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On July fourth two thousand nine former NFL quarterback Steve McNair in his mistress Jenny Kazimi were found dead in a Nashville conduct. The police included the Jennie had killed McNair in a murder suicide, but was at the whole truth. The genyk is aiming really kill Steve McNair. I said there's no way that Ginny would pull that off from Sports Illustrated fall of titan available now subscribe on apple podcasts or every get your shows. Both offenses are unstoppable. So how will the chiefs Rams game be decided it's Houston about to go on a second half. Run. Who has the better defense biking door bears? And it seems like the Jaguars getting Pittsburgh at the wrong time week eleven is going to be a big one. And we're breaking it down on the m Huby NFL guy podcast. Hello. And welcome to 'em. QB NFL Di Di podcast. I am Gary gramling he is handy minority eighty everyone's going to be regularly so focusing on this Monday night or the Rams chiefs game which is a back in America playing in LA. This is an underrated slate of games, we time pairing this down into the great run through four games in this one. Yeah. I think the games we picked though are clearly the best games. I think it's kind of top heavy. You know, how I feel every NFL games a quality game. I watch every single one of them in love a all. But I think it's kind of top heavy slate of games this week. I really liked that Sunday night that Vikings bears. I like bears night games at Soldier Field on national TV. Yeah. Well, then I can get out of watching some of the film. Soldier field. Film is the bane of everyone around the NFL. The camera angles horrific I was trying to figure out how it would be connected to that. Because anytime you say Soldier Field is about the long grass or it's about the camera angles on the coaches. That is all you need to know about the NFL. But let's get into it here. The Monday night Rams chiefs. They're back from Mexico City because of the field conditions. They will play it in Los Angeles. It is a true home game for the Los Angeles Rams. Let's talk about the offense is oh. And let's talk about the Rams offense. I because you know, we talked about the absence of Cooper couple bit on the Monday show. You can go back in in your feet and listen to that. But this would seem to be nightmare matchup for this. Chiefs defense team that can run the ball this well out of three receiver sets. Yeah. Great point because the chiefs will play their lighter dime defense most likely now it's better dime defense on paper than it has been because they have Daniel Sorensen back. And he's there stat linebacker in dime. And then Dorian oh Daniel their mid round rookie who's really athlete and he's coming along and getting more and more playing time. So it's a different dime defense when we saw early in the season. I also think Alan Bailey defensive line has had to outstanding gains last couple of weeks. And he's always been a guy who flashes, but doesn't quite shine. I think maybe he's starting to shine when he plays. Well, it's a different looking defense. But all that said, I think you're right on there's no there's not a lot of reasons. For optimism here. The question is will the Rams stick with the run McVay? If you have a criticism of him. I think at times he gets a tad impatient. With the pass when he feels like it has to be an offensive game. He did that in the wild card game last year against Atlanta. I'm not forecasting that. But I think this game's going to be high thirties. Low forties in probably come down in that case into explosive passes which for these teams, especially the Rams those explosive passes come off of the running game looks. Yeah. I mean, I was going to say, and we'll get into this with the with the Rams defense versus the chiefs offense in a moment. But. Do you think the chiefs can basically they've gone more conservative? Can they sit back here? And basically like we talked about in the Monday show how you know how we'd Phillips has defense. And he's he's he's kind of you know, no one wants to give up big plays in the run game. But he's kind of conceding the run game to a bit can the chiefs do that. And try make the Rams put together some long drives year in sort of. I mean is this really their only hope at this point? Are you asking early hope to give up a lot of rushing yards? The scores come gradually rather than in quick strikes. That is correct. It's not as crazy as it. Sounds. What do you? What would you want to your coordinator? Would you want to force an offense like this to mount a long drive? I'm not quite sure why you would because that would keep your own offense off the field. I don't know. I mean, this is a hard one. I don't I hard. I know what I think this comes down to. And this is where I'm optimistic for both of these defenses the Rams and chiefs someone's going to make a big explosive play on defense. Just like last week with Dante Fowler on that strip strip foaming got by. Duane Brown has been a very good left tackle for Seattle this year, by the way that kind of play I was a huge play in that game it swung the score in the field position. When those two teams have been going back and forth, you have potential for that here. Kansases a little weak along the interior offense of line, especially with Mitch Morris. He's been out at center the last few weeks those guys have played well, Cam Irving and Blyth in there. They've played life is the Rams guard. Excuse me writer the center for the Chiesa played well enough, but but Donald and sue you like that matchup and then chiefs deformed injust in Houston. That's the x factor there who can get the sack fumble who can force the air ball that. Can maybe get intercepted and. Obviously game flow plays into all of this as well. If someone gets a sort of splash play early well let let's talk about the chiefs offense real quick. They had I don't wanna say they had protection issues last weekend's the cardinals. But relative to what they've done so far this year. There was a little more pressure on on patron homes in there has been the early part of the season. I mean is there anything that? You can look at it and say, well, maybe the Rams those two interior guys. Plus Dante Fowler plays a up to his potential in this game. Can can they give the chief some problems? I wouldn't. I mean Donald's going to give everybody problems every week. Yes. Best defensive player in football. And you just live with that. I've had coaches tell me just you understand going, and you're going to have about three or four really bad plays against you by Aaron donnas going to get you three or four times, and you have to survive those and play the other sixty five snaps. So that's what that will be. I what Patrick Mahomes, Gary. Is. So I trust him so much in the pocket. I think if you would've asked me even the front of the year we were seeing. Still young, but it even younger Mahomes of totally inexperienced Mahomes. And he was lighting it up. You say, well, let's see how he does. Will you continue to trust designs and stay within the pocket because that's how you stabilize an offense. Even if your protection is not holding up, particularly well, you're not you don't stabilize by running around in hoping something happens which Mahomes more than capable of making something happen when he does that. But and yet he still has the discipline the play on schedule. So I that really encourages me. I think the chiefs have the ability to whether a lot of storms because of that. And they also can have a controlled passing game because Kareem hunt and Travis Kelsey give him that dimension on screens. All right. And it's going to be a good one Monday night. We have some Sunday games as well, though. And Andy, this is this is going to be one of my favorite games of the week. Although I just don't know what angle we wanted to attack this as this is Washington and Houston Houston going to DC in this one. Both these teams you can look at them and say boy, they're sure winning by the skin of their teeth here. I mean, these are teams that. You know, they've had a couple of games. I could swing one way or another on fumbles and things like that. They're both kind of doing it in different ways, though, as as we talked about last week Washington still has not or excuse me on the money. She'll wash into still has not had a lead change in a game this year Houston is Houston is more explosive than this Redskins team offensively, certainly, but I was just crunching the numbers. I I was I was touting my my Texans numbers on the Monday show, and I keep a chart of red zone performance because I do think red zone a lot of luck. Plays into it. Typically. Yes. The patriots are good. Saints are good stuff like that. But there have been years where where the saints. We're like twenty ninth in the league and red zone efficiency and stuff like that. I think it's a it's a bit of a flukey stat. So basically, I do I measure, you know, league average again as sort of an expected performance in the red zone as far as how many points, you give up or score per red zone trip, and and sort of see who's gotten particularly lucky or unlucky. Down there as red zone performance. The Texans are minus forty four that's offense and defense over there nine games here. So you're talking about a five point swing on a weekly basis based on their horrify red zone performance. And when I say five point swing. I'm talking five points below. They are a league average team in the red zone, and they have issues offensively down there because they can't they can't create any sort of pushing the run game. But I'm not sure the I'm not sure the the defense can be quite as bad as it's been. I mean, they're one of the worst red zone defenses here. I just feel like this is a team even though the snuck away with some winds, and we've sort of said, boy, they have all this talent. Why aren't they winning more games? Aren't they winning games decisively? I think you might see that in this year. I think this is a team that might really. Let's run away with the AFC south. Red zone. I always wonder about because we've talked before if it's a finicky stat. I'm impressed that you keep red zone. Data yourself. I'm guessing you you pull that from. You're not inserting this data and tracking it by yourself. You just happen to copy and paste a spreadsheet. That's what I do. That's that science these days, Andy, that's that's how you wanna team not to nitpick. But you kind of presented it back there. Like, you were doing a lot of legwork. But that's okay. You're looking look I don't look at the red zone data super closely. Because I I'm not sure if it's reflective of how the action plays. I do. Let's let's put it on. These teams though, I do agree with your premise, and whether it's because of the red zone or other factors. I do think Houston will be better defense in the second half of the season than they were in the first half their D line is very stout. I like their corners corners can tackle including tire and Matthew outside cream. Jack, Matthew inside cream Jackson outside. There's a playmaking element to them because of. The way they're using clowney all over he's more of an interior rusher. This year it's a violent Texans front seven. And when you look at Washington's injury situation. Gary, I don't see how the Redskins have a prayer in this game to be honest. I don't know how they're all line. Even if it over cheese Bill Callahan coaching the backups are filling in across the board on Trent Williams is out in this game. And both guards are gone for the season. I don't see how you move a really good. And it's not just JJ. What's a lot of guys reader and Brandon done? Angela blacks in Texans have really good D lineman. That's a problem for Washington. Yeah. It just seems like one of those games. This is a good matchup for the Texans. It's not a team. That's going to beat you with big plays here. They really have to worry that much in the back end the seems like and look in in Washington defense, we've sort of been not writing them off. But we've had pen in hand ready to write them off. And they young they've collected six wins to this point. But you kind of look at what they did last week. I mean, they gave up we laughed about it. And we said, oh my goodness. The bucks they had a five hundred one yards only scored three points. But you kind of say the other way the score three points, but they had five hundred one yards. The bucks rolled up five hundred one yards on this on this Redskins defense. I'm not sure you're ever gonna play another team that takes the ball inside your thirty yard line six times and comes away with three points. I it's just. No matter how well you play down there. That is not that is not sustainable that is not repeatable. That game last week that you're talking about sixteen to three I think was the final score. I could see this game being somewhere like that Houston's last game was played in the teens as well. Seventeen. At Denver the defenses on both sides, especially up front. They're better than the offense is on both sides, or at least the offense of lines. We'll see I mean, look like I said you can't write washing off because of what they've done this year. But this is a tall order this. This this week here. Let's go. Let's talk Vikings bears here. Let's talk defense. This bears team, Andy I I liked it evens. I don't love them. Like I love the Vikings events though. And like I said on Monday, and I'll I'll I'll let you I'll let you have the Mike in a moment, Andy. But I don't think they can get interceptions at the rate that they've been getting interceptions at. Moment in my allowed to talk. Now. Now. I was gonna ask you which defense. Would you rather have? And I thought that's what we're going to go back and forth on it. Sounds like you're pretty clear though on Minnesota overture Kogyo now is it. I know you said you don't think Chicago can keep getting the interceptions. I think they can zone defense would play safeties back linebackers or blurry. There's a lot of eyes on the ball. Now, they have a pass rush to make the ball come out on their schedule. Do you feel is this is your predilection for Minnesota more about the Vikings or or more about doubting the bears? I have slight doubt for the bears. I like the bears. Even I think the bears is a b plus a minus defense. I just think the Vikings is in a defense. I guess a little bit more the former I just really liked the Vikings. I like the Vikings. They have a profile they played cover four which we've talked about on the show before but just for our listeners. So it's too deep safeties. But instead of those safeties rolling over the top of the Cornerbacks like in cover to the safety. Stay in the middle of the field and patrol those seem areas. So they as receivers become vertical threats against them. Everyone becomes a man to man defender. So it's a match up zone. Coverage. The Vikings in cover four, and they do a lot of wrinkles off of it now because that's what happens when you had the same guys in the same scheme for years and years, they are extremely dangerous out of that. And the big reason why Harrison Smith he when he gets on the weak side and cover four so it's three receivers to the other side. He's as good as any defender in football. He reads field. He reached a rowdy last week. I saw him in the last night last week when their last game on film. There was a case where he would even guard two guys out of the cover for just a you almost never see a zone. Offender account or any defender account for two men, it's an extremely well coached subtle defense. They're good on the back end. And then with Everson Griffen back into Neil hunter. Now having developed an inside pass rushing move member early in the season Zimmer said he'd be unstoppable. If hundred can develop that move we've started to see it. So I'm probably with you. Minnesota's defense. I take your. But I am in a little bit of a crush on the bears. Everybody knows it. It's just because they play that really bad schedule. Andy don't piss me off the I want to bring up one thing in this game. Because I I'm kind of interested. So over the years in the NFC north if you look at the offenses, you really haven't had a system, you know, the sort of misdirection heavy system like the bears run. So I I it's something a little bit different. It's not like the Vikings. I've never seen it. Because most teams do this to some extent now, but a misdirection heavy offense like this. Against a Mike Zimmer defense. I mean, does that pose any particular problems