was nineteen right and my father. I think he was like twenty one. I'm like that just a little older other than her. They weren't together in my father's mind what they were in my mother's mode here so what happened was had. They been together for a long time no unclear they were like. I mean she was nineteen so that your mom never told you yes. Yes I mean. I assume assume that maybe even you know she was nineteen. Then maybe she was a sophomore or a freshman in college so she probably wasn't even there that long yeah he was the city eighty albuquerque the Kirk. I like to call it. Captain Kirke Alves album. That's right A. B. Q. and so she became pregnant with me and then and my grandmother was very upset because she was young and she was like you are in college and you need to finish college. My mother was poised to be the first person in my family to finish college. Oh Wow and so this pregnancy kinda came out of nowhere. As far as the rest of the family was concerned. My grandmother was like getting abortion and my great grandparents the one who raised me where like you had sex outside of wedlock. We disown you super cool super cool. What kind of religion is southern Baptists Baptist Southern Baptist pissed and I'm still trying to trace because look this. Is the thing Andy like a lot of this stuff from the past doesn't get talked about a mouse. Oh Wow so we didn't talk about the past so much which I didn't even know we weren't talking about the past how and it's because I am have now learned as an adult having talked to my mother and having met my biological father did not grow up with breath yeah before I was born now. I'm kind of putting all these piecing it together and putting all the different slots in the right slat that that's probably not a good it it works. You know what you mean. You gotTa slop slight so it's kind of like my great grandparents came two two weeks. After I was born. My mother was alone. When I was born literally nobody was there. She stood in an ambulance on the way to the hospital. She had me a friend of hers to be a nurse at the hospital. Her roommate came brought some food stuff and then my great grandparents maybe two weeks later left the casserole and and said peace didn't talk to her for another two years after that which after that. I'm not exactly sure what happened. I don't know if it was the community that they were in. I don't know who said you yeah no. I don't know about this disowning thing. I don't know if that's the right move so they came back to her life or maybe hopefully hopefully just like a modicum. Komo of humanity's you know eked in. That's that's that's what I would assume either. They had some internal shift or somebody around around them. Push them towards it or Jesus told award or Jesus. That's also a possibility they were eating some chips and then one was like hey. This is wrong. You're being a Dick Nick. Oh my God salting Jesus told me Salt and vinegar. Jesus just gave me a message. He said we're being vinegary all right so the the they took me and they raised me until I was probably about six. Oh my mother was able to finish university. Get her get her life back together. I guess you know her grades and had suffered because of the circumstance of museum over how far was to carry from from school. You know it's it's it's unclear to me. I was there a couple of years ago. I made a little documentary called fatherless. I know out there in the in the Airways if anybody wants to watch it but we went to Dallas and I hadn't hadn't been there for ever yeah and then we drove to to carry but New Mexico was so flat time definitely like was this thirty thirty minutes or three hours. I was just tumbleweeds the entire weapon the country Illinois. I and we used to the conception of time in the car there because like like you know the nice restaurants were three towns away but three towns away was forty five minutes to an hour so we used to drive an hour dinner but because like you said there's flat and there's nothing nothing and it was no big deal whereas an hour of La traffic time is five miles traveled barely early five miles an hour of Elliott time my point was that I'm sorry were you close enough that that your mom would see frequently like come on the weekends and stuff you know it's it's gotten spotty those years so. I feel like I mean I remember going to her graduation graduation for college. I remember knew what three or four then I was probably probably six took her. It took her extra. I see she was working. Multiple jobs job working a job in poor tally work in a job in Roswell while she was do end doing college at the same time so it was a lot of things happening she came and got me and and because I feel like I remember being in my grandparents house in her car pulling up in her getting out of the car and walking towards the house and I was in the front looking out the window at her and I I feel like I remember going. Hey that's my mom. Oh Wow oh I know her. That's my mom wow in some sort of way so I recognized her. I felt the connection connection yeah but in a way I didn't really know her that well at that point so then she got me and we lived in to carry for maybe another year year and a half before for we moved to Las Vegas Nevada which is where I spent the majority of my life before I you know went with the college and on that's what took her to Las Vegas well. She had kind of mostly grew up in Las Vegas. Oh which I didn't know this until I was my grandmother was there already mother went to High School in Vegas she would go to high school in Vegas and spent her summers in New Mexico with the grandparents yeah and so she was always kind of going back and forth those different desert's you know being in New Mexico being like this does not hot enough going to vegas. This one's too hot then going back to New Mexico. This one's not never found what was just right in the Goldilocks L. E. Locks of desert living right so my grandmother was already there. We moved there and you know at at the time and I think it was like eight hundred eighty nine maybe vegas. This was for a very long time. The fastest growing city in the United States had a crazy low unemployment rate had a very low cost of living thing if you were I don't know a single mom fresh out of college and you needed a job at a place to live. You could go to Vegas and find something that wasn't going to wasn't going to hurt you. Ask that much so right and my grandmother was there as a support as well so she lived with us for a long time as well. I suppose me my mom and my grandma. And what does your mom do. My mom did she get well. She at I worked in retail at a couple of different light clothing stores and stuff like that. She was very interested in fashion. She also had a business degree so she had like an associate's in business or something like that and then then the Mirage hotel casino opened and that's one of the reasons. There's a low unemployment rate vegas in a hotel opened sows of job like three five thousand jobs like that you know so that hotel opened. She got a job working working there. In the I think in the first the first fleet of hiring she worked in the retail warehouse which is where literally everything that was sold at the Mirage Joshua. Tell had to come in there. I be inventoried. Blah Blah Blah Yak each McAfee and then we moved from one side of Egas we were in North Las Vegas at that time and it was a very long drive to get to the Strip from along so we moved closer to about Vegas was just how big league out big one end of the others like over an hour. Yes exactly and it's bigger than it's ever like. Every time I go back to Vegas stuff. That was just black desert. Yeah has crap happen. It has hotels with rides from when I first went there twenty years ago. When I go now it's unbelievably crowded. Yes unbeliev- everywhere you go is unbelievably crowd and he talked about tourists or locals or combine tourists. I mean I've only I've only been like into the you know the real. We'll living part of Las Vegas a few times when I was there working on different things or go into that really good that really good Thai restaurant Roses Siam you've ever been there. Oh yeah yeah yeah I place fantastic. It's off the Strip. That's a really weird strip mall antic chick strip mall in Vegas. I mean I'll tell you this. I hated growing up. I Bet I bet it's only related yeah. It's a bizarre our plates and now I have children will have one child and another one on the way and -gratulations thank you sir. I mean just about the first one the second one. Let's let when he pays his first bill. I'll take a congrats. We're trying to figure out like do we want to stay in. Los Angeles. Do we want to live somewhere else that we want to and in that conversation conversation comes the you know the the philosophizing about what might be important to us in terms of where we live and that's what made me realize that like. Ooh I did not lie growing in Las Vegas like there's it's too hot first of all yes too hot not enough gross. It's gross because it it shouldn't be there the dead it's it's one hundred twenty degrees in the summer. The only hotter is Phoenix and when I would see that on the news like it's one hundred twenty three in Vegas today twenty five and Phoenix. I'm like why why are we here is what I would yell at the television as a middle schooler. Why are we doing a weakness. Oh Hi mom but it's it's very hot. It's very hard to be outside which as a child you need learn learn to play basketball or football at your friends like I wanted to or whatever the heck you know and just be outside. That's why I became a really good bowler because it's a sport but there's air conditioning sure is yeah you can get a slice of pizza and you get and you don't put anywhere on your own shoes exactly exactly true story. I want to be a professional bowler did you but I also used to things in. A warrior. Princess was well written so you grow up Indy. I understand I understand. My grandmother was a big baller. My family had a boat. We were all bowlers wow and like in middle school I got into it and like it was a point where having a two hundred average I'm good at this and then there's an and in Vegas has a ton of really nice gigantic bowling alley exactly if bowling was in the Olympics then yes. It would be saying lane yeah exactly so that was really the bowling video games because they were indoors. Yeah that's what I kind of gravitated towards but like sometimes I go to when I go to Vegas. My parents live in a different place. Now I'll go to neighborhood that we grew up in and I'll just drive around and be like wow this is really run down now and then I go like wait a minute. It was always rundown on down. This was a kid. I didn't know I was walking these streets. Everything's just concrete and department and so finding like parks works stuff like that nature. These are things that I'm now learning are important to me them legacy with a kid. Yes I want him to be able to run around climb stuff right. You know unlike me when I climbed things. It was stairs to another concrete apartment unit children to when they're little. You just got to run them like a dog base. As you know you gotta take them somewhere where they can just run around otherwise they will not go to see yeah or they just make nuts yes named ugly and they ended up being a little nuts themselves my goodness he's my my son is slapping himself on the face these days to keep himself awake at night. That's insane. Wow how old is he. He's he's nineteen months old and wow he's not he's barely two. He's like slab on his face like whoa fired up just like like he's about to fight club or laying in the ranks to get get into the zone or something. Have you been doing professional wrestling at might be oh. That's how we get them to go down to sleep. I show them all clips wrestlemainia and it just that's what the problem she yeah. Oh thank you for sure no wrestling before bedtime back when it was the WWL right What the heck are we talking about? We are talking about you figuring out where to raise a kid because you hated Vegas. Yeah and that's what I'm realizing housing. Is that like like. What do you think we're what? Are you thinking man. We I mean that's the other thing is my wife and I we can't agree what we think is important. Does your does zero. Is your wife working right now. She just got out of Grad school so she was in Grad school and we when we had our first child studying studying play writing and screenwriting anywhere so artsy fartsy this a theme song to art creativity vity where can football and look at the camera and just kind of shrug flow but if you're so rt you would probably miss the football exactly it'd be like Jay z loops loops paint me dropping it better in this painting. I always catch yes so we have different. Ideas is like you know what kind of climate we want kind of town or you know how the big the size of the population stuff like that. We're we're like what do we want to do and you know. We'll probably hardly not leave Los Angeles. It's just so expensive here as you might know yeah but it's our Irish fine too. You know it's I mean my well. I mean in my life is real weird right now because I'm going through a divorce so we're stuck here for a while but I mean but I mean I wouldn't have. I I'm here as a friend of mine once said about living in Los Angeles. He's like I'm a coal miner. There's coal here. Yeah I mean what are you going to do because there's you know the notion ocean of like well. I mean for me. I work on a daily show. Get you know I work in Burbank. I live in Burbank and Oh my God. It's fantastic. Yes I bet as you get older and get crappier minute the proximity of the points in your life the closer they we are the happier of an old. Fart your they've done a study about that. They said that like that's a big source of happiness is being not that far away from where you work when I when I do like like when I do outside gigs and do stuff like have to drive to Santa Monica and be there at nine. AM which takes three hours it's fucking ridiculous and it's and I just realized that Oh if I got a job over here I am. Oh yeah yeah yeah because I just couldn't do this. Because of the you know the cortisol levels are arrays so frequently shaving time off your life every moment you're sitting there with ways telling you make a left turn across. Ross this six lane highway well Ambi. They didn't update and now you can say no left turns though difficult intersections no. That's the biggest thing about ways is it frustrates me. It's kind of like all right now. I gotTa Cross Venice. What I've always said. Ways is like having a navigator. That's high on cocaine. Turn turn here but I'm in the wrong lane and you know what to throw. Some more shaded ways like I was early adapter ways I drove rove across the country twice with ways yeah up and down to Vancouver Canada from here twice with is huge long trips. I had racked up. The points joints Andy. Yes I was a ways royal. aways pioneer ways royalty the highest echelon of ways ing. Is there like echelon. There's echelons however sometimes they just delete it just deletes itself and then you start over and I'm like all that all those years aw of earning literally nothing yeah but just just the idea that I had been driving too much yeah yeah now. Now it's gone. I gave up on ways when it had me I was I had a doctor's appointment like in Beverly Hills or something and it was shitty traffic and it had me go up into the hills and active venture three Tahoe just go up into the hills and then like get switching like this is so boring for people who don't live known in the hills by dealing with GPS GPS problems if you hit andy up on twitter Geno all we're all in together tag. GP US it just it took me up the hill and down the hill back to venture three times. Oh no I was just like Hello Google maps. Is You have no left's engaged. No I didn't I didn't it just it just I'm just for people who don't live here up in the hills the roads are very scary weird and they just sort of creep up and they're not like distinct lefts rights and when you're following the GPS you can end up very very wrong and then there are people who just drive way too fast. That's true you can fall well Lakers Arkansas. Oh no of this row kidding and ways ways is made it to like. I know people who lived up there in love never having any cars on the street all of a sudden now they live on a major thoroughfare ways driving and a lot of those people are trying to sue as Solano or they sign up for ways and put traffic in their areas so people won't come in well. Let's not a bad way to do it right right where wolves the communist era where wolves ahead what well all right so. I forget what we were talking about. We're talking about with somebody. It's always about you. Ah So what Wendy when you move to Vegas when you were what age I was seven or eight seven or eight yeah and what kind on a kid where you I mean you know you to public school and yes the Public School yeah it was me and my mom and my grandmother and you know I I was in third grade so how old you are third grade because I did a month of third grade in New Mexico before we move right so we moved in the beginning of the school year. The high school was already started which was jarring yeah but going to vegas and then went to IRA j Earl anybody out there inveighs anyway. That's the WHO was the name of the school I went to is it. I don't know how to IRA j earl elementary and then I went to pat diskin moved from one side to the other one job then I went to Kit Carson Sixth Grade Center. I know who kit Carson yes whether and one of the one of the greatest guns of the old west and explorer like crazy you know Gerald is probably just a popular councilman diskin. It's probably the same thing they but they both killed many bears. Probably yes exactly you know big men with hair to get those positions because it's Vegas Mafia okay so yeah and then we were. I was just kind of I was a smart kid could say I was always interested in learning. I've always been interested in learning that doesn't mean necessarily good at school right because I did not like homework either. I didn't like having to prove to the teacher that I heard what they said. Yeah but tension thing issues a little bit yeah you know especially then I was. I was the only child you know so. It was my grandma like I said we had two cats and I was. I was a little Weirdo at school especially. When I was younger when I was younger I was a bully even a really oh yeah because I was. I had a lot of displaced displaced anger. Yeah Yeah didn't know where to put it. So and kids treated me like I was weird already so I just kind of fell into it until I went too far in someone's a a dad called the cops on me and then I was like all right. I am literally done with this because because you know I think about I think about the people I bullied a lot to as as adult. I go like Oh man I was so I was a mean kid but I was confused and afraid and then at some point I went and you know this doesn't do anything. I'm just hurting. Someone's not seen like you too. I mean you know it just doesn't seem in character and of course you say displaced anger that ah that's the explanation right there. I would assume I WANNA feel. A powerful new claims yeah yeah I WANNA feel powerful and in control of way so having having an effect on another child was like made me feel like I was important. Ya where I was somebody which I think is the heart of all bullying. Somebody just wants to feel feel like they matter in some kind of way and I guess I want. The cops were called on me. I was like this is not. This is not the way uh-huh even as a even as a third grader. I'm like there's gotta be a better way. thank. God you had the realization at that age. Yes exactly just because I wasn't on bullied. If that's the irony I was never. I wasn't that physical kids yeah because I was not. I was a slight child. Yes wasn't intimidating. The seems like your brain is your muscle. Yes I was psychologically terrorize to yeah other kids with my existential dilemmas in in riddles that I would throw with them and then we moved. Thank the Lord Reinvent Myself. That's great when I when my mom remarried in between second and third grade her my stepfather adopted me and my brother so that because my mom wanted to have more kids she wanted all the kids to have the same last name and she also wanted the financial stability that my stepfather now call a. my stepfather although he was my legal guardian but how old were you when I was well it was I was eight. Okay you know yeah because it was between between between second third grade okay yeah yeah yeah and so. I was Andy Richter and then when I got adopted in between second and third grade going to new school I became Andy Swanson because that was my stepfather's last name and in such a transparent transparent in retrospect such a transparent attempt at like attempting some sort of control. I decided Andy Swanson didn't sound decorate and my full name Ms Paul Andrew Richter and my mother is always called me by my middle name. Her logic was named after my uncle Paul but I don't really like my uncle Paul so she called me. Andy rate so I've been. Andy betted something. I dislike and your name. I know I know so I've been Andy my whole life and it was very handy when I had problems with bill collectors because anytime anybody called asking for Paul I wasn't there he wasn't there. It was his roommate Glen. I just tomato roommate. Glen and I even got relationships with some of the bill collectors as Glenn. I gave him the message. I'm sorry trying to help you out but anyway I I decided Andy. Swanson didn't sound good so I became Paul Swanson then so for third and fourth grade I was Paul. Swanson Been Andy Richter and then like grandfather died. My grandmother couldn't maintain this big house the big family house that my great grandfather had built yes so my mom and my Stepdad move us all back in there by that time I had a a younger brother and sister who are twins moves back in. I go back to the same school for Fifth Grade and I'm a this is the new kid Paul Swanson and it's it's all these kids are like you're not Paul. You're Andy Fuck it all right andy. So when I became an I mean I was always andy at home but I mean and I'm fine with it but it was just an opportunity for -tunities timmy it just was like it was so much like there was so much change being thrown at me and I'm GonNa. Change my first name I mean I think those is a very jarring ages meal. It's it's very it's you know those kinds of changes on a little kid. Are I think are very formative. You know I think it's I think definitely you know and I think like like just you know the thing that you you know when you said that's my mom come to walk and that that's that's gotta got to be a heavy thing that has you know will now. It's no but I mean it's got. It's got to have it had an effect of some kind of dissociation with yes this primary relationship and then also this kind of idea of I guess I WANNA say like temporarily or yeah something where it's just kind of like we're always moving. You know we're always I'm always with somebody else or something like that. I mean you know when my mom and I moved to Vegas. You know like I said it was my myself my grandmother for a really long time then I had a stepfather Victor improbably seventh or eighth grade in my brain getting fuzzy but he came into the picture and then my little sisters were born when I was heading into high school. I was happy change for you. You got along with them okay. We never really got along now. We kind of like we tolerated each other to this day yeah so it's kind of like my little sisters are thirteen years younger than my brother. Minor nine nine wins nine years younger. Yes so that's like we're very different places in our lives. You know like I was going to college yet when they were starting to make full sentences and you have a full conversation. Oh you're a human being now changing diapers and now you're like here's what I think and I'm like. Oh Wow yeah but I was in the east coast by that point so it's those transitions are always kind of tricky. I guess you could say especially when we my grandmother moved out for a little bit and then Nj move back in so it was like the me. My grandmother got a bunk bed which was super cool. Really Popular Child Hope. You made her sleep. Keep on the topic. Get up there. No she claimed she was like mine. NERD futons the bottom of the futons kind of like it turned into a couch where we could watch TV. Nice we had TV in every room and cable because we didn't want to talk to each other and luckily I got to watch all these movies yeah I guess I was talking about the whole bullying thing I transitioned out of that and then became a kid that became bullied when I moved to the other neighborhood then I was like the weird slight nerdy awkward kid with the chip to that but then also by that time I was really into comedy yeah so I didn't think think that any bully was fly. When kids made fun of me I was like that's not really that like I was like. I was like a Youtube commenter kind of lame. That's not that's not really that her formative eh funny I mean did you use your your your humor as a as a defense intellect so many people deflect bullying absolutely absolutely yeah yes yes and it was like I could make people laugh. Yeah which means that was the way then had the power instead of terrorizing children. I could entertain them. You know make them laugh and that was positive so sort of like and then if I make them laugh then maybe I'll be well like maybe when somebody wants to beat me up somebody else will be like up. Believe him alone right right Larry. You know how that always works sure sure absolutely now because of all that constant chain. Yes I mean you. You've chosen a career. That is not exactly stable now. Do you think I mean. Do you think that that was because it's what you've grown used. I used to because you know I think I think that that kind of constant change. When you're young you can either you can go one way or the other with it and you obviously kind of. Maybe got used to it. You you know yeah I mean. That's a really it's a student observation. I think that's what I'm here for. Welcome back to the studio observations. Just GonNa keep naming in his pocket right. Yeah I mean and that's something I'm actually as an adult. You know especially as a person who is a has a career in trying to maintain it. that question you're talking about is at the heart of where everything. I need to change as far as I'm concerned really because I've been living in sort out of a I don't want to say a manic kind of way but it's always like this chaos in which I'm juggling things and I'm always trying to catch up to it and so the if you will the the stress of the survival that I had in middle school is still embedded. How in how I do things how how you work. It's how I work yeah so it's sort of like Mike. I'm trying to let those things because they don't serve me yeah anymore and they and they're in the way more than anything else where it's just sort of like. Do I need to it. Just fully hate myself for three months to get a new ten minutes. Is that really that useful so those things are like still will. I guess you could say they're Kinda. I'm still kind of morphing that more or trying to sculpt them. How much did becoming a dad effect like impact that I think a lot yeah. I I think a lot because the moment my son was born. Just the thought of it's just not all about me anymore. it was my sister-in-law said now you know who the real baby is. That's a great way of looking at where it's yeah. It's definitely like okay well. I'm officially a grownup yeah so it's like Jake. It's now my job to address a lot of things that you know. I'm still stuck on so that way. I don't just pass it to him. You know like I can hopefully I don't give him all my bad habits. You know in all my all the ideas especially about how I feel about myself that he you know he's he's already pretty confident as far as I could and I'm just like I just gotTa maintain that yeah because I was kind of an inside kid you know how hot it was in Vegas just kind of socially awkward I was more interested in TV and stuff like that and then that was also where I was like refilling the creative well to be able to take material title to school entertain everyone that could have believed in me with yeah yeah so it's Kinda like now I'm like Oh. There's still this stress of being judged or or being what's the word. I'm looking forward kicked out which show Biz does rejection. Yes show Biz makes you feel like there's one hundred hundred people behind you and if you don't do what we say we will just pick. Somebody else. Looks exactly like you and we'll do what we ask so ah that's stressful yeah. That's one of the craziest thing help you create one of the craziest things about show business and I mean because there's a lot I mean there's a tremendously industry fucked up psychology loest people in show business and one thing that I have always noticed is that so many people in show business are are so much more affected by susceptible to being hurt by ruled by rejection they are it's defines like their inability to have a rejection defined so many people so many talented professionals that I know and they go into the fucking doc in rejection business go into the business. That's just rejection after rejection after rejection and not only that the thing that's always struck me like the one that blows my mind. It is awards shows. You got a room full of rejection junkies who now who have now made it to be like joke. He likes to the top of the fucking mountain. They're all wildly successful beyond what they're probably. Their wildest dreams were yes. They still have have to get to a point where out of ten people nine of them feel like shit. nine of them get to be rejected again like it's like a tooth a tooth that they get to push on again. Yeah yeah so weird and so crazy that we just can't it's. It's probably a good thing because if people started if people in show business I started really loving themselves. Everything would suck well. You know I kind of I kind of think that a lot of us are drawn to this because of dealing with rejection or or wanting that validation you know that something happened to us some sort of way where we need validation and can't deal with rejection and then we get into a business that is built around all that stuff so it seems to me that the people who usually do the best are the people who realize these things cannot be is this now this is now untenable to be a rejection junkie and then it'd be in this business so it's almost like we choose a profession that feeds off also those bad feelings kind of it kind of like a monster that feeds it and needs off of it but then there's the other way where you can do some kind of work on yourself yeah to figure out how to deal with that rejection to not let it get to you and usually the people that approach that work rise. Yes continue to rise almost like this profession is like this is the test for you. Now all that stuff that you built when you were young yeah. I'm a let it go. If you were going to survive if you and yeah and if you're going to be good at this and if also you know I mean it's not just it's not just a neurotic attachment to some kind of fucked up dynamic. They'd started when you were young. It's also really fucking fun and it's really a good rate a great rewarding thing to do so there is there is gravy to it but if you get into it and you don't start like learning just from a practical standpoint hating myself is not good job insurance. I the I gotTA walk into every situation being like you should hire me and if you don't it's your loss and I mean and that that can be that's a fake it till so you make it kind of has but it's it's absolutely necessary. Yeah and I think that's advice that works across all professions absolutely as well just just in case. We're getting to inside side listeners. Well no absolutely no. It's I mean it's relationship yes. It's it's work. It's you know it's everything it's it's with your family then when you have to put yourself out there yeah. I mean you don't WanNa be a Dick beyond that Steph EGOMANIAC but that's the hope yeah. Some people think that the all have nothing but confidence. He had nothing to bring to the table now. I know I know upstream of confidence. Yeah you got it. That's that's that's also also the dirty secret of show business's also kind of have to be able to do it. Yes you know and you said you know when you start out and you're doing you know for me. It was Improv and it was like they were some people that were just so hungry and you just kind of had this feeling of like. Oh Sweetie. should work on this better. Just okay yeah but I don't this is the same as me in Boston. It was Kinda like there was a lot of comedians that were hustling hustling hustling all the time to get on shows and then I would see them. It'd be like you never worked in your jokes Yep. 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That's the other thing it's really funny. It's a sign of the entertainment world that people don't often hear about or talk about but they should subscribe to the hilarious world depression wherever you listen to podcasts Talib's new went to the East Coast for College for Finance now. Have you been an artist out your childhood. Well you know I watching watching the TV and being funny at school and all that stuff you know it all comes down to my grandmother taught me to write cursive when I was in kindergarten. Wow so I always could read read very well. I had a reading level above most other students in my class right yeah like I remember being in fifth grade and I had like my vocab words like eleventh grader vocab words or whatever the crap so it meant that I could read off a page very easily yeah in middle school. I would read off the page and some classes and you not start making voices. If it was a character talking and people are like hey you should go to this. You know this performing arts high school here. You should go yourself. You should go to that high school. I had never heard of it and I was like all right. Luckily the librarian at my middle school was the wife of the principle that the Performing Arts High Zion Mrs Jerry and so I went to her and talk to her about it. She kind of gave gave me a book of monologues. I had no idea what that was yeah. Yeah Performing Arts High School in Vegas. Call the Las Vegas Academy which I ended up going to very very unique high school experience because it was performing. It's cool right right so in Las Vegas. Let us let your sure be clear about that a showgirl may we had a showgirl major we also have blackjack twenty one for that four bus now looking there was dance dance dance theater music. You know whether it'd be playing an instrument or singing. It's like a charter school. It's not a private school magnet school magazine. Yes meaning that it was open to anyone to audition that stuff and I watched Hercules legendary journeys of Zina's brother show sure sure then I watched bowling and then I went to addition high school was literally a Saturday. I'm like all right bowling's over to go for this is that's the kind of kid I what's. Let's ended up going to that high school and started getting serious about because I always want to do standup Andy. That's what now no. I wanted to do stand up I wanted to do you know comedy. In that kind of vein I just as a kid did not know that that was something I was supposed to go. You go to open mic or you take an Improv class in like nobody was there to tell me. That yeah sounds like theater people staying things. It's the same yeah so I started pursuing that theater in high school acting in high school and prompted about my junior year. I started getting series about like. Oh acting is something that you can actually train at yes to become good. Does it mean you'll be famous no but doesn't mean you'll work yes sir sir and so. I started applying all these different theater schools in highschool got into Boston University and that's where I ended up going. I wanted to go to depaul which was is in Chicago Chicago Depaul. SMU Else that I apply Roosevelt also in Chicago suny purchase while Chicago Depaul Hall was was Chicago's. An interesting to me. Just like Boston was yeah. I knew I didn't want to go to New York both comedy central and central and once the comedy channel. I was but you know I mean that's like in the early days of the cone and it was Boston and Chicago win with the writers it it was soon yeah is Boston had that stand up boom. You were part of SORTA. Maybe laughter away after way after after slightly younger than Stephen Right. I don't look at look at well. How old are you eight now. Come on thirty eight thirty okay but see you know you're not. I guess that is true because I'm fifty two so that's fourteen years difference so yeah yeah. I made that stand. Bouma sort of with my contemporaries in Boston is a historic comedy town as Chicago Yeah. Maybe there was a part of me. That had a sense about that. I knew that second city was in Chicago and so I was like Oh if I go to school and also knew about the Goodman and the Steppenwolf and always like very interesting amazing theaters where some of the best actors that are out there you know second cities and equity stage. A lot of people don't know this but it's like an equity theater so it's like. I was like like I could maybe go there and I could had studied theater and then I could study Improv that could get into second city and they're all these fantasies about Chicago. It's also more approachable than New Yorker Y- in these other towns. It's more comfortable Chicago's bigger than Boston but I I just knew I didn't want to go to New York right at least night right out of high too much too soon yeah and it just seemed like it was overwhelming. Actually when I was in college in Boston I did go to visit a friend in New York. One summer and I was like it was the first time I went to New York. City and I was like this is ridiculous like I was like. This is a huge place. Yeah and I was so happy that I was like. I couldn't have done this right away. Yeah I lived in New York for almost a decade and but now when I go back I'm like I don't understand how I didn't like. This is overwhelming. This is a little much I'm so yeah went to Boston a child of the desert. I was a child of the desert you know every movie takes place in New York though so I was like maybe went to Boston. University majored majored in theater and acting and you know all these influences as well like they kind of fold into my comedy and my standoff sure so I got like influences out of the theater that most the average stand comedian does not know about or has not incorporated yeah sure into their their jokes yeah if you will now. was there a moment where you I I mean you. SORTA spoke more generally about him about realizing that stand up was what you wanted to do. was there a moment that it happened. Yeah I mean a friend of mine. Shout out to Leo Goodman did went to this place while the Williamstown theatre festival to western Massachusetts Lewis Black who a lot of people don't know has a a master's in play writing from the Yale school drama. Oh Wow you know that used to go to the Williamstown theatre festival and teach stand up comedy course wow because he said that he believes leaves in giving the knowledge to the next generation in front of them. You know like yeah you can read my book but I could also tell it to you sure and so my friend Leo Goodman took his took his seminar and he gave him some knowledge about how to start stand up that when Leo came and told me it just suddenly because it was the first time that anyone had had to give me any practical advice of what to do with came to stand up it just suddenly demystified it to me yeah and then I was like oh I gotta find an open mic and then I found an open Mike in in Boston and started going this is probably about my actually was the summer between my sophomore and juniors with some of two thousand one yeah. I started doing standup and you're that's when I realized that like. Oh like I just loved it. Yeah this is it's so immediate. It's it's me and you and I had all this theater training. So being on stage was easy was easy. Yeah stagefright wasn't a problem. I was just concerned. About what am I saying my saying anything. That's interesting yeah up there or Canadian and that's always been my concern before that I open mic. Did you work a long time on the material. I always asks about standards because I'm always annoyed when somebody he says a standup says the prince told me going up there. It's an open. Mike and I went up in winded. I just feel like that's not true. I mean I had people tell me that but I knew that winging it wasn't gonNA work. I mean when I was young. I used to think that everybody was winging it because nobody church didn't know any better and I was like well. You get so funny that you could just go up there and talk yeah. Everybody will respond these rhythmic way and and then I figured out like Oh no you're right it. Yeah you figure out what you want to say and that was what my friend. Leo got from Lewis Black who has just come funny stories story yeah and I immediately thought of a funny story to tell which is when I accidentally in high school I I had little sisters. They were babies. When I was in high school and one day I came home and edible cereal and milk was in a water bottle in he not regular way from milk to be in the fridge and I was like almost have been like an empty to leader poured into the water bottle to take space according to my cereal aid it. What about my Mary business that was in the morning right came home from school. Whole families literally laughing as I walked in what's going on you. Drink my breast milk you drink. My breast milk is was going on. Couldn't you taste the difference like knows. Cocoa puffs changed it to chocolate breast milk. Ah The kind you get from brown cows. This is one of my favorite my I stand up just shared service so I just went to open mic and ahead a couple ideas loose ideas of what kinds of things I wanted to talk about ahead that story. I had some other observations but I didn't know it was going to be like to be up there yeah. I don't even remember it. Honestly I was like in a trance. I went up there. I was talking people were laughing. I came offstage people hate. It was really like I don't know I don't remember what happened. It's weird how that happens like I always say the first time that I was on Letterman. I I didn't see anything but his nose and mouth. I have no visual recollection of being being on their nose in his mouth. Wow because I just and I would look at the. It's just like you know training relate to the audience but it was as if my eyes didn't work all I could see in a tunnel vision was yeah. It's weird. How nerves do that to you. Yeah there was a mirror right next to me and just kept looking in the mirror. That's I remember seeing myself in the mirror. Look good apparently at some point looked at in Maryland. That's me people have that's me for saying yeah yeah terrible idea to have a fucking Miron right there. Were you doing stand up the most self involved people in the world affecting hair themselves yeah so no and then how soon I mean how long did it take to become that it become a profession for you. Well I mean I was I was I went into my junior and senior year of college and then I moved to New York a little after that fortunately because at the Williamstown theatre festival after graduating graduating. I got cast in the Broadway play. Nice so the first job I had in New York was a Broadway play call hounding crow that had to start Alfre woodard and Anthony Mackie ingenue Ellis Tracy. Tom's some really great actors heady stuff to have happened so quick right right away on and I had I was not prepared now. Look back and I was like wet behind the ears like dripping wet behind the ears didn't really and after that I worked into law firm. I was doing standup then his play happened into ended up to three months and I didn't. I was like Oh what what's next. I guess I go do another Broadway play. Is that how it works. Hey okay let me play like knocking on the door stage play. I eat another player. I can be in this. One started are doing stand up and then started booking commercials doing commercial editions book to Kershaw was able to quit my job and this was still young ish yeah so this is about twenty. I five twenty six yeah that I suddenly had enough money where I was a professional. Yeah quit. My Day job was doing commercials doing doing stand up around the city. Then did commercials for another two three years before I started doing colleges yeah so then I was touring around doing colleges and I'm talking like this is two thousand six to two thousand nine. Ish was my brother my brother. My bread and butter was performing at colleges all around the country country. Does your pretty good Gig. I mean I did some college tour speaking gigs and I think they're certainly better than stand up clubs a lot of time here especially when I was younger but then when I started getting a little older and wanted to talk about my actual life now yeah then it became this these twenty year olds yeah yeah. You haven't paid a bill you know like they haven't dated outside of the context of it. Being University you know so then it started to I started the to relate to them less and they started to me less scientists and then the clubs and in New York or more the old comedy scene became sort of where I started to kind of come up there and then luckily not too long after I stopped doing colleges I started booking shows. TV shows here going back acting work and you're still in New York at this time. I was still in New York Book. The eyelid attested for pilot that I did not get the next year I booked a pilot that did not get picked up uh-huh and then the year after that I book the pilot did get picked up in the night ended up having to move to Canada for a couple of years. What was that it was called fairly legal was a USA say okay show at the time characters were welcome yeah and so they're like you had to go to Vancouver though and and that's when I found out I was depressed I was working but I was very isolated yeah in a city in a country where I knew no one yeah and so it was kind of like Oh? Why do I feel this some. What is this feeling. It was not sadness. It's deeper than that. I wish I knew I wish I had words for this until a friend of Mine Liz winstead. Actually he said I think you're depressed and I was like like like blew my head open where I was like. Oh this is oh this is about you. ooh I get hit and it kind of changed my life and a lot of ways because started trying to address it instead of just be possessed by it and you think it was something that was it was in your life throughout yeah yeah when I I recognize the feeling and then I recognized immediately that this is something had been feeling yeah for here and there for a long long-time which I did not know didn't recognize it's also like there's a racial component to it too because I was like why people don't get depressed. It's not experienced that we have depression or anxiety and then it's time for depression but we're very black people are depressed anxious anybody else or and so but but a lot of it you know it's it's it's it's folded into the experience of races well. That's the thing like you can have anxiety but then you can also be killed by a cop for real yeah so it's kind of like you know. That's something that gives me a lot of things yeah yeah so therapy medication been going to therapy for a couple of years ears yeah do do. I try to do all these different things to kind of you know help with it but then also it's kind of like I don't. I haven't gone on medications. It's you know I haven't had a doctor or psychiatrist or whatever diagnose me with any sort of mood disorders or or or you know things like that so I've never taken a medication it's mostly been like therapy and just trying to put routines and habits in my life that are helpful you know and they as far as I know everything's been working. That's good yeah I mean. I'll tell you honestly they'll. I mean I've been on medication. Shen for decades and you know you walk in and they're like okay. That was my experience really yeah. Yeah I mean because I when I was in Chicago. Doing Improv broke. I answered a classified fight ad for a clinical trial. They were using higher doses of an anti anxiety medication to see how it treated depression. I I went through that and it initially was fantastic. It was almost euphoric sort of relief that I got from this fucking miserable cloud that followed me around around him and then it sort of didn't sorta stop working and when clinical trial was done it was done and and I was back to be in in probably even more miserable from some sort of slingshot effect and I went to see a therapist with sliding scale and described at stat process of this clinical trial and she said she said she said they that's malpractice. She said it just looking at you and talking to you. She said they should've known you shouldn't have had some sort of like experimental thing nation just told you you should get on some fucking medication yeah so and I you know and it just R- within the last few years I was on a medication that just kind of stopped not being effective. It's just like like seepage just and and it was it was slow enough that I just kind of didn't even realize it and then you've got a new shrink and went in and he was like Oh yeah he's like I can just goes and then when I started the new medication he's just like. Oh Yeah Yeah. This is night and day difference because you walked in here and I I was like Oh yeah get back on his much wellbutrin Alan throat. Yeah I mean it. You know it's it's evident when it when it's necessary and yes and for me and I don't have any you know I'll be on the rest of my life. I don't care you know it's like if I had cholesterol all issues. I'd be on fucking lipitor. It's just there's no. There's no weakness in it or anything no absolutely not a speech their own yeah say and how and when you start at therapy yeah. Did you like it I did I did I had gone to some therapy sessions when I was in college but they were very limited he did because it was on the college structure. I think that they're learning how to do therapy. Well it was it was a real therapist. Yeah it was like the the mental health center or whatever the crap we called and I went to and they kind of had this thing where they they win. You off a therapy like you basically can get five free sessions. Sion's yeah to go to therapy and college at least when I was at bu this was this was the policy you get five sessions and then if they see that you are not a danger jour- to yourself or other students than they than they will. We need this time for the kids. Who are the kids. Who are a danger? UK you've got some issues but you're not going to hurt anyone or yourself so piece yeah. He's me onto you and then I didn't go back for a really long time but you know I also that was doing that like up. My Art is my therapy br like put everything on stage. Kinda stuff like that but that that isn't isn't effective. I have a lot of heady conceptual theories about all that stuff that we don't have another eight hours doing well. Okay well. let's get to the second question though where are you going. I mean do you have. I mean you obviously if you talked. I mean you've got another kid on the way that's a big big thing. You know I mean where I'm going indy. No Paul is It's kind of I mean even talking about what we're talking about. In the kind of all it's different like even the mental health stuff just like how I grew up and stuff like that I guess the theme that that arches over all of it is wanting a a place that I belong right wanting a community that I belong wanting wanting to be in a city that I like or family that wasn't dysfunctional or school where I wasn't wasn't getting beat up more or school or wasn't tested on my knowledge of musical theater at all times which is what that's bullying performance in highschool who who wrote Sweeney Todd. Tell me by four three two you suck and then they walkway saw. Oh Damn I missed it. So where I'm going is is is I guess you could say getting myself my own feeling of belonging yeah so even creating a show like the Negroes is an attempt to which is create my own described after what the Negroes for people the NEGROES is my new stand up comedy showcase variety show many many slashes and hyphens on comedy central with Co hosted by open Mike Eagle in which we hosted we kind of unpack a little bit of social theme then we have three comics and an original song by Mike and a guest every single episode that also was a music video so it's just a way to sound the Horn I guess in a way and see who responds create a community it kind of started in a context for yourself and context for myself this yeah good when I was thinking about how I would guess. That was a couple years ago. I was at a low low and It was before I before grace and Franky happened where I issue fantastic. Thank you very much appreciate that. Thank you for watching before I did that like I didn't work for two and a half years ouch and I was going broke and I found out that I had a business manager. That was stealing hashtag tagging. I was have Michael McDonald come in when I when I start talking about stuff. That's a little uncomfortable. Go what little you come down. Mike who okay so I was like strapped for cash and and I would one day. I was like you know what I can turn this around. I I walked down to like a coffee bean down by place turned around came back home and then there was is a a letter on my door my front door which was a summons from Boston University because I was being sued for an outstanding student loan why why and I was like what I don't have any money they sued me. Can he do this and then I had to pay thousand dollars that I didn't have and I literally fell to the floor and I was like this is not gonNA. I'm not GonNa this that was I went to a low low right so then I kinda started thinking about the idea of branding now. I hate this this idea when I first heard when I heard it. I was like shit gross name for something very important. It can be useful. Yes now to go back to this. Lewis Black Lesson listen what he said to my friend one of the things that he taught in the seminar. Is that your comedy character person. You play on stages you but it isn't you yeah now. If you think of all the aspects of your personality slices of a Pie your comedy characters two or three of those slices exaggerated and I started thinking about that in like which parts of myself is it that I wish to share with an audience and so I started thinking of branding as a conduit for that as kind of like well you know I'm a intellectual show wall. You know nerdy. You know depressive black dude. Where's where's the space for me right so I kind of love. That's what new negroes was born out of is kind of thinking of ways to create the spaces that I I wish existed you know for for for me beforehand because even especially within comedy blackness can be its own kind of monolith. You know yes exactly well. You know that's what's what's ironic about it. Sometimes is that like black comedy becomes its own section. Yeah you know Black Li. It's over there with black literature or women's comet and black movies right for the women's comedy mighty next to the gay comedy as opposed to it's all comedy and yeah. Some people are black. Some people are gays and people are women. Some people are all of them. Yes yeah so it's kind of like calm. I guess I just kind of look at look at it for the sense of. I didn't want to adhere if you will to any predetermined box yeah that I'm supposed to fit into which is another thing that show Biz can do yeah. It's like we got some boxes. Which one do you fit in do none none of those Ooh. Well come back when it's a different six bucks so I I wanted to create a place where I can be myself. Every comic can be myself self. I'm not telling them. This is kind of style of comedy. This is the kind of voice of the kind of things you are supposed to talk about. When you come up here everyone is themselves yeah and I just wanted to place where everyone can be themselves including me. That's great and that's what the whole point of the show is. The title is borrowed from a book from the Harlem Renaissance which it was a collection of authors writers thinkers of the time creating a place for them all to be exactly who they are so I kind of taken that very intellectual idea idea insane but what about some jokes and that's always got a big Gog does Dick Jokes in there and my rights but not not literal Dick Jokes. Yeah just the concept conceptual Dick Jokes just random silliness pin fifteen but so yeah that's that's kind of what the whole point of that is is just me thinking of things. I WanNa make for myself. Yeah that I like and that's where I'm going is finally in coming into my own place of Self Comfort Self Confidence Self Awareness Self acceptance. You know having to to to realize to recognize that what I do has worse and that you know as long as I am. You know it's whatever I'm creating is true true to who I am at that time yeah. I can't fail right. You know even if someone doesn't WanNa make I made it yeah no. That's that's kind of where I'm going. Yeah that's great. That's great yeah because it's you know the important thing ultimately especially now that there's not that much money in show business is is to be satisfied is absolutely is to is to. It's a short life. You might as well get the most of it well. If you're not doing stuff that you like yeah. What's the point. What is the point once the point now fatherhood is always a interesting topic to be and I wonder how this notion of a finding you you know a sense of permanence and a sense of place like how becoming a father fits into that. Did it inform it or does this this looking for for permanence inform your job as a father. You know who you are as well. Yes absolutely you know because the thing is that being father kind of has made ed me whether I like it or not see the things that I did not receive yeah having no father myself yeah and so yourself invented. I would imagine yeah and I I guess it's kind of like like we want to talk about what we WANNA move to a place for. There's a yard you know like these are things that I want for my son. You know what I mean like. Everybody is like Oh. Everybody wants their kids to have more than they had yeah but you want it for little baron to why not so. I kind of look at it like you know I get to do. I get to re-experience the sort of away my youth through him. You see the world through a child's eyes as they say which helps me kind of you see what just regular old plain old unfiltered unadulterated joy and happiness looks like yeah yeah and what it feels like and I go like Oh wait league. That's in me yeah. That's what I was originally before. All this other bullshit happened this word. I make more that for your kid yeah. That's a thing tabloid with me. It was always like there was so much I grew up with a lot of sadness and loss. I don't you know when you see happy kids without a care. You think okay yeah. Let's let's keep that up. Let's let's let's keep the bullshitted. It'd bay to actually go out and deal with it absolutely and you know. I mentioned Alfre woodard a little earlier. She gave me a tip on parenting longtime longtime ago even knew I wanted to be apparent where that I'm willing to incorporate which is just about like because I want my child to have joy of course but but at the same time I don't want him to be sheltered. Yeah you know what I mean. I don't want to call him. Hold his hand through everything yeah. Some things are the things that he has to figure out on his own and so oh shit I had asked her because you know there. Is that want to kind of. Sh- I keep saying shelter but you know you wanted to kind of put up some sort of barrier between your child at any negative protection yeah you want to protect them and so I asked her. How does she do that. How does she get around that. She did that with her kids and she said you know. I never lied and my children. She's like I will tell them version of the truth that they can understand it that yes but the thing is that like she's like. I tell them if they asked me this at five and we'll tell them what I think they can understand it five yes because they'll come back at ten and then. I can just build on what I already said. They'll come back fifteen and I'll build on what I said and I was like Oh. That's great so it's kind of like. I don't have to tell them everything but I can be like well. What does that mean. Let you know when you're old so it's kind of like it's not an also. I'm not gonNA do everything perfectly. That's the other thing yeah. China like give give myself permission to mess up because it's going to happen yeah absolutely and I mean your kids young but one of the things because I kind of I'm I said it before in the show like I didn't really have a model for a father. I mean my folks divorce and I was very young and my dad wasn't around a lot so I didn't. I didn't have a father model so I think I just basically was a mother like I just basically I just I do. You know I'm I mother my children. You know not as much as their mother does because I'm not a mother but I do think that like I sure do a lot more cooking and cleaning than a lot of a lot of a lot of man I know well. I grew up with my grandmother and my mother yeah so I saw two. Women do literally everything yeah. That's all the same thing I grew up in a house full of women. There just weren't that many men around you know if yeah so Ma comedians looked up to and like well do. I want to be prior to my son. I don't think so no no no being a father. It's in terms of making mistakes. got one thing that I found very powerful and because I just started doing it out of a sense of it being the right thing to do and it was something that I and I don't have much recollection whatsoever happening but when you fuck up apologize to your children. Oh Yeah tell them I'm sorry sorry I made a mistake and and I'll try not to do that again. You know and the other thing that I think about parenting. That's a huge thing is is you have to have respect for you children as individuals. You can't just you have to have I see so many people parenting their kids without any respect like treating them like they're some kind of animal that their training when I mean from the very earliest age they're autonomous creatures that you gotta give a little room to you know and and let them have their dignity and he's very and my son is very independent sort of a you know we have this babysitter who has children herself and she's very impressed uh-huh him. He's brushing his teeth. Yeah Yeah Yeah he's Berlingske wonderful. I have no idea of them. Just like that and he's like me to know i Mike there so many ways at my two kids are completely different. and they're one is one is responsible in one way and one his like confident in one way that the other one isn't it. Just it just sort of happens yeah. That's what I'm curious about your reaction. Yeah Yeah Yeah well well. We're getting to the end here right. You know we've done a really I mean. We talked about certainly where you come from where you're going. We explicitly talked about that. I think I the thing we talked about. What I learned. Even yeah we certainly did but I mean is there. I mean do you have kind of whether you call it. A mantra or kind of you know words words to live by any kind of is there some sort of idea. I know it simplistic but I mean. It's a fucking podcast what he wants from me. Yeah okay so that play drowning owning crow that I did when I got out of college is a adaptation of a play called the Siegel Anton Manning Peter Francis James aim shot the Peter Francis James. He's on Broadway right now. He's gotTa be listening. He's probably might be we just did it actually visit a play with him in Connecticut last year but he played this role tra- Gordon trigger I guess in our version but it's like he's as old writer and then the woman Nina whose nineteen is fascinated by music famous writer her she asks him. What is this. What is it like being a writer and he is trying to outline a her that it's torture and so when I hear this line it's Peter Francis James Him saying it he's like I see a cloud looks like old man's beard. I have to take note and I see a tree reminds me of a childhood memory. I have to take note. Everything becomes something else yeah. I'm a cannibal consuming my own life and I was like were like as an adult. I got because us as creators COMEDIANS writers. Here's we are constantly taking our lives and putting him through the filter. What bit can I get out of this so the thing that I have learned is is to live my life if I am always thinking about how to turn my life into material that I'm not living my life. You know what I'm saying absolutely. I'm always always putting this as a friend of mine was like Oh. She was saying my mom's turning sixty. I'm taking her to Hawaii. I'm going to get like ten minutes out of it. I'm like no just be with your mom in Hawaii. Why is Hawaii because the more that you live your life when you make the time later to turn it into something since you lived in it fully you'll have more to report right. You have more to draw from so it's kind of like at all times. You can't be making things you have to turn off the faucet every now and then live your damn life as well as you can as honestly as bravely as you can and then when it's time to turn it into jokes turn into a script turn it into a painting then you turn the Faucet on and because you've lived your life because you have put water in the well yeah then you'll be gable to get something out of it and even if you don't fully master that necessarily master witch thing. Matt and Matt mastered in terms of like in where you perfectly separate your lives even if it's still kinda messy just making the effort yes just making the effort effort is is key because you're never gonna get it perfect. No of course not you're always going to be like you know when you're doing like for me like something will happen and I'm I'll be like Oh. That's a fucking tweet. I'll have a moment of like oh come on. Give it a rest but it's like. I'm sorry it's there yeah. That's GonNa be a tweet. Eventually you know absolutely so but it's you know that's why I like drafts yeah but you're only I mean you're always going to create but you have to remember to live to an absolute. That's that's absolutely key. You have to have something to to report if they have something you have to have life that you wanna turn into our and and also to ultimately when you reach the finish line what's going to matter more a joke that you said for three months. You know thirty years ago or the vacation that you took with your kids or the you know how you felt when somebody somebody you love got married. You know I mean. Y- ah you know you got to remember what is actually nourishment and what is just junk food this morning wing. Was it this morning my goodness it. Why don't moral this morning before I came here. my wife is very pregnant. She's going to have a baby in a couple of weeks and our son John was she was laying down and he was pointing at her stomach going baby baby and he felt her stomach and the baby kicked and he was like a- and it was like. Oh wait I was like Oh this is one of the happiest moments of my life right now yeah like just to him like that joy and like him him being like oh the he was happy that someone's coming instead of like who's this book was my shit now. This kid is here as my bottle. GimMe that I'll crawl sort of thing still might happen yeah but in that moment I was like Oh this is pretty amazing. This is mine forever thing. That's at the the end. I'm going to be happy that happens. Yeah will bear and we are. We have you've done a wonderful service filling up time so wonderfully Fli. Thank you so much. This is really great and I it was. It was a real pleasure to get to know you better. Hey yeah that gets you andy. Nice talk all all right well. 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Freestyle with Andy Richter

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Stick around stick around later in the episode to hear a special segment from US and sleep number by bad Annie Wynne potty an listener welcome to get another riveting installment of in bed with Nick and Megan starring Nick offerman featuring Megan mullally featured guest player. That's the highest. I can negotiate this wake. We have the guest and guest stars Mr Andy Richter Hello Hello pod. World Sounds Trumpet. Bring this is a lovely bed. Well thank so the truly. You're in bad. Yeah you're in our bad. Yeah I mean again I should add eds or any any point that you thought like this is a terrible mistake. Invite people into your bed. Not yet not yet. But it's you just got here so we'll see how relaxed I get. How our undressed? I get under the covers. That's always an option. It hasn't happened yet to they. Could you know we can't force that now has to New York? So are we all know each other one wonders? I guess from the Shove Person Show. Well I think the first time I met you would have been when I did. A GUEST. Spot on right will and grace. I played Alec Baldwin's friend that got set up on a date with grace. Yes although I had been on Conan already had you. I couldn't remember did. And what year was that because I may have been gone. It was early early on. It was toward the beginning as before Matt. Nix Mr Ben Ninety eight or nine then I would have been there. I'm sorry hold on one second telling me that you don't remember the order that you met already on the House and I I I actually just the other day the Casino one thing. That's really a wonderful thing. Is that our entire archives. Were made available to us to make available to other people which was which is something. Yeah I mean because it is Kinda like you know one of the best things truly about my work. Life is that I was on a show that was meaningful to young comedy people in the same way that when I was young comedy person there were meaningful chose to me so that's really something that I mean. It's not like not like you know we're saving lives. But it certainly within the realm of my chosen profession it is kind of paying forward in some ways you know just because it is you learn how to be funny by watching other people be funny in how you consider to be the. Kinda Funny WanNa be and maybe you're not saving lives but you are delivering medicine. That's true we they've been letting out these clips. They've been releasing these clips of remotes that we did in one thousand nine hundred ninety four and stuff and and there was one that I wrote on what's called the beauty bus. Which was a bust in the Hamptons? That was basically a SPA. So you get in Manhattan and by the time you get to the Hamptons. You've had a manicure pedicure in your hair set and washed or whatever the hell you do and I. I just tweeted deeply familiar with a manicure dime. I'm I'm self because I'm barefoot right now and I just last night I have a habit of murdering my toenails far too deeply like that. Like I'm afraid that somehow they're gonNA outshine me so I always need to keep them stunted tiny pragmatic Yeah yeah there's less time between trimmings but No I drew tweeted this remote with with just the Gretchen. And it was true no recollection. I had absolutely no recollection of any of that. Obviously spent an entire like Saturday on this bus. Because I did end up in the HAMPTONS. Because I said no recollection and I didn't watch it and then an hour later had time to watch it still no recollection. Wa. Yeah it's just. It's literally thousands of hours of television. I can understand how you went. Remember every guest. But I wasn't naked. Self I remember that sugar something like it. You couldn't ear that. Did you just like apples? And the hand is vaguely. Yeah now it's I That's been a weird foible of my life for many years is have. I actually met this person or are they just famous. Were done and I met. I was at a concert and Alan. Thicke was there and I was talking to Alan. Thicke as if will Alan Thicke is obviously had to have been on the show and then he at you know we're talking for ten minutes very familiarly and he's like so argue guys ever going to get me on. The show was like we were Palo to a certain age. Though whether you're on a nightly talk show or not you start to think that you know everybody think he went to high school with every person and it's A. It's a safe assumption. The other night Chris Parnell was on will and grace and I was there and We stopped to say hello and he specifically had that so strongly because his voice and his face. His whole thing is so ubiquitous. Yeah like it's a voice overs on commercial rates my dreams. Yeah Yeah can't remember if he'd met you and you can remember if you've met him so that's sort of interesting usually one or the other while. I'm pretty sure I know that we have had friendly talking and probably backstage at Saturday night live. Yeah Cell Andy You Andrea if I may ask you a now also have a podcast question. The three questions yeah. I had been team Richter as I like to call him. You're the agents. The managers two lawyers be Fluffer hung they said my manager. Especially you should do podcast. You should do podcasts. And I felt nick and I were talking earlier about our mid Western `ISMS and I have a fear of feeling dilettantish. You're coming across as dilettantish and I thought that. I don't really listen to podcasts or not really my thing like I don't know you know and I also too. I have the very entitled Spoiled Old Person Thing of. I've been on television for a long time so for me. You know the notion of when I when Youtube started becoming something. People were doing things for you too. It's like oh well enjoy that. It's like having a yard sale. Rose as opposed to opening a Nordstrom's and so I was always like well. There's no money in it. Why when I when I toil in this thing for no money and then of course as time goes on like a there is a little bit of money in it and then B. I don't care anymore I just WanNa do things that are fun you know. I mean don't you get to a point and it's like enough you know. Like how much do you need that kind of thing? And and so it is like yeah no I just it is the keeping busy and doing things. And what the main part of it was. When I finally over many months ago decided guess I will do a podcast. I don't interface a lot on the CONAN show with like future plans. I don't like I don't go to meetings because I don't like meanings I hate meetings so I don't ever hear any of the things until they're right upon me which is also a function of my laziness like saying like. I like it to be spontaneous away like no home. Were just tell me about it on the day. Yeah Yeah but when I decided yeah I'll do a podcast like two days later trumpets. Conan's doing a podcast. Everything's so but I decided I mean did it to his company because it's just make sense to kind of do it for team Coco. I know everybody there and I love everybody there and and I just had the idea to you. Know I've been going through a lot of stuff in my life and I just wanted to have meaningful conversations about life and kind of this stuff. I always have been interested the thing about my job. It's most interesting to me. Is the commercial break conversations that I have with people and they're very much about like. Tell me about your kids about human things. Like I don't because I I sat there again for thousands of hours in her promotion of things. It's all you know. It's it's entertainment but also primarily is promotion. What we do you know the at least the interview part and so I just. I like to talk to people and get a sense of who they really are. And and so. That's I came up with the concept of three questions being. Where do you come from where you're going? And what have you learned and just it gives people. It's like those I would get notes at the beginning like we don't feel like you're really specifically addressing the questions and somebody actually give the known of like maybe we could split the show up into twenty minute blocks and you could have the three questions and. I just think that's the dumbest thing not like. And it's like no. We are answering the question. They're just not explicit. Now it's time to answer this. Plus who's grading it like. I don't know it's just you know people have to give notes job you can't you can't continue in show business facilitating projects if you go. I trust the people making the project. I think it's GonNa be Great. Yeah you would. They would go like after a while. You just say okay to all these people's creative choices. Why do we need? You gotTa make up like I have a problem now so but it also it gives. It gives the person coming in the notion of what they're in for. What kind of conversation are going to be in for you know and I and it's the way it's all therapy to I've been I've been in therapy for a million years and it's it's a particular language that I'm very conversant in. I enjoy other people who are too and I don't mean that it's like because it's it's it's it's not like it's a gimmick or it's not like it's I don't know some sort of cultish mannered thing it's just. Can you talk about your feelings in an open accessible way and people that can do that are the most interesting people to me and people can't do that are by in opposition? Not that interesting to me. If you can't deal with your feeling if you can't talk about your feelings in a way that where it's like a unashamedly because we all got them you know and and then be Frankly I I you know. It's it's not a good converse it's not necessarily an interest conversation. Yeah the those are the conversations that really inspire Mir when people start talking about real things is not just about issues. Oh yeah people think Duke has like although I'm less so now I took a break from politics in the last few months just because I'd had enough and I had to win the other things going on but I'm a political person. Might nothing's been happening in politics. So it's a great time out going great honestly. I mean nothing's really happening but how much what am I going to do about it and is happening because you know so I just like I said just Kinda took a break and didn't like take on every single news story that came on because I do there especially comes down elections and I could before the first primary tune back in two days before the first prior John know who I'm voting for anyway so it's like I don't have to pay attention to the prime up until then yeah. This is all scary nonsense. I mean nonsense that it's absurd and doesn't make any sense but there's not a lot I can do about it so but I people want. I want to talk about politics at a party in. It's like no because it's kind of you know like talking about you know it's better for your leg not to be broken you know. We don't need to go on and on about do one of the great twitter account all thank you very much and I mean but you do everything you do comedy and you also get clinical. But I- early I started on social media late and I remember early on. I posted something. And some of these said something mean and I d m jobs like no no. No you're like Oh God fiction no I mean. I can now anticipate if I talk about. You know something that happened at lunch just the fact that I mentioned lunch. I'll get like maybe ought to lay off the food fatso coming because I mentioned I mentioned nourishment. Tanno the partaking of of nourishment you get. I've got I've gotten used to it. I knew have very thick skin about it and I Much less Although it is weird Castillo they're still like some fucking stranger will say one little thing and it'll just like be a crochet hook in my nostril pulling me and I'm like Oh you motherfucker and sometimes I will will address them publicly and then I get people like don't pick on people below you then I'm like. Hey I'm fucking human. Yeah I get pissed like you know the reason that I do twitter's because because I'm a human being and I had things to say and I wanNA share them and like and I do and I think you know I'll think of something funny in the car and I wanNA tell somebody so. This is a great way to just like silly jokes that I if I was somebody who was sitting next to me. I would tell him but I share it and I always like and also you know you Sicily below you. There's no below or above nine. Data's trying to me ness in the sense of like somebody with thirty followers. Says something stupid to me? And I bring that dragged him into the sunlight and then a bunch of people bully them that are supporters making air quotes of mine. So yeah you do have to be aware of the notion of of promoting bullying. But then there's other you know then there's other times where like I. I did a series of tweets once and I was in. I was in a had suffered from depression my entire life. I've been medicated for years and years and years and there was somebody. Somebody re tweeted into my timeline in an like an to contradict this person just somebody tweeted. A depression is a choice and I and just something about it. It was in the morning something about it that day. I said I said a quote tweeted it and said and I said and go fuck yourself a directive and then I dropped my dog because there's an morning drop me daughter for at school and I was still mad enough that I pulled over to the side of the road and did it a threat of tweets about what it's like to really carry depression around with you and like I called it an emotional limp like no matter. No matter how fulfilling my life can be I will get to the end of it having had a lesser experienced on a lot of people. And that's just the way it is you know I suffer from depression to yeah and I you know I. A lot of people took me to task for publicly sort of attacking that person who has a lot less followers and lot less leverage but I explained to them if I had just out of the blue said. Here's what depression is like. It wouldn't have gotten nearly as much attention. Yeah as the fact that there was a little bit of like a smackdown at the top of it that gets is on it and then if you have something useful to say I think it's you know you have to kind of weigh it all out but also to somebody saying depression is a choice. They should have they. Should I think because we're we're all humans saying what we feel? They should get some sense of like the magnitude of the wrongness of. Yeah the weight of the wrongness of what they're saying so sorry if it had been a conversation that's maybe much further down the road if they had said homosexuality is a choice. Then it's like. This is a public forum right. Ed needs correct right. I'm GONNA choose to correct with a firm slap of my hands. Yeah but and and depression is a choice. Kills people bad that attitude kills people And and having done and then being on some podcast talking explicitly about depression is and I'm I'm really loathe to be like. I'm going to because of my position in the public eye. I am going to share what I know and change lives in always seems so grandiose and people have done that in a very grandiose kind of way but I talking frankly about mental health I have had just so many I mean really truly so many personal interactions with people telling me how meaningful that is to them and how an at least six seven eight times somebody saying I never want. I'm going to therapy because I heard you talking about therapy and that's like Jesus I'm a I'm a clown like my job is to be silly and here. I am like making people overcome their bad programming to have a better life. You know it's just it's it's it's kind of like what I WANNA do with. My podcast is like talk about your feelings and especially especially for men you know. I'm not I'm like Dr Phil. I'm not crazy about Dr Phil and not crazy about just about to say I mean you don't want to become doctor. No no no. That's but I don't like that you think that you can go on TV and talk for six minutes and then a guy yells at you and fixes. Things survey like that but he is getting people to talk about their feelings. Sure it is a nugget of the talking cure he sort of the showbiz. Version of what? You're yes there is substantial and it's also a spectacle because like in that you are. You know I think the key to Dr Phil is the smackdown sensing that you are great. Great APP is you're a great dad. Thank you know I come. What is that been like on your life and has that been one of the great joys for your new. Oh absolutely I was A. I was a dad long before I was a dad like I was kind of like and it's funny too 'cause my son's eighteen and his friends call him dad because he's the one he's the one that will be like you smoke too much weed. I'm going to drive or leave your car here or guys. I don't think we should go down there. You know that goes down you know. I don't think we should jump this fence at night. You know they call him dad so he's kind of inherited from me and it's it's kind of partially it's kind of worry and concern but it's also just like I mean for me. My Dad Nece my version of data as as a young person in Chicago during my salad days hanging out with three friends. It's like almost one o'clock in the morning and somebody says let's drop acid and go to the Indiana Dunes and watch the sun rise and I was like Nah. I don't think that's a good idea guys. I mean it's kind of a long drive. You know it's a couple a couple of hours at least I don't know guys I mean I. It got to the point and realise. I'm not going to win this one so my my thing was like all right. We'll drop acid and go to the dunes. But I'm driving like like driving past Gary Indiana and the steel plants and there was like steam coming up from as I'm driving by. It looked like there was like they were purple and head veins like it was some sort of lake alien egg SAC. And I'm driving along just just and then when we got to the dunes to it was super foggy. You couldn't see five feet and I'm I'm just sitting there like I need music. Turn the radio on for about thirty seconds. No music hit music. Heavy the window open window open. No no no windows open. It's too much it's too much too much sensation but you know that and that sort of I've been dead forever and it always was kind of like the job that I knew I was I was set out to do. Come next dad or some offshoot of that Papa Papa Papa you're very you're very paternal to it's Yeah I mean through Kinda through no fault of our own I mean I was brought up that way okay and I and I was the rebellious one in my family. But but there's a sense of okay. Rules are made to be broken. And let's have some fun. Yeah but to a certain extent. You've got common exactly drive a stick right and also there are rules and there's a reason our rules and there's you know morality and there's not just the world is not Truly Your Oyster. All of our oster. And let's you know let's have annoys debate A friend of mine was telling me because I was just over time. I talk about you know things that I do with my kids a lot of cooking a lot of whatever and she told me she said you're more like a mom and a dad and and I thought well yet because my folks divorce from I was four and I didn't really have kind of the classic paternal presence in my life so I do kind of think I am just mom Jim Brothers and sisters. I had an older brother. I have an older brother. Who's three years older than me? And then my mom remarried and she had Twins when I was nine a boy and a girl so my younger brother and sister nine years younger than me. Take care of them a Jew. Yeah Yeah no. I mean when there's twins or you get you you gotta change diapers on a nastya absolute. No I mean a change in diapers feeding kids watching them because twins or of handful when they got to be toddler stage they would Thought it was funny to run an opposite direction at mall or whatever giggling laughing and then hiding the big circular clothes racks. 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I mean not that your relationship is anything less than one hundred percent perfect trauma anger failing conflicts shut up. Lgbt matters grief self esteem in your self esteem is pretty low. I think we can say well. I mean you know self loathing I think is something that occurs to everybody but I mean these are all these are all pretty great things and feel like you know. We know a lot of people besides ourselves. That sort of fall into these categories could use a little help one way or another and even though it's online it's safe and it's private and everything that you talk about is completely confidential. The cool thing is online. You can probably set up appointments to do it at your own time. I mean I don't know if going to do it at like two in the morning but you could do it. Premature on time in your own time So yeah you just do it over the phone. You can do video chat you can taxed. I mean there's all kinds of ways that you can do it so and if you're not you find a counselor and you're not happy with them. You can request a new counselor time you want to. Yeah so look I did look into this a little bit because I'm a little worried about you only because you have to deal with me. Let's face it. You can get ten percent off of your first month with the Discount Code Bed B. E. D. Wow so why not I mean. It is half your podcast. Yeah so it sounds pretty affordable. I mean in general probably rather than hauling myself into some fancy therapy office. I guess I'm GonNa go there. Fill out a questionnaire and see if they can help me. Assess my needs and get mashed with a counselor that I might love. Well you gotta go to better dot com slash bed and you know. That's I really need to do. And I'm sorry that I've been such a handful and that you need to go there but I'm glad there's a resource for you. We're all in this together. Can we talk about been going on in your? Yeah somewhat I mean invade terms. Yeah I'm I'm going through a divorce right now. We were married for twenty five years. And it's it's a big change and it's you know it's very awkward guys. Say I don't WanNa get into too many particulars other than to say like it's awful. It's just awful and but it's you know we're we're learning and we're growing an. I certainly came from a family that had planning divorces. You know because it's fairly new. I think my kids especially worry about. Will we be able to integrate down the road and every Christmas every Thanksgiving? There was like people that had kids. That were divorced. They're getting along being fine. Maybe you know maybe not getting into deep conversations with each other but functioning you know and just it's all you know you're all still a family so but it's been you know it's like being alone is a very is a new thing for me. That's the main thing that I've had to get used to as somebody who? I'm lowest disabled codependent but is certainly other oriented in many many ways Which I think you know like the golden rule is codependent. You know that and it's it's the basis of our civilization you know do unto others as you would have them do unto. You is like Kinda putting other people's needs before your own and there's a beauty to that but there is also can be a pathology to that if you you know you take it to an extreme which I think throughout my life in many ways I have and it is you know it's I mean I don't mean to. I shouldn't I'm not segue from that notion of it being too much in saying it's not a coincidence. I'm a sidekick you know. It's not a coincidence that I'm the guy that goes. Do you need all that attention. Honey go get it. I'll be here. I'll be fine and if you know if you WANNA come back over here and talk. We'll talk you know and I was that way from my earliest Improv. Because there's you know year on an Improv team and there's people that fucking need it that like are trying to get something that they didn't get an and my feeling was always like okay all right. I'll wait back here and then eventually learned like yeah. Oh no I'll wait beck here and then I'll still. Yeah I'll let you go out here and sweat and then I'll come in and like you know. Of course I just that's how it works to push or plot and scheme and strive you don't have to do. Yeah Amy Sedaris was telling me that she was just on my podcast and she was talking about when she was in second city that she said any time there was an all male scene she would just almost like like a bug in her ear had to break and do it. It was like she said when she put a wig on backwards so like would create like this. You know banks way up at the top of her forehead and just come in and interrupt with some nonsense like I gotta go get my bangs trims on the top of her head And that's you know that's you learn that kind of stuff to you learn also to like whether you WANNA call it. Zan or whatever it's like especially in performing the calm is much more satisfying to watch than the storm. Most of the time you know like especially in a comedy group like that and it all depends on ability to say funny things and be funny saying them but yeah I always. I've always kind of not needed too much and was sort of you know and from an early age to. I was kind of a caretaker of adults in my life a bit so and that became a bit of my identity and I- derived like a pleasure from it derived kind of like a a sense of maturity and a and a sense of superiority to like. You know these nervous wrecks over here going fucking nuts and I'm just cool as a cucumber. You know but you do that for a long long time and then you suddenly realize the question of what do I want? I've never had to really deal with that question. Because there's always been people cutting in line ahead of me to say like look if you're GonNa if you're gonNA take a few seconds to pause and think about what you want. Let me tell you what I want for you know and I I in my life has been frequently more than willing to say all right. Take Care of you but let's figure out what you need an and also to like I think for a long time and but also to a certain extent and I will never WANNA lose. What I want is helping you get what you want. You know like that is like that is something that I do again derive meaning Friday neck. Have a lot in common in this department. Because I don't think you know. Nick takes great care of me. I. He's just that kind of person at your that kind of person you enjoy and I feel like I also. I don't feel like you're great at saying what you want or taking the time to. I mean it's not. You're not the first thing it's not your go-to thing in. He's under the bed right now. You can just barely hear his voice who I mean my mom and Dad Andy. Put it very well that making sure not only use my partner but whatever situation wherein especially coming from a farm family. You're brought up with sensibility. Does everybody everything they need. Does you know how many people are coming? How many beers we have. Do we have to deal with that? And it's something that I think is interesting about people telling you that your mom ing may be more than my best friend is Is Happily married and has two teenagers and HE'S A. He's a artist of freelance visual artist and his wife is a film executive And so from the get go. He was the stay at home. The traditional form attritional mom. Yes things have taken the kids to school cooking new a few of those. Yeah you all that and he and it's something that I'm interested in generally is like the breakdown of sort of gender traditional roles because I think historically depending on every single given relationship especially considering. Many relationships are two men or two women. It's just parents how you know what I mean. It's there's there's you're just a good parents whether it means you're cooking or chopping firewood or like hunting Yup wild board feed your and also too. I mean what what makes that? The most important work is that the family is. The cellular is the cellular level of society. That what's wrong with the family is what's wrong with the country and what's wrong with the you know and. I do think that like if if there was if there was some we could wave a magic wand and make people communicate better act a little less selfishly and just create a more happy family. It would be a better. You know hundred percents You know we were talking about something and primary education. I said I've always thought the preschool age. Children should be taught spiritual truths period. That's all they should be taught in mixed in with the Games and toys from from preschool on children should be or even earlier at home. Children should be taught spiritual truths opposite circumvent. A lot of this bullshit. My kids my kids. Both my kids went when and continue to episcopal schools and we're not religious. I'm agnostic but there is an aspect of it like a number one. I want my kids to learn something about religion because they're not gonNA have a good trip to Italy. Go into the museums. Because they're not gonNA know what if he ada is are there you know like it's a cultural touchstone for the Western world? Yeah Yeah and but yeah. In all religions and Episcopal schools are very. They celebrate everything. Basically you know at school did you. Yeah Yeah but the thing that I like mostly about it and I don't know if it was the same in your school. Is it citizenship? These kids really no citizenship. And and that's it's it's really I mean it's got its problems and it is in L. A. School so there's a certain level of phony bullshit that happens but I mean but what I like about. It seems to be a lot less than a lot of other places like there's no VIP seedings at the at the pageant. You know when the kids come out and sing their schools that have Albert ropes at the fuck. You know. Well that's something I think that we an if I'm may flatter US Andrew as well as you but I think we have that in common that living in Los Angeles and being part of this you know I guess. Entertainment Industry is what most people call it There there is a lot there are takes all kinds right now. We're all sort of not Hollywood eighty kinds of people and I don't think we attract those kinds of people just don't you don't? Yeah Yeah I mean I. I probably wouldn't be here if you know what I mean like. I mean you're very much a very down to earth the only on a regular guy and When I said that about everyone there There aren't people below us or above us. I think I was thinking of I thought you were thinking of that thing that everybody does. It's like well. I'm being but you're a celebrity. So you know you. Must People attribute superhuman qualities or give us these powers that we don't possess you were just bumbling idiots like everyone out or make a fuss? I hate it when I travel. I mean the guy that I want some sort of special treatment. Yeah and it's just it makes a reverential quality with which you're treated which is don't do that especially like. I'm doing either if I go to. Ucsb AND DO SHOWS A. I'm always older than everybody when I do. When I do shows there and some of the like younger people I mean I don't. I'm not twenty seven. I don't expect them to be to think that I'm twenty seven but sometimes I do get the feeling that they like are treating me as some sort of like professor emeritus of show business and I just didn't like no this this is I'm you plus time right like this. It's just Just relax relax. It's fine you know okay so I have remember. I'm sure that this will jog your memory my first time on the CONAN show. You said something that has always stuck with me I came out. It was my first talk show. I was a last minute booking because the minute cancelled embrace bed will raise and I happen to be in New York. I was there for some kind of press. I don't know what I was doing but anyhow I ended up on the show and was a huge fan of the show source thrilled and I couldn't believe I thought when when my publicist called tell me I was booked. I said this Scott. I'm sure this is a mistake. So please double check. I want to show up and they're like who are you so I came on Conan was talking about my name and how Irish should as in you said it. He said Megan Mullaly. And we're making jokes off of that and you said Middle Name Potato I. Of course I've always never slugging great the settled. Megan p Pima Loullie beaver Potato all the Irish stuff I also to have a interesting relationship with Irish culture because a they don't get any more Irish than he does and there are. There are times like when I look at his face and it is like that face does not belong in this century faces. Yeah exactly in a bog with cupboard in tweed but also to in Chicago. Irish culture is like it's almost oppressive at a point and Did you did you come from Chicago? I grew up in a town called York Phil which is sixty miles west. And you're kind of Kankakee area right. Aren't you halfway between Manuka is just I know I remember Manuka. Yeah I lived in Chicago played. Football gets Manuka a few times to northwestern than I lived in Chicago for many years into theater. We all have that. Yeah Yeah on the occasion that we would play your villain sports as a much bigger school. Yeah so know. Imagine a team of Nick offerman verses a team of Andy Richter's which is normal sized people versus Herculean Bobbins. There were there was a town. There was a little tiny town called. Norway guess what? A lot of the people were Norwegian and and in fact that was because we were Swedish and we. Would you know what that we well? I mean we're a lots of everything but we chose to celebrate the Swedish stuff because it's a lot less problematic than celebrating the German part. She's look there's a few gangs in the German part mainly Swedish. Yeah we're mostly Swedish. Exactly like fucking trump. You know. He's straight up crowd and he's like I'm Swedish. You know but In Norway to is where we would go to get our Luda Fisk at Christmas time. Do you guys know ludicrous. No I know what it is festival. You're talking cod yet. Lie Cured Cod that you cook all day in a cream sauce out it. Oh it was the most vile shit but in my steph. Grandfather was Pir Swede and hated it but like it's like one of those punishment foods that people have to submit themselves to because of their cultural identity. You know But Norway tiny nothing town kicked everybody's asking and asking basketball because they were all like seven foot tall vikings and So yeah it would you could really. You could tell the difference. The size of the school would relate to the size of the people to did you play in Did you play football? I did yeah. I played baseball. Basketball and football. Football was my best sport. Yeah but it was I forget the classifications. But we were you know Two or three a York Ville was like five. Yeah and so a yard field was small relative. Yeah sure yet compared to the suburbs. I know I want you to champion. I went to Champaign Urbana for two years. Yeah maybe went. Eighty four to eighty six and I started there I knew I wanted to do something creative. But as I'm sure you know coming from Newport like when did you? When did you really believe that you could make a living as an actor coming from Manuka? A huge part of origin story is that the world said. You can't go in like you. Don't go into the arts. People don't do that same. Ihop took a girl friend to an audition at the University of Illinois. And I'm fortuitously medical theater students rose like hang on. What's this and they said? Yeah basically I found out you can get a degree in doing plays and you can go to Chicago and get paid to be in plays and this was such an epiphany and I was like I knew it. I knew you could go into the arts. Yeah Yeah Yeah and so I went plays in school. Sure Yeah But but I you know as a junior at the time in high school when you're supposed to pick your college and be picking your career path and just literally the entire world was like no you can't go into entertainment. That's yeah no one's ever done it. Yeah it's like saying you want to be an astronaut right. Yeah you know Yeah so that was. I came from that to that very same thing and I was even. I wanted to be an actor but I couldn't admit you know I. It seemed far as the midwestern phrase of Tooting Your own horn. It was to to self-aggrandizing so I thought well be a writer because I you know I I was always funny kid and I always had i. I'm good writer. You know just ansars. I'll do writing so high school guidance. Counselor you're where you're going to go to college. What are you gonNA study conversation and I say I want to be a writer because also journalism then now? I don't really journalism I said. More like you know like sorta creative writing race or maybe even for TV shows or movies and he went do journalism. I mean you can do with that stuff on the side and brave soul that I was. I went okay. All do journalism size started at you and I was going to go into their journalism school. Which is a program that they're college. Communication doesn't start until your junior year so I was just GonNa do Liberal Arts and sciences and that's what I did for the first two years and early on into my sophomore year. You Go and you meet a dean at the college. Communications is sort of talk about you know you have to maintain a good GPA. Which I had and sort of talk about what you're in for in the next year and kind of plays into classes and things and I told her what I was interested in. She said you know we're going to train you to be a reporter and I don't really want to be a reporter and and I said I said I really would rather sort of like right fictional things I said or maybe even you know documentary kind of things. I said that or essays but I don't want to be a reporter and she said Oh. We shouldn't be at this school and I was like. Oh should I be in the college of Fine Arts learning creative writer? English learning creative writings. Because normally you should be at U. OF I. She's like if you want to. If you want to write for television and movies you should go to film school and to that point. I'd never I was going to go to four years of College at University of Illinois. And it was like she hit me in the face with a bat. I was just stunned and I walked up less than a minute later. She's right so I went to. I couldn't afford either co so I went to Columbia College in Chicago and went to Film School Columbia College. Which at the time was way. Shittier than it is now. It's really come up. It's really something now. And they have a La Campus. You know they didn't have any kind of like La Chicago pipeline. Although they do they did have some. I think it started when people started to come out here and be successful then it sort of created this kind of pipeline back and forth and you know as you guys were talking not really knowing or being allowed to think that you could have a career in the arts I felt like I could have her in the arts but I was embarrassed to really be aggressive or you know not aggressive. But I still don't WanNa even say the word aggressive because it embarrasses me but I didn't I was When I took an acting class at the beginning of my freshman year dropped out of northwestern and he dropped out of it because I found it profoundly embarrassing. I didn't understand what a theater kid was. And I didn't know how to roll around on the floor and pretend I was something else but I'm wondering you know. Having established that we all had that affliction to one degree or another. If that is something that is is disappearing now because of the Internet and Youtube and everybody grows up on Camera. They're being filmed by their parents. And then once they're old enough to have a phone. They're filming themselves. I wonder if that's even a thing now does every is everybody just like no. I'm going to be a Big Star. So get out of my way even remember you talking about it many years ago one reality. Tv Hit and you suddenly with the Popular entertainment can suddenly go into your house. Passed you to your great aunt. Smoking on the porch and suddenly real humans were revealed in a way that when we were growing up the thing we were battling was like. Oh no no no. That's like that's unattainable but it's also beneath our value systems. Yeah Yeah you don't WanNa go to show Biz was synonymous with working at a strip club. I think hometown yeah and also I mean. I think there's a thing too. It's like it's full of gays and Jews when I flip from a small town like. Aren't there a bunch of queers. I was an altar male. Yes there are. Let them my my my priest at my church when I The Catholic church where I was an altar boy and I read the re the gospel readings so I was like the favored son of Archer. Yeah Yeah And I it came out that it was going to go to theater school and after mass the next Sunday took me aside and said you know I just WanNa make sure you're aware there's a lot of like casual sex and drugs in the world of of with the arts and my eyes lit up and I was like fantastic suspected as much. Yeah Yeah thank you for confirming Tony. Thanks for everything support for inbound with Nick and Magon is brought to you by Man. Scape the best man's below the belt grooming. Oh Man's caped. Have I got a job for you? And His name is sire. Offerman give anything. He's being strangely. Quiet were mysterious. I have not met the tools landscaped. 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There was some APP that she had that she and her friends would make little movies with and she had and this is maybe three years ago. Two three years ago ten eleven. She was her visual. Language was more advanced than my was when I was a junior and in film school like just in terms of the economy of editing. That she would do like there was. There was nothing wasted. Perfect timing every second of every shot was meaningful when you know and and I just it gets I mean. It's a neat talent that she has been also too. I think it's from Osmosis. She's she's been so educated about camera work in how cameras and being on camera. But you don't you know I'm my first professionals. My first professional job in in I was doing the show called realized Brady Bunch. That was that started Chicago in the annoyance. Theater was just for those that don't know Live adults doing live performances of the Brady Bunch is straight as we could and it became a very popular thing Tailed with seventy S. dowager wave. That was happening in the early nineties and But I was out here doing the realized Brady Bunch and I got an audition for A cable movie and it was really good. It was called the positively true adventures of the Texas cheerleader. Murdering mom. You remember that woman that hired bandic kill her rival arrival mom and Holly Hunter was the star of the new and it was directed by Michael Ritchie. Who DIRECTED SMILE? So I I mean I was already wow and I came in and read form and there was a little a little montage of Kosovo. Bridges plays the guy that she is like her ex brother-in-law that she hires to kill and he goes to the police. And apparently this guy did have to go to the police numerous times to get them to believe it and he recorded her so there was a montage of three different sheriff's officers. Here you know saying like all right. We'll keep an eye on this one little scene. I had no idea what the fuck I was doing. A showed up know showed up. I got put into a sheriff's uniform severely scolded to not play with a dummy rubber gun. Okay like if you take it out of the holster. Will you'll get sent home. Okay but I mean if they really don't want me to do that is because I would have had that thing out all day of Rubber Rubber Colt Forty five minutes. Oh boy forget about which I had one right now open at Bedside. I throw it in intruders but I didn't i. My scene was the Susie Koertzen bridges and like and they did their side. I and they go like all right coming around and I'm like what is that like. Oh Oh I see okay now. They're now they're doing my my single would you? I mean and I've been to film school so I knew the concept of you get the wide and then you go in for the close ups but I still was like not fully aware and then film school. We never did like off camera lines or stuff which I will say you hear lots of stories about people talking about how like I just watched anatomy of a murder and George C. Scott. That was one of his first movie. And he said that Jimmy Stewart would do his off camera lines for him. He said one hundred percent every single time and he's he really learned from that and and Beau bridges. He was not of that school. Yeah Yeah I like He like barely tried mumbled so much that I was kind of like and it being my first time I was like. Is that like a sound thing? Like does he not WANNA like gets make sound but just. I think he was annoyed. Who had the you know like sit on set with this fucking kid and and do lines one? That's so what amazing first job though with slow choosy crafts and holly hunter like went to the table. Read and you know. And she was like really. How are you and chatted with me a little bit and then on the day up? We're shooting at some high school in the valley and I went and sat. There was a bunch of Sheriff Department. Extras much guys in sheriff's uniforms and I went and sat at this picnic table outside where they were all kind of hanging out and Holly Hunter was going into the school to do another senior coming out at one or the other and she walked by the table of all of us and she went like hey there you to me which like and then walk and we exchanged a few words and then they walked away. And I look back at all the extras and they're like what I have lines. I have about four lines so yeah eight felt like it felt like I felt like a contest winner at that point. Yeah and then the next thing I did was cabin boy and that was another big learning. Wow learning Legendary yeah and I mean and to work with Chris Elliott Nanna. Bresnik was just just a dream. That was really really fun. And you know a wolf at the time woefully under appreciated movie but really I mean. People Really Love that movie. I mean it was. Maybe not maybe it was more. It was like a cult. Kind of it was. Yeah and it got terrible reviews and we'll I can Chris Elliott told me he's he said like because his humor is very much like you're either inside or you're the one being made fun of like you know like any he said to me select people either. Love me or absolutely hate me. There's not like people that are kind of lukewarm about Chris. Elliott's humor like you have to be in on the smart ass ness of it or or you feel like like what's going on like when you laid it's like hearing people speak of foreign gibberish like it's censored a made up language. What are you saying what are you talking about? I understand it is this about me and frequently. It probably is Chris Elliott and his humor has basically will how was that that was after he'd been on. Lerman O O on up on Letterman sure. Yeah yeah definitely. This was his He had done the show. Get a life So it was way yeah and and then and then they did this movie and Adams who wrote it wasn't gonNA directed in I think like Tim Burton was supposed to direct it and then couldn't so adam ended up directing it When the original show is on Did you what were your feelings about Laremy. Because we've we loved him loved him. Yeah absolutely loved him was a hero. Was like you know. Was there again. Somebody that showed me a way to be funny that I hadn't been seeing you know In a way that could relate to like. Oh that's kind of like the way I like to be funny and it was. The show was really really weird for its time and really odd. Its own thing it was not you know it was. I think for perhaps the first self-aware talk show. That wasn't just sort of you know Gina Lollobrigida being sexy in Johnny Carson. You know who tapping Pencil. It was like no. It's sort of like it. Understood the artificiality of the Environment. I think and Also he's just kind of you know he super funny. He's just super witty. And funny and dry and David Letterman's humor was never about him coming to you. It was about you. He was he was well. All your lifeline or Corden and you but you know David. Letterman wouldn't do that if you are. You know digging yourself a big grave. He would just keep digging and go on his show and I had a period where I was in favour you know and to go on a show and how him laugh at anything he said or be nice to you in a commercial break was such a big deal. Absolutely it really he The first time I was honest on the show the in the commercial break a paid me a really really wonderful compliment about just how how good I was what I did and segment producer. Said he rarely speaks to people in so any did he also said the same thing For Andy Richter controls the universe I went on there to promote that. And he said he was very very complimentary. About what a good show us which is thinking he came on the Conan show because it was rough in the beginning. Lorne Michaels was in favour Lorne michaels. We'd go in and out of favor and Lorne. Michaels originally wanted cone in to run the late night letterman's replacement show and Conan was very firm. I don't want anything to do with it unless you let me host it and I think he eventually you know I think Laura tell you that it was his savvy understanding from Conan's drive and Conan's insistence you know I think But they They were not nice to us. And there was actually. Apparently we were totally aware of this Conan Jeff. Ross did a very good job in the early days of parenting in terms of like you know we were being evicted. And they didn't let the kids know you know like we cut it just. We didn't have the idea but because we were literally being renewed week to week at one point and nobody knew that and there was Friday where there was some day where we were. They said you're done 'cause they were grooming Greg Kinnear apparently Greg Kinnear. Did some tests shows out here. That were just awful and so they fired us. Greg near did a couple of next day to a couple of tests does I mean I think this is a chronology of it. It was awful that they're letting a comeback. I'm like you can keep doing the show. You know and a certain point. Maybe I don't remember exactly where it was. But it's a couple years in Letterman. Came on the show and sat there and said this show is fantastic. This show like and I appreciated this. He said just the amount of comedy that's in this show 'cause we especially in the early days it was we. Would you know like before you would come out? We would have a little one minute bit like whereas now it's like no just talk to the person for another minute. Why are you going to stay up to one o'clock in the morning editing? Something several really elaborate a bit. You did before any guests and sometimes in between guests or at the end of this. Yeah absolutely put comedy all because we were like you know well where young and trying to you know trying to stay afloat and not really knowing what we're doing and also it just excited excited to just throw it all out there you know. Now I mean it's the immediacy of of of that kind of show I mean there's pros and cons to every kind of every kind of show that you can do in television but one of the pros of this is the is the immediacy of it and the fact that especially once you're up and running the the conduit from your brain to the television can be very uninterrupted like after you know you can't you know you learn what you can't do but you also you also can kinda once you get some sort of. They become comfortable with you. You can do whatever you can kind of do whatever you want within reason and when I went back to work for calling for the tonight show. That was one of the things that like. I had missed because I had been here. Developing shows developed. You know you get notes on a script you work on them for a week and then you say okay. We're done they're like Oh you know. I leans in Maui for two weeks so she's not going to read it for two weeks so you just sit and wait and wait and wait and then they eventually you know the swine. Throw your pearls back at you in and it just gets. I was just sick of it. I was just sick of trying to get a show on the air and I was also intensely aware that I had been the star air quotes the number one on the call sheet on three different shows and failures that come in threes and I say failure in a self knowing kind of way because I was the star of three network television shows i. I'm not a failure but but you know it's capitalism. Success is the only thing that really should be remembered you know supposedly so. I kinda was like yeah. I don't know I also had this feeling that like maybe number one on the call. She doesn't where I should be. I can. I'm fine with that. I you know I don't i. I tried doing. Stand up for a while and I quit doing it because I don't like being on stage alone. I just decided I don't like being on stage alone. I don't need this. I don't need 'em especially like the saying the same things that a lot of standup stew of like working on and then doing this half hour and going around doing this half hour over and over and over. Well he's not exactly he had started in. Stand up it might be different but I just got conditioned to well the drug Improv. Basically you know what about having a what about having a partnership that's lasted this long. Yeah with another person. I mean. That just doesn't happen. It doesn't and it's great. I mean it will and we also well. We had a break there in the middle. You know when I kinda because I'd been on the show for seven years in two thousand and I just Kinda felt like I was walking over ground that was covered with my footprints over and over and over and that I wasn't doing anything new Alstom to man I get antsy seventy seven years at that point in my life. I hadn't I I would say the only thing I've done For seven years continuously is be white and male. Like I hadn't I hadn't been married for seven years. I had gone to any school. I lived anyone. You know anyone house or something. It's just it was like seven. Years is a long time so I was just also itchy and I also thought I enjoyed what that time to relative to most of the incredibly talented people. I knew a tremendous amount of success and I want to see if maybe I can expand upon that rather than just sit here and just kind of be like. Oh this is enough. I wanted to see if maybe I could trade it into something else am I also wanted to act. I'm still in this. I Miss Acting. I really miss acting in an on. I am debt that continues to be a struggle for me that continues to be something where. I don't know what I'm going to do about that because I really do miss it and I also to a love working on I love that kind of production. I look I still have a child like wonderment. At the fact that we put all kinds of stuff in a bunch of trucks and we drive out in the middle of nowhere and we blow up a car. You know it just. It's fucking thrilling me. It's like the circus or something and I still get like walking around the studio lot. It's there's always a low level of thrill of just being there of just being there and being around all this stuff about being on a lot especially get over here. It's just like the dream. Factory Years Dream factory musical also. I like music but I don't i. My attention was never long enough to learn how to play. An instrument even noticed that most people who work in comedy can sing musical interest. I had been to Karaoke with comedy people and been like what the fuck. Yeah you could do that. Yeah Yeah You were that night was that was some of the some of the finest my original Mitchell ever heard looking Maya Rudolph for example came to mind She could have had a career. Yeah well she's got it inner genes. Do you know yeah Her mom was a singer. Yeah no I think it's just you know you. Kinda on some people better better at it than others better singers than others but or musicians but yeah I mean it's a there is some kind of overlap and there's also an overlap which I'm sure you guys all know among musicians and comedians. There's like a really wonderful overlap. That happens and it usually here in. La Happens at places like at Largo. Where there's like an I have like. Amy Man is is a is a good friend of mine and her husband. Michael and it's like they're really funny people and amy's really Hilar- a really you know. She's very dry but like she just as free you know I just. I know her because she likes being around Comedians. And you know I I. I get that. That was one that was one of the best things about going to film school and then starting to do. Improv is going to film. School was the first step of like. Oh these are my people like these weirdos like the kid with the black lipstick is just me with black lipstick and and like I have more in common with him than I do with a lot of the people that are supposedly just like me in the town. I grew up. And then when I started Improv that was just a mind blower where it was like. You know like a Dr seuss story. Where all of a sudden everybody had the same mark on their stomach as me you know and And just define that defined your tribe is just that I just I was talking on my podcast about that with somebody like how important that is. And how and just how like profoundly satisfying it is and settling and then you feel like you're on the on the earth for a reason like you were lost. Now you're found you know yeah to find your purpose. Yeah Yeah and also to. It's just fun. It's so much fun like your the way. Your Pre said like the IMPR- just doing Improv Improv. In Chicago going to parties and doing mushrooms are just like you. You know drinking for twenty four straight hours or something with hilariously funny people. There's younger if I was ever fronts some honor dating someone who when I did a bit said you're so weird then I was like okay next or like to do a funny voice. Who's that guy? It's just a funny voice to keep moving interesting now for me because I think maybe maybe you're the same that I'm pointing at near. You can't see that because it's a pay cast But I I went for a really long time being an actor and it's different from working in comedy. I worked on comedies. Because a lot of people who traditionally have done sitcoms maybe not sitcoms that are being cast at this moment to come to our cast years ago. They cast actors to do comedy who they weren't necessarily hilariously funny and they would have could have also been cast in some bad our draft. Yeah and it wasn't until Will and grace and the nick and I met and we started a kind of meaning some. Ucb people going to see be shows people and then scenario thereafter Children's Hospital. Well was that the I know party. Down was seminal party down party doing good spent if you're listening to this and you haven't seen party down. I think it's on Hulu now. You got it. It's just like Adam Scott and lizzy Cohen Kaplan Kaplan Kaplan there. The chemistry of them like they're sort of their their onscreen romance in terms of like the romantic center. Yeah that it's the best that it's ever been Salmon Diane. Forget them it. You know or Jim and Pam Jim and Pam that is like it's just so winning and so charming. I think that happened a little later. Maybe somewhere toward the end of will and grace I him around and then definitely after one grace where we started meaning all these people who really worked in comedy and then started realizing that those were our people. Yes yeah I mean I feel like the For me? It was a big moment when we were living in New York. Doing Young Frankenstein on Broadway astonishingly saw. I saw it in two thousand five times. It was literally thought twenty relief. You Never See Megan. Mullaly perform musical comedy on stage. She has an Ethel Merman machine inside she fires up the the Ten K light. It's crazy I yeah I could imagine. It's unbelievable and you have a beautiful voice to you. Have a beautiful singing. That's something you could do as a standalone thing you know. Yeah yeah no but I mean but I need. I actually consider myself more of a musician than I do. An owner really. Yeah definitely wow yeah nobody knows I mean now you know yes three of us but The PK S. cast audience cows something. It's interesting actually because I had this the theater company in Chicago. Called the defiant theatre and some of these people were is hilarious as anybody. I've ever known so smart and funny but none of us. We wasn't the right time or place. We didn't have the wherewithal to make it happen to a further thing. Yes so the company sort of tapered away I moved on to Los Angeles And Megan to like we talked about how we clung to our sense of individual weirdness in whatever editions. We'd go to be like. I think I'm GonNa wear this weird hat and they're like could you list without the hat it'd be like no. I know you're seeing all these other dudes like the hat is my thing. Yeah Yeah Yeah and around this time of young Frankenstein which was oh seven. Oh eight Sheila's yeah. We were on Broadway for a basically when we were attitude and of US seven. So at the time I've been working you know as a unknown like journeyman actor Mainly in more dramatic stuff our dramas and movies by the heavies in those days. Right if some heavy and and it just occurred to me that you know what? There's a couple of will ferrell movies. There is the basketball movie semi pro. Yes pro and you Are you a referee? No I'm his right hand. Man Railroad there again codependent there. Yeah of course you are. That happened and there was another forget. There's another film that needed like the whole cast was firemen. A couple of things came up where I was like. Why am I not? Surely there's something that can read for. Yeah yeah these movies that are that are auditioning you know. Seventy two male role. Yes yes and and it dawned on me at age thirty seven that I was like. Oh I'm not considered a comedy person. Yeah yeah because they are so specialized and so I called Amy Poehler who had known for years and said Hey I need to go to your UCB theater and like do get on the list of people who are involved in comedy so she said she was like just go do the ass cat. Show where you do monologue. And there's another great show called gravity water that I began doing. And so for me that it was as though I had put up a shingle and the town was like Oh offerman put his shingle. He's his striking out in combat. Yeah Yeah No. I'm fucking actor like a if you come from straight theater. You do the broadest comedy to the craziest Shakespeare and everything in between. Yeah but it took that gesture. Yup and all of a sudden the whole business was like. Oh let's look at you for some comedies. I and then within a year parks and REC started. Yeah and I I had been on. Will and grace but and so people thought of me as being funny and I started thinking to myself as being funny or more funny than was maybe average funny and But it wasn't until the two one grace ended that I did a show. That was completely improvised. Shaw never done Improv. She's scared to do it or sketch. Comedy for that Nar and and I realize I was actually pretty good at it and ever since then every other show done outside of and grace They not only welcome improvisation but they almost expect it. Yeah and if you're not able to do it it's sort of a a problem. Yeah Yeah so That also changed me and it it. It changed the people that I was drawn to. And who are drawn to be and it's it are now. Our whole circle of friends is our entire circle of friends but they're primarily people who come from comedy. Yeah and WANNA life people. It's a very caring and sharing comparison any other branch of the entertainment people. Really you know. It's the people are supportive of other. They'll give you you give somebody a job in your show. They give you a job in their show. It's a lot less competitive and I love that. I do think I do think that there is somewhat of the qualitative difference between People that are in comedy that sort of sketch based Improv based or comedic acting and Silica standups like stand ups or kind of their own capsule. They mixed Kinda well together but they don't but they're not used to playing with others as their bread and butter so I do think that like I do. I HAVE. I have number stand up sitter dear friends and they are every bit as funny as any Improv Person. Every bit as kind warm. But there's also like an I mean it's a cliche about the standup that comes off stage and it's like onstage. It's a party but offstage it's a funeral you know and and that that. Kinda does exist and I think it's that's much less so in in the more collaborative comedy forms you know because they obviously it's like it's amazing that we make living at this. It's ridiculous that we make a living at this and it's that's not like why you didn't start doing it because you wanNA beyond snl or on a Sitcom started because Jesus crisis is fun You know I'm you know it's like somebody. That's good at playing basketball. You WanNa play basketball with people that can really shoot. You know we whatever your life situation you. I think it naturally occurs to you purely organically that Oh something. The general mood could be improved here. Yeah I have this funny feeling. You guys oops. I fell down everyone laughs. You're like oh I know. I know why I was sent here. Yes yes get out. The BANANA PEELS. Yeah. Yeah Well I think it's time satellite too. I know it seems town this very very extra super special episode of in bed with Nick and Megan the beloved number one world. Famous podcast starring. Mr Nick offerman featuring featured guest player Megan Mullaly Gas starring the one and only our dear friend a lovable funny smart and talented. 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Yassir Lester