can can you sort of use them? I know this is a bit of a backhanded compliment, I type of a type of thing, but sort of a smoke and mirrors type approach and end up generating some offense against Vikings team. Yeah. I think you can't because their linebackers have been up and down in coverage in reading and reacting situations and Anthony bars still out he's actually been one of the most often down guys. But you you'd rather have bar on the field and not on the field. So been getting Eric Wilson continuing to fill in Eric kendricks is also been a little bit by his standards. He's are good players and kendricks, especially he's been a little bit spotty and some of his read and react stuff and pass defense issue. So I'm sure the bears are going to try to go after that. Because that's the alternative is your throwing the ball at Xavier Rhodes outside. You're throwing the ball. At those safeties down the middle of the field. The way to beat Minnesota is by attacking their linebackers in coverage. Tariq Coen's going to be a big factor in this game. Can I give you two more numbers for my man? Agic spreadsheet here. Andy. I suppose. So I I called a spreadsheet NFL luck and track it every year. And it's my formulas, Andy, I just wanna be clear, it's my formulas. I'm just pasting in the raw data on a weekly basis. It's like a five minute process. But I keep a couple of things one is, you know, if you are a football outsiders Almac reader, you know, about fumble recovery luck. We can talk about forcing fumbles as a skill. But as far as the ball is on the ground that is luck as to who gets it and teams tend to be fifty fifty on that. The Vikings aren't the lowest percentage of recovery rate here. There are thirty thirty five point five, but they've had thirty one fumbles in their games. They've only recovered eleven if they were fifty fifty you'd be talking about five more possessions on the season for the Vikings at this point. And and the other thing I track is opponent field goal percentage. And I split it up into under fifty over fifty and as far as opposing kickers. And again, if your kicker stinks. That's kind of on you, you should get a better kicker, but as far as Ponant kickers go you play variety over the course of the year and yell everyone tends to play some good kickers play. Some good place in bad kickers cetera. The Vikings opposing kickers are twenty one for twenty three on field goals this year there. Let's see nineteen from nineteen on PAT's. They are the third worst opponent kicker luck this year. So I guess my point is the Vikings. I think maybe you put them in that elite echelon at this point. All right. That's one area of I think potential growth for NFL defenses is the art of recovering the foam. I know it's a fifty fifty proposition wants to balls on the ground. But one thing I see every week on film. And I'm raking my brain trying to remember who it was about two or three weeks ago. One guy finally did when I'm about to suggest more teams can do which is orchestrate how you recover a fumble. Because the way you're taught and football. And I remember this from when I played in junior high. I'm sure you remember my lustrous careers eighth grade quarterback for the north junior high Vikings. I also is a two way player. I also played whatever spot I lined up on defense. You're just an ultra Rover. I was an ultra and they teach ultra Rovers and everybody on the balls in the ground. You fumble you'll get the ball. Well, so often guys on their own teams go for the ball, and they cancel each other out. And we see that to see on interceptions. Sometimes guys both goal for the ball and the wind up defending each other. I think coaches need to start dedicating time, especially and you can do it out. You wanna spend all day on it because you're right. Some of this stuff is a toss up, but the art of recovering fumbles and tip interceptions. At least understanding what the surroundings are out of your coverage is if you're in zone coverage knowing where your helped might be defense need to have more awareness for other defenders around them when they're going for the boss. See too many times guys beat each other out for the fumble in the offense winds up getting it back. Okay. That's not bad. I mean, what what you do if you are not going for the fumble. If you think you're the second man are. You just looking for an offense guy to pick off. Yeah. I think something the guy again, I wish to heck. I could remember because there's a really I think it was called back by a penalty. Anyway. So be hard to find the plays a really impressive play. But the guy that I saw that that did it. Yeah. He he basically used his bite a screen and create a smoother cleaner surface for his teammate to scoop up the ball. I think you need to see more of that. Okay. All right mobile. We'll talk to the team about it and work on that next. A next off-site here last go find who the guy that I can't remember terrible podcast hosting here. That guy that's off you weeks ago that on the penalty play. Yeah. Outstanding job. I mean right here, but it was play all over member at three tonight and all Email you and we can try to get to it later. I guess the thing about the things. All right Steelers Jaguars. Let's let's do this one. I want to focus on look we've talked about lady on a lot. And I don't see how you didn't hear lady on bell is not going to play the season's gonna take the year off. And we will we'll probably talk about a lot this upcoming off season. I do wanna talk about the Steelers offense against his Jaguars. Defense though, specifically the Jaguars events. These seems play to really unique games last year. You had the Ben Rothlisberger five interception game where maybe one or two was was his fault. And everyone just said Ben Rothlisberger is done because this box score. And I don't know what happened after that. And then they played in the in the postseason, obviously in that was when the Jaguars got out to a lean and they really went touchdown touchdown for for a good part of that game. The Steelers didn't have a problem putting up points against his Jaguars defense though last week in Indianapolis the Jaguars. We know they're talented. They blew a couple of coverages or seemingly blue a couple of coverages that that led to Eric Ron touchdowns. I don't know. I mean, a matter of people are exploiting what they do. Or is this a team that's just in sort of disarray to the point where this is happening went really shouldn't be happening during how long these guys have been playing together for at this point. It's. It's somewhere between the two and let's put it on this game. And go back to the last time. We saw the Steelers member early in their game against Carolina. Who was it that got over? There was at juju. Smith Schuster that got over the top bradberry jumped outside and Smith Schuster from the slot. Ran a sale route. And he was uncovered bradberry supposed to run with that. Everyone looks oh bradberry. Where's your head? Get your head in the game. Well, his head wasn't the game. What the Steelers did on that play? What teams can theoretically due to the Jaguars Vander stand the rules and bradberry has to take this receiver that receiver. And so they build their routes in a way that makes that very blurry for him. And you can't tell we're once one receiver begins an ends for your responsibilities in your teammates responsibilities. The Steelers are really good at that. That's zone. Beater stuff is what it amounts to in that came against that particular play on Smith Schuster came against cover three, which is Carolina's foundation. It's also Jacksonville's foundation. So when you're a cover three defense or you when you're. A predictable defense, which is what the Jaguars are. They would tell you that you're basing years success on your 'execution, then which means you're really dependent on your D line because for you to execute. You've gotta have the game being played on your schedule not on the offense schedule because he offense is drawn up plays that specifically blur in defeat. Your in this case your cover three. So you're d- line has to get the offense off schedule. So those plays don't function the way they're designed, and that's the art of football back and forth in when teams that's why football such a great game. Because if you struggle in one area, like say, your lines, not getting home. There's gonna be consequences in another area. You're cornerbacks. Get beat it's that's that's the game. They're jacksonville. By the way, this in this playoff game last year. Jacksonville had great feel for Pittsburgh's rules out of their cover three particularly with their inside linebackers and the Jags killed them with how they use their tight ends to export those cover three rules and those linebackers didn't play very well. Either respond. Bostick has been really good for the Steelers. At least by what I expected of him at inside linebacker, Vince Williams, it has gotten better every year in that scheme. So it's a better Steelers defenses time around the Jags saw when they were hanging forty. What was it forty five points on that team? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know man Jaguars really have no margin for error, this this seems like the wrong matchup at this point. Steelers are on the right track. I am. I am bullish on the Steelers again real quick that we touch on. Why I was the biggest Levy on Bill trumpeter out the member last year. I was saying he's way more valuable than girly because the scheme is running through him, and they build it around him. I after seeing James Connor I was I was wrong about that. Because Connor has been just as productive as bell. And he's doing it through the same means that Bill did they're running the same place James Connor that Iran with Levy on bell. And what I've come to realize those plays are really running back friendly. They have an athletic offensive line. And the Steelers every week they'll commit to one or two basic run concepts and that's their run for the week. And they execute it again, and again, and they usually do it really well with Connor they're doing a little bit more insight zone with bell a little bit more counter where you could let slow play it and set up his blocks patient running. But anyway, it's a user friendly line for running backs but in in the past. Game. The Steelers probably better than any defense use multiple routes to impact linebackers and underneath defenders. And so they show a linebacker a route they make them react to it. And then the running backs route releases after that and the result is linebackers play deeper against Pittsburgh, and they play more distracted. And that's why there's all these underneath yards to be had in the passing game on dump offs and quick screens and slants for running backs and Connor has filled that just fine because the systems giving the guy opportunity to do. It was not Levy on bell. Just being a creator system was a lot better than I thought. Let me ask you two things on that front, Andy. Well one's a comment and one's a question. You're not going to split out. James Connor the way you can split out me on bell. So that is one less option for your offense. I hold on. Can I jump you there? Yeah. That was that was true in September. But what they started doing lock Tober when bell split out. It was often. It was not why we think of as wide receiver, but it was often an empty formations into the slot on the weak side. So three by to set he was on the two side along with Antonio Brown was the other guy over there. They've continued to do that with Connor. In fact, they're running spread empty more than any team in the NFL. I think statistically this year. So I agree with what you're saying initially, but Connor they've gotten more comfortable with him. And now they are starting to use them that way. My other question is does Connor influence the defense the same way that bell would. I mean, if you had to treat Leon bell as if he was essentially a. Third wide receiver out there. Or however many receivers he's he's also a wide receiver. Let's put it that way. Do teams have to treat James Connor that same way. No, they don't. That's a good point. That's why I think whoever signs Levy on Bill will be getting a difference making player because of what you just said there in Pittsburgh scheme, though with all those other weapons around him. I don't think it's as big a deal with rothlisburger running that show. I don't think it's a big as as big a deal. What's also fascinating. When you think about the Steelers, and it was more fascinating with the bell being the versatile guy that you just talked about is when they run the ball they're running concepts in their passing concepts. Do not overlap a whole lot. It's not like the Rams or the Niners were at all. Looks the same than a run player panic when they line up and run. It's usually smashmouth personnel need just pound the rock when they throw they spread out and throw they don't run or throw out of those opposite formations very much which diminishes. His the return on bells versatility. In other words bells extremely versatile. But I don't think the system was actually maximizing it as much as we thought. Okay. Now, that's a good point there really low and play action to if I remember correctly. Yeah. I think they're like the bottom one or two in the league. I think it is. Yeah. All right. Well, there's a lady on bell conversation. We will have plenty of it this upcoming off season when we're talking about free agency. But he is not going to play this year before we get to the mail bag. Just a reminder to subscribe to the podcast family. If you do not already you will get Andy ni- on Monday morning. You'll get the deep dive show, which you are listening to right now, you will get the QB podcast with our breer. He's joined by Connor or and Jenny Rentis every Wednesday to. Do the news from around the league. And we had the gambling show on Friday that as myself that is Scott gramling, who's an old roommate of mine and that is Jimmy traina. We go through all the point spread and all that stuff. If you're into that. It's a really good show. It is really good show. But you kind of have to be into it. I understand that. One more that makes sense. That's that's how most good shows. You're in the listener they're into it. I would say even if you are just a even if you're just a little interested in the gambling world. I think we have a good show. One more note. This is rob from London who is eight who's a devoted listener had written in. He was listening to the podcast as his hopefully, not literally as his first child was born. But he did have a baby he asked if the baby could get a shout out. I will give the baby a shout out under the understanding that this has to be the first podcasts he ever listens to and possibly the only one undecided on that. But Dillon James welcome to the world. And enjoy this podcast. Subscribe now, and also your I just just give us money. That's all I got for you. You'll be fine in life. Let's go to the mail bag that we we got time for a couple here. Well, we got time for one real one and one that and he's not gonna like first one is from Paul would coaches prefer to give up yards else. Create turnovers or not give up yards, but get many turnovers. Would it make a difference if the coach had an offensive or defensive background? So let's I mean, this is kind of the big question. Now, we are seeing offenses become more and more streamlined and more and more aggressive across the NFL at this point, Andy, and we saw this with the Bengals last week Bengals play very conservatively. They're trying to contain the saints doesn't matter. You're just giving up twelve yard pass after twelve yard pass. And then you, you know, tear Lawson is is like, oh, and they have to figure out a new way to approach things. Cincinnati's problem is they don't have much of a pass rush. But if we're talking about sort of a generic team, you know, they have a C plus talent they have a kind of. Okay. Pass rush. Kind of okay. Secondary. Philosophically? Does it make more sense to sort of be the risk reward defensive this point? Or are you trying to just kind of hang on? And obviously, you know, offense plays into this too. But as offenses become better what what defense is do with this because I feel for so many years defenses played very conservatively and offenses kind of did them a favor by also playing very conservatively until the the rules and various other things tip so far in the offense favor that they just said, you know, let's just go out and score fifty points. I think football's favoring the aggressors now and who can make who play on their schedule. As defense you make the offense plan your schedule when you blitz and you force protection concepts mcchord aback has to react to your blitz. If I'm running a defense. I'd wanna play that way. Which is I guess it's high risk high reward. But I mean everything's high risk Jairo word zone coverage. Your won miss tackle away from a huge gain most of the time. So I would I think the idea of trying to manufacture big plays through your defense. I think that's a bigger deal now than in past years. It's interesting. A lot of people right now are talking about Tom Brady doesn't play this week. But he they have a bye. But he I guess is numbers are very low against the blitz this season. But he's also the lowest blitzed quarterback in the league teams are free go after him. So that that matters in the conversation is what do you feel comfortable doing? And so much of the stuff is quarterback driven. I just got done watching the dolphins Packers. Film Brock osweiler's guy. I wanna play against because he is modestly slow. Yes. Methodical Anson with article and slow house at working. He's both mentally and physically a guy like that. You wanna blitz them? You wanna make him react to you. You don't want to necessarily blitz. Tom brady. Those numbers are low, but he's not seeing many blitz because defense is no that the risk is much greater with him. So can I save my answers everything I want to be able to but only certain quarterbacks, and I'm comfortable is that is that fair or do we have to pick one or the other? Now, I think the fact that you said you wanna be the aggressor at this point. I think that I think that leaned enough in in one direction to be to be a legitimate answer. How's that? I'll let you off fine with it. Yeah. Well, how would you play Tom Brady? Let's start a Brady then. And it depends on your personnel. But your point now you like general personnel. Generic team. Gosh. I probably play coverage. And then try to. Catch them off guard it because I wonder if you know if Brady's numbers are low against the blitz this year is that a product of he seeing it so sporadically that there is actually an element of surprise doing extent. So I also you really have to I probably play a lot of coverage and then pick my spot, which as has gone horribly for some teams teams that have had success against Brady tend to rush three and drop eight and they show blitz. And but then they only they drop a lot of guys out of the blitz. And the those guys that look like Blitzer but dropped back. They naturally drop into the underneath crossing routes James white Julian Eshelman areas of the field. So that would probably be my approach to Brady. That's the other part that gets lost. We think do they Blitzer? Did they not blitz so much football is played before the snap in the presentation and what you're threatening and making them do. And if you show blitz and make them have to block for the blitz. But then you drop back that's even better than blitzing, mathematically, so and the stats don't capture that. So it's it's it's it's not an easy answer. It's not blitzing in not blitzing. There's so many different variables in pass rush. Yeah. Now while that. That's that's that's a weaker answer. Andy. Yeah. It's it's smarter and more nuance, and it wouldn't fit we'd or on an. On and just basil. You said is it's all a rich tapestry. That's. It is. But then he's not explain the tapestry. It is broke down the tablet and CEO as rich tapestry, that's F B skip Bayless of me. But when you can break it down. I think that was a quality answer is the best answer. We've had on any mailbag question. The last six months. Giddy fast. Why agitate take this next question's gonna be about the band? Chicago. Isn't it it? We'll find out, but I do wanna mention really quick, and I hate to send people to different mediums because I know you're listening to a podcast, and you're probably not also in front of a computer or or scrolling through your phone at the moment. Maybe our is onto your phone, but we had two articles on the QB this week that if you like this podcast. I just even if you don't like this podcast. And I can't imagine you're listening to it. If you don't, but we just and the I give these pieces the highest recommendation, if you gosh, if you just like football Jenny Renta's wrote, this one's called Andy Reid is creating football's future, and Patrick Mahomes is living it and also we had CONNER or this was from these these both appeared in magazine as well. If you do get the magazine, and you should subscribe to the magazine. Conor or was the search to save NFL defense's about? Some these strange places that NFL coaches are flocking to try and solve the problems. They're they're having with these sort of trickle up concepts and offense. So those are two really good beezus. And it kinda may be thinking when people Connor spoke to Mike Patton who obviously had two years off. And he spent some time meeting with college coaches, and sort of getting a better grip on some these new things, but I the more I think about it. I really liked the fact that the Packers are so young on the back of that defense on the linebacker level and vented back level because when you're talking about new wrinkles. I mean, these are not new wrinkles to these guys just came out of the college game where they're seeing these things all the time. So yeah. Yes. You want you want solid veteran guys. That's all good. But I think there is something to be said for having the the really young guys. In the defensive backfield at the linebacker position right now in the NFL. Yeah. That's a good point. What the Packers also do is. Because those guys play so much one on one stuff. They're able the coach is able to do more schematically with them because it's not as taxing for them as it might appear the illusion of complexities what you gave some of those defenses and Petain's always been great at that. That is that is a theme in Connor's piece last question is from Jared does Andy know what band Saul Hudson place for please in nice should say, not even the only. No, not I only know of Saul Goodman, and he's not a musician. He's a television character. He's Saul Hudson is slash Andy. You don't know slash at all oh early wasn't born with the name slash. Gotcha moment. That's I gotta say instead of instead of Dylan adding slash would have been a pretty good name there. Rob thing you dropped the ball on on that one with your first born. But. I know I'm supposed to feel embarrassed right now. But I have no just wondering if I can go like, I have not learned anything. I didn't. There's nothing doing. I still don't care about slash or about Chicago. Or any of that stuff? You learn what slashes real name was. That's something. That'll the that what it saw Hudson. Yep. That'd be a trivial pursuit question. One day or something and you'll get it plays trivial pursuit Google killed trivial pursuit. When's the last time? Anybody played that game. Why do why are you googling during trivial pursuit? That's cheating. Goes that's. Ago. People were impressed with the people who knew a lot of things a lot of stuff. But now we've got our phones Google, so we all have access to a lot of stuff. So those people don't impress us anymore. They're just a pain in the ass. We don't play games with them. I disagree. There's something to be said for recall for using your mind for turning your mind into your own little Google. I like people who can use their mind proactively just store using your mind as storage as basically a U haul of facts isn't the same as thinking constructively and being creative. All right. That'll be for next week show. That'd be a good offseason show. It won't be good off-season show. We'd have to Malcolm glad we'll on to talk about that. And that's something for him those he's he's a creative thinker, by the way. I bet glad we'll doesn't sit around memorizing fun facts. He doesn't know slashes real name while never knows. Why? Genius. Jeopardy. That say that's a rapper this show. Thanks are researchers read foster and Ryan Taylor who make it. Sound smart? Thank you as always to Shelby Royston and the guys at cadence thirteen who make sound good. But most of all thank you to you guys for listening to this episode of the QB NFL Di Di podcast, you are the best any night. We'll be back in your feet. First thing. Monday morning breakdown on Sunday action. I will be back on Friday joining Jimmy train and Scott gramling on gambling show. 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Hey, Andy grammer here. And you are listening to the good parts podcast. Xiaomi? Good. Good parts episode. Number eleven guys is really fun. This is my one of my best friends in the world. Justin, bell Doni P is Rafael on Jane the virgin, plus a director of new movie coming out called five depart. You're gonna love this episode. It's also cool because we did it as a live podcast episode. So we had a bunch of fans come to the hotel cafe in Los Angeles. And we did it in front of an audience, and that was a whole different experience. So I hope you present it it will be filmed, and you can go check it out on YouTube. I don't know if we'll put up on Facebook too. But we're going to start filming all these podcasts. So you guys can see our facial reactions as out as I like that sometimes too sometimes like listen to podcast and other times, it's fun. Just pull it up on YouTube and watch two people. So that's coming soon. And it should be out today. Actually. So look forward if you I'm sure if you look on YouTube, the good parts podcast, Andy grammer, Justin bell Doni. It'll come up. We get into a lot of awesome stuff. My favorite is his description of life after death, which is pretty awesome. So look out for that. What else we got here? It's really really sweet to sit down with not just with someone that I. Respect and 'em inspired by. But also was like, my roommate, and where my closest friends is kind of a longer episode going to be honest because at the very end we actually did a question answer with the crowd, and they asked that only Justin questions ask me questions too. So this is a longer running one. I think it's worth it. I think he'll dig it. And. Hopefully, I'm going to do these live podcast, not only in Los Angeles. So be on the lookout guys. And it's so fun to do this. I'm having such a good time. So here we are get into it. Episode eleven Justin Doni. First of all, we just got this nine Huckle is the sign. I'm like really excited about the sign. Hey, man. How are you? Hey, dude. I feel like we're really good friends. But I haven't had a good long chat with you. And we're ships passing in the night. This is really nice sit down with you. There's so many things I want anybody who's this podcast to take from you. And I wanna start with my last days because that when when we were roommates that was like the thing that really think shifted some stuff for you. Yeah. I hold on. I want to take it back one second. Okay. How cool is it that we were roommates and like homeys and struggled like all of the exact same time. Yes. And and there's a moment. Even the fact that there's more than three people here. Like wanted to come. There was a little bit of a line. You texted you text text ten thousand people, but somehow you do anyways. But how crazy is it that like we could even like people even care what it's unbelievable. One of the things that Justin did for me. He was one of the first guys I met when I moved to Hollywood. And he he was on his show. And he was like he looks like a movie star. He always did. So I get down, and I have this friend now, and we were running. He was trying to teach me how to work out, whatever. And we're on treadmills. And he looked me in the I remember this you probably even remember saying this. He looked at me. I had nothing going on like I was street performing we're now. I remember we right here. Twenty five I was stupid for me. I was like slinging CDs on the street. Trying my hardest and I there wasn't a lot of prospect in my future at the moment. And this cool guy from Hollywood look me in the eye. And he goes like if I could buy stock in you. I would. Dude. I feel the I to this. Oh, I was like oh my God. I need that. So bad right now. Thank you. So very few that I've ever believed in as much as I believe in Andy grammer and eve anyway, and I think that's the most important thing about like, really good friends. Is that even when you can't see yourself? They see they see you. They remind you of your purpose. So I saw okay. So you were you had been on everwood, and you had this kind of like rise. And then you had this moment and immediate drugs like. Only when you're close you gotta drought. And I was with you through it. And I remember you like kind of creating this idea of my last as out of it. And it was something that you've been banging on the door the acting door for while. And it wasn't opening the way you wanted it to and you just decided to go the directing route. What what do you remember how that came to you? Or what what the, you know, the origin story of my life days of all miles as tall. So my last days is a documentary series where I travel the country, and I tell stories of incredible people who have a terminal illness, but are just living beautiful lives. And it's. Actually, and I are both behind and that's one of the ways we became friends and it's rooted in behi-, quote, where says I've made death messenger of joy for the. Wherefore dos thou grieve idea that like how could that be joyful, and the one thing that I've known about it is I've always been someone that's been strangely drawn to people before they pass. So I think we spend our lives trying to forget that one day. None of us are going to be here physically here anymore. So it's like we distract ourselves with the world. And we forget that like one day we're going to die like we were born. And then we have somewhere that we're going, and we don't always think about what happens afterwards side of my how can be joyful has always kind of like how does that work? No matter how deep your faith is like how does that work? And I know you obviously have had some pretty intense experiences with it, and as have I and so I wanted to create something that helped us remember like that while we're here we should really live and what better way than to like literally remind ourselves that one day. We're not going to be here. But what's interesting about that show? Oh, tying it back into our friendship. Was that was like the lowest of the low for me like I had had everything stripped away at that point. And I'll never forget. And this is an Andy grammar story that I was in. We we live together at the time and his room was like like across the hall, and he was always like playing music and his life was good and happy, and he was torn and everything he's just about to blow up, and you could feel it's like volcano before it erupts, you could feel that his career was just going to go through the roof. And I was now having the opposite experience of sinking deeper and deeper and deeper and trying to figure out how what am how am I going to like get through. How am I gonna pay rent cars? Do you? Remember, the car thing was I liked by by cheap car, and then like lipid on Craigslist. And then flip it again and flip it again. I'm pretty sure that's not you're really. Until until I got sued, and I never did it. Butts. Andy came over to me, and he gave me a card in that card was a check for five hundred dollars. And he said, I believe in you. And I love you. And it's a gift for me to be able to give this to you. And that was how I paid rent that month, and it was right around that same. It was that month or the month after that I was sitting in the room, and it just came through me. And I was really my last days show about living told by the dying and for me like that was what I needed to like remind myself like hold on a second. There's so much more to life. And so I started the show my house went into foreclosure, remember that and. Mine tire life changed because it was like it was I realized that my gifts could be used in a way that could really help people help mankind. So so we had me on the show. I don't know if you've seen the show, I he called me. And he's like there's. Elliott. Yeah. He's like I need you write a song for this lady. Who's about to pass away? I'm like oh shit. So I did. Well, she loved him and her son loved him. They would they would watch on dancing with