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

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Yassir Lester

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We have new team, Coco Masks Oh my God well sure we're taking taking every advantage of the Cova crisis by making some team COCO MASKS No idea if they're medically sound as well as a variety of t shirts, phone cases, coffee mugs, and tumblers from podcasts including our summer smarts series I'm sorry this is not the time in America on top of all that we did a special capsule collection with George Lansky and most recently added a new limited edition worlds first assistant collection made for very own sonal session. Hey, stop bitching about quarantine Cova. and Get out there and go to team Coco. Dot Com slash shop to check out our merged get your priorities straight. Hello Internet This is Andy Richter. And you are listening to the three questions and I am very excited to have a friend of Mine I. Think I can call we we're friends, we're friends. We're sort of like more. Online. I know you more but that way everything I guess. Yeah. But also, I'll say that like I mean that's where we definitely like built a rapport yearly but also I'll say that like, yeah, most friendships live in some form of a phone or a computer like we're seeing our friends every day doesn't happen. Yeah. Sorry I cut you off. No, that's no it's OK. Well, it's it's Yasser Lester for. Or? Or who just like I don't know blindly click play and. Maybe don't want my name the little description disabled. People to listen. Listen for me now, they will know I will. I will know it gets me I'll listen. I have I have only so many family lists, family members. Which is why I can't talk about any of them because they all listen. It's a daily. Next podcast I'm doing anonymously so I can really. Feel Shit about everything. So? How are you? Where are you coming from Your House Dog Company Y From Glendale California? I'm in Burbank. I yeah. We moved up here during the pandemic, which was crazy like A. Year doing. We got we were in West Hollywood we got like a one bedroom West Hollywood and then as quarantine hit girlfriend Chelsea Devan says. She was like we need to get a dog and I had been saying for it. She was saying that before all of this and I was laying we don't need a dog and a one bedroom apartment. It's just cruel to the dog. Yeah. Yeah. Quarantine has she's like I got us a dog and I was like Doku. lost. Then our neighborhood started getting wild like I'll say this and I. Don't know if we ebony West Hollywood listeners but like y'all aren't taking this seriously like no one's wearing a mask everyone's having parties and stuff still. So it was already like popping off crazy. Then you know there's protests George Floyd Ahmad Armory and brown a Taylor and. Our neighborhood was kind of like ground zero for like people being we need to set things on fire and rob sneaker stores, which I will say I agree with both like do both the whole. So I do want to sleep now you're from Georgia. Southern. From Marietta. Does Ed area to Georgia Wa. We. Go ahead. You say IT I. I was GONNA. Say We moved a lot Marietta. It's like. Kids who move a lot I feel like have this 'cause like. Miami lived in Cincinnati than like Fresno Oakland we Li- settled, and so it's like Marietta is in my bones like, Mary, it is the place that raised me I see and it's where I'm from quote unquote right? We moved a lot but it's like where you know everything that defines who I have is Barry and In what age were you there from got there when I was like ten okay and left when I was twenty one. So it's technically you know like at this point of actually lived in L. A. Longer than I was in Marietta, but it's like from ten to twenty one are the most important. Isn't that weird though when you figure out like you were, you're away from somewhere along were there. Yeah. I like it where it's like because when I think about it like. I'm from Chicago and then it's like you've lived in Chicago for like rats look in twenty five years thirty years. What are you talking about your show? You know like a person a person born when you left is like twenty five year old yes. Such a crazy thoughts have it i. think about that too. I'm just like Dang like someone born the day I got to La is driving a car right? Can't say yeah. And then it's like you don't think of yourself is like an Angelino, you know what I mean like yeah. It took me years years before it was like I really need to admit to myself that I live in Los. Angeles here's this isn't just an extended trip yeah. But here's a question for you. Do you talk to people not family but do you talk to people from backhoe that are Nyah by not much okay. Awesome like my Georgia people. That's what does ground me in the sense of like, Oh, I guess I am Angelito 'cause it's like I'll be like beyond burgers. They're like, what are you talking about? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like Oh. Yeah. Okay. I get it. Yeah. We don't. We don't have food these Georgia like right right right? Yeah. No, it's the same. It's like With certain food things to that you just get used to hear that people there. You know like and I mean, my my my family, a bunch of Hicks but they up but then but there is stuff that you just like. He know you'll be like Korean food and they're like, what? What is. What is you know like? Yeah. Okay. I'll be like, oh, I could go for some Persian food right now. Yeah. You like who? Yeah no and the people, and also June most of my Chicago people that I still in contact with are are not in Chicago they're here. I mean because it's like I had. Like high school people I rarely speak to there's just been so much passage of time and stuff and and. And I'm from a small town and was. Not a small town person. So a Kinda was like. I was glad to get out of there I. Mean It's a nice place for a nice people, but it just was like stifling. Yeah. So filled up. Yeah. now, your. Your Dad has Palestinian, correct yes. The name Yeah Palestinian. Yeah and you're and you're odd. So that's also your your membership and Hezbollah. That's because of that, right? Yeah. Yeah. Here's the thing is like I you know for the Jewish people listening their birthright is you know they get to go to Israel right roussel and they see all the stuff hook up. Hook, dudes all the things. For a Palestinian as your, your has their dislike your. Doesn't matter where you are. You're in baby. Is it Hezbollah What is I think Hezbollah is Moore's Levin. Oh What do we go? We go with the risks are. Exactly. Come after us because we're ignorant you ever do you ever get like like speaking ignorance double ignorance against you as a Palestinian and black man. Will you know what's? This like or Blouse call anybody sees. Well, here's here's the thing. So in Georgia, because also I wasn't you know my dad left one truly like six hours old. Dot For me. Which think But I got it. Got It well, we'll talk about that later but also. Like. Imprint on you look you know like just kind of. We'll. We'll talk about. Okay. Okay. Yes and no but. So in Georgia like and also just when you're a kid like kids don't see the nuance of it you know. So there's like Black Yasser. Georgia like the black boy. Yeah and then I got the La people who like well, you look like you might be black Deysi of some kind or perhaps are you from? Kurdistan or you know like they had and I was just like look I don't know what you mean by Babas Black Dad according to him is balanced than. I could be wrong if he was. Out Tomorrow he was Brazilian I'd be like. All right. That also makes sense. Knows it doesn't. It doesn't change a God damn thing literally. Except that I'd like are do I eat more plantations like wait if that even the right foods Like. Yeah. I truly have no and to the imprinting of it. It's like so me and my brother and sister all have different fathers and like. For a set of circumstances clearly, like didn't work out with my mom between any of them she shot all up skipping you had and it was like she shot each one of her husband's. Class. A but I'll say that like for me. And like it could be a different experience from my brother, my sister. But for me I, I'm not someone who ever Mrs what they don't have trio like even when I. was like at my. Brokers like homeless sleeping in a car when I was here like a lot of people were like if I get this one job, it'll change everything and it's like I always felt that way. But I also was like look if I don't get whatever this thing is be at a job on TV or a job literally at best buy where I worked. I've always felt like. In this moment and this station in life I am surviving M I. Know but I'm surviving and I do know I can't survive like this. Thing thing nebulous thing doesn't come through I'm okay because I know I can handle this I don't want things to get worse right? You know I don't want have to keep climbing uphill. To be back at zero, but it's like, okay, I know I can be okay. Living like this. Kind of how I felt about it. That also say that are mob truly an and people say this about single moms all the time. Just phenomenal. I mean, like she really you know worked multiple jobs but still like like exit you know especially being in this like pandemic thing it's like you know now it's like we do laundry and we cook and clean and all the things that like you know in this is Sam vary l. a. but it's like all the stuff that's like you know you try to. You know it's like we were ordering food before all this very rarely cooked or like you know you have someone else try and pick up to your laundry or clean the place once a month or whatever. Right? Right and all that stuff is gone and it's like there's just two of us and we're adults in. I am exhausted by truly. And so like I'm like, how did you do? It was just like I was tired constantly she slept maybe four hours, but it's just like to keep you guys alive. That's just what I had to do. You know and like. So. She really was just like US superwoman. And so in that and she was also very much. She's like very much a free spirit of free creative spirit are mom. And because of that I never felt. That I alled in any way because when you're not that she was like do whatever you want like go do drugs and stuff but she was like explorer you know like get out there and like I can't help you financially. But if you WANNA, move to La move to la sound like if you wanna travel go travel again like that those are your choices and when you have someone like that in your life that like. They can't support you with money but they are supported you emotionally you don't ever feel like there's a whole a because you never had it. So you don't know what you're missing. Yeah, and be as just like this is all I ever wanted. Anyway, it's I. The only reason I guess I would have wanted a data that I truly believe that our physiology is set up as med to like grow taller get more hair because we're competing with the physiology of another man of the house. Zach hairless now is that what you're I have hair but like. But like I can't grow a beard. Be Hair, but my little brother granite, we also have different dads but my little brother Isaiah who you also know. Yeah. Just through online suffer whatever because I? Think he was competing with my physiology. Is Taller than May has better muscle structure egg and grow a full beard at like it could just be the genetics of his. I've almost convinced that his body knows to compete with me at like that's where a lot of it came i. think he could have grown up in a convent and he would still be the same height. and. Have the same beard I don't like. I mean I I'm in no room to talk because although I did have an older brother brother that years older but. I didn't I. Didn't my dad left. Or? I shouldn't eat my dad left but I mean he was in my life but Brett, you know twice a year kind of you know Sunday night phone conversations that was right. But I did have an older brother but yeah, I'm I'm like a big fucking baby. You know I'm and I get more hairless like I stab some here on my legs and Now, like I'm in my fifties and it's all like leaving me I looked down I, have motherfuckers at the Goddamn farmers market like just about a month before this all happened I'm standing in line waiting for Papu season. I hear behind me some guy like, do you shave those legs and I think and I think this must be someone I know Goddamn fucking stranger. But he must have known that I like recognize me from. TV Lay this. Be Insult. Yeah and I was just. You know and I said I said now it's called old age. Thanks. Pointed out in front of a bunch of fucking strangers. Dude you know. But. That's my dream a little bit like I. Wish like clearly, let me keep the hair on top of my head like if the hair on my face fell out tomorrow, I would be fought. Eyebrows. I can't be an I one of those guys that eyebrows you can rely on. I mean I. Guess I don't like I'm so sick of shaving. Because it's not enough to be shaving every day, but it's enough that I have to do. In there with you I most I can get. Well, you can even look right now most I can get is kind of like rabbinical student like that's the best beard I can grow and it's still. and. It just looks. You. Know it just it. Sad looking. Like, but I still have to shave it because I can't like do that like you actually can get away with a little more stubble your stubble kind of looks better than I. Don't know whether it's because my butters late on light skin and now it's fucking grey. Let's say this just grows longer it doesn't grow thicker so. What looks cool. Stubble bench just becomes like I don't know it looks like a seven pipe cleaners. Growing out of my face Scott. People will people are there are people there Harry people out there though listening to this since it saying shut the fuck up because I can't imagine like the beard that needs to be shaved by one pm you know like those guys. But. That's also kind like it's stupid but it also is kind of cool. Yeah. To me like I don't know because it's like so the opposite of like. Would rather shave your beard every at one pm or be like a guy like with no eyebrows. Really, I think there's an in between that we can all those are the two choices. Not In in. Age ranking where are you? Are you the oldest or you the? Yes I'm the old years honest and his second yeah I'm thirty six, Isaiah thirty, four or sister Brittany is thirty two. Okay. Yeah. That's a nice even. Sort of. Is Sort of spread there at. My mom like had a baby was like I'm going to wait a year to like see if a guy. Is. Like nice to me. Then like meets a guy gets pregnancies like I don't like him either you know that kind of her five like let my body rest for a year. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like we're all year nine months apart. Yeah. Did You Did did anybody stick around for a while? So I like here's the thing. Is that like kind of I mean like? No one of like. Major importance lie was engaged to a guy whom I was like a freshman in high school but had a ponytail. So it's like a black dude with a ponytail which is like that. Wow Harsh lay Alec Samuel L. Jackson in. Round kind of your like a in. that. Same like Auburn. Color Railway. Wow, dude. It was it was wild like I and I'll say, but also it's like when you grow and you know this was like when you grow up without a dude in the house and then a do shows up. We're going to do the dishes they don't wear not. You're going to do the dishes. I do not have time for this like you missed all of the parts where I would have earned your yeah. You would have earned respect or like any sort of disciplinary right insemination. The work in order. To stay how things are but you don't get to come in here now and like you know for sure you're like hooking up with my mom like I'm going to be like, wow, this guy is cool. I don't know like. I the only reason I even remotely entertained it for as long as we did is exhausted I always hated him. Dope my sister. You know she was young enough that he did like imprint on her you know. But Oh, you're an I but I was just like. Look if he makes her happy than I'll. Been I'll play the game. You know what I'm saying but like an like he loved basketball. So that was a plus you know like me. And my sister, my sister Brittany we love basketball. So it was like that was the major plus. Like gyms we can go to but like, but I was like F- Having a dad means that. These kind of annoying. But once every three weeks takes you to basketball gyms like I don't need one. You know. But it's like you're you're you're a dad though you know what I'm saying like an is that because of your own father, situation? I talked about it on here before with apple and I I think it's honestly I think I just kind of tried to approximate what mom does your l like? But I mean. I'm not even quite sure that there is a gender difference. You're just going to be devoted to take care of kids and I think it mainly comes from growing up in a house. Run by women for the most part 'cause even like when I had a step that add it. It was still a matriarch. You know I was there and you know occasionally would make noise like he was in charge of stuff but it's like now the decisions were not made by him. and I mean and he was if he was a nice man. But. We never really bonded and you know and it ended kind of ugly and he's the father of my brother and sister my half brother and sister younger than me. So you know and I'm and I don't even like it's weird just a half brother and sister 'cause I don't act it's I'm sure it's the same with you I haven't Asked her brother and sister. Yeah. They've just my brother and sister but I just was I. And I you know and this is I know this sounds like so woke and like I'm a big fucking ally or anything, but it's like I really do I just feel like I, see things from a women's perspective a lot more than a lot of men do because that was the perspective that. When I was a kid that was the adults perspective around me and it was like so like I was able to relate to. Keep in the house clean and cooking for people and the emotional support of people. So I just kind of in on. It's like. When I got when I got married and when we had kids I'd never thought of it like that's your job. Kinda. You know or I making the money. So why the hell should I have to worry about cooking? It's like that. It's it's a fifty fifty deal at home like it's like. You got to chip in and scheduling wise obviously. I can't be home all the time. And they were there and it would cause. Tensions and conflict sometimes because of the. The various kind of inequities in time and in in you know like. Me having a job a lot. You know a Lotta Times required kind of a social aspect that right you know was not. My ex wife's. You know she didn't have any ownership of it. So it's Like how come I gotTa do this shit in. So but yeah, I just. Now. Being a dad to me is like always been. It's always been like where I live the most the most you know like the part that I. That I care about and the part that makes the rest of it seemed just stupid. Yeah. No like show business or like being like. You, know what our ratings are on the late night talk show that it just seems like, yeah it's as important as selling insurances to somebody that sells insurance right? What I mean it's like it's it's my job and it's embroidered knee and I, and it's and it is kind of there's also a craft involved like produced television that's in addition to being on television noise. So I also produced television yeah. I you know I got kind of have a holistic view of the whole deal. Yeah but it's like. It's my job. It's not my life and it's not the thing you know what? I mean I kinda you know. I. It took call in a long time to get there I mean the times he told me once 'cause. It was it was early in the cone days and. somebody was doing a story about the whole show and it was kind of like you know like they made it over the Hump like everyone is aggressively against them, and then they're still on the air. And I said something to somebody having room where the article is from. But I said something to the right I said, yeah I said Yeah sometimes I worry that Conan's. Like Focused I hope that he can settle down and have a family and I out 'cause it's. A one. because. When when you're laying in the nursing home bed having met David Hasselhoff fourteen times is not going to go way. Heated read the article. In the, he may still not read anything but like one of his friends quoted that to him and he said to me man that's fucking Cole. He's like that just like chill might like it's like. It's chilling to me I was like well, sorry I worry about. I don't watch and. I don't want you to live on. This is like bubble gum. You can't live on this you know. So. Do you ever want to have kids? It's a very invasive question, but we're talking. I'll say this like. I feel like and again someone who was raised in a single parent household forever long you were. It's Especially for men and I know a and it's not even I do think it's just like A. I am not to be ultra woke. Dude either but like it is such A. Gender. Specific Pressure you know 'cause dudes weather whether they grew up with a dad without a dad whatever you can have kids you cannot whatever you know you're can be Dennis Quaid and advocate twenty year old girlfriend when you're sixty five like yeah, it's just like it's such a different world for us. So, I'll say that. I as of right now, like if if if we have them, we're gonNA adopt I just think news media kids in the world in year all. Yeah. But I also don't. I'm selfish in the sense that like I do want things to you know have certain milestones, my life that I hope to accomplish and like even just getting this dog that we got I'm like this is crazy. You're like inservice of a dog and like I know that like, yes, a child is more rewarding at grows it talks again, steal are all the things that kids can do but like My A. To my original thesis though. I think there's something that comes with being a person. I do specifically in a single parent household in which the father has left that makes you a little more apprehensive to it not that I think I would like runaway or any of that stuff but I do worry that like do I have The skill set to do this thing you know what I mean like it feels like. Dislike for the of argument, it's like a woman's body knows when she has a baby to produce milk to what I'm saying like all all these physiological happened right. The only kind of happens with a man as they say, like you should hold your baby without wearing a shirt. So you like imprint on one. And that truly comes from like the idea that sometimes male animals like eat their young you know. So they needed to like have their hormones it somehow trapped into their brain. Yeah. Yeah. So. Now now, bla-bla-bla. Science Aside Because of fat I'm like do I. You know like this is the real part of the conversation. It's like I don't necessarily know that I have what it takes and like even if I do I'm nervous like the factual feeling. Is What drives me away from it more than drives me to do think like. Cousin like baby cousins and stuff like that. It's like I. Know I know I could do it. I do. Yeah. But like I don't know if I could do it. The thing that makes me anxious it's like what if I can't do twenty, four, seven with Lake something happened I'm like I don't want this life anymore. You know what I'm saying it's like all the things that like. And again, I know I wouldn't do that 'cause it's just like if that were the case I would have gotten rid of this dog which is much easier. or you or you wouldn't have been. Like. When you Chelsea hit a rough spot, you just fuck it on my right but no. You work on yeah. Yeah. So so I think like my Talked about it's like my target as I think is like forty I don't WanNa be old enough that like there's a kid in the house and I'm just like that dad who's just tired like a guy you know and then it's like remember those weird kids growing up just like they'd be six years old. My Dad is sixty four at your own. There's a lot. My kids go to school with a lot of those. It's so crazy. I don't want my kids. You have that I want my kids feel like me in data. I'm writing Dad's back and he's pretending to be a dinosaur whatever. But I also like I know right now for me, it's like you know I, could just show you on the zoom real quick when it's like I'm like still like trying to buy get painting and like. Don and like you know work on things outside of the Hollywood system because it's like I want to film it soon, I'm sure a kid would bring that fulfillment, but I also know that like. As you know as you were just saying so much of your time. is filled with this other stuff work related, right? You're not just at work. There's the mental aspect of it were insisting you're thinking about it constantly, you're worried about things and you have to go to some stupid dinner. You have to talk on the phone to some idiot that like is just going to say no to a thing anyway like there's all these things. And like I just think right now I'm valuable at the time that I have. Just, want that for a little bit longer before like okay. Now now it's you know and I know it's going to be fulfilling and all that. So I the the the long answer, the short answer to that long. You know responses that we we are going to do it. It's just it's just not right now. So maybe yeah. I mean. Well. First of all, how long have you guys been together if I may as shelters three? Yeah. Like Sarah Nine were married for seven years before we had our first child and yeah, and we would. We would refer to art. We would refer and we both did it. It wasn't just one of us. We refer to our life pre children as when we were single like as a couple when. You know like and and and you're you're you know you're right to be. to approach it cautiously because it's it's a huge fucking thing and the thing is if you're gonNA. If you're GONNA, do it do it right? Like you know like So if you're going to have a kid you got. You're not. It's not like a police you can get out of its you're GonNa be there and you should be there because. To me. With the exception of people you know like. In this this this judgmental and I am it's one of the areas of my life where I'm kind of. Strict and and. It's it's a black and white kind of thing. You can't. You can't back out of this deal you got to and it's like an it's and once the kids there it is. It's only about you secondarily, like you plant you can't go Kay this for me. Unless you know. Unless you're GONNA, make the kids like worse by being around. Let you know like, right. But. It is kind of the you know in terms of like. You know like you said like. What a thought that occurred to me when you're when you're saying how your mom just said, I was tired all the time. You there is something like in this in this pandemic like I don't I don't get you don like I did when I was working because there's just because there's no, there's no vessel holding everything that creates like kind of attention that you got to get it done where. The House is a massive thousand messed on just my kids are going to see it who cares. But when it's you know when you're like in life, you've got to get things done and when you have kids yet you're tired all the time but you have an incentive for doing things you don't really have. You know you don't get a choice in the matter like gotta get things done and I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing. I. Don't think that. We have that we have a really easy life compared to the rest of human history right? Like nobody nobody could fuck and kick back except for like five minutes ago we start right knee like in heated houses and running water or oil. Let's you know prior to that. It's like you gotTA. fucking work work work work work yeah and. We don't have to do that so much anymore but you know and the way that you do too because I was worried about it. I don't know how to be a dad. It's like. Just. Just. Be You know loving? Loving respectful. It's all the same that you do with other people. Loving respectful. but with a kid, you got, you know you got to set boundaries with the kid you gotta you gotTa. Let him know you're in charge because a kid does not want to be. Without someone in charge, that's what you know. That's what Fox kids up so Well? LET'S GET BACK TO MARIETTA Kind of. Popular, kid, where you were a kid, i. Mad At so. I don't know. 'cause perspective is everything, right? So prospection is everything. I. Would absolutely say that like I wouldn't say I was a door but I'd I you know like I think I was much more of a like take-it-or-leave-it kind of kids you know like. I don't care but you mean like, take take you or leave angry at this is. Like in terms of just like I don't like I don't have an opinion about him one way or the other is how I think I was perceived. But. Then it's like and. How about this because it's a little hard to. As a little hard to define but. I I can't tell how much of it is real or not anymore because I've had. You know a a very be airy moderates. Amounts of success right like. By. No means am I like a star but like. Two people back home. It's like, oh, he's been on TV like that means something you know they may. Does you're you're making a living at this and yeah, and that already that puts you in like a tiny percent. Now it's crazy to think about but. Now, it's like if I even just like online like something happened where it's like. You. Know an interview comes out or an article comes out or whatever it is right a press release like the podcast, a podcast And but but truly, it's like I like the fact that I am talking to you means something and it will mean even more to someone back home where they're like I listened to Andy Richter's podcast I had no idea you were in L. A. or Blah. Blah. Blah you know what I'm saying and yeah, and then they'll say something like I always thought you were so funny you're so weird or whatever, and I'm like that's. I. Do I. Do not remember any of you speaking to me with any sort of like. That's a funny guy. You know what I mean like I don't. But that's the problem is like, did I am I miss remembering high school because I'll say this I hated high school as a concept as as a reality I I. Truly. You could ask my mom like for a year was just like can I drop out? Can drop out please drop out by out this and she was like, what are you GonNa do is like I'll just work at McDonald's I'll just keep working at McDonald's and figure figured out she's like you not dropping out not no I didn't know that you could legally drop out at sixteen and no one could tell you anything I hated it. I hated every single minute of it. I hated like I hated this idea that like You again, it's like a very pretentious la thing, but it's like I get like the Montessori of it all it's like I? Kinda just like if I want like when I have kids, it's like I want them to like essentially walk onto like an artist's studio with like a piano easel. Wrong Scott. But then also math books and like a chalkboard for a quesions and like it's like do all of it and then figure out the thing that you like the most. A Computer Code and like I think had education like that for me I would have had so much of a better time but it's like the. What's the term for rigidity? I don't know. I just hated it. So I'm like, am I painting my experience with that brush or is that the objective reality of it? Truthfully, it probably lies in the middle somewhere truth-ler hold. It's like it is because I got a little bit of you know we'll say cultural cachet that people are a little bit today, right? But at the time like I- Marietta and like I like have it you know you can see it on the hat says Cobb, County Roswell Road, which is where I grew up It was very much split where I grew up by that road like it was all and it wasn't completely segregated, but it was pretty close. It's black people live on one side or Roswell road and white people live on the other side we lived with the black people ninety, nine percent of the time unless my mom would find like a cheap house for rent and then we'd only lived there for like a year then we couldn't afford it anymore. But like But then my mom was like, well, you guys you know like. I'm sending us with the the white high school. That's worth. Education comes Huelva. Blah, which you know is half true. But it's also like if we all send our to everywhere, everyone would eventually have to level out there playing. Yeah. You know it's hard to as a parent it's hard to. It's hard. It's it's hard for your mom to be. The heretical about that. Of course. You. Only. Got One shot at school so and I and I definitely agree with you. It's like, yeah no you you know. Until we all start act into will. Start. Following the rules that we know are going to make life better, it's not going to get any better but then there's like then you got a kid that needs to be educated or. Wanted and it's it's a natural thing to want the best for. And that's the thing is. Never. A blame. The only bummer is that I worked at McDonalds like I was saying. So I would like have to get on a bus or my momma driving to McDonalds at like five, forty, five, six in the morning I would like work a shift home. School then like walk down to a neighborhood pretended that I lived in that neighborhood it's like they'd get on the bus and lake then go to high school then walk back to that McDonalds a shift after work or after school year then go and it's like all of this like you know being the quote unquote nicer part of town you know so like that's the other. You know paintbrush. That is you know coloring this experience for me but I was saying that say to get to the original point of what Marietta was like for me I will say that like. I think I always fancied myself like A. Cool big city person like. But I, always tried to be like funny and like I mean like truly if I wasn't doing comedy and some sort, I would just be a comic book artist like got like you know I got I was going to Savannah College of art and design got I was there for three days was like I'm out like you know I really like it. Yeah. College like I was like I hated high school and now I'm going to college which was an art school. So I figured I would like it more I was like, oh no, I just. I think I'm an ego maniac in the sense that I think I can learn anything on my own and ninety nine percent of the time it has paid off for me. So I'd rather just do that and. So but then I also been went back to Marietta so I also experienced some of Marietta ask like an adult and like. I. Do there's parts of it that I miss I miss her the simplicity of like I used to work at a used bookstore and I was also a server at this restaurant and it's like I would wake up at like you know nine thirty. I'll go work at the Ymca because that was the gym you use a yeah. I would then go to I don't know. Yes. Definitely. Didn't have them Chicago if you ever had it before, but there's a grocery store chain called Publix in yeah. Yeah. They're very famous for their subs I will get a chicken tender sub with a half like a quarter of orange juice and some watermelon I would eat that. Bad, I. Would Go Work Shift at the bookstore that I would work server shift tonight that. At some point during the week I would take a little bit of dough and go by like a criterion collection DVD for a borders you know, and I'd watch like Fellini's eight and a half. It'd be like the most interesting person you know all okay I. Think I get it. You know. Yeah and then I would talk about that at the bookstore the next day where I work those kind of my life and like I missed that part of it for sure. Yeah. It's such an anxiety free life in knowing what the routine is and like. The. Like when's the next job? Do I look good do I you know what? I'm saying like all the stuff that? You can if you yeah but if you can like. Know set your boundaries as that without any sort of like aiming beyond that then. Yeah, it's. Like I when I worked for the moving company. They were just. Like I could just tell they were days when I take the bus home like just sweating and dirty specially like sometimes because we do night moves for rob for Bob SEGER albums. No for. For like office jobs like. Opposite night just. As. The next day. Yeah. So there'd be times when I would have worked thirteen hours and I'm going home on the bus at like ten am and just feeling like. It's behind me like that all the like distress stress of it the work of it it's all behind me. I. Don't have to take any of this home. You know like it's just it's simple. It's just it's done whereas now it is like yeah work. Work is it's like you're never really off the clock if you're supposed to be a creative person that's constantly coming up with new ways to. Make money to her yeah people. Make the set the world on fire with your incredible ideas? Yeah. Yeah no I under I understand that. But I just. I think it will you tell to you know like the problem that I would have with that although now I'm older now but like it was just it was too there are two. Welcome. To White, it was two straight. It was to like religious it was Republican. These things that you know I needed you know I you know. I WanNa life with you know. Black people and gay people and Jewish people and you know fucking Weirdos and I all kinds of different people in it and just kind in a small town. You SORTA get what you get and they said Oh. Yeah. Absolutely. I'll say this all that is true. I think that. It's hard to say because like I think that while those things existed there, of course, they were very minimal but I always managed to find like like at that used bookstore I worked at like I always managed to find the Weirdo. I always found the thugs I always found the gay people a guy always managed to. So even though I wasn't a small town I always there was. I've always managed to find enough that I didn't feel like I was going crazy. The reason I moved was those like there's just no industry here and kept trying to in Atlanta. There's this thing. There's this mentality that anything you WANNA. Do you can make happen in Atlanta and I was like I don't WanNa be that person I don't want to be the person who's like Just here and his either trying, and it never happens or that just like I never left you I have to. I do have to experience the world and like to be honest I don't love travelling. At this at the very least I can do this like you know I gave myself a plan. Like we'll see if it works and like you know, did it work on my timeline? No, but it did work eventually. Was it all always stand up was always kind of like you thought I WANNA be a stand up comedian or all like it was a wake I. It's yes. But also like things dipped out of being a standup, right like 'cause I fourteen thirteen or fourteen like I'm going to be a standup comic, and then like somehow convince when I was fifteen I bet Isaiah. Fifty bucks that could make it onto snl by the time I was eighteen and he was like you literally have done nothing like never. Said anything. Funny publicly ever late. What are you talking? You've never done a Ross Perot imitation ally and I was like fifty bucks and he was like you know when you're fifteen and in a small town as a million dollars yes. Yes. So I bet him that and that also that I could like if I met Lindsay Lohan she would wanna Hook up with me and this is pre all her other stuff. Now actually should've taken that for real 'cause I probably could have made that part of it but like But. Eric it's. Great. If. It's fifty bucks I mean again, this bet was made it to the one, thousand, nine, hundred, nine. A. Buddy as like mid thirties guys being like here's your fifty bucks. But. To say that to stand up always like I love like I watched dude like the Chris Rock late night show that used to be on HBO that. So that his specials like bring the pain bigger and blacker like changed my life Wanda, Sykes Patrice, O'Neal nick, sports, and God what's his name Pablo Francisco Maria Bamford all had these like so and Dion Cole these like insane comedy central presents specials, and then like Tosh Daniel Tosh is was so good and like then it's like you know. Shy saw Chapelle Fowler on HBO and Bill Burgers and like you know you start like seeing all the they want us I. Think I did did second yeah. I just like I. Literally I worship erred away that lack just. Let's say that like I started seeing all these like A. 'cause Chris Rock at the time and I mean he's still gigantic and legend. But like he was the guy was like I was quote unquote like experimenting with people like even though they were on tv but it was like when I would talk about Patrice no one knew who talking about Daniel Tosh or Maria Bamford. She was just like even like an people cloud him now like cook at such a funny half hour comedy central presents like I I I like taped it and made everyone I knew watched it like it was so funny to me and Swertz and was, and it was like these are things I would have. Just come across on my I mean I did come across them on my own but like had I stayed in Atlanta. It just wasn't that kind of play. You know what I mean like it was like it was like blue collar comedy tour and like you know you had to like even like Cat Williams I remember the first time I saw cat. Williams I was just like crying goes like this little black maniac like around and like a full half him soup. But then also like jeans like it was so good I remember the first time I was like, what am I watching I, don't even think I got and like the second time I saw him I was like crying like this dudes insane. And that's a level like that. Is Hard to maintain and I think. has shown like, yeah, that that. That's not just an act like you're living. Wow Yeah. Yeah and so funny and like Oh unlike Cheryl Underwood the first time I saw her and like some Orrin like. I say it's like I just. It made me realize that I could do it in a sense. I think so many people. Take stand up the wrong way because it's so because it's so. Conversational an extent and like if you're good, no one knows you're good. You know what I'm saying it's just that you're. So you seem so natural that people are like this person's just thinking of this and they're saying it he had people go like I've kind of interesting I can do that. Whereas I took it as here's a wide range of people. Doing the exact same thing. And like they're all different and I like all of them, which means that like someone is weird is may who has so many different tastes can also do it. So that's kind of like informed me. And then like from there. Is Only. Do I'M GONNA do stand up and then This is literally crazy. So like than I started not to be a, you know a loser, but like I can't really act. So what would I do I was like I definitely know I want to create my own TV show does like writing Sitcom ideas like writing little scripts like Microsoft word that didn't even look like I don't know if you've ever seen with a script for a commercial looks like, but it looks like that like I didn't even know. Yeah. Yeah, and then I had to buy like field screenplay just to learn and I only knew that because to pock had talked about it in an interview. So like so even then like my way into that was different. But then, I. was like, Oh, I think like I think like the best thing that can beating can do is be a late night host like it's probably the closest to what you do. So I became obsessed with late night with Conan O'Brien. So I watched that like I like again, obsessively and was just like baby all do that and then I came back just like, no, like that started to like it just felt like I couldn't do it. So it was like the dream is to like maybe head rates. A late night show have your own show on the air like a Sitcom that you're not ed, and then you're like a touring comic. So that's what I came out here for like at my house like Bhai Dream is like get on a late night show as a writer. Then, use that to create the TV show, but be doing stand up the whole time. Yeah, and so I immediately started working at a sandwich shop. Yes. Need some mayonnaise. Really. Yeah but that makes it the answer to your question. It's like, yes, I came out here for stand up to create a TV show as that like other things happened clear This is all like when you're in high school all this is what you're explained as like the of what I WanNa? Do. Yeah. The only people that I even mentioned it to were my brother and my mom and my sister ideas anyone else until like we're Li like my homeys and all saw them out right now mark reese and Eugene Crop. We were like a again like the high school went to a very white. They were like some of the only black there with me and they were like, bro You Fani like you should try and do something with it and I don't know I don't know because I was just like to talk about. Yeah and then like as started doing stuff out here like they like because we like reconnected, we kind of got lost reconnected. They were like we knew we knew you were GONNA do it. So like now like anytime do you saying they like it the up like we told you which is like it's like such a nice full circle moment you know. Yeah. because. They're taking ownership for your work. Well, I've actually I. It's like. Well I know but I. Don't mind it with them because they actually did. Yeah except me like you should pursue this. You know whether they knew I want it to or not like they have the foresight to be like why you have a believed in you more yeah. Didn't yourself? Did you do anything in Atlanta. Did you try at all or oh, the only thing I try and it's like I'll try to tell you the short version but I was nineteen I snuck into a comedy or not snuck I signed up for an open Mike at a comedy club called the Funny Farm Chat was side of a Mario Andretti go kart racing. Track Awesome. So everyone there course like done at least three times and like I was new I. Said, that was twenty, one nineteen, which means I looked sixteen the time and everyone has like these acts where they were like you know like my wife or my kids are like it's hard being a southerner whatever. And Mine was like I was like Albany like give them that like raw like they've never seen before so i. The everyone and here's the thing is like that's the other thing I'll tell anyone listening is thinking about doing stand up comedy whatever jokes you've written just know someone's already done them and if you haven't heard them because they're not working. So, like my whole set, which is like you know there's you know there's residue cocaine on every dollar bill. So I avid snort hundred store one dollar bills all day and people are like why unlike? Joke again being nineteen years old being like I don't. WanNa turn forty because I don't want by prostate checked and then like. A whole act data getting my prostate check people like why is this kid? Literally. Talk about something that's not GonNa Happen for thirty five. Years. And also it sounds like this guy wants them but play he's protesting Birdie. Lol. That's the thing. Is there like the turn of the joke of course? It's just like Oh wait that do feel good you know or whatever. Sub version of that. So. So then this dude comes up to me afterwards this dislike. Here's the thing. It was probably Tony Woods but like not actually have but he had like the Tony Woods spirit and he was like. You were terrible. They pay you he's like. You got nothing to say oh Yeah Yeah I know it's my first time. He's like. What you need is to be talking about real stuff. Watch what I do like. All right. So the stage is set up to look like a living room. So there's literally like a couch, a nightstand, a lamp like a halogen lamp and then like plants. Gets on stage and he's like, what's up? Atlanta what's up what's up? It's an open mic. So one person's like. All right. then. He's like look at this cows and that's an old couch ain't nobody sitting on that couch and his nightstand was gonna put on that all night stand. There's nothing to put on that nightstand this lamp medicine Ole Lamm? WHO's even using that lamp and he just named every single thing on the stage said it was old then tried to like riff on what what it was or was not doing theater and he did that for five minutes and then he gets off stays and he's like. But see how comfortable I was and I was like. That doesn't. UNFUNNY. Talking about. My problem wasn't. Yeah but you see I didn't by yeah. Yeah. Crazy and then so keep him on everyone who pay five dollars and whoever won the open Mike. Got The pot. Oh. Wow. So did this this? She's again she's probably famous now and I just don't remember who it was just black girl got up after us at her opening joke was I just heard this a shot he song called baby baby and I'd like Damn Bitch. How many kids you got? Crowd goes wild they like call it. They're they're like she was. Like. Hold up a buddy like, oh yeah. So again, like I remember I told you earlier I was like Egomaniac like I just assumed that I can just learned anything. Of a Mike ends and I'm just like these Hicks Black White Hicks just don't get how created by Arab. I'M NOT DOING STAND UP AGAINST GETS LA. So. I. The natural thing would be keep trying I was like Nah the city didn't get me so that moved across the country to bomb of years later right years later. Until I was twenty three while. Also got here. I was just like, Oh, I need to were Klay chat nothing you know so. So I sale that say that it was it was a long hard road. Like, Oh, I'm not good I've not good. It's not. It's not the city. Baba's makes the most comfortable socks in the history of feet having rethought. Every detail of the socks we wear to make something way better bobby socks do more than keep feed cozy. 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So you're solo yet. So. Okay. So here's the thing. So I came out with a dude that. So I told you, I worked at this restaurant I moved out here with a dude who? Was a friend of the bartender at the place I was a server at he was he had actually gotten into the like film school one on sunset like and Cojuangco I'm sure you've seen it before it's like a big turquoise building with a yellow to. From Arc light I know, I. Know. Yeah. So he got in there and I was like I'm moving to la I like. I like I'm taking four weeks or six weeks of classes at the New York Film Academy because I saw it advertised on my space. Yeah. It was cheap. It's now it's huge now back at the time truly it was like years. Sure we're little trade yeah. So. We're like, okay I. Guess We're both moving. Let's just do it. I. Guess You know Yeah. So he was like my only friend I have I mean yeah. The only person I knew at the time because then I found out much later that like a few people from high school that have come out here. So it's like slowly see people throughout the years right but my best friend Chris Tax and his mom. Sarah. Like she's just one of these like. She's just like one of these connected. Why like art people in Atlanta just use knows everyone she was like, oh, like my friend's cousin's friend is like a second second ad on like weeds. So like actually weirdly the first job had la I was like. You know. Day player P. A. Randomly throughout season two of we'd. Like you know like two days, then one day been like nothing for four weeks than a day three hours unlike is like Mary Louise Parker like you're at everyone important and then being very nice to us. This is my bay. Rules everyone. She's there. She's a monster I was like. Yeah, she's mad at Y'all she likes us. Like That's that's. I mean yelling never great. But that's but yeah, if you're nice to the people that you don't have to be nice to, that's really saying something. Yeah, exactly. I was I was always I was always down for M L. P.. So that was that was like my only connection then like that woman suzy who like got me that job essentially, I just went onto other stuff and I just Kinda. You know and then I also was working at like a sandwich shop at the time your name Sandwich shop cafe on Melrose. If you know that place at wall, sadly I pretty much got fired for is like a like a Vegan macrobiotic restaurant with adequate those next door and again it's like I'm a Nigga from. You know what? I'm saying like I. Get. Our backer, biotic. So am I break and my full Vegan work uniform by with just like go eat a quiz knows and like they were very much a lifestyle restaurant. So they'd be like you know when you're eating chicken when you're eating Bacon, what you're doing is and I was like. I'll have time for all this. The quiz knows so just do it. You have to do and they're like, okay you're fired I was like you got at like that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. I remember my uniform saga I would honestly think that that's actionable. You can't fire like that's a prejudice that you can't have. Yeah plus they like but they essentially did. They fired me for a different reason the they like me a completely different part of it. Yeah. Part of the restaurant that I like didn't understand like running like an expo line or something like like during the middle of like a lunch rush and they're like us, you clearly don't have takes you just brought me here. Yeah. Yeah. So so So. Anyway I say all that to say that like and then it just took years for me to get back at like. So then I started stand up because I was like I need to get like this you know. And like I was worrying at best buy like met Seth Green because he needed help like buying a video game for his nephews I like begged him for an internship on robot chicken and like was also starting stand up. So it's at least things we're like kind coal less than in a way. Yeah. But but and that and that. He was open to that. For me doing stand up we're going to be answering chauffeured internship. Yeah. Yeah. I mean like he literally like you know helping them around the story goes, Hey, man lay your cool. If you ever like beat anything I guess like. He offered. Okay. Yeah. Kind of you know. Sorry. So he was just like dude, you're so cool. Blah Blah Blah. And I was just like, yeah like I. Don't WanNa do this but like. One of my favorite movies literally of all time is the movie airborne. I was like I know people like like it and a corny whereas like I genuinely just like love it as like it was one of my favorite movies kid he's like Oh, my God. So grey bubble blinds like it's so weird that people have held onto it and then it was like Dr you like, are you trying to the industry? Yeah. Yeah and I was like look yes I'm I will literally just if you need me to just wash your tires every day I will do whatever it takes do not pay me a dime but. Whatever like I'll just cut your grass is like no just he was like here's an email to send a resume. Send it in because it's also it's like robot chicken this height of adult swim stuff like. It was. So I was just like, i. got to do something and I'm not I'm usually. I'm not. I don't want to say I'm not brave but my life regularly I'm just not I'm usually just like a more chill person like especially with like celebrity stuff I feel like they're usually so hounded but I was like this is but when it comes to like a career, I'll never be like read my script but I will be like can I do something for you for free? That will At. Louisiana Ingratiate meets the at some point down the line maybe you'll be interested in something. But why so I was just like look man I'll do whatever it takes like Oh, just on your resume to this e mail I'll tell them to be on the lookout for you and you know thought to interview still like I'm not GonNa sit there and say that I can give it to you but You go because like you wouldn't even be working at a meal. It's like okay. So like went in and got it like it's so weird like now especially but it's like I remember like Ben Schwartz was like a writer there with like he was on a writing team. What someone because he's doing writers and cycles like and he doesn't even remember of course he wouldn't remember. I just remember that he was like alright or you know yeah. When he started becoming like a person in the world, that's the same guy. So yeah. So yeah, anyway. So that's part of the GIARDI. And Doing. Stand up. Are you doing that in an open mics around here you know I mean are you? A touring like do you get a manager? How does that? How does that translate from getting to quit the sandwich shop you know or quit? Oh so so here back to a little bit earlier in the story. So my friend from High School Christine McLaughlin she. Moved, to, to go to USC, united. Like, posted a picture on my space of like fee of white, probably smoking a cigarette fraud of. The off Broadway shoe on sunset. Dreams or whatever. And she like kissing up are you in La? I was like I moved here while ago she's like I live here like Blah Blah. Blah let's hang. So I go hang she was like I live with these three weird guys. With Adam Devine, Blake, Anderson, and Kyle new check. Wow you know the work all IX. Directors and actors of you know. Driving comedy pop culture a little bit and like. So I just I was just hanging out with them because I didn't know anyone also I was talking atom one night and I was like down here for stand up and I haven't really done it again and he was like dog like I'm a stand comic. You didn't know that I was like no, and he's like dude, I'm literally it's so funny to think about now but like He's like Madore guy there. I'm actually leaving the job because I booked this huge Taco bell commercial, and now I can like coasts for a little bit and I'm just going to focus stand up. If you show up to an interview, they will give you my job. You should do it because they give like door guys stage time with people don't show up I was like that Soto so like I go and interview they hire me and I've just like door guy then like sure enough they like you know it's like doing open mic there like the manager readapt to saw me and like just like all the stuff was happening. I was like all right we'll like. We'll. It feels like. It's working you know and like at the time. I couldn't have asked for anything more I was like I had a job which is being adore guy than I also got to perform. So, this is the best you know like. You know it it really. Know, it's it's a comic. He that shall not be named. You know gave this interview where he was Kinda just like you know like now that I'm a big comic, it's actually weird because like it was. Though. I was broke. It was a little bit nicer to be like a broke. I. But like kind of on my own. Of like you're just so fulfilled by doing like. Thing one and thing to you know like you work and then go to stand up, and then when stand up becomes the work, it becomes low. You know it's like when you make money in anything, it taints the. The honesty of it. Yeah. So like I will say like I'll never miss being broke ever ever ever. But like the part of being broke, that was the simplicity of the standup part of it I do miss but anyway to get back into sorry what you are asking me just like socialist doing that then Adam and Blake and Kyle Onder 's like I met on through them clearly got workaholics and they're like, Yo. Would you leave the Improv and like be a writers production assistant for sounds like yeah. So like that was like my first foray into that because of the fat I met an executive at Combat Central, Walter Newman and another one named Seth Cohen. Walter then moved to adult swim. And he was like, Dude, you're because you start follow me on twitter was like you're funny were doing a cartoon version of the movie black dynamite I'm going to submit you for it. I was like ought super nice I'd like to pack. It's my first writing job is only a few weeks but still changed my life. So they Walter Carl Jones and Jillian apple bomb and then But then the other executive, Seth. Cohen. Ended up moving Fox and he and then he started running Chris Miller Philip Lords Company. And they were doing that show making history. So he remembered me with Adam pally was like, hey, this Yasser Dude might be funny even had never acted before was like, Oh, I remember him. So it's like Juno Adam. Pally so Same. As you like just dumb little tweets back and forth and his friends with Damon Wayans junior clearly who I was friends with. So we just we were both in New York at the same time once and we're like L. is just like go hang out somewhere like all right. So he's like started hanging out then we became friends and then they just couldn't find anyone for making history for whatever reason an atom was like my friend Yasser is really funny and Julia sharp the Creator was just like yeah but he's like a writer writers are good actors. Which is true which is still true. But Adams like let's just see him again seth knew me from before it is like what you see him and that's how. And got it eventually. But like yeah, I will say to the people out there. It's really There is value in like being a good person nice to people and not to say that like you do it expecting to get something out of it but like if you even remotely believe in Karma or spirituality or just like even just the idea that there is energy in the universe. Just try to put out as much good as possible because usually ever know how it's coming back to you and may not come back as a reward but right it's you know you just want to make sure that you're you're always on the up I would say I, don't even. As someone WHO's were? worked. down. Works. Sets works on. TV shows work. I don't even care if their if their if their motivation is completely self centered beyond Nice. Grease the gears so much better than anything else if you want, and then this is the thing I noticed because I I went to school and I worked as a production assistant. Yeah. The people that were nice to me and because I was working at work eighteen hour days for one hundred dollars flat rate taxes taken out right? It works out to less than the you know. It was less than minimum wage. Alaska time fish and the people that were nice to me. I would do anything for Iraq has they were nice to me and they respected me and they you know at times like might ask my opinion about what you know which of these couches deal like for the set just grab. A smart human being yeah. The people that were shitting me fuck them. I would like, I'd steal petty cash. Feel. Proud. Yeah. I'd be like in Wardrobe and there'd be a shirt that fit me. I needed clothes. So I met, it was like such a lesson of like even if you're looking at people as vending machines that you WanNa get productivity out the best coin to put in there is kindness and consideration absolutely, and if you really going to be kind and considerate, it's its own reward. So he he's GonNa but. It's like even for people that that I work with, you know that I've worked with who are just totally about don't give a fuck about you. I just want you to work for me and what I tell you to. If you're nice to me. Yeah though that but if you Know. Now you know. You say that it would bring up to things like the first thing being that. Chelsea my girlfriend has is really. I don't even want to say it's like a quote just like this. Really great thought I think she and she always says that. Nice is neutral essentially yeah. Like the idea being nice is just like that's why so many serial killers are described as like an iceberg because they don't do anything. Eve It's basic. So even if you're just nice, it's like, okay you'll get whatever you want. You know what I'm saying if you're kind that is a different thing. Is. An Act of you know is an act of aggression in of itself because you have to do a different, you have do push yourself to be. And so like I, I've always been like, yeah, like it's it's so much more important to be kind to be nice one. But to see your point like it's also because I think. I want to talk about social media but. There is like the social media thing that gets on my nerves but then also when I think past it a little bit more okay with it it's like we see the people who are like it's like them filming themselves with their hand out into the camera like holding money and they just walk to a homeless person like, Hey, man, you needed some cheering. Box and you're like, here's the thing 'cause in my and my soul I hate that I'm like you you. You do not need to do that, but then I'm like also. Whether the person filming and giving the money was doing it for altruistic reasons doesn't matter because the homeless person or House you know on housed person I believe is the term now that UN housed person now has ten dollars that they can use to eat or whatever. So it's like it is the thing you're talking about where it's like I kind of don't care about the intention anymore as long as good is coming out of it. You know what I mean like you can hate my guts and smile to my face as long as you're not actively trying to tank me in some way I don't care. What it is you're GonNa hate me. There's tons of people that I hate that I'm completely nice to or kind to because at the end of the day I would rather have that energy out there than being at which they were. Car. Just doesn't. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. I there's A. There's a charity event that I've gone to for. It's every year. It's A, it's A. It's a IT'S A. Children's Defense Fund. And they give like, yeah. Full on scholarships through college to kids in need and they do video packages of the kids lives and it is a fucking. Just Ball I. Like you just cry because kit you know like a kid that. Lived in a car with a schizophrenic mother for six years and got straight as and his you know was accepted to Stanford and you know just right just the fucking hardship that these kids go through and they're just spirit and and there's all these it's in. It's in Beverly Hills fancy thing tons of like show Biz, people, giving money, and they're in there and it's all you know and everybody's crying and feeling good about themselves for getting money and it always kills me because then you go outside and you see all the same people with dried tears on their face being pricks to the valley. Course. Like. It's like, Oh, I, just gave ten grand. So these kids could go to school. Where's my fucking car? And I it's like. It's never it never ends though it's why I stay in Burbank Yeah. I I do so I worry about this at times like. Show business anymore I can't take. It's. I just can't take it anymore I like making shows. Like making things but all the extra meeting Shit and all the people you've got to talk to and and get there. Okay. I, just as I get older I just have so little patients. eatings the meetings. So it's also unless you're doing something that you genuinely love with all of your heart, it kind of just amounts to like a that was cool. I. Of, course the perks of being able to live somewhere comfortably and yes food on the table. It's like all of that is great but it's like you can also get all of that being an accountant. Yeah. Yeah. So it really does become this like okay. Unless I'm like GONNA change the world, which we all. Get too deep into to realize like, oh, it's not gonNA be. Buddy I get you. Well I mean I'd catch a longtime here. So we got to kind of move onto the what what's in the future for you what are you still do you still have these kind of you still want to be a head writer on late night show and then get your own Sitcom and then still mysolar. standup I still WANNA do Sitcom would. You like it keeps you going back. It's an immediate thing. That's why like an hey twitter so much is that you know like someone clicking favorite or re tweet it's like, okay that was a good one. Right unlike the energy people is so nice. Sometimes it's like especially like you know when you're just in a writer's room and it's the same twelve people in, you're trying to make them laugh or. At some point, I don't care anymore I. Mean Yeah. So like I really do try like there's something nice about like this person has you know it's different for again like an Amy Schumer or you know a tiffany haddish where it's like these people came to see them but for me, it's like most people don't know who I am they go to a show and it's like if I can make them laugh with like because I'll say this I feel like in New York people. People. Don't WanNa laugh and you you really have to work for it but they're laughs are worth so much more because of and in La it's so many just like that was ok laughs and it's just like I don't want at I. Wish I was somewhere in the middle clearly but but regardless earning one. To someone has no idea who you are and most likely doesn't WANNA laugh. Yeah. Yeah. Because they don't know who you are is like such a thrill but also that like because it's also like the highs aren't worth the lows. I don't know why but it's like it becomes just it really is like one of those practices that becomes like a heart of who you are. You know it really does become part of your identity even this. I dislike. I will save like I don't miss it as much as I thought I would, but I do miss it. Thanks sense dot like not dot like some people are like dying get out there and tell the people and I'm like dying. I'll start up. At Five. It's Like but yeah I. I so was just like I you know. Even if I'm. Like. Jerry Seinfeld Than I. Do like the big special when I'm like forty five. I'll do that. I want I still want like the hour long special year. And I want a Sitcom on the air says created by Yasser Lester I. don't even have to be at which was again acting was never like on my plate. I. So. Yeah So yeah, those are the two things that you know and then like make sure family is good and that's kind of all I can ask for. Well yeah that's I. Mean sure people are good and I really want my biggest thing is to be an. Earlier and I just wanted to be in a place that like. You can help people you know what I'm saying people in the industry just people out in the world like I. You know there's that that quote that it's like you should give more to the world every single day that then you take from it like that's where I wanna be like, I I'd rather be. All said and done with this and be like, maybe I don't have a dime to my name but like there is a legacy of things that I have done for people and those people have gone on to do great things and even if it's not me, I'm okay with it as long as we get there as like A. Population within Hollywood. Industry and just out world also. Yeah. Yeah no, that's ice onto I. I definitely know what you mean because i. One of the things I. I you know with the the notion of a legacy to me is like it seemed. So fucking such a big deal word that I just I. It makes me I shy away from it but I do like the fact and I mean I really liked the fact. That I was on a show that meant a lot to a lot of people right? You know what I mean like did that knowing what shows as somebody who took being funny seriously, who is who studied it? Who wanted to do it for a living those shows it really mattered to me. I am very very happy that I was on a show that mattered in a similar way to people younger than me who are in exactly the same kind of position that was really good and and you know a couple of the sitcoms I did same deal. You know very proud very proud of those in very proud of. You know that they happen it's weird to. Businesses so and I mean in the world is so I mean you know fucking. The thing that people try to insult me all the time with is What are you know? You've just sat next to people for all those years or your or why don't you make another show that fails and it's It's just like it's such a it's such a transactional kind of world, right? Yeah. Yeah. It it does kind of suck because you can't. You know I'm okay with it but then there's also another part of me and it's like, yeah, what it sure would have been nice. If one of those shows that really last. Yeah for being being being a cult favorite is pretty sweet but it's even better runaway hit like, right? Yeah. That's pretty fucking sweet too. But yeah, it is. You know it is like it's nice that you had that if that for other people and I and another thing that I think all the time is like I think possibly like if I am supposed to give something to the world creatively. I sometimes because my both my kids are so talented. It just being proud it but sometimes, I think like maybe what I'm doing is. Is. Helping those two art. To make art. The stuff that they do will be. You know in some way my contribution. Yeah, you know so. Well, what's the? What's the point of the Leicester Story like what do you like if you could? You Know Somebody You gotTA finish up the Article Been The long New York Times magazine Yasser Lester interview up to. A summation. Man I would say that Lake. I may have. A May? have. Never. Might not have always done it. Right? And I might have made it a lot harder at points. But I? At the very end of it. I again like just it is so important to me that like. The people around me know that they were like loved. And that how much of this though I also enjoy how much of this was for them and that like they can look back and be like, Dang like. We it doesn't ever feel singular that feel like a collaboration between like me and my family and my friends and people in the street that I've met and Mike. You know what I mean like that we're all kind of in a thing together where where Yasser Hate to beat a third person, but Yasser Lesser doesn't feel like a singular person. It feels like an idea of laying creativity and goodness out in the world and and you know this idea that you also. Like can come from nothing and bake something. That yeah that is that we're. That we're kind of all in together you know. Yeah. That's I mean and I mean in the story that you've told in this hour and a half has been that has been like connections that you made with people. and. The kindness of people people seeing your kindness repaying kindness with more kindness and so yeah, I. Mean that's it's it's a very it's a nice story and you got you know. You're in a nice place and you deserve it. Yeah. That being said. But also one hundred percent. Recognizing that I'm one of the most talented people that most people I've ever met. Said listen. That's the other thing underlies everything you're saying, and it's like the notion that you got a chance to do this and you got a chance to do that. If you didn't have it, you would be still fucking best buy. and. It's hard to tell people. Hey, I would be an Amazon driver. By this time, you would have got to ups. Yeah I mean. Gets a where what they want. They throw the best over. You know what I'm saying I ain't trying to wear a uniform or but listen. But that age shorts is you know you probably great in Brown and it's You know you don't have to worry about it. You know there's no what am I going to wear today? You're gonNA wear the brown shorts in little shirt and you know But I, listen I. I don't think you should work for ups. I. Endless this you shouldn't work you. Know but I mean I I do think. That's always to me when people say follow your dreams, you can do it. It's like it's always conditional based on. Yeah but you gotta be able to do it. Yeah. I mean and and I don't know what to tell people. Who are grinding away and not find not making any traction I don't know what to tell you because. It's not for me to say, maybe you should think of doing something else but right But it is like it's hard. You gotTa have. You know in addition, you just have to have the talent and and even a little bit. You can have a tiny sliver of talent it or just the understanding of what creates talent. Yeah. Then you can build on that. There are people that are actually gifted. There are people who you know it takes a ton of work but like. I will say it's just like a piece of advice of people list thing it's like. You have to. Where you are and I knew this I knew that I could get to where I right now and I know from now I can get to the next place I wanna be but I also understand that to get to the place that I want to be this version of me needs to do more work to get there whereas people think like I'm good. Now, why am I not running this show or why am I not a famous actor or whatever it is that you WanNa do while. It's like you have to understand that the current generation of you is going to. Get to the next level, but through work but you now. plopped into a successful thing is going to crash and burn, and once I learned that early on. I was like, oh. Yeah. So keep the ego of like, I am dope and I'm going to get there but know that you have to get there. Yeah. Like you're not going to be dropped off there. Yeah. Yeah. You know there's something and like you said, I kept you and we're kind of like the natural end of this thing but there is something I wanted to talk about you with you now because it was so fucking funny. The took the the Jersey Mike's. Did Yeah which People don't know you made up a fake. Jersey Mike's corporate sort of announcement that they were changing the name of Brl. Ts. To be LM's for Bacon Lettuce and. Mater. Made. Yeah Yeah. And it so funny because it is like. But I. I mean and people went fucking bananas. I mean for if you're looking for if that was bait. Chip. So many people chopped down hard fucking. But I did want to ask because so much of what's happening now and I mean and I'm you know I'm a big fucking. Liberal. You, know. People don't you know the leftists think I'm a Scorpio sellout or? Just because I'm old and sort of. More. Realistic or I don't know maybe cynical. I do you know but? There's so much about what's happening. Right now with race in this country that I don't even like with my twitter account I, feel like it's best for me to re tweet like might be saying stuff and I mean I've heard. Older African American people say I can't remember who it was. Somebody was just saying like it's better to let the younger people. They're doing a great job of making it and I to make a joke in that. Sphere in there and like. It's so to me, it's like. Terrifying and I don't necessarily mean white in its black but I mean. When you met Joe I. It's like making a joke a funeral. You're right? Yeah. For sure and just after be ready for whatever. Yeah. And what is it about that? Like what draws you to make that kind of joke to be like within this? Just. fucking. Nightmare that's going on to be like, Hey, come on. Let's let's fucking Mike's all I. here's there's two things at play like. Jersey Mike's like because I was thinking of all the sandwich companies because I had the idea for the bill like I. The letters line. Sandwich shop at it's just like Jersey Mike's just sound like the wrong place you WanNa hear a bird. Because even like subway you would imagine they would actually do something they've had been in so much trouble and like blimpy was to goofy and not enough people noted as well as like Jersey Mike's just like it's still just sounds like a boardwalk. Yeah. Yeah. So that's the first thing but secondly, the real -ness of it is I think that lake. You know I think that so much of like though white experience for people all of this has been black tragedy. It's like videos George Floyd getting killed Ahmad Arbitrary Brianna. Taylor. You Know Tony mcdaid Jesus Christ the fact that I meet Elijah. McLean it's hard. I get confused as to which is which Like. The person that got shot on their porch person that got shotting at the gas station rights exactly. Yeah Lake. So there's so many I don't even think I said George Floyd but but my bigger point being is that like if then became. A little bit. What you're saying like I'm just GonNa read Tweed GonNa Listen Blah Blah Blah and I and you know there are there black people out there smarter than me who get it more? Who understand the complexity of this and I understand the complexity what I will say is that I know I don't have all the answers and I know that one thing I can contribute is humor. I also believe that like stepping out of the Monolithic experience that's placed on black people to base. Sad constantly it's like a course where sad of course we're mad but like Were also Weirdos and we make jokes about things sometimes that we shouldn't and the same way that white people do or letting ex people do or Asian people do or Gender Queer people whoever and it's like I feel like we're sometimes with so much. Gravitas, and let's like, no we're still idiots saying like some of us can still be idiots. And I now I'm not saying I'm the person that people should be listening do but I knew for me I was like I want to be funny in a moment that. Speaks to this thing that we are going yeah. Yeah, and I was like because, i. I also did things where I like made up tweets where I said that black people needed white people to shave off their eyebrows this holiday you know what I mean like. Just, like because they did come to a point because it wasn't and people thought I was like messing with liberals and to an extent you have to because they're the ones who were doing it but it was more just as idea that like people were willing to do anything except be like we need to define the police. Like. Yeah. That's the only answer. It's all of this right now it's truly the laser focus of everyone it should be. Yeah. So yeah. All right. If we're not doing that then let's we might as well have a little bit of fun and like again like. Like you know people were like, wow, there's like art and all this stuff and it's like maybe and I'm not I truly not going to sit here and be pretentious enough to say that was my intention. My intention was to be funny and like moderately speak on a thing happening because that's the comedy that I love. That's why I love Wanda Sykes why like Chris Rockets? Dave Chapelle it's why. I love Hossa Manashian like all these people it's like they all in John Oliver. It's like you know even like I. Don't know if you watch any of the Andrew Schultz stuff online he's in new. York comic does like he essentially does like five minute on his own five minute weekly news recaps that are so funny and so spot on you should check them out if out. But. It's it's stuff like lab or I'm like Oh wake they are using both skills to say something you know and that was like again I may not be that articulate but I, know photoshop I know how to make a joke. I know that I can do something with us. I. Think it articulates because the point was made by so many people and it's I think. Among the points that you're making the same point. Nobody wants a golden girls episode polled rarity wants he you know. I. I can't remember all the all the sort of community a Kim Jong He's not. He's literally in Alien Layette like near as you know like it's all the wrong answers, use the money that you were doing for that right and put it into a candidate who was willing to defunding police. Yes that's IT and its performance. Corporate. Unity Yeah because it's now but it also to it's like a frustrating thing is like well now it's gotten just like George. Floyd. was such a breaking point Kamau Bell was on here and we talked about it like it just the you can't. Even even the fucking stevescalise or something at the at the RNC. Is is acknowledging it was a murder. Yeah. That was that was horrifying and that was a murder and so that makes it. Okay for EMINEM 's to say, right? Yeah. Stand with black people. Were saying that you know they weren't staying that with my Brown in eight it it takes. It's just it's. It's like you have to wait. So long for this glacier to move to where it's okay for the people with the money to say it, and in many ways I think that joke that you make makes the point in a way that sticks better than a hundred activists saying online. We don't want performance of we want real right now and and you know and what you did. Showed it. I think that's right. Aiming to cut you off but I think that and again, it wasn't the intention. So I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm like by any means this smart but think good satire truly blends things in a way that you're taken aback, right? It's like. It's like when Stephen Colbert Colbert Barrackpore the they used to do like a test the you know focus groups with conservatives and with liberals and liberals always thought Stephen Colbert. Was Making Fun of. Blitz Hughes, making fun of Conservatives. But Conservatives thought he was making fun of Liberals by showing that. They couldn't handle someone like this aggressive and you're like, Oh that's why it's so good because he has unified everyone though they don't know they're unified with different intentions. Like. That's where I. That Jersey myself kind of ended up is that like, oh, it landed in the sense that people got. Performance of S, but also once they realize it was a joke realized that's what the intent was. But at I actually got mad at it and because they actually got mad they realized they were sick of corporations saying this. Yes. That makes sense. Yeah. Absolutely of yeah. Well keep on fucking with people. All right, man it's. Tom Green Twenty? Twenty. Yeah Everyo- everyone's favorite Prague's. Well. Thank you so much for spend some time with me. It's. Yeah I mean it's honestly these taping these things because I get to pick and choose to. I. Get to talk to it's like it's like a play date. Instead of just like. Staring at the walls I get to you for a while. So Really Fund made my day. It's better than finding a coffee shop where we have to do the whole alike can you believe it in the? The real right right well, and also to it's like a form where I ask you probing personal questions and it doesn't seem rude in. Yeah. But next time we go to coffee you gotta ask. Hey I'm ready. But it's fucking guts. Yeah I WANNA, do a podcast where I just talking about the questions. I'm GONNA ask you. All right. Well, Yasser Lest your thank you so much and Thank all of you I. Think all of you out there for listening and come back next week where I'll be talking to somebody. Probably. alabi. The three questions with Andy Richter is a team coco in Europe production it's produced by me Kevin Bartelt executive produced by Adam Saks and jeff Ross team coco and Chris Bannon and Colin Anderson Eddie. Lov Our supervising producer is Aaron. 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7. Andy Richter, Listener Questions