the stars every night. So it was in every episode was designed in a way where we gave one person beautiful experience that money could never buy them. And you were the experience of that. It was just an unbelievable unbelievable. What have you learned? Now having done so many episodes. What's the are there? Some major takeaways about living that you learned from these people that are passing away like most of them are not not Muslim. But a lot of them pass have passed away. Yeah. Taxing on your heart becomes so close to someone. And then they pass away. There's two sides of it one is I desperately need therapy. Because it's like, you you in some ways, it's like being a it's this weird thing where you you knowingly fall in love with someone who's going to die. But if you think about it, it's not different than any of us. They just know when. Yeah. So it's like we we separate ourselves from people with terminal illnesses as if we don't have one. Lorne terminal. Yeah, we just convince ourselves that we're not and that tomorrow is gonna come. And that's the one thing I've learned is that every single one of them. It's like, not don't sweat the small stuff. It's like make your life a beautiful piece of art. You have the chance you don't have to find your dying to start living all of these things that, you know, the poets and the religious teachers from millennia teaching us or manifest in these people. But it shouldn't take us having to like get sick to start living the lives that we wanna live. And then we can be proud of. And that's what they say is like you don't have to you don't have to be like me. You don't have to find out you're dying start living. And that's of like, that's the one thing that I've learned and the other thing that I've learned is when you surround yourself with that many people. And you're texting with them and they become like family like it never gets easier. No matter how much I meditate on it or pray about it. Or think about it? The pain never gets easier when you lose somebody. And and I think that's one of these strange gifts like in about life is it's supposed to hurt the difference is like can it? Can it be a beautiful thing at the same time? Yeah. Ooh. And has that you're about to release coming out when the five feet apart movie coming five feet apart comes out March twenty second twenty nineteen? So did did that spur out? It's like, so it is a love story of people that can't be together. Just as a feature film coming out the first time, he's directing a feature film give it up for him. Holy shit. It's awesome. Starring he tells a little bit about it. Yes. Kid that. Nobody's ever heard of. I hope he makes it one day. Cole sprouse in it. And. Yeah. It's just as beautiful story about two kids with cystic fibrosis that can't touch because of their their illness. And it's this exploration of love like what if you couldn't touch the person that you love the most? Because I think we need to be reminded of how frigging lucky we are like be able to just be this close to each other to hug our spouses, or parents or whatever and a real thing, it's like a real illness. It's not like a there's no one better to direct this movie after you've just done you're on your fourth season of my last days. Yeah. Yeah. Like the emotional intensity to bring that into to make this. I need to do happier. Comedy stuff. Some of my favorite times like going backstage on tour with Andy because everything is just so happy really like awesome musicians like playing happy music all the time. And I'm like, all right. Where does this? Where does this thirst for being around such like rich, emotional stuff? No, I feel like I'm just a true seeker, man. And I just think that. In the by faith. We talk a lot about like the veil that is this world. Right. Like this. None of this is real right? And if you're not spiritual than the easiest way to look at it is if you think about it like the matrix, right? Like, none of it's real. It's just all designed to distract us. And I just have always had this like thirst for wanting to know like truth and reality in like, what are we really think? I'm not good at small talk. It's why I love the good parts when that's on came out. I was like oh my God. All right. It's my first date with my wife, who's here we talked about we talked. We literally talked about the afterlife and death for like an hour and a half. And it was that was a breakfast. And then on our actual this is really this is really screwed up. But on our actual first date. We went to a cemetery because there was a celebration of Thornton chase. It was the first American by two hundred happy people, but I literally took it to a cemetery. Where are you taking me? Why are we doing? But I, but but what happened from that? Is you really get to know a person? I don't care, you know. And you sing about this all the time so preaching to the converted. But like, I don't like it's great. What shows you like or what you're into? But I really wanna know who you are. And I think for me like we have so much time on this planet. What's really going on? I wanna I wanna see I wanna see who the wizard really is. I don't know. I think so I think that's a part. I mean, we usually wait to the end to get to this specific question. But it's right on right here. So what is what do you think happens when you die? Because even say like, oh, you keep going. What does it actually mean though and having been so close to all these peop- like, so where are they? So I'm gonna use it analogy that also comes from our faith. And it's this idea that birth and death are the same. And as parents now, it's I think it's easier to think about you know. So when when we're born right? We're in the womb of our moms, and we have everything that we could possibly need, right. We have safety. We have security. We have comfort. We're getting fed like we are in our own universe. Our own matrix. And the entire time. We are co-existing in two places at once. We're both in our own universe. Right. Where we're super happy and content. We're developing things we're developing our eyes and ears. All these things. We don't need where we are. And then at the same exact time, literally an inch away. We are here at hotel. Cafe right? And can you imagine trying to explain to like the baby in the womb that there's two people that are talking using vocal cords that have not been developed yet. And then there's a neon sign here and just outside this room. There's like, clouds and sky and the solar system in a universe and assign and there's a Hollywood sign like there's no like you could never ever ever explained that to this embryo that's growing in this womb yet, they're in the same place there one in the same. And what we're told as you go through this process of you're in the womb spend nine months in the womb, ten months, really. And you're developing these things and then one day when you you don't know when you die of the womb, you die through very uncomfortable process. You are thrust out of that entire world that you know, you go through a tunnel. On the other end of the tunnel is light and your met by people who've been waiting for you, the entire time who love you so much so much in a way that you could never comprehend right? You're it's warmth. It's light. It's it's the exact thing. And then here, you are you're with your parents with these people, and suddenly you need all of these things you were developing in the womb the entire time. You had no use for your eyes when you were in the womb. But suddenly, you're is allow you to process you had no use for your taste buds because you were being fed through an umbilical cord, you need all these things the behi- belief in what I believe happens to us after we die as we go through this this process on this earth ninety years eighty years if we're lucky for summit shorter, and we're developing things as well. We're developing our spiritual arms and legs and eyes and ears. And those things come in the form of patience and forbearance, and kindness and trust and honesty, all these virtues all these things that we don't realize we need, but we need when we get tested are things that I believe we believe those arms and our ears and our eyes of wherever we're going next, and then one day were thrust out of this world, and it'd probably uncomfortable process, right? And hopefully, we're also then met with love from people and soles that have been waiting for us the whole time because we've only been an inch away. And we're just right there next to this entire universe. And Paolo explains it to us in the faith like this. And it gives me a lot of comfort to know because I have experienced so many so many little things where I'm like, there's no possible way that that there's no way that that could have been a coincidence. Somebody just did that. And it's like how it's like somebody from the other side. I got the baby was like singing to me and was like talking. Me, and like, I could hear something, and this magical thing, and I'm like, I know there's somebody that loves me over there. That's like trying to help me in assist me. And I know you've experienced those things too. And and it's just it's comfort, and again, nobody can be totally sure. But that's like that's what I believe is it so funny. It can be that. Or you just did. Very very fair options. But I literally it's the scribe everything you just said, and I I love to live that way. And I genuinely believe it. But we are we're put here with like, you don't know. Good luck. Or we could have we could ever on planets. This one makes the most sense to me to me, it makes the most sense to. And I think that you know, I was I've been talking about this analogy a lot lately that it's like we're here to play the game monopoly, but the points have nothing to do with how much you get all the points. Like how you're treating everybody while you're playing, and you actually live your life that way, and you that's why the afterlife is such a fascinating thing to me. Because if you do believe in it, then you could then you can like really think that maybe the point system isn't the correct point system that we're using that's the test. Yeah. The point system is really the test. Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting. I could talk about this all day. That's the point. That's. Something that I wanna ask you for anybody else. Low closer lo lower. Is your someone that just and we're gonna talk about more of them? But you do so many things, you know, you've like. You're an actor director you've done apps. You're you're really good at somehow coming up with a crazy idea, and then actually executing on it. And I know that there's so many people who are listening right now that are talented and smart, and they have important things to bring to this world. And the process of getting that out of yourself into the world is freaking hard. And I'm sitting next to someone right now. Who's really amazing at it? What advice would you give someone's listening? Who's like, I know that I I'm -ticipant or I know that I have a business any start. I know that I know I have something offer. There you before my last days. How do they get from there to now? That's that's a hard question. There's a few different parts to it. One. Is I feel like there was a lot of times in my life. Where I thought I was ready when I wasn't interesting and. And I been that person. That's like I'm ready to give the world everything. Reality. I wasn't I needed to go through some some pain and some heartache and some struggle, and it's through that struggle in that heartache and kind of reaching rock-bottom, I think that you really get the tools necessary to be able to to give the world all of your gifts. That's like the first part of it. Okay. It's like the idea of you have to go down before you can go up like when you jump like, you don't just get to like you have to go down the narrow has to be pulled back before you let it go. It's that it's it's and we don't always think about it that way. And I think we're also living in a time where everything is like so on demand, and like everyone wants it now, and everything's instantly inst- a cart into this since this. Now now now now now, and I think we're forgetting there's no such thing as overnight success. Like, you know, I was acting for ten years before I got Jane the virgin. Yeah. Right and five four years, I had stopped acting because it was impossible or having my first feature film, come out. But what was the first music video directed for you, very longtime very directed back home, which is probably my favorite music video home, miss me. You know, like we just so that's one of the other the other is I think we also talk ourselves out of cheating greatness. And. There's something I think we are. So afraid to show up who we are. And like give the world like are true gifts, and we talk or selves out of it because we don't know how it's gonna make someone else feel and we're also afraid of being rejected, and we're frayed of what if it doesn't work. And I think we spend more time in the what if it doesn't work than what if it does. Yeah. And if we if we just kind of four live, they're more like a ton for me. I don't think about it either way until right beforehand, and I go oh my God. Like, oh, yeah. Let's go to a podcast. Wait. Why are we doing a live podcast? We can't record anything. Wait. We have to be super intimate in front of a group of people that are watching us. And then it's like right before I'm like, oh, there's people in the audience. This is going to be awful. It's the same thing. It's like before my tedtalk. Right. Ted talk and at first I was like, oh, yeah. That sounds great. And then you just do it. And then you realize week beforehand. Did it could be not only could become like an awful thing. But it could literally set back the entire women's movement. And ruin everything in the same thing with the movie, it was like one of the worst experiences of my life because I was just like dealing with so much stuff and this could fail. And if it fails I'm going to ruin his career and her career, and I'll never and but I don't live in that until it happens right gift. So I try I do everything I can do everything I can't and not think about the possibilities that I could crash and burn until right before. And I think that's the only reason why able to do a bunch of things because because I don't have honestly in my opinion. I lot of talent I have a lot of willpower. And I just believe that anything's possible talent. I don't think natural talent not at least nothing like you. Okay. I was your roommate? True. So is that I know when I sign on to do it that it's going to be really difficult, and I just go like, yeah. I just tried to get my level of. Understood like the level of creative. Pain tolerance is just high. And I live in it all the time at a high level, and you know, you have friends that work out harder than others and mine is like people are gonna I'm stupid a decent amount of times. And I'm just gonna try to get with that. I think for both of us. We get to the same place, except we just have different processes totally minds just kind of blind optimism until the reality sets in and then it's just straight depression. My wife can tell you every time, I do a speech or everytime. I just constantly putting myself on the razor's edge of failure. Yeah. You are. And so terrifying. And everyone's like, oh, oh, just like, no, no. You don't understand anxiety straight up depression? Sometimes this awful. Why am I doing this? I would be so much happier. If I just owned a recipe in the moment. But I've seen you you probably will end up doing that. In the moment. I've seen you do have you kind of like it. It's like seen you on a video shoot. Oh, we didn't so many the jacket. It's like, oh, there's no jackets here and just hold up run up to a door and like knock on the door and somebody shows up and they're like who's beautiful, man. He's like, I need you. Jackie. Take normal for you. You live on the edge. And it pulls out like amazing things. It's like my version. I guess it's my version of like being an extreme sport junkie like a. Yeah. But it's that's what I'm getting at. I think yes, there's something there for sure where I thrive in. In this kind of pressure that I put on myself to create things, and I I like to think of it like magic loved to create magic. And the problem is that I believe what allows me to create magic is my connection with spirituality and God and. All of these things and my fear because I don't believe it's really me. Is that what if it doesn't show up one day? Right. So it's like, okay. I'll pray and I'm like, okay. I know it's going to be okay. It's gonna come through me. 