Inside Conan: An Important Hollywood Podcast

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7. Andy Richter, Listener Questions

"And now it's time for. Inside Conan and importance Hollywood cast. Hey, welcome to incite inside Conan's Conan colon an important Hollywood podcast. Yeah. I'm Jesse Gaskell on Mike Sweeney. We're writers here on the cone show. Very we're very excited about today's guest. Yes, we got it. We hooked a big fish today. We dedicated the whole show too. He's he's a talker. He's fantastic. Think he enjoyed having people to listen to them. Yes. Yes. Andy Richter and not interrupting the. That's four shadowing Andy Richter the side kick of our show Andy running Andy who's you know, started on the show before even went on the air bats right in the third nineteen Ninety-three. So yes, a lot of great stories. Does a lot of insight into how this place works. And we're also going to handle a listener question on today show. Yeah. We I've been really enjoying those is males. Keep those come. They're fantastic. The first here's Andy. We're joined by someone who I think has pretty good insight into how this weird place works. Even though he he's really worked it. So he has this great office all the way at the end of a hallway where you truly have to go. Down. It's very very smart this Andy Richter, Richter flow, forget to say who voice, they should know. This place is is first of all I was tailor-made to be a kick because I was raised into a family who I never got one fucking minute to decide what I want. Was always four other voices telling me what they wanted. And I and I'm and I'm good at facilitating and I had early age. Derived pleasure from helping other people and like my mother will say to me like. When you're like eleven years old, I stopped arguing with you. 'cause you won all the arguments. And she said, and then I started asking you for advice because you gave real great advice, which is does sound real cute until you realize it's the dissolution of family, and she's asking not Howard vice about that. I thought you're winning arguments dissolve the family. No, okay, fucker. Please don't joke. I'm trying to share joking. No, no responsibility. Yeah. No. So I'm born to be codependent. I'm born to be next to someone more high strung who needs it more. You know is who like needs to control the agenda more. Whereas I base, but I get what I want out of life. And I also control the person that thinks they're controlling thing. Right. No. A little bit of a puppet butting that person when their arguments is clearly they have a big picture. Well. With your mother is Conan your mom or one of your siblings. You said four people were kind of well, but I I picked it. And they're not no there, and I want to know first of all I'm all just what I've said gonna cause. Of course, always say. Fairness we really pulled it out to you. Probably. Now. That's actually, they probably aren't. Although I I was on. Mark Marins, Debbie, Tf Lee, and it's very early early days. And I throw Boma I thought. Well. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Like, I just thought podcast those radio from I can tell them all I want about my family, some fucker emails. My dad and says you got to hear all this stuff. Your son said about you. And then I get it from my mom to who. Then my dad Senate onto my mom, my mom, and like it was things that were said like like, the family pastime was sitting somewhere doing nothing, and judging all the people that were doing things and that how we all lived under a Hugh. How like, you know, like the main thing that we had in common was the big umbrella of depression and under bad. Oh, not when for my mother's terrible. She's she's like I wish sometimes you would. That's very planning. I wish sometimes you would temper your destroy. You know, your descriptions of our family in the criticisms what some positive things, and I said, all right? That's fair. I is that fair, and I will attempt to do that. And she said because I don't think that we just sit around criticizing everybody. I we don't let that's not all we do. I think we can be very positive within a minute. He's talking about her sister. And and her husband and saying they're such a fucking mess day. You know there. Dad, and he's just a. I was like I said, hey, mom. We're real real positive, aren't we? We're real fucking pollyannas about everything if you sick emailing your dad, it was anyway, it was so perfect because it was like one of those just like worshippers like oh fuck you mom. No, one likes really be honest about what the family dynamic is new. I'm fine with it. Because I mean, it's it's it's the it's the example for the world, you fix the fix the world. So don't be so fucking scared to be broken. Yeah. And to be talk about how your broken fix it. You know, if fixing the family is the way to fix the world. In big trouble. Well, no. But but no. But it is I believe in that I believe in families are a lot of work. The family is is the laboratory. Yes, for the way that you interact with the world. So you feel there's growth within your family. The people you're talking about right now. No. There's been growth in terms of like how ideal where there's been growth in terms of like. Boundaries set and distances like and just shit that I'm not gonna put up with anymore. You know, so yeah, I mean, if your mom is listening. I think one of the positive reflections on your family is that you turned out so well, and that you are successful in, you know, well adjusted now, and so I'm just saying that you're being very your. Yeah. I know I'm always amazed. And I really, and I think this is a wonderful wonderful thing that that they're the tribe of women are so protective of each other, especially even ones that they don't even. Maize maize is me sometimes where it's just like. Details of it that have happened in my life lately oppressive way males are that they need even long distance. So you have to be bonded to. Right. Exactly. I mean, it's like, you know, women got us to or stick up for each other because they get the shit into the stick virtually everywhere on earth. That changes Andy Nye really gonna stick up for each other. But anyway, what can you know, your notion of let me being off in a corner, which is very true I on an island here and that is well protected by keeper your assistant glee. Real fucking BULLDOGS. She's not even there. Never she let sweet terrasson she checks things. And she's like would it be. Okay. If I if I come in like an hour late for work, and then I'll just like your back like air quotes work. Ha. What the fuck are you talking about? Do for me. Although now lately all need to keep up the facade. Now, I ought to be paying therapist fees. Oh therapist for her. No. Being hurt there. Increasing her ear. Good advice. Yes. All right. Yeah. She's no. She's a lovely person. She's in very. Empathetic very important. She I knew her she babysat from my kids. She babysat for our kids before she babysat for your. Yeah. Yeah. So she was she leads Hayek is is my assistant, and she I I got to know her. She was Jill Solloway 's personal assistant, and I've known Jill Solloway since about nineteen eighty nine. Maybe you did. Nate. Really? Yeah. Yeah. And then and then no I've met her before the real because one of my first improv coaches was so fucking lazy that he would have our rehearsal his apartment, and he was living boyfriend at the time, and he would lie on the couch while we did improv. He couldn't even be bothered to sit upright. And he was in the thing too. Is that he was kind of at the time like prob wonder Kinley college? Yeah. Younger than most of the people that were doing the impressed laying on the fucking couch, and it just like even from that guy. I was I was just like it sounds like g. And so I I would meet and then Joe would Joe would you know? Come in into the rehearsal, usually accompanied by my future sister-in-law Becky thyr Whitby, which is Becky was. Jill Jill, usually has at least three or four people. Now, I think it's like fifty in her thrall, right? And at the time Becky was in her thrall part of her entourage. And I I got to know them got to know that kind of like larger group of gr- tastic -ly. Crazy, improv Chicago women, and that's how I and I I met Sarah through Becky reading her letters out loud is the first exposure. I mean Sarah's. Yeah. Yeah. Because she's funny because she's a great writer, and she's very, right. And then I met her, and then I met her once I met Sarah once in a bar and Chicago when they have they just I just happened into a bar, and she was visiting. I was like, oh, I know you heard heard your letters. Yeah. I've heard you. And but then it was when we did the rely Brady bunch in Los Angeles that Sarah had finished college was living in Denver and then came to LA to be with the Brady bunch. How we started dating. Oh, wow. That's a great story. The real live Brady bunch was also kinda your was at your a like was that how you met Lorne Michaels. And I mean. Like people. No, no. That was all that was that was well, yes, that's Davy Jones. That's how I did meet Gabi Jones. Okay. And. Who was so fucking great Dave best eighty doors? He's. Tiny horsey because he had been a jockey he lives in some little Terry horsey. Got a bunch. He lived on a horse farm chocolate. Trump their dogs where the the. No till he told, but he told us all the story about one day getting on his horse riding three miles into town to the pub with his dog getting completely drunk writing home in the rain passing out and falling off the horse and the next day people in town telling him, oh, I saw you passed out in the ditch with your horse in your dog standing waiting. But nobody stops or anything. Hey, like, so you laying in the past out drunk poor dog and horse. Sold out by your pets to clear out the horse in the dog just standing there. Fucking. Yes. So anyway, I that me having that office, and it is weird. When I my presence here. There are people that's on the third floor. I'm kind of an upper corner on the third floor talked a little bit with everyone about the second and third floor dichotomy. Right. Right. Right, right. The third floors word happen as symbolized. The third floor is where the lien is the second floor is where the fat is. Let's just. Lar- perhaps. No, no, just you know, the stuff that keeps us warm all of doesn't really delicious snappy. They're getting is really weighing them down. But no. So I do definitely I'm on an island there. And when I was on the real Brady bunch. I made my own little island. It's what I do when I when I would in college you go to class. You know, I like take a desk kind of outside of the like kind of the normal thing. And I think it's in reaction to all of that kind of like that feeling from very early age of like. Hi ohi. What could what do you have for me? What give me something? And so it's always had this kind of distant and like the Brady bunch just which was very not alone. Though. I wish I were alone. I wish I were alone. Because I I don't I honestly don't like when is this airing? I love it. If you became a little this is Friday. I wish you became a loner in the show like you just stop talking to co. Oh, just turn your chair away. We don't. Well, we don't see we we talk in rehearsal. But like, we don't talk a lot days. But I mean, that's a natural thing when you've got families and Browns, but you know, his kind of run out of things to talk about probably a little bit. Because I mean, I I don't know if this has been covered on this show. He says the same twenty things. Over to the point where you want to just carve your own face off with a jar. Any says it every time like it's the first time he say, and everybody's got their own like like, here's what you are to me. Like, you're whatever your apple head. Yeah. And then it's just like that's all you are now if apple heads mom dies Conan might say. Sorry about your mom. And then it's right back to Abby head. Yeah. Yeah. It's. Yeah. Birth to apple, but I don't know. But I just picked out about my head. Yeah. But my little office up there to reminds me very much of family gatherings. I was and I've said this, and I say this as like as a flaw is something that I wish I could do is that my primary state is in a houseful of people, but in a room alone. And and there's something that's like tragic about that to me something that's like that. And it's kind of what I am here. I mean, I interacted there's a lot of people. I have a lot of very close friends here almost like family. You know, there are people that there are people that have been on this show for. I mean, you're one of. Yeah. And I mean, but I'm even like Steve Hollander was a PA. And now he's stage manager, and I feel closer to him than I do some of my cousins there are people on this show. Jon Rao does props feels like family. Bullshit. Like, a we're a family. But I mean, really seriously, you'll tell I yeah, absolutely bills. Same way condition. Just when I'm in their presence. It is as comfortable as as somebody that I was raised with crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Hard consecutive hours and also to and crazy high pressure things where everyone's waiting around for God, we need this. So there's also there's no there's no hierarchical works shit. There's just me, and there's just me the guy in them the guy or me the woman in their me the man in her the woman what depending on the gender of the person. It's just like like, I don't I don't get a sense. I mean, people do have to there are like they have to cater to my schedule. When we're doing things, you know, and I do have site of lake say like in props. I might have a supervisory kind of thing like that prop is no good get another prop right? But other than that. That was a very hard thing. To learn I found coming in when you start here on a late night show, and you're producing something and someone goes all right? Here's what we made or the photo research and going having realizing you don't like having to go look good. Yeah. Yeah. The first few times, I. Felt so self conscious. I got I got used to that real quick. Yes. It just because at time. So something would get cut. If you didn't get it. Right. There were the only time they quickly only time I have ever gotten anybody fired in my show biz career was. These some people that were on Andy Richter controls the universe who brought in garbage, right and comedy like one of the one of the. I would say. Props? It'd be hard to say which department, but you've got costumes and hair makeup and props for comedy. They are like fucking surgeons tools, if they're wrong, you it you can ruin a whole thing. And if they're good they make they think things you didn't even think. Yeah. Which is thing that's fantastic. And there was a zoo specific bit where I was it was like a fantasy sequence. And I was like a superman and I squeezed in old ladies head into a diamond. And they brought it was like timed. It's fucking do this shot. Right. And they brought like here's your diamonds. And it was like some sort of something that would be at like a display case for like a geologist obvious te of different crystals half of them were broken. Like like, they were just broken in half. There was absolutely nothing that would work, and I just am. I it was just lazy. It was. Yes. Terrible. And it's like. Up to squeeze an old ladies head, and then hold up a fucking diamond diamond size of a grapefruit. You know? It's like I can't hold up a fucking broken. Yeah. Yeah. I know. How you you squeeze the hopefully, ladies I grab. It's on that. Grabbed the old ladies head? And you know, I don't squeeze my hand. Excel it with my arms, you know. But yes, so that was I walked away and said like I wanna watch they gotta go these that's because also because I did. How did that's what I ended up doing film production that I had worked into props and special effects prop, rigging? So I have like no it's pasta have. Yes, I have. And I also have a sense. I mean, I have a sense of professionalism about every, but but also many years going you you're very mechanically inclined. And you are great at fixing things. Whether it's people stuff or like, just literally machinery your very hands. Yes. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. No. I, you know, I grew up in building trades in plumbing, carpentry, things like that full skills. I do I do. I can I can do. I can do. Most most simple household things. And I can I can ex- electrically. I'm not so good, but I can change like I can change light fixtures. Yeah. But I can't rewire. Lee wiring ever room rewiring is it's not that I wired someone's house boat because I was staying on it for two weeks. So I was like they're complained. They didn't have so I wouldn't upon tune in figure. It out and just doing electrical work on the water. Sounds extremely I had a death wish. I learned all that stuff too. Because my mother was so cheap. She stopped calling people to repair figure it out. The. For youtube. That's true. It is now I don't do anything. I'm at do. You still do stuff? Like that around the things I do things that that are too much of a hassle. Right, ty. Need a lot of? Yeah. I it's all it's all like, it's all like a weighing of like me changing the handle of this faucet. Like, the accessibility of the faucet handle. How long will it take to do it? There's other things like caulking. I'm terrible at call somebody into cau- because I can't. Yeah. It's a mess. But also, I would do things around the house and no one gave a shit now lie. So I'd be like, well, why am I gonna waste like a? Hey, look, look, I changed a fossil. It's critic wife and kids be like, what are you to meet you a lot of the times those those chores are less about money saving. It's not like I'm not going to pay somebody. It's more. Like if I just do it will get fucking done. We don't have to get into the can't be here onto I'm like well. I'm like, well, I have to work, and we're like well can it be Thursday? No, the liqu all that. Yeah. All that. It's way more frustrating. Any then crawling under the house and changing valve you just lost me there. It is fun. It's cozy. Yeah. And no one can get to you. It's the you oh separate yourself through. That's true. Set it up like your low apart from the group up in your I think people are gonna try to come and rescue. They're going to try to storm the building. I have said to there are people people who I genuinely love and have tremendous affection for who work on this show daily that I I will not see for two weeks because I go to my office, and I will my real pattern is I I use the Warner Brothers. Jim go to the GM usually now, go home and then go back to my office. Go home shower, go to the office rehearsal time, go to the stage, go to addressing room go to the stage. Go out the back door, go home. You know? I mean, it's very rare that I'm in other areas of the building I have like. In the kitchen. Yeah. Well, the kitchen. Yeah. Sort of on the way, and that's usually just throwing away my lunch because I don't want to. You know, what I love the point of doing this today to talk about the new all the remotes. That's right producer, just the work. Like that. You know, I. Stroke us talking about so show. Fucking better than this. Talking about wanting to carve my own face Conan's. Repetitive. Hey, that's the real gold. It's more than twenty things s-. Here's the thing. I don't remember half of that. I don't remember too. Well. I'll tell you the way that remotes evolved. And I used to have an axe to grind about this. I don't anymore because I don't care but do candy. You can't yourself like from the Scott crimen school of interrupt. I don't know what that. Yes. Well, if you did you'd be. All right. We'll just set it that out or amplify it. It's like, oh, here's a story working up steam here, we go. So men and something in your news. Okay. Go ahead remote started. I'll be back to read a commercial. Go ahead. Yeah. Right. And early in the early in an earpiece. Dow Conan show still had after birth on it. Roberts. Michael came to me and said. Hey, here's an idea. And I also do in those days. I was not like I did not come into the situation. Based on my previous previous my opening monologue here. I did not come into this thing. Looking for ways for Andy Richter shine on television? Like, I just like that's never how I was. And I was an improv too. So it was hired originally to be a writer. I was I was the first rider higher interest. No. That's all right. Yeah. No. I was the first writer hired, and I was hired this because of the real live Brady bunch. Was in New York. And actually a couple of friends of mine were on SNL for one season. Melanie, Hutzel and Beth K, he'll Betty kale and because of their connection SNL. I would go hang out with them and go see them SNL, and I met Robert and Robert. Roberts. Michael there. And it was just it was just like, you know, like we hit it off because you know, we're funny guys in a similar way and appreciated each other's being funny. Then when the Brady bunch went to LA. Beth who is very good friend of mine came out to LA to do whatever. SNL people do in LA for the show. And came out to work on what I guess was the Hans and FRANZ script and the three of us and a couple of other people we hung out we go out and socialize. And then then I got part I was back in Chicago. I got a part in the movie cabin. Boy, I was in LA done cabin. Boy was literally looking for like a like when I got hired on the Conan show the same day. I got a call that I'd gotten a job as an assistant manager in a movie theater in Westwood Giles. I was already terrified that I would be behind the fucking counter selling popcorn when cabin boy was on the school. Yeah. Yeah. It's really me. So, but I was able to say I'm sorry. I got a job book Kona. Robert asked me, hey, I'm working with this guy Conan who I just heard like and I'd sat in front of Bob Odenkirk and Carol leafer at a Jeff garland taping. Jeff garland had a sitcom played a Ralph kramden ish cop and. Service tests. And I was I was sitting in front of them eavesdropping on Bob talking about Conan and Conan's, my friend, and this and that so I was like, oh, this is that Coenen guy, and I was at their with Kate Flannery for another and the other namedrop who I've known for Kate Flannery. We're into our very first improv classes together. Setting. So I I'm sorry. I. I swear to God what's the word apartment? How does that? Add. I don't know what does anything class. No the apartment was for rehearsal. What does what does Bob Odenkirk mentioned his friend Conan ad? It's how I heard. Eating up to my. So I'm going on my podcast. You're right go Robert says, I'm where I'm going to be head writer on this Conan show wanna meet him possibly get a job as a writer. Sure, I say we go to juniors deli. Look it up it's been well documented. And apparently goes right back to Robert and says, hire this guy. I love him because I did things like when they put the connect down on the table, which he was like it was like ordered a baby's head. For him. I said I had borscht cash and he was just like. The monkey brains. And. The that particular connect the way that they were made it had like a knob of dough on the top. And when they said it down I leaned in close to him when I just went it looks like tit. And then I do like that was that was like like, it's the kind of thing. It's the kind of play you make in a job interview. That's either going to score big or lose your job. I felt like it looks like it with this guy was probably a winner any it was delay delighted so so he that's seen a tip at that job. And could information job interview, I could instantly tell I could be a stupid as I wanted to in in like the best like the happiest ways the stupid that makes you the happiest and apparently he got Robert and was like hire him hire him hire him Roberts like well. Let's see what he writes. So I actually went to San Francisco where my wife was standing my wife to be at the time was staying, and I never written a packet or anything I didn't. So I was like, I don't know. It sounds like a talk show he things and I was at you'll salaries house us Jill follows a typewriter and her and her beige paper. I was your white paper beige papers, this is not very professional. But I didn't go to the fuck and CVS and by white paper. I just used her Beijing. And and I wrote and I wrote up this. I mean, it wasn't bad. It was it was an okay packet for someone who's just your first, dry run pack. Did you already know they loved you? Like, I did not. I knew I knew we had fun. Yeah. I knew that we'd had fun. But I didn't know it was very daunting to me a writer, you know. Sure. And then and that's how I got hired in. You're very first packet you ever road. Yeah. Yeah. That has never happened to anyone else. But it was also. It was also it wasn't just I mean, I also was coming into it. I think I think somewhere in Robert's mind, they knew that I would be a hybrid of performer, and and it may even been in Robert's mind that I was going to be a sidekick Robert, and it wouldn't it would it would make complete sense to me with Robert to think. Conan at at especially at that point in his cone, Innis. It might be of good thing to have him have a sidekick, especially because there hasn't been aside kick for a long time so already it's kind of like we were already in the mind of like recycling tropes that had been kind of put off to the side a little bit. And kind of having a throwback of the look of the show in the field. The show being kind of more not trying to be John Stewart in a leather jacket t shirt like to try to you know, that it's now. Yeah. But I mean, that's what we become become now that we're like divorce dads move into marina del Ray. But so that was I think I think that that was probably in Robert's mind because then I also been this talk that we were going to have like sort of repetoire repertory of characters which would have been like me, and Dino and Louis C K. And I think maybe I don't know if McCann was there at that point wasn't. Yeah. Or stack was stack stack was started up. Yeah. But they're going to be like perform like we're going to performers that would that would be true. Yeah. All Steve Allen Steve Allen, you know, head Tim Conway and Carol Burnett, and and Robert came to me one day and said, hey, well, he had already from the very first test shows, which the first test show was just it was Bob Costas as later set, and they head Coenen basically sit in a chair and put lights and cameras on him. And Robert I was in my office. And I saw. Conan on the monitor. And he said go sit with him was like, okay, keeping company just keep them talking. So I sat with and he and I already had stick around the office. He edged dick like did this doesn't do it so much anymore. But he had this very what I found to be very aggressive thing to do which is to just while you're at your desk trying to write comedy for his fucking show. Tar stand fucking foot from you and play some God damn hillbilly rockabilly thing that you heard a thousand fucking times. And he would just stand there. And most people just were frozen in awkward like. But what I would do is get up and. Yeah. And it usually would make him kind of back off. Like aggressive. Yes. And now out aggressive, and and so we so we had thing we had kind of like like like smarty dummy. Like routines that we did around the office that we just fell into natural. And and and trade off, you know, like like one of us would top one of us would it when it came to smarty, and dummy sort of trade it off. So it was already like it wasn't a surprise go. Sit talk to them because we already had a thing. And then as those test shows went on every test show. It was go out their stand with him. Okay. And then after a few of those, and they're very informal like one was just like a cooking segment like some cook came in and cooked, something just so he could practice that kind of thing. And then Robert called me in his office and said, he came into my office said, hey, would you be interested in being the sidekick, and I was kinda hoping to be like one of the sketch players and he's like well. Okay. I think about it. And I said I said, yeah. And I talked to my wife about it. Although I don't even know if we were married we weren't married yet. And he left my office, and like the door shut is lift my office. And I was like who the fuck and my kidding. Yeah. Walk in my kidding. Do you wanna be on Cheney every night? No. I think I'd rather be on. Averaging one and a half nights a week. You know? Yeah. So. And then and then we did a number two need about two weeks test shows, and I just assumed I'm in blessedly blissfully ignorant about a lot of things and one of them was I'm going to be on this show. And I did these test shows, and I just was there being myself. Robert Robert endorsed, just like, do whatever you want say, whatever you want will be shy. And then after one of the last test show somebody came to me, right? Jeff Ross I think came to be right before we were supposed to go on and said Lee Lee sued on the show, you going to dinner the lawn. Oh boy. Okay. So Conan, and I got an car with Eugene Lawrence driver. His notorious driver the time, and we were taken to a restaurant and ushered to a table where they're sat Lauren and Steve Martin. Yeah. And it was the four of us having dinner. No big deal. And I had to kind of like, you know, I had to say some stuff, but I don't I did you did the joke again. No, no. I didn't bread. Didn't look right. Bring me another data. Do you have a bull that you could maybe a biscuit on top that takes the pressure talking to Lauren off to having Steve Martin, right? Yes. Yes. It's very clever ploy in his part. Yeah. No, Loren Loren. I Mike contact with Lauren was very minimum except for him. Like a couple there were a couple of different times. And we had our Christmas party in the studio. When times we're tight or something and in very late and two years. I don't know if they were in a row he saw he said, oh, Andy, oh, you're still with the show the same joke. 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Oh, Cindy, no. I always heard it was right way. Yes. I mean that would make sense, you know, like, I. He's not any detailed way once you and Conan met, and it would just clicked right away. It was like, oh, Andy should be the side can. Yeah. But he was still sort of playing it. I think it sounds right idea. You know to talk to Robert. Yeah. There was to get him. Rob. Yeah. We'll Robert Robert was very encouraging to me. And I'm gonna be really Frank here for a second Robert was very encouraging to me early on about. Be as funny as you can be as much as you can be as funny as you can be and after about a month and a half or so he said take it back notch. And he said it's not because you're not being funny. You're being funny. I mean, I am a producer of television show on this particular show. And I understand like I can understand that I can understand that note. And it's a useful note. It's a necessary note, but as a performer, and is a person who's like growing his own like artistic persona on this kind of endeavor. It was like. Okay. You know, being clipped a little bit a little bit. But I mean, but that's not the nature of the beast. You know, and like you telling me not interrupt. That's true. You haven't said a thing in the last. I'm really scared. Never. Here's the difference. I didn't have an intermediate. I said it right to your fucking. Yes. He did. Yeah. I liked it. I was like. Let's check the list who's the alpha here. Hey, hey, alpha, Andy. No remote. I'm familiar on house. Plants remote started out. Very tough remote started Robert says to me the marathons being run a hand an idea you run the marathon. But because you're busy, and you don't like to run that much. You do it in segments over date. And I and I was able to and that was always great. Okay. Yeah. And I went and produced that peace and stopped in pizza places. And you know, like jog through a museum or something with the number on street clothes with it on. And so it started the first day. It's like, oh, he's going to be in the marathon guys. Dan, did it go? Yeah. Goes number day. I made even been like in a pedicab at one point. You know, just like it's like, it's funny. Like the third day. It's like just the premise. We still. So that was the first really kind of in the field piece that wasn't just a sketch somewhere building. And then after that, I don't I'm it may have been I went to the Super Bowl or size saw and the mardi gras. You went to mardi. I went to mardi gras. And that was that was all of these things were the striking thing about them was. There's no way to know how to do them. Right. There's no way to know. Like, there's no I went to film school. But they didn't teach you go out and shoot twenty hours of hours around thirty like in there where you helping edit them or Lutely, absolutely. It was then that was the that was the absolute brutality those early days. Yes. I would I'd go to the fuck in Arkansas state fair and come back with the with the footage and go right to the, you know. Right to the room. I would I would make accommodations for myself in that like I wouldn't stay till five in the morning idly too because I have to be on the fucking television. But it's still was like it was a grind. I'm really curious. I watched one I think you're at the Super Bowl, and you were doing live throughout the show. You're live at the still live at the Super Bowl. But then you'd throw to tape pieces that were really well edited. And like how did how did you do that like so you edited it probably at the facility at the Super Bowl during the morning or something? That those did not at. All right. Does. I did not edit, and I think what they did is that they went to the NBC affiliate probably beamed to New York. And right cut him. I think we were there the day before. Okay. Because you know, there's all that press shit roared. Right. The press, and we didn't do we did that. Yeah. Mardi gras. We went. The previous weekend and shot a bunch of shit. And then and then I came and did the show on I flew back did the show on Monday. Right. And then flew back to New Orleans to Monday night to be there for fat Tuesday. So I had been there all weekend flew back to show on Monday flew back to New Orleans on for the live section on Tuesday. And that was the how many hours do you think the shot for that one? I don't. It would be like it would probably be like. Minimum of fifteen. I know do you. Remember, if you were able to have fun at mardi gras this, really. No, no, no. I also like I. I don't get that up tight. I it's and it's it's a blessing. It's I don't like the word blessing because I'm not religious. But I don't I it's a blessing. Yeah. But I mean, I don't get that uptight. I don't I don't lock up, and I never had. And I don't well. I mean early on an improv I used to. But I think that that was what improv great for me is doing especially when I was doing a lot of improv. I was onstage for. Twelve hours a week without any idea what I was going to say and. So no, not really there. Weren't timid eating things like the one that. I will always remember when I really felt like I had no fucking idea. What to do here is you're going to go to this parade. You're gonna go to you know, like this this bar. You're going to go to this like, you know, booby contest or whatever. The fuck goes on more on right? And then and then like, and then you're gonna go you're going to go interview Little Richard in his hotel room. And then you're going to I went to fucking little Richard's hotel room to interview Little Richard about mardi gras with like bear. Like somebody like showed like one sheet of kind of researchers like Little, Richard. You know, he saying tutti fruity. Okay. Checkout that here don't. But he was it was it was a room full of like twelve relatives all male relatives. Very deferential with him run. Come in. We came in and said sat down in our extreme whiteness. Yeah. And and then he came out, and is one of the most strikingly bizarre individuals that you will see. Yes. Yes. Because first of all his face is gigantic. It's just has a, and I mean, I have a big head is a really big head that was made up in. Had lots of like really strikingly odd like colored makeup, and you and the way everyone the way everyone like reacts around if it's like an exotic unpredictable bird, you know. Right. And I think if I remember correctly he had on a long kind of like house, Cody thing, it was almost like a choir robe, then we sit down. I don't know what the fuck to f-. F-? I don't have a clue as to what? Colors that huge face. That's little fucking Richard. And you know, two months ago, I was on my mom's cow worrying worrying about having a week tables again to watch and the other good mardi gras story is Louis C K came down to produce the live version, and this is Ron ick. This is actually now it's kind of chilly. Really nice. Because we would show. Well, first of all we had and he was a local cameraman on on the on the balcony where the bourbon Orleans on a balcony you had hired a local get guy to shouldn't. Yeah. We had a local. Local guy shooting and he had yet a telephoto lens. And there's the showing the Tate of show. But I mean, lots of dick showing to you know. Nowadays. It's become very very. Yeah. Yeah. But so this this cameraman it'd be like we're going to lunch. I'm alright just shot Titi all fucking. All day long, and it was on the feed in Rockefeller Center. And everybody told me that Titi parade is on every television. Somebody saw Tom Brokaw treadmill watching our Titi. Saw in the gym just watch. The did not change the entire workup. He's never tried to catch. So any closer? We out of time. You know, what the people really love your old, Woodstock remote? Oh, mention that. Thank you. You went in ninety four. I did. I did. Yeah. That was I went my contribution was like I said I wanted to wear a suit. But it was so fucking hot that the most I could pull off was a sport coat because it was really bad. Yeah. And then it was Roberts idea too. To try and get bites at people's food, which I think is seen in a while where women showing their breasts that was they were they were they were. Nope. And then we did. We did Robert I at the same time came up with like, I got a slide down that mud hill. And I got an I've said this before I got poison Ivy from that. Oh, yes. The slide because I went at the bottom because right after that, I went I went back to visit my family, and I had this rash. All over my body's really all over the side of my torso, recite super itchy. And I went to mom's dermatologist news that's poison. I only place I could have gotten even rolling down any. Yeah. The other the other thing that I wish we had gotten on camera was because Jimmy vino was they're playing with John Sebastian of the Lovin spoonful. So she was are all right, RBM. And he was back. An and I was so 'cause then after I went in the mud, then we had the idea I should go interview the band's covered in mud, which is really after Jin Crosby, Stills Nash. But after after we're done that was that was our last thing because I'm covering mud, and I'm and I wish I had it on tape. But Jimmy found a garden hose and hosed me off like in the like in the in the cluster of where all like, you know, where like like right outside where cypress hills. Yeah. Like right in front of the cypress hills trailers of it's just me standing there being hosed off like a baby elephant. Yeah. Wow. Well, Andy, thank you. So I will definitely have you back. I'm gonna guess sometime in June. 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Busy Philipps

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

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Busy Philipps

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But but I don't WanNA connotation. White Shutters, tropical shutters tropical shutter. Yeah. Yeah they're tropical. Yeah that's what I had in my bedroom growing up or those exact shudders in. Arizona Yeah. As it's a little strange for me look at them right now I'm not even kidding lunatic reminds you of your yeah it's very evocative. It was like the thing that came with the House I guess we're those shudders and Houses in Arizona had those shutters. Yes. Now you're you're Zona. Correct. Yeah was born in Chicago outside. and. A bunch of family. They're still yeah and then we moved to Arizona afraid ads job when I was going into first grade. So what was at what? What is? What did he clear engineer? He's retired now. Yeah. Yeah. was he working like a nuclear power plant or powerplant? Oh? Wow Cool. He did like safety. Something I don't know. I always thought he was in the CIA kind of like nursing and he. So he worked in Arizona for years, he was a consultant and he worked and he got. He got you know station no not station transferred to Arizona to the to the power plant, and then there were several years like in my late. Late Pre teens, early teens I guess that he had to take jobs in other cities and so he was like he commuted. So he lived in like Salt Lake City and came back on the weekends he lived in. Look you lived in Kansas at one point he lived in. Michigan. He lived in Florida. and. He lived in Singapore I think he didn't come home every weekend. was that was that having kind of absent or? I. Think it was fine. I mean I think it was fine. My sister is already out of the house. She's older than me, and so it was just like me and my mom and I had a lot of freedom which maybe wasn't the best thing and I do think that like reentry was always difficult because I was as surly. Bitchy teenager and like my dad would be gone. The week for the whole week, and then he would come back on a Friday be like well wait where's she going Barbara what time what time are you going to be home and I'm like you can't tell me what to do Here. And I think he was tired. You know like he was really grumpy because he was tired because he was. Working so hard it's like one of those things I was saying to a friend of mine WHO's. I don't have that many fronts in their twenty S. Weird. If you did I agree but there are people that like make it. You know they like hang out with people that are way younger than them. Vampires that's trail there suckers. That's true. That's actually very true I think. But the girl that lives in my guest house. She's more like my little sister kind of. And she's twenty five. Kato Kaylin she's my she it well, sort of I mean she's I think it's better than that but I mean. You should really you should start. Kaylin you? Lived in my guest house for like nine years. Kato Kale He Kato Kaylin we all we were going to sell a television show based on. Our relationship of him living in our guest house because it was like years, it was pretty wild. And then he calmed down but so. Guest House now is a singer Songwriter and she's twenty, five and. was saying, I really feel like in your twenties in therapy it's all about how your parents like fucked you up and then you're starting in your late twenty s and then your early thirties it's all about you coming to the understanding that they were doing the best. They could with what they had men like you come to this understanding at the older you get about just how you know how we All are trying our hardest and and they all and parents have their own limitations and their own things that they're dealing with, and it never occurred to me like Oh wait. Maybe maybe this is exhausting for my father, maybe the easier thing would have been to uproot me and like move us all to Salt Lake City for two years move us you know but instead of uprooting our lives he like. Let us stay in one place and he sacrificed by like flying back and forth and back and forth and back and forth, and maybe he was like. Not chills dude because he was just fucking tire yeah. Yeah I think too. It's like it is. It's easy to be a crabby dad. It's really easy to be like you know dad like the grumpy dad is an archetype for a reason because you fall you know it's the same way like you know the mom. Yeah. The Nagy Mom that's always on You keep the house clean. It's like I get. You know I can be a Nagy Mom and Grumpy Dad, you know I. Love. All of that and I try not to be grumpy dead and I actually get in. It's one of the nicest things that my daughter does to me is she will say to me like. Like. You're not as bad as you used to be like. All right. Okay. That's good. Because that's you know like when you say you cut your parents some slack as they were doing the best that they could. Yes, that's true and yeah, you do go through that but then you gotTa 'cause I'm older than you. You get through that too and you're kind of like, yeah but he didn't really. Like Fight that hard. Automatically like they kind of gave up they're like, well, I got all these like like, yeah there's all this stuff that life is forced on me and it's created these personality traits in these kind of you know problem attic ways of dealing with things and fuck it. That's how I am. You know like the crust is formed I can't change I'm so interested in like generation all things like I think that that's very of our parents generation because even though you are a bit older than I am Indy I, think our parents are like probably around the same generation. 'cause my parents are born in forty three. Yeah. That's my mom was forty. My Dad I think was thirty seven. So yes, enough like really close really close. So they're like boomers but like almost your mom's a late bloomer rate when is the baby boomers and I, think she's a she's a early boomer because she was she born before the war. Yeah. Oh, wait wait. That's right. My parents did that's right that that's what I was trying to guarantee. Technically. boomers I guess they kind of fall in. Yeah. Are they are? nine, hundred, forty three. Yeah. To thousand nine, hundred, sixty s your parents are like. A. Little Bit. Older than technically baby boomers and my parents are a little bit older. They're like the very oldest of the boomers. But. It's also fascinating and then like gen access and all of our fucking. I luckily, because I saw somewhere that boomers end at sixty four and I was born in sixty six, I'm like. Do I get to be Jenex. Apparently. That makes me Gen-x. Yeah. So you're like the oldest JENEX and accidentally like the youngest geno really. Nine. Okay. Yeah, and it's over eighty. Yeah. Yeah. Right or eighty I think. So I think that's you know whatever it here what there's like at a certain point becomes very silly to like the assign like millennials are fighting with generation Z. and half the time I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. But I think that those things actually I think like it's really interesting when you look at it because I think that. You're the time in which you were raised and the cultural influences and the things that are happening in the world have a huge impact on what you how you react to the world and what you become and I think that like it is specific it's like birth order to is such a thing that like once you start looking at it, you're like, Oh, all oldest kids are like this. Oh, all the youngest kids are like this. You know and I, don't know there's just something to me. That's really comforting in. Looking to things that give some context behaviors of. An entire people well. I also think that we're we're wired to look for patterns right because it's comforting to us. It makes it seem like there's there's a rhyme or reason to this chaos. So you know it is kind of like Oh. Yeah. You know 'cause you can look at it and go. No there is a similarity between all the I kids that I know and all the middle kids that I know totally key, but they also can do there's a cut the commonality between all Sagittarius is that I? You know what I mean ran it can go over to things that then you're like, wait a minute depending on the month and day I was born at it forms my opinion. Well, there is it just you and your sister and your family and then so you're the baby the one that gets to act out and doesn't really fear consequences ever. Yeah. Pushing all the envelopes was was at you. Yeah. Yeah. I definitely like was an envelope pusher and it. Was a tough on your mom. Yeah, I think. So yeah, we have we had a very complicated relationship. I wrote a lot about in my book. Much to my parents loved that part. As they really are no. No, they like legit. Almost I had to change a whole bunch of stuff and I, they were like. Basically didn't want to talk to me was terrible. It's hard. It's hard but I gave it to them like I am close with them and I gave it to that I gave the. Chapters to them before it was finalized before it was like. Out like, I know people that don't let their families or anybody read it until it's like. Well, this is what it is you go. And I just wanted to. Do a different thing because I was I was nervous and so i. i, let them read it. Ahead of time when I was in the editing process still and doing my line at and so I took I took some notes of theirs and then I explain to them why I was keeping other things in it was really It was a little tricky and then my mom, my mom had a really hard time and didn't WanNa read the book didn't WanNa, read it did. told. Her. About some of the things that I wrote about and she just was like I, don't think I can handle it. I don't want to read it and I was like, wow. Okay it's. Cool to center this about yourself but like But. You know I would appreciate if you read it and then my dad read it first and then she. Like, texted me your dad read the book and he he he really enjoyed it and I was like, okay and then she's still haven't read it and then I just got this text from her. Like two months later that was like I read your book it's a very good book. And that was it and I put that as a quote on the back cover of. PUCK. Very Good Buck Yeah. It's I do think that because. Well Sarah. My ex wife is she she wrote a memoir and I. Witnessed her going through. A very similar sort of situation. And she often would encourage me like you should write something like that. You've had so much happening. You should yeah and I just don't want to have that issue I don't WanNa. Like I just I'm too. I just I don't want. I don't want to have that discussion with my mother or my father just. And I am this part of the kind of understands it because. You know A. I'm having done this for a living. This stuff we're living you get used to read and shit about yourself that you don't like dry like and they don't have any experience with you know what I mean like nobody in my family has read. Reviews about how? untalented they are like. Honestly such a good point. Yeah. It was also kind of my sisters point to me. She was like you chose this. I didn't yes and like in I don't I didn't I don't want this like I don't want this and you know I was like, okay point taken however sell. Over I had a guy. Yeah, I signed the contract got to write the book. I just feel like, yeah, I mean and I did I did do work to try to make it a little bit better for them which I think I did. You know and it was a bummer in a Lotta ways to me but whatever fine. Yeah. But the really well received. Yeah. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. No I was glad. I got I did I might write another one at some point I just don't know. Yeah I just don't know you should write a book though Andy You could write it and just hold onto it for a while you mean until everybody dies. Yes. That's what you mean. So that your idea I mean, you know we I do think that if my grandmother had still been alive the a Pr- I probably wouldn't have been able. PUT The book into the world the way you the way that I did you know? But. I knew that my mom and I had to say honestly so so yes. So my mom had a really hard time with that and I know that she was really nervous about some of the stuff that I that I talk about in the book. In terms of lake? People. She knows like in the world you know and you know because it's like, I, deal with some trauma and some tough things. Abortion my abortion and all this stuff. I will say though she and my dad were in Chicago when I was doing my I did a very truncated book tour and they're in Chicago when I was doing my book tour visiting their family and friends and so they came to the they came to the auditorium it was like seven hundred people or something you know and and a big huge thing. and. The woman who was interviewing me started and I started to answer my mom from the front row is like well, that Alad happening. and. Basically. Like like took the Mike. And I was I was like horrified but also like this is my fucking life and it's been my life my entire. Act Moment that my brother is demonstrating in this crowd of seven. So So I was like well, this is it like this? The perfect. There you go. Here you go mom and take the stage and she did and like I have to say I felt like and it was really it was actually really fun like it was weird and fun and I was like you can sit down what? Okay and then she'd get back up and then you know. I can only imagine how fantastic was for the audience well, I think people really enjoyed that but I think what ended up happening Was that she really? Came to an understanding about like the Catharsis of being able. For both sides like the Catharsis of being able to like share on a bigger level than we ever have before a and then be you know at the end of the book. Tour the questioning and They open it up to the audience, and there were multiple people including like some teens. Older, teen people that were just expressing how much my openness online or what what I. Me Sharing. My life has meant to them. And I think she just kind of saw firsthand as opposed to like just some comments on instagram or whatever like real people who are like I had a really hard time and I connected with your instagram or whatever you really changed the way? I. Think she in that night like it shifted from her. From, the book being something she was sort of dreading and kind of upset about. Her seeing it as as a positive thing. When I mean? Do you think that seeking out that Catharsis. In like like I have to tell the story and a half to be who I am Because I you do it in a way that is very Just conversational like and there's no there's no artifice like you're not really you are yourself and there's nothing to hide whereas I do think some people do it. They serve themselves up for content in a way that Alec. Well that's become a thing and it's not, but it's like it's it's not real. It's like we're serving up there. Supposedly they're making air quotes, real selves, but it's a bullshit real sell. But that's also like that like that cultivating authenticity idea has really become a thing in the last several years. And I think that. We're in a really tricky time like in terms of identity and what? It means and how you put yourself into the world for public consumption whether you have like ten followers or ten million followers and. You know I think one thing that I had going in my favor before. I. Took my life to Ram was that I had been. Burying. Degrees of famous for. Fifteen years or something you know he'd been an actor. Like worked in the entertainment space for so long and. Had Been. kind of like seen it all and was had been so much therapy, and so it was really self aware and like. Really I'm just a person that is aware of boundaries. And and I think that gets missing sometimes in that like. Attempt for authenticity from people is not. Fully understanding. Boundaries or why you're doing thing like y you're sharing a thing or what it means for you to be sharing that thing and where you come from in your own even fucking privilege. You know what? Like I'm never I'm never without. The awareness of me? Busy Phillips like a privileged white lady WHO's lived a pretty Privileged life. Without, new allowed stuff and Ray living and yeah. So. And you know and. And yet I struggle. We you know and like and I think that I don't know I think that that's all I. think that's all part of it. I think like. A LOT OF TIMES In the. Desire for connection people sort of like. Skip over the part where they like do the work. To figure out why it is that they need connection. Yeah. I think you're absolutely right. I think that yeah, I think that they're not. It's just it's just they aren't they need, and so they sort of. act in a way that. Seems to service that need but it usually. For people that are doing it in an unexamined way I think just creates more need. An confusion and it's like confused it's confusing it's confused. So. It's like when you see the like influence sir, you know like. I don't know. You know there was a lot during I think early pandemic and. You know people who were just very unaware of like. The fact that like. Taking off for the Hamptons in the middle of the pandemic and posting about it online might not be the greatest way to ingratiate yourself to your all of your fans who are like struggling to figure out if they still have a job like, how are they GonNa? You know what? I mean I think there's a certain level. Where people lose sight of what everyone else is going through? Like I I don't know you don't come. You don't come from money, right? No, no me neither I mean not. We. Yeah. We were fine and and and lived a life and like some Christmases were better than others but no I. I had to pay my way through school and I had to I had to work. So I had money in my pocket. I had a job from when I was like sixteen years old. I worked in restaurants I. Babysat I was a nanny like, i. did all kinds of things and then yeah, I was lucky to like get freaks and Geeks when I was in college and I left school but you know i. You know I truly. You know my parents never helped me. Past the age of nineteen. Did. They did they did pay for my school by paid for my car insurance and like my all any. Anyway. My point being that I think sometimes I mean I am this is like beyond my wildest dreams like this closet that I'm sitting in. You know whatever? Cave Sachs who was one of the producers on freaks and Geeks had He's like one of those people that. Just. Take. So many photos like he was like a person with a camera phone before camera funds existed like he always had a like a around his neck and a video camera with him and he documented. So much of that time and he has this hilarious like. Camcorder video of me and my dirty ninety, two Honda civic hatchback like cleaning it out with water bottles and like just it was just gross and seven eleven, Coffee Cups and. And I was giving him like a tour of my car, and then I was like you know maybe someday maybe someday, I'll be driving a BMW probably not though like just like I couldn't even imagine it you. Think I never lose sight of that thing. and. I think that some people do I think some people it's easy for them to be like. Well, this is my life. Now it's always going to be like this, right? Right Yeah and this is what I deserve this. You know I'm finally where I should be you know that kind of thing. Yeah. Now when you when went instagram started and you you know got on board with it. You. Don't actually get at first. I was like, what is this? I don't understand. But then, but you did and I mean, and it's not like you know you know this and articles have been written about like what are unique instagram present you were and how you were kind of like. You became everybody's friend. You know like in that in that you were so. Just. Just you were it was it was not there was didn't seem to be anything other than here's me. I like to share I. Like to talk to people. Here's me. And were was that just something that you did? Did you know like that? Like. Did you? Did you like the good and bad of what you were getting. No. No, and I never I didn't even consider it because I also when I. started. Doing the instagram stories and. I. I I didn't have that many. Many people were following me. You know it wasn't like. It wasn't like I had this huge fan base. You know I've been on TV since I was like a kid. It wasn't. It just wasn't. That's not. That's just not accurate what my experience was like I. I it was like mostly my I thought my. Actual. Friends. And some fans that like. We liked me from Cougar town or something for geeks and. And I think that I was at just a place in my life. Is A relatable place for many many women where I was just kind of feeling very lonely. I was just like lonely and my marriage only of the mom lonely at work like feeling kind of unfulfilled. In my career even though I had all this success but it just felt like what the fuck isn't even does it. I'm still struggling to find the next thing and it still feels like I'm. Never. Going to be good enough and I'll never be enough and like And so. Sort of turning to. Be A best. Turning to these, you know to the face lows. Sitter your your followers the abyss now. It's hilarious because in an not an abyss, but it is kind of like. It's this big open void where you know somebody's out there but it might be the ocean but you don't you don't exactly know who oh. And you just I don't know I just was sort of looking for. Something I was looking for something. Yeah. I don't know if it was like necessarily validation think it was just be seen and to be heard and to be seen for who I truly feel like I am as opposed to any sort of thing that has ever been put on me in an article written about me or an interview that I've given or you know ten minutes at when you met me at a party. You know I just wanted to be a more. Holistic Accurate representation of me. Yeah, you've always been very good at that. You've always been very good at presenting an authentic version of yourself and there doesn't. Seem to be any kind of. Calculation behind it it just yeah. No I didn't never religion with. Yeah. Thanks. That's for sure. No, but I mean but why do you think that you? You know like 'cause there's so many people I mean right now like I'm I'm. Working online like trying to get people to do different sort of like. Sign up his poll workers and stuff. So I'm I'm contacting a lot of people on on twitter and on Instagram who have big followings and Trying to get them to. You know what did they call it to amplify things boost. Yes, signal boost And so but you know there are some people that are like. That I am have been talking during like I. Really Don't do that where it's like the just to say, Hey, you can be a poll worker or hey, you can register to vote and they're just so. They're so wall. Another lamb and yeah I, mean, why do you think that that you you're not like that why and why do you think that you're just so comfortable because People aren't comfortable being themselves now I mean and especially in the entertainment industry like. Fashion that people get into where they get to pretend that there's somebody else for two hours a day. I don't know I mean for. I think it's like a bunch of different factors at this point. Historically speaking I think if you're a person who's lake. Not Interested in using your sizable platform to help. Amplify good. Causes and things you're just a fucking narcissistic asshole. and I also think like. You're wrong I also, wrong. Because they. Just don't give a shit. They just don't really care about the world. Yeah took Astle, right? Right yeah. I mean but but it's Yeah, it's crazy I mean to me it's crazy. But even like even if the thought was that it could it could somehow negatively affect you workwise feel like I'm sort of living proof that. Talking about I mean truly. Vices issues that our country deals with abortion and women's health care. You know I make so much money with brands both on instagram. But like you know I do commercials for brands I have be essentially a commercial actor, this point which I love like I actually really I have no problem selling people. Things. If I like thing I'm like that's just what this is and like for years, commercials have supported artists and like this is just a direct line. So I'm I'm like happy to do it and I really have mostly only had great experiences with Britain's that I've worked with. Well, I always anybody any actor that gets like that gets weird about that or like, Oh, I can't you know. Not. Everybody's like you're just you don't think you're in sales like well, that's right now you're in sales whether you like it or not, and so like. So the sales just happens to be, for Wrigley's gum this instead instead of all the things that you're only selling passively by being on television. Yeah anyone any actor his doing any kind of like any television where you're you are a part of selling the aesthetic. What you're that's essentially what you're doing is you're creating the content that goes in between the ADS. Yes. So for me, it's never been like a moral dilemma of whether or not I wanted to. Partner with with advertisers especially when they started coming directly to me and I was using my instagram and that way. And it was just a question of like making sure that the brands that I was partnering with were things that I liked her believed in or whatever. There's blood diamonds, things like that, right? A lot of times they'll grow in like a lot of times I'll ask and they'll throw in a charity component l. like Oh this kid's brand like well, yeah I'll do this post. Will you donate? A bunch of your toothbrushes to baby to baby. So the organization I work with here. Yeah. Sure. We'll donate fifteen hundred toothbrushes. Okay. Great. You know click or money you know like a donation to the charity whatever Being after I, started really. Talked about my abortion openly on my show and it wasn't even a question to me because of what was happening in the country and the you know these extreme abortion bands that were sort of being pushed through with the hopes of getting these things to the new supreme, court and getting chipping away at Roe and. And I and I know I know that there are people that would think Well. That's career suicide and working with you know these big brands that I got the old navy commercial after that. I Ole who I have a skin care deal with Ole and I do commercials for them and did the super bowl commercial last year. I remember they I mean, they legitimately said the brand is is really Is Is really supportive of your activism. For, women's reproductive rights and they and they love that you have taken such a stand and so I guess I feel like. It hasn't slowed down my opportunities in terms of brands at all. So then I'm like. So, what are these people afraid of like these people that you're contacting? Do you know what I mean like? Are you afraid of alienating like somebody who? What I believe in white supremacy believes that women shouldn't I got. A lot of people just the. I'm I'm right there with you and I you know because people will say because. I mean I've never been shy about be about. Speaking out to me, it's like to call it. Politics is weird. Is just like no you mean, you mean like, yeah, no women's bodies should be their choice. That like like what? What do I get to say? Why do I get any say in that in that deal? Like, why am I yeah Gal Gay, people should get married who gives a shit? Yeah. I mean I mean who gives a shit but yeah, you should give us shit. You know I mean it's really important but also it's like, why would you fight against that? What? You know and Really, interesting article I just sent it to someone else. That's from twenty thirteen politico article about. Like the real origins of the anti abortion. Evangelical Right Movement, Yeah Jerry Falwell and how he was just essentially. Trying to like get his racist agenda Yeah like racism became unpopular and ugly. So they're like, well, we can now let let's switch over to abortion. You know that's cracked that fired early or Shen. Yes. Crazy it is so that they could get litter like their candidates in there and elected who were also you know. Upholding Racist Agendas Yeah? I mean it really. GETS DOWN TO FUNDRAISE IT also gets down to like money like. anti-black stuff used to be a big moneymaker for them, and then they started to get like a little too hot that. It's just too hot for us. So let's go over to abortion and then get people riled up about that, and then that becomes a money maker you know like. Like the fucking wall you know. People are giving money to the wall people are on psych. You're being. Fleeced. Ya I mean, you might as well be giving it to a televangelist because it's it's essentially a the. Yeah. These guys are. Yeah. It's all like the same idea of of. Of you know. Better better than you know better than the people on the other side of the wall, better than the people who aren't in Jesus better than you know. Man We should fix things you and I know here's an MD is that we're trying we're trying we're trying in ways both small and medium. And and that it doesn't you can't not one person can do all of the things like we all have to do all of the things. The other thing that I've had these crazy conversations with people to like. Well, I sort of have my issue that I really focus on I'm like. Okay I see, but also you can have many issues. On and you don't just have to have one issue and. It is weird because I've had conversations with like publicists and people who help. Guide, famous people's careers or whatever, and I know and I know that that's like a common feeling like well, she really does so much work with operations. Smile. So she's not going to be able to support women's right to like what, what are you talking about? These things going to all exist concurrently. That's ridiculous. It's ridiculous because also like just I know and I know as a person who gets asked to do all sorts of things like an idea I get so many asks point for so many things and I do know that there is. A certain level of prioritizing that you want to be able to do and like for me. You know I I know which things I sort of like. Well, I don't know if we need to post about the local animal charity today, you know what I mean but. Bless donation. How about that? I'm the. I'm the same way I. Kind of you know I have a dog I love my dog but like I could that fired up. About a rescue dog I encouraged that but a kink to fired up about that one 'cause I feel like it's hard as a lot of people stuff I there's a lot of people right now especially like, yeah. I. Just like. I don't know what America are we living like plus them let them take care of it because then I can not have to worry too much about the animal stuff. You know what I mean. My best friend is like her whole thing I'm like, yeah, I feel like we're covering. Exactly you're gotTa, I'll give her I'll do I'll I'll give them money give her organization money. Hello there I'm rory Scoville I'm comedian. I'm an actor but most importantly I'm a dad and I'll tell you what as a father? It is my sworn duty to tell you about my new show with team Coco called. 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Where where are you going now I don't mean now after this I mean like, what where do you WanNa do with your with your life now are you got any plans just kind of keep going as you doing? Now. Plans. All. The plans out the window now I mean I guess. Now, I've got plans I'm open I'm open to being flexible and. In a way that I never I think that this past six months has been fucking wild. And obviously and I had a lot of plans. I've always been a person with like so many plans and have always been a person who's been able to. Like sort of not acknowledge where I'm at. Presently because I'm like, but in I'm GONNA there. Then everything. Like once. Writings going to be. Great. Everything's GonNa be great and I've lived that way for a really long time and I think the the pandemic and the shutdown was a pretty. Like rocking experience for me and even though I've been in therapy forever and I. Feel like I had done all this work I realized that like. Just, sitting in. The uncertain present was. Really untenable for me for many reasons and I had to like. The fucking face that. I can think of a different way to be and and away to like. Be Look around and. Determine what I? AM So grateful for what I can lake, how I can continue that and what what moving forward even looks like or what it's going to be career. Wise. But also just like personally and I think it's caused a lot of people that have to have that. That thing like evaluation. Because we don't standstill ever. So we're doing this gas. Yeah. Yeah. So, we're doing podcast and. No A late night show I want to talk about that just. Said for a second but I want to talk about per second but I mean is that something you want to? Pursue that more like something like that or was it kind of you dip do what you dip Dow? No. I really loved it and I loved doing it actually really fun unique show. Yeah. Thanks and I feel like I really made something that was For my people know and not for anyone else really and I think that's rare. You know I think so much is made for a very specific audience that. Looks and acts and is sort of the same but. I mean in terms of like network television cable and stuff but. I loved it and I think it was really creatively and sort of like cult Shirley successful Even though it was canceled by the Cable Network E. They must. I mean who cares even what is a you know? It's It's all silly. You know none of it means anything but. But I really did. But I really do think that representation means something I really do think diversity of voices immune something and I don't even know if I'm like that person unity mean I'm not you truckin tries the weight I'm just a white lady. Yeah. But you not really hard with that show specifically and it didn't know unnoticed and I do think that that's That's like the like. What are we going to do about the situation we have to try like that's an yeah. Visibly actually trying you know yeah, we were and I think we did a really great job and I am really super proud of the show and you know Casey and I had a lot of. Things that we were putting together and and looking to the future of what entertainment is and how it's where it's put out and how it's who it's put out for her and all those things, and we'd been working for many months putting this pulling this project together and we were actually we'd sold the podcast. We're doing the podcast about that and then. And we'd recorded like a bunch of stuff. About the about the talk show going away. About about the talk show going way, and then the next thing that we were putting together after. Oh I see like because we both had sort of like a you know. Like a come to Jesus moment where we took. Stock of the landscape of what TV and streaming and what the future could look like possibly and we. Just came up with this idea we were working with this media company and we're building this whole thing and it's not even worth talking about because it's all gone away the pandemic and when that happened. And we and we and we had sold the PODCAST AS Following journey as we were building this thing and we were excited that we might be able to announce something at south by southwest, and then like everything stopped you know and. The world stopped. Casey and I stopped I personally stopped I had no my kids are little. So I have I had a kid in first grade and one in fifth grade we had to finish their school year and I was like I can't. I can't even focus on what the says so. Or what it could be your how even salvage or whatever. So we just Kinda like scrapped it. And then couple months in June, I guess. A few months later, our gas was supposed to launch I think in March march April, April, maybe apron and We scrapped the whole thing and then in June I was like, why don't we just like lean into this moment I don't know what exactly it is but like let's See Shinchiro wants and she was a writer Ceantierre Jackson was right or not busy tonight. Let's Shinjiro wants to join US I felt like there were so many. Conversations that I was having with my friends who are black that were. Important. And then also just like that, their point of view. was something that was needed. In all in all discussions, discussions of pop culture discussions of. Whatever the fuck yeah politics and certainly like. You know fast. Fast. Everything? Yeah. Why not? clothing but so interiors like, yeah I'm down that would be fun and we can talk to people about like pivots that their lives have taken and unexpected. You know sort of derailments in dreams or plans and how it worked out for Moore maybe it didn't work out for them but they learned something and. So yeah, we like it ended up being kind of the best. Case scenario because I do feel like it's really helpful in this moment right now. So people are having to deal with these pivot. So many people have been furloughed I laid off so many people have to change careers tirelessly like their jobs just don't exist anymore. And? You know as a country I think we're facing a real pivot moment and we can like do one of two things we can like be fearful and sort of cling to an old bad way that wasn't servicing everyone or you can like lean into the pivot and say, okay, this is going to be an unknown but you know what? I'm GonNa just be enthusiastic and try to help the pivot along and yeah and I hope the hope for the bat yeah. Yeah, that's what happened and that and that, and that is your podcast now and it's called It's called I'm trying is that the sheriff? Yeah. No, it's called busy Phillips is doing her doing her best. And I'm sorry I, don't I, don't have it in front of me. Why would you have it in front of you? Everything's too difficult and you know. We've known for a long time. Just, ask me what it is. There you go and it's with Casey. Saint. Joe Saint, John's and. Saint. John Deere a janitor then injection and we've talked to some really great people. I mean rose. Rosie O'Donnell interview is like one of my favorites. She's like kind of a hero of mine and Julie. was has been put through the ringer. As publicly and you know she's still as just and she's always just been a person that's wanted to put good into the world and I I really admire her. Strength and anyways. So that was a great conversation We have a conversation with amber ruffin coming up who got a late night show up. He cocked coming out and exciting to we talked to Michelle Kwan the Olympic vigors. EISER figures are who now works in Politics Yeah and works for the Biden Harris Campaign. Danny McBride and well. Y- I've kept you long enough. We have things to go. Do we get is that three questions did you came from? You're going? We talked about that and now there's the would've you learned. That's the third one. That's what you've got to answer now. Yeah well, I learned that. There is a time for. Standing still a time for movement. That's still laugh after the big. Loophole statement. It's supposed to be very profound and series I mean I don't know how. Does. Sometimes you'll get to a point where you're like I can't stand still anymore. Yeah and you're going to have to just figure out a way to move forward. Yeah. May Not be the way you thought. Yeah but. You gotTA. Do you just have to put one? The only way you can do is just one foot in front of the other until until it feels. Until you figure it out sister I know. Yeah I. Agree that Yeah Yeah. We'll also but going ignore the standing still place 'cause a lot of things happened in the standing still place where you're able to really confront some shit that you got to confront and like. That's big. A person that's always moving forward and never standing still you might miss something. Yeah and that becomes running. You know that becomes running away. Yeah and be you know Oh Yeah for sure. What are you running from? Yeah. GotTa figure that out Yeah Yeah I guess you know don't be scared to. That's the other one. Don't be scared Oh you can't let fear control. Yeah. Your your your own friend. So why these narrative you get in there and fairground fear based decision making has never benefited. Anyone you literally in the history of of the world and mankind yeah we do the research we haven't but I guarantee you that fear based decision making has never been beneficial, right? Except in a bear attack. I bet that's not fair based I. Bet that survival based. All right yeah you're probably right? Yeah. All right. Okay. I'll give that to you. All right. We'll busy. Thank you so much again for for for doing this with me. Thanks for having me. Good look on everything else. Thank. All right and Anita. We all do we all do And tune in next time for the three questions when I will talk to somebody probably not as interesting but you know with. A Bait. The three questions with Andy. Richter is a team COCO annual production. It's produced by me Kevin Bartelt executive produced by Adam Saxon and Jeff Ross Team Coco and Chris Bannon and Colin Anderson Eddie Lov. Our supervising producer as Aaron Blair associate produced by Gen samples and a high and engineered by will becton and if you haven't already make sure to rate and review the three questions with Andy Richter, on Apple podcasts. 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"Seven eleven is open. Twenty four seven three hundred sixty five days a year because they believe in one upping ten all of your favorites in store or delivered right to your door. Coffee snacks more coffee. Seven eleven ticket to eleven Hey everybody is another episode of the three questions with andy richter and i very happy to be talking to my friend. Yvette nicole brown. The emmy nominated yvette. nicole brown. How how about that andy. First of all. I am overjoyed to be here with you. I've missed your sweet little face skin. See i'm looking at it right now and i missed it. I can't believe him emmy nominated. I don't know. I can't believe it because it's it's in black lady. Scott show was guest bought. You did. And i can't imagine that you go it. Because i mean i've done a million guest spots and you don't think oh this is going to get me an emmy nominee never. Yeah and was it a surprise when you got the still surprised today. It's been too and i'm still like was this emmy now. I'm like okay talking about funny. I know i did not go into it going. This is this is going to be the one you know. I knew that it was funny. But listen we. We're journeymen actors. We've been a lot of shows where parts were funny or you know. And and it's been crickets. So i know and it's an listen. It's a small appearance i did. Two episodes edited played the same character for two seasons back to back. And i think my sketches four minutes long so it's surrounded by so many other talented people sketches. Did i think no. I never thought they picked me out of the bunch ever. This is yeah ridiculous a great way. Well fantastic congratulations. And i hope you. I hope you get it. listen. I can't even dream that big but that would be an even bigger surprise right. Well it's also to outline. I can't say nobody. But i certainly did not think when i started to do this for a living and yes and i will also get trophies. Never it's it's like the health fix about that. And then there's this weird and i've always said like the fact that they give awards in this stuff is the weird thing about this to me and it's from having gone. It's from having been on the conan show for so many years getting nominated for writing almost every year for a number of years we got nominated for writing and then we would go with. Everybody would get on a plane and fly to new york and we'd have this fun weekend and it would be fun but then you'd sit there and you'd find yourself like you know what i kind of want to win this and then we never did it after i had after i left the show. But it always struck me that like in a business that is so centered on rejection like and that and that you spend like first of all to even be in that room. You're a winner. you're working you're doing this. And that makes you such a slim percentage of the people that think of themselves as actors so we all put ourselves we get past the actual rejection very all been accepted so we put ourselves into this room and we dress up fancy yes we do for all of us but one of us to feel that again again and again. Yeah so it's like you've got this category people at your in your all winners. You're all making a living yet. Only one of you gets to feel good one the rest of you. They rejected me again. And you're walking in knowing full. Well that the odds are not in your favor. You're i mean it's not a fifty fifty one in five or one in six chance you and there's so many factors that have to line up and that's why i say don't even think about the win like i'm not even thinking about the wind like i. I am so excited that i got recognized by my peers that to actually win with almost maybe make my heart explode. I style right. Because i'm so in the gosh they saw me. It's like that because i think every performer. Don't we do this because we at some point in our childhood we just wanted to be seen like we and not even from the eagles space of look at me. Look at me. But just i'm here i exist. Yeah i'm here to and so once you're in the business and look i'm twenty some years into this right. Yeah and you go year after year and you're doing work and no one in that realm has ever said that you were one of the best this year in that section. Yeah you kinda just go. Because i've been jokingly say like. I think there's people that take that that are in that lane would soon as they open their mouth. They will be awarded every time there's a chance and then there's others who are just super duper excited that they get to do this for a living and i've always been one of those. Oh gosh i can do this for a living. This is so great. So i never even thought about what the people in other lane were doing. And now andy. Richter the amount of fashion and prep lambing and covent go into getting ready for an award season. These people been. They've been working very hard. Yeah award winning and nominated folks have been working very hard for many years. I didn't have to do any of this stuff to. Yeah that's i hear. I mean when television two different world too because like a friend of mine was once in oscar contention and was sort of you might get a nomination for this and then there's this whole season of going to dinners and meeting people and it's going to panel senate's job just like oh my gosh you don't. That's not what you come into this thinking. June and i don't think the wise people are are clamoring for that. It's another listen. There are people that are super extroverts and very fashion forward fashion-conscious right competitive to right. I'm neither neither none of those things. You're not competitive. I'm not a fashion plate and I'm not an extrovert. So everything about going to places to get attention so that someone could choose. You is so foreign to me. Even even the campaigning that i found out later goes into even getting a nomination. I didn't know anything about. I didn't know that people were going to different events to meet certain people in the peer group so that they could get in. I didn't know all that was happening. In other reason why to get the nomination knowing i didn't campaign for anything aside from saying hey guys on this ballot would five hundred other people. You liked what i did. I'd love. I love to be considered. But i didn't call anybody going era shaking hands. I just did my work and and went on with my life. So there's to this. I don't know if up. I think the way that you did it to make it more fun you know. It doesn't seem as calculated. It seems more like a like a gift. You know rather rather than finagle. Now it's a. It's a wonderful gift in a wonderful surprising. I'm very grateful and humbled by at all. How much you're of of that humility do you think is is midwestern is all of it. It's i was just talking to a home during a press day to day From my movie Movie that's out in some other emmy thing and all this. I'm talking to a lot of people. Condensed on on today and talked to a hometown outlet from cleveland. And we talked about the under under dog spirit of cleveland. And what midwestern. What a what a midwestern upbringing breeds and people. And i feel like mid westerners are scrappy. I feel like we're we're hopeful. Feel like we're kind I think there's a humility that comes. That's bredon us from the winters. I think the winters make humble because no matter who you think you are or where you think. You're going the wrong snowstorm on the wrong morning. We'll up in everything you have plans to if you can't find a way to get around who you think you are. Yes you you. You know whether it's humbling. Whether is whether or not elisa or so. I think it's the snow that makes kinder people. Yeah i also think to the thing that. I like about midwestern nece. Because they're not all great like some sort of you know there's also sort of this humility that is covering up like intense judgment. You know what i mean like. It's like on the surface. Everybody's sort of like kind and humble and assuming but there's always like oh my god get a lot of that. You know what that usually comes from humility to right. We're using saying good alone at that at that guy at the peacock was shredded and act like they're special because we're not those types of people we don't shine a light on ourselves or we don't do the look over here so when somebody's crowing around you kind of get this guy. He didn't mean it's still part of the humble spirit. I heard about it in in new zealand. But i think it's an australia thing. And they call it and it's they they think of it as being very ozzy new zealand they call it tall poppy syndrome. Which is that if you grow poppies in your garden and you want them all to be the same level if any of them grow up too high you cut their heads off lonzo. It's like that's the idea that if anybody gets too big for their britches and new zealand. They got to cut them down. Because you know it's i think that's part of ireland too. I just spent three months in ireland. And i saw this thing on twitter. That said never never tried to be fashionable in ireland. You see that. There's an entire f- thread of people talking about comments that alert when they tried to do something unique in different in everybody in ireland. Now get a load of this. Got yes i think it's they're scrappy. You know. i think that is part of it. Yeah yeah. I think i saw because like somebody said. They wore a yellow puffer jacket. And somebody said right right when they walk in the door. Who are you tinky or lala cheeky. Way you're lally. Somebody chimed in and said hey guys be nice to him. I've got one of those at home. It's around my water heater. The whole the whole turn it on the guys were just in yellow puffer. so you're from ohio cleveland. Yeah yeah and how long how up until like what age were you in ohio. I was in ohio. Until i was twenty. Three came right came out to la right after college and that was for acting right. Yeah i really came out to california to seeing. I started as a singer. Had a worker deal with motown when i was a teenager i was signed by Michael bevan's of belva devoe new edition. He had a record label with motown call ten and he had an a group of talents called each family. Boys to men was in there and We did a video and I thought i was gonna be the next somebody. Yeah and i moved out to. La after college to chase men music dreams and it just didn't work out so is acting. Yeah that's yeah that's that's not a great fallback for music. That's not even yes. I know and and listen. God protects the the dumb and dumber. You know what i like. I moved out here with with a place to stay for three days. Yeah this is. This is the the hubris and not even hubris but the naievety of a young person from the midwest like. I just felt sure you can go at three days is enough time to find a place to my head put my things know and thankfully the lord stepped in and i did find a friend of mine. My friends from high school. Her mother had just moved out here and had like a single apartment in pasadena and on day to call everybody back home. Does anybody know anybody in. La that'll let me stay with them and And i got to my friend. Diana her mom let me stay with her for. I think three months stay on her on her love seat in her single awhile. But but that's those those times though. Andy richter are the times that i look back on like those. Were the good days because you you. You didn't have anything. I was on the bus i. I didn't have a pot to piss in and a window to throw it out. No money was starving. All the time never had food. But i would just get up every morning and walked down. Colorado boulevard is when it was just being built up a lot of the stores were just going in and it was just becoming this amazing street that it is now and i would just walk and look in windows and dream of i one day. I'm going to be able to buy that body butter in the window. one day. i'm going to be able to go into the ice cream store because it was like a thirty one flavors on the corner. And i'm like i'm going there and i'm going to get i'm going to get a scoop. Everything just jason which one i like like i would just dream. I couldn't even afford to go to the movies. So i will walk by the marquee and just go man. I bet that brad pitt movie is great. I'm gonna see a one day on. Dvd you literally was that that low down in society standards but my spirit was buoyant. And just move great. Things were coming I wanna get. What was your childhood like in in in ohio. Was it you're in east cleveland. And warrenville what is east cleveland compared to just regular old cleveland leland cleveland's the hood is the you know is a little rough and tumble still good people. Just maybe not. It's not a suburb. Let's say i got in fact. There's parts that the streets. I grew up on sadly every every other house is now torn down or to be. You know it's really in need of A refurbishing and. I hope that it's coming. I hope that That people that grew up on those streets will may be moved back or by their family home and rehab it. You know so. Yeah so it was it was. It was a lovely place to grow up but it was not the suburbs. I was a single mom. Raised me my brother. My mom and dad divorced when i was one years old. I think so. My dad was always in my life. He just was never in the house with us. You know so. He was nearby. Oh yeah he lived my dad the whole time. I was growing up. He never lived further than ten minutes from us. He always ought to make sure he was close enough. Where if we ever needed him he could get to us. That's really important design. I know you know being divorced. Dad myself yelm. Staying within ten minutes of where my kids live I know so many divorced ads that don't do that. they think. Well now i can go. And i I don't understand it. i don't even know. I don't you know my my dad lived four hours away and i only twice a year and i put myself in those shoes and i'm like valid for hours away from my kids out of whatever necessity. Whatever reason there was. I think i might have seen. I might see them more than twice a year. I think knowing demand that you are. I think i don't know. But i don't you know that's a whole different story but it's a real one. I you know my dad. I found out years later. When i when i actually went home. 'cause i i'm caregiver so he lives with me in la. But when i went back to ohio to get them and pack them up. I've found out from him for the first time you know. I found out how i asked him why. He chose to live in the apartments that he lived in my entire life. My dad lived in apartments that were really small and cramped and you know not necessarily in the nicest building and he was always a man that was well dressed and took care of himself but he just his apartments never seemed to match who he was and where he wasn't his life and i asked him why and he said i lived well below my means so if you guys ever needed anything i would have. I would have it for you. So he sacrificed his living space so his quality of living was sacrificed. So that if if by chance we needed something for school or needed something wanted to take a field trip or something that he could provide that and he did not get a nicer apartment into me and my brother both graduated from college. Oh was the first time he lived in a place where he he lives someplace that was worthy of the wonderful man that he is and he helped you throughout college. I'd take it. Yeah i i. We didn't have a lot of money. So i had scholarships had grants. I had I worked. I've had a job every ever since i was fifteen and a half so I i worked. I had a job all through college and my dad. Would he would pay for my books or he would help with my tuition. Thank god was paid for my scholarships but he would help with any any extra stuff that i needed. That my job in the pell grants and all that didn't cover so yeah and and you know. My first car i got was a was a beat up. I think it was like ten years ten or so years old. When i got it but my dad i was working at a record store and my i remember my dad driving up in this beat up. Little nissan sentra rusty. Because it's from ohio. Who had rust on tiny car. And he's in the car with the dealer and my dad had gone to a d- a used car dealership and brought the car and the dealer to this job and he said he. I think i think this. And i think the car cost probably fifteen hundred dollars and my dad was like i'm gonna put half on it like if you can. We can finance the seven fifty. I'm going to take some savings and put that other seven fifty with it. But i think this this is the one and that little nissan sentra carried me for good five six years when i first moved to la. I was here like six months. And then had it shipped out like that little card carried me and that was a gift a gift. A co partnership with my dad to make it make it happen. You know my dad's great. My mom and my mom has passed on but my parents are great. Yeah that's wonderful. That really i mean. I mean a wonder that you have the well. It's funny because if you do this stuff for a living you either need to have self assuredness or like profound wild insecurity you have to go to kuwait crazy gestures right wash right. But i think you're coming from the healthy you like. You're one of the healthy ones. Yeah i don't. I don't have crippling insecurity and that doesn't mean that i am a magically delicious or anything i have a mirror i know. I'm a chubbier. 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Were working just fine and now don't work much. I know people run at the top of their game. Yes nobody will hire them for anything now. So i listen i. I don't know why someone got lied to and told that they could be jerk and drive. I was never told that that. If you're a jerk you your opportunities dry up. Yeah that's what i was. I was raised that you don't want to be the jerk. No and i mean there's all kinds of reasons even i to me. It's always just amazing. If you're just a person that cares about the bottom line like what. Can i get out of a situation being nice. It greases the gears better than anything else but on top of it. It's its own reward. You know you get to go to sleep at night. Feeling good about yourself and about humanity. I gotta say this though. I did have somebody at an actress. The starlets say to me once. I don't know what i was doing onset. I might have been talking to the background actors or something just regular human stuff and this woman said to me. Wow you're really nice in i. Yeah she was like how to do that. Yeah you just saw it. That's what it is about people. This chick was like. I don't know what that is and so i think that we can say that it's easy to do because we would decent people but i think some people. They just weren't raised soon body beyond themselves. They weren't raised to to clock a need that does not funnel back to their own wellbeing. I think we're dealing with in right now. With colbert and everything like the idea that people don't wanna be inconvenienced by wearing a mask. Even though they know that we're in the mass helps others. If we the mistake was saying you wear the mask for others had an american salute. You wear the mask for you. Lot of people a lot more people be wearing masks. But it's for others. I don't care timeout. So they're not wearing so it's also if it had happened also to it's just the timing with trump. It's just like everything that everything's everybody's got a if if if the if there's something that sort of like regular normal people that aren't in Are just are you know saying well. This is something to do. There's all these people that follow him. They're like nope. Nope i mean. It's i like it. He said something about wearing seatbelts is is for losers. They stopped wearing seatbelts. And isn't that scary. it's ridiculous it's i'm just sort of sitting here waiting for it to end. I mean you know. I thought that it was going to twenty january. Six told me that it probably wouldn't end january twentieth. Says it's it's rough. It's well it's that's a that's we could talk about that for a long time would not be fun. Would not so when you were younger. Was it music. was that the thing. Singing and singing and sing was churches. Hanging was at school singing. Was it all of it. It's still music for me. Like music is if i hear a song with amazing music or lyrics a vocal. That is just beyond. I'm i'm just over over the moon Yes it was church singing. It was singing At school it was singing and talent shows in cleveland. I've really any once a group i was in. We once sang christmas carols. Walking through a grocery store. Christmas time like there was up sung in the men's underwear tab of a department store like he just i've i i used to sing anywhere. Someone who is a singer who can sing at me. 'cause i just saw it as my way out i was like this is how i'm going to to make make my way in life. I'm going to be a performer. Yeah and so when you is studied in college did you study. No actually studied mass mass media. Thought i would be a journalist because was also very practical right so all of my teen years chasing music and then when it didn't happen didn't become a recording artist. At by six there wasn't discovered in became an artist by sixteen rich and famous and swept to la I when i went to college. What else am i good at. I really good public speaking. And i I care about the news and what's happening in the world. So i'll be a journalist. I'll write for a newspaper. Or i'll be anchor or i'll be a talk show host. So that's what. I majored in I have a bachelors and finding applied arts with a journalism asked media bent you but you didn't you decided to not really pursue that or did you know that was the fallback 'cause the like if all else fails. I'll do the news. Yeah all right you know. I really did want to be a singer and an actor as like a the other fallback and the thing that i when i was a kid i wanted to do was. I wanted to be a teacher. A kindergarten teacher. I still dream doing that. Yeah s still love. Five or six year olds. And i love teachers. I think they're so unsung. So yeah. i still dream about that. And i try to. I try to be a bit of a teacher and everything that i do. When i'm on twitter in interviews and stuff i try to impart things. I've learned that. I think are important for people. So the part of my life and teaching is show business performing. You're you know you're putting on a show every right every every class so when you came out here What's the adjustment. Like what how does explain sort of this sort of shifting of expectations and and rearranging of kind of goals. I mean the number -nology that ao. It's funny coming to la anybody else but for me it was like how do i eat. There were so many months of my life. When i first moved out here where i was so hungry all the time. I've told this story before but it's worth saying again. When i was i was living at a room i was renting a room in a house in inglewood for three hundred dollars a month. My grace gift to have my own door. That i could close but i had no money. I was on the bus. I had no money. I was temping Up in hollywood at motown and If i went to work and it was someone's birthday or something like that. Then i would definitely be able to to eat or friend. Winning ordered a sandwich. sometimes they'd cut me a little quarter a fourth of it and share it with me. 'cause people knew that i was starving. One day i came home from From i'd been living. This is what i've been living on at the time. I will get a pack of dinner. Rolls at twelve. Pack of dinner rolls a box of instant mashed potatoes. That you could make with waters important that you can make with water because at and or butter eggs or anything and then i had If i was really splurge in like if i really was balling out of control that we i will get the extra thick thick a one sauce. Now if you take that piece that one that one role one scoop of instant potatoes one cup. Mix it up in a couple of dabs of that of that a one. It would taste like to me a state-aided dinner. So i would eat. I'm looking. I'm celebrating the thought of it. I would eat one one. Roll one cup of mashed potatoes in three or four dabs of A one a day not trying to be thin. I just had to conserve that twelve roles. Hold me for twelve days and so i was starving. I was lost like thirty pounds within like a month or so and my roommate was a nurse g. g. god bless g g. She was a pediatric nurse and she one day i came home in the entire counter was filled with all these different foods and name-brand like wonderbra wasn't like i was on debris and i went into this mike almost in tears. Seeing this cornucopia great yeah go into. Gt's room and echo. You forgot to put your food away. And she said no that's offer you. She was like and again. I get emotion every time i think about it and she said you know i see that you're starving and ever go through that as long as i'm here so please. If you ever stat bad please tell me is she literally saved my life and because i was starving yeah So that is a good example of what my path in. La has been like. Because every time. I have been starving literally or figuratively a g. g. has appeared every single time someone has miraculously or divinely been sent to to bridge to get me to whatever the next places. But that's okay. I'm sorry i'm sorry. I know you got other things to do. After this you all right be talking about my mom at some point. Now cry into okay. Yeah okay well yeah. That's that's wonderful. That's really i mean. I had the. I would the first time i came out here. I was staying on a friends couch. And i went to the store and bought Aluminum tray and the stuff to make. Lasagna lasagna lasagna. Br as you know it was like a big sheet pan. A every meal was lasagna. You know like some. It was like breakfast. I'd have a piece on people really don't know he don't know what what it takes to have a career in this business especially if you're not a legacy like my mother is not a famous actress. I'm not rich. I know all of those things. A lot of people start with that. You know i didn't have that so there's a lot of things like when i'm on twitter like the thing that makes me the angriest one of the things that makes me angry is when someone questions why i care about something. Their thought is will. You're you're rich actress. Your your elite and unlike i am a kid from cleveland was worked for everything i've ever gotten and i'm never lost that feeling or that connection to to having less yeah ever- every every decision. I make the charities i support. They're all in line with helping people who are in that spot height spot of wanting to become something or do something great and it's just tight. Favorite charities donors choose because it lines up teachers who want to do great things for their students but don't have the money and it allows people that do have five dollars twenty five dollars that they can spare too so into that teachers project so that these babies can have something great in their lives like. That's that's who i am. That's what i'm connected to. So this idea that. Because i'm on television or because someone's mind i've made it. I no longer know how much milk costs no longer understand. What it's like for single mother. I grew up with a single mother. I get it you know so then hungry. I've slept in my car. I've slept on a floor. I know what that is. And i've never lost my attachment to it or my my respect for those who survive it ever so i'll get mad when people think i don't know. Yeah no shitty. Nece of twitter too. It's like it's likely wouldn't you wouldn't encounter that you would occasionally if there was no twitter. You wouldn't occasionally usually encounter people that would make you indignant for that reason right treat. You is like well. What do you care miss. You know emmy nominee nominee. You only occasionally run into them whereas in twitter. You meet them every every every five minutes every asshole assholes because they're anonymous because they're hiding behind something because their life is probably pretty crappy. I don't know anybody who's life is amazing that spins their time trying to destroy other people's spirits. I don't know anybody that's ball and out of control in the spirit space. Yeah that is trying to tear down another person so anyone ends they show themselves. It's like oh how much i mean there is. There's this great influence or an actor named tabitha brown and she got into a well. She didn't get into dust up. There was some things something was set up about her and her family by a somebody on television and tablet did an instagram video to discuss the you the goal of this person to say something about her family. And what's said is. Oh what pain you must be in. That was the the best description of how it feels when you're attacked by trolls. Oh your thing. You must be suffering that. You're you're doing this right now. Oh sad one of my coworkers used to say there was a job that i worked on there with somebody who has just like nice to everybody above him an awful every of people and and we would often talk about that guy must be so miserable guy actually must just be so miserable and one of my co said. Yeah because i think about that how miserable he must be in his life. But then i make myself remember what he's done and what he said because he's like i don't want to give to get to. Yeah yeah i wanna. I don't wanna give wastes too much sympathy myself. Like yeah yeah. He's miserable any. May it takes the bill. Let's remember the other people exactly true that he's harmed right up karma won't forget either though. No well you you hope you crushed. Carmen never misses. I'm a believer never misses. I hope i helped us. Man there some karma coming for some people We may never see. That's the i tell my. Can i tell my my x. files thing about this please show of course. Okay so Anyone that watches x-files remembers the cigarette. Smoking man and the cigarettes cigarettes watched cigarette. Smoking man is a man that was kind of in the on. The periphery or in the background. Every horrible thing that happened in the last thirty or forty years of like yeah right and so there was an episode where they followed cigarette smoking man home in as he opens his door. That can barely open the door because behind a stack of manila envelopes. And we know what's in them and they'll envelopes and checks. His own is a brand new manila envelope and he opens it up and it says dear cigarette smoke man on man's name cigarette smoking man. Thank you for your manuscript. Unfortunately we cannot accept blah blah blah blah blah so. He puts manuscript back into oslo and puts it on top of the stack of all manila envelopes. That are there and that episode. Never left me. Because i thought to myself as horrible as this man is and how he has been part of every horrible thing. That has happened in america. Even he has a dream because of his wretchedness he will never have the thing that he wants. Most and this is the thing had. We not followed him home. We wouldn't know that he was a failed writer. That newt god came out. It'd be turned the and took his thumb and put right in the middle of that dream is this is the one thing he will never have. And this is what. I know about karma no matter who you are. You got something that you want. You got something that you dream of that you may be have told no one and when you are wretched and nasty god will come out to be turned the and put his thumb right in the middle of it's like i say karma never misses we may not see it. Yeah but it never misses. Yeah all right well. I guess i'd better be nice then. You're always nice. That's true. I am i am. You're a sweetie pie. Most of the time. I think i think most of the time as well i i mean. My mom doesn't think i call enough but listen. We can't please everyone all the time. But i think if you and i must say this having lost my mom call your mom moore. Alright i will once i'm telling you eddie. Cherish our because once she's gone it is a whole 'nother level of woods. Please do it do it. I will now tell me about about okay. I'm going to be an actor. Then like what happens then how. I made that decision here You know music. I always feel like you. Should you should chase. What wants you back right and so music. As much as i love music music just did not let love me back and so i just realized that i really like making people laugh and i felt like had a bit of something that might work on screen and so i thought well let me. Just try was actually in a in a church. Drama group and a playwright named david talbert. Who had a great movie on on netflix. This past summer Pass winter coat jingle jangle but he also did a lot of stage plays and he was like tyler perry before tyler perry and he was he casting for a play and none of us at the in the in the drama group knew it and he came to one of our rehearsals in. I got an audition and went and audition and got to create a role in stage play. That toured the country for eight months and that was my first professional acting gig and i was working at the time as a legal secretary at showtime. And my my boss steve. Rogers attorney steve rogers. Thank you to him. Said we love you here. We love for you to stay but we know that you've got this dream so go out four month. See if you like. It will hold your job if you like it after a month. You can quit then if you don't like it you come home and your job is waiting for you. And so that's another g told you everytime algae would appear boss right. he's amazing. he's amazing he's retired. Now he's in palm springs live his best life but i went out on the road with the tour. I knew within the first week that i loved it like the the bug bit me and i called and i said guys. I'm sorry i'm staying out here. Thank you so much and I did the play toured with the play for eight months and then came back to la. And thought. I really want to try this so i I got commercial agent and started auditioning and i booked in an industrial like within the first two three weeks and then i started booking national commercials and i did like forty five national commercials in my commercial run. auditioned for pilots and got a sitcom it just and then it just took off from there right right. Yeah yeah that's great. And that's an i mean doing that commercial work. It's it's you know you get one or two good commercials and that's your year. Yeah they're year of legal secretary yano. It's not so much that way anymore. I think the money's come down. I i kinda got into commercials right after the commercial strike. I remember i remember back before the strike you do one. Mcdonald's commercial and that downs commercial air for five years and you would just be minting money after the strike. They started doing the strip commercials. Where they do you. You'd film your mcdonald's commercial along with the latino family of bangladesh family yeah little kids a cartoon version and then each one of you would get three months instead of five years you get three months so it just was a was less opportunity for you to like buy a house mercer money and that's why it was important to stack as many of them as you can like right book as many as you can as quickly as possible which is do and that's a i mean. That must have felt great. I mean it must have felt like. I know you know i i made the right choice but are you are you. Are you all nervous because it is kind of an adjusted career choice and you were. You know. I mean. I know when i started getting hired as my. My training was improv. I took a couple of theater classes when i was in college but didn't really respond to them. They didn't really get them so all my training was just onstage doing improv so when i started getting jobs in movies i really was like. Oh shit do. I really know how to how to do this. Yeah yeah i mean. And i would add. I would be like my first scene in a movie. It was in a cable movie at me. that's how old it was. we called it a cable. Move your time for it was for. Hbo i think and And my scene was with. I had one scene. I played a young like sheriff's officer and my scene was with beau bridges. And swazi kurtz. Wow this is great. Start man. Yeah and but it was just all so weird and i felt like you know the director the director michael ritchie. Who is he directed. Famous movie called smile. That was probably his which was like kind of like an altman esque seventies Beauty pageant moving. And but he was just really wonderful and great. Everything you're doing is great. And i was like i don't i don't remember sure but You know. I just kind of kept doing it and you know. Unlike when they said we're coming around 'cause they shoot one side of the seat and then they they have to turn the whole room around shoot the other side and i was like i don't know what that means but it seems like i'm supposed to walk away for awhile i mean. Did you go through some of that. Oh gosh for sure. And you know this whole industry. They don't tell you this is like learn on the job. Yeah yeah like even if you if you studied theater unless like you can studied theater and then go to broadway and it will translate right but you can't study a television film in college. Maybe now but they probably have working studios and stuff now where you can see what it's like to be on a sitcom cetera. Film set but back when i was there. There was no direct correlation between this experience in this classroom and what it will be like at five thirty. Call going to set for the first time. There's just no way to know what it is. And i remember when i first started out i again did the commercials and i did some sitcoms and i wanted to do drama and i remember i don't know why can't you drama you i was. That was one little bit of ready right. I ended up booking one line on a drama and it was a long tracking shot where i was smack. Dab in the middle it might might as well have been like cirque du soleil someone from circling soleil two and five flips onto the back of an elephant who then sprung water. And then i walk in and say my line and then the rockets come in and do a five minutes like i was smack dab in the middle of action action and every time they got to me. I kept messing up either saying the line wrong. The camera wasn't on my face. When i said the liner i put the mug coffee down. 'cause i was playing a waitress. Put the munger coffee down at the wrong time like i. I had to make everybody reset and go back to one. Probably twenty times and i remember wanting the ground to swallow me up and i spent the rest of that the next day in fetal position on the floor of my apartment rocking back and forth going. Well why why. And what. I learned from that. Experience is that you don't don't don't rush it like my me proudly say well i can do. I'm ready for single. Camden new york though. Yeah like you're not in hedge. Had i just waited and done my little co stars or one line or done more background work. Watch and see what what this experience was like. When it really was my time and my turn. I would not have embarrassed myself and wasted those people's time. Yeah because the thing is one thing. I do know that the waitress putting down to mug of coffee mill. That scene is not what that scene was about so the idea that they had to reset it. That many times for me is something that haunts me to this day. And so i don't. I don't race ahead in this industry. I ain't said why don't i since that day. Yeah yeah never got sins is fine by me. We've i mean everybody that does this for a living has been there and that that feeling that like well first of all you have to be built in a way that it matters to but i have definitely been in that same situation where i keep screwing it up. I don't get my line ride or get something wrong. And it's it's the worst. It's like. I like i'll i'll take i'll take heat. I'll take you know. I can handle like if a production is screwing me over. But if i feel like i'm screwing the production over. Get so furious at myself. Yeah it really upsets me too. I don't. I don't like to be the weak link if i'm working on something. I am the first person whenever my call time is. I'm showing up fifteen minutes before the call to you always wear. I need to be like when you do a sitcom as during the run through when you're like showing telling us to the audience not to you and i understand you're showing up two times a week where you show the quote unquote play to the studio. The writer is the the network and as it moves as the play is being the play. The play has the show is being performed for everyone at the run through the eighty s to go and make sure. If you're integrating from the bedroom they go and peak around the back to make sure you're standing where you need to be time for your entrance. I am always right where the ad needs to be never. They're never no one is ever looking for me on a set. And that's because. I don't want anyone to ever have to look for me. I want if we go and go. I don't wanna be the reason. We're not going. Yeah yeah you know. And i think that experience is one of the things that makes me that way because i know what it feels like to be the reason someone else has to start over and that is now feeling i think also to even stronger on poorly run things that i've been on because when i like i'm already like you guys are so fucked up but i think but my i got my shit together. I screw up in that situation. And i'm like oh yes contributed attributing the mess right. Especially when you're like already feeling superior and then you should i. I don't get to feel superior and did you know like so. Are you fine now. Doing comedy i mean. Do you worry about you know. Is there still that drive to do drama. Do you still feel i think. I think that. I have some like a strong drama role in me. I don't know that. I would want to do it as a series. Because i don't like a single. A shot finally had to accept that. I am a multi cam girl like. It's not seeing the turning around and whole room and being in here and makeup and spanks every day and that is just not not for mission missing everything in your life for everything. Yeah i mean we did community and that was a comedy and we were doing sixteen hour days every day. So yeah a lot of cash to actually when that that much cash you get some days off. Never everybody's altogether all the time. No so i so. I already known that that's just not that's not my thing and i'm getting better at choosing where i wanna be and what i wanna do and saying no to things that don't work for me and just you know riding it out and just trying to just trying to have a good life within this industry. Yes the goal right now. Do you think 'cause. I mean i think there is like a thing among Comic actors to downplay like. It's like yeah. I'm i'm an actor. And i'm successful and i do this. I mean it's comedy it's all just stilian frivolous. I'm not doing the important rhino meryl streep he kinda do you. I mean do you think that does that exist in. You are all at all. And why that is i mean. Is that just a grass greener. I think that it's actually not even genuine. Because i think the harder lift is the comedy. Yeah i think it's harder to illicit a giggle out of someone or chuckle out of someone than it is to make someone cry. It's a very specific. And i think that most comedians most people that are fun comedic actors or stand up so whatever i think most of them can can do drama. Because it's the it's always call it hearing the music right when i do a sitcom i don't even need an audience because when i read the line the first script i get of whenever that the show is i can hear the that that data bouba i can hear the music and where the joke should feel it within me and it's the same music you here. When you're doing a drama you can tell where the tug is. You can tell where the point of the speech is right. I think the choice is to to not push it in the same way a comedian. You know where the punchline is but it's gonna die if you go if you like okay here again. It's the same thing with drama. If you are telegraphing these where the tears are gonna come. It's your dead in the water. So i i think that in o'shea too dramatic actors i mean meryl streep people viola davis coming sure. Yeah but but. I do think that comedy is harder. Yeah i think so too. Yeah because i think you gotta like you got. I don't know many people that could be really funny actors or be funny in things as actors who aren't like kinda funny on their own. I mean exactly as if there's a few yet i've met that where i'm like. Whoa how are you so unfunny in real life but only a few and they're leery rare exceptions whereas you know ended. This kind of seem like well drama. You know like you might problem with acting and drama. Is that i always. I've done so much. Fake drama acting for comedy purposes. Like a serious voice over you know i i. It's hard. I feel like whenever i'm doing something quote unquote serious i. It just looks like making fun of it. You know in my estimation. Yeah i kind of have a touch of that too because the show. I'm on right now. Big shot is It's a it's an call drama. I think it's more of a comedy. But i'd say that would johnstone's that because john stamos and i are both country hands. We're both foods and so even if we're having a real serious you know thing we're each going to find something to twinkle about. There's a little twinkle in us. And even i did. A i did laying the tramp for For disney plus one of the first movies that aired on disney plus and i played the villain. I was sarah in that. And even when i was supposed to be really horrible still was like kinda funny like i. Just try to imbue. Even the dark characters. I play with a little bit of of merson silliness. Yeah and maybe. That's why i'm hired. I don't know I'm definitely not a serious. I can do. Yeah i mean. There's been no proof on camera. i i have. I've only done it. I've only done it a couple of times. In fact i just. I was just on rob. Lowe's podcast yeah. We taught and i one of the like the biggest one i ever did was after he left the west wing he had. Nbc legal drama is called lions den. Yeah jeremy lying. I and and yeah and i just. I talked to him about it in on a like. It was really hard for me because it was kinda corny. It wasn't it was. Like i played a guy i it's it's too long but i played a guy that like screwed up. Debate like reached and tried to grab a foul ball at a baseball game there. By ruining team's chances and newseum. Yeah the newspapers supposedly printed name and address which just no newspaper would do that in the first place. But i had to do all this like. I was kind of supposed to be a dick which i can do that. There was like all kinds of stuff like what this game meant to me. And i just felt like andy on taking this seriously. You're judging the role it's not good. You have bad snow all in no i. I can listen. I can commit to the i can commit to. The people. don't know that. I have judgments. I can fake. It still looks like commitment. Even though there's like some like our and i'm committed about what about our auto podcasts. You buy into that world when we were in the room and yes yeah we did. A podcast called broom room. Yes so it's weird to call it a podcast. It's like it's a radio play. Play that you buy because it was never anything other than than this scripted piece of entertainment that that was made for audible and like with that was. I don't know that was kind of that. Had a very comic manic entertained too but they were really fun. That's a really good. It's a good thing. It's a good nato serious moments in. Yeah yeah several important in there. Yeah i guess. I don't know Room is available at audible on audible. Yes Check it out and we also have to talk about this new project broken diamonds. I'd be. I'd have been told. We gotta talk about broken. And it's a. It's a beautiful independent films. Starring ben platinum kirk director. Peter sadler alfonzo mccauley's also in it and and and me and it's a story about Bins character has big dreams and he has plans for his life and right on the cusp of him. Chasing the biggest dream of his life. He ends up becoming a caregiver for his sister. Who is struggling with schizophrenia. And it's a story about what happens when life kind of throws you a curve ball and you have to choose someone else's well being over your own. Yeah and and you know that's that's caregiving in a in a nutshell. I'm a caregiver. I chose to be a caregiver wasn't thrust on me bins character. It's thrust on him at a really pivotal moment of his life and he has to figure out how to how to navigate it with grace and how to see his sister as Someone who who something happened to. yeah right. She didn't choose to struggle with schizophrenia. Schizophrenia happened to her and him trying to find the software way of navigating that with her is really beautiful. And i think it's a it's a great movie and and we're going to start streaming everywhere on monday video on demand. Okay great and it's on. It's on all the platforms. There'll be aware anyway. You want to see it. it'll be there broken diamonds. i will give it a look And is that is that kind of would you like to kind of do more. That kind of indie movie sort of you know i would. I would love a indie movie. That had a very tight schedule craft service and went out in good trailers. I want to kind of indie movie where you know they got one they can do one take of everything. Yeah yeah i'd be really good in the first there's diminishing returns with me as an actor you get in i. I you how do twelve takes. I'm gonna be good for two of them. The first to be garbage so i the i like to be on sets where the director likes to do good on. Clint eastwood said. I heard that he gets in and gets out. Yeah mike let's not beat a dead horse. Let's get in here and find it and move on so that kind of indie film. Yeah 'cause i yeah i've done. Well it's been a while. I mean i've been off on conan island for so long that There has you know. I mean i can do. Some guests bought stuff. But but i haven't been in an indie movie for awhile. And and i it which i don't have anything against like being in an indie movie except for the fact that sometimes when you go there and they're like okay you know 'cause acting you know how much waiting rounders it's like okay. You got two or three hours now and it sorta like will. Where should i go. There's a folding chairs getting over there. It gets under the tree holding shares. Don't always hurt. Hold you girthy give me that share clinton or just wider wider. Good luck with the phone chan. Yeah no because he do. You know you do get used to having your own little even if it's a you know even if it's like a trailer that split up into four little by little dolls as long as i got my own little horse off and not have to make small talk of so i can remember my lines that usually it's remember my line as for the other thing is to like i. I'm i'm an aesthetic person. Like especially on settling. If i'm not home with my things. I need to be in a nice space. So i've realized that as i've gotten older and longer an industry i will fight more for a nice trailer than money. Yeah i'll be like. I guess me the five dollars but i do need a door on the bathroom in my trailer. Yes i need three steps up to. And i need you know. Can i have one. That's got the nice leather couch and not the one this fabric in on it georgia the bathroom. That isn't a curtain actual door to the bathroom. Yeah no mold on the ceiling. Nine love. I had a couple where there's that you walk in. When you smell the mold will you can smell it going back. I was on when i was on his show. Quintuplets did a whole season on fox and me and my tv wife. Rebecca chris gough we shared what they call a to banger which is a a trailer that's bisected so it's half and half and i had. It looks like the shroud of turin was on the ceiling. Of this of this thing it was so moldy and so gross only guy. And i would sit complain to the teamsters. Because it's teamsters. It runs the trailer for i would say like. Hey it's really gross in here and nothing ever happened and then about halfway. Through the season the production manager was walking by and popped in for just a second to say so. Tell me about something. And she looked up and she was like. Oh my god. That's what i've been talking about. She's like in the next day. It was like just and you learn lessons like that like you. Don't wanna be the one that like makes a bunch of beef and complains and stuff right then you find out like you learned something where i learned like oh next time. I have black mold on the ceiling. I'm going to go to someone who can do something about say. Hey look this isn't as bad and they will go. Yeah that's bad. It gets actually taking care of you know. I decided that recently. With a something i did and i did not speak up because i i have. I don't want to ever be the premadonna. Or i don't either but at a certain point like you kind of want there to be handled on the cabinets and you do want. They're not to be mold. That's a health issue. That's not life. Yeah i know. I know here. We are complaining about our trailers are sorry we we spend a lot of the time we do. Well where do you. What's where's your going next. Where do you where do you see it going. Are there things you're doing you're not going to do. Is it just kind of a continuation. I think i think i'm going to be more strategic in what i say yes to i think when you first start out you have You just want to work and you just saying yes to everything and now i'm getting into. I'm i'm of an age. And i'm getting to a place in my career where i want quality of life. I wanna just see my dog and be able to feed my father a meal that i cooked out every day and so that means i have to make different choices for what i say yes to. Yes that's the next thing I also have got a really strong lego addiction. That i am feeding really. Oh my gosh. i've insists my i got back from ireland was in ireland doing disenchanted. Since i got back. I have probably put together five or six lego kits doing them one at night at this. Done sesame street. Winning the pu i did. I'll paris. I did a whole vase of flowers. I did the the yellow fiat. I did a bonsai tree. I did seinfeld and friends like that. Same winnie the pooh. I literally every night building something and so how long this is going to have. Its hold on me. But it's very zen wanna get to a point in my life where anything like that. I love there's time to do. Yeah that means inner. Maybe i'll do. We don't set. maybe. I'll take it into my moldy trailer. I'll be putting it together in there but I want more of that. I want more things that make me feel peaceful in. Yeah yeah yeah more opportunities to do stuff like that. I love building legos. Atm i have a half built Volkswagen bug in my listeners. The yellow one. Twenty half theat. I think it's green green but it it's like an years ago i made with my son. We made a vw camper bus bus. That was really fun to do. Yeah so i. I love it. Yeah the the the completion of i love watching it format when i made the like you start with the undercarriage and then you just slowly watch this car. Come together in front of unit actually rolls in the you can lift up the front and see the tide of spare tire. Yes this is great after. I'm done with you kind of feel like we're going. We built it. It's like well. I guess i don't know i do know this is what i do. If it's one that really matters to me and i have the millennium falcon than i am a big star wars inner from keeping that forever. But if it's one that i just liked and i didn't love i take it apart. Put it in a huge ziplock in ziplock bags with the with the little booklet. And then i put it back in the box and give it to goodwill kids or young people even older people that love legos. That maybe can't afford them. They get to have the sense that they exciting. You would be to get there and see you know the committee falcon or complete set with instructions and all is ready to go like jean awesome. So that's what i do so you might wanna do that. Then you feel guilty. Building will donate i will. Well what do you think is the point of the at that story. You know like what you've kind of given well you know. That's the final of these three questions. What have you learned. Pardon you've been sharing. A lot of that already was awesome weight. Well yeah but it up. I think the point of me being here is tomato kindness and care for others. And i hope that anyone that has met me or work with me or even stood behind me in a grocery store line feels that i care about them and feels that What they want in life and what they dream up in life is just as important as what i want and what i dream of and you know there's been seasons of my life or what other people wanted was even more important what i want it I hope that You know. I've said this often when i pass away I hope that my legacy is kindness. I hope that people come together and speak of how nice i was like that. That would be more than she was emmy nominated or an emmy winner more than she was cuter. Whatever somebody might see talent whatever some nice things someone might say about me. None of that is more important than someone saying. When i was in need yvette. Listen to me or she had gave me great advice or she just was kind to me when i wanna be kind that that is most important end just bouncing back to the loss of my mother. That's the legacy of my mother. My mother was just a ball of light. And love and anyone that met her at a bingo hall or in a grocery store. They just on sex. I took her to set all the time. She's like set mascot of every show. I redid everyone walked away with a story of something she did or said that i didn't even know about like i've gotten calls from people like i was behind your mom and craft services one day on the set of community and she said this to me and it changed how i think about this or you know. She would call my friends on their birthday. My one of my friends lost her mom right before she turned fifty. My mother spent an hour on the phone with her so that she would have a mom. Call right that's when my mother was so. Yeah yeah well. I don't think you have much to worry about. Because i mean you know we did that. One thing together. And i mean aside from how funny in town had great. You are and everything that you do. I mean you go beyond just the fact that like that. You do care for your dad every day. That's that's really really rare and really really special to do. Because i you know a it's like people might have complicated enough relationships with their parents that might there might be misgivings for you know for to take care of somebody that yet. You know complicated dealings for right but also to. It's like you can afford to have to just not have to do that yourself. And you do it yourself because you because you think it's right and that's unbelievable. It's really it's really you know. If there's you know there's gotta be some reward for it. I think you're probably getting it though don't you you say it's it's you know the kindness that you've put out as a dividend was saying this and come back. I have great friendships. Mar relationship with my dad is wonderful. My dog is amazing. I had a great mother My career is is rewarding. I'm not starving anymore. I can actually go. And buy you know actual potatoes and make real potato flakes real butter milk and butter irish cream. But i get to carry goal. It's like it's it's i'm blessed. I'm very blessed and i try to. I try to be a blessing every single day. I try to. I try to so back into the the good karma piggy-bank every day that i live so it's rewarding. It's its own reward. It really is being. Decent is its own reward. I believe you are absolutely right. And thank you for blessing us there on the three questions with your presence and everybody go Go look at Broken diamonds because it's already. It's already out by the time the time it'd be on. Yeah so but thank you so much of it. It's great to see you again to see you think are pitcher. Don't yeah we do. We're going to take a picture but you all you all go away. 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Caleb Hearon

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

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Caleb Hearon

"Hello everyone. It is time again for the three questions with andy richter. I am as always andy. Richter and i am talking today to the very very funny talented. He's a newcomer on the scene. But you've i'm sure you've seen some of his hilarious work. Caleb how are you and it's here in right Herron yeah herron aaron. There shouldn't be in there if it's herron. Yeah i i agree with you and say it's fine with me. I don't care all right. All right collab- let's get into it now. You you are. You and i have some similar You were both midwestern. We both were. I o people. Yeah yeah and And now you are working on like the the big mouth Spin off right. Yeah we did We did season one of that last fall. And then we're gearing up for For season two of it now but the seasonal come out this spring. And i think people are really going to like it have you have you been in a writer's room or is it all been from home. It has all been from home. I moved i was living in chicago. I lived in chicago for three years after college. And i got that job offer after already decided to move to la during the pandemic which. I don't really understand why i did that. And then we did the room all on zoom as my first writer's room and it was awesome. Yeah yeah yeah. we're was. It was easy to find an apartment like pandemic wise. Like i don't know if you like no real 'cause nobody's moving. Yeah and we didn't want to. We didn't want to make a trip out because most people who move from chicago to la at least currently your last couple of years. The way that i know it is that people come out for like a week about a month before they want to actually move out and find a place signed for that back all the well. We didn't wanna make multiple trips because it was the height of cova it so we signed for a place over facetime and it was really difficult to get someone to do that. Yeah wow and it's probably haunted or something. There's probably you know it was haunted. We lived at. Yeah we moved. We moved. We moved in two bedroom apartment in north hollywood. Because i didn't have a job. So i really if i get that writer job i interviewed for that'd be dope but i didn't have a job so i was like driving for uber. Eats was the plan and got that job in december After we six months we move to a new place that we liked better. Oh nice yeah. That's good yeah. I mean that is one thing about. Elliot's there's lots of like flexible housing much more. So than a lot of other places you know yeah month to month leases platz all kinds of stuff. It's very it's very different. You bet you benefit from the transient sad passing lots of options because there's lots of people disappearing all the time now. You're from missouri right rural. Yeah very yeah. What's the name of the town. I'm from a town called. I'm from north west North northwest missouri The town i grew up most in we moved a lot. It's called chillicothe easy. And it is now bob. People don't know this but it's the home of sliced bread ever fuck. You put a knife to bread before. I listening saying that what happened was people. Hey i am tired of eating an entire loaf at one. And andy look people were they might have been. They might have been making a loaf of bread and cutting it with a knife. Were systematically buying slice by machine at the store until my town came along. Oh wow yeah. So that's great very. There's like murals of bread. Around town is hilarious. Corneas like most mid western. Yeah just goofy that's hilarious. It's a gluten intolerance nightmare town. You're talking people. You're gluten free. Don't go now you just two of you to siblings you and i had Yeah grew up with my brother And then it kind of had two sisters. My mom was with a engaged to a guy for a while who lived with who had two older daughters that they we became very close. But we're not blood-related. Oac keep up with them still or keep up with them. Yeah so is when our parents broke up we were kind of like we like each other so we still talk all the time and i consider them my sisters but it's yeah it's it's complicated story. That's great yeah that's great. So what kind of kid were you. I mean the and it was. Your dad was not in the picture is that is that my dad not around so much. I mean my dad. I think about my dad i go after lots of therapy i feel you know not much anger towards him. I just think he probably shouldn't have been a parent. Like i think that probably is the t- on that but he wasn't. I had to go see him on weekends. But i hated it and i don't know that he liked it very much either but he he lived in kind of the same area all the time like we moved he moved but we were always kind of around so i would see him like most weekends but mostly mostly with my mom who raised me. Okay and what i mean. I mentioned that was tough. You know in a small town. I mean is there is there a support structure is their family to helper. Yeah i both. Sides of my family are very. I would say dysfunctional on both sides To to a maximum degree. I think both sides of my family are Extremely fucked up in different ways And but i got really lucky i played. I played sports growing up and a lot of the guys. Who are my coaches would like. Take me from practice and i look back and i'm like oh you know they definitely spent extra time with me because i was the kid who didn't really have a doubt around these guys. Just love my energy and you look back and you realize it was all pity you look back and it's like oh no. They felt like a responsibility to the community. That's you are you are. What took village basically exactly the village was really like. This one's the one we got a rally around. No i mean everyone i. I had a lot of great coaches and teachers growing up and also my brother. My older brother brother's older and he was a real like remember. There was just a perennial mess. I constantly getting in trouble doing should. He knew he shouldn't be doing and all the teachers hated him because he was like a problem. So i every year would like go into class and be like. And i'm. I'm not like my brother begging for people to like me so it was. It was a strange time west. He that kid. Like was he the kid because i know in our town they were like a couple of different and was all boys obvious. You know there were boys that you would invoke their name. And it was like he's bad terror. Where are you from. Eddie york ville illinois york villanova. Thank you so much from chicago. It's about sixty miles west. But you know when in in wh when i was growing up it might as well have been two hundred miles. You know just in terms of the white fear of the city and actually do it you know it would be bears game cubs games and maybe a museum thrown in every couple of years but beyond that the city was terrifying. You know as just you know i it. It didn't even matter that it was. It was less than an hour away or an hour. Away it's crazy. How much those things like. I grew up like an hour and a half north of kansas city which is not a huge city. Not dangerous really and it's crazy. How much growing up adult saying things like you know. They would talk about especially obviously very racist like they were talking about neighborhoods where obviously a lot of black people or people who were not white lived and they would say things like oh if you ever if you ever find yourself lost down there like lock your car doors roll your windows up and you you grow up you lived in kency for a little bit worked neighborhoods like that and then you go. You guys are fucking insane. This like is just the boogeyman. It's all stuff. Yeah vented yeah. Yeah my ex wife. is what most of her family's in kansas city and we went to. I think it was a wedding that we went to there and we asked like for a particular barbecue restaurant and somebody directed us. And i think it was my ex wife's aunt or someone said that neighborhood is rough. Be careful like all no you just like. It was like oh you mean. It's a quiet african american neighborhood like yes. That's exactly what it was like. There was no palpable threat whatsoever. It was just. It was just the fear of people you know. It's such a i think in i in college was obviously such a huge awakening for me on so many things but one of them was. I remember very vividly a college professor. I think it was a polycyclic telling us a instructing us to read this What is it called like this research. That statistically the people in the united states where the most afraid of crime are the people who are least likely to be affected by the zayed's index about crime that exists in rural white communities where it hardly ever happens because everything's so spread out and the kind of crimes that happened. There are more individual like drug use and things domestic violence. But it's it's insane. The way that people work themselves into a frenzy over like i mean even when i was moving to chicago like you know a bunch of my friends dads being like. Be careful up there and it's like what are you. You're never why are you so you're never gonna even go. It's made up. i know anyway. Well you had your brother at least to kind of like do you think he was like a negative example like do you think that like in many ways that it affected you to sort of be more of a good boy because he was a bad boy or is that just a natural difference. We have different dads. So i think there's a genetic thing going on to some extent. His dad is a very particular type of person and he has a lot of the same traits as him. My is anti-social has a lot of mental health issues but it's also very intelligent. I think there's there are things about each of our dads that we really latch onto mental health. Issues are different present on both sides. But i think yeah one hundred percent the my brother being like a massive monumental sort of constant fuck up definitely encouraged me to stay in the closet longer definitely encouraged me to get good grades involved in everything in school trying to get all the teachers to like me. I mean i just wanted. My mom was raising the two of us by herself and working three jobs and putting herself through school and so my mom is a literal superhero. And i just saw. She just didn't even have the bandwidth to deal with his shit. So then i you know as a kid was definitely like i cannot do anything wrong like to this yet. I think there are parts of that. That i'm very grateful for because i think i turned out to be the kind of person that i would like to be. I mean changing all the time like everybody. But i'm pretty happy with my life but i think also there are things i look back on and go. Oh you know. The fear of failure. The fear of People not liking you of not feeling like you can make a single mistake because then you're you're ruining people's like it's it's a very interesting double edged sword. Yeah i do think to. What often happens is kids. That sort of live under a kind of benign neglect. You know like like everybody's just too busy. You know. I mean like sorry han. But you're going to have to figure it out for yourself like that can be very hurtful in some ways but it can also like there's like tremendous amount of self sufficiency. That happens komo young kids like that like where you learn to take care of yourself and you learn how to get shit done because there's no one else to do it for you and i think that that's you know i don't know you know it. Galvanizes you in a certain way. And probably you know yeah. I think it's a pretty present a joke on the internet. This is not a an original thing to say but there is this kind of widespread joke about an adult telling a kid. You have such an old soul and saying thank you. It's from my trauma. Yeah yeah it's like. I've always been more comfortable talking to adults when i was a kid. I've always known a little bit older than the people who are in my actual agents. Because my mom was doing my mom did a great job and paid a ton of attention to me. But i just did have to do a lotta shit on my own. I was. I was kind of without two parents in the household. There was like there was a lot of a lot of things to do to learn to cook early. Get yourself to school all that kind of stuff. Yeah yeah. When i was young i mean not to go into too much detail but like my mom started leaning on me for council at like thirteen or and she's like she's like you always gave such good advice so what she said. Gee whiz say things. Like i stopped arguing with you when you were about eleven because you always one and then i started asking you your opinion on stuff which is like at the time. I felt really proud like you know. My mom looks to me. And i'm really grown up but i make good choices and not realizing like you shouldn't do this. Mom like this too much. This is not an inversion of a paradigm. Um you know stuff that you should know about like i knew. I knew that we had money issues at a very young age. And like shit. That like that's stressful. Increase the kind of stress. You can't really handle as a kid. I as a child learned. Got my sixth sense about a bill collectors calling. Yeah i would say you know they'd ask if glenda was there and i'd be standing right next door and i'd say no i'm sorry. She's not. this is her son. And you know. And then i'd hang up my mom. Go bill collector. I said yeah. Yeah i mean i got kids and i just can't i i mean i don't blame my mom in some ways because it's just it's it's like you're in life but just i just don't think i would allow my kids to sort of you know fend off the bills then dismantle selectors right right or no no that you know about credit scores and shit. You know so well. Did you ask as a gay kid like. When did you start to really feel like you know you knew that this was going on with you. God i think i. I definitely remember like third and fourth grade. There was some very like you know everything was started to get so gendered around. Then that's been like the Girls meant for cheerleading. The boys meant for football. Everything started to hell and shop olmec. Yeah everything's started split around then. And i i remember feeling like i don't really like there. Were other things around into like a thanksgiving. All of the guys would like be. You know watching like not. Even the guys in my family are not even huge sports guys. But just because there'd be watching like fucking car show on tv or the football game. Or whatever. i right and i was absolutely in the kitchen trying to be like. What are the women talking about you know. and so. there's this thing for a while. Where i i was like you. You feel different but you don't know what it is you don't really know what gay is you. Don't really know anything about sex. I hope i certainly didn't and then you're like oh it's different. It's different but then when you do learn gay is for a while. I because of church and because of how much i loved women and being around women i was like oh i'm not gay. Just i just have to fight through this. Because if i was gay i wouldn't love being around women so much reverence for women actual right right and so yeah and then You know middle. School was very much about like praying about it and trying to be normal and wanting to you know not go through that just because it felt like such a hassle and also i didn't. I didn't think my family would be weird about. Honestly i always felt like my family are probably be pretty cool with me. Coming out yeah. I was very lucky in that way but the big fear for me was that i wouldn't. I've always had guy. Friends have always had like male friends that are important to me and i felt like just because the kind of jokes and stuff. We would make that if i was actually gay i wouldn't have guy friends anymore. Yeah yeah so. That was my big thing. It wasn't so much about the family. Like i want to continue to have the kinds of friendships. I have and make the kind of jokes and things that i make Which by the way my. I've never made more homophobic jokes than when i came out like instill currently i make more jokes now than i did when i was in the class right right but yeah just just wanting to have Wanting to be able to maintain your friendships and not have anything that separates you from your friends. Do you want to be just like your friends. Yeah yeah yeah. And i and there is will especially at there. We talked to we. Were talking about it a little bit before we started recording because we talk because my son is gay and he and his boyfriend had been together since they were sixteen and we were talking about. How how that's not. That's not the norm real. Don't you kidding yeah. Yeah and that you know. My son came out when he was eleven. And i've even you know. I mean i've had people that were guests on this show who are gay. Who were like you know. Hearing about how easy it was for your son to come out is a little stressful for. And i'm sorry. I i mean i guess i could have been an asshole about it but i you should have been and you. I'm in show business. I can't have queer here. it doesn't just me out really i mean. I think that i find it. Very sincerity sincerity about. Most things makes me a little uncomfortable. So yes yes. But i think i think the people who get sincerely jealous of Young queer kids and actually have to process like oh. I'm so intensely deeply. Also i mean i. It's very funny to me. That i had the experience that i did it being so scared of coming out and so badly wanting to be normal and now there are kids. Seven-year-old drag queens emma. Get the fuck has happy. I'm happy for them. And i don't harbor much actual jealousy about it. It's just very funny to me. Yeah and it's very quick. It's happened very fast. You know like when you consider that ellen degeneres coming out as gay on the sitcom was a world ender and that was five minutes ago. You know like an and now she you know well. Things have changed. But she was america's sweetheart for a while there and no well and she she had a. You know it's so it's so funny the way that people the the with her quote unquote cancellation and people trying to erase all the things that she did. It doesn't have to be that way. We can have things true at once. She is a fucking pioneer we. Yeah every single queer person owes ellen degeneres a massive amount of gratitude and also ellen degeneres has to reckon with the fact that she presided over a workplace that was racist fucked up and not cool like there are a lot of things that can be true at once but the queer community ozone degenerate. What absolutely and and it. Also just i mean the fact is most heroes and pioneers and you know norm breakers third little fucked up. I don't know whether it's the burden of being that or or just like you know. A lot of really special heroic people are that there needs to much there too much to be one you know like in real life to be a real person and it's one thing for them to be a symbol and to do amazing things but that caught that costs a lot of like psychic energy and it has a cost that weighs on people. They probably make some a little fucked up you know and so it's like yeah that makes sense well and also you can't no one can. This is in no way excusing. I don't i don't actually know the full the full breadth of what went on at eleanor. What people are upset about. I trust oh i do. Oh i do know. I don't know i know a fair amount but why also what i do know is that people can play a lot of things like people when people are trying so hard to go after somebody they. I saw people sharing at some point like allen's monster. She makes people chew gum before they go in her office because she doesn't like bad breath. And i'm mike ultimately if you make two hundred thousand dollars a year Working as a producer on a tv show and someone asks you to chew a piece of gum. Just put the fucking gum in your mouth and gm likes that kind of thing. That's so petty and stupid with actually important and big things like presiding over workplace. That is problematic and it all becomes. This big jumbled massive like very unclear very unfocused criticisms on somebody who is probably more nuanced complicated than we're allowing for And then it just lets so then everybody just ends up on the side they were gonna end up on anyway. The us wing super leftist type. People are going to be like this bitch should never work again. And then super right wing people gonna. This bitch never work again. But it's fucked up that people care that she was racist. You know it's like yeah well. I mean the racism is is racist. Sexist like the the culture the sort of culture of sexual harassment. There was pretty bad apparently but also to. It's like the fact that she's kind of. I think that people were really surprised because she had this sort of image of being you know about fun and love and caring and kindness and she's kind of a distant person you know and like is like has a distance tour and there's an a. She's a stand up. Comedian get to know a few ups. They're all fucking weirdos. They're all like who can only exist on stage. I mean i. I have known so many ups throughout my life. Who and there's it's a very specific brand of up comedian. Who i see them once. And it's my friend that i know and love and that we have fun together and then i'll see him a week later and it's person i kind of know a little bit and it's the exact same person just depending on their weird fucked up mood you know and i say this is someone with weird fucked up moods i also think go out about like how much you can live up to like like. I don't even. I don't like talking about myself. Somebody who has a public persona. But i there are strangers on the internet. Who feel like they know me and they will message me. A lot of times and be like a manila. Can we please hang out. I wanna be your friend. And i it really. It used to. I used to want to respond to be like. Yeah that'd be. Because i want to meet new people and i think that'd be a fun thing to do. Just go out with some stranger. But i don't do it because i'm like i'll never live up to whatever you think for good or for bad one way or another when you have a pair of social relationship with somebody And obviously allen is on a much different bigger wilder scale but anytime you have a social relationship with somebody that you only know through media or the internet or their stage persona or whatever. You're not you do not do not have a realistic understanding of what it is like to spend time with that human being. No you can't and also and i mean and there's a whole series of thought about when you're a public person and contacting people intellect fans that wanna get in touch you there is. There's a whole a school of thought that's like never respond to anything. You've got your safest bet. That's you know they'll because somebody can send you something and and if you don't respond they can think well you know it got lost in a. Yeah they didn't see it yeah Whereas if you do respond in there some because there's crazy people you know that don't exist in a in a regular world and you know and to bring it back to ellen. We don't have any idea about the level of serious threats that were made to her and enter partner in porsche. I worked with porsche on arrested development and We are doing a night. Shoot three o'clock in the morning. And i just kept there. Was this really handsome guy in a suit who's dressed like an agent. And i was like who is that guy and why is he around and he was standing next door and i saw that he was armed and i was like. Oh shit that's porsches security and like and he's not there for for no reason in right like you don't have you don't have as a bodyguard with you just for fun just because you're a good time. Yeah somebody. there's a reason that guy has to be with her around the clock. And that's that's when you see that it's like oh okay. Yeah who can say how fucking weird that would make you how scared that would make you. How distant that would make you. You know and how just how detached from reality like i you know i have in the last like my career has been very different in the last year and a half than it was when i was in chicago doing shows for five people Yeah and i've met a lot of famous people and it is very new to me. And the thing. I've been so surprised by just how out of touch a lot of famous people are oh rich. 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That's o k dot com. Now were you like were you the funny guy were you like you know i i mean. I think i was goofing often and laughing with my friends. We thought we were all funny. But i wanted to lawyer. That was my big thing. I wanted to be a lawyer. Very badly What kind of lawyer did you have a particular kind. Oh i wanted to be a constitutional. I you know i looked. I looked up to like thurgood. Marshall i was like i wanna be i wanna be like a big american hero guys. I yeah who does. Who does the right thing. And you know I want to be aware really bad. So i was very serious about school activities and being involved but i was when i look back. I'm like oh it was all a performance. You want it to be in soon council because you is talking at the meetings and having everyone's attention it's like That wasn't about loving the process of student government. But i bet you ninety percent of the pe- you know that's ninety percent for most people. I bet thurgood. Marshall really loved hearing himself talk. I mean it's show business for everybody you know like at a certain point. There's those kind of jobs it's like being a minister that's show business is just like it's a very particular kind of show business like your i'm gonna do shows. They just happened to be on sunday mornings. And they're about being nice to each other. Yeah you you have a very dramaturgical view of the world. The world is a stage where all yeah exactly exactly so so. You went to college close by you. Stayed in two state. Yes i went to. I really wanted to go. The story of my life really If boil it down Next i'm gonna move to new york. That's the that's the quote. I would use to sum up my life In high school. I really wanted to go to new york. I wanted to go and be. I wasn't out yet and come out until after my freshman year college. But i wanted to go and live in new york and thought would come out there and I to some schools there in philly and Really wanted to go to a city on the east coast and Didn't my family does not have money. So i got a good scholarship to go to missouri state a leadership scholarship. Whatever that means. And i when i saw i was gonna stay i. Also i didn't quite have the was like a half a point under the car. This is so fucking little. Lame of me like i didn't technically qualify for the honors college at missouri state. So i and there was no petition process. So i wrote a letter to the director of the honors college. Being like i'm serious. I'm serious about my education. And i deserve to be in the honors college in. Here's what and they let me into the college. So i was like okay. They loved my letter i can. I got the scholarships. I'm going to go there and i went to missouri. State studied sociopolitical communication. Doing a pre law stuff. And i loved it. I really had such a blast. Yeah i loved it there. I joined a fraternity. Which is hilarious isn't a fraternity. All four years. Yeah because i was like. I want to go. You know. this is how people get into law. School you gotta know people you gotta make connections and i kind of. I rushed a little bit as a joke. I i was like. Wouldn't it be funding by. And then i met these guys who are like actually pretty cool and i actually had a good time with them and then i decided to join. It was a decent experience. There was a lotta shit Throughout that particular like the last year and a half of college. I pretty much was like. I'm not coming to meetings. You're not gonna find me and let's just ride this out like i'm done with this but that was what everyone did. You know what i mean. I did i did that. I mean i transferred. I went to university of illinois for the first two years and then i went to columbia college in chicago for film school And i my freshman year a bunch of caboose friends with the guys in my dorm and we all rush the same fraternity so we we when we came back our sophomore year. That's when we did our pledge week and all that stuff so it was sort of. I only had one year and i never lived in the house but i was surely after i became an active member. I realized this is not for me. Ninety way i'm going to an. I'm moving on so i stopped. I did the same thing. I stopped coming to meeting. I just would show up for parties and there would be like because it was a definitely divide between the guys that were fun and the guys that were kinda dicks and oh one of the dick guys would come up to me like you're behind on your fees. You shouldn't be here at the party. And i was like well. I guess you could throw me out. You know if you want to do that do that or you could. Just let me have a couple more cups of old style from the k. I mean let me suck up another twenty six cents a beer but yeah it was it and when you're young too i think coming from a small town you think. How am i going to have a social life. I don't know how to do that. Here's this place that seems to be all about like the you know where you can have a pass absolutely passive social life. Yeah and i didn't do theater in high school or anything. I never performed. I was never inquired. Were plays or any of that stuff so my social life in high school was around like student organizations and the fraternity already life is. There's are extremely strong and vibrant studio innovations and so me and committee eatings and party jetties and of you know so the off my sophomore and junior year I was very involved. I was like the pledge educator. I lived in the house. They did all this stuff and yeah i just tried to make it my thing like there were definitely guys that were like you know you know breaking hotel doors off at formal and sorting out are all off of it doing that and then i would show up at meeting and be like guys. We really need to get our grades up. It's embarrassing you know. There are definitely a bunch of guys in the chapter. Who are like this fucking loser. But i'm like yeah a balance. I guess you know the guys that throw the great parties and you have to have the guy who yells community who make sure the heat stays on. Yeah so yeah that. I was hardly out in in in an for a fraternity. No i got very lucky. The guy yeah. I there were a couple of guys who i know how to problem with it and probably still have a problem with it. They weren't my friends. We just happened to be in the same organization Almost nobody cared even a lot of the guys. I'll say to one of the if there's a rewarding Less enter feeling that. I take away from all that. I think fraternities Should probably be banned I think they're bad organizations and a lot of bad behavior. Yeah particularly fraternities. But my experience was that i came in with a bunch of guys who were just fucking shit heads. They were like they were. Just they would say ba- bad and dumb shit. They would say homophobic things they would. They were just fucked up Eighteen year old guys. Who were trying so hard to impress people in pretend that they didn't care and it. I watched a lot of those is Over four years grow into like very cool. Good dudes who Didn't say fag it anymore and didn't know did have did have an understanding of what it means to be a feminist or a decent human being or there was a lot of growth and of course there was also a lot of regression but honestly most the guys who came in shitheads and left should heads either got kicked out flunked or For some reason didn't didn't make it like more than a year. You know what. I mean right right so it was interesting. I love a lot of those guys still in the ones. I don't didn't talk to then. Don't talk to now. But i basically in my social. I fell and of course with a bunch of the theater. Kids improv kids. And yeah yeah. Started doing improv. Like my sophomore year because I got massively depressed and was like i don't wanna fucking lawyer. What am i doing really. Oh yeah i mean it was. Because i went into college i went in like so just such a cornball i went in and i did like every leadership program i did every organization. I was the chair of this. And that and the other thing. I like won awards for like like the it was like. I was so intent on being a success. I wanted to prove to my parents. And my family and my friends and everyone that i was like i was successful and i was smart and i was doing good and but i didn't even stop and think of even what am i what i want out of this. Why am i doing this. And then you know it runs out you. You run out of programs to run out of things to try for. It's not exciting anymore. And then you're like. Oh what actually wanna do while. I don't want to be a lawyer. I don't really care actually about being the You know the parliamentarian for the whatever club. Yeah so. I started doing improv. Some of my friends. And i fucking loved it and then i started doing standup and characters and stuff and kind of decided that i was gonna move to new york again was like now. I'll go. Because i i lived in new york two summers in college i did some little internships in new york and spend a ton of time and then right before we graduated a bunch of my buddies from the improv team. Were like hey. We're moving to chicago. And i was like why And they were like. Oh there's a really good comedy scene there. And i was like i've never heard about it. Trust laugh in chillicothe. Nobody's prove it but these are all guys who read like comedy books and watch documentaries about comedian comedy. Yes scholars students. Yeah yes and. I was not that so i'll take your word for it. I don't have anyone to live with the new york anyway. Went to chicago best decision ever made. Yeah chicago is a great place to go learn comedy. Because that's what you're doing it for. You're not doing it. it's just an you can. You can catch yourself. i would catch myself. Like what am i doing like. Why am i quiet. Like why did i. I went to school. And i worked in film production and at a certain point. Add to quit film production to do shows to be able to commit to to rehearsal schedules and things for shows because in film production you get a job on a on a target commercial. It's to it's by for two weeks. I'll see you guys in two weeks as i'm working on this target commercial so i had to make that decision and it was like what am i. How am i. You know my mom to at the time. It's like okay. You know tables at lunch so you have times at night to do you shows and they don't pay it and like yeah i hey you but you pay them to yes and i just and i don't know i just kinda felt like it just felt like like well. This is fun. i'm existing i'm surviving. I know i'm getting better at this. I see other people get jobs. You know. I've seen like there was a guy ken campbell. He was an improv guy. any hosted. I think they were turtle races at some bar in chicago. That they may still do But he was kind of a b. m. o. c. The chicago improv scene. And he got a job on herman's head which was an early fox sitcom ed to be ninety one ninety two and that was like for a ton of us i think was like all right this here we go. Somebody can get a job doing this. You know because other than that it was just get lucky to be in montgomery ward commercial. They are locally but yeah it's it's You just. There's no reason you're just learning to comedy to learn comedy. You're not waiting for ages to show up you just you know. It's the best comedy scene in the country. I think because. I love new york and la. I love. I've loved every place i've ever lived Which is a not. I think you know a lot of people talk about new york chicago. There's at least one or two that they despise. I don't feel that way. Yeah i think every place. A special bishop. Cargo is the best most talented Comedy scene in the country. And there's because there's a bunch of people that yeah. I didn't know what a fucking manager was. I didn't know what an agent was. I didn't know you needed a lawyer. Once you started doing tv jobs. I didn't i didn't know any of that. I just mentioned chicago. Because i knew i wanted to make comedy my friends were going there and i read like three sentences about iso and was like. Oh i see the people that have done this here. That seems like a good track record. They obviously have a good thing going. So i moved there to start taking classes and it was kind of like yeah for the first year or two depending on who you are. Some people do longer less you. Just do a bunch of free improv shows for nobody. And if you're lucky what you get out of it. Is you figure out what you think is funny right and then you can maybe turn that into something else. You can turn into characters or stand up for sketch or something marketable. That isn't improv. That you can actually use to get a job or or Create a fan base or make a show And then you keep doing improv for fun because it keeps you sharp but chicago is the place you go to get good at comedy and other places are where you go to get jobs comedy. Yeah life is full of stressors. It doesn't matter who you are what you have. Your life is probably stressful so unload distress. Get it out. Talk to someone who's completely unbiased about your life. Someone who isn't going to judge you or take sides anything. 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You was a character videos online and was that a conscious decision like this is something that might get me noticed or was it just kind of you were doing it anyway and it just seemed you know i so so basically i was in chicago and i o has that Which i understand that. They didn't used to do it this way. So i know that i used to do their. Snl additions very differently. It used to be a group improv. But in the last. I don't know however many years since i was there and certainly a little bit before it's character showcase and you know sharona picks fifteen people after the end of month long very arduous process and she puts fifteen people up for warren and the head writers when they come to town so i have been practicing for that for like a year and doing characters on little shows and getting my set together and kind of just fuck around sake like i your first year. The trajectory of that showcase in chicago like six hundred people in the first round fifty or sixty to the second round in the third round. Is the final fifteen get in front of the actual people in they invite some of you drinks. Fly some of you out. Whatever will i was doing it your first year. No one ever gets to the second round really. So i was just kinda fucking around and was like i'm going to do what i think is funny and i've been doing a bunch of shows and the previous year. My first year in chicago. During showcase i was interning there so make sure that i was interning in the box office. On the nights where showcase. That's happening. And then i would sneak off and go watch like every single showcase that year to see what people do too much of what people don't enough whatever it just kind of researching and then whatever i did the first round. Got the second round This is my second year in chicago. And i was like. Oh great i. Yeah that's incredible. I can't believe i got the second round. There's no way i'm gonna get the third. We're home free on this. It doesn't have to be good. And then i did get the third round Which was insane. I was like oh fuck. This wasn't supposed to happen. I gotta do this shit in front of actual people. It's a huge sells out my ten seconds lauren. And everybody comes. So i did the showcase and then Learning colin and everybody invited me to drink. Or i guess the producers. Whoever i went to drinks with them at their fancy hotel and then you know i talked to them there which added about why for whatever and then. They asked me to fight on your do the screen. Tennis during all talks steve higgins was like do you make internet content and i was like no. I was kind of annoyed. I was like. Why are we talking about that. And he was like well. That's how everyone does it now. And i was like well. It's not a problem for me because you're going to hire me doesn't matter whatever it does because i have the job you know and i was. You know at this point and in chicago making zero money on comedy. I have no internet following. Because i'm not trying to have one free shows for nobody you know and so i was like whatever it doesn't matter i'm gonna get the job and that's going to be my thing and then i scream. Do all the stuff spend the time in new york comeback to chicago. Don't get it an agent who got during that process calls newness like. Hey you didn't get it. I cried for ten minutes. Went into the show. Didn't really think about it again. I mean it was sad but it was like whatever that's how it goes right afterwards. I was kind of like. I'm fucking annoyed by that. I did a really good set. I want to be on the show. And i was like well. Steve said that. I should make videos so i was like. I'm gonna fuck make i'm gonna i'm gonna make videos and i'm gonna make some. I want them to do well and i. It was kind of like i want. Snl to see this next year when they come to town they'll come back to chicago. They'll see me again. And i'll do the videos. Like steve said and then you know and so i started doing the videos and i don't know a couple months into making these dumb little videos on twitter they One of them really went off like it got like i don't know seven million views or something. Oh wow and i got like seventy thousand followers overnight. I think i had like three or four thousand at the time. And i gone fucked hunt followers of a bunch of you know people started reaching out to me about tv shows and stuff and like we want you to. Do you have an idea for this. Or whatever and it was really bizarre than followed it up with a series of videos that also got a lot of attention Where i was. I did a continued narrative. Threat of a bunch of videos was talking to a co worker about gossip and i ended every one of them on a cliffhanger Because i had wanted to do long form content on a website. A twitter where i felt like that was difficult where people didn't really hang around for stuff right. That'd be interesting. If i could make that work so i did that. And it got some attention. And then you know i got managers from it. I started writing for a tv show. And then somewhere on the way. I was like oh i don't wanna snl. And i really only wanted to do it then because it was a way to make money and get out of chicago. Which is there's no other in chicago. It's like you either got to get snl or blow up on the internet and those are your options out like. That's yeah that's how you get. That's either that or you make the jump to new york and you try to do industry showcases or something but it's it feels like those are the only ways and so i started making videos kind of out of Not spite just like why need to kill time before. Snl comes to town again. Yeah and that's kinda how it went. And i just rambled so much. Did you love that. Rambo oh no no was well. First of all was very informative and for me. It was funny because you said you know the way that that improv olympic does snl tryouts. Now which is just hilarious to me. Because like i didn't even. I didn't know that there was a like an institutional seasonable thing is. That did not happen when i was really. Okay now there is like there was one night. There was a show that joey solloway and her and their sister faith Did the realize brady bunch and that was a big hit for the annoyance theatre there And then they did a a show that was all women called the miss vagina pageant and it was like a beauty pageant thing and and there was like some we had but they were doing a show and i was at the theater that night and it was. They're doing the may have even been at the end of a brady bunch and they did a special like ver a special edition of the mitzvah china pageant but lorne michaels it was somebody from. Snl was coming and they said seats and then lorne michaels and quincy jones stroll in like theater which was a converted like it had been a drag club. You like it was a dump and it stunk and it was like plastic folding chairs and lorne michaels and quincy jones came in and that was the that was it. That was the only sort of snl he kind of thing even happen then. Know it's. it's all very formal. Now it's this thing. Where like they sell out the show. They reserve a row for us now. Seo snl people role in the head. Writers and stephen warn the show starts thirty seconds before they stroll in. They sit down as soon as they sit down. The show starts. Yeah and then afterwards the next day you either get a call that you're going to drink so you don't think like six people on the lineup got invited to drinks and then you go have drinks and there's no there's no agenda. It's like i literally when i was talking to warn. I spent probably five minutes talking about the chandeliers five minutes the chandeliers in the hotel because it was the ritz downtown. That i'd never been in a place with that many chandeliers it was honestly overkill like pointing out my favorite ones and asking him about his favorite ones and then the the speed dating so the girl comes by and says hey you guys move onto the next group and worn i'd only talked about chandeliers goes Five more minutes with this guy and so then we had to actually talk about something. That wasn't the chandeliers right right this very insane process and then arbitrarily you get invited or not invited to screen test and then some people fly again some. Don't some stay for multiple. You know it's it has become something that is very systematic for them but on the talent side of it. You're like. I don't know what the fuck is happening. Do i have a job or not. Well i mean. I don't know how you do it. I mean there's no sort of like fair way. Not when you got a tv show and you know you're gonna maybe you know if you're gonna pick any people you're gonna pick maybe two and there's sixty wanting it's going to be brutal in now it's gonna be ugly at some point and have all these different slots defend and you don't know who's staying and leaving and you know it. I think it's a. It's a very difficult job i My friends who work on the show are some of the funniest people in the fucking world. And i love them and they make great stuff on there and i think it's not it's not a job that i Want or need at this point in my life. But i i'm i have no ill will towards. It was a great process and it helped me get my managers and my agents. And i wouldn't have done started doing videos in less i'd had that. Conversation with steve higgins. So i might get. It was positive for me. Yeah yeah that's great. Well now what did trigger the move to la. Was there any one particular thing or was it just kind of like when you saw all the attention you're getting and you know and then you know because you do you get it does matter. It's you know it's there's things you like. I know like for selling a book. Like if you have if you have two hundred thousand people that follow you on something. You could probably sell a book just because you have two hundred thousand people. The idea doesn't matter. It's all just about you. Know how you can get your shit in front of people and if you have a built in audience people are like oh yeah hey why you know come you let us let us use you for something. Yeah matters exponentially. It's really insane. I mean you fight against it. I think it because you wanna be like. I think i had ideas about i. I still don't want to. I haven't done a video in months. I don't love doing internet videos. I do them when. I think i have a fun idea. That's easy to put out but you fight against. I think 'cause you're all i wanna do. That's not what i wanna do. I only wanna do what i wanna do but then yeah i was doing the same material in august of two thousand nineteen to like. I said five people who didn't pay for the show two of them are also on the show at midnight in an attic in chicago. The same material was doing then is what i was doing six months later when i had a hundred thousand twitter followers but my shows are selling now and it's like yeah it's just the internet stuff matters but i guess the the move to la. When i moved to chicago. I told myself five years. Go for five years. Do improv do whatever you want. How fun and if you don't have a reason to move to new york or la To do comedy on it for money or for something else. You should quit and go to grad school or go do something else. You should go do another thing that you're good at because there are other things you're could you don't need to do comedy And it's not to say that you shouldn't do it for longer than five years or anything just for me. I was going to do five years and that was was going to be up so i was in chicago for three years. And before the pandemic had. I quit my job. I was having meetings about writing for. Tv shows Everything was on l. a. Time but i was in chicago so it was a scheduling meetings and things kind of annoying Not impossible but annoying. And i didn't really think the pandemic loss for that much longer so i was like no. I'm just gonna go. Because i had already made up my mind to go anyway so i moved and i love la. I mean i miss chicago. But i love la as a city. And i kind of really got to know if i had moved here during normal times. I would've lived out of a suitcase for six months. Have been doing shows every night running around a hung pictures on my wall. I drove around. I got to know the city a little better and it was like it's had good sides but it was definitely weird choice during the pandemic is there. Is there anything that's like surprised you the most about from kind of you know toiling in obscurity to now kind of being known you know and being asked on a middle of the road. Podcast like this one. You know getting that change in your life. Is there the question. The question is how issue. I've changed from being on my podcasts. And yes yes. No but you know what i mean like. What's like anything really changed. Is there any surprises from you. Know from two thousand followers. Two hundred thousand followers. I don't i mean yeah. There are things that are different. I hate thinking about it. Really genuinely i mean i love the attention. I want attention constantly. It's obviously why do comedy. I wake obviously come on now but i hate thinking about myself as someone who has i. I don't even know how to put words to it. But i think Yeah there there are a lot of little realizations along the way people are incredibly mean but also incredibly kind people think they know you and feel like your best friend never had a conversation with them in your life People want you to die because you have opinions on the internet that they don't agree with half of which are genuinely jokes yes You know it also a lot of body image stuff. Like i. I really Didn't think about my body that much beforehand. I always kind of liked what i looked like. I like who i am. I think i'm Attractive and funny and interesting. I never really thought about it. But then millions of people or even hundreds of thousands of people look you and Say things to you about the way you look and you know you're doing constant self tapes and you're constantly looking at yourself and thinking about you're thinking about what you have to offer to an industry that is Incredibly homogenous and it just is. It's a very weird thing to be so conscious of your body and other people's perceptions of us constantly and our main mean are fucking mean. They're hardly ever mean in the fund way either. Because i will say i get some replies. That are like the meanest fucked but they're funny and that's rare. They're usually just brutal thirty. Usually just like like. I don't know why it's so much more brutal to be like if there's a joke wrapped up in it like you're so fat you extra seems like you're going to that. I can at least respect because there were some structure attempts. But when people just like. You're the fattest person i've ever seen. You should die straightforwardness of that. I'm like you meant it ruin but yeah it's just yeah. It's happening constantly. Think about i think even more than image. I think constantly thinking about other people's perceptions of you casting directors agents manager stands other comics Is this gonna last. Am i going to have another job after this one. All of that stuff is very new. I used to just make comedy with my friends for fun. And i am still doing that to an extent. But it's yeah it's just it's different problems. Yeah it's a weird you get used to it You know. I mean when i started after i left the conan show and you know was doing different shows and you know my mom would say so when this thing you're doing. How long does that last couple of months. And then what my. I don't know you're not you know that friday wiring. How can you do that. And and honestly after having done worked for ten years straight on the on the tbs show which you know in some ways like it was fantastic but in some ways it's kind of limiting you know i mean i am kind of off on coney island like i'll see you know mediocre comedies. Where i virtually no everyone in the fucking thing. And i'm like what there was no security guard role for me. I coulda done a day or two on this fucker. And but you know. I i had. I mean the beautiful things about as i worked on a show that means something to people. I worked with people that i love and i was home at night for dinner for ten years while my kids were from the ages of they were five and ten and now they're fifteen and twenty and and that was that's really all valuable valuable stuff but now the tbs show winds down don't know have no idea what's going to happen with age. Max so i'm back. I'm freelance again. And this fucking scary like unreal. Yeah everybody tells me oh you don't have to worry about that insect yet your. I'm the only person that can't go. I don't have to worry about that. I don't have to worry about and it's like you say about your looks on the same way. I don't think about you know i mean i'd like to drop a few pounds. I'd like to be younger. I'd like all kinds of you. Know i'd like all kinds of different things but in my life i'm happy i'm fine. I i feel like. I'm you know a lovable. Human being but then there's just that level of like no i do after think about how i look i do because it's a reality and i can be as swashbuckling and i don't give a fuck about all of this as much as i want or convince myself. That's what i'm doing. But no i got. You know you can't just you know they're gonna look at you and they're going to judge you by how by how you look they're gonna you know. Judge your voice by how you you know and also acting you gotta you gotta be good you got got you got it critique you know so you do have to care. You'd have to think about it. Although there is a lot of a lot not a lot of freeing yourself from carrying about a lot of stuff. That's like that's where the left. That's a skill you learn as time goes on like what you should carry about you care about and when you should just effortlessly saved now. I'm not gonna do that And not and not sweat the fallout supposedly from saying no about something. I think the one thing i started doing when i got to chicago because i was so like constantly thinking about Making it which is something. I don't believe that anymore. But at the time i was like i wanna make it and i started writing down. I had this notebook. Of course. I wrote all my bits. And i started writing down like anytime. I got too stressed out about that or other things similar to that they started writing down little catchphrases like little like Inspirational helpful like and i've had. I've had the change every couple months. Or whatever whatever i need at the time but my thing lately that i've been writing down over and over again when i feel stressed out as You're young and you have enough. And i think that's really having enough and not constantly wanting more is a thing that even in a short time in la having met almost exclusively cool. Nice people that. I really like and respect. There's just there's a. There's a desire for more of everything constantly that i do relate to but don't want to invest in. Yeah because it feels adopt. Yeah i don't wanna adopt. I don't wanna. I don't wanna feed it can be. It can be there. It can be okay. That i want more that i wanna do a lot of things still but i'm young. I do have enough You don't you don't really need the world and it's i think it's particularly in l. a. More than chicago certainly. And even i would say more than new york. There is kind of Something in the era of like anymore. Yeah and i think it's interesting. That's well that. I one of the things that quotes. I remember somebody saying the screenwriter. Patty triumphs ski. Said once that the desire for fame Is perfect is a perfectly fine motivator. When you're young like go for it if that's what if that's what you're fired you know. It puts the fire in your engine. Go for it but at a certain point you gotta turn off because it will make you mentally ill. I mean he didn't say that yes. I do think like yeah. You come out here and it is like there's all this know it's like you're presented with a ladder and you get on one wrong and then you look at other letters. You're like holy shit twenty rungs above me. You're literally bathing in gold. You know like how. Can i not want that and you get knocked off the ladder and you get another ladder and you start again and it's sort of run by wrong but yeah but ultimately you're right it's about if you have enough you're making a living you know that that was another very mid western concern of mine. When i came out here was just look at all these people making a living. They're all you know like i don't need to be. I don't need to be bill. Murray but you know. I could certainly be like one of those guys we are like. Oh yeah that guy. I've seen that guy one hundred things. You know that a character actor. That's great you know or just doing fucking cartoon voices. Like i know people who are really good living just doing cartoon voices and what a life like how what life. I can't believe the number of people that i have never heard of that. Do very well. Yeah as writers or producers or yeah voiceover actors or whatever. I never get anything on screen years with deals writing things that never get made. It's like you know. I mean that's that's a. That's not a particularly fulfilling way to exist. It's their eight hundred thousand dollars for a script that they're not gonna make. That's absolutely right people do that. There's worse there's much worse things to do with your time when you know earning a living without now. I mean kobe is. It's you came out here too weird time like like you said you. You had a weird introduction to la successful you know. Burgeoning success in comedy Is there something like what are you looking forward to what is like what is kinda like if things really workout in the next couple of years how you want them to. What do you think what does that. Look like i I wanna do shows when. I want to with who i want to. I want to go. Oh well fucking laudi us christ. Okay yes you wanna hang out with your friends okay. I want to work with people you love. I want to cook in a stove. Made of gold okay. What diamonds on my light switches. Yes yes no. I want to do. That is in the in the live space. The thing i'm most interested in. I don't need to do don't need a special. I don't need to stadiums or anything. I just wanted to show people i like. And that's space. And the thing i really want to do is acting in tv and movies and directing. I just shot a pilot four. Tbs that i were waiting to hear back now if it's going to go or not really love everybody who's involved with it. So i mike that would be kind of cool You know to even if we only got to do a season. I think you really cool And i yeah. I wanna i wanna act. I wanna make stuff. I am really right now. Trying to think about like directing mike okay. I've i have been on sets. But i have some friends who are directing really cool shit and i wanna like when things are a little more normal cove. It's not so fucking. Derailing everything i wanna just like go shadow people and learn more about directing and stuff but i think in the next like i'm thinking mostly in months at a time and i think in the next year or so if i'm i'm selling animated show that we're almost to the end of the deal on the pilot. Were waiting to hear back on. And i'm writing a movie about a gay country music star. Why i think if those three things. And while i have another. There's another show. I'm working on. If my the things. I haven't development Would just progress even slowly. I would feel really excited about that. Yeah yeah i wanna be all happen at one. She'll want to kill yourself. I'll probably get sued by somebody. 'cause i don't really know in do that but that's the problem with putting a lots of irons in the fire it's like oh no they all heat up at once but the fuck is going to have who. Yeah but i mean. That's you know you figure it out every every it's all just making one decision after the other just as they come. Don't get too worried about you. Know i i kind of do whatever i want and just trust that my lawyers have gotten under control like i might. I might lawyers my lawyers. He's already saying my lawyers literally. I was listened indy. I was shocked to learn that if someone asks you to. Tv show and you're already doing another one. You're not allowed to just say yeah. I was like what they're like. Oh yeah you're lawyers. Have to negotiate to say i can do. I'm not even at work right now. There are doesn't matter it doesn't matter that is fucking insane to me. I was like. I can't believe this guy. No the the you know they own you. If you say yes to a tv show they own you own your tv nests for a while. There i was shocked. I was like they can't do that to me. And they're like yeah they can't they. Can't i mean yeah. I literally i literally no nothing and just walk around going. I can do that and this goes no. You can't and i go. What do you mean. Go ahead go ahead. I was just going to the last thought i had on that. Was i the whole time. I was in chicago pretty much. I didn't see my family a ton and then Because going home just took so much time away from work and show so i went when holidays or whatever but i really want cova obviously to slow down and i want to go see my family more. I like. i like being in being missouri and likes my family. So i'm hopeful that August to do that because that also is a really nice like privilege of having free time such a privilege i. I'm just having time where you have the money and literal like open calendar to go and see somebody or something you like is such a massive privilege that i just don't think people who haven't really think about that often. Yeah it's crazy well What have you. What did you learn both good and bad from this. You know from this relatively it said you know we're talking about a relatively short period of time from you know from from your life changing What what are the things that you've learned so far. Do you think the tell someone else who's like interested in a similar path. I just i feel like in terms of the work stuff comedy stuff. It's all lock you have to be prepared comes. But it's like good luck. I hope like finds you That is that is what you're waiting on. Is someone to come out of nowhere and survey maybe and if feels insane to be waiting for that happens quicker for some people than others. But i think it's all luck and i think on the life front the more important thing. It's just all about good people been. It's just hanging out with people spending time with people who make you feel good feel so basic and like cross-stitch on a pillow type shit. But it's like the thing i was talking about earlier of loving every place i've ever lived. I've loved every pittsburgh. Because i've always hung out with cool. Good people that. Make me feel good. And i think it's hard to have a bad time when you're hanging out with like nice interesting cool people who are nice to you and don't treat you badly they like you know that's that's the that's the whole thing. That's the whole point of everything is hanging out with good people Hopefully you get to do it at work too. But at least in your life yeah. Yeah and it's it's been very reinforced to me. Definitely especially because of covert and because of just things changing and moving to a new place in the middle of the pandemic and You know not seeing my family for. I didn't see my my family thanksgiving before the pandemic and the not at all until i got vaccinated in march of twenty twenty one. So you'll well a year and a half long time of not seeing anybody in my family. Yes so i think the big thing on my mind lately has just been good times could people. That's the whole point. Yeah well good luck to you and thanks for for coming on here and and i will Keep watching what you're doing. Because i think you're pretty fucking funny. Any i welcome. I thought this was mostly fun. And i think if i could give you one. No it would be all the homophobic slurs that you were putting in the chat during the podcast recording. I wouldn't do that next time if you have a gay guess. I thought that was overkill. No i meant. I'm a fan of nellie. The rapper yeah. I just i don't know the all the stores you're typing. I thought were totally random. I was leaning on the keyboard. It's so weird. It came out that way. Yeah they came out super clear sentences. That would really not like to see but thank you for having you got that. Thanks for having me. this is fun. Jerry thank you and And thanks all of you out there. for listening and we'll be back next week with three more questions of some unsuspecting question. E that was a terrible sight three questions. Within directors team cocoa production it is produced by leeann gurvey engineered by marina pies and talent produced by lisa. Hayek these associate producer. Is jen samples supervising producer earn player and executive producers. Adam saxon jeff ross. A team coco and colin anderson. And cody fisher it. You'll make sure to rate and review the three questions at andrew director apple. Podcasts tell pro. This has been a to cocoa production in association.