'cause I don't actually have the confidence to do any of this stuff as just Justin. I don't believe for a second. That just I can really has anything to give. I think that threw me things are channeled. And the right words are put into my mouth at the right time the fear. There is that I don't as Justin have the confidence. But I have confidence in God. And then what if that one day? God is too busy doing something else. I think about all the time. Why does God care about me? Like look at our world. But I leave. Here's what's so good about one of the reasons I started podcast is because for me, I used podcasts so much I need to hear on like a weekly basis people that I respect talk about how much they fail. I need to hear it. I need to see it before. I just so that I know when I'm going to start something new that to be scared shitless and sure that it's gonna fail. That's your there. You've begun my friend like so that's why it's really nice to hear you talk about it that way that every time you go to do something you're you're scared, and I'm so happy that you're doing this. Because I remember as we were both kind of coming up together experiencing success at different times. You had said something to me that always repeat. And you remember you said that the hardest. The most difficult part of jumping is just that I like in the ground, and I don't even know if you remember telling me that, but like sunk in, and it was just like getting something off the ground like getting that I note of song or like that first idea of something or whatever it is is the hardest part of starting anything because that's where all the resistance happen. We're gravity is. And that's so I'm happy that you're able to do this and give that to so many people because I got to see you in your room literally singing for hours straight like I remember, I'll never forget. Had just gotten. I just got dumped. And I was I had no home I was homeless, and I had no money, and I came over and I slept on Andy's couch for like two months as I was trying to get my life together. Anyone who's ever heard the song me it was about this gentleman right here? And then I I got to direct video directed the video that was then my girlfriend got starring and is now my wife also it's like look at me now. Little bit. But I will never forget like I'm sitting there. I brought over my computer. I was editing like a music video that I had just directed for like five cents, and I was eating like whatever ninety nine cent like potato skins the Ralph's on the brea, and Andy was in his room for hours and hours and hours every single day. Just singing getting biggest man down writing. Biggest man. And like every time I hear biggest man, I get that little bit of because because I go right back to that like, but I knew I was blown away. I've never seen anybody work so hard, and it was huge for me. Because it made me realize like, wow, I haven't put in ten thousand hours. I haven't had ever worked as hard as Andy working on this song, and I can remember. And then I could hear the beginning of the song. And then the end, and how it how it changed, and how your voice got changed and got better. And then over the course of the time. I was like, wow, you've really literally mastered your craft which is so much more than most of us can say huge for me. I know you're never gonna fill. You mentioned your crap. Like that was a huge thing for me at that time in my life to see you just all day long. Putting in the work as used to call it, the humble, hustle hustle, baby street performer for life. I want to talk about Jane, and how fun it is to be a part of when you do art for a living. It's still really rare. You get to be part of something that good has crazy. And and that came from how did that come to know explanation for any of these things that are happening? I can't like I won the lottery. Yeah. Really? It's you might as well as you might as well ask a lottery like a lottery winner like so what did you do? I bought a ticket. Like, I'll never forget. I was I had given up acting to focus on directing these documentaries. I was I was brand just got married, and and I asked I had no manager or agent, and I had asked Emily to introduce me to her manager because they had a directing part of the company, and of course, like being my wife, she, of course, baby anything. So I went I met with them. And I showed them my last days, and I showed them all these things. And then they were like, yeah, we love it. Let's do it. And if you ever want to act like, you know, we'll send you conditioner to. And I said, yeah, it would be amazing. I kinda miss it. Like once a month and two weeks later, they sent me Jane, the virgin, and what was crazy was Emily just on dishing for the role of Petra. And I remember reading we're in bed, and I was reading her audition sides with her, and I was like reading the description of Rafael was they describe him. And I was getting jealous. If you get this who's this guy, this guy who's this guy going to be never thinking in my ever that that description could ever be me. Right. And then flash forward they couldn't find him. And somehow it just happened. And then of course, it got picked up, and then it went to series, and then got picked up again, it became this little this little lightning in a bottle show that has done so much. I think for women and women of color, and and kind of changing or industry to become so much more intentionally inclusive, and then you, and then you actually have direct and episode which is the craziest full circle. So last year, and it was so cool, and what was crazy about? It was the episode I directed. So I was supposed to direct the third episode of the season. But it was right before our son was born. And it was the son was born. There was the Ted talk. It was just everything was nuts. And that was about home birth, which was hilarious because we had this. We were very much like home birth advocates in some ways. And that didn't work out. So the episode I directed ended up being of course, about the Amar's cancer storyline. And it was just so sweet that I got to bring everything that I had learned in that world in like transferred into like, this this this show that I love so much. And it was crazy. This is crazy ways. Yeah. It's fun to see. Say they'll being weird. You're you're good looking. Okay. And sometimes. I don't just say that from like, I think he's looking. Yes, he's very good looking. But when you're friends with someone who's saying this, I so long the first time, it's the first time we met we hang out. He's like you want to go to the beach. I'm like, no. And so when you around him and the way the world treats him. Is different than most guys. I know let's just play that out there. And so also what happened? I sat by being roommate of yours watching the world cast you and see you as like, you're the Huck. I we get it. And to see you the way that you've now what you're known for who you are is just so beautiful that you're like known as the guy who is is under the virgin, did my last days gave this incredible tedtalk that I want to get into does the homeless stuff that you've been able to it was like a gift and also like a thing that you had to work through thing. Because first of all, I don't see myself that way and as Emily my wife can attest. It's a I'd even did an episode of man enough. We'll talk about body image and Dismore shooting. I was bullied as a kid. And I never thought that. I was good looking and I never ever thought that I could be an actor because I associated actors with being like my first my first meeting in Hollywood, I was twenty years old. I had this manager who took me to to a meeting at an agency. And this agency was known for like having all the best looking people in LA. And I will never forget. It was twenty we left a great meeting. And he told me he called me the next day it again, I wanna tell you the feedback. Essentially, the agent called him and said, you know, I only represent good looking people. He told me that messed up. Let's let's like that's just but he told me, but that was that was my I didn't for a second go, wait. But I'm, but I am it was like, oh, no. Yeah. That makes sense. And it wasn't until I moved to Hollywood. And they started sending me on roles where the description was like hot than I ever thought that that could be true because wasn't how I saw myself. You know, my nose grew before everything else. I have my eyebrows. I it was just you know, I I like the beginning roles. You got we're that right? We're what we're we're like Hawkeye was sure. Kind of like male escort number one. And then from my position watching you. It's like cool. That's not who is those. That's not gonna work. And what's funny about it is that it's not who I am. But I think that that's something that I've realized now is that that's not who any of us are totally in. And that's that's kind of one of the ways I realized that there was an issue in my opinion masculinity because I started realizing I was being cast as these individuals, and then I started realizing that all my way to my and my personal life to I'm also playing these roles. But anyways. Yeah. So at least means I wanna talk about this. Ted talk is unbelievable. If you haven't heard his Ted talk. If you're a guy if your girl both sides to hear it. It's unbelievable. It's talk about masculinity. Just like in general, and you want to get a little bit of the tear, most terrifying. Nailed it. It was it was awesome. So scary. I remember texting you just telling you how terrified it wasn't saying. I was like, please, send your mom. But it kind of it kind of came out of some of those gatherings that we were having right. Yeah. I think it came out of a lot of stuff it came out of. Some from the proposal, and like this the reaction of one I propose to Emily, and they went super viral, and and people couldn't believe that a man, I guess looked the way that I did or that would be willing to make that much of a fool of self dance or saying reject because I was really making fun of myself throughout the whole thing. Yeah. And then I remember being at the gym when I lived in Hollywood over there on Easton's, and this huge big buff guy came up to me after which is like, hey. You propose your wife? Yeah. Maybe cry. Anybody super-secret way where he didn't want anyone else to hear God, Betty cried? And I realize like why do we have to as men love these things in secret? And why is it so weird for so many women to like see a man, and what I saw was so many women putting me on a pedestal that I did not deserve to be on. And I went there's a problem here. Why why are we looking at this thing that I did or me as the exception to the rule when in reality like, I know, so many amazing dudes that would do that for their wives or different things for their wives. So many open men, and I see you're so many women constantly say like, we're all the good men. And I'm like, there's so many good men. Why are you hiding good men? Why are you pretending not be good men? I think that was the beginning of my exploration of figuring out. What the hell's wrong, there's something? That's not adding up. And I don't know if it's like this idea that nice guys can't win or not supposed to be nice guys or were afraid we've been we've also been socialized to like not cry and not show, our emotions, and I know you, and I are very like we're a little bit of an exception there when I do cry. I still the whole time my body. I've now got my head to the place where I'm like, I'm cool cry. Oh, my body's still no, no do it. You're you're specie. He literally is like it's fine body like chill out just cry. I don't know. How was that? Same thing. Maybe it's like, I don't know if it's like this for you in like, your dad is an example. But you know, I'm now a dad, and I'm holding my son, and I wanted to smother him and kiss him and all these things. And now, I'm thirty four years old, and I had these moments where my mind is like go cuddle with your dad and my body's like don't move. Or like I wanted to send sometimes even with me and another man like, we're good friends. Like just looking the other man in the eye for more than like, ten seconds or seconds. Or while you're talking it's hard for some reason. And there was no explanation for why? Except that we have been socialized to feel uncomfortable being intimate with each other and intimacies a whole big topic. But with men like men are so frayed to be vulnerable with each other. We're so afraid to open up and show our weaknesses because again, we're like we grow up thinking that we have to be the ALPHA's. We grow up thinking that like we have to grow up and be the leader of our tribe in the king of the castle, and we have to do all these things. And if we show another man God forbid that we're struggling or that, we're addicted to something or that we're weak in one area or that we're or we don't have any money, and we don't know how to pay rent, then our entire gender is gonna disown us. And we're not going to be able to let those are the stakes are that one of the reasons why mail sue. Side is so much higher. Like, it's it's a it's a growing. It's because we don't know how to seek help. And we'd rather figure it out ourselves. And we learned that generation Lee, we learned that from our dads. We'll learn from their dad's earned it from their dads. And now, it's like, we're realizing that doesn't work for us anymore and their space and there's room for fluidity. That was all part of it. And I was all part of my and my whole talk was just me having this kind of like open crisis in front of millions of people. That was like, I don't know who I am. Yeah. And I can tell you have never been made enough, and I probably won't ever be man enough. So why am I even trying to be man enough? What is man enough even mean, and some of my favorite qualities about myself are the stereotypically feminine ones. And you know, I just I just think it's all weird is awesome. And you really took like a whether think we started at your house where we would go and sit with a bunch of guys in your living room. And even just the the question. What does it mean to you to be a man sitting with twenty other dudes together is very profound question. And where did you learn what a man is hearing everybody answer it, and before you know, it. Everybody's like uncovering Razi shit. Crazy. Oh, well, I learned from my dad did this thing. So I think this, you know, but it's really important work to be done. And then you have this whole other like the man enough. Round the the show on line is awesome too. That's also important. Just we wanted to model like deep intimate conversations with men, and I really believe if we can fix the masculine issue, we could fix the like the issue that men have with each other. I think we can fix every problem that exists in the world. I can't think of an issue that doesn't start with in some way like us. And that's a weird thing. I know. But like, I can't think of a massive world issue. Yeah. Like, and it's probably stupid. I don't know. I just can't imagine a world world run by women where we would conquer each other and just kill everybody for you know, for like money. I just I can't imagine that world. I think that so much of that is rooted in this this I- this masculine idea that we have to win everything. So how do we fix it? So this one of the things you've done to me as you will text me saying, you're going through something which I appreciate I haven't done. It yet bullshit I go through plenty things. And I haven't reached out to you begin. I think I don't know why we look man roomies says it's like it's not personal seek for love. But seek the reasons why we build up all the barriers against it. Right. I don't know why we build up these barriers and we make it so hard for ourselves to do. The simplest easiest things. It comes back to we have been trained to to like say that we cannot ask for help. That's the only thing that comes. We've been socialized to be the lone ranger to be the Marlboro man to be like the guy that runs off like rise off on the horse and this enters into the sunset like in the western, and we we don't know how to do it. And we feel like we do it. We're betraying our gender or something this thing. It's funny to watch. We we've done it my house to where we had thirty guys in a circle doing talking about this and sir. People that are not open to it yet. You can watch them come in and go like, I feel very. I don't like this. I don't like this. And then like an hour in. They're the sweetest ones that have things to share one open up and talk, and it's almost like a cliche of itself at this point. So it is. But it's just true. It's just there that got there are a lot of guys that have trouble with that first barrier of being like, but that's all that. How do we actually connect with? But I have trouble to. Yeah. You have trouble. And I don't think there's any man that doesn't have trouble. And that's what that's one of the things that's important for me to say. I'm the guy that did the Ted talk. And I'm the guy that has the man enough show. But I am not an exception here. I am struggling with the exact same things. Every single one of my male friends. The difference is I'm like making myself uncomfortable. So that I can be better. Yeah. I'm literally using this this fake idea of fame. So that I can try to become a better man because it pushes puts the pressure on myself. Like, I can't I have to try. It's so much easier to just like accept that things are the way they are and to just become complacent. So. So I'm literally just on the edge saying all right, this sucks. Every time. I look in the mirror. I feel like shit. I should probably talk about it. Because somebody else feels the same way. Then you realize that everybody feels the same everybody even the guys that are posting shirtless. Pictures of themselves every day on Instagram that make me feel inadequate. They feel the same way. Otherwise, they wouldn't be in the GM all the time doing it. But nobody nobody realizes that. It's like this this these fake ideals that we just make ourselves believe are, okay. And really we're all trying to figure out how to get through. We're all trying to figure out it make ourselves feel like we are good enough. And that's an important. 