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You're in the New Year I was I was on Long Island No. No, I'm back. Oh, you are. You're in again I'm back in on the West Coast as we call it in the end it should be noted because we were in Long Island for a while I got your I just got your baby present yesterday L. Rally last night because it had gone out there and they got their got their when we left. And then had to be sent back here, and so I just quite literally got my hands on it last night. Oh, good I'm glad you got. So thank you very kindly. Blanket. Yeah. It's Silky it's my kids were turned onto them at a young age. They're just like little satin blankets that babies love to like just. Hold onto like a super villain like rubbing it between their fingers and my daughter's fifteen, she still sleeps with. Were your daughter's a super villain though well, she it yeah I mean yeah. I mean she's You know she's it's her island layer that she siping by. Yeah on her big stash of nerve gas. Beer that she wants to sleep at it at I didn't seem comfortable to me. Neither I derive great pleasure from sleeping on the nerve gas stockpiles. That's good to have you back how covid it World Ben for you as a new baby that's gotta be weird. It's been awesome. Andy, what a great what time to be alive? I. You know idea of welcoming new child into this world out right now is just felt. So it's just really buoyed may up right Well, it is a lot of times when you have a baby, you feel like obliged to really care about what happens to them. But with this one, you don't have to you know this whole fucking places going up in flames and in no time. So it's like this kid you know they'll be more like a friend and his son. Yeah. He's more like a Felli like a fellow soldier. Exactly Human Alice Fox old mate. Yeah. Yeah. Who's just gonNA pull his weight And hope not to get trench foot I. Great. You know I mean look it's been such a weird time in and then he's been such a blessing in and he's doing great was came a little early and classic our net. So. Don't tell everybody. I'm sorry everybody doesn't know that that's my hallmark. and he he was born may twenty seventh and it was you know You know right in the thick of the of the the sort of the cove lockdown out here in California, and in the in the you know the riots in in the protests and it was just such a crazy time and. There was quite literally like smoke coming into the hospital and he was so little and we were nervous and we had destroyed. It was just a weird. Yeah. Bizarro time in. But of course, it was just that's it just was the time that it was in nothing we can do about it and we just sort of you. We're very lucky. So and he's healthy any sort of made it out. He was in the nick you for a minute and now he's out and So it's you know it's Yeah congratulations thanks. Yeah. Now wh- before you had another because you have two boys who are like in their teens now right? Well, ten and almost twelve. Yeah tenant. Yeah. was it daunting the prospect of going back to baby bill? The Yeah I, think that I A glossed over it. I just was like, yeah, it's no problem. Yeah. I did it. I know what I'm doing and then and then it hit and I was like Oh my God yeah. Yeah. Who told me this was a good idea. That's right. My life is not my own. What's what's that noise crying? WHO's crying? Baby is at that's errors. You know boy. A obviously, in you've heard this so many times people talk about is like we were programmed as being to forget that. Yes. how how hard it is especially those first three months and So I had forgotten and I mean now that's all. It's actually been great and has been okay but it's just not ever. It just takes it's toll and it's horrid. It's hard on your partner and it's been but it's been. It's been good though we know we made it through and I kind of feel like we're just sort of like coming out of that I bubble. Yes we came out he was really little and he was You know like I said he came on early. So that's scary and all that kind of stuff but he's yeah, it's great. It's amazing when there's Like different health issues that you have with your kids or scary moments, you have especially when they're little how they just you don't even almost and they seem so terrifying I mean we had a couple with our kids. And their. But then when they're past, you're just like you don't even remember it. You're like Oh. Yeah Right. There was that moment where we were terrified that kid was going to die any moment you know yeah they're all those well, yeah certainly, and then it keeps going to I. Remember we were talking the other day because like rt's had so many stitches and you know he's not even twelve yet and he he started young like. Maybe four and he got like seven stitches in Fourth Ed and is he a daredevil or is it just kind of clumsy? He's not even know he's not even clumsy. He's got good coordination is just he kind of flings himself at stuff physically oh yeah. He's just kind of like he he he's the kind of kid he he quite literally does this he runs one direction while he's looking back another direction. In animals like you know you're really going to hurt yourself if you don't look where you're going. and. It's been A. Basic rule in in in the human user handbook. He he last I forget how long ago was it wasn't it was within the last couple of years he had to go. He ran in the kitchen he ran into this chair and he ended up having to get stitches between his toes. It would end and he'd like slaves so gross. And this is like the third or fourth time he'd gone for stitches and this time we went in in the guy said. And I've been there before where I've had to hold him down when he got him in his head and he's like four I to hold them while the guy was giving him stitches and he screaming my like looking into my eyes going. They way you're doing this and I'm like Oh God, it's painful your kids. So, by the time, he's like Tan and getting the stitches in his foot and the doctor goes you can come in, but we can do it in. You know my nurse can hold up the gay that's fine. I'm like I don't need any more at this point have already held him four times. He already rem associates sheer terror with my face. Yeah. Yeah. So, also daddy wire. Why are the? Why are you doing to me because you keep fucking up kid? For Christ Sake what do you mean? Why are we doing this? 'cause you're acting like zero. Because you're a loser. Loser. Telling I'm just telling you what my dad told me. You're a loser. And at least two, it's like he's getting the webbing of his toe stitch. So No, one's going to think that you were abusing him. Right. Like what kind of what kind of child abuse that we really good spot would see I will rub a piece of paper between your toes, son. Now is so painful to poor guy actually missed a school trip. It's was I was one of those kids that was. I you know. Knock I cut my head open you know like pushing back on high chair and hit a bookcase broke my leg room thumb. You know tons of stitches from cuts and Shit you know just. I. Don't I didn't do that stuff until I was like later like broke my kneecap. fracture. My kneecap when I was like eighteen. ooh And then yeah and I ended up having had knee surgery. My other knee like everything happened Kinda later for me which I saved it for adulthood for when it really hurt and. Yeah when your body can't bounce back as oh. My God, I'm so odd turned fifty Andy Alrea leave me can you believe it me? It's not fair the Guy Young Guy I've been fifty for fifteen years. I know I know Remember on your fortieth when we went away, you mean in Canton Johnson when you turn forty and when you on your fortieth, you turn fifty. That's how did it was weird. You got to see it. Yeah. We went away. That's right. my fortieth birthday we had boys weekend of playing golf. And Because it because yeah. Golf in steak and because. You're going to send. You to of you tubular sober. Just sat and watched me drink. Order another would. Watch me like like you were old men watching me jerk off for something. You'RE GONNA say that I remember you were like a couple of drinks in we were. So enthusiastic were like any more and you're like, you're kind of mad. You're like you guys just want to watch me journey. Feel like you know it had nothing to do with my panache like the way that I drag with just the drinking you could have been watching any but. I. Just it took all the romance out of. It was A. Fun. Weekend was really fun well now you luckily you have dual citizenship do you not I? You could bug out of here you know. I can head back to the homeland at any. Scoop up all the kids and just go or maybe he'll leave him is that. What? I'm new country I. mean new country new slate startled over. I'm just GonNa go back and then I'll go do one of those surgery changed my base right and I'll just. I'll go work at a Tim Hortons in back in Canada and I'll just forget it. All right. We'll new face you should just like become drake. IDEA. You know you go to Toronto and your and you go there as drake. You'll be set. I would be I if I was. You're right. If I was drinking Toronto for get it how could that be yeah, I don't have to work I'd buy Tim Horton's. Drake. Yeah Yeah I wonder if owns any Tim Hortons I met the guy. Once you seem really nice I was coming out of I was waiting outside of a hotel in Toronto. At like six in the morning in dead of winter to do some press for something in and So they're like your car service is GonNa come down and I. It was like maybe even like five, forty five. So it was still dark and it was going heavily in this. This SUV pulls up and I and there's nobody else in front of the hotel early in a desolate and I thought was definitely, I went out it was freezing and again out at a a about two like just grab the during get in the door open and drake got out. And and it was like Oh. Sorry. I thought he was like, Hey, what's up came man and we started chitchatting and which was cool and then, and then the guy said I got a text that MOM's no. You're a few minutes later you can go back up and chill out and I was like, Oh, great. So I walked back in than we had like A. Not, awkward but we had like an elevator ride I. Guess at the time he was living at that hotel, and so we get on the elevator together and then he was like we should hang out sometime and I was like, totally we should. And then he got it right and that was. But my number is You know. Don't you. I'm sure drake is listening to this drake reach out drake definitely reach out my number is five five five. One two, one, two people don't do that joke anymore in don't they don't and they should. It's a good one. Five that was. The old version Murray Hill thirty four. You did you ask Drake at all about degrasse? That's what I WANNA know I didn't I thought that I thought that if I if I open without, he'd be like, okay this clown wants to come in you know. Appreciation for my music. Yes, the bring up much grassy much like when Jimmy was in Degrassi no one really cared about his music that nobody did. But I mean yeah. He he was into grassy and what's Cool Drake his State in Toronto he is an icon in Toronto and his State and he stayed there and he's built this huge house and he's just like Toronto and I get it. It was actually a great place to live. I spent a lot more time there in the last couple years. aisle joking aside I have I had moments where I thought like. I'd go back. Yeah I have. I've had a few moments like that and I and I like what Drake's done and I think that I like that he has brought attention to Toronto and then he's kind of treats you promote the music scene in Toronto I think it's kind of cool. Again. This is I think he and I should be friends right Right. He often he brought an NBA title to Toronto that's really jumped and he did bring. Don't I guess he did. He sure did right without drake that would not without Drake Aubrey Graham, that would not have happened. I would love you to get one of those morning drive sports shows and with with some of those sports as. And, you'd be like. It was drake's doing. He brought you no like a hip hop flair to an otherwise white northern city. We got Andy Richter on the phone here with Boston spots. Just calling ABC Faulk Yo, Drake and. Now, I get know there's people that do a little bit of research for this show. I think it's Wikipedia I mean come on what are you want? Nobody makes any money at this? Oh, you got podcast. Yeah Yeah of course. It but I saw something that like you got kicked out of boarding school, which was I mean 'cause I know so much about you. But I didn't know that you've got kicked out of boarding school. Did you not know that now? Have we never had this now? I mean unless you're gonNA WANNA talk about it no, no, it's fine. Here's the thing. I because I still. They had a problem with class. A. Drugs in an. and. This is on law. And I WANNA get into a bunch of lawyers no, no no we so. First of all, I always contended that I wasn't kicked out, and this is a very sort of find distinction to make but I was asked not to come back, oh? Right. Okay. So I wasn't kicked out like Midyear I finished tenth grade and they said. You know handshake like we're good here, right? Yeah. Yeah Fuck. Yeah, and it was again I'm out and You know I gone I was I went to boarding school when I was twelve. Which I now I now realize you know having my own kids how young that is. Yeah. It was a different time. It was a different era was different I don't know. In Canada that time and whatever I I think that there were I went to a school the there was very sort of much more of an old school sort of style boarding school in a Lotta ways how how far from home. COUPLE HOURS YEAR OF, TORONTO, yeah up in in the woods or where they can't hear you scream. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. and. You know to be honest at first when I was excited to go. Because not that I necessarily wanted to go get away from home. I was just excited. I was twelve. It was like, yeah, I'm GonNa go to camp. In a way. They that a lot of sports there, and you're kind of outside and you and it was an outside outdoor oriented school like they didn't have a gymnasium. had no indoor sports it was all You know it's kind of like would have here in this kind of outward bound. Oh, really. Cool. Yeah. So like by the time you get like nine tenth grade like you'd get graded on things like winter camping and and running rapids in a canoe and stuff like that. That was your p. e.. Great. Wow. Yeah. So he had school and then you had a lot of outdoor shit like right rappelling down. So it was well, it is Canada Canada and gotta be rugged I dug it man like we went away like the whole school would go on a thing called expedition weekend were the entire school went on a canoe trip and they would stagger everybody out in groups and stuff, and you'd go on these lakes way out and it was like. I don't know. That's pretty fucking. Cool. Cool and now it's all boys or is it co Ed? It was at the time all boys it's now co Ed okay. So Again. So initially, I was into it and then yeah, there came a point where I wasn't as into it because you know. Twelve is one thing then you're sixteen and. You know on the weekends like you want there. There were no I. Mean we have weekends but like Y- There's nothing to do and your way up there and you couldn't do anything you weren't allowed to like go out and yeah we we wanted to go out and hang out with girls and do all that kind of stuff and so I started getting in trouble I started smoking butts in the woods and you know doing. A Little Dinky Poo here and there, and then getting in trouble. Yeah. and my parents to their credit realized that I'd sort of outgrown it and that. Wasn't great for me was integrated environment and so I went home. I came back to Toronto. Yeah and was it weird to come back home I mean when you've been away I mean I know your home for the summer. I. I assume you yeah. Yeah. Of course, is it because I might first two years of college I went away and then I transferred to a school in Chicago, and then like had to go back and live with my mother and it was. A bummer you know like I had been out for two years and the came back home and outs. Yeah. Who's was kinda feeling a little bit a little bit. Think it was a little bit and it had been. So Lord of the flies that I came back and I was like I'm the boss now you know. Boy No. That's not true. That's any like that with a maitre d' not ready. because. They never give me the table I demanded. That I deserve. But it was weird coming back. It was weird and I think that I came back. I guess I was like sixteen or whatever, and then by the time I was twenty I, moved to New York so is really Really only like four years and I'm really never thought about it. That way actually told this moment like the that adds up. I. Guess Sort of in a lot of ways mentally. I was already out of the House and Yeah Yeah. So by the time, I left and moved to New York and I was twenty i. Wasn't really that scary to me. Yeah. Well it just go back a little bit. What would what was the motivator I think like did the rest of your siblings because you've got three siblings A. Brother two older sisters and a younger brother Yeah had gone to boarding school to. Go, why? What was the motivation with you just to get you out of their fucking hair first of all? Yes. For sure because you know. Talking I'm a handful you know that. A delicious handphone sure and I like the Knicks. I was. I'd been at a school in Toronto. This called the Toronto French school, which is a very was a very sort of as schools should could schools should be was very academic oriented and it was very demanding. Yes it was. It was a it was a school that was really sort of confectionary oriented. No. French Stewart compared from the. We talked about the curriculum was all his career which was crazy because the show hadn't even come out yet. But they had gone to a school that was very much about very stringent and very tough academically and I think that there is a lot of burnout. Certainly, my sisters had burnt out soon they really good students and it was tough I. Mean I remember in Fifth Grade I took for a semester took Russian broke down like the sciences. Wow yeah an an and they took they did they broke down all the sciences into the different you know physics and chemistry and biology in fourth grade you had exams and you study it was really rough and I think that point my parents realize I doubt that was not gonNa hold my interest that I was like I'm blown out of this joint and. And so that was part of the reason that I went to a school that was much more kind of well rounded and. You know and my brother was quite is is almost ten years my junior and I think that. probably. I guess he was like to when I left and I'm sure that my mom was like I can't deal with you and a baby. You know and your older sister I think there was there are a lot of things Santa baby away I know. He's the stranger. That's what I kept saying is I was holding him over the railing. We're getting rid of the baby, right? Andy. Below look it doesn't take. You don't have to go to therapy to realize I was the baby for almost ten years and then he came along. You know. I know so but anyway I, you know I think my parents were really just trying to find a solution so that I could. Be Okay and And God bless him and and But yeah it was. It was definitely weird and then I came back in my sisters went to college and I was. And again I was just like I wanted to do something else and just never wanted to be where I was. Yeah. Did. You go to a regular high school then. I I went to what they call. An alternative is school for the first couple of years and graduated from regular high school. I went to three high schools. But. It again, it was kind of okay. I went to this high school for while that was run by my but close friend of the family, my godmother in and she ran this really cool. It was run by the Toronto, is a public high school but it was I could take theater classes and get credit for it and I had my own kind of curriculum in there. No actual classes. Wow. To do all that I just had to do all the work and have one on one. It was very cool and. Again they've been doing it for few years by the time I got there and the Toronto Board of Education you know liberal. Canada way to go Canada. Looking looking for new ways for kids to get educated that might be eight. Riot dare. I I know bunch of jerks. Actually that was a really great environment for me and I did very well, there was a it was awesome but you didn't graduate from there. No because I couldn't get all the necessary it was. It was basically because I couldn't get all the credits I needed to get he. Get like some door graduated needed a certain math and stuff that they didn't offer it. So I had to go and finish the for one semester at this other school. Did you go to college at all or did you just I went off to new? York I went briefly. I went for one semester. To. Concordia University Montreal. Yeah and and then I, remember. Not, cold enough in Toronto for you had to get Mondro were real cold. Oh, my God. It's ridiculous. It's and then I went back the next time I went back to Madrid was when we were shooting blades of glory and I was wearing a leotard. Chasing will. You know Farrell outside and. Freezing Anyway, I remember calling my dad and saying like. I went to college and I remember thinking at the time I was with a lot of people grown up with and summer at Concordia in a lot of them were at at mcgill where both my sisters went and. I remember kind of looking around and having this moment never is just doing what they're doing college. They're having a good time they're studying, but they're having a really good time. Montreal's a great party city. It's a grant town is unreal and yeah, we're and I was having a lot of fun too much fun. Really wasn't doing much school and a collect I thought I did have this moment where I went. I'm I'm just going through the motions I'm wasting my time here. This is a waste of time. and. Maybe these people are not wasting their time not for me to say, but I can't do this. This is gonNA. Where am I gonNa go if I just keep doing this I don't see any and I call my dad and I basically said that and my dad's been awesome throughout my life and a lot of times I didn't even realize until later in looked back of how many. How great my dad is Ben and he? I think that he could had gun one of two ways he could've thought. While you're such a fuck up and stick with it and no, you gotta stay in college and Doodoo and he really heard me and he went okay. Yeah and he said come on home in to get a job, and if you want to go to and he goes what do you want to do and I said? I. Think I want to go to New York I really think I wanna do this acting thing is well, then you'd better come home and make the money so that you can go. he was he was like I'm not pay to go to college I'm not going to pay for you to go. Do that A. To Your Dad to because he's he's not like a you know a a mosaic artist. He's a business guy like he's a lawyer, write a lawyer and a business guy and. You know a lot I don't know. Maybe it's just my mind of business guy type DADS would be like, no you need to get into business because I mean even my mom is supportive. She was you know she was in sales and she's like just when I was struggling when I was making no money and trying to do this for a living and not podcasting Jim who the fuck you there were such. what you will podcast. I don't know what it is mom but I wanNA podcasts it sounds dirty. It probably is. But She was like you just get into sales. You'd be so good at sales, which is basically saying like you should just like poor cancer into your soul like that was what it sounded like to me like get it sails like, Oh, you mean dot. You saying I should just die get fitted fitted what fitted for the Smith and West and you're GonNa to put in your mouth. So. Kudos to you're dead. That's why I love it. When parents are like, yeah. Whatever delete you know And by the way and and by extension, of course, my mom to they, they were very supportive in that way I mean was an obviously there was friction in those times and when you're they're worried about their kid and what's he is he is you know this is. Potentially, the road to ruin for this for the we might we might be facilitating major fuck up a major major fuck up and but yeah, he he really, he really heard me and. You know I I I look back. My Dad as you said, my dad is a fairly, he's not conservative, but he he was a corporate lawyer for many many years and then he went into business for one of his. Clients and he ran that business and he just did a lot of sort of those and he lived he lived in in a very serious world that had very It very set boundaries and and you know you do you do X. in Wyan in you'll get to see and I think that. There were times there were he really was able to think outside that and understand And it wasn't until years later it was actually a couple of years ago where I was able to kind of say to my parents. I really appreciate that I know that my life is unorthodox to you. And I really appreciate that you've been able to roll with me on it. Yes. Meant it's meant a lot to me and that I very happy that I was able to actually say that to them while they're still alive. Yeah. Because I do plan on murdering them. I want to announce on the PODCAST I'm excited. One One. No, but truly I. You know and And my mom is always been very supportive to I will say in in not in any way like you can go and do something in whatever she wasn't like. Yeah, I can't wait not at all like in. You. Know there's a lot alike, also like tough love on that too like you know even when things go great kind of like. you know. She it's hard. She's she can be stingy with the compliment. Let's put it that way. Right? You know. Yeah. Well, you know they know you to like the European Apple. No, you still like even when things are going good if there's something that's not quite right, they know that too. Yeah. Yeah. So, what when you you're twenty you go to new well and also to Kudos to your dad for San lead you'd better come home and make some fucking money. You know because again that's like, yeah, you know to just say like I'll write you a check and you go to New York. Oh boy that's a dangerous. No, my dad my dad came from my dad came from very little both his parents were teachers in in Manitoba and I know I know gross like the Least Honorable Profession? Teachers. My Dad's my Dad's dad my grandfather Emerson Arnett he started the Manitoba Teacher. Society like A. So he's a teacher any started a union and Oh, my God too. So that teachers could be treated fairly by all. That kind of stuff will pair of God is son went to the boardroom. Well, you know what? What's interesting is my dad was always my grandfather died when I was quite young my dad's dad and which was a pity 'cause I never got to really know him that. Well, by all accounts, he was a really cool great guy. In my dad felt a lot of guilt about sending me to. In his kids to private school. Yeah. and I think that it kind of went against a lot of you know my dad had nothing My Dad met my mom the first time he was you know my mom was at grew up in. And then they would go to the lakes to lake of the woods and they all these people had. These big cottages and my mom's family had a big cottage and my my mom and my dad at a party. My Dad was a boat boy for a rich family. These have this position of boy boy. Wow. Yeah. It was mostly a sex thing. I got at Magin. No fully sexist. By then it was just a fulltime sex, right? No, he was. You know he was like the guy who because they had these elaborate old and beautiful. Places on these lakes with these boat houses and they'd have these old mahogany boats that picking up, take a continent keep, and then he had to go and get groceries and do all that kind of stuff and it was like a summer job you know. and. So that's an my mom. My Dad was kind of like the poor kid who is working working the job is the boy yeah, and and then he's the skin and goes to a university in and school in Winnipeg than he gets a scholarship to Harvard, and he goes to Harvard based on his on his smarts, not like you know. you know a lot of kids who go with I what I'm trying. I'm trying to bring up Kushner because I'm trying to be current. I thought you'd anyone for Conan O. O. Forget CONAN I know I mean they just there was just a red quota, right? Exactly you know. But So anyway. So so my dad was he was a self made guy in a sense and I remember when I went to when I went to school with all this boarding school really some fancy people who went to that school including the Flea Bay who then the prince and he's now the King of Spain. Wow. Yeah and I knew which is weird, right? Yeah. Yeah. He he do you. Are you have you kept in touch with the King of Spain? Yeah. I'm the I'm the official gesture. Spanish chorale but I mean if you like if you. Bumped into him at something would he would be like, Hey, I went to school with you. Remember Yeah Yeah for sure I, actually, a couple of years ago is going to Madrid for again for some pressing, I do a lot of press I know. All kinds of stuff. Eight you I know. I know you do. Nothing but envy. Creed. With angry. I was I got from a guy who was his roommate a way to get in touch with them, and then I ended up going and I. Couldn't do it. I was too busy for the king. King Zari. I got a photo shoot. For Lego Batman. Yeah Lego Batman King. Sorry. Wave is just your voice. Why would they photograph you? By the way Ricky Germans always says to me like we joke around and he's like I don't know why you need to be in shape as a voiceover artist. You. Anyway you know So anyway, so I school a lot of these fancy types and I remember one time. There was some kids are GonNa go on this trip and my dad but I always had a job like on Christmas break and when I come home in the summer. When, a lot lot of these kids did not cause they superwealthy and my dad would be like, I. Remember gwent kids are going to trip and I said, can I go and he said, no. I said well, so and so and so are. So we're going goes. Yeah. Well, they're going to be losers. And You're not. And he basically was saying like you got to come home and fucking realize you gotta earn it. Yeah and these kids can go and have a free ride but that's not going to lead to good things and I, at the time member being like so mad about it. Yeah and In all these years later I realize what have what an unbelievable gift my dad gave me with that. He really did it was such a gift Do. You think you'll do that with your kids will away. At finish the question go ahead, finish the no because I mean I I I'm right there with you. You know mid Western. Nobody really had any money I. mean we were poor nobody ever. You know I mean obviously nobody went hungry but I would like. Because I was working when I was twelve years old I had a paper route and then I was working for my family's family businesses and I. Mean it was like three different wanted with plumbing kitchen and then my uncle had a You know a office supply like he built lockers and pallet racks and things like that. Off My youth was just riding around in a truck or crawling under a house or you know and I always felt with my kids like they're gonNA. They'RE GONNA learn each Affleck I. Did know but. There because there is something about having to work that gives you a real idea of. What I do think is the reality of the world, which is there is a lot of time when. I I certainly want my kids to be submissive, but there are times when you just have to do something unpleasant because you're there's some other thing at the other end of it whether it's to make money or you know whatever that's just the way it is. But like my son's twenty. And he's he's never really had a job like you know he we're getting to the point where I think he really should and he's done lots of kind of volunteer things. You know like he for a long time was doing. Environmental work, with that group tree. Here was like Oh they they clear trail heads and they plant trees and stuff and he he did a lot of stuff with them. But it was always just like to see for him to get a job that always felt like. He went to a pretty demanding school hit a lot of schoolwork and it just kind of never got there and it wasn't. And I'm not the kind of dead that's going to be like. You, get forty dollars, and then you know. You know I mean and they don't live a lavish lifestyle, but it's kind of. Was Tough you love your kids and you want them to be happy. So then you're like, well I wanNA provide and let them do this as. But what is the balance of what's good for them and what's not in? I remember well, two things. I don't know what it's going to be I this is something I've been thinking about a lot lately about what am I what kind of experience do I want my kids to have and? In 'em I you know. My kids are really lucky in lot of ways in in their parents have. Worked a lot in and done relatively well, and so they have a lot of opportunity and I wanNa make sure that that opportunity doesn't hurt them in the long run I had a good friend of mine who's a producer and he a couple years ago his son was in college. And he said Forget the circumstance of it was some sort of version of while he's doing this and it was the summer and he was like he's doing this and he's just kind of hanging around and Blah Blah and I said. You see how how you you at the time he was like twenty s you gotTa make him. Come back. Home and get a job. Don't he grew up with the. Kids. Yes. Dad Does really well I said I'm telling you if I've learned anything. Just do it. If he's having this moment, the best thing you can do is make him earn it right now himself. You're showing him how to live a life yet you were saying you give your kid money because. You know you WanNa have shown that he he should earn it whatever. But the thing is the experience you know you can't you can't buy that kind of experience and. Jason was saying Bateman on the show other day when our podcast that I said, have you ever had a real job like a real world job and he said no, and he said I really wish I'd had and I can see that he he was kind of 'cause he's we've talked about it before and we were talking about shit jobs I tree planted of for. Summer We got seven cents a tree up northern Ontario wow, and attacked by blackflies and we just a horrible crappy job sleepy intense it sucked. Yeah. Yeah. But that experience I've always taken that with me I I used to replace water main and sewage pipe with us and take out the pipe bust it with a sledgehammer in a whole I did that for five months At fucking sucked. but you know the experience. Incredible. And it makes you appreciate to like the times when you might WanNa get crabby on a movie set because you have to wait or something like that. That's why I always laugh too when you hear when I loved the sort of the refrain of A. Liberal. Left coast and West Coast You know elites or whatever you know. Hollywood unlike buck you bro. I. Fucking. Earn everything. I. Didn't have any success doing what I'm doing until I was thirty three. Yeah. All I did was fucking work a million jobs. All I fucking did was was work hard and and or and people say well, you grew up a riskin fuck off I've earned everything I wasn't given fucking anything suck it. Yeah I mean. If, you bust it up sewer pike. It's not like there's not a lot of there's not a lot of L. A. Kids doing that. No fucking way in a lot of people period. Yeah. Who would take that? It's a tough job. It sucked. Yeah I I was so broke I had to ride a bike five miles to the shop to get to then get assigned onto one of the cruise a thing so I'd. Ride my bike five miles and wasn't like a fucking joy Reid was in Winnipeg Manitoba and ride a bike and then get on the truck and go and bus pipe for twelve hours and then come home. Yeah and my arms were so sore that I couldn't fuck and lifting and all I do go home and get into bed and and fall asleep. Yeah. Yeah and just pray that the nightmare would be over. Yeah. Yeah there is something and also to is like I find because I look back on. Like when I worked for a moving company and I would, I would realize because I was also trying to start to get into film production at that time. And I work for. Ten eleven hours moving, and then I'd get on the bus and be going home. It just be a sweaty filthy mess but I would. Feel like. Okay but his done like I. Don't I. Don't I don't need to think about that. Now like that's behind me and I could sorta they're still there are times. Not so much now because now is weird than any other time in the world but when I when I'm like longed for just the simplicity of like the job of a house painter, let you go you paint the house and then you go home and you're not house painter anymore you don't have to worry about the next day painting the House. Will be there you know I. My sort of fantasy moment that takes me away sometimes is I remember I had this like. Studio apartment when Twenty First Street in New York Then I lived in for years and all I had was I had a Fuda, not even a full futons, just the mattress on the floor that during on the floor, the during the day would roll up. and 'cause was studios in my bedroom is also my living room. Yeah and Ed Roll it up, and then I had a I had a tiny tv that somebody gave me. And I didn't have cable stole cable I think ship that's a federal offence isn't it? It's okay. The statute of limitations because you're really old now. So that was vile ago. That's a good point. Yeah, and it was on a board between two milk crates and But. It was a very simple time in my life. I had no responsibilities. I was a young man and There are moments when things your look back and I go. I didn't realize how good I had it. Yeah. You know. Yeah Other. People, listening I I always this is the problem like talking about this kind of stuff is there are people listening to this whoever TV between two milk crates tour like fuck you you know But they can say fuck you but the thing is I did too. Yeah. Yeah. So like you know that's not some disingenuous like it's not some romantic notion now sought an picture right fucking at eight eat three meals a day so you can go fuck themselves how yeah and poor people no I hate your listeners they're so mean. The re questions, with Andy, Richter is supported by better help online counseling. If you're struggling with anxiety or depression or stress right now, you are not alone. Oh boy are you not alone better? Help offers online licensed professional counselors who are trained to listen and help counselor specialize in many diverse areas including depression, grief, anxiety, relationship conflicts, and more. It's simple. YOU FILL OUT A. 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Hello there I'm Roy Scoville I'm a comedian I'm an actor but most importantly I'm a dad an I'll tell you what as a father it is my sworn duty to tell you about my new show with team Coco called Dad's the podcast on each episode me and my co host Ruthie Wyatt are joined by a hilarious guest talk about the mysteries of fatherhood and parenting people like David Cross. CONAN O'Brien Sabrina Jealous and Roy Wood junior even if you're not a dad or apparent, I think you're really going to like this show so please check us out find Dad's the podcast wherever you get your podcast don't Miss it Anti Tell. My. Love. We'll now but you do go up to New York City twenty years old. Yup that what was that like? Was it party time did you have any connections to anybody? Did you go completely alone or completely loaded? Suitcase got off the bus. which got into sex work I didn't I got into this a little bit before he kind of P- relapse a little bit before I got there on the on the way there. I always loved this story about Steve Martin in inducting. Lorne Michaels is getting some a word and Steve says, Lorne Michaels moved to New York from Canada. With nothing but the shirt on his back and a cool million bucks. So is made me laugh. Yeah. Yeah didn't in no I didn't know a soul a moot I moved to New York I was twenty years the summer of nineteen. Ninety. And Acting classes right that. To go to acting at Lee. Strasburg, in New, York and. You know I got to know people in in through that you know and the those people. Made some great friends back. In those days in And then yeah that's that's that's how it started I just started doing that I. I. Didn't have much of a plan I. Probably should have had more of a plan had dinner other than just go and do this and just couldn't take it step by step in. I did that and it took a number of years and it wasn't until about. You Years Later I through this kind of way off Broadway show that we did I went to meet an agent and an agent came to see it and said come in and talk to us and I went to meet them at the Old William Morris. And This this agents said Oh you should go and talk to our voice over department. And I was like, what's that? And they said, you know like the voices you hear on commercials and stuff like that was like Oh. Yeah. I guess I never really thought that the yeah. Right their voices on so dumb. I do yeah and right and so I started. I bought a couple commercials and I booked a couple of voiceover things I. but I think it my first professional acting gig until. nineteen ninety-five. Actor. So how long were you in New, York before that happened five years. Wow. Viewers. Addition to bunch, and then I started I I did a couple of indie film I started auditioning for. I remember they were like you do some Sitcom addition for some sitcoms of like, no I'm a serious actor. Of course I needed the money I needed a job in and I was like, yeah. But yes, I'll read fritzy come. And and then I read for a bunch of pilots and wasn't until ninety six that I booked pilot with Kevin pollock. he was the star of this pilot for one dollars for CBS and whom I'm still friends with. That entailed La trips like is. Go to La. Doing it in New York and then flew out to La to do this pilot yeah Lou detest for it. back in the day they'd fly out here to test for the pilot so I flew out. Tested God at stayed to the pilot thought like everything's changing they went back to New York and the nothing changed. The show didn't happen whatever but I started. Testing more frequently for shows and I started spending, you know like that I remember that next year I tested for like five pilots in the next year at tested for like eight pilots and every year I was testing for lot was getting closer and closer for stuff and then I did a continue to a couple of indie films in there and then it was. Ninety nine I did a pilot with Mike o'malley, her friend and Kanda. Yet big pilot deal at NBC, and that one went to didn't and that one that went into going. And we did seven episodes the only to the mayor and we canceled again, it was one of those like this is going to happen finally everything's solve them boom. Yeah and it was just a lot of that Until it's such a weird thing too because you are being successful like in terms of like what you set out to do, you're being wildly successful just in getting to do that but it's still just like shoving your Dick in the dirt. Total. All right. Here we go. it's it's. It's of course, right? You being an end that didn't escape me I didn't feel like a failure like I knew what the numbers were I'd gone to school with a million people I knew tons of actors weren't getting worker getting even the opportunity. So the fact that I was getting the opportunity was a big deal I understood that, but it won't feel at a certain point after years it was like in what ways the in what shape is the disappointment gonna come in this time? Yeah can and it's not it's also too. It's. Not. Like you're being a baby about it the business makes you feel Shitty coarseness makes you feel bad about it they come in you start out like we love you we love and then it's like you know what? We don't love you and sorry but you know it's just it's not good. It's not good and that's the feeling you get from these people. It's not like well, you know it's this mysterious concoction who knows and sorry but we still love you is it just like we love you oh, now know what fuck you get out and yeah. It's hard not to take it personally. Yeah. It's very sticky Bursley and yet I understand I understand too that that I that ultimately would be my demise. If you do take it personally that you've got to, you've gotta find a way to redirect that an and that's always been I feel lucky that I've been able to do that I will say I don't know why maybe again is just sort of this naievety or something that I have but I managed to. I've had a lot of disappointments certainly professionally in my life and that's okay. Yeah, I don't. As I've gotten older to have done a better job of I've talked about this a lot. I, don't. I don't sort of gauge how I am as or where I'm matt as a person emotionally or mentally, or whatever is is not. Is Not indexed to My profession and I'm doing professional and just not and. I know it's not a recipe for success. emotionally yeah. So so I yeah. So I had a lot of disappointment. It wasn't until arrested development that actually got the but even. I will say I talked about this with somebody Talking about Dash But I. The day I got arrested today arrested development happened. and actually got it coming out of great. failure because I been fired from a show of the year before which felt really crushing is this house in two, thousand, one, the two, thousand this is early. Two, thousand, three, thousand, three Okay Yeah I've done a pilot the year bef-. Four. Identity pilot you before and The year before I done one almost every year and I did one with. Shero Terry. The Gut on that did not get picked up, and then I did one with at CBS called still standing in the did get picked up and then I was fired arrive my character was written out but. In effect I was fired. And it was a real bummer. And I then. A year later had that not happened I wouldn't have been available for arrested development. was change everything in, but the day I found out that I did it was going to. Going to series that I was on the show. It was like years it felt different and years of frustration kind of melted through and I actually. I actually wept. Really Yeah. Sweet Yeah. I, really did I actually like cried really hard. Because it was, it was frustrating and it was hard. Keeping Your Chin up I'm sure a lot of people will listen and be like Oh shut up you fucking. Love people like actors you know what? Man It's not. Easy. It's yeah. It's not easy. You take a lot of fucking. Lot of water. You take on a lot of water. In this thing, it's a, it's A. It's always weird to me like one thing that's that I still haven't figured it out. Is that really truly People doing this for a living and and I and I mean all different walks of performer types because there are lots of different types of warmers sure. Yeah Yeah. They're. They're like almost everybody has issues with rejection almost everybody like cannot take it like has lake a higher sort of like it hurts more. So we go into this fucking business that's a rejection party. It's crazy to me you know, and then the part that even goes further is and then and then there's award shows where the people who have actually really done very, very well and overcome that rejection parade set themselves up for more rejection hundred percent where there's like, oh There's eight people, but only one gets the feel good in the rest of you get to feel bad because you lost in a hunt one hundred percent and I don't put any stock anymore knows especially those award things you know it's just weird the emmys and I'm sure there'll be like emmy voters I will definitely never for now. I'm like, okay. I'm I have I've been nominated this year? I don't know what's happening with Bowe Jack yet but like I've been nominated between actor in Britain Beau Jack Seven Times. Yeah. Never fucking one and a Mike. So what? Bucking cares and yeah. Yeah. That's easy to say I'm mean it and asked me to do this is probably controversial not really controversial this go grad school but things but you know Bujak was nominated and they want in I've just never wanted they never they asked us to do like a Thing for the voters and stuff and I just. Not into it now. Thanks. While the you should do it. Netflix's would like you to do. Now. kind of done with that. I don't give a shit. Yeah fucking. Forget it why. Go do a thing for this. Panel for the. Thank fuck that WHO balking cares. Bucking cares, and it's and the people that will tell you. 'cause I've had friends that have kind of been in Oscar running counter duff and that's the really like. Crazy people don't know. But like if you're in a move, you get you get cast in a really good movie. To really good part and you do really well and people start to say you might win an Oscar that means for I don't know six months you to go to a constant stream of parties and. Shaking hands and kissing ass and just dinners with strangers. Just as it's this campaign, you're running for office to maybe get an Oscar which what it does. It makes you feel good. And I'm sure I'm speaking. Hypothetically. It makes me feel good. It put your rate up. You can make more money but ultimately what it does is it brings cachet to the people who own the thing. You know sure also like. You, you don't remember who won last year d how who cares has got a guess for the person but again, like maybe the person abs especially with an Oscar on a different level maybe there is nothing like two time Oscar winner Boba does that that feels good but. What is it really bring you and when you got to go, I remember hearing about a guy who's a still have very active director writer and he won. A. Couple of years ago and somebody said he's the best campaigner. This dude they said they goes he started in like October. He goes to all these dinners. He goes tirelessly he goes to screenings unite and talks about any ended up winning and people were like in this town were saying, yeah, he won. It was good but he worked it till the end and Mike. Will then. He didn't win by merits a right. Guinea win an acting award or a campaigning award. Yeah exactly. Yeah. In like how can I guess he can feel better about it but he knows. He won because he did all that Shit would've have won without it like they should. There should be no campaigning allowed. Yeah it should be just and. The other thing is you know people say I have never been part of a film like that and so I don't know what that process is like but they. Started in October and. They're not getting paid to do that either yeah, you know. So that's just. They can't work. Yeah Yeah. I. Don't feel bad. I just I'm just to curmudgeonly for it. It's like you going GonNa. Say like who's ultimately what's IT GONNA matter in the long run like like at the end of your life, is it going to? I don't think I ever told you this but like this. When this happened, I had elderly relatives and I was looking I that were in assisted living, and I needed to find a new assisted living place and so I was looking at all these different going in touring them and there was this one. kind of far flung out in L. A. Like not close and. Sad like basically it was. It was like the cheaper one of the cheaper ones and you get what you pay for is it was just like old people sit and stare into space. And it was a bummer and but the lady, the Super Chipper lady because they all kind of have. Sales people that are like you're gonNA. Love it, and then it's like, Oh, no I'm not. It smells like pee and everyone seems sad. But she stopped we're walking down a hallway and there was a woman sitting again just an elderly woman staring into space. And she stopped in front of her like she was a museum display pointed at her and said. Three time daytime emmy. Winner. And then we walked on. I was just like Oh my God if you WanNa if you were trying to bum me out late You lady, you could not have done a better job my God tweet daytime three daytime Emmy Winner, Oh my God. Oh One. That's one of the worst things I've ever heard it was really like. It's like it was like one of those things it was so awful it was exciting. I was like kind of jazzed by like Oh my God, that's such a bummer. Bar like, wow I know. Thank you life. It's. Yeah, I mean. An. Again it is to get back to our original thing. It was it's such a ultimately constantly demeaning business to be. In and Yeah I just. I don't know their days where you're just like God, it such a bummer. Is What did you set out to do do you are you did you have like a like a thing in mind or or were you Kinda just? Catch, as catch can and see where this goes. Yeah. I think that I I used to joke that I. Wanted. To be I wanted to be a serious actor. I wanted people to take me seriously when I was young and and then I kind of fell into doing comedy by mistake. or that people laughed at my serious acting. The. But I didn't really have a plan I mean I. I. One of my regrets is that I never got into sketch comedy early. Yeah, and then I never did it and Because I think I would have really liked it and you really good i. mean you are good at it. You know I mean. You know I mean because it's arrested is like, yes, it's a sitcom, but it's also sketches. It's of course it sketches. Yeah and so all you guys who who were from Chicago or went to Chicago You know especially when when Amy Nice or dating in sort of meeting all you guys like I was like Oh there was this whole world I would have loved to have been part of that yet just to just fuck around you know me I just WanNa fuck around all the time it's it was the best it was. It was just you know like those days of of youth have just been around. Like you're you spend your whole life? Doing whatever and thinking, make into this and all of a sudden you just around all these fucking Weirdos at are just like you just WanNa fuck around and have fun when I see pictures of like when I see pictures of you guys and you and stack and like all. McCain all those guys all you guys back in Chicago back in the day and Besser and and Yell Sh and whatever and I always like I'm like, Oh that was like. The boat I missed my hearty I missed and a, and I loved I never tire of you telling me like stories of I o. and like. The water leaking in. Sharma. freaking out or whatever the fuck. Weird. I'm always like that's that's the thing I wish I had done. That's my honestly is my only kind of regret. Yeah. Do you think and when you when you amy started dating was that an office he said that was kind of when it opened up your mind to that. Did it also open you up to the notion of being a comedian more or? I, I was already starting to do. Starting to do Sitcom pilots and stuff. So I was kind of Inet. Moving that direction. As, well as simultaneously. Aiming I started dating about. Seven eight months before she started on SNL. I've kind of moved briefly to La to get out of New, York and And then she came into l. a. and we started dating when I was living in L. A. and then She was basically kind of living in La, and then all of a sudden she was like I think I'm GonNa do SNL and I said, okay let's go and I. Got Rid of the apartment in LA moved back to New York and it was in that time that I started doing more but at the same time. It opened my eyes to it certainly but Then I started doing a play New York at one point. I was doing this play in new? York. Before right before he got arrested development and And then arrested came out of the blue but that it all kind of happened at the same time the first couple of years that amy was on SNL. There was a moment where I thought I was I'm I'm just gonNA keep doing my voice over stuff and maybe I'll just never make it as an actor and that's okay. Yeah and I was kind of weird peace with it. During this play and I just thought half I hated it night. Is it a write in a it was a drama and they hated, she hated me the the writer of this plane is a second. Awful. Awful. Win Ever I've done anything that's been sore well. I've done very little just like straight up drama and it's always I'm always amazed like. No one wants to have any fun like you know. The difference of a set of the set of like that whenever I've done something like that I'm like, wow, what when do we start like goofing around? You know like when do we start like during the during the run through where we're not filming anything like where we start fucking around the lines and teasing each other and doing funny accents like never really this is ever you people. Do this all day. You just act serious about that and you believe you know and it's always been like, TV Shit. So it's always like the dumbest you know like well, you know it's weird about that. First of all, I mean, right we and I've been on enough though sets and sets like that together with with enough funny people where it's like everybody wants to fuck around you know. And you know an on arrested with Mitch and Mitch wants to fuck around to absolutely he was like, yes, we gotta do the scene and then let's meet back video village so we can do bits on. Alec sometimes the work gets in the way of of like what you really are doing, which is a fucking around you know totally totally totally and then. There's this thing I'm thinking about doing this actually serious movie. In the next couple of months and It's weird that we're talking about this because I guess I guess. Last night as I was kind of drifting off to sleep. I, was thinking about. What is my approach to be onset because I? Think I am going to do this thing and I thought I this is quite serious like. 'cause onset as you know, I am just in life but were the same we both fuck around a lot and and I'm dissing is quite serious I'm going to have to concentrate quite hard and. What is my? WHO's my set persona? Yeah. Yeah you know. And you got to feel it too because you want to be respectful of other people's. Processes Yeah you know. and. A. A you know. So they're going to be some people that probably don't well I mean there's a lot of. Actors. I. Don't have great senses of humor like the I mean. A lot of actors with no sense of humor especially about themselves. Boy You're yeah. That would be that would be interesting to see going into that situation how much you can really fuck around. Yeah. Yeah it's GonNa be a tough one it's going to be. Well tell score says the I said Hi Oh, I will but by the way is just am dog That's what he liked by the way. That's what he likes. Drinking coffee. misfit take their. Yeah. Cradling like a baby. He's a little fella. Well now. Do you have? I mean, are there unfulfilled ambitions? Are there things that like you? Wish, you were doing that you. You know like one of these day I mean you're doing this dramatic movie that sounds like. That's something that's been. I've been doing that I'm GonNa do that I'm going to do it's been a desire I guess is what you know. Yeah. But it's not one of those like I can't wait to show the world is not the zero if I that's Ademir since thing any yeah. Yeah it's gone and my sort of I really just think about like how can I be happy today I just want to spend time with the kids might say can and yeah and screw around and end You know doing the podcast now with Jason and Shawn, which has been fun and I bet that's I do I do envy you guys getting to. Be there would each other. That's yes, you know. Yeah, it's exactly. And if it wasn't fun, we wouldn't do it. Yeah and so we're doing that and then whose idea was that. Mine years well, well, I had an idea I was going to podcast I was thinking about it after I did cone Z's. And I've been thinking about a little bit before then I did cones and then it was like and then. And then I told Bateman. And Bateman, told Sean and then Sean called me and said I know you WanNa do this all do together as well. Wait a second I was going to do one my and they're like I know we're going to do it together. A over. I know I really did. He biggest bullies in show Business Sean Hayes. And it just we got. We got together the week before kind of everything stopped in the world and talked about it in the world stopped number like you know what kind of late yeah. I, guess we should do it now because we're all just home. Yeah, and that's and that's how we started and So been doing that and then I, just been you know been writing lot more we've. March, Apple Jappie my burner and I we rented a couple movies. We sold a couple and So we've been doing that and that's been fulfilling in different ways. Yeah. It's been great I don't know. I kind of feel like I'm doing what I wanNA, do and. You know I last did this Lego show with which the kids re, which is really popular with kids and Emily happy was on. It's a fun show fun. Show families watched it together during quarantine, which is nice to hear. I'd a lot of fun doing it So I, think we'll do more of those in and Yeah, you know. Yet. No I wish I had a better plan. I should have had a plan all these years. I honestly don't think. I don't think that that's the way to go I. think that I am I've said this before I think it's the focus just on kind of a process you know. Your process that you take two different situations and then. Remain open to things I. mean there are some people that it works where they cannot like there are people that I'd known in my life where they're like I gotTA BE GotTa write the screenplay and then I got a direct this thing and I gotta gotTa gotTa you know and addiction and I would look at them and I would think like Oh i. wish I had a little of that. I'm just a different type I'm kind of like. I. Like to collaborate a elected. I. Don't like to be alone that much. I have a drive to WanNa be acknowledged as you know my own. Entity separate from that mother Fucker Conan. The most real you've been dime. No. No I mean. Like I you know but but I been like the star of Sitcom and it doesn't. It wasn't that great like it wasn't for me I like. I like being part of the group. And that's fun because I care more about the doing of thing than the having the thing the thing being out there. I'm with you. I'm with you. I care way more about the doing too is a good experience is it fun and? Yeah. I'm the same way I like to spend time with people I. Love Who Make Me Laugh and stalking my buddy this morning and he was saying Hussein. What a great gift to be able to look at the world that every day you're trend I was saying something about we're talking about like. Looking for the what the bid is or what the funny he goes. You're so lucky that you spend so much time every day looking for the laugh. A great is a great perspective of life and you knew and keeps you keeps going. I mean, what's the alternative? The alternative. fucking bummer man yeah, yeah I always rather laugh and people say to me any time. There's other buddy goes like. Jokingly, he'll say you know grow up and go why yeah yeah. Why. Would I what are you talking? What does that even mean? Yeah, I mean yeah. I do bits that. Most fifty year old dudes don't do that would be embarrassing for like what a fifty year olds so you act like a fucking punk teenager a lot of the time. Yeah. And I'm okay with it. Yeah. Yeah. Although your skateboarding skills have really Really terrible but we'll. Basically cannot skateboarding. Broken your hip like six times. Not Great. A great look. But I dress real young. Oh Two young if you ask me people look at me that. Guys Young. Oh wait. We were GONNA closer. Jesus must be an undercover cop or something. Well I mean, we kinda got to like sort of you know they have fun as sort of the what have you learned part of this this podcast. Yeah. It's and you don't have to fall. You don't need to follow the rules, right? Now although when I started out the people that were like the executives who are like fifteen years younger than me were. Had notes for the show which I I mean. Basically, it's like looking to talk to fucking people about their lives. That's it like it's Kinda but there was a couple a couple of notes early on after I did the first one to really you haven't really explicitly answered the three questions gotten to the three questions and maybe you should split it up into like twenty minute chunks and I just was like, yeah. Yeah. That's good. Note Fuck that and then just I didn't ever do it. But what? I mean what what kind of soul crushing existence With. The notes process sometimes Crazy, it's crazy to me. Yeah. People got ditch their job to tell somebody something like that's and that's what and I can't imagine what it's like to be something where. You know you hire somebody like you and then and then like have to tell you how to be you and do you. Know. Yeah it's. Dad's my today. My boy yeah. Well. What have you learned come on I got to these. Sorry thing I've I've just learned I think to not take myself too seriously. Yeah. to not take all of it too seriously, and of course you do there are things. You know that you have to. You want to do a good job. You want things to be good. If you're working on something, you want it to be good but And you want to be professional whenever the fuck that means but you gotta have a sense of humor about yourself. No matter what it is and. I don't know I I. Guess I've. Kind of come back to what we're talking about before. I guess because my my dad, my parents but specifically, my dad. Made me kind of go through my paces enough as a kid and a teenager no young man. That I don't. I got kind of a good sense of who I am as a person in I'm not defined by what I do in. I'm a lot different than I was when I first started doing this stuff. I'm not that much different of a person as I was when I was twenty. Yeah, I don't I mean. I didn't know you when you were twenty but I would say that if anything you're just like kind of calmer. Yeah, you know I mean just yeah. You're like more patient and kind of just more centered and Nothing, much not as much of an asshole you know yes, that's it. No, you name for sure. Sure. I was kidding, but I know you were A. yeah. I. Think that that's it. I think I've learned to just you know take it all in stride and that that nothing is forever either that's the other thing. We we we attached so much. To things as they happen in the moment and I think that I used to be like, oh, shit, this is the way it's going to be by the way good or bad. Yeah. Always going to be like this or it's always going to be shitty like this. And that life just as it keeps moving things change and it's nothing nothing's forever. Yeah So stay stay stay flexible. Stay Gold Pony boy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That to whatever I duNno. Seem Young. By quoting eighty year old books. Well, I love you, and this is really exciting to get to talk to you and I hope you know maybe we should do a socially distanced hang sometime blessed hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah I get that baby. I'll just touch it with a six foot long stick like A. Like a broom handle. Will will I'm GonNa send over some plaster of Paris and we'll get mold of your hand. And then so we can put it on the end of this care you know what I mean. I actually I actually I. There are multiple my hand, but they're fish-shaped. They're available on the Internet there in silicone. So. I can just get one of those. Oh rocks in you don't have to paint your nails tonight what the lyrics are whatever. All right. Well, we'll our net. Thank you for doing this and your podcast is called. Lewis as in less smart. Yes. Heartless Mart. I. Would Have Gone With like the three dips shits. There was taking. Yeah that's. That's Barbara Boxer's podcast. Thanks for having me man I love you and miss you I. Miss you very much and and thank you for listening to this episode of the three questions and there will be another one next week. There's nothing anyone can do about it. 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Rob Delaney