'cause that's what I guess. That's what I'm just trying to do. Talk to me about we both have a very unique love for. Helping the homeless and your carnival of love is one of the coolest things like one of my favorite things ever with coming up soon. January twenty six you have too many volunteers ready. No, yes. But that's totally. Okay. Okay. Everybody's welcome. Everybody's welcome sign up. So let's talk about it. I four tell them that. So the carnival of love is a day of human kindness is your birthday. It was started around start around birthday. The true story is that the carnival of love would not exist. If it were not for my friendship with Andy grammer. So the thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of people over the last five years would they would have not been helped and seen and heard in love had it not been for you. Because one day you decided on your birthday to make food for the homeless, and you invite all of us over, and then we made and then you pass them out. And I thought that's it. That's what I've been wanting to do forever that was like twelve years ago. So you should McDonald's. Remember that? Yeah. And then we all made all these support. So we these like really cheap to Ralph's and got like peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and telling just about it. And just like, oh my God. Totally. So then Justin shows up with bad ass. Mcdonald's. Like a bunch of everybody. We it was like. If dollar dollar menu crazy at McDonald's, that's another. That's the first level of wealth. When you're really poor. Then you get to go to like a Taco Bell or McDonalds, and you go to everybody like, it, whatever you want. So true. But but I remember that moment because I was one for birthdays. I was always felt uncomfortable saying come celebrate me. And it was like it clicked this. It was like you doing that. Is it opened up my eyes, and I went that's it. That's me. That's exactly what I need to do. That's what I wanna do from now on. And so every year I started doing it. And I started inviting friends and turned into a bigger thing and a big thing and thirty people and forty people and people and then when Jane the virgin happen knowing kind of the way that Hollywood works like this perceived idea of coolness based on whether or not you're on a show, or you have followers or a celebrity. I said, well, why don't we try and experiment and see if we can use it to get people to show up to skid row. So we created this carnival. I was like what did we through a carnival carnivals are generally things that come to pretty like middle American towns to like give them a day of like forgetting that life is hard. And you know, you eat really shitty food and like go on go on things that make you then throw up the shitty food. And I was like well what we could do better. So we created this carnival. And the idea was really like this kind of group think effort where okay, let's get as many people as we can to show up. Bring close bring food bring high hygiene products bring books bring anything that. You don't need in your life anymore. Bring it, but that's not gonna change anything. What's going to change? Things are the way you interact with the person you give it to. So we thought let's create a day where it's just, you know, all of us are going to see we're gonna hear we're gonna love on these people that are so often forgotten do behind the by faith. He says tell the rich of the midnight sign of the poor. And it was such a profound thing. Like here. We are in the hotel. Cafe we're all doing, okay. But like just a few blocks away and even outside. There are people that have nothing that at night when we're being on our beds are sighing because they just are struggling with addiction. Whether they're on the street for because of their own choice or whether it's because they don't have anybody else. They were born that way. And it's perpetual. So we thought if we can just love people than that could be like the other part of a solution. You know, politics aside like you gotta fix things through legislating you need enough housing for the homeless number one. But they also need to be seen in they need to be loved. So that first year was an experiment. It was awesome. And then it grew and grew and grew and as my like dealer celebrity grew so did the carnival. And and now it's become this pretty incredible thing where we had like last year we had one hundred and eighty different service providers from LA like we became a hub for all the non who are competing with each other that don't talk to each other to show up in one place and provide services that these amazing people can't get otherwise. So it's like a it's like a job fair medical fair dental fair either getting ID's, there's like these because that's one of the things you can't get off the street unless you have an idea, but you can't get an idea unless you have money to get to the idea or all of these different things we're trying to solve some of these problems for them. But more than that. It's a. A one on one experience where you get paired up with somebody that you may probably never meet or just ignore walk by in everyday kind of situation, and you get to talk to that person. And here that that person is human just like you and maybe through that experience friendships can be born. And that's how we can get people off the street. Yeah. There's a foot washing station, and there's so sweet to see. Friends of mine are I got to do as well like someone is homeless, and and you're literally below them while you're washing their feet. It's a beautiful beautiful thing. But it comes from the bible. It's like Jesus did that. Yeah. Like, and again, I keep going back to like our faith in the by the highest place, you could ever get to is the lowest is what we're told. There's nothing more beautiful than sitting down and washing. Somebody's feet who has not been touched in. God knows how long and like talking to them and seeing them cry and just experiencing that with them. And this was the first year that actually Emily, and I got to do it. Because the last four years we haven't been able to. Yeah. So. Yeah. So our goal this year is we're trying something totally different. Okay. And we're going to look for one hundred people and those one hundred people were going to ask to commit to one year of being friends with one person that they meet on the street. Also, raise a little bit of money, and I'm gonna give each of those one people a little visa card, and they can only SP. Send it on that person that they meet for something that person needs I'm in and help help. Yeah. So we're going to try we're going to try this experiment because I believe that I wanna see what their place that people. That are listening donate to this thing. Skid row carnival, love dot org. Skid row carnival is good row carnival of love dot org. Okay. Cool. And we're gonna see what happens if these these hundred people go to the carnival with an open, heart and open mind to make a friend and to stand touch with that person for a year, and how many of those people can get off the street. So we don't know what's going to happen. But that's a scalable thing that I believe we can take anywhere. And that's like, oh, that's how change really happens. Okay. Now, I want I want to chat with you. 'cause you're so awesomely open about it in a way that I have been not as open. About it, which is the behind faith. Yeah. You are amazing. My thing, especially being someone who writes music. I just never want anyone to ever think that I'm trying to push something on them. Super freaked out and sensitive about it. Because anytime you hear any music, and then you hear like, oh, that's like a faith thing to pay thing. Your head goes like, oh, they're on the team. I'm not on the team. And so I've watched you be so open and Ernie fear about being open with your faith. I think I grew up with fear because I was always the only behi-. So I was the minority like grew up in a really born again Christian town, Oregon, and I remember like coming home crying because the kids were like you're gonna burn in. Hell do you realize you're gonna burn in hell? Like, Justin like, we love you. You're really guy. But we don't want you to burn in. Hell he's real things that you know, that you'd go to sleep like thinking there was something wrong with you. Because of the faith that you followed and. It was it was a beautiful thing for me to this day. I've never had a drink alcohol. And if we're not for the faith that definitely wouldn't be the case. Brief explanation of what the by faith faith, is the is the most recent of the world religions, essentially, we believe that God is an unknowable essence is not some guy in this guy with a beard. He is exalted. She it is exalted beyond human, comprehension. We're finite beings. So we cannot ever comprehend the infinite we could never comprehend something that is like big enough to create the universe because we don't even know how big the universes. And this basically the bible tells us that we're all one like the foundation of every religion in the history of the world is love. And from the beginning of time got us different. Teachers to help us like nudge us along as we keep forgetting purpose to get us to a place of unity and to finally get us to love each other. And that's really all the faith is it's all about service to mankind and love it's the root of why do everything that I do. And I think the reason I've been so comfortable talking about it. It's because I realized that if it were not for that faith that grounds me I would be such a mess, and none of this would exist. None of this would exist. My exploration of what happens when we die the masculinity like truly quality women and men like my work and why I'm trying to be of service. Like, it's been the thing that has grounded me when nothing else can. Because look dude, I got a big, oh I've like just like everybody else. Like, I'm I'm very. Animalistic and nature. I'm like. I'm trying my best to be quick to listen and slow to anger, but my past has always been like quick to anger, and then apologizing after I say something that I shouldn't have said, and, you know, like, even something as simple as do behind saying us words mildest milk that to me that little tiny thing goes. Oh, okay. I can get that grasp that, you know, to see no man is friend to see no ministry injures, but to see his friends like these little things like a tool kit for me. And it's why I think I've even had any success. So for me to not talk about it. Would you like to not talk about my wife, totally? But that said, I'm not a musician. Little bit different for me that different. It's it's really like I think we live in a time where everybody's just nervous to have these conversations scared. I'd made this whole fucking podcast. Like force myself and people that I love, and I'm so interested in to be like, okay. There's a lot of really interesting things about being alive that none of us talk about why not. But that's that's so you're doing the exact same thing which was earlier, which is you're creating something. So that you can become better. So that you can like dive in and become better. I think that's what it's all about. It's also really scary time in general to talk about anything. Yeah. Yeah. Like, if you think about it's like, a scary time to have an opinion about anything because there is somebody somewhere with keyboard, courage. That's going to tell you, you're an idiot. Yeah. It's just it's just the world that we're living in, and I think that it's important to be brave and to have an opinion into talk about things. But to do it in a way that is unifying and tissue at your mouth. When it's not like, it, doesn't, you know. There's no I don't need to say something for the sake of saying it, if there's an issue that needs to be said, then of course, I need to say or if there's some burning thing in my good, but I don't wanna ever just talk for the sake of talking to express something for the sake of expressing something. There's so many more. There's so many amazing eloquent people out there that can do that. I don't need to for me the faith is I'm just grateful for it. You know, it's saved my life in so many different ways. And so that's why that's why talk about awesome. Okay. Said use these questions that I hit everybody with her my favorite. What is the most spiritual experience you've ever had get weird? I think there's a couple of them. I think one of them was watching my daughter born. And was probably it. And what was interesting is. Another one was definitely watching somebody pass. And every lies the same thing. Because when my daughter was born, and she came through, and I was the first person to hold her pray for her and touch her. I realized in that moment that that was not the last time. I was going to do that. And that was the most spiritual experience, I think in my life because one day when I'm gone and she's coming through wherever she's going. I'm going to be right there doing. Ooh, that's cool. That's really good. Everyone got really quiet. Good. Money. Tell me what. What's awesome about money? And what's the worst about money? What's awesome about money? Is that it allows you? To if you use it correctly. It allows you to impact a lot of people and allows you to affect and make a difference in a bigger way. It allows you to amplify anything good that you were trying to do before you had money, and it gives you resources. To to like truly make to truly make a difference. It makes things slightly easier. And at the same time, it makes things much harder. What's bad about it? What's bad about? It is that I think it is. It is one of the greatest tests that. We could ever have in life because it's meaningless. But yet it's everything at the same time. It's a necessary thing, but yet it's absolutely meaningless. And all you have to do is look through history to see that every single king and ruler Sultan, every billionaire they wind up being buried right next to somebody that had nothing, and we spend our lives accumulating and trying so hard to make money. And we can't take it with us, even though some Egypt. Do have been buried with their treasures can't use it wherever we're going, even if it's my version or the black version, right? And I think that it is the thing that that can lead literally to the downfall of civilization. It can lead to materialism itself is the opposite of spirituality. And I think that our lives were here to figure out how we can go from our lower nature to our higher nature and money inherently like there's something about it that just drops into your lower nature, this feeling of oh, I need it. Or what if it goes away or am I going to be okay without it? Or all of these things are not real. It's like the vain imaginings. It's what I talked about like the Mirage. It's literally Mirage and all it does is it just amplifies what's already there. So like if you're a selfless person without money, God willing, you'll be a selfless person with money. But yeah, it's a big test. What's the biggest myth that? You've had to overcome about yourself. You like a core. Belief about yourself that you've been able to shift. Yes. For these texting like Yosemite questions before. Semi himself thing. I was like what are you going to do? The biggest myth of had to overcome about myself. Probably that I've worthy of being loved for who. I am. And then I spent so long growing up in these places just feeling like I had to change that. I wasn't okay. As me. And I just didn't know if I'd ever really find somebody that loved me for just like the mess that I am like, and I found my wife does. Yeah. And and I think that like I'm still trying to figure out how that's even happened and how that's possible. And even today we were driving over here. I was like thank you for coming to this like infrared energy wanting to be here because we live together, and we're married, and I'm gonna go talk for an. And and I don't know. I think I think like being worthy of being truly loved having like the like the shitty. Parts of myself loves that's awesome. Can be anything. Give me one thing you love and one thing you hate can be like deep or silly. Or whatever you want one thing you love like you love one thing. You hate. I. I mean, there's so many things that I love this is a random thing that just popped. I love moments when two people are in conversation or something happens and like like a truth bomb is dropped. And then the hair stick up on my. I love moments where you're you're you're you're going deep enough that your body reacts to like, whatever it is that you're talking about and your eyes start to water and you're like, yeah, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be right now. That's true. I love those kind of omens as it happens to me, right? One thing. I hate. Yeah. I hate when people get so mad when they're driving. Because I don't like I just like I hate when I'm trying a hate one. I'm like trying to like get turned into the lane and someone sees me, and they just don't let me in. And then I look over and I'm like, and they they know that I'm looking at them, and they just on purpose pretend like I don't I'm not exist. And then they just drive by. And there's that really awkward moment when you pull up to them because you're eventually going to meet them anyways. And then I'm gonna person that likes to look over. You know, like, I just don't get it. Why spread that like that's that? I hate that. I just don't hate road rage. Not that big of a deal. It's not going to do. I think I've even said on my biggest hate is. When because I'm at a lot of mini marts. During is when I looked them in the eye, and I'm like, can I use your bathroom like we don't have one. You definitely have one. This is so messed up and happens me a lot. So I hate that. Okay. Finally, why are we here? Why are we here? We are here. To generation by generation. Improve. On ourselves each other to create like an ever advancing civilization that can one day live in peace. And so there are kids or grandkids or a great grandkids can live in a world where they don't have to worry about. Food, insecurity or. Plastic filling up the ocean or politics and hate, and you know. People being killed just because of their skin color, or there isn't a part of the world where people have less and their famines. So that we can one day passed down a civilization that takes care of each other. And I think that the only way that can happen is those of us that are alive right now. Wake up and realize that like our purpose here is to love on our purpose. Here is to like raise kids that see unity and that despite their differences love each other. And that's a pretty big task. But like what more fruitful like what more fruitful thing to leave behind than like a generation that understands that pieces the goal. Good, dude. Right. I love you so much. Asian like this such a great great time. Thank you. Everybody for coming guys. So yeah, we do if anybody has any questions, please we're going to set this up right here. And you can I guess because I don't know yet. You can just call up and ask it, and if you do we have these weedays mugs. So for every person that ask the question, you will get a good parts podcast mug. Can I take one home to get into? Does anybody question? Please come on up. Sean hill. Up. So what actually been wanna ask you both for a while this? I've known you guys for years. The thing is you both don't like compliments, right? Is there anything? Like so weird with someone compliments you or like the worthiness, right? You talked about early that was beautiful. So is there anything that you would recommend people on how to accept those things better or anything that works for you that you let it resonate more or those moments? Like, you know, what I want to do my best to receive that? So curious Levy. Go. I this just happened on tour. I encourage everyone to do this before every show. I have a backup singer whose father was a preacher. And usually he huddles us up and gives us this awesome. Like pep talk. Getting ready to go to show and this tour specifically he made each one of us sitting in a chair, and then the other six band members would do what you're talking about. They would say look you in the eye, and they'd be like, these are the things that I see about you that I love about you that I really appreciate about you. And it was so hard to sit there. Like, again, my mind is like there shouldn't be nothing wrong with this. Why can't accept love that messed up that? I can't just basically someone's going. I love you. And I'm going like. But I don't have any advice of how to do it. All I know is that it is worth the battle to to fight through it. Because what's the sweet about is the next day then someone else's in the chair? And the only thing I wanna do is tell them how sweet they are. And how much I love them and tell them how they I appreciate them. All they do for me. And make sure that they understood understand that they're seen in their heard. So I got nothing as far as like how to do it. But you must force yourself to do it. What do you got? I think yeah, I've always been really bad at accepting compliments, but really gonna giving them yet. And by the way, that Sean hill who's an amazing spoken-word as great big out. So I don't get that minimum. Yeah. I think that I think it's important that we figure out how to accept compliments, but I think it's almost more important that we just make sure that we also give them. I don't know. I don't know if as human beings we'll ever get to a place where we just believe everything good about ourselves. And I don't necessarily even know if that's a good thing. I can tell you right now, adding Instagram and having my DM's possibly open if I believed the thousands of positive things people said about me, I would you couldn't fit my head in this room. Yeah. Like, you just couldn't. And so I think there's a beautiful thing about also just saying, thank you. But I don't know if that's true that might be your perception. Now, it's it's also not good. When you don't believe anything good about yourself. But I think that there's a balance I think that this is a man girl finger now men women thing human human thing. I think it's a human thing. I don't know if I know anybody that believes every good thing. And you know, we're all just trying to figure it out. But I do wish I was a little bit better. Like, you know, just taking it in for like more than five seconds because it just goes in one ear and out the other, and then, but if you pin me down, and you say those things. But we do that too. We do that every year for like birthdays and things like for, you know, my wife's blast birthday on our friends. Like, we just everybody surrounding say all the things about that idea. You all do that. It's amazing deal with somebody else have questions tech somebody that you have right here. How you doing? I actually work in politics, and where generally progressive organizations, so we are about kind of like spreading love and equality and making sure that people have the rights that they deserve. But like you're saying there is just so much hate in the world. Sometimes so how do you recommend bridging that divide? How do you show people that we are all the same? And like you said the color of your skin doesn't matter in that. Whether you're from one part of the world or another that we all deserve healthcare and to be healthy and happy and how the family who loves us. I have. Fortunately, don't think you could ever be solved by politics because politics are by nature divisive. Even though they're supposed to be unifying, and if you look at our current political system. And even if you look at the last election it it's just so clear that we're moving farther apart. Until we can start to see each other as friends and his humans and his brothers and sisters and still we until we can start to like, you know. See a mother who can't afford to take care of her children. And instead of just watching that on the news call and do something about it until we until we can actually like, feel empathy right? Then you could we could we could have all the female presidents in black presidents, and all Latino presidents and everything that we want. You're always going to have people on opposite sides that like ideologically don't agree with each other. And the only way that divide can ever like like continue to be shortened, his if people listen to each other, and no one's listening. Nobody's it's impossible right to both speak and listen at the same time that's an do behind quote. And everybody's speaking everyone's waiting for their chance to speak while the other person's speaking, and so nobody's listening, and until you get people together and realize that like, wait, we're the same. Whether someone has money or doesn't, and that's another thing about money is money is so directly related to politics right now. I think half of it is just about money like because we're so we're all attached to it or we're not attached to it, or it's just like there's plenty of money to go around if we just all wake up and realize that we're brothers and sisters, and we're humans, and so that's my big thing is like listening. You know, that's why I don't ever talk about politics. I don't come out with a political viewpoint. I don't come out and talk about endorsing parties. I don't do any of that. Because I think it's core. No matter how progressive somebody is or how much I agree. There's going to be a whole group of people that don't, and I always want to be able to talk to both sides because the things that we're talking about right now or not political they're human. They're just human feminism masculinity. All these things political. There's human we all we all need to be open. And I don't know. I I think it comes down to like creating songs like Andy creates the good the good parts or shows like I'm working on her television and film like trying to find. As to bridge the gap in show that we're all the same those types of things or super helpful. I salute anyone in any field that is tempting to bring white. So whatever that means to you like keep pushing any area. I think that. The quote is coming to my head is the essence of faith is Eunice of words and abundance of deeds. So I think it's just a lot about just like in your sphere of influence. How can you bring as much light as you possibly can? And as one more tiny thing, it's also necessary. Right. And like politics are necessary. Like, Emily on the way here. We're talking about how God like what about all the moms that don't have any help. Like, she was just talking about all the moms in the world that like have no help here. We are. We have some money, and we have an anti. But what about all the moms that don't like all the people that don't have health care childcare and Sweden as an example where she's from? There's all these like, they pay for you to have daycare all these things there's politics there, unfortunately. So it's a necessary evil, so but at the same time we have to figure out like how to how to make that not like just a party, right? It's gotta be universal. Like, we all have to realize like, you know, doesn't matter what our core beliefs are like we can sit here and realize we're both human. Great question much. We got a couple more. Yeah. We got. With the mugs. So much this conversation has I feel fed today. So thank you. Oh, so I'm a mom if two little boys and through both of you work. It comes across so clear that your hearts are just so strong and open and some wondering as you think back your own mother's specifically there anything that sticks out to you that they did that. Oh shit nourish. Oh, yeah. And his mom. No. No. No. No. No. No, no. This is all you. Your question is like, what am I what am I mom do? She's most of his albums. Yeah. My mother. She was like really into. It's funny because I was I was with my daughter this morning, right? She wakes up Matt early. So I was whether from like six to nine AM, and I was thinking we put on like some stupid kids show. We're watching it. And I'm going like, this isn't the best use of my time with you turn it off and start thinking like, okay. It's my job to like help pull out the weeds of you. And make sure that you are someone that's fantastic. And my mom was just really good at. Fostering, these this side of myself. I remember hearing her like she was always make sure that I was going to some spiritual retreat or that. There's a lot of thought and planning going into how my heart was at all times. Right. And I know how lucky that is a lot of times. That's not the case. And I always think with my career with anything I've ever done my mom built this like invisible city where other people will do. Physically they'll put brick by brick and make something that everyone else can see which is like a huge building some sort of architecture. My mom's spent tireless hours making me. So she didn't amazing job. Thank you. So wherever she is in the next place. And I carry myself knowing like, oh my God. I'm her building. I better like show up. You know? You know? You got a pretty mama's amazing, dude. And she anything about your mom's. It's so clear. She's still building that city like with you. You can see it like and like clearing out like other crappy houses around. You're like you're building you're invisible city, and she's just like no one's ugly. I don't want that one. They're pretty good, protect my son. I know she's doing that. She helped me and my Ted talk to straight up talk to your mom before my time. I was like oh my God. Please my mom was my mom is a spiritual warrior is. Well. On like, my childhood can be best described. My mom would tell me this straight up. She would say, okay, Justin. All your friends. They're on like eight lane highways like they can just like go from one lane to the other. It's all good. Like, they'll be fine. They can break the rules or they can do drugs or whatever they want, and there's like, no consequences, and it's great. They're lives are great. But you my son. You're on a two lane highway and there's traffic coming in the other direction. And when you decide to go off, you can if you want, but you have more responsibility because you know, your purpose. You know, why you're here. So you can go off. But you know, there's other cars coming, and you might crash, but just know when you crash that that's learning experience for you to get you back on your path, which you know, right? Why the hell would you? Tell me like twelve year old. There are thirteen year old or a fourteen year old then like every every time in my life. When all my friends were out drinking or partying or toilet papering people's houses, if I ever tried to do anything, I would get caught like the first day. I got my driver's license. Like just speeding and like going crazy like turn. It was an undercover cop behind me the entire time. Like, it's just been my entire life. Every time. I just wanted to be like the other kids. There was just like a spiritual thing that always like kept me on path. And I'm so grateful, although I was resentful for many years for that. Because that was like no mom now, I'm creating that for myself. She always was there to remind me of my potential as a spiritual human being which is something that is. So rare today like not about like, my my potential to be a great artist or a soccer player all the things that I was like materially interested in. She was there to remind me of Mike, my spiritual capacity. Our moms were very similar in that way, and visible city super grateful for that. Because it's still in the back of my head. It's still there and everything that I do. And if we're not for my mom who my first educator who taught me my faith. There's no chance I'd be sitting here with you. Requestioned got through it. Yes. I. Say it is very clear that you guys are. Both powerhouse givers. A big part of who you are is giving giving giving and I want to challenge you just a little bit Abe neighbor Rene round who I'm a big fan of great. Says. We shooting. I'm gonna blow. It have been practicing it over there. Okay. Intil we can receive with an open heart never truly giving with an open heart when we attached judgment to receiving help we knowingly unknowingly attach judgment to giving help. So I want to challenge you guys to first of all you believe that and second of all can you give an example of time that you had to get out of yourself and your pride especially where you're in a position where you can be givers all the time and accept help. Even though it challenged you. You think at the time. Yeah. So version, I mean, I think talked about one I mean just with Andy there were two times already. I think on this guys. I've talked about accepting the help. When he when I accepted, his when I when I cashed that five hundred dollar check that he gave me when I had nothing that was that was a big moment. 