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

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Rob Delaney

"I. Starting podcast now, that's how I started every time rob. Hello everyone you have tuned in to the three questions, which is my podcast I'm Andy Richter it's no one. Else's it's mine mine mine. However, I share it each week with a guest of my choosing I don't let people get shoved on me. You know forced onto me they're all people I enjoy whose company I I liked keep, and one of my favorite people is on today it's Rob Delaney. It's America's Sweetheart, Rob Delaney. America's sweetheart who ran away and went to a different country. I did I'm I'm speaking to you for your in London correct I? Sure. Am Yeah. You classier. You seem so classy. You know. Proclaiming I mean, there's classy aspects I mean, I'm not classy I. Mean I know the video element is not a part of your podcast right now you can see me and you've already you know what we're doing the preliminary stuff commented on my back sweat, which is true and that's that's that's me all over fic. Bachelorette I gotta find out he shouted out it's why it's way my showbiz career shot and right to the middle. Of My, my candor Myers Tunis. Yeah. STEWED perspiration observation. That's right So it's it's dinnertime near five o'clock right? Yeah dinnertime Roaches we. We don't eat too much after five o'clock I guess because I have little children you know about live live Gile than to medium-sized children who are seven and nine. How. How old is the little one? Just turned two well. Yeah. Yeah. That's a houseful. That's a house full of of all kinds of different noise. Yeah. A lot of ways noise. I mean, we did it on purpose. It's not. It hasn't taken us by surprise we do. We knew what would happen. Yeah. Yeah. Note and they are I find children to be beneficial to your life I have to remind. One of those people I don't proselytize like people like should I have kids I'm like. No made it to do than yes. Not Don't right. Right. Got knows airplane people without kids or relating feeling lives I I like mine. Glad I had them. You know if you WANNA. Be My guess you know I made a road rise to meet ya so how how long have you lived in the UK now? Almost six years I think allow yeah. Just about let's say six years Yeah Day you think this is a a permanent move. I don't know I. We moved here for the TV. Show catastrophe and figurative fucking fantastic TV show catastrophe. Thank you. Thank you very really funny and complex and and wonderful. Yeah. Thank you and Any TV show out would get canceled pretty quick him and sent back to the US and like my wife took a leave of absence from her job t jim in La thinking we'd come back and then you know SCO kept going I got a second season and then. As. You know my son Henry was born here and then a little F- return one he was diagnosed brain cancer and we were GONNA move back. We were GONNA do the third season then moved back but then he got sick and was sick for almost two years before he died. And then we couldn't do anything. You know like his death was not up to us but up reading our kids for furger dramatic experience don't even remember La was not. Possible or advisable and my wife was pregnant again With fourth child. So life just. Happened in a pretty. Dramatic. And brutal fashion and so now that we've been here, you know like are nine and seven year old. They came here when they were three in one and they like it, we like it. We Miss L. A. and he didn't flee God knows explaining one stuff about it but it's also great here and and I was surprised to find out how viable A career in film and TV and comedy is here. So I didn't. I wasn't struggling find work any the same sort of appetite for whatever it is. I provide over here. There was in la so. So here we are you know and so I don't know I don't know what's going to happen. So the The the staying. There wasn't so much predicated on on Henry's care but on just not up reading the other kids. Yeah. Yeah. Once Henry died we knew that moving anytime soon after that would be very stupid. Young but at the same time by doing that more time, of course, passed and so. And here we are six years later, which is is remains shocking to my wife and I. Yeah. you're from New England originally, right? Yeah. I grew up in marblehead Massachusetts. I'd. To be there right now which I often would be in August. But you know because of travel restrictions because of corona ours we are not there. And are your your folks a lot of people still there are a lot of family still there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Everybody's there my mom, my dad I sister. And so. Yeah. I'll give love to love to go back I mean my I'm like. Feeling, lightheaded, thinking about what would be to act right now that can't. Yeah. Yeah, what kind of town is it i? I'm not I don't know New England very well, marblehead is it's like thirty minutes north of Boston and it's on the water and its population of around twenty thousand. So it's a small town comprised of a really peninsula. A little causeway to another kind of attached island and So it's small beautiful. There's like at ridiculous I think if the if the town four square miles there is somehow hundred fifteen miles of coast In the town itself and So yeah. Yeah. Picture. Postcard. Picture town. and. Beautiful. Yet my first jobs as a kid, my first job was delivering the Boston Globe. But. Then after that was teaching, sailing a little twelve foot sailboats. As a teenager so pretty idyllic. Wonderful Wonderful Place Yeah. Wow. It sounds like it. And So you have one other sibling, correct yeah. I've a sister five years younger. Yeah and What what your folks do what was what was when I was younger, they both blood co owned and operated a an independent insurance agency. So yeah. If you needed fire insurance or car insurance, I would go to them and they would given to you and. And so yeah yeah a little office. That they ran Until my parents got divorced when I was fourteen and then my mom did did all that? And then my dad few years later wound up at the North Bennet Street. School. being the director of admissions there, and that's a funny school in Boston where You can learn build of Violin era shed with with no nails you know yeah and really cool stuff but we lived with my mom after my parents got divorced and. She continued slogan Insurance which you know helps US Through College. and. Just recently retired. Why did she keep the business in your dad moved onto other things Well I guess since they were because of the divorce and yeah, and so you know they didn't WanNa to work together after a divorce let no, I mean I know that button. But why didn't you know why didn't your debt was he didn't he not want to open a competing insurance agency to do war with her I am now. Because it was like A. An Eighty Bette Midler Matt. I am now remembering that in fact, he did do insurance for a few years after that Somewhere else in Massachusetts and. branched out into other stuff so. So they did do that but they didn't compete as far as I know. Yeah, and this school is it is it for children is or is it just sort of owing? Oh, it's for I. Think you have to be eighteen to go there Oh, I see. Yeah, and it's just it's just purely for the project based learning. Yeah it's not a college. It's. It is I mean you do get a degree And? You. Read totally graduated Gil. that is. You Know Dad ups at went there before he started working there. So he in fact, build stuff without nails and So you went there for carpentry and restoration of. Old things that already don't have nails. A, young upstart Sandra prejudice against nails. Hates that. Well, look I said the generation you know and I've tried to you know that I will occasionally use nails. Out Yet but you know. Maybe or he might he might have some Christ complex which would lead one to. Likeliest. Factor. A. Now is your family from New England going back and back and back because I always. Yeah. Always fascinated by people that live in such beautiful places like how do you end up? You know what? How does the biological lottery end you up in like a beautiful picturesque town where you can. Teach them, right. So So my parents at. Marblehead just because it was beautiful I think mom had a couple of towns over in beverly. Massachusetts and my dad grew up in Jamaica Plain, which is a neighborhood in Boston and You know they move around a little bit. You know but then when I was around three. Yeah. The. marble. Godwin. Glad they did. And but then yeah like. All my grandparents, for example were born of the United States I think once you get two great grandparents, you've got people who were from Ireland. And then go further back in that you might have a little England in. Germany At least, my grandparents were born born here Just, to say, my parents could have a run for president they wanted to. Not. Talk about that's a blown opportunity. Right shouldn't yeah. You could. You could have been a real spoiled Brat. Not, a day goes by that I don't chastise. A. Was it a happy house. I mean going up leading up to their divorce. Was it a fairly happy home or we? Yeah it really was Yeah. Yeah. I feel very fortunate 'cause they did all the stuff that. You know that you should do with young kids and we should do with young kids I'm learning is you should be in the same room with them often they should be on your lap often you should be reading to them, tell selling their hair having fights in front of them with your spouse and then apologizing making up and having them see that. There is its proximity kindness if there's a mistake. ACKNOWLEDGE IT and fix it. You know. So they were both great parents truly. In the formative years What kind of what kind of kid were you were you funny kid danner. To, be. I was I loved to read I. To take standardized tests I know that's addictive of something wrong with me but I truly did anything fill out of bubbles tests I loved it. I. was like, yeah created to draw cartoons, makeable stories and do our and stuff like that and So that's as a young wasn't very athletic You know your last pick for the sword you know. It's like a sport, just any sport or shore like I repeated year of of literally baseball I was the only kid I know who did that? I didn't even know that was possible. Yeah. They had the in the in my town. There were three levels, farm minors and majors I progress from farm to minors. But then when everybody else for minors two majors they're like Robert. Around and A Not very much pressure in the majors to go around. It's so laid back here Now, what you're you're you are large person. Yeah but where you sort of like because I know from. My small town upbringing any large person was. harangued into doing some sort of sporting event in like the. Yeah. So at age twelve, I died played basketball for year in Catholic school that I went to for just one year. and. I was valuable among twelve year olds because I was. So tall that I got every rebound and then also I could shoot. It didn't matter how many times I missed I would always rebound length and finally get it in. So yeah. Height helps at that age but then as you get older like high school, even if you're tall if he's still sock than your of no use so that so yeah, I I. I had a little promise. They're like, oh wait a minute. He's not good. He's just big. Yeah. So that was that and then I found. When I was. Thirteen and that was it after that I only wanted to do. A really and this is at school doing plays at school yeah yeah. Yeah. and. So does that mean does that like I'm going to be an actor mom and dad, is there a pronouncement that or I really think that I did Yeah I mean by the time I was. Sixteen. Seventeen I was like, yeah. That's definitely what I WANNA do. And Yeah they were cool with it. You know I I. Did. Work hard in the plays and that was my favorite thing to do plays, musicals and. and. So yeah. They're they're pretty supportive of that And and then. I don't know and then, and then what I don't know the ad and that's what I went to college for you literally do I was sitting there obediently waiting for you to give me permission to move from high school to college within this conversation that. If you if you're stand up, you can just do your act and I'll sit here. During your microphone off except we. The I did so identify wound up going to nyu and went for musical theater went to school the arts musical theater program. and. That was crazy 'cause I was a pretty good singer. Anna. Reasonably. Okay actor. But a terrible dancer, but they may view. Dance you know you had to do. Three hours of dance three days a week, jazz tap ballet and So I'm dancing up a storm and really bad really really bad at the lowest level classes teachers are like. You know yeah. Because they're all. Broadway. Choreographers and stuff now. But I guess I hung on by you know. Qualifying or whatever with singing. act. and then my senior year at Nyu I went to the upright citizens really theater. This would have been in nineteen ninety eight and I would have seen the C-. The folks do ask cat show I set up that's that's what I WANNA do so that that made. Me Turn hard left into comedy. Oh Wow. Yeah. So you so you didn't did you. You didn't get into any kind of post graduate I'm going to try out for Broadway shows five this. Okay. So that so I guess I should say that made me want to do comedy but I was still on this musical track. So I did do a couple musicals after college before I graduated, I got the role of Sir Lancelot in a national tour of camelot answer did that and that was this amazing. Played I think like forty seven or forty, eight states and. That was so great and then I did the sound of music at the Westchester Broadway theater not on Broadway, but it's in New York state. And Then I moved to La after that in two thousand one, do you think he would have been happy doing musicals like if you'd been able to make living at that or do you think that like if you know if you had. You'd felt that urge from a UCB's show. But then if you'd like Nah I, don't I don't think I can pull that off Do you think you bit Ben? Okay. No I really don't and it wouldn't necessarily have had to have been comedy, but once I got into making my own stuff. And performing stuff that I either thought up myself or written myself. That's where Performing Entertainment ANYTHING ARTISTIC BEGAN TO BECOME A. Vastly more. Both, important to me. But then also like healthy stealing, you know because I felt I was you know making something or synthesizing something out of. The. Things I've seen in red and so so yeah. It the getting into A. Realm. Where I was making up, my own stuff I think is is pretty critical and I really WanNa do it any other way? Yeah and that was that was. You had that was a late onset. Urge correct him when you were you were thought. Okay. I'm just going to be Sir Lancelot and Henry Hill and you know yeah. Yeah, and it wasn't until wow. Yeah I mean I. Guess That's not too late I mean I would have been you know twenty two years old. So. Yes, sure. Some people start younger than that. You Know God knows I didn't make any money at any of it until I was quite a bit older but that's yeah we find you know and are for the course. So. But but I mean is it is it scary to you jump from from one to the other not like not like doing touring musicals exactly a surefire fallback Right, I mean I guess wasn't like now of course, it would be because I Have a family of in pay rent in north London you know but. Back, then you know and also good thing that happens to me was when I finally. Called the trigger was like I'm going to do this for career at you know like I'm GonNa. Just remove all the safety nets It was more than they were also being removed from me by the global financial crisis you know two, thousand, seven, two, thousand, eight things went so down the toilet and so many people's lives were thrown into turmoil jobs or destroy that I think a lot of people realized. Oh, even getting a job as a lawyer at the big firm or you know. Going to dental school or whatever anything that you thought previously was a safe bet. Was not necessarily a safe bet. So it was a good time to. Follow a ridiculous dream. which is what I thought. It was the end but now I, don't think that at all I mean now I know that life. Is A fucking shredder the can't wait. Hill you and the people you love. Yes hot acidic piss on in your throat that you should absolutely do whatever you want. a miracle even survive. Let alone have fun. So I don't think it's ridiculous at all to to go into the arts to go into their balloon. 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Capitalize on opportunities, come my way and stuff like that So. So I yeah. I'm afraid of alcohol at that point quite quite afraid of it and won a grant it. More than I want to do anything at same time so. It's it was it was tough period for that. Yeah. At twenty. Five. I. was in a car accident, which is my fault and. And after that I got sober because I thought. You know I didn't care if I died which is pathetic but I didn't want to kill anybody else or hurt anybody else. And so when I learned that my drinking unchecked would. For. Sure kill someone Hopefully, it would be me, but it really might not be when you're driving drunk. And that made me want to quit and yeah, I, haven't drank since then that's been eighteen years but. Yeah. Alcohol definitely yet created a detour for me which also it is very important informative because at twenty five. I get. Drunk. Blackout I. Go to sleep for the night I wake up. In. Quotes wake up with no memory of this during a blackout and Gopher drives driving to a building wind up in jail with rubbing limbs and. At that point, I, need to have surgeries and stuff and I had health insurance at that point. But this was pre obamacare because this'll during. The presidency of George W Bush so before. Obamacare the affordable care act. So your health insurance company could drop you. And they did when I was starting to generate bills. That were big ad but yet, I still needed more care. So I had to find a way to get health insurance. So actually had a big detour from like two thousand to two thousand seven. I worked at various Internet advertising companies and had a bunch of different jobs just so that I could. Get on a group, plan it from an employer. At. So review years you know in early sobriety working these jobs just yet health insurance. I'm like, oh I guess I'm GonNa be a business guy you know and I'm kind of like. Know it wasn't a nightmare period Yes, I. Hated. Those jobs. At sucked at them but. At. That time you know I'm getting SORTA stab. variety and I met my wife was had four children so I wouldn't change anything about all that. But. I it is. You know that has informed. My political. Beliefs and actions. The fact that I had to put a dream on a shelf because I needed to get health insurance which. You know I don't think people should have to do. Right Oh. Know, that's sort of. Important experience that I had. In in. The I mean you're in at this point in your life, your in recovery but jury recovery you know you're in two different of recovery. Do you end up? Like. is part of your process of the recovery from addiction. Is it forgiving yourself and are you able to forgive yourself for this situation? Are there times when you think like if I hadn't been an alcoholic, I wouldn't be in this boat. Yeah. I don't know about like forgiveness of Self I. I've never really thought about that. I'm a very like blue collar garden variety alcoholic and that's also kind of approach recovery like I'm like, yeah don't drink. Put One foot in front of the other held another Alex. Yeah so I don't know you know. I mean I don't mean I don't mean to imply that I. It's your fault I'm just I'm projecting my own like what I think given the same situation what I would have done this distinct like I is to think like way to go asshole now here you are. Blowing Internet advertising you know sure. Yeah I mean at the time I was like I don't know I. was pretty surprised to be alive to be honest. So I am glad. Yeah. that you know the shock of being alive Got Me. You know who can get some mileage. Oh. Then also like mental health wise I think for me in a lot of people who have drug and alcohol problems there I may have been doing some self medicating perhaps with my drinking because once I took away the alcohol after I'd been sober for about a year despite you know going to talk therapy and you know. Not Drinking and trying to make healthy lifestyle choices and stuff. I. Did go into a depression that was very, very bad with you know complete with suicidal ignition and real physical pain I mean a lot of physical symptoms from depression and like a total inability to sleep you know diarrhea. Constantly. Having, any T in my bladder at all was like. Able, if I had a drop of the. To me. That's That's a depression. A caracteristics I've never heard before you found you. I, mean. So I I was a mess. So that's why like I am you know when I hear people talk about depression and style or by your people chastising others for taking medication for depression? I'm like. All right let's What's all this calmly depression when I say depression I mean like. You know high-grade unipolarity. Yeah. Some doctors are yeah. We got to do something with this guy Yeah. Yeah, and also you know the it's interesting that we saw with alcohol drinking alcohol is not that percent while people have it. You know we all know about it. But I think we're might not quite be there yet with depression because even still you know like. antidepressants and I do still feel like. Deficient. Sometimes, you know feel like I wish I, didn't have to take these the more you know. Are. We about to discover in five ten years or thirty or whatever that. In fact, you didn't need to take his medication. What you needed to do was you know climbed a special tree and. And streamline duties these brief exercises so. Take meat extract pills exactly and so on. But I recognize that I have been sober long enough. I have been around people in recovery enough. And I've met other people who suffered from depression I know the fact is you know in this is a you know some effort said many times. But if you had a problem, would you begrudge a diabetic person their insulin or you know somebody with a liver disease, the message that they need you wouldn't. So the brain it's so funny how a brain will act to defeat us and you know we know exactly where to find our fears and exploit them even. Sleep. So it is funny to me an interesting that years later I'm like, do I need you? I need this medicine and? I think the most people most doctors most people you know would would tend to agree objectively. Yes. Yeah. Yeah now I. I relate one hundred percent because I've been on antidepressants for decades and and I, and when I started taking them this is. Back in Chicago Ages and ages ago I You Know I. Say Anybody Tuning in if you're not familiar with Chicago, it's universally known to be very compassionate to men who have been. National issues so I think I'm. going. Yeah Yeah. It's a real. Yeah. It's it's known as a pussy town because there's so much sensitivity. No but I I back in Chicago and I was it was when I got out of college and I was working in film production and I, and then try to start Improv an Improv, and I was just a mess I was just an and in fact I went into A. Saw An ad in the paper with a you know are you depressed the University of Illinois? Chicago has a program and what they did is they gave. It was a program testing elevated levels of anti anxiety drug called beauce bar, and seeing if it if it was helpful for depression and when I first started it it, I felt like. You know like I had been a deflated balloon in somebody inflated me to my correct weight and I felt like I was floating in like a you know and it's just it's what normalcy was in I mean he was the normalcy felt like elation and then and then their program ended and I. Just like you know. Kicked me out on the street without my happy pills. And I went I found I found a shrink that went to a you know that had a sliding scale and it's like you said I went in and within about three minutes the doctor's like you need to be on meds like like it's like somebody that stinks needs to take a shower like. Cheese. And said, it was actually fairly almost kind of malpractice that they allowed me to be in this like I didn't need it. I didn't need a this'll work I needed to this is going to work and right right when I started taking them. I had friends that would be like you know they hear about it and they would say, and these are like not like happy-go-lucky people. These are people with their own issue saying things like Oh really Oh, you think pills gonna fix everything. and. Love. Four right. Absolutely knows some of these people. Yeah or or the are you? Are you going to have to be on it forever like? I don't know. It's like you said I was on I was a diabetic would you be like Well, I, guess you're going to lean. That insulin. fucker. But I but I still have it within me that I think sometimes like. What would my quality of life be like if I wasn't on these drugs and and may maybe I could go off them now and things would be OK which I I know that that's not true. But I do sometimes I you know it leaves me wondering. What it's like to be normal, you know what? It's like to have A. You know have like a fairly normal kind of. Even Keel disposition which actually I should say. I'm going to do a little plug here for Trente llings as as a anti. Antidepressant that I started on the beginning of this year. Works better than anything I've ever been on. So a ask your ask your doctor about twenty. but. The last. I mean Cova decide this last year twenty twenty for me in just in terms of it's been a shit year obviously. In the world but I at least able to cope with it in with some sort of modicum of of normalcy of emotional normalcy and not. You know not feel like. Constant. kind of like. My finger and some sort of emotional dyke that could burst at any minute like no, I can like yeah. Co this this pandemic. Being stuck at home it sucks. But I'm okay. Whereas if it happened last year I think I'd be a big fucking mess about it. So yeah. Yeah. Do. You think your addiction stuff. You mean, your said it was self medicating. Do you think it was that right from the beginning or do you think it was just? It was just such a chemical thing with you that like you know 'cause I've I've had friends friends who are now sober who say like when they were in high school and a that I drank it was like just accelerator to the floor for them in terms of of drinking. Yeah. for me absolutely is ankle. I had a sip of alcohol. This is it. You know yet was like a chemical equation being completed here. I am itself good incorrect and just so vastly better to not have hanging out Holland make so. Yeah I mean just immediate lightning bolt magic. Were your parents aware of this. Do you think? Yeah they were They Try Anti Secret. So maybe A little bit might not have known the whole picture. But I, don't know. It's like. There were a lot of alcoholism on both sides of my family. So you know they probably seen urgent. Had seen other people try to manage problem drinking and I don't know what they did. They triangulate it and figured out you know wear mind fit and driving game out how bad it could be. They weren't like you've got a car accident in your future I would estimate was in five to seven years Injury Level Orange. So yeah. I think the injuries over crazy. On that accident were. They were they were well, what was the fun part was that both my arms were in casts so I I was quite a temporarily disabled by the accident. And could only use one arm time as they operated on because they had to put some meddle into the right arm, which was very badly broken, and then they had to do surgery on the left wrist which was broken. So I. looked funny. And yes, I was A. Also that was helpful for comedy development as well. I'll because I did live. I was sentenced to. A month in Rehab in three and a half months in a sober living halfway house. So I'm in. I in a in a house that you wouldn't notice if he drove by in West La but it's big house with a bunch of bedrooms a bunch of bunk beds and a bunch of guys who just got out of prison and May and so we've got like big guys scary guys, island guys and I can't physically defend myself in any way shape or form so I remember you know. Actively, trying to like make guys laugh so that they would like me. You're really trying to ingratiate myself in ways that we're like you know the right level of like charming but not a static to the didn't see. are like are really tried to surgically assert myself and be a part of the thing in a way that was like. NAH offensive but not like I wanted everybody accepts. So extremely light may so that they wouldn't be shit out of me or whatever you know. Yeah So that was I think helpful and a good thing for somebody like me because shed Ganic person you know so I am yeah it was very funny too. Funny. I say that with years. Time I, was terrified but it was useful to me. I think a performer to has developed skills that I wouldn't have otherwise you know. But I absolutely. No but I mean you're in a is there no pity in this place made you're obviously you've got both arms fucked up a and and it was just your arms. was there anything below there was yeah. Pretty much like nothing have. Nothing else was broken like I had scars on my legs were cut badly but once they were sewn up, it didn't matter. Just. Just the arms. Now. With with both arms. Compromised young living in a halfway house. How does one upkeep ones hygiene? It's challenging I had to Put like a so I, didn't shower that often and when I did I would have to put a trash bag over whichever are within like a post surgical casts where he and In a trash bag over it, and then like using my tease and the other hand like wrap tape around my arm and then shower with the one hand that wasn't taped up in a cast and so yeah, it was really hard was hardawy but I mean it's totally sucked. Did Did you have to have people wipe your butt for you at some point? No you know and I remember seeing being grateful. that. Was the case that I would never want anybody to wipe my butt but a couple of years later the way I met. My wife was volunteering at a camp for kids and adults with disabilities, and so I wiped a lot of adults butts soon after. My arms were healed and yeah, it's It's no big deal. So now totally somebody white my asked and. Yeah that sounds to me like. Opposed Kovic Fan sweepstakes you know. Joe I. Mean Come on Backstage White Rob Cameo or yeah definitely. Again part of. Three. Lucky. Fans. One. Wipe each Yup Yup meeting lot of freon. Anyway. You get the picture. Yeah I sure do. So. I did I did I force it on you? So It. At this point. Am I wrong in thinking that twitter kind of you're sort of like. Were you still working a day job when when you're sort of twitter. Fame Elias he's. Also. So It was two, thousand, nine that I joined twitter at this point I'm doing standup you know like ALL OVER LA, out fly. I'm getting paid do stand up in the sense that like I get paid. Say Six hundred dollars to do a few shows in Minneapolis but it costs me six hundred dollars to get their. Hotel Room Yeah Yeah. So it's that type of stuff But at the same time I'm submitting joke packets to light show Boonen Kimmel Chelsea handler. And others and and trying to to get hired that way. So I'm writing short jokes all the time when when twitter showed up So I think that helps me 'cause know comedians in two thousand, nine were like, Hey, can we wait a minute? We did funny on this and so jokes are one of the first things that were that made twitter. and so. That helped me use twitter than follower number would grow in the net, made it easier to sell tickets than Cleveland and wherever, and so it was it was very, very helpful. Twitter, to for for all aspects of disseminating my disease. Why now you're you're you're disease is a pretty hilarious disease, but it is I mean. You know I think you. You made a splash by just kind of I. don't even know the medically how you would You know it's It's kind of. A playing sort of like like this persona this the grossest person in the world. Sort of I think at times was is what you assume and was this I mean I. You know you know your wife and her karate teacher and and. You know and also. Like a very particular, very particular libido that's focused on. The Body. Hair and and things like that. You know. Is this when you start doing that, are you worried like Oh, this is not going to help my my career a little bit sometimes I kinda thought like. This is like when twitter started people start like among the first people people would follow in two thousand nine would be like CNN people like Oh you can like curate like a speed of things you find interesting you know so you can follow your yeah. Yeah. Football Team and whatnot and I thought like you know what we there's enough crap in the world. APPS and doodads. If. It bugs, the Hell Outta me to see like businesses trying to use it and and so I was just like you know what people if you have had the audacity to download this foolish eappen trying to be informed by than I want you when you're scrolling through your feed where the TACO truck? What? Tornado sweeping through your state. I also want you to. See, something bizarre an incident. Setting and so and so myself and others at that time recognized like it was good for developing the quick hit. Incredibly absurd or silly thing when people weren't expecting it necessarily you know they're gone through. Yeah. They WANNA see how the titans did and then they're going to have to hear about you know me watching a woman change out of her wetsuits through a hole in a bar you know what I mean. Why Santer wetsuit in the bar that's what I want to get into that you that's. Boss I'm. You. Know. Like. So I just thought. This is so stupid. I always hate new technologies WANNA come out and get the only at them. So I was like dare twitter exists and how people use it. So I just wanted just put stuff out there that make people less you know or Llano, but just make him feel anything you know. Yeah I Yeah you. Feel like you really you were one of the people that sort of like showed me what it could be. You know like like getting on there and Just seeing you re tweet because I got a I. got on there in the crassus. Jest most the. Just asshole. show-bizzy way which is was there and I think it would have been two, thousand and ten. And I think the TV or no it might have even been when we were on the tonight show I don't even know it was when we started the tonight show or whether it was the TV show where the the weird between time but I was invited to play in the The baseball, all star weekend was in Anaheim. And I was invited, I was invited to play in a and I. Did it twice. There's a a old timers and celebrity softball game that's like Martin the. Part of the shenanigans that happened and so I was invited to go down there and the production one of the production managers from Conan. said to me they got in touch with us and said they said like twitter got in touch with us and said, we knew that I was doing this on twitter asked if I would join twitter and tweet about it that it, there's a possibility I'll make it a new iphone into whatever that you know I phone to or whatever was happening. And I was just like all right fine and I signed on in whatever phone you know my palm pilot or whatever the nose using that time. And signed up for twitter just see if I could get a new a new cell phone. And Yeah, and I could because at the time I had. There was facebook and I was kind of on facebook. About facebook was. Just. What I find out now is the ability to write such long texts and your accessibility people that your I felt like I was always trapped in a conversation short of, and then once I got onto twitter I was like Oh my God. So suited to people with with minute attention spans, which is me and I and I also really loved the challenge. Of. Writing a tweet like writing. and seeing that it's its own form, and if you I love like if I can get three jokes into one joke into less than one, hundred, forty characters. It's incredibly satisfied. It's like a high coup or something. It's a very formulaic thing and it's like if you can sort of like. A and and just it's it is. It's like it's like crack of jokes you just. Distilled down to it's it's it's it's purest strongest fast hit and run thing And I so I. And also to frank, it's like I've. A lot of my friends that in my life now I know I know you because a twitter I mean we're talking now because yeah, I mean. There was twitter and then I think you invited me to do some stuff. I think you were doing a pilot that maybe that was the first time that was massive I. Know Be Fun if I could ever get that shown somewhere. But yeah, I made a comedy central pilot and you're my guest on it and we had big fun and you were so gracious a wonderful of you to do that. I mean. I don't the graciousness it's like. You know one of the reasons that even do this is to be around funny people like I don't even you know I like making a living and. At a certain point, you know there was. Time that went by where I was charged up and thinking like, yeah. Yeah. I'm GONNA, take the world by storm, but always running through especially now, the most important thing is to have fun and be around funny people in Yeah. Life. Is So short. So I think you know people bitch about it and it can't be it can't feel like a cesspool at times but. You know twitter's definitely improved my life. You know I mean I it's given me lots of yeah. Lots of fun in lots of. Good Times And also you know. And also at times made me feel like. You know. Alex spending. Spending so much time arguing with gun nuts in my eye and then and then realizing, and then realizing like I am not this is. They're still guns. It's not working whatever I'm doing it. It's. Also making more from me. Getting upset anything and I do mean anything that takes lies on twitter is the same thing is seeing a big shift on the ground and going Oh my God look at that. Shit in picking rather get on your shirt or. Shit like. Off Man. Yeah yeah I I It's actually a tweet but I mean it's like I. I it's like The the simile that I found. Is that it's it's like trying to drown vampire in your own blood like you just end up. Hey, good in attempting to. Yeah. Intend attempting to. Kill this beast. You're just you're just subtracting from yourself. You're just. You're. The energy that you are giving that's taking away from you. They're living for their feeding on it. So you know. Yeah. But then there are times it's nice to tell someone to fuck off. That's always it's not bad. Yeah. Yeah. I met. Is when you say that was that was that talk show is a comedy central, right? It was. It was that was that your first kind of television thing that your own project you have my own? Yeah. Certainly and that was a lot of fun They didn't pick it up and I think I was upset for like twenty minutes, and then I just booked to stay or and Did shows all over the country which was tremendous fun. and wrote a book. But? No I. Mean that was very educational making a very fun. Yeah. and. Is At. At that point, I mean are you kind of just kind of? What do you think you're doing with your your career at that point like what are you going to be a standup where you're going to you? Know you write a book? So are you going to be a book writer? Are you going to be a talk show host because I think that that was Kinda what that show was four sean or are you just kind of trying all and seeing what happens? I mean I wanted to be. On. So I you know stand up is great to have at the core of it. which so weird feel. So weird say that having not done stand up now in several months. which I really. Hey. Yeah for stand up to be like at the heart of it is it is a maybe I mean I just describe my career in one word I. I hope comedian disappoint would be would be sort of the catchall. Yeah, I would say. Yes. So But yeah. As long as people are laughing, you know I I love to read stuff. By myself and I love to do stand up by myself I also love to collaborate. There's nothing more morning than writing a script and then giving it to a director who is not may and. And then you know involving you know loads of other people to help make it come to fruition. So. Yet, and that's a good thing. That's a wonderful thing about About this career is that you can do stuff like in isolation and then foisted on the world at later date. Or you can work together with others. Which is really nice because you can kind of feed the A. The introvert extrovert and. So it's a pretty I'm quite. Grateful to be able to to work in a a few different capacities. Yeah Yeah. I think I think it's I think. That well I mean aside from stand up stand up is you need managers to help you you know. In mid to have a community but it is it is a fairly solitary pursuit and it's like there are lots of other pursuits. In show business a where I don't think people realize how collaborative it is like every. Every really funny actor that you've seen has probably had somebody helping him shape ideas and you know even when they get a movie, they you know has it. which is the sort of. Secret, wonderful part I think of of of of the more collaborative nature of of of doing this kind of stuff And speaking of which When when you was catastrophe something that you and Sharon Horgan worked on. Immediately together. Did you conceive of it together or? Yeah, we did I got. A script deal. With the BBC. and. I just days that write a script about whatever and. So then I said to Sharon I said, Hey, you wanna write some together and we had the vague idea that would be about a married couple. and. The challenges that life through with them. And so yeah, we'd known each other for a couple years to three years before we decided to work on that together. But they're. Like. I just wanted to say like, how does how does that that UK connection begin like? You know how do you go from being in La Comic that's touring here to even having a contract with the BBC Okay The web that work is I didn't realize it at the time when I signed with my manager. You know a long time ago. But in fact, my management company. which was not that big at the time in the United States was the American satellite of a big British management company? So. When I expressed interest in going to the UK, there were like it was so easy to do. So. I came over and started just doing stand up here and and then because twitter allowed you to become known in a foreign country without even having ever been there you know or work area. That made it easier to sell tickets when I came over here. So yes. So I was doing standup over here and nats when the BBC was like, Hey, do you want to write a script for us and? I said yes. On the condition that you let me do it with immigration Shawny friend Sharon Okay. So we did that and that's what became catastrophe. So we were very, very lucky to have that you know. Work out on, our first endeavor. Together. Your kids were quite small. Weren't they? Yeah when I moved to the UK a older two or three and one. was at a daunting prospect Did it ever make you feel like? You know like, is this the right thing? So definitely yeah, I mean it was brutal for my wife I mean it was really damaging to her into our relationship. Because we lived in. A big backyard and Sunny Santa Monica and she had a job that she loved and so we moved over here with her pregnant with our third. She doesn't know anybody loses her job not lose their job, but you know gives it up. Yeah, thinking it's going to be temporary, and then it turns out not to days. So it was very, very difficult. So so the you know the. Meyde domestic situation in moving to the UK was real upheaval the brunt of it worn by my wife and I had to like really change my work habits 'cause when I first came over here. I show I have to do everything. Can't delegate anything it, which is you know can be a fatal error for people certainly for their real life relationships you know Sanity and all that and so. It was very tumultuous in difficult moving over here and. then. At a certain point, my wife was like So you we are GonNa make some changes when I say we, I mean you and they're going to be dramatic and she. Helps me understand how serious issues world and so I did and so for like this. Fourteen atrophy I learned delegate works smarter rather than harder and. So that was very educational for me and it really helped me adjust the work life balance in a way that was more sustainable because I. Definitely. fucked it up in the beginning and so happy that you know we were able to course. Correct. Yeah. What were. You spending too much time at work was at sort of the basic or. Yeah and and that. Moved might dynamics funds. Popular wife with friends and job into a basement flat in a country where she knew no one and I was like good luck and You know. Pregnant with another one of my jets. and. And responsible for three in one year old and You know the weather's a little different here in Santa Monica and. It's just. was just just vicious for her and so now it's vastly. You know a world of difference. Yeah Yeah. Yeah that was I. I had that same learning process. Job Twenty years ago in my marriage from going from. The cone show to coming out here With a little baby and. And and then when and also too I didn't know how to how to use Los Angeles. So we moved to a house in the PALISADES. which was Whereas all our what friends we did have here were all on the east side in in Los Jassem. Silverlake in downtown and. We've been here about. Four or five, and also to shooting a single camera show which is sixteen hour days, and so there would be three and four. Three and four days would go by when I wouldn't see my son awake because I. Wake up and I'd come home when he was still asleep and. When I thought I was being sensitive but I you know. I needed to be. It's the same thing I needed to be made aware and if you know and I, she didn't say it like this but it's like I did realize like about three or four months in like. I kinda ruined my wife's life. You know like this is this is bad and. I also, I also think too and this is this is just whatever partner and it's usually You know in in a in a heterosexual couple it's usually the wife that and then mostly in charge of the childcare and and so the other person is going out and living this life and coming home tired from work and this other person has just been here with this. You know crying ball of flesh all day. And There was times I'd come home I didn't have anything left. And it was just. It was really tough and really unfair and it's hard to navigate that and yeah and good for you guys for figuring it out I'll be honest Z. I don't I credit my wife's tremendously I don't take a lot of credit a lil but PRIMERICA would go to the fact that our son got sick and we had to really. Make sure that our family was the highest priority for every member of it so that we could survive at and. You know the the best way possible. You know. So you know it was one of those things where I mean obviously I would you know? My arm off happily in gleefully to bring back our son Henry but. That's not possible and In his illness in his deaths you know. My wife and myself are older boys. Beautiful stuff happened. You know as we navigate all that and as difficult as it was than, it remains very difficult There was a lot of. I don't know. grace and. Warmth and kindness and. Stuff. That just helped us all through it all and and and certainly helped guide me in my decision making process. In Yeah. Being kinder more present So You know I. Mean that was the biggest the biggest factor I think for all of us. Yeah. Well I. Mean You. You have always exhibited poise. Even you know hearing honestly I really I mean that I mean. The way the recovered from your addiction issues and from the accident and and you know making lemonade out of Lemons. Times. Really No, it's. It's it's. It's enviable and it's admirable and it's it's You know. Just just I mean what you went through with your son. To a lot of times I was thinking about you know before talking to you here I was thinking you know when something so. Gutting happens. You know people often say like I can't even imagine and I was thinking like I can't imagine. I. CAN'T IMAGINE I'm a father and I I can't imagine just. The, ability to move on from something that can just seem so. Absolutely apocalyptic in a person in a personal sense, it's you know it's been. It's been. It's been valuable to watch a not well for lots of people so well. You're welcome. Now, what now what what are your still over there your what are you working on these days and? Just, an a greater sort of greater sort of the. Philosophical Sense. What next? So. Short. Answer I don't know I have no idea. Okay. Expand upon. All right. Well Nice talking to you. Expand upon that. I. Just gave us to submitted a script to a network that I wrote over here. And we'll see what they think of it if they'd like to make a series of it. And that was a lot of fun to right. It's. It's the first thing that I've. Put a lot of work and care and to since Henry's death. I. AM Glad I waited a couple of years because. I think it be. I wanted to not write about it directly his death but I knew it needed to course through me and become part of me. And I had to sort of. Grapple with the new person that I was 'cause. Like a different person. Having the things change in you after having a child die. And So. This? Yes. I've written something that has a lot of per page but is quite dark. And Yeah, hopefully I hope. We get to make that. Anything else about it now because you know it's still in the oven. Right but and also, I, I'm a terrible thief I will steal it. Right yeah. Yeah. If you give me even a even an ounce of an idea of what it's about I'm. I'm I know obviously in. Yeah Right I'm zooming with cinemax in now. So that was good now. Can you say can you stand the UK as long as you'd like I mean there are certain point. Now we have a finite visa. We have a very good long visa, but it's finite. Hopefully don't WANNA renew it But Yeah we're not citizens vote we do We are here on visa where don't have to leave every six months and get fingerprints on New York, and then fly back. Yeah So. So yeah, I guess we'll live here for the foreseeable. I I love being an employee I love acting in other people's movies. So have a few movies that will come out in the. In, the coming months. That are other people's. Creations in that were really fun to work on. And I hope. God. Hoping to stand up soon. The day out. He's like heartburn doing standup knows. Well, I'm GonNa let the twenty two year olds figure out how standup works in. Time, and I'm also taking advantage of this time just be with my kids. So what's the injured out and we figured out this sort of plasticine costume that we wear and more sped from helicopter whatever when Setzer will be back doing standup. And otherwise you know. Figuring out it'd be a good dad and husband And yeah. How engage politically you know we don't about this too much but you know it's It is gratifying the blur now learning myself included you know how important the daily actions that we take our in the magnificence in the beauty and glory of the black lives matter protesters around the US in the world. You know I think people are now getting hip to the fact that with income inequality wear it is at this point and it's very bad and where things are headed with the environment and again very bad. Debt voting every four years or every every two years you're real start. Is Just not enough so that yeah. So yeah, I WANNA try to help. figure out how to get more involved with the day to day local small much smaller elections you know city council's Mayors Da's, and then Yang Unions and work with interest. So people can be mortgage 'cause you know look hey, it'd be great if we could just go on autopilot not worry about it but you know. We Mike political consciousnesses switched on during really what is historically a black when you know things were seemed to be coasting and seemed to be okay for you know a small people but now it's even growing smaller. So. The I am so grateful for everybody who's in the streets and doing real work and yeah, just WanNa make sure to to do that and help people do that best can yeah. I. Have you ever very positive political engagement which I think is is rare often it's got I mean like I said I. I I'm somewhat political on in public and in often like I get I let sort of. Anger and self righteousness bleed into it too much and I. Think you do a great job of of kind of. Remaining. Positive And and all and persuasive and persuasive I mean because I think persuasion is absence from a lot of discussion and that is the bottom line is if you have if you have a firm belief that this is the way that things will be better. Calling, someone an asshole for thinking. Rob. Blake not the beltway. So entice them ninety nine have to to to. Put the brakes on myself to myself and doing it because you wanNA. Do I mean it's good fun. Yea. That's US Sunday. Any hit calling somebody announced Yep. Yep at the same time I. Think it's more for me. I've been more successful when it's been, you know attraction rather than promotion and yeah. Tell laying about my experiences with you know socialized medicine over here national healthcare. Guess just seems to be far more effective than saying uses as being if you don't think. So you're an idiot you know. I would rather demonstrate that it's so good to have this stuff that you. That you can kind of bad pass the name calling where you're like Oh hey, let's. Now. Yeah. Well. Now You. Use, the phrase figuring out figure out figured out this and that I I wonder when you say figure out what if you could still like? What you've figured out into kind of like a short punchy statement that a podcast asshole like knee will love to put a button on this thing. What do you figure it out? What about what he thinks? I believe. I. So. For me a big example of how to persevere in this world is. Amulet cockroach because you know so many incredibly good things have happened to me inform me that are really beyond belief. Than also, I have had some really terrible things happen to me that have been enormously difficult barely able to survive those. Things are. I try to like I know it sounds crazy like Chekhovian and all that. But like I really try to endure you know and I try not to hate the bad things that have happened to me. In this is like a very. Messy, tortured metaphor, but it is the central one for my life. At the end of back to the future DOC Brown shows up. And instead of having to get struck by lightning he now attached to the flux capacitor has the thing that says Mr Fusion on it, and you no longer need to be struck by lightning because what he's learned in the future you can just put anything in and we'll see. We'll. have. Like anything will fuel it. So for me I try to think think that I you know like have a MR fusion inlet in my head or my heart or bows end. So I try to take good in the bad and understand that they camps you will me forward. And the AD. Served me well, sort of Mr Fusion belief Attitude because things are going to get thrown at you, they're incredibly painful, incredibly difficult to absorb and make peace with and that in it's going to happen it is going to happen. So if it's going to happen than, I try not to hate it a try to. Weave it into my life. Mike. Steering like with Henry's deaths sometimes, I'll be crying and I'll be sad. And tell myself in this might sound crazy. I'll tell myself. It's okay. You'll be sad forever and I kind kinda feel better he's like Oh don't have to I don't have to heal in this moment. I. Don't have to come up with answers I get to carry. He is memory in my heart. Forever, I get to feel Ever I want. Whenever I want an that's you know sadness. Well, that would make sense you know and it's okay. So. Yeah. That's those couple of things that I know I know that's messy but I do believe all that what the place. It's It's quite beautiful. I, mean I, I don't think back to the future is beautiful It's fun but. But no that's A. that's a beautiful way to think of it and it occurs to me as you're saying, it's a kind of victory. It's a you know it's it's kind of. It's kind of. When when you know to the ability to really kind of like if bad things are bad it's a way to concord bad it's a way. You know it's a way to sort of. It's a it's a beautiful thing. I shouldn't even say anything after it because it was you put it so well. So thank you so much for doing this I really appreciate it. I know. Dinner Time over there and I miss you and I hope to see you soon. and. Thank all right. It was really fun. I'm glad and and good luck on the new script anything. Is there anything you? WanNa Plug as you know? Is there anything to flood so you know if people haven't seen I understand special come out earlier this year on Amazon crime so you can watch Saturday. Funny. Yeah. All right. Yeah, no grooming products. No Line of housewares a well, you know there's a shampoo that smells like less soil over here that I. Hear you, Mike a law. Faith in nature tea tree oil in it smells like less while I would use to clean my kitchen floor as a chai belt and so yeah. Yeah. I don't want to smell like that but I do because I love the smell it in the shower every so young. Yeah. Yeah. Faith faith in nature t trio shampoo. It smells bucking exactly like less story floor cleaner. All right. Thank you so much. and. 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Cole Escola

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

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Cole Escola

"If, you've ever stopped at a railway crossing and the signals are flashing and you don't see the train order appears to be moving slow and you're thinking that maybe you could get across the tracks before the train comes. Think about this. Even. If the engineer sees you and applies the emergency brakes away, it can take a train over a mile to stop over one mile to stop. By that time it's too late and the resulting crash will be deadly stop trains can't. Hello America. This is Andy Richter on the three questions which is a podcast in case you hadn't figured it out. And I am talking today to Colas Scuola. The very, very talented hilariously funny. Character Actor Cabaret Star thing I'm a thing bond vaunt. Yeah. Yeah. high delightful toy for the eye and ear. I just made that one was pretty out. Yeah. It sounded made up. Their worker I. Okay. Yeah you're right. You're. Well. Where are you are you in your apartment in New York City I am I'm in Cobble Hill Gorgeous Cahill and take my address do I Don't think. So later afterwards after we stopped okay, I'd like to I'd like to see him strike you. Yeah. I'd like to stand outside holding up a boombox. Playing I duNNo. I haven't figured out what's really going to lure you out and into my we can always add the audio after. Posts. Depending on what we can. Afford. Let's get into the auto by or the biographical stuff. You're a child of the great northwest is that was yeah that's true. North West and by the way, what is a Scuola? What? What is the derivation? It's finish really. Wow. It's spelled with it was originally spelled with a k. but my grandfather changed it to a C. to spite his father that's the that's the story my family tells. Battle shy, which is like, yeah, which makes me wonder if he's gay because that's pretty like gay gay person thing to do like. A maybe he's gay to like maybe that's where I get it. I'll show you. Now it you had you I mean, you have a famously tough childhood you had a famous. I. Mean I like to I. I love to talk about. About it as if it was like made for TV movie but I mean, but it was like you know we were very. Poor we lived in a trailer into government housing. My Dad was a Vietnam vet who was a raging hall Eq and then my mother's a sort of a a lovely alcoholic but. You know he was like A. He chased us out of our our trailer 'cause he he was hallucinating thought the government was out after him son and he had like a gun and but like it sounds. Only. Now do I realize like how? Crazy it was I remember as a child being excited when that happened because I was like nothing ever happens around. and. How old are you this point? Five Oh my. Oh. I was like so thrilled that we got to live with my grandma and like. You know my grandma and I. Stayed in her guest room and my mom and my brother stayed at my grandma's bedroom. And it was like I was like, yeah, Grandma's my roommate. So you know. Yeah. I For dramatic effect I love to you know and also like in Therapy I. Realizing those things do happen effect on you absolutely. Yeah. No. Yes. The thing I mean I've known especially being in comedy we know so many damaged people that have the Lemonade the Lemons and yeah but and you can kind of. I think that minimizing your trauma. Is like a level coping? Yeah. Like that wasn't that big a deal. Mom Hit, Dad Dad Yeah Mom, mom, and dad actually probably sort of our. Dad. I mean you just you up? Happy and yeah, and then it was and then you go to college or you get married and everything falls apart and you time bomb. If he that is if you don't deal if you don't deal with it and like by also because I'm in, you know we're in this business of show I am. I don't. I often find myself from you know narrative icing the story that way like you know. Pick myself up by bootstraps I came from nothing we have we ate our toenails we were so like. And I'm just like also trying not to swing too hard that way and you know. Like sort of masturbating the trauma. Yeah. Makes Sense know that? Because there are people there are yeah. They do that and there are people and I would love I would love to do that. That would make me feel. So like a like A. Victim who who needs a win you know yeah. Yeah but. But you're not the country singer that I wish. Too, much. self-awareness is such a bummer. Heat it when you've really when you have a good when you have sound a, you know a pretty good idea of how you appear to other people. Really takes the fun out of so much so. Now, they're also I imagined to Zaino from dysfunction in my own family and yeah, my stepfather. Was An. Alcoholic and and they got and it got very ugly and when he laughed was it was Like. I sort of likened it because up until then it it it was regular life. You know. But when he laughed a at the time, even I was kind of where I was. Thinking I was like thirteen fourteen am I said to somebody said it's like there was we were living for years with an air raid siren going off and turned it off like we have been used to this high level of stress and Awfulness and and just Kinda Greece to it. So then the absence of it wasn't it wasn't like a big party it was just like, Oh wow. Yeah. We is that that yeah, that thing that was causing so much stress and I don't mean that he was a thing but I mean but. that. Factor in our lives it was so stressful is gone. Yeah you know. Just be. Regular dysfunctional. Exactly, yeah yeah, yeah. So so did you did you stay with your grandma that? We lived with my with my grandma for a while this show because what happened was like my mom got in a like a drunk driving accident where she was drunk driver and. This was before. We left the trailer like And she had to go to Rehab. which was You know a very memorable Christmas. Because she wasn't there or because she got to come out for Christmas. And so that made it all the more special like like when I look back like. On My childhood memories, I'm like, wow, that was a great Christmas because we got to see mom and then I remember like, yeah, because she was taken away because she was in Rehab. Joe She almost committed vehicular man's yeah. Yeah exactly. Yeah. So Then after she got out. She went back we went. We moved back into the the trailer and that's When things that's and then a few months later is when my dad did that suffer my mom was like I could do this when I. was wasted but like I I can't deal with US anymore. So that's where we left for good and then You know there's It was like low income housing but like. In a town of like. A fifteen hundred people. Low. Income housing is looks a lot different than it does you know in a major city? So it was Just like a white trash apartment complex. You know there was always always cops there like pulling like. Topless drunk women off of their you know like Greece or boyfriends. we would often go into the dumpster to see like. They threw away this perfectly good coffee pot. Like fun funding like that. is every I mean you're? Very smart very insightful. Very funny. Are Are you are your is your family like Oh your folks smart insightful or funny or are you like a Unicorn? They. They are. Funny and And it and like an smart like emotionally intelligent I, think being gay. To added an extra element of like outsider, nece that that may be gave me a perspective that yeah, they just didn't. Have but they like. You know they. They're still we still have the same sense of humor. Yeah, like yeah. Like they get it. Yeah. which is again a really wonderful coping mechanism. Yeah and can be such a great collective one. So yeah. and Are you in the same schools when this happens or do you have to change your same same schools and But you know in small towns like that everyone. especially, like really depressed poor ones like the everyone has like. Family like weird disfie- everyone goes about everyone's absolutely. Yeah. No. Did you grow up in a small small. Yeah. Yeah. It was a town called York Ville, which is west to Chicago. When I grew up there. It was I mean now it's kind of been absorbed by the suburban sprawl pushing out. Yeah. But when I grew up, it was still pretty much of. A the big. It was a farm town, and then there was also a caterpillar tractor factory that employed a lot of people. So that was like it was kind of a Combo of added in but on. Yeah. But also you know. Regular town was like built. For a paper mill to. Yeah exactly. Well, the the town had was written. It was just a farm town and as things got bigger, it got bigger and when I was a kid there were to stop there were two traffic lights I think three. One at the end of town in the middle of town and one at the other end of town and and when we got. McDonald's people people went and waited before six am for it to open up like we were I mo.. Getting in, we have the same thing for. Our first and only chain restaurants still in that town has subway and the day it opened it was like. Everyone in town because it was like they were giving out free sandwiches on the first day it was like we'll wait for seven hours. Dollar, yeah yeah right. Right for that cold sub. On Yoga on Yoga Mat read. Yeah. But yeah so it was it was pretty small. It was pretty small and and there was a lot of the same kind of I mean it was. There was no but there were maybe to rich people and they were and they to rich families and they were wealthy people from Chicago that wanted to start horse farms. So they can you know what? I mean they moved out and they had the American dream. Yes. Exactly. Leave the city to start a horse. Horse farm yet it. Really, expensive pets. And UH. And and but everybody else closest you know is kind of middle class you know and then there were also there was the same thing they were like they were definitely. Kids that were that who were very poor and you know like. Like, there was a boy that I went to school with. Whose whose family lived in a house that his father had built and they lived in a tent while he built the House and the house was always. Heated by a woodstove. So he ho so everyone's I smelled they. He smells like a campfire, all the I'm and and you know and just like that that was kind of. The thing for you know or just like the casual racism of. People you know like kid at school saying the N. Word just because yeah they thought shocking y'all know because they thought that's what black people. That's what people say. Oh Wow that was the only word they ever heard in reference to black people. So yeah, you know we'd say very matter of factly and be somewhat son when they were corrected yeah yeah. But yeah, it was it was kind of the same thing I mean but my my family was. Because my grandfather. My Mom's dad was there from actually the his name Glenn Palmer and the Palmer Land prior to that being Palmer land his father's land. It was Blackhawk Indian. Land. So, like the first white people to start a farm there and he got a huge tractor land and then and then it just it it created a A. Two or three generations of very lazy people because all they did was they raised hogs and chickens for show and then own land they would sell off a big chunk of their farmland and then on it for five years Nina. Not. Live. But Right right yeah. But and like my grandpa by the time He. You know he was an adult. He they'd run out of land. Sold empl he sold insurance he sold real estate and and you know and they just bought pita sold any didn't have to sell it because people just like Tim so that you know it just was an income form. That's funny. A sure we'll. But Hey, why like? All I'll take an acre. Yeah. I guess if I die I, want my kids to have some money. Now did. Are. Is it is. Is being gay in that in that environment. Any different or any more difficult or easier than you think if it would if you hadn't been kind of. Under the rest of that you know poverty and. You know like like all small towns like were. You know everybody? It's like pretty This is a line from the LARAMIE project, but like it's pretty much live and let live. Yeah but but truly like. People aren't like. That's a gay guy. They're like, oh, Stephen Christmas son. You know what I mean like Yeah Yeah Yeah? So I mean I I think I felt more Shame about it because of like cultural and you know. Societal implications than I did like being directly like. Made to feel unsafe I mean I was always called like. Fag, or or like. Why do you act like a girl and dumb? Things like that but I I I didn't really like. They didn't register to me as like insults. Yeah. Yeah. You can just get you you get used. Yeah. Abuse and and also like everyone had the they're like. They're like the pejorative you know like. A she slat he's fat. That's FAG. But. No one was no one was safe, right? Right right. Yeah that'd be great. If there was one kid that was just really kind and that was his. fucking kind. Yeah you got some compliments for today Mister Nice Guy. got. Problems. You want to understand dome. Yeah I think that. I also think too. that. The. My I have I have a mildest boy might have two kids. My son is getting and I just and he came out to us when he was eleven and I just think it's just wow, it's just easier. And that isn't because of Harare for me and my ex wife, it's just because. We live in Los Angeles. There's no you know at like at my son's school somebody. I had a dad once asked me about the school and I think he was asking me and he didn't know that my son was gay but I think he was asking me in coded terms of Yao like. How will my gay son do at the school? But he was saying because, yeah, he's he's a little bit different. You know he's Like a jock or anything you know yeah and he said and I just kind of cut to the I didn't say. But I right I said it's impossible to be a bully at my sense cool there. Yeah. No. There's And the kids even know you know in fact, my son told me once. When he was. He's probably twelve thirteen something like that, and he was at a table with a bunch of kids and I don't think he made his sexuality known Anymore Than Right Eleven twelve year olds have four sexuality. They're all kind of Gel like at that age. And But he said that he was talking to some he was at a table talking to some boys in that they started to say like that's so gay. And Gay and I'm Tony About he said that he actually went like what's wrong with gay like you have a problem with gay and the boys were like No I guess not, and they're like, why would you say it like that and they're like, yeah, good point. Yes that was so proud. I was so proud. Just. To Be Beieve enough to do that. I think. I remember I came out at seventeen and I remember like. One of the first times someone called me like. As a you know as an insult called me gay and I was like, yeah, I am and they were just like, oh Oh. Because to them, they are not thinking like Dare Gay and that's bad. They're thinking like. What's what's a bad word I can what something mean I can say is GonNa make them feel bad yeah, and I'm like. No that's that's yeah. I am gay and then Faulk, what else is there I know I know it's such. It's such a simple mechanism like, yeah a Cairo. Years ago when. There was. Before, they were sort of chat groups are or twitter people have these these sort of like website email things where they would be just be invited group of people and there was one for comedy show Biz people, and there was there was a guy who just had a baby actor director guy his had his first child and somebody I think it was a gay person when he posted a picture of the newborn and and I and it was a prison. Oh my God that kid is such a fag wife. About this new. Funding you it's fucking area. and. He got so mad you got so. That he quickly, and like am I taught, I saw him later and I was like. You know what? There's a good. You know that might be gay. So what's the began? You'll like yeah, it's like saying manic kids sure is white. You know it's like or like it's just funny to ascribe personality. Be Open to a baby. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah I love I love I. Love seeing things like paper like. To just know like like because somebody's baby like. This? Really. fucking. Rude. You wanting to learn what the? Your asshole I'm sorry you know. Yeah it's yeah. It's one of the last last few. Jokes making fun of babies. It's it's like making fun. The cats you know how you can exactly cut away reaction shot of TAT. A baby is just the same thing you know you're accused of murder and cuts this like. It's adorable. Yeah. Well, now are you you're you did do theater pretty early. Right? You knew that you were drawn to the stage. Yeah there was this. I don't know if they even exist anymore but there's this company called Missoula Children's theatre and it would be to adult actors would. Come to town and additions were on Monday after school already this show with. The sound? On on Saturday then there was they lived out of boy. Yeah. So Yes, the auditions were Monday the show on Saturday and then they like the than the show was you know gone and it was the best and most heartbreaking week of my life every year like like. Because that was all that was the only theatre or anything that you're interested in Were those shows and then on Saturday like watching those adult actors leave and just being let please take me. And now I think I would never take that Gig but. But. It was really that's how I got. Started was Missoula Children's theatre. Yeah. Yeah. are you? Are you like? Are you coping very well during this time I mean you know are you happy? Are you friendly? Are you got kit friends? You know I I love I'm a big phone talker. Talking on the phone I love talking on the phone for like ours I love even just like sitting on the phone watching TV and like forgetting I'm even on the phone, right? Yeah. That is one of my it can be really fun. Yeah. It doesn't. So old tie me now it's. So we talked to somebody on the phone now it's. It's so it's sort of a recent like only in the past like. Four or five years that I've started doing that. Yeah. But I really like. Like. It's so weird when I'll talk to my friends I'm like you guys you have to start talking on the phone. It's crazy. Fun. And people are like just text me. Yeah and I am yeah. But for me I feel like texting is is much harder. It takes longer it's like whenever you're texting it's always like you're stepping away from something else and so it's like You know I'll I'll be pressing, play a on a TV show playing it for like ten seconds. Get attacks like Pozo. Let me responded this and then like it's just a nightmare to me. Yeah. I think to the like there's especially if. If something's more than. Meet me there at three or what you know. Simple. Yeah. I WANNA speak it because I think there's somewhere in my mind that pushing the buttons and texting is like manual labor it's like. That's Just. To you. Then we're just living in talk know and share yen. Yeah but but I also can see there are times. There are people were like Oh. Yeah. Just just likes me just at least. I you know. I it's it's a lot quicker. Just that's true. Yeah I mean I have like four maybe four P I have two people that I talked to every day but at maybe four friends in general that I I talked to a lot. Yeah. And it's it's really like. A tool that's. That I've picked up. During this time I print down and I'd have to zoom I like I. Feel. Yeah. Because you can walk around you don't have to worry how you look you don't have to. If you're. Motive the bathroom you know. You're careful like if you just if you p not on the water but on the in you sit down to pee on the right exactly and and if you like. Now you gotTa Poop that's a risk. It's a real no it it can be done and. On on the person. and. You might have eaten. You might have to hit mute once twice. And then there's and then there's the you know you get all gathered, your gather yourself, and then there's the flush in the dark you know like Oh i. Like to get away from the sound of the flushing quickly. I mean I did it this morning before? Coming here. was on the phone with a friend and I did the flush Dart Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. No. That was that was a street sweeper. Like what is that the garbage? Sorry you were saying. I love doing chores on the phone to like. It really helps me like anytime I have to do the dishes I think. Yeah Oh but if I'm on the phone with someone than it's it's like a it almost feels like a group activity. Yep, and that's where the headset see I had the same headphones had loaned that you're wearing and I when I'm on the phone, it's it's good because like especially talking to my mom, it's like It's a it's. It's it's like I get it. You know she needs time and I give her time but I get stuff done during. Hearing the symptoms. So. When you what? When do you head out on your own? Well I So you know I got involved in drama club and then through and the drama club was run by this guy who worked at the mill all day a one then would just volunteer. Like In the evenings to like help us put on plays and I'm like I could cry thinking about that. Yeah it just. Opened up my my whole world that's like where I made. My childhood best friends and that I saw him in touch with and I but anyway I. There was. So the town that I'm from is like fifteen hundred people. There's a town twenty miles away wrong view, which is you know a bigger twenty, thousand people. That's where Walmart is. That's where the malls. That's like one you go. If you want similar culture semi similar situation with my town, we didn't go to Chicago we went to Aurora and Aurora Aurora was like it started as a mill town because it had riviera and yeah. But it's you know it's like a medium sized Yeah and now pretty depressed midwestern city at. That we never the notion of like going to the city to go shop was quite Batman Aurora that was that's what y'all was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I ended up like. There were like summer camps, theater programs there, and I I did like. A play there it was sort of similar Zoa children's theatre. In that there were two adult actors and all the rest of the actors were kids, and one of the actors was this woman an actress named Joan Mankin. Lived in San Francisco and taught at a performing arts high school and she invited me to come live with her and go to that performing. Arts School in San Francisco in San. Francisco. And Mom said no, and I was I could have murdered her I. Yeah. But I mean, of course, I understand why but then? Sort of the compromise we made was that I got to move in with my cousin in Longview to go to a bigger school where they had theater classes and dated musicals causing in class can Iran from like. We did plays, but we didn't use the goals and. So that was. I left I did that when I was sixteen I moved out And sort of was the half independent half not yeah. You know. And then you happy that or was it? Was it tough flick? Oh. I. Loved it like looking back. There were there were like I didn't have a like. Role models for like being an adult. Yeah I didn't. mean. They're all working. You know. Like even my cousin was an Obgyn like worked the night shift. So we never crossed paths like. Ever really like. So. Look. I didn't know that there was anything different like that. There could be someone setting an example and helping me with things. But I was also like I don't think I wanted help I was really independent and like fuck you like like my cousin even like imposed. For the first time in my life, I had a curfew. Of Ten PM and my I did not take to that very well. As soon, as he left for work at ten thirty, pm like I would come home at nine, fifty five soon as he left work at ten thirty, I was out like, yeah. Yeah I. Don't know where it like the grocery store with my friends to like by bread because yeah, absolutely. Yeah. You know like. To Do, yeah, we would. We would buy doughnuts and feed them to the ducks and thought it was hilarious that ducks are eating doughnuts. Like? Mischief we. Suck your curfew man we're feeding doughnuts to. My my we my brother and I have a brother. That's all three years older and we never had a curfew. But all my brothers friends did and what that amounts, who was that when my brother was bored, he go home and an or and then his friends would end up. Coming with him and staying at our house until literally like the took seven minutes to get home, it would be senates before they had to be home and even as a child, it was like, Oh, I see how this this is dumb you know. Yeah. Yeah. Unless it's arbitrary. Yeah. Unless your kids a maniac. Whose? Fire Bug or something you know. They'RE GONNA THEY'RE GONNA. And also. I mean as a parent is like you gotTa, let you need to let them start self regulating soon. Yeah Yan. Early, and and who? Also I. The one thing that I took out of my childhood that I tried to do differently is that just the feeling of being listened to and being respected. Like just not that feeling just do it because told you to like. Here. I'll tell you why you gotta do it. You know like your or what do you want and then listen to what you want the an you know working something out Sa-. Say I sort of had the opposite which was like. Like do whatever you want just leave me alone oh really. Just like. I honey I am tired like I I don't know what to tell you. Sort of being like okay. Well, all right. I'll figure something out I. Think I'll go get some donuts. I was always trying to come up with ways to. Make money before I was old enough to work like my friends I had like two two friends one who was also gay and one who has just really loud and everyone hated and so she was by the fought like with the gay guy. And the three of US would like we would go door to door asking if people need anything. Like Don. Right, like anything like for money. And then but my favorite enterprise we came up with was like it. It would snow like one or two days a year they're like barely anything but. When it snowed, we would go door to door an offer to build snowman's in people's yards for money. As. If like Oh thank God. God you take that off my plate. So. Empty. All these carrots. That's hilarious. Well, and so you graduate is your college near future or well yeah. I when I came out at Seventeen I. I made other like gay friends in this slightly bigger town, and then on weekends there was this underage club called the escape in Portland or how and so it was like an hour drive away. So we would go there and that's when I met my high school, my first boyfriend and he lived in Portland and he would drive down to longview every Friday after school pick me up. Take me to Portland and drive me back on Sundays. At you know in in the evening but so he was a year ahead of me in school and he went to Nyu. and. So. I had I had always wanted to live in New York, but it was just like. It never occurred to me that I could. Living on the moon nice yet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like how do I even get like? Yeah. How do I even buy a plane ticket? Yeah but being you know. So alone codependent and very you know like much La like a teenager in love in this relationship, it was like I will find a way to be near him and like I. Thank God because that's what me New York and and that's when I came here and I went to school for a year I lived. At the ninety. Second. Street Y.. That's where the schools dorms were for some reason. Yeah, and we got to see the lectures for free. So I was you know that's how I met Marian Selby's. Well. Leeson. Yeah. You know. And and I imagine that as most wise arts hotbed of sex, right? Yes. Though ninety seconds she. Just an ongoing or G Y- win. With the Gray Andrea Dworkin showing off. Yeah. Yeah with now. Did you did you drop out of high school? You mean, after you graduated as a dry graduated as a senior I applied to every school in New York, I went to the one that accepted me which Marymount Manhattan College Yeah Yeah and I went. For a year I liked it I didn't know what I wanted to do. It was insanely expensive I afford to take out like. My is like we got rejected for loans and so like there's just no way for me to keep going. Yeah. So I So my options were like move back home and like go at, you know state school or a community college or like. Go back to New York and just like. Work. Become a cabaret star, become a cabaret star, and so that's and that's what I did. Yeah. So and and is there any pushback from anybody to stay home or they're just like you? Know you're you're. You're up and you're out in. Again it's like it was just like leave I don't. Leave me alone I don't have I. Don't know what to tell you. I don't can't afford it like. I love you. Yeah Yeah have. Fun. Was was part of it was your gayness too much was it kind of just like? I'd was too much for me. Everyone else was like fine with it. Just like I I was going crazy. I was like you and as especially after then being in new for a year like the thought of going you know from. New York. Toscano. Oregon like there's no way and how can you imagine yeah, yeah. So then. I came back and I was miserable for many years than than now I'm here. Miserable just morning. Change. It clicked. Yeah. Yeah. I finally got that eight hours. Now what what he did. You come back and as it just like. Well, let's see how it goes. Are you still with your boyfriend at this point? No, no no. We broke up before I even got to new. York. had been accepted into the school so I was like well. I guess. Yeah it's yeah I guess I'll just follow through with it right and also it's New York still. Excited about that? Yes. was that transition difficult was like? Clan, whatever to what is it? How is it? How do you say? Deny birthplace of. Raymond carver correct. Raymond Burr. Raymond Burr. No. Can I? Tell Longview to new. York. Do you get to new? York? Are you are you frightened? Are You well as I'm sure you know like? You're you might be somewhat familiar with the upper east side. It's not exactly like Oh, my God overwhelm. Because the school was on the upper east side and you know you just never think to like. Go venture out of the little. You know I mean even now I, I haven't been to Manhattan since. March like the of the pandemic and I'm and I need to write. So I'm. Like. It was just like a it felt. Right to me I was like, yeah, this is where. This the everything's open. Twenty four hours. Yeah. Like me. There's. There's lots of elderly people. Who Fun elderly. Some pretty good German restaurants. Orlean there used to be I don't know. I don't think there are any more. Yeah. It's it's sort of bridge and tunnel. Is it in terms of the nightlife scene? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. was. So when you get back, what do you do you stay in that neighborhood what? Why moved to Spanish Harlem, on with some other people that were in that met through college and I worked at a children's bookstore for like. A wages that like no one should have to live off of and you know, I, mean you know you're young and and. Not I'm old but like I was. Nineteen. It was. Felt normal to me to like walk one hundred and three blocks to work to save the dollars Yeah that I could buy for lawful afterwards, right? Yeah. It is. And and how do you start performing in New York? How do you kind of get into that? That wasp's. Nest. Why I never considered that I could be Performed like as soon as I got to new. York I was like. You know because all I really saw. Performance was like the theater program at this college and College theatre programs are not very enticing. Or? Enticing to me I was like, I it's not something. Of I I always. Ask Charles Grodin. WHO's. I mean, take whatever you want about Charles Grodin but he wrote you're very funny his first memoir But he recounted going to theater classes and yeah, and like being the teachers just being infuriated because he constantly would say why like they would give an exercise and he'd be like, why what does that do with learning lines? What does that have to knowing blocking and I? Went on a few theatre I making air quotes classes. Yeah. I took. I. Just I was so struck by that like, why are we doing this yet there it was very it seemed very cult like to me. Yeah. Like one of the I I did a show. There through a student theater production because it was the only way, I would be a like either had. I didn't WanNa go home for the winter holiday. So I wanted to stay in the dorm the only way I could do that was to either take a class and it was too late to enroll or being some sort of production. Yeah. So I auditioned than I was like. I need this job. I. Don't understand. Yeah. But I really like confused by all of these weird rules that like everyone had agreed because of like one guy like the head of the theater department was like Oh you're like don't ever look up. Like. that. I. Remember that was one of the rules like don't ever look up. Don't look up online dating look. Yeah Yeah. Don't look I. Don't remember why. He has like some explanation but like as I remember thinking like I, don't like theater performing Yeah Yeah and on. Yeah. Looking at. A good thing to do when I'm getting on stage. Especially, you know like not being that used to being on stage is to fill my head with a lot of bullshit chores. Yeah. What is very like stifling and instructing and like. Yeah. So I also think there's an aspect to. At, and it's the way people who are in teaching people how to act in kind of more classic kind of way I think that their rationale Ford and the way that they would defend themselves is that it's getting you out of your head like, yeah. Having you be a tree or embody after the notion of you know whatever you know hunger. Yeah onstage stage and be hunger. You know I it's just to make you forget about yourself. But can have the opposite effect. and. I I also think about I also think and this is just from my experience with acting in my acting is that I've done is almost all film and television acting but you. Don't forget about yourself like you've got gotta kind right like you. You need to be in control of yourself and think about what you're doing and make choices not just like. Some free flowing thing and that was always and it also felt very mind funky and very. Like I had so many. There are so many sort of teachers that were teaching acting that it just felt like you just like. Telling Kid, Howard Yellow Yeah and he always, it always seemed like it was kind of creepy beliefs sexually charged you know. Yeah. Yeah political like like you will not get the lead this year like it was political and it was like she promised me we did wild party. That I would get the Queenie. And like. And then she did that to teach you a lesson about expectations like what are you learned? Yeah. It's like why do you need this little puppet theatre of humans? Right? We're not writing a play we're performing. The Torri questions with Andy Richter is supported by better help online counseling. If you're struggling with anxiety or depression or stress right now, you are not alone. Oh boy are you not alone better? Help offers online licensed professional counselors who are trained to listen and help counselor specialize in many diverse areas including depression, grief, anxiety, relationship conflicts, and more. It's simple. You fill out a questionnaire to help assess your specific needs and get matched with a counselor in under forty eight hours. 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We can make money if we do like a live show. Yeah, and so. We, we started performing the the the basement underneath the Daryl Roth Theater in Union Square and we did like a a live show. Like Alive Sitcom sort of saying, and then we then. We did a show at Joe's pub and then executives from logo. The logo network happened to be there and they were like. Basically said, we want you to make something for us and they asked us to make like thirty minute blogs for their like website and hung we said. We'd Rather. Like last sketch, let's make a sketch show. So we. Filmed it all on you know the Laptop Camera and edited in movie like you know. Costumes were like a jacket as hair. Like children playing around and we turned it in and they were like great. We love this. We're GONNA put it on the air. And so we got our we had a sketch show on Fridays at midnight on logo. More money or do they just know? Not. Fat knows I we're eight. Thousand dollars total for six episodes of television. No fucking way. Yeah. Shown you logo. Demand you in there I don't WanNa say defense but like the next season, we then have like a more normal television deal but we were so excited. We'd never done anything before and like. I wouldn't I wouldn't change it like I would have I, would still take that thousand dollars and be like you know what? This is actually a good. Start and the absolute be more valuable than I understand that. But still they know. Better, jail. La felt that way so like when they hire you to do a log and then they get this. They. It's they're not naive they. They're getting in that room looking at this stuff and going Holy Shit. This is arable. Wow. What a bargain we just made. Yeah. Because don't tell these young impressionable hungry kids yet. They deserve more. Yes we had it. After I worked with the real live Brady bunch with which is like Jill Solloway. Who's now Joey Solloway. His sister. We did this pilot for MTV sketch comedy. There was using a bunch of us from Chicago that had been together at the theater and Brady Bunch and they paid a so little and we know like. When? No? Leverage in the thing. And the deal going forward for all of us know I feel maybe nine or ten of us I just I realized like if this show gets picked up. I'm going to have to bartend. and. I'm a very potentially be standing behind a bar with my the sketch show that's on a national network behind me and ad will be like, when did you do that? Like? No, I actually have a six am call time tomorrow. Yeah. That was yeah. I was working at a like the the day the show premiered I had to pick up a shift, the bakery and I remember feeling like. Sort of like enjoying the fact that it was unjust. Is. Well here I am in this bakery and little these idiots know that I had a television show premiere ten night. I shouldn't be covered in flour. I. Should be covered in glitter. And Yeah but then you know then that Bhagat like. More. Performance Connections Blah Blah Blah. You know. Slowly, and surely a career happens. Yeah and also way you also I think because you are such A. Such a funny funny funny funny person such a talented person. Then you to meet your welcome you get to you know then you're like you become pals with Bridget Everett and you become house with amy. SEDARIS and you get. An how that's how like the happiest kind of show and then you know yeah. Rigid I met early on in like. Like I think I, I met her at this show that she did it a gay bar on Sunday nights. Yeah. Vary hopping for for a gay bar. It was during a blizzard and me and Jeffrey and our friend who is the DJ were like we're the only people there and still did her songs and it was like it was like I just remember being like, wow, this is. This lady is. I want to be her friend Oh she. it's a cliche but yeah, force of Nature Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. She's really there she's she is one hundred percent herself. And that's great. Yeah. horrible person. Horrible Person I know I know now she doesn't tip. Cigarettes out and journalist ears. So but then. How does that transform into? Then you like doing a solo show like 'cause you're. Help I'm stout that was yeah. That I was at a pub. No I started doing that at the duplex. Okay. and it was like it was. After Jeffrey, after two seasons of our. You know. Lo. Fi. Sketch show he moved to La and then I was I had never like. Doing stuff with him I had never performed on my own before and so. I for a few years I did like sort of floundered I did some regional theater I did some cabaret but I really don't like singing and it's I think singing is embarrassing. Yeah. makes me feel embarrassed I mean no I watch people singing go like Oh my God I feel I feel the same way about like real acting like when I had to be like say a line that I just Let that A. Just. I feel just like I whenever I Gone Rama Yeah there I've done I've done I've done good draw not a lot I'm but yeah. But there's been some like just regular old TV drama that Ibn I feel like so much more embarrassing than like. Showing my asshole you know yeah. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely then then like cry and say like mom mom died like I would rather. I would rather have the. Exactly. So then you get back to New York and you decide I'm going to you know. I. Yeah. So I, I was here and then I I I just knew that there was something like I just felt like I can do something that I'm not doing right now like I know but I I couldn't find anywhere to do it like for some reason. Likes second city and things like that are upright citizens brigade all seemed. On again like that same mentality of like Oh. That's what that they wouldn't take me. So let's figure something else out. Yeah but. Yeah. What do you really think they wouldn't take you or do you think we'll know we'll take anyone who could pay the. Price of admission and maybe I would've like loved it. Blossomed. But it just didn't seem like because I didn't have any connections there and at this point all of. My work and stuff came from like. My friends that I was having fun with yeah. I but anyway, I was like. I just decided to challenge myself to write. an hour long show. A. New our every month. And and that's sort of how I started. Wow. Finding my what I like to do. Yeah. Yeah. That's that's that's to make that challenge of yourself as really it was. It was one of the. funnest times like I think on my deathbed I'll be like I'll think I'll be thinking about performances. And when you put that pressure on yourself in deadline and yourself talk about taking the pressure, you know taking the extra like you have no choice like you gotTa. You GotTa? GotTa make the donuts. You know. Yeah, it was also like. I decided to do it because the duplex let you keep it hundred percent of the door. They just made money off of the tree drink minimum. Yeah. Yeah. So I was like, okay. If I charge you know eight dollars and they're seventy people like that's a little something to help with rent like yeah, it was also A. I just because I had done shows, other places and I. You know there's always a door split and I would you know get the check and I would be like I wait it was sold out like yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. So that was one aspect of it that I. I enjoyed like yeah. Yeah And then A that led to like You know after doing that for like three years, I had all this material most of it not good but like I had enough to like create a good. Show that I was proud of and that's like a show that I i. Did it at Joe's Pob, and then I took it on tour and then I then. I sort of wrote a I. I sort of went for my b sides and created a new show out of that. Yeah, and then and then I. Recently. In in quarantine filmed a special by myself. And put it on Youtube and is that is that stuff from the shows? Yeah that's all from the show. Okay and it's his holy. Shit that was funny. Oh. Thank. Yeah. Yeah. I thought the night it came out or something and my kids all with the three of US watched Oh annex me Oh it was so so funny and thanks and the closing number I don't WanNa spoil it for anybody, but they should look it up. and. Just as they as they say watch to the end because the number I think we rewound watched it five times. Thank you I I'm really it's. It's really like. Something I'm really proud of because. It's I. I when I was doing the show I wanted to I was like I'd love to preserve this somehow. Yeah. But it didn't feel right to film it because on stage I'm in my underwear I'm during the costume changes like in front of people running very messy and something about like filming a stage version of it felt like. Unbelievable like it would be to like like will you clearly had a budget to foam this? Why are you doing it like this? I understand that. Yeah and so then when. The. The lockdown happened I. was like, Oh, it actually would make much more sense if I filmed this all by myself in my apartment. Yeah. Yeah and I feel really good about like that I think like. Here's the proof of the work that I did. Yes years and it also has helped because the circumstances of it. Like you said. In this case, the circumstances are a direct link to the motivation of the thing you know yes you're right. If you're like there's so many things that you see it's like well, why are You Yanni you. Don't need to do this by and that. Yeah I guess just not. Yeah exactly. I don't buy that. That's like said Yeah Bet bottom line thing of what? I my main critique was so much of show business. By which people end up I I don't buy it just take out of it and I'm bad at stand up because I feel like. and to honest yeah, I hate repeating myself I do. And so when I tell a story, I'm terrible storyteller because I'm like so the other day I don't know I. Guess this was. Like a month and a half at. Oh God no. Mom's birthday was okay. So two and a half months ago, and it's just like they don't care about those. fucking. In my brain I'm like tell the truth coal that's alive. Yeah well, I have that compounded with Improv training, which is always which is and it's Macho Chicago Improv Training Del Close Improv Training, which is Y-. If you say at once you shouldn't say it again. Okay Yeah, you came up with a character that was an in many ways. It's it's almost adolescent in its anti commercialism. Came with a great character now, you can't do it again. I mean. Yeah and if you're just going to be doing shows in okay but out in the real world like no, if you come across something I know may remember seeing when I saw like one of my my successful friends doing material that I had already seen and it killing and being better than the time before when I had seen it, I was like. You, you're allowed to yeah. Yeah to do it twice. Or three or four hundred times. Yeah. The time the time when it really. Got In the way of my life was when I started. When I started working and then I would have to do press things and yeah, you get asked especially like junkets for a movie you go and it's Two days of the same questions over and over and over and I would say I would. Tell. You know they'd ask me a like how was it on or whatever? Why Ham this and I would have a story and then the next fucking shit would come in and be like so thousand this happened and I and I would feel like we'll have to see it different. I know it. You know a couple of years where I'm like, stupid say the what the fuck say the same nobody ever sees this stuff you know, right? Right? No one sees it. It doesn't even if they did they wouldn't be like yeah. Hey. said it was fun onset twice, right? Exactly. Yeah yeah I know I know. Yeah I totally understand like, yeah. You just not wanting to repeat yourself. Yeah. But but I wanted to say like the other thing that I loved about about doing this special in your apartment. Is Not only was it sort of like make complete artistic sense in Cova why you did it it was extra crazy. It may like it gives his whole air of like Miss Habersham in San to the whole. Yeah which was so fantastic and I mean 'cause that's kind of even stage it kind of has a bit of a like A. A A performing a monologue for yourself. Kind of thing I the the when I was. For my mom got me a one of those. You know tape recorders with a microphone attached and I would just lock myself in my bedroom and talk and talk and sing and make up stories into it sometimes with the tape in their recording it most times not a psych. Just like I love hearing my voice come out about. Little speaker and I am like that has always been like the the feeling that I sort of chase when I'm performing. To like, yeah, I. See has the most fun for me. Yeah. Yeah and it's fun for me. Then you know yeah, and also like the de your I mean I don't unless I'm like you're to sort of. Most indelible television characters are your character on difficult people and then cassie on Amy Sedaris this show. Yeah and and those both are so fucking funny and must be so much fun to play for different reasons I mean they're both sort of self involved assholes but. But. Which is always fun. Fantastic yet like especially, what was the name of your character on Difficult People Matthew Matthew Holy Shit Matthew like the worst person on earth worst person and it was like. Like. I'm Al-. I'm always auditioning for like those the role the you know the gave receptionists. Reich. Right excuse who are you here to see like? And this was sort of. This character, it was safe to play up the stereotype of that because. The character was awful and there were other gay characters in the show so. It's A soul, a very safe space. You're gehring all of homosexuality. Shoulders yeah. Yeah. It was through a a a very self-aware Lens and so it was fun to just wear a boy from Oz show jacket and like with my scarf in people's faces. Any work you know and never do anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. I Love I love workplace comedies like but they don't. I also love to that like. And it's it's just like some of the best characters sort of for me like all of Chris Elliott's career was the absolute useless idiot who is the high status character of the whole thing you know like in his like and you were that character? He's yeah he's the highest status person there knowing can tell him what to do and I and and he's just a waste of. Your. Every. Other characters life he's just. He's an amusement but mostly. Like at times even gets in the way of the forward progress of the grab -solutely lutely. Funny and that's an. For you Kinda Jillian and billy, wrote that for you Julie wrote it Julie and. I got the part because I happen to be in La when they did a table read and I'm not sure if she wrote it with me in mind. But most of my research it said that it said maybe I I think I've heard her say that too and I'm I'm just being modest and so like well, no, I'm sure it she couldn't have it. Like. She might be lying Schmidt be lying. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? She's Liar I'm calling out here I WANNA start. A feud right now, Julie Julie about whether or not she wrote that part with me and mine. What she knows, how delicate you are. How I need need need the but it was fun and that was like the first time I got to be a writer's room to on that show and that's bring. Yeah. Yeah. What was that like how how is that 'cause I mean he'd worked with with Jeffrey. Laboratory and and. Was that kind right? Yeah. Yeah. That was it and then you know everything seem so intimidating until you get in there and you realize oh this is just people. But these are just people doing that like. I you gotta finish script and you look at it and it's all formatted correctly and you're like, oh, all these abbreviations like, Oh, why why is cut to on the other side of the Pie? Yeah Yeah. Yeah. And you think I don't know any of that. I am an I. I can't be a writer and then you get in and it's like the writers don't even do the format you know example coming up with ideas. Yeah. So that was that was an eye opening experience. For me like. One of the primal reasons for doing what like sit around be funny with funny people. Yeah. Yeah. It's like what the fuck and get aid for it. You know yeah. Yeah it's just And that's not to be pollyannish because you're creating a product. Sure. But but it is but it is like, wow, it's just and so my on. You know. It when I got like writing on Amy's show like almost every night I would leave that that room and I would go like wow I just got to spend hours laughing with like one of my heroes. I it's incredible. Yeah. So Yeah. Yeah Well Do you what do you see my life? I have a hard time seeing life Pasco? Vit- I think about like what it's GonNa be and what my plans are and yeah, you know whether you know and there are days and I'm like I am GonNa come out of this thing guns blazing. Out of college. Other days where I just think like well, maybe I'll just retire you know. My mind is in retirement right now I'm looking at I can't afford to buy anything, but I'm looking at real estate in the Scottish highlands I'm looking at Tassels I. I really am every day are they like? Well are they cheap? You could buy a castle there for the price of a house in La like Y-. One Point Two You know but there's no, there's no plumbing and it's six hours from a grocery store. Absolutely. But like how IMPR- my fantasy is buying a castle in the Scottish highlands. And inviting people to like, Oh, I have this place in the country come stay with me. It's cute cute little place like there's there's space for you and then having them come up a two mile driveway to like a castle and acting like. Like. I'm sorry it's a little cold but. Yeah and then just. Huge. Herds of miniature ponies running around. Every, room covered in mirrors. But. That's really like I. Really can't picture. Neck like between next year and ten years from like my mind is or ten years like I'm GonNa retire at that forty three But. I mean I'd love to. But that's where my my brain is going right now. Are you are you working on? I mean you're R I sword of like you know I I was working on things. Before this started and then like writing projects that came to a stopping point and it's You know I could work on something I'm mostly I'm watching a lot of lectures. On historical but I'm watching a lot of historical lectures like I'm watching a twenty four part. Lecture on the Year Twelve fifteen right now. Wow jerk off too weird stuff. I do I certainly do An. You Bet I don't come until they mentioned the fourth lateran. Council. Absolutely not I. Wait I'll. How do you? How do you come upon the come on? How do you know do you decide like this start to happen that you're watching these incredibly minute? Lecture it's just like You know I I love the crown I love boring mood like historical period thing and then you know I run out of the Crown I watch Wolf Hall. I run out of those episodes. I am looking for other similar things. I watch a documentary on Youtube than I find. There's a lecture series on the year ten, sixty, six on this website, the great courses, plus so I watched that and then you know. Then, I'm like this is really comforting to watch. It's the great courses pluses like. If masterclass didn't faulk or have nice clothes. It's yes. Whereas masterclasses very slick and sexy. There's editing tricks this stuff editing tricks, the great courses plus is. A camera in a room with a college professor who has never been more excited to talk to you about the norman quote conquest. Yeah. Yeah and they shouldn't be on camera. This person should not be ever beyond camera there stumbling over their words but it's endearing and it's like they love what they're talking amount. So. And I don't remember any facts like I'll maybe remember to facts every life. That's what I was. Because I. Yeah. I don't think I. Yeah. But I feel when I'm watching it, I'm like, Oh, now I know that I'm right by smart look at me yeah, Yeah Yeah I'll show those people a bed that who talk about not going to college I'm going to college right now. At the University of Cova. Yup. I mean because that's kind of you know the to the Gimmick of this thing and the three questions like where you going and I mean. But yes, are you just? Feel like the world on pause you know so and also. I was talking to amy she was saying like this is the time to explore and. Like their times when I feel creative bursts I felt one when I made that special and now I feel like I'm. I'm collecting information that and I don't know what I'm GonNa do with it yet, but I just have to follow what I like and trust that. Eventually I'll be like, Oh, I'm gonNA, write a sketch show about the play or Some. All of that information come in handy yeah I hope. Yeah Yeah. Well this is we're you know I. Don't WanNa keep anymore this has been really a delightful I'm just glad we got. Let me tell you I'm so glad we had this extended chance to talk because I really have been enjoying your stuff For as long, I never saw the logo show. So I have to go back and watch some of those that would be almost unwatchable. Is it really it's hard to find. Well, the quality is just so bad and I like because it was we didn't have. We didn't have equipment and I'm bowling sound the sound is bad and stuff. Is really bad and it's like ouch. Yes. Well. I think it'd be I mean. It would you know I I. I will. You can't stop me from watching what I want. But. Well, I mean, what do you think the point of all of it is? You know what are you? What do you don't talk to strangers How does get that in? Don't hear I don't know I. Don't know what the point is. except. To to keep watching that keep watching that lecture series. I mean, do you have like a philosophy? Do you do people say to you? Do people talk to say like you know. What's your advice? What do you know whether it's fast personal or? I feel like like a I don't know. I always feels master Batori to be like this is the quality I love about myself but. One thing that I'm like relieved I have is like I I really. AM The most important. Barometer for myself in terms of like the work that I create like I. You know I've I've put out stuff in the past couple of years that like. I just wasn't. That happy with and like. I I don't know like it just. So you know the special that I made like it's not like a blew up or like it's getting me millions of jobs but like I'm so proud of it that I'm like I know that like that. Is like I I'm just so pleased that it turned out the way that I had hoped it had turned out when I started it, and that is so I'm so glad that I have. I'm my main goal is always to fulfill like myself. I, think I hope I. As somebody WHO's twenty years older than you? If not two how old are you? Thirty three thirty three I knew it Jayme Age twenty when he died. I. Am I'm I'm twenty years older than you and I will tell you the fact that you are coming upon that notion of. I did this thing it was a lot of work and you know it's not setting the world on fire but I'm really proud of it and it's yeah and it is and it's not like it was a failure I mean it's no no people saw it will have. This forever online, it's not like you know at and there are people that saw that will give you jobs. There are thought that will WanNa work with you, and there are people that saw that will. Then see something else that Iran ago I remember that's that guy that did that that Youtube special in his apartment and and it will matter. But the main thing is that you just like. You spent some of your time on earth doing something that was fruitful and satisfying and fulfilling to you, and now the fact that you coming on that that you figure that out at thirty three and you know I can. I can retire forty three. No. I. Don't think you show I don't think you should I think you're GonNa you know out Emmy 'cause you're going to get to the end of those lectures and then what? and. Where I what? I need to learn how to season a cast iron skillet that's next on the list sets easy. You you you say that in a three, hundred, fifty oven. The skillet you cover it with it could be a light coding where you can do it on the stove you start with shortening or I like to use G. A. Okay. A BIG ADHERENT OF A. kind of coat the inside of it, get it coated dump out any excess, and then putting in that three, put a put a sheet of paper towels or a Pan, and yet and heated upside down in that three hundred, fifty degree oven for half an hour more. And then that will create the seasoning, and then you just don't. You don't scrub it with abrasives and you don't write it was soap. Right so Well, the now net. Yeah. Then now I am done Yes. After the lecture then go to college okay. Get your degree at something. Yeah. You know. Floral arranging. Yeah High Lie. So many things. Yeah we'll call the skull the. Thank you so much. Thank you some time and being on the embracing this podcast with your It's not really wisdom I guess You're you're you're you're. You're just your general Joie your Schwab Generale. And please come up to the castle I will I will absolutely and I'm Gonna I'm GonNa bring some really obnoxious friends with me in a trance that I can't wait. 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Sam Richardson

The Three Questions with Andy Richter

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Sam Richardson

"Hello Internet. This is Andy Richter and you are listening to the three questions. which is a podcast which you probably all this I don't even know why I'm wasting your time but I mean considering there's a pandemic on you probably have lots of time I. Know I do I mean I'd rather be doing something else. I'd rather be. I'd live in my life. Well. Anyway. I got. Sam. Richardson here I'm very. I'm very happy. I'm very. A fellow, a fellow. Midwesterner Ghanaian. Citizen. Like yourself here. Yeah. So happy to be here. Do you have any citizenship I just got my do I just like sent in for my door citizenship like this week Nice, yeah. And Timely Oh. Yeah. Definitely looking for that ripcord if need be. I know because I mean I mean up for people that don't know your mother's from Ghana Grin. And CONAN did one of the. His borders? Yeah. Yeah. Whatever the? Ghana and so that was. Pretty Fun it really was I hadn't been back to Ghana in years in years over ten years. Yeah, and so it was a chance for me to get back and then they do it with cone and like a full crew I felt like a big shot coming home. Now you're legit people. Know he's real showbiz they can. The whole time. I mean yeah it's and it's always nice. To have somebody foot the bill for you to go like, yes, it is just can't compare to till I could trip that has the personal side of you know. I side you know. Benefits did did you stay longer than or did you kind of come and go CONAN crew I I came in with the Conan crew? A. Get back to. A movie, those filming. So, I had to like. The timing worked out perfectly I'm also a big shot movie star. Yeah No. They get to say like I would love to stay and. But. I have new the. Yeah because if I went if I went home to see my folks, I think about three days I'd be. Ha- yeah I gotTA. I gotta go home and Watch your movie. What did you say movie? Movies exists so I have to go back to La. Yes. I mean. Do you have a good relationship with everybody back there I do it was like we we jumped right back on track like. Some family members hadn't seen in in so many years we got there and it's like we didn't skip a beat right back to everything. It was really great. That's really Does your mom live there. My mom is there who? Essentially half of the year. So she's there right now my dad's in. Detroit right now but my mom's in Ghana and so she's she's back and forth all the time. And they're still your folks are still married. Yes. My my parents are still married. That's well that keeps it fresh when mom's for six months. Yeah exactly. Yeah. I was I was certain that my parents when I was a kid I was like maybe the CA They're just not me. Kitchen junk drawer and find a silencer like. Straw Straw don't worry about it. How did you folks meet? How did out? A detroiter. We'll get to that later that's the name. That's the name Sam shows I'm really good at interviewing. And a Ghanaian. Meet which she goes to school or something no I'll get. I'll give you the shorter version. So it doesn't take a whole podcast time I got I. got time. To. ME. Honestly. Well my dad. WORKED FOR The Bergen Corporation. And then like a, he retired from Burger King after lady set up like a the first breaking in Harlem like in the seventies and then moved back to Detroit. Bought a house with his like like whenever severance earnings. Earnings who this cash bank account yeah. Yeah. Them his cash, his K cash the you're you're the king for the day. And he bought a house in Detroit and then one day his phone rings in the answers it and it's like, Hey, is Karen there and he's like Karen Yeah. I just landed from Ghana. He's got back from. Africa back from Africa and this is the number that was called come. Pick me up my Africa and then talking to this on on the phone with this woman for an hour and then was like I'm going come pick you up and so he goes to the airport picture of the airport and then she's like you gotta go to Ghana. You've got to go to Africa Trust me Africa's amazing. We go. You gotTA listen this guy named Mr Rafi he loves Americans just go to Africa. My Dad's like okay. So he flies to Africa is. Is the woman from Africa or she had no, she's a she's. Yeah Yeah And so he fights to Africa travel over West Africa and an end time in. Ghana. Looks from History Alfie goes office. Goes were meeting with him. And he's busy stabbing met the secretary. On his way. Ralphie's like. Well, why don't you meet me for dinner I'm busy right now but I'd love to see here for dinner and so he's on his way out secretaries like, Hey, I'm in town for another week or so while we get some dinner and so she's like, yeah, for sure. Yeah, he goes to dinner. And he's leading to misery office house. Since the table and Mr Misery Office sitting there his wife is kids two of his daughters, one of the secretary and that was my mom. Spent the rest of their time together rest recipes time and got together like every day. Then went back to Detroit they would run when London. And then back and got in Detroit London back trade the Monday again they both Detroit, that second home through it is. How many kids do your? Did you folks end up creating? Only me my mom's only child. My Dale has re kids per previous from a previous. Okay. So you have you have half siblings half siblings yeah yeah. With them in the house our exact no not exactly. There's at least fourteen years difference between. All of us made between my sisters it goes to my age and my my brothers Sir Sixteen years older and my other brothers twenty one years older than me. Wow. So yeah, it. Yeah Matt. Not a lot of. Wrestling in the backyard yeah. Yeah. Now that yeah. That's that's like having. You know they had they had A. Did you did you have that situation where you like you were an eight year old uncle? Yes. Yes. I had I have editors in my family. There's some of that. We're like my cousins like this little kid would come over and my cousins would be like that's our uncle. Yeah. Is Yeah I put my uncle to bed real quick. He's having a temper Tantrum you know. And you lived in Detroit your whole life then. I lived in I lived in Ghana. For like first and second grade, I lived in Ghana gels really Oh yeah and I would go back and forth like sometimes twice a year before that and after that up until high school and then in high school I couldn't go back and forth this much it's my parents would go but I would be you know because it's it's hard to take work packet for high school and then be gone for like two months So I wouldn't go as often or I wouldn't go harley obviously went twice between. From when I was in high school like full adulthood and Ben, I went from my cousin's wedding when I was twenty. No sorry when I was. When I was know when I was twenty, I went from my cousin's wedding and then I went last year. Yeah Yeah. Now, when you when you were when you went in grade school and we're and we're went to grade school, there were your was your dad still in Detroit did they kinda split time back and forth? Yeah. So he didn't like live. He had businesses to running things here Yea I say and then my parents ran a tour. Company, so they would bring tourists from Detroit. to Ghana. L. Knight and take him around Yeah it's called lifestyle tours. And so It sounds. Like a swinger swingers. Oh, my God wait a minute. That's a connecting. Also sexy. Hope, they weren't playing volleyball. What that means? If this because they were all sweating and covered in sand. Well I mean. Were you always funny kid did you or was on a house or your folks? Funny in my my folks are really funny But I was a funny kid. I didn't even realize it because I would always do kind of bits and jokes. But like fourth my family, they would always like not really get it and so they always do a joke and I get like a lecture on why it wasn't true when I said like, well, yeah, I'm kidding here. But my cousin, Wayne would always get my jokes and he would like to fall out laughing. Yeah. Use Lectures and lectures. Your parents are like. Early. Internet trolls. Yeah. Exactly. NEG Internet drove. That's not real I know. That splitting your time back and forth between Detroit and Ghana like did it like? Was it hard to? Assimilate either or as you kind of switching back and forth it was and I think that's also part of where my funny came from. Yeah. Because yeah I felt like when I was when I would come to Detroit or bacterial wherever I was like the African kid and when I go to Ghana I was the American kid. And my accent was kind of like a mix between the two for awhile. uh-huh. Like? I would say like. Waste Bin and Strawberry in like. Rubbish. You know and very like in Ghana my coat, my cousins and my aunts I would make fun of me because I would be like. Butter they're like Oh what? It's Stupid So I always like a between like straddling two fences Belaya sitting on it. But I mean is there. Is. It like a tangible difference in just kind of like in what schools like what group I mean are a group of kids the same anywhere you know a group of kids are pretty much the same anywhere. I got I went to an American school I went to Lincoln Community School, and so there was kids is an international school really but it was like established by Americans and so like my best friends were kind of from everywhere like my best friend part shot was Indian. My friend Alex was from Canada my friend Gert was from for was Dutch. Friends Sophie was French. Like so I had like a whole world of people go home. My family was all guy man like everywhere was gonna so I gotta go real. World View Yeah. Yeah it's from kids. It's it's an enviable experience. You know it's like I think that it's probably you know. you might have been you might have been a complete asshole otherwise. Yeah exactly. I I still was because I was like this is international, but this is my territory. You all visiting my home. Yeah. Yeah. Take it easy hurt exactly Gert Jan Meyer Amy dues. Did you have a preference when you were little. When I was little I was all about come to America I was like The movie and like the life. I was I was it was. So the things that are most important to me were the Ninja Turtles at McDonald's and just like summertime in America like that's why I was like it's got I want. Yeah. It's kind of. Like. A. It's like. American culture is kind of. It does it does big stuff right? You know yes. Lasted like. fucking hamburgers and coca-cola. Steven Spielberg, movies, they're all. Undeniable You can do about it. Yeah. Well did you growing up? Did you have? Did you have an idea what you wanted to do your life? Did you have an idea? You know we did you feel pushed in any way by by. Honestly. No I really did and I thought I was going to go into like business. You know my grandfather was a big business. Man Like industrialized. Ghana West Africa. And he was. He was a member of parliament and Ghana and he was a chief and so it was like, oh I think maybe I'M GONNA. Go into it seemed like the thing I always loved money so like it seemed like that was the thing. So I was going to go into business and I was like I'm going to make a corporation I'm going to be like a big time businessman with a suit on and like a briefcase full of money. A. Very Lazy. I didn't really really start getting into the idea of actually be. Acting like I love comedy and I love you know I love singing I loved theater and I left all these things. But. The idea of theater didn't like really hit me until. My Dad took me to see the show drip dreamgirls was enduring in came to Detroit. and. So he took me to see that and I was blown away. The musicals amazing. They did. He's quick costume and set changes which even talk about right now get like goosebumps because it was like a snap. It was a whole other set and I was like, yes, fully magic may I was enthralled? Avenir? That big names like was Jennifer Holliday or anybody or was it like for you like a a touring cast is the Taurean cast yeah and I guess this would have been in probably like ninety. Oh. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. So it's CA- revival in at any rate. Yeah. EXAC. Like before the movie and Mike, well after the actual play. Yes. Like Hey, keeping boroughs alive and dead and like I I didn't really consider it like a thing that you could do guy went to a very small middle school. They were like maybe sixteen kids in my graduating class you know. So we didn't have a theater program or anything. White one time like the music class did like HMS Pinafore with all the classes and all the grades in numerous just like in the Commons is a very small thing as we sure whatever. But I got the high school there was a fear program and I, I didn't realize it was a thing I want to end up going to an all boys high school I didn't realize it was all boys until the. Week before. Who Sat information from you your folks you know my folks essentially, I wasn't by again my parents we're gonNA. Go move to Ghana and I was going to go to boarding school in London. And then like last minute there like no, we're going to stay in. Detroit and I've taken the entrance exam the USB Jesuit high. School. And I was GONNA. Ask Me is it Catholic. Yeah. Yeah. Are. Are you. I am not. Your folks aren't. My my mom was. But now my parents were Episcopalian okay. Catholic light. Catholic way exact. Diet. Catholic yeah. So but so I'm sorry but anyway, so you get to high school and. High School and then like I'm I'm at football. Practice. And a bus pulls up to my school and it's like full of girls and I was like what? Goes. Into, the Commons some I gotta go find out what's going on. Here, for like play auditions. So addition for the play got in. Can you do football and play at the same time or I couldn't so I got football yeah lately good Jeff. From there to here, I definitely wouldn't have a super bowl ring, right? But probably many concussions. So what what? Went when you start doing theater. Well, first of all, in your in your school does the football to theater transition frowned upon in any way like not really because I went to an all boys school. So like a lot of the posturing that comes from Code gendered or you know Co ed yeah co Co Ed. Yes. From Co ed school is isn't there. So like everybody just like pals you know. So you do the plane like yeah. Sure. Football Team as sure and even later on honestly like our our our director of the musicals was named father. Ron Tarinah. And he was the foot he was he was the he was the College Guidance Counselor or the college counselor, and he would oftentimes suggest a member of the football team that they should Try the musical out to you know help diversify their Their resume their. In here. Yeah. Yeah applications. So we'd get football players on their and they would kind of fall in love with it because it was like a fun thing yeah. Yeah. And of course, we always accept and then like. And but it was never a transition like in the movies like in. What's what's the? What's the? Mike in Twenty, one jump street we're living in separated and one goes to the full monty in one goes to the play. Yeah. Yeah Yeah. Yeah Yeah I just because what else to you're like You're in a city and like we were in the country and football. It was a big deal. You know was I mean, I didn't watch a lot of Friday late nights but air Friday night lights but it was kind of like that. We're it was a big big deal. And and and like. You know like there were kids that if I've talked about this before. But like if you're big and you didn't play football, you like what what, why would you you know if yeah. Waste Yeah it's like as if you were like wasting food or something. Fire not doing like you know. I ended up quitting when. There was a we got a new varsity coach who wanted us to come in. Five nights a week for two hours to do weight training and run wind sprints and was like now it's optional because it was legal to force kids to do that in summer. Optional and I think you all know what optional means. I went home and I told I told my mom and my Stepdad and God bless them. They're like, Oh, you're gonNA quit aren't you? Just. Not Giving my summer to you you know man five days a week now. Yeah and there again. I, did not have what it took. Piano. I got a job at the store and instead so. They they go. In my head I also imagine like a guy who's got a clipboard and often puffing they get up and down the field. It's like you guys got do and sprints nonstop cough cough cough. Yeah. Sit down. This guy was not that this Guy Sky was yeah this guy was like a a. He had been kind of a he played kind of big time college ball but hottest me I say. So he he ended up being a coach and. And one one. Aspect of him was that he in college as you know like he would openly say it like he took badminton just as like a blow off course and fell in love with badminton. Gym He would like I would say thirty percent of your Jim Year was playing badminton badminton. Tennis and I was pretty good and my best friend was a really talented athlete. So the coach would he would insist that he was like it was a we would keep him entertained me and my friend Dave would play him and this, and he would he pick this kid that. That we had learning disabilities and probably would in today's world would have been a different school but coach picked jeff and Dave and I would play and we played every day. He would just play with us and he'd get really mad because Dave and I both knew. If. You hit to his backhand side he can't turn because that's his bad knee your. Knowing it was like we just get hammering. tongs. Ori Ruined his life. Shouldn't let us know about that and he. It to his back inside? But. Never water weakness. Now what did you did you feel like you're standout in in the theater department at your school and did you get acknowledged such? I did I did like the kids the other students were always big man. Fun House like also funny kid in class and like yeah you know. So take to theater thing like my friends would come to see the players just for me and stuff. and. Stand out there. So yeah, I of get an same time. I was also taking classes at second city in. Lao. When I was. Sixteen. I took my second city classes. If I. Turn Sixteen while taking classes. So yeah, I was. So I was like already k into getting into it. Yeah. Now, professional second can second city put you on stage at that age or is it just purely for? Yeah, for clash that's purely for classes and like every now and then get up on an Improv Jam. Yes. But also trying to hang back clearly I know that I don't know some of the like you've seen about an office I'm fully guessing what adults do at work. To, no one's benefit. Really. Treated like. Having, doing getting into things beyond class were you treated like a mascot, a second city kind of mascot and stuff for? Entirely. Young. I. I just like Kenneth Starr pointed this kind of started classes I got into them real heavy when I was in college and and then I was like old enough to. I seem like an adult. Did. They also like a mainstay at the bar from. Eighteen. Really Yeah Yeah. Questioning writing the answer on that? Yeah. Eighteen and you got a bar that they'll serve you. That's pretty close to. Four regular I would go there like I was spend like three to four days a week at that Bar, and then I would go. I spent my I had my twenty first birthday their. Owner was like Happy Birthday Sam. How old are you? Twenty one george. Mad. So Mad. Now. That's really great. So. So you I mean, it's not a, it's not A. A. Fetched thing for you start to think about doing this professionally since you're kind of immersed in it, which is a you need a unique experience. Yeah. Yeah. True. Yeah. I empire I dropped out of college because I was. I was working et. Of doing shows at second I was about to be under study shows at second city at that time and I was doing shows in the theater call planet ant theatre, which is like in Hamtramck. Small. So I was fearful the planet and it's still there where I was like doing shows and got to point where I was having a hard time managing both college theater and like professional theater and second city. So I was like, well, I'm GonNa Leave College Right and. It was definitely I was like scared to do that but. I was having so much fun and I really see a path like those correal you know. That Was An objective that I could clearly see and I was like, Oh, I want to be on the main stage of second city Detroit and from there I wanna be on the main stage in where I wanna be on the Vegas main stage and I want to be on the Chicago, main stage. Well, these things seemed like very far fetched but I was like you know but at least it was a path I could see you know and there were people in Detroit. You you knew like that had gone on and were making their living at this. Yeah. Yes. They're the group called three one three at Keegan Michael Key in Nyima funk Larry Joe Campbell. Bunch. Of Detroit. Ex pats would come in they would do shows in. In there because you're second city alumni and then they were there, they would come back to Detroit and do shows and I, and there was sometimes like do workshops and stuff. So I could clearly see them in that path. And then I can do that and there was something at. Second city call. It was like bluntly called by by the black cast members and things we call it the Jerry see minor underground railroad because. Jerry Yeah. 'cause we because you knew that if you were a black cast member in Detroit Kubat had a lot of black you know performers that they would need diversity in Chicago. So you would kind of go from there get fast tracked through Chicago System Yep So I I went from Detroit I got hired to do a cruise ship. So I worked on a cruise ship for a year for second city. Been, they took me to Chicago to do the touring. Company? The two years on the tour company and then the main stage for two years. And I mean that's not to say that I just went through because I was like Oh easy peasy. Oh No I know what you mean. Yeah but well, it's it's the same thing. I mean for my well when I was doing Improv. In Chicago coming up through because I was from there I just had the benefit of being from there and Yup, and then my skillset was sort of suited to it. It was just young geographical happenstance that worked out really nicely. But it was it's all. A bunch of white guys named Mike. execs. Chris's yeah. Yeah. It was just it was fairly white man. So what would happen is that? Is that women would kind of get the kind of. Like you say a fast-track like a a a a a woman coming through Improv Olympic who is talented would kind of get put on a team faster than a you know a the survey. Equally promising guy which you know but if you suck you suck. Exactly, they need if it's not anyone's fault. Well, that's arguable I was going to say it's Mostly White. Men. Like the Sharon help in del closer giving classes. It's not like they're turning away right? Anybody it just it's like, yeah no, it's. At the point is, is that yeah, you can. You know because of Meeting something other than white men onstage. Yes. White man you. You might get there but you gotta stay there. You know you staying there as is on you yeah. Yes exactly. Just. A. If. You have to actively. Like there. So it's so difficult to flourish. I would like even playing on Improv Teams in Detroit in Chicago. To Improv, team and you'd be with seven white guys and they're always trying. Unconsciously or subconsciously or whatever they'd be like, Oh, well, the the tone is typically white guys are regular and everything else those little some extra you know and I'm like I don't live my life like. I'm not myself a white person with a bunch of extras. Right. Not Like walk around all the time being like. Lack. A black person was you know comedy comedy definitely? Does that happens in Improv is like an improvident instant you have to be able to be anything. Yeah. You know what I mean and like they wouldn't let you do that. So. It'd be like in an an Improv scene is like all right. Well, we're three guys in an office, but he's the office black. Well, all right that is its own scene, but there are so many things should always be relegated to that like I'm able to play a a plethora of and also that. It comes with your assumption of what black culture and black rope means. So I mean providing with three people. They don't know what actually it is. So everything they put on me is an assumption or like a stereotype or some sort of thing that. Could be true or could be something completely made up but now I have to spend the scene either justifying or kind of like trying to like curve it to be that, and so I'm Mike doing three times the work to to make sure that show up and not just be relegated to whatever their idea was. Because, they they they told you what you are and that's not what you're supposed to do, and then for you to about something more. Like, you say it's it's extra work and for me the thing is. You know one, Del closest things I, think is. A thick it was the third choice like he'd say like there's the. Preventative, some get an obvious choice, and then the second choice is sort of the one eighty of that choice and it's the third choice that like the discovery starts. And an being onstage with the black person and going like hello black person. That's like first choice. That's just it's first choice and it just it just it's boring. Let's get to something new and different you know and. Also, we're supposed to be living in a in a society where everyone gets treated the same. You got to do you gotta treat you can't just like. It's like hello woman or hello gay person or just right how about Hello Ex exactly because. Black. Like my blackness, they've spills black like our blackness is it is who we are. It is our identity you know it it. It is like how we live in and view the world through this that that the circumstances that happen as a black person over the world has white person how the world treats you. These are all the truths you know. So as perform also it's important to you. Know you have to tell that truth? But. But but I think it the hard part I. The difference for for a stand up and Improv is like. Through Committee Improv through committee and so everybody then gets say on my blackness in an Improv scene. Yeah. Mike you don't know. Certain. That that is definitely. The No. Escaping The image that a person sees of me. When I'm performing an Improv scene, you know what I mean and escape. Maybe it's the wrong word. If that say like Oh what a terrible thing I wish I could hide it. No, I'm not saying that. Yeah Yeah you know what I mean like. Definitely. I am able to perform when an Improv see and I can't do this in a movie or or like A. Voice over I can be an property that can be in. I WANNA be a robot won't be Ralian of. That yeah. Yeah you know a Frenchwoman. Hi. They're more able to accept the idea and seen that I am a robot from planet xenon bread not that I'm a black CEO of a company you know what I mean why is that the point where it's? It's you I Know. AM I. I also I mean. I can sit I can sit here and say you know why not make it about something other than blackness and it's easy for me to season for me Whitey to say you know like. Canopy about something else and it's like totally not for me to say you know. Bad on a black performer or even like a show like Chapelle show me going something couldn't be about something blackness. You know well, what the fuck do I know it's it's totally not my perspective and I and I think in my mind I'm saying it as. A comedy should be read to say, whatever he wants is a comedy professional and television producer thinking like how can we always be doing something new and interesting because for me? Yep The you know the Kryptonite is boring just don't make it boring make it something I've seen before and so it falls into that. Like. But but there again, it's like it's more than just like the fact that it's it's a it's a trope. You know it's An also too. It's like. It's it's like you're making blackness a trope. You know what I mean like you know. The way that you're making it like the fat guy as fat guy it's like now it's like it's a little more a little way. He there I say than have. Yeah and also to it's IT'S I mean I've seen this. Repeatedly especially in in comedy spaces. Even you know forget Chicago out here. You know they're white spaces there frequently white space. Yeah. You can just see like. Liked the. It's just like like the white writer when the black rider is hired and comes in the white, that just can't just an just. Shut up just just. Don't don't say don't say it don't. He just like just the you know the dopey s kind of you know like like talking about hip hop or something it's just. China. Yeah Yeah and. You just know that like. There's there's just like the guys with that in the same room as a black person. I'd just like in their mind going he. He's black. He's black. He's black. He's black he's. You know what am I saying what do I say I? Don't want is wrong. I don't WanNa make mistake in a Exactly that If that is the key right because they're like is his. Either treat him. Wonder. How do I treat him instead of being like, okay. He's black great low loudest conscious a mixture that I met. I have not. Making assumptions on him that are my own and I'm not hindering him because of these things. Yeah, you gotTA acknowledge. You know like you gotta acknowledge. A person's sex, a person sexuality you gotTa. Acknowledge your history got acknowledge know there's things you have knowledge, but then you just you know. You yet. Yeah. Just be normal folks I. Guess That's just say I think that's the s the headline here. Normal normal you Weirdos. Three questions with Andy Richter is supported by better help online counseling. If you're struggling with anxiety or depression or stress right now, you are not alone. Oh boy are you not alone better? Help offers online licensed professional counselors who are trained to listen and help counselor specialize in many diverse areas including depression, grief, anxiety, relationship conflicts, and more. It's simple. YOU FILL OUT A. 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Hopefully, you're already listening to my podcast literally with Rob Lowe is what it's called but if you're not get with the program come on, we're having so much fun. I've had great guests. I like just unbelievable people, but I recently sat down with Demi. Moore. And Man, it was more than you can imagine it was a trip down memory lane. We've got your Brat Pack. We got your saint almost fire your about last night we go back so long and it's we could talk for five hours but happily for you because you have lives and you have other things to do, it's probably going to be only about an hour so I urge you. Listen wherever you your podcasts. Grows. Then how does I mean? Do you end up Oh you while you're on the cruise ship and then you come back to main stage and are I mean d start to feel like? I got a push mower I gotTA DO MORE GET A. Well. Yeah. Like so I came back. And I I moved from the cruise ship to Chicago for the for the touring. Company and I'm like, Oh, this is great. I'm having fun having fun but even on the cruise ship I was like. I got what I needed to have a second city. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO LA and they're like, Oh, wants to join the they want you under the Turin Company and I was like nominee move la they're like joined the touring government. Okay. Okay. You're like I do like riding around in a van so i. Know. That sounds great. I do like high school gyms so Did you do anything I didn't mean I don't know what tour company, but that's yeah. Yeah. We all we did high school gyms we did. Casinos. One time we did A. Marathon and they made us a booth a stage on a stop in the marathon. Oh, it was the worst show ever done in my God I can't even believe that. Yeah. Like you talking about like how were you able to establish a scene when people are literally running by you? He like who's going to get the setup and punch. Like. Either you're hearing you're hearing from fifteen second clips. And It was a man also going cast here. No, one can probably hear you at all. No. Here we are outside the sound was just going straight up into the heavens. It was the sloppiest massias thing. I've ever been a part of although that in certain point becomes freeing because you're just like. What S. Just. Laugh. Yeah. It's like it to the house is on fire guess going to burn and then this Exactly. Slash angels from Turco I. Mean. Was that fun? Did you enjoy it or did it get right in? I I. Really I really love Torque oh, because I mean I I went to I've been to every state now except for Alaska. And I mean I didn't go to Hawaii with Orico but I. BEEN TO HAWAII, I've been who I a little movie called Mike in Dave near where they. Just say you've been to Hawaii. Muslims. Movie, came out the two, thousand, sixteen you. Know, it really gave me the opportunity to like for first off the cruise ships. Gave me the chance to perform in front of a big audience on a consistent basis because we have like fifteen hundred people say the theater and really shows. Yeah. Huge. Entire cruise ship washing you. Get your reps in front of big audiences and so then what touring company did for me was it gave me reps in front of different all kinds. So we do something a blackbox theater we do something at a an opera house. And like all these different kinds of audiences or Redo something in your, you know we perform in like. Big Big City that we perform in. I'd say we perform a big theater in Detroit. Then we would go and do a small tiny theater in Fayetteville Arkansas like it was like all sorts a first experience of audiences. Performing the scale that is invaluable to learn that. Yeah and especially audiences it's not just the sort of. you know demographics of the audience. It's their familiarity with what the Fuck Improv even is. You Know Yep like you're doing this particular kind of comedy that requires patience and understanding and cooperation because it's like sometimes you need the audience to just sit tight until you figure out what's going on if you figured out yeah at. Yeah. That was something that gave us. So us from Detroit like me and Tim Robinson folks we would perform in Detroit and like the like certainly not the same audience as it is in Chicago. So you're a blue-collar folks who I can spend there is like I don't. Moving. We'll see this thing what is this stand up and you had to learn to get that audience on your side off the bat like you couldn't there was no time to like kind of like. Work your way through something like you just kind of learned we. We'll get something. What we learn how to get there fast hard funny, and then get that audience trust us so quick and then. Within that. You Start Finding like these beautiful nice labs and you can start weaving these webs but we come to the we we moved from Detroit Chicago and it was like we had a superpower. We'd get on stage like boom boom boom in the scene like audience like you laugh thin like a on board like following all of A. Audience follows every move. We make. You know because we knew in Detroit, you had to make them trust you so early. Yeah. 'cause. In Chicago, like it's academic. Of Improvisation, well, you you know I, I know that this is what a CNN. Been Detroit you had to have academic, but you have to have that hard. Yea. Land and you learn it's not like you do say like you do the same bit but you do learn a an energy or like you gotta hit hard laugh. You learn tricks that aren't necessarily like, I'm GonNa, tell this same funny Joe Graham going to be the same funny character but you do know the kind of energy in the kind of pop that you need to give it and I would say. Even in Chicago when I you know Chicago and we would do Improv shows and people would come up afterwards and say like. So. That's really all made up but this didn't couldn't believe that like I mean it's like also like. When people would say that it'd be like. Okay there we're good what we do and that was kind of fun. I would think we're it's funny but it's still a fucking mess mess. Jimmy. She noticed like the scene that didn't make any sense at all. On Real Like. We'd written why would we write that? Right on all those mistakes. And that also makes. Go the idea that like you Improv is such a live thing. Watching a tape of if you watch the. Video of Improv show you'd be like, no. Yeah like in the moment you feel like you're part of your watching those moments. Audience is going to be your partner and they're gonNA forgive everything else if you get that big POPPA big moment, they're like, wow, that's brilliant and they'll get about all those fumbles and all those kind of like nowhere nothings as long as you get to that moment and it's like, yeah, it's the magic of that moment. But if you read a just record that and then like show that same audience that exact same show on a screen they'd be like. I always like. I remember years ago. Sitting on a panel at. The the first. UCB. In like the first permanent. UCB in New York. On Twenty Second Street. And I was on a panel talking about Improv like it was just like a sort of you know like it was like good for Improv students and stuff and but I can't remember what? I. Think was part of a comedy festival. But Amy Poehler was on stage with and a few other people and I said something about like. Well I don't think improbable ever work on TV because the remote is its biggest enemy because you're you're not going to sit there and wait for people to figure things out you when you got the remote and you got eight thousand other choices and they said Yep and I and I said something like and because Improv sort of inherently apologizes for itself like. It's saying to the audience. Given cut us a little slack here because we were making this up and that's kind of cool right? So don't be like not funny right up. To give us some space and was like, no, no no, it does not. It's like it's a viable art form and it can be on TV and I was like, Oh okay but. I mean. Because even like the supposedly like Improv. Shows, that are on TV are not reading you not sexually yeah yeah they. Like their freshly written, but they're not. Back to it and. You might not be on a script, but they're you know some they had some time to think about it. So exactly. And like there definitely tracks like. To do like a full show to. Curb your enthusiasm, which is improvised of on track because outline them. You follow like if it was just Improv, you'd never be able to have set. You never have locations and sets isn't in order to cause like in Improv you can go anywhere at any time. You know like an Improv, you're like Oh man, let's go to firehouse like Oh firehouse. Now we have to find a firehouse to fill. Impossible right and I'll just. You know and I want to ask, I want to ask about that just so that people can know what that because you've been on that show but you know to me that thing that people are always like, Oh, you know you probably being in a will ferrell movie you prob- guys probably get to like really fuck around do whatever you want. It's like yeah. But the thing is is you're only lit in like this foot circle and and you can't you can't just like I'm going to run across the room because the cameraman doesn't know you're going to run across the room and follow you and somebody's got to change the focus on the Lens. And? You're going to run in front of a light in. Improv on film is basically like. E You. There's a I mean you can do a whole. You can make up the words if you're going to sit and stay in one place. Usually. My experience with Improv on film is. Is You. Can Rewrite a joke like they're know you get to a point and then you know like a made would on. been on a few will Farrell movies, and certainly that was the thing like let's run a few others and then that becomes the extra. You know like a secular yeah. Yes, and it's always like I always loved doing it because it's like there's nothing more. Fun To me than surprising the person you're doing the show with like coming up you know like when you can surprise somebody and make them almost laugh it's the best. It's the like if you can make, you can make the other person fuck up and laugh it's the best. It's like such a charge and you feel so great and it just feels so silly you know. What was what was what is working like? What is what is curb like when you go there like do they just? Is there any kind of script they just give you? Know Kind Kinda like no. You get like a paragraph Kinda I. Hope is not like it was him giving me trouble for how the sausage is made but like a paragraph of like welby listening to this I'm sorry. Oh Let's go ahead and register. Give a paragraph and you're like, you kind of know what's happening in the episode in like essentially it's a scenario that you're giving them the script like. It is improvised but you know not. In my episode I knew I was with Mary Holland we were married couple and she was pregnant and we knew we were coming to Larry's house. And that I was going to give him my watch and I can make uncomfortable job. A question about like which interracial baby would which would side do I want to do I want to be a little darker? Happy if he's a little lighter and so that's the that's the leary. Yay. We knew that was coming. So we that we knew where it had to begin we hit those beats and then we knew it had to end with me giving his watch and then getting out of there. Yeah. So. It we would go in then improvise it and like the first time through, and then go back and like re improvise accounting of knowing what to hit what to miss kind of what to What to of focus on because that's the thing I also the cameras that we have to adjust the cameras and then again couldn't do a completely different scene because then it wouldn't match right. And if you some good when they shoot Larry's close above it, he's got to react to that thing that you said that we have good and you've got to say it again and I imagine they tell you that say that again, we're going to keep that for sure. Yeah. Yep exactly and you can tell like they just taking notes and make sure what is good stains Know What tracks the story so you're e. So. Yeah. So the Improv gets narrower narrower as you go because you found it and now then you're Destroying to match it so that it matches soon. So I I think that may be the most Improv. TB thing I've. Done. And I think that exists. Yeah But it's like very much. It's it's more on rails than you think. But as an improviser, it is more loose than I had expected. Yeah. Yeah. I can see that. I mean the point of this is like a way to fuck heaven Ibn on curb. That's that's when that's why had you here? Oh you think you are level. I've done. I have plenty in my life. So, when you're are you folks a are they are they behind all of these these you know as at this ride I mean they're not like. I don't. You know learn dentistry you know. Another very proud and they're very into Aibo. He's been various super supportive my. Dad's always been into the arts like you've Oh, like he. He's very involved in the the opera. Detroit allow. Yeah Theaters always been like great for him. My mom my mom is just always one hundred percents supportive. No Matter War I WANNA. Do Oh, that's great because I was like mom I would try cracks you'd like okay I'll get you some but chocolate crack makes her it's good and it's GonNa be the best crack them. Okay. I know somebody that I I'll call friend of mine. Well So how does that and you know how do you how do you get out of that mid Western turn like how you know what what brings you to la or was it L. A. or was it New York. Yeah. It was truly like the path of my my my path in my head was I will go to second city Detroit hopefully, go to second seizure cargo then I'll go to snl you know. It'll be that's the path I see and. I, I, I did Detroit then went to the cruise ship did Chicago touring company. I was going to quit the touring company I was like I've been I've been talking for two years and move to La, and they're like our the mainstay so. Two years. Addition for twice to screen tests and it was. There I I was going to. The only reason I was GONNA do another year at second city would be to audition for SNL again and I'm like will you know what I can do to hire me or not and? and. And they were very much like A. Yes but there's not a space for you yet and I was like I don't know what that means and that's okay. Sure. But then I I've been auditioning for things in La for like pilot seasons but sending tapes in and I would get very close on things and sending in like multiple tapes from the same parts but like it would always go to somebody La 'cause it's impossible to like viably make a a television or film career from Chicago. Yes. By sending in tapes and working at second city, I couldn't fly out whenever I wanted to I. I. Didn't really have an understudy. So it was it's really it's still really hard to. I mean if. If you live in Chicago, and you get a job in La, you move to la I mean unless you just want to do that one job and the only people that don't live in L. A., who work in this business either. You know haven't really gotten started or are so established they can live wherever they want as wherever they want. Yeah. Yeah. Because I know I would just. The it was it just it doesn't doesn't work that way. You know I mean unless you got some kind of Gig in Chicago you know like like for your there's a guy a guy named David Pesky that people. Have, I was going to bring you ask with he's an amazingly talented. Comedian actor and he's been in some stuff. He's currently doing easing Amy Sedaris. This show is the the night guy. He was on veep as yeah. All right. Right. So he does husband. Yeah and he. He, you know everybody you know like he was gonna be the guy like the white when I was a freshman in Improv know yeah. He stayed in Chicago because he C-. He made a nice living doing voiceovers. He did he had like McDonald's account for a million years so he was like the one. Anomaly of the look if you WanNa make a like if you want to make. More than four or five hundred dollars a week. You gotta you gotta get out of Chicago. Year Yep. So see you come out here. And I came out here. Yeah. I gotten. Representation because of my. Times I'd go on to audition for SNL so like my. that. Puts your name on a radar. So I moved out here with representation and I had. One of my visits I had met with. Jones who's a big casting director out in La Nancy come to see my show in Chicago Oh. Wow and so she was like wh- when I got here she was like I'm going to get you working you know. and. I was like Oh that's great. Me On. Her. If you'd like. Yeah. She got arrested development and the office, and then from there like I kinda, and then as also through Allison Jones that she casts veep. So I went in, had her trust going into the audition. Yeah, and then I got it from that. That's great. So you did you ever have to have a side job when you were out here. no. Mother fucker. Oh Yeah Yeah. Very Lucky I. put some money away from Chicago. and was like the live for a while and definitely it was. A frightening grind for a while there. 'cause you're like you mean jobs pay seven hundred dollars and the mets it. Yeah Yeah. My Rent is three times that Oh. Yeah. I I got I moved to La. To. Be in the movie cabin boy and that was like our and had a part in the movie, and here we go and it was like it was like a month of work you know but like like how you work two days a week then one day a week and all five days a week. And I was like, yeah that that cabin boy money is really going to. Be My nest egg. It's like. Nest Egg is tiny and then it was gone. I was actually when. I was looking for I was looking for jobs when when I got hired on Conan I was at. The. Day that Roberts Michael called me to hire me to tell me I. got the job on Conan I also had gotten a call from a movie theater that I had applied for like to be the assistant manager of and then calling you saying like we'd like you. Know come on back in I I. Don't know if I got the job, but it seemed like you know I got the job and I was so terrified issue that like I was going to be. Assistant manager at the theater when cabin boy opened. In the lobby and on the screen at the same. But I was able to say, no, I'm going to replace David Letterman or at least. Yeah. So yeah I was. Yeah it was. It was the same thing. I thought. Yeah. I'm in a movie and it's like. Yeah you're in a movie but. there. You know it's not like exactly. Yeah and coming back to Detroit after having been on the office of a few episodes. The assumption is as soon as you're on TV or in movies, you're a millionaire you know. Yeah. You know I I went to a bar and my friend was. A by me drink I, mean you're on TV Bra I am making ends meet. I was under means about like six hundred bucks maybe exactly exactly A. Counter residuals for a long time exactly and there's money taken off the top Job Rep. Representations stuff. Yeah. No, that's. If you if you Google Andy Richter net worth the number. Is. Hilarious. Klarius it there must be another Andy Richter that. Rich this. Can tell you. I know mine if I did the same thing I was like Oh this is a count i. don't know about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This guy's holding out on me I'm hoping to myself. With detroiters was tim already out here was Tim. Robinson. Already out here you guys were friends eat taught you and improper he. He here's my level, a teacher my. When I was. When I was eighteen, he was twenty one and as. One of the reasons why I was able to sneak into the bars we just like barrel in. Avenue like once you have a beer in your hand then yeah. kind of like the method was. kind of sneak in Berlin with like a two or three guys who are regulars and embarrassed when you get drinking, drink your hand then you make friends of the bouncer you know. Maybe he recognizes your face and the drinks you're good. Yeah. Tell the bartender another one like you obviously burst one. I'll have a second one of those ails please. Already here does he? Know. Tim was in New York he was working at SNL. Oh, that's right. That's right. He wrote there and he was on he was he was he was on camera his first year. Yeah. Featured player, and then went to the writing side wrote there for four years that was his choice or did they kinda say like? I. Think I think it was a it was it wasn't his choice the time, but I think it was really good for him. Yeah. Kazini he gets a kind of flourish is comedic voice without. The politics, of Roy, on SNL. The disappointments and like I it certainly, you're not able to show just like use your voice and Mike do your thing, right? Yeah. so At that time so he was writing at SNL and I was on veep. I was guessing on veep at that time and our friend Jason Today Kaz who we both met through second city in Chicago because he would come and do like shows we became friends he was working with. Tim SNL, and was like you guys should do a show together and so from him in Chica- him in New York a way pitched detroiters just as idea being that it was. The two of us were best friends such best friends. It's ridiculous and it's setting Detroit. That was like that was like our whole goals. This yeah you know. And so. We came to the idea of being at guys. Like later on into the First, we were going to be original. Originally, we're GONNA be two guys who were working in A. Parking lot attendant booth. Going live life out Mr and the world like this to idiots, and then like we come in like we do this job by then we got the idea of him being admen because we like to us. Feeling of home is like those commercials old Detroit Commercials For like everybody has their local commercials. Ross, those Detroit wins like we're just so important to us. What are we were the guys who made these? Yeah. Well. That's what I. That's what I love about show because I am eight like. A connoisseur of local advertising I fucking yet and like when they hop on on twitter on I just I cannot get enough of them and I remember like. Like my Dad's my dad is lives in southern. INDIANA. In there there is an Indianapolis a guy on that. So guns and used to get a gun store in Indianapolis and he was just fucking terrifying. His tag because he taught any would it'd be like Smith and Wesson pre fifty seven it's only nine dollars all this stuff and he'd get to the kind kinda look like Carl Perkins you can look like a rockabilly and old rockabilly guy and a his tagline at the end was. With prices this low you might think I'm crazy but I'm not crazy I just love to sell guns. With a lag tear. This on the Internet but it we fucking terrifying. Chicago you know there's auto dealers Celosias at Elson like just like the the green accents and stuff in fact when I watch when I watch baseball like I had the the thing on my keyboard and watch cubs games. I'm now on spectrum and they don't show the local ads and it's like from that was like sixty percent of the fun of watching the cubs games getting you know getting to see them. Ads. Yeah Oh, man big money at menards yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. No I mean that's like and it's such a it's such a like the thing I love about things about advertising and you do it's like it's Kinda creative. Yes it's a creative endeavour but like not really. Yeah. And it could just be inherently so funny. Yeah exactly. Like with it, there was a parallel to sketch writing. You know. That we so we didn't have to make ourselves like comedians or like Scott. Autobiographical and to a degree of course, turned up to whatever didn't have to be that we were writing comedy we're writing commercials. You're dealing with the clients versus dealing with guest. Guess that week. It's refresh -able it just like every week. Yeah Yeah No Yeah, yeah yeah and did that. Did, did detroiters like did they end it or did you guys just kind of you got busy doing other stuff sort of? Band. Yeah They ended it and which is it like was it not doing well or I mean they they? They said it wasn't doing well, and it's a a certainly bone of contention that I have still probably the more I talk by the more I'm GonNa make sure that it doesn't come back Mike as screwed it but yeah. They were definitely like. they changed our. Our premier from our the show premiered in January A and its original season. One premiered in January. We film season two and they pushed our premier from that next January to. June. and we're like, and they're they're like we're into this but we're going to put so much money behind advertising. That's GonNa make your head spin rolling. Okay and even on the phone I was like well, no, it's this is so bad for a show you shouldn't do this. Yeah. Yeah. here comes June July a billboard to commercial. Yeah. Yeah. Our numbers were like half of what they were by the end of the. First season and we. But the thing is nobody knew the show was back you know no one knew. Got Cancelled when he didn't come back in January and then had heard nothing about it. For a second season, we rebuilt our audience. Yeah. By the fourth episode back to where we were by the end of the tenth of season one they were like, well, which is where we wish we could do better. I'm like you guys made every decision. Hurt him listen I. I've been there I've been there. One of the one of the one of the. Arguments Eric's uses they told us was like, well, we don't want it to compete with sports was as. We figure it should be on in the summer because there's not sports in the summer now like what are you talking about? I off like who is like? Deciding between what to watch and it's only watching live television Ryan saying well, I don't watch. Or this comedy show. Like binary like there's like the only other choice to watch you guys is a sporting event. Yeah that's you. Now it's just the bullshit that they tell you almost wish like just be honest. Tell me let's be honest. You just don't get or whatever, or you're trying to make room for something else or you're trying to. Fourteen year olds and you don't like in fourteen year olds aren't into it. Just Y- eggs like whatever that may be. You know you win the politics of that work. It's like you get a new executive and the whatever the things were existed. They're they're looking to hack and slash so they can be at the helm of a new hit show YEP YEP so yeah. So they're gonNA try and make room so they can start a brand new show is hit by guess what I brought this new show in you bet show does well, it doesn't matter to them because. Pro I. before I have I was a victim of that a couple of times and I always refer to it as you know how in the wild when there's a new Alpha male and he kills the offspring of the previous Alpha male. Thing like there's no points there's no point in having a a hit show that somebody else said, yes to I like what does how does that? How does that help my ego and it's yes the dumbest thing in the world you know but you know It's yes he can be the dumbest place. Really can yeah but it was so happy we got to at least make those two seasons the show such a funny show, and am Fan really a nice chance to you know. You know a lot of people get that opportunity to make a show at their friend and they don't get as much chance to make it as much. Their own as you guys got to. You know what I mean. It seems fairly uncompromised in terms of. I'm guessing. It really. It really was like the CA- compromises we made were very minimal. You know and like when when we fight insisting like some things on the tone they would they would back off pretty well which which I appreciate it 'cause like. One of the things that's great about the show that we love about the show is to that to those guys are like on each other's teams. No matter what you know. Yeah. I know it was like they should be more fighting with each other. It's not what this? I've never liked I never liked that like people like shows I just like I. Liked to watch people get along and then and then as a team like the conflict comes with them in the world I don't exactly I get. So tired of movies where everybody's always trash-talking each other it's like fucking shut up just yeah. What's next? What happens next? Yeah. Yeah. Right. Why would you ever all the time hanging out with this person and your enemies True Yeah I get like br like like loving like like little jabs here and there yes but. But the reality of you friends are who you get along with the most. Yeah and I think that they just they have these prescribed things that like, yeah. Everybody's gotTa be you know there's got to be too jokes page on those pages? Are you know most of those jobs are put balance and like? No? No, that's there. Again, that's it gets back to my that's boring. That exists everywhere. Why are you doing? Exactly? And Mike System is king everything has to be cynical recipe depressed and sad. The comedy and I'm like. Well. Okay. That's that real as well. People are but like, it's not the only thing that exists you can't snuff out joyful laughter. Yeah. Yeah. I mean the show obviously you you're. Now you're got a bunch of movie stuff coming out like, are there things that you know? podcast might as well plug some stuff. Yeah. Let's let's put a route i. that's movie that films last year that I'm not sure when it comes out now because all. Everything, but it's called the tomorrow war Big Action Sci fi movie show. With Chris Pratt ow as really fun and I. Got An action movie. So really excited for that. Yeah. I'd never got one of those really and I've always kind of like just wanted to be one of those big juggernauts of special effects and Shit Yeah Yeah. It was really like my dream. Like one hundred and fifty million dollar budget movie. I'm beside myself. I'm really excited that to come out ed in the movie called Super Intelligence that most McCarthy James Corden. COMES ON HBO? Max I think. I'm not sure when either I think September I. Think I saw I on a list of things I think is Suppo-? Great Yeah. Yeah. Amber said something yeah. I'm not exactly sure but that sounds right because I know yeah I think that's right. Well. That's good. I mean you know you're getting into you're getting to kind of live that life now is is it? Is it hard? To you because the movie life can really be. It can be consuming in all like you kind of you get a Gig and then you're just gone it's like working on joy rig. I mean yeah. Is that okay? I mean it seems like. You know it seems like a ungrateful to complain about it but it is like you do have a you know it's like being movies is fun and making movies is great but it's hard to keep a regular life going in that way. Yes. Yeah. Like like. I last year I was. Home maybe. Two months you know the rest of the time I was like either at Atlanta or upstate New York is which is great. I. Love it very lashing. Yeah but. But you know but humans we need to nest you have to like we want to be at home to some degree and it And it feels so brady to be like, Oh, I wanna be home, but you everybody wants to be home no matter what you're doing and you know. And Most you know. If you're. I would say most people the key to their happiness is through relationships and you for relationships you need consistency and it's bopping all over the place from hotel room to hotel room that consistency is hard to find. Yes. I think for myself part of I I I am able to handle it partially because of my upbringing my growing up was like here there get between Ghana between. Detroit. My Mom was gone or my dad was gone. So I that it doesn't like I I'm certainly not broken by it, but in early does drain you know by the My battery capacity a little bit bigger than most but even then it still. Gives the pleaded yeah yeah. Are you doing anything right now I mean is there anything that you can do I'm doing a lot of vo for Ami that shows Yay yet that from home or do you go to student like stare studios mostly home but like now it's been sterilized studios. Yeah. It's nice to get to to get out I've been. Yeah. I've been to a couple a couple of because I do animated voices two and I got one we where it's like they made a you know they're like we we thoroughly sterilized studio. If you want, you can do it from home and I'm just like get me out of the House I don't care. I'm going to have. Yeah fucking. Coat the place in covert I'll be fine I'll just aware mass we're just let me come somewhere. Yeah, that'd be looking another person is. Well now I mean. You know. Thank you get these things are going well and stuff I mean what? What what is was like to. Throughout my thing I'm at least like you know now I'm Kinda you know older and kind of the. On the downside. A. I. Always, I always felt like I wanted to trade it up. You know like kind of take the take the good good fortune that I had and kind of see how it can just take another step up whatever and I don't mean ladder like in terms of like money and fame I mean like just in my own development and what do you see is the next step for you that like where you WanNa go. Well I mean I like truly I want to have like a viable and like a real. Movie career legs? AND LIKE BE A. Like the art, the generation of movie. COMEDIANS. is like fewer and fewer because I feel like maybe maybe comedy movies aren't being made as much as they aren't and when they are always like, hey, how about you see John Cena as this weekend like well. And all those things. But what about the people who've worked at comedy their whole lives you know like like the door close at Steve Carell you know well and also. Even within the people that they hire in comedy, it's the same as the night able over and over because because it's such a, it's such a there's so much money involved. It's such a long shot if there's not a superhero in it, the people that give you money, it's like I gotta be able to bank on somebody and I can't bank on. I can't bank on somebody that was a that is like Oh yeah. Did a pilot and was really funny and his great but I mean nobody knows who they are. They need to hear. Jona Hill Hill here. Yeah. To hear Seth Rogan and and it's like you know I know why it happens but I think that it does it stagnates you know yeah. Yeah, you know. So I hope to make that like ten ten names. Yeah. Yes. And then I'll shut the door behind myself and make sure. The robot as they. Up. By sorry jumps. Is. is movies where sort of where your focus now or I mean, would you care about having a TV show of your own? I. I Love Television at. Hopefully one thing is come back. I'll be able to work on some stuff and I'm trying to create my own another show for myself. So we'll see if that. Pans out if the world. Can Support. Broken so he leave the house to make it. Yeah. Yeah. Without Ah Yeah I yeah I. Think it's an especially now like it's a I honestly feel like. Td has more sort of. Diversity of opportunity than movies do I. Think Movies are. You know like I said. And mean I people love him. But like superhero movies have really narrowed movies get made because they gotta be these Special Effects Extravaganzas or there's some tiny indie that gets vod release and that's it. So. You know. Good luck. I guess you know whatever The of the three these are three questions and the third one what have you learned and Do you think like there's I mean that takes the form of advice that takes the form of like. Oh Shit I I. Wish I had no nist before I started this path What he? What's your answer to that one? I I make maybe philosophy in life. I've kind of like a learned over time. That people take. Kindness for weakness. But that itself is a weakness. You know like 'cause like I think myself like I'm very affable in very nice in a you know I have patience to a great deal but I certainly in my life I. There's frustration when people just like you can see when somebody makes the decision to like Oh this jump and I'm like buddy. Yeah, I'm not nice because I have to be nice. I'm nice choosing to be, yeah. But that helps me now see. What people are you know I? I think my niceness is not a trap, but it works as a trap sometimes. I can then because I'm nice that can be mean also. Yeah. It makes people and reveal it draws out the people that are willing to take advantage of unit reveals their character exactly like I think the feeling of any nice persons all your back in that country rube kind of like. Oh pollyanna dumb dumb. Well, it's no I'm just I just have patients I have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I to patients. So I think in my life like also like the anger of somebody being. Rude or dismissive or you know kind of making suctions on my nicest. We're trying to take advantage I that has I've stopped letting that. Make Me Mad i-instead than just calculate and I then go. Okay. Well Yeah Person Right Right. You're not gonNA talk to you anymore whatever yeah. You know pushing this category you're using me and I am implant a game and survivor here. Put you off the island. That's survivor. Where you're in hotel rooms what else are you going to? Yeah. Yeah. No I I. You know throughout my career started to realize that there. One thing that was working against me just in terms of like. My time and and the way people. Chose to take advantage of my time was the thought of Oh he won't mind Andy won't. You know he's laid back about stuff and you and so then there are people like. You know they get they. They put a priority on all the. All the squeaky wheels because If you'RE A well oiled wheel, they just forget about just. So sometimes I get about you. Yeah I. Learning to say, no to things was like a huge step for me an an and it doesn't mean you. Yeah. Don't be a Dick but there are definitely times when. I learned that saying no, it's almost better for everybody like they know like, Yep it they don't like don't ask him that Kinda Shit again, like don't. Yep He's not going to do that and and and I'll see you can sometimes when you say no to something, you make the people like Oh you're right I probably shouldn't have even asked you that. Yep just because it's yeah. But that takes time to you start out. So eager and so willing. Yes. So willing to. Just to be there. At a certain point you gotTA stop. You know it's like I. Always I. always you know as you know doing press for things is the part you never thought about like you thought you wouldn't it be fun to be a comedian wouldn't it be? And then you realize like. Such a huge part of that job is advertising and the advertising. It is saying the same thing fifty fucking times. I L Like I just always have have felt like. I forgot my point 'cause I but. It's like it's like you can't train for that. And you know and so and you. Know, and so that's kind of where the starting to say no stuff. Takes. Slides in because you're like, okay enough's enough like exactly. Yeah, and his. As people get big, they don't do that shit anymore like you. Can Robert Deniro on a junk it Out For a full junket. Yeah. You never see. Tom Hanks I'm well, actually Tom. Hanks is actually probably an exception because he's an ice like a modern you. So, yeah it's but yeah, that's great. It is true. It's like kindness to a point. To a point you know and I it's the second half of that is the phrase I always use is no, you're worth you know. What catch phrases know your words? And it's up to you to decide what to do with that knowledge but anybody is going to come at it with their own. You know agenda. Yeah. So a favor here favored they're great babe I'm leaving you disfavor no this favor is worth this much and that's not to say that that it's like you had to do this view now you owe me is just that hey, I'm doing this. I'm not doing this because I have to know. I'm doing it because I want to share this with you. Yes. Yes and also all your worth is not just about. The you know the the. About people undervaluing you it's about people overvaluing you to yet. Sometimes, you have to tell yourself. You. Know you get you get high on your own supply a little bit and you're like me you know who am I am Nice I can. You know exactly. Yeah exactly. So. It's the middle. It's his mid western thing it's like. Not, too much a one or the other just kinda right there in the middle as we usually what? Yep. We'll SAM. This has been a real delight and I appreciate you taking your time and. I hope To See on campus one of these days phase. So hope so I am so. Great. Thanks for having Oh I'm so happy and I mean and they really you're such a i. mean you just represent so much A. Goodness, and what's right in show business in the world that I'm just it's it's nice to see. You enjoying it and it's nice to see that the world enjoying you. So you know. Anyway, they're welcome. You're welcome. And thank you all out there for listening to another episode of the three questions we're going to be back next week. With somebody, not as good as SAM, but I mean, what can you do? Yeah I can't book winners all the time. All right. Thanks very much. Off. The three questions with Andy. Richter. A team COCO annual production. 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"If. You've ever stopped at a railway crossing and the signals are flashing and you don't see the train order appears to be moving slow and you're thinking that maybe you could get across the tracks before the train comes. Think about this. Even, if the engineer sees you and applies the emergency brakes away, it can take a train over a mile to stop over one mile to stop. By that time, it's too late and the resulting crash will be deadly stop trains can't. Hi It's me Andy Richter like scams me too. That's why I'm dropping into. Tell you about the latest show to join the team Coco Network. It's called scam goddess. It's hosted by the very funny Lacy Moseley each week she sits down with a guest to dish about this scantiest scammers in history conman fake heiresses, creepy guys who teach your credit card. The show is hilarious and strangely educational. So here's a taste to scan dot US featuring lacey and the fantastic Nicole buyer digging into the story of Career Conman Jeremy Wilson, that's a lot of names I. Hope you can keep them straight and I. Hope you like it. This is Jeremy Wilson Story Aka thin naked a Angus Wilson. Okay. Yes. which is a ball do by changing the first name and not the last name because everybody knows Shrek people by their last name right and also like if you've got to respond to a name that you have to remember that name. So you've gotTA constantly be like I'm I'm Jeremy. Angus also angus is a nasty ass name. Cute I would. Trust anger. Well. The story is Finn and Angela in time. So they meet for the first time on. Okay. Cupid they meet up and they have their first date at steak 'n shake. Okay which is fast food. Yes. Yes. But she's nineteen. Okay. That makes. No money gallow sense could absolutely not. But so they go to steak and shake and they talk he has an Irish accent is that You have you ever dated the Guy Who Irish accent I've fucked guys with Irish actor. I can't do it is not like a pirate. PUSSIES good again pussy tastes so good. He's like. corned beef and cabbage. Very Bad Irish accent and we I. Think we sound like the pirate from Spongebob. By. That's literally what I think. We as an Irish accent and the date lasted sixteen hours. Home Lord. That's how you know. You Ain't got nowhere to be they now where you don't have a job, I, don't. Know, you don't have to go back to school. Could a man talk for sixteen APPs lutely. That's very true. That is absolutely foolproof with no pauses. Or Breaks I. Hope at least you got another steak 'n shake meal. He went back to the. Hours you give me dinner and breakfast. Yeah. Come on. Now we need meals between. So then she says, we had sex of course you'll. Take you to a damn steak. Sixteen hours. Yes. You have to fuck. Yes. Sixteen hours. At least get something. You know what I mean. You had a steak and shake, and then he got a little he gave you his stake. She said it was her first time doing bedia SEM. Really. Jump The gun on this one. Was Sixteen hours because he tied up in left perhaps. I mean, why? Not I get a little kinky the sex was spectacular. That's what she says. She says sex was spectacular Okay right. So at the time, Finn was couch surfing staying with a friend who offered him more than just a place to sleep. So also doing beady SMS somebody else how I would be so upset if someone tied me up, it was like fuck on this couch. I Oh, this is a little bit more private like I'm very vulnerable. You can't be fucking broke. Ask Chris. All reason that we was getting our ass be by Christian gray was because he had yet and the. Money, I'm be all your boat. Put all your couch. Do not time up on the couch. Do not spank me on your couch. I need at least a door right now out door also like a roommate come home at anytime your couch surfing the audacity. Had someone who was staying with me and I came home and they they had a woman tied up on the couch and they were like, Oh, we're gonNA fuck is that okay it'd be like you can get the fuck out of my house. That's where you could fuck off. So, when Finn applied for a new drivers license, he used his hosts social security number and birth certificate, the one that he staying with on the couch. In return fin had agreed to supply the man with a Walter. Handgun So we live in America okay this is in America You Walmart and get a gun truly you can go anywhere. You can go to Dick Sporting goods and get a gun literally go to McDonald's and probably get a gut probably get a happy meal and instead of a toy, it's a gun right I hate that that's how it is. But like why would you say your dinner? Yes you literally said a gun a just a handgun is worth more than my person. I'd life. Those guys of idiot whoever this guy is. So this deal falls apart he steals the identity and doesn't even give the man the gun. Is Green. Seeking Revenge Fins Acquaintance Calls Angeles family to warn them about his identity and criminal history. So the homeboy calls the houses like, Hey, dot been tied up on my couch getting the aspect he unloaded. Now what is really his real true story? So he was scamming Angela I say his name was found he was like all right, fuck let me tell you the truth because I'm into This is real love that we have. Okay. My real name is Jeremy Keenan he was thirty five, not twenty four. So he told her. He was thirty five disgusting also like Bishops Eleven years you. Know Rank was he was. Yes. But also, I will say this as a kid in high school every movie that we saw. Last. Week with the highest air by beard connect and the dated and I was Marilyn. How come marijuana has whiskers Beer. Bar Chen local. Fuck is. Our people where the fuck with ledger ain't nobody had long hair jaw line no no. Out of Zits. Lot. Of badly dressed little skinny scrawny do right. So I understand why she might have thought that this thirty five year old was twenty four because when I was in high school, you know I got to he had gone to mit he told her he went to mit. He'd been in prison, but he'd walked away from a work release program and he walked away. So he escaped from jail. What do you mean you walked away from a work release? They said all right. You can go work he said. Sound like he will release way I even catch that you said like that will sound like he was released. No I think. Like I'm keep going. and. Then the guards were like, Oh, well, he taboo king. said, it was a work release program. You say, you know what? Take the relief I'm just GonNa go but I don't take the work of my mind. Details. 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Andy richter here with another episode of the three questions and david jacoby on today. the multi multi-talented. It's embarrassing. How many things you do. Embarrassing to me i is it. I didn't do music. You do poetry you write novels And then you act in things to which is like wants you to acting. Why do you do all that work. You found you found kush gig. Well that's absolutely right. Yeah you know acting is. It's nice to have your words written for you but as as you know Those their long days onset that you start to feel like existential dread of what the hell am i doing. Yeah waiting around trying to get these. July's right all day. So there's something about writing novels or making music. That's that's a little. Have a little more agency i guess. Yeah yeah. that's what i was going to ask. If it's a control thing because people you know controls like a negative word. But it's i mean not to me. On a you know a agency it just your. It's a semantic game then because control like that's i mean we all want to. I don't know we're all like scared. Animals you know in this big crazy world and we wanna be able to feel like we got some handle on it. So yeah. I mean i understand and espec- on movies on tv shows you know they are inherently necessarily collaborative. But that can also leave. You feeling like You know a ship's crew member on the deck heading to a horizon and you don't know what the fuck is going on you know you're lucky if you're on the deck. Yeah yeah well. yeah. I think you know. Think about your performance while you have lines written mostly and You know somebody's gonna light you. Somebody's gonna shoot you. Somebody's cut you. So there's all these factors that go into your quote unquote performance as an act. That that that are really not in your control at all. Yeah yeah so yeah and Yeah and it's so. I'm always amazed to like how really you know like You are your job is just to kind of find disquiet place where you can focus on saying this shit right now and while you're doing it sort of in the middle of a of a traffic jam russian zone. Yeah yeah now i you. You grew up in new york city and and you were enemy and i want to get back to that too but but this does prompt a question that i was curious about. You went to school for English literature you were in pursuit of a phd wasn't abuse literature. Yeah how does acting happen. Along that way i mean. Is it something that you were really wanted to do. Or was it just kind of like it. Just i never looked good gig. Yeah i'd never thought about it really i had. I never grown up knowing an actor. I mean the the closest. I've ever came to an actor. Was i knew some guy whose dad was the on the brick stone commercials. That was remember those. It's it's eastern thing. But i i mean from living in new york i know briggstone but yeah i do when i was a kid. So so that was it. I mean it wasn't like if i was watching gilligan's island which was show. I watch is a kid. I i didn't even relate to those people as actors. I just i just related to them as gilligan and whatever endure and marianne what is what is gilligan wear when he's not being killing it as you take that hat off the food. I don't know. I had no no thoughts about that but i was. I wanna to be writer. And i thought if i was a professor of i was teaching than i would be able to have three or four months of the year off in which i would ride and it seemed like that was the that that looks like the structure of my life in and gives your mom a teacher. My mom was a teacher for many many years. Yeah so in new york city and my sister's a teacher right now so You know the as a writer. I just began to feel very isolated and lonely kind of the things i like about an when i was twenty one i hated about it. Yeah so i thought. How can i write and not be so alone. And then We'll place a right plays and then you know they're actors will have to come into direct. We'll do our coming. Entertain me and keep you from being so sad. They might words. Yeah and then. I thought well. If i'm gonna if i'm gonna ride plays i should probably know something about acting so i was at yale at the time and they have so many productions going at all times of little that they're they best looking for bodies you know they don't have enough in the in the acting school there to to cast everything they're doing so i started hanging out over the drama school actually taking like play writing courses and met the actors and they said hey we need a body here we need a body there and i just started to act that way on the you know here i am. You sat news like you sat in on the act in classes. sit on acting classes. I sat on play writing classes. I don't think it's very weird because if if if you were like my program was the english literature was i was getting a phd in that. Yeah you if you said. Hey i like books to. You couldn't just come in and sit at our class somehow. They they let me that wild salmon. I'd sit there. And god kinda had open our policy which was cool for me but no now with the it now the acting i didn't i didn't study any acting there. Yeah so did you. Did you have a technique. What or did you just wing it. Fake it i i i i i waited and faked it. Which is what. I eventually get back to. You know after all the technique then you get back to absolutely lately so at first. But then when i started to take it seriously or started at work i got into some classes in. New york says actually commuting between new haven and new york. I had like this double life for. I was a a phd candidate. An ta teaching sister. And then i'd i'd ride my bike to the train station. Get it on the train taken to. I'd like to class and We were learning strasbourg technique. And then i then. I took a different class. Which would their techniques. I've i've kind of worked around in both major. You know acting techniques of this country's of the twenty century anyway and yeah. Yeah you know for me. It's like you know it's whatever works on the day you know we're we're fluid being's right so he show bonds set and your traffic in your ship mood. Well now. you've got to figure this out so you can either use that. What's happening today. Or if that's not working you gotta search back in your technique and try to make it happen and then worse goes to worse you just fucking fake like yeah. Yeah yeah. Yeah because that's iowa's when i don't know what to you know the the most i can ever get a about sort of acting technique that i understand by the way. Sorry about the dog. I never probably dog okay. That's i create a she. She gets she gets worked up because people walk in front of the house. She's got to go to the back yard and barth house. Yeah yeah I you know 'cause my whole career has been. Oh shit they're gonna give you this opportunity. It would be rude of me to act. As if i don't know what i'm doing because everybody else here is treating me as if i know what i'm doing so just to be polite. I'm going to say you're right. I do know what i'm doing. And then i'm just gonna fuck in hope that somebody likes it when a director says okay we got it a and then they frequently will is. There's i mean unless it's really something that i enjoy. They'll say you want to do anything and usually it's no. It's you know. I wanna go home. That's what i wanna do. So it's funny that you describe it that way because i would. I would describe like the technique of your technique and conan and the show as let me try to get this right off while you were saying as acting like you don't know what you're doing. Yeah that's like the fundamental hewer of the show was. We are so bad at this to be swab. That's what we were going for. What i made such that. You put your your at Because clearly you were preparing clearly. You didn't know what you're doing but the the style which i always loved which was funny was just got here. What am i supposed to do. Yeah well my philosophy with that show and it built over time. I mean first of all i took an i mean and i did a done a lot of press lately about what that will mean so. I've been talking about it lately. Which i don't know. How often do you really well. How far would you have to live up you to your own asked to think. What have i meant to the comedy community unless somebody asks me so i have been thinking about it lately and and i didn't you know what i i got the job. We just doing it because it was a comedy job. It was this kind of show. And we gotta fill up this amount of time. And i haven't done it before but we'll figure something out but To me what that show ended up being was as a it had to be about every single one was kind of like a documentary about these two guys. That did this for an hour a day and the key to a to me was always people have experienced this hour in the same way that we're experiencing this hour so it was always important me to be myself and to react to things in as much of an honest whereas i could. I mean it is show business and i do you know like i say it's a version of me but when it's like me when companies over like me on my best behavior 'cause i mean if it was just me there would have been plenty interviews right in say a fucking thing and did a crossword on my phone or something. Well how did you say you know. And i know that's not what we're supposed to be talking about here. And that's that's fine because i'd rather talk about you but i i read argo. This is why. I saw at your podcast. As a matter of fact. I don't listen to podcasts. So so i read this article I think it must have been in the times new york times and and i thought you were really sincere and thoughtful and i liked what you're saying i read it yet. Podcast and i thought. Oh i'd like to do podcast. And i'll great putting pressure on you to be sincere and thoughtful. What and why was predisposed to want to do it as well was. Because i had always enjoyed your persona not only is viewer but also as a participant in in the show and and i you always had a real there was always a real generosity to what you were doing. And i and kindheartedness wasn't like it wasn't faked at all thank you If it was fated all it was fate well you know. And and and i thought your timing was always great and you always just made me laugh so much so i was like oh i read. Oh this is what this guy's really been thinking about it so that's interesting bike. He's tanks kind of a little. He's a little tortured there. that's cool. Well i mean you know it's a weird. It was a weird job. It was a job for two. Which i was very suited in many ways and i kind of described that in the article and it like kinda from an early age was in charge of morale and was kind of there to react to whatever happened so i kinda was bred to do this kind of job. It does get to be getting you get tired of being. I say a lot. And i've said this. Numerous times to show biz wives. I understand like. I understand what it is to be a show biz wife. 