'cause I was like, you know. You know, because I had had I remember there was a time. When I even in my early twenties when I experienced success that I could have helped everybody, and then I did that's probably why my money went so fast. But accepting that help was huge. And then again the second time when I called him. And I was I'll never forget like when this girl had broken up with me. And which is kind of ridiculous now like it was just, you know. You know, he came over. And I remember he was crying because he just knew how heartbroken I was. And then it was like come sleep on my couch, and she's being in that position. And being so vulnerable knowing you have nowhere to live, and you don't even have the money to put like to have a down payment on an apartment. So like I was legit homeless. Save it for my friend. Andy grammer. Who also wasn't like a pretty crappy apartment. Like that was back when Andy was microwaving tuna fish. Which Asia he doesn't do that anymore. It doesn't move on. Okay. Okay. Okay. So. Yeah. So there's been so many times actually that I've accepted help when I've needed it. And I think that's another journey in masculinity as men being okay with accepting help. But I will say like Bernie Brown's incredible. I just don't know any person that I've never met that is always giving with a pure heart or accepting with pure heart. I don't know if it's physically human like beautiful, quote, and she's amazing. I think it's an amazing thing to aspire to. I just don't know any human being. That's currently like that I've met that is just like that ever one hundred percent pure in anything, and that's one of the beautiful things about being human. I think aspirational, absolutely. We should always attempt to be pure. But I can tell you right now that there's a lot of times when I give or I think I'm being pure, and then I think about it, and I talked myself out of it. And I go on my God that was so selfish. I'm an awful person. Like, I just help that person for me. I should stop doing it altogether. And then that's just dangerous place. The second we start questioning our purity, which I do believe we should do is just it's like a dangerous road. Because then you realize you're never just completely pure giving feels good for a reason God designed it that way for philanthropy feels amazing for a reason. Right. It's a reward that he built in to like a human like a so that we could just remind ourselves like, oh this good. I should do it more. I don't know anybody that's giving like whether it's helping somebody over the holidays or showing up to feed the homeless on skid row or just helping a friend in need that doesn't feel more fulfilled than the person that they gave to but then quickly forgets right and op met here, not one of my business partners, Muslim, he's the first person to tell me that the Arabic word for human in sun. Literally means they who forget, and that's our job here. We forget our human nature all the freaking time. So tying all that back. I don't know anybody that does a perfectly. I love that quote. I love for night Brown. I think she's incredible. She talks about vulnerability. I don't know if I'm ever going to get there. I agree. I agree with quote, I think it's great and trying to think of probably. An area where I've had a really learn how to take. Support or take it in is. Think probably my wife has been able to be so giving to me. And that's a relationship where you have to figure it out you have to learn how to take it. And so I. Is really a giver though. I know what you mean though, like it is it feels more comfortable giving. We've thought we were talking about this the whole time. It's just more comfortable, and you feel better. There's something about receiving either. It's our culture or whatever the perceives it as less. I know once I had a little bit of money, you start doing this thing where you think that you should just treat everybody all the time the food and you slowly realize that. Sometimes that's cool. But a lot of times kind of dick. Because there's like a certain once once it's not about the money. It's about like it can turn into power, and it sometimes giving is not giving. So you have to be really careful and that sometimes they're just accept someone else. Paying for the check something as small as that is actually sweet thing and important. That was profound as hoping it'd be but sewer Brown. But I I appreciate that. That's great two more questions. Yes. You always try to buy dinner with me what we always fight over it. It's like a sweet thing. And like the dinner thing is start. Sweet. You're like, oh, my pay for pay for it. And then like slow like ego ego. I will never forget I will never forget when he first like kind of had a big he took he took me in our other one of our other best friends. Adam was a roommate and he took us to like lobsters and steak, and we absolutely let him that was good those. Hello. Touched on a little bit of what I wanted to ask you just now when you said ego, I wanted to ask you if you have any tools that you use to connect to your intuitions, you can distinguish. You're doing the right thing. That's really the best for you in the best for maybe the greater versus like when you're doing something out of ego. And as such really good that is such a good question. Got it. Okay. There's a really cool behind quote that. I that is like the moat. The you say tool, I think of it like a tool because I think right now with so much of our lives on social media so much is in comparison living in a state of comparison that you never get to turn off. Like, it's a. Right. When you wake up your constantly comparing there's really cool behi-, quote that says I'm gonna put your it says no that was certainty the hardware in the least remnant of envy yet. Lingers will never attain my ever lasting dominion. And that basically is like remnant like you've already tried to scoop it all out and there's a little bit leftover even that's there. Then you're not on your path and from a very young age when I heard that it's been like a failsafe for me that try to use consistently. Once I start comparing myself to somebody else that comes up. That's not right. That's not in my purpose. That's not the way it was to be that has actually been very helpful for other people. It's not that helpful. But for me that quote specifically like cool. I go back to that a lot even throughout the day when I find that. I'm like starting to lose. I think there's this idea that a gun went off. The exact same time for all of us. And we started running a race. When is the most ridiculous idea ever? So to me my answer that is like comparison is the thief of joy. And anytime you find yourself doing that try to create a failsafe switching you goes. Like, I'm doing that thing where like compare myself to everybody else stop. Comparison is joy is like the perfect quote there. And then in terms of intuition and ego. I can tell you that. That's like one of the great questions in life. I don't know. That's something that any of us will ever get to truly answer. I mean, look, I'm sure there's a bunch of people on social media right now that have that answer. Like, all the gurus and all the that just can tell you. You know, all the different things about yourself that you can fix if you were to do this. I I don't know if we'll ever quite figured out. I think that that's kind of one of the journeys of life is can you start to learn the difference between a decision made of love and a decision made out of fear, and how calls ego that evil whispering one. It's really quiet, and that's just spring in your ear all the time. And it's like skating you to second guess things. And if you don't listen closely, you can't tell the difference between that and your intuition. So you don't know. And that's a really if you think about like just if you were to design life like video game, right? Like, what a crazy obstacle to not know if the information you're getting comes from like, your purity, and your intuition comes from your ego. And for me, that's where comes in which I think is like a protection even in a little moment like a little tiny prayer. Like, what am I doing? Which way should I go is this right is not right. What I've also found is that if I think it's intuition, but it's really ego fear. It's very quickly shown to me which one it is that wall shows up out of nowhere, and you hit it at one hundred miles an hour. And then you learn and that's like the beautiful thing about life. I've experienced that b-actor the other quote, I've experienced that inservice like why am I doing this right now doing this for me? Or is it for why am I giving? Wait, am I taking care? It's an every decision we make in marriage like so much of marriage is about making quieting the ego and quieting the whispering one in like showing up and being open and trusting intuition and being and it's just like the beauty beautifully about life. And if anybody's got figured out like God, that's amazing. But but I think that's that's a muscle. I can see us working on our entire lives. The question. Yes. Tell me. So I moved to Los Angeles about a year ago. So it's the most superficial city in the US, right? Sure. Moved here for graduate school. I I call it. So I I moved to superficial city to learn how to have deep personal conversations with people YouTube seem like really deep personal people. Right. Justin. You said not real. Deal with it here like and this goes for anyone how do you for those listening to this podcast? Probably really appreciate deep conversations. How do you deal with the superficial of LA of everyday life? Great question. Honestly, I think that everyone has. Weird answer. Everybody's got a grandma like everybody has something. Sweet to talk about that. We'll go deeper and in the conversation. You can always chase it there. You know, even at like some backstage of like an award show or party where all glam DUP. I find that. Everyone's receptive. When you do take the conversation somewhere else, you know, like one of the things that that I've been asking every woman that I meet. Whether they're fans or just someone in elevator. Or if I'm with someone for a long period of time. I like could you tell me about your dad, I had a daughter, and I wanna know how to be a better, dad key. Tell me some things like your dad. Did they were good every every woman goes like either they ran away. My dad sucks. Or like, my dad was awesome. These are the reasons why. And now now we're like tight now, we're like closer. I think it's a lot on. A city of people is not is not bad. They're just people. First of all, I love you talk to people in elevators because I always try to do that. And it's so awkward I challenge. Everybody in this room. Everyone listening to try to talk to somebody elevator. I hey, how's it going? Just that awkward thing. And it's even. Just can't believe you ask him in elevators about their debt. I think it's so cool. One of the things I love the most any always been somebody who's just constantly searching for truth, and all the strangest places, I love it. It's just the coolest. I think that I love LA, and I love superficial places. Because again, it's none of it's real. So I personally take a lot of satisfaction of trying to help people. Remember, why they're even here in the first place or why they moved, and I think that you have an opportunity in a superficial place to like bring so much depth than how people remember and what greater gift than like, helping people. Remember, that's why he does what he does. Like, you're sitting in LA having very deep day. Surrounded by a lot of people here that are into it. So. Yes, it's superficial. But I think like also so many amazing people here like draw like the shininess of LA brings artists, and I don't know. There's I mean poets raw like we're all like bleeding hearts that come here. And then we get lost chasing this like the money in the superficiality in the fame and all these things. But at our core, we're all kids with dream. Yeah. And I think that's what I love about LA is like, you know, if you just go a little bit deeper, you find that we're all the same also say one thing, which is maybe place to end is if you are brave enough to vocalise that you would like to have deeper conversations. I think you'll find that a lot of people will show up at our house. We were roommates. He started something called the spiritual talk, and it was basically kind of like this and just like come hang out. We'll read quotes from different religions and will pray together. And we'll go into these topics that don't get brought up enough and everybody so many people came. It was amazing game. We did it every Sunday every Sunday for years at one point. There was like one hundred twenty people in our living room every Sunday. And you just saw that everybody's craving the same thing. And if you can look like now that you just moved here if you can look at the city or any city of wherever you are listening to this any city, you go to in the world, any group of people, you go to doesn't matter. They're all the same. We all have hopes and dreams, and parents and grandma's and wants and needs none of us feel like we're enough. And we all feel like we suck. And like no one thinks they really look that good when they look in the mirror, and we're all just trying to figure this out. And we're all like learning. How to be the best people we can be. And then there's nothing intimidating about it. Whether you meet a celebrity or person on the street, it's all the same. Thank you all for coming. I had a great time. Thank you. Thank you so much, Justin. I wanna leave you. I don't know. Why was this? This came out when I was thinking of what I was going to be with you about this is my quote for you from me, you're tornado soul and inspiration that no one on this planet is safe from. That's hard to me. Fitting ball of soul milled cross. Everyone's so thank you for being here. And thank you becoming. We'll see. There you have it. Justin, bell Doni, not only obnoxiously looking also like the nicest guy in the entire universe. So I hope you enjoyed the new format is something that's really fun. Just trying the live live audience podcasting. Tell me what you think about it as always, please, please. It's been working whatever you're doing has been working this podcast has been going so freaking well, so please keep sharing it rating it subscribing telling all your friends about it. If you think something cool happen in this episode share with a friend. It means a lot it helps a lot and I love doing this. So thank you so much. I will see you guys next time. I'm actually going to be today. We'll be recording the next next week's one really good. So lookout point. Season. Don't.
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