'cause i was kind of his tv wife. So i understand like this is great. This is wonderful. We have a great job. But sometimes i get annoyed that people don't pay attention to me or you know or kind of look at me as an accessory to somebody else. Here's a buried for to hear. You say that because there were moments when i'd be on a show and this is a while ago i can't remember last time i did it And it's okay that you guys didn't invite me back for the big goodbye female. I have nothing to do with them. We had some classic beds. Someday i'll tell you about all the people that were truly hurt. If you're if you're truly can ed. I'm okay with it because there were some people. Yeah there are some stories about who got more. Were times when i felt my attention wandering to you more than i felt was is okay and i felt i felt like oh i feel like there's a little i can't increase the tension here. I've got to take my eyes off. Andy right now. Yeah and get back over here. It was well. yeah. I mean it's not. There's not like a lot of tension between me and conan pro. You know. I mean honestly and as time has gone on the pressure has gotten less and less. Because we've understood we've understood like it we volume business. Everyone doesn't matter that much an unto itself except for if everybody had fun and that was kind of we got to that. It took a long time to get to that But i i would. I would make me nervous the one that would make me. The most nervous was jane lynch whom i've known since about nineteen eighty eight and we actually were in sch- show we were in married in. We did a show called the real live brady bunch and she and i work caroline mike and She used to do this thing on the show. I mean she's still kind of did it. Even towards the end where she'd be on the show conan would ask her a question and she turned to me an answer. And i always sitting there feeling like turn. No look cam look at him. he's the one you should be looking at I of all. I'd like to to think about bits to do when i would do. And and one of the bits. I did on cohn it had really terrible repercussions for me in my life. Oh vancouver thing Yeah well well now. It was so silly though because they were very softbank you you came on the show. When he was doing it was used was he week shows and vancouver was at. I was just There were rumors at the time that that the show is moving from vancouver. La oh yeah. I just got married. And i was a was one of those people pushing for that. Because i don't think. I don't think i'm on. I was on the show when this happened. We weren't what year was this Ninety probably ninety eight. I didn't know that dan i was there. Yeah i remember of it that way. I mean i remember. Well i mean this whole last month has been weird to see hours of tape. That i don't have any recollection. But i specifically remember you telling vancouver jokes and they're being a backlash but i don't have a memory of it happening. Were really great gag. Because it was conan Is gonna ask me. Why do you wanna to move the show at i. Say well and you know. Say something. negative about I said something about a better rain a lot. And then the guy's idea which was great. And i love it was gonna cut to the audience. They're going to see a bear amount and hockey. Are you laughing now. Yeah yeah great gag. Yeah and then But unfortunately the next day it was reported in the vancouver papers. At almost as if i'd held a press conference and said who can live in vancouver it rains too much and i went on a pr defensive. Wow for months and couldn't couldn't set it straight than i actually. Here's the true that i love vancouver and actually like a lot of rain myself temporarily but there was no going back there was no there was no taking it back. People are so touchy about that kind of i mean and it's like it's also it's the softest the weather mostly shade thing that you can make fun of that town about. You know what it was is that we were you know. I think we were felt protective of us. We and we get. I think they're i think they were hurt or in some way hurt that we were leaving and that it just came up this way and get it all you and i i. I love them to island place to i understand. And and it just this weird form One time. I remember i wanted to come on and i said to the producer. I can't remember who was. I said i wanna bring a guitar and and then Just on with me. And i didn't play guitar time. I said i wanna bring a car and then conan would logically asked me about vegetarian. I would say. Don't ask me about guitar. I told you and they didn't go for it. And i was always. I was always upset. Like i sent us. That's so fucking funny. We let me just do it. Yeah don't ask me about the qatar. I told you went over. I'll tell you why they said no is because it's like a and i'm not a big theater student but it's Isn't there like the checkoffs gun that are like if you bring out a gun. Somebody's got to use it. It's not as the companies guitar. Somebody's got to play that fucking thing if you've been enjoying behind the desk. I'm sure you'll love three questions. With my friend. Andy richter and his podcast and he gets to know his fellow comedians by asking each guest. Three easy questions. Where do you come from where you're going. And what have you learned. Recent episodes have featured gas like saas years. Amata jason man's zukas and why it's neck three questions with andy richter. Listen wherever you get your podcasts. Tell my loves it grow. Well when did you find yourself when you started taking those acting classes. Did you find yourself kind of energized by by the challenge of the technique and and took over where writing had been your drive less writing and more like sports Because i i had been lavas abdin like pretty intellectual i. I've been doing well in school. And i was moving on that way and those in learn and things like that but and really exercise my emotional being in the same way or might performance being. Since i played sports that was at loved i loved the game. I loved the depression every game. So it kinda Related to like that site. Oh this is like having a ball in my hands again in. Yeah and. I think it's like that i get the nerves i get. I get excited to play and Aside from that it was accessing emotions. That was never anything. I was like lauded for doing david. Be more emotional. Let's not that that wasn't what they were saying. It princeton. yeah. Yeah so for me. It was really a place where i could sure explore emotionally which is new which wasn't something necessarily part of my education for i really. I was like oh. My god i can. I can have all these emotions and being these ways. And and i don't want to go to jail. Wow yeah yeah i don't. I'm not bringing it when he's hard. Nobody's killing themselves. Because i'm being such an asshole. Yeah yeah okay. I i enjoyed that. In yeah that exploration and then of course humor was something to like. Oh i can make people laugh. I like doing. Yeah and you don't there there. Isn't you know especially in english literature. And i mean i don't know what gail is like. There's not a lot of concern about where the laughs are in those programs. You know what i mean. It's like 'cause. I don't know you know like people. People do have certain misconceptions about that. Because i just talking about my daughter's studying english right now doing and we were talking about how funny kafka's i know that really silly thing to say. Yeah yeah if you don't approach it as this kind of hallo piece of literature you know on mount everest of literature it's confronting so is back at joyce there's a shakespeare and then we're going. Well you're laughing. Yeah the guy pinter. Like i find pinter like all those long stretches of just silence silence and meaningless. Drivel is just hilarious. And you're right. You know like waking up as cockroach is pretty funny funny you know. I mean like oh shit. I'm a cockroach now. Yeah yeah yeah. Yeah yeah i started. I started in college. And i took a lot of english classes and it didn't seem that fun and when i remember we'll also too when you're like a freshman and sophomore in college and you're think you're going to write something and it's going to be important and it's always so dreary you know and so you know it's like when i went when i transferred to film school. It's a cliche that everybody's first film that's not just an exercise is about suicide. Like all these. It's just a film. Yes if you go if you go watch the first crop of everybody's doing a short film that they all are just you know that they all decided It's their thing it's deal go through. If there's there's six of them were about suicide somebody killing themselves. I mean that's the way it was. I dunno now now. It's probably about superheroes you now but But yeah it's i i never found. I did write one. I tried to write one funny story. And i felt it was. It was like well. This is really funny okay. Let's move onto jeremy's that was. It didn't really seem like there was anything certa substantive to it which you know i i mean i don't really care one way or the other i mean i do think comedy is the most perishable of entertainments really. Yeah i do. I think that things that were funny. Thirty years ago stylistically. Yeah yeah i mean just no just basic funny things that were funny. Thirty years ago just embroiled survey the last couple of years. Get but some stuff you know it just. It doesn't age well. i couldn't disagree more. I agree that that that that yes styles change in that in certain subject matters are going to become highlighted culturally. Become either more or less money over time. But i think i think that that to make people laugh you know to make people laugh in the most fundamental way is is not attached to the style of the day or the news of the day really. It's it's more of a you know to me. It's just a big joke that we're we're here on this planet and we have to die. You know we we know it and we know it so so comedy to me is the highest. You know obviously within drama. My heart goes to the things that are mixed. Yeah but to me like the most evolved response to many situations is to try to see what's funny in. Yeah yeah. And you know like vancouver. Try and find out what's funny about maneuver and then you find a quickly. What's not funny. What's not which is almost what is yeah. Yeah now you are a are. Do you live in new york city still or no no. My son graduated from high school last month. Uh-huh and that was that was. That's pretty much it for me really. And are you here in california or 'cause you're a new york city bully your baby. Yeah on downtown. Is that correct. I grew up on reciting as you call up like eighteen to third nine eleventh inside kim Grips yet and those. Are you know those are pretty normal neighborhoods in terms of like manhattan at being a mix of people living there but also a lot of street action you know. Yeah my my neighborhood. When i was growing up. Was this odd mixture of ukrainian and puerto rican. Yeah yeah wander. Rohe's survey sir. Yeah yeah that was very chicago thing to there was a lot of that. Were overlapped ukrainian. There was one called ukrainian village that was ukrainian and but mexican every but it was all overlap and polish overlap with mexican. When i was when i was in chicago. You could run into people on milwaukee avenue that had lived in chicago for twenty years and didn't speak a word english because they didn't need to. They could just polish. You know so so my my neighborhood was oh it was completely just it was it was literally a melting pot. You know it was like the cliche of what. America likes to think of itself as what. What drill i mean are your folks from that neighborhood what to that's right. Yeah yeah My father born in brooklyn. So he worked in manhattan. And you know. I guess they've just decided to live there. I mean they had never really wanted to stay in america but she. She's ninety one. She's still trying to get out of here. But yes and my dad. Born in brooklyn mom born in scotland and they settled on lory side these picnic. Yeah it was a great place to grow up. There was a lot of lot of freedom you know you didn't. You weren't really aware of the horrible things that can happen. I mean you know there was the horrible thing that could happen. But it wasn't in everybody's minds that a child could get snatched off the street and disappear forever ryan right so i had a lot of liberty and a lot of autonomy in the city is great for that. Because you don't need a car you know you can just go wherever you need to go. Yeah did Did you ever sort of exercise that freedom to the point of being dangerous dangerous or getting into dangerous getting into dangerous situations I'm sure that i did you know i just. I'm sure that i didn't know it at the time. Also i i'm sure i pushed i pushed boundaries. But you know i just. I decided that kind of when you're young. Just don't think you know you just. You just weren't shit. Yeah yeah i mean. I never broke a big ticket. Laws you know right graffiti and shit like that but yeah I have a fifteen year old and a twenty year. Old and people have oss often. Asked me you know people with younger kids. Like how do you give them freedom when they start going out by themselves. What do you do and all this stuff. And i've always. I've always felt that any advice was tempered with the fact that like my kids just weren't built to be trouble seekers both were like my son is very kind of almost overly cautious in a way and my daughter as she got older has been that way too so i always just wonder like you know i. I think like you are who you are and your parents can either give you freedom or they can give right strict boundaries depending on what they think you need. I mean if they're doing it right. Some parents are just like sia have a good time. Yeah i mean as a parent you know you realize early on you. Now that you're you're your kids may be a mixture of you and your your spouse but they are their own thing you know and you know like that water is going to seek. It's own level in some way. And then all you can do is just just yell warnings from the side of watch out for that did you ever When you were younger like did you ever cub it. A more sort of suburban lives in rural. never never. Because i just didn't know it. I mean yeah the brady bunch. I did covet. That i was like man. That's a nice house that that california looks fun. You know but those. That's the like the specificity of my thinking was like that kind of numskull again. That's what california's There there is a. There's a housing project near where i grew up in town. Peter cooper you know those are yeah. They're served like a bunch of high rises. That look like there's fifty of them and they're all saying yeah. Yeah and they were billed as kind of affordable housing. I think for veterans of bloomer. Too so they they were. They were built on the late for his fifties but they had little parks and they had little and it was like the self contained like suburbia. Remember wishing from time to time. That i lived in peter cooper because it just seemed like like it was a real neighborhood like like bike. Oh my park. I have my own part again. And there's green grass tree. Yep so i did. That was if i ever coveted like suburbia. It was covering stops in town. Peter cooper yeah. That's sad that was your idea of ideal you know that was my idea of nature. Yeah yeah now. You're you're a big sports guy right. You're young was it all sports all the time. Yeah yeah pretty much. I want to be in the park. I go to peter guber. The baseball basketball tennis swimming. Yeah i just loved it. As i got older team sports more than like individuals sports but i i just yeah i loved it and you played in high school was that kind of played is gonna play on college and and that was really like my first heartbreak about like what am i gonna do because once i stopped playing like organized sports which was my second year college basketball s. one baseball. I like baseball. Teams yeah supplement. Both lan and real like redefinition for me. I felt i felt like a great failure. You know like. I hadn't done what i wanted to do. As heartbroken in end it was like well. What am i going to do the my life. I mean it wasn't like i thought i was going to be a pro and that was obvious enough but i thought at least for the next four years. I'm going to be doing these things. And yeah i mean. That's how i identified myself as a guy chasing a ball right right as as an athlete. You'll also read books. Yeah yeah yeah well. I mean how long that. How long did that period lasts where you feel that kind of well break of well. Yeah that's certa sense of failure that turns into readjustment. And then you kind of a. Certainly i remember this feeling like it's it's almost like that feeling liars so much like i guess. I'm not who. I thought i was very very. It's shitty feeling but it's very necessary one to to reinvent or or it's necessary to be honest like that with oneself in a way and also realize that that's not it's not actually a self definition that just something you were doing and were you cut from the team. Is that how it ended. I mean it's funny that you ask. Because i don't think i was. But here's here's the story. I'll try to quickly in the year. Two thousand which was one of your great gags. Yeah and i was very happy to have been involved in that because it always made me laugh. But in the year. Two thousand the lakers in the sacramento kings were locked in a big struggle for the western conference finals. And i and i went to a game. I think it was game. Six or seven. And i had known just briefly i knew the owners of the sacramento loose and as i was walking to my seat. I had great courtside seats walking. See it and i said hello to the loop brothers and coach correal who is legendary coach at princeton was now at that point in two thousand an assistant coach for the sacramento kings. I said i'd love to say how to coach correal after the game and they said sure as i went down i watched. The game was amazing game. I have to say that the rafts kind of handed it to the lakers. I mean it was a great game But i felt like the kings were the better team. That probably be run out of la. Like i was ankle. But i went to the after the game and i said oh man and i was really horrible. What happened fourth quarter there. I i understand i understand. Coast girl doesn't want to see me. They said no. We told him we were hearing what he wants to talk to you. If you went over there. And i wait in that tunnel. You know that jan. Yeah the great tunnel where those light out there starting and weird feeling of waiting for someone after a show. Yeah standing around with your thumb up your espionage. Yeah and i see backlit coming from the town and he was a little round man this little round finger figure like ambling towards me and i knew he'd had a heart attack land who i knew he wasn't doing great but he gets like twenty feet of me and it's only him at me and i start to raise my hand to wave at him and he says artsy glad i cut you. I say will coach i. He didn't cut me. I i i quit as i cut you but look how good you're doing now. I mean you should be glad. I cut you doing so good and i was like coach. I think i quit. I don't think he cut me and we like this some runner well so many you both feel proprietary about your success you know. Yeah it was my decision. Yeah because i think the hard thing about that kind of situation to and it's it's good to get it out of the way young is when you have an idea of yourself and the world tells you know no that's not who you are and you can fight it and fight it but usually the world wins. You know like when it's you know it's like no you're you know it's like i try to tell my kids if if there's somebody's being an irritant and more people are saying you're being an irritant it's a it's a democracy so three people say you're an asshole you're being an asshole you can have all the righteousness in the world and all the picture of of what your motives are but no if you're being an asshole you're now i'm you're being an asshole but you were like you thought you were. You were an athlete and million not here to share whatever have fun you gotta be but now find something else to do. Well i mean it's you mentioned your kids around this and it's certainly something that that i thought about more later as i became apparent Because you don't think of it that way when it's happening you don't think of it as the world is a world as conversing with me right now dr now. It feels like everyone hates me. They're stealing my dreams take so But when you have kids like yeah you know you know that. Like every dream that they have been. They're not all gonna come true. But you want them to you and then you just realize it's almost like your heart will break more for them than it would for yourself and then you realize. Oh it's just all about resilience this whole life is just everybody's getting knocked down every day absolutely goes and social media side which gives me like this false view of of everybody's perfect life or not but You know it's just the ability to kind of say you know like asking me. How long junk seattle no. That's how fast can you bounce back. How long did take okay. I guess i'm not i'm not. I'm not going to be this great athlete. That's not who i am. Let's to define me. Now's the rest of my life going to be one of those guys sitting around on podcast talking about what a good athlete. Maybe the three questions with andy. Richter is sponsored by better help online therapy as we begin to see light at the end of the covy tunnel a lot of people are still feeling down and emotionally out of sorts. You may not feel depressed. You're at a total loss. But if you're feeling a little bit off for your relationships are suffering. That could be a sign. You need to talk to somebody. Online therapy can help better. Help is not a crisis line. It's not self help. It's professional therapy done securely. Online therapy is great. I don't know who doesn't need a little bit and better help. Is there to help you fill out a questionnaire to help better help. Assess your needs and match you with your professional license. 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That are way worse. And then you just kinda like well right. They don't have to be a pollyanna about it. But i at least can kind of know that. I'm not being persecuted by the universe and can kind of move on. But there's also a and i have. I talked to my kids about this as well as like you are entitled to your own human pain no matter how good you seem to have it yet because the gate comes with a lot of pain yeah period. Yeah then gig of being alive. Yes yeah so then. I mean there are other really bad hands. Really bad rolls of the dice That people get and that's that's obviously legitimate too. Yeah yeah but even if even if you don't think you have a right to feel bad and you do. I'm not gonna i'm not gonna say to you. You don't feel bad right shrink so yeah yeah yeah i mean maybe can feel a little better Maybe you have. It may be do have a better but you know that's the first noble truth of the buddha right life is suffering so i take. I take that as gospel anyway. I mean i'm not like a dark dark person but yeah you know. There's a lot of hurt and but i get i get what you're saying it is good to relative is sometimes yeah and just be grateful for the good i did. Yeah i mean. I just find it. I don't know i just. I've always found it useful for so many different ways. I ve talked about it before for motivational ways. Especially like going into a very daunting business and looking at successful people. That i just think are not that great. Go fucker can do it. Then all right. I i can do this. You know. I just said it can give you confidence in that way But you're right people and especially any you know any and social media anything i can say stuff about. You know my car breaking down and people will say oh. I bet it's a nice car and at least you have a car and you have a job and you're on tv and shut the fuck up. Don't ever complain in all right. Okay fine you know whatever but you know everybody's life becomes their life and and i'm sure as you know as you go through. I've seen many many people who have it all and who are fucking miserable addicted to the misery in some way which is just. I don't even. I used to kind of be fascinated with it but now i'm just bored by people who don't seem to want to take the reins of their own. Just not even like some crazy happiness. Just like no. Not being a fucking mope not hating everything all the time. Yeah i think you know like with that puts me modern. I people were self obsessed south sessions pretty boring. So i i just get bored and then i get angry. You know those people. Just because unlike i don't i don't ever fuck. Yeah yeah especially when he got to work with him. That at yeah yeah. Let's name some names. This isn't that kind of pot about guest. You know you're a you not something. I think that's very very valuable which is not put it in a way. That was kind of a funny but it is true. 'cause i had some experiences where when when i sets because like i haven't been you know an actor hadn't hadn't thought of myself as that twenty six or twenty seven and it was actually on a on chaplain. I had a small chaplain and there were lots of very well. Established established actors on that. And i saw work in house like and it wasn't like oh that amsoil can do it. I can do it but it was like. Oh it's not you know they're good. Yes but it's not magic. Now i i can do it like when i saw close In the movie theaters. Like i can't do that. The oh yeah another good. But i think i can do it and that was valuable for me to see that. Yeah yeah yeah. And you're i mean that's a you're right. That is more sort of gracious one. My version of that was. When i got out here and was doing this brady bunch show which you know i mean i was making a living but n- not a real living will but we would go groups of us ninety two nine ninety one ninety two when we would we ago groups of us and i had a pickup truck so i used to load up the truck with stuff and people and we'd go to the beach it was. It was the nineties. Life was cheap back then but We used to drive out to the beach. And i would look at just all the houses on the hills as you drive down. Pch and i would think show-business paid for most of these i betcha and ancillaries of show business. Not necessarily you know that. Not every house on that hill is owned by a famous director actor some agency. There's some agents in those. There are some guys at hang lights in those. There's you know. And i know that was tremendous because also i was looking at it. From a very mid western. This is an industry this craft this trade. I'm learning trade and early like for me. It's more on a television show as a long running thing you know you. You were part of a show. That was a living for a generation in a of of workers. There and i've been part of two long two or three long running television shows. And and yeah. I felt like cow's traits person to i felt like i should show up on time and i should show up prepared in everybody. Here is is doing a different job of this thing. Yeah all we're holding each other up and making yeah did When you started working in television and you you know you started to enjoy the success of the x. Files that was kinda that was the first big regular gig right. Well actually. i did a show called richard. Diaries was like i was like the host of this Diaries red shoe diaries. Right right right. It was kind of dirty dirty. I don't like to use that i do. Because that's what. That's what appeals to me dirty. It had that what they call. Cable edge greg. Yes yes. That's the way i like and in fact when i got the x. Files i was still doing that. And i will. I only existed on the margins of the show. I was like i did the pilot we call it a movie. We thought we're doing movie at the time because it was so cable at that point was so kind of amorphous. There was like yeah. This is the movie but they might show it on. Tv channel and then they'll be other kind of episodes really okay so I was in the pilot as in the movie and then it got picked up. It would continue. But at the end of the pilot mike character who has who has found his his his dad. Lovers diary and in that diary has read about this affair. she was having. She ends up killing herself because she can't square. You know her lives right. And i find this and you know i'm heartbroken. I didn't know her. She shouldn't have to die. And i take out an ad in the paper for women if they have secrets that they can't tell anybody that can tell their shrink or their priests ter- whomever tell me and he's very dirty so they send me their stories which are very similar to penthouse letters when when it comes down to it. Of course that's that was the set of my responsibility. I would basically. I was a lonely guy with a border collie walking around the docks of san pedro and i take a out of my trenchcoat. I'd take an envelope. And i start to redirect shoes. You'll never guess what happened to me. That was the show. So i can do while. I was doing the first year the x. files Actually would come down to la for maybe one weekend every three months and she likes six wraparound. Yeah wow well did did going from. I league education strip searching towards or you know heading towards a phd in literature to sci-fi television show like an know with that enjoys the kind of pop success. Were you okay with that. Like was there. Was there something where you felt like you were. You were focused on higher minded pursuit. And now you're kinda. Yeah i mean i know i just. I just wanted success at that. Yeah yeah and did. I want to be hugely. I wanted to be hugely. I wanted you know i want. That should be as popular. I didn't think it would be new. I did not think that was weird. It was weird it was was what was so great about it was that was so fucking weird and i At that point you'll remember. The tv was like it was like the ghetto. Know it was like you. Yeah yeah if you're an actor you didn't want to be doing. Tv different from now and they asked. Houses is one of the reasons every know they had that the show started getting movie worthy right around that time so i my plan was like no no no. I'm just gonna i got. I got rejected from so many television shows. And they'd always say he's a movie actor. He's a movie actor. And i'd be like you're damn right. You're damn thanks for not giving me the job right. I am too good for this. Will this movie actor camp by that sandwich. So i was not your didn't wanna do television. Didn't want and i also that. Didn't you know the work that we did. I thought was You know movie worthy. And then you know the fact that it was fine to me again. Same thing sci-fi back then was with fi scifi kinda rose universe you know. And and every good actor regret actor wants a fi franchise. Now how do. I get the marvel universe. It's like but it was different back then. Sci-fi was considered like you know twilight zone or whatever So that was part of me. That was like You know this is a little excited fi. you know. it wasn't my bag but then the show was what it was. And i didn't see how good it could be and i i didn't see how flexible the storytelling mechanism would be. Yeah and i think it was like it was a turning point for legitimising genre stories. I think that. Probably i wouldn't say like without the x. files we wouldn't have the ubiquity of the marvel universe but it certainly soft up softened up the mainstream to like being like all right this stuff that's kind of meant for kids or weirdos. Yeah this stuff is not gonna fly in the mainstream and then a did you know it really. I can't. I can't think of anything that kind of had a paranormal colty kind of in. I mean going back to like the night stalker. Maybe you know or wide phenomenon. Yeah yeah yeah so. Yeah i think i think that's probably right and i you know so i was on the side of you know of of the past. The way i looked at it was not what i want to be doing associated with. But i'm gonna. I'm gonna do this pilot because it's good and it's probably too good to keep level. Yeah all that stuff. I was wrong about it all but you know i kinda hung in there and also needed to get. I need to get a lot better. I needed to work. Yeah i didn't know. I know how much better i needed to get. I was very fortunate to be employed And to teach myself over a couple of years of fourteen hour a day ten months out of the year being onset figuring out what the fuck it is. I do how. How is what am i gonna get through with this grind know-how am i gonna relax helmet gonna keep myself interested. How am i gonna learn really. It really forced me to figure out the kind of work that i wanted to do and be decent at it because when i started i was barely treading water. Yeah yeah and it is i. I mean you know one of the things. I'm happy about that. I get to do is. I'm going to hopefully get to act more. Because i miss acting and i find you know in the last ten or eleven years. My acting is pretty much been one of guest spots or a couple of things where i've had arc in and i. It's exactly what you say. That when i come back somebody hires me to do a recurring on the first day back. I feel like absolute shit like that. When i when i look at the end thing which i don't do that much i don't enjoy watching myself. I think You're not good at this. And then you know a couple episodes. And i'm like all right there you know it's it's muscle memory and you're kind of getting back to it and like i say i don't have any technique my technique is just an people have objected to this. I've said this but like it's just being a good liar. Like i'm not really this guy and i have to. I have to think. Like how would i put myself over as this guy in real life and so i have to of think about on a granular level. How do i sell this lie. And it's like well. I would maybe do this. I would talk like this. I would try not to exactly what a technique is. Yeah yeah it's just. Yeah i know i know but people just to couch. It didn't like being a good liar. They feel like you know the somehow not doesn't sound noble and it's like well it's not that noble. I mean you know well maybe of a good storyteller okay. That's what i'll do from now on as you heard it here first folks now when when x-files becomes a juggernaut. Are you too busy with your fourteen hour days to kind of be flummoxed by that or i mean what was that like Will there was a lot of it that that was just. You went on somewhere else. Because i was gear but yeah i mean you know after a while you get the you get the feeling that this is crazy but it's also it's happening to you. It's a normal. Yeah it seems like that's what happens. Yeah yeah yeah. it's easy. How things get normalized so quickly you know when i think back on it i think wow you know that was that was something like many things were something you know but in the time it was the site. Let some you know. Certainly there was the scrutiny. You know the kind of like instant kind of like recognizable. Nature of my face was was weird. You know i yeah And then that normal to assist the strange thing. Yeah does it I the thing the thing that i find about being publicly known. That's kind of s- i still ambivalent about is kind of the need to withdraw. Because of you know the attention that you get just gone out you know taking your kid to the grocery store and stuff i mean. Is that something that that happened in your life and i mean and how you coped with that. This big like an asshole long cigarette holder in constant sunglasses. I don't know. I think i think that's that's the best difficulty is figuring out you know. Sometimes i just think any man. I gave it the office. You know i gave you like but then you know eventually you do you do get a little more perspective on it and you go. I have to understand this equilibrium. Your i know what know what it's about. Yeah and am. I going to teach this individual. A lesson is going to just make them what they think makes them happy or whatever it's like so i went through times teaching people lessons like sometimes when i'm driving because they need a driving lesson but you know i stopped just just being service and and you know decent human being. Yeah yeah it because it does. I find energy to be a finite resource. So it's like. How am i going to do the energy to just be sort of nice and get through this or am i going to school. This person on how rude it is to interrupt my lungs at. I want to make sure no. My name is not moulder. Maybe not make moody whatever alleged yes. I'm elder yes. I'm moody shares share. Yeah yeah well. Do i wanna make greeting for your voice mail. Sure sure everington come on. Yeah it's just. Yeah it's just. This is a funeral. Whatever we got time for the closed the casket I wanna make sure we get to your new novel Which is called truly like lightning. And i just want i wanna make sure you get a chance to plug it here. You plugged it just name. Tell me what it's about. Oh god. It's an epic. Andy i be i have. It's a long. I saw it as a to showtime. we're gonna hopefully. We're gonna make it as a television. Show them as a mini series or is it. Would it be louis going. You'll be francis. The second season would not have. It's not in the first season would be the book allow But it's i guess the hazy basic premises about this a former hollywood stuntman who i play. Who conversed mormonism because he has to in order to inherit this bunch of land out by josh retrievers grandmother. A mormon left him and in the course of like the charade like an actor trying to act like a warm it he actually converts himself unlike really starts to believe it and he ends up moving to this huge miles and miles expansively handout josh retreat with with three wives and raises ten kids off the grid for the last twenty years. Wow not not at. The kids have never met another human being. Wow so by turn of events. He's kind of pulled back into society and some of the kids. So it's really it's about struggle between religion and modern society science and faith and The past and the present and you know Parenting really what what Can you look back. Unlike one one moment that kind of sparked inspiration to tell this story. 'cause that's a big rambling story. You know yeah yeah. There's a few you know that's the way it happens. In in novels that i've written it's usually like a couple of like lightning bolt kind of ideas that link-up us together become a bigger. Yes so you know this one. Actually it actually goes back to the x. Files when i was i was writing an x file. I had an idea for one which was really about Like a metal one where they were making a movie in hollywood of a case the modern skelly had been involved in and they were invited to set. And i cast gary shandling play. Modern entail ianni multi. My ex my wife at the time to play scully. So was a fun thing for me to do and But the x. file gag caper in the middle of it was based on the scanner. Michael hoffman who just had a a netflix documentary about him couple months ago. He was a forger of mormon documents. Who ended all. I saw that. Yeah so he killed a couple of people pipebombs to try to cover his tracks. So i was fascinated by the sky is reading about another time as fascinated by by because he had said that when he was forging justice smith the founder of the church. He was so consumed with the spirit of that. It wasn't really a forgery. it was actual more. Channeling was more like he was joe. Smith the end as an actor in we were just talking about. I was like oh. That's you know you hear actors talk about that and then that's what actors are doing and we're also forgers in that way. You say i'm a liar. Yeah same thing so. I was fascinated by that so i kind of created a story around a forgery. Actually jesus christ's words. Yeah so Transmute translated the mormonism to just christianity. But because i was interested in that story. I did do a lot of research around mormonism at the time and and i i'd always been kind of fascinated by it and there was a professor minded. Newhaven name harold bloom who wrote about Coal justice with genius like literary genius and that was fascinating to males like. Oh my god That my my idea. Warm as it was more like the book of mormon deal like the shade version of it so yeah these things start rattling around my head and then there was A plot device you know the Aside from polygamy and there was another a tenant that joseph smith held at brigham young. It is no longer practical blood. Atonement which is there are certain centers that are beyond the moment of christ's sacrifice. Only way that you can personally atone for those heinous crimes is to have your own blood spilled so i thought oh. Wow that's a great plot device if if you don't believe in the justice of society but you have like a religious justice that that fights against society. Yeah so these things started to tumble around. Yeah it only twenty years. But i wrote it. Yeah no i. I definitely want to check it out because i Like e i have an interest in mormonism. I mean i have i have read about it. A fair amount That oh i forget. The the joe the classic joseph smith book no country knows my name or no man knows my name. Yeah yeah And it's just. I mean it's amazing. What's amazing to me. Is that the recent -ness of it is and that's kind of like the point of this guy forged documents is. It's just a lot easier because it all kind of happened. Ten minutes ago within terms of civilization time and yet it's become it's legit as any other religion and it's as all the stuff that you can look at mormonism and go wait a minute. This took place in cahokia illinois. And that's you know that's s that did people some sort of leave but noah's ark right or walking on water you know turning loaves into nursing lows fishes appear it's all you know magical in all just kind of depends on of the people. Also what you say is exactly appropriate for what i was doing and what bloom was talking about. Which is that. there's a there's a kind of a flying by the seat of your pants. A vitality and day ness to joseph smith. He's he's not looking back two thousand years ago all the time he's saying. Hey it's happening now tapping in america. America's americans like to thank. Hey it's all happening here. This is the place where it happens. Yeah so there was something very american. There's something very energetic. Not like you know looking. Two thousand years ago to the miracles were looking like now. Yeah yeah so. That was cool to me. It was like why not why. Why do we have to be born late. Why can't we. Why can't we be born in the in the best times. Why can't we be born to the time of miracles. Des yeah and also You also get to kinda reexamined what the notion of piety is and and put in all kinds of convenient parts. That allow you to you. Know mary. more than one person at a time Which is all. That's the other fascinating thing about that. Religion is the notion and it's kind of like causes them trouble these days a notion that anyone can be. There's no pope. Anyone can have a direct conduit to god and when you can do that. It's like you know what god says you know that we should chrome the house you know and you know god says i should blow up. The city's water supply. And you know and when you get down to that once you give that kind of egalitarian. Freedom to a religion like some crazy shit is going to happen and some crazy shit has happened. Well i mean you're describing martin luther as well. Yeah in striving protestantism. Yeah just which says you. Don't need the mediator of a priest. Jan describing the advent of the printing press which said the priest doesn't own the bible every one of their own home and can read it whenever they want. And we're going to translate it into your language so that's always going to be the move yet. Always gonna be people are gonna say. Hey there's this thing but there's a limited supply we're gonna hold onto it. We'll we'll let you know what's going on and eventually people are going to go. I think you gotta share a little more. And if you know that we're gonna we're going to have our supply chain. Yeah yup yup religion. it's crazy anyway resolved. we'll be right back Well is there something that you've left undone. I mean the the second question of these three questions where you going and And is there something you've left. Because i mean you do so much and you have so many irons in so many fires and here you wrote this novel that you've been doing on for twenty years and now very possibly going to be a tv show Are there things left undone. I don't know if if if there are actual things. But i keep on liking to do stuff. I certainly not trying to Do the same thing again But it my experience every Every project different calls out a different part of myself in different. You know you're a different person every day so things just changed through the work. I'm fascinated by that. You know every every step of the way to watch. Watch how it's different and i do love collaborating love. I love meeting new people in working with people that i like whose whose work that. I like So i'm i'm i guess i wouldn't say like oh there's something i want to do specific but i would say that. I'm still hungry to keep doing things. Oh it makes absolute sense. I mean say. I've never had a plan. I've just my plans always been To be open and then to make a choice when it comes because that's all anything ever is that's building a house that's cooking. A meal is just a series of decisions that life presents. You and you go this way or i'll go that way you know. I know it's impossible because you realize sometimes you realize that that little decision was so important. Yeah whereas your life and once you start to think about that like for instance i. I tried to turn down x. Files because i already said i already committed to doing a little part in a television movie and like nine hundred. I can't go back on my word. I said i was gonna do that. Unlike my agents just all came down and said you have to not do it you out of it but if it was left to me out of said you know what i i i i believe more in my word than i do in this league again but kicking another plus for said. The moment of decision is madness. Know it's like because when it comes down to it like you. Don't you can like write your ledger down. Pros and cons. You know all this stuff but you know every decision you've ever made as to like i'm going to do that yet. So that's the crazy thing when it's all instinct and just like i feel like i'm going to do that. Yeah just tried to say. Yes as much as i can. Yeah i agree. Yeah i mean know. You don't wanna look like an asshole and do some garbage. But i've done that too. You know so. Oh boy. I should have always. I always call those jobs. They paid me enough. Like there's like. I know it's not great but Shit here comes the number. And yeah i gotta do that. They couldn't pay me enough. Couldn't pay me. Yeah and but sometimes they can well You know we're kind of talking about lessons your Your garden all What is there a moment in your podcast. We always talk about your garden. Yeah but that's just because it's an exterminator company here in burbank in their a sponsor. I thought you were being done. Work with a cure for guard. Pest control on olive avenue and what i mean i mean what. What's what's the biggest lesson you've gotten out of your own story you can impart or or not. It's not it's not my own story. But but it's something that i kinda i'll tell my kids. It's never as bad or as good as it first appears. Yeah and i'll also say you know. Stand train because the siri will change. You know like ask. Just just sit down and wait a bit Also butts like king lear. One of the carrier says this is not the worst so long as we can say. This is the worst. Yeah we're still saying. Oh this is worst. Yeah happy because he just said it. So right these these things like just to try and get like a long perspective even when you're in the heat of the moment it's it's a tough thing to do but that that would be you know whatever ups and downs. I've had career licensed that that it's never been as greater as bad as samed. Well thank you so much for taking this time with me. This has been this. This was as great as it seemed right now. I know it come on just disproved. He was an asshole the whole time. He great stuff. And i just wanted to like. I said like towards the beginning. I just wanted to say i guess was my way of sand banks that i was appreciated. A what you did on tv As as as just the guy sitting in a room looking at it but also the guy sitting next to you that i doug. I don't get thing and it's your thing and You know even though you can't explain it which is probably why it's thing Dan just wanted to say. I dug it. So thank you. Wanted to be as inarticulate as i just was. No no i mean it's i i'm i'm I never know what to do in the face of sharp to complement -rageous zinc. It's fangs into me and good. We're just on zoom where you can leave i- muted you. Whenever i hear you saying nice things. I just All right well. Thanks again David and thank all of you for listening and we'll be back next week with more of this stuff. Three questions of india. 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"Mail chimp is in the business of growing businesses. So no matter what stage you're in male chimps. Smart marketing platform can help you grow and get your brand out there. You're more than a small business and male chimps got more intelligent marketing tools to help you grow it with marketing automation designed tools and recommendations that all work together to help you sell more stuff. Mail chimp built for growing businesses. Hey everybody. It's andy richter with three questions and today i get to have fun because i get to talk to a friend of mine 'cause most of these people can't stand up just a bunch of tedious fucking hollywood suck upset the phonies and finally i get to talk to a real saul to the earth pieces. Shit steve agey a real ham and egger. I would've said even i. Don't you know hamburgers weird ones. It means because we ammon eggs in. When i was in high school who i only heard him say at once. You like there was some like you know like we were in town and there are some like truck driver types at this diner and he's like ham and eggers he's like those are some real ham and eggers or something like that and it seemed to be the perfect phrase or these guys even though it i have no idea what it mean right right. Maybe he was just talking about their breakfasts maybe seeking to catch. I just flashed on remembering. It was a regular thing when i was a kid a group and kind of kind of like a rural town in illinois but i remember so distinctly going to coffee shops or like you know the breakfast restaurant would be sort of a truck stop at the time. Yeah you can go there. And so many farmers would be eating and smoking at the same time like half their plate of food and have a cigarette going at the same time like you. Can't i remember interrupt this cigarette. I remember going to my parents. For brief period of time lived in blyth california which is right on the california oregon or california arizona border. It's like the colorado river is right there dividing the two states and It's mostly like farming town and or people who work at the maximum security prison. And i would go out and get coffee with my dad at a very similar establishment and it was just farmers and prison guards. Smoking drinking coffee. Yeah it's truly. I mean nothing new. It is truly amazing. I mean why we're talking about this. I don't know but just how much cigarette smoke around his children. And i mean everywhere and how shocking it is now like i remember being at my kids junior high and i was across the like something at school with my kids and i was at the fire under the gym from an open door and then even another like probably twenty five yards could see someone had just lit up a cigarette and i could smell it almost instantly remember when it used to be okay to smoke on planes at. That's insane. they're still places in the world. Like i remember when we were shooting a movie. Semipro me and kent alterman. The director went out for breakfast at this town in michigan which was like a shotgun diner one half it like it was like completely split down the middle by an aisle and that was the whole place. One side was smoking in one side wasn't so smoking section was literally arm's reach from you no matter where you were sitting. And that's in michigan. I don't know it's just pretty fucking trashy though. If there is a smoking section in a restaurant then the whole restaurant is smoking. There's no like yeah. This is nonsmoker. No you're were getting the smoke effect over here too. It's amazing how recent it was too. Because i remember when we started doing the late night show on the on the the sixth floor There was the local news is across the hall. And you see people like running from the edit bay to the studio with a tape in their hand wall smoking a cigarette you could walk down the hall of thirty rock in nineteen ninety-three smoking a cigarette and it was. Did you ever have the only person that comes to mind. As sean penn on your show and did he smoke on while doing panel. I you know. I can't remember exactly i think a couple people have But i don't remember exactly I'm really erased all coenen. Memories just coping mechanisms to move forward with my life will after so many. i mean. you can't remember everything i you know. We only did. Like i think thirty episodes of sarah show and like i can see something it'd be like i have no shooting this at all. It's weird it's really weird to see yourself in some elaborate. Get up doing ridiculous shit. And go like no recollection at whatever. The human mind yup. Well listen you're from riverside california. Remember that i mean. I don't remember being born there. But i have. I do have memories. That started forming at some point while i was living marietta. Yeah yeah was that where you ended up growing up and going by you where i was born there and my my parents worked at parkview community hospital which is in riverside which is where i was born and they i was adopted. They adopted me and the adopted me from the hospital that my dad was working at the time and my mom says that he had they were looking to adopt and my dad was called her one day. And it's like there's a baby here. That's up for adoption. And i always thought it was more complicated. Now but i think in the late sixties and seventies it was like oh yeah you can have this kind of sounds to me like maybe he stole you. I mean i wouldn't doubt it. My dad just like scumbag was awesome. Yeah yeah no. It does sound like you know. Hey honey come home from work sip. Some fries look on in the break room right around christmas. My mom had a baby and the stocking on christmas day. Have you do you do you Have any contact with your birth parents or any. You know any desire. So funny. i was telling. You know. Seth morris. But i was telling him dory just last night that i kind of accidentally found my biological father when i was thirty like literally through just i knew my birth parents names and i knew that they went to school in a cow st stanislas which is near like fresno. It's one of the cal state schools and i knew that they were theater students which really also a lot and one night. I was thirty in one night. I just bored. And i decided to go to that. Cal state schools website. Like i wonder if they have a link to the drama department and sure enough they did and i clicked on it and then just for no reason. I emailed the head of the theater department at that school i said. Hey you don't know me but my parents went to school there and probably about one thousand nine hundred sixty eight and these are their names and as wondering if anyone teaching there right now was teaching there in the sixties and. This was a friday night and monday. Got an email from the head of the inter department. He goes nineteen. Sixty eight was my first year working at the school. I totally new your parents. I don't know what happened to your biological mother. But i still keep in touch with your biological father and i forwarded him your email. He didn't ask me by the way of that. Was just like i say your email your biological father. And i just remember going. Oh shit that's out there. Yeah yeah and then like a week or two later he wrote me back in this really amazing long email about you know who he was who he is and and you know that i have like half half brother and a couple half sisters and it is really cool. Do still is a really cool dude. Is he still in california or no. He was never in california. He lives in eugene oregon. Okay and my half brother jordan. Lipson Oakland and then the two half sisters also live in oregon. And do you mean you obviously have met them and in contact with them and everything short actually quite often. You know whenever. I'm in san francisco. Doing stand up or for sketch fast. Which is every january. I get lunch or dinner with something needs. Yeah when he's a musician and whenever he's playing down here you know try and make it a point to go see him and did your biological father end up doing something creative. You want to hear something crazy. I guess like no so in his email he was saying you know i went to school and after i graduated. He said he moved to ashland oregon. Which is home of the oregon shakespeare festival. Really small town Very coy it's almost more like a village but it's really a really cool town at the base in the mountains and it's really the first time you come to if you drive into oregon from california and the crazy thing is that when i was about twenty seven i was taking classes at the groundlings and i had like a really long wait between classes like a year. Wait and so did my girlfriend and we were just like. Let's not just sit. Nellie for a year. let's you know we're young. Let's go somewhere for year. Let's get in the car and just go somewhere. And so we got my truck and just started driving north and we ended up in ashland oregon and we ended up living there for a year. While no fucking reason. Wow and so. I thought that was pretty bizarre that you know my biological father had just ended up in ashland and probably when he was about the same age as i was when i randomly for no reason just moved to ashland. He wasn't there when you were there though. No he was probably there in the early to mid seventies right right. Wow oh i had a question it for slipped my mind do do you. So are there any other siblings. Did your folks adopt anybody any other by older brother. Greg is about eight years older than me and my younger sister. Beth is a year younger than me and all adopted. Oh wow all right and now what kind of what was your household Are your are your. You're in the middle then right. Yeah yeah i mean. I my brother being eight years older than me. That's a stretch. Yeah and he was also adopted from my dad's previous marriage. So i see he would spend a lot of time with his mother that his adoptive mother he would kind of divided his time between my dad and his his mom. So i don't have a lot of memories of gray when we were younger right because he was back and forth and then you know when he was like eighteen he went to college and so he was gone a lot but it was. You know my dad was a doctor. He was an anesthesiologist and so he was working a lot. He was gone a lot. Iowa's you know one of those kids. That kinda wrote his bike around the neighborhood with his weirdo neighbor. Friends until like nine o'clock at night. And yeah until the rule was always when the streetlights come on come home but i never would and so it was always you know. We'd be riding bikes or something. I could hear my mom yelling from the front. Yeah which is totally crazy. That doesn't happen anymore. Yeah i could hear my mom yelling. And i could hear my my best friend's mom next door yelling just here women yelling all over the neighbor right. That is pretty well now to every every kid's got phone so you know you just tax where you know. It was back in time where everyone kind of just rode their bikes to the mall play. Bb guns out in the orange groves we did. I mean i. We had behind. Our house was like woods and we'd go play in the woods and like when it was dinner time my grandmother would ring a bell like stands like a fucking ranch triangle bell no like like a little ding ding ding being like a little brass bell. And yeah and then we'd here then be like all right time to eat you know but now we heard i was terrified getting in trouble but i feel like you probably weren't. I was terrified. Yes my my sister was a lot of trouble. My brother was a troublemaker. And so i had at guilty sense of. I gotta be the good one. Even though really by the time i got to high school. I was probably the worst one of all of them. But like i had this feeling of. I gotta make my parents happy because i can tell. They're losing their fucking mind. Yeah but yeah. I was very conscious about. You know my parents stress level. Yeah why why do you think that. All the kids restorative rabble-rousers and shit stirs. I can't you know i'm fifty two. I do not have kids. I don't envision having kids. I can't imagine having three kids or in your case to kids like just the stress. I remember one time. I was probably like eight or nine and i was upstairs in our house and i looked out in the backyard and i saw my dad walking down walking around in the backyard. I think i think he was raking the leaves in the backyard. Remember seeing him talking to himself year. He's a hundred yards. Yeah i can just see him raping and talking. You know there were no bluetooth. There's like he was talking to himself. And it scared the shit out of me because his father had had dementia and so i remember a period when my grandpa was staying in our house and he had alzheimer's and was like again thought he had to go out and get the horses in the backyard. It was fucking scary for a little bit. Yeah and so. I remember seeing my dad talking to himself in the backyard and i was like. Oh my god. Oh my god. My dad's got dementia. I didn't know that word. When i was a little kid. My dad is going crazy senile. Yeah my dad's unhappy and crazy. And i was very hyper aware of that. Now at fifty two. I'm like oh my dad was just fucking trying to keep himself from blowing a gasket. Yeah i talked to myself all the time. Yeah and also to. There is a difference like in terms of like the parenting. Feary has changed so much because it used to be. You got to teach a kid submit like because that's what life is life is submitting and there actually is some truth to that You know when you have a kid especially like it is a life skill to because you know. And it's like i. It's a capitalist world. So it's like you go somewhere and you you get paid to do labor of whatever kind and part of that is having somebody that you think is a fucking asshole. Tell you what to do and you just gotta do it. Because that's the structure of this particular thing and i mean you could. I mean you could raise your kid to be like a you know a marxist reactionary or the revolutionary or something but odds are your kid is not gonna be that so it's like you got to teach them. Yes sometimes you gotta eat shit. Which is it's not a fun thing to teach your kid but take flows and fucking dan like. Yeah like i know that guy's an asshole but if you're like you know it just like you got to do your time. You gotta keep your head down you gotta you know and then you get to a place where you can sorta like do what you want. You know we'll believe me. I am very aware of that. You know i. I spent two years. I got kicked out of high school. And i had you know. My parents ended up like so frustrated that they sent me to military school. Which was the big threat and all the movies in the eighties. If bill and ted we're going to send you to military school if you don't straighten up. I was the kid that actually got sent to military school. So talk about eating shit and doing what you're told for two years. Wow what did what did you what. We're still bad what we do. And that was so bad that you need this draw to prison. Basic drinking like i really. When i was a freshman in high school to seniors took me out and got me drunk and i it was a it was a game changer for me. I was like because i was a shy kid. You know all elementary junior high. And i was afraid to talk to girls and i remember just we went to a liquor store. We paid bummed bias. Three bottles of boone's farm strawberry and we went to know a development area where they were building tract housing. And you know there were still no houses yet so we went to an empty coal. The sack like turned on van halen and sat on my friends tailgate. And like just chug big bottles of boone's five and i just remember being like am i gonna throw up is it's gonna make me throw up at him and they're like dude. Just shut up drinking at one point. I just remember laughing so much and then we went and watched. I think it was beverly hills cop or forty eight hours one of those movies. Yeah and laughing so much and then from then on out every party i would go to. I would get drunk. And i would be completely the life of the party and talk the girls and make out with girls and so booze was like you know as a magic pill for me and so i just did it constantly to the point where i started doing it in the morning on the way the school i would get a big gulp at seven eleven. Poor half a bottle of southern comfort into a thing of coke like a pint of southern comfort in like by second period. I'd be completely buzzed and You know every now and then. My parents would look in my car and find an empty bottle of an empty fifth. Jack daniels which is disturbing to find in a car. Yeah yeah beer cans like heavy hard alcohol. Southern was my especially with to a teenager like wanting to find it in a thirty five year olds but teenagers are already a menace. You know what. I mean on in in a car and i you know oddly got kicked out of a school for trashing a homeroom which i actually didn't do to friends of mine did it and they did it in the morning before an assembly. And they're like dude. You gotta go. Look at home room. And i walked in and they had just like destroyed it. I don't know why they did it. And as i was walking out of homeroom teacher saw me day. I didn't. they didn't say anything at the time. And then my next year of school when i was registering. They're like you have to have a meeting with the principal. And i went with my mom. And he's like before we let steve back in school. You should know that he trashed room. And i was like what are you talking about. What and then. He's like the home room before and i was like. Oh yeah i go that. That wasn't me is like who was it. I'm like i can't tell you i'm going to tell you that it wasn't me and he's like well. You have to apologize to the board. The school board before we let you back and i was like i didn't do it in my mom. God bless her was like My son said he didn't do it. He didn't do it right. And i don't want him going. You're fucking school. If you're gonna accuse them of shit you didn't do. The sad part of that was then serving the military school. Yeah because they add friends who sent their son there and he got straight as and i was getting fs and ds and So the i got kicked out or did you get kicked out more before there was my freshman year. There was school the album schools. No they're private christian school okay. But they're co ed and my sophomore year halfway through the year for some reason. I don't know why. I decided. I wanted to go to a different school and i ended up switching it. You know halfway through the school year and going to this other school and oddly all my friends who are also drinking the next semester. The yeah the next semester all got busted for drinking. they all got suspended. They all had to go to like alcohol programs for teens and i am managed to avoid it so this was my second school. I school i got kicked out of and then They seventy all the way across the country to bright outside of philadelphia to the school where they filmed that movie taps. Oh wow which is also the basis of penalty prep and catcher in the riots. The school jd salinger went to. Oh wow Now d- did. Did you miss part of the school year or did it happen like she had that meeting with the principal and then it was like okay. You're going and then three days later. You're no this was so went to the same school for my first year. The have the second my sophomore year. I switched schools so i went to school my sophomore year over the summer. I had to have this meeting with the principal. Algae let back into school before my genius. I understand by the way they sent me to this military school. And we go at my mom and i go there. And they're showing us around and i have to take some tests and stuff. I remember that the dean saying to my mom like well. Some of his grades are bad in his credits. Don't you know transport so he's going to have to a second junior or something. It took me five years ago through high school and looking back on it. I'm like i think that was bullshit and they were just trying to get more money out of my parents. Yeah but yeah. That was two very interesting years really bizarre years like tell me about it. I mean. I can't even fathom what that would be like a good game about eating shit man military school. I would think. I just curl up in a ball in the corner will also by the way i tell everybody with kids. I'm like never send your kid to military school. Yeah 'cause you're literally sending them to a school that is the all stars of fuck ups. Yeah like i was nothing when i got to that school with like hard core like screw ups and like people who would go on to kill their parents and law like really scared people a few awesome people there too but like right people were not there. Were very few people. Who were there. Because i want to go to military school flying you know and it was narrow taking those people in training them to fight with weapons. We did have to shoot like we had twenty two. We had to shoot guns and march. And i had to you know polish my shoes and my brass and belt buckles and had have daily inspections and it was insane. You're marching everywhere. It is insane. You're getting up at five thirty in the morning and going up to the you know the the physical education field and running a couple miles and doing calisthenics and then going back and cleaning the dorm till it's spotless for an inspection and then you go eat and then you go to school. Yeah and everyone is just sitting in class nodding off because they're exhausted. No matter what you wanna protect. Nobody has more experience helping keep it safe. An adt adt has received the most burglar alarm events in the industry and help save more lives than any other home security provider. Adt was named the best home security system of twenty twenty by us news strategic analytics. Twenty twenty says adt is the number one smart home security provider with adt. You get twenty. Four seven peace of mind from the creators of the home security category and adt has over twenty thousand employees experienced in help. Keeping you safe experience matters. 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And they're just like try it out if it doesn't work in your really hate it you can come home. They just said that to appease me. Because i've seen letters that i wrote to my parents for military school going all right. I've tried it. This place fucking sucks. Lemme come home like really depressing letters that were just like this is like prison by the way you know. I was drinking a bunch. But once i got the military school it was like oh. Let's try acid. Let's try speed. Let's try home. That was like seventeen at this point and you know it was really hard in a dorm to hide bottles of alcohol because we had daily inspections. Yeah no you couldn't hide a fifth vodka somewhere but yeah or the smell of it on your breath or on your clothes. Yeah but you get hired a sheet of acid. You know it under your mattress like in a book. It was really easy to hide drugs. You know did and we did a lot of drugs while you're running and marching and going to class or afterward. Oh yeah sometimes. We were doing it because we had to run. You know very popular is like sometimes you just do a bump speed to go fuck and run two miles at five thirty in the morning. Oh my god well. What have i mean. How do you get out of there. I mean he's your well first of all graduate is really you so that was. Oh so you don't okay 'cause you said five years but you only did two years there and then you graduated yeah yet. Oh and until my kids off. I did like three years of regular high school. Okay and then. It was two years at the military in the summer. When you come back to california in between those two years how do you not go. I'm like chain yourself to radiator something by the end of the first year you're like play knocks but i've got some really good friends that i okay. I'm still going to be a very vocal about not wanting to go back but also i have more important things to do like hang out and party with my friends before i get sent back so let me see you spend your summer are out. You know eighteen hours with your friends like could you have good communication with your folks. Or was avoidance kind of like a key to a lot of what would do because it sounds like you'd come home. Everybody knows the situation but nobody talks about it. Yes they know you're dissatisfied. You know they want you to go back but you just kind of my parents. Were you know pretty hard core christian conservative and nobody really talked about feelings. Yeah until you know. Probably like the last fifteen twenty years for some reason when you become an adult and you leave the house and then all of a sudden every phone call is an ends with. I love you or you know. It's it was very nice but like as a kid like it was not my parents. Were great. I really did hit the lottery. But you know feelings i. I don't know if it was a seventies or eighties thing but like yeah. People just didn't really talk. Yeah well so you get out of there. And i guess well the is the only good thing you take out of there. That was another thought across. Well i did end up getting like straight bs. And as i really because at night. There's nothing to do but study you literally every night. Have to sit for two hours at your desk in your room. You can't even get up. You have monitors walking down the hall like the fucking gulagin. They're just like the you can't get up to take a leak you can but you have to ask permission. I see and so at some point. You're just like fucking mind as well. Read this fucking chapter in my history right right and you retain it and you're like oh my god i remember this from two nights shit works. I just said to read fuck well. Where do you go to college then. So after or you like. Do you feel like you don't want to go to college because you just went through all this the intense this school. They're eating never wanted to go to college. It was never my plan. Yeah but also all my friends. And when i say all my friends i mean my friends from back home. I don't mean my military school. My friends will end my military school friends. We're going to college and my parents went to college. And everyone like and i like. I have to go to college. And i've been offered a scholarship to play basketball. I was really good basketball. And i have been given an offer to play at the school in new york or new yorker pennsylvania at west chester university and I never told my parents about it. Being offered the scholarship as a fuck you to like. I'm not gonna fucking do this shit anymore. I wanna go back home. And and so. I just went to this this private. I never private christian college. I grew up in a christian household and a christian community. We went to christian schools. And so all my friends were also in the same boat and everyone just kind of went from these christian private academies to this christian private school which was loma linda university which is a very famous medical school mike loma linda university. A lot of their students go into loma. Linda university medical center which is where they did. The first baboon heart transplant when they do amazing stuff for humans. Let's veterinary hospital. Yeah it's all horses and monkey all right well anyway. I'm sorry but so but this college also has like a business program. I also grew up around the ocean alive and scuba diving and surfing. And the only thing i think i wanted to do was. Maybe i'll be a marine biologist and So i and they didn't have a marine biology program. But i figured i could get all my biology classes out of the way at the school and then transfer to like cal. State long beach or strips or something and first semester. Just failed all i could not grass biology. And it's crazy because they start you out as a freshman. You're still dumb like they start you out with the smallest level of biology and chemistry and like cellular and molecular and atoms might oke andrea. And you're just like what does this have to do with fish and like i was like no. I can't do this. i'm not and so you know. Halfway through the freshman year develop an ulcer. And i'm just like i. I can't do this and then so i finished the year undecided and then my best friend sam i remember going. Just be an art major. Like he's like they have art department up there and he's like he's like i've seen you doodle russia. He's like being major. And so i was like yeah. I'll be an art major. And so i switched and my parents were like fuck okay. Well at least he's still in college and yeah. Maybe i can be a graphic designer or something. I never wanted you honestly since i was a little kid. I wanted to be an actor and a stand up comedian. I remember as a kid. My idol was john ritter. I wanted to be john ritter mile. And i knew that from the time i was about ten years old and the first album i bought at eleven years old with my own money. I went down to the mall. And i bought george carlin a place for my stuff. I was eleven. I didn't understand half of his but for some reason. I like this guy's funny and i want to do this but i had no friends. I didn't know anyone in that world. And i didn't think possible so i would just buy it and consume it and just soak it up and at some point while i was in college i join a band with my roommate and also i remember my mom. You've been playing guitar all along right. No i started when i was like eighteen team and I think my mom knew what was up. Because i remember a. She told me about an open mic night. She's like you should do this. You know it was at this bar in fucking riverside. And yeah i think called carlos o'brien's or something and and i did stand up and i and she also sent me a clipping out of the local newspaper that the local community theater was holding auditions for christmas. Carol wow and it was like okay. I was really excited. And i went and i and i got the part of jacob marley and like i fucking loved it from the time i i did it and stand up to. Yeah and i still didn't think it was possible for me to do it because you. That's why you didn't become a theater major. He became an art major. Because it's still like oh that can't happen and they didn't have a theatre major at our school. It was all just graphic arts. And so i have a degree in painting. Wow few two-dimensional art degree in like a bachelor's degree. I haven't painted anything since the day. I like a week before. I graduated nine even houses robots. Yes i've painted houses a lot of house cleaning. Yes yes well. Then what i well then eventually graduate and yeah. I also got very into rock climbing. 'cause i took a class because there was a girl i had a crush on shoes taking this rock climbing class at and so i signed up and just took to it like like i was meant to do it. Yeah so much so that like the second year. I was helping the teacher teach the class. A- and so i- rock climbed all through college. I even took a year off and went to a college up in the hills above napa valley. Just so i could rock climb. Wow none of my credits transfered. But also while i was there i met a girl who's a photography major and we ended up dating for like six years. We moved to la together. We went to new york together in one thousand ninety three the art department that i was going to gave out a scholarship to go study abroad somewhere and so my girlfriend and i went to new york. I just to go to new york. I'd never been So i went and i studied. I did painting and stuff at the art students. League which is on west fifty seventh or some and i just loved it and i i would take like one class every other day there and the rest of the time i would just walk around in new york. I would go to clubs and i would go to museums and like bucking love. And i believe i was there. I was there when letterman had his last. Show at nbc. And you guys were announced as taking his place. I don't think i was still there when you started. I think did you start ninety four. We'd no he started in ninety three in ninety three. Okay so i was still there when you started but also we weren't making any money and so we blew through our money in like six months and was out of there but i had to come back anyway and so when i eventually graduated college with my weird degree i didn't know what to do beyond they don't prepare you for this shit it's like here's your degree by right right and we'll ask you like once a year to don't donate money to us on to just to take their side for a second. You weren't exactly directed. You know what i mean. You didn't have like it. Sounds like you didn't have a lot of self direction. Though beyond kind of experiential kind of things so i mean you know i think colleges do kinda expect you you about what to do with yourself. Yeah and the crazy thing is i got to college and i just more options started opening. Yeah just like. Maybe i paint or i really like playing in a band and so when i graduated. I was already playing in a band. Who i joined this band. It was a cover band. My roommate was in their bass player broke his arm and it was like that movie. That thing you do but instead of a drummer it was the bass player broke his arm and i had a base in my roommate. Was like you wanna come play with us. We just do covers our friends. And and i went and we started playing and literally by the end of the first rehearsal. Just digging around we. We've written like four songs like songs. But like and. I was so excited by that that i started calling clubs. I was like you guys have to play in clubs. what are we doing. And they're like really. I'm like we just wrote four songs and we have like eight covers. We can play at a club. And i started calling out of la weekly and the local newspapers and the first person returned my call. Was this guy against name. Was mike jean grecko. He used to book clubs in la and he booked us to play the fucking whiskey. First gig was whiskey gogo. What was the name of the band. The name of the band was the grazers and We played and it was awesome. And so i knew. When i graduated i needed to be in la. Even if the band wasn't gonna low relocate. I needed to be there. So i in order to keep from having to get a job. I enrolled at the school here in. La called the musicians institute and it's like just a year program in school. Yeah and i went. Because i wanted to learn to read music and i wanted to learn proper technique which i learned. Yeah and that ended the band ended. You know our singer went on to be to a seminary to become a pastor and guitar player became a nurse punk classic punk story and i think the drummer is now either a lawyer or an archaeologist and i was the only one who kinda followed through and You know mike. The day i graduated from the music school. My girlfriend broke up with me. And move back to sacramento. And i was stuck here and i just but i fuck in. I loved l. a. And i loved every bit of music and i met a met a girl and started dating or she was taking classes at the groundlings and i went to a show was like it was the light bulb. I was like this is it. Yeah i need to be doing this. And i had already known about you know the groundlings in recruiting for snl. And i was like. This is how i get into tv. This is a much better entrance into comedy for me. I love sketch comedy. And and you've been doing stand up at that point. Yes yeah a little bit. Yeah so. I started taking classes at the groundlings and it was a life changing decision for me. Yes i started taking classes. And you know you're in classes you went to was at second city or i want to em- problem i oh yeah improv olympic. And you're there as just a student or performer. And you're performing with people who later go on to be like huge stars and friends and you start relationships with these people that lead to working with these people. And i was in classes with maya rudolph and i was there with will forte. And you know all these people who were you know at the time. We're just like just like you working at starbucks and yeah just trying to do. Sketch comedy and Eventually you know. I got voted out of the groundlings. What voted out teachers voter something. Well after my last class it was like they have to vote on whether or not to let you into the sunday company which is kind of like the minor league performing troupe and it was just like no no i you know. I don't think we need another white guy. yeah you know my emadedin. Which of. I was a no brainer. Not right you not. Because she's black or jewish but because she's fucking incredible and there were people that i was in classes with that. You can just tell like melissa mccarthy your like she's gonna like you could tell that person's gonna make it that person's going to make it. I was crushed. Because i had spent every day of my life at the groundlings theatre working there for classes performing. Doing you know workshops and all my friends were there. And i literally one time it was voted out was like i literally don't know what to do now. Mike plans just crush. And i ended up doing a play that a friend was in my friend. Jim giordano was doing a play with guy. Dave just cow. Who's a new york comedian. Who you may know. He's he was yeah. I know the name. Best friends with sarah silverman. Okay and he was doing this play about an eighties rock band. Who is now you know has been trying to make a comeback. So he needed someone who could play guitar because somebody dropped out of this. Play an my friend jim goes. You should hire my friend steve. He can play guitar. He's been at the groundlings. He's very funny. And so two days notice. I had to learn the script and i did this. We did this. Play down on theatre row on santa monica boulevard and Opening night sarah silverman came to the show and afterwards she came up to me. She's like that was really funny. Man she's like you really funny and you want to smoke a joint. And i was like yeah and we sat outside and smoke a joint and from that point on sarah and i were best friends hung out constantly and you know it formed You know creative and just emotional. You know friendship and You know she's still one of my best friends to this day and she helped me i. I don't know where. I would be right now without sarah because not only did she hire me on our show which was my first really big acting gig but also before that. She introduced me to jimmy kimmel when she was dating him and i got a job working on his show. It which eventually ended up to me with me being a writer and also sarah's the one who's like union to go see a shrink. You should be on medication. Because at one point. I started having panic attacks so bad that i didn't leave my house for like. Three months became agoraphobia. And just called her one night because i just tried to seven eleven to get food in the middle of the night. Because it's the only time i would leave my house. I was so scared. And i go to the seven eleven and i'm sitting in the parking lot and i'm looking through the windows and there's just one person in there and i couldn't go in because there was one person in there and i just called sarah sobbing as like i think i'm losing my mind. And she's like oh you can get your mind back. She's like go. See my shrink. Here's number and two days later. I'm seeing her shrink. And you know they get me on of pro in two weeks. I was like back performing in like wow game change. I o sarah more than i could ever repair. Yeah and you think that just was at her help that made you get to. I mean i know she set up your appointment with shrink but the actual leaving of the apartment. Which is that you know the over but yeah but do you think that her having set you up with the guy helped you be brave enough or did you just push through it because you knew you had to do something i knew i had to do it but i knew that was the light at the end of the tunnel was even if i hadn't gone on medication. I knew i needed therapy. I needed to talk to somebody. I was talking to anybody. I my brain was a mess from other. What do i do. You know the all the artistic sh that we go through like you know. I i i have to. You know up until i just you know incorporated but up until in is like. I signed like fucking thirty pieces of paperwork for acting every year and so every year i have. I'm juggling twenty looking w. twos and it's my parents had one. You know great taxes were easy for me. It's just like what am i doing with my life i am. What's your take when you were trapped in. I mean what do you was. Was it just a raw fear or was there something specific. That was haunting you. It was. I don't remember when it starts. Oh no actually. I do remember. My very first. Panic attack was in military school. I remember. I remember the day like it like it was yesterday. I was walking down the hallway in the dorm and two of my friends were wrestling. And they both fell to the ground and one of his head on the edge of the doorway which is cinder. It's out in lime green military or wax floors. And i just remember seeing his eyes roll back in his head and just bright red blood on this like green floor and that was the moment i was like. Oh i could fucking die any moment and that's looking back at the moment i wasn't thinking i could die at any moment but i think my brain was figuring that out and so i went to dinner that night and all of a sudden i'm eating. I couldn't swallow my food like i literally. It wasn't an involuntary reaction anymore. It was literally just can't remember how to swallow. And i know i shouldn't have to remember how to swallow. Yeah so i'd spit my food out. And like i could meet and then the next day it was fine. And that's how my panic attacks first manifested themselves. I couldn't swallow and it was always in stressful situation. If i had to fly. I would have a panic attack. And i couldn't swallow on the plane would carry tissue and spit into it on a flight the whole flight. If i went to a restaurant it was. I would have to sit near an exit if i was going to be able to eat same in a movie theater and i dealt with us for like ten years before i saw a shrinking choose like that's a form of a panic attack and also i would also manifest itself sometimes in trouble breathing not trouble but i would get this sense that i wasn't getting enough air in my ox in in my lungs which was really weird because i was taking tons of air but it just felt like nothing was going in and then when i was working at jimmy show. I started having proper panic attacks. Where just for some reason. I felt like i was going to die and wearing ever i was. I had to get out of that room and usually as soon as i leave. Whatever spot i was in there would go away. Yeah and that would happen like once every few months and then they started happening once a day and then like ten times a day to like cheese clearly. I can't go out anywhere. 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She wrote that and I hadn't done anything other than a few commercials at this point in my life. But i made a lot of dumb short films. Borrowing my friend's video cameras and it was usually shit. When i'm walking around the house with my balls hanging out of my pants dumb shit or i go to the bathroom to take a shit and it's five minutes literally five minutes of me. Just saw squeezing. And then i get up and there's a fucking can of soup like heart stupid dumb shit like that and so sarah tells comedy central. Brian perceive as you have to play his part. They're like brian okay. We don't know. Steve is no we want to hire somebody else. And she's like no. I wrote this for steve. It's going to be steve. And they're like what can we see any. I think he's on in so sarah's like put all that shit on dvd and send it to me you know. Give it to comedy. Central is like holy shit. Okay and they saw. They were like all right. This is a psychopath. We're you know hiram. And they hired me and sarah. This was the second incarnation of her show. She had originally written show for herself That she wrote with. Larry larry charles Who's very funny. People would know as producer of seinfeld writer seinfeld and the rector of the borat movie. Like a brilliant funny. Yeah established guy. Awesome dude so. She wrote a show before the sarah silverman program that also add part for me and it and it was like sarah and i believe paul rudd and kevin corrigan and myself and It was really funny and she had originally pitched that one to hbo and it didn't go and then the this thing happened allow we domino four years of the show and yeah awesome. It's it's such a funny show great. And when that wind down get canceled. I mean to sear decided. She doesn't wanna do it anymore. It kind of you know what's funny is after the second they would like wait really long periods of time before seasons between seasons and after the second season which did really well. There's just this holding pattern where we didn't know if we had a show or not and sarah demanded a meeting and she went into comedy central. And she's like look. I don't care if you cancer not. Just cancel us. I need to know if we ever shore nine she goes. I don't want to be treated like amy sedaris. Yeah because strangers with candy was never canceled. Just stop they yes. She's like. I don't want to be treated like amy sedaris. And they go who. They literally comedy central. Wow said who to quite possibly the funniest woman on the planet. Yeah who show is incredible and that's just because it was a new crop of dumb dumbs. I guess oh yeah. They're just like and she's like amy sedaris. She had a show on this channel for three or four seasons. And yeah oh yeah. Yeah oh right sure. So they're like yeah. We'll give you a third season so we did it thinking this is it. This is probably going to be it. They never cancelled us until after we wrapped so we didn't get to do a proper ending but we all kind of figured it was. The third season was last season. Yeah and and what i mean. What's that like. I mean. I know what i for me. I think a lot. That's my first acting gig. I was just like kind of crushed also. I had managers at the time we were like. Hey man this is good. That was comedy central. You're making no money. We're going to get you on a network show people know who you are now. This is a good thing cut to two years later. I haven't worked you know. And i'm just like hey man. Is that good part of me. Getting fired from sarah show. Yeah and then. I just became a character actor where i just guest starred on shows for. I'm still doing that. There was a point like a couple of years ago where i was a recurring character. I think like four or five shows that we're running like yeah you could turn on the tv and see me almost every night of the week on your the worst or new girl or American housewife for just tons of shows. That i was on it. The same and like not guest. Like recurring like guarantor and and. I just couldn't get over that peak to like my own. You know being back as a regular this past year. And that's to that kind of existence is i mean it can be well. You can be making some money and you. Can you know you can kind of be relaxed from it and but it all can get yanked out from under you and you're gonna periods where nothing fucking happen. As soon as one of those shows gets cancelled. You're like schindler. Goes some of that money and yeah and Yeah it's a crazy unstable existence and it's not like you know i have friends in the ninety s who bought houses from doing a guest star on friends or doing a commercial. Yeah they would be able to buy a bucket down payment. Yeah and now it's like no you're you'll cover your read. Her maybe two months if you do a guest star. Yeah yeah show. Yeah that be constantly working. Yeah no you could. Yeah you make got on a big national commercial could be a couple of hundred grand in now and that just doesn't it's doesn't exist anymore and part of me. It's the same thing in television in lake. You wrote on frazier for five minutes. You could get a two million dollar holding deal for a couple of three years and then does went away and people were like. Oh no that way and that was kind of like well. Yeah because that was fucked up. That was too much that was the pendulum had swung way too far in the direction of giving everybody a bunch of money to do nothing you know except have meetings so totally now Again you are friends with james gunn right. How do you know james. So i've known james now for probably about twelve or thirteen years. My friend shawny smith who is an actor who people would probably know from like backer or in the eighties. She was you know when she was a teenager doing movies. Like summer school or you know with mark harmon and the blob and shani's always worked and Summer scope or you would know her from. The people. Horror fans would know her from the saw movies. She's in all the saw movies. Like the no i for the summer school because my daughter who's fifteen went through a period a couple years ago and it was really fun of wanting to see all the shitty movies that i watched in as a teenager. Not because i watch them. She's just like. I wanna watch eighties and nineties shitty eighteen movies and that was one of them that we i've seen that movie like four times as shoddy played fragment shawny was the pregnant girl class and so shiny because of all this the horror movies that she had done. She co hosted a show. James gunn on i think. Vh1 called scream queens where they were going to find the next like jamie lee curtis or shawnee smith to do some horror movies right and one night shawny called me and she's like ham supposed to go to dinner party thing it james guns brother's house you know. Meet up with james. She's like do you wanna go with me. I don't. I'm not gonna know anybody there i to bring somebody as a yeah. I'll i'll go okay. And so we go and like i just immediately hit it off with james. It was like when i met sarah. It was just like we were goofing around and joking the whole night and then he goes. Hey man we do this every sunday night. If you wanna come back. Come back any sunday. And i went back every sunday. I love to everybody at those. Like all james as friends. Everybody there i fucking and i'm still super tight with to these day. Shahrani shoddy never went back. I kept going back and just short form. This awesome like friendship with james. And james is one of those people you know like sandler who likes to work with the same people and likes to work with his friends. Yeah long days long days you might as well surround yourself with people that you enjoy being around. Why wouldn't you do that. People are always like giving sandler shit for like. Why are you always hiring spayed or schneider. Knicks schwarzen-. I'm like because he fucking likes having them around working with them and i'm like i get one hundred percent and if i was in a position of power i would do the same exact thing i've asked people if you opened a hot dog stand and you had friends that could come and work at your hot dog stand. Would you go now know that. They haven't earned it. You know and i need to see some fresh faces that my hotdogs didn't know you just hire the people because you know him you trust them. You like being around him. I'd been in several on a few occasions. Been in movies or television shows where the intention was to hire a friend and then for whatever reason studio notes or whatever. The guys in charge. That people in charge weren't able to do that. They had to hire someone to has of some other thing always at least three times. I've had conversations where somebody like. That was a terrible mistake. I should have just hired my friend because it would have been better. Might experience would have been better and the product would have been better. That's also why a lot of directors will meet with people like you just adjust as opposed to just audition where they look at the tape like. Yeah that was a good performance. They want to meet with people. Because they're like. I wanna make sure this isn't a sociopath again. Yeah so i've worked with james now on like three or four of his movies and now one of his you know we just did a tv show together up in vancouver for seven months. Okay show is that so we did a suicide squad with two thousand nineteen to early two thousand twenty and we shot and suicide squad and then last fall like late summer. Early fall warner brothers. Ask james they said if you could do. They were really happy with the movie. It was shaping up and so they said if you could do a movie or if you can do a spin off tv series with one of these characters who had it been he said i want to do johnson and so we did. We spun off which is john's character from suicide squad. Eight episodes for a hbo. Max they'll be out in january now cool. Yeah it's really good. I mean if you like if anyone listening like suicide squad the love peacemaker. It's really funny. Oh good that's great. Yes and what do you play this. 'cause then you play the shark guy. You're like the short guy. I two jobs on that movie. I did the motion capture for king shark which was really the majority of my job. I think i think at least going into it. I had more days of work than anyone on the movie including margot like it was like. I think it was a ninety day. Shoot and i work like eighty days and It was all you know. Running around with a weird shark head frame on my head and Frene leotards or was yeah. Yeah yeah yeah leotards. Or if i was in the water i had a wet suit and it was crazy. It was a lot of fun. And then i played this guy. John economists whose actual character rector from the comic books sees the warden of bell ref prison. But in this movie. I'm kind of like one of via davis's right hand go an agent. And which is what i'm doing in the tv show. Yeah that character We'll see yeah. Because i know sean gunn. His brother Did it had a recurring role on my first show. And so i've known him and which is which show her mandy. Richard controls the universe. Sean did stuff on that show. That's what i'm saying. no. I'm saying i didn't i. Don't really yeah. Yeah yeah he did. He played a he. And there's another actor whose name is skipping. My mind and i feel terrible but andy richter no no no. I can't remember this other guys named charlie finn. Maybe i wanna say. But i'm fit. No known wasn't pat finn. But they played like frat boy pair of frat boys that i tried to impress and so i had known i knew sean and i and i met james but i you know we mostly are like online pals. Yeah yeah yeah. Oh that's well. That's i mean. It's pretty cool that you've got to do all this shit with your friends. You know. I mean yeah and you know. I've been living out of a suitcase for two years because of partially cova did the the last year. But like you know. I went to shoot suicide squad atlanta and panama. And my i was not able to sublet my apartment. And so i had to give it up and put all my shit in storage thinking. I'll come back in february. And i'll get new place and i got back in february and cova just struck and no one was showing apartments or houses and i had to hide out in a friend's cabin in joshua tree for a few months and then ricky lynn home. Let me stay at a place that she was fixing up in culver city for a few months and then the tv show happened. I relocated to vancouver for seven months. But you know. I finally back with a place in l. a. and i'm stoked was cova tough on you because your anxiety issues to cove. It was tough on me for a multitude of reasons. A yes my hypochondria but also be when i got back the very end of suicide squad while we were shooting. My mom was diagnosed with leukemia. So get back. That'